A new month is upon us, and this is the month of Sidepodradio. Don't forget to keep your eye on the wiki and get involved. Some new slots have opened up on the schedule, so perhaps you'd like to come up with a show - F1 related or otherwise? They'll be some more blog posts forthcoming about Sidepodradio soon. Meanwhile, here's what we're talking about:

  • Jon has been thinking and has a couple of ideas floating around his head - one of which includes jumping headfirst into podcasting. Having commentated on a 24 hour race, podcasting should be easy. We welcome newcomers to the podcasting space, and wish Jon lots of luck (if he chooses to go ahead, which I hope he will!)
  • We're trying out something slightly new in terms of daily posts, in that if a big news story breaks, then it will warrant a post of it's own, so that discussion can be easily found afterwards. There was a lot of discussion in the introductory post for this idea, but I don't think it will make too much difference, at least not at first.
  • To round off the Spa weekend, all our podcasts are now completed - you can listen to the edited version of the Debrief here, and catch up with all the action from the race in the Digest. Don't forget if you're looking for quick links to any of the racing coverage this year, the 2009 Season page is very useful!

That'll do it for now. It's Tuesday already, which is making my week wonky, as we had Monday off as a Bank Holiday in the UK. Back to work it is, then! I'll see you in the comments.

1472 responses

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:03

    how on earth is it september already! :( Although i have a driving lesson today! (yay!)

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F131/08/2009 at 23:04

    Good morning, people in Sidepodcastland, who has Mr. C managed to kill off today ? :P

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:11

    how on earth is it september already! :( Although i have a driving lesson today! (yay!)

    I have no idea... this year is FLYING by

  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:11

    Welcome to a happy year of 0% interest on my student loan :D

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:13

    Hello Sidepodcast peeps

    I have returned to rinse my kidneys and allow my liver to regenerate :)

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:13

    Wake me up when september ends....*

    PK theory:

    Step 1: Crash

    Step 2: Keep job for 2nd Season

    Step 3: Get Fired

    Step 4: Get Flav Fired

    Step 5: Profit?

    *This is todays best song ever.

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:14

    Hello Sidepodcast peeps

    morning Bassano! :)

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:14

    I have returned to rinse my kidneys and allow my liver to regenerate :)

    Good plan, must give it a go!

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:15

    Good morning, people in Sidepodcastland, who has Mr. C managed to kill off today ? :P

    morning, evening whatever :-)

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:15

    Good plan, must give it a go!

    I hope to get at least 5 days of recuperation whilst at work ;)

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:16

    So, who's looking forward to Spa, is the road trip still on?

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:18

    Hello Sidepodcast peeps

    Hi.

    I have returned to rinse my kidneys and allow my liver to regenerate :)

    Ahh good. I think I need same, although more to do with beer seemingly adding weight...

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:18

    So, who's looking forward to Spa, is the road trip still on?

    i'm looking forward to it (if it's still happening).. tis something that will get me through this year i think... Steven didn't know about it until earlier though..

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:19

    i'm looking forward to it (if it's still happening).. tis something that will get me through this year i think... Steven didn't know about it until earlier though..

    Alex and I are leading the charge and are both still up for it. A wiki page will appear soon if it's not already been created

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:20

    So, who's looking forward to Spa, is the road trip still on?

    Definitely. Everyone should fly to LHR and then we can all drive over in a convoy.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:20

    Ahh good. I think I need same, although more to do with beer seemingly adding weight...

    It will do that (as well as the burgers, kebabs and curries)

    Seemingly, calories consumed after dark are exponentially heavier

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:21

    Alex and I are leading the charge and are both still up for it. A wiki page will appear soon if it's not already been created

    i haven't checked the wiki since yesterday... and normally my feed reader would tell me if there were any new things... however i'm too scared to open it... it's not been open for 15 days now :s

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:21

    Definitely. Everyone should fly to LHR and then we can all drive over in a convoy.

    Con-Voy!

  • Lukeh31/08/2009 at 23:21

    i haven't checked the wiki since yesterday... and normally my feed reader would tell me if there were any new things... however i'm too scared to open it... it's not been open for 15 days now :s

    I'm gonna say 65,829 unread feeds.

  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:22

    I don't think my car would make it all the way to Spa. Certainly not with passengers. Poor Panda! :(

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:22

    Definitely. Everyone should fly to LHR and then we can all drive over in a convoy.

    Er, its just down the road, i would have to drive quite a way in order to catch a flight there :P

    I liked the Eurostar idea, but driving is cool too

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:23

    I don't think my car would make it all the way to Spa. Certainly not with passengers. Poor Panda! :(

    Transportation will be high on the 'to sort' list

  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:24

    Transportation will be high on the 'to sort' list

    Hah, I am kidding. If I'm coming, I'll merrily drive. I love my car, it wouldn't want to miss out on the Belgian experience!

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:24

    Con-Voy!

    10-4 RubberGoat

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:25

    It will do that (as well as the burgers, kebabs and curries)

    The curries of late have not helped..

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:25

    Con-Voy!

    The main attraction of a convoy is finding ways to annoy 5live and other f1 media types :P

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:26

    I liked the Eurostar idea, but driving is cool too

    Eurostar would be fun but potentially could price people out.. I like the idea of driving there and back.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:27

    Eurostar would be fun but potentially could price people out.. I like the idea of driving there and back.

    Tweeting Ant with "get out of the way, you're not in a Super Aguri now!"

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:27

    Eurostar would be fun but potentially could price people out.. I like the idea of driving there and back.

    Although... whoever is driving would probably have to be responsible and not drink much.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:27

    Although... whoever is driving would probably have to be responsible and not drink much.

    I'll drive there and back but not on race day

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:27

    Eurostar would be fun but potentially could price people out.. I like the idea of driving there and back.

    I think if we book early enough it should be cheaper than driving.

    the cost of adding euro cover on my insurance would probably pay for at least 2 tickets!

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:28

    I'll drive there and back but not on race day

    nah we'd have to stay until Monday in a hotel somewhere, the only concern would be transport to/from circuit

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:29

    Eurostar would be fun but potentially could price people out.. I like the idea of driving there and back.

    I think if we book early enough it should be cheaper than driving.

    the cost of adding euro cover on my insurance would probably pay for at least 2 tickets!

    Really? I always thought Eurostar was amazingly expensive though I haven't looked since they moved it from Waterloo, and I've never looked a long way in advance...

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:29

    nah we'd have to stay until Monday in a hotel somewhere, the only concern would be transport to/from circuit

    I would think that would be plentiful and easily arranged

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:30

    I'm gonna say 65,829 unread feeds.

    i'll check... but i refuse to read any atm...

    it just says 1,000+... i don't want to know :(

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:30

    Really? I always thought Eurostar was amazingly expensive though I haven't looked since they moved it from Waterloo, and I've never looked a long way in advance...

    Most transportation bookings that far in advance are not usually great deals

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:30

    i'll check... but i refuse to read any atm...

    it just says 1,000+... i don't want to know :(

    If you're on Google Reader it won't say above 1000, and I found it seemed to delete older things if you left it long enough

  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:30

    Really? I always thought Eurostar was amazingly expensive though I haven't looked since they moved it from Waterloo, and I've never looked a long way in advance...

    Eurostar costs a ruddy fortune! It doesn't make a difference to me. I drive on the continent a fair bit so I keep the insurance on my policy as standard. Plus I'm coming from practically Scotland, that adds a fair bit to the rail fare....

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:30

    Really? I always thought Eurostar was amazingly expensive though I haven't looked since they moved it from Waterloo, and I've never looked a long way in advance...

    Found this http://www.eurostar.com/UK/uk/leisure/latest_deals/belgian_grand_prix.jsp

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:31

    Although... whoever is driving would probably have to be responsible and not drink much.

    i would drive there... but i've not passed yet.. and have no inclination to want to drive on the wrong side of the road...

  • Alboreto31/08/2009 at 23:31

    It's certainly something I want to do while I still can... that, and a trip to the Isle of Man TT. If I come to Spa, is anyone interested in coming to the TT? I'll maybe put a new message board post up about this too. I know it's not F1, but the guys there are like the great F1 drivers of the '50s in my opinion.

  • Steven Roy31/08/2009 at 23:31

    Good morning, people in Sidepodcastland, who has Mr. C managed to kill off today ? :P

    You won't believe it

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/6114709/Police-to-review-death-of-Rolling-Stones-Brian-Jones.html

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:31

    If you're on Google Reader it won't say above 1000, and I found it seemed to delete older things if you left it long enough

    yeah i am...gr. i'll check it tomorrow...

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:32

    i would drive there... but i've not passed yet.. and have no inclination to want to drive on the wrong side of the road...

    I thought they drove on the right side? :P

  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:33
  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:33

    Eurostar costs a ruddy fortune! It doesn't make a difference to me. I drive on the continent a fair bit so I keep the insurance on my policy as standard. Plus I'm coming from practically Scotland, that adds a fair bit to the rail fare....

    You might be able to get a budget flight down and have a lift with someone else, or Eurostar if it turns out not too bad..

  • Steven Roy31/08/2009 at 23:33

    nah we'd have to stay until Monday in a hotel somewhere, the only concern would be transport to/from circuit

    If there are enough of us all at the same hotel we just get them to organise a bus to and from

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:33

    I thought they drove on the right side? :P

    haha :P

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:33
  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:34

    If there are enough of us all at the same hotel we just get them to organise a bus to and from

    Is driving to the circuit totally out the question? :P

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:34

    "From £59" that's very surprising!

    Not sure if it is just 1 way, but that is not buying in advance still

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:35

    It's certainly something I want to do while I still can... that, and a trip to the Isle of Man TT. If I come to Spa, is anyone interested in coming to the TT? I'll maybe put a new message board post up about this too. I know it's not F1, but the guys there are like the great F1 drivers of the '50s in my opinion.

    Possibly.. I'm not hugely into bikes, but I was watching the TT review earlier funnily enough and those guys are something else..

    The only thing really is it's on for a week and I'm not sure I'd want to commit to that long.

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:35

    Is driving to the circuit totally out the question? :P

    If not everyone is driving a bus will likely make sense, as it will eliminate the cost of parking which i expect would be insanely high.

    Although getting a bus on gp weekend will likely be too

  • Steven Roy31/08/2009 at 23:38

    Is driving to the circuit totally out the question? :P

    That depends who is driving and what condition they are in the following morning. Bassano has a very bad reputation fo gettin innocent well meaning sidepodders drunk against their will.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:39

    That depends who is driving and what condition they are in the following morning. Bassano has a very bad reputation fo gettin innocent well meaning sidepodders drunk against their will.

    I never gave anyone a drink that didn't want it :)

    Driver's don't even get the offer

  • Steven Roy31/08/2009 at 23:40

    Possibly.. I'm not hugely into bikes, but I was watching the TT review earlier funnily enough and those guys are something else..

    The only thing really is it's on for a week and I'm not sure I'd want to commit to that long.

    The one thing anyone going to the IOM TT should know is that anyone can drive the track on a bike or in a car on the Monday. No speed limits. No traffic laws. Just 36 miles of the best roads in the world and a few thousand loonies.

  • Steven Roy31/08/2009 at 23:40

    I never gave anyone a drink that didn't want it :)

    Mr C told me you got him drunk and he only went into the pub to get orange juice

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:41

    Mr C told me you got him drunk and he only went into the pub to get orange juice

    Only because Christine was listening ;)

  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:43

    Ah, there's no risk of me drink driving....

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:43

    I never gave anyone a drink that didn't want it :)

    Driver's don't even get the offer

    In that case I like Steven's plan of getting a bus. I don't mind driving the road trip, would quite enjoy it actually, but during the weekend I would not wish to be relied upon...

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:45

    In that case I like Steven's plan of getting a bus. I don't mind driving the road trip, would quite enjoy it actually, but during the weekend I would not wish to be relied upon...

    Same, nor be very reliable in my case. Except of course, to be enjoying myself

  • Steven Roy31/08/2009 at 23:47

    Ah, there's no risk of me drink driving....

    or me and I am sure no-one would but some people feel uncomfortable not drinking when others are. I have spent my whole adult life dealing with people who insist I drink when the know I am driving. I am sure Alison has come across the same thing. It is a Scottish cultural problem that we can't see people not drinking so talk them into it.

    Best get a bus then everyone can relax and enjoy the weekend.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:48

    Best get a bus then everyone can relax and enjoy the weekend.

    Favoured option then

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:51

    Favoured option then

    Hang on! We havent considered hovercraft, skateboards or micro scooters et!

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:51

    Yet

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:51

    Hang on! We havent considered hovercraft, skateboards or micro scooters et!

    You can be in charge of that research then ;)

  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:52

    Two girls at my school were hit by a drunk driver walking home from a night out. One was killed. I just would never dream of drinking a drop.

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:53

    Perhaps before main travel options are considered we need to get numbers.

    The transfers hotel-circuit are one thing, the main travel could be influenced by some margin by how many are coming and where from. And it might take a bit of time to find out.

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:53

    Perhaps before main travel options are considered we need to get numbers.

    The transfers hotel-circuit are one thing, the main travel could be influenced by some margin by how many are coming and where from. And it might take a bit of time to find out.

    The race isnt even on next years calendar yet.

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:54

    Two girls at my school were hit by a drunk driver walking home from a night out. One was killed. I just would never dream of drinking a drop.

    oh no :(

    i wouldn't drink drive.. i'm not fussed by alcohol at all, so i'm perfectly happy not to drink, not sure i'd be able to drive a mini bus... someone mentioned you need to be over 21 and have had a licence for a few years.. which i wont have...

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:54

    Two girls at my school were hit by a drunk driver walking home from a night out. One was killed. I just would never dream of drinking a drop.

    :-(

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:56

    The race isnt even on next years calendar yet.

    Good point!

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:56

    The race isnt even on next years calendar yet.

    that's a good point... it will be though... hopefully.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:56

    Good point!

    It's on the unofficial provisional one for Aug 22nd

  • Alison31/08/2009 at 23:57

    Sorry, I didn't mean to put a downer on the mood. It was a long time ago, I didn't really know them well. It shook me up though.

  • Nick31/08/2009 at 23:57

    Two girls at my school were hit by a drunk driver walking home from a night out. One was killed. I just would never dream of drinking a drop.

    I dont have the slightes inclination to drive after i had been drinking, the 2 are divorced concepts to me. I hate driving on the road in this country enough as it is sober.

    Having lived in the countryside though it is obvious it happens and why.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:57

    The race isnt even on next years calendar yet.

    And if it's not on, I really don't think I'll be able to drive to Suzuka

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:57

    It's on the unofficial provisional one for Aug 22nd

    there is an unofficial provisional calender?...

  • lou31/08/2009 at 23:58

    And if it's not on, I really don't think I'll be able to drive to Suzuka

    how about a trip to silverstone??....

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:58

    there is an unofficial provisional calender?...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8228228.stm

  • me31/08/2009 at 23:58

    Best get a bus then everyone can relax and enjoy the weekend.

    that was my first option too. but giggles said the train was cheaper and easier. it basically goes door-to-door.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:58

    how about a trip to silverstone??....

    If it's on, definitely

  • me31/08/2009 at 23:58

    Mr C told me you got him drunk and he only went into the pub to get orange juice

    truth.

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:59

    that was my first option too. but giggles said the train was cheaper and easier. it basically goes door-to-door.

    But it's a road trip! :)

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:59

    Best get a bus then everyone can relax and enjoy the weekend.

    that was my first option too. but giggles said the train was cheaper and easier. it basically goes door-to-door.

    I think that was from hotel to circuit, rather than the main drive

  • Bassano Clapper31/08/2009 at 23:59

    Mr C told me you got him drunk and he only went into the pub to get orange juice

    truth.

    Look me in the eye and say that (at the bar) ;)

  • Pat W31/08/2009 at 23:59

    I think that was from hotel to circuit, rather than the main drive

    err, what Steven said not what the first option was

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:00

    It's on the unofficial provisional one for Aug 22nd

    South Korea isnt on that calendar, donnington is, and hockenheim doesnt want to be their.

    I have faith that it wont be the official one!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:00

    Anyway, we have a few weeks to think about it

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:00

    I think that was from hotel to circuit, rather than the main drive

    i can check but he said london.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:01

    Anyway, we have a few weeks to think about it

    :D

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:01

    oh no :(

    i wouldn't drink drive.. i'm not fussed by alcohol at all, so i'm perfectly happy not to drink, not sure i'd be able to drive a mini bus... someone mentioned you need to be over 21 and have had a licence for a few years.. which i wont have...

    Technicalities. You have a round thing in front of you, a few bits to rest your feet on and a stick to twiddle. If you can drive car you can drive a minibus

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:02

    i can check but he said london.

    But even if we get the train i expect we would stay several miles from the circuit.

    I cant imagine the local authority wont have buses running

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:02

    Are you wanting to do a live debrief from Spa? Do you need a lot of equipment? Too heavy to carry?

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:02

    But it's a road trip! :)

    that's true. i proper bus was my ideal choice. like a 52 seater. but we don't know anyone with a licence.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:02

    I dont have the slightes inclination to drive after i had been drinking, the 2 are divorced concepts to me. I hate driving on the road in this country enough as it is sober. Having lived in the countryside though it is obvious it happens and why.

    I grew up and still live in a rural area, it is part of the culture and very hard to avoid it. My rule is one with food and leave a break before setting off, short journey only, and none at all if passengers involved. Others close to me are somewhat less bothered.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:03

    Technicalities. You have a round thing in front of you, a few bits to rest your feet on and a stick to twiddle. If you can drive car you can drive a minibus

    haha i can't even properly drive a car yet! lol

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:03

    Are you wanting to do a live debrief from Spa? Do you need a lot of equipment? Too heavy to carry?

    ideally. we did f1 minute from a field outside silverstone and that was a year ago, so we oughta try and raise the game by next year.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:04

    Sorry, I didn't mean to put a downer on the mood. It was a long time ago, I didn't really know them well. It shook me up though.

    It does. Even if it is someone you don't like. I remember when I was 20 arriving at the local country pub at chucking out time for our usual lock in and meeting a guy I was at school with. He had been chucked out for behaving like a prat which was normal. I got a phone call from my mate saying that the local radio was reporting that he had cut a corner and stuck his car into the front of a truck. Killed him stone dead instantly.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:04

    that's true. i proper bus was my ideal choice. like a 52 seater. but we don't know anyone with a licence.

    is there enough interest to hire a 52 seater bus?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:04

    ideally. we did f1 minute from a field outside silverstone and that was a year ago, so we oughta try and raise the game by next year.

    so it's a hotel with wifi we need then?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:04

    is there enough interest to hire a 52 seater bus?

    Even if there were, it'd probably worthwhile chartering one with a driver

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:04

    And if it's not on, I really don't think I'll be able to drive to Suzuka

    At least they drive on the proper side of the road

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:04

    so it's a hotel with wifi we need then?

    ABSOLUTELY

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:05

    so it's a hotel with wifi we need then?

    at minimum :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:05

    I grew up and still live in a rural area, it is part of the culture and very hard to avoid it. My rule is one with food and leave a break before setting off, short journey only, and none at all if passengers involved. Others close to me are somewhat less bothered.

    The problem is their is zero public transport or taxi's in many areas, and if you want to go to a pub the only way to go is driving. inevitably people get drunk.

    The government really doesn't care though :(

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:05

    Even if there were, it'd probably worthwhile chartering one with a driver

    hahahaha :D yes.. you have a point...

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:05

    At least they drive on the proper side of the road

    Shame about most of the countries inbetween ;)

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:05

    is there enough interest to hire a 52 seater bus?

    I think there could be, there is a lot of interest so far, let's see how much there is when it is time to sign up for real.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:05

    so it's a hotel with wifi we need then?

    ABSOLUTELY

    this is going to be awesome :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:06

    that's true. i proper bus was my ideal choice. like a 52 seater. but we don't know anyone with a licence.

    We could get 52 hotel beds?

    Also can you rent them without a driver?

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:06

    Even if there were, it'd probably worthwhile chartering one with a driver

    ooh, you can do that? all the way to belgium and back for the weekend? what would they do when they get there?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:06

    that was my first option too. but giggles said the train was cheaper and easier. it basically goes door-to-door.

    Driving to Spa is easy. The motorway goes pretty close to it. It is also a lot easier if people are taking lots of stuff with them rather than having to carry it every time there is a change of train etc.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:06

    If it's on, definitely

    There will be a British GP at Silverstone in 2010. I am sure I said that before

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:06

    The problem is their is zero public transport or taxi's in many areas, and if you want to go to a pub the only way to go is driving. inevitably people get drunk.

    True. Luckily we have taxis and around town it doesn't seem to be that prominent. Go just a few miles out though..

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:07

    Shame about most of the countries inbetween ;)

    We can 'educate' them on route. they will soon switch over when they see our convoy coming ;)

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:07

    ooh, you can do that? all the way to belgium and back for the weekend? what would they do when they get there?

    Err, watch the race? ;)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:08

    that's true. i proper bus was my ideal choice. like a 52 seater. but we don't know anyone with a licence.

    We must have someone who can drive a bus

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:08

    Err, watch the race? ;)

    we're going to charter a driver who's an f1 fan?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:08

    ooh, you can do that? all the way to belgium and back for the weekend? what would they do when they get there?

    Errrm yeah... You think they'd trust you with their bus? They send the driver to look after it. The driver can do what he wants with his free time. You arrange a rate for the trip and tell them when the driver has to be around to drive you. You'd probably have to offer to buy him a race ticket ;)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:08

    ooh, you can do that? all the way to belgium and back for the weekend? what would they do when they get there?

    dad used to arrange golfing holidays to belgium and they would hire a driver and coach for the 4 days... in that case the driver would have meals with them (which were part of the holiday) and have a room in the hotel... not sure what he did other than drive them places though...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:09

    ooh, you can do that? all the way to belgium and back for the weekend? what would they do when they get there?

    Have Nachos? (with mayo)

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:09

    When it was first raised I thought it would be 2 or 3 cars with people from the UK. Apparently we now have an expedition! :-)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:09

    haha i can't even properly drive a car yet! lol

    You will be better by Spa. You should be just about ready for a test by then

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:09

    Errrm yeah... You think they'd trust you with their bus? They send the driver to look after it. The driver can do what he wants with his free time. You arrange a rate for the trip and tell them when the driver has to be around to drive you. You'd probably have to offer to buy him a race ticket ;)

    had no idea. assumed they gave you the keys like a minibus.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:09

    we're going to charter a driver who's an f1 fan?

    They dont call him 'Lewis for nuttin'!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:10

    we're going to charter a driver who's an f1 fan?

    If anyone can...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:10

    We must have someone who can drive a bus

    I could probably work out a train. Buses not so much

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:10

    Also can you rent them without a driver?

    Woul you rent a bus to 52 people who couldn't drive it?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:11

    had no idea. assumed they gave you the keys like a minibus.

    Nah. If it's a long trip, you need to take 2 drivers. I think you'd get away with 1 for Spa though. You get the driver. You normally have to pay for their board and meals if it's overnight.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:11

    ooh, you can do that? all the way to belgium and back for the weekend? what would they do when they get there?

    Yes. Bus companies do that all the time. I know people who have gone skiing for a week like that.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:11

    had no idea. assumed they gave you the keys like a minibus.

    Puh-lease ;)

    Me & Giggles, with a massive bus?

    We'd end up remaking Summer Holiday

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:11

    we're going to charter a driver who's an f1 fan?

    well most people know of lewis hamilton... so it can't be too hard... lol ;)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:11

    Nah. If it's a long trip, you need to take 2 drivers. I think you'd get away with 1 for Spa though. You get the driver. You normally have to pay for their board and meals if it's overnight.

    Train seems to make a lot more sense

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:12

    Nah. If it's a long trip, you need to take 2 drivers. I think you'd get away with 1 for Spa though. You get the driver. You normally have to pay for their board and meals if it's overnight.

    This would probably be Thurs - Mon/Tues...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:12

    we're going to charter a driver who's an f1 fan?

    Drivers are used to hanging around in their buses or local cafes for hours on end. They do it all the time

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:12

    This would probably be Thurs - Mon/Tues...

    I didn't doubt that

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:12

    Woul you rent a bus to 52 people who couldn't drive it?

    :P :D

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:12

    This would probably be Thurs - Mon/Tues...

    I don't mean like long in terms of days. I mean long stints of driving. There are a lot of laws about compulsory breaks and rest time.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:13

    Train seems to make a lot more sense

    But if we get a bus maybe we could get all the f1 journos and the bbc to join in.

    I bet EJ and Jake could lead a right good sing song!

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:13

    This would probably be Thurs - Mon/Tues...

    since going to Valencia i have this urge to walk a track... can we do that with Spa?...

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:13

    Nah. If it's a long trip, you need to take 2 drivers. I think you'd get away with 1 for Spa though. You get the driver. You normally have to pay for their board and meals if it's overnight.

    wha? that suddenly seems expensive. at least the train comes with a driver.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:13

    since going to Valencia i have this urge to walk a track... can we do that with Spa?...

    Thursday or Monday, possibly

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:13

    had no idea. assumed they gave you the keys like a minibus.

    Puh-lease ;)

    Me & Giggles, with a massive bus?

    We'd end up remaking Summer Holiday

    hahahahaha :D :D :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:13

    We'd end up remaking Summer Holiday

    heeeh! we're getting a red bus?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:14

    heeeh! we're getting a red bus?

    It would HAVE to be

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:14

    wha? that suddenly seems expensive. at least the train comes with a driver.

    lol :) we could always take cars... or hire a mini bus... depends on how many people i suppose...

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:14

    heeeh! we're getting a red bus?

    I think Routemasters are going pretty cheap these days

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:14

    since going to Valencia i have this urge to walk a track... can we do that with Spa?...

    I would expect its a security concern... but you can drive monaco the morning before the race so maybe?

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:14

    since going to Valencia i have this urge to walk a track... can we do that with Spa?...

    Possibly on Monday? Maybe even Sunday evening.

    I've only done one race and that was on public roads that were open at 7..

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:14

    Thursday or Monday, possibly

    wohoo! :) if we walk it on thursday we could meet jenson...*cough* i mean...not that i'm bothered...

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:15

    since going to Valencia i have this urge to walk a track... can we do that with Spa?...

    apparently people were running it every night.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:15

    wha? that suddenly seems expensive. at least the train comes with a driver.

    Spa isn't that far, one driver would be fine

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:15

    We'd end up remaking Summer Holiday

    I suppose once we are on that side of the channel there is no reason not to add a few miles to the trip. We could go over the Alps to Monaco and drive into Italy.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:15

    apparently people were running it every night.

    But they were paddock and pit pass holders though....

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:15

    apparently people were running it every night.

    They work in F1 though, so they are already in the paddock... not sure the plebs will get through the fence

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:16

    Spa isn't that far, one driver would be fine

    how long does it take to get a bus licence?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:16

    apparently people were running it every night.

    awesome :) not that i would dream of running it... *shudder*

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:16

    I suppose once we are on that side of the channel there is no reason not to add a few miles to the trip. We could go over the Alps to Monaco and drive into Italy.

    Amy wants to do monza as well whilst she is over i think...

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:16

    wha? that suddenly seems expensive. at least the train comes with a driver.

    Between the lot of you though.... If you fill the bus, the cost of 3 nights in a hotel isn't a lot split 50 ways!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:16

    I suppose once we are on that side of the channel there is no reason not to add a few miles to the trip. We could go over the Alps to Monaco and drive into Italy.

    Now you're just being silly, Monaco is in May

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:16

    how long does it take to get a bus licence?

    Can't be more than a year?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:16

    how long does it take to get a bus licence?

    Depends on the driver :P

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:16

    Amy wants to do monza as well whilst she is over i think...

    2 week road trip to Monza!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:16

    Train seems to make a lot more sense

    But then you are hauling all your stuff every time you move rather than chucking it on a bus and forgetting about it till you arrive. You are also reliant on public transport when there are thousands making exactly the same journey at the same time.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:16

    But they were paddock and pit pass holders though....

    gotya. bugger.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:17

    how long does it take to get a bus licence?

    The best way would be to pretend you wanted to work for a bus company, get them to train you and quit once you'd passed.....

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:17

    I suppose once we are on that side of the channel there is no reason not to add a few miles to the trip. We could go over the Alps to Monaco and drive into Italy.

    going to monaco would be expensive... plus i may die of happiness....

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:17

    2 week road trip to Monza!

    If we e-mail bernie maybe he can make them back-back races for us?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:17

    Now you're just being silly, Monaco is in May

    :D hehe

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:17

    If we e-mail bernie maybe he can make them back-back races for us?

    Email Ari instead, he likes us

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:17

    I don't mean like long in terms of days. I mean long stints of driving. There are a lot of laws about compulsory breaks and rest time.

    Spa can only be about 3 or 4 hours from the channel. My mate and I did Calais to Munich in about 12 hours

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:18

    I'm sorry are you honestly suggesting taking bus driving lessons would be cheaper than just getting a bus complete with driver?? Hahaha. I'd pa to watch you learn :P

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:18

    But then you are hauling all your stuff every time you move rather than chucking it on a bus and forgetting about it till you arrive. You are also reliant on public transport when there are thousands making exactly the same journey at the same time.

    you put forward a good case.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:18

    I'm sorry are you honestly suggesting taking bus driving lessons would be cheaper than just getting a bus complete with driver?? Hahaha. I'd pa to watch you learn :P

    i could live comment it :)

    it's only a bigger version of a minibus. it hasn't even got a trailer.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:18

    since going to Valencia i have this urge to walk a track... can we do that with Spa?...

    Do you know how steep those hills are? A lot of the F1 journalists now run the track in the evenings. Apparently some of them suffered greatly at Spa.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:18

    Email Ari instead, he likes us

    i'd ask jules IF SHE WOULD WRITE BACK TO ME!!!... not that i've been checking the post every morning or anything.... :(

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 00:19

    yay! Trip talk! For me this is quite literally the trip of a lifetime so im so excited! I am glad i still have a year to talk someone into doing the spa monza double with me :D

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:19

    i could live comment it :)

    hehe not sure that would help you learn how to drive a bus...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:19

    wha? that suddenly seems expensive. at least the train comes with a driver.

    It's not if you have about 40 people. The driver cost is about 5% extra on your own costs.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:19

    But then you are hauling all your stuff every time you move rather than chucking it on a bus and forgetting about it till you arrive. You are also reliant on public transport when there are thousands making exactly the same journey at the same time.

    you put forward a good case.

    plus I think Amy wants to do the whole border crossing over land under water thing

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:20

    it's only a bigger version of a minibus. it hasn't even got a trailer.

    Could take two minibuses?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:20

    Spa can only be about 3 or 4 hours from the channel. My mate and I did Calais to Munich in about 12 hours

    Thats pretty slow! :P

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:20

    Do you know how steep those hills are? A lot of the F1 journalists now run the track in the evenings. Apparently some of them suffered greatly at Spa.

    no not really... but we would have fun finding out :)

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:20

    plus I think Amy wants to do the whole border crossing over land under water thing

    Sidepodcast without Borders?

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:20

    "If you wish to drive a bus or small charter vehicle for hire or reward purposes, you will need to apply for an 'F' extension endorsement on your current licence."

    doesn't sound hard.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:20

    wohoo! :) if we walk it on thursday we could meet jenson...*cough* i mean...not that i'm bothered...

    Alex's box said Jenson was mine.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:21

    They work in F1 though, so they are already in the paddock... not sure the plebs will get through the fence

    Even if we say we are from sidepodcast?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:21

    yay! Trip talk! For me this is quite literally the trip of a lifetime so im so excited! I am glad i still have a year to talk someone into doing the spa monza double with me :D

    Once you get the traveling bug you wont be able to stop! :P

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:21

    Amy wants to do monza as well whilst she is over i think...

    That just added a few quid to the cost ofthe bus

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:22

    "If you wish to drive a bus or small charter vehicle for hire or reward purposes, you will need to apply for an 'F' extension endorsement on your current licence."

    Hire & reqard sounds like a licenced mini cab. We wouldn't be charging each other. It's a non-profit trip

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:22

    doesn't sound hard.

    Famous last words?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:22

    Even if we say we are from sidepodcast?

    what about if we say we are from sideposcast? ;)

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 00:22

    #57 - Steven Roy said:

    I never gave anyone a drink that didn’t want it

    Mr C told me you got him drunk and he only went into the pub to get orange juice

    The name of the drink BC gave Mr. C is called a Screwdriver. It is a combination of Orange Juice and Vodka...

    BC is evil....

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:22

    Alex's box said Jenson was mine.

    :(...

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:22

    Famous last words?

    http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/yourlicence/9557.asp

    i don't really understand what's required. that can't be a good start?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:23

    That just added a few quid to the cost ofthe bus

    And that's just for Italian insurance and excess

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:23

    doesn't sound hard.

    so how are you going to tell christine you are going to learn how to drive a bus?...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:23

    That just added a few quid to the cost ofthe bus

    Monza is just a short march across the continent, I am sure we could walk it quite quickly. We just need someone with a truck licence to carry the bags...

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:23

    Hire & reqard sounds like a licenced mini cab. We wouldn't be charging each other. It's a non-profit trip

    I've read what they think that counts as. If you take a contribution towards petrol they class your trip in that category....

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:23

    it's only a bigger version of a minibus. it hasn't even got a trailer.

    Exactly and is not very fast. Plus if you crash into someone else you are not going to damage it.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:23

    #57 - Steven Roy said:

    I never gave anyone a drink that didn’t want it

    Mr C told me you got him drunk and he only went into the pub to get orange juice

    The name of the drink BC gave Mr. C is called a Screwdriver. It is a combination of Orange Juice and Vodka...

    BC is evil....

    He asked for it, wasn't my suggestion :)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:23

    i'd ask jules IF SHE WOULD WRITE BACK TO ME!!!... not that i've been checking the post every morning or anything.... :(

    Did you write to her?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:24
  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:24

    i don't really understand what's required. that can't be a good start?

    in Western Australia?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:24

    Could take two minibuses?

    Tow rope?

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:24

    That website's Australian?

    good start!!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:24

    That website's Australian?

    I'm NOT driving to Melbourne, I have to save my energy for the Suzuka drive

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:25

    I'm NOT driving to Melbourne, I have to save my energy for the Suzuka drive

    i think maybe i'll sit near that back and pay what's required. i can't even google the solution.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:25

    Thats pretty slow! :P

    We were doing a trade show and had a lot of stuff with us. Glasgow to Munich in two days was OK

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:25

    Did you write to her?

    yep, before i went on holiday. sorry i didn't send it to you in the end. i put a draft copy on dad's desk. he looked at it said it was fine and that was that really..i suppose 3 weeks isn't too long... maybe she'll write back soon?..

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:25

    i don't really understand what's required. that can't be a good start?

    I dont understand why you are looking up AUSTRALIAN LICENSING LAWS!

    :D :D :D hehehehehehe

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:26

    I've already looked all this up! The rules for driving minibuses and buses are much stricter on the continent than they are in this country,

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:26

    "If you wish to drive a bus or small charter vehicle for hire or reward purposes, you will need to apply for an 'F' extension endorsement on your current licence."

    You need a PCV license

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:26

    I've already looked all this up! The rules for driving minibuses and buses are much stricter on the continent than they are in this country,

    fine, i concede it's a silly idea :(

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:26

    Once you get the traveling bug you wont be able to stop! :P

    We would only need the driver to take a toilet break and we would not need to stop. We must be able to make a bus move between us.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:27

    You need a PCV license

    You indeed do. My vote is still with pretend you want to work for Stagecoach and get them to pay for it....

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:27

    fine, i concede it's a silly idea :(

    aw :( i was looking forward to you learning to drive a bus....

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:27

    Alex's box said Jenson was mine.

    :(...

    Blame Alex or the box or Christine

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:27

    aw :( i was looking forward to you learning to drive a bus....

    Maybe Mrc could do it anyway?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:28

    fine, i concede it's a silly idea :(

    Awwww no! Don't lose your enthusiasm :(

    I'm not sure I'd trust you to drive if you don't know what continent you're on though :P

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:28

    i think maybe i'll sit near that back and pay what's required. i can't even google the solution.

    You can compere the beer tap (.com?)

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:28

    You indeed do. My vote is still with pretend you want to work for Stagecoach and get them to pay for it....

    wouldn't they get a bit suspicious that i couldn't turn up 9-5 like everybody else?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:28

    Blame Alex or the box or Christine

    it'sa silly box anyway....

    ;)

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:28

    I'm not sure I'd trust you to drive if you don't know what continent you're on though :P

    :D

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:29

    wouldn't they get a bit suspicious that i couldn't turn up 9-5 like everybody else?

    Maybe you do need to do it in australia...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:29

    yep, before i went on holiday. sorry i didn't send it to you in the end. i put a draft copy on dad's desk. he looked at it said it was fine and that was that really..i suppose 3 weeks isn't too long... maybe she'll write back soon?..

    No problem. I am just glad you wrote.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:29

    Can we get a private train?

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 00:29

    #92 - Steven Roy said:

    oh no

    i wouldn’t drink drive.. i’m not fussed by alcohol at all, so i’m perfectly happy not to drink, not sure i’d be able to drive a mini bus… someone mentioned you need to be over 21 and have had a licence for a few years.. which i wont have…

    Technicalities. You have a round thing in front of you, a few bits to rest your feet on and a stick to twiddle. If you can drive car you can drive a minibus

    Lou's driving problem is a common one among pilots.... Too much "right rudder"... :P .

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:30

    fine, i concede it's a silly idea :(

    Maybe you should learn to fly. Can we get a 52 seat helicopter?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:30

    Can we get a private train?

    Is Ivor an SPC fan?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:30

    aw :( i was looking forward to you learning to drive a bus....

    You can do that if you like

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:30

    No problem. I am just glad you wrote.

    :) i'm pleased i did too. am hoping darren heath emails me back soon too... i may have emailed him the other day :)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:31

    You can do that if you like

    ahah am going to have enough problems doing Alevels and passing my driving test as it is...

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:31

    :) i'm pleased i did too. am hoping darren heath emails me back soon too... i may have emailed him the other day :)

    ooh, he emailed me. but he wasn't very nice.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:32

    Can we get a private train?

    Too risky. As soon as someone stops speaking at the end of an announcement Mr C will kill him off like Ringo

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:32

    In all honesty, I don't object to taking a minibus test. That really isn't strenuous. I do a lot of volunteering, it'd probably be quite useful!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:32

    I suppose since we're coming from different places, we could fly to Brussels and meet there

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:33

    I suppose since we're coming from different places, we could fly to Brussels and meet there

    Road Trip! :)

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:33

    In all honesty, I don't object to taking a minibus test. That really isn't strenuous. I do a lot of volunteering, it'd probably be quite useful!

    i swear i didn't take one before? have they tightened up the rules?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:33

    Can we pool the engineering and aviation knowledge here to build us a flying contraptionto get us there, possibly out of 2Ltr Bottles?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:33

    :) i'm pleased i did too. am hoping darren heath emails me back soon too... i may have emailed him the other day :)

    You should have a word with Stuart. Darren Heath must get loads of people contacting him and Stuart has seen your photos. He also knows lots of F1 photographers.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:33

    ooh, he emailed me. but he wasn't very nice.

    oh noes! :(

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:33

    ooh, he emailed me. but he wasn't very nice.

    Was he jealous of page 22?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:33

    i swear i didn't take one before? have they tightened up the rules?

    Britain don't need it. They do in France and Belgium.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:34

    i swear i didn't take one before? have they tightened up the rules?

    I think you are good up to 15 seatson a normal licence?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:34

    Can we pool the engineering and aviation knowledge here to build us a flying contraptionto get us there, possibly out of 2Ltr Bottles?

    I have speed tape

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:34

    You should have a word with Stuart. Darren Heath must get loads of people contacting him and Stuart has seen your photos. He also knows lots of F1 photographers.

    i never seem to be around when Stuart is around :(

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:34

    Was he jealous of page 22?

    I think he realised the pic he gave the BBC was rubbish

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:34

    I tried to look up a quote for a big bus (and driver :P) but it's asking for a LOT of information!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:35

    i swear i didn't take one before? have they tightened up the rules?

    You can drive I think 12 people in a minibus so long as it is not for profit

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:35

    I tried to look up a quote for a big bus (and driver :P) but it's asking for a LOT of information!

    Can you just link them to the wiki?

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:35

    oh noes! :(

    you may have been away.

    i pointed out that the bbc had cropped his lovely pic and suggested it screwed up his "rule of thirds" explanation. he replied and said he still stood by it (even though he can't and he's wrong).

    i asked him for a diagram explaining how he saw "thirds" and thus far he's declined to respond.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:36

    ooh, he emailed me. but he wasn't very nice.

    Was he jealous of page 22?

    :D :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:36

    Can you just link them to the wiki?

    :)

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:36

    Britain don't need it. They do in France and Belgium.

    got ya. we went to ireland too.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:36

    I think he realised the pic he gave the BBC was rubbish

    Oh yes. The thirds thing. He did it right then someone at the BBC cropped the pic.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:36

    I think you are good up to 15 seatson a normal licence?

    that's what it was.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:36

    I have speed tape

    so do i. albeit less than you.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:37

    i asked him for a diagram explaining how he saw "thirds" and thus far he's declined to respond.

    Oh no! Maths

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:37

    Oh yes. The thirds thing. He did it right then someone at the BBC cropped the pic.

    Even if it was right originaly it still wasnt a good photo

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:37

    you may have been away.

    ooh. i remember the photo, didn't know about the response though :(

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:37

    got ya. we went to ireland too.

    Rules don't apply there. Just avoid the tractors & horse and carts

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:38

    got ya. we went to ireland too.

    I hope you're not the navigator!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:38

    I hope you're not the navigator!

    I mis read that, as long as our trip to Spa doesnt go through ireland you can navigate!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:39

    #sidepodspace

    NASA have said that the routine surveys of the shuttles heat shield has shown that there are no problems that would affect it during re-entry.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:40

    ooh. i remember the photo, didn't know about the response though :(

    "I appreciate your point but still believe the position of the car illustrates the 'rule' and certainly makes sense."

    except it doesn't. am giving him a bit longer and then i'll blog "basic mathematic skills for darren".

    thing is. the text he's provided is wrong and confusing to anyone trying to learn. e.g. me.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:40

    I hope you're not the navigator!

    christine navigated :)

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:41

    I mis read that, as long as our trip to Spa doesnt go through ireland you can navigate!

    Australia anyone?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:41

    thing is. the text he's provided is wrong and confusing to anyone trying to learn. e.g. me.

    I think I know the pic you're talking about. Maybe he hasn't even looked at the cropped version

    Either way, rule of thirds should be eaay to spot & explain

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:41

    Australia anyone?

    I am currently considering the job on their site as an assistant harbour master in WA

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:42

    christine navigated :)

    [Bassano would like to stay off the naughty step tinight]

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:42

    So am I right in understanding this then.... in the UK it is ok to drive a 15-seater, but you need to pass another test in France/Belgium? Or is it a paperwork thing?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:42

    christine navigated :)

    She has been on boats so she must know what she is doing

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:43

    Australia anyone?

    It would save Amy a plane fair and I am sure a few of the Aussies would jump on

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:44

    So am I right in understanding this then.... in the UK it is ok to drive a 15-seater, but you need to pass another test in France/Belgium? Or is it a paperwork thing?

    It's probably a test regarding mayo & chips in truckie cafes

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 00:44

    #202 - Bassano Clapper said:

    #57 – Steven Roy said:

    I never gave anyone a drink that didn’t want it

    Mr C told me you got him drunk and he only went into the pub to get orange juice

    The name of the drink BC gave Mr. C is called a Screwdriver. It is a combination of Orange Juice and Vodka…

    BC is evil….

    He asked for it, wasn’t my suggestion

    He asked for an Orange Juice and you added Vodka to the mix !...

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:44

    So am I right in understanding this then.... in the UK it is ok to drive a 15-seater, but you need to pass another test in France/Belgium? Or is it a paperwork thing?

    You need to pass a test to drive a minibus on the continent. However, the DVLA do provide the appropriate test, you don't need to go to France to do it :P

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:45

    Whatever way we are getting there, I think an advance meetup in a mutually agreed location is in order, rather than rocking up and heading off straight away. Say a hotel in London (or somewhere cheaper).

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:45

    "I appreciate your point but still believe the position of the car illustrates the 'rule' and certainly makes sense."

    oooo.... i wonder whether he actually checked the bbc site? or just assumed that it was cropped a bit and left it at that... i can't remember what it looked like exactly, but maybe it just didn't show the rule of thirds as clearly as it could have done? the 'rules' of photography are basically made to be broken though... tis strange... you would have thought he would have spoken to the bbc or something...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:45

    He asked for an Orange Juice and you added Vodka to the mix !...

    An easy mistake to make. Especially of the bar man was Russian. Water in Russian is voda.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:45

    You need to pass a test to drive a minibus on the continent. However, the DVLA do provide the appropriate test, you don't need to go to France to do it :P

    It's a practical test but it's not that hard if you're an okay car driver.... I know a lot of people that have done it.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:45

    You need to pass a test to drive a minibus on the continent. However, the DVLA do provide the appropriate test, you don't need to go to France to do it :P

    Ah good :-)

    I think taking a test especially is a bit overboard.. We've got a while to work it all out anyway.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:46

    Whatever way we are getting there, I think an advance meetup in a mutually agreed location is in order, rather than rocking up and heading off straight away. Say a hotel in London (or somewhere cheaper).

    as in all go to one place and leave together?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:46

    An easy mistake to make. Especially of the bar man was Russian. Water in Russian is voda.

    That must've been it. It was a strange bar, the gravity had a very odd effect on the fish & chips

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:46

    Oh, apparently I have to go to work in the morning so I need sleep... goodnight all.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:47

    oooo.... i wonder whether he actually checked the bbc site?

    i linked to it in the original mail. i assumed that he didn't know and was just making him aware the beeb were making him look silly.

    i didn't expect the response i got.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:47

    Ah good :-)

    I think taking a test especially is a bit overboard.. We've got a while to work it all out anyway.

    The more I think about logistics, the more driving my car down seems like a good idea!!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:47

    It's a practical test but it's not that hard if you're an okay car driver.... I know a lot of people that have done it.

    I can drive a minibus around airports, I'd be up for it

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 00:47

    as in all go to one place and leave together?

    Yes. Or it could be fun to meet up and go, just thought it would be nice to have a hello drink.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:47

    G'night Pat

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 00:48

    between races i am planning a whirlwind trip to 5 countries, which i can do alone, but i want someone to hold my hand in monza so the tifosi dont eat me :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:48

    Yes. Or it could be fun to meet up and go, just thought it would be nice to have a hello drink.

    There'll be lots of time for hellos

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 00:48

    #230 - Steven Roy said:

    fine, i concede it’s a silly idea

    Maybe you should learn to fly. Can we get a 52 seat helicopter?

    That Russian Helicopter should be pretty decent size and price wise. That Mil-26 I think is the model name (Western one) Can not remeber the NATO reporting name for it... starts with an "H" although....

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:48

    That must've been it. It was a strange bar, the gravity had a very odd effect on the fish & chips

    I heard about the localised gravity fields. Must have been scary

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:48

    Night Pat

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:48

    i didn't expect the response i got.

    this is what i sent back btw:

    "darren. appreciate the response. i think i must misunderstand the rule

    then. by your explanation on the bbc site, lewis is not where you

    say he should be. could perhaps overlay a sample 'thirds' grid by way

    of example?"

    as yet. nothing.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:49

    Yes. Or it could be fun to meet up and go, just thought it would be nice to have a hello drink.

    for me that would totally depend on what mode of transport we are getting... if it's the train it would be silly for me to go up on the train to london to then come back on the train and pass my town :P seeing as i live about 30mins away from dover/ 20mins away from folkestone as it is ;) awesome idea for everyone else though!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:50

    There'll be lots of time for hellos

    We will all be trapped on a bus for hours.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:50

    Oh, apparently I have to go to work in the morning so I need sleep... goodnight all.

    night!

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 00:50

    #236 - Steven Roy said:

    Can we get a private train?

    Too risky. As soon as someone stops speaking at the end of an announcement Mr C will kill him off like Ringo

    :D :D :D

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:52

    as yet. nothing.

    oh.. :( i'd love to be able to come up with loads of excuses for him... maybe it's been busy in the f1 photography world?... would have been nice for him to respond though :(

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:52

    I do like the idea of train. Trains are great.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 00:53

    between races i am planning a whirlwind trip to 5 countries, which i can do alone, but i want someone to hold my hand in monza so the tifosi dont eat me :D

    Safety plan: wear red and talk like flav?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:53

    I do like the idea of train. Trains are great.

    trains journeys are awesome :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:53

    oh.. :( i'd love to be able to come up with loads of excuses for him... maybe it's been busy in the f1 photography world?... would have been nice for him to respond though :(

    i was pleased he responded at all. i was disappointed with what i read. the bbc shouldn't be cropping his pictures either though. it's not like the man is sending them in an unusual format.

    just put them up as they are.

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:54

    I do like the idea of train. Trains are great.

    eurostar has wifi. i don't think busses do?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:54

    Oh but the Chunnel. Do I have to do the Chunnel?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:54

    just put them up as they are.

    Especially when the open in a separate window

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 00:55

    eurostar has wifi. i don't think busses do?

    Hahaha no! But who are you going to talk to....

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:55

    eurostar has wifi. i don't think busses do?

    Are we not doing the finnish rally as well then?

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:55

    Especially when the open in a separate window

    quite! very odd.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:55

    just put them up as they are.

    you have a point, i assume cropping them takes extra effort... why bother, when the photos are lovely as they are, they don't need to be changed :(

  • me01/09/2009 at 00:55

    Hahaha no! But who are you going to talk to....

    bugger.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:56

    Oh but the Chunnel. Do I have to do the Chunnel?

    tis only around 20mins... plus i'll be there, hating it as much as you..

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:56

    Hahaha no! But who are you going to talk to....

    bugger.

    Qik stream, of course

  • gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 00:57

    *sigh

    the hazards of loaning pc gear to neighbors include, but are not limited to:

    miscellaneous liquids finding their way into components

    eager clicks on 'virus warning' boxes

    droppage (not the dropio kind, either)

    sudden decreases in free storage

    etc, etc. worth free internet via wireless? debating.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:57

    trains journeys are awesome :D

    Depends what the journey is. I did 25 hours on a train once. It became a little boring after two hours

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:57

    Hahaha no! But who are you going to talk to....

    what happens if there is a breaking news story or something? we need to know about it :P plus if there is wifi no doubt we'll be talking to each other (just like the sidepodmeetup in london lol)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:58

    Oh but the Chunnel. Do I have to do the Chunnel?

    You can use the ferry. The chunnel is OK though. I like boats though

  • lou01/09/2009 at 00:58

    Depends what the journey is. I did 25 hours on a train once. It became a little boring after two hours

    25hours! :( this makes me sad... that must have been very dull.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 00:58

    Depends what the journey is. I did 25 hours on a train once. It became a little boring after two hours

    Adelaide to Perth becomes quite boring after the 2nd day

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 00:58

    Hahaha no! But who are you going to talk to....

    We will all be on the same bus chatting to each other like this

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 00:59

    I think you guys should say Stuff it to Spa can come to Montreal...

  • gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 01:00

    I think you guys should say Stuff it to Spa can come to Montreal...

    stuff...aubi dhabi?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 01:00

    You can use the ferry. The chunnel is OK though. I like boats though

    if we go by bus it may be easier to go via the ferry, cause i think that would count as part of the compulsory rest bus drivers are meant to have every few hours....seeing as it's longer than the channel tunnel crossing...

  • gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 01:00

    ohh wait yes Montreal. cheaper for me. no intl plane tickets required. me likey

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:01

    25hours! :( this makes me sad... that must have been very dull.

    It was from the middle of the Ukraine to Moscow two weeks before Xmas with 3 feet of snow on the ground. Most of the journey was one big pine forest.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 01:01

    We will all be on the same bus chatting to each other like this

    This better be a joke.... How would one poor connection support all these computers? :(

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:01

    ohh wait yes Montreal. cheaper for me. no intl plane tickets required. me likey

    I know some good bars there & the circuit is a tube ride from town

  • lou01/09/2009 at 01:02

    It was from the middle of the Ukraine to Moscow two weeks before Xmas with 3 feet of snow on the ground. Most of the journey was one big pine forest.

    wow..

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:02

    if we go by bus it may be easier to go via the ferry, cause i think that would count as part of the compulsory rest bus drivers are meant to have every few hours....seeing as it's longer than the channel tunnel crossing...

    And everyone gets a meal without us stopping specially

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:03

    #326 - gravit8ed said:

    I think you guys should say Stuff it to Spa can come to Montreal…

    stuff…aubi dhabi?

    "Stuff it to Spa" Really. Have a real vacation. Europe is in your own backyard. Go overseas - Transaltantic.

    As to Aubi Dhabi, well, I hate to say it, but "Arabic" is a more common language in Montreal than English is...

  • lou01/09/2009 at 01:03

    And everyone gets a meal without us stopping specially

    the meals on the ferry aren't always that nice... depends if you want to go into the proper restaurant bit i suppose and if it's open... lol :D but it makes sense

  • gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 01:04

    "Stuff it to Spa" Really. Have a real vacation. Europe is in your own backyard. Go overseas - Transaltantic.

    would love to. cant aford transatlantic at this point. could actually drive to cananda from florida

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:04

    the meals on the ferry aren't always that nice... depends if you want to go into the proper restaurant bit i suppose and if it's open... lol :D but it makes sense

    I have a feeling the boys will be playing VirtuaRacer in the arcade

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:05

    the meals on the ferry aren't always that nice... depends if you want to go into the proper restaurant bit i suppose and if it's open... lol :D but it makes sense

    I always found them to be OK but I haven't been on a channel ferry in quite a few years

  • lou01/09/2009 at 01:06

    I have a feeling the boys will be playing VirtuaRacer in the arcade

    hehe i love that game. my best friend and i were playing it at the airport and i won... every time :D hehe to be fair, she knows nothing about racing...

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:06

    Tell you what. Grab a Concordski (Tu-144) and thor Lou in the Captain's seat... You can have Lunch in London / Gatwick and Lou will have you in centre-ville Montreal for breakfest that same day...

    I will be pushing tin from the other direction...(west to east)

  • gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 01:07

    oy fighting some trojan BS on this pc - only loaned it out for two days too.

    /me is far too kind to be loaning out my backup pc gear

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 01:07

    oi, stop trying to ruin my holiday, europe isnt in my backyard! ;)

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:08

    Tell you what. Grab a Concordski (Tu-144) and thor Lou in the Captain's seat... You can have Lunch in London / Gatwick and Lou will have you in centre-ville Montreal for breakfest that same day...

    I will be pushing tin from the other direction...(west to east)

    There's a proper Concorde outside my hangar, I'll see if I can get it for the weekend. We may need to chip in for the deposit

  • lou01/09/2009 at 01:08

    oi, stop trying to ruin my holiday, europe isnt in my backyard! ;)

    haha :)

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:08

    #336 - gravit8ed said:

    “Stuff it to Spa” Really. Have a real vacation. Europe is in your own backyard. Go overseas – Transaltantic.

    would love to. cant aford transatlantic at this point. could actually drive to cananda from florida

    Should be what 22 hours plus of driving from FLA to Montreal?

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:13

    #343 - Bassano Clapper said:

    Tell you what. Grab a Concordski (Tu-144) and thor Lou in the Captain’s seat… You can have Lunch in London / Gatwick and Lou will have you in centre-ville Montreal for breakfest that same day…

    I will be pushing tin from the other direction…(west to east)

    There’s a proper Concorde outside my hangar, I’ll see if I can get it for the weekend. We may need to chip in for the deposit

    There you go. Instead of god knows how many hours to get to Spa, in half the time you can go to Montreal, and in terms of local time, you gain at least three hours... enough time to have two breakfests on the same day and maybe two lunches...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:15

    There’s a proper Concorde outside my hangar, I’ll see if I can get it for the weekend. We may need to chip in for the deposit

    We could not go straight to Belgium in that though. We would need to head out into the Atlantic to do Mach 2 first

  • lou01/09/2009 at 01:15

    Okay, time for me to get some sleep. Night all x

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:16

    We could not go straight to Belgium in that though. We would need to head out into the Atlantic to do Mach 2 first

    Bay of Biscay or transatlantic u-turn is obligatory, even on a test flight

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:16

    Night Lou

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:21

    #347 - Steven Roy said:

    There’s a proper Concorde outside my hangar, I’ll see if I can get it for the weekend. We may need to chip in for the deposit

    We could not go straight to Belgium in that though. We would need to head out into the Atlantic to do Mach 2 first

    Steven, as much as Spa is a great track, after you watch the race, what is there to do? I offer a race track which is on a Island in the middle of a river which is in the middle of Canada's only decent comsopolitan city. The track is two subway stops away from the major subway transfer point and from there there's hotels, bars (pubs), restaurtants, supermarkets galore!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:22

    Night Lou.

    Enjoy our driving lesson

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:23

    Bay of Biscay or transatlantic u-turn is obligatory, even on a test flight

    Can we fit afterburners just to go a little bit faster than anyone else has?

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:23

    #351 - 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F1 said:

    #347 – Steven Roy said:

    There’s a proper Concorde outside my hangar, I’ll see if I can get it for the weekend. We may need to chip in for the deposit

    We could not go straight to Belgium in that though. We would need to head out into the Atlantic to do Mach 2 first

    Steven, as much as Spa is a great track, after you watch the race, what is there to do? I offer a race track which is on a Island in the middle of a river which is in the middle of Canada’s only decent comsopolitan city. The track is two subway stops away from the major subway transfer point and from there there’s hotels, bars (pubs), restaurtants, supermarkets galore!

    And I am pretty sure there wireless hotspots galore!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:24

    And I am pretty sure there wireless hotspots galore!

    The petrol costs involved are a little prohibitive for most though ;)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:24

    Steven, as much as Spa is a great track, after you watch the race, what is there to do? I offer a race track which is on a Island in the middle of a river which is in the middle of Canada's only decent comsopolitan city. The track is two subway stops away from the major subway transfer point and from there there's hotels, bars (pubs), restaurtants, supermarkets galore!

    We have a bus at our disposal and Europe to play with. We could be in Paris in 3 or 4 hours and trust me Paris is fun

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:24

    Can we fit afterburners just to go a little bit faster than anyone else has?

    Already installed, they call it re-heat. That's what the purple glow is

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:24

    #353 - Steven Roy said:

    Bay of Biscay or transatlantic u-turn is obligatory, even on a test flight

    Can we fit afterburners just to go a little bit faster than anyone else has?

    There is no afterburner on a Concorde. It actually cruises along at supersonic speeds!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:26

    There is no afterburner on a Concorde. It actually cruises along at supersonic speeds!

    Reheat is used on take-off and, I think, to push it over the supersonic barrier

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:26

    #356 - Steven Roy said:

    Steven, as much as Spa is a great track, after you watch the race, what is there to do? I offer a race track which is on a Island in the middle of a river which is in the middle of Canada’s only decent comsopolitan city. The track is two subway stops away from the major subway transfer point and from there there’s hotels, bars (pubs), restaurtants, supermarkets galore!

    We have a bus at our disposal and Europe to play with. We could be in Paris in 3 or 4 hours and trust me Paris is fun

    How fun is a place that offers guided tours of the local sewer system?

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 01:27

    im with steven. Europe!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:27

    Reheat is used on take-off and, I think, to push it over the supersonic barrier

    Can we do a fuel dump then light it. Of course that won't looks as spectacular from inside the plane I suppose.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 01:27

    im with steven. Europe!

    Europe rules!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:28

    Can we do a fuel dump then light it. Of course that won't looks as spectacular from inside the plane I suppose.

    Hmm, not a good track record on that one. Best not

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:29

    How fun is a place that offers guided tours of the local sewer system?

    That's because their sewers are entertaining enough to do that. I spent a year there are never visited a sewer.

    If people don't fancy Paris then Amsterdam is just down the road from Spa and so id the Nurburgring. I wonder what the lap record is for a 52 seater bus round the 'Ring?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 01:30

    I fell asleep... bed 4 me! Night all!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:30

    G'night Nick

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 01:30

    i do want to go to canada one day, but europe first :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:31

    If people don't fancy Paris then Amsterdam is just down the road from Spa and so id the Nurburgring. I wonder what the lap record is for a 52 seater bus round the 'Ring?

    Based on this place's track record, that'll be on Top Gear next series

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 01:32

    Night Nick

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 01:33

    i do want to go to canada one day, but europe first :D

    Ooooh Canada! I've completely caught the travel bug. I booked all my vaccination appointments for later this week so if I decide to go to India I don't die!

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 01:34

    31 #369 - Bassano Clapper said:

    If people don’t fancy Paris then Amsterdam is just down the road from Spa and so id the Nurburgring. I wonder what the lap record is for a 52 seater bus round the ‘Ring?

    Based on this place’s track record, that’ll be on Top Gear next series

    I see a wipe out at teh banked corner to Swallow's nest....

  • me01/09/2009 at 01:35

    Based on this place's track record, that'll be on Top Gear next series

    :D

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 01:39

    Based on this place's track record, that'll be on Top Gear next series

    I've been round with bicycles on the roof of my car :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:47

    I've been round with bicycles on the roof of my car :D

    Quote of the day :D

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 01:47

    Quote of the day :D

    To be fair, it is very early in the day!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 01:48

    To be fair, it is very early in the day!

    I doubt it'll be beaten

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 01:49

    I doubt it'll be beaten

    My laptime certainly will be! Poor panda :(

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F101/09/2009 at 02:00

    Night everyone. (Got a little too quite around here.)

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 02:00

    See ya Jordan

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 02:07

    I am back... wasp sting paranoia and insomnia, not a good combo!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 02:08

    I am back... wasp sting paranoia and insomnia, not a good combo!

    One causing the other?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 02:09

    One causing the other?

    I have no idea!

    Sleep wasnt going to happen though!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 02:10

    Well, it's still relatively early :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 02:10

    fake jenson seems to be having a similar problem!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 02:11

    fake jenson seems to be having a similar problem!

    I haven't opened Twitter since Friday, I think

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 02:20

    I am going to try to get some sleep. I have no wasps or spiders so I should be OK although I worry about not havin chestnuts just in case.

    Night all

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 02:20

    I am going to try to get some sleep. I have no wasps or spiders so I should be OK although I worry about not havin chestnuts just in case.

    Chestnuts?

    Night!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 02:20

    Night Steven :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 02:21

    Well, it's still relatively early :)

    Luckily i also have an f1 race to watch followed by a forum!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 02:23

    Chestnuts?

    According to Lou who is an expert on the subject spiders won't go near chestnuts

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 02:24

    According to Lou who is an expert on the subject spiders won't go near chestnuts

    Ah so they wont stop me sufforcating from my wasp sting then :(

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 02:33

    According to Lou who is an expert on the subject spiders won't go near chestnuts

    They now fear my Italian dictionary too :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 02:43

    I must retire for the night too

    Till the sun sets again...

  • Jeffw, formerly gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 05:04

    Should be what 22 hours plus of driving from FLA to Montreal?

    ohh less than a day. Of course, I could do it in under 19 hrs...(no speed cameras here, folks.) FULL THROTTLE ALL THE WAY!

    My poor '91 mazda might disagree with me, but I've got a large hammer for just such an occasion.

  • Jeffw, formerly gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 05:13

    I wonder what the lap record is for a 52 seater bus round the 'Ring?

    Pretty sure they do this all the time, since it's a public road and all. We'd have to find a driver insane enough to:

    1) drive a bunch of F1-obsessed geeks around Germany and

    2) push it through the green hell, with aforementioned F1-obsessed geeks critiquing every missed apex and turn. "oh, webber would have done better." ahaha would be fun. I wonder if Sabine is available?

  • Jeffw, formerly gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 05:20

    As the rest of you get up, I prepare for sleep. Good morning, everyone! Hope you all have a great day :D

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 05:35

    Night, Jeff. :D

    Morning, everyone else. I've been watching a replay of Hungary 2001 - and Martin was in the booth! I guess he didn't miss ALL the Hungaries in his ITV run. ;)

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 05:36

    1) drive a bunch of F1-obsessed geeks around Germany and

    2) push it through the green hell, with aforementioned F1-obsessed geeks critiquing every missed apex and turn. "oh, webber would have done better." ahaha would be fun. I wonder if Sabine is available?

    Ooooh, that would be a good idea. :D Waaaaait a minute - you're going to the Nurburgring AND Spa?! *even more jealous*

  • Jeffw, formerly gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 05:39

    *got caught reading the 'making comments' section. good ideas there...

    Ooooh, that would be a good idea. :D Waaaaait a minute - you're going to the Nurburgring AND Spa?! *even more jealous*

    yeah in my dreams. this would happen after USGPE calls me back to offer a job as director of facilities. At which point I'd offer a behind the scenes tour, as you'd all come to the next US GP, if ever we host one again.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 05:40

    yeah in my dreams. this would happen after USGPE calls me back to offer a job as director of facilities. At which point I'd offer a behind the scenes tour, as you'd all come to the next US GP, if ever we host one again.

    There will be a USGP in the next 3-5 years, I'm sure of it. USGPE will call ya soon, don't worry. ;)

  • Jeffw, formerly gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 05:44

    There will be a USGP in the next 3-5 years, I'm sure of it. USGPE will call ya soon, don't worry. ;)

    who do you know and what have you heard? On both fronts! (hopefully both happen much, much sooner than you prognosticate) Not sure which I'd be more excited about, either. I swear I was heading to bed, but you got me excited again.

  • Jeffw, formerly gravit8ed01/09/2009 at 05:50

    Okay yes checking out, got my backup pc de-trojan'd, running smoothly, and made some notes for a spcradio feature I may or may not be considering. must consult the wiki tomorrow (a how-to for tin foil hat origami followed by a seriously ludicrous dive into the renault investigation)

    YAY SPC! Soo much to do, so little time.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 06:01

    YAY SPC! Soo much to do, so little time.

    you're officially hooked. it feels good, no? :D

    g'night. ;)

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 06:52

    good afternoon.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 06:52

    good afternoon.

    Good Morning!

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 07:02

    Hello to everyone. :D

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 07:12

    I am still wondering what happened to Korean GP. I checked their official site, all in Korean by the way. It looks like it is still up to date, there is a mention of some promo event for the race next year held early August year ... does not look like site of GP that is not planning to have a race next year ...

    Yes, I do prefer F1 going to Canada rather than to Korea, but still, what happened there ?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 07:15

    I am still wondering what happened to Korean GP. I checked their official site, all in Korean by the way. It looks like it is still up to date, there is a mention of some promo event for the race next year held early August year ... does not look like site of GP that is not planning to have a race next year ...

    Hmmm. Last-minute issue with FOM, perhaps?

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 07:17

    Hmmm. Last-minute issue with FOM, perhaps?

    Well Bernie already sued Korean orgainzers once, in late 90s, when the race did not work out :-)

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 07:19

    Well Bernie already sued Korean orgainzers once, in late 90s, when the race did not work out :-)

    But if he was gonna sue, we would've heard it by now. But nothing. How odd.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 07:21

    eBay sells Skype - that's expected. Disney to buy Marvel - where did THAT come from?!

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 08:28

    Morning all.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 08:30

    Morning all.

    Morning. Is it more like Monday or Tuesday for you?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 08:31

    Morning. Is it more like Monday or Tuesday for you?

    It actually feels like Tuesday, which is unusual.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 08:43

    Bernie sticks his oar in: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78232

    "But if they are true then I would have thought Nelson was in just as much trouble. If I tell you to go and rob a bank and you get caught you can't say, 'Well Bernie told me to.'

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 08:44

    Bernie sticks his oar in: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78232

    "But if they are true then I would have thought Nelson was in just as much trouble. If I tell you to go and rob a bank and you get caught you can't say, 'Well Bernie told me to.'

    If Bernie told him to he would, I suspect...

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 08:44

    Bernie sticks his oar in: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78232

    "But if they are true then I would have thought Nelson was in just as much trouble. If I tell you to go and rob a bank and you get caught you can't say, 'Well Bernie told me to.'

    But this is kinda like the suspect turning himself in wanting to get protected as a witness so he can point to the mastermind...

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 08:45

    But this is kinda like the suspect turning himself in wanting to get protected as a witness so he can point to the mastermind...

    True enough. You don't usually tend to get away with it completely though. Perhaps a reduced sentence.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 08:47

    True enough. You don't usually tend to get away with it completely though. Perhaps a reduced sentence.

    True. Thing is, will the FIA go for a suspension, or will they grant clemency to the driver ala-Spygate?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 08:49

    True. Thing is, will the FIA go for a suspension, or will they grant clemency to the driver ala-Spygate?

    It's a different situation, because back then, it would have removed an awesome championship battle. Piquet isn't exactly doing much for the sport right now, so I don't imagine they'll feel lenient towards him?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 08:54

    True. Thing is, will the FIA go for a suspension, or will they grant clemency to the driver ala-Spygate?

    It's a different situation, because back then, it would have removed an awesome championship battle. Piquet isn't exactly doing much for the sport right now, so I don't imagine they'll feel lenient towards him?

    Anything that keeps Piquet out of the sport can't be that bad can it?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 08:55

    Anything that keeps Piquet out of the sport can't be that bad can it?

    Ha. I don't suppose it reflects well on the FIA to ban him just because they don't like him, though.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 08:55

    It's a different situation, because back then, it would have removed an awesome championship battle. Piquet isn't exactly doing much for the sport right now, so I don't imagine they'll feel lenient towards him?

    Good point. Methinks we'll see if Piquet Sr is still close enough to Bernie to avoid any serious punishment.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 08:57

    Anything that keeps Piquet out of the sport can't be that bad can it?

    Ha. I don't suppose it reflects well on the FIA to ban him just because they don't like him, though.

    True. But I think that his status 'on the outside' and the fact he is not going for a championship means he may get a harsh penalty though...

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 08:59

    True. But I think that his status 'on the outside' and the fact he is not going for a championship means he may get a harsh penalty though...

    Could do. But then if they penalise Piquet badly then they have to also judge Renault in the same light as well, and that would be Bye-Bye Renault, wouldn't it?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 09:00

    Good point. Methinks we'll see if Piquet Sr is still close enough to Bernie to avoid any serious punishment.

    My guess is they look into it and say there isn't enough evidence. They're seen to have done something, but no punishments needed either way.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 09:01

    True. But I think that his status 'on the outside' and the fact he is not going for a championship means he may get a harsh penalty though...

    Could do. But then if they penalise Piquet badly then they have to also judge Renault in the same light as well, and that would be Bye-Bye Renault, wouldn't it?

    I think Renault are on their way out anyway. The thing is, Max hates Flav because in 1994 Flav sent a very public letter of no confidence to the FIA president...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 09:05

    Oooooh i made it onto thr daily :D :D thank youuu

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 09:08

    My guess is they look into it and say there isn't enough evidence. They're seen to have done something, but no punishments needed either way.

    Yup. Good point.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 09:12

    My guess is they look into it and say there isn't enough evidence. They're seen to have done something, but no punishments needed either way.

    Yup. Good point.

    It's the SOP for FIA opt-outs isn't it?

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 09:19

    eBay sells Skype - that's expected. Disney to buy Marvel - where did THAT come from?!

    All to do with terrible movies based on average cartoon books

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 09:20

    eBay sells Skype - that's expected. Disney to buy Marvel - where did THAT come from?!

    All to do with terrible movies based on average cartoon books

    I don't think I've really liked a single comic book movie lately - except for Batman...

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 09:21

    "But if they are true then I would have thought Nelson was in just as much trouble. If I tell you to go and rob a bank and you get caught you can't say, 'Well Bernie told me to.'

    That's not the way things went with the McLaren/Ferrari thing. The drivers (Anando/Pedalo) got off scott free. If anything were proved, I would expect the same, and a more harsh punishment.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 09:21

    I don't think I've really liked a single comic book movie lately - except for Batman...

    Iron Man was good..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 09:23

    I don't think I've really liked a single comic book movie lately - except for Batman...

    Iron Man was good..

    it probably was - but I have been put off because the others have been so bad!

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 09:23

    Iron Man was good..

    Good in a "I know exactly what's gonna happen" kind of way. Comic books don't make good movies, they make good action

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 09:27

    I love this Autosport headline: "Ecclestone: Race probe may have consequences "

    Really? No kidding?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 09:28

    Really? No kidding?

    I think it's a case of good story, bad headline.

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 09:29

    I think it's a case of good story, bad headline.

    I know, I just had a laugh.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 09:31

    James Allen's take on the Renault saga is interesting...

    Seems like management buyouts are in vogue - ironic that after all the years of Max courting the major manufacturers (and ultimately seeing most of them withdraw), the future of F1 is back into the hands of the garagiste vs. Ferrari and a couple of other manufacturers...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 09:32

    Question to all, is there a leaving clause in the Concorde agreement?

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 09:33

    Question to all, is there a leaving clause in the Concorde agreement?

    Oh good question. Especially if, say, Renault were given a McLaren size fine.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 09:34

    Oh good question. Especially if, say, Renault were given a McLaren size fine.

    That was my thinking, a clause that says they could leave with minimal fuss under certain circumstances

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 09:35

    That was my thinking, a clause that says they could leave with minimal fuss under certain circumstances

    Could they then sell the team though? Hmm interesting.

    I don't believe for one minute any of this will happen

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 09:37

    Could they then sell the team though? Hmm interesting.

    I'd think that it was the manurfacturers that got tied in by the agreement, so like Honda, even thought their space was filled by Brawn, they should have still gotten screwed a bit by Bernie

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 09:45

    it probably was - but I have been put off because the others have been so bad!

    Iron is definitely worth it

    Morning all

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 09:47

    I've just been watching last year's Singapore.

    If this was planned, it was a huge gamble. I just can't believe it. The only thing that would make any sense is they planned a crash just as all the others were due to pit - hence penalties for Rosberg and Kubica?

    But would they still have won, and Ferrari not mucked up Massa's refueling? Hmmm. It just doesn't make sense.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 09:49

    Morning everyone!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 09:51

    Morning everyone!

    Morning Alex!

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 09:54

    So on the Spa conversation from last night... I have two thoughts

    a) the train sounds like the simplest option still

    however

    b) my Cousin, Bearded Stew from SofaF1, is a registered coach driver, has the maximum licence including the one where you can drive the longest legal coach + a trailer on the back (reversing in those situations is fun!) and of course loves Formula 1 and Spa. I'll ask him what he thinks is necessary / possible. He has a lot of experience in driving coaches from London all over Europe for Skiing trips and Summer camping holiday breaks. So will know how far you can go and what's neccessary - and might even be convinced / willing to do it.

    But it does still sounds slightly more complicated.

    #SpaOrBust

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 09:57

    So on the Spa conversation from last night... I have two thoughts

    a) the train sounds like the simplest option still

    however

    b) my Cousin, Bearded Stew from SofaF1, is a registered coach driver, has the maximum licence including the one where you can drive the longest legal coach + a trailer on the back (reversing in those situations is fun!) and of course loves Formula 1 and Spa. I'll ask him what he thinks is necessary / possible. He has a lot of experience in driving coaches from London all over Europe for Skiing trips and Summer camping holiday breaks. So will know how far you can go and what's neccessary - and might even be convinced / willing to do it.

    But it does still sounds slightly more complicated.

    #SpaOrBust

    Are we planning a Spa trip next year? Because it's the closest race to me so I'm keen!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 09:57

    Morning Alex

    b) my Cousin, Bearded Stew from SofaF1, is a registered coach driver....

    Well. Who'd a thunk it

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 09:58

    #SpaOrBust

    I prefer the idea of the train but I will tag along with whatever everyone else does :D

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 09:58

    But would they still have won, and Ferrari not mucked up Massa's refueling? Hmmm. It just doesn't make sense.

    Yes, they would've. Even if Massa was first to come out of the pitlane, he'd still have ended up behind Alonso on track. And as Alonso was using his tyres well, Massa wouldn't have been able to overtake him.

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 09:58

    Are we planning a Spa trip next year? Because it's the closest race to me so I'm keen!

    you've missed all the discussions? it's quite the international meet up!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:00

    I prefer the idea of the train but I will tag along with whatever everyone else does :D

    I suppose if we have two groups, we could opt for train or road trip.

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:00

    Yes, they would've. Even if Massa was first to come out of the pitlane, he'd still have ended up behind Alonso on track. And as Alonso was using his tyres well, Massa wouldn't have been able to overtake him.

    Fair enough. It seemed Massa was very quick in the opening laps, but you are right about the overtaking.

    The idea of crashing a car deliberately still seems beyond reality to me

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:01

    Are we planning a Spa trip next year? Because it's the closest race to me so I'm keen!

    you've missed all the discussions? it's quite the international meet up!

    I have - I was writing my blog last night and went to bed early...

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:01

    I suppose if we have two groups, we could opt for train or road trip.

    I'd like road trip, but not in a bus :D I hate buses :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:01

    Are we planning a Spa trip next year? Because it's the closest race to me so I'm keen!

    I thought you might be, it's in the early stages of planning. There'll be a wiki page soon

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:01

    I have - I was writing my blog last night and went to bed early...

    I believe it first came up on Saturday too :D

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:01

    you've missed all the discussions? it's quite the international meet up!

    I really really want to go. I'm going to have a year of being jealous

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:02

    I have - I was writing my blog last night and went to bed early...

    I believe it first came up on Saturday too :D

    I was out on saturday...

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:02

    I'd like road trip, but not in a bus :D I hate buses :D

    I'm still quite up for driving, I find coaches a bit of a drag personally

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:02

    I was out on saturday...

    ahh you cannot have a life, and keep up with spc :D

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:03

    I'd like road trip, but not in a bus :D I hate buses :D

    heh...

    I really think it will be much easier for everyone if we say... this train leaving at this time is the train... Book a seat yourself and we're away.

    Logistically it's got to be easier.

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:03

    I'm still quite up for driving, I find coaches a bit of a drag personally

    a Crofty/Ant like road trip in a car would be fun :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:03

    I was out on saturday...

    ahh you cannot have a life, and keep up with spc :D

    Not without spoiling the Qually results, no!

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:03

    ahh you cannot have a life, and keep up with spc :D

    or a job, for that matter

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:03

    Logistically it's got to be easier.

    And probably cheaper to be honest if those prices from Nick are right. £50? That's fantastic.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:03

    a Crofty/Ant like road trip in a car would be fun :D

    As long as you accept that Giggles and I don't have access to any fast Jaguars ;)

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:04

    As long as you accept that Giggles and I don't have access to any fast Jaguars ;)

    ...yet.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 10:04

    I am totally not on board with this yet, but...

    To me, it would make much more sense if the overall thing is: we're meeting in Belgium at this time.

    Then everyone can travel however they want and if several people want to get the train then they can have that adventure, whilst others road trip or whatever.

    To get everyone together travelling the way everyone wants seems like a logistical nightmare.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:05

    I am totally not on board with this yet, but...

    To me, it would make much more sense if the overall thing is: we're meeting in Belgium at this time.

    Then everyone can travel however they want and if several people want to get the train then they can have that adventure, whilst others road trip or whatever.

    To get everyone together travelling the way everyone wants seems like a logistical nightmare.

    Agreed. Meetup at the track I reckon...

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 10:05

    You could even have a Top Gear style race.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:05

    As long as you accept that Giggles and I don't have access to any fast Jaguars ;)

    ...yet.

    Giggles is a classic E-Type man and Bassano strikes me as an XJS type...

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:05

    Then everyone can travel however they want and if several people want to get the train then they can have that adventure, whilst others road trip or whatever.

    That is an option

    There will probably be smaller groups congregating and Chips & Mayo outlets

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:06

    Agreed. Meetup at the track I reckon...

    Everyone else can do what they want but I need someone to hold my hand from London because Europe = scary :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:06

    You could even have a Top Gear style race.

    :D

    Giggles is a classic E-Type man and Bassano strikes me as an XJS type...

    :lol:

    Mark II actually

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:06

    Everyone else can do what they want but I need someone to hold my hand from London because Europe = scary :D

    you know london is in Europe right?

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:07

    Everyone else can do what they want but I need someone to hold my hand from London because Europe = scary :D

    we're allowed to walk near trees.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:07

    Everyone else can do what they want but I need someone to hold my hand from London because Europe = scary :D

    I can do that if you need, Giggles can be the chaperone ;)

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:07

    we're allowed to walk near trees.

    :)

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:07

    you know london is in Europe right?

    I mean scary foreign language other culture europe :D

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:07

    we're allowed to walk near trees.

    since when!?! i was never told this

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:07

    you know london is in Europe right?

    Only geographically. Politically, it's just outside Sydney

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:07

    I can do that if you need, Giggles can be the chaperone ;)

    Absolutely... I think as we're already in London that can be the easiest thing.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:08

    Everyone else can do what they want but I need someone to hold my hand from London because Europe = scary :D

    If you meet me in Denmark (and can drive) we can drive down?

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:08

    Absolutely... I think as we're already in London that can be the easiest thing.

    I'm gatecrashing your long-planned roadtrip!

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:09

    If you meet me in Denmark (and can drive) we can drive down?

    It's easier for me to go to London because its waaay cheaper than flying to any other part of the continent

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:09

    I'm gatecrashing your long-planned roadtrip!

    And..

    Gatecrashers make the best guests sometimes

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:09

    I'm gatecrashing your long-planned roadtrip!

    long-planned? It's been 2 weeks I think. Or is it longer? I can't remember.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:09

    eddstraw tweeting that massa wont be back till next year...aalthough we knew that...kinda

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:09

    long-planned? It's been 2 weeks I think. Or is it longer? I can't remember.

    I think there was beer involved

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:09

    Then everyone can travel however they want and if several people want to get the train then they can have that adventure, whilst others road trip or whatever.

    you know for a fact a team will quit formula one, the second we've finished packing our bags. it's the sidepodcast way.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:10

    If you meet me in Denmark (and can drive) we can drive down?

    It's easier for me to go to London because its waaay cheaper than flying to any other part of the continent

    Depends - Singapore fly direct to Copenhagen.

    If you always wanted to see Denmark I'd be happy to show you around!

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:10

    I think there was beer involved

    if only it had been livestreamed, we could pinpoint the moment the idea seed was planted

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:10

    I think there was beer involved

    I was sober when the idea was born, FACT

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:10

    eddstraw tweeting that massa wont be back till next year...aalthough we knew that...kinda

    I still think he's finished, but he will recover 100%

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:11

    if only it had been livestreamed, we could pinpoint the moment the idea seed was planted

    It was discussed after the live streaming blind installation though

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:11

    If you always wanted to see Denmark I'd be happy to show you around!

    this trip is whirlwindy so I'm going to save Scandinavia for next time. :D

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:12

    It was discussed after the live streaming blind installation though

    I assembled an Ikea footstool today, I kind of wished I had an orange drill

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:12

    this trip is whirlwindy so I'm going to save Scandinavia for next time. :D

    so far......

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:12

    I assembled an Ikea footstool today, I kind of wished I had an orange drill

    You honestly can't beat 'em

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:12

    you know for a fact a team will quit formula one, the second we've finished packing our bags. it's the sidepodcast way.

    never mind bag-packing, we might not make it to the end of the year without someone quitting...

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:13

    so far......

    eheh if I do add any time to the plan, it will just be so I have more days in the 5 countries on my 'must do' list :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:13

    It was discussed after the live streaming blind installation though

    I assembled an Ikea footstool today, I kind of wished I had an orange drill

    Was it really wonky and shoddy like mine was?

  • Alianora La Canta01/09/2009 at 10:14

    I've finally got round to doing the fuel weights and stints (only two days late, then!) and have also compared the different engines. I think I understand why Giancarlo and Kimi ended up pitting on the same lap now...

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:14

    Was it really wonky and shoddy like mine was?

    it was the cheapest one in the store so I wouldn't be surprised. The cover hides the shonkyness though :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:14

    Was it really wonky and shoddy like mine was?

    it was the cheapest one in the store so I wouldn't be surprised. The cover hides the shonkyness though :D

    That's exactly the one I have!

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:14

    eheh if I do add any time to the plan, it will just be so I have more days in the 5 countries on my 'must do' list :D

    The hard part is getting there. You won't want to leave when you do, especially with built-in tour guides

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:14

    never mind bag-packing, we might not make it to the end of the year without someone quitting...

    no more holidays for us then.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:15

    Mr C... I'm trying to understand playground search and can't seem to get it to work for me :(

    I wanted to find out my Sidepodversary... so I found my first comment on the wiki and tried to search for it... But it doesn't seem to come up. If I use the speechmarks the only thing it finds is the wiki...

    The bit I was searching for was "Don’t Prodrive start in Formula1 next year. Who’s in charge of Prodrive again?"

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:15

    That's exactly the one I have!

    this one? :D

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:16

    The hard part is getting there. You won't want to leave when you do, especially with built-in tour guides

    ahh I won't have the tour guides for the most part :D I shall for Switzerland because my friend lives there, and I shall for Italy because I'm going to talk someone into Monza :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:16

    The bit I was searching for was "Don’t Prodrive start in Formula1 next year. Who’s in charge of Prodrive again?"

    Does "prodive work on it's own"?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:16

    *prodrive

    I meant, on it's own

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:17

    The google knows though: April 29th, 2007

    Gosh I've got to wait aaaaaaaaageeeeeeeessssss... ;)

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 10:17

    The bit I was searching for was "Don’t Prodrive start in Formula1 next year. Who’s in charge of Prodrive again?"

    I searched for "Don't Prodrive start in Formula 1 next year." Found it straight away.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/04/28/button-to-red-bull-racing/#comment-297

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:18

    The google knows though: April 29th, 2007

    How do you get google to sort results by date?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:19

    The bit I was searching for was "Don’t Prodrive start in Formula1 next year. Who’s in charge of Prodrive again?"

    Two years later and we're still none the wiser...

    But there is still that rumor that they'll take over Force India, with the team and Vijay's other companies struggling with debt...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:19

    Can we pool the engineering and aviation knowledge here to build us a flying contraptionto get us there, possibly out of 2Ltr Bottles?

    You called?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:19

    How do you get google to sort results by date?

    Advanced search?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:19

    I searched for "Don't Prodrive start in Formula 1 next year." Found it straight away.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/04/28/button-to-red-bull-racing/#comment-297

    I went with too much! Cool :)

    The conversation on that post is very funny between Mr C and I...

    Imgagine that back in 2007 we were talking about Jenson doing well in a drive with either Red Bull or a customer Mercedes Engine car.

    Mr C and I are clearly forward looking geniuses ;)

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:20

    I searched for "Don't Prodrive start in Formula 1 next year." Found it straight away.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/04/28/button-to-red-bull-racing/#comment-297

    Imagine if Button ended up at RBR. Where would the 2009 title battle be right now...? :D

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:20

    How do you get google to sort results by date?

    I didn't need to... When I did the search results with quotes around it the only sidepodcast page that came up was that one.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:21

    Mr C and I are clearly forward looking geniuses ;)

    :D Two years ahead!

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:21

    I didn't need to... When I did the search results with quotes around it the only sidepodcast page that came up was that one.

    tricky. I can't remember what I said first time.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 10:21

    tricky. I can't remember what I said first time.

    We can find this out for you.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:22

    tricky. I can't remember what I said first time.

    You can ask Christine or Mr C to search it for you, then you can put it down on your wiki page (if you have one).

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:22

    tricky. I can't remember what I said first time.

    mine was about Heikki, although it was kind of being mean to him :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:22

    mine was about Heikki, although it was kind of being mean to him :D

    Have you since apologised to yourself?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:23

    mine was about Heikki, although it was kind of being mean to him :D

    Sometimes you need some tough love :)

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:23

    Have you since apologised to yourself?

    :D

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:23

    We can find this out for you.

    I was sure I caould find it myself, if only I could do the goggly sorty thing

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:24

    Have you since apologised to yourself?

    I wouldn’t be surprised if I come last in the league, soley due to my inability to face the fact that Heikki is very expensive and won’t get many points.

    #sorryamy

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:24

    Have you since apologised to yourself?

    I wouldn’t be surprised if I come last in the league, soley due to my inability to face the fact that Heikki is very expensive and won’t get many points.

    #sorryamy

    :D That said, you're leading the 2010 league! Do you have Heikki there?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 10:24

    I was sure I caould find it myself, if only I could do the goggly sorty thing

    Not a happy start, it seems.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/03/27/live-australia-free-practice-1/#comment-227298

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:25

    :D That said, you're leading the 2010 league! Do you have Heikki there?

    I have both the Finns :D

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:25

    I have both the Finns :D

    Leading WITH Heikki in your team?! Wow.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:26

    Not a happy start, it seems.

    ahaa

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 10:26

    Right... Random factoid of the day...

    While watching the feature where EJ met Rubens I noticed something weird. Rubens eats the same cereal as Katherine.

    So the next day I showed her the program and told her that she now had an affinity with Rubens.

    This morning she said...

    "I woke up in the middle of the night with a random thought... It was totally random and about that clip you showed me. I didn't think of it at the time but the cereal Rubens was eating was, 'Jordan's Country Crisp'. Was that relevant to Eddie Jordan - some kind of in joke? Or what?"

    Madness.

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:26

    Leading WITH Heikki in your team?! Wow.

    clearly this means he will be world champ in 2010

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:26

    Not a happy start, it seems.

    Oh dear that was not a good start. I'm not sure I shoudl have asked now.

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 10:26

    "Obviously, the results of examination has been warmly welcomed in Maranello, in the sense that the team can count on Felipe 100% for the start of next season," said a Ferrari statement.

    so, one driver for 2010 confirmed ? Ferrari back on track for their Monza 2010 drivers announcement ?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:27

    "I woke up in the middle of the night with a random thought... It was totally random and about that clip you showed me. I didn't think of it at the time but the cereal Rubens was eating was, 'Jordan's Country Crisp'. Was that relevant to Eddie Jordan - some kind of in joke? Or what?"

    Hahaha! There HAS to be a story behind that.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:27

    so, one driver for 2010 confirmed ? Ferrari back on track for their Monza 2010 drivers announcement ?

    if that's true, then yes, they're back on track.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:30

    if that's true, then yes, they're back on track.

    as for the 2009 lineup:

    Ferrari not expecting Massa return in '09

    Fisichella to stay put for Monza

    So... who will it be, then? Somehow, I still think that just because they denied nothing's happened yet, doesn't mean nothing will happen later in the week. So I still think Fisi's the favorite for the Ferrari seat. If not, will it be Badoer, Gene, or Bianchi?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:31

    So... who will it be, then? Somehow, I still think that just because they denied nothing's happened yet, doesn't mean nothing will happen later in the week. So I still think Fisi's the favorite for the Ferrari seat. If not, will it be Badoer, Gene, or Bianchi?

    Ooooh, from the AUTOSPORT article:

    Giancarlo Fisichella has emerged as favourite to join the team, but Italian media on Tuesday suggested that Robert Kubica was also a serious possibility.

    Interesting, but would that threaten any talks with Alonso? Kubica's a much more likely bet to stay at the team than a retirement-bound Fisi.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:32

    "the team said in a statement that with plastic surgery on Massa's skull due to be undertaken in the next few days"

    umm...plastic surgery on his skull?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:32

    From nobleF1:

    Brand guru Danny Bahar has left Ferrari and is on his way to Lotus

    Remember Bahar? He came from Red Bull before Ferrari. But why join Lotus now?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:32

    umm...plastic surgery on his skull?

    Google Translate? Must've meant face...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:32

    Remember Bahar? He came from Red Bull before Ferrari. But why join Lotus now?

    To become the CEO of Lotus

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:32

    umm...plastic surgery on his skull?

    Either reconstructive or to ease the facial scarring, I'd imagine

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:33

    To become the CEO of Lotus

    ...Really? Where'd you hear this?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 10:33

    Oh dear that was not a good start. I'm not sure I shoudl have asked now.

    Hehehe. First comments are always funny.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:33

    Either reconstructive or to ease the facial scarring, I'd imagine

    surely thats on his face then?

    maybe i'm just being picky

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:34

    ...Really? Where'd you hear this?

    Autosport

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78234

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:34

    Hehehe. First comments are always funny.

    I know why I was annoyed, but I wish I had kept it to myself

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:35

    Autosport

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78234

    Interesting. I wonder if he'll be looking at F1 or he'll be focusing on road cars exclusively...

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:35

    I know why I was annoyed, but I wish I had kept it to myself

    the moral of the story is 'aways be at Albert Park' :D

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:35

    Kubica to Ferrari now? Is there anyone who hasn't been suggested for that drive?

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:36

    the moral of the story is 'aways be at Albert Park' :D

    Clearly!

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:37

    Kubica to Ferrari now? Is there anyone who hasn't been suggested for that drive?

    Jenson Button? Rubens Barrichello? Mark Webber? :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:37

    Mr C and I are clearly forward looking geniuses ;)

    how wrong was i with this:

    "prodrive wouldn’t be allowed to beat macca in a straight fight "

    both mercedes customer teams beat mclaren on sunday. nobody said a word.

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:38

    Jenson Button? Rubens Barrichello? Mark Webber? :D

    Rubens! There's a good rumour. hehe.

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:38

    both mercedes customer teams beat mclaren on sunday. nobody said a word.

    Strangely, Mercedes have got no value from these wins

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:39

    both mercedes customer teams beat mclaren on sunday. nobody said a word.

    well, brawn HAS been beating mclaren all season...

    but props to norbert haug and mercedes for allowing a straight fight.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 10:39

    Strangely, Mercedes have got no value from these wins

    ...when they should have, especially from a PR perspective.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:39

    Strangely, Mercedes have got no value from these wins

    It's a little bit embarrassing for the team they have a large share in

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 10:39

    both mercedes customer teams beat mclaren on sunday. nobody said a word.

    hm .. ehm .. Kovalainen finished ahead of Barrichello :-)

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:40

    ...when they should have, especially from a PR perspective.

    At least have a 3pointed star on the engine cover.

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:40

    It's a little bit embarrassing for the team they have a large share in

    agreed. renault took loads of credit for the RBR wins earlier this year. how have mercedes got it so wrong?

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:41

    It's a little bit embarrassing for the team they have a large share in

    Not for Mercedes though - they have the must successful engine of the year by far

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:41

    hm .. ehm .. Kovalainen finished ahead of Barrichello :-)

    he did? oh. i take that back then.

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 10:42

    agreed. renault took loads of credit for the RBR wins earlier this year. how have mercedes got it so wrong?

    well, they probably expected the Force and Brawn to fight for P17 - P20 this season. having their branding on the slowest cars on the grid probably was not part of Merc PR plan :-)

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:42

    well, they probably expected the Force and Brawn to fight for P17 - P20 this season. having their branding on the slowest cars on the grid probably was not part of Merc PR plan :-)

    they're not adapting very quickly though?

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 10:43

    well, they probably expected the Force and Brawn to fight for P17 - P20 this season. having their branding on the slowest cars on the grid probably was not part of Merc PR plan :-)

    It didn't take Virgin long to work it out. Surely Mercedes would want to get something out of this

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:46

    ...when they should have, especially from a PR perspective.

    Norbert always mentions it in the McLaren after race press releases, but thats it. My favourite is still the one where he thanked Brawn for 'once again saving their bacon'

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:47

    Norbert always mentions it in the McLaren after race press releases, but thats it. My favourite is still the one where he thanked Brawn for 'once again saving their bacon'

    shouldn't he have a quote on the brawn/fif1 press releases?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 10:49

    That's exactly the one I have!

    this one? :D

    YES!

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:50

    my F1 Racing has just arrived, I'm a little disturbed by the "Kimi with Alonso's head and Alonso with Kubia's" photoshop.

  • me01/09/2009 at 10:52

    here's an old red bull press release:

    FABRICE LOM, Renault, Principal Engineer Track Support: “This race ended a nightmare weekend for us. We had two engine failures on Sebastian’s car, so it’s a black weekend. I can only apologise to Red Bull Racing and Sebastian in particular for this reliability issue and assure them that we will work as hard as possible to ensure it doesn’t happen again. But, the end of the season will now be tough on the engine side for Sebastian.”

    is the renault deal different to the mclaren deal? why can't norby have a say on his partners releases?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:52

    my F1 Racing has just arrived, I'm a little disturbed by the "Kimi with Alonso's head and Alonso with Kubia's" photoshop.

    aha, but it could be Massa with Alonsos head and Piquet with Kubicas ;)

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 10:53

    aha, but it could be Massa with Alonsos head and Piquet with Kubicas ;)

    ahh but Alonso has Kimi's signature on his arm, and theres too many sponsors to be Piquet :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 10:53

    is the renault deal different to the mclaren deal? why can't norby have a say on his partners releases?

    I would say he's a little more tightly interwoven into the McLaren fabric to be so joyful about the competition's good form

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 10:54

    ahh but Alonso has Kimi's signature on his arm, and theres too many sponsors to be Piquet :D

    oooooh spooky, i'm glad i cancelled my subscription ;)

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 10:59

    he did? oh. i take that back then.

    yes, KOV P6, BAR P7 :-)

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 11:02
  • me01/09/2009 at 11:04

    yes, KOV P6, BAR P7 :-)

    see, i figured, lewis was out so rubens must have beaten mclaren. i think in my head i've already factored kovi out of the team. #sorryamy

    did we actually see kovi in the race? i don't remember anything after button passed him on the first lap.

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 11:09

    did we actually see kovi in the race? i don't remember anything after button passed him on the first lap.

    did we actually see kovi in F1 ? i don't remember much other than bad debut race with Renault, that lucky win in Hungary last year and the massive crash last season ... #sorryamy

  • me01/09/2009 at 11:09

    did we actually see kovi in F1 ? i don't remember much other than bad debut race with Renault, that lucky win in Hungary last year and the massive crash last season ... #sorryamy

    :D :D :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 11:12

    did we actually see kovi in F1 ? i don't remember much other than bad debut race with Renault, that lucky win in Hungary last year and the massive crash last season ... #sorryamy

    Harsh but fair

    #Sorry Amy

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 11:12

    Afternoon :)

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 11:12

    did we actually see kovi in F1 ? i don't remember much other than bad debut race with Renault, that lucky win in Hungary last year and the massive crash last season ... #sorryamy

    we see him more than Nico!

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 11:16

    Afternoon :)

    evening :D

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 11:18

    evening :D

    Lies!

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 11:20

    Lies!

    you'll have to get used to it if you're heading down here!

  • me01/09/2009 at 11:22

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    just something that came into my head for some reason.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 11:22

    you'll have to get used to it if you're heading down here!

    To be honest, I think jet-lag might sort out a lot of my sleeping issues! For a couple of weeks until I get out of sync again at least....

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:23

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    umm.....?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 11:23

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    how would i know?! :P

  • me01/09/2009 at 11:23

    umm.....?

    ;)

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 11:24

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    Hehehehe.

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 11:24

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    :D

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:24

    ;)

    is this what i think it is?

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:24

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    If you do, you need to make your in-front-of-camera debut!

  • Kris01/09/2009 at 11:25

    just something that came into my head for some reason.

    What a place to enter the discussion :)

  • me01/09/2009 at 11:25

    is this what i think it is?

    am comment trawling. carry on.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:25

    am comment trawling. carry on.

    ahah, thought as much

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:25

    Vera Lynn is still alive?!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:26

    Vera Lynn is still alive?!

    Umm, i think he...died

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:27

    Umm, i think he...died

    Aparently she now has a CD on the UK charts. She must be 100 or so

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 11:27

    Aparently she now has a CD on the UK charts. She must be 100 or so

    you can totally rock out to 'we'll meet again'

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:27

    My dad is Skype IM (from downstairs, thats another story) with such classic "jokes" as..

    What did the big nosed golfer say to the litttle nosed golfer? Is that a bogey

    ....

    why cant a bicylce stand up? because its two tyred

    and lastly...and worst of all...

    why did the man throw his watch out of the window? because he wanted to see time fly

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:28

    Aparently she now has a CD on the UK charts. She must be 100 or so

    Wiki says she's still alive....Wiki knows all

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:29

    and lastly...and worst of all...

    why did the man throw his watch out of the window? because he wanted to see time fly

    Dad jokes - love it

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:29

    Wiki says she's still alive....Wiki knows all

    true enough

  • lou01/09/2009 at 11:31

    aftenoon :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 11:33

    My internet has vanished again... not good! Need more net connections!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 11:38

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    just something that came into my head for some reason.

    I've never seen Lee in a Panda suit so do not feel qualified to make that judgement

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 11:39

    My internet has vanished again... not good! Need more net connections!

    Internet connections in general have been getting worse lately. Must be the congestion.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 11:39

    I've never seen Lee in a Panda suit so do not feel qualified to make that judgement

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 11:39

    Hi Lou

  • lou01/09/2009 at 11:42

    everyone having a nice afternoon?

  • RG01/09/2009 at 11:44

    not wanting to make anyone jealous, but hello from the beach

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 11:45

    everyone having a nice afternoon?

    My employer probably wishes I were on my way now, so I will bid you farewell

    not wanting to make anyone jealous, but hello from the beach

    Am really not a beach person, though I bet it's lovely

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:45

    not wanting to make anyone jealous, but hello from the beach

    well im in raining essex and am just about to go to Tescos...so there :P

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:46

    My employer probably wishes I were on my way now, so I will bid you farewell

    ciao

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:46

    Question: Anyone heard from Scott in Italy recently? Havent seen him for a while

  • lou01/09/2009 at 11:46

    not wanting to make anyone jealous, but hello from the beach

    they have wifi on the beach!

  • lou01/09/2009 at 11:47

    My employer probably wishes I were on my way now, so I will bid you farewell

    see ya

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:47

    they have wifi on the beach!

    They do? I must go back

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 11:47

    Question: Anyone heard from Scott in Italy recently? Havent seen him for a while

    He was around when Alex and I were watching Friends.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:48

    He was around when Alex and I were watching Friends.

    cool, just wondered, thought Mr C may have bumped him off ;)

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:48

    He was around when Alex and I were watching Friends.

    Did that scare him off? ;-)

  • RG01/09/2009 at 11:49

    @lou technically, its the restraunt

  • lou01/09/2009 at 11:49

    @lou technically, its the restraunt

    ahh okay :)

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 11:49

    Did that scare him off? ;-)

    I expect so. We accidentally dominated the conversation for a while.

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:50

    I expect so. We accidentally dominated the conversation for a while.

    I can honestly day I have never seen that show

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 11:50

    say, even

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 11:50

    I can honestly day I have never seen that show

    I recommend it.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 11:51

    I can honestly day I have never seen that show

    friends is brilliant :)

  • RG01/09/2009 at 11:52

    there is a friends pub here , may have got me intrested in it

  • lou01/09/2009 at 11:52

    there is a friends pub here , may have got me intrested in it

    wow! have you been taking lots of pics to show us? :P

  • RG01/09/2009 at 11:54

    battery low , must go ciao

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 11:55

    battery low , must go ciao

    ciao

  • lou01/09/2009 at 11:55

    battery low , must go ciao

    see ya! hope you're having fun! :)

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 11:57

    I recommend it.

    it is on tv a billion times a day yet I never get sick of watching it. There aren't many shows I can say that about.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 12:01

    i just saw a dude in work in a rubens top! BEST CUSTOMER EVER

    Urm.. Back i go. More rubens shoppers please :)

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 12:45

    Guten Tag (

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 12:46

    Guten Tag (

    Hallo. Wie geht es dir?

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 12:47

    Guten Tag (

    eh? Where is the rest?

  • Chris01/09/2009 at 12:47

    Hey guys. Quick comment during my lunch break about the spa meet. I'm up for it, and I don't mind which method we take to get there (car, bus, train, plane, dolphin etc). However, whichever way is the most popular, I'll take.

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 12:47

    Hallo. Wie geht es dir?

    gut danke :) und selbst?

  • me01/09/2009 at 12:48

    eh? Where is the rest?

    doohockey nicked you comment?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 12:48

    gut danke :) und selbst?

    Ich bin ein einenhornhorn!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 12:49

    gut danke :) und selbst?

    Ich danke auch Ihnen

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 12:49

    doohockey nicked you comment?

    it did. I was trying to be funny - maybe it was for the better.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 12:49

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie? just something that came into my head for some reason.

    hahahahahahahaha

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 12:49

    Ich bin ein einenhornhorn!

    o-kay

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 12:50

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie? just something that came into my head for some reason.

    You look more like the cameraman (because if he does his job correctly, we'll never see his face ;) )

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 12:51

    I expect so. We accidentally dominated the conversation for a while.

    Ah watching friends... Boo at being at work :(

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 12:55

    Ah watching friends... Boo at being at work :(

    I am watching Saved by the Bell. Learning some very important moral lessons.

  • me01/09/2009 at 12:56

    I am watching Saved by the Bell. Learning some very important moral lessons.

    ooh, which episode?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 12:56

    I am watching Saved by the Bell. Learning some very important moral lessons.

    ehehe i used to watch that when i was younger.. ah the memories.. lol

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 12:57

    ooh, which episode?

    they're making an anti drug commercial but *gasp* the star is on drugs!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 12:57

    ooh, which episode?

    they're making an anti drug commercial but *gasp* the star is on drugs!

    I REMEMBER THAT ONE!!!

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 12:58

    I am watching Saved by the Bell. Learning some very important moral lessons.

    I would like to be watching a very special Blossom.

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 12:59

    ehehe i used to watch that when i was younger.. ah the memories.. lol

    I own all 5 seasons on DVD, plus the 2 made for TV movies, and the terrible one season of the college years :D

    I'd understand if you don't want to talk to me anymore.

    :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:01

    I own all 5 seasons on DVD, plus the 2 made for TV movies, and the terrible one season of the college years :D

    I'd understand if you don't want to talk to me anymore.

    :D

    i can't believe you still own dvd's.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:02

    I own all 5 seasons on DVD, plus the 2 made for TV movies, and the terrible one season of the college years :D

    I'd understand if you don't want to talk to me anymore.

    :D

    i can't believe you still own dvd's.

    How do you watch iTunes Rentals on a home theatre with a big screen?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:03

    i can't believe you still own dvd's.

    ;)

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:03

    How do you watch iTunes Rentals on a home theatre with a big screen?

    on a mac.

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:04

    on a mac.

    or an ipod.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:04

    How do you watch iTunes Rentals on a home theatre with a big screen?

    Apple TV?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:04

    on a mac.

    or an ipod.

    But what if you want to watch them on your home theatre unit?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 13:05

    But what if you want to watch them on your home theatre unit?

    Plug it into your projector?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:05

    But what if you want to watch them on your home theatre unit?

    Plug it into your projector?

    But the quality...?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:06

    But the quality...?

    They have HD rentals.. on the Apple TV.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 13:06

    But the quality...?

    It's awesome ;)

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 13:07

    i can't believe you still own dvd's.

    heh I knew you'd say that. If it helps, I'm watching a digital file because all my DVDs are in boxes :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:07

    But the quality...?

    at worst shows are dvd quality, at best the hd versions are close to bluray quality.

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:07

    heh I knew you'd say that. If it helps, I'm watching a digital file because all my DVDs are in boxes :D

    yay :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:08

    But the quality...?

    They have HD rentals.. on the Apple TV.

    Sounds like an expensive and pointlessly complicated way to watch a DVD if you ask me!

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 13:09

    I REMEMBER THAT ONE!!!

    theres no hope with dope!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 13:09

    I am not here. I really am not. Just thought I would pop in and mention that Leo and co on TWiT said that Snow Leopard should be called snow job because it is not a new operating system more like a service pack and if Microsodt had done this they would have been slaughtered. Apparently BOL fans are outraged as well.

    Apple are losing their reputation.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 13:10

    i can't believe you still own dvd's.

    I have just discovered that Love Film are doing online streaming rentals as well.

    It's very beta and the selection is limited but yay for competition!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 13:11

    Leo just said don't buy Snow Leopard as it is more trouble than it is worth because of compatability issues.

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:12

    Sounds like an expensive and pointlessly complicated way to watch a DVD if you ask me!

    you're saying that as a person who hasn't tried it.

    as people who have tried it. we've given away all our dvd's.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 13:12

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78239

    woah

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:13

    woah

    breakout topic?

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 13:13

    this excites me.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:13

    Sounds like an expensive and pointlessly complicated way to watch a DVD if you ask me!

    you're saying that as a person who hasn't tried it.

    as people who have tried it. we've given away all our dvd's.

    But I have a great home theatre system and I can get DVD's really cheap... Somebody like my wife would just want to put a disk in the drive and don't want the hassle of going on the net etc...

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:14

    Sounds like an expensive and pointlessly complicated way to watch a DVD if you ask me!

    It is so much the easiest way to watch a movie ever...

    Here's watching a DVD I don't own:

    1) Go on internet

    2) Buy movie

    3) Wait for it to be delivered

    4) Get DVD and put in DVD player

    5) Watch through the thing telling you don't be a pirate and about movies you don't want to own

    6) Watch movie

    Here's me watching a movie I own:

    1) Get DVD and put in DVD player

    2) Watch through the thing telling you don't be a pirate and about movies you don't want to own

    3) Watch movie

    Here's me watching a movie on Apple TV

    1) Select movie and press play

    2) Watch movie

    It's so easy it's crazy.

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:15

    this excites me.

    i think someone asked the person in picture 5 what they thought about ruben's gearbox.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 13:15

    this excites me.

    They look exactly the same!

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:16

    Leo just said don't buy Snow Leopard as it is more trouble than it is worth because of compatability issues.

    ahh, noted.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:17

    But I have a great home theatre system and I can get DVD's really cheap... Somebody like my wife would just want to put a disk in the drive and don't want the hassle of going on the net etc...

    It's so much easier than the net with an Apple TV... Honestly.

  • me01/09/2009 at 13:17

    Apple are losing their reputation.

    we went to buy snow leopard on monday. the shop had sold all 70 copies of it's new OS on friday and couldn't guarantee when more would be unavailable.

    that's never happened with any previous max os release before.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 13:18

    Oh my goodness....i'm being taken to Tesco-home to buy everything on this list

    I HATE SHOPPING

    See ya all later...if im still alive

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:18

    Leo just said don't buy Snow Leopard as it is more trouble than it is worth because of compatability issues.

    You should never buy an OS just as it comes out as it's always full of bugs and compatibility issues...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 13:19

    ahh, noted.

    The biggest compatability issues seem to be photo and video related and you really don't need to have those

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 13:19

    You should never buy an OS just as it comes out as it's always full of bugs and compatibility issues...

    You sound like my dad who didn't update from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 because "the computer guy at work said not to"

    so he skipped it and went to Windows ME.

    Good choice.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:20

    we went to buy snow leopard on monday. the shop had sold all 70 copies of it's new OS on friday and couldn't guarantee when more would be unavailable.

    only 70 copies?

    And why do you have to buy firmware from a shop? No downloads?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:20

    You should never buy an OS just as it comes out as it's always full of bugs and compatibility issues...

    You sound like my dad who didn't update from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 because "the computer guy at work said not to"

    so he skipped it and went to Windows ME.

    Good choice.

    No, I meant wait 3 months or so for the patches to come out...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:21

    we went to buy snow leopard on monday. the shop had sold all 70 copies of it's new OS on friday and couldn't guarantee when more would be unavailable.

    So you just told me not to use DVD's anymore and you went to buy software in a store? Why not online?

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 13:21

    No, I meant wait 3 months or so for the patches to come out...

    heheh I know

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:25

    So you just told me not to use DVD's anymore and you went to buy software in a store? Why not online?

    It's a pretty big download much bigger than a movie... But I agree!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:25

    I see Bernie is in a panic over singate. This looks like it could be serious....

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:26

    So you just told me not to use DVD's anymore and you went to buy software in a store? Why not online?

    It's a pretty big download much bigger than a movie... But I agree!

    How big, just out of interest?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:27

    When does Apple os11 come out?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 13:28

    I see Bernie is in a panic over singate. This looks like it could be serious....

    Singate? Sounds like a film....

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:29

    Singate? Sounds like a film....

    Singapore-gate looked like a long word :P

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 13:30

    Ah, I thought you'd had a typo on your way to Spingate :D

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:32

    Ah, I thought you'd had a typo on your way to Spingate :D

    spingate sounds a lot better ;)

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:32

    How big, just out of interest?

    Movies are around 1-2 Gb. Snow Leopard is about 5 Gb

    (this is from memory... soz)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:40

    #f1 Usf1 have applied to join fota, Williams.... less keen.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 13:41

    #f1 Usf1 have applied to join fota, Williams.... less keen.

    You beat me by seconds.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78239

    Interesting, though, that USF1 are keen to join. Will Prodrive follow if they find a way into F1?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 13:41

    #f1 Usf1 have applied to join fota, Williams.... less keen.

    Williams don't have a choice, do they?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 13:42

    Williams don't have a choice, do they?

    They do. It's not like membership is mandatory. Kinda like the GPDA.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:42

    Movies are around 1-2 Gb. Snow Leopard is about 5 Gb

    that is quite big, but it is suprisinf they don't offer it. Maybe they are balancing the cost savings of digital distribution against the potential sales of getting people into their stores...

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 13:43

    They do. It's not like membership is mandatory. Kinda like the GPDA.

    But they were kicked out?

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 13:44

    But they were kicked out?

    Well, FI were also kicked out, but it looks like they're looking at rejoining. Williams don't even seem to be there yet.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:46

    Williams don't have a choice, do they?

    I expect FIF1 will rejoin, mainly because of mclaren. Williams seem to have fallen out with ferrari, I think they would only rejoin if their was a big incentive.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 13:48

    Well, FI were also kicked out, but it looks like they're looking at rejoining. Williams don't even seem to be there yet.

    I thought there was a specific reason Williams wouldn't be able to join back, at least not without making FOTA look stupid. I know nothing though. Ignore me.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:48

    that is quite big, but it is suprisinf they don't offer it. Maybe they are balancing the cost savings of digital distribution against the potential sales of getting people into their stores...

    My guess is that it's more about timing of distribution. I would guess that people download movies at a known average pace across their customer base. So there is an average number of downloads which may be trending upwards but is trending upwards at a known pace.

    Whereas software release for Apple is very lumpy. I bet they would get a huge percentage of the downloads they ever get in 1 week. Keeping that many servers and bandwidth spare for that would be difficult.

    Firefox couldn't deal with everyone downloading firefox (30 Mg) at the same time on launch day.

    Apple can't even live stream their conferences when they announce their software because so many people want to watch them.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:49

    I thought there was a specific reason Williams wouldn't be able to join back, at least not without making FOTA look stupid. I know nothing though. Ignore me.

    There was a lot of talk about the whole ban on KERS and FOTA membership. Williams want to use KERS next year and it's a FOTA ban not a FIA one.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 13:52

    Is USF1 joining FOTA really a story? All the teams including Williams will join up. It is not really news when a new team signs up.

  • F1Wolf01/09/2009 at 13:52

    and here comes the Korea news - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78240

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:53

    Is USF1 joining FOTA really a story? All the teams including Williams will join up. It is not really news when a new team signs up.

    Are you here for that comment or not here?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:53

    I thought there was a specific reason Williams wouldn't be able to join back, at least not without making FOTA look stupid. I know nothing though. Ignore me.

    I think it is in fota's intrest to have all the teams as members. But they do need an enforcement policy to keep the organization effective

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 13:53

    Are you here for that comment or not here?

    Who me? I thought I made it quite clear that I am not

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 13:54

    Is USF1 joining FOTA really a story? All the teams including Williams will join up. It is not really news when a new team signs up.

    But if there's a FOTA ban on KERS, Williams might opt not to join? Good point, that, from Alex.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:54

    Who me? I thought I made it quite clear that I am not

    Ah okay.. cool just wanted to be sure :)

  • Kona01/09/2009 at 13:55

    I wonder if it is something to do with the Easter Egg effect too. People are more likely to part with cash for something that comes in a shiny case, and twinkles at you when you take it out. Downloading something from the web, doesn't hold the same value.

    Plus wouldn't it be far easier for the OS to be pirated / distributed if it was downloadable content.

    Oh hello everyone by the way...

  • Kona01/09/2009 at 13:56

    Ooops sorry I seem to have lost the Quote from Alex in that response. re: Snow Leopard by the way... Not erm... FOTA and such like.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:57

    Firefox couldn't deal with everyone downloading firefox (30 Mg) at the same time on launch day.

    that's true. Perhaps they need to find a p

    Apple can't even live stream their conferences when they announce their software because so many people want to watch them.

    2p system. E3 has had the same problem, the streams always seem to get online through Justin though

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 13:57

    and here comes the Korea news - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78240

    Interesting, but if they want on, who'll get off the calendar? Or will we have the first 19-race calendar in half a decade?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 13:58

    Oh hello everyone by the way...

    *waves*

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 13:58

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78234

    This looks like an important story to me. Danny Bahar ran the branding for Red Bull for years then a couple of years ago he moved to Ferrari and sorted out their website etc. Now he is leaving for Lotus. Why would anyone leave Ferrari for Lotus nowadays? There has to be a story behind this.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 13:58

    How big, just out of interest?

    Movies are around 1-2 Gb. Snow Leopard is about 5 Gb

    (this is from memory... soz)

    That's fine... overnight download?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 13:59

    Oh hello everyone by the way...

    hello!

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 13:59

    This looks like an important story to me. Danny Bahar ran the branding for Red Bull for years then a couple of years ago he moved to Ferrari and sorted out their website etc. Now he is leaving for Lotus. Why would anyone leave Ferrari for Lotus nowadays? There has to be a story behind this.

    Exactly my thoughts. Is F1 in Lotus' future?

  • Kona01/09/2009 at 14:00

    Being a CEO for Lotus is probably more exciting (well paid) than a glorified web designer for Ferrari.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:01

    This looks like an important story to me. Danny Bahar ran the branding for Red Bull for years then a couple of years ago he moved to Ferrari and sorted out their website etc. Now he is leaving for Lotus. Why would anyone leave Ferrari for Lotus nowadays? There has to be a story behind this.

    Ross Brawn springs to mind.... Maybe it's just that he wants some freedom to do what he wants (which presumably is limited at the prancing pony) or perhaps he feels he's achieved everything he's going to there and wants a new professional challenge.

  • Kona01/09/2009 at 14:01

    Ah... Okay. Anyone care to tell me how to quote from the Real Time Doohickey Screen? I press reply... but no quote.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 14:02

    Being a CEO for Lotus is probably more exciting (well paid) than a glorified web designer for Ferrari.

    He wasn't just a glorified web designer - he led Ferrari's marketing team. He ensured Ferrari would be able to grow its popularity and capitalize on it through revenue for non-car items and suchlike.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 14:02

    Ah... Okay. Anyone care to tell me how to quote from the Real Time Doohickey Screen? I press reply... but no quote.

    You press reply and then click on the paragraph you want to quote

  • Kona01/09/2009 at 14:02

    You press reply and then click on the paragraph you want to quote

    Got yeh. Thanks!

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:04

    You press reply and then click on the paragraph you want to quote

    Does it tell you this in the guide for new people? It took me ages to figure that out. Intuitively, pressing reply really should do it.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 14:06

    Does it tell you this in the guide for new people? It took me ages to figure that out. Intuitively, pressing reply really should do it.

    It does link to this wiki page: http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Live+Commenting+Solutions

    Where I have attempted to write instructions. Please let me know what is missing though and I will update.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 14:06

    Exactly my thoughts. Is F1 in Lotus' future?

    Not a chance

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 14:07

    Not a chance

    So why go to Lotus? What would he get out of it?

  • Kona01/09/2009 at 14:07

    Does it tell you this in the guide for new people? It took me ages to figure that out. Intuitively, pressing reply really should do it.

    Searching for the words 'reply' and 'quote', and the fact I have read that... I don't think it does. Not to worry it just isn't immediately obvious at first.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 14:07

    Being a CEO for Lotus is probably more exciting (well paid) than a glorified web designer for Ferrari.

    He was foing a lot more than that and he was number 2 at Red Bull. I can't see the attraction of Lotus as there are a lot more opportunities at Ferrari and I grew up as a Lotus fan.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 14:08

    Ross Brawn springs to mind.... Maybe it's just that he wants some freedom to do what he wants (which presumably is limited at the prancing pony) or perhaps he feels he's achieved everything he's going to there and wants a new professional challenge.

    That is a different situation. Ferrari basically screwed Brawn and he is interested in winning i F1 not building a business career.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 14:09

    Ah... Okay. Anyone care to tell me how to quote from the Real Time Doohickey Screen? I press reply... but no quote.

    Just click on the bit you want to quote and it will appear. If you click on the commenter's name the whole comment will be quoted.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:09

    Searching for the words 'reply' and 'quote', and the fact I have read that... I don't think it does. Not to worry it just isn't immediately obvious at first.

    I did find the instructions in the guide for the LCLT (other live commenting solution). In the doohickey guide it just refers to the other instructions. I might add a link but other than that it does make sense.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 14:09

    Not to worry it just isn't immediately obvious at first.

    It isn't particularly obvious... but the advantage of it not auto-including everything is huge:

    a) you don't want to include the previously included paragraphs usually

    and

    b) If somebody has written loads you can reply to individual bits much more easily

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 14:10

    I did find the instructions in the guide for the LCLT (other live commenting solution). In the doohickey guide it just refers to the other instructions. I might add a link but other than that it does make sense.

    Should I put the instructions in both then? I didn't want it to be word for word boring, but if it's easier that way, I can do that.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:11

    I did find the instructions in the guide for the LCLT (other live commenting solution). In the doohickey guide it just refers to the other instructions. I might add a link but other than that it does make sense.

    Wait a minute. No there aren't are there? I've lost the plot. I don't think it actually is explained

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 14:11

    So why go to Lotus? What would he get out of it?

    If he is CEO of the company he will run the road car and consulting business. i would have thought that he would have more opportunities at Ferrari. di Montezemolo is not getting any younger so there will be opportunities there sooner rather than later.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:12

    It isn't particularly obvious... but the advantage of it not auto-including everything is huge:

    Yeah absolutely. I'm not suggesting changing how the feature works, it's ace! Also the idea that I can click someone's name and the whole comment comes up is complete news to me!

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 14:13

    If he is CEO of the company he will run the road car and consulting business. i would have thought that he would have more opportunities at Ferrari. di Montezemolo is not getting any younger so there will be opportunities there sooner rather than later.

    Very good point. Well, it's not like he can't come back to Ferrari, right? But perhaps he needs a place where he can start learning how to run a luxury car company. Given its size, Lotus is a good place to start. Perhaps he'll use it as a training ground for a future move to Ferrari...

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:13

    This is the explanation

    All the standard live commenting features still apply, including click to quote, plus drop.io image sharing integration.

    I'm not sure that is obvious enough. What do other people think?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 14:13

    Wait a minute. No there aren't are there? I've lost the plot. I don't think it actually is explained

    Ah, I think the instructions got buried in the Version 1.0 post. I'll fix that.

  • RG01/09/2009 at 14:20

    Hello. I appear to have walked into the lobby the same time they test out the 'disco' music.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 14:22

    Hello. I appear to have walked into the lobby the same time they test out the 'disco' music.

    not a fan of the 'disco' music?

  • RG01/09/2009 at 14:23

    not a fan of the 'disco' music?

    Too bloomin loud.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 14:24

    Too bloomin loud.

    ahhh. sounds fun. ;)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 14:30

    Too bloomin loud.

    Throw some shapes?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 14:34

    Throw some shapes?

    Triangle...

    Rhomboid...

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 14:34

    Rhomboid...

    Only you would come up with a rhomboid.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 14:35

    Only you would come up with a rhomboid.

    Parallelogram? :D

    And I thought it was a rhombus? ;)

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 14:35

    Only you would come up with a rhomboid.

    Why thank you :)

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 14:37

    Dear UK,

    I am sad that your F1 Racing has an article on Jake, and mine only has an article on Goldilocks v2.0. Does it matter that Jake isn't even on Australian TV? I think not.

    Lots of love,

    Australia.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 14:37

    And I thought it was a rhombus? ;)

    They are different...

    A rhomboid is a parallelogram where adjacent sides are of unequal lengths and angles are oblique.

    A Rhombus is a parallelogram with sides of equal length eg. equilateral

  • RG01/09/2009 at 14:37

    And I thought it was a rhombus?

    Technically it isn't. I don't think

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 14:38

    A rhomboid is a parallelogram where adjacent sides are of unequal lengths and angles are oblique.

    I felt the Rhomboid is more dancing like... Oblique angles etc...

    I am uber geek ;)

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 14:39

    A rhomboid is a parallelogram where adjacent sides are of unequal lengths and angles are oblique.

    A Rhombus is a parallelogram with sides of equal length eg. equilateral

    My goodness...

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 14:39

    Dear UK,

    I am sad that your F1 Racing has an article on Jake, and mine only has an article on Goldilocks v2.0. Does it matter that Jake isn't even on Australian TV? I think not.

    Lots of love,

    Australia.

    :D

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 14:40

    :D

    I also get a "bonus" 16 page excerpt from Autocar magazine. It's like spam, in paper form.

  • RG01/09/2009 at 14:41

    That smilie comes out like someone has ripped its mouth off on here.

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 14:42

    oh oh oh seeing Heikki described as a "gadget obsessed Finn" makes me heart him more. Gadgets rule!

    And now that I have reached the back page, I shall go to zzzz.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:44

    I shall go to zzzz.

    Night :P

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 14:44

    oh oh oh seeing Heikki described as a "gadget obsessed Finn" makes me heart him more. Gadgets rule!

    And now that I have reached the back page, I shall go to zzzz.

    Heheh. :D Night.

  • RG01/09/2009 at 14:45

    Sigh, transfer deadline day is just not the same anymore. Bring it back to midnight cut off point, 5pm is anti climatic.

    Must dash as well, 1 min 6, 5, 2 secs to go

  • lou01/09/2009 at 14:45

    oh oh oh seeing Heikki described as a "gadget obsessed Finn" makes me heart him more. Gadgets rule!

    And now that I have reached the back page, I shall go to zzzz.

    hehe :) night Amy

  • lou01/09/2009 at 14:46

    Must dash as well, 1 min 6, 5, 2 secs to go

    bye R.G :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 14:47

    Dear UK,

    I am sad that your F1 Racing has an article on Jake, and mine only has an article on Goldilocks v2.0. Does it matter that Jake isn't even on Australian TV? I think not.

    Lots of love,

    Australia.

    it doesn't say all.that much.. I guess someone could. Read it out loud on a live stream?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:52

    Must dash as well, 1 min 6, 5, 2 secs to go

    I'm confused. To go until what? There's longer than that till 5. Else there better be :P

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 14:54

    I'm confused. To go until what? There's longer than that till 5. Else there better be :P

    I assume he is buying internet time while he is in Cyprus

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 14:55

    I assume he is buying internet time while he is in Cyprus

    Ah thanks :)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 14:55

    Proof that the BBC listen to the Debrief.

    http://bit.ly/13lFgA

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 14:56

    Ah thanks :)

    I didn't help. I am not here.

    sssssshhhhhhh

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 15:07

    I am sleeping, honestly. I'm not looking at grandstands at Spa, noo.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 15:08

    http://bit.ly/18pApM

    Log into your twitter account and see how much you hype. You get a score of 1 to 10. I got 2.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 15:08

    I am sleeping, honestly. I'm not looking at grandstands at Spa, noo.

    Hehehe

    To be honest, no-one can blame you. It obviously isn't nighttime ;)

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 15:09

    I am sleeping, honestly. I'm not looking at grandstands at Spa, noo.

    How about the US Open? ;)

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 15:09

    How about the US Open? ;)

    I watch the night session when I'm at work because one of the channels is 24 hour US Open. Other than that, the time difference makes it a lot harder to follow :(

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 15:10

    I watch the night session when I'm at work because one of the channels is 24 hour US Open. Other than that, the time difference makes it a lot harder to follow :(

    Ahhh. It says tonight's will be Sharapova, then Murray.

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 15:10

    I am sleeping, honestly. I'm not looking at grandstands at Spa, noo.

    I'm not already packing for Spa either. Can't find my Finland flag

  • James01/09/2009 at 15:11

    Hello everyone! Coming to you from Windows 7. This is fun :D

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 15:11

    Ahhh. It says tonight's will be Sharapova, then Murray.

    Ahh, it'll be nice to watch Muz in a shock-upset first round exit ;)

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 15:11

    I'm not already packing for Spa either. Can't find my Finland flag

    I'm not normally a flag person but if I had a Finnish flag, I would be :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 15:12

    I'm not already packing for Spa either. Can't find my Finland flag

    I'm not normally a flag person but if I had a Finnish flag, I would be :D

    We had a HUGE Danish flag for Le Mans - we hung it from the Caravan before the race too :)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 15:13

    I am sleeping, honestly. I'm not looking at grandstands at Spa, noo.

    aw! :D

  • lou01/09/2009 at 15:15

    I'm not normally a flag person but if I had a Finnish flag, I would be :D

    i nearly bought a flag after goodwood... i just kept seeing either Jenson flags or Brawn flags and i was so tempted :)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 15:17

    Log into your twitter account and see how much you hype. You get a score of 1 to 10. I got 2.

    i got 3.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 15:18

    Log into your twitter account and see how much you hype. You get a score of 1 to 10. I got 2.

    i got 3.

    Same here.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 15:20

    Log into your twitter account and see how much you hype. You get a score of 1 to 10. I got 2.

    Are you sure this site is reputable?

  • Amy01/09/2009 at 15:22

    I just had a brain wave that McLaren have not sent me the beautiful Heikki poster I bought a month ago. Booo eShop, boooo.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 15:25

    Are you sure this site is reputable?

    It just appeared on a Leo show so it should be. It was written by a few people as a bit of fun and a joke. I don't think there is anything malicious in ti

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 15:27

    It just appeared on a Leo show so it should be. It was written by a few people as a bit of fun and a joke. I don't think there is anything malicious in ti

    Ah okay... I just don't like giving passwords to sites I don't know.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 15:35

    It just appeared on a Leo show so it should be. It was written by a few people as a bit of fun and a joke. I don't think there is anything malicious in ti

    Ah okay... I just don't like giving passwords to sites I don't know.

    Twitter's API has got so many security holes in it that it's just not funny. Apparently somebody has found a way to run malicious code in the "via application" field of a tweet - so you only have to look at it and it runs on your machine!

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 15:38

    Just testing, please ignore.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 15:41

    Just testing, please ignore.

    Ok then ;)

    ooops!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 15:41

    Just testing, please ignore.

    It's OK I am not here so I wouldn't notice anyway

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 15:42

    It's OK I am not here so I wouldn't notice anyway

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 15:43
  • Christine01/09/2009 at 15:45

    Okay, have seriously updated the Live Commenting wiki instructions - with added screenshots and everything.

    Love to know if these are more useful than the previous ones. I think they are a bit overwhelming, but I have never written a manual before so am not sure!!

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 15:46

    5Km here I come! :D

    If you did 7 by accident, 5 will be a doddle!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 15:49

    5Km here I come! :D

    If you did 7 by accident, 5 will be a doddle!

    That's what I am hoping!

    By the way, the shirt is awesome because it's very much like a Williams shirt :D

  • James01/09/2009 at 15:49

    Okay, have seriously updated the Live Commenting wiki instructions - with added screenshots and everything.

    Love to know if these are more useful than the previous ones. I think they are a bit overwhelming, but I have never written a manual before so am not sure!!

    Hehe. I noticed I had an email to tell me how many words had been added :D

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 15:49

    By the way, the shirt is awesome because it's very much like a Williams shirt :D

    Pictures?

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 15:50

    Love to know if these are more useful than the previous ones. I think they are a bit overwhelming, but I have never written a manual before so am not sure!!

    Certainly a big improvement! But yeah I get your point about overwhelming. I might have a think about how best to procede. If i edit the page and you don't like what I've done, is it easily undoable? If so, I might have a mess about with it.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 15:50

    By the way, the shirt is awesome because it's very much like a Williams shirt :D

    Pictures?

    After the run I promise to drop.io one ;)

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 15:51

    Certainly a big improvement! But yeah I get your point about overwhelming. I might have a think about how best to procede. If i edit the page and you don't like what I've done, is it easily undoable? If so, I might have a mess about with it.

    Yup. The wiki notes every revision, so it's all good.

  • Dan Brunell01/09/2009 at 15:52

    I know it is complete BS but anything having to with Franck, I must pass on.

    Guess who's name came up in my Google alert email today?

  • Dan Brunell01/09/2009 at 15:53

    Oh,

    Morning all.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 15:55

    Morning all.

    Morning :)

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 15:57

    Love to know if these are more useful than the previous ones. I think they are a bit overwhelming, but I have never written a manual before so am not sure!!

    Looks much better... But perhaps you just need a quickstart guide at the top?

    I can't edit the wiki at the moment but perhaps it could say:

    Quick Start

    Link: http://www.sidepodcast.com/realtime/

    What does it do?

    Allows you to follow comments across lots of threads

    How do I comment?

    Hit reply and type in your comment

    But some of the reply boxes are in gray?

    You can only comment in one thread at a time. To switch threads choose from the dropdown near the top. Next to the words Active Thread.

    Other people's replies have quotes in them, why don't mine?

    Once you are replying you can click on the relevant part of the comment you want to quote and it will be automagically quoted for you.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 16:01

    Looks much better... But perhaps you just need a quickstart guide at the top?

    Yes, I was thinking something along the side of a very concise guide with access to the more detailed information if you wanted it.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:02

    Yes, I was thinking something along the side of a very concise guide with access to the more detailed information if you wanted it.

    Absolutely... The stuff Christine has done about the pending and read more and errors and all that is perfect and exactly what you need for when you start becoming a power user.

  • Dan Brunell01/09/2009 at 16:03

    Looks much better... But perhaps you just need a quickstart guide at the top?

    Sweet... I need to go to the playground more often.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:15

    Yes, I was thinking something along the side of a very concise guide with access to the more detailed information if you wanted it.

    Ah, good plan. It's a long time since I was new to the site, so definitely better coming from someone else :)

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:19

    Ah, good plan. It's a long time since I was new to the site, so definitely better coming from someone else :)

    The other weird thing is how everything just evolved for us in the doohicky, with new bits added hither and yon we slowly got used to each new bit. For us it's hard to recreate the shock of its awesomocity.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:20

    The other weird thing is how everything just evolved for us in the doohicky, with new bits added hither and yon we slowly got used to each new bit. For us it's hard to recreate the shock of its awesomocity.

    Yes, and at Sidepodcast Towers there are many, many arguments conversations about which new things should come next, and how to solve specific problems.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:20

    Yes, and at Sidepodcast Towers there are many, many arguments conversations about which new things should come next, and how to solve specific problems.

    I get confused what has and hasn't happened :)

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:22

    I get confused what has and hasn't happened :)

    That's probably why you like time travel stories so much :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:23

    All praise to the internet gods, i am back online!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:29

    All praise to the internet gods, i am back online!

    Android was a godsend, i was up to date with everything.

    The only things i appear to have missed was fiji being suspended from the commonwealth and GT5 isnt too far away...

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 16:30

    Yes, and at Sidepodcast Towers there are many, many arguments conversations about which new things should come next, and how to solve specific problems.

    :D

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:30

    All praise to the internet gods, i am back online!

    Welcome back!

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 16:30

    That's probably why you like time travel stories so much :)

    Christine: The Time-Traveller's Wife?

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:30

    Android was a godsend, i was up to date with everything.

    Yay for Googlephone!

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 16:32

    Christine: The Time-Traveller's Wife?

    That book makes me cry so much.

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 16:33

    That book makes me cry so much.

    It's a very nice, yet very very sad novel.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:34

    Yay for Googlephone!

    I went a bit app mad.

    Got some pointless yet amusing gun thing, last.fm, FxCamera, crazy jumping game thing and post bot...

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:35

    Christine: The Time-Traveller's Wife?

    Didn't really like that one.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:36

    Afternoon all, am back from my mammoth tescos shop...and i only broke one thing, go me :)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 16:37

    That book makes me cry so much.

    same, the film makes me cry too :(

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 16:38

    same, the film makes me cry too :(

    Was it good? I haven't seen it. I was worried it'd ruin the book....

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:38

    My mouse wheel now confuses me. i have gotten used to it working the other way on a touch screen!

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 16:39

    Was it good? I haven't seen it. I was worried it'd ruin the book....

    It's pretty good if you've read the book. If not, you might get a tad confused.

    It's obviously not as good as the book, but it holds its own.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:39

    My mouse wheel now confuses me. i have gotten used to it working the other way on a touch screen!

    You might be able to change it? in mouse options?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:42

    You might be able to change it? in mouse options?

    I tried... no joy, i will have to live in a confused world...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:43

    Question: Pop shield or the furry over the top things?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:43

    Question: Pop shield or the furry over the top things?

    the other things are called spoffles

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:43

    Question: Pop shield or the furry over the top things?

    For use indoors or outdoors?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:44

    For use indoors or outdoors?

    Indoors, but i may use it outdoors too, so maybe both?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:44

    the other things are called spoffles

    Which weirdly is a word invented by Hugh Laurie.

    This is information that didn't make the edit in the goforodd podcast - FACT!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:45

    the other things are called spoffles

    That is an awesome name!! only beaten by Andy's son's name!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 16:45

    the other things are called spoffles

    That is an awesome name!! only beaten by Andy's son's name!

    What is Andy's son's name?

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:46

    Hello

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:46

    What is Andy's son's name?

    Mortimer something, its the coolest ever

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:46

    Hello

    Hello :)

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:46

    Hello

    Guten Tag!

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:47

    Just back from my holidays so thought I'd pop in and see what I've been a missing

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:47

    Just back from my holidays so thought I'd pop in and see what I've been a missing

    Mr C killed Ringo Star and Heikki

    that is all

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:47

    Indoors, but i may use it outdoors too, so maybe both?

    As far as I know, the pop shield is for indoor use and better for stopping plosives, and the spoffle (really?) is either indoor or outdoor and is better for stopping overall wind type noises.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:48

    Just back from my holidays so thought I'd pop in and see what I've been a missing

    What did you get up to on your holidays?

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:48

    What did you get up to on your holidays?

    I was up home in Scotland. My brother got married abroad earlier in the month and this was the wedding reception.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:49

    Just back from my holidays so thought I'd pop in and see what I've been a missing

    There could well be a Sidepodadventure to Spa next year. Which may include a trip around the Nurbergring in a 52 seater bus with bicycle's on the roof!

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:49

    As far as I know, the pop shield is for indoor use and better for stopping plosives, and the spoffle (really?) is either indoor or outdoor and is better for stopping overall wind type noises.

    Well fourstar was a sound engineer and told me... I assume therefore it is true, but I don't have much in the way of proof.

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:49

    There could well be a Sidepodadventure to Spa next year. Which may include a trip around the Nurbergring in a 52 seater bus with bicycle's on the roof!

    Cool, I'd love to do Spa

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:50

    As far as I know, the pop shield is for indoor use and better for stopping plosives, and the spoffle (really?) is either indoor or outdoor and is better for stopping overall wind type noises.

    In my head i'll use a pop shield for indoors, and other than that i'd use the mic for situations such as Autosport and maybe at race circuits. So i think i'll get both

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:50

    As far as I know, the pop shield is for indoor use and better for stopping plosives, and the spoffle (really?) is either indoor or outdoor and is better for stopping overall wind type noises.

    I have no idea what is being discussed! all the other words make no sense to me either, but whats a plosive?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:50

    I was up home in Scotland. My brother got married abroad earlier in the month and this was the wedding reception.

    Sounds good. Did you see Spa?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:50

    Cool, I'd love to do Spa

    It's going to be awesome :)

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:51

    Sounds good. Did you see Spa?

    I did, syill think Raikkonen should have had a penalty though. Very pleased for Fisi and Force India

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:51

    I have no idea what is being discussed! all the other words make no sense to me either, but whats a plosive?

    For example, if you make a p sound loudly into a microphone and it distorts.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:51

    In my head i'll use a pop shield for indoors, and other than that i'd use the mic for situations such as Autosport and maybe at race circuits. So i think i'll get both

    Sounds sensible. We have both. :)

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:51

    It's going to be awesome :)

    Is this a serious venture or just pye in the sky stuff?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:52

    Sounds sensible. We have both. :)

    I like spoffles because it means when i get bored i can bounce it off my chin....i may or may not have spent a large amount of time doing that at Snetterton...

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:52

    Sounds sensible. We have both. :)

    I think I might need to get some too... I remember you lambasting Mr C for having a rubbish pop shield.

    Do you have a recommendation?

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:52

    pye :D lol

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:53

    For example, if you make a p sound loudly into a microphone and it distorts.

    ahh...I dont have a mike set up but i cant stop saying p

    puh puh puh

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:53

    Is this a serious venture or just pye in the sky stuff?

    It is absolutely happening.

    Bassano and I are guaranteeing that at the very least we are going to Spa. And would love to meet up with anyone else who is coming.

    Amy is saving to come from NZ for example...

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 16:53

    Do you have a recommendation?

    I don't know about brands and suchlike, but the difference between mine and his (aside from price) is that his is plastic or metal in the middle, whereas mine is material stretched across. Mine is better. Mr C will probably know more.

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:54

    Amy is saving to come from NZ for example...

    Blimey, that's dedication

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:54

    I don't know about brands and suchlike, but the difference between mine and his (aside from price) is that his is plastic or metal in the middle, whereas mine is material stretched across. Mine is better. Mr C will probably know more.

    Does that mean you may yours from a wire hanger and tights?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:54

    Does that mean you may yours from a wire hanger and tights?

    *made

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 16:54

    Amy is saving to come from NZ for example...

    Shocker!! Thank god she's in bed. Amy doesn't live in NZ :P

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:54

    Blimey, that's dedication

    Sidepodaddiction...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 16:55

    Is this a serious venture or just pye in the sky stuff?

    It is absolutely happening.

    Bassano and I are guaranteeing that at the very least we are going to Spa. And would love to meet up with anyone else who is coming.

    Amy is saving to come from NZ for example...

    I am definitely going too. I may bring a friend...

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:55

    Shocker!! Thank god she's in bed. Amy doesn't live in NZ :P

    whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooppppppppppppppppppssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.................... Ahem!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:55

    Shocker!! Thank god she's in bed. Amy doesn't live in NZ :P

    I was about to say the other way is quicker, but i think i prefer going the NZ route

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:56

    Shocker!! Thank god she's in bed. Amy doesn't live in NZ :P

    #sorryamy

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 16:56

    whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooppppppppppppppppppssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.................... Ahem!

    Tsk tsk. Apologize now... :P

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 16:56

    #sorryamy

    Good. :D

    Off to bed, guys. It's been a surreal day... ;)

    G'night!

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:56

    Is there a race at Spa next year.. I heard something about sharing with the Nurburgring or was it Hockenheim?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 16:56

    G'night!

    Night!!

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 16:57

    Night Journeyer :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:57

    I was about to say the other way is quicker, but i think i prefer going the NZ route

    round the world tickets are often a cheaper way of doing UK to AUS/NZ as well..

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:57

    Is there a race at Spa next year.. I heard something about sharing with the Nurburgring or was it Hockenheim?

    That is the only reason it won't happen. It was on the provisional calendar.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 16:57

    Is there a race at Spa next year.. I heard something about sharing with the Nurburgring or was it Hockenheim?

    If not, we'll just stage our own.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:58

    Is there a race at Spa next year.. I heard something about sharing with the Nurburgring or was it Hockenheim?

    Nurbergring doesnt have a race next year so i think it will be at spa, but no official calendar yet either...

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:58

    If not, we'll just stage our own.

    :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 16:58

    G'night!

    Night

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 16:58

    G'night!

    Night!

  • Journeyer01/09/2009 at 16:59

    Nurbergring doesnt have a race next year so i think it will be at spa, but no official calendar yet either...

    Ahhh, I see how this works - with Hockenheim on the calendar, but unable to host, it'll get dropped for Korea...

    Right, off to bed for realz. :D

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 16:59

    round the world tickets are often a cheaper way of doing UK to AUS/NZ as well..

    hmmm I'm finding it really hard to investigate plane fares at the moment. Roughly how much would you expect to pay to fly if you had plenty of advance notice to book a ticket.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 17:00

    I don't know about brands and suchlike, but the difference between mine and his (aside from price) is that his is plastic or metal in the middle, whereas mine is material stretched across. Mine is better. Mr C will probably know more.

    e

    Final question, as all i have is a copy of Audacity so i've been told about this and theres a mini review here

    What d'ya think? Anything missing? Seems quite reasonable but i don't know a great deal about this sort of thing. Any advice is welcome :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:01

    hmmm I'm finding it really hard to investigate plane fares at the moment. Roughly how much would you expect to pay to fly if you had plenty of advance notice to book a ticket.

    I dont think i have ever bought a ticket with much advance notice :P

    Usually pay about 950-1050 to go round the world. It can be cheaper but it depends where you go though, i normally try to go through places i can stop and see people so i am not as flexible.

  • Christine01/09/2009 at 17:01

    e

    Final question, as all i have is a copy of Audacity so i've been told about this and theres a mini review here

    Definitely wait for Mr C on this one :)

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 17:02

    Definitely wait for Mr C on this one :)

    aha, ta

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:02

    Okay cool so paying about £850 for return ticket is about as cheap as you'll get? Thanks.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:04

    Okay cool so paying about £850 for return ticket is about as cheap as you'll get? Thanks.

    Sounds like a good deal, buts hop around a bit, airfares are far cheaper now than they were the last time i travelled.

    Going longer routes can often be cheaper for bizare reasons too.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:04

    Sounds like a good deal, buts hop around a bit, airfares are far cheaper now than they were the last time i travelled.

    *but shop

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:05

    Sounds like a good deal, buts hop around a bit, airfares are far cheaper now than they were the last time i travelled.

    I've been trying, it's hard to find a good site that lets you compare properly. Thanks.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:07

    I've been trying, it's hard to find a good site that lets you compare properly. Thanks.

    I have found that price comparison sites are rarely the cheapest way to book flights, airlines often have exclusive deals on their sites, or look for deals from the tourist board of the place you are flying too

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:08

    Ah okay. I'm not a frequent flyer. I've been on a plane 4 times my whole life.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:09

    I have found that price comparison sites are rarely the cheapest way to book flights, airlines often have exclusive deals on their sites, or look for deals from the tourist board of the place you are flying too

    If you need to do something complicated it is also best to go to an actual travel agent shop. In the past they have saved me a fortune, and can get you on last miniute flights websites wont let you on.

  • jackie/saltire01/09/2009 at 17:09

    You're not a student are you Alison? Student Unions usually do great round the world deals for young people under about 26.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 17:11

    I've been trying, it's hard to find a good site that lets you compare properly. Thanks.

    Try expedia

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:11

    You're not a student are you Alison? Student Unions usually do great round the world deals for young people under about 26.

    Erm yes and no. I am registered as a student at Liverpool Uni but I've suspended my course atm. That is a good idea though! I'll go have a look.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:11

    Ah okay. I'm not a frequent flyer. I've been on a plane 4 times my whole life.

    Ah, not to worry, i have done more than my fair share.. if you need any help.

    Flights are one thing i know about!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:12

    Erm yes and no. I am registered as a student at Liverpool Uni but I've suspended my course atm. That is a good idea though! I'll go have a look.

    STA travel. I would visit them in the shop if there is one...

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 17:13

    STA travel. I would visit them in the shop if there is one...

    Absolutely... They offer great deals and the people at the shop are really helpful.

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 17:15

    Absolutely... They offer great deals and the people at the shop are really helpful.

    http://www.statravel.co.uk/

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:17

    Oh score thanks. Yeah, I found suitable flights for £650 :D

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 17:17

    Oh score thanks. Yeah, I found suitable flights for £650 :D

    Cool :)

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:19

    They all have 3 changes though :S So many things that could go wrong!! If they're late and you miss a connection, do they have to get you on another plane?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:19

    Oh score thanks. Yeah, I found suitable flights for £650 :D

    Whoop! at that price my might hop on a plane myself!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:20

    They all have 3 changes though :S So many things that could go wrong!! If they're late and you miss a connection, do they have to get you on another plane?

    hehe, yes!

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 17:21

    Whoop! at that price my might hop on a plane myself!

    I still think my favourite part of the live show was when Christine pronounced whoop whoop :) LOVED IT

    Although Mr C killing Ringo was...

    Oh am torn.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 17:28

    Oh score thanks. Yeah, I found suitable flights for £650 :D

    Amy was talking about paying AUS $2000 for flights to Europe which is about £1300

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:28

    Amy was talking about paying AUS $2000 for flights to Europe which is about £1300

    Insanity!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 17:29

    Amy was talking about paying AUS $2000 for flights to Europe which is about £1300

    I think we need to tell her about this then....

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 17:29

    Amy was talking about paying AUS $2000 for flights to Europe which is about £1300

    STA works in Australia too I think... maybe it will work for her?

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 17:30

    STA works in Australia too I think... maybe it will work for her?

    They have a country selector top right.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 17:30

    STA works in Australia too I think... maybe it will work for her?

    They have a country selector top right.

    http://www.statravel.com.au/cps/rde/xchg/au_division_web_live/

    Theres an Oz website

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:30

    STA works in Australia too I think... maybe it will work for her?

    They do, I worked above the shop!

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 17:31

    They have a country selector top right.

    If you are on the UK site it shows you a picture of a kangaroo. The Australian site a picture of a telephone box.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 17:32

    The STA price dosent look any cheaper (but i've only checked one date)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:32

    If you are on the UK site it shows you a picture of a kangaroo. The Australian site a picture of a telephone box.

    Clearly these are the objects which motivate people to fly across the planet!

  • me01/09/2009 at 17:32

    we might be catching up with joe later this evening. if you have any questions, please add 'em here:

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Questions+for+Joe

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:32

    Awww you're all so helpful! The STA round the world journey planner is thoroughly awesome and has convinced me to enjoy my journey over as well. Not only can I stop at some places I'd love to see along the way but it also says I can stop off in India to see my bf at very little extra cost :D

    It's a happy day!!

  • Alex Andronov01/09/2009 at 17:33

    Awww you're all so helpful! The STA round the world journey planner is thoroughly awesome and has convinced me to enjoy my journey over as well. Not only can I stop at some places I'd love to see along the way but it also says I can stop off in India to see my bf at very little extra cost :D

    I'll mention that to the person who wrote that - he's a friend.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:35

    Awww you're all so helpful! The STA round the world journey planner is thoroughly awesome and has convinced me to enjoy my journey over as well. Not only can I stop at some places I'd love to see along the way but it also says I can stop off in India to see my bf at very little extra cost :D

    Make sure to take the cricket scores with you :P

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 17:37

    Evening

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 17:37

    Mr C: quick question...whatja think of this?

    Final question, as all i have is a copy of Audacity so i've been told about this and theres a mini review here

    What d'ya think? Anything missing? Seems quite reasonable but i don't know a great deal about this sort of thing. Any advice is welcome :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:38

    we might be catching up with joe later this evening. if you have any questions, please add 'em here:

    Will you mention the Valancian gangsters? :D

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:38

    I'll mention that to the person who wrote that - he's a friend.

    Awww good! I hope he's proud of it. It works really well!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 17:40

    we might be catching up with joe later this evening. if you have any questions, please add 'em here:

    have added a couple

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 17:40

    The only bad point is that it keeps tempting me to click on places like Iran which I know can only end badly..... :P

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 17:45

    I have added them but chrome wont let it format properly so there is no spacing

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 17:58

    I have added them but chrome wont let it format properly so there is no spacing

    Chrome's only fail seems to be our wiki :(

  • me01/09/2009 at 17:59

    Final question, as all i have is a copy of Audacity so i've been told about this and theres a mini review here

    honestly couldn't tell you.

    behringer make cheap copies of other peoples creations. however, it doesn't mean they're bad, some of their stuff is well priced equipment.

    we started a level or two higher than this, so have no experience of sadly.

    the best advice i can offer any podcaster, is to buy a mac. sad but true.

  • me01/09/2009 at 17:59

    Chrome's only fail seems to be our wiki :(

    it fails on doohickey and lclt too.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 18:00

    the best advice i can offer any podcaster, is to buy a mac. sad but true.

    aha, thought as much :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 18:01

    Chrome's only fail seems to be our wiki :(

    it fails on doohickey and lclt too.

    Works fine for both with me?

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 18:01

    I am totally not on board with this yet, but...

    To me, it would make much more sense if the overall thing is: we're meeting in Belgium at this time.

    Then everyone can travel however they want and if several people want to get the train then they can have that adventure, whilst others road trip or whatever.

    To get everyone together travelling the way everyone wants seems like a logistical nightmare.

    I like this idea. Everyone has different budgets and different time considerations, and different travel preferences. Aim to be at such and such a hotel any time on Thursday. Everyone travelling together was fine when the idea was first mooted and only a few were coming... it has grown a bit..

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:01

    I have added them but chrome wont let it format properly so there is no spacing

    cheers all.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 18:01

    aha, thought as much :D

    thanks though, i shall have a look at other reviews, my price range isnt huge so whatever i buy isnt going ot be great, but hopefully i can find something good thats not too pricey

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 18:02

    You could even have a Top Gear style race.

    multiple live qik streaming!

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:03

    thanks though, i shall have a look at other reviews, my price range isnt huge so whatever i buy isnt going ot be great, but hopefully i can find something good thats not too pricey

    do you need a mixer? no idea what audacity is like, but headphones plug into you computer, so you only need a microphone. i think you can get usb mics and bypass a mixer altogther.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:04

    the best advice i can offer any podcaster, is to buy a mac. sad but true.

    ah this may interest you... i was speaking to a techie friend and he said apple's business was completely changing. They were pushing hard to get into consumerism, before professional uses for their machines dry up as people look for specialist linux based machines designed only to do one task instead of multi purpose machines running specialist software. It has only just started but thats where he sees things going...

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:05

    before professional uses for their machines dry up as people look for specialist linux based machines designed only to do one task instead of multi purpose machines running specialist software. It has only just started but thats where he sees things going...

    nonsense.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 18:06

    do you need a mixer? no idea what audacity is like, but headphones plug into you computer, so you only need a microphone. i think you can get usb mics and bypass a mixer altogther.

    i have no idea, i need a mic input and an input that will record the computer internal sounds too?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 18:06

    before professional uses for their machines dry up as people look for specialist linux based machines designed only to do one task instead of multi purpose machines running specialist software. It has only just started but thats where he sees things going...

    nonsense.

    Who is going to buy a machine that only does one thing? We haven't had that since the Mainframe computer!

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:07

    Who is going to buy a machine that only does one thing? We haven't had that since the Mainframe computer!

    the music industry / film industry used macs, even when they sucked harder than a big sucky thing. they're not going to switch now they're actually quite good.

    and they're not going to switch to linux.

    as i've said before. i was banned from taking a windows laptop into the studio. as in, not allowed in the door with it. i had to leave it in the car.

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:09

    i have no idea, i need a mic input and an input that will record the computer internal sounds too?

    heard some good things about one of these:

    http://www.studiospares.com/Mics-USB/Blue-Snowflake-USB-Mic/invt/424540

    never used one though.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:09

    nonsense.

    Possibly, but he does do some work for the BBC

    I think the ideas he was putting across was that multi purpose computing will give way to devices deigned to do specific things. for example there is no need for the computor on the front of your fridge to be able to run MS Word, but it would be usefull if it could access Tesco's website for example so you could order more groceries

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 18:09

    do you need a mixer? no idea what audacity is like, but headphones plug into you computer, so you only need a microphone. i think you can get usb mics and bypass a mixer altogther.

    i have no idea, i need a mic input and an input that will record the computer internal sounds too?

    thinking about it, i could just use a different track layer on audacity for loops and things

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:10

    for example there is no need for the computor on the front of your fridge to be able to run MS Word, but it would be usefull if it could access Tesco's website for example so you could order more groceries

    sure. that's true. that has nothing to do with the professional industry though? a fridge isn't going to render 140+ tracks of cher's overdubs. and linux is bloody awful at handling audio. worse even than vista.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:11

    and they're not going to switch to linux.

    I dont think its a case of using linux, but simply having a machine with an interface to achieve a task.

    as i've said before. i was banned from taking a windows laptop into the studio. as in, not allowed in the door with it. i had to leave it in the car.

    Did you paint it white and try to sneak it in? :P

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 18:11

    I think the ideas he was putting across was that multi purpose computing will give way to devices deigned to do specific things. for example there is no need for the computor on the front of your fridge to be able to run MS Word, but it would be usefull if it could access Tesco's website for example so you could order more groceries

    Have you never heard of leaving notes on the fridge? :P

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:12

    Did you paint it white and try to sneak it in? :P

    hehe. i think the phrase was... if it doesn't "bong" on startup, it's not coming in here.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 18:12

    as i've said before. i was banned from taking a windows laptop into the studio. as in, not allowed in the door with it. i had to leave it in the car.

    Wow, that's Apple Fanboi-ism to the extreme!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 18:12

    #sidepodspace.

    I have no idea why but the shuttle mission is on a weird schedule. The stronauts woke up today at 6pm UK time and today's spacewalk is scheduled to start at 10:49pm UK time although in recent missions they have tended to start well ahead of schedule. I knew that they had to be running to an odd work day when they launched so early in the morning but I didn't expect it to be this odd.

    Come on NASA. How are we supposed to play I spy if they are asleep?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:12

    Have you never heard of leaving notes on the fridge? :P

    Ok, not the best example... :P

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 18:13

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    just something that came into my head for some reason.

    Weirdly enough all I remember is the hat and the t-shirt, the face has gone blank in my memory... so yes?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 18:13

    hehe. i think the phrase was... if it doesn't "bong" on startup, it's not coming in here.

    Apples bong? What does it sound like?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 18:13

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie?

    just something that came into my head for some reason.

    I would say Mr C is being mean but it's too funny! :)

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:13

    Wow, that's Apple Fanboi-ism to the extreme!

    no. it was experience talking.

    a recording studio even back then was many hundreds of pounds an hour. a blue screen of death literally cost them a fortune.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 18:14

    hehe. i think the phrase was... if it doesn't "bong" on startup, it's not coming in here.

    Much like the rest of the music industry (rimshot)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 18:14

    Apples bong? What does it sound like?

    bong

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 18:14

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_8zPSO9qns&feature=PlayList&p=DBF4B42DFF249545&index=43

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:15

    a recording studio even back then was many hundreds of pounds an hour. a blue screen of death literally cost them a fortune.

    Hmmm... new theory... MrC was in a BoyBand... :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 18:15

    hehe. i think the phrase was... if it doesn't "bong" on startup, it's not coming in here.

    Apples bong? What does it sound like?

    Maybe the musos were hoping to smoke an apple bong? Certainly you can't get high on a BSOD?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 18:15
  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:16
  • Alison01/09/2009 at 18:17

    I love the EEEEP noise as well. I have a powermac '95 in my room at the moment :P I never use it but you've given me the very strong urge to turn it on and get the noise....

    It does however still work nearly 15 years after it was bought. I don't think you could say that about a lot of PCs....

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 18:18

    a recording studio even back then was many hundreds of pounds an hour. a blue screen of death literally cost them a fortune.

    Hmmm... new theory... MrC was in a BoyBand... :P

    He doesn't have a face - how can he be in a boy band? Unless it was a Panda band?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:18

    sure. that's true. that has nothing to do with the professional industry though? a fridge isn't going to render 140+ tracks of cher's overdubs. and linux is bloody awful at handling audio. worse even than vista.

    People have been using banks of PS3's do to some supercomputing... not quite sure for what though.

    140 lines of audio? I cant cope with 2!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 18:19

    He doesn't have a face - how can he be in a boy band? Unless it was a Panda band?

    And there was an "event" which is why he now dosent want a panda!

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:20

    140 lines of audio? I cant cope with 2!

    easily. vocals were that many alone and you can fill another hundred tracks with backing instruments.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:20

    He doesn't have a face - how can he be in a boy band? Unless it was a Panda band?

    Hmmm good point!

    Kiss?

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:20

    easily. vocals were that many alone and you can fill another hundred tracks with backing instruments.

    plus cowbell.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 18:21

    easily. vocals were that many alone and you can fill another hundred tracks with backing instruments.

    plus cowbell.

    Gotta have more cowbell!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:22

    easily. vocals were that many alone and you can fill another hundred tracks with backing instruments.

    Thats scary!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 18:25

    plus cowbell.

    Theres the sidepodpanel pinger problem solved.

    More Cowbell!

  • me01/09/2009 at 18:25

    More Cowbell!

    :D

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 18:38

    Oh man, I know I said this before, but thanks again for helping me plan out my trip. You've all been a big help :)

  • Scott Woodwiss01/09/2009 at 19:12

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie? just something that came into my head for some reason.

    Oi!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 19:13

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie? just something that came into my head for some reason.

    Oi!

    ahhh, I get it now... duh.. *click*

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 19:13

    Oi!

    teeeeheeeee

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 19:13

    ahhh, I get it now... duh.. *click*

    hehe, wondered who'd get it first ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:13

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie? just something that came into my head for some reason.

    Oi!

    Well it was a silly thing to say...

  • Chris01/09/2009 at 19:15

    random question - does anyone think I look a bit like lee mckenzie? just something that came into my head for some reason.

    Oi!

    Now that makes sense!

  • Scott Woodwiss01/09/2009 at 19:19

    Well it was a silly thing to say...

    It was a genuine question. There was no need to make fun of it.

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 19:19

    Well it was a silly thing to say...

    If I had the power to moderate comments I would moderate this.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 19:20

    It was a genuine question. There was no need to make fun of it.

    what question did you ask?

  • me01/09/2009 at 19:20

    Oi!

    ;)

  • me01/09/2009 at 19:21

    If I had the power to moderate comments I would moderate this.

    fair point. the question wasn't silly, i was a bit left of field.

    sorry scott.

  • me01/09/2009 at 19:22

    fair point. the question wasn't silly, i was a bit left of field.

    *it was. damnit. i need a break from commenting.

  • Scott Woodwiss01/09/2009 at 19:22

    what question did you ask?

    I asked if anyone thought I looked a bit like Jake Humphreys. I don't know why, I just thought I did a bit. Seemingly, the entire SPC community disagrees, which is fair enough. But I come home and find that what was a genuine question was made fun of. That I don't appreciate.

  • Scott Woodwiss01/09/2009 at 19:22

    sorry scott.

    It's OK. I just cut my thumb so I'm not in the best mood. :P

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 19:22

    fair point. the question wasn't silly, i was a bit left of field.

    I didn't mean your comment.

  • me01/09/2009 at 19:23

    I didn't mean your comment.

    i know.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:24

    Well it was a silly thing to say...

    If I had the power to moderate comments I would moderate this.

    Why? I don't agree that Scott should have been made fun of, but he was silly to ask a question like that because someone will always make fun of it.

  • Scott Woodwiss01/09/2009 at 19:25

    By the way, I've been trying out the DiRT 2 demo on the 360. So far, with a wheel it's chuffing magic :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:25

    By the way, I've been trying out the DiRT 2 demo on the 360. So far, with a wheel it's chuffing magic :D

    Chuffing Magic :D

    Is that four or five stars out of five? ;)

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 19:26

    By the way, I've been trying out the DiRT 2 demo on the 360. So far, with a wheel it's chuffing magic :D

    I've never been good with Rally-esq games and wheels, i've never got sliding down. I'm much better with a controller when it comes to that kind of thing

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:26

    By the way, I've been trying out the DiRT 2 demo on the 360. So far, with a wheel it's chuffing magic :D

    I can imagine it's fun with a wheel :) but with a normal controller I absolutely *hate* it :(

    which is a shame... It annoyed me so much I bought DiRT 1 to remind myself how utterly superb that game was!

  • me01/09/2009 at 19:28

    Why? I don't agree that Scott should have been made fun of, but he was silly to ask a question like that because someone will always make fun of it.

    calling someone else's comment "silly", is unfair. it wasn't to scott if he really thought it.

    i found it random, hence why i picked up on it. i kinda want lukeh to photoshop something now...

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 19:28

    I can imagine it's fun with a wheel :) but with a normal controller I absolutely *hate* it :(

    I can't get my head around not using a wheel with a racing game... am annoyed mine broke..

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:28

    i found it random, hence why i picked up on it. i kinda want lukeh to photoshop something now...

    no nonononon. no nono nonon.no no. Even I have limits!!

  • me01/09/2009 at 19:29

    no nonononon. no nono nonon.no no. Even I have limits!!

    rats :)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 19:29

    no nonononon. no nono nonon.no no. Even I have limits!!

    you photoshopped Jenson as the Doctor! :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:30

    Why? I don't agree that Scott should have been made fun of, but he was silly to ask a question like that because someone will always make fun of it.

    calling someone else's comment "silly", is unfair. it wasn't to scott if he really thought it.

    i found it random, hence why i picked up on it. i kinda want lukeh to photoshop something now...

    How come you can make fun of it and I get called unfair? You know he doesn't like that kind of stuff. If I asked if I look like DC would you guys not think it silly?

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:30

    How come you can make fun of it and I get called unfair? You know he doesn't like that kind of stuff. If I asked if I look like DC would you guys not think it silly?

    Well thats just silly.

  • me01/09/2009 at 19:31

    Well thats just silly.

    :)

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 19:31

    so I'm watching Space: Above & Beyond... yeah, yeah I know, tacky 90s stuff but I like it... and suddenly up pops a cameo from Coolio. how random.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:32

    so I'm watching Space: Above & Beyond... yeah, yeah I know, tacky 90s stuff but I like it... and suddenly up pops a cameo from Coolio. how random.

    That was an awesome programme!

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:32

    so I'm watching Space: Above & Beyond... yeah, yeah I know, tacky 90s stuff but I like it... and suddenly up pops a cameo from Coolio. how random.

    Has he been spending most his life livin' in a spaceman's paradise?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 19:32

    I asked if anyone thought I looked a bit like Jake Humphreys. I don't know why, I just thought I did a bit. Seemingly, the entire SPC community disagrees, which is fair enough. But I come home and find that what was a genuine question was made fun of. That I don't appreciate.

    I think you are being a little bit precious. It was a joke. Get over it

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 19:33

    Why? I don't agree that Scott should have been made fun of, but he was silly to ask a question like that because someone will always make fun of it.

    Has this place turned into the PC club while I popped out to Tesco's?

  • me01/09/2009 at 19:34

    How come you can make fun of it and I get called unfair?

    because i kinda do look like lee?

    If I asked if I look like DC would you guys not think it silly?

    try it.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:34

    Has this place turned into the PC club while I popped out to Tesco's?

    That's out of line Steven. How dare you use a certain single brand name, as this blatently is unfair on them. In todays society, we must say 'whilst I popped out to supermarket of a brand name you can choose'. Tut.

    ;)

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 19:35

    Has he been spending most his life livin' in a spaceman's paradise?

    they landed on a spacestation for R&R and he was the one giving them the pep talk as they arrived, saying how great it was there... so in a way, yeah!

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 19:35

    conclusion: Never ever should I be allowed to moderate comments ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:35

    I asked if anyone thought I looked a bit like Jake Humphreys. I don't know why, I just thought I did a bit. Seemingly, the entire SPC community disagrees, which is fair enough. But I come home and find that what was a genuine question was made fun of. That I don't appreciate.

    I think you are being a little bit precious. It was a joke. Get over it

    He has a fair point - even if he asked a question which was open to ridicule - hence why I said it was a silly thing to say.

    I am sure Scott is much better looking than Jake anyway...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 19:35

    That's out of line Steven. How dare you use a certain single brand name, as this blatently is unfair on them. In todays society, we must say 'whilst I popped out to supermarket of a brand name you can choose'. Tut.

    Morrisons is crying. You did that :P

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:36

    conclusion: Never ever should I be allowed to moderate comments ;)

    :D

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 19:37

    That's out of line Steven. How dare you use a certain single brand name, as this blatently is unfair on them. In todays society, we must say 'whilst I popped out to supermarket of a brand name you can choose'. Tut.

    Adter all the times I have picked Christine up on product placement I have gone and done it myself. I hereby tender my resignation from the moral high ground.

    Other supermarkets are available. Other shops that are not supermarkets are also available.

    Sidepodcast does not duggest one shop is better than another.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:38

    Morrisons is crying. You did that :P

    Hehe :)

    Actually, now that I mention supermarket brand names, we got asked genuinely today if we had any of the milk stocked at tesco. We asked what the brand name was and they said it was their own brand milk... I honestly wasn't sure how to reply because they were serious about it, and I was kinda amazed!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 19:38

    Actually, now that I mention supermarket brand names, we got asked genuinely today if we had any of the milk stocked at tesco. We asked what the brand name was and they said it was their own brand milk... I honestly wasn't sure how to reply because they were serious about it, and I was kinda amazed!

    ahahahah, "Do you have any tesco value baked beans?"

    "umm...no...this is..."

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:39

    How come you can make fun of it and I get called unfair?

    because i kinda do look like lee?

    You're avoiding the fact that you were mean to someone and they didn't like it

    If I asked if I look like DC would you guys not think it silly?

    try it.

    No point. I know I don't because my jaw doesn't touch my ears!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 19:40

    they landed on a spacestation for R&R and he was the one giving them the pep talk as they arrived, saying how great it was there... so in a way, yeah!

    oh you're kidding me. ep 20 and no 'guests' all series, and now two. first Coolio.. now David Duchovny. I mean it isn't a stellar line up but still...

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 19:41

    Actually, now that I mention supermarket brand names, we got asked genuinely today if we had any of the milk stocked at tesco. We asked what the brand name was and they said it was their own brand milk... I honestly wasn't sure how to reply because they were serious about it, and I was kinda amazed!

    That's ridiculous!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:41

    because i kinda do look like lee?

    Besides, the implications of you looking like Lee are quite scary when I consider the fact that I have a crush on her!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:43

    Actually, now that I mention supermarket brand names, we got asked genuinely today if we had any of the milk stocked at tesco. We asked what the brand name was and they said it was their own brand milk... I honestly wasn't sure how to reply because they were serious about it, and I was kinda amazed!

    That's ridiculous!

    Basically, working in a supermarket ranges from the sublime to the ridiculous!

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:44

    Basically, working in a supermarket ranges from the sublime to the ridiculous!

    I've had worse but I dont think I can share them on here :P

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 19:46

    You're avoiding the fact that you were mean to someone and they didn't like it

    first of all he has apologised already and second he only gave reasons why some silly girl might think your comment should be moderated so be mad at me (not me) and if you want to talk to me about it then you know my skype name.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:51

    You're avoiding the fact that you were mean to someone and they didn't like it

    first of all he has apologised already and second he only gave reasons why some silly girl might think your comment should be moderated so be mad at me (not me) and if you want to talk to me about it then you know my skype name.

    I'm not mad at anyone. I'd say this argument is silly, but that would be unfair ;)

  • Joe in Fla01/09/2009 at 19:52

    any word on the second Ferrari seat?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 19:52

    I'm not mad at anyone. I'd say this argument is silly, but that would be unfair ;)

    I would agree ;)

    What do people think about FOTA and USF1?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 19:53

    I've had worse but I dont think I can share them on here :P

    I used to work Saturday's and holidays in a supermarket. A woman came in with a turkey on Xmas eve complaining that one of its legs was longer than the other and demanding a replacement. Eventually the shop manager got involved and tried to explain to her that large turkeys were in short supply two hours before we closed on Xmas eve and there was no way it could be replaced but the policy was that anyone who wanted a refund could have one without question.

    So she demanded a refund because she could not have an ugly turkey on her Xmas table.

    Of course it didn't help that he asked her if she was going to eat it or dance with it.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 19:53

    any word on the second Ferrari seat?

    It wont be Massa ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:54

    I've had worse but I dont think I can share them on here :P

    I used to work Saturday's and holidays in a supermarket. A woman came in with a turkey on Xmas eve complaining that one of its legs was longer than the other and demanding a replacement. Eventually the shop manager got involved and tried to explain to her that large turkeys were in short supply two hours before we closed on Xmas eve and there was no way it could be replaced but the policy was that anyone who wanted a refund could have one without question.

    So she demanded a refund because she could not have an ugly turkey on her Xmas table.

    Of course it didn't help that he asked her if she was going to eat it or dance with it.

    People do the most mental things at Christmas!

  • Joe in Fla01/09/2009 at 19:54

    It wont be Massa ;)

    That I knew. I did see a story today from Luca where he said it would be insanity to remove him now

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 19:55

    People do the most mental things at Christmas!

    and the 364.25 days around it ;)

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 19:55

    That I knew. I did see a story today from Luca where he said it would be insanity to remove him now

    The only reason it's insane to remove him now is that he has caused a rift in time and space because of his lack of speed, and taking him out of that would cause a supermassive black hole that the superstars would get sucked into.

    Ahem.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:55

    What do people think about FOTA and USF1?

    It's interesting that US Eff Off are one of Max's anointed ones yet they have joined FOTA. When will FIF1 and Williams be allowed in again?

  • Joe in Fla01/09/2009 at 19:56

    The only reason it's insane to remove him now is that he has caused a rift in time and space because of his lack of speed, and taking him out of that would cause a supermassive black hole that the superstars would get sucked into.

    Lukeh, you are the dude!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 19:57

    Of course it didn't help that he asked her if she was going to eat it or dance with it.

    haha :-)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 19:58

    What do people think about FOTA and USF1?

    I think all the teams will be FOTA members by the start of the season. I don't see anything of significance in this announcement

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:58

    That I knew. I did see a story today from Luca where he said it would be insanity to remove him now

    The only reason it's insane to remove him now is that he has caused a rift in time and space because of his lack of speed, and taking him out of that would cause a supermassive black hole that the superstars would get sucked into.

    Ahem.

    Badoer has disrupted the fabric of the universe so much he ruined the MotoGP race too!!!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 19:58

    I have actually just been out to anonymous supermarket brand T. I was amazed how much less i spent than at my usual shopping place of anonymous supermarket S. I also picked up 2 shirts, i may have to switch permanently

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 19:58

    What do people think about FOTA and USF1?

    I think all the teams will be FOTA members by the start of the season. I don't see anything of significance in this announcement

    Even Manor (with Nick Wirth - Max's best mate from his Simtek days)?

  • Chris01/09/2009 at 19:59

    I think all the teams will be FOTA members by the start of the season. I don't see anything of significance in this announcement

    I'd sort of assumed the new teams would join by the start of 2010 as well.

  • Joe in Fla01/09/2009 at 19:59

    It's interesting that US Eff Off are one of Max's anointed ones yet they have joined FOTA. When will FIF1 and Williams be allowed in again?

    USF1 may be one of the annointed, but I think that Peter and Ken are going to do what's right. They may have been annointed because it was known they were coming in with alot of money

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:00

    It's interesting that US Eff Off are one of Max's anointed ones yet they have joined FOTA. When will FIF1 and Williams be allowed in again?

    I belive they are allowed to reapply now. FIF1 probably will, williams are still not getting along with ferrari so i expect they will wait untill fota give them a big incentive

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 20:00

    Badoer has disrupted the fabric of the universe so much he ruined the MotoGP race too!!!

    You think a man of his age would be more appreciating really. I'd hate to see him at the bingo, poor guy would still be dotting the first 3 or 4 numbers of the first game after the 5th shout of 'HOUSE!'.

    Although even then I'm sure he'd tell the declaring winenrs to not talk whilst he dots his numbers.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:00

    Even Manor (with Nick Wirth - Max's best mate from his Simtek days)?

    Nick Wirth isnt involved at the team level though, he didnt want to be involved in the politics

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 20:00

    Badoer has disrupted the fabric of the universe so much he ruined the MotoGP race too!!!

    Why did he ruin the MotoGP race?

  • Joe in Fla01/09/2009 at 20:01

    Speaking of USF1. I would have thought that Scott Speed would have been running every level of NASCAR to improve his skills. He wasn't even in Montreal this past weekend. I'm hoping against hope that he is teamed up with Jonathan Summerton

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:01

    Badoer has disrupted the fabric of the universe so much he ruined the MotoGP race too!!!

    Why did he ruin the MotoGP race?

    I dunno. He raced on the same day as the MotoGP and it's Boooooring!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:02

    It's interesting that US Eff Off are one of Max's anointed ones yet they have joined FOTA. When will FIF1 and Williams be allowed in again?

    Why are they the anointed ones?

    They were angling to join before Max decided he wanted more teams on the grid...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:02

    Speaking of USF1. I would have thought that Scott Speed would have been running every level of NASCAR to improve his skills. He wasn't even in Montreal this past weekend. I'm hoping against hope that he is teamed up with Jonathan Summerton

    I think USF1 will choose American drivers just like Force India chose Indian ones ;)

  • Joe in Fla01/09/2009 at 20:03

    I think USF1 will choose American drivers just like Force India chose Indian ones ;)

    I guess each country has about the same deep pool of drivers

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:03

    and the 364.25 days around it ;)

    People do the craziest things in supermarkets 365 days a year. For example when I worked their the manager was a genius at catching shoplifters. He used to watch them walk in the front door and say he or she is going to lift something. He even caught people who had been shopping next door in Woolworths and ducked into our shop to hide.

    He even caught the bakery delivery man nicking his own stock. His company had a stand with their delivery man stocked. He used to come in with two short bread boards on his head and have the stock checked in. He was caught going out one day with two empty boards and the manager spotted that they looked heavy. Turned out that he hadn't bothered unloading the bottom board.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 20:04

    I have just found this photo from the E3 games conference from July, to be honest I have a feeling Mr C has been photoshopping on the quiet ;)

  • Joe in Fla01/09/2009 at 20:05

    Why are they the anointed ones?

    I don't know if necessarily anointed. But Peter and Ken are probably well thought of in the F1 circles. It might be totally different if Paul Stoddard was trying to start a team named USF1

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:05

    Why did he ruin the MotoGP race?

    Rossi fell

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:06

    I have just found this photo from the E3 games conference from July, to be honest I have a feeling Mr C has been photoshopping on the quiet ;)

    Ringo looks like he has been stuffed like Mr C said

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:06

    And we thought F1 politics were silly... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8232041.stm

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:07

    and the 364.25 days around it ;)

    People do the craziest things in supermarkets 365 days a year. For example when I worked their the manager was a genius at catching shoplifters. He used to watch them walk in the front door and say he or she is going to lift something. He even caught people who had been shopping next door in Woolworths and ducked into our shop to hide.

    He even caught the bakery delivery man nicking his own stock. His company had a stand with their delivery man stocked. He used to come in with two short bread boards on his head and have the stock checked in. He was caught going out one day with two empty boards and the manager spotted that they looked heavy. Turned out that he hadn't bothered unloading the bottom board.

    I stopped a shoplifter once. They went over to the flatscreen TV's and you could tell that they were dodgy - he had a big jacket and a cap covering his face and his missus was a few metres behind him spotting. So I grabbed a colleague and went over to greet them and I caught him reaching behind the TV to try and unplug it. We stuck around and they got spooked and left!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:08

    It's interesting that US Eff Off are one of Max's anointed ones yet they have joined FOTA. When will FIF1 and Williams be allowed in again?

    Why are they the anointed ones?

    They were angling to join before Max decided he wanted more teams on the grid...

    They are anointed because Max chose them?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:08

    And we thought F1 politics were silly... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8232041.stm

    Only in France... I bet both mayors have already had a shrug off!

  • Chris01/09/2009 at 20:09

    Just found this for Christine:

    http://www.life.com/static/realfake/022/1022/comp.jpg

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:09

    And we thought F1 politics were silly... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8232041.stm

    The French mayoral system is very similar to the communist system. All these people with lots of power for a small area. I am amazed this does not happen a lot more often.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:11

    They are anointed because Max chose them?

    It would have been really difficult not to choose them, they announced their intention to join before he opened the selection process.

    Of all the teams angling to get on i would have been most suprised if they didnt get in

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:11

    Why did he ruin the MotoGP race?

    Rossi fell

    Badoer made him do it!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:12

    They are anointed because Max chose them?

    It would have been really difficult not to choose them, they announced their intention to join before he opened the selection process.

    Of all the teams angling to get on i would have been most suprised if they didnt get in

    I still think Lola and Prodrive were stronger...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:13

    I stopped a shoplifter once. They went over to the flatscreen TV's and you could tell that they were dodgy - he had a big jacket and a cap covering his face and his missus was a few metres behind him spotting. So I grabbed a colleague and went over to greet them and I caught him reaching behind the TV to try and unplug it. We stuck around and they got spooked and left!

    When I worked in a supermarket it was when they only sold food. No-one I every saw stopped for shoplifting was taking bread or essentials. Had they been doing that the shop manager was such a soft touch he would probably have filled a basket for them and paid for them himself. The most commonly nicked item was tinned salmon. Most shops have those anonymously on a shelf. He had a display built as the first thing people reached when they entered the shop so that he could watch from his office. He could call the police before they were into the shop let alone leaving it.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:13

    I still think Lola and Prodrive were stronger...

    I disagree, I think USF1 have a lot of potential. The ones I'm more concerned about are Campos.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:15

    I still think Lola and Prodrive were stronger...

    Maybe, but when i was guessing which teams were getting in, USF1 was always the first on my list with 2 others

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 20:15

    I still think Lola and Prodrive were stronger...

    I disagree, I think USF1 have a lot of potential. The ones I'm more concerned about are Campos.

    I think whichever teams had got it they'd all spend alot of time at the back, but then one day (like force india this weekend) they suddenly come up a level

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:16

    I still think Lola and Prodrive were stronger...

    I disagree, I think USF1 have a lot of potential. The ones I'm more concerned about are Campos.

    You really think a press guy and a NASCAR engineer who made suspension rods for McLaren is better than two teams of great experience in Prototypes and Sportscar racing? Because I dont!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:17

    You really think a press guy and a NASCAR engineer who made suspension rods for McLaren is better than two teams of great experience in Prototypes and Sportscar racing? Because I dont!

    No I don't, which is good because that's not what USF1 is.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:17

    Lorenzo climbed a fence at Indy just like Castroneves did!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:17

    You really think a press guy and a NASCAR engineer who made suspension rods for McLaren is better than two teams of great experience in Prototypes and Sportscar racing? Because I dont!

    Windsor is a bit more than a press guy. He was team manager of both Williams and Ferrari.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:18

    You really think a press guy and a NASCAR engineer who made suspension rods for McLaren is better than two teams of great experience in Prototypes and Sportscar racing? Because I dont!

    Thats true but i think its better for the sport to have new teams coming from the US and spain than just another british team down the road from the others.

    I would love prodrive to come in at the expense of renault or even FI, but i cant see it happening yet

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:18

    You really think a press guy and a NASCAR engineer who made suspension rods for McLaren is better than two teams of great experience in Prototypes and Sportscar racing? Because I dont!

    Windsor is a bit more than a press guy. He was team manager of both Williams and Ferrari.

    That was a long time ago...

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:22

    You really think a press guy and a NASCAR engineer who made suspension rods for McLaren is better than two teams of great experience in Prototypes and Sportscar racing? Because I dont!

    USF1 has access to one of the most advanced wind tunnels there is. It has access to the US motorsport base in Charlotte, NASCAR has got a lot more technical in the last 24-36 months and there are good people there working on making the most out of restrictive regulations... could be handy the way F1 is going..

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:22

    I would love prodrive to come in at the expense of renault or even FI, but i cant see it happening yet

    Actualy that isnt quite true. Renault have a decent team and i dont want to see them leave.

    But prodrive have to be better than a mclaren B team pretending to be from India but based in the UK. But i did enjoy them doing well the other day and i did like them as jordan,.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:23

    That was a long time ago...

    He still has experieince of being in a winning team and should know enough people to be able to pick up some rising star rngineers and designers

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:24

    USF1 has access to one of the most advanced wind tunnels there is. It has access to the US motorsport base in Charlotte, NASCAR has got a lot more technical in the last 24-36 months and there are good people there working on making the most out of restrictive regulations... could be handy the way F1 is going..

    I think they will do ok in the longer term, but its going to take a while to get people to think outside the oval

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:24

    That was a long time ago...

    He still has experieince of being in a winning team and should know enough people to be able to pick up some rising star rngineers and designers

    With that argument you could say that even EJ could make a star team...

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:24

    Those with a subscription to Autosport.com need to read of Dieter Rencken's visit to USF1. He had many preconceptions about the team before he actually went to take a look...

    http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2326

    http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2335

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:25

    You really think a press guy and a NASCAR engineer who made suspension rods for McLaren is better than two teams of great experience in Prototypes and Sportscar racing? Because I dont!

    USF1 has access to one of the most advanced wind tunnels there is. It has access to the US motorsport base in Charlotte, NASCAR has got a lot more technical in the last 24-36 months and there are good people there working on making the most out of restrictive regulations... could be handy the way F1 is going..

    OK fair enough then. But it's a big step up for them...

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:27

    OK fair enough then. But it's a big step up for them...

    Absolutely, of course it is. Same as the other two teams.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:28

    With that argument you could say that even EJ could make a star team...

    Why not?

    He managed to drag a team up into F1 and got it to win races. Thats a pretty big achivement!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:28

    With that argument you could say that even EJ could make a star team...

    EJ was never part of a championship winning team though. What EJ was good at was pulling in sponsors and doing deals.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:29

    OK fair enough then. But it's a big step up for them...

    Absolutely, of course it is. Same as the other two teams.

    If they have that much technology and expertise available to them, then I agree with you they are on an equal footing to where Prodrive and Lola are.

    Campos, I have no idea - how are they qualified to do F1?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:30

    Campos, I have no idea - how are they qualified to do F1?

    They are in F1's growth market. They were probably the best Spanish option...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:32

    Campos, I have no idea - how are they qualified to do F1?

    Campos have the same qualification Jordan had.

    Prodrive still have an advantage that David Richards and some of his senior guys have recent experience of F1 and he can pull people from his other projects and know how the top guys will work together when the heat is on.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:32

    If they have that much technology and expertise available to them, then I agree with you they are on an equal footing to where Prodrive and Lola are.

    no no, I was referring to Campos and Manor. albeit they have Dallara and Wirth respectively so maybe not too much difference.

    Campos, I have no idea - how are they qualified to do F1?

    Daniel Audetto is the team manager and he's the one who had a big hand in Super Aguri beating the works team. They have Dallara doing the car, which on paper should be good, but we said that in the 90s and that didn't work too well.. This is why I'm not sure about them, that and being spread across three bases (Dallara/Italy, Campos/Valencia, Meta(commercial dept)/somewhere else in Spain). Source is a Q&A with Johnny Noble last week.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:32

    They are in F1's growth market. They were probably the best Spanish option...

    I disagree completely. Epsilon should have got it.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:32

    They are in F1's growth market. They were probably the best Spanish option...

    I don't think Spain is a growth market.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:33

    Daniel Audetto is the team manager and he's the one who had a big hand in Super Aguri beating the works team. They have Dallara doing the car, which on paper should be good, but we said that in the 90s and that didn't work too well.. This is why I'm not sure about them, that and being spread across three bases (Dallara/Italy, Campos/Valencia, Meta(commercial dept)/somewhere else in Spain). Source is a Q&A with Johnny Noble last week.

    Audetto used to work for Ferrari

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:34

    I don't think Spain is a growth market.

    Why not?

    It has boomed with alonso and now they are looking to consolidate it with a team which should be established after he retires?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:34

    I disagree completely. Epsilon should have got it.

    I think the who franchise model is wrong. If someone can build an elegible car and a team they should be allowed to attempt to qualify. The best guys would stay and the pretenders would leave.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:35

    I think the who franchise model is wrong. If someone can build an elegible car and a team they should be allowed to attempt to qualify. The best guys would stay and the pretenders would leave.

    whole not who

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:36

    I disagree completely. Epsilon should have got it.

    I think the whole franchise model is wrong. If someone can build an elegible car and a team they should be allowed to attempt to qualify. The best guys would stay and the pretenders would leave.

    I agree completely!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:36

    I think the who franchise model is wrong. If someone can build an elegible car and a team they should be allowed to attempt to qualify. The best guys would stay and the pretenders would leave.

    I agree with this. If that meant pre-qualifying, make it a 15-20 minute session on Saturday just before main quals, perhaps exclude the top so many in points.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:37

    Why not?

    It has boomed with alonso and now they are looking to consolidate it with a team which should be established after he retires?

    When Alonso goes the Alonso fans will go. It makes a lot more financial sense to have teams from bigger countries which have much bigger markets. I would go after the BRIC countries as they have large populations and 3 out of the four are not into F1 in a big way.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:37

    I think the who franchise model is wrong. If someone can build an elegible car and a team they should be allowed to attempt to qualify. The best guys would stay and the pretenders would leave.

    Its not feasable with todays costs.

    You wouldnt get races like the last one if everyone had budgets small enough for them to be able to afford not qualifying...

    It has taken a while to get going, but look how many different teams have been on the podium this year...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:38

    I agree with this. If that meant pre-qualifying, make it a 15-20 minute session on Saturday just before main quals, perhaps exclude the top so many in points.

    Pre-qualifying used to happen on a Friday morning. Several teams started packing up before FP1 started.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:39

    Pre-qualifying used to happen on a Friday morning. Several teams started packing up before FP1 started.

    That was because normal qualifying was on Friday and Saturday. There is no reason to have it at such a silly time now.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 20:40

    Pre-qualifying used to happen on a Friday morning. Several teams started packing up before FP1 started.

    I'm lurking but thought i'd give my 2p....

    You couldnt do that, because the big teams with 7 post rigs would get through because they have a base setup to work with from. The smaller teams wouldnt get a chance to sort out their setup and so wouldnt be able to qualify. Occationally you'd get a big team fall off but not too much

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:41

    Its not feasable with todays costs.

    You wouldnt get races like the last one if everyone had budgets small enough for them to be able to afford not qualifying...

    It has taken a while to get going, but look how many different teams have been on the podium this year...

    A sponsor annoyed at not qualifying can jump to another team. The risk lies with the owners of the team. I don't see what the no of teams on the podium has to do with it.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:41

    Its finally happened, i am watching the race on the iplayer and i just cant take it... Get rid of Leggard, or get rid of Brundle they just cant work together.

    Preferably get rid of them both.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:42

    Its not feasable with todays costs.

    That is the new team's problems. Quite a few of the teams were on the point of starting the build before found out they hadn't got an entry. If someone can handle the costs they should not be locked out because F1 is a close shop. We have had teams that have sat at the back of the grid contributing nothing for years on end. Why should they have an automatic grid slot for the next 100 years?

    You wouldnt get races like the last one if everyone had budgets small enough for them to be able to afford not qualifying...

    We did before

    It has taken a while to get going, but look how many different teams have been on the podium this year...

    Before we had the franchise system there were regularly seasons with lots of winners and on the podium. In 1982 there were 11 different winners.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:43

    Its finally happened, i am watching the race on the iplayer and i just cant take it... Get rid of Leggard, or get rid of Brundle they just cant work together.

    Preferably get rid of them both.

    They're too quiet and docile!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:43

    You couldnt do that, because the big teams with 7 post rigs would get through because they have a base setup to work with from. The smaller teams wouldnt get a chance to sort out their setup and so wouldnt be able to qualify. Occationally you'd get a big team fall off but not too much

    They'd scrape in at the bottom end. The big teams with rigs etc would only take the top 20 places as they do now. The remaining 6 places are up for grabs.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:43

    That was because normal qualifying was on Friday and Saturday. There is no reason to have it at such a silly time now.

    There is because of the track licences. Tracks were only ever licensed to have 30 cars practise or qualify

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 20:43

    Only a week until LegoLand :D

    (or it will be in 2 hours....)

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 20:44

    I just got my hopes up there when I realised that Don't Stop, by Fleetwood Mac, was available for download to play on Rock Band 2. The song is from the same album as The Chain, see...

    Sadly, no sign of f1 epic tunage to play on the game :(

    Yet....

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:44

    Only a week until LegoLand :D

    (or it will be in 2 hours....)

    In Denmark?

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:45

    That is the new team's problems. Quite a few of the teams were on the point of starting the build before found out they hadn't got an entry. If someone can handle the costs they should not be locked out because F1 is a close shop. We have had teams that have sat at the back of the grid contributing nothing for years on end. Why should they have an automatic grid slot for the next 100 years?

    That's why I'm so pleased Force India are doing well. They've done nothing worth anything since they were Jordan and there were times when maybe they shouldn't have been around much more - I believe they were only bought (twice? three times?) because of the franchise they held. Now they are performing again they can justify their presence.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:46

    That is the new team's problems. Quite a few of the teams were on the point of starting the build before found out they hadn't got an entry. If someone can handle the costs they should not be locked out because F1 is a close shop. We have had teams that have sat at the back of the grid contributing nothing for years on end. Why should they have an automatic grid slot for the next 100 years?

    I agree with giving teams the chance to qualify, there is no use having poitless teams gaurenteed an entry.

    The only way i can see it working today was if FOM tookover all the sponsorship and sold the ads on the cars, and each team recived a set budget from them. But that would never be accepted.

    we would end up with 2 or 3 competitive teams then the rest would constantly be making slow progress way down the grid untill they make a couple of mistakes and fail to qualify and end up going bust

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:46

    You couldnt do that, because the big teams with 7 post rigs would get through because they have a base setup to work with from. The smaller teams wouldnt get a chance to sort out their setup and so wouldnt be able to qualify. Occationally you'd get a big team fall off but not too much

    The big teams never had to prequalify. Basically the last four slots in qualifying went to the top four pre-qualifying cars. So the top 13 teams from the previous half season automatically got a slot in qualifying.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 20:47

    In Denmark?

    Ya!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:47

    There is because of the track licences. Tracks were only ever licensed to have 30 cars practise or qualify

    ahh I see

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:47

    Its finally happened, i am watching the race on the iplayer and i just cant take it... Get rid of Leggard, or get rid of Brundle they just cant work together.

    get rid of Legard i say.. i was stuck listening to him for Valencia and he kept saying the wrong thing.. at one point he said something that he had clearly just made up, i remember him getting Vettel and Lewis mixed up to.. for a moment i thought Lewis was retiring... i had to text lukeh to find out what on earth was happening.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:47

    Its finally happened, i am watching the race on the iplayer and i just cant take it... Get rid of Leggard, or get rid of Brundle they just cant work together.

    You can't get rid of Brundle. Brundle is the best thing the BBC have

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:48

    In Denmark?

    Ya!

    Cool. Where else are you going?

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 20:48

    get rid of Legard i say.. i was stuck listening to him for Valencia and he kept saying the wrong thing.. at one point he said something that he had clearly just made up, i remember him getting Vettel and Lewis mixed up to.. for a moment i thought Lewis was retiring... i had to text lukeh to find out what on earth was happening.

    Oh yeah! I had to clarify it myself on here at the time I believe because I didn';t have a bleedin' clue what he was talking about either!!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:48

    Only a week until LegoLand :D

    You are going to LegoLand at midnight??

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:48

    They're too quiet and docile!

    They are the complete oposite of Jake, Ej and DC. there is no chemistry, you get the feeling Legard is trying but he isnt quite good enough for TV, and it seems like Martin Brundle would rather be out walking the dog.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:48

    You can't get rid of Brundle. Brundle is the best thing the BBC have

    I think he's losing it. He's not as good as he was.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:49

    In Denmark?

    There is on in Windsor

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:49

    You can't get rid of Brundle. Brundle is the best thing the BBC have

    I think he's losing it. He's not as good as he was.

    The difference between BBC and the radio is immense... Crofty's excitement is way better!

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 20:49

    You are going to LegoLand at midnight??

    Awww I wish! How awesome would that be.... I want to go to the Danish one because that's where I went as a kid.

    I remember that Windsor site when it was a Safari park!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:49

    You can't get rid of Brundle. Brundle is the best thing the BBC have

    He is supposed to be a colour comentator, but he is not doing his job. If he wants to be the lead commentator let him do that, and get someone else in there to the colour stuff.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:50

    I think he's losing it. He's not as good as he was.

    i think it's eddie... i think he is slowly sucking any life from the other presenters...

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 20:50

    i think it's eddie... i think he is slowly sucking any life from the other presenters...

    It will soon get to the point where only the word 'Jordan' is spoken on BBC due to Eddie's lack of SHUTTING UP ABOUT THEM,

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:51

    He is supposed to be a colour comentator, but he is not doing his job. If he wants to be the lead commentator let him do that, and get someone else in there to the colour stuff.

    what's a colour commentator when they are at home?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:51

    The difference between BBC and the radio is immense... Crofty's excitement is way better!

    He wasnt that great when he was doing GP2.

    I would love to see him given the chance to do it though, especially if Ant isnt around next year...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:51

    The only way i can see it working today was if FOM tookover all the sponsorship and sold the ads on the cars, and each team recived a set budget from them. But that would never be accepted.

    No. That sounds like the communist system American sports use. American sports are the last bastion of communism.

    we would end up with 2 or 3 competitive teams then the rest would constantly be making slow progress way down the grid untill they make a couple of mistakes and fail to qualify and end up going bust

    Didn't happen before. Jordan had to pre-qualify for the first half of 1991 but they were scoring points from there.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:51

    You are going to LegoLand at midnight??

    Awww I wish! How awesome would that be.... I want to go to the Danish one because that's where I went as a kid.

    I remember that Windsor site when it was a Safari park!

    The Danish one is fantastic - I love it!

    What else are you seeing in Denmark?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:52

    ahh I see

    The rule was 30 cars quali or practise. 26 maximum in the race except Monaco where the number was lower

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:52

    He is supposed to be a colour comentator, but he is not doing his job. If he wants to be the lead commentator let him do that, and get someone else in there to the colour stuff.

    what's a colour commentator when they are at home?

    Sitting on the couch having a cup of tea? :D

    A colour commentator provides 'colour' to the event commentary - in other words, he provides insight and opinion to on-track events...

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:52

    I would love to see him given the chance to do it though, especially if Ant isnt around next year...

    wwaaa?? why wont Ant be there next year?... he is awesome he can't leave....

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 20:53

    wwaaa?? why wont Ant be there next year?... he is awesome he can't leave....

    Good chance he'll get a drive next year

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:53

    I would love to see him given the chance to do it though, especially if Ant isnt around next year...

    wwaaa?? why wont Ant be there next year?... he is awesome he can't leave....

    Ant reckons he has a drive in F1... Will not say more ATM...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 20:53

    wwaaa?? why wont Ant be there next year?... he is awesome he can't leave....

    i think he meant if hes got seat next year

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:53

    A colour commentator provides 'colour' to the event commentary - in other words, he provides insight and opinion to on-track events...

    ah right... makes sense. tbh i'm not sure there is time for that for Martin, he's too busy correcting Legard...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:53

    what's a colour commentator when they are at home?

    Bacicly the main comentor calls whats happening on the track, what we can all see. then the colour guy is supposed to notice stuff the average viewer wouldnt and explain it, or give a drivers perspective on whats happening.

    MB started off doing just that, but when he got paired with JA he had to do a lot more of the main commentary.

    Now with leggard they dont know whether they should be talking over one another or both standing there in silence.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:53

    The difference between BBC and the radio is immense... Crofty's excitement is way better!

    But Ant talks the utmost rubbish and spends all his time saying I am great

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:53

    Mr C was talking about goviral the other day. They have used the Contact Us form on the F1NGers website to ask us to publish their videos... despite the site not having been updated since March, never having featured any video, and the site basically just being a placeholder to get logins (badly)

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 20:54

    ah right... makes sense. tbh i'm not sure there is time for that for Martin, he's too busy correcting Legard...

    Legard is too busy interrupting Martin too!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:54

    Ant reckons he has a drive in F1... Will not say more ATM...

    did he say that! awesome!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:54

    I remember that Windsor site when it was a Safari park!

    I didn;t know that was the same place. Tigers and lego is an awesome combination

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:54

    Good chance he'll get a drive next year

    well i hope the in car radio is good, he couldn't attempt to commentate using the standard of some of them recently....

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:54

    But Ant talks the utmost rubbish and spends all his time saying I am great

    This is the role of the colour comentator

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:55

    The difference between BBC and the radio is immense... Crofty's excitement is way better!

    He wasnt that great when he was doing GP2.

    I would love to see him given the chance to do it though, especially if Ant isnt around next year...

    He wasn't but he did get better... a bit.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:55

    He is supposed to be a colour comentator, but he is not doing his job. If he wants to be the lead commentator let him do that, and get someone else in there to the colour stuff.

    The problem is he wants to do the colour stuff but has to keep taking over from Legard when he says things like Kimi looked offside.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:55

    what's a colour commentator when they are at home?

    Usually an ex-sportsman who adds insight. It is an American term

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:56

    But Ant talks the utmost rubbish and spends all his time saying I am great

    don't dis Ant. both he and Jenson are amazing :P Ant has some great insight though, i love his commentary with Croftie, they are much better than Hamilton and Phillips are for FP2...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:56

    Good chance he'll get a drive next year

    Who is going to hire Ant to drive in F1? He is not that good.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 20:57

    I'm going up to Arhus before LegoLand then driving round to Copenhagen afterwards. Might go over to Sweden just because you've told me that I can!

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 20:57

    Lou:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/08/23/live-europe-the-race/#comment-450344

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/08/23/live-europe-the-race/#comment-450358

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/08/23/live-europe-the-race/#comment-450370

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/08/23/live-europe-the-race/#comment-450408

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/08/23/live-europe-the-race/#comment-450412

    I think thats says it all about legard at Valencia :D

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:57

    The problem is he wants to do the colour stuff but has to keep taking over from Legard when he says things like Kimi looked offside.

    He goes on to much anyway, the start at monaco was an example...

    I dont think JL is up to the job, but i cant see anyone else being able to commentate alongside MB if he doesnt know what is role is.

  • Jeremy01/09/2009 at 20:57

    But Ant talks the utmost rubbish and spends all his time saying I am great

    we all think you're great Steven :P

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:57

    Who is going to hire Ant to drive in F1? He is not that good.

    don't dis ant! he was a good driver wasn't he? he did well in le mans! :)

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 20:57

    don't dis Ant. both he and Jenson are amazing :P Ant has some great insight though, i love his commentary with Croftie, they are much better than Hamilton and Phillips are for FP2...

    thats not hard ;) im better than ian and phillips

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:58

    I didn;t know that was the same place. Tigers and lego is an awesome combination

    Near here is Cricket St Thomas, which is a wildlife park and for a time was owned by Noel Edmonds, during the 'House Party' TV show era it was also a Crinkley Bottom (the village) theme park.

    The locals thought tigers and Noel Edmonds would be an awesome combination!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 20:58

    we all think you're great Steven :P

    hehehe :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 20:58

    Mr C was talking about goviral the other day. They have used the Contact Us form on the F1NGers website to ask us to publish their videos... despite the site not having been updated since March, never having featured any video, and the site basically just being a placeholder to get logins (badly)

    grrrrr... they really suck.

    how much did they offer out of interest?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:58

    I'm going up to Arhus before LegoLand then driving round to Copenhagen afterwards. Might go over to Sweden just because you've told me that I can!

    Awesome! Yeah you can drive all the way now ;)

    When you pass by Odense, give me a wave will ya? ;)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 20:58

    don't dis Ant. both he and Jenson are amazing :P Ant has some great insight though, i love his commentary with Croftie, they are much better than Hamilton and Phillips are for FP2...

    Ant thinks tyres are spherical ??

  • lou01/09/2009 at 20:58

    thats not hard ;) im better than ian and phillips

    well you're already better than Lee so miles ahead of those too ;)

  • me01/09/2009 at 20:59

    But Ant talks the utmost rubbish and spends all his time saying I am great

    i disagree. he's brilliant.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 20:59

    Who is going to hire Ant to drive in F1? He is not that good.

    He's a good tester. He was excellent in those free practice sessions, after accounting for the extra revs and not having to save his tyres...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 20:59

    He wasn't but he did get better... a bit.

    I thought Crofty did well in the GP2 myself...

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 20:59

    When you pass by Odense, give me a wave will ya? ;)

    Is that where you live? I love randomly waving at inanimate objects.... Might well give it a try!

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:00

    Ant thinks tyres are spherical ??

    no he does NOT. he was looking for the word, and he was live on air and under pressure.

    ...trust me on this one ;)

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:00

    how much did they offer out of interest?

    They haven't:

    I have a new F1 video that we would like to pay you to publish on your website.

    The video shows Lewis Hamilton talking about upgrades to his car: (URL)

    Please let me know quickly if you are interested.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:00

    I thought Crofty did well in the GP2 myself...

    rubbish compared to Haven. even after all Haven's ooooohhs, and car ID problems.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:00

    Ant thinks tyres are spherical ??

    that was one slip up.. he is awesome! last year at spa (fp1?) he text five live telling to correct Hamilton's mistakes... he is brilliant! :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:01

    When you pass by Odense, give me a wave will ya? ;)

    Is that where you live? I love randomly waving at inanimate objects.... Might well give it a try!

    Yeah, I live in Odense but I work in Copenhagen...

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:01

    Ant thinks tyres are spherical ??

    Never gonna forgive him for that are ya :P

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:01

    They haven't:

    I have a new F1 video that we would like to pay you to publish on your website.

    The video shows Lewis Hamilton talking about upgrades to his car: (URL)

    Please let me know quickly if you are interested.

    what if you tell them you aren't interested?

    i may need to blog about them.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 21:01

    Ooooh thunder!

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:01

    Ant thinks tyres are spherical ??

    no he does NOT. he was looking for the word, and he was live on air and under pressure.

    ...trust me on this one ;)

    hehe :D

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:01

    what if you tell them you aren't interested?

    i feel left out ;) i want them to ask me just so i can say no :D

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:01

    what if you tell them you aren't interested?

    usually we just ignore stuff like this

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:01

    Mock the Week just starting

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:02

    Ant thinks tyres are spherical ??

    Technically they are...

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:02

    Mock the Week just starting

    *confused face* it's not thursday?...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:02

    I thought Crofty did well in the GP2 myself...

    rubbish compared to Haven. even after all Haven's ooooohhs, and car ID problems.

    You mean you've actually watched some GP2 this year>

    Pat, I'm shocked - are you catching up? ;)

    You are right though - Haven is awesome, but I love how Crofty gets excited - he reminds me of Murray!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:02

    Mock the Week just starting

    well reminded, thanks, I'd forgotten!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:02

    we all think you're great Steven :P

    You have such good taste Jeremy

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:03

    Mock the Week just starting

    well reminded, thanks, I'd forgotten!

    oh hang on, this is a repeat.

  • Jeremy01/09/2009 at 21:03

    how much did they offer out of interest?

    milk them for all they are worth? Just kidding! You could have so much fun playing hardball though - "well, Renault and Ferrari have offered me xxx. Care to match it?" :P

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:03

    don't dis ant! he was a good driver wasn't he? he did well in le mans! :)

    You can have Ant now that Jenson is mine

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:03

    Technically they are...

    they arent spherical, they are cyclindrical

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 21:03

    oh hang on, this is a repeat.

    Ancient or recent. If it's ancient, it's always an amusing watch!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:04

    rubbish compared to Haven. even after all Haven's ooooohhs, and car ID problems.

    You mean you've actually watched some GP2 this year>

    Pat, I'm shocked - are you catching up? ;)

    You are right though - Haven is awesome, but I love how Crofty gets excited - he reminds me of Murray!

    Um.. I'm comparing to 2007 :-) :-)

    Actually I did watch GP2 Asia last night! From January! I insist on watching things in the right order.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:04

    You can have Ant now that Jenson is mine

    Gr... where is Giggles! he is in trouble... ;)

    can't i have both?...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:04

    they arent spherical, they are cyclindrical

    But they have a domed profile... so thus they have the form of an element of a sphere, hence they are spherical!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:04

    Ancient or recent. If it's ancient, it's always an amusing watch!

    Last Thursday's

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:05

    Ant thinks tyres are spherical ??

    no he does NOT. he was looking for the word, and he was live on air and under pressure.

    ...trust me on this one ;)


    hehe :D

    honestly, the criticism isn't fair steven. the guy admits he didn't pay attention at school because all he wanted to do is drive. he had to ask croftie this weekend to help him with his maths. that is one of the sweetest things i've ever heard during a formula one race and rivaled rob for cuteness.

    i admire him for being open and honest and not trying to pretend he's smarter than he is. yes, he thinks he can do better than some of the drivers out there, but then so do i.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:05

    You can have Ant now that Jenson is mine

    Anyone still want a lewis trade? Offers still open.

    :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:06

    You can have Ant now that Jenson is mine

    Anyone still want a lewis trade? Offers still open.

    :P

    Can I have Lewis? He still hasn't called...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:07

    He's a good tester. He was excellent in those free practice sessions, after accounting for the extra revs and not having to save his tyres...

    He wasn't awesome enough for Honda to sign him and they had all his data.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:07

    i admire him for being open and honest and not trying to pretend he's smarter than he is. yes, he thinks he can do better than some of the drivers out there, but then so do i.

    I think being a superlicence holder without a drive and sitting meters away from a Ferrari garage with Badoer in it must be one of the most frustrating things ever!

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 21:07

    Whaaat? Can't we get re-assigned next race?? I'm not having Kubica forever.... I might fall asleep.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:07

    ...trust me on this one ;)

    He didn't say the tyres had died

  • Jeremy01/09/2009 at 21:08

    Is that where you live? I love randomly waving at inanimate objects.... Might well give it a try!

    even I take offense at you calling Gavin "inanimate" :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:08

    He wasn't awesome enough for Honda to sign him and they had all his data.

    i'll be honest here. you don't have all the facts at your disposal, it wasn't that straightforward.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:08

    that was one slip up.. he is awesome! last year at spa (fp1?) he text five live telling to correct Hamilton's mistakes... he is brilliant! :)

    He makes lots off slip ups

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:08

    honestly, the criticism isn't fair steven. the guy admits he didn't pay attention at school because all he wanted to do is drive. he had to ask croftie this weekend to help him with his maths. that is one of the sweetest things i've ever heard during a formula one race and rivaled rob for cuteness.

    Ant is so adorable! you just wanna give him a hug.. i think he deserves a chance in a car again, but then again i don't want to loose him from commentary :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:08

    Anyone still want a lewis trade? Offers still open.

    Didthis happen on the parade lap? i may have missed out...

    stoopid cricket.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:09

    *confused face* it's not thursday?...

    I was surprised

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:09

    He wasn't awesome enough for Honda to sign him and they had all his data.

    It was politics wasn't it? to do with Villeneuve? or have I got my times wrong..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:09

    Is that where you live? I love randomly waving at inanimate objects.... Might well give it a try!

    even I take offense at you calling Gavin "inanimate" :D

    I am not Kimi Raikkonen!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:09

    Ant is so adorable! you just wanna give him a hug.. i think he deserves a chance in a car again, but then again i don't want to loose him from commentary :)

    We need him to both at once like they do in Nascar... :D

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:10

    oh hang on, this is a repeat.

    I haven't seen it.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:10

    It was politics wasn't it? to do with Villeneuve? or have I got my times wrong..

    Politics with Sato, and it wasnt good for Honda to have 2 British drivers...

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 21:10

    I am not Kimi Raikkonen!

    Hehehe I was thinking of waving at your house.... But meh.

  • Jeremy01/09/2009 at 21:11

    Anyone still want a lewis trade? Offers still open.

    decisions decisions. Webber or Hamilton?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:11

    Ancient or recent. If it's ancient, it's always an amusing watch!

    They are talking about Megrahi being released so very recent

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 21:11

    They are talking about Megrahi being released so very recent

    Ah yes, I've definitely seen that one.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:11

    Gr... where is Giggles! he is in trouble... ;)

    can't i have both?...

    Giggles gave me Jenson. I can't risk going against him and his box

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:12

    I am not Kimi Raikkonen!

    Hehehe I was thinking of waving at your house.... But meh.

    You are most welcome to ;)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:12

    He makes lots off slip ups

    i've heard more insights from from his commentary than i ever did from Martin and James...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:12

    Giggles gave me Jenson. I can't risk going against him and his box

    Was the legenday owl involved?

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:12

    Politics with Sato, and it wasnt good for Honda to have 2 British drivers...

    ahh yeah.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:13

    He makes lots off slip ups

    Everyone is allowed mistakes - Murray made a career off them!

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:13

    Giggles gave me Jenson. I can't risk going against him and his box

    grr.....Giggles!!!!

    :cry:

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:13

    honestly, the criticism isn't fair steven. the guy admits he didn't pay attention at school because all he wanted to do is drive. he had to ask croftie this weekend to help him with his maths. that is one of the sweetest things i've ever heard during a formula one race and rivaled rob for cuteness.

    I don't see how a lack of education makes him a better commentator. He makes loads of mistakes. Every time I hear him do practise I hear mistakes. He is not a patch on Brundle

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:13

    Everyone is allowed mistakes - Murray made a career off them!

    damn good point.

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:14

    Didthis happen on the parade lap? i may have missed out...

    It did but I joined late and missed it too

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:14

    Whaaat? Can't we get re-assigned next race?? I'm not having Kubica forever.... I might fall asleep.

    That depends on Alex. We may go back to Dan's game that no-one understands

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:15

    He wasn't awesome enough for Honda to sign him and they had all his data.

    Ant has been heavily involved in the team for ages.. after super aguri died I'm not sure Honda were in a place to hire him for his season anyway as they originally wanted a young driver i think. However i don't know much about the pre super aguri days..

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:15

    Everyone is allowed mistakes - Murray made a career off them!

    Piquet too. Not so well though.

    Oooooooh.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:15

    I don't see how a lack of education makes him a better commentator. He makes loads of mistakes. Every time I hear him do practise I hear mistakes. He is not a patch on Brundle

    You know what? I would much rather have Ant and Crofty make a few slip ups and keep me awake and excited than the borodrome that is Legard - who also makes tons of fundamental errors (not small slipups). He is so boring it is badly affecting Brundle's commentary...

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:16

    Whaaat? Can't we get re-assigned next race?? I'm not having Kubica forever.... I might fall asleep.

    can we keep getting assigned each race till i get Jenson? and then can we stop? :P

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:16

    I don't see how a lack of education makes him a better commentator. He makes loads of mistakes. Every time I hear him do practise I hear mistakes. He is not a patch on Brundle

    you were picking him up on semantics. we understood what he meant. nobody could have been confused by what he was getting at.

    i prefer davidson to brundle. brundle is boring. flick between 5live and bbc during a race, it's like walking out of a rave and into a church.

    martin brundle is the vicar from father ted with the very boring voice.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:16

    That depends on Alex. We may go back to Dan's game that no-one understands

    I don't like that game. It gave me a cold.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:17

    i prefer davidson to brundle. brundle is boring. flick between 5live and bbc during a race, it's like walking out of a rave and into a church.

    :D:D:D

    brilliant...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:17

    Whaaat? Can't we get re-assigned next race?? I'm not having Kubica forever.... I might fall asleep.

    can we keep getting assigned each race till i get Jenson? and then can we stop? :P

    Not until I get Hamilton!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:17

    i prefer davidson to brundle. brundle is boring. flick between 5live and bbc during a race, it's like walking out of a rave and into a church.

    My God, you really hit the nail on the head there! Well done! :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:17

    You know what? I would much rather have Ant and Crofty make a few slip ups and keep me awake and excited than the borodrome that is Legard - who also makes tons of fundamental errors (not small slipups). He is so boring it is badly affecting Brundle's commentary...

    hear, hear. you've got it bang on. it's like they're asleep in the box.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:18

    brilliant...

    Hell that deserves a photoshop.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:18

    Everyone is allowed mistakes - Murray made a career off them!

    damn good point.

    i agree wholeheartedly following a personal favourite made by myself.....

    Me: "Theres steam coming off the engine"

    "There can't be"

    Me: "Yup, i'm watching it"

    "Is it blue steam?"

    Me: "Nope, its regular steam"

    "The engine is water cooled, there is absolutely no way it can be steam"

    Me: "oh"

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:18

    Hell that deserves a photoshop.

    :)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:18

    i'll be honest here. you don't have all the facts at your disposal, it wasn't that straightforward.

    I know Honda have access to all his data and didn't sign him. I know people move from one team to another all the time and none of them have signed him. I have watched his whole career and never seen anything special. Sato beat him in F3 and F1 and no-one is suggesting he should be at the top of a the queue for any drive.

    You can say we don't have all the facts about anything we discuss here. All we can do is look at the available evidence and draw our own conclusions. All anyone ever says about him was that he was quicker than the race drivers in Friday practise but that is not a fair comparison and he was not the only reserve driver who did that

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:19

    i prefer davidson to brundle. brundle is boring. flick between 5live and bbc during a race, it's like walking out of a rave and into a church.

    excellent :-)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:21

    Piquet too. Not so well though.

    Outrageous!

    (but true)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:25

    Did my PK-Positivity kill the debate? :oops:

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:25

    Gosh, legard is so boring even photoshopping him is bland.

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:25

    You can say we don't have all the facts about anything we discuss here. All we can do is look at the available evidence and draw our own conclusions.

    that's fair. i was telling you though, that in this case it wasn't as straightforward as you presented it.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:25

    Did my PK-Positivity kill the debate? ops:">

    I was absorbing that positiviting

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:26

    Did my PK-Positivity kill the debate?

    using your own past reasoning nick. shouldn't we be calling piquet CHEAT, from here on in?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:27

    I was absorbing that positiviting

    hehe good"

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:27

    using your own past reasoning nick. shouldn't we be calling piquet CHEAT, from here on in?

    aha

    BUSTED

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:27

    You can say we don't have all the facts about anything we discuss here. All we can do is look at the available evidence and draw our own conclusions.

    that's fair. i was telling you though, that in this case it wasn't as straightforward as you presented it.

    I think Fisi this weekend proved that an F1 driver's real pace is not always straightforward either...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:28

    using your own past reasoning nick. shouldn't we be calling piquet CHEAT, from here on in?

    It was all Flavs Fault!

    and he goes beyond CHEAT to "FAIL"

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:29

    that's fair. i was telling you though, that in this case it wasn't as straightforward as you presented it.

    All I am saying is if you look at the available evidence there is nothing to suggest he is anything special.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:30

    All I am saying is if you look at the available evidence there is nothing to suggest he is anything special.

    He makes the race more enjoyable though, which is not something brundle has done for years...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:30

    I think Fisi this weekend proved that an F1 driver's real pace is not always straightforward either...

    But what did we learn that we din't know about him already? He is the kind of driver who on his day with luck can run at the front an win occasioanlly. We always knew that.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:31

    Gosh, legard is so boring even photoshopping him is bland.

    eheh

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:31

    All I am saying is if you look at the available evidence there is nothing to suggest he is anything special.

    to a point, i agree. people aren't rushing to sign him up and that must mean something.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:32

    He makes the race more enjoyable though, which is not something brundle has done for years...

    I disagree about Brundle. Brundle has won something like 6 technical commentator awards and that is open to commentators in all sports coverage in the UK

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:32

    I disagree about Brundle. Brundle has won something like 6 technical commentator awards and that is open to commentators in all sports coverage in the UK

    they also gave ITV multiple awards...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:33

    I disagree about Brundle. Brundle has won something like 6 technical commentator awards and that is open to commentators in all sports coverage in the UK

    And ITV won sports programme of the year several years in a row....

    He wasnt really up against any competition though as F1 is the most technical sport around...

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:34

    He wasnt really up against any competition though as F1 is the most technical sport around...

    good point. and during his time on itv, who was commentating on 5live... legard.

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:34

    I'm going mad. I just spent 2 minuts photoshopping david frost into a 5 live picture....

    *facepalm*

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:34

    He wasnt really up against any competition though as F1 is the most technical sport around...

    No-one before him ever won the award and the football guys have a lot more exposure and bigger audiences

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 21:35

    Evening all

    I like Brundle's & Ant's commentary.. If it wasn't for Legard, I wouldn't be listening to 5Live

    The BBC should be aware of that fact, I bet I am not alone

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:35

    I'm going mad. I just spent 2 minuts photoshopping david frost into a 5 live picture....

    ehehehehe :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:35

    No-one before him ever won the award and the football guys have a lot more exposure and bigger audiences

    who was before him? murray and hunt?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:36

    No-one before him ever won the award and the football guys have a lot more exposure and bigger audiences

    Im not saying he isnt good, I just dont think he is as good as many people have made him out to be, especialy this year

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:37

    The BBC should be aware of that fact, I bet I am not alone

    Most people dislike Legard. I find I can tune him out but still take in the inforamation he gives out which I couldn't do with James Allen. I just found him too annoying which is a shame because he clearly knows a lot more of the sport which comes across in his writing but never did live.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:37

    No-one before him ever won the award and the football guys have a lot more exposure and bigger audiences

    who was before him? murray and hunt?

    Murray and FacePalmer. Think Legard, halve the charisma and halve it again and you have Jonathan FacePalmer as a commentator

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:37

    who was before him? murray and hunt?

    Murray and Jonathan Palmer and before that Hunt

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:37

    who was before him? murray and hunt?

    He should have won the award for this alone

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:38

    He should have won the award for this alone

    LOL, i love murrays reaction

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:39

    He should have won the award for this alone

    LOL, i love murrays reaction

    Brilliant!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:40

    Sorry, just realised that probably should have had a language warning on it...

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:40

    Murray and FacePalmer. Think Legard, halve the charisma and halve it again and you have Jonathan FacePalmer as a commentator

    Oddly enough, one of the longer-length classic Spa races the BBC featured last week had Palmer on commentary... and he wasn't bad at all.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:41

    Sorry, just realised that probably should have had a language warning on it...

    it had it in the title :)

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 21:42

    one of the IRL teams gave Pressdog a Banana-gram..

    http://pressdog.typepad.com/dogblog/2009/08/live-from-chicagoland-speedway-82809-part-3-bananogram.html

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:42

    Murray and FacePalmer. Think Legard, halve the charisma and halve it again and you have Jonathan FacePalmer as a commentator

    Oddly enough, one of the longer-length classic Spa races the BBC featured last week had Palmer on commentary... and he wasn't bad at all.

    No he wasn't - but I do remember a lot of GP's when I was a kid when he just went on and on and on...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:44

    one of the IRL teams gave Pressdog a Banana-gram..

    http://pressdog.typepad.com/dogblog/2009/08/live-from-chicagoland-speedway-82809-part-3-bananogram.html

    hehe, thats great! now if Ferrari could send sidepodcast a Car-gram... :D

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:45

    I have no idea if this has been posted before, but this may be evidence that monosyllablic Kimi is just his idea of a joke

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:46

    Based on mr c's assesment, the atmosphere difference between the two main feeds... ;)

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/commentarybattle-jpg

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 21:46

    I have no idea if this has been posted before, but this may be evidence that monosyllablic Kimi is just his idea of a joke

    I like Kimi's style, always have done

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:47

    I have no idea if this has been posted before, but this may be evidence that monosyllablic Kimi is just his idea of a joke

    I think he wouldnt answer because the questions were stupid!!!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:47
  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:48

    Based on mr c's assesment, the atmosphere difference between the two main feeds... ;)

    hehehe, brilliant! You should send it to 5livef1!

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:48

    #sidepodspace

    The first spacewalk of the mission will start in the next few minutes. The astronauts are in an airlock which is de-pressurising and after they have done some final suit checks they will be heading out fr a 6 and a half iur stroll to disconnect a spent ammonia tank. The spacewalk was scheduled to start at 10:49 so it is right on shcedule

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 21:48

    Based on mr c's assesment, the atmosphere difference between the two main feeds... ;)

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/commentarybattle-jpg

    He he, if there wasn't so much copy-written material involved, you should have your own website for this stuff.

    Quality!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:48

    I have no idea if this has been posted before, but this may be evidence that monosyllablic Kimi is just his idea of a joke

    I like Kimi's style, always have done

    I absolutely hate it. His reaction on sunday was appalling. I'm sorry, but if you can't get excited about winning at Spa after a 25 race drought then you should go and do some rallying or something...

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:49

    He he, if there wasn't so much copy-written material involved, you should have your own website for this stuff.

    Yeah I can't risk getting sued by... well... everyone. :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:50

    Based on mr c's assesment, the atmosphere difference between the two main feeds... ;)

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/commentarybattle-jpg

    Radio 5 Live Pints of Awesome, my friend! :D :D :D

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:50

    Oddly enough, one of the longer-length classic Spa races the BBC featured last week had Palmer on commentary... and he wasn't bad at all.

    Palmer was very dry but he is very technical. I never felt he was a good combinatio with Murray. Brundle's personality fitted better.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 21:50

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/commentarybattle-jpg

    You've missed the opportunity to give Legard a dog collar while he's in that dark shirt :P

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:50

    oh my goodness!!!

    andypriaulx: "I've really missed you guys! What's happening?"

    I'm going to have to resist telling him that Mr C killed ringo star. grrrr

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:50

    Based on mr c's assesment, the atmosphere difference between the two main feeds... ;)

    eheheheh :D

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:51

    You've missed the opportunity to give Legard a dog collar while he's in that dark shirt :P

    I didn';t want to terrify people too much. I had to have that effect as well because quite simply, you have to try your best to simply see straight past his inane commentary!!

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:51

    Based on mr c's assesment, the atmosphere difference between the two main feeds... ;)

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/commentarybattle-jpg

    you have to tweet them that :)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:52

    No he wasn't - but I do remember a lot of GP's when I was a kid when he just went on and on and on...

    I remember reading an interview with a Tyrrell engineer who was discussing drivers and for some reason his Palmer comment is burned into my brain. He said Palmer got top marks for verbosity and note taking. Of course nowadays with telemetry and long debriefs those would be good things.

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:52

    I absolutely hate it. His reaction on sunday was appalling. I'm sorry, but if you can't get excited about winning at Spa after a 25 race drought then you should go and do some rallying or something...

    he look happy here?

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 21:52

    Jut had a look on twitter, If USF1 do switch to toyota engines, would they run Kaz or would he go to the factory team?

    I dont see what they would loose by having him there to be honest.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:52

    I absolutely hate it. His reaction on sunday was appalling. I'm sorry, but if you can't get excited about winning at Spa after a 25 race drought then you should go and do some rallying or something...

    he look happy here?

    But you can't see his face so how can you tell?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:53

    I absolutely hate it. His reaction on sunday was appalling. I'm sorry, but if you can't get excited about winning at Spa after a 25 race drought then you should go and do some rallying or something...

    I think he may take your advice

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:53

    Jut had a look on twitter, If USF1 do switch to toyota engines, would they run Kaz or would he go to the factory team?

    I dont see what they would loose by having him there to be honest.

    They would probably lose a few wings and wheels I reckon... ;)

  • me01/09/2009 at 21:53

    But you can't see his face so how can you tell?

    his arms are over his head. unless he's stretching?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:53

    But you can't see his face so how can you tell?

    yeah ya can! just

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 21:54

    he look happy here?

    For a moment I thought that was Badoer just happy to finish before 7pm...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:54

    Based on mr c's assesment, the atmosphere difference between the two main feeds... ;)

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:56

    But you can't see his face so how can you tell?

    yeah ya can! just

    He doesn't look happy - his eyes look sleepy - nothing like Jenson's eyes when he won at Hungary 2006

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:57

    I think he may take your advice

    He said at the weekend he would be in F1 next year

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:57

    He doesn't look happy - his eyes look sleepy - nothing like Jenson's eyes when he won at Hungary 2006

    that was his first race, in a car that was rubbish, im sure kimi looked happy on his first

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 21:58

    He doesn't look happy - his eyes look sleepy - nothing like Jenson's eyes when he won at Hungary 2006

    That was his first win after 100 attempts

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:59

    that was his first race, in a car that was rubbish, im sure kimi looked happy on his first

    the ra106 wasn't a rubbish car! not after Hungary anyways... he scored more points in the latter half of 2006 than any other driver... the ra107 and ra108 were rubbish cars :(

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 21:59

    That was his first win after 100 attempts

    the pressure on him was huge from the media, every race after 100 he was seen as just a rubbish driver

  • lou01/09/2009 at 21:59

    That was his first win after 100 attempts

    113 actually ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 21:59

    I think he may take your advice

    He said at the weekend he would be in F1 next year

    Unless Ferrari dump him? All they have to do is pay him out - perhaps Kimi is just holding out for that rather than retire on his own accord?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:00

    He said at the weekend he would be in F1 next year

    Unless Ferrari dump him? All they have to do is pay him out - perhaps Kimi is just holding out for that rather than retire on his own accord?

    Yeah, it was probably a "ill be in F1 next year (to my knowledge)"

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:00

    Unless Ferrari dump him? All they have to do is pay him out - perhaps Kimi is just holding out for that rather than retire on his own accord?

    If he says he would rather have the drive then the cash then they could be in line for a massive pay out unless they keep him in the car...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 22:00

    He doesn't look happy - his eyes look sleepy - nothing like Jenson's eyes when he won at Hungary 2006

    that was his first race, in a car that was rubbish, im sure kimi looked happy on his first

    The point is, he looked happy and excited - Kimi just doesn't.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:00
  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 22:01

    Unless Ferrari dump him? All they have to do is pay him out - perhaps Kimi is just holding out for that rather than retire on his own accord?

    If he says he would rather have the drive then the cash then they could be in line for a massive pay out unless they keep him in the car...

    That's what I think he is aiming for - it's obvious his skill is there but the passion has gone for the sport...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:01

    Unless Ferrari dump him? All they have to do is pay him out - perhaps Kimi is just holding out for that rather than retire on his own accord?

    Ferrari can'tjust dump him if his contract is written like DC's were and I am sure he can afford decent lawyers.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:01

    For Mr C

    I watched that, i have no idea what was going on, but brundle and allen were strangely quiet...

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:02

    For Mr C

    love it. weird that toyota weren't even remotely surprised. did they think it was ralf?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 22:02

    Unless Ferrari dump him? All they have to do is pay him out - perhaps Kimi is just holding out for that rather than retire on his own accord?

    Ferrari can'tjust dump him if his contract is written like DC's were and I am sure he can afford decent lawyers.

    Which is why I think Kimi is holding out for a payout...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)01/09/2009 at 22:02

    Night all...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:02

    The point is, he looked happy and excited - Kimi just doesn't.

    You don't know what Kimi's motivation is, he may be incredibly happy, just not show it. I know plenty of people like that. Kimi isnt a typical F1 driver, he's an amazing racing driver, you don't get a driver like him in your team and expect him to be good at PR or be happy and jolly all the time

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 22:02

    Night all...

    Night Gavin

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:02

    The point is, he looked happy and excited - Kimi just doesn't.

    But Kimi has never been expressive. When Ferrari thought he was so good they kicked Schumacher out for him he wasn't expressive. I don't see the problem with that

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:03

    love it. weird that toyota weren't even remotely surprised. did they think it was ralf?

    He obviously saw "Schumacher" and just went for it.

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:03

    I watched that, i have no idea what was going on, but brundle and allen were strangely quiet...

    he cashed heavily in melbourne on the main straight. he was a bit dazed but walked back to the pits.

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 22:03

    that was his first race, in a car that was rubbish, im sure kimi looked happy on his first

    He probably looked the same as he did this Sunday. This is how he is, just because he isn't jumping up and down with joy doesn't mean he is any less happy.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 22:03

    Night all...

    night Gavin :)

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:04

    night Gavin

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:05

    He probably looked the same as he did this Sunday. This is how he is, just because he isn't jumping up and down with joy doesn't mean he is any less happy.

    Agreed, just because he dosent act what we would consider normal dosent mean he's not jumping for joy inside. He is the type of guy that isnt a public shower, he does things in private.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:05

    That's what I think he is aiming for - it's obvious his skill is there but the passion has gone for the sport...

    I don't see that. He has been on the podium at the last three races with no competition in the team. He could be running round 1 second a lap slower and no-one would be any the wiser. I don't see any change in him

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:05

    Night all...

    Night

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:05

    Unless Ferrari dump him? All they have to do is pay him out - perhaps Kimi is just holding out for that rather than retire on his own accord?

    All they have to do is provide a massive cheque. No mean feat, not saying it won't happen, just...

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:05

    Awww!! Lance Armstrongs son (who looks about 2 weeks old) has a twitter account. Tis quite amusing

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 22:05

    Night Gavin

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:06

    Night Gavin

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:06

    See ya Gavin

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:07

    If you google f1 iphone app the first thing i get is the sidepodcast blog post on it... does that mean you should get one free?

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:08

    love it. weird that toyota weren't even remotely surprised. did they think it was ralf?

    Looked like he was avoiding the cameras

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:08

    All they have to do is provide a massive cheque. No mean feat, not saying it won't happen, just...

    It may be more complicated than that. When there were rumours lastseason that DC's drive was under threat he said that his contract was written in such a way that RBR had to give him a car.

    I expect Kimi to be at McLaren next year if he leaves Ferrari

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:08

    I expect Kimi to be at McLaren next year if he leaves Ferrari

    I hope so

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:09

    If you google f1 iphone app the first thing i get is the sidepodcast blog post on it... does that mean you should get one free?

    That means they sould get a royalty from each one sold

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:09

    If you google f1 iphone app the first thing i get is the sidepodcast blog post on it... does that mean you should get one free?

    hehe. i need to do a proper review on that this week. am waiting on a certainly guest poster...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:09

    All they have to do is provide a massive cheque. No mean feat, not saying it won't happen, just...

    Law suit for damaging future earnings for someone on $40Million a year... BIG CHEQUE!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:10

    I hope so

    Me too, the drivers i want to see in a top car next year are;

    Kimi, Felipe, Lewis, Alonso, Rosberg, Fisi, Sutil, Jenson, Rubens, Vettel, Webber,

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:11

    hehe. i need to do a proper review on that this week. am waiting on a certainly guest poster...

    Yes, I know... :)

    I'll see if I can get some work done on it tomorrow, I'm in early so will be home in the evening

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:11

    hehe. i need to do a proper review on that this week. am waiting on a certainly guest poster...

    Does that mean it'll be a duet? ;)

  • Kathi01/09/2009 at 22:11

    Kimi, Felipe, Lewis, Alonso, Rosberg, Fisi, Sutil, Jenson, Rubens, Vettel, Webber,

    Kubica?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:11

    hehe. i need to do a proper review on that this week. am waiting on a certainly guest poster...

    Who? Name and shame.

    On the subject of guest posts. I know Christine said she was going to do some sidepodradio posts. Would it be worth asking people to do guest posts on their own shows and running one a day? Saves Christine chasing people for info and writing the posts

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:12

    Kubica?

    umm, yeah him too, although its marginal.

    i'd also like to see Piquet in a fair team with a good car

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:12

    I'll see if I can get some work done on it tomorrow, I'm in early so will be home in the evening

    no worries. i has one billion things to do anyhow.

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:12

    On the subject of guest posts. I know Christine said she was going to do some sidepodradio posts. Would it be worth asking people to do guest posts on their own shows and running one a day? Saves Christine chasing people for info and writing the posts

    sounds ace, yup.

  • lou01/09/2009 at 22:13

    Kimi, Felipe, Lewis, Alonso, Rosberg, Fisi, Sutil, Jenson, Rubens, Vettel, Webber,

    why is Jenson only 8th in that list :P

    nah i agree i'd like to see them in a top car too... well.. not sure if i'm that fussed about Rosberg being in a good car, i've never really paid much attention to him in all honesty.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:13

    There's a Saved By The Bell screenshot on the drop

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/vlcsnap-2009-09-01-23h05m06s95-png

    Any reason?

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:13

    Any reason?

    pugwall was busy.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:13

    Any reason?

    Amy was watching it :D

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 22:13

    There's a Saved By The Bell screenshot on the drop

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/vlcsnap-2009-09-01-23h05m06s95-png

    Wow! Screech has one WILD shirt on there.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:14

    sounds ace, yup.

    OK then everyone with a sidepodradio show get writing. That's telling them.

    Just realised that I have volunteered myself to write two guest posts. Clearly I haven't thought this through properly.

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:15

    Anyone tried Opera 10 yet?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:15

    Any reason?

    With all the things that have ever appeared there you think that one is worth asking about?

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:16

    Just realised that I have volunteered myself to write two guest posts. Clearly I haven't thought this through properly.

    :D

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:16

    Anyone tried Opera 10 yet?

    yup. doesn't support doohickey noise alerts = fail.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:16

    Is Alison still around?

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:16

    With all the things that have ever appeared there you think that one is worth asking about?

    :D :P

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:16

    With all the things that have ever appeared there you think that one is worth asking about?

    It was the first one I noticed, I usually give up after that

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:16

    yup. doesn't support doohickey noise alerts = fail.

    Embargo!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:17

    Did you get to talk to Joe this evening? i guess you have been on here though...

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:18

    Did you get to talk to Joe this evening? i guess you have been on here though...

    done. christine is asleep, which means i have to get friendly with logic, or leave it for her tomorrow. am procrastinating in the comments.

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 22:18

    Is Alison still around?

    Yes.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:18

    done. christine is asleep, which means i have to get friendly with logic, or leave it for her tomorrow. am procrastinating in the comments.

    Awesome... :D

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:19

    done. christine is asleep, which means i have to get friendly with logic, or leave it for her tomorrow. am procrastinating in the comments.

    go man go! only milky bar's would make her happy than you doing the edit!

  • me01/09/2009 at 22:19

    go man go! only milky bar's would make her happy than you doing the edit!

    bugger. okay. catch you in about 5hrs.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:19

    Yes.

    Some fool volunteered us to write a guest post on our sidepod radio show. Do you fancy making a start on it while I do my sidepodspace one?

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:20

    bugger. okay. catch you in about 5hrs.

    aha, you will score massive brownie points! its worth it

  • Chris01/09/2009 at 22:20

    done. christine is asleep, which means i have to get friendly with logic, or leave it for her tomorrow. am procrastinating in the comments.

    make a copy of the original (if you haven't already) then make a really bad edit. Show it to Christine tomorrow, and she'll do it properly for you, without you asking for it.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:21

    bugger. okay. catch you in about 5hrs.

    I was trying to think of a nice way to say 'shooo' :P

    But you can still pop in, 5 mins on each ;)

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:21

    go man go! only milky bar's would make her happy than you doing the edit!

    Surely in that case he should leave it and deliver Milky Bars tomorrow night. Of course if he forgot the Milky Bars.......

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:21

    done. christine is asleep, which means i have to get friendly with logic, or leave it for her tomorrow. am procrastinating in the comments.

    i hope they have macs at my uni to use, i wanna see what the fuss is about

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 22:22

    Some fool volunteered us to write a guest post on our sidepod radio show. Do you fancy making a start on it while I do my sidepodspace one?

    Hah. Well done! Yes I'll get started with it. Not tonight though, I'm in bed listening to the rain that sounds like it's going to break my roof.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:23

    Hah. Well done! Yes I'll get started with it. Not tonight though, I'm in bed listening to the rain that sounds like it's going to break my roof.

    When i was growing up we lived in a house with a metal roof... i used to love the couple of days a year when it rained!

  • Bassano Clapper01/09/2009 at 22:23

    i hope they have macs at my uni to use, i wanna see what the fuss is about

    You'll be converted if they do

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:24

    You'll be converted if they do

    Am aware yes, not sure how i'll resist spending my student loan on a mac book....

  • Lukeh01/09/2009 at 22:24

    done. christine is asleep, which means i have to get friendly with logic, or leave it for her tomorrow. am procrastinating in the comments.

    make sure you keep an eye on the comments, may be posting something later I know you'll love

  • Andy Taylor01/09/2009 at 22:25

    You'll be converted if they do

    :D

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:25

    :D

    i think you must have a mac-sense

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:27

    Hah. Well done! Yes I'll get started with it. Not tonight though, I'm in bed listening to the rain that sounds like it's going to break my roof.

    I had that earlier. I think all that is needed is a quick description of the show and the type of intput we are looking for.

    I think we should suggest a few topics to get the conversation started. I nicked Dan's suggestion that was mentioned on the Parade Lap. What would you do if you were the CEO of F1 and could change anything? That should get a good response.

    Predictions always work. Not race predictions because then we are taking away from the Parade Lap but predictions like the top three in the championship and who will go where next year and what people expect from the new teams etc.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:28

    When i was growing up we lived in a house with a metal roof... i used to love the couple of days a year when it rained!

    I would love itif we had a couple of days a year where it didn't rain.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:28

    I take it all back about brundle... he said yee-haat spa!

    Now thats excitement :D

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:28

    I take it all back about brundle... he said yee-haat spa!

    Yee-ha at Spa.

    Its a tounge twister!

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:28

    I take it all back about brundle... he said yee-haat spa!

    aha yeah, twas amusing

  • Andy Taylor01/09/2009 at 22:29

    i think you must have a mac-sense

    No, I've been doing other stuff and only just arrived here.

  • Alianora La Canta01/09/2009 at 22:31

    I've just had to pull out of Sidepodradio :(

    You know how the sound card in my computer hasn't been working for weeks? Well, now the PDA has decided it's refusing to talk to my PC, which means I can't even get the audio files off the PDA (which was the only place where I could record anything) to somewhere that made transfer to Sidepodcast Towers plausible.

    I considered sending it over mobile internet (which finally got fixed today), but discovered that the maximum speed of the network is currently 30KB per minute due to the new price structure. This would have given a sending time on the Travels in Sidepodland section alone of about 512 hours - and I didn't think you'd want to delay Sidepodradio for three weeks just to get my contribution...

  • Alison01/09/2009 at 22:31

    I think we should suggest a few topics to get the conversation started. I nicked Dan's suggestion that was mentioned on the Parade Lap. What would you do if you were the CEO of F1 and could change anything? That should get a good response.

    Yeah sounds good! I'll try and remember in the morning.

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 22:33

    I considered sending it over mobile internet (which finally got fixed today), but discovered that the maximum speed of the network is currently 30KB per minute due to the new price structure. This would have given a sending time on the Travels in Sidepodland section alone of about 512 hours - and I didn't think you'd want to delay Sidepodradio for three weeks just to get my contribution...

    Booo. 30KB per minute? Did you move to 1994?

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:34

    I've just had to pull out of Sidepodradio :(

    That's a shame. Is there no way you skype sidepodcast and let them record? I don't like the idea of losing your show for technical reasons after you have put so much effort into it.

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:35

    Yeah sounds good! I'll try and remember in the morning.

    If you need anything from me just let me know

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:41

    Twitter is great (sorry MrC) I told one of the top cricket commentators about how bad the organisation was at the cricket the other day and he actually agreed with me and was interested in what went wrong as well as telling me who to complain to...

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 22:43

    Twitter is great (sorry MrC) I told one of the top cricket commentators about how bad the organisation was at the cricket the other day and he actually agreed with me and was interested in what went wrong as well as telling me who to complain to...

    It's good when you get a response like that

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 22:44

    Twitter is great (sorry MrC) I told one of the top cricket commentators about how bad the organisation was at the cricket the other day and he actually agreed with me and was interested in what went wrong as well as telling me who to complain to...

    oooooo don't get me started.

    No, I will resist.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:46

    oooooo don't get me started.

    You were there?

    I was just annoyed at how obvious it seemed that 7 Tills were not going to be enough to supply half a stadium with beer...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:47

    You were there?

    :P

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 22:47

    You were there?

    No I wasn't there.

  • Jon Waldock01/09/2009 at 22:54

    I was just annoyed at how obvious it seemed that 7 Tills were not going to be enough to supply half a stadium with beer...

    Of course, you'd need lots of fire trucks with beer in and loads of polyfiller to fill the gaps so that no beer would get out, and youd have to invent a new water based cricket game.....

    My work here is done! Night!

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 22:56

    My work here is done! Night!

    hehe, night!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 22:56

    My work here is done! Night!

    night

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 23:01

    Night Jon

  • lou01/09/2009 at 23:08

    Does anyone mind if i plug a few things?

  • lou01/09/2009 at 23:08

    My work here is done! Night!

    night

  • me01/09/2009 at 23:09

    Does anyone mind if i plug a few things?

    please do

    (not here)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:10

    (not here)

    You mean she shouldnt plug things here, or that she should and you are not here? :P

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 23:10

    Does anyone mind if i plug a few things?

    Pipes? Sinks?

  • me01/09/2009 at 23:11

    You mean she shouldnt plug things here, or that she should and you are not here? :P

    nooo.

    i mean, please do... I'M not here. #sorrylou

  • me01/09/2009 at 23:11

    i mean, please do... I'M not here. #sorrylou

    i suck at commenting.

  • guille230601/09/2009 at 23:11

    i suck at commenting.

    and it's your system.. ;-)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 23:12

    please do

    yay!

    okay, i'm not used to this plugging thing... but..

    - Blog about holiday

    - Blog about trip to Valencia

    - Photos taken on holiday

    - Photos taken of Valencia Street Circuit

    phew...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:12

    i suck at commenting.

    You can't!

    You invented it which means you set what is good commenting and what is bad! :D

  • lou01/09/2009 at 23:12

    i mean, please do... I'M not here. #sorrylou

    hehe :) i know what you meant.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:13

    phew...

    #

    You have served up a feast!

  • lou01/09/2009 at 23:14

    You have served up a feast!

    yeah sorry about that... have been working on them all day...

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:14

    #

    This was not me!

  • Pat W01/09/2009 at 23:16

    yay!

    okay, i'm not used to this plugging thing... but..

    big plug! you should re-post in the new daily too.

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 23:16

    phew...

    That's some great stuff Lou. Love the jelly fish.

    Can't look at everything (I am meant to be working) but you have some great photos.

    Not sure I want to read about the holiday, I haven't had one for so long......

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:16

    yeah sorry about that... have been working on them all day...

    Its awesome!

    got me away from Dull & Duller ;)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 23:17

    big plug! you should re-post in the new daily too.

    it's a new day? ah darn it... yeah will do. :)

  • lou01/09/2009 at 23:17

    Can't look at everything (I am meant to be working) but you have some great photos.

    hehe no worries ;)

    Not sure I want to read about the holiday, I haven't had one for so long......

    i was the same, was 3 years since i had a holiday (away from england) before this one :)

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:18

    How is a 90's only radio station bad? :P

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 23:18

    i was the same, was 3 years since i had a holiday (away from england) before this one :)

    You people are so lucky. I wish I could just hop over to a new country

  • Steven Roy01/09/2009 at 23:19

    Does anyone mind if i plug a few things?

    Yes. Well no not really. Plug away

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:21

    You people are so lucky. I wish I could just hop over to a new country

    Another country... go to Tas, its another world! :D

  • Alianora La Canta01/09/2009 at 23:21

    Booo. 30KB per minute? Did you move to 1994? {Comment #1432}

    No - I moved to having a mobile internet at all - it's not been working for a couple of weeks because Virgin changed the access point name. They wouldn't tell me because apparently they don't support my device...

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 23:21

    Another country... go to Tas, its another world! :D

    I'm saving that for a Targa Tassie adventure some day.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:23

    I'm saving that for a Targa Tassie adventure some day.

    Its amazing... Defiantly in my top 3 places along with Hawaii and Bali

  • Paul01/09/2009 at 23:24

    Its amazing... Defiantly in my top 3 places along with Hawaii and Bali

    Have done Hawaii, probably won't do Bali, so maybe I should go sooner.

  • Nick01/09/2009 at 23:27

    Have done Hawaii, probably won't do Bali, so maybe I should go sooner.

    Bali is really good too.

    Snorkling on the north coast was better than the Great Barrier Reef in my experience