I hope everyone is having a good week so far, but if not, it's the mid-point today - Wednesday. Things can only get better, and if they don't get better then we're closer to the weekend than we were before. Now you have that uplifting thought, here are some other topics to think about:

  • Lukeh has written an excellent piece on his blog regarding his trip to Goodwood. It was his first time at the Festival of Speed and it's fair to say he got a lot more out of it than we did on our first attempt at navigating the hill!
  • For once, the letters F, I and A are not miserable around here, as there is the prospect of a new president come October. Okay, that's getting a bit carried away, but if someone is prepared to stand against the dreaded Max, then I am prepared to believe he can do it. Joe has some more information on Ari Vatanen and he seems to be an all round good guy.
  • Yesterday, we were discussing the relative merits of Villeneuve's attempts to rejoin the sport. Without wishing to ignite that debate again, Jacques did raise a good point that with the testing ban, experience counts for a lot. Who else would you like to see make a triumphant return, or who would you most like to stay away?

That'll do for now. Don't forget, you can listen to the last episode of the recent F1 Safety episode, or if you're hanging around for the omnibus, it should be along later today. I'll see you in the comments.

813 responses

  • Jeremy07/07/2009 at 23:32

    Bring back Franck (what's the opposite of sorry Christine?)

  • Lukeh07/07/2009 at 23:34

    Bring back Franck (what's the opposite of sorry Christine?)

    Urm... you're welcome Christine? :)

    I say bring back Jordan F1 so we can get EJ off BBC F1 and back into an area we won't hear from him as much

  • Nick07/07/2009 at 23:36

    I say bring back Jordan F1 so we can get EJ off BBC F1 and back into an area we won't hear from him as much

    Im starting to think id rather keep him over 'fans favourite' DC

  • Lukeh07/07/2009 at 23:36

    Im starting to think id rather keep him over 'fans favourite' DC

    Oh him and his helicopter rushes

    :P

  • Nick07/07/2009 at 23:38

    Oh him and his helicopter rushes

    At least EJ would be sure to stick around so he can tell tales of how Jordan basicly made F1 what it is today

  • Steven Roy07/07/2009 at 23:38

    Im starting to think id rather keep him over 'fans favourite' DC

    DC may not have helped his reputation at Goodwood but n TV he is way better than EJ

  • Jon Waldock07/07/2009 at 23:39

    DC may not have helped his reputation at Goodwood but n TV he is way better than EJ

    It may not be his fault, ya never know. He may have actually had no time on his hands!

  • Lukeh07/07/2009 at 23:40

    At least EJ would be sure to stick around so he can tell tales of how Jordan basicly made F1 what it is today

    I can hear it now...

    "Let me ask you something. My stupid pilot's late, he's just got an unbelievably lack of motivation for his job, and the use of KERS in his job has been a monumental failure, a true testament to how bad it has all been when we all know it was gonna be better without it. Back when I was with my team we did fine with KERS and stayed motivated. What do you think of Goodwood?"

  • Nick07/07/2009 at 23:41

    It may not be his fault, ya never know. He may have actually had no time on his hands!

    No time to even wave?

    It wasnt just that, when i was watching them get ready for the first f1 run of the weekend, everyone was calling out to the drivers, Timo came over, DC just wandered off to talk to the hangers on around the cars

  • Jon Waldock07/07/2009 at 23:42

    "Let me ask you something. My stupid pilot's late, he's just got an unbelievably lack of motivation for his job, and the use of KERS in his job has been a monumental failure, a true testament to how bad it has all been when we all know it was gonna be better without it. Back when I was with my team we did fine with KERS and stayed motivated. What do you think of Goodwood?"

    Anyone else just said that in an EJ accent in their head?

  • Lukeh07/07/2009 at 23:43

    Anyone else just said that in an EJ accent in their head?

    It works! :P

  • Jeremy07/07/2009 at 23:44

    I just heard the word idiot in a strong Irish accent in my head. As in EJiot!

  • Jon Waldock07/07/2009 at 23:46

    I just heard the word idiot in a strong Irish accent in my head. As in EJiot!

    niiiiiiiiice

  • Steven Roy07/07/2009 at 23:47

    I just heard the word idiot in a strong Irish accent in my head. As in EJiot!

    Dictionary

  • Lukeh07/07/2009 at 23:56

    Time to head off me thinks. Night all!

  • Jon Waldock07/07/2009 at 23:57

    Time to head off me thinks. Night all!

    night!

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 00:00

    Time to head off me thinks. Night all!

    Night. Think I'll head too. 1am is the earliest night I've had in ages and I need it!

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 00:01

    Oh... Night people!

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 00:07

    I know i was complaining that Wimbledon didnt start early enough, but why does the TV coverage of the ashes have to start at 10 am?

    Its just not gentile

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 00:08

    4 degrees this morning and frost on the ground. Someone needs to tell melbourne this is not new zealand and frost is unacceptable

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 00:10

    4 degrees this morning and frost on the ground. Someone needs to tell melbourne this is not new zealand and frost is unacceptable

    Aww i like frost, unless i'm on my bike. Coming down a hill with both brakes locked up and wheels not moving but me still moving is a baaad moment. And then the rear came round b....

    well...it was messy ;)

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 00:10

    4 degrees this morning and frost on the ground. Someone needs to tell melbourne this is not new zealand and frost is unacceptable

    But it does make the air nice and fresh and crunchy!

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 00:17

    Parting shot: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8138992.stm

    ESPN to set up UK sports channel.

    They already have ESPN America but this will be our own version

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 00:19

    Parting shot: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8138992.stm

    ESPN to set up UK sports channel.

    They already have ESPN America but this will be our own version

    Its replacing ESPN A. So much the same but with the premier leauge games which will be produced by sky

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 01:51

    I didn't know your name was 'Steven oy'. ;)

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 05:38

    I figured it out. The opposite of 'Sorry Christine' is 'ping'

    so what's the oppsite of Sorry Amy? Heikki?

  • Scott Woodwiss08/07/2009 at 05:45

    But it does make the air nice and fresh and crunchy!

    How can air be crunchy?

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 06:21

    How can air be crunchy?

    It's pretty crunchy when it's minus 6.

  • Rob Sinfield08/07/2009 at 08:10

    Kemblewatch - Morning all. Brawn have now gone and Williams are here today - looks like being a nicer day too.

    Cheers,

    Rob Sinfield

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 08:26

    I had a dream a giant rat came out of my fridge. I didn't want to open it this morning. Am kinda hungry.

  • F1Wolf08/07/2009 at 08:30

    I had a dream a giant rat came out of my fridge. I didn't want to open it this morning. Am kinda hungry.

    giant are officially only pandas

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 08:31

    giant are officially only pandas

    If it had been a panda, I woulda been straight in that fridge this morning :)

  • F1Wolf08/07/2009 at 08:45

    If it had been a panda, I woulda been straight in that fridge this morning

    but panda would only go into the fridge full of bamboo :-)

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 08:46

    but panda would only go into the fridge full of bamboo :-)

    Good point :)

  • F1Wolf08/07/2009 at 08:46

    talking panda - here is live stream, Panda Channel, live from our Ocean Park

    http://pctv.netvigator.com/pctv/players/panda/loadPlayer.jsp?channel=panda2

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 08:48

    today at work I dropped my phone into a sink.

    I had pretty bad mobile doohickey withdrawals.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 08:49

    today at work I dropped my phone into a sink.

    I had pretty bad mobile doohickey withdrawals.

    Ouchies. Is your mobile still working?

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 08:50

    Ouchies. Is your mobile still working?

    It still worked when I fished it out, but I turned it off and took it to bits to dry out for a while. Fingers crossed.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 08:50

    today at work I dropped my phone into a sink.

    I had pretty bad mobile doohickey withdrawals.

    Oh for the day when all mobiles are waterproof.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 08:51

    It still worked when I fished it out, but I turned it off and took it to bits to dry out for a while. Fingers crossed.

    If it worked when it was wet, it'll work when it's dry. :)

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 08:52

    If it worked when it was wet, it'll work when it's dry. :)

    It wasn't working 100% though, the lights on the buttons were on even when the phone was off, they didn't go off until I took the battery out :D

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 08:53

    It wasn't working 100% though, the lights on the buttons were on even when the phone was off, they didn't go off until I took the battery out :D

    Yeah, that's happened to me too a couple of times. It didn't stop the phone from working later.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 09:11

    Morning alll! Silly ashes making me get up!

    BBC have Panda news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/8138867.stm

    Looks more like a cat/dog hybrid to me

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:12

    Looks more like a cat/dog hybrid to me

    Bah, it's not a proper panda.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 09:15

    Bah, it's not a proper panda.

    I dint know pandas were also available in red..

    Someone must have fed them way too much red panda pop...

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:36

    Our next division meeting in the office tomorrow has an F1 theme. Goodness knows why. Something tells me I'll cringe at the way they'll do it...

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:38

    Our next division meeting in the office tomorrow has an F1 theme. Goodness knows why. Something tells me I'll cringe at the way they'll do it...

    How does a meeting have a theme?

  • Sean Golding08/07/2009 at 09:38

    Our next division meeting in the office tomorrow has an F1 theme. Goodness knows why. Something tells me I'll cringe at the way they'll do it...

    Let us know how it turns out.

  • me08/07/2009 at 09:39

    I had a dream a giant rat came out of my fridge. I didn't want to open it this morning. Am kinda hungry.

    not that watching ghostbusters affected you, or anything?

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:39

    How does a meeting have a theme?

    Hehe. They tie up the theme with the talks management will conduct, as well as in PowerPoint templates and the like.

  • me08/07/2009 at 09:40

    Kemblewatch - Morning all. Brawn have now gone and Williams are here today - looks like being a nicer day too.

    ace. do you know who's driving?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:40

    Hehe. They tie up the theme with the talks management will conduct, as well as in PowerPoint templates and the like.

    What other themes have you had? Have you done the '80s yet? That's always a popular choice for parties.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:41

    not that watching ghostbusters affected you, or anything?

    Why couldn't Stay Puft have come out of my fridge instead? That wouldn't be scary and I wouldn't be hungry after all that marshmallow!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:42

    What other themes have you had? Have you done the '80s yet? That's always a popular choice for parties.

    Our previous meeting was on a rooftop. We've also done in the past themes like "18th birthday debut", "outdoor cookout", and even the Oscars.

  • me08/07/2009 at 09:42

    Why couldn't Stay Puft have come out of my fridge instead? That wouldn't be scary and I wouldn't be hungry after all that marshmallow!

    who keeps marshmallow in the fridge?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:43

    Our previous meeting was on a rooftop. We've also done in the past themes like "18th birthday debut", "outdoor cookout", and even the Oscars.

    Do you get to dress up?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:43

    who keeps marshmallow in the fridge?

    Um, dunno. I don't tend to keep rats in my fridge either though.

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 09:45

    who keeps marshmallow in the fridge?

    Who throws a shoe?

  • me08/07/2009 at 09:45

    Who throws a shoe?

    :)

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 09:46

    here is a blog about the exhibition I'm gonna visit when I'm in NZ. Only a few of the more recent posts are interesting (ie have photos of cars) though :)

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:46

    Do you get to dress up?

    Yep, usually we do. We get prizes for best costume too...

  • me08/07/2009 at 09:47

    Yep, usually we do. We get prizes for best costume too...

    sounds like productive meeting.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:48

    Yep, usually we do. We get prizes for best costume too...

    Are you sure this isn't a party?

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:50

    sounds like a productive meeting.

    Are you sure this isn't a party?

    Nope - parties don't have long, boring talks in between. :( And we don't get party favors either. ;)

  • me08/07/2009 at 09:50

    Yep, usually we do. We get prizes for best costume too...

    and for this f1 meeting, you're going as... a mclaren?

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:52

    and for this f1 meeting, you're going as... a mclaren?

    :D Not in a million years!

    I'll probably wear my Ferrari stuff - but given that I use my F1 jacket at work everyday, I'm not sure that counts as a costume... ;)

  • me08/07/2009 at 09:53

    here is a blog about the exhibition I'm gonna visit when I'm in NZ. Only a few of the more recent posts are interesting (ie have photos of cars) though :)

    cool. when are you going?

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 09:55

    here is a blog about the exhibition I'm gonna visit when I'm in NZ. Only a few of the more recent posts are interesting (ie have photos of cars) though :)

    They have F1 cars in New Zeeland? How strange...

    I wonder if they got lost?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:55

    An F1 party sounds like a great idea. I would get a fake beard and go as Heidfeld. We could play Villeneuve's album as music, and drink Johnnie Walker whisky.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 09:55

    cool. when are you going?

    October 13, I fly into Wellington solely because that exhibition is there. My brother thinks its because he lives in Wellington and I'm paying him a visit, but nahhh.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:56

    October 13, I fly into Wellington solely because that exhibition is there. My brother thinks its because he lives in Wellington and I'm paying him a visit, but nahhh.

    :D

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 09:56

    An F1 party sounds like a great idea. I would get a fake beard and go as Heidfeld. We could play Villeneuve's album as music, and drink Johnnie Walker whisky.

    I'm so there :)

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 09:56

    I wonder if they got lost?

    Heheh well the main exhibition ones all came from England :D Theres lots of early McLarens in New Zealand though, for obvious reasons :D

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:56

    An F1 party sounds like a great idea. I would get a fake beard and go as Heidfeld. We could play Villeneuve's album as music, and drink Johnnie Walker whisky.

    Count me in! ;) Can Mr C come as Bibendum? :D

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:57

    Count me in! ;) Can Mr C come as Bibendum? :D

    Yes!!

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 09:57

    An F1 party sounds like a great idea. I would get a fake beard and go as Heidfeld. We could play Villeneuve's album as music, and drink Johnnie Walker whisky.

    Dont forget the Kingfisher beer! & various energy drinks for mixers

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 09:58

    Dont forget the Kingfisher beer! & various energy drinks for mixers

    I'd get on the Nescafe. Do they even sponsor McLaren anymore?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 09:58

    Dont forget the Kingfisher beer! & various energy drinks for mixers

    Ooh, excellent. Good plan.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 09:59

    I'd get on the Nescafe. Do they even sponsor McLaren anymore?

    I... think so?

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 09:59

    I'd get on the Nescafe. Do they even sponsor McLaren anymore?

    I think so, otherwise they wouldnt have any cups to drink out of in the drivers parade!

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 09:59

    Ooh, excellent. Good plan.

    Duracel batteries for the Wiimotes

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 10:00

    Duracel batteries for the Wiimotes

    Which we'll be playing on LG TVs. Or do you prefer Panasonics? ;)

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:00

    The Ashes is about to start...

    Bumble is on twitter... http://twitter.com/BumbleCricket

    I will try to contain my cricket excitement, but it may not be easy ;)

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 10:00

    I... think so?

    appears yes

    I think so, otherwise they wouldnt have any cups to drink out of in the drivers parade!

    ah yes, I forgot their branding is on those bottles. They're definitely not as prominent as they used to be, I remember seeing Kimi Nescafe ads on TV a bit in the past.

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:00

    Which we'll be playing on LG TVs. Or do you prefer Panasonics? ;)

    Panasonic for the win

  • F1Wolf08/07/2009 at 10:01

    Dont forget the Kingfisher beer! & various energy drinks for mixers

    will Martini girls be present ?

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:01

    will Martini girls be present ?

    They might be too much of a distraction...

  • F1Wolf08/07/2009 at 10:02

    They might be too much of a distraction...

    well better them then Zepter pans and pots :-)

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 10:03

    Count me in! ;) Can Mr C come as Bibendum? :D

    If someone else came as a Bridgestone tyre, they could have a fight. That would provide some entertainment!

  • me08/07/2009 at 10:04

    If someone else came as a Bridgestone tyre, they could have a fight. That would provide some entertainment!

    hey!

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:05

    hey!

    To be honest a party with somebody dressed as Bibendum already sounds pretty fun!

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 10:05

    hey!

    Oops. Sorry. I got carried away with the party thing.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:07

    Given F1's history would we all have to smoke copious amounts?

  • F1Wolf08/07/2009 at 10:07

    To be honest a party with somebody dressed as Bibendum already sounds pretty fun!

    I have friend who does not need to dress up like Bibendum, he looks like one and is proud of it :-)

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:08

    If someone else came as a Bridgestone tyre, they could have a fight. That would provide some entertainment!

    They'd only be able to go 4 rounds

    Hope during the fight nobody would get too tyred

    We'll know when they're finished when one gets flat (out)

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 10:08

    Given F1's history would we all have to smoke copious amounts?

    But F1 already quit the habit. ;)

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:08

    But F1 already quit the habit. ;)

    Somebody would have to be having a crafty Marlboro

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:08

    But F1 already quit the habit. ;)

    Not according to Marlboro's adverts they haven't!

  • me08/07/2009 at 10:09

    But F1 already quit the habit. ;)

    Somebody would have to be having a crafty Marlboro

    heeh!

  • F1Wolf08/07/2009 at 10:09

    We'll know when they're finished when one gets flat (out)

    before that there may be some flat spots though

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:09

    before that there may be some flat spots though

    I'm sure it will go wheely well

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:10

    Somebody would have to be having a crafty Marlboro

    :D

    Perhaps disguised as something innocent and subliminal...

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:10

    Perhaps disguised as something innocent and subliminal...

    Yeah... "Don't mind me I'm just smoking this pencil" ;)

  • F1Wolf08/07/2009 at 10:11

    Somebody would have to be having a crafty Marlboro

    always and option to borrow Rizzla from MotoGP party

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:12

    Yeah... "Don't mind me I'm just smoking this pencil" ;)

    If someone went as a BMW they could argue the smoke was just 'in character' ;)

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:12

    Bumble is on twitter... http://twitter.com/BumbleCricket

    And http://twitter.com/Aggerscricket

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:13

    And http://twitter.com/Aggerscricket

    Awesomeness! Redoubled :D

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:17

    I know that Cricket isn't widely followed here... not even by me... but I must say I am partial to a sport which is so sedate that the commentators are given cakes by the public during their commentary.

    http://twitter.com/Aggerscricket/status/2528992852

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:18

    Weirdly... And it's probably just me and fourstar who think this but I've been working on a theory that cricket and F1 are similar sports.

    In some ways they are team sports and some ways they are individual sports. When you are fielding you are all working together when you are batting you send two of your team out there to do their best.

  • me08/07/2009 at 10:19

    I know that Cricket isn't widely followed here... not even by me... but I must say I am partial to a sport which is so sedate that the commentators are given cakes by the public during their commentary.

    5livef1 tried the same, but then realised no-one could could get near the paddock.

    which sorta sums up f1.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 10:21

    I know that Cricket isn't widely followed here... not even by me... but I must say I am partial to a sport which is so sedate that the commentators are given cakes by the public during their commentary.

    I quite enjoy the Ashes, and I don't know why because I generally only watch cricket if the Black Caps are playing, and even then I barely watch it. The only ODI I have ever been to though was NZ vs England and it was fantastic. A good day out.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:23

    5livef1 tried the same, but then realised no-one could could get near the paddock.

    :lol: hehehe, thats brilliant!

    There must be some way of sending croftie sausages!

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:25

    I quite enjoy the Ashes, and I don't know why because I generally only watch cricket if the Black Caps are playing, and even then I barely watch it. The only ODI I have ever been to though was NZ vs England and it was fantastic. A good day out.

    So who are you supporting? (perhaps i should take this opportunity to point out that Finland is closer to England than Australia ;) )

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 10:25

    There must be some way of sending croftie sausages!

    http://www.sausagesdirect.com/

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 10:27

    So who are you supporting? (perhaps i should take this opportunity to point out that Finland is closer to England than Australia ;) )

    England! I really enjoyed 2005 :D :D

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:28

    http://www.sausagesdirect.com/

    Hehe, that's brilliant, perhaps we should have some sort of co-ordinated sausage strike at some point.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 10:35

    Sky are brilliant, i pay them lots of money for there skyplayer, then they decide to give it away free to all there satellite customers.

    Then... It breaks. :(

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 10:44

    Morning guys and gals

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 10:47

    http://www.sausagesdirect.com/

    I know this is a family safe site, but Zoe just did the funniest physical 'macho man point to crotch' type action while yelling out Sausages Direct!

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:02

    I know this is a family safe site, but Zoe just did the funniest physical 'macho man point to crotch' type action while yelling out Sausages Direct!

    I bet she's really happy you shared that with us as well.

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 11:15

    I bet she's really happy you shared that with us as well.

    Surprisingly yes :P

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 11:24

    Someone take my internet away from me, I'm wasting it

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:25

    Someone take my internet away from me, I'm wasting it

    Do I have to shoo you as well?

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 11:26

    Do I have to shoo you as well?

    quite possibly. I'm youtubing boy bands I don't even like.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:26

    quite possibly. I'm youtubing boy bands I don't even like.

    Stop it! There's only one boy band you should be YouTubing.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 11:28

    Stop it! There's only one boy band you should be YouTubing.

    I don't need to youtube their videos, I have the DVD :D

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:29

    I don't need to youtube their videos, I have the DVD :D

    Well that will save on the internets!

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 11:30

    Well that will save on the internets!

    I may need to resort to DVDs, I think Michael Jackson is on every channel on TV. Enough already.

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 11:34

    who keeps marshmallow in the fridge?

    with ice cream and orange m&ms?

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 11:37

    I may need to resort to DVDs, I think Michael Jackson is on every channel on TV. Enough already.

    Had a woman cry on me at work today. I helped her find the MJ CDs and DVDs. He's with god now apparently.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 11:38

    Had a woman cry on me at work today. I helped her find the MJ CDs and DVDs. He's with god now apparently.

    You should have pretended you had no idea who he was...

    ...Was he in Nsync? tends to really rile some people

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 11:42

    today at work I dropped my phone into a sink.

    I had pretty bad mobile doohickey withdrawals.

    Insurance?

    iPhone or Android as a replacement?

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 11:42

    Oh my god! Google are making an OS!

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 11:43

    Hi all

    Hope all's good, what's new in the Sidepodcast world?

    Who do you want to win on Sunday?

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 11:43

    Oh my god! Google are making an OS!

    For a big phone?

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 11:43

    Who do you want to win on Sunday?

    Lewis! Clearly the message hasn't got through to everyone....

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:44

    Lewis! Clearly the message hasn't got through to everyone....

    Better say it again, just to make sure.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 11:44

    For a big phone?

    Apparently it will be Linux based and for netbooks. Interesting.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:45

    Who do you want to win on Sunday?

    It would be good to see someone new. Maybe Webbo?

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 11:45

    It would be good to see someone new. Maybe Webbo?

    Bourdais to win!

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 11:46

    Oh my god! Google are making an OS!

    I think its just a cloud browser, it will be interesting, im not sure id like all my stuff in the bowels of some corporation

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:46

    Bourdais to win!

    I would put money on Tater Head getting a win before Le Seb.

  • me08/07/2009 at 11:46

    Oh my god! Google are making an OS!

    next year, or maybe the year after.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 11:47

    It would be good to see someone new. Maybe Webbo?

    Im not sure you meant it like this, but i read web-boo

    and it made me chuckle

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:47

    next year, or maybe the year after.

    Is it not just so they can have something in Beta?

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 11:48

    next year, or maybe the year after.

    Chrome OS is a rubbish name. Google Doors, or Google Curtains, just to poke fun at Windows.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 11:49

    Who do you want to win on Sunday?

    Betcha can't guess. BETCHA.

  • me08/07/2009 at 11:50

    Is it not just so they can have something in Beta?

    hehe. no.

    it's a pointless marketing announcement designed to grab headlines and rile microsoft. android already runs on the same devices they're talking about.

    essentially they've just announced that they're thinking about where to take android next, whilst getting a bit of good PR value out of chrome (the browser that still doesn't run on a mac/linux).

  • me08/07/2009 at 11:50

    Chrome OS is a rubbish name. Google Doors, or Google Curtains, just to poke fun at Windows.

    :)

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 11:51

    essentially they've just announced that they're thinking about where to take android next, whilst getting a bit of good PR value out of chrome (the browser that still doesn't run on a mac/linux).

    I'm angry at Chrome for not working properly with doohickey [new] ness. It hadn't told me there were 10+ new comments since I last looked!

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 11:52

    essentially they've just announced that they're thinking about where to take android next, whilst getting a bit of good PR value out of chrome (the browser that still doesn't run on a mac/linux).

    So it isnt just a beefed up version of chrome to access cloud computing?

  • me08/07/2009 at 11:52

    I'm angry at Chrome for not working properly with doohickey [new] ness. It hadn't told me there were 10+ new comments since I last looked!

    they have broken it, and i'm not sure why :(

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 11:52

    I'm angry at Chrome for not working properly with doohickey [new] ness. It hadn't told me there were 10+ new comments since I last looked!

    Yes, that is very annoying!

    Silly google, it worked before

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 11:53

    It would be good to see someone new. Maybe Webbo?

    I'd pick lewis first (being a macca fan naturally) but i'd really love to Heidfeld do it (fat chance that'll happen)

    Realistically - I wanna see Webber or Kimi win this week

    I just found myself on F1 Racing's wallpaper from the British GP....

    It's the pic with Lewis passing Alonso, if you look directly above Lewis's front right wheel and above the A in (Abbey) i'm the idiot stood arms aloft with a white flag behind me

    http://www.f1racing.co.uk/parade_20090701

    The gf is next to me but she's just a tiny dot!

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 11:54

    Better say it again, just to make sure.

    I might save it for the weekend posts?

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 11:55

    It would be good to see someone new. Maybe Webbo?

    Cant argue with this. Probably more realistic...

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 11:55

    My F1 Racing arrived today and I flicked through it and only read one article in full. I've never done that before. I'm so ho-hum towards it at the moment that I don't recognise myself

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 11:56

    My F1 Racing arrived today and I flicked through it and only read one article in full. I've never done that before. I'm so ho-hum towards it at the moment that I don't recognise myself

    The July issue? It was not a good one.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 11:56

    My F1 Racing arrived today and I flicked through it and only read one article in full. I've never done that before. I'm so ho-hum towards it at the moment that I don't recognise myself

    But why? Is it F1R's fault?

  • me08/07/2009 at 11:57

    So it isnt just a beefed up version of chrome to access cloud computing?

    not as i understand it no. seems more likely to be a beefed up version of android. it'll likely supported touch screen and 3g connections etc. a phone OS on your netbook.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 11:57

    Cant argue with this. Probably more realistic...

    A Webber win would be good for Button if he can't win it himself. It makes RBR's dilemma on how to approach the championship more acute.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 11:57

    But why? Is it F1R's fault?

    I don't think it helped that the first full article was on politics. Put me right off. Then more Jenson that said nothing new that I haven't read in every other F1 Racing since he started winning

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 11:57

    Better say it again, just to make sure.

    Lewis wasn't it??

    Gotta say the BBC lie, at Silverstone on raceday there was clearly more support for Lewis then Jenson.... Although a massive increase in Brawn fans as opposed to last years Honda fans

    Us British fickle and fairweather? Never!!!!!!!!!!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 11:58

    http://www.f1racing.co.uk/parade_20090701

    There's a Heikki pic there too, but it's the 'Sorry Amy' type...

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 11:58

    Oh that reminds me, I had a big debate after wimbledon with someone...

    Isnt tennis just longer and more predictible than F1?

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:00

    Isn't tennis just longer and more predictable than F1?

    Yes, it's longer, but not necessarily more predictable. Who'd have thought that Federer would need 5 sets to beat Andy Roddick, of all people? Or that Nadal would be sent out of RG by Robin Soderling?

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 12:00

    The July issue? It was not a good one.

    There's nothing of content for the daily news fix F1 fan, if you live in the Mongolian Desert then you may find some of the news recent..........

    We're all up to the minute with our news so in fairness to Autosport and F1 racing etc they're irrelevant before they're printed to us.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:01

    One thing I must congratulate F1 Racing Australia on, their cover is a little more well rounded than the British one in that it has more than one subject and doesn't scream JENSON twice

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/july-covers-jpg

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:01

    Yes, it's longer, but not necessarily more predictable. Who'd have thought that Federer would need 5 sets to beat Andy Roddick, of all people? Or that Nadal would be sent out of RG by Robin Soderling?

    Plus in a slam there is 7 rounds and theres always an upset

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 12:02

    There’s a Heikki pic there too, but it’s the ‘Sorry Amy’ type…

    I cheered for Heikki last year when he got pole, should've seen the evils I got from the other Macca fans.....

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:02

    We're all up to the minute with our news so in fairness to Autosport and F1 racing etc they're irrelevant before they're printed to us.

    even with knowing all the news, I normally still really enjoy their feature articles. This time it all felt like every single one of them was rehashed from a recent edition

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:02

    Yes, it's longer, but not necessarily more predictable. Who'd have thought that Federer would need 5 sets to beat Andy Roddick, of all people? Or that Nadal would be sent out of RG by Robin Soderling?

    Before the tournement began i could have told you it would be won by Federer and a williams sister.

    RG would be won by Nadal or Fedder

    Id say 90% of the matches at Wimbledon i watched I could tell who was going to win, and i was right 90% of the time

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:04

    Id say 90% of the matches at Wimbledon i watched I could tell who was going to win, and i was right 90% of the time

    If you talked to RG, he'd have you belive the winner of Wimbledon was a huge shock ;)

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:04

    Before the tournement began i could have told you it would be won by Federer and a williams sister.

    I guess so, yes, but would it be a crushing win or an absolute marathon? Just because you could guess the winner doesn't mean you can guess how they'd win, right?

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:04

    even with knowing all the news, I normally still really enjoy their feature articles. This time it all felt like every single one of them was rehashed from a recent edition

    - page 1... james allen kindly requests a plug for his blog.

    - shuts issue never to return again.

    f1r is sadly suffering from the same problem as everyone else. there's is no f1 news, because everything is on hold and fia in their infinite wisdom banned testing.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:06

    I guess so, yes, but would it be a crushing win or an absolute marathon? Just because you could guess the winner doesn't mean you can guess how they'd win, right?

    Yeah, but thats a bit like saying, i know Schumacher is going to win, i just don't know which laps he will have pit stops on...

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:06

    f1r is sadly suffering from the same problem as everyone else. there's is no f1 news, because everything is on hold and fia in their infinite wisdom banned testing.

    Even if there were F1 news, I think they'd still be struggling, simply because most outlets provide news and analysis instantaneously.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:07

    Even if there were F1 news, I think they'd still be struggling, simply because most outlets provide news and analysis instantaneously.

    It bugs me that there is a 'down but not out' Felipe article. I'd swear they've already done that at least once this year.

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:07

    Even if there were F1 news, I think they'd still be struggling, simply because most outlets provide news and analysis instantaneously.

    nothing has changed on that front between last month and this month, yet i read last month's issue.

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:08

    It bugs me that there is a 'down but not out' Felipe article. I'd swear they've already done that at least once this year.

    understood. but there isn't anything to talk about.

    the racing is predicable. the rules haven't worked. what happened in the past 4 weeks that could fill an issues of that size?

    you'd struggle to fill a postcard right now.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:09

    Yeah, but thats a bit like saying, i know Schumacher is going to win, i just don't know which laps he will have pit stops on...

    You could say that about the winner of a tournament, maybe, but would anyone have any idea that Roddick, Hewitt, and Haas would have great runs? Or that del Potro would crash out early?

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:09

    you'd struggle to fill a postcard right now.

    the August issue will be even worse, with a 3 week break between races theres even less to talk about than there was in the July one.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:09

    nothing has changed on that front between last month and this month, yet i read last month's issue.

    F1 Racing always have good issues for the British GP, no matter what's going on.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:10

    You could say that about the winner of a tournament, maybe, but would anyone have any idea that Roddick, Hewitt, and Haas would have great runs? Or that del Potro would crash out early?

    You couldn't have paid me $1,000,000 to believe the 2008 Australian Open final would be Djokovic v Tsonga

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 12:10

    even with knowing all the news, I normally still really enjoy their feature articles. This time it all felt like every single one of them was rehashed from a recent edition

    I'm the same, I love all the behind the scenes stuff.

    I wasn't very well yesterday so spent the day cooped up watching the 1996 and 1997 reviews. Kay came in and said the camera work was shockingly bad (it was)...got me thinking i'd like to see how they co-ordinate all the camera's etc

    On a seperate note, anybody go to the Renault World Series? I was going to ring up but like an idiot i forgot to take the phone number and once there I thought what can I tell you that you can't see on TV?

    Saw Nigel Mansell drive past in a Renault 3.5 etc...took some none motorsport fans up and they really couldn't see the deal with watching it at a track.

    Who's Adam Kahn - Renault demonstration driver, i'm usually quite clued up on my drivers but never heard of him.

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:10

    you'd struggle to fill a postcard right now.

    the August issue will be even worse, with a 3 week break between races theres even less to talk about than there was in the July one.

    agreed.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:12

    Even if there were F1 news, I think they'd still be struggling, simply because most outlets provide news and analysis instantaneously.

    Yes the magazine industry is dying, its mostly because a lot of the senior editors cant see that they need to adapt their product.

    You either have it Immediate and online like GP+ or you need to innovate and look at things completly differently.

    Putting James Allen in there shows how silly things are, why would you pay for the magazine when you can read his blog daily and for free?

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:12

    Who's Adam Kahn - Renault demonstration driver, i'm usually quite clued up on my drivers but never heard of him.

    been straightline testing for them this year.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:13

    You couldn't have paid me $1,000,000 to believe the 2008 Australian Open final would be Djokovic v Tsonga

    Soooo true. :D

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:13

    Putting James Allen in there shows how silly things are, why would you pay for the magazine when you can read his blog daily and for free?

    fair point.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:13

    Soooo true. :D

    You should see my "Federer Fund" money box I made during Arts and Crafts Tuesday at work. :D

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 12:14

    http://www.pitflaps.co.uk/index.html

    Some light hearted F1 humour

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:14

    You should see my "Federer Fund" money box I made during Arts and Crafts Tuesday at work. :D

    during what??

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:15

    Who's Adam Kahn - Renault demonstration driver, i'm usually quite clued up on my drivers but never heard of him.

    Drove for A1 Team Pakistan, if I recall.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:15

    You could say that about the winner of a tournament, maybe, but would anyone have any idea that Roddick, Hewitt, and Haas would have great runs? Or that del Potro would crash out early?

    Well Hewitt i could have picked, but there was so much going on at once, no one told me about Roddick and Haas untill the semis.

    I think people complain F1 is boring too much, there are plenty of other sports which are far worse!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:15

    during what??

    Looks like someone's beaten my F1-themed division meeting. :D

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:16

    during what??

    at my old job the boys decided that Tuesdays should be arts and crafts day, so they'd make ridiculous things out of materials found around the place which was mostly cardboard boxes, cable ties and paper. I am trying to make the trend take off at my new job because I was oh-so-bored yesterday. :D

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 12:17

    at my old job the boys decided that Tuesdays should be arts and crafts day, so they'd make ridiculous things out of materials found around the place which was mostly cardboard boxes, cable ties and paper. I am trying to make the trend take off at my new job because I was oh-so-bored yesterday. :D

    Surely this requires a photo?

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 12:17

    Surely this requires a photo?

    Camera is charging, but when its done, sure :D

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:23

    My latest F1F guest post is up, and it's about Quick Nick! :D

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 12:25

    My latest F1F guest post is up, and it’s about Quick Nick!

    Better be kind to my boy Heidfeld!!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:25

    Better be kind to my boy Heidfeld!!

    I was definitely fair - not sure if I was kind enough, though. Go and take a look. ;)

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 12:29

    I was definitely fair – not sure if I was kind enough, though. Go and take a look.

    No comment!

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:29

    My latest F1F guest post is up, and it's about Quick Nick! :D

    Me? You are too kind ;)

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:31

    Me? You are too kind ;)

    ah.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:31

    No comment!

    Uh-oh...

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:31

    Me? You are too kind ;)

    :D ah, indeed.

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 12:35

    Uh-oh…

    You weren't very nice about him really were you, kudos to you though for getting an article published on F1fantatic

    You better pray Nick don't know where you live!!

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:35

    hehe. just found this add-on for gmail:

    Back to Beta

    Soothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Google Mail logo.

    ;)

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 12:36

    Back to Beta

    Soothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Google Mail logo.

    Phew!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:36

    You weren't very nice about him really were you, kudos to you though for getting an article published on F1fantatic

    I was being fair! Part 2 is nicer, I promise. It comes out tomorrow. :D

    I'm a regular guest writer on F1F - I've been doing driver features prior to each race weekend since China. :)

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:36

    Back to Beta

    Soothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Google Mail logo.

    Nice to see they have a sense of humor. :D

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:37

    Back to Beta
    Soothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Google Mail logo.

    Phew!

    have enabled. the world has righted after it's minor wobble.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:37

    have enabled. the world has righted after it's minor wobble.

    You actually enabled it? Seriously? Dang.

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:38

    You actually enabled it? Seriously? Dang.

    twas just a click.

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:38

    i like these add-ons. something we should maybe think about for doohickey:

    Addict

    Lets you take a break from email and chat by blocking the screen for fifteen minutes and making you invisible in chat.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:38

    twas just a click.

    I know, but even so. ;)

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 12:40

    have enabled. the world has righted after it's minor wobble.

    Me too :)

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:40

    I never realises Heidfelfd was so good.

    What a shame Mclaren did'nt hire him and spare us all these years of putting up with Kimi

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:41

    Me too :)

    ;)

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:42

    Is there any way to forward hotmail to gmail, i have tried before and found it insanely complicated.

    I would love to change i really would.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:43

    What a shame Mclaren did'nt hire him and spare us all these years of putting up with Kimi

    In the words of Mika Hakkinen to Ron Dennis (allegedly): "If you want to win, get a Finn." ;)

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 12:43

    Is there any way to forward hotmail to gmail, i have tried before and found it insanely complicated.

    There should be. Question is, is it free?

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:44

    Is there any way to forward hotmail to gmail, i have tried before and found it insanely complicated.

    does hotmail support imap/pop3? if so, then yes.

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:45

    does hotmail support imap/pop3? if so, then yes.

    actually, yeah it looks like it does and it's free.

  • guille230608/07/2009 at 12:45

    There should be. Question is, is it free?

    you can only forward to hotmail/live address, last time I checked...

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:47

    you can only forward to hotmail/live address, last time I checked...

    hmmm. i don't have a hotmail account, but it looks trivial to send / receive from gmail.

  • guille230608/07/2009 at 12:47

    just passed by to say hi. going to work now. bye

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:49

    hmmm. i don't have a hotmail account, but it looks trivial to send / receive from gmail.

    I just want to have my hotmail addresses forward to my gmail inbox.

    Either that or work out a way for chrome to keep me logged in to hotmail.

    Technology sux

  • guille230608/07/2009 at 12:49

    hmmm. i don't have a hotmail account, but it looks trivial to send / receive from gmail.

    send is easy, as gmail only need to check that you own the address. receiving was always the difficult part. I'll try from work

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:50

    I just want to have my hotmail addresses forward to my gmail inbox.

    if you already have a gmail account, just try it. it's a 10 second job.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:53

    You can forward your mail to one other e-mail address that ends in hotmail.com, msn.com, live.com, or is part of Windows Live Custom Domains.

    Rubbish!

  • me08/07/2009 at 12:57

    Rubbish!

    eh? are you doing this right.

    go into gmail and pull from there?

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 12:59

    go into gmail and pull from there?

    In "POP/IMAP Options" ?

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:00

    go into gmail and pull from there?

    but you'd have to successfully make hotmail's pop work with gmail. is that possible?

  • me08/07/2009 at 13:00

    but you'd have to successfully make hotmail's pop work with gmail. is that possible?

    YES!!

  • me08/07/2009 at 13:01

    In "POP/IMAP Options" ?

    no. go to:

    Settings > Accounts and Import > Add POP3 mail account

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:01

    In "POP/IMAP Options" ?

    I found it

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:05

    It works, the revolution is here

  • me08/07/2009 at 13:06

    It works, the revolution is here

    yay :)

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:06

    It works, the revolution is here

    Indeed it does.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 13:06

    It works, the revolution is here

    Don't forget to check the Back to Beta box :)

  • James08/07/2009 at 13:06

    I avoid gmail because someone else already has the address I want :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 13:08

    It works, the revolution is here

    Indeed it does.

    Yay it does! Now, how to use Gmail???

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 13:10

    Don't forget to check the Back to Beta box :)

    Where can I find that and why would I do that?

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:10

    Indeed it does.

    That said, that's odd. Why would Hotmail restrict forwarding when anyone can access it anyway via POP?

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:11

    That said, that's odd. Why would Hotmail restrict forwarding when anyone can access it anyway via POP?

    Becuase of simpletons like me

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 13:11

    That said, that's odd. Why would Hotmail restrict forwarding when anyone can access it anyway via POP?

    Because forwarding puts the onus on them?

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:12

    Don't forget to check the Back to Beta box :)

    Where would i find that?

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:12

    Because forwarding puts the onus on them?

    Hmmm. I guess so. Still, I do find it pretty odd.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 13:12

    Where can I find that and why would I do that?

    It's in the labs section, but I imagine if you don't know why you'd want to, there's little point in doing it.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:13

    Becuase of simpletons like me

    Don't worry - I had the same problem a long time ago. That's why I abandoned Hotmail altogether - I just keep it as a spare address now.

  • me08/07/2009 at 13:14

    That said, that's odd. Why would Hotmail restrict forwarding when anyone can access it anyway via POP?

    to make it look like it can't be done.

    the is microsoft, this is how they go about business.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:15

    the is microsoft, this is how they go about business.

    but that's why i switched to gmail in the first place. had they not done that, hotmail would probably still be my primary. oh well.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:16

    Forgotten attachment detector looks amazing!

  • Lukeh (Mighty Pirate)08/07/2009 at 13:25

    Oooh, Gmail Labs looks to have a few nice little things actually..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 13:27

    Oooh, Gmail Labs looks to have a few nice little things actually..

    It's still downloading all my mails from other accounts!

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:29

    Oooh, Gmail Labs looks to have a few nice little things actually..

    Its a whole new world...

    Hows Guybrush?

  • Lukeh (Mighty Pirate)08/07/2009 at 13:30

    Hows Guybrush?

    He's being as awesome as ever. I can't believe how good the new Monkey Island is, wasn't expecting too much but it is ridiculously funny and just as good as the old games. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 13:31

    What's your Brazil Name?

    Mine is Gavildo but my wife's one is much cooler: Larsinho!

  • Lukeh (Mighty Pirate)08/07/2009 at 13:32

    Mine is Gavildo but my wife's one is much cooler: Larsinho!

    Lukao Santos!

    Needs more Rubens.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:34

    Mine is Gavildo but my wife's one is much cooler: Larsinho!

    Ocampinhosa. Right, then...

  • me08/07/2009 at 13:35

    Ocampinhosa. Right, then...

    sidepodcio

  • Lukeh (Mighty Pirate)08/07/2009 at 13:35

    Barrichellinho? How confusing

  • me08/07/2009 at 13:36

    sidepodcio

    actually...

    sidepodcidas

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 13:36

    Barrichellinho? How confusing

    Jenson's is Buttson!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:36

    Barrichellinho? How confusing

    Try Ayrton Senna. It returns Senna. The Senna name speaks for itself. Brilliant. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 13:38

    sidepodcio

    actually...

    sidepodcidas

    Mr. C returns Ito :)

  • me08/07/2009 at 13:39

    Mr. C returns Ito :)

    am liking:

    Sidão

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 13:44

    Backstory:

    I always have ridiculous amounts of $1 and $2 coins in my wallet and tend to waste them in the vending machine at work, so why not save them for my stupidly expensive Australian Open ticket?

    Ingredients:

    1x Pringles can, glue, blu-tak, printed photos of tennis, sellotape, scissors, coins.

    Method:

    cut out pictures,

    blu-tak them in position on can, leave a gap that no photo will fill for added style.

    wrap sellotape badly around can to seal,

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dsc06910-jpg

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dsc06911-jpg

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dsc06912-jpg

    cut a coin-shaped hole in lid, glue lid to can to fight lack of willpower,

    fill with money.

    PROFIT

    Total contents: $8

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:44

    Massa's is Massiano!

    Brawn just said something big is happening on there website...

    New sponsor?

    New Colour?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 13:45

    Total contents: $8

    I thought you had glued the lid?

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:46

    Backstory:

    I always have ridiculous amounts of $1 and $2 coins in my wallet and tend to waste them in the vending machine at work, so why not save them for my stupidly expensive Australian Open ticket?

    I need to do this, at the moment i just save 1 and 2p coins, and walk around like i am playing christmas carols!

  • Lukeh (Mighty Pirate)08/07/2009 at 13:46

    *watches the classic German Grand prixs on the red button* :D

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 13:46

    I thought you had glued the lid?

    That is a step in the process, but we had no glue at work so that step is technically not done yet :D

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:50

    Brawn just said something big is happening on there website...

    New sponsor?

    New Colour?

    I don't see anything new...

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 13:51

    I don't see anything new...

    I might hypothesise that it hasnt happened yet? ;)

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 13:52

    I might hypothesise that it hasnt happened yet? ;)

    but they said happenING... present progressive tense... ;)

  • Lukeh (Mighty Pirate)08/07/2009 at 14:05

    I don't see anything new...

    their twitter said coming soon, so I assumed in the next few days

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 14:12

    Jakey has been up to allsorts, his new blog is up!

    I like this bit...

    Question 1. Do EJ and DC actually like each other?

    The answer is a resounding yes. They don't just like each other, they've got great respect for each other's achievements in the sport. I believe as TV pundits they have actually raised the bar. I can think of numerous sports programmes where the pundits wouldn't even challenge the viewer let alone each other. I love that there is a bit of spark between the guys. Lots of people ask me if I find it hard having to mediate between them.

    The only hard thing is that their little bit of needle makes really compelling viewing and I end up being a viewer just like you. Sometimes I have to stop watching them and remind myself we're live in front of five million people and perhaps I should stop the bickering!

    hehe :)

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 14:12

    Afternoon.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 14:13

    The only hard thing is that their little bit of needle makes really compelling viewing and I end up being a viewer just like you. Sometimes I have to stop watching them and remind myself we're live in front of five million people and perhaps I should stop the bickering!

    He must be confusing the word compelling for uncomfortable.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 14:13

    Barrichello's first victory is now on the red button :D:D:D

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 14:15

    Jakey has been up to allsorts, his new blog is up!

    He was at Wimbledon too? JEALOUS.

  • Amy08/07/2009 at 14:16

    Barrichello's first victory is now on the red button :D:D:D

    His tears on the podium make me well up. I can't help but cry when sports people cry happy tears. Oddly I don't well up when they cry sad tears.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 14:16

    The only hard thing is that their little bit of needle makes really compelling viewing and I end up being a viewer just like you. Sometimes I have to stop watching them and remind myself we're live in front of five million people and perhaps I should stop the bickering!

    He must be confusing the word compelling for uncomfortable.

    I'm inclined to agree with Jake - it's not as if they dislike each other, it's more that they completely disagree with what the other one says...

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 14:17

    I'm inclined to agree with Jake - it's not as if they dislike each other, it's more that they completely disagree with what the other one says...

    If they had a proper argument, that'd be fine. The bickering and ridiculous sniping I can live without.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 14:18

    His tears on the podium make me well up. I can't help but cry when sports people cry happy tears. Oddly I don't well up when they cry sad tears.

    Was lovely to see him like that so happy by it all, as wierd as that sounds. Pure emotion! :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 14:18

    If they had a proper argument, that'd be fine. The bickering and ridiculous sniping I can live without.

    indeed. It's certainly not the BBC way of doing things!

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 14:25

    I forgot Nelson piquet Jr was leading the German GP for a while last year... scary times.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 14:27

    Loving Jake's story on Take That at Wembley. :D

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 14:29

    Loving Jake's story on Take That at Wembley. :D

    The show was actually very impressive and I found some light relief when I spotted a Brawn cap (how predictable!) in the crowd and went over to discuss aero, Red Bull's new front nose and who is taller, me or Ross Brawn! I didn't know the answer - Ross, I suspect.

    Lou, Lukeh, how would you feel if Jake Humphrey suddenly approached you at a concert? He's like finding a familiar item in a sea of unfamiliarity...

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 14:31

    Lou, Lukeh, how would you feel if Jake Humphrey suddenly approached you at a concert? He's like finding a familiar item in a sea of unfamiliarity...

    I'd love to talk to Jakey, he seems like a really nice guy. Although it'd be a little surreal being at a concert and then him saying hello and talking F1 to you because of your cap! :P

    I wonder if he'd ask why my cap was a Rubens cap? Considering the amount of people who seemed to think I was deaf over the Goodwood weekend pointing it out when standing behind me...

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 14:37

    I'd love to talk to Jakey, he seems like a really nice guy. Although it'd be a little surreal being at a concert and then him saying hello and talking F1 to you because of your cap! :P

    I know - I'd be startled! Hehe. :D

    Lots of Jenson in the entertainment pages, though. I didn't know he was interviewed in GQ...

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 14:41

    I wonder if he'd ask why my cap was a Rubens cap? Considering the amount of people who seemed to think I was deaf over the Goodwood weekend pointing it out when standing behind me...

    Is it the duracell one?

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 14:52

    Is it the duracell one?

    No, the normal Brawn one, obviously with Rubens on the back and his helmet/number on the side.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 14:54

    Cricket F1 Collisions should happen more often...

    Oh look they do! http://en.redbulletin.com/articles/england_v_australia_part_one/

  • James08/07/2009 at 14:56

    Cricket F1 Collisions should happen more often...

    Cricket vs F1 at a game of table football :D

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 14:57

    Hmmm... to attend, or not to attend tonight's quiz? Hmmm...

  • RG - The Fisi of Sidepodcast08/07/2009 at 14:57

    Cricket vs F1 at a game of table football :D

    I love it.

    Hey everybody.

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 14:58

    Hey everybody.

    Good evening...

  • RG - The Fisi of Sidepodcast08/07/2009 at 14:58

    Hmmm... to attend, or not to attend tonight's quiz? Hmmm...

    Oh yeah, won't be quizzing it tonight. Got things to take care of...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 15:01

    Should I be worried that Gmail thinks that mail from my parents is marked as spam?

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 15:01

    Should I be worried that Gmail thinks that mail from my parents is marked as spam?

    Gmail gets better and better!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 15:03

    Should I be worried that Gmail thinks that mail from my parents is marked as spam?

    Gmail gets better and better!

    :D

  • Nick08/07/2009 at 15:05

    :D

    Now if google could buy skype...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 16:30

    Hey Mr. C, I'm having Nachos for dinner :D

  • karen08/07/2009 at 16:33

    hi everyone

    not sure if this has been mentioned already.....FOTA walking out.....again...

    I guess theres a race on again this weekend ?

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76777

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 16:35

    hi everyone

    not sure if this has been mentioned already.....FOTA walking out.....again...

    I guess theres a race on again this weekend ?

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76777

    You know when F1 is returning after a break because there's stupid news to have to put up with :(

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 16:39

    You know when F1 is returning after a break because there's stupid news to have to put up with :(

    Goodness me. That's just great.

    So now what?

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 16:40

    So now what?

    I'm guessing Max will use this to say 'How can I leave a sport when the teams aren'tresponsible enough to talk to us?' or something, try and get it over his side a bit. Although I wanna know what FOTA's problem was.

  • karen08/07/2009 at 16:40

    Hmmm... to attend, or not to attend tonight's quiz? Hmmm...

    Oh yeah, won't be quizzing it tonight. Got things to take care of...

    me too .....like watching Torchwood tonight....lol

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 16:43

    So now what?

    Joe has an idea:

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/

  • RCC08/07/2009 at 16:47

    hi everyone

    not sure if this has been mentioned already…..FOTA walking out…..again…

    I guess theres a race on again this weekend ?

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76777

    Although i'm sick of the saga i kinda don't blame FOTA

    I was boring someone last week saying I bet this isn't over and the 3 new teams + the two fairweather teams (Williams and F.I are deserters lol) will defo wanna say in the regulations.

    For me I understand these 3 teams need some stability etc but to have a vote and say on a championship they've never even been in yet is out of order. If they could only compete on the minimum budget of £40mill I doubt they'd last long.....

    Why on earth was Prodrive turned down?? This is all political rubbish again.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper08/07/2009 at 16:48

    Checked in, window seats

    23hr 45mins to go

    Woo hoo

  • karen08/07/2009 at 16:51

    Checked in, window seats

    23hr 45mins to go

    Woo hoo

    ooo where you off to BC ????

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 17:00

    Day 1 of boat build finished...

    It looks AMAZING

    pictures to follow

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 17:03

    It looks AMAZING

    Woohoo!

  • karen08/07/2009 at 17:08

    FOTA reply....http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38357

    FOTA teams told they are not entered in 2010 and therefore have no voting rights etc.....

    omg

  • karen08/07/2009 at 17:11

    http://www.teamsassociation.org/press-release/2009-07-08/press-release

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:11

    FOTA teams told they are not entered in 2010 and therefore have no voting rights etc.....

    how the heck does that make sense?? either all 13 are entered, or all 13 are not entered.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 17:12

    FOTA teams told they are not entered in 2010 and therefore have no voting rights etc.....

    Oh for god sake.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper08/07/2009 at 17:15

    ooo where you off to BC ????

    Montreal for the weekend :)

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:16

    http://www.teamsassociation.org/press-release/2009-07-08/press-release

    At last someone has pulled the FIA up for not following their own rules or saying one thing then doing the opposite. If nothing else this nonsense shows that the much vaunted agreement was built on sand. I will never understand how FOTA capitulated based on a verbal agreement with Max and Bernie when written agreements mean nothing to them.

    #Ari in

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper08/07/2009 at 17:18

    #Ari in

    Are we hash tagging comments now? :lol:

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 17:19

    What the hell is going on now!

    FOTA teams are not entered into the 2010 season now?

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 17:19

    FOTA teams are not entered into the 2010 season now?

    They never were

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:19

    Are we hash tagging comments now? :lol:

    With a comments filter, perhaps we should be. ;)

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:19

    They never were

    But aren't they on the entry list along with all the other teams?

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 17:19

    So F1 2010 currently looks like

    Williams

    Force India

    Campos

    Manor

    USF1.

    Williams World Champions then?

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:20

    Are we hash tagging comments now? :lol:

    Mr C objects to maxout tags so I thought I would try something different. Sneaky huh?

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 17:20

    They never were

    They are on the official WMSC approved entry list.

  • me08/07/2009 at 17:20

    Williams World Champions then?

    with what engine??

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 17:20

    But aren't they on the entry list along with all the other teams?

    Yeah but with *'s next to their name

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:20

    Mr C objects to maxout tags so I thought I would try something different. Sneaky huh?

    :D

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:20

    They never were

    They were on the official list. Read their press release

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper08/07/2009 at 17:20

    So F1 2010 currently looks like

    It looks like we won't know for sure until around March :(

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:21

    It looks like we won't know for sure until around March :(

    Poor Fernando Alonso - he doesn't even know what he'll be racing in... ;)

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 17:21

    with what engine??

    If they're in the 2010 entry list - sounds like it will have to be Cosworth.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:22

    Poor Fernando Alonso - he doesn't even know what he'll be racing in... ;)

    He will be racing a Renault unless he takes the Toyota offer

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:23

    He will be racing a Renault unless he takes the Toyota offer

    Toyota?! It's Ferrari or Renault for Alonso, I think.

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 17:24

    with what engine??

    If they're in the 2010 entry list - sounds like it will have to be Cosworth.

    Also, looking at the reports of the new teams essentially being told that No Cosworth engines, no 2010 entry.

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 17:27

    But aren't they on the entry list along with all the other teams?

    Only provisionally - they entered with conditions.

  • karen08/07/2009 at 17:28

    ooo where you off to BC ????

    Montreal for the weekend

    oh lovely...sounds great !

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 17:28

    btw hi. stupid BT

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:28

    Toyota?! It's Ferrari or Renault for Alonso, I think.

    According to Autosport a few weeks ago Toyota are desperate to sign him but he is holding out for an offer from Ferrari. Ferrari will stick with their current drivers as they did last year.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:28

    Only provisionally - they entered with conditions.

    So why allow them to draft rules they can't vote on?

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 17:29

    So why allow them to draft rules they can't vote on?

    It's the FIA way!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:29

    According to Autosport a few weeks ago Toyota are desperate to sign him but he is holding out for an offer from Ferrari. Ferrari will stick with their current drivers as they did last year.

    The summer of 1995 tells me they'll bet the farm on Alonso.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper08/07/2009 at 17:29

    btw hi. stupid BT

    Broadband issues?

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:29

    The summer of 1995 tells me they'll bet the farm on Alonso.

    Ferrari, that is.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:30

    Only provisionally - they entered with conditions.

    After the meeting with Max, Bernie and Luca the WMSC announced the list of teams that were entered and the 8 FOTA teams were on the list. Regardless of what actually happened accoring to the official FIA channel their entries were made and accepted.

  • me08/07/2009 at 17:30

    So why allow them to draft rules they can't vote on?

    it's known as "how to dismantle your sport in less than 6 months".

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 17:30

    ooo where you off to BC ????

    Montreal for the weekend

    You do know there's no GP there anymore? ;)

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:31

    So why allow them to draft rules they can't vote on?

    This is Max starting to throw his weight about. FOTA capitulated so now he is creating a crisis as the basis of his election campaign.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:31

    This is Max starting to throw his weight about. FOTA capitulated so now he is creating a crisis as the basis of his election campaign.

    But with Vatanen around, that strategy might actually backfire on Max, as they might decide to blame him...

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:31

    The summer of 1995 tells me they'll bet the farm on Alonso.

    Jean Todt is not at Ferrari any more and Alonso does not have a team to take with him.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:32

    But with Vatanen around, that strategy might actually backfire on Max, as they might decide to blame him...

    We have to hope but it has always worked in the past.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper08/07/2009 at 17:32

    You do know there's no GP there anymore? ;)

    Sadly yes, but I intend on a track visit anyway.

    Wonder if I get to snap any Marmots

    [No Christine, I won't bring one home ;) ]

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 17:32

    btw hi. stupid BT

    Broadband issues?

    For the second day running it just died on me, requiring a router unplug and plug in. Of course then it took 10 minutes for everything to start working again because while it found a connection, Firefox refused to connect to anything.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:32

    Jean Todt is not at Ferrari any more and Alonso does not have a team to take with him.

    But taking Michael's team along wasn't the original plan - that only happened when Schumi and John Barnard couldn't get along.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:33

    We have to hope but it has always worked in the past.

    I'm hoping this is different - Max actually has a proper opponent challenging him.

  • me08/07/2009 at 17:33

    But taking Michael's team along wasn't the original plan - that only happened when Schumi and John Barnard couldn't get along.

    interesting. did not know that.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper08/07/2009 at 17:34

    But taking Michael's team along wasn't the original plan - that only happened when Schumi and John Barnard couldn't get along.

    interesting. did not know that.

    Me neither

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:34

    interesting. did not know that.

    yup - john barnard mentioned it in one of the schumi books i have here...

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:35

    I didn't know your name was 'Steven oy'. ;)

    It wasn't me. I know nothing about Gilles Villeneuve

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:36

    It wasn't me. I know nothing about Gilles Villeneuve

    How do you even know I was referring to Gilles? ;)

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:38

    But taking Michael's team along wasn't the original plan - that only happened when Schumi and John Barnard couldn't get along.

    I am sure it was planned from the start.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:38

    How do you even know I was referring to Gilles? ;)

    Damn you are too clever for me

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 17:38

    Okay, while the FIA continue to play silly idiots here's one to lighten the mood. Remember Mike Lawrence's article about the Scotch Men? Well, he's written a new article about Bernie which features the delightful quote "Sometimes, Bernie, the best policy is to say nothing. Saying nothing beats dealing in racial stereotypes." (bottom half of page 4)

    You couldn't make it up could you?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 17:39

    interesting. did not know that.

    yup - john barnard mentioned it in one of the schumi books i have here...

    James Allen also said it in "The Edge of Greatness"

    When Schumi joined Ferrari, the Italians built the engines and the English built the chassis - they had all sorts of QC issues with things like gearboxes so it was decided to bring in Brawn and Byrne - who brought the whole team to Maranello.

    Apparently this was too late to change Barnard's 1997 design and Byrne had a lot of trouble figuring out the philosophy of it - he could not understand the weight distributions and things like that...

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 17:39

    Why have i found pictures of Nigel Mansell driving a World Series car?!?

  • me08/07/2009 at 17:39

    You couldn't make it up could you?

    i'm not even going to look!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 17:40

    You couldn't make it up could you?

    i'm not even going to look!

    It's typical libellous rubbish I'm afraid...

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:41

    Damn you are too clever for me

    :D

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:41

    Apparently this was too late to change Barnard's 1997 design and Byrne had a lot of trouble figuring out the philosophy of it - he could not understand the weight distributions and things like that...

    That's actually even more detail than what I have here, but it sounds right to me.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:41

    You couldn't make it up could you?

    We are in trouble when that moron is claiming the moral high ground

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:42

    You couldn't make it up could you?

    Maybe he's learned his lesson? ;:-/

    If not, pot, meet kettle. ;)

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:42

    Why have i found pictures of Nigel Mansell driving a World Series car?!?

    It's his sons car

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 17:44

    It's his sons car

    aha, just spotted the G. Mansell on the side!

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:45

    aha, just spotted the G. Mansell on the side!

    G for gargantuan?

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 17:51

    What are the FIA on? Yesterday FOTA were told they couldn't decide the rules without the non-members agreement. Today, only the non-members have a say!

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 17:52

    Parting shot:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76778

    "Sources suggest that F1 owners CVC are furious with the latest development, which has cast a cloud over the future of the sport just a few weeks after peace had broken out."

    Interesting, that. Night, everyone.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 17:53

    Interesting, that. Night, everyone.

    Night

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 17:54

    What are the FIA on? Yesterday FOTA were told they couldn't decide the rules without the non-members agreement. Today, only the non-members have a say!

    It's just Max creating a crisis. I'ts tired, it's lame and its' old just like him

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 17:55

    That's actually even more detail than what I have here, but it sounds right to me.

    I've just read the book so it's very fresh in my mind.

    First quote from Eddie Irvine:

    We were in the S... in 1996. ...[the car] was all inspiration and no measurement. How Michael drove that car, I'll never know. ...I was scared to turn the steering wheel because ... you had no idea what it would do. ....The first Ferrari was a massively pitch sensitive car and roll sensitive.

    Second quote from Ross Brawn:

    John [Barnard]'s car is fairly different from what I am used to; different weight distribution, different geometry and I don't know how he arrived at these things. So we have a lot of unknowns and question markshanging over certain aspects of the car.

    You know, it's funny after reading yesterday's comments about Villeneuve how he had such an easy run towards the 1997 title and yet fluffed it so much it came down to the last race where he had to chase down and beat Schumi... Hardly the mark of a worthy champion :(

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 18:01

    “Sources suggest that F1 owners CVC are furious with the latest development, which has cast a cloud over the future of the sport just a few weeks after peace had broken out.”

    Max is playing a dangerous game. He may think FOTA will run out of time to set up a rival series but he's running out of time to replace them.

  • karen08/07/2009 at 18:02

    night Journeyer ! sleep well.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:04

    “Sources suggest that F1 owners CVC are furious with the latest development, which has cast a cloud over the future of the sport just a few weeks after peace had broken out.”

    are they not just tiny bit upset that their no#1 representative said he liked hitler?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:07

    So to recap, we are back where we started before the teams threatened to breakaway aren't we? Nothing has been achieved and nothing has changed!

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:08

    So to recap, we are back where we started before the teams threatened to breakaway aren't we? Nothing has been achieved and nothing has changed!

    there are three new teams named for 2010. although there's a distinct possibility that their selection may contravene all manner of EU competition laws.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:09

    So to recap, we are back where we started before the teams threatened to breakaway aren't we? Nothing has been achieved and nothing has changed!

    actually, things have changed.

    we're several more months down the line, and significantly more fed up with f1.

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 18:09

    there are three new teams named for 2010. although there's a distinct possibility that their selection may contravene all manner of EU competition laws.

    Aren't the FIA already breaking a few of them already, by both controlling who enters, making the regulations, enforcing the regulation and being their own appeals process?

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:09

    Max is playing a dangerous game. He may think FOTA will run out of time to set up a rival series but he's running out of time to replace them.

    I don't think there are tams to replace them. FOTA should have just committed to the breakaway and had no further discussions with the FIA. The FIA could not have a pu a championship on and FOTA would have had the monopoly,

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:10

    So to recap, we are back where we started before the teams threatened to breakaway aren't we? Nothing has been achieved and nothing has changed!

    actually, things have changed.

    we're several more months down the line, and significantly more fed up with f1.

    Hear Bloody Hear.

    I'm still mad that Lola and Prodrive were denied entry. The three that were chosen are just sops to Max...

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:10

    are they not just tiny bit upset that their no#1 representative said he liked hitler?

    Clearly that doesn't bother them as much as the current problem

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:11

    So to recap, we are back where we started before the teams threatened to breakaway aren't we? Nothing has been achieved and nothing has changed!

    Even I don't believe there will be a breakaway now. FOTA screwed up.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:13

    It's funny, coz this time last year I was so into F1 and really enjoying the championship ... yet right now, I'm not even bothered that I'll miss qualy on Saturday.

    My wife tried to arrange a dinner on Friday, but when the people suggested Saturday I said we should change the day. My wife asked me later "but don't you want to see the F1?" and I said "You know what, I'm not that bothered really..."

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 18:14

    My wife tried to arrange a dinner on Friday, but when the people suggested Saturday I said we should change the day. My wife asked me later "but don't you want to see the F1?" and I said "You know what, I'm not that bothered really..."

    I'm debating spending this weekend clearing out the new office. I just can't be bothered with all this crap again.

    Then again - I could go and do something fun.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:14

    It's funny, coz this time last year I was so into F1 and really enjoying the championship ... yet right now, I'm not even bothered that I'll miss qualy on Saturday.

    saturday is the only good bit though?

    friday i'm not fussed about, and sunday's cool... well because of... umm, the parade lap.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 18:15

    It's funny, coz this time last year I was so into F1 and really enjoying the championship ... yet right now, I'm not even bothered that I'll miss qualy on Saturday.

    I'd kill to see qualifying :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:15

    It's funny, coz this time last year I was so into F1 and really enjoying the championship ... yet right now, I'm not even bothered that I'll miss qualy on Saturday.

    saturday is the only good bit though?

    friday i'm not fussed about, and sunday's cool... well because of... umm, the parade lap.

    But I can watch it later and not worry too much. I'll probably end up blogging while the race is on TBH...

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 18:15

    "You know what, I'm not that bothered really..."

    Ditto

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 18:15

    Even I don't believe there will be a breakaway now. FOTA screwed up.

    But if CVC are indeed miffed, they can decide to move all their contracts to a FOTA breakaway. Effectively, F1 without the FIA.

    Or more probably, they're angling for a way to get Ari voted in.

    In true Steven Roy fashion, I am not here.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:16

    saturday is the only good bit though?

    Is it though? What's so great about qualifying?

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 18:17

    I blame the biofuel. It's been since they introduced biofuel to F1. Bernie can't tell the difference between the Nurburgring GP and the Nuremberg Rally. Max can't remember which teams are in F1 next year and which aren't. And Flavio IS a loonie.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:17

    Is it though? What's so great about qualifying?

    tis the only excitement in f1 at the moment (unless you're listening to legard of course).

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:18

    I blame the biofuel. It's been since they introduced biofuel to F1. Bernie can't tell the difference between the Nurburgring GP and the Nuremberg Rally. Max can't remember which teams are in F1 next year and which aren't. And Flavio IS a loonie.

    :D :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:19

    In true Steven Roy fashion, I am not here.

    Well I hope you read the quotes I dug out for you ;)

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:19

    sidepodspace update

    The official countdown for Saturday night's shuttle launch starts at 10pm Eastern tonight at T-43 hours.

    Curently the forecast says there is a 40% chance of acceptable weather for the launch.

  • Journeyer08/07/2009 at 18:19

    Well I hope you read the quotes I dug out for you ;)

    I did. Pretty good, they are, too. :D

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:20

    Hey all! i'm so pleased to be home. how is everyone?

    So to recap, we are back where we started before the teams threatened to breakaway aren't we? Nothing has been achieved and nothing has changed!

    actually, things have changed.

    we're several more months down the line, and significantly more fed up with f1.

    i've just checked autosport.... not what i needed to hear after the busy day i have had. i think the best solution is just to bury my head in a load of photos...

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:20

    Is it though? What's so great about qualifying?

    Qualifying was ruined as soon as Max came up with the insanity of qualifying with race fuel. Proper qualifying was great but the modern lottery for me just isn't.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:20

    i've just checked autosport.... not what i needed to hear after the busy day i have had. i think the best solution is just to bury my head in a load of photos...

    i very good plan.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:21

    friday i'm not fussed about, and sunday's cool... well because of... umm, the parade lap.

    i still love the races :D which is good because i don't get to see quali this weekend...

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:21

    i very good plan.

    a very plan.

    i plan nothing.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:21

    a very plan.

    oh shoot me.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:21

    Is it though? What's so great about qualifying?

    tis the only excitement in f1 at the moment (unless you're listening to legard of course).

    TBH, it's not that exciting though is it? Each session starts very quietly, then there's a mad rush in the last few seconds while everyone puts in a lap time, while the TV director focuses on the wrong car and the commentators have no idea what is happening. Then in Q3, we have no idea who was actually fastest because of the fuel fing (but at least that gives me something to blog about!)

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:21

    oh shoot me.

    awww. long day mr c?

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 18:21

    Hey all! i'm so pleased to be home. how is everyone?

    I am gooood, i started building my boat today :D

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/18-jpg

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:21

    Hi Lou.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:21

    Qualifying was ruined as soon as Max came up with the insanity of qualifying with race fuel. Proper qualifying was great but the modern lottery for me just isn't.

    we should just boycott the weekend.

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 18:21

    oh shoot me.

    Naaah. We'll just let your chair eat you instead.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:22

    Well I hope you read the quotes I dug out for you ;)

    I did. Pretty good, they are, too. :D

    Thanks - glad you liked them. You should read that book BTW ... it's brilliant!

  • karen08/07/2009 at 18:22

    It's funny, coz this time last year I was so into F1 and really enjoying the championship ... yet right now, I'm not even bothered that I'll miss qualy on Saturday.

    saturday is the only good bit though?

    friday i'm not fussed about, and sunday's cool... well because of... umm, the parade lap.

    its all making this years championship rather futile imo....I'd planned on going to Monza but with all the uncertainty I've kept putting off booking...guess I'll wait to see what next season brings now.....no wonder some teams aren't throwing their energies and resources in trying to turn their cars around for this season....

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:22

    we should just boycott the weekend.

    I am still obsessed despite the best efforts of Bernie and Max.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:23

    Hey all! i'm so pleased to be home. how is everyone?

    I am gooood, i started building my boat today :D

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/18-jpg

    You're building a floating coffin?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:23

    Qualifying was ruined as soon as Max came up with the insanity of qualifying with race fuel. Proper qualifying was great but the modern lottery for me just isn't.

    we should just boycott the weekend.

    Last time I wanted to do that, a certain chirpy German ruined that plan!

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:23

    I am still obsessed despite the best efforts of Bernie and Max.

    fair enough.

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 18:24

    You're building a floating coffin?

    There's 2 - one for Max and one for Bernie?

    Can we put them on floating pyres and buuuuuurn them? :D

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 18:24

    You're building a floating coffin?

    Pretty much.

    Those hulls (when they are finished) will be full of bottles, and then connected together!! Then add a mast, make the sail from a tarp, add a rudder! Sorted

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 18:24

    I am still obsessed despite the best efforts of Bernie and Max.

    Same. They can shove their Bernie and Maxness up a place where the sun don't shine for all I care as long as there's something worth watching.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:24

    we should just boycott the weekend.

    well i for one still love f1 like i used to, so i'll just comment my way through the race on my own :P

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:24

    we should just boycott the weekend.

    YES! Please.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:25

    well i for one still love f1 like i used to, so i'll just comment my way through the race on my own :P

    awwwww!

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:25

    I am gooood, i started building my boat today :D

    :D wohoo! oh i've just seen Jeremy's song in drop.io... it's very sweet :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:26

    Qualifying was ruined as soon as Max came up with the insanity of qualifying with race fuel. Proper qualifying was great but the modern lottery for me just isn't.

    we should just boycott the weekend.

    Last time I wanted to do that, a certain chirpy German ruined that plan!

    I guess the difference is, last year I was so mad because I gave a damn, yet now I'm just not that bothered really!

  • karen08/07/2009 at 18:26

    we should just boycott the weekend.

    I am still obsessed despite the best efforts of Bernie and Max.

    ......despite what I say I know I'll still watch it....

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:26

    :D wohoo! oh i've just seen Jeremy's song in drop.io... it's very sweet :)

    how come i can't find it??

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:26

    YES! Please.

    it's not really that bad is it? i mean ignoring the politics we could still have a great race....

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:26

    YES! Please.

    That looks like a very enthusiastic yes. What would you do with your weekend if not F1

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 18:27

    it's not really that bad is it? i mean ignoring the politics we could still have a great race....

    Hmm, not convinced

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:27

    how come i can't find it??

    It's called memo

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 18:27

    it's not really that bad is it? i mean ignoring the politics we could still have a great race....

    Plus Rubens will win this weekend. I know because I woke up and thought it was Monday earlier.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:28

    how come i can't find it??

    it's here.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:28

    it's not really that bad is it? i mean ignoring the politics we could still have a great race....

    Perhaps. I admire your optimism.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:28

    That looks like a very enthusiastic yes. What would you do with your weekend if not F1

    I have a list.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:28

    Hmm, not convinced

    well there is only one way to find out... watch the race!! :P

  • karen08/07/2009 at 18:28

    That looks like a very enthusiastic yes. What would you do with your weekend if not F1

    theres a topic on its own......"What would you do with your weekend if not F1 ?"

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 18:29

    it's not really that bad is it? i mean ignoring the politics we could still have a great race....

    I've found it is the key to successful enjoyment of this season.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:29

    I have a list.

    Do you really want to do the things on your list though?

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:30

    it's here.

    heheheh. ta.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:30

    Perhaps. I admire your optimism.

    i'm always optimistic towards f1... seeing as my team used to suck. but i mean i see it as if f1 is rubbish next year i should try and treasure every waking moment of racing and brawn's success this year.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:30

    Do you really want to do the things on your list though?

    Absolutely. Otherwise they wouldn't be on the list.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:31

    theres a topic on its own......"What would you do with your weekend if not F1 ?"

    *shudder* i hate non f1 weekends :( i always end up feeling like there is something missing.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 18:31

    I have a list.

    How many of the things on your list are SPC related?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:32

    How many of the things on your list are SPC related?

    I have two lists. One SPC and one not.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:32

    theres a topic on its own......"What would you do with your weekend if not F1 ?"

    practice more live stuff.

    there is world of improvement to make to live shows. it just needs an investment of time and energy.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:32

    I have two lists. One SPC and one not.

    i just have post it notes... lots and lots of post its..

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:32

    theres a topic on its own......"What would you do with your weekend if not F1 ?"

    Well there is the hypothetical space shuttle launch. Those are usually good for a few wasted hours before they get scrubbed.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:33

    Well there is the hypothetical space shuttle launch. Those are usually good for a few wasted hours before they get scrubbed.

    :)

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:34

    there is world of improvement to make to live shows. it just needs an investment of time and energy.

    So what you need is to do shows with no content so that you can sort out all the new stuff you want to do and if there is a race it just clutters the show up with too much content.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:35

    So what you need is to do shows with no content so that you can sort out all the new stuff you want to do and if there is a race it just clutters the show up with too much content.

    bingo!

    pretty much what we did on sunday in fact...

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 18:35

    I have two lists. One SPC and one not.

    i just have post it notes... lots and lots of post its..

    I have a list in my head. I say 'list', more a jumbled collection of things I sometimes remember I need to do.

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 18:36

    i think the best solution is just to bury my head in a load of photos…

    I'm opting for concrete :-(

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 18:36

    pretty much what we did on sunday in fact...

    i enjoyed sunday's 'show'. very relaxed and enjoyable

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:37

    I'm opting for concrete :-(

    You want to bury Lou's head in concrete. That isn't very friendly

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:37

    I'm opting for concrete :-(

    concrete would hurt though.. at least my photos are still f1 related :D hehe

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:37

    You want to bury Lou's head in concrete. That isn't very friendly

    :P

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:38

    i enjoyed sunday's 'show'. very relaxed and enjoyable

    i'll need to watch that back at some point then..

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:38

    i enjoyed sunday's 'show'. very relaxed and enjoyable

    I thought it was relaxing too. Didn't need to make a list of show titles and had a one sided skype conversation.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 18:38

    i'll need to watch that back at some point then..

    less watching, more turning on and listening whilst doing something else. its very relaxing..ish

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:39

    i'll need to watch that back at some point then..

    Really not.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:40

    less watching, more turning on and listening whilst doing something else. its very relaxing..ish

    so what you lot are saying is you prefer the shows that aren't relevant to f1?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:41

    so what you lot are saying is you prefer the shows that aren't relevant to f1?

    We played an F1 game.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:41

    Really not.

    oh why? i watch/ listen to every show you guys do... would be a shame to stop doing that now...

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:41

    We played an F1 game.

    ahhh cool! :D

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:42

    oh why? i watch/ listen to every show you guys do... would be a shame to stop doing that now...

    It wasn't a show.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:43

    It wasn't a show.

    ah well ;)

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:45

    ah well ;)

    I can see the logic to Jon's suggestion of having it on whilst your doing something else. But don't make a special effort. It's two hours of hmm, ahh, check 1-2-3, is Skype working, cover the camera while Mr C walks past. Very useful for us but I don't expect very entertaining.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:46

    I can see the logic to Jon's suggestion of having it on whilst your doing something else. But don't make a special effort. It's two hours of hmm, ahh, check 1-2-3, is Skype working, cover the camera while Mr C walks past. Very useful for us but I don't expect very entertaining.

    well i'm editing photos all evening, i have plenty of time! :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:46

    ah well ;)

    I can see the logic to Jon's suggestion of having it on whilst your doing something else. But don't make a special effort. It's two hours of hmm, ahh, check 1-2-3, is Skype working, cover the camera while Mr C walks past. Very useful for us but I don't expect very entertaining.

    So it was good that I watched Top Gear while you did it then?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:48

    So it was good that I watched Top Gear while you did it then?

    Depends on your opinion of Top Gear!! :)

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:48

    So it was good that I watched Top Gear while you did it then?

    depends if you like top gear...

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:48

    well i'm editing photos all evening, i have plenty of time! :D

    Enjoy.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 18:48

    depends if you like top gear...

    Beat ya!

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 18:49

    depends if you like top gear...

    I would've took the show of nothingness over TG this week; thought Sunday's show was the worst for a LONG time.

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:49

    Beat ya!

    you can type and not look. no fair!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:50

    Depends on your opinion of Top Gear!! :)

    Funnily enough, my opinion of Top Gear closely resembles F1:

    "Used to be really good, but too much fighting and bickering and too many similar races are starting to make it a bit boring!"

  • lou08/07/2009 at 18:50

    I would've took the show of nothingness over TG this week; thought Sunday's show was the worst for a LONG time.

    oooo i still need to iplayer top gear. why was it bad out of interest?

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 18:51

    oooo i still need to iplayer top gear. why was it bad out of interest?

    after last weeks one (which was possibly my favourite one ever) any would be rubbish

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:51

    I can see the logic to Jon's suggestion of having it on whilst your doing something else. But don't make a special effort. It's two hours of hmm, ahh, check 1-2-3, is Skype working, cover the camera while Mr C walks past. Very useful for us but I don't expect very entertaining.

    It was actually quite fun although I couldn't explain why.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 18:51

    oooo i still need to iplayer top gear. why was it bad out of interest?

    Maybe it was the high of goodwood making me think it was just a disappointing show, I dunno. It wasn't as interesting as usual and the only thing worth watching about it is the brilliant, brilliant Michael McIntyre of course :)

    Asides from him, just seems a very drab hour :(

  • me08/07/2009 at 18:53

    Asides from him, just seems a very drab hour :(

    it was interesting that we weren't allowed to go live until tennis finished, but carried on right through TG without even thinking about it.

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 18:53

    I would've took the show of nothingness over TG this week; thought Sunday's show was the worst for a LONG time.

    Hmm. I missed it 'cos I was elsewhere ;-) but intend to watch the repeat on BBC2 in 5 mins.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 18:54

    oooo i still need to iplayer top gear. why was it bad out of interest?

    Maybe it was the high of goodwood making me think it was just a disappointing show, I dunno. It wasn't as interesting as usual and the only thing worth watching about it is the brilliant, brilliant Michael McIntyre of course :)

    Asides from him, just seems a very drab hour :(

    I'm a bit behind, and I just saw the arctic one. After reading a brilliant book about Arctic explorers the way TG bumbled through and didn't take it seriosly just annoyed me!

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 18:59

    it was interesting that we weren't allowed to go live until tennis finished, but carried on right through TG without even thinking about it.

    I haven't een bothered watching Top Gear on the iplayer. It was interesting that almost no-one left to watch it.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 19:03

    it was interesting that we weren't allowed to go live until tennis finished, but carried on right through TG without even thinking about it.

    We coulda gone live earlier, but it would have just been me going: "Oh for god's sake, deuce again??"

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 19:04

    I haven't een bothered watching Top Gear on the iplayer. It was interesting that almost no-one left to watch it.

    I still haven't seen last weeks. The tennis made it start early or the timings were late or something so it missed hte first 15 minutes

    I was out having a boogie. :D

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 19:13

    For those who might like the idea: http://twitter.com/search?q=#f1happyplace

  • Scott Woodwiss08/07/2009 at 19:14

    I was out having a boogie. :D

    So you're blaming it on that now?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 19:14

    For those who might like the idea: http://twitter.com/search?q=#f1happyplace

    I very much like this idea.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 19:15

    For those who might like the idea: http://twitter.com/search?q=#f1happyplace

    Hehe :)

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 19:15

    So you're blaming it on that now?

    ;)

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 19:16

    So you're blaming it on that now?

    Nope - blaming it on the Jive Aces. :D

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 19:23

    I (heart) Christine

    http://twitter.com/mrschristine/status/2537347369

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 19:24

    I hope the kids of today know who Pob is... Or my last tweet is just weird ;)

    http://twitter.com/alexandronov/status/2537353719

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 19:25

    I hope the kids of today know who Pob is... Or my last tweet is just weird ;)

    umm..

  • me08/07/2009 at 19:25

    I hope the kids of today know who Pob is... Or my last tweet is just weird ;)

    :D

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 19:26

    I hope the kids of today know who Pob is... Or my last tweet is just weird ;)

    P..o...b.. Pob.

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 19:26

    umm..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0n6oDTxi0

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 19:26

    Joe is sending out an SOS http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/·-·-·-—-—-—-·-·-·/

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 19:26

    I hope the kids of today know who Pob is... Or my last tweet is just weird ;)

    Puhhh Ohhh Buh

  • me08/07/2009 at 19:27

    Joe is sending out an SOS http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/·-·-·-—-—-—-·-·-·/

    awesome!

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 19:27

    and I wrote one only to hit send with only the hashtag

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 19:30

    and I wrote one only to hit send with only the hashtag

    Was worth the wait though

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 19:31

    Joe is sending out an SOS http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/·-·-·-—-—-—-·-·-·/

    awesome!

    It is a very good post!

  • me08/07/2009 at 19:32

    It is a very good post!

    i agree wholeheartedly. with you and with joe.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 19:33

    Quiz time

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 19:34

    i agree wholeheartedly. with you and with joe.

    The last few sentences are perfection.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 19:38

    The last few sentences are perfection.

    You are on fire with your tweets tonight!

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 19:38

    You are on fire with your tweets tonight!

    Alex started it.

  • Scott Woodwiss08/07/2009 at 19:40

    Forgot to say hi, so, erm, hi :)

    Very stressful day at work today. Had a guy crabbing out at me for 25 minutes on the phone because I said we couldn't make his handset a priority repair. Let's just call him a moron since what I actually called after I'd finished the call's not suitable for here. :P

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 19:42

    Alex started it.

    Oh that's right blame... oh yes that's a good thing ;)

  • me08/07/2009 at 19:42

    Forgot to say hi, so, erm, hi :)

    hi.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 19:47

    ahaha i'm listening to sunday's rehearsal. Christine trying to sh the skype lady is funny :D

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 19:47

    Has anyone ever been to Pageant of Power at Cholmondeley?

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 19:49

    Has anyone ever been to Pageant of Power at Cholmondeley?

    Only just heard of it a few seconds ago on another website.

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 19:53

    Only just heard of it a few seconds ago on another website.

    ha :-)

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 19:58

    Only just heard of it a few seconds ago on another website.

    Ha! :-)

    I just happen to be in Cheshire the same weekend and trying to decide whether it will be worth going to drool over some Bugattis. I think, yes.

    http://www.cpop.co.uk/

  • me08/07/2009 at 19:59

    I just happen to be in Cheshire the same weekend and trying to decide whether it will be worth going to drool over some Bugattis. I think, yes.

    http://www.cpop.co.uk/

    cooool!

    and only £15.00?

  • Alianora La Canta08/07/2009 at 19:59

    I have officially launched the FIA Nut campaign. If you're annoyed/angry/insert-negative-emotion-here at the FIA, please send them some nuts to get that emotion out of your system and encourage them to remove Max Mosley.

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 19:59

    can someone pass on a message to Mav please .. I have mailed quiz questions I can't get into PF chat

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 20:00

    can someone pass on a message to Mav please .. I have mailed quiz questions I can't get into PF chat

    it broke for me too

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:00

    oh so its not just me then

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 20:00

    can someone pass on a message to Mav please .. I have mailed quiz questions I can't get into PF chat

    it broke for me too

    In fact I can't get on to PF at all

  • me08/07/2009 at 20:00

    can someone pass on a message to Mav please .. I have mailed quiz questions I can't get into PF chat

    MAV!!

    or do you mean via email?

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:01

    In fact I can't get on to PF at all

    neither can I, I got kicked out

  • me08/07/2009 at 20:01

    heehehehe:

    "Gareth Rees confirmed in expert's chair for GP2 on British Eurosport... We're getting the band back together and we're on a Mission from God"

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:01

    Sorry, I thought I was the only one who couldn't get in, my computer has been a twit since I got home

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:02

    can someone pass on a message to Mav please .. I have mailed quiz questions I can't get into PF chat

    Just refreshed and got "failed to connect".

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:02

    I just happen to be in Cheshire the same weekend and trying to decide whether it will be worth going to drool over some Bugattis. I think, yes.

    http://www.cpop.co.uk/

    Looks like a fun weekend

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:02

    Oh hello all btw :D

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:04

    "Gareth Rees confirmed in expert's chair for GP2 on British Eurosport... We're getting the band back together and we're on a Mission from God"

    You have to love the Blues Brothers. Put it on your list Christine. You have to see it.

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 20:05

    I can't get in either, do you think Max has shut us down for telling him where to go?

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 20:06

    You have to love the Blues Brothers. Put it on your list Christine. You have to see it.

    Will do.

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:06

    I can't get in either, do you think Max has shut us down for telling him where to go?

    LOL it appears to be up and running again

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:06

    I can't get in either, do you think Max has shut us down for telling him where to go?

    It works now

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:07

    Will do.

    That will give you lots of song ideas. The thing is you can't just watch it once. You become addicted to it

  • lou08/07/2009 at 20:09

    Looks like a fun weekend

    certainly does... such a shame it's miles and miles away for me though.

  • Alex Andronov08/07/2009 at 20:12

    That will give you lots of song ideas. The thing is you can't just watch it once. You become addicted to it

    Very true

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 20:12

    and only £15.00?

    £25 for paddock access, much bargainess I think

    Also, Blues Brothers is legendary

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 20:14

    Also, Blues Brothers is legendary

    Currently watching the extended edition on DVD. :D

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 20:15

    Has anyone ever been to Pageant of Power at Cholmondeley?

    Who was complaining about the lack of events in the North of England last week?

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:15

    I can't wait to read Christine's blog entry for the Blues Brothers.

  • me08/07/2009 at 20:20

    I can't wait to read Christine's blog entry for the Blues Brothers.

    :)

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 20:23

    I have officially launched the FIA Nut campaign. If you’re annoyed/angry/insert-negative-emotion-here at the FIA, please send them some nuts to get that emotion out of your system and encourage them to remove Max Mosley.

    Max will probably find a way to turn a tidy profit out of them

    Bernie is buying shares in nuts as we speak

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 20:28

    Has anyone read the Watchmen graphic novels at all? Not really a blog entry that may be too popular but just thought I'd hace a try and write up f1 politics as if it were through the words of the Rorschach character...

    Not sure if it's a little too negative to be sharing but eh, might as well. He is a negative character afterall ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 20:28

    Does anyone know how the fuel use figures in the f1 yearbook are calculated?

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:29

    Does anyone know how the fuel use figures in the f1 yearbook are calculated?

    Nope it doesn't say how, it just gives them and there are none for the Nurburgring since it wasn't held last year

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 20:31

    Does anyone know how the fuel use figures in the f1 yearbook are calculated?

    Nope it doesn't say how, it just gives them and there are none for the Nurburgring since it wasn't held last year

    Alianora included some in her Fuel Fing: 2.330 KG/lap and 0.039s/lap...

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:31

    Does anyone know how the fuel use figures in the f1 yearbook are calculated?

    From the ecu??

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 20:32

    Has anyone read the Watchmen graphic novels at all? Not really a blog entry that may be too popular but just thought I'd hace a try and write up f1 politics as if it were through the words of the Rorschach character...

    Not sure if it's a little too negative to be sharing but eh, might as well. He is a negative character afterall ;)

    #f1sadplace?

  • lou08/07/2009 at 20:33

    oooo i like the describe an f1 character in 3 words game :D i also like that Mr C didn't say anything mean about Jenson :)

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 20:33

    #f1sadplace?

    No, only happy place allowed!

    *blames the watchmen soundtrack*

    :P

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 20:34

    #f1sadplace?

    surely that would just be #f1

    ??

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:34

    oooo i like the describe an f1 character in 3 words game :D i also like that Mr C didn't say anything mean about Jenson :)

    There is a wiki page full of them

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:34

    Alianora included some in her Fuel Fing: 2.330 KG/lap and 0.039s/lap...

    I got the fuel per lap at 2.4? fro Williams F1 but don't have a value for the cost per lap.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 20:35

    There is a wiki page full of them

    ooooh!! :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 20:36

    Alianora included some in her Fuel Fing: 2.330 KG/lap and 0.039s/lap...

    I got the fuel per lap at 2.4? fro Williams F1 but don't have a value for the cost per lap.

    Well Alianora said she got hers from the F1 yearbook. I would assume these are 2007 figures?

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:37

    Probably .. I only have this years yearbook that gives the 2008 figures

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 20:37

    This is a tweet from Murray_Walker:

    About to head to the airport - I've been in LA for Michael Jackson's memorial. "You Are Not Alone" was always my pre-commentary listen. RIP.

    Eh???

  • Scott Woodwiss08/07/2009 at 20:38

    ooooh!! :D

    Feel free to add you own!

    Let me guess: "Jenson - I love him!" ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss08/07/2009 at 20:38

    Eh???

    Erm...not sure what to say to that...

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 20:39

    Feel free to add you own!

    John Button - *squeal* *squeal* *squeal*

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:39

    This is a tweet from Murray_Walker:

    Do you reckon that's the real Murray Walker, I don't

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 20:39

    This is a tweet from Murray_Walker:

    That has to be a wind up

  • Maverick08/07/2009 at 20:39

    #f1sadplace?

    8, Place de la Concorde?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 20:41

    This is a tweet from Murray_Walker:

    Do you reckon that's the real Murray Walker, I don't

    If you look at his other tweets I think it's a fake...

  • lou08/07/2009 at 20:42

    John Button - *squeal* *squeal* *squeal*

    ssshhh!! they don't need to know that i squealed constantly for ages, and that because of it 'team button' probably think i was a little mental....

  • lou08/07/2009 at 20:42

    Let me guess: "Jenson - I love him!" ;)

    hehe

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 20:47

    Let me guess: "Jenson - I love him!" ;)

    hehe

    or...

    Jenson - mineminemine

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 20:50

    Probably worth mentioning the quiz plans for next week here too?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 20:50

    Probably worth mentioning the quiz plans for next week here too?

    Please do...

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 20:51

    Today's was cancelled due to website issues. So the plan for next week is a big quiz with double the questions, for a prize

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 20:54

    MrC can I do a bit of self promotion or Mav promotion?

  • Alison08/07/2009 at 20:54

    Evening

    My beautiful computer can get online again :D

  • me08/07/2009 at 20:57

    MrC can I do a bit of self promotion or Mav promotion?

    go for it.

    (i'm not here btw)

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 21:04

    Thank you :D

    I just wanted to highlight Mav's latest blog post .. he's having a bit of a personal rant about the FIA and the recent goings on. I know I'm biased, but I think its cool and worth a read. http://tinyurl.com/mealo6

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:05

    (i'm not here btw)

    erm.. no. course not ;)

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:05

    Thank you :D

    a-ha. i believe that post may also feature in tomorrows daily thread.

    recommended.

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:05

    erm.. no. course not ;)

    i'm not!

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 21:05

    MrC can I do a bit of self promotion or Mav promotion?

    You don't have to ask, Jackie.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:06

    i'm not!

    i think i'm imagining comments...

  • Andy Taylor08/07/2009 at 21:06

    I’m a bit behind, and I just saw the arctic one. After reading a brilliant book about Arctic explorers the way TG bumbled through and didn’t take it seriosly just annoyed me!

    Read Richard Hammond's "As You Do" and you'll find they took it very seriously indeed.

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 21:07

    You don't have to ask, Jackie.

    Thanks Christine :) I always like to make sure it's okay first, don't want you thinking I take you for granted.

  • Alison08/07/2009 at 21:07

    Oooooh omnibus!!

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 21:08

    Oooooh omnibus!!

    Where?

  • Alison08/07/2009 at 21:09

    Where?

    itunes. I've not listened to any of the mini series. That's my next job!

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 21:11

    itunes. I've not listened to any of the mini series. That's my next job!

    I'm sorry to say that I haven't yet either *blush* the latest five are always downloaded to my ipod so I will catch up by the weekend.

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:12

    i think i'm imagining comments...

    :D

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:12

    I'm sorry to say that I haven't yet either *blush* the latest five are always downloaded to my ipod so I will catch up by the weekend.

    no rush. the mini-series are timeless ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 21:13

    I’m a bit behind, and I just saw the arctic one. After reading a brilliant book about Arctic explorers the way TG bumbled through and didn’t take it seriosly just annoyed me!

    Read Richard Hammond's "As You Do" and you'll find they took it very seriously indeed.

    I have that book. Haven't read it yet though. I just got the feeling they made it look like a bit of a joke or something...

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 21:14

    I have that book. Haven't read it yet though. I just got the feeling they made it look like a bit of a joke or something...

    Clarkson and May maybe, but hammond not so much, you have to seriously fit to go on a dog sled like he did.

    I think they may have thought it would be a bit of a jolly at first..until they hit hte ice fields

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 21:17

    I have that book. Haven't read it yet though. I just got the feeling they made it look like a bit of a joke or something...

    Clarkson and May maybe, but hammond not so much, you have to seriously fit to go on a dog sled like he did.

    I think they may have thought it would be a bit of a jolly at first..until they hit hte ice fields

    I'm reading "To the End of the Earth" by Tom Avery. He's trying to see if a bloke called Peary really could have got to the Geographic North Pole in 37 days - it's a good read!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 21:19

    Thank you :D

    I just wanted to highlight Mav's latest blog post .. he's having a bit of a personal rant about the FIA and the recent goings on. I know I'm biased, but I think its cool and worth a read. http://tinyurl.com/mealo6

    It's a very good post!

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:26

    Jon was right the show made for great listening while doing other things :)

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 21:27

    Thank you :D

    I just wanted to highlight Mav's latest blog post .. he's having a bit of a personal rant about the FIA and the recent goings on. I know I'm biased, but I think its cool and worth a read. http://tinyurl.com/mealo6

    It is a good analysis - the last few days have left me feeling that FOTA should NOW simply cut the ties with Max and do their own thing. If they can get Lola, Prodrive, Epsilon Euskadi and N.technology on board with them they will have most of the public support for an F1-like series. I do feel sorry for Willimas F1 though that this could be their demise -caught contracted to a dead-end series.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 21:28

    I may print screen...

    Jon was right

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:29

    I may print screen...

    Jon was right

    you've been right before surely?

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 21:29

    you've been right before surely?

    yeah but its not often other people admit it too ;)

  • Alison08/07/2009 at 21:29

    What's happened now? I thought all was well(ish...)

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 21:32

    OK. I'm uninstalling photoshop.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 21:32

    What's happened now? I thought all was well(ish...)

    It was until today. Then the FIA decided the 8 FOTA teams had not properly entered the championship despite the WMSC announcing that they had. There was a meeting to discuss next year's rules and the FIA decided as they hadn't entered they were not entitled to vote on the rules. So FOTA walked out of the meeting.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:33

    yeah but its not often other people admit it too ;)

    ahhhh i see :D

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:33

    OK. I'm uninstalling photoshop.

    wha?? why?

  • Scott Woodwiss08/07/2009 at 21:33

    OK. I'm uninstalling photoshop.

    NOOOOOOOO! :(

  • Alison08/07/2009 at 21:34

    For God's sake. How ridiculous!!

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 21:34

    wha?? why?

    I've spent nearly 4 hours on it this evening messing about and i kinda feel like im wasting my time now with it. it's starting bugging me how much time I spend using it and wasting my time... :(

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 21:34

    For God's sake. How ridiculous!!

    That's Max for you

  • Scott Woodwiss08/07/2009 at 21:35

    I've spent nearly 4 hours on it this evening messing about and i kinda feel like im wasting my time now with it. it's starting bugging me how much time I spend using it and wasting my time... :(

    But we love your work :(

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:35

    I've spent nearly 4 hours on it this evening messing about and i kinda feel like im wasting my time now with it. it's starting bugging me how much time I spend using it and wasting my time... :(

    aw..but it's not wasted time, you always come up with amazing things! i've been spending the whole evening on photoshop too.. still not 1/2 way through my g/w photos yet..

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 21:35

    OK. I'm uninstalling photoshop.

    Quite right. Try this instead

    http://www.xtranormal.com/

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 21:36

    I have that book. Haven't read it yet though. I just got the feeling they made it look like a bit of a joke or something...

    Nobody could have NOT taken that expedition to the North Pole seriously. The logistics involved must have been staggering and very real dangers and unknowns. As far as Richard Hammond with the husky-sledge - that would have been hugely challenging and took lots of bravery.

    In reality they did not actually reach the North Pole - not even Magnetic North Pole - just the point where Magnetic North was in 1996 - you see it moves around quite a bit. It was still an awesome achievement by all including the BBC for producing such a programme.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 21:39

    aw..but it's not wasted time, you always come up with amazing things! i've been spending the whole evening on photoshop too.. still not 1/2 way through my g/w photos yet..

    I think I'll just try and leave it for a while, delete the desktop shortcut and hdie it away because I'll still need it for photos anyways. Am just a litle annoyed at myself for the amount of time I mess about on it :(

    It's very silly I know... I doubt i'll get rid of it anyways (have installation disk on shelf) but i just have this very stupid moments with stuff like that...

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:41

    I think I'll just try and leave it for a while, delete the desktop shortcut and hdie it away because I'll still need it for photos anyways. Am just a litle annoyed at myself for the amount of time I mess about on it :(

    try lightroom for photos? it doesn't have layers, might be a new challenge.

    you do know that photoshop people get paid quite a bit though, right?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 21:44

    you do know that photoshop people get paid quite a bit though, right?

    That's not always true...

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 21:44

    you do know that photoshop people get paid quite a bit though, right?

    Yeah... although I'd still do it for fun rather than money. I enjoy mssing about on it but for me it's like pringles, but not as tasty - once you pop, you just cant stop. I could just make stuff on it for hours and not realise the time...

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:45

    That's not always true...

    if you're good at photoshop and don't get paid very much... you need a better agent.

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:45

    Yeah... although I'd still do it for fun rather than money. I enjoy mssing about on it but for me it's like pringles, but not as tasty - once you pop, you just cant stop. I could just make stuff on it for hours and not realise the time...

    is it not better to waste hours being creative, than say, playing video games?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 21:45

    That's not always true...

    if you're good at photoshop and don't get paid very much... you need a better agent.

    Or you work in the printing trade...

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 21:45

    Yeah... although I'd still do it for fun rather than money. I enjoy mssing about on it but for me it's like pringles, but not as tasty - once you pop, you just cant stop. I could just make stuff on it for hours and not realise the time...

    I've got something of a craving to make car liveries on it again.. The netkar stuff was easy to do on it. Wonder if rFactor is the same..

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 21:46

    is it not better to waste hours being creative, than say, playing video games?

    unless you are being creative in video games? you can make some kickass stuff in Rollercoaster Tycoon

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:46

    Or you work in the printing trade...

    doesn't the print trade use acrobat (and maybe indesign)?

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 21:46

    is it not better to waste hours being creative, than say, playing video games?

    I suppose so but it doesn't help I have an exam resit next week and it's C++ once again :P

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 21:46

    unless you are being creative in video games? you can make some kickass stuff in Rollercoaster Tycoon

    i (heart) that game

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:47

    unless you are being creative in video games? you can make some kickass stuff in Rollercoaster Tycoon

    true. i'll give you that.

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:47

    I suppose so but it doesn't help I have an exam resit next week and it's C++ once again :P

    ahhh. but the photoshop down lukeh.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 21:48

    Or you work in the printing trade...

    doesn't the print trade use acrobat (and maybe indesign)?

    Also true... but the majority of stuff is done in photoshop first...

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 21:48

    I suppose so but it doesn't help I have an exam resit next week and it's C++ once again :P

    You just gotta say, Lukeh, we are good at shooing people.

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:50

    Also true... but the majority of stuff is done in photoshop first...

    not talented photoshop though. that's more "anyone can do that" photoshop. hence the reflection in pay. no?

  • Alison08/07/2009 at 21:51

    Done listening to your mini series. Great job guys, thanks!!

  • Alison08/07/2009 at 21:51

    (as always :))

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:51

    Done listening to your mini series. Great job guys, thanks!!

    all credit to christine. i done nothing.

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 21:53

    I suppose so but it doesn't help I have an exam resit next week and it's C++ once again :P

    Oh no! good luck with that

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:53

    all credit to christine. i done nothing.

    are you here now, or am i still imagining you? ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 21:54

    Also true... but the majority of stuff is done in photoshop first...

    not talented photoshop though. that's more "anyone can do that" photoshop. hence the reflection in pay. no?

    The person I am thinking of went on two years of Photoshop courses!

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 21:55

    Oh no! good luck with that

    thanks :)

    the results gave me one of those d'oh moments; did the horrible many weeks portfolio of work fine with an A, managed to mess up the easy in class assesment by overcomplicating my work. Typical!

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:56

    The person I am thinking of went on two years of Photoshop courses!

    fair enough. am just saying lukeh could do worse than PS.

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:56

    are you here now, or am i still imagining you? ;)

    nope. been away all evening.

  • Christine08/07/2009 at 21:56

    The person I am thinking of went on two years of Photoshop courses!

    Courses don't always equal talent.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 21:57

    nope. been away all evening.

    ahh right. nice to know my imagination is still working alright then :D

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:58

    Courses don't always equal talent.

    also true. i'd also say if would depend on how intense those 2 years were.

    full time, that is an insane amount of time to spend on one app. but if it was an hour a week... you're not going to get very far.

  • Andy Taylor08/07/2009 at 21:58

    Courses don't always equal talent.

    I agree. I mean I can make stuff look better in Photoshop, but I need a decent picture to start. Lukeh on the other hand can work magic :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 21:58

    The person I am thinking of went on two years of Photoshop courses!

    Courses don't always equal talent.

    True, but they would know more than the "anyone can do that" brigade. There are plenty of people out there who can work on photoshop now, so it's not as well paid as it used to be!

  • me08/07/2009 at 21:59

    There are plenty of people out there who can work on photoshop now, so it's not as well paid as it used to be!

    that isn't quite true either though. i know good people earning good money doing just PS. i met someone earlier today in fact.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:01

    that isn't quite true either though. i know good people earning good money doing just PS. i met someone earlier today in fact.

    you went outside?

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:01

    you went outside?

    relax. i met the person indoors.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:02

    you went outside?

    he could be outside right now... all we know is he isn't here :)

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:02

    I agree. I mean I can make stuff look better in Photoshop, but I need a decent picture to start. Lukeh on the other hand can work magic :)

    I can do original stuff in photoshop - but it takes too long compared to a professional graphic artist. We used to employ such a guy, but these days there is less emphasis on the graphics in web-design so do it my self.

    Being good in Photoshop is really about both experience and imagination and should be well rewarded financially (but sadly not in SA!).

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:02

    he could be outside right now... all we know is he isn't here :)

    true.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:02

    relax. i met the person indoors.

    phew!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 22:02

    that isn't quite true either though. i know good people earning good money doing just PS. i met someone earlier today in fact.

    OK then. Clearly we have two very different examples here. Perhaps the truth lies somewhere in the middle...?

  • Jackie08/07/2009 at 22:03

    he could be outside right now... all we know is he isn't here :)

    hehe :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 22:03

    I agree. I mean I can make stuff look better in Photoshop, but I need a decent picture to start. Lukeh on the other hand can work magic :)

    I can do original stuff in photoshop - but it takes too long compared to a professional graphic artist. We used to employ such a guy, but these days there is less emphasis on the graphics in web-design so do it my self.

    Being good in Photoshop is really about both experience and imagination and should be well rewarded financially (but sadly not in SA!).

    And that's why it isn't as well paid as it used to be - most companies DIY...

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:04

    OK then. Clearly we have two very different examples here. Perhaps the truth lies somewhere in the middle...?

    In our part of the world even top developers in flash graphics and animation are still rather poorly paid.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:05

    I agree. I mean I can make stuff look better in Photoshop, but I need a decent picture to start. Lukeh on the other hand can work magic :)

    I just have a lot of patience with it because i do really massively enjoy using it and i'll annoyingly admit im a perfectionist, if it doesnt look right i'll simply delete it and start again, plus it's always nice being given any opportunity to throw out a bit of creativitty into the laps of others via that means, was the same with school with my art stuff but i shallnt go into that here.

    It's probably a little selfish to say 'I dont know why i should be complemented for doing stuff thats just in my mind' but i dunno... it's honest how I feel about it all. Hopefully people like what I do and it means a lot to me when people do. Plus working with a job doing stuff on photoshop would be amazing. I just get annoyed at myself sometimes for spending too much time with it is all when there's more important matters on hand ie. this flippin' exam.

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:06

    And that's why it isn't as well paid as it used to be - most companies DIY...

    Yes and some websites it rather shows! I just finished doing our new linuxMint desktops and you realise what a pain it is to design for so many different screen sizes.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 22:07

    It's probably a little selfish to say 'I dont know why i should be complemented for doing stuff thats just in my mind' but i dunno... it's honest how I feel about it all. Hopefully people like what I do and it means a lot to me when people do. Plus working with a job doing stuff on photoshop would be amazing. I just get annoyed at myself sometimes for spending too much time with it is all when there's more important matters on hand ie. this flippin' exam.

    You should go for it - you have the talent, just don't take any photoshop job else you'll end up retouching bank adverts until 2am because you got a last minute job from a customer...

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:08

    I just have a lot of patience with it because i do really massively enjoy using it and i'll annoyingly admit im a perfectionist, if it doesnt look right i'll simply delete it and start again, plus it's always nice being given any opportunity to throw out a bit of creativitty into the laps of others via that means, was the same with school with my art stuff but i shallnt go into that here.

    My problem is that I know what I have in my mind but to get it right in the layers of a photoshop - I get perfectionsit and it takes too long.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:09

    Lukeh, i have a question for you. who was the young guy you pointed out in the Williams garage... who apparently was famous/ a driver? i can't remember his name.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:10

    Lukeh, i have a question for you. who was the young guy you pointed out in the Williams garage... who apparently was famous/ a driver? i can't remember his name.

    oh maybe i should add, this was at goodwood...

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:10

    Lukeh, i have a question for you. who was the young guy you pointed out in the Williams garage... who apparently was famous/ a driver? i can't remember his name.

    Sam Bird?

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:11

    There are plenty of people out there who can work on photoshop now, so it's not as well paid as it used to be!

    the stats i'm looking at say average income for photoshop artists in uk has increased by £9,000 in the past 5 years.

    why do you think people are worse off now?

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:11

    Sam Bird?

    the very man himself! :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 22:12

    There are plenty of people out there who can work on photoshop now, so it's not as well paid as it used to be!

    the stats i'm looking at say average income for photoshop artists in uk has increased by £9,000 in the past 5 years.

    why do you think people are worse off now?

    Because I'm not thinking of the UK, am I ;)

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:12

    the stats i'm looking at say average income for photoshop artists in uk has increased by £9,000 in the past 5 years.

    but would not the economic down-turn have some impact on these stats?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 22:13

    the stats i'm looking at say average income for photoshop artists in uk has increased by £9,000 in the past 5 years.

    You're not using facts to back up an argument are you? This is Sidepodcast!

  • Alison08/07/2009 at 22:13

    Eurgh eurgh eurgh! The air con is broken at work and it's been that hot, it's given me spots! It's horrible.....

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:13

    Sam Bird?

    ahh that's it! thanks! am going to find out some more about him. he is a formula 3 or some series driver isn't he?

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:14

    ahh that's it! thanks! am going to find out some more about him. he is a formula 3 or some series driver isn't he?

    correct

    euro series

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:15

    correct

    euro series

    cool! thanks.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:15

    ahh that's it! thanks! am going to find out some more about him. he is a formula 3 or some series driver isn't he?

    Yep, F3 and he used to drive for Manor Motorsport if I'm remembering rightly. Possibly a seat for him next year I'm wondering?

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:16

    Sam Bird?

    ahh that's it! thanks! am going to find out some more about him. he is a formula 3 or some series driver isn't he?

    We played his F3 game. I think it was something to to with BP

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:16

    but would not the economic down-turn have some impact on these stats?

    yes it does.

    demand has increased in the past 4 months by 2%, and the increase in pay has leveled off since the start of the year.

    no decrease though, and no-one is worse off.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:16

    We played his F3 game. I think it was something to to with BP

    he's sponsored by BP Ultimate

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:17

    he's sponsored by BP Ultimate

    That makes sense then

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:17

    If you want to catch up on today's news read James Allens Not a mere trifle in the Eiffel - http://jamesallenonf1.com/

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:20

    demand has increased in the past 4 months by 2%, and the increase in pay has leveled off since the start of the year.

    Interesting - it is more volatile here - so advertising cutbacks have been significant. We are already gearing up to training for the government sector based on a range of "Open Source" solutions.

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:20

    If you want to catch up on today's news read James Allens Not a mere trifle in the Eiffel - http://jamesallenonf1.com/

    Oh for goodness sake. Why are the FOTA teams not entered exactly?

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:21

    Oh for goodness sake. Why are the FOTA teams not entered exactly?

    Only Max knows that

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:21

    Oh for goodness sake. Why are the FOTA teams not entered exactly?

    they're smelly.

    (allegedly)

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:22

    Only Max knows that

    I'm sorely tempted to forget this and follow the Tour.....

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:22

    they're smelly.

    FOTA will respond with 'I know you are but what am I?', I'm sure of it

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:22

    I'm sorely tempted to forget this and follow the Tour.....

    do it, i do love a bit of cycling

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:22

    Oh for goodness sake. Why are the FOTA teams not entered exactly?

    Why did the FIA only award new entry to teams if they used Cosworth Engines. I think some very serious issues are going to be knocking on FIA's doors - they seem blatantly corrupt.

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 22:23

    wohoo! oh i’ve just seen Jeremy’s song in drop.io… it’s very sweet

    I'm glad you like it Lou. It was meant to help you get to sleep on the night before Goodwood.

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:23

    they're smelly.

    I'm tempted to talk about bats and balls. But them someone might mention cricket.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:24

    I'm glad you like it Lou. It was meant to help you get to sleep on the night before Goodwood.

    awww :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 22:24

    they're smelly.

    I'm tempted to talk about bats and balls. But them someone might mention cricket.

    Oh that's brilliant sir!

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:25

    The people from Skins have waisted 24 minutes of my life, i want them back.

    ALL of them

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 22:26

    Sam Bird?

    ahh that's it! thanks! am going to find out some more about him. he is a formula 3 or some series driver isn't he?

    We played his F3 game. I think it was something to to with BP

    This game? http://www.juggernart.com/games/free-online-racing-games/bp-ultimate-racing.html

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:27

    The people from Skins have waisted 24 minutes of my life, i want them back.

    ALL of them

    what's wrong with skins?/ what did they do?

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:27

    I'm sorely tempted to forget this and follow the Tour.....

    www.itv.com has got ITV4's daily one-hour update show streamable, presumably UK-only though. Today I watched Sunday and Monday's stages, tomorrow I'll catch Tues/Weds (which I have on DVR instead). I haven't seen the Tour for four years, and I've missed it.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:27

    what's wrong with skins?/ what did they do?

    i can deal with it usually.

    but this episode im watching is total and utter rubbish

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:28

    I haven't seen the Tour for four years, and I've missed it.

    It's like you were never away - Lance (almost) in yellow. That man is......a robot?

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 22:28

    how come i can’t find it??

    I answered you yesterday, but clearly you were too busy workin or sumfin... boo hoo hoo :P

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/07/07/daily-7th-july-2009/#comment-382400

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:28

    www.itv.com has got ITV4's daily one-hour update show streamable, presumably UK-only though. Today I watched Sunday and Monday's stages, tomorrow I'll catch Tues/Weds (which I have on DVR instead). I haven't seen the Tour for four years, and I've missed it.

    BTW they are available for 31 days after broadcast, so if you want to get up to speed from the start - do it! It started Saturday with an individual time trial around Monaco.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:28

    but this episode im watching is total and utter rubbish

    ohh, series 3? i didn't like the new characters much..

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:29

    what's wrong with skins?/ what did they do?

    i can deal with it usually.

    but this episode im watching is total and utter rubbish

    however, i take that all back. the annoying kid just got a bottle smashed on his head by Gareth from the office.

    my life is complete

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:29

    It's like you were never away - Lance (almost) in yellow. That man is......a robot?

    He's one reason I'm watching again.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:30

    Why did the FIA only award new entry to teams if they used Cosworth Engines. I think some very serious issues are going to be knocking on FIA's doors - they seem blatantly corrupt.

    They always have been blatantly corrupt. YOu have the 2005 deal with Ferrari where they get paid more than any other team and get a veto on any technology they don't like.

    You have Max saying at the vote of confidence saying if he won he would not stand again. He has changed his mind so many times I am surprised he hasn't screwed himself into the floor.

    He said that he had to win the vote because he was the only person who could re-negotiate the commercial rights deal. Of course that was a lie because he disqualified himself from the original negotiations on the grounds of conflict of interest. And of course despite it being vital that he won to re-negotitate the deal no re-negotiation has happened.

    You have Donnelly whose company is somehow involved with Manor and who removed Ferrari from their customer list just before his FIA position was announced. He is supposed to work with the stewards but isn't a steward but in SPa last year he did the driver interviews but the three stewards signed all the paper work.

    In the aftermath of that you had Charlie Whiting being proved to have blatantly lied at the international court of appeal but no action was taken against him by either the ICA or the FIA.

    The organisation is corrupt from top to bottom.

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:30

    I answered you yesterday, but clearly you were too busy workin or sumfin... boo hoo hoo :P

    soz. i have the attention span of a fish. i looked on the first page of drop.io and couldn't see it so gave up.

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 22:31

    OK. I'm uninstalling photoshop.

    Good man. :D

    Massively overpriced *even though I have bought a copy....*

    I still use Paint Shop Pro more than Photoshop.

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:31

    BTW they are available for 31 days after broadcast, so if you want to get up to speed from the start - do it! It started Saturday with an individual time trial around Monaco.

    Just one last word from me on it... Sunday was fairly routine but Monday was really interesting, very enjoyable.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:31

    That looks like the F3 game we played

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:32

    The organisation is corrupt from top to bottom.

    ...and so we are back to the question of whether FOTA will bother to stay with them. Great. 3 weeks wasted. Lucky Wimbledon was on!

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:32

    O.O looking at the five live tweets... is it just Ant Davidson?

    they just linked to - http://twitpic.com/9q65k

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/07/2009 at 22:32

    www.itv.com has got ITV4's daily one-hour update show streamable, presumably UK-only though. Today I watched Sunday and Monday's stages, tomorrow I'll catch Tues/Weds (which I have on DVR instead). I haven't seen the Tour for four years, and I've missed it.

    BTW they are available for 31 days after broadcast, so if you want to get up to speed from the start - do it! It started Saturday with an individual time trial around Monaco.

    Geolocked :(

    It's on TV lots here though - BIG interest because of Team Saxo (Danish?)

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:33

    O.O looking at the five live tweets... is it just Ant Davidson?

    they just linked to - http://twitpic.com/9q65k

    and holly.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:33

    O.O looking at the five live tweets... is it just Ant Davidson?

    they just linked to - http://twitpic.com/9q65k

    tis

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:33

    and holly.

    so... i mean are they doing the tweeting?

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:34

    ...and so we are back to the question of whether FOTA will bother to stay with them. Great. 3 weeks wasted. Lucky Wimbledon was on!

    Don't like tennis so I ignored it - but the Tour is also on for 3 weeks so that'll be a nice distraction :-)

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:34

    Don't like tennis so I ignored it - but the Tour is also on for 3 weeks so that'll be a nice distraction :-)

    Yep

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:34

    so... i mean are they doing the tweeting?

    "Just got to pull over as Crofty has to do a report on 5 Live "

    am guessing producer jason is driving and tweeting (although not at the same time)?

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:35

    ...and so we are back to the question of whether FOTA will bother to stay with them. Great. 3 weeks wasted. Lucky Wimbledon was on!

    Don't like tennis so I ignored it - but the Tour is also on for 3 weeks so that'll be a nice distraction :-)

    And then there's the cricket of course.

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:35

    And then there's the cricket of course.

    the what?

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:35

    so... i mean are they doing the tweeting?

    "Just got to pull over as Crofty has to do a report on 5 Live "

    am guessing producer jason is driving and tweeting (although not at the same time)?

    ahh sorry, i hadn't seen that tweet. sounds about right though.

  • Flibster08/07/2009 at 22:36

    The organisation is corrupt from top to bottom.

    Corrupt? Perhaps not entirely.

    Certainty not squeaky clean though.

    Perhaps a bit more corrupt than the members of parliament. ;)

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:37

    ahh sorry, i hadn't seen that tweet. sounds about right though.

    actually, looks like they're in two cars? another guess:

    - holly and ant in the porsche?

    - jason and croftie in whatever the black thing is?

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:38

    And then there's the cricket of course.

    the what?

    The trying to look like I'm doing work while following BBC live text updates.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:38

    actually, looks like they're in two cars? another guess:

    is this Jason the producer?

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:38

    actually, looks like they're in two cars? another guess:

    i give up. this is a pic of jason and holly. maybe they're all tweeting?

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:39

    is this Jason the producer?

    yup.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:39

    i give up. this is a pic of jason and holly. maybe they're all tweeting?

    i think they are trying to confuse us.

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:40

    i think they are trying to confuse us.

    just tweeted exactly that :)

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:41

    Just reading Joe's blog.

    Does Steven Roy know the chassis number of Theodore F1 cars?

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:42

    just tweeted exactly that :)

    "2 cars, Crofty and Ant in 1, Holly and Producer Jason in the other... Thats it, thats our team..."

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:42

    The trying to look like I'm doing work while following BBC live text updates.

    Oh no, what am I going to do on Friday? Will they have one text feed for F1 and one for cricket?

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:43

    "2 cars, Crofty and Ant in 1, Holly and Producer Jason in the other... Thats it, thats our team..."

    I have offered them a suitable alternative to their cars.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:43

    just tweeted exactly that :)

    "2 cars, Crofty and Ant in 1, Holly and Producer Jason in the other... Thats it, thats our team..."

    awesome! :) that makes sense, i'm loving their twit pic updates too :)

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:44

    Oh no, what am I going to do on Friday? Will they have one text feed for F1 and one for cricket?

    Don't worry - game should be pretty much over by then.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:44

    Does Steven Roy know the chassis number of Theodore F1 cars?

    No. Never got into the trainspoting aspects of motor racing

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:45

    No. Never got into the trainspoting aspects of motor racing

    Just checking. Apparently you're not an anorak then.

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:45

    awesome! :) that makes sense, i'm loving their twit pic updates too :)

    did lukeh just offer to swap a porche for a pack of rollo's?

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 22:46

    I have offered them a suitable alternative to their cars.

    Hah :-)

    That's a reference to something isn't it - I'm desperately trying to remember what it is

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:46

    did lukeh just offer to swap a porche for a pack of rollo's?

    They are obviously taking their team to discuss such a wild offer

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:46

    did lukeh just offer to swap a porche for a pack of rollo's?

    i'm not sure, i appear to be having a conversation with my imagination atm so maybe i'm not the best person to ask? :P

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:46

    i'm not sure, i appear to be having a conversation with my imagination atm so maybe i'm not the best person to ask? :P

    oops.

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:46

    They are obviously taking their team to discuss such a wild offer

    hehehehe.

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:47

    They are obviously taking their team to discuss such a wild offer

    Their time, even...

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:49

    Just checking. Apparently you're not an anorak then.

    Shame I don't meet the standard. Never mind.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:49

    i'm not sure, i appear to be having a conversation with my imagination atm so maybe i'm not the best person to ask? :P

    Are you hearing voices?

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:51

    Shame I don't meet the standard. Never mind.

    I am not sure who does - but in case you want to wear an anorak here is a link...

    http://www.statsf1.com/default.aspx?from=/constructeurs/modeles/liste.aspx?idConstructeur=96&LG=4

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:52

    Are you hearing voices?

    apparently so.

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:53

    I am not sure who does - but in case you want to wear an anorak here is a link...

    Hehe! Why am I not surprised someone came up with that info...

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:53

    apparently so.

    There is a cure for it. In the filter box at the top of the doohickey type -me and you won't hear them ever again.

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 22:53

    apparently so.

    It's OK. You need to worry if they start suggesting you go outside.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:54

    There is a cure for it. In the filter box at the top of the doohickey type -me and you won't hear them ever again.

    i kinda like the voices though... sometimes they are funny...

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:54

    It's OK. You need to worry if they start suggesting you go outside.

    okay, i'll alert the comments if they do ;)

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:55

    i kinda like the voices though... sometimes they are funny...

    has lou been drinking that pink drink again?

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:55

    I am not sure who does - but in case you want to wear an anorak here is a link...

    Those are only model numbers. Every individual car has a chassis number and there are people who keep logs of every time a chassis runs. They can tell you the chassis number of the car that Ronnie Peterson drove in the first practise session for the 1973 British GP

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:57

    has lou been drinking that pink drink again?

    milkshake?

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:57

    milkshake?

    the one that you and christine like ;)

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:57

    has lou been drinking that pink drink again?

    calpol?

  • Rich08/07/2009 at 22:57

    Those are only model numbers. Every individual car has a chassis number and there are people who keep logs of every time a chassis runs. They can tell you the chassis number of the car that Ronnie Peterson drove in the first practise session for the 1973 British GP

    It was only a link to start the search! Did not say it was the answer!

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:58

    calpol?

    :D

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:58

    has lou been drinking that pink drink again?

    no, i've not had any alchohol since monday (that sounds bad... it was just pimms and then rose... at our year's head master's formal dinner)

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:58

    calpol?

    i seriously used to love that when i was a kid

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 22:58

    Is calpol actually useful when ill? I just remember it being pink and yummy!

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:58

    calpol?

    I would rather drink calpol that the unnamed energy drink

  • lou08/07/2009 at 22:59

    milkshake?

    hmmm milkshake...

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 22:59

    It's OK. You need to worry if they start suggesting you go outside.

    I think Mr C goes outside all the time. He owns a car and has a job. It's all a conspiracy to keep us inside so we won't run into him in the street and know what he looks like. He has even refused to come to Australia citing some rubbish about time and money etc. I know you've been on a boat Mr C. I've seen pictures...

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 22:59

    no, i've not had any alchohol since monday (that sounds bad... it was just pimms and then rose... at our year's head master's formal dinner)

    aslong as you dont know exactly how many hours it is since your last drink then all is fine

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:59

    aslong as you dont know exactly how many hours it is since your last drink then all is fine

    i do. mine that is, not lou's.

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 22:59

    no, i've not had any alchohol since monday (that sounds bad... it was just pimms and then rose... at our year's head master's formal dinner)

    The school is serving alcohol to 17 year olds???

  • me08/07/2009 at 22:59

    I know you've been on a boat Mr C. I've seen pictures...

    :P

  • Steven Roy08/07/2009 at 23:00

    I think Mr C goes outside all the time. He owns a car and has a job. It's all a conspiracy to keep us inside so we won't run into him in the street and know what he looks like. He has even refused to come to Australia citing some rubbish about time and money etc. I know you've been on a boat Mr C. I've seen pictures...

    He is not likely to go on another boat after what happened the last time.

  • lou08/07/2009 at 23:00

    The school is serving alcohol to 17 year olds???

    a group of us may have erm... got our parents to get the pimms for us, and then had some of the rose that was on the dinner table. however the teachers said nothing. probably because our parents were there...

  • lou08/07/2009 at 23:01

    i do. mine that is, not lou's.

    haha :)

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 23:02

    I've seen pictures...

    There's a picture of Mr C? But I was convinced he's just a really clever auto-answering program!

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 23:02

    The school is serving alcohol to 17 year olds???

    I believe in a restaurant it is legal to serve it to 16 year olds if they accompanied by an adult. Presumably this was covered in the same way.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 23:03

    There's a picture of Mr C? But I was convinced he's just a really clever auto-answering program!

    really clever?

    ;)

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 23:03

    a group of us may have erm... got our parents to get the pimms for us, and then had some of the rose that was on the dinner table. however the teachers said nothing. probably because our parents were there...

    Pimms. Now there's a 17 year olds' drink.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 23:03

    I believe in a restaurant it is legal to serve it to 16 year olds if they accompanied by an adult. Presumably this was covered in the same way.

    with food, and only certain types

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 23:03

    really clever?

    OK, sometimes partially convincing.

  • me08/07/2009 at 23:05

    There's a picture of Mr C? But I was convinced he's just a really clever auto-answering program!

    my hand.

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 23:05

    with food, and only certain types

    Certain types of food or certain types of 16 year old? You don't want the chavs doing it obviously.

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 23:05

    Pimms. Now there's a 17 year olds' drink.

    Mr Pibb? Stick it in the fridge, Stick it in the fridge, Stick it in the fridge...

    (American Dad reference)

  • lou08/07/2009 at 23:05

    Pimms. Now there's a 17 year olds' drink.

    aha pimms is nice :)

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 23:05

    my hand.

    Sure. Your hand.

  • Jon Waldock08/07/2009 at 23:07

    my hand.

    scroll down....

    what do you find....a comment...

    hmmm

  • Lukeh08/07/2009 at 23:08

    Time to go I think. Night. *waves*

  • lou08/07/2009 at 23:08

    Time to go I think. Night. *waves*

    night lukeh

  • me08/07/2009 at 23:08

    Time to go I think. Night. *waves*

    see ya.

  • me08/07/2009 at 23:09

    what do you find....a comment...

    hehe. i stand by my "fia's got talent" reality tv suggestion.

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 23:09

    Mr Pibb? Stick it in the fridge, Stick it in the fridge, Stick it in the fridge...

    Aussie link: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=312045485&id=312045456&s=143460

    UK Link:

    http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=193063148&id=193063085&s=143444

  • Paul08/07/2009 at 23:10

    hehe. i stand by my "fia's got talent" reality tv suggestion.

    :D "fia's got a sense of humor?"

  • Jeremy08/07/2009 at 23:11

    I'd best get ready for work. See you all soon. I'm sure I'll come back to comments like "Oh, what an awesome G Love song" :P

  • Pat W08/07/2009 at 23:15

    Bye to those leaving.

    I've discovered the "Upload to YouTube" function in Picasa...

  • lou08/07/2009 at 23:46

    time for me to get some sleep. night all x

  • Journeyer09/07/2009 at 01:18

    Today's was cancelled due to website issues. So the plan for next week is a big quiz with double the questions, for a prize

    Good thing I skipped it then. Ooooh - a prize! I'll do my best to get it. :D

  • Aitch09/07/2009 at 03:11

    Also, Blues Brothers is legendary

    'Illinois Nazis.I hate Illinois Nazis':D Where's a bridge with Bernie and Max when you really want one:D

  • Alianora La Canta09/07/2009 at 11:14

    So F1 2010 currently looks like {Comment #330}

    It doesn't even look like that. If the entry list is invalid sufficient to make Ferrari no longer in the championship (i.e. contractual obligations and explicit agreements no longer suffice to be entered), then technically no teams at all are entered for 2010. Unless the FIA opens up the selection process again, then there will be no F1 in 2010 because there will be no teams in the championship - at all. Lots of court cases, but that's not quite the same thing...

  • Alianora La Canta09/07/2009 at 11:18

    Okay, while the FIA continue to play silly idiots here’s one to lighten the mood. Remember Mike Lawrence’s article about the Scotch Men? Well, he’s written a new article about Bernie which features the delightful quote “Sometimes, Bernie, the best policy is to say nothing. Saying nothing beats dealing in racial stereotypes.” (bottom half of page 4) {Comment #370}

    Is this an oblique apology from Mike, written to avoid the "climbdown" of apologising properly?

  • Alianora La Canta09/07/2009 at 11:21

    there are three new teams named for 2010. although there’s a distinct possibility that their selection may contravene all manner of EU competition laws {Comment #391}

    If the FIA tries letting them in without letting the FOTA teams in, then it will have broken even more laws (commercial bias confirmed plus breach of contractual obligations).

  • Paul09/07/2009 at 11:22

    If the FIA tries letting them in without letting the FOTA teams in, then it will have broken even more laws (commercial bias confirmed plus breach of contractual obligations).

    Surely they already did that in the past with Ferrari

  • Rich09/07/2009 at 11:33

    If the FIA tries letting them in without letting the FOTA teams in, then it will have broken even more laws (commercial bias confirmed plus breach of contractual obligations).

    The FIA put on its list that Ferrari and both Red Bull teams were unconditional entrants - so how can they say ALL EIGHT FOTA teams "are not currently entered into the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship". FOTA cannot negotiate with FIA because everything agreed upon gets reversed. The FIA through Max has to be in deep trouble, somebody now must take legal action against FIA for the numerous breaches of governance and EU law. CVC must be extremely nervous at the moment.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)09/07/2009 at 11:42

    Alia, do you know where the F1 Yearbook gets it's fuel figures from?

  • Alianora La Canta09/07/2009 at 12:11

    actually, things have changed.

    we’re several more months down the line, and significantly more fed up with f1. {Comment #392}

    And we're down to no teams in F1 next year instead of 10. Plus a viable replacement for Max Mosley has arrived, which hopefully will stem the tide of ridiculous decisions from the FIA.

  • Alianora La Canta09/07/2009 at 12:14

    Alia, do you know where the F1 Yearbook gets it’s fuel figures from? {Comment #809}

    To be honest? No. It appears to be original research on their part, but I couldn't even tell you if they've received telemetry from somewhere, had information given to them by teams or done an estimate. The figures seem to work very well though, apart from the Ferraris. Three of the four Ferrari-engined cars have significantly worse fuel consumption than the F1Y figure suggests.

  • Alianora La Canta09/07/2009 at 22:49

    theres a topic on its own……”What would you do with your weekend if not F1 ?” {Comment #449}

    That I don't already do in a weekend? Probably play a lot more Sims 2...

  • Alianora La Canta09/07/2009 at 22:52

    Nope it doesn’t say how, it just gives them and there are none for the Nurburgring since it wasn’t held last year {Comment #560}

    The 2007 one has the figures, though of course they are two years out of date and have been slightly adjusted accordingly. The Suzuka figures are slightly-adjusted 2006 ones for the same reason.