Ecclestone School of Interview Techniques (click to zoom)

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Ecclestone School of Interview Techniques (click to zoom)

I don't know how the camp divides on this one, but I prefer Hockenheim to Nurburgring, generally speaking. Both are tamed versions of former, flamboyantly ridiculous mega-circuits, but Hockenheim tends to make for more exciting races, despite the Nurburgring having a more interesting layout.

But, here we are at Nurburgring and with all the usual elements in play and host of upgrades up and down the field, we could be in for a good'n. I'm going out on a limb and predicting another Alonso win, for no apparent reason.

This Week In F1

  • Major upgrades at Lotus: Lotus have arrived in Germany with a new-spec driver that they hope will move them up the grid. The totally new pilot, rumoured to have been manufactured in India, will only be used on the number 21 car to evaluate its potential over the troublesome standard component, Jarno Trulli. This new driver, codenamed Cheeky Chandhok, has been in development at the Norfolk HQ for many months now and Mike Gascoyne's crew have finally declared it 'race-ready', having run Chandhok in the wind tunnel for 6 straight weeks without a failure.
  • Webber Free to Race, almost all of the time: After long discussions between Mark Webber and Christian Horner, it has been revealed that Mark Webber is free to go head-to-head with Sebastien Vettel 99% of the time. There was tension at the end of the British GP when the team tried to neutralise Webber as he hunted Vettel down for 2nd place; Webber ignored repeated requests to hold station until Horner himself intervened. But now Webber has made the situation clear: 'We are still free to race most of the time,' he said. '99% of the time we'll be going at it, tooth and nail; and only in the 2 hour period during a race will I have to give way to Seb.'
  • Ferrari Ignoring the Standings: Ferrari have had a difficult first half to the year, despite winning in Silverstone last time out. Stefano Domenicali has said he would 'give a negative score to Ferrari' based on their performance so far, so the team must be glad Stefano isn't in charge of the Sporting Directives. To avoid depression, Ferrari have admitted they don't look at the official standings, in which they have only half the points of Red Bull. Instead, they have applied a filter to all their work computers that replaces any F1 news with a picture of a Lolcat to keep morale high.

This Time Last Year

  • Hamilton Baffled by Small Title Lead: Lewis Hamilton leads Jenson Button in the championship by 12 points - a fact he thinks is 'strange'. 'I've had four solid races - two wins and two second places - and yet I'm only 12 points ahead,' he said. Perhaps he wouldn't be so disappointed if he'd known that 12 months later after one win and two second places he'd be fourth, 95 points behind the leader.
  • Alonso - German GP critical: In the build up to the German Grand Prix, Fernando Alonso has said that picking up points in the German and Hungarian races is 'crucial to stay in the race for the title ... I've sense a great deal of determination among the people at Maranello: we all want to return to winning as soon as possible.'
    Indeed.

This Time Next Year

  • Ecclestone 'been dead for years': Shock passed through the paddock this week as it was revealed that Bernie Ecclestone died several years ago. The diagnosis was administrated by a mysterious new Doctor who revealed that Ecclestone's corpse is merely wandering aimlessly, muttering repeated echoes of his final thoughts: 'FOTA is about to implode... Silverstone is rubbish... Give me more money...'. The Doctor said he could silence Ecclestone and lay him to rest, but FOTA and the FIA World Council agreed unanimously to leave him as he is.

  • Major revamp for Autosport Magazine: Following an extremely positive test run to the mid-life-crisis market, Autosport have announced that they will be renamed 'Lotusport' from the next issue onwards. 'We feel now is the time to give the readers something they really want,' said new Editor-in-Chief, Danny Bahar. 'The Lotus brand resonated with the Autosport reader as a symbol of true racing engineering so we have given our publication a fresh, Lotusey new perspective.'


    Articles will be written in gold text on black, Team Lotus will be referred to as Team Caterham and all race standings will be calculated from the highest-finishing Lotus (e.g. If Alonso wins and Kubica comes forth, Alonso will be classified as -3rd).


230 responses

  • Mr C22/07/2011 at 23:10

    hehehehe!! great daily :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/07/2011 at 23:28

    Is it me or does Paul Hembrey kind look like the singer from Elbow?

  • startledbunny22/07/2011 at 23:39

    Is it me or does Paul Hembrey kind look like the singer from Elbow?

    i can see it.

    also a similarity to mr gervais

  • Sidepodcast Update22/07/2011 at 23:45
  • Leigh O'Gorman22/07/2011 at 23:52

    also a similarity to mr gervais

    that too. you could also say guy harvey looks like mr gervais too !!

  • startledbunny22/07/2011 at 23:56

    that too. you could also say guy harvey looks like mr gervais too !!

    true, only one of them likes to do a weird dance, and the other likes to whack a piece of metal

    http://youtu.be/72Ho9I205Gg

    paul is definitely more like guy

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 04:32

    Gettings Sidepodcastland......

    My car is in the shop so I finally have a chance to blog about the 12 films that I have never seen before on my blogsite

    http://jdkallen.wordpress.com/

    so far i have reviewed The Tuskegee Airmen and Passchendaele. hopefully by this time tomorrow I will have my reviews for The Eagle Has Landed and The Chinese Connection Connection.

    Well, night everyone!

  • Sidepodcast Update23/07/2011 at 05:45
  • Matt G23/07/2011 at 06:16

    Morning Podders

    Defiantly looks like Guy Garvey, especially from offset front angle.

    Getting more excited to see Elbow next week now :D

  • Matt G23/07/2011 at 06:22

    http://youtu.be/72Ho9I205Gg

    Thats an awesome vid by the way, 2nd best, after the Abbey Rd performances: (warning: contains graphic metal pole whacking...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNIXPQoz0s0

  • Matt G23/07/2011 at 06:26

    hehehehe!! great daily :)

    Agreed, Nice work Stuart, lots of lol's

  • Marti23/07/2011 at 07:54

    Good morning world ;)

  • Alex Andronov23/07/2011 at 08:35

    Good morning world ;)

    Good morning Marti

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 08:49

    Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/live-germany-2011-free-practice-3

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 08:55

    Goodness, Blade Runner is on the iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00plcmt/Blade_Runner/

  • Amy23/07/2011 at 08:57

    Goodness, Blade Runner is on the iPlayer: www.bbc.co.uk/ipl…cmt/Blade_Runner/

    that definitely falls into 'ruined by analysing the life out of it in high school English classes' camp for me :D

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 08:58

    that definitely falls into 'ruined by analysing the life out of it in high school English classes' camp for me :D

    Aww. I just didn't like it :)

  • Amy23/07/2011 at 08:58

    Aww. I just didn't like it :)

    I probably wouldn't have liked it even if I hadn't studied it, not my type of film at all. But studying it made it even worse!

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 10:14

    Results ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/germany-2011-free-practice-3-results

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 10:35

    Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/live-germany-2011-qualifying

  • Stuart Taylor23/07/2011 at 11:27

    Today's comic is happening RIGHT NOW on BBC (12:27)

  • Sidepodcast Update23/07/2011 at 11:45
  • Alex Andronov23/07/2011 at 13:30

    Interesting article on the BBC homepage about what ever happened to podcasts: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/9545533.stm

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 13:31

    Interesting article on the BBC homepage about what ever happened to podcasts: news.bbc.co.uk/1/…nline/9545533.stm

    ooh, must read. before i do, i'll guess at:

    - lack of innovation

    - no-one truly "owned" them

    - no business model

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 13:34

    ooh, must read. before i do, i'll guess at:

    We were just having that conversation yesterday. BBC reads our minds, I swear.

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 13:35

    We were just having that conversation yesterday. BBC reads our minds, I swear.

    :)

    article doesn't conclude very much though. just sort of stops.

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 13:36

    article doesn't conclude very much though. just sort of stops.

    Oh I hate it when that happens. I'm always starting something and

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 13:36

    Oh I hate it when that happens. I'm always starting something and

    :)

  • Janna23/07/2011 at 13:37

    We were just having that conversation yesterday. BBC reads our minds, I swear.

    There's an interesting Radio Academy podcast about podcasting. Just talking to a few people about what/why they do it here: http://www.radioacademy.org/listen/podcasts/

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 13:37

    Results ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/germany-2011-qualifying-results

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 13:38

    Have to head off and think of what birthday present I could possibly buy my mum for christmas so I'll see you guys later.

    Wonder if she'll like a preorder of F1 2011... maybe not

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 13:38

    Have to head off and think of what birthday present I could possibly buy my mum for christmas so I'll see you guys later.

    Wonder if she'll like a preorder of F1 2011... maybe not

    I obviously mean her birthday, not christmas. #pressureofshopping

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 13:38

    I obviously mean her birthday, not christmas. #pressureofshopping

    Unless she is baby jesus.

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 13:39

    Unless she is baby jesus.

    Can't say I've looked at our family tree but I have a feeling their may be a lack of connection :)

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 13:40

    Lou, I tried to open the video you sent me but I get the message that says 'the video is not in a format that Quicktime understands'. It's an mpeg file. Any ideas how I can play it, anyone?

  • Janna23/07/2011 at 13:43

    Lou, I tried to open the video you sent me but I get the message that says 'the video is not in a format that Quicktime understands'. It's an mpeg file. Any ideas how I can play it, anyone?

    Would this help? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

  • Bassano23/07/2011 at 13:45

    Would this help? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

    VLC plays everything, it's fab

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 13:46

    Thanks, Janna and Bassano. :)

  • lou23/07/2011 at 13:52

    Lou, I tried to open the video you sent me but I get the message that says 'the video is not in a format that Quicktime understands'. It's an mpeg file. Any ideas how I can play it, anyone?

    i play videos through VLC, sorry forgot to mention that.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 13:56

    i play videos through VLC, sorry forgot to mention that.

    It all works great now, thank you comments. :)

  • lou23/07/2011 at 13:59

    It all works great now, thank you comments. :)

    yaayy! enjoy! :)

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 14:18

    Have to head off and think of what birthday present I could possibly buy my mum for christmas so I'll see you guys later.

    Wonder if she'll like a preorder of F1 2011... maybe not

    I obviously mean her birthday, not christmas. #pressureofshopping

    ...And here by law of averages, I concluded that Lukeh's mother suceeded in meeting that 1 in 365.25 chance of actually being born on December 25th.......

    I always wondered what happens to those poor people who are born on leap years.... Like do they have to wait until everyone else is 64 years old before attempting to learn how to drive if the legasl driving age is 16 ?

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 15:06

    Ping: http://mrschristine.com/2011/07/23/taste-twenty-trial-8-lucozade-sport-energy-gel/

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 15:13

    F1Minute: http://www.f1minute.com/news/mark-webber-takes-pole-position-for-the-german-grand-prix

  • Alison23/07/2011 at 15:15

    I always wondered what happens to those poor people who are born on leap years.... Like do they have to wait until everyone else is 64 years old before attempting to learn how to drive if the legasl driving age is 16 ?

    Poor people? It would be completely awesome to have a leap year birthday!!

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 15:20

    Alison: 23/07/2011 at 16:15:29

    I always wondered what happens to those poor people who are born on leap years.... Like do they have to wait until everyone else is 64 years old before attempting to learn how to drive if the legasl driving age is 16 ?

    Poor people? It would be completely awesome to have a leap year birthday!!

    But then you would have to wait four years before you would get any presents... :(

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 15:21

    Poor people? It would be completely awesome to have a leap year birthday!!

    Less birthdays would be fabulous.

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 15:22

    Hello again! shopping is tiring.

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 15:23

    Hello again! shopping is tiring.

    Did you find something?

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 15:24

    Did you find something?

    I did! I got aa big box of chocolates, some CD's of the 60's my mum loves and some stuff for her nintendo DS that she keeps hinting about and blatently asking for. Also found How I Met your Mother series 2 for £5 (Appropriate really!) so a little treat for myself too.

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 15:26

    Christine: 23/07/2011 at 16:21:15

    Poor people? It would be completely awesome to have a leap year birthday!!

    Less birthdays would be fabulous.

    But then surely you have to wait four times as long as everyone else to get drinking or driving or get out of school and all that....

    and how do you get dates when you look like a 72 year old ? but youy have just reached your 18th birthday ? :P

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 15:36

    Also I tweeted this earlier but it was during qualifying, I'm still really confused by it!

    Earlier in the week I ordered a new microphone to use for microphoney things (eventually my mic I do own did start to work again yesterday but it was utterly awful) and it arrived today cue excitement and cheers from all involved. But when I took it out I noticed it came with a little bag for the microphone...

    http://twitpic.com/5uipzq

    Am I missing something here because the microphone headset is about 2/3 times bigger than the bag!

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 15:40

    Christine: 23/07/2011 at 16:21:15

    Poor people? It would be completely awesome to have a leap year birthday!!

    Less birthdays would be fabulous.

    Getting older is not all that bad when you consider the alternative.... The biggest difference that I have noticed that you start to feel awful during the party instead of the morning after..... :P

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 15:41

    Getting older is not all that bad when you consider the alternative.... The biggest difference that I have noticed that you start to feel awful during the party instead of the morning after..... :P

    Hehe, not really about getting older. Just less bothering birthdays :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 15:43

    Am I missing something here because the microphone headset is about 2/3 times bigger than the bag!

    either a cable bag, or the headset folds up?

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 15:44

    either a cable bag, or the headset folds up?

    Ohhh so they doooo!

    They fold up!! I've never seen that before, that's so cool.

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 15:44

    They fold up!! I've never seen that before, that's so cool.

    :)

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 15:49

    23/07/2011 at 16:41:25

    Getting older is not all that bad when you consider the alternative.... The biggest difference that I have noticed that you start to feel awful during the party instead of the morning after.....

    Hehe, not really about getting older. Just less bothering birthdays

    How is birthdays bothersome ? As Joe rightly pointed out, you are only one day older... It just that no one keeps score and a birthday is used as way to add the 365 to the tally that you were supposed to keep....

    Oh, yeah, Happy Belated Birthday Joe! Keep the Asides coming!

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 15:55

    Hey folks,

    Haven't seen qualifying yet - shall check it out in a while. I'll have a wild guess as to which team are on pole.....

    ;)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 15:56

    IndyCar practice has just started - apparently it's sunny there, but there are still wet patches left over from yesterday

    http://racecontrol.indycar.com/

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 15:58

    Leigh O'Gorman: 23/07/2011 at 16:56:37

    IndyCar practice has just started - apparently it's sunny there, but there are still wet patches left over from yesterday

    http://racecontrol.indycar.com/

    Oh yeah, forgot about "Dead-man-ton....: :P today. Thanks, Leigh....

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 15:59

    Oh yeah, forgot about "Dead-man-ton....: :P today. Thanks, Leigh....

    Hehee..

    Completely new circuit layout (totally different), so maybe it'll be a good race this year

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:03

    On one hand, I wish the series would pull its finger out:

    Curt Cavin - http://www.indystar.com/article/20110723/SPORTS0107/107230343/1052/SPORTS01/IndyCar-shines-more-light-on-rules-violations?source=nletter-sports

    Pressdog was a bit more annoyed (naughty language warning, PDog as angry, but for a reason) - http://pressdog.typepad.com/dogblog/2011/07/none-of-your-business-penalties-are-bullshit-indycar.html

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 16:04

    Leigh O'Gorman: 23/07/2011 at 16:59:20

    Oh yeah, forgot about "Dead-man-ton....: today. Thanks, Leigh....

    Completely new circuit layout (totally different), so maybe it'll be a good race this year

    "Dead-man-ton" has nothing to do with teh indycar track, Leigh, it is just what every Tundralander calls the city that is not native to the place.... My guess is from how easy it is to freeze your a-- off up there....

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:04

    "Dead-man-ton" has nothing to do with teh indycar track, Leigh, it is just what every Tundralander calls the city that is not native to the place....

    Oh OK.

  • Alison23/07/2011 at 16:16

    Ooooh Cars!

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 16:23

    I hope you have all been behaving while I have been fighting with my ISP. Unfortunately it will be a few days yet before they are able to sort whatever problem they have with living in the current century. Even though I have not been around I have been scanning through the comments and spotted some interesting conversations around the time of the shuttle landing on the future of space travel. Dr Kiki did a great podcast on the subject with the people from spacevidcast which I would recommend as it gives a very realistic and positive outlook and lets people know about some of the vehicles being developed by private companies. I will miss the shuttle but it is history.

    http://www.twit.tv/dksh104

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:23

    At last - in car starters may be on next years IndyCar

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:25

    Steven!!!!

    *claps*

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:26

    Dr Kiki did a great podcast on the subject with the people from spacevidcast which I would recommend as it gives a very realistic and positive outlook and lets people know about some of the vehicles being developed by private companies. I will miss the shuttle but it is history.

    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    Good luck with the ISP and their ineptitude.

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 16:31

    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    It is really good. I had no idea for example that one of the private companies is building a mini-shuttle.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:33

    It is really good. I had no idea for example that one of the private companies is building a mini-shuttle.

    I hope there's enough room for all of us.

    *starts doing push ups*

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:34

    *starts doing push ups*

    who am I kidding, I get nervous and claustrophobic in a regular plane.

    I'll have to be in the mission control center on the ground.

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 16:35

    *starts doing push ups*

    I think the size of the cheques you can write will be more important than fitness

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:37

    I think the size of the cheques you can write will be more important than fitness

    Good point. No hope on that front. I have to save now to see if I can manage a move to England by next year...IF immigration will allow me in. Visa rules have changed recently.

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 16:39

    Kai: 23/07/2011 at 17:34:46

    *starts doing push ups*

    who am I kidding, I get nervous and claustrophobic in a regular plane.

    I'll have to be in the mission control center on the ground.

    Another victum er.... I mean ... volunteer - for a ride in you open-cockpit fully aerobatic bi-plane ? < evil grin...>

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:43

    IndyCar practice finished:

    P1: Hinchcliffe

    P2-P5: Franchitti, Power, Dixon, Briscoe

    P6-P10: Viso, Wilson, Castroneves, Kanaan, Meira

    Notable others:

    Sato (12th), Bourdais (16th), Conway (18th), Andretti (19th), Patrick (20th), Tracy (23rd), de Silvestro (26th)

  • Bassano23/07/2011 at 16:44

    Just heard about Amy Winehouse. Very sad

  • Journeyer23/07/2011 at 16:44

    Just heard about Amy Winehouse. Very sad

    WHOA. Very sad - what could have been.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:45

    Just heard about Amy Winehouse. Very sad

    It certainly changes the significance of her "Rehab" song. It makes it more of a cautionary tale to me now.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:45

    Just heard about Amy Winehouse. Very sad

    Just heard. Only 27 - very sad.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:45

    It certainly changes the significance of her "Rehab" song. It makes it more of a cautionary tale to me now.

    I guess it always was.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:46

    A victim of hanger's on

  • Journeyer23/07/2011 at 16:46

    Just heard about Amy Winehouse. Very sad

    It certainly changes the significance of her "Rehab" song. It makes it more of a cautionary tale to me now.

    Very good point there, Kai.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:49

    Very good point there, Kai.

    Hopefully people will see it less as an anthem, is what I mean.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:51

    Hopefully people will see it less as an anthem, is what I mean.

    Not a chance. I'm just waiting for the idiots of the world to attach her to the non-existent "Club 27" legend.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:51

    Not a chance. I'm just waiting for the idiots of the world to attach her to the non-existent "Club 27" legend.

    Not a chance, really? Too bad for humans, then.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:52

    Ughhh...

    @benjaminbutter: Sky News report that, because he is currently on a flight, Amy Winehouse's father is yet to know his daughter has died.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:52

    Not a chance. I'm just waiting for the idiots of the world to attach her to the non-existent "Club 27" legend.

    What is club 27?

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:52

    Not a chance, really? Too bad for humans, then.

    This is how it will be sold and sadly, people will buy it. Another dead star to make money from.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:53

    This is how it will be sold and sadly, people will buy it. Another dead star to make money from.

    I guess I just have more hope for people.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:54

    What is club 27?

    Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Brian Jones, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and others all died aged 27, but the myth has grown to consume artists that died in and around the age of 27.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:54

    Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Brian Jones, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and others all died aged 27, but the myth has grown to consume artists that died in and around the age of 27.

    ah yes, of course.

    Thanks.

  • Journeyer23/07/2011 at 16:55

    Not a chance. I'm just waiting for the idiots of the world to attach her to the non-existent "Club 27" legend.

    It's already happened on Twitter, actually.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 16:55

    It's already happened on Twitter, actually.

    Sad.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 16:56

    I guess I just have more hope for people.

    I generally don't... sadly

  • Sidepodcast Classics23/07/2011 at 17:00

    Enjoy a little something from the sidepodcast.com back catalogue.

    - F1 on the iPad - F1 Racing Magazine

    Originally published 02/04/2011

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:03

    Former F Renault UK driver, Oli Webb, is making his début in the Indy Lights this weekend. Saw this the other day and thoughts I was seeing things.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 17:04

    I generally don't... sadly

    I know it won't get through to most people. I just hope it makes some difference to someone, somewhere and can save someone's life.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 17:11

    @NobleF1 Jon Noble

    Sebastien Buemi excluded from qualifying following fuel irregularity. Story soon

  • Bassano23/07/2011 at 17:11

    Sebastien Buemi excluded from qualifying following fuel irregularity. Story soon

    Noooooooooo

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:11

    @NobleF1 Jon Noble

    Sebastien Buemi excluded from qualifying following fuel irregularity. Story soon

    The last few race weekends have been bad for Buemi. This just adds to the list.

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:12

    @NobleF1 Jon Noble

    Sebastien Buemi excluded from qualifying following fuel irregularity. Story soon

    oooh. been a long time since we've had one of those.

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:13

    a lesson from noble about how to break news on twitter. buxton take note.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:14

    a lesson from noble about how to break news on twitter. buxton take note.

    Why -- what did Buxton do?

    (haven't been on Twitter yet today)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:15

    Why -- what did Buxton do?

    caused a bit of a fuss the other day. has a whole autosport forum thread dedicated to him and everything :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:15

    caused a bit of a fuss the other day. has a whole autosport forum thread dedicated to him and everything :)

    I see. Must have completely missed it.

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:16

    I see. Must have completely missed it.

    a minor thing, he looked a bit silly, noble just showed him how it should be done :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:17

    a minor thing, he looked a bit silly, noble just showed him how it should be done :)

    Oh well - everyone needs to look silly sometime in life

    :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:23

    okay then:

    The stewards, having received a report from the FIA Technical Delegate that the fuel sample taken after Qualifying from Car 18 showed an increase in one given GC Peak Area of an absolute amount greater than 0.1 per cent for the component present at a concentration below 0.8 per cent, and having heard from the FIA Formula One Analytical Chemist and the Team Representatives and examined the fuel test graphs, determine this to be a breach of Article 19.8.3 of the 2011 FIA Formula One Technical Regulations and decide to impose a penalty of exclusion of Car 18 from the results of Qualifying.

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 17:24

    The stewards, having received a report from the FIA Technical Delegate that the fuel sample taken after Qualifying from Car 18 showed an increase in one given GC Peak Area of an absolute amount greater than 0.1 per cent for the component present at a concentration below 0.8 per cent, and having heard from the FIA Formula One Analytical Chemist and the Team Representatives and examined the fuel test graphs, determine this to be a breach of Article 19.8.3 of the 2011 FIA Formula One Technical Regulations and decide to impose a penalty of exclusion of Car 18 from the results of Qualifying.

    I was just about to say that myself

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 17:25

    I was just about to say that myself

    :lol:

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:26

    I was just about to say that myself

    i thought the diffuser argument was hard to follow :)

    more here: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93301

  • Bassano23/07/2011 at 17:27

    GC Peak Area

    Gas chromatograph results, I presume

  • Bassano23/07/2011 at 17:28

    I was just about to say that myself

    Or as Chandok might say: The fuel looked a bit iffy

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:28

    Or as Chandok might say: The fuel looked a bit iffy

    :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:29

    news that i can understand:

    Asian Football Confederation president Mohammed Bin Hammam banned for life by Fifa after being found guilty of bribery.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/9545990.stm

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 17:30

    The stewards, having received a report from the FIA Technical Delegate that the fuel sample taken after Qualifying from Car 18 showed an increase in one given GC Peak Area of an absolute amount greater than 0.1 per cent for the component present at a concentration below 0.8 per cent, and having heard from the FIA Formula One Analytical Chemist and the Team Representatives and examined the fuel test graphs, determine this to be a breach of Article 19.8.3 of the 2011 FIA Formula One Technical Regulations and decide to impose a penalty of exclusion of Car 18 from the results of Qualifying.

    That is badly written but it looks like one of the peaks on the gas chromatograph showed that the fuel had 8 times as much of one of the minor components as it was allowed. There must be some sensible reason for one car in a team to be that far out. I wonder if it is the remnants of whatever they rinse the tank with or something like that

  • Alison23/07/2011 at 17:31

    i thought the diffuser argument was hard to follow :)

    Hehehe chemicals are definitely easier than diffusers!

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 17:31

    Asian Football Confederation president Mohammed Bin Hammam banned for life by Fifa after being found guilty of bribery.

    FIFA banning people for bribery? Normally they promote them for that

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:32

    FIFA banning people for bribery? Normally they promote them for that

    Depends how public they are about it I suppose

    ;)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:43

    awesome. permission to remove said comments?

    You need permission?

  • Alison23/07/2011 at 17:43

    You need permission?

    I think it's polite :P

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:44

    I think it's polite :P

    Oh, fair enough.

    :)

  • Sidepodcast Update23/07/2011 at 17:45
  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:45

    I think it's polite :P

    same.

    wasn't my convo, didn't really overstep any boundaries, thought i'd ask.

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 17:47

    wasn't my convo, didn't really overstep any boundaries, thought i'd ask.

    I wish my happy days would last longer. Not happy days, positive days. Happy Days is a whole other Fonz-related thing.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 17:48

    I wish my happy days would last longer. Not happy days, positive days. Happy Days is a whole other Fonz-related thing.

    AYYYYYYYY!

    I had that t-shirt.

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 17:49

    I had that t-shirt.

    Like this: http://www.80stees.com/products/Happy-Days-Fonz-AAAYYYYY-T-Shirt.asp

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:49

    What's sad is when I bring up the Fonz in conversation at work, there's a whole bunch of people who have no idea who or what I'm talking about

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 17:49

    Go right ahead. You do not not need my permission. its your blog, after all.

    ta.

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 17:50

    What's sad is when I bring up the Fonz in conversation at work, there's a whole bunch of people who have no idea who or what I'm talking about

    Well it is thirty years old.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 17:50

    Like this: www.80stees.com/p…YYYYY-T-Shirt.asp

    hehe

    Well mine was clearly superior because it was dark blue with white lettering and outline of the Fonz.

    :)

  • Stuart Taylor23/07/2011 at 17:51

    Gas chromotography is just a method for separating out all the components of a fluid to check its purity or how much of each part is in the fluid. The "peak area" just refers to the amount of a component in the fluid. To basically, the FIA have said there is more of a certain component in Buemi's fuel than there was in the sample they use to reference it.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 17:51

    Well it is thirty years old.

    oh god. Can I get a leap year birthday, please?

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 17:52

    Well mine was clearly superior because it was dark blue with white lettering and outline of the Fonz.

    That does look a bit like they've just slapped an old sticker on a t-shirt. But the concept is there :)

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 17:53

    That does look a bit like they've just slapped an old sticker on a t-shirt. But the concept is there :)

    (it really wasn't that different. But no one needs to know that. I was 10 or something)

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 17:54

    Christine: 23/07/2011 at 18:50:28

    What's sad is when I bring up the Fonz in conversation at work, there's a whole bunch of people who have no idea who or what I'm talking about

    Well it is thirty years old.

    Whule we are on the subject of "Happy Days", can I say that Pat Morita (Arnold) rules!

    You all remember him as that Japanese Karate teacher in "The Karate Kid" movies...

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 17:54

    Well it is thirty years old.

    Older than that even

  • Bassano23/07/2011 at 17:57

    Older than that even

    Started 37 years ago

    Yeesh

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 18:02

    Gas chromotography is just a method for separating out all the components of a fluid to check its purity or how much of each part is in the fluid. The "peak area" just refers to the amount of a component in the fluid. To basically, the FIA have said there is more of a certain component in Buemi's fuel than there was in the sample they use to reference it.

    any guesses as to why it's in there?

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 18:04

    Started 37 years ago

    I think someone added 20 extra years into history about ten years ago

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 18:05

    I think someone added 20 extra years into history about ten years ago

    It's like Joe said, things should be allowed to be history if you have lived through them and remember them.

    Something like that anyway :)

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 18:07

    It's like Joe said, things should be allowed to be history if you have lived through them and remember them.

    Shouldn't. Kinda changes the sentence. Jeez, I've caught what Mr C has.

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 18:07

    Shouldn't. Kinda changes the sentence. Jeez, I've caught what Mr C has.

    heard that.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 18:08

    I think someone added 20 extra years into history about ten years ago

    I agree.

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 18:09

    any guesses as to why it's in there?

    Odd that it is only one car that is affected. Unless they tell us what the component is it is difficult to say where it came from. Assuming there was 20 litres of fuel in the car for quali 0.8% is 160ml so it is a not just a splash

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 18:11

    It's like Joe said, things should be allowed to be history if you have lived through them and remember them.

    I was having happy memories of John Watson's Silverstone win (1981?) then Mr C said you were not born then and ruined it. :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 18:12

    I was having happy memories of John Watson's Silverstone win (1981?) then Mr C said you were not born then and ruined it. :)

    hehehehehee.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 18:12

    I was having happy memories of John Watson's Silverstone win (1981?) then Mr C said you were not born then and ruined it. :)

    hehe

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 18:12

    Steven Roy: 23/07/2011 at 19:09:55

    any guesses as to why it's in there?

    Odd that it is only one car that is affected. Unless they tell us what the component is it is difficult to say where it came from. Assuming there was 20 litres of fuel in the car for quali 0.8% is 160ml so it is a not just a splash

    Commerically availible "octane-booster" that you add to regualr grade gasoline to jump up its octane level to beyond the ultra grade stuff ? Buemi could use all the help he can get....

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 18:14

    Mr C: 23/07/2011 at 19:12:10

    I was having happy memories of John Watson's Silverstone win (1981?) then Mr C said you were not born then and ruined it.

    hehehehehee.

    Hey, Steven, was Waston's friend Sherlock Holmes in attendence ? :P

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 18:14

    Commerically availible "octane-booster" that you add to regualr grade gasoline to jump up its octane level to beyond the ultra grade stuff ? Buemi could use all the help he can get...

    A wild guess would be that it is a solvent like acetone that they use to rinse fuel pumps, tanks, drums etc and they did not allow it enough time to evaporate.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/07/2011 at 18:15

    Running a little late, but then again I've been busy this week:

    "Alonso Tops First Practice at the Nurburgring - 2011 German GP (Rd 10, FP1, July 22nd)":

    http://t.co/x2vCXm7

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 18:26

    That cupcake was deeee-lish!

    mmm.

  • Nick (@Twiger)23/07/2011 at 18:38

    Odd that it is only one car that is affected. Unless they tell us what the component is it is difficult to say where it came from. Assuming there was 20 litres of fuel in the car for quali 0.8% is 160ml so it is a not just a splash

    Ferrari & shell pushing the boundries to see what they could get away with?

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 18:54

    Ferrari & shell pushing the boundries to see what they could get away with?

    No chance. Anyone with any knowledge of GC would know that such a big error would be spotted immediately. THere is no way this is deliberate

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 18:56

    Another F1Minute: http://www.f1minute.com/news/sebastian-buemi-excluded-from-germany-qualifying-results

  • Bert23/07/2011 at 19:13

    Watching the Beeb pre-quali show... Man... Gotta love Bernie! So, Bernie, your head is in a noose, how do you feel? (BE) I don't know, it will work out. No, it's not in a noose. My neck will prevent it from coming apart.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 19:20

    No chance. Anyone with any knowledge of GC would know that such a big error would be spotted immediately. THere is no way this is deliberate

    Manipe says it was due to a fuel system install not done properly.

    http://www.manipef1.com/news/articles/12468/

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 19:24

    Manipe says it was due to a fuel system install not done properly.

    credit to the stewards for picking up on it ahead of sunday. avoiding a post-race results change in the process.

    now that's what i'm talking about.

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 19:25

    now that's what i'm talking about.

    One day a supermarket is going to pick up that line and Se is going to be their 'face' of the brand. Mark my words!

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 19:25

    *Seb. even

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 19:28

    Manipe says it was due to a fuel system install not done properly.

    So according Manipe's article the error was of more than 0.1% and not 0.7% as I read it. That means an error of 1 ml/litre so if the car had 20 litres of fuel in it the error could have been as little as 20ml which could easily have been done by mistake

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 19:29

    One day a supermarket is going to pick up that line and Se is going to be their 'face' of the brand. Mark my words!

    :)

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 19:30

    Hello Daily, I feel safe to be here now without spoiler potential :)

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 19:30

    Don't let anyone tell you there is a water shortage or that the Earth is the only place there is water

    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/universe20110722.html

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 19:31

    Don't let anyone tell you there is a water shortage or that the Earth is the only place there is water

    The water, equivalent to 140 trillion times all the water in the world's ocean

    O.O

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 19:34

    Don't let anyone tell you there is a water shortage or that the Earth is the only place there is water

    "It's another demonstration that water is pervasive throughout the universe, even at the very earliest times."

    Wow. Learn something new every day.

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 19:35

    Apparently the ALMS race I mentioned in the Q thread is actually happening tomorrow. They are often on a Saturday which confused me.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 19:36

    Apparently the ALMS race I mentioned in the Q thread is actually happening tomorrow. They are often on a Saturday which confused me.

    Quali on ESPN3 now.

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 19:36

    Buemi is out? Boo. Booemi.

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 19:37

    Quali on ESPN3 now.

    I'll skip that I think and finish up the BBC quali show then catch up with Tour de France.

  • Bert23/07/2011 at 19:37

    Buemi is out? Boo. Booemi.

    Out of quali, no? Not excluded from the event. According to Autosport.

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 19:38

    Out of quali, no? Not excluded from the event. According to Autosport.

    Yes that's what I mean

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 19:38

    Wow. Learn something new every day.

    Pluto has a new moon

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14220620

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 19:39

    Steven, this Klaus Graf comment about his crash today in practice reminds me of what you say is a typical racing driver's answer. He didn't lose the car, he ran out of road. ;)

    http://www.michelinalley.com/?p=5807

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 19:40

    I'll skip that I think and finish up the BBC quali show then catch up with Tour de France.

    yeah, it's not that interesting. I'm going on to other stuff.

  • Steven Roy23/07/2011 at 19:40

    Steven, this Klaus Graf comment about his crash today in practice reminds me of what you say is a typical racing driver's answer. He didn't lose the car, he ran out of road. ;)

    If the car is sliding all over the place it has no grip and if it is not it has no power

  • Bert23/07/2011 at 19:41

    Pluto has a new moon

    Can you have a moon if you are not a planet? I think it more like a groopie or or something.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 19:41

    If the car is sliding all over the place it has no grip and if it is not it has no power

    The problem is the track is not wide enough, not that he lost it.

    hehe

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 19:43

    The problem is the track is not wide enough, not that he lost it.

    I mean yes, track width could be part of it, but the way he said it was...cute. That's probably not the right word. Endearing may be better...Whatever, gotta love 'em.

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 19:45

    Pluto has a new moon

    Can you have a moon if you are not a planet? I think it more like a groopie or or something.

    That's no moon.

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 19:48

    Bert: 23/07/2011 at 20:41:51

    Pluto has a new moon

    Can you have a moon if you are not a planet? I think it more like a groopie or or something.

    If I recall my Duran Duran, right, only on Monday.... :p.

    (God I miss Giggles Radio!)

  • Mav23/07/2011 at 19:56

    good evening

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 19:58

    Micro Machines PING!

    http://w.wso.li/pDsvtt

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 20:09

    Micro Machines PING!

    i'll raise you some html5 mario.

    http://mario.fromlifetodeath.com/

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 20:10

    i'll raise you some html5 mario.

    Goodbye rest of the evening

    How awesome!!

  • Christine23/07/2011 at 20:15
  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 20:15

    It does need the music though

    #fussy

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 20:16

    It does need the music though

    ahhhh!

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 20:17

    It does need the music though

    #fussy

    Agree, but wow, I'm amazed they got it into a browser

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 20:18

    Agree, but wow, I'm amazed they got it into a browser

    and the fact it's completely different every time! Just awesome

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 20:46

    mclaren donuts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2gZk1ubsUc

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 20:52

    mclaren donuts: www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=C2gZk1ubsUc

    much more donut-y than timo's car park cruising :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:03

    much more donut-y than timo's car park cruising :)

    bless timo.

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 21:03

    Interesting idea I hadn't heard of before- crowd-funding books.

    http://www.economist.com/node/18988946?fsrc=scn/tw/te/ar/anovelidea

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:13

    Interesting idea I hadn't heard of before- crowd-funding books.

    www.economist.com…/te/ar/anovelidea

    ooh, that's a fine idea.

    "Many fans want to sup with Mr Jones, despite the fact that he once exploded after eating a wafer-thin mint."

    hehehe. i'd suggest selling lunch with christine, but she doesn't much like going out... or eating.

    how 'bout... an email conversation with the author? can i hear five pounds? four?

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 21:15

    how 'bout... an email conversation with the author? can i hear five pounds? four?

    sign me up! :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:15

    sign me up! :)

    damn i started too low ;)

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 21:16

    how 'bout... an email conversation with the author? can i hear five pounds? four?

    four and a half!!

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 21:16

    damn i started too low ;)

    It just reminded me of the SPC community and how much we want to support your endeavors. :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:18

    It just reminded me of the SPC community and how much we want to support your endeavors. :)

    *hugs*

    we're probably talking way too much about books and apps at the moment, but new things are so much fun.

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 21:18

    I've been looking at a few things from comic con and this is definitely my favourite thing :D

  • Kai23/07/2011 at 21:19

    we're probably talking way too much about books and apps at the moment, but new things are so much fun.

    I agree. Keep it up.

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:20

    I've been looking at a few things from comic con and this is definitely my favourite thing :D

    awwwwwww, yes!

    did you hear about the guy with a sign bono gave his guitar too? (don't recall if i commented it)

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 21:20

    did you hear about the guy with a sign bono gave his guitar too? (don't recall if i commented it)

    I don't think so, or at least I can't remember it :(

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:22

    I don't think so, or at least I can't remember it :(

    http://dooce.com/2011/07/06/chills-i-tell-you

    signs are ace.

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 21:24

    signs are ace.

    Awwwww. What an incredible gesture! Brilliant moment with them on stage :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:34

    mogwai are great for my productivity. and best of all, itunes festival has no swearing to mute :)

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 21:44

    Whooooops!

    I have spent way too much time here in a good way. Honestly, you guys are about as bad a time-killer as Home Depot!

    Oooooh! Ball Hammers!

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:47

    I have spent way too much time here in a good way. Honestly, you guys are about as bad a time-killer as Home Depot!

    the trick is to be here in spirit but not in person. that way you get stuff done and still follow the comments. apparently.

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 21:53

    Mr C: 23/07/2011 at 22:47:05

    I have spent way too much time here in a good way. Honestly, you guys are about as bad a time-killer as Home Depot!

    the trick is to be here in spirit but not in person. that way you get stuff done and still follow the comments. apparently.

    Here in spirit ? Good Lord, Mr. C has fallen into a vat of alcohol ! Someone, help me save the brew before he drinks it all!

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 21:53

    Here in spirit ? Good Lord, Mr. C has fallen into a vat of alcohol ! Someone, help me save the brew before he drinks it all!

    it's only wine...

  • Jordan F123/07/2011 at 21:55

    Mr C: 23/07/2011 at 22:53:41

    Here in spirit ? Good Lord, Mr. C has fallen into a vat of alcohol ! Someone, help me save the brew before he drinks it all!

    it's only wine...

    Bah, pick his pockets and toss him back in....

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 22:10

    Wow, what a battle in Le Tour the last few days :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 22:15

    Wow, what a battle in Le Tour the last few days :)

    reading lots of tweets about it. is it always like that?

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 22:28

    reading lots of tweets about it. is it always like that?

    Not at all, this is the best Tour I've ever seen and the commentary said it was the tightest in 20 years or more.

    The last stage (which is tomorrow) is always a bit of a celebratory run around Paris which doesn't affect the lead so it is essentially over now. Usually it is all sewn up on Thursday/Friday with the last stages climbing up the Alps, which creates time gaps in the overall standings (because climbing an Alp on a push bike is ruddy difficult). The last few days they took time out of each other which kept things close, until the race changed today to leave the mountains and instead became an individual time trial where they go one at a time for 50km instead of in a bunch for 200km. (think one lap qualifying) You get people who are better at that than others. The time trial specialist was a minute down on the mountain specialists, which was remarkable in itself because he basically did all the hard work up the mountain yesterday to maintain that gap, and today he goes and beats them all. From a minute down to 90 seconds up.

    He tried the same tactic twice in the past and lost.

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 22:29

    I want to blog it but I should wait until they finish tomorrow just in case one of the leaders crashes

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 22:30

    He tried the same tactic twice in the past and lost.

    wow.

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 22:30

    I want to blog it but I should wait until they finish tomorrow just in case one of the leaders crashes

    please do!

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 22:39

    He tried the same tactic twice in the past and lost.

    wow.

    First time Aussie winner and he's been trying for years. 2nd and 3rd are brothers, first time that's happened.

    Gary Imlach of ITV4 was saying they should build a 4th step of the podium for another chap, who deserves to be up there too for leading for ten days when he should never have managed to keep it for a week in the Alps because he wasn't supposed to be good enough..

    Crazy race.

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 22:39

    And nobody has been thrown out for drugs

  • Pat W23/07/2011 at 22:40

    and from Twitter it looks like Takuma Sato might be getting another front row start tomorrow

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 22:42

    And nobody has been thrown out for drugs

    :)

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 23:07

    What a lovely surprise of a film Paul was. As much as I love Frost and Pegg I wasn't expecting much but I shouldn't have worried :)

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 23:07

    What a lovely surprise of a film Paul was. As much as I love Frost and Pegg I wasn't expecting much but I shouldn't have worried :)

    first film of theirs i've seen, but i really liked it.

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 23:08

    first film of theirs i've seen, but i really liked it.

    Have you never seen Hot Fuzz or Shaun?

  • Lukeh23/07/2011 at 23:08

    Well that was a silly question in retrospect

  • Mr C23/07/2011 at 23:10

    Well that was a silly question in retrospect

    :) :)

    hot fuzz is on the list.