We have reached Thursday and most of the news is still about Flavio and how that is affecting everyone in the sport at the moment. There isn't much more to go on though, so perhaps it's worth looking at other things going on right now. Before I start, make sure you check out the new F1 Minute video. Onwards:

  • The good news is that Donington Park hasn't completely gone to the ground yet, as the Wheatcroft family now have the keys back in their possession, and they're committed to re-opening the circuit as soon as they possibly can. Tom Wheatcroft's son Kevin is now in charge, and his main priority is saving jobs and keeping things going for the fans.
  • Sauber have become the first team to announce their launch - now that the single group thing has been thrown out the window. At the end of January, just ahead of the first test of the year, we'll get to see a brand new car, apparently to be called the C29.
  • In what should be a new segment for F1 Digest previews this year, I want to gather together your thoughts about the circuits on the 2010 calendar. I've set up a wiki page to collect them, and it explains it better than I could do here, so dive right in and leave your opinion on the tracks we will visit this year. (Multiple thoughts per track are actively encouraged!)

That should do for now. Snow is still causing havoc around the UK, so we'll see what today brings! I'll catch up with you in the comments.

737 responses

  • me07/01/2010 at 00:15

    hello... thursday.

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 00:17

    sadly i did not win the lottery but 18 people did so instead of the 30mil they were expecting they only got 1.6 each. Sunny melbourne is lovely today, about 28 is the forecast

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 00:18

    woops the date changed. one day i will learn!

  • lou07/01/2010 at 00:20

    sadly i did not win the lottery but 18 people did so instead of the 30mil they were expecting they only got 1.6 each. Sunny melbourne is lovely today, about 28 is the forecast

    oh no!.. can you win next time please? ;) 28?? it's freezing here.. but we seem to be the only part of kent that doesn't have a huge amount of snow - boo!

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 00:20

    sadly i did not win the lottery but 18 people did so instead of the 30mil they were expecting they only got 1.6 each. Sunny melbourne is lovely today, about 28 is the forecast

    If I win the lottery, anyone from the comments that wants to, can come to Brazil for the proper season finale [hotel lights colour changes not included]

  • me07/01/2010 at 00:24

    If I win the lottery, anyone from the comments that wants to, can come to Brazil for the proper season finale [hotel lights colour changes not included]

    if you take us to brazil, i'll bring a lava lamp and squint ;)

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 00:24

    if you take us to brazil, i'll bring a lava lamp and squint ;)

    Deal

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 00:25

    if you take us to brazil, i'll bring a lava lamp and squint ;)

    I may get you a little tipsy though, probably before we land ;)

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 00:26

    hello... thursday.

    Already? I'm glad I just spent an enjoyable time blowing things up in C&C

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 00:27

    would you make sure no one robs or mugs us? The tales from brazil scare me

  • lou07/01/2010 at 00:28

    I may get you a little tipsy though, probably before we land ;)

    i'll come and document the trip for you all.. :P

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 00:29

    would you make sure no one robs or mugs us? The tales from brazil scare me

    I think multiple helicopter trips from the hotel roof could be the way to go

    Would that be ok?

  • lou07/01/2010 at 00:29

    would you make sure no one robs or mugs us? The tales from brazil scare me

    i'm sure you could start chatting to the mclaren people on twitter and can get us in the paddock and all safe and sound ;) or maybe mr c can talk to ted.. what with that affinity they have and all ;)

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 00:32

    i'll come and document the trip for you all.. :P

    I'd insist on it!

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 00:33

    would you make sure no one robs or mugs us? The tales from brazil scare me

    I spent a week in Sao Paolo and it wan't remotely scary.

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 00:35

    I spent a week in Sao Paolo and it wan't remotely scary.

    I've walked the streets of Phnom Penh after dark, I'd risk Sao Paolo with little worry

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 01:52

    If anyone wants their world turned upside down...

    Am listening to The Flaming Lips version of Dark Side of the Moon, it's pretty good

    http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/the-dark-side-of-the-moon/id346025381

    [hey, new daily seems appropriate for such startling revelations]

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 01:52

    in honour of spa i am going to go to lord of the fries and get the belgian ones for lunch. Love spa, giving me an excuse to eat chips.

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 01:53

    in honour of spa i am going to go to lord of the fries and get the belgian ones for lunch. Love spa, giving me an excuse to eat chips.

    Don't forget the mayonnaise

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 01:57

    As much as I like the S. Americans and their New World Reds, the Tuscans didn't get their Super prefix for nothing

    #sponsoredbysangiovese

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 02:02

    Am listening to The Flaming Lips version of Dark Side of the Moon, it's pretty good

    http://itunes....-the-moon/id346025381

    No, serioiusly.

    Put your Pink Floyd worship mat aside and check this out

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 02:02

    the mayo is what makes them belgian! I am not sure what they do to it but its the greatest mayo ever. If anyone is ever in melbourne id go so far as to call it a must do

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 02:03

    the mayo is what makes them belgian! I am not sure what they do to it but its the greatest mayo ever. If anyone is ever in melbourne id go so far as to call it a must do

    #probablyagarlicthing

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 02:05

    #probablyright

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 02:06

    #probablyright

    If you like that, you'll love [proper] Vietnam cuisine

    #lookingtogobackagainsoon

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 02:06

    #probablyright

    Garlic Mayo ROCKS!

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 02:08

    Am listening to The Flaming Lips version of Dark Side of the Moon, it's pretty good

    http://itunes....-the-moon/id346025381

    [hey, new daily seems appropriate for such startling revelations]

    Will check it out after work if I remember, right now I'm off to bed as I have finished my blog post about F1 Minute! Okay so two logos might be overkill, there's a text wrap issue on the second and there's probably too many links, but it is 2am...

    (I thought we were already in the new daily!)

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 02:08

    i wish lunch was sooner than 1 hour and 37 minutes away

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 02:08

    (I thought we were already in the new daily!)

    For most of Thurs we've been in Wed's post

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 02:09

    For most of Thurs we've been in Wed's post

    I was jumping tabs and not paying too much attention to that...

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 02:11

    For most of Thurs we've been in Wed's post

    I was jumping tabs and not paying too much attention to that...

    It seems to be a theme for the week until at least 2am

    [We're living in the past?]

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 02:12

    i wish lunch was sooner than 1 hour and 37 minutes away

    I get that a lot

    An insubstantial breakfast is to blame... and gluttony, of course ;)

  • me07/01/2010 at 02:18

    Will check it out after work if I remember, right now I'm off to bed as I have finished my blog post about F1 Minute! Okay so two logos might be overkill, there's a text wrap issue on the second and there's probably too many links, but it is 2am...

    way-hey.

    (hugs pat)

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 03:01

    Sleep calls

    Until the morrow...

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 03:47

    I am watching the review of the 2008 24 hours at LeMans.

    Man that Gulf Aston Martin DB9 is a gorgeous car.

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 03:47

    lunch time! If only the chips were closer than 2 blocks away. If only the lift would hurry up.

  • me07/01/2010 at 03:50

    lunch time! If only the chips were closer than 2 blocks away. If only the lift would hurry up.

    you're getting a lift?

  • me07/01/2010 at 03:50

    Man that Gulf Aston Martin DB9 is a gorgeous car.

    indeed. how come you're watching that?

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 03:54

    indeed. how come you're watching that?

    I'm a bit bored.

    I had it in my que for netflix. I was going to write some stuff up late last year how LeMans has been the driver of innovation last decade and how F1 needs to make itself relevant to the world again. Quiting KERS really didn't help F1's case.

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:00

    I had it in my que for netflix. I was going to write some stuff up late last year how LeMans has been the driver of innovation last decade and how F1 needs to make itself relevant to the world again. Quiting KERS really didn't help F1's case.

    it's not too late to write it now. i likes the sound of that.

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 04:03

    lift is necessary i work on the 13th floor ;)

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:06

    lift is necessary i work on the 13th floor ;)

    ooooh. assumed you meant a lift in a car :)

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 04:06

    lift is necessary i work on the 13th floor ;)

    you work on the FLOOR OF DHOOM!?

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 04:10

    :D i have my chips! Now to get back to my desk and eat. If only the lift would hurry up. ;) (4 of them, only 1 works)

  • Webby07/01/2010 at 04:10

    Good evening, well I suppose good morning for you guys! What did I miss?

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:14

    Good evening, well I suppose good morning for you guys! What did I miss?

    new video: http://www.f1minute.com/category/video/

    dan blogged: http://www.racingeagles.com/2010/01/a-open-letter-to-peter-windsor.html

    umm, loads stuff.

    (don't leave us again ;) )

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:14

    :D i have my chips! Now to get back to my desk and eat. If only the lift would hurry up. ;) (4 of them, only 1 works)

    you could run up the stairs?

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 04:21

    i took the stairs when we worked on the first floor but not anymore! It appears no one else knew lord of the fries had a new shop in the mall down the road as already 5 people have asked how i got them because their original store is quite far from here. i should totally be on commission.

  • Webby07/01/2010 at 04:24

    I like the video format!

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:24

    I like the video format!

    yay. publishing another as soon as it uploads. yell if there's anything we can make better.

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 04:31

    new video: http://www.f1minute.com/category/video/

    dan blogged: http://www.rac...to-peter-windsor.html

    I still don't know where you find all the time. Pure class.

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:32

    I still don't know where you find all the time. Pure class.

    it's 4:30 in the uk and i'm still awake :)

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 04:38
  • me07/01/2010 at 04:39

    Another reason why ESPN needs to take over the rights to F1 in America.

    am just not convinced about 3d yet. prepared to be proved but it just doesn't interest me.

  • Webby07/01/2010 at 04:39

    Well It's 9:30

    I still don't know where you find all the time. Pure class.

    pm yesterday here :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:40

    Well It's 9:30pm yesterday here :)

    ooooh. i need to work on your timezone!

  • Webby07/01/2010 at 04:40

    and apparently that is too late because I have lost the ability to properly comment

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 04:44

    i am so pleased to find someone else who doesnt care about 3d

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 04:45

    am just not convinced about 3d yet. prepared to be proved but it just doesn't interest me.

    I'm not, especially since it requires you to buy a new TV. Everyone has invested already in HD tv this decade.

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:45

    i am so pleased to find someone else who doesnt care about 3d

    it seems like a gimmick to upsell yet more hardware.

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 04:46

    I'm not, especially since it requires you to buy a new TV. Everyone has invested already in HD tv this decade.

    That said F1 (if done right) in 3D would be amazing.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 04:47

    That said F1 (if done right) in 3D would be amazing.

    it would, but they're not even doing HD yet, are they?

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:48

    That said F1 (if done right) in 3D would be amazing.

    no idea. i think it'll just give me a headache to be honest.

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 04:48

    it would, but they're not even doing HD yet, are they?

    That right... I forgot that this sport is run my the most technologically inept people ever.

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:48

    it would, but they're not even doing HD yet, are they?

    thus far no. only upscaled.

  • Webby07/01/2010 at 04:48

    it would, but they're not even doing HD yet, are they?

    I think it is the only major sport left in the world without HD :(

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:48

    That right... I forgot that this sport is run my the most technologically inept people person ever.

    ^^ fixed

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 04:50

    ^^ fixed

    :)

    Why do I get the feeling trying to explain HD to Bernie would be like me trying to explain to my grandpa a decade ago when he was still alive how to program his VCR.

  • Webby07/01/2010 at 04:51

    I don't know if they show the LG commercials in Europe like they do in Canada because all they talk about is "HD for the fastest sport in the world" and then when the coverage comes back it is very fuzzy :(

  • me07/01/2010 at 04:52

    I don't know if they show the LG commercials in Europe like they do in Canada because all they talk about is "HD for the fastest sport in the world" and then when the coverage comes back it is very fuzzy :(

    oh dear! no, haven't heard about that.

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 04:53

    i dont think i would find f1 in 3d very amazing. I have seen a few of the things specifically made for 3d and even they didnt impress me very much. They make me feel a bit sick.

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 04:53

    I don't know if they show the LG commercials in Europe like they do in Canada because all they talk about is "HD for the fastest sport in the world" and then when the coverage comes back it is very fuzzy :(

    Speaking of that, I thought that LG was supposed to be a technical partnership as well as a advertising deal.

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 04:56

    i miss the videos in press conferences. I wonder why they disappeared.

  • me07/01/2010 at 05:13

    new video published: http://www.f1minute.com/category/video/

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 05:48

    You know what Sidepodcast needs to do... we need to compete in the 25 hours of Thunderhill. Take a look at the starting gird and tell me with a straight face that wouldn't be fun.

  • me07/01/2010 at 06:05

    You know what Sidepodcast needs to do... we need to compete in the 25 hours of Thunderhill. Take a look at the starting gird and tell me with a straight face that wouldn't be fun.

    christine's pug would fit right in.

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 06:32

    You know what Sidepodcast needs to do... we need to compete in the 25 hours of Thunderhill. Take a look at the starting gird and tell me with a straight face that wouldn't be fun.

    christine's pug would fit right in.

    I have an old friend from high school that does a lot of corvette club racing. I wonder if she would be interested in something like this. It's only about a 14 car ride away from my place.

  • Jeremy07/01/2010 at 06:35

    lift is necessary i work on the 13th floor ;)

    when I go to head office twice a week, I work on the 13th floor too

    #amyfinity

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 06:37

    I have an old friend from high school that does a lot of corvette club racing. I wonder if she would be interested in something like this. It's only about a 14 car ride away from my place.

    14 HOUR car ride. I type like Christopher Walken talks sometimes.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 07:09

    Morning all.

    Man it's cold!

  • me07/01/2010 at 07:10

    Morning all.

    hullo.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:10

    Morning all.

    hullo.

    Morning all

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:10

    Man it's cold!

    There is a lot of snow out there.

  • me07/01/2010 at 07:11

    Morning all

    *waves*

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 07:14

    morning morning folks.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:17

    Mr and Mrs C love the F1 Minute video. Excellent work.

    Very smart use of live action in there. What's the difference in production time?

  • me07/01/2010 at 07:20

    Mr and Mrs C love the F1 Minute video. Excellent work.

    yippee.

    Very smart use of live action in there. What's the difference in production time?

    compared to inside track? inside track took 30 hours to produce a show, and at the moment f1 minute is about 6-7hrs. should get quicker though.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:21

    compared to inside track? inside track took 30 hours to produce a show, and at the moment f1 minute is about 6-7hrs. should get quicker though.

    Are you planning to go all F1 minute video all the time... Cos that's quite a lot of time. I meant compared to a F1 minute production.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:22

    Are you planning to go all F1 minute video all the time... Cos that's quite a lot of time. I meant compared to a F1 minute production.

    Christine is only ever on screen saying welcome to the date and goodbye see you tomorrow. So presumably you batch the recording of the live video?

  • me07/01/2010 at 07:23

    Are you planning to go all F1 minute video all the time... Cos that's quite a lot of time. I meant compared to a F1 minute production.

    gonna blog about it soon. in truth, we don't know until we try it. so we're trying it.

  • me07/01/2010 at 07:23

    Christine is only ever on screen saying welcome to the date and goodbye see you tomorrow. So presumably you batch the recording of the live video?

    are we gonna have to have the santa claus conversation with you too?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:24

    gonna blog about it soon. in truth, we don't know until we try it. so we're trying it.

    Favourite thing about you two :) Love it!

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:24

    are we gonna have to have the santa claus conversation with you too?

    Want to delete the comment?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:26

    Ooooh I really like this... Classic album covers as stamps: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8444156.stm

  • me07/01/2010 at 07:26

    Want to delete the comment?

    hehe. not at all, you know we'll talk about it (and probably live stream recording of it too).

    i just like to talk about these things after the fact, or at least once people have enjoyed them. otherwise it's like listening to the directors commentary first.

  • startledbunny07/01/2010 at 07:26

    i dont think i would find f1 in 3d very amazing. I have seen a few of the things specifically made for 3d and even they didnt impress me very much. They make me feel a bit sick.

    I've heard that they have to keep down the amount of things coming towards you during a film because it's not good for your eyes.

  • me07/01/2010 at 07:30

    I've heard that they have to keep down the amount of things coming towards you during a film because it's not good for your eyes.

    i can imagine it makes you constantly refocus.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:31

    i just like to talk about these things after the fact, or at least once people have enjoyed them. otherwise it's like listening to the directors commentary first.

    Yes. Agreed. I wondered what else you could sneak in.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 07:31

    I just had a moment which was positively Gamboling-esque!

    I was tying my tie in the men's bathrooms and a random colleague walks in (I don't know who he is). As I am halfway through my Windsor knot he turns to me and asks "How many times have you done this?"

    ...to which I reply "I got the knot right first time".

    He responds with "I meant, tying your tie in front of a mirror?"

    ...which I respond with "Oh, all the time! I mean, I can do it without the mirror but I am never satisified with the size of the knot or the length of the tie!"

    He responds "Yeah, me too!". We finish tying our ties, he leaves the bathroom and bids me good day.

    Totally random and yet quite thought-provoking at the same time!

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:31

    Yes. Agreed. I wondered what else you could sneak in.

    But I shall wait for the director's commentry like everyone else

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:35

    Totally random and yet quite thought-provoking at the same time!

    Excellent :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 07:43

    Ken Block (The mad Subaru Gymkhana guy) has signed a deal with Ford and M-Sport: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80754

    Frankly, with this guy and Kimi in the championship, I might just have to start watching WRC again ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 07:46

    Totally random and yet quite thought-provoking at the same time!

    Excellent :)

    I knew you would like it ;)

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:51

    I knew you would like it ;)

    Talking of gamboling, and the weather, my post today is about my proposed new temperature scale: http://www.gamboling.co.uk/2010/01/andronov-temperature-scale.html

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 07:56

    I knew you would like it ;)

    Talking of gamboling, and the weather, my post today is about my proposed new temperature scale: http://www.gam...emperature-scale.html

    So today in Denmark it's -11A?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 07:58

    So today in Denmark it's -11A?

    Blimey... That is cold!

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:05

    Talking of gamboling, and the weather, my post today is about my proposed new temperature scale: http://www.gam...emperature-scale.html

    you are mental. but i love it!

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:07

    you are mental. but i love it!

    Surely all we need to know these days is, "is it going to be warm". Seems to make much more sense.

    I think this archive series is going to be fun, because lots of people really haven't been reading since 2004!

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:08

    I think this archive series is going to be fun, because lots of people really haven't been reading since 2004!

    I'm going to get in even more trouble re: gorman from Christine right?

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:09

    I think this archive series is going to be fun, because lots of people really haven't been reading since 2004!

    agreed.

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:09

    I'm going to get in even more trouble re: gorman from Christine right?

    you are?

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:10

    from cali:

    Project Natal will be available this 2010 holiday season and will work with your existing xBox!

    boy.paper.screen << that is all

    http://twitter.com/CaliLewis/status/7466589883

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:11

    you are?

    I thought Christine was the bigger Gorman fan? Perhaps not.

    I only meant for withholding information. There's nothing bad about Gorman - of course not. Man's a genius!

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:11

    boy.paper.screen << that is all

    :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:11

    I thought Christine was the bigger Gorman fan? Perhaps not.

    than me? no-one is.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:12

    than me? no-one is.

    Ah. If only you had a personal blog then there would be a place you could write about all of this :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:12

    Ah. If only you had a personal blog then there would be a place you could write about all of this :)

    if only i had the time.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:14

    if only i had the time.

    I think that's what Amy said ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 08:25

    Talking of gamboling, and the weather, my post today is about my proposed new temperature scale: http://www.gam...emperature-scale.html

    Next job is metric time, my friend.

    How did you go on with the 6 day week challenge?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 08:25

    I thought Christine was the bigger Gorman fan? Perhaps not.

    than me? no-one is.

    I have heard of him but I don't know much of his work. Care to enlighten me?

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:30

    I have heard of him but I don't know much of his work. Care to enlighten me?

    british comedian. went and found 52 people in the world with the same name as him. i think one was bassano's neighbours.

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:33

    ooh, alex. did you see the crystal palace reference in the daily the other day? i remember thinking we should ping you, but then i forgot.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:33

    british comedian. went and found 52 people in the world with the same name as him. i think one was bassano's neighbours.

    Has a series on radio and TV where people suggest their Genius ideas like new temperature scales and he and a guest decide if they are Genius or not.

    (Note I was not on this show and haven't submitted anything to it - so it's not that if that's what you're thinking)

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:34

    ooh, alex. did you see the crystal palace reference in the daily the other day? i remember thinking we should ping you, but then i forgot.

    I did I commented I think (I hope)

    About the meal in the dino?

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:34

    (Note I was not on this show and haven't submitted anything to it - so it's not that if that's what you're thinking)

    ahh. was just checking i hadn't heard of you, before i heard of you.

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 08:34

    I think that's what Amy said ;)

    I have lots of time, just nothing to say :D

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:34

    About the meal in the dino?

    phew. didn't see the comment, but i've missed a lot of late.

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:35

    I have lots of time, just nothing to say :D

    could you ghost blog my inner thoughts?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:37

    ahh. was just checking i hadn't heard of you, before i heard of you.

    Ah probably not. Depends if you ever hung around in the comments on Dave's blog.

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:38

    Ah probably not. Depends if you ever hung around in the comments on Dave's blog.

    not too much, no.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:40

    not too much, no.

    Well in that case... Probably not. Leading us back to the only chance being after / before some random gig in Camden.

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:41

    Well in that case... Probably not. Leading us back to the only chance being after / before some random gig in Camden.

    true story (probably)

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:48

    true story (probably)

    My favourite post gig conversation ever was with Eliza Geirsdóttir of (Bellatrix and Skandinavia... well I was going to put fame, but probably not).

    I remember her explaining to me that her favourite tv channel was The History Channel +1. Because of course it was a live history of what was on another channel an hour ago. "It's like double history, but in a good way!" she said.

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:48

    something new from the itunes preview store:

    http://www.apple.com/uk/itunes/top-100/songs/journey/dont-stop-believin/

    30 sec song previews.

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:48

    I remember her explaining to me that her favourite tv channel was The History Channel +1. Because of course it was a live history of what was on another channel an hour ago. "It's like double history, but in a good way!" she said.

    woah!

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:49

    woah!

    I may turn that into a gamboling post at some point. So don't be surprised if you see it again. Along with the joke I wasn't smart enough to come up with live which was: "It's all just a little bit of history repeating".

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:50

    I may turn that into a gamboling post at some point. So don't be surprised if you see it again. Along with the joke I wasn't smart enough to come up with live which was: "It's all just a little bit of history repeating".

    hehehe :)

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 08:51

    Morning all.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:51

    Morning all.

    Morning :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 08:51

    Morning all.

    uh-oh.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:52

    uh-oh.

    is that the time?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 08:53

    I may turn that into a gamboling post at some point. So don't be surprised if you see it again. Along with the joke I wasn't smart enough to come up with live which was: "It's all just a little bit of history repeating".

    Shirley Bassey!

    Has anyone seen the spoof program called 'Rock Profiles'? It was made by the Little Britian people and it's available as an extra on the series one DVD. The Shirley Bassey parody in particular is brilliant!

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 08:58

    uh-oh.

    What have you done now?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 08:58

    Has anyone seen the spoof program called 'Rock Profiles'?

    I have indeed. As is the Take That one.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 09:00

    Has anyone seen the spoof program called 'Rock Profiles'?

    I have indeed. As is the Take That one.

    That was good too. And the Elton John one!

  • me07/01/2010 at 09:00

    What have you done now?

    nothing. just said i'd be asleep before the handover. and now i'm busted.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 09:00

    Just managed to catch up completely on a podcast and was really pleased with myself. I had been a way behind. And then I connected my iphone to the computer to sync and finish the process. And apparently there had been another one! Must catch up!

  • me07/01/2010 at 09:01

    our best mate eric has been chatting to radio monte carlo, and said something along the lines of:

    "There is a Frenchman on our list. There are several scenarios, including a French scenario, but this time this scenario has the smallest chance of success"

    media are reporting it as romain being out of a seat. i'm thinking it could mean franck's in with a slim chance.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 09:02

    nothing. just said i'd be asleep before the handover. and now i'm busted.

    Oh, I give up with that. You sleep when you sleeps and I'll see you when I see you :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 09:09

    choc-a-bloc checking out

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 09:10

    media are reporting it as romain being out of a seat. i'm thinking it could mean franck's in with a slim chance.

    I knew it!

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 09:11

    Just managed to catch up completely on a podcast and was really pleased with myself. I had been a way behind. And then I connected my iphone to the computer to sync and finish the process. And apparently there had been another one! Must catch up!

    Podcasts do have an annoying habit of doing that.

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 09:17

    I has learned that eee connects to wireless when signal is low where vaio does not. <3

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 10:09

    Morning everyone!

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 10:09

    Morning everyone!

    Morning Lukeh! How's it going?

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 10:10

    Morning Lukeh! How's it going?

    Not too bad. Blue skies and sunshine today but the masses of snow still remain. Lucky for me I'm having a lazy day and going to try get as much work done as possible *key word being try* :)

    How is life in sidepodland?

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 10:12

    How is life in sidepodland?

    Pretty chilly, by all accounts.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 10:15

    Hello, everyone. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 10:16

    Hello to all saying hello ;)

    Are you all safe and warm today?

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 10:17

    Safe and cool. It's too hot outside. Heheh.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 10:19

    Max: "One thing's for sure, it's very far from over."

    "As far as the FIA is concerned I would really want to hear what the superior court said before I would be prepared to acknowledge that the advice we got from outside lawyers was incorrect," Mosley told the Telegraph... But in any case the FIA can easily change its rules so that it takes account of what the court said. They said we weren't allowed to ban non-licence holders. Well obviously you can bring in a rule which does allow you to, if you wish."

    So basically, he'd ask Todt to change the rules and ban Flav again. Isn't he determined.

  • RG07/01/2010 at 10:21

    Mornin all.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 10:28
  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 10:29

    Morning all who have just turned up :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 10:29

    Max: "One thing's for sure, it's very far from over."

    Oh yay.

    First week of 2010 and it's already about the off track stuff :(

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 10:33

    First week of 2010 and it's already about the off track stuff :(

    F1 Is Awesome :D

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 11:02

    First week of 2010 and it's already about the off track stuff :(

    There isn't any on-track stuff yet.

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 11:04

    There isn't any on-track stuff yet.

    That is a very good point!

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:08

    There isn't any on-track stuff yet.

    I doubt there will be any until Melbourne as well ;)

  • Kathi07/01/2010 at 11:09

    I doubt there will be any until Melbourne as well ;)

    I'm pretty sure there will be ;)

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:14

    Oooh look at these purdy stamps - Lou will be happy there's a coldplay one

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8444156.stm

    Division Bell for Pink Floyd though?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 11:20

    First week of 2010 and it's already about the off track stuff :(

    There isn't any on-track stuff yet.

    Yeah but... my point was it's a new year, new president and the same old mud slinging :(

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 11:28

    Yeah but... my point was it's a new year, new president and the same old mud slinging :(

    Can we honestly remember a time when this didn't exist? Not recently, I'm pretty sure.

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 11:28

    Yeah but... my point was it's a new year, new president and the same old mud slinging :(

    Its all in good fun...

    Im reading the biography of Bernie, It seems F1 has always been more about the politics than the racing...

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 11:32

    Morning! It is still a snow day, so no school! :P

  • RG07/01/2010 at 11:34

    Morning! It is still a snow day, so no school! :P

    Had a lie in then?

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 11:36

    Had a lie in then?

    yes! It feels great. Listening Sidepodradio reruns again. Lots of fun.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:38

    does anyone know if Scott has blogged about this week's Thursday Thoughts yet?

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 11:38

    Yeah but... my point was it's a new year, new president and the same old mud slinging :(

    Mm. It's nonsense. I wasn't expecting anything less though.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 11:38

    does anyone know if Scott has blogged about this week's Thursday Thoughts yet?

    Is it on his blog?

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 11:39

    This Thursday has been very good so far. Lots of laughs at the office. :)

    How's your Thursday been so far?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 11:39

    This Thursday has been very good so far. Lots of laughs at the office. :)

    How's your Thursday been so far?

    Cold, but good thanks!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 11:40

    Yeah but... my point was it's a new year, new president and the same old mud slinging :(

    Mm. It's nonsense. I wasn't expecting anything less though.

    Exactly. My tolerance level for these stories is very low these days!

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:41

    Is it on his blog?

    Just had a look and nopey. Will wait for him to set up a post to respond to about it :)

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 11:42

    This Thursday has been very good so far. Lots of laughs at the office. :)

    How's your Thursday been so far?

    Snow leaves Britain very unprepared. School shut again. Taking the time to continue writing the show notes to my review of the decade.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:42

    How's your Thursday been so far?

    I am eating chocolate. No compalints here

  • RG07/01/2010 at 11:43

    How's your Thursday been so far?

    Alright, been watching F1 Season Review. Quite enjoyable.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:43

    Ooooh!! I forgot to say. My dream last night involved Franck Montagny which was really bizarre and a bit random in the way he was involved. I was at work and he came in asking where the toilets were, I said we didn't have any and he gave me a book about Toyota and there was something else I'm sure but I can never remember my dreams very well.. was a bit random him being in it though as it wasn't a F1 type of dream.

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 11:45

    Alright, been watching F1 Season Review. Quite enjoyable.

    is it the DVD?

  • RG07/01/2010 at 11:45

    is it the DVD?

    Yes.

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 11:45

    Ooooh!! I forgot to say. My dream last night involved Franck Montagny which was really bizarre and a bit random in the way he was involved. I was at work and he came in asking where the toilets were, I said we didn't have any and he gave me a book about Toyota and there was something else I'm sure but I can never remember my dreams very well.. was a bit random him being in it though as it wasn't a F1 type of dream.

    Toyota?

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 11:46

    Yes.

    it's great, but not fantastic.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:46

    Toyota?

    Don't ask.

    #blamemysubconscience

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 11:48

    Don't ask.

    :P

  • RG07/01/2010 at 11:49

    it's great, but not fantastic.

    I think that was because of the season itself.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 11:50

    Ooooh!! I forgot to say. My dream last night involved Franck Montagny which was really bizarre and a bit random in the way he was involved. I was at work and he came in asking where the toilets were, I said we didn't have any and he gave me a book about Toyota and there was something else I'm sure but I can never remember my dreams very well.. was a bit random him being in it though as it wasn't a F1 type of dream.

    Woohoo for Franck! Boo for Toyota!

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:51

    Woohoo for Franck! Boo for Toyota!

    I'm not sure why Toyota was involved but it was one of them really generic dreams as well. I have no idea why Franck decided to come shop at my shop. Sometimes you get deja vu from dreams... so who knows ;)

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 11:55

    I think that was because of the season itself.

    good point.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:56

    I think that was because of the season itself.

    Well I enjoyed every second of it

    ;)

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 11:57

    Well I enjoyed every second of it

    Not every second, surely.

    #rememberAbuDhabi

  • RG07/01/2010 at 11:57

    Well I enjoyed every second of it

    You, probably did. I, as I pointed out in the awesomly edited Season Review Megamix, did not like it.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:57

    #rememberAbuDhabi

    I forgot about Abu Dhabi! It was erased from my mind!

    #damnyoutilke

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 11:58

    I can also say that enjoyed Singapore because the naps I had from legard were oddly enjoyable, and I didn't miss much. Win win, really.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 11:58

    I think that was because of the season itself.

    Well I enjoyed every second of it

    ;)

    I still haven't seen last year's one!

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 12:00

    You, probably did. I, as I pointed out in the awesomly edited Season Review Megamix, did not like it.

    Brownie points for RG.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 12:01

    Toyota?

    Maybe Lukeh's subconscious remembers that Franck was, for a while, Toyota's 3rd driver...

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 12:01

    Maybe Lukeh's subconscious remembers that Franck was, for a while, Toyota's 3rd driver...

    Boo.

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 12:02

    I still haven't seen last year's one!

    :S

    Now that there are smaller teams, the cars will probably be slower, and will prompt overtaking and accidents. Hopefully the racing will be better this year.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 12:02

    Maybe Lukeh's subconscious remembers that Franck was, for a while, Toyota's 3rd driver...

    Oh yeaaaaah. My mind remembers rubbish stuff.

  • RG07/01/2010 at 12:02

    Brownie points for RG.

    Get in.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 12:08

    It's Lew Hams birthday!! Have a great day lew ham!

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 12:10

    It's Lew Hams birthday!! Have a great day lew ham!

    I have an autocourse calendar - it has all these birthdays on there.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 12:10

    It's Lew Hams birthday!! Have a great day lew ham!

    Wha..? Rats.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 12:16

    It's Lew Hams birthday!! Have a great day lew ham!

    Do you think he will call me? Maybe he's busy on his birthday?

    Mr. C. should send him a Birthday wave ;)

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 12:16

    It's Lew Hams birthday!! Have a great day lew ham!

    my present got lost in the post, I think.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 12:16

    Happy Birthday Lewis!

    Which reminds me... Michael Schumacher's birthday was on the 3rd. We seem to have forgotten. Well... I did anyway. :D

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 12:26

    Which reminds me... Michael Schumacher's birthday was on the 3rd. We seem to have forgotten. Well... I did anyway. :D

    Gah, my birthday remembering system is not working at all!

  • Lewis (Fire Hazard)07/01/2010 at 12:27

    Which reminds me... Michael Schumacher's birthday was on the 3rd. We seem to have forgotten. Well... I did anyway. :D

    41...in F1 driver terms, that's mega old.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 12:31

    Hi. I like the Andronov scale :-)

    Thursdays are a bit rubbish

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 12:39

    Hi. I like the Andronov scale :-)

    Thursdays are a bit rubbish

    Tuesday was my RRRRRRubbish day this week!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 12:49

    This Modnation Racers game looks interesting: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/01/littlebigracer-hands-on-with-modnation-racers-for-the-ps3.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

    Sorta like Little Big Planet for Racing games?

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 12:50

    Sorta like Little Big Planet for Racing games?

    Yep, it was debuted at E3 last year and it looks fantastic! The beta should be out and about this month too for the PS3 so I'm keeping my eye out

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 12:51

    An article on ASI, for those attending or planning to: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80760

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 12:56

    Lotus is gonna be testing their car on Feb 17th it's seems

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80763

    Still nothing from USF1 and Campos...

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 12:59

    Christine are you a mac user who doesn't like that the maximise button doesn't actually maximise?

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/185327/geektip_its_a_cinch_to_add_aero_snap_to_mac_os_x.html

    #confidentualfrommrc

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 13:00

    Christine are you a mac user who doesn't like that the maximise button doesn't actually maximise?

    I am one of those, yes :)

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:02

    Hi. I like the Andronov scale :-)

    Thursdays are a bit rubbish

    :) Yay!

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:02

    I am one of those, yes :)

    Me too... I am so paying for that!

    #confidentualfrommrc

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:04

    I am one of those, yes :)

    Me too... I am so paying for that!

    #confidentualfrommrc

    Chrome does Snap too, and Firefox on Mint...

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 13:05

    Me too... I am so paying for that!

    I sort of object to having to pay for what is sensible functionality.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 13:05

    I sort of object to having to pay for what is sensible functionality.

    *pay extra, I guess I should say.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:05

    Me too... I am so paying for that!

    I sort of object to having to pay for what is sensible functionality.

    Like copy and paste on the iPod?

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 13:06

    Thursdays are a bit rubbish

    I was late because of the ice on my car. It has a condensation problem so the inside gets as iced up as the outside - the trouble is it is easy to scrape it away, it's the last little thin film you can't see through but that won't go away is the problem! The heater is also broken otherwise I'd whack it on full and wait a couple of minutes.. I thought I'd left enough time, but no..

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 13:06

    Hi. I like the Andronov scale :-)

    Thursdays are a bit rubbish

    oh and I'm covering the phones and I hate phones

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:07

    Thursdays are a bit rubbish

    I was late because of the ice on my car. It has a condensation problem so the inside gets as iced up as the outside - the trouble is it is easy to scrape it away, it's the last little thin film you can't see through but that won't go away is the problem! The heater is also broken otherwise I'd whack it on full and wait a couple of minutes.. I thought I'd left enough time, but no..

    That sucks :(

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 13:07

    What scale is this? I think my Thursday is more than a bit of rubbish....

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 13:07

    Like copy and paste on the iPod?

    That's slightly different, but yea, if you bought the upgrade just for copy/paste.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:08

    Me too... I am so paying for that!

    I sort of object to having to pay for what is sensible functionality.

    Like copy and paste on the iPod?

    Well... now hold on these are two different things.

    1) Apple should have fixed this maximise in the OS they haven't so we're paying somebody else who has written an app. I don't mind paying the other people. But wish I didn't have to because Apple should fix the problem.

    however

    2) When Apple releases a new version of an operating system for the iPhone surely they can charge for it no? Or should they give you new versions for free forever for your iPod?

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 13:08

    Lotus is gonna be testing their car on Feb 17th it's seems

    http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/80763

    Still nothing from USF1 and Campos...

    Ah, good news! I'm going to enjoy that aspect of this year.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:08

    Like copy and paste on the iPod?

    That's slightly different, but yea, if you bought the upgrade just for copy/paste.

    I bought it too. 3.0 has been as good as it has been bad, sadly :(

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:08

    2) When Apple releases a new version of an operating system for the iPhone surely they can charge for it no? Or should they give you new versions for free forever for your iPod?

    *iPod

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:08

    Lotus is gonna be testing their car on Feb 17th it's seems

    I'd agree with Mike Gascoyne - considering they were the last of the 4 entrants to get the nod, they are moving VERY quickly.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:09

    I bought it too. 3.0 has been as good as it has been bad, sadly :(

    Not for me. 3.0 has tons of great stuff in it.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 13:09

    An article on ASI, for those attending or planning to: http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/80760

    McNish!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:10

    2) When Apple releases a new version of an operating system for the iPhone surely they can charge for it no? Or should they give you new versions for free forever for your iPod?

    Yes of course they can and I gladly paid for it. I think most people would have done so just for C&P though.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 13:10

    I'd agree with Mike Gascoyne - considering they were the last of the 4 entrants to get the nod, they are moving VERY quickly.

    We've seen more than enough from Lotus to suggest they're doing well with their plans for 2010. Virgin seem confident with their car too and, whilst not as much as Lotus have seemed so, they also have been quite vocal about how they're progressing.

    Yet all we know of the others is, Campos have Bruno Senna, and USF1 have pictures of them with machines.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:11

    I bought it too. 3.0 has been as good as it has been bad, sadly :(

    Not for me. 3.0 has tons of great stuff in it.

    Such as?

    My iPod Touch v2 has been buggy and slow since the upgrade and patches. I have tried a reset and a restore to no avail. All for C&P and the 30sec button :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:12

    Yet all we know of the others is, Campos have Bruno Senna, and USF1 have pictures of them with machines.

    Campos passed a crash test apparently, and USF1 have suppliers that forget to add them to their website, because supplying an F1 team isn't a high-profile deal or anything ;)

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 13:13

    I bought it too. 3.0 has been as good as it has been bad, sadly :(

    Ah, sorry to hear that. I have no idea what the differences are really, I'm stuck with my Nano.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:14

    Campos passed a crash test apparently, and USF1 have suppliers that forget to add them to their website, because supplying an F1 team isn't a high-profile deal or anything ;)

    There is a certain irony in that the last new team to get the nod (Lotus) seems to be the most ready, and that the first new team to even announce their intent to enter in 2010 (USF1) seems to be the least ready.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:14

    I bought it too. 3.0 has been as good as it has been bad, sadly :(

    Most of it is fine, but the autoplaylists (like Top 25 Most Played) are so screwed up I can't use them anymore.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:14

    Campos passed a crash test apparently, and USF1 have suppliers that forget to add them to their website, because supplying an F1 team isn't a high-profile deal or anything ;)

    There is a certain irony in that the last new team to get the nod (Lotus) seems to be the most ready, and that the first new team to even announce their intent to enter in 2010 (USF1) seems to be the least ready.

    I wonder if Lotus bought the IP to the Lola wind tunnel model that was made in June?

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:15

    Speaking of Campos, from Will B:

    Good news from @BSenna here in Brazil. Everything is on schedule for Campos to take part in all pre-season F1 test sessions.

    All sessions, eh? Sounds good. That leaves USF1 then...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:16

    I bought it too. 3.0 has been as good as it has been bad, sadly :(

    Most of it is fine, but the autoplaylists (like Top 25 Most Played) are so screwed up I can't use them anymore.

    I guess they aren't major bugs that stop me using the iPod, but they are little annoyances that weren't there before.

    Would I buy another one? Yeah probably, because an iPhone is too expensive for how little I would use it.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:16

    I wonder if Lotus bought the IP to the Lola wind tunnel model that was made in June?

    Could be, but I would think that if they did, we'd have heard of it by now...?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:16

    Speaking of Campos, from Will B:

    Good news from @BSenna here in Brazil. Everything is on schedule for Campos to take part in all pre-season F1 test sessions.

    All sessions, eh? Sounds good. That leaves USF1 then...

    Hang on... why do we take their word for it and not USF1?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:17

    I wonder if Lotus bought the IP to the Lola wind tunnel model that was made in June?

    Could be, but I would think that if they did, we'd have heard of it by now...?

    Hmm. It does seem quick, all things considered.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:17

    Would I buy another one? Yeah probably, because an iPhone is too expensive for how little I would use it.

    I'm using an iPhone now, and I am using it A LOT!

    Although that said, if I had to buy it at full price (400 GBP here) rather than the actual price I got it at (80 GBP due to loyalty to my mobile carrier plus usage over the last 2 years), I probably wouldn't have bought it.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 13:18

    Hang on... why do we take their word for it and not USF1?

    USF1 has a known bigmouth in charge and Campos has a known racer ;-)

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:19

    Hang on... why do we take their word for it and not USF1?

    1. It's Will B saying it - he's a journalist we trust, right?

    2. More importantly, USF1 has made some mention about suppliers, but have they even mentioned if they will be at the tests or not?

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:19

    USF1 has a known bigmouth in charge and Campos has a known racer ;-)

    Oh, and that too. At least Campos has already run teams in the lower formulae. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:19

    Would I buy another one? Yeah probably, because an iPhone is too expensive for how little I would use it.

    I'm using an iPhone now, and I am using it A LOT!

    Although that said, if I had to buy it at full price (400 GBP here) rather than the actual price I got it at (80 GBP due to loyalty to my mobile carrier plus usage over the last 2 years), I probably wouldn't have bought it.

    I have to pay something like £500-£600 for a six month contract. My current mobile bill + my unlimited Wi-Fi bill comes to about £40-£50 per month - in other words, it would cost me double for little extra functionality!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:20

    USF1 has a known bigmouth in charge and Campos has a known racer ;-)

    Oh, and that too. At least Campos has already run teams in the lower formulae. :)

    Fair enough.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:21

    Hmmm. I'm seeing some tweets saying that the points system might be refined to 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1. No proper source yet though.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:22

    Hmmm. I'm seeing some tweets saying that the points system might be refined to 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1. No proper source yet though.

    25-15-10-6-4-3-2-1 FTW :D

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:23

    My iPod Touch v2 has been buggy and slow since the upgrade and patches. I have tried a reset and a restore to no avail. All for C&P and the 30sec button :(

    Well of course having an iPhone means I get to use more of the stuff so my view is skewed... But... Video recording, search, tethering, share multiple images, Turn by turn, google street view, MMS, CalDev support (syncing to multiple calendars instead of just one), variable scrubbing speed for tracks (+ 30seconds back), landscape on loads more apps, trimming video, and headphone fastforward and rewind :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:24

    My iPod Touch v2 has been buggy and slow since the upgrade and patches. I have tried a reset and a restore to no avail. All for C&P and the 30sec button :(

    Well of course having an iPhone means I get to use more of the stuff so my view is skewed... But... Video recording, search, tethering, share multiple images, Turn by turn, google street view, MMS, CalDev support (syncing to multiple calendars instead of just one), variable scrubbing speed for tracks (+ 30seconds back), landscape on loads more apps, trimming video, and headphone fastforward and rewind :)

    That is an awesome list!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:25

    That is an awesome list!

    And you got it free!

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:25

    I have to pay something like £500-£600 for a six month contract. My current mobile bill + my unlimited Wi-Fi bill comes to about £40-£50 per month - in other words, it would cost me double for little extra functionality!

    I'm getting very good value right now - our mobile carrier has a special program right now, where your mobile number also gets a corresponding landline number, and you can make unlimited calls to all mobiles on the same carrier AND all landlines in Manila - and only for £5 a month! I then use my £8 consumable for Wi-Fi (which is 5 UK cents for every 15 minutes). So I end up only spending £13 on my monthly bill.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:26

    And you got it free!

    Indeed. oh and copy and paste :)

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:26

    25-15-10-6-4-3-2-1 FTW :D

    Well, I do understand that they really want to reward the top 10 finishers (to appease the midfield and the new teams). So if it's true, at least they're giving more value to a win.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:26

    And you got it free!

    Indeed. oh and copy and paste :)

    Now you're just showing off :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:27

    25-15-10-6-4-3-2-1 FTW :D

    Well, I do understand that they really want to reward the top 10 finishers (to appease the midfield and the new teams). So if it's true, at least they're giving more value to a win.

    It's not needed. Ask Steven how many points were awarded in the days of a 26-car grid ;)

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:28

    It's not needed. Ask Steven how many points were awarded in the days of a 26-car grid ;)

    True, but it's different days now. People seem to be more... financially conscious. I think FOTA wants to ensure that the teams are as sustainable as possible.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:29

    Also, since teams are WAY more reliable now, it's less likely the new teams can sneak points in...

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:30

    True, but it's different days now. People seem to be more... financially conscious. I think FOTA wants to ensure that the teams are as sustainable as possible.

    Remember what Joe said just before Christmas. The points system has nothing to do with the FIA. It's all to do with commercial concerns. (On the last asside)

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 13:31

    Remember what Joe said just before Christmas. The points system has nothing to do with the FIA. It's all to do with commercial concerns. (On the last asside)

    Yeah, that be what i was about to say, it's alllll about moooonay

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 13:31

    I usually ignore the new device discussions but I read this on 'slate' computers (which I only discovered existed yesterday) and found it made good points.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/maggieshiels/2010/01/tablets_microsoft_fails_to_wow.html

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 13:31

    Remember what Joe said just before Christmas. The points system has nothing to do with the FIA. It's all to do with commercial concerns. (On the last aside)

    Which aligns to my point on financial consciousness. :)

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 13:32

    I think the way we have to look it is....

    It's better than medals ;)

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 13:37

    I usually ignore the new device discussions but I read this on 'slate' computers (which I only discovered existed yesterday) and found it made good points.

    http://www.bbc...oft_fails_to_wow.html

    It was a spoiler presentation. Lots of people have been calling them tablet pc's for years. And there are strong rumours that Apple is about to launch theirs at the end of January. And the rumour was that it was to be called the iSlate.

    So this was Ballmer trying to rain on the parade. However. The problem with his device is that it's running Windows 7 on it which is designed to be used with a mouse and keyboard. What Apple did so well with the iPhone / iTouch was design a device specifically for touch interfaces. So expect the Apple product to actually have a much better demo because a) it's designed to work well using just touch and b) the demo wasn't rushed out on a prototype a week before Apple's just as a spoiler.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 13:41

    What is the highest resolution picture format?

    jpg, gif, png, bmp ?

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 13:44

    What is the highest resolution picture format?

    You have heard of Google, haven't you?

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 13:45

    You have heard of Google, haven't you?

    I tried it and it said tiff, but i've never heard of that before

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 13:45

    I tried it and it said tiff, but i've never heard of that before

    *tga

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 13:45

    Lotus is gonna be testing their car on Feb 17th it's seems

    http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/80763

    Still nothing from USF1 and Campos...

    I've actually read this now and I like his quote at the end. Seems to be a reasonable goal to be picking off Toro Rossos..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:45

    What is the highest resolution picture format?

    jpg, gif, png, bmp ?

    Resolution does not depend on picture format. Picture quality does. Basically JPEGs are lossy codecs - where some picture quality is lost for compression purposes. GIFs are normally animated, PNGs I know little about and BMPs are normally uncompressed.

    So that was basically a long way of saying that if you want the best quality, go for BMP ;)

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 13:51

    I tried it and it said tiff, but i've never heard of that before

    Fair enough. There's a wealth of information on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_file_formats

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 13:52

    I tried it and it said tiff, but i've never heard of that before

    When exactly did the former Top Gear presenter find time to invent a picture format anyway?

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 13:53

    It was a spoiler presentation. Lots of people have been calling them tablet pc's for years. And there are strong rumours that Apple is about to launch theirs at the end of January. And the rumour was that it was to be called the iSlate.

    Ah so they are next-gen tablets then.

    So this was Ballmer trying to rain on the parade. However. The problem with his device is that it's running Windows 7 on it which is designed to be used with a mouse and keyboard. What Apple did so well with the iPhone / iTouch was design a device specifically for touch interfaces. So expect the Apple product to actually have a much better demo because a) it's designed to work well using just touch and b) the demo wasn't rushed out on a prototype a week before Apple's just as a spoiler.

    I'm not surprised at MS trying to get some press beforehand. They ought to have planned it better. I can't understand the logic of trying to get a desktop/laptop OS into a different device. I may not be Apple's biggest fan but they did a wonderful thing in teaching not just MS but mobile manufacturers that their mobile OS's were mostly terrible.. Not that I have a great deal of experience with 'em.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:05

    So that was basically a long way of saying that if you want the best quality, go for BMP ;)

    Don't go for BMP! no no no!

    TIFF or RAW are best.

    Gifs are not normally animated, but they can be.

    If you need total fidelity TIFF or RAW.

    Then if you need to just send somebody a picture use JPEG.

    If it's a drawing use GIF or PNG which are quite similar (this stops the fuzzy edges that JPGs sometimes have).

    And never use BMP ;)

  • Janna07/01/2010 at 14:06

    Hello all, working from home today, just had lunch & caught up on the comments. Happy Christmas to all who follow the Orthodox tradition. Back to work now, comment with you later

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 14:06

    And never use BMP ;)

    Why not?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:07

    Why not?

    Only works on pc pretty much.

  • Kathi07/01/2010 at 14:07

    Why not?

    because it is evil

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 14:08

    Why not?

    Only works on pc pretty much.

    So what's the equivalent?

    I always save my images as JPEGs for the blog - seems to be for most digital cameras too...

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:08

    Only works on pc pretty much.

    And is far less efficient at storing image info. So if you have lots of colour depth etc the file will be far larger than TIFF or RAW.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 14:10

    Only works on pc pretty much.

    And is far less efficient at storing image info. So if you have lots of colour depth etc the file will be far larger than TIFF or RAW.

    But it is uncompressed?

    So for charts, how much bigger are TIFFs or RAW compared to JPEG?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:11

    I always save my images as JPEGs for the blog - seems to be for most digital cameras too...

    Basically you should think of these as standards:

    I'm a professional photographer and I want to keep the best quality version of my picture - RAW (or possibly TIFF)

    I'm posting a picture of something or someone on my blog - JPEG

    I'm posting a map or diagram - GIF or PNG (PNG by preference [more colours] but not as widely accepted as GIF).

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 14:11

    http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-news/225722/vervisch-still-waiting-for-force-india-test/

    Bless this guy, bet he's well disapointed

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 14:11
  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 14:11

    I'm a professional photographer and I want to keep the best quality version of my picture - RAW (or possibly TIFF)

    So why do cameras save the files as JPEG?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:12

    So for charts, how much bigger are TIFFs or RAW compared to JPEG?

    For your graphs you should be using GIF or PNG not anything designed for photos. That's where the little bits of detritus come from.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:12

    So why do cameras save the files as JPEG?

    Note professional in that sentence. Your SLR will save in RAW.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 14:15

    Excellent news. USF1 has belts.

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3958941&id=223461686185

    I assume this is going to be for some kind of harness to transport their toasters.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:21

    For your graphs you should be using GIF or PNG not anything designed for photos. That's where the little bits of detritus come from.

    Here's a graph in both PNG and JPEG note the slight discolouration in the JPEG format and some wonkyness on the flat parts on the top of the bars, also the sizes

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/pnggraph-png (8k)

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/jpeggraph-jpg (40.1k)

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 14:24

    http://drop.io...t/asset/jpeggraph-jpg (40.1k)

    I could have done better than that at Series 1. I hope the next series sees an improvement from myself. Mr Bean clearly blew us all away. ;)

    I've noticed that on windows 7, even Paint saved in PNG rather than JPEG now.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 14:24

    As the default option I mean, of course.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:24

    I've noticed that on windows 7, even Paint saved in PNG rather than JPEG now.

    Blocks of colour and lines are much better in PNG

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:25

    I could have done better than that at Series 1. I hope the next series sees an improvement from myself. Mr Bean clearly blew us all away. ;)

    I wondered if it was worse to be closer to Mr Bean?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 14:38

    For your graphs you should be using GIF or PNG not anything designed for photos. That's where the little bits of detritus come from.

    Here's a graph in both PNG and JPEG note the slight discolouration in the JPEG format and some wonkyness on the flat parts on the top of the bars, also the sizes

    http://drop.io...st/asset/pnggraph-png (8k)

    http://drop.io...t/asset/jpeggraph-jpg (40.1k)

    I can see what you mean. I'll use PNG from now on ;)

    What were you measuring?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 14:39

    What were you measuring?

    random numbers

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 14:40

    random numbers

    Clearly I shall not interfere when it comes to random numbers in the future! :P

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 14:42

    http://www.fac...1&id=223461686185

    Why does it say "Belts under consideration..." it's not like they're testing them! Just pick the ones that are fia compliant and get on with building your car!!!

    #rantover

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 14:43

    Here's a graph in both PNG and JPEG note the slight discolouration in the JPEG format and some wonkyness on the flat parts on the top of the bars, also the sizes

    http://drop.io...st/asset/pnggraph-png (8k)

    http://drop.io...t/asset/jpeggraph-jpg (40.1k)

    lukeh got owned ;)

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 14:45

    Why does it say "Belts under consideration..." it's not like they're testing them! Just pick the ones that are fia compliant and get on with building your car!!!

    The visible metal on the sides of the belt looks very flimsy.... The seatbelts in normal cars are very solid. That looks like it belongs in a pushchair.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 14:47

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80766

    oooh

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 14:47

    More formula 1 news from the twitter of Jonny Noble - Double diffusers may be a no go from 2011 it seems

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80766

    Chucking out all these different things today then, wonder if we'll hear anything about the points rumours that were mentioned earlier?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 14:52

    http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/80766

    oooh

    On the back of predictions that the downforce levels of cars will this season potentially go beyond what they were at the end of 2008, teams have decided to take action.

    Wait... fugly cars that are as fast as before???

    "I don't think there was a reduction in overtaking, but the changes to improve overtaking didn't help. And in fact, if you look at the numbers, it was never going to.

    "But if you look at it carefully, what the [F1 teams'] aero group set out to achieve it actually did, and if you take the diffuser away it will do exactly what it said on the tin. Unfortunately that will never help you overtake anyone."

    Aww Jeez...

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 14:52

    Why does it say "Belts under consideration..." it's not like they're testing them! Just pick the ones that are fia compliant and get on with building your car!!!

    The visible metal on the sides of the belt looks very flimsy.... The seatbelts in normal cars are very solid. That looks like it belongs in a pushchair.

    FIrst people (legitimately) complain that they're not saying or posting anything. Now people are complaining about everything they do post.

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 14:58

    FIrst people (legitimately) complain that they're not saying or posting anything. Now people are complaining about everything they do post.

    I don't know anything about these things but it really doesn't look that sturdy to me... :P

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 15:02

    I don't know anything about these things but it really doesn't look that sturdy to me... :P

    I'm just cranky. Back at work. GRRRRRR!! ;)

    I think when people normally see them they're in the car and have all that padding on them, etc., so they look a lot thicker and sturdier. But I dunno, I've never seen F1 belts outside of a car.

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 15:04

    I think when people normally see them they're in the car and have all that padding on them, etc., so they look a lot thicker and sturdier. But I dunno, I've never seen F1 belts outside of a car.

    It's the thickness of the metal at the connection though. It looks bendy.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 15:08

    It's the thickness of the metal at the connection though. It looks bendy.

    http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/resources/images/zoom/SSP25083.jpg

    thats the same harness but made up

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 15:09

    now the water's gone. this day gets better.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 15:24

    Wait... fugly cars that are as fast as before???

    Boo.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 15:26

    now the water's gone. this day gets better.

    Uh oh, no more cups of tea?

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 15:26

    There was a small thing in this games magazine I was reading earlier looking at 2010, and they mentioned the F1 games. Apparently screenshots have been shown to the games press but an embargo prevents them from being shared so sounds like we may be getting some info soon.

    I'm assuming we won't see anything until at least a few liveries have been shown off.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 15:27

    Wait... fugly cars that are as fast as before???

    Boo.

    I'm always amazed that no matter what you do, the engineers will eventually figure out a way to make the cars as fast (or faster) than before.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 15:33

    I'm always amazed that no matter what you do, the engineers will eventually figure out a way to make the cars as fast (or faster) than before.

    Do you reckon this has something to do with the fact that the engineers designing the cars often make the rules? If you say "we'll decrease this by BIG NUMBER and increase this by little number" then that sounds good ;)

    Im not saying they do it on purpose, but if you make the rules then you'll be the one who knows how to get hte most out of them

    #potentially

  • Tom G07/01/2010 at 15:33

    Afternoon all. As it turns out, Sixth Form and the High School were closed. Yippee!

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 15:34

    The audio quality on The Feeder Series is MUCH improved! Or maybe it's all just in my head :)

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 15:34

    The audio quality on The Feeder Series is MUCH improved! Or maybe it's all just in my head :)

    ooh really? you think :)

    new mic's doing the job then :D

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 15:34

    Do you reckon this has something to do with the fact that the engineers designing the cars often make the rules? If you say "we'll decrease this by BIG NUMBER and increase this by little number" then that sounds good ;)

    It could be, I wouldn't put that past race car engineers, either :)

  • Alianora La Canta07/01/2010 at 15:53

    So this was Ballmer trying to rain on the parade. However. The problem with his device is that it's running Windows 7 on it which is designed to be used with a mouse and keyboard. What Apple did so well with the iPhone / iTouch was design a device specifically for touch interfaces. So expect the Apple product to actually have a much better demo because a) it's designed to work well using just touch and b) the demo wasn't rushed out on a prototype a week before Apple's just as a spoiler. {Comment #208}

    What makes it worse is that Microsoft already have operating systems designed for touch interfaces (e.g. Windows Mobile 2003). Would it not have been easier for Microsoft to simply do a version of WM2003 that looks and feels like Windows 7?

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 15:53

    Uh oh, no more cups of tea?

    No tea and the issue of discovering the situation after using other facilities...

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 15:55

    No tea and the issue of discovering the situation after using other facilities...

    Oh. With no water, it must be time to go home, surely?

  • Tom G07/01/2010 at 15:56

    No tea

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • me07/01/2010 at 15:58

    morning.

  • Tom G07/01/2010 at 15:58

    morning.

    Someone's living in the past :)

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 15:58

    morning.

    Even you can't get away with a morning at this time of day.

  • Alianora La Canta07/01/2010 at 15:58

    http://f1.gpup...for-force-india-test/

    Bless this guy, bet he's well disapointed {Comment #300}

    I was wondering what happened to Frédéric's test (I re-read the issue of F1 Racing that said he'd earned the test). I don't buy the test ban excuse because that didn't come in until the end of 2008. There was plenty of time to squeeze in a few miles in the old car in the autumn of 2008 or something to distract people from silly rumours.

  • me07/01/2010 at 15:59

    Even you can't get away with a morning at this time of day.

    ah.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 15:59

    morning.

    Hullo. Have you seen the sun today?

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:00

    Hullo. Have you seen the sun today?

    yup. twas up before i slept, why?

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 16:05

    morning.

    Welcome back!

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 16:06

    Last night Mr C said good night to me when I went to bed and was still up when I woke up. And now I get to return the favour!

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:06

    What is the highest resolution picture format?

    You have heard of Google, haven't you?

    :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:06

    Last night Mr C said good night to me when I went to bed and was still up when I woke up. And now I get to return the favour!

    oooh, me likes :)

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 16:07

    Oh. With no water, it must be time to go home, surely?

    you'd think..

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:08

    I bought it too. 3.0 has been as good as it has been bad, sadly :(

    Ah, sorry to hear that. I have no idea what the differences are really, I'm stuck with my Nano.

    okay, hint received.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 16:08

    okay, hint received.

    Woohoo!

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 16:08

    I bought it too. 3.0 has been as good as it has been bad, sadly :(

    Ah, sorry to hear that. I have no idea what the differences are really, I'm stuck with my Nano.

    okay, hint received.

    :D

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 16:20

    you'd think..

    apparently it is back.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 16:24

    Good old FOM. From Lee Mckenzie

    To all of you who mention HD...FOM are saying 2011 :-(

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 16:25

    To all of you who mention HD...FOM are saying 2011 :-(

    To be very honest, I'm personally fine with 2011. Because even if it were in HD in 2010, we wouldn't get it in HD anyway. We'd have a better shot in 2011.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 16:31

    To be very honest, I'm personally fine with 2011. Because even if it were in HD in 2010, we wouldn't get it in HD anyway. We'd have a better shot in 2011.

    It's good news in that aspect but as far as I'm concerned it should be ready by now anyway. If a lot of other sports can have it working fine now why not F1?

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 16:35

    It's good news in that aspect but as far as I'm concerned it should be ready by now anyway. If a lot of other sports can have it working fine now why not F1?

    Bernie may have only decided to buy all the equipment now. Which would probably mean that it wouldn't be ready in time for the start of the 2010 season.

    The ghost of DigitalF1+ will always loom over the sport as long as Bernie's in charge.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 16:36

    Bernie may have only decided to buy all the equipment now. Which would probably mean that it wouldn't be ready in time for the start of the 2010 season.

    again, I can understand if he's only got it now but he should have got it ready ages ago. Bernie is so behind the times with modern media in my opinion it's not even funny.

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 16:37

    again, I can understand if he's only got it now but he should have got it ready ages ago. Bernie is so behind the times with modern media in my opinion it's not even funny.

    Again, I go back to DigitalF1+. Bernie was WAY AHEAD of everyone else there, and he got burned. So I kinda see where Bernie's coming from here.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 16:39

    To be very honest, I'm personally fine with 2011. Because even if it were in HD in 2010, we wouldn't get it in HD anyway. We'd have a better shot in 2011.

    Same here, our rinky dinky cable company is getting bought and the purchase won't be done for a few months. The new company can't start building out stuff and offering Speed in HD until after the buyout is complete.

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:40

    Again, I go back to DigitalF1+. Bernie was WAY AHEAD of everyone else there, and he got burned. So I kinda see where Bernie's coming from here.

    it's not just bernie. you're wrong to single him out. all of the teams and fota are just as utterly clueless.

    f1 minute video isn't in HD because the only HD footage we have came from a team who are no longer in the sport. and even they only did that as a one-off. everything else, including material from mercedes distributed last week is in SD format only.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 16:42

    f1 minute video isn't in HD because the only HD footage we have came from a team who are no longer in the sport. and even they only did that as a one-off. everything else, including material from mercedes distributed last week is in SD format only.

    USF1 may not have a car. Or drivers. But THEY have an HD video on youtube! ;)

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 16:43

    it's not just bernie. you're wrong to single him out. all of the teams and fota are just as utterly clueless.

    i guess it boils down to two interconnected things: ratings and ROI. if F1 went HD now, how many viewers would it gain? on the other hand, if it didn't, how many viewers would it lose? is SD/HD a primary consideration for potential viewers who are thinking if they want to watch or not?

    given all those, is it worth the investment they'd make in HD if they did it now rather than later (when it might be cheaper to do so)?

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:43

    USF1 may not have a car. Or drivers. But THEY have an HD video on youtube! ;)

    i think that might be "youtube hd", rather than true hd.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 16:44

    given all those, is it worth the investment they'd make in HD if they did it now rather than later (when it might be cheaper to do so)?

    Well indeed. I think that they'd get more viewers if they instead sorted out the live internet coverage. But of course I'd ideally prefer both :)

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 16:44

    i think that might be "youtube hd", rather than true hd.

    Better than true SD ;)

  • Journeyer07/01/2010 at 16:46

    Well indeed. I think that they'd get more viewers if they instead sorted out the live internet coverage. But of course I'd ideally prefer both :)

    Good point on the internet coverage. Right now, I'd prefer they prioritize that. But yes, both is better. :D

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:46

    Better than true SD ;)

    true. but for example, youtube calls this "HD":

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vipg8-KEegY

    but you wouldn't want to watch an f1 race that looked like that.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 16:47

    but you wouldn't want to watch an f1 race that looked like that.

    The crappiness of that video doesn't have very much to do with the resolution.

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:49

    The crappiness of that video doesn't have very much to do with the resolution.

    oi! :)

    i know, but the point is, "hd" is a variable definition. it can mean what you want it to mean, but what i'm interested in is 1080 progressive footage, made available by all teams.

    once we have that, then we can point the finger at bernie and say he is behind. right now, f1 is behind.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 16:50

    oi! :)

    errr.... uhhh...

    (I have this strange feeling my foot is now in my mouth and I don't know why)

    (looks at who uploaded the video)

    oh crap

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:51

    (looks at who uploaded the video)

    i just wanted to use an example where i knew where the source material came from.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 16:52

    my apologies.

    If it makes you feel any better, the resolution was better than what I get Speed TV in.

  • me07/01/2010 at 16:53

    my apologies.

    no need to, you're correct, the lens, lighting and cameraman all suck. however, it's just as much "youtube hd" as the usf1 clip.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 16:57

    my apologies.

    no need to, you're correct, the lens, lighting and cameraman all suck. however, it's just as much "youtube hd" as the usf1 clip.

    I think this is the universe paying me back for taking all the prime rib leftovers, leaving my wife with none.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 17:04

    my apologies.

    no need to, you're correct, the lens, lighting and cameraman all suck. however, it's just as much "youtube hd" as the usf1 clip.

    I think this is the universe paying me back for taking all the prime rib leftovers, leaving my wife with none.

    You're the guy in the family who nicks all the crackling from the pork roast, aren't you?

    Be warned that my cousin did this about 5 years ago and he is still being hassled for it :P

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 17:06

    You're the guy in the family who nicks all the crackling from the pork roast, aren't you?

    Be warned that my cousin did this about 5 years ago and he is still being hassled for it :P

    If we roasted pork, Yes, yes I would ;)

    Perhaps I should get a pork shoulder and actually roast some pork!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 17:10

    You're the guy in the family who nicks all the crackling from the pork roast, aren't you?

    Be warned that my cousin did this about 5 years ago and he is still being hassled for it :P

    If we roasted pork, Yes, yes I would ;)

    Perhaps I should get a pork shoulder and actually roast some pork!

    In Denmark, everyone roasts pork. It is the national dish! :D

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 17:13

    In Denmark, everyone roasts pork. It is the national dish! :D

    Pork is awesome. Unfortunately, for some reason, the smell of pork chops makes my wife slightly queasy. Perhaps it's too much awesomeness.

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 17:22

    In Denmark, everyone roasts pork. It is the national dish! :D

    Like it's always Danish bacon. The country has a pig obsession!

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 17:24

    Like it's always Danish bacon. The country has a pig obsession!

    I would think they'd have a fish obsession, being where they are. But I'm allergic to fish, so Pork is moar bettar.

  • lou07/01/2010 at 17:32

    Hello,

    Sadly nothing to do with f1... but i've taken a bit of a break to write a blog post and upload some pics..

    blog -

    http://photofinishblog.wordpress.com/

    and some photos -

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/loujohnson/sets/72157623064516554/

    comments etc are most welcome :) hope you're all having a lovely day!! sadly i've now got to go and do some more textiles.

    See you!! :) xx

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 17:34

    Sadly nothing to do with f1... but i've taken a bit of a break to write a blog post and upload some pics..

    Your photos are awesome! That piccie of the fox with snow on his nose melted me, it's so sweet :)

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 17:35

    Sadly nothing to do with f1... but i've taken a bit of a break to write a blog post and upload some pics..

    A link to your pictures is always welcome! Very nice!

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 17:46

    Sadly nothing to do with f1... but i've taken a bit of a break to write a blog post and upload some pics..

    Very nice.

    Man looking at all the snow in England, I hope the whole country doesn't go Donner Party on us.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 17:52

    Man looking at all the snow in England, I hope the whole country doesn't go Donner Party on us.

    The snow itself might not do it.

    If it gets in the way of tea delivery, THEN there might be a problem!

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 17:53

    If it gets in the way of tea delivery, THEN there might be a problem!

    I photoshopped yesterday how BBC News treats the snow in the UK

    The TV is basically exactly the same though so for all I know I may have simpy print screened ;)

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 17:54

    I photoshopped yesterday how BBC News treats the snow in the UK

    that's hilarious!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 17:56

    In Denmark, everyone roasts pork. It is the national dish! :D

    Like it's always Danish bacon. The country has a pig obsession!

    You're not wrong there!

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 17:57
  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 17:57

    If it gets in the way of tea delivery, THEN there might be a problem!

    I photoshopped yesterday how BBC News treats the snow in the UK

    The TV is basically exactly the same though so for all I know I may have simpy print screened ;)

    Don't blame us for the snow!

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 17:58

    We'll if that is the case, should we send these over on a special flight in with a boat load of shovels, road salt, and kitten mittens?

    I have no idea what that is but i think it would scare off the snow, the animals, the citizens of the UK and the land itself.

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 17:58

    Don't blame us for the snow!

    Don't worry, we know whose fault this is...

    #blamesteven

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 18:00

    I have no idea what that is but i think it would scare off the snow, the animals, the citizens of the UK and the land itself.

    Those are the snow blowers the railroads use to clear the tracks through mountain passes in Serria Nevada and Cascade mountain ranges. They can cut through a 9 foot snow drifts at speeds of about 20 miles per hour.

    They'll do the trick.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 18:00

    They'll do the trick.

    They would do the trick by the sounds of things! Sadly we are woefully inept at dealing with even the smallest of snowfalls here...

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 18:02

    Like it's always Danish bacon. The country has a pig obsession!

    Bacon = Meat Candy

  • Dan Brunell07/01/2010 at 18:07

    They would do the trick by the sounds of things! Sadly we are woefully inept at dealing with even the smallest of snowfalls here...

    This is a different variety. I remember seeing these operate when I would visit my grandparents in Montana.They look wicked when they are operating.

  • Alex Andronov07/01/2010 at 18:08

    I suggested a Doctor Who related name on Lou's blog :)

    http://photofinishblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/let-it-snow-let-it-snow-let-it-snow/

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 18:23

    Ahh, good to be back home, safely avoiding the rest of Thursday.

    It was a bad day for reasons described earlier, but got better because Mum has been round to put up a couple of blinds and a curtain so it should be a tiny bit better insulated here now. It is now a good day because of that and the fact I am home with a cup of tea.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 18:25

    Good old FOM. From Lee Mckenzie

    To all of you who mention HD...FOM are saying 2011 :-(

    Pfft

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 18:26

    To be very honest, I'm personally fine with 2011. Because even if it were in HD in 2010, we wouldn't get it in HD anyway. We'd have a better shot in 2011.

    If a feed exists (and I'm reasonably sure they shoot it in HD), it should be available for use to anyone who wants it. I personally can't get it in HD either but it should be available to those who can.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 18:27

    Again, I go back to DigitalF1+. Bernie was WAY AHEAD of everyone else there, and he got burned. So I kinda see where Bernie's coming from here.

    That's because they did what they always do and charged too much.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 18:29

    i guess it boils down to two interconnected things: ratings and ROI. if F1 went HD now, how many viewers would it gain? on the other hand, if it didn't, how many viewers would it lose? is SD/HD a primary consideration for potential viewers who are thinking if they want to watch or not?

    Think about the advertising tie-ins and returns though. We already know Panasonic (with Toyota) and LG (with the F1 brand) are or have been trying to sell HD TVs using F1 as a hook.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 19:00

    Bit of fun for ya - a fun game to play while watching disaster movies or war movies: http://rubbergoat.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/spot-the-stiff/

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:00

    Think about the advertising tie-ins and returns though. We already know Panasonic (with Toyota) and LG (with the F1 brand) are or have been trying to sell HD TVs using F1 as a hook.

    but now those companies are looking to sell 3D hardware, f1 is behind again.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:01

    so... no thursday thoughts today?

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 19:02

    so... no thursday thoughts today?

    Nothing that can be printed in a family friendly forum. Stupid work is forcing us into using Java for our web development with no reason given and no evaluation of other technologies.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:03

    Nothing that can be printed in a family friendly forum. Stupid work is forcing us into using Java for our web development with no reason given and no evaluation of other technologies.

    given the choice, that's what i would use.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 19:09

    given the choice, that's what i would use.

    It would be nice if they had at least let my team (the programmers) had a say. You know, the ones who are actually going to be using and maintaining it. If the people making the decision are still working here in a year I'll be shocked.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 19:10

    It would be nice if they had at least let my team (the programmers) had a say. You know, the ones who are actually going to be using and maintaining it. If the people making the decision are still working here in a year I'll be shocked.

    I shouldn't really complain, I don't do any programming here (although I could easily switch into that role), I'm the systems engineer, it just gets my goat.

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:15

    Think about the advertising tie-ins and returns though. We already know Panasonic (with Toyota) and LG (with the F1 brand) are or have been trying to sell HD TVs using F1 as a hook.

    Phillips and LG both use a lot of F1 in their tv marketing, here at least

    but now those companies are looking to sell 3D hardware, f1 is behind again.

    F1 Needs to skip HD, Go straight to 3DHD

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 19:15

    F1 Needs to skip HD, Go straight to 3DHD

    Good god no.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 19:16

    F1 Needs to skip HD, Go straight to 3DHD

    with 35 races/season too, right? :)

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 19:18

    F1 Needs to skip HD, Go straight to 3DHD

    I don;t understand this fascination with 3D TV! In the film, fair enough, but TV seems to want to be going 3D, also 2010 is being tipped as being 'the year gaming goes 3D' (Sony are set to update the PS3 firmware to support 3D gaming very soon) and allsorts...

    I just want to watch TV or play games in HD! Thats all! None of this 3D malarky!

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 19:18

    I just want to watch TV or play games in HD! Thats all! None of this 3D malarky!

    Hear, hear! Lukeh for President.

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:18

    Good god no.

    Why Not, Broadcast 3D is coming this year, For the people who dont want it, the 2d Pictures will be in HD anyway.

    The fact they are delaying a year could be a good sign...

    Imagine seeing a car passing another and being able to see the depth clearly...

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:19

    F1 Needs to skip HD, Go straight to 3DHD

    it can't 3d technology requires a high definition picture.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 19:19

    I don;t understand this fascination with 3D TV! In the film, fair enough, but TV seems to want to be going 3D, also 2010 is being tipped as being 'the year gaming goes 3D' (Sony are set to update the PS3 firmware to support 3D gaming very soon) and allsorts...

    companies want people to be buying new TV's and not keeping their HDTV's for 10 years before buying another one.

  • RG07/01/2010 at 19:20

    I don;t understand this fascination with 3D TV! In the film, fair enough, but TV seems to want to be going 3D, also 2010 is being tipped as being 'the year gaming goes 3D' (Sony are set to update the PS3 firmware to support 3D gaming very soon) and allsorts...

    Apparantly the World Cup is going in 3D. Scary thought as Messi looks as if he is going to do a sidestep on you.

    I like HD, and just HD

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:20

    I just want to watch TV or play games in HD! Thats all! None of this 3D malarky!

    Hear, hear! Lukeh for President.

    thirded.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:22

    F1 Needs to skip HD, Go straight to 3DHD

    Go straight to contact lenses outputting images directly to your retina.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8436124.stm

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:22

    I just want to watch TV or play games in HD! Thats all! None of this 3D malarky!

    Why does it matter, If you dont want to view in 3D you can just watch in 2D.

    Its a bit like if you dont want to watch pictures, you can listen to the radio?

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:22

    I only want 3D if it is a hologram

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 19:23

    Why does it matter, If you dont want to view in 3D you can just watch in 2D.

    I just don't get the point. To me all these technology companies either seems to think we all want 3D or they just wanna show off what they can do.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:24

    I just don't get the point. To me all these technology companies either seems to think we all want 3D or they just wanna show off what they can do.

    it's true.

    my favourite thing is the installation of 3d screens at football games. you can already see the players in 3d, they're right there on the pitch. who goes to a football game a puts on a pair of 3d glasses??

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:25

    I just don't get the point. To me all these technology companies either seems to think we all want 3D or they just wanna show off what they can do.

    I think they are just showing what they can do, People will inevitbly want it, maybe not everyone.

    Remember the Wii sells far more than the PS3 & 360, some people want to have the more fun basic system, whilst others are willing to pay more for the more imersive experience of the powerful consoles...

  • RG07/01/2010 at 19:26

    my favourite thing is the installation of 3d screens at football games. you can already see the players in 3d, they're right there on the pitch. who goes to a football game a puts on a pair of 3d glasses??

    Where's that been said like?

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:26

    my favourite thing is the installation of 3d screens at football games. you can already see the players in 3d, they're right there on the pitch. who goes to a football game a puts on a pair of 3d glasses??

    That would be silly, but imagine a 3D onboard going though Eau Rouge in an F1 Car...

    It would be something most people could never experience any other way

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:27

    I only want 3D if it is a hologram

    Instead of a TV taking up space you could have a fold-away or roll-up mat that you put on the floor when you want it. It'll project the images up and you can have people in your room. Or with racing it could be laid out at Scalextric scale and you'd see the whole track, or zoom in on a corner or something..

    I'm not sure how commenting and live timing would work.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:27

    my favourite thing is the installation of 3d screens at football games. you can already see the players in 3d, they're right there on the pitch. who goes to a football game a puts on a pair of 3d glasses??

    They want to do what? That's insane.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:28

    Where's that been said like?

    in america, will find a link, one sec.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:29

    I'm not sure how commenting and live timing would work.

    it'll project onto you wall.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:31

    They want to do what? That's insane.

    they are already:

    http://www.mefeedia.com/video/26638110

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:31

    in america, will find a link, one sec.

    I could see it working in the NFL, Sometimes you need a slow-mo replay to have a clue as to what just happened!

    I think 3D is perfectly Suited For F1 though...

  • RG07/01/2010 at 19:31

    in america

    I was gonna say, weren't gonna find any West Ham or Milwall fans wearing them...

    The only thing I think it would be any worth for is for replays on the big screen, ie, looking back at the moment they just witnessed more or less exactly the same.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:32

    they are already:

    http://www.mefeedia.com/video/26638110

    note that the audience boooed at the 3d bit, and "didn't appreciate the technology".

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:33

    The only thing I think it would be any worth for is for replays on the big screen, ie, looking back at the moment they just witnessed more or less exactly the same.

    you'll spend the whole match taking your glasses on and off!

  • RG07/01/2010 at 19:34

    you'll spend the whole match taking your glasses on and off!

    Might be more fun than some football matches, but it still is rather pointless..

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:34

    I think 3D is perfectly Suited For F1 though...

    i really do see why, more than any other sport?

    you're thinking about the lava lamp building... aren't ya?

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:34

    i really do see why, more than any other sport?

    *do not.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 19:34

    note that the audience boooed at the 3d bit, and "didn't appreciate the technology".

    it's like "after the fact" 3d, they took the 2d picture and did some funkyness to it to make it "3d". And I agree, I'm there to watch the game, not put some stupid glasses on.

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:36

    i really do not see why, more than any other sport?

    I just think the onboards provide a huge chance to immerse the viewer into the competitors perspective with 3D, I belive motorsport does that better than anyone else, at least at the moment.

    You also have the speed which will make it all the more compelling, seeing trees and buildings fly past you.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:38

    You also have the speed which will make it all the more compelling, seeing trees and buildings fly past you.

    more likely to make to unwell.

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:39

    more likely to make to unwell.

    Possibly, but games will be headed that way too, im sure they will find a way to develop compensations into the tech

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:41

    http://www.mefeedia.com/video/26638110

    That's a big screen! I can see why it would be great - if it weren't for the need to have the glasses. Imagine being in a 100k stadium. Squashed in, you'd lose those glasses pretty easily.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 19:42

    Possibly, but games will be headed that way too, im sure they will find a way to develop compensations into the tech

    It happens to some people with games now. Bare with me for my explanation, there's probably something better on the web that explains it but there's something in the presentation of Half Life 2 is different to a lot of games, and can cause motion sickness if you get affected by that kind of thing

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:43

    I am testing the F1M video embed. Is my sidebar too small?

    http://toomuchracing.blogspot.com/

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:45

    I am testing the F1M video embed. Is my sidebar too small?

    http://toomuchracing.blogspot.com/

    i think the youtube grey border is too big.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 19:47

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_5eiYn0D0&feature=player_embedded#

    A nice 3d :) video of the flight that had to ditch in the Hudson River a year ago.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 19:50

    2 things....

    1) http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/img-0690-jpg allll eaten :D

    2) http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/img-0719-jpg WOOOO

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:50

    i think the youtube grey border is too big.

    I agree

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:54

    I am testing the F1M video embed. Is my sidebar too small?

    http://toomuchracing.blogspot.com/

    Ooh i had a lok at that earlier, Video F1 Miniute is very cool! :D

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:55

    I agree

    have removed from the sidebar for now.

    off to have another session of C&C war.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:56

    i think the youtube grey border is too big.

    I agree

    we'll sort out a player asap, just pulling together yesterdays in time for christine to put out another :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:56

    Ooh i had a lok at that earlier, Video F1 Miniute is very cool! :D

    yay :)

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:57

    yay :)

    You will be selling it onto the tv networks next! :D

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 19:57

    we'll sort out a player asap, just pulling together yesterdays in time for christine to put out another :)

    No hurry, will add when ready.

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 19:57

    You will be selling it onto the tv networks next! :D

    STOP COMMENTING!!!

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:57

    You will be selling it onto the tv networks next! :D

    we might have too, it's a bit of a full time job.

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:57

    STOP COMMENTING!!!

    huh?

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:58

    STOP COMMENTING!!!

    oops... totaly busted!

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 19:58

    STOP COMMENTING!!!

    huh?

    whats he done now?

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:58

    we might have too, it's a bit of a full time job.

    Its certainly high enough quality!

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 19:59

    huh?

    I was supposed to be paying attention to her on skype and got caught ;)

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:59

    Its certainly high enough quality!

    cheers. christine is in hd, we just need the f1 stuff in hd too :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 19:59

    I was supposed to be paying attention to her on skype and got caught ;)

    multitask fail?

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 19:59

    I was supposed to be paying attention to her on skype and got caught ;)

    oh you so totally got busted. and we saw it!

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 19:59

    I was supposed to be paying attention to her on skype and got caught ;)

    your a man, you can multi-...oh wait. ;)

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 20:00

    Evening all

  • me07/01/2010 at 20:00

    Evening all

    howdy.

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 20:00

    I was supposed to be paying attention to her on skype and got caught ;)

    OOPS

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:00

    cheers. christine is in hd, we just need the f1 stuff in hd too :)

    hehe, One Day...

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 20:00

    multitask fail?

    he just types too loudly...

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:00

    I was supposed to be paying attention to her on skype and got caught ;)

    Sorry Nick

  • me07/01/2010 at 20:01
  • me07/01/2010 at 20:01

    multitask fail?

    he just types too loudly...

    *puts christine's hat back in box*

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 20:02

    he just types too loudly...

    :D

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:02

    Sorry Nick

    hehehe :D

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 20:04

    *puts christine's hat back in box*

    Last time I wore a hat you called me a flump. That's not happening again soon.

  • me07/01/2010 at 20:05

    Last time I wore a hat you called me a flump. That's not happening again soon.

    oops

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:05

    Last time I wore a hat you called me a flump. That's not happening again soon.

    I'm he meant the marshmellow sweet...

    ...ah who am I kidding.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:05

    I'm sure, not I'm he. That's just silly.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 20:07

    oops

    Chrome no likie the sidepodcast wiki page. Gives me a "Warning: Visiting this site may harm your computer!" because it references some stuff from statcntr.com

  • me07/01/2010 at 20:08

    Chrome no likie the sidepodcast wiki page. Gives me a "Warning: Visiting this site may harm your computer!" because it references some stuff from statcntr.com

    oooh. wiki fail :(

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 20:12

    oooh. wiki fail :(

    The wiki has been failing quite a lot but I am not sure what to do about it.

  • me07/01/2010 at 20:13

    The wiki has been failing quite a lot but I am not sure what to do about it.

    are there any other wiki options? don't fancy rewriting that right now.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 20:13

    The wiki has been failing quite a lot but I am not sure what to do about it.

    are there any other wiki options? don't fancy rewriting that right now.

    I run a mediawiki at work.

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 20:14

    are there any other wiki options? don't fancy rewriting that right now.

    It's the easy-peasiest to use, that's the thing. All the others have special languages.

  • me07/01/2010 at 20:14

    I run a mediawiki at work.

    self hosted though? don't really want to pay any more hosting fees if we can help it either.

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 20:15

    Nick just put a straw in the wrong end of a Capri Sun.... I need some moral support!

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:16

    Nick just put a straw in the wrong end of a Capri Sun.... I need some moral support!

    #Rebel

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 20:16

    Nick just put a straw in the wrong end of a Capri Sun.... I need some moral support!

    Theres a hole? How can you put the straw in the wrong end?!

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 20:16

    Nick just put a straw in the wrong end of a Capri Sun.... I need some moral support!

    .....

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 20:16

    Nick just put a straw in the wrong end of a Capri Sun.... I need some moral support!

    Oh dear

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 20:17

    Theres a hole? How can you put the straw in the wrong end?!

    He turned the carton upside down and made a hole in the bottom.... Scary times.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 20:17

    He turned the carton upside down and made a hole in the bottom.... Scary times.

    I have nothing to say

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 20:17

    He turned the carton upside down and made a hole in the bottom.... Scary times.

    Are we sure he's from this planet? ;)

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:17

    Nick just put a straw in the wrong end of a Capri Sun.... I need some moral support!

    You deserve it this time Nick

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 20:17

    He turned the carton upside down and made a hole in the bottom.... Scary times.

    That seems like a bad plan

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:18

    You deserve it this time Nick

    hehe, its not as bad as you all think...

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:20

    Nick just put a straw in the wrong end of a Capri Sun.... I need some moral support!

    I'll give you moral support once I understand what you're talking about :) google here we come...

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 20:21

    I'll give you moral support once I understand what you're talking about :) google here we come...

    It's a soft drink in a foil pack container with a pre-cut hole to push the straw in

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:22

    It's a soft drink in a foil pack container with a pre-cut hole to push the straw in

    thanks Steven. I looked it up. Link. Groovy soundtrack to the website. I remember we had a similar named thing in Australia a long time ago.

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:23

    I'll give you moral support once I understand what you're talking about :) google here we come...

    It's a soft drink in a foil pack container with a pre-cut hole to push the straw in

    So I'm guessing there's no big F1 story if we're discussing this ? :)

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 20:23

    Look at this. It's WRONG

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 20:24

    Look at this. It's WRONG

    thats quite amusing actually

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:24

    thanks Steven. I looked it up. Link. Groovy soundtrack to the website. I remember we had a similar named thing in Australia a long time ago.

    On that video we see a male stabbing the bottom of the capri sun with a straw

    Is someone filming Nick?

  • RG07/01/2010 at 20:24

    Look at this. It's WRONG

    Its... innovative

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:25

    thats quite amusing actually

    Ha!

    I knew it was awesome!

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 20:26

    Is someone filming Nick?

    Alison? via skype

    :D

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 20:26

    Is someone filming Nick?

    Alison is on skype with him

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:26

    Alison? via skype

    Clearly he is working for Capri Sun and this was all a big marketing ploy to get 10 more people onto their website

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:26

    On that video we see a male stabbing the bottom of the capri sun with a straw

    hehe awesome!

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:28

    On that video we see a male stabbing the bottom of the capri sun with a straw

    oops. i was going to mention that :) i really love this soundtrack....cool background music

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:28

    Clearly he is working for Capri Sun and this was all a big marketing ploy to get 10 more people onto their website

    oooh... if they paid me in capri sun, that would be awesome!

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:29

    oooh... if they paid me in capri sun, that would be awesome!

    Just wait till they find out you're not making use of their designated punch hole!

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:29

    Just wait till they find out you're not making use of their designated punch hole!

    they could employ cost cutting - why make the hole if people create their own

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:30

    oooh... if they paid me in capri sun, that would be awesome!

    although to me it will always be Capri-Sonne

  • Alison07/01/2010 at 20:30

    they could employ cost cutting - why make the hole if people create their own

    Who would be daft enough to make the hole in the bottom though.... Then it can't stand unaided!

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 20:31

    Who would be daft enough to make the hole in the bottom though.... ....!

    You realize you already know the answer to this question... ;)

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:32

    Who would be daft enough to make the hole in the bottom though.... ....!

    You realize you already know the answer to this question... ;)

    I think that's why the question was asked!

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 20:34

    My mum bought me a creme egg!!

    Question is; is it last year's or this years...

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:38

    My mum bought me a creme egg!!

    Now that is

    #wrong!

    Its way to early!

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 20:38

    Its way to early!

    She wanted to buy me sweeeets

  • Nick in Dubai07/01/2010 at 20:40

    She wanted to buy me sweeeets

    But i only had the last of my Christmas chocs today!

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:40

    Its way to early!

    so we are talking about easter things? i thought maybe i was missing something. that's crazy. no offence to Jon's mum.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:41

    Its way to early!

    We have easter eggs in work already :(

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 20:41

    But i only had the last of my Christmas chocs today!

    I didn't get many, am not a chocolate (on its own) fan

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:41

    We have easter eggs in work already :(

    really?

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 20:41

    so we are talking about easter things? i thought maybe i was missing something. that's crazy. no offence to Jon's mum.

    Boo ;) I agree, but they are uber nice.

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:42

    really?

    Not for sale yet but we have lots ready to go on sale next month.

  • me07/01/2010 at 20:44

    so we are talking about easter things? i thought maybe i was missing something. that's crazy. no offence to Jon's mum.

    have we plugged f1 minute video to you yet?

    http://www.f1minute.com/category/video/

    *wedotalkf1honest

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:48

    have we plugged f1 minute video to you yet?

    unless Christine is driving in her car while doing it, I'm not so sure I'm interested :)

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:50

    Boo ;) I agree, but they are uber nice.

    I agree. but first week of January?!

    Here in the USA, I arrived for Halloween, then the shelves changed over to Thanksgiving and the day after that, out comes Christmas. I had a checkout person talking about the next holiday coming up in 6 weeks - valentine's day. this country thrives on capitalism!

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:50

    have we plugged f1 minute video to you yet?

    gone in 60 seconds. love it!

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 20:53

    Hi peoples.

    Long day. Glad to be home. :)

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:54

    Hi peoples.

    evening

  • me07/01/2010 at 20:54

    gone in 60 seconds. love it!

    ;)

  • RG07/01/2010 at 20:55

    Hi peoples.

    Hey mate.

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 20:56

    Hey mate.

    Hi RG! :)

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 20:57

    evening

    Hi Lukeh. You're my 2nd favourite Welshman at the moment. 1st is a guy who calls us quite regularly to sell us something and we have a good relationship with him at work. He regularly takes the biscuit out of us and vice versa! Great guy! :D

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 20:58

    Hi Lukeh. You're my 2nd favourite Welshman at the moment. 1st is a guy who calls us quite regularly to sell us something and we have a good relationship with him at work. He regularly takes the biscuit out of us and vice versa! Great guy! :D

    I will take second. This morning I was ranked lower than Mr Bean so that's a vast improvement.

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 20:58

    On a plus side, in general, Sidepodcast is like a 4th home to me. I'm not naming my 2nd and 3rd homes, but Sidepodcast will move up the list.

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 20:58

    I will take second. This morning I was ranked lower than Mr Bean so that's a vast improvement.

    I'm both shocked and fascinated that someone would rank you lower than the great Mr Bean!

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 20:58

    Long day. Glad to be home. :)

    Unlucky you / Lucky you. Nice to "meet" you :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:00

    So the James May Lego house was on Danish TV tonight... in Danish!

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:04

    So the James May Lego house was on Danish TV tonight... in Danish!

    Is this from series 14 of top gear? I just started catching up on them this week - haven't got to that one yet.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:08

    So the James May Lego house was on Danish TV tonight... in Danish!

    Is this from series 14 of top gear? I just started catching up on them this week - haven't got to that one yet.

    It's Top Gear without the cars ... like every other program they do basically ;)

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 21:09

    Is this from series 14 of top gear? I just started catching up on them this week - haven't got to that one yet.

    James May's Toy Stories, Episode 5 I think.

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:10

    James May's Toy Stories, Episode 5 I think.

    aah thanks guys. I knew about the wine show but didn't know they'd spun off into more shows.

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:10

    The word in Sweden is that the new owners of the Renault F1 team are in the process of trying to buy the entire Saab Automobile firm from General Motors

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/genii-capital-bidding-to-buy-saab/

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:13

    Howdy

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:14

    The word in Sweden is that the new owners of the Renault F1 team are in the process of trying to buy the entire Saab Automobile firm from General Motors

    http://joesawa...-bidding-to-buy-saab/

    Gah. Bloody Swedes again!

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:15

    Gah. Bloody Swedes again!

    you don't like saab?

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:15

    Howdy

    hey ya.

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:15

    The word in Sweden is that the new owners of the Renault F1 team are in the process of trying to buy the entire Saab Automobile firm from General Motors

    They must be about the fifth or sixth company that has tried to buy SAAB in the last few weeks. I can't see any connection between SAAB and F1. All their heritage is in rallying.

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:16

    Howdy

    Hi Jackie

  • RG07/01/2010 at 21:16

    Howdy

    Hola

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:16

    Gah. Bloody Swedes again!

    you don't like saab?

    I'm just kidding. There exists a friendly rivalry between Sweden and Denmark, which amuses me constantly!

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:16

    Hi Jackie

    Hi Steven, loved your latest article :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:17

    Just in case you missed it earlier, I have blogged about a fun game you can play whilst watching disaster movies - the term was coined by Punt & Dennis and my wife, my colleague and I have developed it a bit ;)

    http://rubbergoat.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/spot-the-stiff/

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:17

    Hi Jackie!

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:18

    Hi Gavin and RG

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:18

    Hi Steven, loved your latest article :)

    I am sure you will like the follow up but that won't be for a week or two and I will be amazed if anyone here has ever heard of him.

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:18

    I am sure you will like the follow up but that won't be for a week or two and I will be amazed if anyone here has ever heard of him.

    Who?

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:19

    Who?

    I am saying nothing until the article appears.

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:20

    I am saying nothing until the article appears.

    :( can we play a guessing game?

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:20

    :( can we play a guessing game?

    If you like

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:20

    A driver from the 70's?

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:21

    A driver from the 70's?

    Yes

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:21

    Did he score more than 10 points in his F1 career?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:22

    A driver from the 70's?

    Yes

    I might have if he was in that game I mentioned ;)

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:22

    I'm just kidding. There exists a friendly rivalry between Sweden and Denmark, which amuses me constantly!

    I think Sweden has a rivalry with everyone "up there" right? I'm thinking Finland. I was told years ago by a swedish person about how companies exist just to help business from two countries work out deals because Finnish folk are generally more relaxed and indirect about things whereas the Swedes can be point blank direct which can come off rude to the Finnish. I'm not generalising much :)

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:22

    Did he score more than 10 points in his F1 career?

    No

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:22

    Did he score more than 10 points in his F1 career?

    In other words, should Jackie try and look him up on F1Rejects? ;)

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:23

    In other words, should Jackie try and look him up on F1Rejects? ;)

    No I don't cheat

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:23

    I think Sweden has a rivalry with everyone "up there" right? I'm thinking Finland. I was told years ago by a swedish person about how companies exist just to help business from two countries work out deals because Finnish folk are generally more relaxed and indirect about things whereas the Swedes can be point blank direct which can come off rude to the Finnish. I'm not generalising much :)

    Sweden used to rule Finland so it is a Scotland / England situation.

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:23

    In other words, should Jackie try and look him up on F1Rejects? ;)

    No

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:23

    I'm just kidding. There exists a friendly rivalry between Sweden and Denmark, which amuses me constantly!

    I think Sweden has a rivalry with everyone "up there" right? I'm thinking Finland. I was told years ago by a swedish person about how companies exist just to help business from two countries work out deals because Finnish folk are generally more relaxed and indirect about things whereas the Swedes can be point blank direct which can come off rude to the Finnish. I'm not generalising much :)

    I have no ides - I just know the Swedes and the Danes at work take the p*** out of each other and all the Scandinavian countries are very different (down to their tongues)...

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:23

    In other words, should Jackie try and look him up on F1Rejects? ;)

    No

    Because he won't be there

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:24

    In other words, should Jackie try and look him up on F1Rejects? ;)

    No I don't cheat

    Was just kidding :D

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:24

    Because he won't be there

    this is like uber-i-spy!

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:24

    Sweden used to rule Finland so it is a Scotland / England situation.

    except without the fall out when someone refers to a scot as "British".

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:24

    I will find it interesting as I don't have much knowledge of 70' 80's stuff

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:24

    this is like uber-i-spy!

    :D

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:25

    except without the fall out when someone refers to a scot as "British".

    grrrrrrr

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:25

    Sweden used to rule Finland so it is a Scotland / England situation.

    except without the fall out when someone refers to a scot as "British".

    Oooh don't get Swedes and Danes mixed up either! Bad Scott!

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:25

    except without the fall out when someone refers to a scot as "British".

    A Scot :)

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:25

    Oooh don't get Swedes and Danes mixed up either! Bad Scott!

    And don't call the Finns Scandinavian either.

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 21:26

    except without the fall out when someone refers to a scot as "British".

    I just refer to everyone as "foreign". That way I can offend everybody at once. Very efficient! ;)

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:26

    A Scot :)

    i prefer two T's :)

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:27

    i prefer two T's :)

    I prefer Scot capitalised :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:27

    Oooh don't get Swedes and Danes mixed up either! Bad Scott!

    And don't call the Finns Scandinavian either.

    Yeah I know that one. But it's a common mistake by most people so I am carrying it through.

    I have asked some Danes why Finland and Iceland aren't Scandinavian and the best answer I can get is "they just aren't - it's a geographical boundary"

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 21:27

    I just refer to everyone as "foreign". That way I can offend everybody at once. Very efficient! ;)

    Especially if you're from Rockall.

    *cough*cough*

    Is this thing on?

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:28

    except without the fall out when someone refers to a scot as "British".

    grrrrrrr

    I understand the situation only because you see it here sometimes when someone uses "British" and "English" interchangeably.

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:28

    I prefer Scot capitalised :P

    me two :)

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:28

    Is this thing on?

    I'm here all week. Try the fish.

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 21:28

    I have asked some Danes why Finland and Iceland aren't Scandinavian and the best answer I can get is "they just aren't - it's a geographical boundary"

    I was under the impression Scandinavia was the whole Denmark/Norway/Sweden/possibly-Finland. Am I wrong in that understanding?

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:28

    I just refer to everyone as "foreign". That way I can offend everybody at once. Very efficient! ;)

    Especially if you're from Rockall.

    *cough*cough*

    Is this thing on?

    Rockall is Scottish

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:28

    I'm here all week. Try the fish.

    LOL

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 21:29

    I understand the situation only because you see it here sometimes when someone uses "British" and "English" interchangeably.

    Usually it's British while they're winning and Scottish as soon as they lose/crash/fall over.

  • RG07/01/2010 at 21:29

    Rockall is Scottish

    I thought it was Sidepodlandish

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:29

    I have asked some Danes why Finland and Iceland aren't Scandinavian and the best answer I can get is "they just aren't - it's a geographical boundary"

    I was under the impression Scandinavia was the whole Denmark/Norway/Sweden/possibly-Finland. Am I wrong in that understanding?

    Denmark-Norway-Sweden apparently.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:29

    I have asked some Danes why Finland and Iceland aren't Scandinavian and the best answer I can get is "they just aren't - it's a geographical boundary"

    I was under the impression Scandinavia was the whole Denmark/Norway/Sweden/possibly-Finland. Am I wrong in that understanding?

    Denmark-Norway-Sweden apparently

  • saltire07/01/2010 at 21:29

    Usually it's British while they're winning and Scottish as soon as they lose/crash/fall over.

    That's very true

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:30

    I was under the impression Scandinavia was the whole Denmark/Norway/Sweden/possibly-Finland. Am I wrong in that understanding?

    It's Denmark, Sweden and Norway. If you ever visit Finland on business you get a great reception apparently if you say that you deal with Scandinavia and Finland.

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:30

    Usually it's British while they're winning and Scottish as soon as they lose/crash/fall over.

    :) it's like how i refer to my favourite sporting teams - " we won", "they lost". i'm very casual about my support these days....

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 21:30

    Mr C, when you use a Flickr pic, do you ask them first, or do you just use it and then link back?

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 21:30

    Rockall is Scottish

    Claimed as part of the UK, I would imagine rather than by Scotland alone.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:31

    Rockall is Scottish

    Claimed as part of the UK, I would imagine rather than by Scotland alone.

    Denmark also has a claim on Rockall too ;)

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 21:31

    Mr C, when you use a Flickr pic, do you ask them first, or do you just use it and then link back?

    You need to check what the photo is released as.

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:31

    Denmark also has a claim on Rockall too ;)

    Yeah right

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:31

    Mr C, when you use a Flickr pic, do you ask them first, or do you just use it and then link back?

    depends if the pic is licenced under creative commons. if so you can use it without asking, if it's all rights reserved you have to ask permission.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 21:32

    depends if the pic is licenced under creative commons. if so you can use it without asking, if it's all rights reserved you have to ask permission.

    thank you :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:33

    Denmark also has a claim on Rockall too ;)

    does anyone from denmark podcast from rockall?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:34

    Denmark also has a claim on Rockall too ;)

    Yeah right

    Apparently because of the Faroe Islands

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 21:34

    depends if the pic is licenced under creative commons. if so you can use it without asking, if it's all rights reserved you have to ask permission.

    That's what I meant. Squidoo has a great article with explanations of what each of the licences means and what you are permitted to do with released images: http://www.squidoo.com/cc-flickr

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:34

    Denmark also has a claim on Rockall too ;)

    does anyone from denmark podcast from rockall?

    How the heck would I know? I have an intense dislike of Danish media!

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:34

    especially for #rg: http://www.f1minute.com/category/f1-big-picture/

  • RG07/01/2010 at 21:36

    especially for #rg: http://www.f1m...egory/f1-big-picture/

    Sauber :) Two in a row, I love you lot.

    Kobayashi :(

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 21:37

    especially for #rg: http://www.f1m...egory/f1-big-picture/

    Ah yes, their revolutionary invisible nose cone.

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:38

    especially for #rg: http://www.f1m...egory/f1-big-picture/

    Ah yes, their revolutionary invisible nose cone.

    If you build it, you will come. last. #sorryrg

  • RG07/01/2010 at 21:38

    If you build it, you will come. last. #sorryrg

    *Crosses off christmas card list...

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 21:39

    Ah yes, their revolutionary invisible nose cone.

    See. I said cloaking devices could be made now

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:39

    How the heck would I know? I have an intense dislike of Danish media!

    I'll give an example - there is a well-known story about a robbery gang from the 80's who were known to the secret police (The PET) but didn't tell the police. They were only caught after they shot a copper dead and they decided to share info.

    This was 20 years ago and the secrecy part and other unanswered questions still bug people. The whole saga is very interesting because Danes are quite a mild lot - so the idea of all of this is very foreign.

    Anyway, they interviewed a politician who was a policeman on duty the night of the shooting. The journalist asked:

    "Could you have been the one that was shot that night?" Followed by "If the PET had told the police about the gang earlier and therefore caught the robbers before the shooting, do you think the dead policeman would still be alive today?"

    Honestly!

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:39

    If you build it, you will come. last. #sorryrg

    :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 21:40

    See. I said cloaking devices could be made now

    heh!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:40

    Ah yes, their revolutionary invisible nose cone.

    After last year's big nose they decided to go minimalist :D

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:40

    If you build it, you will come. last. #sorryrg

    *Crosses off christmas card list...

    i guess the one for 2009 got lost in the mail ? ;)

    i thought you could say what you want if you use a hash tag of sorry. Kind of like, you can start a sentence "With all due respect" and finish it bitching about someone.

  • RG07/01/2010 at 21:41

    i guess the one for 2009 got lost in the mail ? ;)

    I sent it to Italy and then I remembered you had moved.

    i thought you could say what you want if you use a hash tag of sorry. Kind of like, you can start a sentence "With all due respect" and finish it bitching about someone.

    Not with me, I read everything :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:41

    How the heck would I know? I have an intense dislike of Danish media!

    Got another one. During COP15 Arnie came to town. There was a media scrum to interview him outside his hotel. So the little reporter from the Danish TV channel that's like BBC shoved her way to the front and asked this really hard-hitting question:

    "Mr. Schwarzenegger, what do you think of the weather in Copenhagen?"

    You could just see the rolling of the eyes...

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:42

    Honestly!

    two things there - cops tend to look out for each other.

    -politicians never answer the question asked. they just give an answer they want to give. I saw one journo in Australia, on a live tv interview, repeatedly ask the same question over and over again until he got an answer to the question he was asking. it was fantastic journalism that really showed how the game is (normally) played. journalist 1 politician 0 (on that night).

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:44

    I sent it to Italy and then I remembered you had moved.

    :) what a coincidence, there used to be a Scott in italy that hung around this website. maybe he got the card?

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 21:46

    See. I said cloaking devices could be made now

    I love the way there's a big gap and then the wheels carefully placed where they will be in relation to the car. I'm guessing that's so the driver can get an idea of what he'll be able to see on the actual car.

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:46

    especially for #rg: http://www.f1m...egory/f1-big-picture/

    do you think USF1 is looking at that thinking "at least we've built a nose?"

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)07/01/2010 at 21:50

    G'night guys :)

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 21:51

    G'night guys :)

    Night Gavin!

  • RG07/01/2010 at 21:51

    G'night guys :)

    See ya mate.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 21:51

    G'night guys :)

    night

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 21:51

    G'night guys :)

    Night!

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 21:53

    do you think USF1 is looking at that thinking "at least we've built a nose?"

    More likely - "see, they've left a space for the toaster"

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 21:57

    I love the way there's a big gap and then the wheels carefully placed where they will be in relation to the car. I'm guessing that's so the driver can get an idea of what he'll be able to see on the actual car.

    that's my guess as well, Sarah Fisher's seat fitting had the same thing: http://twitpic.com/wxhlp

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 21:59

    This is awesome: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/8447023.stm

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 22:00

    I love the way there's a big gap and then the wheels carefully placed where they will be in relation to the car. I'm guessing that's so the driver can get an idea of what he'll be able to see on the actual car.

    That is exactly why they are there and the string that the mechanic has above the driver's head is from the top of the roll hoop in the dash to the roll hoop behind his head. For obvious reasons his head has to stay below that line. They will be trying to seat him as high as possible to give him the best view while keeping him below the safety line.

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 22:00

    do you think USF1 is looking at that thinking "at least we've built a nose?"

    :D

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 22:00

    G'night guys :)

    Good night

  • Christine07/01/2010 at 22:00

    This is awesome: http://news.bb.../in_depth/8447023.stm

    I say awesome, I mean cold, obviously.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 22:00
  • RG07/01/2010 at 22:01

    This is awesome: http://news.bb.../in_depth/8447023.stm

    Wow.

    How did (that rather small part) of Ireland get away with it?

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 22:01

    This is awesome: http://news.bb.../in_depth/8447023.stm

    There's a bigger version here: http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2010007-0107/GreatBritain.A2010007.1150.250m.jpg

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 22:01

    More likely - "see, they've left a space for the toaster"

    ?huh?

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 22:02

    This is awesome: http://news.bb.../in_depth/8447023.stm

    I saw that on TV earlier.

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 22:06

    ?huh?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjjgS8AATd4

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 22:09
  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 22:10

    Strange....

    Possibly inspired by this: http://www.firewirestudios.co.uk/project_images/gp_toaster.html

  • Lukeh07/01/2010 at 22:11

    Heading off now, see you all tomorrow evening. Night everyone.

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 22:11

    Possibly inspired by this: http://www.fir...mages/gp_toaster.html

    that's great!

  • RG07/01/2010 at 22:11

    Heading off now, see you all tomorrow evening. Night everyone.

    See ya mate.

  • The Boston Red Scott07/01/2010 at 22:11

    Heading off now, see you all tomorrow evening. Night everyone.

    me too. farewell Lukeh and farewell all.

  • RG07/01/2010 at 22:12

    me too. farewell Lukeh and farewell all.

    Byeee.

  • Steven Roy07/01/2010 at 22:12

    Night Lukeh

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 22:26

    "The arctic conditions...."

    ARCTIC?!?!

    have you ever been to the arctic circle, it's quite considerably colder than this!!!

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 22:30

    *drum roll*

    5 Events That You Have to Attend in 2010

    http://www.feederseries.net/?p=279

  • RG07/01/2010 at 22:34

    5 Events That You Have to Attend in 2010

    http://www.feederseries.net/?p=279

    Have commented :)

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 22:51

    Have commented :)

    Thank ye :) Annoyingly, it's got me on a search on how to update my Avatar....because i cant find it on wp.org

  • jpancoast07/01/2010 at 22:51

    Thank ye :) Annoyingly, it's got me on a search on how to update my Avatar....because i cant find it on wp.org

    is your blog hostted on wordpress.com, or self hosted?

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 22:52

    is your blog hostted on wordpress.com, or self hosted?

    self

  • RG07/01/2010 at 22:52

    Thank ye :) Annoyingly, it's got me on a search on how to update my Avatar....because i cant find it on wp.org

    gravatar.com I believe. It automatically does it for wordpress if you use the same e-mail, I do believe.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 22:52

    gravatar.com I believe. It automatically does it for wordpress if you use the same e-mail, I do believe.

    ooh thank you :)

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 22:54

    gravatar.com I believe. It automatically does it for wordpress if you use the same e-mail, I do believe.

    your a star

  • RG07/01/2010 at 23:04

    your a star

    I know.

    And thats my cue to go. I may be here tomorrow morning, I might not be. We'll see. See ya later and losta love.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:05

    I know.

    and really really really moddest

    And thats my cue to go. I may be here tomorrow morning, I might not be. We'll see. See ya later and losta love.

    adios mr RG of North-shire

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:06

    Having bed thoughts, so ta-ra chaps and chapesses, will speak with you lovely folk tomorrow morning if my phone doesn't break and/or run out of credit on the train there! Byeeeeeeeeeeeee....................

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:06

    Having bed thoughts, so ta-ra chaps and chapesses, will speak with you lovely folk tomorrow morning if my phone doesn't break and/or run out of credit on the train there! Byeeeeeeeeeeeee....................

    adios!

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:09

    If you subscribe, check my Twitter feed. It's an amusing picture to say the least.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:10

    If you subscribe, check my Twitter feed. It's an amusing picture to say the least.

    linkety-link-link?

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:11

    linkety-link-link?

    http://twitpic.com/x47a4

    Not sure if it'll display, I protect my Twitter updates.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:11

    Not sure if it'll display, I protect my Twitter updates.

    Are you using Chrome by any chance?

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:14

    Are you using Chrome by any chance?

    That was the caption in the Twitter update. ;)

    "sidepodcast's Real-time Doohickey (copyright Mr C 2010) has a slight bug in Chrome....."

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:14

    Hang on, lemme find the drop.io/sidepodcast.....

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:15

    Hang on, lemme find the drop.io/sidepodcast.....

    nonon, i saw the pic. are you using chrome?

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:17

    Jon, I am using Chrome, as evidenced by my earlier comment:

    "sidepodcast's Real-time Doohickey (copyright Mr C 2010) has a slight bug in Chrome....."

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:18

    "sidepodcast's Real-time Doohickey (copyright Mr C 2010) has a slight bug in Chrome....."

    oooh sorry, didnt read all of it.

    yeah, chrome does have doohickey issues

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:19

    I figured. ;)

    Piccy for those not Twitter-esque.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sidepodcast-doohickey-jpg

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 23:19

    Piccy for those not Twitter-esque.

    You don't have to be on Twitter to view a Twitpic.

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:20

    And to apologise for the crap picture quality and explain the bug:

    all the buttons are labelled "Reply", even the 3 iddy bitty ones just to the right of the comments box.

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:21

    You don't have to be on Twitter to view a Twitpic.

    You don't?

    Sucks for privacy that one, if you have your status updates protected. :-/

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:21

    all the buttons are labelled "Reply", even the 3 iddy bitty ones just to the right of the comments box.

    Give it a refresh and it should sort itself

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 23:22

    You don't?

    Sucks for privacy that one, if you have your status updates protected. :-/

    Only sucks if you post it out of your twitter stream in a public place?

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:22

    Give it a refresh and it should sort itself

    I did, and it worked.

    Is this because Sidepodcast is used to being rendered in broken browsers and Chrome's the only one that actually renders it as the specifications intended?

  • Alianora La Canta07/01/2010 at 23:23

    It's the easy-peasiest to use, that's the thing. All the others have special languages. {}

    My wiki provider (Mindtouch Deki Wiki) is free, hosted by them and doesn't use any special languages unless you really, really want to... ...but given that it often takes two attempts to get the pages to show any content, you probably don't want to use that as an alternative service unless you really, really have to...

    There's a page on wiki options at Wikimedia, which may help you out a bit if you're looking for an alternative supplier.

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:23

    Only sucks if you post it out of your twitter stream in a public place?

    not necessarily, i could easily find your twitpic url, its just twitpic.com/your username, and i know that. so theoretically you can

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:24

    not necessarily, i could easily find your twitpic url, its just twitpic.com/your username, and i know that. so theoretically you can

    That actually doesn't work. ;)

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 23:25

    You don't?

    Sucks for privacy that one, if you have your status updates protected. :-/

    Twitter isn't designed with privacy in mind - just like email, never post enything you wouldn't want to be seen on a postcard sent through the mail.

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:25

    not necessarily, i could easily find your twitpic url, its just twitpic.com/your username, and i know that. so theoretically you can

    Although if you do it properly, it does, and that's a bit worrying for those concerned with privacy.

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:26

    Sidepodcast's into Cali Lewis?

    It just moved up a whole level of cool! :D

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:27

    Twitter isn't designed with privacy in mind - just like email, never post enything you wouldn't want to be seen on a postcard sent through the mail.

    I encrypt my private email by default when I use my mail client. By work regulations it has to be unencrypted. ;)

  • me07/01/2010 at 23:31

    Sidepodcast's into Cali Lewis?

    and if i said she once left a comment here...

  • me07/01/2010 at 23:32

    not necessarily, i could easily find your twitpic url, its just twitpic.com/your username, and i know that. so theoretically you can

    That actually doesn't work. ;)

    http://twitpic.com/photos/Turkey_Machine

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:32

    and if i said she once left a comment here...

    My phone just went "ting" like a bell the minute that got posted.

    A text arrived. But it wasn't SPC related. Just a bloody nice coincidence. :D

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:32

    Alright smartarse....

  • lou07/01/2010 at 23:33

    hey everyone :)

  • Turkey Machine07/01/2010 at 23:34

    As quick as Lou arrives, I'm off. Need sleep. Long day ahead of me tomorrow. Bring on the weekend already!!!!! :D

  • me07/01/2010 at 23:35

    hey everyone :)

    *waves*

  • lou07/01/2010 at 23:35

    As quick as Lou arrives, I'm off. Need sleep. Long day ahead of me tomorrow. Bring on the weekend already!!!!! :D

    sleep well.

  • lou07/01/2010 at 23:35

    *waves*

    *waves back* how are you today mr c?

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 23:36

    hey everyone :)

    Hey Lou

    Hey all

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 23:39

    Morning all. Meant to be a lovely day today so I am going to explore Albert Park after work and see if there are any signs of life yet.

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 23:40

    Morning all. Meant to be a lovely day today so I am going to explore Albert Park after work and see if there are any signs of life yet.

    Hi Amy

    Find yourself a good spot :)

  • me07/01/2010 at 23:40

    Hey all

    heyya.

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 23:42

    Twitter is full, apparently

    Not seen this one before

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/full-twitter-jpg

  • Jon Waldock07/01/2010 at 23:43

    Twitter is full, apparently

    Not seen this one before

    http://drop.io...sset/full-twitter-jpg

    i get it often in the evening

  • Amy07/01/2010 at 23:43

    Get in line 11 weeks early? Id miss the tennis!

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 23:43

    i get it often in the evening

    I rarely access via the interwebz, no wonder they restrict apps refresh rates

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 23:44

    Twitter is full, apparently

    Not seen this one before

    http://drop.io...sset/full-twitter-jpg

    That's the Fail Whale - used to be a regular sight for me.

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 23:44

    Get in line 11 weeks early? Id miss the tennis!

    :D

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 23:52

    That's the Fail Whale - used to be a regular sight for me.

    Ahhh, I know the term but was unaware of it's origins

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 23:56

    I get the feeling there's going to be a new release of Firefox very soon. This one is broken.

  • Pat W07/01/2010 at 23:56

    I just realised I don't have any bread to make tomorrow's lunch, and I'm already leaving early because of the ice. May have to take the noodles I was saving for a late night snack over the weekend...

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 23:56

    I just realised I don't have any bread to make tomorrow's lunch...

    :(

    I hate that

  • Bassano07/01/2010 at 23:58

    I get the feeling there's going to be a new release of Firefox very soon. This one is broken.

    What do you think of Chrome Andy? I tried it once, then when back to my normal FF & Safari combo

  • Andy Taylor07/01/2010 at 23:59

    What do you think of Chrome Andy? I tried it once, then when back to my normal FF & Safari combo

    I've not tried it and don't intend to as I don't like the way it breaks the GUI.

  • Bassano08/01/2010 at 00:00

    I've not tried it and don't intend to as I don't like the way it breaks the GUI.

    How do you mean?

  • Andy Taylor08/01/2010 at 00:01

    How do you mean?

    Do you remember Safari 4 beta? With the tabs across the top of the window?

  • Bassano08/01/2010 at 00:02

    Do you remember Safari 4 beta? With the tabs across the top of the window?

    Ah yes, that irritated me too

  • Andy Taylor08/01/2010 at 00:03

    Ah yes, that irritated me too

    Well they pinched the idea from Chrome.

  • me08/01/2010 at 00:03

    Do you remember Safari 4 beta? With the tabs across the top of the window?

    have you downloaded firefox beta by mistake?

  • Bassano08/01/2010 at 00:04

    Well they pinched the idea from Chrome.

    Yeah, I remember that when the S4 beta was released

    I guess it's the self-contained tab thing and something that makes it stand out from the crowd a little

  • me08/01/2010 at 00:04

    What do you think of Chrome Andy? I tried it once, then when back to my normal FF & Safari combo

    ahh... we had this discussion yesterday.

    .........runs for the hils.

  • Andy Taylor08/01/2010 at 00:04

    have you downloaded firefox beta by mistake?

    No.

  • Bassano08/01/2010 at 00:04

    ahh... we had this discussion yesterday.

    Oops, sorry

    I don't see the allure personally but it appears to be taking off rather well

  • Andy Taylor08/01/2010 at 00:06

    Yeah, I remember that when the S4 beta was released

    I guess it's the self-contained tab thing and something that makes it stand out from the crowd a little

    It's also supposedly because Chrome runs each tab as a separate process, so it's a neat trick to collect all the processes/windows together. Unfortunately it breaks the "rule" that a particular UI element should do just one thing.

  • Andy Taylor08/01/2010 at 00:07

    Oops, sorry

    I don't see the allure personally but it appears to be taking off rather well

    That's because it's FAST, especially compared to IE8

  • Bassano08/01/2010 at 00:07

    It's also supposedly because Chrome runs each tab as a separate process.

    That's what I was trying to say [in a rather bad way :)]

  • Andy Taylor08/01/2010 at 00:13

    Goodnight all.

  • Bassano08/01/2010 at 00:13

    Night Andy