Ah, our first testing session has drawn to a close and we have a couple of days to rest and analyse what we've seen so far. It's always had to look at the times and draw anything conclusive, but it's plenty of fun looking. Meanwhile, here are some of the things we're talking about:

  • Virgin Racing had their launch... sort of. It was delayed and ultimately was just a few pictures and video, but there were plenty of thoughts on the new look car in the breakout thread. We featured the new car in the latest F1 Big Picture, and I must say the title is rather fabulous.
  • Autosport have prepared a good table of all the times from testing in Valencia, with the drivers from each day compared with all the others. It's a great way of sizing up the teammates at least, even if we can't really work out which team is ahead of all the others. That would appear to be Ferrari, but is it really?
  • It is Thursday Thoughts day today, and Journeyer has very kindly offered up a guest post with the question of the day on it. There'll be a post along later with the question in it, and to take part, all you have to do is write a post on your blog with your answer. If you don't have a blog, we'd be more than happy to host your answers via a guest post here. Get involved!

That should keep us going for a while. Thursdays are not normally good, but let's hope it goes smoothly enough, and I will see you in the comments.

767 responses

  • me04/02/2010 at 00:06

    hullo thursday. love this twitter conversation:

    jonny noble:

    @Jamesallenonf1's challenge is to count up on his feed how many tweets were sent from the Valencia track during the first real 'tweet' test

    james allen:

    @NobleF1 - got the answer Jon - it's just under 1,000 tweets on the live feed since 9am Monday. As you say, the first Tweet test

  • me04/02/2010 at 00:11

    i swear the daily was going to mention how flippin' fabulous kathi's calendar instructions were: http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Calendar

    no doubt the plug will make it into tomorrow's instead. good stuff anyhow kathi.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 00:17

    hullo thursday. love this twitter conversation:

    That was the theme for the blog post I've been putting off for nearly a week. I should write it tomorrow. Oh, Thursday Thoughts is on.. Friday then.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 00:48

    From Jake Humphrey on Twitter - BBC F1 press launch:

    Right, bed. Watching DVD's of last year output with DC and EJ at 9(to make it better), the BBC F1 press launch at 12, then meetings till 9pm

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 01:06

    I'm off to bed. Just to quickly say I've made a start my Twitter lists:

    http://twitter.com/toomuchracing/teams

    http://twitter.com/toomuchracing/drivers

    http://twitter.com/toomuchracing/series

    Will add more tomorrow.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 02:34

    Sleeping is harder than it looks!

  • Bill04/02/2010 at 02:35

    Sleeping is indeed harder than it looks when you've been awake all night all week and you're a little inebriated. I concur.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 02:36

    Sleeping is indeed harder than it looks when you've been awake all night all week and you're a little inebriated. I concur.

    I've not been drinking. I've really warped my sleep patterns lately though. I was still awake when Nick woke up last night :(

  • Bill04/02/2010 at 02:40

    I have a plane to catch this morning and have to leave the hotel in just under 4 hours, and I'm not in the mood to sleep, my body clock has adusted to being awake from 3pm to 9am. I guess I'll sleep it off on the plane.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 02:44

    Sleeping is harder than it looks!

    Don't do it then or stop thinking of raw meat dripping on cooked meat

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 02:47

    Don't do it then or stop thinking of raw meat dripping on cooked meat

    I don't even have meat in my fridge!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 02:56

    I don't even have meat in my fridge!

    Then you should be able to sleep

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 02:58

    Then you should be able to sleep

    If I did have any meat, it would certainly be at the bottom of the fridge though....

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 03:06

    Then you should be able to sleep

    What's your excuse?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 03:08

    What's your excuse?

    I can't cope with 24 hour days. I need days to be longer

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 03:13

    I can't cope with 24 hour days. I need days to be longer

    I don't understand why I haven't passed out yet. I can't have had more than 3 and a half hours sleep last night. I got up at 9am. I really should be asleep now....

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 03:15

    I don't understand why I haven't passed out yet. I can't have had more than 3 and a half hours sleep last night. I got up at 9am. I really should be asleep now....

    I find the less sleep I have the longer I can stay awakethe next day. I used to have the weirdest sleep patterns when I worked odd shifts. I could work 16-18 hours a day on 4 hours sleep a night for about two weeks then I would sleep for about 16 hours straight and go again.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 03:33

    I find the less sleep I have the longer I can stay awakethe next day. I used to have the weirdest sleep patterns when I worked odd shifts. I could work 16-18 hours a day on 4 hours sleep a night for about two weeks then I would sleep for about 16 hours straight and go again.

    Hmmm yeah. I quite often have to entirely skip a night's sleep to get caught up.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 03:35

    Hmmm yeah. I quite often have to entirely skip a night's sleep to get caught up.

    I have only done that once recently and thought I would get an early night the following day to make up for it. I was still awake at 3am having been awake for 42 hours

  • paul04/02/2010 at 03:36

    I have only done that once recently and thought I would get an early night the following day to make up for it. I was still awake at 3am having been awake for 42 hours

    I must be the one who uses up all the sleep you people don't have.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 03:36

    I must be the one who uses up all the sleep you people don't have.

    I want my sleep back

  • paul04/02/2010 at 03:37

    I want my sleep back

    I thought you didn't need it? I love sleep :D

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 03:40

    I thought you didn't need it? I love sleep :D

    Doesn't mean we don't like it! I love sleep :(

  • paul04/02/2010 at 03:40

    Doesn't mean we don't like it! I love sleep :(

    Is there any cricket on? That puts me to sleep.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 03:41

    I thought you didn't need it? I love sleep :D

    Doesn't mean we don't like it! I love sleep :(

    I don't need chocolate but I still want it and if someone has my chocolate I want it back

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 03:42

    Is there any cricket on? That puts me to sleep.

    At 3:30am? I couldn't bring myself to watch it

  • paul04/02/2010 at 03:43

    I don't need chocolate but I still want it and if someone has my chocolate I want it back

    It's hard to argue with that.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 03:49

    I am going to try to get some sleep now. No-one is allowed to eat my chocolate while I am away.

    Good night all

  • paul04/02/2010 at 03:56

    Good night all

    :D Night Steven

    Shhhhhhh. Sidepodcast is asleep.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 05:39

    Bad start!

    Morning all :)

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 05:48

    Bad start!

    Blame it on the Thursday? ;)

    Hey Alex.

  • Rich04/02/2010 at 06:02

    Morning all :)

    You are bright and breezy - I am still pondering the thought of double dose of schumacher tonic to the F1 cocktail.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 06:06

    You are bright and breezy - I am still pondering the thought of double dose of schumacher tonic to the F1 cocktail.

    Sometimes, I wonder if F1 is one of those sports where no one wants to get old... :D

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 06:15

    Wolf, getting everything ready for Shanghai. Only the visa needs to be finalized now. Have all the requirements ready.

    Oh, have you heard that the metro line to the Shanghai Circuit is already open?

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 06:32

    Oh, have you heard that the metro line to the Shanghai Circuit is already open?

    haven't heard, interesting.

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 06:33

    I see tweet from Tony Fernandes, he just arrived in our polluted city :-)

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 06:33

    haven't heard, interesting.

    Just opened at the end of last year, apparently. So am hoping to use that instead of the bus. :D

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 06:33

    Oh no! Just realized that the Shanghai conversation is in the wrong thread. :( Mr or Mrs C, can you move this when you're awake? :D

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 06:35

    back to normal thread :-)

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 06:37

    Just opened at the end of last year, apparently. So am hoping to use that instead of the bus.

    it should considerably shorten the travelling time, although it depends from where the trains go

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 06:37

    it should considerably shorten the travelling time, although it depends from where the trains go

    it's connected to all the other lines, so in theory, it should be straightforward.

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 06:39

    it's connected to all the other lines, so in theory, it should be straightforward.

    nothing, nothing, nothing ever is straightforward in China

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 06:45

    nothing, nothing, nothing ever is straightforward in China

    that's why i said in theory. :D what are their metro lines like?

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 06:53

    singapore on sale march 1. You know you want to mr journeyer.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 07:02

    singapore on sale march 1. You know you want to mr journeyer.

    I want to, but I can't. :( I'm managing a project. And I've already booked my only leave during that project - Shanghai.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 07:03

    singapore on sale march 1. You know you want to mr journeyer.

    Are you going?

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 07:19

    that's why i said in theory. what are their metro lines like?

    no idea, never took metro in Shanghai, always taxi. but use it quite often in other cities like Shenzhen or Guangzhou and there it is OK except some of the aromas in the air. personal hygiene is not exactly popular among the travellers :-)

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 07:20

    looks like I will skip Singapore this year as Monza won the vote for the European race of the year. and as Singapore is the one after Italy I have to give Singapore a miss this year

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 07:25

    looks like I will skip Singapore this year as Monza won the vote for the European race of the year. and as Singapore is the one after Italy I have to give Singapore a miss this year

    You're still seeing Amy. ;) She's going to both!

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 07:26

    no idea, never took metro in Shanghai, always taxi. but use it quite often in other cities like Shenzhen or Guangzhou and there it is OK except some of the aromas in the air. personal hygiene is not exactly popular among the travellers

    Hmmm. I see...

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 07:32

    You're still seeing Amy. She's going to both!

    I am kicking off the season with Melbourn so there is another opportunity :-)

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 07:41

    Morning!

    Thanks for the link to the testing data - I feel I should blog about it but then lots of people say the times are worthless...

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 07:48

    Thanks for the link to the testing data - I feel I should blog about it but then lots of people say the times are worthless...

    maybe you can prove those time to be worth something :-)

  • F1Wolf04/02/2010 at 07:48

    something seriously wrong with my typing today

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 07:49

    Thanks for the link to the testing data - I feel I should blog about it but then lots of people say the times are worthless...

    The lap times on its own are indeed worthless. You can look at the longer runs and try making a hypothesis in terms of pace. It'll be deadly difficult (esp. considering we don't know their fuel levels), but hey, it's worth a try.

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 07:50

    Morning guys and girls. i have hoards of screaming schoolkids on my train and ELO is failing to drown them out. i need a lot more faith and a better solution. suicide is looking good!!!

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 07:52

    Morning guys and girls. i have hoards of screaming schoolkids on my train and ELO is failing to drown them out. i need a lot more faith and a better solution. suicide is looking good!!!

    Does your train have heating? It's -5 Andronov here and our lovely train company seems to hav decided it's going to be very green and not heat up the trains!!!

    The worst part is, they then come through selling hot drinks! :(

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 07:52

    The worst part is, they then come through selling hot drinks!

    Hmmm... Suspicious.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 07:55

    The worst part is, they then come through selling hot drinks!

    Hmmm... Suspicious.

    The have a 'travel guarantee' where if all the trains for that day are at least half an hour late, you get some money back if you have bought a monthly ticket (great using averages to make sure they don't pay you!).

    The funny part is, what with all the snow I have been late every day for nearly two months now. DSB paid me some money to my bank and then sent a letter asking us to pay half back because they paid us twice!

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 08:01

    rubbergoat, thats made me put faith in UK railways. now thats dangerous!

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 08:03

    rubbergoat, thats made me put faith in UK railways. now thats dangerous!

    Hah!

    It's not as bad as the UK - stuff still works etc, but we ain't far off!

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 08:07

    To NXEA's credit, they do have a policy of refunding you part for the journey if it's delayed by 1hr or more. That's more of a regulator rule though.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 08:10

    The funny part is, what with all the snow I have been late every day for nearly two months now. DSB paid me some money to my bank and then sent a letter asking us to pay half back because they paid us twice!

    That's funny and irritating all at the same time.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 08:34

    The funny part is, what with all the snow I have been late every day for nearly two months now. DSB paid me some money to my bank and then sent a letter asking us to pay half back because they paid us twice!

    That's funny and irritating all at the same time.

    Indeed.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 09:03

    Morning all.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 09:12

    Morning all.

    Morning :)

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 09:14

    I have a wordpress question... What's the difference between Categories and Tags?

    I kind of have a feeling that perhaps for me categories would be things like "Articles", "Fiction", "Archive". And then tags might be lots of things mentioned in the article? Is that right?

    Basically I think I might be supposed to move some of my categories into tags?

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 09:15

    I have a wordpress question... What's the difference between Categories and Tags?

    Mr C and I have this argument on a regular basis, and the middle ground we've sort of come to is that categories are all articles on a theme (for instance here would be F1 Debrief and Guest Posts) whilst tags are all key words from within the post for searchability (so could also be F1 Debrief but would also include things like Podcast, News, Ted Kravitz, Twitter, etc, etc).

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 09:18

    Mr C and I have this argument on a regular basis, and the middle ground we've sort of come to is that categories are all articles on a theme (for instance here would be F1 Debrief and Guest Posts) whilst tags are all key words from within the post for searchability (so could also be F1 Debrief but would also include things like Podcast, News, Ted Kravitz, Twitter, etc, etc).

    I think that makes sense. But for example say I was talking about the continuing story "The Empty Vessel" (Part 3 is out on Friday). Previously there was only one kind of thing (called Labels) so that would have had the Labels, "Fiction", "Long", "The Empty Vessel". My thinking being that you might want to go to a page which gave you all of any of those three things. So are they all still categories or is only now fiction a category?

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 09:20

    I have a wordpress question... What's the difference between Categories and Tags?

    In my theme, it seems that categories can group posts on a handy page while it's harder to do this with tags...

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 09:20

    Morning all.

    Morning Christine.

    Thursdays are rubbish. Just had a work based Tremayne :(

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 09:21

    In my theme, it seems that categories can group posts on a handy page while it's harder to do this with tags...

    In that case I think they all need to still be categories because a pretty obvious use case is, "I want to see all of the parts of this story".

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 09:21

    So are they all still categories or is only now fiction a category?

    I think that ends up being a style choice for you. For instance, here, we put things under multiple categories sometimes. The launch posts are going under News and Launches, because we want it to be a breakout but also it's a launch.

    On STYA, I have one blog category, one Baby Panda, one Film Watch and I only put them in one.

    It depends what you want to do, how you want to link to things, etc. I think in Wordpress you can have sub-categories as well, but I don't like that.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 09:22

    In my theme, it seems that categories can group posts on a handy page while it's harder to do this with tags...

    You can link to posts within a category and you can link to posts within a tag, but to actually embed within a page might be harder, I don't know.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 09:24

    In my theme, it seems that categories can group posts on a handy page while it's harder to do this with tags...

    You can link to posts within a category and you can link to posts within a tag, but to actually embed within a page might be harder, I don't know.

    I have always preferred categories because it fits within a column widget quite nicely: http://f1numbers.wordpress.com/category/fantasy-racers/

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 09:26

    Blimey that Dave Gorman and I have been on the same track since forever... I just incorporated a post about Googlewacks I did back in 2003...

    http://gamboling.co.uk/2003/12/30/out-of-the-3-billion-pages-there-is-only-1-page-that-matches/

    Crazy...

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 09:27

    Crazy...

    It no longer is a googlewack though, there are 134 posts with those words in it now.

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:06

    I have a bad feeling my friend may have just talked me into coming back to London in 2012.

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:10

    don't tell christine, but joe went to see the renault livery up close and quite liked it:

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/testing-and-other-stuff/

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:11

    don't tell christine, but joe went to see the renault livery up close and quite liked it:

    WHAT?

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:11

    don't tell christine, but joe went to see the renault livery up close and quite liked it:

    WHAT?

    #confidential

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:13

    #confidential

    I can conclude the only reasonable course of action is for me to go and see the Renault up close as well.

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:13

    I can conclude the only reasonable course of action is for me to go and see the Renault up close as well.

    #Spa?

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:15

    I can conclude the only reasonable course of action is for me to go and see the Renault up close as well.

    you want to go back to paris?

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:15

    you want to go back to paris?

    Oh. No. Perhaps they could bring it to me?

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:15

    #Spa?

    That is still a long time away.

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:15

    you want to go back to paris?

    perhaps this is permission for you to go to Spain?

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 10:17

    Oh. No. Perhaps they could bring it to me?

    helicopter delivery to rockall?

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:19

    helicopter delivery to rockall?

    Mr C can have a word with Eric, and it'll be a done deal.

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:20

    so now that I've been talked into it, who wants to come to the Olympics with me :D :D

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 10:21

    so now that I've been talked into it, who wants to come to the Olympics with me :D :D

    Apparently it's going to be an easy train ride for me. They are building a train line that will not be useful to me at any other time but during the olympics I will require no changes at all to get there - I think.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:22

    Apparently it's going to be an easy train ride for me. They are building a train line that will not be useful to me at any other time but during the olympics I will require no changes at all to get there - I think.

    No excuse then!

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:23

    Apparently it's going to be an easy train ride for me. They are building a train line that will not be useful to me at any other time but during the olympics I will require no changes at all to get there - I think.

    The simple mention of the tennis being held at Wimbledon and the fact that clearly Roger is going to complete his golden slam was enough to make me decide I must be there :D

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:24

    Apparently it's going to be an easy train ride for me. They are building a train line that will not be useful to me at any other time but during the olympics I will require no changes at all to get there - I think.

    are you guys planning something that won't be happening for another two YEARS?

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 10:25

    so now that I've been talked into it, who wants to come to the Olympics with me :D :D

    Me.

    Morning.

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:25

    are you guys planning something that won't be happening for another two YEARS?

    I am far away. I need to save lots of money. I don't know what his excuse is ;)

  • Kathi04/02/2010 at 10:25

    The simple mention of the tennis being held at Wimbledon and the fact that clearly Roger is going to complete his golden slam was enough to make me decide I must be there :D

    If you come early, you could stop-by in Finland and go to the rally.

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:26

    If you come early, you could stop-by in Finland and go to the rally.

    oooh

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:27

    I am far away. I need to save lots of money. I don't know what his excuse is ;)

    it can't possibly cost more than watching x3 grand prix in a month?

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:28

    it can't possibly cost more than watching x3 grand prix in a month?

    this is true. I am assuming that olympic tennis is cheaper than Proper Wimbledon tennis too because no one even seems to realise that tennis is in the olympics, its never ever on the TV coverage.

  • Kathi04/02/2010 at 10:28

    Nick has finally signed his test contract with Mercedes: http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/nick-heidfeld-ersatzfahrer-bei-mercedes-gp-1724234.html

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:29

    Nick has finally signed his test contract with Mercedes: http://www.aut...cedes-gp-1724234.html

    Reservepilot sounds so much cooler than in English.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 10:29

    Morning everyone

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 10:30

    are you guys planning something that won't be happening for another two YEARS?

    I'm not planning anything honest!

    It was just that I suddenly realised that at Crystal Palace train station they are supposed to be adding a new train line in May and there are lots of signs up etc. So I was curious...

    "Where does the new line go?"

    "To East London."

    "Oh... I don't ever go to East London"

    "Oh but the Olympics is in East London."

    "But not for two years".

    And then Amy mentioned it.

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 10:30

    And then Amy mentioned it.

    tickets go on sale 2011! ;)

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 10:31

    Nick has finally signed his test contract with Mercedes: http://www.aut...cedes-gp-1724234.html

    Right team, shame he's a test driver. Passed over at 32! I do hope the guys bringing the cash are worth it...

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 10:38

    Morning everyone

    morning

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:50

    Had to use the stoopid retweet button.

    *stomps about it a bit*

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 10:51

    Had to use the stoopid retweet button.

    I blame Thursday

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 10:52

    Had to use the stoopid retweet button.

    Had to?

    I've found it doesn't tell you when someone retweeted you. The only way I know Mr C retweeted me at all the other day was when the RT showed up in my other account, it didn't show at all in the original account.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:52

    *stomps about it a bit*

    That should say *stomps about a bit*

    I didn't stomp 'about it' like some ritual around a campfire.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 10:52

    Had to use the stoopid retweet button.

    *stomps about it a bit*

    But it was about the archers so that makes up for it.

    Out of all of the things from the archers that I would most like to be real is Tom Archer's sausages. Because... Well I'd like to eat them :)

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:53

    Had to?

    Would have been completely impossible to shrink the tweet.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 10:53

    I didn't stomp 'about it' like some ritual around a campfire.

    or dancing around a handbag

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:54

    Would have been completely impossible to shrink the tweet.

    same problem i have :(

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:54

    Had to?

    I've found it doesn't tell you when someone retweeted you. The only way I know Mr C retweeted me at all the other day was when the RT showed up in my other account, it didn't show at all in the original account.

    There is a retweet tab that tells you all kinds of things like who you've retweeted, and who's retweeted you, but it's just another place to have to look.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:54

    Out of all of the things from the archers that I would most like to be real is Tom Archer's sausages. Because... Well I'd like to eat them :)

    Oooh, that's a good game. I have a think.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 10:55

    Are we doing a Nick breakout?

  • Rich04/02/2010 at 10:55

    Right team, shame he's a test driver. Passed over at 32! I do hope the guys bringing the cash are worth it...

    a good insurance policy for Mercedes though!

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:56

    Reservepilot sounds so much cooler than in English.

    i thought heikki was cool when he jumped the barrier. this is awesome!

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/heidfeld-mercedes-gp-ersatzfahrer-1712651.html

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 10:56

    i thought heikki was cool when he jumped the barrier. this is awesome!

    He needs a car bonnet to slide across

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:57

    Right team, shame he's a test driver. Passed over at 32! I do hope the guys bringing the cash are worth it...

    the timing isn't coincidental though is it? the day after schumi quits a full day test earlier than everyone else?

    did mercedes panic?

  • me04/02/2010 at 10:57

    He needs a car bonnet to slide across

    :)

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 10:57

    did mercedes panic?

    he looks very tired

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 10:59

    Would have been completely impossible to shrink the tweet.

    The button is a nice idea, if only it worked properly

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 11:00

    There is a retweet tab that tells you all kinds of things like who you've retweeted, and who's retweeted you, but it's just another place to have to look.

    On the website? I hardly ever use it now. I was trying to do things on it last night and it wouldn't load properly.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:00

    On the website? I hardly ever use it now. I was trying to do things on it last night and it wouldn't load properly.

    Yea, it's an option down the right hand side.

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:00

    he looks very tired

    do we need a breakout for nick. he's only a test driver, but it might spark a bunch of debate.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:01

    do we need a breakout for nick. he's only a test driver, but it might spark a bunch of debate.

    I asked five minutes ago and was ignored, so I figured not.

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:01

    I asked five minutes ago and was ignored, so I figured not.

    ooh, i didn't see it.

    says it all :)

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 11:03

    Are we doing a Nick breakout?

    I wonder what Mr C will think?

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 11:03

    do we need a breakout for nick. he's only a test driver, but it might spark a bunch of debate.

    :)

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:03

    I wonder what Mr C will think?

    shhh!

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:03

    ooh, i didn't see it.

    Hehehe, it's okay, it happens a lot. Sometimes I must be either invisible or horrendously dull, but it's my site and you can't get rid of me :)

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:04

    Hehehe, it's okay, it happens a lot. Sometimes I must be either invisible or horrendously dull, but it's my site and you can't get rid of me :)

    :)

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 11:05

    shhh!

    heh...

    By the way you asked when the archives of my site would be up... 2003 is up now. Man I write a lot!

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:06

    By the way you asked when the archives of my site would be up... 2003 is up now. Man I write a lot!

    ace.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 11:06

    By the way you asked when the archives of my site would be up... 2003 is up now. Man I write a lot!

    For reference it took me 2 hours to do 3 months of archives!

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:10

    For reference it took me 2 hours to do 3 months of archives!

    Oh so worth it.

  • Jeremy04/02/2010 at 11:14

    Hehehe, it's okay, it happens a lot. Sometimes I must be either invisible or horrendously dull....:)

    Lies!

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:19

    i did it anyways: http://sidepodcast.com/2010/02/04/nick-heidfeld-accepts-third-driver-role/

    #lovesyouchristine

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 11:23

    Reservepilot sounds so much cooler than in English.

    i thought heikki was cool when he jumped the barrier. this is awesome!

    http://www.aut...tzfahrer-1712651.html

    Action Nick!

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 11:23

    the timing isn't coincidental though is it? the day after schumi quits a full day test earlier than everyone else?

    Why did he do that though?

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 11:24

    do we need a breakout for nick. he's only a test driver, but it might spark a bunch of debate.

    I asked five minutes ago and was ignored, so I figured not.

    And therein lies the rub with Nick - nice guy, consistent, good team player, but completely forgotten about...

  • Paul Convery04/02/2010 at 11:26

    the timing isn't coincidental though is it? the day after schumi quits a full day test earlier than everyone else?

    Why did he do that though?

    Mercedes had a hydraulics problem which stopped Schumi early. But he had already done 80+ laps had he not? They just missed the last hour.

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:34

    another break-out to keep people occupied: http://sidepodcast.com/2010/02/04/bbc-announce-plans-for-2010-formula-1-coverage/

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:34

    another break-out to keep people occupied: http://sidepod...0-formula-1-coverage/

    (and when i say occupied, i mean organised)

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 11:35

    another break-out to keep people occupied: http://sidepod...0-formula-1-coverage/

    Ooh good thinking to have a breakout for that.

    Although I hate to do this twice in five mins but you have two links to J.Legard's Twitter...

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:36

    Ooh good thinking to have a breakout for that.

    Although I hate to do this twice in five mins but you have two links to J.Legard's Twitter...

    no worries. i fix.

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:36

    wow. posts a re coming thick and fast today. are we going for a record?

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:37

    wow. posts a re coming thick and fast today. are we going for a record?

    Do we know the record?

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:37

    Do we know the record?

    sidepodradio, i'd guess.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:37

    sidepodradio, i'd guess.

    Oh yea. We'll never beat that.

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:38

    Oh yea. We'll never beat that.

    until next time...

  • James04/02/2010 at 11:38

    Ooh good thinking to have a breakout for that.

    Although I hate to do this twice in five mins but you have two links to J.Legard's Twitter...

    I read his tweets and I can hear his voice in my head. 8O

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 11:39

    Ooh good thinking to have a breakout for that.

    Although I hate to do this twice in five mins but you have two links to J.Legard's Twitter...

    I read his tweets and I can hear his voice in my head. 8O

    LOOK AT THAT! IT'S A MICROBLOGGING SERVICE!

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 11:39

    Do we know the record?

    sidepodradio, i'd guess.

    Apart from that, I think it is something like 8 or 9. May have been a race weekend with news, race/session reports and podcasts. Back end of the season.

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 11:39

    You are bright and breezy - I am still pondering the thought of double dose of schumacher tonic to the F1 cocktail. {Comment #32}

    NO! Please, no! One Schumacher makes me annoyed enough at this juncture...

  • James04/02/2010 at 11:40

    LOOK AT THAT! IT'S A MICROBLOGGING SERVICE!

    Ahh, don't!! :D

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:42

    Apart from that, I think it is something like 8 or 9. May have been a race weekend with news, race/session reports and podcasts. Back end of the season.

    Interesting. We are up to five, so a little way to go yet.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 11:43

    Interesting. We are up to five, so a little way to go yet.

    I can't remember when it was though! And I think there was a lot of news.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 11:43

    Interesting. We are up to five, so a little way to go yet.

    #confidential If I did mine that would be 3 right?

  • me04/02/2010 at 11:44

    #confidential If I did mine that would be 3 right?

    wouldn't they be backdated?

    and you has work to do!

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:44

    #confidential If I did mine that would be 3 right?

    Depends if you want them historically accurate or not.

    #confidential

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 11:45

    #confidential If I did mine that would be 3 right?

    wouldn't they be backdated?

    and you has work to do!

    doh!

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 11:46

    this is true. I am assuming that olympic tennis is cheaper than Proper Wimbledon tennis too because no one even seems to realise that tennis is in the olympics, its never ever on the TV coverage. {Comment #100}

    If I remember correctly, Olympic tennis is cheap - but Paralympic tennis is even cheaper. Federer won't be in the latter though...

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 11:47

    I do have another couple of posts to write today, and if Mr C is going to do an anti-Franck one, then that will help too.

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 11:53

    Nick has finally signed his test contract with Mercedes: {Comment #101}

    Mercedes have a good tester there, but I still think Nick would be better positioned if he was in an actual F1 race...

  • Flabbergash04/02/2010 at 12:21

    Mercedes have a good tester there, but I still think Nick would be better positioned if he was in an actual F1 race...

    I'm willing to bet anything up to £7 that he's relying on Michael to get injured sometime throughout the year, thus stepping in

  • Flabbergash04/02/2010 at 12:21

    also, afternoon all

  • James04/02/2010 at 12:24

    i have decided I'm not going to revive my f1 loonie blog, but instead start a new one where I will hopefully blog a lot more :) now to think of a name *puts thinking cap on*

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 12:30

    Oh my word. Why does Shumi have number 3?

  • Jon "Is Not Very Observant" Waldock04/02/2010 at 12:30

    Oh my word. Why does Shumi have number 3?

    have you been living in a cave?

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 12:31

    Oh my word. Why does Shumi have number 3?

    have you been living in a cave?

    No, she went to Dubai and Abu Dhabi, who are clearly F1-mad!

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 12:31

    So I was passing BBC News on my way to BBC Sport's F1 page and found this:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8497433.stm

    Now the song is stuck in my head

  • me04/02/2010 at 12:31

    Oh my word. Why does Shumi have number 3?

    someone has fallen behind on her f1 minute episodes:

    http://www.f1minute.com/2010/01/21/20-jan-10-schumacher-takes-3-from-rosberg/

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 12:31

    have you been living in a cave?

    :(

    I work a lot!

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 12:32

    So I was passing BBC News on my way to BBC Sport's F1 page and found this:

    http://news.bb...rtainment/8497433.stm

    Now the song is stuck in my head

    Good song that :)

  • me04/02/2010 at 12:33

    I work a lot!

    in fairness, you went on holiday around that time didn't ya? we has discussed it a lot though.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 12:33

    So I was passing BBC News on my way to BBC Sport's F1 page and found this:

    http://news.bb...rtainment/8497433.stm

    Now the song is stuck in my head

    Safety Dance is stuck in my head too

    Do-do-dodo-do dodo do

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 12:34

    in fairness, you went on holiday around that time didn't ya? we has discussed it a lot though.

    Ah okay. I was watching a video and it suddenly struck me as odd...

  • Jon "Is Not Very Observant" Waldock04/02/2010 at 12:34

    So I get a lot of emails from World Series By Renault from their media people, and so today I get one with the subject;

    "New Formula Renault 2.0 - Testing"

    oooh, interesting i thought..opened up the email...

    in big text "An invitation to experience"

    i get a little bit more excited

    read on aaand.....

    oh, its for drivers. boo

    thought it was for media. gah

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 12:34

    Oh my word. Why does Shumi have number 3?

    In fairness... why does Shumi have number 3? :-)

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 12:35

    Safety Dance is stuck in my head too

    Oops, they're talking about Down Under. Must.read..before.singing.safety.dance.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 12:35

    in fairness, you went on holiday around that time didn't ya? we has discussed it a lot though.

    Ah okay. I was watching a video and it suddenly struck me as odd...

    S'alright - Nick announced on Tuesday that De La Rosa had signed for Sauber! ;)

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 12:36

    S'alright - Nick announced on Tuesday that De La Rosa had signed for Sauber! ;)

    Awww poor overworked Nick :P

  • me04/02/2010 at 12:36

    Awww poor overworked Nick :P

    he's overworked? are you sure he's not just struggling to come to terms with... work.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 12:37

    Awww poor overworked Nick :P

    he's overworked? are you sure he's not just struggling to come to terms with... work.

    From my conversations with people who have worked in Qatar, a lot of companies can be very ... relaxed ;)

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 12:39

    he's overworked? are you sure he's not just struggling to come to terms with... work.

    Shockingly I'd say he works very hard :P

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 12:43

    From my conversations with people who have worked in Qatar, a lot of companies can be very ... relaxed ;)

    Hmmm I'd say it's a mixed bag. It's one thing to say that you can arrive and leave when you want. If you give someone more work than can be accomplished in a reasonable working day though, it doesn't really make much difference.

    The management of his company to my ears in pure insanity. There's no direction or continuity of goals one day to the next.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 12:44

    Hmmm I'd say it's a mixed bag. It's one thing to say that you can arrive and leave when you want. If you give someone more work than can be accomplished in a reasonable working day though, it doesn't really make much difference.

    I agree with that. I used to work flexi-time, which was nice, but you do tend to work more hours than required...

    The management of his company to my ears in pure insanity. There's no direction or continuity of goals one day to the next.

    :(

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 12:44

    Awww poor overworked Nick :P

    he should move to a nice place in the sun, get away from it all

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 12:46

    :(

    It doesn't seem to bother him. I don't know. It all seems horrifically inefficient to me.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 12:47

    The management of his company to my ears in pure insanity. There's no direction or continuity of goals one day to the next.

    hm :-(

  • Tom G04/02/2010 at 12:47

    Afternoon.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 12:50

    he should move to a nice place in the sun, get away from it all

    Hehehe sounds like fun.

  • James04/02/2010 at 13:04

    just found this interview with fernando, in which he admits he is working on his imitation of Luca di Montezemolo :D

    but I like this part the most:

    In percentage, how much do the car and the driver count?

    «Let’s say the car is 70 percent and the driver 30? But if the cars are the same it’s the opposite.»

    http://www.ferrari.com/English/News/Pages/100203_F1_Ferrari_tornare_bambino.aspx

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 13:10

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJxN7AK9qA0

    This is how Motorsport video's should be made

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 13:18

    This is how Motorsport video's should be made

    Epic. Wow. And Audi made this?! In a year Peugeot won??

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 13:25

    Le Mans 24 Hours entry list is out.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81272

    Audi:

    McNish/Kristensen/Capello

    Rockenfeller/Bernhard/Dumas

    Fassler/Lotterer/Treluyer

    Peugeot has only announced lead drivers for each car: Minassian, Wurz and Bourdais.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 13:27

    Le Mans 24 Hours entry list is out.

    The McKrisCap combo is the only identical one from last year for Audi, it seems.

    Other key names in the entry list:

    #5 Beechdean-Mansell Ginetta-Zytek Z09R Nigel Mansell, Leo Mansell, Greg Mansell

    #13 Rebellion Lola B10/60-Rebeillion Nicolas Prost, Neel Jani, TBA

    #14 Kolles Audi R10 TDi Christijan Albers, TBA, TBA

    Pat, will the Astons this year still be Prodrive-run?

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 13:33

    Pat, will the Astons this year still be Prodrive-run?

    I'd expect so.

    This'll be a car to watch too:

    #4 ORECA Peugeot 908 HDi Olivier Panis, Nicolas Lapierre, TBA

    and here's the newly-announced Renault reserve driver:

    #17 Pescarolo 01-Judd Ho-Pin Tung, TBA, TBA

    Very happy to see Highcroft get an entry too.

  • me04/02/2010 at 13:35

    thread fail?

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 13:36

    thread fail?

    Ahh poo, sorry :(

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 13:36

    #5 Beechdean-Mansell Ginetta-Zytek Z09R Nigel Mansell, Leo Mansell, Greg Mansell

    So Mansell and his kids got an entry. The lap time difference between them should be interesting

  • Amy04/02/2010 at 13:47

    Legard appears to be continuing his morph into John Lithgow

    Legard is the Trinity Killer, duh-duh duuuuuuuuuuum

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 13:50

    #5 Beechdean-Mansell Ginetta-Zytek Z09R Nigel Mansell, Leo Mansell, Greg Mansell

    So Mansell and his kids got an entry. The lap time difference between them should be interesting

    Having two young guys and an old head is a good combo. Remember the post about Stefan Bellof how he would go and charge off into the distance and then a more experienced guy would stroke the car home? It's a good idea for an endurance team...

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 13:51

    Having two young guys and an old head is a good combo. Remember the post about Stefan Bellof how he would go and charge off into the distance and then a more experienced guy would stroke the car home? It's a good idea for an endurance team...

    It is if the younger guys are any good.....

    #confidential ;)

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 13:53

    It is if the younger guys are any good.....

    Am I right in saying one is fairly middle-ranking, and the other quite bad?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 13:53

    Having two young guys and an old head is a good combo. Remember the post about Stefan Bellof how he would go and charge off into the distance and then a more experienced guy would stroke the car home? It's a good idea for an endurance team...

    At least one of Mansell's kids is completely incapable of charging off anywhere. I would expect the old guy to be the fast guy in this team.

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 13:53

    Am I right in saying one is fairly middle-ranking, and the other quite bad?

    tis quite a high possibility yes.

    one of them has just signed for WSR again which i find an incredible move

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:03

    Am I right in saying one is fairly middle-ranking, and the other quite bad?

    tis quite a high possibility yes.

    one of them has just signed for WSR again which i find an incredible move

    His surname is Mansell?

    It worked for Senna and Piquet, no?

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 14:04

    His surname is Mansell?

    still annoys me though, plus mini senna and mini piquet are still alot better than mini mansell

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 14:04

    one of them has just signed for WSR again which i find an incredible move

    how many years has it been now?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:04

    It worked for Senna and Piquet, no?

    They are both way way better than the Mansell jrs. One of them would struggle to charge of in a tantrum

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 14:05

    how many years has it been now?

    too many

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 14:06

    how many years has it been now?

    too many

    driver database only says 1, but i cant believe thats right

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:09

    how many years has it been now?

    too many

    driver database only says 1, but i cant believe thats right

    Maybe it's lots of partial seasons added together?

    I am surprised Mansell has done this - I remember in one of his books, he said he would discourage his kids from entering the sport...

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 14:15

    Maybe it's lots of partial seasons added together?

    thats what i though, but db usually has part seasons. dunno. anywho, he hasnt ever won a race and highest ever 10th in a championship

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:15

    I am surprised Mansell has done this - I remember in one of his books, he said he would discourage his kids from entering the sport...

    Most racing drivers say that but once the kids start racing they can't help getting involved.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 14:16

    driver database only says 1, but i cant believe thats right

    so does Forix. I was sure it was longer but no, they were both in Atlantics in '08.

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 14:16

    I am surprised Mansell has done this - I remember in one of his books, he said he would discourage his kids from entering the sport...

    Most racing drivers say that but once the kids start racing they can't help getting involved.

    i remember him saying he wouldnt push them into it, but if your dads an f1 wdc then you're going to want to race

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 14:16

    thats what i though, but db usually has part seasons. dunno. anywho, he hasnt ever won a race and highest ever 10th in a championship

    If I remember though, Nige's junior career wasn't stellar either, so I can see why he's pushing.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 14:18

    If I remember though, Nige's junior career wasn't stellar either, so I can see why he's pushing.

    Forix says he didn't win either - times were different then of course

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:18

    thats what i though, but db usually has part seasons. dunno. anywho, he hasnt ever won a race and highest ever 10th in a championship

    If I remember though, Nige's junior career wasn't stellar either, so I can see why he's pushing.

    And they may end up being better sportscar drivers as consistency trumps speed...

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:18

    If I remember though, Nige's junior career wasn't stellar either, so I can see why he's pushing.

    Not quite true. His FFord career was incredible then he landed on his head and broke his neck. His F3 career was nothing special.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:20

    wikipedia sums up the sons' careers nicely.

    In FBMW, the brothers disappointed, however, with Greg managing just 13 points, and Leo not managing any, while champion Niall Breen amassed 305.

    It civers the rest of their careers too but this is a good guide t their ability

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Mansell

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 14:25

    Not quite true. His FFord career was incredible then he landed on his head and broke his neck. His F3 career was nothing special.

    Ah. Forix doesn't cover FFord

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:27

    From his wikipedia page

    After considerable success in kart racing, he moved to the Formula Ford series to the disapproval of his father. In 1976, Mansell won 6 of the 9 races he took part in, including his debut event at Mallory Park. He entered 42 races the following year and won 33 to become the 1977 British Formula Ford champion, despite suffering a broken neck in a qualifying session at Brands Hatch. Doctors told him he had been perilously close to quadriplegia, that he would be confined for six months and would never drive again. Mansell discharged himself from the hospital and returned to racing. Three weeks before the accident he had resigned his job as an aerospace engineer, having previously sold most of his personal belongings to finance his foray into Formula Ford.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:29

    From his wikipedia page

    After considerable success in kart racing, he moved to the Formula Ford series to the disapproval of his father. In 1976, Mansell won 6 of the 9 races he took part in, including his debut event at Mallory Park. He entered 42 races the following year and won 33 to become the 1977 British Formula Ford champion, despite suffering a broken neck in a qualifying session at Brands Hatch. Doctors told him he had been perilously close to quadriplegia, that he would be confined for six months and would never drive again. Mansell discharged himself from the hospital and returned to racing. Three weeks before the accident he had resigned his job as an aerospace engineer, having previously sold most of his personal belongings to finance his foray into Formula Ford.

    I don't think Lewis Hamilton ever had to do that...

  • Stuart C04/02/2010 at 14:30

    wikipedia sums up the sons' careers nicely.

    And yet it doesn't say "Couldn't drive a soapy stick up a dog's a**e..."

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 14:30

    I don't think Lewis Hamilton ever had to do that...

    That's not to do with him though. People can't help who they're born to....

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:31

    wikipedia sums up the sons' careers nicely.

    And yet it doesn't say "Couldn't drive a soapy stick up a dog's a**e..."

    That might have been moderated ;)

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:31

    I don't think Lewis Hamilton ever had to do that...

    There is a book in all the things drivers have done to finance their careers. There are some crazy stories in there. I remember two FFord drivers in the 80s who spent the winter working 16 hour shifts in an Australian mine to finance their racing. Can't remember who they were though.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:32

    That might have been moderated ;)

    Fantastic image BTW!

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:32

    I don't think Lewis Hamilton ever had to do that...

    There is a book in all the things drivers have done to finance their careers. There are some crazy stories in there. I remember two FFord drivers in the 80s who spent the winter working 16 hour shifts in an Australian mine to finance their racing. Can't remember who they were though.

    That would have got them some good money!

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 14:32

    I don't think Lewis Hamilton ever had to do that...

    That's not to do with him though. People can't help who they're born to....

    I'm pretty sure the Hamiltons were another run of the mill family

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:33

    That's not to do with him though. People can't help who they're born to....

    The other side of that argument is that Lewis Hamilton had to do a lot more to get a GP drive

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 14:33

    I'm pretty sure the Hamiltons were another run of the mill family

    They must have found money from somewhere.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:33

    I'm pretty sure the Hamiltons were another run of the mill family

    They are. But what I meant was, they had McLaren money from when was it? 13?

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 14:33

    And yet it doesn't say "Couldn't drive a soapy stick up a dog's a**e..."

    I don't think Lewis Hamilton ever had to do that...

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:34

    And yet it doesn't say "Couldn't drive a soapy stick up a dog's a**e..."

    I don't think Lewis Hamilton ever had to do that...

    Maybe that's why Alonso and Hamilton fell out at McLaren ;)

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 14:35

    They must have found money from somewhere.

    Mclaren came in because Lewis was alot better than everyone else

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:35

    That would have got them some good money!

    I think it paid for their full season. I remember reading about it in Autosport(not capitalised in those days). Some driver had been whingeing about having no money to race and it was pointed out he could follow those two and work down a mine but I think this was one of the permatan brigade who thought the world owed him a racing career and hard work was not an option. If only people put their mags on the net and made them searchable.

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 14:36

    Maybe that's why Alonso and Hamilton fell out at McLaren ;)

    but Bruno Senna certainly tried something like it

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:37

    I'm pretty sure the Hamiltons were another run of the mill family

    But Anthony was a smart operator. Also something that is not mentioned much is that Martin Hines spotted Lewis at his first ever kart race and offered to help so they had great contacts literally from day 1

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 14:37

    And yet it doesn't say "Couldn't drive a soapy stick up a dog's a**e..."

    well.. the beauty of wikipedia is that anyone can edit it..

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:37

    They must have found money from somewhere.

    Anthony had three jobs and then there was the McLaren link

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 14:37

    They must have found money from somewhere.

    He met Ron.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 14:37

    Maybe that's why Alonso and Hamilton fell out at McLaren ;)

    but Bruno Senna certainly tried something like it

    So when he applied to Campos and they asked him how quick he was, maybe he said "Never mind a soapy stick, I have done it it with a front wing!"

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:37

    I don't think Lewis Hamilton ever had to do that...

    But if he had to I am sure he could

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:39

    So when he applied to Campos and they asked him how quick he was, maybe he said "Never mind a soapy stick, I have done it it with a front wing!"

    Stefan Johannson used a front wing with a deer but he was getting slgged off earlier.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 14:39

    Anthony had three jobs and then there was the McLaren link

    Yeah. I guess the difference is that his dad made the sacrifices. He's lucky to have someone that would do that for him.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:42

    Yeah. I guess the difference is that his dad made the sacrifices. He's lucky to have someone that would do that for him.

    Most of the top drivers have had parents spend a fortune on their careers. That is one of the reasons it really bugs me when people complain about fathers hanging around F1. They deserve it with the sacrifices they made.

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 14:42

    @lucasdigrassi Silverstone.. muuuuito frio

    Lucas doesn't like the British weather it seems, I forgot all about Virgin being on track today

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 14:50

    Most of the top drivers have had parents spend a fortune on their careers. That is one of the reasons it really bugs me when people complain about fathers hanging around F1. They deserve it with the sacrifices they made.

    Jeff Gordon gets a lot of crap here in the states because his dad is rich. Lots of "well, if his daddy didn't have money, Jeff wouldn't have gotten anywhere" that sort of thing.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 14:55

    Jeff Gordon gets a lot of crap here in the states because his dad is rich. Lots of "well, if his daddy didn't have money, Jeff wouldn't have gotten anywhere" that sort of thing.

    It's like people believe daddy's money made him faster. I've seen that a lot.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:00

    Quotes have emerged on Autosport:

    "The 2010 entry is just the beginning. We're here for the long haul and have our sights firmly set on becoming on of the leading teams in international endurance racing, and winning the Le Mans 24 Hours in the near future."

    He thinks he can beat Audi and Peugeot in a few years. Not.Gonna.Happen.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 15:00

    Quotes have emerged on Autosport:

    "The 2010 entry is just the beginning. We're here for the long haul and have our sights firmly set on becoming on of the leading teams in international endurance racing, and winning the Le Mans 24 Hours in the near future."

    He thinks he can beat Audi and Peugeot in a few years. Not.Gonna.Happen.

    Who said this? Mansell?

    Is he... nuts?!

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:02

    Who said this? Mansell?

    Mansell Snr http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81276

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:02

    Is he... nuts?!

    I mean the first part is fair enough, I'm all for it. But winning? nah.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 15:03

    I mean the first part is fair enough, I'm all for it. But winning? nah.

    Franck's turn first.

  • RubberGoat04/02/2010 at 15:04

    Jeff Gordon gets a lot of crap here in the states because his dad is rich. Lots of "well, if his daddy didn't have money, Jeff wouldn't have gotten anywhere" that sort of thing.

    It's like people believe daddy's money made him faster. I've seen that a lot.

    I wouldn't say that, but it certainly helps when you have the cash - look at Petrov (as mentioned by Joe)...

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 15:10

    Quotes have emerged on Autosport:

    "The 2010 entry is just the beginning. We're here for the long haul and have our sights firmly set on becoming on of the leading teams in international endurance racing, and winning the Le Mans 24 Hours in the near future."

    He thinks he can beat Audi and Peugeot in a few years. Not.Gonna.Happen.

    When the green flag drops the bull**** stops. Unfortunately until then we will be knee deep in it

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 15:11

    Franck's turn first.

    There is more chance of Franck winning ten times that the Mansell mob ever making a podium

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 15:12

    Does this mean USF1 aren't gonna be testing?

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81275

    "The car is quite late because we put a massive amount of development time into it," he explained. "We are taking our time and as a team we are confident we are on the right track.

    "As soon as we are through the crash tests, we will be doing a shakedown and going to Bahrain."

    Also mentions how Campos are looking a finalising a deal this week.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 15:16

    I wouldn't say that, but it certainly helps when you have the cash - look at Petrov (as mentioned by Joe)...

    It helps. There are a lot of great drivers who never got past F3 because they had no money. There was a guy called Dave Scott who was always near the top of F3 but never with the right team. When Hill, Blundell and co were dominating FFord there was another member of the top group called Jonathan Bancroft. his results were just as good as any of the others but he had no money so he ended up working for Benetton a few years after he stopped racing.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:16

    There is more chance of Franck winning ten times that the Mansell mob ever making a podium

    They'd be better off in LMP2, that field is often flaky enough. Not this year though. Highcroft will win this year.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 15:17

    Does this mean USF1 aren't gonna be testing?

    Looks like that to me. That also suggests if the car is that late they won't have time to put a model in the wind tunnel to check out their CFD data.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 15:28

    I am heading out. Hope the Mansells are not on the road as I don't need the hold up.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:29

    I like thursdays at work. less people around so i can take it a bit easy.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:31

    VBH is racing Abarth (Fiat) 500s this year :)

    http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2010/01/new-signing-announced-for-abarth-500-series/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+TheCheckeredFlag+(The+Checkered+Flag)&utm_content=Google+Reader

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 15:32

    I like thursdays at work. less people around so i can take it a bit easy.

    Ooh, that's good.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 15:36

    The Virgin Racing car out at Silverstone

    http://twitpic.com/11cdp8

    It's gone red again

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 15:41

    It's gone red again

    But the swirls on the front wing have gone yellow

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:42

    Woo hoo! No more work till Tuesday

    Hey folks

  • me04/02/2010 at 15:43

    It's gone red again

    didn't we establish the original piccy was just rubbish? i colour corrected the one on the homepage and notice autosport did the same.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 15:43

    Woo hoo! No more work till Tuesday

    Hey Bassano! No work til Monday for me. :D

  • me04/02/2010 at 15:43

    Hey folks

    chap.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:44

    Hey Bassano! No work til Monday for me. :D

    Long weekends rool

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 15:44

    didn't we establish the original piccy was just rubbish? i colour corrected the one on the homepage and notice autosport did the same.

    There were photos of it outside yesterday and it went orange again

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 15:44

    Long weekends rool

    FTW! Hehehehe.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:45

    Journeyer, you might know

    Is GP2 Asia on this weekend or did they abandon it completely?

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 15:45

    There were photos of it outside yesterday and it went orange again

    It must be very close to that weird red-orange shade Spyker originally had.

  • me04/02/2010 at 15:45

    didn't we establish the original piccy was just rubbish? i colour corrected the one on the homepage and notice autosport did the same.

    although have said that, their other twitpics do look quite orange:

    http://twitpic.com/116n27

    has it been painted in hypercolor??

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 15:46

    Journeyer, you might know

    Is GP2 Asia on this weekend or did they abandon it completely?

    A quick Google shows that there are preview quotes, so it must be on.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:46

    Journeyer, you might know

    Is GP2 Asia on this weekend or did they abandon it completely?

    Was it rumoured to be abandoned?

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:48

    Was it rumoured to be abandoned?

    I thought it was folding, maybe I just assumed it would happen

  • me04/02/2010 at 15:48

    http://twitpic.com/11cdp8

    who's driving btw?

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 15:48

    who's driving btw?

    Timo

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:48

    A quick Google shows that there are preview quotes, so it must be on.

    I'll have a look at the Eurosport channel website

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 15:48

    who's driving btw?

    Glock.

  • me04/02/2010 at 15:48

    Timo

    so he didn't go with the gold helmet?

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 15:49

    so he didn't go with the gold helmet?

    Looks like his traditional colors. But with the lighting so off, it's hard to be sure.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 15:49

    so he didn't go with the gold helmet?

    Looks like he's all Virgin'd up to me

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:49

    I thought it was folding, maybe I just assumed it would happen

    I hadn't heard that.. but I haven't been paying attention to it.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:50

    I hadn't heard that.. but I haven't been paying attention to it.

    I think it was when the schedule started reducing there was speculation it was doomed

  • me04/02/2010 at 15:52

    I think it was when the schedule started reducing there was speculation it was doomed

    will has a practice report up:

    http://willthef1journo.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/gp2-asia-filippi-leads-the-way-in-practice/

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 15:54

    Ooooh, Legard replies to people on twitter!

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 15:54

    Ooooh, Legard replies to people on twitter!

    PR Campaign to repair his reputation? :D

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:55

    Found it

    British Eurosport 2 are showing GP2 Asia on Sat at 14:00 and Sun at 17:30

    Caution: This is Abu Dhabi

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 15:56

    British Eurosport 2 are showing GP2 Asia on Sat at 14:00 and Sun at 17:30

    Caution: This is Abu Dhabi

    I like how it comes with a warning :)

  • me04/02/2010 at 15:56

    PR Campaign to repair his reputation? :D

    in fairness, this is a lot more than we get from brundle. i can't listen to legard,but at least he's trying.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 15:56

    in fairness, this is a lot more than we get from brundle. i can't listen to legard,but at least he's trying.

    Yup, no qualms from me concerning his twitter presence. Tis on TV where it starts to change :P

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:56

    I like how it comes with a warning :)

    The hotel lights might be offline ;)

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:57

    I think it was when the schedule started reducing there was speculation it was doomed

    ah right.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 15:58

    British Eurosport 2 are showing GP2 Asia on Sat at 14:00 and Sun at 17:30

    Caution: This is Abu Dhabi

    I think the races are on Friday and Saturday though, due to the local weekend..

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:58

    I think the races are on Friday and Saturday though, due to the local weekend..

    Indeed

    Schedule*

    Thursday 4th February

    18:00-18:30 – Free Practice Session

    20:30-21:00 – Qualifying Session

    Friday 5th February

    18:00-19:15 – Feature Race

    Saturday 6th February

    18:00-18:45 – Sprint Race

    * Local Time

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 15:59

    Yup, no qualms from me concerning his twitter presence. Tis on TV where it starts to change :P

    Oooh, qualms. Excellent word.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 15:59

    I think the races are on Friday and Saturday though, due to the local weekend..

    I wonder if Nick's going, he loves that place ;)

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 16:01

    Oooh, qualms. Excellent word.

    It's one of those words that is fun to say out loud, until you say it so many times it just starts sounding wierd.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 16:01

    in fairness, this is a lot more than we get from brundle. i can't listen to legard,but at least he's trying.

    I'm willing to give him another shot on TV. I watched the first few races with the BBC1 combo and it wasn't good, then spent much of the year with 5Live, and tried BBC1 again late in the year and he had improved. Not enough to listen to all the time, but he had. At least he's on an upward curve :)

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 16:02

    I'm willing to give him another shot on TV. I watched the first few races with the BBC1 combo and it wasn't good, then spent much of the year with 5Live, and tried BBC1 again late in the year and he had improved. Not enough to listen to all the time, but he had. At least he's on an upward curve :)

    I might too, but not at Singapore. Goodness me, that was a bad combination.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:04

    I'm willing to give him another shot on TV. I watched the first few races with the BBC1 combo and it wasn't good, then spent much of the year with 5Live...

    Is Ant back with 5Live this year?

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 16:04

    I might too, but not at Singapore. Goodness me, that was a bad combination.

    Mm! Thing is, I want to like him.

  • me04/02/2010 at 16:04

    Is Ant back with 5Live this year?

    http://sidepodcast.com/2010/02/04/bbc-announce-plans-for-2010-formula-1-coverage/

  • me04/02/2010 at 16:05

    http://sidepod...0-formula-1-coverage/

    ooh, link fail. soz:

    http://sidepodcast.com/2010/02/04/bbc-announce-plans-for-2010-formula-1-coverage/#comment-673605

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:05

    Is Ant back with 5Live this year?

    http://sidepod...0-formula-1-coverage/

    Ah ha!

    A thread for all occaasions. Ta

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 16:06

    Ah ha!

    A thread for all occaasions. Ta

    Are you on LCLT, Mr Bassano?

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:07

    Are you on LCLT, Mr Bassano?

    No, I just had no idea it was that detailed a launch from the beeb

    Was only vaguely aware they were doing something, not sure why they're launching instead of covering testing tbh

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 16:10

    No, I just had no idea it was that detailed a launch from the beeb

    Was only vaguely aware they were doing something, not sure why they're launching instead of covering testing tbh

    Oh, I guess there hasn't been a comment from that thread in a while, then. Didn't show up right away on doohickey?

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:11

    Oh, I guess there hasn't been a comment from that thread in a while, then. Didn't show up right away on doohickey?

    Folk were talking about Bob MacKenzie when i logged on but I was too busy looking into GP2 to read back

  • me04/02/2010 at 16:12

    Folk were talking about Bob MacKenzie when i logged on but I was too busy looking into GP2 to read back

    why the gp2 interest, and do we need a break out thread?

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:14

    why the gp2 interest, and do we need a break out thread?

    I've watched a few races over the last 2 years and it can be quite entertaining. I like trying to pick out the stars bound for F1

    Lewis had some great moments in his GP2 championship year

    Had set an iCal event for this weekend but had no idea if it was still going to be running (Asian races have been reduced to 2 circuits and a handful of weekends )

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:14

    ...do we need a break out thread?

    Shouldn't think so

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 16:16

    I've watched a few races over the last 2 years and it can be quite entertaining. I like trying to pick out the stars bound for F1

    Except for Pantano, all of the GP2 champions (even the last GP2 Asia champ Kobayashi) are in F1 now.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:17

    Except for Pantano, all of the GP2 champions (even the last GP2 Asia champ Kobayashi) are in F1 now.

    His mistake was dropping to a lower Formula after being underwhelming in F1

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 16:19

    His mistake was dropping to a lower Formula after being underwhelming in F1

    Not sure if he had much choice. I don't think he had the talent or funding to stay in F1 after he was dropped for Timo. The only other option I guess would've been a move to DTM, but that had no guarantees, either.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 16:20

    His mistake was dropping to a lower Formula after being underwhelming in F1

    worked for Glock

  • RG04/02/2010 at 16:20

    Not sure if he had much choice. I don't think he had the talent or funding to stay in F1 after he was dropped for Timo. The only other option I guess would've been a move to DTM, but that had no guarantees, either.

    I heard Timo mentioned.

    Hey everyone.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 16:20

    Hey everyone.

    Ello Mr RG.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:20

    Hey everyone.

    Hey RG

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 16:21

    Except for Pantano, all of the GP2 champions (even the last GP2 Asia champ Kobayashi) are in F1 now.

    a much better record than F3000!

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 16:21

    Hehe, before I disappear for a few hours just had my favourite Sidepodcast subtitle - http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/awesometitle-png :D

    Will be back later once I'vegot my head down and typed out another few thousand words hopefully. Byee!

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:21

    worked for Glock

    True

    He has a bit more talent I s'pose

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 16:22

    a much better record than F3000!

    Not to mention that GP2 can claim something that F3000 or F2 still doesn't have: a champion that also became F1 champion...

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 16:23

    It's one of those words that is fun to say out loud, until you say it so many times it just starts sounding wierd.

    qualms

    I know exactly what you mean. There is a very very surreal bit of comedy from Richard Herring where for 10 minutes he just says, "Mars Bar, is that right? A Mars Bar? That's a thing isn't it. Mars Bar, marsbar, you know marsbar. Is that a thing? I think it's a thing."

    It's something about words where they resonate on the roof of your mouth.

    Like if you say, "FebRUary" to explain how to spell it to somebody it's then very hard to say "February" normally right afterwards.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 16:24

    Except for Pantano, all of the GP2 champions (even the last GP2 Asia champ Kobayashi) are in F1 now.

    Which colour?

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 16:24

    Which colour?

    Not sure what you mean?

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:24

    Which colour?

    Is this a Pantene joke? ;)

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 16:25

    Is this a Pantene joke? ;)

    Yegads. :P

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 16:27

    Is this a Pantene joke? ;)

    I was going for Pantone http://www.surface-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/6-1-pantone.jpg

    But I'm not picky

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 16:27

    I was going for Pantone http://www.sur...09/08/6-1-pantone.jpg

    But I'm not picky

    OK, you get extra points for obscurity

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 16:34

    I was going for Pantone http://www.sur...09/08/6-1-pantone.jpg

    Oooh I can never work out if I like those cups or not....

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 16:36

    Oooh I can never work out if I like those cups or not....

    I don't want one because I would be awfully tempted to spend the rest of my life colour matching my tea a brown one. And if it didn't work then I'd clash and that would be bad!

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 16:38

    I don't want one because I would be awfully tempted to spend the rest of my life colour matching my tea a brown one. And if it didn't work then I'd clash and that would be bad!

    Oooh, wait wait, I can do a plug here: http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/07/18/a-mugs-game/

    Get in!

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 16:40

    Oooh, wait wait, I can do a plug here: http://smarter...09/07/18/a-mugs-game/

    Oh wow! WANT! I never change my mind.

    In case you were wondering, it's black no sugar ;)

  • me04/02/2010 at 16:40

    Get in!

    :)

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 16:44

    Get in!

    :)

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 16:52

    Oooh, wait wait, I can do a plug here: http://smarter...09/07/18/a-mugs-game/

    Want.

  • lou04/02/2010 at 17:19

    gooood evening!:)

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:22

    gooood evening!:)

    Hey Lou

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:23

    gooood evening!:)

    Evening :)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 17:24

    everyone had a nice thursday?

  • Tom G04/02/2010 at 17:24

    Hello all.

    everyone had a nice thursday?

    Nope.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:24

    Nope.

    Still feeling rough Tom?

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:25

    everyone had a nice thursday?

    Yup. Not the best, but good enough for me. Weekend starts now, anyhow. :D

  • Tom G04/02/2010 at 17:25

    Still feeling rough Tom?

    Not so much now, things are just starting to get me down.

  • RG04/02/2010 at 17:26

    everyone had a nice thursday?

    Hey lou and Jon. Been a bit of a dull day.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:26

    Not so much now, things are just starting to get me down.

    Hopefully you'll be better by the weekend and you can get out there and have some fun

  • lou04/02/2010 at 17:27

    Nope.

    oh :(

  • lou04/02/2010 at 17:28

    i was given a blueberry muffin when i came in..and now it's gone :( it was yummy though...

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:29

    i was given a blueberry muffin when i came in..and now it's gone :( it was yummy though...

    Best muffins evah!

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:30

    Best muffins evah!

    Mmmmm I tried to make some the other day. I ended up eating the blueberries. Managed to make a carrot cake though.

    I had fresh rolls today :)

  • Tom G04/02/2010 at 17:30

    oh :(

    I know. Rrrrrrubbish, to be honest. Not enjoying it.

  • lou04/02/2010 at 17:31

    Best muffins evah!

    true story :) apparently the muffin and my hug mug of tea were my reward for surviving the last 5 weeks of constant exam and deadline stress. i need to tidy my desk in a moment though as i can't even put my laptop down :)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 17:32

    Mmmmm I tried to make some the other day. I ended up eating the blueberries. Managed to make a carrot cake though.

    blueberries are amazing :)

    I had fresh rolls today :)

    ooo!! mum makes fresh bread sometimes in the morning, specially in the summer. it's the nicest smell to wake up to :)

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:32

    I think I'll catch up on some tv tonight or the film backlog

    I saw The Hurt Locker the other night. Stunning film

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:33

    ooo!! mum makes fresh bread sometimes in the morning, specially in the summer. it's the nicest smell to wake up to :)

    homemade fresh bread first thing in the morning! that is awesome.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:33

    I saw The Hurt Locker the other night. Stunning film

    Have you watched Avatar?

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:34

    homemade fresh bread first thing in the morning! that is awesome.

    I had it for lunch with my homemade soup :P

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:35

    Have you watched Avatar?

    Saw it at the IMAX, loved it

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:35

    I had it for lunch with my homemade soup :P

    Sounds yummy

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:35

    Saw it at the IMAX, loved it

    Cool. If you had to pick between The Hurt Locker and Avatar for best picture, which would you pick?

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:35

    I had it for lunch with my homemade soup :P

    Sounds yummy

    That's an understatement.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:37

    Cool. If you had to pick between The Hurt Locker and Avatar for best picture, which would you pick?

    Overall, in the eyes of the Academy, The Hurt Locker

    Avatar was visually amazing but storywise... well, that's not what audiences watch it for

  • lou04/02/2010 at 17:37

    I had it for lunch with my homemade soup :P

    oo sounds yummy!! I was stuck with yucky school food and trying to work out if egg and tomato and chicken curry and apricot sauce were typical sandwich fillings :s

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:37

    That's an understatement.

    I really can't cook! Making soup and bread doesn't really count as cooking :P

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:37

    Avatar was visually amazing but storywise... well, that's not what audiences watch it for

    Hehehe everyone loves Pocahontas! :D

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:38

    Hehehe everyone loves Pocahontas! :D

    True enough

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:40

    Overall, in the eyes of the Academy, The Hurt Locker

    Interesting. I have yet to watch The Hurt Locker. But in a year where the Academy made 10 nominations for best picture rather than 5, I think they're trying to reach out to the mainstream. I'm guessing it'll go to Avatar.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:40

    Hehehe everyone loves Pocahontas! :D

    :P :D

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:41

    ...I'm guessing it'll go to Avatar.

    I think it'll clean up in the technical awards but THL will get the bigguns

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:42

    I have to say I wasn't blown away by Avatar. I enjoyed it while I was watching it but I wouldn't go too far raving about it.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:42

    I think it'll clean up in the technical awards but THL will get the bigguns

    I dunno... Titanic won it all, after all.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:43

    I dunno... Titanic won it all, after all.

    And... what was THAT about? An iceberg and a love story.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:44

    Ecclestone pushing for Stefan/Ralf Schumacher entry

    First shortcuts, now this? Bernie has really been messing with our heads lately...

  • Jon "Is Not Very Observant" Waldock04/02/2010 at 17:45
  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:46

    And we're off to the pun-nies:

    Timo Glock gives Virgin first experience

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:46

    I think it'll clean up in the technical awards but THL will get the bigguns

    I dunno... Titanic won it all, after all.

    Watch The Hurt Locker anyway, it deserves to be seen

    I'm quite a fan of Kathryn Bigelow's back catalogue

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:46

    Watch The Hurt Locker anyway, it deserves to be seen

    I'm quite a fan of Kathryn Bigelow's back catalogue

    Will try to do so... if they ever release it here.

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:47

    Will try to do so... if they ever release it here.

    IMDB says it was Oct 2009

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:47

    Will try to do so... if they ever release it here.

    I think it's been labelled somewhat pretentious! We certainly haven't got a whiff of it up here :P

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:49

    Will try to do so... if they ever release it here.

    I think it's been labelled somewhat pretentious! We certainly haven't got a whiff of it up here :P

    It's more of a independant than a all-star blockbuster

    It's taken the distributers by surprise I think

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:49

    IMDB says it was Oct 2009

    We usually don't get low-revenue films here - I guess they don't want to pay for its distribution. It'll only probably get shown here if they win Best Picture - and even then, in a limited release...

  • Bassano04/02/2010 at 17:53

    Right, food calls

    Catch you folks in a while

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:54

    I'm using my spare dough for pizza :)

    Nom nom nom.

  • Journeyer04/02/2010 at 17:56

    Nom nom nom.

    :D Makes me laugh whenever I read that.

    Anyway, gotta hit the sack. Lotsa errands tomorrow.

    Oh, and if you haven't yet, don't forget Thursday Thoughts! I'll read em tomorrow.

    Night, folks. :D

  • RG04/02/2010 at 17:56

    Oh, and if you haven't yet, don't forget Thursday Thoughts! I'll read em tomorrow.

    Doing it now

    Night :)

  • Jon "Is Not Very Observant" Waldock04/02/2010 at 17:57

    Anyway, gotta hit the sack. Lotsa errands tomorrow.

    adioss

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 17:58

    :D Makes me laugh whenever I read that.

    :) Night

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 17:59

    Hi guys, hows things? Samsung G600 browser is veddy slow. Opera Mini it is then!

  • lou04/02/2010 at 18:04

    Anyway, gotta hit the sack. Lotsa errands tomorrow.

    see ya :)

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 18:20

    i feel like i've been out of the f1 loop for the past week, can someone sum up whats happened in 1 or 2 sentences please?

  • Nathan04/02/2010 at 18:20

    i feel like i've been out of the f1 loop for the past week, can someone sum up whats happened in 1 or 2 sentences please?

    Stuff.

  • me04/02/2010 at 18:21

    i feel like i've been out of the f1 loop for the past week, can someone sum up whats happened in 1 or 2 sentences please?

    http://www.f1minute.com/category/daily/

  • me04/02/2010 at 18:21

    http://www.f1minute.com/category/daily/

    you could listen to all 300 seconds faster than we could type them.

  • lou04/02/2010 at 18:24

    i feel like i've been out of the f1 loop for the past week, can someone sum up whats happened in 1 or 2 sentences please?

    http://www.f1minute.com/category/daily/

    f1minute is a life saving podcast. they've been keeping me in the loop while i've been so busy with work and revision :) saves trawling through rss feeds and websites :)

  • me04/02/2010 at 18:25

    f1minute is a life saving podcast. they've been keeping me in the loop while i've been so busy with work and revision :) saves trawling through rss feeds and websites :)

    it really is fantastic when the week has been as hectic as this.

    before sunday's show i'm gonna need a recap and that's exactly where i'll be going :)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 18:26

    before sunday's show i'm gonna need a recap and that's exactly where i'll be going :)

    :D and i'm presuming reading the show notes too ;)

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 18:28

    :D and i'm presuming reading the show notes too ;)

    lets not go mad!

  • me04/02/2010 at 18:29

    lets not go mad!

    quite.

  • lou04/02/2010 at 18:29

    lets not go mad!

    :D hehehe hi Alex :)

    i'm loving being on spc tonight, just because, for the first time in ages i've not got to revise anything/ write anything for the next day. being here and not procrastinating is a nice feeling :)

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 18:32

    i'm loving being on spc tonight, just because, for the first time in ages i've not got to revise anything/ write anything for the next day. being here and not procrastinating is a nice feeling :)

    shoo...stay? wooshoo!

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 18:34

    Time to set up the f1 minute podcast on my phone then!

  • lou04/02/2010 at 18:35

    shoo...stay? wooshoo!

    is it wrong that as i read that i imagined micheal mcintyre saying something similar? hehe

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 18:49

    is it wrong that as i read that i imagined micheal mcintyre saying something similar? hehe

    Probably not! he he :)

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 19:13

    #confidential

    Mrs C you have mail.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 19:18

    Mrs C you have mail.

    Tis perfect.

  • eifelbauer04/02/2010 at 19:21

    no only Dutch TV so it's payed to the BBC

  • me04/02/2010 at 19:27

    no only Dutch TV so it's payed to the BBC

    odd. so you get everything except for 5live?

  • me04/02/2010 at 19:31

    google is going to stop supporting IE6 users using calendar and gmail later this year.

    YES!!

  • eifelbauer04/02/2010 at 19:43

    No. Video and audio dont play all the time. F1 Cars no Video, normel talk plays but not today. 5live stop's 5min in to the live F1 show and no demand

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 19:43

    YES!!

    And so it begins?

  • lou04/02/2010 at 19:45
  • Jeremy04/02/2010 at 19:52

    google is going to stop supporting IE6 users using calendar and gmail later this year.

    isn't it already banned in some countries?

    Can we ban anyone who made a website that only runs in IE6 from working in the industry?

  • Nathan04/02/2010 at 20:00

    Something very off topic but my neighbours are drilling away at 8pm! So annoying. Go. Away. :(

  • Jon "Is Not Very Observant" Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:06

    The Hulk has released his new website...

    http://www.nicohulkenberg.net/

    Annnndd......its in German.

    ta Mr Nico

  • RG04/02/2010 at 20:07

    Annnndd......its in German.

    Don't worry, I've suffered that with Timo for years.

  • Jon "Is Not Very Observant" Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:08

    Don't worry, I've suffered that with Timo for years.

    Apparently an English is coming soon

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:19

    I'm booooooored!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:20

    Greetings all

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:20

    Greetings all

    Hello Steeeven :)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 20:21

    Greetings all

    hello :)

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:21

    I'm booooooored!

    Phew! Thought that was Jackie, got worried!!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:21

    I'm booooooored!

    Well you can't start a religion because we did that when Jackie was booored. You could write a guest post about your visit to the track in Abu Dhabi. I keep typing it as Abu Shabi. Every single time I do it

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:23

    Well you can't start a religion because we did that when Jackie was booored. You could write a guest post about your visit to the track in Abu Dhabi. I keep typing it as Abu Shabi. Every single time I do it

    A kid at the Autosport show asked whoever was on stage at the time a question, and said Abu Dubai, not Abu Dhabi.

    Bless him

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:23

    Well you can't start a religion because we did that when Jackie was booored. You could write a guest post about your visit to the track in Abu Dhabi. I keep typing it as Abu Shabi. Every single time I do it

    Hehehe get Nick to do it! I'm more than happy to render it legible!

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 20:23

    A kid at the Autosport show asked whoever was on stage at the time a question, and said Abu Dubai, not Abu Dhabi.

    Someone did that when Chris and I were watching too.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 20:24

    Someone did that when Chris and I were watching too.

    err... I think. I might be mixing it up with a video I saw after, come to think of it.

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 20:24

    Someone did that when Chris and I were watching too.

    Blimey. First time my head ping's worked! Evening all!

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:24

    err... I think. I might be mixing it up with a video I saw after, come to think of it.

    +1 :D

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:25

    Hehehe get Nick to do it! I'm more than happy to render it legible!

    But you are bored now. You could help Alex and I sort out our live drawing sidepodradio show which has a few technical problems that need a little work

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 20:25

    err... I think. I might be mixing it up with a video I saw after, come to think of it.

    I was about to say, I can't remember it! :)

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:25

    Blimey. First time my head ping's worked! Evening all!

    The calibration has worked then

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:26

    But you are bored now. You could help Alex and I sort out our live drawing sidepodradio show which has a few technical problems that need a little work

    I'm not so keen on the writing though! Or the thinking....

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 20:26

    Good evening folks, how are we? I just ran 2.3 miles in 15 minutes so am a bit chuffed! :D

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 20:27

    BTW, Mr C, did you ask Christine re: Joe Saward's evening? I'm a lil clueless when it comes to hotels in London and don't fancy the 3 hour journey back home!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:27

    I'm not so keen on the writing though! Or the thinking....

    So what do you like doing apart from organising meat and removing sequins?

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:28

    Good evening folks, how are we? I just ran 2.3 miles in 15 minutes so am a bit chuffed! :D

    You ran at 10mph! Impressed!

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:28

    So what do you like doing apart from organising meat and removing sequins?

    Making bread and soup....and pizza....

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 20:28

    You ran at 10mph! Impressed!

    9.09, but close, yes. ;)

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:29

    So what do you like doing apart from organising meat and removing sequins?

    Making bread and soup....and pizza....

    To be honest, that's quite an exhaustive list!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:32

    To be honest, that's quite an exhaustive list!

    You need a new hobby then. Aerodynamics, composite bonding, suspension design or something like that

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:36

    gah. what is it with spam this week!

    "A new comment on the post #681 "Go Motorsport: Marshal Training" is waiting for your approval"

    Comment:

    Will money be taken from my taxes because I have a student loan?

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 20:38

    gah. what is it with spam this week!

    Er... why are you spamming us with it?

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:39

    You need a new hobby then. Aerodynamics, composite bonding, suspension design or something like that

    I like other things. But you all make fun of me when I talk about them so.....

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:39

    Er... why are you spamming us with it?

    good question, thought i'd share the stupidity of it.

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:39

    I like other things. But you all make fun of me when I talk about them so.....

    like what?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:41

    I like other things. But you all make fun of me when I talk about them so.....

    What other things? Who made fun of you? I wll sort them out if they do it again.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:43

    like what?

    Reading, sewing, lunch dates. I like making things.

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:43

    Reading, sewing, lunch dates. I like making things.

    Whats wrong with that?

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 20:43

    Reading, sewing, lunch dates. I like making things.

    Do you make anything panda shaped?

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:43

    Reading, sewing, lunch dates. I like making things.

    OOOH. i know what you could do.

    Paper Mache

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:43

    Whats wrong with that?

    You nearly wet yourself when I tried to take my sewing on holiday with me!!

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:44

    You nearly wet yourself when I tried to take my sewing on holiday with me!!

    Ah no. I nearly wet myself (not literally) when you wanted to take Needles on the plane

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:44

    Do you make anything panda shaped?

    Errrr I'm not all that talented :P

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:45

    Ah no. I nearly wet myself (not literally) when you wanted to take Needles on the plane

    How do you sew without needles? You think Nick's gonna own some??

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 20:45

    How do you sew without needles? You think Nick's gonna own some??

    of course he wont, but needles + planes = getting yourself shot

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:45

    Reading, sewing, lunch dates. I like making things.

    We all read stuff so no-one can say anything about that. Lou is always talking about sewing stuff and I have never seen a negative comment. Everyone eats and most of us who are clueless at it would love to make things.

    It's a bit late for lunch so maybe naking something is an option.

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 20:46

    Errrr I'm not all that talented :P

    I think you should have a go. They're just black and white things with eyes. My mum did it: http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/11/21/mrs-p-joins-the-fold/

  • RG04/02/2010 at 20:46

    How do you sew without needles? You think Nick's gonna own some??

    Sewing machine. Or have I forgot about something?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:46

    Paper Mache

    I forgot about that

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:47

    Do you make anything panda shaped?

    Errrr I'm not all that talented :P

    It doesn't have to be able to fool a real panda

  • lou04/02/2010 at 20:47

    You nearly wet yourself when I tried to take my sewing on holiday with me!!

    my friend (who loves textiles) brings her sewing machine with her when she goes on her yearly trip to the lake district with people. holidays are for fun and relaxation and doing what you want :) i bring my camera with me, nothing wrong with bringing a sewing machine :)

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:48

    Sewing machine. Or have I forgot about something?

    I think they have needles

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:49

    Sewing machine. Or have I forgot about something?

    There's needles in a machine too. I think it might have been a little over my baggage allowance!

    I packed it all away in my hold bags safe and sound although you could do more with a pen than my tiny needle.

  • lou04/02/2010 at 20:49

    We all read stuff so no-one can say anything about that. Lou is always talking about sewing stuff and I have never seen a negative comment. Everyone eats and most of us who are clueless at it would love to make things.

    the only negative comments about sewing have been from me tbh ;)

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 20:50

    my friend (who loves textiles) brings her sewing machine with her when she goes on her yearly trip to the lake district with people. holidays are for fun and relaxation and doing what you want :) i bring my camera with me, nothing wrong with bringing a sewing machine :)

    Apart from the lugging it about y'mean? Sewing machines aren't exactly light appliances, you know. ;)

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:50

    I'm embroidering at the moment like an old woman :P

  • RG04/02/2010 at 20:50

    There's needles in a machine too. I think it might have been a little over my baggage allowance!

    Really? No, I wouldn't have thought so.

  • lou04/02/2010 at 20:51

    I think they have needles

    they do. I bent one this morning.. it made a rather interesting sound hehehe

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 20:51

    I'm embroidering at the moment like an old woman :P

    I made a cross stitch Piglet a few years ago. I heart Piglet. Not the silly Winnie thing.

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 20:52

    I made a cross stitch Piglet a few years ago. I heart Piglet. Not the silly Winnie thing.

    I misread Piglet for Piquet then. That's bad!

  • lou04/02/2010 at 20:52

    Apart from the lugging it about y'mean? Sewing machines aren't exactly light appliances, you know. ;)

    well.. if you're on holiday you can put it in the car... or pack it or put it as hand luggage. it's not impossible. :)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 20:52

    I'm embroidering at the moment like an old woman :P

    we may need a picture ;)

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 20:53

    I misread Piglet for Piquet then. That's bad!

    :D

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 20:55

    I misread Piglet for Piquet then. That's bad!

    the tao of Pooh and the Te of Piquet?

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 20:55

    we may need a picture ;)

    I've not done very much at the moment. My visions of sitting doing it in the shade on Nick's balcony had conveniently missed out the huge roadworks 50 metres away.... Too much dust to even breathe out there :P

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 20:55

    I misread Piglet for Piquet then. That's bad!

    Ha! Of all the drivers, he would not be my first choice to cross stitch.

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 20:56

    Ha! Of all the drivers, he would not be my first choice to cross stitch.

    I'm thinking a certain Frenchman, but even he wouldn't look good on cross-stitch. At least with Bourdais you could make it look representable...

  • lou04/02/2010 at 20:57

    Ha! Of all the drivers, he would not be my first choice to cross stitch.

    comment of the year!! well.. so far ;)

  • RG04/02/2010 at 20:58

    I'm thinking a certain Frenchman, but even he wouldn't look good on cross-stitch. At least with Bourdais you could make it look representable...

    :D

    Could just do the helmet, Timo's doesn't look too hard to do.....

    Ah

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 21:01

    Quick plug for Stuart's latest... the song theme continues..

    http://www.stuartcodling.com/2010/02/f1-valencia-tes/

  • Janna04/02/2010 at 21:19

    GRRR I put one comment on spc at 18:49:38 then my computer decided to hate me. First it froze so I turned it off, then it wouldn't start the anti-virus so I uninstalled & reinstalled & then it had a go at me for not having my anti-virus set up properly GRRR. All now OK. Sorry about the rant, had to let it out.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:21

    GRRR I put one comment on spc at 18:49:38 then my computer decided to hate me. First it froze so I turned it off, then it wouldn't start the anti-virus so I uninstalled & reinstalled & then it had a go at me for not having my anti-virus set up properly GRRR. All now OK. Sorry about the rant, had to let it out.

    Queue suggestions for a change to the Mac world ;-)

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:22

    Queue suggestions for a change to the Mac world ;-)

    actually i'd like to take the opportunity to moan about norton. was it norton janna?

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 21:23

    actually i'd like to take the opportunity to moan about norton. was it norton janna?

    i hear alot of moaning about Norton, what exactly do they do wrong?

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:23

    actually i'd like to take the opportunity to moan about norton. was it norton janna?

    Ahh norton. What a nasty word. It's a virus program if anything *shudders*

  • Janna04/02/2010 at 21:23

    actually i'd like to take the opportunity to moan about norton. was it norton janna?

    No, Virgin PC Guard. It's usually OK but every now & then Vista hates it

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:24

    i hear alot of moaning about Norton, what exactly do they do wrong?

    Norton caused all sorts of problems for me. Ate up memory, didnt actually protect my computer from viruses, kept changing settings as to what it was supposed to and basically crippled our old computer before we realised how awful it was.

  • Janna04/02/2010 at 21:25

    No, Virgin PC Guard. It's usually OK but every now & then Vista hates it

    & I know it's my own fault for having a PC and Vista. I'm looking to go to WIndows 7 but need to wait for my birthday (which happily is the end of the month)

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:25

    i hear alot of moaning about Norton, what exactly do they do wrong?

    where to start...

    Norton caused all sorts of problems for me. Ate up memory, didnt actually protect my computer from viruses, kept changing settings as to what it was supposed to and basically crippled our old computer before we realised how awful it was.

    ^^ oh yeah, that!

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:25

    i hear alot of moaning about Norton, what exactly do they do wrong?

    They invade the PC and kill it. Could there be a worse program out there?

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 21:25

    They invade the PC and kill it. Could there be a worse program out there?

    Flash.

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:26

    They invade the PC and kill it. Could there be a worse program out there?

    i'd rather have a virus than norton.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:26

    Flash.

    Hmmm.....um.....hmmmm.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:26

    i'd rather have a virus than norton.

    :D

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 21:26

    Flash.

    The nice thing about Flash it that it kills ALL platforms (Linux, OS X, Windows). Norton only kills Windoze.

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 21:27

    & I know it's my own fault for having a PC and Vista. I'm looking to go to WIndows 7 but need to wait for my birthday (which happily is the end of the month)

    Vista's fine once people know how to use it. Virgin PC Guard, however, is the most awful antivirus program an ISP can bundle with it.

    May I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials for your perusal? Fast, free, doesn't take a lot of resources.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:27

    Actually I may get jumped on for saying this, but the new-ish Microsoft AV is not so bad, works well and stays mostly out of the way.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:27

    If computers were run by hamsters running in a wheel, norton would take away the wheel. And the cage. That's how evil it is.

    #truefact

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:27

    May I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials for your perusal? Fast, free, doesn't take a lot of resources.

    i'd agree with that janna.

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 21:27

    Actually I may get jumped on for saying this, but the new-ish Microsoft AV is not so bad, works well and stays mostly out of the way.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What 'e said. Seriously, don't discount it just because it's Microsoft. It's one of the best out there.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:28

    Actually I may get jumped on for saying this, but the new-ish Microsoft AV is not so bad, works well and stays mostly out of the way.

    The Windows 7 one has been pretty good in the past few months since upgrading.

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:28

    Actually I may get jumped on for saying this, but the new-ish Microsoft AV is not so bad, works well and stays mostly out of the way.

    not at all. i agree paul.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 21:29

    May I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials for your perusal? Fast, free, doesn't take a lot of resources.

    What? "Microsoft" and "doesn't take a lot of resources" in the same sentence? Does this mean they are finally learning?

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:29

    not at all. i agree paul.

    Well, that's 3 votes!

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:29

    What? "Microsoft" and "doesn't take a lot of resources" in the same sentence? Does this mean they are finally learning?

    i think windows 7 might even run on a netbook. not tried it yet though.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:30

    What? "Microsoft" and "doesn't take a lot of resources" in the same sentence? Does this mean they are finally learning?

    Learning their own OS maybe. Dont get too excited

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:31

    I hope we didn't scare Janna off with computer speak

  • Janna04/02/2010 at 21:32

    I hope we didn't scare Janna off with computer speak

    No problem, uninstalling PC Guard & Installing Microsoft Security now. Thanks for the advice :)

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 21:33

    May I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials for your perusal? Fast, free, doesn't take a lot of resources.

    Leo was plugging that recently too

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 21:33

    I hope we didn't scare Janna off with computer speak

    OSPF BGP, IPV6 TCP/IP!!!

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:35

    Christine, janna and the other Who fans about... have you seen the name of the first three episodes of the new Dr Who?

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:35

    OSPF BGP, IPV6 TCP/IP!!!

    We could do ITIL again, that was fun!

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 21:35

    Christine, janna and the other Who fans about... have you seen the name of the first three episodes of the new Dr Who?

    Nope!

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:36

    Christine, janna and the other Who fans about... have you seen the name of the first three episodes of the new Dr Who?

    christine likes the who?

    ...oh him.

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 21:36

    Christine, janna and the other Who fans about... have you seen the name of the first three episodes of the new Dr Who?

    Nope!

    Yep. They sound awesome!

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:37

    Nope!

    I don;t think they give any spoilers, just a returning enemy we all knew were returning because, yknow, they always do

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctorwho/news/a201231/first-smith-doctor-who-titles-confirmed.html

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:37

    christine likes the who?

    I would like to see what Roger Daltrey would get up to in a time machine

  • RG04/02/2010 at 21:38

    I would like to see what Roger Daltrey would get up to in a time machine

    My Generation would certainly be different.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:38

    My Generation would certainly be different.

    Every episode could end with him screaming. Like CSI, but good.

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:39

    My Generation would certainly be different.

    :D

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 21:39

    christine likes the who?

    I know maybe two songs. But I do like those two songs.

  • me04/02/2010 at 21:39

    I know maybe two songs. But I do like those two songs.

    #impressed

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:40

    I know maybe two songs. But I do like those two songs.

    Magic Bus?

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 21:40

    Leo was plugging that recently too

    I recently convinced my bosses at work to let me install MSE on my PC as a test instead of the de-facto Avast we recommend and install on all the PCs. So far, no viruses. I let it run a 30 second computer scan once a week in the mornings when I get into work and that keeps the little scoundrels at bay. I may push for it to be installed on all of them next month.

  • Janna04/02/2010 at 21:40

    I don;t think they give any spoilers, just a returning enemy we all knew were returning because, yknow, they always do

    Am really looking forward to it, they've got some great writers for the next season

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:40

    Am really looking forward to it, they've got some great writers for the next season

    Looking forward to Richard Curtis' episode :D

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 21:41

    Am really looking forward to it, they've got some great writers for the next season

    Looking forward to Richard Curtis' episode :D

    Did you see the actor they've hired to take part in his episode? I won't give a name away (unless you want), but let's say he's a hollywood actor!

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:42

    Did you see the actor they've hired to take part in his episode? I won't give a name away (unless you want), but let's say he's a hollywood actor!

    ooooh, I've just seen! YAY!

  • Christine04/02/2010 at 21:43

    Magic Bus?

    Is that like the Playbus?

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:43

    Is that like the Playbus?

    Not exactly ;-)

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:44

    Is that like the Playbus?

    *hums theme*

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 21:45

    Is that like the Playbus?

    *hums theme*

    I am trying so hard not to do that!

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:45

    I am trying so hard not to do that!

    It has got me looking at classic theme tunes on youtube now, here we go.

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 21:46

    Magic Bus?

    You've now forced me to load up some Who.

  • Janna04/02/2010 at 21:47

    Magic Bus?

    You've now forced me to load up some Who.

    Am singing "Who Are You?" now

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 21:47

    It has got me looking at classic theme tunes on youtube now, here we go.

    This is the best one ever. No contest!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frGLMtGsotc

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:48

    This is the best one ever. No contest!

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=frGLMtGsotc

    I dunno... I think ol' Fireman Sam and his quick response alert is up there ;)

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 21:49

    This is the best one ever. No contest!

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=frGLMtGsotc

    DUCKTALES!! WOO-OOO!!

    That brings back my college days...

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 21:49

    I dunno... I think ol' Fireman Sam and his quick response alert is up there ;)

    I like the Animaniacs theme as well.

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 21:50

    I like the Animaniacs theme as well.

    Ha! Watching that now!

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:50

    I like the Animaniacs theme as well.

    Penny Crayon was catchy as hell from what I remember *googles*

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 21:51

    Sewing is taking too much brainpower! I think I was maybe a bit ambitious!

  • Janna04/02/2010 at 21:51

    I dunno... I think ol' Fireman Sam and his quick response alert is up there ;)

    Don't know Fireman Sam but now have "Firemen Bold" from Trumpton in my head - Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew etc #showingmyage

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:52

    Don't know Fireman Sam but now have "Firemen Bold" from Trumpton in my head - Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew etc #showingmyage

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0ggNVhaE0

    He is hero of the welsh people with his quick response, his funky bassline and his smile

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 21:54

    I dunno... I think ol' Fireman Sam and his quick response alert is up there ;)

    When I was that age, I was a MASSIVE Thomas the Tank Engine fan. Didn't really bother with Fireman Sam unfortunately.

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:55

    When I was that age, I was a MASSIVE Thomas the Tank Engine fan. Didn't really bother with Fireman Sam unfortunately.

    Oddly enough Ivor the Engine was more popular here than Thomas was. Probably because it was a welsh cartoon... not that Thomas wasn't the man (well, train) or anything, I still remember an episode where it was all foggy and someone crashed, it made me cry for hours.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 21:57

    feed me

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9dbAQJIu1o&feature=fvw

  • Janna04/02/2010 at 21:57

    Microsoft Security Essentials all Downloaded, Installed & Scan run. Thanks for the help. Off to bed now, will be dreaming of The Woodentops, Andy Pandy and The Clangers #ancientchildrenstvprogrammes

  • paul04/02/2010 at 21:58

    The Clangers?!

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:58

    Microsoft Security Essentials all Downloaded, Installed & Scan run. Thanks for the help. Off to bed now, will be dreaming of The Woodentops, Andy Pandy and The Clangers #ancientchildrenstvprogrammes

    hehe :) night!

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 21:58

    Although clearly the winner is DM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7WrEidvyY&feature=related

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 21:58

    Although clearly the winner is DM

    http://www.you...Y&feature=related

    better one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw2TDna9NYg&feature=related

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 21:59

    Oddly enough Ivor the Engine was more popular here than Thomas was. Probably because it was a welsh cartoon... not that Thomas wasn't the man (well, train) or anything, I still remember an episode where it was all foggy and someone crashed, it made me cry for hours.

    Oh, I think I know which one you're on about!

    Here's the original theme. Shame the original narrator died, isn't it? ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gXk8y7_qxY

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 21:59

    Here's the original theme. Shame the original narrator died, isn't it? ;)

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=8gXk8y7_qxY

    Whatever happened to that guy? I hear some podcaster had it in for him...

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 22:00

    This is the best one ever. No contest!

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=frGLMtGsotc

    Fan......................tastic! :D

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:01

    Sewing is taking too much brainpower! I think I was maybe a bit ambitious!

    What are you making?

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 22:03

    Microsoft Security Essentials all Downloaded, Installed & Scan run. Thanks for the help. Off to bed now, will be dreaming of The Woodentops, Andy Pandy and The Clangers #ancientchildrenstvprogrammes

    Clangers.... oh my gods what an absolutely EPIC PROGRAMME!!!!!

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 22:04

    Here's the original theme. Shame the original narrator died, isn't it? ;)

    I heard some guy that nobodys seen before killed him. shame really

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:04

    #sidepodspace update.

    Sunday morning's space shuttle launch is still on schedule. They are going to force me to get out of bed early.

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:05

    Sunday morning's space shuttle launch is still on schedule. They are going to force me to get out of bed early.

    Is there any money left for them to launch?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:06

    Is there any money left for them to launch?

    They will complete the scheduled shuttle missions. This is STS130 and the planned missions go up to STS134 then it is grounded and the shuttles get sold off

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:07

    They will complete the scheduled shuttle missions. This is STS130 and the planned missions go up to STS134 then it is grounded and the shuttles get sold off

    Wonderful. and the funding for the replacement is removed.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:10

    What are you making?

    A big embroidery thingy

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:11

    Wonderful. and the funding for the replacement is removed.

    The replacement is ridiculous. Why does NASA need 7 years to design something they already flew 40 years ago. If you look at the 60s in around 7 years they built and flew Mercury, Gemini and Apollo and all of it hanf frawn and hand calculated. So why does it take 7 years to do a similar vehicle now with everything they already know? India with no background in manned spaceflight is going to take 7 years to design and launch their first ever manned vehicle.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:12

    A big embroidery thingy

    Thingies are always useful. Can't have enough thingies

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:13

    So why does it take 7 years to do a similar vehicle now with everything they already know?

    Minuscule funding while they continue to throw endless amounts on meaningless "wars"?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:15

    Minuscule funding while they continue to throw endless amounts on meaningless "wars"?

    Have you seen NASA's budget? They are blowing billions achieving a fraction of what they should.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:17

    Have you seen NASA's budget? They are blowing billions achieving a fraction of what they should.

    Yes. It's just a pet hate of mine when governments reduce funding on any sort of research.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:18

    Yes. It's just a pet hate of mine when governments reduce funding on any sort of research.

    Not all research is valuable or economical?

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 22:18

    Yes. It's just a pet hate of mine when governments reduce funding on any sort of research.

    They shove rockets into space putting people's lives at risk. Where's the fun in that?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:18

    This sums up the amount of money NASA can blow. $650 million excluding launch vehicle. The private space industry is going to make NASA look amateurish over the next 10 to 20 years

    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/dec/HQ_09-296_New_Frontiers_Candidates.html

  • Turkey Machine04/02/2010 at 22:19

    On that note guys, I'm heading off to the big land of nod. Early start tomorrow. Will doo-hickey on the train to stave off boredom and avert the gazes of wistful schoolchildren as I sit in the luggage rack! :D G'night!

  • me04/02/2010 at 22:19

    They shove rockets into space putting people's lives at risk. Where's the fun in that?

    you clearly haven't live commented a rocket launch.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:20

    Yes. It's just a pet hate of mine when governments reduce funding on any sort of research.

    The trouble is so long as the US government funds NASA it holds back the private space industry. NASA should be regulating the industry and government funding should go to space businesses which will do ten times as much with the same money.

  • RG04/02/2010 at 22:20

    On that note guys, I'm heading off to the big land of nod. Early start tomorrow. Will doo-hickey on the train to stave off boredom and avert the gazes of wistful schoolchildren as I sit in the luggage rack! :D G'night!

    Night sir.

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 22:20

    On that note guys, I'm heading off to the big land of nod. Early start tomorrow. Will doo-hickey on the train to stave off boredom and avert the gazes of wistful schoolchildren as I sit in the luggage rack! :D G'night!

    night

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:20

    They shove rockets into space putting people's lives at risk. Where's the fun in that?

    They are saving lives. One day we have to get off this planet and I think we should be doing all we can now in case that day is sooner rather than later

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:21

    They shove rockets into space putting people's lives at risk. Where's the fun in that?

    More fun than shoving rockets in people's houses

    Sorry, I don't mean to get political here.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:21

    On that note guys, I'm heading off to the big land of nod. Early start tomorrow. Will doo-hickey on the train to stave off boredom and avert the gazes of wistful schoolchildren as I sit in the luggage rack! :D G'night!

    Good night

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:21

    Not all research is valuable or economical?

    No, but it is where innovation comes from.

  • lou04/02/2010 at 22:21

    On that note guys, I'm heading off to the big land of nod. Early start tomorrow. Will doo-hickey on the train to stave off boredom and avert the gazes of wistful schoolchildren as I sit in the luggage rack! :D G'night!

    night!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:22

    you clearly haven't live commented a rocket launch.

    Sunday 9:39am UK for the launch. NASA TV will be covering the build up for several hours beforehand

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:22

    The trouble is so long as the US government funds NASA it holds back the private space industry. NASA should be regulating the industry and government funding should go to space businesses which will do ten times as much with the same money.

    Governments have to fund this stuff until they show there is some economic benefit for the private sector.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:23

    Governments have to fund this stuff until they show there is some economic benefit for the private sector.

    The private sector would make a fortune launching satellites that NASA makes a loss on. NASA is way too slow and too top heavy

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 22:23

    16&G has Dallara's concepts for the next-gen Indycar, to be released officially tomorrow..

    http://www.16thandgeorgetown.com/

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:25

    The private sector would make a fortune launching satellites that NASA makes a loss on. NASA is way too slow and too top heavy

    That's a management problem. You said how good they were in the 60s.

    I can't see the private sector funding a trip to the moon, let alone Mars.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:27

    That's a management problem. You said how good they were in the 60s.

    I can't see the private sector funding a trip to the moon, let alone Mars.

    They took way too many risks in the 60s. It is a miracle that people were not killed or left on the moon. The private sector will go to the moon because of the minerals that are there.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:30

    They took way too many risks in the 60s. It is a miracle that people were not killed or left on the moon.

    has always been the way - sailing in the 1500s wasn't exactly safe.

    The private sector will go to the moon because of the minerals that are there.

    Not until it's too expensive to mine earth. By that time........

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:36

    has always been the way - sailing in the 1500s wasn't exactly safe.

    At least they knew the boats could float and the sails would work.

    Not until it's too expensive to mine earth. By that time........

    They have stuff on the moon that is not available here in sufficient quantities. The moon has deposits of Helium 3(I think that is what it is-must check) that can be used for nuclear fusion and is capable of yielding vast amounts of energy. Any private company that can secure the mining rights stands to make a lot of cash.

    I am sure there will be government funded missions to the moon, Mars and beyond which will involve all the major space agencies and all the relevant governements but there is no logic in funding NASA to develop a modern version of Apollo when it won't be able to put a man in orbit for 7 years. There are plans around that could achieve the same objectives by using shuttle related equiment that could be flying in 2 years.

  • Andy Taylor04/02/2010 at 22:39

    They took way too many risks in the 60s. It is a miracle that people were not killed or left on the moon. The private sector will go to the moon because of the minerals that are there.

    Neil Armstrong put his chances at 50:50 of getting back home. Michael Collins said that his biggest fear was having to return from the Moon alone.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:40

    They have stuff on the moon that is not available here in sufficient quantities. The moon has deposits of Helium 3(I think that is what it is-must check) that can be used for nuclear fusion and is capable of yielding vast amounts of energy. Any private company that can secure the mining rights stands to make a lot of cash.

    Good point, not sure if I will see it.

    anyway, must work.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:41

    Neil Armstrong put his chances at 50:50 of getting back home. Michael Collins said that his biggest fear was having to return from the Moon alone.

    Armstrong's wife was told 50:50 but she never believed it was that high

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:41

    anyway, must work.

    Bye

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:42

    They have stuff on the moon that is not available here in sufficient quantities. The moon has deposits of Helium 3(I think that is what it is-must check) that can be used for nuclear fusion and is capable of yielding vast amounts of energy. Any private company that can secure the mining rights stands to make a lot of cash.

    I don't see who has the right to sell the mining rights? Why would you want to destroy the moon too? Have they not done enough damage down here?

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:43

    I don't see who has the right to sell the mining rights? Why would you want to destroy the moon too? Have they not done enough damage down here?

    Ha! Why would you destroy a national park, or a country?!

    *not here*

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:44

    I don't see who has the right to sell the mining rights? Why would you want to destroy the moon too? Have they not done enough damage down here?

    I have no idea how they sort out the rights. I am sure they could mine without doing much damage up there.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:46

    I have no idea how they sort out the rights. I am sure they could mine without doing much damage up there.

    Why would they bother though? It's always cheaper to just rip things out and damn the consequences.

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 22:47

    I am sure they could mine without doing much damage up there.

    They'd need to - vacuum is their one useful advantage, they don't want to be releasing gases

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:47

    Why would they bother though? It's always cheaper to just rip things out and damn the consequences.

    The moon is basicly a lump of dead rock. There is no atmosphere or life to destroy.

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 22:48

    There is no atmosphere or life to destroy.

    You can create an atmosphere (of whatever), is that destroying the non-atmosphere?

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:48

    The moon is basicly a lump of dead rock. There is no atmosphere or life to destroy.

    But I like it up there. I wish they'd leave it alone. I don't trust people not to abuse whatever they find up there.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:48

    The moon is basicly a lump of dead rock. There is no atmosphere or life to destroy.

    There's all the cheese.

    *still not here*

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 22:49

    The moon is basicly a lump of dead rock. There is no atmosphere or life to destroy.

    Isnt it in balance with the earth or something? so would mean we'd come out of sync with something or other?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:49

    You can create an atmosphere (of whatever), is that destroying the non-atmosphere?

    Interesting thought.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:50

    But I like it up there. I wish they'd leave it alone. I don't trust people not to abuse whatever they find up there.

    Either we never leave the planet or we have to exploit the available resources wherever we go. It make more sense to practise on the moon rather than some of the more complex places we go.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 22:51

    christine likes the who?

    who's on playlist?

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:51

    Isnt it in balance with the earth or something? so would mean we'd come out of sync with something or other?

    Bruce Willis will sort that out. (dont you watch any movies?!)

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:51

    Either we never leave the planet or we have to exploit the available resources wherever we go. It make more sense to practise on the moon rather than some of the more complex places we go.

    I'm sure I can live out my life without resorting to that! I'm sure a lot more people could as well if they'd be sensible and not destroy things.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:52

    Isnt it in balance with the earth or something? so would mean we'd come out of sync with something or other?

    I doubt we could remove enough bulk to do that

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 22:52

    who's on playlist?

    :)

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:53

    I doubt we could remove enough bulk to do that

    Do we know what's in there? You could drill into it and have it all crumble into nothing.....

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:53

    I'm sure I can live out my life without resorting to that! I'm sure a lot more people could as well if they'd be sensible and not destroy things.

    One day we have to leave the planet and we need to learn what we can.

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:53

    One day we have to leave the planet and we need to learn what we can.

    In all honesty I'd rather die here....

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 22:53

    Do we know what's in there? You could drill into it and have it all crumble into nothing.....

    Water, and Helium 3 like Steven previously said.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:54

    Do we know what's in there? You could drill into it and have it all crumble into nothing.....

    It's as solid as the Earth since they were both part of the same lump of rock at one time before there was a little incident that lopped off the moon from the rest.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 22:54

    One day we have to leave the planet and we need to learn what we can.

    maybe we'll hollow out the planet and fly the whole thing around like a big spaceship? That's my plan and I'm sticking with it!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:55

    In all honesty I'd rather die here....

    No sense of adventure

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:55

    Water, and Helium 3 like Steven previously said.

    And who knows what deep down

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 22:56

    maybe we'll hollow out the planet and fly the whole thing around like a big spaceship? That's my plan and I'm sticking with it!

    Who's driving?

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 22:56

    Not until it's too expensive to mine earth. By that time........

    I'd suggest that the kind of technology that is needed to make it economical is way beyond any single government or company. The US playing around with NASA is small fry.

    There are exotics such as Helium 3 which may eventually be useful but for the majority of stuff, landfill will become a more economically viable option for mining.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:56

    maybe we'll hollow out the planet and fly the whole thing around like a big spaceship? That's my plan and I'm sticking with it!

    I don't think the atmosphere would stand up to be blasted out into space

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 22:56

    I doubt we could remove enough bulk to do that

    yeah but once we start we wouldnt stop. its the human way

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 22:56

    No sense of adventure

    I just know that people tend to destroy things. We've been given a pretty big planet to mess up already. I can't see why we deserve another one.

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 22:57

    You can create an atmosphere (of whatever), is that destroying the non-atmosphere?

    The moon sort of has an atmosphere, in that there are gases kept close to the surface by the moons gravity. But the "atmosphere's" density is so low as to not really count as an atmosphere. The moons gravity isn't strong enough to keep any significant amount of released gas close to the surface.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 22:57

    Who's driving?

    Christine. I have decided. I think she'd be ideal. We need a sense of adventure here and I believe she's a bit keen on the accelerator pedal.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:57

    I'd suggest that the kind of technology that is needed to make it economical is way beyond any single government or company. The US playing around with NASA is small fry.

    Any moon mission is going to involve most or all the major space agencies

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 22:58

    I don't think the atmosphere would stand up to be blasted out into space

    atmosphere smatmosphere. That's what I say. I mean I say that now, and buy the time there is no atmosphere you won't be able to hear me say it so what difference does it make? ;)

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:58

    yeah but once we start we wouldnt stop. its the human way

    It would take a very long time to ship out that amount of bulk and there would be no benefit to most of it.

  • paul04/02/2010 at 22:59

    atmosphere smatmosphere. That's what I say. I mean I say that now, and buy the time there is no atmosphere you won't be able to hear me say it so what difference does it make? ;)

    I'm not sure I heard you say smatmosphere. How do you pronounce that?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 22:59

    I just know that people tend to destroy things. We've been given a pretty big planet to mess up already. I can't see why we deserve another one.

    We have a whole solar system to ourselves so why not explore?

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 22:59

    atmosphere smatmosphere. That's what I say. I mean I say that now, and buy the time there is no atmosphere you won't be able to hear me say it so what difference does it make? ;)

    Two words: atmosphere shield

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 22:59

    His mistake was dropping to a lower Formula after being underwhelming in F1

    worked for Glock {Comment #327}

    Glock scored two points on his debut. That's not underwhelming...

  • Alison04/02/2010 at 23:00

    We have a whole solar system to ourselves so why not explore?

    Someone else might want it once we've blown ourselves up....

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 23:00

    I'm not sure I heard you say smatmosphere. How do you pronounce that?

    I pronounce it smatmosphere. As in smat-moss-sphere

  • RG04/02/2010 at 23:00

    atmosphere smatmosphere. That's what I say. I mean I say that now, and buy the time there is no atmosphere you won't be able to hear me say it so what difference does it make? ;)

    You know what, it will still have more atmosphere than turkey

    *Gets coat

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:00

    I'm not sure I heard you say smatmosphere. How do you pronounce that?

    I am sure it will turn up on Giggles Radio soon enough

  • paul04/02/2010 at 23:01

    I pronounce it smatmosphere. As in smat-moss-sphere

    :D

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 23:01

    Two words: atmosphere shield

    exactly! See Pat W. I think you might be an important part of this project with ideas like that!

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 23:01

    I just know that people tend to destroy things. We've been given a pretty big planet to mess up already. I can't see why we deserve another one.

    If all we did was destroy, then we wouldn't be here.

    Yes, we do tend to destroy a lot of stuff, but on the whole I think we're getting better at NOT destroying stuff. Change will take a long time, though.

  • RG04/02/2010 at 23:01

    Glock scored two points on his debut. That's not underwhelming...

    I like you Alianora.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:02

    You know what, it will still have more atmosphere than turkey

    :D

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 23:02

    The moon sort of has an atmosphere, in that there are gases kept close to the surface by the moons gravity. But the "atmosphere's" density is so low as to not really count as an atmosphere. The moons gravity isn't strong enough to keep any significant amount of released gas close to the surface.

    Most gas molecules are too slow to reach escape velocity but they occasionally bump into each other though and get enough of a kick to manage it. The result is that it took a long time for the moon to have virtually no atmosphere and if you pumped out loads of CO2 it would hang around.

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 23:03

    Have you watched Avatar? {Comment #370}

    I saw the 2D version last Wednesday - lots of fun. Particularly liked the plot (which sounds strange unless I tell you it seemed to have several levels of depth below the obvious three-sentence-long overaching one) and the graphics.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 23:04

    Most gas molecules are too slow to reach escape velocity but they occasionally bump into each other though and get enough of a kick to manage it. The result is that it took a long time for the moon to have virtually no atmosphere and if you pumped out loads of CO2 it would hang around.

    neat... I am planning to watch Pink Floyd perform Dark Side of the Moon on the Dark Side of the Moon. Is this likely?

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 23:04

    neat... I am planning to watch Pink Floyd perform Dark Side of the Moon on the Dark Side of the Moon. Is this likely?

    Better bring a jacket, it's kind of cold over there :)

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:05

    neat... I am planning to watch Pink Floyd perform Dark Side of the Moon on the Dark Side of the Moon. Is this likely?

    Only if there is an atmosphere or you won't hear anything

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 23:05

    Glock scored two points on his debut. That's not underwhelming...

    I like you Alianora. {Comment #654}

    It's only the truth, RG :) Especially when you remember that was 40% of the team's entire points score for the year...

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:05

    OMG!!! i've finally found the name of a female f1 photographer! brilliant! i was beginning to think they didn't exist!

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 23:05

    exactly! See Pat W. I think you might be an important part of this project with ideas like that!

    Thanks, I do my best.

    Are we taking the Sun with us or will we have to simulate it?

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 23:05

    neat... I am planning to watch Pink Floyd perform Dark Side of the Moon on the Dark Side of the Moon. Is this likely?

    They're unlikely to still be around then. However, the Rolling Stones might be planning yet another come back tour...

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:05

    OMG!!! i've finally found the name of a female f1 photographer! brilliant! i was beginning to think they didn't exist!

    What's her name?

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 23:06

    OMG!!! i've finally found the name of a female f1 photographer! brilliant! i was beginning to think they didn't exist!

    Woo!

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:06

    What's her name?

    emily davenport

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 23:06

    They're unlikely to still be around then. However, the Rolling Stones might be planning yet another come back tour...

    lick the moon?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:06

    emily davenport

    Never heard of her

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:06

    What's her name?

    emily davenport

    she's on twitter.

    https://twitter.com/davenportemily

  • Andy Taylor04/02/2010 at 23:06

    neat... I am planning to watch Pink Floyd perform Dark Side of the Moon on the Dark Side of the Moon. Is this likely?

    There is no Dark Side.

  • RG04/02/2010 at 23:06

    It's only the truth, RG :) Especially when you remember that was 40% of the team's entire points score for the year...

    ...

    I'll be using that for my blog, thanks.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 23:06

    Thanks, I do my best.

    Are we taking the Sun with us or will we have to simulate it?

    I have a lamp...

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:07

    Never heard of her

    me neither. i only found her through looking at who James Moy follows on twitter :) but she exists, tis good enough for me :)

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 23:07

    I have a lamp...

    you should get a Helium 3 powered lamp.

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 23:07

    There is no Dark Side.

    Tell that to Obi Wan

  • RG04/02/2010 at 23:08

    emily davenport

    Related to Calum?

    Actually, I hope not

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:08

    me neither. i only found her through looking at who James Moy follows on twitter :) but she exists, tis good enough for me :)

    You should contact her

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 23:08

    There is no Dark Side.

    indeed not. As is obvious from the earthrise photo. We are so obsessed with being the center it's quite amazing.

  • Andy Taylor04/02/2010 at 23:08

    Tell that to Obi Wan

    :D

  • paul04/02/2010 at 23:09

    Tell that to Obi Wan

    LOL !

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 23:09

    There is no Dark Side.

    Tell that to Obi Wan

    hah

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 23:09

    Tell that to Obi Wan

    :)

    maybe he meant there is no spoon

  • RG04/02/2010 at 23:09

    Tell that to Obi Wan

    :D

    Thats gannin on the wiki.

  • Andy Taylor04/02/2010 at 23:10

    indeed not. As is obvious from the earthrise photo. We are so obsessed with being the center it's quite amazing.

    To be fair, we do that because otherwise our brains would melt. (See Douglas Adams on the "Total Perspective Vortex)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:10

    Related to Calum?

    not a clue :)

  • paul04/02/2010 at 23:10

    Tell that to Obi Wan

    Oops! Just got a "what are you laughing at" stare.

    hehehehehe

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 23:11

    gah. what is it with spam this week! {Comment #455}

    You must be getting all my spam. This is the first week since I opened commenting up to anyone and everyone two-and-a-half years ago when I've received absolutely no spam...

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:11

    You should contact her

    that is a very very good idea. It's funny i've been looking in f1 racing, and on web pages for female f1 photographers for ages and never seen one.

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 23:12

    OMG!!! i've finally found the name of a female f1 photographer! brilliant! i was beginning to think they didn't exist! {Comment #662}

    Way to go, Emily Davenport!

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 23:13

    I'm having creativity issues with blogging. It seems that inventing atmosphere shields and thinking of ways to simulate the sun are more interesting.

  • Alex Andronov04/02/2010 at 23:14

    To be fair, we do that because otherwise our brains would melt. (See Douglas Adams on the "Total Perspective Vortex)

    we make the mistake even when we are trying to prentend we aren't making the mistake though. That, I guess, is the problem.

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 23:14

    ...thinking of ways to simulate the sun are more interesting.

    Have you tried pressing that switch on the wall near the doorway?

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:15

    I'm having creativity issues with blogging. It seems that inventing atmosphere shields and thinking of ways to simulate the sun are more interesting.

    Blog about that

  • jpancoast (Don't cry for me ARGENTINA!)04/02/2010 at 23:15

    we make the mistake even when we are trying to prentend we aren't making the mistake though. That, I guess, is the problem.

    it's easy to make, considering we live on the earth, because there is a side of the moon that never faces the earth.

    Just have to remember we're not the center of it all ;)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:15

    oooo she has the most lovely website..

    http://emilydavenport.com/

    plus she has the most amazing gallery!!

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 23:15

    Have you tried pressing that switch on the wall near the doorway?

    Yes. It doesn't make a large orange ball appear in the sky.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 23:15

    Blog about that

    Probably wouldn't go down well on a racing site.

  • RG04/02/2010 at 23:16

    I'm having creativity issues with blogging. It seems that inventing atmosphere shields and thinking of ways to simulate the sun are more interesting.

    Want to swap, I have too much to blog about in too little time.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:17

    oooo she has the most lovely website..

    http://emilydavenport.com/

    plus she has the most amazing gallery!!

    That looks like Rubens on the front of her site

  • Maverick04/02/2010 at 23:17

    Yes. It doesn't make a large orange ball appear in the sky.

    Oh, replicate? I thought you meant simulate

  • paul04/02/2010 at 23:17

    Yes. It doesn't make a large orange ball appear in the sky.

    You have the wrong sort of light shade then

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:17

    Probably wouldn't go down well on a racing site.

    Start a space blog

  • Andy Taylor04/02/2010 at 23:18

    oooo she has the most lovely website..

    Good news is she is asking for people to contact her.

    Bad news is she appears to be a Canon user. ;)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:19

    That looks like Rubens on the front of her site

    i can't link to it... but the picture within the random section of her gallery of Heikki (in the renault) crashing is spectacular!!! (image 10 of 18)

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 23:20

    oooo she has the most lovely website..

    She has an amazing pic of Vettel in Singapore I want to use as my wallpaper, but she's using one of those flash things that prevents me from doing so! (Good on her, as it stops people stealing them for profit, but it's a pain for me!)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:20

    Good news is she is asking for people to contact her.

    *jumps up and down with excitement*

    Bad news is she appears to be a Canon user. ;)

    i have a feeling if i make it into the paddock i'll be a Canon user too :P

  • Lukeh04/02/2010 at 23:21

    Time to head off. Big meeting in the morning concernign dissertation :( night all

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 23:21

    i can't link to it... but the picture within the random section of her gallery of Heikki (in the renault) crashing is spectacular!!! (image 10 of 18)

    Wow!

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:22

    Time to head off. Big meeting in the morning concernign dissertation :( night all

    night Lukeh! best of luck for the meeting!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:22

    Time to head off. Big meeting in the morning concernign dissertation :( night all

    Good night

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 23:22

    Time to head off. Big meeting in the morning concernign dissertation :( night all

    Night sir!

  • Andy Taylor04/02/2010 at 23:23

    i have a feeling if i make it into the paddock i'll be a Canon user too :P

    Noooooooo!

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 23:28

    i hear alot of moaning about Norton, what exactly do they do wrong? {Comment #498}

    Norton anti-virus is notoriously resource-hungry. The latest version is supposed to have an intelligent method of figuring out when to operate. Only it does the opposite of what you'd think an intelligent method should on my computer - it operates the most when the CPU is already completely busy doing other stuff and then does very little if the CPU is inactive.

    At least this version is compatible with The Sims 2 and doesn't require a Windows re-install within a week of being put on, which is what happened when I last tried a Norton anti-virus program back in 2005.

    To be fair, it has a very good track record of spotting and removing viruses.

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:30

    Noooooooo!

    hehehe not out of choice ;) Canon lend expensive equipment to f1 photographers and agencies.. it seems sensible to go with them when Nikon may not do the same thing ;)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:38

    i just read her about page (after flicking through her gallery) she says she is the only permanent female f1 photographer!

    it makes this evening and the last 5 weeks totally worth while. now to compose an email :D

  • Andy Taylor04/02/2010 at 23:40

    Norton anti-virus is notoriously resource-hungry. The latest version is supposed to have an intelligent method of figuring out when to operate. Only it does the opposite of what you'd think an intelligent method should on my computer - it operates the most when the CPU is already completely busy doing other stuff and then does very little if the CPU is inactive.

    My colleague saw a PC today which wouldn't let its owner boot it properly because his Norton sub had expired. Without paying up, he was locked out of the machine.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:42

    !

    i just read her about page (after flicking through her gallery) she says she is the only permanent female f1 photographer!

    it makes this evening and the last 5 weeks totally worth while. now to compose an email :D

    She has done covers for AUTOSPORT, Autocourse and Auto Hebdo. You have to be good to get those. Stuart must know her then

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 23:42

    oooo she has the most lovely website..

    http://emilydavenport.com/

    plus she has the most amazing gallery!! {Comment #696}

    I'm particularly impressed by Emily's use of light and shadow. Ironically the one photo of hers I definitely have (because it appeared on the front cover of an Autosport in my collection) doesn't use this as a notable feature but still looks good.

  • guille230604/02/2010 at 23:43

    hello sidepodpeople! I've been a little the non-interactive side of the internet (a.k.a. lurking) the last days. work year has kicked in... but I hope I'm back now. so what have I missed?

    i have a feeling if i make it into the paddock i'll be a Canon user too :P

    and that's something I never though I would hear. it's obviously a very good choice, and this opinion has nothing to do with me being a Canon user... ;-)

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:47

    i (heart) scott speed:

    @jpmontoya just tried to wreck half the field... Sure Kurt isn't happy with him lol

    http://twitter.com/scottspeed/status/8652947555

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 23:48

    Bah, I just got rickrolled for the first time in about 6 months!

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:48

    joe says off seasons should be longer: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/thoughts-with-a-glass-of-wine/

    (well, not exactly)

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:48

    She has done covers for AUTOSPORT, Autocourse and Auto Hebdo. You have to be good to get those. Stuart must know her then

    this is totally awesome. i think it's just made my year.. :D can't.stop.smiling.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:49

    Hi Guille.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:50

    this is totally awesome. i think it's just made my year.. :D can't.stop.smiling.

    Have you heard back from any of the other photographers you contacted?

  • Andy Taylor04/02/2010 at 23:50

    Bah, I just got rickrolled for the first time in about 6 months!

    If you go to a link and find the Elephant Man singing Never Gonna Give You Up then you've been Merrick rolled.

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:50

    joe says off seasons should be longer: http://joesawa...with-a-glass-of-wine/

    I am not very keen on Joe's latest photo of himself.

  • Chris04/02/2010 at 23:51

    If you go to a link and find the Elephant Man singing Never Gonna Give You Up then you've been Merrick rolled.

    Well, actually I was barrac rolled. Great video for that one!

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:51

    Have you heard back from any of the other photographers you contacted?

    sadly not :( i've heard nothing from Lorenzo *sob*

    I did get a few tips and advice from Clive Mason even though he seemed super busy.

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 23:51

    joe says off seasons should be longer: http://joesawa...with-a-glass-of-wine/

    i heart joe

    I am not very keen on Joe's latest photo of himself.

    i prefer it ot his last one!

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:51

    I am not very keen on Joe's latest photo of himself.

    it's no good telling me :)

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:52

    sadly not :( i've heard nothing from Lorenzo *sob*

    You need to hassle them again before the season starts.

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:53

    i heart joe

    he seems to have morphed into the mole. is he saying that a delusional stefan-whatshisname is better then a dodgy campos?

    *goes to get more wine*

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:53

    it's no good telling me :)

    It's not exactly important. I just think the last one was better. Personal taste and nothing else

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:53

    You need to hassle them again before the season starts.

    i don't want to be too pushy though?

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:53

    sadly not :( i've heard nothing from Lorenzo *sob*

    i never did get a grid explaining thirds from darren either.

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:54

    It's not exactly important. I just think the last one was better. Personal taste and nothing else

    he need lou to take some snaps in london...

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 23:54

    i don't want to be too pushy though?

    doooo itttt

  • guille230604/02/2010 at 23:54

    he seems to have morphed into the mole. is he saying that a delusional stefan-whatshisname is better then a dodgy campos?

    I think is the other way around....

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:55

    I think is the other way around....

    who is/are the "deluded dreamer or two"?

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:55

    i never did get a grid explaining thirds from darren either.

    i first emailed darren a few years ago and he got back to me like 6months later, i replied and still to this day haven't heard from him again.

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 23:56

    he seems to have morphed into the mole. is he saying that a delusional stefan-whatshisname is better then a dodgy campos?

    I assumed he meant a dodgy Teixeira

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 23:56

    I think is the other way around....

    I thought that too, at first

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:56

    he need lou to take some snaps in london...

    hmm london?.. what's happening in london? (i may have missed some things due to revision and the fact i haven't opened my feed reader in a few weeks).

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:56

    i don't want to be too pushy though?

    You were not being too pushy at the end of the season and if you don't do something before the start of the season you will be in the same situation for another year. Sign up for a Gmail address and send them a short e-mail telling them that you have e-mailed them so they have your up to date details because you don't want to miss out on them sending you the advice they said earlier.

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:56

    hmm london?.. what's happening in london? (i may have missed some things due to revision and the fact i haven't opened my feed reader in a few weeks).

    http://www.morienval.com/aneveningwithjoe.html

  • guille230604/02/2010 at 23:57

    who is/are the "deluded dreamer or two"?

    campos. stephan-something is definitely the just anywhere gangster (or at least he fits the role...)

  • Jon Waldock04/02/2010 at 23:57

    hmm london?.. what's happening in london? (i may have missed some things due to revision and the fact i haven't opened my feed reader in a few weeks).

    An Aside With Joe LIVE (kinda)

  • Alianora La Canta04/02/2010 at 23:57

    i (heart) scott speed:

    @jpmontoya just tried to wreck half the field... Sure Kurt isn't happy with him lol {Comment #721}

    Some things never change...

  • me04/02/2010 at 23:57

    An Aside With Joe LIVE (kinda)

    alive aside (tm)

  • Pat W04/02/2010 at 23:58

    who is/are the "deluded dreamer or two"?

    I read this to be Adrian Campos (and maybe also Peter Windsor):

    "it may be that it is best for Main Street to have a deluded dreamer or two who will turn up for a bit and then default on the mortgage"

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:58

    he need lou to take some snaps in london...

    Exactly. A nice credit on Joe's site would help her profile. Lou also needs a website like a professional photographers

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:58

    You were not being too pushy at the end of the season and if you don't do something before the start of the season you will be in the same situation for another year. Sign up for a Gmail address and send them a short e-mail telling them that you have e-mailed them so they have your up to date details because you don't want to miss out on them sending you the advice they said earlier.

    ahhh good plan!

  • Steven Roy04/02/2010 at 23:58

    hmm london?.. what's happening in london? (i may have missed some things due to revision and the fact i haven't opened my feed reader in a few weeks).

    Joe is doing an eveing with Joe

  • lou04/02/2010 at 23:59

    http://www.mor...aneveningwithjoe.html

    omg! i'm back at school by then.. but it's a friday so... hmmm i shall consult my rentals in the morning and see what they think :)

  • Steven Roy05/02/2010 at 00:00

    omg! i'm back at school by then.. but it's a friday so... hmmm i shall consult my rentals in the morning and see what they think :)

    There are only 100 spaces so don't leave it too long

  • lou05/02/2010 at 00:00

    Lou also needs a website like a professional photographers

    i wouldn't know where to start with making one :) i'm fine with flickr for the moment i think :)

  • lou05/02/2010 at 00:00

    There are only 100 spaces so don't leave it too long

    is 7 hours too long? cause i can guess what the answer would be if i woke them now... :)

  • Steven Roy05/02/2010 at 00:01

    i wouldn't know where to start with making one :) i'm fine with flickr for the moment i think :)

    You need one to point photographers at. I am sure there are people round here who know how to make a website

  • me05/02/2010 at 00:02

    is 7 hours too long? cause i can guess what the answer would be if i woke them now... :)

    :)

  • guille230605/02/2010 at 00:02

    You need one to point photographers at. I am sure there are people round here who know how to make a website

    if everything fails, check JAlbum

  • Steven Roy05/02/2010 at 00:03

    is 7 hours too long? cause i can guess what the answer would be if i woke them now... :)

    I have no idea how many spaces are left. You could hassle Emily now though

  • lou05/02/2010 at 00:04

    I have no idea how many spaces are left. You could hassle Emily now though

    not sure Em would want to come, i shall ask. i have a feeling that she may be wanting to come to goodwood which is awesome :)

  • Pat W05/02/2010 at 00:05

    not sure Em would want to come, i shall ask. i have a feeling that she may be wanting to come to goodwood which is awesome :)

    *cough* the other one

  • Steven Roy05/02/2010 at 00:05

    not sure Em would want to come, i shall ask. i have a feeling that she may be wanting to come to goodwood which is awesome :)

    She doesn't want to meet all the sidepodpeeps who are going

  • lou05/02/2010 at 00:07

    She doesn't want to meet all the sidepodpeeps who are going

    i'm sure she does (she hearts sidepodcast) but i think money may be an issue. I'll certainly ask though :)