Morning all to this, my second ever contribution to Sidepodcast. I'm starting to get used to this already.

This weekend will see the Formula 1 circus descend onto Spain for the second time this year when we'll be in Valencia for the European Grand Prix. I was thinking of doing a list of memorable moments from this racetrack, just like I did with the Montreal circuit last time, then I realised: this is Valencia! There are no memorable moments from this racetrack! So instead, I've decided to do a list of memorable moments from the European GP itself, spanning the four different tracks in which it's been staged. That is, if you don't count the 1920s to the 1970s, where the European GP was an honorific title given to a particular European race, which changed every year. But before we begin our look back on ghosts of European Grand Prixs* past, I wanted to throw you a...

PUB QUIZ QUESTION: The European Grand Prix is one of two GPs in Formula 1 history that is not named after a country or a principality. Can you name the other? The answer will not be revealed in my next post - or ever - because I suspect you will all know the answer. But if you are stumped, this'll be bound to help you.

  1. Who can forget the 1st lap of the 1993 race at a wet Donington? People who didn't see it in the first place, I suppose. But anyway, this was the time Ayrton Senna went from 4th on the grid to losing a place at the start to leading the race in the space of one lap. Unforgettable.
  2. 2007 also heralded an incredible opening couple of laps. The rain started almost as soon as the lights went out. One lap later, Kimi Raikkonen missed the pitlane entrance whilst trying to switch to wet tyres, several cars spun off at turn 1 and amidst all the chaos, Markus Winklehock, in his first race in a Spyker, and who qualified last, led the race.
  3. 1997, and in the championship-deciding Grand Prix in Jerez Michael Schumacher is trying to hold off Jacques Villeneuve, the only man who could take the World Championship from him. And then this happens...
  4. Well, I suppose I should put a mention in for Valencia, even if the video provided is mirrored for some reason. In 2010, Mark Webber was involved in a terrifying accident with Heikki Kovalainen, in which the former creamed into the back of the latter, flew into the air and crashed straight into the tyre barrier. However, due to the level of safety provided by the modern-day F1 car, Webber jumped straight out and walked away.
  5. Of all the Euro GPs in history, 1999 must be by far the most action-packed. A dry-wet race, a frightening incident at the start, several lead changes, several drivers crashing out of the lead, mechanics forgetting to put tyres on Ferraris, all of which culminated in Johnny Herbert winning his first Grand Prix for the Stewart team. And a Minardi scored a championship point. Btw, it's 'Sandstorm' by Darude. Or you can just use the 'mute' button.

So in closing, Valencia may not have inspired close, exciting racing in the past but you never know. What with the new overtaking devices and tyres available to the drivers this year, even this race has the potential to be one to remember. Perhaps...

And finally, I just wanted to mention the IZOD IndyCar Series is on this Saturday. It's in Iowa. Can Dario Franchitti continue his winning streak from Texas to Wyoming and make it three victories in a row? Will Takuma Sato make it an entire race without crashing into something or even going off the track? Will the host broadcaster be able to show more than five minutes-worth of racing without throwing out several ad-breaks in a row?

For the answer to all these questions plus others, then tune in and watch the race live at 8pm Saturday night USA Eastern Time / 2am Sunday morning UK time / 9am Sunday morning Perth, Australia time / 11am Sunday morning Melbourne, Australia time. In other words, I won't be staying up to watch it.

* should that be ghosts of Grands Prix past instead of ghosts of Grand Prixs past?

325 responses

  • Amy22/06/2011 at 23:15

    ooh educational daily. I like.

  • Sidepodcast Update22/06/2011 at 23:45
  • Sidepodcast Update23/06/2011 at 05:45
  • Matt G23/06/2011 at 06:30

    95 Pacific GP!! Aida, Japan!

  • Matt G23/06/2011 at 06:40

    It was in Grand Prix 2 which was based on the 94' F1 season.... I loved driving that track... I was reading about it not long ago actually, I love that it was originally built just for rich guys to play on!

    Also, I still have the 97' European Gp (now transferred to my Mac) recorded, what a race! also 3 identical times in qualifying! Crazy stuff.

    99 was great also, from memory, Frentzen (Lead steward at Valencia...hmm..) was the class of the field that weekend, before retiring after a pitstop... in a Jordan!

    98 'Luxembourg GP' (I regard it as a European GP :p) springs to mind also, where Hakkinen out-schumachered Schumacher, top stuff

    Ahh, so many Euro GP memories...

  • MartiV823/06/2011 at 07:20

    Good morning sidepodcasters :)

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 08:19

    It was in Grand Prix 2 which was based on the 94' F1 season.... I loved driving that track... I was reading about it not long ago actually, I love that it was originally built just for rich guys to play on!

    Aida is called Okayama now. I thought people hated that GP. :) Sportscars and WTCC have been there in recent years, think they dropped it now.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 08:42

    hey everyone

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 08:43

    And finally, I just wanted to mention the IZOD IndyCar Series is on this Saturday. It's in Iowa. Can Dario Franchitti continue his winning streak from Texas to Wyoming and make it three victories in a row?

    I will about for this one, but shouldn't that be three wins in four (if Dario wins that is)

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 09:21

    Who can forget the 1st lap of the 1993 race at a wet Donington? People who didn't see it in the first place, I suppose. But anyway, this was the time Ayrton Senna went from 4th on the grid to losing a place at the start to leading the race in the space of one lap. Unforgettable.

    :D

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 09:21

    Morning!

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 09:21

    Morning Gavin

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 09:22

    Aida is called Okayama now. I thought people hated that GP. :) Sportscars and WTCC have been there in recent years, think they dropped it now.

    I hate the GP but the circuit is not too bad...

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 09:22

    I hate the GP but the circuit is not too bad...

    So-so circuit, but awful for F1 cars

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 09:23

    Rumours that Elkhart Lake might be back on the IndyCar calendar next year. What a shame Milwaukee only drew somewhere in the region of 15-18,000 last weekend

    :/

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 09:35

    Just did a 4km run - felt really good: http://runkeeper.com/user/RubberGoat/activity/40473780

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 09:38

    Rumours that Elkhart Lake might be back on the IndyCar calendar next year. What a shame Milwaukee only drew somewhere in the region of 15-18,000 last weekend

    I don't like that it one or the other because they are both great, but if they want it they have to support it.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 09:38

    After a manic few weeks (months?) it is nice to have a quieter day again. I am catching up on a much-neglected Google Reader whilst processing some invoices.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 09:44

    New Wimbledon day: http://sidepodcast.com/post/wimbledon-2011-day-4

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 09:45

    why has the JB vs FA debate started again in Twitter ?

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 09:46

    why has the JB vs FA debate started again in Twitter ?

    people take a few days to listen to podcasts.

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 09:50

    people take a few days to listen to podcasts.

    oh :-)

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 09:51

    people take a few days to listen to podcasts.

    If there's anyone out there like me, the conversation will come up again in six months time ;)

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 09:51

    If there's anyone out there like me, the conversation will come up again in six months time ;)

    :)

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 09:53

    I would blame Hamilton though, the reason there was Jb FA incident was caused by Hamilton not taking JB out when he had the chance. No idea why stewards missed that ...

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 09:54

    I would blame Hamilton though, the reason there was Jb FA incident was caused by Hamilton not taking JB out when he had the chance. No idea why stewards missed that ...

    hehe

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 09:54

    I would blame Hamilton though, the reason there was Jb FA incident was caused by Hamilton not taking JB out when he had the chance. No idea why stewards missed that ...

    Ha!

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 10:03

    why has the JB vs FA debate started again in Twitter ?

    There's a debate on again? Is Thursday now this slow for news?

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 10:04

    There's a debate on again? Is Thursday now this slow for news?

    It's not really a debate. A couple of tweets is all.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 10:04

    It's not really a debate. A couple of tweets is all.

    I see

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 10:41

    why has the JB vs FA debate started again in Twitter ?

    Slow news day?

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 10:43

    Slow news day?

    So far, there have been more comments about it than there were tweets :)

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 10:58

    I like it how Tony Fernandes casually tweets about purchasing 200 airbuses ...

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 10:59

    I like it how Tony Fernandes casually tweets about purchasing 200 airbuses ...

    Is it OK if I tweet about buying a litre of milk later on?

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 11:00

    Is it OK if I tweet about buying a litre of milk later on?

    Sure. Are you going to buy 200 litres?

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 11:00

    Is it OK if I tweet about buying a litre of milk later on?

    if you pay 18 billion dollars for it yes, we want to hear about that :-)

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 11:01

    if you pay 18 billion dollars for it yes, we want to hear about that :-)

    Hehehe.

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 11:01

    if you pay 18 billion dollars for it yes, we want to hear about that :-)

    Wow.

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 11:01

    18 billion dollars that is approximately 40-times Toyota annual F1 budget :-)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 11:01

    Sure. Are you going to buy 200 litres?

    Nah, I'll purchase a conservative 2 litres.

    if you pay 18 billion dollars for it yes, we want to hear about that :-)

    This milk had better be damn good

    ;)

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 11:02

    Mike: @tonyfernandes congratulations boss, upmost respect for all you have achieved. A privalige to work with you

    Someone's looking for a payrise :)

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 11:04

    Someone's looking for a payrise :)

    someone needs new sailing boat :-)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 11:06

    someone needs new sailing boat :-)

    Compensation for having to wear a Lotus-themed cricket jumper the other day

    ;)

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 11:09

    found earlier today this quote from H. Kissinger on China way of thinking, feeling so much better now that I finally understand why why why ...

    "no problem has a final solution; every solution is an admission ticket to another problem."

    seriously, this is spot on ...

  • F1Wolf23/06/2011 at 11:25

    in the article describing SAAB's cash problems yet another car maker with Lotus in the name appears ....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13885267

    towards the end ...

  • MartiV823/06/2011 at 11:25

    Little Flickr Ping: http://www.flickr.com/photos/martimunoz/5862452169/

    I am learning how to use my new Nikon camera :P

    I didn't modify that picture.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 11:27

    in the article describing SAAB's cash problems yet another car maker with Lotus in the name appears ....

    No surprise there sadly. It's been a long time coming...

  • Sidepodcast Update23/06/2011 at 11:45
  • Amy23/06/2011 at 11:51

    Today at work I made a chart so I don't double book myself tomorrow :)

    http://amyfulton.posterous.com/i-made-a-chart

    Productive day in the office.

  • Jason Baker23/06/2011 at 12:14

    PUB QUIZ QUESTION: The European Grand Prix is one of two GPs in Formula 1 history that is not named after a country or a principality. Can you name the other?

    In addition to the Pacific GP, there have actually been a number of other Formula 1 Grands Prix not named after a country or principality:

    Caesars Palace Grand Prix (1981-82)

    Dallas Grand Prix (1984)

    Detroit Grand Prix (1982-88)

    Pescara Grand Prix (1957)

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 12:56

    I like it how Tony Fernandes casually tweets about purchasing 200 airbuses ...

    for comparison, virgin have 38 aircraft.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 12:58

    for comparison, virgin have 38 aircraft.

    Considering how both teams are doing in the Constructor's Championship, that sounds about right

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:00

    Glastonbury sneaked up on me, it is this weekend and I am studying the line-up

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/festivals/glastonbury/2011/lineup/

    Particularly looking forward to Elbow and I'm sure U2 will be fun. Might watch Chemical Brothers instead of Coldplay. Not so impressed with the middle order on the two main stages though, I sit ready to be convinced. :) The Peel stage on the other hand, I'll have some of that.

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 13:00

    for comparison, virgin have 38 aircraft.

    Red Bull only had one and it didn't fly too well at Valencia last year ;)

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:00

    Considering how both teams are doing in the Constructor's Championship, that sounds about right

    :)

    tony has an option to buy another 100 on top of that: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/23/airshow-idUSLDE75M00520110623

    holy smokes.

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 13:01

    Glastonbury sneaked up on me, it is this weekend and I am studying the line-up

    It's Roskilde next week too. I went a couple of years ago and it's awesome.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:01

    Particularly looking forward to Elbow and I'm sure U2 will be fun. Might watch Chemical Brothers instead of Coldplay. Not so impressed with the middle order on the two main stages though, I sit ready to be convinced. :) The Peel stage on the other hand, I'll have some of that.

    Assuming the Beeb will have tons of content again

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:01

    I like it how Tony Fernandes casually tweets about purchasing 200 airbuses ...

    for comparison, virgin have 38 aircraft.

    Wow, that's a surprise

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 13:02

    So I'm going to the waterfront tonight to see a bonfire to burn witches, as it's the feast of St. John tonight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsummer#Denmark

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:02

    tony has an option to buy another 100 on top of that: www.reuters.com/a…LDE75M00520110623

    great line from reuters 'Parties involved in the aircraft talks declined comment'.

    'cept for all the tweeting and a twitpic live while signing of the contract... sure.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:03

    'cept for all the tweeting and a twitpic live while signing of the contract... sure.

    :D

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:04

    Particularly looking forward to Elbow and I'm sure U2 will be fun. Might watch Chemical Brothers instead of Coldplay. Not so impressed with the middle order on the two main stages though, I sit ready to be convinced. :) The Peel stage on the other hand, I'll have some of that.

    wondered if it needed a thread? i haven't seen u2 play on a stage that they didn't design themselves, since... umm... maybe live aid in '85?

    beyonce will be awesome too.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 13:04

    wondered if it needed a thread? i haven't seen u2 play on a stage that they didn't design themselves, since... umm... maybe live aid in '85?

    A thread is a great idea. Bagsy not writing it though :)

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:05

    A thread is a great idea. Bagsy not writing it though

    happy too when i gets home.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:06

    wondered if it needed a thread? i haven't seen u2 play on a stage that they didn't design themselves, since... umm... maybe live aid in '85?

    Mm possible

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:06

    beyonce will be awesome too.

    Am not gonna force coldplay on people, but people should totally give Friendly Fires' set a chance.. they are awesome!.. oh and two door cinema club! and.. and Bombay bicycle club and..

    ohh there are too many.. :D

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:06

    Mm possible

    superbowl was custom designed. seems like an absurd stat though. maybe some MTV awards or something?

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:08

    ohhh and the gaslight anthem! i shall shhh.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 13:08

    superbowl was custom designed. seems like an absurd stat though. maybe some MTV awards or something?

    Isn't everything about the Superbowl absurd though? I mean, they actually let a game get in the way of advert premieres!!

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:08

    Am not gonna force coldplay on people, but people should totally give Friendly Fires' set a chance.. they are awesome!.. oh and two door cinema club! and.. and Bombay bicycle club and..

    I'm not as offended by Coldplay as I used to be (have listened a bit this week expecting the impulse to turn it off through over-familiarity..didn't come). Will watch FF. The others I don't know.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:09

    ohhh and the gaslight anthem! i shall shhh.

    maybe i shouldn't be the one writing the thread :)

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:09

    Particularly looking forward to Elbow and I'm sure U2 will be fun. Might watch Chemical Brothers instead of Coldplay. Not so impressed with the middle order on the two main stages though, I sit ready to be convinced. :) The Peel stage on the other hand, I'll have some of that.

    If Biffy Clyro play their earlier stuff rather than the Dad Rock I'll be pleased too :)

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:10

    superbowl was custom designed. seems like an absurd stat though. maybe some MTV awards or something?

    Was thinking maybe Live 8 but I can't remember if they played or not

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 13:10

    ohhh and the gaslight anthem! i shall shhh.

    I got confused when you were tweeting RHCP excitement because aside from Coldplay I thought you literally only liked bands I've never heard of ever :D

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:11

    Was thinking maybe Live 8 but I can't remember if they played or not

    oooooh yes! good call sir.

    (opened with paul mccartney)

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 13:11

    They played on the roof of somewhere.

    I am helpful.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 13:12

    If Biffy Clyro play their earlier stuff rather than the Dad Rock I'll be pleased too :)

    I think they're still doing the Dad Rock tour stuff from the last album. I'm a bit meh about them tbh.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:13

    They played on the roof of somewhere.

    Ahh I vaguely remember that

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:14

    They played on the roof of somewhere.

    ooh, their own hotel (think that might count as self designed), or the bbc studios (built in the 60's)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 13:14

    Ahh I vaguely remember that

    The video for "Where the Streets have no Name?" Yikes - that was 24 years ago

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:15

    quite the schedule: http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/line-up-poster/

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 13:15

    ooh, their own hotel (think that might count as self designed), or the bbc studios (built in the 60's)

    Ah yes: http://www.bbc.co.uk/musicevents/u2/video/broadcastinghouse/

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:16

    The others I don't know.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw3w1iKiq8M The gaslight anthem are very good.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 13:16

    Ah yes: www.bbc.co.uk/mus…roadcastinghouse/

    I see. Didn't see that one.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:16

    I think they're still doing the Dad Rock tour stuff from the last album. I'm a bit meh about them tbh.

    I loved the first three albums at the time, the ones before Puzzle.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:17

    quite the schedule: www.glastonburyfe…k/line-up-poster/

    Cripes, there's a lot more on that one

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:19

    Cripes, there's a lot more on that one

    no surprise the wombles managed to sneak though.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:19

    I got confused when you were tweeting RHCP excitement because aside from Coldplay I thought you literally only liked bands I've never heard of ever :D

    hehe ahh i (heart) RHCP.. and the Killers, and Florence and the machine.. you must have heard of those :D hehe

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 13:21

    hehe ahh i (heart) RHCP.. and the Killers, and Florence and the machine.. you must have heard of those :D hehe

    That I have!

    I was at our work talent show tonight and someone did a cover of Rolling in the Deep and my friend didn't know it. I am 0% up with whats popular but seriously, how could anyone have avoided that song until today? It's been covered by everyone already.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:22

    already looks like fun: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2007311/Glaston-buried-Fans-drown-sea-mud-music-started-yet.html

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:26

    already looks like fun: www.dailymail.co.…-started-yet.html

    ohhhh dear, my uni friend has been there for a week already so he can get his tent in 'prime position'... the things photographers do..

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:27

    ohhhh dear, my uni friend has been there for a week already so he can get his tent in 'prime position'... the things photographers do..

    think jb has lost his spot yet?

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 13:27

    already looks like fun: www.dailymail.co.…-started-yet.html

    weeee I'd like to go just to play in the mud, as long as I could go home and have a hot shower afterwards. Playing in mud is awesome, camping in mud noooooo

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:28

    think jb has lost his spot yet?

    JB as in Jenson?..

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 13:28

    JB as in Jenson?..

    vodafone ad

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:29

    vodafone ad

    ooooohhhhh!!!!

    totally forgot about that.

    hehehe!

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:29

    vodafone ad

    #affinity

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 13:35

    already looks like fun: www.dailymail.co.…-started-yet.html

    See now this is where I'd pay for one of those Virgin posh tent things

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:36

    See now this is where I'd pay for one of those Virgin posh tent things

    oohh! yes me too.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 13:36

    See now this is where I'd pay for one of those Virgin posh tent things

    This is where I'd stay at home

    ;)

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:42

    This is where I'd stay at home

    what? you walked for 6 miles in the silverstone sun last year. surely a bit of nothing is nothing by comparison.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 13:42

    what? you walked for 6 miles in the silverstone sun last year. surely a bit of nothing is nothing by comparison.

    *bit of mud, rather.

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 13:45

    oh and two door cinema club!

    Love that song!

  • lou23/06/2011 at 13:47

    Love that song!

    have a listen to their album! it's brilliant! :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 13:53

    what? you walked for 6 miles in the silverstone sun last year. surely a bit of nothing is nothing by comparison.

    i surpassed that with my road side walk to Oulton Park in April - four miles from the nearest village along a grass bank and back roads with no paths... (frightened to death)

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 13:53

    have a listen to their album! it's brilliant! :)

    Will do :)

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 13:54

    *bit of mud, rather.

    From what I saw at Roskilde, I was glad I only went for the day. I don't think I could tent it.

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 13:55

    From what I saw at Roskilde, I was glad I only went for the day. I don't think I could tent it.

    the closest I will ever come to camping ever again are the days I go to work to find someone has placed my chair inside the pop up tent that lives in our office :)

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 13:56

    the closest I will ever come to camping ever again are the days I go to work to find someone has placed my chair inside the pop up tent that lives in our office :)

    why do you have a pop up tent in your office?

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 13:57

    why do you have a pop up tent in your office?

    we get a lot of really random marketing stuff from our networks, it's ESPN branded.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:04

    ahhhh that's what i like to see, a track in Valencia with a nice view! gotta love the city of arts and sciences..

    points for mclaren?

    http://www.twitvid.com/CM4IY

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 14:05

    we get a lot of really random marketing stuff from our networks, it's ESPN branded.

    weird. Anything else worth noting?

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 14:07

    weird. Anything else worth noting?

    I have High School Musical jandals :D

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:08

    I have High School Musical jandals :D

    ohh dear

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 14:09

    ohh dear

    I have never worn them outside the house, but if I did they'd leave "HSM" imprints in the sand

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 14:10

    Ping --> Something for the Weekend: Rubicks “Worship”

    http://theweekendpollution.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/something-for-the-weekend-rubicks-worship/

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 14:10

    In other clothing news, today I bought some tights that on the outside look like normal tights but inside they have a fleece lining. My legs are so warm and snug I feel like I'm wearing pajamas. Best purchase ever.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:10

    I have never worn them outside the house, but if I did they'd leave "HSM" imprints in the sand

    ohhhhh dear..

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:11

    In other clothing news, today I bought some tights that on the outside look like normal tights but inside they have a fleece lining. My legs are so warm and snug I feel like I'm wearing pajamas. Best purchase ever.

    you need fleece tights in Australia? how cold is it here?

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 14:12

    you need fleece tights in Australia? how cold is it here?

    cold is relative, everyone aclimatises to where they are :)

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 14:12

    cold is relative, everyone aclimatises to where they are :)

    our minimum today was 9. I'm cold when its anything under about 16 :D

  • RubberGoat23/06/2011 at 14:16

    our minimum today was 9. I'm cold when its anything under about 16 :D

    It's a cold summer in Denmark so far - 14 in the mornings, 17 in the evenings. This time last year it was mid-20's and quite warm. At least the sun doesn't set until 10.30pm...

    I hope it picks up soon, my parents are coming to visit!

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:16

    our minimum today was 9. I'm cold when its anything under about 16 :D

    hehe i can completely get why you feel so cold with the temperature, bbc says it's around 15 where i am today but i'm walking around with a tshirt on, am guessing you'd need a jumper :)

    hehe love things like this tho :)

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:22

    @EliGP Fernando Alonso, today... http://twitpic.com/5fnjy9

    ehehehe!!

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:22

    @EliGP Fernando Alonso, today... http://twitpic.com/5fnjy9

    :)

  • Mark23/06/2011 at 14:24

    I have a sudden urge to jump on his head to reach some stars.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 14:29

    @EliGP Fernando Alonso, today... http://twitpic.com/5fnjy9

    ehehehe!!

    :D

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 14:37

    pretty sure this is all down to christine: http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/23/technology/pottermore_harry_potter_ebook/

    "Harry Potter series author J.K. Rowling will, for the first time, release the famous children's stories in e-book form in October"

    odd that she's bypassing amazon though. i assumed ebooks would mean the death of the publishing industry. didn't think they might also enable bypassing of virtual bookstores too.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:38

    "Harry Potter series author J.K. Rowling will, for the first time, release the famous children's stories in e-book form in October"

    Finally!

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 14:39

    Finally!

    i sort of understand the delay if they're doing everything themselves. clearly not happy to give steve 30%.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:41

    i sort of understand the delay if they're doing everything themselves. clearly not happy to give steve 30%.

    Mm. She doesn't need the money, but if it's the principal of the thing then maybe. She coulda said: "We're working on it." though.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 14:44

    Mm. She doesn't need the money, but if it's the principal of the thing then maybe. She coulda said: "We're working on it." though.

    agreed, but her publishers may have wanted a big stick to beat amazon/apple with. lest they become too powerful like in the music industry. *shrugs*

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 14:45

    i sort of understand the delay if they're doing everything themselves. clearly not happy to give steve 30%.

    every Kindle owning Potter fan I know has already got pirated copies years ago and thus will not be giving anyone any money. I know plenty of people still will, but its never good to be late to the party :)

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:45

    pretty sure this is all down to christine: money.cnn.com/201…rry_potter_ebook/

    "Harry Potter series author J.K. Rowling will, for the first time, release the famous children's stories in e-book form in October"

    the video of her announcement is kinda strange.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:47

    agreed, but her publishers may have wanted a big stick to beat amazon/apple with. lest they become too powerful like in the music industry. *shrugs*

    I suppose if anyone can change things, Harry Potter can.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 14:48

    I suppose if anyone can change things, Harry Potter can.

    :)

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:50

    the video of her announcement is kinda strange.

    Is it? Seems okay to me.

    I don't want any of that nonsense though, I just want the books on my screen.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:53

    Is it? Seems okay to me.

    i think i just found it kinda strange. It could be because i don't find any part of the site appealing from what she said.. yay for ebooks but it should have been done ages ago.. and i'm not sure i'm overly interested in all the 'new insights' she's been holding onto for years, if they were important they'd be in the books.

    i dunno, i just think release it as an ebook by all means but is all the other stuff needed?

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 14:53

    every Kindle owning Potter fan I know has already got pirated copies years ago and thus will not be giving anyone any money. I know plenty of people still will, but its never good to be late to the party

    audio might be interesting, have they been available before?

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:55

    i dunno, i just think release it as an ebook by all means but is all the other stuff needed?

    Oh right, yes exactly. I thought you meant the video itself was weird, but I thought it was well-produced.

    I couldn't care less about any of that concept stuff, I just want to throw away my physical copies.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 14:56

    I couldn't care less about any of that concept stuff, I just want to throw away my physical copies.

    you still have them??

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:56

    you still have them??

    Yes because there were no ebooks!

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:56

    I bet she makes them really expensive though.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 14:58

    Oh right, yes exactly. I thought you meant the video itself was weird, but I thought it was well-produced.

    ohh no, although it did remind me of Jonsi's videos a bit. Should have been more clear :)

    I couldn't care less about any of that concept stuff, I just want to throw away my physical copies.

    hehe! When i was sitting at the tennis the other day the woman next to me had a kindle and it looked sooo beautiful! if i read alot then i'd be tempted but i much prefer a good old fashioned book.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 14:59

    hehe! When i was sitting at the tennis the other day the woman next to me had a kindle and it looked sooo beautiful! if i read alot then i'd be tempted but i much prefer a good old fashioned book.

    I read a lot more now than I ever did with physical books.

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 15:00

    I read a lot more now than I ever did with physical books.

    me too. I know I'll never understand the paper love though, I care what it says not what its written on but so many people are like 'oh but the paper! it smells good!'

    I don't get it.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:01

    I read a lot more now than I ever did with physical books.

    ohhh that's interesting, because of the novelty of the ebook? or practicality?

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:02

    ohhh that's interesting, because of the novelty of the ebook? or practicality?

    Practicality. A selection of books are with me wherever I am now. Never lose my place, no bookmark required, and no heavy lifting.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:02

    I don't get it.

    i love paper books - I cannot "get" e-books or GP+ on digital. Everytime GP+ comes out, I just print it off - much easier to read

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 15:02

    ohhh that's interesting, because of the novelty of the ebook? or practicality?

    for me its because its always in my bag. Before if I was enjoying a book I'd take it to work and read it on my lunchbreaks but that was only if I was reading something good at the time and it fitted in my bag. Now I read on most of my breaks because theres always something to read.

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 15:03

    i love paper books - I cannot "get" e-books or GP+ on digital. Everytime GP+ comes out, I just print it off - much easier to read

    I can't get ebooks on anything other than e-ink. Can't read on my phone, can't read on my laptop, can't read on my ipad.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:03

    me too. I know I'll never understand the paper love though, I care what it says not what its written on but so many people are like 'oh but the paper! it smells good!'

    I get it, but it's like 5% bad compared to 95% good things about ebooks.

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 15:04

    I get it, but it's like 5% bad compared to 95% good things about ebooks.

    even though I've always been a reader after reading peoples reactions to Kindle it almost makes me feel like a "bad" reader because I've literally never smelled a book or get chills from opening a book with a perfect spine for the first time. Apparently if you don't get these things you're a heathen :(

    I'm going to go to sleep now, Its been two years and I still never enjoy ebook talk :D

    byeeee

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:04

    JK: "This year for the first time I have downloaded e-books and it's miraculous"

    so she never even tried them before? doh!

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:05

    i love paper books - I cannot "get" e-books or GP+ on digital. Everytime GP+ comes out, I just print it off - much easier to read

    real tears.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:05

    me too. I know I'll never understand the paper love though, I care what it says not what its written on but so many people are like 'oh but the paper! it smells good!'

    ohh for me it's not the smell (i don't get that either).. As a dyslexic every time i finish a book it feels like an achievement as it can be pretty tricky if i'm tired etc. Visually seeing and feeling the progress through the book, in addition to the story helps me to continue reading through the tricky patches when the words feel like they're dancing all over the page :)

    Having a physical book makes me feel it's more than just a document..

    It's mainly a mental thing for me, i completely agree that a kindle is more practical and if i ever make it to f1, or find myself travelling alot i'd invest in one solely because i don't want to carry heavy books around!

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 15:06

    ohh for me it's not the smell (i don't get that either).. As a dyslexic every time i finish a book it feels like an achievement as it can be pretty tricky if i'm tired etc. Visually seeing and feeling the progress through the book, in addition to the story helps me to continue reading through the tricky patches when the words feel like they're dancing all over the page :)

    but the Kindle tells you how much % you've read! A paper book can never be that precise about your progress!

    I'm leaving, I swear.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:07

    but the Kindle tells you how much % you've read! A paper book can never be that precise about your progress!

    Mmm, percentage.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:07

    for me its because its always in my bag. Before if I was enjoying a book I'd take it to work and read it on my lunchbreaks but that was only if I was reading something good at the time and it fitted in my bag. Now I read on most of my breaks because theres always something to read.

    ahh that's interesting. I think for me that would be the case (with traveling etc) for example i'm currently reading a massive book, which is just too heavy to keep in my bag all the time.

  • Amy23/06/2011 at 15:08

    Mmm, percentage.

    I am 47% of the way through what I'm reading at the moment and it makes me deliriously happy to know I still have more than half left because I'm really enjoying it. And I have just as much enjoyment still to come! Weeee! Maybe I'll go read instead of sleep.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:09

    real tears.

    Not when digital devices often leave me in actual tears of discomfort trying to read them.

    Mmm, percentage.

    Generally if I'm enjoying a book I don't realise how far I am into it, because I'm too engrossed in it to care.

    If I'm checking how far I am through it, it's probably not that good a book

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:10

    I am 47% of the way through what I'm reading at the moment and it makes me deliriously happy to know I still have more than half left because I'm really enjoying it. And I have just as much enjoyment still to come! Weeee! Maybe I'll go read instead of sleep.

    Either go or stay! :)

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:11

    Generally if I'm enjoying a book I don't realise how far I am into it, because I'm too engrossed in it to care.

    That's nice. I just like numbers.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:11

    but the Kindle tells you how much % you've read! A paper book can never be that precise about your progress!

    ohhh!! that i didnt know! that's interesting i like the idea of having a percentage.. makes up for not seeing you're about half way.. :)

    Plus the techy ink think on the kindle is sooo cool! I read on my phone a little (for example christine's awesome book) but i can only really do that inside, couldn't use an ipad to read on, although i wonder if the coloured plastic sheets i sometimes need to use would work okay with a kindle screen?

    I have an app for my mac that lets me change the screen tint to help me read ebooks on my pc (GP+ etc) but reading from a computer isn't the same for me :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:12

    That's nice. I just like numbers.

    You could have so starred in Tron

    :)

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:14

    You could have so starred in Tron

    No idea, sorry.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:14

    Not when digital devices often leave me in actual tears of discomfort trying to read them.

    gp+ i so good on screen, i can't imagine how it translates to paper, it must print the wrong way up?

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:15

    now that looks strange.... - http://campl.us/bO4m

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:16

    now that looks strange.... - http://campl.us/bO4m

    It'd never work!

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:16

    gp+ i so good on screen, i can't imagine how it translates to paper, it must print the wrong way up?

    It prints only sideways and in reverse - I've become a decode master

    ;)

    No idea, sorry.

    A really good film from the 80's that was badly remade recently

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:16

    A really good film from the 80's that was badly remade recently

    I've heard of it, obviously. Just don't get the numbers reference. Never mind, I'll see it one day.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:17

    It'd never work!

    i love the idea of JB being the one to make Lewis want to leave Mclaren but itll never happen! :)

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:17

    It prints only sideways and in reverse - I've become a decode master

    you have to admit, that's madness.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:18

    showed this to christine earlier, we need to redo our vows or something: http://ebookfriendly.com/2011/06/23/kindle-used-at-a-wedding-ceremony-picture/

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:18

    i love the idea of JB being the one to make Lewis want to leave Mclaren but itll never happen! :)

    The only place I can even vaguely picture him is Mercedes.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:19

    i love the idea of JB being the one to make Lewis want to leave Mclaren but itll never happen!

    newey isn't going to come back to mclaren, lewis has to go to him.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:19

    you have to admit, that's madness.

    It seems like a lot of effort. If something isn't in a format I'm comfortable with, I just look at something else.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:19

    you have to admit, that's madness.

    O course, that may not be strictly true

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:19

    The only place I can even vaguely picture him is Mercedes.

    hehe with Schumi? that would be good. I suppose i've never even thought he would move.. like ever.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:20

    It seems like a lot of effort. If something isn't in a format I'm comfortable with, I just look at something else.

    Ehhh.... that was a joke. It prints in order like every pdf.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:20

    hehe with Schumi? that would be good. I suppose i've never even thought he would move.. like ever.

    It must be something to do with black/white/silver overalls. He wouldn't suit RBR, and definitely not red Ferrari.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:20

    Ehhh.... that was a joke. It prints in order like every pdf.

    Yea, but even printing.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:21

    Ehhh.... that was a joke. It prints in order like every pdf.

    but it's a landscape magazine?

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 15:21

    even though I've always been a reader after reading peoples reactions to Kindle it almost makes me feel like a "bad" reader because I've literally never smelled a book or get chills from opening a book with a perfect spine for the first time. Apparently if you don't get these things you're a heathen :(

    Apparently you're equally a heathen if you don't throw away everything you own and make it digital... worthy of all the scorn to be heaped upon you..

    Maybe some people just enjoy reading a physical book or not buying something they already own just because a new format has come along. Like vinyl to CD or CD to MP3.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:21

    Yea, but even printing.

    If it means my eyes don't hurt as much, then yeah.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:21

    newey isn't going to come back to mclaren, lewis has to go to him.

    i suppose.. he just.. i can't picture him not being with the team that love him so much.

  • Mark23/06/2011 at 15:21

    It must be something to do with black/white/silver overalls. He wouldn't suit RBR, and definitely not red Ferrari.

    He's been in red overalls for McLaren this season and looked fine.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:22

    If it means my eyes don't hurt as much, then yeah.

    That's all I'm saying. If I'm not comfortable with the format, I look at something else. That's my only argument.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:22

    He's been in red overalls for McLaren this season and looked fine.

    Definitely didn't :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:22

    but it's a landscape magazine?

    Yeah

    Apparently you're equally a heathen if you don't throw away everything you own and make it digital... worthy of all the scorn to be heaped upon you..

    Hehehee... I know that feeling

    ;)

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:22

    It must be something to do with black/white/silver overalls. He wouldn't suit RBR, and definitely not red Ferrari.

    oh my goodness he would not suit the ferrari.. and i see what you mean about the RBR overalls too. I thought JB looked a bit odd in the silvery shirts in 2010 to be honest, am pleased they've now changed to black :)

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:22

    Maybe some people just enjoy reading a physical book or not buying something they already own just because a new format has come along.

    some people, like JK Rowling, were judging the format without even trying it. look what happened when she did.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 15:25

    some people, like JK Rowling, were judging the format without even trying it. look what happened when she did.

    I'm all for trying new things but I can't stand people being judgemental against those who mix and match.. clearly it makes little sense to order a book on Amazon when you can download it but to me, if I really don't care about the format, if something is a good deal and is in front of me in town I'll have it.

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:26

    He's been in red overalls for McLaren this season and looked fine.

    Definitely didn't :)

    Niether of them did - http://tinyurl.com/67b36ze

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:26

    Niether of them did - http://tinyurl.com/67b36ze

    No JB at Ferrari either then.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:26

    I'm all for trying new things but I can't stand people being judgemental against those who mix and match..

    the idea of taking an e-mag and printing it out seems completely alien to me. like buying a car and pushing it or something. *looks baffled*

  • lou23/06/2011 at 15:28

    No JB at Ferrari either then.

    no, never. :) Am pleased we have this sorted :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:28

    the idea of taking an e-mag and printing it out seems completely alien to me. like buying a car and pushing it or something. *looks baffled*

    It's easy really. I enjoy GP+, but the digital version is painful on my eyes (I struggle with all on screen documents), so I print it out and read.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 15:29

    the idea of taking an e-mag and printing it out seems completely alien to me. like buying a car and pushing it or something. *looks baffled*

    I don't really understand that either, looks alright on the screen to me.. That's like if you want an electronic book, buying a paper one and scanning it in :)

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:29

    So, rather than go round in circles, hey look, Alguersuari doesn't think he's the one who'll be fired: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92526

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:30

    I don't really understand that either, looks alright on the screen to me.. That's like if you want an electronic book, buying a paper one and scanning it in :)

    :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:31

    I don't really understand that either, looks alright on the screen to me.. That's like if you want an electronic book, buying a paper one and scanning it in :)

    It's nothing to do with the screen or the e-book, but rather my eyes.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:31

    oooh, autosport have new share buttons. what's inshare?

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:32

    oooh, autosport have new share buttons. what's inshare?

    LinkedIn, I think.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:33

    LinkedIn, I think.

    the CV site? i'm so out of touch!

  • Mark23/06/2011 at 15:33

    LinkedIn, I think.

    I just clicked on it and it went to a LinkedIn site.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:34

    the CV site? i'm so out of touch!

    Since November 2010 apparently.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 15:36

    Since November 2010 apparently.

    never paid it any attention. f1 people must use it a lot?

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:37

    never paid it any attention. f1 people must use it a lot?

    It's a fairly large CV type site. I used it for about a year until I realised I didn't need it at the time. That and chaps from the UAE that I had never heard of were trying to "add me"

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 15:39

    F1M ping: http://www.f1minute.com/news/turbo-powered-v6-engines-delayed-to-2014

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 15:40

    It's a fairly large CV type site. I used it for about a year until I realised I didn't need it at the time. That and chaps from the UAE that I had never heard of were trying to "add me"

    Nick?

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 15:40

    Nick?

    Nope

  • Mark23/06/2011 at 15:41

    F1M ping: www.f1minute.com/…s-delayed-to-2014

    Does the picture show a man weeing steam?

  • Journeyer23/06/2011 at 16:12

    now that looks strange.... - http://campl.us/bO4m

    Hmmm.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 16:49

    IndyCar news... the team testing the 2012 development car this summer will be Bryan Herta Autosport, the driver is Dan Wheldon. This was mumbled at Indy but nobody expected them to go and win that race. :)

    http://indycar.com/news/show/55-izod-indycar-series/43377-herta-team-wheldon-named-2012-testers/

  • Sidepodcast Classics23/06/2011 at 17:00

    Enjoy a little something from the sidepodcast.com back catalogue.

    - Daily: 20th May 2011

    Originally published 20/05/2011

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 17:42

    DC+me just badly lost a pitstop competition against Jenson +Lewis. Painful. I asked for a stewards enquiry, Lewis said he knew the way there

    - @MBrundleF1

    :)

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 17:43

    DC+me just badly lost a pitstop competition against Jenson +Lewis. Painful. I asked for a stewards enquiry, Lewis said he knew the way there

    :)

    :)

  • Sidepodcast Update23/06/2011 at 17:45
  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 17:45

    Small amount of F1 interest at the Nordschliefe this weekend for the Nurburgring 24.. Mark Blundell and Johnny Herbert sharing a VW. Cue bored driver Twitter banter :)

    Mark: Please take them away, me and @johnnyherbertf1 having a dip in to the haribo... Take them away NOW!! yfrog.com/h0o5cdqj

    Johnny: Not me buddy Blundell yfrog.com/kjz3iecj

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 18:08

    IndyCar news... the team testing the 2012 development car this summer will be Bryan Herta Autosport, the driver is Dan Wheldon. This was mumbled at Indy but nobody expected them to go and win that race. :)

    That was rumoured a few months back when it emerged Wheldon wouldn't have a seat, but died down again soon afterward. Nice to see he will at least be driving, but expect complaints if he does well next year.

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 18:19

    Good evening

    * should that be ghosts of Grands Prix past instead of ghosts of Grand Prixs past?

    I believe the plural is indeed Grands Prix [with the French silent 's']

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 18:26

    Uh-oh Adrian

    "Sutil plays down speculation over drive as Lux files official criminal complaint"

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92543

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 18:40

    geekysenna: Also @bsenna was impressing me with his laptop repair skills http://yfrog.com/kefpxsrj in the @officialLRGP hospitality

  • Lukeh23/06/2011 at 18:41

    geekysenna: Also @bsenna was impressing me with his laptop repair skills http://yfrog.com/kefpxsrj in the @officialLRGP hospitality

    #bff

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 18:43

    Oh my word !!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBSQ5Zz18xg&feature=player_embedded

    :o

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 18:46

    Ehhhhhh Heikki...

    "@lloydwolf: hey heikki you going to win this weekend? or just hopeing to be in the top 10?”

    @H_Kovalainen Win

  • Lukeh23/06/2011 at 18:47

    Ehhhhhh Heikki...

    "@lloydwolf: hey heikki you going to win this weekend? or just hopeing to be in the top 10?”

    @H_Kovalainen Win

    Well he's an optimistic bloke I don't see why not ;)

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:01

    geekysenna: Also @bsenna was impressing me with his laptop repair skills http://yfrog.com/kefpxsrj in the @officialLRGP hospitality

    Bloody Lee MacKenzie gets everywhere

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:04

    "Sutil plays down speculation over drive as Lux files official criminal complaint"

    www.autosport.com…port.php/id/92543

    Why is Lux filing a complaint in Germany for an incident that occurred 2 months go in China? It all smells fishy

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:07

    Thought:

    Will Jarno Trulli step down after the Italian GP?

    If he is serious about retiring should he not have a competitive car, where better than at his home circuit. It would also give Tony Fernandes an opportunity to let Karun Chandhok get himself bedded into the team prior to the Indian GP.

    Not saying it will happen, but...

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:08

    Some folks in Austin talking pro / against F1

    http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/channel6/

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:10

    Will Jarno Trulli step down after the Italian GP?

    I'm a little tired of his whining about the steering and think it's just frustration and not being at a top team so late in his career

    If he is serious about retiring should he not have a competitive car, where better than at his home circuit. It would also give Tony Fernandes an opportunity to let Karun Chandhok get himself bedded into the team prior to the Indian GP.

    Doubt it'll happen mid season but he may announce something. Sounds like we are being warmed up to the idea

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:11

    ...t would also give Tony Fernandes an opportunity to let Karun Chandhok get himself bedded into the team prior to the Indian GP.

    Or announce Karun for 2012 there

  • RG23/06/2011 at 19:12

    Will Jarno Trulli step down after the Italian GP?

    Why would he do it considering he is of course leading the only championship that matters, the New Teams Championship?

    Though, in all seriousness, doubt he'll step down in the middle of the season, but I can see this being his last.

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:12

    Evening all

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:13

    Wow - the guy speaking in Austin at the moment is a moron. The race shouldn't be in Austin because Bernie's daughter has a big new house?

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:14

    Evening all

    Hi Steven

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:14

    Hi steven

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:14

    Why would he do it considering he is of course leading the only championship that matters, the New Teams Championship?

    Maybe he is not happy about the lack of publicity that championship is getting this season

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:15

    Wow - the guy speaking in Austin at the moment is a moron. The race shouldn't be in Austin because Bernie's daughter has a big new house?

    Best excuse ever.

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:16

    Some folks in Austin talking pro / against F1

    Just because things can be televised shouldn't mean they are

    After a day of meetings, this seems a bit too 'fly on the wall' for me :D

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:16

    Best excuse ever.

    You just missed a true moron. He was so "upset" at the immorality, that he started shouting in the most dramatic fashion possible.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 19:16

    Just because things can be televised shouldn't mean they are

    says the man who live streamed some drilling :)

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:17

    says the man who live streamed some drilling :)

    :D

  • RG23/06/2011 at 19:18

    Maybe he is not happy about the lack of publicity that championship is getting this season

    Perhaps it is something that the organisers could work on

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:18

    I have no problems with people of Austin being against the project, but if someone's going to speak, he could at least have a intelligent argument.

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:19

    says the man who live streamed some drilling :)

    Correction. I was doing the drilling not filming

    #BlameAlex

    You lot were watching so which is worse? ;)

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:19

    I have no problems with people of Austin being against the project, but if someone's going to speak, he could at least have a intelligent argument.

    NIMBYs

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:19

    This woman in Austin doesn't seem to realised that the race is already on the calendar.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:20

    NIMBYs

    Well, there are some solid arguments against, but sadly idiots speak occasionally.

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 19:20

    This woman in Austin doesn't seem to realised that the race is already on the calendar.

    Is that the calendar which changes every week?

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:20

    Is that the calendar which changes every week?

    That's the one.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 19:22

    You lot were watching so which is worse? ;)

    i'm not watching the austin thing.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 19:22

    This woman in Austin doesn't seem to realised that the race is already on the calendar.

    Is that the calendar which changes every week?

    :)

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:22

    i'm not watching the austin thing.

    No, the drilling :D

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:23

    Well, there are some solid arguments against, but sadly idiots speak occasionally.

    "Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:23

    They are giving public money to Bernie?

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:24

    "Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"

    :D

    They are giving public money to Bernie?

    In a roundabout way... yes.

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 19:25

    In a roundabout way... yes.

    they're naming a roundabout after bernie?

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:26

    they're naming a roundabout after bernie?

    Only after he sells it back to the city council

    ;)

  • lou23/06/2011 at 19:26

    they're naming a roundabout after bernie?

    Button gets a bridge, Hawthorne gets a drive, and Bernie gets a roundabout. sounds about right :)

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:28

    Interesting that the editor of Autoweek would tell Austin not to do business with Bernie. Using USF1 as an example is not great though

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:28

    they're naming a roundabout after bernie?

    I didn't think the Americans liked roundabouts, are you sure it's not a 4-way stop?

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:29

    Interesting that the editor of Autoweek would tell Austin not to do business with Bernie. Using USF1 as an example is not great though

    He didn't - he referenced the past circuits

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:31

    Wow, John Elkann - Chairman of FIAT and CEO of Exor [also holders of Juventus] is only 35

    [insert stunned smiley here]

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 19:32

    I didn't think the Americans liked roundabouts, are you sure it's not a 4-way stop?

    knowing bernie, it'll be a shortcut.

  • Turkey Machine23/06/2011 at 19:33

    Interesting that the editor of Autoweek would tell Austin not to do business with Bernie. Using USF1 as an example is not great though

    Good if you want a bad model of the toaster making industry.

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:33

    knowing bernie, it'll be a shortcut.

    Very true, with a misleading sign

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:33

    He didn't - he referenced the past circuits

    USF1 was mentioned to as well as Indy etc

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:33

    knowing bernie, it'll be a shortcut.

    With sprinklers?

  • Mr C23/06/2011 at 19:33

    USF1 was mentioned to as well as Indy etc

    ouch.

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:34

    Wow, John Elkann - Chairman of FIAT and CEO of Exor [also holders of Juventus] is only 35

    How is that possible? Must be related to someone with power

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:34

    USF1 was mentioned to as well as Indy etc

    Mis-reference - 6th paragraph of the letter

    http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110622/FREE/110629946

    (I oddly already had it open)

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:35

    How is that possible? Must be related to someone with power

    Gianni Agnelli's grandson & heir

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:35

    Gianni Agnelli's grandson & heir

    FIAT will never leave the hands of that family

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:35

    Gianni Agnelli's grandson & heir

    That would do it. Not a very Italian name

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:37

    That would do it. Not a very Italian name

    ...the first son of Margherita Agnelli de Pahlen, a painter and a poet and her first husband, Alain Elkann, a French-Italian journalist and writerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Elkann

    [doesn't sound too French either]

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:38

    Gianni Agnelli's grandson & heir

    That would do it. Not a very Italian name

    I think I remember an interview with him about 10 years ago in Car magazine. Pipped for future greatness. They were right

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:38

    [doesn't sound too French either]

    John Philip Jacob Elkann? sounds English/American/Jewish rather than French/Italian

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:40

    John Philip Jacob Elkann? sounds English/American/Jewish rather than French/Italian

    Maybe the born in New York part came into play

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:41

    Maybe the born in New York part came into play

    Did part of his education in Brazil. Why?

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:43

    I like this environmentalist in Austin. The F1 race is going to result in more car sales in Austin.

    Stunning logic

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:44

    I like this environmentalist in Austin. The F1 race is going to result in more car sales in Austin.

    Comparing 1992 to now? Oh dear. The council haven't done their research, but he hasn't either.

  • Turkey Machine23/06/2011 at 19:44

    Stunning logic

    American logic in the western states showing it's top of the tree.

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:45

    Did part of his education in Brazil. Why?

    Primary school, I imagine that's where his family were at the time

    Stripping assets most likely :D

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:46

    Comparing 1992 to now? Oh dear. The council haven't done their research, but he hasn't either.

    He also mentioned the ground level ozone figures for the last USGP in Mexico City. Mexico City is enormous the addition of an F1 crowd is not going to make the pollution 20% worse

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:47

    He also mentioned the ground level ozone figures for the last USGP in Mexico City. Mexico City is enormous the addition of an F1 crowd is not going to make the pollution 20% worse

    And Mexico's pollution was fine before the F1 road show came to town?

  • Turkey Machine23/06/2011 at 19:48

    He also mentioned the ground level ozone figures for the last USGP in Mexico City. Mexico City is enormous the addition of an F1 crowd is not going to make the pollution 20% worse

    Er, the US GP never was in Mexico City. Nice of them to get that right too.

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:48

    And Mexico's pollution was fine before the F1 road show came to town?

    Exactly

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 19:48

    Er, the US GP never was in Mexico City. Nice of them to get that right too.

    Maybe the Texans have plans for Mexico

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 19:49

    Er, the US GP never was in Mexico City. Nice of them to get that right too.

    It's difficult for them to reference countries other than their neighbours if they are not aware that there are other countries or what they might be called ;)

  • Lukeh23/06/2011 at 19:50

    Have been a bit quiet to make this, PING!

    http://gridwalktalk.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/what-if/

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:52

    This latest guy annoys me...

    All events by there very nature create pollution. Even they're so worried by pollution, then the may as well ditch SxSW too.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 19:54

    Have been a bit quiet to make this, PING!

    Oooohhh... Bruno at Williams could be a decent fit

  • Pat W23/06/2011 at 19:59

    Have been a bit quiet to make this, PING!

    gridwalktalk.word…11/06/23/what-if/

    Excellent

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 20:02

    I have given up on the Austin council meeting because the people opposed to the race have not done even the most basic homework. In ten minutes I could have made a vastly better case than all of them have so far.

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 20:03

    I have given up on the Austin council meeting because the people opposed to the race have not done even the most basic homework. In ten minutes I could have made a vastly better case than all of them have so far.

    You could say the same for the pro-people too

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 20:05

    You could say the same for the pro-people too

    Agreed but they annoy me less.

  • Christine23/06/2011 at 20:07

    Ping: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/news/steer-well-clear

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 20:14

    Suggest Lotus/Gasgoyne get #Rankings points for tweeting his sailing trip to Valencia

  • Alison23/06/2011 at 20:15

    Eeeeevening :D

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 20:15

    hi alison

  • Leigh O'Gorman23/06/2011 at 20:16

    ...and my Austin feed is dying now. I think that may be it for me

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 20:16

    Eeeeevening :D

    'allo

  • Alison23/06/2011 at 20:17

    Hi. I'm so sleepy. Sincerely regretting agreeing to do an extra day tomorrow.... Glutton for punishment.

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 20:17

    Eeeeevening :D

    Hi Alison

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 20:18

    He he

    "Drive it like you stole it" http://twitpic.com/5flgiw

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 20:19

    Hi. I'm so sleepy. Sincerely regretting agreeing to do an extra day tomorrow.... Glutton for punishment.

    I hear bed is great for symptoms such as this

  • RG23/06/2011 at 20:19

    For anyone interested, Codemasters have released their first Dev Diary for F1 2011: http://uk.gamespot.com/shows/start-select/?tag=topslot;title;1

    Starts 7 minutes in.

  • Alison23/06/2011 at 20:20

    I hear bed is great for symptoms such as this

    Not before 10. It's a rule. Stops me getting jet lagged and waking up at like 4am.

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 20:20

    "Drive it like you stole it" http://twitpic.com/5flgiw

    It's the only way

  • Lukeh23/06/2011 at 20:21

    Solid stuff from Rog from what I saw :)

  • Lukeh23/06/2011 at 20:21

    oops.. im in the wrong thread aren't i...

    gah. sorry :(

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 20:22

    "Drive it like you stole it" http://twitpic.com/5flgiw

    It's the only way

    Inspired by this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13753081

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 20:25

    Inspired by this? www.bbc.co.uk/new…-england-13753081

    Drifting at Santa Pod? I thought that was just a drag strip

  • 4chords23/06/2011 at 20:55

    Evening folks, hope you've all had a good day :)

    A quick question to all Grand Prix Plus readers, has anyone tried reading it on the Kindle?

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 20:57

    Evening folks, hope you've all had a good day :)

    A quick question to all Grand Prix Plus readers, has anyone tried reading it on the Kindle?

    Hi 4chords

    Not sure that'd work too well on a monchrome eInk display

    Maybe Amy's tried it, don't know if she subscribes.

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 20:58

    Inspired by this? www.bbc.co.uk/new…-england-13753081

    Drifting at Santa Pod? I thought that was just a drag strip

    Apparently they have "Drift What Ya Brung" events too

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 20:59

    Apparently they have "Drift What Ya Brung" events too

    I was thinking about the layout. A quarter mile straight is not great for drifting

  • 4chords23/06/2011 at 21:02

    Not sure that'd work too well on a monchrome eInk display

    Yeah, it probably won't be great for the pictures, but I'm wondering for reading the articles really. We already have one eReader in the household, but considering picking up a Kindle as a second option. Main issue we have at the moment is that GP+ is in landscape, not so great for reading on a portrait only screen.

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 21:03

    Yeah, it probably won't be great for the pictures, but I'm wondering for reading the articles really. We already have one eReader in the household, but considering picking up a Kindle as a second option. Main issue we have at the moment is that GP+ is in landscape, not so great for reading on a portrait only screen.

    It's iPad/Tablet or your usual 'puter I think

  • Bassano23/06/2011 at 21:03

    I was thinking about the layout. A quarter mile straight is not great for drifting

    I think there's some open space for a makeshift track near the start line

  • Steven Roy23/06/2011 at 21:06

    I think there's some open space for a makeshift track near the start line

    I figure that they must use roads from the paddock the drag strip and the return roads from the end of the strip

  • lou23/06/2011 at 22:50

    Wimbledon post for tomorrow is done :)

    i've even got the wimbledon daily posts done on time this week. 3 early posts written before the event this week :) bit proud of myself..

    :)