We're all feeling the after effects of staying up/getting up to watch what was essentially a non-existant Free Practice session. Well, I say "we" but I slept through all bar one installation lap from Alguersuari. Anyway, we're hoping for more action today, no doubt. Here are some of the things we're talking about in lieu of any on track stuff:
- Glock was unwell yesterday, but the team are pretty sure he'll be okay to get back in the car today. Kobayashi took a turn behind the wheel but it was hardly an exciting debut at his home circuit. At least it gave the fans another driver to look out for though, while they waited.
- Whilst we're on the subject of Toyota, Trulli reckons he'll have a seat in F1 next year, although whether it is with Toyota or not remains to be seen. The team are supposed to be chasing heavily after Robert Kubica, who is weighing up the options. Will Renault be attractive to the Pole though?
- Vettel is still mad about his drive through penalty from last weekend, suggesting that he cut the corner of the timing beam and that's why the sensors thought he was speeding. He says there should be a speed penalty not a distance penalty. Perhaps he's right?
That'll do it for now. We'll be along with plenty more in the way of threads, results and podcasts throughout the day, so stay tuned and as ever, I'll see you in the comments.
Daily jump
Speaking of holidays...
I really need to speak to my friend in Athens
Come to think of it, I should check the SidepodListner's map
[I am an eternal optimist at heart]
ah-ha, a new day.
my body hates f1.
aww. more meetups please!
People need to start showing up soon! ;)
they are lots of fun, sidepodpeoples are so nice :D
Hey Bootneck
Oh my word some people are daft. Name a country that has a flag with stars on it.... Sweden. The next guy, Russia. For goodness sake....
Morning, everyone.
Good morning listening for you and me:
Motor Sport Magazine October Podcast
Hi Journeyer
Have you wangled that business meeting in Belgium for next August yet? :)
Cost-cutting business and flat profit says no, sadly. :(
Coming in a little on the, ahem, tanked up side... I have to wonder what sort of state I'll be in in 5 and a bit hours time :(
Something tells me I wont be able to answer questions on what happened in qualifying in detail this weekend :(
there will be questions later,
Hi Kris, crack open a fresh one and join us
Whyever not... A friend bought me a nice bottle of doublewood that needs christening today...
Hi Kris. Wassat?
As I am confused, is FP3 at the same time FP1 was?
For some reason I've ended up in yesterday again.... I said I'm considering Melbourne next season, but it seems greedy to have too much F1 all at once!
A good single malt :)
No, it's 3am UK
6am for Qualy
Ahh.
nope 1hr later. 3am.
I'll repeat my answer then
Amy been whispering in your ear?
Amy hasn't been bullying me into Australia. She's happy to go there by herself. She's desperate for a Monza buddy!
Righto. Will miss that then.
And 5am BBC, I remember that bit (am right now writing the very late blog post of weekend events..).I need to not sleep through it. In fact I'll set the DVR now.
Oz is lovely but is a long way to go for a race. If you can make a holiday out of it though...
Noooooo! I'm in NZ when it's on. Blimey I'm not mental.....
I have two failing DVD Recorders
I need a PVR
#sorryamy
oops wrong thread...
Its not cheap I know... i guess i will have to hope for an xmas present!!
or maybe 5livef1can help
Argos have one of those, spend £100 get £20 in vouchers offers on, which given the fact that everyone and their dog needs to convert to freeview at the monent is likely to be as good an offer as you'll see
We're paying roughly that, less than that, for the good stands at Spa.
Definitely. It changed the way I watch telly.
Nurofen & Merlot should be a registered treatment for sore throats
Works for me
I don't watch much and record less than I want to as they've become unreliable
I need to speak to Virgin about a V+ box
I just thought I should get an HD set in the main room first
[bedroom already has one with freeview]
Richer Sounds > Argos
Everytime
What is a PVR?
They certainly know their onions with audio equipment, no idea on the visual side
Everyone loves leaving their dad to choose their electrical equipment for them :P
I don't watch as much 'on broadcast' any more, though I still channel-hop from time to time (still find it a good way to discover new stuff I wouldn't have chosen from an on-demand list). If I know something is on I set it to record and catch it later. The problem is remembering to check what is on.
Yeah I know but I always compute it from where I'm travelling from, and flight to Dubai is £570 return and me living 20 mins from Dover means diesel and ferry work out about £50. There's not much difference in the cost of a GP ticket really none are really outragesly pricey it's the getting there and the staying there that cost.
Personal Video Recorder. Like Freeview+, Sky+.. Has a hard disc in it which can store more stuff than any one person could conceivably watch.
Okay. Yeah my parents have one of those. It's a magic freeview box, harddisk recorder with a DVR in it so you can burn things if you want to. It's mystical but I can't make it work properly.
Some of us are going to Spa as a road trip via the tunnel.
They are quite Audio/Visual now and always have great deals on good equipment
Not just cheap tat
They're alright. Mines about 75% full of movies
Thomson 250Gb
Then you'll either be picking me up on the way, or stopping over en-route then we'll all be off in the morning.
How did you ever make it this far? ;)
humax is the brand to go for though
Mine has racing and documentaries I stumble across. With films I find they are halfway through before I know they are on.
♥
I filled up a 1TB external HDD
Bought another
I could work out digs for about a dozen if we wanted to us kent as a staging post before getting on ferry or going through the pipe.
Seconded!
We had a rough idea of meeting in London the night before since we're from all over the place. Pretty relaxed plan so far though, nothing decided at all.
That could be quite useful for some.
I'm only about 1.5 hrs away from Dover but it's a good option
Very generous! We need to do a headcount and find out what people want to do. Lou is in Kent and someone needs to pick her up too.
I'm more than happy to get a person or two. Mock my car and you walk though :P
She hasn't filled in her options on the wiki yet
I'm gonna give her detention soon
I'm coming up from Dorset. It is 3.5 hours direct from here to the tunnel much more if you hit the M25 at a bad time. Dad tells me to allow an hour for the tunnel and 3.5hrs from there to Spa.
How many days headstart do you need? ;)
It's okay. Alphonso is asleep for the night. He didn't hear you.....
I mean to say, for me it could be done in a day... I much prefer the idea of a bunch of us meeting up somewhere first though.
Yeah, if I remember Lou is down Ashford way so thats nearer to Dover than me, but we could stage anywhere in Kent within reason there's nowhere I dont know and there's a good chance I could sort some sort of accomodation out for an over-night staging post pretty much anywhere between M25 and Dover. Just let me know what people think and want to do. And how the F*** do I highlight the comment I'm trying to reply to, MY brains been tampered with by the NHS. I'm losing it.
I can't go in a day from here. It's a pretty full day's drive to the south coast for me. I have friends I can stay with in London though.
Good stuff. It'll be a while before we sort that side of things out I expect.
If you're in /Realtime or /Livecommenting just click the comment.
Yes. Us.
(as in SPCers)
Depends on your commenting method
If Doohickey, click reply then the text of the post you want to quote
LCLT is similar, just omit the reply box
Hahahaha
I has to sleep, poor JonJam must make the most of a lack of drunk people outside his room! Night all
That'll be one drink-up I'll have to go easy on
Night Jon
Depends on your commenting method
Ah see I was'nt even in the right world.
Night
Definitely...
Ye Olde Comments? :)
http://www.sidepodcast.com/realtime/
I'm still hoping my mate tags along, I'll get him to do the journey home :)
Don't want to go too far down this road but do keep me informed and I'll get on to the wiki and sort stuff out from my end. Just so's I dont get detention n all
Let him drive your car???
Me thinks it sounds like the car may drive him whilst Alison snoozes after the weekends racing.......
Yeah, on the way back
I don't think I'd be allowed in Alphonso after the ribbing I've given the little fella
I'm not coming straight back to the UK afterwards. I'm off on holiday. Need to bring my camping stuffs. I really want my bike but I'm not going all that way with it on the roof again.....
Having said that, it's probably an innovative way to avoid traffic at the track...
Bootlid carrier?
We have 18-22 people so far, but not all want to do the road trip, some want to do Eurostar or are coming from the other direction completely.
How does anyone manage to follow 1328 people on Twitter?
My dad has one of those, I could try it on my car I guess.
Ah, so there are TwitterAutoFollowBots
Where's the block button?
And the last thing they said when I left hospital today was get plenty of rest....... so SPC ers I'm off to the land of nod for about an hour, be up for P3 hopefully, dont tell the nurse. seeyou all in da morning.
Night.
See ya Bootneck
The N-word race this week is called the "Price Chopper 400 presented by Kraft Foods"
Night! :D
when you all planning on going?
Its no Heluva Good at the glen!
Where, Spa?
GP weekend is Aug 27 - 29th 2010
Good idea! Bicycle taxi service for the drunks!?
One of the reason's why I'm not a fan
I'm very advert averse these days
Some will be at home watching on tv, so just you better not have any fun, that's all I'm saying
;-)
Cool how much is it looking like?
Genearl Admission is about £100 sterling for the weekend.
Eau Rouge Grandstands around £300
Hotels, camping & travel to account for too
I have a quick question, from Canada, for the F1 coverage on the Beeb, are there any commercials, or is there a picture-in-picture thing? Is that the same for Top Gear?
No adverts on the Beeb at all
We pay an annual licence fee instead
There are no in-programme ads on the BBC.
The BBC is a public broadcaster so no adverts!
But we do have to pay £126 odd a year!
and the rest of the world appreciates that :D
Yup all BBC TV & Radio programming
F1Scoop tweeting Glock to race.
Noble saying decision in 15min.
Thankfully, not everyone can workaround the geolocking
So the commercials would be pre-pre-race show, between the pre-race and the race and after the driver interview? How long would the commercial periods be?
Oh, neither can I. But I get good replays
Kobayahi Fever may get real bad, real soon ;)
You don't understand. We don't have adverts. We pay a licence fee for our programming.
There are none. Ever. At all
This is a strange concept to N. Americans I realise
Hard to believe isn't it!
We do have commercial channels however but they are poo
Apart from the Ch 4 family
There are a few promos for other BBC content. These can last anything from 3 minutes down to absolutely nothing, depending if they are running to time..
Do little truck drive around to see if you are watching the Beeb?
The promos would be in-show overlays I am guessing?
If you own a TV, legally you must have a licence. Yes, they do check
You're not allowed to watch any channel live without a licence.... Yeah they do try and check up on it.
We are consistently bombarded with tie-ins and crossovers to other BBC shows though. Like the endless dancing show mentions. Much better this year now I'm not watching so much TV.
Nope. Before or after, not during
What a concept! ;)
Nope. Fullscreen between programs.
No. Mainly between programmes.
It has been known for a few to prove that they cannot receive BBC programming and not pay the licence fee.
That was before the digital age, mind
I have to say though, the commerical channels are becoming more American in style with more in-show overlays but usually these are in the minutes before the current show ends (and are annoying because they time them for the cliffhanger, completely ruining the moment..).
BBC is probably one of the best world wide. The Australian ABC follows a similar concept, but they dont have F1, booooo.
You are talking to a guy who watches the previous show's credits in a picture-in-picture over the start of the next show.
It was just a discussion with a buddy with whom I watch Top Gear on BC Canada, with commercial in-show.
I (heart) the BBC
I still think the Indy 500 refers to the ad content
Not as many as the Daytona 500..
The Beeb is the shizzle :)
We're getting product placement back though.... That's never a good thing.
That's the 'N' thing isn't it, sans corners
We had it before?
yeah.. every year I get excited by it because it is the first major race of the year ('cos the Daytona 24 unfortunately doesn't really count any more). it always disappoints.
Jeez, this F1 Blog downshift guy is irritating!
[hits delete]
Yellow flags, for whatever reason, are very helpful.
It's almost as if they plan it that way...
Almost?
:D
This year, the second tier NASCAR (Nationwide) race in Montreal was won at an average of 87.5 KM/H
Actually that can get really annoying. Was watching the Nationwide from Canada and the last 10 laps almost drove me nuts.
Well THAT sounds like fun
I drive to work quicker than that
5LiveF1 have unsurprisingly told me i cant jump in the com box at Abu Dhabi!
might send them my sidepodradio show to see if it changes their mind :P
You shouldn't have said you were a GP virgin
Booo. Do they know who they are dealing with?
We could take them down if we weren't focussing on Legard
Outrageous. Does this mean we are declaring war on the BBC?
Can we start with Legard?
Maybe that's the problem. Nick should have jsut suggested replacing Legard. Thay are probably scouting around right now
I had this cunning plan to get 3 or 4 hours sleep before practise to go with the one hour I had last night. But I failed.
Seems like a plan
TREASON!! Orff with his/her head!
How convenient is Japan eh? FP3 at lunch time, quali mid afternoon. Love it.
I wanted sympathy!
I had a plan to get 5 hours sleep before qualifying. I failed. I'll go in a minute, just doing a blog thing
Mr C got upset when we started a religion. I don't think he is going to be happy that we declared war while he was sleeping but if he will go to sleep these things are bound to happen.
Hello all
Should have said:
"Nick, from the F1 broadcaster Sidepodradio"
Noble tweets:
Timo Glock is back fit and will return to the Toyota cockpit for the rest of the weekend, team has just confirmed #f1
Hi Joe.
All of these things are true
Ma man! How's it hangin'?
What is the topic?
They work for the beeb, sympathy is for Children In Need
He just wants to kill people off himself #mrcfacts
We love having no adverts on the BBC
Petty good, I'm premedicating for a golf tourny tommorrow morning
I would kill for that. SpeedTV has lots of commericals, FOX is much, much worse
Good plan
I'm on Merlot & Nurofen
[2 dates on Sunday]
I love pointless an amazing quiz show that is keeping me reasonably entertained at the moment.... Everyone loves Alexander Armstrong!
Gotta admit ITV weren't that bad
Budweiser here. What do you expect, I'm an American!
Rupert Murdoch is Evil, it has been proven
Sky TV is just as bad here [well, almost]
Yeah, I think channel 4 is bad but that's only 3/4 minutes 3/4 times an hour. I guess we're spoilt.
Try Budvar, it's the original Czech
Really? I complained to the Broadcast Standards Commision
I did catch the Justin tv broadcast of FP1 and Ant did a good job, would love to listen to him here in the US
Is that the '& Miller' fella?
Maybe I've been watching a different channel?
I saw Pointless earlier. The expert guy in the corner said the Russian flag had vertical stripes. How hard is it to read out loud........wait. Cancel that.
Might be hard to find. I was surprized to find Kingfisher to celebrate Fisi's podium
There must be a feed for R5L commentary somewhere
Or learn to hack the geotagging
SpeedTV has been in a free-fall for 4-5 years. We used to get same-weekned tape-delay: DTM, WRC, Dakar. It's now NASCAR, F1 (which I have ample in Canada), and MotoGP. Other than that it's faux0reality-TV
Peroni is a great Italian beer too
Amy gets the BBC feed in Australia by some devious method. You should have a word with her when she re-generates
Hehehe I love it. It is Armstrong of & Millar fame. The main premise is to guess answers to questions that you expect as few people in the survey to say as possible. Kinda like reverse family fortunes!
Too close to Pironi.
AMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have a pretty good broadcast here with David Hobbs (the jokester) and Steve Matchett (the straight guy, former Benetton mechanic) but we only see FP2, Qualy and the race
Oh yes, Moto GP at Estoril thiis weekend too
Name a character in Macbeth. Macbeth. No-one would have said that
The guy from Adam & the Ants?
The Speed guys are good. I watched them a few times before the BBC got F1 back.
Heheheh that amused me so so much. I was horrified that only 60 people in the survey said it :P
I think they just broadcast the Beeb show, don't they
Minus some start and finish stuff
Any current news on how Stoner is doing? (I don't follow MotoGP sites)
The guy who was Villeneuve's number two but decided he wanted to be number one half way through a race.
I like the chalk talks
She does have a magic box thingy though!
I thought for a second that maybe no-one would say it because it was so obvious.
They asked Thesps only?
Night All - have fun
You talking about the the Big V or his kid?
I agree and am quite pleased with them. Except Sam Posey's inane essays before the race. He seems to be an authority on F1 and I think he only did one or two races.
I just wrote this. I got distacted by interesting conversation. Now I am going to bed and will hope to see quali live.. I may or may not be online depending how dozy I am :-)
He's back
They are fabulous
Night
Only quali and the race. We get no FP
No one talks about Jr in a good way ;)
No FP3 on the Beeb?
They only get the word feed with comentry, which they interupt and comment on (badly) after ads
I think she has a VPN to use the BBC web feed
Did ITV show quali?
Night Joker & Pat
most of the time...
Including this Canadian, this Montréaler.
I'm talking Australia
General public. 100 people get 100 seconds to answer each question. 40 of them spent 100 seconds trying to come up with a character from Macbeth and couldn't come up with Macbeth
Night to those heading to pillowland
I had lunch opposite NewTown and tried to hack his WiFi :D
Bight Mo
Sneaky. Very sneaky.
Gilles
Hope to see you at GPC 2010
I chose the wrong year to go to Montreal :(
I think thats what she was saying last week, cant remember.
I know somone in dubai who has a VPN for his work so downloads loads of iplayer stuff!
It must have complained too much that it's upstream provider was too slow, or did not properly format packets or something to the effect. JV sold recently (+-6 months ago) got out of NewTown and it was sold to a mid-scale restaurant chain.
5 live say Timo is fine and so is Crofty
James Allen says sunny in Suzuka
When I was in Oz I remember Murray commentating
Which year did you go?
Section 11 or 12, it's the only way to go!
Is there any place you haven't been to??
I chastised R5L for not being able to spell Suzuka :D
South America & Africa
.
.
.
Yet
This July
City, not the race
Remind me, 2007, I was infrront of Kimi's garage. 2008 I was in turn 1. 2010 I will be in a chicane that is close to the Budweiser beergarden
Must maintain standards. They just tweeted say there is a huge crowd streaming into the circuit. Must be Giggles
You have to go to Brazil. Brazil is awesome.
Yep, we have always got the British feed. Have had a few Aus gps with local commentating (including Murray)
Jack's obsessed with the idea of going to Cuba. I can't work out how to put him off properly....
5 live commentary box. Hope Mr C doesn't get mixer envy
Peru is first
My colleague is off to Rio next week
I am jelous though
*jealous
Why?
It's on my list, must do before Fidel pops his clogs
Not enough displays for his liking
The best (second best) seat in the house is at the junction of sections 11 and 12. you get a clear view of all the cars comming out of the final chicane (wall of champions), down the front stretch, the slight righ-hander, the 90 degreee left, the 180 right of the Senna S... and out to turn 3. 15-20 seconds of the lap....
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=montreal&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=43.983628,38.056641&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Montreal,+Communauté-Urbaine-de-Montréal,+Quebec,+Canada&ll=45.501098,-73.521645&spn=0.009881,0.016909&z=16
I'm travelled out. I've made enough travel plans to fill a lifetime....
I spent a week in Sao Paulo. Great place to visit
Sadly, BBC standards have been declining for a few years
Relatively
Unless you've seen the world, you're not finished
Its great them getting the olympics, but i am slightly worries it will astop them spending any money on the track (if they would)
Amazed that Chicago was out first
That's not a bad idea. I was there and it was easy entry and exit in 2007. I love playing blackjack at the casino and hanging out at the Budweiser Beergarden so I'll consider it. My doctor and my brother are in for 2010
The Olympics has become a city improvement plan these days
Oh yeah, there'll be sport too
Didn't Joe Saward mention that the Olympics are a huge money loser for the host city?
Maybe for the city, not for the government
You need a "high letter" (E-F-G) in 11, or a "low letter" (A--B-C) in 12. Do not confuse sub-section letters with row letters. The rows start AA to MM / RR ish. That puts you in the crux of the V that is formed by 11 and 12
They have been for decades. It is too big an event now.
Yes, Vancouver 2010 is way in the red.
Let's talk more about this as GPC approaches, then we'll meet over beers at the Irish Embassy.
This is not my philosophy. Plus he gets addicted to places. I can't really let him find somewhere else he wants to set up shop for a couple of years.....
I see your point but travelling doesn't have to mean extended stays
It's just better that way
Roger, prepare at Hurley's!
Love that place. And McGibbons
You can find me at Cresent St. on wednesday prior to the race, or at the blackjack tables at the casino
He visited India when he was 18 as part of a gap year holiday. Somehow he's managed to find himself living there.... I hope he'll move back next spring. Can't go putting ideas of new locations into his head....
Are you going to GPC 2010? If so we have a mini-meet up
You guys shoulda been in the comments in June :(
I'm not sure I can justify it but...
When tickets are out, please shout
Hurley's is the first, and to my knowledge only, Pub to have a warm tap for "Vitamin G". Bill Hurley actually brought in plumbers from Ireland to setup the taps, as he wa one of the first to start large scale importing of Irish beers.
Maybe a new location will tempt him back from India
Is Hurley's the double fronted one?
Where is McGibbons? I know a few places along St. Catherines but not many
I don't know that Cuba is a step up. I'll happily do Northern Europe. Preferably Scandinavia. I don't really object to emigrating once I've finished my degree but everywhere he likes is too hot for me.
Parallel to Crescent, same road as the Emabassy but further up. I'll check...
I'm gonna try and work out a way to get there as well. Probably won't be able to make it, but I'm gonna try!
Double fronted, as in multiple front facing terraces, with an upper balcony and a rear courtyard? The pub is on the west / nort west side of the street... Lots of little spaces.... yeah sounds like Hurley's
Ari going on the attack.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79154
Are you sure you two are compatible?
McKibbins!
1426 Bishop St.
http://www.mckibbinsirishpub.com/index.htm
Great live music, small scale but honest fun
:D Love it! :D
Okay, another place I know is the Alpine Haus. I was there in 2007 and the owner was talking to me in the bar and said some guys from the McLaren team were in the resturant and one of them is really famous. I thought for a second and said, "Fernando Alonso?". He said, "that's the guy". He seated me in the rest., I was 20 ft from Alonso. He got up, greeted a few people, came past my table, I said, "hey, you're Fernando Alonso." He agreed with me...then left
What if we like dishonest fun? :)
Mum?
Was reading that earlier, I fear he may be posturing
I hope not
Ari and us against the FIA and 5 Live. Let's escalate.
There'd be some of that available too I reckon
I thought she blmed him for your travelling. Not sure she is independent enough
Even if Ari does nothing as FIA President, it is worse than what Todt could do.
I think the FIA, the FIA Presidency and Formula 1, at least for "us" F1 fans, are too closely linked. I know the whole history ofr Bernie and Max, but it's time this "relationship" ends. The FIA needs to be at a much higher level (rules, specifications, etc.) and FOM needs to be at a much lower level (organizing individual races, etc.)
Yeah. She hates him quite a lot.... Mainly because she thinks I'll move far away and she'll never see her grandchildren.
My mum once balked at the thought of me going to Malaysia
I said if she could point it out on a map, I wouldn't go
That was a good trip too
I'm not pregnant btw, just for the record....
Got that in just in time!
You already have a panda?
Alphonso's more than enough for me to look after... I kill plants!
Are you sure? That sounded like protesting too much.
I ruddy better be. That might be the worst day of my life.
When's the fella back Alison?
Just think how happy your mother will be if you produce a grandchild or two when you are within driving distance
I concur..
Bugger, auto ping just kicked in again
He's errr not. I'm seeing him when I fly to NZ. I'm staying in India for a fortnight. He's coming to spend Christmas with me over there. I'm not sure when he's moving back to the UK tbh. We don't really talk about it if you can believe that.... Hopefully Easter.
He loves it out there. I can't ask him to come back. He needs to decide by himself or he'd never forgive me.
That's fair enough
NZ is wondrous, try to spend as much time there as you can
You're too good for him. (does your mother tell you that?)
I have never made it as far as NZ or Aus yet.
Heh I'm not. He's very nice to me.
Did you consider going with him or was it 'his personal journey'?
No sarcasm intended, is an honest Q
As a Scot you'll enjoy NZ very much I feel
Because we invented NZ?
Is there a link for FP3?
No, that was EJ
It has a nice feel to it that is similar to Ireland and Scotland in my eyes.
Smaller places, very beautiful locations with friendly people and lots of good food & drink
There will be soon, no doubt
Yeah I really really did. It's more for personal reasons that I didn't go. It's very hot which, joking aside, makes me genuinely quite sick. Also I really wanted to work out where I was going with my life and our relationship, I guess it's given me some space too.
Try this http://www.p2pstation.net/channel6.html It had FP2 yesterday
Al murray had a cood quote on it...
...It was something like: 30 hours of flights, flying half way round the world, and what do you get when you get there? Scotland!
Travel 12.000 miles to somewhere similar to home?
If you guys can carry on when the travelling settles down then you'll be there for a long while together after
Not similar, same vibe... kinda
Not as cold, mostly
I thought you were going to say they would be in it for the long haul :)
Who am I, Giggles? :)
Yeah. I hope so. I'm quite keen to live abroad. I really need to get my stupid degree finished first though. I'll get there in the end I suppose....
My alarm just went off. Shame I didn't actually get to sleep
Been there
Just sleep at work, like I do
I wish
Morning all
Hola SLVAron and Mark
Hey Aaron
Get a job as a firefighter, you can get paid to sleep. And get paid to get awakened at 3:00 AM to run around looking for a fire that someone "Smelled"
Hello, everyone!
Hey there, we are in the FP3 thread!
So, do we hang put here in the mean time
Qualy thread should be open soon
Can we head ping the auto ping?
Just listening to the end of fp2, ant said going over crests doesnt have any effect.
At the talk yesterday the guy said when he was at renault, and they went back to spa after they modernised it they had issues with fluids lifting over the top of eau rouge due to it being faster than it had been
Maybe they pressurise the sumps now
I would have thought they did that before... apparently not..
Until you have a problem, no need
Breaking News! RT @LeeMcK: Webber out of qualifying after off in fp3. Chassis wrecked and no time to repair it
That should help Brawn seal the constructors.
Meanwhile, on the USF1 front from Mr. Noble:
Ferguson was formerly the main man at Cosworth when they were last in F1.
Also from Mr Noble:
It is good to hearsome news from them. I really belive they will be there despite twiddledee and twiddledum's forecasts of doom
Helllllloooooo :)
you're probably the only one staying up :D
Yo.
I find myself at 8am withh nothing to do.
Grrrrr every flipping race something stupid happens Grrrrrrrr
i'm staying up.. am debating whether going to go to Brands today or not... the weather isn't looking too good...
think of ye photography career!
I'm going to stay up!
I aint going back to bed, if Im getting up at 5:45, I'm staying up.
Absoltely
yes.. but my cold + the piles of homework are making me reconsider... will see what mum thinks when she gets up. although i think we'll probably go..
A few races on F1CE might keep me up.
okay.am going to read through Quali comments i missed...
Could get some nice shots in more cloudy weather?
Sadly I've got cleaning to do but if I get on with it I'll be able to go shopping later. When is too early to do the hoovering in a block of flats?
don't forget the Sidepodcat :)
tis true.
You are going to have to talk to that cat about it sitting too close to the television. It can't be good for its eyes ;)
Interesting tweet from JA:
Anytime before 11:45 on a saturday!!! ;)
Night all!
if we go by train i'll be able to hop on at the station ;) but someone picking me up is good too...
will do it now...
nothing is confirmed though, dad has said 'we'll see, so that could mean yes or no'
What kinda car is it? P
that is such a cute cat btw! my cat woke me up today at 5 so i didn't miss the coverage :)
You need to get the cat to work out fixing your internet too :)
Good morning
So, just how crazy was qualifying? I saw the result, and what happened.
#sorryRG
i'm thinking it may or may not have been her that gave me some of the problems as i found the router on the floor when i came downstairs... then i had problems connecting my laptop to the wifi. however all is sorted now and the cat is sleeping :)
I am cleaning my oven. The things I do when qualy is over too early.
am watching quali coverage again cause i'm bored, am happy that Felipe will be in the paddock in Brazil :)
Morning :)
I just finished watching the bit of preshow quali I missed.
Now it's breakfast time
When I say I saw what happened, I mean I read the result on Autosport :P
whats for breakfast?
morning :)
These things happen sadly. Now I'm keeping a third eye on the latest.
Gravadlax on a bagel - yum
that required some googling. Sounds tasty! I had toast.
I wonder if you would like the gravadlax sauce. It does have a small amount of mustard in it, but mainly it tastes of dill.
I'd cope, because I looooove salmon.
#hatgate
Heikki is back to wearing a hat that only has his name on it.
yay :D
I am going to take the credit for this victory by assuming they saw my complaints :D
6 drivers called to see the race stewards
:D hehe
oooh
oh... there was me hoping Jens would get away with it...
am off to find out what i can have for breakfast... hmm...
Jenson is one of them. Sounds like they called everyone out on that lap
@willbuxton Both brawns, both BMWs, Alonso and Sutil seeing stewards for speeding under yellow. Sutil also quizzed for blocking.
Funny that Alonso is one of them :D
Pot. Kettle. Black?
Noble says: Toyota says a decision in the morning on if Timo Glock is fit to race. If he cannot, the team will consider putting Kobayashi in
I guess they would know, but I did not think that was allowed?
I didn't think they could.
Home town sympathy ruling perhaps
regulations say
Changes may be made at any time before the start of the qualifying practice session provided any change proposed after 16.00 on the day of scrutineering receives the consent of the stewards.
Additional changes for reasons of force majeure will be considered separately.
so I don't think they can.
Reet, time to pop out to 'socialise' so see ya.
But this is force majeure no?
see ya
They can't. It's pretty much the exact same situation as Massa, and Massa's accident was way more of a freak accident than Glock's.
its yet another one of those easy-to-interpret-how-you-want things from the FIA. From a legal point of contract law I'd say no, but this is F1 :D
But since they didn't let Ferrari replace Massa it would seem a bit unfair if they let Toyota. (although, did Ferrari actually ask? I don't know)
Yeah no idea if Ferrari asked.
I've never felt more stupid. Just been on the way to the station to catch my train, looked at my theory test booking confirmation and realised it's next weekend, not this one. Yeah, you are an idiot, Scott...
ooops!
At least it wasn't last weekend ;-)
oops, lol at least you haven't missed it ;)
I was at a wedding once where two of the guests failed to turn up owing to a this week/next week snafu.
I've left a comment on your blog, Scott.
No. This is force majeure:
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=168344
I so almost went there!
But I didn't think anyone would get it. Didn't know you were about Stuart :)
Will says Alonso was only called because he complained about the others
I just went to check on my oven cleaning and would you find it a little odd if I said it really excites me? Thats four years of baked on grease coming off before my eyes!
ahh makes sense.
Ooh, thanks Stuart. I'll have a check :P
Only just arrived. I stuck my earplugs in last night, owing to noise from next door, and slept right through the alarm (Mrs C not back from overseas until tomorrow, so not around to jab me in the ribs). Missed the entire session and will just have to watch the re-run, although I've got to shoehorn a trip to the supermarket and a top-to-toe house clean in today as well...
I have to get my haircut and go to the supermarket. What exciting lives we lead :)
Excellent insight there, thanks :)
And you've got a Sainsbury's now! When I lived round your way I used to end up going to the Waitrose at Beckenham because the Elmers End Tesco was always unspeakable on a Saturday morning.
Right, must toddle...
It's all very exciting. There were rumours of a Marks and Spencers at one point all around the time McDonalds closed down. But all that's gone now! ;)
am watching the press conference. i know exactly what you guys meant when you said james didn't sound well.
wow it's gone really quiet... everyone must be sleeping..
Not me! I'm watching Friends.
ahhh :) the perfect thing to do on a saturday morning
Absolutely Episode 4 series 2.
oooo... i've just noticed that BMW have an ipod/iphone racing app...looks like you can race and do pitstops :) cool...
Will says: My mistake RE Alonso. @NobleF1 just confirmed it WAS for speeding through yellows and also for passing Buemi. Apologies.
What's this now?
There has been some investigation into recording lap times under the yellow flags.
Sounds like Alonso and Heidfeld are claiming they slowed down. Heidfeld waved to acknowledge the yellow flags apparently.
Was a decision made? and what's passing Buemi got to do with anything?
You aren't supposed to overtake under the yellow flags.
I don't think a decision has been made.
In fact we know everyone is waiting, in the dark, for a decision to be made: http://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/4575695027
I'm soooo downloading this :)
Who knows which drivers set fastest times while the yellow flags were shown. It seems that both Brawn and BMW drivers plus Alonso have been summoned. Fernando and Nick claimed they did slow down and Nick acknowledged the flags.
If it affects a lot of drivers what decision(s) could be made?
hehe it's very good. there are pitstop, race engineer bits and donut bits... however i think you need to pay for extra expansion packs to do some of the other things which is like £0.59 but so far so good
http://fofachairmandiaries.blogspot.com/2009/10/pandemonium-in-japan_03.html
I hope at least two or three cars will be able to finish the race tomorrow.
i thought it was really really quiet, turns out my doohickey was just broken :(
oh no!
"Oct.3 (GMM) The hottest rumour at the Suzuka circuit on Saturday is that McLaren is contemplating splitting completely with Mercedes at the end of the season.
Germany's Auto Motor und Sport reports that the Woking based team's plan, masterminded by chairman and former team boss Ron Dennis, is to buy BMW's formula one engine division from the withdrawing German carmaker in order to go it alone as an independent chassis and engine constructor."
This is probably just a rumour since Martin Whitmarsh has said "We have no plans to buy BMW's engines." - of course the McLaren F1 road car had a BMW engine and still holds the record for the fastest ever production car (with a non turbo/supercharged engine).
I accidentally closed it and when I reopened it was like 'bam! 25 new comments!'
Pfft, it's GMM.
ahhaha :)
Like what I said rumour, but McLaren originally said their relationship with Mercedes was as completely normal, then they launched a car without a Mercedes engine and Mercedes invests significantly into one of McLaren's competitors. I hope someone does picks up the BMW engine - otherwise there is a risk of too few engine manufacturers being involved.
Both BMW drivers wishing Timo to be OK. Seems it was only a shallow cut to the back of the leg. I know Jenson also said he hoped everyone was OK.
Tim apologised to the guys for giving them so much work to do now!
My iPhone's just stopped working. Just gone dead and won't come back on.
have you tried plugging it into your laptop? or doing a restart? failing that... i know the perfect person to help...
ALEXXX!!!!!!!!
My USB cable for it is a bit knackered at both ends but it still works. Nothing from that. And I can't restart it. Also, the liquid indicator is still white so it's not liquid damaged.
Oh wait, it's just started working again! Weird.
Panic over, carry on :P
oh dear....
yay :)
That's the second time that's happened now. Did so a little while back.
my ipod has been freezing a little recently. not sure why, maybe cause it's pretty full now.. anyways i don't mind it sorts itself out :)
James Allen says Brawn were just slow in quali.. great...
ooh if he has weights that means they will be up soon :D
he said they are 17 laps in.. which is what brawn said so i suppose he hasn't?
oh booo
ooooo the sun has come out! and my camera battery is charging :D
hooray! I need weights so I can scrub my oven, it's been 4 hours since I applied the oven cleaner, and the can says '4-12' :D
Difficult to know Rubens was a bit slower 0.3 sec, but both are fuelled heavily in anticipation of a grid drop.
hehe i would like to know what's going to happen re penaltys and things before we go, otherwise i'll be checking twitter every few seconds.
FIA decision 5 place grid drop for Alonso, Barr, Button, Sutil, Reprimand and 5 place drop for Buemi
FIA decision 5 place grid drop for Alonso, Barr, Button, Sutil, Reprimand and 5 place drop for Buemi from James
James Allen
wooo penalties for everyone!
ooh... well it's better than a 10 place grid drop i suppose.. doesn't help Jenson's Championship though....
Sure - but it keeps the championship more open if DeSeb wins and the Brawns do not score.
weights are out too http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Documents/jpn09_weights.pdf
but i don't want the championship to be open :( i would like Jenson to win it sometime soon... lol
wohoo! and i'm off to brands in 1/2 hour! :D
Seems that way
Think about the two circuits left, if the championship is won today they will have fewer spectators and then less chance of hosting in the future. It is the bigger picture I am looking at. Sure I want Brawn to win the championship and either Jenson or Rubens to win the championship. Possibly I would prefer Rubens to win as his Brawn seat is being debated more. Remember the World Champion gets number one on his car.
Rubens has to win in Brazil because he might explode with squee.
Squee. Is that in the dictrionary?
Urbandictionary say "A noise primarily made by an over-excited fangirl, however it has spread rapidly and is now widely spread among the web community."
Really, what for?
exactly why Jenson has to win the championship before brazil :P so Rubens can get the consolation prize of winning in his home country :P
I am obviously not up with the web lingo.
to take some photos of the various feature events and things.. i think its the BTCC or something... photo therapy is needed after this week :)
but Rubens will lose his seat at Brawn!
Cool. I'm contemplating ordering tickets for Modified Live at Snetterton next weekend.
He's strongly linked with Williams anyway.
Realistically would you want to swap your Brawn seat for a Williams seat?
i love Rubens i really do, and i love him being in the team, but i also want Jenson to win the championship. tbh if the rumours are true about Mercedes wanting rosberg in the team, and the team wanting the championship winner to stay on too... i don't want to see Jenson in another team either.
No I agree the Brawn's the better car, but with Nico pretty much confirmed for that seat, I'm not sure he has a choice.
So if you had to choose if that was the case, would you follow Jenson or Brawn?
oh lordy...
Did Eddie invent a new type of grid?
Jenson definately... but i'd still love Brawn. However that wont happen. Jenson's been with the team for years and years, last year he said in Monaco that his dream for the team was to help recover from this 'slump' (aka ra107 + ra108) and help them become a championship winning team. I can't think that he'd leave if he had a choice.
I think Brawn could come unstuck next year without Rubens - I am so dissapointed with them on this issue. It is just politics and nationalism and I hate it. Should be about how deserves the seat, who contributes to the team etc. If they dump either driver I will not support them.
Why does McLaren have such horrible looking clothing?
Hello again, back from socialising. Any latest about Timo?
No, but 5 drivers got a penalty
Just seen the new grid on AUTOSPORT, a lot of asterix's there.
They are waiting on results/interpretations of Xrays - it looks hopeful that he will compete tomorrow. Poor guy, first being dropped, then the flu, now the accident!
hopeful as in he will, or hopeful to think he will race?
i don't think they should get rid of either driver, however if getting rid of rubens next year and having nico means they get engines and financial backing for another year you 'gotta do what you gotta do' :(
He needs to be cleared as being healthy for the race - so it is uncertain. If he cannot race then Toyota only have one car in their home event.
Sorry I missed this headping... my headpingger was going wild but I was unavoidably not near a computer!
so looking at the revised grid.. Jenson and Rubens are on the clean side and only technically took a 4 place grid drop because of Glock?
penalty for heikki too for gearbox change ahhhh is anyone in their original grid slots?
as i just said to @5livef1 they may as well have picked the grid order out of a hat.. :D
Hey everyone! :) I missed qualifying becuase I was sleeping and I've had it playing on iPlayer and had to rewatch bits because I'm doing research (which is turning up nothing) at the same time. This quali has to have had the most red flags for a long time?
Most penalties as well.
Absolutely ginormous crossover appeal of crafts, crochet, geekery, guitar hero and muse come together here:
http://geekcentralstation.blogspot.com/2009/02/scarf-hero.html
A guitar hero scarf of the Knights of Cydonia! Awesome
Lukeh! This is the scarf for you!
How many are we at then?
oh my god I want to knit a guitar hero scarf
So many that the FIA are saying they aren't going to publish the grid until tomorrow morning (waiting for Glock).
I think Lukeh will want one doing :)
Stick with me Amy and I'll deal with all your clothing needs.
Andronov Apparel: Hats and Scarfs that let the world know you're "on the internet"
;)
Red Bull Racing saying there's a chance that there are some other drivers still under investigation!!!
http://www.redbullracing.com/Season/2009/Japan/News/Penalties-Galore/
Or should it be Giggles Garments?
omg! but i'm going out soon...at this rate i'll come home to find button got pole!:P
The back end of the season has been crazy, I hate to think what will happen in Brazil if it rains.
i suppose one good thing about mr and mrs c sleeping and then doing f1minute and stuff is that mrs c wont have to release several shows..
hehe.
afternoon all!
I had just thought about that. Was actually thinking it's a bad thing, because now I have to fit ALL this in. At least the other way I could get away with 120 seconds instead. :)
just read out who isn't penalised, its a much shorter list :D
I have conquered my oven. Who'd have thunk those trays and racks were silver? Now my hands hurt because I didn't have any gloves to follow the 'wear gloves' instruction.
It is a bit of a dodgy punishment I was just thinking. The drivers are essentially being encouraged to do what they did and take the penalty aren't they? Rubens for example would have been further back if he had lifted off.
Congratulations!
i think i may have exhausted my weekends supply of exclamation marks, during qually.
you raise a good point.
heh. Afternoon Mr and Mrs C :)
i'm not convinced it is afternoon...
Ted says We make it 11th KOV 12th BUT 13th FIS 14th NAK 15th BUE 16th GRO etc. WEB and maybe GLO from pit lane
To Five Live... Two different bits of the BBC don't even seem to agree :)
I think it all depends on the order the penalties are applied in or something?
5live doesn't agree that is even ted :)
I thought they did now?
Lee says, "So far Brawn, Force India and Williams have all given us different grids!"
ahh, they changed their minds? i missed that demo.
:P:P
*memo.
It was really cool. Five Live handed Ted a piece of paper and he read that it had a sail boat on it ;)
Formula 1 : If you want to know what is going on, you've come to the wrong place.
huh? on twitter, or on the air?
:)
♥
Sorry I was making a joke about your typo of demo. Which made me think of that Microsoft demo of the boy etc.
wow i hadn't thought of that. :)
On the proof that he's the real one front. They suspected Ted wasn't because he was talking about changing the results of last year after the season had ended, which turned out to be something that Ferrari were exploring.
I became much more convinced he was real when he seemed to have information from the renault trial before anyone else.
And Five Live still follow him so I guess he's okay?
mrs. c. alex is being mean to me.
#sorrymrc
well, last week he tweeted some things before he said them on air. so that would be weird if it wasn't him. and most importantly, his sister is following him.
I knew you'd know. I think with your affinity you'd get a good sense if something was wrong...
#sorrymrc
okay so i'm off to brands now. i wonder what the grid will look like when i get back :D see ya! x
my brother is going to go home tomorrow afternoon from where he is house sitting at the moment to watch the race. #conversiontoF1fansuccess
I feel I'm cruising for being told off by Christine's mother in law!
he's not following us though. which i take as a personal snub.
:)
I can't tell him off because I didn't understand it.
On the grid front:
http://twitter.com/ManipeF1/status/4577352307
http://twitter.com/ManipeF1/status/4577379683
phew!
I mean, does he not know about the affinity? At least you have your BFF.
Also this ;) http://www.manipef1.com/results/2009/japan/grid/
Maybe mr c could ask his BFF to tell ted about the affinity thing?
i can't believe he's forgotten me a;ready. we talked for, like, a whole minute.
Mr C has finally got his girlfriend on Big Pic: http://www.f1minute.com/2009/10/03/explain-that-one/
that hair in her eye will bug me if I look at that again. When I see people walking around like that I get confused as to how its not annoying them.
wow. i am taking it from all angles today.
he he
#sorrymrc
I am just catching up with the comments from FP3. I am slightly concerned about the ability to talk genetics at 3 o'clock in the morning.
I went to go and get my haircut. But the problem was that they need me to wait a while. What should I do? Hmmmm... This place called a "public house" looks interesting I wonder what they sell?
Sounds like some investigation is needed.
good thinking!
Presumably the news that USF1 have brought a former Cosworth guy on board is good for the rumours that they aren't going to happen.
Is he from when they were actually good?
they seem to sell a product known as "beer". I think I might have to try some to appease them. Otherwise I don't think they'll let me stay.
Do they not sell anything with elderflower in it? That's the normal tipple of choice in such establishments, I believe.
ooh, v.interesting.
well... yes. sort of.
it's from a time when they at least had staff.
There's a band called OMD?
OMD!
OMG at OMD!
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-282
it would appear that it is an Amber liquid. I may have to drink it.
Oooh, it looks kinda bubbly!
I better investigate!
:)
orchestral movements in the dark? No?
Apparently so.
there are some bubbles in it. But I wouldn't describe it as fizzy. It's a strange beverage. Maybe I'll have to try another.
How totally random! Genuinely! Totally bonkers!
The spinto band song from sidepodradio was just on in the pub!!!
*manoeuvres
**dances on the sand
in the sun ;)
I don't do names. This is what Katherine says when we are out with friends. I say the wrong version and that lets her remember what the right answer is. It's a key feature of our relationship!
how many uk people can actually know about them? 200?
Even I know it is dances on the sand and I know nothing.
but I don't do names.
That's not names, that's words!
I know they have a kazoo
that's true. I don't know why it is. But lyrics sit in the same bit of my brain. I can remember a lot of things from audio conversations that I've ever had. But lyrics somehow are the same.
they have a lot of them :)
am trying to teach christine how one dances to the specials.
I think we need some video :)
You said it was like Madness, so I did the Madness dance and you said that was wrong. :(
ok.
enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxHcx7FO8nI
is this what you do to avoid packing?
Busted.
what the heck kind of time signature is golden brown in?
Whatever you do, don't tell them that for a minute I thought he said Gordon Brown.
6/8 I think
6/8 with a 7/8 bit on the end. it's far to late in life to be discovering revelations such as this.
that song has always made me uncomfortable and I never knew why. Maybe its the time signature.
they squeezed an extra note in the keyboardy bit.
they are similar but the dance is different.
Wikipedia says "The phrase should not be confused with 'Gordon Brown' who is in fact the Prime Minister of the UK."
so it must be a common mistake ;)
Just went to check Wikipedia - first sentence: "Golden Brown" is a song by the English rock band The Stranglers. It was released as a 7" single in December 1981, on Liberty. The phrase should not be confused with 'Gordon Brown' who is in fact the Prime Minister of the UK.
I'm glad you've solved this mystery in my life. Sidepodcast. Educational.
Apparently it's 3 bars of 3/4 followed by one of 4/4, technically 13/4. not sure whether I believe them ;)
really? actually could well be.
I think you don't get enough saxophone in songs these days.
what I meant was a video of Christine doing the dance...
...I have done a video of what I'm doing: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/img-3254
I actually was on Baker Street the other day!
Eurgh I'm suffering :(
and this is why you are better than me, I have been trying to think of a good saxophone song for a few minutes now then BAM you come up with the best.
from what?
Too sleepy! I don't know why I watched the F1 in the middle of the night when I knew I had work today.....
checked out Alex's video. Why is someone offering to teach me new languages on the drop? Is this a drive to get all SPC commenter multilingual?
I remembered the name! I don't know how!
#definatelynotbetterthanyou
a close thing with born to run though.
Ooooh I'd go for that!!
Especially since I clearly don't know English
another great point!
all I could think of was Kenny G
#reallynotcool
It's better than Spandau Ballet which was what I've been thinking
ahh, well he had a veritable collection of the things.
I'm back at the barbers now!
I must say, I am loving my flatmate being in the USA. I can get toast at all hours without the fear of waking someone and making them angry.
I've decided I hate flatmates generally. I've managed to find a tiny flat that I can have to myself. It's amazing. I might die if I have to go back to sharing next year.
living by myself is kind of my dream but I can't afford it :( I have got a good set up here by living with two people who I very rarely see or hear but the whole 'one sleeps by the kitchen' thing does interfere with my desire to eat at 3am :D
I very much enjoyed living with my housemates over the years because they were a very long standing friend and my brother where we had a good understanding. Then I lived by myself and it totally changed everything. Could never go back until I moved in with Katherine.
I've had 11 different flatmates in 3 different flats and only 2 of them would I consider living with again :D
I've been left by my own in the barbers. But unlike Christine they hadn't started. Pic on drop
have they gone to have cake?
I had 2 flatmates over a period of 9 years. So was very lucky. Only one at a time which is easier.
No they are just running late.
Sweet Lord, what happened to the quali results....
aw. cake is more fun. I want McLaren to hurry up so I can have cake.
I am relieved that my Seb hasn't been penalised for anything (yet....)
I had two in Germany and then 15 within 3 years in Finland (4x Finns, 2xThai, 2x Canadian, Hungarian, German, US, Portuguese, Japanese, Brazilian and South African). I liked my Thai flatmates best.
which of http://www.cheesecake.com.au/ListProductsForState.aspx?GP=7&ST=VIC those cakes say 'Kimi to McLaren' to you :D
White Gold Mudcake, clearly - The white snow of his homeland and the good English mud ;)
Ohhhhhhh
With pictures of beautiful cakes in my mind am off to the shops to buy a new shower curtain. I lead such a glamourous life :lol:
I'm liking the cherry mudcake....
there is a lot more options in the full size cake list but I don't think I can justify a BIG one :D The only one I've had is the caramel mudcake and it was awesome but white chocolate, ooooh. My 21st cake was a raspberry and white chocolate gateaux and I still dream about it.
ooh my confectionary hunt tells me my local chocolate store is doing panda chocolate
I have just learnt there is a song called 2-4-6-8 Motorway. I am disappointed to learn it doesn't feature a contraflow.
Afternoon all,
Just watched qualifying. How the heck am I supposed to do my post-qualifying analysis with all the grid penalties?
heheh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMy2bmSAIeA
Afternoon peeps
BBC haven't done a post qually F1 Mole page yet...
I don't understand why Alonso was penalised?
Just what was going on with Degna today then?
I gave up around 7 after yet another red flag in Q2
it ATE a Finn!
:D
Right one or wrong one?
both would be bad news :( but it ate Heikki!
Surely, when it comes to them being eaten it's ALWAYS the wrong one?
You don't love Kimi at Ferrari..... Please say it isn't so.
BBC iPlatyer it is then
Hmm what did you guys think about the penalties? Good timing for Vettel aren't they?
hey ya. we're just discussing the fact that angelina wasn't always famous and once featured in a meatloaf video.
At least he wasn't wholly eaten. That time he went right into the wall was terrifying.
Ms Jolie?
Awesomeness!
I can't believe there was a time she wasn't famous.
Once those flags all came out, he was where the smart money was..... He's proven before he can get one shot at a quali lap and absolutely nail it.
there's more than one?
Angelina Ballerina? :D
Hello. Just saw the penalties. How ironic for Alonso - he was right about the cars in front not slowing for the yellow. Unfortunately, he didn't slow down either, and ended up losing rather than gaining places.
He thinks he did slow down though. I'd be interested to see the lap times....
oh noo, it is not so at all. But I still don't like to see him crash!
I find it odd that they can't issue the grid right away - couldn't they just have watched a replay to see who didn't slow for the yellows first? Would've taken them no more than 20 minutes, max, to sort it out.
Guessing game from the qualifying replay
Pic: A mangled car sticking out of a tyre wall, beached, wheels hanging off
Audio: Ooh, that doesn't look too good
Who said that? :)
I'm gonna go for the unexpected and say Brundle.
we could play this game the other way though and say guess who said the cars were coming up to Pohon :D
Oo, oo, I know that, Croft.
Why are they asking drivers to stay in their car after they stack it, is it peculiar to Japan or to be the norm from now on?
Pouhon rather
I only went and did some too much sleeping :(
Na uh, try again
He has a few CD's, the best seller is "Questions Only" ;)
But Legard's the obvious answer! I thought you wanted us to guess because it's different. :D
you should have watched the 5Live broadcast, they gave us handy tips for our trip to Spa.
I'm having a 'bad vibes on Legard' day
I really want him out
I couldn't get Ant & Crofttie during qualy today and he got my hackles up
How's Glock?
and lost the ability to type.
What an FIA mess. They should have a system to add time onto the end of sessions if people havent had time to make more than 1 timed run.
Wasn't available on Freeview for me this morning, was watching in bed :(
Such as?
Deciding if to race him in the morning. Its a bit unsure atm.
The drivers have no one to blame but themselves though, there was 7 minutes remaining in the session and Brawn sat in the garage for 5 of those
I'd have thought there's a risk of fire. I know it's different but in a road car, it's best to get well out and away from your car after it's crashed. I can't really see why this would be different.
What was the leg wound?
Japan is not Belgium, they are in fact different countries quite far apart. Lou said this was important for me so I didn't end up in the wrong place.
Nah, I think the system should stay as is. I mean, if you didn't set a lap when the red flag came out, tough. I would agree though to a green-white-checkered setup if the red flag came out with too little time left to go round and start a final flying lap (which happened in Singapore).
I don't believe they have said, though I might hae missed it.
Very important that one
It was a roll of the dice for the team. JA does suspect they fuelled up heavily in Q3 to cover that possibility. No weights til tomorrow then?
weights are http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Documents/jpn09_weights.pdf
Thats still only enough time for 1 run though.
any yellow flags during that period would destroy someone's quali so it didnt matter when anyone went out, they wouldnt have time to do it again
It was conceivable that the majority of the grid couldn't get a time in in Q2 though. If those crashes had been a smidge closer together, there'd have been no laps recorded after the initial couple of minutes. How do they respond in scenarios like that....
:D cheers
Wow, Vettel's pole was legit, as was Trulli's P2? Wow.
That said, they all seemed to be on the same fuel (except Sutil). Bad news for Brawn, then.
Red Bull were always gonna be good here
Everyone comes out all at the same time. I remember that happening the first time they did knockout quali in Bahrain 2006 - and that was in Q1, I think. Made for great entertainment.
I expected Vettle to be quite a bit heavier than that, Red Bull running very conservatively.
Christine,
I'm chatting to Chris Humphreys on FB and he's said to me he's banned on here. He really wants to chat to you about it?
Yes, but not THIS good, I thought, considering McLaren's string of form. Brawn were slow in Q3 for what fuel they had.
Blimey Jenson's light.... Same as Vettel.
He's had his chance, best let it lie
Jenson's on a regular load, as is Vettel. Hamilton, Trulli, Sutil all lighter than them.
McLarenaren't great at high speed at the mo
I'm kind of shocked he hasn't given up yet.
I dunno what went down. I probably wasn't around in the comments at the time tbh.
It's a bit of an obsession
We should move on
we don't care. no-one tells us to f-off in the comments and then get to comment again.
They do well in low-downforce and high-downforce, but not medium-downforce? Odd.
Under the circumstances, I'm surprised Vettel didn't top it up a bit more. They saw how many people were flying off all over, it was a bit of a roulette wheel if you got a good lap in or not. He was risking being stuck down the field with lightish fuel.... He had a lot of spare pace in his lap and could still have got the front row with more fuel on board.
he has the intelligence of a 5 year old.
It should be an interesting start, KERS 3rd 4th and 5th swamping the front 2
Plenty more important SPC things happening. Like Spa. SPA. I'm still so excited.
Ah I see. Fair do's.
recommend you don't mention it again.
...and pick better friends.
Red Bull can't afford to be conservative
Aggressive banzai or bust
Maybe he has questions which need answers?
Possibility of a shunt? It's happened before.
Also, I wonder if anyone else will go off at Degner 1 tomorrow, and how many SCs we'll get...
I think he's kinda screwed himself for the race though?
Tough
Back to F1
hehe. did you see bootnecks comments yesterday.
To be honest, I only knew of his name, I don't know what happened, OK? So I was obvlivious to anything he said.
Why, if he gets a flyer of a start and pulls out a good lead...
They seem to have played it conservative with the fuel, but it still worked for them.
That said, their tendency is to have excellent Saturdays... and poor Sundays. Vettel won't have a rear-gunner either, so that counts against him. If Vettel finishes off the podium, his title hopes are gone, no matter where Button is.
[questionmark]
(sorry christine recording digest, banished without a key)
But agreed, back to F1 talk.
Seems to be inevitable
It was a joke!
Hmmmm perhaps. I think he'd be better off a bit heavier even if he missed the pole. I think he'd still have got it probably if he was a bit heavier, then he'd be in an even stronger position.
it went right over my head too.
classic though :)
I did indeed. More people! I also saw Alison might be keeping me company in Melbourne (woooo!)
I'm so excited I'm even looking forward to giving Bassano money. I think that means I'm ill
Have you not remapped that yet? :)
They havent though, they have just gone for an 'average strategy'
i really should.
One word: KERS. TBH, he was probably better off having more fuel and starting behind Lewis. If Lewis beats him at the start, Vettel might find it tough to beat him (although Lewis is lighter than him).
I can't decideeeee! I'll probably wait and see how I feel nearer the time. Does it normally sell out?
Sorry
Him and Legard don't compare for
Anyway, so what was the deal with all the Degna catastrophes?
Anyone know what year this Ferrari F1 car came from?
I should DM Jackie and tell her what's happening
Looks like '03/'04 to me.
nope
It's a promo car, the livery and bodywork probably shouldn't even be together
That's what I was thinking. Wow, they really go back to the OLD cars for display pieces.
it's not. it's 2009 livery, but what year did the chassis come from?
In fact does any GP sellout these days? Silverstone got very close but other than that....
I think it was just the nature of the corner, and a lack of runing.
I was saying to steven last night i often went of there on the PS as it is quite different (shorter corners) to the longer curves which come before it, a lot of the people who went off there havent raced suzula before and have had very little change to practice at full speed before they had to push to the limit.
The FIA might have thought about extending FP3 to allow them to get a better idea of the track.
I don't know why but the front wing made me think of that.
Is that Changi?
I got a big glossy pack from them on Friday encouraging me to buy tickets next year. I wonder how many of these they send to people who purchased months ago.
Singapore did last year I think, but it doesn't seem to happen, you're right. Certain stands at Melbourne sell out, the 4 corners packages always do, but GA is always available, the queues at the ticket windows even on race day are quite long.
Didn't realise it got that bad - he's tried to friend me too BTW...
It's the mall connecting to Pan Pacific Hotel and Suntec Convention Centre. The mall is inside the actual circuit. It's the route to our entry gate last year. You can see the Conrad Hotel in the upper window in the background.
me neither, thats more than a bit much. best to leave it and hope he can move on
AD is almost sold out, its very difficult if not impossible to get 2 seats together now
It should go on the unmentionables and that ends that.
I don't understand. The calendar was only released a week ago.
if only we had a wiki-genius in our midst...
I know, tis a shame...
Has anyone who has had a Saturday done anything useful witrh it? :D
Yeah sorry if I had read two comments further I would not have commented.
Abu Dhabi is at the end of this month
I managed to fit the days action into 60 seconds?
http://www.f1minute.com/2009/10/03/03-oct-09-vettel-takes-pole-position-in-japan/
All 'cept for Heikki's crash. #sorryamy
Yeah - I bought an office chair and a pair of trousers, some DIY stuff, built the chair and then watched qually...
Oh I see. I'm going mad :P
I cleaned my oven!
My sleep was quite nice, that comes in handy
Afternoon all. Cleaning is done.
Looks like I've missed some fun...
In other news, Jasmine has deposited herself on the sofa and curled up for a nap, which has nixed the plan for Lego Star Wars...
if we don't mention it, it didn't happen? His "I'm sorry" on the radio made me :( :(
Sexy ;)
I guess it's the first time there, people see that as something special, make more of an effort to go. Same with Singapore last year.
I was supposed to go suit hunting today
After work next week it is then
I have learnt all sorts today!
The Madness dance is different to the SImple Minds dance. Angelina Jolie wasn't always famous. There's a song about a motorway!
Do you runaround with a coat hanger to do that!? ::P
Simple Minds dance?
I'd best leave it there, Mr C will be getting all excited if I continue ;)
who dances to simple minds??
Do we have a final starting grid yet? :)
Oh. I didn't learn that much then.
Corby Trouser Press
It's very tiring
It's just hand waving and air punches isn't it?
Wait. Simple Minds was one of the many bands we listened to today who thought they were U2, right?
It was the one Mr C was singing along to
along with the waterboys. yes.
That's too much for Christine to remember in one day
I know we also listened to Stuart's favourite song by T'Pau.
Will be released tomorrow morning.
And I wanna make sure I'm up when it is. Night, everyone! :D
China In Your Hand?
Night Journeyer
I just found that big in Japan song... love it!
Who was it?
Did Mr C tell you they are named after a character in Star Trek?
Original Series ST, way before Next Gen
I dont think i quite have it yet, closest is Tokoia radio edit
OMG!
Carol Decker is 52!
Of who?
I'll shazam it soon for you when the replay is over
Been there, done that :P
I think you should have a crack at the end-of-the-pier dance the fellow from Tears For Fears does in the video for Mad World...
While we're at Japan-related stuff...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbrw9Y6_ng
Do you have it on the pc, because i have it in japanese on my phone and no means to translate, wont even let me copy/paste
We missed the chance to see her supporting the Human League at some open air do near Guildford a couple of months ago - on our hols, y'see.
No, iPhone
From iplayer, what time stamp?
Grrrr... speed tv on my cable provider has no audio. Looks like it hasn't had audio for a few days. Quali recording is pretty useless now!
Hehe you could persuade someone to watch it in sync with you and live comment what's going on :P
iPlayer needs a fast forward button. Moving the slider is so not very accurate
Doesn't like it
Can't blame it, sounds like Euro House
i used this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8288218.stm
Nick, is this the one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz8YnhlZeMU
Before I sleep. :D
That's the wrong one, that's Sushi talk
Found it on the Qualy feed but doesnn't recognise it
What you need is a Steve Matchett impersonator to provide live voiceover.
blimey. i'd forgotten about that. frequently imitated, never bettered.
hahaha, that'd be funny :)
At worst, during the actual race I'll load up a stream on the computer and watch the video on the TV
Nope
afraid not! :( sorry dude...
Were looking for a realy slow version in japanese, i have been though every version on spotify. will have a look on youtube ;)
It's tough to find it with so many covers. Have you dropped a note with the BBC?
I'd need Hobbs as well. Well, really, I'd just need someone that sounds like him and occassionally says "wow, that takes some really large attachments!"
It wsn't slow
Afternoon all!
Yeah. Wasn't it fast?
Hi Chris
Anyhoo, hope you find it. I'm interested to know what it is. Night!
Second comment down on this one is hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJrU9RIurFE
it was! most of them are superfasttecno!
an acoustic version?
Goodnight. Don't push too far!
night!
The song from the Sushi talk is not "Big in Japan"
*facepalm at Legard:
"Just a p.s. - Postscript - on Buemi..."
Arrrrggggghhhhhh!
aha, was it the timo bit then?
Thats when i decided no syned radio 5 audio was better than syned bbc 1 coms!
YES!
out of sync
Ah, that's tokia.
(obviously :P)
It's awful, that's what it is
I confess that jarred with me when I was watching earlier - I just told myself I was being mean.
i think, if it was his first, second, third or fourth race maybe.
but during his 15th?
Legard is hopeless, he doesn't deserve to be with a National Broadcasting outfit as great as the Beeb
Emma Kimiläinen finished second in some race. Her last name means Kimi-ish (is easily amused)
I reckon someone's told them to watch their jargon and now they feel they have to explain every abbreviation, even ones that are just normal English rather than racing related.....
Q3 wasn't really worth waiting for
Now for some F1 news on the aftermath
Someone should exploin Foxtrot Oscar to him
Formula Palmer Audi
Afternoon all
*explain
Anger affects my spelling :)
I want to marry her brother so I can be Kimi-ish too.
Hi Jon
Poor Alonso, reading his document it seems he slowed down after he went past all the debris. Not only did he get a grid drop but he backed off his lap and missed his chance to get a drop from higher up on the grid....
You have to say the way it worked out, Jenson and Rubens were probably better off blasting it right through, getting to Q3 then taking the drop. If there hadn't been the Q3 dramatics, it could have worked even better.
Japan Qualifying Analysis - sorry guys, tried to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear :(
i prefer exploin to be honest
doh!
:D
I've just spent an hour in a soundproof glass walled room recording my podcast, it even has a big tv on the wall which i plugged into my laptop so i could read bigger font. It's so awesome. However needs alot of editing so it wont be out today, plus the internet in my halls hasnt worked all day either and as the library closes in an hour i wont be able to upload it unless my internet comes back! anywho, i'll take a picture next time, it's aweosme!
Silly boy :(
Jon: Have they tried switching it off and on again? :)
I wish it were that simple. On a normal day, if i boot the computer up with the ethernet cable in it, then it wont work, but if i boot it up without it, then once everythings loaded up it will work (generally) but today it dosent work whatever i do, however generally when i go somewhere else to get internet it will be perfect again at home. Such is life
Uni internet is normally so temperamental. Ours settled down after a couple of weeks. There was nearly revolution when it died for 48 hours though.....
Dear drop.io,
Please could you sort your servers out so that your site doesn't load as slow as Badoer on a bad day
Thank you
you should hear the abuse they're getting here today.
no idea what they've done. but it's been rubbish for a week.
Trying to drop a pic of Alonso's new hat, I like it
Has Christine found out that Monica from Friends was in a Bruce Springsteen video?
sometimes I feel guilty for the sheer amount of rubbish I have uploaded to that thing.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/alonso-hat-jpg
Is it bad that this excites me greatly
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/m
That's what it's there for
I know that one!!
But I can totally believe that Monica wasn't always famous. Angelina not so much.
Oh yeah, she got up on stage
Cool, thanks
you feel guilty? look at what alex uploads ;)
pictures of what I buy for lunch make all of your worlds a better place, I am sure :D
Mr C: whadya think?
Why not?
i think it would go nicely with a renault jacket.
I remember when Angelina went out with Billy Bob Thornton... She was really weird back then...
Reminds me of the old BBC 2 logo :)
sometimes I forget we all watched you put up blinds and enjoyed it :D
Wow is that really Renault's new cap? I like it!
She still is, she hides it better now
RF1
Exactly. I enjoyed it so much, I joined in :)
Billy Bob is friends with Bruce.
you watched yourself putting blinds up?
impressive
I just lost an hour :(
When you say 'went out with', you mean 'was married to', right?
Huh?
Did you not see Alex's Qik episode?
That's careless! Where did you put it? ;)
it was 1.59am and then it was 3.00am :( curse you daylight savings! I want my hour back and I don't want to wait until April! I do like that I won't have to walk home in the dark next week though.
There was a lot of creepy blood sharing stuff I remember particularly :S
Actually, I did. The replay, at least
Good point!
It's only temporary light though.... Doesn't seem worth missing out on a whole hour :(
That was the bit I remembered.
Another few weeks for ours
Why doesn't the world do it on the same day?
I remember Tomb Raider
[goes off to a happy place]
Just watching quali highlights!
I think Kobiyashi (good spelling i know) must have brought some GP2 drivers and replaced them with F1 drivers!! So many flipping crashes!!!
Simple Minds Dance!
hahahahahahahaha
Loves it :)
Australia is great because half the country doesn't do it. Even on the same coast we don't all do it, VIC and NSW do but QLD don't so I go from having to remember 3 time zones at work to having to remember lots and I get confused :(
That's true
QLD & NT really don't need to though
very true. I don't know why WA don't do it, apparently they had a vote last yearand the population said no but everyone I know from other there wishes they still had it.
NZ did it last week so my mum has been confused the last week as to what time it was over here so I'm glad its back to a 2 hour difference and she will be able to work it out easily :D
Right, im off, hope y'all have a good evening. I may speak to you soon, maybe not, depending on the reliability of my internet....boo
see ya
Take care Jon
Ooh, Lorenzo grabbed pole for Estoril
bye!
Still no sign of them, the hat is on the Renault F1 store. Might have been before and just didn't notice it :)
Queensland really does... it gets light at 4:20 in the morning!
the most insane place is tweed heads, half the town is in NSW and half in QLD. the timezones are literally different on one side of the street to another!
I did get my hair cut:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-285 phew
it feels like you were there for hours and hours and hours
Very nice Alex :)
In hair related news, I'm growing mine to be like Kimi's :lol:
Katherine has explained that when you get your hair cut it is supposed to get shorter.
It did, but not that much...
You have no idea!
woohoo!
I noticed
I have some clippers if yiou need them. Unfortunately, they are not Orange
I have a long way to go, though. Maybe by the start of next season :D
We need before and after pics
Well I have one from tuesday which I guess will act as before. ;)
I really want to do this, but I might get to the point where it annoys me and gets shaved off.
just got some monthly stats on our website(s) uptime...
sidepodcast (hosted on media temple)
uptime: 99.12%
outages: 48
f1 minute (hosted by slicehost)
uptime: 100%
outages 0
Is it really 99%? It feels like less.
Amy: I had no idea you had planned to do so much in Europe.
Sounds ace!
http://daydreamingoutloud.com/
Hello
Hey Pat
That was what crossed my mind :)
Yooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuu gotta SWITCH!
others plugging so I don't have to. Love it.
You are so close to Amsterdam and yet...
nooooo tiiiiiime
Also, Florence & Siena between Rome & Milan
One of my friends who is in Europe the other day told me "i think that you would be making a serious tactical error if you didnt go to florence!" on facebook after he recommended a hostel there and I said I wasn't going. I would love to go everywhere that is recommended to me but it all is time and money I don't have :(
After this weeknd, once Spa tickets are purchased, you'll have to do an update
For me, skip Rome. See Florence & Siena
99% is actually a lot of outages though.... I mean if you think about down for one minute every 100. That's once every hour and a half.....
oh yes, I'll need a forwardisation (thats a new word, way-hey) of the confirmation email so I can print screen it and go LOOK LOOK LOOK OH MY GOD ITS HAPPENING
I amost fell out of my chair when I read this :D http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/capture-jpg-2
ahahaha!
You're buying them next week?
Or to put it another way..
60 mins x 24 hours x 30 days = 43,200 mins in September.
x 1% = 432 minutes downtime.
/ 60 mins = 7.2 hours downtime in September.
oh no, maths!
blimey!
and f1minute... none.
Wasn't it you that wanted to be the accountant?
What's that movie converter for the mac that you all love?
heheheh I was good at maths! I even enjoyed it! But not at 3.30am :D
visualhub. but they're not developing it anymore. one sec.
I love them all... Don't make me pick one....
Pick Rome. I've been more times. But I love Florence & Siena.
Bed time!!
I'm doing Rome because like a traditional boring tourist, I'm going to all the capital cities. This means more time for other places next time :D
feels like 2.30 so nope, not yet :D
hmm, seems to have moved here:
http://transcoderredux.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/transcoderredux/
haven't tried it, and don't know if it's snowy compatible though.
I've never been to Rome. I didn't like Florence so much. It was a total tourist trap. Completely. There wasn't an inch that wasn't swarming. I think Rome might almost be big enough to get away from them at some point....
I would say that Florence, Siena and Verona are great places to visit that I love very much. But they are places to go if you have seen Rome and Venice. Because then you can enjoy the non-touristy Italy.
I think it depends when you go. Florence when I went was better than most of the reports I've had of it.
Rome is big enough to avoid it. I may be wrong here. But if you've come from the other side of the world you need to do a bit more of the trophy collection than you do if you live nearby? Don't you? You want to say... I saw this and I saw that, and for the people back home to know what you meant?
Just like I'd go to Sydney Opera House and Aires Rock if I went to the other end of the planet?
ooh, another rock...
Do you think if I uploaded a .mov to my goforodd it would play normally on the player that I have on there?
I drop.io this one again (I didn't know where the first one would be :)) Alonso was already on the walls of Ferrari http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/phoca-thumb-l-symonds-fisichella-jpg
I think Mrs C would be happy, but they have spiders in Australia Mr C!
I think the first thing people would say to me if they knew I went to Italy would be "so did you see the Colosseum?"
should do, but if it's for a podcast, shouldn't you export in ipod format?
See! I told you it would work when i go and find it somewhere else!
ahh. i needs one surrounded by water.
Yeah. Exactly. Followed by the Vatican? Probably?
I guess my interest in Italy is in improving my language. When I travel I like to get away and get into the local culture. I'm a happy camper..... Nice to go see some smaller places, meet some locals.
:D
Okay... So I just did a quick thing in Photo Booth... What do I do now?
probably or 'those canal things'. then pizza. :D
Please help me... I have no idea what I'm doing on this mac :)
Absolutely... Which reminds me...
quicktime in snowy is different. but i open in quicktime and export in ipod format.
or. can you open in imovie, and export from there?
That's what I'm really looking forward to in Spain and the reason I'm going to three different places there. I looove the language and I want to hear it all the time and hopefully improve my own a bit.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=da+baffetto+rome&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=da+baffetto&hnear=rome&view=text&latlng=8769491098482194478
This is the place for Pizza in Rome to go to... However... When I went there there were long queues down the street but moving fast. It was totally worth the wait for us. But for the woman ahead of us it wasn't because she was by herself. They wouldn't let her in by herself because she was a single customer and they wouldn't be able to fill the seat opposite her. And with the queue snaking down the street I guess he felt he didn't have to. So another reason you'll have to get Alison along :)
I thought you were Mac savvy?
Oooh iMovie! I have that!
You need to find yourself a nice Spanish man....
I used to have one and then he left :(
Or Handbrake
Ummm... I know enough to get by... I used to know macs before they went all Unix on me ;)
ooooh I like food advice but boo if they won't let you in alone!
This weekend
Deal
Ok, cool
Boooooo!
Baffetto 2 the sister restaurant will let you in alone. We ate there on our second visit to Rome. The food was as good but the atmosphere less dynamic and exciting
down with visas that expire!
It's covered in flies
http://www.orsobruno.com/intro.html is the place to driver spot in Monza. I'll need to bring Alison along to translate their website first.
Errr I'm not going to a steak house....
this might be why
they do pizza too! Vegetarian ones I'm sure!
I'm optimizing my video now apparently :)
:D
Their pizza menu is arty farty. I can't really work out what's on each kind.
Or as they call it: "Italian"
Errr have you ever encountered Sun pizza or Fire? What on earth is on those?
Mr C! Mr C!
How do I export it... Share is grayed out?
Chillis?
Thats the beauty of traveling, ordering mysterious food you have no idea what it contains!
this is probably the most bizarre thing I've seen a F1 driver do http://www.mclaren.com/footwear/index.php
My productive side wants to get things done. My lazy side wants to sit here and read comments/tweets I missed earlier.
I'm veggie. Kinda puts a bit of a damper on the ordering random food plan....
oh the jokes I've made about putting shoes on your face
hmm. i don't use imovie. gimmie 5,
didn't i do a whole live show wearing shoes on my hands?
That restaurant looks lovely. I don't know why there aren't pictures of their courtyard though. Sounds like an opportunity missed.
Sorry... I'm just such a doofus and Katherine is using my PC. This is an important learning experience for me :)
Oh dear... I dont eat fish which is a bit difficult, but ithink its worth the risk for me, i have found some awesome foods traveling
rings a bell
Hehe :)
It is becoming clear how productive I'm being, I've found this now http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/8oq2p8rn3b-1-jpg
Yup! I remember that :)
from the top menu: share > export
or apple+e
right I'd best go to bed or I will sleep through the race. Night!
Right... that's what I thought... It's grayed out :(
See ya Amy
Night!
give us a screenshot. have just dropped a photobooth video into iovie and it's worked straightoff.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/screen-shot-2009-10-03-at-18-03-59-png
hiya everyone
*waves wetfully* I dont even know if thats a word, it just feels appropriate
Maybe I did the wrong thing with the video
wistfully?
Did you see the scarf?
Glock ain't starting
"Glock definitely won't be starting in Japan and the FIA said no to the idea of Kobayashi takinghis place. So 18 cars on grid and MW in pits"
RT'ed by Dank so I guess its reliable.
if wistfully means tired and wet via completely drenched right through in heavy rain whilst waiting for a late bus after a tough day.... then yes :)
I did!! it cheered me up :)
Excellent!
Yet another reason to try to figure out a way to force in-season seat time fro reserve drivers. Though It's a shame that Kobayashi was not allowed, since he did actually drive the car on Friday.
:( Well better to be safe than sorry.
He didnt qualify he cant race. Its as simple as that.
Same with massa, same with anyone else. Otherwise you could hire somone like trulli to qualify for you then put someone else in the car to race.
Changing that rule would be ridiculous.
A way it could work is that whoever came in could start from the pits.
But yes, that's not the rule
don't the videos need to be in the top left box?
Yes, I agree the rule is being followed, and for the first time from the FIA, consistently!
Kobyashi that his.
hope glocks ok though, it will hopefully help him get over his illness aswell in time for brazil.
Bit of a disaster for toyota at their home race, hopefully it wont have any effect on their decsions over staying in the sport
To be fair, Trulli is looking handy in second, so its a bit up and down for toyota innit.
Agreed
But they'd have to have some recent track experience
A shame for Mr Postlethwaite really
I understand but it is a shame cosidering it Kobyashi took part in practice.
After tommorows race only 16 drivers will have take part in every round of the grand prix so far.
Okay... if I drag it to the top left box it doesn't do anything...
Hello all, back from town with new Terry Pratchett & Bernard Cornwell books so very happy bunny. Mr C, Waterstones do have Sony Readers on display for you to play with. They are larger than I thought (c. 4in screen).
does it not stay up there?
ooh. will check it out next weekend. ta.
True, but that would only be applicable in the bizarre situation we have here where Kobyashi has done Friday practice. otherwise you would put someone straight into the race without any running which could be very dangerous
am thinking for the next podpanel series, we need an "acronyms and their meanings" round.
Alex:
iMovie tutorials
http://www.apple.com/ilife/tutorials/#imovie
Odd fact... my friend is Bernard Cornwell's daughter
Oh please Noooooooooo!
:D
Nope, it won't go.
He's one of my favorite writers, always get his books as soon as they are published
Noooo, must wait for Mac Tablet Netbook Thingy
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/22620/
hmm, until it does, it won't export. that's your timeline.
tis interesting. if/when it ever arrives.
It will
But it'll be too far away and too expensive :(
I may still end up buying a BlackBook
BOOM!
Right you have to import it which puts it at the bottom, and then drag it from the bottom to the top, and then export it.
I was dragging it from the desktop to the top... You can't do that apparently... because... I have no idea
ahh, soz. i just did all the above automatically.
There is some bad language here... But one of my favourite blogs on the whole of the internet... And the one that makes me laugh more than any others is Antonia's: http://yetanotherbloomingblog.blogspot.com/
we're off outside. there's no food in the house due to moving. will keep in touch via the mobly.
I thought the answer to that was Dominos?
Be careful!! There are trees and pavements out there!!
#mfc
Don't feel like pizza.
Tis okay. I can see the sense of it now... We were talking at cross purposes and it makes sense to me now.
Christine must be busy :)
You actually know everyone, don't you?
Ah okay... Well I'll let you off this time :)
Of course :)
I do feel like I should have just put this video on my drop for all the trouble it's caused me!
I've done a calculation of the grid and I'm a bit worried - it doesn't match anyone else's calculation of the grid...
There's also fuel stints and times elsewhere on the blog. I've been busy this afternoon ;)
gotta learn sometime.
No, must learn Mac ways
#mfc
Very true :) Thank you Mr C & Bassano :)
My Mac bias aside. You can't beat Apple for playing around with media
[sorry Christine]
It's a funny thing. I wonder if this is going to make sense to anyone but using a Mac is, to me, very much like using Office 2007.
In Office 2007, at first everything seems to be in the wrong place, and stuff that used to be right there dammit isn't there any more, but as time goes by you find where everything you used to rely on is, and then you find all of the new awesomeness that you never knew was there or available which is much simpler. Except that's where the analogy breaks down because there isn't that much new awesomeness in Office 2007.
The iPhone works in a much simpler way on the PC fact. You plug it in and it mounts it as a disk and all of the pictures movies and user created audio are right there as files.
You sound like Swiss Toni :)
I prefer to automatically sync to iPhoto but I know what you mean
Auto back-up is nicer too on Mac
:)
Right... It's the same as this movie thing... Once you have decided that these suites of applications are going to be the ones for you then you are fine because they manage all of the files and everything. But weirdly the mountable disk is a more intuitive thing out of the box.
Anyone thinking about buying an iMac
I may be upgrading soon and folgging my 2.4GHz 20" Alu
Over a year's Applecare included
Hehehe drivers' press conferences are comedy gold. The concentration in Vettel's face when he's pouring his juice out..... :P
Is that James Allen with a really bad throat?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8288240.stm
either that or you've just insulted peter windsor more than you could possibly imagine
OK who in F1 HASNT got a cold
Mr C is ordering a New Zealand lamb steak with mint sauce. He says that should make at least two people happy :)
Its the pig flu
Why couldnt he have caught it when he was commentating?
YESSSSSSSSSSS
Are you in a restaurant!?
Am pretty sure domino's dosent do New Zealand lamb ;)
Right... I think this has worked... I have had my haircut and made a video about it... It took FAR less time to record the video than it did to upload it. But I feel we've all learned something here today :)
http://goforodd.com/2009/10/the-haircut/
This is because I was mean to him earlier isn't it ;)
#sorrymrc
JAKE!!! LEARN NOT TO STAND OUTSIDE A GARAGE WHEN THE CAR'S FIRING UP!!!!!!
Which reminds me Bassano... You never told me your joke!
I forgot
Will have to have beers again ;)
Yum!
Arty shot: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/2009-10-03-18-46-40
No, it's just a cold
heya, everyone having a nice day?
A lazy one
Hi Lou
Hullo :) how was brand hatch?
ahh nice. :)
Were you a Brands Lou?
Hope you were snapping
very very windy, and kinda empty.. have got lots of photos (many probably rubbish but never mind) :) twas a nice afternoon.
yep, we live 30mins away and it was only £12 General admission today so we thought we'd head down this afternoon so i can get some phototherapy :) has been a bit of a tough week. plus it's my last free weekend unitl after my birthday, so it ws a bit of a treat :)
Glad someone else is getting blown away.... Thought I'd imagined it!
Oooh hopefully if you go a fair bit, you'll get to know some people at the circuit. They might let you tag along elsewhere with them?
waitwaitwait, £12 for BTCC?!?
We've had non stop gale winds since I woke up for the f1.
i couldn't believe how windy it was, and i had nothihng to tie my hair back with. after about 10mins according to mum i was the definition of windswept :D lol was fun though... if a little cold.
yep £12 general admission for today (i assume the price is the same on race day?)
I was too on the way home. I had to search for ym face because the wind was so strong it blew it away. Probably.
Not to mention the lovely rain that accompanied said wind. Ah the heavy rain. Wet.
haha noooo, £28
Right everyone... A very special request... Katherine is embarking on a new project... She is going to do a piece of creative work every week based on suggestions by people like you... Please go and give her a suggestion. This a really neat way of starting creative projects and I'd love it if you guys could support it :)
http://kathall.co.uk/blog/2009/10/i-dont-have-to-take-pictures/
Croft's only £25
#gonortheast
My bedroom is an attic conversion. I sleep right up in the roof. The noise last night was plainly horrendous! That's why I'm so tired now. Determined not to go to sleep for a bit yet though.
that's true.although the people i bumped into today weren't very friendly :( and i got lens envy many times, they are huugggee compared to mine :(
ahh well saturday is obviously the best day to go to get photos then :P
Saturday is quali day, so alot cheaper
Am suit hunting online
Gearstick Cufflinks> anyone?
Maybe I should go to the wedding James Bond Style
Mystical secret agent links?
http://www.moss.co.uk/fcp/product/-/dresswear_suits/Moss-Bros-White-Tux-Jacket/960062101
Has everyone rushed off for dinner then?
They got scared off that picture ;)
*by
Waiting for Pizza. Generally doing nothing.
Nope, just sitting here quasi-re-watching quali, watching the Beeb feed vs. my local French Canadian feed. Got motoGP FP1 out of the way before and queuing up their quali.
Licence to comment
I had lunch at 5:30... confused me
Denied ;)
Doesn't matter what you call it, technically I had breakfast an hour ago
Been up for ages though
I have no food for later though...
Tongue-out concentration :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8288240.stm
You don't prep very well do you
Always have pasta & stir in sauce as back-up in the cupboard
Or burgers in the freezer
Well i have 2/3 of a bag of pasta, 2 lots of pasta sauce and a 6 keebabs in the freezer.
But thats for emergancies!
He looks alarmingly autistic....
Having no food would constitute an emergency
Eat one of those, go shopping tomorrow and top up the stocks
The reason its emergancy food is because its food i would rather not eat!
In-car pole lap from Vettel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8288259.stm
I LOVE Suzuka
My emergency food is mince pies!
Go hungry then :D
You're a student, that's allowed
All into the Sebastian appreciation now aren't we....
Hehehehe typical student!! Need to get stocked up with some tins of food that seem appealing to eat cold when you're drunk :)
I've always liked Seb
I'll like him even more when he joins McLaren ;)
I am plotting for a venture to sainsbury
saturday night... could be scary!
Sweet corn!
Or baked beans with those mini sausages
Night shopping is the best, i refuse to go shopping during the day, it's so much nicer at night
:D Hurry up and retire Raikkonen..... :P
eeeew
They invented rustlers for a reason... *i am so going to go and buy 5 of them for dinner :P
I did mine last night for wine and Tarramasalta
I fear Ferrari will nab him first :(
Sounds like something I'd do. Except I don't eat fishy stuffs. But still, seems like a random thing to need to go to the supermarket for....
If he gets stuck behind somone watch the commentator speculate on where he might have a go; and watch him sit there like a dear in the headlights with no idea how to do it :P
They'll ruin him. He's way too nice and honest....
On the way home from late shift
Wine for ending a hectic day
Tarra for toasted pitta bread dipping
BOOOOOOOOO!!!
I think it was Bassono who wanted before and after pics of my hair, in my quest to grow it to Kimi's length. I've also done my wiki page at the same time :) http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/James
We'll see
Am I the only one thinking Trulli?
Although to be fair its not impossible for him to overtake 1 person per season, and there are only 3 gps left so it could happen tomorrow!!!!!
Hmm, a little bit
I'm not sure how to take that :)
You're so nasty! He's awesome. I don't see Webber skipping past people either....
I wouldn't know either.
Nothing wrong with being Trulli-esque
You should be 'appy :)
Inside f1 is on bbc24
"Just learn to drive better" :D
John Watson.... Not dangerous, they just need to drive better.
He has a point!
I suppose, until now no one has said it. When I was younger people asked if I was realted to an F1 driver because of my surname (i'm not ;))
What, what's going on? What are you all quoting!
EJ: Drivers tring to make 'a big impact' this time of year
I was asking myself the same question
Inside F1 on BBC 24
I'm guessing its just the way the pic came out.
Oh okay. I'm busy watching masterchef atm....
I guess. I have very few pics of me and that is the most recent, I dare not show more incase I'm compared to anymore F1 drivers :D
Is John Watson's favourute film Rock IV?
He has great Dolph hair
How old is this, they have TC?
I'm assuming the clip of Luzzi driving the Toro Rosso? I think it was 2006.
Probably
Watson thinks Trulli and Vettel could colude to block the track to stop hamilton
TC? Top Cat?
WTF??
KERS is gonna hurt the front row boys
Anti Kers tactic
What sort of show is Inside F1 on BBC 24? It's not the generic Williams pumping show that is produced before ever GP?
Block him in, he means
If Lewis gets in front he'll romp home, in Watson's view
Well yes. I did say he needed to be heavier. Stupid Red Bull.
It's all gone too Power Rangers for me
It's a short item on the News channel for race weekends
?
They're blatently going to morph together to take down the evil KERS monster
He stands more chance of staying in front if lighter
Lewis will pit before him
Are you allowed to get together like that? Sounds like a fix to me....
I remember Renault and Red Bull getting together before for something like this but at least there was some link there. This just seems random.
This music always reminds me of Bill Bailey now ;)
If they do it independantly and not discuss it, yes
"listen to us, not the other ones"
I don't think he'll be in front at the first corner. Not unless he deploys Trulli to smash Hamilton off the track.... I'm not sure that's the co-operation Toyota had in mind!
Highlights Bit from jake and 1 of EJ/MB/DC bit of discussion with someone in the studio. Lap narrated by Mark Webber, bit more discussion. Weather forecast for the race
How can you do it without discussing it......
http://insidegrandprix.com/
Waiting for dessert?
Just block him in, it's in both their interests
home :)
Lisbon Treaty = :(
If Todt gets in, can we call for another vote too?
Ooops, hope that makes more sense
How do you know which way to go to do that. If the other guy doesn't move to fill the gap, do you not leave yourself open to attack from them if they choose to nip in front of you rather than block LewHam?
Errr?
It will be stopped by the czechs long enough for another vote, unless the eu starts acting like dictators which isnt that unusual.
Its approval will be probably good in the long term, it will hasten its downfall and collapse
You react, just no weaving
Yeah, that is what I meant.
Hmmm okay. I'm not convinced.
It'll be too late by then
We should vote but won't be given the chance
Europe will be the next USSR
that was the show bert was referring too.
Where did the Euro-hatred come from?
Being an island and generaly opposed to the likes of napoleon and co
Anyhow, shops for me!
Yeah. Europe doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm not nationalistic at all though.
I like Europe. I like the idea of the EU, needs a lot of reform though..
I wouldn't say I'm very nationalistic, though I like being a Brit..
Bonsoir SidepodWorld!
Salut guille
Evening Guille, how is Paris?
slightly cold and full of people... :-)
I already did my F1 related visit yesterday walking through Place de la Concorde, bu the FIA was already closed and there was nobody there...
I don't hate Eurpoe the lisbon treaty gives up to much power
I didn't read it all but I read a synopsis. What parts don't you like?
Too close to a single state, it's slippery slope. We should be close neighbours with our own control over economy & policy dependant on local conditions
Yeah things have taken a turn for the colder this week...
Okay. Thing is you're so interlinked. One county's problems can leak into another. Can you trust people to look after their own economies?
My afternoon by the river tomorrow may require a coat!
What's by the river?
Can't trust the EU or ECB either
Too many variants. One Interest rate, for example, is not appropriate
Am listening to Alex's recording of the Moss and Walker. Very funny so far :P
I have a date on the South Bank tomorrow
Stroll, lunch, that kind of thing
My own opinion is that in a world so interconnected that control over the economy has become an illusion. Unless you are self sufficient in everything, you win more by agreeing a common economic policy (even giving up certain economic sectors that are more competitive in a neighbor country) than sticking to the nationalistic path. But that requires a compromise beyond what most of the people will agree to take...
Same person as last time?
Hmmm fiscal policy in this country has financially crippled me :P I'm maybe not the right person to talk to about this. Interest rates over the past 10 years or so have conspired to screw me over :P
enjoy!
No, that's supposed to be the evening but I feel I'l be wiped out by then
Either up early or stay up for Suzuka
As long as it gets better for next weekend, I don't mind. I'll be inside the lab all the week probably. Next, London!
They've pretty much dropped since then, aside from a blip
That's what fixed rates are for
Ooh, SidepodDrinks next Friday?
Saturday? I arrive Saturday morning and leave Sunday night...
Anyone know how to get past level 37 of Meebings? ive been stuck for a few days now :(
Saturday's good
I'll ask Nick & Alex
i haven't got to level 37 :(
I've stayed away on purpose
It's just my personal circumstances and my age. It's all gone wrong just at the wrong time for me. Interest rates were too high when I needed to borrow and too low now I have free money. I'm really scared of inflation. My student loan grows at a terrifying rate.
Anyways. My tea's ready. I'll stop moping :P
What part of town are you staying in Guille
It's taken me a loooong time
I am still on the same level as always!!! I gave up. Sorry for getting everyone addicted.
Catchya later Alison
I don't know what it is but it sounds like something I should also stay away from...
i may have introduced my mum to it... she loves the cute little noises they make :D
Christine, I hear you watched Point Break
I've yet to checkout the post yet
It's a lemmings type game that is too addictive
I've done it :D
was alot easier than i was making it out to be
I did! I liked it.
That's not helping ;)
I wouldn't worry about the student loan. Let your earnings take care of it. It shouldn't be growing at the moment anyway.
i love the music. whenever i load up firefox its there, cheers me up no end
Utah! Get me two :)
I have a reservation in a hostel close to Hyde Park
I'm on 40 something of meeblings 2
;)
I'm in a sort of similar position, btw.
I'll DM you my number & email
Hehehe :)
Did you complete meeblings one?
i see the telegraph are putting their time machine to good use:
In pics: Japanese Grand Prix
Yup. Got stuck on a level, cant remember which though
okay so i have a big dilemma... i have lots of work to get done for monday as usual... but i also have photos to edit to i can show various photographers... what do i do this evening?
Homework 1st, get it out of the way
Use the available time after to do the best you can on the pics
crash fest
ok
clearly whoever did the captions dosent keep up to date with f1 news...
"All over? Webber's hopes of winning the championship look to have faded" (pic of him crashing)
It was over last weekend....
given how long they took to respond, i wouldn't rush to reply.
homework will take hours :(
okay..
i was hoping someone would give me the excuse to procrastinate..i'd rather look through and edit pics than do homework.. ah well. the comments have spoken...
:)
So, is the official grid not being announced until tomorrow?
are weights out?
I saw Jonny Noble mention that on his Twitter.
this is cheeky. car platform using our pics without permission (but with credit). and then associating the pic with a GMM story:
http://www.carplatform.com/carblog/2009/10/3/button-unlikely-to-win-title-on-sunday.html
rude!
You'll have so much fun with your pics you'll not want to do it later
You have have tomorrow with pics too with no homework to do
Yup
It is 9pm on a Saturday. Can homework be done tomorrow?
Copywritten?
Fight! Fight! Fight!
oh believe me.. textiles is going to fill my entire day from end of gp to midnight :(
anyway, i am going to do an hour or so of work then maybe some editting depending on how i get on... so.. if i start commenting, please please send me away again.
yup.
just naming and shaming.
No, don't encourage her. Get it out of the way
Have you complained?
Remeber, if it were not for the last minute, nothing would ever get done!
Deal
Good ol' last minute. Greatest invention ever.
But if you've got a lot to do, I'd recommend homework now.
fully or under some CC license? (I guess the first...)
tweeted.
when you reach A-Level you will discover the true meaning of 'alot to do'
Such an alien concept for me :-)
How did you find it, were you Googling yourself again? ;)
Close the tab, its not good for you, like smoking, sidepodcast becomes a habit.
use without permission is very rude! they probably don't know about the GMM thing
Your lawyer's on twitter? ;)
they tweeted the story: http://twitter.com/carplatform/status/4585956445
government health warning?
You'll be forced to put ugly labels on the homepage with those warnings.
Whyare you folowing a GMM fiend?
This is a Friend Feed thing, isn't it?
Anyway, they've had far too much airtime, rotters
ff searches for any mention of "sidepodcast" in any tweet.
I am at alevel... :( here is a part of my desk (the post it notes are my 'to do' list. and i think i may need to tidy it at one point.. :( not good...and yes i'm actually going now. :D
Ah, wise I s'pose
I think Jon was telling RG
Now close tab!
holy...
you need an intern.
Mr C: out of interest, what did you do to the F1M podcast to tweak,was it a post production thing?
Why was it different than the others?
twas meant for Mr RG ;)
was being normalised after the jingle was added. not before. literally a two second workflow change, but it actually sounded fine on our speakers. odd. but cheers.
yey!! you are very similar to me, my wall is post-it crazy too!
I tend to listen to things at a higher than normal volume
[still waiting for his badge]
Yeah, I'm figuring its gonna be a lot harder. So I'll enjoy this year at least...
making one during the off-season.
That's why you need to come to Spa, you'll nned the break before the tough stuff begins
It's easier to turn things down than up. But I must say that SidePostcast is one of the best produced 'casts out there.
cheers bert. we do try.
True story, and on that note, i have a guest post to copy up
Thing is, I'm going to France in February for my mam's birthday and somewhere in August, so I don't think I'll like that we could.
yippee. cheers sir.
I had absolutely nothing like any of you guys at alevel... not even a texbook...?!
i wrote it on the train on thursday (using an actual pen), just hadnt got round to copying it up, and seeing as im avoiding editing the feeder series, guest post it is!
Bunk off, do Feb and come with us to Spa in Aug ;)
Fair enough ;)
I'll see, I'll see, am not ruling it out completley.
Palm are up to their tricks again, have fixed the iTunes sync for the Pre
http://www.edibleapple.com/new-palm-pre-update-re-enables-itunes-syncing-again/
need to have dinner. see you!
Q:
Is it required that I shave for on an afternoon date?
I feel I am at my most rugged handsomeness peak when a little stubbly ;)
Bon Apetit Guille
Hehehe you obviously haven't seen the size of my student loan.... It's horrific amounts of money!
Don't worry ablut it, it'll be paid when it's paid. That's the whole point isn't it?
Exactly. Don't bust yourself paying it back, there are other priorities. It isn't like a normal loan.
Yeah. It's ridiculous though. To get to 22 and owe 24k, to know that you'll need to borrow the same again to get finished.....
Alison, a female perpective?
Lol I'm not paying! I'm saving my little socks off at the moment. It's not a nice thought though. I just got my statement. It makes me weep.
If you're going to get a decent job when it's done, it'll be worth it
A lot of pilots borrow stacks to train
Dates 1-3 yes dates 3 onwards optional ;)
4 onwards.. :P
Unless you one of those people for whom stubble really works......
....If you think you are one of those people....you arent
A first date? I'd shave if I were you. Depends how casual the place you're going is though....
It was supposed to be today, I would've got away with it if it were :(
Why not shave now and let it grow back a bit then
It's an afternoon stroll by the river. Nothing organised
I was thinking of batting my lashes to distract her
I wouldn do it in this country, you need a thin shirt, shorts and sandles, preferably saltwashed hair too. then i am one of those people ;)
Nonono. Stubble goes best with a suit.
That's a good solution, needs to be a really hot shower
I get serious razor burn sometimes
That depends on the suit....
If you're dressed like a scruff and have stubble, it's too much. If you're reasonably smart, then stubble can work for you.
That's my opinion anyways. If you're planning on getting off with her, I'd shave either way though.
Have you tried using a safety razor instead of a multiblade and soap instead of foam?
I wouldn't do scruff on a date
Doesn't matter about planning to...
Remember, when I say stubble - http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Bassano+Clapper
I start at the crown and go down to the adams apple. Do you think that'd be a good idea?
I think this is the best solution
And befer it gets mentioned, I won't be live commenting either date :)
Awwww I find the date preparation amusing btw :P I'm sure that's not what you want to hear being manly and all....
Don't be silly, I wouldn't mention it if it bothered me in the slightest
I don't think i've ever done a date, i knew my girlfriend before we got together;
We do date-esq-dates now that we're together...does that count?
It's really cute. I always kinda assumed it was a woman thing. You going tomorrow?
It's one of those questions that you ask but already know the answer, was just looking for a different one ;)
that's... a lot..
Aye, two of 'em
I think the evening one may get postponed
[that's the second date]
Yeah, I know! They weren't supposed to be on the same day
Stud ;)
It's been too quiet lately, I'm getting back in the game, so to speak
Two women??
Must.resist.commenting.
If your not terified/excited/ worried/ happy then its not a date :P
Err, yeah. The afternoon one was supposed to be today - that's a first date
The evening one was scheduled for Sunday before Saturday's rescheduled
Too complicated :)
oh. rubbish ;)
waaaaiitttt, i didnt read the "happy or excited"
whoooooops
Yeah no adorable shaving dilemmas = no date
Exactly
See, my last girlfriend preferred me a little stubbly and I've always been more comfortable like that
Except when it's a formal occasion
Naaaah. You obviously don't get all nervous before you go to dinner with your girlfriend. That'd be mental. Therefore it isn't a date.
darn. i get a moan if i let it grow too long.
Jon + stubble DOES NOT = adorable
I share too much with this place
Is this how Giggles started?
I do get nervous.....about spilling food down me...
These comments are distracting me from writing my blog. Don't know if I should say thanks for keeping me amused.
When you shave your head with a razor, stubble is hard to avoid
:D
i manage to cut myself on a regular basis with an electric shaver
One of the rules I have found out is that never, ever, ever, ever share what you watched, sang or did in your day. It will come back to haunt you.
Electric razors = useless pieces of junk
I don't get a stubble, I get a full on jenson beard...
Hows Miley?
Strangely, I cut my face more often than my head
There's a knack, I've been doing it for years so I guess I'm pretty good by know. Don't use mirrors anymore either, until done
I agree
I wrote a song, oh my goodness how i regretted that, i was singing it for daaaaays
You still owe us YMCA! ;)
:lol:
I started shaving at 13, I know how you feel
surely that was your error then? the more you shave the quicker it grows back (at the beginning anyway)
Errr yeah.... I think relationship issues are probably the most concerning sharing ground :P
Was way too much bumfluff, couldn't be avoided
I'm beginning to look more like Vettel (with black hair instead)
And cricket scores ;)
Well, I lasted 7 months.
Nothing's worse than teenage fluffy beard growth though. I mean I know nothing makes 13 year olds attractive but losing the fluff can only be an upward move.
Precisely
012828 TRACK!
ooops
wroooong
To be honest I think the "proposal" was about the most alarming point! You all seem to have forgotton about that so I don't know why I'm bringing it up again but....
Its in me skype, so I have no excuse.
I dont think so... once you start to grow it, it looks ridiculous, its better to shave a lot and get it to proper stubble than just have fluff
It's in my phone, this scares me
whats the proposal?
Not forgotten, but the cricket thing is funnier ;)
I remeber that... it was all exciting and stuff!
forgotten the ending though...
A Sandra Bullock film ;)
hmmmm
IT WAS HORRENDOUS!!
I am rediscovering Dot Allison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65RxiqTPXk
oh my goodess....
I wrote "itunes" in word, it underlined it and said to change it to "iTunes"
scary
Are you engaged now then? I forget?
Does it sound like I said yes? :P
wait wait wait.
please someone tell me, i feel like im missing something huuuuuuuuge
Ah gottcha!
I just figured with the pregnancy and all...
:lol:
I'm with ya mate.
Not really Jon, just the usual absurdities of SPC
i can believe that!
i think i'm picking up bits and pieces....but am likely to be very wrong
Nick & I obviously need to get a life as we spend far too much time here :)
A few months ago, we were just having this chat like people do then he managed to blurt out that he wanted to marry me. At the time I laughed... Then I got home and realised that actually he might have been serious which was errrrm a bit alarming.....
This was just before he went travelling wasn't it?
Except I didn't want to actually ask him about it. It was bad times. He hasn't mentioned it since so it's all good. I think he might be scarred for life though.
ah ok, thats quite cute, he probably didnt mean right now, but at some point.
best not laugh in his face if gets mensioned eh ;)
What's happened to Facebook Lite, is it down?
I refuse to use the full, sheep-throwing site these days
Yeah, I think he was freaking out a bit about being so far apart. Which is understandable. But I don't want to get engaged like that.
Poor guy....
It's been up and down for me this evening, stupid website
He'll get over it
Understandable
Interesting tweet from edd straw from wayy earlier
If Gilles Villeneuve did it, he'd be a never-give-up hero. Buemi does it, he's an idiot. F1 double standards in action
He obviously forgot to do it one handed like he was riding a bronco!
I officially hate facebook - it used to be about what you were up to and your pics, now it's be my gangster/farm/drinking/speed racer/annoying game buddy!
That's why Lite is ok
When it works
Agreed...
It's funny, you cannot say ill about Gilles, even if you don't like him...
Wrong
Safety attitudes have changed
Do groups work? I need the MWM forum!
You can just ignore that stuff though. You aren't forced to add the applications.
No idea, I don't go to FB for groups
Isn't there a MWM web page?
Evening all
I thought you were big on the farming!
But it's all over my homepage! I have 100+ requests too!
Spammed by requests though
Hey!
You know I said in the Sim Racers Weekly show that NFS Shift has its flaws? Well playing onine, you overlook them. Just won a race at Silverstone GP in a Maserati MC12 GT1. No HUD, in-car view, way out in the lead. Absolutely mindblowing :D
Shouldn't have said anything so stupid then! I only didn't bring it up to avoid further embarrassment. I think he's almost convinced I believed it was a joke.....
Buemi as Gilles? Edd Straw needs to be slapped
online*
Went off it. It's just clicking for nothing!
Again, agreed. Facebook Lite is the way to go
Haha and how many friends? :P
oooh thats a bit harsh, to him its not stupid
He was probably just dipping his toe in....
Don't like him?? I don't understand
Yes but the MWM Facebook collective is EPIC.
And discovered the water was freezing ;)
Too many :(
hello collective!
Don't go there.
Hehe.
I found the facebook lite showed me stories that weren't shown on the main site.
its easy to get rid of them, below the notification it says something like "Block all notifications from Farm ville"
Except the way he went about it
Anyway, enough of this
I'm sure Alison would rather we move on
I quit it after that fool convinced me they are all F1 hating, pretentious morons with his ridiculous blog post
I was going to mention Piranhas but didnt want to upset anyone ;)
Lol. You're not in my relationship though. If you knew me, you'd know I didn't want to get married right now. He's lovely and maybe someday but that day is not today!
Mr I ME mine!
Please check out F1 Minute website, I left a message for you there.
Thats fair enough, but he may not have known this, and may have just been testing the water
Yeah maybe. He's still a daft boy.
Lee McKenzie worked for Sky!
So that's why she irritates me. And I didn't even know that before
BBC2 are doing a Monty Python night by the looks of it
I have said this so many times - she did the A1GP stuff!
I'm watching Stargate. I'm not sure when I became such a nerd. It doesn't seem like an appropriate way to spend your Saturday night.... :P
I block her out to be honest
She needs something decent to do and then I'll maybe give her a chance
Oooo which Stargate? :D
I'm watching Muse videos. I'd feel guilty not doing anything else on a Saturday night I've become so used to it
And discussing pre-date shaving options is?
She used to anchor the whole coverage - not just be the pitlane dolly!
I am playing Facebook Poker. Don't ask me why!
I hate Sky, they are evil
I probably would've watched it elsewhere
Getting some practise in for the sidepodpoker tournament?
At least that suggests other people exist that want to spend time with you :P
They didn't move the other side of the globe!
Still lots of places available and its free.
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Sidepodcast+Poker+Tournament
At least you had somone to move to the other side of the globe!
Indeed.
I won't discuss my last gf who moved back to Sydney then
I reckon this should become the standardized image for facepalming
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/fp-jpg
Intresting, I'd probably lose badly so I'll stay out of it ;)
It's not for cash, don't worry
yeyyy, thats awesome
aww thats cute. if anything Buemi should be facepalming after quali.
It's a free tournament. No money is at risk at all. We have no idea if any of us can play
yeah but i'd still lose badly :P
I watched the motorsports poker tournament on sky (sorry bassano) you cant do worse than Jaques.
Well I know I'm no good :P
Booooo!
Uh huh
6 years, I still wonder if I shoulda gone but I know I wouldn't be happy living in Oz
This I can relate to :(
So you see why I'm more than happy to have TWO dates tomorrow :)
Hedging your bets?
Not really
The girl I'm seeing in the evening I had a great first date with.
Loads in common, just no sparks really. Want to see if there's anything there. We'll probably end up being mates
Bring her sidepodpubbing ;)
Yeah, right!
Right, i need some help..
One of my event marketing assignments is to start a blog about marketing communications i get from events people after i sign up for 2 events..
So far i've signed up for "The Event Production Show" but need "2 quite different events", that are to take place between the end of January and the beginning of March/end of February....
so need another event in that time frame, thats completely different to the Events Show..it literally can be anything. any ideas?
Can I suggest not? :P
Already there
Copius boozing and dating do not match
That probably won't happen, the mates bit that is.
I have quite a few female friends
In fact one of my best mates is female
I was her best man, type thing, at her wedding
I meant the one you will be mates with...
I am always open to introductions :D
maid of honour?
Being friends with people you've been out with is quite depressing I think. Rarely does something end completely amicably.
Being friends with random women is different.
As am I ;)
I don't doubt that :), its just you don't know what it means to her the date and such.
Without the dress, yes :)
How are you with strong Scottish types?
[not bodybuilders ;)]
Yeah thats what I tried to get at but didn't use the right words. With me female friends are fine, it's male ones I have problems with :lol:
A couple of dates isn't 'going out'
At this point I don't seeing it going anywhere. I may be wrong, I'm being open minded about it all
Whats Steven Roy got to do with this? ;)
I intend to find that out soon
Everyone judges things differently ;)
I guess there is only 1 way to find out...
I like to think I have quite an eclectic and decent taste in music
Then why do I like The Ketchup Song so much?
It's just wrong on so many levels
Are you on FB?
But she might not feel like that. What if she really likes you? In my experience people are more than happy to "be friends" if they have real feelings for someone. Rarely does it develop into a sustainable friendship though.
yes...
We might need to discuss this before i commit to going on a massivly blind date though!!!
Alison I heart you right now :D
I know, I've been there
I'll be subtley enquiring tomorrow
Anyone remember Sidepodlonelyhearts?
Nope. please explain :)
No, don't worry
I'll give her a heads up and suggst she 'friend' you.
You can chat there
Yeah I rock. Alas my heart belongs to another. Stupid though he may be.
Aye
Hehe. It is ok female doesn't work for me :P
Basically it was an idea for the singles of sidepodcast to 'advertise' themselves, I don't think it ever got past the chit chat stage of it though. But this scenario...
The prospect of sidepodrelationships is terrifying!!
Hmm I vaguely remember that.
sounds it dosent it!
would have worked as a radio show ;)
Do i open the box of mince pies that i have in my cupboard?
Go for it, mate!
depends how hungry you are?
History is finished :D that will be enough for tonight i think. what have i missed?
i fancy something, not sure what though
you have mince pies! it's only just October!
hahaha, sooooo much.
Is it an emergency?
yeah but i love them, and they'll keep till november
im hungry?
Erm the brief return/idea of sidepodlonelyhearts and thats probably it.
but november isn't Christmas either....
You mean this is the end of the world?
Can you clarify, what kind of event, an official one?
What about Autosport International meet-up?
Mince pies are an all year round meal.
oohkkaaay.....
Yeah nothing intresting :D
oh ha ha ;) you know what i mean. ;)
Should I shave for an afternoon date tomorrow?
I last shaved yesterday morning
It really can be anything; but i need to have either post or email marketing from it, or atleast communication, dosent have to be lots, just some
hmm ok, but perhaps we should discuss it next week asuming thats going ahead with guile?
This is where the terror comes into dating kids ;)
i like them too, but they really aren't (not in my opinion)... they are for December, just like christmas decorations and carols. It upsets me that Christmas basically starts in October in shops :(
If you're up for Sat then cool, I was going to ask Alex too
Not sure if Katherine will let him go SidepodPubbing at the weekend ;)
The Autosport thing is Jan isn't it?
We had our stock in September. I had to sort out loads today (by myself, grr) and that annoyed me :(
depends on how many times you've met her and if she's expressed any liking for stubble... but i'd say yes.
In Montreal there's a Christmas shop. Was very weird being inside there in July!
Do you get advent calendars in NZ or do I need to buy one before I go? I'm such a big kid, I can't get by without one....
of christmas things? that is awful :(
:(
Looks like I'm not getting away with this :)
that would upset me alot. it ruins the whole feeling of christmas..
Did you not know they have Christmas in June down under?
Hehehe I already said shave now!! You're missing your chance...
the comments have spoken?
It freaked the hell out of me
Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever work in retail then :P
They have
Alison suggested shaving tonight, which is a good compromise
oo i agree with Alison... good idea....
I won't shave as close and do it in an hour or two :)
i see.
Everyone loves Christmas stock deliveries in August, right?
A tech class, I think graphics, had to design christmas cards starting in september, so thats a bad idea as well.
I wish that was a joke but you know as much as I do how true it is :(
I'm so full of humbug, Christmas depresses me
in august? that's just depressing.
yeah but i'm trying to avoid the autosport show because im already doing a trade show, but hte meet up could work, i just need to get y'all to send me fake-official looking emails ;)
i get really grumpy around Christmas. December is always such a bad month for me... throughout my life i seem to be very unlucky or horrible things tend to happen to me in December. Plus listening to overplayed christmas songs annoys me. i like the actual day of christmas though :)
i agree about the rest of christmas stuff, but they were on offer and i couldnt resist :(
im sorry
it's fair enough, they are very nice ;)
hehe so you should be ;)
:P
One of the few Christmas Days I remember being good was whilst backpacking. BBQ by Bronte beach, Sydney
Such fun!
random f1 related question BBC F1 coverage starts at 5:10am tomorrow right?
[Listens to Massive Attack '100th Window']
I miss getting up stupidly early for Grand Prix's :(
Where's Lukeh, and that photo on the drop...
I've not decided where to spend Christmas this year. I should probably decide. I think Jack's gonna fly over and see me so I'm not so bothered anymore. I'm hoping I can buy Christmassy paraphernalia over there....
0500-0810
Interactive coverage of Race, with alternative commentaries, Onboard camera and rolling highlights
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_and_radio/5345480.stm
Yep
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/09/30/japan-schedule/
you not getting up to watch it tomorrow then?
TV Guide says 5:00
okay.. so i need to set my alarm for 4:50... i suppose that means i should get what sleep i can then....
I'm going to be knackered tomorrow, I won't get any sleep before the race but need to stay up after it
no tv, and even if i bought a tv licence to watch it on my computer there's no guarentee my internet will be working then :(
Halls should have WiFi, needs to be the law
you date kids?
i would vote for this
Anyone had any Freeview retuning issues?
I've not done mine yet
Don't watch Ch.5 so am in no hurry
Ours had unsecured wifi as well as a secure ethernet connection. No-one used the wifi really though. It was totally open....
:( oh noes! that's awful :( i must make sure when i go to uni i have a means of watching f1.. either that or come home each f1 weekend :D
no sleep? wow!!
Er. No.
I have a blank channel, no clue what it is. Just no names but programmes.
none at all. has ch5 stopped?
most halls have decent internet after a while, it becomes more reliable. im going to get hte computer man to look at my computer settings because somethings not right!
I feel the punctuation loss was a mistake there ;)
I feel the same. This is partly because of being bombarded with it for 3.5 months, partly from having a split family.. although the two sets of presents was ok..
It's moved
Available to more people I think
Nick, you're a wee young pup aren't you?
Well there is a sensible way to read everything...
Yes, verry
The BBC may start then, I will start at 5.59am
And miss Legard's build-up, how could you?
hehe the chain has just started playing on my ipod which reminds me of earlier when i heard an advert for the f1 coverage on the radiowhile on the way to brands hatch.. it said that it was Jenson's first opportunity to clinch the championship, which made me all excited, then i realised where he qualified and my heart sank a little. gives me goosebumps thinking how close it is though...
I miss having a Grand Prix on my birthday.
Few years ago it was China, so got up at stupid o'clock, watched a wet race on a drying track, such an awesome race then went for a walk across the fields afterwards, all before brekkie. Such fun
watch it online anyway. they can't tell.
i have morals :P
Technically it worked... they took away ITV3 and ITV4 in these parts, they say to provide us with FIve... except we already had Five on Freeview.
Were you at Brands today?
what number?
You're not missing much
You should check your unis internet usage policy. It'll probably specify if they comply with license inspectors. Some unis actively seek out people watching tv live online and report them to the inspectors....
me too! it was Japan last year for my birthday, such a lovely day! :) was rather special. This year is going to be rubbish though :( am spending my 18th (on a monday) at school! and the weekend before it (next weekend) i have school open day, no doubt loads of homework and am busy with friends on the sunday/ sat evening. i've not had the opportunity to arrange anything either, which makes me kinda sad :(
yep :D spent the afternoon there taking photos :D
Sidepodlonely hearts at 6 AM... not bad. :D
Morning, everyone. ;)
It doesn't even say that.
and then there's the way it was written and the ability to take a joke about it
they don't
Morning... debating if i should sleep or not... might give it ago in 20 mins...
good innit :-)
well i dooo :D
I'm missing the ability to DVR the BTCC coverage tomorrow. And they have Red Bull Air Race. And my Aunt likes all the classic murder mysteries on ITV3.
Alarm set for 5:20. Can't be bothered with Legard at that early in the morning, but giving myself time cos my laptop likes to misbehave when I don't want it to. No driver to support, but BMW are in a good position. Nice I suppose in a way to focus on my team for once. But that evil, blind Sutil ain't far behind. Remember, he'll win the race tomorrow. Last words, simply get well soon Timo. Lotsa love.
Monaco was on my a couple of year ago.
Will never happen :)
#MFC 3D is coming.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8285187.stm
this is why F1 should be going HD next year, it will be out of date within 12 months!
link fail http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8285187.stm
Hi Journeyer
I thought it was tomorrow you were going. Did you manage to identify the drivers OK?
I didnt get enough
Last NightThis morning!I'm thinking if I should sleep again too...
Silly idea
So is 3D cinema
i didn't see any drivers in the flesh only in the cars. i think i got some nice photos though, and got some practice which is what was needed :)
Then try it while you can, otherwise it'll be 3am before you know it
hey
Pat, have you heard Massive Attack's "Splitting The Atom" EP?
I think a new one launched, or was supposed to launch. Could be that.
Will do, i just ate so i might give it couple of mins
I haven't. Should I? That's probably a silly question..
Listened once only so far but, it's Massive Attack, so yeah
There is no substitute for photographing cars I suppose
Quest
Looks a bit like Bravo
http://www.questtv.co.uk/
i'll go back as soon as i can, and probably lots of times, i kinda wanted to get a feel for the place today :) i did come to realised that i'm not actually tall.. not compared to some people, specially the unofficial photographers with huge lenses that push in get in the way of several shots... grrr. :)
I'll remember to look it up
Oh dear, they're showing T.J. Hooker
Ill have a look in the morn.
Defo going now, see yas.
Its owned by discovery i think
cyas
Gerais Politics is on Ch4.
Just did the bit about hupdy dumpty ...brilliant!
See ya.
omg it's 11:30, i need to get some sleep otherwise i'll sleep through my alarm, and as it's my responsibility to wake mum and dad up tomorrow for the race i better not miss it...see you all at 5am! i hope... night x
night
night
Night!
I remember when he was funny
You need to develop sharp elbows
Night Lou
Extras was great
Night Lou
I liked some of them
Patrick Stewart, Kate Winslett
He was funnier before he was famous
Xfm and the 11 o'clock show
Woah! Easy on the mega post!
Night to the sleepy heads
But it's a great post! Makes a lot of sense.
It's a little large no?
Maybe split it in two with a break
That said, Iaian, you also have to consider Glock dropping to the back (new chassis) and Liuzzi dropping 5 places (new gearbox) before those penalties.
Surely it depends if you move everyone all at once or one at a time. If you count already dropped drivers as a spot to drop then you all don't fall as far.
Glock's not racing
Does that happen first though. Aren't those penalties applied afterwards. The other penalties are just to make the quali goings on fair. Those penalties seem more of the pre-race variety :P
Confirmed? Autosport says they have yet to decide?
Cross thread discussions
Mr C will HULK out
I was happy to see they all got penalties but they should all have been thrown to the back of the grid. 5 place penalty is pointless and means the faster they went through the yellows the further up the gri they start the race.
Was tweeted earlier by R5L Noble or Lee, can't remember which
Would've made the stewards' lives easier too; they're not sure about the grid yet! But that's F1 for ya.
This is true.... I do think that element of the punishment is the stupidest. As I said, Alonso's ended up with the worst of both worlds. He didn't absolutely go for it through the debris, but he's still ended up with the same penalty landing him MILES down the grid.
christines programs going to go green?
There are rules about the order that penalties are applied. Probably too complicated for the stewards to understand
Quite likely
For all the talk of safety F1 still has its head buried in the sand
From adamcooperf1 on Twitter:
1 Vettel 2 Trulli 3 Hamilton 4 Heidfeld 5 Raikkonen 6 Barrichello 7 Sutil 8 Rosberg 9 Button 10 Kubica
11 Kovalainen 12 Buemi 13 Alguersuari 14 Fisichella 15 Nakajima 16 Alonso 17 Grosjean 18 Liuzzi 20/Pitlane Webber
I didn't even notice that post was in another thread.... Too long to see the bottom of it :P
That'll never change
#Ari FTW
But how the heck have 2 people ended up between Button and Barrichello? I swear there was only 1 between them in the original standings?
SPEED TV story to compliment
Read: Charlie Whiting. :D Barrichello only lost 1 place, and Button only lost 2 places - that's very good news for them.
Adam says:
I reckon this could turn out to be another Monza for Brawn.
By the way, is Button still using the same chassis?
But fuel weights say they're on the same fuel load as Vettel, albeit heavier than the others.
I think it is going to happen.
Singapore may be more appropriate. No win, but solid points, possibly eliminate Vettel from contention. I'm guessing we'll wind up with Hamilton, Vettel, Barrichello, Button.
I hope so but doubt it
I sure hope you're right. Upset for the ages that would be. When's the election?
This month isn't it?
Yup. What date, though?
I'm so confused. Surely Button doesn't give a damn about how far they fall down the field as long as they both fall. He seems to have been penalised more than Barrichello. I don't see how this happens. It's ridiculous.
Obviously as Alonso came across it first, he maybe shouldn't be considered in the same light. The way he braked after he went past it almost suggests he didn't know what he was going through until he was past it.....
This is such a stupid way of dealing with penalties for the one incident. They should all be dealt with simultaniously.
There used to be a race called the Monza Lotteria. We already have a lottery for the grid
Do you think it's possible all the delegates are now finally seeing just how corrupt things were under Max decided they don't want that again? Ari can prevent that happening again, I'm sure of it.
Presumably Kimi is the big winner out of all this fiasco?
23rd.
Yup. Nick and Rubens are in very good positions too, considering they're heavier than Trulli and Hamilton.
Why does the official F1 site have a totally different interpretation of the grid to you guys?
Probably provisional.
Yeah it is. It's ridiculous though. How do you expect people to follow a sport if you can't work out something as simple as who did the fastest lap without a controversy.....
Pat: Just found
Portishead vs Massive Attack
Benefit Nights for the Crisis in Asia - Live in Bristol
It's F1, were kinda used to it unfortunately :(
At least the intention this time is correct, if not the execution...
Their penalty system is a joke though. If Rubens and Jenson had backed off, they'd have been left with no recorded time and been left 14th and 15th. What they did has left them better off as a certainty.
It's not really fair to leave people with no time either under those circumstances, there was such a limited amount of track time with no flags in operation. It was total roulette as to who got laps in while it was clear. It wasn't about going early or leaving it late. It certainly wasn't about showcasing talent or engineering triumph.
Which is why Steven has a point when he says they should've been dumped to the back of the grid.
That said, I think this 5-place grid drop may have been consistent with previous incidents of a similar nature. I'm trying to remember if there have been any such previous incidents.
I always kinda thought the lap was supposed to be deleted from the record as punishment. This case they didn't do that because there were actually NO other laps that weren't an in or an out lap?
That's how quali works. If you don't wanna take the risk, set a lap early. Might be slow, but at least you have a lap in. The longer you wait, the bigger the risk you take.
But some people went out earlier and had tyres trashed by the earlier accident? Still set no lap time.
Ahh, yeah, good point. Or there have also been incidents where they added a second to the total lap time - but that might be a weaker punishment compared to a 5-place grid drop. Makes life easier for everyone, though.
Yes it is. It was their own fault they didn't go out earlier and do more laps.
Then either go out on old tyres or wait until the end to set a time on new tyres. Again, it's the team's decision.
Exactly.
Then it's the same risk though? What if your good lap on the new tyres gets interupted? Running on scrubbed tyres isn't going to cut it.
cool, sounds good
I agree, however they only had time to go out and do one run.
In those circumstances the FIA should either put sufficient time on the clock to allow 2 complete 2 runs if some people havent set a time, or give everyone a guarantee that they get to do 1 run unimpeded by flags in each session.
DM'd you a link
I just dislike how reliant on luck this whole situation is. It just depends exactly where you happened to be on the track when it happened. It's not about risk. If you'd been a bit further behind the incident, it wouldn't have bothered you at all.....
Stuff happens, it's life
But if you remember, between the 2 Q2 crashes, Kimi and Trulli managed to set times. So it is possible. I'd agree to 1 guaranteed run, and Kimi and Trulli pulled it off.
Or use the time of the previous session
I don't know why I'm complaining. When it gets down to one chance do or die laps, it's my German boy that manages to nail it everytime!
It is if a bunch of people go and get penalties
Oooh, sounds like a promising rule. Would give more importance to Q1 times, too.
Powered by Python :)
Rubbish. Other people got clean laps in before the Brawns left the garage.
You can't do that because people in that session who are guaranteed to go through may not have been going as fast as they could
Yes, but there wadnt time to go out come in and go out again.
Since the tyres seem to be only good for 1 lap, they were at risk of the same thing effecting them whenever they went out.
It is amazing though. Vettel put the car on pole with half the number of laps that Raikkonen did.... It's crazy stuffs.
Exceptional circumstances, such as today
It would give more imputus to do your best in each session.
However if this had happened in Q1, what then?
Yes the risk was identical. I guess you have a shot at getting 2 fliers in if someone creates a brief yellow on your first shot?
He had a far quicker car.
Would have been interesting to see him up agaisnt webber there
It's like any other session. If you decide to wait until the last minute to go out and something happens you lose.
Someone asked JA if it's true that no one who didn't win in their first 100 Grands Prix has ever become World Champion. JA says it sounds right.
Barring a Vettel comeback for the ages, that's what we're gonna get.
Thats true, but the 2nd wouldnt be quick enough because of the tyres
Not really - team orders apply at RBR now (FINALLY), so webber won't challenge him. better for us if webber starts at the back and fights to move up the order.
But they were loosing because of other peoples mistakes, it didnt matter when they went out, the risk was the same
Vettel could still make 2nd couldn't he
I think he stands a great chance of winning it.
If he doesnt take it to the wire i will be very supprised
#louignorethis
i want Button to not score, Vettel to win, Barrichello to come second. and similar at the next race. i want a proper title show down like we've had in other years!"
Needs too mnay Brawn DNFs
That's Did Not Finish, folks
From 25 points back? That would be an even bigger choke for Brawn than when Lewis and McLaren choked away that 17-point lead with 2 races to go.
They had 6 minutes after the last yellow. They should have gone straight out and got three laps in.
Brawn might score lowly here, if they do the same could easily happen in brazil.
however i think they might be better off in AD than the bulls
Agreed. Button has said he won't change his style (i.e. he's staying out of trouble).
If there was a yellow then they would have ruined there tyres though.
absolutely
Agreed.
More like Is Not Finnish.....
That is a risk for every session.
:D Right, will try to get some more sleep before everything kicks off. Have to be up by noon for BBC pre-race. Later, everyone.
Ciao Journeyer
Brawn won't score lowly. They have a great track racord of getting out of trouble. I'd say another 4-5 or 5-6 is in order
Night Journeyer
see ya
I think a huge element of a bad score here would be this quali fiasco as well. Presumably that's not something that's about to repeat itself. If it does, some folk need to lose their superlicence.
Naaa. Not so bad. Only Vettel, Hamilton, Raikkonen and Heidfeld are likely to beat the Brawns.
theres a good chance one of those could slip off the track too.
I will be suprised if there sint a saftey car at some point
Guys, join us in the new Daily
I don't think it'll be a disaster. I just think if it was, it's probably because of this.
Anyho, I vote new daily. We're confusing Bert :P
Exactly. Perfect chance for some Ross Brawn magic