Hello one and all to this, my first official daily post for Sidepodcast. It's a great honour to be given the chance of writing for what has become a well-established and respected organisation for F1 fans. Not only that, but as a Scottish writer, it means Stephen Roy can no longer hog all the limelight.

By the time this post goes out, the Canadian Grand Prix weekend will have been and gone. Normally, we would have watched the race unfold to it's conclusion in the middle of the afternoon GMT. However, because the Grand Prix was in North America, and because the race was wet, red-flagged for 2 hours and under the safety car four times, the chequered flag didn't come out until a little past 10pm GMT - that's over 5-and-a-half hours-worth of BBC F1 coverage - which doesn't give me too much time to mull over the events of the race.

Having said that, there were one or two things we would normally have known for certain before the event even started: that Sebastian Vettel will have won the race by a gap of about half-an-hour, Michael Schumacher will have been extremely disappointed with his performance after such a promising Qualifying, and Lewis Hamilton will have maintained in the post-race interviews that McLaren are closer than ever to beating Red Bull, even though he's been saying that since Australia. At least, that's what I would have said if it was a regular, dry race. Oh well...

In the meantime, now that the race weekend is done and dusted, I thought I'd like to share with you some memorable Canadian GP moments from years gone by. They are in no particular order and you'll notice that they are all links to YouTube clips, as I don't know how to embed stuff.

  • We begin with an excellent example of how not to start a Grand Prix from 1980. Here, Alan Jones and Nelson Piquet get together and cause a bit of a pile-up. Oops. Note: This was the time when the start/finish line used to be where the back straight is now.
  • A rare example of Michael Schumacher making a mistake in a Ferrari. In this case, it was 1999, where he got it wrong on the final chicane, ultimately hitting the wall.
  • The 1995 race was a very memorable day for Jean Alesi. It was here where he won his first and only Grand Prix in a Ferrari. Not only that, but it was also his birthday. That's not a bad way of celebrating it.
  • The 2008 race was one for Lewis Hamilton to forget. This was the time when he smashed into the back of Kimi Raikkonen's Ferrari at the pit lane exit during a safety car period. His explanation was that he was so busy pressing buttons on his steering wheel that he didn't notice the red light indicating to stop. This was compounded by the fact that Nico Rosberg did the same thing to him a moment later. Oh well...
  • Here's some footage of the very first Canadian Grand Prix, which took place in a wet Mosport Park in 1967. It doesn't say who wins the race, and I couldn't be bothered to find out.
  • The first two corners at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is usually fraught with danger at the start of a race, more so than in most other tracks. This was certainly true in 1998, for the start and the re-start.
  • 1999 again. And a humorous moment from the post-qualifying press conference. Those were the days...
  • Next, a horrible accident that never seems to lose it's horrible-ness. The good news was that Robert Kubica survived this accident in 2007 and made up for it by winning the race 1 year later.
  • In this example from 1991, Aguri Suzuki's car turns into a mobile Towering Inferno, so much so that he grabs a fire extinguisher from a marshall and assists in putting the fire out. An idea copied by a Mr Kovalainen 19 years later in Singapore.
  • And finally, there must be no better feeling for a racing driver to win a Grand Prix in their home country. Apart from winning the championship, obviously. Gilles Villeneuve got the pleasure of achieving this in 1978.

So let's hear it for Montreal and another incredible Grand Prix. And one final thought: wasn't it weird watching a Formula 1 race in the evening? And for those who watched the race in North America, wasn't it weird watching a Formula 1 race in the afternoon? And for those who watched the race in Asia and Australasia, wasn't it weird watching a Formula 1 race in the dead of morning?

368 responses

  • Steven Roy12/06/2011 at 23:12

    Glad someone is finally taking that heavy limelight off me

  • Colin M...12/06/2011 at 23:14

    You'll notice the deliberate mistake though. Christine's put her own name as the author and not mine.

  • Christine12/06/2011 at 23:15

    Ooops, my bad. Fixed it. Apologies Colin.

  • Kai12/06/2011 at 23:17

    Nice daily, Colin, thanks and hello. :)

  • lou12/06/2011 at 23:17

    Mrs C i have sent you my voicemail so i don't have to do it tomorrow when surrounded by Tennis fans :)

    i don't think i sound as silly as i did after JB's championship win but it's probably not far off.

  • Colin M...12/06/2011 at 23:18

    Never mind. Thanks & hello too. Can't stay long though, it's quarter past midnight & I've work today.

  • Kai12/06/2011 at 23:19

    Never mind. Thanks & hello too. Can't stay long though, it's quarter past midnight & I've work today.

    It feels like that here, so I'm going to sign off myself.

    I'll check out all the links tomorrow. I like the idea of revisiting old racing footage.

    Good night.

  • Colin M...12/06/2011 at 23:20

    Goodnight.

  • lou12/06/2011 at 23:22

    i will have to check out your links tomorrow Colin but what a wonderful idea! Love the daily, thank you and welcome to the daily writer's crew :)

    I must get some sleep now before my busy day in london tomorrow! speak to you all soon! night! xx

  • Steven Roy12/06/2011 at 23:22

    Night Kai

  • Steven Roy12/06/2011 at 23:23

    I must get some sleep now before my busy day in london tomorrow! speak to you all soon! night! xx

    Night

  • Steven Roy12/06/2011 at 23:26

    Interesting links Colin

    I love when people find a different way to write a daily.

  • Sidepodcast Update12/06/2011 at 23:45
  • Adie13/06/2011 at 00:01

    I have a question for you Mr C if you talk to Joe anytime soon:

    "Exactly why did JB and Lewis receive drive through penalties for 'speeding' under the SC" If you look at the following neither driver set quickest sector times during the first 4 laps of the race. So I'm confused as to why the Stewards decided to dish out drive throughs...

    http://i.imgur.com/IF2eb.png

    http://i.imgur.com/C6v6c.png

    http://i.imgur.com/6Ek6x.png

    http://i.imgur.com/6Ek6x.png

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 00:08

    "Exactly why did JB and Lewis receive drive through penalties for 'speeding' under the SC" If you look at the following neither driver set quickest sector times during the first 4 laps of the race. So I'm confused as to why the Stewards decided to dish out drive throughs...

    I'm also confused on what happened here. Were they behind a safety car?

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 00:11

    I'm also confused on what happened here. Were they behind a safety car?

    Normally for someone to set a noticeably fast time behind the SC there has to be a gap in the queue and there didn't seem to be any gaps that I saw

  • Adie13/06/2011 at 00:12

    I'm also confused on what happened here. Were they behind a safety car?

    It's the laps from the first laps of the race under the SC - I understand the drivers are given delta targets they can't go quicker than - but neither driver set the quickest sector times so I must have missed something?

    But on that note it's bedtime!

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 00:14

    Normally for someone to set a noticeably fast time behind the SC there has to be a gap in the queue and there didn't seem to be any gaps that I saw

    It's the laps from the first laps of the race under the SC - I understand the drivers are given delta targets they can't go quicker than - but neither driver set the quickest sector times so I must have missed something?

    I'll try and look into it. Nothing in the FIA press releases.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 00:16

    But on that note it's bedtime!

    Night

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 01:59

    Christchurch has had another earthquake. Make it stop!

  • Pamela13/06/2011 at 04:07

    Christchurch has had another earthquake. Make it stop!

    Yeah I heard about this. Bad times. Wasn't there an earthquake last Friday as well? :(

    How are you coping at work?

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 04:47

    only an hour to go! Day has gone quick which is nice.

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 05:06

    "Exactly why did JB and Lewis receive drive through penalties for 'speeding' under the SC" If you look at the following neither driver set quickest sector times during the first 4 laps of the race. So I'm confused as to why the Stewards decided to dish out drive throughs...

    Jenson sped on his exit from the pits, you can see him racing sutil. It wont show up on the sector times as his stop was after the timing line to start sector 1.

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 05:07

    only an hour to go! Day has gone quick which is nice.

    sleeping time went stupidly quickly. i would like it back please!

  • Sidepodcast Update13/06/2011 at 05:45
  • Amy13/06/2011 at 06:10

    freedom! Quickest 8 hours ever.

  • Pamela13/06/2011 at 06:39

    freedom! Quickest 8 hours ever.

    Straight to bed? :)

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 06:47

    Straight to bed? :)

    still not tired! So far I have blended the soup I put in the slow cooker this morning, done a load of dishes and put on a load of washing. Might go lie down now though, I'm sure I'll zzz as soon as I'm horizontal.

  • Pamela13/06/2011 at 06:51

    still not tired! So far I have blended the soup I put in the slow cooker this morning, done a load of dishes and put on a load of washing. Might go lie down now though, I'm sure I'll zzz as soon as I'm horizontal.

    Wow, I'm impressed!

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 06:51

    Wow, I'm impressed!

    I think I'm broken :D

  • Pamela13/06/2011 at 06:52

    I think I'm broken :D

    hehe, that may be true :)

  • Alex Andronov13/06/2011 at 06:55

    I think I'm broken :D

    Now who broke Amy? Because who ever did is going to have to repair her before they leave ;)

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:08

    I rate the race 9/10. It was a masterclass from JB but DRS for me played too much and outcome in the final battle...ie schumi getting mugged on the straights. Mclaren without a doubt took the right choice to set the car up for a wet race......a fact that seems to be overlooked amongst the euphoria.

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:09

    I rate the race 9/10. It was a masterclass from JB but DRS for me played too much and outcome in the final battle...ie schumi getting mugged on the straights. Mclaren without a doubt took the right choice to set the car up for a wet race......a fact that seems to be overlooked amongst the euphoria.

    DRS took away from the race a bit for me too. I would agree - Schumi didn't have the pace for the win, but I think he could've hung on to at least 3rd without DRS. Then again, that probably would've meant another Vettel win.

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:18

    DRS took away from the race a bit for me too. I would agree - Schumi didn't have the pace for the win, but I think he could've hung on to at least 3rd without DRS. Then again, that probably would've meant another Vettel win.

    DRS is awesome.

    I think each zone needs its own detection point but other than that its great.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:21

    How is it awesome? Where's the fairness for the defending driver?

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:25

    DRS is awesome.

    Was never really keen on DRS. Even more so here - it meant Schumacher had no chance holding off Webber and Button. Without it, Schumacher would've controlled the dry line and held them back to the end.

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:28

    Was never really keen on DRS. Even more so here - it meant Schumacher had no chance holding off Webber and Button. Without it, Schumacher would've controlled the dry line and held them back to the end.

    Without it shumacher wouldnt have had to have defended, he could have toodled round 2 secs a lap slower and nobody would be able to pass, just like the old days.

    Now we have it, can you imagine the reaction if they took it away?

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:29

    How is it awesome? Where's the fairness for the defending driver?

    No reason they cant keep up and pass them back using DRS on the following lap.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 09:30

    Was never really keen on DRS. Even more so here - it meant Schumacher had no chance holding off Webber and Button. Without it, Schumacher would've controlled the dry line and held them back to the end.

    well, like Petrov held Alonso in Abu Dhabi :-)

    I still haven't made up my mind if I like the DRS or not. What I know already is that I do not like the fact that this year we are looking at season long DRS experiment in races that count ... But then, how else can they fine tune the rules ...

    I think we simply have to get used to it and accept that DRS is fact of life these days. I definitely like it more that burning fuel for extra downforce or the F-duct of 2010 ...

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:30

    Without it shumacher wouldnt have had to have defended, he could have toodled round 2 secs a lap slower and nobody would be able to pass, just like the old days.

    Given the speed differential, he'd have to defend anyway. Remember how he fought off Webber in the Lap 50+ range when DRS was still disabled. It was by no means a walk in the park for Michael.

    Now we have it, can you imagine the reaction if they took it away?

    I'd love it. Honestly, the tyres are a MUCH bigger reason for the overtaking-fest we have this year than DRS. DRS is overrated.

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 09:30

    No reason they cant keep up and pass them back using DRS on the following lap.

    Well it only gives advantage at set points on the lap. What if your car isn't all that fast at that point relative to the other one? Button was clearly much faster than Shumi but Webber was only about a car length in front as they went over the line at the end. He was not clearly faster.

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:32

    Well it only gives advantage at set points on the lap. What if your car isn't all that fast at that point relative to the other one? Button was clearly much faster than Shumi but Webber was only about a car length in front as they went over the line at the end. He was not clearly faster.

    I think the close gap at the flag is down to... Schumi having DRS.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 09:33

    I think the close gap at the flag is down to... Schumi having DRS.

    or WEB knowing that P2 is out of question and P4 car is quite far behind... not being investigated and not expecting any penalties it did not matter for WEB how far ahead of MSC he would finish ...

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:34

    This is becuase the overtaking driver has a chance to massively pull away after breezing past in the DRS zone....ie JB passing Schumi....he passed him in the first DRS zone and then in the 2nd zone still had the benefit of DRS and duly pulled even further from schumi despite having already overtook him previouly. That just doesn't seem fair at all...

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 09:34

    oh, just found out that not only Red Bull with Jaime but also Red Hot Chilli Peppers are coming to town !

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:35

    This is becuase the overtaking driver has a chance to massively pull away after breezing past in the DRS zone....ie JB passing Schumi....he passed him in the first DRS zone and then in the 2nd zone still had the benefit of DRS and duly pulled even further from schumi despite having already overtook him previouly. That just doesn't seem fair at all...

    That is a different issue as to whether DRS is awesome or not. I think with 2 zones they need 2 detection points

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 09:35

    or WEB knowing that P2 is out of question and P4 car is quite far behind... not being investigated and not expecting any penalties it did not matter for WEB how far ahead of MSC he would finish ...

    Possibility of time penalties etc. in front would make it reckless not to minimise your time on the clock.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:37

    It's interlinked....what's the difference between activating DRS or the leading car simply pulling over and slowing down to let the chasing car overtake? It's fake overtaking.....

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 09:38

    I'd love it. Honestly, the tyres are a MUCH bigger reason for the overtaking-fest we have this year than DRS. DRS is overrated.

    But tyres are so boring.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 09:38

    That is a different issue as to whether DRS is awesome or not. I think with 2 zones they need 2 detection points

    I haven't heard anyone commenting on whether the second DRS zone had any benefit other than for those who overtook in Zone 1 to pull away easier while in Zone 2. The straight between the Wall of Champions and first chicane is quite short ...

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:38

    or WEB knowing that P2 is out of question and P4 car is quite far behind... not being investigated and not expecting any penalties it did not matter for WEB how far ahead of MSC he would finish ...

    Very good point there.

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:39

    I haven't heard anyone commenting on whether the second DRS zone had any benefit other than for those who overtook in Zone 1 to pull away easier while in Zone 2. The straight between the Wall of Champions and first chicane is quite short ...

    Speaking of, NO ONE hit the Wall of Champions during the race. Given the conditions, that is some achievement.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 09:40

    Speaking of, NO ONE hit the Wall of Champions during the race. Given the conditions, that is some achievement.

    I think there is bigger chance of people hitting it in dry than in wet ...

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:41

    It's interlinked....what's the difference between activating DRS or the leading car simply pulling over and slowing down to let the chasing car overtake? It's fake overtaking.....

    One would be letting a car past? DRS gives you the chance to take the place back the following lap if you are quick enough.

    It just gets rid of the artificial blocking that wings on cars create.

    I will agree to getting rid of DRS, only if front, rear and any other kind of wings are banned :)

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 09:41

    I will agree to getting rid of DRS, only if front, rear and any other kind of wings are banned :)

    I argued that with refuelling but they still stole it :(

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:42

    Speaking of, NO ONE hit the Wall of Champions during the race. Given the conditions, that is some achievement.

    The kerbs were wet which meant they avoided them, normally the accidents come from people misjudging the entry onto the kerb

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:43

    I argued that with refuelling but they still stole it :(

    I never really liked refueling, I guess because i first started watching F1 with it, and most of the period of it being there was marred with shumacher making the sport unwatchable

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:43

    I never really liked refueling, I guess because i first started watching F1 with it, and most of the period of it being there was marred with shumacher making the sport unwatchable

    Started watching f1 without it

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:45

    I will agree to getting rid of DRS, only if front, rear and any other kind of wings are banned

    Yr missing my point....DRS doesn't just put the chasing driver alongside....it puts him another 100 odd yards down the road in front...you might as will just pick one car up with a giant hand and place it down in front of whoever was being chased.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 09:46

    Started watching f1 without it

    I remember watching some race long long ago. I do not remember much from those days but I remember excited commentator talking about Nelson Piquet (the older one) running light and fast and actually stopping to refuel. I asume that must have been around the time when that habit became popular

  • James13/06/2011 at 09:48

    Yr missing my point....DRS doesn't just put the chasing driver alongside....it puts him another 100 odd yards down the road in front...you might as will just pick one car up with a giant hand and place it down in front of whoever was being chased.

    It hasn't done that at every race though, it comes down to the length of the zones.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 09:48

    Yr missing my point....DRS doesn't just put the chasing driver alongside....it puts him another 100 odd yards down the road in front...

    it does not. may be it did in Montreal because of the second DRS zone but in the previous races with 1 zone only the zones were just about long enough to overtake

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:51

    I remember watching some race long long ago. I do not remember much from those days but I remember excited commentator talking about Nelson Piquet (the older one) running light and fast and actually stopping to refuel. I asume that must have been around the time when that habit became popular

    They started refueling in the early 80's, It was banned though by 91/92 when i first started watching

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:51

    It hasn't done that at every race though, it comes down to the length of the zones.

    True that does help....still think it's fake though.

    For instance when we saw Schumi being closed down with 5 laps or so left to run with MW and JB behind him....didn't most people know in the pit of their stomach regardless how schumi drove it was inevitable the other two were going to breeze past?

    I'm no Schumi fan but his last few laps proved everything that is wrong with DRS...spectacular speed, luck, team decisions to put him in that position...on for it to be handed back soon as JB and MW got a sniff of his car. It's not fair....this place would've melted down if it was JB in the lead and DRS enabled another driver to breeze past and win

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:53

    I remember watching some race long long ago. I do not remember much from those days but I remember excited commentator talking about Nelson Piquet (the older one) running light and fast and actually stopping to refuel. I asume that must have been around the time when that habit became popular

    That was 1982. He couldn't convert it to race wins, but everyone saw it was effective. Refuelling became widespread in 1983, before it was banned again for 1984. It wasn't relegalized until 1994.

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:54

    I'm no Schumi fan but his last few laps proved everything that is wrong with DRS...spectacular speed, luck, team decisions to put him in that position...on for it to be handed back soon as JB and MW got a sniff of his car. It's not fair....this place would've melted down if it was JB in the lead and DRS enabled another driver to breeze past and win

    I disagree, he used his tires up too quickly to get into that position, thus he had slowed down and button & webber could catch him. In the old days that would be fine as nobody could pass, but with the DRS they were able too. If shumacher had the pace they wouldnt have got within 1 sec, and if they had he could have closed back up to have a go at them the following lap

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 09:54

    They started refueling in the early 80's

    ... and that's why I don't remember much more than "Nelson Piquet" and "refueling" :-)

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:56

    I disagree, he used his tires up too quickly to get into that position, thus he had slowed down and button & webber could catch him. In the old days that would be fine as nobody could pass, but with the DRS they were able too. If shumacher had the pace they wouldnt have got within 1 sec, and if they had he could have closed back up to have a go at them the following lap

    That would be more of a car issue than a driver issue. Still, racing is about the combination of car and driver. DRS tips the balance too much in the car's favor, lessening the value of driver skill.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:56

    I disagree, he used his tires up too quickly to get into that position, thus he had slowed down and button & webber could catch him. In the old days that would be fine as nobody could pass, but with the DRS they were able too. If shumacher had the pace they wouldnt have got within 1 sec, and if they had he could have closed back up to have a go at them the following lap

    Even if he was a second a lap slower on older tyres he'd of hung on a helluva lot better than yesterday if the chasing pack didn't have push to pass buttons.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:57

    I disagree, he used his tires up too quickly to get into that position, thus he had slowed down and button & webber could catch him. In the old days that would be fine as nobody could pass, but with the DRS they were able too. If shumacher had the pace they wouldnt have got within 1 sec, and if they had he could have closed back up to have a go at them the following lap

    Would you of felt the same if it was JB that got done by DRS in the last few laps?

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:57

    Even if he was a second a lap slower on older tyres he'd of hung on a helluva lot better than yesterday if the chasing pack didn't have push to pass buttons.

    Exactly, we would be bored to tears with a trulli train and nobody having a hope of going past

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 09:58

    No we wouldn't...the tyres would've been enough...

    So what you want is a race to end for the quickest car.....not the best driver

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 09:58

    Even if he was a second a lap slower on older tyres he'd of hung on a helluva lot better than yesterday if the chasing pack didn't have push to pass buttons.

    Exactly, we would be bored to tears with a trulli train and nobody having a hope of going past

    I always value a great defensive race when I see one. Vettel in Monaco was one, Schumacher in Canada was another.

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:59

    Would you of felt the same if it was JB that got done by DRS in the last few laps?

    Yes, That's not really relevant.

    The issues is cars piling up huge snakes behind them because nobody can pass. The DRS gives people a chance. If the passed driver is quick enough he can take his place back

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 09:59

    I always value a great defensive race when I see one. Vettel in Monaco was one, Schumacher in Canada was another.

    You dont need to drive defensive though, the cars just cant get close enough to pass

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 10:00

    You dont need to drive defensive though, the cars just cant get close enough to pass

    He was showing great defensive driving the 3 laps before the DRS was enabled.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:02

    How about the onus is on the skill of the following driver to actually overtake?..

    Why should the lead car have to justify it's right to beign there by letting the following driver through and then having to catch back up to prove the point?

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:03

    Again DRS come back to how you fundementally think a race should be run...

    Quickest car to cover 200 miles

    or

    First driver to complete 200 miles

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:04

    How about the onus is on the skill of the following driver to actually overtake?..

    that is the problem with the current aero. even the best of the crop driving cars almost a second faster than the car they were following had no chance to overtake or even to get close as recently as in November 2010 ...

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:05

    that is the problem with the current aero. even the best of the crop driving cars almost a second faster than the car they were following had no chance to overtake or even to get close as recently as in November 2010 ...

    I defo agree the aero is a problem...

    Hence why many of said the new Pirelli tyres made up for this deficit....DRS then add's on top of that....

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:12

    Hence why many of said the new Pirelli tyres made up for this deficit....DRS then add's on top of that....

    Pirelli tyres only added extra variable that makes one car several seconds slower than the other at some point of the race. and so the slower one becomes a sitting duck. the question is how long will this effect last. already now we can see the tyres are getting more durable, teams are making them to last longer, degrade less ...

    I am not happy with that DRS thing but at the moment it is the only way how the quicker car can can have a chance to overtake the slower one ahead that is not exactly a sitting duck ... it is not ideal but it is definitely better solution than the F-duct that made the drivers to perform all kinds of silly stunts in the cockpit when the cars were at the highest speeds ...

  • RubberGoat13/06/2011 at 10:16

    I had this discussion about DRS on Twitter last night, but I think it's worth repeating some of it here.

    Yes, DRS is 'fake', but the problem is that the aero doesn't allow for a car to make up time on another because of dirty air. I would much rather a faster car can overtake easily than not at all (like Alonso in Abu Dhabi last year). That's not to say I enjoyed the easy overtaking moves last night, but I accept that in order to make the racing better we need a DRS.

    As for the argument that Schumacher was robbed and couldn't defend, well he did manage to in a much slower car against Webber, and if DRS made overtaking that easy, then surely he could have fought back. The simple answer is that his car was a lot slower and all he would have done would be to make a Trulli train.

    I don't think the tyres do enough on their own and I think DRS worked perfectly in Canada - the easy overtakes were big speed differentials between cars anyway, but it allowed for much faster cars to overtake when they normally would have not been able to. And we would not have had such a great finish without DRS, because Vettel and Button were on equal tyres and it enabled Button to close up on Vettel to the point where Vettel was driving like Ken Block trying to stay ahead and finally cracked - that was a brilliant finish and I really do think the whole rules package works brilliantly. It does surprise me when I see negative reactions to a race like yesterday and hear accusations it's fake and F1 is pandering to the X-factor generation. I feel like by enjoying the race I'm in the lowest common denominator and that these people think I'm not a real F1 fan just because I enjoyed the race.

    And that's not aimed at anyone in particular, just a collection of voices I have heard or read about on teh interwebs lately. Just my two cents ;)

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:16

    I am not happy with that DRS thing but at the moment it is the only way how the quicker car can can have a chance to overtake the slower one ahead that is not exactly a sitting duck ... it is not ideal but it is definitely better solution than the F-duct that made the drivers to perform all kinds of silly stunts in the cockpit when the cars were at the highest speeds ...

    Yeah the F-Duct was pretty mad...(esp the Ferrari solution)...

    I'm not 100% against DRS yet but I am going that way after the last few races, It's far more succesfull then was probably conceived

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:19

    I don't think the tyres do enough on their own and I think DRS worked perfectly in Canada - the easy overtakes were big speed differentials between cars anyway, but it allowed for much faster cars to overtake when they normally would have not been able to. And we would not have had such a great finish without DRS, because Vettel and Button were on equal tyres and it enabled Button to close up on Vettel to the point where Vettel was driving like Ken Block trying to stay ahead and finally cracked - that was a brilliant finish and I really do think the whole rules package works brilliantly. It does surprise me when I see negative reactions to a race like yesterday and hear accusations it's fake and F1 is pandering to the X-factor generation. I feel like by enjoying the race I'm in the lowest common denominator and that these people think I'm not a real F1 fan just because I enjoyed the race.

    How is the 'racing' better if it's fake? (as you've stated DRS is fake).....how can that truly be 'racing'...

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:21

    I had this discussion about DRS on Twitter last night, but I think it's worth repeating some of it here.

    I read bits and pieces of your Twitter exchanges :-)

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:23

    How is the 'racing' better if it's fake? (as you've stated DRS is fake).....how can that truly be 'racing'...

    can't really say the racing is fake. and yes, it truly is racing, someone still must have the courage to go 300+ km and hour and knowing there are only centimeters wide margins for error while trying to outbreak the car ahead with 100 m or so before the turn . may look easy on TV but it ain't on the track. it is easier but not easy ... ask those who left the track to explore the walls and runoff areas ...

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:23

    The point I'm trying to make is that DRS seems to suit people when it's the right result. I know sidepodcast is clearly a pro JB website, but I don't think many people who say they're ok living with DRS or it's fantastic would've thought the same if it was JB who was overtaken and lost positions from it.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:25

    can't really say the racing is fake. and yes, it truly is racing, someone still must have the courage to go 300+ km and hour and knowing there are only centimeters wide margins for error while trying to outbreak the car ahead with 100 m or so before the turn . may look easy on TV but it ain't on the track. it is easier but not easy ... ask those who left the track to explore the walls and runoff areas ...

    Having the courage to do something isn't the same as fariness...

    I'm not doubting the courage of any of them...I get what you're saying but fundementally I do not agree that a chasing car being given a huge speed advantage is truly racing.

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 10:25

    How is the 'racing' better if it's fake? (as you've stated DRS is fake).....how can that truly be 'racing'...

    the DRS part is fake, but it enables real racing in other parts of the track that wouldn't otherwise have happened.

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 10:25

    The point I'm trying to make is that DRS seems to suit people when it's the right result. I know sidepodcast is clearly a pro JB website, but I don't think many people who say they're ok living with DRS or it's fantastic would've thought the same if it was JB who was overtaken and lost positions from it.

    You would be quite suprised, It isnt really that pro JB. Although i think a lot of people were glad Vettel didnt win.

    In the pub i was in even the Ferrari fans were cheering when button passed him.

    I dont think that comes into this argument though. Its about DRS in general, rather than a specific driver.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:27

    I'm not doubting the courage of any of them...I get what you're saying but fundementally I do not agree that a chasing car being given a huge speed advantage is truly racing.

    but we can say exactly the same about the fake racing the artificially quickly degrading tyres create ...

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:28

    I just realized I am trying hard to convince myself that DRS is OK :-)

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 10:28

    but we can say exactly the same about the fake racing the artificially quickly degrading tyres create ...

    That's ridiculous as well particularly in a sport that's trying to be "green"

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 10:28

    As for the argument that Schumacher was robbed and couldn't defend, well he did manage to in a much slower car against Webber, and if DRS made overtaking that easy, then surely he could have fought back. The simple answer is that his car was a lot slower and all he would have done would be to make a Trulli train.

    Gilles - Jarama '81. Didn't have the fastest car by a mile, but won anyway. His greatest win ever to me.

    With DRS, he would've been lucky to be on the podium.

    Racing is not just overtaking, it's about driving the best race you can.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:29

    I've been following this site for 4 years....there's huge amounts of JB love on here...it is more a JB site then another other driver...not biased as such....but JB always seems to be looked on with more favour in situations then any other driver....he can do little wrong at times.

    I think anybody was happy yesterday it wasn't Vettel...

    No it's not 100% relevant to the debate about DRS but I do feel some of the DRS love wouldn't be the same if the results were different.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:29

    That's ridiculous as well particularly in a sport that's trying to be "green"

    I believe that except that rubber that is left on the track they do recycle the rest. not that the recycling is energy free but it is not all waste

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:31

    but we can say exactly the same about the fake racing the artificially quickly degrading tyres create ...

    That comes down to stratergy....not just sat behind someone hoping you're 1 second behind so you can press the magic DRS button

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:33

    To come back to the percived JB bias...

    Look how quick everyone was yesterday to slam Lewis for the accident with JB....very little doubt given at all to Lewis....I wonder what was said after people had heard JB apologised for his move with Lewis...

    If was anyone else that hit Alonso...they'd of been blamed...JB gets the benefit of the doubt it seems...

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:34

    Racing is not just overtaking, it's about driving the best race you can.

    well, lots of people admit that the aero got ridiculous and while keeps increasing the cornering speeds it killed racing.

    I hoped that when the rule change came few years back banning all those winglets, horns, dumbo ears, tower and other mess the cars would leaner and cleaner. they got a bit but they hanged a snow plough at the front of the cars and a rake at the back and we were back in the abbys ... just look at those front wings - there are more winglets, mini wings, ears etc than used to be on entire cars pre-2009 ...

    instead of going simple FIA went hi tech with DRS ... :-)

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 10:35

    Look how quick everyone was yesterday to slam Lewis for the accident with JB....very little doubt given at all to Lewis....I wonder what was said after people had heard JB apologised for his move with Lewis...

    Lewis didn't do himself any favours in Monaco.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:35

    That comes down to stratergy....not just sat behind someone hoping you're 1 second behind so you can press the magic DRS button

    can't agree. it is not about strategy - it is about supplying tyres that will not last (pirelli) versus tyres that easily go full distance hard or soft (bridgestone). bridgestone version became boring and after Montreal 2010 pirelli had the inspiration

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:36

    To come back to the percived JB bias...

    the only bias I see here is pro-Franck and even that is longer what it used to be :-)

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 10:37

    the only bias I see here is pro-Franck and even that is longer what it used to be :-)

    Silly invisible man.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:38

    In Monaco yes...but not yesterday....we shouldn't automatically jump straight on him..

    But Christine I've been coming here for years and it's always been slightly slightly more JB love then any other british driver...

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:38

    Silly invisible man.

    saw him on TV yesterday in Peugeot garage

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 10:40

    But Christine I've been coming here for years and it's always been slightly slightly more JB love then any other british driver...

    Sure. The first ever podcast proclaimed that I love Jenson.

    I don't care much for him either way anymore, but it makes no odds. Sidepodcast is the sum of it's parts. We welcome all views here, pro-JB or not.

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 10:40

    But Christine I've been coming here for years and it's always been slightly slightly more JB love then any other british driver...

    Really? I'm not a JB fan at all but as far as I see it, all the drivers have their fans and their detractors.

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 10:40

    saw him on TV yesterday in Peugeot garage

    Good luck finding him in a week :)

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:41

    Really? I'm not a JB fan at all but as far as I see it, all the drivers have their fans and their detractors.

    and even pro-Schumi views are allowed :-) #democracy

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:41

    Oh sure everyone has their fans....across many different teams..

    The point i'm trying to make is JB is slightly revered ahead of everyone else on here...

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 10:41

    The point i'm trying to make is JB is slightly revered ahead of everyone else on here...

    Fair enough. If that's how you see it.

    We're quick to call him an idiot for driving through the wrong garage too though.

  • James13/06/2011 at 10:42

    I don't care much for him either way anymore, but it makes no odds. Sidepodcast is the sum of it's parts. We welcome all views here, pro-JB or not.

    Petrov all the way!

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:42

    We're quick to call him an idiot for driving through the wrong garage too though.

    that was not idiotic ! that was calculated attempt to take away Vettel's tyres !

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 10:43

    you know, I've seen about 20 DRS debates on here and no ones ever said "oh yes, your view has completely convinced me to change my mind" :D

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 10:44

    that was not idiotic ! that was calculated attempt to take away Vettel's tyres !

    Hehehe. Cheating!

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 10:44

    Gilles - Jarama '81. Didn't have the fastest car by a mile, but won anyway. His greatest win ever to me.

    Personally I didnt enjoy that race. But Gilles was mega that day.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:44

    It's how it's always been on here...don't get me wrong we're not talking PF-1 style fanboys on here, but it does frustrate me when there's a JB and Lewis incident most people on here always seem to go with JB being in the right....even if it's a clear racing incident....

    Driving into your own garage is fail....hard to explain it any other way!

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:44

    just received email that managed to beat the spam filter:

    Hello. Our detective agency to complete the task, the evidence mulberries

    We are waiting for payment of the agreed manner.

    struggling to see the purpose of this kind of spam ...

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 10:46

    Lewis didn't do himself any favours in Monaco.

    Exactly. It wasn't JB bias yesterday. Lewis was paying the price for previous actions.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:47

    Exactly. It wasn't JB bias yesterday. Lewis was paying the price for previous actions.

    If it was Lewis that would've hit Alonso (ie JB vs FA yesterday).....benefit of doubt or Hammy driving like a lunatic?

    Lewis's previous actions seem to over created a mindset where he's always in the wrong.....a lot of times it is his fault, but not always.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:49

    Exactly. It wasn't JB bias yesterday. Lewis was paying the price for previous actions.

    talking about Lewis - I wonder what his team really thinks. Of course in public they will stand by him but I wonder what they are telling him behind closed doors. I personally enjoy watching him but I am also not the guy in the other other car :-)

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 10:50

    you know, I've seen about 20 DRS debates on here and no ones ever said "oh yes, your view has completely convinced me to change my mind" :D

    True. What bothers me is how people can watch races as exciting as this year and then say "yeah, it's artificial and fake and not too enjoyable." Thi is the most exciting season for years and I'm starting to feel like a fool for enjoying it, because people are telling me I'm watching a sham.

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:50

    talking about Lewis - I wonder what his team really thinks. Of course in public they will stand by him but I wonder what they are telling him behind closed doors. I personally enjoy watching him but I am also not the guy in the other other car

    I think he's losing the team.....MW always looks happier when JB wins...

    I think he (LH) tries too hard to be likeable....might have the opposite effect with his team mates...

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 10:51

    talking about Lewis - I wonder what his team really thinks. Of course in public they will stand by him but I wonder what they are telling him behind closed doors. I personally enjoy watching him but I am also not the guy in the other other car :-)

    I think jenson should be the team leader now. He's better this year.

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 10:51

    I think jenson should be the team leader now. He's better this year.

    kill me

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 10:51

    I think jenson should be the team leader now. He's better this year.

    Their car isn't really good enough to need a team leader at the moment :)

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 10:52

    kill me

    Me first :)

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:52

    I think jenson should be the team leader now. He's better this year.

    No way! Jenson was better then lewis at the start last year....who was top by the end?

    Macca don't need a team leader with these two...it wouldn't work...JB is no Heikki, DC etc

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:52

    Their car isn't really good enough to need a team leader at the moment :)

    the car is not good enough but their driver is 2nd in championship, ahead of a driver in the best car on the grid ...

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 10:53

    the car is not good enough but their driver is 2nd in championship, ahead of a driver in the best car on the grid ...

    True enough.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 10:53

    Hi folks,

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 10:54

    kill me

    this is my showing my anti-JB bias, just balancing the site out :D

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 10:55

    the car is not good enough but their driver is 2nd in championship, ahead of a driver in the best car on the grid ...

    Exactly. And Lewis is having a dip. So back jenson and work on Lewis behind the scenes before he cracks even more.

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 10:55

    OK, time to check out. have to rush home to watch the Canadian GP with the 5 year old who was not allowed to stay up last night :-)

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 10:55

    @tonyfernandes: On my way to new york with mike and heikki. Big announcement on tuesday. Big sponser for lotus. Very important for us.”

    Interesting...

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 10:55

    So how is everyone today?

  • James13/06/2011 at 10:57

    @tonyfernandes: On my way to new york with mike and heikki. Big announcement on tuesday. Big sponser for lotus. Very important for us.”

    Interesting...

    Joe mentioned General Electric being a possibility http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/f1-sarkozy-and-general-electric/

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 10:58

    Exactly. And Lewis is having a dip. So back jenson and work on Lewis behind the scenes before he cracks even more.

    I think Lewis is behind 70% etc of his troubles...but he's letting the other bits get to him.

    I think he needs a little bit of love from the team to bring him back from the naughty corner....ie like a parent does with a stroppy teenager.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 10:58

    Joe mentioned General Electric being a possibility joesaward.wordpre…general-electric/

    I see - Le Mans got in the way of me checking out Joe's posts over the weekend

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 11:01

    Look what arrived on my desk as I got back to London !!

    http://twitpic.com/5ayyzj

    :D

  • F1Wolf13/06/2011 at 11:02

    @tonyfernandes: On my way to new york with mike and heikki. Big announcement on tuesday. Big sponser for lotus. Very important for us.”

    Tony is the proof that spelling does not matter :-)

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 11:04

    If you do a google streetview on the streets around Wimbledon the little yellow man is wearing a white outfit with a white headband and if you click on him to move him he starts waving a tennis racquet.

    <3 Google.

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 11:06

    If you do a google streetview on the streets around Wimbledon the little yellow man is wearing a white outfit with a white headband and if you click on him to move him he starts waving a tennis racquet.

    That is so cool!

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 11:06

    If you do a google streetview on the streets around Wimbledon the little yellow man is wearing a white outfit with a white headband and if you click on him to move him he starts waving a tennis racquet.

    Hehehe :D

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 11:06

    That is so cool!

    I don't know if he always does that or if its just because the tournament is about to start but it made me smile :)

  • Alex Andronov13/06/2011 at 11:09

    If you do a google streetview on the streets around Wimbledon the little yellow man is wearing a white outfit with a white headband and if you click on him to move him he starts waving a tennis racquet.

    love it :)

  • Alex Andronov13/06/2011 at 11:10

    Their car isn't really good enough to need a team leader at the moment :)

    I shall declare Christine team leader... Then we'll wait to see if they fix the car in which case we'll go for one of the drivers :)

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 11:19

    points for koivalainen ;)

    http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/sports/2011/06/13/koivalainen.video.diary.cnn.html

  • lou13/06/2011 at 11:27

    Oh my god this is soooo cool! can see Andy castle, sue and john Lloyd! soooonn! close! ahhhhh

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 11:28

    Petroc was going way too fast here under waved yellows, the stewards should be investigating things like this rather than run of the mil racing incidents http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13748154.stm

    Way more dangerous

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 11:28

    Oh my god this is soooo cool! can see Andy castle, sue and john Lloyd! soooonn! close! ahhhhh

    Yay!

  • lou13/06/2011 at 11:29

    Ahhh they're doing their first bit on centre court! I'll wave! Eeek!

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 11:31

    Ahhh they're doing their first bit on centre court! I'll wave! Eeek!

    Where are you? I'll put the TV on :)

  • lou13/06/2011 at 11:33

    Where are you? I'll put the TV on :)

    opposite the umpire behind sue now.. in the middle.. :) can see directly down the centre of the net. Can't believe these tickets are 10 pound!

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 11:35

    opposite the umpire behind sue now.. in the middle.. :) can see directly down the centre of the net. Can't believe these tickets are 10 pound!

    Let's hope it stays dry!

  • lou13/06/2011 at 11:36

    Judy and his gf are here! Due to stay dry says Mr castle.

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 11:37

    Judy and his gf are here! Due to stay dry says Mr castle.

    Phew. You deserve some luck after all that rain before.

  • lou13/06/2011 at 11:39

    Phew. You deserve some luck after all that rain before.

    :) my friend and I can't believe our luck! We've met a guy we made friends with on Friday too! Hehe

  • lou13/06/2011 at 11:42

    My friend says there is a Murray sign behind is, so look put for that :)

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 11:44

    wheres my remote. time to stalk lou.

  • Sidepodcast Update13/06/2011 at 11:45
  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 11:46

    Petroc was going way too fast here under waved yellows, the stewards should be investigating things like this rather than run of the mil racing incidents news.bbc.co.uk/sp…_one/13748154.stm

    Way more dangerous

    I'd say the same for the Sauber too actually

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 11:46

    They have music to walk on to? Weird.

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 11:46

    oh grrr its delayed on tv. GRRRR. I can't stay up that late :(

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 11:49

    I see Ms Judy.

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 11:51

    What row are you on? :)

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 11:55

    Ping: http://www.f1minute.com/news/jenson-button-wins-a-two-part-canada-grand-prix

  • lou13/06/2011 at 12:06

    Murray is nearly opposite us! Yaay. Also he talks to himself a lot.

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 12:07

    Murray is nearly opposite us! Yaay. Also he talks to himself a lot.

    has he started swearing yet? :D

  • lou13/06/2011 at 12:13

    What row are you on? :)

    row i so 9 rows up. I have the entrance to block 6 directly on my left and my friend to my tight

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 12:17

    row i so 9 rows up. I have the entrance to block 6 directly on my left and my friend to my tight

    I am going to stream on bbc once I finish watching masterchef :)

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 12:18

    Good morning (or afternoon) everyone :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 12:26

    hi marti

  • lou13/06/2011 at 12:34

    awww. Poor Murray. Gosh its hot. I hadn't thought it would be this hot!

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 12:48

    awww. Poor Murray. Gosh its hot. I hadn't thought it would be this hot!

    BBC say its in the low twenties http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/8?&search=london&itemsPerPage=10&region=uk

    I have 36! http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/252?&search=dubai&itemsPerPage=10&region=world

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 12:50

    BBC weather forecast is not known for its accuracy

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 12:51

    I have 36! news.bbc.co.uk/we…&region=world

    You're not out in the sun playing tennis though eh....

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 12:52

    Is Murray going bald up top?

  • Nick13/06/2011 at 12:53

    You're not out in the sun playing tennis though eh....

    How do you know!

  • lou13/06/2011 at 12:53

    I love being here. :)

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 12:55

    It's the laps from the first laps of the race under the SC - I understand the drivers are given delta targets they can't go quicker than - but neither driver set the quickest sector times so I must have missed something?

    The delta times are set so that they are considerably slower than the standard racing speed. I seem to vaguely remember a guideline of 40% slower but I can't recall the regulation off the top of my head and given the day I've had, I don't trust myself to find it at this time.

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 12:56

    How do you know!

    Hehehe :)

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 12:57

    Incidentally, you know the stewards have had a bad day when there are 11 documents under "Sunday" for their reports...

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 13:08

    Murray is getting as bad at break points as Roger.

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 13:08

    Murray is getting as bad at break points as Roger.

    :D

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 13:12

    would love to stay and watch the end of this but I think I have to call it a night to have any chance of getting a run in tomorrow.

    Night all :)

  • lou13/06/2011 at 13:13

    Murray makes comments to his mum and girlfriend so much, I hadn't noticed before. Lol Awww!

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 13:13

    night amy

  • Amy13/06/2011 at 13:14

    Murray makes comments to his mum and girlfriend so much, I hadn't noticed before. Lol Awww!

    he's not normally saying very nice things ;)

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 13:26

    he's not normally saying very nice things ;)

    Today is no exception :P

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 13:35

    Good job Murray

  • lou13/06/2011 at 13:37

    Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!

  • lou13/06/2011 at 13:38

    he's not normally saying very nice things ;)

    he's not been too bad today...

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 13:38

    Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!

    More :D

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 13:39

    he's not been too bad today...

    No but just at that moment they zoomed in on his face and the commentator had to apologise :P

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 13:43

    No but just at that moment they zoomed in on his face and the commentator had to apologise :P

    Can't understand why they do that. They must have some painfully fragile viewers

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 13:45

    Can't understand why they do that. They must have some painfully fragile viewers

    Well I guess it's 2 in the afternoon. You should be able to leave your kids watching tennis in the daytime without them being sworn at.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 13:46

    Well I guess it's 2 in the afternoon. You should be able to leave your kids watching tennis in the daytime without them being sworn at.

    I suppose.

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 13:49

    Petroc was going way too fast here under waved yellows, the stewards should be investigating things like this rather than run of the mil racing incidents news.bbc.co.uk/sp…_one/13748154.stm

    This is what happens when the rule application is done on "slower than previous best in that sector" rather than whether it's really slow enough for the situation.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 13:57

    This is definitely the strangest F1 post I've read in a while

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 13:57

    woops

    http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/06/13/massa-shunt-triggered-by-confused-karthikeyan/

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 13:58

    This is definitely the strangest F1 post I've read in a while

    Amazingly, Liuzzi finished 13th ahead of Trulli and the Virgins!

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 14:00

    Amazingly, Liuzzi finished 13th ahead of Trulli and the Virgins!

    Liuzzi drove a great race and was quicker than the Virgin's for much of it; Trulli, I think, had a late stop go awry.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 14:01

    @emmastonier : Anyone else see a flying pig in the clouds?!

    http://twitpic.com/5b10p0

    I do

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 14:02

    I do

    Me too.

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 14:02

    Liuzzi drove a great race and was quicker than the Virgin's for much of it; Trulli, I think, had a late stop go awry.

    Something broke in the car I think..

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 14:03

    Something broke in the car I think..

    Aaaahhh... I see - bad that on a day when Lotus had the best opportunity to nick a point, both had troubles

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 14:03

    Amazingly, Liuzzi finished 13th ahead of Trulli and the Virgins!

    That was very impressive of Tonio. I commented to my parents after the race that he'd just earned his team about $8 m...

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 14:06

    This is definitely the strangest F1 post I've read in a while

    Well it's silly to blame someone else for you spinning your car. He hadn't been shown blue flags had he?

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 14:08

    Well it's silly to blame someone else for you spinning your car. He hadn't been shown blue flags had he?

    Yeah but he was going really slow!

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 14:09

    Yeah but he was going really slow!

    Hehehe what's new :P

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 14:11

    This is definitely the strangest F1 post I've read in a while

    The bit that got me was where Felipe said Narain kept getting the corners wrong. I don't doubt him but it does make me wonder how frustrating it must be for everyone not in a Hispania...

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 14:13

    The bit that got me was where Felipe said Narain kept getting the corners wrong. I don't doubt him but it does make me wonder how frustrating it must be for everyone not in a Hispania...

    "Kept"? I know they're easily frustrated but he'd only just come up on the guy. As I said, no chance for the blue flags to come out or anything so if he made a rash move round the outside into a puddle it was stupid.

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 14:16

    "Kept"? I know they're easily frustrated but he'd only just come up on the guy. As I said, no chance for the blue flags to come out or anything so if he made a rash move round the outside into a puddle it was stupid.

    Silly moves are indeed silly. I will agree with you on that...

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 14:16

    The bit that got me was where Felipe said Narain kept getting the corners wrong. I don't doubt him but it does make me wonder how frustrating it must be for everyone not in a Hispania...

    Both of them had only travelled four corners though. I'd say it's more frustrating to be in the Hispania than out of it.

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 14:17

    Just found some very encouraging pictures of Kubica: http://sweetf1.blogspot.com/2011/06/robert-kubica-amazing-recovery-pictures.html

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 14:17

    Murray being very RUDE there. I was almost liking him there for a minute. Showy through the legs shots are not nice though :(

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 14:18

    Both of them had only travelled four corners though. I'd say it's more frustrating to be in the Hispania than out of it.

    Good point.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 14:19

    Murray being very RUDE there. I was almost liking him there for a minute. Showy through the legs shots are not nice though :(

    I don't particularly care if he's rude or not. He's just got the job done after all...

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 14:19

    I don't particularly care if he's rude or not. He's just got the job done after all...

    No need to be mean though.

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 14:20

    Just found some very encouraging pictures of Kubica: sweetf1.blogspot.…ery-pictures.html

    Those are good to see :)

  • Kathi13/06/2011 at 14:20

    Just found some very encouraging pictures of Kubica: sweetf1.blogspot.…ery-pictures.html

    I wouldn't call those encouraging...

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 14:21

    Murray being very RUDE there. I was almost liking him there for a minute. Showy through the legs shots are not nice though :(

    I very much doubt the other guy cares where the shot comes from, just that he couldn't get it back.

    Of all the rude things Murray does, entertaining the crowd is probably not one of them.

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 14:22

    I wouldn't call those encouraging...

    He's up and about with not too many assists needed. Considering where he was 4 months ago, that's pretty good going...

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 14:22

    It is a nice trophy

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 14:22

    Still, a good job by Tsonga

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 14:23

    I wouldn't call those encouraging...

    I know what you mean, his arm looks awful. But he's standing up and he's able to grip the crutches, which is encouraging I suppose.

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 14:24

    Still, a good job by Tsonga

    Yeah very good. I really thought he was going to win.

  • lou13/06/2011 at 14:34

    Yipeeeeeeee! Ahhhhh that was awesome. I now suspect I have more images than I should of Murray.

  • lou13/06/2011 at 14:39

    Lots of people are leaving! They are going to miss the brayn brothers!

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 14:42

    Lots of people are leaving! They are going to miss the brayn brothers!

    Lots of people don't like doubles!

  • lou13/06/2011 at 14:50

    Lots of people don't like doubles!

    Aw but watching them live is different to tv. But point taken :)

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 14:57

    Both of them had only travelled four corners though. I'd say it's more frustrating to be in the Hispania than out of it.

    I was chatting to a friend on Friday night whilst out.....he's a contract aero designer for various motorsports teams near Silverstone.

    Well I hadn't seen him in a few months and asked what was new....he said he was responsible for the fail that is the HRT car. He went on to say him and few other blokes had 3 weeks to design and build the car. I asked him if they designed it to a certain aero package (ie Cataluyna or Spa etc) as HRT don't update....he said no..they designed it to look like an F1 car.

    My other friend Dan works at 'Flybrid' technology and was gutting to see the Hope Team Hybrid car not finish Le Mans...it was his KERS system inside it. I've been inside Flybrid a few times and it's quite nice seeing all these shiney KERS units lined up being machined

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 15:07

    Hi again :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 15:28

    Well I hadn't seen him in a few months and asked what was new....he said he was responsible for the fail that is the HRT car. He went on to say him and few other blokes had 3 weeks to design and build the car. I asked him if they designed it to a certain aero package (ie Cataluyna or Spa etc) as HRT don't update....he said no..they designed it to look like an F1 car.

    Shame, but considering the framework of the project, it was a great job to get the car under 107% - no mean feat when you consider the teams that have either never made it or simply fallen by the wayside

  • Elissa13/06/2011 at 15:31

    Shame, but considering the framework of the project, it was a great job to get the car under 107% - no mean feat when you consider the teams that have either never made it or simply fallen by the wayside

    Yeah I did say all things considered it's doen alright to only be a few seconds off the pace. He's down at Lotus now doing some stuff on their new Evora road car

    He did say to look out for a 'Linford Bulge' along the bodywork of the HRT engine cover...apprentely they couldn't fit some cooling in...so there's a big bulge...like a certain sportmans know for....(think about it)

    I asked about KERS and he said no plans to ever install it in the car this year...designed the car without it.

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:19

    Good afternoon

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 16:22

    Good afternoon

    Hey mate.

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:22

    Is everyone tired today, it seemed to be a late night all round?

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:23

    Hey mate.

    How's tricks Gavin?

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 16:23

    hi bassano

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 16:24

    How's tricks Gavin?

    I'm good. Went for a drive and a walk to the beach earlier.

    Is everyone tired today, it seemed to be a late night all round?

    I'm knackered mate. Really draining weekend!

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:25

    I'm knackered mate. Really draining weekend!

    I bet

    Has Alia recovered?

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 16:27

    How does Bassano be today?

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 16:27

    Has Alia recovered?

    she was here earlier...

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:27

    How does Bassano be today?

    Very Monday :D

    And yerself?

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:31

    Very speculative talk in the press linking Lewis to a future RBR deal

    Silly season gets earlier every year

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 16:31

    And yerself?

    Not the best - caught a cold over the weekend, which was only made worse by flying back to the UK last night.

    I'm just shattered now.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 16:32

    Very speculative talk in the press linking Lewis to a future RBR deal

    That's been going on since April though - it just seems to louder now.

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:32

    Not the best - caught a cold over the weekend, which was only made worse by flying back to the UK last night.

    Travelling is quite draining. Was Ireland as damp as here?

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:33

    That's been going on since April though - it just seems to louder now.

    I try not to listen

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 16:34

    Travelling is quite draining. Was Ireland as damp as here?

    Yep - it was freezing as well for a couple of days. The evenings were very, very cold for some reason - odd, Ireland is normally hot, humid and wet in June.

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 16:35

    Very speculative talk in the press linking Lewis to a future RBR deal

    Silly season gets earlier every year

    It's been earlier before - remember Alonso signing for McLaren from 2007... at the end of 2005? Or how about Montoya signing for McLaren from 2005... at the end of 2003?

    Much more measured now, actually.

    Hi folks. :D

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:35

    It's been earlier before - remember Alonso signing for McLaren from 2007... at the end of 2005? Or how about Montoya signing for McLaren from 2005... at the end of 2003?

    That's not silly, that's fact

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 16:35

    Hi Journeyer

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:35

    Hi folks. :D

    And hi Journeyer

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 16:36

    That's not silly, that's fact

    Well, yes, but it had been speculated well before that - especially in Montoya's case.

    Another good example is Kimi and Ferrari - that started relatively early too.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 16:36

    If something from silly season becomes fact, does that make the fact silly or does silliness become a solid starting point for fact?

    ;)

  • Bassano13/06/2011 at 16:37

    If something from silly season becomes fact, does that make the fact silly or does silliness become a solid starting point for fact?

    If a contract is signed in the woods...

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 16:38

    If a contract is signed in the woods...

    ...only if Bernie is spying from his treehouse.

  • Journeyer13/06/2011 at 16:38

    If something from silly season becomes fact, does that make the fact silly or does silliness become a solid starting point for fact?

    If a contract is signed in the woods...

    ...and no one hears it, does it make a sound? :D

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 16:59

    Ooh, this could be #points worthy. I'll keep my eye on this: http://twitter.com/#!/NewYorkRedBulls/status/80311432582938624

  • Sidepodcast Classics13/06/2011 at 17:00

    Enjoy a little something from the sidepodcast.com back catalogue.

    - F1 Digest - Spain GP

    Originally published 27/04/2008

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 17:00

    Standings pings:

    http://sidepodcast.com/post/canada-2011-driver-standings

    http://sidepodcast.com/post/canada-2011-team-standings

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 17:01

    Richard Branson's sense of humor: http://twitter.com/#!/richardbranson/status/80316096284065793

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 17:02

    Has Alia recovered?

    Despite other people's best attempts to prevent that, yes.

    I tried to have a short nap between Le Mans and F1, but the phone was ringing incessantly - mostly nuisance calls and spam, but the odd serious message that needed noting. I definitely wasn't at my best - misinterpreted a request from Dad for whether I knew the quali results as a request to start telling the fragments of them I'd seen. However, the very next phone call demanded he go to work for two hours, so he didn't get time to try watching qualifying anyway...

    Then the F1 overran - watching it was pretty difficult due to a pounding headache. It was fun, mostly due to the rain, but I don't think I was in a condition to fully appreciate it.

    Ended up having to wait until quite late to go to bed because of the headache. Couldn't have a lie-in because I found out on Friday afternoon that I'd have to go and see my new employment assistance provider. The old one knew I was a petrol-head and would have understood I wouldn't be too great the next morning, but the new one doesn't.

    The meeting went so badly that I will have to go back in at some point to complete induction and I will have to arrange for third-party assistance in order to be able to access that induction. Despite all that, I think I'm in an OK state.

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 17:04

    If a contract is signed in the woods...

    ...only if Bernie is spying from his treehouse.

    :D

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 17:04

    Hi Alia,

    Sorry to hear the meeting went awry

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 17:06

    What on Earth..?

    @BreakingNews: World War II-era B-17 Bomber crashes in Illinois suburb; all seven people aboard survived - WMAQ http://bit.ly/mF6Hi5

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 17:10

    Sorry to hear the meeting went awry

    Thank you. I'm sure something will be sorted eventually, but it wasn't the greatest way of starting the day.

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 17:22

    Despite other people's best attempts to prevent that, yes.

    See that's why I am too afraid to attempt to watch the whole 24 hours - it's just too much when everyone else expects you to be fully switched on :(

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 17:27

    I got 18 new followers on Twitter this weekend. Pity 10 of them were spam accounts!

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 17:29

    I got 18 new followers on Twitter this weekend. Pity 10 of them were spam accounts!

    I got 7 new followers, but 5 of them are spam accounts :'(

    What's your twitter account? I think I am not following you.

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 17:29

    See that's why I am too afraid to attempt to watch the whole 24 hours - it's just too much when everyone else expects you to be fully switched on :(

    If that was all that had been expected of me, that would have been OK. Some people seem to expect me to have telepathy, super-senses and to be better at what they do for a living than they are.

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 17:30

    What's your twitter account? I think I am not following you.

    My Twitter account is @lacanta. If you're quick, you may be able to find my Le Mans tweets in the timeline. If not... ...I remembered for once to copy them to a text file, so I can send them to anyone who is interested.

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 17:32

    My Twitter account is @lacanta. If you're quick, you may be able to find my Le Mans tweets in the timeline. If not... ...I remembered for once to copy them to a text file, so I can send them to anyone who is interested.

    Ok, you've got a new follower :)

    My account is @MartiV8, but I think I'll have to change that name in 2013...

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 17:35

    Ok, you've got a new follower :)

    So do you :)

  • Sidepodcast Update13/06/2011 at 17:45
  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 17:45

    So do you :)

    Thanks! I see you are very active... 17000 tweets so far :O

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 17:49

    Thanks! I see you are very active... 17000 tweets so far :O

    16,943 of which were during the Le Mans 24 Hours

    ;)

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 17:50

    16,943 of which were during the Le Mans 24 Hours

    That means you tweeted 11 messages each minute :-O

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 17:53

    That means you tweeted 11 messages each minute :-O

    It was a busy race

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 17:54

    It was a busy race

    I tried to follow it... I think I only watched 7 or 8 hours of racing.

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 17:56

    I tried to follow it... I think I only watched 7 or 8 hours of racing.

    I managed about 18 hours in the end - fabulous race.

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 17:57

    I managed about 18 hours in the end - fabulous race.

    Lucky you! I had a family lunch at my house that day, and the week before I had been in a trip with my school, so I just couldn't stay awake :(

  • jpancoast13/06/2011 at 17:59

    Lucky you! I had a family lunch at my house that day, and the week before I had been in a trip with my school, so I just couldn't stay awake :(

    I Tivo'd it and finished watching the last 3 hours of it today. Didn't watch anything else though. Corvette's took the two GTE classes, so that made me exceedingly happy :)

  • MartiV813/06/2011 at 18:26

    Robert Kubica after his accident: http://fb.me/SBBwH7P6

  • Christine13/06/2011 at 18:36

    Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/tweets-of-the-week-four-hours-four-minutes-and-thirty-nine-seconds

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 19:18

    Ping: http://theformulaoneandmotorsportsarchive.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/catching-up-with-the-speed-of-life/

  • Leigh O'Gorman13/06/2011 at 19:33

    Hehehee

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evjYUkZa2fw&feature=player_embedded#at=75

  • elissa13/06/2011 at 20:06

    Defo think Schumi was the driver of the day...JB and LH given the car setup were always bound to do well....Schumi came from nowhere and was`so unlucky to not get the podium

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 20:22

    Evening all

    I hope Lou had a great day at Queen's. Looks like Murray did his best to entertain her

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/13748161.stm

  • lou13/06/2011 at 20:27

    Hello!!

    I hope Lou had a great day at Queen's. Looks like Murray did his best to entertain her

    omg yes it was so so awesome!! just.. the best 24hours of sporting ever! First JB wins, then Murray wins!! am sooooo sun burnt tho :( looks like i've been skiing..

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 20:29

    omg yes it was so so awesome!! just.. the best 24hours of sporting ever! First JB wins, then Murray wins!! am sooooo sun burnt tho :( looks like i've been skiing..

    So worth blowing a tenner on it?

  • lou13/06/2011 at 20:31

    So worth blowing a tenner on it?

    i would pay 10 times that for the experience/atmosphere i experienced today.. just awesome.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 20:33

    i would pay 10 times that for the experience/atmosphere i experienced today.. just awesome.

    Are you planning a visit to Wimbledon?

  • lou13/06/2011 at 20:36

    Are you planning a visit to Wimbledon?

    depends on how cheap tickets are, but i'm thinking i might yeah. I've got the tennis bug more than ever before. Today i experienced something amazing! Tickets worth so much money for £10 and a centre court packed full of people. When they were playing you could cut the atmosphere with a knife, everyone was hanging on to every shot. Totally worth the awful headache and sunburn/ Panda eyes i now have. Have too many pics tho.. Feel like i shouldn't have taken that many of one man.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 20:38

    depends on how cheap tickets are

    I am sure Amy knows every ticket option available

  • lou13/06/2011 at 20:42

    I am sure Amy knows every ticket option available

    hehe she said she'd point it out when it comes a bit closer. I've obviously missed the ballot for Wimbledon, but may be able to get grounds tickets if i queue up quick enough. My tennis friend wont be able to make it cause she's on holiday so i'll probably be going on my own, not that i mind :)

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 20:46

    hehe she said she'd point it out when it comes a bit closer. I've obviously missed the ballot for Wimbledon, but may be able to get grounds tickets if i queue up quick enough. My tennis friend wont be able to make it cause she's on holiday so i'll probably be going on my own, not that i mind :)

    Maybe it will rain enough for there to be play on the middle Sunday. That normally has cheap tickets

  • lou13/06/2011 at 20:53

    Maybe it will rain enough for there to be play on the middle Sunday. That normally has cheap tickets

    that would be amazing! however they have the roof now tho? so there is less of a chance of that happening. but yes lots of rain for early stages of tournaments please :P

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 20:55

    that would be amazing! however they have the roof now tho? so there is less of a chance of that happening. but yes lots of rain for early stages of tournaments please :P

    They only have a roof on one court. If they have a few days of rain they will be able to play on centre court but not on the other however many courts there are.

  • lou13/06/2011 at 20:56

    They only have a roof on one court. If they have a few days of rain they will be able to play on centre court but not on the other however many courts there are.

    ahhh thinking optimistically i see :) however £10 to see a Murray/Tsonga final is something that will be hard to beat! :)

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 20:58

    ahhh thinking optimistically i see :) however £10 to see a Murray/Tsonga final is something that will be hard to beat! :)

    I don't think you will get a Wimbledon final for anything like that.

    Getting to see the final for a tenner was a great deal. Seeing Murray win was even better and for him to be in the kind of mood to play those shots through his legs must have been even better

  • lou13/06/2011 at 20:59

    Getting to see the final for a tenner was a great deal. Seeing Murray win was even better and for him to be in the kind of mood to play those shots through his legs must have been even better

    hehehe and i even got a photo of that shot!! :D hehe

    aahh such a good day :)

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 20:59

    hehehe and i even got a photo of that shot!! :D hehe

    Can't wait to see the photo.

  • lou13/06/2011 at 21:00

    Can't wait to see the photo.

    i have x2 memory cards worth of shots to get through but may upload that tonight, when i took it i actually screamed.. good job the crowd were shouting at the time. :)

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:01

    i have x2 memory cards worth of shots to get through but may upload that tonight, when i took it i actually screamed.. good job the crowd were shouting at the time. :)

    :D

  • lou13/06/2011 at 21:22

    i have x2 memory cards worth of shots to get through but may upload that tonight, when i took it i actually screamed.. good job the crowd were shouting at the time. :)

    :D

    straight out of the camera:

    http://tinyurl.com/6xcuv87

    will need a bit of editing and tightening up levels, and maybe a crop. but here is the shot :)

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:27

    straight out of the camera:

    You could sell that!

  • lou13/06/2011 at 21:28

    You could sell that!

    hehe i think probably alot of the photogs there got that shot, but thank you :) maybe one day :).. well hopefully!

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:29

    straight out of the camera:

    I didn't realise his left foot was off the ground at the time. You did well to catch that

  • lou13/06/2011 at 21:30

    I didn't realise his left foot was off the ground at the time. You did well to catch that

    :) hence the scream of excitement :) although i have very few pics of tsonga and murray with both feet on the ground, they like jumping :)

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 21:40

    straight out of the camera:

    He said in his interview that it was an accident after he got his feet tangled rather than showing off so I forgive him I think.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:41

    He said in his interview that it was an accident after he got his feet tangled rather than showing off so I forgive him I think.

    Both times?

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 21:42

    Both times?

    There were 2 times?? I only saw 1 and was horrified he'd be so arrogant when the other guy had been doing so well. Maybe I take back my forgiveness :P

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:44

    There were 2 times?? I only saw 1 and was horrified he'd be so arrogant when the other guy had been doing so well. Maybe I take back my forgiveness :P

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/13748161.stm

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 21:46

    news.bbc.co.uk/sp…nnis/13748161.stm

    Ah I see. I only saw the 2nd one. I was hoping it went out tbh. Would serve him right!!

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:47

    Ah I see. I only saw the 2nd one. I was hoping it went out tbh. Would serve him right!!

    You can't complain about him doing that

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 21:48

    You can't complain about him doing that

    Why would you do it though? To humiliate the poor man?

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:48

    You can't complain about him doing that

    I don't see a problem. The first he got wrong footed and the second one was to sell him a dummy. I thought that was bloody clever myself.

  • Pat W13/06/2011 at 21:48

    I just caught this tweet from Toby Moody and ran to the other room, just saw it in time. Be sure to catch the next one :)

    Space Station sightings tonight from the UK. 10.43pm & 12.18am; the latter being the better. Look SSW for the first one & W for second.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:48

    You can't complain about him doing that

    It's just a bit of fun

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:49

    Why would you do it though? To humiliate the poor man?

    He's supposed to beat him and part of that is psychological.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:49

    I just caught this tweet from Toby Moody and ran to the other room, just saw it in time. Be sure to catch the next one :)

    I love all these motor racing people becoming interested in space

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 21:50

    It's just a bit of fun

    Fair enough. I felt sorry for the other guy. I didn't like to feel people were making fun of him. He was top class and very nearly won the tournament.

  • Pat W13/06/2011 at 21:50

    ooh

    @stirlingmosscom

    SM on around 0830 with @achrisevans & a jet lagged #F1 presenter

  • lou13/06/2011 at 21:51

    There were 2 times?? I only saw 1 and was horrified he'd be so arrogant when the other guy had been doing so well. Maybe I take back my forgiveness :P

    he does it in practice. a few players do.. the first shot from the backline won the point, the second he did at the net Tsonga returned and he lost the post. i think it was a genuine 'oh well i might as well' in the first instance. Rather than showing off, he wasn't in a position to show off at being better than Tsonga at that point really..

  • lou13/06/2011 at 21:52

    news.bbc.co.uk/sp…nnis/13748161.stm

    ohh! i was on TV! and woah in comparison to the angle i saw it at i don't like seeing tennis from that angle.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:52

    Pat

    http://twitter.com/twisst21 will @reply you every day about sighting opportunities. I am sure Lukeh found it

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:53

    ohh! i was on TV! and woah in comparison to the angle i saw it at i don't like seeing tennis from that angle.

    I can't see you, my video isn't great...

  • lou13/06/2011 at 21:53

    Why would you do it though? To humiliate the poor man?

    nooo! i believe if it's something he practices as a bit of fun in training and your feet just get in the way during a game you just go for it. he was running everywhere and they were both being stupid at one point just throwing themselves around to get the ball. great to watch!

  • Lukeh13/06/2011 at 21:53

    Evening guys.

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:54

    Alison, you should read Andre Agassi's book if you haven't already. Tennis is such a mental sport....

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:54

    Evening guys.

    Hey man.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:54

    ohh! i was on TV! and woah in comparison to the angle i saw it at i don't like seeing tennis from that angle.

    I missed you. What time are you on it?

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:55

    What the heck has happened to Tony? http://twitter.com/#!/tonyfernandes

  • Lukeh13/06/2011 at 21:55

    What the heck has happened to Tony? http://twitter.com/#!/tonyfernandes

    He's evolving, I believe that documentary called Pokemon once showed such events

  • lou13/06/2011 at 21:55

    Fair enough. I felt sorry for the other guy. I didn't like to feel people were making fun of him. He was top class and very nearly won the tournament.

    no one in the crowd was making fun on tsonga. i promise. we all loved him. he's an amazing sport, a wonderful player and a great entertainer. He was making comments to the crowd and having a laugh at points. In the last set he fell over and just lay on the ground. he looked at our grandstand and made a silly :( face. he didn't feel picked on, we all loved him, there were plenty of people supporting him.. but looads supporting murray.

  • RG13/06/2011 at 21:56

    What the heck has happened to Tony? http://twitter.com/#!/tonyfernandes

    He just saw that a Hispania were more reliable than both his cars.

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:56

    He's evolving, I believe that documentary called Pokemon once showed such events

    or it's this: http://www.gobarbra.com/hit/new-6b7d7c183b297d5e58a0b3f275d3efd2

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 21:57

    What the heck has happened to Tony? http://twitter.com/#!/tonyfernandes

    Put his phone in his pocket without locking the keys?

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 21:59

    Alison, you should read Andre Agassi's book if you haven't already. Tennis is such a mental sport....

    £5.49!! Boooo!! :D

  • Pat W13/06/2011 at 21:59

    Pat

    http://twitter.com/twisst21 will @reply you every day about sighting opportunities. I am sure Lukeh found it

    Thanks. Why does it say not to follow?

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 21:59

    £5.49!! Boooo!! :D

    send me your address and you can have my copy then.

  • lou13/06/2011 at 22:00

    I missed you. What time are you on it?

    00:21 at the very very top, hidden by the second 'B' of BBC... but yes that's where we were sitting. not sure if there is a clearer shot at any point, but we were pretty close!

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 22:00

    Thanks. Why does it say not to follow?

    I think you will get every sighting opportunity everywhere on the planet

  • Lukeh13/06/2011 at 22:00

    Thanks. Why does it say not to follow?

    You follow another account, that just updates you. I guess it's because you'll never get any updates as it's busy @ing everybody

  • Alison13/06/2011 at 22:01

    send me your address and you can have my copy then.

    I'm a new Kindle convert. I swear this place is infectious. I feel a bit like "what is this book thing you speak of" at the moment :D I'm besotted.

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 22:03

    00:21 at the very very top, hidden by the second 'B' of BBC... but yes that's where we were sitting. not sure if there is a clearer shot at any point, but we were pretty close!

    THere is bound to be a better shot somewhere in the whole match

  • lou13/06/2011 at 22:03

    THere is bound to be a better shot somewhere in the whole match

    probably! not sure i am up for watching the whole match just to see myself on the tv taking photos.. i can do that in the mirror! ;)

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 22:05

    probably! not sure i am up for watching the whole match just to see myself on the tv taking photos.. i can do that in the mirror! ;)

    :D

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 22:05

    I saved Tony's tweets for posterity here: http://www.twitpic.com/5b6v9c

  • Lukeh13/06/2011 at 22:08

    Race review ping:

    http://gridwalktalk.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/canadian-grand-prix-2011-not-quite-your-normal-shower/

    And with that I need to head off, bit of a short hello really... #sorryeveryone

    Night guys

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 22:09

    Night Lukeh

  • Rubbergoat13/06/2011 at 22:09

    And with that I need to head off, bit of a short hello really... #sorryeveryone

    see ya man

  • Pat W13/06/2011 at 22:13

    I missed you. What time are you on it?

    00:21 at the very very top, hidden by the second 'B' of BBC... but yes that's where we were sitting. not sure if there is a clearer shot at any point, but we were pretty close!

    Cool! I can't see you though.. mind you there are a few people wearing sunglasses!

  • lou13/06/2011 at 22:13

    Night guys

    nighht!

  • Pat W13/06/2011 at 22:13

    Race review ping:

    was gonna do a couple as well as race results but just not in the right mood.. still tired i think

  • Pat W13/06/2011 at 22:14

    Team Lotus will use the Williams wind tunnel

    http://bit.ly/lYNEov

  • lou13/06/2011 at 22:14

    Cool! I can't see you though.. mind you there are a few people wearing sunglasses!

    literally right at the top on the left. lol it's probably good you can't see me tho..

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 22:18

    Team Lotus will use the Williams wind tunnel

    http://bit.ly/lYNEov

    Seems odd. They have all the information and background on the Aerolab tunnel and they are building their own. So why add a third tunnel into the mix. Surely that wil cause as much confusion as anything?

  • Pat W13/06/2011 at 22:20

    Seems odd. They have all the information and background on the Aerolab tunnel and they are building their own. So why add a third tunnel into the mix. Surely that wil cause as much confusion as anything?

    Seems the Aerolab tunnel doesn't have capacity so they need something to tide them over until their own works.

    I'm not sure if I'm an F1 team I would trust another F1 team though!

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 22:46

    I'm not sure if I'm an F1 team I would trust another F1 team though!

    I am sure there are few teams that would trust other teams.

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 23:00

    Force India have finished a Facebook competition about doing Silverstone designs. They say they're doing a photo gallery of everyone's entry except the ones with faces... ...or pandas.

    Did anyone at Sidepodcast Towers secretly do an entry?

  • Steven Roy13/06/2011 at 23:04

    Force India have finished a Facebook competition about doing Silverstone designs. They say they're doing a photo gallery of everyone's entry except the ones with faces... ...or pandas.

    :D

    How can they object to pandas

  • Alianora La Canta13/06/2011 at 23:09

    How can they object to pandas

    The rules said to make the Silverstone design out of "everyday objects". Pandas are not objects, let alone everyday ones...