It's the first proper Monday back at work for F1 teams following the holiday period, so if nothing else, we're expecting some actual news worthy of discussion today. Are the rumours true, and will Honda staff learn any more about their long term future in this sport? Or are they in for a protracted and drawn out Aguri-esque lead up to Melbourne?

In the meantime, here's some discussion points to tide us over:

  • Sir Jackie Stewart has blasted Bernie for having way too much power and lacking any form of succession plan. Jackie is always right so there's no discussion to be had there, however, what can be done about it, and what would happen to F1 should Bernie not witness another sunrise?
  • In the comments, thoughts are already turning to future planning and Alex is considering a visit to Goodwood FoS this year. Do you already have your F1 plans in place, and if so where are you going in 2009 and why?
  • Additionally, we've been debating the subject of racing induced hearing loss and whether event organisers should be held responsible for providing protection (the people behind Goodwood FoS say "no chance"). So who should be held accountable for potential hearing damage in this modern era: organisers, promoters, teams, drivers, or the fans who turn up and watch?

All of this and much more to be considered by the Sidepodcommunity in the next 24 hours. You know where you'll find us.

266 responses

  • Trig05/01/2009 at 04:52

    I think hearing loss is gonna be a problem for our whole generation. We're the first generation to enjoy ipods, ridiculously loud concerts/clubs and car stereos with subwoofers that I can fit in.

    My plan is to ignore all the warnings and rely on medical science to save me when I can't hear my first born laugh.

  • Dave in NZL05/01/2009 at 05:17

    BATRacer - now that they season has started (sorry I took so long to join in), how do we quali and race? I don't see the options on the screen. Just practice (which I've used up). Any ideas please?

  • Dave in NZL05/01/2009 at 05:21

    Okay - I think I see it. Practice has now been activated and the quali period wil begin in the morning (NZL time), 11hr22mins hence.

  • me05/01/2009 at 05:21

    Okay - I think I see it. Practice has now been activated and the quali period wil begin in the morning (NZL time), 11hr22mins hence.

    nice one dave :)

  • The Pitstop - F1 Memorabilia05/01/2009 at 08:01

    I just booked my flights and accomodation for the Spanish F1 grand prix.

    I love this circuit and the atmosphere of the whole race weekend.

    I have been going for the last 5 years.

    Can't wait now

  • Alenyaa05/01/2009 at 08:35

    That sounds great. And indeed the atmosphere over there always seems to be great. I'm sure you'll have a blast! :)

  • Jeremy05/01/2009 at 08:37

    Ignorance is curable, not preventable. Unfortunately, common sense isn't so common.

    Sorry if this comment sounds harsh, but I believe in personal responsibility. If you get hearing damage from what you do, then it's usually your fault.

    Having said that, I think that there is some responsibility on the part of organisers to educate attendees beforehand as to the possible dangers.

  • Alenyaa05/01/2009 at 08:38

    Oh! And it turns out my team mate and I secured a one-two victory in what was quite an eventful race.

    I can't believe I'm now in the lead, compared to 20th (for now!)in our Sidepodcast league :D

  • F1Wolf05/01/2009 at 08:42

    2009 plans include Silverstone (before it is gone for good) and Singapore (because it was great there last year and also it gives me good reason to dump Shanghai for good)

    I am still considering Melbourne and can't make up my mind. But unless something smelly hits the fan I will probably go.

  • Journeyer05/01/2009 at 09:10

    Wolf! Singapore again? Dang, you have quite the race line-up there.

    I'm jealous! :P

  • F1Wolf05/01/2009 at 09:29

    Wolf! Singapore again?

    can't miss the Singapore thing :-)

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 09:35

    I think hearing loss is gonna be a problem for our whole generation. We’re the first generation to enjoy ipods, ridiculously loud concerts/clubs and car stereos with subwoofers that I can fit in. {Trig - 10 comments ago}

    I don't think hearing loss is going to be a problem for me, because my ears are currently so sensitive that sometimes I have to wear earplugs in the library where I work. Still, crossing the street to avoid being deafened by some of the clubs I walk past sometimes indicates that a lot of my contemporaries are likely to suffer it. The government needs to have more rigourous noise restrictions - it's not exactly as if a disco is any worse if the sound is quieter (since the punters will either appreciate being able to hear themselves think so that they can improve their pick-up lines or will be too drunk to care).

    I would have thought it was also an issue for the people who work in discos.

    To be fair, motorsports events (like rock concerts, but unlike clubs and discos) do warn people that events could be noisy, but the warnings could be clearer and the means of hearing protection at the venues more accessible. Besides, they could be a profit item for the organisers - ear defenders can be customised with the appropriate logo.

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 09:36

    BATRacer - now that they season has started {Dave in NZL - 10 comments ago}

    Thanks for joining in. It was worth the wait.

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 09:38

    I want to go to Singapore this year, but am waiting for a friend to make up her mind when she is going to get married (depending on when she times it, I may have an accomodation problem).

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 09:40

    I'm quite pleased with my 12th of 22 in practise, especially since my team-mate went out and practised after me.

  • Journeyer05/01/2009 at 09:54

    I want to go to Singapore this year, but am waiting for a friend to make up her mind when she is going to get married (depending on when she times it, I may have an accomodation problem).

    Interesting. Over here where I live, marriages are scheduled AT LEAST 6 months before, usually even earlier - 12-18 months before!

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 10:11

    Buemi's all but confirmed at STR.

    http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1231147823/formula_one/F1headlines/Buemi-all-but-confirmed/view.html

  • F1Wolf05/01/2009 at 10:15

    Interesting. Over here where I live, marriages are scheduled AT LEAST 6 months before, usually even earlier - 12-18 months before!

    where I am going next week people can get married in matter of minutes provided they are drunk enough :-)

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 10:17

    Autosport.com's changed the layout of it's website too. Looks pretty good.

  • Rishi05/01/2009 at 10:55

    I'll be at the final of the 2009 season at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix as a guest of Ferrari and Etihad Airways! WOOHOO! Can't wait!

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 11:00

    Rishi: 05/01/2009 at 10:55

    I’ll be at the final of the 2009 season at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix as a guest of Ferrari and Etihad Airways! WOOHOO! Can’t wait!

    Jealous! :D

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 11:04

    I’ll be at the final of the 2009 season at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix as a guest of Ferrari and Etihad Airways! WOOHOO! Can’t wait!

    Ooh, that sounds good. Hope it'll be a close championship again for you.

  • Rishi05/01/2009 at 11:07

    *Fingers crossed!*

    We shall see! Doubt anything could be as exciting as Brazil this year though!

    10 days to go till the 09 cars begin to reveal themselves!

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 11:08

    Crikey! Alonso's been in a plane crash!

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72615

    Unhurt, thankfully :)

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 11:09

    Crikey! Alonso’s been in a plane crash!http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72615

    I think "crash" is overstating it a bit!

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 11:10

    I think “crash” is overstating it a bit!

    I realised that once I looked back at the story and saw the word incident. That and reading the story. :P

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 11:12

    That and reading the story.

    Usually a good place to start :)

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 11:12

    Also, allow me to say:

    Happy Birthday to you

    Happy Birthday to you

    Happy Birthday Franck Montagny

    Happy Birthday to you!

    Franck is 31 today :D

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 11:13

    Franck is 31 today

    IS HE??

    Oops.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 11:14

    Christine: 05/01/2009 at 11:13

    Franck is 31 today

    IS HE??

    Oops.

    You forgot his birthday?! Actually, I didn't know he was either until I saw so on this website I'm looking on at the moment. :P

    But yes, have a good one Franck.

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 11:16

    You forgot his birthday?! Actually, I didn’t know he was either until I saw so on this website I’m looking on at the moment. But yes, have a good one Franck.

    I didn't forget. I don't actually know when it is.

    Well, I suppose I do now.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 11:17

    I didn’t forget. I don’t actually know when it is.

    Same as me then :P

  • me05/01/2009 at 11:22

    Wolf! Singapore again? Dang, you have quite the race line-up there.

    I’m jealous!

    me too! i wish i never asked :D

    I’ll be at the final of the 2009 season at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix as a guest of Ferrari and Etihad Airways! WOOHOO! Can’t wait!

    woah! coool.

  • me05/01/2009 at 11:37

    Autosport.com’s changed the layout of it’s website too. Looks pretty good.

    paid for content is now front and center, also mixed in with free stuff. interesting choice.

    i predict 2009 to be the year of autosport online. the xmas issue was likely to be the last we'll ever buy in the shops and it looks like the company are bringing more features to the site this year.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 11:57

    Blimey, BATracer has finally started?!! :-p

    Good luck in qualifying folks! I'm hoping to make the top 15 at least!

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 12:11

    Dank: 05/01/2009 at 11:57

    Blimey, BATracer has finally started?!! :-p

    Good luck in qualifying folks! I’m hoping to make the top 15 at least!

    With a full grid too :D

  • Rishi05/01/2009 at 12:47

    Hey guys!

    I was on Fantasy Racers for the last ten minutes or so and suddenly one of the Scuderia Toro Rosso drivers now show: "Sebastien Buemi" rather than the TBC shown before. I saw no news of this confirmation on Autosport but could this be a confirmation of Buemi's race seat for STR this season?

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 12:49

    I was on Fantasy Racers for the last ten minutes or so and suddenly one of the Scuderia Toro Rosso drivers now show: “Sebastien Buemi” rather than the TBC shown before. I saw no news of this confirmation on Autosport but could this be a confirmation of Buemi’s race seat for STR this season?

    It's almost a dead cert, just the confirmation to go, I think.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 12:50

    I saw no news of this confirmation on Autosport but could this be a confirmation of Buemi’s race seat for STR this season?

    Dietrich Mateschitz has suggested it.

    Franz Tost has suggested it.

    Gerhard Berger has suggested it.

    99.9% definitely driving for them next year!

  • me05/01/2009 at 13:09

    the more i look into the new autosport site, the more i'm amazed they didn't implement a daily journal system earlier.

    it makes no sense to wait until thursday to read entries, and now they can respond much faster, it makes the monthly investment much more worthwhile.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 13:24

    Believe it or not, I just bought my first ever song from iTunes. It's a historic moment people. I feel like crying. :P

  • me05/01/2009 at 13:31

    Believe it or not, I just bought my first ever song from iTunes. It’s a historic moment people. I feel like crying.

    you might wanna try mp3's from amazon.co.uk too. cheaper and drm free.

    have you discovered tv shows and films in itunes yet?

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 13:32

    Believe it or not, I just bought my first ever song from iTunes. It’s a historic moment people. I feel like crying.

    What was it and what made you take the plunge?

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 13:33

    What was it and what made you take the plunge?

    If I Could Fly by Joe Satriani, and I thought I'd give it a go since I've got my eye on an iPod Touch. :P Just bought Lights of Heaven by the same artist as well.

  • Journeyer05/01/2009 at 14:51

    where I am going next week people can get married in matter of minutes provided they are drunk enough

    Viva Las Vegas? :D

    Rishi: 05/01/2009 at 10:55

    I’ll be at the final of the 2009 season at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix as a guest of Ferrari and Etihad Airways! WOOHOO! Can’t wait!

    WOW. Just... WOW.

    me too! i wish i never asked

    Hahaha! That's what you get for asking. :P

  • me05/01/2009 at 15:08

    apparently even golf can damage your hearing too:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7811143.stm

    golf!

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 15:10

    apparently even golf can damage your hearing too:

    So can kissing though.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7772902.stm

    You have been warned.

  • me05/01/2009 at 15:12

    So can kissing though.

    "A strong kiss may cause an imbalance in the air pressure between two inner ears and lead to a broken ear drum."

    you couldn't make it up!

    golf though? i can't imagine a quieter sport.

  • lou05/01/2009 at 15:17

    apparently even golf can damage your hearing too:

    lol, i'll warn my parents :)

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 15:18

    golf though? i can’t imagine a quieter sport.

    This is why I only play golf on the Wii.

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 15:20

    <blockquote>Jackie is always right so there’s no discussion to be had there</blockquote>

    I can only think of two people who disagree with that statement.

    The government needs to have more rigourous noise restrictions

    The law for industrial noise was tightened 3 or 4 years ago. I think it may have been a European thing. Before businesses had to make hearing protection available at 85dB and wearing it was compulsory at 90dB. Now the levels I think are 82 and 85. That doesn't sound a lot but dB is a logoritmic scale.

  • Jon Waldock05/01/2009 at 15:20

    "A strong kiss may cause an imbalance in the air pressure between two inner ears and lead to a broken ear brum"

    tis true, your refering to the girl who went deaf because of kissing her boyfriend lol

  • lou05/01/2009 at 15:24

    Rishi: 05/01/2009 at 10:55

    I’ll be at the final of the 2009 season at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix as a guest of Ferrari and Etihad Airways! WOOHOO! Can’t wait!

    wow, lucky you! :D

    Do you already have your F1 plans in place, and if so where are you going in 2009 and why?

    i've not got anything finalised yet, but i'm hoping to be going to the British GP (my first GP :D ), and Goodwood FOS. Sadly i still have no idea about autosport international, dad has said we can discuss it when he gets home tonight. it's looking less and less likely though. :(

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 15:28

    golf though? i can’t imagine a quieter sport.

    I used to live very near a golf course and the occasionaly mishit ball would land in our back garden or one of the neighbours. A bunch of irate Scottish women near a golf course can be very noisy. Needless to say few of the golfers came looking for their ball.

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 15:38

    1 hour to go before BATracing qualifying.

  • me05/01/2009 at 15:43

    1 hour to go before BATracing qualifying.

    oooh, final preparations then. any weather data from FOM worth disregarding?

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 15:45

    oooh, final preparations then. any weather data from FOM worth disregarding?

    It says sunny.

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 15:47

    And on the subject of competitions voting fr the awards thing starts at midnight.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 15:49

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/01/happy-birthday-franck-montagny.html

    :D

  • me05/01/2009 at 15:51

    And on the subject of competitions voting fr the awards thing starts at midnight.

    roughly. they seem a bit worried about how their servers will stand up to the voting :)

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 15:52

    I'm also going to post the results of every Practice, Qualifying, Warmup and Race on the Wiki for past reference so that should we do this another time either this year or next year, we can look back at what happened where, who was good and who was rubbish. :P

  • me05/01/2009 at 15:52
  • Christine05/01/2009 at 15:53

    roughly. they seem a bit worried about how their servers will stand up to the voting

    They shouldn't have picked such massive communities then :) Stick with us, I say.

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 15:53

    I’m also going to post the results of every Practice, Qualifying, Warmup and Race on the Wiki for past reference so that should we do this another time either this year or next year, we can look back at what happened where, who was good and who was rubbish.

    Wonderful idea!

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:01

    Wonderful idea!

    One idea I'd been going over in my head was to run another F1 2008 game (or the 2009 carset, depends) and run it alongside the real season so we could get scenarios like "Man, Kimi's pole lap was amazing. Wasn't as fast as mine though" :P

    Been holding off with it though since it might pale into the background because of Live Commenting and Fantasy Racers each race weekend.

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:01

    I’m also going to post the results of every Practice, Qualifying, Warmup and Race on the Wiki for past reference so that should we do this another time either this year or next year, we can look back at what happened where, who was good and who was rubbish.

    should help anyone not playing, follow the action too.

    if you're not playing batracer by the way, but are passively watching the action, are you supporting any of us?

    *cough aguri*

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:02

    I'm starting to get an idea of why Christine picked Super Aguri

    *cough*Franck*cough*

    ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:08

    You know, I can still manually start the game. Sooo....qualifying in 30 mins or right now? ;)

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 16:09

    http://iheartfranck.com/2009/01/05/joyeux-anniversaire/

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:09

    You know, I can still manually start the game. Sooo….qualifying in 30 mins or right now?

    30mins. keep it regular.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:13
  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 16:14

    That is the best sidepodcake I have ever seen

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 16:18

    Ferrari plan to use the traffic lights again:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72621

    "We've analysed the mistakes made in 2008 and we've improved the system," he said. "An electronic program will prevent the car from leaving when the fuel hose is still attached."

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:22

    “We’ve analysed the mistakes made in 2008 and we’ve improved the system,” he said. “An electronic program will prevent the car from leaving when the fuel hose is still attached.”

    sounds infallible :D

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 16:22

    sounds infallible

    Of course. Computers don't get it wrong.

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:23

    Of course. Computers don’t get it wrong.

    sounds to me like the team no longer trust their employees.

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:25

    calendar news:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72623

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:25

    I think “crash” is overstating it a bit!

    Well, could have easily been a lot lot worse. Any more contact with that building and it could have been devastating.

    Though I do believe I watch too much Air Crash Investigation.

    Bad habit of mine.

    You know, I can still manually start the game. Sooo….qualifying in 30 mins or right now?

    Aw crap, my public game I crashed out and I was doing soo well. Well done Alenyaa though

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/01/happy-birthday-franck-montagny.html

    mweh.

    Last time I said anything about Franck Montagny I got into a lot of bother. So I ain't saying a thing

    “We’ve analysed the mistakes made in 2008 and we’ve improved the system,” he said. “An electronic program will prevent the car from leaving when the fuel hose is still attached.”

    Aus GP : Kimi Raikkonen goes to last after pit lights don't go green

    Mal GP : Felipe Massa drives over the jack man after pit lights go green to early

    Bah GP : Massa crashes into Raikkonen in SC period stop after pit lights don't go green

    And so on, and on.

    Buemi’s all but confirmed at STR. http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1231147823/formula_one/F1headlines/Buemi-all-but-confirmed/view.html

    YAY! A new driver, hallelujiah

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 16:26

    calendar news:

    And Red Bull on Feb 9th too.

    It's all go today. Everyone woke up.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:27

    Damn you mod queue.

    Hey, that rhymes.

    calendar news:

    Surely that should be 'unveiling news' cos for a minute you made me think that the Canadian GP was back

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:27

    It’s all go today. Everyone woke up.

    we thought it might :)

  • lou05/01/2009 at 16:28

    It’s all go today. Everyone woke up.

    yay :D

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:28

    Surely that should be ‘unveiling news’ cos for a minute you made me think that the Canadian GP was back

    apologies.

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 16:28

    All this excitement all of a sudden!

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 16:29

    Ferrari plan to use the traffic lights again:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72621

    “We’ve analysed the mistakes made in 2008 and we’ve improved the system,” he said. “An electronic program will prevent the car from leaving when the fuel hose is still attached.”

    Congrats to Mr Alonso for winning the 2009 championship thanks to several points lost from ferrari pitstop errors.

    ;)

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:29

    All this excitement all of a sudden!

    kinda shows how much news comes from the autosport website. they must've started back at work today, and suddenly the gmm rubbish is all forgotten.

  • lou05/01/2009 at 16:30

    “An electronic program will prevent the car from leaving when the fuel hose is still attached.”

    and a big lolly pop type thing doesn't? oh dear...

  • Dom05/01/2009 at 16:31

    Blimey, lots to catch up with today.

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:31

    Well, could have easily been a lot lot worse. Any more contact with that building and it could have been devastating.

    really? it was just taxiing wasn't it? it could've driven headlong into the control tower at that speed still not hurt anyone.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:31

    Ferrari, Renault and Toyota have been keepin their cards very close to their chest. It will be interesting to see how each of them in turn have interpreted the rules.

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 16:32

    sounds infallible

    It only needs a little switch to be fitted. I had this discussion before (maybe here) and within 5 minutes we had about 10 different ways of making it fail safe.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:33

    really? it was just taxing wasn’t it? it could’ve driven headlong into the control tower at that speed still not hurt anyone.

    No, was flying about the sounds of it.

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:33

    It only needs a little switch to be fitted. I had this discussion before (maybe here) and within 5 minutes we had about 10 different ways of making it fail safe.

    don't remember that, but i'm sure we did and i'm sure it can be. i'm mostly annoyed that ted was wrong when he said they'd binned it :(

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 16:35

    don’t remember that, but i’m sure we did and i’m sure it can be. i’m mostly annoyed that ted was wrong when he said they’d binned it

    THEY said they'd binned it. Now they've brought it back.

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:35

    No, was flying about the sounds of it.

    pretty sure it wasn't:

    "the Renault driver's plane made contact with a building before take-off"

    it's a non-story. on what started as a slow news day.

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:35

    THEY said they’d binned it. Now they’ve brought it back.

    ahh, that's okay then. they may continue ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:35

    5 minutes until BAT qualifying people :D

  • lou05/01/2009 at 16:36

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72622

    Red bull launching their car 9th February.

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 16:36

    *gets even more excited*

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:37

    Also nice to see some people are getting some colour onto their helmets instead of the plain white.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:38

    “the Renault driver’s plane made contact with a building before take-off”

    I'm reading this

    'AS said the plane's right wing struck a building, causing the pilot to momentarily lose control.''

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:39

    Wait. I know the problem, your reading off autosport and I'm reading of F1-Live

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:39

    AS said the plane’s right wing struck a building, causing the pilot to momentarily lose control.

    agreed. he lost control while taxiing. they're just trying to make it sound more exciting, no?

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:39

    Wait. I know the problem, your reading off autosport and I’m reading of F1-Live

    i trust autosport more.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:40

    Qualifying is in the queue! :D

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:41

    It's done! :D

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:42

    Wow, interesting results there :)

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 16:42

    Yay, Pole!

    Nearly got knocked out in Q2 as well...

  • Dom05/01/2009 at 16:42

    Happy with 14th. :)

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:43

    agreed. he lost control while taxing. they’re just trying to make it sound more exciting, no?

    Probs.

    i trust autosport more.

    Perhaps. Plus I just so happend to see this at the end of the F1-Live article

    Source: GMM

    Wow, interesting results there

    "Unexpected sideways moment."

    Grr

  • lou05/01/2009 at 16:44

    yay, 12th for a honda :D

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 16:44

    AS said the plane’s right wing struck a building, causing the pilot to momentarily lose control.”

    Surely he lost control before he hit something. That is the noemal order of things. Cause and effect are quite clear in these situations. Loss of control causes accident. Accident does not lose control.

  • Dom05/01/2009 at 16:45

    yay, 12th for a honda

    I like BATracer.

  • lou05/01/2009 at 16:46

    I like BATracer.

    :P yep me too :D

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 16:46

    Wow. I'm not last. This must be a first.

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 16:46

    Qualified 5th and beat my mega-experienced team mate. The high risk qualifying strategy worked.

  • Dom05/01/2009 at 16:47

    So do we need to be online for the race?

  • lou05/01/2009 at 16:47

    So do we need to be online for the race?

    nope.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:48

    The grid for Melbourne:

    1st - Lukeh (Renault)

    2nd - Selidor (Ferrari)

    3rd - Alex Andronov (Toyota)

    4th - Joe (BMW)

    5th - Steven Roy (McLaren)

    6th - Scott Woodwiss (McLaren)

    7th - Alianora La Canta (Force India)

    8th - Gavin Brown (Toro Rosso)

    9th - Al (Toro Rosso)

    10th - Dank (Red Bull)

    11th - Matt Kamalsky (Force India)

    12th - lou (Honda)

    13th - Lynch (Red Bull)

    14th - Dom (Williams)

    15th - Dave in NZL (Toyota)

    16th - R.G (BMW)

    17th - Jackie (Renault)

    18th - Alenyaa (Honda)

    19th - Mr C (Super Aguri)

    20th - Christine (Super Aguri)

    21st - Dan Brunell (Williams)

    22nd - Trig (Ferrari)

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:49

    Surely he lost control before he hit something. That is the noemal order of things. Cause and effect are quite clear in these situations. Loss of control causes accident. Accident does not lose control.

    fair enough, even worse journalism then. just reading the article r.g. quoted...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    Source: GMM

    never gets old that one :D

    http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090105120210.shtml

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:53

    The grid for Melbourne:

    i've changed my mind about my private battle with alex :(

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:54

    Steven - warmup runs are done, but make sure to read the note I left in team talk before you do yours.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:54

    The grid for Melbourne:

    No need to post that surely. We all know it.

    Surely he lost control before he hit something. That is the noemal order of things. Cause and effect are quite clear in these situations. Loss of control causes accident. Accident does not lose control.

    And not neccisariy. Say, a plane tags a tree, then it goes out of control, wasn't before, but was after

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 16:55

    No need to post that surely. We all know it.

    What about those not taking part?

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 16:56

    And not neccisariy. Say, a plane tags a tree, then it goes out of control, wasn’t before, but was after

    Presumably the pilot was not in total control when he hit something.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:57

    Presumably the pilot was not in total control when he hit something.

    Depends. If he's on autopilot, where these incidents take place, surely the plane is in full control.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 16:59

    And now I just shunted it in the warm up. Gah

  • me05/01/2009 at 16:59

    Depends. If he’s on autopilot, where these incidents take place, surely the plane is in full control.

    autopilot whilst taxiing?

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 17:01

    autopilot whilst taxiing?

    I was talking about it general.

    The pilot shouldn't really be going at any dangerous speeds whilst he is taxiing, should be in control

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 17:03

    Scotty. I don't think a page for each session is needed, perhaps just a page for each race weekend under the appropriate headings.

  • me05/01/2009 at 17:04

    Scotty. I don’t think a page for each session is needed, perhaps just a page for each race weekend under the appropriate headings.

    is he gunning for the most edited wiki table this week?

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 17:07

    Scotty. I don’t think a page for each session is needed, perhaps just a page for each race weekend under the appropriate headings.

    Good point, I'll change it.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 17:08

    is he gunning for the most edited wiki table this week?

    Ooh, still second most edits on the wiki for I.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 17:18

    I'll do them at the end of the game. Every game gets archived and you can access the results of qualifying and the race for event.

  • Selidor05/01/2009 at 17:44

    P2 - it'll do :P

    Hmm, are all the cars equal on performance in this private league?

    I think hearing loss is gonna be a problem for our whole generation. We’re the first generation to enjoy ipods, ridiculously loud concerts/clubs and car stereos with subwoofers that I can fit in.

    I saw a programme on channel 4 a few months ago, i think it was called "embarrasing illnesses: teenage body special" or similar, and one of the episodes had a section on the damage teens are doing to their ears from concerts and ipods etc. They had a device that tested earphone volumes from ipods at a shopping centre, and found that a lot of the people they met had them at very high or unsafe levels.

    A simulation of what it was like to have tinnitus was there, but it must have been a really bad case of tinnitus because everything was either inaudiable or distorted - probably for shock value, and it certinaly got the point across.

    They also said they're expecting a much higher number of hearing aid users aged about 35 or under in the near future.

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 17:48

    is he gunning for the most edited wiki table this week?

    Maybe trying to get us into the top 500

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 17:48

    P2 - it’ll do

    Hmm, are all the cars equal on performance in this private league?

    I'm guessing they'll be representative of performance based on real life models.

    http://batracer.com/-cC

    There's a car comparison of the teams and engines but over the season I believe it changes.

    Also, you're sharing the front row with me! It's on, buddy. ;)

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 17:50

    Some how I managed to get third in the warm up but I guess that means I am guranteed 17th at worst.

  • Alex Andronov05/01/2009 at 17:52

    What happened there? I have honestly no idea how I managed to come third!

    I'm expecting a Toyota Train for the race now! Woohoo!

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 17:53

    Some how I managed to get third in the warm up but I guess that means I am guranteed 17th at worst.

    Hmm, both Beemers seemed to have shunted our cars :(

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 18:17

    NOES!!!!!!!

    I just done my warm-up in BATracer when this happened!

    You damaged your car on your last run, and was not able to complete a lap. In addition, time taken to repair the damage has limited further testing.

    :-(

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 18:18

    I just done my warm-up in BATracer when this happened!

    Join the club mate.

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 18:23

    You damaged your car on your last run, and was not able to complete a lap. In addition, time taken to repair the damage has limited further testing.

    That and 'You were overenthusiastic in your last run' are the most evil messages ever.

    :(

  • Lynch05/01/2009 at 18:27

    NOES!!!!!!!

    I just done my warm-up in BATracer when this happened!

    I got that twice! (although cranking up the slider at the top doesn't help!)

  • Selidor05/01/2009 at 18:47

    Also, you’re sharing the front row with me! It’s on, buddy. ;)

    Indeed it is! May the best man win!

    Of course, I mean the best man in a Ferrari... ;)

  • me05/01/2009 at 18:50

    i am one second off of danks pace. a whole second.

  • me05/01/2009 at 18:51

    so, i've done me setup. anything else need doing before tomorrow?

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 18:54

    so, i’ve done me setup. anything else need doing before tomorrow?

    Set up your driving style and your race strategy with pit stops, etc?

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 18:57

    & don't pit on the same lap as your team mate

  • me05/01/2009 at 18:59

    Set up your driving style and your race strategy with pit stops, etc?

    righto.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 19:07

    & don’t pit on the same lap as your team mate

    Yup, in this carset that causes queueing, which you definately don't want.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 19:07

    Brundle might walk...

    Motor racing pundit Martin Brundle (right) is in discussion with the BBC's new Formula One production team as to how his celebrated prerace grid walk from his ITV days can best be revamped next season.

    Brundle has his doubts whether the unrehearsed and unscripted interviews will continue to work, especially as the drivers - with other arranged media commitments while on the grid - are becoming increasingly reluctant to chat.

    The likelihood is that the Beeb will cherry pick the best races for the Brundle walk.

  • me05/01/2009 at 19:09

    Brundle might walk…

    didn't waste any time throwing his weight around, did he?

    sounds like the beeb are angling for bernie to step in and insist the driver's be more media friendly, maybe?

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 19:10

    Brundle might walk…

    Such a misleading title! Arrrgh! ;_;

    I hope he carries it on, it's always entertaining. Everyone loves Brundle... kind of... *looks at Max and bernie*

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 19:11
  • me05/01/2009 at 19:13

    Such a misleading title! Arrrgh! ;_;

    any idea why the mail mixes all those topics into one page?

    they did the same here:

    Thorny claim over racing champ

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1105172/Wills-Harry-alone.html

  • me05/01/2009 at 19:15

    Oh god.

    repeat after me: "grid walks can be fun".

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 19:16

    repeat after me: “grid walks can be fun”.

    No.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 19:19

    any idea why the mail mixes all those topics into one page?

    Because they're a scummy racist bunch of bigots?

    (doesn't like The Mail, can you tell?)

  • me05/01/2009 at 19:19

    (doesn’t like The Mail, can you tell?)

    for a second there i thought you were talking about GMM :D

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 19:23

    for a second there i thought you were talking about GMM

    Lots of love for the GMM today :P

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 19:24

    for a second there i thought you were talking about GMM

    The Mail vs GMM

    Tough one! :-D

  • me05/01/2009 at 19:29

    Lots of love for the GMM today

    sorry. i'll let it go. it's just because autosport / grandprix.com / others have all come back into play today.

    the difference is like night & day.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 19:31

    Yay! Interlagos to be added as new A1GP track this season

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72626

  • lou05/01/2009 at 19:31

    repeat after me: “grid walks can be fun”.

    haha

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 19:38

    Thorny claim over racing champ

    That is hardly an original story i heard that years ago.

  • me05/01/2009 at 19:40

    That is hardly an original story i heard that years ago.

    to be honest i didn't even know there was a mystery surrounding his death. i just get confused when f1 stories appear on google with a title relating to the royal family. i spend ages scrolling around looking for a paragraph :(

  • me05/01/2009 at 19:45

    axis has some plane "crash" pictures:

    http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/2009/01/lost-in-translation-alonso-plane-crash.html

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 19:49

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21072.html

    Red Bull's long term plan to have VW engines

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 19:49

    axis has some plane “crash” pictures:

    Thats hardly a building now is it.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 19:50

    Steven Roy: 05/01/2009 at 19:49

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21072.html

    Red Bull’s long term plan to have VW engines

    First the Dakar, then F3, Now F1. Is there no stopping the Red Bull-VW partnership?!

    That said, a new engine supplier would be welcome. :)

  • me05/01/2009 at 19:51

    Thats hardly a building now is it.

    worst.controltower.ever!

    :D

    :D

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 19:51

    axis has some plane “crash” pictures:

    Makes you wonder how they got out alive.

  • me05/01/2009 at 19:53

    Makes you wonder how they got out alive.

    i tell ya, that damaged paintwork is gonna be a serious headache for someone.

    it's the fence i feel most sorry for.

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 19:54

    axis has some plane “crash” pictures:

    Does that actually count as a building?

  • lou05/01/2009 at 19:54

    i tell ya, that damaged paintwork is gonna be a serious headache for someone.

    it’s the fence i feel most sorry for

    haha :D

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:09

    in the fast paced world of formula 1, every single person involved has an important role to play in the success of a team... erm, except for this man:

    "Mr Boland disclosed how he struggled to live up to [Ron Dennis'] exacting demands, attending to everything from the silver-leaf fittings to the cushions on the motor-racing tycoon's private aircraft."

    it's a tough life isn't it? apparently the chap is taking ron to court for unfair dismissal, despite being somewhat hopeless at his rather cushy job:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/4126784/Ron-Dennis-sacked-personal-air-steward-over-unfounded-gay-rumours-tribunal-hears.html

    i dread to think what he'd have done if ron's aircraft had had an argument, with say... a fence and a garden shed.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 20:13

    Few more details about the goings-on at the BBC.

    *No announcement expected before January 19th.

    *Suzi Perry, Jake Humphrey, Adrian Chiles, Gabby Logan and Jonathan Legard were the only people seriously considered for anchor.

    *Ted Kravitz's job title will be "F1 analyst" although he'll be based in the pits.

    *Terms with Peter Windsor failed.

    *Adam Parsons decision to leave BBC News was as a result of not being part of their F1 coverage.

    Of all the past/present ITV F1 team, the following people applied for a role within BBC's coverage:

    *Martin Brundle

    *Ted Kravitz

    *Charlie Webster

    *Mark Blundell

    *Lee McKenzie

    *Tony Jardine

    Brundle, Kravitz and McKenzie of course are now part of the BBC team, while Webster is now with BBC Look North (I think).

    Steve Rider, James Allen and Louise Goodman were never considered and never applied.

    Thank the heavens that Peter Windsor couldn't come to any agreement with the BBC! And Charlie Webster applied but was rejected - hopefully this will be the end of her (woeful) presenting career and she'll find work on QVC or something.

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:14

    Thank the heavens that Peter Windsor couldn’t come to any agreement with the BBC! And Charlie Webster applied but was rejected - hopefully this will be the end of her (woeful) presenting career and she’ll find work on QVC or something.

    lucky escapes all round. gabby logan?? phew, we got lucky we did.

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:17

    any ideas what:

    "No announcement expected before January 19th."

    means? were we expecting anything else?

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 20:18

    lucky escapes all round. gabby logan?? phew, we got lucky we did.

    Adrian Chiles! Ugh!

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:20

    Adrian Chiles! Ugh!

    he was great on working lunch.

    not sure that makes for an ideal sports anchorman though.

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 20:21

    means? were we expecting anything else?

    Yeah i thought that... i cant see what else they cna fill though so maybe it'll be something red button related? We havent really heard how the BBC will produce the races concerning their massive interactive service...

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 20:22

    while Webster is now with BBC Look North (I think).

    Not that I'm aware of. We've got an all male sports line up.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 20:22

    means? were we expecting anything else?

    I think perhaps it is reference to the schedule, what will be covered when/where etc.

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 20:22

    Although, as I say that, F1 Racing had an excellent article 2 months ago or so on what the BBC can do. I hope they picked up on it.

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:25

    Although, as I say that, F1 Racing had an excellent article 2 months ago or so on what the BBC can do. I hope they picked up on it.

    am really hoping they don't, and instead do it all on the web.

    multiple online streams of information is easier to mange than flicking a red button on freeview. and it can all be integrated into live commenting.

    with the red button, you cut off anyone outside of the uk.

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 20:27

    multiple online streams of information is easier to mange than flicking a red button on freeview. and it can all be integrated into live commenting.

    I never thought of that, its a good idea. The bbc have a wealth of technology behind them so we'll see what they decide to do with our money ;)

    Although it doesn't affect me personally, I've heard a feew rumbles and grumbles that the bbc don't want to do F1 HD. I havent even seen it mentioned yet.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 20:28

    F1 Racing had an excellent article

    OXYMORON ALERT! :-D

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:29

    Although it doesn’t affect me personally, I’ve heard a feew rumbles and grumbles that the bbc don’t want to do F1 HD. I havent even seen it mentioned yet.

    on the plus side it means we don't have to buy a HD television. which is nice.

    on the downside, it means f1 falls ever farther behind other sports broadcasting. football is currently experimenting with 3d technology, but you can't do that until you HD sussed.

    f1 is going backwards by standing still.

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:30

    OXYMORON ALERT!

    they printed your letter didn't they?

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 20:31

    they printed your letter didn’t they?

    I've never written to them... Oh hold on. They did feature a couple of my questions to Ross Brawn and DC.

    Those where two fabulous months in the world of F1 Racing magazine.

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:33

    Those where two fabulous months in the world of F1 Racing magazine.

    :D

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:33

    Those where two fabulous months in the world of F1 Racing magazine.

    scott wrote them a letter too...

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 20:35

    Three fabulous months...

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 20:36

    I think Scott got a question published too

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:38

    Three fabulous months…

    but apart from those three fabulous months, the published questions and the whole bbc interactive thing... what has f1 racing ever done for us?

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 20:39

    They let Stuart live comment from the press box at actual races

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 20:39

    but apart from those three fabulous months, the published questions and the whole bbc interactive thing… what has f1 racing ever done for us?

    Supplied Stuart C to this site?

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:41

    Supplied Stuart C to this site?

    ok...

    apart from those three fabulous months, the published questions, the whole bbc interactive thing, and for supplying SC with all those excellent insights… what has f1 racing ever done for us?

    :D

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 20:42

    apart from those three fabulous months, the published questions, the whole bbc interactive thing, and for supplying SC with all those excellent insights… what has f1 racing ever done for us?

    Helped with the ING F1 Survey

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:43

    Helped with the ING F1 Survey

    bugger.

  • Lady Snowcat05/01/2009 at 20:43

    With due deference to Stuart C who comes across as an articulate and intelligent guy on his posts I find F1 Racing is becoming more of a comic and less of a true monthly publication...

    But perhaps I am in the minority...

    (And I haven't even mentioned the cover thing....)

  • Lukeh05/01/2009 at 20:43

    I blame the guy who initially mentioned f1 racing in a post for this silliness!

    ...wait.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 20:44

    bugger.

    :D

    Just take it Mr C, your in a sinking submarine and can't get out

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:44

    They let Stuart live comment from the press box at actual races

    i think i'm gonna call dank on excellent-article-oxymoron-gate, and suggest he picks on autosport magazine instead :D

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:44

    (And I haven’t even mentioned the cover thing….)

    please do.

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:45

    Just take it Mr C, your in a sinking submarine and can’t get out

    me? nooo, i torpedoed the tub. you can see me waving from the shore.

    *waves*

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 20:45

    me: 05/01/2009 at 20:33

    Those where two fabulous months in the world of F1 Racing magazine.

    scott wrote them a letter too…

    Indeed, on Kimi possibly being bored in F1. I remember Stuart said he wanted to give me the bag for it but didn't want to seem biased at all.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 20:46

    what has f1 racing ever done for us?

    It erm, it er... erm, I give up?

    Helped with the ING F1 Survey

    But then what relevance has this got on F1? Cynical ol' me doesn't believe that anybody high-up takes notice of the results of the poll. Where are the full results anyway?

  • me05/01/2009 at 20:47

    Indeed, on Kimi possibly being bored in F1. I remember Stuart said he wanted to give me the bag for it but didn’t want to seem biased at all.

    did he?

  • Dom05/01/2009 at 20:47

    bugger.

    :D

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 20:48

    I remember Stuart said he wanted to give me the bag for it but didn’t want to seem biased at all.

    Future tip: use a different alias!

  • lou05/01/2009 at 20:50

    me? nooo, i torpedoed the tube. you can see me waving from the shore.

    *waves*

    hehe

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 20:50

    *waves*

    Why look, is that a shark?

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 20:52

    did he?

    As far as I can remember, he left a comment here saying so. Might have to go find it.

  • Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time...05/01/2009 at 20:55

    Evening all.

    I can't believe Christine can have a website dedicated to her favourite Frenchman (well one of them) and not know his birthday!

    Did you know that iPods and other personal music devices sold in the EU have their maximum volume limited by law?

    I'm not sure about the grid walks, although they have provided us with some great live TV moments, I'd rather not know what some random celebrity who has probably never seen a F1 car before thinks about the race.

  • Christine05/01/2009 at 20:56

    As far as I can remember, he left a comment here saying so. Might have to go find it.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/08/14/inside-track-valencia/#comment-92071

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 20:57

    Did you know that iPods and other personal music devices sold in the EU have their maximum volume limited by law?

    And yet there's a place on the Internet where you can get a program which can take the limiter off. Ridiculous.

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 20:59

    Christine: 05/01/2009 at 20:56

    As far as I can remember, he left a comment here saying so. Might have to go find it.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/08/14/inside-track-valencia/#comment-92071

    Ah yeah there it is. Reading it, I thought it was because he wouldn't seem biased but the issue it featured in was the Ferrari Special with a big Kimi interview. It wouldn't really make sense or be quite logical to award the star prize to a letter that's slating him in an issue that's lauding him. Still, I didn't really care about the bag that much. Just getting my e-mail in the magazine was enough of a prize! :D

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 21:13

    Got two quick questions about BATracer, in particular how the actual races work.

    1. Selecting tyres: if I choose a set of hards, I assume it automatically selects the softer tyres when it comes to pitting? How does it know when I want to change to the softs and also which set out of three to choose?

    2. Is the race over in a matter of seconds or can you follow it online lap-by-lap as it unfolds?

  • Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time...05/01/2009 at 21:13

    And yet there’s a place on the Internet where you can get a program which can take the limiter off. Ridiculous.

    Not the current models, although it may be possible to get around the limit by using a device that connects via the dock connector.

  • me05/01/2009 at 21:18

    Not the current models, although it may be possible to get around the limit by using a device that connects via the dock connector.

    a pair of amplified speakers?

    :)

  • Steven Roy05/01/2009 at 21:21

    I just had a quick look at Fantasy Racers. 78 people have signed up and 40 of them are in our league. We have more than half the people in the whole thing.

  • me05/01/2009 at 21:22

    I just had a quick look at Fantasy Racers. 78 people have signed up and 40 of them are in our league. We have more than half the people in the whole thing.

    waaay hey :)

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 21:22

    1. Selecting tyres: if I choose a set of hards, I assume it automatically selects the softer tyres when it comes to pitting? How does it know when I want to change to the softs and also which set out of three to choose?

    1. Erm, I'm gonna assume you mean the tyre choices for the race. If you're planning on softs, then don't go for them. Use hards all the time in F1, softs obviously wear quicker and you'll find you'll have to run shorter stints which can lose you time due to having to visit the pits more often. But to really answer you question, say for example you want to use both the hard and soft tyres in the race. If you have both of them ticked and start on Hard, the game will switch to the quickest tyres in the best condition. So if you've got 2 sets of softs on heat cycled and one on green, the game will fit you with the green set because they haven't been used.

    2. A bit of both really. When a session is being calculated, it will go in the queue for about a minute. Once that session has advanced, you can look the race lap by lap.

  • lou05/01/2009 at 21:23

    I just had a quick look at Fantasy Racers. 78 people have signed up and 40 of them are in our league. We have more than half the people in the whole thing.

    oooh i forgot to sign up.. will do so now.

  • Dank05/01/2009 at 21:25

    Cheers Scott. I had a blonde-moment with my first query and sussed it out shortly before your reply :-D

  • Lady Snowcat05/01/2009 at 21:31

    Indeed, on Kimi possibly being bored in F1. I remember Stuart said he wanted to give me the bag for it but didn’t want to seem biased at all.

    It coincided with an all too infrequent article on Kimi... that was the reason....

    Additionally it should be said that some of the "valued" subscribers felt somewhat differently to SC on the topic ....

  • Lady Snowcat05/01/2009 at 21:34

    (And I haven’t even mentioned the cover thing….)

    please do.

    I will just leave it to everyone's memory...

    Although I await the next issue, and indeed all this year's covers, with some trepidation...

  • Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time...05/01/2009 at 21:34

    a pair of amplified speakers?

    Hehe. The B&W Zeppelin speakers you can find in the Apple Store are very loud, but i was thinking of something that uses the line out capability of the dock.

    Something I have noticed is that many people I speak to are more concerned with maximum volume rather than fidelity. :(

  • me05/01/2009 at 21:39

    Something I have noticed is that many people I speak to are more concerned with maximum volume rather than fidelity.

    makes sense though. if you were interested in fidelity, you wouldn't compress the nuts out of your songs just to fit them on a flash drive. and you wouldn't be listening back to them on a device that's smaller than most decent pre-amps.

  • Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou's comment record one post at a time...05/01/2009 at 21:47

    makes sense though. if you were interested in fidelity, you wouldn’t compress the nuts out of your songs just to fit them on a flash drive. and you wouldn’t be listening back to them on a device that’s smaller than most decent pre-amps.

    I suppose, but the top-end speaker docks sound pretty good. My personal favourite right now is the JBL On Stage IIIp - just under a hundred quid, tiny, but sounds surprisingly good.

    The B&W Zeppelin sounds amazing though. A snip at £391 :)

    I have to admit that I use a higher than standard bit rate on all my CD rips (192kbps rather than 128kbps) and have difficulty telling the difference between the compressed audio and the original CD. AAC is a massive improvement over MP3.

  • Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou\'s comment record one post at a time...05/01/2009 at 21:49

    Stuck in moderation I think for mentioning expensive speaker docks

  • me05/01/2009 at 21:53

    I have to admit that I use a higher than standard bit rate on all my CD rips (192kbps rather than 128kbps) and have difficulty telling the difference between the compressed audio and the original CD. AAC is a massive improvement over MP3.

    i can't either which is why i own an ipod.

    but i know people who can. i've personally tested them, and every time they can spot a CD ripped to WAV over a CD ripped to AAC.

    those pay upwards of £700 for just a CD mechanism and wouldn't come within a hundred yards of JBL anything :(

  • Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou\'s comment record one post at a time...05/01/2009 at 22:29

    those pay upwards of £700 for just the CD mechanism and wouldn’t come within a hundred yards of JBL anything

    Do they buy "one way" interconnects that have to be "run in" for 2 weeks before first use? You know what they say about a fool and his money...

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 22:29

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/01/prepare-to-launch.html

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 22:30

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/01/prepare-to-launch.html

    Dang, I thought you were going into space there

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 22:33

    Dang, I thought you were going into space there

    Me? In space? Don't make me laugh :P

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)05/01/2009 at 22:34

    Me? In space? Don’t make me laugh

    The title made it sound like it

  • me05/01/2009 at 22:36

    Do they buy “one way” interconnects that have to be “run in” for 2 weeks before first use? You know what they say about a fool and his money…

    i do.

  • Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou\'s comment record one post at a time...05/01/2009 at 22:37

    i do.

    :D

  • Jeremy05/01/2009 at 22:54

    Some Apple Inc. news:

    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/01/05sjletter.html

    This letter still has people asking a lot of questions but at least states clearly that if Steve were unable to continue in his job, Apple would tell the world.

  • me05/01/2009 at 23:00

    This letter still has people asking a lot of questions but at least states clearly that if Steve were unable to continue in his job, Apple would tell the world.

    good to hear.

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:15

    Interesting. Over here where I live, marriages are scheduled AT LEAST 6 months before, usually even earlier - 12-18 months before! {Journeyer - 210 comments ago}

    The friend in question basically can't agree with her parents over when to have the wedding - if her parents had had their way, she'd have been married last summer. She counters that she wants to get established in her career first and so does her husband-to-be. It also doesn't help that the wedding details are a bit complicated because the guest list is well into four figures (both bride and groom come from large families and tradition says that everyone both of them knows and their parents know has to be invited). The latter makes accommodation for the day itself and the immediate preparations... ...complicated.

    Also, it must be scheduled between other weddings in the family. When she was at university, it seemed like there were two or three weddings a month in her extended family, most of which she managed to get out of on account of being unavoidably halfway around the world at the time. (She still had to attend about five during the summer holidays).

    It's a problem for me because she's given me an open invitation to stay with her at any time, but I need to know where the house will be (otherwise I risk getting to Singapore and not being able to find where I'm staying).

    Getting a hotel, at the prices likely to be charged, is not an option.

  • Journeyer05/01/2009 at 23:22

    Rather traditional parents there, alia. Make that VERY traditional parents. HUGE guest list too. I really hope that they still manage to enjoy the wedding; everything just seems much too complicated for my liking.

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:24

    7th - Alianora La Canta (Force India) {Scott Woodwiss}

    My mechanics were so happy with this that they took to spraying champagne all over the pit garage. Luckily they cleaned it all up again before warm-up. The trouble is that someone now has to nip down to the local supermarket in case we score points tomorrow...

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:27

    Hmm, are all the cars equal on performance in this private league? {Selidor}

    No. They have the 2008 performance spread. The only modification to this game I can see is that there is a 75% better chance of overtaking than in the standard version.

  • Andy Taylor - trying to break Lou\'s comment record one post at a time...05/01/2009 at 23:27

    good to hear.

    It is and basically confirms what one US journalist wrote back in October after the Macbook launch - he was told off the record and wrote that Steve Jobs' condition was "serious, but not life threatening".

    Now we can look forward to an exciting keynote - remember last year saw the launch of the Macbook Air.

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:35

    with the red button, you cut off anyone outside of the uk. {me}

    With the red button, you also cut off anyone whose digital signal isn't good enough to receive the interactive section of the red buttons (which is the hardest bit to get). Even if you get digital BBC and the text element of the red button, that isn't a guarantee that you get the red button interactive bit. That includes me and a lot of people in difficult signal areas. (Though it could be worse - some people two villages away get no digital channels at all).

    Mind you, it shouldn't be that difficult to get the red button stuff online (though putting it on iPlayer is another matter).

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:38

    Three fabulous months… {Dank}

    I've had an opinion on Red Bull's 2008 chances published in there as well. Also notable because the art team managed to turn the accompanying photo from a blue blob to something resembling a plausibly human face.

    And F1 Racing does good articles sometimes. In fact, my dad commented just before Christmas that he thought that F1 Racing had improved a lot this year.

  • Journeyer05/01/2009 at 23:44

    Thank the heavens that Peter Windsor couldn’t come to any agreement with the BBC! And Charlie Webster applied but was rejected - hopefully this will be the end of her (woeful) presenting career and she’ll find work on QVC or something.

    Charlie's hot, though. Hahaha! And Peter Windsor isn't all that bad. :)

    Interesting results for BATracer, by the way. Ferrari are their usual Italian self - one car at the front, and another at the back. :P

    But if I were a betting man, I'd say McLaren will take the title. :)

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:45

    1. Selecting tyres: if I choose a set of hards, I assume it automatically selects the softer tyres when it comes to pitting? How does it know when I want to change to the softs and also which set out of three to choose? {Dank}

    No it doesn't. For that matter, the two-compound rule doesn't seem to apply here.

    It will take whichever compound is closest to the amount of water on the circuit, excluding those compounds which you have deselected. Otherwise, it will give you the least damaged set of tyres in each pitstop, going through them in numerical order in case of a tie-break.

  • Journeyer05/01/2009 at 23:49

    No it doesn’t. For that matter, the two-compound rule doesn’t seem to apply here.

    Just goes to show how crappy they think that rule is. :P

    Grandprix.com also put up a good article on Honda's fate. They're saying an announcement isn't due until the end of January, but it looks like they will indeed race under a new owner at Melbourne.

    Interesting, too, how Michael Schumacher's name was floated as a possible investor and commercial tie.

  • me05/01/2009 at 23:50

    Interesting, too, how Michael Schumacher’s name was floated as a possible investor and commercial tie.

    that had me worried.

  • Journeyer05/01/2009 at 23:54

    me: 05/01/2009 at 23:50

    Interesting, too, how Michael Schumacher’s name was floated as a possible investor and commercial tie.

    that had me worried.

    And why was that? After all, Ferrari may not renew his contract, so he'd need something else to do... :)

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 23:54

    Alianora La Canta: 05/01/2009 at 23:27

    Hmm, are all the cars equal on performance in this private league? {Selidor}

    No. They have the 2008 performance spread. The only modification to this game I can see is that there is a 75% better chance of overtaking than in the standard version.

    I can modify the upgrades to make all the cars equal if you wish ;)

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:55

    Rather traditional parents there, alia. Make that VERY traditional parents. HUGE guest list too. I really hope that they still manage to enjoy the wedding; everything just seems much too complicated for my liking. {Journeyer - 8 comments ago}

    That's just how a lot of families tend to be round that part of the globe. They're not that traditional though, because her family is Hindu and they're happily letting her marry a Muslim man (whose own family probably isn't that traditional). But skimping on the wedding would be seen as an insult by their respective communities against the happy couple.

    The huge guest list is largely a Hindu thing. It is traditional in that culture (at least as it is practised in Singapore) for, at the very least, everyone the bride and groom is on at least civil terms with to be invited. Over time, things have developed to the point where the parents of the couple treat it like a networking/social-climbing opportunity and invite everyone they know to the wedding as well. This is generally tolerated as the four of them are jointly responsible for the bill!

    I suspect that the couple will find the wedding fairly stressful, but they are planning a good honeymoon and they will have their friends there to help them get through the wedding and its preparations (including me :) ). Oh, and they have managed to negotiate their way out of some of the more fiddly pre-marital preparations traditional to each culture on the basis that they're planning on having a liberal marriage rather than one tied closely to either religion to the total exclusion of the other.

  • me05/01/2009 at 23:55

    I can modify the upgrades to make all the cars equal if you wish

    noo, it's fine as it is. you tinker more than max does ;)

  • me05/01/2009 at 23:55

    And why was that? After all, Ferrari may not renew his contract, so he’d need something else to do…

    and i'd rather he did away from formula one :)

  • Scott Woodwiss05/01/2009 at 23:56

    noo, it’s fine as it is. you tinker more than max does

    It gives me something to do :P

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:56

    Grandprix.com also put up a good article on Honda’s fate. They’re saying an announcement isn’t due until the end of January, but it looks like they will indeed race under a new owner at Melbourne. {Journeyer - 5 comments ago}

    That's good news :D

  • me05/01/2009 at 23:57

    It gives me something to do

    that's what he says!

  • Alianora La Canta05/01/2009 at 23:59

    I can modify the upgrades to make all the cars equal if you wish {Scott Woodwiss - 6 comments ago}

    I'm quite content with my Force India the way it is - but then I would say that at the moment...

  • lou05/01/2009 at 23:59

    Grandprix.com also put up a good article on Honda’s fate. They’re saying an announcement isn’t due until the end of January, but it looks like they will indeed race under a new owner at Melbourne.

    i suppose that's good, isn't it better to get some testing done soon though... ah well as long as they are racing this season i don't mind.

  • Scott Woodwiss06/01/2009 at 00:07

    that’s what he says!

    Oh god I'm turning into Max! Oh wait, I don't have an S&M fetish. Panic over. :P