Hello there, it’s Gavin again, author of the F1 stats blog ‘Making Up The Numbers’ – which means it’s Wednesday, or ‘Hump Day’ if you are so inclined.

  • In fact, today is my Monday because as I mentioned last week, I have been busy moving house (and cities) from Odense to Copenhagen. I have basically spent the last week moving out, cleaning the old house so well that you could have removed any existence of us living there, then moving all the stuff to the new place, building everything up, connecting up stuff and then unpacking and putting everything away. But we feel like we’ve done really well, and the new flat is really awesome, so we are very happy :D
  • Things I learnt from the move:

    (1) You can never throw out too much stuff beforehand;

    (2) Family are both a great help and a hindrance to you;

    (3) You end up having to buy so many things you need while unpacking! But like I said, the move was a success and now we have to get used to our new way of life…

  • F1 News? Well, there seems to have been a proposal for an F1 race in Jersey City, which our friend Joe has blogged about. I reckon this sounds like a great idea and I am really excited about it myself!
  • There have been mixed reviews about the new Silverstone layout, with some drivers not liking it too much and Pat cautiously optimistic. But you have to see James Allen team up with his old mate Martin Brundle driving around the new circuit in HD - I think it will work well for F1 cars and I love the fact that they have named one of the new parts the ‘Wellington Straight’ – as I lived in Wellington, NZ for just over 10 years ;)
  • Finally, have you seen the spectacular crash that Ricardo Teixera had in the F2 race yet? It’s an absolute classic and will no doubt be on those ‘Crash Fest’-Type programs for years to come. Again, Joe is the source of the info and you can enjoy it because no one gets hurt, but the best part is the second video taken from an in-car view of another driver – watch how poor Ricardo just flies over his head!

Well that’s all from me for now – enjoy your Wednesday and see you in the comments!

Gavin.

484 responses

  • Steven Roy04/05/2010 at 23:21

    Star Wars day is over

  • Pat W04/05/2010 at 23:26

    Star Wars day is over

    Cor two plugs in a row, thanks Gavin :) Doesn't mean anyone is reading or commenting on it though, I guess nobody is that interested or it was just poorly written. Or too long. Still learning this blogger lark.

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 00:20

    Oops. I just bought a new mobile phone....

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 00:20

    Oops. I just bought a new mobile phone....

    Sounds like you did it accidently

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 00:22

    Sounds like you did it accidently

    Well I didn't wake up this morning thinking "I know what I need....." I guess I have 14 days to send it back :P

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 00:23

    Well I didn't wake up this morning thinking "I know what I need....." I guess I have 14 days to send it back :P

    I wonder how long you could go buying phones and sending them back before you ran out of phone suppliers

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 00:24

    I wonder how long you could go buying phones and sending them back before you ran out of phone suppliers

    Hahaha

    I might keep it actually. Thinking about it, I haven't had a new phone since 2006. Plus this one will save me a small fortune on skype calls.

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 00:32

    I watched a video review. I've decided the phone is too new and shiny to send back.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 00:32

    I watched a video review. I've decided the phone is too new and shiny to send back.

    What phone is it?

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 00:33

    I watched a video review. I've decided the phone is too new and shiny to send back.

    Which phone is it?

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 00:56

    I keep phone. I've decided I love it. RIP 4 year old Nokia....

  • me05/05/2010 at 00:56

    I keep phone. I've decided I love it. RIP 4 year old Nokia....

    have ya told us what it is yet?

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 00:56

    I keep phone. I've decided I love it. RIP 4 year old Nokia....

    What kind of phone is it?

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 00:57

    What kind of phone is it?

    Magic skypephone.

  • me05/05/2010 at 00:59

    Magic skypephone.

    oooh wow. that is a fab piece of kit. no more mobile doohickey for you

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 01:00

    Magic skypephone.

    What's a magic skypephone?

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 01:00

    oooh wow. that is a fab piece of kit. no more mobile doohickey for you

    Yeah. I can't even install skype app on ancient nokia. My life costs me a fortune. I think I can justify this under efficiency savings :P

  • me05/05/2010 at 01:03

    What's a magic skypephone?

    this one i think: http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 01:03

    this one i think: http://www.htc...t/magic/overview.html

    shiny shiny!!

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 01:04

    shiny shiny!!

    It looks shiny to me

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 01:49

    morning folks - anyone about?

    just out of bed after a good evenings sleep

    :)

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 02:08

    morning folks - anyone about?

    just out of bed after a good evenings sleep

    :)

    I'm up and about!

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 02:09

    hey jpancoast,

    what goes on?

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 02:10

    hey jpancoast,

    what goes on?

    Not much, went karting tonight, now gotta work on last CS project of this semester.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 02:11

    Not much, went karting tonight, now gotta work on last CS project of this semester.

    oh sweet // interesting

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 02:14

    I'm happy about my shiny shiny new phone. I best go to sleep now though or I'll never get up for work. That isn't how one pays for shiny shiny things :(

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 02:15

    I'm happy about my shiny shiny new phone. I best go to sleep now though or I'll never get up for work. That isn't how one pays for shiny shiny things :(

    am now too awake for sleep

    :/

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 02:15

    I'm happy about my shiny shiny new phone. I best go to sleep now though or I'll never get up for work. That isn't how one pays for shiny shiny things :(

    which one did you get? the Magic? Is it an android phone?

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 02:17

    I'm happy about my shiny shiny new phone. I best go to sleep now though or I'll never get up for work. That isn't how one pays for shiny shiny things :(

    which one did you get? the Magic? Is it an android phone?

    My wife and I just got HTC Incredibles last week.

    They do indeed live up to their name!

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 02:18

    my phone makes phone calls (sometimes)

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 02:18

    which one did you get? the Magic? Is it an android phone?

    It's very shiny and a lot more snazzy than anything I've ever owned before. I'm a complete moron when it comes to phones. My understanding is in minus numbers. This is probably an argument against ordering phones in the middle of the night on the internet.

  • me05/05/2010 at 02:19

    ping: http://sidepodcast.com/2010/05/05/new-rules-f1-does-it-the-traditional-way/

  • me05/05/2010 at 02:20

    My wife and I just got HTC Incredibles last week.

    They do indeed live up to their name!

    good to hear :)

  • me05/05/2010 at 02:32

    and now i must sleep, night leigh and anyone else who's still awake

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 02:35

    night mr c

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 03:11

    I am in lame leadership training all day. One question was to name a leader you admire and I said Ron Dennis and no one knew who he was :D

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 03:18

    I am in lame leadership training all day. One question was to name a leader you admire and I said Ron Dennis and no one knew who he was :D

    I hate those meetings. A means to an end if the end is nowhere

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 04:49

    Mr C for when you wake up...

    A short article on the difference between how the Mac and Windows font rendering works (which you may well know everything in): http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html

    And then for when you are ready to really geek out on font rendering you may graduate to this monster article which, needless to say, I found fascinating:

    http://www.antigrain.com/research/font_rasterization/index.html

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 05:35

    Hey folks,

    Not amazing, but I'm quite happy with it

    PING: http://theformulaoneandmotorsportsarchive.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/interview-karun-chandhok-hispania-racing-formula-1-driver/

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 05:39

    :)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 07:22

    Morning Sidepodcast!

    I got lost cycling to work this morning (Google Maps told me to cycle up a Motorway) but I still made it on time ;)

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 07:55

    Morning everyone. Another lovely day outside to point and laugh at being stuck in doing this assignment, boo.

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 07:57

    Morning everyone. Another lovely day outside to point and laugh at being stuck in doing this assignment, boo.

    What is your assignment about?

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 07:59

    What is your assignment about?

    Making a facebook style website but for senior citizens. There's a real company behind this that want to look at our final ideas but I just want to geget it out the way and finish uni now :)

  • James05/05/2010 at 08:00

    Making a facebook style website but for senior citizens. There's a real company behind this that want to look at our final ideas but I just want to geget it out the way and finish uni now :)

    I wish I was doing that. I'm stuck writing thousands of words :(

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:01

    I wish I was doing that. I'm stuck writing thousands of words :(

    Gosh, everyone is so productive today! What are you writing about?

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:01

    Making a facebook style website but for senior citizens. There's a real company behind this that want to look at our final ideas but I just want to geget it out the way and finish uni now :)

    If it is actually usable and doesn't change all the time, I would like to use that site please. :)

  • James05/05/2010 at 08:02

    Gosh, everyone is so productive today! What are you writing about?

    I have to write up my project log. I also have a 5000 word report to write at some point!

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:04

    If it is actually usable and doesn't change all the time, I would like to use that site please. :)

    we have a list of objectives to reach the final aim and this is our first objective from the outcome:

    1. Don't mess around with features not needing messing around with and remember to keep the functions of the site practical and easy to use

    it's like our little poke at facebook if you will ;)

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 08:05

    morning folks

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:06

    I have to write up my project log. I also have a 5000 word report to write at some point!

    These word counts all seem enormous. The only word count I've ever had to stick to is 400.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:06

    These word counts all seem enormous. The only word count I've ever had to stick to is 400.

    never. writing. 15k. again.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:06

    morning folks

    Hiya leigh, how are you?

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 08:07

    Hiya leigh, how are you?

    not too bad Lukeh - very happy with this morning's work

    :D

  • James05/05/2010 at 08:07

    These word counts all seem enormous. The only word count I've ever had to stick to is 400.

    It should be straight forward. I just need all the supporting evidence so I actually have something to talk about in those 5000 words :)

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:08

    Christine I'm not sure if you say my Cs5 blog post last night but I may have made the Bahrain GP a more realistic memory for you: http://toata.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/79-miami-cs5/

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:09

    Christine I'm not sure if you say my Cs5 blog post last night but I may have made the Bahrain GP a more realistic memory for you: http://toata.w...0/05/04/79-miami-cs5/

    Oooh.

    1) That's incredible.

    2) That's what it was like!

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:13

    1) That's incredible.

    2) That's what it was like!

    I'm still gobsmacked it worked. when you try it with quite complex photos in terms of detail it is a bit funny but eventually, for 10 or so clicks of a buton, it came out quite staggering. The others were just a few clicks as well, my mind was definitely blown.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 08:17

    What is your assignment about?

    Making a facebook style website but for senior citizens. There's a real company behind this that want to look at our final ideas but I just want to geget it out the way and finish uni now :)

    That sounds really interesting. Do give us some more details if/when you can?

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 08:17

    I am looking at all my emails and about to go to a department meeting :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 08:18

    i hope no one minds if i re-plug this

    :)

    http://theformulaoneandmotorsportsarchive.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/interview-karun-chandhok-hispania-racing-formula-1-driver/

    must now re-hibernate in work (employment mode...)

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 08:19

    7am feels like far too long ago

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:23

    i hope no one minds if i re-plug this

    :)

    http://theform...ing-formula-1-driver/

    Oooooh!

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:24

    i hope no one minds if i re-plug this

    :)

    http://theform...ing-formula-1-driver/

    wow! Awesome!

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 08:30

    Oooooh!

    wow! Awesome!

    safe to say, i'm in a good mood today

    :D

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:30

    Interesting, Christian Klien will be in the HRT on Friday morning

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:31

    Interesting, Christian Klien will be in the HRT on Friday morning

    http://www.hispaniaf1team.com/en/home/125-hrt-f1-team-hispania-racing-signs-christian-klien-as-a-reserve-and-test-driver

    Christian Klien will be part of the team’s race weekend preparations and drive on Friday morning at the Spanish Grand Prix during its first European race in its inaugural season. Christian will also provide car development support back to the team, assisting drivers Karun Chandhok and Bruno Senna.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 08:33

    http://www.his...serve-and-test-driver

    Christian Klien will be part of the team’s race weekend preparations and drive on Friday morning at the Spanish Grand Prix during its first European race in its inaugural season. Christian will also provide car development support back to the team, assisting drivers Karun Chandhok and Bruno Senna.

    whatever happened to yamamoto?

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:34

    whatever happened to yamamoto?

    Looks like he's still there but just there doing nothing.

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:35

    Interesting, Christian Klien will be in the HRT on Friday morning

    Grrrr.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:36

    Grrrr.

    Never gonna be a fan are you? :)

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:37

    Never gonna be a fan are you? :)

    I hold grudges.

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 08:41

    Interesting, Christian Klien will be in the HRT on Friday morning

    I know one girl who will be veeeeeery happy and one who will be quite the oppsoite.

    Grrrr.

    and there one of them is now.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 08:42

    is klien was angry at toro rosso, i wonder how he'll be driving the hrt car

    :o

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:44

    and there one of them is now.

    Oh dear. I am so predictable!

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 08:46

    Oh dear. I am so predictable!

    its ok, grudges are perfectly acceptable.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 08:54

    OMG!

    I've just discovered it's spelt Flintstones, not Flinstones...

    My life has been a lie!!!

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 08:57

    My life has been a lie!!!

    you called them the flinstones? I blame the Welsh accent. :D

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 08:58

    I've just discovered it's spelt Flintstones, not Flinstones...

    Erm, because, you know, flintstone is an actual stone. :)

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 09:04

    Here's another Film Watch post that I'd forgotten I scheduled: http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2010/05/05/film-watch-53-ghostbusters-ii/

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 09:04

    Here's another Film Watch post that I'd forgotten I scheduled: http://smarter...h-53-ghostbusters-ii/

    I only have two more and then I'll be up to date. First time since Christmas.

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 09:07

    I only have two more and then I'll be up to date. First time since Christmas.

    the amount of movies you have posted recently makes me think that I don't watch anywhere near enough movies. Now that my flatmate who dragged me to the theatre with her has moved to London I think I'll probably watch even less.

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 09:09

    the amount of movies you have posted recently makes me think that I don't watch anywhere near enough movies. Now that my flatmate who dragged me to the theatre with her has moved to London I think I'll probably watch even less.

    Yes, I hadn't anticipated this many when I began. But that's okay, I've got a lot of catching up to do!

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 09:10

    Yes, I hadn't anticipated this many when I began. But that's okay, I've got a lot of catching up to do!

    I think rather than watch movies this weekend I need to play Lost catchup again. I'm 4 episodes behind again, I don't know how this keeps happening :D

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 09:12

    I think rather than watch movies this weekend I need to play Lost catchup again. I'm 4 episodes behind again, I don't know how this keeps happening :D

    There are only four left!

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 09:13

    There are only four left!

    I need to catch up so I can finish it when the rest of the world finishes it so I don't get spoiled, because for once I don't want to be :D

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 09:14

    I need to catch up so I can finish it when the rest of the world finishes it so I don't get spoiled, because for once I don't want to be :D

    The couple of days between it airing and us getting it are going to be a nightmare.

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 09:17

    The couple of days between it airing and us getting it are going to be a nightmare.

    and then we get it a week after the UK! I don't think I'll cope. I might have to use dubious secret means.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 09:17

    I need to catch up on about 6 weeks of Flash Forward. I think if I just watch this week's episode I might find out everything I need to know, right?

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 09:18

    oooh Jake says no DC in Barcelona. I wonder if EJ will be more tolerable without having someone he can constantly disagree with

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 09:18

    and then we get it a week after the UK! I don't think I'll cope. I might have to use dubious secret means.

    I don't blame you.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 09:30

    you called them the flinstones? I blame the Welsh accent. :D

    I geniunely thought they were flinstones. I feel bad not knowing this :(

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 09:32

    I geniunely thought they were flinstones. I feel bad not knowing this :(

    Aww. They're still great though.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 09:32

    Aww. They're still great though.

    next I'll be finding out there's a p in simpsons and everything

    (don't worry, I know there is)

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 09:54

    Yay a Kindle software update! I want it now!

    The organisation thing I have wanted for soooo long.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 10:11

    Hello.

    Just catching up, lots of tabs to open and read over lunch, I like it. :)

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 10:11

    Hello.

    Just catching up, lots of tabs to open and read over lunch, I like it. :)

    Here's another one!

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2010/05/05/3d-vs-hd/

    Ooh, good plugging if I do say so myself.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 10:11

    Yes, I hadn't anticipated this many when I began. But that's okay, I've got a lot of catching up to do!

    I think rather than watch movies this weekend I need to play Lost catchup again. I'm 4 episodes behind again, I don't know how this keeps happening :D

    I don't seem to find time for movies. I have a backlog.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 10:12

    I need to catch up on about 6 weeks of Flash Forward. I think if I just watch this week's episode I might find out everything I need to know, right?

    No you'll be lost I think. It is worth watching them, even though there's a couple of slow ones

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 10:12

    I need to catch up on about 6 weeks of Flash Forward. I think if I just watch this week's episode I might find out everything I need to know, right?

    No you'll be lost I think. It is worth watching them, even though there's a couple of slow ones

    Ta muchly ;)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 10:13

    Hello.

    Just catching up, lots of tabs to open and read over lunch, I like it. :)

    Here's another one!

    http://smarter.../2010/05/05/3d-vs-hd/

    Ooh, good plugging if I do say so myself.

    My wife doesn't care for HD - even though you can clearly see it's better she ain't bothered!

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 10:14

    My wife doesn't care for HD - even though you can clearly see it's better she ain't bothered!

    I didn't to start with. And when I buy on iTunes, I still buy SD because I am cheap. But watching LOST in HD has really opened my eyes to it.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 10:16

    Ta muchly ;)

    Unless you're not that into it of course :)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 10:19

    Ta muchly ;)

    Unless you're not that into it of course :)

    I am into it, just that moving house consumed me. Now I have extra time I can start to watch them again :D

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 10:20

    Yay for Claire! http://twitter.com/ClaireVWilliams/status/13418239270

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 10:27

    Morning all.

    Making a facebook style website but for senior citizens.

    Can you design in a feature for fiddling about with exact change at checkouts?

    No you'll be lost I think. It is worth watching them, even though there's a couple of slow ones

    Pat speaks the truth.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 10:31

    Sorry Christine, I ended up leaving two comments about the HD vs. 3D thing. But you should all read this article by Roger Ebert as he makes some very good points...

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 10:32

    Pat speaks the truth.

    First time for everything :)

    It plods along for a bit then suddenly something important happens

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 10:33

    Pat speaks the truth.

    First time for everything :)

    It plods along for a bit then suddenly something important happens

    I'm still at the 'plodding with a little reveal 30 seconds before the end' stage...

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 10:33

    Sorry Christine, I ended up leaving two comments about the HD vs. 3D thing.

    I do not have a comment limit.

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:34

    My wife doesn't care for HD - even though you can clearly see it's better she ain't bothered!

    we spoke to another family member at the weekend, who still insists on watching video cassettes

    am currently seeking legal advice as to whether we can disown them

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 10:35

    am currently seeking legal advice as to whether we can disown them

    :)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 10:35

    My wife doesn't care for HD - even though you can clearly see it's better she ain't bothered!

    we spoke to another family member at the weekend, who still insists on watching video cassettes

    am currently seeking legal advice as to whether we can disown them

    I have some videos of stuff but no idea how to watch them. I've gotta try copying them over to digital media at some point...

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 10:35

    we spoke to another family member at the weekend, who still insists on watching video cassettes

    I hear betamax is going to be the new video cassette soon

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:35

    And then for when you are ready to really geek out on font rendering you may graduate to this monster article which, needless to say, I found fascinating:

    http://www.ant...terization/index.html

    wow

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 10:36

    I geniunely thought they were flinstones. I feel bad not knowing this :(

    They even say it twice...

    Television: *Flintstones*

    'lil' Lukeh: *Flinstones*

    Television: *Meet the Flintstones*

    'lil' Lukeh: *It's the Flinstone Yabadoooo*

    Television: *Yababadabadoo*

    :)

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:42

    And then for when you are ready to really geek out on font rendering you may graduate to this monster article which, needless to say, I found fascinating:

    out of interest, where do you weigh in on the helvetica versus lucida debate, and is the temporary change worth keeping?

    http://sidepodcast.com/2010/05/04/an-f1-fans-tale-of-avoiding-grand-prix-results/

    same question to everybody, who has two mins to kill

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 10:45

    we spoke to another family member at the weekend, who still insists on watching video cassettes

    It was with some pleasure that I consigned our VCR to the tip last weekend, although (curiously) Mrs C has yet to sanction the removal of video tapes from the house!

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 10:46

    Television: *Flintstones*

    'lil' Lukeh: *Flinstones*

    Television: *Meet the Flintstones*

    'lil' Lukeh: *It's the Flinstone Yabadoooo*

    Television: *Yababadabadoo*

    Pretty much :)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 10:47

    we spoke to another family member at the weekend, who still insists on watching video cassettes

    It was with some pleasure that I consigned our VCR to the tip last weekend, although (curiously) Mrs C has yet to sanction the removal of video tapes from the house!

    That's sorta the situation we are in...

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 10:47

    out of interest, where do you weigh in on the helvetica versus lucida debate, and is the temporary change worth keeping?

    I'd say yes... I like it... It seems better spaced to be honest.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 10:49

    out of interest, where do you weigh in on the helvetica versus lucida debate, and is the temporary change worth keeping?

    I'd say yes... I like it... It seems better spaced to be honest.

    I noticed it last night and I quite liked it. Don't know what that means if anything but it looks pretty ;)

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:50

    I'd say yes... I like it... It seems better spaced to be honest.

    ta. just to try and out geek you. care to guess why the whole of apple's website is in lucida grande, except for steve's rant out flash? which oddly is in verdana?

    (i must get out more, really)

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 10:51

    ta. just to try and out geek you. care to guess why the whole of apple's website is in lucida grande, except for steve's rant out flash? which oddly is in verdana?

    Verdana is open sourced?

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:51

    I noticed it last night and I quite liked it. Don't know what that means if anything but it looks pretty ;)

    the only real question is, do you find it easier to read long paragraphs of text compared to what it was previously?

    for a direct comparison, realtime is still in the other typeface: http://sidepodcast.com/realtime/

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:51

    Verdana is open sourced?

    :) :)

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 10:52

    (i must get out more, really)

    Seriously.

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:52

    It was with some pleasure that I consigned our VCR to the tip last weekend, although (curiously) Mrs C has yet to sanction the removal of video tapes from the house!

    i guess the question is, how long did she keep hold of your audio cassettes?

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 10:52

    (i must get out more, really)

    Seriously.

    http://www.thedesignbuzz.net/apple-switches-to-verdana/

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 10:53

    If you really want to be confused I turned ClearType on at work and everything looks great.... apart from Doohickey, which looks more blocky

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 10:53

    (i must get out more, really)

    Seriously.

    http://www.the...-switches-to-verdana/

    That was an April fools by the way... Funny that Steve then did it...

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:54

    (i must get out more, really)

    Seriously.

    i've spent a lot of time thinking about typefaces! i've looked at thousands of sites in the most unbelievable detail. it's not an easy choice :)

    did you know for example, autosport use lucida for text on the homepage, but verdana for text on news and articles?

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:55

    http://www.the...-switches-to-verdana/

    That was an April fools by the way... Funny that Steve then did it...

    how weird

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:55

    If you really want to be confused I turned ClearType on at work and everything looks great.... apart from Doohickey, which looks more blocky

    ha. brilliant :)

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 10:56

    i guess the question is, how long did she keep hold of your audio cassettes?

    There may still be some around somewhere...

    In other news, I'm voting for Helvetica.

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 10:56

    did you know for example, autosport use lucida for text on the homepage, but verdana for text on news and articles?

    I do not care did not know that, no.

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:57

    In other news, I'm voting for Helvetica.

    ooh, ta

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:57

    I do not care did not know that, no.

    ouch :)

  • me05/05/2010 at 10:58

    I do not care did not know that, no.

    i get the impression, my attention to typeface detail might annoy joe too :)

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 11:16

    I'm going to upgrade to Snow Leopard in a few weeks (pending the arrival of certain delayed cheques)

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 11:37

    Hello all. Just wanted to contribute to the debate; I use Windows 7.

    I've compared the two Daily posts & I prefer the lucida one as it seems better set out.

    Looking at the home page, I find a lot of lucida spikey and less friendly. Also, the headings look squashed. I think it's because I've always used arial at work so I'm familiar with it and I view it as rounded and friendly.

    My request would be for posts in lucida, headings and comments in arial but I don't think that would be practical.

    If I have to choose I would say lucida as I'm sure I'll get used to it and it makes a lot of text easier to read.

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 11:39

    Wingdings

    :) :) :)

    I'm with Steven on Wingdings as it makes the first letter of my name a smiley face :)

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 11:41

    did you know for example, autosport use lucida for text on the homepage, but verdana for text on news and articles?

    I do know this yes! Thanks to photoshop and more boredom :)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 11:48

    did you know for example, autosport use lucida for text on the homepage, but verdana for text on news and articles?

    I do know this yes! Thanks to photoshop and more boredom :)

    I realised something was weird when the articles were playing up one time...

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 11:50

    I realised something was weird when the articles were playing up one time...

    For a while I had a thing where the whole text on articles originally stayed the correct font but then went to Times New Roman and a larger font. It's stopped doing it not but it was really annoying

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 11:51

    I realised something was weird when the articles were playing up one time...

    For a while I had a thing where the whole text on articles originally stayed the correct font but then went to Times New Roman and a larger font. It's stopped doing it not but it was really annoying

    That's what I had. Did they suggest subscribing to PLUS to get rid of the issue? ;)

  • 4chords05/05/2010 at 12:22

    Oh dear...McLaren wouldn't rearrange the pit tour :( Hope Joe will still allow us onboard later in the day!

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 12:30

    Good Q&A Leigh

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 12:34

    cheers pat

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 12:35

    cheers pat

    How did you get that sorted by the way? Impressive!

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 12:37

    I e-mailed Suhail Chandhok (his brother / PR manager-chap) about a possible interview, but also pointed him towards samples of the site to have a look at. Hopefully, they liked what they saw...

  • me05/05/2010 at 12:46

    I'm going to upgrade to Snow Leopard in a few weeks (pending the arrival of certain delayed cheques)

    ace. it's mostly been good to me. i still have a few printing issues, but they've nailed almost all of the initial bugs.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 12:46

    yum - the chicken burger i just had was yum, but i do worry that my waist will explode

    :o

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 12:49

    Oh dear...McLaren wouldn't rearrange the pit tour :( Hope Joe will still allow us onboard later in the day!

    from my experience of doing both a Joe audience and a McLaren tour, the tours don't tend to last more than 20 minutes or so, and people were turning up well after Joe begun, he didn't even start bang on the start time because he gave people a chance to mingle and chat. I think you'll have no trouble going there after the pit tour and you won't miss much at all.

  • me05/05/2010 at 12:49

    I've compared the two Daily posts & I prefer the lucida one as it seems better set out.

    My request would be for posts in lucida, headings and comments in arial but I don't think that would be practical.

    cheers janna. the headings can easily be different. how does baskerville grab you? it's currently the typeface of the subheading, which at the moment reads "Every Week and Every Race Day"

  • me05/05/2010 at 12:50

    did you know for example, autosport use lucida for text on the homepage, but verdana for text on news and articles?

    I do know this yes! Thanks to photoshop and more boredom :)

    yay. affinity with lukeh

  • me05/05/2010 at 12:51

    Oh dear...McLaren wouldn't rearrange the pit tour :( Hope Joe will still allow us onboard later in the day!

    ahh shoot. am sure he'll be okay with that, but keep us posted 4chords

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 12:56

    anyhoo, best head back to work

    see you later

    :)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 12:56

    yum - the chicken burger i just had was yum, but i do worry that my waist will explode

    :o

    Another plus point of moving to Copenhagen: It has KFC, Dominos and Starbucks ;)

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 12:56

    Another plus point of moving to Copenhagen: It has KFC, Dominos and Starbucks ;)

    :O

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 12:57

    Another plus point of moving to Copenhagen: It has KFC, Dominos and Starbucks ;)

    Now you just need a yummy bakery... :)

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 12:57

    cheers janna. the headings can easily be different. how does baskerville grab you? it's currently the typeface of the subheading, which at the moment reads "Every Week and Every Race Day"

    It's all right but a bit squashed. I'm not sure I can explain this correctly but the text in the posts is better spaced than the text in the headings. If the spacing was the same I would like it more.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 12:58

    Another plus point of moving to Copenhagen: It has KFC, Dominos and Starbucks ;)

    Now you just need a yummy bakery... :)

    Oh there's plenty of those ... Denmark runs on Bakeries ;)

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 12:58

    Now you just need a yummy bakery... :)

    Oohh Lukeh, you will be pleased to know we now have 2 Greggs in Worthing - twice the yumminess :lol:

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 12:59

    Oohh Lukeh, you will be pleased to know we now have 2 Greggs in Worthing - twice the yumminess :lol:

    Woohoo!

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:01

    Oh there's plenty of those ... Denmark runs on Bakeries ;)

    Funny story - my parents in law love where we live but were disappointed that they had to drive 3km to a bakery to get the bread and Danish!

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 13:04

    Funny story - my parents in law love where we live but were disappointed that they had to drive 3km to a bakery to get the bread and Danish!

    Now thats dedication :)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:05

    Funny story - my parents in law love where we live but were disappointed that they had to drive 3km to a bakery to get the bread and Danish!

    Now thats dedication :)

    The whole country closes down for the holidays - save for the bakeries, who are open at 6am as per usual!

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:06

    It's all right but a bit squashed. I'm not sure I can explain this correctly but the text in the posts is better spaced than the text in the headings. If the spacing was the same I would like it more.

    got ya. cheers

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 13:06

    It's all right but a bit squashed. I'm not sure I can explain this correctly but the text in the posts is better spaced than the text in the headings. If the spacing was the same I would like it more.

    Just checked on my phone (Android) and the Baskerville looks loads better than it does on my PC. It must be really frustrating to get something looking just the way you want it to on one platform only for people not to like it on another.

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 13:13

    Just checked on my phone (Android) and the Baskerville looks loads better than it does on my PC. It must be really frustrating to get something looking just the way you want it to on one platform only for people not to like it on another.

    mmmmm.... ANDROID....

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 13:15

    mmmmm.... ANDROID....

    How incredible is your Incredible?

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 13:15

    How incredible is your Incredible?

    Pretty darn Incredible!

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:19

    mmmmm.... ANDROID....

    How incredible is your Incredible?

    *EU Trading Standards laws still apply...

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 13:20

    *EU Trading Standards laws still apply...

    Good thing I don't live in the EU! :)

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 13:20

    *EU Trading Standards laws still apply...

    is that why they haven't released it here?

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:20

    Just checked on my phone (Android) and the Baskerville looks loads better than it does on my PC. It must be really frustrating to get something looking just the way you want it to on one platform only for people not to like it on another.

    tell me about it. although, i guess if i wanted it the another way, i'd have to be working in print.

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 13:22

    tell me about it. although, i guess if i wanted it the another way, i'd have to be working in print.

    or just make the changes you want & don't worry about the rest of us ;)

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:23

    or just make the changes you want & don't worry about the rest of us ;)

    the problem is, i just can't decide

  • Amy05/05/2010 at 13:23

    grrr Bill Bailey is coming back to Melbourne and I want to go because last time he came while I was in Singapore and I missed out. It's not cheap though, Saving money is harrrrrrd.

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:24

    the problem is, i just can't decide

    plus while, i'm happy to say any users stuck on ie6 can take a running jump, i think if you're using a decent browser you should at least get a reasonable browsing experience

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:26

    the problem is, i just can't decide

    plus while, i'm happy to say any users stuck on ie6 can take a running jump, i think if you're using a decent browser you should at least get a reasonable browsing experience

    I should be one of those then - we are forced to choose IE6 or FF2 at work here!

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:28

    I should be one of those then - we are forced to choose IE6 or FF2 at work here!

    complete madness, but i know that's what a lot of companies do. the site will almost certainly look like a dogs dinner in either of those browsers

  • James05/05/2010 at 13:28

    plus while, i'm happy to say any users stuck on ie6 can take a running jump, i think if you're using a decent browser you should at least get a reasonable browsing experience

    Mr C. I love you :D

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:29

    Mr C. I love you :D

    hehe :)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:31

    I should be one of those then - we are forced to choose IE6 or FF2 at work here!

    complete madness, but i know that's what a lot of companies do. the site will almost certainly look like a dogs dinner in either of those browsers

    It doesn't work in IE6.

    Doohickey works in FF2 but LCLT and 'New Daily' struggle with script errors when there are a lot of comments to load!

  • James05/05/2010 at 13:31

    hehe :)

    my uni project works in ie6...just. it tends to load blank pages but a quick refresh and everything is fine. i think i've been overly nice to those still using ie6 :)

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 13:32

    grrr Bill Bailey is coming back to Melbourne and I want to go because last time he came while I was in Singapore and I missed out. It's not cheap though, Saving money is harrrrrrd.

    But it will be worth it. Have not seen him live but watched the Remarkable Guide to the Orchestra DVD at Christmas, absolutely fabulous.

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:32

    It doesn't work in IE6.

    eh? it works, it just looks... ropey. right?

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 13:33

    plus while, i'm happy to say any users stuck on ie6 can take a running jump, i think if you're using a decent browser you should at least get a reasonable browsing experience

    Some might consider a picture of someone giving you the finger would be a reasonable browsing experience for IE 6 and FF 2 users.

    Well, maybe that's just me, I never did like users :)

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:33

    my uni project works in ie6...just. it tends to load blank pages but a quick refresh and everything is fine. i think i've been overly nice to those still using ie6 :)

    i think by supporting ie6, you're basically saying that vhs tapes are ok

    ;)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:33

    It doesn't work in IE6.

    eh? it works, it just looks... ropey. right?

    Exactly. For me that's not really functional...

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 13:33

    But it will be worth it. Have not seen him live but watched the Remarkable Guide to the Orchestra DVD at Christmas, absolutely fabulous.

    Totally awesome DVD that

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 13:34

    Talking of fonts and stuff: http://xkcd.com/736/

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:34

    i think by supporting ie6, you're basically saying that vhs tapes are ok

    And that you're happy to watch TV in your undies out on the street...

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:34

    Exactly. For me that's not really functional...

    fair enough. i'm with jpancoast and james. eventually you have to move on or you'll still be supporting gramaphone users

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 13:34

    Talking of fonts and stuff: http://xkcd.com/736/

    :D

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:35

    Talking of fonts and stuff: http://xkcd.com/736/

    :D

    genius

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 13:35

    fair enough. i'm with jpancoast and james. eventually you have to move on or you'll still be supporting gramaphone users

    so basically you're with James (my real name) and James.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:35

    Exactly. For me that's not really functional...

    fair enough. i'm with jpancoast and james. eventually you have to move on or you'll still be supporting gramaphone users

    I agree entirely. But there are a lot of people out there who treat computers like they are cars - even if they are old, if they work, then you keep using them!

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:36

    fair enough. i'm with jpancoast and james. eventually you have to move on or you'll still be supporting gramaphone users

    so basically you're with James (my real name) and James.

    :D

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 13:36

    Talking of fonts and stuff: http://xkcd.com/736/

    SAAAANS SERRIIIIFFF!!!!!

  • lou05/05/2010 at 13:36

    we just passed woking for the second time today! how exciting! mum refuses to go looking for the mtc. oh and thank you for fixing the red mr c :)

  • James05/05/2010 at 13:36

    Exactly. For me that's not really functional...

    I hadn't seen sidepodcast in ie6 until just now: http://img294.imageshack.us/i/ie6.png/

    Just shows how far browsers have moved on.

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:37

    I hadn't seen sidepodcast in ie6 until just now: http://img294.imageshack.us/i/ie6.png/

    hehe. that is quite bad.

    but in other ways i think it makes a pretty clear statement :)

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 13:37

    I hadn't seen sidepodcast in ie6 until just now: http://img294.imageshack.us/i/ie6.png/

    Thats a unique design there

  • jpancoast05/05/2010 at 13:37

    so basically you're with James (my real name) and James.

    We have like 25 or so people in my group, 3 James'. Since I was there first the other two are Jim's

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 13:38

    we just passed woking for the second time today! how exciting! mum refuses to go looking for the mtc. oh and thank you for fixing the red mr c :)

    Woohoo!

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 13:38

    Some might consider a picture of someone giving you the finger would be a reasonable browsing experience for IE 6 and FF 2 users.

    New browser-specific 'sleeping' pic.

  • James05/05/2010 at 13:40

    I hadn't seen sidepodcast in ie6 until just now: http://img294.imageshack.us/i/ie6.png/

    hehe. that is quite bad.

    but in other ways i think it makes a pretty clear statement :)

    but in some good news IE as a whole now only makes up 59% of the total. http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0

    Its slow but people are seeing the light ;)

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:41

    but in some good news IE as a whole now only makes up 59% of the total. http://www.net...et-share.aspx?qprid=0

    much less on spc. i looked recently and ie6 was less than 10%

    mind you... having seen the homepage

  • James05/05/2010 at 13:45

    mind you... having seen the homepage

    hehe :D

    the next hurdle is going to be IE7. I hate to think how long that will stick around for.

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:47

    the next hurdle is going to be IE7. I hate to think how long that will stick around for.

    how does spc look in that? ie7 was quite a bit better if i recall.

  • James05/05/2010 at 13:49

    how does spc look in that? ie7 was quite a bit better if i recall.

    It works! :) http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3446/ie7.png

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:51

    It works! :) http://img100....s/img100/3446/ie7.png

    i need to fix the arrow anyhow, so once that's done, i'm happy for ie7 to stick around. it really just is ie6 that needs killing off

  • James05/05/2010 at 13:52

    i need to fix the arrow anyhow, so once that's done, i'm happy for ie7 to stick around. it really just is ie6 that needs killing off

    indeed. ie9 should be a massive step forward. although they will probably be behind again once the next versions of firefox and chrome arrive :D

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 13:53

    fair enough. i'm with jpancoast and james. eventually you have to move on or you'll still be supporting gramaphone users

    Lots of bands release singles on 7"

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 13:58

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83332

    Jersey City has given up on its plans to host a Formula 1 race in the future, with its mayor canning the project just one day after it was made public.

    They took advice well from the USF1 project

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 13:58

    grrr Bill Bailey is coming back to Melbourne and I want to go because last time he came while I was in Singapore and I missed out. It's not cheap though, Saving money is harrrrrrd.

    But it will be worth it. Have not seen him live but watched the Remarkable Guide to the Orchestra DVD at Christmas, absolutely fabulous.

    I've got that but not watched it yet - I've seen him live though, very very good

  • me05/05/2010 at 13:59

    Lots of bands release singles on 7"

    crazy people :)

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 14:03

    Jersey City has given up on its plans to host a Formula 1 race in the future, with its mayor canning the project just one day after it was made public.

    One day!

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 14:05

    One day!

    4 hours longer than Lopez' F1 career though!

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 14:07

    Jersey City has given up on its plans to host a Formula 1 race in the future, with its mayor canning the project just one day after it was made public.

    Oh what a surprise. Why would Jersey pay for a race when NY would get all the benefit and people would travel from NY every day for the race. I was surprised Joe was so positive about it because when an NY race was discussed before he was dismissive about it quoting hotel occupancy etc. A night race in that time zone is beyond insane.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 14:36

    Christian Klien making an F1 comeback

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/hrt-goes-for-kliens-experience/

  • me05/05/2010 at 14:43

    Christian Klien making an F1 comeback

    "Christian is a young and fast driver"

    but not as young or as fast as senna/chandock?

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 14:44

    but not as young or as fast as senna/chandock?

    He's not young at all in F1 terms is he?

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 14:44

    He's not young at all in F1 terms is he?

    Positively middle-aged.

  • me05/05/2010 at 14:45

    He's not young at all in F1 terms is he?

    Positively middle-aged.

    he's not very fast either is he?

  • me05/05/2010 at 14:45

    i do like how much f1 teams lack in originality. force india start a friday driver thing and now they all want a go. what changed since last year?

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 14:45

    he's not very fast either is he?

    I know he doesn't mind crashing at crucial moments.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 14:46

    I know he doesn't mind crashing at crucial moments.

    :D

  • me05/05/2010 at 14:46

    I know he doesn't mind crashing at crucial moments.

    oh lordy :)

  • me05/05/2010 at 14:46

    head ping for rg, klien needs your support...

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 14:47

    he's not very fast either is he?

    He's not that bad. Another Heidfeld IMO. Quick, capable, nothing stellar

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 14:48

    i do like how much f1 teams lack in originality. force india start a friday driver thing and now they all want a go. what changed since last year?

    Most F1 teams will copy anything. Look at all the F ducts this year and KERS and double diffusers last year. No-one was interested in young drivers till Hamilton appeared now that is all anyone wants.

  • me05/05/2010 at 14:49

    Most F1 teams will copy anything. Look at all the F ducts this year and KERS and double diffusers last year. No-one was interested in young drivers till Hamilton appeared now that is all anyone wants.

    but hamilton was around last year, and still no friday drivers

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 14:49

    but hamilton was around last year, and still no friday drivers

    Did a rule change?

  • me05/05/2010 at 14:50

    Did a rule change?

    not so far as i know, unless i forgot something?

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 14:50

    but hamilton was around last year, and still no friday drivers

    I was thinking about rac drivers. All anyone wanted before him was experience and now they want young guys. The Friday thing is clearly new this year and I have no idea why it started.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 14:51

    Did a rule change?

    Don't know. I guess that is one for Alianora

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 14:58

    I agree entirely. But there are a lot of people out there who treat computers like they are cars - even if they are old, if they work, then you keep using them!

    Which is why we have to make it obvious that they don't work

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 15:00

    I was thinking about rac drivers. All anyone wanted before him was experience and now they want young guys. The Friday thing is clearly new this year and I have no idea why it started.

    the badoer experience?

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:03

    the badoer experience?

    I am sure that didn't help anyone with experience and neither did Fisi's Ferrari performance.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 15:04

    Christian Klien making an F1 comeback

    "Christian is a young and fast driver"

    but not as young or as fast as senna/chandock?

    More to do with experience I think. He's there to fix the car. Chandhok told Leigh he and Senna could manage - I disagree and apparently so do the team

  • me05/05/2010 at 15:05

    I agree entirely. But there are a lot of people out there who treat computers like they are cars - even if they are old, if they work, then you keep using them!

    Which is why we have to make it obvious that they don't work

    also a good point.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:09

    More to do with experience I think. He's there to fix the car. Chandhok told Leigh he and Senna could manage - I disagree and apparently so do the team

    It will be interesting to see what Klien can do if he only drives Friday mornings. Half that session is spent getting a set up to suit the track before he can even start sensible testing. I can't imagine HRT have any data from previous seasons from other teams that will let them arrive with a near optimum set ups.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 15:11

    hello everyone! :)

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 15:11

    hello everyone! :)

    hullo, how did it go?

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:11

    hello everyone! :)

    Hi Lou. How did the interview go?

  • lou05/05/2010 at 15:12

    hullo, how did it go?

    i did text you (i think) *humph* :P

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 15:13

    i did text you (i think) *humph* :P

    My phone says otherwise, stupid phone :(

  • me05/05/2010 at 15:14

    It will be interesting to see what Klien can do if he only drives Friday mornings. Half that session is spent getting a set up to suit the track before he can even start sensible testing. I can't imagine HRT have any data from previous seasons from other teams that will let them arrive with a near optimum set ups.

    when was the last time klien ran at barca?

  • RG05/05/2010 at 15:15

    when was the last time klien ran at barca?

    It might have been 2009 if he was testing for BMW pre-season then?

    Hey folks..

  • me05/05/2010 at 15:16

    Hey folks..

    hey rg

  • me05/05/2010 at 15:16

    i did text you (i think) *humph* :P

    hey lou.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 15:17

    Hi Lou. How did the interview go?

    it went alright thanks, really really loved the town and the uni. It's a fine art course so it would be pretty challenging to start with but i was interviewed by the course director and he was really nice, bit crazy but we got on fine. :) all the students seem nice too.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 15:17

    it went alright thanks, really really loved the town and the uni. It's a fine art course so it would be pretty challenging to start with but i was interviewed by the course director and he was really nice, bit crazy but we got on fine. :) all the students seem nice too.

    Oooh, awesome. Crazy is always good.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:18

    it went alright thanks, really really loved the town and the uni. It's a fine art course so it would be pretty challenging to start with but i was interviewed by the course director and he was really nice, bit crazy but we got on fine. :) all the students seem nice too.

    I am glad you enjoyed it.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 15:18

    My phone says otherwise, stupid phone :(

    i might have text your old number...

  • RG05/05/2010 at 15:19

    it went alright thanks, really really loved the town and the uni. It's a fine art course so it would be pretty challenging to start with but i was interviewed by the course director and he was really nice, bit crazy but we got on fine. :) all the students seem nice too.

    Oooh, well, sounds good :)

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 15:20

    Off to work for me anyways, hopefully will be back in time for the quiz at 8:30. Byee!

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:21

    Woohoo

    Emma is getting paid by the Sun

    http://twitter.com/Deltachild/status/13416141703

  • me05/05/2010 at 15:21

    Emma is getting paid by the Sun

    http://twitter...ld/status/13416141703

    brilliant news

  • lou05/05/2010 at 15:22

    I am glad you enjoyed it.

    i got there and i really wanted to go home i was so nervous, but it turnedout okay

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:24

    i got there and i really wanted to go home i was so nervous, but it turnedout okay

    You have to remember everyone is nervous so there is no need for you to be. Let everyone else worry about how good you are.

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 15:26

    Twit.tv is down for everyone not just me :(

    http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/twit.tv

  • RG05/05/2010 at 15:28

    Twit.tv is down for everyone not just me :(

    Odd... both seem to work for me?

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:28

    Twit.tv is down for everyone not just me :(

    Meadia Temple not fail. Very confusing

    http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/sidepodcast.com

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 15:43

    On the dead site front, I see that Pit Lane mag appears to be mort...

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 15:46

    Wow that's a pretty big security flaw on Facebook:

    http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/05/05/video-major-facebook-security-hole-lets-you-view-your-friends-live-chats/

  • lou05/05/2010 at 15:47

    You have to remember everyone is nervous so there is no need for you to be. Let everyone else worry about how good you are.

    hehehe it was talking to the students which calmed me down actually. one walked me to my interview and she was so nice, she said the others had been really anti social towards her but i seemed friendly and like i would fit in well :) she even gave me a few tips for my interview as i was going in.

  • me05/05/2010 at 15:47

    On the dead site front, I see that Pit Lane mag appears to be mort...

    oh lord, what a disaster

  • me05/05/2010 at 15:49

    Wow that's a pretty big security flaw on Facebook:

    ouch. fourstar might be on to something :)

  • lou05/05/2010 at 15:52

    hehehe it was talking to the students which calmed me down actually. one walked me to my interview and she was so nice, she said the others had been really anti social towards her but i seemed friendly and like i would fit in well :) she even gave me a few tips for my interview as i was going in.

    oh and i even got offered a job in the pub we had lunch in! I got chatting to the owner and she offered me a job, she was disappointed when i said i was only in the area for an interview.

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 15:52

    Wow that's a pretty big security flaw on Facebook:

    Glad I never signed up!

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:56

    On the dead site front, I see that Pit Lane mag appears to be mort...

    I am not surprised. They were more anonymous than Mr C. I got several e-mails asking if I would write stuff for them last year and they still haven't told me the site has been launched or what it is called. I haven't had a single word from them since Feb/Mar.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:56

    hehehe it was talking to the students which calmed me down actually. one walked me to my interview and she was so nice, she said the others had been really anti social towards her but i seemed friendly and like i would fit in well :) she even gave me a few tips for my interview as i was going in.

    That is very positive.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:57

    oh and i even got offered a job in the pub we had lunch in! I got chatting to the owner and she offered me a job, she was disappointed when i said i was only in the area for an interview.

    Ask her if she can hold the job until September

  • lou05/05/2010 at 15:58

    Ask her if she can hold the job until September

    she said for me to come back if i need a job when at uni. Farnham is awesome :)

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 15:59

    oh and i even got offered a job in the pub we had lunch in!

    Blimey. Where was this?

    I tell you, it’s so hard to get the staff these days. I took Mrs C for a drink in our local on Monday late afternoon/early evening, and when we eventually got served (girl behind the bar had one eye on the football and the other on her phone) Mrs C’s wine glass turned out to be utterly filthy – even had lipstick on it. The girl giggled while apologising and fished out another glass, which was a smaller one (apparently this establishment now only has one large wine glass). Having decanted the contents, and found that not all of the wine would fit in the smaller glass, she tipped the rest of it down the sink and without another word went back to her viewing/texting.

    Since you get very little change from a tenner for a pint and a large/small wine at this place, I won’t be going back…

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 15:59

    she said for me to come back if i need a job when at uni. Farnham is awesome :)

    See. All you had to do was find a uni in a town that starts with F that had an F1 world champion. Simple

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:01

    Blimey. Where was this?

    erm i think it was called the Shepard & Flock..

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 16:01

    Wow that's a pretty big security flaw on Facebook:

    http://eu.tech...r-friends-live-chats/

    Suddenly chat is down for maintenance...

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 16:02

    On the dead site front, I see that Pit Lane mag appears to be mort...

    Good riddance to them!

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 16:04

    erm i think it was called the Shepard & Flock..

    On a big roundabout? That's our new local now that we've sacked the other place. It's a marvellous establishment.

    As to the denizens of UCA, though, I have a colossal downer at the moment...

    I haven't had a single word from them since Feb/Mar.

    The fellow who ran it seemed to have no idea how the media, the internet, intellectual property laws or F1 in general works.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:05

    On a big roundabout? That's our new local now that we've sacked the other place. It's a marvellous establishment.

    yep, i had the nicest lunch ever... :D so friendly too.

    As to the denizens of UCA, though, I have a colossal downer at the moment...

    oh?

  • me05/05/2010 at 16:05

    Since you get very little change from a tenner for a pint and a large/small wine at this place, I won’t be going back…

    our local pub serving lady was kicking up quite a fuss recently, because management had removed solitaire from the computerised till.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 16:07

    Since you get very little change from a tenner for a pint and a large/small wine at this place, I won’t be going back…

    our local pub serving lady was kicking up quite a fuss recently, because management had removed solitaire from the computerised till.

    Last time we went to the pub in the UK (The Traveller's Rest, if you must know) we had a lovely lady serve us.

    At least in the UK you get a chance of someone being nice - here in Denmark you're just a transaction...

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 16:12

    oh?

    Some of them are quite rough. We have a big problem with our neighbours on the noise/drug-dealing/general ASB front. A couple of weekends ago someone came banging on their door demanding money, and after he left a detachment of them went off looking for him – while wielding gold clubs. Not nice people.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:15

    The fellow who ran it seemed to have no idea how the media, the internet, intellectual property laws or F1 in general works.

    I have no idea who he is even though I had a few e-mails from him. I ony saw the site once when someone here linked to it.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:16

    oh?

    I am sure you will raise the tone. Students are ment to be annoying to old folk like Stuart.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:16

    our local pub serving lady was kicking up quite a fuss recently, because management had removed solitaire from the computerised till.

    :D

    I wonder why they removed it.

  • Jon Waldock05/05/2010 at 16:17

    I am sure you will raise the tone. Students are ment to be annoying to old folk like Stuart.

    *waves*

    I'm nice*

    *to most people (puts away golf club)

    Howdy everyone, I am 99% sure I'm leaving Bucks this year, just got to fill in paper work! Busy week!

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:18

    Some of them are quite rough. We have a big problem with our neighbours on the noise/drug-dealing/general ASB front. A couple of weekends ago someone came banging on their door demanding money, and after he left a detachment of them went off looking for him – while wielding gold clubs. Not nice people.

    oh goodness that doesn't sound nice at all! All of the photography students i met today seemed nice though.

    One thing that appealed to me was that there really wasn't any barriers between the different years, MA students helped out and were having coffee with first year BA students and everyone seemed to get on (in the photography section anyway). They also have a room with about 25 Macs in! and the most amazing film developing facilities (not as good as Falmouth, but almost). I'm prepared to chance sharing halls with some scary people like that for a year if i get to use facilities like that i think... oh and their camera rental department is huge, and mostly full of large nikon lenses, all that can be rented for free. wohoo! ;)

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 16:18

    I am sure you will raise the tone. Students are ment to be annoying to old folk like Stuart.

    Indeed so.

    …In the interests of balance I should point out that the occupants of the next house along, who are also students, clearly loathe them as well. There’s no fence between their gardens (same landlord owns both houses and failed to replace the fence when it collapsed) so when next-door-but-one threw a party the other night they attempted to build a barricade with furniture and clingfilm to prevent the chavs from gatecrashing.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:18

    Howdy everyone, I am 99% sure I'm leaving Bucks this year, just got to fill in paper work! Busy week!

    ooo! heading anywhere nice?

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:19

    …In the interests of balance I should point out that the occupants of the next house along, who are also students, clearly loathe them as well. There’s no fence between their gardens (same landlord owns both houses and failed to replace the fence when it collapsed) so when next-door-but-one threw a party the other night they attempted to build a barricade with furniture and clingfilm to prevent the chavs from gatecrashing.

    :D

  • Jon Waldock05/05/2010 at 16:19

    ooo! heading anywhere nice?

    Oxfooooooord

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:20

    Oxfooooooord

    nice :) the course you wanted to take last year?

  • Jon Waldock05/05/2010 at 16:20

    nice :) the course you wanted to take last year?

    yup :)

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:21

    yup :)

    ah that's great :)

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:26

    One thing that appealed to me was that there really wasn't any barriers between the different years, MA students helped out and were having coffee with first year BA students and everyone seemed to get on (in the photography section anyway). They also have a room with about 25 Macs in! and the most amazing film developing facilities (not as good as Falmouth, but almost). I'm prepared to chance sharing halls with some scary people like that for a year if i get to use facilities like that i think... oh and their camera rental department is huge, and mostly full of large nikon lenses, all that can be rented for free. wohoo! ;)

    So they have loads of Macs and huge lenses. What else could you possibly need?

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 16:27

    All of the photography students i met today seemed nice though.

    A girl in next-door-but-one has a clearly bizarre photographic project on the go. One night last October I saw lights outside and couldn’t help peeking. She had studio lights set up in the garden and was photographing some fellow lying on a mattress in just his pants. A month or two back they were at it again, this time in a howling gale and with him dressed in a silver leotard and a blond wig. Sadly, the shoot came to a premature end because the chavs had started to heckle…

    I'm prepared to chance sharing halls with some scary people like that for a year

    If you find yourself with disagreeable people you can always find somewhere else because there are plenty of accommodation options. The previous lot we had next door were nice enough…

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:27

    …In the interests of balance I should point out that the occupants of the next house along, who are also students, clearly loathe them as well. There’s no fence between their gardens (same landlord owns both houses and failed to replace the fence when it collapsed) so when next-door-but-one threw a party the other night they attempted to build a barricade with furniture and clingfilm to prevent the chavs from gatecrashing.

    This sounds a lot like a Dad's Army episode with added cling film.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:27

    So they have loads of Macs and huge lenses. What else could you possibly need?

    and they are close to Woking! :P

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:28

    and they are close to Woking! :P

    And Thruxton and Castle Combe(I think).

  • Jon Waldock05/05/2010 at 16:28

    I'm prepared to chance sharing halls with some scary people like that for a year

    If you find yourself with disagreeable people you can always find somewhere else because there are plenty of accommodation options. The previous lot we had next door were nice enough…

    You'll find that most people are lovely in halls, you'll always get a couple of people who aren't that nice but on the whole you'll find people to be very sociable

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:29

    A girl in next-door-but-one has a clearly bizarre photographic project on the go. One night last October I saw lights outside and couldn’t help peeking. She had studio lights set up in the garden and was photographing some fellow lying on a mattress in just his pants. A month or two back they were at it again, this time in a howling gale and with him dressed in a silver leotard and a blond wig. Sadly, the shoot came to a premature end because the chavs had started to heckle…

    hehe sounds interesting :)

    If you find yourself with disagreeable people you can always find somewhere else because there are plenty of accommodation options. The previous lot we had next door were nice enough…

    :) yeah if i get in i'm sure i'll manage.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:29

    And Thruxton and Castle Combe(I think).

    and nearish to brands... :D

  • Stuart C05/05/2010 at 16:32

    and nearish to brands...

    No need to venture that far. Your nearest motorsport venue is...

    http://www.spedeworth.co.uk/venue.php?name=aldershot

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:33

    No need to venture that far. Your nearest motorsport venue is...

    I haven't been to stock car racing in years.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:33

    No need to venture that far. Your nearest motorsport venue is...

    :) hehe and brooklands is kinda close too :) lol

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:35

    No need to venture that far. Your nearest motorsport venue is...

    There are also loads of karting tracks in the area

    http://www.karting.co.uk/Tracks/

  • Nick05/05/2010 at 16:36

    Evening all,

    I am sat in the most comfortable chair in the world :D

    and nearish to brands...

    No need to venture that far. Your nearest motorsport venue is...

    http://www.spe...ue.php?name=aldershot

    I never knew there was motorsport at aldershot? I could have gobe last year

  • Jon Waldock05/05/2010 at 16:38

    I am sat in the most comfortable chair in the world :D

    Do you also have Ducks to make it up to Alison?

  • Nick05/05/2010 at 16:40

    Do you also have Ducks to make it up to Alison?

    I have cushions... i got ones made from foam instead of ducks, does that count?

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 16:40

    I am sat in the most comfortable chair in the world :D

    Did you buy the chair that Alison didn't like?

  • Jon Waldock05/05/2010 at 16:40

    I have cushions... i got ones made from foam instead of ducks, does that count?

    It worries me that you considered ones made of ducks...

  • Nick05/05/2010 at 16:41

    Did you buy the chair that Alison didn't like?

    I got the L shaped sofa to appease her!

  • Nick05/05/2010 at 16:42

    I got the L shaped sofa to appease her!

    appease is probably a bad choise of word

    #oops

    #sorry!

  • lou05/05/2010 at 16:42

    There are also loads of karting tracks in the area

    it's almost the perfect location ;)

  • Nick05/05/2010 at 16:42

    It worries me that you considered ones made of ducks...

    Fortunatly ikea dont have them

    #stilldoesntlikeikea

  • Dan Brunell05/05/2010 at 16:57
  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 17:00

    Thank god. I didn't want to have to go to the Jersey Shore to watch a race. I love F1 but not that much.

    Someone posted that earlier. I think the whole thing was dreamt up to get Indy to stump up more cash. The whole idea was ridiculous

  • Nick05/05/2010 at 17:00

    Thank god. I didn't want to have to go to the Jersey Shore to watch a race. I love F1 but not that much.

    ...But you could have worn a muscle vest!

  • me05/05/2010 at 17:04

    am pretty sure we alex can find a use for this:

    Starting next week you will finally be able to video call with up to five people using [Skype's] Group Video Calling feature

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/skype-to-roll-out-five-way-video-calling-next-week-remote-party/

  • Dan Brunell05/05/2010 at 17:06

    Someone posted that earlier. I think the whole thing was dreamt up to get Indy to stump up more cash. The whole idea was ridiculous

    Agree. I'm still in shock from when Joe said that F1 passed up on buying the Long Beach race. That would of been the best option for all.

    ...But you could have worn a muscle vest!

    I don't have enough hair left to use the require amount of hair product. Plus, I really need to bulk up on the roids.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 17:07

    am pretty sure we alex can find a use for this:

    They waited till Kathi had left Finland before they launched it.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 17:10

    Agree. I'm still in shock from when Joe said that F1 passed up on buying the Long Beach race. That would of been the best option for all.

    Bernie should have hung on to Long Beach when F1 had a race there but he decided to play hard ball with Chris Pook when Pook told him he was going to do a deal with CART by a certain date if Bernie didn't sign. Bernie was so convinced that CART wasn't an option he waited for the date to pass so he could do a cheap deal. On the date concerned the CART deal was done and F1 lost an iconic race.

  • me05/05/2010 at 17:18

    am pretty sure we alex can find a use for this:

    They waited till Kathi had left Finland before they launched it.

    hehe!

  • Nick05/05/2010 at 17:22

    Its news to me, but perhaps not propperly, Di Resta will be comenting on 5 live which could be awesome

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 17:23

    evening folks

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 17:25

    Its news to me, but perhaps not propperly, Di Resta will be comenting on 5 live which could be awesome

    He did a session at the last race. He was really good

  • lou05/05/2010 at 17:25

    Its news to me, but perhaps not propperly, Di Resta will be comenting on 5 live which could be awesome

    wohooo!

  • Dan Brunell05/05/2010 at 17:26

    ... and F1 lost an iconic race.

    I'm glad that the only bad thing that happened with F1 in the states. It's been smooth sailing since...

    oh wait...

  • Dan Brunell05/05/2010 at 17:35

    He did a session at the last race. He was really good

    So if he was to get the seat, who would you move out Sutil or Luizzi? I can't make up my mind on that one.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 17:36

    There’s no fence between their gardens (same landlord owns both houses and failed to replace the fence when it collapsed)

    Stuart,

    are you sure it "collapsed"?

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 17:38

    Someone posted that earlier. I think the whole thing was dreamt up to get Indy to stump up more cash. The whole idea was ridiculous

    To be honest, there's no way it'll be Indy - the sisters will never fork out that kind of cash.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 17:39

    So if he was to get the seat, who would you move out Sutil or Luizzi? I can't make up my mind on that one.

    I am not sure. I have changed my mind a couple of times already this season.

  • RG05/05/2010 at 17:40

    So if he was to get the seat, who would you move out Sutil or Luizzi? I can't make up my mind on that one.

    Sutil.

    Liuzzi, had he had a bit more luck, would be miles ahead of him...

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 17:40

    So if he was to get the seat, who would you move out Sutil or Luizzi? I can't make up my mind on that one.

    I'd move Luizzi - I just don't think he's as fast and Sutil has reigned himself in a bit so far this season

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 17:44

    So if he was to get the seat, who would you move out Sutil or Luizzi? I can't make up my mind on that one.

    Liuzzi - on recent form.

  • RG05/05/2010 at 17:46

    Liuzzi - on recent form.

    In fairness, I don't think it would be fair on either of them to lose a seat, they've both been, alright so far...

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 17:46

    Just seen the tyre specs for the next four races - can't we just have super-super-soft and super-gripless-hard and be done with it?

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 17:47

    Just seen the tyre specs for the next four races - can't we just have super-super-soft and super-gripless-hard and be done with it?

    Can we have super-duper-so-soft-that-they-melt-when-left-in-the-sun?

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 17:48

    Can we have "Chewy like wine gums" spec tyres too?

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 17:48

    Can we have super-duper-so-soft-that-they-melt-when-left-in-the-sun?

    Are these the tyres that allow Silverstone to be lapped in 59 seconds and then effectively let no one go any faster than 3 minutes per lap thereafter?

    I like it!!

  • Dan Brunell05/05/2010 at 17:51

    Can we have "Chewy like wine gums" spec tyres too?

    Does this mean we can make jell-o a tire manufacturer.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 17:52

    Can we have "Chewy like wine gums" spec tyres too?

    Does this mean we can make jell-o a tire manufacturer.

    Would be great for rain tyres...

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 17:54

    Would be great for rain tyres...

    Aaaahh - for rain tyres, I would give the drivers bicycle tyres wrapped in clear plastic bags

  • Dan Brunell05/05/2010 at 17:54

    Would be great for rain tyres...

    That an idea for the tire regs for next year. You tires must be made out of food products that are consumable by a toothless man.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 17:54

    Would be great for rain tyres...

    That an idea for the tire regs for next year. You tires must be made out of food products that are consumable by a toothless man.

    How very green!

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 17:56

    That an idea for the tire regs for next year. You tires must be made out of food products that are consumable by a toothless man.

    We will need to decide on a dental organisation to fully define what a "toothless man" is? Plus we may need to address the toothless women's institute is well. They're based in Ipswich, so it's too far from me.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 17:59

    That an idea for the tire regs for next year. You tires must be made out of food products that are consumable by a toothless man.

    We will need to decide on a dental organisation to fully define what a "toothless man" is? Plus we may need to address the toothless women's institute is well. They're based in Ipswich, so it's too far from me.

    I am chewing on some Wine Gums now - they are very soft and sticky and I think it is the obvious answer to F1's tyre problems ;)

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:01

    Currently checking out party manifesto's for tomorrow's election. If I had a fire, I'd probably be burning the Tory one right now.

    I am chewing on some Wine Gums now - they are very soft and sticky and I think it is the obvious answer to F1's tyre problems ;)

    I'll put them under a match to see how what they're like under extreme temperatures

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 18:05

    Currently checking out party manifesto's for tomorrow's election. If I had a fire, I'd probably be burning the Tory one right now.

    Hmm. I've always been brought up to favour one party (which I have ended up supporting) but it seems like the choices are thus:

    (1) Vote for the party you like with the PM you hate

    (2) Vote for the PM you like but the party you hate

    (3) Vote for the party who sounds really good but has no chance of winning because the electoral system is so bad that most of the votes for them are wasted.

    Sounds like a bum deal to me!

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 18:05

    I know it is tricky, but don't forget we steer clear of politics talk here.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:06

    Hmm. I've always been brought up to favour one party (which I have ended up supporting) but it seems like the choices are thus:

    (1) Vote for the party you like with the PM you hate

    (2) Vote for the PM you like but the party you hate

    (3) Vote for the party who sounds really good but has no chance of winning because the electoral system is so bad that most of the votes for them are wasted.

    Sounds like a bum deal to me!

    Yeah, that sounds about right, except I'm not a Cameron fan at all and don't particularly go for some of the Tory policies

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:07

    Is there going to be a page for it on Friday? It will inevitably be the talk of the town...

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 18:08

    Is there going to be a page for it on Friday? It will inevitably be the talk of the town...

    Nope. No politics.

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 18:08

    I know it is tricky, but don't forget we steer clear of politics talk here.

    Ah fair enough. I was trying to be as generic as possible.

    On that note, Jake Humphrey tweeted something about filming something election-themed for the F1 coverage on Saturday...

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:08

    k

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:09

    On that note, Jake Humphrey tweeted something about filming something election-themed for the F1 coverage on Saturday...

    Are they going to be dressed in yellow, blue and red shirts? I can see Eddie wearing odd things, but Jake....

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 18:10

    On that note, Jake Humphrey tweeted something about filming something election-themed for the F1 coverage on Saturday...

    Are they going to be dressed in yellow, blue and red shirts? I can see Eddie wearing odd things, but Jake....

    There's no DC this weekend apparently...

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:10

    There's no DC this weekend apparently...

    Oh..?

    DTM??

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 18:11

    Wow. Skydiving madness: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1265891/Hold-think-youre-going-Skydiver-grabs-gliders-tail-fin-fly-2-100-metres-100mph.html

    Suprised it's Red BUll ;)

  • Dan Brunell05/05/2010 at 18:11

    On that note, Jake Humphrey tweeted something about filming something election-themed for the F1 coverage on Saturday...

    When has F1 ever been a democracy?

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 18:12

    I think Nick is avoiding me :P

    He's left his laptop charger at work and now can't talk to me anymore :(

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:14

    When has F1 ever been a democracy?

    It's an illusion

  • lou05/05/2010 at 18:14

    He's left his laptop charger at work and now can't talk to me anymore :(

    he needs a super awesome skype phone ;)

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 18:15

    I think Nick is avoiding me :P

    He's left his laptop charger at work and now can't talk to me anymore :(

    Because Nick is never absent-minded? ;)

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 18:18

    he needs a super awesome skype phone ;)

    :D :D :D :D :D

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 18:18

    He's left his laptop charger at work and now can't talk to me anymore :(

    he needs a super awesome skype phone ;)

    I have one of those ... it's the phone Mr. C. said I was clearest on...

  • lou05/05/2010 at 18:21

    :D :D :D :D :D

    oh Alison, am just editing some pics of ducks :P

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 18:22

    Oh..?

    DTM??

    I think Jake said something about Mille Miglia (sp?)

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 18:23

    Hello again btw. Went for a walk today & treated myself to a sherbert dip dab. Not had one for ages - took me back to my childhood (which I can just about remember ;))

  • lou05/05/2010 at 18:29

    I think Jake said something about Mille Miglia (sp?)

    is that what James Martin did last year? (and then did a tv programme about)?

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 18:30

    is that what James Martin did last year? (and then did a tv programme about)?

    I think so. From his tweets Chris Evans is doing it this year too.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:30

    is that what James Martin did last year? (and then did a tv programme about)?

    ahhhh... the great 1000 mile race - i kind of wish they raced it in 1920's/30's cars though...

    :)

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 18:32

    That an idea for the tire regs for next year. You tires must be made out of food products that are consumable by a toothless man.

    I'd like to see Scrutineering.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:34

    I'd like to see Scrutineering.

    Scrutineering will now take place at the post race banquet

  • me05/05/2010 at 18:41

    how could i have not known this?

    incorrect: http://www.markboulton.co.uk/images/uploads/incorrect_bullets.gif

    correct: http://www.markboulton.co.uk/images/uploads/correct_bullets.gif

    microsoft ruined my life

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 18:42

    how could i have not known this?

    incorrect: http://www.mar...incorrect_bullets.gif

    correct: http://www.mar...s/correct_bullets.gif

    microsoft ruined my life

    lawsuit??

  • me05/05/2010 at 18:43

    lawsuit??

    i think so. stupid word '95 (or whatever it was). actually, it may have been outlooks fault

  • lou05/05/2010 at 18:46

    how could i have not known this?

    incorrect: http://www.mar...incorrect_bullets.gif

    correct: http://www.mar...s/correct_bullets.gif

    microsoft ruined my life

    the second one is much harder to read though..

  • me05/05/2010 at 18:48

    the second one is much harder to read though..

    interesting. i find it easier. what about these two:

    http://www.markboulton.co.uk/images/uploads/incorrect_quotes.gif

    http://www.markboulton.co.uk/images/uploads/correct_quotes.gif

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 18:51

    how could i have not known this?

    Who says they are correct?

  • me05/05/2010 at 18:52

    Who says they are correct?

    typographers. i think.

    am reading this: http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/five-simple-steps-to-better-typography

  • lou05/05/2010 at 18:53

    interesting. i find it easier. what about these two:

    the first one is a bit easier, although i can read both of them okay in that example... it's probably my dyslexia, it's much much easier to distinguish the separate bullet points and quotes if they are laid out like that. It's much easier to digest the information and order it. it could be that it's what i've always learnt though..

  • lou05/05/2010 at 18:56

    am reading this: http://www.mar...-to-better-typography

    you're really getting into typography aren't you :)

  • me05/05/2010 at 18:57

    you're really getting into typography aren't you :)

    hehe. i seem to have a lot of spare time on my hands :)

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 18:58

    Who says they are correct?

    typographers. i think.

    am reading this: http://www.mar...-to-better-typography

    IMO there is no 'right' and 'wrong', there is only what has been before and what is now. Things like this are always evolving.

    This guy is indenting his text like a 19th Century novel.

  • me05/05/2010 at 18:59

    IMO there is no 'right' and 'wrong', there is only what has been before and what is now. Things like this are always evolving.

    This guy is indenting his text like a 19th Century novel.

    also true.

    but if what we have now is a result of the limitations of early computing, should we stick with it now those limitations no longer exist?

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 19:00

    but if what we have now is a result of the limitations of early computing, should we stick with it now those limitations no longer exist?

    If we want to.

  • me05/05/2010 at 19:02

    If we want to.

    it's interesting that i've spent the last ten years overriding css defaults which puts bullet points outside of the box, to make them more like an "outlook list"

    i assumed it was just a rubbish default setting

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 19:07

    it's interesting that i've spent the last ten years overriding css defaults which puts bullet points outside of the box, to make them more like an "outlook list"

    I think it is what most people expect now, right or not

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 19:08

    The VivaF1 quiz starts in 23 minutes.

    Just enough time for a shower and to put the oven on, am quite hungry now. Stupid shopping delayed me. :)

  • me05/05/2010 at 19:08

    I think it is what most people expect now, right or not

    would it be annoying if it was different. or just different?

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 19:09

    would it be annoying if it was different. or just different?

    No idea, would have to see it in action I think

  • lou05/05/2010 at 19:11

    hehe. i seem to have a lot of spare time on my hands :)

    :)

    i know you said you like Jonsi.. and if anyone as a few moments this is an awesome article about him

    http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2010/04/the-unbearable-lightness-of-being-jonsi.html

  • me05/05/2010 at 19:12

    i know you said you like Jonsi.. and if anyone as a few moments this is an awesome article about him

    ooh ta

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 19:13

    how could i have not known this?

    incorrect: http://www.mar...incorrect_bullets.gif

    correct: http://www.mar...s/correct_bullets.gif

    microsoft ruined my life


    No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No.

  • me05/05/2010 at 19:14

    No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No.

    no?

  • Christine05/05/2010 at 19:14

    no?

    No.

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 19:14

    don't know if anyone has put this up yet, but webber's barcelona lap is up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3PsUJqaK5M

    good stuff, but i still hate that chicane prior to the final corner - an awful abomination of a thing

  • me05/05/2010 at 19:15

    no?

    No.

    *quickly clicks undo*

  • lou05/05/2010 at 19:15

    No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No.

    :D :D

  • RubberGoat05/05/2010 at 19:20

    Good night guys - I think the combined 15km cycling today has really tired me out!

  • me05/05/2010 at 19:21

    Good night guys - I think the combined 15km cycling today has really tired me out!

    night chap

  • lou05/05/2010 at 19:21

    Good night guys - I think the combined 15km cycling today has really tired me out!

    night Gavin!

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 19:22

    night gavin

  • startledbunny05/05/2010 at 19:22

    night Gavin

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 19:35

    Ping: -> Mark Webber Drives the Circuit de Catalunya

    http://theformulaoneandmotorsportsarchive.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/mark-webber-drives-the-circuit-de-catalunya/

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 19:36

    Night Gavin

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 19:36

    There aren't many takers in the quiz tonight

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 19:51

    Post my shiny phone now please!!! :(

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 19:56

    Ping: -> Mark Webber Drives the Circuit de Catalunya

    http://theform...circuit-de-catalunya/

    Thanks Leigh.

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 19:56

    Post my shiny phone now please!!! :(

    I'm sure it will come soon, I thought you only ordered it this morning?

  • lou05/05/2010 at 19:58

    Post my shiny phone now please!!! :(

    a question about your shiny new awesome phone... does it have a camera?

  • lou05/05/2010 at 20:05

    Alison, i have a pic of a duck that looks like it's smiling... i thought you should see it :)

    http://twitpic.com/1lbywf

  • Janna05/05/2010 at 20:06

    Alison, i have a pic of a duck that looks like it's smiling... i thought you should see it :)

    That's a really cute picture :)

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 20:07

    Alison, i have a pic of a duck that looks like it's smiling... i thought you should see it :)

    Mr Duck is the best duck ever :)

  • lou05/05/2010 at 20:08

    Mr Duck is the best duck ever :)

    my mum and aunt now know about your knowledge of birds btw :D

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 20:08

    There aren't many takers in the quiz tonight

    Sorry Pat, I've had too much to do this evening to take part and general mood upon arriving home from work not long ago was not the best to concentrate on quiz :( will defo be back in there next week though.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 20:11

    Sorry Pat, I've had too much to do this evening to take part and general mood upon arriving home from work not long ago was not the best to concentrate on quiz :( will defo be back in there next week though.

    Don't worry, means I hopefully have a chance :)

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 20:12

    Mr Duck is the best duck ever :)

    Did you have an anthropormorphic drama?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js4GepPNQro

    :)

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 20:17

    Did you have an anthropormorphic drama?

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=js4GepPNQro

    :)

    Quackquackquackquack... :)

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 20:46

    Woooo happy times. I has dispatch email. Magic shiny phone will be mine tomorrow. Plus I think my cashback has tracked. It's amazing times :D

  • lou05/05/2010 at 20:56

    Woooo happy times. I has dispatch email. Magic shiny phone will be mine tomorrow. Plus I think my cashback has tracked. It's amazing times :D

    :D

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 20:56

    I also bought a new tax disk. Today might be the most efficient day of my life :P

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 21:02

    Rencken article about falling race attendances, says Flav has been proven right.. the trend is either to not attend or to buy a lower priced ticket..

    http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2781

    (sub req)

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 21:08

    Spot 5 differences:

    http://i43.tinypic.com/nzow2d.png

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:09

    Spot 5 differences:

    http://i43.tinypic.com/nzow2d.png

    wohoo!!

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:10

    i wish my parents wouldn't keep coming into the study to talk to me... they keep giving me heart attacks.. my headphones are too good at blocking out sound from the outside world.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 21:16

    i wish my parents wouldn't keep coming into the study to talk to me... they keep giving me heart attacks.. my headphones are too good at blocking out sound from the outside world.

    They'll come in and read that in a minute :)

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:19

    Spot 5 differences:

    http://i43.tinypic.com/nzow2d.png

    i can't find the last one!

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 21:20

    i can't find the last one!

    me neither, I have 4...

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:20

    i can't find the last one!

    i found it!!!

    that was a mean one.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 21:20

    i can't find the last one!

    me neither, I have 4...

    I only got four

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:21

    me neither, I have 4...

    the last one is such a small difference it's almost impossible to see.

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 21:21

    the last one is such a small difference it's almost impossible to see.

    There's one on a logo which is really small, I saw that..

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:22

    There's one on a logo which is really small, I saw that..

    there is another one like that (only slightly more obvious).. which was the other tricky one for me.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 21:26

    I totally cannot find it!

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:29

    I totally cannot find it!

    do you want a clue?

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 21:30

    do you want a clue?

    go on then...

  • RG05/05/2010 at 21:30

    I only got four

    I'm on 2, totally not focused though. Annoyingly I think I found the hardest one first as I usually do.

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 21:33

    I'm on 2, totally not focused though. Annoyingly I think I found the hardest one first as I usually do.

    to be fair you're spotting the difference between 4rd and 5th place :p

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 21:34

    I have the answers link if you want to be left to your own willpower..

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:34

    go on then...

    *tries to come up with a clue that doesn't give it away*

    eeerrrrrr........

  • RG05/05/2010 at 21:35

    to be fair you're spotting the difference between 4rd and 5th place :p

    :D

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:37

    go on then...

    if it's the one i'm thinking of that you haven't got.. it's says something important... not that we can understand what it says... but it does.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:38

    and to distract from that frankly awful clue...

    I have some photos for you all to have a look at. Some of my best from Hampton court on Sunday

    - http://www.flickr.com/photos/loujohnson/sets/72157623875863727/

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:40

    I have some photos for you all to have a look at. Some of my best from Hampton court on SundayMonday

    i don't even know what day of the week it is today lol

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 21:43

    Spot 5 differences:

    http://i43.tinypic.com/nzow2d.png

    Answers are here, make sure you don't click this until you've at least had a go :)

    (they aren't hidden as they sometimes are so you can't do the rest of the quiz)

    http://www.vivaf1.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1904

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 21:43

    Evening all

  • RG05/05/2010 at 21:44

    Evening all

    Hey Mr Steven.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:44

    Evening all

    hello

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 21:45

    Evening all

    Hi

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 21:48

    well everyone,

    i'm back - any change since earlier on?

    :)

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 21:48

    Great pics Lou. Hampton Court looks a lot like Versailles.

    I am not a fan of flower pictures but the first three pics all work. The sticky out petal is great and the hanging/drooping aspect of the first two works really well.

  • lou05/05/2010 at 21:51

    I am not a fan of flower pictures but the first three pics all work. The sticky out petal is great and the hanging/drooping aspect of the first two works really well.

    :) thank you

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 21:58

    Hello Steeeeven

    I am super organised today. Plus I have tomorrow off. It's good times. It's fine though. Nick has been very disorganised. So there's no universal unbalance or anything.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 22:01

    I am super organised today. Plus I have tomorrow off. It's good times. It's fine though. Nick has been very disorganised. So there's no universal unbalance or anything.

    I worry about organised people. How is the finger? Oh and did Nick say anything about a chair?

  • Alex Andronov05/05/2010 at 22:04

    #nothere

    But this might be my last chance for a few days to remind you all that I'm not here for a radio show on Sunday and also that the Pole Poll is available from now here:

    http://sofaf1.com/2010/05/05/spain-pole-poll-5/

  • RG05/05/2010 at 22:05

    Bed for me, not sure how I'll get any sleep, but we'll see. Night and lotsa love

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 22:05

    I worry about organised people. How is the finger? Oh and did Nick say anything about a chair?

    We don't talk about that (the finger or the chair....)

  • Leigh O'Gorman05/05/2010 at 22:05

    night RG

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 22:06

    Night RG

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 22:06

    We don't talk about that (the finger or the chair....)

    Good plan

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 22:10

    #nothere

    But this might be my last chance for a few days to remind you all that I'm not here for a radio show on Sunday and also that the Pole Poll is available from now here:

    http://sofaf1....05/spain-pole-poll-5/

    Ta

  • Alianora La Canta05/05/2010 at 22:16

    but hamilton was around last year, and still no friday drivers

    Did a rule change? {Comment #237}

    The rule changed back in 2008 - anyone with a superlicence may participate in FP1 and/or FP2 without needing to be the driver entered for the race. However until the mid-season spate of replacements/substitutions last year, all the teams thought the extra time their race drivers got to prepare for the circuit outweighed the benefits of preparing a young driver for the rigours of the race ahead of time.

    Now teams (well, some of them) begin to see the wisdom of having drivers other than their racers get seat time in weekends.

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 22:18

    Now teams (well, some of them) begin to see the wisdom of having drivers other than their racers get seat time in weekends.

    Thanks Alianora

  • Alianora La Canta05/05/2010 at 22:20

    Thanks Alianora {Comment #472}

    You're welcome. Steven :)

  • lou05/05/2010 at 22:20

    right, bed time for me. night all! xx

  • Steven Roy05/05/2010 at 22:21

    right, bed time for me. night all! xx

    Night Lou

  • Lukeh05/05/2010 at 22:21

    right, bed time for me. night all! xx

    Nighty night

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 22:25

    right, bed time for me. night all! xx

    night

  • Bassano05/05/2010 at 22:58

    Evening all

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 22:59

    Evening all

    Evening

    I'm testing new Spotify. It is rather good.

  • Alison05/05/2010 at 23:04

    Evening all

    Hiiiiiiiiii

  • me05/05/2010 at 23:05

    Evening

    I'm testing new Spotify. It is rather good.

    how is it different?

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 23:07

    Evening

    I'm testing new Spotify. It is rather good.

    how is it different?

    It can track your music collection either from iTunes or WMP playlists or by scanning your hard drive. Then you can make new playlists with your stuff in amongst the stuff available on their service.

    Then it taps in to your Facebook profile (if you tell it to) and you can share your tracks and playlists with them, and you can view playlists they've made available, and you can collectively create one between you. Apparently works without Facebook if you give people your profile name

  • me05/05/2010 at 23:08

    It can track your music collection either from iTunes or WMP playlists or by scanning your hard drive. Then you can make new playlists with your stuff in amongst the stuff available on their service.

    Then it taps in to your Facebook profile (if you tell it to) and you can share your tracks and playlists with them, and you can view playlists they've made available, and you can collectively create one between you. Apparently works without Facebook if you give people your profile name

    ooh, hadn't heard about that. cheers

  • Pat W05/05/2010 at 23:10

    Evening

    I'm testing new Spotify. It is rather good.

    how is it different?

    Or just watch this: https://www.spotify.com/uk/about/social/