So, the earthquake didn't come, the world didn't end, and much to the chagrin of a number of American fundamentalist Christians, we're still earthbound. Given that, for believers and non-believers alike, life continues unabated, we may as well take the chance and press on with some news.

In the F1 world, Renault team owner Gerard Lopez has said it is unlikely that Robert Kubica will be fit enough to race in 2011. Fans of the poker playing Pole may get a chance to see him in the car this year, however, as Lopez mentioned the possibility that he could test his fitness with an appearance in a Friday practice session.

Pirelli's campaign to create excitement in even the most traditionally dull F1 races will continue at Monaco with the début of their supersoft tyre. According to the company's Motorsport Director, Paul Hembery, drivers will be lucky to make the compound last for even ten laps of the principality. Given the number of pitstops the crumbling tyres will likely necessitate, someone should start the betting on how many drivers are given penalties for unsafe release in the tiny pitlane. With the supersoft also due to be one of the compounds available in both Canada and Valencia, we should be in for all sorts of shenanigans in the coming races.

Alas, the teams seem unappreciative towards the idea of continuing this most wondrous of seasons into December. A plan to reschedule the Indian Grand Prix to December 4th, allowing Bahrain to be fit in back-to-back with Abu Dhabi, has met a distinctly frosty reception from both Ross Brawn and Eric Boullier, who seem to think that matters as trivial as actually giving mechanics some time off over the winter might be preferable to another round of “well Vettel will win but the fight for second is brilliant”.

Away from the fun and games in F1, Lib Dem MP John Hemming effectively blew a massive raspberry at the courts and the idea of super injunctions. Hemming, using parliamentary privilege to get around the injunction, named the footballer who allegedly had an affair with a Big Brother 'star' and then obtained a High Court order asking Twitter to reveal the identities of some 75,000 users who had been gleefully tweeting his identity to all and sundry for weeks. Legal minefields abound and, frankly, I'm pretty sure I couldn't care less.

Finally, anyone planning a flight in the UK this week would be best advised to have back up plans. Iceland has clearly got upset at not being in the international news much since the last ash cloud and has kindly sent another one our way, grounding flights in Scotland already. Speaking of Scotland, independence from the UK may come quicker than even the SNP hoped for as the winds howling about the country feel like they could quite easily tear the country off at the border and blow us merrily across the sea. I, for one, have have spent the day cowering from rattling window panes.

Hopefully I'll come out from behind the sofa long enough to see you in the comments.

411 responses

  • Alianora La Canta23/05/2011 at 23:18

    So Pirelli want their tyres to last 10 laps of a 78-lap race? That means hard tyres for at least 48 laps of the race. Oops.

  • Joe in Fla23/05/2011 at 23:24

    Hello all

  • Alianora La Canta23/05/2011 at 23:24

    Hello, Joe!

  • Joe in Fla23/05/2011 at 23:25

    Is there news coming out of Indy

  • Joe in Fla23/05/2011 at 23:29

    Is there news coming out of Indy

    Just read, poor Bruno.

  • Sidepodcast Update23/05/2011 at 23:45
  • Amy24/05/2011 at 00:36

    the bidding process for the 2020 Olympics started yesterday :) #scaryplanning

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 00:38

    the bidding process for the 2020 Olympics started yesterday :) #scaryplanning

    Step away from the internet

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 00:57

    Interesting daily Simon and a lot of politics for a Sidepodcast post.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 02:23

    #sidepodspace

    It's a busy day in space today. As I write this 3 members of the station crew are a few minutes from landing their Soyuz in Kazakhstan.

    Also later today we have the third spacewalk of the shuttle mission.

    Of course all of this will be covered by NASA TV and spaceflightnow.com

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 02:31

    It's a busy day in space today. As I write this 3 members of the station crew are a few minutes from landing their Soyuz in Kazakhstan.

    Soyuz landed perfectly. Time for bed

    Night all

  • Sidepodcast Update24/05/2011 at 05:45
  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 06:27

    Morning.

    Got a friend and colleague stuck in Edinburgh because yesterday they had high winds, today is ash. ICELAND!!! *SHAKES FIST*

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 07:28

    Please read Jason C's reply to comment 13 in this post ;) http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/05/ferrari-not-enjoying-the-hard-life/

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 07:44

    Is there news coming out of Indy

    Just read, poor Bruno.

    I cant see how anyone can call F1 contrived in comparison to indycar doing that.

    I dont watch much indy car, but now i will be watching it even less.

    What a joke! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91682

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:45

    IndyCar made me angry last night. I think anyone following my Twitter would have seen my displeasure.

    the sad thing is, Junqueira was also replaced post-qualifying in 2009 by Tagliani.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:46

    Also, this quote from Foyt made me quite angry:

    "We've been competitors for many years but still it's the kind of relationship when someone is really down and out, you can't turn your back on them - at least I can't," said Foyt.

    So AJ. When someone is down, you kick your own guy to kerb?? Ughhhh...

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:49

    On the plus side, an Indy related podcast should be coming soon.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:51

    Racer.com interview with Junqueira. Showing class and dignity as always

    http://www.racer.com/junqueira-confirms-indy-exit/article/203605/

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 07:52

    Got a friend and colleague stuck in Edinburgh because yesterday they had high winds, today is ash. ICELAND!!! *SHAKES FIST*

    Should also add Mrs. Goat expects to be working late the next few days...

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:53

    Got a friend and colleague stuck in Edinburgh because yesterday they had high winds, today is ash. ICELAND!!! *SHAKES FIST*

    Emma Bearpark is supposed to be working Indy next week, but tweeted that her first flight is down and out

    :/

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 07:54

    IndyCar made me angry last night. I think anyone following my Twitter would have seen my displeasure.

    the sad thing is, Junqueira was also replaced post-qualifying in 2009 by Tagliani.

    What a farce. Can you imagine if someone did that in F1 (even if it were allowed)?

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 07:56

    I wonder why someone like zukerberg doesnt just decide to race at indy (since it is this weekend) and just buy a seat on the gird from a poorer team

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:56

    What a farce. Can you imagine if someone did that in F1 (even if it were allowed)?

    Sadly - as I pointed out in the Indy 500 qualifying thread - the car qualifies and not the driver.

    Another Foyt quote that annoyed me:

    "This is going back to the way racing used to be, where if people were in a lot of trouble, you tried to help each other out."

    Sorry AJ, but just because it's the way racing used to be, doesn't mean it's right

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 07:56

    What a farce. Can you imagine if someone did that in F1 (even if it were allowed)?

    Scrap Quali, just have an auction for pole

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 07:57

    Sadly - as I pointed out in the Indy 500 qualifying thread - the car qualifies and not the driver.

    Thats not really relevent in a spec series

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:57

    Scrap Quali, just have an auction for pole

    People saying that all last night on Twitter, forums, FaceBook, etc... Just eBay the pole spot.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:57

    Thats not really relevent in a spec series

    It's the rules in US racing and always has been

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 07:58

    Thats not really relevent in a spec series

    That is a very good point Nick. Especially after running the cars for so long in that series!

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 07:58

    Any news on Sarah Fisher BTW? She a mom yet?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:58

    Any news on Sarah Fisher BTW? She a mom yet?

    She's 6 months gone now

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 07:58

    People saying that all last night on Twitter, forums, FaceBook, etc... Just eBay the pole spot.

    I seriously wonder why someone like danica doesnt just buy a spot further up the gird.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 07:59

    People saying that all last night on Twitter, forums, FaceBook, etc... Just eBay the pole spot.

    Tony Cotman's company tweeted last night "Does this mean AJ has money for an aerokit?"

    ;)

    I seriously wonder why someone like danica doesnt just buy a spot further up the gird.

    If you buy a spot, you have to start last

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:00

    Tony Cotman's company tweeted last night "Does this mean AJ has money for an aerokit?"

    Haha!

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 08:01

    If you buy a spot, you have to start last

    thats one thing i suppose,

    Still, if f1 qualifying has been devalued by people saving tires, its lightyears ahead of indycar

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:02

    The sad thing, Andretti-Autosport's only potential championship is still on the sidelines.

    #SponsorsBuyingRides-NoThanks

    The next time someone complains to me about "foreigners taking drives of American", I know I'll have plenty of ammunition.

    Still, if f1 qualifying has been devalued by people saving tires, its lightyears ahead of indycar

    If IndyCar changed the rules to drivers qualifying as opposed to cars, it might help. An even better rule would be "once the field is locked, it's locked."

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:03

    Does this add or take away from the Trulli Train? http://twitter.com/#!/EliGP/status/72921828745691136

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:03

    Does this add or take away from the Trulli Train? twitter.com/#!/El…72921828745691136

    Hehehe

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 08:04

    If IndyCar changed the rules to drivers qualifying as opposed to cars, it might help. An even better rule would be "once the field is locked, it's locked."

    You definatly shouldnt be allowed back in if you have a go and DNQ

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 08:05

    People saying that all last night on Twitter, forums, FaceBook, etc... Just eBay the pole spot.

    can't , after change of driver they go to the back of the grid :-)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:06

    You definatly shouldnt be allowed back in if you have a go and DNQ

    Exactly - he tried on Saturday and didn't get in. He tried on Sunday and didn't get it.

    So, is this a new saying - "lose on Sunday, buy on Monday?"

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:06

    can't , after change of driver they go to the back of the grid :-)

    I know that, but others don't

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 08:07

    Does this add or take away from the Trulli Train? twitter.com/#!/El…72921828745691136

    there Trulli is the train but the engine is not as good as previously thought, obviously 270 times the cars got ahead of the train engine :-)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:08

    What does Junqueira have to do though? He's had his post-quali Indy drive bought twice and also broke his back there too.

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 08:08

    I know that, but others don't

    oooh, secret business plan ! :-)

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:11

    What does Junqueira have to do though? He's had his post-quali Indy drive bought twice and also broke his back there too.

    Apparently, bring more money.

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 08:11

    Apparently, bring more money.

    sounds like motorsport

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:13

    sounds like motorsport

    As previously commented though, how many supposedly top-level or decent rank formulae have one driver qualify only to be replaced by someone who DNQ'd?

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 08:15

    If you thought your ISP was bad... http://twitter.com/#!/tomgara/statuses/72931927023304704

  • Alex Andronov24/05/2011 at 08:29

    I don't really know enough Indy to comment on the story but I have a question. Isn't it bad to let a rival driver drive your car? Won't he be able to steal information? Or is the car he's borrowing rubbish or something?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:30

    Also, Andretti-Autosport's tech-director, Tom Anderson, has been sacked after what happened.

    Won't he be able to steal information? Or is the car he's borrowing rubbish or something?

    Not as big a deal, because the car itself is so old.

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:30

    I don't really know enough Indy to comment on the story but I have a question. Isn't it bad to let a rival driver drive your car? Won't he be able to steal information? Or is the car he's borrowing rubbish or something?

    Technically the cars are exactly the same - the difference is in the team's preparation and the drivers, right?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:31

    Technically the cars are exactly the same - the difference is in the team's preparation and the drivers, right?

    Yep.

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:31

    Also, Andretti-Autosport's tech-director, Tom Anderson, has been sacked after what happened.

    Probably worth it - they should be doing better.

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 08:31

    I don't really know enough Indy to comment on the story but I have a question. Isn't it bad to let a rival driver drive your car? Won't he be able to steal information? Or is the car he's borrowing rubbish or something?

    They all use the same cars so no design info to steal.

    I guess setup info could be taken but they could reset all that before handing it over. I think given its a pooerer team they shouldnt know anything the others dont, but then again they quali'd and he didnt

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 08:33

    Is Milka Duno going to be racing in the Indy 500?

    Isnt she a racing pile of cash?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:33

    Probably worth it - they should be doing better.

    It's a tough one, but as stated on Saturday, they've been losing engineers hand-over-fist since 2007. A lot of their background staff have left for other teams - and been successful elsewhere

  • Alex Andronov24/05/2011 at 08:33

    Not as big a deal, because the car itself is so old.

    Ahhh, got you

  • Alex Andronov24/05/2011 at 08:33

    Technically the cars are exactly the same - the difference is in the team's preparation and the drivers, right?

    makes sense...

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:33

    Is Milka Duno going to be racing in the Indy 500?

    Isnt she a racing pile of cash?

    Duno's Venezuelan money is now resting Frank Williams account

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:35

    It's a tough one, but as stated on Saturday, they've been losing engineers hand-over-fist since 2007. A lot of their background staff have left for other teams - and been successful elsewhere

    Ah ok. Just thought if Sam Michael was sacked for what he wasn't doing then it was fair for this guy.

    It's a sick team though.

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:36

    Ahhh, got you

    The chassis itself has been raced in America for 10 years so in theory all the teams should have it figures out now. That's why rookies in newish teams were able to qualify this year.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:36

    It's a sick team though.

    Too many drivers, personalities and ego's with much of the stability removed

  • Nick24/05/2011 at 08:37

    Duno's Venezuelan money is now resting Frank Williams account

    Thats a shame, maybe Hugo himself could have a go :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:37

    Thats a shame, maybe Hugo himself could have a go :)

    :D

    Too many drivers, personalities and ego's with much of the stability removed

    Also, expect them to be down to 2/3 drivers next year

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:38

    Thats a shame, maybe Hugo himself could have a go :)

    I know a few Venezuelans who aren't happy about Pastor because of his sponsorship.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:50

    The chassis itself has been raced in America for 10 years so in theory all the teams should have it figures out now. That's why rookies in newish teams were able to qualify this year.

    On the other hand, the chassis built by Dallara is recent years have been lighter and a little more nimble, but that'd be the only change

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 08:53

    I know a few Venezuelans who aren't happy about Pastor because of his sponsorship.

    Because he isn't very good?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 08:56

    Because he isn't very good?

    I'm sure the money could be better used than funding several racing drivers.

    :)

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 08:59

    Because he isn't very good?

    Because he has made certain comments that he loves his dear president, and most of the expats do not ;)

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 09:00

    I'm sure the money could be better used than funding several racing drivers.

    that can be said about money spent on Olympics, World Cups, F1 races or any sport sponsorship etc etc ... And by the way, that sponsorship is not that different from Petronas sponsorhip (except that Petronas money does not come with Malaysian driver attached)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:01

    Gotta say, last night's episode of Trackside was really good - dug into the Andretti-Autosport situation somewhat

    http://www.1070thefan.com/trackside/podcast.aspx

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:01

    that can be said about money spent on Olympics, World Cups, F1 races or any sport sponsorship etc etc ... And by the way, that sponsorship is not that different from Petronas sponsorhip (except that Petronas money does not come with Malaysian driver attached)

    Yep

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 09:03

    @Pearcesport 2 BBC colleagues have had accounts debited for Olympic tickets. The rush is on. 1 million accounts due to be debited by tomorrow

    Good luck British Sidepodfolk who want to go!

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:05

    Officially had enough of my mobile - just ordered an iPhone 3

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 09:06

    Officially had enough of my mobile - just ordered an iPhone 3

    they still sell 3 ?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:06

    they still sell 3 ?

    well, it's a refurbished 3

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 09:07

    Officially had enough of my mobile - just ordered an iPhone 3

    3G or 3GS?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:07

    3G or 3GS?

    3G i think

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 09:07

    Officially had enough of my mobile - just ordered an iPhone 3

    What did you have?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:08

    What did you have?

    Some 5 year old Nokia with broken buttons

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 09:09

    Some 5 year old Nokia with broken buttons

    buttons should not break on iPhone :-)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:10

    Just checked - I ordered a 3GS

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 09:12

    buttons should not break on iPhone :-)

    The big glass one does.

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 09:12

    Just checked - I ordered a 3GS

    How much more expensive was a 4?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:13

    How much more expensive was a 4?

    Didn't check to be honest. Not sure I need it - I rarely ever call anyone, get called and texts are a rarity for me

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:14

    When it comes to phones, I am utterly fussless

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 09:14

    Didn't check to be honest. Not sure I need it - I rarely ever call anyone, get called and texts are a rarity for me

    The 4 is much faster, mind.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:15

    The 4 is much faster, mind.

    to be honest, I won't really be needing the apps, etc... this is purely to have a working phone for emergencies, but £18.50 per month, it's a nice emergency phone

    :)

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 09:21

    to be honest, I won't really be needing the apps, etc... this is purely to have a working phone for emergencies, but £18.50 per month, it's a nice emergency phone

    You will be using it more than that though. Mrs Goat felt the same way before she got hers and she's a proper geek now.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:25

    You will be using it more than that though. Mrs Goat felt the same way before she got hers and she's a proper geek now.

    Probably, it depends. To be honest, when I'm not around technology, I'm not fussed. For example, if I ever leave my phone at home, I never think about it or worry about missing e-mails, calls or texts - it's just another thing.

    Can't imagine going mad over what is just another phone.

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 09:28

    Can't imagine going mad over what is just another phone.

    Ah you probably wont go mad for it, but once you see what it can do you will end up using it in ways you won't even have thought of ;)

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 09:35

    Some 5 year old Nokia with broken buttons

    A Nokia lasting 5 years??? Did it sit in a draw for all that time?

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 09:35

    morning

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:35

    A Nokia lasting 5 years??? Did it sit in a draw for all that time?

    It only lasted due to lack of use

    ;)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 09:35

    Morning Mav

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 09:37

    It only lasted due to lack of use

    i counted my last nokia in weeks, last time I go back to them

    still not sure how I was convinced that they'd moved on from using poor materials

  • Simon Furnivall24/05/2011 at 09:53

    Weather update: We now have blue skies above, rain blowing in from somewhere and it's still ridiculously windy. I know it's Edinburgh, not exactly famed for good weather, but it's almost June now, I've had enough. I may also be quite grumpy this morning.

    The Hunter-Reay/Junqueira stuff is complete nonsense. Saturdays in F1 may not be overly exciting this season, but I'd still prefer that to having drivers able to buy themselves a place on the grid. It just goes against all sporting instinct, and you have to feel very sorry for Junqueira.

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 10:09

    The Hunter-Reay/Junqueira stuff is complete nonsense. Saturdays in F1 may not be overly exciting this season, but I'd still prefer that to having drivers able to buy themselves a place on the grid. It just goes against all sporting instinct, and you have to feel very sorry for Junqueira.

    this is what happens when sport is no longer sport but a show. F1 should be careful not to forget that while show is important racing should always come first.

    I for one am not still convinced that what is happening with the tyres this year is all good. Yes the races are more exciting etc etc but I feel that few guys at Pirelli have way too much influence on how the weekend goes. Fine, give the teams two compounds but do not change the rules of game from race to race. I really do not get it how can they just come and bring new very different hard tyre for a race ...

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 10:16

    booo I wanted to reward my awesome run in the rain with a new jacket to run in in the rain in future but my size is out of stock. Bah.

  • Lukeh24/05/2011 at 10:17

    Morning guys. Tis nice to wake up and have some tennis on tv :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 10:17

    Hi Lukeh

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 10:17

    Morning guys. Tis nice to wake up and have some tennis on tv :)

    ahhhndee!

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 10:18

    I wonder if RG will be supporting RHR for Indy in this instance? I wonder how RHR fans are feeling in general about this?

  • Lukeh24/05/2011 at 10:18

    ahhhndee!

    woohoo!

    Prodon is pretty much falling apart :)

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 10:19

    Prodon is pretty much falling apart :)

    I've never heard of him and it's a little too early for such an upset!

    Although Berdych lost yesterday and he was in the semis last year :)

  • Lukeh24/05/2011 at 10:20

    Although Berdych lost yesterday and he was in the semis last year :)

    didn't cilic lose too though on the first day? I'm certainly not a tennis expert but I've heard of him and didn;t think he'd go out on the first day

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 10:21

    didn't cilic lose too though on the first day? I'm certainly not a tennis expert but I've heard of him and didn;t think he'd go out on the first day

    yeah, hes a firecracker that one. He'll either go deep and take out a big name or he'll lose in the first or second round and ridiculously not meet his potential. Unfortunately he hasn't gone deep in anything since the Aus Open last year.

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 10:26

    Prodon is pretty much falling apart :)

    I read that as Proton and thought "wow, did I miss some Bahar news ?" :-)

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 10:42

    i counted my last nokia in weeks, last time I go back to them

    still not sure how I was convinced that they'd moved on from using poor materials

    I'm surprised at this - my first phone was a Nokia, lasted for 4 years before I upgraded it to a PDA and is still used as the house backup phone (on a different SIM).

  • Simon Furnivall24/05/2011 at 10:51

    I for one am not still convinced that what is happening with the tyres this year is all good. Yes the races are more exciting etc etc but I feel that few guys at Pirelli have way too much influence on how the weekend goes. Fine, give the teams two compounds but do not change the rules of game from race to race. I really do not get it how can they just come and bring new very different hard tyre for a race ...

    I agree with you in that F1 has to be careful that it doesn't prioritise "the show" at all costs and over the sporting element, but I feel that so far this season they've got the balance just about right. If the supersoft tyre does fall apart in Monaco as quickly as Pirelli seem to expect to, however, I think that may be a step too far down the road of an "artificial" product.

  • Lukeh24/05/2011 at 10:58

    Yaaaay Murray wins.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 10:58

    As previously commented though, how many supposedly top-level or decent rank formulae have one driver qualify only to be replaced by someone who DNQ'd?

    Only reason it hasn't happened in F1 at any point since I started watching is because there's a rule that bars post-scrutineering/Friday replacements (depending on which year you're on about) unless force majeure exists.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 10:59

    Yaaaay Murray wins.

    Well done Murray :)

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 10:59

    I agree with you in that F1 has to be careful that it doesn't prioritise "the show" at all costs and over the sporting element, but I feel that so far this season they've got the balance just about right. If the supersoft tyre does fall apart in Monaco as quickly as Pirelli seem to expect to, however, I think that may be a step too far down the road of an "artificial" product.

    I am not sure how the Monaco will work out but what Pirelli did for Turkey was in my opinion not too different from artificial rain or Bernie's shortcuts. Those ideas always result in outrage of fans but slowing a hard tyre by 2 secs a lap from race to race is OK ...

    I understand that this being Pirelli's 1st season in F1 the tyres need much more development and feedback than Bridgestones did all those years. But I find it a bit too much when in one season FIA is experimenting with and tweaking the DRS zones while Pirelli plays around with tyres and impacts of tweaks and changes in both of these things are being tested in actual races not in testing ... Yes, the conditions are same for everybody but that still does not make this right in my humble opinion

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 10:59

    What does Junqueira have to do though? He's had his post-quali Indy drive bought twice and also broke his back there too.

    Persuade the Indy 500 organisers to change the rules?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 11:01

    Only reason it hasn't happened in F1 at any point since I started watching is because there's a rule that bars post-scrutineering/Friday replacements (depending on which year you're on about) unless force majeure exists.

    The 107% rule also helped and as I said, a car in IndyCar qualifies and not the driver, whereas in F1, the driver qualifies.

    Persuade the Indy 500 organisers to change the rules?

    It's not the 500 rule, it's a blanket thing across racing in the US in general. Same for NASCAR, etc... too

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 11:07

    The 107% rule also helped and as I said, a car in IndyCar qualifies and not the driver, whereas in F1, the driver qualifies.

    The driver doesn't qualify in F1 either. Heinz-Harald Frentzen didn't qualify for France 2002 in his Arrows, the DNQ was confirmed by the stewards but he nearly got on the grid in a Jordan anyway (it was only blocked by difficulties in securing the contract - this was the year after Jordan sacked Heinz-Harald). If drivers qualified in F1, then the attempt would have been impossible.

    It's simply that with the ban on swapping out drivers after qualifying, 99.9% of the time it doesn't matter whether it's the driver or car that is deemed to qualify because they are, for nearly all intents and purposes, treated as the same thing.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 11:08

    It's not the 500 rule, it's a blanket thing across racing in the US in general. Same for NASCAR, etc... too

    Scratch that idea, then - it may be a tad difficult for one driver alone, however unlucky he may be...

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 11:10

    It's simply that with the ban on swapping out drivers after qualifying, 99.9% of the time it doesn't matter whether it's the driver or car that is deemed to qualify because they are, for nearly all intents and purposes, treated as the same thing.

    Didn't realise. Maybe contracts are looser for IndyCar / NASCAR owners are presented with a bucket of cash.

    In this case, it helps that Hunter-Reay's entry is being listed as a Foyt car, thereby giving Foyt owner points should Hunter-Reay do well.

  • Bert24/05/2011 at 11:39

    Listening to the current podcast....

    I must take exception with the discussion of the pit-lane safe-release issue. For me, the safe release was not an issue. the cars were release within instants of each other and it would have been impossible to prevent that.

    My issue is with drivers straddling the blue lane delimiting the fast lane and the pit lane. This year the fast lane width was reduced, in order to not allow two cars to run side by side. The blue lane is NOT an area to be driven on, much like the areas outside the two white lines that delimit the track, but I digress. Under no circumstance should cars be in the blue lane other than the time required to get in to or out of the (slow) pit-lane. This is the second (or third?) instance that we have seen this year. I am not judging if Webber should have lifted to let Alonso in, or if Alonso should have left Webber by (not holding my breath).

    Drivers should not be driving down the blue lane and race control should send every instance to the stewards for review.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 11:40

    In this case, it helps that Hunter-Reay's entry is being listed as a Foyt car, thereby giving Foyt owner points should Hunter-Reay do well.

    That would help, though it's still not much fun for poor Bruno :(

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 11:41

    That would help, though it's still not much fun for poor Bruno :(

    Nope - the entire situation sucks and has created a very bad feeling amongst a lot of fans.

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 11:42

    In this case, it helps that Hunter-Reay's entry is being listed as a Foyt car, thereby giving Foyt owner points should Hunter-Reay do well.

    That would help, though it's still not much fun for poor Bruno :(

    Gotta admit, Bruno's been very unfortunate in general with his motorsport career. IIRC, wasn't he the guy who lost out to Jenson Button for that Williams seat in 2000?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 11:44

    Nope - the entire situation sucks and has created a very bad feeling amongst a lot of fans.

    Also, this is the media week prior to the 500 - I've seen in a few interviews that hosts are bringing this subject up with other drivers on shows, thereby bringing the problem to a wider arena.

    Although that may inadvertently help change the rule (even though it probably won't)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 11:44

    IIRC, wasn't he the guy who lost out to Jenson Button for that Williams seat in 2000?

    Yep

  • Sidepodcast Update24/05/2011 at 11:45
  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 11:46

    Drivers should not be driving down the blue lane and race control should send every instance to the stewards for review.

    There's even a long-standing regulation against it (Article 23.1b) states there will be only one area where teams may work, though the act may technically breach Article 23.1e concerning improving pit lane grip and, for the part where the FIA's area was used, 26.1 e) about nobody using the area without the FIA technical delegate's express permission) but there's precedent for it being ignored (Massa in Valencia 2008, among other things).

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 11:46

    Gotta admit, Bruno's been very unfortunate in general with his motorsport career. IIRC, wasn't he the guy who lost out to Jenson Button for that Williams seat in 2000?

    Yes!

  • Mr C24/05/2011 at 11:50

    Listening to the current podcast....

    podcast discussion thread: http://sidepodcast.com/post/f1-debrief-i-guess-you-cant-fault-his-enthusiasm

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 11:55

    I'm surprised at this - my first phone was a Nokia, lasted for 4 years before I upgraded it to a PDA and is still used as the house backup phone (on a different SIM).

    the Nokia story is a sad one, they pretty much ruled the mobile phone market and then at some point they started using cheap materials (left behind on technology too). I'm not surprised that you have a very old Nokia still going. currently, casings have started getting better but they still seem to use the softest material they could find for the screens. you can try putting them in a case but you'll as likely scratch the screen with the case

  • Alex Andronov24/05/2011 at 12:13

    There's even a long-standing regulation against it (Article 23.1b) states there will be only one area where teams may work, though the act may technically breach Article 23.1e concerning improving pit lane grip and, for the part where the FIA's area was used, 26.1 e) about nobody using the area without the FIA technical delegate's express permission) but there's precedent for it being ignored (Massa in Valencia 2008, among other things).

    I believe that Brundle said on the commentary that the technical delegate had given that permission.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:13

    Good afternoon

    Half days are brilliant, MOTs are.... well, we'll see I guess

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 12:13

    the Nokia story is a sad one, they pretty much ruled the mobile phone market

    Sounds like the story of Finns in F1 :-)

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:14

    the Nokia story is a sad one, they pretty much ruled the mobile phone market

    When mobile phones were cheap and plentiful...

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 12:23

    When mobile phones were cheap and plentiful...

    When mobile phones were just that, mobile phones, not the mobile entertainment and productivity devices :-)

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:25

    When mobile phones were just that, mobile phones, not the mobile entertainment and productivity devices :-)

    With mine, it's one or the other. Rarely both :D

  • F1Wolf24/05/2011 at 12:31

    With mine, it's one or the other. Rarely both :D

    Similar here and so I have one simple nokia (that I had to pay for) and iPhone that I got for free

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 12:32

    ping! http://amysrunning.posterous.com/week-1-day-1-0

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 12:33

    the Nokia story is a sad one, they pretty much ruled the mobile phone market and then at some point they started using cheap materials (left behind on technology too). I'm not surprised that you have a very old Nokia still going. currently, casings have started getting better but they still seem to use the softest material they could find for the screens. you can try putting them in a case but you'll as likely scratch the screen with the case

    Oh. I didn't realise Nokia had stopped making the rugged basic units that worked so well for them in the past. Suddenly all the complaints make sense.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 12:34

    I believe that Brundle said on the commentary that the technical delegate had given that permission.

    To run through their garage area in the race? Didn't hear that bit of the commentary...

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 12:34

    With mine, it's one or the other. Rarely both :D

    It's the tiny screen space, I tell thee :D

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:35

    Oh. I didn't realise Nokia had stopped making the rugged basic units that worked so well for them in the past. Suddenly all the complaints make sense.

    I think they have taken the squalling of units at rock bottom prices philosophy to extreme

    Expect the mobile arm to be flogged to Microsoft within 18-24 months

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:36

    *squillions of units

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 12:37
  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:41

    Christine: Potential film of the year! You heard it here first

    Stick with the triailer, it's worth it

    http://youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CloKbXtD28&v=6CloKbXtD28&gl=GB

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:43

    Link fail, one sec

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 12:44

    Christine: Potential film of the year! You heard it here first

    Oh lord. I must say I didn't see that coming.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:44

    Christine: Potential film of the year! You heard it here first

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CloKbXtD28&sns=em

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:45

    Oh lord. I must say I didn't see that coming.

    :D

    That's pretty much how Dave Gorman's tweet presented it.

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 12:47

    Christine: Potential film of the year! You heard it here first

    and cars 2 is out in a month! Good year for movies :)

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 12:49

    and cars 2 is out in a month! Good year for movies :)

    ooh it doesn't look like its showing at my local but Senna is

    http://www.cinemanova.com.au/filmsoon.html

    That wasn't there last time I looked :)

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 12:51

    ooh it doesn't look like its showing at my local but Senna is

    In August? That's quite a long time to wait...

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 12:52

    In August? That's quite a long time to wait...

    the way they've released this movie around the world is stuuuuupid :(

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:54

    the way they've released this movie around the world is stuuuuupid :(

    Sounds like there's a director's Q&A everywhere though so they get credit for the personal touch.

    2 in London in the next fortnight

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 12:55

    Sounds like there's a director's Q&A everywhere though so they get credit for the personal touch.

    I'd be surprised if they did one down here though, they didn't when it was showing at the Adelaide Film Festival

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 12:56

    Christine: Potential film of the year! You heard it here first

    Oh lord. I must say I didn't see that coming.

    Neither did I. Can't waaait!

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 12:57

    I'd be surprised if they did one down here though, they didn't when it was showing at the Adelaide Film Festival

    Well it is Adelaide ;)

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 13:02

    @EliGP: Aldo Costa has left Ferrari. Story coming up

  • Alex Andronov24/05/2011 at 13:03

    Christine: Potential film of the year! You heard it here first

    he he he :)

  • James24/05/2011 at 13:04

    @EliGP: Aldo Costa has left Ferrari. Story coming up

    Not hugely surprising, he hasn't had much success and I was reading this morning that he and Tombazis were possible up for the chop.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:06

    @EliGP: Aldo Costa has left Ferrari. Story coming up

    I wasn't expecting this sort of timing. He hasn't been as successful as the Brawn/Byrne duo but then who would be (other than Newey)?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 13:07

    Meanwhile, Renault have entered competition for most delused team. I like their optimism.

    Renault aims to fight for win in Monaco - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91686

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:09

    Meanwhile, Renault have entered competition for most delused team. I like their optimism.

    Renault aims to fight for win in Monaco - www.autosport.com…port.php/id/91686

    With Kubica, maybe. Not with Petrov/Heidfeld.

  • James24/05/2011 at 13:09

    I wasn't expecting this sort of timing. He hasn't been as successful as the Brawn/Byrne duo but then who would be (other than Newey)?

    they clearly want someone in to work on next years car.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:09

    Renault aims to fight for win in Monaco - www.autosport.com…port.php/id/91686

    They've got an excellent chance - provided the Monaco win is for "Funniest Twitterer in F1".

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:09

    @EliGP: Aldo Costa has left Ferrari. Story coming up

    I wasn't expecting this sort of timing. He hasn't been as successful as the Brawn/Byrne duo but then who would be (other than Newey)?

    Pat Fry's arrival has made him... surplus to requirements. LDM's Italianization of Ferrari hasn't exactly worked out.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:10

    they clearly want someone in to work on next years car.

    I'm just not convinced of who might be good enough.

    If they're doing this in reaction to Williams' turf-out, they're probably doomed.

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 13:10

    With Kubica, maybe. Not with Petrov/Heidfeld.

    Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 13:10

    LDM's Italianization of Ferrari hasn't exactly worked out.

    Again

  • James24/05/2011 at 13:12

    Pat Fry's arrival has made him... surplus to requirements. LDM's Italianization of Ferrari hasn't exactly worked out.

    I don't think Fry has, at least not yet. I believe Fry's job at the moment is to assemble a group of engineers.

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:12

    I'm just not convinced of who might be good enough.

    Aldo Costa and Sam Michael on the market is good news for lower midfield teams, though, who could really use their expertise.

  • James24/05/2011 at 13:13

    I'm just not convinced of who might be good enough.

    They won't have given Costa the boot if they didn't have someone lined up. At least I hope not :)

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:13

    LDM's Italianization of Ferrari hasn't exactly worked out.

    Again

    A shame for Aldo, though. Italian or not, wasn't he Rory Byrne's protege?

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 13:14

    the way they've released this movie around the world is stuuuuupid :(

    agreeeeeed!

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 13:14

    Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

    Panis won there!

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 13:14

    Pressdog goes off on one. I feel for him, especially as he actually went to Bump Day.

    http://pressdog.typepad.com/dogblog/2011/05/andretti-autosport-buys-a-spot-in-the-indy-500-can-i-get-my-350-back-now.html

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:15

    Pat Fry's arrival has made him... surplus to requirements. LDM's Italianization of Ferrari hasn't exactly worked out.

    Not in F1 it hasn't...

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 13:16

    Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

    Aye - Ralf won 6 Grand Prix. Who'd have thought?

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 13:16

    Not for those with Vertigo, the 10 most extreme jumps ever via @AussieGrit:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuuTKnV76PQ

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 13:18

    I don't think Fry has, at least not yet. I believe Fry's job at the moment is to assemble a group of engineers.

    The Red Bull podcast talks about how he fooled Ferrari into pitting Alonso early by pretending to prep for Webber's stop

    Rookie mistake

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 13:19

    Panis won there!

    That was wet wasn't it and retirements a go go

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 13:20

    *they fooled Ferrari

    [the RBR team]

  • James24/05/2011 at 13:20

    I don't think Fry has, at least not yet. I believe Fry's job at the moment is to assemble a group of engineers.

    The Red Bull podcast talks about how he fooled Ferrari into pitting Alonso early by pretending to prep for Webber's stop

    Rookie mistake

    Indeed. I'm surprised Domenicali seems to still be hanging on.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:22

    The Red Bull podcast talks about how he fooled Ferrari into pitting Alonso early by pretending to prep for Webber's stop

    Pretending to prep for pitstops is only allowed up to a certain point. Still, strategy in 2011 is more about running your own race, stopping when you need to do so, than patterning it to other people's.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:22

    That was wet wasn't it and retirements a go go

    4 finishers and 3 other people classified despite crashing.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:23

    Indeed. I'm surprised Domenicali seems to still be hanging on.

    Maybe because he asked to go?

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 13:25

    Indeed. I'm surprised Domenicali seems to still be hanging on.

    Maybe because he asked to go?

    Someone needs to answer to Luca :D

  • James24/05/2011 at 13:26

    Someone needs to answer to Luca :D

    :)

    from Scarbs: I'm also hearing about a lot of other staff changes within maranello, perhaps an all new senior management team will be in place

    so he might yet be one the people to 'move jobs'.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:28

    from Scarbs: I'm also hearing about a lot of other staff changes within maranello, perhaps an all new senior management team will be in place

    Musical chairs (or sedie musicali as they probably call it over there)!

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 13:31

    The Red Bull podcast talks about how he fooled Ferrari into pitting Alonso early by pretending to prep for Webber's stop

    Ironic seeing as Ferrari did the similar tactics in the past!

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:32

    Pretending to prep for pitstops is only allowed up to a certain point. Still, strategy in 2011 is more about running your own race, stopping when you need to do so, than patterning it to other people's.

    We haven't seen a lot of that, have we? It's been much more reactive than proactive.

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 13:32

    Panis won there!

    That was wet wasn't it and retirements a go go

    Yes, but I would definitely file that under "Stranger things have happened"

    A Renault could win. So could Schumacher. That's why I love Monaco - it's crazy and mental and fun!

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:33

    The Red Bull podcast talks about how he fooled Ferrari into pitting Alonso early by pretending to prep for Webber's stop

    Ironic seeing as Ferrari did the similar tactics in the past!

    Although before that golden era, Ferrari were somewhat like they are now, except they were even slower back then. :D

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:33

    We haven't seen a lot of that, have we? It's been much more reactive than proactive.

    As I've said a few times, some of the teams haven't adjusted their thinking yet.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:34

    A Renault could win. So could Schumacher. That's why I love Monaco - it's crazy and mental and fun!

    Absolutely!

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:34

    A Renault could win. So could Schumacher. That's why I love Monaco - it's crazy and mental and fun!

    As much as I'd love MSC to win, that's a real long shot. Folks, this year, "someone other than Red Bull winning" is a very strange thing indeed.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 13:35

    As much as I'd love MSC to win, that's a real long shot. Folks, this year, "someone other than Red Bull winning" is a very strange thing indeed.

    McLaren have a decent track record at Monaco but we'll see

    It'd be nice to have a fresh winner

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:36

    It'd be nice to have a fresh winner

    Agreed.

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 13:37

    It'd be nice to have a fresh winner

    Nico please.

    That still feels odd to me.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 13:37

    A Renault could win. So could Schumacher. That's why I love Monaco - it's crazy and mental and fun!

    If Schuey wins, it'll be proof that the apocalypse occurred, but we just happens to be looking the wrong way.

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 13:37

    Nico please.

    Ooh. That would be interesting.

  • Alison24/05/2011 at 13:38

    Eveninggg :D

    I'm flying home late tonight. Mainly hoping for a sudden ash surge :) Only before I take off though. Rather not be stranded at Schipol thanks.

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:38

    A Renault could win. So could Schumacher. That's why I love Monaco - it's crazy and mental and fun!

    If Schuey wins, it'll be proof that the apocalypse occurred, but we just happens to be looking the wrong way.

    C'mon, Schumi, c'mon! :D

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 13:38

    Nico please.

    What if Glock won?

  • Alison24/05/2011 at 13:39

    A Renault could win. So could Schumacher. That's why I love Monaco - it's crazy and mental and fun!

    Is it Kubica that was always MEGA at Monaco? Shame he isn't there.

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 13:39

    What if Glock won?

    I like Timo :D

    Not gonna happen though.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 13:41

    If Schuey wins, it'll be proof that the apocalypse occurred, but we just happens to be looking the wrong way.

    Haven't you heard, it's Oct 21st now

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 13:42

    I'm flying home late tonight. Mainly hoping for a sudden ash surge :) Only before I take off though. Rather not be stranded at Schipol thanks.

    Good luck Alison

    [whichever is preferable :D]

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:45

    Link for Aldo Costa: http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/05/24/aldo-costa-out-in-latest-ferrari-reshuffle/

    The new role of chassis director (the closest thing to Costa's old role)will be taken by Pat Fry.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 13:45

    Haven't you heard, it's Oct 21st now

    This year? I'm sure Schuey will win something that day

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:46

    The new role of chassis director (the closest thing to Costa's old role)will be taken by Pat Fry.

    *breathes a sigh of relief*

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 13:46

    *breathes a sigh of relief*

    why so?

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:50

    why so?

    I'd worried for a moment they were reacting to the Williams resignations and about to put Sam Michael and Jon Tomlinson in charge...

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 13:51

    I'd worried for a moment they were reacting to the Williams resignations and about to put Sam Michael and Jon Tomlinson in charge...

    No difference really. They're being typically Italian and being reactionary rather than figuring out the why...

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 13:56

    No difference really. They're being typically Italian and being reactionary rather than figuring out the why...

    Pat Fry might turn out to be some good as a technical director. At least he may be inclined to try something other than developing a theme that previously hasn't worked out...

  • Alison24/05/2011 at 14:12

    I'm flying home late tonight. Mainly hoping for a sudden ash surge :) Only before I take off though. Rather not be stranded at Schipol thanks.

    Good luck Alison

    [whichever is preferable :D]

    I'm not sure.... Tempting to hope for stranded here but in reality, I'd be missing my earnings pretty quickly I reckon!

  • RubberGoat24/05/2011 at 14:13

    I'm not sure.... Tempting to hope for stranded here but in reality, I'd be missing my earnings pretty quickly I reckon!

    Mrs. Goat has her fingers crossed that she doesn't have to work late tonight... I am cooking her a nice plate of pasta though!

  • Alison24/05/2011 at 14:19

    Mrs. Goat has her fingers crossed that she doesn't have to work late tonight... I am cooking her a nice plate of pasta though!

    Yummy! Nick's gone to get his sister and her two bambanis so I'm not sure I'm in for a super exciting night! :D

  • Alison24/05/2011 at 14:21

    Yummy! Nick's gone to get his sister and her two bambanis so I'm not sure I'm in for a super exciting night! :D

    I'm back at work tomorrow afternoon though. I'll be well hacked off if I'm late, I've got a super busy week coming up.

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 14:39

    Rafa has never lost a set in the first or second rounds at Roland Garros and now hes two sets to one down to little Johnny Isner <3

    How can I possibly sleep now!

  • Journeyer24/05/2011 at 14:43

    Rafa has never lost a set in the first or second rounds at Roland Garros and now hes two sets to one down to little Johnny Isner <3

    How can I possibly sleep now!

    Ugh. Now I won't sleep! :P

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 14:51

    Rafa has never lost a set in the first or second rounds at Roland Garros and now hes two sets to one down to little Johnny Isner <3

    I was watching some highlights on the iPlayer earlier. Am only two days behind!

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 14:53

    Rafa has never lost a set in the first or second rounds at Roland Garros and now hes two sets to one down to little Johnny Isner <3

    Soderling not having a great time either - lost the second set

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 14:54

    I was watching some highlights on the iPlayer earlier. Am only two days behind!

    I get so confused by the timing of other slams. Why take 3 days to play the first round? I think Melbourne is the only one that makes sense to me :D

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 14:55

    I was watching some highlights on the iPlayer earlier. Am only two days behind!

    also: the Roland Garros iPad app has good highlights and they're probably shorter than the iPlayer :)

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 14:56

    also: the Roland Garros iPad app has good highlights and they're probably shorter than the iPlayer :)

    Sold!

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 15:09

    In news from other courts:

    Johnys friend Mr Mahut just lost the first set over on court 7.

    Almagro is out, he was predicted by some experts to get to the quarters or better, oops :)

    and the Kiwi is leading her first set. She hasn't been in the main draw of a slam since Australia last year so that makes me happy.

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 15:13

    two sets a piece. bah.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 15:25

    My car got a podium place at the MOT challenge

    I'm scared of taking a nap in case I wake up and find the decision overturned

    #RuinedByF1

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 15:40

    The Senna movie guys are on The Flying Lap with Windsor at 18:00 BST

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 15:40

    The Senna movie guys are on The Flying Lap with Windsor at 18:00 BST

    Again?

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 15:41

    Again?

    Aye

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 15:49

    Aye

    I must admit, I haven't listened to that show for weeks. The thought of another round of platitudes to these guys when I can't even see the film does not appeal.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 15:50

    I must admit, I haven't listened to that show for weeks. The thought of another round of platitudes to these guys when I can't even see the film does not appeal.

    Just getting a bit on the repetitive side for guests now.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 15:53

    Just getting a bit on the repetitive side for guests now.

    I suppose I kind of stopped watching around the Jim Clark special. I was beginning to get the whole "I heard this already" kind of feeling.

    Plus, I still think the show would be better if he concentrated on a single guest as opposed to trying to squeeze in two or three in a haphazard manner.

  • Leigh O'Gorman24/05/2011 at 15:56

    Anyhoo, I had split - see you later all

    :)

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 16:01

    Rafa wins it in 4 hours.

    At least John can say hes the first person in 7 years to make him play 5 sets in Paris :)

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 16:02

    At least John can say hes the first person in 7 years to make him play 5 sets in Paris :)

    I don't suppose that will placate him much though.

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 16:03

    I don't suppose that will placate him much though.

    no, but to draw Rafa in your first round is always a bit rough. I was shocked when I saw he wasn't seeded because I haven't been following him as closely as I should this year and he was top 20 when I saw him in Melbourne!

  • Amy24/05/2011 at 16:07

    heheh

    @rolandgarrosEN Umpires better hope that #799 Zarah Razafimahatratra doesn't ascend the rankings. #umpiresnightmare

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 16:09

    This is in Italian, but Ferrari deserve #points for this video because Luca talks to a guy on the ISS!

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 16:11

    ScarbsF1:

    Mercedes Monaco press preview confirms the drivers use a pedal to operate DRS rather than the steering wheel.

    More pedal than paddle!

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 16:20

    This is in Italian, but Ferrari deserve #points for this video because Luca talks to a guy on the ISS!

    needs translating first - let's be sure he's not complaining that Alonso was robbed :-)

    p.s. was the link missing

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 16:22

    p.s. was the link missing

    as always, sorry!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIz49zKuHS4&feature=youtu.be

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 16:29

    p.s. was the link missing

    Definitely worth points for that but I think I would take a couple away for the ridiculously big sign on his desk and the desk looking like it belonged in the 70s. Still he offered Cady Coleman the chance to go to Maranello and drive the 599 on the track so that has to be lots of points.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 16:31

    New date for the end of the world. Lots of believers are upset because they sold their houses and spent money on advertising the end of the world. You couldn't make this up

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/new-deadline-set-for-the-end-of-the-world-20110524.html

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 16:32

    ...and the desk looking like it belonged in the 70s.

    Boutros boutros ghali. Scorchio!

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 16:33

    Boutros boutros ghali. Scorchio!

    I had no idea you were fluent in Italian

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 16:36

    New date for the end of the world. Lots of believers are upset because they sold their houses and spent money on advertising the end of the world. You couldn't make this up

    I mentioned this earlier in a casual way. First twitter, now God. This one has precedent: The Man Who Sued God

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 16:36

    I had no idea you were fluent in Italian

    I wouldn't say fluent, so this may not be 100% accurate...

    he is telling the ISS that by the time they get back to earth, Ferrari may have set up a rival series were they will run 3 cars and the winner will be decided by who should have won rather than by who got to the finish line first. Red Bull and Adrian Newey are not invited.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 16:39

    Is Kathi ok in Iceland?

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 16:39

    New date for the end of the world.

    Has he done a Homer Simpson?

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 16:42

    Has he done a Homer Simpson?

    Apparently The Rapture is a bit like The Indy 500, it takes 5 months to complete

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 16:42

    Apparently The Rapture is a bit like The Indy 500, it takes 5 months to complete

    Did you know he has a degree in civil engineering?

    And we know how accurate the Wembley completion date was...

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 16:43

    Did you know he has a degree in civil engineering?

    Social engineering more like! :)

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 16:44

    Is Kathi ok in Iceland?

    I posted a comment when the first news of the volcano happened and have seen nothing from her since.

    The last comment I saw from her was that they were snowed in and they had to go out and get all the sheep and lambs inside. I guess with a thousand sheep to look after inside and more being born all the time she does not have much free time to comment

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 16:44

    Social engineering more like! :)

    it's a BS degree according to wiki

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 16:45

    Did you know he has a degree in civil engineering?

    That explains why he said people should not believe him

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 16:47

    New date for the end of the world. Lots of believers are upset because they sold their houses and spent money on advertising the end of the world. You couldn't make this up

    #nopolitics

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 16:48

    #nopolitics

    That's not politics.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 16:59

    Changing the subject, an interesting [and technical] piece about tyre slip angles via Darren Heath:

    Read this to get a great understanding of #f1 tyre slip angle; http://bit.ly/mI9Clz Thanks @PeterDWindsor & @thepratperch

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 17:02

    Must be a Renault truck:

    MBrundleF1: Pick up truck caught fire and burned brand new Tarmac at turn in point to Monaco St Devote, first corner. Urgent repairs http://t.co/6F5JshS

    F1Fires

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 17:04

    MBrundleF1: Pick up truck caught fire and burned brand new Tarmac at turn in point to Monaco St Devote, first corner. Urgent repairs http://t.co/6F5JshS

    As if there were not enough accidents/spins at that corner

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 17:14

    Read this to get a great understanding of #f1 tyre slip angle; http://bit.ly/mI9Clz Thanks @PeterDWindsor & @thepratperch

    I heard Brundle's comment during the race and suggested that Giggles should make one of his technical videos on it because I think the subject of tyre slip would come as a surprise to a lot of people. Brundle and DC made a total mess of explaining it.

    Put simply in a corner the wheels are not travelling in the direction they are pointing. They may be travelling 5 degrees of that direction. Therefore 5 degrees would be the slip angle

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 17:19

    Put simply in a corner the wheels are not travelling in the direction they are pointing. They may be travelling 5 degrees of that direction. Therefore 5 degrees would be the slip angle

    That's a good explanation

    That article took a long time in order to fail to say that

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 17:22

    FIA are intending to introduce 5-place grid penalties for picking up 3 reprimands in a season

    this year it is likely to start from silverstone, and all previous reprimands this season will not be counted, but at least reprimands can finally add up to something tangible

    http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/05/24/fia-to-introduce-three-strikes-grid-penalties/

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 17:22

    That article took a long time in order to fail to say that

    It is a really simple concept and I had no idea it was difficult to explain until I heard Brundle and DC sound like they had no idea what it was. They have to understand it but they sounded clueless.

    It's the first time I have ever heard Brundle sound out of his depth.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 17:23

    this year it is likely to start from silverstone, and all previous reprimands this season will not be counted, but at least reprimands can finally add up to something tangible

    Inching closer to an official naughty step

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 17:24

    FIA are intending to introduce 5-place grid penalties for picking up 3 reprimands in a season

    Another knee-jerk decision. When are these clowns ever going to learn?

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 17:24

    Another knee-jerk decision. When are these clowns ever going to learn?

    Apparently it was agreed by the Sporting Working Group

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 17:25

    Inching closer to an official naughty step

    Give it 3 years and it will be a 1 place grid penalty for murder

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 17:28

    Give it 3 years and it will be a 1 place grid penalty for murder

    i think ferrari would still appeal

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 17:35

    that's nice, the FIA have decided to lock up all their timing and event information for each race behind a password

    http://www.fia.com/en-gb/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/home_page.aspx

    now what was I saying about Jean Todt doing a good job?

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 17:39

    Some non-NASA space thing came home. Nice pic

    Welcome back to planet Earth - Dima, Paolo, and Cady! Soyuz TMA-20 touches down 'softly' on the Kazakh Steppe...   http://twitpic.com/51zm8l

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 17:41

    Soyuz TMA-20 touches down 'softly' on the Kazakh Steppe...   http://twitpic.com/51zm8lMust be next to the Naughty Step

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 17:41

    Some non-NASA space thing came home. Nice pic

    It was a Russian Soyuz with 3 members of the ISS crew. Paolo and Cady were the two who were in the Ferrari video earlier

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 17:43

    Christine's Rankings day today, if you've spotted anything I need to know about, please do shout.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 17:44

    It was a Russian Soyuz with 3 members of the ISS crew. Paolo and Cady were the two who were in the Ferrari video earlier

    http://sidepodcast.com/post/daily-24th-may-2011#comment-1100935

    It was the best live video of a Soyuz landing I have ever seen. Of course it's nowhere near as exciting as a shuttle landing as it's just a few tons of metal dangling from a parchute

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 17:44

    Christine's Rankings day today, if you've spotted anything I need to know about, please do shout.

    The Ferrari video earlier is a must

  • Sidepodcast Update24/05/2011 at 17:45
  • Eric the baker24/05/2011 at 17:50

    I was just skimming the F1 photography thread (I'll read the whole thing later) and it struck me how incredibly similar the offended and hostile attitude there reflects the same debate that went on a few years ago between the embedded newspaper/syndicated comic strip artists and the new breed of web-comics. Wow.

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 18:03

    Ping: http://sidepodcast.posterous.com/alonso-the-lion

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:06

    Ping: sidepodcast.poste…m/alonso-the-lion

    Ferrari has changed. It used to be the car that won and the driver who lost.

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 18:11

    We might have missed a milestone.

    sidepodcast passed 1 million published comments during the spanish grand prix weekend. #f1 #kindaawesome

    D'oh.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:14

    We might have missed a milestone.

    sidepodcast passed 1 million published comments during the spanish grand prix weekend. #f1 #kindaawesome

    D'oh.

    Awesome. It is unbelievable that there have been so many comments.

    I think this proves that you have finally achieved what you set out to do when you took all the comment counts off the site. No-one even noticed the million

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 18:15

    I think this proves that you have finally achieved what you set out to do when you took all the comment counts off the site. No-one even noticed the million

    Ha, yes.

    It's not all that meaningful in the grand scheme of things. Lots of comments are hi's and byes, lots are pings, and an inordinate number are about Nick's kettle :)

    Still, it's a pretty cool milestone.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:17

    It's not all that meaningful in the grand scheme of things. Lots of comments are hi's and byes, lots are pings, and an inordinate number are about Nick's kettle :)

    Not noticing it at all was a total success.

    Still, it's a pretty cool milestone.

    I think it is incredible. When you consider that is from a cold start in 4 years it is really unbelievable.

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 18:24

    Ping: http://www.f1minute.com/news/ferraris-aldo-costa-steps-down-in-technical-department-reshuffle

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 18:37

    We might have missed a milestone.

    sidepodcast passed 1 million published comments during the spanish grand prix weekend. #f1 #kindaawesome

    D'oh.

    What was the millionth comment or is it a secret.

    It bet it was SU :)

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 18:37

    Hi everyone.

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 18:38

    I've just seen that Christine rate the Spanish Grand Prix with a 6. :'(

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:38

    It bet it was SU :)

    :D

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 18:38

    What was the millionth comment or is it a secret.

    Impossible to say really. I like the idea of it being Su. She's cool.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:38

    Hi Marti

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:38

    I've just seen that Christine rate the Spanish Grand Prix with a 6. :'(

    It was the best Spanish GP in a long time. Non of the last ten would have scored more than 2

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 18:39

    It was the best Spanish GP in a long time. Non of the last ten would have scored more than 2

    Yes, it was quite thrilling. I was at the track, following the race via radio.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:41

    Yes, it was quite thrilling. I was at the track, following the race via radio.

    So what was the best part about being there

  • Lukeh24/05/2011 at 18:41

    Impossible to say really. I like the idea of it being Su. She's cool.

    You can always trust SU to not cause any arguments :)

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 18:42

    that's nice, the FIA have decided to lock up all their timing and event information for each race behind a password

    You got that too huh? I wondered if it was some kind of mistake so I emailed them.

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 18:43

    So what was the best part about being there

    Well, Alonso start was incredible, and I was very nervous because I realized Sebastian Vettel couldn't overtake him. Then the first pit-stops were really interesting, just because we didn't know who would take the lead.

    Hamilton versus Vettel was another beautiful fight.

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 18:44

    So what was the best part about being there

    And yes, I saw a guy who seemed to be 'The Stig' spanish version.

  • Lukeh24/05/2011 at 18:44

    Well, Alonso start was incredible, and I was very nervous because I realized Sebastian Vettel couldn't overtake him. Then the first pit-stops were really interesting, just because we didn't know who would take the lead.

    Bet the crowd must've been incredible with alonso's start!

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 18:44

    Bet the crowd must've been incredible with alonso's start!

    Yes! People became just crazy!

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 18:45

    Ooh, Ganger Doctor: http://springfieldpunx.blogspot.com/2011/05/2-whosday-punx.html

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:50

    And yes, I saw a guy who seemed to be 'The Stig' spanish version.

    There was a mention on the TV commentary that a 'Stig' was in the pit lane

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 18:52

    There was a mention on the TV commentary that a 'Stig' was in the pit lane

    I am talking about one who was in a grandstand... This one :) http://twitpic.com/515r5a

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 18:54

    I am talking about one who was in a grandstand... This one :) http://twitpic.com/515r5a

    :D

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 18:55

    :D

    There were many fans who wanted to take a photo with him! The funny thing is that every single time he wanted to drink a "little bit" of beer he had to take off the helmet-dring-put on the helmet...

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 19:01

    There were many fans who wanted to take a photo with him! The funny thing is that every single time he wanted to drink a "little bit" of beer he had to take off the helmet-dring-put on the helmet...

    I think if I was him I would have given up after an hour

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 19:01

    I think if I was him I would have given up after an hour

    It was not his case. He resisted for two days hehehe.

  • MartiV824/05/2011 at 19:03

    Well, time to leave.

    See you!

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 19:04

    Bye Marti

  • Lukeh24/05/2011 at 19:04

    See you!

    Byee!

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:31

    You got that too huh? I wondered if it was some kind of mistake so I emailed them.

    I feel a rant coming on

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 19:33

    I feel a rant coming on

    are you sure that's what it is though?

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:34

    are you sure that's what it is though?

    it's like the photographers isn't it?

    protecting the pro's interests

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 19:35

    it's like the photographers isn't it?

    protecting the pro's interests

    I like rants

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 19:35

    it's like the photographers isn't it?

    protecting the pro's interests

    Yeah I don't get why the sudden change. There are other ways to get the data though: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CITwr80K&hl=en_GB&key=tQQIIA7x9VuyVKE7UVdrytg&hl=en_GB&authkey=CITwr80K#gid=0

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 19:35

    congrats on 1 million comments btw

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:38

    Yeah I don't get why the sudden change. There are other ways to get the data though: https://spreadshe…ey=CITwr80K#gid=0

    where do they get the data from?

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 19:38

    protecting the pro's interests

    It's not even that it is maintaining the status quo.

    If any of the photographers had a business brain they would go to some of their clients and ask them to sponsor a set of photos for free issue to bloggers.

    What does TW Steel more good? Having a series of pics they can use on ads or having 12-25 pics of each race distributed throughout the internet with their logo on it?

    Sometimes I wonder if anyone in F1 has a business brain that can think beyond what has always happened.

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 19:38

    I thought they always passworded old stuff.

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 19:39

    where do they get the data from?

    He Scrapes it from the FIA database.

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:39

    I thought they always passworded old stuff.

    they've passworded current stuff

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 19:39

    I thought they always passworded old stuff.

    They do but this is the Spanish results that are now protected

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 19:39

    I thought they always passworded old stuff.

    Maybe that's what happened. But it's only 2 days after the last Grand Prix!!!

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:39

    He Scrapes it from the FIA database.

    so it depends if he's got media access then?

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 19:39

    they've passworded current stuff

    Is it not just because they're moving on to Monaco stuff?

    Perhaps not. I don't know.

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 19:40

    so it depends if he's got media access then?

    He doesn't have it.

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 19:40

    Is it not just because they're moving on to Monaco stuff?

    I think it is, but I can't see anywhere else that has it.

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:40

    Is it not just because they're moving on to Monaco stuff?

    maybe

    someone hasn't moved it on to Monaco though

  • Bridget24/05/2011 at 19:40

    Evening all!

    What does TW Steel more good? Having a series of pics they can use on ads or having 12-25 pics of each race distributed throughout the internet with their logo on it?

    Sometimes I wonder if anyone in F1 has a business brain that can think beyond what has always happened.

    Good point. Don't you find that people tend to stick to what they know, though? Maybe they need some new-blood marketers to drag them into this decade?

  • Alison24/05/2011 at 19:42

    At the airport. No sign of any major ash emergency so far :P

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 19:42

    someone hasn't moved it on to Monaco though

    As far as I could tell, they usually lock up the old stuff and switch over on Wednesday, so I assumed someone just hit the button a bit early.

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:42

    Is it not just because they're moving on to Monaco stuff?

    maybe

    someone hasn't moved it on to Monaco though

    hasn't the side panel changed though? didn't it used to have the other races? It's just media accreditation and similar now

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:43

    As far as I could tell, they usually lock up the old stuff and switch over on Wednesday, so I assumed someone just hit the button a bit early.

    those pages aren't country specific though

    on-event information is the same link whatever race it is

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 19:44

    on-event information is the same link whatever race it is

    Oh. Dunno then. I'll wait till tomorrow and see if it's a problem then.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 19:46

    Good point. Don't you find that people tend to stick to what they know, though? Maybe they need some new-blood marketers to drag them into this decade?

    I almost handed them this idea in the photographers thread but they just get irate about people wanting pics for free. It didn't matter how often we told them there was a market. THey just want to carry on like nothing has changed in the world.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 19:47

    At the airport. No sign of any major ash emergency so far :P

    Is it safe to leave him alone?

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 19:47

    As far as I could tell, they usually lock up the old stuff and switch over on Wednesday, so I assumed someone just hit the button a bit early.

    Practise is a day early at Monaco, so they should have locked and transferred a day early. It's possible someone messed up the process.

  • Alison24/05/2011 at 19:47

    Is it safe to leave him alone?

    Probably not but what can you do :P

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:48

    Practise is a day early at Monaco, so they should have locked and transferred a day early. It's possible someone messed up the process.

    but that's the raw data

    the holding pages have been locked out, and they never do that

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 19:48

    Probably not but what can you do :P

    Getting out with your life is probably all you can hope for

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 19:48

    Good point. Don't you find that people tend to stick to what they know, though? Maybe they need some new-blood marketers to drag them into this decade?

    Yes. Even and especially when it doesn't work (several experiences of that in the workplace, which is one of several things that I'm convinced aren't taught at school in order to prevent the intelligent kids from deliberately living on benefits all their lives).

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 19:50

    the holding pages have been locked out, and they never do that

    The holding page still says "Spanish Grand Prix" for me but the raw data (and the menus they're in) is locked, indicating the transfer has happened but was botched.

    Normally the panel on the front page, menus and raw data are all transferred simultaneously.

  • Alison24/05/2011 at 19:50

    People behave very irrationally when they see a queue forming... Why do they get up and join it. I have managed to snag a chair as someone got up to stand in a queue at the gate that's just about to open now. Fools.

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:51

    The holding page still says "Spanish Grand Prix" for me but the raw data (and the menus they're in) is locked, indicating the transfer has happened but was botched.

    they don't lock the menus - they're not country specific

  • Rubbergoat24/05/2011 at 19:52

    they don't lock the menus - they're not country specific

    Let's just wait and see.

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 19:53

    Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/kindness-to-nature-affects-the-lead-of-christines-rankings

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 19:53

    I thought they always passworded old stuff.

    They do. Anything except the current race. Trouble is, the site is giving one indicator as to the current Grand Prix and the standard update procedure another.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 19:54

    they don't lock the menus - they're not country specific

    Strange. They always have when I've been using the site...

  • Christine24/05/2011 at 19:57

    Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/twitter-meets-trucks-in-the-team-rankings-this-week

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 19:57

    Strange. They always have when I've been using the site...

    it doesn't work like that. they have the race menu on which they just change the race name, then the sub menus on which they change the data links and which gets reset to no data when they change to the next race. it's handy for bookmarking.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 20:01

    It seems Google are Canon rather than Nikon people

    http://bassano.posterous.com/hmm-cnon-bunging-some-wedge-to-g00gle-nkon-se

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 20:01

    Does picture copyright end after 50 years?

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:02

    it doesn't work like that. they have the race menu on which they just change the race name, then the sub menus on which they change the data links and which gets reset to no data when they change to the next race. it's handy for bookmarking.

    That bookmarking system has never worked for me though. It's always been locked between 2 days and about 12 hours prior to first practise when I've tried that trick.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 20:03

    Does picture copyright end after 50 years?

    Like music?

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 20:05

    Like music?

    Saw a tweet by F1Photos about a website ripping off his work. I always thought old photos were ok? http://twitter.com/#!/F1Photo/status/73115014080380928

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 20:05

    Does picture copyright end after 50 years?

    70 years of photographers death, apparently [for UK & USA]

    Not sure when the copyright is owned by an agency

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 20:05

    70 years of photographers death, apparently [for UK & USA]

    http://www.pro-imaging.org/content/view/159/124/

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 20:06

    70 years of photographers death, apparently [for UK & USA]

    Cheers ta

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 20:07

    Saw a tweet by F1Photos about a website ripping off his work. I always thought old photos were ok? twitter.com/#!/F1…73115014080380928

    It's not even just a few photos they have taken.

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 20:08

    It's not even just a few photos they have taken.

    Nope it's a ton of them but what does he expect tweeters to do to help?

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 20:12

    Nope it's a ton of them but what does he expect tweeters to do to help?

    I have no idea beyond someone who speaks their language telling them that they just can't lift photos

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 20:12

    Nope it's a ton of them but what does he expect tweeters to do to help?

    RT

    PHC is one of the good ones in my eyes

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 20:16

    RT

    Done

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 20:16

    Done

    Ditto

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 20:17

    Ping: Preview – Monaco Grand Prix http://www.vivaf1.com/blog/?p=6482

  • Bridget24/05/2011 at 20:20

    I almost handed them this idea in the photographers thread but they just get irate about people wanting pics for free. It didn't matter how often we told them there was a market. THey just want to carry on like nothing has changed in the world

    I come up against the "new ideas" thing most days at work. Thankfully, my current boss is open-minded to my somewhat insane marketing suggestions, but he needs lessons on simple (to me, anyway) concepts like twitter marketing.

    Yes. Even and especially when it doesn't work (several experiences of that in the workplace, which is one of several things that I'm convinced aren't taught at school in order to prevent the intelligent kids from deliberately living on benefits all their lives).

    School education teaches one sweet ****-all! As does uni education, unless you're intending to become an academic in one's field. Most of my current job is the practice of the theory I was taught in lectures, but all the experience I have is from extra-hours non-credit assignments I volunteered for.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:21

    Does picture copyright end after 50 years?

    Life + 70 years if taken after 1 January 1996.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:22

    Saw a tweet by F1Photos about a website ripping off his work. I always thought old photos were ok? twitter.com/#!/F1…73115014080380928

    If by old you mean "pre-1945", they are.

    Somehow I doubt this is the case here!

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:23

    Nope it's a ton of them but what does he expect tweeters to do to help?

    Sympathise and maybe send notes of complaint to the perpetrators? Build a culture that doesn't tolerate such actions and refuses to co-operate with those who break the law?

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 20:23

    Life + 70 years if taken after 1 January 1996.

    And before?

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 20:23

    If by old you mean "pre-1945", they are.

    They are 50's and 60's

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:25

    I come up against the "new ideas" thing most days at work. Thankfully, my current boss is open-minded to my somewhat insane marketing suggestions, but he needs lessons on simple (to me, anyway) concepts like twitter marketing.

    I wish some of my bosses had been up to such complex notions - there was one in particular who couldn't get his head around the "new" idea of covering costs on components instead of the "make a loss for two weeks and then deny the service for 50" idea that had been in use for decades.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:26

    School education teaches one sweet ****-all! As does uni education, unless you're intending to become an academic in one's field. Most of my current job is the practice of the theory I was taught in lectures, but all the experience I have is from extra-hours non-credit assignments I volunteered for.

    Evidently you studied in different places to me. Even on the dole I get more practical use out of my school/uni education than what was taught at work.

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 20:26

    I come up against the "new ideas" thing most days at work. Thankfully, my current boss is open-minded to my somewhat insane marketing suggestions, but he needs lessons on simple (to me, anyway) concepts like twitter marketing.

    Most people are in favour of the status quo regardless what the status quo is. You can pick any subject and the majority are in favour of whatever they currently have.

    School education teaches one sweet ****-all! As does uni education, unless you're intending to become an academic in one's field. Most of my current job is the practice of the theory I was taught in lectures, but all the experience I have is from extra-hours non-credit assignments I volunteered for.

    There have been a few discussions on here about how useless current education is and how it should be reformed

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 20:27

    Somehow I doubt this is the case here!

    Most of those I saw on the site are from the 50s

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:28

    They are 50's and 60's

    Then it's 50 years from the end of the calender year they were printed except that any which were still copyrighted in 1996 would have had that extended to life + 70.

  • Bridget24/05/2011 at 20:33

    I wish some of my bosses had been up to such complex notions - there was one in particular who couldn't get his head around the "new" idea of covering costs on components instead of the "make a loss for two weeks and then deny the service for 50" idea that had been in use for decades

    Ugh. It's thinking like that that proves my dad's theory about how most people in management have been promoted past their IQ/pay-grade. I butter The Boss up with spreadsheets to identify money-haemorrhage, and then hit him with the twitter/blog/facebook ideas ;)

    Most people are in favour of the status quo regardless what the status quo is. You can pick any subject and the majority are in favour of whatever they currently have

    Perhaps people who have any get-up-and-go have got up and left?

    Evidently you studied in different places to me. Even on the dole I get more practical use out of my school/uni education than what was taught at work.

    Ja, our uni gave us practical experience, but all specialised. For example, if you'd like a lung capacity test and have the kit, I can totally do that for you, but work-flow organisation? That we learned the theory and it was assumed that if we wanted to know more, we'd hang around for an MSc.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:36

    Ja, our uni gave us practical experience, but all specialised. For example, if you'd like a lung capacity test and have the kit, I can totally do that for you, but work-flow organisation? That we learned the theory and it was assumed that if we wanted to know more, we'd hang around for an MSc.

    In my case I learned the theory and then discovered that because it involved at least one person doing some actual work to help someone, it was detested. Got away with it on work experience because apparently work experience people are meant to do all the work and enjoy themselves and the last job I was at had people who were sensible and had some sort of work ethic - and therefore didn't need any workflow organisation or other efficiency-improvement measures (they'd done all that themselves :) )

  • jackie24/05/2011 at 20:39

    Most of those I saw on the site are from the 50s

    There are 266 of them, that's rediculous

  • Bridget24/05/2011 at 20:49

    In my case I learned the theory and then discovered that because it involved at least one person doing some actual work to help someone, it was detested. Got away with it on work experience because apparently work experience people are meant to do all the work and enjoy themselves and the last job I was at had people who were sensible and had some sort of work ethic - and therefore didn't need any workflow organisation or other efficiency-improvement measures (they'd done all that themselves :) )

    Wow, you were lucky to get work experience! I had one actual-work opportunity in one of my majors, and (apart from compulsory class field trips) the other of my majors pretty much limited extra field work to the book-smart over-achievers (note: the ones who're most likely to bury themselves in post-grad, not actually work in the field).

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:52

    Wow, you were lucky to get work experience! I had one actual-work opportunity in one of my majors, and (apart from compulsory class field trips) the other of my majors pretty much limited extra field work to the book-smart over-achievers (note: the ones who're most likely to bury themselves in post-grad, not actually work in the field).

    That might be why. I was considered in that category. I'm not in post-grad for two reasons: money and deciding after my dissertation experience that academic research wasn't worth being messed around by other people to the extent that I was.

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 20:53

    Lotus F1 CEO Riad Asmat even has corporate coloured trainers :D

    http://instagr.am/p/EqzHo/

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 20:53

    Lotus F1 CEO Riad Asmat even has corporate coloured trainers :D

    :D

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 20:54

    Lotus F1 CEO Riad Asmat even has corporate coloured trainers :D

    http://instagr.am/p/EqzHo/

    it's stuff like that that made bahar want to work with someone else :-)

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 20:55

    it's stuff like that that made bahar want to work with someone else :-)

    It's stuff like that that makes me like them more :)

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 21:01

    It's stuff like that that makes me like them more :)

    must say i prefer them to a 'bespoke Lotus briefcase' or whatever it was Bahar was flogging

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 21:02

    must say i prefer them to a 'bespoke Lotus briefcase' or whatever it was Bahar was flogging

    Not that I'd be in the market for one but my bespoke briefcase specification would be "not green and yellow"

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 21:03

    Not that I'd be in the market for one but my bespoke briefcase specification would be "not green and yellow"

    black and gold?

    how about goldleaf scheme?

  • Bassano24/05/2011 at 21:05

    black and gold?

    Of course, sorry

    Even more no than before :D

  • Steven Roy24/05/2011 at 21:07

    #sidepodspace

    With all the changes of launch date and mission length I got the spacewalk dates wrong. The third spacewalk was not today but tomorrow. The whole thing as usual will be on NASA TV and spaceflightnow.com

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

  • Bridget24/05/2011 at 21:09

    That might be why. I was considered in that category. I'm not in post-grad for two reasons: money and deciding after my dissertation experience that academic research wasn't worth being messed around by other people to the extent that I was.

    Ah. I see your point - research projects never turn out how one would like them! I'm not in post-grad because I have a habit of panic attacks in tests and exams - kinda hampers one's marks when exams make up 70% of one's semester grade.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 21:12

    Ah. I see your point - research projects never turn out how one would like them! I'm not in post-grad because I have a habit of panic attacks in tests and exams - kinda hampers one's marks when exams make up 70% of one's semester grade.

    My dissertation would have turned out better had it not spent 10 of the 12 weeks we were allowed for it stuck in committee.

    I think you might have preferred my degree because no module had more than 40% exam work, which I found annoying because I prefer exams to coursework, and much of the coursework was groupwork. One memorable coursework item, accounting for 60% of a module that thankfully didn't count towards degree classification (only year completion credits) had a computer randomly generate groups. Which would have been great had it calculated for over half my class dropping out during the course of the module and half of the rest getting stuck into their "Drunken Studies" minor...

  • Bridget24/05/2011 at 21:25

    I think you might have preferred my degree because no module had more than 40% exam work, which I found annoying because I prefer exams to coursework, and much of the coursework was groupwork. One memorable coursework item, accounting for 60% of a module that thankfully didn't count towards degree classification (only year completion credits) had a computer randomly generate groups. Which would have been great had it calculated for over half my class dropping out during the course of the module and half of the rest getting stuck into their "Drunken Studies" minor...

    Hmm, we had more than a few class members majoring in Drunken Studies...a few were into more botannical options, but we were studying botany, so couldn't hold it against them. I loved my uni, and would go back there in a heartbeat...but semester marks shouldn't rest on a single three-hour period in which you can be asked anything from 104 hours of teaching time. Thankfully, we got to choose our own groups most of the time :)

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 21:26

    a few were into more botannical options, but we were studying botany, so couldn't hold it against them.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 21:29

    but semester marks shouldn't rest on a single three-hour period in which you can be asked anything from 104 hours of teaching time. Thankfully, we got to choose our own groups most of the time :)

    I think there should be a choice in the matter. That a student should, within reason for the subject matter and the ability of the institution to assess, be able to pick any assessment method that demonstrates that they learned what content of the module to the appropriate standard. That way everyone gets assessed on what they learned and not on how well they learned some predetermined assessment method (unless of course the assessment method is legitimately part of the content for that course - it would be hard to justify an assessment for a dissertation preparation module that didn't involve dissertation preparation, for example).

  • Maverick24/05/2011 at 21:34

    I think there should be a choice in the matter. That a student should, within reason for the subject matter and the ability of the institution to assess, be able to pick any assessment method that demonstrates that they learned what content of the module to the appropriate standard. That way everyone gets assessed on what they learned and not on how well they learned some predetermined assessment method (unless of course the assessment method is legitimately part of the content for that course - it would be hard to justify an assessment for a dissertation preparation module that didn't involve dissertation preparation, for example).

    I was far better at coursework than at exams. The problem is you get penalised in group projects because the group benefits from that while you're on your own in the exam

  • Bridget24/05/2011 at 21:37

    (What? My alma mater is in a part of South Africa affectionately referred to as the Cape of Good Dope, about 100kms from prime growing terroir. It's inevitable that people do it.)

    I think there should be a choice in the matter. That a student should, within reason for the subject matter and the ability of the institution to assess, be able to pick any assessment method that demonstrates that they learned what content of the module to the appropriate standard. That way everyone gets assessed on what they learned and not on how well they learned some predetermined assessment method

    Or the method of examination. If I could've chosen oral exams rather than written, I would've done so much better because I blurb more coherently under pressure when speaking.

    I was far better at coursework than at exams. The problem is you get penalised in group projects because the group benefits from that while you're on your own in the exam

    If one chooses one's group-mates, it's not really a problem. I had a regular group-mate who had the attention span of a gnat, so her contribution consisted largely of a steady stream of tea and creative ideas. She did work, just not in the same way as the rest of us.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 21:37

    I was far better at coursework than at exams. The problem is you get penalised in group projects because the group benefits from that while you're on your own in the exam

    I'd agree with that. The trouble was that my uni insisted that groupwork was a key part of what we needed to learn on our course and wrote assessments accordingly.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 21:41

    Or the method of examination. If I could've chosen oral exams rather than written, I would've done so much better because I blurb more coherently under pressure when speaking.

    Ironically at PhD level an oral exam is frequently part of the assessment (you are quizzed intensely on your thesis and successful verbal defence is necessary to getting the doctorate in that style of PhD).

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 21:43

    In other news, the employment assistance office cancelled its latest appointment with me. Pending clash with F1 practise averted, but I won't get to see them for another fortnight because they're busy...

  • Bridget24/05/2011 at 21:46

    Ironically at PhD level an oral exam is frequently part of the assessment (you are quizzed intensely on your thesis and successful verbal defence is necessary to getting the doctorate in that style of PhD).

    I know Cambridge had good reasons, all the way back in 1792 (according to Stephen Fry), for inventing written exams, but oral ones are far more realistic to professional life. A post-doc I dated had to defend his thesis against a Nobel prizewinner...bet he wished he'd had some practice in oral exams *then*, right?

    In other news, the employment assistance office cancelled its latest appointment with me. Pending clash with F1 practise averted, but I won't get to see them for another fortnight because they're busy...

    Oh, those nasty people. I had to deal with them last time I was in the UK - they changed my appointment three times! It took me months to sort my work papers out.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 21:49

    I know Cambridge had good reasons, all the way back in 1792 (according to Stephen Fry), for inventing written exams, but oral ones are far more realistic to professional life. A post-doc I dated had to defend his thesis against a Nobel prizewinner...bet he wished he'd had some practice in oral exams *then*, right?

    Considering that nearly every boss I've had disliked people talking sense, written exams have been far more use to me in work. At least with those I got practise writing quickly, which is a lot more use than an ability to persuade that I have so far never been allowed to use in the workplace.

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 21:51

    Oh, those nasty people. I had to deal with them last time I was in the UK - they changed my appointment three times! It took me months to sort my work papers out.

    Is that the employment assistance place or the JobCentre (I have separate appointment arrangements with both?)

  • Pat W24/05/2011 at 22:24

    Hello. I am currently stuffing my face with a burger and chips because I'm rather hungry. :) My sister has started street dancing and had her first performance tonight as part of a local arts group thing, went along for support... didn't realise it would be on for over two hours until I got there, but they were all very good, even the little 6 year olds. :)

  • Alianora La Canta24/05/2011 at 22:26

    Hello. I am currently stuffing my face with a burger and chips because I'm rather hungry. :)

    Yum :)

  • Lukeh24/05/2011 at 22:51

    Manic Street Preachers PING - http://toata.co.uk/index.php/2011/05/194-a-manic-night-out/

  • Pat W24/05/2011 at 23:12

    We might have missed a milestone.

    sidepodcast passed 1 million published comments during the spanish grand prix weekend. #f1 #kindaawesome

    D'oh.

    Awesome, congrats :)