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Boy, has this been a long wait.

Apple skipped the expected June announcement for the latest iPhone and then skipped the September event expected for the refresh of the iPod line.

Today, the Apple consumers await the announcement of shiny products with much anticipation.

Will it be the iPhone 5, 4, or something else? Will it be 4G enabled? What about storage, will we ever get a 64GB iPhone where we don't have to be picky about decide ding what media to load to it?

There have been posts on numerology that have dissected the press invitation. Reader submitted designs, on what the new handset might look like. Some crazy cats even manufactured a full scale aluminium and glass handset which is quite impressive.

Also expected today, news on iOS 5, iCloud, new iPods and maybe the retirement of some Classic iPods - possibly foretold by the removal of "click wheel" games from iTunes. There's a rumour roundup but post any interesting links you find and we'll chat about what's to come, what we hear and what we would like to see.

The Keynote should begging at 10:00 (PST), 13:00 (EST) or 18:00 (GMT+1) to some of us.

Apple aren't live streaming this event but there are many live blogs and bound to be a naughty, illicit stream or two floating around. So, grab your refreshments and get those thumbs ready… let's talk iPhone!

351 responses

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:45

    Woo hoo! So ready to buy NOW! :D

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 16:45

    Mr C... May I take this opportunity to remind you that you will be disapointed

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 16:46

    Apple Japan accidentally said iPhone 4S on October 14th

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:46

    Mr C... May I take this opportunity to remind you that you will be disapointed

    He he, remember the megapixel myth ;)

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:46

    cheers for the post mr. b.

    just as a heads-up, we also have a MLB live thread scheduled for 18:45, so if you do a late refresh to the dashboard, you might get confused!

    http://sidepodcast.com/dashboard

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:47

    Apple Japan accidentally said iPhone 4S on October 14th

    I heard that, strong rumours about a new 5 though with the bigger screen. Thought that idea had gone away

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:47

    cheers for the post mr. b.

    No worries

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:47

    Mr C... May I take this opportunity to remind you that you will be disapointed

    always.

    am hoping on fixed dates for iOS 5 and iCloud.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:48

    also for the record, i am not buying anything at all today.

    :)

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 16:48

    I heard that, strong rumours about a new 5 though with the bigger screen. Thought that idea had gone away

    I am really gunning for that being the iPod Touch

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 16:48

    also for the record, i am not buying anything at all today.

    You say that now

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:48

    I forgot to mention the death of the Zune, which was off again, on again and now confirmed

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/04/microsoft_changes_its_story_concedes_death_of_zune_hardware.html

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 16:48

    cheers for the post mr. b.

    No worries

    Cheers indeed

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:49

    Alex, are any of your contracts ready to upgrade. I've never done that before. How does it work if buying at the Apple Store?

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:49

    You say that now

    i truly don't have any money. but also, i don't foresee much being targeted at me. unless they apologise for the final cut cock up and release the real version.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:50

    I forgot to mention the death of the Zune, which was off again, on again and now confirmed

    never made it to this country.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:52

    4 live news feeds into one stream for easy viewing of the iPhone5 announcement

    http://lbobi.com/2011/10/live-newsfeed-the-lets-talk-iphone-apple-event.html

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:52

    4 live news feeds into one stream for easy viewing of the iPhone5 announcement

    ace!

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:53

    4 live news feeds into one stream for easy viewing of the iPhone5 announcement

    lbobi.com/2011/10…-apple-event.html

    Other links here

    http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/04/live-coverage-of-apples-lets-talk-iphone-event/

  • 4chords04/10/2011 at 16:53

    Hello folks, what a grand idea for following this Iphone announcement.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:53

    4 live news feeds into one stream for easy viewing of the iPhone5 announcement

    although edgadget will likely have bigger pictures.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:53

    Hello folks, what a grand idea for following this Iphone announcement.

    #blamebassano

    hey ya ;)

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 16:53

    although edgadget will likely have bigger pictures.

    engadget always seems the best to me

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 16:54

    I'm just here to observe the animals in the zoo.

  • Andy Taylor04/10/2011 at 16:54

    Contract upgrades work just the same as going I to the carriers own shop

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 16:55

    Alex, are any of your contracts ready to upgrade. I've never done that before. How does it work if buying at the Apple Store?

    All are I think... I haven't done anything at the apple store

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 16:55

    engadget always seems the best to me

    Love that they are in there with Android phones!

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:55

    last chance for predictions then?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:56

    Contract upgrades work just the same as going I to the carriers own shop

    But don't tariffs change when you upgrade?

    I have unlimited data and would be keen to keep it

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:56

    last chance for predictions then?

    64gb iPhone 4S in Black for me with Voice Activation and some fancy turn by turn GPS magic

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 16:57

    last chance for predictions then?

    Apple will make lots of money.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:57

    Love that they are in there with Android phones!

    #rebels

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 16:57

    I'm just here to observe the animals in the zoo.

    and denial is a river... somewhere.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:58

    engadget always seems the best to me

    Love that they are in there with Android phones!

    The reality distortion field will render them useless :)

  • 4chords04/10/2011 at 16:59

    last chance for predictions then?

    We will all get in a big frenzy over the new stuff, then think about for a few days, find the faults, but decide we want 'em anyway.

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 16:59

    and denial is a river... somewhere.

    hehehe...

    I'll "get one", so to speak, but only because the companies gonna pay for it as I need it for development.

    Wife and I will be getting new Android phones at the beginning of the year.

  • Kai04/10/2011 at 16:59

    Hi gang. Curious but not buying anything. :)

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 16:59

    Apple will make lots of money.

    Then bail Greece out and turn it into a homunculus Apple Store

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 16:59

    last chance for predictions then?

    i's will be had all round

    *waves to everyone*

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 16:59

    So Leo is saying that the moscone center is being used by oracle, so the fact that it's in a small place might not be because it's boring.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:00

    Hi to the newcomers

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:00

    Hi gang. Curious but not buying anything. :)

    I'll probably buy everything, but I never usually buy anything on the day

  • Andy Taylor04/10/2011 at 17:00

    True. If you want unlimited data on O2 then buy handset only

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:00

    *waves to everyone*

    *nods in respect*

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:00

    So Leo is saying that the moscone center is being used by oracle, so the fact that it's in a small place might not be because it's boring.

    Rumour is that Apple couldn't pick a date [due iOS or iCloud polishing ]so stayed at home instead

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:01

    Reckon we may see a new Touch at all? I want the older models to become cheaper as I am poor...

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:01

    True. If you want unlimited data on O2 then buy handset only

    :(

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:01

    Reckon we may see a new Touch at all? I want the older models to become cheaper as I am poor...

    Yup, minor upgrades

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:01

    Reckon we may see a new Touch at all? I want the older models to become cheaper as I am poor...

    I'm hoping it is a new touch with 3G

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 17:02

    Reckon we may see a new Touch at all? I want the older models to become cheaper as I am poor...

    Yup, minor upgrades

    I would expect a 64GB touch.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:02

    MacRumors liveblog down, TWIT down for me

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:02

    I'm hoping it is a new touch with 3G

    mifi is better surely. unless you only own one device.

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:02

    MacRumors liveblog down, TWIT down for me

    I have TWIT

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:02

    I'm hoping it is a new touch with 3G

    That would blow my mind. I would save up for that.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:03

    mifi is better surely. unless you only own one device.

    What if it allows tethering?

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:03

    Maybe they'll shock everyone and announce the iPhone 5 has dial up support

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:03

    Black shirt in honour of the Turtle Neck of Steve?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:04

    I have TWIT

    I've got it now, http://live.twit.tv/#audio has video!!

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:05

    What if it allows tethering?

    will have compare, but mifi is payg, 7.2g and hsdpa+

    have to be a heck of a touch, no?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:05

    Kat, Nina and I are all watching live

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:05

    I'm really tempted buy Apple TV now with AirPlay going LARGE

    #BlameAlex

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:05

    Kat, Nina and I are all watching live

    Nina's first apple conference? Aww :)

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:05

    I'm really tempted buy Apple TV now with AirPlay going LARGE

    highly recommended. we get a lot sof use out of ours.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:05

    Kat, Nina and I are all watching live

    iPod Nano for Nina? ;)

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:06

    I'm really tempted buy Apple TV now with AirPlay going LARGE

    really good

  • Daniel04/10/2011 at 17:06

    I reckon it'll have the ability to allow you to talk to someone who is very far away or even just next door. Or any distance in between. Oh and it'll feature faster than light processing copyrighted by CERN labs.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:06

    I reckon it'll have the ability to allow you to talk to someone who is very far away or even just next door. Or any distance in between. Oh and it'll feature faster than light processing copyrighted by CERN labs.

    heeh!

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:07

    Andy T: REally bad reception, Skype?

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:07

    I reckon it'll have the ability to allow you to talk to someone who is very far away or even just next door. Or any distance in between. Oh and it'll feature faster than light processing copyrighted by CERN labs.

    I hope the rumour about it holding a flux capacitor is true

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:07

    Andy T: REally bad reception, Skype?

    who?

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:07

    Gotta be a 4S. But I'm buying either way, seeing as I have a 3GS right now.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:08

    Any live video yet?

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:11

    Any live video yet?

    From what I understand, there won't be any. Not of the talk itself, anyway.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:11

    From what I understand, there won't be any. Not of the talk itself, anyway.

    Someone will stream before getting caught

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:12

    Love Leo's Droopy voice :)

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:12

    next up ipod

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:13

    Tim Cook: Apple sold more Macs on open ing day in Hong Kong than sold at any other store opening in the world.

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:13

    next up ipod

    Woo woo!

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:13

    I love the Classic, so tempted to buy a 160gb tonight

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:15

    Mmmm, colourful itunes

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:17

    Leo's in a ... chair!

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:17

    engadget - Http/1.1 Service Unavailable

    #oops

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:18

    engadget - Http/1.1 Service Unavailable

    just had that too

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:18

    engadget - Http/1.1 Service Unavailable

    Similar but not as good http://live.gdgt.com/live-apple-iphone-5-event-coverage/

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:18

    #oops

    same here but a refresh sorted it

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:18

    same here but a refresh sorted it

    oh no, maybe not!

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:19

    Lily Savage is running Apple?

    http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/10/iphone5apple2011liveblogkeynote1212.jpg

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:19

    Lily Savage is running Apple?

    :D

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:19

    http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/04/apple-iphone-live-blog-starts-now/

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:21

    Never seen Engadget struggle before

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:21

    thisismynext.com/…-blog-starts-now/

    That's not an aeroplance, it's an Airbus

    If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:22

    Never seen Engadget struggle before

    they are back now

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:22

    Never seen Engadget struggle before

    And by golly, it's struggling.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:22

    twit is also down.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:23

    twit is also down.

    This works for me but the chatroom is saying it's down

    http://live.twit.tv/#audio

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:23

    twit is also down.

    not for me

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:24

    this is my next seems to be working really weel

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:24

    this is my next seems to be working really weel

    but now I have engadget back we're good

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:25

    CNet down too

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:26

    what the...

    Real, honest to gosh cards. You pick the pic, Apple prints it out.

    why?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:26

    this is my next is ahead

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:26

    This bit is to fool the Office Lottery on how many minutes the iPhone is announced

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:26

    why?

    Printed from Apple in China, designed in Cupertino

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:27

    what the...

    Real, honest to gosh cards. You pick the pic, Apple prints it out.

    why?

    because they can? rather odd, though, i gotta admit.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:27

    Notifications are badly in need of this

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:28

    When they say cards, they mean solitaire? Right? Right guys?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:29

    When they say cards, they mean solitaire? Right? Right guys?

    Yeah, I want the App of Hearts :D

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:29

    Yeah, I want the App of Hearts :D

    :)

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:30

    Yeah, I want the App of Hearts :D

    Or the iOS 5 of Clubs

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:35

    minus points to apple for rehashing the same keynote slides from wwdc. only without steve.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:35

    minus points to apple for rehashing the same keynote slides from wwdc. only without steve.

    Not to mention not live streaming it from the mother of all server farms

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:35

    minus points to apple for rehashing the same keynote slides from wwdc. only without steve.

    I told you it would be low key

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:36

    iOS 5 Oct 12th

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:36

    Not to mention not live streaming it from the mother of all server farms

    heh. honestly, that's a terrible place to stream from. need global diversity.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:36

    iOS 5 Oct 12th

    balls.

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:36

    minus points to apple for rehashing the same keynote slides from wwdc. only without steve.

    I told you it would be low key

    it is a bit worrying that their first post-jobs talk is so... flat. now would've been the best time to come out and show that apple can still be apple even in a post-jobs era.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:37

    Did they say GM today?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:38

    it is a bit worrying that their first post-jobs talk is so... flat. now would've been the best time to come out and show that apple can still be apple even in a post-jobs era.

    It's not worrying to me... this is what happens every time... the first half is almost always boring

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:38

    it is a bit worrying that their first post-jobs talk is so... flat. now would've been the best time to come out and show that apple can still be apple even in a post-jobs era.

    It's not worrying to me... this is what happens every time... the first half is almost always boring

    will see how they kick it up a notch then.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:38

    It's not worrying to me... this is what happens every time... the first half is almost always boring

    first time they've reused slides though?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:39

    first time they've reused slides though?

    It's a recap of the iOS announcement from WWDC

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:39

    It's not worrying to me... this is what happens every time... the first half is almost always boring

    and don't they know we have a baseball game to watch?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:39

    first time they've reused slides though?

    I don't think so... I think they've done it before whenever they've dealt with pre announced iOS features

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:41

    They announced so much iOS stuff to developers earlier in the year... but now they are saying to the press... when you talk about the new phone and you say, "it's got nothing new" we'd like to remind you that we have lots of new stuff...

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:42

    Find My Friends?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:42

    lost almost every stream now

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:42

    They announced so much iOS stuff to developers earlier in the year... but now they are saying to the press... when you talk about the new phone and you say, "it's got nothing new" we'd like to remind you that we have lots of new stuff...

    ...even if it's old news.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:42

    lost almost every stream now

    Still going

    http://live.thisismynext.com/Event/Apple_iPhone_5_event_live_blog

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:42

    Still going

    And http://live.gdgt.com/live-apple-iphone-5-event-coverage/

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:43

    lost almost every stream now

    http://live.gdgt.com/live-apple-iphone-5-event-coverage/

    any luck?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:43

    all back now... except twit

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:44

    5GB of free iCloud storage is pretty good

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:44

    5GB of free iCloud storage is pretty good

    and that doesn't include music

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:44

    and that doesn't include music

    Good point

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:46

    12th for icloud too

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:46

    october 12 for icloud.

    balls.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:46

    Who is the guy on TWiT that sounds like Schwarzenegger?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:46

    october 12 for icloud.

    balls.

    And 10.7.2 probably

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 17:46

    Who is the guy on TWiT that sounds like Schwarzenegger?

    I think he's a developer guy

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:47

    And 10.7.2 probably

    more balls. and the apple tv update i guess.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:47

    Streaming music and data limits do not go together

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:48

    more balls. and the apple tv update i guess.

    balls because you'd like it already?

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:48

    Ipod tiiiiime

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:48

    No mention of Classic, again

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:48

    Streaming music and data limits do not go together

    Unless you're on Sprint, of course, in which case you have unlimited data.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:48

    balls because you'd like it already?

    Yesterday ;)

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:49

    Unless you're on Sprint, of course, in which case you have unlimited data.

    No unlimited is really unlimited. Try 24/7 streaming and wait for the email

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:49

    The ipod nano - now even nanoer! With more nano!

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 17:49

    Streaming music and data limits do not go together

    No they do not.

    Does the icloud streaming cache the music on the device? That feature is a savior for me in the amazon and google music apps if my connectivity is junk.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:49

    if you're using realtime, this might get confusing. recommend:

    http://sidepodcast.com/dashboard

    to follow only the apple conversation.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:49

    The ipod nano - now even nanoer! With more nano!

    the iPod StefaNano

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:50

    Nice watch

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:50

    balls because you'd like it already?

    christine having all sorts of lion issues. desperate for some kind of service pack.

    i need ios 5 for work related stuff and i needed the improvements in july.

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:50

    Unless you're on Sprint, of course, in which case you have unlimited data.

    No unlimited is really unlimited. Try 24/7 streaming and wait for the email

    How many people realistically do that, though? Maybe 12/7, but not quite 24/7.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:50

    Mickey Mouse watch face!

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:51

    christine having all sorts of lion issues. desperate for some kind of service pack.

    lou has mentioned how much she wants some kind of update for lion too. Have seen others mention it on twitter as well

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:51

    How many people realistically do that, though? Maybe 12/7, but not quite 24/7.

    Ok, 12/7. How long are they gonna allow that if it becomes popular?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:51

    lou has mentioned how much she wants some kind of update for lion too. Have seen others mention it on twitter as well

    WiFi is kinda borked for a lot of people

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:51

    christine having all sorts of lion issues. desperate for some kind of service pack.

    lou has mentioned how much she wants some kind of update for lion too. Have seen others mention it on twitter as well

    I amazingly haven't had any lion issues yet, and usually I've got problems that others havent

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:52

    How many people realistically do that, though? Maybe 12/7, but not quite 24/7.

    Ok, 12/7. How long are they gonna allow that if it becomes popular?

    As long as their networks can handle it. And given they're just #3 in the US, they should have capacity to spare. (Read: not AT&T)

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:52

    ooooooooh iPod touch!

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:52

    As long as their networks can handle it. And given they're just #3 in the US, they should have capacity to spare. (Read: not AT&T)

    Rumours of a massive Sprint deal for iPhone

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 17:53

    As long as their networks can handle it. And given they're just #3 in the US, they should have capacity to spare. (Read: not AT&T)

    My wife asked if maybe we should consider going back to AT&T.

    I love her very much. But that woman is CRAZY! for even considering it.

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:53

    As long as their networks can handle it. And given they're just #3 in the US, they should have capacity to spare. (Read: not AT&T)

    Rumours of a massive Sprint deal for iPhone

    Indeed. How massive, though, that is the question.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:53

    No 128GB iPod Touch :(

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 17:53

    I really don't get white Apple devices. Black is classic

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:53

    ...so is it just a new colour ipod touch?

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:53

    I amazingly haven't had any lion issues yet, and usually I've got problems that others havent

    it's vista-eque here :(

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:53

    Indeed. How massive, though, that is the question.

    8, 32, 64

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:54

    ...so is it just a new colour ipod touch?

    Better processor and graphics I imagine. Maybe not

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:54

    Here it comes

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 17:55

    No 128GB iPod Touch :(

    Lot of people were hoping for a new iPod Classic. So much for that, then.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:55

    iPhone 4S

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:55

    design same, inside all new...

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:55

    Lot of people were hoping for a new iPod Classic. So much for that, then.

    It's dying

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:55

    Dual Core A5 chip from the iPad

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:56

    Ooooh, epic games are there.

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:56

    Ooooh, epic games are there.

    Who ironically have a strong reputation for being microsoft's game buddies...

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 17:56

    it's vista-eque here :(

    It's horrible. I want my leopard back.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:57

    Ooooh, epic games are there.

    Infinity Blade is nice

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 17:57

    It's horrible. I want my leopard back.

    Really... I haven't seen a blog post about it...

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 17:57

    Infinity Blade is nice

    Always wanted to give it a go but alas... *looks at 2G iPod*

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:57

    It's horrible. I want my leopard back.

    if the icloud doesn't sort it, we'll roll you back.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:58

    Always wanted to give it a go but alas... *looks at 2G iPod*

    You can buy my iPad in March ;)

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 17:58

    Must be 64GB. Pleeeeeease

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 17:59

    Really... I haven't seen a blog post about it...

    No. I could do that, I suppose.

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:01

    No. I could do that, I suppose.

    I remember Leopard or Snow Leopard caused one... I assumed all was well because it's gone so well for me...

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:01

    Antenna switching

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:02

    Double HSDPA speeds [than iPhone 4]

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 18:02

    I remember Leopard or Snow Leopard caused one... I assumed all was well because it's gone so well for me...

    I wrote a post with my first thoughts on Lion, but I haven't gone back and ranted about it. I will do that :)

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:04

    I wrote a post with my first thoughts on Lion, but I haven't gone back and ranted about it. I will do that :)

    I remember that one too... despite being difficult for me to participate on the internet I've made sure I've kept up with your blog

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 18:05

    I remember that one too... despite being difficult for me to participate on the internet I've made sure I've kept up with your blog

    Awww. Gold star for you!

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:05

    8MP camera confirmed

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:07

    Any guesses as to who will have the faster network next year? I'm guessing Vodafone over O2

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:09

    Squirrell! :D

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:10

    1080p video

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:10

    1080p video

    recording?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:11

    "real-time temporal noise reduction"

    For filming space/time continuum anomalies?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:11

    1080p video

    recording?

    Yup

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:11

    recording?

    yes

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:11

    recording?

    080p, real-time video image stabilization (yes!), real-time temporal noise reduction

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:12

    Yup

    oh wow.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:13

    Hopefully this will calm down the queues this year [flexes debit card]

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:13

    1080p video

    recording?

    Yup

    First truly interesting new feature I've seen so far today.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:13

    given up on streams. these comments are my only apple info as i fix code and watch baseball. appreciate the updates.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:13

    First truly interesting new feature I've seen so far today.

    very interesting. that's massive.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:13

    given up on streams. these comments are my only apple info as i fix code and watch baseball. appreciate the updates.

    Wise man

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:13

    given up on streams. these comments are my only apple info as i fix code and watch baseball. appreciate the updates.

    Airplay mirroring over wifi

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:14

    Airplay mirroring over wifi

    Woo hoo

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:14

    First truly interesting new feature I've seen so far today.

    very interesting. that's massive.

    and then... there was voice.

    here we go.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:14

    Voice Assistant

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:14

    Voice Assistant

    Here comes the Siri and Nuance technology

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:15

    "How long is the queue at my local Apple Store?"

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:16

    Airplay mirroring over wifi

    was that an announced ios 5 feature? or is this iphone only?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:17

    was that an announced ios 5 feature? or is this iphone only?

    iPhone 4S

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:17

    iPhone 4S

    so ipad won't mirror over wifi?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:17

    so ipad won't mirror over wifi?

    Don't know, be sill if we had to wait for iPad 3 for that

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:17

    was that an announced ios 5 feature? or is this iphone only?

    it was announced before

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:19

    they should go ask how Apple stock is doing right now... it's not doing so good.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:19

    they should go ask how Apple stock is doing right now... it's not doing so good.

    Have they dropped to the 2nd biggest company in the world yet?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:20

    Can I just say my prediction about restaurants was bang on...

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 18:20

    I'm scared it's all going to go about HAL9000 on us

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:20

    they should go ask how Apple stock is doing right now... it's not doing so good.

    Have they dropped to the 2nd biggest company in the world yet?

    weren't they always the second biggest? never got quite to be the biggest for all that long.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:20

    I'm scared it's all going to go about HAL9000 on us

    "What are you doing Lukeh, would you like some James Morrison instead?"

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:21

    weren't they always the second biggest? never got quite to be the biggest for all that long.

    They overtook Exxon and stayed there I thought

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:21

    I'm scared it's all going to go about HAL9000 on us

    fortunately, i don't think it can communicate outside of English just yet. ;)

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:21

    can I help you with closing the pod bay doors?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:21

    weren't they always the second biggest? never got quite to be the biggest for all that long.

    I thought it was the biggest?

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 18:22

    "What are you doing Lukeh, would you like some James Morrison instead?"

    *drops to knees* WHY IPHONE WHY

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 18:23

    fortunately, i don't think it can communicate outside of English just yet. ;)

    Then it's going to turn into GlaDOS!

    the iCake was a lie!

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:23

    weren't they always the second biggest? never got quite to be the biggest for all that long.

    I thought it was the biggest?

    for a while. but that quickly ended when Steve Jobs said he was leaving.

    http://www.thestreet.com/story/11230244/1/apple-and-exxon-vie-for-the-value-crown.html

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 18:25

    This asking the phone & listening to the answer on a headset is going to make pub quizzes really easy

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 18:25

    iphone 4S will scare all the people pretending to talk to someone on the phone to avoid someone

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:26

    This asking the phone & listening to the answer on a headset is going to make pub quizzes really easy

    The Pub Quiz world championship will have to move to The Coal Hole

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:27

    iPhone when and how big?

  • Alex Andronov04/10/2011 at 18:28

    iPhone when and how big?

    they have been very careful to only show drawings not pictures

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:29

    they have been very careful to only show drawings not pictures

    They said it looks the same

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:29

    I meant capacity

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:30

    Here comes the Johnny Ive video

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:31

    Same slippery glass back :(

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 18:32

    Good grief: https://plus.google.com/111091089527727420853/posts/jAoRVKWi89o

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:33
  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:34

    I NEED THAT!!

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:34

    Good grief: https://plus.goog…posts/jAoRVKWi89o

    Great comment: "Your screens are bigger than my attention span!"

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:34

    Siri app [old one] is down on the app store

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:35

    64GB YES!!

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 18:35

    64GB $399

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:35

    3GS free with contract [US only?]

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:36

    64GB YES!!

    32 or 64? Hmmm. Will have a think.

    3GS is now free if you opt for that in the US (w/ 2-year contract). That's really interesting.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:36

    Prepoders 7th, Release 14th Oct - US only?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:37

    3GS is now free if you opt for that in the US (w/ 2-year contract). That's really interesting.

    $99 for 4

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 18:37

    Prepoders 7th, Release 14th Oct - US only?

    14th in UK

  • Lukeh04/10/2011 at 18:37

    Paul o grady is back

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:37

    14th in UK

    Cool

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:37

    Prepoders 7th, Release 14th Oct - US only?

    14th in UK

    No Asian countries in the October rollouts - might we get our chance in November?

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:39

    64GB Black please, I know what I'm doing Sat after qualifying :D

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:39

    No Asian countries in the October rollouts - might we get our chance in November?

    Japan

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:40

    No Asian countries in the October rollouts - might we get our chance in November?

    Japan

    Oh yeah! :D Just them, though.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:40

    No Asian countries in the October rollouts - might we get our chance in November?

    Singapore on the 28th

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:40

    Tim really leaves the talking to his technical guys. Some interesting features in there, but the talk was a bit underwhelming for me.

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:41

    Singapore on the 28th

    And them. :D Argh. So JP and SG. Interesting no HK/China in there.

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 18:41

    64GB Black please, I know what I'm doing Sat after qualifying :D

    What you need is a birthday in the next few weeks...

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:41

    What you need is a birthday in the next few weeks...

    :D

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:47

    Updated for the 4S now

    http://www.apple.com/iphone/

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:48

    cheers for all the comments and the thread. v.useful.

    glad i don't have to buy anything, but 1080p in you pocket is worth some more thought.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:49

    apple homepage is down :)

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:49

    apple homepage is down :)

    Back now with a new splash screen

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:52

    Camera: Face detection in still images

    Video: AirPlay Mirroring to Apple TV support at 720p [not for iPod], Video mirroring and video out support: Up to 1080p with Apple Adapters

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:53

    ipod touch is a dead product then. in terms of features and interest at least.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:54

    ipod touch is a dead product then. in terms of features and interest at least.

    It'll always be at least a year behind the phone

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:54

    It'll always be at least a year behind the phone

    it's two years now. if it didn't get any upgrades.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:56

    Lukeh: starts at £169

    http://www.apple.com/uk/ipodtouch/

    [store still down though]

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:58

    Apple iPhone and iPod pages are down intermittently

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:58

    wouldn't have happened on steve's watch ;)

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 18:59

    iPod Classic 160GB down to £178 on Amazon

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-iPod-classic-160GB-Generation/dp/B002MRRROQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317754723&sr=8-1

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 19:00

    wouldn't have happened on steve's watch ;)

    Force Quit in North Carolina?

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:00

    keynote getting slammed on scoble's thread:

    https://plus.google.com/111091089527727420853/posts/8mxuvFzZa1F

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 19:01

    keynote getting slammed on scoble's thread:

    Good, I'll be able to get one next weekend then

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 19:03

    keynote getting slammed on scoble's thread:

    https://plus.goog…posts/8mxuvFzZa1F

    It's the new YouTube comments

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:04

    It's the new YouTube comments

    nothing like that bad.

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 19:06
  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:07

    iPad 2 only I think

    that's cool. we need it to work on ipad2 at work.

    *counts down to the 12th*

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 19:09

    Store is back up http://store.apple.com/uk/

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 19:10

    iPod Touch is cheaper now

    8GB 169 [was 193]

    32GB 249 [was 254]

    64GB 329 [was 336]

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 19:36

    AppleCare+ will cover accidental damage

    http://store.apple.com/us/product/S4575?mco=MjU5MTk4MjQ

  • Bassano04/10/2011 at 19:41

    [fake]@Charlie_Whiting:

    I'd like to introduce everyone to HRT's new Supercomputer: The iPhone 4S. Only $299 with a 2 year contract. :lol:

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:15

    hehe!

  • Journeyer05/10/2011 at 23:55

    Posting here as there's no other better place to post here.

    Steve Jobs has passed away,

    http://gizmodo.com/5838847/steve-jobs-is-dead

  • Mr C05/10/2011 at 23:58

    cheers j. i shall post something shortly. just need a minute.

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 00:49

    or maybe more than a minute. sorry.

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 00:52

    or maybe more than a minute. sorry.

    It's hard to even know what to say.

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 00:55

    It's hard to even know what to say.

    for a person i didn't know, never met. seems to have hit quite hard. can't really explain it.

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 00:56

    for a person i didn't know, never met. seems to have hit quite hard. can't really explain it.

    I understand. He was such a creative force, a light. He changed how we live. That's a personal thing.

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:00

    for a person i didn't know, never met. seems to have hit quite hard. can't really explain it.

    I imagine a lot of Apple fans feel the same

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 01:02

    i wrecked one his creations with rosé wine, but shall still raise a glass now.

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 01:05

    leo's about to go live on cnn to talk about steve: http://live.twit.tv/

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:06

    leo's about to go live on cnn to talk about steve: http://live.twit.tv/

    I have been watching for 20 minutes and I have never bought an Apple product in my life

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:07

    I have been watching for 20 minutes and I have never bought an Apple product in my life

    Puts me in mind of this tweet:

    @mattmay Matt May by antichrista

    Doesn't matter what brand of computer/device/OS you use. What you use is better than it would've been because of Steve Jobs.

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:08

    leo's about to go live on cnn to talk about steve: http://live.twit.tv/

    cute doggie alert

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:09

    cute doggie alert

    oh, he's gone.

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:09

    cute doggie alert

    ozzie

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:11

    Wow, it's like Leo's waiting in line or something with everyone they're interviewing.

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:12

    Wow, it's like Leo's waiting in line or something with everyone they're interviewing.

    They will have loads of people lined up and won't get to half of them

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:14

    Nov 21st his biography comes out. The only authorized one.

  • guille230606/10/2011 at 01:14

    Puts me in mind of this tweet:

    @mattmay Matt May by antichrista

    Doesn't matter what brand of computer/device/OS you use. What you use is better than it would've been because of Steve Jobs.

    Completely agree with it. A very sad day for all the technology world...

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:14

    Real bonus that we don't need to listen to Piers Morgan

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:14

    Nov 21st his biography comes out. The only authorized one.

    A bit scary how that seems to be perfectly timed.

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:15

    or maybe more than a minute. sorry.

    It's hard to even know what to say.

    for a person i didn't know, never met. seems to have hit quite hard. can't really explain it.

    Understood. It may take some time to process for all of us.

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:16

    Real bonus that we don't need to listen to Piers Morgan

    Thank goodness for small favors.

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:18

    Understood. It may take some time to process for all of us.

    I didn't think it would affect me that much, being fairly new to having Mac stuff (2 years), but he just changed so much in such a short time.

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:19

    I didn't think it would affect me that much, being fairly new to having Mac stuff (2 years), but he just changed so much in such a short time.

    338 patents.

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:20

    I didn't think it would affect me that much, being fairly new to having Mac stuff (2 years), but he just changed so much in such a short time.

    I also bought my first Mac device 2 years ago, but as a techie, I was so intrigued by the Gates-Jobs battles and wars. And as much as I loved Windows more than Mac OS (and still do), I was amazed by how Jobs turned about Apple from the brink of bankruptcy... to this.

  • guille230606/10/2011 at 01:23

    I didn't think it would affect me that much, being fairly new to having Mac stuff (2 years), but he just changed so much in such a short time.

    I've never had any Apple related device. Actually, I don't even agree with the philosophy of the Apple system. And yet I've dropped a tear...

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:24

    I also bought my first Mac device 2 years ago, but as a techie, I was so intrigued by the Gates-Jobs battles and wars. And as much as I loved Windows more than Mac OS (and still do), I was amazed by how Jobs turned about Apple from the brink of bankruptcy... to this.

    And to be hired back all those years ago after being fired and then to turn it into...this, as you so aptly said.

    And I do love elegant design so, so much. He had me at "i" :)

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:24

    On another note, this behind-the-scenes audio feed with CNN is interesting stuff. For me, anyway. Now I know how it works.

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:25

    This is a really good lesson in how TV works. You normally see it as being so slick and you assume everything is timed and planned to the second

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:25

    And to be hired back all those years ago after being fired and then to turn it into...this, as you so aptly said.

    They bought his new company to bring him back! That said a lot.

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:25

    On another note, this behind-the-scenes audio feed with CNN is interesting stuff. For me, anyway. Now I know how it works.

    You stole my comment

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 01:25

    He had me at "i"

    *hugs*

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:25

    On another note, this behind-the-scenes audio feed with CNN is interesting stuff. For me, anyway. Now I know how it works.

    You stole my comment

    :D

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:26

    They bought his new company to bring him back! That said a lot.

    aha, I'd forgotten that. Yes, it says everything.

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:27

    Thanks for being here, guys. Good to have your company on SPC.

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:29

    Thanks for being here, guys. Good to have your company on SPC.

    Indeed. When I first heard the news, I knew there would be no better place to chat than here.

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:31

    Obama has a statement on Jobs

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:31

    Obama has a statement on Jobs

    Bet GW Bush wouldn't have known who he was

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 01:32

    Obama has a statement on Jobs

    wow

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:32

    Leo has to follow Obama and Woz. Tough job

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:37

    Obama has a statement on Jobs

    Bet GW Bush wouldn't have known who he was

    :D

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:37

    Obama has a statement on Jobs

    wow

    For me, Jobs is the modern-day Edison. I remember the US went into a declared state of mourning for Edison. A statement from Obama is totally expected.

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:43

    Google has a simple tribute to Steve Jobs on the homepage:

    http://www.google.com/

    I would love to see a Steve Jobs doodle soon.

  • guille230606/10/2011 at 01:47

    I had forgotten about Jobs connection to Pixar.

    Forget about all the i-things, without Jobs we wouldn't have had Toy Story, Nemo, Wall-e, Cars, Monsters Inc...

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:48

    My students just did a project on inventors. Several chose Steve Jobs. They turned in the project today.

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:50

    I had forgotten about Jobs connection to Pixar.

    Forget about all the i-things, without Jobs we wouldn't have had Toy Story, Nemo, Wall-e, Cars, Monsters Inc...

    Indeed. The thing about Steve is that he would have been remembered if he had just made the Macintosh. Or just founded Pixar. Or just made the iPod. Or just the iPhone. Or just the iPad. But he had his hand in ALL of them.

  • Kai06/10/2011 at 01:53

    Celebrating his life is just what I want to do (as I type on the MacBook). :)

    Good night all.

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 01:53

    night kai.

  • Journeyer06/10/2011 at 01:54

    Celebrating his life is just what I want to do (as I type on the MacBook). :)

    Leo done on CNN. Short but sweet.

    Off to nap. Good night all.

  • guille230606/10/2011 at 01:54

    Celebrating his life is just what I want to do (as I type on the MacBook). :)

    :D

    Good night all.

    Night Kai

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:54

    Good night all.

    Night

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 01:54

    Off to nap. Good night all.

    Night

  • jpancoast06/10/2011 at 02:09

    heh, my sidepodcast commenters tweet stream is filled with stuff about Steve Jobs.

    Except for AMy's tweet about buying a dress at a massive discount :)

    (Just thought it was kind of humorous)

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 02:10

    Except for AMy's tweet about buying a dress at a massive discount :)

    Different priorities

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 02:21

    sorry it took a while: http://sidepodcast.com/post/he-had-me-at-i

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 02:25

    sorry it took a while: sidepodcast.com/p…st/he-had-me-at-i

    I think you hit exactly the right note

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 02:29

    I think you hit exactly the right note

    thank you. feel stupid for taking so long. feel better for writing it.

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 02:30

    thank you. feel stupid for taking so long. feel better for writing it.

    It takes as long as it takes. I wouldn't worry about it taking longer than you thought

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 02:36

    Why have a piper playing in California?

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 02:38

    piper?

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 02:38

    piper?

    There is a man in full highland dress playing the bagpipes in Cupertino outside the Apple campus

  • Mr C06/10/2011 at 02:39

    There is a man in full highland dress playing the bagpipes in Cupertino outside the Apple campus

    wha? odd.

  • Steven Roy06/10/2011 at 02:39

    wha? odd.

    Leo just showed it. It may just be a random piper trying to get on TV

  • Amy06/10/2011 at 06:02

    Different priorities

    heh, didn't feel a need to tweet about Steve when the entire rest of everyone had already said it all :)