For those of us that enjoyed a bank holiday yesterday, it's straight back into the working week now. Nevertheless, there is plenty going on this week for us to discuss, and here are some of the things we've been talking about recently:

  • Mr C has been working hard on the new version of the Live Commenting, Live... Thing. There's a lot of detail on the introductory post, however I can preface it with this: it's awesome. Basically, you have each section in moveable boxes and you can decide what you want where. Check it out now.
  • The Circuit Character Cup has begun, and you can still vote on the two initial matchups. New posts will go up each day at 9pm, meaning you have 24 hours to vote on each one. The first blog post sees Monza against Shanghai and Interlagos against Valencia. I know who my money's on for both matchups. Get voting now.
  • Finally, Shaun has a great post on his site which talks about how hard it is to compare the greats to the current batch of F1 drivers, particularly Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton. It's possibly a controversial topic, but the best ones are, aren't they?

That'll do it for now. Keep your thoughts coming on the new LCLT as it's early days yet and we're hoping to improve it as time goes on. As usual, I'll see you in the comments.

1011 responses

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 23:24

    Ooooh... Fancy, this new LCLT. :D Very fancy.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:27

    Ooooh... Fancy, this new LCLT. :D Very fancy.

    Did a little hiccup for a bit when I tried to open it in FF3

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/new-lclt-pop-up-jpg

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:27

    Hello Journeyer

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 23:29

    Did a little hiccup for a bit when I tried to open it in FF3

    Hmmm... That happens to me often on the Doohickey when I have too many tabs open. :D May just be that it eats up too much resources right now?

    Hello Bassano. :)

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 23:29

    Did a little hiccup for a bit when I tried to open it in FF3

    Kathi, Lou and I have all had that. If you click the stop script button everything seems to work fine

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 23:30

    Kathi, Lou and I have all had that. If you click the stop script button everything seems to work fine

    So what's the script running then?

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:30

    Kathi, Lou and I have all had that. If you click the stop script button everything seems to work fine

    I hit continue and left it to work through it, came back after checking my mail and it was fine. Will see if it occurs next time

    Thanks for the heads up

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:31

    So what's the script running then?

    Probably that movable boxes thing

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:32

    Hmmm... That happens to me often on the Doohickey when I have too many tabs open. :D May just be that it eats up too much resources right now?

    Had just opened Firefox and was only the 3rd tab for me

    [I'm usually way into double figures]

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 23:32

    I hit continue and left it to work through it, came back after checking my mail and it was fine. Will see if it occurs next time

    That's what I normally do too. Hehe. Very, very nice, Mr C. Loving it. :D Will stick with LCLT for a day or three. ;)

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:32

    So what's the latest today, anything new apart from Williams' submission?

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 23:33

    So what's the script running then?

    No good asking me techical questions. The only thing I know id if I switch to a thread with no or few comments I don't get the script error. If there are a lot of comments I get it.

  • Flibster25/05/2009 at 23:33

    Silly little thing - but a bargain if you don't have it already.

    TOCA Race Driver 3 for the PC. £5

    Limited time only at www.gog.com - I've used them for a while - they'r trustworthy.

    It's a 5gb download though with no DRM at all. :D

  • Steven Roy25/05/2009 at 23:34

    So what's the latest today, anything new apart from Williams' submission?

    No news on anything that I have seen

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:35

    No news on anything that I have seen

    No more yacht meetings then

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 23:37

    No good asking me techical questions. The only thing I know id if I switch to a thread with no or few comments I don't get the script error. If there are a lot of comments I get it.

    Hmmm... Interesting. Must be the comments-loading script then...

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:37

    I see Ed Gorman reads SPC too.

    Talking about Lou's least favourite fashion accessory, Kimi's hat

    http://timesonline.typepad.com/formula_one/2009/05/notes-from-monaco.html

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 23:43

    Right, off to sleep now. I can afford a small lie-in tomorrow, I'm in from 11-8. Still gotta get up at 7 to get ready, then walk up to the train station, grab my train, then walk up to catch my bus to get to work.

    Yup, up for 4 hours before I've even started. It's gonna be a loooooong day. Night!

  • Journeyer25/05/2009 at 23:44

    Yup, up for 4 hours before I've even started. It's gonna be a loooooong day. Night!

    Night Scott. :)

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:45

    Yup, up for 4 hours before I've even started. It's gonna be a loooooong day. Night!

    G'night Scott, maybe you need a bike ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss25/05/2009 at 23:46

    G'night Scott, maybe you need a bike ;)

    I do have one, but I need to get it fixed. Must do that soon, actually. Will help shave some time off the commute!

  • lou25/05/2009 at 23:46

    night scott.

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:47

    Lou, have just tweeted you re: Ed Gorman stealing your thoughts

  • lou25/05/2009 at 23:48

    Lou, have just tweeted you re: Ed Gorman stealing your thoughts

    hehe i thought i replied? maybe not... could be twihrl going funny again...

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:49

    hehe i thought i replied? maybe not... could be twihrl going funny again...

    Am trying out a new Twitter client and may not have the check for replies intervals perfect yet

  • Bassano Clapper25/05/2009 at 23:50

    Am trying out a new Twitter client and may not have the check for replies intervals perfect yet

    Ah, there it is :)

  • lou25/05/2009 at 23:52

    Ah, there it is :)

    :)

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 23:54

    why am i still awaakee!!!

    this is a good film but its not THAT good

  • lou25/05/2009 at 23:57

    this is a good film but its not THAT good

    i've probably missed it, but what film are you watching?

  • Jon Waldock25/05/2009 at 23:59

    i've probably missed it, but what film are you watching?

    its called 'two for the money' bbc1.

    its why gambling dosent pay personified

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:00

    its why gambling dosent pay personified

    ooh right..

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:01

    ooh right..

    random film, but its alright.

    plus ive got the last 40 minutes of Silverstone LMS commentary to listen to aswell lol.

    i think thats going to have to wait for tomorrow

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:06

    i think thats going to have to wait for tomorrow

    i feel really awake tonight, and it's so muggy as well.. i really should go to sleep but i feel like i'll just be laying there awake :s

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:09

    i feel really awake tonight, and it's so muggy as well.. i really should go to sleep but i feel like i'll just be laying there awake :s

    go to bed, and count sheep :P

    nah, stretching works for me,lie down then start at the top and stretch every muscle down your body, hold it for like 20 seconds, by the time you get down and back up again you'll feel so tired you'll fall asleep.

    oooor, try as hard as possible to keep your eyes open and stay awake, eventually you fall asleep through concentration...

    can you tell im an insomniac? lol

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:12

    i feel really awake tonight, and it's so muggy as well..

    Had some very light rain in London and it's cooled things down a little, maybe it's headed your way

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:14

    can you tell im an insomniac? lol

    I put something on the TV with the timer. Has to be something I've seen before with no loud noises. Old West Wing or Studio 60 has been great for me recently

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:14

    Had some very light rain in London and it's cooled things down a little, maybe it's headed your way

    we've had a storm already, but it's still really muggy :s

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:15

    Ahh.. so this is where everyone was hiding, i have become too used to the doohicky, and forgot about a new thread at midnight...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:15

    I put something on the TV with the timer. Has to be something I've seen before with no loud noises. Old West Wing or Studio 60 has been great for me recently

    last night i had the debrief, worked perfectly

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:16

    Ahh.. so this is where everyone was hiding, i have become too used to the doohicky, and forgot about a new thread at midnight...

    Desktop Doohickey still roolz for me but it's nice to have options

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:16

    can you tell im an insomniac? lol

    haha lol a few years back i had really bad insomnia, normally i can't sleep now if something is praying on my mind or i feel like i should be doing something. tonight though i just feel a bit restless...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:16

    Desktop Doohickey still roolz for me but it's nice to have options

    agreed

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:17

    I put something on the TV with the timer. Has to be something I've seen before with no loud noises. Old West Wing or Studio 60 has been great for me recently

    i'm the same with podcasts...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:17

    haha lol a few years back i had really bad insomnia, normally i can't sleep now if something is praying on my mind or i feel like i should be doing something. tonight though i just feel a bit restless...

    happens to the best of us, i've been put on melatonin, it's basically a relaxant thats already naturally in the body so you can't get addicted, seems to work quite well generally.

  • Dreary26/05/2009 at 00:18

    This is a very elegant little interface. Well done, Mr C.

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:19

    i'm the same with podcasts...

    I tried music but it just made me tap along or sing to itin my head.

    Unless it's Sigur Ros or Mogwai

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:20

    I tried music but it just made me tap along or sing to itin my head.

    I'm ashamed to say....that i have a playlist that i sometimes use made up of 5 songs....all from HSM3....works a treat! It's never failed lol

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:21

    This is a very elegant little interface. Well done, Mr C.

    Hey Dreary! Yup, I agree. :D It actually reminds me of the home page of... Windows Live. :P

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:22

    happens to the best of us, i've been put on melatonin, it's basically a relaxant thats already naturally in the body so you can't get addicted, seems to work quite well generally.

    When I was on 7 day shift patterns I used to take Nytol once every 3 weeks before my first early shift, eases you into drowsiness but can easily fight it if you want or need to. Recommend it only for short periods of sleeplessness though

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:22

    I'm ashamed to say....that i have a playlist that i sometimes use made up of 5 songs....all from HSM3....works a treat! It's never failed lol

    Yeah, I'd keep that quiet if I were you ;)

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:23

    Hey Dreary! Yup, I agree. :D It actually reminds me of the home page of... Windows Live. :P

    Gaaaaaah, run! :D

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:23

    Yeah, I'd keep that quiet if I were you ;)

    :D

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:23

    Random F1 point... Monnaco is really hard on the gearboxes, and since most of the drivers will be on the 2ns race for the gearboxes, we could see a lot of replacements coming in for Istanbul and Silverstone.. either that or retirements

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:24

    I'm ashamed to say....that i have a playlist that i sometimes use made up of 5 songs....all from HSM3....works a treat! It's never failed lol

    hahah :D well it's good it works... i've not see a single HSM film i've not even heard one song all the way through and i intend it to stay that way :D

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:24

    This is a very elegant little interface. Well done, Mr C.

    There's a name I've not seen before, hello Sir (or madam ;) )

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:25

    Gaaaaaah, run! :D

    Haha! :P

    Random F1 point... [Monaco] is really hard on the gearboxes, and since most of the drivers will be on the [2nd] race for the gearboxes, we could see a lot of replacements coming in for Istanbul and Silverstone.. either that or retirements

    Hmmm... We might see a couple, but not a lot. Most gearboxes can easily do 3-4 race weekends now, even if one of them is Monaco. :D

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:25

    hahah :D well it's good it works... i've not see a single HSM film i've not even heard one song all the way through and i intend it to stay that way :D

    NO WAY?!!? i'm a tiny bit impressed, i don't know anyone who hasn't seen atleast one of them, or been dragged to see, or been force-listened to some songs.

    wow, just wow

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:26

    wow, just wow

    Me too, never have, most likely never will

    [keeps fingers crossed]

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:27

    wow, just wow

    Club!

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:27

    Hmmm... We might see a couple, but not a lot. Most gearboxes can easily do 3-4 race weekends now, even if one of them is Monaco. :D

    what i don't get, is that you can replace all the gears in the gearbox and not get a penalty, but when i've rebuilt gearbox's the only other thing apart from gears is bearings, and a whole lot of oil, so why would you replace the whole gearbox beacuse you're basically getting a penalty for changing the gearbox casing?

    i know road car and f1 gearboxes are alot different, but the principles the same

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:27

    Me too, never have, most likely never will

    [keeps fingers crossed]

    gooo onnnn, you know you want too ;)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:28

    hahah :D well it's good it works... i've not see a single HSM film i've not even heard one song all the way through and i intend it to stay that way :D

    when you're not exposed to HSM and you didn't know what happened in Star Wars until we talked about it, that probably means you need to go to the cinemas more. :P

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:28

    wow, just wow

    haha my friends that like HSM know that them forcing me to see a film would result in me not being very happy at all. they have tried to force me before but i can be pretty stubborn...

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:28

    gooo onnnn, you know you want too ;)

    Hmmmm, not really

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:29

    i know road car and f1 gearboxes are alot different, but the principles the same

    I guess they have to replace it after an impact, like hamiltons, but what about the clutch components, i know nothing of engineering, but are they included?

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:29

    haha my friends that like HSM know that them forcing me to see a film would result in me not being very happy at all. they have tried to force me before but i can be pretty stubborn...

    i think you'd like it, atleast no loathe it. aslong as you accept that it's horribly cheeeeseeeey then all is good

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:30

    what i don't get, is that you can replace all the gears in the gearbox and not get a penalty, but when i've rebuilt gearbox's the only other thing apart from gears is bearings, and a whole lot of oil, so why would you replace the whole gearbox beacuse you're basically getting a penalty for changing the gearbox casing?

    Very good question. Not sure why this is the case, but I suspect they're only allowed to change 1 or 2 gears at any given time. If you need to change any more gears, you'd have to replace the whole thing instead...

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:30

    when you're not exposed to HSM and you didn't know what happened in Star Wars until we talked about it, that probably means you need to go to the cinemas more. :P

    You cant compare HSM to Star Wars!!!

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:30

    i know road car and f1 gearboxes are alot different, but the principles the same

    Easier to change a gearbox assembly in a hurry during a session but could be hydraulic leak, cracked casing from impact. Many things

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:30

    I guess they have to replace it after an impact, like hamiltons, but what about the clutch components, i know nothing of engineering, but are they included?

    ooh dont know, wouldnt have thought so.

    on the crash front, gearbox's are part of the rearcrash structure, the whole rear suspension is mounted off them, so you could have a point there

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:30

    I guess they have to replace it after an impact, like hamiltons, but what about the clutch components, i know nothing of engineering, but are they included?

    we don't have a clutch pedal, but is there an electronic equivalent? i wouldn't think it's included, but i could be wrong...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:30

    You cant compare HSM to Star Wars!!!

    S'all cool runnings to me ;)

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:31

    when you're not exposed to HSM and you didn't know what happened in Star Wars until we talked about it, that probably means you need to go to the cinemas more. :P

    haha when i was younger i didn't go to the cinema much so didn't see star wars... and HSM really isn't my type of film at all. I have to be in the right mood for cheesy american films.... sometimes my friends force me to see some of the really badly made rom coms, but they know that they aren't my favourite genre of film.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:31

    You cant compare HSM to Star Wars!!!

    They're both pop culture phenomena that everyone's watched! A fair comparison. :D

    S'all cool runnings to me ;)

    Hahaha! :P

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:31

    rom coms, Lou? You mean chick flicks. :P

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:31

    You cant compare HSM to Star Wars!!!

    But Star Wars and Cool Runnings is OK?

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:32

    But Star Wars and Cool Runnings is OK?

    Yes... Both highly quotable..manly films

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:32

    But Star Wars and Cool Runnings is OK?

    the man has a point

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:32

    i think you'd like it, atleast no loathe it. aslong as you accept that it's horribly cheeeeseeeey then all is good

    horribly cheesy songs and people jumping and dancing around a school is not my kinda film sadly... i'd prefer to watch a film like the painist or cool runnings :P

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:33

    horribly cheesy songs and people jumping and dancing around a school is not my kinda film sadly... i'd prefer to watch a film like the painist or cool runnings :P

    *pianist

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:33

    Yes... Both highly quotable..manly films

    Manly films... Rambo is a manly film. :P

    horribly cheesy songs and people jumping and dancing around a school is not my kinda film sadly... i'd prefer to watch a film like the painist or cool runnings :P

    the painist! did he hurt the pianist? :P

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:34

    I really dislike musicals, was so peeved when I found out Sweeney Todd was a Tim Burton musical. Stop singing and get on with the film puh-leeease

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:34

    Manly films... Rambo is a manly film. :P

    Son of Rambow is much better

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:35

    I really dislike musicals, was so peeved when I found out Sweeney Todd was a Tim Burton musical. Stop singing and get on with the film puh-leeease

    Not a fan of Mamma Mia, Hairspray, or Footloose then?

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:36

    Not a fan of Mamma Mia, Hairspray, or Footloose then?

    Have heard Mamma Mia is so bad it's good, just not for the right reasons

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:36

    horribly cheesy songs and people jumping and dancing around a school is not my kinda film sadly... i'd prefer to watch a film like the painist or cool runnings :P

    wait wait wait, you won't watch high school kids singing/dancing, but you will watch 4 guys from jamaica in lycra in a bobsleigh...

    hmm

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:37

    rom coms, Lou? You mean chick flicks. :P

    haha i'm not the average girl who likes watching cheesy romantic comedies all the time. they get boring and very predictable. lol they are alright, but as i say i'd rather watch a better film. :P

  • me26/05/2009 at 00:37

    This is a very elegant little interface. Well done, Mr C.

    cheers dreary, cheers all.

    So what's the script running then?

    Probably that movable boxes thing

    it's just struggling with squeezing the comments in a box that is not only resizable and scrollable, but also movable.

    should be fine on a new daily thread, no? when there's just a few comments it's fine. 500+ and i'm seeing issues.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:37

    Have heard Mamma Mia is so bad it's good, just not for the right reasons

    Hahaha! It's cheesiness at its best. :D

    wait wait wait, you won't watch high school kids singing/dancing, but you will watch 4 guys from jamaica in lycra in a bobsleigh...

    :D

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:38

    haha i'm not the average girl who likes watching cheesy romantic comedies all the time. they get boring and very predictable. lol they are alright, but as i say i'd rather watch a better film. :P

    wow, you really aren't the average girl lol

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:38

    wait wait wait, you won't watch high school kids singing/dancing, but you will watch 4 guys from jamaica in lycra in a bobsleigh...

    But I see Passion, I see Pride, I see...

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 00:39

    You cant compare HSM to Star Wars!!!

    You would be surprised at how some of us can compare films

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:39

    But I see Passion, I see Pride, I see...

    Myself going to sleep before i start saying...

    "feel the rhythm

    feel the rhym

    give it up its bobsleigh time

    COOL RUNNINGS"

    in my sleep....

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 00:40

    we don't have a clutch pedal, but is there an electronic equivalent? i wouldn't think it's included, but i could be wrong...

    There is still a clutch mechanism

  • me26/05/2009 at 00:40

    You would be surprised at how some of us can compare films

    :D

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:40

    wow, you really aren't the average girl lol

    haha i got a little upset with my friends around my birthday last year, cause what i really wanted to go was go and see the film - the boy in the stripped pyjamas but none of them wanted to because it would be too sad... so i had to go see a rom com instead. lol i got my own back by waking some of them up when i watched the race though haha

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:43

    Have found out that the Martini girl at Portier is called Jessiqa Pace

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/martini-girl-monaco-jpg

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:43

    wait wait wait, you won't watch high school kids singing/dancing, but you will watch 4 guys from jamaica in lycra in a bobsleigh...

    hahaha :) lol cool runnings isn't the same kinda cheesy.

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:43

    You would be surprised at how some of us can compare films

    Nothing surprises me at SPC anymore :)

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:44

    Have found out that the Martini girl at Portier is called Jessiqa Pace

    Apparently she was at the race and worried that she might be the cause of an accident!

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:45

    Apparently she was at the race and worried that she might be the cause of an accident!

    didn't DC say that the drivers asked for that advert to be taken down as it was too distracting... or was that a joke he made?

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:45

    Apparently she was at the race and worried that she might be the cause of an accident!

    Can't remember anyone going off there since Schuey stuffed it into the wall a few years back

    :D :D :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:46

    Can't remember anyone going off there since Schuey stuffed it into the wall a few years back

    Heidfeld slammed into the wall just under the ad in 2001. I think he's the most recent one. :D

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:46

    didn't DC say that the drivers asked for that advert to be taken down as it was too distracting... or was that a joke he made?

    Apparently it was true, cant remember where i read about it

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:46

    didn't DC say that the drivers asked for that advert to be taken down as it was too distracting... or was that a joke he made?

    Jake questioned that and he said it was serious

    I can see it being true

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:47

    Apparently, Lisa Dennis was at the paddock on Sunday. Interesting.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:47

    I can see it being true

    that picture scares me a little... Lukeh is too good in photoshop... :P

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:47

    Apparently it was true, cant remember where i read about it

    BBC Quali, beginning with Jake and DC

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:48

    that picture scares me a little... Lukeh is too good in photoshop... :P

    Too much time on his hands, he should go into graphic design

    He has the skillz

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:48

    that picture scares me a little... Lukeh is too good in photoshop... :P

    he has waaaaaay too much time on hands though :P

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 00:49

    I'm reading a very interesting document of a study of why men don't go into a primary teaching.

    Can anyone name the primary (no pun intended) reason?

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:49

    He has the skillz

    haha he certainly does, he'd be great in graphic design though you're right.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 00:50

    Apparently, Lisa Dennis was at the paddock on Sunday. Interesting.

    Strange

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:52

    When I refresh the new lclt (for the new daily thread) the order of the boxes change :(

    I guess this is a night owls issue only

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:52

    BBC Quali, beginning with Jake and DC

    There was an article somewhere too, where she said she was flattered but worried she could be the cause of an accident

  • me26/05/2009 at 00:54

    When I refresh the new lclt (for the new daily thread) the order of the boxes change :(

    you've lost me?

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 00:55

    When I refresh the new lclt (for the new daily thread) the order of the boxes change :(

    Just tried it and mine does the same.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:55

    Just tried it and mine does the same.

    I don't think the LCLT is able to save your layout yet.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:55

    When I refresh the new lclt (for the new daily thread) the order of the boxes change :(

    is that the same issue with it not remembering the order once you come back to it another day MrC?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 00:56

    I'm reading a very interesting document of a study of why men don't go into a primary teaching.

    Can anyone name the primary (no pun intended) reason?

    Hmmm... Interesting, but I have no idea. :)

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:56

    you've lost me?

    I re-ordered the boxes, putting everything bar the posting section at the bottom. Refreshed to get the new daily thread in the drop down and the original order reappeared.

    Just an observation

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 00:56

    you've lost me?

    If you shuffle the boxes then later press F5 they go back to their original positions

  • me26/05/2009 at 00:57

    Just tried it and mine does the same.

    I don't think the LCLT is able to save your layout yet.

    oh right. yeah we highlighted that here:

    "At present, the LCLT cannot remember your layout when you navigate away."

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/05/25/now-about-those-movable-boxes/

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 00:57

    you've lost me?

    Dont tell me you've joined Joe under the sofa!

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:57

    I didn't realise Bono was at Monaco and why is he wearing that silly wig?

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:58

    Dont tell me you've joined Joe under the sofa!

    :D

    Did he ever reappear?

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:58

    Dont tell me you've joined Joe under the sofa!

    that would make recording the podcast with Joe easier...

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 00:58

    Dont tell me you've joined Joe under the sofa!

    Must be getting crowded under there

  • me26/05/2009 at 00:58

    is that the same issue with it not remembering the order once you come back to it another day MrC?

    yup, exactly that. there are so many possible variables...

    - box position

    - one pane or two panes

    - scroll bar position

    - new comments on or off

    - post selected

    - etc, etc.

    it's a huge amount to snapshot every change and recall it on the fly, so for the moment we haven't even tried.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 00:59

    I didn't realise Bono was at Monaco and why is he wearing that silly wig?

    awww apparently Jenson's mum is really sweet! :D i like that she always wears a jenson badge too :)

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 00:59

    it's a huge amount to snapshot every change and recall it on the fly, so for the moment we haven't even tried.

    OK. Not a problem if everyone understands

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 00:59

    "At present, the LCLT cannot remember your layout when you navigate away."

    I hadn't finished reading the instructions

    [Typical engineer]

  • me26/05/2009 at 01:00

    I didn't realise Bono was at Monaco and why is he wearing that silly wig?

    do you think he's wearing a badge with jenson's name on to confuse people?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:00

    it's a huge amount to snapshot every change and recall it on the fly, so for the moment we haven't even tried.

    Looking at your list, just remembering the first two would be perfect for me. The others just cause unneccessary complexity.

    That said, take your time. :D

  • me26/05/2009 at 01:00

    Dont tell me you've joined Joe under the sofa!

    :)

    Did he ever reappear?

    nope!

    that would make recording the podcast with Joe easier...

    hadn't thought of that.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 01:01

    do you think he's wearing a badge with jenson's name on to confuse people?

    Maybe it is so she remembers who she is supporting or in case she gets drunk people know who to return her too

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:01

    do you think he's wearing a badge with jenson's name on to confuse people?

    My other thought was, isn't Jessica's conjoined twin a lot older than her?

  • me26/05/2009 at 01:01

    I hadn't finished reading the instructions

    [Typical engineer]

    :D

    Looking at your list, just remembering the first two would be perfect for me. The others just cause unneccessary complexity.

    interesting point. will have a think.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:02

    nope!

    No Aside until Turkey, then? Would've loved to hear what he thought of the whole FOTA malarkey. It'll probably be done by the time we're in Turkey...

    My other thought was, isn't Jessica's conjoined twin a lot older than her?

    :D

  • me26/05/2009 at 01:02

    No Aside until Turkey, then? Would've loved to hear what he thought of the whole FOTA malarkey. It'll probably be done by the time we're in Turkey...

    we might be able to do something next weekend. will keep you posted.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 01:03

    I actually might implode if i don't sleep.....

    so....

    It's goodnight from me!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:04

    we might be able to do something next weekend. will keep you posted.

    Yay! Right after the deadline! That'll be VERY interesting. ;)

    It's goodnight from me!

    Night, Jon. :)

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:04

    It's goodnight from me!

    night Jon!

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 01:05

    I actually might implode if i don't sleep.....

    so....

    Interesting...

    night!

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:05

    Fake seb buemi's new profle pic still makes me smile

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:05

    It's goodnight from me!

    Night Jon

  • me26/05/2009 at 01:05

    night jon. am off too (i was asleep, but woke up having a nightmare about people waving spc banners at silverstone - i may need to get outside more).

    see ya.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:06

    night jon. am off too (i was asleep, but woke up having a nightmare about people waving spc banners at silverstone - i may need to get outside more).

    That's not a nightmare! That's a wonderful dream!

    Folks going to Silverstone, make it happen! :D

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:06

    Maybe it is so she remembers who she is supporting or in case she gets drunk people know who to return her too

    aww i think it's nice she was able to be there for jenson yesterday on the grid and stuff cause last year we was going to be but had a bad back or something and had to watch the tv coverage from her room.... wow... i scared myself with that knowledge...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 01:06

    night jon. am off too (i was asleep, but woke up having a nightmare about people waving spc banners at silverstone - i may need to get outside more).

    i think you almost certainly need sleeep

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:07

    G'night Mr C

    night jon. am off too (i was asleep, but woke up having a nightmare about people waving spc banners at silverstone - i may need to get outside more).

    Or not if it becomes true :)

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:08

    night jon. am off too (i was asleep, but woke up having a nightmare about people waving spc banners at silverstone - i may need to get outside more).

    why is that a nightmare? i had a strange dream that there was a grand prix at my school last night... but i like your dream better! :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:08

    Or not if it becomes true :)

    It'll be up to us then. :D

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 01:08

    night jon. am off too (i was asleep, but woke up having a nightmare about people waving spc banners at silverstone - i may need to get outside more).

    It could be worse. It could have been fake SPC banners. That would be really worrying

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 01:08

    Night me C, hope you can find a way out from under the sofa

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:08

    It could be worse. It could have been fake SPC banners. That would be really worrying

    Hahaha!

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 01:09

    It could be worse. It could have been fake SPC banners. That would be really worrying

    :D

    I would love to see fake driver banners at silverstone, might confuse some people...

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:10

    i had a strange dream that there was a grand prix at my school last night...

    I've not had any F1 dreams yet, fake or otherwise :)

    Am I the Ant Davidson of SPC, can't get a race seat? :D

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:10

    I would love to see fake driver banners at silverstone, might confuse some people...

    Or fake driver's mums

  • me26/05/2009 at 01:11

    That's not a nightmare! That's a wonderful dream!

    i think they were all misspelt sideposcast and the autosport were laughing about it in the grapevine column.

    It could be worse. It could have been fake SPC banners. That would be really worrying

    thanks. sweet dream's n'all!

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 01:11

    i think they were all misspelt sideposcast and the autosport were laughing about it in the grapevine column.

    sidepostcast?

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:12

    I've not had any F1 dreams yet, fake or otherwise :)

    f1 dreams always turn out to be so strange for me, i have a reoccurring one that is just me walking down the pitlane at silverstone seeing all the teams, and having chats with race engineers and random people, and taking the odd picture. it's really strange. and then before i know it i'm having a cup of tea in the paddock in the sun... then i wake up. it's really odd.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:13

    sidepostcast?

    MWM shoutout. :D

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:13

    i think they were all misspelt sideposcast and the autosport were laughing about it in the grapevine column.

    awww :D at least the commentators would be able to pronounce it ;) night Mr C

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:13

    f1 dreams always turn out to be so strange for me, i have a reoccurring one that is just me walking down the pitlane at silverstone seeing all the teams, and having chats with race engineers and random people, and taking the odd picture. it's really strange. and then before i know it i'm having a cup of tea in the paddock in the sun... then i wake up. it's really odd.

    if it keeps repeating, it's usually a sign that it'll happen for real in the future.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 01:13

    I have never had a racing dream. I feel deprived

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:14

    I have never had a racing dream. I feel deprived

    I've had the odd dream from time to time. But it's only happened to me twice or thrice.

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:14

    I have never had a racing dream. I feel deprived

    Maybe Honda used all the power up ;)

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:15

    if it keeps repeating, it's usually a sign that it'll happen for real in the future.

    if that ever happens in the future i will actually die of happiness.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:16

    Maybe Honda used all the power up ;)

    Nah, they just pulled the plug. :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:16

    if that ever happens in the future i will actually die of happiness.

    It's up to you, really, if it will happen or not. :)

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 01:16

    Maybe Honda used all the power up ;)

    :D

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:16

    It's up to you, really, if it will happen or not. :)

    i wouldn't know where to start to try and make that happen...

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:16

    Nah, they just pulled the plug. :D

    The power of dreams has no battery back-up?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:17

    The power of dreams has no battery back-up?

    Honda took it with them when they left. ;)

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:17

    The power of dreams has no battery back-up?

    ahah :D

  • lou26/05/2009 at 01:30

    ok, i think it's about time i got some sleep... or at least tried to. night all x

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:31

    ok, i think it's about time i got some sleep... or at least tried to. night all x

    indeed. it's gotten quiet here already. night lou.

    i'll be off too. later everyone. :D

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:32

    I heard a nice little story today

    Apparently at the McLaren HQ they have electric pump soap dispensers in all the bathrooms. However, they always squirted out a little bit of soap when you removed your hand and left a little mess on the sink

    Ron didn't like this so had them re-engineered to automatically pump when you put your hand beneath them but then suck back a little when your hand was removed

    May not be true but of Ron, I could believe it :D

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:32

    Night Lou & Journeyer

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:35

    May not be true but of Ron, I could believe it :D

    That. is. COOL. :D Hahaha!

    But they'd save a lot of money if they just used manual dispensers. :P

    Night Lou & Journeyer

    I won't be heading to bed, it's still nice and sunny here. Unless you are?

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:37

    I won't be heading to bed, it's still nice and sunny here. Unless you are?

    No, I'll be around for a bit dipping in and out

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:38

    But they'd save a lot of money if they just used manual dispensers. :P

    Just not High Tech enough for Ron, he can probably calculate how much soap per bathroom is being used to see who is the cleanest

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 01:39

    Ron didn't like this so had them re-engineered to automatically pump when you put your hand beneath them but then suck back a little when your hand was removed

    I know a little bit about how dispensers are designed and things like the nozzles on shaving foam cans have features designed into them in the latest generation to stop drops forming on them and dripping. I would not be surprised if Ron had done what has been said.

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 01:42

    Just playing around with different formats for the new lclt, there could be something in this ya know. Quite versatile

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/new-lclt-format-ideas-jpg

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 01:46

    Just playing around with different formats for the new lclt, there could be something in this ya know. Quite versatile

    The versatility of this thing is amazing. :D Doohickey might have to be second-best in the meantime (unless you're on a mobile).

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 02:33

    Hey anyone still awake?

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 02:35

    Hey anyone still awake?

    I am

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 02:37

    Same here, but I'm in differnt time zone, So what 's the topic?

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 02:43

    One fake twitter user that I know one or two people here will be interested in following

    http://twitter.com/fakebhartley

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 02:43

    Same here, but I'm in differnt time zone, So what 's the topic?

    Not much of anything seems to have happened today. Hoping for a lot more news in the morning.

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 02:45

    What is the deal with the "Fake twitter" thing. I get alot less info than you guys in Europe, so help me

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 02:47

    What is the deal with the "Fake twitter" thing. I get alot less info than you guys in Europe, so help me

    I think it all started with Fake Steve Jobs. Now everyonw wants to be a "fake" in every field

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 02:49

    I have only talked to one F1 driver ever, on-line or otherwise, Scott Speed. Oh wait, I was on a flight with Takumo Sato after his 6th place in Montreal. So I won't hang around online to talk to someone I don't know who they are

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 02:49

    What is the deal with the "Fake twitter" thing. I get alot less info than you guys in Europe, so help me

    I have only been using twitter for a week so I am only just starting to find out about it. Basically there are fans who have acounts as fake drivers and they respond to real events. Tonight it got a bit weirder than normal when fake Seb Buemi's mother showed up and started an argument with fake Piquet jr.

    Some of the fakes are really good and really entertaining. Best thing is to follow a few and see if you enjoy it or not. I am sure as many folk will hate it as enjoy it.

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 02:51

    I have only talked to one F1 driver ever, on-line or otherwise, Scott Speed. Oh wait, I was on a flight with Takumo Sato after his 6th place in Montreal. So I won't hang around online to talk to someone I don't know who they are

    You won't see me defending twitter, I think it's a waste of time. Apart from the dubious entertainment value, I haven't seen much of a reason for it.

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 02:52

    I will only claim face to face as contact. By the way, when I met Scott Speed (hopefully next years USF1 driver) I talked to his Mom for a while

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 02:52

    Anyway it is way past my bed time so I am going to disappear as well.

    See you all later.

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 02:52

    See ya steven

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 02:57

    Sleep tight Steven

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 02:59

    A quick question to whoevers still here. Is there lots of gambling in Europe? I will be playing blackjack tommorrow

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 03:00

    A quick question to whoevers still here. Is there lots of gambling in Europe? I will be playing blackjack tommorrow

    Can't tell you, I'm in Australia. Anyway, back to work for me, catch you all later.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 03:08

    the reason for twitter is pure and simple. It got me into a mclaren event that i otherwise wouldn have known about let alone been on the guest list for. In other news i just put $10 on roger to win the french open. There i go betting with my heart not my head again.

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 03:10

    the reason for twitter is pure and simple. It got me into a mclaren event that i otherwise wouldn have known about let alone been on the guest list for. In other news i just put $10 on roger to win the french open. There i go betting with my heart not my head again.

    Sorry, I was listening to Adam Hill. How good of an event?

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 03:17

    just a pr event but i got to see heikki attempt to hold a cricket bat and the day rates as one of my favourite days ever. Looking at my photos and videos always makes me very thankful i got the chance.

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 03:19

    just a pr event but i got to see heikki attempt to hold a cricket bat and the day rates as one of my favourite days ever. Looking at my photos and videos always makes me very thankful i got the chance.

    I still look at my pictures and video from Montreal, it was a great time. I undertand completely.

  • Joe in Fla26/05/2009 at 03:32

    Hitting the rack. See you all later

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 04:40

    Hey everyone. LCLT sleeps too! :D

    Later, Joe. :)

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 04:56

    Loving the new LCLT :)

    Morning everyone :)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 05:09

    Loving the new LCLT :)

    Preferring it over doohickey? :P

    Morning, Alex!

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 05:13

    Preferring it over doohickey? :P

    Oooh not sure yet... I'll have to wait and see.

    I have always felt they have very different functions and haven't ever really played favourites.

    So I doohicky for most of the time when multiple threads are being used and live comment for the races and live events (debrief / panel / parade etc).

    So I don't know if that will change but it could do I guess.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 05:18

    So I [doohickey] for most of the time when multiple threads are being used and live comment for the races and live events (debrief / panel / parade etc).

    Yeah, just about makes sense. And doohickey is for the mobile too.

    That said, if people start using LCLT more often, it might allow for cleaner threads and conversations. :)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 05:37

    Ahhh... One good thing about my work laptop (that doesn't allow anything more than IE6) - it comes with RealPlayer.

    Tried using it for iPlayer for the first time. I miss Radio 1. :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 05:47

    Tried using it for iPlayer for the first time. I miss Radio 1. :D

    Bono baby? Riiiight...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 06:10

    Preferring it over doohickey? :P

    Oooh not sure yet... I'll have to wait and see.

    I have always felt they have very different functions and haven't ever really played favourites.

    So I doohicky for most of the time when multiple threads are being used and live comment for the races and live events (debrief / panel / parade etc).

    So I don't know if that will change but it could do I guess.

    Indeed. Steven revelead that he has both the doohickey and LCLT open when catching up. And the Doohickey works well on the iPhone...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 06:12

    I heard a nice little story today

    Apparently at the McLaren HQ they have electric pump soap dispensers in all the bathrooms. However, they always squirted out a little bit of soap when you removed your hand and left a little mess on the sink

    Ron didn't like this so had them re-engineered to automatically pump when you put your hand beneath them but then suck back a little when your hand was removed

    May not be true but of Ron, I could believe it :D

    Ahh yes that was on Gareth Jones on Speed a few weeks ago. Sounds like an urban legend but could be true!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 06:20

    And the Doohickey works well on the iPhone...

    VERY well. :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 06:21

    Ahh yes that was on Gareth Jones on Speed a few weeks ago. Sounds like an urban legend but could be true!

    I didn't know you can make urban legends out of electric pump soap dispensers. :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 06:33

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/5374459/Why-Prince-Albert-is-in-pole-position.html

    A rather interesting article about Prince Albert of Monaco. Sounds like a decent chap!

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 06:42

    I hadn't realised that Vijay Mallya is also a Doctor. People always refer to Dr Mario Theissen but I haven't really seen them refer to Dr Vijay Mallya.

    Interesting.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 06:43

    I hadn't realised that Vijay Mallya is also a Doctor. People always refer to Dr Mario Theissen but I haven't really seen them refer to Dr Vijay Mallya.

    Really? I guess Dr Mallya wasn't that fond of Dr Kolles. :P

    Maybe Vijay's doctorship is a PhD?

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 06:49

    Maybe Vijay's doctorship is a PhD?

    But so is Mario's. Theissen has two doctorates one in Mechanical Engineering and one in Engineering.

    Ah perhaps it is because Mallya's is honorary.

    He has an actual bachelor of commerce degree from the university of Calcutta. And an honorary Doctorate in Business Administration from California Southern University, Santa Ana. (According to Forbes).

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 06:51

    I put something on the TV with the timer. Has to be something I've seen before with no loud noises. Old West Wing or Studio 60 has been great for me recently

    Can't fall asleep to them - get too engrossed. :D

    Both excellent series. Shame Studio 60 was canned after 1 series though.

    I've found that audio books are best for me. Currently going through the entire Terry Pratchett catalogue of books.

    Still only get a couple of hours a night though.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 06:53

    I put something on the TV with the timer. Has to be something I've seen before with no loud noises. Old West Wing or Studio 60 has been great for me recently

    Can't fall asleep to them - get too engrossed. :D

    Both excellent series. Shame Studio 60 was canned after 1 series though.

    I've found that audio books are best for me. Currently going through the entire Terry Pratchett catalogue of books.

    Still only get a couple of hours a night though.

    The 'In Our Time' Podcast ALWAYS sends me to sleep - so dry and boring!

    When I take my morning nap on the train I do it to Buzz Out Loud as I always fall asleep after the news (the best bit anyway!)

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 07:01

    Can't fall asleep to them - get too engrossed. :D

    Both excellent series. Shame Studio 60 was canned after 1 series though.

    I wouldn't be able to either...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 07:01

    Can't fall asleep to them - get too engrossed. :D

    NASCAR can put you to sleep. Sure put me to sleep last night. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 07:02

    Can't fall asleep to them - get too engrossed. :D

    NASCAR can put you to sleep. Sure put me to sleep last night. :D

    Yeah so I hear. FOUR HOURS OF WAITING!

    That's why you should only watch highlights of it!

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:03

    I put something on the TV with the timer. Has to be something I've seen before with no loud noises. Old West Wing or Studio 60 has been great for me recently

    i missed a west wing discussion? watched all 7 series in the last 6 months - the only effort I've ever made to be completely stupid with DVDs. I won't be doing anything like that again in a hurry... love the show but i was too obsessed to always get to the next episode...

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:03

    NASCAR can put you to sleep. Sure put me to sleep last night. :D

    how many cautions for a drop of rain? :) Morning all :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 07:03

    i missed a west wing discussion? watched all 7 series in the last 6 months - the only effort I've ever made to be completely stupid with DVDs. I won't be doing anything like that again in a hurry... love the show but i was too obsessed to always get to the next episode...

    I never got into that show... they talked waay too fast for me...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 07:03

    how many cautions for a drop of rain? :) Morning all :)

    Morning Scott. :D Way too many cautions, Scott. Way too many...

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 07:05

    i missed a west wing discussion? watched all 7 series in the last 6 months - the only effort I've ever made to be completely stupid with DVDs. I won't be doing anything like that again in a hurry... love the show but i was too obsessed to always get to the next episode...

    I never saw any of it when it was being shown on TV - then I bought the DVD set. Watched all 7 series, pretty much back to back in a matter of weeks.

    Loved it.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:05

    I never got into that show... they talked waay too fast for me...

    there was a great parody I saw once. I think it was the first series parody.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:08

    Morning Scott. :D Way too many cautions, Scott. Way too many...

    that good huh? :)

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 07:14

    there was a great parody I saw once. I think it was the first series parody.

    Toby is spot on in that. :D

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:18

    Toby is spot on in that. :D

    "you won't understand any of it, but you'll sense important things are happening". I loved that show. We had about 2 years without it in Oz due to it not being watched so the network kept shifting timeslots and eventually dumped it until it was picked up years later by a new network. I spoke to the programming department of the original TV station and they (unofficially) said people would rather (I forget the phrase exactly) dumb **** than something intelligent.

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 07:18

    i missed a west wing discussion? watched all 7 series in the last 6 months - the only effort I've ever made to be completely stupid with DVDs. I won't be doing anything like that again in a hurry... love the show but i was too obsessed to always get to the next episode...

    I recently went through the same thing. It's an amazing show... It really is.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:26

    I recently went through the same thing. It's an amazing show... It really is.

    Hey Alex, was it you requesting summer songs yesterday for the garden. I heard a great classic last night when I was dealing with the heat. Louis Armstrong and Ella Fitzgerald, Summertime. Slow, but ooh so smoooooth.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:33

    I've found that audio books are best for me. Currently going through the entire Terry Pratchett catalogue of books.

    Yeah I've started doing that this year. works well. Moby Dick for me. its long....figure It'll take me a few months.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 07:34

    Yeah I've started doing that this year. works well. Moby Dick for me. its long....figure It'll take me a few months.

    Christine's also recorded a bunch of audio books, right? Has anyone listened to them?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 07:35

    "you won't understand any of it, but you'll sense important things are happening". I loved that show. We had about 2 years without it in Oz due to it not being watched so the network kept shifting timeslots and eventually dumped it until it was picked up years later by a new network. I spoke to the programming department of the original TV station and they (unofficially) said people would rather (I forget the phrase exactly) dumb **** than something intelligent.

    Ahh the networks ... shift the timeslot and then drop it because no one was watching the programme - because of confusion with the timeslot probably!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 07:36

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/brawngp/5383667/Jenson-Button-in-pole-position-to-win-F1-world-championship.html

    Oooh DC's having a pop at Mansell as well:

    [Jenson] is totally comfortable with all the attention; self-confident when he needs to be, generous in his praise of others and humble enough to acknowledge the Brawn workers who are making his success possible. There is none of the "me, me, me" that characterised Nigel Mansell's reign at the top, for instance./em>

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:38

    And an honorary Doctorate in Business Administration from California Southern University, Santa Ana. (According to Forbes).

    Some countries, like Italy, allow people to call themselves Dr for a Bachelor degree. honorary degrees (in my humble opinion) devalue the real ones that people earn.

    Christine's also recorded a bunch of audio books, right? Has anyone listened to them?

    I have enough time issues with getting through all the podcasts.

    Ahh the networks ... shift the timeslot and then drop it because no one was watching the programme - because of confusion with the timeslot probably!

    It didn't help - which is why I kept ringing the tv station. i wasn't an angry person, i just had no idea when my favourite show would be on tv.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 07:39

    [Jenson] is totally comfortable with all the attention; self-confident when he needs to be, generous in his praise of others and humble enough to acknowledge the Brawn workers who are making his success possible. There is none of the "me, me, me" that characterised Nigel Mansell's reign at the top, for instance.

    Hehehe... How appropriate, I'm currently watching the 1985 European GP on JTV. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 07:41

    Hehehe... How appropriate, I'm currently watching the 1985 European GP on JTV. :D

    I'm curious as to how Mansell was adored while he was in F1 and is scorned upon now - how the heck will Lewis cope when his career ends?

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:41

    I'm curious as to how Mansell was adored while he was in F1 and is scorned upon now - how the heck will Lewis cope when his career ends?

    By moving to commentating on ITV and earning the wrath of people like us with JL, JA etc...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 07:45

    I'm curious as to how Mansell was adored while he was in F1 and is scorned upon now - how the heck will Lewis cope when his career ends?

    Scorned might be a strong word. :) It's more like a mixed reaction now...

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 07:52

    Christine's also recorded a bunch of audio books, right? Has anyone listened to them?

    Just two full ones and a bunch of random chapters of others.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 07:54

    Just two full ones and a bunch of random chapters of others.

    "Just two full ones"...is it as massive a job as I think it is?

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 07:55

    "Just two full ones"...is it as massive a job as I think it is?

    Yup.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 07:57

    I'm curious as to how Mansell was adored while he was in F1 and is scorned upon now - how the heck will Lewis cope when his career ends?

    Scorned might be a strong word. :) It's more like a mixed reaction now...

    Maybe. But over the last few years there has been a lot of hate for the 'tache-meister...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 07:57

    Miley Cyrus on Radio 2?! What the heck?!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 07:58

    Maybe. But over the last few years there has been a lot of hate for the 'tache-meister...

    Who hasn't had a tache for years now... :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 07:59

    Maybe. But over the last few years there has been a lot of hate for the 'tache-meister...

    Who hasn't had a tache for years now... :D

    I suspect the two are connected ... lost the 'tache, lost that lovin' feeling!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:00

    I suspect the two are connected ... lost the 'tache, lost that lovin' feeling!

    Hmmm... You may be onto something there...

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 08:00

    Hey Alex, was it you requesting summer songs yesterday for the garden. I heard a great classic last night when I was dealing with the heat. Louis Armstrong and Ella Fitzgerald, Summertime. Slow, but ooh so smoooooth.

    Great song :)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:00

    FR Update: Vettel's value only dropped this morning. Now there's a delayed reaction - and I hate it. I bought back Vettel already, thinking his price had bottomed out. I didn't factor in the bank holiday... *sighs* Oh well.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:01

    FR Update: Vettel's value only dropped this morning. Now there's a delayed reaction - and I hate it. I bought back Vettel already, thinking his price had bottomed out. I didn't factor in the bank holiday... *sighs* Oh well.

    I'm SO not playing the stock market with FR :(

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:03

    I'm SO not playing the stock market with FR :(

    Why the sad face? It's just something I do to amuse myself, and hope to earn a couple of hundred Ks in the process. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:05

    I'm SO not playing the stock market with FR :(

    Why the sad face? It's just something I do to amuse myself, and hope to earn a couple of hundred Ks in the process. :)

    Ah it's just too much effort. What would be really funny if the FR guy made a credit crunch on driver trading...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:06

    Ah it's just too much effort. What would be really funny if the FR guy made a credit crunch on driver trading...

    :D I don't think the concept of credit even exists in FR! :P

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 08:07

    :D I don't think the concept of credit even exists in FR! :P

    Maybe we should all lend our money to Kathi ;)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:08

    Maybe we should all lend our money to Kathi ;)

    Then we can force her to bankruptcy! Mwahahahaha! :D

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 08:08

    "Just two full ones"...is it as massive a job as I think it is?

    Yup.

    I've been contemplating the discipline it must take. It's an effort to read these books but to read them clearly and perfectly but be ... well...yikes. Bravo!

    Ah it's just too much effort. What would be really funny if the FR guy made a credit crunch on driver trading...

    I still don't think I've made one change yet. It slipped off my priority list...

    Maybe we should all lend our money to Kathi ;)

    :) as long as Kathi is not lending money to herself, the economy should be okay

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:08

    :D I don't think the concept of credit even exists in FR! :P

    Maybe we should all lend our money to Kathi ;)

    And then default on payments and claim all her FR assets. Win!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:09

    I still don't think I've made one change yet. It slipped off my priority list...

    Same here - I would have to sell KUB and SUT to buy a better driver but at the moment, that driver would not score more points than KUB and SUT combnied. So I stick with what i have for a good spread!

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 08:09

    I've been contemplating the discipline it must take. It's an effort to read these books but to read them clearly and perfectly but be ... well...yikes. Bravo!

    For me, the reading is the easy bit. I dislike having to go back and listen to myself as I edit, but it's all good fun.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 08:09

    And then default on payments and claim all her FR assets. Win!

    stop giving autosport some ideas...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:10

    For me, the reading is the easy bit. I dislike having to go back and listen to myself as I edit, but it's all good fun.

    Is that your actual job, Christine? Or is that just a hobby?

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 08:11

    Is that your actual job, Christine? Or is that just a hobby?

    Reading audiobooks? Ha, I'm not good enough for that. Just a hobby :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:11

    For me, the reading is the easy bit. I dislike having to go back and listen to myself as I edit, but it's all good fun.

    I have decided I hate the sound of my own voice :( I only listen back on the panels becuase the others make me laugh so much!

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 08:12

    For me, the reading is the easy bit. I dislike having to go back and listen to myself as I edit, but it's all good fun.

    In my small time radio career, I've put together a few prepackaged pieces and the relistening to something you've spent lots of time on is annoying.

    i was once listening to an audio tour somewhere in france and they forgot to go back, otherwise "let's do this again" followed by a partial reread would never have made it to the recording.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 08:12

    I have decided I hate the sound of my own voice :( I only listen back on the panels becuase the others make me laugh so much!

    I get the feeling everyone hates the sound of their own voice.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:13

    I get the feeling everyone hates the sound of their own voice.

    Me too. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:13

    I get the feeling everyone hates the sound of their own voice.

    It's just ... weird ... I can't describe the feeling - like I shouldn't be listening to myself and why do I say things the way I do?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:14

    Reading audiobooks? Ha, I'm not good enough for that. Just a hobby :)

    Wait till they release a book on Franck!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:14

    It's just ... weird ... I can't describe the feeling - like I shouldn't be listening to myself and why do I say things the way I do?

    The way you sound to yourself is different from the way you sound to other people. :) That's why it's weird.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 08:16

    I get the feeling everyone hates the sound of their own voice.

    not me. that's why I talk so much :)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:17

    not me. that's why I talk so much :)

    Hey! I talk a lot too! :P

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 08:27

    morning.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:28

    Morning, Lukeh. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:41

    I just realised why there weren't many other podcasts released yesterday - most of mine are from the UK and they were on holiday...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:42

    I just realised why there weren't many other podcasts released yesterday - most of mine are from the UK and they were on holiday...

    Debrief got released earlier BECAUSE of the holiday. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:43

    I just realised why there weren't many other podcasts released yesterday - most of mine are from the UK and they were on holiday...

    Debrief got released earlier BECAUSE of the holiday. :D

    Yeah I know - but for example no FIF1, Williams or Soccernet podcasts today!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:45

    Yeah I know - but for example no FIF1, Williams or Soccernet podcasts today!

    Very good points there! Do they edit FIF1 and Williams on the Monday after the race, even if it's recorded on Sunday?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:46

    Yeah I know - but for example no FIF1, Williams or Soccernet podcasts today!

    Very good points there! Do they edit FIF1 and Williams on the Monday after the race, even if it's recorded on Sunday?

    Don't know - but over the past few weeks I seem to remember listening to them on a Tuesday...

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 08:46

    I just realised why there weren't many other podcasts released yesterday - most of mine are from the UK and they were on holiday...

    It was also Memorial Day in the US, wasn't it?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:46

    Don't know - but over the past few weeks I seem to remember listening to them on a Tuesday...

    Not that I'd notice. Hehe. :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:47

    It was also Memorial Day in the US, wasn't it?

    Yep, it was. I think Gavin and I were the only people who were at the office. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:47

    I just realised why there weren't many other podcasts released yesterday - most of mine are from the UK and they were on holiday...

    It was also Memorial Day in the US, wasn't it?

    True - and therefore no BOL or 404! Arrgh! All my schedules are disrupted!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 08:47

    Yep, it was. I think Gavin and I were the only people who were at the office. :D

    But I had Thursday and Friday off. Next Week I have Monday and Friday off. I am determined to launch the blog before Turkey!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 08:49

    But I had Thursday and Friday off. Next Week I have Monday and Friday off. I am determined to launch the blog before Turkey!

    You lucky you. :P No holidays for me until 12th June. :(

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 08:54

    True - and therefore no BOL or 404! Arrgh! All my schedules are disrupted!

    Aww. That is one benefit to being hideously behind on all my podcasts. It makes no difference!

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 09:29

    stupid FOM on youtube, why isn't breaking copyright law easy

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 09:32

    stupid FOM on youtube, why isn't breaking copyright law easy

    did your PW-Rubens video get taken down?

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 09:39

    did your PW-Rubens video get taken down?

    sure did

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 09:44

    stupid FOM on youtube, why isn't breaking copyright law easy

    did your PW-Rubens video get taken down?

    sure did

    FOM have zero concept of "fair use" eh?

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 09:47

    FOM have zero concept of "fair use" eh?

    heh I guess its fair enough, but I know as an F1 fan I like to see clips from other countries and it seems silly they come down on them so hard when they don't even show these things on TV in other places anyway.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 09:49

    FOM have zero concept of "fair use" eh?

    heh I guess its fair enough, but I know as an F1 fan I like to see clips from other countries and it seems silly they come down on them so hard when they don't even show these things on TV in other places anyway.

    And the fact that the BBC are geo-locked on all of their clips too ... other sports are not half as restrictive!

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 09:51

    And the fact that the BBC are geo-locked on all of their clips too ... other sports are not half as restrictive!

    Well the BBC is slightly different as it has licence payers to think of.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 09:53

    And the fact that the BBC are geo-locked on all of their clips too ... other sports are not half as restrictive!

    Well the BBC is slightly different as it has licence payers to think of.

    But what about the F1 website? I can watch loads of news and sports clips on the rest of the BBC pages but not a single F1 clip can be accessed outside the UK?

    I accept the argument about why I can't access the iPlayer, but short clips on the website?

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 09:54

    I accept the argument about why I can't access the iPlayer, but short clips on the website?

    In that case it must be part of the deal they've done with Bernie.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 09:56

    heh I guess its fair enough, but I know as an F1 fan I like to see clips from other countries and it seems silly they come down on them so hard when they don't even show these things on TV in other places anyway.

    is this from the US? If yes, it's on SPEED, which is a cable channel you pay for. that may explain why this can't fall under fair use.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 09:56

    is this from the US? If yes, it's on SPEED, which is a cable channel you pay for. that may explain why this can't fall under fair use.

    nope its from ONE HD, the Australian broadcaster.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 09:56

    In that case it must be part of the deal they've done with Bernie.

    Yeah I think so too :( The silly thing is, there are so many ways around it that they may as well not bother restricting it in the first place. One day FOM will wake upo and provide a web streaming service - and make TONS of money!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 09:58

    is this from the US? If yes, it's on SPEED, which is a cable channel you pay for. that may explain why this can't fall under fair use.

    Fair enough, but SPEED or whoever are not going to lose revenue from a short clip which they may never broadcast again anyway - and both the channel and F1 get free promotion from the clip too!

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 09:58

    Yeah I think so too :( The silly thing is, there are so many ways around it that they may as well not bother restricting it in the first place. One day FOM will wake upo and provide a web streaming service - and make TONS of money!

    It does seem odd that Bernie wouldn't have dollar signs glinting in his eyes given how many people will pay for a decent online sports feed.

    It's the same with all old media, though, they can only see the piracy, but mostly people pirate because they haven't got any other access. Eventually, they'll all come round, and Bernie will be the last to do so.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 09:59

    It's the same with all old media, though, they can only see the piracy, but mostly people pirate because they haven't got any other access. Eventually, they'll all come round, and Bernie will be the last to do so.

    as long as TV ratings remain high (which they are), Bernie won't come round to it. it'll have to be up to his successor (whoever that is) to introduce it.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:00

    as long as TV ratings remain high (which they are), Bernie won't come round to it. it'll have to be up to his successor (whoever that is) to introduce it.

    Bernie will never step down, even as a ghost he will haunt F1's paddocks :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:01

    It's the same with all old media, though, they can only see the piracy, but mostly people pirate because they haven't got any other access. Eventually, they'll all come round, and Bernie will be the last to do so.

    It's the mp3 argument all over again isn't it? In a few years the TV companies will be making most of their money from Net streaming like mp3's are to iTunes now. We even have a cable box that just transmits TV via an Internet link in Denmark...

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:04

    It's the mp3 argument all over again isn't it?

    Absolutely. The music industry has already started the transition, although they've still got a way to go yet. The movie and TV companies are a way behind, but they'll get there eventually.

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 10:08

    Hi Morning All!!

    I'm well up for some Tremanying today, what's the number? There's a team massively overdue a Tremanying!!

    Also does anyone else not actually like Brawn GP? Is that allowed?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:09

    Hey RCC!

    Also does anyone else not actually like Brawn GP? Is that allowed?

    Apparently, there are people who are starting not to like them, with their current domination of F1. I think some of them hated it from the start, but are just going public with it now. It shouldn't be allowed, but what can ya do?

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:10

    I'm well up for some Tremanying today, what's the number? There's a team massively overdue a Tremanying!!

    0121 28 TRACK - that's 0121 28 87225.

    Also does anyone else not actually like Brawn GP? Is that allowed?

    Hehehe. I don't think it is allowed actually... well, you'll face the wrath of several commentors anyway :)

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:11

    Apparently, there are people who are starting not to like them, with their current domination of F1. I think some of them hated it from the start, but are just going public with it now. It shouldn't be allowed, but what can ya do?

    I find myself very conflicted because at the end of Monaco I was happy that Jenson won it, but disappointed that it was so easy for them.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:13

    Also does anyone else not actually like Brawn GP? Is that allowed?

    Everyone's entitled to their own opinion :)

    No matter how wrong it may be *runs away*

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:13

    Apparently, there are people who are starting not to like them, with their current domination of F1. I think some of them hated it from the start, but are just going public with it now. It shouldn't be allowed, but what can ya do?

    I got a little bored after win number 3 so win number 5 is trying my patience. I definitely don't dislike Brawn as such, I just like lots of winners in a season.

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 10:13

    I’m SO not playing the stock market with FR :(

    Why the sad face? It’s just something I do to amuse myself, and hope to earn a couple of hundred Ks in the process. :)

    Ah it’s just too much effort.

    It isn't much effort at all.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:13

    No matter how wrong it may be *runs away*

    Hehe.

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 10:14

    Apparently, there are people who are starting not to like them, with their current domination of F1. I think some of them hated it from the start, but are just going public with it now. It shouldn’t be allowed, but what can ya do

    I'm sad to say I'm one of the ones that doesn't like them!

    Somethings wrong when they do 1 test and then dominate all year. It's like at school when you spend all week preparing for a test then some smary geek does not revision at all and still gets higher grades. I'm stuck between being patriotic and yet not actually liking Button at all.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:14

    I find myself very conflicted because at the end of Monaco I was happy that Jenson won it, but disappointed that it was so easy for them.

    I guess you wanted to see someone really challenge Jenson, but no one could touch him, really. You'll have to blame Ross Brawn for that. :D

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 10:15

    Thank you for the shout out on F1 debreif Mr C :-)

    Im not sure if my points haul on fantasy racers was anything special or not, I know Im not going to overhaul Kathy but I might help us beat Autosport :-)

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:15

    I guess you wanted to see someone really challenge Jenson, but no one could touch him, really. You'll have to blame Ross Brawn for that. :D

    Yup. I think I said that in the show.

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 10:15

    0121 28 TRACK - that’s 0121 28 87225.

    right check tonight lol

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:16

    Im not sure if my points haul on fantasy racers was anything special or not, I know Im not going to overhaul Kathy but I might help us beat Autosport :-)

    Yay!

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:16

    Hello, Eurogamer have a hand-on preview up of F1 2009...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:16

    Yup. I think I said that in the show.

    Did you? *remembers Debrief* oh yeah, you did! :D

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:16

    Somethings wrong when they do 1 test and then dominate all year. It's like at school when you spend all week preparing for a test then some smary geek does not revision at all and still gets higher grades. I'm stuck between being patriotic and yet not actually liking Button at all.

    When I was at school, that was me. And its true, people hated it.

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 10:18

    If it was an established team winning 5 out of 6 I would be finding this season repetitive by now (unless it was Williams) but with it being Brawn GP Im just really happy for all of them, it is really nice to see them giving a different member of the team going to the podium after each win.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:19

    If it was an established team winning 5 out of 6 I would be finding this season repetitive by now (unless it was Williams) but with it being Brawn GP Im just really happy for all of them, it is really nice to see them giving a different member of the team going to the podium after each win.

    I hear this a lot, but I don't view them as a "new team" as such. I know their last minute rescue was great, but to me they're pretty much still Honda.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:20

    When I was at school, that was me. And its true, people hated it.

    So you're a geek, then? :D

    But seriously, let's remember that many teams did 2009 regs testing in 2008. I'm pretty certain Honda did this (at Ross' insistence) at least a couple of times. And even then, Brawn ran at 3 tests before Melbourne this year...

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 10:20

    When I was at school, that was me. And its true, people hated it.

    yeah ditto, I could never revise, much prefer exams over coursework etc.

    I wanna see them challenged (Brawn) and not feel like my Brit GP 09 ticket is an expensive waste to watch 2 white cars trundle round for 60 laps

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:20

    If anyone wants a read on the Wii F1 2009 game, and a few new screenshots, check this out:

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/f1-2009-hands-on

    It's a good detailed read into what to expect. It doesn't look the most beautiful game to look at al all to be honest but they're accomadating for both casual fans wanting a quick play and hardcore fans wanting the full experience (strategy, fuel, full weekend, etc) which is good for the Wii :)

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:20

    So you're a geek, then? :D

    I was at school, then I went to Uni where no one was making sure I actually went to class and it all went pear shaped :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:21

    I hear this a lot, but I don't view them as a "new team" as such. I know their last minute rescue was great, but to me they're pretty much still Honda.

    For me, this is VERY different. Honda's management style is very different to Ross, so that in turn creates a different culture within the team. Sure, they may have the same resources, but it's how they're used and how they work together that make it so different.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:21

    I was at school, then I went to Uni where no one was making sure I actually went to class and it all went pear shaped :D

    Hehehe. Got burned out by excessive geekiness, then? :P

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:22

    Hehehe. Got burned out by excessive geekiness, then? :P

    you can't not revise and still get an A for a subject when you never went to the lectures and had no knowledge of the subject in the first place :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:23

    you can't not revise and still get an A for a subject when you never went to the lectures and had no knowledge of the subject in the first place :D

    tsk tsk tsk. :P Where did you hie off to? :P

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 10:24

    hear this a lot, but I don’t view them as a “new team” as such. I know their last minute rescue was great, but to me they’re pretty much still Honda.

    Oh yeah I don't view them as ''new'' as such, but they are new to winning grands prix. I probably will become bored of it though but not before Silverstone hopefully!

    3 weeks and 4 days *giddy*

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:25

    tsk tsk tsk. :P Where did you hie off to? :P

    I stayed in bed. Not a morning person unless I have to be:D I also often skipped lectures to go to work instead because overtime $$ are my friend :D

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:26

    It's a good detailed read into what to expect. It doesn't look the most beautiful game to look at al all to be honest but they're accomadating for both casual fans wanting a quick play and hardcore fans wanting the full experience (strategy, fuel, full weekend, etc) which is good for the Wii :)

    My one question is - does it have lots of driving aids that basically means you could be driving on train tracks? Cos that's the only way I make it round a single lap.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:26

    My one question is - does it have lots of driving aids that basically means you could be driving on train tracks? Cos that's the only way I make it round a single lap.

    It apparently has 15 different driver aids, so you have nothing to worry about :P

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:26

    It apparently has 15 different driver aids, so you have nothing to worry about :P

    15?! The last F1 game only had... 5, I think.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:27

    It apparently has 15 different driver aids, so you have nothing to worry about :P

    Phew :)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:28

    15?! The last F1 game only had... 5, I think.

    I'm not sure what they could be..

    Transmission

    Car damage

    Difficulty

    AI difficulty

    Steering assist

    Braking Assist

    Driving Line indicator

    Braking zones indicator

    Thats all I can think of... so yeah, 15 is quite the assistance!

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:30

    Thats all I can think of... so yeah, 15 is quite the assistance!

    I heart being able to see the racing line, I am so rubbish at finding them. As long as I have that, I'm OK.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:30

    Thats all I can think of... so yeah, 15 is quite the assistance!

    My favourite is the F1 game we had on... PS2 I think, which had a nice green line all the way round the track. If you went off it too much, it just bumped you back on. Switched on the braking aids too and all I had to do was keep my finger on the accelerator.

    Completely pointless :)

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 10:32

    On the last F1 game was it F1 2006? if you went off the track your car would slow down for upto 14 seconds as a penalty!

    Still anger's me to this day that Yuji Ide was robbed of winning the Italian GP by going wide on exit of Ascari chicane! :-(

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:32

    My favourite is the F1 game we had on... PS2 I think, which had a nice green line all the way round the track. If you went off it too much, it just bumped you back on. Switched on the braking aids too and all I had to do was keep my finger on the accelerator.

    That's brilliantly lazy! :P

    Although this is the Wii... you may have to rely on turning the remote about now as well as pressing a button!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:33

    Still anger's me to this day that Yuji Ide was robbed of winning the Italian GP by going wide on exit of Ascari chicane! :-(

    That's odd... they usually just punish you for cutting the chicane, not running wide on exit...

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:33

    On the last F1 game was it F1 2006? if you went off the track your car would slow down for upto 14 seconds as a penalty!

    That was one of the worst things about the Sony games, if you cut corners you wouldn't get warnings, or a drive through or anything, it'd just chuck you in 2nd gear for the time you said, usually at least 8 seconds. Horribly annoying.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:35

    That was one of the worst things about the Sony games, if you cut corners you wouldn't get warnings, or a drive through or anything, it'd just chuck you in 2nd gear for the time you said, usually at least 8 seconds. Horribly annoying.

    Good point. I guess it was trickier to program in calling for a drive-through, then getting black-flagged if you don't follow it...

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 10:35

    That's brilliantly lazy! :P

    Hehehe. For some reason I don't have the co-ordination on driving games to steer, change gear and brake and all that.

    Something like Tomb Raider is easy. Run, jump, grab, roll, shoot, all fine. Steering? Much too hard.

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 10:36

    That was one of the worst things about the Sony games, if you cut corners you wouldn’t get warnings, or a drive through or anything, it’d just chuck you in 2nd gear for the time you said, usually at least 8 seconds. Horribly annoying.

    When that occured though, I used to tell myself that I pressed with the rev limiter! just to diffuse my anger!

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:36

    Good point. I guess it was trickier to program in calling for a drive-through, then getting black-flagged if you don't follow it...

    Just would've been more sensible to be given 3 strikes or something though me thinks, like what we saw with massa at the weekend. So annoying to fight your way through the field, take a corner wrong on accident then be stuck for 15 seconds with loads of cars flying past and nothing you can do because of the way they set it up :(

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:37

    When that occured though, I used to tell myself that I pressed with the rev limiter! just to diffuse my anger!

    Pressing the rev limiter? Is your name Heikki? ;)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:37

    Just would've been more sensible to be given 3 strikes or something though me thinks, like what we saw with massa at the weekend. So annoying to fight your way through the field, take a corner wrong on accident then be stuck for 15 seconds with loads of cars flying past and nothing you can do because of the way they set it up :(

    It's a matter of knowing what it will and won't allow. It was tricky at the start, but once I figured it out, I rarely got penalized.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:39

    Apparently, there are people who are starting not to like them, with their current domination of F1. I think some of them hated it from the start, but are just going public with it now. It shouldn't be allowed, but what can ya do?

    I find myself very conflicted because at the end of Monaco I was happy that Jenson won it, but disappointed that it was so easy for them.

    You have to look at it from the 'He bloody well deserves it' perspective ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:40

    Everyone's entitled to their own opinion :)

    No matter how wrong it may be *runs away*

    :)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:40

    You have to look at it from the 'He bloody well deserves it' perspective ;)

    But at the same time, any fan would want to see an exciting race. Which is why I understand Christine's perspective. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:40

    It isn't much effort at all.

    It is when I should be working !

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 10:40

    Driving lesson time, blowtorch at the ready, see you guys in a bit :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:40

    Apparently, there are people who are starting not to like them, with their current domination of F1. I think some of them hated it from the start, but are just going public with it now. It shouldn’t be allowed, but what can ya do

    I'm sad to say I'm one of the ones that doesn't like them!

    Somethings wrong when they do 1 test and then dominate all year. It's like at school when you spend all week preparing for a test then some smary geek does not revision at all and still gets higher grades. I'm stuck between being patriotic and yet not actually liking Button at all.

    You sound like my Uncle now... and that ain't good :(

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 10:41

    Driving lesson time, blowtorch at the ready, see you guys in a bit :P

    good luck!

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 10:41

    Good luck Lukeh!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:42

    I hear this a lot, but I don't view them as a "new team" as such. I know their last minute rescue was great, but to me they're pretty much still Honda.

    Disagree. If it were still Honda they wouldn't be half as innovative and I doubt they would be able to win races. Small team with big money - the best of both worlds innit?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:43

    If anyone wants a read on the Wii F1 2009 game, and a few new screenshots, check this out:

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/f1-2009-hands-on

    It's a good detailed read into what to expect. It doesn't look the most beautiful game to look at al all to be honest but they're accomadating for both casual fans wanting a quick play and hardcore fans wanting the full experience (strategy, fuel, full weekend, etc) which is good for the Wii :)

    Wii Racing games suck. Avoid.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:44

    BMW to introduce DDD in Turkey.

    http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/05/26/bmw-sauber-to-introduce-multi-level-diffuser-in-turkey/

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:44

    hear this a lot, but I don’t view them as a “new team” as such. I know their last minute rescue was great, but to me they’re pretty much still Honda.

    Oh yeah I don't view them as ''new'' as such, but they are new to winning grands prix. I probably will become bored of it though but not before Silverstone hopefully!

    3 weeks and 4 days *giddy*

    Silverstone is early this year isn't it?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:45

    Thats all I can think of... so yeah, 15 is quite the assistance!

    I heart being able to see the racing line, I am so rubbish at finding them. As long as I have that, I'm OK.

    A good rule of thumb is to approach the corner from the outside line, turning in and hitting the apex mid corner and aiming for the outside of the corner on the exit. Takes some practice and you end up feeling your way through...

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 10:48

    BMW to introduce DDD in Turkey.

    it couldn't hurt could it? I'm waiting for the TDD and the QDD....

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 10:48

    Disagree. If it were still Honda they wouldn’t be half as innovative and I doubt they would be able to win races. Small team with big money - the best of both worlds innit?

    I look at Brawn and think 'this is what Honda could have been without the japanese upper management' I know Honda have a decent motor racing history but they were '' mal misorganised'' when it came to actually running a works F1 team, I would love to see Brawn win at Suzuka.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:49

    I look at Brawn and think 'this is what Honda could have been without the japanese upper management' I know Honda have a decent motor racing history but they were '' mal misorganised'' when it came to actually running a works F1 team, I would love to see Brawn win at Suzuka.

    That's a bloody good assessment I reckon!

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 10:52

    *blushes*

    Im getting star struck again! it's the ACTUAL Gavin Brown off the podcast!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:52

    That's a bloody good assessment I reckon!

    Suzuka has fast corners - not sure if they can hold off the Red Bulls here. Then again, we don't know the rate of development by then. :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 10:53

    Im getting star struck again! it's the ACTUAL Gavin Brown off the podcast!

    Gavin! You're famous now! :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 10:59

    That's a bloody good assessment I reckon!

    Suzuka has fast corners - not sure if they can hold off the Red Bulls here. Then again, we don't know the rate of development by then. :D

    I guess we'll find out after Turkey on that one. Looks like it's going to be a proper litmus test for Red Bull and BMW with their super-duper-double-deck-diffuser-designs!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:00

    Im getting star struck again! it's the ACTUAL Gavin Brown off the podcast!

    Gavin! You're famous now! :D

    Does this mean someone will make a fake twitter account in my name? ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:02

    *blushes*

    Im getting star struck again! it's the ACTUAL Gavin Brown off the podcast!

    Along with the ACTUAL everyone else in here that's been on the podcast? ;)

    Speaking of which, you should be on a panel next season - they're loads of fun!

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 11:02

    Silverstone is early this year isn’t it?

    June 21st I beleive is race day, is sidepodcast to be present at Silverstone?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:03

    Along with the ACTUAL everyone else in here that's been on the podcast? ;)

    :D

    Speaking of which, you should be on a panel next season - they're loads of fun!

    Agreed! :) This is a community as much as it as a podcast site. :D

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 11:03

    Apparently, there are people who are starting not to like them, with their current domination of F1. I think some of them hated it from the start, but are just going public with it now. It shouldn’t be allowed, but what can ya do

    I’m sad to say I’m one of the ones that doesn’t like them!

    Somethings wrong when they do 1 test and then dominate all year. It’s like at school when you spend all week preparing for a test then some smary geek does not revision at all and still gets higher grades. I’m stuck between being patriotic and yet not actually liking Button at all.

    You sound like my Uncle now… and that ain’t good

    How can we say we don't like them without sounding like an uncle! Usually it's not enough to just say you don't like them!

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 11:04

    Speaking of which, you should be on a panel next season - they're loads of fun!

    Hosting is fun because you get to make people do stupid things :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:05

    Silverstone is early this year isn’t it?

    June 21st I beleive is race day, is sidepodcast to be present at Silverstone?

    Apparently not but some people will be attending...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:05

    Hosting is fun because you get to make people do stupid things :D

    Now here's an example of someone who really dived in - Amy only became active 2 months ago! :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:07

    How can we say we don't like them without sounding like an uncle! Usually it's not enough to just say you don't like them!

    Ah no it's just what you said is remarkably similar to what he said... and it was very much a case of he didn't like Brawn winning because they were too new and the 'proper teams' were disadvantaged in some way...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:08

    Ah no it's just what you said is remarkably similar to what he said... and it was very much a case of he didn't like Brawn winning because they were too new and the 'proper teams' were disadvantaged in some way...

    Disadvantaged? They were just too slow to take advantage of the new rules.

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 11:08

    Along with the ACTUAL everyone else in here that’s been on the podcast?

    Speaking of which, you should be on a panel next season - they’re loads of fun!

    Id definately be interested in being on a panel, it really does come across that you are all having fun and it is fun to listen to aswell.

    Everyone else is great on the panel too but for some reason you and Steven Roy are quite distinctive, you seem to be the regulars that is perhaps why.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 11:08

    June 21st I beleive is race day, is sidepodcast to be present at Silverstone?

    Sadly not this year. As Gavin said, there are some Sidepodpeeps going though, and perhaps an unofficial meetup will occur.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:08

    Disadvantaged? They were just too slow to take advantage of the new rules.

    And I'm saying that as a Ferrari fan...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 11:08

    Apparently, there are people who are starting not to like them, with their current domination of F1. I think some of them hated it from the start, but are just going public with it now. It shouldn’t be allowed, but what can ya do

    I’m sad to say I’m one of the ones that doesn’t like them!

    Somethings wrong when they do 1 test and then dominate all year. It’s like at school when you spend all week preparing for a test then some smary geek does not revision at all and still gets higher grades. I’m stuck between being patriotic and yet not actually liking Button at all.

    I don't think anyone hates them, and i think everyone acknowleges that it's one amazing thing they've done with that car. but i think lots of people want to see other people win, and are getting bored of the same car winning each race.

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 11:09

    Ah no it’s just what you said is remarkably similar to what he said… and it was very much a case of he didn’t like Brawn winning because they were too new and the ‘proper teams’ were disadvantaged in some way

    They aren't new though are they! Only had a whole year and 3 wind tunnels working all through 2008

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:09

    Raikkonen's form delights Ferrari boss

    Last sentence is a big deal:

    "On a track where talent is important Kimi has shown what he is able to do."

    Ferrari just threw another hand-crafted spanner into the works!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:09

    I don't think anyone hates them

    Go to F1F or any other F1 forum, and you'll see more than a few Brawn haters - and they're the annoying type, more often than not. Sad but true.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:10

    Ferrari just threw another hand-crafted spanner into the works!

    Explain?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:10

    Disadvantaged? They were just too slow to take advantage of the new rules.

    Yeah well I totally disagreed with him - he actually admitted he only cares if Ferrari wins :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:11

    I don't think anyone hates them, and i think everyone acknowleges that it's one amazing thing they've done with that car. but i think lots of people want to see other people win, and are getting bored of the same car winning each race.

    Which is why I think F1 fans may be whinging a bit. We were sad for Jenson last year, now we're happy, now we're bored of him winning? Confused over here!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:11

    Yeah well I totally disagreed with him - he actually admitted he only cares if Ferrari wins :(

    I'm a Ferrari fan, but they were too slow to take advantage. They may have also been deceived by how well they fared in preseason testing, where many thought they were the only ones close to the Brawns...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:13

    Which is why I think F1 fans may be whinging a bit. We were sad for Jenson last year, now we're happy, now we're bored of him winning? Confused over here!

    Do they all refer to the same group of people/fans? Are those happy people bored now? Were these bored people ever happy? I think we can't generalize in this case.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 11:13

    Which is why I think F1 fans may be whinging a bit. We were sad for Jenson last year, now we're happy, now we're bored of him winning? Confused over here!

    I wanted to see Jenson win again, but he was just one name on my long list of 'people I want to see win soon'

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:13

    Ferrari just threw another hand-crafted spanner into the works!

    Explain?

    A lot of journos are certain that Kimi is leaving at the end of the year and Alonso is taking his place. The weird thing is, you get the impression the team aren't happy with his performance and then Luca sings his praises? Ferrari are sending mixed messages this year...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 11:14

    Which is why I think F1 fans may be whinging a bit. We were sad for Jenson last year, now we're happy, now we're bored of him winning? Confused over here!

    No, not bored of him winning, it's great, but after all the hype of these new regs that were going to make overtaking better, 1 driver has won 5 races, and it dosent matter who that driver is, it could be massa for all i care, but after a while it just gets a bit boring

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 11:14

    I was optimistic that Williams would be competitive after seeing their pre season times, it turns out they were doing free practice simulations :-(

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:14

    This will make Christine happy. ;)

    Unnamed Energy Drink Cola News: Said cola has been banned in some parts of Germany...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:14

    I'm a Ferrari fan, but they were too slow to take advantage. They may have also been deceived by how well they fared in preseason testing, where many thought they were the only ones close to the Brawns...

    But you still watch F1 if they don't win, right?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:15

    A lot of journos are certain that Kimi is leaving at the end of the year and Alonso is taking his place. The weird thing is, you get the impression the team aren't happy with his performance and then Luca sings his praises? Ferrari are sending mixed messages this year...

    It's because nothing is set in stone yet. As long as Kimi meets the targets, he can stay. If he doesn't, he'll be sent off. But right now, Alonso may or may not be in a red car in 2010.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:15

    But you still watch F1 if they don't win, right?

    I'm still here, right? ;)

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 11:15

    I wanted to see Jenson win again, but he was just one name on my long list of 'people I want to see win soon'

    Exactly, it's been great to see him win, but i also want to see Heikki, Rubens, Vettel, Webber, Alonso, Glock, Kubica, Heidfeld etc win too.

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 11:15

    Sadly not this year. As Gavin said, there are some Sidepodpeeps going though, and perhaps an unofficial meetup will occur.

    No need for me to buy an autograph book then :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:16

    Do they all refer to the same group of people/fans? Are those happy people bored now? Were these bored people ever happy? I think we can't generalize in this case.

    You may be right there. Funnily enough, I'm not bored yet but that may change if this carries on. I have doubts that Red Bull, Mclaren or Ferrari will not be in a position to win at some point though...

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 11:17

    Exactly, it's been great to see him win, but i also want to see Heikki, Rubens, Vettel, Webber, Alonso, Glock, Kubica, Heidfeld etc win too.

    Jenson and Seb were both on my list, but there are 8 names still on the "i want to win in 2009" list

    Heikki, Kimi, Nick, Fernando, Jarno, Timo, Mark and Rubens.

    You're running out of races boys!

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 11:17

    Verstappen's doing a good job in the Aston Martin LMP1 car.

    He's wrecked it.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:17

    This will make Christine happy. ;)

    Unnamed Energy Drink Cola News: Said cola has been banned in some parts of Germany...

    'Zat iz becoz ze taste iz like old spulewasser, ja?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:17

    You may be right there. Funnily enough, I'm not bored yet but that may change if this carries on. I have doubts that Red Bull, McLaren or Ferrari will not be in a position to win at some point though...

    Brawn's streak may end in Turkey - the track should favor Red Bull, and Massa's won the last 3 races there.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:17

    But you still watch F1 if they don't win, right?

    I'm still here, right? ;)

    Exactly.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:17

    'Zat iz becoz ze taste iz like old spulewasser, ja?

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:18

    I was optimistic that Williams would be competitive after seeing their pre season times, it turns out they were doing free practice simulations :-(

    Sadly their form for the last few years :(

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 11:18

    Go to F1F or any other F1 forum, and you’ll see more than a few Brawn haters - and they’re the annoying type, more often than not. Sad but true.

    It's hard to be Brawn negative without being labelled as bitter/jealous/fanboy etc

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 11:19

    This will make Christine happy. ;)

    Unnamed Energy Drink Cola News: Said cola has been banned in some parts of Germany...

    Tests showed it contained cocaine. :D

    Watch the sales in the rest of europe rocket

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 11:19

    Tests showed it contained cocaine. :D

    Watch the sales in the rest of europe rocket

    haha ,thats hilarious

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:19

    'Zat iz becoz ze taste iz like old spulewasser, ja?

    Kathi's going to kill me for that - Sorry!

    It just shows the Germans have impeccable taste!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:20

    It's hard to be Brawn negative without being labelled as bitter/jealous/fanboy etc

    Well, you can say that it's getting boring because we have yet to see other winners. But when people say they hate Brawn because they keep on winning, that does strike me to be coming from a bitter mouth...

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 11:20

    Tests showed it contained cocaine. :D

    Watch the sales in the rest of europe rocket

    Wow, really?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:20

    Kathi's going to kill me for that - Sorry!

    Get ready to be tugged by the ear. :P

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 11:21

    Well, you can say that it's getting boring because we have yet to see other winners. But when people say they hate Brawn because they keep on winning, that does strike me to be coming from a bitter mouth...

    Sounds right, most people just want to see a mixed F1, where there are other winners, or atleast 2 main winners like last year.

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 11:21

    Wow, really?

    Yup.

    Linky

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 11:22

    It’s hard to be Brawn negative without being labelled as bitter/jealous/fanboy etc

    Well, you can say that it’s getting boring because we have yet to see other winners. But when people say they hate Brawn because they keep on winning, that does strike me to be coming from a bitter mouth…

    That I can defo see, is it not enough though to just not like them wihtout needing a reason?

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 11:22

    'Zat iz becoz ze taste iz like old spulewasser, ja?

    Spuelwasser and we don't say 'ja' at the end but 'oder'

    also: *clips you round the ear*

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 11:23

    also: *clips you round the ear*

    :D

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 11:23

    That I can defo see, is it not enough though to just not like them wihtout needing a reason?

    I don't like Williams and I don't even know why :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:23

    That I can defo see, is it not enough though to just not like them wihtout needing a reason?

    If you mean not like as in "don't care", sure. If you mean not like as in "hate", there has to be a reason. :P

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:23

    also: *clips you round the ear*

    :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:26

    'Zat iz becoz ze taste iz like old spulewasser, ja?

    Spuelwasser and we don't say 'ja' at the end but 'oder'

    also: *clips you round the ear*

    Cheers Kathi. I just had a funny picture of a German bureaucrat from the health department tasting the stuff and spitting it out across the room!

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 11:34

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    If you mean not like as in “don’t care”, sure. If you mean not like as in “hate”, there has to be a reason.

    Didn't think of it like that, I obviously can't speak for everyone but I just generally dislike them, along with an increasingly annoying Bourdais (I can't stand his whining anymore)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:36

    Didn't think of it like that, I obviously can't speak for everyone but I just generally dislike them...

    Hmmm... Alright. So no specific reason, then?

    ...along with an increasingly annoying Bourdais (I can't stand his whining anymore)

    I know this woman who feels the same... ;)

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 11:37

    I don’t like Williams and I don’t even know why

    Constant disappointment perhaps? I could go on and on about how lame they are when it actually comes to racing pace. Why make themselves look stupid by posting fastest practices times constantly then sweet F A in the race?!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:39

    I just received this: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/26/usf1-boss-peter-windsor-confirms-deal-for-cosworth-engines-in-20/#comments

    The source is F1-Live via a GMM story. What's the story? :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:40

    The source is F1-Live via a GMM story. What's the story? :D

    *true story?

  • RCC (aka rockingcopsecorner)26/05/2009 at 11:41

    Hmmm… Alright. So no specific reason, then?

    Strictly speaking I dislike Button, always have, I aint got no beef with the team at all. Button has just annoyed me through his career. It'd take me hours to explain

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:42

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/05/26/on-the-road/

    Apparently the crowd was up to 40% down! Man, that's a big hit!

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 11:43

    Apparently the crowd was up to 40% down! Man, that's a big hit!

    and 70% for VIP hospitality? That is huge

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 11:44

    Apparently the crowd was up to 40% down! Man, that's a big hit!

    and 70% for VIP hospitality? That is huge

    Especially when this event makes Monaco!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:45

    Apparently the crowd was up to 40% down! Man, that's a big hit!

    and 70% for VIP hospitality? That is huge

    I think a large part of those numbers are because these people are sent by sponsors. That's one of the first things that get cut in belt-tightening times. Those numbers will go up again once the recession ends.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:46

    Wow. This really isn't Ron's house anymore.

    McLaren feels [it is] 'peacemaker' in FIA row

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 11:46

    I think a large part of those numbers are because these people are sent by sponsors. That's one of the first things that get cut in belt-tightening times. Those numbers will go up again once the recession ends.

    yeah thats what happened here, BMW I think it was normally sends like 1500 people and this year they had 0. It's nice to know the recession can affect a place like Monaco as much as it can Melbourne :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:47

    yeah thats what happened here, BMW I think it was normally sends like 1500 people and this year they had 0. It's nice to know the recession can affect a place like Monaco as much as it can Melbourne :D

    that said, i fear what crowds we'll see in Singapore... :(

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 11:49

    that said, i fear what crowds we'll see in Singapore... :(

    Might be a cheap option

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 11:50

    Back from driving :) that went too well, suspiciously well, didn't make one error and my instructor said I had become far more confident in my ability and calmness on the road, woo!!

    3 now till the big test...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:51

    Might be a cheap option

    It is in terms of planes. I hope the ticketers and the hoteliers follow suit, though.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:51

    3 now till the big test...

    You can do it, Lukeh! :D

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 11:51

    Back from driving :) that went too well, suspiciously well, didn't make one error and my instructor said I had become far more confident in my ability and calmness on the road, woo!!

    You sound like Jenson

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 11:52

    You sound like Jenson

    what can I say, Brawn have inspired my driving... :P

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 11:52

    what can I say, Brawn have inspired my driving... :P

    Should be easy at the front then!

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 11:53

    3 now till the big test...

    You can do it, Lukeh! :D

    3 more until you pass :)

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 11:55

    what can I say, Brawn have inspired my driving... :P

    you wont be saying that when jenson and rubens punt each other off in turkey :P

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 11:56

    what i don’t get, is that you can replace all the gears in the gearbox and not get a penalty, but when i’ve rebuilt gearbox’s the only other thing apart from gears is bearings, and a whole lot of oil, so why would you replace the whole gearbox beacuse you’re basically getting a penalty for changing the gearbox casing? {Comment #60}

    The non-penalty only applies if the gearbox gear change is before qualifying. The bearings can't be changed, so if one ends up in the wrong place...

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 11:56

    you wont be saying that when jenson and rubens punt each other off in turkey :P

    You're crazy jon, did I mention how crazy that is?

    Pure crazy.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 11:57

    You're crazy jon, did I mention how crazy that is?

    it's gonna happen at somepoint, and when it does, i'm going to be right here linking back to this comment ;)

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 11:57

    you wont be saying that when jenson and rubens punt each other off in turkey :P

    One can only hope, for the championship sake. I still think Jenson/brawn have it won

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:58

    it's gonna happen at somepoint, and when it does, i'm going to be right here linking back to this comment ;)

    I don't think Rubens has ever collided with any of his teammates. No reason for that to start now... :P

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 11:58

    LOL. Just listening to PK complain about the "young F1 drivers" again :-) :-)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 11:59

    http://mantovani.zip.net/

    Rubens is Employee of the Month! :D

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 11:59

    I don't think Rubens has ever collided with any of his teammates. No reason for that to start now... :P

    Yeah he just takes everyone out else instead and still survives!

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 11:59
  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 11:59

    I don't think Rubens has ever collided with any of his teammates. No reason for that to start now... :P

    thats because he'd have been hung drawn quatred, shot by firing squad, cut up a bit more, then boiled in a pirana tank for a day, and then finely chopped again, if he'd done it at ferrari

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 11:59

    Rubens is Employee of the Month! :D

    poor zombie rubens :(

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:00

    poor zombie rubens :(

    those red eyes don't make him look like a zombie anymore... they make him look like he just cried...

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 12:01

    why is that a nightmare? i had a strange dream that there was a grand prix at my school last night… but i like your dream better!

    I dreamed of TheLastDoctor turning up in the middle of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix (or at least I think it was that one because I didn't recognise the s). No Sidepodcast or fake Twitter account involvement though, possibly because I only spent five hours asleep last night...

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:02

    those red eyes don't make him look like a zombie anymore... they make him look like he just cried...

    true :( http://mantovani.zip.net/images/barrichello_2009.jpg was my favourite one he has ever done :D

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:02

    This Monaco GP is quite boring when you know the result......

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 12:02

    true :( http://mantovani.zip.net/images/barrichello_2009.jpg was my favourite one he has ever done :D

    Makes me want to sing Thriller...

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:03

    Makes me want to sing Thriller...

    :-)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:03

    This Monaco GP is quite boring when you know the result......

    Hehe. When I watch replays, I use other commentaries so that it's not as boring and you might learn something new. :D

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:03

    Makes me want to sing Thriller...

    new podium dance for Barrichello? :D:D

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:04

    Hehe. When I watch replays, I use other commentaries so that it's not as boring and you might learn something new. :D

    Sadly the option is the Aussis who but in for 5 minutes after the commercials with stupid comments. Makes Legard sound informed

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:05

    Hehe. When I watch replays, I use other commentaries so that it's not as boring and you might learn something new. :D

    I do that too, I download the 5 Live one and try it with that :D

    Sadly the option is the Aussis who but in for 5 minutes after the commercials with stupid comments. Makes Legard sound informed

    I should do an audio special of the great things they come up with.

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:06

    I do that too, I download the 5 Live one and try it with that :D

    How on earth?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:06

    How did THAT happen? I posted on the wrong threat in LCLT! :D

    sparetomato on Twitter is looking for "some decent #f1 blogs other than vee8, F1Wolf and F1Fanatic".

    Quick, someone tell him about SPC! :D

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:07

    How on earth?

    the mp3 turns up on [redacted], and I have the bbc video so I mute Legard/Brundle and play the mp3 to match up with it :)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:08

    the mp3 turns up on [redacted], and I have the bbc video so I mute Legard/Brundle and play the mp3 to match up with it :)

    cool! how big is the mp3 file?

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:08

    the mp3 turns up on [redacted], and I have the bbc video so I mute Legard/Brundle and play the mp3 to match up with it :)

    Ah, hadn't realised that.

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:09

    Why does Cameron Mcconville need to relate EVERYTHING to Mark Webber?

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 12:09

    Why does Cameron Mcconville need to relate EVERYTHING to Mark Webber?

    ...the world doesn't revolve around marky anymore?

    Damn, I need to adjust my goals in life.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:09

    cool! how big is the mp3 file?

    the monaco race is 73mb

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:10

    Why does Cameron Mcconville need to relate EVERYTHING to Mark Webber?

    because he is the messiah

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 12:10

    Damn, I need to adjust my goals in life.

    I read that as I need to adjust my goats in life

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 12:10

    because he is the messiah

    He's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:10

    Why does Cameron Mcconville need to relate EVERYTHING to Mark Webber?

    Because he thinks all Aussie F1 fans are Webber fans...

    the monaco race is 73mb

    Not bad... Now if I could only find a race replay on JTV...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:10

    the mp3 turns up on [redacted], and I have the bbc video so I mute Legard/Brundle and play the mp3 to match up with it :)

    you could also use the iplayer...the less imoral way lol

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 12:11

    I read that as I need to adjust my goats in life

    No I'll sort them out at a later date

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:11

    you could also use the iplayer...the less imoral way lol

    Not from Oz

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:11

    you could also use the iplayer...the less imoral way lol

    shes in Australia, Jon.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:11

    He's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy

    :D

    now where have i heard that from

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:11

    you could also use the iplayer...the less imoral way lol

    i can't be bothered going to the effort of trying to get around the geolock :D

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:11

    shes in Australia, Jon.

    oh ok

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 12:11

    No I'll sort them out at a later date

    Good to hear.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:11

    the mp3 turns up on [redacted], and I have the bbc video so I mute Legard/Brundle and play the mp3 to match up with it :)

    Boo for mentioning the site here!

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:12

    Boo for mentioning the site here!

    Agreeeeeeeed

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:12

    Why does Cameron Mcconville need to relate EVERYTHING to Mark Webber?

    I hate that man! JA down under!

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:12

    Because he thinks all Aussie F1 fans are Webber fans...

    The funniest thing I saw at the Grand Prix was the look of relief on the McLaren staffers face when I said "It's OK, I'm not Australian" after he said "wouldn't it be great if Mark won here"

    Instead we had a good chat about Bruce. Bruce > Mark :D

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:13

    Boo for mentioning the site here!

    is it an unmentionable? I did not knooooow!

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 12:13

    because he is the messiah

    He's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy

    Because if you vaguely followed F1 in Australia, Mark was talked about as a future star for years on tv. It was nice to follow him through, just like the seeing Lewis in those old magazine for the last 10 years. But more accurately, journalism always works like that. If something happens overseas, for two days that's fine reporting the drama, but then you need to find someone that is from the area where the story will be shown, otherwise people think it is too far away and not relevant. I don't agree with this but journos tell me this happens.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:14

    Boo for mentioning the site here!

    is it an unmentionable? I did not knooooow!

    You're supposed to keep it a secret. Hopefully Mr. C. will edit the posts!

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:14

    The funniest thing I saw at the Grand Prix was the look of relief on the McLaren staffers face when I said "It's OK, I'm not Australian" after he said "wouldn't it be great if Mark won here"

    Instead we had a good chat about Bruce. Bruce > Mark :D

    Hey we aren't ALL Webber fans...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:14

    is it an unmentionable? I did not knooooow!

    i think it's an unwritten unmensionable

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:14

    Instead we had a good chat about Bruce. Bruce > Mark :D

    Diehard McLaren fan right there. :D

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:14

    i think it's an unwritten unmensionable

    ah, i found out about its existance from the comments here :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:15

    Do you remember the guy Timo Glock replaced in his F1 debut?

    He wants to come back...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:15

    ah, i found out about its existance from the comments here :D

    *raises hand* that would be my fault then... :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:15

    Instead we had a good chat about Bruce. Bruce > Mark :D

    Diehard McLaren fan right there. :D

    Bruce Mclaren is the most under-loved of the Kiwi sporting heroes :(

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 12:15

    You're supposed to keep it a secret. Hopefully Mr. C. will edit the posts!

    I can if you want?

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:16

    *raises hand* that would be my fault then... :D

    You = awesome ;)

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 12:16

    I can if you want?

    take out all the ones where I saw something stupid. at least one or two will remain :)

    for a secret, you guys have told a lot of people....

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:16

    So apparently i can listen to the radio iPlayer. I didn't realise. Maybe this means I can listen to the 5 live commentary!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:17

    You're supposed to keep it a secret. Hopefully Mr. C. will edit the posts!

    I can if you want?

    It would be a good idea I reckon.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 12:17

    Do you remember the guy Timo Glock replaced in his F1 debut?

    nope i forgot him. he can fight with Jacques..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:17

    Actually you can! I don't think that is geo-locked. The only problem is to do so you often spoil the result...

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:18

    Do you remember the guy Timo Glock replaced in his F1 debut?

    he is destined for a lifetime of GP2, that man.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 12:18

    So apparently i can listen to the radio iPlayer. I didn't realise. Maybe this means I can listen to the 5 live commentary!

    pretty sure no Paul. some options are not available on the radio, but I might be wrong. i tried it to and eventually i realised radio had similar things to the tv - i am not in uk either.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:18

    So apparently i can listen to the radio iPlayer. I didn't realise. Maybe this means I can listen to the 5 live commentary!

    I tried. Didn't work. Gave me a random 4-minute SPL clip.

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:18

    pretty sure no Paul. some options are not available on the radio, but I might be wrong. i tried it to and eventually i realised radio had similar things to the tv - i am not in uk either.

    Hmmmm. I dont understand. It says I can listen to the radio replays. Maybe not the live stuff

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:19

    he is destined for a lifetime of GP2, that man.

    Campos seem interested to take him back to F1.

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:19

    I tried. Didn't work. Gave me a random 4-minute SPL clip.

    Ah well. BAck to the unmentionable then

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:19

    pretty sure no Paul. some options are not available on the radio, but I might be wrong. i tried it to and eventually i realised radio had similar things to the tv - i am not in uk either.

    there's a link, all right, but for some reason, it didn't give me monaco. it gave me scotland...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:19

    Hmmmm. I dont understand. It says I can listen to the radio replays. Maybe not the live stuff

    I think it's possible... It has been in the past...

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:20

    there's a link, all right, but for some reason, it didn't give me monaco. it gave me scotland...

    :-)

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:21

    Why does it need real player for goodness sake?!

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 12:21

    Actually you can! I don't think that is geo-locked. The only problem is to do so you often spoil the result...

    it must be nice to live in a site where you can have live tv and good commentary in synch! sadly, not for me it seems wherever i live...well i can but cannot understand some of it. following the race is easy, it's the technical stuff i don't tend to follow.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:22

    Why does it need real player for goodness sake?!

    Don't ask me. It used to be more lenient in previous versions - any version that can play Real will do. Not anymore...

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:23

    Why does it need real player for goodness sake?!

    I downloaded real player solely to hear Christines radio debut. Now I'm scared to uninstall it in case something else happens on BBC Tees I need to hear.

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:23

    Don't ask me. It used to be more lenient in previous versions - any version that can play Real will do. Not anymore...

    I don't want to infect my computer with that program

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 12:24

    Ah well. BAck to the unmentionable then

    how does one, ahem...get an access thingy for this?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:24

    I don't want to infect my computer with that program

    I only got to listen to iPlayer again today - my work laptop has it pre-installed. Might as well take advantage of it...

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 12:24

    I’ve had the odd dream from time to time. But it’s only happened to me twice or thrice. {Comment #167}

    I get quite a lot of F1 racing dreams, though most of them wouldn't interest you since they're either mental replays of races that have already happened or ones that appear to be a extension of the analysis process I go through when, for example, I see the weights after qualifying.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:24

    how does one, ahem...get an access thingy for this?

    erm... pop me or Amy an email directly. Let's sort it out there.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:24

    erm... pop me or Amy an email directly. Let's sort it out there.

    Or me.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:25

    Time for a shower me thinks....

    haven't got out of bed for 2 days.....holidays are bad for me...

  • Paul26/05/2009 at 12:25

    My battery is about to run out. Night folks..

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:25

    My battery is about to run out. Night folks..

    Night Paul.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 12:25

    My battery is about to run out. Night folks..

    Night

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 12:25

    erm... pop me or Amy an email directly. Let's sort it out there.

    okay can someone write to me saybekatrocketmailcom thanks. this account if used for spam so i got no worries about sticking on this website

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 12:26

    My battery is about to run out. Night folks..

    see you later Paul

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:26

    My battery is about to run out. Night folks..

    Night!

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:26

    Night Paul

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 12:29

    I just kind of caught up with all the Brawn debate from earlier.

    !LONG COMMENT ALERT!

    I like Jenson but I don't think he's as good a driver as some of the others on the field. However, some are saying that Jenson doesn't deserve to win. It's difficult for me to understand what "deserve" means when this season shows so strongly how important the car is to a driver.

    It's fair to say that Lewis beat / is beating Hekki pretty easily. And depending on your opinion he beat Alonso in his rookie season (if you don't believe that bit then read the sentence as "he got very close to Alonso in his rookie season"). Jenson hasn't really been able to dominate his team-mates. That has always worried me about him.

    Jenson deserved a win (or several) to make up for all the years of terrible cars that he had. But then people started asking the uncomfortable question... Does he deserve to win the world championship. Like they did with Massa last year.

    It's the same question people have been asking about Brawn earlier. Do they deserve to win when they just arrived in the sport?

    The answer to all of these questions is very simple for me. Formula 1 is not a driver sport, it's a team sport. The team works together. The team are hugely influential on the drivers performance.

    Jenson had faith in Ross Brawn. Brawn knew that if he built Jenson a good car he could win the championship. They, as a unit, have pulled off possibly the largest upset in F1 history. And people are asking if he or they deserve the championship?

    Regardless of the jokes that people make, your granny could not drive an F1 car. It is hard to do. But a large part of the sport is working as a leader in your team. It's what Schumacher did before and in many ways it's what Jenson is doing over at Brawn. He is the lead driver at Brawn.

    Lewis works for McLaren, the mechanics don't seem to look up to him. Who do the mechanics look up to at Ferrari? Nobody. The mechanics are unled. They don't want to do it for their driver. But I bet everyone in that Brawn team over the off season knows how much Jenson committed himself to that team. They know that he cut his salary to keep the team going. They were working for their driver.

    That doesn't make Jenson a faster driver, no. But it might well make him a better driver. And Brawn definitely deserve it.

    As Bernie said when Ferrari won all those times, "it's not Ferrari's fault they are so fast, it's everyone else's fault that they are all too slow".

    But yes the racing isn't very close, moment to moment, the racing isn't as exciting as it could be. But what Brawn are doing as a whole really is very exciting. At least it is to me.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:30

    But yes the racing isn't very close, moment to moment, the racing isn't as exciting as it could be. But what Brawn are doing as a whole really is very exciting. At least it is to me.

    This. Well done Alex!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:31

    But yes the racing isn't very close, moment to moment, the racing isn't as exciting as it could be. But what Brawn are doing as a whole really is very exciting. At least it is to me.

    Agreed! :)

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 12:31

    I hadn’t realised that Vijay Mallya is also a Doctor. People always refer to Dr Mario Theissen but I haven’t really seen them refer to Dr Vijay Mallya. {Comment #220}

    Possibly because people have an image of PhD holders that does not include hosting parties on the largest boat in Monaco harbour or wearing vast amounts of "bling". Then again, people with honourary doctorates don't often use their titles, otherwise certain parts of the celebrity world would be littered with doctors.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:32

    Scott, Amy, email sent. :)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:33

    Jenson had faith in Ross Brawn. Brawn knew that if he built Jenson a good car he could win the championship. They, as a unit, have pulled off possibly the largest upset in F1 history. And people are asking if he or they deserve the championship?

    Yup, if they finish the job, this will easily be the biggest upset in F1 history.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 12:35

    Have gone through and edited all unwanted occurrances of the U word. They stretched back quite a way, so please can we try and be more vigilant if this is something we don't want to promote.

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 12:35

    “Just two full ones”…is it as massive a job as I think it is? {Comment #248}

    I have Harry Potter books 2 and 3 on audio. They are around 10 hours each - and remember that there will, every so often, be the need for multiple takes and breaks to get pages turned.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:36

    Have gone through and edited all unwanted occurrances of the U word. They stretched back quite a way, so please can we try and be more vigilant if this is something we don't want to promote.

    Sorry, Christine. Thanks for the edits. :)

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:36

    Have gone through and edited all unwanted occurrances of the U word. They stretched back quite a way, so please can we try and be more vigilant if this is something we don't want to promote.

    Thankyou! Now that I know, I shall not do it again.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:36

    BTW, Gavin, Amy and I ran into some difficulties. Can you email Scott instead? Would appreciate it. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:37

    Jenson had faith in Ross Brawn. Brawn knew that if he built Jenson a good car he could win the championship. They, as a unit, have pulled off possibly the largest upset in F1 history. And people are asking if he or they deserve the championship?

    I think those who say he's undeserving are those who think it's just the car that's good. True, having a good car helps but Jenson has still dominated the field and his teammate so he must be quite good. These people do not understand how bad his other cars were so they see him as lucky and undeserving.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 12:37

    Sorry, Christine. Thanks for the edits. :)

    Also sorted your wrong thread from earlier as well, Journeyer.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:38

    BTW, Gavin, Amy and I ran into some difficulties. Can you email Scott instead? Would appreciate it. :)

    Somebody please remind me later...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:38

    Also sorted your wrong thread from earlier as well, Journeyer.

    Yup, I saw it. Thanks for that, too. :D

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 12:40

    I'm downloading the whole commentary for the 2007 Britcar 24 hours....hmmm

    Long day ahead i fear

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 12:40

    Very good points there! Do they edit FIF1 and Williams on the Monday after the race, even if it’s recorded on Sunday? {Comment #285}

    I think FIF1's gets edited on Monday, possibly stretching into Tuesday (presumably depending on the length and complexity of the material to be edited).

    Annoyingly the Monaco ForceCast still isn't there...

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 12:44

    Somethings wrong when they do 1 test and then dominate all year. It’s like at school when you spend all week preparing for a test then some smary geek does not revision at all and still gets higher grades. I’m stuck between being patriotic and yet not actually liking Button at all. {Comment #320}

    As someone who found revision was usually counter-productive, I fell into that category. I don't think anyone hated me for exam success - the ones that did the hating already hated me for thinking exams were fun in the first place...

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 12:47

    you can’t not revise and still get an A for a subject when you never went to the lectures and had no knowledge of the subject in the first place {Comment #337}

    Did you sign up for a second degree in beverage studies then? That seemed to be a popular course where I studied (though there it was given a title of "drunken studies" because the few times some of the people "enrolled" turned up for their primary degree, they were either slightly drunk or nursing a hangover)...

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:49

    Did you sign up for a second degree in beverage studies then? That seemed to be a popular course where I studied (though there it was given a title of "drunken studies" because the few times some of the people "enrolled" turned up for their primary degree, they were either slightly drunk or nursing a hangover)...

    I am one of the most boring people ever, I only drink about twice a year, and even though I went to the notorious party-Uni, I was the same then too. I once got told I will look back and regret not "enjoying" my youth, but so far so good.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:50

    I am one of the most boring people ever, I only drink about twice a year, and even though I went to the notorious party-Uni, I was the same then too. I once got told I will look back and regret not "enjoying" my youth, but so far so good.

    As long as you're happy doing what you do, you'll have no regrets!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:50

    I was the same then too. I once got told I will look back and regret not "enjoying" my youth, but so far so good.

    You have us, Heikki, and F1 to thank for that. ;)

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:51

    As long as you're happy doing what you do, you'll have no regrets!

    I definitely have a lot more money to spend on fun things than my more "I go out 6 nights a week" friends ;)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 12:52

    I am one of the most boring people ever, I only drink about twice a year, and even though I went to the notorious party-Uni, I was the same then too. I once got told I will look back and regret not "enjoying" my youth, but so far so good.

    I'm the same. I'm happy with how I live my life, don't need a student reputation to live up to to enjoy myself :)

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:55

    You have us, Heikki, and F1 to thank for that. ;)

    Would you judge me if I said I was currently watching a review of Monaco from the Finnish broadcasters?

    I am awesome at this Finnish language thing.

    "Saimme varoituksen FIA:Ita. Älä leikkaa enää shikaaneja!" means "we have had another warning from the FIA, do not cut the chicane!" apparently.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 12:56

    Morning all, just discovered ive missed out on a mysterious U word... the mind boggles

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:56

    Does anyone understand Portuguese?

    ESPN Brazil reporting something very interesting...

    http://espnbrasil.terra.com.br/formula1/noticia/51966_REVISTA+APONTA+QUE+GOOGLE+PODE+SER+O+NOVO+PATROCINADOR+DA+BRAWN

    Key words: Google and Brawn

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:56

    I definitely have a lot more money to spend on fun things than my more "I go out 6 nights a week" friends ;)

    I'm the same. I'm happy with how I live my life, don't need a student reputation to live up to to enjoy myself :)

    Often the party types are actually the unhappy ones overcompensating anyway! Just be yourself, that's the easiest way to be happy. When you force yourself otherwise, that's when life is a drag!

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 12:57

    ESPN Brazil reporting something very interesting...

    Woah; surely not a google title sponsor?

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 12:58

    Woah; surely not a google title sponsor?

    that is lol considering Larry Page was in town as a guest of Vodafone :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 12:58

    Woah; surely not a google title sponsor?

    that is lol considering Larry Page was in town as a guest of Vodafone :D

    What's Brazilian for GMM? ;)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:58

    Woah; surely not a google title sponsor?

    I wanna read the article, but the page is taking forever to load.

    But if it's a title sponsor... I will just be awe-struck. And Richard Branson will be told to eat his heart out...

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 12:58

    As Gavin said, there are some Sidepodpeeps going though, and perhaps an unofficial meetup will occur. {Comment #389}

    With regard to that meet-up, I notice that of the three Sidepodpeeps confirmed in the wiki}, we all have Friday in common. Would Friday after second practise at the Copse E-Zone make sense, or should it be somewhere/somewhen different?

    I'd like to confirm a day/time quite soon because there are other people from around the internet I'd like to invite as well.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 12:59

    What's Brazilian for GMM? ;)

    Hey, it's ESPN, so it has some credibility to it. But I want to read the full article.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 13:01

    shall i post the translation?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:02

    shall i post the translation?

    sure. I see GPWEEK in it, though. *Rushes off to check current issue*.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 13:02

    eader of the world's construtotes the Brawn GP live a great moment within the tracks. However, behind the scenes the atmosphere is not so nice, especially with Richard Branson, owner of Virgin company, main sponsor of the team. According to the electronic magazine 'GPWeek', the team is not satisfied with the current payments and already looking for new investors, including Google.

    Larry Page, one of the founders of the website was seen in the race in Monaco, which raised the chances that he would be interested in sponsoring the leader of the Formula 1 season.

    Currently, it is speculated that Virgin pay U.S. $ 400 thousand per month (about U.S. $ 810 thousand) of exposure models in BGP 001, Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello, a figure considered low by Brawn GP.

    Another reason to shake the relationship between the two sides was the presence of Richard Branson in the motorhome of opponents of Red Bull during the race in Montecarlo.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 13:04

    Does anyone understand Portuguese?

    have translated it in google. Don't read too much into it, it is basically putting fuel on the rumours that were around this weekend that things aren't too peachy between Brawn GP and Branson... just cause he was seen in the Red Bull hospitality area (where loads of celebs could be found) during the weekend. It just says that Brawn GP are reportedly looking for other sponsors including Google. But tbh they obviously were going to look for other sponsors because they can now get a much better price than they could have done in Australia. Nothing to get excited about really.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:04

    sure. I see GPWEEK in it, though. *Rushes off to check current issue*.

    It's in there. Conjecture and Paddock gossip - nothing more solid than a few sightings...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:05

    Hmmm... much rumor, little substance.

    Remember too that Google was connected to this same franchise before. In its previous life as Honda, Google was being floated as a potential title sponsor for the Earthdreams program. Nothing came out of it...

  • lou26/05/2009 at 13:05

    i've been seeing these rumours all weekend, nothing in it atm though, they are just rumours.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 13:05

    Branson had dinner on Vijays boat, but they already have an airline sponsor, so i guess thats ignored...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:06

    i've been seeing these rumours all weekend, nothing in it atm though, they are just rumours.

    I believe Lou more than the article TBH...

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 13:06

    i've been seeing these rumours all weekend, nothing in it atm though, they are just rumours.

    fair enough. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:06

    Branson had dinner on Vijays boat, but they already have an airline sponsor, so i guess thats ignored...

    So Branson is gonna sponsor Red Bull AND Force India as well as Brawn?

    Wow, Formula Branson it is then!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:07

    I believe Lou more than the article TBH...

    Me too. :D

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 13:08

    Wow, Formula Branson it is then!

    If it is Bernie really will be in a pickle... :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:09

    If it is Bernie really will be in a pickle... :P

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:11

    Mr C has been working hard on the new version of the Live Commenting, Live... Thing. There's a lot of detail on the introductory post, however I can preface it with this: it's awesome. Basically, you have each section in moveable boxes and you can decide what you want where. Check it out now.

    Only awesome? It's 5 Pints of Awesome!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:12

    Only awesome? It's 5 Pints of Awesome!

    :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:12

    Apparently, Simon Gillett of Donington Park has been in trouble before...

  • Chris26/05/2009 at 13:15

    Only awesome? It's 5 Pints of Awesome!

    I'm wondering what Mr C has in store for the Doohickey to make it catch up with LCLT

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 13:16

    The source is F1-Live via a GMM story. What’s the story? {Comment #437}

    The story is that there are four deposits on the table, meaning that any team needing a cheap Cosworth supply (yes Williams, I mean you) can have one. If there'd been fewer than four deposits, then each contract would have been at a different rate, making it just like any other engine contract and possibly an unreachable price for some teams that might otherwise have been interested.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 13:16

    I'm wondering what Mr C has in store for the Doohickey to make it catch up with LCLT

    Not much, I don't think. The doohickey does it's job very well and has already had the bulk of the attention.

    It was the LCLT that needed to catch up.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:17

    Not much, I don't think. The doohickey does [its] job very well and has already had the bulk of the attention.

    Indeed. It's perfect for the iPhone. :D

  • Chris26/05/2009 at 13:18

    Not much, I don't think. The doohickey does it's job very well and has already had the bulk of the attention.

    Fair enough. I thought there were updates in store. There may still be, just not as... extreme as LCLT was.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 13:18

    Fair enough. I thought there were updates in store. There may still be, just not as... extreme as LCLT was.

    Absolutely. Neither are ever really finished.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:20

    Has it been mentioned that the teams asked for an extension beyond May 29, which the FIA denied?

    Source

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:21

    Fair enough. I thought there were updates in store. There may still be, just not as... extreme as LCLT was.

    Absolutely. Neither are ever really finished.

    nothing particularly exciting, unless anyone has ideas for new features?

    next on the list (after bug fixing) is:

    - site redesign

    - desktop doohickey

    in that order.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:21

    Has it been mentioned that the teams asked for an extension beyond May 29, which the FIA denied?

    Saw that yesterday, however....Max said they'd still accept entry's for the current teams after that if they were going to have a paddy about the rules...(i've paraphrased ;) ) so i'm a bit confused

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 13:22

    nothing particularly exciting, unless anyone has ideas for new features?

    Moveable boxes? ;)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:22

    in that order.

    sounds good to me. :) not that i see much of the site itself anymore. :D

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 13:22

    Has it been mentioned that the teams asked for an extension beyond May 29, which the FIA denied?

    Ah man, we were doing so well avoiding the dreaded G word until recently.

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:22

    Moveable boxes? ;)

    haha!

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:23

    sounds good to me. :) not that i see much of the site itself anymore. :D

    haha, same.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 13:23

    nothing particularly exciting, unless anyone has ideas for new features?

    Finn-tracker?

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:23

    sounds good to me. :) not that i see much of the site itself anymore. :D

    you will ;)

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:23

    Ah man, we were doing so well avoiding the dreaded G word until recently.

    G word!? now i'm confused

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:23

    nothing particularly exciting, unless anyone has ideas for new features?

    Hamiltonometer?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:24

    Saw that yesterday, however....Max said they'd still accept entry's for the current teams after that if they were going to have a paddy about the rules...(i've paraphrased ;) ) so i'm a bit confused

    From my understanding, the 10 teams have a reserved spot for 2010 if they enter by Friday. However, if they do NOT enter by then, they lose that reserved spot, so it'll become first-come-first-served for the remaining spots.

    Basically, it's a question of whether or not Max really has more than 3 new entries. If he has, FOTA is in trouble (unless Toyota are really dropping out, leaving 4 vacancies). If not, Max will look rather silly...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:25

    G word!? now i'm confused

    Well, not ALL G stories are bad. This one has proper sources and quotes, so I don't think there's any issue with referencing this story.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:25

    you will ;)

    oooh... it's THAT good, eh? we shall see. :P

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 13:25

    Well, not ALL G stories are bad. This one has proper sources and quotes, so I don't think there's any issue with referencing this story.

    I do.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:25

    Basically, it's a question of whether or not Max really has more than 3 new entries. If he has, FOTA is in trouble (unless Toyota are really dropping out, leaving 4 vacancies). If not, Max will look rather silly...

    If he didn't let one of the current teams back in because they didn't apply in time i would die of shock-ed-ness

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 13:25

    nothing particularly exciting, unless anyone has ideas for new features?

    Could you have the option of using the LCLT like the doohicky and be able to display comments from all threads, not just the one open?

    Although i suspect you will look at this and just go WHY?

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:25

    Well, not ALL G stories are bad. This one has proper sources and quotes, so I don't think there's any issue with referencing this story.

    oooooh, that G word

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 13:26

    you will ;)

    It's really key that I reckon...

    I didn't look at the LCLT thing yesterday... But I did post 5 or 6 comments from the iPhone and didn't know there were all sorts of exciting things going on.

    I normally try and be really well behaved and visit the main page. But sometimes it is very tricky when I'm out and about.

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:27

    Well, not ALL G stories are bad. This one has proper sources and quotes, so I don't think there's any issue with referencing this story.

    I do.

    gmm are an awful company. yes some of their stories might be fine (if you shoot enough bullets eventually you'll hit something/one). however, we still discourage linking as it only increases the likelihood of more people paying them for such dire services.

    be strong people ;)

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:28

    Although i suspect you will look at this and just go WHY?

    correct. ummm, why?

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 13:28

    Mr C... Very minor thing about the LCLT I wasn't sure if it had been mentioned but is it on purpose that you can't hide the mail and site boxes any more? When watching video it can still be a bit tight on vertical space.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 13:28

    not that i see much of the site itself anymore. :D

    i still have spc as my home page so i get to see new posts and such, plus i catch up with discussions via ye olde comments :)

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:29

    Mr C... Very minor thing about the LCLT I wasn't sure if it had been mentioned but is it on purpose that you can't hide the mail and site boxes any more? When watching video it can still be a bit tight on vertical space.

    nope. i forgot. steven's raised a bug and it's being fixed.

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:29

    It's really key that I reckon...

    as you can imagine... we have plans ;)

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 13:29

    nope. i forgot. steven's raised a bug and it's being fixed.

    Cool :) I read that comment as me being able to blame Steven. Excellent :)

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 13:30

    as you can imagine... we have plans ;)

    I can :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:31

    gmm are an awful company. yes some of their stories might be fine (if you shoot enough bullets eventually you'll hit something/one). however, we still discourage linking as it only increases the likelihood of more people paying them for such dire services.

    That's why I wanted to clarify what the real story was. Don't worry - I left a comment there telling them off for doing it as their story was completely wrong!

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 13:32

    I think a good use of the factbox would be to have a set of live ometers during the race.

    Oooh... Trulli causing a train. I better move the Trulliomer up a bit.

    Ooooh Lewis has spun... Better move the Lewisometer down to Rock Bottom.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 13:33

    I think a good use of the factbox would be to have a set of live ometers during the race.

    Oooh... Trulli causing a train. I better move the Trulliomer up a bit.

    Ooooh Lewis has spun... Better move the Lewisometer down to Rock Bottom.

    Heikki has won the race, better put the Amyometer to maximum

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 13:33

    Heikki has won the race, better put the Amyometer to maximum

    :)

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 13:33

    Heikki has won the race, better put the Amyometer to maximum

    They would have to go to 11

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:33

    That's why I wanted to clarify what the real story was. Don't worry - I left a comment there telling them off for doing it as their story was completely wrong!

    good man!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:34

    good man!

    Cheers. Will link to it later :)

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:34

    I think a good use of the factbox would be to have a set of live ometers during the race.

    sound like a plan. at first it might be read-only. hopefully there could be voting and other interactive things shortly afterwards.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 13:36

    correct. ummm, why?

    :D When the new daily thread starts, or people move into a live thread its difficult to see what has happened...

    I guess im better off using the doohicky...

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 13:37

    Real Jake has jointed twitter.

    www.twitter.com/jakehumphreyf1

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:38

    Real Jake has jointed twitter.

    www.twitter.com/jakehumphreyf1

    That's kinda funny to do that after his fake counterpart had!

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 13:39

    Do you remember the guy Timo Glock replaced in his F1 debut?

    He wants to come back… {Comment #508}

    Giorgio Pantano has about as much chance of an F1 return as Jacques Villnueve. I still cringe at his performance in the Jordan...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:40

    You know its a bad day when you spell your own name wrong

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:40

    That's kinda funny to do that after his fake counterpart had!

    i shall introduce them lol

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 13:41

    That's kinda funny to do that after his fake counterpart had!

    looks like real Jake got in first on May 18 and promptly stopped using it :D he says "I couldn't get jake humphrey so I went for www.twitter.com/jakehumphreyf1 and I will start regularly using that soon too (probably in Turkey) so start following everyone!!"

  • Alianora La Canta26/05/2009 at 13:46

    So Branson is gonna sponsor Red Bull AND Force India as well as Brawn? {Comment #589}

    Sounds like Richard knows all the right people to get free meals in one of the most expensive places to eat there is...

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 13:47

    Gavin, why did you not tell us that Aqua's new single has been released in Denmark today? ;)

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:48

    Gavin, why did you not tell us that Aqua's new single has been released in Denmark today? ;)

    what??

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 13:48

    Gavin, why did you not tell us that Aqua's new single has been released in Denmark today? ;)

    This is big news.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:49

    Gavin, why did you not tell us that Aqua's new single has been released in Denmark today? ;)

    It has? Lordy!

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 13:49

    This is big news.

    I knew SPC would be excited.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8loLIYc2Q

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:50

    RealJakeHumph is following Jamesallenonf1

    hehehe

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 13:51

    I knew SPC would be excited.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8loLIYc2Q

    i almost like this.

    look at the words, they're very funny

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 13:51

    I knew SPC would be excited.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8loLIYc2Q

    Just as cringeworthy as I was expecting, brilliant :P

    Although the lyrics are very funny

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:56

    Loving FakeFlav's latest tweet. :D Won't post it here, look at it over there. ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:57

    Just as cringeworthy as I was expecting, brilliant :P

    Although the lyrics are very funny

    Oh dear oh dear this is really bad :(

    Even my wife is embarassed by Danish Music!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:57

    Just as cringeworthy as I was expecting, brilliant :P

    How can they sound the same as 15 years ago?!

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 13:58

    How can they sound the same as 15 years ago?!

    Cryogenically frozen

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 13:58

    Oh dear oh dear this is really bad :(

    Even my wife is embarassed by Danish Music!

    I quote, "THAT'S WHAT THE DANES CAN DO!" ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:58

    Just as cringeworthy as I was expecting, brilliant :P

    How can they sound the same as 15 years ago?!

    Because none of them changed at all. The baldy (René Dif) advertises crisps and appears in Danish Movies now :(

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 13:58

    That said, you gotta love all the 80s references they shoved in there. :D

    Cryogenically frozen

    Hahaha!

  • me26/05/2009 at 13:58

    Oh dear oh dear this is really bad :(

    Even my wife is embarassed by Danish Music!

    i have no audio. i'll listen later though.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 13:59

    Because none of them changed at all. The baldy (René Dif) advertises crisps and appears in Danish Movies now :(

    I am surprised they manage to be in the same place at the same time considering Girl Aqua was dating him once but is now married to Spikey Haired Aqua. Why do I know this?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:59

    Just as cringeworthy as I was expecting, brilliant :P

    Can I get my 4 minutes back?

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 13:59

    Hahaha!

    Well it worked for Fry in his travels from the year 2000 to the year 3000 in Futurama so I firmly believe thats the case, as Futurama is no doubt a worthy source of trust for such issues.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 13:59

    I am surprised they manage to be in the same place at the same time considering Girl Aqua was dating him once but is now married to Spikey Haired Aqua. Why do I know this?

    Girl Aqua is referred to here as "Aqua-Lene"...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:00

    Just as cringeworthy as I was expecting, brilliant :P

    it's so bad, it's good! :D

    I am surprised they manage to be in the same place at the same time considering Girl Aqua was dating him once but is now married to Spikey Haired Aqua. Why do I know this?

    Yes, why DO you know this? :P

  • me26/05/2009 at 14:00

    I am surprised they manage to be in the same place at the same time considering Girl Aqua was dating him once but is now married to Spikey Haired Aqua. Why do I know this?

    worked for no doubt.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:00

    Girl Aqua is referred to here as "Aqua-Lene"...

    are there lots of people called Lene? or is it for no reason like how I got called Amy Girl at my old work, even though I was the only Amy there?

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 14:00

    There's a #katesdirtysister!

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:01

    worked for no doubt.

    Gavin Rossdale joined No Doubt? ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 14:01

    are there lots of people called Lene? or is it for no reason like how I got called Amy Girl at my old work, even though I was the only Amy there?

    Lene is quite a popular name over here...

  • lou26/05/2009 at 14:01

    Well it worked for Fry in his travels from the year 2000 to the year 3000 in Futurama so I firmly believe thats the case, as Futurama is no doubt a worthy source of trust for such issues.

    hahaha when i first started reading this i thought you were referring to Nick Fry! ahaha :D

  • me26/05/2009 at 14:01

    worked for no doubt.

    Gavin Rossdale joined No Doubt? ;)

    before him... i'm guessing.

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:01

    Yes, why DO you know this? :P

    I'm the girl to have in your team for pop culture questions in pub quizzes :)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 14:01

    ....Seb Buemi's mum is on twitter?

    I just spat my drink everywhere when I saw the you are being followed email appear on Gmail notifier...

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 14:02

    Sorry, Fake seb buemi's mum of course ;)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 14:02

    hahaha when i first started reading this i thought you were referring to Nick Fry! ahaha :D

    Can I throw him in one of the chambers? :P

    Although, in all fairness to the chap, he hasn't been so bad this year!

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:04

    I don't know what he's saying, but I don't care.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/heikki-avi

    I think I need therapy.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:05

    I think I need therapy.

    Borgs don't do therapy. :P

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 14:05

    I don't know what he's saying, but I don't care.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/heikki-avi

    I think I need therapy.

    I think he says

    "Well if Amy was here this weekend I think I could have won, I know it. it is a shame for sure, I need a haircut and my laundry is done"

    My finnish a bit off though...

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:06

    My finnish a bit off though...

    Points for humor, but Kathi can beat you, I'm sure. :P

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:06

    My finnish a bit off though...

    i think that might just be spot on.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:07

    i think that might just be spot on.

    not in a million years. :P

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:07

    not in a million years. :P

    maybe not the part about the haircut, the shorter it gets the bigger his forehead appears.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:09

    maybe not the part about the haircut, the shorter it gets the bigger his forehead appears.

    actually that's the part that has the best shot at being true. :D

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 14:10

    Ah don't listen to Journeyer, he's lost it Amy. Heikki blatently mentions you.

    :P

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:11

    Ah don't listen to Journeyer, he's lost it Amy. Heikki [blatantly] mentions you.

    I'm the sane one here! :P

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:11

    Ah don't listen to Journeyer, he's lost it Amy. Heikki blatently mentions you.

    Well, I haven't seen any photos of Catherine at any races this year....

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:14

    Well, I haven't seen any photos of Catherine at any races this year....

    I saw her in one of the Spanish GP pictures, if memory serves me right...

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 14:20

    Well, I haven't seen any photos of Catherine at any races this year....

    If I ask who Catherine is will I get stuff thrown at me?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:21

    If I ask who Catherine is will I get stuff thrown at me?

    Catherine is Heikki's wife...

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:21

    If I ask who Catherine is will I get stuff thrown at me?

    No, it's apparently not normal to know who drivers girlfriends are unless they are like THAT woman and try get on TV :D

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 14:22

    No, it's apparently not normal to know who drivers girlfriends are unless they are like THAT woman and try get on TV :D

    Once they are married they seem to get hidden away..

    Thanks Journeyer

  • Amy26/05/2009 at 14:41

    righteo bedtime for me! night spcland :)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:41

    Once they are married they seem to get hidden away..

    It won't happen with THAT woman, I assure you. ;)

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:42

    righteo bedtime for me! night spcland :)

    night Borg. :P

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 14:42

    righteo bedtime for me! night spcland :)

    niiight!!

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 14:43

    righteo bedtime for me! night spcland :)

    see ya amy.

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 14:51

    Afternoon peeps.

    Whats going down in groovetown?

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:54

    Whats going down in groovetown?

    Aqua. That's what's going down. :D

    I knew SPC would be excited.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8loLIYc2Q

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 14:55

    Aqua. That's what's going down. :D

    No..no! Oh god no!

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:56

    No..no! Oh god no!

    Yes, yes, yes! :D

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 14:56

    Yes, yes, yes! :D

    Hides from the evil...

    *puts on new Madness album very very loud..*

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 14:56

    *puts on new Madness album very very loud..*

    You cannot hide from the eeeevil! :D

  • Chris26/05/2009 at 14:57

    I knew SPC would be excited.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8loLIYc2Q

    *shudders*

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 14:58

    You cannot hide from the eeeevil! :D

    *fingers in ears*

    LA LA LA LA LA L A I CAN'T HEAR IT LA LA LA LA LA

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 15:00

    LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR IT LA LA LA LA LA

    Cmon, you know you want to... :P

  • Chris26/05/2009 at 15:00

    To change the subject, anyone else keep getting fakesidepodcast and normal sidepodcast confused on twitter?

  • lou26/05/2009 at 15:01

    To change the subject, anyone else keep getting fakesidepodcast and normal sidepodcast confused on twitter?

    yep, it can lead to some funny moments :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 15:01

    To change the subject, anyone else keep getting fakesidepodcast and normal sidepodcast confused on twitter?

    who maintains fakesidepodcast, BTW?

    Back to the 80s... :D

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 15:02

    I am not here.

    Carry on

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 15:03

    To change the subject, anyone else keep getting fakesidepodcast and normal sidepodcast confused on twitter?

    I did last night which was confusing, yup

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 15:03

    I am not here.

    Carry on.

    Why comment if you're not here, then? :P

  • Chris26/05/2009 at 15:03

    who maintains fakesidepodcast, BTW?

    No idea. It's almost definitely a regular, because they talked to fakejakeh last night about his language after I mentioned it, but it's not me!

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 15:04

    Have been listening to 2007 Britcar 24hour commentary, so i've taking a break from it and watching the Top Gear episode it's in :) yeyyy

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 15:06

    I'm curious as to how Mansell was adored while he was in F1 and is scorned upon now - how the heck will Lewis cope when his career ends?

    Mansell had a group of fans who thought he was great but there were a lot of people who thought he was a whingeing, maoning PITA. I started out as a fan but a combination of the above and the drama queen an inability to say I and not we bugged me to the point where I hated him being on screen.

  • me26/05/2009 at 15:07

    To change the subject, anyone else keep getting fakesidepodcast and normal sidepodcast confused on twitter?

    you could just unsubscribe?

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 15:07

    Mansell had a group of fans who thought he was great but there were a lot of people who thought he was a whingeing, maoning PITA. I started out as a fan but a combination of the above and the drama queen an inability to say I and not we bugged me to the point where I hated him being on screen.

    And also the most boring man on earth.

    That brummie accent kills any excitement he could have had. :D

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 15:08

    Mansell had a group of fans who thought he was great but there were a lot of people who thought he was a whingeing, maoning PITA. I started out as a fan but a combination of the above and the drama queen an inability to say I and not we bugged me to the point where I hated him being on screen.

    PITA?

    you could just unsubscribe?

    I think they like fakey, they just get him confused, that's all. :)

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 15:08

    PITA?

    Pain in the a***

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 15:09

    Pain in the a***

    Ohhh.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 15:12

    FR Update: Vettel's value only dropped this morning. Now there's a delayed reaction - and I hate it. I bought back Vettel already, thinking his price had bottomed out. I didn't factor in the bank holiday... *sighs* Oh well.

    I swapped some drivers in the race and made $2 million by last night

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 15:13

    I swapped some drivers in the race and made $2 million by last night

    That's some big bucks. :D Must learn to master that art. :)

  • lou26/05/2009 at 15:13

    you could just unsubscribe?

    the confusion is sometimes half the fun! :D

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 15:16

    That's some big bucks. :D Must learn to master that art. :)

    Easy. You pick drivers who do really badly and dump them before everyone else does and buy drivers who are doing better than expected.

    I still haven't got up to $50 million yet so I think I probably just got lucky this time.

  • Journeyer26/05/2009 at 15:21

    Easy. You pick drivers who do really badly and dump them before everyone else does and buy drivers who are doing better than expected.

    But all my drivers do well... Except Vettel, which was why I dumped him. But I picked him back up too early. Most people only made their updates on Monday night. :(

  • RG26/05/2009 at 15:30

    Hello...you...lot. Who are ya all again?

    Have I missed out today/yesterday/sunday?

  • lou26/05/2009 at 15:31

    Have I missed out today/yesterday/sunday?

    we have a new lclt! :)

  • RG26/05/2009 at 15:31

    we have a new lclt!

    WHAT? WOOOOOOOOOO.

    I assume the links in the daily post? Cos I haven't read that yet.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 15:32

    Hello...you...lot. Who are ya all again?

    :) did you have a nice time at your families?

  • lou26/05/2009 at 15:32

    I assume the links in the daily post? Cos I haven't read that yet.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/livecommenting/

  • RG26/05/2009 at 15:33

    :) did you have a nice time at your families?

    It was great, weather was lovely. Had a nice bank holiday.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/livecommenting/

    I love Mr C

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 15:44

    I find myself very conflicted because at the end of Monaco I was happy that Jenson won it, but disappointed that it was so easy for them.

    You have to look at it from the 'He bloody well deserves it' perspective ;)

    It was the dullest Monaco ever though

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 15:46

    A good rule of thumb is to approach the corner from the outside line, turning in and hitting the apex mid corner and aiming for the outside of the corner on the exit. Takes some practice and you end up feeling your way through...

    The other thing you should try is taking a slightly later apex until you build up speed. If you apex later than ideal you will be a bit slower but if you apex early you will go off on the exit so it is better to be later then gradually apex eralier as you build speed.

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F126/05/2009 at 15:47

    Please, why are people wasting their breathe comparing the current crop of drivers to the greats of F1? comparing Button to the greats is absolutey laughable and so far, Hamilton career to date is equal to JV's carreer in his third season. As much as people here love to say that JV was/is rubvlish, I an still waiting for Hamilton to win the Indy 500, which is like doing to decent Grand Prix back to back with half again the field....

    No, the Greats = the men like Fangio, Stewart, Graham Hill, and Lauda will still have to wait for the dust to settle before history finally decides to allow Prost, Senna, Schumacher to entered their numbers and debate about Alsono before these guys get a chance...

    Kamikazing your way to a championship should DQ a driver from being a "great".... That takes out Senna, Prost and Schumacher.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 15:51

    I an still waiting for Hamilton to win the Indy 500, which is like doing to decent Grand Prix back to back with half again the field....

    I was wondering this the other night, which would be a greater challenge physicaly, Monaco GP or the 500?

    I was thinking Monaco, although it doesnt have the G-forces of Indy, The stop start and wheel movement at Monaco is surely far greater?

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 15:54

    Raikkonen's form delights Ferrari boss

    Last sentence is a big deal:

    "On a track where talent is important Kimi has shown what he is able to do."

    Ferrari just threw another hand-crafted spanner into the works!

    Or put another way the car is no good. If the driver can look good on a track where the driver is more important than the car then the reason he looks bad elsewhere is the car.

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 15:54

    Right - off out again. Local cinema is doing a racing films special this week.

    They've got some great stuff for one showing only. Tonight a new print of Grand Prix. :D

    Tomorrow, Le Mans... :D

    TTFN

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:00

    I was wondering this the other night, which would be a greater challenge physicaly, Monaco GP or the 500?

    Monaco is a lot harder physically. Indy has no real speed difference so there is no braking or acceleratin loads on the driver. Indy is like a billiard table compared to Monaco so the driver doesn't get shaken to bits and of course Indy has constant yellow flags where the driver can sleep fro 10 laps.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 16:00

    Right - off out again. Local cinema is doing a racing films special this week.

    see ya

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:08

    Kamikazing your way to a championship should DQ a driver from being a "great".... That takes out Senna, Prost and Schumacher.

    You are even harsher than me. I think itis fair to try to compare drivers from other eras. Fans have always done that and always will. Generally people's views on the ability/[erformance of drivers is based on very little. There are a load of people who think Hamilton got the McLaren drive in the first place due to luck and wa lucky to get a championship last year and he is the biggest cheat in the history of the sport because he lied to the stewards in Australia. Their whole opinion of him is based on him going straight into a top team and a couple of clashes with th stewards. Some of them will never change that opinion regradless what he does.

    Samewith JV. Some people can't see past the BAR thing and th fact that in his last season his performance was not that good. His previous record andth family history that encouraged him to set up his own team are ignored. People forget how Schumacher reacted to him prior to Jerez 97. Hakkinen may be rated as Schumacher's biggest rival but Schumcher clearly rated JV as a real threat for a couple of seasons and I don't rememeber ever hearing of Schumacher racing anyone other than JV on the public roads.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:08

    Right - off out again. Local cinema is doing a racing films special this week.

    They've got some great stuff for one showing only. Tonight a new print of Grand Prix. :D

    Tomorrow, Le Mans... :D

    TTFN

    You need to publixise stuff like that for anyone in the area. Why has that not been all over the net?

  • Flibster26/05/2009 at 16:11

    You need to publixise stuff like that for anyone in the area. Why has that not been all over the net?

    posting from phone so no capitals or punctuation

    found out about it when i walked past the cinema this afternoon

    had just enough time to go home and have a shower and get changed into less scummy clothes

    had no idea it was doing one

    missed the scifi one lst week was showwing alien and aliens

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:13

    found out about it when i walked past the cinema this afternoon

    had just enough time to go home and have a shower and get changed into less scummy clothes

    You would think that any cinema doing something like that would have been all over the net.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:27

    Just found fakeDanica.

  • me26/05/2009 at 16:39

    love the aqua tune btw :)

  • me26/05/2009 at 16:41

    love the aqua tune btw :)

    although i am lost by the reference to soap?

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 16:43

    although i am lost by the reference to soap?

    I was thinking soap operas like Dallas, Dynasty, etc. Thats all I can assume.

    probably something else though

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:43

    Is the twipocalypse real? Any techy people?

    http://www.twitpocalypse.com/

  • me26/05/2009 at 16:43

    I was thinking soap operas like Dallas, Dynasty, etc. Thats all I can assume.

    ahh. was thinking... we gave up soap in the 80's and no-one told me?

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 16:45

    ahh. was thinking... we gave up soap in the 80's and no-one told me?

    :D

  • me26/05/2009 at 16:46

    Is the twipocalypse real? Any techy people?

    it doesn't say twitter will collapse, just "some 3rd party clients". so it depends how well written apps like tweetdeck are i guess.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 16:47

    http://www.twitpocalypse.com/

    Pretty crazy how many tweets are flying about though!

  • me26/05/2009 at 16:48

    Pretty crazy how many tweets are flying about though!

    167 tweets per second. mental.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 16:48

    167 tweets per second. mental.

    - the average tweets per second and the Twitpocalypse date are a rough approximation, please do not schedule any vacation around that date

    :D

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:49

    it doesn't say twitter will collapse, just "some 3rd party clients". so it depends how well written apps like tweetdeck are i guess.

    Is the identifier number they talk about real or is the whole ting just a scam?

  • RG26/05/2009 at 16:49

    - the average tweets per second and the Twitpocalypse date are a rough approximation, please do not schedule any vacation around that date

    It had to be a Wednesday. Typical.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:49

    Pretty crazy how many tweets are flying about though!

    I wonder if there will be some prize for the 2 billionth tweet.

  • RCC26/05/2009 at 16:51

    I've just left some tremanying for my sins

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:53

    I've just left some tremanying for my sins

    Oh good. I think people should leave more tremayning voicemails. We have just had a poll for trmayning on a show. If there were more tremayning voicemails there could be another poll.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 16:55

    For anyone who has missed it you have 3 hours left to vote in the first two match ups in the circuit cup. You can vote for Monza vs Shanghai and for Interlagos vs Valencia.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/05/25/circuit-character-cup-round-1-monza-shanghai-interlagos-valencia/

  • RCC26/05/2009 at 16:55

    Oh good. I think people should leave more tremayning voicemails. We have just had a poll for trmayning on a show. If there were more tremayning voicemails there could be another poll.

    feel much better now, should include it in fitness regime lol

  • me26/05/2009 at 17:02

    Is the identifier number they talk about real or is the whole ting just a scam?

    yeah, it's real.

    at a guess, i'd say the people who made the site also make a twitter client and realised they'd screwed up. so they're using this to get everyone to upgrade to the latest version or something.

    either that, or because they've accounted for it, they're highlighting it to everyone else.

  • Joe26/05/2009 at 17:09

    I just got Grand Prix 2 working after downloading it earlier. It's based on the 1994 season. It has pre-qualifying! : O

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:11

    I just got Grand Prix 2 working after downloading it earlier. It's based on the 1994 season. It has pre-qualifying! : O

    I used to love that game..

  • Joe26/05/2009 at 17:13

    Brundle in the McLaren ftw. And Laurousse! Or something beginning with L anyway.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:14

    Any sign of Bertraund Gachet?

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 17:14

    I just got Grand Prix 2 working after downloading it earlier. It's based on the 1994 season. It has pre-qualifying! : O

    I still have a copy of that somewhere. I used to be really good on that game

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 17:15

    Any sign of Bertraund Gachet?

    He was gone before that. It was 91 that he had his little incident and some German kid got his drive.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:16

    He was gone before that. It was 91 that he had his little incident and some German kid got his drive.

    Wasnt he in the Pacific* after that?

    *Possibly the best f1 team ever

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 17:20

    Wasnt he in the Pacific* after that?

    Just checked. He did 92 fo Larrousse and 94 & 95 for Pacific. DNQed a lot an retired when he didn't DNQ. 2 finishes in 2 seasons

  • RG26/05/2009 at 17:21

    I just got Grand Prix 2 working after downloading it earlier. It's based on the 1994 season. It has pre-qualifying! : O

    Think my dad has it somewhere as well. Might as well check it out again.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 17:21

    Brawn GP's eNews email just revealed a new Q&A thing for the website...

    Every month, the Brawn GP team will answer 10 questions received through the team's website from registered fans. Your questions can be addressed directly to our drivers Jenson and Rubens or to a specific member of the team or just to the team in general.

    The new feature goes live today with the first answers to be online on Monday 15 June.

    also..... a RUBENS BARRICHELLO SIGNED HELMET COMPETITION.

    Awesome!!!

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 17:23

    also..... a RUBENS BARRICHELLO SIGNED HELMET COMPETITION.

    Poor Rubens. First they make him number 2 then they give away his helmet.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:24

    Hmmm...Would'nt mind asking why Andrew Shovlin always look so terrified...

  • lou26/05/2009 at 17:25

    Hmmm...Would'nt mind asking why Andrew Shovlin always look so terrified...

    he is probably thinking about how ill prepared he is for the triathlon Jenson has got him to be in. lol

  • lou26/05/2009 at 17:26

    also..... a RUBENS BARRICHELLO SIGNED HELMET COMPETITION.

    haha awesome :)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 17:27

    Although I can't find it yet, boo. I'm sure it'll be up soon :)

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:28

    Just checked. He did 92 fo Larrousse and 94 & 95 for Pacific. DNQed a lot an retired when he didn't DNQ. 2 finishes in 2 seasons

    They might have failed to realise their potential, but they did paint some cool cars..http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/greatest-livery-ever-jpg

  • lou26/05/2009 at 17:29

    Although I can't find it yet, boo. I'm sure it'll be up soon :)

    when you log in.... look at the main menu options. submit a question is one of them ;)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 17:30

    when you log in.... look at the main menu options. submit a question is one of them ;)

    Oooh, good spot! :)

  • RG26/05/2009 at 17:31

    They might have failed to realise their potential, but they did paint some cool cars..http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/greatest-livery-ever-jpg

    Too much white for my liking. A black/yellow background would be better.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 17:32

    Ahh, the competition starts thursday. should proof read more and stop staring at the pic of the helmet.

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 17:32

    Evening all, a quick catch up on comments before I disappear again to do homework :-)

    Why the sad face? It's just something I do to amuse myself, and hope to earn a couple of hundred Ks in the process. :)

    Ah it's just too much effort. What would be really funny if the FR guy made a credit crunch on driver trading...

    Agreed - I've set myself Button, Vettel and Glock (can't afford any more) and I'm just leaving it like that for a while. I'll still keep an eye on scores and might tinker with the 3rd position if Glock keeps doing badly, otherwise that's it..

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:32

    Too much white for my liking. A black/yellow background would be better.

    It was shimmering silver!!!

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 17:33

    For me, the reading is the easy bit. I dislike having to go back and listen to myself as I edit, but it's all good fun.

    I have decided I hate the sound of my own voice :( I only listen back on the panels becuase the others make me laugh so much!

    I still haven't listened to the one I was on. My voice is better than expected but I still don't like hearing it.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 17:33

    It was shimmering silver!!!

    Shimmering Silver. Pah. Close enough to white.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 17:34

    Agreed - I've set myself Button, Vettel and Glock (can't afford any more) and I'm just leaving it like that for a while. I'll still keep an eye on scores and might tinker with the 3rd position if Glock keeps doing badly, otherwise that's it..

    Suppose I better check mine.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:35

    Shimmering Silver. Pah. Close enough to white.

    Years ahead of Mclarens current attempt!

  • RG26/05/2009 at 17:36

    Years ahead of Mclarens current attempt!

    The day Spyker return, I will be happy. Until then. I can only moan about the liveries.

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 17:36

    Ah it's just too much effort. What would be really funny if the FR guy made a credit crunch on driver trading...

    Agreed - I've set myself Button, Vettel and Glock (can't afford any more) and I'm just leaving it like that for a while. I'll still keep an eye on scores and might tinker with the 3rd position if Glock keeps doing badly, otherwise that's it..

    Maybe we can ask Danny to reset everyone's budget to 40 Million again.

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 17:38

    So you're a geek, then? :D

    I was at school, then I went to Uni where no one was making sure I actually went to class and it all went pear shaped :D

    me too!

  • RG26/05/2009 at 17:38

    Suppose I better check mine.

    703 points!!

    Oh, there were people with 800 and 900, and 1000, and 1100.

    Creeping right up on Mr C though.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 17:38

    Maybe we can ask Danny to reset everyone's budget to 40 Million again.

    You can't change the rules mid-season. We constantly complain about Max doing that. You deserve your position.

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 17:40

    Maybe we can ask Danny to reset everyone's budget to 40 Million again.

    No.. I just don't have time to go into the details. I just want to pick my drivers each week. Bear in mind I have no idea what last year was like, so...

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 17:41

    You can't change the rules mid-season. We constantly complain about Max doing that. You deserve your position.

    It would be like given everyone their own double diffuser. I'd still have my points advantage

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 17:41

    You can't change the rules mid-season. We constantly complain about Max doing that. You deserve your position.

    Yep. You saw things that other people didn't - that's how F1 is, isn't it?

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:42

    The day Spyker return, I will be happy. Until then. I can only moan about the liveries.

    Here it is in full glory at Monaco http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/pacific-jpg-2

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 17:44

    sidepodspace update

    NASA TV is covering the launch of the Soyuz from Baikonur Cosmodrome tomorrow at 5:45am EDT 10:45 UK. The Soyuz is headed for the ISS and its arrival will mark the start of permanent 6 person crewoperation. This wil also be the first time that al 5 major partners USA/Russia/EU/Japan/Canada will have astronauts on board at the same time.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 17:45

    Here it is in full glory at Monaco http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/pacific-jpg-2

    Most of the time on TV it looked grey. Not that it got much time on TV

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 17:47

    Most of the time on TV it looked grey. Not that it got much time on TV

    :D

    I have a miniature replica somewhere...

  • me26/05/2009 at 17:50

    No.. I just don't have time to go into the details. I just want to pick my drivers each week. Bear in mind I have no idea what last year was like, so...

    exactly as you've described.

  • me26/05/2009 at 17:51

    It would be like given everyone their own double diffuser. I'd still have my points advantage

    it wouldn't be fair on any of the other leagues though?

    plus we want you to maintain your advantage :)

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 17:52

    i just heard "many white goats" when someone said "men in white coats"

    ooops

  • me26/05/2009 at 17:54

    Maybe we can ask Danny to reset everyone's budget to 40 Million again.

    it's not the budget that's the issue for me. it's that FR has gone from a low maintenance game to a very high maintenance game.

    that said, the new rules do appear to be generating a lot more discussion and debate this year so it's all good. even if i'm just a spectator to the main event.

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 17:58

    it's not the budget that's the issue for me. it's that FR has gone from a low maintenance game to a very high maintenance game.

    I didn't play last year so I can't compare :(

    plus we want you to maintain your advantage :)

    I only have 1.6 Million more than autosport's richest. I wouldn't loose much.

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 18:06

    thankyou space correspondent :) must remember tomorrow...oh damn. another meeting.

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 18:06

    Real Jake has jointed twitter.

    www.twitter.com/jakehumphreyf1

    Excellent :-)

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 18:10

    it's not the budget that's the issue for me. it's that FR has gone from a low maintenance game to a very high maintenance game.

    it was high enough for me - just thinking about bothering to do it was too much effort. But I agree with me that it's great to watch you guys discuss all the tweeks, and find the loopholes, but I'd rather play one of those stock market prediction games if I have to do a lot. money = money :)

  • me26/05/2009 at 18:14

    I only have 1.6 Million more than autosport's richest. I wouldn't loose much.

    am confused why you want to loose anything?

    you're leading the whole competition, doing a fantastic job of managing your team, flying the flag for sidepodcast and we're all immensely proud of you to boot.

    why the need for change?

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 18:19

    why the need for change?

    Because everybody seems unhappy :(

    But if you're all happy being unhappy then fine. I'll try to find my inner-Schumacher. :)

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 18:19

    But if you're all happy being unhappy then fine. I'll try to find my inner-Schumacher. :)

    you go girl!

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 18:20

    But if you're all happy being unhappy then fine. I'll try to find my inner-Schumacher. :)

    take the championship Kathi!

  • Alex Andronov26/05/2009 at 18:20

    But if you're all happy being unhappy then fine. I'll try to find my inner-Schumacher. :)

    That's the spirit :)

    You're the Brawn of the season. You didn't compete last year, and this year you've worked out something that nobody else did. Tis awesome :)

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 18:21

    You're the Brawn of the season. You didn't compete last year, and this year you've worked out something that nobody else did. Tis awesome :)

    :)

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 18:21

    But if you're all happy being unhappy then fine. I'll try to find my inner-Schumacher. :)

    A rule change was made and you made the most of it. There are plenty of people happy with it as it is now.

    I'm sure if I had more time to play it I'd enjoy it too.

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 18:22

    Someone wants to pay me to put a link on my blog.

  • me26/05/2009 at 18:23

    Because everybody seems unhappy :(

    i'm not unhappy that you're leading! i spent the whole of last year loosing, that's what i do best.

    i was unhappy that more effort was being demanded of me, but that's just because i'm massively lazy at heart :)

    But if you're all happy being unhappy then fine. I'll try to find my inner-Schumacher. :)

    i'm no longer unhappy cause i just stopped playing and now i watch.

    watching other people plan their strategies is just as much fun as trying myself, and ultimately a damn sight less hassle too.

    please keep up the good work mini-schumi, and remember we expect a victory speech come the end of the season ;)

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 18:23

    Someone wants to pay me to put a link on my blog.

    oh wow!! thats awesome...potentially..

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 18:24

    i was unhappy that more effort was being demanded of me, but that's just because i'm massively lazy at heart :)

    This is the root of my complaint too :-)

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 18:25

    oh wow!! thats awesome...potentially..

    Maybe.. I was reluctant to put Google Ads on there.. Will have a think.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 18:25

    But if you're all happy being unhappy then fine. I'll try to find my inner-Schumacher. :)

    I like this one. Can we keep her?

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 18:26

    Maybe.. I was reluctant to put Google Ads there.. Will have a think.

    depends what/how much/how big tbbh

  • Scott in Italy26/05/2009 at 18:28

    Maybe.. I was reluctant to put Google Ads there.. Will have a think.

    Perhaps if you decide to do it, just take it initially for a 2 month spin. See how you like it. You're choice though :)

  • me26/05/2009 at 18:28

    I like this one. Can we keep her?

    :P

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 18:29

    please keep up the good work mini-schumi, and remember we expect a victory speech come the end of the season ;)

    New strategy for Turkey sell brawns buy BMWs

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 18:30

    New strategy for Turkey sell brawns buy BMWs

    are you completely insane?

  • me26/05/2009 at 18:30

    New strategy for Turkey sell brawns buy BMWs

    are you completely insane?

    :D

  • RG26/05/2009 at 18:31

    are you completely insane?

    She might be, but she's good at this, might follow the plan.

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 18:34

    are you completely insane?

    I'm NOT giving speeches. *is hiding under the couch with Joe*

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 18:35

    I'm NOT giving speeches. *is hiding under the couch with Joe*

    ok...so no speeches...

  • lou26/05/2009 at 18:36

    I'm NOT giving speeches. *is hiding under the couch with Joe*

    that's alright Kathi, just forget to charge you're laptop when they call you on skype ;)

  • me26/05/2009 at 18:37

    I'm NOT giving speeches. *is hiding under the couch with Joe*

    hmm. how about we hand deliver you the trophy (and then play around on your internet (for about 5 years))?

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 18:38

    that's alright Kathi, just forget to charge you're laptop when they call you on skype ;)

    Don't have a laptop but maybe I manage to break my audio input again until then ;)

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 18:39

    .

    hmm. how about we hand deliver you the trophy (and then play around on your internet (for about 5 years))?

    You can keep the trophy, I won't make a speech and you may play with my Internet as long as you want :)

  • me26/05/2009 at 18:41

    You can keep the trophy, I won't make a speech and you may play with my Internet as long as you want :)

    no trophy? but it's so shiny.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 18:41

    no trophy? but it's so shiny.

    ooh, shiny

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 18:42

    no trophy? but it's so shiny.

    Best said in a heavy Yorkshire accent?

  • RG26/05/2009 at 18:42

    Best said in a heavy Yorkshire accent?

    You could have told me 12 hours ago and I'd have given you it. ;)

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F126/05/2009 at 18:42

    Steven Roy said:

    Kamikazing your way to a championship should DQ a driver from being a “great”…. That takes out Senna, Prost and Schumacher.

    You are even harsher than me.

    Thank you. By "me" which me do you refer to Mr. C or yourself? I am trying to move up to the top spot and I think my options of Stirling Moss being the best ever No. 2 F1 driver should work...

    I think it is fair to try to compare drivers from other eras. Fans have always done that and always will.

    I think I try to do that too, given what is availible to the drivers at the time. Stewart crashing into either Clarke or Hill would have results with the deaths of both of them so gaining Championships the way Senna, Prost and Schumacher did unfairly gives them an additional method of getting championships and the "greatness" based on the number of championships won. In Clarke's day, you had to race to win championships. In Senna's day, you had to make sure you opponent did not pass you, slight difference in words, but on public roads it is called attempted vechilcular manslaughter.

    A "Schumacher crop" on the New Nurburgring circuit results with a a driver going down the grass. A Schmacher Crop at the old circuit means a driver falls off a cliff.

  • Pat W26/05/2009 at 18:45

    Time to vanish to spend a couple of hours on exam revision. Just want I want to do after a day at work. May or may not be back later...

  • Joe26/05/2009 at 18:50

    I'm gonna see if there's any 2009 mods for Grand Prix 2.

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F126/05/2009 at 18:54

    #830 - Kathi said:

    are you completely insane?

    I’m NOT giving speeches. *is hiding under the couch with Joe*

    Start penning your speech already, It comes with the terriority. I should know...

    Christine will hunt you down if you do not win. She threatened me online last year, and I have a bloody ocean between us...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 18:56

    This one's for Lukeh:

    http://funnyvideos.todaysbigthing.com/2009/05/25

  • me26/05/2009 at 18:56

    Christine will hunt you down if you do not win. She threatened me online last year, and I have a bloody ocean between us...

    :D :D

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 18:59

    Christine will hunt you down if you do not win. She threatened me online last year, and I have a bloody ocean between us...

    I'm not scared *starts packing for the next shuttle mission*

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 18:59

    This one's for Lukeh:

    haha, thats amazing

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:00

    This one's for Lukeh:

    Oh my...

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F126/05/2009 at 19:03

    #845 - me said:

    Christine will hunt you down if you do not win. She threatened me online last year, and I have a bloody ocean between us…

    Was the pre show to Brazil or one of races just before me? I think it was back in the days where I wanted the panda to be named Carlos "the Panda" Reutemann....

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 19:06

    out of interest: How do you learn/have you learnt driving?

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F126/05/2009 at 19:07

    #846 - Kathi said:

    Christine will hunt you down if you do not win. She threatened me online last year, and I have a bloody ocean between us…

    I’m not scared *starts packing for the next shuttle mission*

    :D

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:08

    out of interest: How do you learn/have you learnt driving?

    For me I'm having my test in 3 weeks time, have had a years worth of training nearly every week (except for 4 or 5 weeks at random points) in just normal lessons'; driving, techniques, the usual driving about that we have in the UK

    I know in Finland you have the epic, OTT skid pan tests and allsorts that look amazing fun, as shown on top gear :P

  • 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions Jordan F126/05/2009 at 19:09

    #850 - Kathi said:

    out of interest: How do you learn/have you learnt driving?

    May 26th, 2009 at 20:07 #851 - 2008 SPC-land Fantasy Racers Champions

    Well, for starters you do not take a "crash" course....

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 19:13

    For me I'm having my test in 3 weeks time, have had a years worth of training nearly every week (except for 4 or 5 weeks at random points) in just normal lessons'; driving, techniques, the usual driving about that we have in the UK

    I was just wondering because Lou was talking about learning to drive from her parents.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:15

    I was just wondering because Lou was talking about learning to drive from her parents.

    Yeah she's mentioned that. I've no idea if it's only allowed to have lessons from a qualified instructor or from parents but obviously you have to take the test with the right qualified people. Although you're free to have someone over 21 with at least 3 years experience be in the car with you if you want to get practise in.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 19:16

    But if you're all happy being unhappy then fine. I'll try to find my inner-Schumacher. :)

    Make us all miserable :D

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:16

    (I should say, not just parents obviously, also people who have driving experience, etc included when I meant asides from lessons with instructors)

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 19:20

    Yeah she's mentioned that. I've no idea if it's only allowed to have lessons from a qualified instructor or from parents but obviously you have to take the test with the right qualified people. Although you're free to have someone over 21 with at least 3 years experience be in the car with you if you want to get practise in.

    Ah OK, I didn't know that. In Germany you can only take lesson from a qualified instructor who has a car with an extra set of pedals. And you need 12 special lessons. 3 night lessons, 4 on the motorway and 5 on 'country roads' additionally to actually learning to drive. We like to complicate things :)

  • lou26/05/2009 at 19:21

    I was just wondering because Lou was talking about learning to drive from her parents.

    i'm not learning to drive with my parents, not properly, mum just wanted to be the one who taught me how to turn the car on and like move... but that didn't work out too well. anyways, i'll be having actual lessons (where i actually learn things) from an official driving instructor once my exams are done. Then i'll be practising on the roads between lessons with my parents.i'd never dream of having actual lessons with anyone other than an official teacher though, cause there is a difference between knowing how to drive and teaching someone to drive.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 19:21

    Ah OK, I didn't know that. In Germany you can only take lesson from a qualified instructor who has a car with an extra set of pedals. And you need 12 special lessons. 3 night lessons, 4 on the motorway and 5 on 'country roads' additionally to actually learning to drive. We like to complicate things :)

    What about Autobahn lessons?

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:21

    Ah OK, I didn't know that. In Germany you can only take lesson from a qualified instructor who has a car with an extra set of pedals. And you need 12 special lessons. 3 night lessons, 4 on the motorway and 5 on 'country roads' additionally to actually learning to drive. We like to complicate things :)

    See, this is the bizarre thing about lessons. You're not allowed to go on the motorway if you have a provisional license (for when you're taking driving lessons) so when you become a qualified driver and you pass, you have no experience on motorways!

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 19:22

    What about Autobahn lessons?

    that's what I meant with motorway

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 19:22

    What about Autobahn lessons?

    that's what I meant with motorway

    Ah ok.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 19:24

    http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/25/usf1-boss-peter-windsor-confirms-deal-for-cosworth-engines-in-20/1#c19023142

    My Anti-G rant from earlier, as promised!

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 19:26

    See, this is the bizarre thing about lessons. You're not allowed to go on the motorway if you have a provisional license (for when you're taking driving lessons) so when you become a qualified driver and you pass, you have no experience on motorways!

    I think I prefer the German system. It's probably more expensive because you have to pay the instructor for the practice you can do with your parents but safer. And I loved my Autobahn lessons. Usually the instructors have shiny new cars which go much faster then whatever you get to drive afterwards.

  • me26/05/2009 at 19:26

    My Anti-G rant from earlier, as promised!

    goooooo you!

    me likes ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 19:27

    I think I prefer the German system. It's probably more expensive because you have to pay the instructor for the practice you can do with your parents but safer. And I loved my Autobahn lessons. Usually the instructors have shiny new cars which go much faster then whatever you get to drive afterwards.

    The stupid thing is that in Denmark they don't recognise my Kiwi licence and I have to start all over again at a cost of 1200 quid! :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 19:29

    My Anti-G rant from earlier, as promised!

    goooooo you!

    me likes ;)

    Cheers - soz again for posting here but I had to make sure before I ranted!

  • lou26/05/2009 at 19:29

    See, this is the bizarre thing about lessons. You're not allowed to go on the motorway if you have a provisional license (for when you're taking driving lessons) so when you become a qualified driver and you pass, you have no experience on motorways!

    isn't there the pass plus scheme?

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 19:30

    I'm not scared *starts packing for the next shuttle mission*

    There is only one female astronaut on that mission and she is Canadian. Maybe Jordan can teach you to speak Canadian in time.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:30

    isn't there the pass plus scheme?

    There is, but that's even more money :( It'd be worth it in the long term because it can bring down insurance premiums but when you've spent £800+ already...

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 19:31

    There is, but that's even more money :( It'd be worth it in the long term because it can bring down insurance premiums but when you've spent £800+ already...

    It's not that much more, and most councils will give you a grant towards it

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 19:32

    See, this is the bizarre thing about lessons. You're not allowed to go on the motorway if you have a provisional license (for when you're taking driving lessons) so when you become a qualified driver and you pass, you have no experience on motorways!

    Motorways are probably the easiest thing to drive on, if you can master dodgy A-road dual carriageways you'll be fine on a motorway

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:32

    It's not that much more, and most councils will give you a grant towards it

    I've checked and ours don't.

    Tbf they don't even have money for themselves because they're a lousy bunch o... ah it's not worth it.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 19:33

    There is, but that's even more money :( It'd be worth it in the long term because it can bring down insurance premiums but when you've spent £800+ already...

    i'm lucky that my parents are going to pay for everything for me, but yeah i can see how it can all mount up. My friend took the pass plus thing and she found it really useful... having said that she almost wrote off her poor little car today in a crash :(

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 19:34

    There is, but that's even more money :( It'd be worth it in the long term because it can bring down insurance premiums but when you've spent £800+ already...

    If you have points or an accident its probably worth doing as your premiums will skyrocket, but otherwise it is very expensive

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:35

    i'm lucky that my parents are going to pay for everything for me, but yeah i can see how it can all mount up. My friend took the pass plus thing and she found it really useful... having said that she almost wrote off her poor little car today in a crash :(

    Ah, hope she's ok and everything :(

    I'm still considering pass plus to be honest, if I pass in 3 weeks and depending on the next few months money wise we'll see but it's just a balance of whetehr I want to spend more alongside the advantage of lowering insurance in the future.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 19:36

    I'm still considering pass plus to be honest, if I pass in 3 weeks and depending on the next few months money wise we'll see but it's just a balance of whetehr I want to spend more alongside the advantage of lowering insurance in the future.

    For you it's almost definitely worth it, male insurance for our age is incredibly high

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 19:37

    Putting yourself on a 'classic' car for a year can also be a good way to bring down your premiums. A friend of mine was insured on his dads TR6 and his premium the following year for a clio was much lower than anyone elses

  • lou26/05/2009 at 19:37

    Ah, hope she's ok and everything :(

    yeah she is alright, a bit shaken but she is more upset that she may have wrecked her car.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 19:38

    There is, but that's even more money :( It'd be worth it in the long term because it can bring down insurance premiums but when you've spent £800+ already...

    You can do advanced driving for free. The Institute of Advanced Motorists http://www.iam.org.uk/ have groups of volunteers all over the country who will teach you for the cost of a club membership. There are insurance companies that wil give you a discount if you pass that test.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:38

    For you it's almost definitely worth it, male insurance for our age is incredibly high

    Very true, it is. Now all I need is to become a boy racer listening to thumpingly loud rave music, lose respect for other road users and try and impress my own self esteem in a modded up glowing, hydraualic-pumping ford fiesta. ;)

    wow, I suddenly feel dirty. *shudders*

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:39

    You can do advanced driving for free. The Institute of Advanced Motorists http://www.iam.org.uk/ have groups of volunteers all over the country who will teach you for the cost of a club membership. There are insurance companies that wil give you a discount if you pass that test.

    Cheers Steven, will take a look at that :)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 19:41

    yeah she is alright, a bit shaken but she is more upset that she may have wrecked her car.

    Aww, sucks that she's upset :(

    But at least she's ok though, which matters most in such situations no doubt

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/05/2009 at 19:41

    yeah she is alright, a bit shaken but she is more upset that she may have wrecked her car.

    Aww, sucks that she's upset :(

    But at least she's ok though, which matters most in such situations no doubt

    Crashes always suck. Wrote off me dad's car - he wasn't that mad but I felt crap about it...

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 19:42

    fake Bernie having a go at Jackie

    [email protected]_ You filthy-minded chav. My daughter may bare her all in underwear ads, but I'll not have anyone thinking her dad is a pervert.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 19:47

    Still getting used to lclt. Keep scrolling down to type something in. Still love it.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 19:49

    Cheers Steven, will take a look at that :)

    You can also try the Rospa advanced driving association? which run a program like the IAM but instead of a pass/fail test their test has three levels of pass. The top grade is the hisghest civilian driving qualification in the UK.

    http://www.roada.org.uk/

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 19:52

    Voting's closing on the Track cup... who voted for Valencia?

  • Kathi26/05/2009 at 19:59

    It's 11pm and still light outside. Finland is so confusing

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 20:09

    Hi guys. Today was going well until I found out I have to pay charges on overuse of the internet. Yes I know, I'm a clot, a massive one at that. But my dad's an even bigger one for not telling me until this afternoon that unless I don't pay what I owe, we both get cut off the contract - thing is he never told me I had to pay anything until now when he's had the bill since the 4th!

    My dad is *bleeping* useless sometimes...

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 20:09

    Hi guys. Today was going well until I found out I have to pay charges on overuse of the internet on my phone

    Forgot that.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 20:11

    Hi guys. Today was going well until I found out I have to pay charges on overuse of the internet on my phone

    Can you upgrade to a larger data package? sometimes they let you off extra charges if you upgrade, you can always downgrade a month after

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 20:12

    Can you upgrade to a larger data package? sometimes they let you off extra charges if you upgrade, you can always downgrade a month after

    Contract's in my dad's name. And I doubt he'd want to do anything like that right now.

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 20:13

    But enough of that, how are we all? :)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 20:16

    But enough of that, how are we all? :)

    Tiiiiired. :(

  • RG26/05/2009 at 20:17

    Tiiiiired. :(

    Ditto. Added cramp.

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 20:28

    How is your relegation RG? I assume you are a magpie.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 20:29

    Haha, argument on twitter I just noticed:

    @fakebernie you are not a very nice man!! and your hair looks like a spiders web why are you so mean

    @fakerubens It's narcissistic drivers and egomaniacal team bosses that make me mean. I have to be mean, for the sake of the sport.

    @fakebernie yeah well you still have silly hair nyahnyah

  • RG26/05/2009 at 20:29

    How is your relegation RG? I assume you are a magpie.

    Nope. Spurs fan. My friends (part from 2) are Newcaslte though.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 20:31

    NASA have done it again. After scheduling the shuttle mission round all the motor racing and then screwing up they have given us another one.

    The next shuttle mission will launch at 7:17am EDT or 12:17pm UK. That is the same day Le Mans starts. So we get a space shuttle launch assuming NASA doesn't screw it up as the build up to a race with Franck in one of the starring roles.

    Seems like it could be a good day.

  • Benji26/05/2009 at 20:32

    Nope. Spurs fan. My friends (part from 2) are Newcaslte though.

    Ah I see, I am a Boro fan and Im actually excited...and why not we're going to Blackpool :-)

  • RG26/05/2009 at 20:34

    Ah I see, I am a Boro fan and Im actually excited...and why not we're going to Blackpool :-)

    Spose so. Wouldn't mind that, we get to go to Burnley. Which I'm not looking forward to.

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 20:49

    Do we know about the meeting in London on wednesday about 2010?

    Just wondering as I saw it but I'm usually a few days behind everyone ;)

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 20:50

    Do we know about the meeting in London on wednesday about 2010?

    No? Where is it, maybe i can turn up and report back!

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 20:50

    No? Where is it, maybe i can turn up and report back!

    Just found it on the BBC saying the teams would be meeting for more discussions

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8069121.stm

  • lou26/05/2009 at 20:50

    Do we know about the meeting in London on wednesday about 2010?

    i hadn't heard about it. but i haven't checked my reader since sunday.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 20:52

    Do we know about the meeting in London on wednesday about 2010?

    I did say in F1 Minute that the teams would be meeting again, but didn't know when it was.

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 20:53

    Anyone fancy a Ferrari 430 that was driven by Bruno Senna?

    http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/24624/Ferrari_430_Challenge__Bruno_Senna.html

    Only a reasonable *ahem* £130,000

    hmm

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 20:55

    Only a reasonable *ahem* £130,000

    Will he accept trades? I have a kitkat

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 20:56

    Will he accept trades? I have a kitkat

    and i have a Nokia phone thats been down the toilet and in a lake....

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 20:56

    and i have a Nokia phone thats been down the toilet and in a lake....

    We're nearly there!!

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 20:57

    and i have a Nokia phone thats been down the toilet and in a lake....

    Why did you flush?

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 20:58

    Why did you flush?

    It wasn't my fault with the toilet, twas my dads old phone and he sat on the loo and it fell out his pocket, luckily he noticed ;)

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 20:59

    We're nearly there!!

    http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/24332/Ford_Fiesta_ST_Cup_ex_Works_car.html

    Ford Fiesta...its b-e-a-utiful :D

  • me26/05/2009 at 21:09

    and i have a Nokia phone thats been down the toilet and in a lake....

    Why did you flush?

    :D

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 21:10

    and i have a Nokia phone thats been down the toilet and in a lake....

    Why did you flush?

    and for the second time in a week, its taken me a looooooooooong time to get a joke. thats rather funny hehe :D

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:12

    NASA have published some great pictures to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Apollo missions.

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/images/apollo_book_images.html

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:21

    For anyoneinterested in Le Mans the entry list can be found at

    http://www.lemans.org/24heuresdumans/pages/engages_gb.html

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:22

    For anyoneinterested in Le Mans the entry list can be found at

    Christijan Albers is doing it? Woo, gonna support him then.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 21:23

    For anyoneinterested in Le Mans the entry list can be found at

    realistically how much of a chance does Ant Davidson stand at finishing well?

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:25

    realistically how much of a chance does Ant Davidson stand at finishing well?

    The Aston LMP1 won on it's debut. It's gotta be good!

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:26

    The Aston LMP1 won on it's debut. It's gotta be good!

    Against the Audi?

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 21:27

    The Aston LMP1 won on it's debut. It's gotta be good!

    what race?

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:27

    realistically how much of a chance does Ant Davidson stand at finishing well?

    I don't think the Aston can compete with the Audis or the Peugeots but it will probably be the next fastest car. The chances are that the best he can hope for would be third if we lose 4 of the Audis/Peugeots or they hit problems

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:27

    realistically how much of a chance does Ant Davidson stand at finishing well?

    I meant to say his car looks like the best Aston crew

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 21:28

    I meant to say his car looks like the best Aston crew

    How come he doesn't have the first number, or is this assigned in a different way>?

  • lou26/05/2009 at 21:30

    I don't think the Aston can compete with the Audis or the Peugeots but it will probably be the next fastest car. The chances are that the best he can hope for would be third if we lose 4 of the Audis/Peugeots or they hit problems

    okay. that's good then :D also looking at the list i'd forgotten Franck and le seb were in the same car...

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:32

    okay. that's good then :D also looking at the list i'd forgotten Franck and le seb were in the same car...

    Thank god Klien's not in Franck's car this year.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:33

    How come he doesn't have the first number, or is this assigned in a different way>?

    Up to the team how they select who gets which number. Aston always request 007/008 etc. Seems odd to give 007 to a Czech/German crew

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 21:33

    Do team china stand a chance?>

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:33

    Thank god Klien's not in Franck's car this year.

    Klien is a good driver. The incident last year, was not his fault...

  • me26/05/2009 at 21:33

    Thank god Klien's not in Franck's car this year.

    he can still hit him tho.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:34

    okay. that's good then :D also looking at the list i'd forgotten Franck and le seb were in the same car...

    Le Seb better notscrew up or he will end up locked in the cupboard with Christian Klien

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:34

    Thank god Klien's not in Franck's car this year.

    If he crashes Minassian's car he will punch him

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:35

    he can still hit him tho.

    Would he dare hit a car in his own team?

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:35

    Do team china stand a chance?>

    Never heard of team China

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:35

    Klien is a good driver. The incident last year, was not his fault...

    He drove into a gravel trap

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:36

    He drove into a gravel trap

    Nuff said.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:36

    He drove into a gravel trap

    The, er, race track pushed him off.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:36

    he can still hit him tho.

    You better be up to date with Christine's blog if you are going to make comments like that

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:37

    The, er, race track pushed him off.

    Yeah, nice try...

  • me26/05/2009 at 21:37

    he can still hit him tho.

    You better be up to date with Christine's blog if you are going to make comments like that

    i am. sorta.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:38

    Yeah, nice try...

    No, got it. It was really Montagny driving in Klien's helmet.

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:38

    i am. sorta.

    Mind you, Christine did forget Franck's birthday...

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:38

    No, got it. It was really Montagny driving in Klien's helmet.

    ...

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:38

    No, got it. It was really Montagny driving in Klien's helmet.

    Noo, I didn't mena Montagny, I meant the other driver. Oh god here comes the minus points again.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 21:39

    No, got it. It was really Montagny driving in Klien's helmet.

    you know if christine see's that she may not be too happy ;)

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 21:39

    The Aston LMP1 won on it's debut. It's gotta be good!

    There were no pegeuot's at hte track and the audi/s had a baaaaaaad day. So it's not that hard to win

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:39

    Noo, I didn't mena Montagny, I meant the other driver. Oh god here comes the minus points again.

    :D

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 21:40

    There were no pegeuot's at hte track and the audi/s had a baaaaaaad day. So it's not that hard to win

    No i lie, there wasnt an audi there

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 21:40

    No, got it. It was really Montagny driving in Klien's helmet.

    WHAT???

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 21:40

    Mind you, Christine did forget Franck's birthday...

    I didn't forget. I didn't know in the first place. Now I do.

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:41

    I didn't forget. I didn't know in the first place. Now I do.

    Only because I did that blog post ;)

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:41

    WHAT???

    I'll be on my own team for the panel next time.

  • Christine26/05/2009 at 21:41

    Only because I did that blog post ;)

    True. And I gave you credit.

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 21:42

    True. And I gave you credit.

    That you did :)

  • Lukeh26/05/2009 at 21:43

    Righteo, I'm off to watch a film so I shall see you guys in the morning. Night all :)

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:43

    Night Mr Lukeh

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:45

    I think the Le Mans people have chose the drivers' nationalities out of a hat. I noticed they had McNish down as being from Monaco then I noticed that Darren Turner is down as CHE (Cheshire?). They have Verstappen as German, Peter Kox as British, Minassian as British, Brabham as British, Neel Jani is CHE,

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:45

    Night Lukeh

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:46

    CHE (Cheshire?).

    Apparantly CHE means Switzerland

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:49

    Apparantly CHE means Switzerland

    Once I found Neel Jani I thought that but I don't get it. CH is Switzerland but CHE? Wonder when Darren Turner became Swiss

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 21:50

    Just noticed there is a Mansell racing so no dount daddy will be bugging us on the radio. Leo is in the number 84 LMGT2 Ferrari 430

  • RG26/05/2009 at 21:50

    Once I found Neel Jani I thought that but I don't get it. CH is Switzerland but CHE? Wonder when Darren Turner became Swiss

    I found it on some Abbreviation codes site.

    Think the rest have been chosen randomly, or by where they live?

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 21:53

    Once I found Neel Jani I thought that but I don't get it. CH is Switzerland but CHE? Wonder when Darren Turner became Swiss

    I think there are both 2 letter and 3 letter national code systems

    GB and GBR

    FR and FRA

    ES and ESP

    IT and ITA

  • Andy Taylor26/05/2009 at 22:00

    Once I found Neel Jani I thought that but I don't get it. CH is Switzerland but CHE? Wonder when Darren Turner became Swiss

    CH(E) = Confoederatio H(e)lvetica

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:00

    Bruno Senna is in the number 10 Oreca with Stephane Ortelli who was one of McNish's team mates when he won the first time in the Porsche and Tiago Monteiro.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:01

    CH(E) = Confoederatio H(e)lvetica

    You mean it makes sense? Well apart from Darren Turner not being Swiss.

  • Andy Taylor26/05/2009 at 22:04

    You mean it makes sense? Well apart from Darren Turner not being Swiss.

    Of course it makes sense. Amazingly, this is something I know because of an I-spy book!

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 22:04

    You mean it makes sense? Well apart from Darren Turner not being Swiss.

    Does he live in Switzerland?

  • littlepurplegoth26/05/2009 at 22:05

    You mean it makes sense? Well apart from Darren Turner not being Swiss.

    Of course it makes sense. Amazingly, this is something I know because of an I-spy book!

    And here I was thinking that it made sense because of Asterix and Obelix....

    :-D

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:05

    Does he live in Switzerland?

    No idea

  • Andy Taylor26/05/2009 at 22:06

    And here I was thinking that it made sense because of Asterix and Obelix....

    That came later

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 22:06

    Bruno Senna is in the number 10 Oreca with Stephane Ortelli who was one of McNish's team mates when he won the first time in the Porsche and Tiago Monteiro.

    I'm sure Tiago's done Le Mans in a GT2 Porsche back in 1998/1999.

  • littlepurplegoth26/05/2009 at 22:07

    That came later

    Not where I grew up :-D

    (scuse us - we're sitting a floor away from each other tonight :-) )

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 22:08

    Having not watched it before, what % of runners finish on average?

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:08

    I'm sure Tiago's done Le Mans in a GT2 Porsche back in 1998/1999.

    1999, finished 16th

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 22:08

    Having not watched it before, what % of runners finish on average?

    Maybe at least 40%.

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 22:09

    1999, finished 16th

    Ah yes the Monteiro brothers 911. Always getting into trouble in that race.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:09

    Ah yes the Monteiro brothers 911. Always getting into trouble in that race.

    What happend?

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 22:11

    Maybe at least 40%.

    Wow, that's less than i thought! Is it more failures or Incidents that thin out the field?

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 22:11

    What happend?

    Ah, just seen that he did the 1999 race in a Paul Belmondo Viper.

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 22:11

    Wow, that's less than i thought! Is it more failures or Incidents that thin out the field?

    Bit of both.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:13

    Wow, that's less than i thought! Is it more failures or Incidents that thin out the field?

    You get a mixture of people crashing out and mechanical failures. Bear in mind they are doing the equivalent of a full F1 season in a day.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 22:15

    You get a mixture of people crashing out and mechanical failures. Bear in mind they are doing the equivalent of a full F1 season in a day.

    Yeah, i can barely keep a car on the track for a lap in GRID, should be a good watch, is it on tv over here or is it streaming?

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 22:16

    Yeah, i can barely keep a car on the track for a lap in GRID, should be a good watch, is it on tv over here or is it streaming?

    It is, but only on the likes of Motors TV and Eurosport.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:16

    Yeah, i can barely keep a car on the track for a lap in GRID, should be a good watch, is it on tv over here or is it streaming?

    Probably Eurosport or Motors TV will cover it.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:16

    Yeah, i can barely keep a car on the track for a lap in GRID, should be a good watch, is it on tv over here or is it streaming?

    No idea what the TV coverage will be butI am sure we will find streams

  • Scott Woodwiss26/05/2009 at 22:17

    Probably Eurosport or Motors TV will cover it.

    Well I know for a fact Eurosport will, I saw an advert on there for Le Mans.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:18

    Well I know for a fact Eurosport will, I saw an advert on there for Le Mans.

    It is Eurosport

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65441

    They had a three year contract last year, so this year and the next.

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:20

    Christine tweeted about this earlier and I have to say I love it. Can't stop clicking on the play button. We need to find a way to get it into a show.

    http://www.sadtrombone.com/

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:22

    I guess if sidepodquiz is ever resurrected the trombone can be a wrong answer and the www.instantrimshot.com can be a correct answer.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:23

    Christine tweeted about this earlier and I have to say I love it. Can't stop clicking on the play button. We need to find a way to get it into a show.

    I'm keeping that tab open all day, theres always opportune moments to play that.

  • lou26/05/2009 at 22:25

    Jenson has a new audio diary up on his site!!!! hehehe... you can tell he is smiling the whole way through it.

    !!!!

    .......

    ......and breathe....

    ................

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:27

    I just saw this on diggnation http://twitter.com/penciljesus

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 22:29

    I guess if sidepodquiz is ever resurrected the trombone can be a wrong answer and the www.instantrimshot.com can be a correct answer.

    Wot no pinger?

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:29

    I guess if sidepodquiz is ever resurrected the trombone can be a wrong answer and the www.instantrimshot.com can be a correct answer.

    Sidepodquiz. Ah yes, wheres that gone?

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 22:29

    Evenin' all

  • lou26/05/2009 at 22:30

    Evenin' all

    hey, how was your day?

  • me26/05/2009 at 22:31

    Sidepodquiz. Ah yes, wheres that gone?

    we couldn't do it at the same time as podpanel. it'll be back shortly.

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:31

    we couldn't do it at the same time as podpanel. it'll be back shortly.

    Yay!

  • Steven Roy26/05/2009 at 22:40

    If you feel the need for musical instruments RG you should try this

    http://www.kenbrashear.com/

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:42

    If you feel the need for musical instruments RG you should try this

    And thats me away for the night. :)

  • RG26/05/2009 at 22:45

    And thats me away for the night. :)

    Might as well go now anyway, Maths Revision in the morning. Night.

  • Nick26/05/2009 at 22:52

    Night RG

  • Jon Waldock26/05/2009 at 22:56

    Night

  • Bassano Clapper26/05/2009 at 23:20

    hey, how was your day?

    Day was fine, have just spent the last 15mins compiling evidence in response to my cousin and the 20 people cc'd that Ericsson aren't actually giving away free laptops if I forward this email to all my friends

    Was kinda fun actually in a 'don't be silly', patronising way! :D

  • Alianora La Canta27/05/2009 at 14:19

    It was the dullest Monaco ever though {Comment #733}

    Apart from the battle for the final point (which I found riveting, but I'm biased), it made Monaco 2007 look thrill-a-minute.

  • Alianora La Canta27/05/2009 at 14:28

    Yeah she’s mentioned that. I’ve no idea if it’s only allowed to have lessons from a qualified instructor or from parents but obviously you have to take the test with the right qualified people. {Comment #855}

    In the UK, anyone may instruct a learner as long as they're over 21, have over 3 years of experience and are legally permitted to drive the car in question (insured, holding a current car licence etc.). However, an instructor can only advertise driving lesson services or take gainful employment instructing if they're qualified.

  • Alianora La Canta27/05/2009 at 14:29

    isn’t there the pass plus scheme? {Comment #869}

    There is, but nobody's obliged to take it.