Race day in Turkey, and we're looking forward to it in Sidepodcast Towers, it's been a good weekend so far and hopefully the race will live up to expectations. Here are some of the things we're talking about:
- What was up with Alonso so that he could only qualify eighth with a ridiculously light car? We all know that the Renault is slow, and Piquet couldn't keep the darn thing pointing in the right direction, but this is Alonso we're talking about. Give him a light car and he should know what to do with it.
- Hamilton is already turning his attention to 2010, although perhaps only really hinting at it. His actual quotes suggest that he knows this year is a struggle and basically a write off, so he's looking forward to the McLaren comeback next year... if there is a next year, I suppose.
- We have finally managed to blog about the potential Lotus meetup. We've only been promising to do so for a couple of weeks now, so it's about time we got round to it. All the details you need to know are here, and we hope you can make it.
That'll do it for now. Don't forget you can catch up with all of yesterdays action in F1 Digest, in case you missed it or if you want a quick refresher. There'll be plenty of live threads popping up throughout the day, so I'll see you in the comments.
Gavin - I've seen on the Wiki you're concerned with travel to Hethel. I know for a fact you can get a train from London Liverpool St to Norwich and the penultimate stop is Wymondham. If you want (because I should be driving by then), I could meet you at the station, pick you up and we both travel to the factory together. How does that sound?
Dear All,
Can somebody please bring me up to speed on the court case where Ferrari argued they had veto rights on technical regulation changes. I know, I'm waaaay behind the times, but with all the talk of Ferrari being contractually obligated to appear in an FIA sanctioned world championship in 2010, I'd like some details.
Is it simply because the FIA presented the two tier system and Ferrari still have veto rights in the 'unlimited spending' category?
What I'd like to hear is that the FIA broke the contract and Ferrari can tell them to go jump but I fear it isn't that simple.
Thanks in advance,
Jeremy
As I understand it Ferrari have a veto on any new technical regulation as part o their 2005 deal. They are protesting the introduction of a budget cap and a two tier championship as being in breach of their agreement. They sued the FIA but the French court as it always did found in favour of the FIA. Quite why the court then didn't take action against the existence of the veto agreement I don't know as it is illegal under European law.
Ferrari now believe that the fact their veto has been overridden means the whole contract is null and void and they can walk but since the court found against them they would have a hard time trying to get away from the FIA.
I think the story is that Ferrari tried to get an injunction to prevent the FIA from imposing the 2 tier system, but the court sided with the FIA party because Ferrari had not used its veto when the changes were voted through.
The court proceedings revealed the existence of the veto, that Ferrari get more money and that Ferrari are contracted to race until 2012.
So someone at Ferrari messed up by not acting when the new rules were first presented to them?
Thanks for the replies.
Yes although the FIA broke its own rules as usual when it introduced them. According to Alianora there are two groups within the FIA that have to approve them before it goes to the WMSC? to get final approval and Max bypassed those stages.
Sadly I don't think this formed part of Ferrari's case for an injunction.
http://bit.ly/dJtIY
http://bit.ly/xl2pR
Thanks Andy. To summarise, the second link provided tells us that Ferrari claimed they hadn't been consulted. The court said that they had been, and that joining FOTA was their other mistake.
Evening/morning all. How are we today? I see Vettels on poll...but lighter....
They are in the wrong thread for some reason.
The Texas IRL race is about to start for anyone staying up. I am going to bed just as soon as I've finished my little blog post.
Oh, it isn't live on Sky though.
Just saw your tweet and I am looking for a feed
I'll ask someone
Blog post up, despite being short it still took a while. May need a rethink. Anyway, as much as I've love to stay up until 6am watching Texas I'm gonna crash out until the Parade Lap..
Good night Pat
Okay, I see it. Does that preclude us from talking about US open wheel racing?
However lame it might be
No. There are no limits as to what can be discussed. It just makes it easier for anyone trying to catch up later or if someone turns up they will apper in this thread.
For me this is good training for Le Mans next week.
Roger that. Are you watching the race though? Got my butt kicked at the blackjack tables today, so I'm licking my wounds and watching some racing. Licking my wounds equates to drinking beer, I suspect you knew that though
Yes. I have a stream so I will watch until my eyes close
Looking forward to that myself
Hoping Marco Andretti does what an Andretti does best, crash out and blame whoever is closest
From what they have said about this track in the build up there must be a good chance of that
Aitch, will do, I like Murrey Walker
That didn't take long. Yellow after 1 or 2 laps
I know and I'm a MIlka fan!
Looked like a puncture or a suspension roblem
problem
hav'nt gotten a good look, getting a beer. As long as Sarah Fisher is still running....a big fan of hers
She is OK Ithink. Rahal had a couple of twitches and Duno and Cio got together.
Yeah, I saw that. Everyone in IRL hates Milka, but I like her a little. Fisher did a good job, she's strong and smart
I'm sure you watched last years Indy 500 when Sarah crashed into TK. She was in tears after the crash. I went to her website and they were accepting donations for the race in Kentucky. I sent her a $100 check. A few weeks later she sent me a hand written card thanking me and a coin-sized peice of the crashed racecar. I gained alot of respect for Sarah after that.
I have heard from a couple of other people who had exactly the same experience and now they are serious fans
Come on Marco, screw up
Your right, Steven, he Graham said something broke
The back of the car stepped out two or three times in one lap. It looked totally unexpected to him each time. It wasn't like he was leaning on a tyre and pushed it over the edge.
Yup, I missed that on the broadcast.
By the way, my dislike of the Andretti's dates way back. But Mario stated a couple years ago that Marco is the quintesential F1 driver. I doubt that very seriously, he's not even a good Indycar driver.
I remember Mario saying that and being excited by it until I started looking at Marco seriously. He is n F1 driver
My hope for USF1 is Scott Speed and Jonathan Summerton
I have seen quite a few people suggest that pairing. I wonder if they would consider a foreign driver with a high profile like Jacques Villeneuve or Bourdais
I really don't have a problem with that. I think limiting 'ourselves' to American drivers is somewhat arrogant. But I think Scott got screwed by STR, he was a much better driver that what showed. Put him in the second Renault and we'll see what happens
Hey Dan
...or whatever you want to talk about
Sarah's 4 laps down
Who me?
I have lost my video feed. It dropped out a couple of times but came back but I have had nothing in 5 minutes
Yeah, you.
Hey Dans. My comment was to Dan Brunnell who was in another thread.
How are you?
Steven, they're in pits, nothing earth-shattering
He will just annoy the hell out of the team like he did before and Flav has even less patience than Berger.
Good thanks, just finished listening to An aside with Joe after a few babyshams at a barbie.
Love me a bit of Joe.
I know Clive Allen who is one of the most clued up bloggers on the net is a fan of Speed's and he analysed a load of data and is convinced he is much better than he showed.
Apparently not, since Piquet is still gainfully employed
Thats a whole 'nother story.
True. But I think Scott got cheated in the end. I hope he's not chained to Red Bull or soured on F1
I have no video feed and it is 4am so I am going to bed. Looks like I am going to get more sleep than I thought.
Hopefully Dario will get the job done without me.
See you tomorrow for the Parade Lap
Hello everyone.
Doing well. Just about ready to fix dinner. My heart says BBQ but my waistline is saying a salad.
BBQ some lettuce with everything else and its a salad
Steven, Briscoe looks like the Dude. Sleep well
They said in the preview he was the favourite.
Good night / morning. We need a non-specific phrase to cover sidepodtime
Actually, lightly BBQ'ed fruit like bananas, oranges, and apples are pretty good. Really brings out the flavor.
Good night steve.
Wow, there is actually a decent amount of people at the race. For an IRL crowd, that is pretty good.
Fruit on a BBQ. Like puttting fruit in beer, of course that's just me
Yeah, that why I don't like Blue Moon, Corona, or Widmer Hef Beers. Beer that requires a fruit just isn't right.
I actually lightly cook some apples on the BBQer, especially if I am smoking any pork like ribs.
Cheeky pit work by the andretti team.
I agree 100%
I hate Corona. Not because my ex-live-in like, but because my ex-live-in like it. But I hate it anyway
I really didn't want to look illiterate.
The only corona I like is the song by the minutemen. LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F6GPYd_xNA
No worries.
Thank you brother. Had a few pints of budweiser this evening
Good stuff happening in Texas. About twenty laps to go and the top eight cars are within a second on each other fighting each other.
I found out the hard way, but it was still fun
I wonder if Danica has a hard time walking with the way she carries the IRL. The amount of ads she is one is crazy. Whoever is her agent must be making a bucket load of duckets.
true. And she stumbled ass-backward into her first win. I still not 100% convinced it was not contrived. Hopefully IRL can live without her...I can
If you have'n seen the movie, do so and be prepared to laugh your arse offf.
I think I'll go and pick it up tomorrow
If Danica leaves, the IRL is screwed. She is the meal ticket. She is the only thing that the league has going for it. She is the best known driver in the series and like it or not is the face of the series.
I am not a fan. To me she is the Dale Earnhardt jr of open wheel racing. A lot of smoke and no fire.
If you have a job interview soon, wipe if from your memory. If you are laughing your ass off, it does not bode well for a job
Castroneves wins in Texas. Penske goes 1-2.
You're right. Alot of people like her in a swimsuit, but she does little in a drivers suit.
I appreciated your take on Dale Jr. He's unskilled. The cars that he won in, anyone could have won in...in my belief
I was in St. Pete when Helio climbed the fence in front of us, very cool thing
I don't really follow NASCAR that close, but i just don't understand the appeal of Dale. If his dad was still around, I get the feeling that he wouldn't like the way his son acts. To much whining and not enough results for the cars he has been in.
I really don't see the appeal with her to be honest. She really isn't that good looking by my judgment. (Too mousy by my taste.)
you are right. Dale Jr. caught alot of flack from Dale that he was partying all the time. I read something recently that Dale Jr. has now started to get shape. In the middle of his career, he's decided to get shape.....wake up!
It wouldn't be a IRL race if someone wasn't angry with Danica's driving.
She 's able to peice together a bunch of top fives, but that is it, nothing beter than fifith
Good point. But I want a real racer in F1 from the US. I'll stick to my guns, Scott Speed and Jonathan Summerton
Guys, I have to hit the rack if I'm gonna get up to watch the F1 race. Good night.
Good night. See you for the parade lap.
Soo... the calm before the storm eh?
I am awake, and it's still daylight. Success!
Actually it's the storm before the storm here. There is a ginormous storm going on here in my part of the UK (south London).
James Allen saying that it is Litespeed who are going to call themselves Lotus.
And he says that we'll all have to start growing mutton-chop sideburns!
http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/back-to-the-future-as-lotus-joins-f1-entry-list/
Morning all.
Hi Christine. Can you make the race start now?
Haha. If I had that kind of power, there are other things I would do first.
Hi Christine
Oh and good morning to you all too :) Here's hoping we get a good race today.
Oh goodness, now Autosport's picked up on it...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75903
I just realised I cannot watch the Parade Lap due to this whole dial-up thing. But that won't stop me from trying!
matches with what I'd heard. :D
WOOHOO!
Requirements for a real Lotus
1) Very pretty
2) Very advanced
3) Very fragile
That's the SPC spirit!
Do you have any free minutes on your mobile phone? Like Optus' free for the first 20 minutes thing? Or cheap landline calls?
I'm sure we can work something out to help you!
Hello All! Dinner then Parade Lap - Yay!
nope, but I'll cope. I shall probably just have lots of b-word.
Just on zedge.net trying to find an F1 ringtone, preferably the Ferrari V12 :D
I just found a ringtone of the music they use for the 2009 F1 intro ident :D
Anyone got any race predictions?
I think I'll go with: Webber, Rubens, Jenson. To be adventurous :D
Rubens for the win!
Go Lewis!
Who's with me? :D
probably his dad and THAT woman.
I hear he has other family as well. If he's ever short of support, I'm available...
What about free WiFi at Maccas?
When does the OneHD footage start for you? 9pm Australia time? Is it the BBC stuff or the Aussie commentators?
there is lots of free wifi around, i just can't be bothered leaving the house
starts at 9pm, the pre-show is the annoying ONE guys with a few updates from Peter Windsor. 99% of it is rubbish but occasionally there is something good.
Button,Vettel and Webber
Morning!
i'm sure it will be a surprise to you all what i say i'm predicting a Brawn 1-2, with Rubens winning :D , Vettel 3rd and just for fun i'll say Massa 4th.
Webber
Vettel
Barrichello (he has to finish ahead of Button at some point)
Button
I assume you record it anyway?
Cameron McConville is annoying as a commentator but is a really nice guy. Rusty is shorter than he looks but is a very professional little dynamo. Bring back Neil Crompton
Drop.io's stopped loading on my computer. Very frustrating because I have a new spreadsheet to help automatically calculate fuel stints and fuel-corrected Q3 laps.
Chris you'll have to phone in if you want to ask!
Right, Fed-watch for me and Amy. :)
:D
What was I saying about Fed in 4? Looks like it'll be Fed in 3 at this rate.
I wanted this to go long so I can use proper internet to see the end, but if it ending early means FEDDOMINATION I will accept that.
What on earth?!
Guy in red trying to be a footnote in history.
OH NOES I HAVE BEEN CAPPED AND INTERNET HAS STOPPED
OH NO! :( What a bad time. Rush off to the pub?
I'll stick with text updates and hope that this game goes at least another hour.
Soderling staying on serve - it just might.
I'll cross my fingers
did someone make it on court? seeing that would have FREAKED ME OUT. I remember Seles :(
Yep - am shocked security took so long.
hope it hasn't put him off his game :(
3-2 says it hasn't.
possible rain? rain would make the match go longer!
it's drizzling, but not enough to stop the match at the moment.
ta ra everybody. was good race in your company. next time
cheers ;)
heh I found the court invasion on youtube. Now to see if I can load it :D
eh?
daily thread is tennis chat at the mo :Pe
Soderling has indeed woken up - looks like we may be en route for a tiebreak.
what's the score? (am watching f1)
48 minutes til I can watch. Just watched the invasion on youtube, that actually did load, how scary for them!
5-5 15-0, Federer to serve.
blimey! that's close. thank you:)
do note that fed won set 1 with ease. np. :)
normally I hate tie breaks but Feds against Delpo yesterday was AWESOME
Link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2-QCXVN2s
tie breaks make me nervous :(
Fed 5-1 up on the court switch.
set 2 is pretty much his. Thankgod Rog, ONE TO GO. AND MAKE IT TAKE 35 MINUTES PLEASE.
:)
eeeek even though I can't watch I am loving this SO MUCH
BREAK
4 games to go for Fed - can Soderling hold on another 25 minutes for Amy?
It's not like I'd understand the ceremony in French anway, but I just wanna see the smile on Rogers and Mirkas faces.
actions speak louder than words. 22+ minutes left - Soderling should be about to get on the board this set anytime now.
1 game to go for Federer. Amy will make it - just. :D
are you watching a stream?
Watching it live on the telly. A shame it's only SD.
Nothing here. I mean, why telecast French tennis?
It just so happens to be in France this time round?
MY INTERNET IS BACK JUST IN TIME EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HISTORY
Aussi TV is hopeless at the moment
:D
I have tears streaming down my face right now! And I just made $50 :D
well, not yet.... BUT I WILL
It's all go isn't it!
JUST BREATHE ROGER JUST BREATHE
roger choking a bit
JUST BREATHE AMY JUST BREATHE
OMG MATCH POINT OMG
All done now!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
Is Amy alive?
CAREER SLAM BABY!
Oh thank goodness. I can sleep now
:)
shes imploded
:D
oh man if he wins Wimbledon and takes the 15 I'll cry again.
With Nadal possibly slightly hurt, I say he'll take it.
Hi all. Did i miss anything?
Seems that way
dont.ask
RG gets his name back
Oooh yeah
Are you happy now Roland?
I refuse the answer that until you call me by my proper first name, R
Poor Rodge... He looks a bit emotional!
:D
I have an ad break :(
Robin Soderling smiling - says that Roger is the greatest of all-time.
Good week's work for Rockin' Robin. We'll be seeing him for a while. :)
so nothing that interesting ;) Given the trouble with feeds we had yesterday, I figured I'd stay home and watch italian tv, but unfortunately have no internet. wasn't too bad. well apart from the race, which i didn't find that great. some good bits but ...
yup, was a bit boring
Where's Amy, BTW?
In pieces all over her flat....she exploded
glad you agree. i wasn't sure that i might have been missing some great tactical battle but once it became clear that Vettel's 3 stop wasn't going well, there wasn't a lot. I did enjoy Rubens barging his way through the pack.
dying watching the cutest presentation ever (my feed is super delayed)
not as much as mine. I have a guy watching the game and etcha sketching it for me.
heheh. I have an NBC feed who are thankfully translating Roger's beautiful French :)
oh and now hes speaking English, even better :D
No need - he repeats what he says in English right after speaking in French. :)
for the f1 i had the art of trying to pick out the english behind the italian or german (i was switching channels to who had interviews).
i might even (shock horror) leave a voicemail or two. the highlight for me was after the race when italian tv asked Lewis if he thought the team had reached the point to switch development to 2010 and he replied "i think for sure".
if anyone has a child and needs and an toy f1 car for them
I went to watch the end of the F1 that I had recorded and the recordings have failed because I think my flatmate has unplugged the aerial cable. It comes from her room, but now shes asleep and I can't wake her up. Fail.
Why did she do that? And yeah there's not a lot of point waking her up to ask why something didn't work. just head over to the torrent world i guess to get them ;) public holiday for you tomorrow right? shouldn't you be in a bar somewhere?
she does it by accident because it runs under her door and sometimes gets unplugged when she shuts it. public holiday means I can stay up for debrief and bounce off the walls for quite a while longer :D too cold to go to bars :D
Quote of the day: Federer to Agassi
"I don't miss you because you're here right now"
:D
makes sense. i've run that config in a house before. aah debrief? hmm. think i won't be around but enjoy yourselves :)
I think I should officially stop gambling, I am up $17.50 on where I started 2 weeks ago.
Yes you should. Stop while you're ahead.
thats the plan. $17.50 will buy me lunch :D
simple question you need to remember - if every bet lost, how much would you have lost?
$70
bet with your head, not over it ;)
i had this idea today that i should start gambling on F1. Ferrari are pretty bad now and i figure there'd be enough italians that bet with their hearts to pump in extra money to the kitty. the same as the price on a webber win will probably be better outside australia.
You are going to stop because you are making a profit
I don't have an addictive personality.
So you are making about 30%. Not many banks will give you 30% a fortnight on your money.
but a few banks would have taken the whole $70 ;)
I'm too risk-averse to bet more than $10 on each thing. If I was willing to bet more, I'd make more :D
If anyone missed the invasion of a spectator onto the final at RG todayclick here
This dude is mental!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVECa_y_7LY
BTW, was anyone able to check who sang Superstar earlier? I think it's Lupe Fiasco...
I believe it's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOCSyGPO4I
Yup, that's what I had. Thanks, Scott. :)
All we hear is radio Scotty!
I just have a knack for lyrics sometimes ;)
Watching GP2 Race 1 - it was SUPER hectic. :D
Thanks for the tip ;)
Do watch it - action-packed race it was. :)
Ooooh, and now Race 2. :)
Does anyone know where I could find a list of apex speeds for turn 8?
probably here
http://fialive.fiacommunications.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/timing.aspx
Now there's an interesting requirement... ;)
Note to self - Koenigsegg CCX + streets of Porto = bloomin' difficult.
It is ;)
I have seen this data collected and shown on screen in previous years and wondered if it is available this year?
Gavin did you see my link? I would think it's in on of those pdfs.
Just checking now cheers Scott...
I had a quick look. couldn't see anything that specifically mentions turn 8 - there was a speed trap mentioned, but doubt that is turn 8.
there is loads of timing data. every lap, every driver. pity it's in pdf or i'd play with it...
It's not there :(
Yeah the PDF thing sucks but it's easy enough to copy and paste...
yeah pity. they've given almost everything else.
way to technical for me ;)
heading offline. see you all later.
Likewise, its my teams presentation and I'm most likely to miss the debrief, though if I am lucky, I might catch the end of it. Bye and have fun
You know this scheme where you can scrap a car that's 10 years old or more? Couldn't someone exploit that by buying older cars for say £1000, trading them in at the dealers, getting £2000 for them and then using that to buy another car and so on and so forth. You could make a killing out of it.
Power on oversteer and grim understeer ?
Both!
haha, it never changes whatever game you're in, heavy cars with too much power are horid to drive
They're buying Saab apparently...
Can you imagine a Koenigsegg saloon?
I didn't know di Grassi is no longer connected with Renault after opting to tryout for Honda. It's now Grosjean and David Valsecchi wearing Renault colors in GP2.
No because you have to own the car for a year before you can do it. Beside most dealer will give you more than that off without a trade in.
Does anyone else in the world have cheekbones as chiselled as Mark Webber's? I do not have trouble visualising what his skull looks like.
Hey guys,
I have my Fantasy Racers Stats published here.
Hope ya like 'em ;)
Do you often imagine people without flesh?
You mean ghosts? Or skeletons? :P
I don't make a habit of it, but I can't help it when I see him.
Speaking of Mark, he's trying to upset Bernie:
"I said there was no atmosphere in Turkey. I think that there were a lot of people that tried to come in today but obviously it’s not that cheap and things like that but we should have let them in for free at the end. It would have been nice for the show to let people in. I’m sure there’s a lot of people that would want to come to the Turkish Grand Prix but can’t afford to because it’s very expensive."
I'm sure Bernie would rather die than let someone in for free
WOW. that post makes fantasy racers about 100 times more interesting to me.
now i can see it!
I heart your blog. Graphs make everything soooo easy to understand :D
There are some times you can't help but like Webber
and his skull.
the man's set a precedent now. we need this before 7pm every sunday ;)
Have never seen Mr C so excited about some graphs. I think you've done well, Gavin :)
the qualy graphs were excellent too, I may get excited when the weights come out, but the graphs actually made me understand them
Very well, indeed. With stuff like this, it's no wonder we're crushing the opposition in the leagues table...
hey everyone
evening.
When does the debrief thread go live
thread being written now. so, erm 7:15?
What a race today, can't wait 4 the show and Fridays FIA teams list
the caption on this photo makes me howl with laughter
have u heard the last race of this season will be shown in HD
has it been confirmed? all seems to be unsubstantiated forum rumours?
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/05/f1-may-get-first-hd-show-at-abu-dhabi/
hahaha, bbc news says the best bit about Lewham's weekend is overtaking Piquet....
you're life must be bad when thats your highlight
LOL
they forgot to mention the part where he gets repassed. :P
I am not a huge fan of Mark, but at the same time I do sometimes enjoy his comments. Last year when there was a prize to become a fan of Alonso, we all considered which driver one would want to be fan of and accompany to every race. At the time I thought Red Bull and to be the Mark Webber fan. Of course now that I have found out what a fun guy Timo is, he would be my first choice.
Thank you SO much for the lovely comments people - I feel really happy now :D
I just do not get it... I think it is to Lewis' credit he finished the race ahead of his team mate considering his qually went so bad.
Good - they are interesting to us fans.
Well that was enjoyable. :)
over here everyone! :)
Time to do some career on Race Pro methinks. Shall keep updated for anyone who's interested. :P
The was my first live show watching, it was really fun watching.
*waves arms frantically to signal attention*
Naomi (whoever) really is drunk isnt she
You soon find out what a great editor is when you see the difference between the live and the podcast
Christine - Question now long does it take you to edit the live show into the podcast
bedtime for me!
night (er, early morning) all:)
*how not now
sorry typo
night amy!!
A couple of hours.
morning amy ;)
Night Amy
so did anyone register formula11.com? :D
No-one said they did
Well I will be online for must of tomorrow and when the feed comes online will you alert everyone in the daily thread and it will make me laugh so hard!
for berries sake I can't type - I meant most not must
Oh, that reminds me. I did register either QIF1.com or QIF1.co.uk. If anyone wants it or can think of a great way to use it (bearing in mind I run BF1), feel free to suggest or email me.
The show should be up tomorrow night, and it will have an accompanying blog post with the show notes in.
I love how Martin runs around the grid and DC can't keep up. It's like when you look round schools with your parents, you're used to dodging people in the corridors but your parents can't do that, they're nice and polite. hehehehe
I'm always impressed with the cameraman/woman. They have a cumbersome camera to move around as well, but always manages to keep up with Martin.
Why did you register them?
From fake Lewis
Formula 1 needs longer tracks. Trust me. Getting lapped is... errr... dangerous
Sounded like a great URL (it is a great URL, in fact), and I did have Steven Roy in the back of mind at the time. Steven clearly has no interest in blogging/site running though.
Also, I'm a guy who has too many ideas that rarely come to fruition. It's incredible BF1 even made it to the 'net. :)
Ah cool, thought I had missed something :D
it is a great url.
i site i think the f1 community needs, but one i have no time to work on, is somewhere where new bloggers can plug a new project and can quickly gain eyeballs / constructive criticism, but also where new content is always updating from older blogs.
I don't write enough original stuff to justify a site. I did one run of guest posts here and came up with 4 subjects for the next set. I haven't looked at them in weeks if not months
do you need a poke?
*covers eyes*
Don't go giving me ideas :P
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/vettel-jpg
It must be great to see an F1 car going through the streets that close.
This has been copied and pasted into a note on my desktop. Great idea. Thank you. Do you think there are enough new projects in the F1 community though to keep the site regularly updated?
didn't kubica do that? are red bull running out of ideas?
I saw someone somewhere plug a site like that recently for general subject. So that people can post the occasional item and because lots of people are doing it there is constant content.
*poking Steven*
No I need to sort out the real world forst.
You're right, Kubica did do it, last year I think.
yeah. my guess is people will blog more if they have an audience.
Maybe he should have drunk Red Bull and flew there.
i saw it in f1racing i believe, going to collect an award of some kind.
That was when Vettel collected the Bandini Trophy. :)
now that would have been impressive :P
This is true. I remember the early days of BF1 and thinking "what's the point, no one's reading". Determination got me through, but all so often you see great sites fall by the way side because the owners felt nobody read them.
Kubica did it last year. http://www.f1technical.net/news/9151
I make a point of makingcomments on Alianora's blog every so often even if I have nothing to say because what she is doing is unique and she gets so few comments
I have a short memory :P
that's a fair point. we try and plug anyone who contributes here too because if they're making the effort, so should we.
we should try and plug mustcommentmonday some more.
I might write a new blog post, haven't done so in ages. And that was just for some photos.
daily posts, also are great for plugging posts, because we can be as random as we like.
please do ping us. i am subscribed, but i find more and more that rss is less useful than a combination of doohickey and tweetdeck.
I try to as well, but part of Alia's problem is why I don't comment often enough. But it isn't Alia's fault (and therefore not her problem). Alia isn't on one of the major blogging platforms, and the feed for La Canta Magnifica doesn't work for me. Alia's writing is awesome and unique and I love the lady for it. I just wish there was a feed that worked like all others and a commenting system that also worked like most others. I honestly think if Alia took LCM to it's own domain and to a general web-liked CMS, she would become one of the F1 communities biggest and most read bloggers.
I do not mean to take anything away from Alia though, as her writing really is that great I could never ever do that. But from a net-view, I really do think that the alliance Alia has with the forum she helps run is holding her back.
I do plug some on twitter, should do more on the daily.
I still have an f1 related blog entry in the draft stages still waiting to be finished that could be an interesting discussion point, still deciding over a few things with it, but hopefully i'll get it done in next few days :)
Mmm, same here. I really should get to updating the Super Season Grid. Just been busy concentrating on my new job and other things.
i would second that.
Forgot to add a link: http://formula1home.com/forum/weblog.php?w=5
All this talk of blogs, I'm happy that I don't have very much to say :D
need a poke?
(i need a new phrase for that).
What do you think of the general F1-orientated blogs? Are they worth reading, or do you still aim for Autosport/similar for the news/opinion/whatever takes your fancy?
need
a pokesome encouragement?im still writing it in all fairness :P
although so far it's had about 3 versions...
You could be right on that. The problem I have commenting at times is that I tend to agree with her and she covers subjects in such detail there are no holes to fill. Most comments I make are either disagreeing with people or looking at some aspect they have missed.
In the few things I have ever written I occasionally think of something I should add to give more detail then decide to leave a hole to give people room to comment.
This is exactly what I do. I always delete paragraphs from race reports, or lines from newsy-type stories just to encourage comments from people who want to share the obvious, but in their own way.
See, you're already great at blogging. :)
just noticed fakesebbuemismum tuned into tonight's show.
i feel bad for saying he's no vettel :(
is this the same idea as the sections you sent me the other day? (really good idea for a post so i hope it is)
Has any one seen this article FOTA teams have agreed to drop KERS ro next year.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75945
interesting. sometime's christine gets mad when we make mistakes in blog posts, or podcasts. but that's what encourages and motivates people to respond.
being wrong can be quite constructive to forwarding the conversation.
I used to just visit itv-f1.com and read the forums there and the flame wars that go on between the the Hamilton and non-Hamilton fans, the FIA(T) conspirators. Then I got linked here :D (and never looked back)
I don't actively go looking for blogs largely because I don't have time but any that I come across (or get linked to) I do read and enjoy the insight and opinions of other fans. I just don't comment, it isn't something that only happens on blogs, I'm the same on forums. I'm more of a lurker.
But I do agree with the idea by Mr C about the blog plugging.
Bad enough that you are in trouble with Christine. BTW did you get away with sticking up two fingers at Christine at the end of the show?
(but being deliberately wrong is BAD!)
(just in case GMM are reading)
BMW say they voted for it, and they're not even running it!
shhhhh! she missed that one.
No. That is good news. Basically that means BMW have admitted defeat because all the others wanted it banned before and they vetoed it.
S'alright, blame Steven.
This seems a bit odd to me, deliberately withholding information. I'd rather get everything out that's in my head and then ask some questions to further the conversation.
They still wanted it, but it was a majority decision.
it's hard to know how much an email means until you have a blog of your own. but feedback (via any medium) = the world to us.
I was confused. As far as I can see the only team to have a good one is Macca - but they are still struggling.
I do that because otherwise I would end up writing 20,000 words on everything. You have to edit to some degree. If you are writing a book you need to cover everything but if you are starting a conversation then you have to leave room for others to get in. Especially of they are not overconfident on the detail of the subject.
It's not major info, don't get me wrong. Hmm, let me think of an example...
...I can't think of one so I'll make up a typical Ollie-example.
I'll be writing up a race report and during the race, Glock shot by Trulli. the reason wasn't a race pass, it was clearly orchestrated by the team because both drivers are on differing strategies. I might negkect this info, or lean towards it but not give a reason.
This didn't actually happen, for the record, I believe I posted this 'incident'.
But I don't see it as with-holding info, because I'm not the info owner. I just didn't mention it. And someone comments it, and I'm like "ooh, good point. Thanks for sharing. Blah blah blah."
Well I love sidepodcast, just wish I had found it sooner. ;)
Even odder. The last time it was discussed they were the only objector. Even McLaren who seem to have it sussed wanted to ban it.
;)
The point is, the info usually gets shared, and if no one else does it, I'll eventually do it. But often it gives shy commenters something to say because it is so obvious, they don't get scared about being wrong. Psychology and all that. :)
Of course, and I totally understand the editing process. I just can't quite wrap my head around omitting something in the hopes it will start a conversation. Perhaps I am misunderstanding this slightly.
By the way, Thanks to Jay (toxicfusion) for responding. :)
I have a question concerning blogs actually, if you know mine so far I tend to write a lot... possibly too much... but does a lot of writing come at a cost when you're really into something and feel like there's a lot you could talk about?
I only say this because like I say, I tend to write a lot about things i'm passionate about, but this does lead to em worrying that it's simply too much to keep people interested...
If I had my sidepodaddiction would be higher than it is right now :P
I'm currently around stage 4.
Like friendfeed for Blogs?
that does make some sense to me.
Also, for the record, I always unintentionally miss something. Every single race. I simply cannot post every everything.
I have really enjoyed Joe's and James' blogs I think they give a very different perspective and some real analysis and opinion.
I read PlanetF1 for a laugh - when they try to write their own stuff it is so ridiculous it is actually funny - see link below as an example...
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3265_5368382,00.html
A good thing to do is split it up into a series, focus in on one specific bit of a topic each time.
That's why I stopped Blog No.1 and why I'm already enjoying Blog No's 2 & 3!
I totally agree. I'm love James's. I love Joe's as well. Brilliance.
fancy joining in a future panel show?
maybe. not sure i have FF sussed yet. just something that says "this is new, check it out".
I know the feeling I used to write reviews for a TV show and I'd make notes whilst it was on. Every 10 seconds I'd write something and miss something, eventually I put less and less in until I missed one week and thought "that was more fun" :D
Your posts are long but I enjoy them so that's fine by me - I just know your blog is in the 'cuppa tea and a biccie' category... :)
Let me give an example. When I originally wrote my piece on Gilles Villeneuve fo F1 Pitlane it was supposed to be 500-1000 words on the anniversary of his death. It ended up being 4000-5000 words and I had hacked lumps out of it and started subjects then dropped them before I had written more than a couple of sentences. Had I written the full thing it would have been over 20k words and no-one would have read it.
It has now been posted there and here and got quite a few comments each time which has resulted in me adding bits in pieces in the comments. I
Ah, that place with a terrible homepage. I get the idea though. *Ollie puts on his thinking cap, then goes to refill his glass with lovely Chianti*
I might but knowing me I'd get all nervous and not say alot.
I did that. It works ;)
I could have something like that in my blog if no-one else can be bothered...
I like Joe's sense of humour especially. Given I hated James' as a commentator I am surprised I like his writing!
rg made his name doing just that ;)
Sshh, I missed blogging Monaco and spent the weekend surfing. You're not supposed to remind of that awesome weekend. :D
I see. That seems slightly different to Ollie's example, though. Still, we all write in different ways and that's what makes the blogging world so interesting.
You need to kee the addictionometer ticking over
You won't be as nervous as Lou was the first time. It took me weeks to convince her to do it. She loved it and now she has hosted th show.
I seem to spend most of my time making my stats look meaningful and presentable and then about 2-3 hours writing and editing the post...
That is one of my problems - gets too long - secondly when I finished I think no-one is going to read this.
I have a half done blog article entitled "F1 on a shoestring" - it examines a story in the past on motor-racing that I found hugely motivating - although it has a very sad end. I doubt if any one else would want to put it up though.
get get really nervous and have no idea what to say, but i've done a few panels and they weren't that bad. ;)
Yeah, my process is more deliberate. I'll write it initially, then in the editing phase (which is straight after the race for race reports and takes about 5mins, my example), I'll intentionally omit/delete something I know is not that important but might encourage someone to comment it.
hahaha i get way to nervous with these things. which is kinda one of the reasons i don't ring in on the shows or anything.
we missed you!
*I get
I have only scanned your last post but it looks really good. The layout is about perfect and the content is really good.
I get nervous about panels or sometimes even random voicemails but you've just gotta jump in and enjoy it really, it's always great fun to be involved.
Everybody's now scanning BF1 for omitted info. Sometimes, more often than you think, it is genuinely unintentional. I swear! :lol:
Guest post?
feel free to send it in sir. tuesday is a quiet day if you work better to a deadline.
You really enjoyed them. weren't that bad?
:)
Cheers!
Hmm, QIF1.co.uk - guest post galore...
That's a good idea.
yeah i did enjoy them. but i get super nervous though. more nervous than i do when doing speeches and stuff at school, which is strange i suppose.
I'm just writing a blog post on the 3 main racing games shown at E3, if anyone's interested.
Sounds goooood.
Not really. Most people find it harder to speak in front of real people even if you know them.
With all the paper tigers Joe refers has any one got a list of the supposed teams or reference to a list? I have seen somewhere there are 11 teams so with Williams and Force India confirming - it conveniently brings to 13 without including any current FOTA member.
I'd be interested in reading.
You have a blog
It's getting there, tonight I ditched the toxicfusion name. So no more hiding :P
Heh I will get there, it took me several weeks before I could even talk to my boyfriend on the phone. I just need lots of poking :D
I know, it's a shock.
It'll be a long time before I reveal my name in public
We already know, Mr Garros
;)
:D
Spc are very good with the poking :) it took them ages to get me on a show but in the end they managed it :D
Isn't it R***? (Apologies if that's accurate.)
I'll believe you find that its Mr G thank you very much.
Indeed.
I'm sort of the same. I was very shy about interaction on the 'net, speaking live to lots of people and all that. But when you take part in a panel, it's more like a casual conversation between friends. You don't know them necessarily, but because you're all talking about the same passion, they seem like they've been friends forever. The panel is super easy, trust me. You'll love it.
Hehe, well Jay isn't much to go on, and my name on BatRacer is only half right. ;)
Good, I'm going to need a lot :D
Apologies. I did with hold your surname though.
I don't think he wants it revealed just yet. I know his name from BATracer, when he had to put it. But I still refer to him as RG. ;)
Funnily enough, I can't really think of an alias to go by. That's why on forums and stuff, I usually just go with my surname as a username, because I simply can't think of anything that fits.
Every year I get the winner of the Apprentice wrong. Every single time I have been wrong. Well every year Alan Sugar is wrong
Thank you. Appreciate that.
Agreed
Darn tooting.
It's a shame we have a volunteer and no show to put her on for weeks.
He didn't pick the blonde one?
If you check my page on the wiki of course.
Will remove previous namecheck for ya RG.
I find that I forget anyone could hear it and while I am doing it there are only the people on the show or in the comments,
Kathi can find it in seconds
we could do some more tremayning in after the fia annoucement?
Hahaha, I remember having to do that for a certain someone who commented on BF1 prior to SPC launching. Ended up searching+replacing in the mySQL program. lol. Memories...
if i scroll down is it going to have who he fired? do i need to disappear so i don't find out (haven't seen it yet waiting for it to come up on iplayer)
you did? aww, you are a legend squire!
Once I get going though, there might be no stopping me :P
noone has mentioned any names as to who he hired/fired
Yes. Me too :)
good :D thanks
But I have just remembered, I joined the sidepodcast facebook group a while ago so I might not stay hidden for long :D
No he picked the one that made the worst product. He picked the one wh borrowed money from her mother a year ago to start a restaurant and looked like a complete muppet in the interviews.
She thought they had stolen her company accounts insted of getting them from Companies House. She couldn't define turnover or figure out what the turnover, groos profir or net profit of her ow business.
Sorry Lou. Didn't see that comment before I gave the game away
The Woodwissatron?
I only came here to post a comment about everyone supporting Martin Brundle when Max was going to sue The Times about his column. I think I may stay for a while
The bloody, bloody, bloody, bloody, bloody, bloody, Apprentice?
s'alright :) brought it on myself really :D i wont get time to watch it tonight anyway, and someone will probably insist on telling me at school as usual. lol
Since we were talking about plugging, new post:
http://thenorthernwaffler.blogspot.com/2009/06/putting-me-through-nightmares.html
About BMW and such.
I am tempted to watch TWiT live to see if the Palm Pre incident gets discussed.
Finally I'm back. Sorry for missing the show. I did plug it on Twitter for the five minutes I was in earlier.
Are we poking people to appear on podcasts?
I'm blogging about the E3 racing games in 3 parts. First up, Shift:
http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/06/e3-2009-round-up-part-1-need-for-speed.html
:)
saw that. appreciated.
always.
Jay who used to be toxicfusion has decided that she is going to use her real name and is a bit shy about appering on a show but could be persuaded.
I'm a he ;)
:P
we're also collecting blog posts to plug on the daily post. if you're writing one, please yell.
Excellent. Has her name been added to the wiki list for the next panel series?
I enjoy your blog-writing - very much!
his name then
it's cause you haven't phoned in yet :)
next you're going to tell us your from australia too?
Thanks Rich!
No, I'm from the England :D
I would like to point out that I guessed that all along and the boyfriend comment did not persuade me otherwise.
By the way, are you American...!? :lol:
Yes you brought it on yourself.
Oh bugger I was meant to phone/email something in too wasn't I. Dammit.
oops
have ya mapped yourself?
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Listener+Map
Haha.
I am gay, but please don't imagine me to be extremely camp because I am the total opposite of that :D
I did wonder why someone called Jay was being referred to as female, I've not known it as a female name.
By the way, the humour is that I am terrible at working out sexes on the 'net. I still don't know if Kris is a boy or a girl. They've been commenting on BF1 for ages, and SPC for almost as long. Avatar doesn't help me. I am officially terrible at that game.
Eveinging, all, just got home, managed to catch the race, post a few comments then run out of battery power.
So i missed the show, but in other news, I'm all set for 3 days at Goodwood!
In that case there must be some other cliched stereotype you fulfil. Do you live in Brighton?
I have now :)
ahh, see you missed the science meetup.
w00t. :)
As most folk know my brain is full of all sorts of disparate information. One of th members of Bucks Fizz was called Jay Aston.
You're not gonna tell me, are you. Damn you all. :)
I get people wrong all the time
Or a fan of Ralf Schumacher or Sutil? :D
You got the first three letters right to be fair.
have you ever thought of taking part in popmaster?
Are you incinuating that all Sutil fans are gay? Because I certainly am not!
I don't, I live near Bristol :)
I am not :P
500th f1 minute:
http://www.f1minute.com/2009/06/07/07-jun-09-vettel-misses-out-as-button-wins-in-turkey/
rock on!
Wahey, nice one Christine!
:)
Not at all! I like Sutil too!
Probably, but it only comes across in person. I also have to know you well enough to know that I can get away with things :P
Sidepoddy 500!
That's alright then :D
You so need to be on the next panel show. :)
Just realised how close Lukeh is to me :D
Wow, congrats, when you get to 600 i might sit down for a 10 hour special :D
Do you fancy Jenson as well?
I don't know anything like enough to do that. I tend to remember all sorts of utterly useless info. It's like the F1 stuff I remember. I had a discussion the other night about the cout cases following Mark Donohue's accident. That I remember but don't aske me who finished on almost any podium in the last ten years.
I know.
So do I actually, I suppose I best do my one show a series early on.
Or just play Buzz?
Well done Christine
Heh well it looks like I will be at this rate :D
Nope, the only driver I kinda fancy is Alonso.
My gay friends all like Timo - I just wonder what that makes me.
Hmm Timo isn't bad :D
Get off
:P
I've just realised the implications of that comment
And a certain someone else...
Isn't there a photo on SPC's drop with Timo, Romain and others, topless and looking rather manly-fine.
Haha
Hehe
I only like Alonso from 2006 onwards. I hated him during 05, wanted Kimi to win.
Somebody who would make friends easily with Jay?
Where?
I used to think Kimi deserved more titles than he's won, but recently, I've changed opinion. He has the titles he deserves.
There is?!?
1 sec.
Don't make me search for it. Just sroll back through SPC drop. It;s fairly recent. There at the swimming pool and showing six packs galore.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/timo-png
Thank you Mr C.
woot! i erm... am still working on dad. he says i can go. but as he worked for and now with audi for years and they are a main part of goodwood this year he is trying to get tickets with them. i doubt he will suceed. but apparently we will be getting tickets... which is all i need to know :) hehe
Excellent, another westcountry representative.
Congrats!
Really - I know there is a photo of Timo kissing another guy - but he ain't gay. He is just hilarious as a person.
Thanks Mr C.
Sooo, erm, thats err, some y'know, snazzy shorts Timo has there, erm, yeah, that, y'know.
All you need to know is that I drive an Audi, I love Audi. I adore Audi. Freebies welcome, be it a new RS4, or a simple keyring.... ;)
wohoo! here's to the next 500 :D
Agreed.
I started watching from Brazil 03, and was a McLaren/Kimi fan up until 2006 where Fernando won me over. When he joined McLaren in 07 I was mega happy, until the Alonso/Hamilton thing and my love for McLaren just sort of evaporated. Since then I haven't followed a specific team just drivers (Alonso, Vettel, Glock) and have a big dislike for Hamilton/McLaren.
Wow :D :D
That sounds great, reminded me of my new project. Step 1, get somewhere to stay...check Step 2 get tickets... in progress... and finaly step 3... get an enclosure pass...
Anyone know how to get one of those :)
we'll i...umm...err....i (heart) alan mcnish!!!!!!!
Wasn't there a rumour about Mr Montagny being gay. I can't say for certain, I heard from a certain admirer around these 'ere parts many moons ago...
A new member and he's already happy :D
I thought he was married?
So you're obviously a fan of the sound of the 5 cylinder in the Quattro rally car then? ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEK7POxpVeE
Hehe :D
hahah :D
;)
All I can think of is that pic now.
*Think of Yohanna, Think of Yohanna*
Oh yes.
I think this surfaces because he owns a hair salon with a business partner. I have no other inside knowledge than this.
Can we share? :D
Woohoo!
Bristol is awesome. I hear that you can buy shorts and sunglasses there. According to Rhod Gilbert
:P
That was it. I might have elaborated in my own mind admittedly. Still, those chops... :D
Oh go on then.
Good man.
Perhaps the crucial determining factor is whether the establishment is described as 'a hair salon' or 'a barber shop'.
Haha, Bristol is awesome, I don't live there but its easier to put that than my actual town :D
As far as I know, it's a hair salon that turns into a nightclub.
Oh that reminds me, Rhod Gilbert news: Lou said on Twitter that I should go to see him when he comes to my town. I've found out the date: June 15th. The night before an exam. I probably shouldn't go.
You can have him most of the time though :)
ah that is a bit of bad timing :(
Yay! You are the best.
Do I have to comment further on that...!? :)
Timeshare Timo?
I lived not far from Bristol for a couple of year when I was kid - really like that part of England.
Eurovision of a different kind on BBC2 and BBC News Channel. Voting results. It isn't as much fun.
I normally choose not too :)
How truly brilliant, i have been looking for one of them for a while!
:D
And Douze seats to... the BNP.
Thats how they should do it.
You can have him Wednesday through Sunday, I'll have him Tuesdays giving him Monday to recover :D
That sounds like a deal, barring race weekends of course. Then he can be my Paddock Dad!
They really are filling like a good'n, there hasnt been any good results for 50 minutes
It is, I moved here 13 years ago this year (I'm 20 ;)) and I've enjoued every moment :D
Normal election night then..
I am going to abandon it to listen to this week's Joe show.
Elections should be like talent shows, where we can phone in and decide the winners :D
I'd like to add my voice to those saying they enjoyed Gavin's FR post.
But then it really does becomes F1.. most cash wins
I think we did....it was called the European Elections a few days ago ;)
I like the Eurovision Elections that Pat suggested earlier, they could have three minutes bickering with each other and then its the turn of the next country. Then each country votes for the person they liked best and it goes into the nation votes with celebrities announcing who got what.
I never suggested that!?
So half way through an audition speech we can get buzzes from judges. Eh. Eh. Eh. You're out. Next...
I like that. Now, who would judge...
I think you'll find
Hmm it is open to cheating.
Me, obviously. I have a pinger.
:D I so want a pinger.
As much as I'm enjoying chatting to you all and answering your questions :D Unfortuantly work awaits me tommorow, so it's time for sleep :(
night jay.
boo! nice to "meet" you :)
night
G'night Jay.
Good night
So do I, especially in school as well. Do a tick tock if they are talking too much.
Night Jay, nice talking with ya.
Suppose I should be off as well, gonna sleep well tonight, a good thought and no test in the morning.
I've managed to get drop.io working and have now uploaded a spreadsheet called the "F1 Fuel Fing"*. I really should credit Dad with this idea because he spotted me using Windows Calculator and Notepad to figure out the stint lengths and reckoned there had to be a better way of doing it...
Version 1.1 is now available in drop.io in both Excel** and OpenOffice.org-native formats and features:
- A table to automatically figure out maximum opening stint length given a few items of data (some pre-filled).
- An extension of the same table to figure out fuel-corrected laps for those participating in Q3 given (part of) each driver's time and confirmation of which drivers made Q3.
- A column that gives the rank for each driver's fuel-corrected lap i.e. which of them was fastest (a bug in version 1.0 had the order given the wrong way round. This is now corrected).
- A circuit table giving the fuel effect, fuel consumption and "base weight" for cars at each track for which I have data from Formula 1 Yearbook.
- A note/comment-based help system (fixes some references to non-functional/malfunctioning items in version 1.0).
- Protection for the spreadsheet so you can't accidentally delete stuff. The password is clearly displayed on the spreadsheet because I anticipate some of the more adventurous people will want to update values for some protected items, possibly including the password itself (version 1.0 was supposed to have this implemented but I forgot to hit the "Protect" button").
- Colour-coding to indicate what can be typed into (this includes the Help section because that's the only way to get two or more parts of the help system displaying simultaneously, or indeed to stay put if the mouse is accidentally wiggled during reading).
I hope that this will allow people to quickly calculate the implications of the weight information themselves.
* - What can I say? I felt more like being alliterative than being accurate in my spelling today.
** - Happily, this spreadsheet also works on the Mobile version of Excel, so those of you with a suitable (most likely Windows-based) mobile device can use this anywhere.
Night Jay, hope to see you again soon in these parts :)
Me too. Good night all!
hehe you'll soon be as nocturnal as the rest of us ;)
night Jay
Enjoy Monday, RG.
I should explain that version 1.0 is also in drop.io, but I think mostly it will be there to demonstrate the folly of uploading before comprehensive testing...
Bye. Glad we have uncovered another semi-lurker.
Have a good night, everyone who's off to bed.
You will :D
Definatly :D but i have to be up at half 6 to get to work :(
G'night all who has left. G'morning Alia. :)
Bye to all leaving.
Thanks Alia. Did you read my post-qually blog entry?
night R.G
Great idea Alianora. I look forward to going through the F1 Fuel Fing
cool! good plan.
Night RG
Night RG
Yes although the FIA broke its own rules as usual when it introduced them. According to Alianora there are two groups within the FIA that have to approve them before it goes to the WMSC? to get final approval and Max bypassed those stages.
Sadly I don’t think this formed part of Ferrari’s case for an injunction. {Comment #7}
This is correct. However, as far as I can see, the veto on its own should have sufficed.
The reason why two bodies should have approved the rules before they were submitted to the WMSC is because there is a working group for each regulatory document. Since the budget cap entails alterations to both the Technical and Sporting Regulations, then both the TWG and SWG should have approved the change before the WMSC were invited to approve/disapprove.
Leo on Twit. Mike Arrigton will not be on this show.
Alianora that looks like a great Idea, i look forward to testing it.
Also, Night Mr Garros!
Alia the fuel fing is fantastic and shall be very helpful to me in future :D
Good night all, really am going now!
G’night all who has left. G’morning Alia. {Comment #606
Hello Ollie! I have to admit my access and willingness to utilise said access has been a bit patchy today. This morning I had about 20 minutes before Dad came in with the brilliant idea for the spreadsheet. Then there was a thunderstorm straight after the Grand Prix so I couldn't join the post-race chat. Then I had "feature creep" on the spreadsheet (initially it wasn't even going to do fuel-corrected times, let alone the stuff underneath it), accounting for the early evening and then there was a small virus scare on the computer through which my computer gains access to the internet (it's under control now).
Now I can relax and enjoy the F1 world :D
I heard the north and east were affected with storms today. Myself in south didn't get anything quite as dramatic, just rather dull weather. Good to have you around though. I mentioned you earlier in a comment. In case you read it out of context, no offense was intended. I'm pleased you are here in the general SPC discussion. I'll let you catch up.
Virus scare eh? Darn Windows... :D
agreed and night gavin.
Thanks Alia. Did you read my post-qually blog entry? {Comment #608}
I have to admit not (but I've caught up now :) ). Unfortunately I don't know where to find apex speed information after the fact either - I just tend to make a quick note if I happen to see a Force India in the top 8...
Night Gavin
Do you think it's a coincidence that there appear to be a hundred people on today's TWiT? Like... these are my actual friends :)
night
It certainly has a very buddy buddy feel. His earlier comment about Arrington was in response to his chat room I think
Thank you Steven, me, Nick, Gavin and anyone who I've missed thanking because they started typing after I began writing this comment. It is good to be appreciated and I'll make sure Dad knows other people find his idea useful :)
I mentioned you earlier in a comment. In case you read it out of context, no offense was intended. {Comment #619}
I haven't got there yet - I avoid going into the live shows when a show is running until I'm sure that a) it's finished or b) nobody else is using bandwidth at the same time as me. Attempting to load such a page when the bandwidth is shared tends to annoy both me and whoever's sharing the connection.
I will remember to put the comment in its proper light when I am in a position to read the show comments.
For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die!
http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/06/07/the-great-gardening-adventure-week-2/
yaay!!! :D
wooooot
Mmmmmmm... suddenly want to go get some strawberries and cream now!
:) The voice of a wise person. I was thinking of summing up the comment for you, but decided that follow-on comments were also very important. I'll let you read at your leisure.
You did better than my tomato plant series. And if you followed me that long ago, we've known each other for for far too long. ;) (Series and site now deleted as it was on muckyduck.me.uk, which precedes any version of my site that I can remember!)
Is nobody concerned you house is being taken over by big green ever-growing monsters?
and big pic is up too: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/
Great pic. :)
that's an amazing photo!
Stole my thunder. Big meanie.
a man can't win!
BNP gets first seat in Yorkshire and Humberside
love it as always :)
We all know F1Minute thunder's all yours.
They haven't had seats there for all this time, what have people been doing, just standing around or kneeling?
*sorry, that was terrible*
Alianora,
You should read some of the comments from after the Debrief tomight. There were a few comments about you blog that you may find interesting. All good.
you could plug your new post instead? (am just about to read it)
It's very good
:D
WOW
Strawberries are like weeds. You can't kill them and they spread like nothing you have ever seen. When I was a kid my parents got 4 small strawberry plants and in 3 or 4 years we had strawberries all down the side of the house. Any time we wanted some in season we could always get them despite all the neighbours and the local bird constantly dipping in to them. The neighnours were all told to help themselves any time.
Evening.
Just got in after a long and boring drive home. Only relief was I got my mp3 player working with my car stereo so had I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue on random on the way home.
Was the live show good?
No
Ignore Steven, 'twas great. :)
ignore Steven it was great :D
really need to read people's comments before i press post. lol
That was scarily identical.
I always wanted to say a show was bad to see if anyone would believe it. It was a fun show
haha:)
90 miles at an average of 20mph...
Oh how I love the A11...
So not quite F11 then...? :)
Audi make an A11? :D
hehe :)
replay is now up.
Seriously? Link?
Nick griffin is being destroyed on Sky at the moment.
F1 politics is much better :)
For anyone keeping track, my strawberries did not die! {Comment #628}
Excellent! Hope you enjoy them :)
The point of the smiley was to say they don't make an A11. He is talking about the A11 from London to Nofolk.
Tweet from Andy Taylor
Swedish Pirate Party gains a seat in the European Parliament!
Arrrrrrr!
I guessed. QIF1.co.uk is still available, by the way... smilie :)
Evening. Just managed to watch the race. Some good bits. Particularly liked seeing Piquet proving us all wrong. Sad to see Rubens retire though. Did you all notice how careful Ross Brawn was when answering Jake's question about the retirement?
BNP gets first seat in Yorkshire and Humberside Comment #639
That's... ...not good, at least from a personal viewpoint*. I can only hope that the BNP behave like stereotypical politicians so that the public can see through their rhetoric.
* - My viewpoint is not only anti-special-treatment-for-"indigenous"-people, but pro-EU and pro-immigration. Almost the exact opposite of the BNP's view.
Maybe one day but it will be a while
They don't need to, they are doing a pretty good job already. Their latest campaign literature featured a Spitfire from a WWII RAF squadron that was made up almost entirely of Polish pilots and stock photos including builders from Portland, Oregon.
They haven’t had seats there for all this time, what have people been doing, just standing around or kneeling?
*sorry, that was terrible* {Comment #642}
Yelling and grovelling mostly...
Alianora,
You should read some of the comments from after the Debrief tomight. There were a few comments about you blog that you may find interesting. All good. {Comment #643}
Heading there now ;)
Nick Grifin was just on BBC2. He was saying that voluntary repatriation available as government policy since the 70s. But it was not available for indiginous people. How can indiginous people be repatriated if they are already here.
That's commitment, that is. You heard it here first. :) I'll keep it on standby. :D
okay i'm off to bed now i think. last exam in the morning. This time tomorrow i'll be freeeeee!!!!! :D
night all x
The conservatives have the biggest share of the vote in Wales???? How is that remotely possible?
Good luck in the exam. need to find a goodd game for the celbratory games night.
Oooooh i hate you ;)
I don't believe in luck!! But i know you'll do great!!!
Night!!
Good luck!
Low turnout?
Good luck Lou. :)
Quite possible, theres a lower count everyhwere
You'll do great, just go in, relax, and let your mind do the best of your ability :)
night!! :D
i heard "yes".
good luck lou.
Massively low turnout everywhere. Scotland was 28/29%
Does anyone know who have the private enclosures at goodwood, or experience of getting in there?
righto, we must sleep. thank you all for a brilliant day.
i see christine has a new daily post up. shall see you in the comments in the morning.
see ya mr c. have good dreams of the world of f11 ;)
And thank you guys.
Goodnight Mr C and Christine
But. But. But. It's only ten past midnight. Are you feeling OK?
haha, i gotta sleep too!! It's 8 days until i'm done forever, it's within touching distance!!! woo 8-)
Niggght all
night!
think i'll join the bandwagon of sleepy people :P night to all :)
and me, and yes I know I've only just arrived. Night night to all.
Just staying up until the South West result then off to bed too.
Nick Grifin was just on BBC2. He was saying that voluntary repatriation available as government policy since the 70s. But it was not available for indiginous people. How can indiginous people be repatriated if they are already here. {Comment #674}
That was a strange thing for Nick to say. Then again politicians do that frequently and them looking like every other politician is our best hope to removing the BNP presence from the government. They're getting votes because they promise to be different - and the sort of people who are voting for them will no more tolerate their broken promises than, say, Labour's.
The conservatives have the biggest share of the vote in Wales???? How is that remotely possible? {Comment #677}
My local county council (which is not Welsh) turned from one of Labour's biggest strongholds to a Conservative council. Presumably it's all on the same logic - the Conservatives have been less affected by the expenses mess than Labour.
Probably true despite both parties having MPs with their hands caught in the till. Labour are also getting the blame for the economy because they happen to be in government but the lack of regulations in the financial sector were also Conservative policy.
There is also the problem of total leadership failure in the labour party, no one is really in control at this point. Labour's vote was spilt with other socialist party's. And the younger generation of the labour party are essentially conservatives, but felt alienated by Thatcher and thus confuse its message further. 12 years is about the limit for any party to be in power, before they start to be overwhelmed by their own failures and wrong decisions.
With all the paper tigers Joe refers has any one got a list of the supposed teams or reference to a list? {Comment #426}
I have one I keep updated. Looks like the latest edit is to move Force India from "Possibly unconditional" to "Unconditional".
Probably true despite both parties having MPs with their hands caught in the till. Labour are also getting the blame for the economy because they happen to be in government but the lack of regulations in the financial sector were also Conservative policy.
There is also the problem of total leadership failure in the labour party, no one is really in control at this point. Labour’s vote was spilt with other socialist party’s. And the younger generation of the labour party are essentially conservatives, but felt alienated by Thatcher and thus confuse its message further. 12 years is about the limit for any party to be in power, before they start to be overwhelmed by their own failures and wrong decisions. {Comment #701}
Steven and Nick, I think between you you've hit the nail on the head. Admittedly, I'd probably have voted Lib Dem anyway, but Labour have made it impossible to vote for them in any election bar the national ones (and that one only because my local Labour MP is very much Old Labour).
i site i think the f1 community needs, but one i have no time to work on, is somewhere where new bloggers can plug a new project and can quickly gain eyeballs / constructive criticism, but also where new content is always updating from older blogs. {Comment #322}
That is very true, and "Quite Interesting Formula 1" would be a great title for it. Use a Yahoo! Pipes or something similar to get the older content and then bring in new blogs/guest writers by user recommendation. Similar to what F1-Pitlane was.
Determination got me through, but all so often you see great sites fall by the way side because the owners felt nobody read them. {Comment #337}
This is very, very true.
Admittedly, this wasn't a problem for me, but then my blog started in a fairly unusual way. I had been minding my own business posting comments in a couple of fora when, in mid-2006, my co-admin decided that what the site really needed was a load of blogs to attract people into the forum. Several of us got given blog spaces and so I ended up one of six people trying to figure out how to blog. Although I'd heard of blogs before that point as part of my degree, I'd thought that:
a) you needed to pay money (either to host the blog on someone else's server or to buy your own)
b) all blogs were on extremely broad subjects (the academics of the time didn't seem to think anything narrower than "technology" could have a significant audience
c) comments were the exception rather than the norm
In fact, initially my comments were restricted to those people who'd registered for the forum. As a result, I was writing for an audience of about a dozen people at most. This was OK because I was using it as an experimentation platform and expression point.
Then, on a whim, I decided to look to see if anyone else might possibly be doing the same thing in order to learn from them. To my surprise, over a dozen people were blogging (plus quite a few commenters) and to my even bigger surprise, some of them thought my blog wasn't completely rubbish by their standards. I did get some complaints about the commenting system being so restrictive, though, hence the current regime of allowing comments from everyone like... ...well, pretty much everyone else in the F1 blogosphere!
I make a point of making comments on Alianora’s blog every so often even if I have nothing to say because what she is doing is unique and she gets so few comments {Comment #339}
:blushes: Thank you, Steven! I might not worry if an entry receives no comments (I learned a long time ago that an uncommented entry can still have significant effects on readers), but they are very nice to receive :)
Alia isn’t on one of the major blogging platforms, and the feed for La Canta Magnifica doesn’t work for me. {Comment #345}
The feed issue has bugged me for some time now. I tried using Feedburner and that didn't work either (despite it working for Force India and several other sites I've seen). Even a home-brewed OPML feed didn't work. I'm not sure that the problem is fixable as such because there is no logical reason why the feed that comes with the template shouldn't work (at least if the support forum is anything to go by).
Yet clearly the problem is there. All I can really do is use Twitter, and even that's haphazard because I've found half the time it doesn't load on my computer (and neither Adobe Air nor Twhirl will even install)...
Given the problems I've had with "mainstream" blog-related stuff in the past (I can add problems with CAPTCHA in Blogger and getting Wordpress's site to load to the list off the top of my head), I doubt whether going with a mainstream CMS will even enable me to have the basic functionality I have with my current blogging platform, let alone an improvement.
It's the perennial problem I seem to have, and not just on the internet - I can have a solution that works well enough for me to use or I can have one that works well enough for the world to use :( And I don't mean that to get upset at anyone because you've all been great, patient folk. It's just that the whole world/me interface doesn't seem to work properly at times...
I honestly think if Alia took LCM to it’s own domain and... ...she would become one of the F1 communities biggest and most read bloggers. {Comment #345}
Really?!?
*faints*
Whatever my other limitations, I could probably manage getting a pointer domain for the blog. It would save a fair bit of typing and might fit better on merchandise (which is a consideration when I find a shop that is prepared to process money for me...). If I made the forum a directory of the pointer domain (with it also retaining its current domain), I think my co-admin would approve (since migrating isn't a realistic option, I ought to make sure modifications I propose are as attractive as possible to those who could theoretically cut the link).
This is exactly what I do. I always delete paragraphs from race reports, or lines from newsy-type stories just to encourage comments from people who want to share the obvious, but in their own way. {Comment #357}
This is news to me. It never occurred to me that anyone would deliberately miss stuff unless it got in the way of the entry's narrative or it was information that shouldn't be posted at all for some reason.
This is exactly what I do. I always delete paragraphs from race reports, or lines from newsy-type stories just to encourage comments from people who want to share the obvious, but in their own way. {Comment #357}
This is news to me. It never occurred to me that there would be any point in deliberately missing gaps. And to be honest, I don't think I've spotted that many obvious gaps in BlogF1 either. It's one of those things - an obvious gap to you may not be obvious to me and vice versa.