We're recovering from Monaco today (and the Indy 500 if you partake of such things), and thankfully in the UK we have another bank holiday to make the most of. Others are not so lucky, but let us know what you're up to either way. Here are some things we're discussing:

  • Despite Mosley's suggestions that the teams were coming round to the idea of a budget cap, AUTOSPORT is reporting that the teams have written a letter to the FIA demanding the 2010 regulations are scrapped. Now, either Max got the wrong end of the stick in the meeting, or he was bending the truth when he talked to the BBC, but the teams are clearly not on board yet.
  • Despite an improved showing from the team, Massa has suggested that it's no use getting excited about a Ferrari comeback yet. I'm not sure any of us were, but it's good that Massa isn't raising his hopes just yet either.
  • Although it's no longer a preview to the race, the Parade Lap is still worth checking out. There's actually very little specific F1 talk, with just a general enjoyment of all things motor racing, plus some excellent Giggles'll Fix It suggestions.

That'll do it for now. The Debrief will be along very shortly, so you can also enjoy the edited podcast in all it's glory. As normal, I'll see you in the comments.

1194 responses

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:04

    Hello new daily thread

    What's the betting it rains today, Bank Holiday an'all?

  • lou24/05/2009 at 23:05

    huh? it got dark... and it's 12am... how did that happen!

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:05

    Hello new daily thread

    What's the betting it rains today, Bank Holiday an'all?

    Think it looks as good as today! Er, yesterday!

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:05

    huh? it got dark... and it's 12am... how did that happen!

    :D

    It got dark...

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:05

    huh? it got dark... and it's 12am... how did that happen!

    I know and im barely 1/5th through catching up on all the sport!

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:05

    huh? it got dark... and it's 12am... how did that happen!

    Welcome to sidepodcast?

  • lou24/05/2009 at 23:06

    *cries* i've just seen my emails for today/yesterday.... how can i get that many emails on a sunday :( i need to learn to check them more regularly on a race day...

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:06

    Think it looks as good as today! Er, yesterday!

    Here's hoping, but not holding my breath

    I'm working anyway

  • lou24/05/2009 at 23:07

    It got dark...

    the last time i looked at the clock it was 8.30pm and still light.. :(

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:07

    Vijay's team lost the IPL final, bet he wishes he was in Monaco, must have cost a fair bit to park a boat there he didn't use for most of the weekend

  • Amy24/05/2009 at 23:07

    yay for new far more mobile friendly post!

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:08

    Think it looks as good as today! Er, yesterday!

    Here's hoping, but not holding my breath

    I'm working anyway

    Just checking the BBC weather site. Radar shows spotted showers over my location from about 1pm to 6pm. Grr.

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:08

    Vijay's team lost the IPL final, bet he wishes he was in Monaco, must have cost a fair bit to park a boat there he didn't use for most of the weekend

    Small change, Fake Flav calls him Indian Branson :)

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:11

    Small change, Fake Flav calls him Indian Branson :)

    But the richer they are the stingier they get! :D

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:12

    Boo, no listeners on the map for Montreal yet

    Sidepod Meet-up - International is not going well

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:13

    Boo, no listeners on the map for Montreal yet

    Im annoyed the city i grew up in inst represented at all!

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:14

    Im annoyed the city i grew up in inst represented at all!

    And it inst Montreal or anywhere near it! tempted to fill a big hole on the map...

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:14

    Im annoyed the city i grew up in inst represented at all!

    Nick, you grew up in Montreal.. Awesome city.

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:14

    Im annoyed the city i grew up in inst represented at all!

    Can always post it as your origins

    http://platial.com/map/Sidepodcast-s-Listeners/594335/#post4397189

    or

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Listener+Map

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:15

    Tomorrow's lunch to prepare, I shall return

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:17

    Can always post it as your origins

    OK, map is now much more balanced

  • lou24/05/2009 at 23:32

    i think i'm going to end up overloading my laptop soon... it's suddenly got very hot and it's making very load fan noises.... being a hyper brawn fan (yes i'm still hyper) is bad for my laptop...

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:33

    OK, map is now much more balanced

    Good stuff.

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:35

    i think i'm going to end up overloading my laptop soon... it's suddenly got very hot and it's making very load fan noises.... being a hyper brawn fan (yes i'm still hyper) is bad for my laptop...

    Being a fan of F1 or any racing will do that..

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:35

    OK, map is now much more balanced

    Yes and Florida is now represented

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:35

    i think i'm going to end up overloading my laptop soon... it's suddenly got very hot and it's making very load fan noises.... being a hyper brawn fan (yes i'm still hyper) is bad for my laptop...

    I ended up using one of these after my laptop melted part of my desk at uni http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-F5L001er-Laptop-Cooling-Stand/dp/B000W0D15O

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:36

    I am clearing my racing brain by watching an ep of The Apprentice from a couple of weeks ago. Like everything else, I'm a bit behind... but these smart yet idiotic people are just too compelling

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:36

    Yes and Florida is now represented

    Loved the fact you left the thread to help someone drowning last night and picked it up like nothing had happened!

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:37

    Loved the fact you left the thread to help someone drowning last night and picked it up like nothing had happened!

    He did??

  • lou24/05/2009 at 23:38

    I ended up using one of these after my laptop melted part of my desk at uni http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-F5L001er-Laptop-Cooling-Stand/dp/B000W0D15O

    strange questions (but i'm tired and doing waaaay too many things at once) but is it just a little stand with a fan? cause if so it's a great idea.

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:38

    Loved the fact you left the thread to help someone drowning last night and picked it up like nothing had happened!

    It wasn't as great as you thought. We got halfway across the bay in our boat when the Coast Guard cancelled us, so we had to wash the boat and got nothing for it. It really sucked, I would have rather stayed in the live doohickey, then gone to bed at a reasonable hour

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:40

    I was worried about not getting enough sleep. I rushed home and watched Monaco, but was worried about nodding off during the Indy 500...no jokes please

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:41

    It wasn't as great as you thought. We got halfway across the bay in our boat when the Coast Guard cancelled us, so we had to wash the boat and got nothing for it. It really sucked, I would have rather stayed in the live doohickey, then gone to bed at a reasonable hour

    Boats, Saving lives... Far more dramatic than anything i have achived recently, other than playing hide and seek with a stupid spider... which i lost.

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:41

    Yes and Florida is now represented

    ah-ha. joe from florida, not joe from ireland?

    sorry, my brain struggled with that for a good five minutes before it clicked.

  • lou24/05/2009 at 23:42

    ah-ha. joe from florida, not joe from ireland?

    looks like we have 2 joes ;)

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:42

    I was worried about not getting enough sleep. I rushed home and watched Monaco, but was worried about nodding off during the Indy 500...no jokes please

    What do you think rates higher, Jenson's glory jog, or Hello's climbing?

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:42

    Boats, Saving lives... Far more dramatic than anything i have achived recently, other than playing hide and seek with a stupid spider... which i lost.

    I understand battling the beasts. I have a rat whose days are numbered....I hope

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:42

    It wasn't as great as you thought. We got halfway across the bay in our boat when the Coast Guard cancelled us, so we had to wash the boat and got nothing for it. It really sucked, I would have rather stayed in the live doohickey, then gone to bed at a reasonable hour

    that is quite dramatic though. i missed the original comment, hope you managed the full 500.

    Boats, Saving lives... Far more dramatic than anything i have achived recently, other than playing hide and seek with a stupid spider... which i lost.

    heheheh.

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:43

    Morning, everyone!

    What do you think rates higher, Jenson's glory jog, or Hello's climbing?

    Jenson's glory jog! :D Helio always does his Spiderman thing. Jenson's was new - and tougher too. ;)

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:43

    debrief is up btw: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/05/25/f1-debrief-i-might-like-tall-blokes-with-goggly-eyes/

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:44

    Morning, everyone!

    hola.

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:44
  • me24/05/2009 at 23:44

    That was QUICK! :D

    short show and it's bank holiday, so christine can stay up late.

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:45

    That was QUICK! :D

    short show and it's bank holiday, so christine can stay up late.

    plus, she's a genius, obviously.

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:45

    Hi Journeyer.

    Jenson's glory jog! :D Helio always does his Spiderman thing. Jenson's was new - and tougher too. ;)

    Normally I'd agree but this time Helio could have been sat in jail right now instead, so it means a lot...

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:45

    Hola, yes Nick caught the entire 500 now I'm working on being comfortably numb and watching Top Gear waiting to see if NASCAR races....Go Scott Speed

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:45

    plus, she's a genius, obviously.

    That's why. :P

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:45

    That was QUICK! :D

    Amazingly fast

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:46

    Jenson's glory jog! :D Helio always does his Spiderman thing. Jenson's was new - and tougher too. ;)

    Does anyone know what the deal with the job was?

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:46

    I meant Jog

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:46

    Hola, yes Nick caught the entire 500 now I'm working on being comfortably numb and watching Top Gear waiting to see if NASCAR races....Go Scott Speed

    NASCAR's rain delay is silly. Am waiting for it now too. Funny, though - one of the JTV NASCAR channels had a Monaco GP replay! :D

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:47

    Does anyone know what the deal with the [jog] was?

    Jenson parked at the regular parc ferme; he forgot that they usually park it in front of the royal box. ;)

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:47

    Margaret on the Apprentice:

    "They are very lucky they managed to sell their skeleton"

  • lou24/05/2009 at 23:48

    short show and it's bank holiday, so christine can stay up late.

    wow did anyone even predict the podcast length this week?

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:48

    Jenson parked at the regular parc ferme; he forgot that they usually park it in front of the royal box. ;)

    I guess that's understandable. I was hoping against hope that FIF1 would get a point. I would sacrifice Massa for a point for Fisi

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:48

    wow did anyone even predict the podcast length this week?

    ummm. no.

    ...and doing so now is cheating ;)

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:49

    I guess that's understandable. I was hoping against hope that FIF1 would get a point. I would sacrifice Massa for a point for Fisi

    I'd sacrifice Bourdais. ;)

  • lou24/05/2009 at 23:49

    ...and doing so now is cheating ;)

    you know me too well :P

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:49

    ...and doing so now is cheating ;)

    you know me too well :P

    :P

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:49

    I'd sacrifice Bourdais. ;)

    Bourdais needs it!

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:50

    Bourdais needs it!

    and deserved it.

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:50

    I'd sacrifice Bourdais. ;)

    Either way, some points that were a year too late

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:50

    Bourdais needs it!

    But so does everyone else above him - and I like the Brawns and the Ferraris.

  • Joe24/05/2009 at 23:51

    I think I'll see Bourdais in Indycar next year

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:51

    Bourdais needs it!

    and deserved it.

    Yep defo. I was convinced he and Fisi had ruined their races with that strategy.

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F124/05/2009 at 23:52

    #35 - lou said:

    ah-ha. joe from florida, not joe from ireland?

    looks like we have 2 joes

    Come on me. You have two Jordans from the same Country, and you guys never mention specifically which one you are referring to...

    I keep thinking "I did what?" before figuring you are talking about Wilman...

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:53

    Come on me. You have two Jordans from the same Country, and you guys never mention specifically which one you are referring to...

    in the comments you use two different names though.

    but, you raise a good point. keep calling us on it, or we'll never improve.

  • Joe in Florida24/05/2009 at 23:53

    Is this better?

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:55

    Is this better?

    :D I might abbreviate it to Forida Joe for expedience though

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:55

    Is this better?

    :)

    only if you're happy with that though?

    i had a brain fade earlier and couldn't work out why joe (in ireland) who was last seen perusing itunes, had suddenly acquired a boat.

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:55

    Is this better?

    Very good :D

  • Joe in Fla24/05/2009 at 23:55

    Roger that

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:56

    I think people should be stopped from having only their first names.... oh.

  • Bassano Clapper24/05/2009 at 23:56

    If we get another Bassano Clapper, I'm going to get worried

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:57

    I think people should be stopped from having only their first names.... oh.

    You have W. :D

  • Joe in Fla24/05/2009 at 23:57

    i had a brain fade earlier and couldn't work out why joe (in ireland) who was last seen perusing itunes, had suddenly acquired a boat.

    I don't own the boat, my fire department does. I'm watching Top Gear and thought, "What a great tune during a morning run"

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:58

    I think people should be stopped from having only their first names.... oh.

    You have W. :D

    I'm lucky in that there aren't many other Pats here though...

  • Journeyer24/05/2009 at 23:59

    I'm lucky in that there aren't many other Pats here though...

    :D

    Watching NASCAR on Sky Sports. It's bizarre watching NASCAR with British analysis. :D

  • Joe in Fla24/05/2009 at 23:59

    Watching NASCAR on Sky Sports. It's bizarre watching NASCAR with British analysis. :D

    Have they dried the track yet?

  • Nick24/05/2009 at 23:59

    I don't own the boat, my fire department does.

    That gets another unnamed laughter powered aircraft

  • me24/05/2009 at 23:59

    I'm lucky in that there aren't many other Pats here though...

    there are a few expats though.

    (c'mon that deserves a cymbal)

  • Pat W24/05/2009 at 23:59

    Watching NASCAR on Sky Sports. It's bizarre watching NASCAR with British analysis. :D

    Are they patronising the audience again?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:00

    I'm lucky in that there aren't many other Pats here though...

    there are a few expats though.

    (c'mon that deserves a cymbal)

    www.instantrimshot.com !

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:00

    Watching NASCAR on Sky Sports. It's bizarre watching NASCAR with British analysis. :D

    Sky Sports and Analysis in the same sentance

    Who'd a thunk it?

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:00

    www.instantrimshot.com !

    why thank you.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:00

    Have they dried the track yet?

    They're trying, but the constant drizzling makes it very difficult to pull off.

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:00

    Sky Sports and Analysis in the same sentance

    Who'd a thunk it?

    :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:00

    Are they patronising the audience again?

    Not that much, actually...

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:01

    I'm lucky in that there aren't many other Pats here though...

    :) me too, the only other lou i used to get confused with when people were talking about her was Lou Goodman :)

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:01

    If we get another Bassano Clapper, I'm going to get worried

    haha :D

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:01

    That gets another unnamed laughter powered aircraft

    Now on the wikitionary for the 'wha?' replies :D

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:01

    Not that much, actually...

    They do on IndyCar and I think they use the same analysis guy... but I haven't seen their coverage in ages

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:02

    I think they'll be racing tommorrow. Hey someone mentioned that bank holiday. Memorial Day?

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:02

    I think they'll be racing tommorrow. Hey someone mentioned that bank holiday. Memorial Day?

    We dont get decent names for holidays, its always just credit to the banks

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:03

    I think they'll be racing tomorrow. Hey someone mentioned that bank holiday. Memorial Day?

    Yup, that's the most likely scenario right now.

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:03

    What is the holiday for you guys tommorrow?

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:04

    Ive finished my sport catchup marathon, started watching the race again... hope im not going hyper ;)

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:04

    Ive finished my sport catchup marathon, started watching the race again... hope im not going hyper ;)

    Not a bit

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:04

    BTW, where's the Wiktionary? Can't seem to find it.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:04

    BTW, where's the Wiktionary? Can't seem to find it.

    Never mind. :D

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:05

    What is the holiday for you guys tommorrow?

    that is a very good question..i've no idea.

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 00:05

    #74 - Bassano Clapper said:

    If we get another Bassano Clapper, I’m going to get worried

    I would be worried too if he's called Bassano Clapper, Jr. and he drives for Renault... :D .

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:06

    What is the holiday for you guys tommorrow?

    Spring Bank Holiday

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:06
  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:07

    Spring Bank Holiday

    we have a spring bank holiday?

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:07

    What is the holiday for you guys tommorrow?

    Just another excuse to thank the banks for a holiday

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:07

    we have a spring bank holiday?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_holiday#History_of_bank_holidays

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:08

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_bank_holidays

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:10

    Memorial Day for us. But I'll raise a toast for the good guys

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:10

    So - if Toyota do exit F1, will they just shut down Cologne, or will they sell it ala Honda? And if they sell, who'd want to buy it? Prodrive, hopefully? :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:10

    So - if Toyota do exit F1, will they just shut down Cologne, or will they sell it ala Honda? And if they sell, who'd want to buy it? Prodrive, hopefully? :D

    And what engines will Williams take on? Merc and Ferrari will get dispensation to provide engines to another team...

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:11

    So - if Toyota do exit F1, will they just shut down Cologne, or will they sell it ala Honda? And if they sell, who'd want to buy it? Prodrive, hopefully? :D

    Is that a possiblility? My team going down

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 00:11

    Apparently the Queen is having a birthday holiday over here in a couple of weeks (June 8)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:11

    So - if Toyota do exit F1, will they just shut down Cologne, or will they sell it ala Honda? And if they sell, who'd want to buy it? Prodrive, hopefully? :D

    Prodrive already have a place, ive driven past it quite a few times, I guess Schumacher GP could buy it

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:11

    Is that a possiblility? My team going down

    It's more than a possibility right now. JA and Joe S both mentioning it.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:12

    Prodrive already have a place, ive driven past it quite a few times, I guess Schumacher GP could buy it

    So we'd have a Brawn GP AND a Schumacher GP?

    Hmmm... How about Campos Racing buying it?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:12

    we only get 8 public holidays! that's hardly fair. i like school holidays.....

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:12

    What is the holiday for you guys tommorrow?

    that is a very good question..i've no idea.

    Whitsun isn't it?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitsun

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:13

    we only get 8 public holidays! that's hardly fair. i like school holidays.....

    we have too many to mention. :D we have 1 in January, 3 in April (Catholic Holy Week), 1 in May, 1 in June, 2 in August, 2 in November, and AT LEAST 3 in December. ;)

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 00:13

    I wish I had a holiday. I'm almost falling asleep here at work.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:14

    We dont get decent names for holidays, its always just credit to the banks

    Political correctness has forced us to change them as most of them were Christian based (often with Pagan roots)

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:15

    Hmmm... How about Campos Racing buying it?

    no-ones going to buy a race factory in cologne are they?

    one of toyota's biggest problems since they started in f1 has been attracting personnel to germany.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:15

    we have too many to mention.

    You can't have too many public holidays

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:15

    Political correctness has forced us to change them as most of them were Christian based (often with Pagan roots)

    ours are still mostly Christian based. a couple are national holidays, though. :)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:15

    Political correctness has forced us to change them as most of them were Christian based (often with Pagan roots)

    The Americans always have good names though...

    We could have a Churchill Day, a Battle of Britain day...not to mention StGeorges Day

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:15

    we have a bunch. I heard that was the downfall of Rome, too many holidays

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:16

    one of toyota's biggest problems since they started in f1 has been attracting personnel to germany.

    I never thought of that but BMW and Hinwil?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:16

    no-ones going to buy a race factory in cologne are they?

    well, BMW run in Hinwil, and it didn't cause too many problems. and it would be a shame if that facility went to waste...

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:16

    we have a bunch. I heard that was the downfall of Rome, too many holidays

    That and the mass slaughter of non-christians

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:16

    I never thought of that but BMW and Hinwil?

    Hehe. Bassano and I sharing the same thought... ;)

    Wait til we get USF1 - they're in Charlotte!

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:17

    The Americans always have good names though...

    We could have a Churchill Day, a Battle of Britain day...not to mention StGeorges Day

    Only if they are taxable :(

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:17

    Wait til we get USF1 - they're in Charlotte!

    Yeah but thats just another Motorsport Valley, people dont need to move homes to take part

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:18

    I never thought of that but BMW and Hinwil?

    fair point.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:19

    And what engines will Williams take on? Merc and Ferrari will get dispensation to provide engines to another team...

    And Kaz will get the boot :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:19

    The Americans always have good names though...

    We could have a Churchill Day, a Battle of Britain day...not to mention StGeorges Day

    We have so-so names. Some are great, though (Day of Valor, National Heroes Day, and some others named after our heroes). :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:19

    Yeah but thats just another Motorsport Valley, people dont need to move homes to take part

    That's NASCAR Valley - I don't think a lot of NASCAR people will be jumping ship. That said, you kinda have a point.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:20

    And Kaz will get the boot :D

    Good point. Poor Kobayashi, though - I think he has some legit pace.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:20

    It's a bit like Italy, there's a Saint's day almost every week

    Your name, town, city, football team, etc

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:20

    Good point. Poor Kobayashi, though - I think he has some legit pace.

    Of course, Trulli and Glock would be in worse shape...

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:20

    Good point. Poor Kobayashi, though - I think he has some legit pace.

    Wasn't he in The Usual Suspects?

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:21

    Good point. Poor Kobayashi, though - I think he has some legit pace.

    Wasn't he in The Usual Suspects?

    :D

    D:

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 00:21

    Nascar, Public holidays, F1 teams shutting down.

    I'm way too tired to keep up with this

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:22

    Wasn't he in The Usual Suspects?

    heheh!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:22

    Wasn't he in The Usual Suspects?

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:22

    D:

    Is that a dyslexic smiley?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:23

    BTW, if BMW do leave (which I think is unlikely - this has been their only bad year to date), I hope Sauber comes back. :D

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:24

    BTW, if BMW do leave (which I think is unlikely - this has been their only bad year to date), I hope Sauber comes back. :D

    They might do it from the background and let Sauber take the fall until the recovery

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:25

    BTW, if BMW do leave (which I think is unlikely - this has been their only bad year to date), I hope Sauber comes back. :D

    I agree, I always like Peter Sauber. I hate the state of flux our sport is in

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:25

    They might do it from the background and let Sauber take the fall until the recovery

    Will they still provide Sauber BMW engines? I hope so...

    It would be very odd to see a grid powered exclusively by Ferraris, Mercs, and Cosworths...

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 00:25

    It would be very odd to see a grid powered exclusively by Ferraris, Mercs, and Cosworths...

    Used to be ONLY Ferrari and Cosworths

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 00:26

    Used to be ONLY Ferrari and Cosworths

    Won't Renault keep their engine side going like before?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:26

    I agree, I always like Peter Sauber. I hate the state of flux our sport is in

    It's all part of a cycle. Manufacturers were around in the 50s and 80s - but left both times. Give them 10 years or so. They'll start coming back as engine suppliers, and before you know it, they'll be buying out teams again...

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:26

    I hope the manufactures realise they can still get good publicity from being engine suppliers like they used to be.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:26

    Will they still provide Sauber BMW engines? I hope so...

    Weren't Sauber traditionally with Mercedes?

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:26

    Is that a dyslexic smiley?

    oops.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:27

    Used to be ONLY Ferrari and Cosworths

    True, but that was back in... the 60s? Even in the 80s we had Megatrons and Lambos....

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:27

    Weren't Sauber traditionally with Mercedes?

    Since the 1970s, Peter Sauber built sports cars. After using turbocharged Mercedes V8 engines in the 1980s, his team became the official factory team of Mercedes-Benz, reviving the Silver Arrow legend

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauber

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:27

    Weren't Sauber traditionally with Mercedes?

    ferrari wasn't it?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:27

    Is that a dyslexic smiley?

    nothing wrong with dyslexia :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:28

    Won't Renault keep their engine side going like before?

    Last time they left (1997), they didn't. The engine side got spun off as Mecachrome - and Flavio ran it after he was booted out of Benetton.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:28

    True, but that was back in... the 60s? Even in the 80s we had Megatrons and Lambos....

    Now I'm pretty sure that's a Transformer

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 00:28

    Even in the 80s we had Megatrons

    Are you thinking or Transformers? ;-)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:28

    Since the 1970s, Peter Sauber built sports cars. After using turbocharged Mercedes V8 engines in the 1980s, his team became the official factory team of Mercedes-Benz, reviving the Silver Arrow legend

    Of course, that partnership ended when Mercedes ditched Sauber for McLaren. But a revival of that partnership is possible.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:28

    Are you thinking or Transformers? ;-)

    Snap

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:29

    I heard something about Huyndai wanting into F1, has that just died off

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:29

    Are you thinking or Transformers? ;-)

    Snap

    D:

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:29

    ferrari wasn't it?

    that was after mercedes left for mclaren and sauber went through that painful period with ford...

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:29

    D:

    doh!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:29

    I heard something about Huyndai wanting into F1, has that just died off

    yup. credit crunch. they're focusing on the traditional build-a-Tilkedrome-GP route instead.

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 00:29

    :D

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:30

    that was after mercedes left for mclaren and sauber went through that painful period with ford...

    Wasnt as painful as Mclarens period with pugs

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 00:30

    :D

    Do it with me. Colon, then captial D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:30

    Are you thinking or Transformers? ;-)

    After BMW left the sport in 1986, they spun off their engine unit, which was duly named Megatron. :)

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:30
  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:30

    Wasnt as painful as Mclarens period with pugs

    Too true. :)

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:30

    Do it with me. Colon, then captial D

    hahahaha. meanie!

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:30

    Wasnt as painful as Mclarens period with pugs

    Dark days :(

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:31

    Do it with me. Colon, then captial D

    haha i would have thought it would have been the capital D that Mr C would have had problems with ;)

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 00:31

    Weren’t Sauber traditionally with Mercedes?

    ferrari wasn’t it?

    Sauber's been around the block a few times. I remember a Hurrying Heinz-Harlad Frenzten running around with a Merc Powered Sauber and I do remember a certain "Iceman" Mk. II contrlling a ferrari powered Sauber....

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:32

    After BMW left the sport in 1986, they spun off their engine unit, which was duly named Megatron. :)

    Engines in disguise

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:32

    haha i would have thought it would have been the capital D that Mr C would have had problems with ;)

    We know him too well too ;)

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:32

    Engines in disguise

    What was a megatron?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:32

    If anything, I really hope the exit of the manufacturers would pave the way for a Williams resurgence. I'm glad they made it to this point. Now that the big auto companies are leaving, their long-term survival looks very good. :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:33

    Coca-Cola 600 postponed to noon ET tomorrow.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:33

    I do remember a certain "Iceman" Mk. II contrlling a ferrari powered Sauber....

    After getting special permission to get his Super Licence due to his lack of experience in the lower formulae

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:34

    What was a megatron?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatron_(engine)

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:34

    We know him too well too ;)

    haha :D

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 00:34

    wow did anyone even predict the podcast length this week?

    Forgot. Switched to Indy as soon as it was finished. I guess we can't be mystic if we forget the competition

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:34

    What was a megatron?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatron_(engine)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatron (Transformer)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:34

    Oops, link didn't work too well.

    Try this one.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 00:36

    ok. even though i'm still hyper and have loads of energy, i have to go to bed as i have revision to do tomorrow. no idea how i'm going to sleep though, i can still hear the f1 cars in my head :D thanks for a great day guys! night! x

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:36

    If anything, I really hope the exit of the manufacturers would pave the way for a Williams resurgence

    Would be kinda nice to see teams racing cos that's their primary business

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:36

    ok. even though i'm still hyper and have loads of energy, i have to go to bed as i have revision to do tomorrow. no idea how i'm going to sleep though, i can still hear the f1 cars in my head :D thanks for a great day guys! night! x

    night lou.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:37

    Would be kinda nice to see teams racing cos that's their primary business

    Renault would become Briatore GP, not sure how Toyota and BMW would end up...

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:37

    ok. even though i'm still hyper and have loads of energy, i have to go to bed as i have revision to do tomorrow. no idea how i'm going to sleep though x

    Deep & slow breaths Lou

    G'night

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:37

    night lou. :)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:37

    Night Lou

    I still think he should call his team Queens Park Racing

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:38

    Renault would become Briatore GP

    Team Thong

    or Team Hirsute

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 00:38

    I am now starting to wonder what engine has not been in the back of a Sauber car now.

    Sauber-Ford. Sauber-Mercedes, Sauber-Ferrari (might have been rebadged as Sauber-Petronas), and Sauber-BMW.

    Only ones that missing from the big guns are Honda and Renault.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:39

    I still think he should call his team Queens Park Racing

    Not exactly a winners tradition though ;)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:39

    Not exactly a winners tradition though ;)

    But it sounds good :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:39

    Sauber-Ford. Sauber-Mercedes, Sauber-Ferrari (might have been rebadged as Sauber-Petronas), and Sauber-BMW.

    Right on the money. You named them all. :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:39

    I still think he should call his team Queens Park Racing

    You know... that might actually work. :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:39

    But it sounds good :D

    And it's also QPR! :)

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:40

    I still think he should call his team Queens Park Racing

    You know... that might actually work. :D

    Is there room in Shepherd's Bush for an F1 factory?

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 00:41

    #191 - lou said:

    ok. even though i’m still hyper and have loads of energy, i have to go to bed as i have revision to do tomorrow. no idea how i’m going to sleep though, i can still hear the f1 cars in my head thanks for a great day guys! night! x

    Nite, Lou!

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:41

    Is there room in Shepherd's Bush for an F1 factory?

    There's a lovely patch of green that could be used...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:42

    There's a lovely patch of green that could be used...

    Not big enough. :D

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:42

    There's a lovely patch of green that could be used...

    But where would all the winos go?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:42

    Night Lou.

    Is there room in Shepherd's Bush for an F1 factory?

    There's a lovely patch of green that could be used...

    There were rumours several months back the BBC want to sell Television Centre and move everything to somewhere else..

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:43

    There were rumours several months back the BBC want to sell Television Centre and move everything to somewhere else..

    Didn't they just renovate that place?

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:43

    Not big enough. :D

    :D not the pitch, the actual green!

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:43

    There were rumours several months back the BBC want to sell Television Centre and move everything to somewhere else..

    They've got so many places scattered across the four winds

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 00:43

    #201 - Nick said:

    Not exactly a winners tradition though

    But it sounds good

    Now that Lou's gone, "Queen's Park Racing" could do a BAR/Honda and try to buy a winning tradition although.... :D .

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:43

    Didn't they just renovate that place?

    Probably. They always seem to be and it remains a dump. I thought they spent a lot of money on the news bit.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:45

    Now that Lou's gone, "Queen's Park Racing" could do a BAR/Honda and try to buy a winning tradition although.... :D .

    Brawn nearly named the team Tyrrell. Flavio could name it Toleman.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 00:45

    There were rumours several months back the BBC want to sell Television Centre and move everything to somewhere else..

    I think that is still on the cards

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:47

    Flavio could name it Toleman.

    What about Shaddupa Ya Race F1?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:47

    What about Shaddupa Ya Race F1?

    Or Parracaro F1.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 00:47

    http://www.justin.tv/mc_kik_2

    Running the Monaco grid walk. Brundle said Geri Halliwell was Bernie's daughter then she looked straight at Bernie and said he father used to be a car dealer.

    You don't think....

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:49

    You don't think....

    Bernie did give her a "don't tell everybody look"

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 00:50

    Running the Monaco grid walk. Brundle said Geri Halliwell was Bernie's daughter then she looked straight at Bernie and said he father used to be a car dealer.

    You don't think....

    Nah! :D

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 00:51

    #216 - Journeyer said:

    Now that Lou’s gone, “Queen’s Park Racing” could do a BAR/Honda and try to buy a winning tradition although…. .

    Brawn nearly named the team Tyrrell. Flavio could name it Toleman.

    Why not Life, Zakspeed, ATS, Amon or Longitudinal Inertia ?

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:51

    You don't think....

    she has too much talent to be an ecclestone...

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 00:51

    Or Ligier

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:52

    she has too much talent to be an ecclestone...

    so why doesn't she demonstrate it?

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:53

    so why doesn't she demonstrate it?

    :D

    Still more than Tamara though

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:54

    so why doesn't she demonstrate it?

    she does.

    :P

  • Alenyaa25/05/2009 at 00:54

    ok. even though i’m still hyper and have loads of energy, i have to go to bed as i have revision to do tomorrow. no idea how i’m going to sleep though, i can still hear the f1 cars in my head thanks for a great day guys! night! x

    Seriously, when this season is over, the girl is going to suffer from withdrawal symptons the likes of which the world has never seen...

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:54

    she does.

    Camera locator?

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:54

    she does.

    She did... then she joined the spice girls

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:55

    Seriously, when this season is over, the girl is going to suffer from withdrawal symptons the likes of which the world has never seen...

    Dont tell me the season ends....

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:55

    Seriously, when this season is over, the girl is going to suffer from withdrawal symptons the likes of which the world has never seen...

    hehehehe.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:55

    Seriously, when this season is over, the girl is going to suffer from withdrawal symptons the likes of which the world has never seen...

    Jenson's going to have run for Prime Minister to top this in Lou's eyes

    She needs to watch the 2nd half of the season with Oxygen and a paper bag for hyperventilation

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:55

    She did... then she joined the spice girls

    heehee

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:57

    her only talent was getting from being a bit chubby to being far too thin.. I wanted to step into the video and offer cake..

  • me25/05/2009 at 00:58

    her only talent was getting from being a bit chubby to being far too thin.. I wanted to step into the video and offer cake..

    that's x1 more talent than either ecclestone.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 00:58

    that's x1 more talent than either ecclestone.

    indeed

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:58

    her only talent was getting from being a bit chubby to being far too thin.. I wanted to step into the video and offer cake..

    :D :D

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 00:59

    She needs to watch the 2nd half of the season with Oxygen and a paper bag for hyperventilation

    Oxygen and a paper bag. Do they not do the opposite to each other?

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:59

    that's x1 more talent than either ecclestone.

    Bernie has a talent for being funny on the grid walk

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 00:59

    Oxygen and a paper bag. Do they not do the opposite to each other?

    Alternate

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 00:59

    that's x1 more talent than either ecclestone.

    People are too harsh on bernie. I probably wouldnt have ever watched f1 if it wasnt for him. Although i suspect that when i cant watch it anymore it could also be his fault

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:00

    that's x1 more talent than either ecclestone.

    Bernie has a talent for being funny on the grid walk

    i'll rephrase that.

    that's 1x more talent than either ecclestone daughter.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:00

    Alternate

    Paper bag to the point of suffocation then oxygen until she becomes too hyper?

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:00

    People are too harsh on bernie.

    He does bring it on himself

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:00

    Paper bag to the point of suffocation then oxygen until she becomes too hyper?

    A happy medium between the two :)

  • Alenyaa25/05/2009 at 01:01

    Jenson’s going to have run for Prime Minister to top this in Lou’s eyes

    And it can only go downhill from there, so let's hope he doesn't :p

    Just a random thought: how does Rubens expect not to play second fiddle when he loses 12 seconds or so in one stint to his teammate who is on a similar strategy?

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:02

    People are too harsh on bernie. I probably wouldnt have ever watched f1 if it wasnt for him. Although i suspect that when i cant watch it anymore it could also be his fault

    He gets way too much credit. Every other major sport has gained massive TV exposure over the period he has been running F1 but to listen to some pople you would think that had he not got involved we would stil only have have half an hour of highlights on a Sunday night.

  • Alenyaa25/05/2009 at 01:03

    Paper bag to the point of suffocation then oxygen until she becomes too hyper?

    XD

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:03

    Just a random thought: how does Rubens expect not to play second fiddle when he loses 12 seconds or so in one stint to his teammate who is on a similar strategy?

    JA says Rubens helped Jenson dial the car in. Jenson wouldn't have won without Rubens...

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:03

    He gets way too much credit. Every other major sport has gained massive TV exposure over the period he has been running F1 but to listen to some pople you would think that had he not got involved we would stil only have have half an hour of highlights on a Sunday night.

    I always compare pre bernie racing to boxing, great spectacle, but with no overall purpose, he gave it the purpose and made it interesting

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 01:03

    #240 - Steven Roy said:

    She needs to watch the 2nd half of the season with Oxygen and a paper bag for hyperventilation

    Oxygen and a paper bag. Do they not do the opposite to each other.

    Not really Steven. When you think about it, this is the basic technology behind 1940's Military Frogmen rebreather technology. You only use 5% of the oxygen availible in every breathe you take so 95% of the gas in teh bag is oxygen and 5% CO2 on the second breathe. Just as long as we grab teh bag from lou before she gets close to her 20th she should be okay...

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:04

    Just a random thought: how does Rubens expect not to play second fiddle when he loses 12 seconds or so in one stint to his teammate who is on a similar strategy?

    Exactly, he's good, but not team leader material

    I'm getting a little tired of his excuses. Classic F1 driver denial I suppose

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:04

    JA says Rubens helped Jenson dial the car in. Jenson wouldn't have won without Rubens...

    in spain agreed. but here also?

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:04

    JA says Rubens helped Jenson dial the car in. Jenson wouldn't have won without Rubens...

    James Allen gets too much credit too

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:05

    James Allen gets too much credit too

    :D

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:05

    Peter Winsor on Windtunnel on SpeedTV, will keep you informed on what he says

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:05

    James Allen gets too much credit too

    :P

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:05

    Peter Winsor on Windtunnel on SpeedTV, will keep you informed on what he says

    cheers joe.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:05

    Peter Winsor on Windtunnel on SpeedTV, will keep you informed on what he says

    Thanks, is it monnaco or USF!?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:06

    in spain agreed. but here also?

    JA mentioned it in his Monaco entry here.

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 01:06

    Exactly, he's good, but not team leader material

    David Coulthard syndrome

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:06

    Thanks, is it monnaco or USF!?

    dont know yet, interveiw hasnt started

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:06

    JA mentioned it in his Monaco entry here.

    fair enough. ta.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:07

    dont know yet, interveiw hasnt started

    i'd guess both - and FIA-FOTA too.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:07

    James Allen gets too much credit too

    I got really worried when (Andy?) mentioned that he had a toolbar

    Mr Allen, please stick to blogging only - regular & micro are just fine

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:07

    I'll spare you the Indy 500 news

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:08

    JA mentioned it in his Monaco entry here.

    Setting up is one thing but you still need to take the chequered flag 1st to be the hero

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:08

    Mr Allen, please stick to blogging only - regular & micro are just fine

    he uses the toolbar for live chats - he'll start having live quali and race blogs by Silverstone, I think.

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:08

    I got really worried when (Andy?) mentioned that he had a toolbar

    i didn't try it. you can see he's keen to do something other than blogging though. the youtube thing failed, but maybe this might work.

    Mr Allen, please stick to blogging only - regular & micro are just fine

    the guy wants you to hear his voice. he can't help himself.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:08

    I'll spare you the Indy 500 news

    Phew! ;)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:09

    Setting up is one thing but you still need to take the chequered flag 1st to be the hero

    but would jenson be able to do it if bruno was his teammate rather than rubens?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:09

    the guy wants you to hear his voice. he can't help himself.

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:09

    the guy wants you to hear his voice. he can't help himself.

    You are feeling very sleepy, tune into James Allen TV

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 01:10

    #268 - Joe in Fla said:

    I’ll spare you the Indy 500 news

    Something about "woman" coming in third ? :D

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:10

    but would jenson be able to do it if bruno was his teammate rather than rubens?

    He's the better driver, just saying

    Am sure Rubens doesn't have the best set up every weekend, driving styles aren't the same?

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:10

    he uses the toolbar for live chats - he'll start having live quali and race blogs by Silverstone, I think.

    that might be interesting. did you check out the chat? love to know if the solution he has will scale.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:10

    He's the better driver, just saying

    Racer, I mean

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:10

    Something about "woman" coming in third? :D

    and moving to NASCAR too...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:11

    that might be interesting. did you check out the chat? love to know if the solution he has will scale.

    nope. didn't bother installing the toolbar. not yet, anyway.

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:11

    and moving to NASCAR too...

    danica?

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:11

    that might be interesting. did you check out the chat? love to know if the solution he has will scale.

    James Allen solves SPC commenting conundrum SHOCK!

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:11

    Something about "woman" coming in third? :D

    No Milka did not finish 3rd, I don't know what you heard

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:11

    danica?

    yup. if she moves out, IRL will be left with the dancer... ;)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:11

    No Milka did not finish 3rd, I don't know what you heard

    the other one! :P

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:11

    yup. if she moves out, IRL will be left with the dancer... ;)

    :D

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:12

    yup. if she moves out, IRL will be left with the dancer... ;)

    Who is that hello?

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 01:13

    #286 - Journeyer said:

    No Milka did not finish 3rd, I don’t know what you heard

    the other one!

    That's great for Sarah Fisher!

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:13

    the other one! :P

    I'm sorry, I don't understand

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:13

    James Allen solves SPC commenting conundrum SHOCK!

    heheh. if james starts live blogging he'll need twitter levels of scalability. it'll make our issues look like a walk in the park.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:13

    Not sure I agree with JA just yet on:

    Ferrari have shown today that they are back in business and they will be in front of Brawn before too long

    They still need to perform at circuits that need high aero grip

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:14

    heheh. if james starts live blogging he'll need twitter levels of scalability. it'll make our issues look like a walk in the park.

    agreed. :) but i'm already in 2 liveblogs as it is! and there's a 3rd one coming? :P

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:14

    heheh. if james starts live blogging he'll need twitter levels of scalability. it'll make our issues look like a walk in the park.

    Hyde?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:14

    They still need to perform at circuits that need high aero grip

    Massa will do well in Turkey. The car is good enough.

    Kimi? Not so sure...

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:15

    agreed. :) but i'm already in 2 liveblogs as it is! and there's a 3rd one coming? :P

    you suggested it, not me!

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:15

    Massa will do well in Turkey. The car is good enough.

    If Rob can baby him round Turn 8

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:15

    FunFact: Monaco's national rugby team, as of January 2009, is 87th in the International Rugby Board rankings.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:15

    I always compare pre bernie racing to boxing, great spectacle, but with no overall purpose, he gave it the purpose and made it interesting

    But other people provide racing with far better coverage. Indy coverage today was vastly better and look at all the thing CAMS have done in Australia. We keep being told that F1 is ultimate high tech. What part of the coverage suggest that? We have the same camera angles for decades. We have directors who point cameras at people in the pits when they are either standing still or trying to get out of shot rather than at cars on the track.

    We get close ups of the side of drivers's heads etc. That would be like putting a camera on a tennis racket showing only the player's forearm. You would have little idea if he hit the ball or not let alone whether the shot was in or out.

    The TV coverage is amateurish.

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:15

    Hyde?

    i think so ;)

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:15

    That's great for Sarah Fisher!

    Last year after the 500 and Sarah's struggles. I went to her website and there was an announcement that they were accepting donations. I sent a $100 check. A few weeks later I got a handwritten note from Sarah with a 1" square carbon fibre peice of her car. I am a fan of hers forever

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:16

    Something about "woman" coming in third? :D

    and moving to NASCAR too...

    Rubbish. Not gonna happen.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:16

    Not really Steven. When you think about it, this is the basic technology behind 1940's Military Frogmen rebreather technology. You only use 5% of the oxygen availible in every breathe you take so 95% of the gas in teh bag is oxygen and 5% CO2 on the second breathe. Just as long as we grab teh bag from lou before she gets close to her 20th she should be okay...

    The point of the bag is to reduce oxygen content and the oxygen increases it

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 01:16

    #290 - Joe in Fla said:

    the other one!

    I’m sorry, I don’t understand

    Journeyer has just comfirmed that Sarah fisher came in third at teh Indy 500! :D .

    #289 - 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F1 said:

    #286 - Journeyer said:

    No Milka did not finish 3rd, I don’t know what you heard

    the other one!

    That’s great for Sarah Fisher!

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:17

    I'll spare you the Indy 500 news

    If there is news I need to know

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:17

    The TV coverage is amateurish.

    I agree with that, F1 needs HD yesterday, interesing one of the cars was carrying HD equipment this weekend.

    This weekends direction was bad, but this is the one race where it isnt his fault.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:17

    We get close ups of the side of drivers's heads etc. That would be like putting a camera on a tennis racket showing only the player's forearm. You would have little idea if he hit the ball or not let alone whether the shot was in or out.

    In-car cam is the Shiznit

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:18

    I wish Sarah came in third. It was Danica. The Pop culture racer

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:18

    The TV coverage is amateurish.

    The Indy coverage had a lot of faults, mainly it suffered from the old ABC/ESPN symptom of only focussing on select drivers and ignoring the rest. The rest of the races are on Versus and are better for that.

    F1 has a long way to go still.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:18

    I agree with that, F1 needs HD yesterday

    Needs investment that the powers that be won't give, alas

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:19

    If there is news I need to know

    roger that.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:19

    That’s great for Sarah Fisher!

    Not her! There's one more! :P

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:19

    Not sure I agree with JA just yet on:

    Ferrari have shown today that they are back in business and they will be in front of Brawn before too long

    They still need to perform at circuits that need high aero grip

    Spot on. The drivers carried the car this weekend the same as Hamilton carried the McLaren until he dropped it.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:19

    Rubbish. Not gonna happen.

    It will happen. And it will end in tears.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:19

    Last year after the 500 and Sarah's struggles. I went to her website and there was an announcement that they were accepting donations. I sent a $100 check. A few weeks later I got a handwritten note from Sarah with a 1" square carbon fibre peice of her car. I am a fan of hers forever

    I heard about that on Pressdog.com, brilliant initiative.

  • Alenyaa25/05/2009 at 01:20

    I'm sure Rubens plays a crucial role within the Brawn team, and I actually like him better than Jenson (don't let Lou read that), but the thought just struck me while watching the GP this afternoon.

    I do think Ross may have favourited Jenson back in Spain, but I guess today only showed that was a justifiable decision. Losing 12 seconds is unacceptable if you don't want to play second fiddle like all those years ago.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:21

    I'm sure Rubens plays a crucial role within the Brawn team, and I actually like him better than Jenson (don't let Lou read that), but the thought just struck me while watching the GP this afternoon.

    Me too! I'm sure he was kept on over hiring Senna because he has a key role..

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:21

    Rubens has great experience but just doesn't have the mean streak to be a champion

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 01:21

    #312 - Journeyer said:

    That’s great for Sarah Fisher!

    Not her! There’s one more!

    Lynn St. James is still racing? :D ...

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 01:22

    Me too! I'm sure he was kept on over hiring Senna because he has a key role..

    Exactly, but he's just not as fast as Jenson. Heikki has the same problem at McLaren.

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:23

    Lynn St. James is still racing? :D ...

    I don't think so. Everytime Indy rolls around the 'birds' that compete pay tribute to her.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:23

    Rubens has great experience but just doesn't have the mean streak to be a champion

    He is a good test driver isn't he? Ton of experience. And a good team player. Brings the car home reasonably strongly. Brawn arguably needed that more than a newbie, even a newbie with the PR Senna would bring.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:23

    RG has done a top job with the Circuit Cup Wiki

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:23

    This weekends direction was bad, but this is the one race where it isnt his fault.

    Believe me I have been complaining about F1 TV directors for years as some people round here will tell you.

    I have a solution to the problem. At the end of the season all the TV directors are put in a room. They are each given a gun and a million bullets. The last man alive directs all races from then on. The only rule is they can only shoot if they have the gun pointed at somethng vital.

    With their record the only thing they will hit is the occasional rae. I reckon they would probably all drown under the spent shells or die of starvation. Then we can get someone with a clue.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:24

    He is a good test driver isn't he? Ton of experience. And a good team player. Brings the car home reasonably strongly.

    I wonder if the same goes for Heidfeld

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:24

    RG has done a top job with the Circuit Cup Wiki

    rg is a legend. no question.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:24

    Lynn St. James is still racing? :D ...

    Nope, try again. :P

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:24

    I wonder if the same goes for Heidfeld

    I'm sure of it. Convinced. Have been for over a year..

  • Aitch25/05/2009 at 01:25

    Lynn St. James is still racing? :D ...

    Nope, try again. :P

    How about Janet Guthrie?

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 01:25

    the tv by me at work is playing a THAT woman marathon on the music video channel . If you never hear from me again i have jumped out the window.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:27

    the tv by me at work is playing a THAT woman marathon on the music video channel . If you never hear from me again i have jumped out the window.

    Don'tcha wish your girlfriend was mute like me

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:27

    the tv by me at work is playing a THAT woman marathon on the music video channel . If you never hear from me again i have jumped out the window.

    where do you work and can't you turn it off?

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:28

    Joe, Joe. Wherefore art tho Joe? ;)

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 01:28

    where do you work and can't you turn it off?

    Amy works *inside* the network: Borg, never sleeps.

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:28

    the tv by me at work is playing a THAT woman marathon on the music video channel . If you never hear from me again i have jumped out the window.

    Amy, I actually said, Noooo, Heikko, Noooo today

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:28

    Joe, Joe. Wherefore art tho Joe? ;)

    That was for Saward

    Was reading the Q's for Joe wiki

    [sorry for the confusion]

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:28

    Don'tcha wish your girlfriend was mute like me

    :D HAHA!

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:29

    the tv by me at work is playing a THAT woman marathon on the music video channel . If you never hear from me again i have jumped out the window.

    Someone somewhere has the remote. Failing that make some tin foil confetti and chuck it in the back

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:29

    Believe me I have been complaining about F1 TV directors for years as some people round here will tell you.

    FOM do all the races bar Monaco, and untill this year Japan, so i think it is only 2 guys + monaco, they do miss stuff, but when you see the number of cameras they work off its probably one of the hardest things to direct there is. At least we dont get the partisan directors only showing the home favourite anymore

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:29

    How about Janet Guthrie?

    Erm, I don't even KNOW who she is. :P

  • Alenyaa25/05/2009 at 01:30

    To pick in on what James Allen said (sorry or changing topic again): I think Ferrari have had by far the best weekend so far, it seems they confirmed their performance increase they showed in Spain. But I doubt they'll beat Brawn for the championship title.

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:30

    Erm, I don't even KNOW who she is. :P

    Somewhat elderly now, I suspect

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 01:30

    #329 - Aitch said:

    Lynn St. James is still racing? …

    Nope, try again.

    How about Janet Guthrie?

    Darn. Aitch beat me to her... I remebered Janet, but I was thinking Bettenhausen for the surname...

  • Aitch25/05/2009 at 01:31

    How about Janet Guthrie?

    Erm, I don't even KNOW who she is. :P

    She is the first woman to race in the 500

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:31

    I think Ferrari have had by far the best weekend so far, it seems they confirmed their performance increase they showed in Spain.

    Monaco isn't a true reflection though, Williams have been strong here the last few years but in few other places

    Monaco is quite unique, though Ferrari are definitely improving in the right directions

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 01:32

    To pick in on what James Allen said (sorry or changing topic again): I think Ferrari have had by far the best weekend so far, it seems they confirmed their performance increase they showed in Spain. But I doubt they'll beat Brawn for the championship title.

    I think Ferrari will be the only serious competition to Brawn, but they are already too far behind. Brawn have both titles won. Remember, you read it here first!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:32

    To pick in on what James Allen said (sorry or changing topic again): I think Ferrari have had by far the best weekend so far, it seems they confirmed their performance increase they showed in Spain. But I doubt they'll beat Brawn for the championship title.

    Button 51

    Barrichello 35

    Raikkonen 9

    Massa 8

    Brawn 86

    Ferrari 17

    No way can Ferrari claw that back.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:32

    I think Ferrari will be the only serious competition to Brawn, but they are already too far behind. Brawn have both titles won. Remember, you read it here first!

    Yep, I read someone else say it yesterday. Dan, I think. ;)

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 01:33

    Yep, I read someone else say it yesterday. Dan, I think. ;)

    Ok, you read it here second then.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:33

    I think Ferrari will be the only serious competition to Brawn

    Red Bull could still make second best

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:34

    Red Bull could still make second best

    Red Bull 42.5

    Toyota 26.5

    Ferrari 17

    McLaren 13

    Those 4 will make for a very interesting battle. Toyota will probably drop back to 5th, though.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:34

    FOM do all the races bar Monaco, and untill this year Japan, so i think it is only 2 guys + monaco, they do miss stuff, but when you see the number of cameras they work off its probably one of the hardest things to direct there is. At least we dont get the partisan directors only showing the home favourite anymore

    My problem is that they spend so much time pointing at people just standing in the pits or in the crowd. They don't seem to get that they are covering a sport. You would never get a tennis or football director showing a match without following the ball but these guys don't seem to understand that you need to see where the car is on the track and where any opposition is. Half them think they are Spielberg and want to do atmospheric shots which tell you nothing. Too many close ups that don't tell you anything.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:34

    Erm, I don't even KNOW who she is. :P

    You have never heard of Janet Guthrie. You need to study more history

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:35

    You have never heard of Janet Guthrie. You need to study more history

    non-F1 history? Yep, I need to study more of it. :D

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:35

    Half them think they are Spielberg and want to do atmospheric shots which tell you nothing. Too many close ups that don't tell you anything.

    Haha, very true

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:35

    You have never heard of Janet Guthrie. You need to study more history

    Please accept my sincerest apologies, wise sage. :D

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:36

    I think Ferrari will be the only serious competition to Brawn, but they are already too far behind. Brawn have both titles won. Remember, you read it here first!

    I think Ferrari will drop back again and Red Bull will be the second team

  • me25/05/2009 at 01:36

    Please accept my sincerest apologies, wise sage. :D

    journeyer... wax on, wax off.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:36

    Watching BBC replay.

    Piquet said he'd have scored had Buemi not taken him out. Given that Bourdais and Fisi were battling for 8th, I'd agree.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:36

    journeyer... wax on, wax off.

    :D

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:37

    Please accept my sincerest apologies, wise sage. :D

    LD

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:37

    journeyer... wax on, wax off.

    HAHA!

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 01:37

    I think Ferrari will drop back again and Red Bull will be the second team

    Ferrari are just a better team, with much more experience. You just have to look at what Mclaren did with a very bad car in the first 4 races. Ferrari will do the best of the rest from now on

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:37

    Piquet said he'd have scored had Buemi not taken him out.

    But it was a law of nature, The Piquet Magnet did it

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:38

    Brawn are quite similar to williams in 92'... could be the start of a good few years, followed by a poor few

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:39

    Ferrari are just a better team, with much more experience. You just have to look at what Mclaren did with a very bad car in the first 4 races. Ferrari will do the best of the rest from now on

    But Ferrari have been making a lot more mistakes than Red Bull have. That will come back to bite them...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:39

    Brawn are quite similar to williams in 92'... could be the start of a good few years, followed by a poor few

    Williams did well from 92-97. Their poor years weren't to come for another 6 years... :D

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:39

    But Ferrari have been making a lot more mistakes than Red Bull have. That will come back to bite them...

    The slow decline back to the 80's post Brawn & Schu

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:40

    Brawn 2009 is more like Williams 1980, I think. :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:40

    The slow decline back to the 80's post Brawn & Schu

    I hope you're wrong, but I fear you're right...

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:40

    Ferrari are just a better team, with much more experience. You just have to look at what Mclaren did with a very bad car in the first 4 races. Ferrari will do the best of the rest from now on

    I think their drivers carried the car this weekend. On every other track its handling has been evil. The back end just seems to step out all over the place under load. Turn 8 at Turkey with that car will be terrifying.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:40

    Brawn 2009 is more like Williams 1980, I think. :)

    Unfortunatly my knowledge only begins in 92'

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:41

    I think their drivers carried the car this weekend. On every other track its handling has been evil. The back end just seems to step out all over the place under load. Turn 8 at Turkey with that car will be terrifying.

    Massa won't like that... Podium or DNF for him, then?

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 01:41

    Brawn 2009 is more like Williams 1980, I think. :)

    LOL. No Jones and Reutemann tho

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:41

    Unfortunatly my knowledge only begins in 92'

    Awww... try watching races from the 80s when you have time. :)

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:41

    Brawn 2009 is more like Williams 1980, I think. :)

    That may be a very good call

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:41

    I think their drivers carried the car this weekend. On every other track its handling has been evil. The back end just seems to step out all over the place under load. Turn 8 at Turkey with that car will be terrifying.

    They don't seem to have come to terms with the downforce loss of the rear wing and diffuser regs.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:41

    LOL. No Jones and Reutemann tho

    Thank goodness, too. :)

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:42

    Turn 8 at Turkey with that car will be terrifying.

    #You spin me round, round baby, right round - like a record...#

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:42

    That may be a very good call

    :D :)

  • Paul25/05/2009 at 01:42

    Thank goodness, too. :)

    yes. I meant to say no Jones and Reutemann fighting each other!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:42

    #You spin me round, round baby, right round - like a record...#

    Right round, round, round... :D I prefer the original over the Flo Rida version. :)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:42

    Going to call it a night, see you tomorrow afternoon/evening.

    Planning a nice round of golf, first time out in 3 weeks due to this and that. Let's hope we aren't too rusty and it isn't raining...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:43

    yes. I meant to say no Jones and Reutemann fighting each other!

    Yup! Thought you meant that. Too true. :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:43

    Going to call it a night, see you tomorrow afternoon/evening.

    Planning a nice round of golf, first time out in 3 weeks due to this and that. Let's hope we aren't too rusty and it isn't raining...

    Night Pat. :)

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:43

    Right round, round, round... :D I prefer the original over the Flo Rida version. :)

    Or the Sugababes

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:43

    Massa won't like that... Podium or DNF for him, then?

    I doubt the car will have the performance to get on the podium. A lot of the corners are understeer generators which is why Massa has owned the place over the last few years. I expect him to be quicker than Kimi there but I think that both of them are in for a very hard weekend,

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:44

    G'night Pat, bring your umbrella though, just in case

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:44

    Night Pat,

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:44

    LOL. No Jones and Reutemann tho

    Down to earth Button and an unhappy South American so not that different

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 01:44

    I think what F1 needs right now is a Swede with a surname of Fries. Just so that on the All-time Fantasy F1 Game, we can have the Ulitmate F1 team of "Berger and Fries" :D .

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 01:44

    Night Pat

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:44

    I doubt the car will have the performance to get on the podium. A lot of the corners are understeer generators which is why Massa has owned the place over the last few years. I expect him to be quicker than Kimi there but I think that both of them are in for a very hard weekend,

    But you know Massa will try - he's very good in Turkey, and he'll push that car over and beyond the edge.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 01:44

    G'night Pat, bring your umbrella though, just in case

    Always keep it handy!

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:45

    Good night Pat

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:45

    I think what F1 needs right now is a Swede with a surname of Fries. Just so that on the All-time Fantasy F1 Game, we can have the Ulitmate F1 team of "Berger and Fries" :D .

    5 pints of Unnamed laughter powered aircraft

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 01:46

    I think what F1 needs right now is a Swede with a surname of Fries. Just so that on the All-time Fantasy F1 Game, we can have the Ulitmate F1 team of "Berger and Fries" :D .

    :D

    Right, will focus on the Monaco replay then. Wanna hear the BBC commentary in full - feed was iffy for me last night. Later, everyone. :)

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 01:47

    Right, will focus on the Monaco replay then. Wanna hear the BBC commentary in full - feed was iffy for me last night. Later, everyone. :)

    Bye Journeyer

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:48

    See ya Journeyer

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 01:49

    Peter Winsor on SpeedTV said:As a future team principal wants Ferrari in F1. Other than that he stated that the fight between Ferrari and the FIA is the first time the two have butted heads

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 01:50

    L8R, Journeyer

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 01:57

    Yep defo. I was convinced he and Fisi had ruined their races with that strategy. {Comment #65}

    That strategy used to be popular in the low-qualifying era. With both of them qualifying in the second half of the grid and yet confident of holding back some of those behind them in the early phases of the race, stuffing their cars full of fuel made sense.

    I think we may have learned the fuel tank capacities of the STR and FIF1, though.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 01:58

    Quite like this driver analysis

    http://www.enterf1.com/f1/the-f1-pendulum-monaco-2009.asp

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 02:01

    What is the holiday for you guys tommorrow? {}

    Spring Bank Holiday. Usually shortened to "bank holiday".

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 02:03

    That's it! I've spent since 10pm trying to catch up with the F1 blogosphere and managed:

    - update the predictions competition for the forum I admin

    - get through the large amount of Twitter traffic

    - do about a third of the catching up for Sidepodcast.

    I am so glad today is a bank holiday, but I need to go to bed or I'll still be here when Mum wakes up...

  • me25/05/2009 at 02:03

    I am so glad today is a bank holiday, but I need to go to bed or I'll still be here when Mum wakes up...

    night alia.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 02:04

    Spring Bank Holiday. Usually shortened to "bank holiday".

    Nee Whitsun

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 02:06

    I am so glad today is a bank holiday, but I need to go to bed or I'll still be here when Mum wakes up...

    Good night.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 02:06

    - do about a third of the catching up for Sidepodcast.

    An increasingly difficult task :D

    Good night

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 02:19

    I shouldn't be laughing a the fact RB said "I struggled with a grainy rear"...

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 02:21

    #410 - Nick said:

    I shouldn’t be laughing a the fact RB said “I struggled with a grainy rear”…

    That was a mean trick on Jenson's part to glue 60 grade sandpaper on RB's seat.... :P

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 02:22

    That was a mean trick on Jenson's part to glue 60 grade sandpaper on RB's seat.... :P

    :D

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 02:22

    ahh half days. Always so good at the time, always regret them on pay day.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 02:24

    ahh half days. Always so good at the time, always regret them on pay day.

    Wouldn't the 2nd half be a better bet than the 1st?

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 02:24

    Wouldn't the 2nd half be a better bet than the 1st?

    I wish I could do that!

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 02:34

    Time for bed. See you all in a few hours.

    Don't forget to re-generate Amy. This place could get danegerous if the BORG get grumpy.

  • me25/05/2009 at 02:34

    Time for bed. See you all in a few hours.

    night steven.

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 02:34

    Time for bed. See you all in a few hours.

    Don't forget to re-generate Amy. This place could get danegerous if the BORG get grumpy.

    With everyone here sleeping I might do the same.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 02:35

    Im joining the sleeping club too, big plans for tomorrow...

    Night *yawn*

  • me25/05/2009 at 02:36

    night amy and nick.

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 02:38

    Looks like the party's dying around here faster than Kubica's Championship hopes. Time for me to split too.

    Night all.

  • me25/05/2009 at 02:40

    see ya jordan...

    (2008 spc-land fantasy racers champions, not to be confused with jordan willman ;))

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 02:42

    Wilman, me, not Willman. Nite.

  • me25/05/2009 at 03:09

    Wilman, me, not Willman. Nite.

    i learn. very slowly mind you, but i learn ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 06:05

    Morning all,

    No bank holiday for me as we had ours on Thursday - I also took Friday off.

    I just realised how much racing I watched last weekend - The F1, Indy 500, Nurburgring and two films about racing! Oh, and we had a meeting to plan Le Mans.

    And I haven't even watched the GP2 yet!

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 06:15

    Indy Update on the most injured driver yesterday:

    "Vitor Meira..was admitted to Methodist Hospital with fractures of the first and second lumbar, yet still has full use of his arms and legs. He is not expected to have surgery.

    I just realised how much racing I watched last weekend -

    yeah- i watched less but everything I had planned, well, never quite happened. and i blame you all. but especially Steven, and Lou's rabbit.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 06:17

    Indy Update on the most injured driver yesterday:

    "Vitor Meira..was admitted to Methodist Hospital with fractures of the first and second lumbar, yet still has full use of his arms and legs. He is not expected to have surgery.

    That's still bad though. Good to see the delay was just to make sure they extracted him properly so no further damage was done. Poor lad - he never has had any good luck :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 06:51

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75577

    Right... so for those who didn't believe me earlier in the year, sadly my WTCC prediction is starting to come true. SEAT are allowed to be too dominant with the Turbo Diesel - BMW are unhappy with that and want to pull out if things don't change (they won't go diesel). GM will probably pull out when they go bankrupt too so there won't be much of a WTCC left!

    Who needs manufacturers, eh?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 07:05

    Despite Mosley’s suggestions that the teams were coming round to the idea of a budget cap, AUTOSPORT is reporting that the teams have written a letter to the FIA demanding the 2010 regulations are scrapped. Now, either Max got the wrong end of the stick in the meeting, or he was bending the truth when he talked to the BBC, but the teams are clearly not on board yet.

    JA said that a team principal told him that they haven't made up yet with the FIA, but they're "falling in love all over again". JA's fault - he brought the metaphor up. :D

    While you may be right, this could also be part of a negotiated process. I wouldn't be surprised if Max got a heads-up about this over the weekend, and I wouldn't be surprised if Max has already given the teams a heads-up as to what his reply would be.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 07:09

    Who needs manufacturers, eh?

    WRC only has Ford and Citroen left. If either leave, they're in real trouble.

    MotoGP is in better shape in this regard. Only Kawasaki have left (and even then they still have 1 privateer bike), and they still have Yamaha (4 bikes) Honda (4 bikes), Ducati (5 bikes), and Suzuki (2 bikes).

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 07:22

    WRC only has Ford and Citroen left. If either leave, they're in real trouble.

    WRC is rubbish this year because of that. The IRC is much more interesting!

    MotoGP is in better shape in this regard. Only Kawasaki have left (and even then they still have 1 privateer bike), and they still have Yamaha (4 bikes) Honda (4 bikes), Ducati (5 bikes), and Suzuki (2 bikes).

    True, and the racing has been good. But in truth, you are nowhere if you are not on a factory bike...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 07:36

    WRC is rubbish this year because of that. The IRC is much more interesting!

    But we don't see the IRC here. And IRC has no Sebastien Loeb. :D

    True, and the racing has been good. But in truth, you are nowhere if you are not on a factory bike…

    Colin Edwards and Marco Melandri would beg to disagree with you. As would Mika Kallio to a lesser extent. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 07:38

    But we don't see the IRC here. And IRC has no Sebastien Loeb. :D

    Yeah it's hard to see (but there are ways...) and no Loeb winning all the time is a plus point!

    Colin Edwards and Marco Melandri would beg to disagree with you. As would Mika Kallio to a lesser extent. :D

    But none of those have won lately have they?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 07:51

    Yeah it’s hard to see (but there are ways…) and no Loeb winning all the time is a plus point!

    Loeb lost last weekend. ;)

    But none of those have won lately have they?

    Melandri was 2nd at Le Mans. And it's not the bike, it's the rider. The 2nd Yamaha, 2nd Ducati, or 2nd Honda all haven't won either.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 07:59

    Loeb lost last weekend. ;)

    First time in a bajillion years though!

    Melandri was 2nd at Le Mans. And it's not the bike, it's the rider. The 2nd Yamaha, 2nd Ducati, or 2nd Honda all haven't won either.

    Disagree. Lorenzo has won on the second Yamaha and only Nicky Hayden could be blamed on ther rider (the Kimi of MotoGP?). It is very rare these days for a non-factory bike to get anywhere near a win because the bikes are too high tech.

    Le Mans was a crazy race because it was wet/dry. Melandri did race well but that was a lot like Barrichello in Britain last year - driver in a bad car gets presented with a good opportunity and uses skill to take advantage of it.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 08:05

    First time in a bajillion years though!

    :D

    Disagree. Lorenzo has won on the second Yamaha and only Nicky Hayden could be blamed on ther rider (the Kimi of MotoGP?). It is very rare these days for a non-factory bike to get anywhere near a win because the bikes are too high tech.

    Oh yeah, forgot about Lorenzo there. :D But Hayden's woes isn't down to the rider - just ask Gibernau, Caperossi, or even Melandri.

    Speaking of which,

    Le Mans was a crazy race because it was wet/dry. Melandri did race well but that was a lot like Barrichello in Britain last year - driver in a bad car gets presented with a good opportunity and uses skill to take advantage of it.

    He was 6th in a dry Motegi prior to Le Mans - something that he shouldn't have had any business doing, especially with his bike that's not getting too much development.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 08:06

    That's still bad though. Good to see the delay was just to make sure they extracted him properly so no further damage was done. Poor lad - he never has had any good luck :(

    Yeah I was hoping that was the reason - minimise movement until you can stick on all the safety stuff. I wonder how easy it was to extract him out - I guess they've tested all that stuff, and I hope it all worked the way it was supposed to. A sad simple truth - injuries and death happen in motorsport and we have to do what we can to prevent them - even if that takes the form of "run off areas" where drivers can resume after a small delay. I hate the run offs - but I understand why they are there for safety (and marketing reasons probably too)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 08:07

    Oh yeah, forgot about Lorenzo there. :D But Hayden's woes isn't down to the rider - just ask Gibernau, Caperossi, or even Melandri.

    But Hayden post-championship was dreadful at Honda too? You are right about Ducati though - it seems they make a great bike for Stoner who rides the bike very differently from everyone else!

    He was 6th in a dry Motegi prior to Le Mans - something that he shouldn't have had any business doing, especially with his bike that's not getting too much development.

    6th is not really a result from an ex-factory bike.

  • F1Wolf25/05/2009 at 08:08

    anyone knows what happened to the talk with mr Saward this weekend ?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 08:08

    anyone knows what happened to the talk with mr Saward this weekend ?

    Apologeticos ... problemos technicos!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 08:15

    You are right about Ducati though - it seems they make a great bike for Stoner who rides the bike very differently from everyone else!

    That may explain why Stoner never won a title in 125 or 250, yet is doing oh-so-well here in MotoGP - the bike is custom-made for him, and it has LOTS of power.

    Apologeticos … problemos technicos!

    ?Que habla Espanol, Senor Gavin?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 08:16

    That may explain why Stoner never won a title in 125 or 250, yet is doing oh-so-well here in MotoGP - the bike is custom-made for him, and it has LOTS of power.

    Okay, maybe not custom-made, but it suits him a lot more than any of his previous bikes.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 08:18

    6th is not really a result from an ex-factory bike.

    but kawasaki were never this good, and this bike isn't getting any development. surely that deserves some credit?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 08:18

    That may explain why Stoner never won a title in 125 or 250, yet is doing oh-so-well here in MotoGP - the bike is custom-made for him, and it has LOTS of power.

    In theory that should suit Hayden as he is more used to powerful bikes (unlike the Euros who grew up on 125's and 250's). Apparently that's why he is struggling...

    Apologeticos … problemos technicos!

    ?Que habla Espanol, Senor Gavin?

    No unfortunately - I was thinking of a sketch off a programme called 'The Fast Show' where they spoof European TV :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 08:20

    6th is not really a result from an ex-factory bike.

    but kawasaki were never this good, and this bike isn't getting any development. surely that deserves some credit?

    Yep. Melandri rode brilliantly in awful conditions. It's got to be him that's doing it, surely? There's no way the bike has got better without development, right?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 08:26

    Yeah I was hoping that was the reason - minimise movement until you can stick on all the safety stuff. I wonder how easy it was to extract him out - I guess they've tested all that stuff, and I hope it all worked the way it was supposed to.

    If it's like the F1 cockpit then all they have to do is undo some clips and lift him out with the seat attached (apparently)...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 08:28

    Yep. Melandri rode brilliantly in awful conditions. It’s got to be him that’s doing it, surely? There’s no way the bike has got better without development, right?

    Exactly what I mean - just because you're NOT on a factory bike doesn't automatically mean you're nowhere.

    No unfortunately - I was thinking of a sketch off a programme called ‘The Fast Show’ where they spoof European TV

    You MUST show me a video of this. :D I'll try to look for some too. :D

  • F1Wolf25/05/2009 at 08:29

    extremely sleepy me here, it is very hard to watch Indy500 live in Asia... I did ny best, 120 laps, but 3:30am I gave up

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 08:30

    extremely sleepy me here, it is very hard to watch Indy500 live in Asia... I did ny best, 120 laps, but 3:30am I gave up

    Only the end is worth watching anyway :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 08:31

    Yep. Melandri rode brilliantly in awful conditions. It’s got to be him that’s doing it, surely? There’s no way the bike has got better without development, right?

    Exactly what I mean - just because you're NOT on a factory bike doesn't automatically mean you're nowhere.

    Touché - but it is still very difficult and very rare to see a customer bike on the podium.

    You MUST show me a video of this. :D I'll try to look for some too. :D

    I'll look later for you - but try searching for "The Fast Show Channel 9"

  • F1Wolf25/05/2009 at 08:32

    Only the end is worth watching anyway

    that was probably 5am :-) no way I could get that far :-)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 08:41

    extremely sleepy me here, it is very hard to watch Indy500 live in Asia… I did ny best, 120 laps, but 3:30am I gave up

    I barely saw any of it. :( Oh well.

    I’ll look later for you - but try searching for “The Fast Show Channel 9?

    Found it. Hilarious! :D

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 08:46

    moooorning all, am listening to the parade lap then debrief! woot.

    how are we all?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 08:48

    Morning all too! :)

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 08:57

    I like this Force India tweet:

    on our way home from Monaco today. trucks travel directly from Monaco to turkey, the furthest point in Europe they will go this year

    They must be taking lessons on Mr C about capital letters.

    Oh, and hi as well.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 08:58

    Morning all, Hope you enjoyd your lie-in you lucky b'stards!

  • Jackie25/05/2009 at 08:59

    Good Morning all.

    Is Kathi about? .. I'm feeling bad that you may think I'm having a go about Fantasy Racers. Honestly I'm not unhappy and I think you should keep your team, go girls :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 09:03

    on our way home from Monaco today. trucks travel directly from Monaco to turkey, the furthest point in Europe they will go this year

    what? no more ships to take the trucks there?

    Morning all, Hope you enjoyd your lie-in you lucky b’stards!

    I don't have a lie-in... :(

    Is Kathi about? .. I’m feeling bad that you may think I’m having a go about Fantasy Racers. Honestly I’m not unhappy and I think you should keep your team, go girls

    Huh? Not sure what you're talking about, Jackie.

  • Jackie25/05/2009 at 09:06

    Huh? Not sure what you're talking about, Jackie.

    Oh I made a comment on PF about being well and truly trounced this week in Fantasy Racers. I suggested that 9 teams may be a bit much of an advantage and the rules may need another tweek

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:07

    Huh? Not sure what you're talking about, Jackie.

    Oh I made a comment on PF about being well and truly trounced this week in Fantasy Racers. I suggested that 9 teams may be a bit much of an advantage and the rules may need another tweek

    Ironically Kathi has become the Schumacher of FR ... miles ahead of all of us and needing a tweak in the rules to give us any chance of catching up!

  • Jackie25/05/2009 at 09:08

    Ironically Kathi has become the Schumacher of FR ... miles ahead of all of us and needing a tweak in the rules to give us any chance of catching up!

  • Jackie25/05/2009 at 09:09

    Ironically Kathi has become the Schumacher of FR ... miles ahead of all of us and needing a tweak in the rules to give us any chance of catching up!

    So she feels bad about being in the lead which is a shame as it's spoiling her enjoyment as well

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 09:09

    I've just seen another ridiculous TV show advertised: "I'm Running Sainsbury's"

    (Sainsbury's is a supermarket chain in the UK for those outside the country)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:10

    Ironically Kathi has become the Schumacher of FR ... miles ahead of all of us and needing a tweak in the rules to give us any chance of catching up!

    So she feels bad about being in the lead which is a shame as it's spoiling her enjoyment as well

    Well that's a shame, but seeing as she is clearly putting more effort into it than us, she deserves to be winning!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 09:10

    Aww, not another big manufacturer...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75577

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 09:12

    Aww, not another big manufacturer...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75577

    Listen to this weeks midweek motorsport podcast (series 4 ep 19) , it has a really good conversation about WTCC!!!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:12

    Aww, not another big manufacturer...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75577

    Right... so for those who didn't believe me earlier in the year, sadly my WTCC prediction is starting to come true. SEAT are allowed to be too dominant with the Turbo Diesel - BMW are unhappy with that and want to pull out if things don't change (they won't go diesel). GM will probably pull out when they go bankrupt too so there won't be much of a WTCC left!

    Who needs manufacturers, eh?

  • Jackie25/05/2009 at 09:13

    Well that's a shame, but seeing as she is clearly putting more effort into it than us, she deserves to be winning!

    That's what I tried to say but perhaps not so eloquently

  • Kathi25/05/2009 at 09:18

    Well that's a shame, but seeing as she is clearly putting more effort into it than us, she deserves to be winning!

    That's what I tried to say but perhaps not so eloquently

    I don't like winning just because the rest couldn't be bothered. I'm not giving up FR completely I have 4 other teams which have far less cash available since I started them after Melbourne and didn't treat them very well. This way I can enjoy it again and you can try to beat demigods and Al and sandbaggers.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:21

    Well that's a shame, but seeing as she is clearly putting more effort into it than us, she deserves to be winning!

    That's what I tried to say but perhaps not so eloquently

    I don't like winning just because the rest couldn't be bothered. I'm not giving up FR completely I have 4 other teams which have far less cash available since I started them after Melbourne and didn't treat them very well. This way I can enjoy it again and you can try to beat demigods and Al and sandbaggers.

    It's not that we can't be bothered - we just don't have the same 'passion' for it as you ;)

    Don't stop what you are doing Kathi - if you did and then lost because of it then it wouldn't be proper - that's not the way to win.

    Besides, it's all supposed to be fun and I certainly am enjoying it so far - and I know a lot of others are too.

  • Jackie25/05/2009 at 09:24

    I don't like winning just because the rest couldn't be bothered. I'm not giving up FR completely I have 4 other teams which have far less cash available since I started them after Melbourne and didn't treat them very well. This way I can enjoy it again and you can try to beat demigods and Al and sandbaggers.

    Please don't give up couchpotato.

    I feel I want to crawl into a hole and hide for the next couple of weeks; thats the thing about the internet when you can't see the person you are speaking to comments can be taken out of context .. maybe I need a break. .. a long one.

  • Kathi25/05/2009 at 09:25

    It's not that we can't be bothered - we just don't have the same 'passion' for it as you ;)

    Says the man with the statistics.

    Besides, it's all supposed to be fun and I certainly am enjoying it so far - and I know a lot of others are too.

    But I'm not enjoying it. I don't want to win because I have the most money but because I made the right choices. I can do that with my other teams.

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 09:27

    Says the man with the statistics.

    Hehehe.

  • Kathi25/05/2009 at 09:27

    I feel I want to crawl into a hole and hide for the next couple of weeks; thats the thing about the internet when you can't see the person you are speaking to comments can be taken out of context .. maybe I need a break. .. a long one.

    Don't be silly. You're not the reason for this. I've sent you a message on skype

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:27

    Aww, not another big manufacturer...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75577

    So I posted my thoughts... what about you Scott?

    Personally as long as there are teams like 888 and RML there will always be some sort of Touring Car series - The BTCC this year hasn't suffered from there only being one 'manufacturer'.

    The Danish Touring Car series runs loads of good cars without manufacturer support so it could work... As long as there is good racing!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 09:30

    Aww, not another big manufacturer…

    BMW are considering their future in motorsports in general, it seems. If I were to guess, I think their quit threat in WTCC is a lot more serious, as things there aren't as organized, so it'd be harder to fix.

    That said, Dr. Mario is behind both quit threats (and the F1 one isn't even an explicit threat). I wonder what Max thinks of him... ;)

    I feel I want to crawl into a hole and hide for the next couple of weeks; thats the thing about the internet when you can’t see the person you are speaking to comments can be taken out of context .. maybe I need a break. .. a long one.

    Don't be too hard on yourself, Jackie. I know you didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. It was an honest suggestion, and nothing personal. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:30

    It's not that we can't be bothered - we just don't have the same 'passion' for it as you ;)

    Says the man with the statistics.

    LOL cheers. But the silly thing is that I haven't really made any team changes because when I look at my team, I can't see how by selling my two worst drivers that I would gain more points by buying a better one. This race was the first where 3 drivers scored less points than their equivalent cash value would have.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 09:30

    The Danish Touring Car series runs loads of good cars without manufacturer support so it could work... As long as there is good racing!

    Sure, I'm always one for good racing. It's just getting annoying that all the big manufacturers in touring cars started in the BTCC, then pulled out and then took part in the WTCC and now it looks like they're leaving. Can we just have some stability in this sport, people? Is it too much to ask for? Obviously, at the rate manufacturers are pulling out, it is.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:31

    Sure, I'm always one for good racing. It's just getting annoying that all the big manufacturers in touring cars started in the BTCC, then pulled out and then took part in the WTCC and now it looks like they're leaving. Can we just have some stability in this sport, people? Is it too much to ask for? Obviously, at the rate manufacturers are pulling out, it is.

    Ahh the Mid-90's - Ten Manufactuers! TBH, the racing was no better than now though...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 09:31

    A protest from BMW after the Marrakech round earlier this month revealed that SEAT had been granted a variable increase in its boost pressure to counter atmospheric conditions in the first three races, which the rival manufacturers had not been informed about.

    Hey - it seems BMW have the technical veto in WTCC. :D

    "We are looking at other touring car categories," he said. "If we do come to a decision where a works commitment doesn't make sense in any given series, then it could be for a period of time that we may only lend support to our customers, as opposed to competing ourselves."

    Read: DTM.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 09:33

    But I’m not enjoying it. I don’t want to win because I have the most money but because I made the right choices. I can do that with my other teams.

    TBH, I think you have the most money now because you made the right choices. That said, you're not making too many other decisions now...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:41

    "We are looking at other touring car categories," he said. "If we do come to a decision where a works commitment doesn't make sense in any given series, then it could be for a period of time that we may only lend support to our customers, as opposed to competing ourselves."

    Read: DTM.

    They didn't enter in 2000 when it restarted because the rules wouldn't go their way (That's why they built the M3 GTR). DTM is really boring ATM and needs a serious revamp - the cars are too aero and too fragile and there ain't no passing!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 09:41

    They didn't enter in 2000 when it restarted because the rules wouldn't go their way (That's why they built the M3 GTR). DTM is really boring ATM and needs a serious revamp - the cars are too aero and too fragile and there ain't no passing!

    So how would you do the DTM?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 09:44

    So how would you do the DTM?

    Hmm good question. Less Aero and V8 engines? Both Audi and Merc do them and BMW too? Or maybe take a standard 2L block and add a turbo kit. I think the WTCC and BTCC have a good base to build on - the problem (as with any split series) is the equivalency formula...

    I wouldn't dumb it down as much as the Aussies mind - that's too far!

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 09:51

    FakeHamilton makes a good point, without the gearbox change, he'd have stood a much greater chance of getting into the points,

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 09:56

    FakeHamilton makes a good point, without the gearbox change, he’d have stood a much greater chance of getting into the points

    I guess they figured it was worth the swap. They were hoping Lewis would make mincemeat of the Toyotas and BMWs, which he wasn't able to do because of horrific understeer.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 09:57

    I guess they figured it was worth the swap. They were hoping Lewis would make mincemeat of the Toyotas and BMWs, which he wasn't able to do because of horrific understeer.

    Also, when did Kubica disappear?! Only found out he retired because i just listened to hte debrief!!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 09:57

    the cars are too aero and too fragile and there ain’t no passing!

    Right now, is there ANY 4-wheel series that has lots of passing? Heck, even NASCAR has less passing now...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 09:59

    Also, when did Kubica disappear?! Only found out he retired because i just listened to hte debrief!!

    He pitted on Lap 28 - had a brakes problem. It was a merciful end for Bobby, I think - his car was nowhere near the pace at the front.

  • Kathi25/05/2009 at 10:01

    Also, when did Kubica disappear?! Only found out he retired because i just listened to hte debrief!!

    One of my biggest rivals had him in his team. He scored 32 points. Kubica was the third to retire which means he gets 3 points for position so he should have retired after lap 29. I'm not obsessed - really!

  • Kathi25/05/2009 at 10:02

    He pitted on Lap 28 - had a brakes problem. It was a merciful end for Bobby, I think - his car was nowhere near the pace at the front.

    OK. slightly off

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 10:05

    One of my biggest rivals had him in his team. He scored 32 points. Kubica was the third to retire which means he gets 3 points for position so he should have retired after lap 29. I’m not obsessed - really!

    You could still be right. Checking Wikipedia, they may have meant Bobby K completed 28 laps. So he would've pitted ON Lap 29.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 10:15

    Morning guys.

    I doubt I was the only one but I find it pretty cool Suzi perry dent me a direct message on Twitter... awesome. :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 10:19

    I doubt I was the only one but I find it pretty cool Suzi perry dent me a direct message on Twitter… awesome.

    A DM is a DM, no matter how many of them there are. :P

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 10:20

    I doubt I was the only one but I find it pretty cool Suzi perry dent me a direct message on Twitter... awesome. :)

    What did it say?

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 10:22

    What did it say?

    I just sent her one of those @ messages saying it was a nice surprise to see her on the F1 forum, and the DM just said 'thanks! xx', so that was nice of her to reply.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 10:23

    I just sent her one of those @ messages saying it was a nice surprise to see her on the F1 forum, and the DM just said 'thanks! xx', so that was nice of her to reply.

    aw thats nice

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:25

    aw thats nice

    At least she did it straight away, unlike a certain LeeMck...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:26

    I just sent her one of those @ messages saying it was a nice surprise to see her on the F1 forum, and the DM just said 'thanks! xx', so that was nice of her to reply.

    Now the next one has to say "You haven't heard of Sidepodcast by any chance, have you?" ;)

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 10:26

    Now the next one has to say "You haven't heard of Sidepodcast by any chance, have you?" ;)

    ooh! :D

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 10:27

    is it wrong that I want to download the Finnish race coverage?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:28

    is it wrong that I want to download the Finnish race coverage?

    And we thought Kathi's FR obsession was bad...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 10:28

    Morning guys.

    I doubt I was the only one but I find it pretty cool Suzi perry dent me a direct message on Twitter... awesome. :)

    That is cool and so is she :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 10:29

    is it wrong that I want to download the Finnish race coverage?

    You could have had it in Danish if you had asked earlier ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:30

    That is cool and so is she :)

    Not to mention she's pretty hot ;)

    Praise the lord for The Gadget Show! :D

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 10:30

    You could have had it in Danish if you had asked earlier ;)

    Heikki isn't from Denmark. :D

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 10:31

    Jake says cutting off the press conference annoys him as much as everyone else.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 10:31

    Has anyone seen Jakes blog for Monaco?

    again I find his entries very enjoyabe, just recapping the weekend and whatnot and talking about it. Plus he apologises for the quick ending of the F1 despite it not being his fault. His anecdote about Murray is very cute :P

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 10:31

    Aaand me and christine post it at nearly the same time..!

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 10:32

    I'm going to download the Silverstone LMS coverage to listen to (commentary for the whole race...)

    I'm THAT bored

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 10:32

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75626

    Williams submits F1 entry for 2010 - but insists it isn't breaking away from FOTA.

    Currying Favour from Max then?

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 10:32

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75626

    Williams submit entry

  • Kathi25/05/2009 at 10:32

    is it wrong that I want to download the Finnish race coverage?

    There is probably more Heikki in the BBC coverage than in the Finnish.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 10:33

    Currying Favour from Max then?

    I think we all expected it from them, they're not going to be against such caps because it keeps their team going

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 10:33

    There is probably more Heikki in the BBC coverage than in the Finnish.

    I shake my fist at Finland!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 10:33

    Williams submit entry

    Snap!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:33

    Williams submits F1 entry for 2010 - but insists it isn't breaking away from FOTA.

    1 down, 9 to go...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:34

    I shake my fist at Finland!

    I thought we'd had enough of that with Lukeh...

    *shakes fist at Lukeh for enducing fist shaking*

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 10:34

    I think I shall just have to compliment BBC's use of music for this weekend on Jake's blog. ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:35

    I think I shall just have to compliment BBC's use of music for this weekend on Jake's blog. ;)

    Don't include the fact that you exploded twice as a result ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 10:35

    I think I shall just have to compliment BBC's use of music for this weekend on Jake's blog. ;)

    hehe we thought of you!

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 10:38

    I think I shall just have to compliment BBC's use of music for this weekend on Jake's blog. ;)

    you shall need to track down this Sunil person and hug them.

  • toxicfusion25/05/2009 at 10:38

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75626

    Williams submits F1 entry for 2010 - but insists it isn’t breaking away from FOTA.

    Currying Favour from Max then?

    Not suprising, but maybe Williams know something we don't.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:47

    Hehe, just looking on Autosport, it's thunderstorming in Monaco today. And to think, yesterday's weather was perfect!

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 10:48

    oh my Nadal's Fren Open outfit is horrible

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 10:48

    Hehe, just looking on Autosport, it's thunderstorming in Monaco today. And to think, yesterday's weather was perfect!

    Damn, that would have made for a wild race :(

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 10:49

    I think I shall just have to compliment BBC's use of music for this weekend on Jake's blog. ;)

    lukeh - I'm loving the green day album :) need a bit of punk in my life.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:49

    lukeh - I'm loving the green day album :) need a bit of punk in my life.

    What's the new Green Day album called?

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 10:49

    Williams submits F1 entry for 2010 - but insists it isn't breaking away from FOTA.

    1 down, 9 to go...

    hehe :) i can't wait to see the press releases for the backdowns...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 10:50

    What's the new Green Day album called?

    Never mind, found it on Spotify, :)

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 10:50

    What's the new Green Day album called?

    21st century breakdown.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 11:04

    lukeh - I'm loving the green day album :) need a bit of punk in my life.

    yay! :)

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 11:10

    yay! :)

    I thought you'd approve. took me a few days to get around to it. Now if only my ipod was still working, I'd load it up with green day for the month...but instead i'll have to make a CD of mp3s for my portable Cd player....aah technology - at least it plays mp3 so I can have a whole 700 Mb. do i live on the edge or what?

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 11:15

    here is Peter Windsor's interview with Rubens

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/rubens-wmv

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 11:36

    here is Peter Windsor's interview with Rubens

    Thanks :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 11:45

    1 down, 9 to go…

    This really makes me think that FOTA's letter to Max may just be a PR ploy, but the deal is already more or less done behind closed doors.

    But if that isn't the case, I'm disappointed Williams decided to file their entry now. Why break FOTA's unity? At the very least, they could've submitted on Friday. Assuming that there is no deal of any sort yet, this weakens FOTA's hand against Max.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 11:50

    Why break FOTA’s unity?

    Rather than break, 'endanger' would be a better word.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 11:52

    do i live on the edge or what?

    partying like it's 1999, scott? ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 11:54

    Why break FOTA’s unity?

    Rather than break, 'endanger' would be a better word.

    Hmm not sure - it was proposed that they wouldn't risk leaving F1 because they are one of the few teams that exists solely to race in F1.

    It is odd, but if you look at all the press about this issue, Williams have never been a strong advocate of FOTA. Perhaps Bernie has given them a big payout?

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 12:05

    oooh.. windows 7 actually seems usable...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:05

    oooh.. windows 7 actually seems usable...

    Wow... you're a brave man!

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 12:06

    oooh.. windows 7 actually seems usable...

    Wow... you're a brave man!

    It's very good actually. Found it at times to be faster than XP and 2000.

    Afternoon everyone btw.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:07

    oooh.. windows 7 actually seems usable...

    Wow... you're a brave man!

    It's very good actually. Found it at times to be faster than XP and 2000.

    Afternoon everyone btw.

    Cool. Might upgrade when the time comes...

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 12:08

    It's very good actually. Found it at times to be faster than XP and 2000.

    Yep yep yep agreed. everything actually works a lot faster than Vista, and it doesn't seem to want to do anything ridiculous yet (although I did have to turn off that god awful UAC again)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:09

    It's very good actually. Found it at times to be faster than XP and 2000.

    Yep yep yep agreed. everything actually works a lot faster than Vista, and it doesn't seem to want to do anything ridiculous yet (although I did have to turn off that god awful UAC again)

    Games? Programs? Drivers? How does it go?

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 12:10

    Cool. Might upgrade when the time comes...

    I'm going to be dual booting it for a while on my main machine *will have to install a new HDD for it* then going over to it entirely - everywhere in the flat.

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 12:11

    Just testing. Nothing to see here.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:11

    Just testing. Nothing to see here.

    You're not here?

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 12:11

    Games? Programs? Drivers? How does it go?

    Didn't have to install any drivers for my laptop - picked everything up correctly.

    Games - around the same speed as XP

    Programs - if it works in XP or Vista it should work in Win7

    If you go for the higher level ones - you even get a copy of Virtual PC with Windows XP configured with it. So if there is anything that misbehaves then you can run it through emulation. I wouldn't bother though.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:12

    Games? Programs? Drivers? How does it go?

    Didn't have to install any drivers for my laptop - picked everything up correctly.

    Games - around the same speed as XP

    Programs - if it works in XP or Vista it should work in Win7

    If you go for the higher level ones - you even get a copy of Virtual PC with Windows XP configured with it. So if there is anything that misbehaves then you can run it through emulation. I wouldn't bother though.

    What about... Grand Prix Legends? :D

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 12:13

    You're not here?

    No, I am here. But not interesting :)

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 12:13

    What about... Grand Prix Legends? :D

    Doesn't run on 64bit OS's - Which is what I run on my laptop.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:16

    What about... Grand Prix Legends? :D

    Doesn't run on 64bit OS's - Which is what I run on my laptop.

    Sorry does that mean Vista as well? Oh dear - I'm sure they'll find a way to patch it.

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 12:20

    Sorry does that mean Vista as well? Oh dear - I'm sure they'll find a way to patch it.

    Doesn't run on XP64, Vista x64 or Win7 x64

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:21

    Sorry does that mean Vista as well? Oh dear - I'm sure they'll find a way to patch it.

    Doesn't run on XP64, Vista x64 or Win7 x64

    What does that mean in English? I have it running on XP pro...?

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 12:21

    Woah.

    Paint has had a major upgrade.

  • me25/05/2009 at 12:23

    Paint has had a major upgrade.

    :)

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 12:24

    What does that mean in English? I have it running on XP pro...?

    XP Pro is 32bit.

    XP 64 is 64 bit.

    Different OS's - if you run 32bit you are limited to 4gb of ram in total - including page file and graphics memory.

    64bit is limited to 8tb of ram iirc.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:25

    What does that mean in English? I have it running on XP pro...?

    XP Pro is 32bit.

    XP 64 is 64 bit.

    Different OS's - if you run 32bit you are limited to 4gb of ram in total - including page file and graphics memory.

    64bit is limited to 8tb of ram iirc.

    So when we get Windows 7 it will be 64 bit? Also, will the XP emulator be 64 bit as well?

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 12:26

    So when we get Windows 7 it will be 64 bit? Also, will the XP emulator be 64 bit as well?

    There will be 2 versions

    32bit with the 4gb limit and 64 bit with the 8tb limit.

    As for the emulated version of Xp - I'd assume this to be 32bit for maximum compatibility.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 12:27

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/paint-png

    Wayyyyy too many options on paint for my mind to comprehend

    Although it finally knows what a png file is which pleases me...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:28

    So when we get Windows 7 it will be 64 bit? Also, will the XP emulator be 64 bit as well?

    There will be 2 versions

    32bit with the 4gb limit and 64 bit with the 8tb limit.

    As for the emulated version of Xp - I'd assume this to be 32bit for maximum compatibility.

    Right ... so there is hope then ;)

    I need a new Gaming PC as my rig broke twice on saturday. I don't know whether to just get one now and XP it or try and hold out for a Win7 Machine...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 12:32

    I need a new Gaming PC as my rig broke twice on saturday. I don't know whether to just get one now and XP it or try and hold out for a Win7 Machine...

    Go XP. It's tried and tested and any errors should be easily fixable. Win7's really unknown territory.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:33

    I need a new Gaming PC as my rig broke twice on saturday. I don’t know whether to just get one now and XP it or try and hold out for a Win7 Machine…

    I'm holding out for a Windows 7 - better long-term option.

    Paint has the Office Ribbon now?!?

  • Kathi25/05/2009 at 12:33

    Has anybody heard anything from Ollie?

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 12:34

    Go XP. It's tried and tested and any errors should be easily fixable. Win7's really unknown territory.

    It's still basically a beta so it's definitely best to stick with XP and Vista (but Vista only is you REALLY can't get XP, which is far better)

    However, concerning Windows 7 so far so good. No drivers annoyances, faster and more efficient than Vista, and it seems to do the job. Which is very good for the current state thinking back to how Vista was when it was a release candidate...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:34

    Go XP. It’s tried and tested and any errors should be easily fixable. Win7’s really unknown territory.

    7 is basically a more stable Vista. Since most future games will be developed for 7 anyway, I'd go for 7 - it'll save you money.

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 12:34

    Right ... so there is hope then ;)

    Yup.

    I need a new Gaming PC as my rig broke twice on saturday. I don't know whether to just get one now and XP it or try and hold out for a Win7 Machine...

    If you wait you will get a faster machine for the money - but thats always true. Get a spec you like in your mind - then hunt around for the best price for that spec. If it's acceptable - buy it. If not wait a month and do the same thing again.

    I build all my own personal rigs rather than buy off the shelf anyway. That way I can actually get what I want. Only off the shelf machines I have are servers - and then they are normally upgraded significantly.

    My Media server started out in live as a £99 dell machine. :D It's now got 8tb of HDD space and lives in a 8U server enclosure rather than a desktop box.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:35

    Has anybody heard anything from Ollie?

    VERY good question. He's been missing for a week, and BlogF1 has no updates whatsoever. :(

  • me25/05/2009 at 12:37

    Has anybody heard anything from Ollie?

    VERY good question. He's been missing for a week, and BlogF1 has no updates whatsoever. :(

    he left a comment yesterday saying he went surfing, i think.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:37

    I build all my own personal rigs rather than buy off the shelf anyway. That way I can actually get what I want. Only off the shelf machines I have are servers - and then they are normally upgraded significantly.

    The Tech Guru has spoken. :D

    But he really is right. ;)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:38

    he left a comment yesterday saying he went surfing, i think.

    he left the comment here? cool. :D i guess he needs to get away from F1 for a while?

  • me25/05/2009 at 12:39

    he left the comment here? cool. :D i guess he needs to get away from F1 for a while?

    on his own blog:

    "I had a looong week at work that ultimately resulted in something not so good (don’t worry, all is fine, but it’s still… annoying, shall we say), so I’ve scarpered off to relax on a board in an unspecified ocean."

  • Kathi25/05/2009 at 12:39

    he left a comment yesterday saying he went surfing, i think.

    ah OK, was worried.

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 12:39

    I have just learnt that Jenson has narrow hips. Good times.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:40

    If you wait you will get a faster machine for the money - but thats always true. Get a spec you like in your mind - then hunt around for the best price for that spec. If it's acceptable - buy it. If not wait a month and do the same thing again.

    Thanks ... good advice. I have a few websites with one of those choose your own internals which is the next best thing to building it yourself - something I wish I could do :(

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 12:40

    I have just learnt that Jenson has narrow hips. Good times.

    I've also learned that DC apparently wants 50 million euros for a hotel he owns 70% stake in in Monaco.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:42

    Go XP. It’s tried and tested and any errors should be easily fixable. Win7’s really unknown territory.

    7 is basically a more stable Vista. Since most future games will be developed for 7 anyway, I'd go for 7 - it'll save you money.

    So both are good options then. Seeing as I have an XP disc I might start with XP and then upgrade when 7 becomes more stable...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 12:44

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/williams-puts-in-entry/

    Joe's short comment on Williams' entry into 2010...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:44

    I have just learnt that Jenson has narrow hips. Good times.

    Wha?

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 12:46

    Wha?

    i'm watching the documentary they made on our commentator driving the Honda last year. They did his seat fitting and they thought he was like Jenson so tried his seat first, but he couldn't get his hips in. Turns out Jensons hips are very narrow so they went with Rubens' seat instead. Jenson just popped up to say 'hes not a normal commentator'. He's right about that, Cameron is far more annoying.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:47

    This will be a tricky balancing act.

    If anyone can pull it off, it'll be Sir Frank himself. Even Max and Bernie have the utmost respect for him, so I think most people will be more forgiving on them than if it were another team.

    That said, I still think they should've been more helpful to FOTA by at least waiting until Friday.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:49

    He’s right about that, Cameron is far more annoying.

    I don't think that's what Jenson meant. ;)

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 12:50

    I don't think that's what Jenson meant. ;)

    Jenson is laughing at him. I like him more now.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:53

    Jenson is laughing at him. I like him more now.

    Didn't you like him before?

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 12:54

    Didn't you like him before?

    No, I did. But theres always room for improvement. I'd even manage to like Heikki more if he laughed at our commentators:D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 12:55

    Thinking back to when Jenson shouted "Monaco baby, yeah!" over the radio yesterday - it's not the first time he's said something like that. Imola 2002 he came 5th for Renault and the radio went:

    Flavio: "Well done Jenson, well done"

    Jenson: "Cheers boys, great job. Yeah baby!"

    He also did that for a mic test in 2000 when he was at Williams. He was making an appearance somewhere and to test the mic he shouted "Yeah baby!"

    Wait...Jenson's the F1 equivalent of Austin Powers! Now where's Lukeh with that Photoshop of his... ;)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 12:59

    No, I did. But theres always room for improvement. I’d even manage to like Heikki more if he laughed at our commentators :D

    Wait…Jenson’s the F1 equivalent of Austin Powers! Now where’s Lukeh with that Photoshop of his…

    Hahaha! I like this new all-conquering Jenson (compared to the Jenson we had in 2000-2001). Mature yet laid-back. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 13:02

    Hahaha! I like this new all-conquering Jenson (compared to the Jenson we had in 2000-2001). Mature yet laid-back. :D

    Yeah so do I - I know this season may be considered boring but I am enjoying all of it. I didn't even care for Jenson before the season started but now... I think he's brilliant and all of this is well deserved...

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 13:04

    Wait...Jenson's the F1 equivalent of Austin Powers! Now where's Lukeh with that Photoshop of his... ;)

    Lou is gonna hate the picture I've used for this... I blame you Scott! :P

    Nearly done ;)

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 13:07

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/yeahbaby-jpg

    Hehehe.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 13:07

    Monaby... oh dear. Near to correct that...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 13:07

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/yeahbaby-jpg

    Hehehe.

    Sweet lord that is funny!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 13:08
  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 13:10

    Thats just a little bit freaky

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 13:11

    Toyota deny they plan to leave in 2010.

    Toyota's struggles in Monaco, allied to the battle over 2010 cost cutting regulations, prompted rumours over the weekend that the Japanese manufacturer would be out of F1 next year – irrespective of it a deal was done.

    Howett dismissed such suggestions, however, claiming that Toyota was keen to find a deal that would keep it in the sport for the long term.

    "I believe it is spin," he said about the speculation. "It has been put there deliberately to create some more tension in the situation. I think that is going now wider than Toyota, onto one or more manufacturer teams. I don't know the source, but I can only say in our case that there is a clear wish to enter next year's championship.

    I suspect that HE has a clear wish to stay in F1 for 2010. But does Tokyo have the same wish to stay?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 13:11

    BTW, that's from Autosport.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75624

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 13:13

    Have put the correct spelling of monaco on drop.io now, not sure how on earth that got past me :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 13:54

    Have put the correct spelling of monaco on drop.io now, not sure how on earth that got past me :D

    Don't know why, but I think Jenson would be a really good host for the Sunday Night Project on Channel 4 :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 13:57

    I'm sorry, but this penalty is somewhat ridiculous.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75578

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 13:58

    You know what Lukeh, you should put these Photoshopped pics up on your blog. ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 14:01

    I'm sorry, but this penalty is somewhat ridiculous.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75578

    2008 F1 stewards moved to WRC? That's just to make sure the championship stays close (as he's the only one worthy of winning it).

    Rallying has become a sad joke :(

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 14:02

    Rallying has become a sad joke :(

    I wish it could go back to its glory days i.e. Group A and that. :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 14:03

    Rallying has become a sad joke :(

    I wish it could go back to its glory days i.e. Group A and that. :(

    The IRC is close to how it was (but non-turbo). Time for me to dig out that DVD of 1970's called something like "The Golden Era of Rallying" ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 14:04

    The IRC is close to how it was (but non-turbo). Time for me to dig out that DVD of 1970's called something like "The Golden Era of Rallying" ;)

    While you do that, I'll have a search for my "Too Fast to Race" DVDs. Ah Group B, now they were proper rally cars. Mad, but iconic nonetheless. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 14:05

    While you do that, I'll have a search for my "Too Fast to Race" DVDs. Ah Group B, now they were proper rally cars. Mad, but iconic nonetheless. :D

    Yay! Then we can make a toast to proper rally cars!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 14:08

    Yay! Then we can make a toast to proper rally cars!

    Found them! Too Fast to Race and Still Too Fast to Race :D

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 14:11

    yeah- i watched less but everything I had planned, well, never quite happened. and i blame you all. but especially Steven, and Lou’s rabbit. {Comment #426}

    Most of what I'd planned didn't happen either... ..but I can blame the worst-designed (and delapidated) tent ever for that!

  • lou25/05/2009 at 14:17

    hey all. Lukeh what have you done to Jenson! :P although it's kinda funny...

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 14:18

    I am glad Legard and Brundle don't spend 15 minutes talking about drivers pregnant wives, and how they must cope watching the race, and how it affects the drivers to think of their wives, and whether the drivers would like the babies to be born in the cities where they win, and what they might call their children.

    This is happening in the tennis. They won't stop talking about it!

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 14:19

    hey all. Lukeh what have you done to Jenson! :P although it's kinda funny...

    heya lou

    scott put me up to it! *runs*

    :P

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 14:19

    I like this Force India tweet:

    on our way home from Monaco today. trucks travel directly from Monaco to turkey, the furthest point in Europe they will go this year

    They must be taking lessons on Mr C about capital letters. {Comment #455}

    Well... ...who needs capital letters when your team has just scored its best individual race result since Melbourne on the back of its best individual qualifying result since Monza last year?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 14:21

    i wish it wasn't so sunny and lovely outside... it would make revision much easier...

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 14:22

    Morning all...

    Im puzzled by what sort of hotel puts dried spaghetti in the mini-bar?

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 14:25

    Off-topic: apparently it's both Towel Day (to celebrate Douglas Adams) and Star Wars Day (to celebrate ...erm... Star Wars).

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 14:26

    Off-topic: apparently it's both Towel Day (to celebrate Douglas Adams) and Star Wars Day (to celebrate ...erm... Star Wars).

    Isn't Star Wars day May the 4th?

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 14:26

    Im puzzled by what sort of hotel puts dried spaghetti in the mini-bar? {Comment #614}

    :D One that thinks putting drinks in there is old hat?

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 14:26

    Off-topic: apparently it's both Towel Day (to celebrate Douglas Adams) and Star Wars Day (to celebrate ...erm... Star Wars).

    :o

    it is towel day! awesome.

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 14:28

    Isn’t Star Wars day May the 4th? {Comment #616}

    Someone forgot to tell Los Angeles City Council. This is supposed to coincide with the first screening of the original Star Wars Episode IV.

    May 4th is also a Star Wars day.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 14:28

    :D One that thinks putting drinks in there is old hat?

    Bizarrely the only way to cook it appears to be putting it in a kettle!

  • Alianora La Canta25/05/2009 at 14:33

    FakeHamilton makes a good point, without the gearbox change, he’d have stood a much greater chance of getting into the points, {Comment #485}

    He would also have stood a better chance of getting into the points if he'd stuffed the thing with fuel like Bourdais and Fisichella. Though the gearbox change didn't help either.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 14:37

    While you do that, I'll have a search for my "Too Fast to Race" DVDs. Ah Group B, now they were proper rally cars. Mad, but iconic nonetheless. :D

    Ah yes, Group B, where Jean Todt first came to prominence. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 14:38

    Ah yes, Group B, where Jean Todt first came to prominence. :D

    Funnily enough, I'm watching the Peugeot part of the TFTR DVD :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 14:41

    Right, getting ready for Try #2 to watch the 600 in 80-ish minutes.

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 14:42

    finding a tennis stream is harder than finding an F1 stream, because even if you find a French Open one, with 21 games on at the same time its not guaranteed to be the one you want :(

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 14:43

    finding a tennis stream is harder than finding an F1 stream, because even if you find a French Open one, with 21 games on at the same time its not guaranteed to be the one you want :(

    good point, Amy. :(

  • Amy25/05/2009 at 14:44

    good point, Amy. :(

    the one I was watching got pulled and the only replacement I've found is about 20 minutes delayed. I might just go to bed, Roger would have to be blindfolded to lose this one anyway :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 14:46

    the one I was watching got pulled and the only replacement I've found is about 20 minutes delayed. I might just go to bed, Roger would have to be blindfolded to lose this one anyway :D

    and he's up 2-0. time to regenerate. ;)

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 14:51

    Live commenting from the garden.

    Any musical suggestions. I'm looking for something nice and sunshiny.

    I guess this is the musical equivelent of the cocktail thing.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 14:52

    Any musical suggestions. I'm looking for something nice and sunshiny.

    Garden... Kinda reminds me of "Seven Days in Sunny June", by Jamiroquai. Even if it isn't quite June yet. :D

  • me25/05/2009 at 14:54

    Any musical suggestions. I'm looking for something nice and sunshiny.

    savage garden?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 14:55

    savage garden?

    garden. hehehe. :D but he wants an upbeat song by them. hmmm...

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 14:55

    Can hear an ice cream truck in the distance. It's playing popeye the sailor man instead of greensleves.

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 14:56

    savage garden?

    I don't think it's too savage. Unkempt garden is more like it ;)

  • lou25/05/2009 at 14:57

    Any musical suggestions. I'm looking for something nice and sunshiny.

    sigur ros are always lovely to listen to :)

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 14:59

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-79

  • me25/05/2009 at 15:01

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-79

    i was going to suggest bruce springsteen and secret garden.

    it's not so secret no more though :(

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 15:04

    i was going to suggest bruce springsteen and secret garden.

    What album is that off? I might have it.

  • me25/05/2009 at 15:06

    What album is that off? I might have it.

    greatest hits.

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 15:18

    greatest hits.

    Seems to be not yet ripped. So I think I'm going to have to go sigor Ross. I don't seem to have that Jameriquoi track either.

    I had been thinking that I would be able to buy on iTunes but it seems you can't while remoting to the apple tv

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 15:24

    Right, getting ready for Try #2 to watch the 600 in 80-ish minutes.

    I hope you weren't one of those asking why we were watching the Indy 500vif you're watching NASCRAP...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 15:25

    I hope you weren't one of those asking why we were watching the Indy 500 if you're watching NASCRAP...

    I wanted to watch both! Fell asleep just after the 500 started, though...

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 15:26

    Any musical suggestions. I'm looking for something nice and sunshiny.

    Never go wrong with a bit of Spinal Tap. nice? sunshiny? no, but a good laugh in the afternoon. always nice to see Principal Skinner with a moustache....

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 15:26

    Any musical suggestions. I'm looking for something nice and sunshiny.

    How about '5 years time' by noah and the whale?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:29

    Any musical suggestions. I'm looking for something nice and sunshiny.

    Might I suggest some Lighthouse Family? :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 15:29

    Might I suggest some Lighthouse Family? :)

    Agreed. :D

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 15:29

    Never go wrong with a bit of Spinal Tap. nice? sunshiny? no, but a good laugh in the afternoon. always nice to see Principal Skinner with a moustache....

    I wish I didn't watch that, I feel necessary to watch the film now. Such a classic.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 15:30

    I wish I didn't watch that, I feel necessary to watch the film now. Such a classic.

    hehe...Stonehenge is great...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:31

    Agreed. :D

    Their "Greatest Hits" album, which I have, has a nice little selection of happy, relaxing tunes. Ocean Drive and Run are two I can suggest straight away :P

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 15:33

    How about '5 years time' by noah and the whale?

    Good suggestion and I have it ripped. Pleased to find I do own everything this far suggested :)

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:33

    Good suggestion and I have it ripped. Pleased to find I do own everything this far suggested :)

    You have Lighthouse Family? Good man! :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 15:33

    Their "Greatest Hits" album, which I have, has a nice little selection of happy, relaxing tunes. Ocean Drive and Run are two I can suggest straight away :P

    Hmmm... I should get around to buying that. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:35

    Hmmm... I should get around to buying that. :D

    I managed to get it in a 2 for £10 sale at HMV. One of the best music purchases I ever made, me thinks :D

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h__4_6?url=search-alias=popular&field-keywords=lighthouse+family+greatest+hits&sprefix=LIGHTH

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 15:35

    Pleased to find I do own everything this far suggested :)

    So we should switch to obscure references then?

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 15:36

    You have Lighthouse Family? Good man! :D

    Actually I hadn't got to that one yet. I'm not sure I do. I have Edison Lighthouse...

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 15:37

    So we should switch to obscure references then?

    Please do :)

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:37

    Actually I hadn't got to that one yet. I'm not sure I do. I have Edison Lighthouse...

    Aww, damn. You're missing out, bud! :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 15:37

    I wish I didn't watch that, I feel necessary to watch the film now. Such a classic.

    Am yet to see that - but I know all the jokes!

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 15:37

    You have Lighthouse Family? Good man! :D

    Actually I hadn't got to that one yet. I'm not sure I do. I have Edison Lighthouse...

    I have a couple of Edison's lights. Just joining in - not a fan of The Family. we have a lot of family business here in Italy, if you know what I mean...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 15:38

    I have a couple of Edison's lights. Just joining in - not a fan of The Family. we have a lot of family business here in Italy, if you know what I mean...

    I don't. :D

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 15:38

    Am yet to see that - but I know all the jokes!

    I have a dodgy VHS copy that I left in my "homeland. I really should get me a better copy. Without 10 minutes of silence like the video had.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 15:40

    So we should switch to obscure references then?

    Please do :)

    Artist: Poor Rich Ones. They are a Norwegian band I have an album of. Which I'll have to play today now I've mentioned it

  • Alex Andronov25/05/2009 at 15:40

    Am yet to see that - but I know all the jokes!

    You must see it. Nothing compares.

    Some Moloko has just come on.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 15:41

    I don't. :D

    Now I'm confused...

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 15:42

    Am yet to see that - but I know all the jokes!

    Ah you must see it, it's rockumentary comedy at it's best!

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 15:42

    Evenin' all.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:43

    Ah you must see it, it's rockumentary comedy at it's best!

    "...But this amp goes to 11."

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 15:43

    BTW, Mr C, will you be able to pull off an Aside today? :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:43

    Evenin' all.

    Evenin' Mr W.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:43

    BTW, Mr C, will you be able to pull off an Aside today? :D

    They still haven't found him from down the back of the sofa?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 15:43

    Evenin' Mr W.

    Hello Mr Other W.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 15:44

    Evenin' Mr W.

    Still the afternoon, right? :-/

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 15:44

    Ah nuts, ad on C4. Big Bro music and The Annoying Man. "10 days to go". I'm going to be sucked in again aren't I.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 15:44

    Still the afternoon, right? :-/

    Just about.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:44

    Ah nuts, ad on C4. Big Bro music and The Annoying Man. "10 days to go". I'm going to be sucked in again aren't I.

    Urgh...

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 15:45

    Ah nuts, ad on C4. Big Bro music and The Annoying Man. "10 days to go". I'm going to be sucked in again aren't I.

    Uh oh. :/

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 15:46

    Wow, most of the comments in this thread are from that convo last night!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:46

    Ah nuts, ad on C4. Big Bro music and The Annoying Man. "10 days to go". I'm going to be sucked in again aren't I.

    Lee Mack does a great impression of him :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCA5z3KJClY

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 15:51

    FakePiquet: "Hey, @fakeflav there is a printing error on my contract, it says here that it ends in July, that can't be right."

    :D

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 15:53

    #462 - Jackie said:

    Ironically Kathi has become the Schumacher of FR … miles ahead of all of us and needing a tweak in the rules to give us any chance of catching up!

    So she feels bad about being in the lead which is a shame as it’s spoiling her enjoyment as well

    Ahhh, the difference between the guys and the girls. If I held the position of the Michael Schumacher of FR, I would be suggesting that it is up to the other teams to catch up and rub it in by pointing out that Minardi of FR budget is less than my salary. And at the same time demanding that my rear gunner drives so slowly that I have no problem lapping the field....

    I only had a dream result in Montreal last year, in that all my picks where in the top 7 or 8 and the most popular picks took themselves out due to a red-spectrum colour blindness problem of a McLaren driver.

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:01

    So she feels bad about being in the lead which is a shame as it’s spoiling her enjoyment as well

    it would be a lot worse if someone from the autosport league had figured out the loophole first ;)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:02

    it would be a lot worse if someone from the autosport league had figured out the loophole first ;)

    Too true. :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:03

    One thing I hate about NASCAR: too much product placement. At least F1 keeps it tasteful. NASCAR goes over the top too often...

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 16:03

    #488 - Journeyer said:

    the cars are too aero and too fragile and there ain’t no passing!

    Right now, is there ANY 4-wheel series that has lots of passing? Heck, even NASCAR has less passing now…

    Try the Auto Shop class at any American High School.... :D .

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:03

    it would be a lot worse if someone from the autosport league had figured out the loophole first ;)

    Too true. :D

    nah then we'd just complain like Ferrari against Brawn.

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:04

    minor change to doohickey, if you refresh. you can now listen to podcasts in the lightboxy-active-thread-popup-window thing.

    at the moment, it's still not possible to vote on a poll that way, neither is long content scrollable. fixes for both of those things in the pipeline.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 16:05

    minor change to doohickey, if you refresh. you can now listen to podcasts in the lightboxy-active-thread-popup-window thing.

    Good stuff mr c, appreciate it as always :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:05

    minor change to doohickey, if you refresh. you can now listen to podcasts in the lightboxy-active-thread-popup-window thing.

    Ooooh... me likey... :D That said, I'd still listen to the podcast in a separate window - I wouldn't be able to chat while listening... would I?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 16:06

    minor change to doohickey, if you refresh. you can now listen to podcasts in the lightboxy-active-thread-popup-window thing.

    Oooh, nice one. Thanks as always :)

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:07

    you can now listen to podcasts in the lightboxy-active-thread-popup-window thing.

    fixes for both of those things in the pipeline.

    Great additions. From developer to another, how long is your pipeline (I have hundred of things on my list) and how to you keep track of what you've done already etc - simple spreadsheet?

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:08

    Ooooh... me likey... :D That said, I'd still listen to the podcast in a separate window - I wouldn't be able to chat while listening... would I?

    nope. it's of limited use, just means the posts make more sense when you read them.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:08

    Great additions. From [one] developer to another...

    There seem to be a lot of developers on here... :D

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 16:08

    Great additions. From developer to another, how long is your pipeline (I have hundred of things on my list) and how to you keep track of what you've done already etc - simple spreadsheet?

    I nag him.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:08

    nope. it's of limited use, just means the posts make more sense when you read them.

    Ahhh. Cool. Thanks! :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:09

    I nag him.

    Now THAT'S change management! :D

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:09

    Great additions. From developer to another, how long is your pipeline (I have hundred of things on my list) and how to you keep track of what you've done already etc - simple spreadsheet?

    the pipeline stretches farther than the eye can see ;)

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:10

    I nag him.

    when my bosses do that, i get annoyed and change jobs. so be careful :)

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:10

    the pipeline stretches farther than the eye can see ;)

    Glad to know I'm not the only one...one change brings four more "to-do"s..

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:10

    when my bosses do that, i get annoyed and change jobs. so be careful :)

    She's not his boss, she's his wife. ;)

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 16:11

    when my bosses do that, i get annoyed and change jobs. so be careful :)

    No one else would put up with his demands for nachos.

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 16:13

    Games? Programs? Drivers? How does it go?

    Didn’t have to install any drivers for my laptop - picked everything up correctly.

    Games - around the same speed as XP

    Programs - if it works in XP or Vista it should work in Win7

    If you go for the higher level ones - you even get a copy of Virtual PC with Windows XP configured with it. So if there is anything that misbehaves then you can run it through emulation. I wouldn’t bother though.

    What about… Grand Prix Legends?

    GPL works in Windows Xp quite nicely, if you have enough VRAM to have a complete line up at the old Nurbergring...

    Currently running the Honda as "Yenson Zipper"... :D .

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:14

    No one else would put up with his demands for nachos.

    maybe i should ask for nachos in my contract discussions this week. hmmm. nice ideas.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:14

    Any musical suggestions. I’m looking for something nice and sunshiny.

    The Shins

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:15

    She's not his boss, she's his wife. ;)

    aar yeah ;)

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 16:15

    Ah nuts, ad on C4. Big Bro music and The Annoying Man. “10 days to go”. I’m going to be sucked in again aren’t I.

    Arghh.... noo.........

    Why couldn't they have waited a few days? Oh yes, they are expecting to capitalise from the whole 'oh gord there's nothing but election coverage on everywhere!' factor aren't they ....

    Music Mr AA - how about something from Air, Eve and the Garden, or the Grimethorpe Colliery Band?? (Although Fat and Frantic - Electric Sunbathing in particular :-) - might do you for 'summer' )

    Back to try and finally watch yesterdays GP now....

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:15

    I've spent the last 4-ish hours listening to Silverstone LMS race RadioLeMans commentry....

    John Hindhaugh (Hind-hoff)'s voice is strangely soothing.....

    anywho, how are we all today?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:16

    600 just got started. Lap 6 - first caution, due to... 'a few drops [of rain]'.

    Great. :|

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 16:17

    She's not his boss, she's his wife. ;)

    Actually I think I'm both :)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:18

    Great. :|

    WET TYRES MAN!!! WETS!!! WETS I TELL YOU!! WITH GROVES IN THEM!!!

    man it annoys me. boo.

    rant over

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:18

    Actually I think I'm both :)

    :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:18

    WET TYRES MAN!!! WETS!!! WETS I TELL YOU!! WITH GROVES IN THEM!!!

    Don't forget wipers. :D

    EEK! Digger commercial! EEK!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:18

    Actually I think I'm both :)

    Heheh! :D

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:18

    Music Mr AA - might do you for 'summer' )

    beach boys! dedicated to FOTA and FIA

    You know its gonna make it that much better

    When we can say goodnight and stay together

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:19

    EEK! Digger commercial! EEK!

    But I love the Aflac Duck... Af-lac! :D

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:19

    600 just got started. Lap 6 - first caution, due to... 'a few drops [of rain]'.

    ummm. what's the 600?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:20

    ummm. what's the 600?

    Coca-Cola 600. NASCAR's longest race.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:21

    Christine: 25/05/2009 at 17:17:53

    She's not his boss, she's his wife.

    Actually I think I'm both

    Your name is on the 'door' (front page), so you could be right..

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:21

    Random oval thought: Say Danica DID move to NASCAR and the IndyCar series never recovered - and it closed.

    What do you think of the Indy 500 becoming a full-fledged F1 race? Yes, it's unlikely, but does the thought of it make you interested?

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:21

    Coca-Cola 600. NASCAR's longest race.

    Nascar dosen't do short races though do they?

    As my new hero Mr Hind-hoff says "it's not motorsport, it's 'entertainment' "

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:22

    Nascar dosen't do short races though do they?

    Short tracks, yes. Short races, no.

    As my new hero Mr Hind-hoff says "it's not motorsport, it's 'entertainment' "

    Said that about NASCAR? I'd agree.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:23

    Said that about NASCAR? I'd agree.

    Yup. It bores me to tears, apart from the crashes

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:25

    Journeyer: 25/05/2009 at 17:21:56

    Random oval thought: Say Danica DID move to NASCAR and the IndyCar series never recovered - and it closed.

    What do you think of the Indy 500 becoming a full-fledged F1 race? Yes, it's unlikely, but does the thought of it make you interested?

    Are you seriously trying to suggest the fate of the IndyCar Series rests on what Danica does???

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:25

    Yup. It bores me to tears, apart from the crashes

    Start of Lap 17 - car hits the wall. some debris.

    Caution. Riiight. They'll be testing people's patience today, then...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:27

    http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=1&month=11&year=2009&hour=1&min=00&sec=00&p0=0

    3824 hours till the off season starts!

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:27

    Coca-Cola 600. NASCAR's longest race.

    thanks. don't follow NASCAR. but when i move to the US who knows...

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:27

    http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=1&month=11&year=2009&hour=1&min=00&sec=00&p0=0

    3824 hours till the off season starts!

    woo-hoo! me loves the off-season.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:27

    Are you seriously trying to suggest the fate of the IndyCar Series rests on what Danica does???

    Yes and No. The Indy 500 will survive, whatever happens. The Series? Not so sure. It suffers from chronic mismanagement (worse than F1), and we won't see a 2nd breakaway here.

    NOTE: That's why I said this scenario is UNlikely. But I am floating the idea of the Indy 500 as an F1 race.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 16:27

    Said that about NASCAR? I'd agree.

    Yup. It bores me to tears, apart from the crashes

    Not so long ago a one-hour highlights package was watchable, but with this silly Car of Tomorrow the racing has been ruined :(

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:28

    thanks. don't follow NASCAR. but when i move to the US who knows...

    I'll pay you to never watch a NASCAR race.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:28

    woo-hoo! me loves the off-season.

    riiight...

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:29

    thanks. don't follow NASCAR. but when i move to the US who knows...

    I'll pay you to never watch a NASCAR race.

    :) bidding starts at $1, the same price you can buy an F1 team for.

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 16:29

    What do you think of the Indy 500 becoming a full-fledged F1 race? Yes, it's unlikely, but does the thought of it make you interested?

    I'd love to see one (I emphasize it, Bernie, only ONE) F1 oval race. Taking into account the history, Indy 500 would be the natural choice. But obviously it will go against the cost-cutting measures unless you force the teams to use the same car there than everywhere else...

  • lou25/05/2009 at 16:29

    3824 hours till the off season starts!

    why would you want to count down until the off season starts :(

  • lou25/05/2009 at 16:29

    woo-hoo! me loves the off-season.

    because you get more time of a weekend?

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:30

    why would you want to count down until the off season starts :(

    ahah, so then we can procrastinate over how good brawn will be!

    i found a link to that site in my favourites lol

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:30

    I'd love to see one (I emphasize it, Bernie, only ONE) F1 oval race. Taking into account the history, Indy 500 would be the natural choice. But obviously it will go against the cost-cutting measures unless you force the teams to use the same car there than everywhere else...

    I'd agree - more than zero, but less than two. :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:30

    why would you want to count down until the off season starts :(

    did you see the comment someone made earlier about how you'd be in the offseason? not sure who or what time that came up...

  • lou25/05/2009 at 16:31

    did you see the comment someone made earlier about how you'd be in the offseason? not sure who or what time that came up...

    i haven't read back through the comments yet, i'll do so now.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:31

    Yes and No. The Indy 500 will survive, whatever happens. The Series? Not so sure. It suffers from chronic mismanagement (worse than F1), and we won't see a 2nd breakaway here.

    If they can get as far as the new car they'll be fine - they just need to be able to afford it. There are rumours of VW coming in to race with Honda.

    NOTE: That's why I said this scenario is UNlikely. But I am floating the idea of the Indy 500 as an F1 race.

    F1 cars would need to be radically redesigned for oval crashes and the engines would need to be changed to cope with running flat out for that long.

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:31

    3824 hours till the off season starts!

    why would you want to count down until the off season starts :(

    the off-season is brilliant. had so much fun last year, i didn't really want it to end.

    we get more done. get to be more creative and generally it's a more enjoyable time for us.

    during the on-season we just bounce from race to race, hoping that we'll fit some sleep in when we're able to.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:32

    woo-hoo! me loves the off-season.

    You are wrong.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 16:32

    What do you think of the Indy 500 becoming a full-fledged F1 race? Yes, it's unlikely, but does the thought of it make you interested?

    In the 60's it was part of the world championship...

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:33

    woo-hoo! me loves the off-season.

    You are wrong.

    :D

  • lou25/05/2009 at 16:33

    during the on-season we just bounce from race to race, hoping that we'll fit some sleep in when we're able to.

    oh... but there is not racing in the off season... don't you get withdrawal from it? i always do.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:33

    In the 60's it was part of the world championship...

    50s

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:34

    we get more done.

    yeah i agree with that! I go out more :)

    get to be more creative

    and we played eye-spy :)

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:34

    oh... but there is not racing in the off season... don't you get withdrawal from it? i always do.

    nah, not really.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:34

    yeah i agree with that! I go out more :)

    go?out?more?

    what is this concept.

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 16:34

    and we played eye-spy :)

    in space no less!!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:34

    If they can get as far as the new car they'll be fine - they just need to be able to afford it. There are rumours of VW coming in to race with Honda.

    VW will pick this over F1?! Goodness, they really like choosing small ponds, don't they? *sigh*

    F1 cars would need to be radically redesigned for oval crashes and the engines would need to be changed to cope with running flat out for that long.

    Hey, we have a Monza special, why not an Indy special? :D But seriously, how radical would the redesign need to be?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:34

    You are wrong.

    although it does enable me to catch up with downloads of races, that I can't talk about

  • lou25/05/2009 at 16:34

    nah, not really.

    lucky.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:35

    we get more done. get to be more creative and generally it's a more enjoyable time for us.

    Fair enough.

    during the on-season we just bounce from race to race, hoping that we'll fit some sleep in when we're able to.

    Hmm, no offence but there's a part of me saying you brought it on yourselves...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:35

    50s

    F1 drivers didn't race in it in the 50s, yet many tried it in the 60s even if it wasn't part of the Championship...

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:35

    and we played eye-spy

    its the off-season. desperate times call for desperate measures.

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 16:36

    lucky.

    But only because we have a thousand other projects for Sidepodcast that don't get any attention while the racing is on.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:36

    VW will pick this over F1?! Goodness, they really like choosing small ponds, don’t they? *sigh*

    I don't see it as an either/or against F1, more against N-word.

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 16:36

    Hmm, no offence but there's a part of me saying you brought it on yourselves...

    Hmm... offence taken.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:37

    I don't see it as an either/or against F1, more against N-word.

    N-word?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:37

    Hey, we have a Monza special, why not an Indy special? But seriously, how radical would the redesign need to be?

    for a start the car would have to be larger to incorporate the crash structures. the cars may be ugly but Dallara did a mega job with that.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:37

    what is this concept.

    beats me. it's why I'm moving to a country to watch F1 at dawn - moves it out of the way. this middle of the day racing is such an inconvenience to me. I loved watching F1 at 10:30pm at night in Australia, but the problem is that they'd delay until whenever the movie finished - and if the tennis or golf was on, well .. bad luck.

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 16:37

    But seriously, how radical would the redesign need to be?

    Very. A lot of the telemetry components are very different. The temp sensors would need to operate in a different range, ditto the suspension would need totally overhauling... different ties for head support (g force being constant and other things), KERs could be a total liability, and weight of the car...

    and then there is the fuel thing.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:38

    N-word?

    A term for the series you are presently watching, brought about by IndyCar bloggers who didn't want the Google ads/traffic from that fanbase...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:38

    and then there is the fuel thing.

    ugh. i miss the 60s when Clark could run the same car in both Monaco and Indy and only need to make some changes to make it work on both circuits.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:39

    A term for the series you are presently watching, brought about by IndyCar bloggers who didn't want the Google ads/traffic from that fanbase...

    LOL

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 16:39

    But seriously, how radical would the redesign need to be?

    Well, they run an oval car and a road course car which look completely different, so, quite radical I'd say.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:39

    A term for the series you are presently watching, brought about by IndyCar bloggers who didn't want the Google ads/traffic from that fanbase...

    :D heh. :P

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 16:39

    nah, not really.

    surely it can't just be myself and lou to gets withdrawal from f1 during the offseason?

    even with the Honda saga and huge amount of enws over our previous winter i got lots of withdrawal :(

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:40

    Gavin Brown (RubberGoat): 25/05/2009 at 17:39:12

    But seriously, how radical would the redesign need to be?

    Well, they run an oval car and a road course car which look completely different, so, quite radical I'd say.

    It's the same car with a different wing package.

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 16:40

    Very. A lot of the telemetry components are very different. The temp sensors would need to operate in a different range, ditto the suspension would need totally overhauling... different ties for head support (g force being constant and other things), KERs could be a total liability, and weight of the car...

    Yeah, but only if you want to have the most efficient oval racing car. Apart from improved crash structures, the other things are not essential.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 16:40

    It's the same car with a different wing package.

    And different suspension?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:41

    surely it can't just be myself and lou to gets withdrawal from f1 during the offseason?

    I get F1 withdrawal but have sportscars and touring cars to feed my racing needs, and A1. It isn't the same.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:41

    surely it can't just be myself and lou to gets withdrawal from f1 during the offseason?

    i love the off season, loads of news, nearly all of it complete rubbish. then theres christmas, new year, just loads of fun :)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:41

    And different suspension?

    Could be

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 16:42

    It's the same car with a different wing package.

    And different suspension?

    Yup - oval track car design have one side of the car wider than the other.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:42

    i love the off season, loads of news, nearly all of it complete rubbish. then theres christmas, new year, just loads of fun

    The off-season is cold and the only live racing is A1GP. The off-season sucks.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:42

    The off-season is cold and the only live racing is A1GP. The off-season sucks.

    Which may or may not be around this year.

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 16:43

    I just think the off-season makes the season more special.

    The same way the panel is much better because it takes a break.

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 16:44

    The off-season is cold and the only live racing is A1GP. The off-season sucks.

    You should move to the Southern hemisphere then, preferably to a place with lots of outdoors activities... ;-)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:44

    Which may or may not be around this year.

    Indeed.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:44

    I just think the off-season makes the season more special.

    and it took me atleast 3 months to get over my mild heart attack following hammys last lap glock pass

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:44

    Yup - oval track car design have one side of the car wider than the other.

    I really don't know if that is true these days.. Doesn't look it from the onboards.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:45

    Pat W: 25/05/2009 at 16:44

    Yup - oval track car design have one side of the car wider than the other.

    I really don’t know if that is true these days.. Doesn’t look it from the onboards.

    but they do have different weights in each sidepod. oil system, cooling etc, was all on one side. I think Dallara had to do a lot of work to make the car road-course compatible

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:45

    N-word?

    A term for the series you are presently watching, brought about by IndyCar bloggers who didn't want the Google ads/traffic from that fanbase...

    genius.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:46

    Christine: 25/05/2009 at 17:43:58

    I just think the off-season makes the season more special.

    The same way the panel is much better because it takes a break.

    This is very true but that doesn't make December any easier.

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 16:46

    This is very true but that doesn't make December any easier.

    Being an F1 fan is rarely easy.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:46

    This is very true but that doesn't make December any easier.

    Christmas? New Year? Theres loads of fun to be had

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 16:47

    This is very true but that doesn't make December any easier.

    Christmas and the new year (and my birthday.... kinda...) helps get my mind off no f1 :P

    Although November is worse, knowing how long it is until it returns...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:47

    Being an F1 fan is rarely easy.

    The FIA's mission statement..

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:47

    This is very true but that doesn't make December any easier.

    I spent one hour translating the Honda being sold story from Italian media because there were no english versions around that morning. I'm still bitter it turned out to be rubbish. that's one hour of my life I'll never get back. although i did get to find out italian is not that hard ;)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:47

    Christmas? New Year? Theres loads of fun to be had

    Over-commercialised.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:48

    Over-commercialised.

    Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Valentines Day - now THAT'S over-commercialised.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:49

    Over-commercialised.

    in my house we celebrate the real meaning of it, so it's alot more fun :)

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:49

    Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Valentines Day - now THAT'S over-commercialised.

    except if you're female in which case you say it is, but still expect lots of presents..

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:49

    in my house we celebrate the real meaning of it, so it's alot more fun :)

    same here! :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:50

    except if you're female in which case you say it is, but still expect lots of presents..

    I remember when Mr C took Christine out on V-Day... :D

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:50

    in my house we celebrate the real meaning of it, so it's alot more fun :)

    same here! :)

    christmas day was AWESOME this year, and pretty amazing last year too

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 16:51

    christmas day was AWESOME this year, and pretty amazing last year too

    You must be psychic, what is mine going to be like this year?

    ;)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:52

    You must be psychic, what is mine going to be like this year?

    i work in academic years :P

  • me25/05/2009 at 16:52

    I remember when Mr C took Christine out on V-Day... :D

    shhhh!

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 16:52

    Yeah, but only if you want to have the most efficient oval racing car. Apart from improved crash structures, the other things are not essential.

    The suspension and head supports are quite key to the whole safety thing...

    And the telemetry and sensors would be a bit of a boost to UK trade if they had to take on the same stuff as indy currently use :-)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:52

    I remember when Mr C took Christine out on V-Day... :D

    shhhh!

    :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:52

    shhhh!

    :P

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 16:52

    shhhh!

    Am still waiting for a present.

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 16:53

    in my house we celebrate the real meaning of it, so it's alot more fun :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:53

    Am still waiting for a present.

    :D

  • lou25/05/2009 at 16:53

    hahahaha ooh i see what you mean Journeyer....

    Seriously, when this season is over, the girl is going to suffer from withdrawal symptons the likes of which the world has never seen…

    that's so true. i think i may need to hibernate...

    Jenson’s going to have run for Prime Minister to top this in Lou’s eyes

    haha :D i'll settle for a good season for Brawn GP ;) as much as i like Jenson he'd be a rubbish PM.

    She needs to watch the 2nd half of the season with Oxygen and a paper bag for hyperventilation

    funnily enough a friend of mine told me that she may have to come a supervise me soon while i watch f1 just so she can make sure i dont pass out haha

    I doubt I was the only one but I find it pretty cool Suzi perry dent me a direct message on Twitter… awesome.

    i got one too, it's nice that she takes the time to reply to tweets :)

  • lou25/05/2009 at 16:54

    I just think the off-season makes the season more special.

    The same way the panel is much better because it takes a break.

    you make a very good point. and i agree off seasons do help to make the season more enjoyable, but this years just felt so long.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:54

    that's so true. i think i may need to hibernate...

    or perhaps regenerate like Amy. :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:54

    you make a very good point. and i agree off seasons do help to make the season more enjoyable, but this years just felt so long.

    blame honda. but wasn't it ALL worth it? :D

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:54

    you make a very good point. and i agree off seasons do help to make the season more enjoyable, but this years just felt so long.

    next will be longer, testing banned till 1st jan

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 16:55

    in my house we celebrate the real meaning of it, so it's alot more fun :)

    Begs the question - which 'real meaning'... 21st or 25th?

    And to stick up for the females here - I do not see the point of valentines and neither do I expect anything.... *and* I refuse to exploit it for commercial means!! I'd rather have my birthday remembered and not have to make my own cake tbh....

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:55

    Begs the question - which 'real meaning'... 21st or 25th?

    21st?!?!?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:55

    Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Valentines Day - now THAT'S over-commercialised.

    I'm in the position where I can ignore that!

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:57

    Jon Waldock: 25/05/2009 at 17:49:17

    Over-commercialised.

    in my house we celebrate the real meaning of it, so it's alot more fun

    Not really my thing.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 16:57

    blame honda. but wasn't it ALL worth it? :D

    with hindsight it was totally worth it, and i can't believe how it's turned out. but back then the no, it was horrible. and not having any internet when it happened just made everything worse.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:57

    Although I like the family get togethers..

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 16:57

    21st?!?!?

    Ok, that does answer that one quite nicely :0

    I get 'two' december things :-) Lots of pagan friends who do Yule, and then the whole western christian tradition a few days later with my dad's birthday tucked in on the 24th :-)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 16:57

    And the dinner!

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 16:58

    And to stick up for the females here - I do not see the point of valentines and neither do I expect anything.... *and* I refuse to exploit it for commercial means!! I'd rather have my birthday remembered and not have to make my own cake tbh....

    on behalf of men - still too many demands ;)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:58

    I get 'two' december things :-) Lots of pagan friends who do Yule, and then the whole western christian tradition a few days later with my dad's birthday tucked in on the 24th :-)

    Nope, never heard of the 21st before.

    I firmly meant 25th :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:58

    with hindsight it was totally worth it, and i can't believe how it's turned out. but back then the no, it was horrible. and not having any internet when it happened just made everything worse.

    makes it all the sweeter now. :D

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 16:58

    on behalf of men - still too many demands ;)

    pah! speak for yourself man!

    cakes are eeeeeeeasy to make

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:59

    makes it all the sweeter now. :D

    two more things Jenson wants to do this year:

    1. win what could be the last British GP at Silverstone

    2. win the championship

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 16:59

    cakes are eeeeeeeasy to make

    pah! speak for yourself man!

    :P

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:00

    cakes are eeeeeeeasy to make

    i agree, but stereotypes can be fun. i was swapping recipes with amy a few days ago :) i recommend a banana cake recipe but Amy was scared by buttermilk...

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:00

    Caution #4 - the 2nd one for rain. Even the commentators are snickering that these are nothing more than showers...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:00

    two more things Jenson wants to do this year:

    1. win what could be the last British GP at Silverstone

    2. win the championship

    i'm sure i'm going to get screamed at for this, but i'd quite like Lewis to win this years British GP, have a good wet race.

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 17:00

    on behalf of men - still too many demands ;)

    I'm resigned to that being the case these days.... I went out and bought my own birthday present yesterday :-D

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:00

    two more things Jenson wants to do this year:

    1. win what could be the last British GP at Silverstone

    2. win the championship

    3. be less boring. (what he said; Lou do not kill me)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:00

    i'm sure i'm going to get screamed at for this, but i'd quite like Lewis to win this years British GP, have a good wet race.

    Lewis already won it last year. Give Jenson a chance. :D

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:00

    i agree, but stereotypes can be fun. i was swapping recipes with amy a few days ago :) i recommend a banana cake recipe but Amy was scared by buttermilk...

    aaah, hehe

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:01

    I'm resigned to that being the case these days.... I went out and bought my own birthday present yesterday :-D

    :o shocking

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:01

    I'm resigned to that being the case these days.... I went out and bought my own birthday present yesterday :-D

    this is great - it's nothing you already have or would never ever want.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:01

    Lewis already won it last year. Give Jenson a chance. :D

    its got nothing to do with Jenson...i'm just a bit bored of him winning now.

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 17:02

    I'm resigned to that being the case these days.... I went out and bought my own birthday present yesterday

    Ouch...

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:02

    its got nothing to do with Jenson...i'm just a bit bored of him winning now.

    Yeah we need a decent title fight please!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:02

    its got nothing to do with Jenson...i'm just a bit bored of him winning now.

    how can you be bored with him winning silverstone? :D cmon! i'd rather he lose out to vettel at istanbul rather than silverstone. :)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:02

    I'm resigned to that being the case these days.... I went out and bought my own birthday present yesterday

    Well that's going a bit too far!

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 17:03

    I'm resigned to that being the case these days.... I went out and bought my own birthday present yesterday :-D

    Nothing wrong with that 0 I normally buy myself my own presents for birthdays and christmas.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:03

    Yeah we need a decent title fight please!

    as Christine said on sunday, if this was schumacher and a ferrari we'd all be complaining

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:03

    i'm sure i'm going to get screamed at for this, but i'd quite like Lewis to win this years British GP, have a good wet race.

    i'm not going to scream... :D but obv i would love Jenson to win it, just cause he never seems to do that well at the British GP, and he is so patriotic it would be a shame for him not to do it this year when he has a chance.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:03

    Yeah we need a decent title fight please!

    That would be up to Vettel and Barrichello. Vettel DNFed, Barrichello lost 12 seconds in 1 stint in the same car on the same strategy.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:04

    as Christine said on sunday, if this was schumacher and a ferrari we'd all be complaining

    but it's not, so why complain? ;)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:04

    as Christine said on sunday, if this was schumacher and a ferrari we'd all be complaining

    Yep. People are only not complaining because it is still a 'feelgood' story. That's beginning to wear off now.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:04

    how can you be bored with him winning silverstone? :D cmon! i'd rather he lose out to vettel at istanbul rather than silverstone. :)

    ok, so i'd like him to win, but i'd like a proper race, with him really dicing with people

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 17:04

    its got nothing to do with Jenson...i'm just a bit bored of him winning now.

    This is why I think F1 fans are whingers.

    Last Year: "Poor Jenson"

    This Year: "He's winning all the time!"

    Let him enjoy his well-deserved moment in the sun!

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:04

    as Christine said on sunday, if this was schumacher and a ferrari we'd all be complaining

    even bernie said something like "bloody predictable" when interviewed by a certain F1 journalist/Spice girl on the grid walk.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:04

    its got nothing to do with Jenson...i'm just a bit bored of him winning now.

    that's fair enough, i think i would be bored of him winning if i hadn't supported them for years.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:05

    Yep. People are only not complaining because it is still a 'feelgood' story. That's beginning to wear off now.

    it'll only wear off once he wins the championship. for now, it'll still feel good. jenson running to the royal box helps too. :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:05

    Let him enjoy his well-deserved moment in the sun!

    agreed! :)

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 17:05

    Note to self... don't make F1 jokes at the dinner table to non f1 fans...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:05

    This is why I think F1 fans are whingers.

    It has nothing to do with Jenson, and he's a great driver, and the teams story is amazing etc etc. BUT i want to watch a sport where the winner overtakes loads of people.

  • me25/05/2009 at 17:06

    Note to self... don't make F1 jokes at the dinner table to non f1 fans...

    did you say the meal was a little bit piquet?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 17:06

    It has nothing to do with Jenson, and he's a great driver, and the teams story is amazing etc etc. BUT i want to watch a sport where the winner overtakes loads of people.

    Then why are you watching F1?

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:06

    that's fair enough, i think i would be bored of him winning if i hadn't supported them for years.

    ooooh, nice dig there. i've always stuck up for him, but i want different drivers to win each race.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:06

    Then why are you watching F1?

    its all comparitive, "loads" means 3 or 4 lol.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:07

    Let him enjoy his well-deserved moment in the sun!

    :D

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 17:07

    did you say the meal was a little bit piquet?

    My mum said her curry was really burny, so I replied 'just be glad there's no Max in there too' to a blank look...

    d'oh. :(

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:07

    Note to self... don't make F1 jokes at the dinner table to non f1 fans...

    haha i did that once and was greeted with blank pitying faces. i haven't done it since.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:08

    ooooh, nice dig there. i've always stuck up for him, but i want different drivers to win each race.

    i didn't mean it as a dig :( sorry!

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:09

    My mum said her curry was really burny, so I replied 'just be glad there's no Max in there too' to a blank look...

    haha :)

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 17:09

    37 #658 - Gavin Brown (RubberGoat) said:

    I wish I didn’t watch that, I feel necessary to watch the film now. Such a classic.

    Am yet to see that - but I know all the jokes!

    I suspect since he still lives, "me" was the last drummer od Spinal Tap...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:09

    i didn't mean it as a dig :( sorry!

    haha it's ok :)

    i know he's had it bad for a loooong time, and i'm happy that he's back up the front, but i was all hyped up this year for some really close racing, but it never happened. i would just like a proper title fight, rather than 1 guy running off, dosent matter who it is

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:10

    My mum said her curry was really burny, so I replied 'just be glad there's no Max in there too' to a blank look...

    :)

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:10

    red flag due to rain. but the rain has stopped - for the moment.

    out come the jet dryers...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:11

    red flag due to rain. but the rain has stopped - for the moment.

    oh.my.goodness.

    seriously, why is this even considered a sport

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 17:12

    red flag due to rain. but the rain has stopped - for the moment.

    oh.my.goodness.

    seriously, why is this even considered a sport

    They did run a Busch race at Montreal (The GP circuit) in the rain once. The wet tyres they used were 10 years old (older than the tyre barriers) and the wipers didn't work - one guy used a squeegee to see where he was going!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:12

    oh.my.goodness.

    and this is way less rain than we saw at any wet F1 race last year.

    seriously, why is this even considered a sport

    oddly enough, only US motorsport stop for rain now. F1, MotoGP, WRC, and similar European formulae don't stop for rain. Either they used to and stopped doing it, or never did it at all...

  • me25/05/2009 at 17:13

    out come the jet dryers...

    they have jet dryers?

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:13

    they have jet dryers?

    yup - to dry the track as quickly as possible. that's how allergic they are to rain.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:14

    It seems some here think it would be a good idea to run at Charlotte in the wet...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 17:15

    yup - to dry the track as quickly as possible. that's how allergic they are to rain.

    Well, they're not allergic to rain on road courses.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:15

    Well, they're not allergic to rain on road courses.

    they're not? but i thought they don't have wet tyres?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:15

    Running on an oval in the wet would be madness. The only oval track where they do it is at Daytona for the 24 Hours (oval + infield layout). Cars have been known to slide down the banking.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 17:16

    Well, they're not allergic to rain on road courses.

    They did an exhibition race at Suzuka and it was wet so rain tyres had to be used. They also had a Nationwide Series race at Montreal last year I think where it tipped it down, and they had to get rain tyres out which I believe were 10 years old!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:17

    Running on an oval in the wet would be madness. The only oval track where they do it is at Daytona for the 24 Hours (oval + infield layout). Cars have been known to slide down the banking.

    That may explain why only US motorsport observe rain delays - they're the only ones than run a lot on ovals...

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:18

    That may explain why only US motorsport observe rain delays - they're the only ones than run a lot on ovals...

    But they only observe rain delays for oval events..

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:19

    But they only observe rain delays for oval events..

    true, but that's their bread and butter. which isn't the case in europe...

  • Joe in Fla25/05/2009 at 17:22

    NASCAR is definitely a cure for insomnia. I only keep up with it to see how Scott Speed is doing.

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:23

    NASCAR is definitely a cure for insomnia. I only keep up with it to see how Scott Speed is doing.

    I agree. Will keep it on as I fall asleep tonight. :D

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F125/05/2009 at 17:25

    #744 - lou said:

    during the on-season we just bounce from race to race, hoping that we’ll fit some sleep in when we’re able to.

    oh… but there is not racing in the off season… don’t you get withdrawal from it? i always do.

    Medical Science has not yet been able to determine what is YOU suffer from at the end of each race Lou, it is too serve to be labelled "withdrawal"

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:26

    Medical Science has not yet been able to determine what [it] is YOU suffer from at the end of each race Lou, it is too [severe] to be labelled "withdrawal"

    I'd just call it hyperactivity. :D

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:27

    I'll be off then. Will continue watching the 600 from bed.

    Night, everyone. :)

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 17:27

    I'd just call it hyperactivity. :D

    I call it Can't-get-enough-of-Jenson-Rubens-and-Brawn-itis.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 17:27

    I'll be off then. Will continue watching the 600 from bed.

    Night, everyone. :)

    Hah - you won't last long!

    Good night!

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:28

    Night, everyone. :)

    night J

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:28

    Night, everyone. :)

    night journeyer!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 17:28

    Hah - you won't last long!

    I know - might not even make it to the end of the rain delay! :D Night!

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:29

    I'd just call it hyperactivity. :D

    :D haha

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:29

    Medical Science has not yet been able to determine what is YOU suffer from at the end of each race Lou, it is too serve to be labelled "withdrawal"

    :) I could run some tests.... just send me a drop of blood - I'll check to see if you have Minardi DNA

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 17:29

    Night, everyone.

    good night

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:29

    I call it Can't-get-enough-of-Jenson-Rubens-and-Brawn-itis.

    there are worse things to have :)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:30

    Night, everyone.

    night

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:30

    'll check to see if you have Minardi DNA

    *ahem*

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 17:30

    I call it Can't-get-enough-of-Jenson-Rubens-and-Brawn-itis.

    Not a bad syndrome to have ;)

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 17:33

    there are worse things to have

    Love-for-anything-red-with-a-Prancing-Horse-on-it-itis? Specially in the bad years... ;-)

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:35

    *ahem*

    Everything in F1 seems to have Minardi DNA...I'm pretty sure that's not biologically correct.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:36

    omg i'm just listening to scott mills show from this morning... they were talking about Martin's interview with Bernie and Geri Halliwell and Formula 1. that was strange.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:38

    omg i'm just listening to scott mills show from this morning... they were talking about Martin's interview with Bernie and Geri Halliwell and Formula 1. that was strange.

    I think Geri did a good job of interviewing Bernie. Who's this Scott character that seems to be stealing my name...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:39

    I think Geri did a good job of interviewing Bernie. Who's this Scott character that seems to be stealing my name...

    he's not a patch on you, trust me.

    plus, he's orange

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:39

    I think Geri did a good job of interviewing Bernie. Who's this Scott character that seems to be stealing my name...

    Scott Mills is a radio 1 DJ. lol pretty funny and very orange.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:40

    he's not a patch on you, trust me.

    i agree. but it's something to listen to while revising/ writing notes.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:41

    Scott Mills is a radio 1 DJ. lol pretty funny and very orange.

    I didn't realise he is orange now..

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 17:42

    Mr C has been up to something again:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/05/25/now-about-those-movable-boxes/

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:42

    lou: 25/05/2009 at 18:40:13

    he's not a patch on you, trust me.

    i agree. but it's something to listen to while revising/ writing notes.

    I ought do some revision I suppose... first: food and a cup of tea

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:42

    he's not a patch on you, trust me.

    plus, he's orange

    :) Funny how both you and Lou used the orange word. Who says I'm not orange?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:42

    I didn't realise he is orange now..

    too much fake tan :P

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 17:43

    Mr C has been up to something again:

    SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETAH! :D

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:43

    Mr C has been up to something again:

    oooh

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 17:43

    I ought do some revision I suppose... first: food and a cup of tea

    I'm done abour 15 minutes of revision in my hope of 3-4 hours of revision - I'm on fire today.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:43

    that was the test message earlier then :-)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:43

    (closes old LCLT - goodbye, friend)

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 17:44

    (closes old LCLT - goodbye, friend)

    Awww.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:44

    i agree. but it's something to listen to while revising/ writing notes.

    nice save Lou. You dropped below Jon in my favourite list. FYI, I used to have a radio show, possibly not the same caliber, but we had fun.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:45

    (opens new LC - ooh, swanky)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:46

    FF 3.0.1.0 hung for a few seconds while it loaded content.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 17:46

    (closes old LCLT - goodbye, friend)

    "We had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun.

    But the wine and the song, now old LCLT's gone."

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:46

    But there's zero 'thinking about it' time when I send a new msg!

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:46

    I suppose I should read the post now :-)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 17:47

    Evening all

    Mr C has been up to something again:

    ooh.. exciting

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 17:47

    FF 3.0.1.0 hung for a few seconds while it loaded content.

    To be fair it says on the Still to Do stuff about that

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:49

    To be fair it says on the Still to Do stuff about that

    Yep just saw that.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 17:49

    So this is what Christine was testing out earlier....

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:49

    I'm playing with movable boxes!

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:51

    Oh yes I like this.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:52

    I'm impressed. Thanks :) One quick question before I disappear for the evening, will there be a box for an embedded feed?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:52

    I'm impressed. Thanks :) One quick question before I disappear for the evening, will there be a box for an embedded feed?

    That's the top left is it not?

  • me25/05/2009 at 17:53

    I'm impressed. Thanks :) One quick question before I disappear for the evening, will there be a box for an embedded feed?

    That's the top left is it not?

    sort of. feeds may remain in the main post, depending on how we use the FBFB.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:55

    sort of. feeds may remain in the main post, depending on how we use the FBFB.

    Cool. I could teach you how to get the live timing numbers and stick them in that box :) Great work. now when's that next race...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 17:56

    Cool. I could teach you how to get the live timing numbers and stick them in that box :) Great work. now when's that next race...

    You've got two weeks then ;)

  • me25/05/2009 at 17:56

    the discussion about movable boxes... from last september:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/09/14/live-commenting-italy-the-race/#comment-106838

    we're not very quick are we!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 17:57

    we're not very quick are we!

    The main thing is - it's done! How long it took is now irrelevant in some respects. Now that we have it and it works, that's all that matters :)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 17:58

    Oh, anyone who downloaded James allens toolbar, apparently it has a nasty conduit search thing* which remains even after uninstall.

    *Not that i know what it is, just what i have heard is all

  • me25/05/2009 at 17:58

    Cool. I could teach you how to get the live timing numbers and stick them in that box :) Great work. now when's that next race...

    far enough away to make sure that it's stable :)

    we almost could've released in time for monaco (the date this was promised to be ready by). but it was just to risky.

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 17:58

    The main thing is - it's done! How long it took is now irrelevant in some respects. Now that we have it and it works, that's all that matters :)

    Depends how much nagging he got really, and if that will stop now :)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 17:58

    we're not very quick are we!

    Doesn't matter! You guys have had a lot on since March and probably earlier.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 17:58

    we're not very quick are we!

    Actually - you said you'd have something around Monaco time and you delivered! Well done guys!

  • me25/05/2009 at 17:58

    Oh, anyone who downloaded James allens toolbar, apparently it has a nasty conduit search thing* which remains even after uninstall.

    *Not that i know what it is, just what i have heard is all

    oh dear :(

  • lou25/05/2009 at 17:58

    we're not very quick are we!

    but it's better than we could have ever imagined!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 17:59

    Oh, anyone who downloaded James allens toolbar, apparently it has a nasty conduit search thing* which remains even after uninstall.

    *Not that i know what it is, just what i have heard is all

    oh dear :(

    I knew he was evil. I just knew it!

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 18:00

    we almost could've released in time for monaco (the date this was promised to be ready by). but it was just to risky.

    You've done well - better to be safe than sorry when it comes to stability. look at the history of Windows if you want to see what happens.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 18:00

    we're not very quick are we!

    it's here and it's awesome, thats what matters :)

    look how long it took Jenson to get in an awesome car, I doubt all that waiting matters to him now he has it ;)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 18:01

    Im loving these boxes, although im strangely hypnotised by the FBFB waiting for something magical to appear...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 18:01

    we almost could've released in time for monaco (the date this was promised to be ready by). but it was just to risky.

    As I always say, good things are worth the wait. Nothing worse than rushed buggy software!

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 18:01

    look how long it took Jenson to get in an awesome car, I doubt all that waiting matters to him now he has it ;)

    He is nothing like Jenson Button... I've seen him run!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:02

    He is nothing like Jenson Button... I've seen him run!

    :D ! Is he as bad as Sutil? Oh wait, no-one's as bad as Sutil...are they?!

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 18:02

    He is nothing like Jenson Button... I've seen him run!

    Most of us have too :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 18:03

    look how long it took Jenson to get in an awesome car, I doubt all that waiting matters to him now he has it ;)

    Haha we should christen this version of live commenting the Jenson Button solution!

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 18:03

    Most of us have too :P

    Good point!

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:03

    Im loving these boxes, although im strangely hypnotised by the FBFB waiting for something magical to appear...

    not sure how soon that will happen. hopefully live by turkey. it's something that will be basic to begin with, and grow to become more important as time goes on.

    we'd welcome any ideas as to things that it can be used for too.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 18:04

    Haha we should christen this version of live commenting the Jenson Button solution!

    best not. i'll never get revision done if there is a jenson button commenting solution :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 18:05

    we'd welcome any ideas as to things that it can be used for too.

    Stats! I LOOOOVE DE STATS!

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 18:06

    we'd welcome any ideas as to things that it can be used for too.

    you could pilfer the BBC's live championship standings situation. nah not this year - no need! live timing could be done, it's fiddly but that's what I'd go for.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 18:06

    we'd welcome any ideas as to things that it can be used for too.

    Live FakeF1 twitter updates?

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:07

    Live FakeF1 twitter updates?

    ooh, interesting. the language might be a problem, but certainly if we can filter them.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:07

    we'd welcome any ideas as to things that it can be used for too.

    Current Daily thread topic/s?

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:07

    you could pilfer the BBC's live championship standings situation. nah not this year - no need! live timing could be done, it's fiddly but that's what I'd go for.

    bernie would have a fit wouldn't he? rather not get into trouble if we can help it ;)

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 18:07

    we'd welcome any ideas as to things that it can be used for too.

    Count on number of dads present at F1? Location of THAT woman?

    Who is this weeks Bernie's daughter? Cumulative hours of Amy's sleep?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 18:07

    Live FakeF1 twitter updates?

    twitter updates from the teams? they seem to get pasted into the convo anyway though...

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:08

    Current Daily thread topic/s?

    that could work well.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 18:08

    ooh, interesting. the language might be a problem, but certainly if we can filter them.

    Or the #F1 hashtag, if that isn't too fast-moving.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 18:08

    you could pilfer the BBC's live championship standings situation. nah not this year - no need! live timing could be done, it's fiddly but that's what I'd go for.

    Would that be allowed?

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 18:08

    bernie would have a fit wouldn't he? rather not get into trouble if we can help it ;)

    you mean i have to do it myself then? no worries. I've been looking to palm this job off ever since I arrived in SPC land.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 18:08

    we'd welcome any ideas as to things that it can be used for too.

    Twitpics or F1 pics?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 18:09

    twitter updates from the teams? they seem to get pasted into the convo anyway though...

    Then they'd work well. Save us having to paste them.

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:10

    you mean i have to do it myself then? no worries. I've been looking to palm this job off ever since I arrived in SPC land.

    i know!

    ;)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 18:11

    Right, that cup of tea..

  • Scott in Italy25/05/2009 at 18:12

    i know!

    ;) I'm looking to help others...and use others as well. i have some specs somewhere...

    night all. leaving the computer and go home. think it's still 32 Celsius outside though...not going to be pleasant...

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:12

    night all. leaving the computer and go home. think it's still 32 Celsius outside though...not going to be pleasant...

    see ya scott.

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 18:14

    night all. leaving the computer and go home. think it's still 32 Celsius outside though...not going to be pleasant...

    Night Scott

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 18:14

    Bye Scott

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:14

    Twitpics or F1 pics?

    ahh, interesting.

    Then they'd work well. Save us having to paste them.

    agreed. will have a think.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 18:19

    Theres a #fakeJakeH

    he's a bit rude though...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:22

    Theres a #fakeJakeH

    And I thought we'd seen it all with FakeSPC.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 18:23

    And I thought we'd seen it all with FakeSPC.

    theres one now?!

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 18:23

    And I thought we'd seen it all with FakeSPC.

    did anyone own up to that after?

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 18:24

    Has joe come out from under the sofa yet?

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:24

    Has joe come out from under the sofa yet?

    no word as yet, no.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 18:25

    did anyone own up to that after?

    http://twitter.com/sidepodcastchat

    http://twitter.com/sidepodcastping

    http://twitter.com/sidepodcasttalk

    Who are these?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:25

    Who are these?

    Holy heck...

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:26

    Who are these?

    they are us.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 18:26

    theres one now?!

    haha yep, i got an email the other day saying fakesidepodcast was following me on twitter :)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 18:27

    they are us.

    aah ok, got really confused!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:28

    they are us.

    So SPC has effectively 5 Twitter accounts? Good lord...

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:28

    they are us.

    aah ok, got really confused!

    sidepodping is the only one worth following at the moment - tells you when new posts are up.

    the plan is to send new comments over to twitter when they're published here. so you can follow in tweetdeck etc. it's difficult getting replies to work, so it's just something on the list at the moment.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 18:29

    did anyone own up to that after?

    nope.but they've only done 3 tweets so far.... maybe they got bored? ;)

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:29

    So SPC has effectively 5 Twitter accounts? Good lord...

    umm. we have @f1bigpicture and @f1minite too.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:29

    umm. we have @f1bigpicture and @f1minite too.

    So that's 7?!

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 18:29

    umm. we have @f1bigpicture and @f1minite too.

    He means @f1minute, of course.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 18:29

    the plan is to send new comments over to twitter when they're published here. so you can follow in tweetdeck etc. it's difficult getting replies to work, so it's just something on the list at the moment.

    Ahhh you're not going to turn your twitter account into a news feed are you?

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:29

    nope.but they've only done 3 tweets so far.... maybe they got bored? ;)

    was hoping they'd interact with the fake drivers. y'know go and interview them for a fakepodcast or something?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 18:29

    the plan is to send new comments over to twitter when they're published here. so you can follow in tweetdeck etc. it's difficult getting replies to work, so it's just something on the list at the moment.

    That could be overwhelming..

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:30

    So that's 7?!

    at least.

    they're free, does it matter?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 18:30

    sidepodping is the only one worth following at the moment - tells you when new posts are up.

    am following the equivalent on identi.ca :) it's very useful.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:30

    they're free, does it matter?

    No no, of course not! :)

    I'm just surprised you'd need that many. :P

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:31

    That could be overwhelming..

    it is. very.

    however, it means you could comment on spc via sms and other interesting things, so worth considering. but it's not a priority.

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:31

    No no, of course not! :)

    I'm just surprised you'd need that many. :P

    we have plans ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:31

    we have plans ;)

    Aha, gotcha ;)

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 18:32

    however, it means you could comment on spc via sms and other interesting things, so worth considering. but it's not a priority.

    Yeah that would be useful when you're out and about and don't have a fancy ipodphonething..

  • lou25/05/2009 at 18:33

    was hoping they'd interact with the fake drivers. y'know go and interview them for a fakepodcast or something?

    that would be brilliant, i hope whoever is doing it is better than lee :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:33

    that would be brilliant, i hope whoever is doing it is better than lee :D

    Wonder how long it'll be before there's a FakeLeeMck ;)

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:35

    Wonder how long it'll be before there's a FakeLeeMck ;)

    ahh, you know you want to...

  • me25/05/2009 at 18:36

    i found another twitter account:

    http://twitter.com/sidepodcastdrop

    seems to have stopped updating though :(

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:36

    ahh, you know you want to...

    Impersonating a fake woman isn't really my kinda thing unfortunately ;)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 18:37

    i'd love to do a fake twitter account, dont know who i'd do though

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 18:41

    i'd love to do a fake twitter account, dont know who i'd do though

    I dont think there is a fake ant davidson yet

  • lou25/05/2009 at 18:42

    I dont think there is a fake ant davidson yet

    there isn't?... i kinda assumed the must have been...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:42

    i'd love to do a fake twitter account, dont know who i'd do though

    Wait, I've got the perfect one! ;)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 18:45

    Wait, I've got the perfect one! ;)

    whoooo?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:48

    whoooo?

    You'll see ;)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 18:54

    You'll see ;)

    Fake Legard?

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 18:54

    Fake Legard?

    haha, that would be good

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 18:55

    haha, that would be good

    Would be better than the real thing :P

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 18:57

    You could have a fake Grosjean and spend your time winding up fakePiquet of fakeJacquesVilleneuve since he is talking about coming back.

    There is not a fakeNickFry that I am aware of and then there is fakeCharlieWhiting or even better fakeAlanDonnelly.

    There are many options.

    If you are feeling particularly brave there is no fake Franck or fake diGrassi.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 18:57

    so is there a fake version of every driver? i can't find a fake rubens which surprises me..

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:57

    The picture I've chosen's not showing up at all. Any idea why?

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 18:57

    Who did fakeTremayne?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 18:58

    Never mind, got it now.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 18:59

    The picture I've chosen's not showing up at all. Any idea why?

    dosent work for me either

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 19:00

    Right, mine is up. ;)

  • Chris25/05/2009 at 19:00

    Afternoon all.

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 19:01

    I've just been followed by FakeSebBuemisMum which is weird.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:01

    I've just been followed by FakeSebBuemisMum which is weird.

    hahaha, nicee

  • me25/05/2009 at 19:03

    Afternoon all.

    hey chris. how's tricks?

  • Chris25/05/2009 at 19:04

    hey chris. how's tricks?

    Not bad thanks. Loving the new LC! (having slight freezing issues while moving boxes about though. I blame my computer)

  • me25/05/2009 at 19:06

    Not bad thanks. Loving the new LC! (having slight freezing issues while moving boxes about though. I blame my computer)

    have you tried minimising first (little arrows top left)?

  • Chris25/05/2009 at 19:07

    have you tried minimising first (little arrows top left)?

    Nope. Will try that next time. Thanks!

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 19:08

    MrC what does the last polled thing in the bottom left mean?

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 19:09

    I've just been followed by FakeSebBuemisMum which is weird.

    I just have to follow her

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 19:10

    I spy fake Franck

    Very brave

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:11

    I spy fake Franck

    haha, that'll be scott then probably

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 19:11

    MrC what does the last polled thing in the bottom left mean?

    It is the last time comments were downloaded. All the live commenting solutions have them

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 19:11

    haha, that'll be scott then probably

    Huh?

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 19:12

    It is the last time comments were downloaded. All the live commenting solutions have them

    Thanks just hapened to be a very odd number, but i guess it all makes sense now

  • Chris25/05/2009 at 19:14

    I'm getting worried by all the swearing FakeJakeH is doing...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:14

    Huh?

    fakefrank?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 19:15

    fakefrank?

    I've done a fake somebody, but that's all I'm saying. Where's the fun in telling? :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 19:16

    fakefrank?

    I've done a fake somebody, but that's all I'm saying. Where's the fun in telling? :P

    FakeTheWiss?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 19:16

    FakeTheWiss?

    Hahaha!

  • me25/05/2009 at 19:21

    I'm getting worried by all the swearing FakeJakeH is doing...

    which is why twitter has the option to block people.

  • Chris25/05/2009 at 19:21

    which is why twitter has the option to block people.

    True...

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:22

    I'm getting worried by all the swearing FakeJakeH is doing...

    he is a bit rude tbh

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:25

    I've done a fake somebody, but that's all I'm saying. Where's the fun in telling? :P

    takerubens

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:25

    takerubens

    *fake

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 19:25

    I'm getting worried by all the swearing FakeJakeH is doing...

    he is a bit rude tbh

    Tell him to tone it down!

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 19:26

    I'm getting worried by all the swearing FakeJakeH is doing...

    Probably a play on his being a former goody-two-shows kids tv presenter?

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:26

    Tell him to tone it down!

    i shall send him a DM

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 19:27

    I'm getting worried by all the swearing FakeJakeH is doing...

    Probably a play on his being a former goody-two-shows kids tv presenter?

    I would say so - also he mentioned asking his mum for permission to do stuff...

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 19:30

    I'm getting worried by all the swearing FakeJakeH is doing...

    Probably a play on his being a former goody-two-shows kids tv presenter?

    I would say so - also he mentioned asking his mum for permission to do stuff...

    It's easily possible to do so without the swears.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:32

    It's easily possible to do so without the swears.

    FakeJakeH: Sorry for the foul mouth - my mum found out & now she's washing my mouth out with soap (Finally something worse than listening to @FakeEJ)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 19:35

    It's easily possible to do so without the swears.

    FakeJakeH: Sorry for the foul mouth - my mum found out & now she's washing my mouth out with soap (Finally something worse than listening to @FakeEJ)

    Hehe :)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 19:36

    FakeRubens is extreme to the max with his tweeting.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 19:46

    aww new live commenting live....thing went to sleep :) so doohickey is a her and lclt is a him?

  • Andy Taylor25/05/2009 at 19:47

    aww new live commenting live....thing went to sleep :) so doohickey is a her and lclt is a him?

    Bless

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 19:48

    aww new live commenting live....thing went to sleep :) so doohickey is a her and lclt is a him?

    I love how these new versions of the live commenting options go to sleep :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 19:56

    It's suddenly gone all quiet. :P

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 19:57

    I'm sorry, but this penalty is somewhat ridiculous.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75578

    Seems perfectly reasonable to me. The reason for the rule is that WRC rally drivers used to dive into th car after a wheel change etc ad drive off without fastening their belts to save time. They used to complete stages at full speed then fasten the belts at the end.

    The rule has to be black and white an not open to interpretation so it has to be that the belts can only be undone if the car is not moving. Anything else just leads to grey areas. If disqualififcation is the normal penalty he should have been disqualified. Th only reason he is undoing the belts before the car stops is to gain time.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 19:58

    Awwwwwww at Fake rubens bio...

    # Bio If anyone knows about following people it is me

    I shouldn't have laughed... :D

  • Christine25/05/2009 at 19:59

    aww new live commenting live....thing went to sleep :) so doohickey is a her and lclt is a him?

    That is correct. Cute, aren't they?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 20:00

    aww new live commenting live....thing went to sleep :) so doohickey is a her and lclt is a him?

    That is correct. Cute, aren't they?

    Because a her can multitask?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 20:01

    That is correct. Cute, aren't they?

    very cute! :D

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 20:01

    Because a her can multitask?

    And a him can do more?

    *Runs, Ducks, Hides, Disappears*

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 20:02

    Off-topic: apparently it's both Towel Day (to celebrate Douglas Adams) and Star Wars Day (to celebrate ...erm... Star Wars).

    I didn't know there was a towel day. Where is my towel? Panic!

  • Andy Taylor25/05/2009 at 20:02

    I shouldn't have laughed... :D

    Neither should I. That's very good.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:02

    I'm getting far too distracted watching twitter tonight from my revision... in fact my revision all day has been pathetic.

    bah :(

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 20:03

    I'm liking FakeMontagny's bio too:

    Giving it le beans in le Peugeot. Viva la France et Le Mans!

    :D

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 20:06

    I'm getting far too distracted watching twitter tonight from my revision... in fact my revision all day has been pathetic.

    Oh yeah.. I never started mine.. I should do that.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 20:09

    I'm liking FakeMontagny's bio too:

    Giving it le beans in le Peugeot. Viva la France et Le Mans!

    :D

    Boo. Tom K all the way!

  • lou25/05/2009 at 20:10

    Because a her can multitask?

    haha :D

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 20:15

    The rule has to be black and white an not open to interpretation so it has to be that the belts can only be undone if the car is not moving. Anything else just leads to grey areas. If disqualififcation is the normal penalty he should have been disqualified. Th only reason he is undoing the belts before the car stops is to gain time.

    Totally agree

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 20:16

    minor change to doohickey, if you refresh. you can now listen to podcasts in the lightboxy-active-thread-popup-window thing.

    Just found this. Fabulous

  • Andy Taylor25/05/2009 at 20:17

    Oh yeah.. I never started mine.. I should do that.

    Do you revising people all have Revision Timetables like Arnold Rimmer?

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 20:18

    Do you revising people all have Revision Timetables like Arnold Rimmer?

    i did for my first ever set of exams but cleverly never stuck to it, so now just revise as and when i want hehe

  • lou25/05/2009 at 20:18

    Do you revising people all have Revision Timetables like Arnold Rimmer?

    i never bother with revision timetables just cause it's so easy to procrastinate and make them really pretty etc.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:18

    Do you revising people all have Revision Timetables like Arnold Rimmer?

    I look at a book and hope that lasts for 10 minutes at least. It usually doesnt :(

  • Andy Taylor25/05/2009 at 20:20

    i never bother with revision timetables just cause it's so easy to procrastinate and make them really pretty etc.

    That was Rimmer's problem, he once spent 7 weeks making the timetable and had to do all his revision in one night. Another time he put two Septembers in by mistake....

  • lou25/05/2009 at 20:32

    ahaha i just got a little confused between fakesidepodcast on twitter and Mr C as their icons are really similar. lol i thought MrC had a bit of a man crush on Franck for a second. lol :D

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 20:34

    Do you revising people all have Revision Timetables like Arnold Rimmer?

    Never have, never will..

  • Andy Taylor25/05/2009 at 20:35

    ahaha i just got a little confused between fakesidepodcast on twitter and Mr C as their icons are really similar. lol i thought MrC had a bit of a man crush on Franck for a second. lol :D

    Hehe.

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:37

    ahaha i just got a little confused between fakesidepodcast on twitter and Mr C as their icons are really similar. lol i thought MrC had a bit of a man crush on Franck for a second. lol :D

    Yeah, the 'yum' caught me off guard a little too..

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 20:38

    in my house we celebrate the real meaning of it, so it's alot more fun

    Nope, never heard of the 21st before.

    I thought the real Xmas was January 6th

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 20:41

    in my house we celebrate the real meaning of it, so it's alot more fun

    Nope, never heard of the 21st before.

    I thought the real Xmas was January 6th

    Hmm don't know about that but in Italy you're supposed to get your presents from the Christmas witch then...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 20:42

    I wonder if Steven is using the new Live Commenting thingy yet seeing as he's on this morning's posts???

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 20:42

    Yeah, the 'yum' caught me off guard a little too..

    I thought Christine had acquired control of the sidepodcast account for a second. Didn't notice it was the fake. Mind you half the time I mistake Amy for fakeHeikki so I am easily confused.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 20:43

    I wonder if Steven is using the new Live Commenting thingy yet seeing as he's on this morning's posts???

    and the doohickey for real time. Sneaky huh?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 20:43

    I wonder if Steven is using the new Live Commenting thingy yet seeing as he's on this morning's posts???

    and the doohickey for real time. Sneaky huh?

    That's weird ... it's like you're in two places at once???

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:45

    That's weird ... it's like you're in two places at once???

    The world as we know is being sucked into a supermassive black hole because of this

  • lou25/05/2009 at 20:45

    The world as we know is being sucked into a supermassive black hole because of this

    loving the muse reference there Lukeh ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 20:45

    That's weird ... it's like you're in two places at once???

    The world as we know is being sucked into a supermassive black hole because of this

    Bleh. Obligatory Muse reference. Was Two montages not enough for you last weekend?

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 20:46

    I thought the real Xmas was January 6th

    The Orthodox one is, yes... although its the 7th rather than the 6th (which is epiphany).

    (6th was the day that harold was crowned king in 1066 though :-) )

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:46

    Bleh. Obligatory Muse reference. Was Two montages not enough for you last weekend?

    Can't get enough me. ;)

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 20:47

    That's weird ... it's like you're in two places at once???

    Amy allowe me to use some of her Borg technology but says not to worry I have not been assimilated. Apparently it is quite normaly to hear other voices.

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 20:51

    That's weird ... it's like you're in two places at once???

    I was going to make some quantum mechanics related joke... But then realized that a) few would have understood it, ending in worst faces than the F1 jokes in non-F1 environment, and b) I couldn't come up with a good one anyway :P

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:51

    Oooh Darren Heath's big picture is up on BBCF1. Squiggly stuff.

    Wonder if his website photos are up then...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 20:51

    So I'm thinking of getting an iPhone on an O2 contract. Good move or bad move?

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:52

    Wonder if his website photos are up then...

    Awesome, they are :)

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:52

    Bah ignore me, I clicked Spain.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 20:52

    So I'm thinking of getting an iPhone on an O2 contract. Good move or bad move?

    o2 have been great for me, and i've never heard of any complaints of iphones

  • lou25/05/2009 at 20:52

    Awesome, they are :)

    really? they usually go up on the tuesday. yay! *runs over to Darren's site*

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 20:53

    So I'm thinking of getting an iPhone on an O2 contract. Good move or bad move?

    I think the new one comes out next month, i guess the current one will get a lot cheaper

  • lou25/05/2009 at 20:53

    Bah ignore me, I clicked Spain.

    lol *runs back* check again tomorrow ;)

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:53

    really? they usually go up on the tuesday. yay! *runs over to Darren's site*

    *hides for when you realise i clicked on wrong race*

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 20:53

    I think the new one comes out next month, i guess the current one will get a lot cheaper

    Comes out 17th July.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 20:54

    BBC f1 photo has a typo in the first line:

    "Jarno Trulli speeding along the streets of Monte Carlo"

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 20:55

    "Jarno Trulli speeding along the streets of Monte Carlo"

    I see no typo. Unless you mean Monte Carlo instead of Monaco.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 20:56

    I see no typo. Unless you mean Monte Carlo instead of Monaco.

    which is technically right

  • lou25/05/2009 at 20:56

    o2 have been great for me, and i've never heard of any complaints of iphones

    depends where you live, when Dad was on O2 he couldn't get any signal at home at all. they were great when it worked though :)

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 20:56

    I see no typo. Unless you mean Monte Carlo instead of Monaco.

    Speeding?

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:56

    "Jarno Trulli speeding along the streets of Monte Carlo"

    Jarno? speeding?

    I'm guessing thats it

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 20:56

    Yay!

    Go Trulli train jokes!

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 20:57

    which is technically right

    Well, not to stir up an argument but Monaco is the "country" and Monte Carlo's the town/city name.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 20:57

    depends where you live, when Dad was on O2 he couldn't get any signal at home at all. they were great when it worked though :)

    oh yeah, signal. forgot about that lol.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 20:57

    Go Trulli train jokes!

    One downside of being right at the back is the lack of a truli train.

    Monte Carlo is just the hill

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 20:58

    So I'm thinking of getting an iPhone on an O2 contract. Good move or bad move?

    Two days ago you didin't want to buy a t shirt because you were saving money and now you are going to blow £300 on a phone

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 20:58

    Here's some info on the iPhone 2009

    http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_2009_comes_on_17_july_oled_display_on_board-news-917.php

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 20:58

    Update from Vitor Meira, the guy with the damaged vertabrae at Indy - he's out for 6-8 months.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 20:58

    Two days ago you didin't want to buy a t shirt because you were saving money and now you are going to blow £300 on a phone

    It's only £35 a month on the contract I'm looking at and the phone comes free.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 21:00

    Update from Vitor Meira, the guy with the damaged vertabrae at Indy - he's out for 6-8 months.

    Bugger :(

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 21:00

    It's only £35 a month on the contract I'm looking at and the phone comes free.

    Thats quite a lot 3 gave me a free phone on a 6 month contract with internet at £15 a month.

    I fond the shops had far better deals than online, which is the opposite of how it used to be...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 21:01

    Thats quite a lot 3 gave me a free phone on a 6 month contract with internet at £15 a month.

    It's £35 for 24 months by the way.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 21:02

    I fond the shops had far better deals than online, which is the opposite of how it used to be...

    I'll have a look in the O2 store in Chapelfield and speak to them there. See if I can get a deal or something since I work for a company who repairs their phones!

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:02

    It's only £35 a month on the contract I'm looking at and the phone comes free.

    Which is over £400 a year. That is 18-20 driving lessons or half of what most people take

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 21:03

    I find £35 is a lot..

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:03

    It's £35 for 24 months by the way.

    £840

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 21:04

    It's only £35 a month on the contract I'm looking at and the phone comes free.

    What do you need minutes/texts?

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:05

    I find £35 is a lot..

    I pay £35 a month with Orange and I get free unlimited internet and free 24 hour a day phone calls to about 100 countries from home. Of course I don't get the iphone but I cope

  • lou25/05/2009 at 21:06

    It's only £35 a month on the contract I'm looking at and the phone comes free.

    £35 a month?! what do you get with it. my contract is £15 a month, i get unlimeted texts and 400 free minutes a month. It's a 18month contract and when i signed up i got a phone (and lovely phone it is too) for an extra £50 (much less than it's actually worth). £35 a month seems a little expensive...

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 21:07

    Which is over £400 a year. That is 18-20 driving lessons or half of what most people take

    My driving lessons would come free. How? My aunt and uncle run 5DAY, an intensive driving lesson course. They're prepared to give me a course that's already been booked if and when that person who booked it pulls out, essentially giving me a free course because the instructor's already been paid up. So all I have to pay for is the test.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)25/05/2009 at 21:07

    Good night all :)

  • lou25/05/2009 at 21:08

    I pay £35 a month with Orange and I get free unlimited internet and free 24 hour a day phone calls to about 100 countries from home. Of course I don't get the iphone but I cope

    i think Dad has the same deal as that. Orange customer services can be good too (if you get through to one of the two english call centres.)

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:09

    sidepodspace - The Russian version

    The next permanent crew to the ISS will as usual use the Soyuz. They are due to launch on May 27th. Pictures of the Soyuz being prepared and transported to the launch site can be seen at the following link.

    http://www.space.gs/news/?p=1803

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 21:10

    The contract I'm looking at gives me:

    600 minutes

    500 texts

    Unlimited data and Wi-Fi

    Visual voicemail

    Reduced roaming rates

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 21:11

    What on earth is visual voicemail?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 21:11

    What on earth is visual voicemail?

    Leaving a video message, I assume.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:12

    i think Dad has the same deal as that. Orange customer services can be good too (if you get through to one of the two english call centres.)

    I haven't had a single problem with Orange.

    My previous phone was with O2 and their customer service was rubbish. I spoke to a mate whose business dealt with O2 and he said that their customer service with businesses was no better.

    It really annoys me that all these deals are in place to stop people having the phone they want on the network they want.

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 21:12

    What on earth is visual voicemail?

    Ah, ok the goggle tells me it inst what i feared, just a menu to retrieve messages

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 21:13

    It really annoys me that all these deals are in place to stop people having the phone they want on the network they want.

    Apparently because the new iPhone is coming out, O2's exclusivity ends this summer.

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 21:13

    Um

    Have a look at it on PAYG - in the longer term it works out rather cheaper, even paying for the phone, unless you are planning to make a *lot* of calls from it, or go overseas.

    And get it from apple and *buy the applecare* (and yes, I know I'm technically biased, except that do note that himself is being very quiet on this thread.... and no, we don't have one)

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:14

    In the end it comes down to how much of the functionality of the iphone you will use against what else you can use the balance of £840 for

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 21:15

    In the end it comes down to how much of the functionality of the iphone you will use against what else you can use the balance of £840 for

    Essentially I'd want the cheapest contract but with more minutes. I'd never use 600, but then 75 minutes a month won't exactly get me far either.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 21:16

    I'm paying £17 per month for 75 mins and 200 texts.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 21:16

    It really annoys me that all these deals are in place to stop people having the phone they want on the network they want.

    yeah that annoys me too. But your right Orange are very good, as are orange wednesdays :) we've only had a few problems with our internet and each time orange have been very helpful in fixing it. We originally had BT broadband and they treated us very very badly so when we switched to orange we were pleasantly surprised.

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 21:17

    yeah that annoys me too. But your right Orange are very good, as are orange wednesdays :) we've only had a few problems with our internet and each time orange have been very helpful in fixing it. We originally had BT broadband and they treated us very very badly so when we switched to orange we were pleasantly surprised.

    I'm surprised because when they were Freeserve and then Wanadoo they were bloody awful.

  • lou25/05/2009 at 21:18

    I'm surprised because when they were Freeserve and then Wanadoo they were bloody awful.

    we had freeserve dial up lol but then again we didn't use the internet much back then.

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:19

    we had freeserve dial up lol but then again we didn't use the internet much back then.

    I remember when I could go for more than an hour without using the internet. The world is a better place now

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 21:30

    I remember when I could go for more than an hour without using the internet. The world is a better place now

    erk!

    I had dial up - but it just meant that I didn't have to take phone calls (vrf) although that could be said to be a disadvantage of unlimited calling services.....

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:40

    Has someone declared a sidepodcast holiday and not told me?

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 21:41

    I was just wondering that...

    Or are people just trying out old dial up accounts ...

    ...oh... Twitter?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 21:42

    Has someone declared a sidepodcast holiday and not told me?

    no...sadly not. what makes you say there is a sidepodcast holiday?

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:43

    ...oh... Twitter?

    Twitter is incredibly quiet too

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 21:43

    no...sadly not. what makes you say there is a sidepodcast holiday?

    It's so quiet

  • lou25/05/2009 at 21:43

    i'm around just listening to lots of tim minchin, i don't really have much to say other than tim minchin is very funny... sooo how is everyone this evening?

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 21:43

    I'm looking at a simulation paper for my 'drafting financial statements' unit..

  • Pat W25/05/2009 at 21:45

    I was flicking through it near the computer, I should move over to the desk and finish it..

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 21:45

    I'm watching live videos on Youtube of Mu...a band.

  • me25/05/2009 at 21:45

    I'm watching live videos on Youtube of Mu...a band.

    :D

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 21:47

    I'm attempting to get someones address to send them a card without seeming like a stalking....hmm

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 21:47

    I'm attempting to get someones address to send them a card without seeming like a stalking....hmm

    *like i'm a stalker

  • guille230625/05/2009 at 21:47

    I'm solving some exercises with the Doohickey open...

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 21:47

    I'm watching live videos on Youtube of Mu...a band.

    Why all coy all of a sudden?

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 21:48

    Why all coy all of a sudden?

    I talk about said band too much!

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 21:49

    Im about to start GP+

    Autosport did have a good story in paddock life about journo's being tricked to run around Monaco http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/75633 maybe that's why joe wasn't available

  • littlepurplegoth25/05/2009 at 21:50

    I talk about said band too much!

    Do you? I hadn't noticed :-)

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 22:04

    Do you? I hadn't noticed :-)

    I try my best not too mention them too much because I've annoyed far too many people by not shutting up :( not my fault!

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 22:08

    And my family have finally left. :D

    Huzzah!

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 22:11

    And my family have finally left. :D

    Huzzah!

    Don't you like them?

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 22:12

    Don't you like them?

    Oh they're lovely.

    When they're across the other side of the country.

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 22:13

    When they're across the other side of the country.

    That's a bit harsh, isn't it?

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 22:15

    When they're across the other side of the country.

    I don't think i could cope with mine being that close!

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 22:16

    Some things are just too odd. Fake Piquet jr is having an argument with fake Tatohead;s mum

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 22:16

    Some things are just too odd. Fake Piquet jr is having an argument with fake Tatohead;s mum

    Hehehe.

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 22:16

    That's a bit harsh, isn't it?

    I can take them in short bursts. When I go to Norfolk for the weekend I spend most of the time out and about.

    I don't think i could cope with mine being that close!

    LOL!

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 22:17

    Some things are just too odd. Fake Piquet jr is having an argument with fake Tatohead;s mum

    He was having an argument earlier with Rubens too which made me a happy panda

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 22:17

    Riiiightey ho! Finally worked out who i'm voting for in the euro's. That took along time lol!

    We all having a fun evening?

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 22:18

    We all having a fun evening?

    There's been an influx of new fake drivers on Twitter. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 22:19

    FakeMontagny communicating with FakeSPC, I see. :D

  • lou25/05/2009 at 22:21

    He was having an argument earlier with Rubens too which made me a happy panda

    did fakerubens win the arguement?

  • lou25/05/2009 at 22:22

    We all having a fun evening?

    i think so... i'm not sure tbh.. i feel like i've forgotten to do something today, but i can't think of what it could be.

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 22:22

    haha they'res a faketremayne!

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 22:24

    did fakerubens win the arguement?

    I can't remember who won (Rubens I'm sure :P) but I remember FakePiq saying 'Oh even the best drievrs can come last' and fake Rubens replied 'Yes well when you stop spinning you can find out'

    That made me laugh so much when it popped up.. and that jenson button twit pic :D

  • lou25/05/2009 at 22:25

    That made me laugh so much when it popped up.. and that jenson button twit pic :D

    :D

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 22:25

    That made me laugh so much when it popped up.. and that jenson button twit pic :D

    Not to mention "Jenson Powers" earlier on today ;) :D

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 22:26

    Not to mention "Jenson Powers" earlier on today ;) :D

    I still can't explain how I managed to make that and not see the typo 'MONABY' in giant letters at the top..

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 22:27

    I still can't explain how I managed to make that and not see the typo 'MONABY' in giant letters at the top..

    Nevertheless, it's still bloomin' hilarious :D

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 22:29

    Aw man, drop.io have taken off the links at the top of the pages... that was really useful to get back to the main sidepodcast page with a click

  • Lukeh25/05/2009 at 22:35

    Heading off so I'll see you guys tomorrow :)

    night!

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 22:35

    night!

    night!

  • lou25/05/2009 at 22:37

    night!

    night!

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 22:37

    night

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:22

    Alianora, if your post trawling and catch this later on in the morning

    [and other UK Force India fans]

    I heard on Thursday's pre-Monaco Telegraph F1 podcast that they are giving away a signed [Fisi?] FI cap to one lucky listener. Think you just have to email the show

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:34

    Alianora, if your post trawling...

    *you're*

    [Blushes, RG's gonna milk that if he spots it ;) ]

  • Nick25/05/2009 at 23:58

    [Blushes, RG's gonna milk that if he spots it ;) ]

    It took you 12 mins to spot it? :P

    Amy will be pleased, there is a pic in GP+ of 2 fins (Hekki and Kimi) Both smiling!

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:11

    It took you 12 mins to spot it? :P

    Yeah, I only went back to read the last dozen or so comments :)

    At least I caught my own mistake, damn that lack of edit button on Desktop Doohickey

    [Yeah, yeah, on the list]