Race day in Turkey, and we're looking forward to it in Sidepodcast Towers, it's been a good weekend so far and hopefully the race will live up to expectations. Here are some of the things we're talking about:

  • What was up with Alonso so that he could only qualify eighth with a ridiculously light car? We all know that the Renault is slow, and Piquet couldn't keep the darn thing pointing in the right direction, but this is Alonso we're talking about. Give him a light car and he should know what to do with it.
  • Hamilton is already turning his attention to 2010, although perhaps only really hinting at it. His actual quotes suggest that he knows this year is a struggle and basically a write off, so he's looking forward to the McLaren comeback next year... if there is a next year, I suppose.
  • We have finally managed to blog about the potential Lotus meetup. We've only been promising to do so for a couple of weeks now, so it's about time we got round to it. All the details you need to know are here, and we hope you can make it.

That'll do it for now. Don't forget you can catch up with all of yesterdays action in F1 Digest, in case you missed it or if you want a quick refresher. There'll be plenty of live threads popping up throughout the day, so I'll see you in the comments.

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  • Scott Woodwiss06/06/2009 at 23:32

    Gavin - I've seen on the Wiki you're concerned with travel to Hethel. I know for a fact you can get a train from London Liverpool St to Norwich and the penultimate stop is Wymondham. If you want (because I should be driving by then), I could meet you at the station, pick you up and we both travel to the factory together. How does that sound?

  • Jeremy06/06/2009 at 23:37

    Dear All,

    Can somebody please bring me up to speed on the court case where Ferrari argued they had veto rights on technical regulation changes. I know, I'm waaaay behind the times, but with all the talk of Ferrari being contractually obligated to appear in an FIA sanctioned world championship in 2010, I'd like some details.

    Is it simply because the FIA presented the two tier system and Ferrari still have veto rights in the 'unlimited spending' category?

    What I'd like to hear is that the FIA broke the contract and Ferrari can tell them to go jump but I fear it isn't that simple.

    Thanks in advance,

    Jeremy

  • Steven Roy06/06/2009 at 23:47

    Can somebody please bring me up to speed on the court case where Ferrari argued they had veto rights on technical regulation changes. I know, I'm waaaay behind the times, but with all the talk of Ferrari being contractually obligated to appear in an FIA sanctioned world championship in 2010, I'd like some details.

    As I understand it Ferrari have a veto on any new technical regulation as part o their 2005 deal. They are protesting the introduction of a budget cap and a two tier championship as being in breach of their agreement. They sued the FIA but the French court as it always did found in favour of the FIA. Quite why the court then didn't take action against the existence of the veto agreement I don't know as it is illegal under European law.

    Ferrari now believe that the fact their veto has been overridden means the whole contract is null and void and they can walk but since the court found against them they would have a hard time trying to get away from the FIA.

  • Andy Taylor06/06/2009 at 23:48

    What I'd like to hear is that the FIA broke the contract and Ferrari can tell them to go jump but I fear it isn't that simple.

    I think the story is that Ferrari tried to get an injunction to prevent the FIA from imposing the 2 tier system, but the court sided with the FIA party because Ferrari had not used its veto when the changes were voted through.

    The court proceedings revealed the existence of the veto, that Ferrari get more money and that Ferrari are contracted to race until 2012.

  • Jeremy06/06/2009 at 23:56

    I think the story is that Ferrari tried to get an injunction to prevent the FIA from imposing the 2 tier system, but the court sided with the FIA party because Ferrari had not used its veto when the changes were voted through.

    So someone at Ferrari messed up by not acting when the new rules were first presented to them?

    Thanks for the replies.

  • Steven Roy06/06/2009 at 23:58

    So someone at Ferrari messed up by not acting when the new rules were first presented to them?

    Yes although the FIA broke its own rules as usual when it introduced them. According to Alianora there are two groups within the FIA that have to approve them before it goes to the WMSC? to get final approval and Max bypassed those stages.

  • Andy Taylor07/06/2009 at 00:02

    Yes although the FIA broke its own rules as usual when it introduced them. According to Alianora there are two groups within the FIA that have to approve them before it goes to the WMSC? to get final approval and Max bypassed those stages.

    Sadly I don't think this formed part of Ferrari's case for an injunction.

    http://bit.ly/dJtIY

    http://bit.ly/xl2pR

  • Jeremy07/06/2009 at 00:08

    Sadly I don't think this formed part of Ferrari's case for an injunction.

    Thanks Andy. To summarise, the second link provided tells us that Ferrari claimed they hadn't been consulted. The court said that they had been, and that joining FOTA was their other mistake.

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 00:23

    Evening/morning all. How are we today? I see Vettels on poll...but lighter....

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 01:08

    They are in the wrong thread for some reason.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 01:09

    The Texas IRL race is about to start for anyone staying up. I am going to bed just as soon as I've finished my little blog post.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 01:09

    The Texas IRL race is about to start for anyone staying up. I am going to bed just as soon as I've finished my little blog post.

    Oh, it isn't live on Sky though.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:10

    The Texas IRL race is about to start for anyone staying up. I am going to bed just as soon as I've finished my little blog post.

    Just saw your tweet and I am looking for a feed

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 01:12

    Just saw your tweet and I am looking for a feed

    I'll ask someone

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 01:26

    Blog post up, despite being short it still took a while. May need a rethink. Anyway, as much as I've love to stay up until 6am watching Texas I'm gonna crash out until the Parade Lap..

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:29

    Blog post up, despite being short it still took a while. May need a rethink. Anyway, as much as I've love to stay up until 6am watching Texas I'm gonna crash out until the Parade Lap..

    Good night Pat

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:33

    Okay, I see it. Does that preclude us from talking about US open wheel racing?

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:34

    However lame it might be

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:38

    Okay, I see it. Does that preclude us from talking about US open wheel racing?

    No. There are no limits as to what can be discussed. It just makes it easier for anyone trying to catch up later or if someone turns up they will apper in this thread.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:39

    For me this is good training for Le Mans next week.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:40

    No. There are no limits as to what can be discussed. It just makes it easier for anyone trying to catch up later or if someone turns up they will apper in this thread.

    Roger that. Are you watching the race though? Got my butt kicked at the blackjack tables today, so I'm licking my wounds and watching some racing. Licking my wounds equates to drinking beer, I suspect you knew that though

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:41

    Roger that. Are you watching the race though? Got my butt kicked at the blackjack tables today, so I'm licking my wounds and watching some racing. Licking my wounds equates to drinking beer, I suspect you knew that though

    Yes. I have a stream so I will watch until my eyes close

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:41

    For me this is good training for Le Mans next week.

    Looking forward to that myself

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:42

    Hoping Marco Andretti does what an Andretti does best, crash out and blame whoever is closest

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:43

    Hoping Marco Andretti does what an Andretti does best, crash out and blame whoever is closest

    From what they have said about this track in the build up there must be a good chance of that

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:46

    Aitch, will do, I like Murrey Walker

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:47

    That didn't take long. Yellow after 1 or 2 laps

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:47

    That didn't take long. Yellow after 1 or 2 laps

    I know and I'm a MIlka fan!

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:49

    Looked like a puncture or a suspension roblem

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:50

    problem

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:52

    problem

    hav'nt gotten a good look, getting a beer. As long as Sarah Fisher is still running....a big fan of hers

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:53

    hav'nt gotten a good look, getting a beer. As long as Sarah Fisher is still running....a big fan of hers

    She is OK Ithink. Rahal had a couple of twitches and Duno and Cio got together.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:54

    She is OK Ithink. Rahal had a couple of twitches and Duno and Cio got together.

    Yeah, I saw that. Everyone in IRL hates Milka, but I like her a little. Fisher did a good job, she's strong and smart

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 01:57

    I'm sure you watched last years Indy 500 when Sarah crashed into TK. She was in tears after the crash. I went to her website and they were accepting donations for the race in Kentucky. I sent her a $100 check. A few weeks later she sent me a hand written card thanking me and a coin-sized peice of the crashed racecar. I gained alot of respect for Sarah after that.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 01:58

    I'm sure you watched last years Indy 500 when Sarah crashed into TK. She was in tears after the crash. I went to her website and they were accepting donations for the race in Kentucky. I sent her a $100 check. A few weeks later she sent me a hand written card thanking me and a coin-sized peice of the crashed racecar. I gained alot of respect for Sarah after that.

    I have heard from a couple of other people who had exactly the same experience and now they are serious fans

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:00

    Come on Marco, screw up

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:03

    Your right, Steven, he Graham said something broke

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:05

    Your right, Steven, he Graham said something broke

    The back of the car stepped out two or three times in one lap. It looked totally unexpected to him each time. It wasn't like he was leaning on a tyre and pushed it over the edge.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:06

    The back of the car stepped out two or three times in one lap. It looked totally unexpected to him each time. It wasn't like he was leaning on a tyre and pushed it over the edge.

    Yup, I missed that on the broadcast.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:08

    By the way, my dislike of the Andretti's dates way back. But Mario stated a couple years ago that Marco is the quintesential F1 driver. I doubt that very seriously, he's not even a good Indycar driver.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:11

    By the way, my dislike of the Andretti's dates way back. But Mario stated a couple years ago that Marco is the quintesential F1 driver. I doubt that very seriously, he's not even a good Indycar driver.

    I remember Mario saying that and being excited by it until I started looking at Marco seriously. He is n F1 driver

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:12

    I remember Mario saying that and being excited by it until I started looking at Marco seriously. He is n F1 driver

    My hope for USF1 is Scott Speed and Jonathan Summerton

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:14

    My hope for USF1 is Scott Speed and Jonathan Summerton

    I have seen quite a few people suggest that pairing. I wonder if they would consider a foreign driver with a high profile like Jacques Villeneuve or Bourdais

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:16

    I have seen quite a few people suggest that pairing. I wonder if they would consider a foreign driver with a high profile like Jacques Villeneuve or Bourdais

    I really don't have a problem with that. I think limiting 'ourselves' to American drivers is somewhat arrogant. But I think Scott got screwed by STR, he was a much better driver that what showed. Put him in the second Renault and we'll see what happens

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:32

    Hey Dan

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:36

    ...or whatever you want to talk about

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:36

    Sarah's 4 laps down

  • Dans07/06/2009 at 02:37

    Who me?

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:38

    I have lost my video feed. It dropped out a couple of times but came back but I have had nothing in 5 minutes

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:38

    Who me?

    Yeah, you.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:39

    Hey Dans. My comment was to Dan Brunnell who was in another thread.

    How are you?

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:39

    Steven, they're in pits, nothing earth-shattering

  • Dans07/06/2009 at 02:39

    I really don't have a problem with that. I think limiting 'ourselves' to American drivers is somewhat arrogant. But I think Scott got screwed by STR, he was a much better driver that what showed. Put him in the second Renault and we'll see what happens

    He will just annoy the hell out of the team like he did before and Flav has even less patience than Berger.

  • Dans07/06/2009 at 02:40

    Good thanks, just finished listening to An aside with Joe after a few babyshams at a barbie.

    Love me a bit of Joe.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:41

    I know Clive Allen who is one of the most clued up bloggers on the net is a fan of Speed's and he analysed a load of data and is convinced he is much better than he showed.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:41

    He will just annoy the hell out of the team like he did before and Flav has even less patience than Berger.

    Apparently not, since Piquet is still gainfully employed

  • Dans07/06/2009 at 02:50

    Apparently not, since Piquet is still gainfully employed

    Thats a whole 'nother story.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:51

    Thats a whole 'nother story.

    True. But I think Scott got cheated in the end. I hope he's not chained to Red Bull or soured on F1

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:52

    I have no video feed and it is 4am so I am going to bed. Looks like I am going to get more sleep than I thought.

    Hopefully Dario will get the job done without me.

    See you tomorrow for the Parade Lap

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 02:53

    Hello everyone.

    How are you?

    Doing well. Just about ready to fix dinner. My heart says BBQ but my waistline is saying a salad.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:54

    Doing well. Just about ready to fix dinner. My heart says BBQ but my waistline is saying a salad.

    BBQ some lettuce with everything else and its a salad

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:54

    Steven, Briscoe looks like the Dude. Sleep well

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 02:56

    Steven, Briscoe looks like the Dude. Sleep well

    They said in the preview he was the favourite.

    Good night / morning. We need a non-specific phrase to cover sidepodtime

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 02:57

    BBQ some lettuce with everything else and its a salad

    Actually, lightly BBQ'ed fruit like bananas, oranges, and apples are pretty good. Really brings out the flavor.

    Good night steve.

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 02:57

    Wow, there is actually a decent amount of people at the race. For an IRL crowd, that is pretty good.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 02:58

    BBQ some lettuce with everything else and its a salad

    Fruit on a BBQ. Like puttting fruit in beer, of course that's just me

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:00

    Fruit on a BBQ. Like puttting fruit in beer, of course that's just me

    Yeah, that why I don't like Blue Moon, Corona, or Widmer Hef Beers. Beer that requires a fruit just isn't right.

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:01

    Fruit on a BBQ. Like puttting fruit in beer, of course that's just me

    I actually lightly cook some apples on the BBQer, especially if I am smoking any pork like ribs.

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:02

    Cheeky pit work by the andretti team.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:04

    Yeah, that why I don't like Blue Moon, Corona, or Widmer Hef Beers. Beer that requires a fruit just isn't right.

    I agree 100%

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:05

    I hate Corona. Not because my ex-live-in like, but because my ex-live-in like it. But I hate it anyway

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:06

    I hate Corona. Not because my ex-live-in like, but because my ex-live-in like it. But I hate it anyway

    I really didn't want to look illiterate.

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:07

    I hate Corona. Not because my ex-live-in like, but because my ex-live-in like it. But I hate it anyway

    I hate Corona. Not because my ex-live-in like, but because my ex-live-in like it. But I hate it anyway

    The only corona I like is the song by the minutemen. LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F6GPYd_xNA

    I really didn't want to look illiterate.

    No worries.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:08

    No worries.

    Thank you brother. Had a few pints of budweiser this evening

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:26

    Good stuff happening in Texas. About twenty laps to go and the top eight cars are within a second on each other fighting each other.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:29

    It wasn't really know as a chick flick.

    I found out the hard way, but it was still fun

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:31

    I wonder if Danica has a hard time walking with the way she carries the IRL. The amount of ads she is one is crazy. Whoever is her agent must be making a bucket load of duckets.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:35

    I wonder if Danica has a hard time walking with the way she carries the IRL. The amount of ads she is one is crazy. Whoever is her agent must be making a bucket load of duckets.

    true. And she stumbled ass-backward into her first win. I still not 100% convinced it was not contrived. Hopefully IRL can live without her...I can

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:37

    I saw the Jackass guys on Leno and they were playing hot potato with a taser, it was one of the funniest things I have seen.

    If you have'n seen the movie, do so and be prepared to laugh your arse offf.

  • Aitch07/06/2009 at 03:39

    If you have'n seen the movie, do so and be prepared to laugh your arse offf.

    I think I'll go and pick it up tomorrow

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:39

    true. And she stumbled ass-backward into her first win. I still not 100% convinced it was not contrived. Hopefully IRL can live without her...I can

    If Danica leaves, the IRL is screwed. She is the meal ticket. She is the only thing that the league has going for it. She is the best known driver in the series and like it or not is the face of the series.

    I am not a fan. To me she is the Dale Earnhardt jr of open wheel racing. A lot of smoke and no fire.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:40

    If you have a job interview soon, wipe if from your memory. If you are laughing your ass off, it does not bode well for a job

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:41

    Castroneves wins in Texas. Penske goes 1-2.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:41

    I am not a fan. To me she is the Dale Earnhardt jr of open wheel racing. A lot of smoke and no fire.

    You're right. Alot of people like her in a swimsuit, but she does little in a drivers suit.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:43

    I appreciated your take on Dale Jr. He's unskilled. The cars that he won in, anyone could have won in...in my belief

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:45

    I was in St. Pete when Helio climbed the fence in front of us, very cool thing

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:48

    I appreciated your take on Dale Jr. He's unskilled. The cars that he won in, anyone could have won in...in my belief

    I don't really follow NASCAR that close, but i just don't understand the appeal of Dale. If his dad was still around, I get the feeling that he wouldn't like the way his son acts. To much whining and not enough results for the cars he has been in.

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:50

    You're right. Alot of people like her in a swimsuit, but she does little in a drivers suit.

    I really don't see the appeal with her to be honest. She really isn't that good looking by my judgment. (Too mousy by my taste.)

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:50

    I don't really follow NASCAR that close, but i just don't understand the appeal of Dale. If his dad was still around, I get the feeling that he wouldn't like the way his son acts. To much whining and not enough results for the cars he has been in.

    you are right. Dale Jr. caught alot of flack from Dale that he was partying all the time. I read something recently that Dale Jr. has now started to get shape. In the middle of his career, he's decided to get shape.....wake up!

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 03:53

    It wouldn't be a IRL race if someone wasn't angry with Danica's driving.

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 03:54

    I really don't see the appeal with her to be honest. She really isn't that good looking by my judgment. (Too mousy by my taste.)

    She 's able to peice together a bunch of top fives, but that is it, nothing beter than fifith

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 04:00

    I wouldn't like it but the guys from F1 Rejects would love it.

    Good point. But I want a real racer in F1 from the US. I'll stick to my guns, Scott Speed and Jonathan Summerton

  • Joe in Fla07/06/2009 at 04:02

    Guys, I have to hit the rack if I'm gonna get up to watch the F1 race. Good night.

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 04:04

    Guys, I have to hit the rack if I'm gonna get up to watch the F1 race. Good night.

    Good night. See you for the parade lap.

  • Dan Brunell07/06/2009 at 04:53

    Soo... the calm before the storm eh?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 05:34

    I am awake, and it's still daylight. Success!

  • Alex Andronov07/06/2009 at 06:15

    Soo... the calm before the storm eh?

    Actually it's the storm before the storm here. There is a ginormous storm going on here in my part of the UK (south London).

    Thunder and Lightning,

    Very, Very Frightening,

    etc

  • Alex Andronov07/06/2009 at 08:00

    James Allen saying that it is Litespeed who are going to call themselves Lotus.

    And he says that we'll all have to start growing mutton-chop sideburns!

    http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/back-to-the-future-as-lotus-joins-f1-entry-list/

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 09:02

    Morning all.

  • Rocket (in Canberra)07/06/2009 at 09:04

    Morning all.

    Hi Christine. Can you make the race start now?

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 09:07

    Hi Christine. Can you make the race start now?

    Haha. If I had that kind of power, there are other things I would do first.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 09:19

    Morning all.

    Hi Christine

    Oh and good morning to you all too :) Here's hoping we get a good race today.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 09:30

    Oh goodness, now Autosport's picked up on it...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75903

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 09:31

    I just realised I cannot watch the Parade Lap due to this whole dial-up thing. But that won't stop me from trying!

  • Flibster07/06/2009 at 09:32

    James Allen saying that it is Litespeed who are going to call themselves Lotus.

    And he says that we'll all have to start growing mutton-chop sideburns!

    http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/back-to-the-future-as-lotus-joins-f1-entry-list/

    matches with what I'd heard. :D

    WOOHOO!

    Requirements for a real Lotus

    1) Very pretty

    2) Very advanced

    3) Very fragile

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 09:33

    I just realised I cannot watch the Parade Lap due to this whole dial-up thing. But that won't stop me from trying!

    That's the SPC spirit!

  • Jeremy07/06/2009 at 09:39

    I just realised I cannot watch the Parade Lap due to this whole dial-up thing. But that won't stop me from trying!

    Do you have any free minutes on your mobile phone? Like Optus' free for the first 20 minutes thing? Or cheap landline calls?

    I'm sure we can work something out to help you!

    Hello All! Dinner then Parade Lap - Yay!

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 09:40

    Do you have any free minutes on your mobile phone? Like Optus' free for the first 20 minutes thing? Or cheap landline calls?

    nope, but I'll cope. I shall probably just have lots of b-word.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 09:41

    Just on zedge.net trying to find an F1 ringtone, preferably the Ferrari V12 :D

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 09:43

    I just found a ringtone of the music they use for the 2009 F1 intro ident :D

  • Alex Andronov07/06/2009 at 09:44

    Anyone got any race predictions?

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 09:45

    Anyone got any race predictions?

    I think I'll go with: Webber, Rubens, Jenson. To be adventurous :D

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 09:46

    Anyone got any race predictions?

    Rubens for the win!

  • Jeremy07/06/2009 at 09:51

    Anyone got any race predictions?

    Go Lewis!

    Who's with me? :D

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 09:53

    Who's with me? :D

    probably his dad and THAT woman.

  • Jeremy07/06/2009 at 09:54

    probably his dad and THAT woman.

    I hear he has other family as well. If he's ever short of support, I'm available...

  • Jeremy07/06/2009 at 09:58

    nope, but I'll cope. I shall probably just have lots of b-word.

    What about free WiFi at Maccas?

    When does the OneHD footage start for you? 9pm Australia time? Is it the BBC stuff or the Aussie commentators?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 10:00

    What about free WiFi at Maccas?

    there is lots of free wifi around, i just can't be bothered leaving the house

    When does the OneHD footage start for you? 9pm Australia time? Is it the BBC stuff or the Aussie commentators?

    starts at 9pm, the pre-show is the annoying ONE guys with a few updates from Peter Windsor. 99% of it is rubbish but occasionally there is something good.

  • Aitch07/06/2009 at 10:02

    Anyone got any race predictions?

    Button,Vettel and Webber

  • lou07/06/2009 at 10:03

    Morning!

    Anyone got any race predictions?

    i'm sure it will be a surprise to you all what i say i'm predicting a Brawn 1-2, with Rubens winning :D , Vettel 3rd and just for fun i'll say Massa 4th.

  • toxicfusion07/06/2009 at 10:08

    Anyone got any race predictions?

    Webber

    Vettel

    Barrichello (he has to finish ahead of Button at some point)

    Button

  • Jeremy07/06/2009 at 10:12

    starts at 9pm, the pre-show is the annoying ONE guys with a few updates from Peter Windsor. 99% of it is rubbish but occasionally there is something good.

    I assume you record it anyway?

    Cameron McConville is annoying as a commentator but is a really nice guy. Rusty is shorter than he looks but is a very professional little dynamo. Bring back Neil Crompton

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 10:13

    Drop.io's stopped loading on my computer. Very frustrating because I have a new spreadsheet to help automatically calculate fuel stints and fuel-corrected Q3 laps.

  • Alex Andronov07/06/2009 at 10:38

    Chris you'll have to phone in if you want to ask!

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 13:45

    Right, Fed-watch for me and Amy. :)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 13:45

    Right, Fed-watch for me and Amy. :)

    :D

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 13:46

    :D

    What was I saying about Fed in 4? Looks like it'll be Fed in 3 at this rate.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 13:47

    What was I saying about Fed in 4? Looks like it'll be Fed in 3 at this rate.

    I wanted this to go long so I can use proper internet to see the end, but if it ending early means FEDDOMINATION I will accept that.

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 13:48

    What on earth?!

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 13:48

    What on earth?!

    Guy in red trying to be a footnote in history.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 13:49

    OH NOES I HAVE BEEN CAPPED AND INTERNET HAS STOPPED

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 13:49

    OH NOES I HAVE BEEN CAPPED AND INTERNET HAS STOPPED

    OH NO! :( What a bad time. Rush off to the pub?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 13:50

    OH NO! :( What a bad time. Rush off to the pub?

    I'll stick with text updates and hope that this game goes at least another hour.

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 13:51

    I'll stick with text updates and hope that this game goes at least another hour.

    Soderling staying on serve - it just might.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 13:51

    Soderling staying on serve - it just might.

    I'll cross my fingers

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 13:52

    did someone make it on court? seeing that would have FREAKED ME OUT. I remember Seles :(

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 13:53

    did someone make it on court? seeing that would have FREAKED ME OUT. I remember Seles :(

    Yep - am shocked security took so long.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 13:54

    Yep - am shocked security took so long.

    hope it hasn't put him off his game :(

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 13:54

    hope it hasn't put him off his game :(

    3-2 says it hasn't.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:00

    possible rain? rain would make the match go longer!

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:01

    possible rain? rain would make the match go longer!

    it's drizzling, but not enough to stop the match at the moment.

  • startledbunny07/06/2009 at 14:04

    ta ra everybody. was good race in your company. next time

  • me07/06/2009 at 14:05

    ta ra everybody. was good race in your company. next time

    cheers ;)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:06

    heh I found the court invasion on youtube. Now to see if I can load it :D

  • Flibster07/06/2009 at 14:08

    heh I found the court invasion on youtube. Now to see if I can load it :D

    eh?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:09

    eh?

    daily thread is tennis chat at the mo :Pe

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:11

    Soderling has indeed woken up - looks like we may be en route for a tiebreak.

  • lou07/06/2009 at 14:12

    Soderling has indeed woken up - looks like we may be en route for a tiebreak.

    what's the score? (am watching f1)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:12

    Soderling has indeed woken up - looks like we may be en route for a tiebreak.

    48 minutes til I can watch. Just watched the invasion on youtube, that actually did load, how scary for them!

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:12

    what's the score? (am watching f1)

    5-5 15-0, Federer to serve.

  • lou07/06/2009 at 14:13

    5-5 15-0, Federer to serve.

    blimey! that's close. thank you:)

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:13

    blimey! that's close. thank you:)

    do note that fed won set 1 with ease. np. :)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:14

    normally I hate tie breaks but Feds against Delpo yesterday was AWESOME

  • Flibster07/06/2009 at 14:15

    48 minutes til I can watch. Just watched the invasion on youtube, that actually did load, how scary for them!

    Link?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:16

    Link?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2-QCXVN2s

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:23

    tie breaks make me nervous :(

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:24

    tie breaks make me nervous :(

    Fed 5-1 up on the court switch.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:25

    Fed 5-1 up on the court switch.

    set 2 is pretty much his. Thankgod Rog, ONE TO GO. AND MAKE IT TAKE 35 MINUTES PLEASE.

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:26

    set 2 is pretty much his. Thankgod Rog, ONE TO GO. AND MAKE IT TAKE 35 MINUTES PLEASE.

    :)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:26

    eeeek even though I can't watch I am loving this SO MUCH

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:35

    BREAK

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:35

    4 games to go for Fed - can Soderling hold on another 25 minutes for Amy?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 14:36

    4 games to go for Fed - can Soderling hold on another 25 minutes for Amy?

    It's not like I'd understand the ceremony in French anway, but I just wanna see the smile on Rogers and Mirkas faces.

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:37

    It's not like I'd understand the ceremony in French anway, but I just wanna see the smile on Rogers and Mirkas faces.

    actions speak louder than words. 22+ minutes left - Soderling should be about to get on the board this set anytime now.

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 14:59

    1 game to go for Federer. Amy will make it - just. :D

  • Paul07/06/2009 at 15:00

    1 game to go for Federer. Amy will make it - just. :D

    are you watching a stream?

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:01

    are you watching a stream?

    Watching it live on the telly. A shame it's only SD.

  • Paul07/06/2009 at 15:02

    Watching it live on the telly. A shame it's only SD.

    Nothing here. I mean, why telecast French tennis?

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:02

    Nothing here. I mean, why telecast French tennis?

    It just so happens to be in France this time round?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:03

    MY INTERNET IS BACK JUST IN TIME EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HISTORY

  • Paul07/06/2009 at 15:03

    It just so happens to be in France this time round?

    Aussi TV is hopeless at the moment

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:04

    MY INTERNET IS BACK JUST IN TIME EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HISTORY

    :D

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:04

    I have tears streaming down my face right now! And I just made $50 :D

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:05

    well, not yet.... BUT I WILL

  • Alex Andronov07/06/2009 at 15:06

    well, not yet.... BUT I WILL

    It's all go isn't it!

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:06

    JUST BREATHE ROGER JUST BREATHE

  • Paul07/06/2009 at 15:07

    roger choking a bit

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 15:07

    JUST BREATHE ROGER JUST BREATHE

    JUST BREATHE AMY JUST BREATHE

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:08

    OMG MATCH POINT OMG

  • Alex Andronov07/06/2009 at 15:08

    All done now!

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:08

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

  • lou07/06/2009 at 15:08

    Is Amy alive?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:09

    CAREER SLAM BABY!

  • Paul07/06/2009 at 15:09

    Oh thank goodness. I can sleep now

  • Alex Andronov07/06/2009 at 15:09

    CAREER SLAM BABY!

    :)

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 15:09

    Is Amy alive?

    shes imploded

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:09

    CAREER SLAM BABY!

    :D

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:10

    oh man if he wins Wimbledon and takes the 15 I'll cry again.

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:11

    oh man if he wins Wimbledon and takes the 15 I'll cry again.

    With Nadal possibly slightly hurt, I say he'll take it.

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:11

    Hi all. Did i miss anything?

  • Paul07/06/2009 at 15:12

    With Nadal possibly slightly hurt, I say he'll take it.

    Seems that way

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 15:12

    Hi all. Did i miss anything?

    dont.ask

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:14

    Hi all. Did i miss anything?

    RG gets his name back

  • RG - Not the owner of TimoGlock Appreciation Society07/06/2009 at 15:15

    RG gets his name back

    Oooh yeah

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 15:16

    Oooh yeah

    Are you happy now Roland?

  • RG - Not the owner of TimoGlock Appreciation Society07/06/2009 at 15:17

    Are you happy now Roland?

    I refuse the answer that until you call me by my proper first name, R

  • Alex Andronov07/06/2009 at 15:18

    Poor Rodge... He looks a bit emotional!

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 15:18

    I refuse the answer that until you call me by my proper first name, R

    :D

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:19

    Poor Rodge... He looks a bit emotional!

    I have an ad break :(

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:20

    I have an ad break :(

    Robin Soderling smiling - says that Roger is the greatest of all-time.

    Good week's work for Rockin' Robin. We'll be seeing him for a while. :)

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:22

    Hi all. Did i miss anything?

    RG gets his name back

    so nothing that interesting ;) Given the trouble with feeds we had yesterday, I figured I'd stay home and watch italian tv, but unfortunately have no internet. wasn't too bad. well apart from the race, which i didn't find that great. some good bits but ...

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 15:23

    so nothing that interesting ;) Given the trouble with feeds we had yesterday, I figured I'd stay home and watch italian tv, but unfortunately have no internet. wasn't too bad. well apart from the race, which i didn't find that great. some good bits but ...

    yup, was a bit boring

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:24

    Where's Amy, BTW?

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 15:24

    Where's Amy, BTW?

    In pieces all over her flat....she exploded

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:25

    yup, was a bit boring

    glad you agree. i wasn't sure that i might have been missing some great tactical battle but once it became clear that Vettel's 3 stop wasn't going well, there wasn't a lot. I did enjoy Rubens barging his way through the pack.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:25

    Where's Amy, BTW?

    dying watching the cutest presentation ever (my feed is super delayed)

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:26

    dying watching the cutest presentation ever (my feed is super delayed)

    not as much as mine. I have a guy watching the game and etcha sketching it for me.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:27

    not as much as mine. I have a guy watching the game and etcha sketching it for me.

    heheh. I have an NBC feed who are thankfully translating Roger's beautiful French :)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:27

    oh and now hes speaking English, even better :D

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:28

    heheh. I have an NBC feed who are thankfully translating Roger's beautiful French :)

    No need - he repeats what he says in English right after speaking in French. :)

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:29

    heheh. I have an NBC feed who are thankfully translating Roger's beautiful French :)

    for the f1 i had the art of trying to pick out the english behind the italian or german (i was switching channels to who had interviews).

    i might even (shock horror) leave a voicemail or two. the highlight for me was after the race when italian tv asked Lewis if he thought the team had reached the point to switch development to 2010 and he replied "i think for sure".

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:30

    if anyone has a child and needs and an toy f1 car for them

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:32

    for the f1 i had the art of trying to pick out the english behind the italian or german (i was switching channels to who had interviews).

    I went to watch the end of the F1 that I had recorded and the recordings have failed because I think my flatmate has unplugged the aerial cable. It comes from her room, but now shes asleep and I can't wake her up. Fail.

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:34

    I think my flatmate has unplugged the aerial cable. It comes from her room, but now shes asleep and I can't wake her up. Fail.

    Why did she do that? And yeah there's not a lot of point waking her up to ask why something didn't work. just head over to the torrent world i guess to get them ;) public holiday for you tomorrow right? shouldn't you be in a bar somewhere?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:36

    Why did she do that? And yeah there's not a lot of point waking her up to ask why something didn't work. just head over to the torrent world i guess to get them ;) public holiday for you tomorrow right? shouldn't you be in a bar somewhere?

    she does it by accident because it runs under her door and sometimes gets unplugged when she shuts it. public holiday means I can stay up for debrief and bounce off the walls for quite a while longer :D too cold to go to bars :D

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:39

    Quote of the day: Federer to Agassi

    "I don't miss you because you're here right now"

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:40

    Quote of the day: Federer to Agassi

    "I don't miss you because you're here right now"

    :D

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:40

    she does it by accident because it runs under her door and sometimes gets unplugged when she shuts it. public holiday means I can stay up for debrief and bounce off the walls for quite a while longer :D too cold to go to bars :D

    makes sense. i've run that config in a house before. aah debrief? hmm. think i won't be around but enjoy yourselves :)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:43

    I think I should officially stop gambling, I am up $17.50 on where I started 2 weeks ago.

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:44

    I think I should officially stop gambling, I am up $17.50 on where I started 2 weeks ago.

    Yes you should. Stop while you're ahead.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:45

    Yes you should. Stop while you're ahead.

    thats the plan. $17.50 will buy me lunch :D

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:45

    I think I should officially stop gambling, I am up $17.50 on where I started 2 weeks ago.

    simple question you need to remember - if every bet lost, how much would you have lost?

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:46

    simple question you need to remember - if every bet lost, how much would you have lost?

    $70

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:49

    simple question you need to remember - if every bet lost, how much would you have lost?

    $70

    bet with your head, not over it ;)

    i had this idea today that i should start gambling on F1. Ferrari are pretty bad now and i figure there'd be enough italians that bet with their hearts to pump in extra money to the kitty. the same as the price on a webber win will probably be better outside australia.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 15:49

    I think I should officially stop gambling, I am up $17.50 on where I started 2 weeks ago.

    You are going to stop because you are making a profit

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:50

    You are going to stop because you are making a profit

    I don't have an addictive personality.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 15:50

    $70

    So you are making about 30%. Not many banks will give you 30% a fortnight on your money.

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:51

    So you are making about 30%. Not many banks will give you 30% a fortnight on your money.

    but a few banks would have taken the whole $70 ;)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 15:51

    So you are making about 30%. Not many banks will give you 30% a fortnight on your money.

    I'm too risk-averse to bet more than $10 on each thing. If I was willing to bet more, I'd make more :D

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 15:56

    If anyone missed the invasion of a spectator onto the final at RG todayclick here

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 15:57

    This dude is mental!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVECa_y_7LY

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 15:57

    BTW, was anyone able to check who sang Superstar earlier? I think it's Lupe Fiasco...

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 16:01

    BTW, was anyone able to check who sang Superstar earlier? I think it's Lupe Fiasco...

    I believe it's this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOCSyGPO4I

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 16:01

    I believe it's this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOCSyGPO4I

    Yup, that's what I had. Thanks, Scott. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 16:02

    BTW, was anyone able to check who sang Superstar earlier? I think it's Lupe Fiasco...

    I believe it's this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOCSyGPO4I

    All we hear is radio Scotty!

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 16:02

    All we hear is radio Scotty!

    I just have a knack for lyrics sometimes ;)

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 16:03

    Watching GP2 Race 1 - it was SUPER hectic. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 16:05

    Watching GP2 Race 1 - it was SUPER hectic. :D

    Thanks for the tip ;)

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 16:06

    Thanks for the tip ;)

    Do watch it - action-packed race it was. :)

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 16:07

    Do watch it - action-packed race it was. :)

    Ooooh, and now Race 2. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 16:19

    Does anyone know where I could find a list of apex speeds for turn 8?

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 16:21

    Does anyone know where I could find a list of apex speeds for turn 8?

    probably here

    http://fialive.fiacommunications.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/timing.aspx

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 16:22

    Does anyone know where I could find a list of apex speeds for turn 8?

    Now there's an interesting requirement... ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 16:24

    Note to self - Koenigsegg CCX + streets of Porto = bloomin' difficult.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 16:25

    Does anyone know where I could find a list of apex speeds for turn 8?

    Now there's an interesting requirement... ;)

    It is ;)

    I have seen this data collected and shown on screen in previous years and wondered if it is available this year?

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 16:26

    I have seen this data collected and shown on screen in previous years and wondered if it is available this year?

    Gavin did you see my link? I would think it's in on of those pdfs.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 16:27

    Gavin did you see my link? I would think it's in on of those pdfs.

    Just checking now cheers Scott...

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 16:29

    Just checking now cheers Scott...

    I had a quick look. couldn't see anything that specifically mentions turn 8 - there was a speed trap mentioned, but doubt that is turn 8.

    there is loads of timing data. every lap, every driver. pity it's in pdf or i'd play with it...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 16:31

    Just checking now cheers Scott...

    I had a quick look. couldn't see anything that specifically mentions turn 8 - there was a speed trap mentioned, but doubt that is turn 8.

    there is loads of timing data. every lap, every driver. pity it's in pdf or i'd play with it...

    It's not there :(

    Yeah the PDF thing sucks but it's easy enough to copy and paste...

  • Scott in Italy07/06/2009 at 16:34

    It's not there :(

    yeah pity. they've given almost everything else.

    Yeah the PDF thing sucks but it's easy enough to copy and paste...

    way to technical for me ;)

    heading offline. see you all later.

  • RG - Not the owner of TimoGlock Appreciation Society07/06/2009 at 16:35

    heading offline. see you all later.

    Likewise, its my teams presentation and I'm most likely to miss the debrief, though if I am lucky, I might catch the end of it. Bye and have fun

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 16:39

    You know this scheme where you can scrap a car that's 10 years old or more? Couldn't someone exploit that by buying older cars for say £1000, trading them in at the dealers, getting £2000 for them and then using that to buy another car and so on and so forth. You could make a killing out of it.

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 16:40

    Note to self - Koenigsegg CCX + streets of Porto = bloomin' difficult.

    Power on oversteer and grim understeer ?

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 16:40

    Power on oversteer and grim understeer ?

    Both!

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 16:41

    Both!

    haha, it never changes whatever game you're in, heavy cars with too much power are horid to drive

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 16:42

    Note to self - Koenigsegg CCX + streets of Porto = bloomin' difficult.

    They're buying Saab apparently...

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 16:43

    They're buying Saab apparently...

    Can you imagine a Koenigsegg saloon?

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 16:46

    I didn't know di Grassi is no longer connected with Renault after opting to tryout for Honda. It's now Grosjean and David Valsecchi wearing Renault colors in GP2.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 16:58

    You know this scheme where you can scrap a car that's 10 years old or more? Couldn't someone exploit that by buying older cars for say £1000, trading them in at the dealers, getting £2000 for them and then using that to buy another car and so on and so forth. You could make a killing out of it.

    No because you have to own the car for a year before you can do it. Beside most dealer will give you more than that off without a trade in.

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 17:15

    Does anyone else in the world have cheekbones as chiselled as Mark Webber's? I do not have trouble visualising what his skull looks like.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 17:26

    Hey guys,

    I have my Fantasy Racers Stats published here.

    Hope ya like 'em ;)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 17:30

    Does anyone else in the world have cheekbones as chiselled as Mark Webber's? I do not have trouble visualising what his skull looks like.

    Do you often imagine people without flesh?

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 17:31

    Do you often imagine people without flesh?

    You mean ghosts? Or skeletons? :P

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 17:31

    Do you often imagine people without flesh?

    I don't make a habit of it, but I can't help it when I see him.

    Speaking of Mark, he's trying to upset Bernie:

    "I said there was no atmosphere in Turkey. I think that there were a lot of people that tried to come in today but obviously it’s not that cheap and things like that but we should have let them in for free at the end. It would have been nice for the show to let people in. I’m sure there’s a lot of people that would want to come to the Turkish Grand Prix but can’t afford to because it’s very expensive."

    I'm sure Bernie would rather die than let someone in for free

  • me07/06/2009 at 17:35

    I have my Fantasy Racers Stats published here.

    WOW. that post makes fantasy racers about 100 times more interesting to me.

    now i can see it!

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 17:36

    I have my Fantasy Racers Stats published here.

    I heart your blog. Graphs make everything soooo easy to understand :D

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 17:37

    I'm sure Bernie would rather die than let someone in for free

    There are some times you can't help but like Webber

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 17:37

    There are some times you can't help but like Webber

    and his skull.

  • me07/06/2009 at 17:38

    I heart your blog. Graphs make everything soooo easy to understand :D

    the man's set a precedent now. we need this before 7pm every sunday ;)

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 17:38

    now i can see it!

    Have never seen Mr C so excited about some graphs. I think you've done well, Gavin :)

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 17:40

    the man's set a precedent now. we need this before 7pm every sunday ;)

    the qualy graphs were excellent too, I may get excited when the weights come out, but the graphs actually made me understand them

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 17:42

    Have never seen Mr C so excited about some graphs. I think you've done well, Gavin :)

    Very well, indeed. With stuff like this, it's no wonder we're crushing the opposition in the leagues table...

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 17:47

    hey everyone

  • me07/06/2009 at 17:47

    hey everyone

    evening.

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 17:47

    When does the debrief thread go live

  • me07/06/2009 at 17:48

    When does the debrief thread go live

    thread being written now. so, erm 7:15?

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 17:49

    What a race today, can't wait 4 the show and Fridays FIA teams list

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 17:50

    the caption on this photo makes me howl with laughter

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 17:50

    have u heard the last race of this season will be shown in HD

  • me07/06/2009 at 17:51

    have u heard the last race of this season will be shown in HD

    has it been confirmed? all seems to be unsubstantiated forum rumours?

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 17:53

    has it been confirmed? all seems to be unsubstantiated forum rumours?

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 17:53
  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 17:53

    hahaha, bbc news says the best bit about Lewham's weekend is overtaking Piquet....

    you're life must be bad when thats your highlight

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 17:53

    hahaha, bbc news says the best bit about Lewham's weekend is overtaking Piquet....

    you're life must be bad when thats your highlight

    LOL

  • Journeyer07/06/2009 at 17:55

    hahaha, bbc news says the best bit about Lewham's weekend is overtaking Piquet....

    they forgot to mention the part where he gets repassed. :P

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 17:56

    “I said there was no atmosphere in Turkey. I think that there were a lot of people that tried to come in today but obviously it’s not that cheap and things like that but we should have let them in for free at the end. It would have been nice for the show to let people in. I’m sure there’s a lot of people that would want to come to the Turkish Grand Prix but can’t afford to because it’s very expensive.”

    I am not a huge fan of Mark, but at the same time I do sometimes enjoy his comments. Last year when there was a prize to become a fan of Alonso, we all considered which driver one would want to be fan of and accompany to every race. At the time I thought Red Bull and to be the Mark Webber fan. Of course now that I have found out what a fun guy Timo is, he would be my first choice.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 17:58

    I heart your blog. Graphs make everything soooo easy to understand :D

    Thank you SO much for the lovely comments people - I feel really happy now :D

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 18:02

    hahaha, bbc news says the best bit about Lewham’s weekend is overtaking Piquet….

    you’re life must be bad when thats your highlight

    I just do not get it... I think it is to Lewis' credit he finished the race ahead of his team mate considering his qually went so bad.

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 18:13

    Thank you SO much for the lovely comments people - I feel really happy now :D

    Good - they are interesting to us fans.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 19:47

    Well that was enjoyable. :)

  • lou07/06/2009 at 19:47

    over here everyone! :)

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 19:48

    Time to do some career on Race Pro methinks. Shall keep updated for anyone who's interested. :P

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 19:48

    The was my first live show watching, it was really fun watching.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 19:48

    over here everyone! :)

    *waves arms frantically to signal attention*

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 19:49

    Naomi (whoever) really is drunk isnt she

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 19:49

    The was my first live show watching, it was really fun watching.

    You soon find out what a great editor is when you see the difference between the live and the podcast

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 19:49

    Christine - Question now long does it take you to edit the live show into the podcast

  • Amy07/06/2009 at 19:49

    bedtime for me!

    night (er, early morning) all:)

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 19:49

    *how not now

    sorry typo

  • lou07/06/2009 at 19:49

    bedtime for me!

    night (er, early morning) all:)

    night amy!!

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 19:50

    Christine - Question now long does it take you to edit the live show into the podcast

    A couple of hours.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 19:50

    bedtime for me!

    night (er, early morning) all:)

    morning amy ;)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 19:50

    Night Amy

  • toxicfusion07/06/2009 at 19:51

    so did anyone register formula11.com? :D

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 19:51

    so did anyone register formula11.com? :D

    No-one said they did

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 19:51

    A couple of hours.

    Well I will be online for must of tomorrow and when the feed comes online will you alert everyone in the daily thread and it will make me laugh so hard!

  • Chris_Humphreys07/06/2009 at 19:52

    for berries sake I can't type - I meant most not must

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 19:53

    Oh, that reminds me. I did register either QIF1.com or QIF1.co.uk. If anyone wants it or can think of a great way to use it (bearing in mind I run BF1), feel free to suggest or email me.

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 19:53

    Well I will be online for must of tomorrow and when the feed comes online will you alert everyone in the daily thread and it will make me laugh so hard!

    The show should be up tomorrow night, and it will have an accompanying blog post with the show notes in.

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 19:53

    I love how Martin runs around the grid and DC can't keep up. It's like when you look round schools with your parents, you're used to dodging people in the corridors but your parents can't do that, they're nice and polite. hehehehe

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 19:54

    I love how Martin runs around the grid and DC can't keep up. It's like when you look round schools with your parents, you're used to dodging people in the corridors but your parents can't do that, they're nice and polite. hehehehe

    I'm always impressed with the cameraman/woman. They have a cumbersome camera to move around as well, but always manages to keep up with Martin.

  • toxicfusion07/06/2009 at 19:55

    Oh, that reminds me. I did register either QIF1.com or QIF1.co.uk. If anyone wants it or can think of a great way to use it (bearing in mind I run BF1), feel free to suggest or email me.

    Why did you register them?

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 19:55

    From fake Lewis

    Formula 1 needs longer tracks. Trust me. Getting lapped is... errr... dangerous

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 19:56

    Why did you register them?

    Sounded like a great URL (it is a great URL, in fact), and I did have Steven Roy in the back of mind at the time. Steven clearly has no interest in blogging/site running though.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 19:58

    Why did you register them?

    Also, I'm a guy who has too many ideas that rarely come to fruition. It's incredible BF1 even made it to the 'net. :)

  • Jay (toxicfusion)07/06/2009 at 19:59

    Sounded like a great URL (it is a great URL, in fact), and I did have Steven Roy in the back of mind at the time. Steven clearly has no interest in blogging/site running though.

    Ah cool, thought I had missed something :D

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:03

    Sounded like a great URL (it is a great URL, in fact), and I did have Steven Roy in the back of mind at the time. Steven clearly has no interest in blogging/site running though.

    it is a great url.

    i site i think the f1 community needs, but one i have no time to work on, is somewhere where new bloggers can plug a new project and can quickly gain eyeballs / constructive criticism, but also where new content is always updating from older blogs.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:05

    Sounded like a great URL (it is a great URL, in fact), and I did have Steven Roy in the back of mind at the time. Steven clearly has no interest in blogging/site running though.

    I don't write enough original stuff to justify a site. I did one run of guest posts here and came up with 4 subjects for the next set. I haven't looked at them in weeks if not months

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:06

    I don't write enough original stuff to justify a site. I did one run of guest posts here and came up with 4 subjects for the next set. I haven't looked at them in weeks if not months

    do you need a poke?

  • Jay (toxicfusion)07/06/2009 at 20:06

    i site i think the f1 community needs, but one i have no time to work on, is somewhere where new bloggers can plug a new project and can quickly gain eyeballs / constructive criticism, but also where new content is always updating from older blogs.

    *covers eyes*

    Don't go giving me ideas :P

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/vettel-jpg

    It must be great to see an F1 car going through the streets that close.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:06

    i site i think the f1 community needs, but one i have no time to work on, is somewhere where new bloggers can plug a new project and can quickly gain eyeballs / constructive criticism, but also where new content is always updating from older blogs.

    This has been copied and pasted into a note on my desktop. Great idea. Thank you. Do you think there are enough new projects in the F1 community though to keep the site regularly updated?

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:07

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/vettel-jpg

    It must be great to see an F1 car going through the streets that close.

    didn't kubica do that? are red bull running out of ideas?

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:07

    i site i think the f1 community needs, but one i have no time to work on, is somewhere where new bloggers can plug a new project and can quickly gain eyeballs / constructive criticism, but also where new content is always updating from older blogs.

    I saw someone somewhere plug a site like that recently for general subject. So that people can post the occasional item and because lots of people are doing it there is constant content.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:07

    *poking Steven*

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:07

    do you need a poke?

    No I need to sort out the real world forst.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:08

    didn't kubica do that? are red bull running out of ideas?

    You're right, Kubica did do it, last year I think.

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:08

    This has been copied and pasted into a note on my desktop. Great idea. Thank you. Do you think there are enough new projects in the F1 community though to keep the site regularly updated?

    yeah. my guess is people will blog more if they have an audience.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 20:08

    You're right, Kubica did do it, last year I think.

    Maybe he should have drunk Red Bull and flew there.

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:09

    You're right, Kubica did do it, last year I think.

    i saw it in f1racing i believe, going to collect an award of some kind.

  • Jay (toxicfusion)07/06/2009 at 20:09

    didn't kubica do that? are red bull running out of ideas?

    That was when Vettel collected the Bandini Trophy. :)

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:09

    Maybe he should have drunk Red Bull and flew there.

    now that would have been impressive :P

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:10

    yeah. my guess is people will blog more if they have an audience.

    This is true. I remember the early days of BF1 and thinking "what's the point, no one's reading". Determination got me through, but all so often you see great sites fall by the way side because the owners felt nobody read them.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:13

    That was when Vettel collected the Bandini Trophy. :)

    Kubica did it last year. http://www.f1technical.net/news/9151

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:13

    This is true. I remember the early days of BF1 and thinking "what's the point, no one's reading". Determination got me through, but all so often you see great sites fall by the way side because the owners felt nobody read them.

    I make a point of makingcomments on Alianora's blog every so often even if I have nothing to say because what she is doing is unique and she gets so few comments

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:13

    Kubica did it last year. http://www.f1technical.net/news/9151

    I have a short memory :P

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:15

    I make a point of makingcomments on Alianora's blog every so often even if I have nothing to say because what she is doing is unique and she gets so few comments

    that's a fair point. we try and plug anyone who contributes here too because if they're making the effort, so should we.

    we should try and plug mustcommentmonday some more.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 20:17

    that's a fair point. we try and plug anyone who contributes here too because if they're making the effort, so should we.

    I might write a new blog post, haven't done so in ages. And that was just for some photos.

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:17

    we should try and plug mustcommentmonday some more.

    daily posts, also are great for plugging posts, because we can be as random as we like.

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:18

    I might write a new blog post, haven't done so in ages. And that was just for some photos.

    please do ping us. i am subscribed, but i find more and more that rss is less useful than a combination of doohickey and tweetdeck.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:19

    I make a point of makingcomments on Alianora's blog every so often even if I have nothing to say because what she is doing is unique and she gets so few comments

    I try to as well, but part of Alia's problem is why I don't comment often enough. But it isn't Alia's fault (and therefore not her problem). Alia isn't on one of the major blogging platforms, and the feed for La Canta Magnifica doesn't work for me. Alia's writing is awesome and unique and I love the lady for it. I just wish there was a feed that worked like all others and a commenting system that also worked like most others. I honestly think if Alia took LCM to it's own domain and to a general web-liked CMS, she would become one of the F1 communities biggest and most read bloggers.

    I do not mean to take anything away from Alia though, as her writing really is that great I could never ever do that. But from a net-view, I really do think that the alliance Alia has with the forum she helps run is holding her back.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 20:19

    please do ping us. i am subscribed, but i find more and more that rss is less useful than a combination of doohickey and tweetdeck.

    I do plug some on twitter, should do more on the daily.

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 20:19

    I might write a new blog post, haven't done so in ages. And that was just for some photos.

    I still have an f1 related blog entry in the draft stages still waiting to be finished that could be an interesting discussion point, still deciding over a few things with it, but hopefully i'll get it done in next few days :)

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 20:19

    I might write a new blog post, haven't done so in ages. And that was just for some photos.

    Mmm, same here. I really should get to updating the Super Season Grid. Just been busy concentrating on my new job and other things.

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:19

    I honestly think if Alia took LCM to it's own domain and to a general web-liked CMS, she would become one of the F1 communities biggest and most read bloggers.

    i would second that.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:19

    Forgot to add a link: http://formula1home.com/forum/weblog.php?w=5

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:20

    All this talk of blogs, I'm happy that I don't have very much to say :D

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:21

    I still have an f1 related blog entry in the draft stages still waiting to be finished that could be an interesting discussion point, still deciding over a few things with it, but hopefully i'll get it done in next few days :)

    need a poke?

    (i need a new phrase for that).

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:21

    All this talk of blogs, I'm happy that I don't have very much to say :D

    What do you think of the general F1-orientated blogs? Are they worth reading, or do you still aim for Autosport/similar for the news/opinion/whatever takes your fancy?

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:22

    Mmm, same here. I really should get to updating the Super Season Grid. Just been busy concentrating on my new job and other things.

    need a poke some encouragement?

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 20:22

    need a poke?

    im still writing it in all fairness :P

    although so far it's had about 3 versions...

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:23

    I do not mean to take anything away from Alia though, as her writing really is that great I could never ever do that. But from a net-view, I really do think that the alliance Alia has with the forum she helps run is holding her back.

    You could be right on that. The problem I have commenting at times is that I tend to agree with her and she covers subjects in such detail there are no holes to fill. Most comments I make are either disagreeing with people or looking at some aspect they have missed.

    In the few things I have ever written I occasionally think of something I should add to give more detail then decide to leave a hole to give people room to comment.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:24

    In the few things I have ever written I occasionally think of something I should add to give more detail then decide to leave a hole to give people room to comment.

    This is exactly what I do. I always delete paragraphs from race reports, or lines from newsy-type stories just to encourage comments from people who want to share the obvious, but in their own way.

    See, you're already great at blogging. :)

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:27

    just noticed fakesebbuemismum tuned into tonight's show.

    i feel bad for saying he's no vettel :(

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:28

    im still writing it in all fairness :P

    is this the same idea as the sections you sent me the other day? (really good idea for a post so i hope it is)

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 20:28

    Has any one seen this article FOTA teams have agreed to drop KERS ro next year.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75945

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:28

    This is exactly what I do. I always delete paragraphs from race reports, or lines from newsy-type stories just to encourage comments from people who want to share the obvious, but in their own way.

    interesting. sometime's christine gets mad when we make mistakes in blog posts, or podcasts. but that's what encourages and motivates people to respond.

    being wrong can be quite constructive to forwarding the conversation.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:30

    What do you think of the general F1-orientated blogs? Are they worth reading, or do you still aim for Autosport/similar for the news/opinion/whatever takes your fancy?

    I used to just visit itv-f1.com and read the forums there and the flame wars that go on between the the Hamilton and non-Hamilton fans, the FIA(T) conspirators. Then I got linked here :D (and never looked back)

    I don't actively go looking for blogs largely because I don't have time but any that I come across (or get linked to) I do read and enjoy the insight and opinions of other fans. I just don't comment, it isn't something that only happens on blogs, I'm the same on forums. I'm more of a lurker.

    But I do agree with the idea by Mr C about the blog plugging.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:30

    i feel bad for saying he's no vettel :(

    Bad enough that you are in trouble with Christine. BTW did you get away with sticking up two fingers at Christine at the end of the show?

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:30

    being wrong can be quite constructive to forwarding the conversation.

    (but being deliberately wrong is BAD!)

    (just in case GMM are reading)

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 20:30

    Has any one seen this article FOTA teams have agreed to drop KERS ro next year.

    BMW say they voted for it, and they're not even running it!

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:30

    Bad enough that you are in trouble with Christine. BTW did you get away with sticking up two fingers at Christine at the end of the show?

    shhhhh! she missed that one.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:31

    Has any one seen this article FOTA teams have agreed to drop KERS ro next year.

    No. That is good news. Basically that means BMW have admitted defeat because all the others wanted it banned before and they vetoed it.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 20:31

    shhhhh! she missed that one.

    S'alright, blame Steven.

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 20:31

    This is exactly what I do. I always delete paragraphs from race reports, or lines from newsy-type stories just to encourage comments from people who want to share the obvious, but in their own way.

    This seems a bit odd to me, deliberately withholding information. I'd rather get everything out that's in my head and then ask some questions to further the conversation.

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 20:33

    No. That is good news. Basically that means BMW have admitted defeat because all the others wanted it banned before and they vetoed it.

    They still wanted it, but it was a majority decision.

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:33

    I just don't comment, it isn't something that only happens on blogs, I'm the same on forums. I'm more of a lurker.

    it's hard to know how much an email means until you have a blog of your own. but feedback (via any medium) = the world to us.

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 20:34

    BMW say they voted for it, and they're not even running it!

    I was confused. As far as I can see the only team to have a good one is Macca - but they are still struggling.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:35

    This seems a bit odd to me, deliberately withholding information. I'd rather get everything out that's in my head and then ask some questions to further the conversation.

    I do that because otherwise I would end up writing 20,000 words on everything. You have to edit to some degree. If you are writing a book you need to cover everything but if you are starting a conversation then you have to leave room for others to get in. Especially of they are not overconfident on the detail of the subject.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:35

    This seems a bit odd to me, deliberately withholding information. I'd rather get everything out that's in my head and then ask some questions to further the conversation.

    It's not major info, don't get me wrong. Hmm, let me think of an example...

    ...I can't think of one so I'll make up a typical Ollie-example.

    I'll be writing up a race report and during the race, Glock shot by Trulli. the reason wasn't a race pass, it was clearly orchestrated by the team because both drivers are on differing strategies. I might negkect this info, or lean towards it but not give a reason.

    This didn't actually happen, for the record, I believe I posted this 'incident'.

    But I don't see it as with-holding info, because I'm not the info owner. I just didn't mention it. And someone comments it, and I'm like "ooh, good point. Thanks for sharing. Blah blah blah."

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:35

    it's hard to know how much an email means until you have a blog of your own. but feedback (via any medium) = the world to us.

    Well I love sidepodcast, just wish I had found it sooner. ;)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:36

    They still wanted it, but it was a majority decision.

    Even odder. The last time it was discussed they were the only objector. Even McLaren who seem to have it sussed wanted to ban it.

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:36

    Well I love sidepodcast, just wish I had found it sooner. ;)

    ;)

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:37

    But I don't see it as with-holding info, because I'm not the info owner. I just didn't mention it. And someone comments it, and I'm like "ooh, good point. Thanks for sharing. Blah blah blah."

    The point is, the info usually gets shared, and if no one else does it, I'll eventually do it. But often it gives shy commenters something to say because it is so obvious, they don't get scared about being wrong. Psychology and all that. :)

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 20:38

    I do that because otherwise I would end up writing 20,000 words on everything. You have to edit to some degree.

    Of course, and I totally understand the editing process. I just can't quite wrap my head around omitting something in the hopes it will start a conversation. Perhaps I am misunderstanding this slightly.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:38

    By the way, Thanks to Jay (toxicfusion) for responding. :)

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 20:38

    I have a question concerning blogs actually, if you know mine so far I tend to write a lot... possibly too much... but does a lot of writing come at a cost when you're really into something and feel like there's a lot you could talk about?

    I only say this because like I say, I tend to write a lot about things i'm passionate about, but this does lead to em worrying that it's simply too much to keep people interested...

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:38

    Well I love sidepodcast, just wish I had found it sooner. ;)

    ;)

    If I had my sidepodaddiction would be higher than it is right now :P

    I'm currently around stage 4.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 20:38

    i site i think the f1 community needs, but one i have no time to work on, is somewhere where new bloggers can plug a new project and can quickly gain eyeballs / constructive criticism, but also where new content is always updating from older blogs.

    Like friendfeed for Blogs?

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:39

    The point is, the info usually gets shared, and if no one else does it, I'll eventually do it. But often it gives shy commenters something to say because it is so obvious, they don't get scared about being wrong. Psychology and all that. :)

    that does make some sense to me.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:39

    Also, for the record, I always unintentionally miss something. Every single race. I simply cannot post every everything.

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 20:39

    What do you think of the general F1-orientated blogs? Are they worth reading, or do you still aim for Autosport/similar for the news/opinion/whatever takes your fancy?

    I have really enjoyed Joe's and James' blogs I think they give a very different perspective and some real analysis and opinion.

    I read PlanetF1 for a laugh - when they try to write their own stuff it is so ridiculous it is actually funny - see link below as an example...

    http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3265_5368382,00.html

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 20:39

    I only say this because like I say, I tend to write a lot about things i'm passionate about, but this does lead to em worrying that it's simply too much to keep people interested...

    A good thing to do is split it up into a series, focus in on one specific bit of a topic each time.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 20:40

    This is true. I remember the early days of BF1 and thinking "what's the point, no one's reading". Determination got me through, but all so often you see great sites fall by the way side because the owners felt nobody read them.

    That's why I stopped Blog No.1 and why I'm already enjoying Blog No's 2 & 3!

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:40

    I have really enjoyed Joe's and James' blogs I think they give a very different perspective and some real analysis and opinion.

    I totally agree. I'm love James's. I love Joe's as well. Brilliance.

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:40

    If I had my sidepodaddiction would be higher than it is right now :P

    fancy joining in a future panel show?

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:41

    Like friendfeed for Blogs?

    maybe. not sure i have FF sussed yet. just something that says "this is new, check it out".

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:41

    Also, for the record, I always unintentionally miss something. Every single race. I simply cannot post every everything.

    I know the feeling I used to write reviews for a TV show and I'd make notes whilst it was on. Every 10 seconds I'd write something and miss something, eventually I put less and less in until I missed one week and thought "that was more fun" :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 20:42

    I have a question concerning blogs actually, if you know mine so far I tend to write a lot... possibly too much... but does a lot of writing come at a cost when you're really into something and feel like there's a lot you could talk about?

    I only say this because like I say, I tend to write a lot about things i'm passionate about, but this does lead to em worrying that it's simply too much to keep people interested...

    Your posts are long but I enjoy them so that's fine by me - I just know your blog is in the 'cuppa tea and a biccie' category... :)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:42

    Of course, and I totally understand the editing process. I just can't quite wrap my head around omitting something in the hopes it will start a conversation. Perhaps I am misunderstanding this slightly.

    Let me give an example. When I originally wrote my piece on Gilles Villeneuve fo F1 Pitlane it was supposed to be 500-1000 words on the anniversary of his death. It ended up being 4000-5000 words and I had hacked lumps out of it and started subjects then dropped them before I had written more than a couple of sentences. Had I written the full thing it would have been over 20k words and no-one would have read it.

    It has now been posted there and here and got quite a few comments each time which has resulted in me adding bits in pieces in the comments. I

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:42

    Like friendfeed for Blogs?

    maybe. not sure i have FF sussed yet. just something that says "this is new, check it out".

    Ah, that place with a terrible homepage. I get the idea though. *Ollie puts on his thinking cap, then goes to refill his glass with lovely Chianti*

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:42

    fancy joining in a future panel show?

    I might but knowing me I'd get all nervous and not say alot.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 20:43

    I might but knowing me I'd get all nervous and not say alot.

    I did that. It works ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 20:43

    maybe. not sure i have FF sussed yet. just something that says "this is new, check it out".

    I could have something like that in my blog if no-one else can be bothered...

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 20:43

    I totally agree. I'm love James's. I love Joe's as well. Brilliance.

    I like Joe's sense of humour especially. Given I hated James' as a commentator I am surprised I like his writing!

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:43

    I might but knowing me I'd get all nervous and not say alot.

    rg made his name doing just that ;)

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:44

    I know the feeling I used to write reviews for a TV show and I'd make notes whilst it was on. Every 10 seconds I'd write something and miss something, eventually I put less and less in until I missed one week and thought "that was more fun" :D

    Sshh, I missed blogging Monaco and spent the weekend surfing. You're not supposed to remind of that awesome weekend. :D

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 20:44

    Let me give an example. When I originally wrote my piece on Gilles Villeneuve fo F1 Pitlane it was supposed to be 500-1000 words on the anniversary of his death. It ended up being 4000-5000 words and I had hacked lumps out of it and started subjects then dropped them before I had written more than a couple of sentences. Had I written the full thing it would have been over 20k words and no-one would have read it.

    I see. That seems slightly different to Ollie's example, though. Still, we all write in different ways and that's what makes the blogging world so interesting.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:44

    fancy joining in a future panel show?

    You need to kee the addictionometer ticking over

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:46

    I might but knowing me I'd get all nervous and not say alot.

    You won't be as nervous as Lou was the first time. It took me weeks to convince her to do it. She loved it and now she has hosted th show.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 20:46

    Let me give an example. When I originally wrote my piece on Gilles Villeneuve fo F1 Pitlane it was supposed to be 500-1000 words on the anniversary of his death. It ended up being 4000-5000 words and I had hacked lumps out of it and started subjects then dropped them before I had written more than a couple of sentences. Had I written the full thing it would have been over 20k words and no-one would have read it.

    I seem to spend most of my time making my stats look meaningful and presentable and then about 2-3 hours writing and editing the post...

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 20:46

    Let me give an example. When I originally wrote my piece on Gilles Villeneuve fo F1 Pitlane it was supposed to be 500-1000 words on the anniversary of his death. It ended up being 4000-5000 words and I had hacked lumps out of it and started subjects then dropped them before I had written more than a couple of sentences. Had I written the full thing it would have been over 20k words and no-one would have read it.

    That is one of my problems - gets too long - secondly when I finished I think no-one is going to read this.

    I have a half done blog article entitled "F1 on a shoestring" - it examines a story in the past on motor-racing that I found hugely motivating - although it has a very sad end. I doubt if any one else would want to put it up though.

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:46

    I might but knowing me I'd get all nervous and not say alot.

    get get really nervous and have no idea what to say, but i've done a few panels and they weren't that bad. ;)

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:46

    I see. That seems slightly different to Ollie's example, though. Still, we all write in different ways and that's what makes the blogging world so interesting.

    Yeah, my process is more deliberate. I'll write it initially, then in the editing phase (which is straight after the race for race reports and takes about 5mins, my example), I'll intentionally omit/delete something I know is not that important but might encourage someone to comment it.

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:47

    You won't be as nervous as Lou was the first time. It took me weeks to convince her to do it. She loved it and now she has hosted th show.

    hahaha i get way to nervous with these things. which is kinda one of the reasons i don't ring in on the shows or anything.

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:47

    Sshh, I missed blogging Monaco and spent the weekend surfing. You're not supposed to remind of that awesome weekend. :D

    we missed you!

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:47

    get get really nervous and have no idea what to say, but i've done a few panels and they weren't that bad. ;)

    *I get

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:47

    I seem to spend most of my time making my stats look meaningful and presentable and then about 2-3 hours writing and editing the post...

    I have only scanned your last post but it looks really good. The layout is about perfect and the content is really good.

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 20:47

    I might but knowing me I'd get all nervous and not say alot.

    I get nervous about panels or sometimes even random voicemails but you've just gotta jump in and enjoy it really, it's always great fun to be involved.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:48

    Everybody's now scanning BF1 for omitted info. Sometimes, more often than you think, it is genuinely unintentional. I swear! :lol:

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:48

    I have a half done blog article entitled "F1 on a shoestring" - it examines a story in the past on motor-racing that I found hugely motivating - although it has a very sad end. I doubt if any one else would want to put it up though.

    Guest post?

  • me07/06/2009 at 20:48

    I have a half done blog article entitled "F1 on a shoestring" - it examines a story in the past on motor-racing that I found hugely motivating - although it has a very sad end. I doubt if any one else would want to put it up though.

    feel free to send it in sir. tuesday is a quiet day if you work better to a deadline.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:48

    get get really nervous and have no idea what to say, but i've done a few panels and they weren't that bad. ;)

    You really enjoyed them. weren't that bad?

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:48

    we missed you!

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 20:49

    I have only scanned your last post but it looks really good. The layout is about perfect and the content is really good.

    Cheers!

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:49

    Hmm, QIF1.co.uk - guest post galore...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 20:50

    Hmm, QIF1.co.uk - guest post galore...

    That's a good idea.

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:51

    You really enjoyed them. weren't that bad?

    yeah i did enjoy them. but i get super nervous though. more nervous than i do when doing speeches and stuff at school, which is strange i suppose.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 20:51

    I'm just writing a blog post on the 3 main racing games shown at E3, if anyone's interested.

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 20:52

    I'm just writing a blog post on the 3 main racing games shown at E3, if anyone's interested.

    Sounds goooood.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:52

    yeah i did enjoy them. but i get super nervous though. more nervous than i do when doing speeches and stuff at school, which is strange i suppose.

    Not really. Most people find it harder to speak in front of real people even if you know them.

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 20:52

    With all the paper tigers Joe refers has any one got a list of the supposed teams or reference to a list? I have seen somewhere there are 11 teams so with Williams and Force India confirming - it conveniently brings to 13 without including any current FOTA member.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:52

    I'm just writing a blog post on the 3 main racing games shown at E3, if anyone's interested.

    I'd be interested in reading.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:52

    I'm just writing a blog post on the 3 main racing games shown at E3, if anyone's interested.

    You have a blog

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:54

    You need to kee the addictionometer ticking over

    It's getting there, tonight I ditched the toxicfusion name. So no more hiding :P

    I get nervous about panels or sometimes even random voicemails but you've just gotta jump in and enjoy it really, it's always great fun to be involved.

    Heh I will get there, it took me several weeks before I could even talk to my boyfriend on the phone. I just need lots of poking :D

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 20:54

    You have a blog

    I know, it's a shock.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 20:55

    It's getting there, tonight I ditched the toxicfusion name. So no more hiding :P

  • RG07/06/2009 at 20:55

    It's getting there, tonight I ditched the toxicfusion name. So no more hiding :P

    It'll be a long time before I reveal my name in public

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 20:56

    It'll be a long time before I reveal my name in public

    We already know, Mr Garros

    ;)

  • lou07/06/2009 at 20:56

    Heh I will get there, it took me several weeks before I could even talk to my boyfriend on the phone. I just need lots of poking :D

    :D

    Spc are very good with the poking :) it took them ages to get me on a show but in the end they managed it :D

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:56

    It'll be a long time before I reveal my name in public

    Isn't it R***? (Apologies if that's accurate.)

  • RG07/06/2009 at 20:57

    We already know, Mr Garros

    I'll believe you find that its Mr G thank you very much.

    Isn't it R***? (Apologies if that's accurate.)

    Indeed.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:58

    Heh I will get there, it took me several weeks before I could even talk to my boyfriend on the phone. I just need lots of poking :D

    I'm sort of the same. I was very shy about interaction on the 'net, speaking live to lots of people and all that. But when you take part in a panel, it's more like a casual conversation between friends. You don't know them necessarily, but because you're all talking about the same passion, they seem like they've been friends forever. The panel is super easy, trust me. You'll love it.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 20:58

    It'll be a long time before I reveal my name in public

    Hehe, well Jay isn't much to go on, and my name on BatRacer is only half right. ;)

    :D

    Spc are very good with the poking :) it took them ages to get me on a show but in the end they managed it :D

    Good, I'm going to need a lot :D

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 20:59

    Indeed.

    Apologies. I did with hold your surname though.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 20:59

    Isn't it ****? (Apologies if that's accurate.)

    I don't think he wants it revealed just yet. I know his name from BATracer, when he had to put it. But I still refer to him as RG. ;)

    Funnily enough, I can't really think of an alias to go by. That's why on forums and stuff, I usually just go with my surname as a username, because I simply can't think of anything that fits.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 20:59

    Every year I get the winner of the Apprentice wrong. Every single time I have been wrong. Well every year Alan Sugar is wrong

  • RG07/06/2009 at 20:59

    Apologies. I did with hold your surname though.

    Thank you. Appreciate that.

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 21:00

    Every year I get the winner of the Apprentice wrong. Every single time I have been wrong. Well every year Alan Sugar is wrong

    Agreed

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:00

    Well every year Alan Sugar is wrong

    Darn tooting.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:00

    :D

    Spc are very good with the poking :) it took them ages to get me on a show but in the end they managed it :D

    It's a shame we have a volunteer and no show to put her on for weeks.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 21:00

    Every year I get the winner of the Apprentice wrong. Every single time I have been wrong. Well every year Alan Sugar is wrong

    He didn't pick the blonde one?

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:00

    I don't think he wants it revealed just yet. I know his name from BATracer, when he had to put it. But I still refer to him as RG. ;)

    If you check my page on the wiki of course.

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 21:00

    Thank you. Appreciate that.

    Will remove previous namecheck for ya RG.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:01

    I'm sort of the same. I was very shy about interaction on the 'net, speaking live to lots of people and all that. But when you take part in a panel, it's more like a casual conversation between friends. You don't know them necessarily, but because you're all talking about the same passion, they seem like they've been friends forever. The panel is super easy, trust me. You'll love it.

    I find that I forget anyone could hear it and while I am doing it there are only the people on the show or in the comments,

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:02

    Hehe, well Jay isn't much to go on, and my name on BatRacer is only half right. ;)

    Kathi can find it in seconds

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:02

    It's a shame we have a volunteer and no show to put her on for weeks.

    we could do some more tremayning in after the fia annoucement?

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:02

    Will remove previous namecheck for ya RG.

    Hahaha, I remember having to do that for a certain someone who commented on BF1 prior to SPC launching. Ended up searching+replacing in the mySQL program. lol. Memories...

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:02

    Well every year Alan Sugar is wrong

    if i scroll down is it going to have who he fired? do i need to disappear so i don't find out (haven't seen it yet waiting for it to come up on iplayer)

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:02

    Hahaha, I remember having to do that for a certain someone who commented on BF1 prior to SPC launching. Ended up searching+replacing in the mySQL program. lol. Memories...

    you did? aww, you are a legend squire!

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:02

    Once I get going though, there might be no stopping me :P

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 21:03

    if i scroll down is it going to have who he fired? do i need to disappear so i don't find out (haven't seen it yet waiting for it to come up on iplayer)

    noone has mentioned any names as to who he hired/fired

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 21:03

    Hahaha, I remember having to do that for a certain someone who commented on BF1 prior to SPC launching. Ended up searching+replacing in the mySQL program. lol. Memories...

    Yes. Me too :)

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:03

    noone has mentioned any names as to who he hired/fired

    good :D thanks

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:04

    Hehe, well Jay isn't much to go on, and my name on BatRacer is only half right. ;)

    But I have just remembered, I joined the sidepodcast facebook group a while ago so I might not stay hidden for long :D

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:05

    He didn't pick the blonde one?

    No he picked the one that made the worst product. He picked the one wh borrowed money from her mother a year ago to start a restaurant and looked like a complete muppet in the interviews.

    She thought they had stolen her company accounts insted of getting them from Companies House. She couldn't define turnover or figure out what the turnover, groos profir or net profit of her ow business.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:06

    if i scroll down is it going to have who he fired? do i need to disappear so i don't find out (haven't seen it yet waiting for it to come up on iplayer)

    Sorry Lou. Didn't see that comment before I gave the game away

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:07

    Funnily enough, I can't really think of an alias to go by. That's why on forums and stuff, I usually just go with my surname as a username, because I simply can't think of anything that fits.

    The Woodwissatron?

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:07

    Once I get going though, there might be no stopping me :P

    I only came here to post a comment about everyone supporting Martin Brundle when Max was going to sue The Times about his column. I think I may stay for a while

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:08

    Every year I get the winner of the Apprentice wrong. Every single time I have been wrong. Well every year Alan Sugar is wrong

    The bloody, bloody, bloody, bloody, bloody, bloody, Apprentice?

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:08

    Sorry Lou. Didn't see that comment before I gave the game away

    s'alright :) brought it on myself really :D i wont get time to watch it tonight anyway, and someone will probably insist on telling me at school as usual. lol

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:10

    Since we were talking about plugging, new post:

    http://thenorthernwaffler.blogspot.com/2009/06/putting-me-through-nightmares.html

    About BMW and such.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:15

    I am tempted to watch TWiT live to see if the Palm Pre incident gets discussed.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:16

    Finally I'm back. Sorry for missing the show. I did plug it on Twitter for the five minutes I was in earlier.

    Are we poking people to appear on podcasts?

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 21:17

    I'm blogging about the E3 racing games in 3 parts. First up, Shift:

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/06/e3-2009-round-up-part-1-need-for-speed.html

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:17

    I am tempted to watch TWiT live to see if the Palm Pre incident gets discussed.

    :)

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:18

    Finally I'm back. Sorry for missing the show. I did plug it on Twitter for the five minutes I was in earlier.

    saw that. appreciated.

    Are we poking people to appear on podcasts?

    always.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:19

    Finally I'm back. Sorry for missing the show. I did plug it on Twitter for the five minutes I was in earlier.

    Are we poking people to appear on podcasts?

    Jay who used to be toxicfusion has decided that she is going to use her real name and is a bit shy about appering on a show but could be persuaded.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:21

    Jay who used to be toxicfusion has decided that she is going to use her real name and is a bit shy about appering on a show but could be persuaded.

    I'm a he ;)

    :P

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:21

    Finally I'm back. Sorry for missing the show. I did plug it on Twitter for the five minutes I was in earlier.

    we're also collecting blog posts to plug on the daily post. if you're writing one, please yell.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:21

    Jay who used to be toxicfusion has decided that she is going to use her real name and is a bit shy about appering on a show but could be persuaded.

    Excellent. Has her name been added to the wiki list for the next panel series?

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 21:21

    Since we were talking about plugging, new post:

    I enjoy your blog-writing - very much!

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:21

    Excellent. Has her name been added to the wiki list for the next panel series?

    his name then

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:22

    I'm a he ;)

    it's cause you haven't phoned in yet :)

    next you're going to tell us your from australia too?

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:22

    I enjoy your blog-writing - very much!

    Thanks Rich!

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:22

    next you're going to tell us your from australia too?

    No, I'm from the England :D

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:22

    I'm a he ;)

    I would like to point out that I guessed that all along and the boyfriend comment did not persuade me otherwise.

    By the way, are you American...!? :lol:

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:23

    I'm a he ;)

    it's cause you haven't phoned in yet :)

    next you're going to tell us your from australia too?

    Yes you brought it on yourself.

    Oh bugger I was meant to phone/email something in too wasn't I. Dammit.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:23

    I'm a he ;)

    oops

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:24

    No, I'm from the England :D

    have ya mapped yourself?

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Listener+Map

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:24

    I would like to point out that I guessed that all along and the boyfriend comment did not persuade me otherwise.

    Haha.

    I am gay, but please don't imagine me to be extremely camp because I am the total opposite of that :D

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:25

    I would like to point out that I guessed that all along and the boyfriend comment did not persuade me otherwise.

    I did wonder why someone called Jay was being referred to as female, I've not known it as a female name.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:25

    By the way, the humour is that I am terrible at working out sexes on the 'net. I still don't know if Kris is a boy or a girl. They've been commenting on BF1 for ages, and SPC for almost as long. Avatar doesn't help me. I am officially terrible at that game.

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 21:26

    Eveinging, all, just got home, managed to catch the race, post a few comments then run out of battery power.

    So i missed the show, but in other news, I'm all set for 3 days at Goodwood!

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:26

    I am gay, but please don't imagine me to be extremely camp because I am the total opposite of that :D

    In that case there must be some other cliched stereotype you fulfil. Do you live in Brighton?

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:26

    have ya mapped yourself?

    I have now :)

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:26

    By the way, the humour is that I am terrible at working out sexes on the 'net. I still don't know if Kris is a boy or a girl.

    ahh, see you missed the science meetup.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:26

    So i missed the show, but in other news, I'm all set for 3 days at Goodwood!

    w00t. :)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:26

    I did wonder why someone called Jay was being referred to as female, I've not known it as a female name.

    As most folk know my brain is full of all sorts of disparate information. One of th members of Bucks Fizz was called Jay Aston.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:27

    ahh, see you missed the science meetup.

    You're not gonna tell me, are you. Damn you all. :)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:27

    By the way, the humour is that I am terrible at working out sexes on the 'net. I still don't know if Kris is a boy or a girl. They've been commenting on BF1 for ages, and SPC for almost as long. Avatar doesn't help me. I am officially terrible at that game.

    I get people wrong all the time

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:27

    In that case there must be some other cliched stereotype you fulfil. Do you live in Brighton?

    Or a fan of Ralf Schumacher or Sutil? :D

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:28

    In that case there must be some other cliched stereotype you fulfil. Do you live in Brighton?

    You got the first three letters right to be fair.

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:28

    One of th members of Bucks Fizz was called Jay Aston.

    have you ever thought of taking part in popmaster?

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 21:28

    Or a fan of Ralf Schumacher or Sutil? :D

    Are you incinuating that all Sutil fans are gay? Because I certainly am not!

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:29

    In that case there must be some other cliched stereotype you fulfil. Do you live in Brighton?

    I don't, I live near Bristol :)

    Or a fan of Ralf Schumacher or Sutil? :D

    I am not :P

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:29

    500th f1 minute:

    http://www.f1minute.com/2009/06/07/07-jun-09-vettel-misses-out-as-button-wins-in-turkey/

    rock on!

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 21:29

    rock on!

    Wahey, nice one Christine!

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:29

    rock on!

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:30

    Are you incinuating that all Sutil fans are gay? Because I certainly am not!

    Not at all! I like Sutil too!

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:30

    In that case there must be some other cliched stereotype you fulfil.

    Probably, but it only comes across in person. I also have to know you well enough to know that I can get away with things :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:30
  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 21:30

    Not at all! I like Sutil too!

    That's alright then :D

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:30

    Probably, but it only comes across in person. I also have to know you well enough to know that I can get away with things :P

    You so need to be on the next panel show. :)

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:31

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Listener+Map

    Just realised how close Lukeh is to me :D

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 21:31

    500th f1 minute:

    Wow, congrats, when you get to 600 i might sit down for a 10 hour special :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:31

    In that case there must be some other cliched stereotype you fulfil.

    Probably, but it only comes across in person. I also have to know you well enough to know that I can get away with things :P

    Do you fancy Jenson as well?

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:31

    have you ever thought of taking part in popmaster?

    I don't know anything like enough to do that. I tend to remember all sorts of utterly useless info. It's like the F1 stuff I remember. I had a discussion the other night about the cout cases following Mark Donohue's accident. That I remember but don't aske me who finished on almost any podium in the last ten years.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:31

    You so need to be on the next panel show. :)

    I know.

    So do I actually, I suppose I best do my one show a series early on.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:32

    have you ever thought of taking part in popmaster?

    I don't know anything like enough to do that. I tend to remember all sorts of utterly useless info. It's like the F1 stuff I remember. I had a discussion the other night about the cout cases following Mark Donohue's accident. That I remember but don't aske me who finished on almost any podium in the last ten years.

    Or just play Buzz?

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:32

    500th f1 minute:

    Well done Christine

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:32

    You so need to be on the next panel show. :)

    Heh well it looks like I will be at this rate :D

    Do you fancy Jenson as well?

    Nope, the only driver I kinda fancy is Alonso.

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 21:32

    Do you fancy Jenson as well?

    My gay friends all like Timo - I just wonder what that makes me.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:33

    My gay friends all like Timo - I just wonder what that makes me.

    Hmm Timo isn't bad :D

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:34

    Hmm Timo isn't bad :D

    Get off

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:34

    Hmm Timo isn't bad :D

    Get off

    :P

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:34

    Get off

    I've just realised the implications of that comment

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:34

    My gay friends all like Timo - I just wonder what that makes me.

    And a certain someone else...

    Isn't there a photo on SPC's drop with Timo, Romain and others, topless and looking rather manly-fine.

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 21:34

    I've just realised the implications of that comment

    Haha

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:35

    Get off

    Hehe

    I only like Alonso from 2006 onwards. I hated him during 05, wanted Kimi to win.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:36

    My gay friends all like Timo - I just wonder what that makes me.

    Somebody who would make friends easily with Jay?

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:36

    Isn't there a photo on SPC's drop with Timo, Romain and others, topless and looking rather manly-fine.

    Where?

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:36

    I only like Alonso from 2006 onwards. I hated him during 05, wanted Kimi to win.

    I used to think Kimi deserved more titles than he's won, but recently, I've changed opinion. He has the titles he deserves.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:36

    Isn't there a photo on SPC's drop with Timo, Romain and others, topless and looking rather manly-fine.

    There is?!?

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:37

    There is?!?

    1 sec.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:37

    Where?

    There is?!?

    Don't make me search for it. Just sroll back through SPC drop. It;s fairly recent. There at the swimming pool and showing six packs galore.

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:38

    There is?!?

    1 sec.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/timo-png

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:38

    There is?!?

    1 sec.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/timo-png

    Thank you Mr C.

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:38

    So i missed the show, but in other news, I'm all set for 3 days at Goodwood!

    woot! i erm... am still working on dad. he says i can go. but as he worked for and now with audi for years and they are a main part of goodwood this year he is trying to get tickets with them. i doubt he will suceed. but apparently we will be getting tickets... which is all i need to know :) hehe

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:39

    I don't, I live near Bristol :)

    Excellent, another westcountry representative.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:39
  • Rich07/06/2009 at 21:39

    Isn't there a photo on SPC's drop with Timo, Romain and others, topless and looking rather manly-fine.

    Really - I know there is a photo of Timo kissing another guy - but he ain't gay. He is just hilarious as a person.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:39

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/timo-png

    Thanks Mr C.

    Sooo, erm, thats err, some y'know, snazzy shorts Timo has there, erm, yeah, that, y'know.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:39

    woot! i erm... am still working on dad. he says i can go. but as he worked for and now with audi for years and they are a main part of goodwood this year he is trying to get tickets with them. i doubt he will suceed. but apparently we will be getting tickets... which is all i need to know :) hehe

    All you need to know is that I drive an Audi, I love Audi. I adore Audi. Freebies welcome, be it a new RS4, or a simple keyring.... ;)

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:39

    rock on!

    wohoo! here's to the next 500 :D

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:40

    I used to think Kimi deserved more titles than he's won, but recently, I've changed opinion. He has the titles he deserves.

    Agreed.

    I started watching from Brazil 03, and was a McLaren/Kimi fan up until 2006 where Fernando won me over. When he joined McLaren in 07 I was mega happy, until the Alonso/Hamilton thing and my love for McLaren just sort of evaporated. Since then I haven't followed a specific team just drivers (Alonso, Vettel, Glock) and have a big dislike for Hamilton/McLaren.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:41
  • Nick07/06/2009 at 21:41

    woot! i erm... am still working on dad. he says i can go. but as he worked for and now with audi for years and they are a main part of goodwood this year he is trying to get tickets with them. i doubt he will suceed. but apparently we will be getting tickets... which is all i need to know :) hehe

    That sounds great, reminded me of my new project. Step 1, get somewhere to stay...check Step 2 get tickets... in progress... and finaly step 3... get an enclosure pass...

    Anyone know how to get one of those :)

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 21:41

    woot! i erm... am still working on dad. he says i can go. but as he worked for and now with audi for years and they are a main part of goodwood this year he is trying to get tickets with them. i doubt he will suceed. but apparently we will be getting tickets... which is all i need to know :) hehe

    All you need to know is that I drive an Audi, I love Audi. I adore Audi. Freebies welcome, be it a new RS4, or a simple keyring.... ;)

    we'll i...umm...err....i (heart) alan mcnish!!!!!!!

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:41

    Really - I know there is a photo of Timo kissing another guy - but he ain't gay. He is just hilarious as a person.

    Wasn't there a rumour about Mr Montagny being gay. I can't say for certain, I heard from a certain admirer around these 'ere parts many moons ago...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:41

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/timo-png

    Wow :D :D

    A new member and he's already happy :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:42

    Really - I know there is a photo of Timo kissing another guy - but he ain't gay. He is just hilarious as a person.

    Wasn't there a rumour about Mr Montagny being gay. I can't say for certain, I heard from a certain admirer around these 'ere parts many moons ago...

    I thought he was married?

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 21:42

    All you need to know is that I drive an Audi, I love Audi. I adore Audi. Freebies welcome, be it a new RS4, or a simple keyring.... ;)

    So you're obviously a fan of the sound of the 5 cylinder in the Quattro rally car then? ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEK7POxpVeE

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:42

    A new member and he's already happy :D

    Hehe :D

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:42

    All you need to know is that I drive an Audi, I love Audi. I adore Audi. Freebies welcome, be it a new RS4, or a simple keyring.... ;)

    hahah :D

    ;)

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:42

    Wow :D :D

    All I can think of is that pic now.

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:43

    All I can think of is that pic now.

    *Think of Yohanna, Think of Yohanna*

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:43

    So you're obviously a fan of the sound of the 5 cylinder in the Quattro rally car then? ;)

    Oh yes.

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 21:43

    Wasn't there a rumour about Mr Montagny being gay. I can't say for certain, I heard from a certain admirer around these 'ere parts many moons ago...

    I think this surfaces because he owns a hair salon with a business partner. I have no other inside knowledge than this.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:43

    All I can think of is that pic now.

    Can we share? :D

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 21:44

    Just realised how close Lukeh is to me :D

    Woohoo!

    Bristol is awesome. I hear that you can buy shorts and sunglasses there. According to Rhod Gilbert

    :P

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:44

    I think this surfaces because he owns a hair salon with a business partner. I have no other inside knowledge than this.

    That was it. I might have elaborated in my own mind admittedly. Still, those chops... :D

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:44

    Can we share? :D

    Oh go on then.

  • Scott Woodwiss07/06/2009 at 21:45

    Oh yes.

    Good man.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:45

    I think this surfaces because he owns a hair salon with a business partner. I have no other inside knowledge than this.

    Perhaps the crucial determining factor is whether the establishment is described as 'a hair salon' or 'a barber shop'.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:45

    Bristol is awesome. I hear that you can buy shorts and sunglasses there. According to Rhod Gilbert!

    Haha, Bristol is awesome, I don't live there but its easier to put that than my actual town :D

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 21:45

    Perhaps the crucial determining factor is whether the establishment is described as 'a hair salon' or 'a barber shop'.

    As far as I know, it's a hair salon that turns into a nightclub.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:46

    Bristol is awesome. I hear that you can buy shorts and sunglasses there. According to Rhod Gilbert

    Oh that reminds me, Rhod Gilbert news: Lou said on Twitter that I should go to see him when he comes to my town. I've found out the date: June 15th. The night before an exam. I probably shouldn't go.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:46

    Oh go on then.

    You can have him most of the time though :)

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:46

    Oh that reminds me, Rhod Gilbert news: Lou said on Twitter that I should go to see him when he comes to my town. I've found out the date: June 15th. The night before an exam. I probably shouldn't go.

    ah that is a bit of bad timing :(

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:47

    You can have him most of the time though :)

    Yay! You are the best.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:47

    As far as I know, it's a hair salon that turns into a nightclub.

    Do I have to comment further on that...!? :)

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 21:47

    You can have him most of the time though :)

    Timeshare Timo?

  • Rich07/06/2009 at 21:47

    Haha, Bristol is awesome, I don't live there but its easier to put that than my actual town :D

    I lived not far from Bristol for a couple of year when I was kid - really like that part of England.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:47

    Eurovision of a different kind on BBC2 and BBC News Channel. Voting results. It isn't as much fun.

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 21:47

    Do I have to comment further on that...!? :)

    I normally choose not too :)

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 21:47

    As far as I know, it's a hair salon that turns into a nightclub.

    How truly brilliant, i have been looking for one of them for a while!

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 21:48

    How truly brilliant, i have been looking for one of them for a while!

    :D

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:48

    Eurovision of a different kind on BBC2 and BBC News Channel. Voting results. It isn't as much fun.

    And Douze seats to... the BNP.

    Thats how they should do it.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:49

    You can have him most of the time though :)

    Yay! You are the best.

    You can have him Wednesday through Sunday, I'll have him Tuesdays giving him Monday to recover :D

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:49

    You can have him Wednesday through Sunday, I'll have him Tuesdays giving him Monday to recover :D

    That sounds like a deal, barring race weekends of course. Then he can be my Paddock Dad!

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 21:50

    Eurovision of a different kind on BBC2 and BBC News Channel. Voting results. It isn't as much fun.

    They really are filling like a good'n, there hasnt been any good results for 50 minutes

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:50

    I lived not far from Bristol for a couple of year when I was kid - really like that part of England.

    It is, I moved here 13 years ago this year (I'm 20 ;)) and I've enjoued every moment :D

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:50

    They really are filling like a good'n, there hasnt been any good results for 50 minutes

    Normal election night then..

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:50

    They really are filling like a good'n, there hasnt been any good results for 50 minutes

    Normal election night then..

    I am going to abandon it to listen to this week's Joe show.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:51

    Elections should be like talent shows, where we can phone in and decide the winners :D

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:51

    I'd like to add my voice to those saying they enjoyed Gavin's FR post.

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 21:52

    Elections should be like talent shows, where we can phone in and decide the winners :D

    But then it really does becomes F1.. most cash wins

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 21:52

    Elections should be like talent shows, where we can phone in and decide the winners :D

    I think we did....it was called the European Elections a few days ago ;)

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:52

    Elections should be like talent shows, where we can phone in and decide the winners :D

    I like the Eurovision Elections that Pat suggested earlier, they could have three minutes bickering with each other and then its the turn of the next country. Then each country votes for the person they liked best and it goes into the nation votes with celebrities announcing who got what.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:53

    I like the Eurovision Elections that Pat suggested earlier, they could have three minutes bickering with each other and then its the turn of the next country. Then each country votes for the person they liked best and it goes into the nation votes with celebrities announcing who got what.

    I never suggested that!?

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:54

    Elections should be like talent shows, where we can phone in and decide the winners :D

    So half way through an audition speech we can get buzzes from judges. Eh. Eh. Eh. You're out. Next...

    I like that. Now, who would judge...

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:54

    I never suggested that!?

    I think you'll find

    Eurovision of a different kind on BBC2 and BBC News Channel. Voting results. It isn't as much fun.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:54

    But then it really does becomes F1.. most cash wins

    Hmm it is open to cheating.

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 21:54

    I like that. Now, who would judge...

    Me, obviously. I have a pinger.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:55

    Me, obviously. I have a pinger.

    :D I so want a pinger.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:56

    As much as I'm enjoying chatting to you all and answering your questions :D Unfortuantly work awaits me tommorow, so it's time for sleep :(

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:56

    night jay.

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 21:56

    As much as I'm enjoying chatting to you all and answering your questions :D Unfortuantly work awaits me tommorow, so it's time for sleep :(

    boo! nice to "meet" you :)

    night

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:57

    As much as I'm enjoying chatting to you all and answering your questions :D Unfortuantly work awaits me tommorow, so it's time for sleep :(

    G'night Jay.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:57

    As much as I'm enjoying chatting to you all and answering your questions :D Unfortuantly work awaits me tommorow, so it's time for sleep :(

    Good night

  • RG07/06/2009 at 21:57

    :D I so want a pinger.

    So do I, especially in school as well. Do a tick tock if they are talking too much.

    As much as I'm enjoying chatting to you all and answering your questions :D Unfortuantly work awaits me tommorow, so it's time for sleep :(

    Night Jay, nice talking with ya.

    Suppose I should be off as well, gonna sleep well tonight, a good thought and no test in the morning.

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 21:57

    I've managed to get drop.io working and have now uploaded a spreadsheet called the "F1 Fuel Fing"*. I really should credit Dad with this idea because he spotted me using Windows Calculator and Notepad to figure out the stint lengths and reckoned there had to be a better way of doing it...

    Version 1.1 is now available in drop.io in both Excel** and OpenOffice.org-native formats and features:

    - A table to automatically figure out maximum opening stint length given a few items of data (some pre-filled).

    - An extension of the same table to figure out fuel-corrected laps for those participating in Q3 given (part of) each driver's time and confirmation of which drivers made Q3.

    - A column that gives the rank for each driver's fuel-corrected lap i.e. which of them was fastest (a bug in version 1.0 had the order given the wrong way round. This is now corrected).

    - A circuit table giving the fuel effect, fuel consumption and "base weight" for cars at each track for which I have data from Formula 1 Yearbook.

    - A note/comment-based help system (fixes some references to non-functional/malfunctioning items in version 1.0).

    - Protection for the spreadsheet so you can't accidentally delete stuff. The password is clearly displayed on the spreadsheet because I anticipate some of the more adventurous people will want to update values for some protected items, possibly including the password itself (version 1.0 was supposed to have this implemented but I forgot to hit the "Protect" button").

    - Colour-coding to indicate what can be typed into (this includes the Help section because that's the only way to get two or more parts of the help system displaying simultaneously, or indeed to stay put if the mouse is accidentally wiggled during reading).

    I hope that this will allow people to quickly calculate the implications of the weight information themselves.

    * - What can I say? I felt more like being alliterative than being accurate in my spelling today.

    ** - Happily, this spreadsheet also works on the Mobile version of Excel, so those of you with a suitable (most likely Windows-based) mobile device can use this anywhere.

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 21:57

    Night Jay, hope to see you again soon in these parts :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:57

    Me too. Good night all!

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:57

    As much as I'm enjoying chatting to you all and answering your questions :D Unfortuantly work awaits me tommorow, so it's time for sleep :(

    hehe you'll soon be as nocturnal as the rest of us ;)

    night Jay

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:58

    Suppose I should be off as well, gonna sleep well tonight, a good thought and no test in the morning.

    Enjoy Monday, RG.

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 21:58

    I should explain that version 1.0 is also in drop.io, but I think mostly it will be there to demonstrate the folly of uploading before comprehensive testing...

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:58

    As much as I'm enjoying chatting to you all and answering your questions :D Unfortuantly work awaits me tommorow, so it's time for sleep :(

    Bye. Glad we have uncovered another semi-lurker.

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 21:58

    Have a good night, everyone who's off to bed.

  • Jay07/06/2009 at 21:59

    Night Jay, hope to see you again soon in these parts :)

    You will :D

    hehe you'll soon be as nocturnal as the rest of us ;)

    night Jay

    Definatly :D but i have to be up at half 6 to get to work :(

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 21:59

    G'night all who has left. G'morning Alia. :)

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 21:59

    Bye to all leaving.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 21:59

    I should explain that version 1.0 is also in drop.io, but I think mostly it will be there to demonstrate the folly of uploading before comprehensive testing...

    Thanks Alia. Did you read my post-qually blog entry?

  • lou07/06/2009 at 21:59

    Suppose I should be off as well, gonna sleep well tonight, a good thought and no test in the morning.

    night R.G

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 21:59

    Great idea Alianora. I look forward to going through the F1 Fuel Fing

  • me07/06/2009 at 21:59

    I've managed to get drop.io working and have now uploaded a spreadsheet called the "F1 Fuel Fing"*. I really should credit Dad with this idea because he spotted me using Windows Calculator and Notepad to figure out the stint lengths and reckoned there had to be a better way of doing it...

    cool! good plan.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:00

    Night RG

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 22:00

    Night RG

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 22:01

    Yes although the FIA broke its own rules as usual when it introduced them. According to Alianora there are two groups within the FIA that have to approve them before it goes to the WMSC? to get final approval and Max bypassed those stages.

    Sadly I don’t think this formed part of Ferrari’s case for an injunction. {Comment #7}

    This is correct. However, as far as I can see, the veto on its own should have sufficed.

    The reason why two bodies should have approved the rules before they were submitted to the WMSC is because there is a working group for each regulatory document. Since the budget cap entails alterations to both the Technical and Sporting Regulations, then both the TWG and SWG should have approved the change before the WMSC were invited to approve/disapprove.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:01

    Leo on Twit. Mike Arrigton will not be on this show.

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 22:02

    Alianora that looks like a great Idea, i look forward to testing it.

    Also, Night Mr Garros!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/06/2009 at 22:04

    Alia the fuel fing is fantastic and shall be very helpful to me in future :D

    Good night all, really am going now!

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 22:05

    G’night all who has left. G’morning Alia. {Comment #606

    Hello Ollie! I have to admit my access and willingness to utilise said access has been a bit patchy today. This morning I had about 20 minutes before Dad came in with the brilliant idea for the spreadsheet. Then there was a thunderstorm straight after the Grand Prix so I couldn't join the post-race chat. Then I had "feature creep" on the spreadsheet (initially it wasn't even going to do fuel-corrected times, let alone the stuff underneath it), accounting for the early evening and then there was a small virus scare on the computer through which my computer gains access to the internet (it's under control now).

    Now I can relax and enjoy the F1 world :D

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:09

    Now I can relax and enjoy the F1 world :D

    I heard the north and east were affected with storms today. Myself in south didn't get anything quite as dramatic, just rather dull weather. Good to have you around though. I mentioned you earlier in a comment. In case you read it out of context, no offense was intended. I'm pleased you are here in the general SPC discussion. I'll let you catch up.

    Virus scare eh? Darn Windows... :D

  • me07/06/2009 at 22:09

    Alia the fuel fing is fantastic and shall be very helpful to me in future :D

    agreed and night gavin.

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 22:12

    Thanks Alia. Did you read my post-qually blog entry? {Comment #608}

    I have to admit not (but I've caught up now :) ). Unfortunately I don't know where to find apex speed information after the fact either - I just tend to make a quick note if I happen to see a Force India in the top 8...

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:12

    Night Gavin

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 22:13

    Leo on Twit. Mike Arrigton will not be on this show.

    Do you think it's a coincidence that there appear to be a hundred people on today's TWiT? Like... these are my actual friends :)

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 22:14

    Good night all, really am going now!

    night

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:14

    Do you think it's a coincidence that there appear to be a hundred people on today's TWiT? Like... these are my actual friends :)

    It certainly has a very buddy buddy feel. His earlier comment about Arrington was in response to his chat room I think

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 22:20

    Thank you Steven, me, Nick, Gavin and anyone who I've missed thanking because they started typing after I began writing this comment. It is good to be appreciated and I'll make sure Dad knows other people find his idea useful :)

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 22:22

    I mentioned you earlier in a comment. In case you read it out of context, no offense was intended. {Comment #619}

    I haven't got there yet - I avoid going into the live shows when a show is running until I'm sure that a) it's finished or b) nobody else is using bandwidth at the same time as me. Attempting to load such a page when the bandwidth is shared tends to annoy both me and whoever's sharing the connection.

    I will remember to put the comment in its proper light when I am in a position to read the show comments.

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 22:24

    For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die!

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/06/07/the-great-gardening-adventure-week-2/

  • lou07/06/2009 at 22:26

    For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die!

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/06/07/the-great-gardening-adventure-week-2/

    yaay!!! :D

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 22:26

    For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die!

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/06/07/the-great-gardening-adventure-week-2/

    wooooot

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 22:27

    For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die!

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/06/07/the-great-gardening-adventure-week-2/

    Mmmmmmm... suddenly want to go get some strawberries and cream now!

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:28

    I will remember to put the comment in its proper light when I am in a position to read the show comments.

    :) The voice of a wise person. I was thinking of summing up the comment for you, but decided that follow-on comments were also very important. I'll let you read at your leisure.

    For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die!

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/06/07/the-great-gardening-adventure-week-2/

    You did better than my tomato plant series. And if you followed me that long ago, we've known each other for for far too long. ;) (Series and site now deleted as it was on muckyduck.me.uk, which precedes any version of my site that I can remember!)

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 22:28

    Is nobody concerned you house is being taken over by big green ever-growing monsters?

  • me07/06/2009 at 22:28

    For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die!

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/06/07/the-great-gardening-adventure-week-2/

    and big pic is up too: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:29

    and big pic is up too: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

    Great pic. :)

  • lou07/06/2009 at 22:29

    and big pic is up too: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

    that's an amazing photo!

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 22:30

    and big pic is up too: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

    Stole my thunder. Big meanie.

  • me07/06/2009 at 22:30

    and big pic is up too: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

    Stole my thunder. Big meanie.

    a man can't win!

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 22:30

    BNP gets first seat in Yorkshire and Humberside

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 22:31

    and big pic is up too: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

    love it as always :)

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:31

    Stole my thunder. Big meanie.

    We all know F1Minute thunder's all yours.

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 22:31

    BNP gets first seat in Yorkshire and Humberside

    They haven't had seats there for all this time, what have people been doing, just standing around or kneeling?

    *sorry, that was terrible*

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:32

    Thank you Steven, me, Nick, Gavin and anyone who I've missed thanking because they started typing after I began writing this comment. It is good to be appreciated and I'll make sure Dad knows other people find his idea useful :)

    Alianora,

    You should read some of the comments from after the Debrief tomight. There were a few comments about you blog that you may find interesting. All good.

  • lou07/06/2009 at 22:32

    Stole my thunder. Big meanie.

    you could plug your new post instead? (am just about to read it)

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 22:34

    you could plug your new post instead? (am just about to read it)

    It's very good

  • Christine07/06/2009 at 22:34

    a man can't win!

    :D

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 22:35

    and big pic is up too: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

    WOW

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:35

    For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die!

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/06/07/the-great-gardening-adventure-week-2/

    Strawberries are like weeds. You can't kill them and they spread like nothing you have ever seen. When I was a kid my parents got 4 small strawberry plants and in 3 or 4 years we had strawberries all down the side of the house. Any time we wanted some in season we could always get them despite all the neighbours and the local bird constantly dipping in to them. The neighnours were all told to help themselves any time.

  • Flibster07/06/2009 at 22:38

    Evening.

    Just got in after a long and boring drive home. Only relief was I got my mp3 player working with my car stereo so had I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue on random on the way home.

    Was the live show good?

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:39

    Was the live show good?

    No

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:40

    Was the live show good?

    Ignore Steven, 'twas great. :)

  • lou07/06/2009 at 22:40

    Was the live show good?

    ignore Steven it was great :D

  • lou07/06/2009 at 22:40

    Ignore Steven, 'twas great. :)

    really need to read people's comments before i press post. lol

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:41

    really need to read people's comments before i press post. lol

    That was scarily identical.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:42

    Ignore Steven, 'twas great. :)

    I always wanted to say a show was bad to see if anyone would believe it. It was a fun show

  • lou07/06/2009 at 22:43

    That was scarily identical.

    haha:)

  • Flibster07/06/2009 at 22:45

    90 miles at an average of 20mph...

    Oh how I love the A11...

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:46

    Oh how I love the A11...

    So not quite F11 then...? :)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:46

    Oh how I love the A11...

    Audi make an A11? :D

  • me07/06/2009 at 22:46

    I always wanted to say a show was bad to see if anyone would believe it. It was a fun show

    hehe :)

    replay is now up.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:46

    Audi make an A11? :D

    Seriously? Link?

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 22:46

    BNP gets first seat in Yorkshire and Humberside

    Nick griffin is being destroyed on Sky at the moment.

    F1 politics is much better :)

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 22:47

    For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die! {Comment #628}

    Excellent! Hope you enjoy them :)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:51

    Seriously? Link?

    The point of the smiley was to say they don't make an A11. He is talking about the A11 from London to Nofolk.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:52

    Tweet from Andy Taylor

    Swedish Pirate Party gains a seat in the European Parliament!

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 22:53

    Swedish Pirate Party gains a seat in the European Parliament!

    Arrrrrrr!

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 22:54

    The point of the smiley was to say they don't make an A11. He is talking about the A11 from London to Nofolk.

    I guessed. QIF1.co.uk is still available, by the way... smilie :)

  • Andy Taylor07/06/2009 at 22:55

    Swedish Pirate Party gains a seat in the European Parliament!

    Evening. Just managed to watch the race. Some good bits. Particularly liked seeing Piquet proving us all wrong. Sad to see Rubens retire though. Did you all notice how careful Ross Brawn was when answering Jake's question about the retirement?

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 22:55

    BNP gets first seat in Yorkshire and Humberside Comment #639

    That's... ...not good, at least from a personal viewpoint*. I can only hope that the BNP behave like stereotypical politicians so that the public can see through their rhetoric.

    * - My viewpoint is not only anti-special-treatment-for-"indigenous"-people, but pro-EU and pro-immigration. Almost the exact opposite of the BNP's view.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 22:58

    I guessed. QIF1.co.uk is still available, by the way... smilie :)

    Maybe one day but it will be a while

  • Andy Taylor07/06/2009 at 22:58

    That's... ...not good, at least from a personal viewpoint*. I can only hope that the BNP behave like stereotypical politicians so that the public can see through their rhetoric.

    They don't need to, they are doing a pretty good job already. Their latest campaign literature featured a Spitfire from a WWII RAF squadron that was made up almost entirely of Polish pilots and stock photos including builders from Portland, Oregon.

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 22:59

    They haven’t had seats there for all this time, what have people been doing, just standing around or kneeling?

    *sorry, that was terrible* {Comment #642}

    Yelling and grovelling mostly...

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 23:00

    Alianora,

    You should read some of the comments from after the Debrief tomight. There were a few comments about you blog that you may find interesting. All good. {Comment #643}

    Heading there now ;)

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 23:00

    That's... ...not good, at least from a personal viewpoint*. I can only hope that the BNP behave like stereotypical politicians so that the public can see through their rhetoric.

    Nick Grifin was just on BBC2. He was saying that voluntary repatriation available as government policy since the 70s. But it was not available for indiginous people. How can indiginous people be repatriated if they are already here.

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 23:01

    Maybe one day but it will be a while

    That's commitment, that is. You heard it here first. :) I'll keep it on standby. :D

  • lou07/06/2009 at 23:01

    okay i'm off to bed now i think. last exam in the morning. This time tomorrow i'll be freeeeee!!!!! :D

    night all x

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 23:01

    The conservatives have the biggest share of the vote in Wales???? How is that remotely possible?

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 23:02

    okay i'm off to bed now i think. last exam in the morning. This time tomorrow i'll be freeeeee!!!!! :D

    night all x

    Good luck in the exam. need to find a goodd game for the celbratory games night.

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 23:03

    okay i'm off to bed now i think. last exam in the morning. This time tomorrow i'll be freeeeee!!!!! :D

    night all x

    Oooooh i hate you ;)

    I don't believe in luck!! But i know you'll do great!!!

    Night!!

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 23:04

    okay i'm off to bed now i think. last exam in the morning. This time tomorrow i'll be freeeeee!!!!! :D

    night all x

    Good luck!

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 23:04

    The conservatives have the biggest share of the vote in Wales???? How is that remotely possible?

    Low turnout?

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 23:04

    okay i'm off to bed now i think. last exam in the morning. This time tomorrow i'll be freeeeee!!!!! :D

    night all x

    Good luck Lou. :)

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 23:04

    Low turnout?

    Quite possible, theres a lower count everyhwere

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 23:05

    okay i'm off to bed now i think. last exam in the morning. This time tomorrow i'll be freeeeee!!!!! :D

    night all x

    You'll do great, just go in, relax, and let your mind do the best of your ability :)

    night!! :D

  • me07/06/2009 at 23:06

    Maybe one day but it will be a while

    i heard "yes".

  • me07/06/2009 at 23:07

    okay i'm off to bed now i think. last exam in the morning. This time tomorrow i'll be freeeeee!!!!! :D

    night all x

    good luck lou.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 23:07

    Low turnout?

    Massively low turnout everywhere. Scotland was 28/29%

  • Nick07/06/2009 at 23:08

    Does anyone know who have the private enclosures at goodwood, or experience of getting in there?

  • me07/06/2009 at 23:08

    righto, we must sleep. thank you all for a brilliant day.

    i see christine has a new daily post up. shall see you in the comments in the morning.

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 23:09

    righto, we must sleep. thank you all for a brilliant day.

    see ya mr c. have good dreams of the world of f11 ;)

  • Ollie07/06/2009 at 23:09

    righto, we must sleep. thank you all for a brilliant day.

    And thank you guys.

  • Steven Roy07/06/2009 at 23:10

    Goodnight Mr C and Christine

  • Andy Taylor07/06/2009 at 23:10

    righto, we must sleep. thank you all for a brilliant day.

    But. But. But. It's only ten past midnight. Are you feeling OK?

  • Jon Waldock07/06/2009 at 23:10

    see ya mr c. have good dreams of the world of f11 ;)

    haha, i gotta sleep too!! It's 8 days until i'm done forever, it's within touching distance!!! woo 8-)

    Niggght all

  • Lukeh07/06/2009 at 23:11

    Niggght all

    night!

    think i'll join the bandwagon of sleepy people :P night to all :)

  • Andy Taylor07/06/2009 at 23:11

    think i'll join the bandwagon of sleepy people :P night to all :)

    and me, and yes I know I've only just arrived. Night night to all.

  • Pat W07/06/2009 at 23:16

    Just staying up until the South West result then off to bed too.

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 23:51

    Nick Grifin was just on BBC2. He was saying that voluntary repatriation available as government policy since the 70s. But it was not available for indiginous people. How can indiginous people be repatriated if they are already here. {Comment #674}

    That was a strange thing for Nick to say. Then again politicians do that frequently and them looking like every other politician is our best hope to removing the BNP presence from the government. They're getting votes because they promise to be different - and the sort of people who are voting for them will no more tolerate their broken promises than, say, Labour's.

  • Alianora La Canta07/06/2009 at 23:55

    The conservatives have the biggest share of the vote in Wales???? How is that remotely possible? {Comment #677}

    My local county council (which is not Welsh) turned from one of Labour's biggest strongholds to a Conservative council. Presumably it's all on the same logic - the Conservatives have been less affected by the expenses mess than Labour.

  • Steven Roy08/06/2009 at 00:00

    My local county council (which is not Welsh) turned from one of Labour's biggest strongholds to a Conservative council. Presumably it's all on the same logic - the Conservatives have been less affected by the expenses mess than Labour.

    Probably true despite both parties having MPs with their hands caught in the till. Labour are also getting the blame for the economy because they happen to be in government but the lack of regulations in the financial sector were also Conservative policy.

  • Nick08/06/2009 at 00:06

    Probably true despite both parties having MPs with their hands caught in the till. Labour are also getting the blame for the economy because they happen to be in government but the lack of regulations in the financial sector were also Conservative policy.

    There is also the problem of total leadership failure in the labour party, no one is really in control at this point. Labour's vote was spilt with other socialist party's. And the younger generation of the labour party are essentially conservatives, but felt alienated by Thatcher and thus confuse its message further. 12 years is about the limit for any party to be in power, before they start to be overwhelmed by their own failures and wrong decisions.

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 00:15

    With all the paper tigers Joe refers has any one got a list of the supposed teams or reference to a list? {Comment #426}

    I have one I keep updated. Looks like the latest edit is to move Force India from "Possibly unconditional" to "Unconditional".

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 00:27

    Probably true despite both parties having MPs with their hands caught in the till. Labour are also getting the blame for the economy because they happen to be in government but the lack of regulations in the financial sector were also Conservative policy.

    There is also the problem of total leadership failure in the labour party, no one is really in control at this point. Labour’s vote was spilt with other socialist party’s. And the younger generation of the labour party are essentially conservatives, but felt alienated by Thatcher and thus confuse its message further. 12 years is about the limit for any party to be in power, before they start to be overwhelmed by their own failures and wrong decisions. {Comment #701}

    Steven and Nick, I think between you you've hit the nail on the head. Admittedly, I'd probably have voted Lib Dem anyway, but Labour have made it impossible to vote for them in any election bar the national ones (and that one only because my local Labour MP is very much Old Labour).

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 00:35

    i site i think the f1 community needs, but one i have no time to work on, is somewhere where new bloggers can plug a new project and can quickly gain eyeballs / constructive criticism, but also where new content is always updating from older blogs. {Comment #322}

    That is very true, and "Quite Interesting Formula 1" would be a great title for it. Use a Yahoo! Pipes or something similar to get the older content and then bring in new blogs/guest writers by user recommendation. Similar to what F1-Pitlane was.

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 00:48

    Determination got me through, but all so often you see great sites fall by the way side because the owners felt nobody read them. {Comment #337}

    This is very, very true.

    Admittedly, this wasn't a problem for me, but then my blog started in a fairly unusual way. I had been minding my own business posting comments in a couple of fora when, in mid-2006, my co-admin decided that what the site really needed was a load of blogs to attract people into the forum. Several of us got given blog spaces and so I ended up one of six people trying to figure out how to blog. Although I'd heard of blogs before that point as part of my degree, I'd thought that:

    a) you needed to pay money (either to host the blog on someone else's server or to buy your own)

    b) all blogs were on extremely broad subjects (the academics of the time didn't seem to think anything narrower than "technology" could have a significant audience

    c) comments were the exception rather than the norm

    In fact, initially my comments were restricted to those people who'd registered for the forum. As a result, I was writing for an audience of about a dozen people at most. This was OK because I was using it as an experimentation platform and expression point.

    Then, on a whim, I decided to look to see if anyone else might possibly be doing the same thing in order to learn from them. To my surprise, over a dozen people were blogging (plus quite a few commenters) and to my even bigger surprise, some of them thought my blog wasn't completely rubbish by their standards. I did get some complaints about the commenting system being so restrictive, though, hence the current regime of allowing comments from everyone like... ...well, pretty much everyone else in the F1 blogosphere!

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 00:51

    I make a point of making comments on Alianora’s blog every so often even if I have nothing to say because what she is doing is unique and she gets so few comments {Comment #339}

    :blushes: Thank you, Steven! I might not worry if an entry receives no comments (I learned a long time ago that an uncommented entry can still have significant effects on readers), but they are very nice to receive :)

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 00:59

    Alia isn’t on one of the major blogging platforms, and the feed for La Canta Magnifica doesn’t work for me. {Comment #345}

    The feed issue has bugged me for some time now. I tried using Feedburner and that didn't work either (despite it working for Force India and several other sites I've seen). Even a home-brewed OPML feed didn't work. I'm not sure that the problem is fixable as such because there is no logical reason why the feed that comes with the template shouldn't work (at least if the support forum is anything to go by).

    Yet clearly the problem is there. All I can really do is use Twitter, and even that's haphazard because I've found half the time it doesn't load on my computer (and neither Adobe Air nor Twhirl will even install)...

    Given the problems I've had with "mainstream" blog-related stuff in the past (I can add problems with CAPTCHA in Blogger and getting Wordpress's site to load to the list off the top of my head), I doubt whether going with a mainstream CMS will even enable me to have the basic functionality I have with my current blogging platform, let alone an improvement.

    It's the perennial problem I seem to have, and not just on the internet - I can have a solution that works well enough for me to use or I can have one that works well enough for the world to use :( And I don't mean that to get upset at anyone because you've all been great, patient folk. It's just that the whole world/me interface doesn't seem to work properly at times...

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 01:11

    I honestly think if Alia took LCM to it’s own domain and... ...she would become one of the F1 communities biggest and most read bloggers. {Comment #345}

    Really?!?

    *faints*

    Whatever my other limitations, I could probably manage getting a pointer domain for the blog. It would save a fair bit of typing and might fit better on merchandise (which is a consideration when I find a shop that is prepared to process money for me...). If I made the forum a directory of the pointer domain (with it also retaining its current domain), I think my co-admin would approve (since migrating isn't a realistic option, I ought to make sure modifications I propose are as attractive as possible to those who could theoretically cut the link).

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 01:27

    This is exactly what I do. I always delete paragraphs from race reports, or lines from newsy-type stories just to encourage comments from people who want to share the obvious, but in their own way. {Comment #357}

    This is news to me. It never occurred to me that anyone would deliberately miss stuff unless it got in the way of the entry's narrative or it was information that shouldn't be posted at all for some reason.

  • Alianora La Canta08/06/2009 at 01:31

    This is exactly what I do. I always delete paragraphs from race reports, or lines from newsy-type stories just to encourage comments from people who want to share the obvious, but in their own way. {Comment #357}

    This is news to me. It never occurred to me that there would be any point in deliberately missing gaps. And to be honest, I don't think I've spotted that many obvious gaps in BlogF1 either. It's one of those things - an obvious gap to you may not be obvious to me and vice versa.