Ah yes, your friendly daily post from Sidepodcast. I've no idea what's going on in the F1 world at present, but thankfully Christine does. According to F1 Minute, newsworthy topics include Paul di Resta and Michael Schumacher. Let us begin then:

  • Paul (or PdR if you prefer), says for him Formula One remains a possibility. I don't think there are many people in the world who would begrudge him a drive, but if McLaren don't give him a chance where else do you think he'd fit in, and who would he replace?
  • Schumi has suggested that Hamilton may not have been able to bounce back if he'd suffered a second championship loss in Brazil, but are there any past drivers who've come closer, yet still managed to fight back to eventually take the crown?
  • Off-topic and in the comments, Trig has asked for thoughts on the evolution of the biscuit, which must be a sidepodfirst. If anyone has any opinion on the matter, please let us know.

Just like always, the daily thread is the best place to discuss anything that doesn't belong anywhere else on the site. Do shout if you find any exciting F1 related news, because it's a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

302 responses

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 05:13

    Schumi has suggested that Hamilton may not have been able to bounce back if he’d suffered a second championship loss in Brazil, but are there any past drivers who’ve come closer, yet still managed to fight back to eventually take the crown?

    Yes - Mansell lost out in 1986, 1987, and 1991 (all in heart-breaking fashion), but won in dominating style in 1992.

    On that note - happy 40th birthday, Michael! Go, Schumi!

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 05:14

    Yes - Mansell lost out in 1986, 1987, and 1991 (all in heart-breaking fashion), but won in dominating style in 1992.

    Come to think of it, he's the ONLY driver to have bounced back that well, and most of it would've been down to his sheer grit and determination. I don't think anyone else has managed it.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 05:18

    Paul (or PdR if you prefer), says for him Formula One remains a possibility. I don’t think there are many people in the world who would begrudge him a drive, but if McLaren don’t give him a chance where else do you think he’d fit in, and who would he replace?

    PdR would've been a good fit at Force India. If not, the soon-to-be-ex-Honda team can take him on, especially considering he'd probably be inexpensive.

  • Aitch03/01/2009 at 06:01

    Schumi has suggested that Hamilton may not have been able to bounce back if he’d suffered a second championship loss in Brazil, but are there any past drivers who’ve come closer, yet still managed to fight back to eventually take the crown?

    I think Schumi should check the stats books before he opens that gaping hole of a mouth of his again, Prost lost the title in '83 by 2 points and by 1/2 point in '84 but he still went on to win 4 championships.

  • Aitch03/01/2009 at 06:09

    Prost's first title came in '85.

  • Alex Andronov03/01/2009 at 07:43

    PdR is slightly confusing as names go. With Pedro de la Rosa.

  • Alex Andronov03/01/2009 at 09:17

    Gosh as subjects for the daily post go, today's really do take the buscuit.

  • Jackie03/01/2009 at 09:26

    Gosh as subjects for the daily post go, today’s really do take the buscuit.

    Well we've had Sidepodcake, so now we have the Sidepodcookie :)

  • F1Wolf03/01/2009 at 10:15

    Schumi is 40 today, that is the age when people can already be excused for some memory lapses :-)

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 11:07

    PdR is slightly confusing as names go. With Pedro de la Rosa.

    Ah, but you see, Pedro de la Rosa is known as Pedalo round these parts. :)

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 11:13

    I think Schumi should check the stats books before he opens that gaping hole of a mouth of his again, Prost lost the title in ‘83 by 2 points and by 1/2 point in ‘84 but he still went on to win 4 championships.

    Good point, but he had to switch teams before he could win a title.

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 11:29

    Good point, but he had to switch teams before he could win a title.

    Do you think Hamilton would have switched teams if he'd kept missing out on the title? I wonder how loyal he would have been if that had been the case.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 11:33

    Do you think Hamilton would have switched teams if he’d kept missing out on the title? I wonder how loyal he would have been if that had been the case.

    Well, Anthony was looking around a few years back when he had arguments with Ron. So I think switching teams (even now) isn't out of the question.

    But if he hadn't won a title, yeah, he might have begun looking in the direction of Maranello.

  • R.G (Damn, can't remember what my last bracket was)03/01/2009 at 11:44

    Watching Soccer AM this morning, I could swear Eddie Jordan was on it, being interviewed in the streets.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:00

    Gosh as subjects for the daily post go, today’s really do take the buscuit.

    :)

    i just did a scientific experiment in the name of sidepodresearch, and official evolution of the biscuit, goes something like this:

    - open packet

    - select biscuit

    - eat biscuit

    - seal packet

    i shall be applying for government grants starting monday.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 13:01

    - open packet - select biscuit - eat biscuit - seal packet

    How about - repeat step 3? :D

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:03

    I think Schumi should check the stats books before he opens that gaping hole of a mouth of his again

    cheers guys. i figured that might be the case.

    But if he hadn’t won a title, yeah, he might have begun looking in the direction of Maranello.

    i do hope one day we'll get to see how the man copes outside of mclaren.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:03

    How about - repeat step 3?

    i'll give it a go. may require more funding though.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 13:17

    i do hope one day we’ll get to see how the man copes outside of mclaren.

    Lewis will go to Ferrari if and only if McLaren becomes uncompetitive AND Alonso isn't in the other red car. Let's be realistic here.

    i’ll give it a go. may require more funding though.

    Funding to eat? How lucky. :P

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:20

    Lewis will go to Ferrari if and only if McLaren becomes uncompetitive AND Alonso isn’t in the other red car. Let’s be realistic here.

    but his whole career with just one team? how boring :(

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:20

    Funding to eat? How lucky.

    it's not just eating... it's research!

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:24

    a-ha! i spy formula one news:

    http://tinyurl.com/doningtonf1

    gillett says they have planning permission in the bag, but council says they've had complaints from nearby villagers. next thursday is d-day.

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:27

    Watching Soccer AM this morning, I could swear Eddie Jordan was on it, being interviewed in the streets.

    Eddie is a big Coventry fan if that helps. He also used to have season tickets for Chelsea so that he could see a game if he was at his place in London.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 13:28

    but his whole career with just one team? how boring

    Well, Jackie Stewart's done it. Jim Clark too. And they're not exactly boring. :)

    gillett says they have planning permission in the bag, but council says they’ve had complaints from nearby villagers. next thursday is d-day.

    Well, Donington Park the circuit was there long before they moved in. They should've known what was next door coming in.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 13:28

    it’s not just eating… it’s research!

    Suuuure, it's research. Suuure. And how exactly will your research contribute to the society at large? :P

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:29

    Suuuure, it’s research. Suuure. And how exactly will your research contribute to the society at large?

    society is large because people eat biscuits? erm.

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:31

    but his whole career with just one team? how boring

    Erm not to be picky but Jenson Button gets a load of credit round here for loyalty but when there is a suggestion Lewis may be loyal he is boring.

    People just like to pick on Lewis and whatever he does is seen as negative. I had a discussion elsewhere with people who said that unless he left McLaren they would never know if he was really any good. I pointed out that the people concerned all thought Jim Clark was the greatest driver ever and that he only ever drove for Lotus. Strangely the arguments about whether or not they could assess Lewis in only McLarens stopped that day.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:32

    Well, Donington Park the circuit was there long before they moved in. They should’ve known what was next door coming in.

    it wasn't an f1 circuit then though? and there's heck of a lot of redevelopment planned. it's going to be a different animal entirely. it's one thing hosting a formula ford race no-one cares about, but another altogether for f1 races.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:33

    Erm not to be picky but Jenson Button gets a load of credit round here for loyalty but when there is a suggestion Lewis may be loyal he is boring.

    jenson's driven for williams and renault though? plus, he's a liability when it comes to contract negotiations. best if he stays put :)

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:33

    Funding to eat? How lucky.

    Funding to buy more biscuits.

    The problem is v2.0 of the report is more complicated because you need to find a logic step for how often to repeat th eat biscuit step.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:34

    I pointed out that the people concerned all thought Jim Clark was the greatest driver ever and that he only ever drove for Lotus.

    and i agree sort of. however, that was then. we learn so much more about drivers as they move from team-to-team. just look at alonso in '07. we wouldn't have known about those personality traits had he stayed at renault.

    he was a weaker man outside of his comfort zone. maybe lewis will be too?

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:35

    The problem is v2.0 of the report is more complicated because you need to find a logic step for how often to repeat th eat biscuit step.

    true. also, now i'm full up :(

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:35

    Well, Jackie Stewart’s done it. Jim Clark too. And they’re not exactly boring.

    Jackie Stewart started with BRM because Tyrrell did not have an F1 team then. JYS drove for Tyrrell in F3 and Tyrrell did a deal with Matra for them to produce a chassis and engine for 1968 which was JYS's 4th season in F1.

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 13:36

    true. also, now i’m full up

    I'll help.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 13:37

    Erm not to be picky but Jenson Button gets a load of credit round here for loyalty but when there is a suggestion Lewis may be loyal he is boring.

    Jenson's loyalty is different: he's been loyal with a team through VERY tough times. Other drivers would've packed up long ago, but Jenson's soldiered on, trying to improve the team.

    Lewis' is a bit more convenient: he's always had a very fast car underneath him. How will he fare in a slower car? The same criticism was levelled at DC before he moved to RBR.

    it wasn’t an f1 circuit then though? and there’s heck of a lot of redevelopment planned. it’s going to be a different animal entirely. it’s one thing hosting a formula ford race no-one cares about, but another altogether for f1 races.

    F1 was there in 1993, and Tom Wheatcroft never made a secret of his desire to host F1 on a regular basis there.

    Jackie Stewart started with BRM because Tyrrell did not have an F1 team then. JYS drove for Tyrrell in F3 and Tyrrell did a deal with Matra for them to produce a chassis and engine for 1968 which was JYS’s 4th season in F1.

    Oh yeah, forgot about that somehow. Thanks for the reminder.

    That would mean that of all F1 World Champions (excluding Lewis), only Clark has driven for 1 team in his entire stay in F1.

    Christine: 03/01/2009 at 13:36

    true. also, now i’m full up

    I’ll help.

    Hang on, there's no funding for you yet! :P

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:39

    F1 was there in 1993, and Tom Wheatcroft never made a secret of his desire to host F1 on a regular basis there.

    yup, but since then the place has fallen to pieces. i understand that when people living near monza get irate about f1 they're clearly just stupid people. but donington isn't a formula circuit.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:41

    Lewis’ is a bit more convenient: he’s always had a very fast car underneath him. How will he fare in a slower car? The same criticism was levelled at DC before he moved to RBR.

    in this discussion i'm less interested in how he'd fair in a slow car. one day the mclaren could become a slow car again. really, i'm just curious how he'd cope in, say, a fast bmw team.

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:42

    and i agree sort of. however, that was then. we learn so much more about drivers as they move from team-to-team. just look at alonso in ‘07. we wouldn’t have known about those personality traits had he stayed at renault.

    I am not so sure we learned a lot about Alonso. He was well known for blowing a fuse any team a team mate beat him so going in with a really competitive team mate was bound to push him over the edge. I think we probably learned more about Hamilton. imagine if he had gon into McLaren in 2007 with Pedalo or comeone as his team mate and won the championship as he would have been a clear number on by mid-season. It would have been hard to know how good he really was but because Alonsos was the benchmark it took away any doubt.

    When Alonso was at Renault with Fisichella it was always assumed that Fisi had days whem he was really good and that was why he was faster sometimes. What we learned in 2007 is that the opposite is true. Some days Alonso is off the boil and therefore not the consistent performer people had believed. It also showed that the day's Fisi was right on it were in fact days Alonso was not so Fisi's reputation should take a hit as well.

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:44

    That would mean that of all F1 World Champions (excluding Lewis), only Clark has driven for 1 team in his entire stay in F1.

    Maybe some of the early champs like Farina were only with one team. I would guess Ascari only ever drove for Ferrari but I would need to check that.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:45

    It also showed that the day’s Fisi was right on it were in fact days Alonso was not so Fisi’s reputation should take a hit as well.

    it did though didn't it? does fisi have much of a reputation left now. even kovi beat the man, and look at him this year.

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 13:45

    in this discussion i’m less interested in how he’d fair in a slow car. one day the mclaren could become a slow car again. really, i’m just curious how he’d cope in, say, a fast bmw team.

    It makes me think of Piquet who had teams built around him and was shocked at the difference when thrown into Renault.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:47

    It makes me think of Piquet who had teams built around him and was shocked at the difference when thrown into Renault.

    far be it from me to suggest he needs a team to 'rebuild' him :D

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:48

    in this discussion i’m less interested in how he’d fair in a slow car. one day the mclaren could become a slow car again. really, i’m just curious how he’d cope in, say, a fast bmw team.

    I think at some point he will move. Like most McLaren drivers he will get fed up with the number of sponsor days he has to do. I just hope he doesn't turn to the dark side. Lewis in a Ferrari would be wrong. Besides hopefully he has realised how bad Ferrari made kimi look this year by giving him a car wher the rear end was nailed to the ground and the front end had no grip. Lewis would have looked just as bad in that car.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 13:51

    Maybe some of the early champs like Farina were only with one team. I would guess Ascari only ever drove for Ferrari but I would need to check that.

    Hmmm... Farina left Alfa for Ferrari after Alfa withdrew. Ascari left Ferrari for Lancia in 1955. After his death that year, Lancia withdrew and sold their cars to Ferrari.

    me: 03/01/2009 at 13:45

    It also showed that the day’s Fisi was right on it were in fact days Alonso was not so Fisi’s reputation should take a hit as well.

    it did though didn’t it? does fisi have much of a reputation left now. even kovi beat him and look at him this year.

    well, to be fair to Fisi, he is beating Sutil. Not that that says much of anything.

    me: 03/01/2009 at 13:47

    It makes me think of Piquet who had teams built around him and was shocked at the difference when thrown into Renault.

    far be it from me to suggest he needs a team to ‘rebuild’ him

    *cough*Slim buys Honda*cough*

    but... nah. even slim wouldn't build a team around him after this year.

    I think at some point he will move. Like most McLaren drivers he will get fed up with the number of sponsor days he has to do. I just hope he doesn’t turn to the dark side. Lewis in a Ferrari would be wrong. Besides hopefully he has realised how bad Ferrari made kimi look this year by giving him a car wher the rear end was nailed to the ground and the front end had no grip. Lewis would have looked just as bad in that car.

    Well, Alonso hated and despised Ferrari in 2006... and look where he could end up by 2010?

    Lewis, you'll probably like the warmer climate of Maranello. :P

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:51

    I was in Borders the other day and found a copy of Racecar Engineering. So I am going to take an hour and find out what all the fuss is about.

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 13:53

    Hmmm… Farina left Alfa for Ferrari after Alfa withdrew. Ascari left Ferrari for Lancia in 1955. After his death that year, Lancia withdrew and sold their cars to Ferrari.

    I forgot about Ascari going to Lancia.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:55

    I was in Borders the other day and found a copy of Racecar Engineering. So I am going to take an hour and find out what all the fuss is about.

    which issue, out of interest?

    do let christine know your thoughts :)

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:56

    I think at some point he will move. Like most McLaren drivers he will get fed up with the number of sponsor days he has to do.

    i hope so. even if he changes his mind and swiftly returns.

  • me03/01/2009 at 13:58

    *cough*Slim buys Honda*cough*

    :)

    Well, Alonso hated and despised Ferrari in 2006… and look where he could end up by 2010?

    a very good point. although, my impression was that he hated schumi, rather than the team?

    which is why the recent schumacher contract reconsideration rumours for 2010 tie in so nicely with alonso heading to maranello.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 14:05

    a very good point. although, my impression was that he hated schumi, rather than the team?

    Well, he did hate Schumi a bit, but they seemed to be good chaps after that weekend, so I think the anger was more at the team (who have always been accused of being cozy with the FIA) rather than the driver beneficiary.

    which is why the recent schumacher contract reconsideration rumours for 2010 tie in so nicely with alonso heading to maranello.

    And I think that single bit of news was why the Alonso rumors fired up again (along with Pino Allievi's scoop, of course).

  • me03/01/2009 at 14:08

    And I think that single bit of news was why the Alonso rumors fired up again (along with Pino Allievi’s scoop, of course).

    ahh, yes. could have been that way around too.

    question then. how would it affect massa if michael was no longer involved in the team. presumably now he's strong enough and confident enough to be his own man?

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 14:11

    question then. how would it affect massa if michael was no longer involved in the team. presumably now he’s strong enough and confident enough to be his own man?

    I'd think he's strong enough by now, yes. By then, Massa would've spent at least 4, maybe 5 seasons with Kimi as a teammate. That should be enough to make any guy toughen up.

    Not that that would matter against Alonso, of course. As much as Massa has improved, Alonso would still obliterate him on pace.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 14:35

    PdR would’ve been a good fit at Force India. {Journeyer - 50 comments ago}

    I am somewhat dubious about that, much as his experience would do good there. He would have been if he hadn't been so slow in testing. Besides, he said himself after that test that the Force Indias were almost dangerous - I can't see that sort of opinion going down well with the team staff, however true it may be in comparison with the McLaren. I think that at McLaren, as test and reserve driver, he's found his place. It's comfy enough for him and it must be said that in a one-off race situation, he is dependable.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 14:41

    but his whole career with just one team? how boring {me - 35 comments ago}

    Mika Hakkinen spent most of his career with McLaren and I don't think he got bored. Neither did Jim Clark at Lotus or Gilles Villnueve at Ferrari. Fernando Alonso demonstrated in 2007 that sometimes switching teams for the sake of it is not a good idea.

    Not many drivers stay loyal to one team for huge stretches/all of their careers, but those who do tend to get rewarded. And however dull spectators may find the lack of team changing, drivers rarely if ever find success dull.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 14:51

    Not many drivers stay loyal to one team for huge stretches/all of their careers, but those who do tend to get rewarded. And however dull spectators may find the lack of team changing, drivers rarely if ever find success dull.

    I'll have to disagree on last phrase, drivers finding success dull. Many a driver change team, even after success there, for many reasons. Niki Lauda left Ferrari for Brabham because of the politics. Juan Manuel Fangio moved from one team to another to maintain success. Heck, Michael Schumacher left Benetton for Ferrari partly for money, and partly because he felt he had something to prove.

    And loyalty doesn't usually pay in F1. Look at Gilles: he stayed loyal to Ferrari, but ended up getting swindled by Pironi and Italian politics. Look at Coulthard: he stayed at McLaren for 9 seasons, and won 0 titles. Look at Button: ever since committing to Honda after 2005, he's won all of 1 race.

    F1 isn't about loyalty: it's about having the fastest, most reliable car beneath you for as long as possible. And unless the team is built around you (like Stewart's and Schumi's were), a team won't always have the fastest car. Logic then dictates that one will need to switch teams to achieve continued success.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 15:11

    When Alonso was at Renault with Fisichella it was always assumed that Fisi had days whem he was really good and that was why he was faster sometimes. What we learned in 2007 is that the opposite is true. Some days Alonso is off the boil and therefore not the consistent performer people had believed. It also showed that the day’s Fisi was right on it were in fact days Alonso was not so Fisi’s reputation should take a hit as well. {Steven Roy - 17 comments ago}

    The problem with that theory was that the fact Fisi had good days was already demostrated at his previous teams. The big problem at Renault was that Fisi and Alonso had totally different ways of getting round corners. Fisi is a very smooth driver (therefore not inducing much of either over- or understeer) while Fernando is a very aggressive driver (but is aggressive by inducing understeer). Hamilton is aggressive by inducing oversteer.

    In 2005, the first year when Fisi and Alonso were team-mates, the tyres were rock-hard because they had to last the whole race. In fact they were so hard that the Michelins were harder than necessary to last a full race distance (the US GP debacle was due to some other, still unknown, complicating factor that caused much higher wear on the sidewalls than elsewhere). So the primary benefit of smoothness (better tyre management) was lost. Also, the Renault was much more rear-weight-biased than the other cars, meaning it had a greater tendency to oversteer.

    Neutralsteer + oversteer = Oversteer

    Understeer + oversteer = Neutralsteer

    Neutralsteer is faster than oversteer, if all else is equal. Therefore Alonso ended up faster.

    The 2006 rubber was less hard as Michelin and Bridgestone philosophies converged in the tyre war. As this happened, the gap between Fisi and Alonso's performances decreased. However, the Renault was still oversteery, so a driver who induced understeer was still going to have the advantage (albeit a smaller one).

    In 2007, the tyres were harder again. But since Alonso and new team-mate Hamilton were equally aggressive, this didn't matter much. Both of them were equally capable of nursing the tyres (or not as the case may be). It got expressed differently - Hamilton was more likely to puncture his tyres through overwerar while Alonso was more likely to explore a gravel trap due to exceeding the friction ellipse when the tyres took too much. However, Alonso lost the weight bias advantage he'd had at Renault. Now he was in a basically neutral-steering McLaren.

    Understeer + Neutral = Understeer

    Oversteer + Neutral = Oversteer

    This meant that the basic driver/car balance was equal. It would be down to other factors, like compatibility with the team and ability to take disappointments. That was how Hamilton won the McLaren battle. If Fernando had used Fisi's cornering approach at McLaren, he'd probably have won the title. Granted, this would have merely meant that he'd taken a No. 1 rather than a No. 5 to Renault, but it would still have made him a triple champion and perhaps vindicated some of his behaviour.

    However, this does prove three things:

    1) Drivers can't switch driving styles very easily, even when it is plainly to their benefit (Hamilton should bear this in mind if he's tempted to go to Renault in the immediate post-Alonso era)

    2) Sometimes loyalty really does pay off in F1.

    3) Driver reputations can be based on things that say more about the cars they were in than the drivers themselves.

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 15:16

    http://tinyurl.com/franckwillbethere

    Franck's gonna be at Autosport:

    Nicolas Minassian and Franck Montagny will also be available on the Peugeot Sport stand for interviews on Friday 9th and Saturday 10th.

    I may be late to the karting due to stalking duties :)

  • lou03/01/2009 at 15:38

    Erm not to be picky but Jenson Button gets a load of credit round here for loyalty but when there is a suggestion Lewis may be loyal he is boring.

    Erm.. but Lewis' team hasn't produced an awful car over the last few seasons, and hasn't now left the sport...

    Jenson’s loyalty is different: he’s been loyal with a team through VERY tough times. Other drivers would’ve packed up long ago, but Jenson’s soldiered on, trying to improve the team.

    ... yeah, what journeyer said ;).

    jenson’s driven for williams and renault though? plus, he’s a liability when it comes to contract negotiations. best if he stays put

    :-|

  • Jon Waldock03/01/2009 at 15:48

    Understeer + oversteer = Neutralsteer

    its not that simple im afraid, under + over can sometimes equal in 4 wheel drifts, but not usually.

    plus you have to factor in power on/off oversteer/understeer

    and then we get to the whole power on understeer, power off oversteer. thats always fun, anywho what i mean was....its never simple, ever

  • R.G (Damn, can't remember what my last bracket was)03/01/2009 at 15:54

    but his whole career with just one team? how boring

    As a team manager, after one season of them, I've got a driver lined up because I am sure that one of them will be poor. I'm a very impatiant person. And I'm pretty sure by season 3, I'll have a completly different line-up.

    Down to the managers choice as well

  • R.G (Damn, can't remember what my last bracket was)03/01/2009 at 16:07

    Weblog award badges are now available

    http://2008.weblogawards.org/logos/get-your-finalist-logos/

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:15

    Weblog award badges are now available

    cool, voting starts sometime on monday, so we'll get a post ready by then.

    have you seen who we're up against btw? if we come anything but last in the podcast category it'll be a minor miracle. hopefully we'll fair slightly better in the community poll, but that's some massive competition right there.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:22

    For the podcast category:

    EconTalk NPR Planet Money Derb Radio This American Life Pundit Review RadioShire Network NewsThis WEEK in TECH Harry Podcast Mugglecast Sidepodcast Issue Oriented

    Personally, This WEEK in TECH is my pick to win here. I mean, if you guys can beat Leo Laporte, that would be AMAZING.

    For the online community category:

    Strobist Jennifer Marohasy eHarlequin.com Community My Opera Metafilter Community Weblog Twenty something bloggers Sidepodcast SVUfans.net Android Community Michael Jackson Fan Forum

    Whoa... Michael Jackson? Darn. This is a pretty tricky category too: a lot of IT blogs abound - with good, sizeable communities. After all, unlike F1, they have more specialized interests.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:24

    EconTalk, NPR, Planet Money, Derb Radio, This American Life, Pundit Review Radio, Shire Network News, This WEEK in TECH, Harry Podcast Mugglecast, Sidepodcast, Issue Oriented

    Fixed the spacing. This is for the podcast category.

    Strobist, Jennifer Marohasy, eHarlequin.com Community, My Opera, Metafilter Community Weblog, Twenty something bloggers, Sidepodcast, SVUfans.net, Android Community, Michael Jackson Fan Forum

    And for the online community.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:25

    Lastly:

    Keith and Ollie for Best Sports Blog! Both their blogs have been nominated.http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-sports-blog/

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:25

    Keith and Ollie for Best Sports Blog! Both their blogs have been nominated.

    http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-sports-blog/

    Sorry for the double comments. Spacing issues.

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:26

    Personally, This WEEK in TECH is my pick to win here. I mean, if you guys can beat Leo Laporte, that would be AMAZING.

    leo's live channel currently has 2,000 people watching, right this minute. looks like he can get up to 20,000 live viewers at any one time.

    by comparison, we average about... 20 :)

    Whoa… Michael Jackson? Darn. This is a pretty tricky category too: a lot of IT blogs abound - with good, sizeable communities. After all, unlike F1, they have more specialized interests.

    my opera is a massive community built around a web browser. i even used to be part of that community. current membership: 1,960,418.

    how the heck did we even get nominated alongside these guys??

  • R.G (Damn, can't remember what my last bracket was)03/01/2009 at 16:26

    And the eventual voting page

    http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-online-community/

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:27

    And the eventual voting page

    svufans.net doesn't have an rss feed... we have to beat them ;)

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:28

    my opera is a massive community built around a web browser. i even used to be part of that community. current membership: 1,960,418.

    Hard to believe, considering they've just announced Opera's market share stayed stagnant this month, even after IE dropped points to Chrome and Firefox.

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:28

    And the eventual voting page

    the jackson fan forum has:

    1,456 active users.

    12,953 total members.

    holy smokes.

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:29

    Hard to believe, considering they’ve just announced Opera’s market share stayed stagnant this month, even after IE dropped points to Chrome and Firefox.

    true. they don't say how many of those are still active.

    we should add a firefox button to the sidebar :D

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:30

    holy smokes.

    That's right! Well, if anything, at least we're the only F1 site in either category. :D

    we should add a firefox button to the sidebar

    :D

  • R.G (Damn, can't remember what my last bracket was)03/01/2009 at 16:32

    Keith and Ollie for Best Sports Blog! Both their blogs have been nominated.http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-sports-blog/

    Yeah, the nominees were announced on the 29th.

  • R.G (Damn, can't remember what my last bracket was)03/01/2009 at 16:33

    how the heck did we even get nominated alongside these guys??

    As long as we beat those Inuits, I don't care.

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:34

    That’s right! Well, if anything, at least we’re the only F1 site in either category.

    hehe. that's very true. how many f1 fans do you know.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:34

    As long as we beat those Inuits, I don’t care.

    Here we go again!Maybe it's time to update those brackets? Any space is advertising space at this point. :D

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:34

    As long as we beat those Inuits, I don’t care.

    ooh, did they get through? which site were they again?

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:37

    ooh, did they get through? which site were they again?

    http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/

    Here we go again!Maybe it’s time to update those brackets? Any space is advertising space at this point.

    Capital idea

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:37

    ooh, did they get through? which site were they again?

    That would be Jennifer Marohasy.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:40

    R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits): 03/01/2009 at 16:37

    Wow, good start on a slogan! We should think of catchy slogans. Like, 'Yes We Can!' or 'Change You Can Blog On'. I'm sure others can think of MUCH better ones. :D

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:44

    Wow, good start on a slogan! We should think of catchy slogans. Like, ‘Yes We Can!’ or ‘Change You Can Blog On’. I’m sure others can think of MUCH better ones.

    Destroying the environment and the environmenatlists

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:45

    Destroying the environment and the environmenatlists

    In a reference to Formula 1

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:45

    That would be Jennifer Marohasy.

    of all the ones on the list, i think that looks the most beatable.

    david vs. goliath. we're be in the presence of some esteemed competition.

    am gonna subscribe to all the other podcasts and give 'em a listen.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:45

    the environmenatlists

    In refrence to be thrasing them in voting, not killing them

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:46

    Destroying the environment and the environmenatlists

    clarkson would be proud of that :D

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:46

    am gonna subscribe to all the other podcasts and give ‘em a listen.

    Good idea, and then give em bad reviews on thier iTunes page :D

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:47

    Good idea, and then give em bad reviews on thier iTunes page

    nooooo. we don't resort to f1 rejects tactics do we?

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:48

    nooooo. we don’t resort to f1 rejects tactics do we?

    Fair point, maybe thats why they didn't get nominated ;)

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:48

    Good idea

    i am especially going to enjoy listening to the harry potter one. having never read any of the books, or seen any of the films.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:48

    me: 03/01/2009 at 16:47

    Good idea, and then give em bad reviews on thier iTunes page

    nooooo. we don’t resort to f1 rejects tactics do we?

    This is hilarious! Hahaha!

    Goodness, NPR (National Public Radio) is there, for crying out loud! These are titans we're up against.

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:50

    Goodness, NPR (National Public Radio) is there, for crying out loud! These are titans we’re up against.

    leo, npr and this american life are all huge, huge podcasts. massive.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 16:50

    Good idea, and then give em bad reviews on thier iTunes page

    not sure we need to go that far. I mean, is it possible there can be a better podcast than sidepodcast? answer - no. Also, let's not give anyone any reason to think we are a nasty community ;)

  • Jon Waldock03/01/2009 at 16:53

    Anyone whos a bit interested in Dr Who, this afternoon at 5.35pm on BBC1 theres a Dr Who confidential special announcing the new doctor!!

  • me03/01/2009 at 16:53

    Also, let’s not give anyone any reason to think we are a nasty community

    agreed.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:53

    having never read any of the books, or seen any of the films.

    Don't. Overhyped, overrated piece of rubbish that relys on the fan base more than the quality of the books. And the films, I don't want to go there.

    Anyone whos a bit interested in Dr Who, this afternoon at 5.35pm on BBC1 theres a Dr Who confidential special announcing the new doctor!!

    Yay!

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:53

    leo, npr and this american life are all huge, huge podcasts. massive.

    And when we say massive, we mean MASSIVE.

    not sure we need to go that far. I mean, is it possible there can be a better podcast than sidepodcast? answer - no.

    well, while there can be no better F1 podcast than Sidepodcast, there can be other great podcasts in other categories too. it's up to the people to decide. :D

    me: 03/01/2009 at 16:53

    Also, let’s not give anyone any reason to think we are a nasty community

    agreed.

    seconded.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:54

    agreed.

    Indubitdatly.

    I made a mess of that spelling. Indubidly.

    Damn that Homer Simpson.

    I'll just say aye.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 16:58

    Damn. I want to watch FA Cup final, and who's on it.

    Steve bloomin Ryder

    :(

  • Alenyaa03/01/2009 at 16:59

    I think Schumi should check the stats books before he opens that gaping hole of a mouth of his again

    All he said was Hamilton may not have been able to bounce back if he lost the championship twice in such a fashion.

    MAY not...

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 16:59

    R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits): 03/01/2009 at 16:58

    Damn. I want to watch FA Cup final, and who’s on it.

    Steve bloomin Ryder

    Well, he DOES need a job after F1 moved back to the Beeb and left him - again!

  • Andy Taylor03/01/2009 at 16:59

    Hmm, Strobist is an excellent site/community, so you are up against some pretty stiff competition there...

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:00

    MAY not…

    I guess the point he was trying to make was that, well, it was a bit of 'stating the obvious' 2 months after the championship ended. Which Keith also mentioned at F1F.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 17:00

    Hmm, Strobist is an excellent site/community, so you are up against some pretty stiff competition there…

    we better get voting come monday then :D

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:00

    Hmm, Strobist is an excellent site/community, so you are up against some pretty stiff competition there…

    haven't heard of it before. looks kind of cool though.

    had no idea flickr groups could be so popular.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:01

    had no idea flickr groups could be so popular.

    You have no idea... :) For the photogs, flickr is AMAZING.

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:02

    You have no idea… For the photogs, flickr is AMAZING.

    the biggest one we're part of is:

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/f1_racing/

    nothing much happening there though.

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:03

    are there any cool f1 flickr groups we should be a part of?

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 17:05

    Damn. I want to watch FA Cup final, and who’s on it.

    Did I say final, doh, 3rd round. Preston v Liverpool

  • Bassano Clapper03/01/2009 at 17:05

    Weblog award badges are now available

    Ha ha, Finalist Logos

  • lou03/01/2009 at 17:06

    Did I say final, doh, 3rd round. Preston v Liverpool

    put the tv on mute when he speaks/or is on screen?

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 17:07

    put the tv on mute when he speaks/or is on screen?

    My Dad's put it on 'The Who', game doesnt kick off til half past.

    Cheers dad.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:09

    are there any cool f1 flickr groups we should be a part of?

    Not sure, to be honest. I'm not a photog! Hehe. Maybe Lou can help? :)

  • Andy Taylor03/01/2009 at 17:09

    haven’t heard of it before. looks kind of cool though.

    had no idea flickr groups could be so popular.

    I've been reading it for a while now, the guy who runs it is hilarious and really knows his stuff.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 17:11

    Not sure, to be honest. I’m not a photog! Hehe. Maybe Lou can help?

    nah sorry, i'm not a member of any groups on flickr.

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:12

    I’ve been reading it for a while now, the guy who runs it is hilarious and really knows his stuff.

    this is gonna be a disaster :D

    let's pretend we never heard of no awards. never speak such a thing again, ya hear?

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:13

    this is gonna be a disaster let’s pretend we never heard of no awards. never speak such a thing again, ya hear?

    Too late, mate. :P The nomination might attract some new people over in and of itself. :)

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:14

    Too late, mate. The nomination might attract some new people over in and of itself.

    that's very true.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:15

    Is it... Could it be?

    It is!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IEBSoQ8bG4

    You're back on YouTube... at last!

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:16

    You’re back on YouTube… at last!

    how the heck did you find that already? i haven't seen it yet.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:17

    how the heck did you find that already? i haven’t seen it yet.

    It's called a subscription. :D

    Uploaded 16-ish minutes ago, apparently. :)

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 17:18

    It’s called a subscription.

    Uploaded 16-ish minutes ago, apparently.

    Can't get away with nothin'.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:19

    To summarize my reply to her video,

    1. Yes.

    2. Yes.

    3. NO!

    4. No.

    5. I can't imagine a colorful movie ever teaming up with such a bland team. :P

    I'll explain in detail once the others have seen it. :)

    Can’t get away with nothin’.

    Of course not! This is the Internet, you can't get away with nothin'! :P

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 17:20

    You’re back on YouTube… at last!

    Oooh, I don't think I was old enough to remember you on youtube, but you had a big argument correct?

    Love the Toyota, Kung Fu Panda bit ;)

  • lou03/01/2009 at 17:21

    You’re back on YouTube… at last!

    so you have forgiven them then?

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:21

    Oooh, I don’t think I was old enough to remember you on youtube, but you had a big argument correct?

    oh god.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:22

    Oooh, I don’t think I was old enough to remember you on youtube, but you had a big argument correct?

    Yup... it's about them using common video, which was also being used by MotorsTV. Long story...

    Love the Toyota, Kung Fu Panda bit

    Hahaha! I believe they'd have been more receptive to Bibendum, having run on his products before. :P

    lou: 03/01/2009 at 17:21

    You’re back on YouTube… at last!

    so you have forgiven them then?

    Good question!

    me: 03/01/2009 at 17:21

    Oooh, I don’t think I was old enough to remember you on youtube, but you had a big argument correct?

    oh god.

    :D

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 17:22

    Yup… it’s about them using common video, which was also being used by MotorsTV. Long story…

    No, I remember them (or someone) telling me about it

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:25

    so you have forgiven them then?

    i haven't, no. and inside track won't go back on there until they fix their cruddy copyright software. however, for diary entries they do pretty much everything we need. plus i think it's all the wiki supports.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 17:27

    i haven’t, no. and inside track won’t go back on there until they fix their cruddy copyright software. however, for diary entries they do pretty much everything we need. plus i think it’s all the wiki supports.

    ahhh, i see. :D well it's nice to see sidepodcast diaries back.

    I'm sure people in the comments will always remind you to do another one if you forget, Christine ;)

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 17:27

    I’m sure people in the comments will always remind you to do another one if you forget, Christine

    It's not about forgetting, it's about having a) time and b) something to say.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:28

    i haven’t, no. and inside track won’t go back on there until they fix their cruddy copyright software. however, for diary entries they do pretty much everything we need. plus i think it’s all the wiki supports.

    Not sure how YouTube can fix it though. The only way I see this getting resolved is if the company that creates those common clips declares it to be non-copyrighted.

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:28

    It’s not about forgetting, it’s about having a) time and b) something to say.

    the comments can provide one the above.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 17:32

    the comments can provide one the above.

    exactly :) even if it's something about what you have been up to on the site, or what we have been discussing in the comments that week, you never know it may help the community to grow ;)

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:33

    Not sure how YouTube can fix it though. The only way I see this getting resolved is if the company that creates those common clips declares it to be non-copyrighted.

    easily actually. exactly the same way dailymotion does it and they do it really, really well. it's hard to explain, but we have no trouble with them and they're a nice bunch of people you can actually speak to.

    youtube are trying so hard to kiss hollywood's backside (to compete with hulu), they instigated a bunch of very stupid processes that do the opposite of what was intended.

    just like the fia in fact :)

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 17:36

    Hmm, waffling happens.

    Which leads me to shamelessly plug a certain blog that I may have created.

    http://thef1waffler.blogspot.com/

    The only problem is I don't have anything to waffle about...

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:38

    Which leads me to shamelessly plug a certain blog that I may have created.

    nice one r.g. i tried commenting, but nothing happens?

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:39

    easily actually. exactly the same way dailymotion does it and they do it really, really well. it’s hard to explain, but we have no trouble with them and they’re a nice bunch of people you can actually speak to.

    Too bad Dailymotion is nowhere near as popular as YouTube is... :(

    youtube are trying so hard to kiss hollywood’s backside (to compete with hulu), they instigated a bunch of very stupid processes that do the opposite of what was intended.

    To be fair to them, if they don't kiss Hollywood's ass, they get sued to bits, which they can ill-afford. And this is a business, after all.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 17:39

    nice one r.g. i tried commenting, but nothing happens?

    same happened to me

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 17:41

    same happened to me

    My fault, hopefully should work

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:41

    To be fair to them, if they don’t kiss Hollywood’s ass, they get sued to bits, which they can ill-afford. And this is a business, after all.

    i blame google.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:43

    i blame google.

    we can partially blame google, but not fully. had youtube stayed independent, it might've still gotten sued anyway. google's purchase just sped up the process (since google's money enticed the studios), but the studios suing was inevitable, since they didn't know how to react to this new threat.

    had they sued, youtube would probably end up getting shut down ala Napster. and that would be a sad thing to see.

  • Jackie03/01/2009 at 17:45

    It won't let me comment RG :(

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 17:47

    Okay, me thinking it may be skin related.

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:47

    we can partially blame google, but not fully. had youtube stayed independent, it might’ve still gotten sued anyway. google’s purchase just sped up the process (since google’s money enticed the studios), but the studios suing was inevitable, since they didn’t know how to react to this new threat.

    if that's true, why aren't DM getting sued? my guess is because they have a copyright infrigement prevention policy that actually works, and is manned by sensible people who know what they're doing.

    had they sued, youtube would probably end up getting shut down ala Napster. and that would be a sad thing to see.

    possibly, but other video sharing sites are doing just fine. vimeo is great (mostly), blip.tv are wonderful too.

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:48

    Okay, me thinking it may be skin related.

    ahh, welcome to the world of blogging r.g.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 17:51

    ahh, welcome to the world of blogging r.g.

    Cheers

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 17:57

    if that’s true, why aren’t DM getting sued? my guess is because they have a copyright infrigement prevention policy that actually works, and is manned by sensible people who know what they’re doing.

    my guess is because they're nowhere near as famous as YouTube. Even if YouTube had that prevention policy, since more people use it, more people will find a way past it. They'll get sued anyway. And again, there's that money factor. DM doesn't have anywhere near the money Google-YouTube has.

  • me03/01/2009 at 18:00

    And again, there’s that money factor. DM doesn’t have anywhere near the money Google-YouTube has.

    which leads me back to blaming google :)

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 18:03

    which leads me back to blaming google

    I didn't say they're NOT to blame. I just said partially. :D

    Bulk of the blame lies with Hollywood, the way I see it. Had they just been more sensible in handling the dawn of digital media, they wouldn't be in this mess they're in right now.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 18:04

    R.g starting a blog on Blogspot has inspired me to start one up again too. My last one on Wordpress got to the point where it got rather confusing working out how to operate it!

    Any ideas on a name for my new blog? I'm kinda stuck. :P

  • me03/01/2009 at 18:04

    I didn’t say they’re NOT to blame. I just said partially.

    Bulk of the blame lies with Hollywood, the way I see it. Had they just been more sensible in handling the dawn of digital media, they wouldn’t be in this mess they’re in right now.

    on that we're in 110% agreement.

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 18:06

    on that we’re in 110% agreement.

    And on that bombshell, I'm off to bed. See you in the (early) morning, guys.

  • me03/01/2009 at 18:06

    And on that bombshell, I’m off to bed. See you in the (early) morning, guys.

    night sir.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 18:07

    And on that bombshell, I’m off to bed. See you in the (early) morning, guys.

    Night Journeyer

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 18:08

    And on that bombshell, I’m off to bed. See you in the (early) morning, guys.

    Bye bye :)

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 18:08

    Reet. Comments are sorted, but on a pop-up box.

    Night journeyer

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 18:08

    G'night Mr C, Lou, Scott. :D

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 18:09

    G'night R.G. Good luck on yer new blog. :)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 18:15

    Left a comment on your blog R.G ;)

    If I may repeat, can anyone help with a name for my new blog on Blogspot? :)

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 18:18

    Left a comment on your blog R.G

    If I may repeat, can anyone help with a name for my new blog on Blogspot?

    Whats it about, F1 in general?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 18:20

    R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits): 03/01/2009 at 18:18

    Left a comment on your blog R.G If I may repeat, can anyone help with a name for my new blog on Blogspot?

    Whats it about, F1 in general?

    Yeah F1 and other motorsports, plus BATracer/RLB and some other stuff. :P

  • me03/01/2009 at 18:28

    Yeah F1 and other motorsports, plus BATracer/RLB and some other stuff.

    what was wrong with the one you had?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 18:30

    me: 03/01/2009 at 18:28

    Yeah F1 and other motorsports, plus BATracer/RLB and some other stuff.

    what was wrong with the one you had?

    Wordpress seemed to get too complicated for my liking and I was never really able to place stuff where I wanted it.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 18:30

    Yeah F1 and other motorsports, plus BATracer/RLB and some other stuff.

    The Spoiler? Erm, what was your old one and trade it too their?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 18:32

    The Spoiler? Erm, what was your old one and trade it too their?

    My old one was "Formula 1 from a 17-year-old's P.O.V" but I fancy something shorter and catchier :P

  • me03/01/2009 at 18:35

    My old one was “Formula 1 from a 17-year-old’s P.O.V” but I fancy something shorter and catchier

    thewissmeister.blogspot.com

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 18:39

    My old one was “Formula 1 from a 17-year-old’s P.O.V” but I fancy something shorter and catchier

    I'll think about it

  • lou03/01/2009 at 18:41

    thewissmeister.blogspot.com

    :D lol

  • Bassano Clapper03/01/2009 at 18:41

    Anyone whos a bit interested in Dr Who, this afternoon at 5.35pm on BBC1 theres a Dr Who confidential special announcing the new doctor!!

    Am I the only person so not interested in Doctor Who since Tom Baker handed over?

  • me03/01/2009 at 18:45

    Am I the only person so not interested in Doctor Who since Tom Baker handed over?

    umm, i'm not interested since billie left.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 18:46

    umm, i’m not interested since billie left.

    ...

    I'm not saying anything

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 18:48

    umm, i’m not interested since billie left.

    I hope Christine doesn't read that.

    :D

  • me03/01/2009 at 18:48

    some formula one / karting news:

    "Kubica has returned to his roots by going into partnership with the Italian company Birel formed by the Sala family, for which he raced in the European and World Championships in 2000, taking a management role in the team competing in major international karting events."

    http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9507&Itemid=219

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 18:48

    I hope Christine doesn’t read that.

    I had to tell him how to spell it :)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 18:49

    I had to tell him how to spell it

    HAHA! Priceless :D

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 18:49

    I had to tell him how to spell it

    And we are all saved.

  • Alex03/01/2009 at 18:54

    Just to let people know you can now sign up for fantasy racers ready for the new season!!!

  • Bassano Clapper03/01/2009 at 18:55

    Just to let people know you can now sign up for fantasy racers ready for the new season!!!

    Cool, thanks for the info Alex

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 18:57

    Do we have to resign into the sidepodcast private league again?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 18:58

    If I have my teamname as GO TEAM RETARD!, would that be acceptable to read out on the show? :P

    :D

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 18:59

    If I have my teamname as GO TEAM RETARD!, would that be acceptable to read out on the show?

    My guess, no.

    My team looks awfully like I'm cheating, 'Chucking The Rule Book Out'. Remember I'm Gaulty on this.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:00

    My guess, no.

    Yeah, kinda thought so. :P

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 19:04

    Erm, I think I kinda created the private league by accident, whoops.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:05

    R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits): 03/01/2009 at 19:04

    Erm, I think I kinda created the private league by accident, whoops.

    *slow sarcastic clapping*

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:09

    I think I've just thought up of the greatest team name, one that symbolises everything Sidepodcast stands for....

    Dumbo-Flugel'd Cupcake Pandas

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 19:09

    Just to let people know you can now sign up for fantasy racers ready for the new season!!!

    Ooh brilliant! Will do that asap, thanks Alex :)

  • Bassano Clapper03/01/2009 at 19:11

    Dumbo-Flugel’d Cupcake Pandas

    You may be banned under the new aero regs :D

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:11

    You may be banned under the new aero regs

    Kung Fu Honey Badgers?

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 19:11

    Dumbo-Flugel’d Cupcake Pandas

    That's a good one. Feel free to come up with challenging names for us to say but even we have boundaries.

  • Bassano Clapper03/01/2009 at 19:12

    Erm, I think I kinda created the private league by accident, whoops.

    So, are we going with this one or will there be an official team?

    Either way we need League number & password at some point

  • Bassano Clapper03/01/2009 at 19:13

    I'm Sunday Singing Clappers

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:13

    Christine: 03/01/2009 at 19:11

    Dumbo-Flugel’d Cupcake Pandas

    That’s a good one. Feel free to come up with challenging names for us to say but even we have boundaries.

    I can just imagine hearing Mr C collapse laughing when that's read out :D

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 19:14

    If you want it

    league numero is 5

    password is 'franck'

    since that was it last year.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:15

    Ooh, I can't decide what name to go for!

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:15

    I got another one - Megablastic Space Marmots

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:22

    I might combine all 3 and go with Dumbo-Flugel'd Kung Fu Marmots.

  • Bassano Clapper03/01/2009 at 19:23

    I might combine all 3 and go with Dumbo-Flugel’d Kung Fu Marmots.

    Surely a winner

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:23

    Surely a winner

    Then it's settled - Dumbo-Flugel'd Kung Fu Marmots will race to victory this season!

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:25

    Well, they've given us more of a budget for a start - 5m more than last season. Might make things a bit easier.

  • me03/01/2009 at 19:29

    If you want it

    wait a sec. we wanted to set this one up, save all the kerfuffle we had this year. give two if that's cool.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 19:31

    wait a sec. we wanted to set this one up, save all the kerfuffle we had this year. give two if that’s cool.

    K, It was by accident though. I thought it was to resign back into the league.

  • me03/01/2009 at 19:34

    K, It was by accident though. I thought it was to resign back into the league.

    hehe. no worries.

    you did good, just was so much hassle at the end of last year that we're going to donate to the site and stuff. we weren't ready to go live yet.

    give us 10 mins :)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:41

    I also think I've found the name for my new blog - The Daily Dumbo-Flugel. Thoughts? I put it as one in a list.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 19:42

    Works well Scotty, makes an excuse for Christine to say it a bit more ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:43

    Or what about The Daily Downforce? More F1/motorsport related.

  • Lukeh03/01/2009 at 19:46

    Do shout if you find any exciting F1 related news, because it’s a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

    I know, it's horrible! I really want to hear some news about Honda, it's driving me insane.. after all these years and the horrible announcement back in december, and how much of a fan of the team, I really want to see the outfit back even if it'll be under a new guise. It's the new year, Brawn, tell your fans some more info! Even just a weenie ickle bit!

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 19:48

    Or what about The Daily Downforce? More F1/motorsport related.

    I was gonna say: it's unadvisable to use Daily in the title unless that is what it will be (speaking from experience).

    Downforce is great, though. I doubt many people would know what Dumbo-Flugel was. Only proper fans ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:51

    Christine: 03/01/2009 at 19:48

    Or what about The Daily Downforce? More F1/motorsport related.

    I was gonna say: it’s unadvisable to use Daily in the title unless that is what it will be (speaking from experience).

    Downforce is great, though. I doubt many people would know what Dumbo-Flugel was. Only proper fans

    OK I think I'll stick with downforce but I need something to go with it.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 19:52

    I know, it’s horrible! I really want to hear some news about Honda, it’s driving me insane.. after all these years and the horrible announcement back in december, and how much of a fan of the team, I really want to see the outfit back even if it’ll be under a new guise. It’s the new year, Brawn, tell your fans some more info! Even just a weenie ickle bit!

    agreed. :)

  • lou03/01/2009 at 19:54

    I also think I’ve found the name for my new blog - The Daily Dumbo-Flugel. Thoughts? I put it as one in a list.

    what are you planning to cover in your blog Scott? just general f1 news, or are you gonna focus on a team or driver?

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 19:55

    what are you planning to cover in your blog Scott? just general f1 news, or are you gonna focus on a team or driver?

    He said F1/other motorsport and BATracer related stuff

  • Christine03/01/2009 at 19:55

    OK I think I’ll stick with downforce but I need something to go with it.

    Downforce Discussion

    The Downforce Digest

    Downforce Discourse

    Downforce Dialogue

    The Downforce Report

    Just some off the top of my head. Feel free to discard them.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 19:57

    He said F1/other motorsport and BATracer related stuff

    ah right so general stuff. ok :) will have a think :)

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 19:59

    Downforce Dabble

    DownforceIndia?

    More suggestions based of Mrs C

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 19:59

    What about Zero Downforce?

  • Lukeh03/01/2009 at 20:01

    DownforceIndia?

    Genius.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 20:01

    What about Zero Downforce?

    Thats alright

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 20:09

    BrakeBiased?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 20:11

    The First Corner?

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 20:13

    Wall of Champions?

    St. Devoite?

  • Andy Taylor03/01/2009 at 20:31

    How about Sidecogpast? or SideCodPast? or even CideSodPast?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 21:05

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/

    Check me out, I've done an introductory post.

    How do I create sections for my blog posts to go in, if anyone knows?

  • me03/01/2009 at 21:06

    Check me out, I’ve done an introductory post.

    loving these new f1 blogs. everyone needs a blog, keep it up guys.

  • Andy Taylor03/01/2009 at 21:06

    Sidepodspace news:

    NASA is celebrating 5 years of the Mars Rovers mission. Originally intended to work for 90 days, these robotic explorers are still working.

    I've found a link to a blog written by one of the rover drivers (see - sort of on-topic :)). He intends to post entries over the next few days covering the first days of the mission.

    http://marsandme.blogspot.com/

  • me03/01/2009 at 21:06

    loving these new f1 blogs. everyone needs a blog, keep it up guys.

    also, don't forget must comment monday :)

  • me03/01/2009 at 21:08

    How do I create sections for my blog posts to go in, if anyone knows?

    you also need to open up your comments i think. i can't write one without signing in.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 21:08

    you also need to open up your comments i think. i can’t write one without signing in.

    Done :)

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 21:12

    I was in Borders the other day and found a copy of Racecar Engineering. So I am going to take an hour and find out what all the fuss is about.

    which issue, out of interest?

    do let christine know your thoughts

    It was the one with J dampers in it. I consider myself to be reasonably competent technically at least in theory if not practically. However I don't think I learned anything from reading some of the articles in the magazine. Not because I knew it all but because they assume a level of knowledge i don't have. They on more than one occasion refered to articles in previous issues and used that info as the basis of the maths. Well I hadn't seen the previous issue so I struggled to make much sense of it.

    I get the impression from the bits I read that it is not aimed at enthusiastic fans but at people working in junior formulae with an interest in working at a higher level. I will read the rest of it later but based on what I have read so far I see no reason ever to buy another copy.

  • me03/01/2009 at 21:16

    I get the impression from the bits I read that it is not aimed at enthusiastic fans but at people working in junior formulae with an interest in working at a higher level. I will read the rest of it later but based on what I have read so far I see no reason ever to buy another copy.

    oh.

    you're probably right about the target audience, but i'm not that technical and while most non-f1 articles lose me quickly, i can usually find my way around the interesting ones.

    not sure i've read the j-damper issue, but will look it up this week.

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 21:17

    And loyalty doesn’t usually pay in F1. Look at Gilles: he stayed loyal to Ferrari, but ended up getting swindled by Pironi and Italian politics. Look at Coulthard: he stayed at McLaren for 9 seasons, and won 0 titles. Look at Button: ever since committing to Honda after 2005, he’s won all of 1 race.

    Gilles was going to McLaren for 1983 and had said that he wanted to set up his own team which may have been what encouraged Jacques to do the BAR deal and to stick at it so long.

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 21:19

    The 2006 rubber was less hard as Michelin and Bridgestone philosophies converged in the tyre war. As this happened, the gap between Fisi and Alonso’s performances decreased. However, the Renault was still oversteery, so a driver who induced understeer was still going to have the advantage (albeit a smaller one).

    That is a good point because at that time Renault had a ridiculously rear heavy car.

  • Steven Roy03/01/2009 at 21:23

    how the heck did we even get nominated alongside these guys??

    The big question is how did we end up with more nominations than anyone else?

  • me03/01/2009 at 21:26

    The big question is how did we end up with more nominations than anyone else?

    i've no idea.

    i said our '09 season couldn't be better than our '08 one, but heck it's starting off pretty darn well isn't it?

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 22:18

    but… nah. even slim wouldn’t build a team around him after this year. {Journeyer - 203 comments ago}

    That's true. He'd build it round his other golden boy, Bruno Senna, as soon as he could prise him away from the ex-Honda team.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 22:22

    F1 isn’t about loyalty: it’s about having the fastest, most reliable car beneath you for as long as possible. {Journeyer - 191 comments ago}

    You have a good point there.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 22:29

    its not that simple im afraid, under + over can sometimes equal in 4 wheel drifts, but not usually.

    plus you have to factor in power on/off oversteer/understeer

    and then we get to the whole power on understeer, power off oversteer. thats always fun, anywho what i mean was….its never simple, ever {Jon Waldock - 188 comments ago}

    I admit it was a simplification (partly because my comment was long enough already and partly because I was attempting to convey a general concept with the help of the handwavium phrase "if all else is equal"), but a certain amount of understeer counteracted by the same amount of the same category of oversteer will equal neutralsteer if all other factors are removed. And additional complicating factors aside, the key to Alonso mastering the Renault and Fisi not was that the Renault car was biased towards oversteer and Alonso's natural approach counteracted that a lot more than Fisi's.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 22:41

    Did I say final, doh, 3rd round. Preston v Liverpool {R.G.}

    The FA Cup is a bit of a sore point for me. Chesterfield FC (my home team) have, in my opinion, made a complete embarrassment of themselves in how they went through the second round. Sure, Drylesden (or however it's spelt) fielded a player they shouldn't have done. But that was on the fourth attempt at the match. If Chesterfield had made sure it was possible to see through the fog the first time or won the second time, they wouldn't have had to resort to a courtroom to attain the pleasure of being thrashed in the next round. Whatever happened to losing gracefully? :(

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 22:44

    Whatever happened to losing gracefully?

    The fact of the matter is Droylsden played a player who should not have been playing. And the fact he scored both goals.

    But I do feel it was a harsh decision since he played for all the cancelled matches

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 22:51

    What do you guys think of the new banner on my blog? ;)

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 22:58

    The fact of the matter is Droylsden played a player who should not have been playing. And the fact he scored both goals. {R.G. - 2 comments ago}

    This is true. It is also true that Chesterfield could easily have avoided playing the match where the player was fielded when banned by either winning the second match or making sure their floodlights were up to the job in the first match.

    If the appeal had followed the usual two-match (or one-match) round, it wouldn't feel so bad. But hacking away at a result like this is just not on - especially when Droylsden is non-League and Chesterfield is the second division from the bottom of the FA League.

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 23:04

    If the appeal had followed the usual two-match (or one-match) round, it wouldn’t feel so bad. But hacking away at a result like this is just not on - especially when Droylsden is non-League and Chesterfield is the second division from the bottom of the FA League.

    I think an expulsion of a team is indeed incredibly harsh. A fine or no win bonuses from the FA I think will have been sufficent

  • Dank03/01/2009 at 23:14

    Honda rumour ahoy!

    Honda already sold. Announcement this week.

    Take with a pinch of salt... but the person who posted this is supposedly a 'trusted source' and unveiled Honda's '08 livery weeks before anybody else saw it, amongst over things.

  • Lukeh03/01/2009 at 23:15

    :o

    Let's just hope it's true... *fingers crossed*

  • R.G (Vote Sidepodcast, miles better than the Inuits)03/01/2009 at 23:16

    Ooooh. And I was just about to go to bed.

    Actually, I still am. Night all.

  • Lukeh03/01/2009 at 23:18

    Actually, I still am. Night all.

    Goodnight!

  • me03/01/2009 at 23:20

    Take with a pinch of salt… but the person who posted this is supposedly a ‘trusted source’ and unveiled Honda’s ‘08 livery weeks before anybody else saw it, amongst over things.

    i remember that livery story. excellent news. great find dank.

  • me03/01/2009 at 23:21

    Actually, I still am. Night all.

    catch ya tomorrow r.g.

  • Lukeh03/01/2009 at 23:23

    im all excited now about this honda news. After a really rough day in work and finding my wallet missing £5 and in the corner of the cloakroom stashed away, this is a very nice change of events if hopefully true :)

  • me03/01/2009 at 23:24

    im all excited now about this honda news. After a really rough day in work and finding my wallet missing £5 and in the corner of the cloakroom stashed away, this is a very nice change of events if hopefully true

    blimey. nice colleagues.

  • lou03/01/2009 at 23:24

    Honda rumour ahoy!

    i refuse to believe it till it's confirmed. i can't go through hope etc again... Come on Honda confirm something soon so i don't go out of my mind!

  • Lukeh03/01/2009 at 23:25

    blimey. nice colleagues.

    its a shame because half of the guys are amazing people the other half... not so much. but ehh, never mind about that. gonan get that sorted out.

    possible F1 news! ahh!

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 23:29

    Gavin's back from his skiiing holiday :D

  • Dom03/01/2009 at 23:30

    Hey Guys! Am back. How's everyone? :)

  • lou03/01/2009 at 23:30

    Gavin’s back from his skiiing holiday

    cool :) , how do you know?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 23:31

    lou: 03/01/2009 at 23:30

    Gavin’s back from his skiiing holiday

    cool , how do you know?

    The magic of Facebook ;) I'm chatting to him on it right now :P He says skiing was fantastic :P

    Dom: 03/01/2009 at 23:30

    Hey Guys! Am back. How’s everyone?

    Hey Dom, good to see ya back :)

  • lou03/01/2009 at 23:32

    Hey Guys! Am back. How’s everyone?

    Dom! hey! :D i'm good. How was your holiday? fancy joining our BATracer game?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 23:33

    Goddamn this comment moderation! :/

  • Dom03/01/2009 at 23:33

    Gavin’s back from his skiiing holiday

    Haha. That's a bit spooky.

    Don't tell me he's been in Austria too... :)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 23:34

    Dom! hey! i’m good. How was your holiday? fancy joining our BATracer game?

    Ooh yes, I was going to ask you about that Dom.

  • Dom03/01/2009 at 23:35

    Looks like i've got plenty of comments to catch up on... :)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 23:35

    Good news - Gavin said he'd join our BATracer game! :D

  • me03/01/2009 at 23:35

    Looks like i’ve got plenty of comments to catch up on…

    start with batracer :)

  • lou03/01/2009 at 23:36

    Looks like i’ve got plenty of comments to catch up on…

    were you on holiday for the whole Carlos Slim buys Honda rumour/lie? (my days just blend into one atm)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 23:37

    me: 03/01/2009 at 23:35

    Looks like i’ve got plenty of comments to catch up on…

    start with batracer

    If Dom joins, we'd only need one more at least to start since it looks like Toyota is to be abandoned :P

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 23:39

    Gavin has told me he will be going to Toro Rosso alongside Al. :)

  • me03/01/2009 at 23:39

    If Dom joins, we’d only need one more at least to start since it looks like Toyota is to be abandoned

    didn't alex say he was back tomorrow?

  • Dom03/01/2009 at 23:44

    Dom! hey! i’m good. How was your holiday? fancy joining our BATracer game?

    Good thanks. Feels like i've been away for a lot longer then a 10ish days. BATracer sounds good. Should probably work my way through what looks like a massive sidepodweek first. Christmas day is a nice place to start. :)

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 23:45

    Hopefully I will manage to convince my new friend Myyrylainen to be my team-mate, so that would be the "one more". I'm disappointed that putting it on my blog doesn't seem to have increased take-up any.

  • me03/01/2009 at 23:45

    Good thanks. Feels like i’ve been away for a lot longer then a 10ish days. BATracer sounds good. Should probably work my way through what looks like a massive sidepodweek first. Christmas day is a nice place to start.

    all of them? wow, you are a hero.

    we could offer a potted history?

  • Dom03/01/2009 at 23:48

    all of them? wow, you are a hero.

    Things can get very confusing otherwise. Feel free to ignore me if i start commenting on otherwise forgotten posts.

    we could offer a potted history?

    Blimey, there is a lot...

  • Scott Woodwiss03/01/2009 at 23:49

    didn’t alex say he was back tomorrow?

    If he is, I'd tell him to take whichever team needs to be completed since it might take up more time to fill it up.

    That said, if Alianora's friend is going to join and Alex takes one toyota seat that only leaves one more spot left.

  • Dom03/01/2009 at 23:52

    I may start live commenting the week now...

    Yay! Christmas message!

  • lou03/01/2009 at 23:52

    Good thanks. Feels like i’ve been away for a lot longer then a 10ish days. BATracer sounds good.

    yay! so how many spaces are there to fill now, Scott? 2?

  • lou03/01/2009 at 23:53

    I may start live commenting the week now…

    :D good luck with reading all the comments :)

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 23:56

    Good morning!

    That’s true. He’d build it round his other golden boy, Bruno Senna, as soon as he could prise him away from the ex-Honda team.

    He may not need to prise him away from the team; he might decide to just buy the team wholesale!

    As for the buyout news, the forum thread says to expect something between tuesday to thursday.

    were you on holiday for the whole Carlos Slim buys Honda rumour/lie? (my days just blend into one atm)

    I know EXACTLY how you feel. That ends today though; work starts on Monday!

    And - welcome back, Dom!

  • Dom03/01/2009 at 23:59

    And - welcome back, Dom!

    Hey Journeyer. :)

  • Dom04/01/2009 at 00:02

    were you on holiday for the whole Carlos Slim buys Honda rumour/lie? (my days just blend into one atm)

    Erm... i remember his name being mentioned...

    I presume not much else has happened in the F1 world this week?

  • Lukeh04/01/2009 at 00:04

    I presume not much else has happened in the F1 world this week?

    The biggest bit of news was when Rubens became the next Doctor in Dr Who!*

    *in my little fantasy world

  • Journeyer04/01/2009 at 00:06

    Lukeh: 04/01/2009 at 00:04

    I presume not much else has happened in the F1 world this week?

    The biggest bit of news was when Rubens became the next Doctor in Dr Who!*

    *in my little fantasy world

    Hahaha! Mind you, he MAY end up needing a new job! :P

  • Dom04/01/2009 at 00:06

    The biggest bit of news was when Rubens became the next Doctor in Dr Who!*

    Not sure how to reply to that... :P

  • Lukeh04/01/2009 at 00:08

    Hahaha! Mind you, he MAY end up needing a new job!

    *plugs ears*

    lalalalalala! I cant hear youuuu!

  • Dom04/01/2009 at 00:12

    Paskis in the Megamix.

    :o :o

  • Dom04/01/2009 at 00:18

    Looks like I'm requried to make some predictions... :)

  • Scott Woodwiss04/01/2009 at 00:29

    lou: 03/01/2009 at 23:52

    Good thanks. Feels like i’ve been away for a lot longer then a 10ish days. BATracer sounds good.

    yay! so how many spaces are there to fill now, Scott? 2?

    Yeah I guess so. Depends where Dom's going.

  • Dom04/01/2009 at 00:33

    Yeah I guess so. Depends where Dom’s going.

    Err...

    I may need some kind of link or something...

  • lou04/01/2009 at 00:34

    I may need some kind of link or something…

    http://batracer.com/-cj?&D&35645

    password - sidepodcast

  • Scott Woodwiss04/01/2009 at 00:35

    Gavin's got the second seat at Toro Rosso and Alianora's trying to get her friend to join her at Force India, so I would recommend taking the Williams alongside Dan Brunell. Up to of course :)

  • Dom04/01/2009 at 00:38

    Gavin’s got the second seat at Toro Rosso and Alianora’s trying to get her friend to join her at Force India, so I would recommend taking the Williams alongside Dan Brunell. Up to of course

    Sounds good.

    Might need an account first though. :P

  • Scott Woodwiss04/01/2009 at 00:39

    Dom: 04/01/2009 at 00:38

    Gavin’s got the second seat at Toro Rosso and Alianora’s trying to get her friend to join her at Force India, so I would recommend taking the Williams alongside Dan Brunell. Up to of course

    Sounds good.

    Might need an account first though.

    No problem. Free to join so go right ahead :)

  • Scott Woodwiss04/01/2009 at 00:39

    And remember to read the guide I've put up on the Wiki. :)

  • me04/01/2009 at 00:40

    And remember to read the guide I’ve put up on the Wiki.

    again?? we're taking it extra seriously this year though.

    also nice to see vampire in the league too :)

  • Scott Woodwiss04/01/2009 at 00:41

    me: 04/01/2009 at 00:40

    And remember to read the guide I’ve put up on the Wiki.

    again?? we’re taking it extra seriously this year though.

    also nice to see vampire in the league too

    Ahem, I was talking to Dom there. ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss04/01/2009 at 00:44

    Ooh, Gavin took the same two traits and me and Steven. Wonder if he'll be the Vettel of that team ;)

  • Dom04/01/2009 at 01:00

    And remember to read the guide I’ve put up on the Wiki.

    If that can't get me playing this game properly then nothing will... :P

  • Trig04/01/2009 at 02:31

    yay! so how many spaces are there to fill now, Scott? 2?

    Wow - can't believe we haven't started BATracer yet. I honestly thought the SPC game would fill up within minutes. If you're thinking about it but not sure, just dive in, you'll love it!

    Well we’ve had Sidepodcake, so now we have the Sidepodcookie :)

    I wonder what the Sidepodcookie would be? I guess it'd be baked for 300km at 19,000 rpm, and would almost certainly contain traces of nuts. :)

  • me04/01/2009 at 02:39

    I honestly thought the SPC game would fill up within minutes. If you’re thinking about it but not sure, just dive in, you’ll love it!

    it's interesting to watch how quickly the fantasyracers league has filled up by comparison. there seems to be some reticence to joining batracer, and i can sort of understand why.

    i agree though, diving in is the only option.

  • Trig04/01/2009 at 03:07

    there seems to be some reticence to joining batracer, and i can sort of understand why.

    After joining Fantasy Racers and realising how gosh darn simple it is, I totally understand.

    If anyone is put off by the terrible ugliness on either side of the BATracer page (I know I was), it's worth creating a custom stylesheet for the site (I use the 'Stylish' add-on in Firefox), and add this code:

    td[bgcolor="#008837"], td[bgcolor="#ee0000"]{

    display: none;

    }

  • me04/01/2009 at 03:20

    If anyone is put off by the terrible ugliness on either side of the BATracer page (I know I was), it’s worth creating a custom stylesheet for the site (I use the ‘Stylish’ add-on in Firefox), and add this code:

    tip of the week to you sir :)

    i wouldn't normally condone the ripping of adverts completely from a small website, because in our case, without them paying at least part of our hosting costs we wouldn't be able to do this.

    batracer's are so bloomin' off-putting though, i'm gonna make an exception... damn it looks like a normal website afterwards :)

  • Bassano Clapper04/01/2009 at 04:12

    league numero is 5

    password is ‘franck’

    Not working for me

  • me04/01/2009 at 04:17

    Not working for me

    try number 6 with the same password. i confused everybody for no good reason. sowwy.

  • Lukeh04/01/2009 at 10:56

    If anyone is put off by the terrible ugliness on either side of the BATracer page (I know I was), it’s worth creating a custom stylesheet for the site (I use the ‘Stylish’ add-on in Firefox), and add this code:

    Very helpful. Thanks a lot. :)