Hello.

The big news on the site at the moment is the ongoing discussion about the future of these here Daily posts. Head over to the thread and let us know what you think. As you might expect there are well-reasoned arguments from each perspective.

I assume you've listened to the latest Debrief by now? You haven't? It has been out since Tuesday, what's wrong with you?

I loved the insight into the FIA stewards room from this weekend's guest steward Allan McNish, following his experiences in Monaco. It is an Autosport.com paywall article though, so sorry if you don't have a subscription. Worth getting a sub to the .com site even if the mag isn't your thing, the features section has had some really solid articles lately. I've just noticed Dieter Rencken has a new post arguing in favour of in-season testing, I'll note that here for some lunchtime reading at work!

Joe Saward has in the last couple of days posted three interesting articles on his blog. I liked the one debunking all the 'fluff' on most of the F1 news sites at the moment (and you have to assume he - rightly - includes the aforementioned Autosport in there). There are also stories on the future of Spa and some talk on movements within the teams. I'm sure you know by now to check Joe's site daily.

Racing Options

If the Hungaroring as a circuit isn't to your tastes there's a lot of other things going on this weekend. Rally Finland is a bit of a mad one, very fast and very narrow lanes. Leigh is at Spa this weekend so keep an eye on his tweets and blog.

  • F1 - Hungaroring (get your Race Info!)
  • GP2+GP3 - Hungaroring
  • WRC - Rally Finland
  • NASCAR Cup - Indianapolis
  • 24 Hours of Spa (for GT2, GT3, GT4) - Spa-Franchorchamps
  • F3 International Trophy - Spa-Franchorchamps
  • World Superbike - Silverstone
  • WTCC - Oschersleben
  • AutoGP - Oschersleben

However, I won't be doing many of those because it is my Dad's birthday on Saturday and we're going to the Thai restaurant, where hopefully we won't drink too much... ah who am I kidding?

Also my sister is on a brief visit from Spain and I've not seen her since New Year, so it would be silly to waste that watching racing although I do plan to watch the F1. On Monday we're taking our younger sister to Thorpe Park where I'll try and avoid going on the rides which have a big drop because I hate heights..

361 responses

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:35

    Boom, sorry 'tis late, I wrote more than I thought I would and was distracted reading stuff

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 00:37

    busy weekend of racing! what's autogp?

    cheers for the daily sir.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 00:39

    that is a great post from joe. i particularly love some of the comments. someone stumbled across grandprixdiary.com and left quite confused (always a danger with satire):

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/some-thoughts-on-the-news-in-f1/#comment-60430

  • lou28/07/2011 at 00:39

    Oh my goodness look at all that racing! it's a good thing i've got nothing to do this weekend, i sense a motorsport weekend! wohoo! Thanks for the daily Pat :) Best of luck at Thorpe Park, i've so far managed to avoid that place :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:40

    busy weekend of racing! what's autogp?

    They use the original A1GP car (not the Ferrari one), took all the cool-looking aero stylng off it so it acts like a normal single seater, and added more power.

    But it could be called Yet Another Junior Single Seater Series Somewhere Between GP2 and GP3/F3. It has Eurosport coverage though so it could become bigger, I think people have high hopes for it.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 00:40

    I loved the insight into the FIA stewards room from this weekend's guest steward Allan McNish, following his experiences in Monaco.

    I'm very interested to read this. Is it worth subscribing for?

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 00:41

    But it could be called Yet Another Junior Single Seater Series Somewhere Between GP2 and GP3/F3. It has Eurosport coverage though so it could become bigger, I think people have high hopes for it.

    had completely escaped me.

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 00:41

    Hello Sidepodpeople.... :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:41

    I'm very interested to read this. Is it worth subscribing for?

    Depends how much the subs are, I'm not sure I'd pay a full sub just for one article, but I have a feeling from some tweets that they've been playing with micropayments? Dunno how you'd do that.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 00:41

    Also my sister is on a brief visit from Spain

    Please thank her again for her help with international teaching. :)

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 00:41

    I'm very interested to read this. Is it worth subscribing for?

    89p per article. no subs necessary.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 00:42

    Depends how much the subs are, I'm not sure I'd pay a full sub just for one article, but I have a feeling from some tweets that they've been playing with micropayments? Dunno how you'd do that.

    I'll check it. Thanks.

  • lou28/07/2011 at 00:42

    It has Eurosport coverage though so it could become bigger, I think people have high hopes for it.

    ohhhh!!! do you possibly have a link for timings etc? would be really interested to give that a go.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 00:42

    Depends how much the subs are, I'm not sure I'd pay a full sub just for one article, but I have a feeling from some tweets that they've been playing with micropayments? Dunno how you'd do that.

    if you're not logged in, you pay by the article via paypal.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 00:42

    89p per article. no subs necessary.

    $1 for me. ;)

    I may just go ahead and do that.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:42

    had completely escaped me.

    Easily done

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:42

    Hello Sidepodpeople.... :)

    Hi Guille how's the volcano? :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:43

    Please thank her again for her help with international teaching. :)

    will do

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 00:43

    Hello Sidepodpeople.... :)

    Hi Guille

  • lou28/07/2011 at 00:43

    Hello Sidepodpeople.... :)

    Hey Guille! how's things with you?

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 00:44

    Hi Guille how's the volcano? :)

    Not bad, just dying away. A bit of dust in the air and several millon tonnes of sand in the ground, but not much more than that right now

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 00:47

    Hey Guille! how's things with you?

    Hi Lou! I've just handed my PhD thesis to the jury yesterday, so you can say I'm a free man again :D

    Sorry not to be here for the last 6 months, I had a self-imposed censorship on anything not related to the thesis :(

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:47

    ohhhh!!! do you possibly have a link for timings etc? would be really interested to give that a go.

    This is the website. http://www.autogp.org/en/

    The only problem with it is the drivers who are mostly nobodies whereas other things at that level have some known quantities. Luca Fillipi (ex-GP2) and Jon Lancaster (ex-WSR) are the names I spotted in the entry list. And Patrick Tambay's son but I've no idea if he's any good or not.

    And Oschersleben is not a good circuit.

    But otherwise I'm sure it's fine. :) I've not actually watched any of it yet.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:48

    Not bad, just dying away. A bit of dust in the air and several millon tonnes of sand in the ground, but not much more than that right now

    That's good..

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:49

    This is the website. http://www.autogp.org/en/

    Timetable is on the WTCC website - PDF

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 00:50

    That's good..

    lets wait 'till summer. I sense big dust storms in a few months... ;-)

  • lou28/07/2011 at 00:50

    The only problem with it is the drivers who are mostly nobodies whereas other things at that level have some known quantities. Luca Fillipi (ex-GP2) and Jon Lancaster (ex-WSR) are the names I spotted in the entry list. And Patrick Tambay's son but I've no idea if he's any good or not.

    i'll pick a random favourite and hope for the best :D

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:52

    i'll pick a random favourite and hope for the best :D

    :)

    Remember to subtract an hour from the timetable, and you're at the whim of Eurosport's arbitrary scheduling where the EPG is merely a suggestion...

  • lou28/07/2011 at 00:52

    Hi Lou! I've just handed my PhD thesis to the jury yesterday, so you can say I'm a free man again :D

    ohhh best of luck with the results!! :) hope you've got lots of lovely things planned as a treat!

    Sorry not to be here for the last 6 months, I had a self-imposed censorship on anything not related to the thesis :(

    i'm sure it will all be worth it in the end :)

  • lou28/07/2011 at 00:54

    Remember to subtract an hour from the timetable, and you're at the whim of Eurosport's arbitrary scheduling where the EPG is merely a suggestion...

    right, done and done. no doubt i'll forget on saturday but i'll set a reminder on my mac and hope for the best :)

  • lou28/07/2011 at 00:54

    right, i must bid you all goodnight. *hugs* x

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 00:55

    Hi Lou! I've just handed my PhD thesis to the jury yesterday, so you can say I'm a free man again :D

    Good luck

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 00:55

    ohhh best of luck with the results!! :)

    thanks!

    hope you've got lots of lovely things planned as a treat!

    That kind of thoughts were essential to keep me sane :P

    I'm seriously thinking in buying some new glass, just because... :)

    (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009XVCZ)

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 00:56

    night lou

  • lou28/07/2011 at 00:56

    I'm seriously thinking in buying some new glass, just because... :)

    do it!! .. because i can't ;)

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 00:58

    Good luck

    thanks!

    oral defence is at the beginning of september, that's the last step

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 00:58

    do it!! .. because i can't ;)

    OK :)

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 01:03

    Hi Lou! I've just handed my PhD thesis to the jury yesterday, so you can say I'm a free man again :D

    PhD. Goshdarn. Doctor of Motorsport? :D

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 01:07

    PhD. Goshdarn. Doctor of Motorsport? :D

    Physics. And not in any way related now or in the future to the physics of racecars, sadly. Although I'm still young, I can switch subjects...

  • Amy28/07/2011 at 01:09

    that is a great post from joe. i particularly love some of the comments. someone stumbled across grandprixdiary.com and left quite confused (always a danger with satire):

    I went right off GPD after Silverstone where he tweeted the username of every single F1 person he'd hung out with to the point where it took up 2-3 tweets. I'm all for going into the paddock and having fun but do you have to namedrop so massively?

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 01:11

    I went right off GPD after Silverstone where he tweeted the username of every single F1 person he'd hung out with to the point where it took up 2-3 tweets. I'm all for going into the paddock and having fun but do you have to namedrop so massively?

    That's the part about him I don't like.

  • Amy28/07/2011 at 01:13

    That's the part about him I don't like.

    we were talking about it last night about his twitter used to be really funny but now its 99% back and forth with Tom Webb etc. I see he tweeted the other day something about seriously thinking Heikki is one of the best drivers. Even I don't think that :D

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 01:15

    That's the part about him I don't like.

    we were talking about it last night about his twitter used to be really funny but now its 99% back and forth with Tom Webb etc. I see he tweeted the other day something about seriously thinking Heikki is one of the best drivers. Even I don't think that :D

    on the one hand i agree, but on the other his twitter profile reads: F1 blogger and blagger....

    so i admire the honestly.

  • Amy28/07/2011 at 01:19

    so i admire the honestly.

    thats true.

    I think I'll come back from Korea and say I had a great time with Lotus, not I had a great time with Lotus, Heikki, Catherine, Mike, Silvi, Tony, Anna, any other lotus twitter user who I can't currently think of etc etc.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 01:20

    I think I'll come back from Korea and say I had a great time with Lotus, not I had a great time with Lotus, Heikki, Catherine, Mike, Silvi, Tony, Anna, any other lotus twitter user who I can't currently think of etc etc.

    and that's why i follow your tweets ;)

  • Amy28/07/2011 at 01:25

    and that's why i follow your tweets

    hopefully I won't be tweeting about rain. It's raining so much in South Korea at the moment people have died.

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 01:32

    hopefully I won't be tweeting about rain. It's raining so much in South Korea at the moment people have died.

    you might be tweeting about Rain if you see him there.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_(entertainer)

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 01:32

    you might be tweeting about Rain if you see him there.

    :)

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 01:33

    you might be tweeting about Rain if you see him there.

    hehe

    He looks much, much younger than 29.

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 01:39

    I think I'll come back from Korea and say I had a great time with Lotus, not I had a great time with Lotus, Heikki, Catherine, Mike, Silvi, Tony, Anna, any other lotus twitter user who I can't currently think of etc etc.

    mmmm.... I seriously doubt you'll not mention the great time you've spent with heikki and catherine. ;-)

  • Amy28/07/2011 at 02:26

    you might be tweeting about Rain if you see him there.

    he was in Malaysia. I did not care. :D

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 03:00

    I got the prints that I ordered of my trip today. I love them! I'm sooo happy with the quality of the pics from my new camera. Did you order prints of any of your trips, Amy, or do you keep them in digital form?

  • Amy28/07/2011 at 05:26

    I got the prints that I ordered of my trip today. I love them! I'm sooo happy with the quality of the pics from my new camera. Did you order prints of any of your trips, Amy, or do you keep them in digital form?

    At the moment just digital but one day I'd like to get some prints and make some nice albums.

  • Sidepodcast Update28/07/2011 at 05:45
  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 08:24

    morning

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 08:35

    England's away kit is black at the Rugby World Cup.. which is in NZ. This is surely a heinous crime, only one team should be allowed that.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/14319606.stm

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 08:36

    Hooray - early forecast of decent weather at Spa this weekend

  • James28/07/2011 at 08:41

    England's away kit is black at the Rugby World Cup.. which is in NZ. This is surely a heinous crime, only one team should be allowed that.

    news.bbc.co.uk/sp…nion/14319606.stm

    Yet the article doesn't included a single picture, not helpful. Found one here: http://www.fanhouse.co.uk/2011/07/15/one-reason-why-england-adopting-an-all-black-kit-may-not-be-a-go/

    Don't see the issue personally, it has bits of red and they won't wear it if they play New Zealand.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 08:43

    Complete head scratcher...

    Why on Earth is yet another Joy Division / New Order comp being released? Surely anyone that would have ever bought it has bought this four times over.

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 08:49

    England's away kit is black at the Rugby World Cup.. which is in NZ. This is surely a heinous crime, only one team should be allowed that.

    NZ play in white, if they didnt, i think the complaints might have some validity

    As it stands its just hypocritical whingeing

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 08:49

    England's away kit is black at the Rugby World Cup.. which is in NZ. This is surely a heinous crime, only one team should be allowed that.

    news.bbc.co.uk/sp…nion/14319606.stm

    Yet the article doesn't included a single picture, not helpful. Found one here: www.fanhouse.co.u…-may-not-be-a-go/

    Don't see the issue personally, it has bits of red and they won't wear it if they play New Zealand.

    Oh that's not too bad. Just for me the All Blacks are iconic across all sports not just rugby, it seems a bit off to turn up in their back yard wearing their colours.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 08:51

    Oh that's not too bad. Just for me the All Blacks are iconic across all sports not just rugby, it seems a bit off to turn up in their back yard wearing their colours.

    And it isn't the same as turning up in blue in France for example..

  • James28/07/2011 at 09:01

    Oh that's not too bad. Just for me the All Blacks are iconic across all sports not just rugby, it seems a bit off to turn up in their back yard wearing their colours.

    It also looks like a dark shade of grey, rather than black.

    Give it a couple of years and the 'away' shirt will be different colour.

    Lot of fuss over nothing.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 09:02

    Lot of fuss over nothing.

    Pretty good way to get the clothing supplier's name in the papers I suppose :)

  • James28/07/2011 at 09:03

    Pretty good way to get the clothing supplier's name in the papers I suppose :)

    Hehe. very true and also help shift the stockpiles of replica shirts that they've got ;)

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 09:28

    File this under "No surprise there."

    Sauber retains Kobayashi and Perez for 2012

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 09:28

    File this under "No surprise there."

    Sauber retains Kobayashi and Perez for 2012

    What . A . Shock

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 09:29

    What . A . Shock

    Next year will be fun, though, I think - I reckon at least one top-level driver contract will be bought out/terminated early.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 09:30

    Next year will be fun, though, I think - I reckon at least one top-level driver contract will be bought out/terminated early.

    So......

    Kobayashi for Massa

    or

    Perez for Massa

    ??

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 09:31

    Perez for Massa

    That one. And I'm guessing Kobayashi for... Button. Wild guess, but just throwing it out there.

  • James28/07/2011 at 09:31

    Next year will be fun, though, I think - I reckon at least one top-level driver contract will be bought out/terminated early.

    So......

    Kobayashi for Massa

    or

    Perez for Massa

    ??

    Perez makes the most sense as he's part of their young driver program.

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 09:33

    Kobayashi for Massa

    Kobyashi to McLaren, although Red Bull might be a better home

  • James28/07/2011 at 09:34

    Kobyashi to McLaren, although Red Bull might be a better home

    or Williams if they get their act together in the next couple of years.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 09:38

    Am feeling another short burst of random trivia questions in a while if anybody is interested

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 10:34

    ping: http://www.f1minute.com/news/kobayashi-and-prez-confirmed-at-sauber-for-2012

  • Mav28/07/2011 at 10:37

    ping: http://www.vivaf1.com/blog/?p=7793 The 1936 Hungarian Grand Prix

  • Mav28/07/2011 at 10:43

    ping: Hungarian Quiz while I remember, don't think I mentioned it last night: http://www.vivaf1.com/blog/?p=7595

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 10:45

    http://twitter.com/#!/NobleF1/statuses/96531158707347456

    wow, I hope I will be able to avoid that one. I thought they can't do worse than Backstreet Boys but obviously they can :-)

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 10:46

    twitter.com/#!/No…96531158707347456

    wow, I hope I will be able to avoid that one. I thought they can't do worse than Backstreet Boys but obviously they can :-)

    Hahaaaa...

    Rick Astley followed by Massive Attack (DJ Set) - how different can you get?

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 10:48

    Rick Astley followed by Massive Attack (DJ Set) - how different can you get?

    good thing is Singapore has more to offer outside the track

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 10:54

    Rick Astley followed by Massive Attack (DJ Set) - how different can you get?

    Do you have to sit through the first to watch the second? :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 10:55

    Do you have to sit through the first to watch the second? :)

    Yes

    ;)

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 11:00

    Do you have to sit through the first to watch the second? :)

    :-)

    the good thing in Singapore is that these giggs are kind of walk in (those that are within the track). so you watch what you want, skip what you don't want to watch. problem are those that are between the track entrance and your grandstand. if you decide to enter the track in wrong time you find yourself at the backstreet boys concert. one of the worst experience ever, still ashamed :-)

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 11:16

    this looks like a sensationalist post made of summer boredom ....

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93423

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 11:18

    this looks like a sensationalist post made of summer boredom ....

    www.autosport.com…port.php/id/93423

    7 years. in that time honda could rejoin and then quit f1 again.

    what nonsense.

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 11:19

    what nonsense.

    Auto Moto und Sport - very GMM-ish

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 11:20

    7 years. in that time honda could rejoin and then quit f1 again.

    what nonsense.

    Yes, because the world doesn't change at all in 7 years. What a waste of time.

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 11:28

    Yes, because the world doesn't change at all in 7 years. What a waste of time.

    If I am not mistaken during the British GP somebody (was it Whitmarsh ?) mentioned that whole V4 turbo plan was there because VW wanted in in case V4s are the way to go ...

    how does that info match this latest news I have no idea. or do they know what we want, does this mean F1 will go V4 turbo from 2018 ? that seems to be the real news here if read between the lines :-)

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 11:29

    If I am not mistaken during the British GP somebody (was it Whitmarsh ?) mentioned that whole V4 turbo plan was there because VW wanted in in case V4s are the way to go ...

    T'was Newey

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 11:29

    If I am not mistaken during the British GP somebody (was it Whitmarsh ?) mentioned that whole V4 turbo plan was there because VW wanted in in case V4s are the way to go ...

    Straight 4s was the plan, v4s are a pretty unusual engine

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 11:31

    T'was Newey

    yes, Newey, now I remember

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 11:44

    this looks like a sensationalist post made of summer boredom ....

    clutching at straws much? 2018 is such a random number.

  • Sidepodcast Update28/07/2011 at 11:45
  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 11:49

    this looks like a sensationalist post made of summer boredom ....

    More proof f1 has gotten boring...

    Its been getting to corporate these past 2 years.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 11:49

    Its been getting to corporate these past 2 years.

    2 years..??

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 11:50

    2 years..??

    yep, give me back the politics & fun of 2009

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 11:51

    yep, give me back the politics & fun of 2009

    Never been able to separate politics and corporate interests in F1. They're one and the same surely?

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 11:55

    Never been able to separate politics and corporate interests in F1. They're one and the same surely?

    Different beasts.

    Corporatism seems to have forced most of F1s politics behind closed doors.

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 11:55

    the weather in Hungary must be seriously bad when you see/hear all the British journalist complaining about that :-)

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 11:57

    Corporatism seems to have forced most of F1s politics behind closed doors.

    ... when there are millions to billions involved you can't expect it to be "corporate" free ...

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 11:58

    Corporatism seems to have forced most of F1s politics behind closed doors.

    They only come out every 20 years or so, normally. Once in the 60s, once in the 80s, and once in the 2000s. ;)

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 11:58

    ... when there are millions to billions involved you can't expect it to be "corporate" free ...

    Ironicly there was probably more money around in 09 :D

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 12:03

    Ironicly there was probably more money around in 09 :D

    Actually I have a feeling that the difference may not be as big as we may be lead to believe ...

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:06

    i think USP content picked the wrong pitlane reporter:

    Not in Hungary this w/end as in Bonnie Scotland for a great mate's wedding...I'll try to listen to quali on my little radio in the church!

    oh dear.

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:08

    oh dear.

    Good news, we get Jennie Gow... she should get lees job

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 12:08

    i think USP content picked the wrong pitlane reporter:

    Frankly I find this ridiculous. If I were the boss I would not approve the leave.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:09

    Frankly I find this ridiculous. If I were the boss I would not approve the leave.

    it's hungary, she got a terrible case of the "brundles".

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:10

    Frankly I find this ridiculous. If I were the boss I would not approve the leave.

    maybe they should put her on indefinite leave without pay ;)

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:12

    maybe they should put her on indefinite leave without pay ;)

    two races missed in a 19 race season. on the one hand - ideal season, on the other, not a great start to your debut year.

  • lou28/07/2011 at 12:12

    oh dear.

    oh goodness not again!! she's got a wonderful new job and she's already missed the same number of races i remember Holly missing in the few years i listened to her.

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 12:12

    maybe they should put her on indefinite leave without pay ;)

    Maybe for jobs like these there should be clauses in contracts making it clear that other health reasons or compassionate leaves there is no way to skip the race weekend ... Take it or leave it

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:13

    oh goodness not again!! she's got a wonderful new job and she's already missed the same number of races i remember Holly missing in the few years i listened to her.

    she's missed more races in 6 months than joe in two decades.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:13

    Maybe for jobs like these there should be clauses in contracts making it clear that other health reasons or compassionate leaves there is no way to skip the race weekend ... Take it or leave it

    that's what they said to brundle when he moved from itv.

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 12:13

    maybe they should put her on indefinite leave without pay ;)

    I would ... without hesitation

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:14

    wow, you people are harsh :)

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 12:15

    it's hungary, she got a terrible case of the "brundles".

    The Brundles! :D

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:15

    wow, you people are harsh :)

    a friends wedding is a poor excuse. get better friends.

    :)

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 12:16

    wow, you people are harsh :)

    This is not harsh, this is the reality of the job, people should not take jobs that require weekend work if they are not willing to work those weekends. Jobs like these come with price

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:17

    two races missed in a 19 race season. on the one hand - ideal season, on the other, not a great start to your debut year.

    Taking leave now suggests to me she might not be enjoying it that much, wouldnt be supprised if she isnt there next year

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:17

    Taking leave now suggests to me she might not be enjoying it that much, wouldnt be supprised if she isnt there next year

    agreed. poor show.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:18

    This is not harsh, this is the reality of the job, people should not take jobs that require weekend work if they are not willing to work those weekends. Jobs like these come with price

    Has it occurred to you that maybe it was discussed when she signed and they agreed because they wanted her so badly, that maybe it was 'okay in year one because this is new but after that, no'?

    Anyway what other opportunities are there for 3rd Reporters without in season testing, it isn't like they get to run on Fridays.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:20

    Has it occurred to you that maybe it was discussed when she signed and they agreed because they wanted her so badly, that maybe it was 'okay in year one because this is new but after that, no'?

    not saying it wasn't pre-planned, just saying my friends are capable of getting married without me.

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 12:20

    Has it occurred to you that maybe it was discussed when she signed and they agreed because they wanted her so badly, that maybe it was 'okay in year one because this is new but after that, no'?

    Do you think she was wanted that badly ?

  • lou28/07/2011 at 12:20

    she's missed more races in 6 months than joe in two decades.

    she has a once in a lifetime job... :(

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:21

    Do you think she was wanted that badly ?

    I've no idea and neither do you

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:21

    Has it occurred to you that maybe it was discussed when she signed and they agreed because they wanted her so badly, that maybe it was 'okay in year one because this is new but after that, no'?

    Why on earth would they want her that badly?

  • F1Wolf28/07/2011 at 12:21

    she has a once in a lifetime job... :(

    And that "once" may not last too long

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:22

    she has a once in a lifetime job... :(

    has or had?

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:22

    And that "once" may not last too long

    You all said that about Brundle when he skipped races and he got promoted.

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:23

    Has it occurred to you that maybe it was discussed when she signed and they agreed because they wanted her so badly, that maybe it was 'okay in year one because this is new but after that, no'?

    Given that Jennie Gow is hanging around waiting for her holidays, i dont think its likely.

    She has more experience too, doing moto gp last year

  • lou28/07/2011 at 12:23

    Has it occurred to you that maybe it was discussed when she signed and they agreed because they wanted her so badly, that maybe it was 'okay in year one because this is new but after that, no'?

    well they would have had to have sorted other paddock passes right? so its possible.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:23

    You all said that about Brundle when he skipped races and he got promoted.

    ...and stopped skipping races. but point taken.

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 12:24

    And that "once" may not last too long

    You all said that about Brundle when he skipped races and he got promoted.

    But Brundle was amazing when he was around (and he only missed one race per year - tops). She's nowhere near as irreplaceable as Brundle.

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:26

    You all said that about Brundle when he skipped races and he got promoted.

    Brundle was probably the top guy on itv at the time, she isnt.

    Maybe its just a blip, but it seems like an odd thing to do twice in your first year

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:26

    ...and stopped skipping races. but point taken.

    Right so if she got promoted she might stop too

  • Christine28/07/2011 at 12:28

    a friends wedding is a poor excuse. get better friends.

    It doesn't help that we dislike weddings. Some people like them.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:29

    It doesn't help that we dislike weddings. Some people like them.

    also true.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:30

    Frankly I find this ridiculous. If I were the boss I would not approve the leave.

    A tad heavy handed, maybe?

    two races missed in a 19 race season. on the one hand - ideal season, on the other, not a great start to your debut year.

    Has anyone considered that her bosses knew this prior to hiring her? Bet on they did and made arrangements otherwise

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:31

    Right so if she got promoted she might stop too

    Give her Jakes job and hope she doesnt go to anymore weddings? :P

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 12:32

    a friends wedding is a poor excuse. get better friends.

    It was just a week away from the F1 summer break. :D

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:32

    ...and stopped skipping races. but point taken.

    Ehhh... Brundle may potentially not be in Canada next year...

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 12:32

    Ehhh... Brundle may potentially not be in Canada next year...

    Why not?

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:32

    Ehhh... Brundle may potentially not be in Canada next year...

    who did he offend?

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:33

    Has anyone considered that her bosses knew this prior to hiring her? Bet on they did and made arrangements otherwise

    Why would they employ someone part time?

    Part of the job is about developing relationships in the paddock...

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:33

    Why not?

    There are strong rumours linking him to a return to Le Mans in 2012

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 12:33

    who did he offend?

    I'm guessing Le Mans, but I'm not sure?

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:33

    There are strong rumours linking him to a return to Le Mans in 2012

    at his age?

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:34

    Ehhh... Brundle may potentially not be in Canada next year...

    Why not?

    If BBC quit, so might he

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:34

    There are strong rumours linking him to a return to Le Mans in 2012

    I don't see that happening unless they are on different weekends

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 12:34

    There are strong rumours linking him to a return to Le Mans in 2012

    at his age?

    Why not? They nearly won Daytona this year outright.

    That said, I don't think it'll happen.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:34

    at his age?

    Why not? Paul Newman raced his last enduro aged 80

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:36

    Why would they employ someone part time?

    A 19 race season is quite a lot, and remember they expected it to be 20

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:37

    Ehhh... Brundle may potentially not be in Canada next year...

    As lead commentator i cant see him being let off to do it unless they can get murray in to replace him.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:38

    A 19 race season is quite a lot, and remember they expected it to be 20

    The other thing is she is hardly the voice/face of the BBC F1 output, swapping the roles around doesn't really hurt anyone. Do we know why Gow stopped doing MotoGP? I've forgotten.

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 12:38

    Why would they employ someone part time?

    A 19 race season is quite a lot, and remember they expected it to be 20

    Yes, but if other members of the team can attend all of them (or miss one race at most), why can't she?

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:38

    Do we know why Gow stopped doing MotoGP? I've forgotten.

    I think she may have just dropped.

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:41

    A 19 race season is quite a lot, and remember they expected it to be 20

    They already have ant missing races, i dont think they would agree to anyone missing any more

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:42

    Do we know why Gow stopped doing MotoGP? I've forgotten.

    Cost cutting i would guess, with such short pre shows & so few bikes in it they didnt really need 2 reporters

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:44

    They already have ant missing races, i dont think they would agree to anyone missing any more

    Why not? I'm bemused at the fuss, it really doesn't matter. None of us had heard of her before March anyway.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 12:45

    Why not? I'm bemused at the fuss, it really doesn't matter. None of us had heard of her before March anyway.

    i'm just annoyed that it's a wedding.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:46

    i'm just annoyed that it's a wedding.

    Fair enough.

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:46

    i'm just annoyed that it's a wedding.

    :D haha

    Why not? I'm bemused at the fuss, it really doesn't matter. None of us had heard of her before March anyway.

    I really dont care that much! Im just outraged that someone who has a paddock pass isnt using it this weekend *shakes fist*

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:46

    Pat - a question if you have a moment

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:47

    Having a little office debate

    Is it really that bad not to turn your car off when filling up at the petrol station?

    ...F1 cars did it for years...

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:48

    Cost cutting i would guess, with such short pre shows & so few bikes in it they didnt really need 2 reporters

    They still have two, maybe Azi Farni is cheaper because she's not as good / experienced :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:48

    Pat - a question if you have a moment

    sure

  • Nick (@Twiger)28/07/2011 at 12:48

    They still have two, maybe Azi Farni is cheaper because she's not as good / experienced :)

    Completly forgot she was there!

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:49

    sure

    Do you know if Eau Rouge to Stavalot was a handy or difficult trek - did you do it at all last year?

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:54

    Do you know if Eau Rouge to Stavalot was a handy or difficult trek - did you do it at all last year?

    It is a very long way if you walk the perimeter, there is a tunnel under Eau Rouge though and you can walk through the interior of the circuit to Pouhon which takes 10-15 minutes. Stavelot is hard to reach though, if at all.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:54

    It is a very long way if you walk the perimeter, there is a tunnel under Eau Rouge though and you can walk through the interior of the circuit to Pouhon which takes 10-15 minutes. Stavelot is hard to reach though, if at all.

    Grand job - cheers

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:54

    It is a very long way if you walk the perimeter, there is a tunnel under Eau Rouge though and you can walk through the interior of the circuit to Pouhon which takes 10-15 minutes. Stavelot is hard to reach though, if at all.

    Actually there might be a route on the infield towards Stavelot but I never went that way

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:55

    Actually there might be a route on the infield towards Stavelot but I never went that way

    Ace - cheers

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 12:56

    Actually there might be a route on the infield towards Stavelot but I never went that way

    So there is :)

    http://www.spa-francorchamps.be/en/images/plan_details.jpg

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:56

    Hmmm... one wonders if dear young Esteban might get some Friday mornings in at Sauber come 2012?

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:57

    So there is :)

    www.spa-francorch…/plan_details.jpg

    Cheers

    :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 12:57

    Oh nooo...

    http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/216914_10150737839610534_10150125792055534_20145109_6217314_n.jpg

    #SpaIsWettttt....

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 13:00

    ...as is the Hungaroring

    @Elissa_F1: View of the Hungaroring from the @MarussiaVirgin commercial team office, another wet day on track.. http://twitpic.com/5x52b1

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 13:54

    Liuzzi in a V8 Supercar! Not sure he's a crowd-puller but he's the first active F1 driver to do this 'guest' event at Surfers

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93414

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 13:56

    Liuzzi in a V8 Supercar! Not sure he's a crowd-puller but he's the first active F1 driver to do this 'guest' event at Surfers

    www.autosport.com…port.php/id/93414

    Aside from the F1 racers, there's a higher IndyCar driver count at it this year too

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 13:58

    Afternoon all. Just seen my parents off. Seems quiet in my flat now...

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 13:59

    Hi Gavin

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 14:00

    Kimi News (kind of)

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93427

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 14:01

    I'm also trying to wean myself off hotmail. The problem is that I have to figure out all the billing services I have signed myself up for using it!

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 14:02

    Taking non-news to a new level

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93425

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 14:02

    Afternoon all. Just seen my parents off. Seems quiet in my flat now...

    Was it a good visit?

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 14:02

    Taking non-news to a new level

    I haven't missed much then?

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 14:02

    Kimi News (kind of)

    Sounds like an illness. :)

    "The day he will have the click I think he could be faster. But he didn't have the click yet"

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 14:03

    I haven't missed much then?

    Not at all

    Sounds like an illness. :)

    :D

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 14:03

    Was it a good visit?

    Yeah. The UK bit was weird because it was me, my parents and my grandparents all together. But they spent 10 days here and they said that they really enjoyed it. We showed them as much as we could and even invited friends over for a BBQ.

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 14:04

    Sounds like an illness. :)

    Sounds like a permanent move to NASCAR?

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 14:07

    Sounds like a permanent move to NASCAR?

    I'd watch more NASCAR if that were true, for a while anyway.

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 14:09

    I'd watch more NASCAR if that were true, for a while anyway.

    I'd give if a brief run before the adverts kill my head

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 14:29

    I haven't missed much then?

    In F1 news, not really. Just a flurry of rubbish about exhausts. Watch Germany if you haven't already, was fun. In non-F1 news as a daily-writer you should see this http://sidepodcast.com/post/chopping-and-changing (LPG did a good job as stand-in btw).

  • Alex Andronov28/07/2011 at 14:31

    In F1 news, not really. Just a flurry of rubbish about exhausts. Watch Germany if you haven't already, was fun. In non-F1 news as a daily-writer you should see this sidepodcast.com/p…ping-and-changing (LPG did a good job as stand-in btw).

    Important reading for a Daily Comments posters too.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 14:33

    Important reading for a Daily Comments posters too.

    Absolutely.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 14:40

    Important reading for a Daily Comments posters too.

    Absolutely.

    and mentioned in the daily post ;)

  • Alex Andronov28/07/2011 at 14:40

    Absolutely.

    Daily comments posters?

    Daily commenters?

    People who comment in the daily - maybe that's it :)

  • Alex Andronov28/07/2011 at 14:41

    and mentioned in the daily post ;)

    Rather making your point.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 14:43

    and mentioned in the daily post ;)

    I was just about to say that in the other thread. It was at the top after a slight gap for a reason, to catch people's eye if they were about to skim through or scroll past..

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 15:05

    Well, this could be interesting...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93432

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 15:11

    In F1 news, not really. Just a flurry of rubbish about exhausts. Watch Germany if you haven't already, was fun. In non-F1 news as a daily-writer you should see this sidepodcast.com/p…ping-and-changing (LPG did a good job as stand-in btw).

    Saw Germany. Was fun. Thanks for the heads up :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 15:18

    Well, this could be interesting...

    www.autosport.com…port.php/id/93432

    Having an ex-Ferrari man who designed the regulations could be quite useful!

  • Leigh O'Gorman28/07/2011 at 15:23

    Having an ex-Ferrari man who designed the regulations could be quite useful!

    Absolutely. Very smart hiring (for once) by ol' Craig

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 15:34

    Having an ex-Ferrari man who designed the regulations could be quite useful!

    Absolutely. Very smart hiring (for once) by ol' Craig

    That'll help even out the field for PURE. Now if only they could think of a better name...

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 15:38

    This is just plain 'ol hilarious.

    Ever attempted to stage an email intervention? Now you can! :D

    http://www.emailintervention.com/

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 15:50

    Ever attempted to stage an email intervention? Now you can! :D

    I just turned off Hotmail ;)

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 15:54

    Ever attempted to stage an email intervention? Now you can! :D

    I just turned off Hotmail ;)

    I'll admit, I still use non-gmail addresses, but only so that I can minimize the spam that gets to my gmail.

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 15:54

    I'll admit, I still use non-gmail addresses, but only so that I can minimize the spam that gets to my gmail.

    I have a yahoo one for flickr and two gmail adresses plus an isp based one which I use for house bills

  • Lynch28/07/2011 at 16:39

    http://www.allisnotlo.st/index_en.html

    Mr Cee.. I got this to load, you mentioned it the other day, it is indeed QUITE COOL!

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 16:40

    Mr Cee.. I got this to load, you mentioned it the other day, it is indeed QUITE COOL!

    i made this: http://sidepodcast.posterous.com/ok-f1minute

  • Sidepodcast Classics28/07/2011 at 17:00

    Enjoy a little something from the sidepodcast.com back catalogue.

    - F1 and the World (Part 5) - Technology

    Originally published 05/05/2008

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 17:41

    Here's that inevitible 2012 calendar change :)

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93442

    The final four races are now: Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, USA, Brazil

  • Sidepodcast Update28/07/2011 at 17:45
  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 17:45

    The final four races are now: Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, USA, Brazil

    I get the feeling this isn't the last change we'll see

    Glad Brazil is still the finale though

    Evening all

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 17:47

    I get the feeling this isn't the last change we'll see

    You're probably right, we don't normally see the final final final FINAL one until October/November.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 17:50

    You're probably right, we don't normally see the final final final FINAL one until October/November.

    There must be a lot of money hanging on the Bahrain race for Bernie to keep bending over backwards. There seems to be enough new places knocking on the door to replace it and others teetering on the edge

  • Janna28/07/2011 at 17:52

    Here's that inevitible 2012 calendar change :)

    www.autosport.com…port.php/id/93442

    The final four races are now: Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, USA, Brazil

    Also this which just seems right to me:

    The shifting of Bahrain means that the 2012 season is now likely to start with the Australian Grand Prix

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 17:53

    The final four races are now: Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, USA, Brazil

    canada loses out on cost savings of sharing with the USA.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 17:55

    The shifting of Bahrain means that the 2012 season is now likely to start with the Australian Grand Prix

    As is right and proper. :)

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 17:56

    The shifting of Bahrain means that the 2012 season is now likely to start with the Australian Grand Prix

    That is good news, I agree

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 17:56

    There must be a lot of money hanging on the Bahrain race for Bernie to keep bending over backwards. There seems to be enough new places knocking on the door to replace it and others teetering on the edge

    He does seem very insistent for some reason.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 17:57

    He does seem very insistent for some reason.

    And it's usually just money that Bernie acts upon

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 18:04

    Here's that inevitible 2012 calendar change :)

    www.autosport.com…port.php/id/93442

    The final four races are now: Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, USA, Brazil

    @NobleF1 just pointed out that this is just Bernie's plan and the FIA has to agree it

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 18:05

    Here's that inevitible 2012 calendar change :)

    www.autosport.com…port.php/id/93442

    The final four races are now: Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, USA, Brazil

    I hope the FIA go ahead with this, I'm just happy to see Australia kick the season off and Brazil to end it :)

    And evening all!

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 18:06

    Yay for Rubens and Nico playing football with rubens' kids :)

    Although how Nico can play with that jacket on...

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 18:10

    And evening all!

    Hi Lukeh

    Although how Nico can play with that jacket on...

    Maybe it's a grid-style climate control garment [I bet the teams have a better name for it]

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:14

    canada loses out on cost savings of sharing with the USA.

    Why would they not have Canada and the US back to back?? That seems ridiculous for the teams to have to schlep back and forth.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 18:16

    Why would they not have Canada and the US back to back?? That seems ridiculous for the teams to have to schlep back and forth.

    they did, but it was too hot in austin. i guess too cold in canada at the end of the year.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 18:17

    Why would they not have Canada and the US back to back?? That seems ridiculous for the teams to have to schlep back and forth.

    Because they went for Austin & Brazil which are kinda in separate continents but there you go.

    Maybe Canada is more financially secure and yes, Oct/Nov would be impossible to hold a GP unless they raced with studded tyres :D

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 18:18

    I'm going to post this here as I think it's interesting but without cross contaminating the threads, I'd point out that this probably would not be worthy of a Post of it's own. [I genuinely think it's a curious news piece]

    Earth has it's first Trojan Asteroid confirmed this month.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_TK7

    Essentially, it shares the Earth's orbit of the sun but will not collide with it. The existence of such a phenomenon was predicted back in 1772

    #SidepodSpace [in honour of Steven's non-internet connection]

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:19

    they did, but it was too hot in austin. i guess too cold in canada at the end of the year.

    I see. I guess the seasons are not cooperating with cost savings.

    Anytime they're going to keep it out of the hottest time of the year in Texas, I'm for it. And I may even go, then.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:21

    Maybe Canada is more financially secure and yes, Oct/Nov would be impossible to hold a GP unless they raced with studded tyres :D

    and snow plows on the front.

    Bad teacher, I didn't read the full article before I commented. :(

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:27

    Does anyone have any sites they've used for creating your own logo? I didn't know there were these sites until yesterday so I wanted to play with them a bit.

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 18:38

    Why would they not have Canada and the US back to back?? That seems ridiculous for the teams to have to schlep back and forth.

    They are going to Brazil and Austin is on the way.. of a sort

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 18:38

    Not F1, but racing involved:

    My brother in law does marketing and personnel management for a few NHRA teams and other related vendors. They were in Denver this weekend out at the drag strip, and he got me all setup. He got me a pass and hooked me up with a top fuel team he still works with (and used to be a mechanic for) and I got to drive their golf cart up to the start line, and actually stand at the start line for their cars race.

    it was awesome! it feels like getting punched in the chest when these cars go off and you're standing that close. Here are some pics:

    http://pancoast.smugmug.com/Cars/NHRA-Bandimere-2011/

    Next year, if I want (and the team is there) I might get to work on the car!

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:39

    They are going to Brazil and Austin is on the way.. of a sort

    Yes, I can see that. There's a lot to consider in what is best for the teams, drivers and fans.

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 18:40

    They are going to Brazil and Austin is on the way.. of a sort

    Yes, I can see that. There's a lot to consider in what is best for the teams, drivers and fans.

    yeah, if you're coming from California, Austin is on the way.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:40

    Next year, if I want (and the team is there) I might get to work on the car!

    Awesome! My dad drag raced his whole life and took us to the SummerNationals in Englishtown, NJ every year if we wanted to go. Great memories. It was such an important part of his life.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 18:40

    Does anyone have any sites they've used for creating your own logo? I didn't know there were these sites until yesterday so I wanted to play with them a bit.

    'fraud not but there is something which is kind of relevant that I think you should listen to

    MacBreak Weekly [again] this week and an interesting piece on free themes and plugins that contain unknown scripts designed to track traffic for marketing and other nefarious means

    MBW 257 time stamp 1:03:20 [easier via podcast]

    They promote a tool that blocks cookies to a very granular level. As a website owner, it's probably a very valuable listen

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:42

    They promote a tool that blocks cookies to a very granular level. As a website owner, it's probably a very valuable listen

    Thank you! :)

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 18:42

    He, he. Freudian slip. I meant 'fraid not

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:42

    He, he. Freudian slip. I meant 'fraid not

    hehe

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 18:43

    it was awesome! it feels like getting punched in the chest when these cars go off and you're standing that close. Here are some pics:

    Very cool, and really nice pics!

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 18:45

    Very cool, and really nice pics!

    Yeah, to be so close to the top fuel cars, wow.

    I love the bike pic. Thanks for sharing.

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 18:45

    Awesome! My dad drag raced his whole life and took us to the SummerNationals in Englishtown, NJ every year if we wanted to go. Great memories. It was such an important part of his life.

    very cool!

    The nitro cars don't run a quarter mile anymore, they run 1000ft because someone got killed last year when something went wrong and they couldn't stop in time.

    But those nitro cars are just plain nuts (And it's hard to breathe around one of those things when it's really going)

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 18:54

    http://sidepodcast.posterous.com/a-new-recruit

  • Janna28/07/2011 at 18:56

    sidepodcast.poste…com/a-new-recruit

    Surely you're going to call it Michael ;)

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 18:56

    Surely you're going to call it Michael ;)

    ha!

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 18:57

    Surely you're going to call it Michael ;)

    He'll be so confused when mr c wheres his 'Michael Who?' shirt

  • lou28/07/2011 at 19:00

    Surely you're going to call it Michael ;)

    ha!

    how about 'Ant' after their ever so loyal test driver?

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 19:01

    how about 'Ant' after their ever so loyal test driver?

    fluffy ant. that works.

  • lou28/07/2011 at 19:01

    how about 'Ant' after their ever so loyal test driver?

    or, Leo after Nico's strange likeness to Mr Dicaprio?

  • lou28/07/2011 at 19:02

    fluffy ant. that works.

    yay! and he's small! you've nearly got a 5live coms box right there :)

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 19:04

    yay! and he's small! you've nearly got a 5live coms box right there :)

    we need an oversized microphone.

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 19:04

    we need an oversized microphone.

    :)

  • James28/07/2011 at 19:09

    bit late on this :)

    canada loses out on cost savings of sharing with the USA.

    Cue another race in the US....

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 19:11

    I love how on the homepage Pat just randomly includes 'I hate the log flume' :)

    Log flumes is awesome . I loved the Blackpool one. It was very watery, which came as an odd surprise in retrospect.

  • lou28/07/2011 at 19:13

    we need an oversized microphone.

    photoshop to the rescue? :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 19:15

    I love how on the homepage Pat just randomly includes 'I hate the log flume' :)

    Log flumes is awesome . I loved the Blackpool one. It was very watery, which came as an odd surprise in retrospect.

    Hooray, it was noticed :)

    Ties in with the bit at the end of the post. I was made to go on the one at Thorpe Park as a child, and it was then (still is?) the highest in Britain, didn't want to go on it and didn't like it at all. I'm sure I'm fine now but I'm scarred, scarred :)

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 19:17

    Ties in with the bit at the end of the post. I was made to go on the one at Thorpe Park as a child, and it was then (still is?) the highest in Britain, didn't want to go on it and didn't like it at all. I'm sure I'm fine now but I'm scarred, scarred :)

    The barry island one is the best, it crawls around a corner, goes up... and anti climatically comes down again with no real drop.

    It;s almost as good as the mini golf.

  • lou28/07/2011 at 19:17

    It;s almost as good as the mini golf.

    mini golf is amazing!

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 19:19

    mini golf is amazing!

    Of course! Whilst the log flume is a sarcastic mess of a ride the mini golf at barry island is brilliant fun, it's pirate themed and everything. It has a fake Johnny Depp pirate with a ginger beard, I mean, if that's reason not to visit enough :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 19:20

    The barry island one is the best, it crawls around a corner, goes up... and anti climatically comes down again with no real drop.

    Heheh :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 19:20

    sidepodcast.poste…com/a-new-recruit

    Norbert

    or what's the name of that Merc guy with the big moustache

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 19:20

    Of course! Whilst the log flume is a sarcastic mess of a ride the mini golf at barry island is brilliant fun, it's pirate themed and everything. It has a fake Johnny Depp pirate with a ginger beard, I mean, if that's reason not to visit enough :)

    I was hoping you could see him on this photo but no luck :(

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 19:20

    Of course! Whilst the log flume is a sarcastic mess of a ride the mini golf at barry island is brilliant fun, it's pirate themed and everything. It has a fake Johnny Depp pirate with a ginger beard, I mean, if that's reason not to visit enough :)

    Mini is the only variety of Golf that I get

  • lou28/07/2011 at 19:21

    Mini is the only variety of Golf that I get

    me too, and i come from a family of golfers.. well not pros but you know what i mean..

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 19:24

    Ties in with the bit at the end of the post. I was made to go on the one at Thorpe Park as a child, and it was then (still is?) the highest in Britain, didn't want to go on it and didn't like it at all. I'm sure I'm fine now but I'm scarred, scarred :)

    Now they've built this which I refuse to go on. :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stealth_at_Thorpe_Park_-_geograph.org.uk_-_139055.jpg

    Hate heights.

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 19:25

    we need an oversized microphone.

    photoshop to the rescue? :)

    It'd be rude not to :)

  • Pat W28/07/2011 at 19:27
  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 19:29

    we need an oversized microphone.

    photoshop to the rescue? :)

    It'd be rude not to :)

    Someone needs to send the to Crofty :D

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 19:30

    I have a daily to write and something else mega to photoshop for it so you have permission to shoo me if I reappear

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 19:33

    Hi all. It seems I have an internet connection again. Hope it lasts

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 19:33

    Hi all. It seems I have an internet connection again. Hope it lasts

    Welcome back!

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 19:34

    Welcome back!

    Have you missed me?

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 19:35

    Have you missed me?

    Yes.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 19:35
  • Kai28/07/2011 at 19:35

    Yes.

    comment count is way down, so get talkin'.

    :D

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 19:36

    comment count is way down, so get talkin'.

    !!

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 19:36

    !!

    hehehe

    Thought you'd like that. ;)

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 19:39

    comment count is way down, so get talkin'.

    That I can do

  • Alison28/07/2011 at 19:40

    !!

    It's clearly entirely Steven's fault!

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 19:40

    That I can do

    http://sidepodcast.com/post/chopping-and-changing

    You should read this first, lest I spend my life on the naughty step. ;)

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 19:44

    You should read this first, lest I spend my life on the naughty step. ;)

    Best get a drink and get comfy though

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 19:44

    It's clearly entirely Steven's fault!

    Typical. I am here two minutes and in trouble already

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 19:44

    You should read this first, lest I spend my life on the naughty step. ;)

    I scanned it earlier and I will comment later

  • Marti28/07/2011 at 19:46

    Good evening :)

    My visit will be a short one, but hello everyone

  • Rubbergoat28/07/2011 at 19:52

    Surely you're going to call it Michael ;)

    Helga.

  • lou28/07/2011 at 19:54

    if in doubt blame Steven. Can't argue with tradition. Hey Steven :)

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 19:57

    if in doubt blame Steven. Can't argue with tradition. Hey Steven :)

    It's not only the truth, it's the law

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 19:57

    I love the sound of this extension for Chrome or Safari

    Banish multipage articles, in fact, you'll never know they were multipage

    http://globalmoxie.com/blog/page-one-safari-chrome-extension.shtml

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 20:00

    Banish multipage articles, in fact, you'll never know they were multipage

    in safari: apple+shift+r

    no extension needed. plus no ads.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 20:01

    no extension needed. plus no ads.

    I know Reader does something similar, but from a web owners point of view this is another alternative

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 20:01

    in safari: apple+shift+r

    Question: I used Google Notifier for email in Chrome, but it doesn't seem to be working in Safari. How do I get it to work in Safari, too?

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 20:02

    if in doubt blame Steven. Can't argue with tradition. Hey Steven :)

    :)

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 20:02

    I know Reader does something similar, but from a web owners point of view this is another alternative

    reader rocks my socks off. wipes out all flash ads in one tap.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 20:03

    reader rocks my socks off. wipes out all flash ads in one tap.

    So does ClickToFlash [not a Chrome user]

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 20:04

    Question: I used Google Notifier for email in Chrome, but it doesn't seem to be working in Safari. How do I get it to work in Safari, too?

    Is that the pop-up window? I'm not sure it does work in Safari

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 20:05

    So does ClickToFlash [not a Chrome user]

    try explaining to my mum how to install that. reader is free and built in to every download.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 20:05

    Is that the pop-up window? I'm not sure it does work in Safari

    yeah. I'll look at the site Notifier site again, maybe I missed something.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 20:05

    So does ClickToFlash [not a Chrome user]

    click to flash doesn't disable animated gifs either... does it?

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 20:07

    click to flash doesn't disable animated gifs either... does it?

    Dunno, I have Glimmer Blocker installed too which gives other benefits in Safari, such as tuneable search window options and 'unclose tab'

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 20:08

    try explaining to my mum how to install that. reader is free and built in to every download.

    An excellent point

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 20:08

    Dunno, I have Glimmer Blocker installed too which gives other benefits in Safari, such as tuneable search window options and 'unclose tab'

    apple+shift+d also another fav shortcut.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 20:09

    try explaining to my mum how to install that. reader is free and built in to every download.

    My Mum's eyes mist over at the concept of the Internet and it's not just her cataracts :)

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 20:10

    apple+shift+d also another fav shortcut.

    Can tell you are an old skill Mac user cos you don't use the term CMD instead of Apple :)

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 20:12

    Can tell you are an old skill Mac user cos you don't use the term CMD instead of Apple :)

    oops.

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 20:36

    I am reading through the chopping and changing thread. There are a lot of interesting comments in it but I won't say anything until I have read them all.

  • Christine28/07/2011 at 20:39

    Ping: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/news/put-on-a-brave-face

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 20:41

    Ping: www.f1bigpicture.…t-on-a-brave-face

    Almost ready for Lewis to photograph

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 21:15

    Huzzah, the daily is all done :)

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 21:18

    Huzzah, the daily is all done :)

    Well done on finishing it so early

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 21:23

    Bassano, thanks for the heads up on the cookie eliminating software. It's awesome.

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 21:25

    Bassano, thanks for the heads up on the cookie eliminating software. It's awesome.

    what is it? I sorta half saw you guys talking about it.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 21:25

    Bassano, thanks for the heads up on the cookie eliminating software. It's awesome.

    No problem, I've had to bookmark it as it's not ready for Lion yet

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 21:25

    what is it? I sorta half saw you guys talking about it.

    Granular cookie control for Chrome or Safari [Mac only?] http://www.ghostery.com/

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 21:26

    http://www.ghostery.com/

    If you want it to it can show you what is being blocked every time you go to a page.

    Spooky.

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 21:28

    If you want it to it can show you what is being blocked every time you go to a page.

    I had no idea that free themes on wordpress and others had this sort of stuff hidden away quite often

  • Bassano28/07/2011 at 21:28

    I had no idea that free themes on wordpress and others had this sort of stuff hidden away quite often

    "No such thing as a free lunch" is often true :)

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 21:34

    http://www.ghostery.com/

    If you want it to it can show you what is being blocked every time you go to a page.

    Spooky.

    Ooooooh.

    spooky.

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 21:34

    I totally missed out the part where you said spooky too... bah. It's a been long day.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 21:35

    I totally missed out the part where you said spooky too... bah. It's a been long day.

    :) and it's name Ghostery. ;)

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 21:41

    :) and it's name Ghostery. ;)

    hehe. The clue is in the name ;)

    I really wish I could stick in the comments for longer but I'm just knackered, today's just been one of them days. Thursdays are just rude being so tiring and annoying. Night night guys.

  • Mr C28/07/2011 at 21:41

    I really wish I could stick in the comments for longer but I'm just knackered, today's just been one of them days. Thursdays are just rude being so tiring and annoying. Night night guys.

    don't forget the lotus job thingy.

  • Lukeh28/07/2011 at 21:43

    don't forget the lotus job thingy.

    it's on my two do list first thing when i get home tomorrow, definitely. It's a real exciting prospect! Would of done it tonight but makes more sense to out together stuff actually awake than braindead and thursday'd up :)

  • Christine28/07/2011 at 21:43

    A ping with many frowny faces: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/news/ask-me-another

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 21:44

    A ping with many frowny faces: www.f1bigpicture.…ws/ask-me-another

    oh my! Cheer up, guys, you drive F1 cars for a living. :)

  • Christine28/07/2011 at 21:47

    oh my! Cheer up, guys, you drive F1 cars for a living. :)

    I had a peek through the transcript. Not sure which question had them all frowning so much!

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 21:48

    I had a peek through the transcript. Not sure which question had them all frowning so much!

    Maybe that is their concentrating face...or the person talking had on a peculiar shirt....was EJ there?

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 21:49

    A ping with many frowny faces: www.f1bigpicture.…ws/ask-me-another

    You would think being richer than they could ever have imagined and being paid to drive racing cars would be enough for one of them to break into a smile.

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 21:55

    You would think being richer than they could ever have imagined and being paid to drive racing cars would be enough for one of them to break into a smile.

    When I went to the drag races this past weekend I saw John Force quite a few times. 15 times NHRA funny car champion. I don't know how much money he has, but he had a huge grin on his face every time I saw him.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 21:56

    When I went to the drag races this past weekend I saw John Force quite a few times. 15 times NHRA funny car champion. I don't know how much money he has, but he had a huge grin on his face every time I saw him.

    Did you see that 'reality' show about him and his family a few years back? He's a character.

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 22:01

    Why would they not have Canada and the US back to back?? That seems ridiculous for the teams to have to schlep back and forth.

    Oddly enough, for many of the years that had both Canada and a US race on the calendar, they weren't back to back. In particular, I remember this being true for the last few races at Phoenix and the first few races at Indy.

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 22:03

    Did you see that 'reality' show about him and his family a few years back? He's a character.

    Nope, I'll have to look it up.

    I honestly didn't care about drag racing until this weekend. I don't know if I really "care" about it much more now, but I don't think I'll ever turn down an opportunity to do that again. Especially if my bro-in-law can get me in for free.

    I mean, 8,000 HP. Standing 20' away when they stomp on that gas is just really fun :)

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 22:10

    Did you see that 'reality' show about him and his family a few years back? He's a character.

    His daughter is quick too

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 22:14

    His daughter is quick too

    2 of his daughters are quick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtney_Force

  • Alison28/07/2011 at 22:15

    STEVEN! I am watching pointless.

    Alexander has just said "now then Steven, we're looking for ducks"

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 22:16

    2 of his daughters are quick: en.wikipedia.org/…ki/Courtney_Force

    Correction, his daughter Brittany races as well.

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 22:16

    2 of his daughters are quick: en.wikipedia.org/…ki/Courtney_Force

    I have only ever seen Ashley race

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 22:16

    Alexander has just said "now then Steven, we're looking for ducks"

    Very scarey

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 22:17

    Correction, his daughter Brittany races as well.

    Great to see. I hope they continue to do well, and finish school. :)

  • Alison28/07/2011 at 22:18

    Very scarey

    Steven found a duck. Have you had similar luck?

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 22:25

    Steven found a duck. Have you had similar luck?

    Not many ducks round hear at this time of night.

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 22:28

    Just to show what being unplugged from the collective does to you. I just realised there is FP tomorrow.

  • Alison28/07/2011 at 22:29

    Just to show what being unplugged from the collective does to you. I just realised there is FP tomorrow.

    :D I'm constantly confused like that #toomuchwork

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 22:29

    Has anyone used MSN as an alternative to skype? I have a call booked to China next week and they say skype is unstable and MSN is a better alternative

  • jpancoast28/07/2011 at 22:30

    Has anyone used MSN as an alternative to skype? I have a call booked to China next week and they say skype is unstable and MSN is a better alternative

    Translation: the gov't can eavesdrop on MSN, but not on Skype.

    Of course, microsoft owns skype now...

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 22:31

    Of course, microsoft owns skype now...

    You would think they wanted to roll it all into one thing

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 22:46

    Steven, Chad Ochocinco is going to the Patriots this year. That outta be fun.

    Oh, and the lockout is over as of yesterday, so there will be a US football season this year.

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 22:48

    Steven, Chad Ochocinco is going to the Patriots this year. That outta be fun.

    Interesting

    Oh, and the lockout is over as of yesterday, so there will be a US football season this year.

    Good. I tend to ignore the NFL outside the season so all these things pass me by.

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 22:49

    Good. I tend to ignore the NFL outside the season so all these things pass me by.

    It's best that way. I take a 'wake me when it's over' approach.

  • Journeyer28/07/2011 at 22:50

    Steven, Chad Ochocinco is going to the Patriots this year. That outta be fun.

    Wait, WHAT?!

    Well, if anyone can tame a football player, it's Bill Belichick.

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 22:52

    hello everybody!

    Just to show what being unplugged from the collective does to you. I just realised there is FP tomorrow

    as a long time SPC regular, you should know that you must (are expected to) be connected at all times ;-)

  • Kai28/07/2011 at 22:52

    Wait, WHAT?!

    That's what I said. I can't see it. It will be interesting to see how that develops, and what about the guy who already has the 85 jersey?

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 23:00

    Well, if anyone can tame a football player, it's Bill Belichick.

    It must motivate him to know that every time he goes on the field he has Eli chucking the ball at him

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 23:01

    as a long time SPC regular, you should know that you must (are expected to) be connected at all times ;-)

    Hi Guille

    My ISP did not seem to understand that.

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 23:01

    That's what I said. I can't see it. It will be interesting to see how that develops, and what about the guy who already has the 85 jersey?

    Someone already has 85. Maybe he will change his name to 87 or something

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 23:02

    My ISP did not seem to understand that.

    that's very rude of them...

  • Christine28/07/2011 at 23:05

    New daily ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/daily-29th-july-2011

  • Steven Roy28/07/2011 at 23:06

    that's very rude of them...

    They are now very aware of my views on the subject

  • guille230628/07/2011 at 23:07

    They are now very aware of my views on the subject

    :)