The big news of yesterday was about Silverstone and the fact that the future of the British Grand Prix is now secure. I am mostly happy about this news because it means we don't have to talk about any more deadlines. I like it when things get settled. Meanwhile, here are some of the other things we're talking about:

  • Stuart has made quite an impact on his blog already, with an excellent post about that age old problem - the so-called F1 journalist, that stays at home and lets everyone else do the hard work for them. The more we vote with our feet, the more influence we can all have.
  • The edited version of this weekend's F1 Debrief was posted yesterday, and we use the brand new Disco Dan theme tune as an outtro. Thanks to Nikki and her friend Julie Mahendran - there must be drinking and there must be disco.
  • Stefano Domenicali has been discussing how he thinks Ferrari might fare next year, and of course he's saying they'll do better than 2009. I don't see how they could do much worse really. It was a tricky car, and they had a lot of bad luck and troubles to keep their attention off improving the car. How will they do in 2010 though? How will Alonso fit in? Stefano says he'll be a breath of fresh air.

That's all for now. Let us know what you're doing today, and how your week is going so far, and as ever, I will see you in the comments.

1034 responses

  • Pinger08/12/2009 at 00:16

    PING

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:17

    Giggles Advent Calendar fact: 50% of windows start with the word 'So'

    [1st two & last two, so far]

    Worth repeating, for discussion

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 00:22

    helllo today! I have been at work for an hour already. Quickest hour ever!

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:23

    helllo today! I have been at work for an hour already. Quickest hour ever!

    It's almost noon, do you start that time every day?

    #luckysod

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 00:24

    Hi Amy

  • me08/12/2009 at 00:28

    sorry 'bout the scheduling issue. not sure if mentioned, but since removing wordpress from the front-end of the site, it means the faux-scheduler never fires.

    essentially what used to happen, is every time anyone requested any page, the first thing that happened was wordpress checked to see if there were timed posts waiting to be published and then made them public if need be.

    clearly this slowed down browsing and is part of the reason why the site is a bit faster now.

    i had no idea the scheduler wasn't a real one (they seem keen to keep it quiet), so now i has to write a proper one (tis on the list). in the meantime the only time the scheduler will run now is when spam is sent via the old wordpress pages. insane but true.

    luckily we get hundreds of spam a day, so posts will eventually appear, and i'll fix the issue asap.

    sorry.

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 00:29

    no, just the last two weeks i have been doing 1030-630. I dont like it, it makes me stay up til 4am and i dont get anything done! Tomorrow i am working 730-330 which is the shift i prefer. Hate getting out of bed but i like finishing while the sun is still out :D

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:30

    sorry.

    That would've been an ideal post from 'pinger' :D

    Thanks for the info though

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:31

    no, just the last two weeks i have been doing 1030-630. I dont like it, it makes me stay up til 4am and i dont get anything done!

    Welcome to [half of] my world!

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:33

    Am thinking of going without surname for the rest of this week and then make a final decision.

    [kinda preferring it, tbh]

  • Pinger08/12/2009 at 00:36

    Am thinking of going without surname for the rest of this week and then make a final decision.

    [kinda preferring it, tbh]

    And on that bombshell, i shall leave y'all.

    Night all

  • Pinger08/12/2009 at 00:36

    Night all

    ah. poo

  • me08/12/2009 at 00:36

    Am thinking of going without surname for the rest of this week and then make a final decision.

    [kinda preferring it, tbh]

    i like it. the catch is, what happens when another bassano come along?

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 00:36

    i like it clapper-less

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:36

    And on that bombshell, i shall leave y'all.

    Goodnight.... pinger

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 00:37

    Hmm.

    Night

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:37

    i like it. the catch is, what happens when another bassano come along?

    We'll have beers and work it out :)

  • me08/12/2009 at 00:37

    We'll have beers and work it out :)

    perfect.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:37

    Hmm.

    Night

    :D

    G'night Jonboy

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 00:38

    Night all

    ah. poo

    Night Jon

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:38

    i like it clapper-less

    The Clapper is still there, it's just silent (!)

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 00:38

    Am thinking of going without surname for the rest of this week and then make a final decision.

    [kinda preferring it, tbh]

    I can see it sticking. Gettign used to it now

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 00:42

    The Clapper is still there, it's just silent (!)

    :D

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:42

    I suppose today's revelation was Silverstone's 17 year deal

    What were the thoughts on the revised track layout?

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 00:44

    i am cold so i want to put my jacket on but my jacket is wet and thus makes me colder. Plus it smells like wet wool. Stupid rain.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 00:44

    I suppose today's revelation was Silverstone's 17 year deal

    What were the thoughts on the revised track layout?

    Seen it before but it could be interesting from the fan perspective (more sightlines), if not the driver perspective (loss of a challenging section).

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:45

    Seen it before but it could be interesting from the fan perspective (more sightlines), if not the driver perspective (loss of a challenging section).

    Unless the modified section will be for bikes and the current kept for cars/F1

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:46

    i am cold so i want to put my jacket on but my jacket is wet and thus makes me colder. Plus it smells like wet wool. Stupid rain.

    Has summer not arrived in Melbourne yet?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 00:47

    Unless the modified section will be for bikes and the current kept for cars/F1

    no they said if it is ready, they'll use it

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:50

    no they said if it is ready, they'll use it

    So is the new section just there to provide grandstand space?

  • me08/12/2009 at 00:53

    So is the new section just there to provide grandstand space?

    we were oddly discussing this last night. at the moment, there isn't many places to add seating. so my guess would be yes.

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 00:54

    summer arrived but we are having our one day of rain for the month today.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:54

    we were oddly discussing this last night. at the moment, there isn't many places to add seating. so my guess would be yes.

    That was my initail, cynical impression when I read the BBC story with track layout graphic

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 00:54

    So is the new section just there to provide grandstand space?

    Yeah they are providing either a stand or spectator banking on the inside and outside of the new corner, as well as giving those at Becketts something else to look at, they can now see two parts of the track.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:55

    summer arrived but we are having our one day of rain for the month today.

    I thought Melbourne was a bit wetter than that

    Oh well, never mind. It's been lashing down here for weeks

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 00:55

    I think originally they did it for MotoGP safety and the extra seating may be a bonus?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 00:56

    summer arrived but we are having our one day of rain for the month today.

    One day a month?

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:56

    I think originally they did it for MotoGP safety and the extra seating may be a bonus?

    What's so unsafe for bikes about the current layout?

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 00:57

    Steven, heard this earlier and thought you might know the answer:

    If a black hole got married, would it still be considered a singularity?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 00:59

    Steven, heard this earlier and thought you might know the answer:

    If a black hole got married, would it still be considered a singularity?

    If it got married to another blckhole they would both be a singularity

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 00:59

    What's so unsafe for bikes about the current layout?

    Not enough runoff at Bridge and Priory, I think?

    What remains unsaid is the runoff at Brooklands on what is currently the National straight, which is not big enough. I was at the BTCC round last year which used the National track and there were several cars in that gravel trap, and it was wet and they were reaching the barrier on the other side of the trap. The higher speeds of bikes and F1 cars will make that worse so I don't know what they'll do.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:00

    Not enough runoff at Bridge and Priory, I think?

    What remains unsaid is the runoff at Brooklands on what is currently the National straight, which is not big enough. I was at the BTCC round last year which used the National track and there were several cars in that gravel trap, and it was wet and they were reaching the barrier on the other side of the trap. The higher speeds of bikes and F1 cars will make that worse so I don't know what they'll do.

    I should add that it is fine for the current GP layout because the angle of approach and the approach speed is so different.

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 01:05

    silverstone has never been a circuit that says to me "you must fly to the other side of the world and see me!"

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:11

    silverstone has never been a circuit that says to me "you must fly to the other side of the world and see me!"

    It's flat and flat does not create the impact of somewhere like Spa.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:12

    silverstone has never been a circuit that says to me "you must fly to the other side of the world and see me!"

    It has never said to me "you must drive 2hrs to see me".

    I've been twice, once for an F1 test and one for BTCC. I wasn't inspired tbh.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:13

    It has never said to me "you must drive 2hrs to see me".

    I've been twice, once for an F1 test and one for BTCC. I wasn't inspired tbh.

    Apart from this year I've generally thought Silverstone produced great racing

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:14

    Apart from this year I've generally thought Silverstone produced great racing

    It's one of those circuits like the A1 Ring that doesn't lokk anything special but has way more than its share of great races.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:14

    Apart from this year I've generally thought Silverstone produced great racing

    It isn't a great place to visit though. I grant you my visits were coloured by circumstance - I was ill for one and it was grey and horrible for the other.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:15

    I'm not keen on a new design reducing the challenge of a great & classic circuit

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:15

    It isn't a great place to visit though. I grant you my visits were coloured by circumstance - I was ill for one and it was grey and horrible for the other.

    The food stands were better than Thruxton's though :-)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:16

    I'm not keen on a new design reducing the challenge of a great & classic circuit

    The current version has almost nothing to do with the classic layout. They have been messing with it since the 70s and in the 80s they made massive changes

  • me08/12/2009 at 01:16

    It isn't a great place to visit though. I grant you my visits were coloured by circumstance - I was ill for one and it was grey and horrible for the other.

    best time i had at silverstone was for testing, the first year i went. a slow wander around the perimeter, loads of vantage points. great to see cars tackle a variety of corners.

    gp weekends it's impossible to see much.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:17

    The food stands were better than Thruxton's though :-)

    See, i don't expect decent food at events like that. If it happens, it's a welcome bonus - like glastonbury

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:17

    I'm not keen on a new design reducing the challenge of a great & classic circuit

    That's how I felt at first, but I just saw the new stand they are building at the new corner. That'll be a fantastic place to watch. They created an overtaking place in front of your eyes, and you can see the Becketts section quite close too.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:18

    The current version has almost nothing to do with the classic layout. They have been messing with it since the 70s and in the 80s they made massive changes

    Ever evolving then

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 01:19

    melbourne is flat and i like our race but i think thats because they go out of their way to make it an "event." plus the weather appeals more than a grey english day ;) and it has a lake. Or something.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:19

    best time i had at silverstone was for testing, the first year i went. a slow wander around the perimeter, loads of vantage points. great to see cars tackle a variety of corners.

    I tagged along as the 'plus one' for a Red Bull thing. We got into the paddock, that bit was great! Then we were taken on a bus tour (the wrong way) around the perimeter, stopping at a couple of places. It was great to see the cars in different places before being herded on (a great place was the entry to Maggotts), there's just no getting around the fact it is a featureless flat airfield though.

  • me08/12/2009 at 01:20

    I tagged along as the 'plus one' for a Red Bull thing. We got into the paddock, that bit was great! Then we were taken on a bus tour (the wrong way) around the perimeter, stopping at a couple of places.

    which year out of interest?

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:20

    there's just no getting around the fact it is a featureless flat airfield though.

    I don't really care what a venue looks like if the racing is enthralling

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:20

    Ever evolving then

    I am not sure about that. They took it from a very high speed track to a track with lots of twiddly bits that add nothing. Stowe and Club used to be awesome corners and now they are nothing. The final twisty section is a ridiculous waste of tarmac. The only area they have improved is the Maggotts/Necketts complex

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:21

    Then at the touring car, I was just a paying punter and ventured into various stands. They are years out of date. They could get so many more people into the available space if they tried.

  • me08/12/2009 at 01:21

    there's just no getting around the fact it is a featureless flat airfield though.

    the first section yep, but not down to vale and back up to brooklands surely?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:22

    which year out of interest?

    2005

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:22

    the first section yep, but not down to vale and back up to brooklands surely?

    The modifications that created the vale section were done to add a little gradient change.

  • me08/12/2009 at 01:22

    The modifications that created the vale section were done to add a little gradient change.

    it's not little wen you walk it :)

  • me08/12/2009 at 01:23

    which year out of interest?

    2005

    ahh, i think mine was '07. passed a lot of hospitality busses though.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:23

    I am not sure about that. They took it from a very high speed track to a track with lots of twiddly bits that add nothing. Stowe and Club used to be awesome corners and now they are nothing. The final twisty section is a ridiculous waste of tarmac. The only area they have improved is the Maggotts/Necketts complex

    I watched the SEAT Cup from Luffield. It was great in some respects because you could see a lot of cars - but they were too slow and too far away!

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 01:26

    Back from Brisbane.

    And I hate Christmas shopping.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:26

    the first section yep, but not down to vale and back up to brooklands surely?

    Dunno. I was on a bus. I'm also referring to the surroundings. There was no atmosphere. Now I freely admit there would be atmosphere during the GP but some places have it already, without that...

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:26

    And I hate Christmas shopping.

    Ditto [have done none yet]

    Brisbane still full of bats?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:26

    Back from Brisbane.

    And I hate Christmas shopping.

    Hi.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:26

    Back from Brisbane.

    And Hi, Sean

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:27

    Brisbane still full of bats?

    Bats?

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:27

    Bats?

    Yup, quite lot, from memory

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 01:28

    I need to get to bed. I'm not sure where tonight has gone... Catch you tomorrow..

  • me08/12/2009 at 01:29

    I need to get to bed. I'm not sure where tonight has gone... Catch you tomorrow..

    night pat

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:29

    Night Pat

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:29

    I need to get to bed. I'm not sure where tonight has gone... Catch you tomorrow..

    G'night fella

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 01:31

    Brisbane still full of bats?

    No bats where I was. Theres a fair few down here in Sydney now though. Maybe they've migrated.

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 01:33

    So, after tallying up what I have bought on my first day of Christmas shopping I have presents for 1.5 people and I bought myself 10 things. I'm really bad at this.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:33

    No bats where I was. Theres a fair few down here in Sydney now though. Maybe they've migrated.

    I love how the harbour bridge lights are always swarming with bats in Sydney

    In Brisbane I stayed in a huge multi-level hostel next to the CBD with a rooftop BBQ area and at dusk we always saw tons of bats

  • me08/12/2009 at 01:33

    So, after tallying up what I have bought on my first day of Christmas shopping I have presents for 1.5 people and I bought myself 10 things. I'm really bad at this.

    :)

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 01:33

    if anyone asks, im not on my way to get a cheeseburger. #freepracticefastfood

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:33

    I'm really bad at this.

    Or really good, in the wrong way ;)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:34

    I had no idea that Australia was covered in bats

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:35

    I had no idea that Australia was covered in bats

    Most towns up the East Coast but those two places stood out for me

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 01:36

    I had no idea that Australia was covered in bats

    And just like everything else down here, they're deadly bats! ;)

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:36

    if anyone asks, im not on my way to get a cheeseburger. #freepracticefastfood

    Where aren't you going to, MacDonalds or Hungry Jacks?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:37

    And just like everything else down here, they're deadly bats! ;)

    I just assumed they were deadly when I found out they existed

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:37

    And just like everything else down here, they're deadly bats! ;)

    Do you guys still tell the American tourists about the 'Drop Bears' in the Botannical Gardens?

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 01:37

    Do you guys still tell the American tourists about the 'Drop Bears' in the Botannical Gardens?

    Yep. Americans are great, aren't they? ;)

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:37

    Do you guys still tell the American tourists about the 'Drop Bears' in the Botannical Gardens?

    Alleged [Rabid Koalas] :D

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:38

    Yep. Americans are great, aren't they? ;)

    I had a friend who'd tell them about Metric Time :lol:

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 01:39

    Do you guys still tell the American tourists about the 'Drop Bears' in the Botannical Gardens?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULEQpUY_crc

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:41

    Do you guys still tell the American tourists about the 'Drop Bears' in the Botannical Gardens?

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=ULEQpUY_crc

    I LOVE the Bundy Bear

    I had a T-shirt with him in [NSFW, or SPC]

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 01:43

    i refuse to refer to burger king as hungry jacks! Went to mcdonalds. Got a quarter pounder instead. Where is that free practice!

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:44

    i refuse to refer to burger king as hungry jacks! Went to mcdonalds. Got a quarter pounder instead. Where is that free practice!

    What free practice?

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:45

    i refuse to refer to burger king as hungry jacks! Went to mcdonalds. Got a quarter pounder instead. Where is that free practice!

    Whoever's racing, they're probably waiting for the weekend ;)

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 01:45

    i refuse to refer to burger king as hungry jacks! Went to mcdonalds. Got a quarter pounder instead. Where is that free practice!

    It's not even a Friday. :P

    Hi everyone.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 01:45

    Hi everyone.

    Hi Journeyer

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 01:46

    Hi everyone.

    Hello there.

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 01:47

    ill assume someone somewhere in the world is practicing something and so my lack of willpower is justified.

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 01:49

    Hello, everyone.

    We got an instant holiday today - just found out about it last Friday. :D Feast day of the city, same day as the Immaculate Conception.

    Not the best start to the day, though. My PC hanged overnight, so my torrent didn't finish last night. Worse, it's now downloading much slower than it was last night. Boo. :(

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 01:49

    ill assume someone somewhere in the world is practicing something and so my lack of willpower is justified.

    practicing how to dance, maybe. not racing. ;) :D

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 01:49

    ill assume someone somewhere in the world is practicing something and so my lack of willpower is justified.

    How about this?

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07122009/23/rossi-action-today-tomorrow.html

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:00

    rossi. Perfect. I am full and regretting my decision

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:01

    rossi. Perfect. I am full and regretting my decision

    Why regretting it?

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:02

    hooray our systems have crashed just as friends starts! I like not working when there is tv i want to watch on.

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:03

    hooray our systems have crashed just as friends starts! I like not working when there is tv i want to watch on.

    :D

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:03

    regretting because i am full and now im sleepy

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 02:03

    hooray our systems have crashed just as friends starts! I like not working when there is tv i want to watch on.

    Now you can go get another burger

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:04

    hooray our systems have crashed just as friends starts! I like not working when there is tv i want to watch on.

    Friends has become the new Star Trek. Somewhere in the wolrld at anytime, there is an episode currently showing

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:05

    regretting because i am full and now im sleepy

    well, at least there's no work at the moment. and there's Friends! :D

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:05

    Friends has become the new Star Trek. Somewhere in the world at anytime, there is an episode currently showing

    I've always thought of it that way ever since the show ended.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:08

    hooray our systems have crashed just as friends starts! I like not working when there is tv i want to watch on.

    Which episode?

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:11

    in the next 14 days friends is on 184 times on this channel. But its only about 20 episodes repeated over and over again.

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:12

    in the next 14 days friends is on 184 times on this channel. But its only about 20 episodes repeated over and over again.

    that's 4 days worth of TV - out of 14 days? :O

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:13

    todays episode is the one with the chick and the duck to be followed by the one with the screamer.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:13

    todays episode is the one with the chick and the duck to be followed by the one with the screamer.

    I always like the chick & the duck jokes

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:14

    technically its only 72 times, i forgot my search showed the results for the +2 timeshift channel as well :D

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:15

    technically its only 72 times, i forgot my search showed the results for the +2 timeshift channel as well :D

    36 hours, then - still a day and a half! :O

    My girlfriend would LOVE that channel though. :D

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:15

    technically its only 72 times, i forgot my search showed the results for the +2 timeshift channel as well :D

    There are +2 channels as well now

    Is that for people who tune into +1 too late?

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 02:17

    technically its only 72 times, i forgot my search showed the results for the +2 timeshift channel as well :D

    There are +2 channels as well now

    Is that for people who tune into +1 too late?

    We don't get +1 channels here. But almost every channel has a +2. It's their way of making it look like there are twice as many channels as there really are. LIES!

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:18

    its mostly for people who live in WA so they can still watch things in primetime.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:21

    Favourite random tweets of the day:

    Never forget Pearl Harbor. And how bad Ben Affleck was in it

    &

    Everyone at this wedding is all mad at me because the kids are sick, as if it's my fault these children can't hold their liquor

    http://favstar.fm/

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:21

    its mostly for people who live in WA so they can still watch things in primetime.

    Their fault for living in [or near] the remotest city in earth - Perth

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:22

    Never forget Pearl Harbor. And how bad Ben Affleck was in it.

    Kate Beckinsale was HOT there, though.

    Everyone at this wedding is all mad at me because the kids are sick, as if it's my fault these children can't hold their liquor

    :D

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:22

    We don't get +1 channels here. But almost every channel has a +2. It's their way of making it look like there are twice as many channels as there really are. LIES!

    It won't be long before we have the infomercial channel +1

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 02:22

    Kate Beckinsale was HOT there, though.

    As opposed to when? ;)

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:22

    Kate Beckinsale was HOT there, though.

    When is she not?

  • me08/12/2009 at 02:23

    not sure if this has been mentioned, but google have started live updating search results, like twitter:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/google-live-updating-png

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:23

    As opposed to when? ;)

    When is she not?

    Excellent points made, gentlemen. :D

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:23

    perth is further away than new zealand! And that is why i will never go there. If i have 3 hours spare to fly somewhere home will win every time.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:24

    not sure if this has been mentioned, but google have started live updating search results, like twitter:

    Humoungous *facepalm*

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 02:24

    perth is further away than new zealand! And that is why i will never go there. If i have 3 hours spare to fly somewhere home will win every time.

    I think they're on the same timezone as we are. ;)

    what's there to see in perth?

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 02:24

    perth is further away than new zealand! And that is why i will never go there. If i have 3 hours spare to fly somewhere home will win every time.

    Even if Perth was home I'd still pick NZ over WA.

  • me08/12/2009 at 02:25

    Humoungous *facepalm*

    huh?

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:25

    what's there to see in perth?

    Everone I know who has visited WA has raved about it

    But the short answer is 'I dunno'

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:26

    huh?

    Just Google and their... ways

    Beginning to irritate lately

  • me08/12/2009 at 02:28

    Just Google and their... ways

    Beginning to irritate lately

    ah. i quite likes it. here's a recent tweet from me:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/google-f1-live-search-png

    picked up instantly.

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 02:28

    what's there to see in perth?

    It's like a wannabe Sydney. They have a harbour thats nice, but not as nice, beaches that are nice but possibly not as nice. Sure, its less crowded but everything shuts at like 3pm so theres nothing to do. Even the pubs close at like 10 or something.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:29

    Even the pubs close at like 10 or something.

    Wha?

    How do Aussies stand for that?

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 02:30

    How do Aussies stand for that?

    Exactly. But we can claim that they are so far away that they aren't really Australians over there. ;) As Amy said, New Zealand is 2 hours closer to Sydney than Perth is.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:30

    ah. i quite likes it. here's a recent tweet from me:

    What search term do you use to find that?

  • me08/12/2009 at 02:31

    What search term do you use to find that?

    f1

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:31

    Exactly. But we can claim that they are so far away that they aren't really Australians over there. ;)

    And the fact that you have something actually called 'The Great Sandy Desert' in the middle still amuses me

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:32

    What search term do you use to find that?

    f1

    Wouldn't a twitter search find that, or is that a silly Q?

  • me08/12/2009 at 02:33

    Wouldn't a twitter search find that, or is that a silly Q?

    yup. but this searches twitter, facebook, jaiku and identi.ca.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:33

    yup. but this searches twitter, facebook, jaiku and identi.ca.

    Yeah ok, I'll let you have that one then ;)

  • me08/12/2009 at 02:35

    yup. but this searches twitter, facebook, jaiku and identi.ca.

    Yeah ok, I'll let you have that one then ;)

    am guessing it probably crashes less too.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:36

    am guessing it probably crashes less too.

    Maybe that's what took down Bing over the weekend

    [not a 'Friends' joke]

  • me08/12/2009 at 02:36

    Maybe that's what took down Bing over the weekend

    [not a 'Friends' joke]

    :D

  • Sean Golding08/12/2009 at 02:41

    Yuck. Remind me never to give my dog barbacue flavoured Shapes biscuits again. He's just vomited it back up.

  • jackie / saltire08/12/2009 at 02:46

    Yuck. Remind me never to give my dog barbacue flavoured Shapes biscuits again. He's just vomited it back up.

    Ewww

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 02:48

    i hate given up on tv because someone changed it to test cricket so im reading the book with the missing first page. Heart kindle pdf support. Heart AA.

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 02:49

    i hate given up on tv because someone changed it to test cricket so im reading the book with the missing first page. Heart kindle pdf support. Heart AA.

    I think my New Year's resolution will be to read that too

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 02:59

    #sidepodspace

    Branson and co have unveiled Virgin Galactic's space ship today.

    http://www.virgingalactic.com/news/

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 03:02

    Branson and co have unveiled Virgin Galactic's space ship today.

    Interesting stuff

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 03:10

    Branson and co have unveiled Virgin Galactic's space ship today.

    When are commercial flights estimated to begin, 2012 or so?

  • Bassano08/12/2009 at 03:17

    Sleeps time for me, bye night hawks

  • Jason Baker08/12/2009 at 03:35

    The Julie Mahendran link in both the Daily and the Debrief post are broken. Removing the slash at the end should make them work.

    #forchristine

    #formrc

  • Jason Baker08/12/2009 at 03:41

    The Julie Mahendran link in both the Daily and the Debrief post are broken. Removing the slash at the end should make them work.

    Enjoying the music!

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 04:26

    Just Google and their... ways

    Beginning to irritate lately

    I reaalllyyy like google alerts

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 06:29

    Giggles Advent Calendar fact: 50% of windows start with the word 'So'

    [1st two & last two, so far]

    Worth repeating, for discussion

    So that's weird.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 07:19

    Morning.

    Looks like Silverstone is going to get the touch of Tilke, at least by the way this layout looks: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80477

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 07:50

    Looks like Silverstone is going to get the touch of Tilke, at least by the way this layout looks: http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/80477

    not sure if this is a Tilke design, as this was designed originally for MotoGP.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 08:04

    Looks like Silverstone is going to get the touch of Tilke, at least by the way this layout looks: http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/80477

    not sure if this is a Tilke design, as this was designed originally for MotoGP.

    It's different to the MotoGP design. The old design linked the international cicuit to the national circuit, while this one seems to have some funny looking switchback instead of the arrow corner. It looks like the style of a Tilke change even if it isn't him.

  • F1Wolf08/12/2009 at 08:26

    have I missed anything other than the British GP news while I was offline since last Friday ?

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 08:37

    The Julie Mahendran link in both the Daily and the Debrief post are broken. Removing the slash at the end should make them work.

    Fixed, thanks Jason.

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 08:42

    So that's weird.

    Mr Giggles, today I had to demonstrate the kindle to four people and for all of them I used your book to demonstrate pdf support. And then I told them all they should buy it :D

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 08:53

    Morning all....

    Errrrm Alex? I have a confession to make.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 08:54

    I drove under a scary pink sky this morning: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/2009-12-08-07-46-49

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 08:59

    I drove under a scary pink sky this morning: http://drop.io...t/2009-12-08-07-46-49

    That's cool!

    It's dark here at the moment when I commute, but in a couple of months I get to see the sun rise and set when I cross the sea bridge that links the two islands here. It looks just like that and it's fantastic!

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:13

    Errrrm Alex? I have a confession to make.

    What's that?

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:13

    Mr Giggles, today I had to demonstrate the kindle to four people and for all of them I used your book to demonstrate pdf support. And then I told them all they should buy it :D

    Yay :)

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:13

    I drove under a scary pink sky this morning: http://drop.io...t/2009-12-08-07-46-49

    Oooh!

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 09:14

    What's that?

    I errrrm spilled milk all over your book and had to throw it in the bin this very morning. I will get a new one.... I considered drying it out but it was already starting to smell.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:15

    I errrrm spilled milk all over your book and had to throw it in the bin this very morning. I will get a new one.... I considered drying it out but it was already starting to smell.

    Oh noes! How awful!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:16

    What's that?

    I errrrm spilled milk all over your book and had to throw it in the bin this very morning. I will get a new one.... I considered drying it out but it was already starting to smell.

    The book with the smelly first page? Alex, there's the title for the sequel! ;)

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:16

    The book with the smelly first page? Alex, there's the title for the sequel! ;)

    heh :)

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:17

    I errrrm spilled milk all over your book and had to throw it in the bin this very morning. I will get a new one.... I considered drying it out but it was already starting to smell.

    Things not recommended for my book list just got a bit longer:

    * Folding down the corners of the pages

    * Spilling milk all over it

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 09:17

    Oh noes! How awful!

    It really was unsalvageable. Bad times....

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:18

    * Folding down the corners of the pages

    Why are you against it?

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 09:18

    Things not recommended for my book list just got a bit longer:

    Your book will soon need to come with an instruction manual!

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 09:18

    Why are you against it?

    Oh my god. Don't get into this again. It's just WRONG.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:18

    It is amazing how good the effect a can of Red Bull has - I am truly amazed every time I have one!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:20

    Why are you against it?

    Oh my god. Don't get into this again. It's just WRONG.

    Fair enough. I have bookmarks. My wife just leaves the book open pages down on the table instead. But then again, she only reads Mills and Boon and she chucks them afterwards so it's OK. She wouldn't read the Jackie Stewart book though :(

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:21

    It really was unsalvageable. Bad times....

    Milk really really stinks when it gets like that so I understand.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:22

    Fair enough. I have bookmarks. My wife just leaves the book open pages down on the table instead. But then again, she only reads Mills and Boon and she chucks them afterwards so it's OK. She wouldn't read the Jackie Stewart book though :(

    Yes... See Bookmarks...

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:22

    Your book will soon need to come with an instruction manual!

    Maybe one day I'll get a wiki page :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:22

    Yes... See Bookmarks...

    She refuses to use one - I have even bought and made one for her!

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:24

    She refuses to use one - I have even bought and made one for her!

    I bought one for Katherine the other day... But she has millions.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 09:25

    She refuses to use one - I have even bought and made one for her!

    Have you considered divorce? Some things are just a step too far...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:25

    Oh God. I got soaked watching that awful football game on Sunday night (we played like numptys so everyone left early) and as I feared, I am getting sick :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:25

    She refuses to use one - I have even bought and made one for her!

    Have you considered divorce? Some things are just a step too far...

    That's a bit harsh!

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 09:26

    She wouldn't read the Jackie Stewart book though :(

    I just finished Murray Walker's book. Did not like.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 09:26

    That's a bit harsh!

    I'm really not sure it is :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:27

    She wouldn't read the Jackie Stewart book though :(

    I just finished Murray Walker's book. Did not like.

    Which one? It's a bit of a let down because it's about him and not F1 - cynically he released another book called 'Murray Walker's F1 Heroes'...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:27

    That's a bit harsh!

    I'm really not sure it is :P

    Considering all we have been through and what she does for me, it is ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:28

    Which one? It's a bit of a let down because it's about him and not F1 - cynically he released another book called 'Murray Walker's F1 Heroes'...

    I should add that the bit I wanted to read about was an inside scoop on what life really was like in the F1 paddock, but he seemed to leave that out. He must have some stories!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:29

    Considering all we have been through and what she does for me, it is ;)

    I should add that she lets me do all my F1 stuff without complaint and even brings me Burger King or makes me Bagels when the race is on!

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 09:30

    Which one? It's a bit of a let down because it's about him and not F1 - cynically he released another book called 'Murray Walker's F1 Heroes'...

    Mmm. Not just that though. The advertising talk is interesting, but there wasn't much substance through the whole book.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 09:31

    I should add that she lets me do all my F1 stuff without complaint and even brings me Burger King or makes me Bagels when the race is on!

    Yum yum yum. Hehe I'm sure she's lovely. If someone touched my books though..... There'd be trouble.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:31

    Which one? It's a bit of a let down because it's about him and not F1 - cynically he released another book called 'Murray Walker's F1 Heroes'...

    Mmm. Not just that though. The advertising talk is interesting, but there wasn't much substance through the whole book.

    I'm inclined to agree. I think he's left a lot of things out that would have made the book very interesting...

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:31

    I'm inclined to agree. I think he's left a lot of things out that would have made the book very interesting...

    I think he's too nice to write the book he should have written.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:31

    I should add that she lets me do all my F1 stuff without complaint and even brings me Burger King or makes me Bagels when the race is on!

    Yum yum yum. Hehe I'm sure she's lovely. If someone touched my books though..... There'd be trouble.

    Oh she'll never read my books, you can be sure of that!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:32

    I'm inclined to agree. I think he's left a lot of things out that would have made the book very interesting...

    I think he's too nice to write the book he should have written.

    Yeah I think that's what I am trying to say. He was even nice about James Hunt, and they were famous for not getting on very well!

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:32

    I want to download dragon dictate for the iPhone but the server is overcapacity with everyone downloading it... http://www.dragonmobileapps.com/

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 09:33

    I'm inclined to agree. I think he's left a lot of things out that would have made the book very interesting...

    I found there was too much in there.

    The only bit I found interesting was when he talked about James Hunt because he really went into detail.

    Other than that it was - I went here, I did this. I worked in advertising, I went to South Africa, then I went to a race and talked a bit. I travelled the world, I worked for the BBC, I moved to ITV.

    I know these facts, I want to know how he feels about them. I wasn't looking for gossip, but I was still disappointed.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 09:34

    Yeah I think that's what I am trying to say. He was even nice about James Hunt, and they were famous for not getting on very well!

    I wouldn't say he was nice about him. He was respectful.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:37

    Yeah I think that's what I am trying to say. He was even nice about James Hunt, and they were famous for not getting on very well!

    I wouldn't say he was nice about him. He was respectful.

    I have forgotton what he said exactly because it's been about 7 years since I read it - but yes I got the impression that he was being respectful towards him even though he may not have liked or understood him.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:38

    I know these facts, I want to know how he feels about them. I wasn't looking for gossip, but I was still disappointed.

    That's it... That's it entirely. He didn't seem to particularly care about the things he was talking about. Which made it harder to care about what he was talking about. Or something.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:39

    I'm inclined to agree. I think he's left a lot of things out that would have made the book very interesting...

    I found there was too much in there.

    The only bit I found interesting was when he talked about James Hunt because he really went into detail.

    Other than that it was - I went here, I did this. I worked in advertising, I went to South Africa, then I went to a race and talked a bit. I travelled the world, I worked for the BBC, I moved to ITV.

    I know these facts, I want to know how he feels about them. I wasn't looking for gossip, but I was still disappointed.

    Exactly - it's a log rather than a diary of his thoughts in that respect. I mean that he may have left a lot of thoughts or stories out because they may have been too naughty or revealing to those involved, which is a shame really...

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:43

    Oooh Christine this looks like a fun app for android users: http://www.google.com/mobile/goggles/#landmark

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 09:44

    Oooh Christine this looks like a fun app for android users: http://www.goo...ile/goggles/#landmark

    Ooooh, I will have to test that out later. Sadly I have no Golden Gate Bridges near me, but I might be able to find a logo.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:46

    Ooooh, I will have to test that out later. Sadly I have no Golden Gate Bridges near me, but I might be able to find a logo.

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:46

    Oooh Christine this looks like a fun app for android users: http://www.goo...ile/goggles/#landmark

    Ooooh, I will have to test that out later. Sadly I have no Golden Gate Bridges near me, but I might be able to find a logo.

    Surely there's a Chinese Restaurant with the same name where you live? ;)

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 09:47

    Ooooh, I will have to test that out later. Sadly I have no Golden Gate Bridges near me, but I might be able to find a logo.

    Is this what the scouts or girl guides meant when they said "be prepared". Always keep a golden gate bridge in your back pocket.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 09:48

    Oooh Christine this looks like a fun app for android users: http://www.goo...ile/goggles/#landmark

    I thought Google Goggles was that drunken emailing thing?

  • Dank08/12/2009 at 09:53

    Oooh Christine this looks like a fun app for android users: http://www.goo...ile/goggles/#landmark

    I <3 my HTC Magic every day. :-D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 09:55

    Oooh Christine this looks like a fun app for android users: http://www.goo...ile/goggles/#landmark

    I <3 my HTC Magic every day. :-D

    Oooh I've had a bad experience with HTC ... but then it was running Windows ;)

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 10:05

    Morning all.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 10:06

    Morning all.

    Morning Lukeh. How goes it?

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 10:18

    Morning Lukeh. How goes it?

    Not too bad. It's not Monday which is always good ;) but lots of assignment work ahead.

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 11:32

    In the spirit of brangelina and tomkat, I name thee Loukeh. Or am I too late?

  • me08/12/2009 at 11:32

    In the spirit of brangelina and tomkat, I name thee Loukeh. Or am I too late?

    heeeeeheheheh!!

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 11:33

    Isn't tantamount to treason to say anything vaguely like criticism of Murray Walker?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 11:40

    Isn't tantamount to treason to say anything vaguely like criticism of Murray Walker?

    Maybe, but I have noticed a lot more criticism of him in the last few years...

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 11:46

    Isn't tantamount to treason to say anything vaguely like criticism of Murray Walker?

    Is it?

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 11:49

    In the spirit of brangelina and tomkat, I name thee Loukeh. Or am I too late?

    why oh why did I laugh

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 11:49

    In the spirit of brangelina and tomkat, I name thee Loukeh. Or am I too late?

    Surely LuLou would be better?

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 11:50

    Is it?

    I got the impression you couldn't say anything bad about 'our Murray' (not that I'm included in that 'our')

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 11:51

    Surely LuLou would be better?

    Like that. Conflicted now!

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 11:52

    Surely LuLou would be better?

    and to think of the effort I went to get that season review in as quick as possible!

    Although it is funny. Damn. Now I'm conflicted too.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 11:53

    and to think of the effort I went to get that season review in as quick as possible!

    Hehehe. Hey, I just like playing with words, Mr C is the one planning your wedding.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 11:54

    I got the impression you couldn't say anything bad about 'our Murray' (not that I'm included in that 'our')

    Could be. Doesn't make me think any less of him, I just didn't like his book.

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 11:57

    Zoe and I are back to talking about baby boy names since I mentioned the Loukeh thing. Why can't I keep my mouth shut?

    I am not allowed to have Brock. She doesn't seem keen on Bond (just Bond) either

    #notexpecting

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 11:58

    Hehehe. Hey, I just like playing with words, Mr C is the one planning your wedding.

    Haha, very true!

    One day I'm gonna end up leaving my laptop free in the living room and mum'll take a gander, as she does, and read about lou and myself getting married in a factory to much confusion and discussion :)

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:03

    One day I'm gonna end up leaving my laptop free in the living room and mum'll take a gander, as she does, and read about lou and myself getting married in a factory to much confusion and discussion :)

    That would be a slightly awkward conversation, but you can always #blame someone else. :)

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:06

    That would be a slightly awkward conversation, but you can always #blame someone else. :)

    "Mum: Explain yourself...

    Me: ...hashtag blame sidepodcast.

    Mum: ......?!"

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:07

    I wake in a daze to try and work out how to say hashtags....but now my question is answered....dont try

    "Mum: Explain yourself...

    Me: ...hashtag blame sidepodcast.

    Mum: ......?!"

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:10

    I just Google Translated a tweet from di licious and apparently it says:

    "Already begun the day on the run .. I need a vacation."

    He's on the run!! There must be some headlines in this.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 12:11

    I just Google Translated a tweet from di licious and apparently it says:

    "Already begun the day on the run .. I need a vacation."

    He's on the run!! There must be some headlines in this.

    He's earning money as a Getaway driver during the off season?

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 12:14

    In the spirit of brangelina and tomkat, I name thee Loukeh. Or am I too late?

    Surely LuLou would be better?

    both are excellent choices!

    But how about Nick and Alison? :D

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:15

    He's earning money as a Getaway driver during the off season?

    I wouldn't have thought he was fast enough for that!

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 12:15

    He's on the run!! There must be some headlines in this.

    someone might just actually try to make one. Hehe.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:16

    But how about Nick and Alison? :D

    Nickason.

    Sounds like a dodgy business enterprise to me

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:16

    But how about Nick and Alison? :D

    Nison?

    Alick?

    Aick?

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:16

    I just Google Translated a tweet from di licious and apparently it says:

    do you mean Lucas Di Grassy Knoll? Because di_licious doesn't seem to be f1 related

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 12:17

    Nison?

    Alick?

    Aick?

    alisonick?

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:17

    do you mean Lucas Di Grassy Knoll? Because di_licious doesn't seem to be f1 related

    But he's delicious.

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:17

    alisonick?

    oooh good use of N

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 12:19

    oooh good use of N

    mr C must be so happy his real name isn't public. Heh!

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:20

    mr C must be so happy his real name isn't public. Heh!

    *Wonders how to combine 'me' and 'Christine'*

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:21

    *Wonders how to combine 'me' and 'Christine'*

    Christime

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:22

    *Wonders how to combine 'me' and 'Christine'*

    Christmene?

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 12:22

    But he's delicious.

    even more so than Franck?

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:22

    Christime

    hoorah, thats what came to my head too

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:22

    even more so than Franck?

    He is more delicious than Franck, yes. But I do not heart him.

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:22

    But he's delicious.

    groove is in the heart? By Dee-Lite. The lyrics fit somehow

    do you get the 'tall jan is malicious' crunchy nut cornflakes ads over there? I hear it in my head everytime anyone says the word delicious, but it won't make sense if you haven't seen the ad

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 12:23

    Random thought: Zoeremy.

    I'm on a roll! I think.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:23

    even more so than Franck?

    I get the feeling this is all like movies - that franck is the original, the one that simply cannot be beaten. Declisious is a sequel that may have nicer special effects but in truth you know you cannot heart it as much

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:23

    Random thought: Zoeremy.

    Jonbi

    I win ;)

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 12:24

    Jonbi

    Jon and who?

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:24

    Jon and who?

    Abi

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:24

    http://twitter.com/Greggsthebakers

    WOAH

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:25

    WOAH

    That-is-awesome

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:25

    Random thought: Zoeremy.

    but we are zoejay!

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 12:27

    but we are zoejay!

    you actually named yourselves?

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:27

    http://twitter.com/Greggsthebakers

    Oooooh.

    You know the next step is sausage rolls via the interwebs. Yum yum.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:28

    You know the next step is sausage rolls via the interwebs. Yum yum.

    I may have to ask them to DM me some yummy sausage rolls

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 12:28

    http://twitter.com/Greggsthebakers

    Funny that they had an impersonator!

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:29

    Funny that they had an impersonator!

    Now that is blasphemy! How dare someone impersonate greggs, treason at its worst

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 12:31

    Funny that they had an impersonator!

    Now that is blasphemy! How dare someone impersonate greggs, treason at its worst

    There you go Jeremy - it's ok to criticize Murray but don't touch Greggs!

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:31

    you actually named yourselves?

    so many times and with so many variations, it hurts.

    We may also be considering changing both our surnames to Fox when we get married rather than Zoe adopting mine. Seems only fair that we both change

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 12:32

    We may also be considering changing both our surnames to Fox when we get married rather than Zoe adopting mine. Seems only fair that we both change

    Why Fox?

  • Alianora La Canta08/12/2009 at 12:34

    I think it might be a good idea to edit my podcast before submitting it for the Megamix - or at least change its format. My PDA reckons that in WAV format (the only one it can record in), the files come out at 326MB in total...

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:35

    I think it might be a good idea to edit my podcast before submitting it for the Megamix - or at least change its format. My PDA reckons that in WAV format (the only one it can record in), the files come out at 326MB in total...

    WAV's are alot bigger than mp3's though, so it may not be *as* big

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 12:35

    I think it might be a good idea to edit my podcast before submitting it for the Megamix - or at least change its format. My PDA reckons that in WAV format (the only one it can record in), the files come out at 326MB in total...

    Can you not convert to MP3? I am planning to record in clip format too I think...

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:35

    We may also be considering changing both our surnames to Fox when we get married rather than Zoe adopting mine. Seems only fair that we both change

    Do you happen to be thinking of getting married at the Williams Conference Centre?

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:36

    Why Fox?

    because then my name will be Michael J Fox. We both agreed it was a cool last name as well. I'm still pushing to name our hypothetical son: Brock Ayrton Fox

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:36

    Do you happen to be thinking of getting married at the Williams Conference Centre?

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 12:37

    Why Fox?

    because then my name will be Michael J Fox. We both agreed it was a cool last name as well. I'm still pushing to name our hypothetical son: Brock Ayrton Fox

    How can you be Michael and Jeremy? You must get yourself confused an awful lot ;)

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:37

    Do you happen to be thinking of getting married at the Williams Conference Centre?

    I'm pushing for it, but I get the same response as trying to get the name Brock across the line

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:38

    because then my name will be Michael J Fox.

    That is brilliant.

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:38

    How can you be Michael and Jeremy? You must get yourself confused an awful lot ;)

    I'm not sure Mr C goes round calling himself "me"

    Although if he does that would make my day

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:39

    I'm not sure Mr C goes round calling himself "me"

    He does refer to himself as Mr C, though.

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:39

    How can you be Michael and Jeremy? You must get yourself confused an awful lot ;)

    my dads name was Michael. I get to use my middle name instead. I wouldn't recommend it though - bloody annoying when filling out official forms

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:40

    He does refer to himself as Mr C, though.

    in actual public?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 12:41

    How can you be Michael and Jeremy? You must get yourself confused an awful lot ;)

    my dads name was Michael. I get to use my middle name instead. I wouldn't recommend it though - bloody annoying when filling out official forms

    I see. Both my Dad and I have the same middle name because both our Dads have a first name beginning with 'G'!

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:42

    in actual public?

    Oh. Dunno. We don't go out in public :)

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:42

    I see. Both my Dad and I have the same middle name because both our Dads have a first name beginning with 'G'!

    I think they should have called you Gordon ;)

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:42

    Oh. Dunno. We don't go out in public :)

    ah yes

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:42

    That is brilliant.

    yay! I feel much less crazy now

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 12:42

    I think they should have called you Gordon ;)

    That's my Uncle and my Grandad's name though...

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:43

    Oh. Dunno. We don't go out in public :)

    Outside be a terrifying place. One should only travel outside for emergencies, and Greggs

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:43

    That's my Uncle and my Grandad's name though...

    Hoorah!

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:43

    Outside be a terrifying place. One should only travel outside for emergencies, and Greggs

    + White Chocolate + Harribo

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:45

    + White Chocolate + Harribo

    +work. I like work. Feeling crazy again :P

    sleep may cure it. Bye all!

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:45

    sleep may cure it. Bye all!

    lets hope so ;) im outside in a bit, but only to go inside again!

    Byeee Mr Fox

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:48

    Byeee Mr Fox

    ooh. I like that.

    I am a manther now, one day I will graduate to silver fox!

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:48

    ooh. I like that.

    Fantastic Mr Fox.

  • me08/12/2009 at 12:51

    He does refer to himself as Mr C, though.

    in actual public?

    i seem to have taken to introducing myself as "sidepodcast" when meeting f1 people. i need to stop that.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:53

    i seem to have taken to introducing myself as "sidepodcast" when meeting f1 people. i need to stop that.

    You are missing the key word "from"

  • me08/12/2009 at 12:54

    You are missing the key word "from"

    true.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 12:55

    I was almost tempted to go outside and celebrate Greggs being on Twitter with a quick visit... but it is raining.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:56

    I was almost tempted to go outside and celebrate Greggs being on Twitter with a quick visit... but it is raining.

    I once went to Greggs in a thunderstorm

    #dedication

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 12:56

    #dedication

    #addiction ;)

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 12:57

    #addiction ;)

    Well I had to get some lunch at work

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 12:58

    RIP John Lennon

    #nothere

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 13:02

    Swim time pour moi

    Adios

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 13:12

    Thanks Alex, Dragon Dictate for iPhone is amazing!

    I really am going to bed, I'll just put that load of washing on...

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 13:17

    I braved the outside. I am dedicated too.

    Or hungry.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 13:19

    Or hungry.

    L'orealGreggs; because they're worth it.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 13:20

    I braved the outside. I am dedicated too.

    Or hungry.

    We had Lasagne for lunch today.

    Except it had grated carrots in it. And it was made of chicken :(

  • fAlex Andronov08/12/2009 at 13:29

    because then my name will be Michael J Fox. We both agreed it was a cool last name as well. I'm still pushing to name our hypothetical son: Brock Ayrton Fox

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 13:29

    fAlex? Fake Alex? What did you do with the real one?

  • fAlex Andronov08/12/2009 at 13:30

    fAlex? Fake Alex? What did you do with the real one?

    Arrgh!

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 13:30

    Phew I'm back peoples!

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 13:33

    I have realised the milk took more victims :( :( :(

    Stupid carton!!!!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 13:34

    I have realised the milk took more victims :( :( :(

    Stupid carton!!!!

    Oh God! What now???

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 13:34

    I have realised the milk took more victims :( :( :(

    Stupid carton!!!!

    Maybe you should forgo milk for a while?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 13:35

    I have realised the milk took more victims :( :( :(

    Stupid carton!!!!

    Maybe you should forgo milk for a while?

    I think she's Lactose intolerant ;)

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 13:36

    Oh God! What now???

    My newspaper that I was just sitting down to read and my rug. The rug is slightly more hassle as I'm going to have to actually wash it....

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 13:37

    I think she's Lactose intolerant ;)

    Hahaha aren't you hillarious. This was soya milk.... I spilled it on these things this morning at the same time as the book. I just hadn't noticed until now. It's smelly.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 13:39

    Hahaha aren't you hillarious?

    I'm here all week ;)

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 13:40

    Pick on the ill person why don't you :(

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 13:41

    Pick on the ill person why don't you :(

    Poor Alison :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 13:42

    Pick on the ill person why don't you :(

    Oh poor Alison, you never give anyone stick do you? ;)

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 13:42

    Ferrari are called Team Wales on the f1 BATracer carset now...!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 13:45

    Ferrari are called Team Wales on the f1 BATracer carset now...!

    You wha...?

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 13:46

    You wha...?

    They changed all the team names because of the ferrari debacle

  • Alianora La Canta08/12/2009 at 13:47

    Can you not convert to MP3? I am planning to record in clip format too I think... {Comment #279}

    I can, but I've got to get it onto my PC first (because it doesn't seem to understand the concept of microphones) and it's taken over an hour so far...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 13:49

    You wha...?

    They changed all the team names because of the ferrari debacle

    Can you give us a list of the new names then?

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 13:50

    Can you give us a list of the new names then?

    Just seen someone mention it on twitter. BATracer isnt accessible from my uni (for some reason?)

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 13:51

    Hahaha aren't you hillarious?

    I'm here all week ;)

    I've heard the steak is a bit tough though

  • Alianora La Canta08/12/2009 at 13:51

    Ferrari are called Team Wales on the f1 BATracer carset now...! {Comment #330}

    Probably the nearest Wales will get to its own F1 team.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 13:52

    I've heard the steak is a bit tough though

    tip your waitresses

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 13:53

    Is it normal for tweets to appear from people you don't follow and that haven't been retweeted?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 13:54

    hi btw

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 13:56

    Is it normal for tweets to appear from people you don't follow and that haven't been retweeted?

    Apparently so. I had one the other day which was marked as being from FriendFeed, despite my not having an account with them or following the person it came from.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 13:59

    Is it normal for tweets to appear from people you don't follow and that haven't been retweeted?

    Ummm... No... I don't think so... Was it glinner I just retweeted that.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 14:00

    Ummm... No... I don't think so... Was it glinner I just retweeted that.

    Nope, I see that one - retweeted by alexandronov and 33 others.

    Popular tweet!

    It's another one. Looks like spam to me, I take a screenshot.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 14:01

    Nope, I see that one - retweeted by alexandronov and 33 others.

    Ah oddd.... Looks like twitter is about to keel over actually the more button just broke for me.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 14:02

    It's another one. Looks like spam to me, I take a screenshot.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/spamtweets-png

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 14:02

    It's another one. Looks like spam to me, I take a screenshot.

    http://drop.io.../asset/spamtweets-png

    That's gotta be the ham in the can!

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 14:04

    That's gotta be the ham in the can!

    I figured as much. I don't understand how. Am not at all impressed.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 14:04

    That's gotta be the ham in the can!

    I figured as much. I don't understand how. Am not at all impressed.

    Is this the start of the end of twitter?

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 14:06

    Is this the start of the end of twitter?

    For me, yes.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 14:06

    I figured as much. I don't understand how. Am not at all impressed.

    that user has a very very weird profile. It follows hardly anyone and it has more than 8 thousand followers.

    My guess is something you have given your twitter password to is using the API to make you follow a user... making a tweet and then setting you to unfollow them. It's sneaky because you don't get an e-mail when you follow somebody.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 14:07

    I think you should report them for spam.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 14:14

    I think you should report them for spam.

    Nah. I give up. There's only so much I can put up with :)

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 14:15

    Nah. I give up. There's only so much I can put up with :)

    Absolutely... Just out of interest... If you can bear it can you tell me if you have any apps in here: http://twitter.com/account/connections

  • Alianora La Canta08/12/2009 at 14:16

    Is it normal for tweets to appear from people you don't follow and that haven't been retweeted? {Comment #339

    Never heard of it before... ...must look out for that.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 14:22

    Absolutely... Just out of interest... If you can bear it can you tell me if you have any apps in here: http://twitter.com/account/connections

    No applications have been approved to use your account.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 14:23

    Absolutely... Just out of interest... If you can bear it can you tell me if you have any apps in here: http://twitter.com/account/connections

    No applications have been approved to use your account.

    Then change your twitter password NOW just in case...

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 14:25

    No applications have been approved to use your account.

    Oh... Twitter FAIL

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 14:55

    Is it normal for tweets to appear from people you don't follow and that haven't been retweeted? {Comment #339

    Never heard of it before... ...must look out for that.

    Friend of mine got some twitter spam like the original comment is describing. Wonder what's going on (I just got into the office)

  • me08/12/2009 at 14:59

    Oh... Twitter FAIL

    love this quote:

    "See if you can figure out a way to ask a question of anyone at Twitter. They are an anti-social social networking site."

    :)

    http://dscriber.com/home/729-twitter-phishing-tweet-hack-hacker.html

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 15:01

    "See if you can figure out a way to ask a question of anyone at Twitter. They are an anti-social social networking site."

    "We’ve tried smoke signals with similar results."

  • Alianora La Canta08/12/2009 at 15:02

    My podcast finished copying over to my PC about five minutes ago, in case anyone's interested in a progress report. Now to load up Audacity and take out the errors and unnecessary pauses.

    Incidentally, Mum heard me talking and apparently thought I was having a lengthy phone call with someone. Which would be a bit strange because I can't remember the last time I spent 45 minutes on the phone. She was relieved to hear it was only a podcast and there wasn't going to be a humongous bill arriving at home any time soon...

  • me08/12/2009 at 15:03

    "We’ve tried smoke signals with similar results."

    love it.

    how the chuff did they ever get to be so successful?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 15:03

    how the chuff did they ever get to be so successful?

    Ask MediaTemple ;)

  • me08/12/2009 at 15:05

    Ask MediaTemple ;)

    that's easy. mediatemple are crazy cheap. when we move, our bills are only going to go one way. but you get the service you pay for.

    with twitter there are other free alternatives available. i don't get it.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 15:05

    "See if you can figure out a way to ask a question of anyone at Twitter. They are an anti-social social networking site."

    too busy worrying about staying up for a day without a problem see

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 15:08

    with twitter there are other free alternatives available. i don't get it.

    I'm going back to identica :)

  • me08/12/2009 at 15:08

    I'm going back to identica :)

    their homepage is ace now. however, no tweetdeck :(

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 15:08

    I have discovered that fitting loft insulation is not a cure to a splitting headache....

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 15:09

    their homepage is ace now. however, no tweetdeck :(

    Twhirl?

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 15:09

    their homepage is ace now. however, no tweetdeck :(

    It updates automatically!

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 15:09

    although it doesnt support lists...

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 15:10

    Oh poor Alison, you never give anyone stick do you? ;)

    Booooooo!!

  • me08/12/2009 at 15:11

    Twhirl?

    discontinued.

  • me08/12/2009 at 15:11

    It updates automatically!

    doohickey-esque.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 15:12

    too busy worrying about staying up for a day without a problem see

    Twitter should have been blown up a long time ago and redone properly.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 15:14

    It updates automatically!

    doohickey-esque.

    Ya know... you guys could run your own laconica server...

    ;)

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 15:15

    Ya know... you guys could run your own laconica server...

    We haz a doohickey!

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 15:16

    with twitter there are other free alternatives available. i don't get it.

    i blame celebrities. and their pull on the rest of the world.

    incidentally, Tiger has been in the Top 3 trending topics for the last few hours now...

  • me08/12/2009 at 15:18

    incidentally, Tiger has been in the Top 3 trending topics for the last few hours now...

    am wondering if people might stop comparing hamilton to him now?

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 15:18

    We haz a doohickey!

    Needz moar doohickey!

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 15:18

    incidentally, Tiger has been in the Top 3 trending topics for the last few hours now...

    Eye of the...?

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 15:19

    am wondering if people might stop comparing hamilton to him now?

    hmmm. yeah. unless lewis ends up doing the same thing, of course...

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 15:21

    hmmm. yeah. unless lewis ends up doing the same thing, of course...

    Well, Tiger's wife beat him up with a "tool of his trade", so to speak... I think if Lewis were to cheat his gf should beat him up with one of those stickered ferrari wheel covers :D

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 15:22

    hmmm. yeah. unless lewis ends up doing the same thing, of course...

    Why do I keep reading whitmarsh saying Lewis and Jenson will work as a team anyways? Why does Whitmarsh need to keep telling us?

  • me08/12/2009 at 15:23

    Why do I keep reading whitmarsh saying Lewis and Jenson will work as a team anyways? Why does Whitmarsh need to keep telling us?

    isn't he telling the media not to even think about writing the opposite?

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 15:24

    Afternoon all.

    What's going on?

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 15:24

    Why do I keep reading whitmarsh saying Lewis and Jenson will work as a team anyways? Why does Whitmarsh need to keep telling us?

    this is starting to look like the time Ron had a very public conversation with Alonso at the Bahrain paddock in 2007 - trying to send a very public message.

    and just like last time, it could all so easily backfire.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 15:24

    Why do I keep reading whitmarsh saying Lewis and Jenson will work as a team anyways? Why does Whitmarsh need to keep telling us?

    Positive thinking, innit? If you keep telling yourself something will be alright, it's supposed to be alright.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 15:25

    isn't he telling the media not to even think about writing the opposite?

    sure but I've seen autosport report it several times in the last few weeks, I don't see why he has to keep telling people what is gonna happen.

    Plus I refuse to believe the man is psychic ;)

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 15:25

    with twitter there are other free alternatives available. i don't get it.

    #blamebbcwebsite?

  • Kathi08/12/2009 at 15:27

    Afternoon all.

    afternoon. How's Monaco?

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 15:27

    isn't he telling the media not to even think about writing the opposite?

    Like some sort of neuro-linguistic programming jive?

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 15:29

    How's Monaco?

    Much nicer than last year. Finding the Forum was a cinch. I just go down a lift, walk down a slope, walk down some steps, walk down another slope, cross a road, take another lift, walk down another slope, cross a road, and Bob's your uncle.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 15:30

    Much nicer than last year. Finding the Forum was a cinch. I just go down a lift, walk down a slope, walk down some steps, walk down another slope, cross a road, take another lift, walk down another slope, cross a road, and Bob's your uncle.

    Coming back sounds quite uphill.

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 15:30

    Afternoon alll

  • me08/12/2009 at 15:34

    Coming back sounds quite uphill.

    :D

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 15:34

    Much nicer than last year. Finding the Forum was a cinch. I just go down a lift, walk down a slope, walk down some steps, walk down another slope, cross a road, take another lift, walk down another slope, cross a road, and Bob's your uncle.

    Why do all the Brit's keep telling me that this mysterious "Bob" is my uncle?

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 15:35

    Coming back sounds quite uphill.

    It was/is. Don't fancy it after tomorrow night's do.

    I found a wine shop and bought some wine. On the way back to the apartment I was gripped by the fear that the kitchen wouldn't have a corkscrew. Fortunately this is not the case. I'm going to have a glass of wine and then have a nap - early start (4.40) this morning...

    Afternoon alll

    Bon soir...

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 15:35

    Why do all the Brit's keep telling me that this mysterious "Bob" is my uncle?

    I actually do have an Uncle Bob.

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 15:36

    Why do all the Brit's keep telling me that this mysterious "Bob" is my uncle?

    Monkhouse's Syndrome by proxy?

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 15:37

    I actually do have an Uncle Bob.

    :)

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 15:37

    Monkhouse's Syndrome by proxy?

    hahaha :)

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 15:38

    Bon soir...

    afternoon sir. how are we all today?

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 15:49

    how are we all today?

    Am sitting on the balcony with a glass of wine and listening to F1 Debrief, which I downloaded yesterday. The folly of Summerton has just been nailed...

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 15:50

    Am sitting on the balcony with a glass of wine and listening to F1 Debrief, which I downloaded yesterday. The folly of Summerton has just been nailed...

    I'm not jealous. nope. not at all. not one bit (grrrr)

    Mr summerton does get a bit annoying after a while...i stopped following him on my personal twitter

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:00

    Am sitting on the balcony with a glass of wine and listening to F1 Debrief, which I downloaded yesterday. The folly of Summerton has just been nailed...

    i think that might be the most exotic location said show has ever been consumed.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 16:00

    i think that might be the most exotic location said show has ever been consumed.

    Someone was on holiday and made friends with their neighbour on a balcony, didn't they?

    Got any neighbours, Stuart?

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:00

    Someone was on holiday and made friends with their neighbour on a balcony, didn't they?

    ooh yeah!

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 16:03

    Someone was on holiday and made friends with their neighbour on a balcony, didn't they?

    I should add "whilst listening to a show."

    Not just people making friends with people.

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 16:04

    Got any neighbours

    It's a bit nippy out, so all I've got for company is an air-con extractor, a brush, a mop and a bucket.

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:08

    It's a bit nippy out, so all I've got for company is an air-con extractor, a brush, a mop and a bucket.

    you're not selling the glamour of monaco all that well.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 16:13

    you're not selling the glamour of monaco all that well.

    Sounds like it'll be easy to clean, though.

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:13

    you're not selling the glamour of monaco all that well.

    Sounds like it'll be easy to clean, though.

    :D

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 16:18

    Afternoon all.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 16:19

    Dear iPod,

    I currently have 900 songs. Just because I listened to a song when I put you on shuffle does not mean I want you to play another song by that artist!

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:22

    I currently have 900 songs. Just because I listened to a song when I put you on shuffle does not mean I want you to play another song by that artist!

    that is what random is.

    there's a slider to make it less random i think.

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:23

    Afternoon all.

    hulllo chappie.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 16:24

    I currently have 900 songs. Just because I listened to a song when I put you on shuffle does not mean I want you to play another song by that artist!

    that is what random is.

    there's a slider to make it less random i think.

    But it happens all the time - and shuffle is not random...

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 16:25

    hulllo chappie.

    Don't think I've ever been called a chappie before! I shuld warn you, I'll be sporadic for a few hours, currently continuing my career in the game. Today, China! On Lap 10, currently leading

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:25

    Don't think I've ever been called a chappie before! I shuld warn you, I'll be sporadic for a few hours, currently continuing my career in the game. Today, China! On Lap 10, currently leading

    are you keeping notes.

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 16:25

    But it happens all the time - and shuffle is not random...

    Nothing electronic is completely random

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 16:26

    are you keeping notes.

    Not really. I'll start now! *opens word*

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 16:26

    Not really. I'll start now! *opens word*

    blog post?

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:27

    But it happens all the time - and shuffle is not random...

    http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB115876952162469003-f2A_i_8fe2ztclVw3xm1LpGxMLA_20061020.html

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 16:27

    blog post?

    We'll see...

  • RG08/12/2009 at 16:28

    Hi everybody.

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 16:28

    Hi everybody.

    Afternooon

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 16:29

    Hi everybody.

    that's weird. I'm listening to your voicemail on the debrief!

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:33

    Hi everybody.

    hey ya.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 16:35

    But it happens all the time - and shuffle is not random...

    http://online....LpGxMLA_20061020.html

    Great article, thanks.

    There is a big debate about whether online poker random number generators are random enough... I certainly get much better cards online than I do in real life...

    And my iPod just did it again, BTW...

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 16:36

    And my iPod just did it again, BTW...

    is there a setting?

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:37

    There is a big debate about whether online poker random number generators are random enough... I certainly get much better cards online than I do in real life...

    you need kryptonite, clearly.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 16:37

    There is a big debate about whether online poker random number generators are random enough... I certainly get much better cards online than I do in real life...

    I would like to see a statistical analysis of that ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 16:39

    There is a big debate about whether online poker random number generators are random enough... I certainly get much better cards online than I do in real life...

    I would like to see a statistical analysis of that ;)

    I fear if I uncovered anything, I might have to disappear!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 16:39

    you need kryptonite, clearly.

    A who what now?

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 16:39

    hello sidepodworld

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 16:40

    What, I can't set a reminder for 8 weeks out?! Google Calendar FAIL!

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:41

    A who what now?

    from the article i just linked to?

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:43

    hello sidepodworld

    hi guille.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 16:45

    There is a big debate about whether online poker random number generators are random enough... I certainly get much better cards online than I do in real life...

    When I play poker online I find that I get a few good hands consecutively way too often. I also get streaks of 2,3 2,4 etc

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 16:48

    http://online....LpGxMLA_20061020.html

    wow. I never thought that there existed mass 'real' random number generators. after reading it it seems obvious that you could use radioactive decay or a chaotic system to do that, but never crossed my mind that somebody could actually be doing it

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 16:49

    When I play poker online I find that I get a few good hands consecutively way too often. I also get streaks of 2,3 2,4 etc

    Most of them aren't "random", technically, they're pseudo-random: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:49

    wow. I never thought that there existed mass 'real' random number generators. after reading it it seems obvious that you could use radioactive decay or a chaotic system to do that, but never crossed my mind that somebody could actually be doing it

    and for 20 years too.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 16:53

    But it happens all the time - and shuffle is not random...

    http://online....LpGxMLA_20061020.html

    #sameperson I was just about to link to that article!

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 16:57

    And my iPod just did it again, BTW...

    The thing is that you obviously notice the times that it happens and don't notice the times that it doesn't. So you suffer from false sampling.

    There is a big debate about whether online poker random number generators are random enough... I certainly get much better cards online than I do in real life...

    Interestingly beginners luck is a genuine fact which is provable. Because of an inherent sampling problem in the data. If you find out from a group of people who gamble whether they were actually more lucky at the beginning they will on average have been more lucky at the beginning than they are now. Why? Because unless you are more lucky than usual at the beginning you tend to stop playing therefore excluding you from the sample.

  • me08/12/2009 at 16:57

    #sameperson I was just about to link to that article!

    how random.

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 17:02

    Ticket struggles? What ticket struggles?

    From manipeF1:

    Crickey, Silverstone has already sold £1m worth of tickets for next year's race in just 24 hrs.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 17:02

    I'm sure this thing'll be able to generate lots of random numbers: http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/ibm-developing-10-petaflop-supercomputer-power7-to-ship-next-ye/

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 17:03

    My brother's just informed me that, 4 races into his F1 2009 career on the Wii, he has yet to finish a race due to engine blowouts. made me chuckle.

    #sorryRGblameSumoDigital

  • Journeyer08/12/2009 at 17:03

    My brother's just informed me that, 4 races into his F1 2009 career on the Wii, he has yet to finish a race due to engine blowouts. made me chuckle.

    Is he on Expert mode? I'm just on Advanced. :)

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 17:04

    Is he on Expert mode? I'm just on Advanced. :)

    No idea!

  • RG08/12/2009 at 17:04

    #sorryRGblameSumoDigital

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 17:05

    I'm sure this thing'll be able to generate lots of random numbers: http://www.eng...wer7-to-ship-next-ye/

    only pseudo-random numbers. but probably much better than the ones from poker online ;-)

  • Jason Baker08/12/2009 at 17:06

    Hello all.

    Ticket struggles? What ticket struggles?

    Heard the same from Autosport. Also read this morning that Silverstone are going to show the World Cup final on big screens and allow people to stay and watch the match.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 17:10

    An interesting question here on the randomness is if you were to take the main twitter feed and use it like a random number generator. Say take the first alpha character of the first post you find. Turn the letter into a number from 1 to 26. Count that many tweets forward and take the first letter of that tweet, turn that into a number and again count forward. Do this 6 times in total. Now take the second character of all of those tweets turn them into numbers and add them together. This maps to 150 characters (not 156 - because aaaaaa is 6 not 1). Now use this to pick a character from the next tweet you find and turn that character into a number from 1 to 26.

    It still wouldn't be truely random... but it would be very random.

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 17:12

    Some pyramid marketing goober is now following me on Twitter. Where do these people come from? Why does he think I want to sell water filters?

    So you suffer from false sampling.

    What he said.

    Although my iTunes does veer into Adam & The Ants b-side strangeness from time to time...

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 17:14

    Although my iTunes does veer into Adam & The Ants b-side strangeness from time to time...

    Indeed.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 17:15

    Here's somebody who explains why Gavin thinks it's not random really rather well:

    Many claim to still see patterns as iTunes rambles through their music collection, but the majority of these patterns are simply multiple songs from the same artist. Think of it this way: If you have 2000 songs and 40 of them are from the same artist, there is always a 2% chance of hearing them next with random play. So right after one of their songs finishes, odds show a 50% chance they will play again within the next 35 songs and a 64% chance they will be played again within the next 50 songs

    from: http://ask.metafilter.com/23813/Is-an-ipod-on-shuffle-truly-random

    And you only have 900 songs...

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 17:16

    And you only have 900 songs...

    Say you have 20 songs by 1 artist (two albums is) then you have almost a 5% chance of hearing a song by the same artist next.

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 17:17

    The iPod really is the digital equivalent of that big hangar in the final shot from Raiders of the Lost Ark, isn't it?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 17:17

    I'm sure this thing'll be able to generate lots of random numbers: http://www.eng...wer7-to-ship-next-ye/

    Surely the most reliable random number generator is sidepodtime.

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 17:18

    Surely the most reliable random number generator is sidepodtime.

    :)

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 17:18

    The iPod really is the digital equivalent of that big hangar in the final shot from Raiders of the Lost Ark, isn't it?

    Have you got yours with you?

    I say by tracks.... B... 12... Go.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 17:20

    Although my iTunes does veer into Adam & The Ants b-side strangeness from time to time...

    I think the question there is not why the ipod randomly plays them but why are they there in the first place

  • Alex Andronov08/12/2009 at 17:20

    I say by tracks.... B... 12... Go.

    Mine is Back in the Fire by Paul Weller.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 17:35

    The thing is that you obviously notice the times that it happens and don't notice the times that it doesn't. So you suffer from false sampling.

    But it happened 3 times in half an hour! each time a different artist and album!

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 17:38

    I say by tracks.... B... 12... Go.

    Mine came up with Never Had No One Ever by The Smiths...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 17:40

    Here's somebody who explains why Gavin thinks it's not random really rather well:

    Many claim to still see patterns as iTunes rambles through their music collection, but the majority of these patterns are simply multiple songs from the same artist. Think of it this way: If you have 2000 songs and 40 of them are from the same artist, there is always a 2% chance of hearing them next with random play. So right after one of their songs finishes, odds show a 50% chance they will play again within the next 35 songs and a 64% chance they will be played again within the next 50 songs

    from: http://ask.met...-shuffle-truly-random

    And you only have 900 songs...

    OK then - can you explain why the same 20 songs keep appearing even though it's supposed to be random? If I listen to my music playlist twice a week then the odds of this happening must be astronomical if the probabilty of each song is 1/900-(n-1)*1/900-(n-2)... etc...

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 17:46

    Using the iPod often reminds me of the first chapter of Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep, where Deckard and his wife are bickering over which setting to dial on their 'mood organ'. Having so much choice breeds a curious apathy.

    Anyway, I used a sandwich as entertainment on the flight over.

    http://www.stuartcodling.com/2009/12/on-the-road-to-monaco/

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 17:49

    OK then - can you explain why the same 20 songs keep appearing even though it's supposed to be random? If I listen to my music playlist twice a week then the odds of this happening must be astronomical if the probabilty of each song is 1/900-(n-1)*1/900-(n-2)... etc...

    the question is: is the 'shuffle' supposed to be a 'randomize' function. I would expect it to be something like a 'seamless randomize': it does a randomization, but always in similar songs. Given enough time you should end 'far away' from the first song, but without making strange things like playing Mozart after Shakira. More like a random walk than a truly random function...

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 17:49

    did someone mention earlier today getting tweets from people you're not following? It's happening for me

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 17:50

    did someone mention earlier today getting tweets from people you're not following? It's happening for me

    ?!?!?!

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 17:51

    did someone mention earlier today getting tweets from people you're not following? It's happening for me

    are you getting @'s or DM's?

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 17:52

    are you getting @'s or DM's?

    No... just an automated API by the looks of things. it's not a retweet or a @ or a dm, just... a random set of tweets in my tweetdeck feed. When the profile is clicked, it says I'm not followinf them which is true.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 17:54

    official google chrome beta's for Mac and Linux are out: http://www.google.com/chrome/

  • me08/12/2009 at 17:57

    official google chrome beta's for Mac and Linux are out: http://www.google.com/chrome/

    ooh yay!

  • me08/12/2009 at 17:58

    Surely the most reliable random number generator is sidepodtime.

    harsh!

  • me08/12/2009 at 18:00

    No... just an automated API by the looks of things. it's not a retweet or a @ or a dm, just... a random set of tweets in my tweetdeck feed. When the profile is clicked, it says I'm not followinf them which is true.

    same as christine. it's broken.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:00

    harsh!

    If someone wants two random numbers all they need to do is take the seconds from the time a fuzzy Christine appears on screen on successive shows

  • me08/12/2009 at 18:03

    from chrome on the mac :)

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 18:05

    from chrome on the mac :)

    Happy mr c?

  • me08/12/2009 at 18:07

    Happy mr c?

    mmm, should make life much easier.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 18:07

    from chrome on the mac :)

    :D

    any idea for a fixing on the no-sound problem?

    (from Chrome in Linux...)

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 18:08

    mmm, should make life much easier.

    Woo! :)

  • me08/12/2009 at 18:08

    :D

    any idea for a fixing on the no-sound problem?

    (from Chrome in Linux...)

    much better chance of sorting it now i can repeat it. w00t!

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:11

    Hello :)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:12

    Hello :)

    Afternoon. You look happy

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 18:12

    Hello :)

    Evening. How is Lou? :)

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 18:13

    much better chance of sorting it now i can repeat it. w00t!

    I've actually been using one of the "alpha" chrome builds for mac for a long time. Only weirdness I've noticed is that sometimes when I want to reply to a post all the buttons say "reply"

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:13

    Afternoon. You look happy

    i've just finished a very horrible essay... :) all afternoon and it's finally done. i've also had lots of red bull :)

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 18:13

    Hello :)

    hi lou

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:13

    Evening. How is Lou? :)

    mainly good :) what about everyone else?

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 18:13

    Hello :)

    When are you and Lukeh getting married?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:13

    i've just finished a very horrible essay... :) all afternoon and it's finally done. i've also had lots of red bull :)

    So now you are hyper and have nothing to do

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:14

    So now you are hyper and have nothing to do

    oh i have loads to do don't worry.. just having a break. Plus it's mainly textiles :)

  • RG08/12/2009 at 18:14

    mainly good :) what about everyone else?

    Hey lou.

    Had a rather forgettable day.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 18:16

    oh i have loads to do don't worry.. just having a break. Plus it's mainly textiles :)

    I'm so jealous!! I want to do more textiles....

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:16

    When are you and Lukeh getting married?

    errrr....not in the near future...

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 18:16

    I'm so jealous!! I want to do more textiles....

    whats stopping you?

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:17

    I'm so jealous!! I want to do more textiles....

    well you're always welcome to come to mine and help me. i'd much rather be doing photography :(

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:17

    I'm so jealous!! I want to do more textiles....

    Do it then

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:21

    Question on celebrity Eggheads

    The Honda F1 team was renamed what in 2009?

    Red Bull apparently is the wrong answer

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 18:21

    Red Bull apparently is the wrong answer

    hahahahahahah

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:22

    Red Bull apparently is the wrong answer

    ahahaha :D

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 18:23

    whats stopping you?

    I'm not buying a proper machine!! I could always sneak back into school and do some there.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:23

    hahahahahahah

    That was the second F1 question and the second wrong answer. The first question was who won the 1982 world championship between 2 wins for Nelson Piquet.

    Rosberg, Prost or Scheckter?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 18:26

    Rosberg, Prost or Scheckter?

    Rosberg but I wouldn't expect them to know that.

    Hello again.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 18:27

    Rosberg but I wouldn't expect them to know that.

    Hello again.

    hi pat

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:27

    Rosberg but I wouldn't expect them to know that.

    Hello again.

    The Egghead said Scheckter who had retired by then

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:29

    i'm confused.. i'm reading Jake's Blog and he makes it sound like Jenson didn't know he was moving.. i take it he means that Jenson was surprised by the timing of the announcement (seeing as he was in an interview with Jake?). It made me think, do drivers not get told when announcements will be made public then? I would have thought they would....

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 18:34

    ookay.. http://tweetinklingon.com/

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:35

    i'm confused.. i'm reading Jake's Blog and he makes it sound like Jenson didn't know he was moving.. i take it he means that Jenson was surprised by the timing of the announcement (seeing as he was in an interview with Jake?). It made me think, do drivers not get told when announcements will be made public then? I would have thought they would....

    The drivers or their management will get told but maybe it is not something Jenson is greatly interested in. I think a driver should be aware because as soon as that announcement is made he has to stop being a driver who is undecided about the best course for his future to one who has to explain why he has made the decision to switch teams. Not being aware can make him look like an idiot.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:37

    ookay.. http://tweetinklingon.com/

    Now twitter is interesting ;)

    I wonder how long it will take before online translation services offer Klingon and how long it will be before GMM pick up their first story from a Klingon source.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 18:38

    I wonder how long it will take before online translation services offer Klingon and how long it will be before GMM pick up their first story from a Klingon source.

    There's a piece of software that translates to/from Klingon: http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/11/19/klingon-translation-program-to-be-released-by-ultralingua/

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 18:39

    There's a piece of software that translates to/from Klingon: http://chattah...eased-by-ultralingua/

    Err... sorry, it's not a translator, it's to teach people Klingon, my bad.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:39

    The drivers or their management will get told but maybe it is not something Jenson is greatly interested in. I think a driver should be aware because as soon as that announcement is made he has to stop being a driver who is undecided about the best course for his future to one who has to explain why he has made the decision to switch teams. Not being aware can make him look like an idiot.

    ah okay.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 18:41

    My favourite of the tweets in Klingon

    'oH ghaH QaQ jaj DaqjaH

    It means. It is a good day to tweet. A bit different to the normal Klingon saying.

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 18:50

    Blimey. The first online community I ever joined have just announced they are going to close at the end of the month...*is in shock*

  • me08/12/2009 at 18:50

    Blimey. The first online community I ever joined have just announced they are going to close at the end of the month...*is in shock*

    who's that then?

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 18:52

    Blimey. The first online community I ever joined have just announced they are going to close at the end of the month...*is in shock*

    who's that then?

    A theme park appreciation site known as South Parks. I've been a member over 5 years! Unfortunately, Uni meant I couldn't got to parks as often as I could, so I haven't been a regular for about 18 months now...

  • me08/12/2009 at 18:54

    A theme park appreciation site known as South Parks. I've been a member over 5 years! Unfortunately, Uni meant I couldn't got to parks as often as I could, so I haven't been a regular for about 18 months now...

    ah. how come they're closing?

  • me08/12/2009 at 18:55

    ouch:

    http://willthef1journo.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/the-tragedy-of-silverstones-gp-deal/

    :(

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 18:57

    ah. how come they're closing?

    Main reasons are that the main theme park they're following (Thorpe Park) has sort of gone down the toilet in the past 3 years. The management aren't really listening to the fans , and the park's now full of chavs. As a result, there are less enthusiasts for that park, so less people are using the site. Really bad way to go.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 18:57
  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:00

    ouch:

    I can't see why it will cost £4 million to make the few repairs necessary. I hope Tom Wheatcroft's son sorts this mess out. Donington always was a great circuit and if he can't sort that out it meant the Donington GP collection wil almost certainly be broken up.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:03

    I can't see why it will cost £4 million to make the few repairs necessary. I hope Tom Wheatcroft's son sorts this mess out. Donington always was a great circuit and if he can't sort that out it meant the Donington GP collection wil almost certainly be broken up.

    is it still open? we should try and get back there.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:04

    becken says steven should write a book:

    http://f1around.wordpress.com/2009/12/05/steven-roy-le-seus-artigos-no-sidepodcast/#comment-11709

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 19:04

    I can't see why it will cost £4 million to make the few repairs necessary. I hope Tom Wheatcroft's son sorts this mess out. Donington always was a great circuit and if he can't sort that out it meant the Donington GP collection wil almost certainly be broken up.

    We don't have any idea what state it was left in, but surely it would only need the track and runoff fixed and that's it, to get it up and running for national racing? The current pit buildings were only replaced a few years ago and they were keeping the pitlane so they could run two tracks at once..

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:06

    is it still open? we should try and get back there.

    It is closed until further notice

    http://www.donington-park.co.uk/grand-prix-collection-museum

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 19:07

    Main reasons are that the main theme park they're following (Thorpe Park) has sort of gone down the toilet in the past 3 years. The management aren't really listening to the fans , and the park's now full of chavs. As a result, there are less enthusiasts for that park, so less people are using the site. Really bad way to go.

    Has it gone downhill? Seemed okay last time I was there. Must have been last summer.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:08

    becken says steven should write a book:

    Not very MFC and not verry likely given how long it took me to write 5 items

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 19:09

    Has it gone downhill? Seemed okay last time I was there. Must have been last summer.

    To the regular visitors, it has. If you go once a year, maybe not.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:09

    It is closed until further notice

    bugger.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:09

    Not very MFC and not verry likely given how long it took me to write 5 items

    :)

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 19:09

    Not very MFC and not verry likely given how long it took me to write 5 items

    so, you already have a few chapters written! ;-)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:10

    We don't have any idea what state it was left in, but surely it would only need the track and runoff fixed and that's it, to get it up and running for national racing? The current pit buildings were only replaced a few years ago and they were keeping the pitlane so they could run two tracks at once..

    From what I have read the only big problem is the tunnel into the infield was not completed so there is a need for that to be filled in and the run off at the corner before Coppice to be restored. Everything else is little more than minor repairs and maintenance.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 19:13

    From what I have read the only big problem is the tunnel into the infield was not completed so there is a need for that to be filled in and the run off at the corner before Coppice to be restored. Everything else is little more than minor repairs and maintenance.

    The tunnel at Coppice was completed, there was a fuss after they covered it that there wasn't enough runoff area so they had to make further changes, which I thought they'd done.

    The pic on Will's blog with rubble everywhere looks to be taken from the GP loop, that can be ignored for now just to get the national track operational again.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:13

    so, you already have a few chapters written! ;-)

    A well known plugger wrote the book with the missing front page (still available on Amazon http://bit.ly/8tWrTM). My book would be the book with the missing 200 pages.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 19:14

    Identica pops out your timeline in a little window. That is way cool.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 19:14

    What they need is a man with a digger to clear any detritus anywhere else around the racing circuit. Don't haul it away, use it to make spectator mounds.

    Fix the fences, patch up the asphalt and you've got yourself a club track. They don't need fancy facilities. Get some basic money coming in again and then gradually improve and fix the rest.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 19:15

    A well known plugger wrote the book with the missing front page (still available on Amazon http://bit.ly/8tWrTM). My book would be the book with the missing 200 pages.

    instant best-seller :-)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:15

    The tunnel at Coppice was completed, there was a fuss after they covered it that there wasn't enough runoff area so they had to make further changes, which I thought they'd done.

    The pic on Will's blog with rubble everywhere looks to be taken from the GP loop, that can be ignored for now just to get the national track operational again.

    The Melbourne loop is not vital if they have lost all their top level events. They can just use the chicane at Goddards for all events.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:15

    Identica pops out your timeline in a little window. That is way cool.

    are we going back to identica?

  • RG08/12/2009 at 19:15

    Just done the season review for you lot ;)

    Btw, I think we may have to redefine RGesque

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 19:15

    are we going back to identica?

    I am already there. Guille is waiting for us.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:15

    I am already there. Guille is waiting for us.

    righto

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:16

    instant best-seller :-)

    I look forward to receiveing confirmation of your order. You can have sole rights to my books in Argentina for $500,000 or you can have all of South America for $1,000,000

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 19:17

    I am already there. Guille is waiting for us.

    ruling the world, one at a time ;-)

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 19:18

    I look forward to receiveing confirmation of your order. You can have sole rights to my books in Argentina for $500,000 or you can have all of South America for $1,000,000

    mmm... can I take a loan based on the profits of the sells, like CVC?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:18

    are we going back to identica?

    I am already there. Guille is waiting for us.

    You made be get identica because twitter was useless then made me switch to twitter and now I have to go back to identica again. I still haven't found a real reason to be on either of them regularly

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:19

    mmm... can I take a loan based on the profits of the sells, like CVC?

    Since I am Bernie in this deal I don;t mind where the money comes from so long as it ends up in my account

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 19:19

    You made be get identica because twitter was useless then made me switch to twitter and now I have to go back to identica again. I still haven't found a real reason to be on either of them regularly

    You must know how fickle we are by now.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:20

    You made be get identica because twitter was useless then made me switch to twitter and now I have to go back to identica again. I still haven't found a real reason to be on either of them regularly

    hehe.

    i'm happy with twitter. i mean i hate it, but i use it for the only thing it's good at - pimping our stuff. occasionally it's a good way to abuse mediatemple.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:20

    Since I am Bernie in this deal I don;t mind where the money comes from so long as it ends up in my account

    :)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:21

    You must know how fickle we are by now.

    I can't even remember my identica name because that was on my laptop before it died

  • startledbunny08/12/2009 at 19:21

    Someone should compile all the Ted Kravitz facts and release that as a book, like the Chuck Norris book that is out there

    http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Chuck-Norris-Greatest/dp/1592403441

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:21

    i'm happy with twitter. i mean i hate it, but i use it for the only thing it's good at - pimping our stuff. occasionally it's a good way to abuse mediatemple.

    So if I get a blog I automatically get a use for twitter thrown in?

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 19:22

    I am already there. Guille is waiting for us.

    I'm jamesp on identica, haven't logged in in... well... forever.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:23

    So if I get a blog I automatically get a use for twitter thrown in?

    exactly.

  • me08/12/2009 at 19:24

    I can't even remember my identica name because that was on my laptop before it died

    http://identi.ca/stevenroy

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 19:26

    I'm jamesp on identica, haven't logged in in... well... forever.

    You should have a go. Say hi to me : http://identi.ca/mrschristine

    :)

  • RG08/12/2009 at 19:26

    You should have a go. Say hi to me : http://identi.ca/mrschristine

    I twee.sorry, what do they call it again?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:29

    I found my identica account.

    http://identi.ca/stevenroy/

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 19:29

    I twee.sorry, what do they call it again?

    Denting!

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 19:30

    Denting!

    And I thought tweeting sounded odd...

    incidentally, I'm staying with twitter for the moment. See how things go.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:30

    I can't even remember my identica name because that was on my laptop before it died

    http://identi.ca/stevenroy

    Wish I had read this comment before I set up a new account. I set up a new account then my old one appeared on screen. I have no idea why it didn't appear when I first went to the site or why I don't exist in the search.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 19:30

    Denting!

    really? and i thought tweeting was bad.. at least "tweet" sounds like a message!

    it seems all your updates are appearing in twitter anyway so win-win?

  • RG08/12/2009 at 19:30

    Denting!

    Thats the one.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 19:30

    really? and i thought tweeting was bad.. at least "tweet" sounds like a message!

    it seems all your updates are appearing in twitter anyway so win-win?

    or only some people's are

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 19:31

    Denting!

    :D

    I never noticed the 'in context' link below the dents that are part of a conversation. it's nice AND useful...

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 19:31

    incidentally, I'm staying with twitter for the moment. See how things go.

    I have no intention of switching unless someone can demonstrate why I should.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 19:32

    really? and i thought tweeting was bad.. at least "tweet" sounds like a message!

    it seems all your updates are appearing in twitter anyway so win-win?

    I switched mine off.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 19:32

    I have no intention of switching unless someone can demonstrate why I should.

    I have no intention of asking you to.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 19:33

    I have no intention of switching unless someone can demonstrate why I should.

    I just have the two accounts running (same name), but post mainly on identica and the system takes care of redirecting the post to twitter

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:33

    Can't believe no-one has signed up here

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Daily+Post+Guest+Writers

  • RG08/12/2009 at 19:34
  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:36

    I didn't know you could.

    You are the master of the wiki. I thought you knew everything that was on there.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 19:37

    Identica pops out your timeline in a little window. That is way cool.

    BTW, how do you do that?

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 19:38

    BTW, how do you do that?

    There's a little pop out icon next to the pause button. The popout doesn't seem to autoupdate though.

  • RG08/12/2009 at 19:42

    You are the master of the wiki. I thought you knew everything that was on there.

    Errrrrr

    *runs*

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 19:42

    Errrrrr

    You been listening to that phonetics cd again? ;)

  • RG08/12/2009 at 19:43

    You been listening to that phonetics cd again? ;)

    I really have been struggling with those sounds.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 19:43

    There's a little pop out icon next to the pause button. The popout doesn't seem to autoupdate though.

    :-( I see it in firefox but not in chrome under linux

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 19:43

    The Melbourne loop is not vital if they have lost all their top level events. They can just use the chicane at Goddards for all events.

    The Melbourne loop needs re-doing anyway. Take out the damn chicane!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 19:45

    Someone should compile all the Ted Kravitz facts and release that as a book, like the Chuck Norris book that is out there

    http://www.ama...reatest/dp/1592403441

    I have a book which is a collection of "Yeah Right" Slogans for Tui Ads!

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 19:49

    Just reading an interesting subcriber-only article on Autosport from Thomas O'Keefe... IndyCar from a Formula 1 perspective

    http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2539

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 19:52

    ouch:

    http://willthe...silverstones-gp-deal/

    :(

    :(

    Posted a comment there:

    I was born in Nottingham and I consider Donington my home track.

    If all of this is true then the words I have for Gillett are simply unprintable. I am absolutely devastated to hear that one of my favourite racing circuits may have ceased to exist.

    A truly sad day for British Motorsport if this is not fixed :(

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 19:54

    If all of this is true then the words I have for Gillett are simply unprintable. I am absolutely devastated to hear that one of my favourite racing circuits may have ceased to exist.

    I agree with the sentiments but this is not Gillett's fault. It is the fault of the Wheatcroft's who handed over the track with no guarantees in place. They should have protected their circuit.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 19:57

    If all of this is true then the words I have for Gillett are simply unprintable. I am absolutely devastated to hear that one of my favourite racing circuits may have ceased to exist.

    I agree with the sentiments but this is not Gillett's fault. It is the fault of the Wheatcroft's who handed over the track with no guarantees in place. They should have protected their circuit.

    How so?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:03

    How so?

    The Wheatcroft's did the deal with Gillett that allowed him to tear up their track without him having the finance to put the dirt back int the holes never mond deliver on his promises. No responsible business would ever allow that to happen. If I turned up at your house and said I wanted to reip your kitchen out and replace it with one made of solid gold would you just hand me the keys and tell me to start tearing out the exiting kitchen or would you ask for some kind of evidence or guarantee that I could deliver?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 20:04

    How so?

    The Wheatcroft's did the deal with Gillett that allowed him to tear up their track without him having the finance to put the dirt back int the holes never mond deliver on his promises. No responsible business would ever allow that to happen. If I turned up at your house and said I wanted to reip your kitchen out and replace it with one made of solid gold would you just hand me the keys and tell me to start tearing out the exiting kitchen or would you ask for some kind of evidence or guarantee that I could deliver?

    If you are right then that is shoddy business...

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:05

    If you are right then that is shoddy business...

    I think it is gross incompetence

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:05

    @rubarrichello lot's of work here in Qatar today.On my way to Grove...I will stay in my Motorhome at the Williams factory

    well i suppose he still gets to use his motorhome in the off season?.. seems a bit odd though...

    also... interesting that Jenson isn't allowed to do any Mclaren stuff, but Rubens is allowed to go to the Williams Factory. I assume their contracts were for the same amount of time?

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 20:06

    also... interesting that Jenson isn't allowed to do any Mclaren stuff, but Rubens is allowed to go to the Williams Factory. I assume their contracts were for the same amount of time?

    Yes, but Mercedes wanted to get rid of Barrichello (*sorryLukeh). They didn't want to lose Jenson

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:06

    well i suppose he still gets to use his motorhome in the off season?.. seems a bit odd though...

    super secure though.

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:07

    also... interesting that Jenson isn't allowed to do any Mclaren stuff, but Rubens is allowed to go to the Williams Factory. I assume their contracts were for the same amount of time?

    Yes, but Mercedes wanted to get rid of Barrichello (*sorryLukeh). They didn't want to lose Jenson

    his beard isn't fully gone yet...

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:07

    Yes, but Mercedes wanted to get rid of Barrichello (*sorryLukeh). They didn't want to lose Jenson

    but the contracts end at the same time? seems unfair for Jenson?

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:07

    super secure though.

    true.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:07

    his beard isn't fully gone yet...

    grrrrr.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:08

    also... interesting that Jenson isn't allowed to do any Mclaren stuff, but Rubens is allowed to go to the Williams Factory. I assume their contracts were for the same amount of time?

    Yes, but Mercedes wanted to get rid of Barrichello (*sorryLukeh). They didn't want to lose Jenson

    Rubens isn't champion.

    Isn't it a bit cold for a motorhome?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:09

    also... interesting that Jenson isn't allowed to do any Mclaren stuff, but Rubens is allowed to go to the Williams Factory. I assume their contracts were for the same amount of time?

    I guess since the team dumped Rubens they felt it was right for them to release him. No doubt they had an advertising campaign built round Jenson and clearly thought he wanted to stay so they are a little upset that he chose to leave. So they are holding him to the letter of his contract.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:10

    Rubens isn't champion.

    Isn't it a bit cold for a motorhome?

    Have you seen the motorhomes the drivers have?

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 20:10

    but the contracts end at the same time? seems unfair for Jenson?

    they let rubens go in good terms. jenson escaped away. it's unfair to jenson, yes, but he did it to himself...

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:10

    I guess since the team dumped Rubens they felt it was right for them to release him. No doubt they had an advertising campaign built round Jenson and clearly thought he wanted to stay so they are a little upset that he chose to leave. So they are holding him to the letter of his contract.

    :( it's sad that my favourite team don't like my favourite driver anymore :( i'm still hoping all will be forgiven when Jenson finishes his Mclaren contract and wants to return to them...

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:11

    :( it's sad that my favourite team don't like my favourite driver anymore :( i'm still hoping all will be forgiven when Jenson finishes his Mclaren contract and wants to return to them...

    You think he is going to stay at McLaren for his full contract?

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 20:12

    Hello all.

    Just had a look at Will Buxton's article on Donington's current state and the picture at the top of it is simply unbelieveable. I hope Simon Gillett pays for what he's done to an icon of British motor racing, and pays dearly.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:17

    You think he is going to stay at McLaren for his full contract?

    i hope not...but you never know :(

  • Jason Baker08/12/2009 at 20:20

    Just had a look at Will Buxton's article on Donington's current state and the picture at the top of it is simply unbelieveable. I hope Simon Gillett pays for what he's done to an icon of British motor racing, and pays dearly.

    Surely he will be in default of his lease agreement, so the Wheatcrofts could go after him; however, given all the dodgy financing Gillett was attempting to arrange, it likely means that he doesn't have much to go after. At any rate, surely his reputation in the motor racing world is shot?

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 20:21

    Surely he will be in default of his lease agreement, so the Wheatcrofts could go after him; however, given all the dodgy financing Gillett was attempting to arrange, it likely means that he doesn't have much to go after. At any rate, surely his reputation in the motor racing world is shot?

    Put it this way - if he dares to show his face at the Autosport show, which I highly doubt, I will have choice words for him.

  • RG08/12/2009 at 20:22

    Put it this way - if he dares to show his face at the Autosport show, which I highly doubt, I will have choice words for him.

    Get yourself past the crowd thinking the exact same thing first...

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 20:22

    Get yourself past the crowd thinking the exact same thing first...

    :D

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:23

    Surely he will be in default of his lease agreement

    He is definietely in default of that. The question now is can the Wheatcrofts sort this mess out and get racing at Donington again

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:25

    Put it this way - if he dares to show his face at the Autosport show, which I highly doubt, I will have choice words for him.

    Get yourself past the crowd thinking the exact same thing first...

    ummm, he's quite a big lad.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:29

    ummm, he's quite a big lad.

    no match for a good old fashioned lynch mob

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:30

    ummm, he's quite a big lad.

    no match for a good old fashioned lynch mob

    He is also an ex-marine or something similar

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 20:31

    ummm, he's quite a big lad.

    no match for a good old fashioned lynch mob

    He is also an ex-marine or something similar

    I'm still reckoning the lynch mob's going to be so big it doesn't matter.

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:31

    He is also an ex-marine or something similar

    true. and twice as wide as me.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 20:31

    He is also an ex-marine or something similar

    even frankestein had to run from a lynch mob. he won't have a chance...

  • Jason Baker08/12/2009 at 20:32

    He is definietely in default of that. The question now is can the Wheatcrofts sort this mess out and get racing at Donington again

    While I don't know all the ins and outs of English property laws, it may take some time for them to actually gain control of the circuit to set it right again. Depending on the terms of the lease, he may not have technically defaulted yet (i.e., missed a payment). Hopefully, they had some progress schedule that he is in violation of, but it could take some time for the leasehold interest to be extinguished.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 20:32

    He is also an ex-marine or something similar

    By the sounds of his build, and his angry reception, he could become a wrestler. He'd get such attention and even has a tagline to get angry with

    "I'll dig a hole in you too, brother!"

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:34

    I'm still reckoning the lynch mob's going to be so big it doesn't matter.

    i'm disappointed that the real villain in this episode seems to be escaping any criticism. sure the wheatcroft's may have been negligent, and gillet ambitious but rubbish. however, bernie played them from the start.

    i suspect he saw all of this many years ago and used everyone against silverstone.

    if you want to blame someone, blame bernie.

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:34

    "I'll dig a hole in you too, brother!"

    :)

  • RG08/12/2009 at 20:35

    if you want to blame someone, blame bernie.

    But you can't exactly lynch mob an elderly man!

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 20:36

    if you want to blame someone, blame bernie.

    #blamebernie can take the place of #blamesteven, or they have different scopes?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:36

    But you can't exactly lynch mob an elderly man!

    Can we build up a media/blogger/fan campaign?

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:36

    But you can't exactly lynch mob an elderly man!

    sure you can.. plus it will solve another problem with the sport too ;)

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:36

    Can we build up a media/blogger/fan campaign?

    without proof, i would be kinda libellous.

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:37

    But you can't exactly lynch mob an elderly man!

    sure you can.. plus it will solve another problem with the sport too ;)

    :D

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:37

    Can we build up a media/blogger/fan campaign?

    To do what?

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:37

    without proof, i would be kinda libellous.

    *it.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:37

    I'm still reckoning the lynch mob's going to be so big it doesn't matter.

    i'm disappointed that the real villain in this episode seems to be escaping any criticism. sure the wheatcroft's may have been negligent, and gillet ambitious but rubbish. however, bernie played them from the start.

    i suspect he saw all of this many years ago and used everyone against silverstone.

    if you want to blame someone, blame bernie.

    I agree. Silverstone weren't budging so he took the first alternative to come along... since the last one (Brands Hatch)..

  • RG08/12/2009 at 20:38

    I agree. Silverstone weren't budging so he took the first alternative to come along... since the last one (Brands Hatch)..

    Question, who's next?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:38

    To do what?

    Say we don't like him. It didn't work with Max, this should go down a storm.

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:38

    Say we don't like him. It didn't work with Max, this should go down a storm.

    :)

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:38

    Question, who's next?

    bernie cannot have another 17 years in him?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:39

    Question, who's next?

    There's no other existing track so the next thing to do is fleece someone who wants to make a street race in London or Manchester.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:39

    Say we don't like him. It didn't work with Max, this should go down a storm.

    I am pretty sure he knows that he is not popular

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 20:39

    bernie cannot have another 17 years in him?

    but maybe 10....

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:40

    There's no other existing track so the next thing to do is fleece someone who wants to make a street race in London or Manchester.

    He tried the London street race the last time Silverstone's contract was due fro renewal

  • RG08/12/2009 at 20:40

    bernie cannot have another 17 years in him?

    Am amazed he's still there, still sure he is some sort of evil genius (or the real life Master) who just keeps plugging away, getting money.

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:40

    but maybe 10....

    he'll be 90!

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:41

    bernie cannot have another 17 years in him?

    I think he is planning on retiring and that is why the contract is so long. I expect to see more circuits get long contracts in the near future. Maybe the Nurburging next.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:41

    He tried the London street race the last time Silverstone's contract was due fro renewal

    ahh yeah, I remember the maps in Autosport.. their own speculative ones, mind you..

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:41

    bernie cannot have another 17 years in him?

    We said that 17 years ago. He's an android.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 20:41

    he'll be 90!

    the wonders of medicine ;-)

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:42

    We said that 17 years ago. He's an android.

    okay maybe not that long, but certainly in '99 or so there was talk of who to bring in next..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 20:44

    Put it this way - if he dares to show his face at the Autosport show, which I highly doubt, I will have choice words for him.

    Get yourself past the crowd thinking the exact same thing first...

    ummm, he's quite a big lad.

    And he was in the SAS. Good Luck, he could probably beat you up with his Thumb like Sean Connery in the Presidio :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 20:45

    if you want to blame someone, blame bernie.

    But we blame him for everything else!

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:45

    And he was in the SAS. Good Luck, he could probably beat you up with his Thumb like Sean Connery in the Presidio :D

    Given the way his grasp on reality it was probably the airline he was with

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:45

    And he was in the SAS. Good Luck, he could probably beat you up with his Thumb like Sean Connery in the Presidio :D

    scott's gone awfully quiet...

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:45

    Given the way his grasp on reality it was probably the airline he was with

    Hah! :-)

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 20:46

    scott's gone awfully quiet...

    I'm watching TV.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 20:46

    bernie cannot have another 17 years in him?

    Am amazed he's still there, still sure he is some sort of evil genius (or the real life Master) who just keeps plugging away, getting money.

    He thinks he's going to Valhalla so he can take all his money with him!

  • RG08/12/2009 at 20:46

    scott's gone awfully quiet...

    ...

    Oh gawd, erm Mr Gillett I meant nothing of bad will. You did the best darn job you could sir. *Bows*

  • RG08/12/2009 at 20:46

    I'm watching TV.

    Oh

    I'd like to retract that last statement.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 20:47

    And he was in the SAS. Good Luck, he could probably beat you up with his Thumb like Sean Connery in the Presidio :D

    Given the way his grasp on reality it was probably the airline he was with

    Probably. SAS the airline is also bankrupt and run on false promises! :D

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:47

    I heard Gillett was going to be at ASI because he as going to sign the deposit cheque for the rights to the Azerbaijani grand prix

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 20:48

    Probably. SAS the airline is also bankrupt and run on false promises! :D

    :D

  • RG08/12/2009 at 20:48

    Probably. SAS the airline is also bankrupt and run on false promises! :D

    Haha.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 20:51

    Probably. SAS the airline is also bankrupt and run on false promises! :D

    :D

    Seriously though, they are supposed to be Scandinavia's national carrier and they are worse than EasyJet, who are supposed to be a budget airline!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 20:52

    I heard Gillett was going to be at ASI because he as going to sign the deposit cheque for the rights to the Azerbaijani grand prix

    I have a colleague from there. Nice guy, never heard of Grand Prix. Perfect - Bernie, sign 'em up!!!

  • RG08/12/2009 at 20:53

    I have a colleague from there. Nice guy, never heard of Grand Prix. Perfect - Bernie, sign 'em up!!!

    Worked for Bahrain.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 20:53

    Seriously though, they are supposed to be Scandinavia's national carrier and they are worse than EasyJet, who are supposed to be a budget airline!

    Easyjet aren't too bad for what you get... Ryanair.. now they are bad.

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:56

    Easyjet aren't too bad for what you get... Ryanair.. now they are bad.

    ryanair let me fly to ireland for 1p.

    no-one has yet been able to get me there cheaper.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:57

    ryanair let me fly to ireland for 1p.

    err.... how one earth?....

  • lou08/12/2009 at 20:57

    err.... how one earth?....

    spelling fail :(

  • me08/12/2009 at 20:58

    err.... how one earth?....

    dunno. that's what they charged me. cost a fiver to get home again though.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 20:59

    Can I fly around for a penny please? Life is too expensive.

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:00

    ryanair let me fly to ireland for 1p.

    I can't even get to the centre of Newcastle without it costing tons of money.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:00

    dunno. that's what they charged me. cost a fiver to get home again though.

    still not a bad price though ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:00

    Speaking of ASI, the main historical display is supposed to be to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the WRC. I hope to god there's some Group B cars on display. If they have an Audi Quattro there, I will be forever happy :P

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:00

    still not a bad price though ;)

    A fiver is less than a bus to Carlisle from here....

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:01

    I can't even get to the centre of Newcastle without it costing tons of money.

    to defend easyjet. i got to spain and back for £23. nice, until you compare it to a penny.

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:02

    Speaking of ASI, the main historical display is supposed to be to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the WRC. I hope to god there's some Group B cars on display. If they have an Audi Quattro there, I will be forever happy :P

    I'd suggest meeting Mr Gillett early on in the morning then.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:02

    Easyjet aren't too bad for what you get... Ryanair.. now they are bad.

    ryanair let me fly to ireland for 1p.

    no-one has yet been able to get me there cheaper.

    When I spent a while in Dundee I used them once, it was really convenient going into Bournemouth for practically no money but I had to drive to the opposite coast of Scotland to get to Prestwick to take the flight. Not that it was a bad drive (stunning actually), just Edinburgh would've been easier.

    Then there's the cramming in like sardines, the poor condition of the plane, absolutely everything being charged for..

    Another time I went with EasyJet via Bristol, that was pretty good and FlyBe from Southampton was on par albeit with not as good planes. Okay so they charged for things too but it was much nicer atmosphere and the people were much friendlier on both. The best was BA from Southampton, little jet thing but they looked after you. could only afford that once. This is making me realise, I took a lot of flights in 10 months.

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:03

    I'd suggest meeting Mr Gillett early on in the morning then.

    :D

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:03

    to defend easyjet. i got to spain and back for £23. nice, until you compare it to a penny.

    £23!!! a day out in london costs more than that! maybe flying all round the world taking photos wont be as expensive as i think ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 21:04

    I like EasyJet. Ryanair is a bit 'Skybus' but you get what you pay for and as long as they are on time with my luggage I couldn't care less!

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:05

    £23!!! a day out in london costs more than that! maybe flying all round the world taking photos wont be as expensive as i think ;)

    Word of warning, they've cottoned on to when the races are ;-)

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:05

    Word of warning, they've cottoned on to when the races are ;-)

    Of course if you could spend an extra day before/after, it suddenly becomes cheap again.

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:05

    £23!!! a day out in london costs more than that! maybe flying all round the world taking photos wont be as expensive as i think ;)

    haven't been anywhere for a while, but i once flew an air lingus flight and i was the only person on board not employed by the airline.

    i think there may have been some kind of downturn happening. i'd imagine it's not as cheap now.

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:06

    Word of warning, they've cottoned on to when the races are ;-)

    And don't forget, Abu Dhabi is also a race. So that is pretty much throwing all that saved money, down the drain.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:06

    Word of warning, they've cottoned on to when the races are ;-)

    bad times :(

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:06

    Word of warning, they've cottoned on to when the races are ;-)

    true!

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:06

    OK, let me rephrase my statement:

    Put it this way - if he dares to show his face at the Autosport show, which I highly doubt, and the fact that he wasn't big and an ex-SAS I would have choice words for him.

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:07

    And don't forget, Abu Dhabi is also a race. So that is pretty much throwing all that saved money, down the drain.

    canada is going to be pricey if you're paying for the race in hotel taxes.

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:07

    OK, let me rephrase my statement:

    Put it this way - if he dares to show his face at the Autosport show, which I highly doubt, and the fact that he wasn't big and an ex-SAS I would have choice words for him.

    better.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 21:07

    2009 Review clips sent - have you done yours yet!

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:08

    2009 Review clips sent - have you done yours yet!

    that gavin, he's a legend.

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:08

    2009 Review clips sent - have you done yours yet!

    Yeah. I'm telling ya, RGesque needs to be redefined.

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:08

    2009 Review clips sent - have you done yours yet!

    Yep, sent mine. All 24 minutes of it. Yes - 24 minutes.

    #Iblamemyrantontoyota

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:08

    Flights are only cheap if you're flexible about where you go. If you have specific destinations and dates in mind, oddly it's not all that cheap after all....

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:08

    Flights are only cheap if you're flexible about where you go. If you have specific destinations and dates in mind, oddly it's not all that cheap after all....

    true.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 21:09

    Yep, sent mine. All 24 minutes of it. Yes - 24 minutes.

    Suddenly my 7 minutes of unplanned randomly babbling on seems miniature!

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:09

    Yep, sent mine. All 24 minutes of it. Yes - 24 minutes.

    You say 24, I raise you 29.

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 21:09

    Suddenly my 7 minutes of unplanned randomly babbling on seems miniature!

    All are welcome. If everyone's was half an hour, I'd never get it done :)

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:09

    You say 24, I raise you 29.

    wow.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:10

    Word of warning, they've cottoned on to when the races are ;-)

    bad times :(

    But that only applies to F1 so you could get a cheap flight to an F3 event in France or Spain

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:10

    wow.

    I sort of went all Oscars at the end.

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:10

    You say 24, I raise you 29.

    ...

    *opens Audacity*

    "Hello, Scott again. So, RG thinks he can submit a longer review than me? Well..."

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:11

    "Hello, Scott again. So, RG thinks he can submit a longer review than me? Well..."

    I impressed myself, the TV didn't distract me or get in the background this time.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:12

    But that only applies to F1 so you could get a cheap flight to an F3 event in France or Spain

    true...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 21:12

    You say 24, I raise you 29.

    ...

    *opens Audacity*

    "Hello, Scott again. So, RG thinks he can submit a longer review than me? Well..."

    At around 7-8 minutes for my two files, it's all about quality over quantity for me ;)

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 21:12

    I sort of went all Oscars at the end.

    You cried?

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:13

    You cried?

    He thanked his family?

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:13

    true.

    :( Can I win the lottery now please? :(

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:13

    You cried?

    Did my own awards.

    I may have said Algusuari quite a few times.

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:14

    :( Can I win the lottery now please? :(

    where you planning to go?

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:14

    I may have said Algusuari quite a few times.

    i haven't managed to say that once this year.

    ...at least not correctly.

  • guille230608/12/2009 at 21:14

    have to go. writing a project to apply for a position in Argentina's national research system. see you!

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:14

    where you planning to go?

    3 guesses?

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:15

    have to go. writing a project to apply for a position in Argentina's national research system. see you!

    later guille.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:15

    have to go. writing a project to apply for a position in Argentina's national research system. see you!

    see you :)

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:15

    I may have said Algusuari quite a few times.

    Mine was a quick look at the season followed by a look at each team and then a look forward to 2010.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:15

    have to go. writing a project to apply for a position in Argentina's national research system. see you!

    see ya!

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:15

    i haven't managed to say that once this year.

    I can't believe you can't say Algusuari, Algusuari is so awesome is Aluguersari.

    See ya guille.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:15

    But that only applies to F1 so you could get a cheap flight to an F3 event in France or Spain

    true...

    Then you need to learn to drive from the passenger seat to get to the track

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)08/12/2009 at 21:15

    Night guys :)

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 21:16

    Hiya

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:16

    Night guys :)

    see you.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:16

    Bye Guille. Good luck with the project

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:16

    where you planning to go?

    nowhere at that price....

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:16

    Hiya

    hi jackie.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:16

    Hiya

    evening

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:16

    Mine was a quick look at the season followed by a look at each team and then a look forward to 2010.

    I went race by race, little recap at the end.

    Bye Gavin, hey jackie.

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 21:16

    I'm a happy bunny .. that site has taken down all our articles they nicked

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 21:16

    Mine was a quick look at the season followed by a look at each team and then a look forward to 2010.

    See, yours sounds really organised and good. Mine is honestly a babbling mess of words that, upon listening back, convinced myself that I was drunk whilst recording. Should be fun though I suppose :P

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:17

    Night guys :)

    bye!

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 21:17

    Bye Gavin, hey jackie.

    Bye Gavin .. Hi RG

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:17

    Bye Gavin

    Hi Jackie

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:17

    I'm a happy bunny .. that site has taken down all our articles they nicked

    aha!

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:17

    I'm a happy bunny .. that site has taken down all our articles they nicked

    go jackie!!

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 21:18

    aha!

    Mav wrote to then to say they didnt have permission .. was surprised they did it though

  • RG08/12/2009 at 21:18

    I'm a happy bunny .. that site has taken down all our articles they nicked

    wooooo.

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 21:18

    I'm a happy bunny .. that site has taken down all our articles they nicked

    Yay :)

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 21:18

    go jackie!!

    Go Mav actually .. wasn't me at all

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:18

    Go Mav actually .. wasn't me at all

    hehe.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:18

    Then you need to learn to drive from the passenger seat to get to the track

    what a glamorous life i hope to lead ;)

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:19

    Hiya

    hey

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 21:19

    It was funny yesterday as we had put a no copying without written permission on the bottom of the last blog and they posted that too

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:19

    Mav wrote to then to say they didnt have permission .. was surprised they did it though

    Unbelievable

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 21:20

    Unbelievable

    It seems they just have the bbc Benson blog and F1 Minute as their "sources" now

  • jackie08/12/2009 at 21:22

    So anything exciting happening here? (well I know it's always exciting here) .. I mean anything extra special

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:22

    what a glamorous life i hope to lead ;)

    drivers wife?

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:23

    See, yours sounds really organised and good. Mine is honestly a babbling mess of words that, upon listening back, convinced myself that I was drunk whilst recording. Should be fun though I suppose :P

    I was going to read from a script, but decided to just talk and see where I could go with it. Amazingly I didn't make as many mistakes as I thought I would.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:24

    drivers wife?

    hahahaha naaah.. photography is the only way forward... expensive flights, left hand drive cars and everything ;)

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:26

    hahahaha naaah.. photography is the only way forward... expensive flights, left hand drive cars and everything ;)

    Yes, left hand. On the PROPER side of the car!

    ;)

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:26

    Yes, left hand. On the PROPER side of the car!

    am only just used to right hand drive cars :P

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:28

    drivers wife?

    That doesn't seem to be very glamourous.... They seem to be easily left behind.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:28

    am only just used to right hand drive cars :P

    Yeah, I know. If I had to drive a right hand manual car I'd miss shifts constantly.

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:29

    That doesn't seem to be very glamourous.... They seem to be easily left behind.

    grid girl?

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:30

    grid girl?

    Hahah yeah Lou, forget photography!! You can hold a flagpole.

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:30

    Hahah yeah Lou, forget photography!! You can hold a flagpole.

    f1 isn't that glamourous is it :(

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:31

    grid girl?

    I predict that Mrs. C is beating the **** out of Mr. C right now.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:31

    Hahah yeah Lou, forget photography!! You can hold a flagpole.

    and get sunstroke/ burnt/very wet/cold in the process? humph... i'd rather do something productive like photography :P

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:31

    I just had a look on my audio recording and my rant on Toyota was about 2 and half minutes long :D

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:32

    I predict that Mrs. C is beating the **** out of Mr. C right now.

    why? we like fosters girls, and they are quite glamourous.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 21:32

    f1 isn't that glamourous is it :(

    nope.. but i'm hoping it's as awesome as i think it is....

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:32

    Yes, left hand. On the PROPER side of the car!

    It is the wrong side of the car

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 21:32

    and get sunstroke/ burnt/very wet/cold in the process? humph... i'd rather do something productive like photography :P

    could be a mole... standing there on the grid with the pole thing, with all those people walking around as if you aren't there.. could pick up lots of info..

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:33

    why? we like fosters girls, and they are quite glamourous.

    What's the point of them?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:33

    Yeah, I know. If I had to drive a right hand manual car I'd miss shifts constantly.

    You wouldn't. After a few minutes you just do it

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:33

    Yes, left hand. On the PROPER side of the car!

    It is the wrong side of the car

    it is the correct side of the car.

  • me08/12/2009 at 21:33

    What's the point of them?

    if you're going that route. what's the point of going around circles ever sunday?

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:34

    You wouldn't. After a few minutes you just do it

    A few minutes?? I spent a whole day reaching for the gear stick and punching the door....

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:34

    What's the point of them?

    They hold the numbers so that drivers know where to stop on the grid and they advertise the sponsors

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:35

    They hold the numbers so that drivers know where to stop on the grid and they advertise the sponsors

    Ah yes. I think there would be more room for advertising if they had more clothes on.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:35

    it is the correct side of the car.

    It's weird to sit on he left side of the car. You have a dor against your left shoulder instead of having room and your right side feels exposed without having a lumo if metal gainst it.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:36

    A few minutes?? I spent a whole day reaching for the gear stick and punching the door....

    I have switched between left and right hand drive quite a few times and rarely had a problem after the irst few minutes

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:37

    Ah yes. I think there would be more room for advertising if they had more clothes on.

    But there would be fewer people looking at them

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:37

    I have switched between left and right hand drive quite a few times and rarely had a problem after the irst few minutes

    I can do it. I obviously don't pay a lot of attention when I drive though. I just instinctively want to change gear and my left hand reaches out. Right into the door.....

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:38

    I have switched between left and right hand drive quite a few times and rarely had a problem after the irst few minutes

    Left foot braking and heel and toe'ing kinda mess with me, too, but I'm working on that!

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:39

    I can do it. I obviously don't pay a lot of attention when I drive though. I just instinctively want to change gear and my left hand reaches out. Right into the door.....

    I'm driving an automatic right now while my car (a manual) is in the shop. My left foot feels awfully lonely and is always looking for the clutch.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:39

    Left foot braking and heel and toe'ing kinda mess with me, too, but I'm working on that!

    Do the peddles swap?? I hadn't thought about it....

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:40

    Left foot braking and heel and toe'ing kinda mess with me, too, but I'm working on that!

    That just takes practise and you need to do it all the time. Left foot braking is risky though

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:40

    Do the peddles swap?? I hadn't thought about it....

    I don't think so. l - r it's: clutch - brake - accelerator. I've heard the Top Gear folks talk about left foot braking so I'm pretty sure the layout is the same.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:41

    Why would you want to brake with your right foot then?

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:41

    Why would you want to brake with your right foot then?

    Left even....

  • Scott Woodwiss08/12/2009 at 21:42

    Left even....

    In a racing car to help try and balance the car better, I think.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:42

    I'm driving an automatic right now while my car (a manual) is in the shop. My left foot feels awfully lonely and is always looking for the clutch.

    I only ever had one automatic car. I decided I wanted to see if I could live with one. I got stuck twice in snow with it which answered my question because I never get stuck. When I switched back to a manual I was OK most of the time but if I was on a motorway for a while I kept stalling at the exit because I forgot about the clutch

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:42

    Do the peddles swap?? I hadn't thought about it....

    No

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:43

    Left even....

    In a racing car to help try and balance the car better, I think.

    you want to try and keep the engine revs within a certain range. Or something.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:43

    you want to try and keep the engine revs within a certain range. Or something.

    RIght but it's not to do with driving on the wrong side of the car/road?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:44

    Why would you want to brake with your right foot then?

    Left even....

    It comes from rallying and is now used in racing. When I had an automatic I used one foot on each pedal just like karting. Occasionally I will left foot brake if I know I am not going to change gear before a corner and I am in a hurry because it is faster but in a manual car you have to find a way to program your brain to know which foot your are going to brake with at any time or there is the possibility of big problems

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 21:45

    RIght but it's not to do with driving on the wrong side of the car/road?

    oh, no, nothing to do with that. it's all about racing (which I do _NOT_ do on the street, or at all right now, but I want too)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:46

    RIght but it's not to do with driving on the wrong side of the car/road?

    No. The pedals are always in the same place unless you get into some really old cars when you can have the accelerator in the middle or even the accelerator and brake stacked vertically

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:50

    No. The pedals are always in the same place unless you get into some really old cars when you can have the accelerator in the middle or even the accelerator and brake stacked vertically

    Okay. I was thinking they must be or I'd have smacked into a wall....

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:52

    Okay. I was thinking they must be or I'd have smacked into a wall....

    What you have to remember is if you put the clutch on the floor and the engine is doing 8000 revs then its not the clutch its the accelerator.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 21:53

    What you have to remember is if you put the clutch on the floor and the engine is doing 8000 revs then its not the clutch its the accelerator.

    Yeah you're really talking to the wrong girl here.... 8000 revs = LOUD?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 21:58

    Yeah you're really talking to the wrong girl here.... 8000 revs = LOUD?

    In that case you will spot the subtle clue if you get the pedals mixed up.

  • RG08/12/2009 at 22:02

    Can't remember if I have said this, Mr Walk n Talk himself Jake Humprhey is on Fighting Talk this Saturday.

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:07

    ooh, did i miss this news?

    Danica Patrick has announced she will run a partial NASCAR Nationwide Series season in 2010

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80490

  • Kris Boardman08/12/2009 at 22:08

    Hi Christine and Mr C,

    I tried to post this yesterday and I dont know what happened (my 6 year old computer or user error more likely!).

    I was wondering if you have any plans to catch up with Joe before Christmas? I know he's away at the moment but thought it might be good to catch up to discuss the end of the season review edition of GP+ (When it is published), the recent withdrawal of Toyota, Merc buying Brawn and the Silverstone deal.

    Also thought it might be good to listen to what Joe thought of the motorsport forum.

    Keep up the good work

    Kris

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:10

    Danica Patrick has announced she will run a partial NASCAR Nationwide Series season in 2010

    That was announced a few weeks ago. She is doing NASCAR events that don't clash with the Indy races

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:10

    I tried to post this yesterday and I dont know what happened (my 6 year old computer or user error more likely!).

    I saw your comment yesterday

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:11

    I tried to post this yesterday and I dont know what happened (my 6 year old computer or user error more likely!).

    got it and replied kris: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/12/07/f1-debrief-there-must-be-disco/#comment-619273

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:11

    That was announced a few weeks ago. She is doing NASCAR events that don't clash with the Indy races

    it was?

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:12

    Danica Patrick has announced she will run a partial NASCAR Nationwide Series season in 2010

    That was announced a few weeks ago. She is doing NASCAR events that don't clash with the Indy races

    Technically it was only announced today - the IndyCar stuff was announced a few weeks ago. But on that day, the webmaster of her official fan site put up a pic of her in her NASCAR race suit - it is identical to her IndyCar suit but with a 'Nationwide Series' and Chevy logo

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:12

    Technically it was only announced today - the IndyCar stuff was announced a few weeks ago. But on that day, the webmaster of her official fan site put up a pic of her in her NASCAR race suit - it is identical to her IndyCar suit but with a 'Nationwide Series' and Chevy logo

    oops. admin fail :)

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:13

    Technically it was only announced today - the IndyCar stuff was announced a few weeks ago. But on that day, the webmaster of her official fan site put up a pic of her in her NASCAR race suit - it is identical to her IndyCar suit but with a 'Nationwide Series' and Chevy logo

    Needless to say within ten minutes it had been replaced but Twitterers were paying attention ;-)

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:14

    how #mfc is this?

    http://www.stuartcodling.com/2009/12/on-the-road-to-monaco/comment-page-1/#comment-45

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:18

    how #mfc is this?

    MFC and a mention of gaff. Very SPC

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 22:18

    morning all. I got up at 6.30 today and was wide awake. It was a new and scary feeling.

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:18

    MFC and a mention of gaff. Very SPC

    :)

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:18
  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:19

    morning all. I got up at 6.30 today and was wide awake. It was a new and scary feeling.

    blimey. care to share how?

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:19

    morning all. I got up at 6.30 today and was wide awake. It was a new and scary feeling.

    christine isn't even asleep yet?

  • Christine08/12/2009 at 22:20

    christine isn't even asleep yet?

    Hi.

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:20

    christine isn't even asleep yet?

    Hi.

    see!

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:20

    morning all. I got up at 6.30 today and was wide awake. It was a new and scary feeling.

    Take pills and go straight back to bed before it becomes a habit

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 22:21

    *mind melts*

    Hello again. Resting the brain for the night, have spent 10 hours doing VB work

  • Kris Boardman08/12/2009 at 22:22

    Mr C said:

    got it and replied kris: http://sidepod...disco/#comment-619273

    Thanks very much Mr C - sorry for the duplicate post. At this rate there is a danger that technology could be passing me by!!

    Sounds like Joe is just as busy during the off season as he is during it.

    Thanks again

    Kris

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:22

    Hello again. Resting the brain for the night, have spent 10 hours doing VB work

    aww. how's it look?

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 22:22

    the trick was falling asleep watching tv at 8.30 last night while fully clothed, coat and boots and all. Then I woke up at 10 and went 'blurgh sleepy' put my pjs on and went back to sleep.

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:22

    Sounds like Joe is just as busy during the off season as he is during it.

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/forums-in-monte-carlo-and-orlando/

    ...yup :)

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 22:23

    aww. how's it look?

    Making my way there. Just a few bugs to iron out with search for items and getting a login to work with a text file properly but by the end of the week I will have my sanity back :)

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 22:23

    Evening all.

    Ran in to Chairman Allen on the way back from dinner (which was very nice, and all the better for being on Lord H's tab). Apparently Alex Tai has cried off but Gerard Lopez is going to be her tomorrow. In fact, JA was off to meet him as we spoke. La-di-dah.

    Dinner was very illustrative, in that there were lots of F1 people there trying to crawl up backsides in order to secure deals – eg a certain photo agency entertaining a certain circuit boss. Also, that sinister-looking goatee'd bloke (whose name I forget, but is always ushering drivers up to the podium post-race) was dining with some fellow from Sepang.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 22:23

    Hello again. Resting the brain for the night, have spent 10 hours doing VB work

    Visual Basic?

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 22:23

    Visual Basic?

    Yus.

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:23

    Making my way there. Just a few bugs to iron out with search for items and getting a login to work with a text file properly but by the end of the week I will have my sanity back :)

    you put login details in a text file? are you hoping for a job at mediatemple?

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 22:24

    Visual Basic?

    Yus.

    I'm sorry

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:26

    the trick was falling asleep watching tv at 8.30 last night while fully clothed, coat and boots and all. Then I woke up at 10 and went 'blurgh sleepy' put my pjs on and went back to sleep.

    Ah. Collapsing with tiredness isn't good.

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 22:26

    And so it is! In Ian's defence, he was probably typing on his BlackBerry - and anyway, he does sales and I do words!

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:26

    Evening all.

    spooky!

    Ran in to Chairman Allen on the way back from dinner

    hehe. what a title :) :)

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 22:26

    Eh? How did that blockquote strangeness happen?

  • Alianora La Canta08/12/2009 at 22:26

    Question on celebrity Eggheads

    The Honda F1 team was renamed what in 2009?

    Red Bull apparently is the wrong answer {Comment #502}

    I think I know why there are so many F1 questions on Eggheads - most of the time, the people asked get it wrong. I remember one episode a few weeks back where the following exchange happened:

    Question: Which team did Giancarlo Fisichella drive for at the start of 2008? (The offered choices were Force India, Toyota and Toro Rosso)

    Response (paraphrased): Er... ...I don't know, but... [pause] ...I'll go with Toyota because it finishes with the same letter (I think the contestant did some further justification of this line of thinking but I was laughing too hard to hear)

    Correct Answer: Force India

    There was also the occasion a few weeks back when the question "Which country has won 9 F1 World Championships?". The contestant answered "Brazil", whereupon I started shouting at the TV. Not, you note, because I'd worked out that Brazil wasn't the answer, but because the only plausible-looking answer was the UK... ...and thanks to an unfortunate delay between filming and screening, Jenson Button had just taken the number of F1 World Championships the UK had won to ten.

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 22:27

    if i was a male i would make it my life goal to be called a 'sinister looking goatee'd bloke'

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:27

    Evening all.

    Ah evening, was just reading your blog.

    Dinner was very illustrative, in that there were lots of F1 people there trying to crawl up backsides in order to secure deals – eg a certain photo agency entertaining a certain circuit boss. Also, that sinister-looking goatee'd bloke (whose name I forget, but is always ushering drivers up to the podium post-race) was dining with some fellow from Sepang.

    Monaco seems to be where the deals are done..

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:27

    Eh? How did that blockquote strangeness happen?

    fixed.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 22:28

    if i was a male i would make it my life goal to be called a 'sinister looking goatee'd bloke'

    It's easy for a male to grow a goatee... now, a woman with a sinister looking goatee, that'd be something special! :D

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 22:29

    if i was a male i would make it my life goal to be called a 'sinister looking goatee'd bloke'

    why let a little thing like gender get in the way? :P you just need to go to F1 themed fancy dress

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:29

    Emily can come on saturday! :D yay!! Mum is no happy i wont be in london on my own so i can come too! *changes wiki page*..

    woot! :)

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:30

    Emily can come on saturday! :D yay!! Mum is no happy i wont be in london on my own so i can come too! *changes wiki page*..

    woot! :)

    yay!

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 22:30

    now, a woman with a sinister looking goatee, that'd be something special!

    Could start a circus...

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:30

    Emily can come on saturday! :D yay!! Mum is no happy i wont be in london on my own so i can come too! *changes wiki page*..
    woot! :)

    yay!

    seconded.

    (adds extra box or two of wine to list)

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 22:31

    If you drive an automatic, you should be left foot braking. It is much safer after the initial awkwardness.

    It is a great skill to have in a racecar, especially on dirt, but it has saved me on the road as well because my foot was already hovering over the brake pedal ( not that you leave it there all the time )

  • RG08/12/2009 at 22:32

    boo, gotta go to bed. Soo yeah, night all. lotsa love.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:33

    Emily can come on saturday! :D yay!! Mum is no happy i wont be in london on my own so i can come too! *changes wiki page*..

    woot! :)

    yay!

    seconded.

    (adds extra box or two of wine to list)

    :D hehehe ;)

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:33

    (adds extra box or two of wine to list)

    Quick question for the guys coming. What do you think I should do?

    A) Drive to Alex's

    B) Get Public Transport

    A) takes an hour and a half less time at least. B) means I can drink.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:33

    I think I know why there are so many F1 questions on Eggheads - most of the time, the people asked get it wrong. I remember one episode a few weeks back where the following exchange happened:

    All BBC quiz shows have had loads of F1 questions since the Beeb got the races back

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 22:33

    oh i rang my mum last night and told her of my war grave investigation and she said the very first thing my nana said when she told her i was going to europe was "i wonder if she will go visit lauries grave in italy" so we must be working on the same wavelength. Spooky.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:33

    boo, gotta go to bed. Soo yeah, night all. lotsa love.

    goodnight..

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:33

    boo, gotta go to bed. Soo yeah, night all. lotsa love.

    night

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:33

    All BBC quiz shows have had loads of F1 questions since the Beeb got the races back

    Can't think why (sarcastic)

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:34

    Quick question for the guys coming. What do you think I should do?

    depends what you are doing on sunday? ;)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:34

    Emily can come on saturday! :D yay!! Mum is no happy i wont be in london on my own so i can come too! *changes wiki page*..

    woot! :)

    That should liven things up

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:34

    boo, gotta go to bed. Soo yeah, night all. lotsa love.

    night chap.

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:35

    depends what you are doing on sunday? ;)

    Well at the moment I'm staying at my parents overnight, then getting home on Sunday

  • RG08/12/2009 at 22:35

    That should liven things up

    I see Steven is suggesting live streaming, that should make it much more fun.

    #nothere.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:36

    I see Steven is suggesting live streaming, that should make it much more fun.

    does live streaming mean that the chances of me being able to steal a mac are smaller? not that i would ever steal anyone's macbook.... *whistles*...

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:36

    (adds extra box or two of wine to list)

    Quick question for the guys coming. What do you think I should do?

    A) Drive to Alex's

    B) Get Public Transport

    A) takes an hour and a half less time at least. B) means I can drink.

    I think you may want to drink. I gather most others will be.. And it depends what parking is like in the area, being That London I'd guess not good.

    I was weighing what I'd do if I'd go :-) I'd like to but it depends on something...

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:36

    eg a certain photo agency entertaining a certain circuit boss

    i think i may need more clues :(

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:37

    #sidepodspace

    Just catching up on the Sky at Night on the iplayer. Some of you will remember we watched a spacecraft impact the moon to throw up a huge debris cloud that turned out to b a mjaor disappointment. Well they have analysed the data now and they say that the following space craft detected 24 gallons of water which is a huge amount.

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:37

    I think you may want to drink. I gather most others will be.. And it depends what parking is like in the area, being That London I'd guess not good.

    I was weighing what I'd do if I'd go :-) I'd like to but it depends on something...

    Ok, looks like public transport then. Better stock up on podcasts for my ipod...

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:37

    does live streaming mean that the chances of me being able to steal a mac are smaller? not that i would ever steal anyone's macbook.... *whistles*...

    why would you want a melted, wine stained mac with a missing question mark?

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:38

    why would you want a melted, wine stained mac with a missing question mark?

    am willing to be it's still better than my stupid acer laptop...

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:38

    I see Steven is suggesting live streaming, that should make it much more fun.

    Bassano is organising live streaming of Giggles baking.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:39

    am willing to bet it's still better than my stupid acer laptop...

    why am i unable to type/spell today :(

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:39

    Ok, looks like public transport then. Better stock up on podcasts for my ipod...

    I was looking at driving because I prefer it, and my portable devices are old and have no battery life any more.. but there's the fuel and parking costs..

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:39

    why would you want a melted, wine stained mac with a missing question mark?

    I think she would prefer Alex's mac which has all its faculties

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:39

    Bassano is organising live streaming of Giggles baking.

    He is?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:40

    Bassano is organising live streaming of Giggles baking.

    He is?

    He said he was and of course I encouraged him. I think he should stir the baking mixture with his orange drill

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:40

    Just catching up on the Sky at Night on the iplayer. Some of you will remember we watched a spacecraft impact the moon to throw up a huge debris cloud that turned out to b a mjaor disappointment. Well they have analysed the data now and they say that the following space craft detected 24 gallons of water which is a huge amount.

    wow!

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:41

    am willing to be it's still better than my stupid acer laptop...

    *remembers to pack eeepc*

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 22:42

    South of the Upper Norwood 'triangle' parking isn't so bad. You could stick your car on Mowbray Road – never full, and I didn't have any crime trouble in over four years there.

    Only prob is that you'll have to walk up a big hill to get to Andronov Manor...

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 22:42

    *remembers to pack eeepc*

    Christine should take her mac mini for balance

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 22:42

    I cocked up the blockquote again...

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:43

    Christine should take her mac mini for balance

    it's a bit small to lean on?

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:43

    I cocked up the blockquote again...

    :D:D

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 22:44

    it's a bit small to lean on?

    one for each foot to stop them jiggling?

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:44

    I cocked up the blockquote again...

    Mst have been good wine tonight in Monaco

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 22:44

    Anyway, my advice was aimed at Pat and Chris. Off to bed now because it's another early start in the morning. Wouldn't want to miss Chairman Allen's opening address...

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:45

    Anyway, my advice was aimed at Pat and Chris.

    Thanks Stuart. Night!

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:45

    Anyway, my advice was aimed at Pat and Chris. Off to bed now because it's another early start in the morning. Wouldn't want to miss Chairman Allen's opening address...

    Cheers.

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:45

    Anyway, my advice was aimed at Pat and Chris. Off to bed now because it's another early start in the morning. Wouldn't want to miss Chairman Allen's opening address...

    :)

    good night sir.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:46

    Night Stuart

  • Stuart C08/12/2009 at 22:46

    Mst have been good wine tonight in Monaco

    At the risk of wrecking the site again, yes it was.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:46

    So yeah, the other day I was 60-40 against going. Now I am 70-30 in favour but need a big favour.... can I have somewhere to sleep please? :-)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:46

    Mst have been good wine tonight in Monaco

    At the risk of wrecking the site again, yes it was.

    It worked

  • Alianora La Canta08/12/2009 at 22:48

    You say 24, I raise you 29. {Comment #695}

    I'll tell you what I'll raise you to when my computer figures out that one of the two files it has been sent is in fact a sound file (luckily it was the smaller one)...

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:48

    So yeah, the other day I was 60-40 against going. Now I am 70-30 in favour but need a big favour.... can I have somewhere to sleep please? :-)

    unfortunately, i've already bagged the passenger seat.

    can offer you some boot space, but i can't promise you'll end up anywhere near your intended destination?

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:48

    *remembers to pack eeepc*

    :D

    my laptop is an embarrassment most of the time... and i refuse to take it with me anywhere other than school on the odd occasion.

    Speaking of school i ventured into the IT offices to talk to a technician about some requests made by students about macbooks and why they couldn't be connected to the network. The IT guy almost shouted at me that it wasn't possible to connect Macbooks to the WIFI at school because they needed to set up a different network for them and it was very complicated and was a waste of time...after that i stopped listening to the rantings and once he finished i scuttled back to the common room... school IT technicians are scary...

    it confused me because i didn't think there would be a difference?

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:49

    Anyway, my advice was aimed at Pat and Chris. Off to bed now because it's another early start in the morning. Wouldn't want to miss Chairman Allen's opening address...

    have fun! night

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:49

    school IT technicians are scary...

    Not all of us! Just him...

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 22:49

    i wonder if there is somewhere in london i could hire someone to be me for the night so i can attend the party. I bet there is.

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:50

    it confused me because i didn't think there would be a difference?

    there isn't.

    not at all. zero. nothing.

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 22:50

    can offer you some boot space, but i can't promise you'll end up anywhere near your intended destination?

    Well, ya know Ross Kemp can fit in the boot of the Renault Twingo quite comfortably...

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:50

    Not all of us! Just him...

    i never see them leave the offices apart from going home.. or helping a teacher with something... they always seem so grumpy at school....

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:51

    i never see them leave the offices apart from going home.. or helping a teacher with something... they always seem so grumpy at school....

    I think it depends on the school. The one I'm doing placement at we're all happy and friendly.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 22:52

    i never see them leave the offices apart from going home.. or helping a teacher with something... they always seem so grumpy at school....

    Sounds just like the lab technicians when I was at school. The only thing that interested them was getting through the day without doing any work.

    Don't let people that shout at you scare you or put you off. They do not have the right to shout at you and if he does it again report him.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:52

    So yeah, the other day I was 60-40 against going. Now I am 70-30 in favour but need a big favour.... can I have somewhere to sleep please? :-)

    unfortunately, i've already bagged the passenger seat.

    can offer you some boot space, but i can't promise you'll end up anywhere near your intended destination?

    Cheers, but I'm not sure spare tyres, even the half ones, are all that comfy! Still, magical mystery tour,hm...

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:52

    it confused me because i didn't think there would be a difference?

    there isn't.

    not at all. zero. nothing.

    *pauses*.... this makes no sense to me. Most of the student (especially the borders) have macbooks but aren't allowed to connect them to the network... so they've bought PC's too (the boarding students that is).. seems like such a waste..

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 22:52

    i never see them leave the offices apart from going home.. or helping a teacher with something... they always seem so grumpy at school....

    One of my co-workers introduced me to her husband as "our IT guy". Boy was I ********.

    I'm a ticked off systems engineer, there's a difference! :D

  • Jeremy08/12/2009 at 22:52

    Speaking of school i ventured into the IT offices to talk to a technician about some requests made by students about macbooks and why they couldn't be connected to the network. The IT guy almost shouted at me that it wasn't possible to connect Macbooks to the WIFI at school because they needed to set up a different network for them and it was very complicated and was a waste of time...after that i stopped listening to the rantings and once he finished i scuttled back to the common room... school IT technicians are scary...

    this makes me super angry. Grrrrrr!

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:53

    school IT technicians are scary...

    Not all of us! Just him...

    Heh, I know a couple and they are deliberately scary/evasive :-)

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:53

    One of my co-workers introduced me to her husband as "our IT guy". Boy was I ******.

    language!

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 22:53

    language!

    sorry, upset.

    See, I'm still upset about it :)

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:53

    it confused me because i didn't think there would be a difference?

    Even a home wifi wouldn't matter. Dad has a desktop PC and my stepmum's Mac laptop running off the same wifi.

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:53

    Heh, I know a couple and they are deliberately scary/evasive :-)

    Why do I feel I'm on the losing side of this conversation?

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:54

    Don't let people that shout at you scare you or put you off. They do not have the right to shout at you and if he does it again report him.

    i wont be going near the IT offices in a hurry again ;) i'll talk to the deputy head (who gives me all my prefect work) in my next meeting with her and she can bring it up with the headmaster or relevant people :)

  • RG08/12/2009 at 22:54

    Why do I feel I'm on the losing side of this conversation?

    IT guys are awesome

    #nothere

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:54

    i wont be going near the IT offices in a hurry again ;) i'll talk to the deputy head (who gives me all my prefect work) in my next meeting with her and she can bring it up with the headmaster or relevant people :)

    Do you know his name?

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:54

    Why do I feel I'm on the losing side of this conversation?

    IT guys are awesome

    #nothere

    Ta! :)

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:55

    Do you know his name?

    nope.. i know him as the tall IT technician :)

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:55

    nope.. i know him as the tall IT technician :)

    *tall and grumpy

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 22:56

    Eurgh IT technicians :S

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:56

    nope.. i know him as the tall IT technician :)

    We have that problem at work. There are 3 tall, thin IT technicians. It's great fun trying to work out who had spoken to the pupil in the past!

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 22:57

    Why do I feel I'm on the losing side of this conversation?

    One of the guys I know doesn't accept teachers sending students on errands to pick up ink cartridges and insists on being sent an email..

  • lou08/12/2009 at 22:58

    *tall and grumpy

    i didn't know him as grumpy till today... although i did once the other guy in boots getting a meal deal and he looked super grumpy lol :)

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 22:58

    One of the guys I know doesn't accept teachers sending students on errands to pick up ink cartridges and insists on being sent an email..

    This reminds me a lot of my experiences....

    I mainly have one large issue with my printer at work!!

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:59

    i didn't know him as grumpy till today... although i did once the other guy in boots getting a meal deal and he looked super grumpy lol :)

    who can be grumpy at a boots meal deal i ask ya?

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 22:59

    I mainly have one large issue with my printer at work!!

    Hit it. It might not help, but it makes you feel a lot better!

  • jpancoast08/12/2009 at 22:59

    I mainly have one large issue with my printer at work!!

    grrrr... if I start talking about printers, I'll be banned from here forever.

  • Alianora La Canta08/12/2009 at 22:59

    All BBC quiz shows have had loads of F1 questions since the Beeb got the races back {Comment #840}

    That's true, but it's almost as if competitors switch their brains off when they hear such a question, to an extent I don't see them doing with other questions...

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:59

    I mainly have one large issue with my printer at work!!

    don't tell me... it picks on you?

  • me08/12/2009 at 22:59

    grrrr... if I start talking about printers, I'll be banned from here forever.

    :D

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:00

    who can be grumpy at a boots meal deal i ask ya?

    hehe i know! :P at school going to boots for lunch is a luxury ;)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:00

    grrrr... if I start talking about printers, I'll be banned from here forever.

    The first company to make a good reliable printer with ink that doesn't cost more than gold will own the world

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 23:00

    hehe i know! :P at school going to boots for lunch is a luxury ;)

    See, now what your school needs...

    :P

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 23:01

    The first company to make a good reliable printer with ink that doesn't cost more than gold will own the world

    until they go bankrupt because they aren't selling replacement printers and the ink supplies don't make enough margin to support themselves..

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:01

    See, now what your school needs...

    no we don't!.. :P

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:01

    The first company to make a good reliable printer with ink that doesn't cost more than gold will own the world

    There's a simple answer - get a laser printer. Price per page is much cheaper.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 23:01

    until they go bankrupt because they aren't selling replacement printers and the ink supplies don't make enough margin to support themselves..

    curse this realist accountancy brain

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 23:01

    See, now what your school needs...

    My friends uni in Guildford has a Subway and a Starbucks! No Greggs unfortunatly...

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:01

    That's true, but it's almost as if competitors switch their brains off when they hear such a question, to an extent I don't see them doing with other questions...

    I think because it is a new subject to them. Particulalry on Eggheads you will hear them talk about the subjects that they read up on because they come up all the time in quizzes. So when a brand new subject to them comes up they have no backgrounf info

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 23:02

    There's a simple answer - get a laser printer. Price per page is much cheaper.

    But more parts to go wrong

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:02

    My friends uni in Guildford has a Subway and a Starbucks! No Greggs unfortunatly...

    we have a cafe in our school.. it's called 'the atrium' but it's so expensive and far far away from the common room...

  • Lukeh08/12/2009 at 23:03

    no we don't!.. :P

    :D

    And with that I really need to go. Night all.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:03

    until they go bankrupt because they aren't selling replacement printers and the ink supplies don't make enough margin to support themselves..

    There has to be more margin in printer ink catridges than anything else on the planet

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:03

    And with that I really need to go. Night all.

    aww night Lukeh.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 23:03

    And with that I really need to go. Night all.

    night!

  • me08/12/2009 at 23:03

    And with that I really need to go. Night all.

    night lukeh.

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 23:03

    And with that I really need to go. Night all.

    Night!

  • emily08/12/2009 at 23:03

    we have a cafe in our school.. it's called 'the atrium' but it's so expensive and far far away from the common room...

    stop talking about school when you're outside of school. i'm poking you through the internet.

  • me08/12/2009 at 23:03

    stop talking about school when you're outside of school. i'm poking you through the internet.

    :P

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:04

    don't tell me... it picks on you?

    It loves me too much!!!

    It was broken, we sent it away for repair. The IT peoples said it was too badly broken and sent us a new one. This one was rrrrrrubbish and broke. We sent it off and were sent back the original useless printer we had originally......

    I now blame the IT department every time I can't go home on time because my end of night paperwork won't print sensibly!!

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 23:04

    stop talking about school when you're outside of school. i'm poking you through the internet.

    :-D

  • me08/12/2009 at 23:04

    It loves me too much!!!

    oh.

    It was broken, we sent it away for repair. The IT peoples said it was too badly broken and sent us a new one. This one was rrrrrrubbish and broke. We sent it off and were sent back the original useless printer we had originally......

    awesome!!

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:04

    stop talking about school when you're outside of school. i'm poking you through the internet.

    :D

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:05

    I now blame the IT department every time I can't go home on time because my end of night paperwork won't print sensibly!!

    I'm too scared to send it off again though.... Goodness only knows what hunk of junk I'd get back!

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:05

    stop talking about school when you're outside of school. i'm poking you through the internet.

    O.O you're on spc from your house! you're not in the next room or anything! .... this feels odd...

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:06

    There has to be more margin in printer ink catridges than anything else on the planet

    There is. HP for example are kept going by their printer ink revenue.

    To be fair to them though, the process of ink production is pretty involved - you have to create an ink that won't dry in the cartridge but will dry at an acceptable speed when sprayed onto paper. WIthout clogging the cartridge head.

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 23:06

    O.O you're on spc from your house!

    The next stage of sidepodadiction?

  • emily08/12/2009 at 23:06

    O.O you're on spc from your house! you're not in the next room or anything! .... this feels odd...

    i know. i'm shocked too. maybe you could buy me more red bull tomorrow and we'll speak no more of this.

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 23:06

    O.O you're on spc from your house! you're not in the next room or anything! .... this feels odd...

    Next stage: get interested in F1. although that hasn't stopped Alison.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:07

    The next stage of sidepodadiction?

    i think so ;)

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 23:07

    can i go home yet? Need to do that shopping i put off on sunday. #shoppingfortripin8monthstime

  • me08/12/2009 at 23:07

    as much as i'd love to hang out with you lovely lot, i fear i'm going to have to go develop something new and semi-exciting.

    okay, not exciting. but still... back in three or four hours. please don't do anything fun without me, and apologies if the scheduler takes aaaages to post the daily.

    xxx

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 23:07

    can i go home yet? Need to do that shopping i put off on sunday. #shoppingfortripin8monthstime

    blog about it

  • Pat W08/12/2009 at 23:07

    as much as i'd love to hang out with you lovely lot, i fear i'm going to have to go develop something new and semi-exciting.

    okay, not exciting. but still... back in three or four hours. please don't do anything fun without me, and apologies if the scheduler takes aaaages to post the daily.

    xxx

    see ya..

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:08

    But more parts to go wrong

    Perhaps, but the toner keeps longer and doesn't dry up.

    It's still cheaper per page and parts now pretty reliable. For simple printing, especially monochrome, then laser is the answer.

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 23:08

    hellooooo

    okay, not exciting. but still... back in three or four hours. please don't do anything fun without me, and apologies if the scheduler takes aaaages to post the daily.

    night Mr C

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:08

    i know. i'm shocked too. maybe you could buy me more red bull tomorrow and we'll speak no more of this.

    tomorrow = chocka day.. maybe if i'm alive by 4pm ;) or you can stick around here and continue on the ladder of sidepodaddiction ;)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:09

    To be fair to them though, the process of ink production is pretty involved - you have to create an ink that won't dry in the cartridge but will dry at an acceptable speed when sprayed onto paper. WIthout clogging the cartridge head.

    Hardly rocket science and doesn't come close to justifying the astronomical cost. Printer ink costs more than petrol or whisky or any other liquid you can name

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 23:09

    cant blog. At work.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:09

    as much as i'd love to hang out with you lovely lot, i fear i'm going to have to go develop something new and semi-exciting.

    okay, not exciting. but still... back in three or four hours. please don't do anything fun without me, and apologies if the scheduler takes aaaages to post the daily.

    xxx

    see ya mr c! have fun developing things...

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:09

    i know. i'm shocked too. maybe you could buy me more red bull tomorrow and we'll speak no more of this.

    Don't be shocked it happens to us all

  • emily08/12/2009 at 23:09

    Next stage: get interested in F1. although that hasn't stopped Alison.

    good point :D

  • me08/12/2009 at 23:09

    cant blog. At work.

    comment it and aggregate into a post later?

    #amgone

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:10

    comment it and aggregate into a post later?

    do we need to shoo you?

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 23:10

    comment it and aggregate into a post later?

    Shoo!

    (love saying that!)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:10

    can i go home yet? Need to do that shopping i put off on sunday. #shoppingfortripin8monthstime

    The last I heard you had about 5 hours to get dressed and go shopping on Sunday. How did you not make it?

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 23:10

    cant blog. Procrastinating.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:11

    as much as i'd love to hang out with you lovely lot, i fear i'm going to have to go develop something new and semi-exciting.

    Have fun

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:11

    Next stage: get interested in F1. although that hasn't stopped Alison.

    :D

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 23:12

    i didnt make it because i decided a weekend before christmas would be too full of people at the shops. Today i finish work at 330 which sounds like a much better time to me.

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:12

    Hardly rocket science and doesn't come close to justifying the astronomical cost. Printer ink costs more than petrol or whisky or any other liquid you can name

    Actually it is quite tricky, as a very informative talk I attended a couple of years ago explained. Like drug companies, the big manufacturers spend millions developing their product and then charge a fortune for the product to recoup their costs, then make a massive profit. I'm not defending their methods, just saying it's not that easy.

    Also, rocket science is relatively trivial once you have mastered the basics of control theory.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:15

    Actually it is quite tricky, as a very informative talk I attended a couple of years ago explained. Like drug companies, the big manufacturers spend millions developing their product and then charge a fortune for the product to recoup their costs, then make a massive profit. I'm not defending their methods, just saying it's not that easy.

    Yeah, it's simplistic to suggest that costs are restricted to production costs. There's huge behind the scenes costs associated with any industry like this. Maybe they don't conduct themselves ideally but that's their business model and they need to stick to it in order to produce funds for development.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:17

    Actually it is quite tricky, as a very informative talk I attended a couple of years ago explained. Like drug companies, the big manufacturers spend millions developing their product and then charge a fortune for the product to recoup their costs, then make a massive profit. I'm not defending their methods, just saying it's not that easy.

    I refuse to believe that making a liquid a certain colour and making it dry in a certain time is difficult. They have been making black computer ink for decades so the investment on development has been recouped many times over. All they have to do is make modifications to cope with the new delivery methods. There is no justification for moulded plastic with a spoonful of ink costing more than a couple of pounds.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:22

    Next stage: get interested in F1. although that hasn't stopped Alison.

    hehe she'd probably be the last one to admit it but emily knows a bit about f1 from my constant rantings about it... besides as two of the only Heikki fans Amy and Emily should stick together ;)

    #sorryheikki

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:22

    I refuse to believe that making a liquid a certain colour and making it dry in a certain time is difficult. They have been making black computer ink for decades so the investment on development has been recouped many times over. All they have to do is make modifications to cope with the new delivery methods. There is no justification for moulded plastic with a spoonful of ink costing more than a couple of pounds.

    If the true costs were indeed so low, why isn't there at least one rebellious retailer out selling at close to cost price?

    I think there are huge innovations to be made. Especially regarding people wanting to print photos at home. I'm sure inks need to be adapted greatly to give decent results.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:24

    If the true costs were indeed so low, why isn't there at least one rebellious retailer out selling at close to cost price?

    The problem is the manufacturers not the retailers.

    I think there are huge innovations to be made. Especially regarding people wanting to print photos at home. I'm sure inks need to be adapted greatly to give decent results.

    Look at your mobile phone. Ten years ago it made phone calls and texted. Now it has hundreds of functions and the price has not gone up. Printer cartridges and ink have been through minor changes and the price has gone up instead of down. We are being ripped off.

  • emily08/12/2009 at 23:25

    hehe she'd probably be the last one to admit it but emily knows a bit about f1 from my constant rantings about it... besides as two of the only Heikki fans Amy and Emily should stick together ;)

    oi ;) don't be hating. am off to sleep, and am now feeling vaguely annoyed about how expensive printer ink is.

    night spc. :)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:26

    Night Emily

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:26

    I think there are huge innovations to be made. Especially regarding people wanting to print photos at home. I'm sure inks need to be adapted greatly to give decent results.

    You try creating a liquid that does everything that printer ink does, including colour consistency, drying time, anti-clogging etc. It's not as easy as you'd think.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:26

    oi ;) don't be hating.

    hehe ;)

    night spc. :)

    night Em! (the addiction begins here :) )

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:27

    Look at your mobile phone. Ten years ago it made phone calls and texted. Now it has hundreds of functions and the price has not gone up. Printer cartridges and ink have been through minor changes and the price has gone up instead of down. We are being ripped off.

    Fair enough. I don't even own a printer. I just know that from my experience with other industries commonly identified as "overpriced" there are costs to be covered that people would never even have dreamed about....

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 23:27

    night Em! (the addiction begins here :) )

    thats a point, is she on the addiction page yet?

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 23:27

    night Em! (the addiction begins here :) )

    *evil laugh*

    Night!

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:28

    thats a point, is she on the addiction page yet?

    nope... feel free to add her to it though ;)

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 23:29

    nope... feel free to add her to it though ;)

    does she have a wiki page?

  • Chris08/12/2009 at 23:30

    does she have a wiki page?

    unfinished, but yes

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 23:31

    unfinished, but yes

    she's a fish apparently.

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:31

    The problem is the manufacturers not the retailers.

    I think it's known as the razor blade business model.

    There are alternatives - continuous ink systems for example. I still maintain that a laser is better for most general printing requirements.

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:31

    does she have a wiki page?

    yep.. although she used my log in to complete it ;)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:33

    You try creating a liquid that does everything that printer ink does, including colour consistency, drying time, anti-clogging etc. It's not as easy as you'd think.

    Look at the price of everything else in any shop you go into. The prices are all dropping like stones. You can get a laptop for £300 that will massively out perform computers costing 10 times as much ten years ago. You can buy any product that needed technical development cheaper today and get massively more functionality from it than the more expensive version ten years ago except for printer cartridges. The cartridges are moulded plastic and I have worked on developing spray applications similar to ink jets. The technical part costs nothing and the development cost is a few pence per cartridge maximum. Look at the number of cartridges sold and work out how much money is made from the ink. There is no possible way you can justify $1 per cartridge in ink developmnet costs. No possible way. The idea that cartridges cost what they do is obscene. They are a total rip off.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:36

    Laptop technology has many many applications and development costs are widely spread between them. Ink just prints....

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 23:37

    ooh Andy dont get me started on the price of razor blades!

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 23:37

    ooh Andy dont get me started on the price of razor blades!

    buy an electric shaver?

    *runs*

  • lou08/12/2009 at 23:39

    okay, time for me to get some sleep too. i've got such a busy day at school again tomorrow :(

    night all! xx

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 23:39

    okay, time for me to get some sleep too. i've got such a busy day at school again tomorrow :(

    night lou

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:41

    Just a quick example

    A plain black cartridge online from PC World costs £13.45. Say the cartridge with no ink would have a sale price of £5 which is fantasy because 50p would be closer. That means the ink would sell for £8.45. There is 5ml(one teaspoonful) of ink in the catridge so the ink sells for £1690 per litre. That is insane.

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/284022

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:41

    Night Lou

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:42

    ooh Andy dont get me started on the price of razor blades!

    Just don't shave?

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:44

    ooh Andy dont get me started on the price of razor blades!

    When I was growing my moustache I used the cheapest razors I could find. Normally I don't bother, using a beard trimmer is much better for my skin.

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:45

    When I was growing my moustache I used the cheapest razors I could find. Normally I don't bother, using a beard trimmer is much better for my skin.

    Strangely, razors marketed at women are usually more expensive than those aimed at men which I think is super ridiculous....

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 23:46

    Just don't shave?

    Andy didnt...for a whole month ;)

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:46

    Strangely, razors marketed at women are usually more expensive than those aimed at men which I think is super ridiculous....

    Women are prepared to pay more. Simple as that

  • Amy08/12/2009 at 23:46

    i only shave as a backup for those times i have been too lazy to wax which means a pack of blades lasts me forever but i still hate paying $20ish for a 4 pack!

  • Alison08/12/2009 at 23:46

    Women are prepared to pay more. Simple as that

    I would just buy mens ones....

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:47

    They are a total rip off.

    Not totally, remember that the manufacturers have sold you the printer at or below cost, so they have to make some money back on that as well. I do agree that the costs are too high though.

    I think it's interesting that Kodak have taken a different approach - their new inkjet system has much lower running costs, but you pay a bit more for the printer up front.

  • Steven Roy08/12/2009 at 23:52

    Not totally, remember that the manufacturers have sold you the printer at or below cost, so they have to make some money back on that as well. I do agree that the costs are too high though.

    They cannot justify £1690 per litre regardless how it is presented. This is something they make in industrial quantities like any other complex liquid. I worked with a company that was looking at making air fresheners using the same technology as an ink jet with a follow on process added. The final product was going to sell for less than £3 including battery.

    Printers cost nothing to make. I took several apart to try to make a product I was developing and there is nothing in them that is remotely expensive to make or develop.

  • Andy Taylor08/12/2009 at 23:52

    Andy didnt...for a whole month ;)

    Actually I shaved more last month than I have for years. Maintaining the Mo was quite time consuming. Now I'm back to facial hair again.

  • Jon Waldock08/12/2009 at 23:56

    Actually I shaved more last month than I have for years. Maintaining the Mo was quite time consuming. Now I'm back to facial hair again.

    ah yes it was Movember, not no shave November

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:02

    Evening all, Wednesday's late

  • Steven Roy09/12/2009 at 00:03

    Evening all, Wednesday's late

    Evening. OMG It's midnight

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:03

    Actually I shaved more last month than I have for years. Maintaining the Mo was quite time consuming. Now I'm back to facial hair again.

    I hate shaving too

    I have to go from crown to adam's apple so a sharp blade is more essential and doesn't last as long either :(

  • Amy09/12/2009 at 00:05

    quick, someone post some spam so the new daily appears!

  • Alison09/12/2009 at 00:05

    Evening all, Wednesday's late

    Woah where's your clapper??

  • Jon Waldock09/12/2009 at 00:06

    Woah where's your clapper??

    exactly!

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:06

    Woah where's your clapper??

    I 'm trying the week without it

    [actually, it's just silent]

  • Jon Waldock09/12/2009 at 00:06

    Woah where's your clapper??

    http://openclipart.org/people/Stellaris/Stellaris_Clapper-board.png

    there it is

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:07

    Woah where's your clapper??

    http://opencli...ris_Clapper-board.png

    there it is

    Actually, it's more of one of these

  • Alison09/12/2009 at 00:08

    I 'm trying the week without it

    [actually, it's just silent]

    Ah I see.... You look a bit bare without it.

  • Amy09/12/2009 at 00:08

    if i was a dude i would be so hairy. Shaving every day is such an effort but i bet waxing your face would HURT

  • Jon Waldock09/12/2009 at 00:08

    if i was a dude i would be so hairy. Shaving every day is such an effort but i bet waxing your face would HURT

    = Bad images

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:08

    if i was a dude i would be so hairy. Shaving every day is such an effort but i bet waxing your face would HURT

    I had an ex who wanted to wax my head

    I never relented

  • Alison09/12/2009 at 00:08

    if i was a dude i would be so hairy. Shaving every day is such an effort but i bet waxing your face would HURT

    Hahaha hair removal sucks. I think we should all decide just not to bother anymore.

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:09

    Hahaha hair removal sucks. I think we should all decide just not to bother anymore.

    And look like Nick Heidfeld, no ta

  • Alison09/12/2009 at 00:09

    I had an ex who wanted to wax my head

    That's crazy.... Why?

  • Jon Waldock09/12/2009 at 00:10

    And look like Nick Heidfeld, no ta

    I'm not sure it's just the hair that defines how he looks, he has other features too....

  • Steven Roy09/12/2009 at 00:10

    if i was a dude i would be so hairy. Shaving every day is such an effort but i bet waxing your face would HURT

    Ouch. Fortunately I am not so hairy so I can get away with shaving a couple of times a week without looking scruffy. Wish the hair on my head grew so slowly though.

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:10

    That's crazy.... Why?

    I Mach 3 my head and she liked my head smoother for longer

  • Steven Roy09/12/2009 at 00:10

    I had an ex who wanted to wax my head

    I never relented

    You should have dumped her immediately

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:11

    You should have dumped her immediately

    I let her wax my back a couple of times. [Which was never particularly hairy] Big mistake also

  • Alison09/12/2009 at 00:12

    I let her wax my back a couple of times. [Which was never particularly hairy] Big mistake also

    More than once?

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:12

    We can't start Wednesday on the topic of head waxing!

  • Jon Waldock09/12/2009 at 00:12

    I let her wax my back a couple of times. [Which was never particularly hairy] Big mistake also

    Doesnt Wax = Pain?

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:12

    More than once?

    2 or 3, I think

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 00:12

    Doesnt Wax = Pain?

    It's relative but it's not what I'd call pleasant

  • Alison09/12/2009 at 00:13

    Doesnt Wax = Pain?

    It's not too bad to be honest. You get used to it.

  • Jon Waldock09/12/2009 at 00:14

    It's not too bad to be honest. You get used to it.

    Yeah but women do it lots usually...therefore you're opinion dosent count :P

  • Alison09/12/2009 at 02:22

    It loves me too much!!!

    It was broken, we sent it away for repair. The IT peoples said it was too badly broken and sent us a new one. This one was rrrrrrubbish and broke. We sent it off and were sent back the original useless printer we had originally......

    I now blame the IT department every time I can't go home on time because my end of night paperwork won't print sensibly!!

    Bassano I feel I should warn you about my views on my printer before you part with yours even though it doesn't matter. I just know I'll get to work and it'll be there again...

  • Bassano09/12/2009 at 02:24

    Bassano I feel I should warn you about my views on my printer before you part with yours even though it doesn't matter. I just know I'll get to work and it'll be there again...

    It even sends you back in time!