We are at the very last day of August now, and for those of us in the UK that means a Bank Holiday. We are still recovering from what was an excellent Belgian GP, though, so I don't imagine we will be up to anything exciting. Here's what we're talking about though:
- Jake Humphrey of the BBC has written up his experiences over the weekend, and it's fair to say they have had quite a profound effect on him. He even says he enjoys hanging out with DC.
- Gavin has written up his Fantasy Racers stats, and it's worth taking a look to see how the game reacted to the madness of the race itself. We also covered the Fantasy Racers updates in last night's Debrief.
- Away from the racing, the interesting news to come out of yesterday was the fact that events at Singapore last year will be investigated. We all pondered whether Piquet's crash hadn't been just a bit too convenient, and now the FIA are going to do the same thing.
That'll do it for now. Let us know what you're up to - whether you have the day off, or have to work. There'll be an edited Debrief and a Digest up later today to keep you entertained. Until then, I'll see you in the comments.
People... if you don't do anything else today, you must watch this seminal Sidepodmoment. The moment when Mr C killed Ringo Starr.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/ringo-is-not-dead-mp4
yay!
Your reaction is absiolutely fantastic :D
classic! i have to rewatch it! :D
And now it's tomorrow! Today!
Hello! I was away for longer than I thought I would be.... I think I may have missed the end of the debrief :P
It's even funnier second time around.
Ahh, I like bank holidays.
ehehe i agree :D hahaha
Woohoo for the legend that is bank holidays!!
Hehehehe. DEAD
I also like: "He wasn't stuffed or nothin'."
Because he hasn't dug himself a big enough hole.
Is that to hide the bodies?
hahaha :D i may or may not have posted the link on twitter :P
such a classic moment :D
I may also... :P
LPG may or may not have posted on Facebook.
hahaha :D
omg!
Fame and fortune are now yours!
she really did! nooooooooooooo
Do we need a #sorrymrc tag too?
so much!
Surely a #sorryringo is required first?
It needs posting on Youtube as well, just to "complete the set".
Lol :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QrvxX-2Cg
yay!
<3 hehehe
Think of it as good publicity.
You're gonna get sued.
oh i don't think i've mentioned yet... while i was in Valencia on Monday i saw something that made me smile. I wish we had had those in England when i was younger... lol :D
it's not the best photo as it was taken on my phone as i walked past... but when i saw it, it made me laugh :)
wow!!
I liked those postman pat ones when I was a kiddie but that is super awesome.
noooo. i didn't mean it.
i meant 'quit'.
Hahaha Renault-tastic
Time for bed I think. Night all.
night Andy.
i think i'm going to head off in a moment too. night all x
Night guys.
You'll feel so guilty when rumours sweep the internet.... It could ruin his career!
Particularly like the tobacco sponsorship - start em young!
#sidepodspace.
I almost forgot. The shuttle is going to dock with the ISS in the next 20 minutes and is just about to start its backflip so that the underside ofthe shuttle can be filmed to check for aby damage to its heat shield tiles.
As usual there are some great pictures of the Earth from the ISS when the signal works. They are over Brisbane just now
We all know Franck found Christine's Franck site because he was searching for his own name on the net. You don't suppose Ringo still does that
Dead men can't surf, Steven.... :D .
umm, as a virtual member of rock band? i think ringo will be okay.
no. the beatles aren't on itunes. they may as well be dead to me ;)
Well, maybe that, but I do think you need a pulse to be a conductor on a Train.... :P .
:D
Every signer or musician sells stacks of records when they die.
I think I need to move house.... Another spider has come into my room... This is beyond a joke now... And when I say spider I mean like the large one I took a photo of a few weeks ago... :(
Snap! I have a giant spider on the bottom shelf of my bookcase. I don't want to take my eyes off it in case it moves and I can't work out where it's gone..... :(
I love's me's poor attempts at backpeddelling after he tries to clarify what he meant by saying "Ringo Starr is .... dead".
Either there is a nationwide spider plague or you two have a teleporting spider.
#sidepodspace
Sometimes I think all this space stuff is too technical. When the shuttle and the ISS were about 400 feet apart some station flight controller alertedeveryone to the fact that the ISS was 1 degree out of its planned alignment. The shuttle is piloted by trained astronauts. They should be abe to cope with a 1 degree change of course.
Have these guys never seen Moonraker?
I wonder if mr C. can pick up an award at the Aussie F1 Rejects website for that insight on the demise of Ringo Starr? All their awards on the "Hall Of Shame" site seem to imply that it is for drivers only....
i do that... Spiders are evil... I had like 4 or 5 before I went away...and now I'm back they seem to have returned... Mum says there weren't any while I was in Spain :(
:( either way I'm not happy.....
So either she is lying or you are hallucinating or the spiders are messing with your mind
mum has delt with each large spider I have come across this year... I am definately not hallucinating, but this is the most amount if spiders we have had in a year for a long time... And by spiders I mean the large ones....
Okay, I called mum and she came in and killed the spider.... I'm now turning off my iPod and going to sleep. Night once again x
Night Lou
I think the big spiders went on a vacation while you where gone. Maybe they went to Spain?
Night lou.
For all you concerned folks, I squashed mine with an Italian Dictionary!
I just watched the video on Jake's blog and Grosjean is innocent. It was Jenson's fault. Also Alguersuari's front right wheel is more off then on before he hits Lewis.
Did you hit it with the page that says chestnut?
Hah, no. I used the shiny sleeve so I can wipe it clean!
I looked up chestnut however, and apparantly the Italians call them castagna....
not long now...
I know the Spanish call them castanetswhich is where the name of those clicky things the dancers use comes from.
Mr C announced on the Debrief that Ringo is dead.
haha! I have caught up on the last few hours already. I meant the itunes bit... :)
God are they that old? Who'd have thought it.
they fill them with spiders?
huntsmen click at you when they are cranky. i knew one called george that was quite chatty
#sidepodspace
The shuttle has docked with the ISS. They are just completing the hard dock and seal between them
a brawn and a grosjean. there's more than one?
Ignore the commentary. Jenson is on the outside of Heikki and then very late backs off slightly to slot in behind him and take the apex. You can see clearly from the external camera that Jenson chops straight across Grosjean.
Also if you pause lewis's onboard you can see that before Tim hits him his right front wheel is hanging off.
I'm loving the Digest :D
am confused. jenson's onboard showed he had a bump.
how did lewis lose a wheel?
Tim hit him and knocked him into the barrier
Tim's front right is hanging off not Lewis;s
It annoys me that no-one would tell you the word is homogenous though!!
i can't see what you're seeing. but i want too.
button gets bumped, no question. right? and then romain's when bounces over tim?
what word was i looking for?
romain's wheel. sorry.
What?
is this the frame:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/jamie-s-wheel-climbimg-lewis-png
If you look from Lewis's onboard and pause it a couple of seconds before Tim hits him then advance and apuse it half a second at a time. You can see at one point Jaime's front right is at a very odd angle. You can't see it at speed
homogenous! I don't remember exactly what you said, the window's too small to let me rewind a sensibly small amount. You were making up new words.
sounds likely. i need you alison!
Absolutely! For all your spider crushing needs....
That looks like it. It seems to flap into view as if it has been hit before it hits Lewis
The word was homologation if it was about 20 minutes into the Debrief.
best i can get:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/jaime-and-lewis-png
That is better than I mangd to find. We need a frame by frame advance on the iplayer
Weil, unless it has something to do with Ringo Starr's detachment, I think "homogenous" is when everything is the same, which should be the case if say, an engine is built by a manufactor for many different F1 teams ?
Any takers for some spare Life V-12 and BRM H-16's engines I have in my garage?
agreed. need higher def too. i can't tell if jaime's wheel hit lewis' rear wheel first? or someone else?
The Life engine is a W12 because a V wasn't complicated enough for them
At normal speed there was no obvious contact with Lewis car but it may have been light contact although normally you see the bump.
Evening all
very interesting... I didn't pick that up in the race and I haven't had a chance to catch a replay yet.
Did jenson blame rg in his interview or say it was just an incident? He has been really aggressive 1st lap all season...
we need kathi with her premiere feed. i just can't see :(
I only noticed it when I played the video on Jake's blog.
I don't remember what he said.
It's not clear at all.
BTW you need to watch the Debrief. 25 minutes in when you ask Christine if Rubens would have ruined his gearbox her expression is priceless.
button responded to grosjean with:
"I can't believe he's blaming me. He hit me, but to be fair I don't really care. It's not really important. I didn't score any points, and that's what's important."
i think button was hit first by the reanult.
Can't find a Jenson interview online but Ross said
"Jenson turned in and it looked like Grosjean came through on him but the stewards are going to look at that now"
i shall now.
(note to self, no more techie questions)
You can see from the outside camera that the two of them collided and that triggered everything else that happened.
Of course maybe Grosjean did it deliberately to create a safety car period to help Alonso's strategy.
:D
I had no idea that she could make her eyes so big
Hehe, forgot I missed the live shows... hope they all went well.
If its not too late to guess can I go with 40.30 as my guess?
#conspiracy: all about the red bull deal :P
Thinking on that though, presumably he knows only what Jenson told him. If there's anyone you're gonna lie to about why you crashed out, it'd be your team boss!!
Whaaat? What's all this? This is a new aspect for me.
#guess
Nick
me neither
It was good apart from Mr C killing Ringo
Looks like she has spotted one of Lou's spiders
I say more techie questions if you get faces like that.....
Ah well, didn't he tell all his fans to give up on him? MrC>ringo anyway!
i didn't mean too!
Eh?
Are MWM drunk?
must be!
If you hit the more button 3 or 4 times you will get a 5 minute embedded video clip of it.
It may be rude. I haven't heard it before, but that would ne my guess.
oh.
I tried to google it. I can't recommend the results I'm afraid.....
Spoonerism?? I think you should probably delete that comment Mr C and those that quote it just in case.
MR C KILLED HEIKKI? AND RINGO? So never getting back on my Christmas card list!
i tried the same and got a knitting pattern. figured it meant legie knew the secrets of the universe...
I think to be fair Heikki was an accident
no, no, no, no. no
no
i didn't.
no.
Ah, don't want to kill the phone, I'll save it for when I get home tomorrow.
Watching live f1 on my phone in a taxi earlier blew my mind though!
We have video evidence
That must be interesting
done. clearly i'm mixing with the wrong sorts.
apart from that.
i didn't kill heikki.
You said you chopped his head off
i did?
amy we love youuuuuuuuuuuuu.
Someone said you did. I didn't really catch since I was still in shock about Ringo's death and Paul McCartney's death in 1966 which no-one had ever told me about
:D
video of piquet's crash in singapore
just a reminder.
It was amazing, I forgot my headphones though, but I still felt I was living in the future!
Now I just need a hoverboard!
surely killing hk was bigger news than some musical man?
morning, everyone.
piquet's the talk of the town today. had anyone mentioned pizzonia's tweet?
not that i know of?
Pizzonia's tweet
E a bomba na F1 começa a estourar.. Aguardem pq isso, é apenas o começo..
Translated by a Portuguese on another F1 forum,
A bomb in F1 starts to blow.. just wait, because this is just the beginning
It does look unusual. Most people who crash on street circuits understeer off. It is unusaul to see someone power oversteer into the wall. But then again it was Piquet
Ringo was musical? Who knew?
i think he's right. the bodies are about to be exhumed.
No
Flav's face just before it does look suspicious.... Like he's looking around waiting for something to happen, wondering why it hasn't perhaps?
Pk vs flav.. Pk ftw!
Looks like the Brazilian mafia have discussed it already
we've seen nothing like this before, quite honestly. if this is true, this might be even more damaging to Renault than Spygate was to McLaren.
Piquet senior has never been known for his restraint. If he starts something he will just keep escalating
unless they can prove Piquet turnd the wheel to hit the wall i don't know what they can do.
That was my thought but that is only because we are looking for clues. A lot of people on the pit wall look around themselves like that.
If this is true, way to ruin the end to this season. I do agree that this needs to be investigated, but this is something we didn't want to happen now.
That said, I was near this accident (although not in my line of sight). It will certainly influence how I viewed that magical race weekend.
Yeah I know. I love how NO-ONE's come out and said it's totally ridiculous. If it was shown to be true, you wouldn't be shocked either Flav or Fernando were involved in it.....
Because everybody lies to the stewards 50 times a day?
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/04/06/would-you-sponsor-the-new-us-f1-team/
Carlos Ghosn will just dump the team and claim the moral highground.
Since we have had a conspiracy theory loaded day how about this. Piquet drove for Bernie and they were quite close. There have been rumours of Flav replacing Bernie. If Piquet pulls off this stunt CVC will not touch Flav with a barge pole.
i will be home in 4.5 hours and watching the replay for the truth
I certainly wouldn;t be shocked at Flav doing it nut I can't see someone like Pat Symonds having anything to do with it and it would be hard to do it without alerting him
Indeed. But why would Bernie destroy Flav, who's a good friend of his as well?
they also need a new sponsor... if renault leave and flav is under a cloud, where do they go?
Pk gp? Aren't prodive just down the road?
Flav isn't the most strategic mind in the pitwall. Someone else would've had to figure out that a Piquet crash would help Alonso to win. Who's the accomplice?
Too bad the camera is so far away and they did not zoom into PK. I would have liked to see him come out of the turn and on to the straight. I would still like to think it was some sort of puncture to the inside tyre that got him to spin out. How useless a driver do you have to be if you are only good to be crashing into wallls?
Maybe he thinks Flav is getting too big for his boots
Prodrive are in Banbury
i kill him ;)
There has to be onboard footage from him somewhere.
*didn't.
Who was on the grassy knoll?
I haven't got to that bit yet....
Is it for the greater good?
symmonds?
At last a confession
Indeed. I watched the replay. What seemed to have happened was that as PK was turning in to the corner, he seemed to have come in too hot. He already broke his rear wing by hitting the outside wall. He continued spinning to wreck at the inside wall.
I just can't see him getting involved in that
nooooooooo
i missed the important word.
would he do it? i agree with steven - i don't see symonds wanting to play a part in this.
true. but you can't make a renault radio call without him knowing.
that must be seriously covert.
DUCK (Heikki)
Exactly.
who was nelson's engineer at the time. who told him to push?
But to tell the driver to spear a concrete wall? I mean, an accident is one thing but maybe the car is a little bit too bulletproof for a Team owner to come up with this stuff to win races. I mean what if PK got seriously injured or worse (Meet Mr. C in a dark alley, for example?)
I don't think Dodgins named anyone.
a good point. would you agree to crash for the good of the team?
if you're desperate to keep your seat, perhaps you would?
but why would he be desperate. he know where the bodies are buried.
If I was him and I was going to crash deliberately it would have been a slowis nose first accident like Schumacher's Monaco parking incident and not power steering into a wall so that I ended up facing the oncoming traffic
his 2009 race engineers are: Phil Charles and Ayao Komatsu.
not sure if they were his 2008 engineers as well.
Booooo! Error with your Digest replay.
It gets to 65 and a half minutes then it dies never to be seen again :(
Sure thing, Achmed* ! :P ..
*That puppet from Jeff Dunham's show...
The best way to keep your seat is to get evidence that Flav has asked you, refuse to do it (preferably also on the record!) then use the evidence to blackmail Flav into keeping you.
soz. that happens to amy too. we put it on dropio for that very reaosn:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/live-feeling-the-force-mp4
pls do yell that fails too.
cheers sir. anyone have the '08 dvd. does it give any more info?
Indeed. Unless... Flav knew something about PK that they did not want revealed at the time, but they don't care about this now?
I love the argument with Christine about Franck. I missed that at the time.
Franck raced a CART car last year but he also did a one day test in an IRL car.
i have it. on first recall, it doesn't have any additional info (although it notes the spin on the warmup lap). i'll watch it again later to recheck.
Plus, y'kno this way doesn't involve match fixing, fraud, risking your life.... Piquet really doesn't have the smarts does he?
didn't realise, soz.
I am at 78 minutes just now.
Doesn't Alan Permane do some of the Renault radio calls?
Are you telling me that PK can not even crash properly, Steven ==> How hopeless is that? :D ?
he did kovi's, but i can't for the life of me remember hearing him talk to piquet?
Okay how odd. I've got the drop.io one to work for me now though so no matter.
Thanks Mr C.
With all the kids Piquet senior must have around the world he must be really disappointed at the only one that became a racing driver
No problem
If you had to deliberately had to crash a car how would you do it.
as slowly as possible.
Not on a straight like that.
i'd spin under braking at the end of a short straight so I could be clearly seen but be in the middle of the track. i guess telemetry would give the game away though
It'd look staged though! Too slow looks avoidable and you could easily spin it and miss the barrier entirely.
he got promoted to chief race engineer. all race engineers report to him.
how many DOES he have?
stall in the middle of the track was what i meant to say. no hitting things at all.
wasn't that how rascasse-gate became fishy in the first place? everyone said he needed to have crashed it to be believable.
which is what (allegedly) happened.
I am not sure but he used to live on his yacht with a lot of women and him. i think there must have been a revolving door on that yacht
very good point.
It was because he did it so slowly that he didn't reach the barrier he was supposed to crash into.
alia's point 4 on bf1 is also worth considering:
"why didn’t that driver anonymously send the FIA word of the problem? Not only would the source not be revealed under the terms of a 2003 rule designed to encourage the reporting of technical infringements, but the driver would be £1m richer…"
anyhow. i love this debate, but i'm exhausted. night internets.
(it wasn't me)
very interesting topic to discuss, indeed.
night, mr c. am off to the outside world too. later, y'all. :D
Night Mr C
If you are crashing deliberately, you need to create enough carnage to 100% garantee a saftey car, and also avoid any suggestion of leaving your car in a dangerous place unnecessarily. I can't see a gentle slow speed crash being a realistic option...
Night!
This is what happens when you go to work - you miss controversy.
I love this one, although it just does not ring true to me.
Well, keep winning and I do not have to dream up those ideas, Steven....
But tapping the wall sideways like they do at the Indy 500 or at Champion's Wall at Montreal is a reasonablly safe way of creaming a car at speed....The wall acts as a brake and you go sliding down the wall.
According to http://www.formula1.com/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame/181/ Piquet had several children with a number of women and according to http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1465456/bio he had 7
It doesn't need to be very slow. You just have to lock a brake and go nose first into a wall
May I just say, that's a lot. :O I guess his racing genes got divvied up between the 7 of them...
Anyway, the outside beckons.
Makes a lot more sense than the actual accident. It was something you would never do deliberately but it is also something that doesn't look like a normal accident.
Ouch. Sounds painful. Massive sudden stop as you it a wall.
Nah. you slip on the marbles at turn 13 in Montreal and you point the car straight as teh whole right side gets ripped apart from Champions Wall and the Outside Pit Straigfht wall in Montreal. It is only 4.7 G around there and you have the length of the pit straight to slow down and leave car bits all over the place... Do it right and your teammate wins a red-flag shortened race.
Err, how did Champions Wall's get its name again Steven? Did not Schumacher, Villeneuve, Hill, and Hakkinen (plus) Zonta all creme the same part of the track that one Canadian Grand Prix? Pretty sure it was either marbles or a miscalculation that had all these drivers into the Crossbars of the Quebec flag of that "elcome to Quebec"sign that was classic...
Yup - 1999.
But Hakkinen didn't crash into the wall - he won.
They all slid off nose or side first. Piquet would have spun right round and hit the wall on the other side of the track
Now that is how you crash a F1, World Driver Champion approved.
Did I get everyone else ==> Hill, Villleneuve and Schumacher especially?
Yup.
My ride is taking long. Grrr.
Here's my thought - could it be that Piquet was just planning to crash lightly, but made a mistake and ended up having a bigger crash instead?
Like I said,
a) PK is so useless he can not even crash properly.
b) Massive suddens stops due to nose pointed at Wall is painful. Better to have the nose parallel to teh wall and slide down the side of the wall until you come to a stop. It will destroy the wheels, tyres, sidepod and suspension on teh side closer toteh wall and would for sure being out a yellow flag. And ther is less risk of injury to the driver in the crash.
You mean he panicked and hit the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal? Yeah, sounds like something PK would do...
Something like that, yeah. It's plausible, right?
It does sound a little bit PK-ish to me... :P .
i can smell donuts but no one near me has one. Now i am thinking i will have to make a pit stop on the way home
Hello Sidepodcast-land
I have been a fan for well over a year of your excellent podcast and you are now my outlet for my thoughts about this weeks race. I will start with my bias that I am in fact a BMW fan (for a few more months). My comment is about Kimi's off track excursion today at the start of the race. I do believe that Kimi had the fastest car today and that no matter what happened that he would have won the race. However, I feel that when he went off track he was behind at least 1 car that he was in front of when he came back on track. To me he received an advantage of no traffic off course and gained an advantage, similar to cutting a chicane. I think at a minimum he should have been instructed to give back the positions immediately. I believe that there was so much action and so many cars involved that they likely couldn't have told who should have been behind who. In the absence of a clear vision of who he cam in front of, that he should have been given a drive through penalty. I will admit that I watched the race on my DVR and have not read any of the comments about this topic, if there are any. If this incident has already received great debate and I am wrong I am sure that I will learn why tomorrow. But for now it seems that he benefited by going off-line. That simple.
I hope that you all enjoyed the race.
Mike Graham
NJ-USA
Hey Mike, good thoughts.
I actually believe Kimi did not have the fastest car - that was Fisi, and but for the safety car restart, I think the first two places would have been reversed.
There was a lot of chat about Kimi's first corner during and after the race. Personally, I agree with you. Kimi's drive off the outside of La Source looked deliberate to me, and it seemed he got a very good run down to Au Rouge because of it. I don't know how the stewards can penalise some incidents, and just ignore things like this.
Mmmmmmm donuts. (well someone had to say it)
Morning all :D
Hey Mike, welcome to Sidepodcast. I agree Kimi gained an advantage solely because by running wide he had a free run down to Eau Rouge on KERS (which is the same reason why nobody could overtake him) and should have got a penalty.
How was the coverage on Speed? Do you enjoy it or do you think it could be improved?
Thanks for the link in the show notes ;)
Morning everyone! Hope everyone is well this morning :)
I just had a donut so I am brilliant :D
mmmmmmmmm.... donuts....
So I haven't caught up with the comments and everything yet but how did everyone supporting their assigned drivers go?
Morning dude :)
Heikki came 6th. What do you mean he was Kathis?
You did have a go at looking after him for a while :)
its really hard to support someone who is never on TV, ever. I challenge you to find any footage of Nico racing in 2009. It does not exist.
Morning all.
I had Kubica who came 4th :) He's never one the tv either....
I also have to confess to being very excited when Vettel got past him for 3rd place. So I guess I was a bit of a duff supporter. I tried though!
Nico doesn't race. He just tours around showing off his lovely golden hair...
But seriously, how is this guy the real deal? So he finishes fourth, fifth or sixth every race. Big deal - after Force India's display this weekend he doesn't look so good to me now. Let him join McLaren and watch the sparks fly next year!
Trill was great for about half a lap, then got caught behind someone even slower than him (Badoer) and finally retired.
Better than my normal supported driver though, who only made 3 corners!
Morning! How is the NZ guidebook?
I have been asking every single person I know who has been to Europe "where would you go if you only had 3 weeks to see as much as possible"
I believe I may be overplanning things a little far in advance :D
My fingers just dont work on this laptop keyboard - I completly mucked that last comment up
So it's grown to 3 weeks now? Given 12 months it will be 6 weeks
Hahaha yeah. There's waaaay too much in it. It's tempting me to go have an exploratory trip then apply to come back with a holiday and work visa and stay a bit longer.
has to be 3 weeks to fit in Monza as well ;)
speaking as a (not biased at all) South Island native, I'll let you know that the South Island is waaaay better :D
With 2 months, you could fit Wimbledon, Silverstone, goodwood........
Everyone says that (honest) not that I have been (yet)
Is someone coming with you? I can't imagine going to a GP by myself. I've only been to a GP once mind so maybe it'd be okay.
I went to my first ever Australian GP by myself and I went to Singapore by myself. Ideally I'd like to have someone else to go to Monza with because at least I went alone to English speaking races :D
I figure I have a year to talk someone into it. :D
thats because we have Central Otago. Most people love Queenstown as its a tourist mecca but I'm going to say that I prefer Wanaka because I like sitting by the lake :D
That counts me out, I was useless in Italy. Lots of very confused faces
Fair enough. I have friends that live near Alexandra that I can stay with so yeah, I'll probably be spending most of my time on the South island.
ooh Alex is pretty too. I used to go there lots as a kid because my parents best friends lived there :D
and a local lingo tip, we say 'in' the island not 'on' the island which doesn't make sense now that I think about it.
Thanks very much ;)
:D
hehe.
Whaaat? I specifically chose NZ because I don't have awful language issues ;)
You obviously never heard a kiwi speak #sorryamy
ooooh good luck with that ;)
I might just try and pull of 'quaint and British'
theres plenty of poms around, you'll fit right in :P
Oi!
I'm sure the tourism books agree with me :D
Hmmm I don't think you call Scottish people poms? I'm certainly not English.
That's why the North Island is better - not as many bloody tourists! ;)
because the North Islands best tourism feature is this :D
Erm, poms refers to Prisoners Of Mother England - some english people don't like it. I've been called worse but the Scots are loved in NZ like brothers :)
you're all the same to us ;)
Nowhere thinks they are more Scottish than my lovely home town of Dunedin, the "Edinburgh of the South"
we even stole all their street names.
thats not actually true, thats a backronym
Is it not? What does it mean then?
they don't know, but theres no evidence to support that theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_words_for_British#Pommy
Yeah I read that. A common misunderstanding then!
I am reading about Edinburgh and realising just how much of their names we stole. We even stole their river!
Blimey, do people really find it highly offensive? I can't believe they've had high court judgements about its usage on the tv....
I had no idea, all the British friends I ever had/my parents ever had always referred to themselves as poms.
I'm not sure. We never did, but there was one of my friends that was. I think it's silly to get offended at those who are small-minded enough to use it - only once did someone not want to deal with me because I was a pom.
I love the word and always referred to myself as one because it's quite funny sounding! :D
*yawns and stretches* Morning all :P
No workwiss today?
Do I need to get a visa to go to Australia for a couple of weeks providing I'm not going to work.
It's bank holiday in the UK today :P
Poo. Yes I do.
nope, I think you can stay for 90 days without a visa
oh scratch that then
ahh I see, you can stay 90 days but you have to apply online before you arrive :D
I don't need one to go to NZ provided my trip's not longer than 6 months and I don't work. Australians seem pretty uptight though....
good ol Kiwis, so laid back :D
You can stay as long as you like - just don't bring any Fruit or Veg into the country ;)
I don't understand what they think I'm about to do... Set up camp and refuse to go home? It's not like I live in the 3rd world.
you'd be surprised how many people I meet who don't want to go home when their visa runs out!
The only European countries that require New Zealand passport holders to have a visa for a stay of less than three months are Belarus, Moldova, Russia and Ukraine.
Good thing none of those are on my "must do" list.
I mentioned my trip to my flatmate and she said 'will you have enough time to go to Finland?'
I'm so predictable :D :D
I'd need a visa to go to those places as well.... I looked into going through Belarus on my trip round Eastern Europe and decided it was more hassle than it was worth. I'm curious to go see a communist state while it's still in operation though.
a lot of my friends have been to China but I have no intention of dealing with the hassle so I don't expect to ever go there.
What if Bernie holds a grand prix there?
I spoke to a Finnish guy who went to the Turkish Grand Prix this year ... he said there was no atmosphere and it was too expensive but he enjoyed it and loved the noise.
He hasn't watched F1 much since Hakkinen retired. When I asked about Kimi, he said "Oh, he's weird and dull - even when he speaks in Finnish!"
I didn't dare ask him about Kovalainen. #sorryamy
It's cool but weird, apparently...
I don't have any real interest in going to China. It's all a bit too oppressive for my liking.
theres plenty of other grands prix in nice countries that I haven't been to :D
Morning all
Since when was Russia in Europe?
ITS JON EVERYBODY!!
shhhhh!!!
what did i do?
Ooooh I solved my Australian visa issue. I just have to register my passport number and they'll attach a visa to that. It's free! That's always a bonus.
just excited by your arrival.
awesome
So it wasnt a dream
I'm getting really excited about my trip now. I think I've just about convinced myself that it's gonna end up happening!
I wonder how easy it is to fly on to India from there.
flying out of NZ seems to be a lot dearer than flying out of Australia
Hmmm it is quite a lot! Just as much as going from home. Maybe it's just in my head, but it seems like it should be closer from down there....
It seems that last night i wrote a song about Mr C killing Ringo Star (and Heikki, #sorryamy)
:(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaOK7u4CtRc
HE LIVES
woah!! in Francks old appartment!!
I can't watch him chopping that pepper! Put it on a chopping board you STUPID BOY!!
I have lost track of how many times I have watched that video. SO I WILL NOT STAND FOR CRITICISM OF ITV FEATURES.
You sound like my mum :(
You don't hold things in your hand while you slice them.... It's just asking for trouble. But yes. I sound like my mother too!
I found a GP2 interview. Bless him, he looks like a kid
I get shouted at because i cut on the granite, even though nothing can scratch granite
oh gosh his hair at that time makes me cringe
Does this make you very very very 'appy
Woo.
You can tell it has been a bad season when you celebrate 4th and 5th.
The chance of a Ferrari drive was like a lightning rod to Trulli as well...
I love that video :D I understand one word in the whole thing, but I love it anyway :D
I just realised Kimi's made it 6 different winners so far this season:
Button, Vettel, Webber, Hamilton, Barrichello, Raikkonen.
Reckon we'll get any more?
And those 6 winners have won in hte last 6 races!
Oh yeah! How's that for a statistic! :D
Glock woulda won if it wasn't for that pitlane messup.
And err, Kubica woulda won if Ferrari, Force India and Red Bull were slower.
Question to all, are the champagne bottles de-corked before they are given to teh drivers? or do the drivers have to take the cork out before they spray it?
Heikki is going to win the next 5, so just the one.
I would have beaten them all...if they were driving pedal go karts and i was in a petrol one
In all honesty.
BMW will win a race, you heard it here fist.
????
I think he means this year....
ah ok, i think he's dreaming ;)
This season.
I predicted Alonso would have a wheel problem, and he did. So you just watch.
aha yeah i saw that. quite impressive
I cant believe it's been 12 years since a particularly memorable motorkhana event and it hasn't been on the news here at all. Yay!
http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/viewdocs-nf/diedtoday
Probably because it's been so over-reported?
Certain British Media establishments would disagree ;)
I picked up that certain media establisment this morning, nothing in it.
Well, nothing in the sports section or the front page, which is progress.
Well, thats me out, talk same time tomorrow, possibly, don't know, bye.
See ya, im off too. Am going ot play pitch and putt!
I'm on my way to a lunch. But I have been required to attend by 11am. What's that all about? 11am seems very early for a lunch.
Oh BTW, my boss told me on Friday he was sure a Ferrari would win at Spa. I laughed in his face.
Guess who asked me if I watched the race yesterday? ;)
What's wrong with this picture?
Alia will say "nothing" ;)
In quite a houseproud part of London. I saw somebody brushing their front step - okay no problem, next house along somebody washing their car - okay no problem, next guy is polishing his boat. Where did he get that from? Bullseye?
Morning everyone!
Morning Lukeh :D
Is everyone embracing the bank holiday by enjoying a nice, calm day off then?
I've pretty much recovered from my night out last night. Dare say my ears have just about too :P
I'm at work. Stop bragging :(
Oooh look what he could've won! Super, smashing, great!
I was at work, now I am in bed :D
Morning - I absolutely am. 2nd megabig sleep in as many days, and I plan to potter about, work out how much I'm spending on stuff so I can think about moving, while I've got racing recordings in the background on the telly.
Thanks for that, Bully.
Sounds good!
I'm off out on my bike so I'll see you guys later :)
See ya.
Howdy all, am back. It's fair to say i'm loosing my touch when it comes to pitch and putt
have fun
I was on a sofa, now I am in a blackhole of my own creation.
Beer will lose this battle one day.
How big is this blackhole?
Massive?
Super?
Super Massive??
Have the superstars been sucked into it?
with love and gusto
I think he's doing pretty well in that car. Rosberg would HATE being at McLaren.
a) I get the idea he wouldn't take the no.2 role in any team.
b) he'd have to cut his hair
Yeah he's doing well, but nothing special. If Fisi and FIF1 can do it then Rosberg should too.
(a) He can't be number 2 at anything!
(b) He'd be a number 2 before that happened!
not too big. Discussing ways to get to the nearest jungle...
Ted Kravitz can scratch granite.
for the second week in a row I have tried to have an early night on the same day my flatmate has hosted a dinner party. And her friends are not normal girls, they are the sort of girls who SHRIEK at each other. AHHH.
Just give in and join in?
soooo tired. that whole 4am thing last night didn't do me well. Plus I refuse to shriek and cackle like a hyena, I just can't :D
Do you purr like a cat instead?
Afternoon everyone :)
I talk at normal volume levels and laugh in a distinguished proper manner :D
who was nelson’s engineer at the time. who told him to push? {Comment #180}
P. Charles (don't know his full first name) - it was his first season as a race engineer at Renault.
How very polite! Is this the flatmate that's a booze-hog?
:D
no, oddly its the Muslim one who doesn't drink at all!
That's always dangerous when you have a friend that doesn't drink - they remember what you said and did the day after!
afternoooon
you should probably never come out for a drink with me then ;)
muhaha thats often me, I don't drink much because I have an obsessive hate of taxis. Which sounds very odd.
I've just found a folder of stuff i've printed out, must have been 2 years ago...
It's probably a good 100 pages of information about how to design and build a racing car....
I didn't know you have to drink to take a taxi!
ugh, sometimes I hate McLarens marketing. Promoting yourself via a hashtag you made up yourself is LAME. LAAAAAAME.
So I haven’t caught up with the comments and everything yet but how did everyone supporting their assigned drivers go? {Comment #249}
Mine came 2nd. What do you mean I wasn't assigned a driver in the first place?!?
I like to be the sober driver because I like to be able to get myself home, for free, at any time that I want to go home :D
I also throw up everytime I drink more than 2 standard drinks. We don't get on very well, me and alcohol.
You must be allergic to alcohol...
my grandmother and my aunty both are, their throats close up though. Mine doesn't do that :D
do tell?
we been getting aggravation from their marketing dept. all week.
Theres samon in the oven....but i want to put my pizza in, but theres a risk of it coming out smelling of fish. Good plan or bad plan?
Hi Lou.
What toppings?
do they email you telling you to be nice to heikki?
actually, come to think of it, is the email address [email protected]??
Cheese and Pepper
Goes with fish... go for it!
Mum used to be able to drink but seems to have developed an allergy. These days she's drunk on a small glass or two of wine or a beer, and gets ill. Not hangover sort of ill, either.
ah but im not a fan of fish. ill try it, am hungry and need to go out soon
Is this the next stage after the boat?
first it was "Let's get the good spirit out there & have a #McLarenMonday."
then people weren't getting the point so they tried to bribe them "1. Follow us 2. Tweet a message with the #McLarenMonday hashtag. We'll give away a very special gift & vouchers. Pls RT."
Then they try to make it like a FUN GAME when its clearly MARKETING "We have made it into the trending topics here on #Twitter! Gr8, well done - keep them coming! :) #McLarenMonday"
I just realised Kimi’s made it 6 different winners so far this season:
Button, Vettel, Webber, Hamilton, Barrichello, Raikkonen.
Reckon we’ll get any more? {Comment #341}
On the quiet, yes. At least one and possibly two.
a company called go viral keep asking us to plug the crappy videos and the telemetry thing that doesn't work.
and can I have a job?
Does it have a Ferrari logo on it?
Next is a kayak but then a car would be the natural progression i think
ahh I saw your tweet to McLaren asking them to leave you alone, I was wondering what they'd been doing :D
only if i can get one too? hey wait...:P
i don't know who's in charge of the twitter account, but it sounds like a marketing company rather than mclaren.
the boat, or hte car that dosent exist?
ooh, sidepodinsideknowledge!
Time for me to drive south. Please ask your friends to keep off the motorway's as I am not in the mood for bank holiday traffic!
That was fun :) although my legs are now jelly and I'm sweating like a defrosting freezer
F1_Girl keeps doing it, so I replied to her "if you do a search, most of them are spam. Great promotion McLaren!"
and she replied "there are a lot of spam tweets but at least it is getting the McLaren name trending though :s #McLarenMonday"
so I said "I must be cynical but I don't see how a trend on Twitter does anything at all to further the brand"
Someone please explain why anyone bothers because I can't stand hashtag promo.
It's a deal, whats it worth?
The 100 pages on how to build a car?
OH!!! :D :D :D
see, i like what you did there. today is a slow day for me
emails kinda went:
-please embed our videos
-please embed our videos
-our videos are great
-please embed our videos
-they are perfect for your audience
-please embed our videos
-it's a win, win
-please embed our videos
-we'll pay peanuts
-we'll pay more
-have you done it yet?
oh my. I love the team but I do hate the way they go about some things.
i don't get it either. it would be cool if brawn and mclaren had a competition or something.
You know, they say that eating fish increases brain function... ;)
What got me was that when I said no, the way your handling your campaign sucks, the response was: "But have you seen the videos, they're ace."
they've assigned the role to goviral. it's not the teams fault. hence why i tweeted and said they can pick a better partner.
My pizza will smell of fish?
:D
"I think I stole this comment from Amy, but she'll never watch this"
oh really? :D
oooooooooops!
It's a start...
Hahaha, busted!
their videos ain't ace, I even find the ones with Heikki boring.
They need to like, cook with him or something ;)
That's highly annoying... Were the videos bad? tbh even if they were good I probably be put off by the hassling..
oops
wow... that must have been really annoying :(
hehe Brawn would totally win :P
would prefer it if they gave us the raw footage so we could create something original.
I never realised how much I used Pg Up and Pg Dn until now that I don't have them as buttons anymore
What’s wrong with this picture?
Alia will say “nothing” {Comment #362}
I was thinking more like "if the BBC are getting that carried away, will the Indian press be claiming Fisi won the championship?"
It does seem unfair on Kimi though. If he hadn't been there and at the top of his game, would Giancarlo have driven as well as he did? Yet I can see Kimi's win being as forgotten as Jean-Pierre Jabouille's win in France 1979...
I've got to go out because i've got that stupid song i made up still in my head!! ARGGH!!! Bank holiday Monday Market me thinks.
See y'all later
That’s always dangerous when you have a friend that doesn’t drink – they remember what you said and did the day after! {Comment #395}
I'm a teetotaller, but I would be unlikely to remember what you did the night before on the grounds that I find most pubs and clubs too noisy...
see ya :)
i don’t know who’s in charge of the twitter account, but it sounds like a marketing company rather than mclaren. {Comment #424}
I like the counter-response from Cul_S:
F1 calendar #MaclarenMonday #TorroRossoTuesday #WilliamsWednesday #ToyotaThursday #ForceIndiaFriday #SauberSaturday
Um, don’t they always speak to him about the team? He reports on 5 Live, speaks on the podcast – so how is he not authorised to speak to the media as the ‘Business Affairs Manager’? {Comment #451}
I think Vijay meant he wasn't authorised to speak about the details of this particular matter, rather than in general. Otherwise I can only assume Vijay was so furious that he forgot about Ian's output so far this season...
yaaaay winter is over in 82 minutes :D
There was a winter this year? :)
not a winter like I'm used to, but it got below 10 a few times ;)
Well, summer's officially over in this part of the world - it's getting hard to play cricket without a jumper. What would be ideal would be to spend summer in Europe, and then go to Oz or NZ afterwards.
JPJ's win at Dijon may be forgotten by nearly everyone, due to the Arnoux-Villeneuve battle, but it was a mark of his consistency (and Arnoux's raggedness) that he was in front anyway. I guess I'd probably have to say that Arnoux was the more talented driver, but he never seemed to get luck with cars in top teams.
These guys got lucky!
Things, they are a changin'.
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/08/31/making-conversation/
Babies crying makes me sad. Shouldnt they just sleep all the time or something?
What I would like to know is why does Sidepodcast Towers have tighter security than the Tower of London itself? At least there are public tours of the Tower of London... :P .
#fr
I've finally got round to looking at my Fantasy Racers results. They were pretty desultory, but the worrying thing is that two of the worst-performing teams relied almost entirely on one driver to generate their scores.
LCM Barato was the best team, and in fact at 611 points was very good. Picking Fisichella and both BMWs was a good move and the (three) other drivers didn't get taken out. Heidfeld is, however, worth too much money to be retained by the automatic selection system, so is being replaced by Grosjean.
LCM Barato is also the 21st-fastest-rising team in Fantasy Racers, making 378 places in the overall league.
LCM Aléman put in its usual respectable performance, this time netting 532 points. The best performances were from Vettel and Heidfeld. What helped was that, like with LCM Barato, everyone finished.
The same cannot be said for LCM Dragons. Despite this being my fully-selected team, I made only one good choice for it. Four of the drivers selected scored 72 points between them. Luckily for the team, the other one on the team was Fisichella...
LCM Fire Lizard fared even worse. When the second-highest scoring driver on the team scores 54 points, you know there's a problem. The only reason the squad even broke the 100-point mark, let alone made 230, was Fisichella.
LCM Caro was abysmal even by its own standards. Of its two drivers, one crashed and the Vettel's podium wasn't enough to salvage more than 228 points. However, I have declined to change the line-up at the present time.
One last note - I am slightly baffled as to why 46 teams still contain Michael Schumacher.
Yeah, there are some roads that are arrow-straight and Christchurch is on a grid-road system. ==> It has the advantage that it is very easy to figure out which direction you are headed in.
I knew Barato would win!
nooo I get lost in Christchurch every time I am there because its so flat and grid like that regardless of what direction you are going in, everything looks the same.
My brothers favourite game to play with me when he lived there was as we were driving around, to ask me to point to where I thought the ocean was. I had noooo idea.
What about if the comment about Finnish being the world's hardest language was actually a segue to a commenting chain about Kimi Raikkonen being a near-mute? Now THAT would be F1-related!
BTW, the hardest language in the world is reputed to be Lithuanian, so pity poor Kazim Vasiliauskas in F2 when he's given the chance to speak in his own language and journos try to make out what he's saying!
Interesting. My Cousin married a Kiwi and I do not find it differcult to understand him, but I can never tell the difference between a drunken Kiwi and a Aussie speaking normally...
I wonder if I could find a way to Qik playing drums on Rock Band...
oh wow!
I think I'll find a way to set up my phone. Hold on a sec
Surprisingly warm outside. Just went out to get stuff from the car and get some air. My flat is deceptively cool.
Try a trip to China, then North Korea, and finally Cuba and then see how many red flags you raise when you try to enter the U.S... Should be amusing...
China's fine, Cuba's a bit tougher. But after what happened to those 2 journalists, good luck getting in and out of North Korea...
Gonna try streaming now on Qik if anyones interested, if it works! Fingers crossed
http://qik.com/lukehmuse
I so need to buy Rock Band :D
choooon!
this is my favourite the who song everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
i NEED rockband!
Reminds me of that SCTV (John Candy started on this show) skit when Russian TV channel CCCP1 jams SCTV off the air ==> There's one show called "What fits into Mother Russia?"
"Europe has always been in Mother Russia. Asia is to small to contain the vastness of Mother Russia...."
Actually, the geographic boundary between Europe and Asia is the Ural Mountains, and so runs right thru the middle of Russia.
It makes me want to pull out my guitar hero and have a bash even though my drums are in about 12 pieces and its 12.12am and I was having an early night 3 hours ago.
You're saying Russia is in both Europe and Asia? Thats just greedy
hehehe!!
Wiki says Eurasia, Wiki is where I get all my geographical knowledge :D
am feeling trapped in my cold dark little flat... need to go for a walk in the sun, back later..
we're doing the same in about 15mins.
Wiki is where i get all my knowledge ;)
see ya in a bit
i have no idea what this song is?
my sharona!
ahh, yes.
new years eve 2004 I may or may not have ushered in the new year with an inspired karaoke version in front of 500 strangers at a local pub.
That must have been one of those rare times I have more than 2 drinks. ;)
You should really build up your resistance to this allergy, Amy...
arms = dead
Fun though :D sorry if tv was a bit quiet... forgot how BANG the drums can be
i wanna see you drum! 'cept we're going out in a bit.
you inspired me to upload a video to the drop but its taking foreverrrr
Eura-SIA!!
Sorry... too tempting...
We'd be going out now if you weren't commenting.
bus-ted
Wuh-oh
Oops
I knew Barato would win! {Comment #468}
How?
But Dijon '79 was immortalized by the wheel-banging dual for 2nd place between Villeneuve and Arnoux. Whoever was in 1st was miles ahead and so just waltzed away to a win. His only problem was that James Allen was not on the BBC to compare his boring drive to another (To go 30 years into the future) "Senna-eque" performance...
BTW, who is this Jean-Pierre Jabouille guy of which you speak? :P
Thus, your problem. I looked at my watch first then looked up to where the sun is to get my directions. Although around noon, I must confuss that I had everything backwards, as the sun, to my logic, should have been to the south of me when it was to the north of me. Stupid Southern Hemisphere.....
Amy, how hot is NZ Dec-March? Blistering?
NZ doesn't do blistering ;) Mid-high 20s is a normal summers day, although it gets into the 30s regularly in central otago.
Actually, I think the idea of a country being in two continents is actually a Turkish idea. (Most of Turkey is in Asia, but the Turkish Grand Prix is actually in Europe.) The Russians just copied the Turks.
Because you chose all the cheap drivers and I knew you had Fisi in there! Remember all the usual drivers did badly, so the cheaper ones must have done well!
Hmmm 30s is too hot for me though! I've been hospitalised due to heat stroke in France one year and Holland another :P
I really don't do hot!
Most of NZ would be perfect for you in summer then :D
The Turkish GP is across the bridge on the Asian side too.
http://www.dainese.com/eng/home.asp
BEST 404 MESSAGE EVER
Oh grand. I was concerned it was gonna get too hot. I'm just so obviously designed to live in Britain. I burn really easily and pass out in the heat :P
:D
Sounds like a girl that would love Alert, N.W.T, Canada then, Just watch out for the resident Polar Bear...
Afternoon all
Typical Rossi. He can even make us smile with a 404
Then what the hell is on European side of Turkey?
You will burn easily in NZ too - for some reason more than other places...
Istanbul!
the giant hole in the ozone layer floats around right above NZ :(
I'll be okay. Sunblock is my friend. I bath in the stuff all summer.
The bridge to the asian side
Surely the long white cloud blocks the sun
Is no bull ? :D
Sorry, had to say it...
i'm not good with heat either, as i tend to dehydrate really quickly and get headaches.. although that i can deal with, it's the burning badly even though i have factor 30 sun cream on in the middle of Spain that gets me... :(
It does on most days!
I can be sensible about staying out the direct sun, covering up, putting on sun block properly. It's just if the air temperature is too high, you can't get away from it.
Ugh. Daily Mirror lives up to it's utter fail status as a newspaper. The sports headline inside:
Disaster day for Button and Hamilton as they take each other out on first lap!!
Just... no. Sadly so many people will read that and think somethign 100% different to what happened! Sensationalist media annoys me so much!!
ahh that's better, needed that bit of air..
I need to stop reading about how to travel in Europe and go to bed. Night all!
Night amy!
That early night worked well eh?
Night!
night Amy.
Night
Spa's Paddock Life is out, and settles the question of where the FIFI motorhome came from:
http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/78229
It also talks about the effort the other teams went to to get their stuff from Valencia to the Ardennes in just a couple of days.
Just been reading it now, excellent as ever. DC's little comments about being the meaning of the watch he was given made me laugh :D
Night Amy
And the Schumi comeback caps!
Doesn't Mr. C need a new hat? ;)
Hello all.
Hey Jarrett
Things are pretty quiet at the minute..
It has gone kinda quiet!
I'm just checking out bands.
hi!
I'm trying to sort out admin on my ebay/paypal account. A piece of advice: never move house.....
I'm thinking that i should blog as its the last day of the month and i'm a blog-hits-junkie. I'm already at the highest hits per month, this month.
I'm working on money-related things
Oooh, i'd never think of that. It's the little things that are most annoying
i'm around but i am still sorting out stuff from holiday... so i'm kinda not around.. lol
#sidepodspace
Now that NASA have managed to launch the shuttle and dock it with the ISS I thought it would be worth pointing aout a few of the viewing highlights of the mission. For vastly more detail there is a 100+ page press kit for the mission that can be downloaded from http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/379392main_STS-128_Press_Kit.pdf
Today is Flight Day 4 in NASA-speak and the main activity of the day is to pick up the Leonardo MLM(Multi-Purpose Logistics Module) from the shuttle's payload bay using the robotic arm and mount it on the Harmony node of the ISS. MLMs are cylindrical shipping containers full of all sorts of goodies. Once it is connected the hatches will be opened and all those highly trained astronauts have to hand carry the contents into the station and fill the MLM with rubbish and used equipment to be returned to Earth.
The last activity of the day is for tomorrow's spacewalkers to camp out in the air lock so that they can breathe the necessary mixture of gasses overnight.
Tomorrow Flight Day 5 is spacewalk day
Spacewalk 1 by Olivas and Stott (Preparation of P1 Truss Ammonia Tank Assembly for removal, EuTEF and MISSE experiment removal from the Columbus module)
• Rack transfers from Leonardo to the station; transfer of the COLBERT treadmill from Leonardo to the space station
Wednesday Flight Day 6
• Focused inspection of Discovery’s thermal heat shield by the shuttle robotic arm/OBSS, if necessary
• Rack and cargo transfers from Leonardo to the station
• Spacewalk 2 Campout in Quest airlock by Olivas and Fuglesang
Thursday Flight Day 7
• Spacewalk 2 by Olivas and Fuglesang (Completion of Ammonia Tank Assembly swapout on P1 truss)
Friday Flight Day 8
• Crew off-duty time
• Cargo transfer from Leonardo to the station
• Spacewalk 3 Campout in Quest airlock by Olivas and Fuglesang
Saturday Flight Day 9
• Spacewalk 3 by Olivas and Fuglesang (Routing avionics cables for Tranquility Node 3 installation, replacement of Rate Gyro Assembly on the S0 truss, installation of two GPS antennas on the S0 truss)
• Cargo transfer from Leonardo to the station
Sunday Flight Day 10
• Cargo transfer from Leonardo to the station
• Crew off-duty time
Monday Flight Day 11
• Final transfers
• Leonardo egress and systems deactivation
• Leonardo demating from Earth-facing port on Harmony node and berthing back in Discovery’s cargo bay
• Farewells and Hatch Closure
Tuesday Flight Day 12
• Discovery undocking from station
• Flyaround of station and final separation
• Late inspection of Discovery’s thermal protection system with the OBSS
Wednesday Flight Day 13
• Flight Control System Checkout
• Reaction Control System hot-fire test
• Crew Deorbit Briefing
• Cabin Stowage
• Recumbent Seat Setup for Kopra
Thursday Flight Day 14
• Deorbit preparations
• Payload Bay Door closing
• Deorbit burn
• KSC Landing
I certainly didn't remember about it! I moved months ago. It's just when I'm about to buy things and it refuses to dispatch to my actual address that I notice....
That didn't look like such a long comment till I clicked post comment
Having moved three times in the last four years I can tell you it sucks. Getting PP sorted took a good while.
So... if I take my income and subtract known expenses, I should making lots of money to save up to move into a proper place instead of a dinky granny-annexe. What I'd like to know is why I'm not....
Because you are under-estimating your expenses would be my guess. Most people know to the penny what they earn but not what they spend.
Is that 'house-buy' moving, or rental moving? I know what it's like to move between rented accomodation - a real pain - and can't imagine how much more stressful it would be if you're buying/selling too.
Hahaha yeah! That sounds like the story of my life. I would say keep a spending diary but I'm incapable of doing that. I cheat which somewhat defeats the object!
Yes. I blame my luck with cars.
Well it looks like I got my question about the usefulness about KERS was answered. What a race.
I tried that in my teens but it never worked. I always ended up spending more than the diary said and I was not consciously cheating.
I'm back... Lunch took a while...
Hello everyone. Have been away in beautiful Derbyshire for the last 10 days. Now home with a mountain of washing to do & podcasts to catch up on. Drop.io is very funny when you just look at the photos & don't know about the accompanying comments :-) Hope you are all well & have been playing nicely whilst I've been away :lol:
Great race, looks like KERS will be very handy at Monza too...
Hi Janna. We've been on our best behaviour, I swear.
Welcome back
I had never thought of just viewing dropio without the accompanying comments. I have occasionally seen things in there and had to read back in the comments to find out what it was and why it was there but twn days of unexplained dropio must be weird.
Hey Janna.
The most scary thing to do is to keep a record of every penny you spend for a couple of weeks. I always account for the cash I take out as "Cash" & not what it goes on. I kept a record like this without controlling my spending but just writing it down. I waste so much cash on nothing!
How can you say that when Mr C killed Ringo Starr last nght?
Not to mention Hekki!
You saw my knitting?? :D
I can see I need to listen to the live streaming, good thing I'm subscribed to everything on the Show Selector
It looks great, really even which is more than I can say for the last time I tried
No need!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QrvxX-2Cg
You do know that anyone in the world can see your knitting?
It is amazing knitting! I've used pure cotton to do it and the stitches are tiny. I think it deserves global recognition :P
I feel sorry for Phillips. He said he could imagine a move being made within the next 24 hours, but he didn't mean a Fisi move to Ferrari, he meant a move by Ferrari to get hold of Fisi. Having listened to the whole thing on the BBC site it looks like Mallya has responded to what he thought Phillips said, rather than what he actually said. He was actually quite guarded and never said they would let Fisi go. (Sorry if this has been said already - didn't read down past the first couple of pages ;-) )
Right...it's time to embaress myself....back in a bit
Christine's reaction is brilliant
If you want the whole world to see your amazing knitting at http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/knitting-jpg then you should ask everyone to tweet about it and watch the number of people online on dropio in the bottom left corner.
It was a good show for Christine's reactions. This is what happened when Mr C asked if she thought Rubens would have damaged his gearbox. http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/do-you-think-rubens-ruined-his-gearbox-png
It's longer than that now. I did loads this morning.
I'm not on twitter :P
Lots of people here are and I am sure they would like nothing better than to announce to the world how interested they are in our knitting
Hadn't seen Mr C killing off Ringo Star until then! Classic!
I may regret that moment for the rest of my life....:D
Alison is it you with the Etsy account?
Errrm I hope not?
poppy has an etsy account, i think. linked to it the other day.
Ah somebody here is selling their knitting on that site...
Mr C, just let you an *Ahem* voice mail..
and of course i mean *left
The conversation continued in the comments with Andy telling us Paul McCartney was killed in 1966 and there is a whole conspiracy theory about this that I have never heard of. Then Mr C chopped Heikki's head of.
Selling? Goodness. Less of that. I'm knitting many scarves to put in Christmas shoeboxes.
poppy's shop(py)
on a monday? k, will check it shortly.
Good idea. No-one wants their Xmas shoes to get cold
umm....yeah....thought it best to get it off my chest ;)
hope it sounds ok, spent ages trying to get hte mic right
you have no idea what it is, do you?
is this the song??!
something i shall regret for the rest of my life ;)
maaaaaybe
yay!... oh.. but we have to wait till the next debrief?
ooh, i forgot :)
there's no debrief this week. should we put it on drop.io, or save until next week?
in 2 weeks time! :(
umm, drop.io please, i would have myself but my mic dosent work with audible (go figure)
can do.
Apparently, Mr C is quotable now.
http://twitter.com/dinomite/statuses/3669132999
Gah.
I have never seen Poppy' stuff before. I am impressed
and what a quote!
ta, don't put yourself out, it can wait until you're less busy (i realise what a silly thing that is to say)
Bah.
I have been up close and personal with some deer today:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/img-3089
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/img-3090
Luckily I was able to record it so that I can sidestep the whole outside problem.
I thought it was going to be about Ringo
I had heard of the first part.... but the second bit is a surprise
You've got whole trousers on, did you forget to cut the bottoms off these ones?
I usually have whole trousers on almost all of the time the shorts thing is a current summer thing... however it was quite overcast this morning.
Don't panic Janna the shorts are back on now :)
phew!!!!!!!!!
So are you going to be the new Attenborough?
He has stolen my look hasn't he ;)
:-) where was that?
Richmond Park
Sue him. I am sure you were there first
Evening all, i am back from manchester.
It started out as such a nice day then a wasp stung my neck. Really stressfull drive home, i have just listened to MrC kill ringo, was strangely relaxing... :P
Hey. everyone's currently discussing an idea for the commenting system for Sidepodcast 3.0
Blimey, that sounds painful!
I tried to catch up, I am confused... Better leave it to the experts!
That's what I'm doing! :)
I am ;) im mightily confused about it all. I'm happy to just see what happens :)
It was in subway, i may be too traumatised to ever return...
I felt something on my neck so went to splat it... and guess what!
Lesson learned, always brush off, never splat!
It is clear that the little animals in this world don't like the population of sidepodcast.
You are as much an expert as any of us
By the by... I need to buy a drobo... Any advice?
We get confused by what you lot are talking about...
we beg to differ ;)
I can't believe my drobo comment has been missed. I demand everyone's undivided attention ;)
waitwaitwati, i googled it, but i have no idea what a drobo is, so cant help ;)
i think you should buy one.
To an extent we are all confused. I certainly don't know how to solve this problem. We need to find a way for people not to take one look at the conversation and think they can't get involved but at the same time keep the loose flowing nature. Eventually id enough of us keep discussing it we will find a way.
Don't worry I was only making a poor joke about the making conversations thread... And how sometimes people's problem is that nobody knows the answer to the problem / question and they are ignoring the person because the person making the origional comment hasn't put the effort in to make their comment stand out be interesting enough and so on.
And now I've made this in the daily not the making conversations thread... whoops ;)
What is a drobo thingywajit then?
My entire drobo knowledge is at your disposal. Leo says they are fabulous and you should use them rather than any other storage.
That is my entire knowledge. No doubt it has been of great help to you.
It's a super cool external hard disk. It sits on the network so all of your computers can access it, and you can mix and match hard disks when you put them in so you don't need to match them. Buy 1 disk at first and then later add more as you need.
I'm listening to the debrief....turns out Mr C was trying to kill Glock too because of Badoers spinner...
Christine, watch out, you may be next ;)
Random question - does anyone think I look a bit like Jake?
Simple answer....no. Sorry to dispell your dreams
Just something that came into my head for some reason.
Post a pic for everyone...
Not remotely
You look more like him than I do!
Which F1 driver has the best hair?
Rosberg! Easy!
agreed.
Has anyone else mentioned PK for NASCAR?
@NelsonPiquet @jpmontoya hey dude! Need to talk to you! Are you following me? If not, how come?? DM me, ok? Take care!
imagine if taht wasnt the real jpm and he got the biggest scoop ever :D
I thought he closed his Twitter account?
No, somebody won his racesuit today...
Anyways food time :)
He changed his username a few weeks back
I told him to change his photo and he did... Not saying i have magical powers or nuttin.
No, he renamed it to remove the underscore.
i fink it may have had something to do with the fact that his old pic was with a renault hat?
ciao!
Are you suggesting Nick isn't Magic?
he still had it 2 weeks later, the day after i mentioned it to him it was gone...
that is magic, surely!
james allen didn't have a crappy blog header for this race... i think that makes lukeh magic too.
maybe you had a real impact on him.
tell him to go to Ferrari ;)
I am upset he did not use my suggestion
Was it something to do with Muse?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjnuBTPOaKY
it's just as professional as his old header I feel
Oops, stupid copy and paste.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/jamesheader-jpg
Right dinner time... Hope nobody felt the conversation got too boisterous!
I have mackerel
I wondered what a fat bloke and a crap diet plan had to do with James Allen's blog - I was very confused!
I did wonder...
Was funny though :-)
:D
It took me a few seconds to realised why I had linked you to an image via a youtube link!
I have pizza - shhh don't tell anyone
she'll never know.
we'll keep it under our hats
a hat full of wedges?
You mean nachos.
I confused you by suggesting we have wedges tonight.
I'm looking at this wondering if I'm missing a reference :-)
that could get aweful messy
yes.
yes.
Evening all, here's proof that CAPITAL LETTERS can be bad:
http://bit.ly/a8V0B
knew it!
THEY GET NAPTIME!?! AT WORK!!?
Why has Edd Straw just tweeted "I thought it was a seagull"?
Hi Andy. At least there was compensation..!
Right, I think I need to get some blog stuff done.
ahha, i was just about to say.
Good writer, great bloke, awesome racing driver....
Confused tweeter
Perhaps we should all tweet back... "it was!"
Was it Badoer's hub cap?? Just a guess
"Did the seagull try and attack glock...because that wasnt a seagull, that was badoers spinner"
done.
done
I hate rolling with the crowd ;-)
dancer?
is he referring to what Fisi hit? that what his other tweet talks about?
high five for your tweet
corny pun!
hehehe, he isusing web so i wonder if he will pick it up?
Driver Consistency for Belgium has been posted on my blog "Making Up The Numbers" - Turns out Vettel could have won if not for a heavy car in qualifying...
Just in case the link did not work
Where's the link? :P
I said this before the race! I think that might be the first insightful thing I've ever said....
Here
Well done you. People look at Fisi's pace because he was near the front but from wathing the timing screens it looked like a lot of people were running similar pace
Nice little blog you've got there. I'm not very good with these things and maybe i've missed it but is there somewhere i can click to just browse through the titles of older posts?
Wait a moment. Meatloaf is in House?!?
Yes - you can search by keyword, tag and month... is it easy to use?
At first glance, I mistook this for a comment with a yorkshire accent! :P
Oh I see the monthly lists now. It wasn't that obvious to me where I could find it but now I see it I can get around very easily yeah.
Meatloaf is in da house! Eez da shiznit, innit?
i thought he... died?
Let me know how you go - I would love to know how other people find it...
Uh oh.
how come pizzonia is getting 27 tweets a minute?
#sidepodspace
They are setting up to remove the Leonardo MLM(giant tin can) from the shuttle's payload bay and to berth it withthe ISS using one or more robotic arms. Leonard MLMs carry 7.5 tons of cargo and full loaded as it is now it weighs almost twice that.
NASA TV are running a live press conference about today's mission management team meeting which seems to have gone well. The only issue seems to be that they have had some ISS thrusters have failed but they have other thrusters that can be used. The only implication for the shuttle is that they may have to alter the shuttle undocking operation at the end of the mission.
bah?
Okay :)
Go here http://f1numbers.wordpress.com/
how do you know?
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=AntonioPizzonia
Twitter search has changed!
I thought there might be some fancy tool to count tpm on any given subject...
it just updates and every minute another 30 appear.
i dont seem to get that many coming up?
might have slowed a little.
nope. 74 in two mins.
i have had 3 since you posted the link?
Night all ;)
Mr C killed Pizzonia's twitterfeed. He just can't stop himself.
Night Gavin
do the online translate tools with a live-updating search thingamabob?
missed a word...
do they *work* with..
night
ok refreshed and got 7 in 30 secs...
It might look different, but Twitter search is still rubbish
night
:)
nope.
Another famous guitarist murdered?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090831/ten-police-to-review-rolling-stones-guit-a56114e.html
I am baming no-one. I know nothing
blaming
:D
http://f1numbers.wordpress.com/
This is nice. I thought pitfanatic.com was this blog for some reason...
To most people the planes would be annoying junk in the corner of the garage compared to what else is in there, but not this photographer!
http://twitpic.com/g08ns
I completly forgot.. What did MrsC say about spa, and did MrC film him breaking the news?
nope because Lou pushed him into it ;)
dropped me in it!
As a temporary notification measure.
New post: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/08/31/f1-digest-2009-belgium-gp/
Thats quite hilarious
"look at our wonderful planes...oh and that car in teh corner"
that too ;)
wait a sec...thats Montoya!!!! he has his F1 car!! thats too cool
I think my exact words were: Hmm.
Huh? I thought this was up already. I read about the upcoming changes and stuff too. Good idea for the most part. Might be a bit of work tho.
did you wrap that in cling film too?
I just posted it five minutes ago :)
ok n/m I'm silly. it is a new post (doi!)
ya caught me ;)
Excellent news :D
I will have to read back at some point!
So have we any more...errr....foil hat news on pk's singapore crash? seems like it's caught some wind and is spreading around the net but I'm not finding anything new
i didn't mean to... i figured he would have mentioned it...
I have no idea what you are on about. What did Lou do?
*lays low and goes back to writing blog post* ;)
you mean you haven't read back through Saturday's thread?..
I have missed a lot this past week
Are you coming to Spa Steven?
good job, its been like a month since your last one!
you know you're coming to spa... right?
i'll find a link to the convo for you :)
Since I started live commenting last thursday my F1 links bookmark folder has grown from about 5 to nearly 50. Keep 'em coming guys! You'd never think F1 was so popular over here in the US by the coverage we get.
Silly Americans, I know. I think the same and I am one
Has Lou taking over from Bassano as chief sidepodtrip organiser?
i'm really not good at this blogging thing.... and i was on holiday for 2 weeks of that month....
No-one told me but I am up for it so long as it is not before Wednesday
noooooooooo.
Bassano started, then Amy decided to come... It snowballed.
I should have known Bassano was involved.
This wiki page might be of use, too.
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Blog+Links
*starts counting pennies
how much are tickets? heh. Would have had to start saving last year about this time
ohh yes first thing I hit up a few weeks ago.
Its not for another year.
No idea about tickets, depends where we sit. I would imagine 100-250 Euro
So christine since you started a fisi thread what are the chances we'll have a flav/np/singapore discussion thread? Seems like it might be a good idea to gather all the possible thoughts.
Oh my god this Bruno Mantovani video is brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DubXTloLXZ8
Go Zombie Rubens!
Currently not working (see: sidepodaddiction can cost you your job) and I'd have to spring for a trans-con flight as well (in FL, US)
I think it was actually caused by some mysterious figures on a nearby grassy knoll.
It certainly could happen, although I think the conversation on that front has died down somewhat.
with a pellet gun. behind the bushes. I like this one. explains a lot - NP wouldnt have had to bork his race intentionally. Come to think of it, Flav was looking for something wasnt he?
I think it may need one when we get some actual news about it, but at the moment theres not much apart from speculations and the FIA saying "we're looking in to it"
My Bus company sent me an email saying "we're looking into why your bus never turned up for an hour even though it says 'one every 10 minutes' on it" but i wont write a blog post about it ;)
Is it like 'Hazard'?
I believe Renault to be guilty, even though we all know they will get away with it
:D
:D
my feeling is the same.
heh yeah but since we've got 10 more days until another race I'm already fiending for news and developments.
Looking for work can get so very boring.
Nick, PK has sent you a tweet...
"Thank you all! I would like to give one million prizes! Twitter is always a good place for me... And that's because of you! :)"
;)
:D
The convo started here and was then talked about here in the daily
*blushes
awww pk, you shouldnt have!
He is too popular.... I am a bit annoyed he had his contest when i was away for the cricket though!
dang...wireless taking a dive again. I really must go hide my neighbors wii, seems they only like to play once I'm on the 'net.
Good shows this weekend mr. & mrs c. even cooler now that I know whats being talked about beforehand. Never even realized you edited them together, either, thought you just did a straight-faced breathless run-through. kudos +1 for all the hard work you do.
ahah everyone does until they watch the live show ;)
I was just writing something and managed to close the Doohickey.
Renault's result in Singapore doesn't affect either championship, so I agree that Renault are likely to escape a major penalty. I would imagine that the burden of proof is quite high on the FIA's side - all Renault have to do is deny everything and point out that PK jr left the team in a less than amicable fashion.
I didn't, but then I've done live radio.
i dont think they'll escape a major penalty if its proven. they purposely put a drivers safety and marshalls aswell second behind winning. they should get a good kicking for that
@ andy yes for the most part youre right but their actions could be seen (if true) to have undermined the entire sporting regulations on a basic level, by putting the saftey of everyone at risk, etc. So much more than simply winning a race - if true.
@jon seems we've been reading the same articles most recently. Okay I need to go forage for work. See you guys later :D
Well i cant read very well....so i doubt that ;) but if they are proven to have done it, i dont think they'll get off easy!
Have fun, hope you find something you like
Just to be clear - if found guilty then Renault deserve a bigger fine than the McLaren one, but it's unlikely they will be.
I asume there is evidence. Its a silly accusation to make if you cant do more than say it happened.
Unless its part of something bigger, it could just be the first grenade of many which will be hurled to end flavs f1 career sooner rather than later.
I agree, who do you believe; a team saying no or a driver saying yes
If there is a major penalty it will be the end of that f1 team
A fine?? Are we talking about the same event? You're not even allowed team orders, forget deliberate endangerment of many many people. Look at what they tried to do over a loose wheel. Renault would never compete again in F1 (possibly in any other FIA series.....)
a sacked driver.
What did we do before Bruno. Outstanding.
true, do you mean they are more likely or less likely to listen to him?
I agree 100%
Let's just say it makes things more interesting :)
Love it :-)
i believe that piquet snr knows where the bodies are buried. i believe this will be the first of many accusations. the only question for me is, are they going big, or are they firing warning shots?
What do you think they are aiming to get out of it? There's no way Renault will put him back in a car after this.
This could be a warning shot? What do you think they're holding back?
It could all go Star Wars
Piquet Snr ruins future plot twist by revealing Briatore is the father of Alonso
difficult to say. piquet's been around a very long time.
not a clue. hence why i'm wondering if this a warning shot. it may not even be true, but you can bet max, bernie and flav have sat up and taken notice.
i'm assuming that piquet snr wants ensure a seat for his boy. bernie's a man who can make that happen.
Hahahaha oh man Lukeh I can't explain how much that made me laugh.
Hehe.
So many images, all of them wrong
Does flav have kids? *fears for future of f1*
*/world
Ohh man I should just drop in and leave more often, look what I got started by just bringing it up again.
Lukeh, you are just too funny.
As far as warning shots...well, I'd like to see the big guns then. This will be very interesting, either way, because something is going to come out of this. Its almost a guarantee.
not necessarily. the people involved may say "message received" and make sure jnr's in a ferrari next weekend. etc etc.
And I'm off again. wishin I could find this kind of community around here, it would be such great fun to have an F1 party on racedays, an wake up the 'hood.
BTW I got a little reply from USGPE this morning, it says they've 'received my inquiry' It wasn't an auto-response, either, but it wasnt from peter windsor.
*bounces in chair a little
I dont have any doubts pk will get a drive in the future.
I think the PK's have taken it personally and now want to ruin flav. Bernie may be the only one who can stop them, i doubt he would though...
They can't do that. He's brought the sport into disrepute!
heheh... Toby Moody on the MotoGP calendar via Twitter (@tobymoody):
"It's alright for the People who make the calendar isn't it. They're already in their own bed via helicopter & 1st class. Misano; hours away."
They were in Indianapolis on Sunday and need to be in the middle of Italy for Thursday..
ohh man too many possibilities. mind starts to melt under the weight of it.
has he? the fia are investigating events at a previous world championship race. beyond that we don't really know anything.
Either way, putting Piquet into a Ferrari because he blackmailed you definitely would.
We know f1 is about as good at keeping secrets as a (gah mental block, but you know what i mean ;) )
haha. fair point.
This whole saga does put a new spin on the word executioner....
you say that. but look at the triple diffuser thing. they were kept pretty well hidden for almost a years worth of development.
it can keep secrets when it needs to.
not really, perhaps he was doing the sport a favour by revealing the truth. There is no way the FIA could say he brught the sport into disrepute if their is reasonable evidence for his claims.
Piquet may be flav's executioner....and his own...potentially
max has a thing for driver amnesty too.
That wasnt the sort of rumour that people struggle to avoid talking about though.
Its a bit like knowing the village gossip, people cant help themselves, but they can still keep their cards close to their chest when they are playing poker.
What if he can't prove it?
Then its his word vs theirs and who the FIA believes
I forgot max doesnt like flav and doesnt need Bernie anymore.
Oooh , this could be fun!
He doesnt have to prove it, just do enough to show it was plausable
Well we're all talking about it like it could have happened. I'd say he's managed.
Gavin are you still around?
He went to bed an hour ago
Oh okay thankyou! I wasn't paying attention.
Am watching GP2 from Barcelona on You Tube, with no commentary, just the car sounds. It's bliss
Possibly, but he could still face a disripute charge if renault can prove absoloutly it didnt happen. which is quite unlikely
I'm watching GP2 Asia from Bahrain... the driving standards are interesting...
aha, in the 5 minutes i've watched so far only 1 car has gone off....but theres 6 in a train so atleast 4 of them are going to end up in the wall
Do my eyes decieve me? Is this video taken at the German GP of F1 cars on You Tube? You mean Bernie hasnt taken it down yet?
Erm, a link would be nice. :P
A link?! you mean you can't just imagine it ?
Sleep for me! Night all
Night
night
night :)
But Dijon ‘79 was immortalized by the wheel-banging dual for 2nd place between Villeneuve and Arnoux. Whoever was in 1st was miles ahead and so just waltzed away to a win. {Comment #505}
You make a good point in that the reasons why people may struggle to remember who won a year hence will occur are different between Dijon 1979 and Spa 2009.
who is this Jean-Pierre Jabouille guy of which you speak? {Comment #505}
A French driver instrumental in helping to develop Renault's revolutionary turbo engine concept. Ironically he only got five other points in his entire career...
Ah history. Those were the days