Halfway through the week already, and almost at the end of August. Time is ticking ever onwards, and we've just got six races left to go. Is it all still up for grabs, or are the winners as obvious as when the season started? Meanwhile, here are some of the things we're talking about:

  • There are suggestions that Fisichella could make a good replacement over at Ferrari. It would be a dream come true for the Italian to drive for his home team, but would they really want him up there? He's a race winner but has he done anything to warrant the step up of late?
  • Toyota have blamed their poor performance recently to qualifying. It's the age old excuse that if you don't qualify well, you struggle in the race. The answer is, then, to qualify better. Where are you gonna place the blame for that, Toyota?
  • Finally, it's a good week to be a Brawn fan, as off the back of a great win for Rubens, the team have announced they have secured funding for several years to come. Although no details have been given, the next three years appear to be sorted, and Ross Brawn has hinted they may retain their drivers next year as well.

That'll do it for now. The teams are looking towards Spa, so it's time we all did the same. Don't forget to check out yesterday's F1 Big Picture for a glimpse into the past at the track. I'll see you in the comments.

819 responses

  • Nick25/08/2009 at 23:10

    Hello Wednesday!

    I think the Fisi to Ferrari rumour might be Joe fishing for a way to get Liuzzi back into F1, but don't tell him i said that!

  • Pat W25/08/2009 at 23:12

    I think the Fisi to Ferrari rumour might be Joe fishing for a way to get Liuzzi back into F1, but don't tell him i said that!

    I was going to say I'd be amazed to see Fisi in a Ferrari - but after Badoer nothing surprises me any more!

  • Pat W25/08/2009 at 23:34

    A question for those who use graphs in blog posts.. do you create the graph, PrintScreen, save as PNG and insert into a post? Is that the best way to do it?

  • Nick25/08/2009 at 23:45

    A question for those who use graphs in blog posts.. do you create the graph, PrintScreen, save as PNG and insert into a post? Is that the best way to do it?

    Pepole wanting more than to read my beautifully crafted words?

    Whatever next!

  • Alison25/08/2009 at 23:58

    Oh man. Nostalgia central! My first ever boyfriend just re-added me on msn. Now it really is bed time. Night all!

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 00:00

    Oh man. Nostalgia central! My first ever boyfriend just re-added me on msn. Now it really is bed time. Night all!

    You're in there!

    Night!

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 00:01

    My Dad just upgraded my internet here, apparently i was getrting too many over usage charges.

    Bonus: I'm getting a WiFi router ... 2003 Here i come!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 00:03

    Oh man. Nostalgia central! My first ever boyfriend just re-added me on msn. Now it really is bed time. Night all!

    night :-)

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 00:11

    My Dad just upgraded my internet here, apparently i was getrting too many over usage charges.

    Bonus: I'm getting a WiFi router ... 2003 Here i come!

    Nice..

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 00:14

    Nice..

    I know :P. I especially like the fact he didn't suggest i pay for it! :P

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 00:24

    I know :P. I especially like the fact he didn't suggest i pay for it! :P

    Good deal then :-)

    Bedtime, catch ya tomorrow.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 00:27

    Good deal then :-)

    Bedtime, catch ya tomorrow.

    Night!

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 00:29

    Morning, everyone. :)

    Oooh - a Jake blog! He said that,

    The viewing figures this year are the highest for 10 years

    How did THAT happen?!

    There's this Spanish guy on Twitter also recommending SPC, F1M, and the Big Picture. Good job! :D

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 00:34

    How did THAT happen?!

    There is a bizare phenomenon here where you can get higher viewing figures on BBC1 for some reason...

    But all credit tot hose guys they have been doing a stunning job, as much as people dont like EJ and DC I think they make a decent pairing and the whole show comes together really well.

    I am amazed that the forum gets a million viewers per outing, i think that must be a record for a TV show which isn't on a channel.

    I am sure if they tallied the people watching it though less legitimate means overseas as well as online they must get that many again.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 00:36

    I am amazed that the forum gets a million viewers per outing, i think that must be a record for a TV show which isn't on a channel.

    Indeed - and you're right - imagine if they counted everyone watching it through JTV and UStream - they'd get an extra million!

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 00:37

    Indeed - and you're right - imagine if they counted everyone watching it through JTV and UStream - they'd get an extra million!

    I belive they dont even count the people watching on their own website!

  • Robstar26/08/2009 at 02:16

    There’s this Spanish guy on Twitter also recommending SPC, F1M, and the Big Picture. Good job!

    What are F1M & The Big Picture?

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 02:20

    What are F1M & The Big Picture?

    F1M is the F1 minute which gets put out by MrsC every day, and the big picture is part of that site too...

    So its all good for Sidepodcast!

    http://www.f1minute.com/

    http://www.f1minute.com/category/f1-big-picture/

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 02:20

    There’s this Spanish guy on Twitter also recommending SPC, F1M, and the Big Picture. Good job!

    Who was it out of interest? :D

  • Robstar26/08/2009 at 02:22

    Ahhh, I knew about F1M but not the Big Picture...

    Thanks

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 03:05

    #sidepodspace update

    STS-128 launch Take Three - If it gets any earlier it will be late at night

    The third attempt to launch the shuttle will be on Friday morning at 12:22am Eastern / 5:22am UK. I think NASA has finished using ones in its times and has switched to twos.

    There is no other info at this time but as soon as I have it I will pass it on.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 03:05

    I had one hour of sleep last night and I am still wide awake. I have no idea why. I suppose I should go to bed and try to sleep.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 05:14

    Who was it out of interest? :D

    search for sidepodcast on Twitter - it'll come up. :D i just found him when i was searching for the #f1 tag.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 05:14

    I'm sure Alonso would've appreciated his loose tyre in Hungary being THIS behaved. Looks like it came from V8 Supercars a few years ago.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvDfnrwDFzE

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 05:36

    I'm not sure if anyone noticed but yesterday's Jake blog had a link to Ollie's site in it :) Go Ollie!

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 06:14

    well done ollie!! How awesome!

    Feel absolutely rotten today :( got little sleep and this cold is driving me mad.. Working in the freezer room today so via two combined = uh oh

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 06:17

    I'm not sure if anyone noticed but yesterday's Jake blog had a link to Ollie's site in it :) Go Ollie!

    I can't find the link to Ollie's?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 06:19

    I can't find the link to Ollie's?

    Ah, it was in the article before last... ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 06:30

    Following on from Toyota not approving the budget for F1 next year yet, here is a story about Toyota suspending a production line. It also mentions Toyota plans to cut vehicle production by up to 40%. Is it only a matter of time before they withdraw from F1 then?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 06:31

    Oh, and morning all ;)

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 06:32

    Following on from Toyota not approving the budget for F1 next year yet, here is a story about Toyota suspending a production line. It also mentions Toyota plans to cut vehicle production by up to 40%. Is it only a matter of time before they withdraw from F1 then?

    TBH, I don't think so. F1 is the smokescreen for what they're doing. When they pull out of F1, it's obvious something's wrong, so if they stay in F1, it's less likely that we'll notice.

    It also helps that their chairman is a motorsport fan, according to Joe.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 06:33

    It also helps that their chairman is a motorsport fan, according to Joe.

    The Honda chairman was also a motorsport fan and he got voted out so they could pull out. Ford too.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 06:40

    The Honda chairman was also a motorsport fan and he got voted out so they could pull out. Ford too.

    But the Toyota chairman just came in this year, right? And he's a Toyoda - so from the family. Lemme look for the article.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 06:42

    But the Toyota chairman just came in this year, right? And he's a Toyoda - so from the family. Lemme look for the article.

    Ah, here it is:

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21713.html

    The Toyota Motor Company is losing a lot of money at the moment as a result of the economic downturn. The company has a new boss in Akio Toyoda. He is instituting a relentless cost-cutting plan to try to get the company back into profit.

    ...

    The good news for Toyota is that Toyoda is a motorsport fan, who has even raced himself on occasion. He is planning to help Toyota by creating exciting new cars, including an affordable sports car. Thus maintaining a sporting image for Toyota is important and the F1 programme will get a new lease of life.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 07:06

    But the Toyota chairman just came in this year, right? And he's a Toyoda - so from the family. Lemme look for the article.

    Ah, here it is:

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21713.html

    The Toyota Motor Company is losing a lot of money at the moment as a result of the economic downturn. The company has a new boss in Akio Toyoda. He is instituting a relentless cost-cutting plan to try to get the company back into profit.

    ...

    The good news for Toyota is that Toyoda is a motorsport fan, who has even raced himself on occasion. He is planning to help Toyota by creating exciting new cars, including an affordable sports car. Thus maintaining a sporting image for Toyota is important and the F1 programme will get a new lease of life.

    True, I forgot that. But the board has to approve it, so it's still uncertain...

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 07:45

    Gosh I can't believe its Wednesday night already and practice at Spa is but two days away. Quickest week ever! It feels like Rubens won yesterday!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 07:49

    Gosh I can't believe its Wednesday night already and practice at Spa is but two days away. Quickest week ever! It feels like Rubens won yesterday!

    I need Pandas today :(

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 07:54

    I need Pandas today :(

    Panda cup? or perhaps a baby panda bowl?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:06

    Hi all.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 08:07

    Hi all.

    Aloha

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 08:08

    Hi all.

    Morning.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 08:14

    Hi all.

    Top of the day to you. :D

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:14

    How are we all today? What's the weather like where you are?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 08:16

    How are we all today? What's the weather like where you are?

    Rained like Cats and Dogs last night (just after I came in from my run) but today it's nice again!

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 08:16

    How are we all today? What's the weather like where you are?

    Dark. Dark is a weather.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 08:18

    Dark. Dark is a weather.

    It's also pretty dark here, actually...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 08:18

    How are we all today? What's the weather like where you are?

    Dark. Dark is a weather.

    On a racing game it is ;)

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:21

    Dark. Dark is a weather.

    Does that make light a weather too?

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 08:22

    How are we all today? What's the weather like where you are?

    work is over for the day, but I will also be in dark when the train comes up to the surface. It was beautiful this morning in the sun on the platform...

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 08:23

    Does that make light a weather too?

    purple is a fruit.

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 08:24

    How are we all today?

    great! And you?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:28

    great! And you?

    Pretty good, all things considered.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:28

    purple is a fruit.

    Understood :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 08:30

    great! And you?

    Pretty good, all things considered.

    Do you need Pandas too?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:30

    Do you need Pandas too?

    Always!

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 08:31

    purple is a fruit.

    purple is Ricky-Lee Coulter's favourite colour. She said son on Rove. I just thought you should know.

    Who doesn't like the one eyed, one horned, flying, purple people eater?

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 08:37

    Who doesn't like the one eyed, one horned, flying, purple people eater?

    just try and tell me that song isn't stuck in your head now. Go on, tell me. I won't believe you!

    PS. It's nearly Spaaaaaaaaaa!

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:37

    PS. It's nearly Spaaaaaaaaaa!

    Don't. I'm not ready.

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 08:39

    Don't. I'm not ready.

    rubbish. You're aching for it with every fibre of your being

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 08:43

    PS. It's nearly Spaaaaaaaaaa!

    Don't. I'm not ready.

    Neither am I - no Driver Consistency Analysis yet (haven't even started) and no chance of a post on Look-How Bad-You-Are... That will have to wait until he is fired next week at least...

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:45

    rubbish. You're aching for it with every fibre of your being

    Hahaha. You're funny.

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 08:46

    Neither am I - no Driver Consistency Analysis yet (haven't even started) and no chance of a post on Look-How Bad-You-Are... That will have to wait until he is fired next week at least...

    I sure hope he spends every day in the simulator this week. Have we heard any reports of how his neck held up?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 08:55

    I sure hope he spends every day in the simulator this week. Have we heard any reports of how his neck held up?

    I don't think he's said anything. But he probably wasn't going fast enough for it to be a problem.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:01

    How are we all today? What's the weather like where you are?

    It's a bit rainy but nothing too bad.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 09:09

    Neither am I - no Driver Consistency Analysis yet (haven't even started) and no chance of a post on Look-How Bad-You-Are... That will have to wait until he is fired next week at least...

    I sure hope he spends every day in the simulator this week. Have we heard any reports of how his neck held up?

    If that's all it takes then me and Scott should be given a go! Are you listening Ferrari? I could drive there overnight...

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:19

    For those who want a panda but are only allowed a dog?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 09:19

    For those who want a panda but are only allowed a dog?

    Wow. That's weird.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:20

    Wow. That's weird.

    some of them are way, way more disturbing!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208913/The-poodles-transformed-pandas-horses-snails-creative-grooming-dog-shows.html

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:21

    How are we all today?

    Not good. I've broken my internet!!!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:21

    Not good. I've broken my internet!!!

    Noooooooooooooooooooooo

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:22

    Not good. I've broken my internet!!!

    what's Finnish for noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 09:22

    Not good. I've broken my internet!!!

    Oh no!

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:22

    what's Finnish for noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!?

    eiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:23

    what's Finnish for noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!?

    Is it... nØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØ

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:24

    eiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

    I'll remember that. Being a Heikki fan, it could be useful :D :(

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:26

    I'll remember that. Being a Heikki fan, it could be useful :D :(

    Occasionally it may depend on the circumstances. Because you declinate(?) no in Finnish. en, et, ei, emme, ette, eivät but most of the time it's ei :)

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:26

    Occasionally it may depend on the circumstances. Because you declinate(?) no in Finnish. en, et, ei, emme, ette, eivät but most of the time it's ei :)

    stupid hard language to learn. Why can't no just be no!

  • Richard Elliot26/08/2009 at 09:28

    Ross will be happy. Not only has his team secured funding, but I have it on a good source that he is going to be a grandfather.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:28

    Occasionally it may depend on the circumstances. Because you declinate(?) no in Finnish. en, et, ei, emme, ette, eivät but most of the time it's ei :)

    It's decline... although not a common English word.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:29

    It's decline... although not a common English word.

    Well decline is a common English word, but not in that sense...

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:31

    I tried to install a wireless router so I can comment from my bed (like Amy). We have to give the network administrator our MAC address and he let's us connect. So yesterday I gave him the MAC of my shiny new router. Tried to set it up but didn't work. Then I found where you can change the MAC of the router. I couldn't change it to the one of my computer because that wouldn't have helped (the MAC that's allowed to the Internet being the router's and all) but I changed it to my flatmate's computer and set it up in her room. Which worked! And then I connected my baby laptop to the router via wireless and it woked as well. And then I told the network administrator to change the MAC back for my room to the one of my desktop so I can try the same here or at least connect the old fashioned way to the Internet, which didn't work. And I have absolutely no idea why. :(

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:32

    Well decline is a common English word, but not in that sense...

    I have spoken English all my life and I never realised decline meant anything other than how I normally use it :D

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:32

    It's decline... although not a common English word.

    thanks

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:33

    I have spoken English all my life and I never realised decline meant anything other than how I normally use it :D

    As I think you might say...

    "stupid hard language to learn. Why can't no just mean one thing!"

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:34

    thanks

    this has lead me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language_noun_cases and I think "Maalaan talon. Auta maalaamaan talo!" is my favourite sentence ever. So many a's!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:34

    Kathi are you on linux or windows?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 09:34

    Ross will be happy. Not only has his team secured funding, but I have it on a good source that he is going to be a grandfather.

    Good to hear. :)

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 09:35

    Ross will be happy. Not only has his team secured funding, but I have it on a good source that he is going to be a grandfather.

    He is having quite the week!

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 09:35

    eiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

    over here, 'ei' is a slang way of saying 'hi' or 'hey'. :D

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:35

    Kathi are you on linux or windows?

    linux

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 09:36

    He is having quite the week!

    It started on a great note - let's hope it ends on a great note too - with a win! :D

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:36

    this has lead me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language_noun_cases and I think "Maalaan talon. Auta maalaamaan talo!" is my favourite sentence ever. So many a's!

    Well now Bassano has finished drilling I might need to say that!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:37

    linux

    There are two MAC addresses on your computer... The computer MAC and the Wireless cards MAC... But if you are connecting directly you won't want the wireless MAC... But I'm not sure on Linux how you would tell the difference.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:38

    Well now Bassano has finished drilling I might need to say that!

    :D

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:38

    There are two MAC addresses on your computer... The computer MAC and the Wireless cards MAC... But if you are connecting directly you won't want the wireless MAC... But I'm not sure on Linux how you would tell the difference.

    easy my desktop doesn't have wireless :)

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:40

    There are two MAC addresses on your computer... The computer MAC and the Wireless cards MAC... But if you are connecting directly you won't want the wireless MAC... But I'm not sure on Linux how you would tell the difference.

    but I had that problem a few years ago with windows on my old laptop. Linux is much easier in that respect

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 09:40

    what's Finnish for noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!?

    Is it... nØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØ

    Don't be silly. We don't share that letter with the Finnish people!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:41

    easy my desktop doesn't have wireless :)

    Well then... Ummm... I think I'm stuck...

    Not sure how it's working if two devices have the same MAC.

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:41

    Don't be silly. We don't share that letter with the Finnish people!

    we wouldn't want it anyway. We are trying to use as few letters as possible

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 09:42

    eiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

    over here, 'ei' is a slang way of saying 'hi' or 'hey'. :D

    Does the Fonz live in the Philippines?

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:45

    Not sure how it's working if two devices have the same MAC.

    At the moment the router and my flatmate's computer have the same MAC and that doesn't seem to cause any problems. In my room I just tried to connect my desktop via lan to the network as it used to be. I probably accidentally changed something fundamental. I was planning on a new install anyway maybe that can solve it.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:46

    The "next Mark Webber" has been given an F1 test.

    Pshh, I'd rather have Hartley ;)

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 09:47

    Does the Fonz live in the Philippines?

    Nope. I blame it on txt (SMS) language. :D

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 09:48

    Potential weather for Spa.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 09:48

    The "next Mark Webber" has been given an F1 test.

    Pshh, I'd rather have Hartley ;)

    I saw him race in British F3 - it was shown here yesterday. He's pretty impressive, but I'm not sold on him - not yet, anyway.

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:48

    this has lead me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language_noun_cases and I think "Maalaan talon. Auta maalaamaan talo!" is my favourite sentence ever. So many a's!

    how about Lääkäri määräsi väärää päänsärkylääkettä ?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 09:49

    Potential weather for Spa.

    This is the kind of news Brawn will like - although they'd appreciate a sunny Saturday, too. :D

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:50

    how about Lääkäri määräsi väärää päänsärkylääkettä ?

    ooooh dotty a's! Whats the Finnish word for umlaut :D

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 09:50

    This is the kind of news Brawn will like - although they'd appreciate a sunny Saturday, too. :D

    Really? 18 degrees is nowhere near the 30s we saw in Valencia.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:50

    So are we thinking that Williams are close to announcing a Renault deal but it's dependent on Red Bull moving to Mercedes?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 09:51

    Potential weather for Spa.

    This is the kind of news Brawn will like - although they'd appreciate a sunny Saturday, too. :D

    18 deg is too cool for them though - and the circuit is fast and flowing. Expect Red Bull domination?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 09:51

    So are we thinking that Williams are close to announcing a Renault deal but it's dependent on Red Bull moving to Mercedes?

    Typical of Williams to get the bum deal :(

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:52

    Really? 18 degrees is nowhere near the 30s we saw in Valencia.

    18 would make me put my jacket on.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 09:52

    Typical of Williams to get the bum deal :(

    Better than Cosworth though!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 09:53

    Typical of Williams to get the bum deal :(

    Better than Cosworth though!

    Indeed it is!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 09:53

    Really? 18 degrees is nowhere near the 30s we saw in Valencia.

    18 would make me put my jacket on.

    Jacket on = Red Bull wins

    Jacket off = Brawn wins?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 09:55

    Really? 18 degrees is nowhere near the 30s we saw in Valencia.

    True, but they're even worse in the wet. And if Brawn are confident that they've fixed their tyre woes, the cooler conditions shouldn't affect them as much as it used to.

    Besides, have we ever gotten into the 30s at Spa? It's in the mountains!

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 09:56

    Better than Cosworth though!

    Agreed.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:56

    Jacket on = Red Bull wins

    Jacket off = Brawn wins?

    What if it's my McLaren jacket? Or my purple one? :D :D

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 09:56

    ooooh dotty a's! Whats the Finnish word for umlaut :D

    the dictionary says vokaalinmukaus never used it in Finnish lessons we always use hand gestures.

    the sentence means: the doctor prescribed the wrong headache-medicine.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:57

    What if it's my McLaren jacket? Or my purple one? :D :D

    What about the slippers situation?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 09:57

    the sentence means: the doctor prescribed the wrong headache-medicine.

    eiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 09:58

    True, but they're even worse in the wet. And if Brawn are confident that they've fixed their tyre woes, the cooler conditions shouldn't affect them as much as it used to.

    Are they though? I remember reading they "understood them" better, but I don't believe they're fixed.

    They had about as hot temperatures as they're going to get in Valencia, and Button was still nowhere.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:58

    the sentence means: the doctor prescribed the wrong headache-medicine.

    for some reason, German words that translate into entire sentences seem so much easier to understand than Finnish ones :D

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 09:59

    What about the slippers situation?

    they are worn regardless of the weather, as long as I am inside my house :D

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:00

    They had about as hot temperatures as they're going to get in Valencia, and Button was still nowhere.

    That was because he lost places at the start. Rubens was absolutely flying. Button's issue wasn't with the car - it was with his own performance.

    As for the tyres, I remember reading something about the team ensuring it won't happen again, or something similar. Lemme see if I can find it.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:03

    That was because he lost places at the start. Rubens was absolutely flying. Button's issue wasn't with the car - it was with his own performance.

    Perhaps you're right. I do think they will be struggling again this weekend though. It's Red Bull's chance to capitalise.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:04

    Perhaps you're right. I do think they will be struggling again this weekend though. It's Red Bull's chance to capitalise.

    I think they'll be second-best to RBR, but they should stay ahead of the rest. It'll be interesting to see if Jenson can get on the podium ahead of Kimi, Lewis, and most importantly, Rubens.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 10:05

    That was because he lost places at the start. Rubens was absolutely flying. Button's issue wasn't with the car - it was with his own performance.

    Perhaps you're right. I do think they will be struggling again this weekend though. It's Red Bull's chance to capitalise.

    It's Red Bull's weekend I think...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 10:05

    Perhaps you're right. I do think they will be struggling again this weekend though. It's Red Bull's chance to capitalise.

    I think they'll be second-best to RBR, but they should stay ahead of the rest. It'll be interesting to see if Jenson can get on the podium ahead of Kimi, Lewis, and most importantly, Rubens.

    I think Brawn will struggle, Kimi will do well and McLaren will be up there...

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:06

    It's Red Bull's weekend I think...

    That said, perhaps they fell back a bit in pace relative to the rest of the grid? They were nowhere in Valencia, where they should've at least been able to score a couple of points.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:07

    That said, perhaps they fell back a bit in pace relative to the rest of the grid? They were nowhere in Valencia, where they should've at least been able to score a couple of points.

    That's also true, and if they're messing about with KERS, they might not be focusing on the right things.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:08

    Regarding the tyre temps, looks like you're right, Christine. Perhaps Brawn think they've found a solution but won't really know due to the testing ban until Spa?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:10

    Regarding the tyre temps, looks like you're right, Christine. Perhaps Brawn think they've found a solution but won't really know due to the testing ban until Spa?

    Stupid testing ban. :)

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:20

    Did we know that Grosjean works part time in a bank?

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:21

    At the moment the router and my flatmate's computer have the same MAC and that doesn't seem to cause any problems

    i haven't read back through the comments yet, but isn't that impossible?

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:21

    Did we know that Grosjean works part time in a bank?

    what?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:22

    I think the biggest factor for Jenson is that different people look set to be winning races through the rest of the season rather than one team / driver dominating.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:22

    So are we thinking that Williams are close to announcing a Renault deal but it's dependent on Red Bull moving to Mercedes?

    Typical of Williams to get the bum deal :(

    what makes you think the renault engine is a bad engine? it only blows up inside a RBR.

    fact.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:22

    what?

    Preview quotes:

    RG: I stayed in Valencia for a day to enjoy the city and get some rest before I went home to Geneva. Then on Tuesday I went back to work at the bank* to keep in touch with reality! I think it's important to continue like this as I enjoy working there and this routine has always worked well for me in the past.

    *Romain works part-time at a bank in Geneva

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:22

    Did we know that Grosjean works part time in a bank?

    eh?

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:22

    *Romain works part-time at a bank in Geneva

    what??

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:22

    i haven't read back through the comments yet, but isn't that impossible?

    that's what I said.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:23

    RG: I stayed in Valencia for a day to enjoy the city and get some rest before I went home to Geneva. Then on Tuesday I went back to work at the bank* to keep in touch with reality! I think it's important to continue like this as I enjoy working there and this routine has always worked well for me in the past.

    awesome!

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:23

    I think the biggest factor for Jenson is that different people look set to be winning races through the rest of the season rather than one team / driver dominating.

    That'll favor him, but he needs to score more than he currently is, otherwise, that won't help him much.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:24

    what makes you think the renault engine is a bad engine? it only blows up inside a RBR.

    Less grunt than a Merc?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:24

    I'm writing these comments from the back of a cab.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:24

    that's what I said.

    mac codes are vendor assigned. so your router would need to be made by the same manufacturer as your pc, and then they must've screwed up by selecting the same unique number for x2 products?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:24

    *Romain works part-time at a bank in Geneva

    So he's fast AND smart AND knows how to make money?

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 10:24

    Did we know that Grosjean works part time in a bank?

    I read that for the first time about a week ago, I believe the quote I read said "until recently" at the start though, implying that he had quit the job.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:25

    So he's fast AND smart AND knows how to make money?

    This is not what I understand about bankers.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:25

    Less grunt than a Merc?

    really? after being retuned earlier in the year. i don't believe it.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 10:26

    I read that for the first time about a week ago, I believe the quote I read said "until recently" at the start though, implying that he had quit the job.

    ahh it was The "Mole"

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/2009/08/why-rookie-romain-grosjean-is.html

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:26

    So he's fast AND smart AND knows how to make money?

    This is not what I understand about bankers.

    hahahaha. i have to say, while it's a fun thing to be doing. he really should be concentrating on f1, right?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:28

    This is not what I understand about bankers.

    :D Have you ever seen a poor banker?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:28

    hahahaha. i have to say, while it's a fun thing to be doing. he really should be concentrating on f1, right?

    hehe. well, different drivers do different things to keep themselves pre-occupied with something other than F1. it just so happens that romain's is... banking? :-/

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:28

    :D Have you ever seen a poor banker?

    yup. met a few too.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:29

    yup. met a few too.

    really? i've never seen one here in my entire life.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:29

    really? i've never seen one here in my entire life.

    maybe it's the culture?

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 10:30

    yup. met a few too.

    I live with one, although that might be the fact she is a serious boozehag so 90% of her nice bank salary goes on wine

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:32

    maybe it's the culture?

    did they not bring about the downfall of your economy too? or was that just ours?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 10:34

    did they not bring about the downfall of your economy too? or was that just ours?

    every single day. that said, the recent recession wasn't so bad for us - there's wasn't that far for us to fall from.

  • F1Wolf26/08/2009 at 10:35

    *Romain works part-time at a bank in Geneva

    he is allowed to do that with that hairstyle ?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:36

    did they not bring about the downfall of your economy too? or was that just ours?

    oh yeah... Sorry about that ;)

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 10:37

    i haven't read back through the comments yet, but isn't that impossible?

    Oh? Maybe I didn't express myself well. The router projects the MAC address of my flatmate's computer to the 'outside' network. Is that possible?

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:37

    Then I found where you can change the MAC of the router. I couldn't change it to the one of my computer because that wouldn't have helped (the MAC that's allowed to the Internet being the router's and all) but I changed it to my flatmate's computer and set it up in her room. Which worked!

    ahh, it helps if i read the start of the conversation. you can spoof MAC addresses no problem, they're not like IP addresses, they don't really do anything other than identify a piece of hardware.

    And then I connected my baby laptop to the router via wireless and it woked as well. And then I told the network administrator to change the MAC back for my room to the one of my desktop so I can try the same here or at least connect the old fashioned way to the Internet, which didn't work. And I have absolutely no idea why. :(

    not sure i understand this bit though...

  • F1Wolf26/08/2009 at 10:37

    did they not bring about the downfall of your economy too? or was that just ours?

    was it bankers or those who kept looking the other way for X years while the bubble was growing bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger ?

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:37

    oh yeah... Sorry about that ;)

    :D

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:38

    was it bankers or those who kept looking the other way for X years while the bubble was growing bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger ?

    It was bankers.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:38

    Oh? Maybe I didn't express myself well. The router projects the MAC address of my flatmate's computer to the 'outside' network. Is that possible?

    yep. that bit makes sense now. i can't fathom why your desktop isn't working though?

  • F1Wolf26/08/2009 at 10:40

    It was bankers.

    knowing some I am inclined to agree :-) but they did have some partners in crime ...

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:41

    It was bankers.

    hehe. in fairness i'd have done the same. however, i do know a couple of bankers who used to be well off, and now are significantly well off.

    i guess it depends on what romain is doing though. is he just working behind the desk stamping cheques?

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:41

    hehe. in fairness i'd have done the same. however, i do know a couple of bankers who used to be well off, and now are LESS significantly well off.

    damnit.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:42

    damnit.

    that doesn't make sense either. i'm off back to bed.

  • F1Wolf26/08/2009 at 10:44

    that doesn't make sense either.

    that is the quote I have been using for years when the bank people were offering me this and that banking product :-)

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:44

    that is the quote I have been using for years when the bank people were offering me this and that banking product :-)

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 10:45

    So are we thinking that Williams are close to announcing a Renault deal but it's dependent on Red Bull moving to Mercedes?

    Typical of Williams to get the bum deal :(

    what makes you think the renault engine is a bad engine? it only blows up inside a RBR.

    fact.

    Maybe it's a slightly different spec to the engine in the Renault?

    I would rather have a Merc Engine anyway - then I would be able to add KERS if I wanted to...

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:46

    Maybe it's a slightly different spec to the engine in the Renault?

    it's not. it's the same engine.

    I would rather have a Merc Engine anyway - then I would be able to add KERS if I wanted to...

    renault had kers at the start of the year?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:47

    renault had kers at the start of the year?

    Do you think they might bring it back if RBR do?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 10:47

    I would rather have a Merc Engine anyway - then I would be able to add KERS if I wanted to...

    renault had kers at the start of the year?

    And they abandoned it. McLaren embraced it and proved it. Brawn were offered it but couldn't because it would make the car overweight.

    I think given a choice I would go for Merc.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:48

    It was bankers.

    without wanting to get too philosophical about it...

    The bankers are basically just doing their jobs which is to make as much money as possible.

    If we don't want what happened to happen again then somebody better change the rules. It's the lack of political will to do so which causes the problem.

    This isn't a defence of the bankers they did stupid things which were irresponsible. But basically they are like people who's job it is go go an play in the casino all day and when they run out of money they just come back for more. They can't fail because whenever they do somebody got some more money to give them.

    If there's no consequence for faliure and therefore only upside why wouldn't you keep going?

    It's a political problem. But it's the bankers fault for exploitingthe current system.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 10:49

    It's a political problem. But it's the bankers fault for exploitingthe current system.

    Same as the expenses row.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:50

    Do you think they might bring it back if RBR do?

    they are said to have been considering it too according to autosport.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 10:51

    It was bankers.

    without wanting to get too philosophical about it...

    The bankers are basically just doing their jobs which is to make as much money as possible.

    If we don't want what happened to happen again then somebody better change the rules. It's the lack of political will to do so which causes the problem.

    This isn't a defence of the bankers they did stupid things which were irresponsible. But basically they are like people who's job it is go go an play in the casino all day and when they run out of money they just come back for more. They can't fail because whenever they do somebody got some more money to give them.

    If there's no consequence for faliure and therefore only upside why wouldn't you keep going?

    It's a political problem. But it's the bankers fault for exploitingthe current system.

    That sounds a little too much like a Nuremberg defence for my liking. The culture is rotten to the core and nothing has changed :(

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:52

    Do you think they might bring it back if RBR do?

    not sure. renault have one of the smallest budgets in f1, they've lost a major sponsor and might be trying to sell the team. none of that says "let's spend more money on kers".

    am wondering if the deal with williams would see renault run williams' flywheel system next year?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:53

    Same as the expenses row.

    and to bring it back to F1 the double diffusers.

    I think we would have got much better racing this year if the FIA had said, "look yes well done you found a loophole, what you did was technically legal, but not what we meant to happen. So we'll let your current results stand and the next two races, but after that it's banned."

    we have much more overtaking if this had happened.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:54

    If there's no consequence for faliure and therefore only upside why wouldn't you keep going?

    agreed.

    It's a political problem. But it's the bankers fault for exploitingthe current system.

    the problem is it's a global political problem. rather than a local one, and worldwide regulation changes take for ever. assuming they can happen at all.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:54

    we have much more overtaking if this had happened.

    really? i doubt it.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:54

    That sounds a little too much like a Nuremberg defence for my liking. The culture is rotten to the core and nothing has changed :(

    well that's my point. They Are just following orders etc. But nothing's changed now at the top except they've proven that if they take on too much risk the government will save them.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 10:56

    we have much more overtaking if this had happened.

    really? i doubt it.

    So do I. Kazuki said on the Williams podcast that if they ran Spa at the beginning of the year, Eau Rouge would not be taken flat out. He thinks that it will be this week. IIRC that means we are already back to the aero levels of last year - so it's a major fail for the OWG.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:57

    That sounds a little too much like a Nuremberg defence for my liking. The culture is rotten to the core and nothing has changed :(

    not necessarily true. it's as much a technology problem as a people problem. a significant percentage of banking is electronic, automated and running 24/7. the boundaries of execution aren't restrictive enough and were designed for a previous era.

    as alex says, the price of failure isn't great enough either. the tax payer is now expected to bail every mistake out.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 10:58

    That sounds a little too much like a Nuremberg defence for my liking. The culture is rotten to the core and nothing has changed :(

    not necessarily true. it's as much a technology problem as a people problem. a significant percentage of banking is electronic, automated and running 24/7. the boundaries of execution aren't restrictive enough and were designed for a previous era.

    as alex says, the price of failure isn't great enough either. the tax payer is now expected to bail every mistake out.

    Nuremberg defence for computers: "I was only doing what my program told me to"?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 10:59

    really? i doubt it.

    I think a lot of trouble for the overtaking is the dirty air from the diffuser. I think the KERS was more effective earlier in the season before the other teams got their defussers.

  • me26/08/2009 at 10:59

    Nuremberg defence for computers: "I was only doing what my program told me to"?

    sorry, i was responding to:

    "The culture is rotten to the core and nothing has changed :("

    i don't think it's rotten to the core.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:00

    i don't think it's rotten to the core.

    rotten to the core dump ;)

  • me26/08/2009 at 11:01

    I think a lot of trouble for the overtaking is the dirty air from the diffuser. I think the KERS was more effective earlier in the season before the other teams got their defussers.

    i don't agree. this years aero rules are major fail in every respect. you can't pick out the diffusers as the problem solver, because non-diffuser cars couldn't be followed in melbourne either.

    the regs didn't work. none of them.

  • me26/08/2009 at 11:01

    rotten to the core dump ;)

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 11:01

    Nuremberg defence for computers: "I was only doing what my program told me to"?

    sorry, i was responding to:

    "The culture is rotten to the core and nothing has changed :("

    i don't think it's rotten to the core.

    I do, when the bankers are allowed to run free, the bosses get off scot-free because the taxpayer bails them out while still giving themselves bonuses, and the former finance minister is allowed to continue as Prime Minister even though he failed at restraining the bankers...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 11:02

    I think a lot of trouble for the overtaking is the dirty air from the diffuser. I think the KERS was more effective earlier in the season before the other teams got their defussers.

    i don't agree. this years aero rules are major fail in every respect. you can't pick out the diffusers as the problem solver, because non-diffuser cars couldn't be followed in melbourne either.

    the regs didn't work. none of them.

    Too much wing, not enough reliance on mechanical grip. It can be done in one-make single seater series...

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:04

    It's not rotten to the core. It's an extremely odd profession.

    For example I was working on a trading floor in London on September 11th. Several people I knew died in the twin towers.

    What are the people in the bank supposed to do? Morn their friends, down tools and hope everyone else does or should they trade?

    Sadly they have to trade because if they don't the pension you've worked hard for your whole life is now worthless because somebody was being respectful.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:05

    Sadly they have to trade because if they don't the pension you've worked hard for your whole life is now worthless because somebody was being respectful.

    in this I mean somebody who doesn't work at a bank but who's pensions are held at a bank.

  • me26/08/2009 at 11:05

    I do, when the bankers are allowed to run free, the bosses get off scot-free because the taxpayer bails them out while still giving themselves bonuses, and the former finance minister is allowed to continue as Prime Minister even though he failed at restraining the bankers...

    i'm not gonna try and convince you. but you are of course aware that you don't work in finance, so presumably you're only taking on board what you've read in the media (daily mail maybe?).

    the people i know who do this (or used to do this), are not rotten to the core, did not get off scot free and didn't give themselves massive bonuses.

  • me26/08/2009 at 11:11

    the former finance minister is allowed to continue as Prime Minister even though he failed at restraining the bankers...

    not sure you read my previous comment, but it's a worldwide problem.

    it's not a local issue that local government can solve on it's own, less we do a north korea and opt out of the world.

    you fire one man, you might make a couple of people happy, but you haven't solved the issue. you've found a scape goat.

    just ask davey ryan.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 11:12

    it's not a local issue that local government can solve on it's own, less we do a north korea and opt out of the world.

    Can we opt out of the world by ourselves on Rockall, pls?

  • me26/08/2009 at 11:14

    Can we opt out of the world by ourselves on Rockall, pls?

    hehe. no. we don't make anything, grow anything or have a tourist industry.

    we're kinda like switzerland in that respect.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:14

    we're kinda like switzerland in that respect.

    I think the swiss make those clocks...

    Ooooh and don't forget toblerone!

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 11:15

    hehe. no. we don't make anything, grow anything or have a tourist industry.

    Come see Rockall, it's kinda... rocky?

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:15

    we're kinda like switzerland in that respect.

    I want to go to Switzerland!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:18

    Come see Rockall, it's kinda... rocky?

    There's not a lot of room is there?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Rockall-photo.JPG/300px-Rockall-photo.JPG

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 11:18

    There's not a lot of room is there?

    Come to Rockall - you'll be amazed how small it is!

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 11:19

    I'm hoooooome :D

    Longest.2.days.EVER.

    I shall give you the low-down in a minute :D

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:19

    Come to Rockall - you'll be amazed how small it is!

    Come to Rockall - it's not always got a wave smashing against it

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:19

    I shall give you the low-down in a minute :D

    I think you should do a dance while you do it so it is a low-down ho-down

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:20

    Come to Rockall - it's not always got a wave smashing against it

    Come to Rockall - it's not on any maps!

  • me26/08/2009 at 11:21

    There's not a lot of room is there?

    see, you're picture makes it look smaller than it really is...

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:21

    I think you should do a dance while you do it so it is a low-down ho-down

    while listening to Miley Cyrus so its a low-down ho-down hoe-down throw-down?

  • me26/08/2009 at 11:21

    see, you're picture makes it look smaller than it really is...

    come to rockall, it's bigger than you think:

    http://www.cifr.it/Rockall 102 June 2005.jpg

  • me26/08/2009 at 11:22

    come to rockall, it's bigger than you think!

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:23

    come to rockall, it's bigger than you think!

    ooh it is too!

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 11:23

    I think you should do a dance while you do it so it is a low-down ho-down

    oh how i've missed you all ;)

    I went through a contraflow earlier and was like..NO!!! DONT DO IT!!

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 11:23

    come to rockall, it's bigger than you think!

    I'm pretty sure, with a bit of jiggery pokery, we could get a hotel sorted.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 11:23

    I do, when the bankers are allowed to run free, the bosses get off scot-free because the taxpayer bails them out while still giving themselves bonuses, and the former finance minister is allowed to continue as Prime Minister even though he failed at restraining the bankers...

    i'm not gonna try and convince you. but you are of course aware that you don't work in finance, so presumably you're only taking on board what you've read in the media (daily mail maybe?).

    the people i know who do this (or used to do this), are not rotten to the core, did not get off scot free and didn't give themselves massive bonuses.

    Well you are right about the media but I normally go for the BBC over the Daily Mail TBH ;)

    And I do feel sorry for most of the bankers - but not those who are in power or allowed this system to prevail...

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 11:25

    I'm pretty sure, with a bit of jiggery pokery, we could get a hotel sorted.

    A bit like this: http://www.vkblog.nl/pub/mm/tempest/39529/Image/Rockall3.jpg

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:26

    I'm pretty sure, with a bit of jiggery pokery, we could get a hotel sorted.

    The only flat bit is 11 ft by 4 ft.

    Rockall... Mr C could lie down... that must mean it's pretty big!

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:29

    A bit like this: http://www.vkblog.nl/pub/mm/tempest/39529/Image/Rockall3.jpg

    I had never heard of this famous rock until today. Sidepodcast. Educational.

    NZ doesn't have famous rocks, but we did have an iceberg. We sheared a sheep on it.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 11:30

    A bit like this: http://www.vkblog.nl/pub/mm/tempest/39529/Image/Rockall3.jpg

    I had never heard of this famous rock until today. Sidepodcast. Educational.

    NZ doesn't have famous rocks, but we did have an iceberg. We sheared a sheep on it.

    OMG I am embarrassed to be a Kiwi now!

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:30

    OMG I am embarrassed to be a Kiwi now!

    I am embarrassed that sheep became "famous" in the first place

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:33

    Hold on... Nick Hancock is going to go and live on rockall in 2011. I thought sidepodcast owned it fair and square.

    Goodness... you think it's all over...

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 11:33

    Longest Week of my life:

    http://jonwaldock.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/jons-guide-to-the-mayhem-that-is-results-day/

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 11:33

    OMG I am embarrassed to be a Kiwi now!

    I am embarrassed that sheep became "famous" in the first place

    It just makes the sheep jokes continue :(

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 11:34

    Hold on... Nick Hancock is going to go and live on rockall in 2011. I thought sidepodcast owned it fair and square.

    WHAT?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:34

    Gavin... Apparently the Danes have a claim on Rockall too!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:34

    WHAT?

    http://www.rockall2011.com/index.html

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:34

    I am embarrassed that sheep became "famous" in the first place

    oh oh oh I just found the blog I wrote at the time it all happened:

    THIS SHEEP. IT'S JUST A SHEEP. If a human didn't cut their hair in that long they wouldn't get to meet the Prime Minister and get paid $10,000 to appear at corporate seminars.

    CORPORATE SEMINARS!

    What can a sheep offer to the business world?

    and my friend commented

    Apparently if you sat through the HOLMES SPECIAL of the shearing, you were rewarded with the spectacle of Paul snapping at some kids behind him "Don't wave! The people at home find it very annoying when you wave!" The moral of the story being, next time you see something as stupid as a sheep being shorn live on national television AT PRIMETIME you should watch it, because something unintentionally hilarious will probably happen.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 11:36

    Gavin... Apparently the Danes have a claim on Rockall too!

    Then it's clearly Danish then!

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 11:37

    http://www.rockall2011.com/index.html

    And he's doing it all for chairty too, which makes it really hard to complain.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 11:38

    oh oh oh I just found the blog I wrote at the time it all happened:

    THIS SHEEP. IT'S JUST A SHEEP. If a human didn't cut their hair in that long they wouldn't get to meet the Prime Minister and get paid $10,000 to appear at corporate seminars.

    CORPORATE SEMINARS!

    What can a sheep offer to the business world?

    and my friend commented

    Apparently if you sat through the HOLMES SPECIAL of the shearing, you were rewarded with the spectacle of Paul snapping at some kids behind him "Don't wave! The people at home find it very annoying when you wave!" The moral of the story being, next time you see something as stupid as a sheep being shorn live on national television AT PRIMETIME you should watch it, because something unintentionally hilarious will probably happen.

    You have a blog?

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 11:39

    How are we all today?

    This conversation looks both exciting and interesting but i'm a missing a little too much sleep to truly understand it!

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:39

    You have a blog?

    From the deep dark archives of my 2004 Livejournal :D

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:43

    Longest Week of my life:

    woah you sound busy, and even though I have no idea what half of that jargon means (what on earth is 'clearing' anyway?) I am tired just reading it. And thankful getting into uni in NZ was super, super easy.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 11:45

    (what on earth is 'clearing' anyway?)

    It's what people do when they do rubbish in their exams :D all the places that arent filled can be accessed through clearing

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:45

    It's what people do when they do rubbish in their exams :D all the places that arent filled can be accessed through clearing

    ahh ok. I thought you were doing teaching but obviously you changed your mind. Motorsport sounds like fuuuuun.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 11:46

    ahh ok. I thought you were doing teaching but obviously you changed your mind. Motorsport sounds like fuuuuun.

    I'm going to do teaching as a post-grad course, the motorsport is one that is just tooooo good to turn down

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 11:48

    I'm going to do teaching as a post-grad course, the motorsport is one that is just tooooo good to turn down

    fair enough, the people I know who did a 3 year teaching degree had a lot less fun than the people I know who did a 3 year anything-else-degree and then a 1 year postgrad teaching diploma:D

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 12:55

    If we don't want what happened to happen again then somebody better change the rules. It's the lack of political will to do so which causes the problem.

    The only reason the rules were so open was because of the massive political contributions coming out of individuals in the city...

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 12:58

    The only reason the rules were so open was because of the massive political contributions coming out of individuals in the city...

    HAving said that i went through university wanting to work in the city, and now i cant because it all went wrong...

    In anycase good afternoon everyone, still yet to find a shop which sells F1 Racing. Are you guys sure it hasnt gone out of print?

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:01

    The only reason the rules were so open was because of the massive political contributions coming out of individuals in the city...

    fact? or generalisation?

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:01

    In anycase good afternoon everyone, still yet to find a shop which sells F1 Racing. Are you guys sure it hasnt gone out of print?

    hehe. print died?

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:03

    In anycase good afternoon everyone, still yet to find a shop which sells F1 Racing. Are you guys sure it hasnt gone out of print?

    I like subscription because its cheaper and I don't have to leave the house. I wouldn't have a clue where to buy a copy!

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:05

    fact? or generalisation?

    Probably best decribed as an 'obstacle'

    Its hard to know how big the problem really is in terms of pressure on the governement, but its clear the rules were left open and the money kept roling in

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:07

    I like subscription because its cheaper and I don't have to leave the house. I wouldn't have a clue where to buy a copy!

    I havent read the UK version in years... Which may be due to the fact noone stocks it.

    I cant see them attracting many new subscribers if people cant read the magazine in the first place as its so poorly distributed

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:21

    There is A WH Smith not too far away which stocks pretty much every magazine in the country... I need another excuse to go there as the parking is pretty pricey at £1 per hour and its a bit of a drive....

    Ridiculous question... what else can i buy when i go to town?

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 13:22

    Ridiculous question... what else can i buy when i go to town?

    Only from Smiths or are other shops available?

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:22

    search for sidepodcast on Twitter - it'll come up. :D i just found him when i was searching for the #f1 tag.

    I still have no idea...

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:23

    Only from Smiths or are other shops available?

    Lots of other shops.

    The town is Staines (of Ali G fame) has pretty much all major high street brands apart from currys

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:24

    I still have no idea...

    It was on Page 1. :P

    http://twitter.com/Luisjoset

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:24

    The town is Staines (of Ali G fame) has pretty much all major high street brands apart from currys

    I could go to Woking as well, its closer but parking costs even more at £1.40 an hour!

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 13:24

    Lots of other shops.

    Hmm. Buy a new t-shirt.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:26

    Hmm. Buy a new t-shirt.

    oooh i could become like alex and buy collared shirts :P

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 13:27

    oooh i could become like alex and buy collared shirts :P

    Coool :)

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:28

    There is A WH Smith not too far away which stocks pretty much every magazine in the country... I need another excuse to go there as the parking is pretty pricey at £1 per hour and its a bit of a drive....

    actually you have reminded me that we have this shop who sell every magazine I have ever heard of and then some. I bought my dad some UK MG magazine for Christmas that he'd never heard of before. Plus they have free wifi so when I had no home I stayed there most of the day :D

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:29

    actually you have reminded me that we have this shop who sell every magazine I have ever heard of and then some. I bought my dad some UK MG magazine for Christmas that he'd never heard of before. Plus they have free wifi so when I had no home I stayed there most of the day :D

    hehe, my one isnt that hardcore, it just has a bigger magazine rack than most ;)

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:30

    hehe, my one isnt that hardcore, it just has a bigger magazine rack than most ;)

    so...many..magazines...on...caravans...

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:31

    so...many..magazines...on...caravans...

    Perhaps i should buy one and a running magazine and make a comparison as to which is worthwhile? :P

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:34

    Perhaps i should buy one and a running magazine and make a comparison as to which is worthwhile? :P

    for caravans I recommend this one, because not only is it about caravans, its practical.

    I used to read Runners World because a subscription kept turning up in our mailbox for someone who doesn't live at our house. It was quite interesting, and I hate running.

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:34

    I still have no idea...

    It was on Page 1. :P

    http://twitter.com/Luisjoset

    what have i missed?

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:35

    what have i missed?

    you are an "Excelente podcast"

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:35

    There's this Spanish guy on Twitter also recommending SPC, F1M, and the Big Picture. Good job! :D

    ooh. didn't see that. nice.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:35

    you are an "Excelente podcast"

    :D

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:36

    you are an "Excelente podcast"

    hehe.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:36

    ooh. didn't see that. nice.

    better thank him, then. ;)

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:36

    Has Ted News been reported?

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:36

    Perhaps i should buy one and a running magazine and make a comparison as to which is worthwhile? :P

    are you collecting them for a museum?

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:37

    better thank him, then. ;)

    how do you know so much about twitter, yet don't have an account?

    which fake f1 driver are you journeyer?

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:37

    are you collecting them for a museum?

    hehehe, no i am just preparing for winter ;)

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:38

    hehehe, no i am just preparing for winter ;)

    :D

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:38

    you are an "Excelente podcast"

    And also Sober!

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:40

    how do you know so much about twitter, yet don't have an account?

    yes! why make one when you have the power of search! ;)

    which fake f1 driver are you journeyer?

    hmmm... :D

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:41

    yes! why make one when you have the power of search! ;)

    Twitter search? I hate it...

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:42

    yes! why make one when you have the power of search! ;)

    because without one you can't watch a Finn play cricket?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:43

    because without one you can't watch a Finn play cricket?

    :P

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:43

    because without one you can't watch a Finn play cricket?

    I am yet to find this feature?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:43

    Twitter search? I hate it...

    why? it's pretty good, actually.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:44

    I am yet to find this feature?

    you don't remember Amy's foray into cricket on Melbourne Friday?

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:46

    The fact i couldn't find the guy who posted about sidepodcast suggests it must have some pretty big defficiencies

    I have no idea why but it misses stuff

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:46

    you don't remember Amy's foray into cricket on Melbourne Friday?

    Ah i do, but i wasnt here then.

    She was about a foot away from lewis if i recall correctly...

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:47

    Common sense is coming to the world, one country at a time... 1st up Samoa

    :P

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:47

    yes! why make one when you have the power of search! ;)

    i guess. but with an account you could use tweetdeck to search. and then you could group and filter too (take note nick).

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:48

    The fact i couldn't find the guy who posted about sidepodcast suggests it must have some pretty big defficiencies

    I usually leave a tab open with #f1 search results. It just came up there, surprisingly. :D

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:48

    i guess. but with an account you could use tweetdeck to search. and then you could group and filter too (take note nick).

    oooh... i'm just lazy. haha! :D probably also goes some way to explain why i'm not in facebook, either...

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:49

    i guess. but with an account you could use tweetdeck to search. and then you could group and filter too (take note nick).

    Thats what i have been using, but when i couldnt find Spanish dude on there i searched on the twitter site this morning and still got nadda.

    Twitters rubbish, from now on, people who i don't follow don't exist.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:49

    Has Ted News been reported?

    Nice! Ted linked to an FOM video on YouTube? From their DVD, no less? Tsk, tsk... :P :D

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:50

    Thats what i have been using, but when i couldnt find Spanish dude on there i searched on the twitter site this morning and still got nadda.

    what did you search for? it came up right away when i searched for sidepodcast.

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:50

    Twitters rubbish, from now on, people who i don't follow don't exist.

    hehe. people i block don't exist.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:50

    hehe. people i block don't exist.

    :D

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:51

    hehe. people i block don't exist.

    I dont block anyone, if they wish to hear the pearls of wisdom it is not my place to stop them...

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:52

    what did you search for? it came up right away when i searched for sidepodcast.

    Sidepodcast. Twitter main site no longer exists.... People who I dont follow dont exist, so clearly this guy doesn't exist ;)

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 13:53

    oooh i could become like alex and buy collared shirts :P

    It's the future!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 13:53

    actually you have reminded me that we have this shop who sell every magazine I have ever heard of and then some. I bought my dad some UK MG magazine for Christmas that he'd never heard of before. Plus they have free wifi so when I had no home I stayed there most of the day :D

    wifi in a magazine shop? eh?

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:54

    I dont block anyone, if they wish to hear the pearls of wisdom it is not my place to stop them...

    i use it so that i don't have to hear them.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:54

    wifi in a magazine shop? eh?

    they also have coffee

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:55

    Has JA's latest post been mentioned?

    They've ruled out Bourdais and Piquet apparently:

    they didn’t want to be seen taking on other people’s rejects.

    And JA is also talking about a young driver program. Given how Ferrari works (always hiring proven experienced drivers), I think this may be a bit of a poisoned chalice. But I do admit that this Badoer situation shows that they need one.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:56

    i use it so that i don't have to hear them.

    Ah, unfortunately nobody has become that interested in me...

    Whats this i hear about RG working in a bank and conveniently going on holiday whilst he is making his F1 debut?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 13:56

    they also have coffee

    mmmmm coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    I like coffeeeee and wifi... but why do they have to clutter up the place with magazines? ;)

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:56

    Whats this i hear about RG working in a bank and conveniently going on holiday whilst he is making his F1 debut?

    he's sooo over the tennis ;)

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:57

    I like coffeeeee and wifi... but why do they have to clutter up the place with magazines? ;)

    ahh to give you something to read and then put back and not actually buy.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 13:57

    And JA is also talking about a young driver program. Given how Ferrari works (always hiring proven experienced drivers), I think this may be a bit of a poisoned chalice. But I do admit that this Badoer situation shows that they need one.

    As I was explaining the other day... Massa and Kimi are former drivers from the Ferrari program at Sauber.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:57

    Has JA's latest post been mentioned?

    I have 3 categories for James Allen posts.

    Informative, Speculative and James Allen. This post defiantly falls into category 3

  • me26/08/2009 at 13:57

    And JA is also talking about a young driver program. Given how Ferrari works (always hiring proven experienced drivers), I think this may be a bit of a poisoned chalice. But I do admit that this Badoer situation shows that they need one.

    the have a young driver program already.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:57

    Whats this i hear about RG working in a bank and conveniently going on holiday whilst he is making his F1 debut?

    RG is in F1?! I thought he was just on vacation! :P

    Ahhhh, you mean Romain... :D Poor RG - first he has to share his name with Mr. Garros, now he has Mr. Grosjean to share it with...

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 13:58

    Informative, Speculative and James Allen. This post defiantly falls into category 3

    I think you should rename category 3 to GET IN THERE

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 13:59

    I think you should rename category 3 to GET IN THERE

    :)

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:59

    the have a young driver program already.

    Well, they had one, when Jean Todt was around. That only produced Raikkonen and Massa - which to be fair, shows that it did work. But if there's an Alonso or a Vettel out there who's better than what they have, they'll automatically go for that over their own stable.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 13:59

    I think you should rename category 3 to GET IN THERE

    hehe, maybe i should shout it as i file stuff in that bin :P

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 13:59

    I think you should rename category 3 to GET IN THERE

    :D

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:00

    Well, they had one, when Jean Todt was around. That only produced Raikkonen and Massa - which to be fair, shows that it did work. But if there's an Alonso or a Vettel out there who's better than what they have, they'll automatically go for that over their own stable.

    who are the young drivers they keep sending around maranello once a year then?

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 14:01

    who are the young drivers they keep sending around maranello once a year then?

    the ones who are soooo good they break lap records and are never heard from again?

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:01

    the ones who are soooo good they break lap records and are never heard from again?

    i dunno. there was three or four last year. f3 drivers maybe?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:02

    who are the young drivers they keep sending around maranello once a year then?

    ahhh, bortolotti. but JA seems to completely ignore him here. from what i understand, that was just a one-off test with no long-term guarantees?

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:06

    ahhh, bortolotti. but JA seems to completely ignore him here. from what i understand, that was just a one-off test with no long-term guarantees?

    i think what ferrari need. are better test/reserve drivers.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:09

    I realised that I missed out something earlier... When Mr C was suggesting that the rear diffuser wasn't the only problem for overtaking.

    I agree it isn't the only problem... What I was suggesting in clarifying the rules and giving the teams two races to deal with the clarified rules was a thought about how many more of these issues could be dealt with. As tricks and issues came to light after the rule shift the FIA could have reacted in a slow and measured way to plug the gaps in the rules.

    As for the diffuser I think it still is the largest of the problems this season, and has been getting worse. I remember several sidepodcasters (including Mr C praising the OWG in Australia) - but I may be wrong.

    Here's Ted this week:

    Barrichello was doing this so he could run in some clean air, and not have his aerodynamics ruined by the turbulence of the McLaren (this is a really big problem, now, and is the subject of much discussion by the FIA technical and overtaking working groups).

    From: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/2009/08/ted-kravitz-the-european-gp-fr.html

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:10

    i think what ferrari need. are better test/reserve drivers.

    badoer was a very good tester, i think. otherwise, ferrari wouldn't have kept him so long. that said, he's not a very good racer - at all. a young driver program for ferrari would need a junior race team to make it work. i imagine it would something like - from the lower formulae, they become a Ferrari reserve driver, then a racer in the junior team, then they get called up to the race team (kinda like massa). but if massa and kimi had sauber, who can Ferrari work with now?

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:11

    I remember several sidepodcasters (including Mr C praising the OWG in Australia) - but I may be wrong.

    i bloody hope you're wrong. this years cars a vile and the OWG suck.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:11

    Barrichello was doing this so he could run in some clean air, and not have his aerodynamics ruined by the turbulence of the McLaren (this is a really big problem, now, and is the subject of much discussion by the FIA technical and overtaking working groups).

    At least they're admitting there's a problem, and the FIA and FOTA are working together (for once) to fix it.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 14:14

    At least they're admitting there's a problem, and the FIA and FOTA are working together (for once) to fix it.

    They hope they haven't decided to attack the cars with the ugly stick again...

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:16

    They hope they haven't decided to attack the cars with the ugly stick again...

    In effect, I think all they need to do to make them un-ugly is to widen the rear wing back to 2008 dimensions.

    Question is, will it solve the problem of overtaking or make it worse?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:16

    i bloody hope you're wrong. this years cars a vile and the OWG suck.

    I may have been slightly drunk hungover in Australia... There was a lot of suggestion near the beginning of the race that it had helped overtaking.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:17

    I may have been slightly drunk hungover in Australia... There was a lot of suggestion near the beginning of the race that it had helped overtaking.

    It did... for a while. I suspect the DDD may have ruined that to some degree.

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:18

    I may have been slightly drunk hungover in Australia... There was a lot of suggestion near the beginning of the race that it had helped overtaking.

    we suggested before we saw the race that overtaking was improved? you're confusing us with the autosport forum, sir

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 14:19

    I may have been slightly drunk hungover in Australia... There was a lot of suggestion near the beginning of the race that it had helped overtaking.

    Also, it's Australia. Nothing counts.

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:19

    It did... for a while. I suspect the DDD may have ruined that to some degree.

    it didn't? melbourne was a crash fest as per usual. the second race was wet and bahrain was rubbish.

    i didn't and hasn't helped in the slightest.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:19

    Also, it's Australia. Nothing counts.

    It also worked in Malaysia - I saw more passes there than there have been for ages. But it got less and less effective as the season passed.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:20

    it didn't? melbourne was a crash fest as per usual. the second race was wet and bahrain was rubbish.

    the second race started dry - and there was lots of overtaking before any rain fell.

    bahrain was a bit rubbish, yes.

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 14:20

    *takes a sidepodpitstop to change his nose as its being a pain in the backside*

    I hate rubbish colds!!!!!!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:20

    we suggested before we saw the race that overtaking was improved? you're confusing us with the autosport forum, sir

    Well no... you said, "so overtaking improved?" and Jon Waldock said, "looks like it has, I hate it when the FIA are right".

    I interpreted it as you saying overtaking was improved... as I say I had only had about 2 hours sleep at the time.

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:20

    It also worked in Malaysia - I saw more passes there than there have been for ages. But it got less and less effective as the season passed.

    it ****** it down?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:21

    *takes a sidepodpitstop to change his nose as its being a pain in the backside*

    how do you change your nose? ;)

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:21

    It also worked in Malaysia - I saw more passes there than there have been for ages. But it got less and less effective as the season passed.

    That was my memory

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:22

    I interpreted it as you saying overtaking was improved... as I say I had only had about 2 hours sleep at the time.

    i hope i didn't mean that. i've hated the new regs since they were introduced.

    they're stupid and the people who suggested them are stupid. i despise everything about them (including the silly movable wing).

    just for the record, like.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:23

    it ****** it down?

    as i said, there was tons of overtaking before any rain fell. when it fell, they were busier spinning off than passing each other.

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 14:23

    like mr potato head man! :D

    Phone wont let me quote.. Boo to phones.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:23

    i despise everything about them (including the silly movable wing).

    the movable wing didn't work at all. well, i do remember rubens adjusting it in australia to minimize the effect on his damaged wing, but it's not used regularly.

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:24

    That was my memory

    china?? how many passes did you see there>

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:24

    Phone wont let me quote.. Boo to phones.

    :D You can quote on the iPhone? ;)

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:24

    china?? how many passes did you see there?

    a lot too - not as many as malaysia, but many. but it did rain.

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 14:25

    china?? how many passes did you see there?

    I don't even remember the race let alone the overtakes. I couldn't even tell you who was on the podium.

    It's amazing how much rubbish I keep in my memory, theres no room left for F1.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:26

    I don't even remember the race let alone the overtakes. I couldn't even tell you who was on the podium.

    It's amazing how much rubbish I keep in my memory, theres no room left for F1.

    i worry about the opposite - i know so much about F1, i worry if i have enough space for the important stuff. :D

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:27

    a lot too - not as many as malaysia, but many. but it did rain.

    the regs have never worked. the ddd has little bearing on it.

    the loophole shouldn't have been left open (OWG fail), but even so, i don't believe the racing is significantly worse as a result. it's been rubbish all year.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 14:28

    I don't even remember the race let alone the overtakes. I couldn't even tell you who was on the podium.

    It's amazing how much rubbish I keep in my memory, theres no room left for F1.

    I remember it was very wet with big sploshy puddles and vettel won and Webber overtook Button

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:28

    the loophole shouldn't have been left open (OWG fail), but even so, i don't believe the racing is significantly worse as a result. it's been rubbish all year.

    There was more overtaking last year... I think.

    How is that possible?

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:29

    I don't even remember the race let alone the overtakes. I couldn't even tell you who was on the podium.

    hehe. significant moments in china...

    - vettel won

    ummmmm. yup that was it.

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:29

    There was more overtaking last year... I think.

    maverick did a post that proved it recently.

    How is that possible?

    i really have no idea?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:29

    Funnily enough if you search on the playground for overtake the first post that comes up is Australia 2009:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/playground/search.php?s=overtake

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 14:29

    - vettel won

    wiki tells me he was followed by Webber and Button. Once I read it I was like 'ohhh thats right' but I couldn't have told you that even if you bribed me with money. or chicken.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:31

    wiki tells me he was followed by Webber and Button. Once I read it I was like 'ohhh thats right' but I couldn't have told you that even if you bribed me with money. or chicken.

    boxed chicken?

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:31

    i really have no idea?

    Can we give the FIA a $100 million fine?

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 14:32

    boxed chicken?

    hehe

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 14:32

    boxed chicken?

    ooh. it's almost Friday....do I dare two weeks in a row? Last week was disappointing....

    Today at work someone came in from their lunch break proclaiming "McDonalds have new burgers!" and my motto in life is 'try every new product because if you don't you might miss something amazing' so I had a "Mighty Angus" for dinner

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:32

    Can we give the FIA a $100 million fine?

    bringing the racing into disrepute?

    i blame pat, rory and paddy. they were paid to solve the problem. the fia implemented their ideas.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:33

    wiki tells me he was followed by Webber and Button. Once I read it I was like 'ohhh thats right' but I couldn't have told you that even if you bribed me with money. or chicken.

    i remember webber and button having to tough it out for 2nd for a while.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:34

    i blame pat, rory and paddy. they were paid to solve the problem. the fia implemented their ideas.

    Pat has a lot of different racing series to follow so it's a bit mean to...

    Oh you don't mean Pat W ;)

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:34

    Oh you don't mean Pat W ;)

    :)

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 14:34

    Today at work someone came in from their lunch break proclaiming "McDonalds have new burgers!" and my motto in life is 'try every new product because if you don't you might miss something amazing' so I had a "Mighty Angus" for dinner

    ...must avoid temptation to go to burger king...

    Is it called Burger King in NZ?

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 14:35

    Is it called Burger King in NZ?

    Indeed. I call it Burger King here and people look at me funny and go "you mean Hungry Jacks?"

    no. no I don't. That name is dumb.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 14:36

    Indeed. I call it Burger King here and people look at me funny and go "you mean Hungry Jacks?"

    no. no I don't. That name is dumb.

    hehe... too right!

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:37

    Indeed. I call it Burger King here and people look at me funny and go "you mean Hungry Jacks?"

    no. no I don't. That name is dumb.

    The Angus is a Burger King thing here

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:37

    Oh you don't mean Pat W ;)

    Of course not! Wait, hang on, isn't Pat a Postman? :D

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:37

    hehe... too right!

    I went to Hungry Jacks to have a burger with yummy cheese but I couldn't finish it so I glad wrapped it.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:37

    Indeed. I call it Burger King here and people look at me funny and go "you mean Hungry Jacks?"

    no. no I don't. That name is dumb.

    Absolutely. BK rocks!

  • me26/08/2009 at 14:38

    Of course not! Wait, hang on, isn't Pat a Postman? :D

    f1 engineer (says he).

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 14:38

    I went to Hungry Jacks to have a burger with yummy cheese but I couldn't finish it so I glad wrapped it.

    Tasty cheese?

  • Amy26/08/2009 at 14:39

    I went to Hungry Jacks to have a burger with yummy cheese but I couldn't finish it so I glad wrapped it.

    you'd fit right in here.

  • Alex Andronov26/08/2009 at 14:41

    Tasty cheese?

    I think it's due a rebrand.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 14:45

    I think it's due a rebrand.

    I still cant believe they just call it tasty, its nuts, the leading brand doesn't have the best name either....

  • Joe in Fla26/08/2009 at 14:46

    Just a quick note, I was on Youtube (bank rolling USF1) has anyone seen the Hitler-Fota video?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 14:48

    Just a quick note, I was on Youtube (bank rolling USF1) has anyone seen the Hitler-Fota video?

    Yup. :D twas funny.

  • Joe in Fla26/08/2009 at 14:48

    Yup. :D twas funny.

    I love the line, "It's okay, Alonso already drives a tank"

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 14:58

    Alexander Wurtz.... :lol:

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 15:06

    I am off to continue the F1 Racing quest.

    See ya laters troublemakers...

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 15:21

    Just a quick note, I was on Youtube (bank rolling USF1) has anyone seen the Hitler-Fota video?

    inspired!!

    I may have fallen asleep on the sofa...whoops

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 15:22

    I may have fallen asleep on the sofa...whoops

    at 4:30 in the afternoon?

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 15:23

    at 4:30 in the afternoon?

    i wa up at 4.30am, spent 4.30 hours in the car and have had a very busy few days

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 15:23

    at 4:30 in the afternoon?

    Nothing wrong with a good ol' afternoon nap.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 15:24

    Nothing wrong with a good ol' afternoon nap.

    Darn 'tootin!!

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 15:24

    Darn 'tootin!!

    (that means yes)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 15:25

    Darn 'tootin!!

    Beans and Chilli for lunch again?

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 15:25

    Nothing wrong with a good ol' afternoon nap.

    ahhh - i usually have my siestas earlier in the day - usually from 1-3 (work permitting, of course).

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 15:27

    Internet problem is solved

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 15:27

    Internet problem is solved

    what was wrong?

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 15:28

    what was wrong?

    I will not tell, no form of torture can make me!

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 15:29

    I will not tell, no form of torture can make me!

    Did you forget to plug in your computer?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 15:29

    Afternoon all

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 15:31

    Did you forget to plug in your computer?

    There are two sockets. TWO!!!

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 15:34

    There are two sockets. TWO!!!

    wrong socket, then? :P

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 15:34

    There are two sockets. TWO!!!

    I would laugh except there is a sidepodpanel recording on this site where I had my mic in the headset socket and the headset in the mic socket. One plug and socket is green and the other is pink. So I understand the problem.

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 15:42

    Will be going soon. But before I do, does anyone know when the PF Quiz returns from its break?

  • me26/08/2009 at 15:46

    There are two sockets. TWO!!!

    ahhhhh. had been taxing me all day. was even discussed in the office.

    wonder if i should pass this info on?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 15:46

    Will be going soon. But before I do, does anyone know when the PF Quiz returns from its break?

    I haven't heard anything. If I see Mav or Jackie around tonight I will ask

  • Journeyer26/08/2009 at 15:46

    I haven't heard anything. If I see Mav or Jackie around tonight I will ask

    Thanks. Off to bed for me - good night!

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 15:47

    Night Journeyer

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 15:58

    Nothing wrong with a good ol' afternoon nap.

    Just had a 10-minuter on the train ;)

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 16:06

    Just found this on the comments of Jakes blog...

    After the embarrassing own goal with irresponsible tabloid-like handling of Massa's sensitive situation in Hungary, yet another piece of shocking tv presenting. Yes I'm talking about Mr Brundle on the grid - once more a disgrace. Arrogant, smug, disrespectful, all the national traits put together. You know, that feeling that 'we OWN the place so sod everyone else'. Congratulations & great job comments aplenty in here I see - for jumping the queue.

    So well done mate, absolutely superb. It worked out well so I'm going to give it a go tomorrow in the bus or the bank and see what happens and if I get praised too at the end. Fortunately I understand that bbc's f1 signal is received widely across the globe so you can get all the acclaim you deserve.

    However my favourite is the comment below it..

    i can't believe eddie dressed himself today

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 16:09

    i can't believe eddie dressed himself today

    And,

    Hi Jake, I thought the whole BBC team did very well this weekend and the "Did EJ swear?" sketch was brilliant real time thinking, he should have a 10 sec penalty for trying to hide his ice lolly.

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 16:25

    ahhhhh. had been taxing me all day. was even discussed in the office.

    Ah, don't get yourself worked up that way about my computer problems it is ALWAYS something silly like that.

    wonder if i should pass this info on?

    do you want to die?

  • me26/08/2009 at 16:46

    wonder if i should pass this info on?

    do you want to die?

    nuff said ;)

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 16:49

    I have F1 racing, but going outside has made me fuming angry. I am going to go and read it while i break stuff.

  • me26/08/2009 at 16:50

    I have F1 racing, but going outside has made me fuming angry. I am going to go and read it while i break stuff.

    it's scary out there.

  • me26/08/2009 at 16:51

    no idea how legit this is, but:

    "I have just had it from an insider that A1GP will be go for season five - rejoice all you fans the confirmation will be announced soon"

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 16:56

    "I have just had it from an insider that A1GP will be go for season five - rejoice all you fans the confirmation will be announced soon"

    aha :D

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 17:28

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77998

    Renault are thinking of running KERS at Monza. Looks like it is not just Williams who are thinking of dusting it off

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 17:58

    Evening all

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:00

    Evening all

    hi pat.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 18:00

    Renault are thinking of running KERS at Monza. Looks like it is not just Williams who are thinking of dusting it off

    Plug alert: http://www.f1minute.com/2009/08/26/26-aug-09-renault-considering-bringing-kers-back/

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:00

    Did we know that Grosjean works part time in a bank?

    what?

    *Romain works part-time at a bank in Geneva

    what??

    Are they sure they aren't confusing him with someone else?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:02

    come to rockall, it's bigger than you think!

    I'm pretty sure, with a bit of jiggery pokery, we could get a hotel sorted.

    Hollow it out.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 18:02

    Hollow it out.

    Genius!

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:03

    Did we know that Grosjean works part time in a bank?

    I know Flav is tight fisted butthat is ridiculous

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 18:03

    Evening! The working girl returns....

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 18:04

    Evening! The working girl returns....

    Okay wait. That came out wrong. You know what I mean :P

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:04

    Hollow it out.

    Genius!

    it wouldn't be all rock then though?

    rocksome?

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:04

    Evening! The working girl returns....

    aha, working feel good? or wish you had time off again?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:04

    Hi Alison and Pat

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:04

    Evening! The working girl returns....

    Okay wait. That came out wrong. You know what I mean :P

    :D :D

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:05

    Okay wait. That came out wrong. You know what I mean :P

    We know what you mean but we won't judge you

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:05

    Evening! The working girl returns....

    Okay wait. That came out wrong. You know what I mean :P

    Evening. Ha! :-)

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:05

    We know what you mean but we won't judge you

    (much)

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:05

    it wouldn't be all rock then though?

    Shh. You can't tell from the outside.

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 18:07

    aha, working feel good? or wish you had time off again?

    Yeah pretty good. Good to go and be productive. I'm knackered though!!

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:07

    Shh. You can't tell from the outside.

    The top needs to be flattened anyway to fet a helicopter to land on top. It is a long way from civlisation and there is no way on and off most of the year

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:08

    i bloody hope you're wrong. this years cars a vile and the OWG suck.

    I may have been slightly drunk hungover in Australia... There was a lot of suggestion near the beginning of the race that it had helped overtaking.

    I'm not sure if helped overtaking, it may have done a bit in Aus. One thing it did do was close up the cars over last year.. but that has since been negated, IMO. Needs someone to do an analysis.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:08

    The top needs to be flattened anyway to fet a helicopter to land on top. It is a long way from civlisation and there is no way on and off most of the year

    Submarine docking port.

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:09

    Submarine docking port.

    how deep are you digging?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:10

    Submarine docking port.

    how deep are you digging?

    Not saying. You can't build a secret hide hotel giving away that sort of information.

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:11

    Not saying. You can't build a secret hide hotel giving away that sort of information.

    :D

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:13

    i blame pat, rory and paddy. they were paid to solve the problem. the fia implemented their ideas.

    Pat has a lot of different racing series to follow so it's a bit mean to...

    Oh you don't mean Pat W ;)

    Hah :-) :-)

    I've too been busy trying to fix IndyCar.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:13

    Hah :-) :-)

    I've too been busy trying to fix IndyCar.

    More right turns required

    Afternoon folks

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:14

    Afternoon folks

    are you a working boy?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:14

    Hah :-) :-)

    I've too been busy trying to fix IndyCar.

    More right turns required

    Afternoon folks

    Evening...

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:15

    Indeed. I call it Burger King here and people look at me funny and go "you mean Hungry Jacks?"

    no. no I don't. That name is dumb.

    The Angus is a Burger King thing here

    Burger King is superior to McD in every department.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:16

    Oh you don't mean Pat W ;)

    Of course not! Wait, hang on, isn't Pat a Postman? :D

    I'm pretending I didn't see that.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:17

    Burger King is superior to McD in every department.

    Especially prices... the prices are alot more superior....

    and thats why i go to McD

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:18

    Especially prices... the prices are alot more superior....

    and thats why i go to McD

    you gets what you pays for ;-)

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:18

    I'm not sure if helped overtaking, it may have done a bit in Aus. One thing it did do was close up the cars over last year.. but that has since been negated, IMO. Needs someone to do an analysis.

    It needs someone who is not employed by the teams to come up wit comething radical. Everyone knows the problem is aerodynamics so keep hacking away aero devices till the loss of drag a car experiences followin another car is more important than the loss of downforce. It is as simple as that.

    The other factor is circuits. 25 corners in 3 miles is not going to allow overtaking. Spa has something like 17 corners in 5 miles and a long long run uphill to a tight corner then a long run down hill to the Bus Stop. It's no co-incidence that great overtaking moves have taken place there.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:19

    Submarine docking port.

    I like it.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 18:19

    grrr... too angry to write anything ...grrrr

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:20

    how deep are you digging?

    Lets put it this way. No one will be allowed on without a spade.

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:20

    grrr... too angry to write anything ...grrrr

    still?

    how bad can outside be?

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:20

    Lets put it this way. No one will be allowed on without a spade.

    :P

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:20

    Hi BC

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:20

    grrr... too angry to write anything ...grrrr

    Is this about F1 Racing? How hard can it be? Go to a supermarket, pick up magazine, pay, leave...

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:21

    Is this about F1 Racing? How hard can it be? Go to a supermarket, pick up magazine, pay, leave...

    i think nick needs a kindle.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:21

    Burger King is superior to McD in every department.

    Rubbish. McChicken sammiches are great and that barbecue sauce may be even better than mint sauce. #sorrylukeh

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 18:21

    still?

    I am stewing.

    It is making me angrier.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:21

    i think nick needs a kindle.

    and a sidepodhug ;)

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:22

    Is this about F1 Racing? How hard can it be? Go to a supermarket, pick up magazine, pay, leave...

    i think he got a copy, but being outside made him angry

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:22

    grrr... too angry to write anything ...grrrr

    Harness the force of your anger and have a rant

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:23

    Is this about F1 Racing? How hard can it be? Go to a supermarket, pick up magazine, pay, leave...

    or go to a newsagents/railway station/airport/motorway service station/petrol station///

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:25

    i wa up at 4.30am, spent 4.30 hours in the car and have had a very busy few days

    Sorry, but this line is just classic:

    Got home from church to discover that instead of sending my doctors letter to the university, i sent a copy of my recipe [f]or meatballs….

    Clearing sounds like an incredibly traumatic experience to go through though, so well done on getting something you wanted.

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 18:26

    i think he got a copy, but being outside made him angry

    I was briefly amused by the tale of Jake meeting Bernie.

    But soon back to being angry

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:26

    Is this about F1 Racing? How hard can it be? Go to a supermarket, pick up magazine, pay, leave...

    i think nick needs a kindle.

    because winter is coming?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:27

    Mr C / Christine:

    I have sent you an email with some thoughts on my first year on SPC

    Feel free to use or broadcast if you feel appropriate

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:27

    Rubbish. McChicken sammiches are great and that barbecue sauce may be even better than mint sauce. #sorrylukeh

    Flame-grilled all the way.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:27

    Is this about F1 Racing? How hard can it be? Go to a supermarket, pick up magazine, pay, leave...

    i think he got a copy, but being outside made him angry

    Ah. Tourists.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:27

    Sorry, but this line is just classic:

    Yeah, it was quite hilarious. I'm glad it was pointed out to me

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 18:27

    Ah. Tourists.

    Natives

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:28

    Food time I think, back in a bit.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 18:28

    no idea how legit this is, but:

    "I have just had it from an insider that A1GP will be go for season five - rejoice all you fans the confirmation will be announced soon"

    I was just thinking about A1GP today - it's very close to the start of the season and there has been no news at all!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:28

    Rubbish. McChicken sammiches are great and that barbecue sauce may be even better than mint sauce. #sorrylukeh

    BBQ sauce makes me wanna hurl, though I do like a good Zinger Tower

    As for McD's, BK wipes the flame grilled floor with 'em

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:29

    Ah. Tourists.

    Natives

    If they are anything like the natives of where I am, they are all old, slow and doddery and get in the way. They can't help it, but that doesn't make it less annoying.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 18:29

    Indeed. I call it Burger King here and people look at me funny and go "you mean Hungry Jacks?"

    no. no I don't. That name is dumb.

    The Angus is a Burger King thing here

    Burger King is superior to McD in every department.

    Except for service... well here in Odense anyway!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:31

    are you a working boy?

    Huh, I was earlier

    Home now

    [though now confused]

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:31

    I've discovered why there are so many Nascar drivers...

    They train them young

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:32

    Home now

    [though now confused]

    You missed Alison's announcement that she is now a working girl then her immediate realisation that it could be misconstrued

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:33

    They train them young

    he drives like christine.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:34

    he drives like christine.

    i'm not sure who thats insulting too....

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 18:36

    he drives like christine.

    In real life or in games?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 18:38

    They train them young

    Can I have my 6 minutes back?

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:39

    In real life or in games?

    in games!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:39

    You missed Alison's announcement that she is now a working girl then her immediate realisation that it could be misconstrued

    Ah ha

    I just call it "employed"

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 18:39

    in games!

    Just checkin' :)

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:39

    Mr C / Christine:

    I have sent you an email with some thoughts on my first year on SPC

    Feel free to use or broadcast if you feel appropriate

    In case you missed it earlier...

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:40

    in games!

    if i was that kids dad...before he got too confident and cocky...i'd set it to hard and see how he did..

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:41

    Can I have my 6 minutes back?

    I agree with this statement

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 18:41

    In case you missed it earlier...

    All received, thank you :)

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:42

    Talking of work, I woke up this morning to a text from my colleague

    "Wakey wakey"

    15mins after our official start time, 45 past the unofficial.

    Doh!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:44

    Bed to car in 11mins

    Luckily, I had showered, ironed & prepared lunch before going to bed

    A new record I think

    Soothing bath and an early night for me, I think

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 18:44

    Can I have my 6 minutes back?

    I can't believe you sat through 6 minutes of it. I stopped after about a minute once I convinced myself he was actuaaly steering

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:45

    Luckily, I had showered, ironed & prepared lunch before going to bed

    A new record I think

    how old are you?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:45

    I can't believe you sat through 6 minutes of it. I stopped after about a minute once I convinced myself he was actuaaly steering

    I fast forwarded to see if there were any massive pile ups

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 18:46

    I can't believe you sat through 6 minutes of it. I stopped after about a minute once I convinced myself he was actuaaly steering

    I fast forwarded to see if there were any massive pile ups

    Same here.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 18:47

    15mins after our official start time, 45 past the unofficial.

    Doh!

    ouch

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:47

    how old are you?

    Most mornings I have to iron my shirt before putting it on, cos I can't be bothered doing all the prep before bed

    Too old to change, young enough not to care ;)

  • me26/08/2009 at 18:47

    Too old to change, young enough not to care ;)

    hehe.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 18:53
  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 18:55

    Look who's giving away their race suit!

    I was about to say "why dosent he just burn it?" but then realised what a stupid thing that would be to do to a fireproof suit...

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:57

    Look who's giving away their race suit!

    Well, he won't be needing it anytime soon

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 18:57

    Look who's giving away their race suit!

    I was about to say "why dosent he just burn it?" but then realised what a stupid thing that would be to do to a fireproof suit...

    He may have already tried ;)

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 18:59

    I really think there should be a "who ARE you?" button for twitter follower requests

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:00

    I really think there should be a "who ARE you?" button for twitter follower requests

    sounds like what you need is facebook?

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:02

    I really think there should be a "who ARE you?" button for twitter follower requests

    I want one of those for skype

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:04

    I want one of those for skype

    really?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:05

    Made these graphs earlier for another forum and thought I would share them.

    I cannot believe how awful Badoer did - he was at least a second slower than his teammate and very inconsistent (something which I thought was the opposite of a test driver)

    Badoer vs. Select other drivers

    Badoer vs. Select other drivers - Zoomed in

    Badoer Vs. Raikkonen

    Badoer Vs. Raikkonen - Zoomed in

    Also, note how fast and Consistent Raikkonen was!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:07

    Made these graphs earlier for another forum and thought I would share them.

    Good stuff. Presumably those big spikes in the 2nd stint were because people were lapping him?

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:07

    really?

    :P

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:10

    sounds like what you need is facebook?

    I got bored of the flying sheep and then my sister and nieces joined, I knew it was time to move on :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:10

    Made these graphs earlier for another forum and thought I would share them.

    Good stuff. Presumably those big spikes in the 2nd stint were because people were lapping him?

    I'm not sure - there are a heck of a lot of spikes and 4 seconds a lap is a lot to give away just to let someone by!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:11

    I want one of those for skype

    really?

    We all know of Kathi's immense Skype caller ID finding skills. Her address book must need an external back-up solution

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:13

    Also, note how fast and Consistent Raikkonen was!

    I had the lap graph of him compared with Lewis and Rubens as my dektop background for a bit. So pretty

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:13

    I cannot believe how awful Badoer did - he was at least a second slower than his teammate and very inconsistent (something which I thought was the opposite of a test driver)

    For me it was by a very long way the worst performance by any driver in the last 20 years

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:14

    Also, note how fast and Consistent Raikkonen was!

    I had the lap graph of him compared with Lewis and Rubens as my dektop background for a bit. So pretty

    Thanks! ;)

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:15

    Thanks! ;)

    You made one?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:15

    I really think there should be a "who ARE you?" button for twitter follower requests

    I just look at their profile, read a page or two of their tweets..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:16

    Thanks! ;)

    You made one?

    Aww, I thought you meant the one I just made and put on droop.io :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:16

    I really think there should be a "who ARE you?" button for twitter follower requests

    Who-who, who-who?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:16

    I'm not sure - there are a heck of a lot of spikes and 4 seconds a lap is a lot to give away just to let someone by!

    4 seconds isn't so much for a rookie, which is effectively what he is until he knocks the rust off.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:17

    4 seconds isn't so much for a rookie, which is effectively what he is until he knocks the rust off.

    Unless he's as rusty as a Lancia half his age

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:17

    Aww, I thought you meant the one I just made and put on droop.io :(

    those are pretty too. Not soo pretty but still pretty ;)

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:18

    I cannot believe how awful Badoer did - he was at least a second slower than his teammate and very inconsistent (something which I thought was the opposite of a test driver)

    There are a lot of factors that affect lap times of slower drivers that don't affect the guys at the front such as traffic, being lapped etc. I would be interested to see the weight corrected times of the two Ferrari drivers up to Raikkonen's first stop before the race gets shuffled. It would also be interesting to see Alguesuari and Grosjean vs Badoer weight corrected until the first of them stops. That should give a clear indication of performance.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:18

    Aww, I thought you meant the one I just made and put on droop.io :(

    those are pretty too. Not soo pretty but still pretty ;)

    Can I see the graph you are talking about?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:19

    I'm not sure - there are a heck of a lot of spikes and 4 seconds a lap is a lot to give away just to let someone by!

    One is a derive through penalty and there was at least one spin.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:19

    I cannot believe how awful Badoer did - he was at least a second slower than his teammate and very inconsistent (something which I thought was the opposite of a test driver)

    There are a lot of factors that affect lap times of slower drivers that don't affect the guys at the front such as traffic, being lapped etc. I would be interested to see the weight corrected times of the two Ferrari drivers up to Raikkonen's first stop before the race gets shuffled. It would also be interesting to see Alguesuari and Grosjean vs Badoer weight corrected until the first of them stops. That should give a clear indication of performance.

    Weight corrected? How can I do that? Steven, I haven't even done driver consistency yet and there's 3 days until the next race! My wife doesn't even know what I look like anymore!!!

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 19:20

    Was this lukeh's doing?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/kovalemmingf-jpg

    If so, i want to hug him.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:20

    Also, note how fast and Consistent Raikkonen was!

    If only he was motivated he could have been on the podium in a car that is definitely not the best.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:21

    I'm not sure - there are a heck of a lot of spikes and 4 seconds a lap is a lot to give away just to let someone by!

    One is a derive through penalty and there was at least one spin.

    The Drive Through must be the one not as tall as the two pit stops. Typically a driver wouldn't lose 4 seconds on one lap just to let a guy through?

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:21

    Can I see the graph you are talking about?

    No I don't think you can. You need a autosport online subscription and if I remember correctly you don't have one?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:22

    Was this lukeh's doing?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/kovalemmingf-jpg

    If so, i want to hug him.

    You have to ask?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:22

    Made these graphs earlier for another forum and thought I would share them.

    How do you get your graphs into your blog? Is it PrintScreen / paste into something like Paint, and save as jpg? That's what I used to do... is there a more efficient way?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:22

    Weight corrected? How can I do that? Steven, I haven't even done driver consistency yet and there's 3 days until the next race! My wife doesn't even know what I look like anymore!!!

    Give her chocolate. It will be OK.

    You know starting weights, fuel consumption and what lap they pitted on. What else do you need?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:22

    Can I see the graph you are talking about?

    No I don't think you can. You need a autosport online subscription and if I remember correctly you don't have one?

    I don't - but I know which one you mean now ;)

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 19:22

    You have to ask?

    You make a good point.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:23

    Weight corrected? How can I do that? Steven, I haven't even done driver consistency yet and there's 3 days until the next race! My wife doesn't even know what I look like anymore!!!

    Give her chocolate. It will be OK.

    You know starting weights, fuel consumption and what lap they pitted on. What else do you need?

    Time. I NEED MORE TIME DAMMIT! :(

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:23

    You know starting weights, fuel consumption and what lap they pitted on. What else do you need?

    The cost in time of the weight

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:23

    The Drive Through must be the one not as tall as the two pit stops. Typically a driver wouldn't lose 4 seconds on one lap just to let a guy through?

    This is Badoer. There is no "typically" with Badoer.

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:23

    I got bored of the flying sheep and then my sister and nieces joined, I knew it was time to move on :)

    understood. i prefer twitter because it doesn't have a "who the chuff are you option".

    the way i see it, a blogger wouldn't ask that before letting me read their thoughts, why should a tweeter?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:23

    The Drive Through must be the one not as tall as the two pit stops. Typically a driver wouldn't lose 4 seconds on one lap just to let a guy through?

    Not if he does it in a sensible manner but this guy probably hasn't been on track with another car close to him in years

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:24

    Time. I NEED MORE TIME DAMMIT! :(

    You have sidepodtime

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:25

    I don't - but I know which one you mean now ;)

    I never understood why not. Those lap charts/times/gaps graphs are great and on top you get forix and it's not that expensive.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:25

    the way i see it, a blogger wouldn't ask that before letting me read their thoughts, why should a tweeter?

    Good point. As I'm not a blogger - I just care more about spam

    It really is a hatred of mine

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:26

    I don't - but I know which one you mean now ;)

    I never understood why not. Those lap charts/times/gaps graphs are great and on top you get forix and it's not that expensive.

    I just never got round to it...

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:26

    Time. I NEED MORE TIME DAMMIT! :(

    You have sidepodtime

    Gavin, you need a job with a longer train journey :)

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 19:26

    It really is a hatred of mine

    some followers its quite obvious if they are spammers/they type to be.

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:26

    I never understood why not. Those lap charts/times/gaps graphs are great and on top you get forix and it's not that expensive.

    agreed. everyone should have an autosport subscription, if only because they're frightened to death of letting the magazine rest in peace.

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:27

    I just never got round to it...

    do it now.

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:27

    It really is a hatred of mine

    understood. i gave up on email because of it.

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:27

    do it now.

    it's easy :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:29

    do it now.

    it's easy :)

    What can I get from FORIX that I can't get from the FIA Media Centre though?

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:30

    What can I get from FORIX that I can't get from the FIA Media Centre though?

    stats from 1950-2009.

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:30

    What can I get from FORIX that I can't get from the FIA Media Centre though?

    things from the race before last?

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:31

    things from the race before last?

    :D

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:31

    What can I get from FORIX that I can't get from the FIA Media Centre though?

    Loads

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:32

    Loads

    i think they designed forix, just for gavin. i can't believe he doesn't have a subscription...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:35

    Loads

    i think they designed forix, just for gavin. i can't believe he doesn't have a subscription...

    OK, I'll do it next week when I get paid then. And GP+ too ;)

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:35

    OK, I'll do it next week when I get paid then. And GP+ too ;)

    which day? we can remind you.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:36

    i think they designed forix, just for gavin. i can't believe he doesn't have a subscription...

    I know, the thing is huge. I've been using it for years.

    They are even on Twitter now posting the pole winner, race winner, fastest lap-setter and top 3 in points for all kinds of races (although it does get a bit overwhelming).

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:36

    OK, I'll do it next week when I get paid then. And GP+ too ;)

    which day? we can remind you.

    No need - I will know as we get payslips!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:37

    i think they designed forix, just for gavin. i can't believe he doesn't have a subscription...

    I know, the thing is huge. I've been using it for years.

    They are even on Twitter now posting the pole winner, race winner, fastest lap-setter and top 3 in points for all kinds of races (although it does get a bit overwhelming).

    Will it be helpful to Project TooMuchRubberGoat?

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 19:38

    agreed. everyone should have an autosport subscription, if only because they're frightened to death of letting the magazine rest in peace.

    They give all i want away for free.

    I prefer to buy the paper rag when their is something worth reading in it

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:38

    What can I get from FORIX that I can't get from the FIA Media Centre though?

    stats from 1950-2009.

    All sorts of F1 stats... every position in every session, not just the races.

    Circuit pages showing the winner of each race - and that does mean each race, not each F1 GP.

    Driver pages showing their championship position for pretty much every championship they have entered.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:39

    Will it be helpful to Project TooMuchRubberGoat?

    It was always planned to be lifted extensively from FORIX ;-)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:39

    Will it be helpful to Project TooMuchRubberGoat?

    It was always planned to be lifted extensively from FORIX ;-)

    Then I must join then!

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 19:39

    I prefer to buy the paper rag when their is something worth reading in it

    i only buy the paper one for the national and club racing news :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:40

    I prefer to buy the paper rag when their is something worth reading in it

    i only buy the paper one for the national and club racing news :)

    By the time the paper one arrives in Denmark it is out of date!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:40

    I prefer to buy the paper rag when their is something worth reading in it

    i only buy the paper one for the national and club racing news :)

    I've had a subbie to the paper one for 11 years and I hate disappointing people, I can't bring myself to call them.

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 19:40

    OK, I'll do it next week when I get paid then. And GP+ too ;)

    Good, this is the graph I was talking about.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:42

    understood. i gave up on email because of it.

    I use a yahoo addy purely for sign-ups & authentications. I get very little spam on my others

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:42

    Good, this is the graph I was talking about.

    me likes :)

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:43

    which day? we can remind you.

    Reminding people on this site doesn't work. Joe writing competition

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:43

    No need - I will know as we get payslips!

    We don't get them anymore, all online

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 19:44

    I've had a subbie to the paper one for 11 years and I hate disappointing people, I can't bring myself to call them.

    But a paper sub gives you access to it?

    http://www.autosport.com/subs/magazine.html

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:44

    No need - I will know as we get payslips!

    We don't get them anymore, all online

    We are 'old fashioned'. Computers didn't have the Internet until 2004!

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:45

    I use a yahoo addy purely for sign-ups & authentications. I get very little spam on my others

    that isn't my issue with it.

    as someone who used to have to send out a lot of official email, the domain frequently got blacklisted as a spam account (it wasn't spam, it was a just lot of email).

    that meant people who needed the info couldn't get the info because the likes of microsoft were loosing it at the server level.

    as a communication mechanism for content publishers, email is broken beyond repair.

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:45

    Reminding people on this site doesn't work. Joe writing competition

    hahah. it's on the calendar. we're too frickin' busy.

    i gotta stop commenting so much.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:46

    as a communication mechanism for content publishers, email is broken beyond repair.

    I fear the same future for twitter :(

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:46

    This is worth a mention. Nothing we haven't covered in discussions already, nice to see it mentioned somewhere else though - the recycling of press releases as original content:

    http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/08/26/a-little-look-at-f1-media-sausage-making-f1-formula1/

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:46

    But a paper sub gives you access to it?

    Yes. I know. I have it.

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:47

    I fear the same future for twitter :(

    twitter is broken by the 140 char limit. it's useless for anything beyond shameless self promotion.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:47

    By the way, if anyone hears of a Flash Mob tomorrow at Waterloo, don't worry. It'll probably be Nick, Giggles and I - Qik Streaming something inane but strangely compelling

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:48

    This is worth a mention. Nothing we haven't covered in discussions already, nice to see it mentioned somewhere else though - the recycling of press releases as original content:

    http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/08/26/a-little-look-at-f1-media-sausage-making-f1-formula1/

    F1B spend an awful lot of time quoting GMM stories.

    of all the people who should keep quiet on that subject...

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:49

    F1B spend an awful lot of time quoting GMM stories.

    "At F1B, we work hard to find the original sources for any posts so you can see them. And a few of you make sure to keep us honest!"

    hahhahahahahahahahh

    hahahaha

    ha

    h..

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:49

    F1B spend an awful lot of time quoting GMM stories.

    of all the people who should keep quiet on that subject...

    Didn't know that..

    This writer says he was recently become more active on F1B, perhaps he's trying to make a point to his fellow contributors...

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:50

    By the way, if anyone hears of a Flash Mob tomorrow at Waterloo, don't worry. It'll probably be Nick, Giggles and I - Qik Streaming something inane but strangely compelling

    Anyone else up for it by the way?

    Which reminds me, I got a PM from Flibster the other day, must see if he responded

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:52

    From Flibster:

    I've had major surgery on my knee - cartilage being hacked about with, kneecap has been re-broken, other bits of bone broken and ground away. Generally, a not very nice procedure. Hopefully all should be ok so that I can be on crutches by October.

    On the plus side - old company was so desperate to have me back they offered me a new position they created and I can still work from home. I no longer have to deal with customers! JOY!

    Oh, and opiate based pain killers are an excellent way to pass the day. ;-)

    TTFN

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:52

    hahah. it's on the calendar. we're too frickin' busy.

    You are too creative for your own good

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 19:53

    twitter is broken by the 140 char limit. it's useless for anything beyond shameless self promotion.

    It's like interviewing Beaker from the Muppets - all "me me me me"

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:54

    Didn't know that..

    This writer says he was recently become more active on F1B, perhaps he's trying to make a point to his fellow contributors...

    "I know there are many sites out there (F1-related as well as other sports and news sites) that just regurgitate others’ product (GMM, is it?) without offering any context at all. Boo to them."

    that is just odd. the writer doesn't even read the site they write for?

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 19:54

    From Flibster:

    ooooh

    I've had major surgery on my knee - cartilage being hacked about with, kneecap has been re-broken, other bits of bone broken and ground away. Generally, a not very nice procedure. Hopefully all should be ok so that I can be on crutches by October.

    oh man :(

    On the plus side - old company was so desperate to have me back they offered me a new position they created and I can still work from home. I no longer have to deal with customers! JOY!

    awesome :D

    Oh, and opiate based pain killers are an excellent way to pass the day. ;-)

    aha, :D

    TTFN

    Wish him well from me :)

  • me26/08/2009 at 19:54

    It's like interviewing Beaker from the Muppets - all "me me me me"

    but that's all it's good for?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:56

    Wish him well from me :)

    Will do

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:57

    From Flibster:

    Ouch. Do wish him well.

    No offence, but for a guy who's not that bothered about being here it seems odd that he keeps contacting us!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:57

    From Flibster:

    I've had major surgery on my knee - cartilage being hacked about with, kneecap has been re-broken, other bits of bone broken and ground away. Generally, a not very nice procedure. Hopefully all should be ok so that I can be on crutches by October.

    Not a nice way to spend your time.. hope it fixes itself soon

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 19:58

    From Flibster:

    I've had major surgery on my knee - cartilage being hacked about with, kneecap has been re-broken, other bits of bone broken and ground away. Generally, a not very nice procedure. Hopefully all should be ok so that I can be on crutches by October.

    Not a nice way to spend your time.. hope it fixes itself soon

    If he's on opiate-based painkillers he will be really enjoying himself!

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 19:58

    I've had major surgery on my knee - cartilage being hacked about with, kneecap has been re-broken, other bits of bone broken and ground away. Generally, a not very nice procedure. Hopefully all should be ok so that I can be on crutches by October.

    He has had a really tough time of it with those injuries. I hope he is back on his feet soon.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:58

    No offence, but for a guy who's not that bothered about being here it seems odd that he keeps contacting us!

    He PM'd me on the wiki about a Kevin Smith event we had previously discussed

    I asked him how things were

    I think he's fallen out of love with F1, not SPC

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:58

    It's like interviewing Beaker from the Muppets - all "me me me me"

    but that's all it's good for?

    It is micro-blogging. Talking about your opinion on things. It is supposed to be me-me-me.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 19:59
  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 19:59

    I think he's fallen out of love with F1, not SPC

    To be fair I'd (we'd?) got that impression some time before he went..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 20:00

    I think he's fallen out of love with F1, not SPC

    That's not the impression I got.

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:03

    I think he's fallen out of love with F1, not SPC

    he annoyed me over the nurburgring thing...

    when he said he was going, we wished him well and took an interest. yet upon his return, we quizzed him about his adventures and the best we got was, it was:

    "slippery"

    i suspect all of us here would love to one day visit the ring, and any insight would've been appreciated. pictures, description anything. but he couldn't be bothered.

    why should i take an interest in anything else his does?

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 20:04

    Wish him well from me :)

    from me too

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:04

    "I know there are many sites out there (F1-related as well as other sports and news sites) that just regurgitate others’ product (GMM, is it?) without offering any context at all. Boo to them."

    that is just odd. the writer doesn't even read the site they write for?

    Perhaps they used to. Perhaps they still do. I've just caught up on the last 5 days of their content in Google Reader and every 'news' item cited a credible source such as BBC, Autosport, or a team release. Either they've learned or I've caught a 'good' phase. I will keep an eye on them, thanks for the heads-up.

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:05

    Perhaps they used to. Perhaps they still do. I've just caught up on the last 5 days of their content in Google Reader and every 'news' item cited a credible source such as BBC, Autosport, or a team release. Either they've learned or I've caught a 'good' phase. I will keep an eye on them, thanks for the heads-up.

    just commented asking the same. they used to be cool... back in 2007, then went very much downhill.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:05

    Perhaps they used to. Perhaps they still do. I've just caught up on the last 5 days of their content in Google Reader and every 'news' item cited a credible source such as BBC, Autosport, or a team release. Either they've learned or I've caught a 'good' phase. I will keep an eye on them, thanks for the heads-up.

    ah hang on, scratch that...

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:06

    ah hang on, scratch that...

    I just checked their SpeedTV.com source on a story and that's a GMM, so...

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 20:06

    I am not good at Caption Competitions, but this must be a great target: http://blogf1.co.uk/2009/08/26/caption-contest-99/

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:08

    I just checked their SpeedTV.com source on a story and that's a GMM, so...

    quite.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:11

    just commented asking the same. the used to be cool, back in 2007 then went very much downhill.

    Shame. Has potential. I'd already downloaded some of their podcasts, hadn't got around to listening to 'em yet and was looking forward to their perspective. Not so much now.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:12

    iPhone photo takers (and possibly iPod Touch soon too)

    Beware of taking more than 10,000 pics on your device

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:12

    wow, 9pm happened quickly...

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 20:13

    I am not good at Caption Competitions, but this must be a great target: http://blogf1.co.uk/2009/08/26/caption-contest-99/

    Hehe, he's trying to crash into Bernie.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 20:13

    wow, 9pm happened quickly...

    It's only 9pm!?! I've been up since 4.30am.

    This is what Alex must be like

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:14

    wow, 9pm happened quickly...

    It's only 9pm!?! I've been up since 4.30am.

    This is what Alex must be like

    You'll sleep well tonight.

    I'd planned to write lots of blogs tonight.. oops. Will get on that now.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:14

    I am not good at Caption Competitions, but this must be a great target: http://blogf1.co.uk/2009/08/26/caption-contest-99/

    Just keep faking it till Monza, I'm gonna make a mint when you win there. Kimi's already on board, I've got him in with Subaru for next year

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 20:15

    You'll sleep well tonight.

    I'd planned to write lots of blogs tonight.. oops. Will get on that now.

    ooh i willl so sleep well, i am going to sleep very soon

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 20:15

    Just keep faking it till Monza, I'm gonna make a mint when you win there. Kimi's already on board, I've got him in with Subaru for next year

    Make sure you post to Ollie's too. :)

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:15

    Make sure you post to Ollie's too. :)

    Did that first, fairs fair ;)

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:16

    Shame. Has potential. I'd already downloaded some of their podcasts, hadn't got around to listening to 'em yet and was looking forward to their perspective. Not so much now.

    i listened to their first one. they started a couple of months after us, but the show crossed my mental "1 hour barrier", so i never went back.

    i'm sure they're fine really, but they are in no position to criticse others standards of journalism. not by a long shot.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 20:16

    Did that first, fairs fair ;)

    Perfect.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:17

    Mr C: Did you get to check out the sponsorship message techniques?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:18

    I just checked their SpeedTV.com source on a story and that's a GMM, so...

    quite.

    I had no idea Speed were such bad offenders.. I mean I knew they used 'em, not to that extent... just got linked to a summary story of 9 pages in length all from "GMM Newswire".. instantly rendering a ton of US-based blogs a lot less credible.

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:18

    Mr C: Did you get to check out the sponsorship message techniques?

    huh?

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:19

    I had no idea Speed were such bad offenders.. I mean I knew they used 'em, not to that extent... just got linked to a summary story of 9 pages in length all from "GMM Newswire".. instantly rendering a ton of US-based blogs a lot less credible.

    on the "websites you can trust" blog post, they were on the trusted list until someone in the comments pointed out that 90% of what they write is rubbish.

    the whole tv station thing sucks you in :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 20:19

    I just checked their SpeedTV.com source on a story and that's a GMM, so...

    quite.

    I had no idea Speed were such bad offenders.. I mean I knew they used 'em, not to that extent... just got linked to a summary story of 9 pages in length all from "GMM Newswire".. instantly rendering a ton of US-based blogs a lot less credible.

    Autoblog keep using GMM via F1 Live stories...

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:20

    huh?

    Memory of a Ferranti, this man ;)

    Podcast sponsorship. This episode has been brought to you by...

    Mac OS Ken, Simply Syndicated's Make It So, etc

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 20:20

    I had no idea Speed were such bad offenders.. I mean I knew they used 'em, not to that extent... just got linked to a summary story of 9 pages in length all from "GMM Newswire".. instantly rendering a ton of US-based blogs a lot less credible.

    on the "websites you can trust" blog post, they were on the trusted list until someone in the comments pointed out that 90% of what they write is rubbish.

    the whole tv station thing sucks you in :)

    I was told SPEED is just NASCARvision anyways...

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:20

    Autoblog keep using GMM via F1 Live stories...

    One of the F1 apps uses them but they are decent enough to let you deselect them from a bunch of others

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:21

    Memory of a Ferranti, this man ;)

    hehe.

    Mac OS Ken, Simply Syndicated's Make It So, etc

    ahh yes. i think it'll tie in with the new homepage... christine?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:21

    I was told SPEED is just NASCARvision anyways...

    Chalk Talk is always worth it though, Steve Matchett [or something]

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 20:21

    ahh yes. i think it'll tie in with the new homepage... christine?

    Hello.

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:22

    Hello.

    hi.

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 20:23

    hi.

    I have still not yet worked out how to value a single episode of the podcast.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:23

    i listened to their first one. they started a couple of months after us, but the show crossed my mental "1 hour barrier", so i never went back. i'm sure they're fine really, but they are no position to criticse others standards of journalism. not by a long shot.

    I think they'll be okay 'in person'. Will listen to a few.. if it is all "Speed.com said this.." I won't go back to them. The writer of that particular article says he's a former journo so I'm hoping that'll have a positive influence now he has a bigger role.

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:23

    I think they'll be okay 'in person'. Will listen to a few.. if it is all "Speed.com said this.." I won't go back to them. The writer of that particular article says he's a former journo so I'm hoping that'll have a positive influence now he has a bigger role.

    goodo. do let us know.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 20:23

    I was told SPEED is just NASCARvision anyways...

    Chalk Talk is always worth it though, Steve Matchett [or something]

    Ah yeah forgot about that!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:24
  • me26/08/2009 at 20:24

    Ah yeah forgot about that!

    dans blog has all the best speed videos nowadays. unmissable.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:24

    I have still not yet worked out how to value a single episode of the podcast.

    SPC = Priceless :D

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:24

    dans blog has all the best speed videos nowadays. unmissable.

    Will check out, thanks

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 20:25

    I had no idea Speed were such bad offenders.. I mean I knew they used 'em, not to that extent... just got linked to a summary story of 9 pages in length all from "GMM Newswire".. instantly rendering a ton of US-based blogs a lot less credible.

    I dont know i dont think people read blogs for news, more for opinion and debate?

    I havent linked to GMM yet on my blog, but i was very tempted to the other day.

  • me26/08/2009 at 20:25

    on that note... i'm going to close doohickey and do something productive tonight. shall catch you all in the morning.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 20:25

    I have still not yet worked out how to value a single episode of the podcast.

    time? certain content?

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 20:25

    on that note... i'm going to close doohickey and do something productive tonight. shall catch you all in the morning.

    wooow, night ;)

  • Nick26/08/2009 at 20:26

    on that note... i'm going to close doohickey and do something productive tonight. shall catch you all in the morning.

    Night

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:26

    on that note... i'm going to close doohickey and do something productive tonight. shall catch you all in the morning.

    Don't forget to tune in tomorrow to Qik Streaming from SidepodPub

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 20:26

    on that note... i'm going to close doohickey and do something productive tonight. shall catch you all in the morning.

    You mean to say this isn't productive?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:26

    on the "websites you can trust" blog post, they were on the trusted list until someone in the comments pointed out that 90% of what they write is rubbish.

    I keep meaning to re-read that list... Their ALMS news articles were pretty good and they have the odd good opinion column, I stopped reading those because I ran out of time. Presumably GMM are F1-only, and Speed has good links with ALMS anyway, so it was possibly a mistake to assume competence in one area meant competence in another....

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:28

    goodo. do let us know.

    will do. erm, in 2011?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:28

    European GP Chalk Talk

    13mins

    Pit stop crews & 'the red glove'

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:29

    on that note... i'm going to close doohickey and do something productive tonight. shall catch you all in the morning.

    Night.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 20:30

    on that note... i'm going to close doohickey and do something productive tonight. shall catch you all in the morning.

    See ya!

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 20:39

    I've had a very happy day starting in my new volunteer post as a receptionist at BTCV.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 20:40

    I've had a very happy day starting in my new volunteer post as a receptionist at BTCV.

    yeeyyy

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/08/2009 at 20:47

    Night guys!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:48

    I've had a very happy day starting in my new volunteer post as a receptionist at BTCV.

    well done :-)

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 20:48

    Night guys!

    Night Gavin

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:48

    Night Gavin.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:48

    Lukeh needs laptop help via twitter...

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:50

    Lukeh needs laptop help via twitter...

    "Everytime my laptop boots up it says please remove disk or disk error. Not good... Help ... :/"

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 20:50

    Lukeh needs laptop help via twitter...

    I saw, but it's Windows. :(

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 20:51

    Lukeh needs laptop help via twitter...

    I saw, but it's Windows. :(

    I sort of know a bit about Windows, only a bit, unfortunately I know nothing of laptops. Anyone?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:54

    See ya Gavin

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 20:55

    "Everytime my laptop boots up it says please remove disk or disk error. Not good... Help ... :/"

    That looks fairly serious, will need a reinstall or recovery disc. :(

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:55

    I saw, but it's Windows. :(

    I sort of know a bit about Windows, only a bit, unfortunately I know nothing of laptops. Anyone?

    My only response would be inappropriate and insensitive

    I'll wait till it's fixed first ;)

    [Good luck with the lappy Lukeh]

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 20:56

    My only response would be inappropriate and insensitive

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 20:57

    My only response would be inappropriate and insensitive

    :D

    He knows

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 20:58

    I think the Fisi to Ferrari rumour might be Joe fishing for a way to get Liuzzi back into F1, but don’t tell him i said that! {Comment #1}

    It would do that, but it would also tie up several other loose ends in F1. It seems the sensible way of Ferrari and Force India sorting out their respective predicaments.

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 21:02

    Occasionally it may depend on the circumstances. Because you declinate(?) no in Finnish. en, et, ei, emme, ette, eivät but most of the time it’s ei {Comment #76}

    Ah - the "16 cases to the Finnish noun" thing. At least it's not 21 like in the olden days...

  • Kathi26/08/2009 at 21:04

    I sort of know a bit about Windows, only a bit, unfortunately I know nothing of laptops. Anyone?

    I'd just suggest that he tries running a Linux distro as live CD to get his data of the computer (if he can't anymore through windows). Also my baby laptop is (still) dualboot and a week ago windows refused to load (just showed a black screen) after mounting C: through Linux everything was fine again -> Linux has healing powers

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 21:11

    I've had a very happy day starting in my new volunteer post as a receptionist at BTCV.

    Glad you had fun

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 21:16

    Ross will be happy. Not only has his team secured funding, but I have it on a good source that he is going to be a grandfather. {Comment #78}

    Congratulations!

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 21:16

    The only thing I can think of and I have no idea why it should work is to try to boot it up in safe mode. When he switches it on press F8 about once a second and under normal conditions it should open in safe mode. Then he can at least try and find the problem. It probably won't work but if he has no better ideas itis worth trying

  • Neil Denham26/08/2009 at 21:16

    Just watching the football fan idiots on the news, thank goodness most motorsport fans are peaceful!

    Hows everyone in sidepodland?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:18

    Hows everyone in sidepodland?

    Not bad Neil, and you?

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 21:18

    Glad you had fun {Comment #668}

    Thank you. I'm glad Mum did my hair though - the reception is positioned so that I have my back to a large window. The window faces a main road. The main road was, for large parts of the day, full of standing traffic due to road works...

  • Neil Denham26/08/2009 at 21:19

    Yes, great thanks, late evening at work, now destroying a bottle of red!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:22

    Yes, great thanks, late evening at work, now destroying a bottle of red!

    Good stuff, will be doing similar tomorrow

    Have been wise enough to book the day after the SidepodPub off ;)

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:23

    New Arctic Monkeys album sounds good so far

    Less frenetic than their previous offerings

  • Neil Denham26/08/2009 at 21:23

    My partner is look to move to London, if we do move I will join you!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:25

    My partner is look to move to London, if we do move I will join you!

    You'd be very welcome, Alex and I are in SE but we frequent the centre frequently enough ;)

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 21:27

    RG: I stayed in Valencia for a day to enjoy the city and get some rest before I went home to Geneva. Then on Tuesday I went back to work at the bank* {Comment #140}

    I like that a lot. Especially the attitude indicated by keeping a part-time job alongside the heady heights of F1. Wonder how many of his clients recognised him from the TV?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 21:27

    The only thing I can think of and I have no idea why it should work is to try to boot it up in safe mode. When he switches it on press F8 about once a second and under normal conditions it should open in safe mode. Then he can at least try and find the problem. It probably won't work but if he has no better ideas itis worth trying

    Good idea. I suggested holding DEL on startup to check the drive in the Bios. Haven't heard back.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 21:28

    Hows everyone in sidepodland?

    Hi Neil. I'm good, ta.

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 21:28

    Yes, great thanks, late evening at work, now destroying a bottle of red!

    Sounds like a plan. Beer here.

  • Neil Denham26/08/2009 at 21:28

    Thanks, I hope she gets a job soon, the other option at the moment is Birmingham, which I am not so keen on!

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:29

    Thanks, I hope she gets a job soon, the other option at the moment is Birmingham, which I am not so keen on!

    You can always meet up with Jackie

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:30

    Thanks, I hope she gets a job soon, the other option at the moment is Birmingham, which I am not so keen on!

    Where are you these days then, are you on the SidepodMap?

  • Neil Denham26/08/2009 at 21:30

    Yeah, anywhere is going to have more poddies than Exeter!!!

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 21:32

    Good idea. I suggested holding DEL on startup to check the drive in the Bios. Haven't heard back.

    That is a far more logical idea

  • Christine26/08/2009 at 21:32

    There you go, see, he leaves the comments and is instantly more productive.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sidepodcast/3860408408/

    Have only been waiting for photos for two months.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:32

    Yeah, anywhere is going to have more poddies than Exeter!!!

    Pat's not far

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 21:33

    Yeah, anywhere is going to have more poddies than Exeter!!!

    Pat's not far

    Exeter isn't that far away, only an hour from here on the Western edge of Dorset.

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 21:33

    There you go, see, he leaves the comments and is instantly more productive.

    Lies!!

  • Neil Denham26/08/2009 at 21:34

    where are you pat?

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 21:35

    where are you pat?

    Bridport

  • Neil Denham26/08/2009 at 21:36

    Ok, we will have to have a westcountry meet up at some point then!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 21:38

    Ok, we will have to have a westcountry meet up at some point then!

    Sure thing :-)

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:39

    There you go, see, he leaves the comments and is instantly more productive.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sidepodcast/3860408408/

    Have only been waiting for photos for two months.

    Does Max Factor come in a spray can?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:41

    Forgot to add Arctic Monkeys' version of "Love Machine" to Lukeh's covers list

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 21:44

    Does Max Factor come in a spray can?

    I don't know but the Ferrari mechanic in the background has a face that is red enough to match is overalls.

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 21:45

    I havent read the UK version in years… Which may be due to the fact noone stocks it. {Comment #251}

    In my town, the main WH Smith branch plus the local independent newsagent sell F1 Racing. Some months even the local train station stocks a copy! It's Autosport that's as rare as hen's teeth (I seem to have to go to Sheffield for it every time there's an interesting issue, though the duller ones occasionally make it into the independent newsagent).

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 21:48

    Does Max Factor come in a spray can?

    Over here, we call that 'Cleary Brothers' after the local concrete supplier. As in 'puts it on with a trowel'. So so mean :)

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 21:50

    The fact i couldn’t find the guy who posted about sidepodcast suggests it must have some pretty big defficiencies {Comment #285}

    If you put "sidepodcast excelente" (without quotation marks) into the Twitter search, the one result is below:

    Luisjoset Excelente podcast (ENG)sobre #F1 sidepodcast y F1minute, tambien fotos excelentes http://tinyurl.com/bro4ao

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:50

    I don't know but the Ferrari mechanic in the background has a face that is red enough to match is overalls.

    What's he seen?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:51

    Jeremy: Is the man date still happening?

    [For want of a better term ;)]

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 21:51

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMMpdJVu_w&NR=1

    ehehehe, de ja vu

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 21:51

    What's he seen?

    Badoer's lap times

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 21:53

    Jeremy: Is the man date still happening?

    [For want of a better term ;)]

    I didn't get a positive response when I brought it up last week. I have to say I'm rather surprised - I thought it would be all go. My apologies for getting your hopes up :P

    I'll keep plugging it though

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 21:55

    Badoer's lap times

    From the karting event where he beat Michael Who?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:56

    I didn't get a positive response when I brought it up last week. I have to say I'm rather surprised - I thought it would be all go. My apologies for getting your hopes up :P

    Don't worry, he probably thinks you're trying to hook him up ;)

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:57

    Badoer's lap times

    Or his wage bill for Valencia & Spa (eeek!)

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 21:59

    Freebie glasses, media luvvie :)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sidepodcast/3859679821/

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 21:59

    Don't worry, he probably thinks you're trying to hook him up ;)

    I said it front of my sister (his wife) and avoided any confrontational terminology. Maybe he hasn't been to London enough yet and feels he still has plenty of things to see by himself.

    I am determined to live vicariously through him though.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:01

    I am determined to live vicariously through him though.

    He probably doesn't want to be filmed by Giggles drinking shots whilst we rope more poddies into joining us from the interwebz

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:02

    Freebie glasses, media luvvie :)

    not sure we've actually looked at ay of these pics, some have come out rather well.

    (i'm not here)

    ...and stop being mean about lee!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:02

    For if/when Mr C finishes being productive later, he got a response to his comment on F1B.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:02

    ...and stop being mean about lee!

    :D

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 22:03

    For if/when Mr C finishes being productive later, he got a response to his comment on F1B.

    link?

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:03

    For if/when Mr C finishes being productive later, he got a response to his comment on F1B.

    or lord, it's an essay. will read tomorrow.

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:03

    I remember several sidepodcasters (including Mr C praising the OWG in Australia) {Comment #321}

    That was when it looked like the OWG's work had paid off. To be fair, there have been more overtaking moves this year than last. The trouble is that many of them have been missed and those that have been caught on camera haven't been numerous enough to make people think any improvement has happened.

    It also doesn't help that the field has compressed by half-a-second over the winter. Overtaking is predicated on difference of speed between cars and the field, despite the major rule changes last year, is converging on two similarly-speedy solutions to the challenge of F1. Unless the teams involved are on opposite philosophies, the gap needed to overtake is now frequently half the total standard grid spread...

  • Jeremy26/08/2009 at 22:04

    I must go get car rego sorted before work. Later dudes!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:04

    For if/when Mr C finishes being productive later, he got a response to his comment on F1B.

    link?

    http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/08/26/a-little-look-at-f1-media-sausage-making-f1-formula1/

    Interesting. I disagree with their stance.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:04

    See ya Jeremy

    [That's his road tax folks]

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:05

    I must go get car rego sorted before work. Later dudes!

    see ya

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:07

    Interesting. I disagree with their stance.

    rg's away, but i recall he has issues with that site. ask him about it when he gets back, but i think they were mean to him.

    anyhow, pictures...

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:07

    http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/08/26/a-little-look-at-f1-media-sausage-making-f1-formula1/

    Interesting. I disagree with their stance.

    They seem to have spent some time here though

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 22:07

    http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/08/26/a-little-look-at-f1-media-sausage-making-f1-formula1/

    Interesting. I disagree with their stance.

    that is interesting, i think he was taking Mr C's comment a bit personally towards the writer of the post, when its the site in general to be fair that has the problem

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:08

    They seem to have spent some time here though

    todd and grace used to comment a lot and i commented there. like i said (earlier) it went downhill with the gmm stuff.

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:09

    i am amazed at how bad i am at multitasking... close.the.tab...

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:10

    rg's away, but i recall he has issues with that site. ask him about it when he gets back, but i think they were mean to him.

    righto

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:10

    no idea how legit this is, but:

    “I have just had it from an insider that A1GP will be go for season five – rejoice all you fans the confirmation will be announced soon” {Comment #408

    This is good news, better than I dare hope, but I do that one somewhat minor worry...

    ...what effect will this have on Liuzzi (who might not be able to reprise his role in the Italy team due to the possibility of a F1 racing summons?)

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:11

    For if/when Mr C finishes being productive later, he got a response to his comment on F1B.

    link?

    http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/08/26/a-little-look-at-f1-media-sausage-making-f1-formula1/

    Interesting. I disagree with their stance.

    I love the Paris Match style Ari poster near the bottom of that page. I wonder if there is a site anywhere supporting Todt

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:11

    todd and grace used to comment a lot and i commented there. like i said (earlier) it went downhill with the gmm stuff.

    Ahh ok then

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 22:12

    i am amazed at how bad i am at multitasking... close.the.tab...

    Cmd-tab ?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:13

    ...what effect will this have on Liuzzi (who might not be able to reprise his role in the Italy team due to the possibility of a F1 racing summons?)

    There's an amusing #FakeF1 tweet thing going on about Liuzzi's alleged impregnation abilities

    @fakef1_trainer & @fakeChrisHorner are the instigators

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:13

    Is this about F1 Racing? How hard can it be? Go to a supermarket, pick up magazine, pay, leave… {Comment #450}

    None of my local supermarkets have one. Unlike Nick, my local area has newsagents that stock it instead...

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:14

    ...what effect will this have on Liuzzi (who might not be able to reprise his role in the Italy team due to the possibility of a F1 racing summons?)

    I think he was using A1GP to stay race-fit, ready for F1.

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:15

    I think he was using A1GP to stay race-fit, ready for F1.

    Why didn't Badoer think of that?

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:16

    Why didn't Badoer think of that?

    Oh, you said stay race-fit

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 22:17

    Oh, you said stay race-fit

    What i don't get...is how you stay race fit when you don't race.

    He's clearly not having any problems with his neck of fitness...? How!?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:18

    Why didn't Badoer think of that?

    If you ran the Italian team would you let him near the car

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:18

    If you ran the Italian team would you let him near the car

    Not even if I ran the Jamaican team :)

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 22:19

    If you ran the Italian team would you let him near the car

    Ferrari engine, Ferrari test driver....on paper...yes i would....now ive seen him...not so much

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:19

    Typically a driver wouldn’t lose 4 seconds on one lap just to let a guy through? {Comment #524}

    Typically a driver doesn't coast to a halt in the pits to do it either...

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 22:23

    *waves*

    ugh.. what a disastrous day. Have jumped on mum's old laptop. Rubbish rubbish day followed by a rubbish rubbish evening.

    Technology is utterly hopeless at times!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:23

    For if/when Mr C finishes being productive later, he got a response to his comment on F1B.

    or lord, it's an essay. will read tomorrow.

    I couldn't help it, I replied. Sorry if I stole your thunder. I am assuming the guys there came and checked out this thread after seeing your comment anyway, so they'll have seen my queries.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:28

    Common sense is coming to the world, one country at a time... 1st up Samoa

    Driving on the left avoids tsunamis? Why doesn't everyone instantly switch then. Although I suppose in the middle of Canada tsunamis will be pretty unfrequent

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:29

    *waves*

    ugh.. what a disastrous day. Have jumped on mum's old laptop. Rubbish rubbish day followed by a rubbish rubbish evening.

    Technology is utterly hopeless at times!

    Hope you get it sorted. Kathi mentioned the same solution as Guille, I forgot to pass it on.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:29

    Typically a driver doesn't coast to a halt in the pits to do it either...

    :D :D :D

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:30

    Hi Lukeh

    Sometimes technology is nothing but trouble

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:31

    everyone should have an autosport subscription, if only because they’re frightened to death of letting the magazine rest in peace. {Comment #542}

    The online subscription is way too expensive for me to justify having it though - it works out at more money than a subscription of F1 Racing, I could only afford one or the other and with the latter I can

    a) rely on it working (Autosport's site doesn't even load on my computer every time, and F1 Racing doesn't need an internet connection)

    b) have a permanent record. With online stuff, I frequently struggle to find stuff more than a couple of months old without a lot of hassle. With a print magazine, it's much easier

    c) let my parents share it - Dad doesn't stray beyond Formula 1's official website and the occasional blog and Mum doesn't use the internet for any of her hobbies.

    It also has the advantage that I don't have to mess around with automatic renewal cancellations (I only take the print version of Autosport a handful of times a year) or worry if my parents see the debit on the bank statement.

    However good the Autosport online service is, it will be problematic if everyone ditches print in favour of online...

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:33

    The online subscription is way too expensive for me to justify having it though - it works out at more money than a subscription of F1 Racing, I could only afford one or the other and with the latter I can

    eh? f1 racing is more expensive, isn't it??

  • guille230626/08/2009 at 22:34

    hi sidepodpeople

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:35

    I couldn't help it, I replied. Sorry if I stole your thunder. I am assuming the guys there came and checked out this thread after seeing your comment anyway, so they'll have seen my queries.

    ace. good answer.

    i realised after writing my comment i couldn't care less either way anyhow.

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 22:35

    eh? f1 racing is more expensive, isn't it??

    depends where you get your subscription from...

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:35

    twitter is broken by the 140 char limit. it’s useless for anything beyond shameless self promotion. {Comment #576}

    How so? It's a question of adapting communication to the size limits. In fact, site promotion is the hardest thing for me to do with my Twitter stream because my blog's page addresses end up so long (and yes, I am planning on getting round to buying a domain name soon).

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 22:36

    How so? It's a question of adapting communication to the size limits. In fact, site promotion is the hardest thing for me to do with my Twitter stream because my blog's page addresses end up so long (and yes, I am planning on getting round to buying a domain name soon).

    tiny url?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:37

    ahhh, bortolotti. but JA seems to completely ignore him here. from what i understand, that was just a one-off test with no long-term guarantees?

    He set a lap record at Fiorano in his first day in an F1 car as is traditional for Ferrari drivers. He is currently struggling in F2 which is a spec formula where the cars are run centrally and tested to make sure they are all equal.

    Makes you wonder how bad Kimi and Felipe must be

  • Andy Taylor26/08/2009 at 22:37

    tiny url?

    Tweetie will automagically shrink URLs down using bit.ly

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:38

    eh? f1 racing is more expensive, isn’t it?? {Comment #750}

    Mine costs £8 a quarter (and only went up to that recently - before it was £7.15 a quarter). This is because I originally got it when my F1 Magazine subscription was transferred.

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:38

    TED! (sorta).

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:39

    Mine costs £8 a quarter (and only went up to that recently - before it was £7.15 a quarter). This is because I originally got it when my F1 Magazine subscription was transferred.

    well, that's hardly fair is it. but point taken :)

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 22:40

    TED! (sorta).

    More like leTEDe

    Silly lee, she shouldn't get in the way of greatness like that :P

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:41

    From Flibster:

    I’ve had major surgery on my knee – cartilage being hacked about with, kneecap has been re-broken, other bits of bone broken and ground away. Generally, a not very nice procedure. Hopefully all should be ok so that I can be on crutches by October.

    On the plus side – old company was so desperate to have me back they offered me a new position they created and I can still work from home. I no longer have to deal with customers! JOY! {Comment #582}

    OUCH! That sounds painful. Good to hear the old company is being reasonable, and I hope Flibster gets well soon :)

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:43

    Hi Guille

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:43

    Can you park this well? :D {Comment #595}

    Probably not, having never tried...

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 22:46

    hi sidepodpeople

    hi

  • guille230626/08/2009 at 22:48

    hi steven. there is a launch attempt tonight or it has been moved directly to tomorrow?

  • guille230626/08/2009 at 22:50

    The third attempt to launch the shuttle will be on Friday morning at 12:22am Eastern / 5:22am UK. I think NASA has finished using ones in its times and has switched to twos.

    I should read first and ask later... ;-)

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:50

    yeeyyy {Comment #651}

    Thank you, Jon and Pat W :)

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:52

    hi steven. there is a launch attempt tonight or it has been moved directly to tomorrow?

    No launch tonight. The next attempt is Friday at 12:22am Eastern / 5:ssam UK. Weather prediction is 70% good which is high for KSC.

    Most up to date info is at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 22:52

    I should read first and ask later... ;-)

    The good thing about asking is others will see the most up to date info.

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 22:53

    “Everytime my laptop boots up it says please remove disk or disk error. Not good… Help … :/” {Comment #657}

    Silly question first - Lukeh, have you checked that your floppy drive is empty?

    If that doesn't work, I don't know what to suggest. I have a Linux disk specifically for this scenario (which I've never had to use). Otherwise, see if you can get it into DOS prompt.

  • guille230626/08/2009 at 22:54

    Most up to date info is at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

    thanks.

    movie time! see you later

  • Bassano Clapper26/08/2009 at 22:54

    Right, I'm off to bed and will attempt not to confuse the snooze & off functions in the morning ;)

    Night all

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 22:56

    Night all

    Night! I'm off too, it's been a long few days

  • me26/08/2009 at 22:58

    wassup with your machine lukeh?

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 22:58

    Silly question first - Lukeh, have you checked that your floppy drive is empty?

    I don't ave one on my laptop. Guille and Kathi both suggested using ubuntu to get onto the hard drive which I'm gonna try in a sec once downloaded. So fingers crossed!!

  • Pat W26/08/2009 at 23:00

    night leavers..

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 23:00

    wassup with your machine lukeh?

    It's all gone piquet. Just... gone. On my old laptop/mums laptop at the mo.

    check out the twitpic I posted. not gooood.

    http://twitpic.com/fdgbq

    i'm sure it's the hard drive.

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:00

    i'm sure it's the hard drive.

    the master boot record may be screwed. give me a sec, i'll have a think

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:01

    in the meantime actual TED

  • Jon Waldock26/08/2009 at 23:02

    in the meantime actual TED

    TED('s)CONFUS(n)E(ws)D

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 23:02

    in the meantime actual TED

    Woah! It does look like you're pressing the camera up against his face or somthing there! Bizarre expression is bizarre

    Not that I'd think you'd do that to our ted... :P

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:03

    Woah! It does look like you're pressing the camera up against his face or somthing there! Bizarre expression is bizarre

    invisible paddock wall?

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:04

    lukeh, re: your issue. in your bios, can you just check that the boot sequence order hasn't been altered?

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 23:04

    lukeh, re: your issue. in your bios, can you just check that the boot sequence order hasn't been altered?

    I've had a look and it's the same as it's always been

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:05

    I've had a look and it's the same as it's always been

    rats

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:06

    I've had a look and it's the same as it's always been

    rats

    in that case, run ubuntu from a usb drive and see what you've got. sounds bad though :(

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 23:07

    in that case, run ubuntu from a usb drive and see what you've got. sounds bad though :(

    yeah it ain't looking good. :(

    I've had it for 8 months so it's still under warranty which is good. Just a pain in the backside really.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:08

    Night to all who are leaving now

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 23:09

    oooh mr c. I asked a friend of mine who's an awesome songwriter if you guys could use some of his music and he's got no issues at all. Only thing is, he's happy for it to be used on your shows or radio or whatever but doesn't want to leave it up anywhere for free downloading on its own if that makes sense. How do I send it to you?

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:12

    oooh mr c. I asked a friend of mine who's an awesome songwriter if you guys could use some of his music and he's got no issues at all. Only thing is, he's happy for it to be used on your shows or radio or whatever but doesn't want to leave it up anywhere for free downloading on its own if that makes sense. How do I send it to you?

    alison, that's brilliant!

    best thing to do is to create a secret drop (or several) and upload them, then send the drop name to christine. drops are free to create at http://drop.io/ and christine's email is [email protected]

    :)

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 23:13

    I think he was using A1GP to stay race-fit, ready for F1. {Comment #735}

    You have a good point there.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:13

    oooh mr c. I asked a friend of mine who's an awesome songwriter if you guys could use some of his music and he's got no issues at all. Only thing is, he's happy for it to be used on your shows or radio or whatever but doesn't want to leave it up anywhere for free downloading on its own if that makes sense. How do I send it to you?

    If I am reading that correctly he is happy for podcasts containing it to be left online but not the songs themselves. If he has recordings they can be uploaded to http://drop.io/sidepodradio Only Christine, Nr C and I can access files there

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:14

    best thing to do is to create a secret drop (or several) and upload them, then send the drop name to christine. drops are free to create at http://drop.io/ and christine's email is [email protected]

    We already have one http://drop.io/sidepodradio

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:15

    Only Christine, Nr C and I can access files there

    wow... how's that work then?

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 23:16

    wow... how's that work then?

    I'm not sure it does.... I clicked on it and I can see audio files in there. 4 of them?

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 23:16

    Only Christine, Nr C and I can access files there

    i hope mr c knows about this imposter!

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 23:17

    tiny url? {Commment #755}

    If a domain name doesn't fix the problem, that would be worth considering.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:17

    wow... how's that work then?

    I set it up weeks ago so I can't remember, There are permissions somewhere that let you set what people are allowed to do. It must be really simoke because I just did it in a couple of minutes without having seen the site before.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:18

    I'm not sure it does.... I clicked on it and I can see audio files in there. 4 of them?

    You can see them but you shouldn't be able to play them. Would you try to please

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:19

    i hope mr c knows about this imposter!

    Damn. Gave away Mr C's real name. I told him he should have had a better alias

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 23:19

    You can see them but you shouldn't be able to play them. Would you try to please

    Yeah I can hear them.

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:19

    I set it up weeks ago so I can't remember, There are permissions somewhere that let you set what people are allowed to do. It must be really simoke because I just did it in a couple of minutes without having seen the site before.

    i really gotta pay more attention!

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:19

    Damn. Gave away Mr C's real name. I told him he should have had a better alias

    :P

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:19

    Yeah I can hear them.

    FAIL

    Thanks

  • Alianora La Canta26/08/2009 at 23:20

    well, that’s hardly fair is it. {Comment #760}

    Er... ...I'd like to come up with a witty and brilliant counter-attack, but I don't think it exists in this case ;)

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:22

    I unchecked the guest's can download box assuming that stopped people playing files but apparently not.

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 23:23

    I can't download anything. But yeah, it's all playable.

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:23

    I unchecked the guest's can download box assuming that stopped people playing files but apparently not.

    it does. but it doesn't stop them previewing i don't think :(

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:24

    Alison can you tell me what you can do now on the sidepodradio dropio?

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:25

    it does. but it doesn't stop them previewing i don't think :(

    I thought they could see what was on the site but not play it. Should have tested. Dropio fail for not allowing that option

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 23:25

    I get a screen saying "log into this drop"

    and a box for a password

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:27

    I get a screen saying "log into this drop"

    and a box for a password

    That is what I thought. If I leave it like that then only people with the password can upload stuff which should work. It means only a small number of people can access it. Would your friend be happy with that?

  • Alison26/08/2009 at 23:28

    Yeah absolutely. That's ideal.

  • Steven Roy26/08/2009 at 23:31

    Yeah absolutely. That's ideal.

    I just need to think of a decent password and then set it up like that. It means people who upload can listen to other people's material but I think I know a way round that.

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 23:37

    Nothing seems to happen when I boot with the ubuntu disk in :(

  • me26/08/2009 at 23:38

    Nothing seems to happen when I boot with the ubuntu disk in :(

    you need to assign boot priority to USB in the bios.

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 23:39

    you need to assign boot priority to USB in the bios.

    Ah, oki doki.

  • Lukeh26/08/2009 at 23:42

    No luck. :(

    Me thinks a visit back to HP is in order but for now I have to go sleep. Cheers for the help though :)

    G'night