No one could have predicted the qualifying order from yesterday, and I wouldn't ask you to have a guess at what's going to happen in the race today. It was great fun though, and am expecting more of the same. Here are some of the things we're talking about:

  • Fisichella and his pole position makes us even more sure that qualifying is better than the race itself, so much so that we decided to hold a poll about it. We prefer Saturday to Sunday but what do you think?
  • Continuing on the same theme, it's worth noting that our results posts for qualifying now have added graph goodness. It's really just there to help me make notes for the Digest, but it adds a bit of colour to the post as well. As Maverick points out in the comments, he has better graphs over on Pitlane Fanatic.
  • Don't forget, if you've got an hour to spare before the race this morning, head back here to tune in to the Parade Lap. Host Alex will guide us through fun and games, as he lives out his radio DJ dreams. He's written about that here, so please tune in to support him.

That'll do it for now, it's going to be a busy day today, but stay tuned to Sidepodcast throughout as we try and figure out what on earth is going on in Belgium. I will see you in the comments.

748 responses

  • Maverick29/08/2009 at 23:12

    Fisichella and his pole position makes us even more sure that qualifying is better than the race itself, so much so that we decided to hold a poll about it. We prefer Saturday to Sunday but what do you think?

    I would I agree but I've always thought the Q1, Q2, Q3 format was genius - each session building up to it's own climax. Furthermore, more often than not, you can see how the race will vaguely pan out from the qualifying positions. However, qualifying was so mixed up today, with it seeming to rely so much on tyres that I've not sure who's going to be where tomorrow. This is the race I've most looked forward to this season, post-qualifying.

    p.s. Thanks for the link

  • Joe in Fla29/08/2009 at 23:50

    Hello all. Shall I mention the second biggest feel good story of the F1 year or has it been beaten to death?

  • Journeyer29/08/2009 at 23:52

    Morning, everyone.

    Hello all. Shall I mention the second biggest feel good story of the F1 year or has it been beaten to death?

    You're talking about Fisi? He's been the talk of the town for the last 12 hours.

  • Steven Roy29/08/2009 at 23:52

    Hello all. Shall I mention the second biggest feel good story of the F1 year or has it been beaten to death?

    I missed quali and thought the AUTOSPORT site had been hacked when I saw the quali results. Then I saw Badoer last and spun and figured it must be legit

  • Pat W29/08/2009 at 23:53

    Hi Joe and Journeyer

  • Journeyer29/08/2009 at 23:53

    I missed quali and thought the AUTOSPORT site had been hacked when I saw the quali results. Then I saw Badoer last and spun and figured it must be legit

    I would be very surprised if we don't see a Turn 1 accident of some sort.

  • Jeremy29/08/2009 at 23:54

    I shall continue the 'Lou goes to bed' conversation over here and ask if I can fill in for Amy until she arrives?

  • Alison29/08/2009 at 23:54

    Hello all. Shall I mention the second biggest feel good story of the F1 year or has it been beaten to death?

    Jenson Button's Australia win? :P

  • Joe in Fla29/08/2009 at 23:54

    You're talking about Fisi? He's been the talk of the town for the last 12 hours.

    I figured as much. A great story. almost as good as Luca on the crux of scoring points

  • gravit8ed29/08/2009 at 23:54

    ...and that was the night I created disco. JUICY AS HELL!

  • Steven Roy29/08/2009 at 23:54

    I would be very surprised if we don't see a Turn 1 accident of some sort.

    Looking at the grid and the weights I am expecting Kimi to disappear into the distance.

  • gravit8ed29/08/2009 at 23:55
  • Steven Roy29/08/2009 at 23:55

    I shall continue the 'Lou goes to bed' conversation over here and ask if I can fill in for Amy until she arrives?

    That is even spookier than Amy turning up just as Lou mentioned her

  • Steven Roy29/08/2009 at 23:56

    Jenson Button's Australia win? :P

    Schumacher's non comeback?

  • Lukeh29/08/2009 at 23:56

    Time for sleepies I think, goodnight spc :)

  • Joe in Fla29/08/2009 at 23:56

    Jenson Button's Australia win? :P

    No, Luca's invevitable points paying positon....come on, I mean, he is in a Ferrari

  • Pat W29/08/2009 at 23:56

    Time for sleepies I think, goodnight spc :)

    night..

  • gravit8ed29/08/2009 at 23:57

    No, Luca's invevitable points paying positon....come on, I mean, he is in a Ferrari

    I'm sayin, hes set to cut through the feild. been sandbagging

  • Jeremy29/08/2009 at 23:57

    Sad day in my household with news on Autosport that Aussie racing legend, Frank Gardner, has passed away. His book is just barely still in existance on my bookshelf - I read it that many times when I was younger

  • Joe in Fla29/08/2009 at 23:57

    Time for sleepies I think, goodnight spc :)

    Good night brother SPCer

  • Joe in Fla29/08/2009 at 23:57

    I'm sayin, hes set to cut through the feild. been sandbagging

    He's wiley, that one

  • Journeyer29/08/2009 at 23:58

    Looking at the grid and the weights I am expecting Kimi to disappear into the distance.

    I got two words for you: Trulli Train.

  • Journeyer29/08/2009 at 23:58

    Sad day in my household with news on Autosport that Aussie racing legend, Frank Gardner, has passed away. His book is just barely still in existance on my bookshelf - I read it that many times when I was younger

    Indeed. Heard about it yesterday. He will be missed.

  • Joe in Fla29/08/2009 at 23:58

    I got two words for you: Trulli Train.

    A Trulli train would be okay with me, if he stayed in front

  • Steven Roy29/08/2009 at 23:59

    Night Lukeh

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:00

    A Trulli train would be okay with me, if he stayed in front

    Him in 2nd would be awesome - would give Fisi a chance to build up some sort of a lead and give him a decent chance at the win.

    It would also allow Mr Button to keep in touch with them.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:00

    Sad day in my household with news on Autosport that Aussie racing legend, Frank Gardner, has passed away. His book is just barely still in existance on my bookshelf - I read it that many times when I was younger

    I saw that story too.

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 00:01

    1 Hour till the IRL race from Chicago, who'll be hanging out to watch it?

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 00:01

    A Trulli train would be okay with me, if he stayed in front

    It never works though, if you're backing everyone up, you just get overtaken by about 8 cars in the pitstops....

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:02

    1 Hour till the IRL race from Chicago, who'll be hanging out to watch it?

    I had 3 hours sleep last night due to NASA so I have to sleep tonight

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 00:02

    I got two words for you: Trulli Train.

    god wouldnt that be awesome?

    1 Hour till the IRL race from Chicago, who'll be hanging out to watch it?

    I might. I could actually watch it live if I wanted next door...no NFL tonight anybody wants to watch, thank jebus

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 00:03

    Him in 2nd would be awesome - would give Fisi a chance to build up some sort of a lead and give him a decent chance at the win.

    I never thought about that option. Very interesting. SpeedTV was reporting that Fisi is being talked about to finish the year for Ferrari. That would be good, because I would love to see Liuzzi back in a race seat

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 00:03

    Tomorrow will give us more on-track passing than the rest of 2009 combined

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:03

    1 Hour till the IRL race from Chicago, who'll be hanging out to watch it?

    I probably will. ;)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 00:04

    I never thought about that option. Very interesting. SpeedTV was reporting that Fisi is being talked about to finish the year for Ferrari. That would be good, because I would love to see Liuzzi back in a race seat

    Again, I've been saying that all weekend. it was obvious he was up to someting in fp2

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 00:04

    I probably will. ;)

    We'll hanging then.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:04

    It never works though, if you're backing everyone up, you just get overtaken by about 8 cars in the pitstops....

    I'm not concerned about Trulli's chances - I'm concerned about Fisi's chances (and the Brawns).

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:04

    I guess Fisi's performance shows what he can do when he thinks there is the possibility of a Ferrari contract.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 00:05

    as much of an LH fas I am, I cant help but get excited for this race and these guys.

    I mean, I was talking trash about toyo never getting close to be in contention and here we are

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 00:05

    1 Hour till the IRL race from Chicago, who'll be hanging out to watch it?

    not sure i can make it... we'll see

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:05

    I guess Fisi's performance shows what he can do when he thinks there is the possibility of a Ferrari contract.

    :D It's like he just woke up!

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:06

    Fisi's pole will more or less kill the notion of backmarker teams.

    Right now, STR is the closest thing you have to a backmarker team. Well, of course there's Badoer, but his teammate's not a backmarker at all...

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:06

    I never thought about that option. Very interesting. SpeedTV was reporting that Fisi is being talked about to finish the year for Ferrari. That would be good, because I would love to see Liuzzi back in a race seat

    I can't believe Ferrari would sign him. Hr is nothing special. They would be better putting someone younger in the car who may respond well to the challenge and give them something for the future. Fisi would be faster than Badoer and would not be running around dead last all the time but Ferrari must have more ambition than that

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:08

    I mean, I was talking trash about toyo never getting close to be in contention and here we are

    Trulli has had so many chances near th frnt and blown all of them. He is fine until one car passes him then it seems to rattle him. Then car after car passes him.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:09

    I can't believe Ferrari would sign him. Hr is nothing special. They would be better putting someone younger in the car who may respond well to the challenge and give them something for the future. Fisi would be faster than Badoer and would not be running around dead last all the time but Ferrari must have more ambition than that

    They do - and he goes by the name of Fernando Alonso. Said newcomer can't be so good that they'd suddenly have 4 drivers and 2 seats to fill. Which is why they could be settling for someone who won't... rock the boat, so to speak.

    Well, there is still the Bianchi option.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:09

    :D It's like he just woke up!

    If I was Mallya I would wait till someone else got the Ferrari drive then fire him for not trying for the rest of the season

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 00:09

    :D It's like he just woke up!

    If you'd been driving

    Trulli has had so many chances near th frnt and blown all of them. He is fine until one car passes him then it seems to rattle him. Then car after car passes him.

    right.

    ohh neighbors are having aparty out back. must check it out. brb

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:09

    Fisi's pole will more or less kill the notion of backmarker teams.

    I disagree. It is just a blip

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:10

    If I was Mallya I would wait till someone else got the Ferrari drive then fire him for not trying for the rest of the season

    Fire the guy who just got your pole position a year earlier than planned? No way! I mean, this pace is probably down to the upgrades they put in.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:10

    They do - and he goes by the name of Fernando Alonso. Said newcomer can't be so good that they'd suddenly have 4 drivers and 2 seats to fill. Which is why they could be settling for someone who won't... rock the boat, so to speak.

    I am talking about filling Massa's seat till the end of the season or he comes back. Alonso won't do that.

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 00:11

    I disagree. It is just a blip

    I was dissappointed that Sutil did not end up in Q3. But 11th isn't bad. Two FI's score in one race.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:11

    I disagree. It is just a blip

    Have you ever seen Minardi take pole? Also, when was the last time both FI's were in the back row?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:12

    Have you ever seen Minardi take pole? Also, when was the last time both FI's were in the back row?

    I saw a Minardi take second on the grid with Martini

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 00:12

    Have you ever seen Minardi take pole?]

    Once

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:13

    I am talking about filling Massa's seat till the end of the season or he comes back. Alonso won't do that.

    I know - but if said newcomer is so good, then he'd be in the frame for a 2010 seat, too. That's what Alonso doesn't want. And if Ferrari seem to want him so bad, they'll just get someone who won't threaten Fernando.

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 00:14

    Once

    Do you mean when they split qualifying into two days and they stumbled ass-backwards into first after the track dried out, but quickly lost pole the next day

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:14

    I saw a Minardi take second on the grid with Martini

    USGP 1990, right? But with the field much tighter now and this pole coming in Round 12 rather than Round 1, this strikes me as very different.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:15

    Do you mean when they split qualifying into two days and they stumbled ass-backwards into first after the track dried out, but quickly lost pole the next day

    I think Martini's P2 was legit.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:15

    I know - but if said newcomer is so good, then he'd be in the frame for a 2010 seat, too. That's what Alonso doesn't want. And if Ferrari seem to want him so bad, they'll just get someone who won't threaten Fernando.

    If they put Bianchi in the seat and he is good they will pack him off to Sauber just like they did with Massa and put him on a long contract.

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 00:15

    Do you mean when they split qualifying into two days and they stumbled ass-backwards into first after the track dried out, but quickly lost pole the next day

    Yep, Magny-Cours.. can't remember the year

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:16

    If they put Bianchi in the seat and he is good they will pack him off to Sauber just like they did with Massa and put him on a long contract.

    What Sauber? Theissen-Sauber is no sure thing right now... And if he's good in a Ferrari right off the bat, why let him go off somewhere else?

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 00:16

    I will be back at 0200 for the IRL race.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:17

    I think Martini's P2 was legit.

    It was. I don't see a Force India getting near the front again this season. I still don't understand how it happened today because they have not looked like they had that pace all weekend.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:18

    It was. I don't see a Force India getting near the front again this season. I still don't understand how it happened today because they have not looked like they had that pace all weekend.

    If they do well here, they might surprise us at a track like, say, Suzuka.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:19

    What Sauber? Theissen-Sauber is no sure thing right now... And if he's good in a Ferrari right off the bat, why let him go off somewhere else?

    Because they have at lest two and possibly three signed drivers for next season already plus they want to add another car for the ghost of Xmas past.

    BMW have to unload the team. The idea that they can just turn it into an R&D centre is crazy. Theissen and Sauber will get it and put Ferrari engines in the car and probably badge them as Petronas before.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:21

    Because they have at lest two and possibly three signed drivers for next season already plus they want to add another car for the ghost of Xmas past.

    Are they serious with this 3rd car for Schumi thing? Given his condition, that's like... nuts!

    BMW have to unload the team. The idea that they can just turn it into an R&D centre is crazy. Theissen and Sauber will get it and put Ferrari engines in the car and probably badge them as Petronas before.

    You could be right. We shall see.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:23

    If they do well here, they might surprise us at a track like, say, Suzuka.

    I don't see how they can stay near the front in the race. I expect to see Fisi, Trulli and Heidfeld heading backwards. It is a shame we are not running to next years rules. Imagine they had don that with everyone qualifying with no fuel and with no pit stops for them to lose out on strategy. The first ten laps tomorrow would be incredible as the faster guys make their way forward and have to actually pass the guys at the front instead of sitting their till they pit and then putting in 5 or 10 quick laps and coming out of the pits ahead.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 00:24

    Are they serious with this 3rd car for Schumi thing? Given his condition, that's like... nuts!

    That's Ferrari. We also have more cars entered for next season than for several years.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 00:27

    I don't see how they can stay near the front in the race. I expect to see Fisi, Trulli and Heidfeld heading backwards. It is a shame we are not running to next years rules. Imagine they had don that with everyone qualifying with no fuel and with no pit stops for them to lose out on strategy. The first ten laps tomorrow would be incredible as the faster guys make their way forward and have to actually pass the guys at the front instead of sitting their till they pit and then putting in 5 or 10 quick laps and coming out of the pits ahead.

    Indeed. Well, you never know. We didn't expect these results in a dry quali. Let's just see what the race gives us.

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 00:47

    I'm working my way through the Sidepodroadtrip comments :-)

  • Jeremy (GMT 10)30/08/2009 at 00:49

    Fisi's pole will more or less kill the notion of backmarker teams.

    I see them as the McLaren 'B' team. I expected them to be closer to the front all season. They are finally making the most of the relationship.

    Did they just luck into the right aero package for the weekend? We'll see.

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:00

    Has anyone else noticed that Jonathan Summerton has dissappeared from the Firestone Indy Lights series. I suspect he's getting fitted for a seat with USF1

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 01:03

    Has anyone else noticed that Jonathan Summerton has dissappeared from the Firestone Indy Lights series. I suspect he's getting fitted for a seat with USF1

    thought he was in Atlantics but I haven't paid a lot of attention

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:04

    Sorry everyone waiting to live comment on the IRL race, it'll be about another hour before they go green

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 01:04

    I made it to 2am but I can't manage any more so no live IRL for me.. night all

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:04

    thought he was in Atlantics but I haven't paid a lot of attention

    True, but he seemed all motivated for the FIL series, but then faded away....I really think he's got one of the USF1 gigs

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:05

    I made it to 2am but I can't manage any more so no live IRL for me.. night all

    See you Pat

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 01:13

    JOE! in FL! MEE TOO!

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 01:14

    got tapped to take photos for neighbors not-bar-mitzpha-cause they're latino or something party

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:14

    JOE! in FL! MEE TOO!

    Summerton for the gig or you're in Fla too?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 01:14

    be back in a bit but we have to chat

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 01:14

    florida. Jacksonville

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 01:15

    I doubled the american F1 fan count here at SPC, you know... me and you

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:15

    florida. Jacksonville

    I lived in Atlantic Beach for a while and in Green Cove Springs

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:16

    I doubled the american F1 fan count here at SPC, you know... me and you

    roger that, my brother

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 01:16

    too rich for my blood. riverside, FTW! I like the neighborhood down here, close to five points

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:17

    too rich for my blood. riverside, FTW! I like the neighborhood down here, close to five points

    Yeah been there. I worked for Clay County Fire/Rescue but moved onto greener pastures

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 01:18

    Yeah been there. I worked for Clay County Fire/Rescue but moved onto greener pastures

    working on that myself...fired off a "i'd be happy to mop your floors' @ USF1 email to peter windsor the other day. Finger crossed - would be a dream

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 01:19

    will be back. for sure tomorrow - managed to sleep through quali last night, kicking self repeatedly

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:20

    working on that myself...fired off a "i'd be happy to mop your floors' @ USF1 email to peter windsor the other day. Finger crossed - would be a dream

    Good luck! My real dream is Scott Speed and Summerton in the seats. I really used to love to go to five points, some really great shops in that area

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:20

    will be back. for sure tomorrow - managed to sleep through quali last night, kicking self repeatedly

    If you're out, talk to you later

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 01:58

    Yawn yawn yawn. It's too late.... :(

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:59

    Okay, if anyone is still awake, there'll be live commenting on the IRL race starting soon

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 01:59

    Yawn yawn yawn. It's too late.... :(

    Too late...too late for what?

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 02:00

    Too late...too late for what?

    Awakeness! Certainly too late for listening to noisy cars!

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 02:02

    Awakeness! Certainly too late for listening to noisy cars!

    Never too late for that, Missy. But if it means you need sleep for the F1 race, then I can let you go

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 02:03

    I'm waiting for my bf to ring me. Then I can go to sleep....

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 02:04

    I'm waiting for my bf to ring me. Then I can go to sleep....

    www.indycar.com

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 02:05

    www.indycar.com

    I hope you're not expecting me to understand what's going on..... I'm pretty new to F1, anything else is totally beyond me!

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 02:06

    I hope you're not expecting me to understand what's going on..... I'm pretty new to F1, anything else is totally beyond me!

    It's just about people running really fast in a circle. But Indycar.com has the best fan access, maybe you can be enlightened.

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 02:07

    I think I watched the last race here with folks. The website was really good as I recall.

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 02:08

    I think I watched the last race here with folks. The website was really good as I recall.

    It's is and I am able to watch the race in HD, unlike F1

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 02:16

    Oh my god, 0.8 seconds separating 10 cars.... That's lethal! How can they get that close?

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 02:17

    Oh my god, 0.8 seconds separating 10 cars.... That's lethal! How can they get that close?

    Dont really know, but fun to watch

  • Joe in Fla30/08/2009 at 02:18

    Sarah Fisher working the feild, go girl!

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 02:27

    It's is and I am able to watch the race in HD, unlike F1

    I've been very annoyed with this this year b/c I left my TV in Iowa when I moved to FL. Only this weekend have I found any live streams thanks to the good folks here at SPC

  • Jeremy (GMT +10)30/08/2009 at 02:27

    Word (ok, name) of the day: Kronofogdemyndigheten

    see this article about Sweden's government operated debt collection agencies link to the Pirate Bay:

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/08/swedish-court-rules-tpb-admins-too-broke-to-pay-damages.ars

  • Jeremy (GMT +10)30/08/2009 at 02:28

    You just need a tv tuner for your computer. solves most problems in my life :P

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 02:30

    I've been very annoyed with this this year b/c I left my TV in Iowa when I moved to FL. Only this weekend have I found any live streams thanks to the good folks here at SPC

    Nice to see we've been able to help you out. :)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 02:32

    You just need a tv tuner for your computer. solves most problems in my life :P

    yeah still requires an active cable connection, and I'm not really looking to fork over any amount of $$$ to the local cable company if I can avoid it. They're truly the lowest of the low. Comcast Cable. Look into it :\

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 02:33

    I should mention I know how to make the connection myself, but I would much rather participate in a legal system for F1 content, simply because I believe in it much more than the other things I d/l regardless of copyright issues (movies)

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 02:35

    I should mention I know how to make the connection myself, but I would much rather participate in a legal system for F1 content, simply because I believe in it much more than the other things I d/l regardless of copyright issues (movies)

    legal system for F1 content? does not compute. :D just kidding. it's just that bernie makes it so difficult to watch F1 if you don't have a broadcaster showing it.

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 02:39

    You should be able to watch it an FOM site, even if they make it pay per view.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 02:40

    You should be able to watch it an FOM site, even if they make it pay per view.

    Bernie is too concerned with his TV revenue - he doesn't want it going down in any way. He doesn't want to compete against his own broadcasters.

    At least that's how he sees it, anyway.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 02:41

    You should be able to watch it an FOM site, even if they make it pay per view.

    Again, I'll point out that once the live coverage is over, nobody is going to be infringing and if they do a good job with the coverage live is where its at.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 02:41

    nobody in their right mind want to wait for a delayed race unless they've got serious problems

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 02:42

    You should be able to watch it an FOM site, even if they make it pay per view.

    Evening everyone,

    I actually wish that F1 would follow the same thing which the NFL does. What they do is have a independent subsidiary film the games and have them archived and show them liberally in markets around the world. The NFL makes a profit on this, it isn't much but it does an infinite amount of good in marketing and promoting the sport.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 02:42

    Not to mention they already offer live timing and scoring so most passionate viewers are already watching some form of covereage via PC/internets

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 02:43

    I actually wish that F1 would follow the same thing which the NFL does. What they do is have a independent subsidiary film the games and have them archived and show them liberally in markets around the world. The NFL makes a profit on this, it isn't much but it does an infinite amount of good in marketing and promoting the sport.

    NFL Films? They're cool - and the narration is quite something. :D

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 02:49

    I should point out it's taken nearly 8 hours to get a decent d/l of quali this morning...talk about anticipation

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 02:51
  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 02:52

    I should point out it's taken nearly 8 hours to get a decent d/l of quali this morning...talk about anticipation

    heheh. ;) you haven't watched it yet? you'll enjoy it - for sure! :D

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 02:52
  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 02:59

    NFL Films? They're cool - and the narration is quite something. :D

    They had two of the best sports voice over guys I have ever heard: John Facenda and Harry Kalas. Plus the who NFL films soundtrack still sends shivers down my spine and makes me want to start tailgating at Qwest. I am so glad I renewed my Seahawks season tickets this year.

    Back to F1. It amazes me more and more every day how inept F1 comes to new media and exploiting on-line technology. Even the IRL is broadcast in HD, and live timing that have bells and whistles we could only dream of. It still blows my mind.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:01

    Back to F1. It amazes me more and more every day how inept F1 comes to new media and exploiting on-line technology. Even the IRL is broadcast in HD, and live timing that have bells and whistles we could only dream of. It still blows my mind.

    And they have only just now managed on board HD cameras in most cars - not sure if they've even got them in all of them yet. un frickin believable, I've got a kodak HD camera that weights about 4 ounces and acan film several hours worth of HD for about $200

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 03:02

    They had two of the best sports voice over guys I have ever heard: John Facenda and Harry Kalas. Plus the who NFL films soundtrack still sends shivers down my spine and makes me want to start tailgating at Qwest. I am so glad I renewed my Seahawks season tickets this year.

    And that's the thing - their style of delivery has changed little over the decades, yet it still has the same power and the same effect.

    Back to F1. It amazes me more and more every day how inept F1 comes to new media and exploiting on-line technology. Even the IRL is broadcast in HD, and live timing that have bells and whistles we could only dream of. It still blows my mind.

    IRL has to do it when they're so far behind popularity-wise. Bernie will only do it if he needs to, I think. I hope whoever succeeds Bernie in the future will go down this path.

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 03:03

    And they have only just now managed on board HD cameras in most cars - not sure if they've even got them in all of them yet. un frickin believable, I've got a kodak HD camera that weights about 4 ounces and acan film several hours worth of HD for about $200

    Why do I get the feeling that Bernie is the type of guy who would never leaves a tip despite being worth billions.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 03:04

    And they have only just now managed on board HD cameras in most cars - not sure if they've even got them in all of them yet. un frickin believable, I've got a kodak HD camera that weights about 4 ounces and acan film several hours worth of HD for about $200

    so the technology is definitely there - it's just a question of what Bernie will do.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:04

    hows that IRL race? I'm d/ling, torrenting, updating itunes and streaming a live set from my friends studio in Iowa City. Not sure my pc or wireless card could cope

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 03:05

    hows that IRL race? I'm d/ling, torrenting, updating itunes and streaming a live set from my friends studio in Iowa City. Not sure my pc or wireless card could cope

    my bandwidth can't handle the video. audio is telling me that the racing is close right now.

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 03:06

    Oh my sweet lord, those pitstops are so so dangerous!

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 03:07

    hows that IRL race? I'm d/ling, torrenting, updating itunes and streaming a live set from my friends studio in Iowa City. Not sure my pc or wireless card could cope

    It not as good as it was in the CART days. Personally, they have way too many ovals on the schedule and they need to get away from the standard chassis and engine. The good news is that they are opening things up the next few years.

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 03:08

    Oh my sweet lord, those pitstops are so so dangerous!

    What are you watching?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:11

    dan - yeah the engine/chassis thing is the only major compaint I have (oval issues aside, I agree 100%, we've already got enough left-turn-only series out there).

    And the technology has existed for a long time, but yeah bernie is the kind of d-bag who leaves a straight 10% tip if that...

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 03:19

    dan - yeah the engine/chassis thing is the only major compaint I have (oval issues aside, I agree 100%, we've already got enough left-turn-only series out there).

    The thing that I never got with the IRL is why do they try to out-NASCAR NASCAR. CART was strong because it was an compelling alternative to NASCAR in every way. It makes me want to pull my hair out.

    And the technology has existed for a long time, but yeah bernie is the kind of d-bag who leaves a straight 10% tip if that...

    Actually, I think he makes someone else tip and when they get up to leave, he takes the tip off the table.

    What a terrible reputation to have.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 03:21

    The thing that I never got with the IRL is why do they try to out-NASCAR NASCAR. CART was strong because it was an compelling alternative to NASCAR in every way. It makes me want to pull my hair out.

    Lack of imagination? Or maybe this was Tony George's vision of what he wanted when he split with CART?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:23

    What a terrible reputation to have.

    rofl

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 03:24

    Lack of imagination? Or maybe this was Tony George's vision of what he wanted when he split with CART?

    What I find ironic is that when Tony George split the series, he cited too much power with the powerful team, (mainly Penske and Newman-Haas) and too many foreign drivers in the series. Now look at the IRL. The top four drivers in the league are from outside the US and the league is dominated by two team, Penske and Ganassi.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:25

    wow those in car views are fantastic. being able to ride w/them around a couple laps really give you a better feel for what these guys do.

    IRL-CART was complete BS. Lets not get into it, it has single-handedly killed the open wheel image in the US

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 03:26

    a glitch in my laptop shopping plans, shop is closed on sundays

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 03:29

    wow those in car views are fantastic. being able to ride w/them around a couple laps really give you a better feel for what these guys do.

    IRL-CART was complete BS. Lets not get into it, it has single-handedly killed the open wheel image in the US

    I hear ya. I'm still angry. I used to go to the race in Vancouver and Portland almost every year and watch great racing. Now... nothing. I cannot believe we have an open wheel series which Montreal, Road America, Road Atlanta, Portland, Vancouver, Laguna Seca, and Phoenix don't have races.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:29

    another thing I should mention - in the US satellite market, as far as I can tell, the most popular services dont offer speed, or they cost extra, or something, because when I try to watch the F1 races at a local sports bar that opens 7am, I can never find it.

    Much more football centric on this side, and it really sucks

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:30

    ohh I;m so torn; finally completed the download of quili, but this race is heating up a bit, last laps and all

  • Dan Brunell30/08/2009 at 03:33

    another thing I should mention - in the US satellite market, as far as I can tell, the most popular services dont offer speed, or they cost extra, or something, because when I try to watch the F1 races at a local sports bar that opens 7am, I can never find it.

    You can thank Rupert Murdoch. They've done a terrible job with SpeedTV since they bought it when it was Speedvision. The channel has been buried and not only that, reality TV shows and NASCAR coverage has really killed the things that made the old Speedvision great.

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 03:34

    a glitch in my laptop shopping plans, shop is closed on sundays

    Awwww :(

    You're just the person I was looking for! I'm planning a trip to NZ. I have no idea where I should go once I get there.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:36

    dan - you dont have to tell me, man. For the longest time it was all nascar all the time, and they STILL focus on that crap at the expense of any/every other series out there. Even the grassroots sprint and drag series have been left for dead and those are the living arteries of american motorsports. Growing up in Iowa I had 8 or 9 dirt trackers on my street, on a thursday night you could hear the screams of those modified engines all night long.

    *sigh

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:39

    OMG SPLIT SCREEN ON SPECIFIC DRIVERS!?!?!?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:50

    WOW that was a close finsih

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 03:57

    i found another shop that google says is open so i am on a train!

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 03:58

    was wondering where everyone went off to

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 03:58

    ooh alison when i get home i shall help if i can but i never did the tourist in my own country thing so i havent been to a lot of the places people traditionally go :)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:00

    I'm gonna watch quali now, finally.

    Again, the IRL race was very very close, two and three wide right up to the line with, what, .003 of a second between first and second. A matter of inches at a couple hundred miles an hour.

    Ovals arent always the best to watch, but the finishes can be terriffic fun.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:05

    Can't you tell I've been listening to SPC for a while now? I'm even starting to type with a british accent.

    Thanks, christine.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 04:05

    Ovals arent always the best to watch, but the finishes can be terriffic fun.

    I missed the finish. Who won?

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 04:06

    ooh alison when i get home i shall help if i can but i never did the tourist in my own country thing so i havent been to a lot of the places people traditionally go :)

    Hehehe. Yeah, I know that feeling. That'd be really helpful though thanks :)

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 04:09

    I missed the finish. Who won?

    Saw it. Nice!

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 04:16

    success! Got the last one in the store!

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 04:16

    success! Got the last one in the store!

    Woooo! I hope you fought someone off to get it!

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 04:16

    success! Got the last one in the store!

    What were you looking for?

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 04:17

    Right, this is stupidly late. I'm off for some nappage!

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 04:18

    Right, this is stupidly late. I'm off for some nappage!

    Or early, depending on how you see it. ;)

    Later, Alison.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 04:22

    pretty new laptop just in time to live comment spa :)

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 04:24

    pretty new laptop just in time to live comment spa :)

    OMG! What are the specs?

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 04:26

    its a vaio sr46, google it :) the guy was shocked to hear my hinge story.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 04:28

    its a vaio sr46, google it :) the guy was shocked to hear my hinge story.

    will duly google it - after lunch! :D

    enjoy your new lappie. ;)

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 04:34

    the $1000 i saved by not buying the Z48 i really wanted has gone into my spa fund :)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:34

    OMG edie jordan is such a toolbag

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:35

    'stratigists are absolute rubbis' in pre-r5555555555555555555555555555h

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:35

    NO KITTY! NO COMMENTS FOR YOU!

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:35

    That pre-quali mclaren strategy bit

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:36

    EJ saying that strategy can't ever determine who you come out of the pits in front of, etc

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:36

    wheres lukehs EJ muppet pic... *rummages around a bit in yesterdays thread

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:39

    at top of SPC dropi page

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 04:41

    EJ saying that strategy can't ever determine who you come out of the pits in front of, etc

    To be fair, he's right about that part. How can you predict who'll be involved in 1st corner incidents, who'll make a mess of their pitstops, who'll put in storming laps, who'll spin off and get out of position?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:41

    yes BUT

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:42

    if you run enough simulations, barring outliers like accidents and the like, it's not out of the realm of reason to say those stratigists have some hand in the way these races are won

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:43

    knowing race weights this year, for instance, give these guys even more accurate forcasts because they know the maximum everyone else can run, and the likely window and number of stops everyone else will run

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:44

    allowing for these guys to adjust their plans after q

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:45

    ej does a whole lot of slapping doesnt he?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:46

    Man the interview with Fisi before q says everything doesnt it?

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 04:46

    Having seen the number of times these computers tell drivers to go onto 3 stop strategies, I've lost almost all faith in them...

    I'm not saying sack them all! But I do think people are much better at thinking on their feet and adapting to changing situations than if they're too reliant on computers. Eddie doesn't mean what he said either. He just likes to be sensational.

    I really am going to bed.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:47

    see you soon ;D

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 04:47

    only a couple hours until the parade lap

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 06:18

    okay imma take a nap but I'll leave it with something that gave me a good chuckle.

    Upon achieving pole, Fisi is told 'Not bad mate'.

    I'll be back for the parade lap. Looking forward to the race.

    Amazing

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 06:32

    everytime I get a new computer it has twice the useless software installed of the one before it. I might just have to spend the rest of the day uninstalling things I WILL NEVER USE

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 07:38

    everytime I get a new computer it has twice the useless software installed of the one before it. I might just have to spend the rest of the day uninstalling things I WILL NEVER USE

    :D Don't worry, it'll be worth it.

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 08:18

    I wish the race was starting now or at least the parade lap

  • startledbunny30/08/2009 at 08:19

    Morning.

    everytime I get a new computer it has twice the useless software installed of the one before it. I might just have to spend the rest of the day uninstalling things I WILL NEVER USE

    they call it bloatware for a reason.

  • Neil Denham30/08/2009 at 08:29

    Morning!

    I am so excited, and I just can't hide it! I agree with Nathan, I wish the race was NOW!

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 08:32

    I am so excited, and I just can't hide it! I agree with Nathan, I wish the race was NOW!

    100 minutes to the Parade Lap. My gut tells me this race will be very exciting.

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 08:36

    I wish the race was starting now or at least the parade lap

    Hehe, you really don't. I just woke up, it would be mumbled nonsense.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 08:37

    Hehe, you really don't. I just woke up, it would be mumbled nonsense.

    That sounds pretty interesting, actually. :D

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 08:37

    good afternoon

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 08:37

    In good news new computer picks up wireless signals where old computer didn't. Goodbye, network issues!

  • startledbunny30/08/2009 at 08:39

    Hehe, you really don't. I just woke up, it would be mumbled nonsense.

    Sounds like my Travels in Sidepodland piece then :)

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 08:39

    In good news new computer picks up wireless signals where old computer didn't. Goodbye, network issues!

    w00t!

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 08:39

    watching GP2, looks like Hulkenberg out after first corner. and lap 2 SC after another incident.

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 08:42

    watching GP2, looks like Hulkenberg out after first corner. and lap 2 SC after another incident.

    Never though about trying to watch the gp2 race

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 08:43

    Never though about trying to watch the gp2 race

    it is action filled fun :-)

    http://www.justin.tv/bababarbar

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 08:43

    it is action filled fun :-)

    got it now on p2pstation

  • startledbunny30/08/2009 at 08:46

    watching GP2, looks like Hulkenberg out after first corner. and lap 2 SC after another incident.

    lot of smoke from the cars through eau rouge

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 08:47

    lot of smoke from the cars through eau rouge

    Looks like someone has an engine problem

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 08:47

    di Grassi jumping over Mortara :-)

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 08:47

    lot of smoke from the cars through eau rouge

    Looks like someone has an engine problem

    or was it brake smoke

  • startledbunny30/08/2009 at 08:49

    or was it brake smoke

    Martin Haven (commentator on British Eurosport) said it was the cars bottoming out

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 08:50

    Martin Haven (commentator on British Eurosport) said it was the cars bottoming out

    Sorry I saw more smoke before the crash but difficult to see where it was from on the streaming video

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:02

    Hehe, you really don't. I just woke up, it would be mumbled nonsense.

    hehe :)

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:03

    Morning everyone...

    Small child report - they wake up early!

    In other news I have watched Madagascar and Lilo and Stitch this morning.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:04

    In other news I have watched Madagascar and Lilo and Stitch this morning.

    needs more pixar

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 09:05

    In other news I have watched Madagascar and Lilo and Stitch this morning.

    Should be watching Roary the Racing Car on race day!

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 09:05

    In other news I have watched Madagascar and Lilo and Stitch this morning.

    I like to... MOVE IT!

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 09:06

    In other news I have watched Madagascar and Lilo and Stitch this morning.

    I have not seen either of these.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 09:07

    looking at all the versions of the 2010 calendar and wondering what has happened to the Korean GP. Wasn't that one planned for 2010 ?

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 09:08

    looking at all the versions of the 2010 calendar and wondering what has happened to the Korean GP. Wasn't that one planned for 2010 ?

    was wondering that too. quietly postponed to 2011 like india, perhaps?

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 09:09

    was wondering that too. quietly postponed to 2011 like india, perhaps?

    they even had the logo for 2010 ....

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21283.html

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 09:10

    they even had the logo for 2010 ....

    All the news stories about it seem old (2006)

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 09:12

    All the news stories about it seem old (2006)

    well the logo was revealed this year.

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 09:15

    well the logo was revealed this year.

    I meant about the Korean GP there are stories about it being confirmed around 2006 and then this one about the logo March 2009 but nothing in between.

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:16

    I have not seen either of these.

    Lilo and Stitch is ace... Madagascar is sort of okay.

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:16

    I like to... MOVE IT!

    Ah a man who knows.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 09:16

    James Allen on the Spa PA!!!

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:17

    needs more pixar

    Absolutely! Apparently Theo has seen all of the Pixar movies too many times.

    His biggest obsession however is Garfield the Movie. Which he call Catfield.

  • RG30/08/2009 at 09:18

    Hellllllllllllllllllo!!!!!! What a day yesterday, I don't think I have been this happy since, well, Canada 08.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:18

    His biggest obsession however is Garfield the Movie. Which he call Catfield.

    Alex, did you see my Spa fund now has $1000 thanks to buying a cheaper laptop? :D

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:19

    Alex, did you see my Spa fund now has $1000 thanks to buying a cheaper laptop? :D

    Awesome!

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:20

    I'm guessing the Spa Cat is out of the bag for Christine.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:20

    I'm guessing the Spa Cat is out of the bag for Christine.

    I saw a "What?" somewhere

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 09:21

    I'm guessing the Spa Cat is out of the bag for Christine.

    Hmm.

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:21

    Hmm.

    Ahh.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 09:23

    Ahh.

    Riiight.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:23

    oh oh oh I took a trip to the F1 store today to get a price on Brawn stuff for Paul.

    Videos as seen here http://qik.com/video/2719116

    and here http://qik.com/video/2719129

  • RG30/08/2009 at 09:24

    Just read in the ahem, Sunday Express they are hosting the British GP same day as the world cup final, who thought up that?

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 09:25

    Just read in the ahem, Sunday Express they are hosting the British GP same day as the world cup final, who thought up that?

    Expect the British GP date to change, then.

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 09:25

    oh oh oh I took a trip to the F1 store today to get a price on Brawn stuff for Paul.

    Videos as seen here http://qik.com/video/2719116

    and here http://qik.com/video/2719129

    Cool! You're teh best

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 09:26

    Thanks Amy!

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 09:27

    Amy that F1 shop is huge. Can only get Ferrari stuff here in Thailand.

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 09:27

    Hope they didn't think you were weird videoing in-store :D

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:28

    Thanks Amy!

    the polo as shown in the video was $99.95 and the Jenson t shirt above it was $49.95. The dearest thing I found was a Renault shirt for $290 :D There was probably Ferrari stuff for a bit more but I didn't even bother looking at evil red clothing.

    You can also buy the signed Schumacher helmet for $4000 if you wish :D

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:28

    Hope they didn't think you were weird videoing in-store :D

    ahaha thats why I wasn't saying anything, the woman was following me around :(

  • Alex Andronov30/08/2009 at 09:28

    I can't believe that we haven't had any game suggestions from Dan Brunel this week! ;)

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 09:29

    I can't believe that we haven't had any game suggestions from Dan Brunel this week! ;)

    Does he dare show his face? :)

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 09:29

    ahaha thats why I wasn't saying anything, the woman was following me around :(

    Hehe. Might skip the helmet, but the trshirts look good. Easier than positng over seas

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:30

    Hehe. Might skip the helmet, but the trshirts look good. Easier than positng over seas

    they also had a Brawn wallet for $29.95 but other than that there was nothing Brawny. They still have a 2007 womens McLaren jacket that I ponder every single time I go in there.

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 09:31

    they also had a Brawn wallet for $29.95 but other than that there was nothing Brawny. They still have a 2007 womens McLaren jacket that I ponder every single time I go in there.

    Did they have a web site?

  • Nathan30/08/2009 at 09:31

    Has anyone seen the Force India tshirts for sale yet. Ive got one but I think it's last years. There new stuff is all Reebok.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:32

    Did they have a web site?

    just the old out of date one http://f1specialevents.com/

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 09:32

    just the old out of date one http://f1specialevents.com/

    Cool, thats all I needed. I'll bookmark it this time!

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 09:34

    Cool, thats all I needed. I'll bookmark it this time!

    cool, I guess you can give them a ring and order anything over the phone, looks like they charge $10 for delivery Aus-wide :D

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 09:35

    cool, I guess you can give them a ring and order anything over the phone, looks like they charge $10 for delivery Aus-wide :D

    Awsome. You should be a tour guide

  • startledbunny30/08/2009 at 09:35

    Found the new motorhome for Force India's next race.

    Here

  • startledbunny30/08/2009 at 09:37

    Found the new motorhome for Force India's next race.

    Ignore link. Was to a metal shed in B&Q. wouldn't work

  • lou30/08/2009 at 15:13

    *sits in the daily thread*

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:13

    As advised by Lou, we're back in the daily. :D

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 15:13

    3.2.1 and you're back in the daily!

  • Sara30/08/2009 at 15:14

    Oooooo I'm back in the Daily.

  • lou30/08/2009 at 15:16

    i'll be spending the afternoon editing photos and sorting through everything from holiday. anyone else up to anything interesting?

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:17

    Can't wait for MotoGP! Pedrosa's been dominant all weekend, they say. But can he keep the Yamahas behind him later?

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 15:17

    i'll be spending the afternoon editing photos and sorting through everything from holiday. anyone else up to anything interesting?

    sleeping!

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:17

    ok then. conspiricy theory 101 continued

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 15:17

    i'll be spending the afternoon editing photos and sorting through everything from holiday. anyone else up to anything interesting?

    getting rid of my headache and am going to fix my bike which is uber broke

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:17

    i'll be spending the afternoon editing photos and sorting through everything from holiday. anyone else up to anything interesting?

    Not much - watching History, killing time before 125 kicks off.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:18

    sleeping!

    night Amy. :)

  • Sara30/08/2009 at 15:18

    Watching the cycling and taking note of the conspiricy stuff!

  • lou30/08/2009 at 15:18

    sleeping!

    sounds awesome. :)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:18

    Not much - watching History, killing time before 125 kicks off.

    err, ahhh...live stream somewhere?

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 15:19

    sounds awesome. :)

    I think you should spend some time hunting down Grosjean for quotes like this "I was keeping a good pace but then Button took me out at turn five and it was the end for me."

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:19

    err, ahhh...live stream somewhere?

    for motoGP? i wouldn't know - i don't run extra streams for MotoGP, I'm happy with the coverage we have. :D

    that said, jonny should be airing it somewhere...

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 15:19

    Watching the cycling and taking note of the conspiricy stuff!

    Conspiracies only work if you add to them

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 15:19

    i'll be spending the afternoon editing photos and sorting through everything from holiday. anyone else up to anything interesting?

    I'm just trying to decide what to do! There so much..

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:19

    I think you should spend some time hunting down Grosjean for quotes like this "I was keeping a good pace but then Button took me out at turn five and it was the end for me."

    ...what? button took him out? i thought it was the other way round?

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 15:20

    ...what? button took him out? i thought it was the other way round?

    it was. Grosjean is off in Grosjean-land

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:20

    Conspiracies only work if you add to them

    ahh. hmmm. flav installed a puncture mechanism in the tires so if p-k said no, he'd send him into the wall at the end of the straight.

    added.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:21

    ahh. hmmm. flav installed a puncture mechanism in the tires so if p-k said no, he'd send him into the wall at the end of the straight.

    funny cause I've often wondered about little things like that.

    whos to say bernie wasnt the one in charge of it?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 15:23

    OOPS

    I got the shuttle ISS docking time slighly wrong. It is at 1am in the morning not lunchtime so I can still watch it.

  • Sara30/08/2009 at 15:23

    Yeah but some of them are interesting.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:23

    whos to say bernie wasnt the one in charge of it?

    c'mon ppl, we're working on a conspiracy here. The one guy walking around the room with a tin-foil hat will not give much weight to the conversation

  • Nick30/08/2009 at 15:24

    Just read the Pk claims, how does everyone feel about him?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:24

    what is this game they're playing with a white ball and feet?

    I'm confused. where are the motors?

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:25

    I got the shuttle ISS docking time slighly wrong. It is at 1am in the morning not lunchtime so I can still watch it.

    Good for you. :D

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:25

    c'mon ppl, we're working on a conspiracy here. The one guy walking around the room with a tin-foil hat will not give much weight to the conversation

    :D

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:26

    what is this game they're playing with a white ball and feet?

    it has some weird name. foot-ball, they call it...

  • Nick30/08/2009 at 15:26

    what is this game they're playing with a white ball and feet?

    cricket, but not so much with their feet!

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:26

    GP casualties keep piling up huh? dont they wear helmets in the pitlane like in F1?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:27

    it has some weird name. foot-ball, they call it...

    Nono, that involves hands and a little brown ball. Pretty sure of it.

    heh. cricket. another one of those sports a lot of people watch, but only cause they forget to turn the tv off when they're napping

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:28

    heh. cricket. another one of those sports a lot of people watch, but only cause they forget to turn the tv off when they're napping

    like golf

  • Sara30/08/2009 at 15:28

    Cricket frightens me.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:28

    ohh good pic of button, hamilton and grosjean on speed.tv after the crash. none are looking at the others

  • Nick30/08/2009 at 15:29

    heh. cricket. another one of those sports a lot of people watch, but only cause they forget to turn the tv off when they're napping

    but I am at the ground :P

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:30

    soccor makes me tired just watching.

    cricket makes me feel young.

    golf makes me wonder if they've got adult diapers at the corner station.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:30

    ohh good pic of button, hamilton and grosjean on speed.tv after the crash. none are looking at the others

    hmmm. do button and hamilton have issues? it's not like they were directly involved, right? grosjean, though...

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:31

    hmmm. do button and hamilton have issues? it's not like they were directly involved, right? grosjean, though...

    I'd imagine getting wrecked at the 2nd corner and not knowing exactly who did would make some tempers simmer. Better not saying anything at all, amiright?

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:32

    I'd imagine getting wrecked at the 2nd corner and not knowing exactly who did would make some tempers simmer. Better not saying anything at all, amiright?

    good point.

  • Nick30/08/2009 at 15:33

    hmmm. do button and hamilton have issues? it's not like they were directly involved, right? grosjean, though...

    they were both pretty wound up, I woldnt read too much into it...

  • lou30/08/2009 at 15:33

    hmmm. do button and hamilton have issues? it's not like they were directly involved, right? grosjean, though...

    from what i gather Button and Hamilton have no real problems with each other, i think they were probably just frustrated, and looking for the easiest way to get back to their teams..

  • Sara30/08/2009 at 15:34

    And just being shunted off anyway would make you a little steamed so its either try to punch someone one or just look really annoyed for a while and say nothing.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:36

    And just being shunted off anyway would make you a little steamed so its either try to punch someone one or just look really annoyed for a while and say nothing.

    wonders what going to jail in belgium for a fist-fight on internation television would be like

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 15:38

    Jenson looks like a catalogue model here

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:39

    waffles. every day.

    even pureed one scraped from the front grills of passing cars

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:40

    We've had 6 winners so far this year. For reference, we had 7 last year and 8 in 2003.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:40

    Jenson looks like a catalogue model here

    and Lewis too. :D are you sure they didn't have an impromptu photoshoot? ;)

  • Sara30/08/2009 at 15:40

    Argh the cycling is too exciting!

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 15:41

    and Lewis too. :D are you sure they didn't have an impromptu photoshoot? ;)

    there is TONS of photos of the four of them just standing around, I think they must have :D

  • Sara30/08/2009 at 15:42

    They are so posing in a catalogue shoot kind of way. All thats missing is the beach shot in the background.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:43

    They are so posing in a catalogue shoot kind of way. All thats missing is the beach shot in the background.

    the background ain't so bad. nice and rugged.

  • Sara30/08/2009 at 15:43

    Now imagine Dr Mario in the shot too.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 15:44

    was I asleep for a year or did that Piquet Alonso Singapore story just came out today ?

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:45

    was I asleep for a year or did that Piquet Alonso Singapore story just came out today ?

    yup - during the race, actually.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 15:45

    yup - during the race, actually.

    of, so I was not asleep, I watched the race :-)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:47

    joes confirmed on his blog

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 15:47

    of, so I was not asleep, I watched the race :-)

    It came out on Brazilian TV

  • lou30/08/2009 at 15:47

    Jenson looks like a catalogue model here

    ehehehehe :D

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:47

    offical investigation even. all legal like

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 15:48

    so, then it is all done. Piquet will never ever set foot in F1 paddock, Renault will quit F1 is disgrace, Flavio will take over, Alo will leave Renault tomorrow and will replace BAD in Ferrari and Mallya will get to keep Fisi :-)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:49

    so, then it is all done. Piquet will never ever set foot in F1 paddock, Renault will quit F1 is disgrace, Flavio will take over, Alo will leave Renault tomorrow and will replace BAD in Ferrari and Mallya will get to keep Fisi :-)

    ahh. yeah, actually. damn that was quick. I was going to wear my foil hat a bit longer but jeez, you took all the fun out of it

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:53

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/wenny_wu/3868232511/

    I told you he smiles

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:53

    so, then it is all done. Piquet will never ever set foot in F1 paddock, Renault will quit F1 is disgrace, Flavio will take over, Alo will leave Renault tomorrow and will replace BAD in Ferrari and Mallya will get to keep Fisi :-)

    that's brilliant! :D

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 15:54

    I told you he smiles

    he does

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/08/2009 at 15:55

    #FR Here is my usual analysis of the Fantasy Racers Scores from today's grand prix.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:55

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/wenny_wu/3866352719/

    more of a smirk, really

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 15:56

    #FR Here is my usual analysis of the Fantasy Racers Scores from today's grand prix.

    That was quick.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 15:57

    more of a smirk, really

    you know, the kind that says "i'm rich, I drive the fastest ferraris ever made, I'm the bad guy chicks love to crush on, and you know you're secretly so jealous you'd brain me if ever we met in a darkened alley'

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/08/2009 at 15:58

    #FR Here is my usual analysis of the Fantasy Racers Scores from today's grand prix.

    That was quick.

    I started it during the forum ;)

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:58

    you know, the kind that says "i'm rich, I drive the fastest ferraris ever made, I'm the bad guy chicks love to crush on, and you know you're secretly so jealous you'd brain me if ever we met in a darkened alley'

    :D

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:58

    125cc is on - Indy!

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 15:59

    125cc is on - Indy!

    FWIW, the F1 grid markings are still there.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/08/2009 at 15:59

    Right - off for a run, see ya later!

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:00

    more of a smirk, really

    how about any of these

    1 2 3 4 5

    Clearly he can only smile when surrounded by his countrymen :D

    Hi, my name is Amy and I keep a folder of Finn pictures

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 16:00

    Hi, my name is Amy and I keep a folder of Finn pictures

    :D

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:01

    :D

    oh and because I can't leave out OriginalFinn

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 16:02

    oh and because I can't leave out OriginalFinn

    those were the days...

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 16:03

    Hi, my name is Amy and I keep a folder of Finn pictures

    Hehehe! Amazing :)

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:03

    ehehe i like this photo

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:03

    might have to motogp up on jonny, theyre looking into it

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:03

    those were the days...

    just like one big happy family

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 16:04

    just like one big happy family

    Ron in a tee-shirt! :O

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:05

    what kind of dirty finnish joke do you think they were sharing?

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 16:05

    just like one big happy family

    Playboy Kimi?

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:05

    Also... i swear f1 photographers have the best job in the world...

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:06

    what kind of dirty finnish joke do you think they were sharing?

    I think they were discussing ways to hide from me next time they're in town

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:07

    Also... i swear f1 photographers have the best job in the world...

    thats a given.

    blurry shots of cars moving too fast for me to follow? check

    half naked beauties running around posing? check

    free food and travel? check.

    Yeah, I'd say so

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:07

    Clearly he can only smile when surrounded by his countrymen

    Piquet is Finnish??

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:08

    oh and because I can't leave out OriginalFinn

    There were a few Finns before him

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:08

    There were a few Finns before him

    not ones I care about :D

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:09

    just like one big happy family

    Kimi looks like he has just walked off the set of Miami Vice

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:09

    also I am positive that in http://twitpic.com/ftuwi it is Catherine next to him so why have I not seen photos of her since Brazil last year. Come on photographers, stalk the girlfriends more.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:09

    Kimi looks like he has just walked off the set of Miami Vice

    nothing says pimpin' like a white suit

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:09

    http://www.jamd.com/image/in-search/formula+1/#112g90184554

    jaime in spanish "YOU a$$! Why you try to stay on the road in front of me!?"

    Lewis "Listen here, sonny..."

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:10

    also I am positive that in http://twitpic.com/ftuwi it is Catherine next to him so why have I not seen photos of her since Brazil last year. Come on photographers, stalk the girlfriends more.

    hehe i'd so want to be given a chance at being an f1 photographer :)

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:11

    also I am positive that in http://twitpic.com/ftuwi it is Catherine next to him so why have I not seen photos of her since Brazil last year. Come on photographers, stalk the girlfriends more.

    There were photos of her this season. You posted them

  • Scott Woodwiss30/08/2009 at 16:11

    nothing says pimpin' like a white suit

    And a massive gold chain ;)

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:11

    hehe i'd so want to be given a chance at being an f1 photographer :)

    you're good enough!

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:11

    http://www.jamd.com/image/in-search/formula+1/#114g90184548

    "so what do you reckon, Jenson, one bar of soap in the sock or two when we beat that little spanish turd tonight?"

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:12

    There were photos of her this season. You posted them

    oh thats right. There was one race, ages ago! Last year she popped up every time. Although there used to be 1000 of Anando's wife every race too and shes pretty rare now these days too.

  • Journeyer30/08/2009 at 16:13

    http://www.jamd.com/image/in-search/formula+1/#114g90184548

    more catalogue shots. heh. :D

    anyway, brb for the debrief. ;)

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 16:13

    gravit8ed - can you tone it down a little bit please? Have already had to edit some of your comments for language.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:13

    oh thats right. There was one race, ages ago! Last year she popped up every time. Although there used to be 1000 of Anando's wife every race too and shes pretty rare now these days too.

    There seemed to be a few seasons where the wives got as much coverage as th drivers. Connie Montoya was never off TV. ITV used to interview her regularly

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:14

    you're good enough!

    hehe if i ever make it into the paddock i'll help your f1 wife + girlfriend stalking needs ;)

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 16:14

    How awkward for them all milling around there waiting to be rescued!

    One of the shots looks like Jenson's about to punch Lewis. I'm pretty sure that wasn't what was going on, but it all looked so tense....

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:15

    There seemed to be a few seasons where the wives got as much coverage as th drivers. Connie Montoya was never off TV. ITV used to interview her regularly

    now the only person they look at is THAT woman...

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 16:15

    Button - "Grosjean out-braked himself and hit my back wheel. I don't think he was even trying to overtake me."

    Grosjean - "I made a very good start, moving up to thirteenth place and I was keeping a good pace but then Button took me out at turn five and it was the end for me,"

    Einstein - "everything is relative" :-)

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 16:15

    Einstein - "everything is relative" :-)

    Hehehe.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:15

    now the only person they look at is THAT woman...

    there is always plenty of photos of Jessica though :D

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:15

    sorry mrs c.

    *washes mouth out with soap

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:16

    Einstein - "everything is relative" :-)

    hehehe

    Grosjean - "I made a very good start, moving up to thirteenth place and I was keeping a good pace but then Button took me out at turn five and it was the end for me,"

    i see Grosjean has learnt from Vettel's apologies in Australia this year...

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 16:16

    official - FIA launching the probe into Singapore GP - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78195

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:16

    There seemed to be a few seasons where the wives got as much coverage as th drivers. Connie Montoya was never off TV. ITV used to interview her regularly

    My brother says 'why do you care' but we are girls, it's what we do. We want to know what happens off track as well as on it. (well, some of us)

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 16:16

    Thank you for the FR stats, Steven. My hero again :)

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:16

    there is always plenty of photos of Jessica though :D

    oh yeah :) but i like her :D plus she likes photography... lol

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:17

    One of the shots looks like Jenson's about to punch Lewis. I'm pretty sure that wasn't what was going on, but it all looked so tense....

    Drivers are alway tense when their race ends so quickly. Especially when there is no way to get back to the pits and they just have to hang about there.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 16:17

    Oops... my doohickey loaded up the race thread accidentally. My bad.

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 16:17

    official - FIA launching the probe into Singapore GP - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78195

    Only 12 months too late...

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:18

    http://tinyurl.com/kscp2k - sad looking Brawn people :(

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:18

    now the only person they look at is THAT woman...

    Jenson's girlfriend and Massa's wife get some coverage. I think the current generation of drivers are more accessible to the media so they have stopped interviewing wives and fathers.

    Schumacher's wife used to be shown on TV every five minutes during a race.

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 16:19

    Also props to Lou for getting everyone back in the daily :)

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:19

    Einstein - "everything is relative" :-)

    Almost every racing driver in the world - It was the other guy's fault

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:20

    Also props to Lou for getting everyone back in the daily :)

    :)

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 16:20

    Almost every racing driver in the world - It was the other guy's fault

    they are all correct :-)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:20

    Almost every racing driver in the world - It was the other guy's fault

    when is it not? honestly.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:20

    Thank you for the FR stats, Steven. My hero again :)

    Is that because your second team is beating Mr C's top team. Although I am sure you wouldn't mention that on the show

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 16:21

    Almost every racing driver in the world - It was the other guy's fault

    Why would you apologise though? You just get a penalty from the stewards....

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:21

    Also props to Lou for getting everyone back in the daily :)

    What does props mean. I see lots of people using it and I have no idea where it comes from

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 16:21

    when is it not? honestly.

    Vettel in australia admitted the crash with Kubica was his fault. He got a 10 place grid penalty for it. Wonder why no-one else admits to an accident?

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 16:22

    Is that because your second team is beating Mr C's top team. Although I am sure you wouldn't mention that on the show

    I wouldn't want to laugh and point at Mr C, would I? That would just be mean.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:22

    they are all correct :-)

    :D

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:23

    Why would you apologise though? You just get a penalty from the stewards....

    Vettel apologised because he has good manners and the stewards are too ignorant to read what actually happened from the video

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 16:23

    Vettel in australia admitted the crash with Kubica was his fault. He got a 10 place grid penalty for it. Wonder why no-one else admits to an accident?

    It wasn't really 100% his fault either. I don't think that's my bias talking. It was just that he did the nice thing, apologised to Kubica and to his team and was given a penalty for his troubles.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:24

    I wouldn't want to laugh and point at Mr C, would I? That would just be mean.

    I am sure he wouldn't sulk and we would never mention it again.

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 16:24

    What does props mean. I see lots of people using it and I have no idea where it comes from

    I actually didn't know, which makes me feel stupid for saying something when I didn't know what it was...

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=props

  • Scott Woodwiss30/08/2009 at 16:25

    So tell me, what have I missed in the comments this past week? :P

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:25

    It wasn't really 100% his fault either. I don't think that's my bias talking. It was just that he did the nice thing, apologised to Kubica and to his team and was given a penalty for his troubles.

    It was a racing incident. The stewards should just have let it go. Two young guys being aggressive and a little bit optimistic

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:25

    It wasn't really 100% his fault either. I don't think that's my bias talking. It was just that he did the nice thing, apologised to Kubica and to his team and was given a penalty for his troubles.

    wouldnt want to bring the sport into disreputed now would they? They got a reputation to uphold

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 16:25

    When Rubens cut the corner today, he should've taken the line like this

    :P

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:26

    I actually didn't know, which makes me feel stupid for saying something when I didn't know what it was...

    I assumed I was the only one who didn't know. I should have checked the urban dictionary

  • lou30/08/2009 at 16:26

    Do you think Lewis is wishing he had a bit more hair? or is just trying to copy Jenson?

    He smiled! he wasn't that angry then....

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:26

    fingers mashing buttons again. should probably get out a bit today, maybe go to the beach or something...

    Then again, true blood is on tonight. if not for the race this weekend, thats all I'd have been thinking about this week

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 16:27

    When Rubens cut the corner today, he should've taken the line like this

    Link fail.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hbMkJImZs

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 16:27

    Link fail.

    I thought it was some kind of practical joke to make me keep clicking at it and have nothing happen :P

  • me30/08/2009 at 16:29

    how long has DC been writing for autosport?

    http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2353

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:29

    you guys do get true blood over that way dont you?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:30

    how long has DC been writing for autosport?

    He does a column in every issue that is published before a race. He started at the beginning ofthe season

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:30

    you guys do get true blood over that way dont you?

    Never heard of it

  • me30/08/2009 at 16:30

    He does a column in every issue that is published before a race. He started at the beginning ofthe season

    so it's from this weeks paper mag, but it's online already?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:31

    stephen moyer plays a vampire that gets together with a telepath played by anna paquin. very hot stuff. good show on HBO

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:32

    Never heard of it

    I am avoiding it on purpose because I find vampire shows intolerably boring.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:32

    so it's from this weeks paper mag, but it's online already?

    He does it the week before the race so it should be from Thursday's. Is it the column which ends with him saying he knows Schumacher's neck injury is real because he put him in a headlock last Saturday night?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:33

    how long has DC been writing for autosport?

    I'd like to read eddie jordan, just for laughs. does he publish anything or does writing require too much initial thought?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:33

    stephen moyer plays a vampire that gets together with a telepath played by anna paquin. very hot stuff. good show on HBO

    I have never been a vampire fan. I still think of Anna Paquin as the little girl in The Piano

  • me30/08/2009 at 16:33

    He does it the week before the race so it should be from Thursday's. Is it the column which ends with him saying he knows Schumacher's neck injury is real because he put him in a headlock last Saturday night?

    "I know Michael helped Luca as best as he could, but I discovered that Michael's neck injury is genuine when I put him in a headlock on Saturday night – he seemed very uncomfortable! I was just mucking around, but it seems like it's a serious one and only nature will decide when he's fit enough to race again."

    w00t! autosport FTW!

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:34

    I'd like to read eddie jordan, just for laughs. does he publish anything or does writing require too much initial thought?

    I haven't seen him write a column anywhere. His book is worth a read.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 16:34

    w00t! autosport FTW!

    See, he's even helping by wrestling schumacher when knowing about the neck. DC is secretly a genius.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:35

    w00t! autosport FTW!

    I mentioned that on Thursday and you commented on it.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:35

    I am avoiding it on purpose because I find vampire shows intolerably boring.

    yeah there is a glut of bad vamp stuff out there (twilight, anyone?) but this is very well written and produced.

    Plus, ahh, anna paquin. n****. very. not for the kids so much.

    pulling best ratings for hbo since that mobster show everyone thought was so great.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:35

    I have never been a vampire fan. I still think of Anna Paquin as the little girl in The Piano

    plus that show has a guy from Home and Away in it, so I cannot take him seriously

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:35

    See, he's even helping by wrestling schumacher when knowing about the neck. DC is secretly a genius.

    DC and Schumacher as wrestlers. If only we knew a photoshop genius

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 16:36

    I haven't seen him write a column anywhere. His book is worth a read.

    he used to do a column for F1 Racing until they decided Murray Walker was a better choice

  • me30/08/2009 at 16:36

    a quote from tony dodgins following singapore:

    "Nobody at Fuji wanted to say so on the record, but many teams thought that Renault had carefully plotted Alonso's Singapore win and were very suspicious that Nelson Piquet had crashed at precisely the right moment to trigger the safety car which swung the race towards Alonso."

    "On the lap after Fernando's stop, Piquet received a radio instruction, "Push, Nelson!" At the time he was still stuck down in 16th position behind Barrichello's Honda, where he'd been from the start, so the instruction itself didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. Coded instruction, it has been suggested."

    "One team strategist I spoke to in Japan put it like this: "Looking at it from a purely statistical point of view, on a track like Singapore, stopping on lap 12 is not aggressive, it's stupid. It's something which cannot work. Your grandmother wouldn't do it.""

    just an fyi, for you all. will probably look at this in the show. all thoughts now or then are welcome.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:37

    he used to do a column for F1 Racing until they decided Murray Walker was a better choice

    rightly so. thumbed through the book a while back, should probably pick it up again

  • me30/08/2009 at 16:37

    Plus, ahh, anna paquin. n****. very. not for the kids so much.

    gravit8ed, that is NOT appropriate conversation for this site.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:38

    not for the kids so much.

    hence that disclaimer. no more said.

  • me30/08/2009 at 16:39

    hence that disclaimer. no more said.

    i don't care. we're not interested in such talk. thanks.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:40

    ohhh kay then. really not trying to get on the bad side here...

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:41

    just an fyi, for you all. will probably look at this in the show. all thoughts now or then are welcome.

    Interesting. Like a lot of people at the time I suggested as a joke that it was planned but it never occurred to me that it was. It would be interesting to see what kind of penalty Max could dream up for this as he doesn't seem to like punishing Renault.

    Carlos Ghosn would dump the team immediately if this turns out to have any truth in it just to show that there is no connection to Renault and of course Piquet senior wants to buy a team allegedly.

  • me30/08/2009 at 16:42

    Carlos Ghosn would dump the team immediately if this turns out to have any truth in it just to show that there is no connection to Renault and of course Piquet senior wants to buy a team allegedly.

    ah-ha. hadn't thought about that. he doesn't actually have the money though does he?

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 16:44

    Carlos Ghosn would dump the team immediately if this turns out to have any truth in it just to show that there is no connection to Renault and of course Piquet senior wants to buy a team allegedly.

    Imagine Piquet jr coming back to Enstone telling Briatore "You are fired ! " :-)

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:45

    ah-ha. hadn't thought about that. he doesn't actually have the money though does he?

    He wouldn't need much to buy it and the story always was that Piquet junior had the Renault drive because Carlos Slim Helu insisted and he is one of the three richest men in the world.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 16:46

    DC and Schumacher as wrestlers. If only we knew a photoshop genius

    whoops...

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/wwf1-jpg

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 16:47

    whoops...

    MY EYES!

  • me30/08/2009 at 16:47
  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:48

    MY EYES!

    all kinds of wrong in that image.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 16:48

    whoops...

    Genius

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:49

    dreamed LH last night, now I fear for sleep tonight

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:51

    Ah-hah! I knew BMW were up to something when they withdrew. They've been throwing cash at this beastie: http://jalopnik.com/5348573/bmws-new-turbodiesel-tron-hybrid

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 16:57

    I think Fisi would have won if it hadn't been for that safety car/his poor restart. I just don't think he remembered the best thing to do. He didn't seem to back anyone up at all.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 16:58

    Okay so the problem with the p-k theory is one I think Amy brought up last night while talking about strategy and how all those men in front of monitors are for the most part useless;

    That is, how could they anticipate being in a position where Alonso's early stop wouldnt be interrupted by the safety car beforehand, or some other incident that would have made p=k come in even earlier for a new nose or a flat, etc?

    On the face of it one would think of all the various things that could go wrong and even Flav wouldnt be willing to risk it like that.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:01

    I think Fisi would have won if it hadn't been for that safety car/his poor restart. I just don't think he remembered the best thing to do. He didn't seem to back anyone up at all.

    he did an awfully slow parade lap to the grid though. But I think you're mostly right, if not for the SC coming out kimi would have had to use the KERS very well to get up to Fisi at all, considering fisi's pace throughout the race.

    I think we'll be talking about this one for a good while, less if FI can back it up with a good show at Monza.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:01

    I just realized the MotoGP is on tonight, there goes my sleep ...

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:04

    he did an awfully slow parade lap to the grid though

    That's the right thing to do as well though. Save you being held too long.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:06

    That is, how could they anticipate being in a position where Alonso's early stop wouldnt be interrupted by the safety car beforehand, or some other incident that would have made p=k come in even earlier for a new nose or a flat, etc?

    Lots of teams in the past when they were not competitive have taken risks that resulted in winning races that could have gone horribly wrong. Listen to Jordan talk about the times his team started on different tyres to anyone else and it worked. Many times team choose wets instead of inters etc and end up looking stupid but just occasionally they ge an unexpected win or podium.

    If this really was planned it may have been planned a few times and only executed once when the conditions were right.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:08

    That's the right thing to do as well though. Save you being held too long.

    keeps everyone else from getting heat into the tires. I am still fascinated by how much heat those things actually take to stay effective. Even cruising around the circuit at speeds that would destroy my car arent enough to keep them as hot as those tire blankets.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:08

    he did an awfully slow parade lap to the grid though

    He had less fuel than anyone so it was in his interest to use as littleas possible on the parade lap

  • James30/08/2009 at 17:08

    Lots of teams in the past when they were not competitive have taken risks that resulted in winning races that could have gone horribly wrong. Listen to Jordan talk about the times his team started on different tyres to anyone else and it worked. Many times team choose wets instead of inters etc and end up looking stupid but just occasionally they ge an unexpected win or podium.

    Thats just a total gamble though based on the weather might do, the situation with Renault is a little different.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:10

    If this really was planned it may have been planned a few times and only executed once when the conditions were right.

    Of course I'm not saying it's impossible, even unlikey, which adds a strange sense of sure-ness to these claims from pk. Also, backs him up when he says he was basically used as a pick and tester for FA, because if they had this strategy on file what else were they waiting to try?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:11

    Thats just a total gamble though based on the weather might do, the situation with Renault is a little different.

    I agree but it would be interesting to see how often Alonso went on really low fuel that season. This weekend the BBC showed how many strategic scenarios McLaren run to findthe best way to attack the race. Maybe the best option for Renault was to go light and pray for a safety car with the back up plan of creating a safety car if none happmed naturally.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:11

    ...fishing my foil hat out of the trash again

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:12

    Thats just a total gamble though based on the weather might do, the situation with Renault is a little different.

    Yeah, in that gambling with your tyre choice is legitimate strategy choice. Using Piquet as a missile, perhaps not. Although tbh, he's probably more use to them punting people off and causing safety cars than he is doing anything else :D

    Presumably though yes, they'd only give the signal if the conditions were right. Otherwise it isn't worth the risk.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 17:12

    I love it when a good conspiracy gets going :D

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:12

    I agree but it would be interesting to see how often Alonso went on really low fuel that season. This weekend the BBC showed how many strategic scenarios McLaren run to findthe best way to attack the race. Maybe the best option for Renault was to go light and pray for a safety car with the back up plan of creating a safety car if none happmed naturally.

    you may be onto something there.

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:13

    I love it when a good conspiracy gets going :D

    this is a good one. however, if you had one shot to nail flavio, you'd make sure you picked a good one. right?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:14

    this is a good one. however, if you had one shot to nail flavio, you'd make sure you picked a good one. right?

    ...which this isn't. Simply to many what ifs and weirdness, way to far down the line to consider. Last year, maybe, but in the end what did they achieve with this win?

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:15

    ...which this isn't. Simply to many what ifs and weirdness, way to far down the line to consider. Last year, maybe, but in the end what did they achieve with this win?

    ghosn requires one win per year to justify renault's involvement in f1.

    i'd say it saved the team.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:15

    I love it when a good conspiracy gets going :D

    As I said earlier the great thing about F1 is there are so many possible conspiracy theories for any situation.

    I remember this conspiracy theory that Ferrari had a special deal with the FIA and were allowed a say in writing the regs. Of course that turned out to be true.

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:15

    ...which this isn't. Simply to many what ifs and weirdness, way to far down the line to consider. Last year, maybe, but in the end what did they achieve with this win?

    You don't know what he's got as evidence. Aside from his testimony, he could have anything. If this can go any way toward being proved, Flav'll be long out the door.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 17:15

    this is a good one. however, if you had one shot to nail flavio, you'd make sure you picked a good one. right?

    Absolutely!! surely the fact the FIA are actually bothering with it with an independent investigation means that there's more to it than meets the eye, even if a silly conspiracy does get picked up in the press they get thrown asides because of how ludicrous they tend to be. I wanna know what happens next now!

    Tis like a crime thriller, perhaps Flav really is the executioner in this tale of many chapters...

  • James30/08/2009 at 17:15

    Renault needed to win to keep Alonso but their car improved and they did win in Japan on merit but lets face it Alonso had no where else to go.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:16

    Also, we should recall a generally calm political front since the teams signed the new agreement, and that keeps newspeople bored and out of work. Lawyers, too.

    Anyone know what the annual legal budget for these teams is on average?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:17

    ...which this isn't. Simply to many what ifs and weirdness, way to far down the line to consider. Last year, maybe, but in the end what did they achieve with this win?

    Carlos Ghosn is alwways threatening to pull Renault out of F1. A race win and the publicity that goes with it may have been enough to convince him to dign off their next budget.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:17

    ghosn requires one win per year to justify renault's involvement in f1.

    i'd say it saved the team.

    What he said

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:17

    i'd say it saved the team.

    and it may bury it a year later ...

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:18

    i'd say it saved the team.

    ahhh it gets deeper

    You don't know what he's got as evidence. Aside from his testimony, he could have anything. If this can go any way toward being proved, Flav'll be long out the door.

    I dont but it would be hard to imagine they've got anything solid. As much of an eccentric as he is, he's not stupid.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:18

    You don't know what he's got as evidence. Aside from his testimony, he could have anything. If this can go any way toward being proved, Flav'll be long out the door.

    You also have to remember Piquet senior has the dirt on Bernie.

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:18

    and it may bury it a year later ...

    yup. although their current performance may have done that anyways.

  • James30/08/2009 at 17:18

    i'd say it saved the team.

    The won on merit in Japan and finished second in Brazil. If we had the same regs as last year Renault would have mounted a title challange.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:18

    Also, we should recall a generally calm political front since the teams signed the new agreement,

    and that lasted all the long 2 weeks ...

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:18

    and it may bury it a year later ...

    What better way is there to get back at your 'executioner' than to have him disgraced and his team withdraw.....

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:19

    I think I need another layer of tin foil.

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:19

    I dont but it would be hard to imagine they've got anything solid. As much of an eccentric as he is, he's not stupid.

    Except that he's involved blabbermouth Piquet in his ultra-secret plot then sacked him? That's pretty stupid!

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:20

    and it may bury it a year later ...

    It will simply make Renault pull out. There are all sorts of people looking for entries just now. The team won't disappear but the name above the door may change.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:20

    What better way is there to get back at your 'executioner' than to have him disgraced and his team withdraw.....

    which brings up the obvious revenge item, and why if pk was asked to do this he didnt come forward much sooner when it became clear he wasnt getting fair treatment (or felt he wasnt) at Renualt

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:21

    It will simply make Renault pull out. There are all sorts of people looking for entries just now. The team won't disappear but the name above the door may change.

    I doubt Flav will be able to get through this. If there's any evidence surely he'll be barred from any involvement with the sport. That's what the Piquets are after I'm sure.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:21

    What better way is there to get back at your 'executioner' than to have him disgraced and his team withdraw.....

    well if PIQ is behind this than he may have shut himself out of F1 for good unless his dad buys him a team ... who would hire him ?

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 17:21

    I liked Bernie's answer in F1R about Flav when asked if they were good friends. He talks how how strong his friendship with Di Montezemelo is, but ends with mentions "Is Flavio a good friend? Well he says he is...."

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:22

    Except that he's involved blabbermouth Piquet in his ultra-secret plot then sacked him? That's pretty stupid!

    very stupid. at least he wasn't tweeting back then.

  • James30/08/2009 at 17:22

    I doubt Flav will be able to get through this. If there's any evidence surely he'll be barred from any involvement with the sport. That's what the Piquets are after I'm sure.

    Provided its even true, not that I'm defending Flav we just don't know enough yet.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:22

    Except that he's involved blabbermouth Piquet in his ultra-secret plot then sacked him? That's pretty stupid!

    its all falling apart under so many obvious stuff...that it comes back together again. Maybe he want us to think he's not dumb enough to involve pk in something so brazen, gambling that everyone will write this off as a publicity stunt on the behalf of the piquet family, while actually using it for his own planning. Full circle.

  • Amy30/08/2009 at 17:22

    oh my I'd best go to sleep. Shall catch the replay tomorrow!

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:22

    well if PIQ is behind this than he may have shut himself out of F1 for good unless his dad buys him a team ... who would hire him ?

    good question. i guess any team who does things by the book will be find with it.

    are there any?

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:23

    oh my I'd best go to sleep. Shall catch the replay tomorrow!

    g'night amy.

  • lou30/08/2009 at 17:23

    oh my I'd best go to sleep. Shall catch the replay tomorrow!

    night Amy :)

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:23

    which brings up the obvious revenge item, and why if pk was asked to do this he didnt come forward much sooner when it became clear he wasnt getting fair treatment (or felt he wasnt) at Renualt

    "sooner" he was still F1 driver hoping to keep his seat, now he has no seat

  • James30/08/2009 at 17:23

    good question. i guess any team who does things by the book will be find with it.

    If there is a seat going at McLaren I'd say there.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:24

    If there is a seat going at McLaren I'd say there.

    why would McLaren want Piquet ?

  • James30/08/2009 at 17:25

    why would McLaren want Piquet ?

    He'll do what they want i.e. backup Hamilton. Mind you I prefer their current driver partnership.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:25

    "sooner" he was still F1 driver hoping to keep his seat, now he has no seat

    IIR, he wasn't very happy for most of the season. He managed to keep his mouth mostly shut but something like this would surely be burning a big h ole in his desire to stick around. Why would he wait to get canned? And wouldn't Flav be very hesitant to dump him so unceremoniously?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:26

    Night Amy.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 17:27

    oh my I'd best go to sleep. Shall catch the replay tomorrow!

    Night Amy

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:27

    This could do some real damage to everyone involved, and F1 in general. The spy-gate and LH's lying earlier this season would be little bumps compared to the accusations that one of the top teams was actively risking driver safety for results.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:28

    night amy.

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:28

    This could do some real damage to everyone involved, and F1 in general. The spy-gate and LH's lying earlier this season would be little bumps compared to the accusations that one of the top teams was actively risking driver safety for results.

    interesting. hadn't thought about that.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:28

    why would McLaren want Piquet ?

    Ron didn't even try to sign his father so they are not going to sign junior.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 17:29

    Ron didn't even try to sign his father so they are not going to sign junior.

    I'm not sure it works like that

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:29

    This could do some real damage to everyone involved, and F1 in general. The spy-gate and LH's lying earlier this season would be little bumps compared to the accusations that one of the top teams was actively risking driver safety for results.

    the irony may be that staged crash for PIQ may have been safer for him then letting him race and spin as usual ....

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 17:30

    This could do some real damage to everyone involved, and F1 in general. The spy-gate and LH's lying earlier this season would be little bumps compared to the accusations that one of the top teams was actively risking driver safety for results.

    very true, that's a horrible thought. if the Piquets do have conclusive evidence then it'll have huge aftershocks. I really hope it is all a silly conspiracy, but part of me also thinks 'Well.... it makes a little too much sense...'

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:30

    This could do some real damage to everyone involved, and F1 in general. The spy-gate and LH's lying earlier this season would be little bumps compared to the accusations that one of the top teams was actively risking driver safety for results.

    In the real world that is true but in Maxworld?

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:30

    interesting. hadn't thought about that.

    Bernie would...errr *censored bricks if this turned out to be true. I cannot imagine the kind of fire that would reign down from on high

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 17:30

    the irony may be that staged crash for PIQ may have been safer for him then letting him race and spin as usual ....

    I fear we may see the start of a new twitter trend...

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:30

    I'm not sure it works like that

    He's too hot headed for McLaren. They've been burned by Alonso. They need the cool headed Finns to functions properly....

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:31

    In the real world that is true but in Maxworld?

    may be interesting to watch how FIA handles this. the action FIA takes here may result in another manufacturer and engine supplier pulling out ...

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:31
  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 17:32

    He's too hot headed for McLaren. They've been burned by Alonso. They need the cool headed Finns to functions properly....

    I do agree that he wouldn't work at McLaren, i was just pointing out that just because Sn wouldn't race dosent mean Jr wouldnt

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:32

    In the real world that is true but in Maxworld?

    Flavio must take a lot of comfort from Max. If Max can survive his scandal, surely it's possible to keep your job through any debacle.

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:32

    may be interesting to watch how FIA handles this. the action FIA takes here may result in another manufacturer and engine supplier pulling out ...

    very much so. and if toyota follow, there's not a lot of engines to go around.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:33

    He's too hot headed for McLaren. They've been burned by Alonso. They need the cool headed Finns to functions properly....

    This is true as well. LH has been hand-fed the MC-MC enignma handbook for years now, they'd not suffer that kind of openess. I was honestly surprised when the signed Alonso in the first place

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:34

    Bernie would...errr *censored bricks if this turned out to be true. I cannot imagine the kind of fire that would reign down from on high

    Bernie would be quite happy because his only interest is that F1 gets lots of TV coverage regardless how it is arrived at

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:34

    very much so. and if toyota follow, there's not a lot of engines to go around.

    and there comes FIA saying - "Told ya so, here is the good old Cossie ..."

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:35

    may be interesting to watch how FIA handles this. the action FIA takes here may result in another manufacturer and engine supplier pulling out ...

    Max sees this as a sign that his work in the F1 world isn't complete. He has to stand again to 'restore some integrity to the sport'?

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:35

    and there comes FIA saying - "Told ya so, here is the good old Cossie ..."

    ahhh, bugger.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:35

    He's too hot headed for McLaren. They've been burned by Alonso. They need the cool headed Finns to functions properly....

    Are you still trying to get NZ info from Amy?

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 17:35

    This is true as well. LH has been hand-fed the MC-MC enignma handbook for years now, they'd not suffer that kind of openess. I was honestly surprised when the signed Alonso in the first place

    I think everyone assumed that LH would just be a great number 2 that pushed Nando but didnt beat him. A bit like Ross vs Lorenzo in the early days.

    Turns out they were wrong and that LH probably was ready for a race drive ;)

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:36

    Are you still trying to get NZ info from Amy?

    Hahaha I bought a guide book :D

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 17:36

    and there comes FIA saying - "Told ya so, here is the good old Cossie ..."

    and whats that sound? it's the European Commission looking into Competition equality ;)

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:37

    off topic a bit - weird watching these bikes lapping the Indy track the other way round the F1 cars used to :-)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:37

    Bernie would be quite happy because his only interest is that F1 gets lots of TV coverage regardless how it is arrived at

    yeeeaaa but he's got sponsors and insurers and all the legal mumbo-jumbo of thousand page contracts to think about (sure he pays others to do that but you get the idea).

    I wouldnt think any track or facility would want to risk having a dead world-wide sports star being killed on live television. I'm sure we can all think about what happened the last time this occurred.

    And, WWJD? (what would jackie do?)

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:37

    Flavio must take a lot of comfort from Max. If Max can survive his scandal, surely it's possible to keep your job through any debacle.

    Max is protected by the gutless blazers ofthe FIA. Carlos Ghosn is a whole different kettle of fish

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:38

    Max sees this as a sign that his work in the F1 world isn't complete. He has to stand again to 'restore some integrity to the sport'?

    Good call.

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:38

    and whats that sound? it's the European Commission looking into Competition equality ;)

    ahh, 2010 is already looking messy.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:39

    and whats that sound? it's the European Commission looking into Competition equality

    well, European commission may not like the current limkt on how many teams a manufacturer is allowed to supply. but not much they can do if there are no suppliers around ...

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:39

    Hahaha I bought a guide book :D

    If Gavin is around you should have a word with him because he is a Kiwi even if he lives in Denmark.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:39

    ahh, 2010 is already looking messy.

    wouldnt be F1 if it wasnt, now would it?

    One of the reasons I hate NASCAR is because there simply isnt any real controversy. even with 30-odd teams showing up, there is hardly ever even a fist fight in the pits anymore. Its gotten boring, really

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 17:40

    And, WWJD? (what would jackie do?)

    If only he had got Max's job when Max got it. Imagine what F1 would be like today

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 17:40

    well, European commission may not like the current limkt on how many teams a manufacturer is allowed to supply. but not much they can do if there are no suppliers around ...

    but i think they'd not like the fact the FIA demanded new teams bow down to cosworth, even more

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 17:41

    ahh, 2010 is already looking messy.

    oh and dont forget a new president too!

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:41

    so, Fisi gets Force India on podium, gets his 30 minutes of fame, and then ALO PIQ and FLAV take over the show ...

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:42

    Its gotten boring, really

    I should point out I'm not a fan of violence in racing but they've tied these guys up so tightly they can hardly breath. Any post-race interview is ten minutes of sponsers thank-yous and ten seconds enything else.

    Also, in Iowa, the dirt trackers and sprinters have PASSION that they bring with them on and off the track. Makes for good rivalries.

  • me30/08/2009 at 17:43

    so, Fisi gets Force India on podium, gets his 30 minutes of fame, and then ALO PIQ and FLAV take over the show ...

    hehe. go fisi!

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:44

    so, Fisi gets Force India on podium, gets his 30 minutes of fame, and then ALO PIQ and FLAV take over the show ...

    back to the theories...maybe it's just a way to drum up more free advert from the twisted depths of Flavios strange little mind, but I cant imagine he'd have gone off the reservation so far to think it would be good for him in the long run.

    You know how when you're soo close to something for so long you start thinking weird things about protecting it? Maybe he's hoping for something for the team that we're missing.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:45

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78206

    Domenicali on Massa's replacement post Spa. Interesting are also the last few paragraphs re Kimi and his future:

    "It is important to understand the situation and I don't think it is a point of discussion that we need to start today. That is the answer."

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:48

    "It is important to understand the situation and I don't think it is a point of discussion that we need to start today. That is the answer."

    *chews on it for a second

    Kimi on the podium now 3x in a row, something happened to him when massa got hit. maybe he realized how much he likes running. Somebody said something about having a giant grin under his helmet during a race. I could see some truth in that.

    But then rallying is a whole other ball of birt-covered wax, and nothing is nearly as heart-pumping as turning 120mph 2ft from the tress with about 1/2 inch of contact patch on the ground. And if he's going anywhere else, its to rally. That man can drive on dirt.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:52

    wasnt massa supposed to get a metal plate installed? If true he wont be back, I dont think, until next year. Insert more conspiracy theories on 3x Ferrari cars on the grid.

    Which brings us back to Alonso. Again. With FA, Renault is in a serious world of hurt next year.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 17:53

    Which brings us back to Alonso. Again. With FA, Renault is in a serious world of hurt next year.

    sorry without

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 17:54

    Renault don't deserve Alonso. He was right to leave for 2007, he shouldn't have gone back.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 17:58

    Renault don't deserve Alonso. He was right to leave for 2007, he shouldn't have gone back.

    he did not have that many choices that time ...

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 18:00

    he did not have that many choices that time ...

    Hahaha no! He shouldn't have made such a prat of himself at McLaren. But hey, that's hindsight for you :)

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 18:00

    he did not have that many choices that time ...

    we all knew it was just a stop gap until he went to ferrari

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 18:00

    wasnt massa supposed to get a metal plate installed? If true he wont be back, I dont think, until next year. Insert more conspiracy theories on 3x Ferrari cars on the grid.

    It won't happen, it can't unless every team gets the option to run 3 cars, and that can't happen.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 18:01

    Hahaha no! He shouldn't have made such a prat of himself at McLaren. But hey, that's hindsight for you :)

    To be fair it wasn;t his fault ron Dennis is such an utter plonker!

    Here's a question though; would he have preferred being at Mclaren under the management of Martin Whitmarsh rather than Ron Dennis? Lewis was basically Ron's favourite little project that he watched over no matter what, but not so much Whitmarsh of course.

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 18:03

    Hahaha no! He shouldn't have made such a prat of himself at McLaren. But hey, that's hindsight for you

    I somehow do not see that situation in McLaren in 2007 so black and white ... but well, that does not have that much to do with Singapore 2008. oh well other than there may be Alonso connection in another serious punishment for a team he raced for :-)

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 18:03

    To be fair it wasn;t his fault ron Dennis is such an utter plonker!

    I disagree. Alonso made his own problems. It's not like Ron Dennis was an unkown quantity. He had been running an F1 team for 25 years by that stage so Alonso should have known how Ron would behave

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 18:04

    I disagree. Alonso made his own problems. It's not like Ron Dennis was an unkown quantity. He had been running an F1 team for 25 years by that stage so Alonso should have known how Ron would behave

    Agreed

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 18:05

    I disagree. Alonso made his own problems. It's not like Ron Dennis was an unkown quantity. He had been running an F1 team for 25 years by that stage so Alonso should have known how Ron would behave

    Agreed

    Even i know that under a Ron Dennis management that you'd be limited in lots of ways.

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 18:05

    I think that in his current, more reasoned and mature state of mind, he'd get on fine at McLaren now.

    Of course, this could bring him down to earth with a bump too! Presumably there's the implication he knew this was going on and was complicit in it. There have to be consequences to that. This goes beyond any fiasco he caused at McLaren with his "win at all costs" attitude.

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 18:05

    ... for 25 years by that stage so Alonso should have known how Ron would behave

    Also Alonso got into the whole spy scandal thing when he really had no need to say anything whatsoever. Maybe his plan was to earn the favor of a certain italian team?

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 18:06

    This goes beyond any fiasco he caused at McLaren with his "win at all costs" attitude.

    he was not the only one with that attitude in that team :-)

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 18:07

    Also Alonso got into the whole spy scandal thing when he really had no need to say anything whatsoever. Maybe his plan was to earn the favor of a certain italian team?

    You think he went to McLaren to unearth a spy scandal to help his future team?

    I think thats a tad toooo far ;)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 18:07

    ...whcih leads me to his involvement in the Singapore issue. You'd think he'd have known better considering how damaging even a tiny bit of insider info could be when it comes to this kind of behavior. Even text messages are potential weapons in this environment and FA would remember that

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 18:07

    I think that in his current, more reasoned and mature state of mind, he'd get on fine at McLaren now.

    There is one possibility that no-one has considered. We ar all assuming Martin Whitmarsh said Alonso had signed for Ferraribecause he knew it to be true. It may be that he has signed Alonso and was just winding up Ferrari. Now there is an interesting possibility.

    I can't see him wanting to go up against Hamilton again though.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 18:08

    ...whcih leads me to his involvement in the Singapore issue. You'd think he'd have known better considering how damaging even a tiny bit of insider info could be when it comes to this kind of behavior. Even text messages are potential weapons in this environment and FA would remember that

    He may not have known....

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 18:08

    he was not the only one with that attitude in that team :-)

    I'm by no means trying to suggest he was completely responsible for what went on that year. Similarly, I don't think you could say he was entirely innocent. He behaved like a spoilt brat, but I did think he'd grown up since then.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 18:09

    Live thread open

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 18:09

    You think he went to McLaren to unearth a spy scandal to help his future team?

    No BUT he got involved for no apparent reason. He would know how easy it is to blow something like this open, and how little it actually takes to get the job done, and would probably balk at PK having anything even close to insider information on team manuevers like throwing away a race (and about a million dollars in parts and time, no less)

  • Alison30/08/2009 at 18:10

    I think we're gonna move to the new show thread now :)

  • F1Wolf30/08/2009 at 18:11

    and again, he was not the only one in that team :-)

    sure I agree, he was not entirely innocent, all I am saying is that I do not see 2007 McLaren situation as black and white. at the same time I can't wait to see how would Ferrari manage him unless they plan to pair him not with Massa or Kimi but with Mr BAD :-)

  • gravit8ed30/08/2009 at 18:13

    To finish this thought, before moving over...well, again this is all speculation and we havent the slightest inkiling how deep these decisions could go.

    We had this president that INSISTED he didn't know about certain things going on over here and, well...this whole things seems pretty similar to American politics and politics in general.

    I guess the best thing to do is look at the money trail somehow.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 18:14

    I guess the best thing to do is look at the money trail somehow.

    i think you need to lay off the conspiracy pills ;)

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 20:45

    Depending on any massively breaking news stories, we are probably not doing a live show next week.

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We'll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 20:46

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We'll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

    That is an interesting idea

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 20:47

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We'll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

    I actually own that film on DVD, so I'm up for that!

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 20:47

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We'll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

    ooh i like :)

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 20:47

    Depending on any massively breaking news stories, we are probably not doing a live show next week.

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We'll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

    Love it! I haven't seen it either, I got the DVD very cheap ages ago and never got around to watching it.

  • me30/08/2009 at 20:48

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We'll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

    That is an interesting idea

    the only issue might be, uk films tend to run 5 frames per second faster than us version, so by the end of the film we might a minute or so out.

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 20:49

    the only issue might be, uk films tend to run 5 frames per second faster than us version, so by the end of the film we might a minute or so out.

    If we end the film only a minute out, I will be very impressed :)

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 20:49

    Dank just posted this pic on twitter

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1316591

  • lou30/08/2009 at 20:49

    Depending on any massively breaking news stories, we are probably not doing a live show next week.

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We'll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

    oooo nice idea! i'd be up for that... however... you'd need to give me plenty of notice... it takes ages for me to download stuff...

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 20:50

    the only issue might be, uk films tend to run 5 frames per second faster than us version, so by the end of the film we might a minute or so out.

    Christine and Alex couldn't manage an episode of Friends without phone calls and toilet breaks interrupting. A dozen people on here at the same time would probably mean the fil would last 4 hours

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 20:51

    Dank just posted this pic on twitter

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1316591

    Harsh but fair.

  • me30/08/2009 at 20:51

    Christine and Alex couldn't manage an episode of Friends without phone calls and toilet breaks interrupting. A dozen people on here at the same time would probably mean the fil would last 4 hours

    in that case i'm in.

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 20:51

    oooo nice idea! i'd be up for that... however... you'd need to give me plenty of notice... it takes ages for me to download stuff...

    I'll blog about it later :)

  • lou30/08/2009 at 20:52

    I'll blog about it later :)

    yay :D

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 20:52

    Depending on any massively breaking news stories, we are probably not doing a live show next week.

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We'll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

    Sounds good! I have that film :)

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 20:53

    Dank just posted this pic on twitter

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1316591

    Someone posted that in the comments earlier

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 20:54

    Someone posted that in the comments earlier

    Did they? Missed that, sorry!

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 20:56

    Did they? Missed that, sorry!

    Not a problem.

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 20:56

    Right, I'm off for a bit. See ya later!

  • lou30/08/2009 at 20:57

    Right, I'm off for a bit. See ya later!

    see ya later :)

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 20:57

    Bye Chris and anyone else leaving

  • me30/08/2009 at 20:57

    Right, I'm off for a bit. See ya later!

    see ya chris. happy sidepodversary.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 20:57

    Right, I'm off for a bit. See ya later!

    ciao

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 20:59

    Lou, how did you find out when your first comment was? I know what mine was, but not when

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:00

    Lou, how did you find out when your first comment was? I know what mine was, but not when

    I can find this out for you.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:01

    I can find this out for you.

    ah :) thank you. i can tell you what it is if thats helpful

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:01

    Lou, how did you find out when your first comment was? I know what mine was, but not when

    You ask Mr C or Christine I suppose. Ifthey can find peoples forst comment they should be able to tell when I assune

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:02

    Lou, how did you find out when your first comment was? I know what mine was, but not when

    erm cause i knew what it was, and that it must have been around the Hungarian GP that year, which was in August... so i searched the August threads about the Hungarian GP :)

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:03

    ah :) thank you. i can tell you what it is if thats helpful

    Is this it?

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/04/26/live-commenting-spain-qualifying/#comment-65930

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:03

    erm cause i knew what it was, and that it must have been around the Hungarian GP that year, which was in August... so i searched the August threads about the Hungarian GP :)

    Lou is lucky to have arrived when there were only about six comments per thread :)

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:04

    Is this it?

    sure is :)

    thannnk you

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:04

    Lou is lucky to have arrived when there were only about six comments per thread :)

    ehehe :P

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 21:05

    #554 - Christine said:

    Depending on any massively breaking news stories, we are probably not doing a live show next week.

    However, we are thinking about watching a racing-related film and maybe live commenting it together. Top of the list at the moment is Talladega Nights (available to rent on iTunes). People will need their own copies. We’ll all sync and start at the same time, and comment away. What do you think?

    But if you did Grand Prix, you would see awesome footage of old F1 tracks like Spa in its glory days, Legends of F1 in there prime and knock off one the movies off your recommended to watch movies.... And mind boogling PASSING at a silly place called Monaco!

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:06

    That means that i've only been here a year and a few months. It feels ALOT longer than that

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:06

    That means that i've only been here a year and a few months. It feels ALOT longer than that

    Sidepodtimewarp?

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:07

    Sidepodtimewarp?

    Just sidepodtime ;)

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:07

    That means that i've only been here a year and a few months. It feels ALOT longer than that

    see i've been here over two years and it seems to have flown by... i wonder if mr c is really a time lord?... lol

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:08

    That means that i've only been here a year and a few months. It feels ALOT longer than that

    see i've been here over two years and it seems to have flown by... i wonder if mr c is really a time lord?... lol

    I find it odd because i listened to the podcasts from alot earlier on, so it was ages before i actually commented. Seems wierd to think that now

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 21:10

    #590 - lou said:

    That means that i’ve only been here a year and a few months. It feels ALOT longer than that

    see i’ve been here over two years and it seems to have flown by… i wonder if mr c is really a time lord?… lol

    Would explain how he can knock off both Paul and Ringo.... :P

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:11

    Would explain how he can knock off both Paul and Ringo.... :P

    :D

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:11

    see i've been here over two years and it seems to have flown by... i wonder if mr c is really a time lord?... lol

    That would explain why none of us know Ringo Starr is dead and he does

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:11

    Would explain how he can knock off both Paul and Ringo.... :P

    it all makes sense now...

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 21:12

    That would explain why none of us know Ringo Starr is dead and he does

    Because it hasn't happened yet. Hmm, that's quite plausible.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:17

    Because it hasn't happened yet. Hmm, that's quite plausible.

    Should we warn Ringo that an invisible, anonymous time traveller is going to kill him somehow, sometime by an unknown method so that he can take precautions

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 21:18

    Memo: Sidepodcast Panda Cosworth F1 Racing

    To: Alinora, Chief of R & D.

    From: Jordna Allen, #27 Race Engineer

    Subject: Background Check, mr C.

    Alinora, has one of the TARDIS from Sidepodcast Panda Cosworth gone missing gone missing again, and, eh, how did we manage to pick up one of those things in the first place, anyway?

    We really need to check the C. V. background of that Chief Illumination Officer guy more closely....

    J. Allen

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 21:22

    Did I miss something or is hitting someone from behind now the other person's fault?

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:23

    Did I miss something or is hitting someone from behind now the other person's fault?

    wassup?

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:23

    We really need to check the C. V. background of that Chief Illumination Officer guy more closely....

    oops!

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:23

    Did I miss something or is hitting someone from behind now the other person's fault?

    The Grosjean quote?

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:24

    Did I miss something or is hitting someone from behind now the other person's fault?

    is this about Grosjean?

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 21:24

    The Grosjean quote?

    Yes. I thought he hit Button, not the other way around.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:25

    Yes. I thought he hit Button, not the other way around.

    He did

    ....

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:25

    Memo: Sidepodcast Panda Cosworth F1 Racing

    To: Alinora, Chief of R & D.

    From: Jordna Allen, #27 Race Engineer

    Subject: Background Check, mr C.

    Alinora, has one of the TARDIS from Sidepodcast Panda Cosworth gone missing gone missing again, and, eh, how did we manage to pick up one of those things in the first place, anyway?

    We really need to check the C. V. background of that Chief Illumination Officer guy more closely....

    J. Allen

    :D :D

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:25

    Yes. I thought he hit Button, not the other way around.

    i missed it. what he say?

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:25

    i missed it. what he say?

    That he was going well until he got hit by button

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:26

    That he was going well until he got hit by button

    what??

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:26

    i missed it. what he say?

    he blamed Jenson for the crash... apparently Jenson hit him... :(

    he lies! :(

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:27

    what??

    now you know why i don't like him much anymore ;) :cries:

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:29

    I found Jensons reaction but cant find Grosjeans quote

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 21:30

    he blamed Jenson for the crash... apparently Jenson hit him... :(

    he lies! :(

    It's true, sort of. Just watched the replay and Grosjean hit Button, sending him into a spin. Button's car then runs backwards into Grosjean, knocking him into the barriers.

  • Alianora La Canta30/08/2009 at 21:30

    Alinora, has one of the TARDIS from Sidepodcast Panda Cosworth gone missing gone missing again, and, eh, how did we manage to pick up one of those things in the first place, anyway? {Comment #598}

    To: J. Allen, #27 Race Engineer

    From: A. La Canta, Head of R&D

    Date: August 30 2009

    Reference: BC/MC01

    We originally picked the TARDISes up as part of a deal with the BBC. Last I checked, the TARDISes, they were all back at base.

    I will refer your request for a background check on Mr C to Human Resources, which should have the necessary clearance to conduct said check.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 21:30

    I found Jensons reaction but cant find Grosjeans quote

    From the Renault quotes:

    Romain Grosjean - DNF: "I made a very good start, moving up to thirteenth place and I was keeping a good pace but then Button took me out at turn five and it was the end for me. It's frustrating because I would have loved to finish the race and learn more about the car on this very special track. Hopefully I can do better in Monza."

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:30

    what??

    he says

    "I made a very good start, moving up to thirteenth place and I was keeping a good pace but then Button took me out at turn five and it was the end for me. It's frustrating because I would have loved to finish the race and learn more about the car on this very special track. Hopefully I can do better in Monza."

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:30

    I will refer your request for a background check on Mr C to Human Resources, which should have the necessary clearance to conduct said check.

    :D :P

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:31

    It's true, sort of. Just watched the replay and Grosjean hit Button, sending him into a spin. Button's car then runs backwards into Grosjean, knocking him into the barriers.

    you can see from Jenson's on board footage that he was hit..

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:31

    I found Jensons reaction but cant find Grosjeans quote

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78183

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 21:31

    #611 - lou said:

    what??

    now you know why i don’t like him much anymore :cries

    Standard F1 driver fluff, Lou. The guy behind is always going to blame in front for not looking in the mirrors, the guy in front is always going to blame behind for being to optmistic....

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:31

    It's true, sort of. Just watched the replay and Grosjean hit Button, sending him into a spin. Button's car then runs backwards into Grosjean, knocking him into the barriers.

    ahahahehehehohoho

    :)

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 21:32

    oh by the way, Mr C I need that DeLorean when you've finished with it. I know you're just about set off on your 3-month trip around musical landmarks of the last 40 years, could you drop it at mine when you're done, say in half an hour?

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:33

    oh by the way, Mr C I need that DeLorean when you've finished with it. I know you're just about set off on your 3-month trip around musical landmarks of the last 40 years, could you drop it at mine when you're done, say in half an hour?

    :cry:

    never.gonna.live.this.down

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:33

    Standard F1 driver fluff, Lou. The guy behind is always going to blame in front for not looking in the mirrors, the guy in front is always going to blame behind for being to optmistic....

    why can't more drivers be like Vettel and admit their mistakes... ;)

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:34

    never.gonna.live.this.down

    *punches the air*

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 21:34

    never.gonna.live.this.down

    Awwwwww, poor mr c.

    I just hope Muse don't pull out of any big gigs anytime coming up and I asked on here if you may know why, is all. :P

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:35

    never.gonna.live.this.down

    You can't kill a Beatle and expect people to forget it

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:35

    never.gonna.live.this.down

    it was really really funny though...

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:36

    It's true, sort of. Just watched the replay and Grosjean hit Button, sending him into a spin. Button's car then runs backwards into Grosjean, knocking him into the barriers.

    just watched it myself, the man has a point.

    Button is the one who made Grosjean retire, but Mr Renault gave him a clout so its his fault too

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:36

    *punches the air*

    I Ringo's sidepodmurder was as deliberate as Piquet's Singapore crash so that no-one would remember that Missing Montagny with Bourdais still in the team is beating Longitudinal Inertia

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:37

    from the renault blog. check out the damage on this car after turn one

    is that even drivable?

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:37

    Button is the one who made Grosjean retire, but Mr Renault gave him a clout so its his fault too

    you know what they say... an eye for an eye... a DNF for a DNF... :P

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:38

    is that even drivable?

    whats wrong with it? apart from the wheel

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:39

    whats wrong with it? apart from the wheel

    front wing. front left floor.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:39

    whats wrong with it? apart from the wheel

    bit of a broken front wing

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:39

    I Ringo's sidepodmurder was as deliberate as Piquet's Singapore crash so that no-one would remember that Missing Montagny with Bourdais still in the team is beating Longitudinal Inertia

    :P

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:39

    is that even drivable?

    is that a piece of bodywork attached to Alonso's front left wheel spinner thing?...

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 21:39

    To: A. La. Canta, Head of R&D

    From: J. Allen #27 Race Engineer

    Date: August 30 2009

    Reference: BC/MC01 (a)

    We originally picked the TARDISes up as part of a deal with the BBC. Last I checked, the TARDISes, they were all back at base.

    So the said Chief Illuminination Officer did not come from the BBC with the said TARDISes as part of a package deal? Interesting.

    Please transfer my previous memo to the care of Human Resources, then. Thank you.

    J. Allen

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:39

    front wing. front left floor.

    ah yes, it would still be 'drivable' just not fast, at all

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 21:40

    I just hope Muse don't pull out of any big gigs anytime coming up and I asked on here if you may know why, is all. :P

    Oo-er, thats freaky... as I posted that, they announced a huge French gig on their website...

    *shivers*

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:41

    Jake blog, Jake blog:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jakehumphrey/2009/08/they_say_you_always_remember.html

    "Indulge me for a moment as I point out that I really enjoy DC's company."

    Madness.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:41

    I just hope Muse don't pull out of any big gigs anytime coming up and I asked on here if you may know why, is all. :P

    if they pull out of the devon ones...i'll cry

  • me30/08/2009 at 21:41

    is that a piece of bodywork attached to Alonso's front left wheel spinner thing?...

    yup. looks like a force india.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 21:42

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jakehumphrey/2009/08/they_say_you_always_remember.html

    "Indulge me for a moment as I point out that I really enjoy DC's company."

    THAT PICTURE IS TERRIFYING

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:42

    "Indulge me for a moment as I point out that I really enjoy DC's company."

    awww :)

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 21:42

    if they pull out of the devon ones...i'll cry

    ICANTHEARYOULALA

  • James30/08/2009 at 21:45

    is that even drivable?

    He drove it for quite a while after. So clearly he wasn't having many problems.

  • Alianora La Canta30/08/2009 at 21:45

    Has anyone seen the Force India tshirts for sale yet. Ive got one but I think it’s last years. There new stuff is all Reebok. {Comment #245}

    The 2009 Force India stuff is due to turn up in November, or so the shopkeeper at my local branch of the F1 Shop tells me. This has made getting prizes for the Force Fans Online predictions competition a little... ..tricky.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:45

    "Indulge me for a moment as I point out that I really enjoy DC's company."

    Bot not EJ's ?

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:45

    yup. looks like a force india.

    wow.

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:45

    He drove it for quite a while after. So clearly he wasn't having many problems.

    James! Did you want to know your first comment?

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 21:46

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/grosfail-jpg

    #sorrylou

    although I hope you'll agree with it :P

  • James30/08/2009 at 21:47

    James! Did you want to know your first comment?

    Erm sure. Unless its really bad.

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 21:47

    Bot not EJ's ?

    You have to ask?

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:47

    THAT PICTURE IS TERRIFYING

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dcvswendolineteeth-jpg

    seen them in the same room?

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:47

    although I hope you'll agree with it :P

    hehehe :D

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:47

    seen them in the same room?

    teeettthh

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:48

    Erm sure. Unless its really bad.

    I shall look.

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:49

    Erm sure. Unless its really bad.

    Awsome first comment:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/31/2009-character-cup/#comment-183075

    "why was Heikki’s head cut off in the video? xD"

  • James30/08/2009 at 21:51

    Erm sure. Unless its really bad.

    Awsome first comment:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/31/2009-character-cup/#comment-183075

    "why was Heikki’s head cut off in the video? xD"

    Haha I like that.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:51

    "why was Heikki’s head cut off in the video? xD"

    Mr C killed Heikki?

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 21:52

    back from dinner. What did I miss?

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:52

    Mr C killed Heikki?

    Heikki died?

    Don't tell Amy

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:52

    back from dinner. What did I miss?

    Mr C killed Heikki and Ringo Star

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:52

    Mr C killed Heikki?

    #sorryamy

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 21:53

    Mr C killed Heikki and Ringo Star

    We're gonna need a list.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 21:53

    Mr C killed Heikki and Ringo Star

    Pictures came and broke your heart.

    Oh-a-a-a oh...

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:53

    We're gonna need a list.

    wiki?

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 21:53

    Mr C killed Heikki and Ringo Star

    I knoew about Ringo. Someone stop that man! We should put out a photo so that people can know what he looks li...wait...we may have a problem here

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:53

    Pictures came and broke your heart.

    Oh-a-a-a oh...

    :D :D :D

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:53

    Don't tell Amy

    I think she will notice

  • James30/08/2009 at 21:54

    thank you christine. I will make my page soon :)

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 21:54

    We're gonna need a list.

    At this rate I am going to need a bullet proof vest

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:55

    Pictures came and broke your heart.

    Oh-a-a-a oh...

    Mr C killed Ringo Star

    Heikki aswell, it broke Amy's heart

    When she found out it broke her heart

    When she found out it broke her heart

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:55

    I think she will notice

    not necessarily... Lukeh is awesome at photoshop...

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 21:55

    Mr C killed Ringo Star

    Heikki aswell, it broke Amy's heart

    When she found out it broke her heart

    When she found out it broke her heart

    Oh-a-a-a-oh

    Oh-a-a-a-oh

    i think im going to need to make this into a song

  • lou30/08/2009 at 21:56

    At this rate I am going to need a bullet proof vest

    hahaha DC has one of those... so he will be safe :)

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 21:57

    not necessarily... Lukeh is awesome at photoshop...

    "Why does he wearing the exact same stuff as he did last year? And why are the sponsors out of date?"

    urrrrrm...

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 21:58

    #669 - Chris said:

    Mr C killed Heikki and Ringo Star

    I knoew about Ringo. Someone stop that man! We should put out a photo so that people can know what he looks li…wait…we may have a problem here

    Not only that, but mr. C uses a DeLorean to time travel to conduct his sidepodcastmurders ! (The Sidepodcast Panda TARDIS where proven to be secured....)

  • Alianora La Canta30/08/2009 at 22:01

    I’d like to read eddie jordan, just for laughs. does he publish anything or does writing require too much initial thought? {Comment #406}

    He used to write a column for F1 Racing (between mid-2005 and mid-2007). He's also written an autobiography.

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:01

    "Why does he wearing the exact same stuff as he did last year? And why are the sponsors out of date?"

    hehehe

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 22:03

    not necessarily... Lukeh is awesome at photoshop...

    So is he going to photoshop the rest of the season?

  • startledbunny30/08/2009 at 22:03

    hello guys. got a couple of streams out of the even

    ing.

    I'm at Bassano level inebriation :)

    have a good night all

    SB

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 22:03

    i think im going to need to make this into a song

    Video killed the radio star

    But Mr c killed Ringo Starr

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:04

    So is he going to photoshop the rest of the season?

    I'm working on a deal with Bernie to artifically photoshop the races from 2011 onwards.

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:04

    So is he going to photoshop the rest of the season?

    i'm sure he'd be up for the challenge ;)

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:04

    I'm working on a deal with Bernie to artifically photoshop the races from 2011 onwards.

    :D

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:04

    i think im going to need to make this into a song

    Video killed the radio star

    But Mr c killed Ringo Starr

    ahaha XD

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 22:05

    I'm working on a deal with Bernie to artifically photoshop the races from 2011 onwards.

    How often is he going to be on the top step?

    Also, are you going to 'shop Kimi as his teammate?

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:05

    How often is he going to be on the top step?

    Also, are you going to 'shop Kimi as his teammate?

    All I can say is Rubens to race till he's 60.

  • Aitch30/08/2009 at 22:06

    So is he going to photoshop the rest of the season?

    If he does will that mean Barrichello will be the drivers champion:)

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:07

    All I can say is Rubens to race till he's 60.

    can you protect Jenson from any attacks by Mr C? lol :P

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:09

    can you protect Jenson from any attacks by Mr C? lol :P

    Sure! I'll flip a coin to decide each year between Jenson and Rubens for champion as well to 'shop in. Perhaps Franck too if either decides they're gonna take a 'being awesome break'. Heck, by 3 or 4 years I'd be more hated than Max for making the sport too predictable :P

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 22:11

    #692 - lou said:

    All I can say is Rubens to race till he’s 60.

    can you protect Jenson from any attacks by Mr C? lol

    You know, maybe I accused the wrong co-host of being "Carlos"... Sorry. Panda.....

  • Alianora La Canta30/08/2009 at 22:14

    and there comes FIA saying – “Told ya so, here is the good old Cossie …” {Comment #504}

    ...that's also embarrassingly slow and looks like getting the FIA into a huge amount of trouble!

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 22:15

    ...that's also embarrassingly slow and looks like getting the FIA into a huge amount of trouble!

    Could it be slower than Luca B?

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 22:16

    I'm writing a song and its Lukeh's fault

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 22:19

    #697 - Jon Waldock said:

    I’m writing a song and its Lukeh’s fault

    Steven might file a complaint. Taking Blame is part of Steven's Job Descrption around here....

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 22:20

    Steven might file a complaint. Taking Blame is part of Steven's Job Descrption around here....

    #blamesteventoo

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 22:21

    Steven might file a complaint. Taking Blame is part of Steven's Job Descrption around here....

    There is so much blame around here I am thinking of appointing a couple of assistants. My one man operation is not up to taking the blame for the murder of multiple major celebrities.

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 22:22

    I'm writing a song and its Lukeh's fault

    You have to sing it and put it on the drop!

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 22:23

    There is so much blame around here I am thinking of appointing a couple of assistants. My one man operation is not up to taking the blame for the murder of multiple major celebrities.

    If it helps, I get the blame for punching them!

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 22:24

    You have to sing it and put it on the drop!

    I shall :)

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 22:24

    There is so much blame around here I am thinking of appointing a couple of assistants. My one man operation is not up to taking the blame for the murder of multiple major celebrities.

    Things really get serious here on Sunday nights. I was going to ask what I missed, but now I'm not sure I want to know. ;-)

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:24

    There is so much blame around here I am thinking of appointing a couple of assistants. My one man operation is not up to taking the blame for the murder of multiple major celebrities.

    if it were me i'd blame Mr Grosjean...

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:24

    If it helps, I get the blame for punching them!

    See now THAT you can #blamelukeh

    :P

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 22:25

    Things really get serious here on Sunday nights. I was going to ask what I missed, but now I'm not sure I want to know. ;-)

    well, turns out Mr C killed Hekki and Ringo Starr...it's a long story!

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:25

    If it helps, I get the blame for punching them!

    that's cause there were witnesses :P

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 22:25

    well, turns out Mr C killed Hekki and Ringo Starr...it's a long story!

    It must be. Makes for a long day reading comments at work I imagine.

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 22:26

    that's cause there were witnesses :P

    Does that mean that you side with lukeh?

  • me30/08/2009 at 22:26

    well, turns out Mr C killed Hekki and Ringo Starr...it's a long story!

    there may or may not be a replay video available on the homepage. it may or may not contain unfounded rumours about a legendary drummer.

  • Alianora La Canta30/08/2009 at 22:27

    Bot not EJ’s ? {Comment #649}

    He already admitted enjoying EJ's company in this month's F1 Racing. It's not news any more...

  • Paul30/08/2009 at 22:27

    there may or may not be a replay video available on the homepage. it may or may not contain unfounded rumours about a legendary drummer.

    Now I am intrigued.

    Stupid no internet video at work.

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 22:28

    there may or may not be a replay video available on the homepage. it may or may not contain unfounded rumours about a legendary drummer.

    :D Remember that when asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world, John Lennon said "he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles"

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:28

    Does that mean that you side with lukeh?

    if you remember.. i was actually running away at the time it happened... i just turned round when you called me and both you and John were looking at me so i walked over quickly, heard Mr Button say something about me having the camera... i laughed and shrieked, then he said something else and i walked away laughing... lol i didn't see anything :P

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 22:29

    #707 - Chris said:

    Things really get serious here on Sunday nights. I was going to ask what I missed, but now I’m not sure I want to know.

    well, turns out Mr C killed Hekki and Ringo Starr…it’s a long story!

    It is almost like a game of Sidepodcast Clue. We know who did it, we are just working out the place and the murder weapon to win the game.... :D ...

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 22:29

    Words soted, midi file found (its a classic ;) )

    I shall record in the morning

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:29

    I shall record in the morning

    we have to wait till morning! :(

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 22:30

    that's cause there were witnesses :P

    Don't say that. Mr C will think you want him to kill the witnesses

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 22:30

    It is almost like a game of Sidepodcast Clue. We know who did it, we are just working out the place and the murder weapon to win the game.... :D ...

    Mr C in the McLaren garage with the rolled up copy of F1 Racing?

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:30

    if you remember.. i was actually running away at the time it happened... i just turned round when you called me and both you and John were looking at me so i walked over quickly, heard Mr Button say something about me having the camera... i laughed and shrieked, then he said something else and i walked away laughing... lol i didn't see anything :P

    There was definitely a bit of a right hand swing from Chris in there somewhere

    *hides*

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 22:30

    we have to wait till morning! :(

    I'm quite sure my parents wouldn't appreciate being woken up by me singing

    "Mr C Killed Ringo Star (You are a Sidepoder)"

  • Steven Roy30/08/2009 at 22:31

    :D Remember that when asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world, John Lennon said "he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles"

    Pete Best thought the same

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:32

    Don't say that. Mr C will think you want him to kill the witnesses

    the witnesses to Chris punching John Button??? i wont allow Mr C to kill Lukeh... lol

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:32

    I'm quite sure my parents wouldn't appreciate being woken up by me singing

    haha :) okay then...

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:32

    Don't say that. Mr C will think you want him to kill the witnesses

    Uh oh.

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 22:32

    the witnesses to Chris punching John Button??? i wont allow Mr C to kill Lukeh... lol

    Mr C can't kill him anyway. He'd miss his photosopping skills...

  • Chris30/08/2009 at 22:33

    *shopping

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:33

    Mr C can't kill him anyway. He'd miss his photosopping skills...

    I would photoshop 500 fake Lukehs just in case

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 22:34

    #720 - Andy Taylor said:

    It is almost like a game of Sidepodcast Clue. We know who did it, we are just working out the place and the murder weapon to win the game…. …

    Mr C in the McLaren garage with the rolled up copy of F1 Racing?

    I do not think a rolled up copy of F1 Racing can behead a person, gumshoe, remember the head of Kovi was completely removed from the shoulders like it was cropped from a video... :D .

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 22:37

    I do not think a rolled up copy of F1 Racing can behead a person, gumshoe, remember the head of Kovi was completely removed from the shoulders like it was cropped from a video... :D .

    You have a point, but then Heikki has been racing since that photo was posted.

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 22:37

    http://twitpic.com/fwist

    ehehehehe

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/08/2009 at 22:37

    Suppertime, here. As much as I would like to poke fun at Michael Myers, here, er I mean mr. C....

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:39
  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:42

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/thomas-jpg

    I have updated my childhood based on todays actions

  • Andy Taylor30/08/2009 at 22:43

    I have updated my childhood based on todays actions

    Lol!

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:43

    I have updated my childhood based on todays actions

    ehehe :D

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 22:44

    I have to sleeep, if im awake when the new Daily comes out i turn into a Sidepodtoad, and no-one wants to see that.

    I shall bid thee all goodnight

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 22:45

    I shall bid thee all goodnight

    Night Jon.

    I have been doing nerdy things with graphs.

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:46

    I shall bid thee all goodnight

    night!

  • lou30/08/2009 at 22:47

    I shall bid thee all goodnight

    night Jon! :)

  • me30/08/2009 at 22:49

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/thomas-jpg

    I have updated my childhood based on todays actions

    :D

    :D

    :P

  • Jon Waldock30/08/2009 at 22:53
  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 22:54

    *cough*

    ha :-)

  • Lukeh30/08/2009 at 22:54

    *cough*

    The smiley face gives me a resounding sense of hope

  • me30/08/2009 at 22:54

    *cough*

    i knew it!

  • Pat W30/08/2009 at 22:58

    I don't care if you post it early, I'm resolutely staying here until midnight.

  • Christine30/08/2009 at 22:58

    I don't care if you post it early, I'm resolutely staying here until midnight.

    That is allowed.