The Sidepodcast community will live comment its first baseball match at 19:00 (GMT +1), 14:00 (EST) today. Other than to enjoy the game the reason for this live session is to allow Mr C to get a grasp of the game and decide whether he should buy the app, subscribe to the TV station and see if he can figure out the on screen graphics and potential to create graphs from all the stats. I know there will be people watching their first ever game but it is far easier for those with some knowledge to explain the game as it happens rather than to try to do it all in this post. It is a simple game but with lots of complication and subtleties thrown in like most sports.

 B.J. Upton of the Tampa Bay Rays

Credit: Keith Allison / CC:Flickr

B.J. Upton of the Tampa Bay Rays

The game

The game is the 4th of a possible 5 in the American League Division Series (ALDS). The baseball season has a regular season where each team plays 162 games. The teams are split into the American League and the National League with each league split into 3 divisions. The winners of each division and the second placed team with the best record qualify for the ALDS and NLDS. These series are contested over up to 5 games with the first team to win 3 going through to the next round of playoffs.

The teams

Texas qualified by winning the American League west division by winning 96 of 162 games. Tampa qualified by finishing second to the New York Yankees in the east division with 91 victories. The first two games were played at Texas with Tampa winning the first game 9 runs to 0 and Texas winning the second 8 runs to 6. The third and fourth games are played in Tampa with the fifth, if necessary, going back to Texas. The third game was last night with Texas winning 4 runs to 3 by so if Texas win tonight they go through to the next stage but if Tampa wins the series goes to the 5th game so tonight’s result is absolutely vital.

The winner of this series will play the winner of the similar series contested by the New York Yankees and the Detroit Tigers. Detroit leads that series 2-1 just now and if they win one of the remaining two games the Yankees who had the best record in the American League regular season go out. Then the winner of that series will play in the World Series against the winners of the parallel serieseses in the National League.

The coverage

We are used to FOM/FIA providing us with very poor live data but baseball is on a whole different planet. Every pitch that is thrown is not only shown graphically but is accompanied by all the data you could ever need including the speed of the ball, the path the ball took etc. I won’t go in to much detail but you can find all the relevant info at atmlb.com

Everything else

Despite the fact that many players are involved in each game the theory is that pitching wins baseball games and each game is viewed as a contest between the starting pitchers. Tonight they are Jeremy Hellickson for Tampa and Matt Harrison for Texas. Each team starts with 9 players plus the pitcher but during the game there can be many substitutions. The only important rule here is once a player has been replaced he cannot return to the game. When a team is not batting it has a pitcher and 8 fielders. In the National League the pitchers bat but they do not in the American League. So each team has a player known as the designated hitter or DH who bats but doesn’t field.

242 responses

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:52

    heloooo baseball...

    daft question, is there a stream?

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 17:54

    162 games?!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 17:55

    Stream should be at http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/84377/1/watch-tampa-bay-rays-vs-texas-rangers.html

    They are showing the end of football program just now

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:55

    162 games?!

    i like the 20 race f1 season!

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:56

    Stream should be at www.firstrowsport…exas-rangers.html

    awesome, cheers.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 17:57

    162 games?!

    These guys make ridiculous money but they work for it. Sometimes they play two in one day

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 17:57

    This whole 'American' vs 'National' thing in NFL and MLB seems purposely designed to confuse everyone.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 17:58

    i like the 20 race f1 season!

    Imagine Christine having to FBFB 162 games a season. And that only covers one team

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 17:58

    Every time I post a comment the 'Submit Comment' button greys out after sending it, so I can't send another until I refresh the page.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 17:59

    Imagine Christine having to FBFB 162 games a season. And that only covers one team

    can you explain why these two played last night and are playing again today?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:00

    This whole 'American' vs 'National' thing in NFL and MLB seems purposely designed to confuse everyone.

    They started off as entirely separate organisations

    Every time I post a comment the 'Submit Comment' button greys out after sending it, so I can't send another until I refresh the page.

    In dashboard too

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:00

    Every time I post a comment the 'Submit Comment' button greys out after sending it, so I can't send another until I refresh the page.

    realtime/dashboard/yeolde, chap?

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 18:01

    Hmm, baseball. As in... if you build it, they he will come?

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 18:01

    can you explain why these two played last night and are playing again today?

    Playoff series. DOn't know if it's best of 7 or best of 5.

    Plus, unless you're a pitcher, it's not really that hard to play baseball 2 nights in a row :)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:01

    can you explain why these two played last night and are playing again today?

    They play the best of a series of 5 games. Texas are winning 2-1 so if they win tonight they go through to the next stage.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:02

    In dashboard too

    hmm, 2 secs.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:02

    Hmm, baseball. As in... if you build it, they he will come?

    Yes. Didn't know you were an expert

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:03

    Stream live now

    http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/84377/1/watch-tampa-bay-rays-vs-texas-rangers.html

    Data etc

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_10_04_texmlb_tbamlb_1&mode=gameday

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 18:04

    Yes. Didn't know you were an expert

    Hehe. That is, quite genuinely, the extent of my knowledge.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:05

    This is like the old days when F5 was the most used key on my keyboard

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 18:06

    Every time I post a comment the 'Submit Comment' button greys out after sending it, so I can't send another until I refresh the page.

    Dashboard. Sorry I try to say that but the computer hung (it does that on cold start).

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:07

    Hehe. That is, quite genuinely, the extent of my knowledge.

    All you need to know for now is the visiting team always bats first and once three players are out the team is out. Game is 9 innings unless the score is level in which case they keep playing extra innings till they get a winner

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:08

    testing comments...

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:09

    Home run on the second pitch. Incredible

    1-0 Texas

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:10

    The blue box shows the strike zone in front of the batter. If the pitcher throws 3 strikes (ball passes through the strike zone) the batter is out. Any pitch outside the strike zone is called a ball. 4 Balls and the batter gets a free walk to 1st base

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:11

    testing dashboard comments too...

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:12

    This is like the old days when F5 was the most used key on my keyboard

    retro!

    if you refresh this thread comments should be okay now: http://sidepodcast.com/post/live-rangers-at-the-rays-alds-game-4

    dashboard also: http://sidepodcast.com/dashboard

    sorry about that, upgraded the jquery library. must've broken something.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:12

    Now my stream has gone flaky

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 18:12

    dashboard also: http://sidepodcast.com/dashboard

    thanks

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:13

    The blue box strike zone is for TV only. The umpire behind the catcher decides officially of a pitch is a strike or a ball. So sometimes the two disagree

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:15

    *settles down to watch a ball game*

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 18:15

    Now my stream has gone flaky

    switched to this

    http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/10455/1/mlb-playoffs---texas-rangers-vs-tampa-bay-rays.html

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:15

    Now Texas have had 3 players out Tampa bats. When the visiting team bats it is known as the top of the inning and when the home team bats its the bottom of the inning. They also talk about half innings which is just confusing

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:15

    i have video and stats, anything else i need?

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 18:15

    *settles down to watch a ball game*

    You sound like you know all the lingo.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:16

    You sound like you know all the lingo.

    i consider this research so that i can understand moneyball ;)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:16

    The Rays 3rd baseman is called Evan Longoria and no opposing fan ever called him Eva - much

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:17

    Is everyone having problems with the stream. I am trying to find something better

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 18:17

    Now Texas have had 3 players out Tampa bats. When the visiting team bats it is known as the top of the inning and when the home team bats its the bottom of the inning. They also talk about half innings which is just confusing

    The reset the entire field every 3 players?

  • Janna04/10/2011 at 18:18

    i have video and stats, anything else i need?

    Just this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGws1yR0tg8

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:19

    i have video and stats, anything else i need?

    Don't think so

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:19

    The reset the entire field every 3 players?

    Yes

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:19

    Just this www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=JGws1yR0tg8

    ahah!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:22

    The 'score' board in the top left of the screen shows the run score. Then they is a diagram showing the bases. When they are yellow there is a man on that base so now there are men on 1st and second

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:22

    The 'score' board in the top left of the screen shows the run score. Then they is a diagram showing the bases. When they are yellow there is a man on that base so now there are men on 1st and second

    And then he gets out and ruins my explanation

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:23

    For some reason new comments are coming into the dashboard but not scrolling up even though I have scroll selected

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:24

    And then he gets out and ruins my explanation

    :)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:26

    Another home run. This game could be over fast

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:28

    After the base diagram the score board shows which inning we are in. Just now it has a 2 with a little arrow above it pointing up so we are in the top of the second.

    The numbers that appear in the next section are the pitch count. 2-0 2 ball 0 strikes

    Then there are 3 little LED like lights which show how many players are out

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:32

    The pitchers are not always trying to throw strikes. They also try to make the batter go for pitches outside the zone that are likely to get them in trouble

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:33

    i like they squeeze ads into the stats window!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:35

    i like they squeeze ads into the stats window!

    Never miss an opportunity to sell

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:35

    Another home run. This game could be over fast

    it needs to be longer, i have more stats to read!

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:36

    any idea what they call "postseason"?

    Watch all live postseason action with MLB.TV.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:37

    ooops, broken camera!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:37

    If you point your mouse at any of the numbered pitches in the data you get some stats info on that pitch. Looks like they have simplified the data available and removed some of it. I assume they have a paywall version with more info

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 18:38

    If you point your mouse at any of the numbered pitches in the data you get some stats info on that pitch. Looks like they have simplified the data available and removed some of it. I assume they have a paywall version with more info

    It has a Nasty Factor

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:38

    any idea what they call "postseason"?

    League Division Series, League Championship Series, and the World Series

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:38

    League Division Series, League Championship Series, and the World Series

    wha?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:39

    any idea what they call "postseason"?

    The regular season is 162 games per team. The playoffs that result from that are the post season. So now you are watching a post season game. All American sports have the same structure. This is why NASCAR introduced the race for the chase for the cup for the thing

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:39

    ah-ha. so:

    - season

    - postseason

    - offseason

    ?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:40

    It has a Nasty Factor

    That used to be more complicated. Looks like nasty factor replaces the data that showed how the ball moved threw the air. They used to describe the curve almost mathmatically

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:40

    ah-ha. so:

    Exactly

    Of course there is pre-season before season

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:41

    Of course there is pre-season before season

    They play games against other teams in a totally structured manner but they don't count for anything

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:42

    Of course there is pre-season before season

    oh!

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:42

    OUCH!!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:42

    Any player on a base can run any time he likes. So you will see them try to get as far as they can from the base they are on but not so far that the pitcher can throw to the fielder and catch him out

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:43

    OUCH!!

    Baseball is a contact sport

  • Journeyer04/10/2011 at 18:44

    Must dash, enjoy the baseball!

    Go Rays!

    PS. I think once Mr C gets a grasp of the game, he might get interested in the statistics. Just maybe. :)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:44

    Baseball is a contact sport

    If the catcher had been able to get his foot on the base the batter is out but the ball arrived too late for that so he tried to tag the batter out

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 18:45

    he might get interested in the statistics

    i'm clicking and clicking and there's more to click!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:45

    By Journeyer

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 18:45

    i'm clicking and clicking and there's more to click!

    If you're a statistics guy, then baseball is your game.

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 18:46

    If you're a statistics guy, then baseball is your game.

    They even make crap up because they have to make it more interesting.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:46

    i'm clicking and clicking and there's more to click!

    Have you tried the buttons at the bottom of the data page like box / summary etc. Lots more data there.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:47

    End of the second

    Rays 1

    Rangers 2

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 18:47

    Have you tried the buttons at the bottom of the data page like box / summary etc. Lots more data there.

    This is Tropicana Field in St Pete? That sits in the 'infield' of the IndyCar street/airport track.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:49

    This is Tropicana Field in St Pete? That sits in the 'infield' of the IndyCar street/airport track.

    Yes

    http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/tb/ballpark/index.jsp

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:50

    Rangers lead off hitter didn't get a home run that time. Obviously hadn't read the script

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 18:51

    tampabay.rays.mlb…allpark/index.jsp

    Heh, they actually have a tank of rays behind the field.

    "If a player hits a home run into the tank, then the organization will donate $5,000 to charity - $2,500 to the Florida Aquarium and $2,500 to the player's charity of choice."

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 18:52

    Heh, they actually have a tank of rays behind the field.

    Yes. I have seen a few games there and never seen anyone get near it

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:03

    End of the 3rd

    Rays 1

    Rangers 2

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:04

    love the dashboard video replays. that's good going.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:06

    love the dashboard video replays. that's good going.

    Imagine Bernie doing that

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:08

    Imagine Bernie doing that

    this is miles away from bernie. light years :)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:08

    ANother home run for Beltran.

    Texas are not bothering with the more traditional get a man on base and find a way to get him round

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:10

    Apart from the home runs the pitchers are dominating. They will get tired in a couple of innings

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:10

    Popping in as I can at the office. Watching the game live on TV, looks like the live feed online is 10 to 15 seconds off.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:11

    Apart from the home runs the pitchers are dominating. They will get tired in a couple of innings

    There is so much load on their throwing shoulder that there is a limit to how many pitches they can throw in a day. Starting pitchers work on a 5 day rotation so each team has 5 starters

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:11

    Popping in as I can at the office. Watching the game live on TV, looks like the live feed online is 10 to 15 seconds off.

    hey ya! i have to keep looking away from the stats window cause it gives away the plays :)

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:12

    Starting pitchers work on a 5 day rotation so each team has 5 starters

    how big is a team then?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:12

    They also have a bunch of other pitchers who will come in for various specialist reasons later in the game

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:13

    how big is a team then?

    I automatically went to the Yankees site. I am biased what can I say

    http://yankees.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=nyy

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:14

    I automatically went to the Yankees site. I am biased what can I say

    Designated Hitter?

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:15

    oh wait, i read that in the post. carry on.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:16

    They have a 40 man roster. DL next to a player means disabled list

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=nyy

    Teams have a whole network of teams at lower levels of baseball. Imagine having a GP2 team, a couple of F3 and F Renault teams etc. They can call up or send down players to those teams as well so they have a ridiculous number of players available

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:16

    oh wait, i read that in the post. carry on.

    :D

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:17

    Designated hitter is exactly as it sounds: A player who's in the batting order strictly to hit. This is an American League position. In the National League, the pitcher bats, and there is no designated hitter. In the American League, the pitcher doesn't bat and is replaced in the order by the DH.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:18

    If a batter swings his bat beyond the straight ahead position it is a strike regardless where the pitch goes. That is what got the last guy out

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:19

    I'm probably dense but can't figure out how to reply to comments.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:20

    I'm probably dense but can't figure out how to reply to comments.

    If you go to sidepodcast.com/dashboard you just click on the comment to quote it

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:20

    I'm probably dense but can't figure out how to reply to comments.

    if you're using the dashboard, you just click the text you want to quote and it copies it into the comment box: http://sidepodcast.com/dashboard

    on the main thread, you have to click the quote button and copy/paste, sadly: http://sidepodcast.com/post/live-rangers-at-the-rays-alds-game-4

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:21

    if you're using the dashboard, you just click the text you want to quote and it copies it into the comment box: http://sidepodcast.com/dashboard

    Aha!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:24

    Mr C

    Did you catch the blue line trailing the pitch on that replay?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:25

    Rays pick up a second run

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:25

    Did you catch the blue line trailing the pitch on that replay?

    on the video or stats page? i think i missed it.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:26

    End of the fourth

    Rays 2

    Rangers 3

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:27

    on the video or stats page? i think i missed it.

    On the video. Literally 5 seconds after it happened

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:28

    On the video. Literally 5 seconds after it happened

    damn no. i had a blue line on the stats.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:29

    Pitcher change. for the Rays. Seems early. Hellickson was doing OK

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:31

    Pitcher change. for the Rays. Seems early. Hellickson was doing OK

    TV was saying it was his shortest start of the year. Not sure why they pulled him.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:33

    cool!

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:34

    ...i have no idea who i'm supporting mind you.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:34

    hey. yas marina track in an advert. #crossover

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:35

    TV was saying it was his shortest start of the year. Not sure why they pulled him.

    The only thing I can see is that he only threw 1 strike out where Harrison had 9 but it is not as if he was ever in trouble

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 19:35

    ...i have no idea who i'm supporting mind you.

    I'm still trying to work out what's going on, although I did take a break

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:36

    ...i have no idea who i'm supporting mind you.

    I think you are probably allowed a few games before you choose. You haven't seen the Yankees yet

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:36

    I'm still trying to work out what's going on, although I did take a break

    Anything in particular you are struggling with?

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 19:37

    Anything in particular you are struggling with?

    The commentary talking in code rather than telling me what's happening

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:37

    ...i have no idea who i'm supporting mind you.

    Rangers are a perennial underdog and have never won a World Series. Rays have only been good in the past, what, 5-7 years? Something like that.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:38

    Texas have a relief pitcher warming up too

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:38

    Rangers are a perennial underdog and have never won a World Series.

    sounds like my kinda team :)

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:39

    the ads fill the lower third, hides the player's name. grr.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:39

    The commentary talking in code rather than telling me what's happening

    There is a lot of jargon.

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:39

    Rangers are a perennial underdog and have never won a World Series.

    sounds like my kinda team :)

    They're from Texas, so they've got that going for 'em.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:39

    the ads fill the lower third, hides the player's name. grr.

    I click them away

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 19:39

    They're from Texas, so they've got that going for 'em.

    Only YOU would say that ;)

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:40

    They're from Texas, so they've got that going for 'em.

    awesome, dallas!

    ;)

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:40

    They're from Texas, so they've got that going for 'em.

    Only YOU would say that ;)

    heheh ;)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:41

    awesome, dallas!

    Arlington

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:43

    Arlington

    oh.

    :)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:43

    End of the 5th

    Rays 2

    Rangers 3

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:46

    Mr C

    Try clicking on the pitcher box that pops up on the data screen. Click on Hot/cold - velocity etc

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:47

    I gotta say, there is a lot of information in the MLB Gameday feed. Seems like it would be overwhelming if you're trying to learn the game.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:47

    I gotta say, there is a lot of information in the MLB Gameday feed. Seems like it would be overwhelming if you're trying to learn the game.

    It is incredible how much information they generate

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:48

    Seems like it would be overwhelming if you're trying to learn the game.

    it is!

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:48

    It is incredible how much information they generate

    And how quickly!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:49

    Hard to argue against the pitching change now

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:49

    Click on Hot/cold - velocity etc

    erm, i saw that once... i have no idea how to get back to it!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:50

    erm, i saw that once... i have no idea how to get back to it!

    That box pops up at the end of each half inning. It's there now

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 19:51

    Must Say, Mr. StatesmanF1, I've read quite a few of your articles, hopefully the GP in Austin works out next year (Have a friend in Austin, I live in CO).

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:51

    Pitching change for Texas now

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:52

    That box pops up at the end of each half inning. It's there now

    ahh, the pressure. i know it's there, i just can't find it :)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:53

    ahh, the pressure. i know it's there, i just can't find it :)

    Wait till Tampa get three players out and it will appear again. I can't find it otherwise

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 19:53

    I gotta say, there is a lot of information in the MLB Gameday feed. Seems like it would be overwhelming if you're trying to learn the game.

    Especially when it is 15 seconds ahead of the video feed!

  • Christine04/10/2011 at 19:53

    ahh, the pressure. i know it's there, i just can't find it :)

    Hehehe, all I can hear is panic from the other desk.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:54

    i think it might not appear if i have other boxes open. screen cleared now.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:54

    ahh, the pressure. i know it's there, i just can't find it :)

    Click on the pitcher's name on the left panel

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:55

    Click on the pitcher's name on the left panel

    woot! sliders...

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:55

    Hehehe, all I can hear is panic from the other desk.

    :D

    I love the idea of you live commenting Mr C

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:55

    woot! sliders...

    :D

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:56

    i feel like this is more information than nasa needs.

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 19:56

    Must Say, Mr. StatesmanF1, I've read quite a few of your articles, hopefully the GP in Austin works out next year (Have a friend in Austin, I live in CO).

    Yeah, I really should be working. ;) We'll see how it all shakes out. Still on track as far as we can tell.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 19:57

    i feel like this is more information than nasa needs.

    Probably more than NASA has

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 19:58

    Yeah, I really should be working.

    wonder if you could swing this as research? what f1 needs to do to improve coverage and keep up.

  • statesmanf104/10/2011 at 20:01

    Actually, I do have to get back to work. Things is ahappenin'. Cheers, y'all!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:01

    End of the 6th

    Rays 2

    Rangers 3

  • jpancoast04/10/2011 at 20:01

    wonder if you could swing this as research? what f1 needs to do to improve coverage and keep up.

    Heh. We probably have a thousand good ideas in this thread when it comes to that.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:02

    Heh. We probably have a thousand good ideas in this thread when it comes to that.

    What Austin could learn from other Texas sports organisations?

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:03

    Actually, I do have to get back to work. Things is ahappenin'. Cheers, y'all

    cheers sir!

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:04

    Heh. We probably have a thousand good ideas in this thread when it comes to that.

    was reading that nfl and mbl teams have their own tv studios. good lord, mclaren tv three times a week would be amazing.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:04

    Beltran hits a 3rd home run. Talk about someone having a good day

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:05

    was reading that nfl and mbl teams have their own tv studios. good lord, mclaren tv three times a week would be amazing.

    They should have plenty of space now. Lots of the top British football clubs have their own TV stations and have done for years

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:05

    They should have plenty of space now. Lots of the top British football clubs have their own TV stations and have done for years

    but nothing from f1 teams?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:06

    Beltran hits a 3rd home run. Talk about someone having a good day

    His name is Beltre. Why do I keep hearing Beltran?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:06

    but nothing from f1 teams?

    Not that I know of. F1 teams don't cultivate fans the way football teams do

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:07

    so if it's too early to sign up to MLB pass this year, when does the next season start?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:07

    That pitching was messy.

    One of the odd things about baseball is coaches can just walk on to the field for a chat

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:08

    so if it's too early to sign up to MLB pass this year, when does the next season start?

    April/May I think

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:08

    April/May I think

    ahh, shoot.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:09

    April/May I think

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/?tcid=mm_mlb_schedule#date=04/04/2012

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 20:09

    They should have plenty of space now. Lots of the top British football clubs have their own TV stations and have done for years

    So do Audi

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:10

    ahh, shoot.

    You still have the chance to see a few post season games

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:10

    So do Audi

    And Honda had something too

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:10

    You still have the chance to see a few post season games

    true. just realised the ATBAT free app is coving this game too.

    more information...

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:15

    Rays need to do something soon. If they lose their season is over

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:16

    Pitching change for Texas

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:22

    End of the 7th

    Rays 2

    Rangers 4

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:25

    crowd seem kinda restless?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:27

    crowd seem kinda restless?

    Their team needs to get their finger out or their season is finished

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:27

    Their team needs to get their finger out or their season is finished

    ah-ha.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:27

    Their team needs to get their finger out or their season is finished

    Unlike here because of the distances involved most games have only home team fans present

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:28

    for some reason i always had US sports down as needing lots of points per game, but so far 4-2 could be a football score.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:28

    This has been a very tame game where it has never got complicated. You could have had a far more interesting first game. Low scoring too

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:29

    This has been a very tame game where it has never got complicated. You could have had a far more interesting first game. Low scoring too

    i reckon i need it to be on a bit later too. i could chill out and watch NFL at 3am, because i'm winding down. still lots going on at 9pm

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:29

    for some reason i always had US sports down as needing lots of points per game, but so far 4-2 could be a football score.

    The previous 3 games average ten runs. I think the low scores in baseball are why they are so keen on base hits, strike outs, etc etc

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 20:30

    It can't have many viewers in the US with most at work

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:30

    i reckon i need it to be on a bit later too. i could chill out and watch NFL at 3am, because i'm winding down. still lots going on at 9pm

    Most games are later but I thought this one would suit more people. Most games start at midnight / 1am

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 20:30

    It can't have many viewers in the US with most at work

    I suppose that's no different to cricket

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:31

    It can't have many viewers in the US with most at work

    I just don't understand why such an important game would be on at this time

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:31

    Most games are later but I thought this one would suit more people. Most games start at midnight / 1am

    makes sense.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:34

    When they get this late in the game you often get lots of quick pitching changes where a pitcher who is ideal to get rid of one batter will be brought in then replaced as soon as that batter is dealt with

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:36

    You can also expect the Rays to start substituting batters. They will bring on batters who are more likely to get to first base but have other weaknesses then as soon as they get there they will be replaced by a specialist base runner

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:36

    then as soon as they get there they will be replaced by a specialist base runner

    didn't realise that was an option. how odd.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:38

    didn't realise that was an option. how odd.

    They can substitute pretty much anyone at any time but once a player his replaced he is finished for the night. Of course you don't need to worry about removing one of your best fielders when their is only one inning left because if you can't get runs it doesn't matter how well you field

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:40

    Have you seen the release point info on the pitcher data screen. Love it. Even lets you zoom in.

    Imagine that for a line through a corner or a turn in or apex point

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:41

    Beltre again. Wonder if he will get a 4th home run

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:41

    Have you seen the release point info on the pitcher data screen. Love it. Even lets you zoom in.

    yeah, i was obsessing over the slider. my only complaint about the data is the size. i need to zoom that up fullscreen.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:41

    yeah, i was obsessing over the slider. my only complaint about the data is the size. i need to zoom that up fullscreen.

    Yes

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:42

    Beltre again. Wonder if he will get a 4th home run

    ummmm

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:44

    ummmm

    It had to stop sometime. 3 in one game is ridiculous enough. 4 would just have been silly

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:45

    It had to stop sometime. 3 in one game is ridiculous enough. 4 would just have been silly

    fair point. he was going for it though.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:46

    fair point. he was going for it though.

    3 already got his name in the history books so he deserved the right to make his name a little bigger

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:47

    3 already got his name in the history books so he deserved the right to make his name a little bigger

    it did? woah.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:48

    End of the 8th

    Rays 2

    Rangers 4

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:49

    it did? woah.

    They showed a graphic earlier. It has only ever happened 6 or 7 times and 2 of those were Babe Ruth

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:52

    They showed a graphic earlier. It has only ever happened 6 or 7 times and 2 of those were Babe Ruth

    eek, i had no idea. #payattentionluv

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:54

    eek, i had no idea. #payattentionluv

    You were blinded by all that data

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:58

    Stolen base due to the catcher dropping the ball

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 20:59

    dang adverts. what did i miss?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 20:59

    It's now or never. Ray have to score at least two runs now or their season is over

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:00

    It's now or never. Ray have to score at least two runs now or their season is over

    blimey.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:01

    dang adverts. what did i miss?

    The player on 1st base ran for second as soon as the pitcher moved to pitch. The catcher was so busy watching him that he missed catching the ball. Normally he should catch it and throw it to second base to try to catch the player stealing and it tends to be touch and go who wins

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:03

    First player strikes out

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:06

    Second player gets a free walk to first because the pitcher threw 4 balls

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:07

    That's how you steal second base

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:08

    Now it gets interesting.

    Rays need one to equalise

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:11

    Only one out left

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:13

    done!

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:14

    Game over

    Tampa's season is over and Texas play the winner of the series between the New York Yankees and the Detroit Tigers

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:14

    that was a fun finish.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:14

    that was a fun finish.

    It was just getting interesting. It was a very tame, simple game though

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:15

    It was just getting interesting. It was a very tame, simple game though

    Disappointing for the first live game. We could have had a far more interesting game

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:16

    Disappointing for the first live game. We could have had a far more interesting game

    aside from my confusion at the start, i think my only objection is that 3.5hrs makes for a long game. i need to watch more casually next time. i haven't got much done :)

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:17

    aside from my confusion at the start, i think my only objection is that 3.5hrs makes for a long game. i need to watch more casually next time. i haven't got much done :)

    That is the problem with American sports. Too much time lost for TV ads and coaches just wandering out to talk to players etc. I don't think Americans get speed sporting

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:17

    i had no idea you could play baseball under a roof either.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:18

    i had no idea you could play baseball under a roof either.

    Seems odd in Florida. I can understand it in Minnesota or the like.

    A lot of these indoor stadia have both baseball and NFL football

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:18

    I don't think Americans get speed sporting

    hehe.

    much appreciate the thread though. good times.

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 21:19

    Disappointing for the first live game. We could have had a far more interesting game

    It didn't grab me and all the interruptions were distracting. Mind you I was never really settled in, I had to sort some dinner, and went for a shower.

    Alternating fielding teams every 5 minutes was confusing as I never knew who was doing what. I think the TV coverage could've been better in terms of camera shots because I never knew who was where, the graphic up top was all fine but I want to see them.

    There were some exciting moments though, when they dash off and try and beat the ball to the base.

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:19

    much appreciate the thread though. good times.

    Glad you enjoyed it. I will see what the next round of playoffs throws up in fixtures and see if there is a game at a time that more people can get involved

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 21:19

    Seems odd in Florida. I can understand it in Minnesota or the like.

    Bit hot there

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 21:20

    A lot of these indoor stadia have both baseball and NFL football

    They are completely different pitches though

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 21:21

    Cheers for the thread Steven. It was interesting to see a game and compare it to other things. Now I know what 'bottom of the ninth' means. :)

    And I learned a new (to me) TV network.

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:21

    Alternating fielding teams every 5 minutes was confusing as I never knew who was doing what. I think the TV coverage could've been better in terms of camera shots because I never knew who was where, the graphic up top was all fine but I want to see them.

    i need a better stream i think. i didn't get ads for models on channel 4 :)

  • Pat W04/10/2011 at 21:22

    i need a better stream i think. i didn't get ads for models on channel 4 :)

    There was that too, watching ball sports on a little lo-res web window didn't help me see what was happening. :) Maybe next time I'll get the iPad/netbook out to comment with and have monitor fullscreen

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:22

    It didn't grab me and all the interruptions were distracting. Mind you I was never really settled in, I had to sort some dinner, and went for a shower.

    It didn't really grab me to be honest. It was such a straightforward game that it never really got interesting until the end

    Alternating fielding teams every 5 minutes was confusing as I never knew who was doing what. I think the TV coverage could've been better in terms of camera shots because I never knew who was where, the graphic up top was all fine but I want to see them.

    Coverage was poor. Most games get better coverage

    There were some exciting moments though, when they dash off and try and beat the ball to the base.

    That is when it gets interesting. Especially when a pitcher gets three men on base and has to stop them scoring and still get players out. But I don't think we even had two players on base more than twice all night and that makes for a dull game. That and the early home runs took the sting out of the game

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:24

    They are completely different pitches though

    Yes. You occasionally see football pitches with a thick browny/orange stripe through it. There is one stadium where they have seats that are used for one sport but have to be moved out for the other

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:25

    There was that too, watching ball sports on a little lo-res web window didn't help me see what was happening. :) Maybe next time I'll get the iPad/netbook out to comment with and have monitor fullscreen

    I got into the sport when it was on Channel 5 so I know only had good pics but also commentary for dummies which makes it easier to understand

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:26

    cheers again. must dash now. is the next live commenting qualifying?

  • Steven Roy04/10/2011 at 21:29

    cheers again. must dash now. is the next live commenting qualifying?

    Maybe FP1 if people are up late

  • Mr C04/10/2011 at 21:46

    Maybe FP1 if people are up late

    see you there :)

  • Steven Roy07/10/2011 at 17:56

    I wish last night's game had been our first live game. The result went the wrong way so the Detroit Tigers play the Texas Rangers in the next round of the playoffs but the little bit I saw was unbelievably better than the game we watched.

    The bottom of the 7th inning alone was magic.