I hope everyone had a good New Year's Day. We've just heard some fireworks going off, meaning that someone is celebrating exactly 24 hours too late. Bless them. It's been a quiet day in F1, which means there's only one news story to talk about, but we've been filling our time with other things.

  • Apparently, Hakkinen supports Bernie's medal idea. Well, he said it was interesting, and I guess that counts as support, doesn't it?
  • We're still looking for people to join in our Sidepodcast BatRacer game. All the details can be found in the Wiki, thanks to Scott Woodwiss for setting it up and writing a guide. If you want to join in the fun, head over to Batracer with a password of sidepodcast.
  • The Sidepodcast header poll is now closed, and Mark Webber beat Ferrari 21-20 points. That's a close one, just like the '08 championship. Thanks to everyone that voted, and the header will be refreshed later today.

Don't feel constrained by anything I've listed above. The Daily thread is your place to discuss anything on your mind, whether it's related to Formula 1, to other motorsports, or any other topic you feel like. I will see you in the comments.

258 responses

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 00:13

    Evenin' all

    First thing Webber has won in a long, long while. He needs cheering up I spose

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:14

    78 votes is fantastic response for our first poll. we gotta do more of them.

    cheers everyone who voted, democracy at its finest.. even if you did pick the wrong one in the end ;)

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:33

    first batracer run. 1 second a lap slower than lynch.

  • Alenyaa02/01/2009 at 00:42

    And again Aguri are outperforming Honda :-P

  • lou02/01/2009 at 00:43

    And again Aguri are outperforming Honda

    sssshh i was hoping no one would notice ;) also, quali can bring surprises :P

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:44

    And again Aguri are outperforming Honda

    i shaved three tenths off. i could do with a number couple of runs though. don't mind running with the rookie light on either :)

  • lou02/01/2009 at 00:45

    i shaved three tenths off. i could do with a number couple of runs though. don’t mind running with the rookie light on either

    i'd give you advice and say that as christine is in the same car you do actually have more runs, cause she can help with set up... but you know, i'm competitive. :P

  • Alenyaa02/01/2009 at 00:46

    also, quali can bring surprises

    WILL bring surprises :D

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:47

    i’d give you advice and say that as christine is in the same car you do actually have more runs, cause she can help with set up… but you know, i’m competitive.

    ahh-ha.

  • Alenyaa02/01/2009 at 00:47

    Letting Christine start off with your settings would be best, she can only imrpove settings for the both of you in that case.

    That is what we at Honda would have done more successfully, if only... :-P

  • lou02/01/2009 at 00:49

    That is what we at Honda would have done more successfully, if only…

    we are keeping the spirit of honda alive :P i feel like it's a normal friday practice session now, haha :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:50

    we are keeping the spirit of honda alive i feel like it’s a normal friday practice session now, haha

    so is there anything else i need to be doing before the game starts?

  • lou02/01/2009 at 00:52

    so is there anything else i need to be doing before the game starts?

    have you got your qualifying strategy sorted?

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:52

    have you got your qualifying strategy sorted?

    check.

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 00:52

    WILL bring surprises

    I just don't like the fact me and Joe are currently crushing you guys so far in qually ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 00:54

    I'd just like to say that it really doesn't matter who goes first when doing runs in practice and warmup, unless one of you has a setup trait. These traits are Thinker and Charisma. If anyone competing has either one of these, I cannot stress enough how useful it will be to your overall setup for you to run first and to put your experimentation slider to 100. It's the quickest way to get those spot ons.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 00:54

    Forgive me here, but who's James Lynch? :P

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:55

    Forgive me here, but who’s James Lynch?

    do.you.know.anyone?

    he's commented here lots in the past, and he's commented here today.

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:56

    I’d just like to say that it really doesn’t matter who goes first when doing runs in practice and warmup, unless one of you has a setup trait.

    how do i know which traits i selected again? soz.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 00:56

    me: 02/01/2009 at 00:55

    Forgive me here, but who’s James Lynch?

    do.you.know.anyone?

    he’s commented here lots in the past, and he’s commented here today.

    Only the regulars. I tend to forget those who come and go occasionally. :)

  • lou02/01/2009 at 00:57

    check.

    well i think that's all you need to have done ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 00:57

    how do i know which traits i selected again? soz.

    Results > Season Standings > Include Driver Characteristics. ;)

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:58

    Only the regulars. I tend to forget those who come and go occasionally.

    lovely chap, had problems commenting earlier this year, but for once it was his setup rather than wordpress causing issues :)

    i think he might be a batracer expert though, not sure.

  • me02/01/2009 at 00:59

    Results > Season Standings > Include Driver Characteristics.

    damn we have neither :(

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 00:59

    me: 02/01/2009 at 00:58

    Only the regulars. I tend to forget those who come and go occasionally.

    lovely chap, had problems commenting earlier this year, but for once it was his setup rather than wordpress causing issues i think he might be a batracer expert though, not sure.

    Come to think of it, I do remember someone called lynch. Was he just called lynch on here?

  • Joe02/01/2009 at 00:59

    I must say that I'm surprised at the current BMW dominance. I do hope that someone gets the other Ferrari seat to make it better. Also, Scott, I thought you were pretty good at this? As you have Hool Tools, you and Steven Roy should challenge strongly. I'm beginning to get quietly confident at the moment for BMW though. Also, my sole Batracer victory was in a BMW.

  • Alenyaa02/01/2009 at 01:00

    I just don’t like the fact me and Joe are currently crushing you guys so far in qually

    I'm new to this, and Lou barely has any experience, so we're doing just fine. :-P I'm fairly sure our current times are slower than what we can actually achieve :)

    And Lou didn't exactly help by throwing away her 5 runs :p

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:00

    Come to think of it, I do remember someone called lynch. Was he just called lynch on here?

    yeah, he left this comment, which might have helped ya:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/01/bbc-pushing-f1-at-every-opportunity/#comment-169967

    :D

  • Joe02/01/2009 at 01:00

    I obviously meant Kool Tools.....got a laugh out of me anyway.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:01

    me: 02/01/2009 at 00:59

    Results > Season Standings > Include Driver Characteristics.

    damn we have neither

    Never mind, try running your experimentation at 65 or 70. I did so the other day without a setup trait and got the perfect mix of speed and data, it seemed :P

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:01

    And Lou didn’t exactly help by throwing away her 5 runs :p

    i didn't throw them away... i just didn't get the best out of them....

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:02

    i didn’t throw them away… i just didn’t get the best out of them….

    awesome :D

  • Joe02/01/2009 at 01:02

    Alenyaa, Lou may have just 1 season done, but she won a race then....from last.....when it rained : P

    She done very well in the season, especially as she had no team-mate.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:03

    me: 02/01/2009 at 01:00

    Come to think of it, I do remember someone called lynch. Was he just called lynch on here?

    yeah, he left this comment, which might have helped ya:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/01/bbc-pushing-f1-at-every-opportunity/#comment-169967

    Aha! I knew I recognised that name somehow when I thought about it. Couldn't quite pinpoint it though.

    Also, Scott, I thought you were pretty good at this?

    As I've said before, I've done a lot of games but I've only won a handful of races and never won a championship. Closest I've ever got was 4th.

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:03

    Alenyaa, Lou may have just 1 season done, but she won a race then….from last…..when it rained : P

    She done very well in the season, especially as she had no team-mate.

    by the way. teams are all working together right? or can there be a senna / prost relationship?

  • Alenyaa02/01/2009 at 01:05

    i didn’t throw them away… i just didn’t get the best out of them….

    I know, I was just teasing you :)

    She done very well in the season, especially as she had no team-mate.

    I gathered she did ok from what she said about it herself.

    That's why I wanted to join her :)

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:05

    Alenyaa, Lou may have just 1 season done, but she won a race then….from last…..when it rained : P

    She done very well in the season, especially as she had no team-mate.

    haha... yeah no idea how i won that race. You'll be getting Alenyaa's hopes up that i'll be doing better. hopefully luck will be on honda's side ;)

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:05

    by the way. teams are all working together right? or can there be a senna / prost relationship?

    depends how well you wanna do :P

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:05

    by the way. teams are all working together right? or can there be a senna / prost relationship?

    There is an option to "battle/fight" with your teammate instead of working together, but then what fun is fighting? ;)

    I'd leave it ticked since working as a team is better and more logical than an inter-team civil war :P

  • Joe02/01/2009 at 01:05

    There could be, but be ready for a lousy team I guess. Or, as Lou proved, you might not need co-operation at all.

  • Alenyaa02/01/2009 at 01:07

    by the way. teams are all working together right? or can there be a senna / prost relationship?

    Well, we're all friends (for now :-P), so I do think all teammates are working together

    You’ll be getting Alenyaa’s hopes up that i’ll be doing better

    Too late :D

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:07

    I gathered she did ok from what she said about it herself.

    That’s why I wanted to join her </blockquote

    oh goodness... you are yet to enter into the chaos that is my decision making :P Joe is pretty experienced at this, he is one to look out for too... although looking at his time you'd probably have guessed that already.

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:07

    Well, we’re all friends (for now :-P), so I do think all teammates are working together

    good stuff. gonna be fun ride :)

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 01:10

    Well, we’re all friends (for now :-P), so I do think all teammates are working together

    Aye

  • Alenyaa02/01/2009 at 01:11

    good stuff. gonna be fun ride

    It will be. :)

    I want more practice runs...

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:12

    It will be.

    I want more practice runs…

    tis ok.. we get a warm up after quali... and i promise i wont use my laps unproductively this time :P

  • Joe02/01/2009 at 01:15

    If I can cheekily direct you guys to a Toro Rosso tribute I dd a bit ago:

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aMIEeST-pcA

    I messed up at the end with the song length, stupid mistake, but apart from that I'm pleased with it.

  • Alenyaa02/01/2009 at 01:21

    Well, the reason I want more runs is actually because I'm starting to show symptons of addiction :D

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:23

    Alenyaa: 02/01/2009 at 01:21

    Well, the reason I want more runs is actually because I’m starting to show symptons of addiction

    That's what BATracer does to you. One session and you're hooked :P

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:23

    Well, the reason I want more runs is actually because I’m starting to show symptons of addiction

    have to say, it's already way more fun than the last one i participated in.

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:24

    have to say, it’s already way more fun than the last one i participated in.

    it's cause it wasn't a sidepodcast one :P

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:24

    me: 02/01/2009 at 01:23

    Well, the reason I want more runs is actually because I’m starting to show symptons of addiction

    have to say, it’s already way more fun than the last one i participated in.

    I think the main reason for that is we're all doing it as well :P

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:25

    lou: 02/01/2009 at 01:24

    have to say, it’s already way more fun than the last one i participated in.

    it’s cause it wasn’t a sidepodcast one

    ;) :D

  • Journeyer02/01/2009 at 01:25

    lou: 02/01/2009 at 01:24

    have to say, it’s already way more fun than the last one i participated in.

    it’s cause it wasn’t a sidepodcast one

    Sidepodcast events are always more fun! :P

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:29

    Are there any regulars we haven't managed to get yet? From what I can think of:

    Alex Andronov

    Gavin Brown

    Journeyer

    Anyone else? (Yes I am aware Journeyer is in the comments right now :D)

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:30

    Are there any regulars we haven’t managed to get yet? From what I can think of:

    Dom, he is on holiday though..

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:31

    Alex Andronov

    Gavin Brown

    Journeyer

    gavin's on holiday too. i'll ping ollie and alex now though.

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:31

    Anyone else? (Yes I am aware Journeyer is in the comments right now :D)

    i love it :D

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:34

    What about Andy and LPG?

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:36

    What about Andy and LPG?

    sleeping i think. although they would make for a fabulous team.

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:43

    sleeping i think. although they would make for a fabulous team.

    so we still need

    x1 Toro Rosso

    x1 Willliams

    x1 Force India

    x1Ferrari

    x2 Renault

    x2 Toyota

    so that's 8 more people to find.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:45

    so we still need x1 Toro Rosso x1 Willliams x1 Force India x1Ferrari x2 Renault x2 Toyota so that’s 8 more people to find.

    Hmm

    Alex, Gavin, Journeyer, Dom, Andy, LPG - that would be another 6.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:45

    and Ollie too, so that's a possible 7. One more?

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:46

    Alex, Gavin, Journeyer, Dom, Andy, LPG - that would be another 6.

    What about Jordan Allen?

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:46

    and Ollie too, so that’s a possible 7. One more?

    you need all those to start, or do you fancy a full grid? might be nice to leave some open spaces for latecomers? especially seeing as we've not mentioned it on a show yet.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:46

    What about Jordan Allen?

    Yep, that should be our 8th then :P

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 01:47

    Yep, that should be our 8th then

    Assuming the fact they want to do it of course.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:48

    you need all those to start, or do you fancy a full grid? might be nice to leave some open spaces for latecomers? especially seeing as we’ve not mentioned it on a show yet.

    The trouble with that is, once I start the game no-one else can join. A full grid would be nice but if it gets to a point where any more doesn't look possible then I shall look to start.

  • lou02/01/2009 at 01:49

    Assuming the fact they want to do it of course.

    yep ;) But if anyone just watching the comments wants to have a go they are more that welcome :)

  • Journeyer02/01/2009 at 01:50

    yep But if anyone just watching the comments wants to have a go they are more that welcome

    *cough* lurkers *cough*

    As for me, I'll have a look-see. BATracer does take a bit of time, which I probably won't have a lot of starting Monday. But I'll see nonetheless. :D

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 01:53

    *cough* lurkers *cough*

    That was me for a week or so.

    Good times.

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:55

    The trouble with that is, once I start the game no-one else can join. A full grid would be nice but if it gets to a point where any more doesn’t look possible then I shall look to start.

    sorry. didn't realise. that seems like a bit of a flaw, but fair enough.

  • me02/01/2009 at 01:56

    As for me, I’ll have a look-see. BATracer does take a bit of time, which I probably won’t have a lot of starting Monday.

    anything exciting happening?

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 01:57

    sorry. didn’t realise. that seems like a bit of a flaw, but fair enough.

    No need to apologise. :)

  • F1Wolf02/01/2009 at 05:26

    slowly getting back to life after forced flu break - Happy New Year everybody !

  • me02/01/2009 at 05:39

    slowly getting back to life after forced flu break - Happy New Year everybody !

    cheers wolf. read your post a little while ago, i had no idea they used to race on new years day! complete news to me.

    excellent post and recommended reading:

    http://www.f1wolf.com/2009/01/formula-1-was-not-always-quiet-on-new-year.html

  • Trig02/01/2009 at 06:29

    Hi guys,

    Just joined the BATracer game (somehow managed to score a Ferrari drive!) - I'm not a regular poster, but I'm a daily visitor to SPC.

    Good luck all :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 06:38

    Just joined the BATracer game (somehow managed to score a Ferrari drive!) - I’m not a regular poster, but I’m a daily visitor to SPC.

    nice one trig, i've added you to the wiki too:

    http://sidepodcast.wetpaint.com/page/Drivers+and+Teams

    good to have you onboard :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 06:41

    uh-oh. you have kool tools...

  • lou02/01/2009 at 07:03

    uh-oh. you have kool tools…

    'me' have you actually slept yet? :P

  • F1Wolf02/01/2009 at 08:02

    cheers wolf. read your post a little while ago, i had no idea they used to race on new years day! complete news to me.

    The post was not planned. But I recalled yesterday an article in F1Racing sometime last year where some of the drivers were talking about their annual New Year "holidays" in South Africa and the fun the guys used to have down there. That was the first time I heard about New Year F1 racing.

  • Christine02/01/2009 at 10:27

    My god. Batracer is so complicated.

  • Selidor02/01/2009 at 11:15

    uh-oh. you have kool tools…

    Hooray, you have kool tools!

    To reassure Me, and probbably dissapoint Trig, my previous Batracer experience amounts to vaguely knowing it existed. Still, I hope to be more Glock than Piquet Jr ;)

    My god. Batracer is so complicated.

    I dont think its too bad, though Scotts guide makes it much easier!

    Im glad the Webber Header won, even though I voted for one of the Heidfelds. Didnt really like the Ferrari one all that much.

  • Dank02/01/2009 at 11:58

    What is this 'Kool Tools' thing I've seen mentioned? Do they give an advantage or something?

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 12:05

    Dank: 02/01/2009 at 11:58

    What is this ‘Kool Tools’ I’ve seen mentioned? Do they give an advantage or something?

    http://batracer.com/-uk

    ;)

  • Dank02/01/2009 at 12:22

    Think I'll go spend my £10 on some sweets instead :-)

  • Joe02/01/2009 at 13:10

    Hey guys, I got a mate to join the Batracwe game, hes at Renault, he's played some games before. The last season me and him did, we were Honda, we both got poles, think I got 4, he got some wins and we both got quite a few podiums, great seaso. Oh and he has Kool Tools : P

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 13:15

    Well look at that - Chrstine faster than Mr C :D

  • Christine02/01/2009 at 13:19

    Well look at that - Chrstine faster than Mr C

    More by luck than judgement.

  • Trig02/01/2009 at 13:20

    The BATracer Kool Tools are, funnily enough, just cool little tools that make calculations and communications easier within the game.

    Best part for me is being able to see your teammates setup work on the car.

    BATracer seems a bit confusing at first, but soon it won't be confusing enough for you, and those 12 hour waits for the next round will be excruciating :) You'll love it, I promise.

  • me02/01/2009 at 13:21

    Hey guys, I got a mate to join the Batracwe game, hes at Renault, he’s played some games before.

    nice one joe. we remember luke, think we read out some of his emails a long time ago.

    i'm less enthused but his ownership of kool tools though :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 13:22

    Well look at that - Chrstine faster than Mr C

    i saved my setup for her, but forgot to mention it. she beat me with a blind setup from a standing start. i am useless at this game :(

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 13:50

    Typical, the three people with Kool Tools are at the top.

    My aim is to be the best non-Kool person.

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 13:59

    Mr C, did you find the logo?

  • Trig02/01/2009 at 13:59

    I'm sensing an anti Kool Tool movement that has me slightly nervous.

    I'm thinking 'should i blow the first couple of races to ease their concerns?'

    Nahhhh. :)

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 14:01

    I’m thinking ’should i blow the first couple of races to ease their concerns?’

    No, I've never finished higher than 7th anyway

  • me02/01/2009 at 14:05

    Mr C, did you find the logo?

    soz, forgot. i think this is the correct one:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/logo

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 14:12

    soz, forgot. i think this is the correct one:

    Cheers mate.

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 14:52

    Is there a show this Sunday? It says nothing in the schedule, but I'm wondering.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 14:54

    R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller): 02/01/2009 at 14:52

    Is there a show this Sunday? It says nothing in the schedule, but I’m wondering.

    I'm thinking not.

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 14:57

    cheers wolf. read your post a little while ago, i had no idea they used to race on new years day! complete news to me.

    If you were not aware of that you have probably never heard of the Tasman series. Every winter F1 used to de-camp to the antipodes, take out there 3 litre engines and fit 2.5 litre engines and do 4 races in New Zeland and 4 in Australia. Then they went to South Africa for first F1 race of the season on New Year's day in the appropriate years.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasman_Series

  • Christine02/01/2009 at 15:23

    Is there a show this Sunday? It says nothing in the schedule, but I’m wondering.

    No plans at the moment. I think we mentioned in the Awards show that the next one would be the weekend of Autosport International.

  • me02/01/2009 at 15:29

    If you were not aware of that you have probably never heard of the Tasman series. Every winter F1 used to de-camp to the antipodes, take out there 3 litre engines and fit 2.5 litre engines and do 4 races in New Zeland and 4 in Australia. Then they went to South Africa for first F1 race of the season on New Year’s day in the appropriate years.

    nope, but i like the sound of it.

  • me02/01/2009 at 15:29

    No plans at the moment. I think we mentioned in the Awards show that the next one would be the weekend of Autosport International.

    there really isn't a lot of news to talk about is there?

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 16:35

    After many, many attempts I have finally beaten Andy's Top Gear Reliant Robin space shuttle thing score - 415004

  • Bassano Clapper02/01/2009 at 16:38

    Allegedly, Alonso had the choice to go to Ferrari this year but stayed out of loyalty to Renault

    http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090102092549.shtml

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 16:47

    Allegedly, Alonso had the choice to go to Ferrari this year but stayed out of loyalty to Renault

    That is from Diario AS who have been running the same story for months now. It is garbage. Raikkonen already had a contract for 2009 and had an option on his part for 2010 which he exercised by the due date. So possibly Ferrari could have got rid of him but it would have cost them two years of Kimi's salary then Alonso's on top of that. That doesn't sound like a sensible deal to me.

    When Diario AS started running this story their orignal line was that Kimi and Fernando would seap seats. It seems to be beyond their intelligence that there was no reason for Kimi to walk out of Ferrari and drive for Renault. Diario AS is a rag that puts out blind Alonso propoganda with no consideration of reality.

  • Bassano Clapper02/01/2009 at 16:59

    Diario AS is a rag that puts out blind Alonso propoganda with no consideration of reality.

    That and it's a slow news week till some Honda revelation appears

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 17:30

    To quote Alenyaa from the driver chat on BATracer:

    "Christine has changed her name to Mrc Christine. Both their last names are now "Christine".How are we going to tell you apart in times sheets that only feature last names? :P"

  • lou02/01/2009 at 17:32

    “Christine has changed her name to Mrc Christine. Both their last names are now “Christine”.How are we going to tell you apart in times sheets that only feature last names? :P”

    maybe it is part of a plan?:P

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 17:36

    Looking at the team list, maybe nobody does actually like Toyota :D

  • me02/01/2009 at 17:39

    “Christine has changed her name to Mrc Christine. Both their last names are now “Christine”.How are we going to tell you apart in times sheets that only feature last names? :P”

    erm.

  • Christine02/01/2009 at 17:45

    “Christine has changed her name to Mrc Christine. Both their last names are now “Christine”.How are we going to tell you apart in times sheets that only feature last names? :P”

    Which ones are those? I've only seen ones featuring first names or full names.

  • Lynch02/01/2009 at 17:52

    In the above scenario BATRacer puts in the full name! (did a race with my Dad once)

  • Lynch02/01/2009 at 17:53

    Although, I think it should me Mr. & Mrs Me

  • me02/01/2009 at 17:54

    In the above scenario BATRacer puts in the full name! (did a race with my Dad once)

    they think of everything :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 17:58

    Although, I think it should me Mr. & Mrs Me

    that's one step away from mr. men.

    http://www.mrmen.com/uk/

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 18:04

    that’s one step away from mr. men.

    Oh thank god I wasn't the only one thinking that

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 18:21

    Christine: 02/01/2009 at 17:45

    “Christine has changed her name to Mrc Christine. Both their last names are now “Christine”.How are we going to tell you apart in times sheets that only feature last names? :P”

    Which ones are those? I’ve only seen ones featuring first names or full names.

    Look in Car Setup and on the right hand side there'll be a "live timing" with the drivers and times run so far. As you changed your name to Mrs Christine, there are now 2 Christines on that list, so it's confusing to make out which one's which.

  • Christine02/01/2009 at 18:29

    Look in Car Setup and on the right hand side there’ll be a “live timing” with the drivers and times run so far. As you changed your name to Mrs Christine, there are now 2 Christines on that list, so it’s confusing to make out which one’s which.

    Hmm. I changed it because there were two Christine's in the first name. Looks like I can't win.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 18:32

    Christine: 02/01/2009 at 18:29

    Look in Car Setup and on the right hand side there’ll be a “live timing” with the drivers and times run so far. As you changed your name to Mrs Christine, there are now 2 Christines on that list, so it’s confusing to make out which one’s which.

    Hmm. I changed it because there were two Christine’s in the first name. Looks like I can’t win.

    You might have misunderstood. The list of names on the car setup page are surnames. With both yours and Mr C's surnames as Christine it's quite confusing. How it was before was fine because at least I could tell who was who.

  • me02/01/2009 at 18:33

    You might have misunderstood. The list of names on the car setup page are surnames. With both yours and Mr C’s surnames as Christine it’s quite confusing. How it was before was fine because at least I could tell who was who.

    no we understand. we just like it the way it is now.

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 18:34

    nice one joe. we remember luke, think we read out some of his emails a long time ago.

    i’m less enthused but his ownership of kool tools though :)

    I'm watching you in the races now... :P

    Its nice that you remember me though. I'll try and comment more in 2009 rather than just reading/listening me thinks. Can't wait to get this game going!

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 18:36

    “Christine has changed her name to Mrc Christine. Both their last names are now “Christine”.How are we going to tell you apart in times sheets that only feature last names? :P”

    It avoids any domestics about who is performing and who is not.

  • me02/01/2009 at 18:38

    It avoids any domestics about who is performing and who is not.

    hehe. it might be a sneaky way to confuse the opposition :)

  • lou02/01/2009 at 18:40

    hehe. it might be a sneaky way to confuse the opposition

    nah, all i need to know is if Honda are beating the Super Aguris :P

  • me02/01/2009 at 18:41

    Its nice that you remember me though. I’ll try and comment more in 2009 rather than just reading/listening me thinks. Can’t wait to get this game going!

    how could we forget, you said we were better than itv ;)

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 18:41

    hehe. it might be a sneaky way to confuse the opposition

    Maybe only when I'm lapping you ;), and then it doesn't really matter :D

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 18:41

    nah, all i need to know is if Honda are beating the Super Aguris

    Doesn't look like that at the moment ;)

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 18:42

    how could we forget, you said we were better than itv

    Of course you guys are *wink, you are the best *wink*

  • lou02/01/2009 at 18:42

    Doesn’t look like that at the moment

    as you said yesterday, it's only practice :P

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 18:43

    how could we forget, you said we were better than itv ;)

    itv did a good job! (minus thos damn adverts... and DC looking awkward in a tuxedo. burned in my mind forever from that intro) but they had nothing on sidepodcast :D

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 18:44

    itv did a good job! (minus thos damn adverts… and DC looking awkward in a tuxedo. burned in my mind forever from that intro) but they had nothing on sidepodcast

    The McLaren car looked like one from a rubbish online f1 game

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 18:44

    Apparently, Hakkinen supports Bernie’s medal idea. Well, he said it was interesting, and I guess that counts as support, doesn’t it?

    No... just makes him a budding politician...

    Now isn't that FIA position up for grabs soon?....

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 18:53

    lou showed me an article earlier on the BBC that revealed that they're announcing the next doctor tomorrow on BBC1 for Dr Who. Now Ross Brawn said earlier in December that they'd reveal buyers and news in the New Year about honda and a possible announcement, and I'm just gonna put 2 and 2 together here...

    and say that the next Doctor is Rubens Barrichello, awith the BBC buying Honda out and allowing JB and Bruno to drive whilst retaining the experience of barrichello and making him an even bigger hit.

    I'm 99% this will happen. Absolutely.

  • me02/01/2009 at 18:56

    I’m 99% this will happen. Absolutely.

    care for a wager? ;)

  • lou02/01/2009 at 18:58

    and say that the next Doctor is Rubens Barrichello, awith the BBC buying Honda out and allowing JB and Bruno to drive whilst retaining the experience of barrichello and making him an even bigger hit.

    haha :)

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 19:18

    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/Lukehmuse/rubensdr.jpg

    and yes, I was that bored. :)

  • Christine02/01/2009 at 19:20

    and yes, I was that bored.

    That's brilliant :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 19:21

    and yes, I was that bored.

    incredible!

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 19:29

    Rubens saves the world....

    Who will be his greatest adversary...

    Cyberman?...

    Or is that too rude about Michael?...

  • me02/01/2009 at 19:29

    Who will be his greatest adversary…

    Cyberman?…

    Or is that too rude about Michael?…

    :D

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 19:31

    I was thinking of Kimi when you said cybermen based on his interviews, as much as I love the guy... :P

    ive put the pic on drop.io, lou again showed it to me and explained (she's been a great help in me catching back up to speed with things :D)

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 19:34

    I was thinking of Kimi when you said cybermen based on his interviews, as much as I love the guy…

    Ahhh...

    But the world doesn't need saving from Kimi....

    I'd say it's precisely the other way round...

    And I'll take that job so you don't need to worry....

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 19:34

    But the world doesn’t need saving from Kimi….

    I’d say it’s precisely the other way round…

    Very true, if anything the world needs more Kimi ;)

  • Lynch02/01/2009 at 19:36

    Come to think of it, I do remember someone called lynch. Was he just called lynch on here?

    I actually saw it on the FBook group, and I haven't played BATRacer for a while! So, I thought I would give it a punt! Yes, I haven't been seen in "these parts" for a while, but I was here "In the Beginning" back in the day when SPod had their very own little forum! (which I suggest should make a return) ;-)

  • Dank02/01/2009 at 19:37

    Anybody interested in the Dakar rally which begins tomorrow?

    I remember watching the Paris-Dakar rally as a youngster with my old man on Eurosport (early 90s), never really watched it after that.

    It's being run in South America this year after terrorist threats caused the event to be cancelled last year.

  • me02/01/2009 at 19:49

    Anybody interested in the Dakar rally which begins tomorrow?

    just reading the report:

    "Former Formula One drivers Ukyo Katayama (driving a Toyota) and Eliseo Salazar are also tackling the Dakar,"

    hehe :)

    there's no chance it'll be broadcast on the web is there?

  • me02/01/2009 at 19:52

    I actually saw it on the FBook group, and I haven’t played BATRacer for a while! So, I thought I would give it a punt! Yes, I haven’t been seen in “these parts” for a while, but I was here “In the Beginning” back in the day when SPod had their very own little forum! (which I suggest should make a return)

    i remember it well. a forum is an ever popular request, but we really want to concentrate on making live commenting as good as possible because it seems a better way of conversing.

    christine's daily posts are sort of a nod to forum topics, but we know it's not perfect yet.

  • lou02/01/2009 at 19:56

    christine’s daily posts are sort of a nod to forum topics, but we know it’s not perfect yet.

    personally i don't like forums compared to blog comments.

    Christine's daily posts > forum topics :)

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 19:59

    After many, many attempts I have finally beaten Andy’s Top Gear Reliant Robin space shuttle thing score - 415004

    Bah.

    In reply to the speculation, LPG and I don't really want to join in with BATracers. Sorry.

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 20:14

    Well, the reason I want more runs is actually because I’m starting to show symptons of addiction {Alenyaa}

    Well, it is possible to join a public game and a midseason game as well as the private (Sidepodcast) one simultaneously without purchasing Kool Tools. That's what I'm doing.

    Now I need to figure out how to do what lou did last season... ...my mid-season Super Aguri car broke down in Q1 and I've only got one race to retrieve some sort of respectable result from it!

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 20:16

    The trouble with that is, once I start the game no-one else can join. A full grid would be nice but if it gets to a point where any more doesn’t look possible then I shall look to start. {Scott Woodwiss}

    If you wait long enough and you have at least the minimum number of players, it'll start regardless. The maximum sign-in period is two weeks last time I started a private game (over a year ago).

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 20:25

    i remember it well. a forum is an ever popular request, but we really want to concentrate on making live commenting as good as possible because it seems a better way of conversing. {me}

    There is a forum to which my blog is attached that my co-admin and I would be happy to see you use as a forum-style to augment your Sidepodcast conversations. There are a few people already there and it means Christine and "me" don't have to worry about moderating the forum comments (since my co-admin and I have that responsibility).

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 20:32

    Steven: New high score on dropio -

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/picture1-4

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 20:50

    Steven: New high score on dropio -

    Oh good :(

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 20:51

    I have just completed my first 5 laps of BATracer and two things are clear. I need more laps and I am too slow.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 20:55

    Steven Roy: 02/01/2009 at 20:51

    I have just completed my first 5 laps of BATracer and two things are clear. I need more laps and I am too slow.

    Steven, you did load my setup, right? Right?

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 21:04

    Steven, you did load my setup, right? Right?

    I made a setup from your team comments. Can I actually load your set up?

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 21:06

    Oh good

    Sorry. Will give you something to do between BATracer activities :)

  • Dank02/01/2009 at 21:06

    there’s no chance it’ll be broadcast on the web is there?

    Dunno. I hope there is. If someone can find it I would be eternally grateful!

    Oh, and I just shown BATracer to the other-half to see if she was interested: it's a no-goer! I'm not the sales man I once was! :-D

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)02/01/2009 at 21:07

    Steven Roy: 02/01/2009 at 21:04

    Steven, you did load my setup, right? Right?

    I made a setup from your team comments. Can I actually load your set up?

    *sigh* it's something I fear I may have forgotten in the guide. Yes, if your teammate has done their runs, click the load button and then your teammate's name to load their setup. But check they have actually done their runs before you do!

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 21:10

    I will try to remember that in future

  • me02/01/2009 at 21:13

    There are a few people already there and it means Christine and “me” don’t have to worry about moderating the forum comments (since my co-admin and I have that responsibility).

    you're very generous with your webspace alia, thank you. i'm not sure it's quite what we're looking for, just because we're focused on building the live commenting we have. to make it better and faster and stuff, but seriously, you're too kind :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 21:18

    Oh, and I just shown BATracer to the other-half to see if she was interested: it’s a no-goer! I’m not the sales man I once was!

    if i looked at the website that would be my reaction too :)

    having completed 5 laps, i'm now chomping at the bit to get started though. very odd.

    at least you tried mind you.

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 21:21

    A sad tale, shows the importance of a good backup strategy :(

    http://journalspace.com/this_is_the_way_the_world_ends/not_with_a_bang_but_a_whimper.html

  • me02/01/2009 at 21:25

    A sad tale, shows the importance of a good backup strategy

    http://journalspace.com/this_is_the_way_the_world_ends/not_with_a_bang_but_a_whimper.html

    ouch. not heard of them though, were they popular?

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 21:27

    ouch. not heard of them though, were they popular?

    Alexa rating just outside the 100,000 mark. Been around for a good few years as well.

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 21:28

    ouch. not heard of them though, were they popular?

    Dunno, but 6 years means they probably were decent enough.

    Unusual if you ask me, wording seemed odd, style was odd. Very odd.

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 21:46

    Playing about on the Wayback machine I found this:

    "Much blood, sweat, tears and petty little arguments later, we have finally finished editing our very first proper episode. I suppose a little bit of love got thrown in there as well, because I have never edited anything before, and this was really quite a lot of fun."

    So some things remain the same then :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 21:50

    So some things remain the same then

    they sure do. all credit to the girl, it took her two episodes to learn how to edit audio, and i've barely lifted a finger since :)

    why are you looking on wayback btw? all our archives are here for your viewing pleasure:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/01/07/episode-1-season-review-2006-part-1/

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 21:57

    why are you looking on wayback btw?

    It was linked from Alexa, I was having a nose at your ranking :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:01

    It was linked from Alexa, I was having a nose at your ranking

    is it any good?

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 22:02

    is it any good?

    just under 480,000

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:04

    just under 480,000

    that means nothing to me :)

    is that any good?

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 22:20

    New Robin Space Shuttle record 438952 including landing it.

  • littlepurplegoth02/01/2009 at 22:21

    that means nothing to me

    is that any good?

    There are million plus turnover (wahm) businesses that don't do anything near that well :-)

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 22:21

    I think to keep a web based blog/ forum etc going you need to:-

    Have a means of attracting new members...

    Keep it fresh and new...

    Don't be too "cliquey" so newbies stay and participate...

    And remember... you can never please all the people all the time....

    So I reckon you are doing pretty well... but you guys are probably best placed to judge your "hits", your new participators etc etc....

    I reckon two of your biggest assets are, of course, Christine and "me"...

    You come across as a couple who it's nice to drop in and spend some time with...

    Sort of like the popular intelligent girl of the neighbourhood and....

    Her very friendly and enthusiastic....

    Dog....

  • Jackie02/01/2009 at 22:23

    Sort of like the popular intelligent girl of the neighbourhood and….

    Her very friendly and enthusiastic….

    Dog….

    Ouch!

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:23

    There are million plus turnover (wahm) businesses that don’t do anything near that well

    w00t!

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:24

    Sort of like the popular intelligent girl of the neighbourhood and….

    Her very friendly and enthusiastic….

    Dog….

    ahahaha. you're too kind ;)

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 22:25

    that means nothing to me

    is that any good?

    The ranking is based on traffic, so the top sites are the usual suspects = Yahoo, Google, Youtube etc.

    Sidepodcast is down the list at 479 thousand and something.

    Axis of Oversteer are down around a million and a half.

    F1 Rejects is just over the million - 1,085,701

    So I'd say pretty good :)

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 22:26

    w00t!

    Or... woof....

    Ouch!

    Not at all...

    He's terrifically endearing and actually always makes everyone very welcome...

    Every site should have one....

    And I say that as a complete.....Cat.....

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 22:26

    Ouch!

    Better than calling him a nutter who wasn't involved with the podcast.

    *Whistles away

    Thank god I only thought that at the start.

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 22:27

    New Robin Space Shuttle record 438952 including landing it.

    Damn!

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:27

    So I’d say pretty good

    thank you :)

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 22:28

    It's quite good. It means that yours is accessed by Alexa toolbar users slightly more often than the 480,000th site Alexa toolbar users use. It's rather skewed, since last I heard the only version around was for Internet Explorer and a lot of people don't install it due to privacy concerns, but it is a nifty "rough guide" tool if you are sure a significant proportion of your users have Internet Explorer.

    Other F1 sites for comparison:

    Yahoo! 1 (and the Japanese version is 10)

    F1.com 2,400

    F1-Live.com 3,375

    Planet-F1 29,768

    F1 Fanatic 46,370

    Grandprix.com 50,520

    BATRacer 56,218

    Pitpass 101,887

    Blog F1 246,907

    Sportnetwork 253,198

    Home of Sport 455,366

    doctorvee 469,654

    F1 Rejects 1,085,721

    Formula 1 Home 1,320,468

    Sofa F1 7,660,525

    GP Wizard 21,475,267

    The highest-ranking F1 team site is Honda's (173,896) and the highest-ranking driver's is Fernando Alonso's (176,798). The highest-ranking circuit site is the Hungaroring (359,119)

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 22:29

    The highest-ranking circuit site is the Hungaroring (359,119)

    That surprises me.

  • lou02/01/2009 at 22:30

    The highest-ranking F1 team site is Honda’s (173,896) )

    go Honda! I bet that has something to do with honda racing tv....

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 22:31

    That surprises me.

    Same here, the worst track but the highest views?

    Outrage.... nice to see Honda get many visits though.

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 22:32

    For podcast-centric F1 sites:

    BBC's Chequered Flag 46

    podbean 21,847

    Crash.net 22,120

    Formula 1 Blog 799,225

    Formula 1 Pod 1,478,854

    F1 Minute (yes it gets a separate entry) 2,287,540 (but it went up 90,138 places since it was last measured despite this being the off-season)

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 22:33

    The highest-ranking F1 team site is Honda’s (173,896)

    If that's recently I can understand why.... also as they've been so bad that could be the only place you can find stuff out about them...

    and the highest-ranking driver’s is Fernando Alonso’s (176,798).

    Hmmm... I don't go to the Kimster's site enough then!...

    The highest-ranking circuit site is the Hungaroring (359,119)

    WHAT!!!... or is this the "Polish" effect Keith noticed in his polls where he is suddenly inundated with "Poles for Bob"... if you get what I mean....

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:35

    does anyone here actually run this toolbar then. i never have. what makes it useful and why would anyone install it?

  • Alex Andronov02/01/2009 at 22:35

    SofaF1 woof! ;)

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 22:35

    The highest-ranking F1 team site is Honda’s (173,896)

    The amount of times I've been on the BMW one, it shocks me :D

  • lou02/01/2009 at 22:36

    If that’s recently I can understand why…. also as they’ve been so bad that could be the only place you can find stuff out about them…

    Honda's site is/was good i tell you. great photos, great videos. :)

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:37

    The amount of times I’ve been on the BMW one, it shocks me

    but without the toolbar, how would they know you've been there?

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 22:37

    Honda’s site is/was good i tell you. great photos, great videos.

    And JB and Rubens. Who needs more?!

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 22:38

    but without the toolbar, how would they know you’ve been there?

    Fair point.

    Fair point indeed, probs Google woulda been a better option

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:39

    Fair point indeed, probs Google woulda been a better option

    ahh yes, googletrends:

    http://trends.google.com/websites?q=sidepodcast.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

    hmmm.

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 22:41

    And JB and Rubens. Who needs more?!

    Errr....

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 22:43

    ahh yes, googletrends:

    http://trends.google.com/websites?q=sidepodcast.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

    hmmm.

    Is that your own traffic to the site...

    That would be non existent as it's yours?...

  • Steven Roy02/01/2009 at 22:43

    does anyone here actually run this toolbar then. i never have. what makes it useful and why would anyone install it?

    Never heard of it

  • Alex Andronov02/01/2009 at 22:43

    Alexa used to be much more crucial than it is now. But it is still difficult to decide how many people have been to a site. I think it's owned by amazon

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:46

    Is that your own traffic to the site…

    according to google, not very popular :(

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 22:48

    according to google, not very popular

    We could always try one of those heart jerking abandoned dog type ads from TV....

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 22:50

    We could always try one of those heart jerking abandoned dog type ads from TV….

    "Look at these pictures, lost Formula 1 drivers. This is Jenson, owned by Honda before he was cruelly treated and forced out. Please send £3 a month to Sidepodcharity to help these stranded, stuck drivers, and help them back on track."

  • Alex Andronov02/01/2009 at 22:51

    Hi to all bat racers. I am stuck without a computer until Sunday night. So I'm notsure if you'd rather wait or start without me. I am also computerless all of next weekend. I am still trying to work out what crime I commuted which has caused all this plus mama mia but I think it might have been a season of Formula 1!

  • Alex Andronov02/01/2009 at 22:53

    Committed not commuted. I have not yet got the ability to commute sentences sadly.

  • me02/01/2009 at 22:54

    Hi to all bat racers. I am stuck without a computer until Sunday night. So I’m notsure if you’d rather wait or start without me. I am also computerless all of next weekend. I am still trying to work out what crime I commuted which has caused all this plus mama mia but I think it might have been a season of Formula 1!

    you'll be in credit come the start of next season though, eh?

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 22:56

    I am still trying to work out what crime I commuted which has caused all this plus mama mia

    Another popular ruse... to gain popularity...

    Do a sing-a-long...

    Oh... I think you tried that one over Christmas...

    Perhaps a more popular song?... or genre...

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 22:57

    The highest-ranking circuit site is the Hungaroring (359,119)

    That surprises me. {R.G. quoting Alianora La Canta - 4 comments ago}

    Other circuits for comparison:

    Fuji 146,481 (so how did that not get classified as a motorsports site on the "Top Motorsports Sites", then?)

    Spain 315,268 (ditto)

    Silverstone 325,881 (ditto)

    Singapore 394,694

    Monaco 415,559

    Malaysia 532,756

    Spa-Francorchamps 547,041

    Australia 803,362

    Canada 1,241,188

    Bahrain 1,341,755

    Valencia 1,442,181

    Istanbul 12,398,303

    Monza 13,053,526

    Bahrain, Yas Island No Data (which means no Alexa users have visited it since the last time the ranking was updated)

    Shanghai, Nurburing Cannot find Alexa rating (not a good sign, especially when the Sidepodcast entry on them appears before the circuits' official sites in a search for the circuit name)

    Magny-Couers Cannot find Alexa rating (Sidepodcast doesn't appear in searches of it, but my blog is on a search for the circuit name and the official site for it isn't)

    For comparison, Castle Combe (a national-level circuit in the UK) has an Alexa rating of 1,111,023.

  • Alex Andronov02/01/2009 at 22:57

    “Look at these pictures, lost Formula 1 drivers. This is Jenson, owned by Honda before he was cruelly treated and forced out. Please send £3 a month to Sidepodcharity to help these stranded, stuck drivers, and help them back on track.”

    Awesome!

  • Alex Andronov02/01/2009 at 22:58

    you’ll be in credit come the start of next season though, eh?

    I think so :)

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 22:59

    If that’s recently I can understand why…. also as they’ve been so bad that could be the only place you can find stuff out about them… {Lady Snowcat - 22 comments ago}

    It is. I believe they check every week, though I don't know what time of week they do the check. Also, there is some weighting according to the amount of traffic that month, that quarter and (in the case of sites in the top 100,000 last time they measured) that day.

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 23:05

    does anyone here actually run this toolbar then. i never have. what makes it useful and why would anyone install it? {me - 22 comments ago}

    I used to have it, back when I had Internet Explorer. It had shortcuts to lots of useful stuff like the Wayback Machine, plus a search engine that sometimes got results when Yahoo! and Ask.com didn't. The big downside is that it puts a cookie on your computer and collects anonymised data about your searching habits. On the one hand, that's why it can come up with a relatively comprehensive list of what sites are doing compared to each other. However, privacy is something a lot of people like to maintain.

    Also, it only works in Internet Explorer. Once my brother convinced me that Firefox was better, I ditched the Alexa toolbar. On discovering that a Firefox 2 plug-in restored all the shortcuts and several more handy ones without the cookie or the privacy issue, I was even happier. Nobody has done an equivalent for Firefox 3 yet, but I don't think the Alexa toolbar is Firefox-ready either, and I don't miss it enough to find out whether this is still the case.

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 23:06

    SofaF1 woof! {Alex Andronov - 22 comments ago}

    Yes, you're more popular than at least five current F1 circuits' official sites...

  • me02/01/2009 at 23:07

    I used to have it, back when I had Internet Explorer. It had shortcuts to lots of useful stuff like the Wayback Machine, plus a search engine that sometimes got results when Yahoo! and Ask.com didn’t. The big downside is that it puts a cookie on your computer and collects anonymised data about your searching habits. On the one hand, that’s why it can come up with a relatively comprehensive list of what sites are doing compared to each other. However, privacy is something a lot of people like to maintain.

    seems like a bad way to track a site's popularity. on the other hand, i like our ranking. a conundrum.

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 23:07

    Yes, you’re more popular than at least five current F1 circuits…

    Thats a tagline

    "More popular than Monza"

  • me02/01/2009 at 23:07

    “More popular than Monza”

    yeeeees!

  • Lady Snowcat02/01/2009 at 23:08

    It is. I believe they check every week, though I don’t know what time of week they do the check. Also, there is some weighting according to the amount of traffic that month, that quarter and (in the case of sites in the top 100,000 last time they measured) that day.

    That explains it then...

    Jense, Rubens and Bruno are checking it every few mins to see if there is a buyer yet...

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 23:08

    but without the toolbar, how would they know you’ve been there? {me - 20 comments ago}

    And therein lies the weakness of the Alexa method. It doesn't know unless the toolbar cookie is there.

  • me02/01/2009 at 23:09

    And therein lies the weakness of the Alexa method. It doesn’t know unless the toolbar cookie is there.

    so if i started using it. our ranking would go up?

  • lou02/01/2009 at 23:13

    Right, am off to get an early night (yes 11pm is early for me) as i didn't bother sleeping last night as i had so much photography to do, but i'm now shattered. Night all x

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 23:15

    Fair point indeed, probs Google woulda been a better option {R.G. - 24 comments ago}

    Google Trends only checks search terms. Alexa checks site traffic itself. So people searching for terms other than Sidepodcast and deciding to go to Sidepodcast on the strength of their ranking on that topic wouldn't appear. For example, people searching for "Sidepodparty" wouldn't be mentioned, nor would those typing in "good F1 podcast".

    Anyone getting to Sidepodcast by any method other than Google would also be missed, which includes me and probably all other regular Sidepodders, due to the magic of the "Favourites/Bookmarks" feature in browsers. With the possible exception of people with Google toolbars (since I do not have a Google account, I cannot test this).

  • me02/01/2009 at 23:16

    Right, am off to get an early night (yes 11pm is early for me) as i didn’t bother sleeping last night as i had so much photography to do, but i’m now shattered. Night all x

    night lou.

  • R.G (The evil one, think Bernie Ecclestone, but smaller)02/01/2009 at 23:17

    Nite lou

    I'm still reeling watchind Van Barneveld get a nine-darter in the Wold Champs

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 23:19

    on the other hand, i like our ranking. a conundrum. {me - 8 comments ago}

    Not really. It just means people aren't using "Sidepodcast" in Google to find you, but something else. And it probably also means that people tend to like what they see and bookmark you.

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 23:20

    Goodnight, lou.

  • Lukeh02/01/2009 at 23:22

    Right, am off to get an early night (yes 11pm is early for me) as i didn’t bother sleeping last night as i had so much photography to do, but i’m now shattered. Night all x

    nighty night lou :)

    im tempted to go myself, watch a DVD in bed then get up at 6 for work... ohh the joys of Iceland...

    think i will. night to you all :D

  • Andy Taylor02/01/2009 at 23:27

    Just like any statistical method, neither Alexa nor Google will ever be able to provide a completely accurate result, but they do provide an estimate, just like the way they calculate TV viewing figures.

  • R.G (Damn, can't remember what my last bracket was)02/01/2009 at 23:35

    See ya Lukeh

  • me02/01/2009 at 23:35

    think i will. night to you all

    see ya.

  • littlepurplegoth02/01/2009 at 23:47

    Right, am off to get an early night (yes 11pm is early for me) as i didn’t bother sleeping last night as i had so much photography to do, but i’m now shattered.

    And this has nothing to do with your 'statistics' on the other thread?

    OK, so you've gone to sleep already... so I'll leave this for you to ponder in the morning...

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 23:55

    night to you all {Lukeh - 5 comments ago}

    Goodnight, Lukeh!

  • Alianora La Canta02/01/2009 at 23:56

    Just like any statistical method, neither Alexa nor Google will ever be able to provide a completely accurate result, but they do provide an estimate, just like the way they calculate TV viewing figures. {Andy Taylor - 5 comments ago}

    Good point.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 01:17

    Daily post is a bit late methinks :P

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 01:21

    Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P): 03/01/2009 at 01:17

    Daily post is a bit late methinks

    Just a bit, no? :P Well, they did say a few days back that the daily post would be up at an unspecified time during the day (i.e. we can be late and get away with it. MWAHAHA!)

    :D

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 01:24

    Journeyer: 03/01/2009 at 01:21

    Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P): 03/01/2009 at 01:17

    Daily post is a bit late methinks

    Just a bit, no? Well, they did say a few days back that the daily post would be up at an unspecified time during the day (i.e. we can be late and get away with it. MWAHAHA!)

    Ah, Sidepodcast timing. How we love it :D

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 01:36

    I think they've gone to bed OR Mr C was supposed to put the daily post up before he did but fell asleep on the keyboard. God I hope it's the second one.

  • Bassano Clapper03/01/2009 at 01:38

    Maybe he's BATracing

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 01:42

    Bassano Clapper: 03/01/2009 at 01:38

    Maybe he’s BATracing

    :D Brushing up on his skills

  • me03/01/2009 at 01:45

    I think they’ve gone to bed OR Mr C was supposed to put the daily post up before he did but fell asleep on the keyboard. God I hope it’s the second one.

    still up, about to do the batracer post. then a stats post, and then i'll do the daily one.

    i am... somewhat behind.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 01:46

    I've been BATRacing - and can report that the Super Aguri I was given to race in the final race of a mid-season season broke on me when I had dragged it from 22nd (which was itself due to a mechanical failure in Q1) to 9th...

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 01:48

    still up, about to do the batracer post. then a stats post, and then i’ll do the daily one.

    ah sweet! :)

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 01:54

    I don't know why but certain songs I listen to right now give me this visualisation of all of us in Melbourne in the practice session doing everything that would normally happen, like sitting in the car talking to engineers, going out of the pits, pounding round the circuit, etc. Also, because of RLB, everytime I play BATracer I feel like I'm actually there racing at wherever the championship is.

    Letting your mind wander and thinking of things like that is quite nice :P

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 02:06

    Letting your mind wander and thinking of things like that is quite nice

    Daydreaming at night? Must be nightdreaming then. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 02:08

    Daydreaming at night? Must be nightdreaming then.

    :D

  • Journeyer03/01/2009 at 02:10

    I’ve been BATRacing - and can report that the Super Aguri I was given to race in the final race of a mid-season season broke on me when I had dragged it from 22nd (which was itself due to a mechanical failure in Q1) to 9th…

    Oooh, bitter heartbreak. At least it broke down on you when you were 9th, not 8th. That would've been MUCH worse.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 02:14

    Oooh, bitter heartbreak. At least it broke down on you when you were 9th, not 8th. That would’ve been MUCH worse.

    I've had it on occasions in RLB where I've been leading the race and then a driver error saw me DNF. Although never in F1, just in IndyCar/Trinity.

  • Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master extraordinaire :P)03/01/2009 at 02:15

    Speaking of Super Aguri, I did finish 2nd in a mid-season one once with Pole Sitter King and Speed Demon in the pouring rain in Brazil.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 14:30

    Oooh, bitter heartbreak. At least it broke down on you when you were 9th, not 8th. That would’ve been MUCH worse. {Journeyer - 3 comments afo}

    But I was only five seconds behind the Renault in 8th, there were nine laps to go and it turned out to have a pit stop left to do. In fact, I'd have been seventh if I'd not overtaken anyone else because the driver in 5th came out of their pit stop 11th due to finger trouble from a mechanic.

    Still, I did have the satisfaction of beating my team-mate, who despite having been in the Aguri all year, qualified 12th and finished 13th.

  • Alianora La Canta03/01/2009 at 14:30

    Speaking of Super Aguri, I did finish 2nd in a mid-season one once with Pole Sitter King and Speed Demon in the pouring rain in Brazil. {Scott Woodwiss - 2 comments ago}

    Excellent!

  • lou03/01/2009 at 15:17

    And this has nothing to do with your ’statistics’ on the other thread?

    haha, nope. Sadly, if it were that simple. Unfortunately doing 4 AS subjects (in school) and an A2 photography (outside of school), is a hell of a lot of work and although i have been working flat out to get all my work done, sometimes i need more time (hence the staying up all night). plus i have suspicions that my huge total is down to live commenting more than daily chat... :P

  • littlepurplegoth03/01/2009 at 17:33

    At least you now know that you are not *actually* the top top poster.... ;-)

  • lou03/01/2009 at 17:34

    At least you now know that you are not *actually* the top top poster….

    :)

  • me03/01/2009 at 17:36

    At least you now know that you are not *actually* the top top poster….

    oi!

  • littlepurplegoth03/01/2009 at 18:23

    teehee....