Yes, it's all true. Sidepodcast is on hiatus. This daily thread is here to keep you all occupied whilst Mr C and I take a break from anything Formula 1 related, which includes this site.

I know some of you are confused why a certain driver could cause such a meltdown at Sidepodcast Towers, but Mr C's comment here sums it up nicely, as do Alex's thoughts here.

We apologise for the abruptness of this change of plans, and also for the postponement of Sidepodradio (more on that here).

Please be nice to each other while we're not around, because we'll be even more miserable if we have to get back and wade through pages of nasty comments.

Have a good day.

1134 responses

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:02

    Umm, guys?

    This ones warmer :)

  • Nick29/07/2009 at 23:05

    Have a good Hiatus guys... maybe there is something to be said for the outside world after all :D

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:06

    We do love you guys, and hope you can just relax and really take your mind off this and everything thats been rubbish.

    Take as long as you need :)

  • Pat W29/07/2009 at 23:07

    We shall be good as gold. Enjoy your well-earned break and I hope you return refreshed.

  • littlepurplegoth29/07/2009 at 23:08

    Not that you'll see this... but hope that *everything* has been switched off and plans to flee to somewhere without signal or remote access enacted... at least for a few days.

  • Scott Woodwiss29/07/2009 at 23:09

    A break for you guys is long overdue and you deserve it and more importantly NEED it more than anything right now.

    Now go, have fun, relax and forget about F1 for a while. That's an order ;)

    Seriously, enjoy the break and hope you come back refreshed and in a better state than you're currently in. Take care now! :)

  • Lukeh29/07/2009 at 23:13

    We'll misses you'se guys while your gone :( but if anyone deserves a break away from it all its you! Just fingers crossed a smile comes back on your face the next time you face the world of F1 and it's not a world of annoyance but the re-emergence of a wantingness to talk, listen to, watch and discuss what should be the pinnacle of motorsport. Fingers crossed that day will come as soon as possible...

    Hope you have a wonderful time whatever you choose to spend the holiday hiatus doing :) We'll all be here waiting for you!

  • Scott Woodwiss29/07/2009 at 23:15

    Not sure why but I'm getting a bit emotional. It's gonna feel kinda empty without these 2. :(

    But it's only for a while and it's for the best.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)29/07/2009 at 23:16

    Sad to see, but if you need a break, then you should take one and recharge the batteries. In 20 years I have needed a break from the sport twice, but you find that when you are ready to return, you wonder why you left in the first place ;)

    The past year has been a lot of fun - you guys have shown me a whole new way to enjoy the sport and the people I have met here have been fantastic.

    I've really enjoyed being a part of the shows - the Sidepodpanels have been a load of fun especially. And who can forget the awesome Sidepodmeetup day? I won't for a while, I'm sure...

    You also got me blogging again - and thank you for all the help and encouragement...

    I'm gonna miss you guys not being around ... your content is fantastic and really adds to the sport for me. Enjoy your break and hopefully see you soon ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss29/07/2009 at 23:26

    (Yes third post, I know! :P )

    As I've said before, without Sidepodcast my view on F1 would probably be much different. I'm so glad I stumbled on the community and watched grow and flourish into something simply astounding. There's no F1-related site I know that does things and works like SPC does.

    This place has become a small part of my life and my friends. I never used to have people to talk to F1 about. Now I do. I never used to have a blog. Now I do. I never used to have the chance to get my opinions and thoughts heard by people who had similar views and interests. Now I do. And it's all thanks to you guys.

    We will meet one day on a Sidepodmeetup, that is still a promise I want to keep! Being involved with all the live shows, debates, discussions and general enjoyment of it all has kinda changed me as a person a bit. It's made me see things and some aspects of the sport in ways I'd never even considered before. I've made a fantastic bunch of friends here and I'll never forget that.

    Thank you, Christine. Thank you, Mr C. Thank you both for keeping my love of F1 as strong as ever. I hope that continues for the forseeable future and beyond :)

  • Keith the marshal29/07/2009 at 23:28

    Now I have another reason to hate he cheating german grrrrrrrr

  • Andy Taylor29/07/2009 at 23:29

    Now I have another reason to hate he cheating german grrrrrrrr

    :D Made me laugh anyway.

  • Nick29/07/2009 at 23:29

    This place has become a small part of my life and my friends. I never used to have people to talk to F1 about. Now I do. I never used to have a blog. Now I do. I never used to have the chance to get my opinions and thoughts heard by people who had similar views and interests. Now I do. And it's all thanks to you guys.

    I agree with this completly.

    Mr and Mrs C you have created a Legendry place. You just have to look at your meetings with Rob and the BBC people at silverstone to see that...

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:30

    Now I have another reason to hate he cheating german grrrrrrrr

    It's not just that keith, he shouldnt be completely to blame.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)29/07/2009 at 23:33

    So... what happens now? Do we stay here and wait? What if the site goes down?

    I would suggest to you all that we keep connected on twitter and Facebook just in case... that way, we all make sure we stay in touch...

  • Pat W29/07/2009 at 23:35

    So... what happens now? Do we stay here and wait? What if the site goes down?

    We stay in this thread and carry on as normal. I'm not sure how many posts a thread can take.

    I would suggest to you all that we keep connected on twitter and Facebook just in case... that way, we all make sure we stay in touch...

    Contigency planning is a good idea

    If the site goes down while they are away we should update the front page of the wiki, and everyone should bookmark it if they haven't done so already. http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/

  • Scott Woodwiss29/07/2009 at 23:35

    So... what happens now? Do we stay here and wait? What if the site goes down?

    Looks like it. It's just one thread from now until they get back. Not sure how it'll cope but we'll just have to carry on as normal and keep fingers crossed that everything behaves itself.

    I would suggest to you all that we keep connected on twitter and Facebook just in case... that way, we all make sure we stay in touch...

    Great idea. At least we'll still be able to communicate should this place suffer a fault for some reason while they're gone.

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:35

    So... what happens now? Do we stay here and wait? What if the site goes down?

    Just keep going i guess, the site dosent go down very often, and if it does i'm sure it won't be long before MT put it back again.

    Lets just play it by ear mate.

  • Lukeh29/07/2009 at 23:36

    Woah, Scott, I didn't realise the race pro pack was actually on the marketplace right now...!!!

  • Scott Woodwiss29/07/2009 at 23:36

    Woah, Scott, I didn't realise the race pro pack was actually on the marketplace right now...!!!

    INDEED! :D

  • Scott Woohwiss29/07/2009 at 23:37

    Woah, Scott, I didn't realise the race pro pack was actually on the marketplace right now...!!!

    How else would that guy have made that video in the first place! (That's not a Simbin or Atari account) :P

  • Lukeh29/07/2009 at 23:38

    How else would that guy have made that video in the first place! (That's not a Simbin or Atari account) :P

    Ahh, see I assumed it was a preview, plus having heard nothing of it as well. Cheers though! Great little surprise, am downloading it now.

  • Flibster29/07/2009 at 23:38

    What if the site goes down?

    Swear about Mediatemple?

  • Scott Woohwiss29/07/2009 at 23:39

    Ahh, see I assumed it was a preview, plus having heard nothing of it as well. Cheers though! Great little surprise, am downloading it now.

    Please do tell what Spa is like! :D

  • Nick29/07/2009 at 23:39

    Please do tell what Spa is like! :D

    Do you have Racedriver:GRID?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)29/07/2009 at 23:40

    What if the site goes down?

    Swear about Mediatemple?

    But where will we be swearing about MediaTemple? ;)

  • Lukeh29/07/2009 at 23:40

    Please do tell what Spa is like! :D

    Willllllll do.

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:40

    But where will we be swearing about MediaTemple? ;)

    ahaha :D :D :D

  • Pat W29/07/2009 at 23:40

    I would suggest to you all that we keep connected on twitter and Facebook just in case... that way, we all make sure we stay in touch...

    There is also the SPC Facebook group:

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=22534566720

  • Flibster29/07/2009 at 23:40

    But where will we be swearing about MediaTemple? ;)

    In your own little world?

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:40

    Please do tell what Spa is like! :D

    Does the original Race Pro not have Spa?

  • Flibster29/07/2009 at 23:41

    There is also the SPC Facebook group:

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=22534566720

    Involves setting up a twitter/myface/spacebook....

    Hmmmmm.....

  • Scott Woohwiss29/07/2009 at 23:42

    Does the original Race Pro not have Spa?

    Nope, this is a new DLC pack which adds on 9 new cars, Spa and Mid-Ohio.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)29/07/2009 at 23:42

    There is also the SPC Facebook group:

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=22534566720

    Involves setting up a twitter/myface/spacebook....

    Hmmmmm.....

    I think you may need to just in case... probably a good idea to do both twitter and Facebook...

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:43

    Nope, this is a new DLC pack which adds on 9 new cars, Spa and Mid-Ohio.

    You are telling me that this so called amazing Race sim doesnt have Spa as standard?!?

    Thats an outrage!!

  • Pat W29/07/2009 at 23:43

    I think you may need to just in case... probably a good idea to do both twitter and Facebook...

    Not necessarily. Journeyer is able to follow us on Twitter without an account. And several of us have blogs, and dedicated email addresses for those blogs. Word will get around.

  • Nick29/07/2009 at 23:43

    Involves setting up a twitter/myface/spacebook....

    If you bookmark the wiki, you can do it if and when its needed..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)29/07/2009 at 23:43

    Nope, this is a new DLC pack which adds on 9 new cars, Spa and Mid-Ohio.

    You are telling me that this so called amazing Race sim doesnt have Spa as standard?!?

    Thats an outrage!!

    Are you sure???

  • Lukeh29/07/2009 at 23:44

    Are you sure???

    It definitely doesn't otherwise I wouldn't be downloading an add-on pack for it now with Spa ;)

  • Flibster29/07/2009 at 23:47

    I think you may need to just in case... probably a good idea to do both twitter and Facebook...

    I don't want them. I already have 2 blogs setup and neither have been updated in over a year... those social network experiments hold no interest.

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:47

    It definitely doesn't otherwise I wouldn't be downloading an add-on pack for it now with Spa ;)

    Personally, i think thats outrageous, it's been on the previous Race Driver games. Tis my favourite circuit for most cars

  • Nick29/07/2009 at 23:47

    Involves setting up a twitter/myface/spacebook....

    You could tweet PK and ask him why he hired a manager that doesnt know **** about F1

  • Scott Woohwiss29/07/2009 at 23:48

    Personally, i think thats outrageous, it's been on the previous Race Driver games. Tis my favourite circuit for most cars

    Well they did say before releasing the game that they had no fewer than 7 DLC packs planned, and Spa was mentioned as one of the main add-ons to be brought out.

  • Pat W29/07/2009 at 23:49

    You could tweet PK and ask him why he hired a manager that doesnt know **** about F1

    His Dad?

    I saw your tweet to Rubens :-)

  • Lukeh29/07/2009 at 23:49

    Personally, i think thats outrageous, it's been on the previous Race Driver games. Tis my favourite circuit for most cars

    ahh that's a different series see. You're thinking of TOCA: Race Driver which has indeed had Spa!

    This is from the makers of GTR, RACE 07, etc. :)

  • Flibster29/07/2009 at 23:50

    Right. Movie time!

    Something nice and gentle and relaxing. A Nightmare on Elm Street should do.

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:50

    Well they did say before releasing the game that they had no fewer than 7 DLC packs planned, and Spa was mentioned as one of the main add-ons to be brought out.

    Are they free?

  • Nick29/07/2009 at 23:50

    His Dad?

    I saw your tweet to Rubens :-)

    hehe, yeah, i think he said Flav was his manager in the middle of his rant?

    maybe i am confused!

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:50

    This is from the makers of GTR, RACE 07, etc. :)

    ooooh really. didnt know that. my bad :D

  • Nick29/07/2009 at 23:50

    Well they did say before releasing the game that they had no fewer than 7 DLC packs planned, and Spa was mentioned as one of the main add-ons to be brought out.

    I stilll am waiting for the GRID Aussie V8 content...

  • Lukeh29/07/2009 at 23:51

    Are they free?

    Nope. 800 Microsoft points each, which in normal speak is about £6

  • Lukeh29/07/2009 at 23:52

    Scott, the download is nowhere near done and I'm absolutely shattered so I'll give it a play tomorrow and let you know in the evening after you've been at work how it is :)

    For now I must head to the land of sleepiness. Night all!

  • Scott Woohwiss29/07/2009 at 23:52

    Are they free?

    800MS points, so sadly not. There were some that were supposed to be free, though.

    Plus they've named it DLC Pack 3. Now, is that a typo or am I missing something here?

  • Scott Woohwiss29/07/2009 at 23:53

    Scott, the download is nowhere near done and I'm absolutely shattered so I'll give it a play tomorrow and let you know in the evening after you've been at work how it is :)

    Not a problem. I shall head off too. Night, guys :)

  • Jon Waldock29/07/2009 at 23:53

    For now I must head to the land of sleepiness. Night all!

    Night!!

    Im going the same way, night all

  • Nick29/07/2009 at 23:54

    guess i should follow, goodnight sidepodcast!

  • Pat W29/07/2009 at 23:55

    hehe, yeah, i think he said Flav was his manager in the middle of his rant?

    oh maybe he is

  • Pat W29/07/2009 at 23:55

    Night all leaving. I'm off when I've finished this..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)29/07/2009 at 23:58

    Night all leaving. I'm off when I've finished this..

    Night Pat

  • Alenyaa30/07/2009 at 00:12

    All this simply because of Schumacher's temporary return to Formula 1?

    I'm sorry people, but I have to say this reaction really rather disappoints me. I know many don't like the man, which is your good right and absolutely fine by me, even I as a fan had moments of doubt, but seriously, taking a break just because of that?

    I mean, you've watched him during his active career and you managed that fine, didn't you? What's the mere remainder of this season compared to the other 16 years in Formula 1?

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 00:18

    just got to work and saw the news. ARGH.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 00:20

    just got to work and saw the news. ARGH.

    Indeed.

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 00:20

    just got to work and saw the news. ARGH.

    No, Grrrrr.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 00:26

    Good night all - sleep well :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 00:28

    I mean, you've watched him during his active career and you managed that fine, didn't you? What's the mere remainder of this season compared to the other 16 years in Formula 1?

    Sidepodcast wasn't started until he retired so they would not have to deal with him. Those of us who detest him thought we had put those dark days behind us and had a pleasant future to look forward to and now this disaster.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 00:28

    just got to work and saw the news. ARGH.

    Not a good day at work then?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 00:29

    Night Gavin

  • Alenyaa30/07/2009 at 00:32

    and now this disaster.

    Now that's a bit of an overreaction, isn't it?

  • Alenyaa30/07/2009 at 00:34

    Sidepodcast wasn't started until he retired so they would not have to deal with him.

    Sorry, half of my post went missing there.

    I do believe Mr and Mrs C watched F1 during his career, according to diary entries Mrs C once posted

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 00:37

    Now that's a bit of an overreaction, isn't it?

    I don't think so. We have a driver who thought nothing of ramming other drivers, pushing them off the track at 200mph, sticking his brother in the wall etc. Somehow the generation that followed him have managed to avoid those habits and now he is back.

    We know Ferrari had a special relationship with the FIA that let him and his team do what they like regardless of the rules and his team boss from that time is Max's choice of successor so although Ferrari are not blatantaly favoured any more the chosen one will be.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 00:37

    I do believe Mr and Mrs C watched F1 during his career, according to diary entries Mrs C once posted

    They watched it but they didn't spend many hours a day producing podcasts and websites on it.

  • Alenyaa30/07/2009 at 00:43

    Yeah, I'm sorry Steven but that last bit just sounds conspiracy theory-ish to me. Although the FIA have sided with Ferrari in the past.

    I'll grant without hesitation that he got away with things he shouldn't have though, and in no way am I trying to justify some of the things he did.

    But at the same time I also feel there are cases in which people exagerated and made a big deal of it just because it's MS they were talking about.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 00:50

    I'll grant without hesitation that he got away with things he shouldn't have though, and in no way am I trying to justify some of the things he did.

    But at the same time I also feel there are cases in which people exagerated and made a big deal of it just because it's MS they were talking about.

    He rammed Hill to win his first title. H rammed Villeneuve to try to take his third. He pushed Alonso on to the grass on the Hangar straight at close to 200 mph. He tried to force Hakkinen of the track at 200 mph at Spa.

    He repeatedly chopped people at the start of races to such an extent that the one move rule was introduced. His cars were regularly found to have illegal features that were somehow OK yet things like mass dampers which had been legal were banned mid season. Of course we know now that Ferrari had a technology veto.

    All of the above was OK by Max and now Max has Donnelly controlling the stewards.

    Where is the conspiracy theory it is all verifiable fact and barely covers a fraction of the things he was allowed to do.

    Schumacher is the biggest cheat in the history of the sport. It baffles me that anyone can be a fan of his.

  • Alenyaa30/07/2009 at 00:54

    As I said, he got away with things he shouldn't have and FIA have sided with Ferrari in the past.

    Thanks for the illustration.

  • Alenyaa30/07/2009 at 00:56

    It baffles me that anyone can be a fan of his.

    I guess because he knows how to drive a car is part of the explanation.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:03

    I guess because he knows how to drive a car is part of the explanation.

    We will never know how good he was because he refused to have a competitive team mate and the one time a team mate looked like putting him in his place the team stepped in to prevent it. Johnny Herbert was not the driver he was before his F3000 accident but he was faster than Schumacher at Benetton. By the second race he was denied access to Schumacher's data but Schumacher saw his.

    Barrichello comfortably beat Schumacher about twice a season. H hasn;t looked that good against Button.

  • Alenyaa30/07/2009 at 01:11

    Barrichello comfortably beat Schumacher about twice a season. H hasn;t looked that good against Button.

    Seriously Steven, I feel that sort of argument is beneath you. You know you can't compare that.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:24

    Schumi's coming back?! Oh my.

    Morning, everyone.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 01:27

    Morning everyone.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:28

    Seriously Steven, I feel that sort of argument is beneath you. You know you can't compare that.

    Why not? Button has destroyed Barrichello this season. He has him questioning his position in the team, how the team are treating him and how fast he himself is. Schumacher in a team he all but owned never managed that. No doubt the Schumacher fans will say that Barrichello is old and slow now that someone has blown him away.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:29

    Schumi's coming back?! Oh my.

    Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse Schumacher is back.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:30

    Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse Schumacher is back.

    Well, I guess I should've seen it coming, but wow.

    His objective isn't to win the world title (not this season anyway), but to get best of the rest (which is 5th at this point, I think). I wonder what role he'll play in Brawn v Red Bull, though.

    No Christine and Mr C for a while? Oh man.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:32

    No Christine and Mr C for a while? Oh man.

    Schumacher broke sidepodcast. As if I didn't hate him enough

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:33

    Schumacher broke sidepodcast. As if I didn't hate him enough

    Well, if anything, at least we have a month-long break. Hopefully, they'll feel better on the other side of the break.

    This might become a rather long Daily thread, though.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 01:34

    This might become a rather long Daily thread, though.

    Surely somebody else could take over that. Not that there's going to be much to talk about each day for 4 weeks though...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:35

    This might become a rather long Daily thread, though.

    I think threads can be set to load at a set time so a few dailies can be stacked. I guess the big problem is if the site goes down.

    You need to speak to Janine when you see her. She is from the Phiipines

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:37

    You need to speak to Janine when you see her. She is from the Phiipines

    She is?!?

    Daaaang. Yup, will make a mental note.

    philippines but living in uk… but i have a bit of a fascination with scandinavia if you’re wondering

    Sounds like our own version of Amy! :D

  • James P.30/07/2009 at 01:38

    I'm fairly new to F1 (just started watching last year) and I had no idea what people thought of MS.

    I guess I know now, too bad I had to learn about it this way :/

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:39

    I guess I know now, too bad I had to learn about it this way :/

    As a Schumi fan, I would try to counter it with the reasons why I support him, but we've had many a debate about that here.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:41

    Sounds like our own version of Amy! :D

    Yep. Very confused about which part of the world she belongs to just like Amy. She posted a drawing she did of Mass on th 29th daily. It's really incredible.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:42

    Someone on another mentioned that this is all so surreal. A bit like wrestling, where you don't know if what's going on is scripted or not...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:43

    I'm fairly new to F1 (just started watching last year) and I had no idea what people thought of MS.

    The one thing you will find on this site is there are no shortage of opinions on almost any subject. And few subjects polarise like Schumacher.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:43

    The one thing you will find on this site is there are no shortage of opinions on almost any subject. And few subjects polarise like Schumacher.

    Correction: no other subject polarises more than Schumacher. Nothing comes even close, I think.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:44

    Correction: no other subject polarises more than Schumacher. Nothing comes even close, I think.

    What happened today happened for a very good reason, after all.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:46

    Someone on another mentioned that this is all so surreal. A bit like wrestling, where you don't know if what's going on is scripted or not...

    I am sure this is Bernie's doing. He lost Alonso from Valencia and now he has pulled Schumacher out of the hat.

    The odd thing is the one person likely to lose out of this is Schumacher as people were prepare to forget the things he did and react to him as a person as we saw on Top Gear recently. Now he is jeapordising all that good wil because no-one will buy that again if he gets up to his old tricks.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:46

    Very good point on JA's forum:

    It would be crazy for the FIA to keep Alonso out of the tussle of former champions on home soil though.

    Expect a severe fine and a reprimand, but no suspension, then?

    Like him or not, Schumi will send the ratings up - at least for a while.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:48

    The odd thing is the one person likely to lose out of this is Schumacher as people were prepare to forget the things he did and react to him as a person as we saw on Top Gear recently. Now he is jeapordising all that good wil because no-one will buy that again if he gets up to his old tricks.

    Well, I dunno. I guess you have a point, but most people's opinion on him had been formed regardless of what he did post-career.

    Will he be as... dastardly as he was the last time round? No - well, not yet anyway. He tends to behave when there's no title at stake, but it should be interesting to see how well he'll do in the car.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:48

    I must ask Joe in Fla if there is something odd about Tampa's ball park. I think in the time I have been watching baseball I have seen one triple. The Rays just got the third one I have seen in three days and I haven't really been payng attention.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:49

    I must ask Joe in Fla if there is something odd about Tampa's ball park. I think in the time I have been watching baseball I have seen one triple. The Rays just got the third one I have seen in three days and I haven't really been payng attention.

    Hahaha! I see triples a bit more often than you, but yeah, that is a rare thing. I've even see one grand slam from a batter before: a single, a double, a triple, and a home run. :D

  • James P.30/07/2009 at 01:50

    The one thing you will find on this site is there are no shortage of opinions on almost any subject. And few subjects polarise like Schumacher.

    Yeah, I'm picking up on that :)

    Not knowing the full history I'm not quite sure what to think, but the rest of the season may be telling. I hope he doesn't get up to his old tricks, F1 has enough problems as it is.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 01:55

    Not knowing the full history I'm not quite sure what to think, but the rest of the season may be telling. I hope he doesn't get up to his old tricks, F1 has enough problems as it is.

    My attitude when I am new to anything is listen to everything I can, watch everything I can and read everything I can then form my own opinion.

    There are a lo tof people on this site who have only been following the sport for a short time so don't worry about putting your opinions out there.

    I am hoping one of thethings that happens over the next few days is that people who have not commented before turn up to say how much they enjoy the site an give their opinions of all aspects of F1.

    Anyone who produces content for a website loves to get feedback so the best way to keep the site going is to let the management know that their efforts are appreciated and join inthe comments

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 01:55

    Not knowing the full history I'm not quite sure what to think, but the rest of the season may be telling. I hope he doesn't get up to his old tricks, F1 has enough problems as it is.

    He has no need to. He will still do better than a number of other drivers though.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:56

    I am hoping one of thethings that happens over the next few days is that people who have not commented before turn up to say how much they enjoy the site an give their opinions of all aspects of F1.

    Yes, I agree with this one. :) I do hope they're not discouraged by the hiatus, though.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:57

    He has no need to. He will still do better than a number of other drivers though.

    I will probably get him in FR when he comes up. This might end up being a spectacular disaster, but golly, I'm willing to take the risk.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 01:59

    Good point on Twitter: Schumi's comeback easily trumps BMW's withdrawal in the newspapers.

    F1 comes up of roses again.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:00

    And from another forum:

    Schumi will be the 6th German on the grid. There’ll only be 18 cars on the grid at Valencia. A third of the drivers will be German! Schnell schnell, das regenmeister ist sehr gut!

    Kathi won't like this one bit.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 02:00

    Hmm, my doohickey seems not to be working properly. It isn't telling me how many new posts there are when I am in a different tab like it normally does.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:01

    Hmm, my doohickey seems not to be working properly. It isn't telling me how many new posts there are when I am in a different tab like it normally does.

    Refresh?

    Are you using Chrome? It's a known issue there, methinks.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 02:01

    Are you using Chrome? It's a known issue there, methinks.

    Firefox.

  • James P.30/07/2009 at 02:01

    Well, all this hullabaloo got me to finally comment on the site, so there's that :)

    I love the site and I love the podcasts (Haven't had a chance to watch any of the streaming/live stuff). I will especially miss the podcasts.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:02

    Kathi won't like this one bit.

    It was Kathi who broke the news he was coming back today. Her first post was simply.

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:02

    Firefox.

    Ahhh. Click 'Quick Comment'. That might fix it - does for me.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 02:02

    Refresh?

    Didn't work. Oh well. It's very frustrating though.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:02

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

    As usual, it happens when I sleep early.

    When will I learn?!?! :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:03

    Hmm, my doohickey seems not to be working properly. It isn't telling me how many new posts there are when I am in a different tab like it normally does.

    Have you de-selected the follow comments box?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:03

    Didn't work. Oh well. It's very frustrating though.

    Well, last resort is to close and reopen the browser.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:04

    I love the site and I love the podcasts (Haven't had a chance to watch any of the streaming/live stuff). I will especially miss the podcasts.

    The live streaming is the best bit. You have to see a live show when they do the next one. The first thing you will learn is what a great editor Christine is because you won't believe it is possible to make a podcast from what is recorded.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 02:05

    Well, last resort is to close and reopen the browser.

    I thought of that, but I'm not doing it. I'll put up with it.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:05

    Well, last resort is to close and reopen the browser.

    I am a proper expert. Have you tried switching it off and on again?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:05

    The live streaming is the best bit. You have to see a live show when they do the next one. The first thing you will learn is what a great editor Christine is because you won't believe it is possible to make a podcast from what is recorded.

    And they do it so matter-of-factly.

    Who suggested them doing live shows again? Was it you or Lou?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:05

    I am a proper expert. Have you tried switching it off and on again?

    :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:07

    Who suggested them doing live shows again? Was it you or Lou?

    As I remember they live streamed a recording of F1 minute to try some streaming software and got a good reaction and it built from there.

    Lou suggested live commenting for races.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:07

    As I remember they live streamed a recording of F1 minute to try some streaming software and got a good reaction and it built from there.

    Ahhh, yes, that's right.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:19

    Sooo...

    What to do this weekend?

    Hmmm.

    Well, there's WRC Rally Finland.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 02:21

    Well, there's WRC Rally Finland.

    Kimi's racing there yeah?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:21

    Kimi's racing there yeah?

    Yes, he is, in fact.

    Too bad it's almost impossible to watch. At least there's WRC Radio.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 02:36

    Evening all.

    I thought of a good analogy to describe how I feel about Schumacher coming back. From a blog post I wrote:

    "Now he is back. I know, I know... it is temporary till Massa gets better (hopefully sooner than later) but I just don't want to see him. There are just so many bad memories with the guy. It like going on a blind date and finding it's with your ex-wife who cheated and tortured you during the marriage. There is an awkward conversation, some reminiscing about some of the good portion of the old times, but in the end you remember how much she hurt you. You just want to get up, walk away, and cry a little bit.

    I feel that way with Schumacher right now. I don't want to see him. I don't want to hear him. I want to enjoy Button, Hamilton, Webber, and Vettel duke it out for the championship. I don’t want a sideshow which Schumacher joining Ferrari is. The sport has been so good since he left."

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:38

    I feel that way with Schumacher right now. I don't want to see him. I don't want to hear him. I want to enjoy Button, Hamilton, Webber, and Vettel duke it out for the championship. I don’t want a sideshow which Schumacher joining Ferrari is. The sport has been so good since he left."

    Funnily enough, a lot of people on Twitter and the forums are excited he's coming back.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:42

    I feel that way with Schumacher right now. I don't want to see him. I don't want to hear him. I want to enjoy Button, Hamilton, Webber, and Vettel duke it out for the championship. I don’t want a sideshow which Schumacher joining Ferrari is. The sport has been so good since he left."

    Couldn't agree more Dan. He bugged me enough sitting on the pit wall but that smug attitude in the car is going to be awful. The one hope we have is that he is miles off the pace but I am not optimistic about that.

    I wonder how hard he is going to be prepared to push a car that twitches unexpectedly like the current Ferrari.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:42

    Just saw the #blameschumacher hash.

    I like this mashup with #tedkravitzfacts

    "Ted Kravitz was passed over for the Jordan seat at the 1991 Belgian GP."

    Winner!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:42

    Funnily enough, a lot of people on Twitter and the forums are excited he's coming back.

    I need tospend tomorrow on twitter balancing things out then

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:43

    I need to spend tomorrow on twitter balancing things out then

    Do so - I suggest you interact with the folks. I'm intrigued to see what convos come up.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:46

    Do so - I suggest you interact with the folks. I'm intrigued to see what convos come up.

    I have argued with Schumacher fans for many years. It is pointless as they all have this messianic belief in him.

    I remember the Monaco parking incident. The anti-Schumacher faction were discussing the speed of the car, steering inputs etc try to analyse thing and the Schumacher fans all said but Michael wouldn't do that. That was their whole argument. A guy who rammend people and slammed his own brother into a wall would not park his car to stop someone beating his time.

    How do you argue rationally with people who are having a religious experience?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:50

    Time I was in bed. Hopefully i will wake up to find today was a horrific nightmare.

    Good night all and try and make sure that no-one misbehaves while the management is on a break. We need to keep the place in good order for them when they wake from their nightmare.

    Also we need lurkers to comment to convince Christine and Mr C that they should carry on in the face of Ferrari's outrageous provocation. Your comment may make the difference.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:51

    Interesting to see which retired World Champions decided to make a comeback (only going as far back as the 80s):

    M. Schumacher - Yes (TBD)

    Hakkinen - No

    Villeneuve - Yes (points finishes)

    Hill - No

    Mansell - Yes (1 race win)

    Prost - Yes (7 race wins, 1 championship)

    Piquet - No

    Jones - No

    Rosberg - No

    Lauda - Yes (8 race wins, 1 championship)

    Based on this, it seems champion comebacks are at least moderately successful. Should be interesting to see where MSC ends up.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:51

    Time I was in bed. Hopefully i will wake up to find today was a horrific nightmare.

    I'm afraid you'll be disappointed. This was what I woke up to.

    Good night all and try and make sure that no-one misbehaves while the management is on a break. We need to keep the place in good order for them when they wake from their nightmare.

    Yup, I agree. Let's stay behaved.

    Also we need lurkers to comment to convince Christine and Mr C that they should carry on in the face of Ferrari's outrageous provocation. Your comment may make the difference.

    Yes, please, please delurk. It'll all be for the best. :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 02:52

    Interesting to see which retired World Champions decided to make a comeback (only going as far back as the 80s):

    Prost didn't really retire he was fired by Ferrari and couldn't get a drive for 92.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:53

    Prost didn't really retire he was fired by Ferrari and couldn't get a drive for 92.

    I guess you could say that. But I included it there anyway, as he didn't drive an F1 car competitively for a whole season. Call it a forced hiatus.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 02:53

    One of the most ridiculous movies ever made... Point Break with Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 02:53

    One of the most ridiculous movies ever made... Point Break with Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves.

    Oh my.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 02:54

    One of the most ridiculous movies ever made... Point Break with Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves.

    Have you seen Hot Fuzz and their references to it?

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 03:00

    Have you seen Hot Fuzz and their references to it?

    Oh yeah. My friend actually wrote a song about Simon Pegg. He liked it and commented on her blog. Seems like a really good guy.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 03:11

    One of the most ridiculous movies ever made... Point Break with Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves.

    I forgot tat the lead singer of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers was in this movie in a cameo where he shoots his own foot.

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 03:27

    i just went and stocked up at the market because i no longer feel i can go to a ferrari restaurant for dinner.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 03:28

    i just went and stocked up at the market because i no longer feel i can go to a ferrari restaurant for dinner.

    Good day Amy.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 03:30

    i just went and stocked up at the market because i no longer feel i can go to a ferrari restaurant for dinner.

    A Ferrari resto? You had one? Cool. :D

    Hello, by the way. ;) It seems Janine is our country's answer to you - moved abroad, has a fondness for Scandinavia. :D

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 03:33

    A Ferrari resto? You had one? Cool. :D

    To quote Anchorman.

    I'm not even angry... I'm impressed.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 03:33

    Here's a question:

    Why is it that people in general on the F1 forums seem to excited about Schumi coming back... but not here? I'm not criticizing or anything, but I am wondering...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 03:33

    I'm not even angry... I'm impressed.

    :D

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 03:36

    Why is it that people in general on the F1 forums seem to excited about Schumi coming back... but not here? I'm not criticizing or anything, but I am wondering...

    Either they are fans or they haven't been following F1 as much or as long as some people here.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 03:37

    Either they are fans or they haven't been following F1 as much or as long as some people here.

    Hmmm. Good point. It's just that the reaction has been generally one of shock and joy.

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 03:39

    its an italian cafe that is the headquarters of the melbourne ferrari club and there is memorabilia everywhere. Lots of photos of the drivers with the staff, the team always goes there when they are in town. Even as a non ferrari fan it is impressive but not at the moment! Everyone there will be so smug.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 03:40

    its an italian cafe that is the headquarters of the melbourne ferrari club and there is memorabilia everywhere. Lots of photos of the drivers with the staff, the team always goes there when they are in town. Even as a non ferrari fan it is impressive but not at the moment! Everyone there will be so smug.

    you know, they won't necessarily be smug. for all we know, michael might be way off the pace. but as steven said, i wouldn't count on it.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 03:40

    Hmmm. Good point. It's just that the reaction has been generally one of shock and joy.

    Joy? Hmm. I thought there would be interest at least. I personally don't think he'll do any better that Felipe or Kimi.

    Would I be excited if Mika came back? Not sure. Probably more worried that he would be off pace.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 03:42

    Joy? Hmm. I thought there would be interest at least. I personally don't think he'll do any better that Felipe or Kimi.

    Certainly, he shouldn't be expected to. I don't. Age and race-rustiness will do that. As long as he does decently - score a couple of points, maybe get a podium - I'll be happy.

    But if he beats them... Hmmm...

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 03:43

    Why is it that people in general on the F1 forums seem to excited about Schumi coming back... but not here? I'm not criticizing or anything, but I am wondering...

    I think it is a combination of things. With me for example, I couldn't stand the Ferrari years when he and Toft ruled the roost. What was the breaking point was the 2003 and 2005 US Grand Prix.

    I respect him for the talent and how he could led a team. I don't respect him for the lengths he would go to win.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 03:44

    Certainly, he shouldn't be expected to. I don't. Age and race-rustiness will do that. As long as he does decently - score a couple of points, maybe get a podium - I'll be happy.

    It's a problem that the lack of testing has caused, just look at Not-Seb's performance. If Ferrari had some young hot-shoe pounding around Fiorano every week, they would probably have put them in.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 03:57

    Point Break update:

    Keanu Reeves pointing a gun, looks into Patrick Swayze's eye... points the gun to the skies, fires off the entire clip while screaming, "NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

    ROLF

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 03:58

    Keanu Reeves pointing a gun, looks into Patrick Swayze's eye... points the gun to the skies, fires off the entire clip while screaming, "NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

    As I was saying before, Nick Frost does it SOOO much better. ;)

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 03:59

    As I was saying before, Nick Frost does it SOOO much better. ;)

    Buemi does a good "Nooooooo!!"

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 04:00

    Buemi does a good "Nooooooo!!"

    :D

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 04:00

    Buemi does a good "Nooooooo!!"

    In the sidepodmelodrama... he will play Johnny Utah.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 04:12

    Yay! I now have DVD's to last the next few weeks. Seasons 3 and 4 of 24 just arrived.

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 04:17

    morning

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 04:19

    I sicerely hope that Schumacher does not win any race any more. I have the race program from his last win signed by him and I want it to stay that way ...

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 04:25

    morning

    Greetings.

  • Iaian30/07/2009 at 04:29

    Well this kind of sucks :(

    Hopefully things turn around by at least Monza or Spa. I enjoy the race weekends here.

    I think Valencia might actually be entertaining for once. Schumacher will be put into a car he's never driven, with regs he's never raced under, in a track he's never been to. The potential for him screwing up all on his own is rather high. He might even cause more harm to Ferrari's position in the standings than if Gene had the seat.

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/07/2009 at 04:34

    Mr. C. and Christine.

    Being a person who would rather gladly befriend the devil than Michael Schumacher, if those where my only choices I can understand why Schumacher's appearence back into F1 would cause you two to give up on F1 temporary, however, Schuie still has to pass some medical tests to see whether or not he is still fit enough for F1.... I mean even if he was a Spring Chicken in 1994 that still 15 years ago....The body can only take a beating from G Forces for so long.....

    Let us see if he can still be able to have a seat fitted for him before he can start his F1 tests to see if he can race before you two do anything shocking first....

    In a very backhanded compliment to Hamilton I say he is just as evil, ruthless and reckless as Senna was so I would not be surprized if Schumacher tried to use his "Rep" to frighten this bunch of F1 drivers and Schuie and Hamilton find out that two F1 cars can not share the same space at the same time unless both are vapourized. Not being mean here but just stating simple physics....

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/07/2009 at 04:37

    #148 - Journeyer said:

    Here’s a question:

    Why is it that people in general on the F1 forums seem to excited about Schumi coming back… but not here? I’m not criticizing or anything, but I am wondering

    Idiots multiply rapidity, don't they?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 05:56

    I sicerely hope that Schumacher does not win any race any more. I have the race program from his last win signed by him and I want it to stay that way …

    You have that?! Sooo cool. I have a diecast model of his last win. But I think he'll sneak a race win or two this season.

    I think Valencia might actually be entertaining for once. Schumacher will be put into a car he’s never driven, with regs he’s never raced under, in a track he’s never been to. The potential for him screwing up all on his own is rather high. He might even cause more harm to Ferrari’s position in the standings than if Gene had the seat.

    Indeed, it's a car he's never driven. He's sorta raced under these regs before. In fact, prior to this season, only he and Rubens would have experience driving with no TC on slicks. This can go either way, really.

    Schuie still has to pass some medical tests to see whether or not he is still fit enough for F1

    Either he'll pass it or (more probably) he already did. His base fitness isn't a question. The bigger question would be if he can still do a whole race distance at anything near his previous form.

    Idiots multiply [rapidly], don’t they?

    Actually, a majority of people (including some F1 journalists) are excited about this one. I wouldn't call all Schumi fans idiots.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 05:59

    Let us see if he can still be able to have a seat fitted for him before he can start his F1 tests to see if he can race before you two do anything shocking first….

    Why do I have this feeling that they've always had his seat moulding stored somewhere at Maranello, ready to pull out if they need to drive for them?

    I would agree with you, though. A Schumi-Hamilton front row would be very interesting, with Brawn and Red Bull behind them hoping they take each other out...

  • Jackie / saltire30/07/2009 at 06:35

    Here’s a question:

    Why is it that people in general on the F1 forums seem to excited about Schumi coming back… but not here? I’m not criticizing or anything, but I am wondering…

    You could turn that on it's head and say why are people here not keen?

    Personally I like it for the chance to see how he fares against Raikkonnen in the same equipment and against Hamilton.

    I wasn't a fan at the time of Senna but I would love to have seen him race. Imagine my joy if he were to be racing at Valencia. There must be many youngsters new to F1 who love Lewis and wonder what if, how would he have done against Michael because they never saw Michael race.

    Isn't that something to be pleased or at least mildly interested about? And after all, it's not like he's said he's coming back properly. It may just be one or two races since Massa is doing so well.

  • Jackie / saltire30/07/2009 at 06:37

    OOh sorry I put that comment of Journeyer's in a link tag instead of a quote tag.

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 06:43

    Isn't that something to be pleased or at least mildly interested about? And after all, it's not like he's said he's coming back properly. It may just be one or two races since Massa is doing so well.

    I am, I have to say, fascinated to see how it goes.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 06:49

    As I was saying before, Nick Frost does it SOOO much better.

    finally saw Hot Fuzz last week. worth the wait ;)

    as for F1, a few days ago people here were making jokes about if we were going to say we'd stop supporting F1 if they banned refueling, but it was all in jest because we'd still all be here the next day, the next season, whatever. I am shocked and disappointed by the few comments I've had time to read this morning. Everyone is allowed to make their own decisions about what schumi's return means. I was not a fan of the man either when he was last racing, but Ferrari made a call to put in a driver to fill an empty spot, and it was a logical decision. As unpopular as this might be around here: I'm looking forward to seeing a champion make a comeback (and doesn't that always go well in every sport ;).

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 06:51

    i am looking forward to it and will be watching solely to see kimi soundly beat him. If ever there was a time for a finn to be our saviour...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 07:01

    i am looking forward to it and will be watching solely to see kimi soundly beat him. If ever there was a time for a finn to be our saviour…

    kimi better beat him. in fact, he should beat him.

    but as steven said, even if kimi beats him, they'll just say that he didn't beat schumi in his prime. he's in a no-win situation.

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 07:01

    looks like Singapore organizers are getting a bit desperate to get the spectators this year ... I just received call from them. something along the lines that I attended last year but they have no record of me buying ticket this year :-) if they plan to call everybody they have some busy times ahead ...

    funny enough I bought tickets for this year and just received mail a day or to ago they will be dispatching them next week :-)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 07:02

    As unpopular as this might be around here: I’m looking forward to seeing a champion make a comeback (and doesn’t that always go well in every sport ;) )

    Agreed. :)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 07:04

    if they plan to call everybody they have some busy times ahead …

    if you search for singapore f1 on twitter, you'll see that there's increased interest in buying tickets for what may be Schumi's only F1 race in Singapore. I think Schumi's return is a godsend for them. question is, by how much?

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 07:17

    As unpopular as this might be around here: I’m looking forward to seeing a champion make a comeback (and doesn’t that always go well in every sport ;) )

    Agreed. :)

    Glad I'm not the only one!

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 07:18

    if you search for singapore f1 on twitter, you'll see that there's increased interest in buying tickets for what may be Schumi's only F1 race in Singapore. I think Schumi's return is a godsend for them. question is, by how much?

    I'm sure it will be the same at Monza in September.

    what price will Schumi be for fantasy racers??? not that i've cared about FR all year but i'm curious.

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 07:19

    Glad I'm not the only one!

    I do not have any problems with him. He did not crash the car with me, he is OK :-)

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 07:21

    I do not have any problems with him. He did not crash the car with me, he is OK :-)

    a nice standard to measure a driver :) I have a problem with him, but I'm okay with his return to F1.

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 07:26

    I have problems with him, I don't think he should be returning. But as always with formula one, I am interested to see what happens next in this ridiculous soap opera we call a sport :)

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 07:26

    I have problems with him, I don't think he should be returning. But as always with formula one, I am interested to see what happens next in this ridiculous soap opera we call a sport :)

    In many ways it reminds me of when they brought Dirty Den back in Eastenders.

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 07:27

    In many ways it reminds me of when they brought Dirty Den back in Eastenders.

    ... or Tony Almeida in 24 ...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 07:32

    what price will Schumi be for fantasy racers??? not that i’ve cared about FR all year but i’m curious.

    Price is based on demand rather than actual ability, so I suspect he'll start with a high price.

    The only thing stopping me from getting Schumi for Valencia is cost. I've already dropped Barrichello and Kubica for Rosberg and Sutil. Chances are, if I'm to afford Schumacher, I'll have to drop Rosberg and Sutil. Or drop Button.

    This is going to be a very tricky decision to make - one I will probably leave to the last minute.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 07:33

    I have problems with him, I don’t think he should be returning. But as always with formula one, I am interested to see what happens next in this ridiculous soap opera we call a sport

    I prefer this kind of drama over the FIA-FOTA mess we had earlier in the year.

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 07:34

    I dropped BAr and TRU and bought ROS and KOV (can't afford HAM ...)

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 07:34

    I prefer this kind of drama over the FIA-FOTA mess we had earlier in the year.

    *had*? you mean *have* right?

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 07:34

    I dropped BAr and TRU and bought ROS and KOV (can't afford HAM ...)

    and I realized I am neck to neck with some else from Hong Kong :-)

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 07:35

    I have problems with him, I don't think he should be returning. But as always with formula one, I am interested to see what happens next in this ridiculous soap opera we call a sport :)

    You know defending F1 used to be about environmental damage/large costs but I think you're right - it is a bit like a soap opera now. and that's not a good thing.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 07:38

    *had*? you mean *have* right?

    it's still an issue, but with the rumor that all parties bar BMW and Renault have signed (both for obvious reasons), i don't think it's a mess anymore.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 07:40

    You know defending F1 used to be about environmental damage/large costs but I think you’re right – it is a bit like a soap opera now. and that’s not a good thing.

    it's been a soap opera for ages now - it rarely takes anything away from my enjoyment. :)

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 07:40

    it's still an issue, but with the rumor that all parties bar BMW and Renault have signed (both for obvious reasons), i don't think it's a mess anymore.

    fair enough but I'm worried about rumours in F1. sometimes they come true ;)

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 07:41

    it's still an issue, but with the rumor that all parties bar BMW and Renault have signed (both for obvious reasons), i don't think it's a mess anymore.

    rumours yesterday were that all parties except Toyota (and BMW) signed. and Howett was in Japan talking with the board denying quit rumours in the process

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 08:09

    Here's an interesting tweet yesterday from BritsOnPole:

    Consider one cat put very firmly back among the pigeons. Schumi with a KERS button. This may not be pretty.

    Oh.my...

  • Rob Sinfield30/07/2009 at 08:16

    Kemblewatch....

    Despite the airfield preparing for the Steam and Vintage Show - Force India are testing here today.

    Cheers,

    Rob

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 08:23

    Kemblewatch....

    but how they can test at the moment? if testing is banned. am i missing an exception?

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 08:25

    but how they can test at the moment? if testing is banned. am i missing an exception?

    straight line testing is allowed (with some limit). there however should be 2 weeks shut down now , not sure how exactly that works with both Renault and Force testing this week ...

  • Rob Sinfield30/07/2009 at 08:30

    They can take their 2 weeks anytime in the 4 week gap between the GP's...

    Rob

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 08:32

    thanks for the reasons why the teams can test. last time kemble was is use, we were watching on these webcams but we never saw anything (apart from a tractor and one plane take off i think) so they're probably pointing the wrong way.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 08:34

    They can take their 2 weeks anytime in the 4 week gap between the GP’s…

    Rob

    Even if the factories are closed?

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 08:42

    Hey guys, check drop.io for 3 pics I've taken this morning on the iPhone that you might be interested in.

  • Rob Sinfield30/07/2009 at 08:45

    Same applies I think

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 08:46

    Hey guys, check drop.io for 3 pics I've taken this morning on the iPhone that you might be interested in.

    The deflector thingy will work but I'm worried about the angle of it reflecting too much light, and therefore decreasing visibility. but certainly worth looking at as an option to improve safety

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 08:47

    The deflector thingy will work but I'm worried about the angle of it reflecting too much light, and therefore decreasing visibility. but certainly worth looking at as an option to improve safety

    Couldn't they make the visors anti-glare?

  • Flibster30/07/2009 at 08:50

    Point Break update:

    Keanu Reeves pointing a gun, looks into Patrick Swayze's eye... points the gun to the skies, fires off the entire clip while screaming, "NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

    ROLF

    One of the gayest moments of any film of all time! :D

    finally saw Hot Fuzz last week. worth the wait ;)

    It wasn't bad, but not as good as Shaun of the Dead imho.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 08:51

    Hey guys, check drop.io for 3 pics I've taken this morning on the iPhone that you might be interested in.

    What if the engine or something caught fire and they couldn't get out of the bubble in time?

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 08:53

    the closed cockpit solution may be more dangerous than current cockpit

    the shield may not help much if the stray wheel or loos spring arrives from a freak angle as happened in past 2 weeks ..

  • Flibster30/07/2009 at 08:57

    Oh dear... You really can patent anything these days.

    Patent for Podcasting

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 09:00

    http://artgerm.deviantart.com/art/Singapore-F1-2009-129835456

    some promo pics for Singapore GP

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:00

    It wasn't bad, but not as good as Shaun of the Dead imho.

    still waiting for an italian/austrian/german/swiss network to show that one ;)

  • Ben Gribbin30/07/2009 at 09:01

    it would seem F1 needs to change. I hope Harry Vatyinen sorts all this nonsense out...

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:02

    Couldn't they make the visors anti-glare?

    Yeah, but it would never be perfect (but pretty good) so I'm still worried about decreasing visibility on a fast car.

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 09:02

    Why is there a picture in the drop with my name on it and people wearing tennis courts on their head? :D

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:08

    Why is there a picture in the drop with my name on it and people wearing tennis courts on their head? :D

    seems perfectly logical to me ;)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 09:08

    From Neil Cole, who apparently is involved with WRC on Dave:

    #ford confirmed for next 2 years in #wrc also Prodrive will announce in sept new manufacturer for 2011 full season

    Looks like Prodrive's given up on F1, then. Does Aston Martin make rally cars? ;)

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:09

    Why is there a picture in the drop with my name on it and people wearing tennis courts on their head? :D

    drop.io is down at the moment so don't get scared if you're trying to get on.

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 09:10

    drop.io is down at the moment so don't get scared if you're trying to get on.

    it loads fine for me?

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 09:10

    drop.io is down at the moment so don't get scared if you're trying to get on.

    Umm, not for me...

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 09:10

    Looks like Prodrive's given up on F1, then. Does Aston Martin make rally cars? ;)

    Yup!

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:11

    Umm, not for me...

    hmm. all my drop.io sites are down. just little old me.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:12

    hmm. all my drop.io sites are down. just little old me.

    they're okay now. odd.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 09:15

    Yup!

    Cool! That's settled, then. :D

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 09:17

    so, according to the results of this poll, the best driver of the year hasn't even driven the car. Go Australian voters.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 09:17

    Cool! That's settled, then. :D

    http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/203323/aston_martin_rally_gt.html ;)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 09:20

    so, according to the results of this poll, the best driver of the year hasn’t even driven the car. Go Australian voters.

    Silliest poll I've ever seen. Why? There's no Heikki! :D

    But seriously, they're only doing that for attention, aren't they?

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 09:22

    But seriously, they're only doing that for attention, aren't they?

    No doubt. I bet the ratings for the next race are pretty epic. Stupid large Italian population ;)

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:23

    But seriously, they're only doing that for attention, aren't they?

    yep. need a new poll every day i think.and you can't have an f1 story without webber ;) i voted for Vettel but it's always hard to tell this unless they've all got the same car...blah blah...

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:24

    No doubt. I bet the ratings for the next race are pretty epic. Stupid large Italian population ;)

    you mean stupidly large population of italians or large population of stupid italians?

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 09:26

    you mean stupidly large population of italians or large population of stupid italians?

    a little from column A, a little from column B? It's a shame that even Webber winning will probably pale in comparison to the ratings Ten will get now.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 09:27

    a little from column A, a little from column B? It's a shame that even Webber winning will probably pale in comparison to the ratings Ten will get now.

    good answer ;) i think this will bring some people back to F1 and if they stay depends on Channel 10 in australia, and F1 as a whole.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 09:29

    Morning all

    #ford confirmed for next 2 years in #wrc also Prodrive will announce in sept new manufacturer for 2011 full season

    It's Subaru and the comeback was planned before they pulled out

    Looks like Prodrive's given up on F1, then. Does Aston Martin make rally cars? ;)

    Prodrive run multiple programs. They always planned to rally and do F1.

    This is a non-story

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 09:29

    a little from column A, a little from column B? It’s a shame that even Webber winning will probably pale in comparison to the ratings Ten will get now.

    Combine both, and maybe you'll get quali and race at last.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 09:29

    good answer ;) i think this will bring some people back to F1 and if they stay depends on Channel 10 in australia, and F1 as a whole.

    They will come back to the most boring circuit in F1 and run away again at top speed

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 09:30

    good answer ;) i think this will bring some people back to F1 and if they stay depends on Channel 10 in australia, and F1 as a whole.

    my brother said 'any interest I may have had in F1 this year has now well and truly disappeared'

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 09:36

    It’s Subaru and the comeback was planned before they pulled out

    Not Aston Martin, then?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 09:39

    The cricket is delayed... I wonder who is to blame...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 09:41

    The cricket is delayed… I wonder who is to blame…

    #blamesteven or #blameschumacher ?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 09:44

    Not Aston Martin, then?

    How can Aston Martin possibly make a car that comes anywhere near complying to current rallying regulations? It would not only be impossible it would mean having an Aston with a 2 litre engine. There is more chance of Alonso being in the Ferrari in Valencia than Aston Martin rallying.

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 09:46

    The cricket is delayed… I wonder who is to blame…

    #blamesteven or #blameschumacher ?

    #blamestemacher?

  • Keith the marshal30/07/2009 at 09:46

    Is it still true?? Dam I thought I was dreaming

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 09:47

    The cricket is delayed… I wonder who is to blame…

    #williweberfacts - cricket 345% sure on time

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 09:50

    Is it still true?? Dam I thought I was dreaming

    I went to bed hoping to wake up and find I had had a nightmare. I am awake but the nightmare is still there. This gap to Valencia is really going to drag now.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 09:51

    How can Aston Martin possibly make a car that comes anywhere near complying to current rallying regulations? It would not only be impossible it would mean having an Aston with a 2 litre engine. There is more chance of Alonso being in the Ferrari in Valencia than Aston Martin rallying.

    Wouldnt they need a 2.0 engine for F1 though?

    They are also making some silly Toyota IQ based car...

  • Dank30/07/2009 at 09:54

    Watson reckons Schumacher could be offered Ferrari seat for 2010.

    Quite on what basis, I don't really know...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 09:58

    Quite on what basis, I don’t really know…

    That's a random quote. Wouldn't make anything out of it.

    Heck, it's more likely he'd end up at Brawn rather than Ferrari.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 10:00

    I return with a laptop after three days, it feels all different. I feel much better now, still on the tablets.

    I'm behind on a lot of things now though.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 10:00

    Wouldnt they need a 2.0 engine for F1 though?

    They would need a 2.4 litre engine for F1 but that is a different proposition from putting a small engine in something that looks like one of their road cars. You can't have something that looks like an Aston Martin roadcar with a whiny little engine in it. You also can't have Aston Martin' competing against a Ford Focus and a baby Pug. Can you imagine the publicity they would get? Loeb wins followed by a couple of drivers most people have never heard of and Aston Martin came in 4th. That would do nothing for their brand image.

    Subaru announced when they pulled out that they would be back for 2010 or 2011. This is very old news.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 10:00

    Heck, it's more likely he'd end up at Brawn rather than Ferrari.

    Considering most of his wins were 40% Ross Brawn, 40% Cheating and 20% talent, I wonder how he will go? :P

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:02

    From Andrew Benson:

    Although it has not been officially confirmed, and although Alonso (sort of) denies it, it is an open secret in F1 that the Spaniard will be driving one of the Ferraris next season. The only question is who will be in the other car - a tricky dilemma given that both Raikkonen and Massa are under contract until the end of 2010.

    Are they allowed to say that if they're not sure about it?

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 10:02

    How can Aston Martin possibly make a car that comes anywhere near complying to current rallying regulations? It would not only be impossible it would mean having an Aston with a 2 litre engine. There is more chance of Alonso being in the Ferrari in Valencia than Aston Martin rallying.

    You clearly havent seen the DB9 rally car then?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 10:02

    Watson reckons Schumacher could be offered Ferrari seat for 2010.

    Quite on what basis, I don't really know...

    Ferrari has two drivers contracted for next year but I have a feeling he won't come back and do a few races. I have a feeeling he wil be in Barrichello's seat next season if Brawn can raise a budget.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 10:03

    Morning all

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 10:03

    I return with a laptop after three days, it feels all different. I feel much better now, still on the tablets.

    So long as you are feeling healthier that is all that matters

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 10:04

    Although it has not been officially confirmed, and although Alonso (sort of) denies it, it is an open secret in F1 that the Spaniard will be driving one of the Ferraris next season. The only question is who will be in the other car - a tricky dilemma given that both Raikkonen and Massa are under contract until the end of 2010.

    Looks like Ferrari is going to have to buy a couple of teams over the winter to accomodate all its drivers.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:04

    Considering most of his wins were 40% Ross Brawn, 40% Cheating and 20% talent, I wonder how he will go?

    Better than we expect, I think. I'm guessing he'll be on the podium - 3rd?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 10:05

    You clearly havent seen the DB9 rally car then?

    I have seen the pictures but I don't ever see it rallying

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:05

    Looks like Ferrari is going to have to buy a couple of teams over the winter to accomodate all its drivers.

    Heheh. There's one up for sale at Hinwil. ;)

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 10:06

    G'morning all.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 10:06

    Better than we expect, I think. I'm guessing he'll be on the podium - 3rd?

    No way... Force india will have their revenge...7 straight DNF's

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:06

    Ferrari has two drivers contracted for next year but I have a feeling he won’t come back and do a few races. I have a feeling he wil be in Barrichello’s seat next season if Brawn can raise a budget.

    Hmmm. Interesting. We shall see.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:07

    random thought given how Kimi runs Sutil off the track "all the time". how popular do you think he'd be if Sutil ran the other ferrari off the track ;)

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 10:07

    No way... Force india will have their revenge...7 straight DNF's

    Revenge? What did he do to them?

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 10:08

    random thought given how Kimi runs Sutil off the track "all the time". how popular do you think he'd be if Sutil ran the other ferrari off the track ;)

    depends who you're asking :P

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 10:08

    Morning Lukeh and RG...

    I have a cold... I blame RG

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 10:09

    I have a cold... I blame RG

    #blamerg ?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 10:09

    Revenge? What did he do to them?

    Not him, but ferrari...

    Mclaren can help finance the effort...

  • RG30/07/2009 at 10:10

    I have a cold... I blame RG

    *moves eyes shiftly*

    *runs*

    *collapses*

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 10:11

    I have a cold... I blame RG

    I should also add that i am dying...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 10:12

    random thought given how Kimi runs Sutil off the track "all the time". how popular do you think he'd be if Sutil ran the other ferrari off the track ;)

    He would have one more fan

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:13

    I should also add that i am dying...

    we all are, although if that cola drink is the fountain of youth, some of us might be saved :)

  • Sean Golding30/07/2009 at 10:15

    we all are, although if that cola drink is the fountain of youth, some of us might be saved :)

    Scott, next time anyone tells me I drink too much cola, I'm saying that you said it was alright.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:19

    Scott, next time anyone tells me I drink too much cola, I'm saying that you said it was alright.

    You can tell them what you want ;) I think you might have missed the IF part of my statement. However, this study would appear to show that in one way, RBC can be good.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:21

    You can tell them what you want ;) I think you might have missed the IF part of my statement. However, this study would appear to show that in one way, RBC can be good.

    just say this statement though "Several studies suggest that energy drinks may serve as a gateway to other forms of drug dependence." (Link)

  • Flibster30/07/2009 at 10:22

    just say this statement though "Several studies suggest that energy drinks may serve as a gateway to other forms of drug dependence." (Link)

    Rubbish *goes for 5th espresso...*

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 10:23

    Rubbish *goes for 5th espresso...*

    Why do they make them so small?

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:23

    Rubbish *goes for 5th espresso...*

    I was writing all that while staring at the freshly finished can of standard cola on my desk

  • Flibster30/07/2009 at 10:23

    Why do they make them so small?

    Because it wouldn't be espresso if it was large...

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:24

    Why do they make them so small?

    it's odd to watch italians drink coffee - it's like an australian drinks a shot of alcohol. fast.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 10:24

    Why do they make them so small?

    That is to do with he express part of espresso. You can drink it in a second.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:26

    Hmmm.. I'm bored of coke... I'll try heroin instead.

    i truly wouldn't.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:31

    in sidepodspace land, the shuttle is scheduled to land on friday afternoon (european time).

    and in movie news, i saw the NZ movie "Black Sheep" last night. anyone seen it? Funny. odd.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 10:31

    That is to do with he express part of espresso. You can drink it in a second.

    You could drink 3 of them in a second as well though...

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 10:34

    Looks like Ferrari is going to have to buy a couple of teams over the winter to accomodate all its drivers.

    ... and then there is the FOTA idea floated yesterday about teams running 3 cars ...

  • Flibster30/07/2009 at 10:35

    and in movie news, i saw the NZ movie "Black Sheep" last night. anyone seen it? Funny. odd.

    Good old cheap horror. :D

    Rubber sheeps and gore. :D

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 10:35

    ... and then there is the FOTA idea floated yesterday about teams running 3 cars ...

    I'd like the 3rd car to be filled with a rookie driver

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 10:35

    in sidepodspace land, the shuttle is scheduled to land on friday afternoon (european time).

    They undocked a day early from the ISS to make way for a Russian Progress and have been floating around doing very little for two days.

    The landing is scheduled for 10:48am Eastern / 15:48 pm UK. NASA TV coerage will start a few hours before the landing. There is a de-orbit burn around an hour before the landing and they have to close the payload bay doors before that so we should get plenty of notice of the landing.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 10:36

    I'd like the 3rd car to be filled with a rookie driver

    3rd cars to do the race going around the opposite way to all the other cars?

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 10:36

    and in movie news, i saw the NZ movie "Black Sheep" last night. anyone seen it? Funny. odd.

    I heart that film. Old Shortland Street stars galore, just like any other NZ production :D

  • Alianora La Canta30/07/2009 at 10:37

    Why is it that people in general on the F1 forums seem to excited about Schumi coming back… but not here? I’m not criticizing or anything, but I am wondering… {Comment #148}

    It's the old adage, "Birds of a feather flock together". In any one place, most people will think in similar ways and therefore are liable to form the same opinion when something happens.

    Of the fora I read, one has nearly had a flame war between the two factions of pro- and anti-Schumacher (everyone on there appears to have an opinion!), one was somewhat more ambivalent about the wisdom of the idea, one was really happy about it, one was disappointed because the people there wanted a specific "someone else" to do the role instead and one stopped working altogether (though I'm not sure Michael had much to do with that...)

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 10:39

    I'd like the 3rd car to be filled with a rookie driver

    Massa Raikkonen and Ferrari rookie Senor Alonso :-)

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:41

    ..one was disappointed because the people there wanted a specific "someone else" to do the role instead and one stopped working altogether (though I'm not sure Michael had much to do with that...)

    I'm guessing from the URL of the website, who they were after...

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:42

    It's a cheap horror film. I'll find out about it. ;)

    I Fair enough - i know your type :) I think they did pretty well to make that movie. was impressed.

  • Alianora La Canta30/07/2009 at 10:44

    Price is based on demand rather than actual ability, so I suspect he’ll start with a high price. {Comment #188}

    That could be awkward. LCM Aléman is supposed to have all the German drivers, but there's only $5.3m left to get another driver.

    Unless Michael changes his nationality in the next three weeks, I can see LCM Aléman being an incomplete team in Valencia...

  • Alianora La Canta30/07/2009 at 10:46

    Note: Michael Schumacher is now in Fantasy Sports, at a price of $9m. He's therefore going to be out of LCM Aléman unless he suddenly becomes much cheaper...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:47

    Unless Michael changes his nationality in the next three weeks, I can see LCM Aléman being an incomplete team in Valencia…

    Drop Nico - he's as much Finnish as he is German (even if Amy disagrees with that). ;)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:47

    *deleted duplicate comment*

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:48

    Oops - double post. Am in ye olde comments anyway, so have marked it as a duplicate for deletion.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:50

    A lot of cheap films are much better than the big budget blockbusters, as they only have to please themselves rather than the shareholders.

    i love cheap films - to a point! Clerks passes easily :) Don't think I've seen Evil Dead, but I used to watch Peter Jackson films long enough to be surprised when he scored the LOTR gigs.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:50

    Note: Michael Schumacher is now in Fantasy Sports, at a price of $9m. He’s therefore going to be out of LCM Aléman unless he suddenly becomes much cheaper…

    Dropped Rosberg for M. Schumacher. Hero-or-zero time. :D

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 10:50

    Drop Nico - he's as much Finnish as he is German (even if Amy disagrees with that). ;)

    NEVAHHHHH

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 10:51

    Note: Michael Schumacher is now in Fantasy Sports, at a price of $9m. He’s therefore going to be out of LCM Aléman unless he suddenly becomes much cheaper…

    He didnt get swapped with Massa? boo

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:52

    NEVAHHHHH

    :D

    Going back to Schumi, I'd buy him now - at the very least, he will make me a lot of money by the time Valencia is done. Surely the price will leap once it's unfrozen and it looks at the demand?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:53

    He didnt get swapped with Massa? boo

    The website says:

    If you have Felipe in your team, you will need to transfer him out as you will not automatically score points for Schumacher.

  • Flibster30/07/2009 at 10:53

    i love cheap films - to a point! Clerks passes easily :) Don't think I've seen Evil Dead, but I used to watch Peter Jackson films long enough to be surprised when he scored the LOTR gigs.

    Evil Dead is a classic - Evil Dead 2 is kind of a remake, but is funnier. Sam Raimi developed his own form of horror in that one. Calls is Splatstick. ;)

    LOTR - dreadful... Kevin Smith summed it up just right - it's 3 films about people walking. Even the trees walk! And then there's the 27 endings on the end of it!

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 10:54

    If you have Felipe in your team, you will need to transfer him out as you will not automatically score points for Schumacher.

    Schumachers more expensive though, its not helpful

  • F1Wolf30/07/2009 at 10:55

    If you have Felipe in your team, you will need to transfer him out as you will not automatically score points for Schumacher.

    I have Kimi, to drop or not to drop, that is the question ...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:56

    Schumachers more expensive though, its not helpful

    Well, they did freeze Schumi's price until the cut-off.

    Nico is a slightly cheaper replacement - will probably get you a good result, too.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 10:57

    I have Kimi, to drop or not to drop, that is the question …

    Depends on how you think he'd react to a Schumi comeback. But I think his price is likelier to go down rather than up.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 10:57

    LOTR - dreadful... Kevin Smith summed it up just right - it's 3 films about people walking. Even the trees walk! And then there's the 27 endings on the end of it!

    great summary. i was on a plane going a long way and kept flicking over to that channel to see if anything was happening in the film. nope. just a couple of guys walking around. took me years to even consider watching the movie proper - think i sat through half of one of them.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 10:59

    Depends on how you think he'd react to a Schumi comeback. But I think his price is likelier to go down rather than up.

    I realised I have Piquet in my team, I need to readjust a bit.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:01

    I realised I have Piquet in my team, I need to readjust a bit.

    And, er, you know that moment when you may start to get a bit too attachted to your team? That appears to be happening now

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 11:02

    I realised I have Piquet in my team, I need to readjust a bit.

    readjust man. why was he there?

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:03

    And, er, you know that moment when you may start to get a bit too attachted to your team? That appears to be happening now

    Well at least someone seems to be attached to having Piquet in their team ;)

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:05

    readjust man. why was he there?

    He was in my 'Stick with em' team now. The tactic I used for the whole of last season, when I joined.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 11:11

    He was in my 'Stick with em' team now. The tactic I used for the whole of last season, when I joined.

    Fair enough (sort of!). I never bothered with FR beyond the first race.

  • me30/07/2009 at 11:24

    i'm not here.

    however, i have moderated flbster permanently seeing as he clearly cannot be trusted to his own devices.

    we've also received the following message from GMM's lawyer:

    [REDACTED BY REQUEST]

    so umm, yeah.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:25

    so umm, yeah.

    Hi mr c. Hope your doing alright. :)

    Oo-er at GMM warning. Better tone it down to be safe...

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:29

    so umm, yeah.

    ooo-er indeed.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:30

    we've also received the following message from GMM's lawyer:

    And I thought media types were not sensitive.

    It's a bit rich that GMM are complaining about other people spreading falsehoods when Mr Maitland told us only 20% of his stories were factual but it was worth putting the others out anyway.

    Also interesting that his lawyer cannot spell principal correctly.

    Mr. Maitland who was prepared to engage in discussion is now going to take action. How pathetic can you be?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:31

    Hey Mr C (here or not)

    Oo-er at GMM warning. Better tone it down to be safe…

    Remember that email from a concerned listener? Looks like said listener had a point.

    If they go down that path, you're innocent until proven guilty. But they're not worth it, I think. Perhaps it's better if we just make them an unmentionable to save everyone the hassle?

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:31

    If they go down that path, you're innocent until proven guilty. But they're not worth it, I think. Perhaps it's better if we just make them an unmentionable to save everyone the hassle?

    That sounds like a good idea.

  • Dank30/07/2009 at 11:31

    Here's a bit of gossip for you all...

    Could it be possible that Piquet will remain in F1 for 2010, albeit under his own-run team? Word has it in Brazil that he's perhaps joining up with Supernova.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:31

    If they go down that path, you're innocent until proven guilty. But they're not worth it, I think. Perhaps it's better if we just make them an unmentionable to save everyone the hassle?

    sounds like a plan

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 11:32

    How pathetic can you be?

    I'm using one of those 10 foot poles to not touch this topic.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:32

    If they go down that path, you're innocent until proven guilty. But they're not worth it, I think. Perhaps it's better if we just make them an unmentionable to save everyone the hassle?

    I thought they already were?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:33

    Mr. Maitland who was prepared to engage in discussion is now going to take action. How pathetic can you be?

    Mr C said it looks like it was a publicity stunt. Now, it looks like it was a trap. Good thing they didn't take the bait, then.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 11:33

    sounds like a plan

    yep let's move on.

    Piquet in 2010 F1? interesting Dank. got any sources? (make your own jokes folks)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:33

    Could it be possible that Piquet will remain in F1 for 2010, albeit under his own-run team? Word has it in Brazil that he's perhaps joining up with Supernova.

    Supernova don't have an entry or is there something I am missing.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:33

    Piquet in 2010 F1? interesting Dank. got any sources? (make your own jokes folks)

    yay, I can keep him in my Fantasy Racers team forever.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:34

    Also, should giggles-mm be put on the back burner for a bit

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:34

    Supernova don't have an entry or is there something I am missing.

    Can they buy out BMW?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:34

    I thought they already were?

    There have been some discussions about them in the past. I guess we just avoid those altogether.

    RG, update the wiki? Wiki from the office is slooooow.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:34

    Supernova don't have an entry or is there something I am missing.

    BMW are pulling out? Entry bought maybe

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:35

    Supernova don’t have an entry or is there something I am missing.

    That's what I was thinking.

    Also, should giggles-mm be put on the back burner for a bit

    Yup. Let's let things settle down for the meantime.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:35

    RG, update the wiki? Wiki from the office is slooooow.

    Done and done.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:36

    BMW are pulling out? Entry bought maybe

    I don't think BMW will give up their slot unless no one is interested in taking over the team for a Euro.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:36

    Can they buy out BMW?

    The team is for sale but I would have thought that Peter Sauber would have first option as he still owns 20% of it.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:37

    Done and done.

    Thanks. :)

    Let's move on.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:38

    Yup. Let's let things settle down for the meantime.

    I really don't want to argue against this but there is nothing his lawyer can do assuming he is even a lawyer. What kind of lawyer spells company principal principle?

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 11:38

    Let's move on.

    what should i have for lunch?

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:38

    The team is for sale but I would have thought that Peter Sauber would have first option as he still owns 20% of it.

    Return to Sauber?

    :)

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:39

    Return to Sauber?

    That would be awesome.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:40

    I really don't want to argue against this but there is nothing his lawyer can do assuming he is even a lawyer. What kind of lawyer spells company principal principle?

    It dosent matter, it may be rubbish, but lets not tempt anything.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:40

    what should i have for lunch?

    That nice bread they have in italy that you have with the garlic-y dip thing. It's my FAVOURITE thing.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:41

    what should i have for lunch?

    Are there Greggs in italy? :P

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:41

    Return to Sauber?

    That would be my guess. I am sure BMW would happily give him the team to save them the cost of closing it down. The only problem is going to be the engine department.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:41

    Are there Greggs in italy? :P

    Guess what the best parents in the world just brought in for me?

    A sausage roll and a pizza baguette.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 11:41

    Are there Greggs in italy? :P

    you mean the bakery? ah. no. we have our own here.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 11:42

    Guess what the best parents in the world just brought in for me?

    A sausage roll and a pizza baguette.

    nice. but what did they get me? :)

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:42

    That would be my guess. I am sure BMW would happily give him the team to save them the cost of closing it down. The only problem is going to be the engine department.

    Hold on while I may explode.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:42

    A sausage roll and a pizza baguette.

    Best. present. to. make. you. feel. better. ever.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:43

    A sausage roll and a pizza baguette.

    see, it may be simple, but thats just awesome food

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:43

    nice. but what did they get me? :)

    Em, they say hello.

  • Alianora La Canta30/07/2009 at 11:43

    Despite the airfield preparing for the Steam and Vintage Show – Force India are testing here today. {Comment #199}

    Um... ...that could disrupt preparations a bit!

    Am I right in thinking this is the fourth (and therefore last budgeted) straight-line test Force India have done this year?

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 11:44

    Em, they say hello.

    charming :) okay. i'm off for food. later folks

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:44

    It dosent matter, it may be rubbish, but lets not tempt anything.

    I totally get the logic of that but I hate backing down from someone like that because he throws lawyer's letters around. Still at least we know he reads all our comments. I wonder if he liked the hashtags and filter that made his job easier. Now he is going to have to go back to reading all the comments to see if anyone is saying anything about him.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:44

    charming :) okay. i'm off for food. later folks

    ciao

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:44

    I really liked the Sauber Petronas livery with the blue and turquoise. Always easy on the eyes and just nice cars to look at I thought.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 11:45

    See ya later mr Scott in Italy

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:46

    Am I right in thinking this is the fourth (and therefore last budgeted) straight-line test Force India have done this year?

    I would think it was unlikely that anyone other than you would know that

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:47

    I really don’t want to argue against this but there is nothing his lawyer can do assuming he is even a lawyer. What kind of lawyer spells company principal principle?

    That's true. :D

    Still, he's not worth that kind of attention. The only thing worse than saying you hate someone is ignoring that someone.

  • Alianora La Canta30/07/2009 at 11:48

    but how they can test at the moment? if testing is banned. am i missing an exception? {Comment #200}

    Work is banned. I was under the impression Force India's holiday started next week (though I've heard at least one contradictory statement from a news outlet). Presumably Renault will start its holiday some point before next Thursday.

    As long as all teams take a fortnight completely off (apart from marketing), they don't care which two weeks are "holiday" and which two are "work".

  • me30/07/2009 at 11:48

    I wonder if he liked the hashtags and filter that made his job easier. Now he is going to have to go back to reading all the comments to see if anyone is saying anything about him.

    i think you're probably right on that front.

    in terms of fighting, we have nothing to lose aside from a wine stained macbook. we literally don't own anything. if i was at all motivated i'd fight back, but right now sleep is soo much more tempting.

    flibster asked what he's done wrong. clearly since we started we've said sidepodcast is a family friendly show. discussion either horror films or drugs doesn't exactly fit that criteria and i don't have the energy to keep on explaining this.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 11:48

    Still, he's not worth that kind of attention. The only thing worse than saying you hate someone is ignoring that someone.

    Oh goodness, I haven't kept up now I don't know what's going on.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 11:49

    I have gone though the 7 stages of suprise...

    1. Denial/Disbelief

    2. Anger/Dispair

    3. Interested to see what actually happens

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:49

    Now he is going to have to go back to reading all the comments to see if anyone is saying anything about him.

    True, true.

    I really liked the Sauber Petronas livery with the blue and turquoise. Always easy on the eyes and just nice cars to look at I thought.

    I wasn't such a fan of Sauber's turquoise, but it was certainly unique.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:50

    Oh goodness, I haven't kept up now I don't know what's going on.

    It's just a certain media news network within motorsport getting silly and almost threatening legal threats, so it's best to just have them as an unmentionable :)

  • me30/07/2009 at 11:50

    if anyone is up for fight though... twitter does hash tags just as well. and finding who's responsible would take a considerable amount more effort.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 11:51

    It's just a certain media news network within motorsport getting silly and almost threatening legal threats, so it's best to just have them as an unmentionable :)

    OK. Like energy drinks then.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:51

    I have gone though the 7 stages of surprise…

    1. Denial/Disbelief

    2. Anger/Dispair

    3. Interested to see what actually happens

    Isn't negotiating/compromising what comes after that? :D

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 11:52

    OK. Like energy drinks then.

    exactly

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 11:52

    Isn't negotiating/compromising what comes after that? :D

    Thats grief... I cant grieve for F1 quite yet. As long as its on tv...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:52

    in terms of fighting, we have nothing to lose aside from a wine stained macbook. we literally don't own anything. if i was at all motivated i'd fight back, but right now sleep is soo much more tempting.

    Have your break and we can start the fightback when you are back to your normal self. I am sure given a few days rest the world will seem like it is a better place.

    Remember it is baby panda Thursday so you could let Christine have her panda now that you have so much time on your hands.

  • Alianora La Canta30/07/2009 at 11:53

    so, according to the results of this poll, the best driver of the year hasn’t even driven the car. {Comment #227}

    How many of these people hadn't watched a race since the end of 2006 and thought Michael had been in F1 somewhere all along?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:53

    if anyone is up for fight though… twitter does hash tags just as well. and finding who’s responsible would take a considerable amount more effort.

    true. although i did read something in the news about someone suing Twitter and a tweeter who criticized them. Twitter duly sued them back.

    but i digress.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 11:54

    Also, should giggles-mm be put on the back burner for a bit

    Morning all,

    Satire is not ridicule and is exempt from any defamtion, right?

  • me30/07/2009 at 11:54

    true. although i did read something in the news about someone suing Twitter and a tweeter who criticized them. Twitter duly sued them back.

    the person gave their name, and they were the accused customer. that person was stupid.

  • me30/07/2009 at 11:54

    Satire is not ridicule and is exempt from any defamtion, right?

    twitter.com

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 11:55

    what should i have for lunch?

    Are there Greggs in italy? :P

    You don't need Greggs when you have the best fresh bread, pizzas, paninis and focaccia breads in the world!

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 11:55

    The (anonymous) internet can be such an annoying place. I've seen numerous forums disturbed by trolls. I hope Mr and Mrs C get a good break and can return with something.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 11:56

    in terms of fighting, we have nothing to lose aside from a wine stained macbook. we literally don't own anything. if i was at all motivated i'd fight back, but right now sleep is soo much more tempting.

    Sleep sounds like a good idea. The timing couldn't really have been worse....

    Try to forget all this if you can... You guys really deserve a break...

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:57

    Going back to Stevens comment about an engine supplier, what are the chances Mr Sauber can talk to Ferrari considering them supplying engines for most of Sauber's time in f1 before the BMW buyout?

    I ca't remember what the rules and limiations are for the amount of engines from a single supplier are mind you... is it 3 teams with engines from the same manufacturer? So Ferari, Toro Rosso and Sauber if he bought the team out...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 11:58

    Satire is not ridicule and is exempt from any defamtion, right?

    twitter.com

    Sorry I don't follow?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 11:58

    Oh goodness, I haven't kept up now I don't know what's going on.

    Simple. We had a go at GMM for putting out inaccurate news stories. Mr GMM turned up and said 20% of his stories were accurate. We gave him a hard time so he ran away again. He came back recently to say how he was prepared to debate his case but after one comment he disappeared again because it was pointed out the last time he was here he said 20% of his content was good.

    Since then Giggles Made-up Media and various other bits of fun have upset the poor sensitive soul so now he has had his lawyer who cannot spell send a letter in complaining about people saying bad things about him. So much for being prepared to debate the subject.

    Who ever heard of a lawyer that can't spell. It seems somehow so appropriate. If you read this Andrew let me know and I will send you my address and you can have your lawyer contact me directly or I could recommend a lawyer who can write a simple letter without spelling mistakes.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 11:58

    Sorry I don't follow?

    I assumed he means take it to twitter :P

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 11:58

    Sorry I don't follow?

    I think he is hinting that if you are going to do it, elsewhere may be better

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 11:59

    Sleep sounds like a good idea. The timing couldn’t really have been worse….

    I guess it's small consolation, but at least they all came at the same time. It'll be easier to forget about all of them at the same time during the break.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 12:00

    Since then Giggles Made-up Media and various other bits of fun have upset the poor sensitive soul so now he has had his lawyer who cannot spell send a letter in complaining about people saying bad things about him. So much for being prepared to debate the subject.

    Somebody needs a hug......or something else.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 12:01

    if anyone is up for fight though... twitter does hash tags just as well. and finding who's responsible would take a considerable amount more effort.

    I like your thinking. Sometimes I am psychic. I just had a flash of #gigglesmadeupmedia as trending topic on twitter. Can anyone else see it?

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 12:02

    Lukeh, just been listening to the clip of "Uprising"

    I think Mr Tennant needs to be in the video ;)

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 12:02

    I think Mr Tennant needs to be in the video ;)

    Already done it myself techincally :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 12:03

    Satire is not ridicule and is exempt from any defamtion, right?

    Yes but does sending a dodgy mis-spelt lawyer's letter count as satire?

  • Alianora La Canta30/07/2009 at 12:03

    No doubt. I bet the ratings for the next race are pretty epic.

    They will be - until about 30 laps in when everyone has got bored of the procession and resolved not to tune in again until F1 goes somewhere interesting. Luckily for the TV figures, that would be the race afterwards (which is at Spa).

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 12:05

    Already done it myself techincally :)

    To explain, there was this clip of the band recording clicking fingers in a toilet a few months ago. Yeah, don't ask.

    But I realised this possible coincedence the other night. And of course, the photoshop on the video ;)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 12:05

    I like your thinking. Sometimes I am psychic. I just had a flash of #gigglesmadeupmedia as trending topic on twitter. Can anyone else see it?

    not yet. ;)

  • me30/07/2009 at 12:06

    I like your thinking. Sometimes I am psychic. I just had a flash of #gigglesmadeupmedia as trending topic on twitter. Can anyone else see it?

    that would be awesome!

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 12:06

    To explain, there was this clip of the band recording clicking fingers in a toilet a few months ago. Yeah, don't ask.

    ummm...

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 12:07

    But I realised this possible coincedence the other night. And of course, the photoshop on the video ;)

    ahhhh, :D

    it all makes sense

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 12:07

    I like your thinking. Sometimes I am psychic. I just had a flash of #gigglesmadeupmedia as trending topic on twitter. Can anyone else see it?

    How do you see trendinhg topics?

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 12:07

    ummm...

    They were recoding for the album. They do this kind of stuff, like recording jumping in a pool, marching about in a enclosed space, and a trouser zipper for previous albums. It's.... unique. :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 12:13

    I like your thinking. Sometimes I am psychic. I just had a flash of #gigglesmadeupmedia as trending topic on twitter. Can anyone else see it?

    How do you see trendinhg topics?

    Search for them on the front page or your homepage.

    If you use a Twitter client like TweetDeck you just search for the word...

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 12:14

    Search for them on the front page or your homepage.

    Thanks, there it is.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 12:16

    Whoah! Just blew my nose and nearly fainted!

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 12:17

    Whoah! Just blew my nose and nearly fainted!

    Hmm. You have to remember to breath in again.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 12:19

    Whoah! Just blew my nose and nearly fainted!

    Just saw it now. Oh my.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 12:20

    I dont know how recent the photo is, but the photo of the german on the bbc f1 front page makes him look a bit out of shape...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 12:21

    that would be awesome!

    We didn't start the flame war. But I guarantee we win it.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 12:23

    BOTH Hungary videos are up. Onboard is from Fernando Alonso.

    http://www.formula1.com/video/

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 12:23

    I like that the youtube video of messages to Massa has Heikki unlike the one that was linked to on that other blog. Yay Heikki!

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 12:25

    BOTH Hungary videos are up. Onboard is from Fernando Alonso.

    When his wheel flew off?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 12:26

    BOTH Hungary videos are up.

    Girls Aloud?! Who chose that one...?

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 12:28

    Girls Aloud?! Who chose that one...?

    I prefered the Melbourne video

    :P

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 12:28

    Girls Aloud?! Who chose that one...?

    too much THAT woman.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 12:32

    Jon, what we were talking about earlier with that Uprising clip... I have decided to combine the two ;)

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 12:33

    Jon, what we were talking about earlier with that Uprising clip... I have decided to combine the two ;)

    ahahaha, you need a medal

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 12:33

    When his wheel flew off?

    Nope - his pole lap, I think.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 12:52

    I've just seen the Christmas doctor who advert.

    It.looks.amazing!!!!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 12:53

    It is pointless arguing with Schumacher fans.

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 12:54

    It is pointless arguing with Schumacher fans.

    surely you must have learned that years ago!

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 12:54

    It is pointless arguing with Schumacher fans.

    Maybe it's because they have an equal pov? Just because you don't agree with them dosent make it pointless, i'm sure they think the same of you

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 12:57

    It is pointless arguing with Schumacher fans.

    Didn't you just say that last night?

    Maybe it’s because they have an equal pov? Just because you don’t agree with them dosent make it pointless, i’m sure they think the same of you

    true.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 13:00

    It is pointless arguing with Schumacher fans.

    Indeed. another apologist I'm afraid. The one we are referring to is 100% sure he never ever made a mistake!

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 13:01

    Indeed. another apologist I'm afraid. The one we are referring to is 100% sure he never ever made a mistake!

    I feel like the only F1 fan not following that girl but she tweets so often

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 13:02

    I feel like the only F1 fan not following that girl but she tweets so often

    who is this and what does she do?

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 13:05

    who is this and what does she do?

    I have no idea but on Follow Fridays everyone always recommends her so I always look but I see nothing worth reading.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 13:08

    who is this and what does she do?

    I have no idea but on Follow Fridays everyone always recommends her so I always look but I see nothing worth reading.

    She also runs an F1 site which I am checking out now...

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 13:14

    She also runs an F1 site which I am checking out now...

    oooh i am in the mood for a good troll... where do i go?

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 13:14

    She also runs an F1 site which I am checking out now...

    is that the one that was designed to be a place for F1 tweeters to post?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 13:14

    She also runs an F1 site which I am checking out now...

    is that the one that was designed to be a place for F1 tweeters to post?

    yep.

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 13:15

    yep.

    ah. Didn't hold my interest so I never went back after my first visit. I have SPC, I don't need another community :D

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:19

    Indeed. another apologist I’m afraid. The one we are referring to is 100% sure he never ever made a mistake!

    Looks like I shouldn't have pointed out Twitter to you last night, Steven. ;)

    ah. Didn’t hold my interest so I never went back after my first visit. I have SPC, I don’t need another community

    Awww! :D

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 13:21

    ah. Didn't hold my interest so I never went back after my first visit. I have SPC, I don't need another community :D

    If somone on the internet is wrong, i need to know where so i can correct them...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 13:24

    ah. Didn't hold my interest so I never went back after my first visit. I have SPC, I don't need another community :D

    If somone on the internet is wrong, i need to know where so i can correct them...

    Don't bother - the gist of the debate is either "He is the greatest" or don't say anything!

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:24

    If somone on the internet is wrong, i need to know where so i can correct them…

    Hmmm... They'll probably be a lot more difficult than me to convince, to be honest with ya.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 13:24

    I think this was a master stoke by max and bernie.

    Look how united the fans of f1 were just last week...

    Now any idea of a fans alliance has fallen apart as the dark lord decends and divides us

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:26

    Now any idea of a fans alliance has fallen apart as the dark lord decends and divides us

    And they got Ferrari to do it - again. I thought Ferrari and Schumi were with FOTA?! Oh, wait, Bernie's siding with FOTA.

    :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 13:27

    surely you must have learned that years ago!

    I refuse to sit by while they claim he is blameless and the greatest ever

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:27

    Now any idea of a fans alliance has fallen apart as the dark lord decends and divides us

    Does this spell the end of FOFA? Poor BoL.

    The dark lord? I'm quite honestly laughing at that one. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 13:28

    surely you must have learned that years ago!

    I refuse to sit by while they claim he is blameless and the greatest ever

    Same here - but it's pointless!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 13:29

    Maybe it's because they have an equal pov? Just because you don't agree with them dosent make it pointless, i'm sure they think the same of you

    When they are prepared to deal in facts fine. But while they make insane statements like he didn't do anything anyone else didn't do or he didn't plan to ram Villeneuve when anyone looking at the line he took can see he did I will argue. If he gets a good result the internet is going to be unberable

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:30

    I refuse to sit by while they claim he is blameless and the greatest ever

    It's a long summer break. You have your work cut out.

    And the better he does, the more people will be coming out of the woodwork.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 13:31

    And they got Ferrari to do it - again. I thought Ferrari and Schumi were with FOTA?! Oh, wait, Bernie's siding with FOTA.

    Bernie is owed a lot of favours by Schumacher and Ferrari

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:31

    If he gets a good result the internet is going to be unbearable

    Spooky - again.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 13:31

    Maybe it's because they have an equal pov? Just because you don't agree with them dosent make it pointless, i'm sure they think the same of you

    When they are prepared to deal in facts fine. But while they make insane statements like he didn't do anything anyone else didn't do or he didn't plan to ram Villeneuve when anyone looking at the line he took can see he did I will argue. If he gets a good result the internet is going to be unberable

    I think you may have hit the core of the reason why Mr & Mrs C aren't here with that statement, TBH...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 13:31

    And the better he does, the more people will be coming out of the woodwork.

    That's the problem. These are only pathfinders

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:32

    Bernie is owed a lot of favours by Schumacher and Ferrari

    I suspect they were planning to announce this later, but BMW's plans made them move up their schedule.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 13:32

    I think you may have hit the core of the reason why Mr & Mrs C aren't here with that statement, TBH...

    I sympathise totally with them but he is not driving me away from the sport and he is not taking this community from me

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 13:34

    I sympathise totally with them but he is not driving me away from the sport and he is not taking this community from me

    Too right, and more you try and convince them, the more they'll just ignore you.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:35

    I sympathise totally with them but he is not driving me away from the sport and he is not taking this community from me

    I may disagree with your viewpoints, but I sure support your fighting spirit. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 13:36

    I sympathise totally with them but he is not driving me away from the sport and he is not taking this community from me

    Too right, and more you try and convince them, the more they'll just ignore you.

    That's fine by me - I can't stand hearing all this rubbish!

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 13:38

    Steven... you might be resistant to this.

    I think you need a blog page to just list the crimes and scandels that surround this driver so you can point people to it where they can read at length.

    Too many people just have no knowledge and see THIS DRIVER= winner = good

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 13:40

    Too right, and more you try and convince them, the more they'll just ignore you.

    Unfortunately Schumacher fans don't think that way. As I have said before they are having a religious experience and will defend their faith regardless of facts or sense. My job is to convert them to reality.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 13:42

    I think you need a blog page to just list the crimes and scandels that surround this driver so you can point people to it where they can read at length.

    I have written this stuff on so many websites. It makes no difference to them. It is likethey are programmed. Michael good, everyone else bad. I have just had the third one today suggest that she hopes he rams Hamilton. What kind of moron suggest that they want to see ramming in F1?

  • Aitch30/07/2009 at 13:42

    I refuse to sit by while they claim he is blameless and the greatest ever

    One of the racing magazines, a few years ago, asked motorsport journalists to list their top F1 drivers and when one was asked why he didn't MS as his top pick he said 'cleverly written contracts don't make you a great driver. A couple days ago I said we get no F1 info here, well now every time I turn the news on they all seem to be talking about his return and nothing about BMW pulling out. As far as I'm concerned MS is nothing but a scourge to the F1 community. Now off to work.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 13:49

    What kind of moron suggest that they want to see ramming in F1?

    me earlier if it's Sutil taking out Schumacher ;) and you agreed :)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 13:51

    and you agreed :)

    oops. :D

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:00

    Not that it really matters any more, but joe thinks the Concorde agreement could be signed tomorrow... http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/concorde-agreement-coming-tomorrow/

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 14:01

    Once piquet gets fired, i would like him to write a book. That's one book i would almost certainly read.

    Anyone know what happened to the spygate book? From the mclaren guy who's name escapes me?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:02

    Once piquet gets fired, i would like him to write a book. That's one book i would almost certainly read.

    He will get another drive if he wants one; of that i have no doubt.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 14:03

    He will get another drive if he wants one; of that i have no doubt.

    If he gets fired this year, where does he go then?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:03

    me earlier if it's Sutil taking out Schumacher ;) and you agreed :)

    I wasn't being serious

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:05

    Anyone know what happened to the spygate book? From the mclaren guy who's name escapes me?

    Nigel Stepney of Ferrari was going to write book. It will be available last July

    http://www.nigel-stepney.com/

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:05

    If he gets fired this year, where does he go then?

    His dad hasnt funded his motorsport career, started teams for him in multiple categories including GP2 just for him to have 2 years under flavs thumb at Renault...

    He will get a drive

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:05

    Who suggested twitter? I am suffering as a result Mr C. You owe me for this

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 14:07

    I wasn't being serious

    okay. i wasn't so sure ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:07
  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 14:09

    Reactions from F1 people about the return of 'him'

    should we resist or tear some of these opinions apart? I've only got as far as Niki Lauda's opinon of "Has there ever been anything more exciting in motor racing?". Yes there has been. I'm going to stop reading now I think ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:11

    Reactions from F1 people about the return of 'him'

    should we resist or tear some of these opinions apart? I've only got as far as Niki Lauda's opinon of "Has there ever been anything more exciting in motor racing?". Yes there has been. I'm going to stop reading now I think ;)

    Ahem, don't listen to EJ then!

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:11

    Ahem, don't listen to EJ then!

    I summise: 'wahhhhhhhh Raikkonen wahhhhhh'

    get a hobby EJ.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 14:12

    Ahem, don't listen to EJ then!

    I summise: 'wahhhhhhhh Raikkonen wahhhhhh'

    get a hobby EJ.

    I think I will...and get back to work ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:16

    Listening to some of the comments on Twitter today, I now understand why Bernie has made so much money!

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:17

    There may be a White Knight to rise up and slay the Dark Lord before the end of the season...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77434

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:18

    The dumbest comment I have read today is "Will he return as Michael Schumacher, or will he wear his white suit and helmet and return as "The Stig"?" and I thought they were being sarcastic until they started arguing about how it was obviously true because Top Gear said so.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:19

    The dumbest comment I have read today is "Will he return as Michael Schumacher, or will he wear his white suit and helmet and return as "The Stig"?" and I thought they were being sarcastic until they started arguing about how it was obviously true because Top Gear said so.

    At least they didnt call it a hat.... ;)

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:19

    There may be a White Knight to rise up and slay the Dark Lord before the end of the season...

    All very good news :D

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 14:19

    about how it was obviously true because Top Gear said so.

    that's about as funny as people who think the internet is all true.

  • Jarrett30/07/2009 at 14:21

    Hello all, I just dropped by to say hi and see what all the fuss is about. I didn't want to believe it, I wanted to pretend it was all a bad dream but it seems to be true, a Brazilian out, a German back in for a spell. Sour.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 14:21

    All very good news :D

    It's great he's feeling better :)

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:21

    that's about as funny as people who think the internet is all true.

    he ended his argument with "I'm sure The Stig contravesy could go on for months on end w/o any real conclusions."

    *headdesk*

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 14:21

    that's about as funny as people who think the internet is all true.

    you mean wikipedia isn't true?!

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 14:22

    he ended his argument with "I'm sure The Stig contravesy could go on for months on end w/o any real conclusions."

    *headdesk*

    *facepalm*

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 14:23

    he ended his argument with "I'm sure The Stig contravesy could go on for months on end w/o any real conclusions."

    *headdesk*

    *facepalm*

    *nosecupboard*

    ...ow

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:25

    ...ow

    :D

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 14:25

    ...ow

    :D

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:25

    hahhaa sky sports news randomly put a half second clip of button on in between 2 stories on Livingstone football club!

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:25

    hahhaa sky sports news randomly put a half second clip of button on in between 2 stories on Livingstone football club!

    ooh, subliminal

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:26

    its ok... he is in the next story. Button expects him to be on the pace at valencia, and thinks every one will make fun of him if he isnt.

    last bit of that was slightly embelished

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:27

    last bit of that was slightly embelished

    :D I hope Rubens is sleeping OK ;)

  • RG30/07/2009 at 14:27

    hahhaa sky sports news randomly put a half second clip of button on in between 2 stories on Livingstone football club!

    Isn't it like.

    Yeah, club going into administration.

    Lets talk to Button about Schumacher

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 14:27

    Must. Resist. Temptation.

    I'm hungryyy... but... we're going to a carvery tonight so we'll have a huge dinner with LOTS OF MINT SAUCE. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

  • Scott in Italy30/07/2009 at 14:28

    that's about as funny as people who think the internet is all true.

    you mean wikipedia isn't true?!

    of course it is. I'm on it ;)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:30

    ooh, subliminal

    From the ridiculous to the sublime?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:30

    Must. Resist. Temptation.

    I'm hungryyy... but... we're going to a carvery tonight so we'll have a huge dinner with LOTS OF MINT SAUCE. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    Carvery... Lucky B! I will be ordering in Pizza as we will be baking for Mrs. Goat's birthday tomorrow...

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:31

    Carvery... Lucky B! I will be ordering in Pizza as we will be baking for Mrs. Goat's birthday tomorrow...

    I had turkish bread with brie and sundried tomato pesto. Yum yum.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:31

    So I'm talking on Facebook to the man who does not like stats and he says about Schumacher:

    not his fault he was brilliant

    but it is s fault he was a cheat

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:32

    I had turkish bread with brie and sundried tomato pesto. Yum yum.

    Australia is obsessed with this turkish bread.

    I dont think i have seen it anywhere here!

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:34

    I dont think i have seen it anywhere here!

    eheheh I went to the bakery at the market and it was the only thing left that looked remotely like I could dip it in pesto. I'd never bought it before :D

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:34

    I dont think i have seen it anywhere here!

    (other than turkish restraunts and shops) ;)

  • Dr. Steve-O in Oklahoma, USA30/07/2009 at 14:35

    OH HAPPY DAY! SCHUMACHER IS BACK!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:35

    I had turkish bread with brie and sundried tomato pesto. Yum yum.

    Australia is obsessed with this turkish bread.

    I dont think i have seen it anywhere here!

    In Denmark most Pizza places are Turkish...

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:35

    eheheh I went to the bakery at the market and it was the only thing left that looked remotely like I could dip it in pesto. I'd never bought it before :D

    ah must be just my sisters... they buy it all the time.

    If i get any other bread when i am over there it is a miracle

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:35

    OH HAPPY DAY! SCHUMACHER IS BACK!

    You just contradicted yourself?

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:37

    If i get any other bread when i am over there it is a miracle

    i generally buy the sandwich loaf for $1.70 at Aldi ;)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:37

    OH HAPPY DAY! SCHUMACHER IS BACK!

    Some people are happy. The rest of us are thoroughly miserable.

  • Dr. Steve-O in Oklahoma, USA30/07/2009 at 14:38

    I think I am the only one happy about this.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:38

    OH HAPPY DAY! SCHUMACHER IS BACK!

    Another one?

    This could be a looong break!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:38

    I think I am the only one happy about this.

    Actually you're not. Seems the celebration party is on Twitter...

  • me30/07/2009 at 14:39

    i'm not here.

    there must be scope for a guest post detailing exactly just how evil schumacher is. if i were a betting man, i reckon it might stretch to a whole series.

    any takers?

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 14:40

    any takers?

    so steven, want something to do?#

    :P

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:41

    i'm not here.

    hehe...

    Hiatus?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:42

    i'm not here.

    there must be scope for a guest post detailing exactly just how evil schumacher is. if i were a betting man, i reckon it might stretch to a whole series.

    any takers?

    There's a whole book by James Allen on it, in fairness...

  • me30/07/2009 at 14:42

    There's a whole book by James Allen on it, in fairness...

    i think people need reminding.

  • me30/07/2009 at 14:42

    Hiatus?

    oh yeah. holiday. submissions to the usual address, of course.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:42

    I think I am the only one happy about this.

    There are a few but not many.

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:42

    There's a whole book by James Allen on it, in fairness...

    aren't people saying 'read his book, you'll see how great he was!'?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:43

    so steven, want something to do?#

    He is the only man i can see being able to do it justice...

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:43

    He is the only man i can see being able to do it justice...

    I agree

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:44

    i'm not here.

    there must be scope for a guest post detailing exactly just how evil schumacher is. if i were a betting man, i reckon it might stretch to a whole series.

    any takers?

    How dare you show up here after you ruined my afternoon. I opened tweetdeck for the second time in a month to discuss a well known news(sic) service and have been fighting off rampant Schumacher fans ever since with Gavin's assistance.

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:45

    How dare you show up here after you ruined my afternoon. I opened tweetdeck for the second time in a month to discuss a well known news(sic) service and have been fighting off rampant Schumacher fans ever since with Gavin's assistance.

    see now you can do a guest post and fight them all with just one cut and paste link to it :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:46

    There's a whole book by James Allen on it, in fairness...

    aren't people saying 'read his book, you'll see how great he was!'?

    When I read it, it convinced me how devious, single-minded, dishonest and unsporting he was. The man put winning above the sport!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:46

    so steven, want something to do?#

    No way. I have written more than enough about him over the years. I doubt I will write another post on him until his obituary and he will probably outlive me to deny me a few years pleasure.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 14:46

    How dare you show up here after you ruined my afternoon. I opened tweetdeck for the second time in a month to discuss a well known news(sic) service and have been fighting off rampant Schumacher fans ever since with Gavin's assistance.

    #blamesteven

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:46

    so steven, want something to do?#

    No way. I have written more than enough about him over the years. I doubt I will write another post on him until his obituary and he will probably outlive me to deny me a few years pleasure.

    Why not collate some of your writings?

  • Amy30/07/2009 at 14:46

    When I read it, it convinced me how devious, single-minded, dishonest and unsporting he was. The man put winning above the sport!

    I might take it to work tomorrow and give it a re-read :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:47

    Why not collate some of your writings?

    Why bother?

  • me30/07/2009 at 14:47

    How dare you show up here after you ruined my afternoon. I opened tweetdeck for the second time in a month to discuss a well known news(sic) service and have been fighting off rampant Schumacher fans ever since with Gavin's assistance.

    ummm. sorry?

    although i can't think of a better crime fighting duo than "rubbergoat and roy".

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:47

    I might take it to work tomorrow and give it a re-read :D

    Please bear in mind the man that wrote it bows his head at the Ferrari alter!

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:48

    although i can't think of a better crime fighting duo than "rubbergoat and roy".

    hahaha

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 14:48

    although i can't think of a better crime fighting duo than "rubbergoat and roy".

    That's begging for a theme tune

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:49

    I might take it to work tomorrow and give it a re-read :D

    Please bear in mind the man that wrote it bows his head at the Ferrari alter!

    He does, but strangely, it seems like he is very critical of the man...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:49

    although i can't think of a better crime fighting duo than "rubbergoat and roy".

    Typical I don't even get top billing. Yes I know it sounds better that way round.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 14:49

    although i can't think of a better crime fighting duo than "rubbergoat and roy".

    :D i love it!

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 14:49

    Typical I don't even get top billing. Yes I know it sounds better that way round.

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:50

    although i can't think of a better crime fighting duo than "rubbergoat and roy".

    Typical I don't even get top billing. Yes I know it sounds better that way round.

    Are you the good cop or the bad cop?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 14:50

    He does, but strangely, it seems like he is very critical of the man...

    Hmmm. I think he's critical and praising in turns. Objective? Conflicted? Both?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 14:50

    Why bother?

    I think it would be really good to have somewhere to point people who dont know these things. Even a seasoned disliker such as my self doesnt remember all these things or the context they happened in. Your knowledge and style make you the ideal person to do this.

    I think its important it is written

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:50

    although i can't think of a better crime fighting duo than "rubbergoat and roy".

    I think we may need re-inforcements. I ma doing my best impression of we come in peace, shoot to kill shoot to kill but there are just too may of the captain

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:51

    Are you the good cop or the bad cop?

    You can't use good cops on Schumacher fans. Shoot first and ask questions later.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 14:51

    He does, but strangely, it seems like he is very critical of the man...

    Hmmm. I think he's critical and praising in turns. Objective? Conflicted? Both?

    Both ... but he is critical where it counts...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 14:52

    I think it would be really good to have somewhere to point people who dont know these things. Even a seasoned disliker such as my self doesnt remember all these things or the context they happened in. Your knowledge and style make you the ideal person to do this.

    Of course, that will make it the magnet of long pointless pro-Schumi rants. Not sure Christine would appreciate a flame war going on here. Would clutter the Doohickey, too.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:52

    I think its important it is written

    If I was going to write another guest post it would not beabout him. Even if I did we would just attract them and it would become a flame war and I don't want that here.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 14:53

    Even if I did we would just attract them and it would become a flame war and I don't want that here.

    How many times will we keep saying the same thing? :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:53

    Of course, that will make it the magnet of long pointless pro-Schumi rants. Not sure Christine would appreciate a flame war going on here. Would clutter the Doohickey, too.

    Are you reading my mind or something. How can I beat you in a quiz when you are inside my head?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 14:54

    Are you reading my mind or something. How can I beat you in a quiz when you are inside my head?

    Simple: you can't beat me. Mwahahaha! :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:54

    I think we may need re-inforcements. I ma doing my best impression of we come in peace, shoot to kill shoot to kill but there are just too may of the captain

    I post this and Shatner posts a tweet at the same time. It's a sign

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:55

    Simple: you can't beat me. Mwahahaha! :D

    Hammer time

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 14:55

    Hammer time

    Stop - hammer time?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 14:58

    I thought my last tweet would have provoked a reaction but got nothing

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 14:59

    I thought my last tweet would have provoked a reaction but got nothing

    Just saw your page - how can you follow 297 people and not go nuts?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 15:00

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2009/07/when_lewis_hamilton_made_his.html

    Benson has blogged and i have replied at the bottom...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:04

    Just saw your page - how can you follow 297 people and not go nuts?

    I rarely use twitter and I don't follow people who tweet every thiry seconds

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:13

    Benson has blogged and i have replied at the bottom...

    I am waiting for a confirmation e-mail so I can get at him. How long does ittake BBC?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:14

    I am waiting for a confirmation e-mail so I can get at him. How long does it take BBC?

    If it's an automated system, shouldn't it be with you by now?

  • Janine30/07/2009 at 15:16

    hello everyone! (especially to Steven Roy whose name has dominated each page I've seen on twitter today!)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:16

    hello everyone! (especially to Steven Roy whose name has dominated each page I've seen on twitter today!)

    Hello, Janine! :D Kamusta? ;)

    Yup, Steven Roy's deep in the trenches today.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 15:18

    RGun-happyplace : talking f1 with germans at this current situation at this current moment in time and space.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:19

    If it's an automated system, shouldn't it be with you by now?

    That's what I thought

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:19

    #motogp

    The 2010 calendar is out: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77390

    No big surprises. Key changes are Silverstone taking over from Donington and the new Hungarian GP at Balatonring.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:19

    hello everyone! (especially to Steven Roy whose name has dominated each page I've seen on twitter today!)

    It's all Mr C's fault. He forced me to go there and I have been viciously attacked ever since.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:19

    #motogp

    The 2010 calendar is out: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77390

    No big surprises. Key changes are Silverstone taking over from Donington and the new Hungarian GP at Balatonring.

    Boo to no Donington :(

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 15:20

    No big surprises. Key changes are Silverstone taking over from Donington and the new Hungarian GP at Balatonring.

    Thty must have read my blog ;)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:20

    Boo to no Donington :(

    That was announced months ago

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 15:20

    #motogp

    I missed this part :(

  • Janine30/07/2009 at 15:20

    Hello, Janine! :D Kamusta? ;)

    Hello po!

    I'm great thanks yourself?

    You're from Manila right? My family are not that far off from there, they're currently in Marilao, Bulacan.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:21

    #motogp

    I missed this part :(

    Just watching last weekend's action now ;)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 15:22

    Just watching last weekend's action now ;)

    I want the F1 calendar though!

  • Janine30/07/2009 at 15:22

    Is there anywhere where we can watch Kimi doing the rallying?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:22

    Hello po!

    I'm great thanks yourself?

    You're from Manila right? My family are not that far off from there, they're currently in Marilao, Bulacan.

    No need to say po - I'm not old at all. :D

    Storming outside - strong rain. Marilao... That's around an hour from here. I'm from UP in QC.

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 15:22

    I'm hungryyy... but... we're going to a carvery tonight so we'll have a huge dinner with LOTS OF MINT SAUCE. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:22

    Storming outside - strong rain. Marilao... That's around an hour from here. I'm from UP in QC.

    Otherwise, I'm good. :D

    Is there anywhere where we can watch Kimi doing the rallying?

    hmmm... no live coverage, only highlight reels at the end of each day. live coverage is on World Rally Radio at wrc.com.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:22

    I'm hungryyy... but... we're going to a carvery tonight so we'll have a huge dinner with LOTS OF MINT SAUCE. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    What's wrong with Mint Sauce?

  • Janine30/07/2009 at 15:24

    Storming outside - strong rain. Marilao... That's around an hour from here. I'm from UP in QC.

    UP as in the college/university?

  • Janine30/07/2009 at 15:24

    hmmm... no live coverage, only highlight reels at the end of each day. live coverage is on World Rally Radio at wrc.com.

    Ah, ok thanks :)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:25

    UP as in the college/university?

    Yup. That one. Well, we don't live in the actual campus, but in a nearby village. ;) How'd you end up in the UK? That's a lot closer to Scandinavia than Amy's ever been. :D

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 15:26

    What's wrong with Mint Sauce?

    Alex thinks mint sauce + any meat = DOOMED.

    I however am rebellious and continue to send continuous amounts of mint sauce on to my cooked dinners whether they be beef, lamp, whatever.

    Especially Chicken. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:26

    What's wrong with Mint Sauce?

    Alex thinks mint sauce + any meat = DOOMED.

    I however am rebellious and continue to send continuous amounts of mint sauce on to my cooked dinners whether they be beef, lamp, whatever.

    Especially Chicken. :D

    Good for you sir!

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:26

    I however am rebellious and continue to send continuous amounts of mint sauce on to my cooked dinners whether they be beef, lamp, whatever.

    Mmmm... mint sauce... You can't go wrong with that. You just can't. :D

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 15:27

    I however am rebellious and continue to send continuous amounts of mint sauce on to my cooked dinners whether they be beef, lamp, whatever.

    Lamb i can deal with. Other meats and mint sauce are wrong. WRONG!

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 15:27

    Lamp? Apparently I eat household items for dinner now. I love lamp.

  • Janine30/07/2009 at 15:27

    I was born and brought up here, but I've been to the Philippines a few times but never really lived there.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:27

    Is there anywhere where we can watch Kimi doing the rallying?

    Not that I know of. There will probably be some highlights somewhere but live coverage is pretty much imposible

  • RG30/07/2009 at 15:28

    Lamp? Apparently I eat household items for dinner now. I love lamp.

    gimme, gimme, gimme.

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 15:28

    Lamp? Apparently I eat household items for dinner now. I love lamp.

    Lamp and chips?

    That's just not light!

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:28

    I was born and brought up here, but I've been to the Philippines a few times but never really lived there.

    Ahhhh... Now there HAS to be an interesting story somewhere here. :D Parents migrated there, then? For work or to avoid Marcos?

    How'd you find it here, by the way? ;)

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 15:28

    That's just not light!

    :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:29

    Lamb i can deal with. Other meats and mint sauce are wrong. WRONG!

    Have you tried chicken with mint sauce? It is fabulous

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 15:29

    Have you tried chicken with mint sauce? It is fabulous

    It really really is

  • Janine30/07/2009 at 15:33

    Yup they went over here but they've been here for a very long time now.

    And over there, it's really really nice! The people are really friendly, food is fantastic and shopping in places like MoA is fun, but in Divisoria you can get a great bargain! I've been there during monsoon season as well, so seeing some of the streets flooded was weird but a bit exciting in some sort of way? Ever been here?

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 15:36

    Ooch - here's a horrible case of 'careful what you wish for' (first comment)

    http://formula1.about.com/b/2008/03/30/schumacher-racing-motorcycles.htm

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:36

    Yup they went over here but they've been here for a very long time now.

    Would you know around how long, by any chance? Just really curious. ;)

    And over there, it's really really nice! The people are really friendly, food is fantastic and shopping in places like MoA is fun, but in Divisoria you can get a great bargain! I've been there during monsoon season as well, so seeing some of the streets flooded was weird but a bit exciting in some sort of way? Ever been here?

    I wish - maybe in a couple of years once I have the cash to do it. :D I do have a friend moving to Newcastle in a couple of months - if she's still around by the time I have enough cash, I have someone to bunk with. Hehe.

    Anyway, I'm sure Bassano and Wolf will like seeing what you just wrote. We're hoping to have a Sidepodmeetup in Manila next year. Too bad it doesn't look likely anymore, though. But someday. :D

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:37

    Ooch - here's a horrible case of 'careful what you wish for' (first comment)

    Wow - good find, Chris. Very interesting...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:38

    Ooch - here's a horrible case of 'careful what you wish for' (first comment)

    Wow - good find, Chris. Very interesting...

    Well I guess we get to find out now, don't we?

  • Janine30/07/2009 at 15:39

    Would you know around how long, by any chance? Just really curious. ;)

    Since the 80s I think!

    Gotta go guys, i've got a load of work to do!

    Nice chatting to you Journeyer.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:41

    Bye Janine

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:43

    Since the 80s I think!

    Interesting, interesting. :)

    Nice chatting to you Journeyer.

    Sa uulitin, Janine. :D

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:43

    Well I guess we get to find out now, don't we?

    Yup, pretty much.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:46

    Bruno has commemorated Michael's return with what you might think is a... fitting picture.

    http://mantovani.zip.net/

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:46

    Bruno has commemorated Michael's return with what you might think is a... fitting picture.

    http://mantovani.zip.net/

    Yeah saw that last night. I heart Bruno!

  • Christine30/07/2009 at 15:47

    Ooch - here's a horrible case of 'careful what you wish for' (first comment)

    I am not here either.

    Where does it say I wished for him to come back?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:47

    Yeah saw that last night. I heart Bruno!

    Brilliant all the way. His talent is... wow.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:49

    Where does it say I wished for him to come back?

    It doesn't. But you did wonder, though. Now, we're all about to find out.

  • Christine30/07/2009 at 15:49

    It doesn't. But you did wonder, though. Now, we're all about to find out.

    No I didn't.

    I wondered how long he could carry on for. He didn't carry on, he retired.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:50

    Renault's appeal date is in time to let Alonso race at Valencia

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77437

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:50

    I wondered how long he could carry on for. He didn't carry on, he retired.

    Well, he's carrying on again.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:50

    Renault's appeal date is in time to let Alonso race at Valencia

    Wanna bet they'll let them off the hook with a fine and reprimand?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:51

    Renault's appeal date is in time to let Alonso race at Valencia

    Wanna bet they'll let them off the hook with a fine and reprimand?

    Yep. Put a Tenner on it!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:51

    Not being here seems to be very popular all of a sudden

  • Christine30/07/2009 at 15:51

    Well, he's carrying on again.

    Fair enough if you see it that way. My comment was not intended that way.

    Am off again.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:51

    Yep. Put a Tenner on it!

    I wish I could... ;)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:52

    Am off again.

    Later.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 15:52

    Am off again.

    See ya Christine. :)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:52

    Not being here seems to be very popular all of a sudden

    #blamesteven

    For sure. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:52

    Am off again.

    Later.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 15:52

    Wanna bet they'll let them off the hook with a fine and reprimand?

    The only reason to have the case heard then is to sell Valencia tickets between now and then. Hurry buy your tickets and see Schumacher vs Alonso. Renault will get a severe reprimand and maybe a fine.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:53

    I heart Bruno!

    Reading that again, I now find that statement odd... Must be Sasha Baron Cohen's fault. :D

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 15:53

    The only reason to have the case heard then is to sell Valencia tickets between now and then. Hurry buy your tickets and see Schumacher vs Alonso. Renault will get a severe reprimand and maybe a fine.

    It's unanimous, then.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 15:53

    I heart Bruno!

    Reading that again, I now find that statement odd... Must be Sasha Baron Cohen's fault. :D

    There's only one Bruno for me!

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:00

    okay so i've done enough sleeping for today and feel a little better. so how is everyone? have you all seen the good news about massa :)

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:00

    okay so i've done enough sleeping for today and feel a little better. so how is everyone? have you all seen the good news about massa :)

    yes, i have! very good news. :D

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 16:01

    okay so i've done enough sleeping for today and feel a little better. so how is everyone? have you all seen the good news about massa :)

    good to hear you're feeling better, and the massa news is awesome!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:03

    okay so i've done enough sleeping for today and feel a little better. so how is everyone? have you all seen the good news about massa :)

    You are better, he is better. Things are getting better. Butyou are now banned forever from going to London. I told you if you went there bad things would happen.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:04

    So I have just been informed that the Classic Team Lotus meetup has been cancelled. the wiki page has been updated so I just thought I'd let you know...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:05

    okay so i've done enough sleeping for today and feel a little better. so how is everyone? have you all seen the good news about massa :)

    Good to hear - and great news about Massa...

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:06

    You are better, he is better. Things are getting better. Butyou are now banned forever from going to London. I told you if you went there bad things would happen.

    you make a good point, but after the migraine london gave me i'll be alright staying in my little rubbish town for a few days...

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 16:06

    Good morning/whatever everybody.

    Nice to see Me/Christine... you guys are allowed to take a more substancial break you know.

    okay so i've done enough sleeping for today and feel a little better. so how is everyone? have you all seen the good news about massa :)

    Yes, the faster we can get him 100%, the sooner we can kick "the man who will not be mentioned or TMWWNBM" out.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:07

    you make a good point, but after the migraine london gave me i'll be alright staying in my little rubbish town for a few days...

    Never mind your migraine. Schumacher happened.

  • Rich30/07/2009 at 16:07

    Not sure if any one else has mentioned this but Williams not being in FOTA have said they may use their KERS next year as it is only a gentleman's agreement between the FOTA teams. Possibly more menacingly they went on to say that for regulations to be changed and for KERS to be banned requires that all teams agree. Now having won a race using the technology Mercedes are saying that they are considering their position. Still seems to be the old politics. I think BMW might still be in F1 if they had been able to get the KERS approved within FOTA for next year.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:11

    Never mind your migraine. Schumacher happened.

    oh.. he'll go away again just as fast as he came, surely he has to be at race fitness right? even if he is, he'll come back, crash or make a fool of himself and then go away again... Even if he is around for the rest of the season SPC is a large enough community to try and ignore him, surely? he sure as hell isn't going to ruin my enjoyment of Jenson's fight for the championship... and if he does..... i'll...i'll... be furious.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:13

    oh.. he'll go away again just as fast as he came, surely he has to be at race fitness right? even if he is, he'll come back, crash or make a fool of himself and then go away again... Even if he is around for the rest of the season SPC is a large enough community to try and ignore him, surely? he sure as hell isn't going to ruin my enjoyment of Jenson's fight for the championship... and if he does..... i'll...i'll... be furious.

    Unfortunately I think he will be competitive. My big worry is if Todt become president and Ross gives him a drive we ar back in the dark days.

    Go Ari !!

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:14

    Unfortunately I think he will be competitive. My big worry is if Todt become president and Ross gives him a drive we ar back in the dark days.

    Even as a Schumi fan, that is a scary thought.

    Go Ari !!

    Ari all the way! :D

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:15

    Unfortunately I think he will be competitive. My big worry is if Todt become president and Ross gives him a drive we ar back in the dark days.

    Schumi isn't allowed to go to Brawn. he just isn't. I wont let him destroy my team.. he wont and can't. the thought of that makes me very sad... and angry

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 16:15

    Unfortunately I think he will be competitive. My big worry is if Todt become president and Ross gives him a drive we ar back in the dark days.

    Call me stupid but I see Bruno Senna getting more chance of getting a Brawn drive than I see Michael. I really, really don't see that happening whatsoever, at all.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 16:16

    I think BMW might still be in F1 if they had been able to get the KERS approved within FOTA for next year.

    I'm not sure. I think BMW soured on Formula One. What they wanted was F1 to drive technology for them, unforchunately the situation hampered them where the FIA overregulates new technologies and the teams went againist these new technologies. Personally, I think the failure of KERS so far is squarely on the shoulders of the FIA and how they mishandled its' introduction.

    Also, I think the factor that a lot of people are missing is that BMW cannot afford to use the team as a promotional tool if it doesn't go to its' markets. With the U.S. and possibly Germany without races, what is the point. Are you really going to sell cars by having a race in two Arabian countries and Malaysia?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:17

    Schumi isn't allowed to go to Brawn. he just isn't. I wont let him destroy my team.. he wont and can't. the thought of that makes me very sad... and angry

    Well, it looks like we know the one person who can drain Lou's positive spirit.

    #blameschumacher

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:17

    Unfortunately I think he will be competitive. My big worry is if Todt become president and Ross gives him a drive we ar back in the dark days.

    Call me stupid but I see Bruno Senna getting more chance of getting a Brawn drive than I see Michael. I really, really don't see that happening whatsoever, at all.

    Hey Stupid ;)

    No, you may have a point there... but how tempted is Ross?

  • RG30/07/2009 at 16:17

    #blameschumacher

    I'm scared how he will get to me, it will be somehow.

    *breathes heavily*

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:19

    I'm enjoying Massa's comments that he's warning Schumacher not to get too comfortable! That's the spirit.

    http://vincepettit.co.uk/2009/07/massa-looking-to-valencia-for-return

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 16:21

    Also, I think the factor that a lot of people are missing is that BMW cannot afford to use the team as a promotional tool if it doesn't go to its' markets. With the U.S. and possibly Germany without races, what is the point. Are you really going to sell cars by having a race in two Arabian countries and Malaysia?

    Those markets make more money than you think. Porshe make more money out of there Abu dhabi showroom than any other in the world.

    I imagine for brands like Ferrari, BMW and Lexus the same could be true as well.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:22

    Call me stupid but I see Bruno Senna getting more chance of getting a Brawn drive than I see Michael. I really, really don't see that happening whatsoever, at all.

    Perfectly reasonable opinion. I just don'tsee Schumacher as someone who would do a few races. I also see him as the biggest sponsor magnet Brawn could have. Even bigger than the Senna name

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 16:23

    I'm enjoying Massa's comments that he's warning Schumacher not to get too comfortable! That's the spirit.

    What interesting is that Massa and Schumacher apparently get along very well while Kimi and Michael do not. Noticed we really haven't heard anything from Kimi since the announcement.Now he is the man I will be watching in Valencia.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:23

    Well, it looks like we know the one person who can drain Lou's positive spirit.

    he makes me angry, and rumours of him coming to my team make me angry.. because he will either a) force JB out of the team, b) destroy any chance JB has left in his career, or c) kill my love for the team within a race. So, i find it hard to be positive about him.

  • Chris30/07/2009 at 16:24

    Evening all!

    http://vincepettit.co.uk/2009/07/massa-looking-to-valencia-for-return

    That is a great thing to read just after you've finished work! :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:24

    I'm enjoying Massa's comments that he's warning Schumacher not to get too comfortable! That's the spirit.

    Nothing would make me happier than Massa being given the all clear to race in Valencia but I don't see it happening.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:25

    looking on the bright side... Brawn are still awesome and i've just realised that two of my photos have made it into their fan gallery :D

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 16:25

    looking on the bright side... Brawn are still awesome and i've just realised that two of my photos have made it into their fan gallery :D

    Awesome!

    *goes and looks*

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:25

    he makes me angry, and rumours of him coming to my team make me angry.. because he will either a) force JB out of the team, b) destroy any chance JB has left in his career, or c) kill my love for the team within a race. So, i find it hard to be positive about him.

    Look on the bright side. How funny would it be for Ross to sign Schumacher and Jenson to take his number one to a top team?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:26

    looking on the bright side... Brawn are still awesome and i've just realised that two of my photos have made it into their fan gallery :D

    Well done

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:27

    Look on the bright side. How funny would it be for Ross to sign Schumacher and Jenson to take his number one to a top team?

    but... Brawn are a top team... to me...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:27

    Look on the bright side. How funny would it be for Ross to sign Schumacher and Jenson to take his number one to a top team?

    Am not sure that's particularly funny...

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:27

    I don't think he'll be remotely fit enough, but it's nice to see the fighting spirit. Do you remember Kimi's reaction when Schumacher appeared on the pit wall. All the journos were asking Kimi if he'd got any advice from Schumacher and his one word answers were even shorter than usual!

    EDIT: This is a response to Stephen, but I can't work out the quote thing yet. I'll give it a try.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:27

    looking on the bright side... Brawn are still awesome and i've just realised that two of my photos have made it into their fan gallery :D

    Got a link? Plug it on your blog!

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:31

    Got a link? Plug it on your blog!

    will plug on my blog when i feel up to writing anything, atm i'm still collapsed on my bed :)

    links are

    1 - http://tinyurl.com/nybbu9

    2 - http://tinyurl.com/lcu2kw

  • Chris30/07/2009 at 16:31

    Sorry about the double post, Doohicky broke for me.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 16:33

    Heading off to the carvery now, finally :) will speak to you all later.

  • Rich30/07/2009 at 16:33

    I'm not sure. I think BMW soured on Formula One. What they wanted was F1 to drive technology for them, unforchunately the situation hampered them where the FIA overregulates new technologies and the teams went againist these new technologies. Personally, I think the failure of KERS so far is squarely on the shoulders of the FIA and how they mishandled its' introduction.

    Agree with all you say, I guess what I was saying that KERS was something than might have been used to defend those withing to remain in F1. FIA messed up KERS in the way of its introduction rather than it not being the future. I also think BMW took an especially dim of view of the two idiots (Max and Bernie) with their Nazi-flavoured statements plus not have North America and as you say even Germany races for the marketing. Can you blame them?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:33

    Heading off to the carvery now, finally :) will speak to you all later.

    Have fun!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:34

    I'm not sure. I think BMW soured on Formula One. What they wanted was F1 to drive technology for them, unforchunately the situation hampered them where the FIA overregulates new technologies and the teams went againist these new technologies. Personally, I think the failure of KERS so far is squarely on the shoulders of the FIA and how they mishandled its' introduction.

    Agree with all you say, I guess what I was saying that KERS was something than might have been used to defend those withing to remain in F1. FIA messed up KERS in the way of its introduction rather than it not being the future. I also think BMW took an especially dim of view of the two idiots (Max and Bernie) with their Nazi-flavoured statements plus not have North America and as you say even Germany races for the marketing. Can you blame them?

    Well when you put it like that, no, not really!

  • RG30/07/2009 at 16:35

    Heading off to the carvery now, finally :) will speak to you all later.

    awww. Have fun with that then!

  • lou30/07/2009 at 16:35

    Heading off to the carvery now, finally :) will speak to you all later.

    have a lovely dinner :)

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 16:35

    Agree with all you say, I guess what I was saying that KERS was something than might have been used to defend those withing to remain in F1. FIA messed up KERS in the way of its introduction rather than it not being the future. I also think BMW took an especially dim of view of the two idiots (Max and Bernie) with their Nazi-flavoured statements plus not have North America and as you say even Germany races for the marketing. Can you blame them?

    Absolutely not. Frankly, I can see Toyota leaving on the same grounds to be honest.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 16:37

    Absolutely not. Frankly, I can see Toyota leaving on the same grounds to be honest.

    I cant see them leaving untill they have either won more races than honda, or the championship...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:38

    Heading off to the carvery now, finally :) will speak to you all later.

    Male sure you get plenty of mint sauce

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:38

    Engines remaining in F1:

    Renault - (selling up?)

    Mercedes

    Toyota - (quitting?)

    Cosworth (not back yet)

    Ferrari

    I wonder what will happen to the BMW engine IP? I guess they'd only want to sell to a privateer - wonder if Cosworth or Williams would be interested in picking it up.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:39

    I wonder what will happen to the BMW engine IP? I guess they'd only want to sell to a privateer - wonder if Cosworth or Williams would be interested in picking it up.

    Same as Honda - no-one gets to use it!

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:39

    I wonder what will happen to the BMW engine IP? I guess they'd only want to sell to a privateer - wonder if Cosworth or Williams would be interested in picking it up.

    I want the company that bought them last time to do it again. Their name? Megatron! :D

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:40

    Did Honda have any IP though ;-)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 16:40

    I wonder what will happen to the BMW engine IP? I guess they'd only want to sell to a privateer - wonder if Cosworth or Williams would be interested in picking it up.

    \i would guess someone like Alpina might take it on

  • Rich30/07/2009 at 16:41

    Nothing would make me happier than Massa being given the all clear to race in Valencia but I don't see it happening.

    I would love him to return to Valencia for so many reasons (one of which is to deny MS a return to racing). I do not mind him pretending to be the Stig but he must keep out of F1 and especially my two teams (Toyota and Brawn).

    I do not think he will,but the fact he is eating normal food, taking unassisted showers is fantastic news.

    Personally I doubt if MS will keep up with Kimi so I look forward to something of humiliation - well I am trying to convince myself of this.

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:41

    I think we'd all like to see Megatron on the grid. Maybe powering a MasterCard Lola with Sato and Piquet as drivers

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 16:41

    Did Honda have any IP though ;-)

    If Brawn had wanted it i suspect it would have gone back to mugen#

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:42

    I think we'd all like to see Megatron on the grid. Maybe powering a MasterCard Lola with Sato and Piquet as drivers

    Who would be Optimus Prime if that happened?

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:43

    I can't remember if it was Steve Matchett on SPEED or Brundle, but one or other of them was explaining that when Cosworth packed up most of the brains ended up at Mercedes Benz Ilmor so that Merc actually have more claim to the Cosworth heritage than the current Cosworth do, which I found quite ominous for the new teams next season.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:43

    I wonder what will happen to the BMW engine IP? I guess they'd only want to sell to a privateer - wonder if Cosworth or Williams would be interested in picking it up.

    It will disappear like Honda's

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:44

    I can't remember if it was Steve Matchett on SPEED or Brundle, but one or other of them was explaining that when Cosworth packed up most of the brains ended up at Mercedes Benz Ilmor so that Merc actually have more claim to the Cosworth heritage than the current Cosworth do, which I found quite ominous for the new teams next season.

    Didn't Ilmor sell their stake in the Merc engines and move on? I haven't seen Ilmor's Mario lately.

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:44

    I think that would need an FIA ruling. Maybe some sort of cyborg using Jean Todt's DNA.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:45

    I can't remember if it was Steve Matchett on SPEED or Brundle, but one or other of them was explaining that when Cosworth packed up most of the brains ended up at Mercedes Benz Ilmor so that Merc actually have more claim to the Cosworth heritage than the current Cosworth do, which I found quite ominous for the new teams next season.

    The guys who started Ilmor came from Cosworth so it is a safe bet they knew who the good guys at Cosworh were.

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:45

    I think so, but it was a reverse out wasn't it - so the Merc factory is the Ilmor factory and the 'new' Ilmor is somewhere else?

  • Rich30/07/2009 at 16:45

    I wonder what will happen to the BMW engine IP? I guess they'd only want to sell to a privateer - wonder if Cosworth or Williams would be interested in picking it up.

    I am almost certain the team as in Sauber will be on the grid next year - Peter still has a 20% share in the company. The engine might well get lost - it was not a bad lump - better than the Honda and it has one real asset - it is rumoured to be the least thirsty F1 engine.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:45

    Didn't Ilmor sell their stake in the Merc engines and move on? I haven't seen Ilmor's Mario lately.

    They sold it. It's all Merc now

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:46

    I think so, but it was a reverse out wasn't it - so the Merc factory is the Ilmor factory and the 'new' Ilmor is somewhere else?

    I guess so. Not sure, though.

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:48

    I think so, but it was a reverse out wasn't it - so the Merc factory is the Ilmor factory and the 'new' Ilmor is somewhere else?

    I guess so. Not sure, though.

    Well this I didn't know: From Wikipedia: In 2005, Mario Illien and Roger Penske concluded a deal to purchase the small Special Projects part of the company, which since 2003 had been contracted to design and build Honda's IndyCar Series engines, and split away to become a separate company.

    This new company, which is totally independent of Mercedes, is once again known as Ilmor Engineering Ltd. The new Ilmor continues to support Honda's involvement in the IRL as sole engine supplier.

    Also I know they did a MotoGP bike but it only raced once.

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F130/07/2009 at 16:50

    #644 - Dan Brunell said:

    I’m enjoying Massa’s comments that he’s warning Schumacher not to get too comfortable! That’s the spirit.

    What interesting is that Massa and Schumacher apparently get along very well while Kimi and Michael do not. Noticed we really haven’t heard anything from Kimi since the announcement.Now he is the man I will be watching in Valencia

    Yeah, well, Kimi's a number #1 driver throughout his career and Massa's been a rear gunner for a while....

  • Rich30/07/2009 at 16:52

    Yeah, well, Kimi's a number #1 driver throughout his career and Massa's been a rear gunner for a while....

    Despite being mostly as good on scoring points as Kimi. Felipe just has worse luck.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 16:52

    Well this I didn't know: From Wikipedia: In 2005, Mario Illien and Roger Penske concluded a deal to purchase the small Special Projects part of the company, which since 2003 had been contracted to design and build Honda's IndyCar Series engines, and split away to become a separate company.

    So that explains why Penske dominates the IRL ovals.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:53

    Just ordered a Pizza.

    When we asked if they could be delivered they responded "Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up yourself?"

    :S !

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:54

    Good point from our Steve Dawson:

    Wow the Schumi news is sure polarising ppl. I think he's on a hiding to nothing

    Indeed.

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 16:54

    When we asked if they could be delivered they responded "Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up yourself?"

    Riiiight, then.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 16:54

    When we asked if they could be delivered they responded "Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up yourself?"

    hahaha how do you respond to someone saying that! ?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 16:55

    When we asked if they could be delivered they responded "Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up yourself?"

    hahaha how do you respond to someone saying that! ?

    We told them they had to as we don't have a car!

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 16:55

    hahaha how do you respond to someone saying that! ?

    Simple:

    "Really, in that case there is another pizza place across town that is better but pick up only. I'll be going there. Thanks, good night. (*click*)"

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 16:57

    When we asked if they could be delivered they responded "Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up yourself?"

    You should have said 'Would Amy go and pick it up?'

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 16:57

    We told them they had to as we don't have a car!

    I hope you asked them to be carefull not to scratch the car in the driveway when they deliver it :P

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 16:57

    When we asked if they could be delivered they responded "Wouldn't it be easier to pick it up yourself?"

    hahaha how do you respond to someone saying that! ?

    We told them they had to as we don't have a car!

    Well at least we know what Piquet's career advisor does on weekdays now.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 16:58

    Well at least we know what Piquet's career advisor does on weekdays now.

    I fear its going to be painful for you when he wins a race

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 17:01

    I fear its going to be painful for you when he wins a race

    Why will we care if he wins a go kart race againist some really, really, really, Orca whale sized fat kids? Who is going to report it?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 17:03

    Why will we care if he wins a go kart race againist some really, really, really, Orca whale sized fat kids? Who is going to report it?

    He has a long f1 career ahead of him... and its sods law he will win something

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 17:03

    Evening so I've noticed a new trending topic on twitter...

    I don't want to link to it directly but I think if you look at this search you should be able to figure it out...

    http://twitter.com/#search?q=Yuji Ide

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 17:05

    Evening so I've noticed a new trending topic on twitter...

    would it relate to part of the giggles empire?

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 17:05

    would it relate to part of the giggles empire?

    it seems so, yes.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 17:05

    would it relate to part of the giggles empire?

    Just spotted it

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 17:08

    Just spotted it

    I would like to take anything lying down!

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 17:11

    I would like to take anything lying down!

    I *wouldn't*

    whoops

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 17:12

    whoops

    ah, that makes sense now!

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 17:13

    Idea for the next F1 Minute. It could be a minute's silence for F1.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 17:14

    Idea for the next F1 Minute. It could be a minute's silence for F1.

    Instead we should do a minute mash up of the part in Young Frankenstein where he is screaming "IT"S ALIVE!!!! IT"S ALIVE"

  • Chris D30/07/2009 at 17:15

    Idea for the next F1 Minute. It could be a minute's silence for F1.

    Instead we should do a minute mash up of the part in Young Frankenstein where he is screaming "IT"S ALIVE!!!! IT"S ALIVE"

    I like that idea! A 1 minute horror version of F1 Minute. Nightmare on Pit Road.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 17:16

    I would like to take anything lying down!

    Are we allowed in on the fun or do you want to fight this alone... like Rambo.

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 17:24

    Are we allowed in on the fun or do you want to fight this alone... like Rambo.

    I want you in on the fun...

  • Journeyer30/07/2009 at 17:34

    It seems the action's on Twitter.

    Better get to bed, then.

    Night, everyone.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 17:36

    I have to go outside for a while. I know there is a risk but what else can go wrong. Remember don't talk to laywers(sic)

  • lou30/07/2009 at 17:37

    Night Journeyer! and be careful Steven.. it's still thursday remember..

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 17:40

    what is good to eat when you have a sore throat?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 17:40

    Night, everyone.

    Night

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 17:43

    what is good to eat when you have a sore throat?

    Soup?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 17:43

    It seems the action's on Twitter.

    Better get to bed, then.

    Night, everyone.

    See ya ;)

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 17:43

    what is good to eat when you have a sore throat?

    Anything with lemon and or honey. BBQ is always a good one. Something that sticks to the throat.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 17:43

    Soup?

    thats not food!

  • Dank30/07/2009 at 17:48

    So wish I could take the accolade of spotting this first.

    http://twitter.com/BritsOnPole/status/2934195876

    Haha...hahahah...ha :-D

  • Janna30/07/2009 at 17:49

    what is good to eat when you have a sore throat?

    The best thing I've tried is vinegar & honey - one tablespoon of vinegar, two of honey in a mug with hot water. It tastes disgusting but it works for me. Have some ice cream & chocolate sauce on standby to eat afterwards to take away the taste

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 17:50

    So wish I could take the accolade of spotting this first.

    http://twitter.com/BritsOnPole/status/2934195876

    Haha...hahahah...ha :-D

    That's fantastic! Can't believe that's from the BBC!

  • Janna30/07/2009 at 17:50

    So wish I could take the accolade of spotting this first.

    Priceless

  • lou30/07/2009 at 17:55

    what is good to eat when you have a sore throat?

    warm things are always best :) maybe something like macaroni cheese?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 17:57

    warm things are always best :) maybe something like macaroni cheese?

    I had that for lunch.. it made me angry! hehe

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 17:58

    The best thing I've tried is vinegar & honey - one tablespoon of vinegar, two of honey in a mug with hot water. It tastes disgusting but it works for me. Have some ice cream & chocolate sauce on standby to eat afterwards to take away the taste

    This will make me throw up... i guarantee it!

  • Rich30/07/2009 at 17:58

    what is good to eat when you have a sore throat?

    Also soothe with honey mixed with almost anything - natural ant-bacteria.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 17:59

    I had that for lunch.. it made me angry! hehe

    oh... well.. have something warm.. it will help. in my experience cold things make it worse, but that could just be me :)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 18:00

    Also soothe with honey mixed with almost anything - natural ant-bacteria.

    hmm.. honey seems to be a popular choice... honey and icecream?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 18:00

    oh... well.. have something warm.. it will help. in my experience cold things make it worse, but that could just be me :)

    Ooops! i have been drinking smooties and diet coke all afternoon!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 18:05

    Pizza update - After over an hour of waiting we called them and they claim to have lost the order. We told them to forget it and we won't bother ordering from them again!

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 18:05

    Pizza update - After over an hour of waiting we called them and they claim to have lost the order. We told them to forget it and we won't bother ordering from them again!

    Grrrr....

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 18:09

    Pizza update - After over an hour of waiting we called them and they claim to have lost the order. We told them to forget it and we won't bother ordering from them again!

    How useless...

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 18:09

    Pizza update - After over an hour of waiting we called them and they claim to have lost the order. We told them to forget it and we won't bother ordering from them again!

    #blameschumacher

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 18:15

    I loooooooooooooove a good carvery, that was awesome :)

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 18:17

    I loooooooooooooove a good carvery, that was awesome :)

    Speaking of which, I am going to have some gold ol' fashion Kansas City style BBQ for lunch today. Will I regret it later? Yes. Will I have to walk anyother five miles to burn off what I gained? Yes. Will it be worth it? Absolutely!

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 18:20

    Speaking of which, I am going to have some gold ol' fashion Kansas City style BBQ for lunch today. Will I regret it later? Yes. Will I have to walk anyother five miles to burn off what I gained? Yes. Will it be worth it? Absolutely!

    Oh it's always worth it. I had a huge carvery lunch, turkey, yorkshires the size of boats, everything, drinks and a huge chocolate brownie sundae that combined will all weigh me down like an anchor from a boat but my god was all that worth it.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 18:26

    Lukeh! Race Pro DLC Pack 2 is out! Okayama! Estoril! WTCC 08! Formula Masters!!!! :D :D

    Oh, hi everyone. :D

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 18:27

    Lukeh! Race Pro DLC Pack 2 is out! Okayama! Estoril! WTCC 08! Formula Masters!!!! :D :D

    I don't have the points to go splashing out at the moment now, Spa is enough to keep me happy. Spa is absolutely immense on there by the way, the whole lap you feel like you're hanging on and you have to really push to the limit to get a good lap time on professional, it's incredible. Plus the minis in the wet at Spa = such joy :P

    Definitely get pack 3 if you can.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 18:33

    Wow it is quiet.

    This is going to be a long three weeks till Valencia.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 18:36

    You know, it doesn't actually feel all that different without Christine and MR C around,now it's a new day and the mood in the comments is a helluva lot better than yesterday. Hope they're having a nice relaxing time. :)

  • lou30/07/2009 at 18:41

    yay!! :D am very very happy at this...

    My phone rang.It was Felipe .I could not believe it.he sounded great and in good spirit .He is great..he deserves all the best

    Rubens on twitter

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 18:41

    yay!! :D am very very happy at this...

    My phone rang.It was Felipe .I could not believe it.he sounded great and in good spirit .He is great..he deserves all the best

    I just saw that too and am so happy to hear that! Just imagine the smile on Rubens face to hear Felipe phoning him, amazing news :D

    so so pleased at Felipe's recovery. Quite remarkable.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 18:42

    yay!! :D am very very happy at this...

    My phone rang.It was Felipe .I could not believe it.he sounded great and in good spirit .He is great..he deserves all the best

    That's the best news I've heard all day! :D My has been rather crap but now it's getting much better. I'm off with Dad to Snetterton on Sunday for the BTCC again, there's another Race Pro DLC pack making it 2 new ones and now this! YAY! :D

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 18:43

    yay!! :D am very very happy at this...

    My phone rang.It was Felipe .I could not believe it.he sounded great and in good spirit .He is great..he deserves all the best

    Whoohoo.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 18:44

    so so pleased at Felipe's recovery. Quite remarkable.

    At this rate, he'll be full recovered before season end and be back in that Ferrari before Abu Dhabi. Then Christine and Mr C's faith in F1 be restored again and everything will be back to how it should be! :D

  • lou30/07/2009 at 18:48

    At this rate, he'll be full recovered before season end and be back in that Ferrari before Abu Dhabi. Then Christine and Mr C's faith in F1 be restored again and everything will be back to how it should be! :D

    depends on how long it takes his skull injuries to be fixed really.. but it's all very encouraging :)

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 18:52

    Here's the pic of that SPC-related graffiti I found the other day, took it this morning :D

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-143

    And here's pics of the 2 mockups that Autosport did of possible cockpit safety solutions in this week's mag which I also took this morning.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-145

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-146

    Just in case you guys missed my comment about them this morning :)

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 18:53

    Here's the pic of that SPC-related graffiti I found the other day, took it this morning :D

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-143

    Hehehehehe.

    I do NOT like that first mockup. The second isn't so bad...

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 18:54

    I do NOT like that first mockup. The second isn't so bad...

    I actually think the second one is cool. Kinda going back to the 70s with that one

  • me30/07/2009 at 18:55

    i have a question for everyone (i'm not here btw), it probably deserves a poll, but what the heck. very simple question. if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    a) keep watching f1 regardless (nothing will stop you)

    b) throw in the towel (assuming things will go downhill)

    c) wait and see how todt changes f1 before deciding

    d) other

    e) i care not about f1 now, let alone in the future

    i'm not holding anyone to anything, just curious if everyone has a breaking point and where that might be.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 18:57

    i'm not holding anyone to anything, just curious if everyone has a breaking point and where that might be.

    a).

    I refuse to let the poltics or anything spoil my love for the sport and stop me watching. Yes it can be intolerable at times, and I can totally sympathise with needing a break but for me I can turn my back on such a sport after all the servcie it's provided for ym own entertainment. I'm honestly not sure what would stop me watching tbh.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 18:57

    I would probably go for option C. If he does anything too dumb we get GP1

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 18:58

    I refuse to let the poltics or anything spoil my love for the sport and stop me watching. Yes it can be intolerable at times, and I can totally sympathise with needing a break but for me I can turn my back on such a sport after all the servcie it's provided for ym own entertainment. I'm honestly not sure what would stop me watching tbh.

    Yup, what he said. A for me too. :)

  • lou30/07/2009 at 18:59

    i have a question for everyone (i'm not here btw), it probably deserves a poll, but what the heck. very simple question. if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    I'd say a)... cause i mean... Todt can't be president forever right?? plus i'm young, and haven't been following f1 for that many years, there has got to be another good point right?... i'll just hold out for that and watch the racing. Even if i don't follow it as intensively i'll still be here... f1 is a part of me now. if i do have a breaking point, i'm not sure i can see it right now.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 19:02

    f1 has got through rough patches before right? surely it can get through it again?

  • RG30/07/2009 at 19:02

    i'm not holding anyone to anything, just curious if everyone has a breaking point and where that might be.

    c)

    breaking point would probably be three races into the season when nothing has changed and instead of f1 going in a downward slope, it is falling down Mt. Everest with a jet attached

  • Monis from New Jersey30/07/2009 at 19:03

    I am a little disappointed to see the hissy fit thrown by the residents of Sidepod Towers. I agree that Schumi can be a divisive personality but I assumed that people would act like adults and continue with normal life. We constantly put up with so much negativity in the sport courtesy of the FIA or the FOM or anyone else for that matter, why should this be any different? Why so much hate for Schumacher? I was very surprised to find the crowd here to be so much anti-Schumacher.

    I for one thing that it would be exciting to see young drivers getting an opportunity to drive against him. I am most excited to see how Vettel performs as he is always touted as the next Schumacher. Lewis has admitted that he is excited to race against him. A lot more interest has been generated in the sport by casual fans. People in Germany and Italy are very excited. But looking at the reaction here it seems like this is the worst thing that could ever happen to the sport.

    I used to live in England in 1990 and I encountered similar resentment people had towards Diego Maradona. He is still my favorite player and his genius was lauded by all, given accolades such as "Goal of the Century". However in Britain I encountered that the other goal he scored in that match, the 1986 world cup game against England, was much more famous. People called him a cheat for the "Hand of God" goal and totally discounted the genius of the man every time he touched the ball. I recognized it as sour grapes by the English fans.

    Had it not been an Englishman, Damon Hill in 94, would people have the same opinions of him?

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 19:03

    f) seppuku

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 19:03

    f1 has got through rough patches before right? surely it can get through it again?

    I reckon the whole politics thing has taken it out of us but a solution is near. BMW pulling out and "him" returning hasn't helped but I do believe things are starting to turn upwards. Well, in my opinion anyway. :)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 19:04

    f1 has got through rough patches before right? surely it can get through it again?

    I doubt things could get much worse than the red car rule, but i could be wrong

  • RG30/07/2009 at 19:05

    I doubt things could get much worse than the red car rule, but i could be wrong

    The Formula Ferrari Championship replaces Formula 1, announced today...

  • lou30/07/2009 at 19:05

    I reckon the whole politics thing has taken it out of us but a solution is near. BMW pulling out and "him" returning hasn't helped but I do believe things are starting to turn upwards. Well, in my opinion anyway. :)

    i'm not saying it will get through it this season... but i think the sport will get through it... and atm all i can say is i'll follow it to the end if i have to.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 19:06

    i'm not saying it will get through it this season... but i think the sport will get through it... and atm all i can say is i'll follow it to the end if i have to.

    Same here. I've watched and supported F1 for too long to turn my back on it and I ain't starting any time soon regardless of what's gone on. I'd miss it too much!

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 19:07

    Had it not been an Englishman, Damon Hill in 94, would people have the same opinions of him?

    If that was his only instance of cheating then i might be able to see past it.

    Unfortunately its highly unlikely he has ever won a race fairly, so he should have a big asterisk next to his records like the drug cheats in baseball.

    Those guys dont see too popular, and neither should he

  • Monis from New Jersey30/07/2009 at 19:07

    (a) for me. No one man or team is bigger than the sport.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 19:10

    breaking point would probably be three races into the season when nothing has changed and instead of f1 going in a downward slope, it is falling down Mt. Everest with a jet attached

    though saying that, I'd probably find myself up at 4 in the morning watching the Japanese Grand Prix for 2011. So I'd probably not give up, just not be a hard-core fan.

  • me30/07/2009 at 19:11

    interesting stuff. i shall leave that question with anyone stopping and check back later.

  • Monis from New Jersey30/07/2009 at 19:11

    I agree there are more incidents, but that was the first and opinions on him were tainted after that, but it is a trend I have noticed that many of the other nationalities love the guy. Most people who don't are either British or Spanish.

    It is harsh to say that he ever won a race fairly. Comments like these are what I don't understand. True that he acted unethically at times but discounting his talent like that, that is uncalled for.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 19:12

    interesting stuff. i shall leave that question with anyone stopping and check back later.

    okay, have a lovely evening Mr C :)

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 19:13

    interesting stuff. i shall leave that question with anyone stopping and check back later.

    see ya sir.

  • Janna30/07/2009 at 19:17

    interesting stuff. i shall leave that question with anyone stopping and check back later.

    I would be a). I'll still watch the races, I have for a long time. At the moment I'm more interested in everything that's going on than I have been in the past, a lot of that is due to SPC and the excellent output from here.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 19:18

    It is harsh to say that he ever won a race fairly. Comments like these are what I don't understand. True that he acted unethically at times but discounting his talent like that, that is uncalled for.

    Steven would probably answer this far better than me but i will do my best.

    Putting all morality about dangerous driving, raming, and ridiculously unfair arangements with team mates...

    At beneton the car he drove is now accepted to behave been illegal, with all sorts of technological advantages hidden inside it, which the FIA stangely decided to ignore. He had to leave the team when the rumours got too strong.

    At ferrari we now know the team had a ridiculous arrangement with the FIA whereby if their rival teams came up with a technical innovation that gave tham an advantage Ferrari could veto it and have it banned. Hence technologies like Mclarens breaking system, Renaults mass damper were banned immediately whereas Ferrari inventions were generally permitted, at least until the end of the season.

    As for talent, he has never raced a team mate on level terms so we dont know...

  • James30/07/2009 at 19:22

    I vaguely remember Mr C telling me to shout when I came back, but shouting doesn't really work comment wise but I'm back and I have internet access again. Having no internet was intresting over the last weekend with GP, I'll blog about it when I get a chance.

    for those who don't want to read a lot, Hey! :D

    Awww! :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXGBjwNyOMY

    Good to see :D

  • RG30/07/2009 at 19:24

    for those who don't want to read a lot, Hey! :D

    If there was a time to come back at its worst. But anyways, welcome back sir, nice to see you all well and happy.

    mr and mrs c on holiday, since our 'friend' returned.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 19:24

    for those who don't want to read a lot, Hey! :D

    Hi james

  • Alex Andronov30/07/2009 at 19:24

    I refuse to let the poltics or anything spoil my love for the sport and stop me watching. Yes it can be intolerable at times, and I can totally sympathise with needing a break but for me I can turn my back on such a sport after all the servcie it's provided for ym own entertainment. I'm honestly not sure what would stop me watching tbh.

    Hear hear!

    I'm with you Lukeh!

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 19:28

    I refuse to let the poltics or anything spoil my love for the sport and stop me watching. Yes it can be intolerable at times, and I can totally sympathise with needing a break but for me I can turn my back on such a sport after all the servcie it's provided for ym own entertainment. I'm honestly not sure what would stop me watching tbh.

    Hey if we survived 20 years of Max and Bernie destroying the sport, might as well watch it till the end.

  • Jarrett in CT30/07/2009 at 19:28

    I concur as well.

  • James30/07/2009 at 19:30

    mr and mrs c on holiday, since our 'friend' returned.

    I noticed, sad to see, there is a lot of time between now and they will start to suffer with sidepodwithdrawal at some point but on a serrious note we have no way of knowing how good or bad he'll be all it does is increase the intrest in a race which was otherwise looking a bit dull with Renault banned meaning no Alonso.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 19:34

    Am quite excited about BTCC at Snetterton this weekend. Pitwalk is during the lunch hour and I'm NOT missing that. Plus my dad's getting an MSV concession pass. What would that be exactly? Just the same as a free ticket?

  • RG30/07/2009 at 19:36

    Am quite excited about BTCC at Snetterton this weekend. Pitwalk is during the lunch hour and I'm NOT missing that. Plus my dad's getting an MSV concession pass. What would that be exactly? Just the same as a free ticket?

    Probably just a cheaper ticket.

    Have fun with it. We ended up having our lunch hour between BTCC race 2 and the Clio's, well, miss the start of the clios. Was around 3ish. Brought picnic, now I wanna go again.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 19:38

    Have fun with it. We ended up having our lunch hour between BTCC race 2 and the Clio's, well, miss the start of the clios. Was around 3ish. Brought picnic, now I wanna go again.

    This one's between 12:35 and 1:35 with the pitwalk at 12:40 lasting half an hour. I'm so rooting for the Chevys this weekend :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 19:40

    i have a question for everyone (i'm not here btw), it probably deserves a poll, but what the heck. very simple question. if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    a) keep watching f1 regardless (nothing will stop you)

    b) throw in the towel (assuming things will go downhill)

    c) wait and see how todt changes f1 before deciding

    d) other

    e) i care not about f1 now, let alone in the future

    i'm not holding anyone to anything, just curious if everyone has a breaking point and where that might be.

    (c) - with the caveat that if F1 goes downhill I will just follow another series...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:11

    i have a question for everyone (i'm not here btw), it probably deserves a poll, but what the heck. very simple question. if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    a) keep watching f1 regardless (nothing will stop you)

    b) throw in the towel (assuming things will go downhill)

    c) wait and see how todt changes f1 before deciding

    d) other

    e) i care not about f1 now, let alone in the future

    i'm not holding anyone to anything, just curious if everyone has a breaking point and where that might be.

    Keep watching because Bernie can't go on forever and as soon as he goes things will change. I have survived this long with Bernie and Max in power so Todt is not going to drive me away and neither is Schumacher.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:12

    I am back from outside btw. I assume nothing worse has happened in the last two hours

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:17

    #blameschumacher

    My local radio station has picked this up but they are blaming Same Difference

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:20

    For Mr C. Mark Hughes's column said absolutely nothing.

    He waffled on about how the accident only happened because the spring behaved like a spring and bounced for a while then waffled on abut randomness. It literally said nothing.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:21

    I am back from outside btw. I assume nothing worse has happened in the last two hours

    Hi! did you have a nice time? nothing worse has happened that i'm aware of... i spilt a cup of tea, and my ipod ran out of battery... that's about it :)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:23

    Hi! did you have a nice time? nothing worse has happened that i'm aware of... i spilt a cup of tea, and my ipod ran out of battery... that's about it :)

    Thankyou, just reminded me my lemsip was going cold...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:23

    Hi! did you have a nice time? nothing worse has happened that i'm aware of... i spilt a cup of tea, and my ipod ran out of battery... that's about it :)

    That is a lot better than yesterday. I only went to buy and read an Autosport and the papers. Nothing very excitting.

    Got back in in time for Mock the Week. I seem to write a lot of sentences with double words in them now. I am sure I haven't always done that

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:24

    Thankyou, just reminded me my lemsip was going cold...

    Get ice cream. That will help your sore throat. Chocloate is also good.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:24

    Thankyou, just reminded me my lemsip was going cold...

    lemsip = good. cold = bad... well for sore throats ;)

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 20:25

    I can't stop listening to Take on Me by Aha tonight, and other awesome 80's song. I have a sudden urge to grow a perm and buy legwarmers.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 20:25

    Thankyou, just reminded me my lemsip was going cold...

    Are rennies the colds one?

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:26

    Get ice cream. That will help your sore throat. Chocloate is also good.

    nooo ice cream = bad :( i had ice cream once when i had a bad throat, it didn't end well...

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:26

    Get ice cream. That will help your sore throat. Chocloate is also good.

    I have chocolate icecream... ate it out the tub, then got brainfreeze...

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:27

    He waffled on about how the accident only happened because the spring behaved like a spring and bounced for a while then waffled on abut randomness. It literally said nothing.

    cheers, i notice autosport (AUTOSPORT) haven't had common courtesy to reply to my forum post either. apparently dank cares more than they do.

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 20:27

    Hi all. How are you? (leaving 'The Shoe' aside...)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:27

    #sidepodspace

    Just saw on twitter that the next shuttle launch is scheduled for August 25th. Hopefully this one won't take half a dozen attempts

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:27

    Are rennies the colds one?

    I think rennies are for heartburn?

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:27

    That is a lot better than yesterday. I only went to buy and read an Autosport and the papers. Nothing very excitting.

    ahhh i see. that reminds me.. i bought f1 racing yesterday but haven't had chance to read it.

    Got back in in time for Mock the Week. I seem to write a lot of sentences with double words in them now. I am sure I haven't always done that

    oh no! i forgot Mock the week.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 20:27

    Are rennies the colds one?

    Ignore me. I'm thinking of lemsip. :(

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:27

    Are rennies the colds one?

    They are heartburn or indigestion or something.

    Lemsip is for colds but has paracetemol in it

  • RG30/07/2009 at 20:28

    nooo ice cream = bad :( i had ice cream once when i had a bad throat, it didn't end well...

    I really shoulda been here Monday.

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 20:28

    Just saw on twitter that the next shuttle launch is scheduled for August 25th. Hopefully this one won't take half a dozen attempts

    never underestimate NASA... ;-)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:28

    cheers, i notice autosport (AUTOSPORT) haven't had common courtesy to reply to my forum post either. apparently dank cares more than they do.

    Franck got a small mention about his perforance in F3 a few years ago. Apparently he raced once in Britain in his rookie season and was really quick

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:29

    never underestimate NASA... ;-)

    I never do.

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:33

    (c) - with the caveat that if F1 goes downhill I will just follow another series...

    Keep watching because Bernie can't go on forever and as soon as he goes things will change. I have survived this long with Bernie and Max in power so Todt is not going to drive me away and neither is Schumacher.

    cheers. i think this is where we differ so much. even if shooey fails the medical and alonso gets to drive, i'd still call f1 quits if todt got the... nod.

    if ari got it though, i'd hold out for change.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:35

    Hi all. How are you? (leaving 'The Shoe' aside...)

    i'm alright, head is feeling a little fuzzy, but other than that nothing to complain about, how are you?

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:37

    cheers. i think this is where we differ so much. even if shooey fails the medical and alonso gets to drive, i'd still call f1 quits if todt got the... nod.

    if ari got it though, i'd hold out for change.

    whatever happens i hope you and Mrs C wont totally disappear, even is spc is no more. you're two very amazing people, i'd miss not talking to you tbh :)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:37

    cheers. i think this is where we differ so much. even if shooey fails the medical and alonso gets to drive, i'd still call f1 quits if todt got the... nod.

    I completely understand, but i think f1 has sorted itself out now, if the teams dont like the way it is being run, they can leave. I dont think Todt can interfere even if he wanted to. I was one of the most paranoid people about him taking power, but i dont think it matters any more...

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 20:38

    i'm alright, head is feeling a little fuzzy, but other than that nothing to complain about, how are you?

    recovering from a 24+ hs bus travel to my parents' home, ready to start a week of vacations

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:39

    I completely understand, but i think f1 has sorted itself out now, if the teams dont like the way it is being run, they can leave. I dont think Todt can interfere even if he wanted to. I was one of the most paranoid people about him taking power, but i dont think it matters any more...

    i think it'll be the start of something awful. or at the least the continuation of something awful.

    no good could possibly come of it.

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:40

    whatever happens i hope you and Mrs C wont totally disappear, even is spc is no more. you're two very amazing people, i'd miss not talking to you tbh :)

    we have a greenscreen and we're not afraid to use it?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:41

    no good could possibly come of it.

    Maybe, but I see it as being a bit like adopting a teenager.

    His authority is there, but only theoretically

    If he overstepped you loose control completely

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:42

    If he overstepped you loose control completely

    you're nuts! but fair enough. this isn't a debate i care to win.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:42

    we have a greenscreen and we're not afraid to use it?

    This is exciting, have you considered using it for a liveshow?

  • James30/07/2009 at 20:42

    we have a greenscreen and we're not afraid to use it?

    pandapodcast? :P

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:43

    This is exciting, have you considered using it for a liveshow?

    it's on the list.

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:43

    pandapodcast? :P

    !!!

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:43

    you're nuts! but fair enough. this isn't a debate i care to win.

    hehe, just dont send me any! :D

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:43

    it's on the list.

    lou ♥ 's the list :D

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 20:43

    we have a greenscreen and we're not afraid to use it?

    Sidepodtravels, mrs c and a mysterious human size panda pop in random parts of the world as if it were magic.

    Next week - egypt.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:43

    pandapodcast? :P

    is that on the list too?

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:44

    is that on the list too?

    ...

    ...

    ...

    no

  • RG30/07/2009 at 20:44

    hehe, just dont send me any! :D

    you don't?

    phew

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:44

    Next week - egypt.

    outside??

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 20:45

    Sidepodtravels, mrs c and a mysterious human size panda pop in random parts of the world as if it were magic.

    it sounds like the gnome from 'Amelie'...

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:45

    no

    oh... is this like the sidepodparty when you said no but meant yes? :P

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:45

    outside??

    I think the greenscreen could make outside permanently redundant!

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:45

    oh... is this like the sidepodparty when you said no but meant yes? :P

    no

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:45

    outside??

    you said you had a green screen? hehe

  • James30/07/2009 at 20:46

    outside??

    No outside involved, if i'm thinking correctly, the place would be on the greenscreen ;)

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 20:46

    outside??

    you need to know some good, beautiful landscape, sunny outsides :-)

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 20:46

    No outside involved, if i'm thinking correctly, the place would be on the greenscreen ;)

    See these guys get it!

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:47

    See these guys get it!

    you're all way ahead of me.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:47

    you need to know some good, beautiful landscape, sunny outsides :-)

    We could get people around the world to send you different vistas to use on it!

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 20:48

    you're all way ahead of me.

    Aww.. you're allowed to be, you're on a break :D

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:48

    no

    oh.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 20:49

    you're all way ahead of me.

    Aww.. you're allowed to be, you're on a break :D

    That makes NO sense reading back. I dunno what you're allowed to be in the context of the quote it related to actually...

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:50

    We could get people around the world to send you different vistas to use on it!

    ok. have to go again now, but, i think we need future topic suggestions.

    stuff we can cover instead of f1. sidepod need not be applicable.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:50

    Had it not been an Englishman, Damon Hill in 94, would people have the same opinions of him?

    First I am not English. 2nd to 99th Schumacher rammed Jacques Villeneuve at Jerez and Villeneuve was not English. Schumacher pushed Alonso on to the grass at close to 200 mph on the Hangar straight at Silverstone and he is not English. Schumacher tried to put Hakkinen on the grass at Spa at nearly 200mph and he is not English Schumacher chopped all sorts of drivers at the start of races and pushed a few of them including his non-English brother into the pitwall.

    Schumacher drove all sorts of illegal cars including a Benetton with illegal launch control that took about 15 controls to be used in sequesce by the driver to activate it.

    Schumacher insisted on number one status and would not allow a team mate to challenge him. Eddie Irvine used to talk about getting the phone call to tell him he had brake problems so that he would pull over to let Schumacher past. Barrichello had to give up several wins including at the 5th round of the championship one year.

    When Johnny Herbert (who is English) joined re-Benetton he was instantly faster than Schumacher and was told he would not get access to Schumacher;s data but Schumacher would still get his.

    Schumacher had diploamtic immunity from the FIA in his Ferrari days and now we know of the back door deals.

    I literally could go on all night with stuff likethis but to be honest I am sick of it and he has only been back 24 hours.

    He may come back and race against the young driver and if he were to win we would have to put up with Schumacher fans saying how this proves he is the greatest ever but if he gets blown away they will say it is because he is out of practise.

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:50

    *i swear he needs to do a guest post*

  • James30/07/2009 at 20:50

    ok. have to go again now, but, i think we need future topic suggestions.

    someone should wiki that ;)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:51

    *i swear he needs to do a guest post*

    Use it! :P

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 20:51

    stuff we can cover instead of f1. sidepod need not be applicable.

    sidepod+something is always a good name for everything :-)

    bye me

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 20:51

    I think despite what we think of Todt, we won't know what he'll be like as FIA president until he was in the job and announced what he intended to do. Not that I want him to, of course. I'm still firmly on the Ari side.

    Mind you, there's always sim F1 racing to consider if you have enough of the real thing. No politics, no worry of drivers getting killed and there ACTUALLY is racing and overtaking and such. Formula Sim Racing is the best. It's very competitive. :D

    SimSidepodcast? Actually, that doesn't have the same ring as the original. Best leave it then :P

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:52

    stuff we can cover instead of f1. sidepod need not be applicable.

    SidepodHotAirBallonRacesOfThe19thCentury?

  • me30/07/2009 at 20:52

    SimSidepodcast? Actually, that doesn't have the same ring as the original. Best leave it then :P

    you haven't seen christine play...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:52

    Steven would probably answer this far better than me but i will do my best.

    You pretty much covered it Nick

  • RG30/07/2009 at 20:52

    SidepodHotAirBallonRacesOfThe19thCentury?

    I want a hot air ballon race now.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 20:53

    you haven't seen christine play...

    :D

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:53

    You pretty much covered it Nick

    hehe, cheers... didnt want you to miss out on the chance for a swing though ;)

  • Rachel30/07/2009 at 20:53

    Evening all.

    if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    c) there is always the possibility that the supposed stability of the new Concorde would reduce the politicing, whoever is in office. Or it could all go horrendously wrong, but I'm not one for second guessing the future.

  • James30/07/2009 at 20:55

    if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    f) i'll stick my fingers in my ears and pretend politics doesn't exsist, after all I am a F1 Loonie.(cheap blog plug :D)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 20:56

    Evening all.

    Hey, have you recovered from the return? or is it too soon?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:56

    pandapodcast? :P

    Did you get Christine a panda for baby panda Thursday

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 20:57

    you haven't seen christine play...

    I'll show you a typical start to an FSR race and let you make your own judgements.

    *apologies if the commentator seems really annoying*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PzoobCAzP8

    Actually, not all FSR starts are as manic as that. Well, not those that I've seen anyway. Also, with 5-tier league system it would get confusing keeping track of drivers and teams.

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 20:57

    He may come back and race against the young driver and if he were to win we would have to put up with Schumacher fans saying how this proves he is the greatest ever but if he gets blown away they will say it is because he is out of practise.

    And yet, you have to recognise that there is people who, even knowing all that, respect him as one of the greatest F1 drivers of all times (myself included). I won't try to change your mind about it, but each one has is own reason to like, respect or hate the man.

  • James30/07/2009 at 20:58

    *apologies if the commentator seems really annoying*

    better or worse than Legard?

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 20:58

    better or worse than Legard?

    Hmm, I say equal, if not MAYBE a little better.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 20:59

    I'll show you a typical start to an FSR race and let you make your own judgements.

    Heeey, I could pass off as any one of them.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 20:59

    ok. have to go again now, but, i think we need future topic suggestions.

    see ya later Mr C :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 20:59

    *i swear he needs to do a guest post*

    No.

    Besides what's the point of a guest post while you are threatening to takemy toy away?

    I am not meant to be here. I am supposed to be on twitter slagging Australian media types.

    BTW check out @gmmf1 It is not mine but Giggles and I were searching earlier and found it.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:00

    I think despite what we think of Todt, we won't know what he'll be like as FIA president until he was in the job and announced what he intended to do. Not that I want him to, of course. I'm still firmly on the Ari side.

    Bernie is calling the shots for him so he will be like Max and do what he is told

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:01

    No.

    what if we asked a series of questions, you answered them and then Mr C put it up as a blog post?....so that's a guest post of sorts?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:02

    you haven't seen christine play...

    I'll show you a typical start to an FSR race and let you make your own judgements.

    *apologies if the commentator seems really annoying*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PzoobCAzP8

    Actually, not all FSR starts are as manic as that. Well, not those that I've seen anyway. Also, with 5-tier league system it would get confusing keeping track of drivers and teams.

    That's not commentating - that's screaming down a microphone...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:03

    And yet, you have to recognise that there is people who, even knowing all that, respect him as one of the greatest F1 drivers of all times (myself included). I won't try to change your mind about it, but each one has is own reason to like, respect or hate the man.

    The problem I have with Schumacher fans is that they are blind to his faults then point to his results as proof of how great he was. The fact that so many of those should have been illegal and so many people who should have challenged him didn't for a range of reasons is ignored.

  • Rachel30/07/2009 at 21:03

    Hey, have you recovered from the return? or is it too soon?

    I actually had my laptop confiscated from me last night by my flatmate, that is how annoyed I was. But the edge has come off, especially with the news that Massa might actually be able to race again this season.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 21:04

    I think despite what we think of Todt, we won't know what he'll be like as FIA president until he was in the job and announced what he intended to do. Not that I want him to, of course. I'm still firmly on the Ari side.

    Is there anyone on Todt's side outside of Mosley?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:04

    I actually had my laptop confiscated from me last night by my flatmate, that is how annoyed I was. But the edge has come off, especially with the news that Massa might actually be able to race again this season.

    Oh dear... Loud Angry Typing?

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 21:04

    i have a question for everyone (i’m not here btw), it probably deserves a poll, but what the heck. very simple question. if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    a) keep watching f1 regardless (nothing will stop you)

    I've been watching F1 since the early 90's, I'll be watching it at least until the next early 90's

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:05

    Is there anyone on Todt's side outside of Mosley?

    The UK's MSA and the New Zealand body...

  • me30/07/2009 at 21:05

    Besides what's the point of a guest post while you are threatening to takemy toy away?

    sorry about that. doohickey will live on somewhere. i love working on it. it's pretty much the only thing that's kept me going since the fia banned testing and restricted straight-line running.

    BTW check out @gmmf1 It is not mine but Giggles and I were searching earlier and found it.

    shall do, although i\m avoiding twitter too atm.

    *damnaddictiverefreshingthing*

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:05

    That's not commentating - that's screaming down a microphone...

    But that's what Legard does anyway, so really it's no different :D

  • Rachel30/07/2009 at 21:07

    Oh dear... Loud Angry Typing?

    yeah, and the fact I started ranting at him (he has no idea about f1, and didn't get the anger) decided the best solution was beer+a film (rocknrolla). He was probably right.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:07

    what if we asked a series of questions, you answered them and then Mr C put it up as a blog post?....so that's a guest post of sorts?

    I am trying not to think of Schumacher. If someone has a question I will answer it but I don't want to do a guest post because I will have to spend a lot of time on it and all it will do is attract the provisional wing of the Schumacher fan club who will start a flame war based on the phrase - but Michael wouldn't do that-

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 21:08

    Is there anyone on Todt's side outside of Mosley?

    I'm not in Todt's side, but I'm 50-50 at the moment if that counts... Basically because of the political extraction of Ari and his ideas towards green technology (at least, from what I've read until now)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:08

    I actually had my laptop confiscated from me last night by my flatmate, that is how annoyed I was. But the edge has come off, especially with the news that Massa might actually be able to race again this season.

    You were deprived of internet access?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:08

    Is there anyone on Todt's side outside of Mosley?

    Bernie, Bin Sulayem and a load of clubs that receive money from the FIA

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:09

    I forgot to post this yesterday..

    If you liked Microsoft's Natal,Sony have unveiled their variant of it which should be available at the start of next year and use existing hardware

  • James30/07/2009 at 21:09

    I'm not in Todt's side, but I'm 50-50 at the moment if that counts... Basically because of the political extraction of Ari and his ideas towards green technology (at least, from what I've read until now)

    I don't particulary care who runs the sport, I just want there to be a sport.

    You were deprived of internet access?

    I've had no internet for a while as well I enjoyed the last GP a lot because of it.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:10

    I am trying not to think of Schumacher. If someone has a question I will answer it but I don't want to do a guest post because I will have to spend a lot of time on it and all it will do is attract the provisional wing of the Schumacher fan club who will start a flame war based on the phrase - but Michael wouldn't do that-

    okay, that's fair enough.

    Should we try talk about nice happy things more then? like how positive Massa's recovery is atm seeing as the accident was less than 7 days ago? or how i managed to get all the way up to 60mph today in my driving lesson... or how panda's are really cute? or how awesome this community is? :D

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:10

    Bernie, Bin Sulayem and a load of clubs that receive money from the FIA

    are you sure about those 2? I haven't heard them say anything, and i think they will both support the winner at the 11th Hour

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 21:11

    If you liked Microsoft's Natal,Sony have unveiled their variant of it which should be available at the start of next year and use existing hardware

    Sony have another completely bigger thing coming asides from EyePet that they unveiled at E3 the day after Natal was uncovered, and is similar to Natal. eyePet simply utilising the PS Eye in a way nothing else has realy used properly yet.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:12

    Sony have another completely bigger thing coming asides from EyePet that they unveiled at E3 the day after Natal was uncovered, and is similar to Natal. eyePet simply utilising the PS Eye in a way nothing else has realy used properly yet.

    The wands? They aae also part of eye toy... there was some more info on them the other day too

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 21:13

    okay, that's fair enough.

    Should we try talk about nice happy things more then? like how positive Massa's recovery is atm seeing as the accident was less than 7 days ago? or how i managed to get all the way up to 60mph today in my driving lesson... or how panda's are really cute? or how awesome this community is? :D

    :D good start lou :D

    Massa's recovering is a really good thing. I won't even rule out him racing at Valencia

  • James30/07/2009 at 21:13

    If you liked Microsoft's Natal,Sony have unveiled their variant of it which should be available at the start of next year and use existing hardware

    That is sooo cool :D

  • Rachel30/07/2009 at 21:13

    You were deprived of internet access?

    I was. It was hard, but tbh not dwelling on that issue constantly helped reduce the annoyance quite a bit.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 21:14

    The wands? They aae also part of eye toy... there was some more info on them the other day too

    Yeah the wand... things. They're supposed to be like, the Wii controllers but a lot better. I dunno, I can't see what use it is in terms of innovation to be honest when the Wii's already done that and now they're obviously looking at where Microsoft are trying to innovate (what a strange thing to say) and working from that too. It looks impressive but I'm not won over by it.

  • Dan Brunell30/07/2009 at 21:14

    I am trying not to think of Schumacher. If someone has a question I will answer it but I don't want to do a guest post because I will have to spend a lot of time on it and all it will do is attract the provisional wing of the Schumacher fan club who will start a flame war based on the phrase - but Michael wouldn't do that-

    Like I sad, all we need is take a deep breath and sing this song.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:14

    :D good start lou :D

    Massa's recovering is a really good thing. I won't even rule out him racing at Valencia

    depends on his skull damage though doesn't it? i'm just thrilled he seems to be recovering well.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:14

    Just managed to change my billing info on Microsoft so it now renews my XBOX Live subscription on my new card, and I can get the DLC packs for Race Pro! YAY! :D

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 21:14

    okay, that's fair enough.

    Should we try talk about nice happy things more then? like how positive Massa's recovery is atm seeing as the accident was less than 7 days ago? or how i managed to get all the way up to 60mph today in my driving lesson... or how panda's are really cute? or how awesome this community is? :D

    I like this idea. :P

  • RG30/07/2009 at 21:15

    okay, that's fair enough.

    Should we try talk about nice happy things more then? like how positive Massa's recovery is atm seeing as the accident was less than 7 days ago? or how i managed to get all the way up to 60mph today in my driving lesson... or how panda's are really cute? or how awesome this community is? :D

    Sky Sports News has Jenson on. Won't say why cos we are having a happy atmosphere.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:16

    Yeah the wand... things. They're supposed to be like, the Wii controllers but a lot better. I dunno, I can't see what use it is in terms of innovation to be honest when the Wii's already done that and now they're obviously looking at where Microsoft are trying to innovate (what a strange thing to say) and working from that too. It looks impressive but I'm not won over by it.

    They have been working on them for a while, they use the eye toy to pick up the wands and reference them in 3D. It is just as impressive as NATAL, but it was presented to technicaly so most people kinda got lost on them.

    They EyePet has been delayed so many times, it was supposed to come out just after launch...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:16

    I am trying not to think of Schumacher. If someone has a question I will answer it but I don't want to do a guest post because I will have to spend a lot of time on it and all it will do is attract the provisional wing of the Schumacher fan club who will start a flame war based on the phrase - but Michael wouldn't do that-

    Like I sad, all we need is take a deep breath and sing this song.

    Can't access it :(

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 21:16

    depends on his skull damage though doesn't it? i'm just thrilled he seems to be recovering well.

    I suppose. On the careful side, he will miss Valencia and Spa, but yet... :-)

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:17

    Sky Sports News has Jenson on. Won't say why cos we are having a happy atmosphere.

    Jenson!! yay!! :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:17

    okay, that's fair enough.

    Should we try talk about nice happy things more then? like how positive Massa's recovery is atm seeing as the accident was less than 7 days ago? or how i managed to get all the way up to 60mph today in my driving lesson... or how panda's are really cute? or how awesome this community is? :D

    You went how fast? I must have had at least 20 lessons before I was allowed to go that fast.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:18

    yeah, and the fact I started ranting at him (he has no idea about f1, and didn't get the anger) decided the best solution was beer+a film (rocknrolla). He was probably right.

    Beer is always good...

    I dont feel so bad about it anymore... must be the Lemsips!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:18

    are you sure about those 2? I haven't heard them say anything, and i think they will both support the winner at the 11th Hour

    Todt is Max's choice of successor and has been groomed for the job for years. They all worked together to ensure Ferrari's success. It is absolutely certain that Bernie will want Todt in the job.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:19

    depends on his skull damage though doesn't it? i'm just thrilled he seems to be recovering well.

    It's all down to the fractures. The brain sounds like it is going to recover quite quickly

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 21:20

    You went how fast? I must have had at least 20 lessons before I was allowed to go that fast.

    My dad made me drive at over 40mph on my first lesson (he taught me to drive). When I reached the maximum speed I could manage, he said "you don't like that do you?" and then "you see, there's no reason to go any faster."

    At the time he was right, of course.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 21:20

    They EyePet has been delayed so many times, it was supposed to come out just after launch...

    Oh dear oh dear :P

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 21:21

    My dad made me drive at over 40mph on my first lesson (he taught me to drive). When I reached the maximum speed I could manage, he said "you don't like that do you?" and then "you see, there's no reason to go any faster."

    Excellent

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 21:21

    Steven, can you bringme up to speed with the GMM situation? Been reading twitter, but don't really want to wade through the comments.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:21

    At the time he was right, of course.

    And now?

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:21

    DLC packs have been bought and just to wait for them to download. This could take a while...

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 21:22

    And now?

    I'm not answering that on the grounds that it may incriminate me.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:22

    You went how fast? I must have had at least 20 lessons before I was allowed to go that fast.

    well... erm i ventured out of the small little housing estate today, driving on main roads is scary... but by the time i was in another larger housing estate i was so full of shock/ relief doing a 3 point turn and other manoeuvres seemed nicer... then i drove myself home... and i live on a main road so it was 60mph all the way home :D ehehe well... it was 60... almost *cough* 65 until i noticed... :D speed is fun.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 21:22

    DLC packs have been bought and just to wait for them to download. This could take a while...

    I can't wait to see your opinion on Spa. I seriously am mightily impressed by how good it is.

  • RG30/07/2009 at 21:22

    DLC packs have been bought and just to wait for them to download. This could take a while...

    Thats why we are here.

    Cept me, I need sleep. I might, shock horror, do something, like shock horror, go downstairs tomorrow.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:23

    I can't wait to see your opinion on Spa. I seriously am mightily impressed by how good it is.

    With a wheel, it will be epic :D

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:23

    It's all down to the fractures. The brain sounds like it is going to recover quite quickly

    he can remember a lot already can't he? and he seems happy from what rubens said.. i'm sure f1 fitness has something to do with the quick recovery but it's great to see :)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:23
  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:23

    Camaro sounds soooooooo goooooooood

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnUkArMbmVo

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:24

    Steven, can you bringme up to speed with the GMM situation? Been reading twitter, but don't really want to wade through the comments.

    Mr GMM's lawyer sent a cease and desist letter to sidepodcast. Apparently we have not to slag him off any more. Not that there is anything legally enforceable but we have taken it on to the neutral ground of twitter to see what they (dorry he does). You would think Global Media Whateveritis could afford a lawyer who could spell.

    To be honest i think the letter is from his mother rather than his lawyer.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:26

    Todt is Max's choice of successor and has been groomed for the job for years. They all worked together to ensure Ferrari's success. It is absolutely certain that Bernie will want Todt in the job.

    I dont think so... It could loose him his position, he doesnt want the teams to turn against him and let them go off on their own with CVC...

  • RG30/07/2009 at 21:26

    Hairpin over Ferrari world

    Am I the only one thinking that looks like a crab?

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:27

    My dad made me drive at over 40mph on my first lesson (he taught me to drive). When I reached the maximum speed I could manage, he said "you don't like that do you?" and then "you see, there's no reason to go any faster."

    :) at the beginning of my first lesson parked cars scared me... doing 40mph would have given me a heart attack. but at the end of my 3rd lesson i can't wait for tomorrow when i get to drive myself home again from my lesson :) and tackle more of the crazy roads in our town... he said i may get the chance to conquer our ring road (which is manic) and our 'shared space scheme' which is a part of that...

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:27

    I just tried to find the comment re their lawyer and I see the section ofthe letter that had been quoted has been redacted by request. Probably realised how stupid and childish it made them look.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:27

    Am I the only one thinking that looks like a crab?

    I am a bit worried, those pics are about a month or so old.... It might be ready but it is going to be messy...

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 21:27

    YAS Pics!

    When they do big things, they do it BIG

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:28

    he can remember a lot already can't he? and he seems happy from what rubens said.. i'm sure f1 fitness has something to do with the quick recovery but it's great to see :)

    He can remember everything bar the time around the accident. He was speaking three languages yeaterday or the day before and he is walking and showered himself today. It really is fabulous compared to what I expected.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:29

    He can remember everything bar the time around the accident. He was speaking three languages yeaterday or the day before and he is walking and showered himself today. It really is fabulous compared to what I expected.

    plus he rang Rubens! :D goo massa and his awesome recovery speed :)

  • James30/07/2009 at 21:29

    He can remember everything bar the time around the accident. He was speaking three languages yeaterday or the day before and he is walking and showered himself today. It really is fabulous compared to what I expected.

    So he doesn't remember qualifying at all then?

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 21:29

    I am a bit worried, those pics are about a month or so old.... It might be ready but it is going to be messy...

    Don't worry. They have money.

  • Rachel30/07/2009 at 21:29

    he can remember a lot already can't he? and he seems happy from what rubens said.. i'm sure f1 fitness has something to do with the quick recovery but it's great to see :)

    They said he can remember pretty much everything except the actual accident - including his q2 position! (link)

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 21:30

    Steven, can you bringme up to speed with the GMM situation? Been reading twitter, but don't really want to wade through the comments.

    Hi everyone. I'm doing the reverse at present, reading comments but haven't done Twitter yet.

    Mr GMM's lawyer sent a cease and desist letter to sidepodcast. Apparently we have not to slag him off any more. Not that there is anything legally enforceable but we have taken it on to the neutral ground of twitter to see what they (dorry he does). You would think Global Media Whateveritis could afford a lawyer who could spell.

    I look forward to reading the tweets with interest. If one person does it they are going to get threatened. I think if lots of us do it they will be in an... interesting... situation. Will take this to Twitter when I get there.

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 21:30

    Mr GMM's lawyer sent a cease and desist letter to sidepodcast. Apparently we have not to slag him off any more. Not that there is anything legally enforceable but we have taken it on to the neutral ground of twitter to see what they (dorry he does). You would think Global Media Whateveritis could afford a lawyer who could spell.

    So this is a letter from a lawyer in Australia? Written to a UK based organisation who hosts their content in the USA. So totally unenforcable, especially as Mr GMM himself admits that not all their stories are accurate.

    (waves to GMM lawyer)

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:30

    So he doesn't remember qualifying at all then?

    he remembers everything up to the accident i believe. he remembers what position he was before the accident i believe so i assume he remembers quali

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:30

    My dad made me drive at over 40mph on my first lesson (he taught me to drive). When I reached the maximum speed I could manage, he said "you don't like that do you?" and then "you see, there's no reason to go any faster."

    First time i drove i was with my dad, off road in deep dunes in a V8 rangerover. I think i learned more about controlling power and speed doing that than all the lessons i had to pay a fortune for in the UK

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:31

    I dont think so... It could loose him his position, he doesnt want the teams to turn against him and let them go off on their own with CVC...

    Sorry Nick but there is no doubt. Bernie is more interested in the commercial rights than keeping the teams happy and he has managed to control the situation with the teams during the whole time Max has been there. There is absolutely no doubt Todt is his choice although he won't say anything until the result is announced just in case.

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 21:31

    I just tried to find the comment re their lawyer and I see the section ofthe letter that had been quoted has been redacted by request. Probably realised how stupid and childish it made them look.

    The whole thing should be on drop.io

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:32

    :) at the beginning of my first lesson parked cars scared me... doing 40mph would have given me a heart attack. but at the end of my 3rd lesson i can't wait for tomorrow when i get to drive myself home again from my lesson :) and tackle more of the crazy roads in our town... he said i may get the chance to conquer our ring road (which is manic) and our 'shared space scheme' which is a part of that...

    You have more lessons this week? You will be doing 90 by the end of that one at your current rate of progress.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:33

    So he doesn't remember qualifying at all then?

    I am not sure whether there is only a few minutes or a couple of hours he doesn;t remember

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:33

    You have more lessons this week? You will be doing 90 by the end of that one at your current rate of progress.

    i have another 2 hour lesson tomorrow :D my instructor is so nice and calm. the worst thing i did in my lesson was turn left when he asked and i'd indicated right.... oh how the guy behind laughed.... :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:33

    They said he can remember pretty much everything except the actual accident - including his q2 position! (link)

    That's as good as it could be

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:33

    Sorry Nick but there is no doubt. Bernie is more interested in the commercial rights than keeping the teams happy and he has managed to control the situation with the teams during the whole time Max has been there. There is absolutely no doubt Todt is his choice although he won't say anything until the result is announced just in case.

    I hope you are not right, and i dont belive you are... we will have to wait and see... and agree to disagree :D

    But i dont think it really matters, if Todt gets too big for his boots he becomes irrelevant.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:34

    Here's a video of the IFM car at Estoril and the Leon TDI at Okayama in Race Pro. Note the branding mistake on the Leon dashboard :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juSaAr1tSQY

    Plus a video of the Zonda at Spa and one of the classic Euro touring cars at Mid-Ohio.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sraUzAjGaNE

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:34

    I look forward to reading the tweets with interest. If one person does it they are going to get threatened. I think if lots of us do it they will be in an... interesting... situation. Will take this to Twitter when I get there.

    There are quite a few people and I am sure it will spread.

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 21:35

    Here's a video of the IFM car at Estoril and the Leon TDI at Okayama in Race Pro. Note the branding mistake on the Leon dashboard :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juSaAr1tSQY

    Ah I haven't seen estoril for years.

  • Iaian30/07/2009 at 21:36

    i have a question for everyone (i’m not here btw), it probably deserves a poll, but what the heck. very simple question. if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    a) keep watching f1 regardless (nothing will stop you)

    b) throw in the towel (assuming things will go downhill)

    c) wait and see how todt changes f1 before deciding

    d) other

    e) i care not about f1 now, let alone in the future

    i’m not holding anyone to anything, just curious if everyone has a breaking point and where that might be.

    a)

    I'm watching F1 for its technical nature, and what the drivers can achieve with their cars. While politics does inevitably play into this, it doesn't change what I watch F1 for. I can't imagine there'd be any breaking point that would turn me off the sport in this respect.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:37

    So this is a letter from a lawyer in Australia? Written to a UK based organisation who hosts their content in the USA. So totally unenforcable, especially as Mr GMM himself admits that not all their stories are accurate.

    According to Giggles the initials GMM are nottrademarkable so he can't prove we mean him when we say GigglesMadeupMedia or anything else. And as Gavin pointed out satire isn't actionable. Of course if he wants war and us to stick to the facts then I will make the point on twitter.

    I assume his lawyer's letter has been redacted because I keep mentioning on twitter that his lawyer can't spell. Ever known a proper lawyer to send out a letter with a spelling mistake?

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:37

    I think they got the diesel sound in the Leon pretty good, but I think it probably needs to sound a little rougher in the engine note to make it perfect.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:38

    i have another 2 hour lesson tomorrow :D my instructor is so nice and calm. the worst thing i did in my lesson was turn left when he asked and i'd indicated right.... oh how the guy behind laughed.... :D

    The big question is are you going to be ready for Valencia in case HE is not up to it?

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 21:39

    I assume his lawyer's letter has been redacted because I keep mentioning on twitter that his lawyer can't spell. Ever known a proper lawyer to send out a letter with a spelling mistake?

    It's a pity we can't all read the whole thing. Lawyers are notoriously bad at spelling.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:40

    My Aunty just Tremayned me on Facebook...!

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:41

    RP DLC Pack 3 is downloaded :D

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:41

    The big question is are you going to be ready for Valencia in case HE is not up to it?

    ahaha i'll do my best, but i'm not thinking i a) have the time to build up race fitness and b) have the stamina to stand anywhere near Jenson... let alone race him :P however.. i'm in spain during the valencian gp so i'll try my best :P

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 21:42

    RP DLC Pack 3 is downloaded :D

    Woop. :)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:42

    It's a pity we can't all read the whole thing. Lawyers are notoriously bad at spelling.

    Which is why you have a paralegal to sort it all out!

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:43

    OMG, it's the BMW 3.0 CSL Batmobile! :D

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:45

    Here we go, first drive of Spa in Race Pro, with a Radical SR4 :D

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 21:45

    i'm not here.

    there must be scope for a guest post detailing exactly just how evil schumacher is. if i were a betting man, i reckon it might stretch to a whole series.

    any takers?

    I'm not sure anyone has the patience any more to systematically run through his career pointing out his deficiencies. That got tedious enough in 2003. However, I do note that F1 has gained a lot of new fans since his retirement. This may or may not be connected, mainly it is due to the passage of time but I also think it is partly due to the fact that he's gone and everyone else had a chance.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:47

    Gavin did you notice my recent coment about the laywer's letter being redacted by request from the comments?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:47
  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 21:47

    Evening all, back from a rather nice evening. How are we all?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:47

    ahaha i'll do my best, but i'm not thinking i a) have the time to build up race fitness and b) have the stamina to stand anywhere near Jenson... let alone race him :P however.. i'm in spain during the valencian gp so i'll try my best :P

    At the rate you are gaining speed by Valencia you should be doing about 350mph You can slow right down for the corners

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:47

    Gavin did you notice my recent coment about the laywer's letter being redacted by request from the comments?

    Yes I did. I noticed it earlier when I tried to find the comment to link to Dank...

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:47

    OMG, it's the BMW 3.0 CSL Batmobile! :D

    Where?

    Its not quite as exciting if you cant see it!

  • James30/07/2009 at 21:48

    i'm not here.

    there must be scope for a guest post detailing exactly just how evil schumacher is. if i were a betting man, i reckon it might stretch to a whole series.

    any takers?

    only if it's tongue in cheek, I don't care for the guy but he achieved a lot in the sport regardless of what happened off the track and the incidents on it that tarnished his reputation.

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:49

    Where?

    Sorry, in Race Pro. I'll try and get a pic

    Also, first impression of Spa - FREAKING. AWESOME! :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:49

    Does anyone here play Farmville on Facebook? If so, can they add me as a neighbour?

    Cheers!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:50

    only if it's tongue in cheek, I don't care for the guy but he achieved a lot in the sport regardless of what happened off the track and the incidents on it that tarnished his reputation.

    The point is what would he have achieved if he had been playing to the same rules as everyone else?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:50

    Does anyone here play Farmville on Facebook? If so, can they add me as a neighbour?

    hehehe what a random request!

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 21:50

    Which is why you have a paralegal to sort it all out!

    That word always makes me think of a member of the parachute regiment jumping out of a plane with a briefcase.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:51

    At the rate you are gaining speed by Valencia you should be doing about 350mph You can slow right down for the corners

    ha! it's still not solved the Jenson problem... it was hard randomly bumping into him at goodwood let alone an f1 paddock ;P i'll stick with the joys of my town i think :P

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:51

    Does anyone here play Farmville on Facebook? If so, can they add me as a neighbour?

    You have been spending too long in the countryside

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:51

    Does anyone here play Farmville on Facebook? If so, can they add me as a neighbour?

    hehehe what a random request!

    ;) Why not? It's fun!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:52

    Does anyone here play Farmville on Facebook? If so, can they add me as a neighbour?

    You have been spending too long in the countryside

    At this rate it might be my only holiday... I have to call the travel company tomorrow to find out if it's safe to go to Majorca!

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 21:52

    The point is what would he have achieved if he had been playing to the same rules as everyone else?

    not as much. but still a lot, I think

  • James30/07/2009 at 21:53

    The point is what would he have achieved if he had been playing to the same rules as everyone else?

    Who knows and if I'm honest I'm not bothered one bit by Schumacher coming back. Everyone should be happy on some level, his fans because he's back and those who don't like him because he won't be winning races.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:54

    At this rate it might be my only holiday... I have to call the travel company tomorrow to find out if it's safe to go to Majorca!

    There were flights heading there that were turned round today

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:54

    24 Hours in and I'm already sick of talking about THAT MAN!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:54

    not as much. but still a lot, I think

    I don't

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 21:54

    I would like to report a historic event....

    The "1,000,000 people who want Harold Bishop as the next Doctor" group on facebook now has..

    *drum roll please*

    100 Members!!

    Only 999,900 to go!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:54

    Who knows and if I'm honest I'm not bothered one bit by Schumacher coming back. Everyone should be happy on some level, his fans because he's back and those who don't like him because he won't be winning races.

    Why do you think he won't be winning?

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 21:55

    At this rate it might be my only holiday... I have to call the travel company tomorrow to find out if it's safe to go to Majorca!

    All ports and airports are closed

  • Lukeh30/07/2009 at 21:55

    Only 999,900 to go!

    HaroldCast, the future of spc.

  • Rachel30/07/2009 at 21:55
  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 21:55

    At this rate it might be my only holiday... I have to call the travel company tomorrow to find out if it's safe to go to Majorca!

    There were flights heading there that were turned round today

    Yeah saw that ... dunno exactly what the situation is other than the airport's open. We will be staying in the north but the airport is in the south.

    Neither the travel company nor the airport have any news so Mrs Goat (who is a travel agent) is gonna call tomorrow.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:55

    ;) Why not? It's fun!

    Remind me next week... I will have a look!

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 21:56

    HaroldCast, the future of spc.

    COuld be a short future

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:58

    Why do you think he won't be winning?

    cause Jenson will win all the races :)

  • James30/07/2009 at 21:58

    Why do you think he won't be winning?

    This years Ferrari hasn't exactly threatened the front runners bar Hungary where KERs played a part in getting Kimi up the field and with the field so tightly packed it'll be difficult for him to do so when he'll be driving a couple of races depending on when Massa comes back.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 21:58

    I would like to report a historic event....

    The "1,000,000 people who want Harold Bishop as the next Doctor" group on facebook now has..

    *drum roll please*

    100 Members!!

    Only 999,900 to go!

    :D

  • Rachel30/07/2009 at 21:58

    Yeah saw that ... dunno exactly what the situation is other than the airport's open. We will be staying in the north but the airport is in the south.

    ETA don't usually attack the same place twice though, so surely tomorrow that airport's probably one of the safest places in Spain right now.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 21:59

    Very interesting.

    I liked this quote...

    But one thing is for sure: whoever is president, won’t be the same president as Max

    Now to trust him....

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 21:59

    Why do you think he won't be winning?

    cause Jenson will win all the races :)

    Jenson's beaten him before....

    At the hungaroring...

    in the rain....

    when MSC retired....

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 21:59

    This day just got even better! Mum found my passport photos I need for my provisional licence application! I thought I'd lost them! :D

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:01

    Jenson's beaten him before....

    Jenson can easily beat him... the Brawn car will be amazing again and the ferrari wont be able to beat it no matter what. :) (please don't shatter this dream for me)

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:01

    Jenson can easily beat him... the Brawn car will be amazing again and the ferrari wont be able to beat it no matter what. :) (please don't shatter this dream for me)

    JENSON FTW!!! :D :D

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:02

    JENSON FTW!!! :D :D

    that's the spirit! (thank you :) )

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:02

    Jenson can easily beat him... the Brawn car will be amazing again and the ferrari wont be able to beat it no matter what. :) (please don't shatter this dream for me)

    The driver going in the ferrari is fat, Kers is heavy, i cant see this being a good combo

  • guille230630/07/2009 at 22:02

    Jenson can easily beat him... the Brawn car will be amazing again and the ferrari wont be able to beat it no matter what. :) (please don't shatter this dream for me)

    I was going to, but I'll keep your f1happyplace intact :-)

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:02

    that's the spirit! (thank you :) )

    hehe :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:04

    This years Ferrari hasn't exactly threatened the front runners bar Hungary where KERs played a part in getting Kimi up the field and with the field so tightly packed it'll be difficult for him to do so when he'll be driving a couple of races depending on when Massa comes back.

    Valencia is going to suit the car if Hungary did. Kimi is supposed to be unmotivated, disinterested etc and he finished second

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 22:05

    I love this caption in Autosport magazine this week:

    "Yes, the BMWs were in the race. Here's proof"

    :D #sorryrg

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:06

    Valencia is going to suit the car if Hungary did. Kimi is supposed to be unmotivated, disinterested etc and he finished second

    Kimi isn't unmotivated.. he just can't show emotion well (meant in the nicest way possible - don't kill me... sorry amy), plus... Jenson is going to win.. *sits stubbornly in her f1happyplace*

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:07

    Kimi isn't unmotivated.. he just can't show emotion well (meant in the nicest way possible - don't kill me... sorry amy), plus... Jenson is going to win.. *sits stubbornly in her f1happyplace*

    what coincidence, i'm writing about emotion on my blog,

    spoky

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:08

    i have a question for everyone (i'm not here btw), it probably deserves a poll, but what the heck. very simple question. if todt wins and ari loses, do you:

    a) keep watching f1 regardless (nothing will stop you)

    b) throw in the towel (assuming things will go downhill)

    c) wait and see how todt changes f1 before deciding

    d) other

    e) i care not about f1 now, let alone in the future

    i'm not holding anyone to anything, just curious if everyone has a breaking point and where that might be.

    c) With regards to F1 I will wait and see what changes he makes and how he deals with (what remains of) the FOTA teams. BUT, it would destroy any faith I have left in the FIA. Right now my opinion of the FIA is that it is a fundamentally good organisation led by a despot, i.e. it can be rescued. If Todt gets in... hmm.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:08

    what coincidence, i'm writing about emotion on my blog,

    can't wait to read it :)

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:08

    can't wait to read it :)

    aha, dont say that, that means i have to make it good ;)

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:10

    aha, dont say that, that means i have to make it good ;)

    ;)

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:11

    ;)

    's up

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:12

    's up

    link!! so that everyone can see it! :)

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 22:15

    I am having so much fun sliding this BMW 3.0 CSL around Mid-Ohio. It's brilliant :D

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:15

    link!! so that everyone can see it! :)

    if i must

    http://jonwaldock.wordpress.com

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 22:16

    link!! so that everyone can see it! :)

    if i must

    http://jonwaldock.wordpress.com

    You must - link everywhere you can else no-one will read it!

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 22:16

    Here's something for Christine. It's about Excel on the PC and Mac platforms. Enjoy.

    http://bit.ly/gKK6C

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:17

    ok. have to go again now, but, i think we need future topic suggestions.

    What are you both interested in?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:19

    I just had to give my Dad a traffic report on south east Queensland...

    Considering i am in Surrey and it is dark, i think this is quite an achivement

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 22:20

    Here's something for Christine. It's about Excel on the PC and Mac platforms. Enjoy.

    http://bit.ly/gKK6C

    Why the heck would the two versions use different date systems? That's just stupid!

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 22:22

    Why the heck would the two versions use different date systems? That's just stupid!

    They are written by different dev teams.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:24

    Am listening to Radiolemans LMS night practice, heard a noise...assumed it was Hindhaughs stomach....apparently it was a car engine...

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:25

    They are written by different dev teams.

    hey, if we're onto slagging off microsoft, i'm in!

    (actually i should probably sleep)

    didn't microsoft once invent a product called exchange? useful for exchanging information?

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:26

    What are you both interested in?

    that's a tough one. we started sidepodcast to do something together, so, f1.

    new media also, i would guess. tis a big old subject though.

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 22:26

    didn't microsoft once invent a product called exchange? useful for exchanging information?

    It's supported by the iPhone, so it must be an excellent product.

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:26

    It's supported by the iPhone, so it must be an excellent product.

    :)

    i heard google apps is great drop-in replacement though.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:26

    new media also, i would guess. tis a big old subject though.

    it could be interesting, you guys would totally do it justice, and it's something thats always changing, so you'd always have something to talk about

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:27

    it could be interesting, you guys would totally do it justice, and it's something thats always changing, so you'd always have something to talk about

    problem is:

    http://live.twit.tv/

    it's already brilliant.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 22:29

    it could be interesting, you guys would totally do it justice, and it's something thats always changing, so you'd always have something to talk about

    problem is:

    http://live.twit.tv/

    it's already brilliant.

    Cheesemaking? Homebrewing? Gardening? How to be anonymous on the internet?

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:29

    What are you both interested in?

    that's a tough one. we started sidepodcast to do something together, so, f1.

    new media also, i would guess. tis a big old subject though.

    So is F1.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:30

    new media also, i would guess. tis a big old subject though.

    You would have to compete with Leo if you did that.

    The other thing is if you change subject you break up the community

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:30

    Cheesemaking? Homebrewing? Gardening? How to be anonymous on the internet?

    we really should've had a backup plan. another separate show running in tandem. we absolutely had every egg in bernie's basket.

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:30

    I just tried to find the comment re their lawyer and I see the section ofthe letter that had been quoted has been redacted by request. Probably realised how stupid and childish it made them look.

    I thought that was because someone in the comments asked for it to be removed as a preventative measure.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:31

    that's a tough one. we started sidepodcast to do something together, so, f1.

    I was thinking earlier i would share this with you... I dont know if it will help, If it doesnt just ignore it ;)

    I think F1 is good as long as you dont take it too seriosly.

    One of the things i like about F1 is the politics, because it doesnt absorb me and stress me out like real politics does.

    I realised this morning that the whole Schumacher thing didn't matter to me reall., I need to treat f1 like an action filled soap opera...

    I know this isnt as easy for you guys with all the work you put in, but taking a step back and looking at it in the grand scheme of things, it just wasnt enough for me to get as wound up about as i was last night...

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:31

    The other thing is if you change subject you break up the community

    but if they're not enjoying it then theres little point.

    i'd stick around if you guys changed, im up for anything me :)

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:31

    One of the things i like about F1 is the politics, because it doesnt absorb me and stress me out like real politics does.

    I am completely the opposite, i love real politics, hate sport politics

  • Scott Woodwiss30/07/2009 at 22:32

    we really should've had a backup plan. another separate show running in tandem. we absolutely had every egg in bernie's basket.

    But then to be fair, you would have had twice the work to do, so you would have worn yourselves out twice as quickly.

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:33

    I thought that was because someone in the comments asked for it to be removed as a preventative measure.

    removed because i'm not in a fighting mood. give it time though, we'll come back to this.

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:33

    My dad made me drive at over 40mph on my first lesson (he taught me to drive). When I reached the maximum speed I could manage, he said "you don't like that do you?" and then "you see, there's no reason to go any faster."

    First time i drove i was with my dad, off road in deep dunes in a V8 rangerover. I think i learned more about controlling power and speed doing that than all the lessons i had to pay a fortune for in the UK

    I was on the golf course earlier (having an utter nightmare but that's by the by). There was this kid of about 8 driving around in a tractor! Just a little one, but a proper one with an engine and everything. He was helping the groundsman by fetching things from here and there.

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 22:33

    we really should've had a backup plan. another separate show running in tandem. we absolutely had every egg in bernie's basket.

    Explains your love of Williams F1 :)

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:33

    But then to be fair, you would have had twice the work to do, so you would have worn yourselves out twice as quickly.

    true enough.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:34

    we really should've had a backup plan. another separate show running in tandem. we absolutely had every egg in bernie's basket.

    You need a 24 hour news network.

    What would be worth doing is the occasional random show just to see whether people take an interest. I know you are not hapy just now but I think sidepodradio would be fabulous and not even half of it is about F1. I think you would get a great nuzz from doing it and I think you should only postpone it by two weeks which should be enough time for the people who were on holidy for the original date to get back.

    We could even take more of the F1 content out and replace it in two weeks if you make a decision to go on that date by Monday ish

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 22:34

    true enough.

    and aren't you meant to be taking a break? ;-)

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:34

    and aren't you meant to be taking a break? ;-)

    oh yes. but the break is to think about stuff.

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:35

    At this rate it might be my only holiday... I have to call the travel company tomorrow to find out if it's safe to go to Majorca!

    Dad & family are heading there next week, they think it will have calmed down by then. Hopefully it will do sooner so you get a good break.

  • Nikki30/07/2009 at 22:36

    Hi everyone.

    Christine and Mr. C, I hope you have a recuperative hiatus. (tho' you seem to be putting the "Hi!" in hiatus.)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 22:36

    At this rate it might be my only holiday... I have to call the travel company tomorrow to find out if it's safe to go to Majorca!

    Dad & family are heading there next week, they think it will have calmed down by then. Hopefully it will do sooner so you get a good break.

    Will let you know how it goes...

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:36

    We could even take more of the F1 content out and replace it in two weeks if you make a decision to go on that date by Monday ish

    :)

    no pressure then!

    i don't have answers to any of the above, even though i know you're thinking of us. like i said earlier, even casting aside the schumi thing, i couldn't handle todt in power. i really am miffed at the sport, and it's been building since whenever testing was banned.

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:37

    Christine and Mr. C, I hope you have a recuperative hiatus. (tho' you seem to be putting the "Hi!" in hiatus.)

    hi nikki :)

    i'll stop now. i must sleeps.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 22:37

    oh yes. but the break is to think about stuff.

    Cool. Just realise that lots of others have gone through similar problems with Internet sites. Even Twit had a time when Leo was close to quitting.

    Personally, I think you guys try way to hard and do too much, but it's great :-)

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:38

    i'll stop now. i must sleeps.

    Night!

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:38

    i don't have answers to any of the above, even though i know you're thinking of us. like i said earlier, even casting aside the schumi thing, i couldn't handle todt in power. i really am miffed at the sport, and it's been building since whenever testing was banned.

    which is almost certainly because its taking the fans out of it. boo at them.

    night Mr C

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:38

    removed because i'm not in a fighting mood. give it time though, we'll come back to this.

    roger that

  • Nikki30/07/2009 at 22:38

    Speaking of Twitter, who is everyone there? I can't find many of you. I'm @nikitafullmoon. Please post your Twitter names, pretty please.

    Night night Mr. C.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:39

    no pressure then!

    We could go on the original content on less notice but if you want to hack out the F1 stuff and replace it that takes time

    i don't have answers to any of the above, even though i know you're thinking of us. like i said earlier, even casting aside the schumi thing, i couldn't handle todt in power. i really am miffed at the sport, and it's been building since whenever testing was banned.

    Everyone goes through phases like that. For me it was Mansell's career then Schumacher's.

    I still think regardless of F1 you would get a fantastic buzz out of doing sidepodradio.

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:40

    We could even take more of the F1 content out and replace it in two weeks if you make a decision to go on that date by Monday ish

    It could be the gateway to your future. A 1 or 2 hour weekly or fortnightly podcast about anything and nothing.

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:41

    Will let you know how it goes...

    Thanks.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 22:41

    Everyone goes through phases like that. For me it was Mansell's career then Schumacher's.

    Phew yeah, and Senna-Prost. Lucky I had uni to take my mind off that!

  • Nikki30/07/2009 at 22:41

    It could be the gateway to your future. A 1 or 2 hour weekly or fortnightly podcast about anything and nothing.

    The Seinfeld of podcasts ... ? God help us. :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:41

    Speaking of Twitter, who is everyone there? I can't find many of you. I'm @nikitafullmoon. Please post your Twitter names, pretty please.

    Try this Nikki

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:42

    Speaking of Twitter, who is everyone there? I can't find many of you. I'm @nikitafullmoon. Please post your Twitter names, pretty please.

    Now try it with the link

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Sidepodcast+Community+on+Twitter

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:42

    i'll stop now. i must sleeps.

    Night.

    Promise us you won't make any decisions on anything at all until Wednesday. This needs a clear week of thinking and taking a back seat.

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:42

    i'll stop now. i must sleeps.

    night Mr C :)

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:42

    I still think regardless of F1 you would get a fantastic buzz out of doing sidepodradio.

    tis true.

    how hard is it to go to sleep when people are still up chatting btw? at 3 in the morning no-ones around and i can sneak off. grr.

  • Nikki30/07/2009 at 22:43

    Now try it with the link

    Thanks. That works better. Should have known to check the wiki.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:43

    It could be the gateway to your future. A 1 or 2 hour weekly or fortnightly podcast about anything and nothing.

    The problem is if you take F1 out you break up the community

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 22:43

    how hard is it to go to sleep when people are still up chatting btw? at 3 in the morning no-ones around and i can sneak off. grr.

    Welcome to my world.

  • James30/07/2009 at 22:43

    Speaking of Twitter, who is everyone there? I can't find many of you. I'm @nikitafullmoon. Please post your Twitter names, pretty please.

    Now try it with the link

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Sidepodcast+Community+on+Twitter

    I'm on the page, didn't realise that. I don't use mine too much.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:43

    how hard is it to go to sleep when people are still up chatting btw? at 3 in the morning no-ones around and i can sneak off. grr.

    haha, welcome to the real world ;)

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 22:44

    how hard is it to go to sleep when people are still up chatting btw? at 3 in the morning no-ones around and i can sneak off. grr.

    hehe. Not if I keep chatting.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:44

    The problem is if you take F1 out you break up the community

    I think you'd find die-hards would still be around, and you'd pick up new people too :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:44

    how hard is it to go to sleep when people are still up chatting btw? at 3 in the morning no-ones around and i can sneak off. grr.

    You can't have early closing on sidepodcast. That would be crazy talk

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:44

    how hard is it to go to sleep when people are still up chatting btw? at 3 in the morning no-ones around and i can sneak off. grr.

    i know... i think you may now realise why Amy doesn't get much sleep... and why it's hard to miss live shows :P

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:44

    Thanks. That works better. Should have known to check the wiki.

    Make sure you add yourself

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:45

    You can't have early closing on sidepodcast. That would be crazy talk

    i am exhausted and this thing keeps snipping at me. i may sue for harassment.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 22:46

    i am exhausted and this thing keeps snipping at me. i may sue for harassment.

    We'll be here when you get back....

    I may even get some work done in the mean time.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:46

    I think you'd find die-hards would still be around, and you'd pick up new people too :)

    There would be a certain level of continuity but not how it is now because most of us want to discuss F1 and are going to seek out F1 discussions. If the management don't want anything to do with F1 people are only going to spend a fraction of the time here that they do now.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:46

    i may sue for harassment.

    Write an email...

    FAO Christine Blachford

    ;)

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 22:47

    i am exhausted and this thing keeps snipping at me. i may sue for harassment.

    CMD-W

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:47

    i am exhausted and this thing keeps snipping at me. i may sue for harassment.

    You know you can stop that.

  • James30/07/2009 at 22:47

    The problem is if you take F1 out you break up the community

    I think you'd find die-hards would still be around, and you'd pick up new people too :)

    I'm not even sure why I'm here, I drift in and out of liking F1.

  • Nikki30/07/2009 at 22:48

    Make sure you add yourself

    Done. And busy adding people to follow. But I have been "Blocked from following ... at the request of the user" sidepodcast / Mr. C. is that because of the hiatus thing?

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:48

    i am exhausted and this thing keeps snipping at me. i may sue for harassment.

    I was almost tempted into downloading safari earlier just so i could hear it ;)

  • Chris30/07/2009 at 22:49

    I was almost tempted into downloading safari earlier just so i could hear it ;)

    It works on Firefox too you know...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 22:49

    Make sure you add yourself

    Done. And busy adding people to follow. But I have been "Blocked from following ... at the request of the user" sidepodcast / Mr. C. is that because of the hiatus thing?

    Added you a well Nikki

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:49

    i am exhausted and this thing keeps snipping at me. i may sue for harassment.

    turn off the mac/ ipod? lol

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 22:49

    I'm not even sure why I'm here, I drift in and out of liking F1.

    After a few decades you get used to it. I never thought things could get worse than FISA/FOCA

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:49

    #sidepodspace

    The shuttle is due to land at 10:48am Eastern / 15:48 pm UK tomorrow.

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:50

    It works on Firefox too you know...

    really!

    I will have a look

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:50

    Done. And busy adding people to follow. But I have been "Blocked from following ... at the request of the user" sidepodcast / Mr. C. is that because of the hiatus thing?

    what? no?

    have only blocked one person in my life. i did clean up the account this morning, but i wouldn't stop you from following.

  • Chris30/07/2009 at 22:51

    I will have a look

    Has to be Firefox 3 though. 2 won't work

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:51

    Has to be Firefox 3 though. 2 won't work

    3.5

  • Chris30/07/2009 at 22:52

    3.5

    I was thinking that, but wasn't sure

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:52

    Done. And busy adding people to follow. But I have been "Blocked from following ... at the request of the user" sidepodcast / Mr. C. is that because of the hiatus thing?

    Maybe

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:52

    3.5

    Ah, will upgrade it next week once my head is free again

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:53

    have only blocked one person in my life. i did clean up the account this morning, but i wouldn't stop you from following.

    actually, that's a lie. two people, i forgot the one i had to do the other day. but still.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:53

    Maybe

    No

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:53

    Maybe

    No

    :)

    i am rubbish at hiatus'

  • Nikki30/07/2009 at 22:54

    have only blocked one person in my life. i did clean up the account this morning, but i wouldn't stop you from following.

    Big fat "Blocked" notice. Sniff! Want a screen shot?

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:55

    Big fat "Blocked" notice. Sniff! Want a screen shot?

    have just followed you. hmm.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:55

    i am rubbish at hiatus'

    Try going on a boat. That kinda worked for Christine. Of course boats are outside.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 22:55

    have only blocked one person in my life. i did clean up the account this morning, but i wouldn't stop you from following.

    Big fat "Blocked" notice. Sniff! Want a screen shot?

    Does it have a cute animal background like the Fail Whale? If so, then yes please!

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 22:55

    i am rubbish at hiatus'

    You managed a whole 4 hours once. We were impressed.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:55

    Big fat "Blocked" notice. Sniff! Want a screen shot?

    Put it on dropio

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:56

    i am rubbish at hiatus'

    :) You are too good at creating awesomely addictive commenting solutions!

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:56

    i am rubbish at hiatus'

    you're hiatus-ing the right bit of it, you're doing good :D

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:56

    Nikki are you trying to follow @sidepodcast?

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:56

    Try going on a boat. That kinda worked for Christine. Of course boats are outside.

    i did that during our last hiatus and came home with a £200 internet bill...

  • Nikki30/07/2009 at 22:57

    have just followed you. hmm.

    All fixed.

    Thanks!

    Speaking of boats, I must run, because I am dock marshaling this evening.

    Not nearly as glamorous as race marshaling. Dragon boats, not open-wheel race cars. Sigh.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 22:57

    i did that during our last hiatus and came home with a £200 internet bill...

    Hehe. I should drop.io the XKCD cartoon.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:57

    i did that during our last hiatus and came home with a £200 internet bill...

    Not that kind of boat. Little ones that pootle around canals and stuff. You don't even need to get married to go on them

  • Nick30/07/2009 at 22:57

    :) You are too good at creating awesomely addictive commenting solutions!

    I must say i have seen nothing else like this, It takes the best bits from a chat room, forum thread and blog, and squeezes it down into an incredible thing!

  • lou30/07/2009 at 22:58

    Not that kind of boat. Little ones that pootle around canals and stuff. You don't even need to get married to go on them

    or go to Cambridge and go punting? punting is very very fun :)

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:58

    i did that during our last hiatus and came home with a £200 internet bill...

    you can use mine?

  • me30/07/2009 at 22:58

    you can use mine?

    yes please!

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 22:59

    i did that during our last hiatus and came home with a £200 internet bill...

    http://xkcd.com/597/

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 22:59

    yes please!

    :D you come to essex and it's all yours! just dont break it ;)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 22:59

    you can use mine?

    Does yours have wifi and room for two laptops, a mixing deask, studio lighting?

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 23:00

    Does yours have wifi and room for two laptops, a mixing deask, studio lighting?

    it has bottles and a tarpaulin sail?

  • Andy Taylor30/07/2009 at 23:00

    You managed a whole 4 hours once. We were impressed.

    oops ther's a 2 missing there. It was 24 hours.

  • me30/07/2009 at 23:01

    oops ther's a 2 missing there. It was 24 hours.

    ah yes. i remember it well.

    what happened to rg's tenner?

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 23:04

    ah yes. i remember it well.

    I love that there is an automated daily post while you are not here

  • me30/07/2009 at 23:05

    I love that there is an automated daily post while you are not here

    ...

    i'm so dead. g'night.

  • Paul30/07/2009 at 23:06

    i'm so dead. g'night.

    See ya.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 23:08

    i'm so dead. g'night.

    see ya!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)30/07/2009 at 23:08

    i'm so dead. g'night.

    Sleep well....

  • lou30/07/2009 at 23:09

    i'm so dead. g'night.

    night Mr C :)

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 23:11

    i'm so dead. g'night.

    good night

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 23:26

    Whoever came up with @gmmf1 is a bloody genius.

  • Jon Waldock30/07/2009 at 23:29

    Whoever came up with @gmmf1 is a bloody genius.

    it was was a sidepoder, im 99% sure

  • Pat W30/07/2009 at 23:29

    it was was a sidepoder, im 99% sure

    Got to be. Doesn't matter who. They are a genius.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 23:32

    Whoever came up with @gmmf1 is a bloody genius.

    I really wish it had been me but it wasn't. I am so gutted it wasn't my idea.

  • Steven Roy30/07/2009 at 23:33

    it was was a sidepoder, im 99% sure

    If it was we would have heard of it

  • Stuart C31/07/2009 at 08:38

    Morning all,

    I take it the sit-in at the newsagent has also been cancelled?

  • Scott in Italy31/07/2009 at 08:39

    I take it the sit-in at the newsagent has also been cancelled?

    hi Stuart - you're in yesterday's daily thread.

  • Stuart C31/07/2009 at 08:58

    you’re in yesterday’s daily thread

    Ah, so I am...