Following on from yesterday's discovery of what kind of holiday it was, today I can tell you it is St George's Day. It's not a bank holiday, though, so it's off to work as normal for us at Sidepodcast Towers. Anyway, here's some F1 stuff to discuss:

  • Supposedly, AUTOSPORT has found that Red Bull are looking into maybe switching engine supplier next year. The article suggests reading the magazine for more information, but from the quotes they've published on the site, the only hint that Horner is looking at Mercedes is he referenced Brawn's ability to switch at the last minute.
  • Force India will be bringing lots of new parts to Bahrain, including a new floor and the ever-popular rear diffuser. The front wing and sidepods will also get some slight revisions, so will we see improved performance in the desert?
  • Finally, am slowly catching up with my feed reader, and discovered Dan Brunell's latest Power Rankings on his Racing Eagles blog. Definitely worth a good look, and there's even a little joke at the bottom.

That'll do it for now. Don't forget there's plenty of podcasting goodness been released this week to keep you busy: F1 Debrief, Sidepodchat, Sidepodpanel. While you catch up with those, I'll see you in the comments.

1126 responses

  • me22/04/2009 at 23:16

    we have a new person in the top 5 most talkative list:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/journeyer-top5-most-talkative-png

  • Lukeh22/04/2009 at 23:18

    we have a new person in the top 5 most talkative list:

    go journeyer! again unsure how i'm in 3rd...

  • Jeremy22/04/2009 at 23:19

    Following on from yesterday’s discovery of what kind of holiday it was, today I can tell you it is St George’s Day. It’s not a bank holiday, though, so it’s off to work as normal for us at Sidepodcast Towers.

    A friend of mine works at the St George Bank in Sydney. When Zoe told me a few days ago that St George's Day was coming up, I sent a text to my friend asking if she had the day off.

    She didn't think it was funny either! :D

  • me22/04/2009 at 23:20

    go journeyer! again unsure how i’m in 3rd…

    reply -> type -> post

  • Jeremy22/04/2009 at 23:21

    go journeyer! again unsure how i’m in 3rd…

    comments like this one?

  • Jeremy22/04/2009 at 23:24

    Commenting in the normal blog post is slightly broken for me in Safari 4 Beta on Mac. When I select text and hit the quote button, the tags appear before the quoted text and I have to manually move the "" tag to the end of the quote.

    I hope that makes sense and I'm not pointing out something that has already been mentioned.

  • Lukeh22/04/2009 at 23:25

    reply -> type -> post

    so thats how you do it... im impressed.

  • me22/04/2009 at 23:25

    I hope that makes sense and I’m not pointing out something that has already been mentioned.

    it does, and i can repeat it, cheers. hope it's a beta bug, but will investigate.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/04/2009 at 23:51

    Note to everyone here who's looking to be at Silverstone this year - I MIGHT be there on Friday if Dad can get tickets from his mate from Santander. So if any of you guys are planning to go on Friday, I might see you there. ;)

  • the Blue Orange Lion22/04/2009 at 23:52

    Yeah, I've been playing with weblinks here and discovered myself being listed in my old myspace disguise. Me, you gotta put the new link there, the one that appears when you click on my name (I can't paste it here because the post is likely to end up in moderation). I think I'm no longer "vocal" but rather "moody" and into photography and F1-related mad art, so to speak. Too lazy to type these days, use words or think. Pictures speak louder than words. Something like "the Wombat of the Blue Orange Lion - brought to you by the ever moody Blue Orange Lion, his amazing Wombat & (the) Dog" will please the BOL clan. Sounds like Sgt. Pepper's LHCB though...

  • chris evans22/04/2009 at 23:54

    Note to everyone here who’s looking to be at Silverstone this year - I MIGHT be there on Friday if Dad can get tickets from his mate from Santander. So if any of you guys are planning to go on Friday, I might see you there. ;)

    I've got a weekend ticket, hope you can make it!

  • me23/04/2009 at 00:05

    Yeah, I’ve been playing with weblinks here and discovered myself being listed in my old myspace disguise.

    consider it done sir. great description too!

    if anyone else spots errors/omissions on the links page, please do yell.

  • Dan Brunell23/04/2009 at 00:11

    Finally, am slowly catching up with my feed reader, and discovered Dan Brunell’s latest Power Rankings on his Racing Eagles blog. Definitely worth a good look, and there’s even a little joke at the bottom.

    Thanks. I would like to enter my Williams' song into the SidepodIdol contest.

    Supposedly, AUTOSPORT has found that Red Bull are looking into maybe switching engine supplier next year. The article suggests reading the magazine for more information, but from the quotes they’ve published on the site, the only hint that Horner is looking at Mercedes is he referenced Brawn’s ability to switch at the last minute.

    I thought there was a rule which stated a manufacturer can only supply two teams on the grid. If that is true then it breaks down like this next year:

    Mercedes: McLaren - Force India

    Toyota: Toyota - Williams

    Ferrari: Ferrari - Toro Rosso

    Renault: Renault - ?????

    BMW: BMW Sauber - ?????

    The standard FIA-Cosworth: ????? - ?????

    Unknown (if the story is to believed): Red Bull, BrawnGP, USGPE

    I makes me beg the following three questions:

    1: Would Red Bull work with BMW? That engine deal would make a fair amount of sense to me.

    2: Next year, would Brawn get the special premission to use Mercedes engines again? I get the feeling that people like Flavio the Loudmouth would try to game it so they would get stuck with the Cosworth. Would Renault give a engine deal to Brawn?

    3: I've always thought that the Cosworth options was a way of leverage for USGPE againist the other engine manufactures. However, seeing how this is working out, they may not have a choice. Ehhh. This will not go well.

  • Dan Brunell23/04/2009 at 00:14

    I makes me beg the following three questions:

    Actually, I would add a question number four.

    4: If Red Bull want to cut costs, would they force Toro Rosso to a Cosworth engine and take over the Ferrari deal themselves?

  • me23/04/2009 at 00:27

    Thanks. I would like to enter my Williams’ song into the SidepodIdol contest.

    +44 121 28 87225

    ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 02:07

    just for the record... it was chris' question.

    *runs*

  • Dan Brunell23/04/2009 at 02:15

    just for the record… it was chris’ question.

    *runs*

    Hell has no fury like James Allen' scorn...

    Be afraid Sidepodcast... be very afraid...

  • me23/04/2009 at 02:16

    Be afraid Sidepodcast… be very afraid…

    *can't hear you, still running*

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 04:13

    Be afraid Sidepodcast… be very afraid…

    *can’t hear you, still running*

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/get-me-out-of-here-aif

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 04:18

    Hell has no fury like James Allen scorn…

    Be afraid Sidepodcast… be very afraid…

    Mr Allen, if you're reading - less talking, more writing please!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 05:49

    we have a new person in the top 5 most talkative list:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/journeyer-top5-most-talkative-png

    P5, baby! Yeaaaaaah! Hahahahahahahaha!

    Now if only I could show up during the live podcasts, I can make a bid for P1. :D

    Nice article by Dan, by the way. Loved it a lot. :)

    I thought there was a rule which stated a manufacturer can only supply two teams on the grid.

    The previous rule was that a manufacturer could only supply one other team. Ferrari then asked for special dispensation to supply two teams. Mercedes have asked for, and been granted, the same dispensation.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 05:55

    First comment of the day duly gets moderated. ;)

    1: Would Red Bull work with BMW? That engine deal would make a fair amount of sense to me.

    But BMW has never shown any intention or desire of supplying their engines to another team. No idea why, but that's always been the case.

    2: Next year, would Brawn get the special premission to use Mercedes engines again? I get the feeling that people like Flavio the Loudmouth would try to game it so they would get stuck with the Cosworth. Would Renault give a engine deal to Brawn?

    Brawn and Mercedes' deal is for more than a year - 2 or 3 years, I think. So there's nothing Flavio or anyone else can do about it. Besides, why would Mercedes let go of a winning outfit?

    3: I’ve always thought that the Cosworth options was a way of leverage for USGPE againist the other engine manufactures. However, seeing how this is working out, they may not have a choice. Ehhh. This will not go well.

    Team USF1GPE have an array of concerns with picking up a Cossie.

    a. They can't have that engine all to themselves - it's the FIA who set up the Cossie deal. Which leads to...

    b. Lola - if they enter F1, I'm 90% sure they'll use a Cossie engine.

    c. As Steven Roy (or was it someone else?) mentioned yesterday, the Cosworth employees are now in other engine companies. Who will develop those engines during the course of a season? Williams struggled with this when they ran Cosworths in 2006.

    4: If Red Bull want to cut costs, would they force Toro Rosso to a Cosworth engine and take over the Ferrari deal themselves?

    But didn't RBR move their Ferrari deal to STR so that they could get the Renault? Besides, Newey must be loving that Renault lump right now - he's been able to optimize his design around it, so there's no way he's letting that go.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 05:59

    *runs*

    hehe :D

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 05:59

    *runs*

    Let's hope he has as good a sense of humor as David Tremayne

  • Gavin+Brown+(RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 06:00

    First comment of the day duly gets moderated. ;)

    Welcome to Sidepodcast ;)

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:02

    First comment of the day duly gets moderated. ;)

    And nobody around to unmoderate it ;)

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:03

    Morning all... Glad you went in yesterday Jackie :)

    Liked the pictures.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:05

    Liked the pictures.

    Morning Alex, thanks .. It was a good idea to go in

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:06

    How did I manage to put my own sentence I was typing, in a quote box?

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:07

    How did I manage to put my own sentence I was typing, in a quote box?

    It's surprisingly easy to do..

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 06:08

    How did I manage to put my own sentence I was typing, in a quote box?

    It’s surprisingly easy to do..

    IJust ask Steven Roy ;)

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:08

    It’s surprisingly easy to do..

    :D

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:08

    But didn’t RBR move their Ferrari deal to STR so that they could get the Renault? Besides, Newey must be loving that Renault lump right now - he’s been able to optimize his design around it, so there’s no way he’s letting that go.

    That's the bit I can't understand. He pushed massively for the Renaults. Not just because they were fast but because he preferred their shape to Ferrari's. I can't see how that would have changed.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:10

    That’s the bit I can’t understand. He pushed massively for the Renaults. Not just because they were fast but because he preferred their shape to Ferrari’s. I can’t see how that would have changed.

    Oh gosh I really am dumb, I though all engines were of a fairly standard shape

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 06:12

    But didn’t RBR move their Ferrari deal to STR so that they could get the Renault? Besides, Newey must be loving that Renault lump right now - he’s been able to optimize his design around it, so there’s no way he’s letting that go.

    It was apparently because "No customer Ferrari engine had ever won a race". D'oh!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 06:13

    Oh gosh I really am dumb, I though all engines were of a fairly standard shape

    Not exactly. They may not be as radically different to each other as before (with varying layouts, cylinder angles, and number of cylinders), but they still differ in such areas as weight distribution.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:14

    Philosophical question, why is a works engine called a works engine .. is it because it works better?

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:14

    Not exactly. They may not be as radically different to each other as before (with varying layouts, cylinder angles, and number of cylinders), but they still differ in such areas as weight distribution.

    Good point

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:18

    Not exactly. They may not be as radically different to each other as before (with varying layouts, cylinder angles, and number of cylinders), but they still differ in such areas as weight distribution.

    And heat distribution. Say for example the Ferrari engine got hotter at the top and the Renault hotter at the back. It might change what you literally put them next to. I seem to remember them saying something about this was important to them too in the design phase.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 06:19

    Philosophical question, why is a works engine called a works engine .. is it because it works better?

    Firstly, you are right to assume all engines are the same shape as these days they do not differ so greatly, but there are small differences.

    Secondly, a works engine is defined as the latest and greatest spec from the factory, whilst a customer engine tends to be an older version of it. What makes a mockery of the engine freeze is the fact that there should be no difference in performance if the specs were frozen, but clearly there is because some engines were developed a bit (remember Renault's troubles last year?)

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:27

    I'd best get back on the daily :D

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:28

    I’d best get back on the daily :D

    Good thinking we don't want to get Mr C angry!

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:29

    Good thinking we don’t want to get Mr C angry!

    Took me a minute to get the joke .. try saying the last line out loud :D

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:30

    Took me a minute to get the joke .. try saying the last line out loud :D

    Yes I should have mentioned it. Both have the same property to them I guess, they need to be out loud really.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:31

    Hmm, well what am I going to do with myself today .. apart from increase my comment count on SPC

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 06:33

    Secondly, a works engine is defined as the latest and greatest spec from the factory, whilst a customer engine tends to be an older version of it. What makes a mockery of the engine freeze is the fact that there should be no difference in performance if the specs were frozen, but clearly there is because some engines were developed a bit (remember Renault’s troubles last year?)

    But most engines are of the same spec now anyway - I know Ferrari and STR have the same spec of engine, as do Williams and Toyota, Renault and RBR, and McLaren, Brawn, and FI.

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:33

    Hmm, well what am I going to do with myself today .. apart from increase my comment count on SPC

    It is a nice day out there (or at least it is here).

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 06:34

    Hmm, well what am I going to do with myself today .. apart from increase my comment count on SPC

    :D I'm waiting for the formula1.com video - if memory serves me right, it should be coming out sometime today. :)

    Maybe you should also try looking for F1 channels on JTV and watch some old races. ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 06:34

    But most engines are of the same spec now anyway - I know Ferrari and STR have the same spec of engine, as do Williams and Toyota, Renault and RBR, and McLaren, Brawn, and FI.

    What if one of the customer engines offered was a 2007 model for example? That would be down on power wouldn't it?

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:34

    It is a nice day out there (or at least it is here).

    I think it will be here as well .. or I hope so. I'm getting double glazing put into house today so it'll be blooming cold otherwise

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:36

    I think it will be here as well .. or I hope so. I’m getting double glazing put into house today so it’ll be blooming cold otherwise

    Which reminds me, I'd best go get dressed .. don't want to be running around in my pj's when the workmen get here

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 06:37

    BTW, has this been mentioned?

    Gascoyne applies for job at Ferrari

    Also, Jackie, did you have a quiz last night? ;)

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:38

    Which reminds me, I’d best go get dressed .. don’t want to be running around in my pj’s when the workmen get here

    What? I am commenting here in suit and tie and I'm in my bedroom! ;)

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:39

    BTW, has this been mentioned?

    Not that he had applied for a Ferrari job as far as I know.

    And yup .. there was a quiz, questions (and hidden answers) here http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=879

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 06:40

    What if one of the customer engines offered was a 2007 model for example? That would be down on power wouldn’t it?

    All engine specs being used in the 2009 championship have to have been frozen at the end of the 2007 championship. Renault is the only exception to this rule, but I believe the rules require them to supply the same lump to RBR.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:40

    What? I am commenting here in suit and tie and I’m in my bedroom! ;)

    well now that I'm a lady of leisure ;)

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:42

    BTW, has this been mentioned?

    How do you do that linky thing on here without writing the full link?

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:45

    How do you do that linky thing on here without writing the full link?

    This should work:

    <a href="sofaf1.com">The Sofa F1 website</a>

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 06:45

    What if one of the customer engines offered was a 2007 model for example? That would be down on power wouldn’t it?

    All engine specs being used in the 2009 championship have to have been frozen at the end of the 2007 championship. Renault is the only exception to this rule, but I believe the rules require them to supply the same lump to RBR.

    OK, but why were Force India complaining about their Ferrari engines being a bit duff and why did STR demand a better engine from Ferrari as well? You are right by saying that the engines were frozen at the end of 2007, but the engines continued to be developed (which is why Renault were allowed to catch up) and clearly not all customer engines are at the same spec.

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:45

    except... Sorry you should put http:// in there other wise it won't work.

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:46

    Now the next logical question is how can you write the thing without it turning into a link... Well that's even harder to show...

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 06:48

    Looking at the quiz, it's a shame I missed it. Looks like I would've been contending for the win if I were around. ;)

    Oh well... :D

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:48

    <a href=”sofaf1.com”>The Sofa F1 website</a>

    Thanks Alex

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:48

    Now the next logical question is how can you write the thing without it turning into a link… Well that’s even harder to show…

    Ah yes, I've kinda given up on that one

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:50

    Oh well… :D

    How far behind time wise are you with UK time Journeyer .. maybe we could ask Jolly to do the occassional early one

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 06:50

    How do you do that linky thing on here without writing the full link?

    Use the Link button. ;)

    OK, but why were Force India complaining about their Ferrari engines being a bit duff and why did STR demand a better engine from Ferrari as well? You are right by saying that the engines were frozen at the end of 2007, but the engines continued to be developed (which is why Renault were allowed to catch up) and clearly not all customer engines are at the same spec.

    Ahhh, I didn't know about that. Looks like Ferrari used the loophole in the regs about engine tuning for safety. But have we heard any such complaints about other manufacturers?

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:52

    Use the Link button. ;)

    I had actually tried that and hey presto I got the same long link I would've got just by pasting. What I didn't know was the bit at the end

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 06:54

    How far behind time wise are you with UK time Journeyer .. maybe we could ask Jolly to do the occassional early one

    I'm 7 hours AHEAD. So your quizzes are at 3:30 AM my time. The only reasons I was able to join in the past were that either Thursday was a holiday, or I was working the North American shift. :D

    If Jolly moved it to something like... 5 PM your time (which would be midnight my time), that would be awesome! :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 06:55

    Ahhh, I didn’t know about that. Looks like Ferrari used the loophole in the regs about engine tuning for safety. But have we heard any such complaints about other manufacturers?

    Well Flav complained that the others had exploited this loophole and Renault hadn't ... so yeah.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 06:56

    If Jolly moved it to something like… 5 PM your time (which would be midnight my time), that would be awesome! :)

    3.30 am omg! .. I'll see what I can do

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 06:59

    I did think that something said by a commenter, Andy Fov, on James Allen's blog was very very true:

    “And the class of Brawn and Newey is permanent. All this talk of “a new order in F1?, there’s not. It was a case of Brawn Vs Newey today. It might as well have been 1998.”

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 07:03

    3.30 am omg! .. I’ll see what I can do

    Thanks Jackie, much appreciated. ;)

    “And the class of Brawn and Newey is permanent. All this talk of “a new order in F1?, there’s not. It was a case of Brawn Vs Newey today. It might as well have been 1998.”

    But there's a fundamental difference - in the past, Brawn and Newey were with the big teams, Ferrari and McLaren. Now those 2 teams have let them go, feeling that their structure is bigger than these 2 people. But with the new regs, their structure has come back to bite them, while Brawn and Newey are still working their magic with formerly midfield teams that were willing to take a chance.

    And look at where Brawn and Red Bull are now...

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 07:04

    Hvae to go, workmen arrived .. may catch up with you all later ;)

  • Sean Golding23/04/2009 at 07:04

    Good afternoon everybody. I trust we are all well.

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 07:05

    And look at where Brawn and Red Bull are now…

    Well they weren't always. Brawn was at Benetton for example and then got taken to a big team.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 07:13

    Well they weren’t always. Brawn was at Benetton for example and then got taken to a big team.

    True - and he also made Benetton a leading team. When he left just a year after Michael Schumacher, they began a slow decline that only ended with the arrival of Renault money for 2002, and the ascendancy of Pat Symonds and Fernando Alonso.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 07:14

    Good afternoon everybody. I trust we are all well.

    Hey Sean! Good morning to ya! ;)

  • Sean Golding23/04/2009 at 07:15

    Hey Sean! Good morning to ya! ;)

    It's afternoon for you too isn't it?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 07:20

    It’s afternoon for you too isn’t it?

    Oops. You're right! Hehe. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 07:39

    It’s afternoon for you too isn’t it?

    Oops. You’re right! Hehe. :D

    As a universal gesture, happy earth revolution to all!

  • F1Wolf23/04/2009 at 07:43

    semi serious good morning article:

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/dangerous-donkeys-and-other-stories/

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 07:49

    As a universal gesture, happy earth revolution to all!

    Earth Day was yesterday. :P

    You could've just said, "Good day!" :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 07:49

    As a universal gesture, happy earth revolution to all!

    Earth Day was yesterday. :P

    You could’ve just said, “Good day!” :D

    :-P

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 07:49

    You could’ve just said, “Good day!” :D

    I always settle for "Hi." :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 07:51

    You could’ve just said, “Good day!” :D

    I always settle for “Hi.” :)

    I think mine was how Ron Dennis must say good morning?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 08:00

    I think mine was how Ron Dennis must say good morning?

    :D Hehe. How's everyone feeling today?

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 08:01

    Bob has emailed me this link which is really... a bit weird.

    "Alistair Gibson spent 22 years in Formula 1 paddocks as a mechanic with teams like Benetton and BAR Honda. With decades of carbon fiber and shiny bits swimming in his head, it probably shouldn't come as a complete surprise that after leaving pit lane he has begun fabricating motorsports-influenced sculptures of fish."

    Here's one http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/brown-trout-jpg

    It maybe shouldn't come as a surprise, but it is!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 08:01

    I think mine was how Ron Dennis must say good morning?

    :D Hehe. How’s everyone feeling today?

    Tired. Stayed up too late finishing my guest post and I have no cans left of non-specified Energy Drink :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 08:02

    Bob has emailed me this link which is really… a bit weird.

    “Alistair Gibson spent 22 years in Formula 1 paddocks as a mechanic with teams like Benetton and BAR Honda. With decades of carbon fiber and shiny bits swimming in his head, it probably shouldn’t come as a complete surprise that after leaving pit lane he has begun fabricating motorsports-influenced sculptures of fish.”

    Here’s one http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/brown-trout-jpg

    It maybe shouldn’t come as a surprise, but it is!

    Yay Autoblog. How does one cure and harden the fibre without a large autoclave? A kiln? Chemicals?

  • Sean Golding23/04/2009 at 08:07

    Bob has emailed me this link which is really… a bit weird.

    As peculiar as that is, I think I want one.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 08:09

    Yay Autoblog. How does one cure and harden the fibre without a large autoclave? A kiln? Chemicals?

    Wasn't he the lollipop man at one point? I remember because I think it was his error when he lifted the lollipop too early at Jenson's stop in San Marino 2006 - which duly wrecked their fuel rig.

    Rather interesting... pastime, though. I wonder if fisherman Ross gave him any ideas. ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 08:10

    Bob has emailed me this link which is really… a bit weird.

    As peculiar as that is, I think I want one.

    I saw a model of a Ferrari F430 in the Ferrari store that was made from the same materials as the real car - I was assured that included the carbon fibre. Yours for a cool £2750!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 08:18

    I saw a model of a Ferrari F430 in the Ferrari store that was made from the same materials as the real car - I was assured that included the carbon fibre. Yours for a cool £2750!

    You're better off buying a proper car, then. :P

  • Sean Golding23/04/2009 at 08:22

    You’re better off buying a proper car, then. :P

    Perhaps, but where else can you get a Ferrari for under 3000 pounds. ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 08:22

    CODEMASTERS F1 GAME DETAILS!!!!!! :D

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74706

  • Sean Golding23/04/2009 at 08:23

    CODEMASTERS F1 GAME DETAILS!!!!!! :D

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74706

    Yay!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 08:24

    What I wanna know is - is that screenshot of the PSP version? Or just a random shot of an F1 2009 mod for something?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 08:24

    CODEMASTERS F1 GAME DETAILS!!!!!! :D

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74706

    Yay!

    The Wii version will be pants, if Ferrari Challenge is anything to go by :(

    I will wait for the PC version so I can race with my Logitech G25. It's great to see a new racing game for the PC - the consoles are killing off PC's now :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 08:25

    What I wanna know is - is that screenshot of the PSP version? Or just a random shot of an F1 2009 mod for something?

    The graphics didn't look good did they?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 08:26

    The graphics didn’t look good did they?

    Mmm, not exactly. Looks more like a DS version or something, actually.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 08:26

    CODEMASTERS F1 GAME DETAILS!!!!!!

    My PSP is about to get used again... :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 08:27

    Just read properly that we console users don't get the game until 2010! BOOOO! :(

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 08:27

    Mmm, not exactly. Looks more like a DS version or something, actually.

    It must be a chunky PSP version. ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 08:28

    Just read properly that we console users don’t get the game until 2010! BOOOO! :(

    You know what, better to wait for it to be ready than get a rushed version full of bugs mate. Trust me on this!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 08:31

    You know what, better to wait for it to be ready than get a rushed version full of bugs mate. Trust me on this!

    But I want F1 2009, not 2010 (well, not at the moment) on the 360. And I don't have a PSP or Wii :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 08:36

    You know what, better to wait for it to be ready than get a rushed version full of bugs mate. Trust me on this!

    But I want F1 2009, not 2010 (well, not at the moment) on the 360. And I don’t have a PSP or Wii :(

    I just want F1. I will wait, because I would hate another game as bad as Lock On :(

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 08:39

    But I want F1 2009, not 2010 (well, not at the moment) on the 360. And I don’t have a PSP or Wii

    Lucky me I have a PSP, then. ;) But I think the extra year is worth the wait, especially if you get HD graphics. Would be cool too if we had a carset where Brawn was carrying car numbers 1 and 2. :D Assuming they win the championship, of course.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 08:41

    Lucky me I have a PSP, then. But I think the extra year is worth the wait, especially if you get HD graphics. Would be cool too if we had a carset where Brawn was carrying car numbers 1 and 2. Assuming they win the championship, of course.

    I suppose. But they better bring out a download of the 2009 cars to drive as well.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 08:44

    Lucky me I have a PSP, then. But I think the extra year is worth the wait, especially if you get HD graphics. Would be cool too if we had a carset where Brawn was carrying car numbers 1 and 2. Assuming they win the championship, of course.

    I suppose. But they better bring out a download of the 2009 cars to drive as well.

    I think the game will be for 2009, so they can make a 2010 version later in the year - apparently they will be releasing a game every year...

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 09:00

    The graphics didn’t look good did they?

    That's normal PSP or Wii graphics, so it's no real shock. Plus it has to be one or the other if the game's coming out this year on them two consoles and none of the proper gaming consoles.

    Still, awesome news. Bit of a shame we'll have to wait longer for a 360/PS3 version but it'll be worth it :)

  • Amy23/04/2009 at 09:14

    i am bored at work, have read almost every f1 news article from 2000 and 2001. Now i am reading a column dated 1 July 2001 entitled "ask jonathan legard". someone save me

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 09:15

    i am bored at work, have read almost every f1 news article from 2000 and 2001. Now i am reading a column dated 1 July 2001 entitled “ask jonathan legard”. someone save me

    Ah-ha! What insights did he have to share back then?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:17

    First USF1, then Lola, now Prodrive for 2010?!

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74707

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 09:18

    First USF1, then Lola, now Prodrive for 2010?!

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74707

    He did say in the march issue of CAR that he was keen to bring Prodrive to F1 if a budget cap was put in place. Sounds good to me!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:18

    He did say in the march issue of CAR that he was keen to bring Prodrive to F1 if a budget cap was put in place. Sounds good to me!

    So I take it we have our 3 new teams for 2010 now?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 09:21

    He did say in the march issue of CAR that he was keen to bring Prodrive to F1 if a budget cap was put in place. Sounds good to me!

    So I take it we have our 3 new teams for 2010 now?

    Yep - no surprises really eh? Who else could do the job? Panoz? Dallara?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:21

    This part just caught my eye:

    "Richards said his team was one of the interested parties in talks with engine supplier Cosworth, but he revealed he is also in discussions with another manufacturer currently competing F1.

    "We are in discussion with one of the current engine suppliers, as well as Cosworth," he said. "They are developing plans for a customer Formula 1 engine which offers the prospect of a return to the good old days when you could bolt in a customer DFV off the shelf and win races."

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:28

    My guess is that Richards saw Lola's announcement yesterday and thought "Right, two can play at that game" ;)

  • Amy23/04/2009 at 09:29

    he thought ralf winning at imola might be the start of a williams renaissance. And that DC would be world champ. His column on whether mika will come back and how kimi wkl fit in at mclaren is great. Hindsight makes everyone look stupid

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 09:30

    he thought ralf winning at imola might be the start of a williams renaissance. And that DC would be world champ. His column on whether mika will come back and how kimi wkl fit in at mclaren is great. Hindsight makes everyone look stupid

    Some more so than others ;)

  • littlepurplegoth23/04/2009 at 09:43

    4: If Red Bull want to cut costs, would they force Toro Rosso to a Cosworth engine and take over the Ferrari deal themselves?

    In this event I'd suspect that a way around the 'two seperate teams' thing would be found (as in, 'oh, the *racing* teams are seperate, but the engines are supplied to xxx the parent company/the owner so actually only one supplier/administration is involved you know ;-) ' ) And as examples of the sort of small owner-operated teams that the FIA is supposed to be pushing for more of then something would be worked out...

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 09:45

    13 teams = 26 cars, if Prodrive really want in. Any more than that and we'd need Friday pre-qualifying!

    That said, Max's Cosworth deal now really looks good. The more teams participate, the cheaper the engines will cost.

  • littlepurplegoth23/04/2009 at 09:46

    'Works' is the equivalent of buying a from a designers 'off the peg' or 'diffusion' line. You are still getting a custom build, but its from a defined set of choices/perameters rather than being couture....

    LPG who wonders if its sad to think of F1 cars as the couture of the racing world? Except that they aren't really, that would be the morgans....

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:46

    13 teams = 26 cars, if Prodrive really want in. Any more than that and we’d need Friday pre-qualifying!

    YES PLEEEEASE! :D Bringing pre-qualifying back would be 5 pints of awesome!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:47

    That said, Max’s Cosworth deal now really looks good. The more teams participate, the cheaper the engines will cost.

    Kinda like "Buy in bulk and you get a discount" ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 09:48

    13 teams = 26 cars, if Prodrive really want in. Any more than that and we’d need Friday pre-qualifying!

    That said, Max’s Cosworth deal now really looks good. The more teams participate, the cheaper the engines will cost.

    Bernie wants more than 26 cars and pre-qualifying to return...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 09:48

    That said, Max’s Cosworth deal now really looks good. The more teams participate, the cheaper the engines will cost.

    Kinda like “Buy in bulk and you get a discount” ;)

    You get reduced horsepower as well as cost!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:50

    Bernie wants more than 26 cars and pre-qualifying to return…

    More of a show for the fans. Would that mean a 4 day race weekend? Pre-qualifying always took place on Thursday, didn't it? Either that or Friday morning.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:51

    More of a show for the fans. Would that mean a 4 day race weekend? Pre-qualifying always took place on Thursday, didn’t it? Either that or Friday morning.

    Just checked on this article about pre-qualifying:

    http://forix.autosport.com/8w/pq89.html

    Yup, it was Thursday.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 09:52

    Bernie wants more than 26 cars and pre-qualifying to return…

    More of a show for the fans. Would that mean a 4 day race weekend? Pre-qualifying always took place on Thursday, didn’t it? Either that or Friday morning.

    I can't remember as BBC never showed pre-quallies AFAIK :( I would love to see qualifying that is do or die!

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 09:52

    Bernie wants more than 26 cars and pre-qualifying to return…

    Isn't it more wasteful to have all these teams ready to go and then not see them race, though?

    It doesn't seem very green to me to find a couple of teams have spent time, money and energy, and they are not allowed to get out on track through the whole weekend.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 09:53

    Goodness - slick tyres, no TC and now talks of 26 car grids and pre-qualifying returning. The early '90s all over again! :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 09:56

    More of a show for the fans. Would that mean a 4 day race weekend? Pre-qualifying always took place on Thursday, didn’t it? Either that or Friday morning.

    It took place on Friday morning.

    But the way I see it, it'll probably be on Friday afternoon, 2 PM local time. It would be between FP1 and FP2.

    It probably won't be on TV, but a friendly time might mean more people pressing the red button.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 10:00

    Isn’t it more wasteful to have all these teams ready to go and then not see them race, though?

    It doesn’t seem very green to me to find a couple of teams have spent time, money and energy, and they are not allowed to get out on track through the whole weekend.

    Ah, Christine, you should really see how it was in the late 1980s - pre-qualifying was heart-in-mouth stuff, especially for the teams who had to go through it!

    Thanks for the correction on the schedule, BTW. :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 10:01

    Ah, Christine, you should really see how it was in the late 1980s - pre-qualifying was heart-in-mouth stuff, especially for the teams who had to go through it!

    Monaco 1989 - 39 cars turned up to pre-qualify. 'Nuff said.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 10:02

    Ah, Christine, you should really see how it was in the late 1980s - pre-qualifying was heart-in-mouth stuff, especially for the teams who had to go through it!

    Of course, I'm sure it would be brilliant, but Max is pushing for F1 to be less wasteful, and turning away perfectly good teams doesn't seem like it would fit with that plan.

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 10:21

    Morning all! just........

    Can I pick everyone's brains? I remember that some time ago, someone had files from the old telly series "A Season with McLaren" .......... I cant for the life of me remember when or where they were though, I think it was on the drop.io thingy.

    I figured I might try to watch them now I am off today and tomorrow (just in time for the rain..)

    And cant wait for a more civilized time for the race and practices tomorrow! (apologies for peeps around the world :( )

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 10:27

    Ooh, new version of Spotify already.

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 10:35

    I did stick them on Drop.io I think

    No idea when though....

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 10:39

    I figured I might try to watch them now I am off today and tomorrow (just in time for the rain..)

    Your best bet is to look through here:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/media/movies

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 10:40

    cheers all - I'll have a look now :)

  • Amy23/04/2009 at 10:42

    I'm back into the world of unrestricted internet and F1 news that isn't 9 years old. Evening all ;)

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 10:48

    lol evening Amy :) where abouts are you?

    (I cant find those files dammit :( )

    Oh well, I will have to bribe Flibster :p

  • me23/04/2009 at 10:51

    Of course, I’m sure it would be brilliant, but Max is pushing for F1 to be less wasteful, and turning away perfectly good teams doesn’t seem like it would fit with that plan.

    not to mention that no team could afford to turn up and not race these days.

    there's been a lot of lovely nostalgia kicking around the f1 world these past 24 hours, but anyone who stops to think about pre-qually for more than 10 seconds has to agree it's nothing but pure, unadulterated lunacy.

    on every single level.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 10:55

    Of course, I’m sure it would be brilliant, but Max is pushing for F1 to be less wasteful, and turning away perfectly good teams doesn’t seem like it would fit with that plan.

    not to mention that no team could afford to turn up and not race these days.

    there’s been a lot of lovely nostalgia kicking around the f1 world these past 24 hours, but anyone who stops to think about pre-qually for more than 10 seconds has to agree it’s nothing but pure, unadulterated lunacy.

    on every single level.

    Since when has that stopped the rule makers from implementing something in F1?

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 10:55

    there’s been a lot of lovely nostalgia kicking around the f1 world these past 24 hours, but anyone who stops to think about pre-qually for more than 10 seconds has to agree it’s nothing but pure, unadulterated lunacy.

    I have to agree with mr c on this. If you get these teams possibly coming back into f1 such as lola and new teams like Prodrive because of the budget that Max has proposed enxt season, only to be told that they could be bringing their entire setup for no reason then a lot of people would be put off in a time where saving money is of a massive importance.

    It would be nice to see pre-qualifying perhaps but it doesn't make sense to have it in the current economic climate and put off not only new teams but even current teams who appear to be on the edge with being in or out of f1 ie. toyota, renault.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 11:00

    It would be nice to see pre-qualifying perhaps but it doesn’t make sense to have it in the current economic climate and put off not only new teams but even current teams who appear to be on the edge with being in or out of f1 ie. toyota, renault.

    But we can't really have more than 26 cars on the grid. I'm guessing Max and Bernie are doing this for two reasons:

    1. they can make more money off more people

    2. they will have allies against FOTA

    What will probably happen is that if any more teams then USF1, Lola, and Prodrive file an application to enter in 2010, they will have to wait for other teams (Toyota? Renault?) to pull out and collapse completely (i.e. no buyouts) before they can come in.

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 11:01

    (I cant find those files dammit :( )

    Oh well, I will have to bribe Flibster :p

    I've found the 1997 Bennetton ones I uploaded - could be thats all I did...

    Let me dig around a bit more.

  • me23/04/2009 at 11:02

    Let me dig around a bit more.

    it's in there somewhere. we haven't removed them. would help if there was a search mind you!

  • F1Wolf23/04/2009 at 11:03

    The letter also reveals that the FIA intends to grant three new teams a place on the 2010 grid. Both Lola, which today announced that it is evaluating an F1 entry, and USF1 are among the teams who are likely to be in contention for the available slots.

    AUTOSPORT also understands that Cosworth has been in discussion with as many as eight teams that are evaluating a move into budget-capped F1.

    This raises that possibility that F1 could return to a 26-car grid for the first time since 1995 despite numbers being limited to 24 in recent years.

    that is from Autosport yesterday. they are talking about three new teams, not more (at the moment)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:04

    that is from Autosport yesterday. they are talking about three new teams, not more (at the moment)

    But Bernie did say there are "lots of people" interested.

  • me23/04/2009 at 11:05

    But we can’t really have more than 26 cars on the grid.

    agreed. i don't honestly believe lola are able to make a serious bid though. just like i don't really think usf1(gp)e really have a hope in hell of making it to melbourne in 2010.

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 11:05

    Cheers Flibster, theres loads there for me to be getting on with lol.

    As for pre-qualifying, I cant see them ever having that back. With teams struggling to find any backing at all now, as Mr C says, there is no way anyone would help to fund a team that turns up for Friday and thats it.

    Although, it was always fun watching Giovanna Amati using the mirrors for her lippy! :P (joking!!!!)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:06

    Well, I fell stupid. Yesterday I say that I will be very surprised if there is an F1 game on Wii, and now it looks like that's all we are getting! I'm shocked we aren't getting a 360 or PS3 version until 2010 but I can understand why.

    I feel a blog post coming on.

  • F1Wolf23/04/2009 at 11:06

    "But Bernie did say there are “lots of people” interested."

    possible - AUTOSPORT also understands that Cosworth has been in discussion with as many as eight teams that are evaluating a move into budget-capped F1. - but looks like their idea is to allow only 3

  • me23/04/2009 at 11:07

    that is from Autosport yesterday. they are talking about three new teams, not more (at the moment)

    fair do's. that's a good point.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:07

    Well, I fell stupid. Yesterday I say that I will be very surprised if there is an F1 game on Wii, and now it looks like that’s all we are getting! I’m shocked we aren’t getting a 360 or PS3 version until 2010 but I can understand why.

    It's Gran Turismo all over again - wait wait wait. :(

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:07

    possible - AUTOSPORT also understands that Cosworth has been in discussion with as many as eight teams that are evaluating a move into budget-capped F1. - but looks like their idea is to allow only 3

    My dad told me about the article which he'd seen on the BBC. Let me go find it.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:08

    Well, I fell stupid. Yesterday I say that I will be very surprised if there is an F1 game on Wii, and now it looks like that’s all we are getting! I’m shocked we aren’t getting a 360 or PS3 version until 2010 but I can understand why.

    Imjust pleased it's not gonna be a kiddy f1 game. Sure it won't be the mega simulation the 360/PS3 games will be but I'll take it for now!

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 11:08

    Cheers Flibster, theres loads there for me to be getting on with lol.

    Turns out I didn't upload it - I was going to, then someone said they already had elsewehere and linked through to it.

    Unfortunatly, the links are now dead.

    I'll go find the DVD.

  • F1Wolf23/04/2009 at 11:09

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74704

    the whole autosport article

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:09

    Well, I fell stupid. Yesterday I say that I will be very surprised if there is an F1 game on Wii, and now it looks like that’s all we are getting! I’m shocked we aren’t getting a 360 or PS3 version until 2010 but I can understand why.

    It’s Gran Turismo all over again - wait wait wait. :(

    Scott, I understand how you feel, but from experience, I can tell you that it is much better to wait for the finished article than get an early release with bugs that cannot be fixed. Be patient and you will be amazed!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:10

    Has anyone got a really good article explaining KERS? I would like to show it to someone...

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:10

    Here's that BBC article:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7957788.stm

    note please:

    "We'll have 26 cars on the grid next year - we've got a lot of people confirmed," said Ecclestone.

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 11:11

    I bought a PSP purely for Gran Turismo....... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Still, this could be fun!

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:11

    It’s Gran Turismo all over again - wait wait wait. :(

    I'll try not to write my blog here, but it what it says to me it that they are massively ambitious with the game and genuinely need another six+ months on it.

    Somebody on the official forum said something along the lines of "you'd better make it the best game ever now", to which someone from Codemasters replied "That's what we intend to do, and the primary reason why we aren't rushing out the next-gen versions".

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:12

    Has anyone got a really good article explaining KERS? I would like to show it to someone…

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13042009/58/kers-explained.html ?

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:13

    I’ll try not to write my blog here, but it what it says to me it that they are massively ambitious with the game and genuinely need another six+ months on it.

    Somebody on the official forum said something along the lines of “you’d better make it the best game ever now”, to which someone from Codemasters replied “That’s what we intend to do, and the primary reason why we aren’t rushing out the next-gen versions”.

    I find it quite sad responses on various forums I've seen so far is 'I'm abandoning Codies for this decision, it's a joke, we want it now' etc basically. Grrr. :(

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 11:13

    Has anyone got a really good article explaining KERS? I would like to show it to someone…

    I know of quite a good video explaining it. ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:13

    I know of quite a good video explaining it.

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:13

    Has anyone got a really good article explaining KERS? I would like to show it to someone…

    I know of quite a good video explaining it. ;)

    Yeah so do I but I can't send that through really :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:14

    Has anyone got a really good article explaining KERS? I would like to show it to someone…

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13042009/58/kers-explained.html ?

    Cheers Scott

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:15

    I’ll try not to write my blog here, but it what it says to me it that they are massively ambitious with the game and genuinely need another six+ months on it. Somebody on the official forum said something along the lines of “you’d better make it the best game ever now”, to which someone from Codemasters replied “That’s what we intend to do, and the primary reason why we aren’t rushing out the next-gen versions”.

    Hmm, where have I heard something like this before?...Somewhere else......oh yeah, Honda/Brawn GP! Scrap 2009 and focus on 2010.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:17

    I find it quite sad responses on various forums I’ve seen so far is ‘I’m abandoning Codies for this decision, it’s a joke, we want it now’ etc basically. Grrr. :(

    This is why I generally don't take any part in forums or such related to games. The vast majority of gamers have no idea what goes into making a game, which is fair enough, but they a lot of them still think they know more than developers about whay they should or shouldn't do.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 11:17

    Hmm, where have I heard something like this before?…Somewhere else……oh yeah, Honda/Brawn GP! Scrap 2009 and focus on 2010.

    Worked for Brawn though.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:17

    Hmm, where have I heard something like this before?…Somewhere else……oh yeah, Honda/Brawn GP! Scrap 2009 and focus on 2010.

    Haha, yeah, worked out well enough for them! I might nick that for my blog actually..... ;)

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 11:18

    I personally think that the current knockout qualifying is the closest we're ever going to get to pre-qualifying. And I think it works quite well as a system really.

    I understand the desire for the pole sitter to be natural (and not weight affected) but that isn't actually mutually exclusive with knockout quali.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:19

    Worked for Brawn though.

    I know, that's what I'm saying. Still want 2009 cars in the 2010 game as an unlockable extra to make up for no console version of F1 2009 though.

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 11:19

    This is why I generally don’t take any part in forums or such related to games. The vast majority of gamers have no idea what goes into making a game, which is fair enough, but they a lot of them still think they know more than developers about whay they should or shouldn’t do.

    You'd never find anyone on an F1 forum doing that ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:19

    I find it quite sad responses on various forums I’ve seen so far is ‘I’m abandoning Codies for this decision, it’s a joke, we want it now’ etc basically. Grrr. :(

    This is why I generally don’t take any part in forums or such related to games. The vast majority of gamers have no idea what goes into making a game, which is fair enough, but they a lot of them still think they know more than developers about whay they should or shouldn’t do.

    rec.autos.simulators used to be good. Also nogripracing.com, racesimcentral and rfactorcentral.com are where I hang out for gaming news...

  • Amy23/04/2009 at 11:19

    I know, that’s what I’m saying. Still want 2009 cars in the 2010 game as an unlockable extra to make up for no console version of F1 2009 though.

    My wallet might get a workout buying 09 for my PSP and 10 for my PS3. Ouch.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:20

    Worked for Brawn though.

    I know, that’s what I’m saying. Still want 2009 cars in the 2010 game as an unlockable extra to make up for no console version of F1 2009 though.

    It will be 2009 cars just so they can release a 2010 version too!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:20

    rec.autos.simulators used to be good. Also nogripracing.com, racesimcentral and rfactorcentral.com are where I hang out for gaming news…

    You want another good place? Try www.virtualr.net

    Plenty of news stories and updated pretty much every day with game, software, hardware and mod news ;)

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:21

    I personally think that the current knockout qualifying is the closest we’re ever going to get to pre-qualifying. And I think it works quite well as a system really.

    I'm a big fan of what we have now. Although I think I prefer the original 60 minute shooutout of 12 laps from the 90's, our current format is extremely exciting and always a pleasure to watch :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:22

    It will be 2009 cars just so they can release a 2010 version too!

    Yeah but "F1 2009" in 2010? It's like those EA Sports games - the year on the box and the actual year don't add up.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:24

    I know, that’s what I’m saying. Still want 2009 cars in the 2010 game as an unlockable extra to make up for no console version of F1 2009 though.

    Well they have said that there will be a mode in the 2009 (Wii and PSP) where you have to re-create scenarios from the past (Lewis on the last lap of Brazil is the example everyone is giving) so the same will likely be in the 2010 game. What is unclear at the moment though is if the 360 PS3 game is going to be based on the 2009 or 2010 season.

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 11:24

    right - I need nosh. take care all :)

  • the Blue Orange Lion23/04/2009 at 11:24

    consider it done sir

    Thanks, I was wondering why on Earth my myspace blog was getting some weird amount of hits every day because I stopeed using it quite some time ago but then I realized it must've been listed somewhere and where else other than here?

    Maybe I'll join in on Saturday, kinda miss live commenting but taking my laptop downstairs (where the goggle-box is) is such a tiresome job because then I have to carry it upstairs that at some point I simply gave up. My health was suffering, physically I was losing 8 kilos per race weekend and my dog (which also happens to be my physio) had to be preparing special energy drinks based on cheap Red Bull imitations in order to save me from dehydration. It's tough being an F1 fan, I need a bigger and better ventilator for this summer.

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 11:24

    I’m a big fan of what we have now. Although I think I prefer the original 60 minute shooutout of 12 laps from the 90’s, our current format is extremely exciting and always a pleasure to watch :)

    I still prefer 60 minutes with 12 laps each.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:25

    Well they have said that there will be a mode in the 2009 (Wii and PSP) where you have to re-create scenarios from the past (Lewis on the last lap of Brazil is the example everyone is giving) so the same will likely be in the 2010 game. What is unclear at the moment though is if the 360 PS3 game is going to be based on the 2009 or 2010 season.

    When did they say that?

  • the Blue Orange Lion23/04/2009 at 11:26

    Wow, 4 comments posted at the same minute, that must be some sort of record, pity we don't have seconds here.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 11:27

    Wow, 4 comments posted at the same minute, that must be some sort of record, pity we don’t have seconds here.

    There are seconds on the doohickey, if you're really interested.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:27

    #185 - Scott Woodwiss said:

    It will be 2009 cars just so they can release a 2010 version too!

    Yeah but “F1 2009? in 2010? It’s like those EA Sports games - the year on the box and the actual year don’t add up.

    The PS1 games were released like that if I remember correctly...

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:28

    Yeah but “F1 2009? in 2010? It’s like those EA Sports games - the year on the box and the actual year don’t add up.

    With EA's games though they release them at the end of the year ie. October 2009 release for FIFA 2010 rather than having a year old date running through 2010 so it does make sense in that way.

  • me23/04/2009 at 11:29

    Wow, 4 comments posted at the same minute, that must be some sort of record, pity we don’t have seconds here.

    i'll put it on the list ;)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:30

    <blockquote>Yeah but “F1 2009″ in 2010? It’s like those EA Sports games - the year on the box and the actual year don’t add up.</blockquote> Well EA sports games are generally released a year in advance, so FIFA 2010 will come out some time this year, but you don't need to change much more than the shirts and team lineups. Wayne Rooney isn't going to 'do a Ferrari' and suddenly be rubbish at football next year. There is too much that can change in F1 for them to bring out a game before the season starts.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:32

    <blockquote>Yeah but “F1 2009? in 2010? It’s like those EA Sports games - the year on the box and the actual year don’t add up.</blockquote> Well EA sports games are generally released a year in advance, so FIFA 2010 will come out some time this year, but you don’t need to change much more than the shirts and team lineups. Wayne Rooney isn’t going to ‘do a Ferrari’ and suddenly be rubbish at football next year. There is too much that can change in F1 for them to bring out a game before the season starts.

    Yeah but changing the AI or the car performance isn't much more difficult ... that is just number variables in a text file...

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:33

    When did they say that?

    From the IGN.com preview:

    Other modes will condense the F1 experience into more digestible elements; splitscreen gameplay on the Wii (and four-player ad-hoc wireless on the PSP) brings full multiplayer support, while a series of F1-themed challenges brings more bite-sized play. This extends to the inclusion of scenarios – so it's possible to take charge of Hamilton and try to recreate his last lap heroics from last year's Brazilian Grand Prix. For the longer game, a three year career mode will supplement a straight up run-through of the 2009 season, allowing players to guide their own driver from the back of the grid.

  • me23/04/2009 at 11:34

    x1 new guest article now posted:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/04/23/sidepodtour-to-the-london-science-museum/

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:35

    Other modes will condense the F1 experience into more digestible elements; splitscreen gameplay on the Wii (and four-player ad-hoc wireless on the PSP) brings full multiplayer support, while a series of F1-themed challenges brings more bite-sized play. This extends to the inclusion of scenarios – so it’s possible to take charge of Hamilton and try to recreate his last lap heroics from last year’s Brazilian Grand Prix. For the longer game, a three year career mode will supplement a straight up run-through of the 2009 season, allowing players to guide their own driver from the back of the grid.

    So does this mean we'll get 2008 cars maybe for that bit? :D

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:35

    Yeah but changing the AI or the car performance isn’t much more difficult … that is just number variables in a text file…

    True, but they will still need a few races to know what to set the variables to.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:36

    Rob Smedley, Felipe Massa's race engineer who's become a vocal presence in coverage of the sport over the past few years, has expressed an interest in lending his Northern tones to the game, as have several other notable Formula 1 personnel.

    !!!!!!!!!!!

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:37

    So does this mean we’ll get 2008 cars maybe for that bit? :D

    I imagine it will be like the same mode in F1WGP where the cars and drivers all stay current, but they use a scenario from the past. I'm glad it's back though, that was one of my favourite parts of the N64 game.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:40
  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:41

    Rob Smedley, Felipe Massa’s race engineer who’s become a vocal presence in coverage of the sport over the past few years, has expressed an interest in lending his Northern tones to the game, as have several other notable Formula 1 personnel.

    Wait, so it's coming out on the Wii and Rob Smedley might be in it - that's more than a good enough excuse for Christine and Mr C to play it ;)

    "Felipe baby, you're going the wrong way!"

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 11:43

    Rob Smedley, Felipe Massa’s race engineer who’s become a vocal presence in coverage of the sport over the past few years, has expressed an interest in lending his Northern tones to the game, as have several other notable Formula 1 personnel.

    Ohoho! That'll be Five Pints of Awesome!! :D

    “We’ll have 26 cars on the grid next year - we’ve got a lot of people confirmed,” said Ecclestone.

    Just because they're confirmed doesn't mean they'll make it in time. Funnily enough, of everyone trying to get in, it's USF1 that's had the best head start. If they don't make it, what chance do the others have??

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 11:43

    “Felipe baby, you’re going the wrong way!”

    :D Good job, sunshine!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:44

    I imagine it will be like the same mode in F1WGP where the cars and drivers all stay current, but they use a scenario from the past. I’m glad it’s back though, that was one of my favourite parts of the N64 game.

    They had a scenario mode in F1 2000 on PS1. I remember one where you drove as Jenson Button from 5th on the grid and attemped to win the British GP. There was another where, driving as Hakkinen, you had to nurse his wounded McLaren home in the final few laps to victory at Monaco with the Ferraris taking chunks out of your lead every lap.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:46

    Rob Smedley, Felipe Massa’s race engineer who’s become a vocal presence in coverage of the sport over the past few years, has expressed an interest in lending his Northern tones to the game, as have several other notable Formula 1 personnel.

    I wouldn't get too excited about hearing all the different race engineers just yet. GRID had 3000 lines of speech , and you know how repetitive that got. For DIRT 2 they are upping it to 9000, but when you add in all the translations it's nearly 40 hours of audio. Remember they have to squeeze this on a disc alongside the game! There is a lot more that will have to be said over the radio in an F1 game so I doubt we will have more than one voice.

    Hope it is Smedley though, can't wait to be called "Chrissy Baby'!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:46

    Updated Force India front wing?

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/126814

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:47

    Hope it is Smedley though, can’t wait to be called “Chrissy Baby’!

    I love that on GRID when you log in, get to the main menu and the woman playing your agent says "Hello Scott" :D

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:48

    I wouldn’t get too excited about hearing all the different race engineers just yet. GRID had 3000 lines of speech , and you know how repetitive that got.

    I dunno, I love starting up the game to hear 'Hello Luke' :D

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:48

    Scott beat me to it!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:49

    Scott beat me to it!

    Just like I'm beating you in the laptime challenge ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:49

    Scott beat me to it!

    What if you have a really weird name? Does it still work?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:49

    Scott beat me to it!

    Just like I’m beating you in the laptime challenge ;)

    Meow!

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:50

    What if you have a really weird name? Does it still work?

    You get to choose what it says from a big big list. It even has completely stupid nicknames :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 11:51

    Meow!

    Gavin, these are 2 GUYS we're talking about. :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:51

    What if you have a really weird name? Does it still work?

    You get to choose what it says from a big big list. It even has completely stupid nicknames :D

    Does it have RubberGoat?

  • me23/04/2009 at 11:52

    Gavin, these are 2 GUYS we’re talking about. :P

    :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 11:52
  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:53

    I want a feature in the game so that I can press a button and the driver gives the middle finger so that I can say "Look what I've got for you - a hand gesture" :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 11:53

    Meow!

    Gavin, these are 2 GUYS we’re talking about. :P

    Yeah but still ;)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 11:54
  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 11:55

    Team manager mode for Codemasters F1? That's a pretty good idea - and JA seems to think so too. :D

    It has not been revealed whether there is a team manager mode, as there is on the FIFA 09 game on Wii, which my son is very keen on. I can just imagine people getting sidetracked and spending more time making virtual protests about diffusers than racing..

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 11:55

    Gavin, these are 2 GUYS we’re talking about. :P

    I just made a manly Sainsbury's order. It was:

    Charcoal, Lighter fluid & beer.

    And nothing else. I wonder if Katherine will notice ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:56

    Right, time to write a couple of blog posts me thinks. Don't forget to vote on the poll on my blog :)

    It has not been revealed whether there is a team manager mode, as there is on the FIFA 09 game on Wii, which my son is very keen on. I can just imagine people getting sidetracked and spending more time making virtual protests about diffusers than racing..

    :D

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 11:57

    Team manager mode for Codemasters F1? That’s a pretty good idea - and JA seems to think so too. :D

    Oh I;d looooooove to see anything involving manager modes on it. I'm a sucker for management style games.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:58

    Oh I;d looooooove to see anything involving manager modes on it. I’m a sucker for management style games.

    Codemasters did LMA Manager before, so they're not exactly unexperienced when it comes to management sims.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:58

    I just made a manly Sainsbury’s order. It was:

    Nicely done Sir.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 11:58

    Oh I;d looooooove to see anything involving manager modes on it. I’m a sucker for management style games.

    Nothing confirmed. But if it did exist, I'd be hooked for sure. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 11:59

    Codemasters did LMA Manager before, so they’re not exactly unexperienced when it comes to management sims.

    But yes, yes I would like a management mode or even a seperate F1 management game from Codies. I'd spend days on end playing. :D

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 11:59

    Team manager mode for Codemasters F1? That’s a pretty good idea - and JA seems to think so too. :D

    The trouble is, to make a decent manager game you would need to be able to change drivers, sponsors etc, and I'm pretty sure Bernie won't let them do that.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 12:00

    The trouble is, to make a decent manager game you would need to be able to change drivers, sponsors etc, and I’m pretty sure Bernie won’t let them do that.

    He did before, why not now?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 12:02

    He did before, why not now?

    I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure most of the people in the game were fictitious.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 12:04

    chris evans: 23/04/2009 at 12:02

    He did before, why not now?

    I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure most of the people in the game were fictitious.

    Ahem, F1 Manager 2000? Grand Prix World? Both feature real drivers and sponsors and were F1 licenced games.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 12:08

    Ahem, F1 Manager 2000? Grand Prix World? Both feature real drivers and sponsors and were F1 licenced games.

    Just looking into it, I remember it now, you're right. I'm sure I've read something from a developer in the last few years (may have been from Sony when they still had the licence) saying that an F1 manager game was damn near impossible to do now because there is so much red tape from the FIA, FOM and the teams.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 12:10

    Ahem, F1 Manager 2000? Grand Prix World? Both feature real drivers and sponsors and were F1 licenced games.

    Just looking into it, I remember it now, you’re right. I’m sure I’ve read something from a developer in the last few years (may have been from Sony when they still had the licence) saying that an F1 manager game was damn near impossible to do now because there is so much red tape from the FIA, FOM and the teams.

    Are they not just talking about the red tape they'd have to include in the game to make it realistic? ;)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 12:12

    Are they not just talking about the red tape they’d have to include in the game to make it realistic? ;)

    Haha, could be!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 12:12

    Just looking into it, I remember it now, you’re right. I’m sure I’ve read something from a developer in the last few years (may have been from Sony when they still had the licence) saying that an F1 manager game was damn near impossible to do now because there is so much red tape from the FIA, FOM and the teams.

    How does EA handle it with FIFA?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 12:16

    How does EA handle it with FIFA?

    I think FIFA basically own the right to all teams, so if you give them enough money, you can do what you want with them, even if the teams don't like it.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 12:17

    Look like Jenson is handling his role as championship leader well

    “F1 computer games and circuit simulations can be invaluable for racing drivers so it’s great news that our fans will also be able to experience the BGP 001 through this game.” - Formula 1 world championship leader Jenson Button

  • Kathi23/04/2009 at 12:28

    About Season with McLaren.

    I've uploaded them to my adrive.com and put the links on drop.io. The links are timed out now but I can update them or upload the videos directly to drop.io.

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 12:36

    About Season with McLaren.

    I’ve uploaded them to my adrive.com and put the links on drop.io. The links are timed out now but I can update them or upload the videos directly to drop.io.

    Up to you Kathi - I can't find the DVD with them on at the moment.

    It's in my playroom somewhere, but so is a lot of other crap. :D

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 12:39

    Don't forget, if anyone wants to post a preview summary, I can collect them up for the Digest tonight.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 12:44

    Don’t forget, if anyone wants to post a preview summary, I can collect them up for the Digest tonight.

    Aye, I'm in writing mode today so I'll pop one up in a bit.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 12:46

    Aye, I’m in writing mode today so I’ll pop one up in a bit.

    Woohoo :)

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 12:48

    I thought one of the building I monitord had a downed connection today - all the servers on site were showing as unreachable. Couldn't get anyone on site on the phone either.

    Turns out - they had a break in last night and all the servers and PC's had been nicked. No-one thought about letting me know....

    Thats my work for next week sorted out then - re-creating the machines and applying the backup images.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 12:49

    Turns out - they had a break in last night and all the servers and PC’s had been nicked. No-one thought about letting me know….

    Did they nick the phones too??

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 12:50

    Did they nick the phones too??

    Evidently. Don't care about them though - I don't manage them. :D

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 12:53

    Oh dear - Installed the new microsoft Family Safey Filter to have a play with it....

    It blocks google. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 12:53

    It blocks google.

    That's an epic fail right there.

  • Chris23/04/2009 at 12:54

    It blocks google. :D

    ha!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 12:57

    Looks like we won't be seeing any chance of a spectacular Kimi leap any time soon. Well, not this weekend anyway:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74714

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 13:00

    Comparing Force India's front wing in China to the pic of the new one in Bahrain, they've actually downgraded it. They've taken off the turning vanes on the endplates and the element that goes across the wing. But at the top of it, they have made a small cut into the top element.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 13:04

    Looks like we won’t be seeing any chance of a spectacular Kimi leap any time soon. Well, not this weekend anyway:

    Sounds about right, then - Massa gets KERS back, Raikkonen will probably pass on it.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 13:04

    Bahrain preview quote:

    Ah Bahrain, my least favourite of all the Tilkedromes. At least his other tracks have some kind of character or unique features. Bahrain is just bland and uninteresting. Needless to say, I'm not expecting too much from the racing, but then I said that before China last week, so who knows what might happen. At least we will probably see someone other than Felipe win.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 13:06

    Comparing Force India’s front wing in China to the pic of the new one in Bahrain, they’ve actually downgraded it. They’ve taken off the turning vanes on the endplates and the element that goes across the wing. But at the top of it, they have made a small cut into the top element.

    Also didn't notice until looking at a pic of the FI in China - the front wing has little diffuser-like strakes underneath it. They're missing as well. But I think I know why there's this little cut out section on the top element. It looks like they're trying to angle the airflow towards the countours around the engine cover so they can channel it towards the rear of the car a bit better.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 13:10

    My preview quote:

    Bahrain usually signifies the end of the first stint of fly-away races and this season is no exception. The main issue here is not the heat or humidity but the wind. Strong gales blowing across the circuit push sand and dirt onto the track, and this means an increased chance of falling off the road. But falling off is something I'm sure Vettel and co at Red Bull aren't too keen on doing so. There's hardly been any time for them to let their Chinese success sink in and it's straight back to racing already. Brawn will be their nearest challengers, but I'm naming Toyota as the dark horses. The pre-season testing here should give them a slight head start on the other frontrunners and who knows - we may see Jarno or Timo on the top step come Sunday.

    Not too long is it? :)

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 13:14

    Bahrain preview quote:

    Wonderful, thank you :)

    Not too long is it?

    You'll have to wait and see ;) Love the stuff about the wind though.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 13:14

    You’ll have to wait and see Love the stuff about the wind though.

    Heh, I do my best ;)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 13:19

    My preview:

    When Jenson Button was asked to give his first impression of the Sakhir circuit in 2004, he said it was "half-Melbourne, half-Sepang". He won both those races this year, and he still must be the favorite for this weekend.

    But it's easy to forget that Robert Kubica took his maiden pole here last year, and his team BMW have always scored well here. Robert and Nick Heidfeld cannot be underestimated this weekend.

    ---

    Is that OK? :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 13:20

    When Jenson Button was asked to give his first impression of the Sakhir circuit in 2004, he said it was “half-Melbourne, half-Sepang”. He won both those races this year, and he still must be the favorite for this weekend.

    I like that one :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 13:21

    I like that one

    Yah, 'tis gut :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 13:22

    Yah, ’tis gut

    Danke schon. :D

    I hope Christine likes it too. ;)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 13:26

    Is anybody else seeing an advert for Indycar on the right hand side of the BBC F1 site? Or is it another symptom of the banner ad problem I'm having?

  • littlepurplegoth23/04/2009 at 13:27

    How does EA handle it with FIFA?

    Given how long EA have been in the 'games' market, I suspect that they have a pre-existing agreement that is extremely long term (in gaming terms) and reasonably priced. It was probably struck back in the days when games were for non-console formats and had to run on teeny tiny amounts of memory, even if you were 'advanced' enough to have a drive system to plug into the computer as well as the internal/supplied drives.....

    Somewhere I have a copy (on yellowing paper, somewhere from the mid to late 80's lol) of an article that looked at EA (in an earlier 'incarnation') and how long they struck deals for. IIRC they would routinely make a deal on the then BBC model, with a minimum 10 year term, plus a continuation clause that also limted the uplift in licence fee to within a certain multiplier of the original. They were and are pretty generous over the addtitional sales/profit points that they would (and do) offer.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 13:27

    I hope Christine likes it too. ;)

    Good stuff. I like ones that remember things, cos you can guarantee I won't :)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 13:28

    I was looking at the Melbourne-Sepang stats, and I uncovered something by accident: we've had SEVEN different winners in Albert Park in the last seven years.

    2003 - Coulthard

    2004 - M Schumacher

    2005 - Fisichella

    2006 - Alonso

    2007 - Raikkonen

    2008 - Hamilton

    2009 - Button

    Not bad, not bad at all...

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 13:29

    Good stuff. I like ones that remember things, cos you can guarantee I won’t :D

    Yay! :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 13:50

    One of my favourite comedians at the moment, Lee Mack, is going on a new tour this year and next, and he starts at the Norwich Playhouse on December 3/4 :D

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 13:50

    Is this part of the rumours we were discussing before?

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74717

    The British Grand Prix's future has been thrown into fresh doubt after Donington Park's owners, Wheatcroft & Son Limited, commenced legal proceedings against the track's operator - Donington Ventures Leisure Ltd - over unpaid rent.

  • me23/04/2009 at 13:51

    Is this part of the rumours we were discussing before?

    yup. the story broke first on twitter. interesting.

  • me23/04/2009 at 13:54

    "Donington Ventures Leisure Ltd owe us nearly £2.5m in rent dating back to September 2008."

    that's showing a lot of patience. especially seeing as gillett has been busy digging the place up.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 13:54

    Is this part of the rumours we were discussing before?

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74717

    The British Grand Prix’s future has been thrown into fresh doubt after Donington Park’s owners, Wheatcroft & Son Limited, commenced legal proceedings against the track’s operator - Donington Ventures Leisure Ltd - over unpaid rent.

    Hmm, I have heard that story before. Simon Gillett tried to dismiss it and stated that he had a good relationship with Tom Wheatcroft...

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 14:20

    Hehehehe... have been playing the classic Destruction Derby and one of the characters reminds me of a certain Formula 1 supremo...

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dsc00601-jpg

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 14:21

    Hehehehe… have been playing the classic Destruction Derby and one of the characters reminds me of a certain Formula 1 supremo…

    Haha, give him smash from me.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 14:24

    Hehehehe… have been playing the classic Destruction Derby and one of the characters reminds me of a certain Formula 1 supremo…

    Aptly named as well. That can't be a coincidence.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 14:29

    Hmm, I have heard that story before. Simon Gillett tried to dismiss it and stated that he had a good relationship with Tom Wheatcroft…

    He kept telling off the doubters, saying that the stands will keep coming up. I'm betting he's not so sure now...

  • Chris23/04/2009 at 14:29

    Just seen batracer. How come I am on a near identical setup to Scott, yet I'm knocked out in Q2, while he makes it through?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 14:30

    Just seen batracer. How come I am on a near identical setup to Scott, yet I’m knocked out in Q2, while he makes it through?

    Your miniscule difference in setup may mean the difference between P10 and P11.

  • Chris23/04/2009 at 14:33

    Your miniscule difference in setup may mean the difference between P10 and P11.

    Maybe. Either that, or we're using different tyres. Ah, well. Last race, I qualified last (I've been away for a week or so), but still ended up second before an electrical fault stopped me. I know the car's got the pace, I just need to stop making mistakes.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 14:37

    So Heikki, how are you feeling today?

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/126828

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 14:38

    MW: "Do you think they'll let me play Cyclops in X-Men?"

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/126827

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 14:53

    Hehehehe… have been playing the classic Destruction Derby and one of the characters reminds me of a certain Formula 1 supremo…

    Oh my goodness! I remember that game! Do you have a copy of it? :D :D Would love to play it again.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 14:55

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/xpb-298528-hires-3-jpeg

    Race preparation is tough, I see. :)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 14:56

    Race preparation is tough, I see. :)

    It's a hard life, but someone's gotta do it.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 14:56

    Race preparation is tough, I see. :)

    I guess his wife decided to pass on Scherzinger v Michibata. :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 14:56

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/xpb-298528-hires-3-jpeg

    Race preparation is tough, I see. :)

    staying cool, no?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 14:57

    Has anyone seen the Mantovani China video? Some appearances from Webber and Alonso too. :D

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 14:58

    Race preparation is tough, I see. :)

    I discovered something (slightly) related to this....

    Today i got a call from a tutor at the university i'm going to be at to chat through some stuff about the course....i discovered that in my first year, the university pay for students of the course to take their ARDS test....which is the test you take to become a racing driver :D woot

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 14:58

    Has anyone seen the Mantovani China video? Some appearances from Webber and Alonso too. :D

    Not to mention Piquet and the Ferrari boys. :D All in water sport fun!

  • me23/04/2009 at 14:59

    Today i got a call from a tutor at the university i’m going to be at to chat through some stuff about the course….i discovered that in my first year, the university pay for students of the course to take their ARDS test

    why?

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 15:00

    why?

    it's a motorsport course, other aspects of the course include becoming a marshall, scruiteneer, time keeper too.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:01

    it’s a motorsport course, other aspects of the course include becoming a marshall, scruiteneer, time keeper too.

    you're taking a motorsport course??

    wowow!

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:01

    it’s a motorsport course, other aspects of the course include becoming a marshall, scruiteneer, time keeper too.

    ahhh. wonderful. will ya keep us posted?

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 15:01

    you’re taking a motorsport course??

    yup, i'm going for the course that i will enjoy the most :)

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 15:02

    ahhh. wonderful. will ya keep us posted?

    hehe, i dont think you'll be able to keep me quiet :D

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:02

    On the topic of commentators I finally got around to rescuing a comment I made a year or so ago on another site...

    The problem is that there are two roles in the commentry box. They should be divided up like a newspaper between News and Comment. And Murray used to do News and Martin did Comment. But James, desperately desperately wants to show off how much he knows about F1. It means that both of them end up doing Comment and we don’t have a clue what’s going on! It means that Martin sometimes, feeling embarresed no doubt ends up describing what’s going on. All of their descriptions are far too slow because James has been taking his lead from Martin.

    It should be like this:

    James: Somethings happening on the track, somethings happening on the track. Something very exciting is happening on the track. Why is it happening on the track?

    Martin: Because of x and then y and this is because of…

    James: Sorry to cut you off Martin something is happening on the track. Something is happening on the track. Something is happening on the track.

    When it is usually like this:

    James: This week I had dinner with somebody who told me something that was relevant before this race started.

    Martin: Really? That might mean the fuel in the race is going to be x.

    James: Well I thought the complete opposite because I’m completely stupid.

    Martin: That would be a stupid thing to think.

    James: Yeah I know. I’m stupid. I’m stupid. I’m stupid.

    Martin: Well while we’ve been speaking about that this is what’s been happening on the track.

    James: Let me re-cap everything that’s been happening since the start of the race again, I haven’t done that for 2 minutes and it’s not as if you’ve been watching the whole race or anything and as far as I can tell nothing could possibly be happening now and if it is then it can probably wait a minute or two and I’ll include it in my next recap of everything that’s happened in the race.

    Martin: You are stupid.

    James: Yes I’m stupid.

    Or something like that.

    I still think I was right.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 15:05

    James: Let me re-cap everything that’s been happening since the start of the race again, I haven’t done that for 2 minutes and it’s not as if you’ve been watching the whole race or anything and as far as I can tell nothing could possibly be happening now and if it is then it can probably wait a minute or two and I’ll include it in my next recap of everything that’s happened in the race.

    I heart that sentence.

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:06

    I still think I was right.

    I don't actually now think that James is stupid - of course not. It was just my frustration. I'm now not sure how to square what Legard is doing which is like my preferred version with the problems I am having with it.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:06

    I heart that sentence.

    Alex, can you do something similar for Jonathan and Martin? :D

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:08

    Alex, can you do something similar for Jonathan and Martin? :D

    I might have to wait a few more races to get my ear in. It's been difficult in that so far this season I have been watching the races in less than normal situations. Except for the last one. The last one was the only time I really had a chance to listen.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:08

    I don’t actually now think that James is stupid - of course not. It was just my frustration. I’m now not sure how to square what Legard is doing which is like my preferred version with the problems I am having with it.

    Maybe it's because Jonathan's version goes like...

    "Something's... happening... track... Martin."

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 15:09

    I don’t actually now think that James is stupid - of course not. It was just my frustration. I’m now not sure how to square what Legard is doing which is like my preferred version with the problems I am having with it.

    Legard is something like:

    "How brilliant to see some cars going round the track. They go quite fast, don't they Martin? Button is winning right now. Ooh, a bit of paper, yes, just like he won back in Hungary 2006. Excellent."

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:09

    I might have to wait a few more races to get my ear in. It’s been difficult in that so far this season I have been watching the races in less than normal situations. Except for the last one. The last one was the only time I really had a chance to listen.

    Gotcha. I made an intelligent guess, though, based on your stories and what little I've heard of him...

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 15:09

    “Something’s… happening… track… Martin.”

    :)

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:10

    “Something’s… happening… track… Martin.”

    someTHING's.... .... ... haPENing-track... Martin.

  • Chris23/04/2009 at 15:10

    “Something’s… happening… track… Martin.”

    Whenever I think Legard, I hear " It's Red Bull from Red Bull, from Brawn from Brawn from etc" all the way to Force India!

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:11

    Whenever I think Legard, I hear ” It’s Red Bull from Red Bull, from Brawn from Brawn from etc” all the way to Force India!

    Yeah. That is supremely annoying. Last race he did the drivers and then the cars!

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:11

    “How brilliant to see some cars going round the track. They go quite fast, don’t they Martin? Button is winning right now. Ooh, a bit of paper, yes, just like he won back in Hungary 2006. Excellent.”

    :)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:12

    Yeah. That is supremely annoying. Last race he did the drivers and then the cars!

    Maybe he'll do engines next! :D

    Back when we had a tyre war, he'd have gone "It's Bridgestone, from Bridgestone, from Michelin, from Michelin..."

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:14

    Back when we had a tyre war, he’d have gone “It’s Bridgestone, from Bridgestone, from Michelin, from Michelin…”

    he actually is more annoying than james allen. i didn't think it possible.

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:15

    There is a thing that Murray used to do which was the best thing out, in my opinion, which was he would wait for a lull and then talk about the situation. Not as a recap but as, "so we can see that Schumacher hasn't been in for fuel since the race began, his mechanics must be getting themselves ready. But how many more laps can he go for. Some people have been saying another 3 from here. But because of the safety car it may now stretch out for another 2 laps. WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT..." Martin: He pits.

    It might have been wrong, you see, but on the other hand he was really recapping, without having to say, "so in case you missed it there was a safety car, it's odd Schumacher hasn't pitted yet" etc.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:15

    he actually is more annoying than james allen. i didn’t think it possible.

    i still find him better than allen. at least there's still a clear division of roles between the two... come on, we said we'd give jonathan 4 races! what happened to that? :D

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:15

    Murray also used to slow down and go quiet to do those bits. Which made the pants on fire bits more believable.

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:17

    i still find him better than allen. at least there’s still a clear division of roles between the two… come on, we said we’d give jonathan 4 races! what happened to that? :D

    just getting my eye in ;)

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:20

    i still find him better than allen. at least there’s still a clear division of roles between the two… come on, we said we’d give jonathan 4 races! what happened to that? :D

    I am waiting also for a normal race. Those three races were some of the most eventful in years!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:21

    If you want a refresher of what Murray's commentary was like:

    http://www.justin.tv/the_f1_society

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:21

    he actually is more annoying than james allen. i didn’t think it possible.

    No. Really no. He was terrible. At least Legard gives Martin a chance to speak.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:24
  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:25

    Ooh Canada 98 :D

    No Martin here, I think - I think it was Derek Warwick alongside Murray here.

    Stallone! This was the beginnings of that God-awful movie 'Driven'.

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 15:25

    #22

    Brawn and Mercedes’ deal is for more than a year - 2 or 3 years, I think. So there’s nothing Flavio or anyone else can do about it. Besides, why would Mercedes let go of a winning outfit?

    Mario has not actually ruled out supplying another team with their engine, just that no one has show any interest.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:25

    No Martin here, I think - I think it was Derek Warwick alongside Murray here.

    Ahh, when Brundle was on his Le Mans duties.

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:26

    No. Really no. He was terrible. At least Legard gives Martin a chance to speak.

    it took me a lot longer to get annoyed by allen. i actually thought that the very first race he commented on he did a good job. the man got uber, uber annoying with the exit of schumi and the arrival of lewis.

    with legard, his voice is less grating and he at least covers all the drivers. the problem is he's not adding anything that i wouldn't know by having my eyes open.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:26

    Mario has not actually ruled out supplying another team with their engine, just that no one has show any interest.

    Considering how reliable their engine is, and strong on power, I'm very surprised no one is interested.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:26

    Ahh, when Brundle was on his Le Mans duties.

    And it IS Warwick.

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:27

    I loved it when they had to run back after a red flag to their spare cars

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 15:28

    Ooh Canada 98 :D

    I love how after that huge, huge crash with Wurz at turn one, Trulli runs straight over to his car to make sure he's alright :)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:28

    I loved it when they had to run back after a red flag to their spare cars

    And took each other out at the first corner again anyway at the 2nd start. :D

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:29

    And took each other out at the first corner again anyway at the 2nd start. :D

    :)

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:29

    James Allen has just arrived on the commentry

  • Alex Andronov23/04/2009 at 15:30

    James Allen has just arrived on the commentry

    From the pits

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:30

    James Allen has just arrived on the commentry

    how does he sound?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:30

    James Allen has just arrived on the commentry

    Hehe. He was actually very good in the pits.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:30

    with legard, his voice is less grating and he at least covers all the drivers. the problem is he’s not adding anything that i wouldn’t know by having my eyes open.

    True, but Allen assumed either we only started watching the race part way through, or that we all have no short term memory. I found that far more annoying.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 15:31

    how does he sound?

    I used to like him as a pitlane reporter. Maybe a minute of James every 20-30 minutes is the limit for him? :P

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:31

    Hehe. He was actually very good in the pits.

    Yep, I always thought he did a great job there.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 15:31

    it took me a lot longer to get annoyed by allen. i actually thought that the very first race he commented on he did a good job. the man got uber, uber annoying with the exit of schumi and the arrival of lewis.

    I started getting annoyed with him well before that. He was too Button-focused for my taste (but probably not Lou or Lukeh's ;) )

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:32

    True, but Allen assumed either we only started watching the race part way through, or that we all have no short term memory. I found that far more annoying.

    or that we'd rather be watching corrie.

    hmmm... ok, allen is still more annoying.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 15:33

    hmmm… ok, allen is still more annoying.

    Hehe, you're funny.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:33

    or that we’d rather be watching corrie.

    Corrie over F1? NEVER!

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:34

    Hehe, you’re funny.

    for being indecisive over amazingly trivial matters?

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 15:35

    But it’s easy to forget that Robert Kubica took his maiden pole here last year, and his team BMW have always scored well here. Robert and Nick Heidfeld cannot be underestimated this weekend.

    Yes but have you seen Nick's comments - there have been no updates since Melbourne - hence each race they are getting further behind everyone else!

    I still think BMW Sauber have two of the best drivers - this year the car is really uncompetitive (Ferrari has more speed the BMW more reliability)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:36

    Why is it when Palmer speaks it's always like he's presenting, even when being interviewed.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:37

    Yes but have you seen Nick’s comments - there have been no updates since Melbourne - hence each race they are getting further behind everyone else!

    Why no updates?! Are they going to release it all in 1 chunk in Barcelona?

    I still think BMW Sauber have two of the best drivers - this year the car is really uncompetitive (Ferrari has more speed the BMW more reliability)

    Agreed - I had Buemi for a while, then sold him when his price went up for Kubica. Surely he'll at least score some points this weekend?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:37

    or that we’d rather be watching corrie.

    A few times they actually put a message on the screen saying corrie would follow the race when everything was still running to time. ITV really know their audience.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:39

    Mr.C, the video of Mike Gascoyne explaining the diffusers with the touch screen is up on the BBC F1 site. I know how much you enjoyed it first time round :D

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 15:41

    for being indecisive over amazingly trivial matters?

    Yup.

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:41

    Mr.C, the video of Mike Gascoyne explaining the diffusers with the touch screen is up on the BBC F1 site. I know how much you enjoyed it first time round :D

    erm?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:42

    erm?

    Do you not remember saying how brilliant it was and how much you love the BBC coverage?

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:42

    Mr.C, the video of Mike Gascoyne explaining the diffusers with the touch screen is up on the BBC F1 site. I know how much you enjoyed it first time round :D

    oooh, you mean like the one martin did?

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:42

    Do you not remember saying how brilliant it was and how much you love the BBC coverage?

    had i been drinking?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:43

    oooh, you mean like the one martin did?

    Yup.

    had i been drinking?

    *shrug*

    Probably :P

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 15:44

    *shrug*

    Probably :P

    Hehehehe.

  • me23/04/2009 at 15:44

    Yup.

    ah, right. i didn't see mike's. shall watch this one when i get home. thanks.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:45

    Speaking of the BBC site, the new Murray's questions video is up. His answer about female racing drivers is priceless.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 15:46

    Speaking of the BBC site, the new Murray’s questions video is up. His answer about female racing drivers is priceless.

    He's had a few adventures along the way y'know! :P

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:47

    He’s had a few adventures along the way y’know! :P

    *shudder*

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 15:48

    Why no updates?! Are they going to release it all in 1 chunk in Barcelona?

    This news plus Mario's uncharacteristic posturing on the diffuser is suggesting that they have had some quite big financial cut backs. We know in February this year that Mercedes very nearly withdrew from F1 this season due to the economic climate (Brawn may be helping them to keep being committed).

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:50

    This news plus Mario’s uncharacteristic posturing on the diffuser is suggesting that they have had some quite big financial cut backs. We know in February this year that Mercedes very nearly withdrew from F1 this season due to the economic climate (Brawn may be helping them to keep being committed).

    via selling them customer units.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:51

    This news plus Mario’s uncharacteristic posturing on the diffuser is suggesting that they have had some quite big financial cut backs. We know in February this year that Mercedes very nearly withdrew from F1 this season due to the economic climate (Brawn may be helping them to keep being committed).

    I find this very surprising. BMW is the only team that isn't rolling out updates right now. Every other team has been bringing new parts to every race, even Renault!

    BMW have never had financial issues in the team before - why just now, and why are they the only ones who seem to be this badly affected?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:52

    BMW have never had financial issues in the team before - why just now, and why are they the only ones who seem to be this badly affected?

    Poor car sales maybe? It was enough to ruin Honda.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:52

    BMW have never had financial issues in the team before - why just now, and why are they the only ones who seem to be this badly affected?

    Maybe instead of just going all out, they're biding their time and decided to develop the heck out of the new parts in the factory rather than fly them out to races and risk getting them damaged or something.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:54

    Maybe instead of just going all out, they’re biding their time and decided to develop the heck out of the new parts in the factory rather than fly them out to races and risk getting them damaged or something.

    That's a huge gamble - it will be costing them a lot of points. Besides, they can only really test those parts on the track, which is why I'm surprised they're not bringing those parts to these races.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 15:55

    This news plus Mario’s uncharacteristic posturing on the diffuser is suggesting that they have had some quite big financial cut backs. We know in February this year that Mercedes very nearly withdrew from F1 this season due to the economic climate (Brawn may be helping them to keep being committed).

    I find this very surprising. BMW is the only team that isn’t rolling out updates right now. Every other team has been bringing new parts to every race, even Renault!

    BMW have never had financial issues in the team before - why just now, and why are they the only ones who seem to be this badly affected?

    Because Rich likes to use stories which we all know are complete rubbish to try and make points based on wild conjecture - Rich, please stop using stories which have been proved to be complete rubbish to make a point :(

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 15:56

    we have a new person in the top 5 most talkative list:

    I'm losing it now. Really losing it. Off the top 5 for the first time since November. Ahh, well done Mr. J

    Afternoon all, apart from that Donnington thing I heard on Radio Ncle, any other things up?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:57

    Question - who do you find more annoying: James Allen or Darrel Eastlake from Australia? :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:57

    Afternoon all, apart from that Donnington thing I heard on Radio Ncle, any other things up?

    Prodrive wanna do F1 next year - for real this time.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:57

    I’m losing it now. Really losing it. Off the top 5 for the first time since November. Ahh, well done Mr. J

    Methinks I won't be around very long - I usually miss the live podcasts, so that'll be your chance. ;)

    Afternoon all, apart from that Donington thing I heard on Radio Ncle, any other things up?

    There's news on the Codemasters F1 game on Autosport.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 15:57

    Personally, I think BMW have messed up big time. I've said before that if they had continued car development last year I'm certain we would have had a three way battle in Brazil. Because of that, anything less than a championship this year will be a failure, and so far it isn't looking good for them.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:58

    Question - who do you find more annoying: James Allen or Darrel Eastlake from Australia? :D

    Eastlake - he mispronounces their names!!!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 15:58

    Eastlake - he mispronounces their names!!!

    Rae-konnen is a good example.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 15:58

    Eastlake - he mispronounces their names!!!

    OK, as a host he's not so good, but as a commentator - goddamn hilarious :D

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 15:59

    Maybe instead of just going all out, they’re biding their time and decided to develop the heck out of the new parts in the factory rather than fly them out to races and risk getting them damaged or something.

    But Nick is saying it is hurting them badly. Firstly Nick rarely complains - he is the model of loyalty. The only explanation other than financial is a huge re-development that include the diffuser.

    For the first quarter of 2009 as a whole, sales at the entire BMW group were down 21.1 percent to 277 264 vehicles

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:00

    But Nick is saying it is hurting them badly. Firstly Nick rarely complains - he is the model of loyalty. The only explanation other than financial is a huge re-development that include the diffuser.

    Which I'm more inclined to believe - the diffuser isn't a bolt-on part. They're also preparing a special light chassis for Kubica.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:00

    There’s news on the Codemasters F1 game on Autosport.

    Goooooo PSP!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:00

    For the first quarter of 2009 as a whole, sales at the entire BMW group were down 21.1 percent to 277 264 vehicles

    I did see on Fast Lane Daily a long while back that BMW's M division and Merc's AMG division had something like 60% sales increase in 2008.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:01

    Which I’m more inclined to believe - the diffuser isn’t a bolt-on part. They’re also preparing a special light chassis for Kubica.

    They used that in the China practices did they not?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 16:01

    Which I’m more inclined to believe - the diffuser isn’t a bolt-on part. They’re also preparing a special light chassis for Kubica.

    And you know that's gonna be a Lotus or Redbull eh?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:02

    Goooooo PSP!

    Hear hear! :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:02

    And you know that’s gonna be a Lotus or Redbull eh?

    Not necessarily - BMW have always built strong chassis. :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:03

    Which I’m more inclined to believe - the diffuser isn’t a bolt-on part. They’re also preparing a special light chassis for Kubica.

    As Renault proved staying up until 5am fitting Alonso's car with a double diffuser.

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 16:03

    Personally, I think BMW have messed up big time. I’ve said before that if they had continued car development last year I’m certain we would have had a three way battle in Brazil. Because of that, anything less than a championship this year will be a failure, and so far it isn’t looking good for them.

    I agree - they also got over-confident and I think put too much emphasis on KERS as well. McLaren have the best KERS and are continually improving their car each race and by Spain they (Lewis at least) will be challenging for race victories.

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 16:05

    Not necessarily - BMW have always built strong chassis.

    Robert has tested it!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:05

    I agree - they also got over-confident and I think put too much emphasis on KERS as well. McLaren have the best KERS and are continually improving their car each race and by Spain they (Lewis at least) will be challenging for race victories.

    McLaren certainly are confident about their system seeing as they've used it on both cars in all 3 races so far. Must be well developed and I bet they've managed to hit a sweet spot with the weight distribution too.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:06

    Personally, I think BMW have messed up big time. I’ve said before that if they had continued car development last year I’m certain we would have had a three way battle in Brazil. Because of that, anything less than a championship this year will be a failure, and so far it isn’t looking good for them.

    But you have seen how poor McLaren and Ferrari were because of that this year.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:06

    McLaren certainly are confident about their system seeing as they’ve used it on both cars in all 3 races so far. Must be well developed and I bet they’ve managed to hit a sweet spot with the weight distribution too.

    I wouldn't say sweet spot, but it's a workable spot. No such luck at Renault and Ferrari.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:07

    But you have seen how poor McLaren and Ferrari were because of that this year.

    But they both won a title last year. BMW, on the other hand, won neither title last year, and yet they're still in the same boat as McLaren and Ferrari.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 16:07

    But you have seen how poor McLaren and Ferrari were because of that this year.

    They may be poor this year, but they got a championship each last year.

    BMW are poor this year and have one win.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:08

    But they both won a title last year. BMW, on the other hand, won neither title last year, and yet they’re still in the same boat as McLaren and Ferrari.

    I wouldn't say same boat, considering the fact that in Malaysia they got a podium and Aus were on course for a podium, and just the fact that in China they crashed into every living thing denied them any points. I dont see why they are struggling at all.

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 16:08

    Must be well developed and I bet they’ve managed to hit a sweet spot with the weight distribution too.

    They seem to be going in the right direction, unlike Ferrari that are going in all directions at the same time. Macca did not contest the diffuser since they thought it might help them gain down-force and solve their aero problems - well that is my speculation.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:09

    They seem to be going in the right direction, unlike Ferrari that are going in all directions at the same time. Macca did not contest the diffuser since they thought it might help them gain down-force and solve their aero problems - well that is my speculation.

    Agreed - not to mention that Mercedes supply engines to one of the 3 teams.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:09

    They seem to be going in the right direction, unlike Ferrari that are going in all directions at the same time. Macca did not contest the diffuser since they thought it might help them gain down-force and solve their aero problems - well that is my speculation.

    That's what you get with Italians in charge, I'm afraid.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:10

    I wouldn’t say same boat, considering the fact that in Malaysia they got a podium and Aus were on course for a podium, and just the fact that in China they crashed into every living thing denied them any points. I dont see why they are struggling at all.

    I don't think they would've gotten that podium in Malaysia. Even so, they're still way behind Brawn, Toyota, and Red Bull right now. They can't afford to play catchup, because that's not their style or their strength.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 16:11

    I wouldn’t say same boat, considering the fact that in Malaysia they got a podium and Aus were on course for a podium, and just the fact that in China they crashed into every living thing denied them any points. I dont see why they are struggling at all.

    They are doing ok, and they deserve more points than they have got, but considering how long they have been working on the car they should be far, far better.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:11

    I don’t think they would’ve gotten that podium in Malaysia. Even so, they’re still way behind Brawn, Toyota, and Red Bull right now. They can’t afford to play catchup, because that’s not their style or their strength.

    *in Malaysia had it stayed dry or had we gone full-distance.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:13

    I don’t think they would’ve gotten that podium in Malaysia. Even so, they’re still way behind Brawn, Toyota, and Red Bull right now. They can’t afford to play catchup, because that’s not their style or their strength.

    Okay then, one race you can determine true pace and its Aus, were we third and set to get second. I dont buy the, we are going to win thing. Heidfeld was in a start line crash so he could hardly improve. Its too early to slag off BMW, way to early.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 16:14

    Okay then, one race you can determine true pace and its Aus, were we third and set to get second. I dont buy the, we are going to win thing. Heidfeld was in a start line crash so he could hardly improve. Its too early to slag off BMW, way to early.

    But if the Toyotas hadn't started from the pit lane at least one of them would have been ahead, probably both.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:15

    Okay then, one race you can determine true pace and its Aus, were we third and set to get second. I dont buy the, we are going to win thing. Heidfeld was in a start line crash so he could hardly improve. Its too early to slag off BMW, way to early.

    Not even Australia is an accurate gauge of BMW's pace. They only got that high up because they used the options on the first stint and got lucky with the Safety Car to erase the gap they had to the front.

    BMW had a better shot at last year's title than they will have at this year's title, I think.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:15

    But if the Toyotas hadn’t started from the pit lane at least one of them would have been ahead, probably both.

    Agreed.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 16:16

    BMW had a better shot at last year’s title than they will have at this year’s title, I think.

    Yup. Mario's master plan isn't working out at the moment.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:16

    BMW had a better shot at last year’s title than they will have at this year’s title, I think.

    Absolutly, sad to admit though.

    I'll see after Turkey to see if I know what I'm on about

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 16:16

    I wouldn’t say same boat, considering the fact that in Malaysia they got a podium and Aus were on course for a podium, and just the fact that in China they crashed into every living thing denied them any points. I dont see why they are struggling at all.

    We know Australia throws up funny results. In Malaysia Nick was slow but gained by only having made one pit stop to every one else's 3+ (he was lucky). In China both cars were slow and got tangled wit other cars - but they were still slow and Nick is stating they are way behind other teams.

    Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74713

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:16

    This weekend we'll get to properly judge the new order of the field. Thankfully according to my weather gadgets, it's gonna be dry all weekend with just a bit of cloud around. No chance of rain though.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:17

    Absolutly, sad to admit though.

    Quoted the wrong thing but agree with that. Was meant to quote Chris' thing actually

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:17

    This weekend we’ll get to properly judge the new order of the field. Thankfully according to my weather gadgets, it’s gonna be dry all weekend with just a bit of cloud around. No chance of rain though.

    Bahrain will be an OK judge, but we'll have to reassess things again 2 weeks later in Barcelona - that's where all the new updates come in.

  • me23/04/2009 at 16:17

    This weekend we’ll get to properly judge the new order of the field. Thankfully according to my weather gadgets, it’s gonna be dry all weekend with just a bit of cloud around. No chance of rain though.

    your weather widgets tell you anything about sandstorms?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:18

    your weather widgets tell you anything about sandstorms?

    no wind, apparently.

  • me23/04/2009 at 16:18

    Bahrain will be an OK judge, but we’ll have to reassess things again 2 weeks later in Barcelona - that’s where all the new updates come in.

    agreed. we'll also have to asses who has the best '09 motorhome.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:18

    your weather widgets tell you anything about sandstorms?

    Erm......don't think so.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:18

    Bahrain will be an OK judge, but we’ll have to reassess things again 2 weeks later in Barcelona - that’s where all the new updates come in.

    True.

  • me23/04/2009 at 16:21

    your weather widgets tell you anything about sandstorms?

    Erm……don’t think so.

    allen tweeted earlier to say he thought it could be bad enough to stop the race. may be attention-seeking though?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:22

    allen tweeted earlier to say he thought it could be bad enough to stop the race. may be attention-seeking though?

    oh, come on, not again... :O

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 16:22

    Absolutly, sad to admit though.

    I’ll see after Turkey to see if I know what I’m on about

    We have to wait until the European races to see any improvement. BMW Sauber are not expecting much just now so they will probably get Robert to try the KERS for race as there is not much to loose. I have Robert in my Fantasy Racers, and I am saying this of the team I support (well last year). At least they have NOW dropped their diffuser appeal.

  • me23/04/2009 at 16:25

    oh, come on, not again… :O

    http://twitter.com/Jamesallenonf1/status/1593546265

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:27

    http://twitter.com/Jamesallenonf1/status/1593546265

    Yup, saw it - F1 2009 is attracting weather freaks of nature.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:31

    In non-F1 news: YAY! :D

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74723

  • cian23/04/2009 at 16:33

    In non-F1 news: YAY! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74723

    Hey all, and sweeet! :)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 16:33

    agreed. we’ll also have to asses who has the best ‘09 motorhome.

    The real competition in all of this.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 16:35

    #382 - Journeyer said:

    And you know that’s gonna be a Lotus or Redbull eh?

    Not necessarily - BMW have always built strong chassis.

    Doesn't adding lightness come at the expense of strength, rigidity and reliability?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:35

    Hey all, and sweeet!

    THAT save he made at Brands Hatch must have been one of the deciding factors :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:36

    Doesn’t adding lightness come at the expense of strength, rigidity and reliability?

    True, but when has BMW ever made a fragile car? That's not their thing. Light doesn't necessarily mean fragile.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 16:37

    Wht hope have I got of catching up if there's been over 350 comments since 10 o'clock this morning!

    Where's my "hand gestures" smiley?

  • cian23/04/2009 at 16:37

    THAT save he made at Brands Hatch must have been one of the deciding factors

    Yeah, that was totally awesome :) Hopefully some more Potato Neal rivallry this year

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:38

    Yeah, that was totally awesome Hopefully some more Potato Neal rivallry this year

    And Thompson's coming back in a Dynamics Civic! :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:38

    Wht hope have I got of catching up if there’s been over 350 comments since 10 o’clock this morning!

    I don't even try anymore. :D

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 16:39

    THAT save he made at Brands Hatch must have been one of the deciding factors :D

    One of the best pieces of driving I have ever seen. Also, it happened the day I got my iPhone so the video was a great way of showing it off to everyone!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:39

    And Thompson’s coming back in a Dynamics Civic! :D

    James Thompson? He's in BTCC now?

  • cian23/04/2009 at 16:40

    And Thompson’s coming back in a Dynamics Civic!

    Yup! We just need Muller to come back now!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 16:40

    James Thompson? He’s in BTCC now?

    Yup, he's taking over from Shedden, and Dynamics are looking at funding a 3rd car for him.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:41

    Yup, he’s taking over from Shedden, and Dynamics are looking at funding a 3rd car for him.

    We only have WTCC here... no fair! :P

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:42

    We only have WTCC here… no fair!

    Come, come to the good country.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:43

    Come, come to the good country.

    Tell Eurosport Asia that. :P

    Eurosport Asia - now there's a contradiction in terms. :D

  • cian23/04/2009 at 16:43

    Eurosport Asia - now there’s a contradiction in terms.

    lol :)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 16:53

    It's gotten quiet - I'll be off then. See ya in the morning. ;)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 16:55

    It’s gotten quiet - I’ll be off then. See ya in the morning. ;)

    Byeee

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 16:56

    night mr journeyer

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 16:56

    Woo, I found a decent Imola mod for rFactor. Another great track I wish was still in F1.

  • cian23/04/2009 at 16:58

    Woo, I found a decent Imola mod for rFactor. Another great track I wish was still in F1.

    Do you need a super hot computer to play rFactor?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:02

    cian: 23/04/2009 at 17:58:49

    Woo, I found a decent Imola mod for rFactor. Another great track I wish was still in F1.

    Do you need a super hot computer to play rFactor?

    I'd recommend one with a decent processor for a start.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:02

    I’d recommend one with a decent processor for a start.

    Over a decent graphics card?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:03

    Over a decent graphics card?

    Be fair, it's nothing without a processor that can get the best out of it.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 17:03

    Do you need a super hot computer to play rFactor?

    Nope, I play it on my MacBook. Doesn't run amazingly but it's certainly playable as long as I turn the graphics options down.

  • me23/04/2009 at 17:04

    re: the codemasters announcement:

    "Had a photographer taking close-up snaps of MP4-24 in the garage today - for the new Codemasters Formula 1 computer game..."

    [tweet]

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:04

    Be fair, it’s nothing without a processor that can get the best out of it.

    So, 2.0GHz Core2Duo and above?

  • cian23/04/2009 at 17:05

    Nope, I play it on my MacBook. Doesn’t run amazingly but it’s certainly playable as long as I turn the graphics options down.

    Ah cool. Was wondering if it was suitable for laptops. Might look into it so, Ive heard good things :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:05

    So, 2.0GHz Core2Duo and above?

    Yeah I'd definately say that's a start.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:05

    “Had a photographer taking close-up snaps of MP4-24 in the garage today - for the new Codemasters Formula 1 computer game…”

    Nice.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 17:06

    “Had a photographer taking close-up snaps of MP4-24 in the garage today - for the new Codemasters Formula 1 computer game…”

    Who's that from?

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:07

    Quad Core chips need to be more widely available and apps written to exploit multi core use - NOW! :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:07

    Who’s that from?

    Looks like a McLaren mechanic.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:08

    Who’s that from?

    odafone McLaren Mercedes Official Twitter Page

    "TheFifthDriver"

  • me23/04/2009 at 17:08

    Vodafone McLaren Mercedes Official Twitter Page

    “TheFifthDriver”

    not sure, i think i found them through amy.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:09

    Vodafone McLaren Mercedes Official Twitter Page

    “TheFifthDriver”

    not sure, i think i found them through amy.

    That's what the profile says

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 17:20

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/picture_free.php/dir/2009bah1/image/XPB_298485_HiRes-2

    Is anyone as worried about this as i am? New FIA armed guards keeping Ron out? :P

  • me23/04/2009 at 17:20

    That’s what the profile says

    right, sorry.

    ...i can read!

  • Gavin+Brown+(RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:22

    Woo, I found a decent Imola mod for rFactor. Another great track I wish was still in F1.

    Do you need a super hot computer to play rFactor?

    Well mine is from 2006 and runs it ok...

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:23

    Well mine is from 2006 and runs it ok…

    [whispers in Gavin's ear: "get a mac"]

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:24

    [whispers in Gavin's ear: "get a mac"]

    :D

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:24

    [whispers in Gavin's ear: "get a mac"]

    Don't do it, don't go to the other side.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:25

    Don’t do it, don’t go to the other side.

    Come to the dark side, we have biscuits!

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:25

    Come to the dark side, we have biscuits!

    we have cupcakes

  • Gavin+Brown+(RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:25

    Well mine is from 2006 and runs it ok…

    [whispers in Gavin's ear: "get a mac"]

    I have spent 500 quid on a monitor and a G25 and I'd like to keep using them :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:26

    I have spent 500 quid on a monitor and a G25 and I’d like to keep using them

    Woo! G25! :D

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:27

    I have spent 500 quid on a monitor and a G25 and I’d like to keep using them :)

    No reason why you can't still, with 2 operating systems if you wish

    One good one & Windows!

  • Gavin+Brown+(RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:28

    I have spent 500 quid on a monitor and a G25 and I’d like to keep using them

    Woo! G25! :D

    Exactly. I need a PC to keep playing with it!

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:28

    One good one & Windows!

    Windows & Windows?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:28

    test

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:28

    Exactly. I need a PC to keep playing with it!

    No, not really

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:29

    Windows & Windows?

    Ignorance is bliss, eh RG?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:30

    Exactly. I need a PC to keep playing with it!

    No, not really

    I don't want the hassle of using emulators - they never work properly!

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:30

    Ignorance is bliss, eh RG?

    ;) I like what I like and don't like what I don't like

  • me23/04/2009 at 17:30

    totally off-topic, but in case you missed it, christine blogged yesterday about the BoL podcast and today she got this response.

    'scuse me while i pick myself up off the floor!

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:31

    I don’t want the hassle of using emulators - they never work properly!

    Emulators?

    You can run both operating systems in parallel on a mac, with ease

    Like switching user profiles

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:31

    I don’t want the hassle of using emulators - they never work properly!

    Emulators?

    You can run both operating systems in parallel on a mac, with ease

    Like switching user profiles

    You what? Really? Like, proper windows?

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:32

    ;) I like what I like and don’t like what I don’t like

    Liking is your choice my friend, but when you say it's good... :D :D :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 17:32

    You what? Really? Like, proper windows?

    yup.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:32

    You what? Really? Like, proper windows?

    Yup

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:33

    http://www.parallels.com/uk/

    or

    http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:33

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/04/their-name-is-lola-they-are-race-team.html

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:33

    Liking is your choice my friend, but when you say it’s good… :D :D :D

    When Apple give me my three hours back, I'll consider them

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:34

    When Apple give me my three hours back, I’ll consider them

    You're not worthy ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 17:34

    http://www.parallels.com/uk/

    or

    http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/

    eh? nooo. that's an emulator.

    gavin needs:

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:35

    eh? nooo. that’s an emulator.

    'pologies

    Thanks Mr C

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:35

    totally off-topic, but in case you missed it, christine blogged yesterday about the BoL podcast and today she got this response.

    ’scuse me while i pick myself up off the floor!

    That's cool!

    I totally agree with Christine with that article - I started listening as Molly Wood was 'leaving' so I only know Natali. I think she's a really good host and very good at what she does. Every now and then she appears on the 404 podcast, which is three guys goofing around - and she shows off quite a fun side too!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:37

    http://www.parallels.com/uk/

    or

    http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/

    eh? nooo. that’s an emulator.

    gavin needs:

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html

    Sounds interesting. The stumbling block now is that I have just bought a fantastic 24" Monitor that I will be reluctant to get rid of... D'oh!

  • me23/04/2009 at 17:38

    Sounds interesting. The stumbling block now is that I have just bought a fantastic 24" Monitor that I will be reluctant to get rid of… D’oh!

    24" monitors work with macs too.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:38

    You’re not worthy ;)

    I don't really care ;) If they are so good then their marketing department must be failing them.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:38

    Don't know if a Mac Mini would be up to your needs but worth considering

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 17:39

    People! We made the Wetpaint 500! Number 427!!

  • me23/04/2009 at 17:40

    People! We made the Wetpaint 500! Number 427!!

    this is the best day ever!

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:40

    People! We made the Wetpaint 500! Number 427!!

    *Goes mad - Like Ferrari before they found out Hamilton had finished 5th

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)23/04/2009 at 17:40

    People! We made the Wetpaint 500! Number 427!!

    Is that a NASCAR race or something?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:40

    People! We made the Wetpaint 500! Number 427!!

    That's great! But that means passing 426 cars in 250 laps to win.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:41

    I don’t really care ;) If they are so good then their marketing department must be failing them.

    I reckon the marketing is doing ok

    Just announced a quarterly profit of $1.21 billion and market share is still rising. And businesses aren't avoiding their latest software cos it's crap

  • Dom23/04/2009 at 17:42

    this is the best day ever!

    A Thursday? Surely not... ;)

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:42

    I reckon the marketing is doing ok

    As in making it intresting. As I said the other night, 3 hours of watching demos isn't fun.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:42

    Remember if you want to be on this weeks panel

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Next+Week's+Panellists

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 17:44

    Remember if you want to be on this weeks panel

    Added myself not long ago, feel like joining in this week :)

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:45

    As in making it intresting. As I said the other night, 3 hours of watching demos isn’t fun.

    Watching demos of IT is never interesting

    Get hands on and judge for yourself

    http://www.hotfroguk.co.uk/Companies/AT-Computers-Newcastle-Branch

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:46

    Watching demos of IT is never interesting

    It wasn't that though, they had promised us hands on approach to try it ourselve. They didn't deliver

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 17:46

    It wasn’t that though, they had promised us hands on approach to try it ourselve. They didn’t deliver

    But thanks for the link

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 17:47

    According to the doohickey, I'm at 73 comments today already ;)

  • Rich23/04/2009 at 17:47

    You what? Really? Like, proper windows?

    yup.

    Yes we run labs use Macs running both OS X and Windows using Bootcamp (it is a Windows machine but you need a Windows license). The Window Labs are always more work to maintain than the Mac labs as I have to run both.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 17:48

    So, 13 and a bit hours till FP1

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:04

    This is why I use virtualr.net for my racing game news - pics of F1 2009! :D

    http://www.virtualr.net/f1-2009-psp-wii-only/

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 18:04

    This is why I use virtualr.net for my racing game news - pics of F1 2009! :D

    http://www.virtualr.net/f1-2009-psp-wii-only/

    didn't you post a preview of the game from IGN this morning? The same screenshots were on there then

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 18:05

    didn’t you post a preview of the game from IGN this morning? The same screenshots were on there then

    They say, via IGN, at the bottom as well

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:06

    didn’t you post a preview of the game from IGN this morning? The same screenshots were on there then

    No, I posted the initial Autosport story.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:08

    Ross Brawn:

    "As the first four grands prix take place over just a five-week period, it has been an intense and demanding start to the season for the Brawn GP team."

    You think it hasn't been for us as well?!

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 18:08

    No, I posted the initial Autosport story.

    Ah... someone posted a preview on IGN not long after that and it had the screenies there too. As RG said, looks like thats where they got them from anyway :)

    It's the Wii so I'm not really taking much into the graphics but I'll still pick the game up. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:09

    It’s the Wii so I’m not really taking much into the graphics but I’ll still pick the game up.

    What F1 and gaming fan wouldn't?! The Wii version with the Wheel will be awesome.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:10

    It’s the Wii so I’m not really taking much into the graphics but I’ll still pick the game up.

    Those screenshots have to be the PSP version so I wouldn't worry about it, the graphics will still be OK.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 18:10

    What F1 and gaming fan wouldn’t?! The Wii version with the Wheel will be awesome.

    Wow, never even thought of the mario kart wheel :o even better!

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 18:11

    Those screenshots have to be the PSP version so I wouldn’t worry about it, the graphics will still be OK.

    Codemasters on the forum have said its Wii WIP graphics

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:12

    Here's an example of a graphically demanding racing game on the Wii - Need For Speed Carbon

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za3qHbCloRc

    Still looks good to me!

    Codemasters on the forum have said its Wii WIP graphics

    Those screenshots are of the Wii version?! Don't and won't believe it!

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 18:12

    Those screenshots are of the Wii version?! Don’t and won’t believe it!

    Gimme a tic

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 18:14

    Gimme a tic

    http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5130624&postcount=11

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:14

    How do I add an F1 Minute widget to my blog? :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:15

    RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo: 23/04/2009 at 19:14:34

    Gimme a tic

    http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5130624&postcount=11

    Christ on a bike...

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 18:15

    Those screenshots are of the Wii version?! Don’t and won’t believe it!

    Very early shots. I wouldn't expect much though, they have said they are going to make sure it runs at a smooth 60fps rather than bump up the graphics so much it starts dropping frames. A wise move if you ask me, frame rate is vital in a racing game.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 18:15

    How do I add an F1 Minute widget to my blog? :)

    You know the code for F1 minute on that site, the gadget go to add your own code/xml something like that, then paste the code into there.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 18:19

    Those screenshots are of the Wii version?! Don’t and won’t believe it!

    Also, I'm pretty sure the shot with the track position graphics and stuff is from the PSP.

  • me23/04/2009 at 18:24

    Also, I’m pretty sure the shot with the track position graphics and stuff is from the PSP.

    did i miss something chris, or did you say something about a blog post earlier?

  • me23/04/2009 at 18:30
  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:30

    can’t seem to post comments on yer blog scott?

    Really? Strange. I'll see what I can do.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 18:31

    can’t seem to post comments on yer blog scott?

    I ahd this problem on my blog the other night on blogspot, maybe try changing the settings to make the comment window appear as a popup window. That worked for me.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:32

    Ah, I got it - click the number of comments, and at the bottom it has the option to post comments. Or is it something else?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:33

    Ah, I got it - click the number of comments, and at the bottom it has the option to post comments. Or is it something else?

    Ah, just tried to post something and nothing happens. Now I see. Maybe I need another template...

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 18:33

    Ah, just tried to post something and nothing happens. Now I see. Maybe I need another template…

    Its the settings, as Lukeh says, change to a popup comment box

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:34

    Its the settings, as Lukeh says, change to a popup comment box

    Done, try now?

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 18:39

    Done, try now?

    I can go to post comments now :)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 18:45

    did i miss something chris, or did you say something about a blog post earlier?

    I'm working on it, I'm working on it. :P I'll post a link when it's up.

  • me23/04/2009 at 18:46

    I’m working on it, I’m working on it. :P I’ll post a link when it’s up.

    ahh cool. ta.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 18:53

    Damn it, I can't change that banner picture scene thing at the top of my blog. Just tried but it didn't work :(

  • Kathi23/04/2009 at 18:56

    Jaunty up and running. I hope it stays that way :)

  • me23/04/2009 at 18:57

    Jaunty up and running. I hope it stays that way :)

    upgrade or fresh install?

  • Kathi23/04/2009 at 18:57

    upgrade or fresh install?

    upgrade

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 18:58

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/04/their-name-is-lola-they-are-race-team.html

    looking at their '95 F1 car....you can tell they make F3 cars....the roll hoop is the same

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:00

    upgrade

    very brave. why the upgrade out of interest?

  • Kathi23/04/2009 at 19:00

    very brave. why the upgrade out of interest?

    because it was there :)

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:03

    because it was there :)

    it's only been out for about 4 hours!!

    *picks self up from floor for second time this evening*

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:05

    *picks self up from floor for second time this evening*

    What happened the first time? Been drinking again?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 19:07

    looking at their ‘95 F1 car….you can tell they make F3 cars….the roll hoop is the same

    The engine cover has Champ Car written all over it.

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:07

    What happened the first time? Been drinking again?

    meh. haven't had a drink since last wednesday due to reliance on sudafed.

    did i mention i was dying btw?

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 19:07

    The engine cover has Champ Car written all over it.

    Didn't they make champ cars?

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 19:08

    *picks self up from floor for second time this evening*

    What happened the first time? Been drinking again?

    if it was drink it would be Christine picking him up off the floor :P

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 19:08

    Didn’t they make champ cars?

    Yup, supplied CC right until 2007 when Panoz took over.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 19:09

    did i mention i was dying btw?

    I thought you said you were feeling a bit better a couple of days ago?

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 19:09

    did i mention i was dying btw?

    You are only still dying in the same sense that Gavin is still suffering from the ammonia fumes.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 19:09

    Less than half a million to go

    http://www.apple.com/uk/

    (That's over 5 million in the last 24hrs)

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:10

    I thought you said you were feeling a bit better a couple of days ago?

    i am. but i was dead back then. this is an improvement.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:10

    did i mention i was dying btw?

    once or twice.

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:11

    You are only still dying in the same sense that Gavin is still suffering from the ammonia fumes.

    get well soon gavin.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 19:11

    i am. but i was dead back then. this is an improvement.

    Fancy a Sambucca then?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 19:11

    i am. but i was dead back then. this is an improvement.

    To what? Life support machine? ;)

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 19:12

    You are only still dying in the same sense that Gavin is still suffering from the ammonia fumes.

    get well soon gavin.

    :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:13

    Fancy a Sambucca then?

    what are we celebrating.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 19:13

    what are we celebrating.

    You want a reason...?

    Yeah, you're still unwell

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 19:14

    what are we celebrating.

    erm, the fact your still alive

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 19:14

    what are we celebrating.

    you not being dead

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:14

    :D

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 19:15

    That has got to be the post with the fewest characters in it, ever.

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:16

    That has got to be the post with the fewest characters in it, ever.

    the problem with doohickey is i can't quote from three comments. and i couldn't be arsed to move to lclt. it was a global smiley for all.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:17

    the problem with doohickey is i can’t quote from three comments. and i couldn’t be arsed to move to lclt. it was a global smiley for all.

    copy and paste?

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:17

    copy and paste?

    rats!

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 19:18

    copy and paste?

    Two buttons at once?

    The man's not well, think of the exertion ;)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:18

    rats!

    you know what they say, you learn something new every day.

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 19:19

    Hey! Thanks to whoever put up the Season with McLaren video files (and I an guessing it was Flibster - ta matey )

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 19:20

    and now to celebrate (and follow a trend - I think the pub!

    What time is FP1 tomorrow? 9 isnt it?

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:20

    The man’s not well, think of the exertion ;)

    :D :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:21

    What time is FP1 tomorrow? 9 isnt it?

    which timezone?

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/04/23/bahrain-schedule/

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 19:22

    What time is FP1 tomorrow? 9 isnt it?

    8am in UK

  • Spikey23/04/2009 at 19:23

    which timezone? my brain hurts......lol

    8am - ta!

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:25

    quick, whilst christine's not looking... some sidepodnostalgia:

    our first ever circuit preview

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 19:26

    quick, whilst christine’s not looking… some sidepodnostalgia:

    Kill me now.

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:26

    Kill me now.

    bugger.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 19:27

    bugger.

    :D

  • Kathi23/04/2009 at 19:27

    Hey! Thanks to whoever put up the Season with McLaren video files

    You're welcome

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:28

    Kill me now.

    Wow, you look about 12!

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 19:28

    Wow, you look about 12!

    Whichever way you look at it, that's not a compliment. ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:29

    Whichever way you look at it, that’s not a compliment. ;)

    heeeh!

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 19:29

    Wow, you look about 12!

    If thats twelve, I must be six

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 19:30

    If thats twelve, I must be six

    That looks rather bad written down actually.

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:34

    what i find interesting, is if you watch last year's preview, although you can see it's much better quality, it's actually less useful to watch now because it's full of references to 2008.

    the 2007 video was just a lap, and given the circuit hasn't changed, it seems to have aged better.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 19:35

    the 2007 video was just a lap, and given the circuit hasn’t changed, it seems to have aged better.

    It's like a fine wine - gets better with age ;)

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 19:37

    what i find interesting, is if you watch last year’s preview, although you can see it’s much better quality, it’s actually less useful to watch now because it’s full of references to 2008.

    That was your idea.

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:37

    That was your idea.

    my bad.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:43

    Whichever way you look at it, that’s not a compliment. ;)

    No, I didn't..... I'm sure if you.... look at...... when..... with the......

    No, you're right, no compliments there.

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:46

    more from donington on twitter, no idea how reliable but they were correct last time:

    "It really sounds gloomy at the moment. Apparently contractors walked offsite 2 weeks ago because of backpay due. Hopefully local devt agency will offer support but whether it can be enough or in time is a different story."

    [tweet]

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 19:47

    No, I didn’t….. I’m sure if you…. look at…… when….. with the……

    No, you’re right, no compliments there.

    :D

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 19:47

    more from donington on twitter, no idea how reliable but they were correct last time:

    So is Bernie laughing all the way home or will contract move back to Silvy?

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 19:48

    So is Bernie laughing all the way home or will contract move back to Silvy?

    If silverstone get the gp back i will eat my hat (its made of chocolate ;) )

  • me23/04/2009 at 19:49

    So is Bernie laughing all the way home or will contract move back to Silvy?

    either way he's laughing. to quote frank williams from december...

    "silverstone don't think they've lost it by a long way."

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 19:49

    So is Bernie laughing all the way home or will contract move back to Silvy?

    Bernie says that if Donington doesn't make it in time, he's not afraid of scrapping the British GP altogether.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 19:50

    Bernie says that if Donington doesn’t make it in time, he’s not afraid of scrapping the British GP altogether.

    I wish i could talk to him, he can't say he's pro british gp and then get rid of it

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 19:53

    I wish i could talk to him, he can’t say he’s pro british gp and then get rid of it

    From Autosport article:

    "Ecclestone has warned several times before that if Donington Park cannot get the track ready in time for the 2010 race then the British GP will be dropped from the calendar..."

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 19:54

    Ecclestone has warned several times before that if Donington Park cannot get the track ready in time for the 2010 race then the British GP will be dropped from the calendar

    It makes me SO (AUTOSPORT stylé) angry

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:55

    Ecclestone has warned several times before that if Donington Park cannot get the track ready in time for the 2010 race then the British GP will be dropped from the calendar

    He's wanted rid of the British GP for years. Giving it to Donington was the perfect way of doing it.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 19:57

    He’s wanted rid of the British GP for years. Giving it to Donington was the perfect way of doing it.

    apparently he knew what he was doing :(

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:57

    F1 2009 trailer now online

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 19:58

    apparently he knew what he was doing :(

    Bernie's not stupid

    Senile, but not stupid

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 19:59

    F1 2009 trailer now online

    Well that's a whole load of nothing.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:00

    Well that’s a whole load of nothing.

    Ditto. What a waste of my 44 seconds.

    Almost as pointless as that F1 news show that doesn't know Lola, like why are they there as well?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:00

    Well that’s a whole load of nothing.

    At least there's a website www.formula1-game.com

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 20:00

    Well that’s a whole load of nothing.

    was just thinking exactly that :(

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:00

    Well that’s a whole load of nothing.

    it's a better trailer than the bbc's though.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:00

    At least there’s a website www.formula1-game.com

    Which is also a whole load of nothing.

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:01

    Almost as pointless as that F1 news show that doesn’t know Lola, like why are they there as well?

    them? pah, already unsubscribed.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 20:01

    Which is also a whole load of nothing.

    that really is a pointless website, i hate coming soon websites I WANT IT NOW!

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:02

    was just thinking exactly that :(

    Most games seem to have trailers like that nowadays. We will probably get gameplay footage at E3.

    it’s a better trailer than the bbc’s though.

    It's quite similar actually.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:02

    them? pah, already unsubscribed.

    :D

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:02

    Most games seem to have trailers like that nowadays. We will probably get gameplay footage at E3.

    But thats in June. Like Jon, I WANT IT NOW!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:04

    I've signed up to the game site, so any updates will get e-mails straight to me.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:04

    But thats in June. Like Jon, I WANT IT NOW!

    The 360/PS3 game in 2010 will be worth the wait. It always is with Codemasters.

    The outside developed Wii version? Not so sure.....

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 20:06

    The 360/PS3 game in 2010 will be worth the wait. It always is with Codemasters.

    But i don't have a PS3/360 or a PC that will support it! BOO

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:08

    But i don’t have a PS3/360 or a PC that will support it! BOO

    By 2010 it'll be windows 7 only and the PS3 will be almost obsolete :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:09

    By 2010 it’ll be windows 7 only and the PS3 will be almost obsolete

    Yeah because the PS4 will be out. And the XBOX 720.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 20:09

    Just saying 'hi' in today's daily, before going off to catch up on the last couple...

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:10

    Hey Pat

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:10

    Yeah because the PS4 will be out. And the XBOX 720.

    May as well call it XBOX Red Ring

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:10

    But i don’t have a PS3/360 or a PC that will support it! BOO

    Start saving then, 360s are dirt cheap now, let alone next year.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:11

    Yeah because the PS4 will be out. And the XBOX 720.

    Hah, not a chance!

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 20:11

    May as well call it XBOX Red Ring

    :(

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:11

    Hah, not a chance!

    Well alright, not for another 3 or 4 years.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:13

    Well alright, not for another 3 or 4 years.

    2

    Tops

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:14

    Blu Ray has no future in a 100MB+ Broadband world

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:14

    Well alright, not for another 3 or 4 years.

    The next Xbox will probably be announced in 2010. It's easy to forget that it's been out for three and a half years already.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 20:16

    Guys, can I put in a request for some more followers for my blog? I only have one, so any more would be appreciated :)

    (from the 21st but putting it in today's so I don't get told off ;-) )

    Just to confirm what others said/suggested, this is a new Blogger-only "feature" which hardly anyone bothers with. I'd recommend FeedBurner instead but I think Google ruined it.

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:19

    Just to confirm what others said/suggested, this is a new Blogger-only “feature” which hardly anyone bothers with. I’d recommend FeedBurner instead but I think Google ruined it.

    feedburner's fine if you follow the migration instructions. or better yet, just create a new account.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 20:24

    Guys, can I put in a request for some more followers for my blog? I only have one, so any more would be appreciated :)

    Hello, just bacl online after a busy day .. not had time to check on 400 comments yet :doh: .. who's blog is this?

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 20:24

    Yay Autoblog. How does one cure and harden the fibre without a large autoclave? A kiln? Chemicals?

    You need temperature and pressure so a kiln won't cure it properly. He would need either a small autoclave or a hot press. You can pick up hot hydraulic presses for buttons nowadays.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:24

    Hello, just bacl online after a busy day .. not had time to check on 400 comments yet :doh: .. who’s blog is this?

    F1 Wafffler....

    Its Scotty's blog, Zerodownforce.blogspot.com

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:24

    Hello, just bacl online after a busy day .. not had time to check on 400 comments yet :doh: .. who’s blog is this?

    Moi's :)

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:25

    F1 Wafffler….

    :D

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 20:25

    Moi’s :)

    Ah thanks Scott will check in with a comment later .. got to go reassemble my bed (don't ask!)

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:26

    Fake Buemi:

    "Should I get an early night before practice, or chase Seb Bourdais taunting him that he's going to get kicked out soon... hmmmm decisions"

    :D

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 20:28

    Just came in to say hi.......don't really have anything particular to say.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 20:28

    Just came in to say hi…….don’t really have anything particular to say.

    Howdy :)

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:29

    Hey Joe

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 20:30

    Hi Joe.

    Quick thanks to Ollie for those Blogger templates the other day, I shall bookmark and explore later :-)

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 20:32

    Hi Joe.

    Quick thanks to Ollie for those Blogger templates the other day, I shall bookmark and explore later :-)

    They were indeed very helpful :)

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:33

    They were indeed very helpful :)

    a bit blue maybe?

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 20:34

    a bit blue maybe?

    Yeha there was a bit of blue in the templates I suppose. Nothing in poarticular.

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:34

    Yeha there was a bit of blue in the templates I suppose. Nothing in poarticular.

    ;)

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 20:34

    a bit blue maybe?

    Blue, really? .. I never noticed ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:38

    Blue, really? .. I never noticed ;)

    there wasn't a particular one that stood out, no.

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 20:42

    What about Scott;s place .. are you going to change the header?

    Sorry but right now I think "over the hills and far away, tellytubbies come out to play" :blush:

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:42

    Less than 100,000 to go.....

    http://www.apple.com/uk/

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:43

    What about Scott;s place .. are you going to change the header? Sorry but right now I think “over the hills and far away, tellytubbies come out to play” :blush:

    I tried earlier, but it didn't work. :(

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:43

    Less than 100,000 to go…..

    http://www.apple.com/uk/

    Refresh your page, around 40,000

  • Jackie23/04/2009 at 20:44

    I tried earlier, but it didn’t work. :(

    Sorry :(

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:44

    I tried earlier, but it didn’t work. :(

    You are changing at the right place. I mean you might have to change it through the code

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:44

    Refresh your page, around 40,000

    Oh yeah!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:44

    You are changing at the right place. I mean you might have to change it through the code

    What do I need to do? I'm no good with code.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:45

    Less than 100,000 to go…..

    http://www.apple.com/uk/

    Enter without purchase link:

    http://www.apple.com/uk/itunes/billion-app-countdown/entryform/

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 20:45

    You are changing at the right place. I mean you might have to change it through the code

    This is an idea, look for where the header links too in the code, create your own image of the same dimensions the current hills picture is, and swap the links over after youve uploaded a new image maybe?

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:45

    Enter without purchase link:

    http://www.apple.com/uk/itunes/billion-app-countdown/entryform/

    I've done about 10 today and have 5 more tabs loaded up

    [max 25 entries per day]

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 20:46

    I’ve done about 10 today and have 5 more tabs loaded up

    [max 25 entries per day]

    im doing it right now :D

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 20:48

    Apple store will sell its billionth app in the next half hour. The lucky person wins loads of goodies

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:48

    This is an idea, look for where the header links too in the code, create your own image of the same dimensions the current hills picture is, and swap the links over after youve uploaded a new image maybe?

    I already made the image, just hosting it on Imageshack.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:49

    im doing it right now :D

    Just waiting for the right time.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:49

    Apple store will sell its billionth app in the next half hour. The lucky person wins loads of goodies

    About 5 - 10 mins more like

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:49

    About 5 - 10 mins more like

    Actually less, keep refreshing

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 20:49

    Apple store will sell its billionth app in the next half hour. The lucky person wins loads of goodies

    I thought it was that everyone who bought an app gets entered, not the billionth who wins!?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:50

    OK, how does it look now? :D

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:51

    OK, how does it look now? :D

    Niiice, now its the turn of getting rid of that boring Zero Downforce.

    Maybe make the text on the FI car bigger?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:52

    Oh, 1 billion. That was an anti-climax.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:52

    Oh, 1 billion. That was an anti-climax.

    I've got 7k to go.

    Damn.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 20:53

    Niiice, now its the turn of getting rid of that boring Zero Downforce.

    I know, I tried but I have to have a blog name entered so it has to be there as far as I can see.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:53

    I’ve got 7k to go.

    I hit refresh and it went from 30k to done.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:55

    I hit refresh and it went from 30k to done.

    I was expecting fireworks to explode from the side of my laptop and a crowd cheering

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:55

    Oh, 1 billion. That was an anti-climax.

    I’ve got 7k to go.

    Damn.

    Windows fanboys aren't invited, did you not read the small print? ;)

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 20:55

    That's it. SO glad I wached it

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:56

    bahrain preview podcast from christine:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/04/23/f1-digest-2009-bahrain-preview/

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 20:56

    Oohh, doing my daily check of James Allen's blog and he has a post about Codemasters revealing details on the F1 game. Didn't know they'd done it already.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:56

    Windows fanboys aren’t invited, did you not read the small print? ;)

    I'm not a Windows fanboy, I'm a Mac hater.

    Which is exactly the same so I'll shut up

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:56

    I was expecting fireworks to explode from the side of my laptop and a crowd cheering

    A fanfare at the very least.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:56

    That’s it. SO glad I wached it

    Watching?

    I was too busy submitting online entry forms :)

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:57

    bahrain preview podcast from christine:

    MORE? How can I cope with more?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 20:57

    Oohh, doing my daily check of James Allen’s blog and he has a post about Codemasters revealing details on the F1 game. Didn’t know they’d done it already.

    Yup. It's great news if you only have a Wii or a PSP.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:57

    Yup. It’s great news if you only have a Wii or a PSP.

    Its a good time to own a Wii and a PSP. And nothing else noteworthy.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 20:58

    $10,000 iTunes voucher would buy 12650 songs. Thats mental!

  • littlepurplegoth23/04/2009 at 20:58

    I thought it was that everyone who bought an app gets entered, not the billionth who wins!?

    Yep - and some of us aren't eligible anyway :-(

    Not that I was particularly bothered anyway, but still ....

  • me23/04/2009 at 20:58

    MORE? How can I cope with more?

    oops.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 20:59

    oops.

    Its Sidepodcast, its all good.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 20:59

    $10,000 iTunes voucher would buy 12650 songs. Thats mental!

    17" MacBook Pro = £1,949.00

    Sell iTunes Voucher on ebay for £3000?

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 20:59

    I like how Fifa 09 is popular in the Allen home. James certainly mentions it a lot.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 21:00

    Yep - and some of us aren’t eligiable anyway :-(

    Apple employees & their families :(

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 21:01

    I like how Fifa 09 is popular in the Allen home. James certainly mentions it a lot.

    Does he turn the telly down and do voiceovers.

    He shoots

    And scores

    The crowd....... cheers

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:02

    I like how Fifa 09 is popular in the Allen home. James certainly mentions it a lot.

    Bah, he would be a FIFA player.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 21:02

    The crowd……. cheers

    A flag raised for offside as the crowd jeer on...

    Suggestive language directed... at the referee...

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:02

    Bassano Clapper: 23/04/2009 at 22:01:32

    I like how Fifa 09 is popular in the Allen home. James certainly mentions it a lot.

    Does he turn the telly down and do voiceovers.

    He shoots

    And scores

    The crowd……. cheers

    :D

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:03

    Suggestive language directed… at the referee…

    A hand gesture....

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 21:03

    I thought it was that everyone who bought an app gets entered, not the billionth who wins!?

    "The prize will be awarded for the entry (either through an app download or through the non-purchase online entry) sent immediately following the download of the 999,999,999th app."

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 21:03

    A hand gesture….

    :D

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:04

    999,999,999th app.”

    I'd hate to be that person

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:04

    Does he turn the telly down and do voiceovers.

    Well the commentary on it is such a disappointment on previous years excellent work (in my opinion of course) that I'd much prefer James doing it. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I'm liking it.

    AND WAYNE ROONEY...........SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORES!

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:05

    Bah, he would be a FIFA player.

    Haha. Elaborate :P

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:05

    Well the commentary on it is such a disappointment on previous years excellent work (in my opinion of course) that I’d much prefer James doing it. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I’m liking it.

    It's got Andy Gray on it, James Allen is lightyears better than him

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:05

    MORE? How can I cope with more?

    Store them up and listen when the F1 calendar isn't so crazy.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:06

    Haha. Elaborate :P

    Pro Evo is better than FIFA. People who prefer FIFA are deluded fools. James Allen plays FIFA.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:07

    It’s got Andy Gray on it, James Allen is lightyears better than him

    Thank christ, someone agrees with me on that!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:07

    MORE? How can I cope with more?

    Trust me, I think we're all asking exactly the same thing. This start to the season really has taken it out of me. Never thought I'd say it but thank god it's every 2 weeks from Barcelona onwards.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 21:07

    Pro Evo is better than FIFA. People who prefer FIFA are deluded fools. James Allen plays FIFA.

    *weeps*

    :(

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:08

    *weeps*

    I stand by my statement.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:08

    *weeps*

    Can I join you?

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:08

    Pro Evo is better than FIFA. People who prefer FIFA are deluded fools. James Allen plays FIFA.

    I played Fifa up until PES 5 came out, then I played both. After Fifa 07 I was beginning to get fed up of Fifa's same crap, but 09 has got me really playing it again. I've not played a PES since 6. The gameplay for Pro Evo has and I'm sure still is ahead of Fifa, but Fifa's always been ahead on everything else, for me.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 21:08

    Can I join you?

    Come, let us wallow in the sea of despair now that we are in the same boat as James Allen. :(

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:09

    *weeps*

    Hey, that was you a few years ago.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:09

    Thank christ, someone agrees with me on that!

    If I get to punch one person in the face, he would be that man. Thats ahead of Bernie, Max, etc.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 21:09

    And I have Joe to back me up, you could've asked me 3 years ago about FIFA and I absolutely hated it. Now it's turned around full circle.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:09

    Trust me, I think we’re all asking exactly the same thing. This start to the season really has taken it out of me. Never thought I’d say it but thank god it’s every 2 weeks from Barcelona onwards.

    This is why sidpodsize podcasts are a good thing. They are easy to keep up to date with. I've got 3 x 2h Midweek Motorsport plus the one they did last night. I have no idea when I'll be able to catch up with those.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 21:10

    (turned around full circle with PES and FIFA I mean, used to love PES etc)

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:11

    And I have Joe to back me up, you could’ve asked me 3 years ago about FIFA and I absolutely hated it. Now it’s turned around full circle.

    Yep, I got bored of the game pretty easily and played Pro Evo on the PSP, which was miles better. Now though, its very good.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:11

    I played Fifa up until PES 5 came out, then I played both. After Fifa 07 I was beginning to get fed up of Fifa’s same crap, but 09 has got me really playing it again. I’ve not played a PES since 6. The gameplay for Pro Evo has and I’m sure still is ahead of Fifa, but Fifa’s always been ahead on everything else, for me.

    FIFA is more realistic, but sadly realism doesn't equal fun. I really tried to like FIFA this year, but after Pro Evo it feels like playing football in treacle.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:12

    FIFA is more realistic, but sadly realism doesn’t equal fun. I really tried to like FIFA this year, but after Pro Evo it feels like playing football in treacle.

    Fair enough. Like I said, I've not played a current-gen PES, but I'll get the 09 demo sometime. Wouldn't be surprised if the gameplay was still better than Fifa.

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:13

    Store them up and listen when the F1 calendar isn’t so crazy.

    this one's kinda time sensitive.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:14

    Fair enough. Like I said, I’ve not played a current-gen PES, but I’ll get the 09 demo sometime. Wouldn’t be surprised if the gameplay was still better than Fifa.

    FIFA is at it's best since '98 so in a year or two it will probably be the best. Pro Evo has really stagnated the last few years.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:14

    this one’s kinda time sensitive.

    In what way?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:15

    this one’s kinda time sensitive.

    Stockroom entertainment for me tomorrow then!

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:15

    In what way?

    there's not much point listening to a bahrain preview podcast on monday.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:15

    FIFA is at it’s best since ‘98 so in a year or two it will probably be the best. Pro Evo has really stagnated the last few years.

    The competition's good.Maybe we could do with the same on the F1 front, that did happen in 2000, 2001 and 2002. I'll be happy just to get one game though.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:15

    there’s not much point listening to a bahrain preview podcast on monday.

    Doesn't bother me.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:17

    there’s not much point listening to a bahrain preview podcast on monday.

    I find it interesting post-event to hear what was being said beforehand. I'm still seven weeks behind on Autosport magazines, 4 weeks behind on MWM podcasts. As I long as I get the info at some stage I don't mind when it is.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:17

    The competition’s good.Maybe we could do with the same on the F1 front, that did happen in 2000, 2001 and 2002. I’ll be happy just to get one game though.

    No point, nobody will ever beat Codies when it comes to racing games!

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:17

    No point, nobody will ever beat Codies when it comes to racing games!

    ISI?

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:18

    I find it interesting post-event to hear what was being said beforehand. I’m still seven weeks behind on Autosport magazines, 4 weeks behind on MWM podcasts. As I long as I get the info at some stage I don’t mind when it is.

    that would totally do my head in :)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:19

    ISI?

    Ok, console racing games.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:20

    I find it interesting post-event to hear what was being said beforehand. I’m still seven weeks behind on Autosport magazines, 4 weeks behind on MWM podcasts. As I long as I get the info at some stage I don’t mind when it is.

    that would totally do my head in :)

    Whereas I can't do all of this "must!have!it!now!" stuff. :-)

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 21:20

    I find it interesting post-event to hear what was being said beforehand. I’m still seven weeks behind on Autosport magazines, 4 weeks behind on MWM podcasts. As I long as I get the info at some stage I don’t mind when it is.

    I agree.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:20

    that would totally do my head in :)

    I often listen to 3 or 4 days F1 Minute podcasts in a row. I end up hearing news I already know but I do it anyway for some reason.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:22

    I often listen to 3 or 4 days F1 Minute podcasts in a row. I end up hearing news I already know but I do it anyway for some reason.

    I like to listen to a week in one go, largely because I'm not well-drilled enough to listen daily. A whole tonne of news in 7 minutes. :-)

    I mean this is the whole point of archiving it, isn't it? Otherwise it would only be online for a day or two.

  • Christine23/04/2009 at 21:22

    I like to listen to a week in one go, largely because I’m not well-drilled enough to listen daily. A whole tonne of news in 7 minutes. :-)

    I mean this is the whole point of archiving it, isn’t it? Otherwise it would only be online for a day or two.

    That, and I think so people can look back in years to come just to wind me up :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:23

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/04/so-you-wanna-be-virtual-racing-driver.html

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:25

    I can totally see why people go for the now-now-now though. I used to be the same in my F1-only days. Then I started getting interested in other series and found all those team and driver stories just as engaging as F1 and it became too much to follow all at once, it was impossible. So these days I'll take the info when I can. It's all good. It's like hearing a contemporary report of a race 10 years ago, getting the vibe for what was going on as it was, instead of reading a report written yesterday.

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:27

    i can do looking back over a long period. maybe 3 months or more. but if i didn't hear that digest show before the start of fp1 i probably wouldn't listen. simply because the action has moved on by such a degree.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:28

    i can do looking back over a long period. maybe 3 months or more. but if i didn’t hear that digest show before the start of fp1 i probably wouldn’t listen. simply because the action has moved on by such a degree.

    Only if you watch FP1 live.

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:28

    Only if you watch FP1 live.

    i wouldn't miss fp1.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:29

    I mean how is it different to reading about the pre-race atmosphere in Autosport the next Thursday? It isn't.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:30

    Crikey, Doohickey says I'm on 109 comments today.

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:30

    I mean how is it different to reading about the pre-race atmosphere in Autosport the next Thursday? It isn’t.

    that's different because it's written post-race and the writer can thus chose to pick up on certain events, or not. depending on their significance.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:30

    I love long blog posts, like James' new one on Thursday in the paddock which I'm reading now.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:30

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/04/so-you-wanna-be-virtual-racing-driver.html

    I'd get rid of those tabs in the header as well, considering they have nothing to do with your site. Just delete em in the code.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:31

    I’d get rid of those tabs in the header as well, considering they have nothing to do with your site. Just delete em in the code.

    I'll go find 'em.

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:31

    Crikey, Doohickey says I’m on 109 comments today.

    that isn't getting annoying in the slightest.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:33

    that isn’t getting annoying in the slightest.

    Sorry. *feels embarrassed*

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:33

    While I think a budget cap of £30M is crazy, I hope it's not put at a figure which makes potential entrants think "That's too high for us". I know that even if it is at say, 80, it will probably come down. But I want teams in 2010, not 2012.

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:35

    Sorry. *feels embarrassed*

    tis okay. that's why i mentioned it.

    kind of like the countdown to 100,000 comments over christmas. you could increase the total by typing...

    999,997...

    999,998...

    999,999...

    but that isn't really the point of having a count.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:35

    I can't find on the HTML code the appropriate bits to delete to get rid of those links on the header.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:36

    but that isn’t really the point of having a count.

    Reminds me of a time as a mod, we were close to reaching a milestone and some people, mainly newbies, just posted things like '9434' next one '9435' etc. Its worthless and a pain to delete them, cos its wasting space on a forum specifically about that subject. (Not having a go at you Scott btw, its in general)

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:37

    I can’t find on the HTML code the appropriate bits to delete to get rid of those links on the header.

    Look for what one of the headers say and then find those words

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:38

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 21:39

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

    nope, milk is amazing

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:39

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

    odd, I should say

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:40

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

    Is this person, say, from somewhere other than the north?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:40

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

    Meh, I wouldn't think anything of it. You're entitled to drink what you like. I suggest you give him a weird look when he's eating Marmite or something, see how he likes it. ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:41

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

    depends if you're drinking their milk?

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 21:41

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

    mmmmmm milk

    gonna go get me some milk now.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 21:41

    nope, milk is amazing

    Totally agree, I'll often drink milk on it's own

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 21:42

    Meh, I wouldn’t think anything of it. You’re entitled to drink what you like. I suggest you give him a weird look when he’s eating Marmite or something, see how he likes it. ;)

    i like milk and marmite(not together)....does this mean im going to get uber wierd looks?

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:42

    While I think a budget cap of £30M is crazy, I hope it’s not put at a figure which makes potential entrants think “That’s too high for us”. I know that even if it is at say, 80, it will probably come down. But I want teams in 2010, not 2012.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:43

    Is this person, say, from somewhere other than the north?

    Yup, another midlander.

    depends if you’re drinking their milk?

    That would explain it, but no, it is definitely mine.

  • Bassano Clapper23/04/2009 at 21:43

    depends if you’re drinking their milk?

    Anyone sharing a kitchen at Uni: Put Blue food colouring in your milk, no ones likely to steal it, it really turns tea a very odd colour

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:43

    i like milk and marmite(not together)….does this mean im going to get uber wierd looks?

    Hell no! Perfectly normal in my opinion. Heck, I eat two bowls of cereal a day if I can help. Can never have too much calcium ;)

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:43

    Anyone sharing a kitchen at Uni: Put Blue food colouring in your milk, no ones likely to steal it, it really turns tea a very odd colour

    That, I have to try.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:43

    that’s different because it’s written post-race and the writer can thus chose to pick up on certain events, or not. depending on their significance.

    Not necessarily, and it can be useful to look back through the eyes of what we've learned in the race. I mean to take what you're saying to its fullest extent, are you saying we should only listen to the quailfying digest on a Saturday?

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:43

    Anyone sharing a kitchen at Uni: Put Blue food colouring in your milk, no ones likely to steal it, it really turns tea a very odd colour

    what a tip. i might try that here.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:43

    Hell no! Perfectly normal in my opinion. Heck, I eat two bowls of cereal a day if I can help. Can never have too much calcium

    ...I think.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:44

    That, I have to try.

    :D

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:44

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

    Yes, you should be swigging it from the bottle.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:44

    Hell no! Perfectly normal in my opinion. Heck, I eat two bowls of cereal a day if I can help. Can never have too much calcium ;)

    Well I have always had good teeth.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:44

    what a tip. i might try that here.

    drop.io the result, please! :D

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:44

    While I think a budget cap of £30M is crazy, I hope it’s not put at a figure which makes potential entrants think “That’s too high for us”. I know that even if it is at say, 80, it will probably come down. But I want teams in 2010, not 2012.

    Budget cap not coming in for 2010?

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 21:44

    what a tip. i might try that here.

    Christine stealing your milk again?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:44

    Yes, you should be swigging it from the bottle.

    You are obviously far more of a man than I will ever be :P

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:44

    Budget cap not coming in for 2010?

    Have the FIA said otherwise?

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:44

    I mean to take what you’re saying to its fullest extent, are you saying we should only listen to the quailfying digest on a Saturday?

    i do yes. but certainly before the race.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:45

    You are obviously far more of a man than I will ever be :P

    Ahh, the good al days, break time at school and the mornin milk

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:45

    Christine stealing your milk again?

    :D

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:45

    You are obviously far more of a man than I will ever be :P

    I've lived alone for a long time, haven't I...

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 21:45

    I have just watched the old preview vid from Bahrain and I don't remember a single part of the track. It is so totally anonymous that my memory has wiped it completely.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:46

    Have the FIA said otherwise?

    No, I think Joe confuggled me, i don't know if he thought the budget cap was coming in for 2012 or something

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:47

    I have just watched the old preview vid from Bahrain and I don’t remember a single part of the track. It is so totally anonymous that my memory has wiped it completely.

    Hmm, weird. Mind you, I was back on Race Pro today and yesterday and running round Valencia, I'd forgotten a bit how I used to run it.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:47

    No, I think Joe confuggled me, i don’t know if he thought the budget cap was coming in for 2012 or something

    No. I'm saying that if the budget started at 80 million, then came down to 60 for 2011, and 50 for 2012, then 2012 would be the likeliest date for these new teams. That's if it started at 80 and it was due to gradually come down.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:48

    Hmm, weird. Mind you, I was back on Race Pro today and yesterday and running round Valencia, I’d forgotten a bit how I used to run it.

    Which one, the good one or the other one?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:48

    Which one, the good one or the other one?

    The good one.

  • me23/04/2009 at 21:48

    I have just watched the old preview vid from Bahrain and I don’t remember a single part of the track. It is so totally anonymous that my memory has wiped it completely.

    i remember the marshals from last year. having a chat looking the wrong way as a mclaren slammed into the wall beside them.

    the track? not so much.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 21:48

    No. I’m saying that if the budget started at 80 million, then came down to 60 for 2011, and 50 for 2012, then 2012 would be the likeliest date for these new teams. That’s if it started at 80 and it was due to gradually come down.

    Alright, got you now. Well obviously as you go along, more people will become intrested. But some will get intrested early on, some when it comes to 2011 etc.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:49

    Hmm, weird. Mind you, I was back on Race Pro today and yesterday and running round Valencia, I’d forgotten a bit how I used to run it.

    I want that game just to go on Valencia. Sector 3 looks so much fun.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:49

    i remember the marshals from last year. having a chat looking the wrong way as a mclaren slammed into the wall beside them.

    Oh yeah, I remember that! :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:50

    I want that game just to go on Valencia. Sector 3 looks so much fun.

    Try taking that right-angled-looking corner in 4th in a WTCC car and cut over the inside kerbing. It sends the car on two wheels sometimes if you do it right :D

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:50

    I have just watched the old preview vid from Bahrain and I don’t remember a single part of the track. It is so totally anonymous that my memory has wiped it completely.

    I can go through a lap of it in my head thanks to my virtual F1 years. But if you asked me about turn 6, 8 or 10 and so on, I'd be like "Hold on, let me go through it from the start......."

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 21:52

    the track? not so much.

    theres a long straight, then a tight right and then a sweep to the left, then a turn to the right, then theres a few flicks, then downhill to the hairpin where dc and jenson had that crash (i think) and then a short straight that goes round to the left, and then a tight left, then another straight, and then another left, big long straight with sweeper-y bits, another right, back onto hte main straight....

    all from memory :D boo ya

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 21:52

    I can go through a lap of it in my head thanks to my virtual F1 years. But if you asked me about turn 6, 8 or 10 and so on, I’d be like “Hold on, let me go through it from the start…….”

    There is nothing like playing a game on a track for getting to know it. Apart from racing on it for real of course,

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 21:53

    I have just watched the old preview vid from Bahrain and I don’t remember a single part of the track. It is so totally anonymous that my memory has wiped it completely.

    Me neither, it has absolutly no character. I know the basic shape of it but that's about it. And that from someone who can drive a lap of any circiut from the past 10 years in their head no problem.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:53

    Which one, the good one or the other one?

    There isn't a good one anywhere remotely near Valencia.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:54

    Bahrain track map = Abe Simpson shaking his fist.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:55

    Pat W: 23/04/2009 at 22:53:57

    Which one, the good one or the other one?

    There isn’t a good one anywhere remotely near Valencia.

    !!!

    You can't knock the Ricardo Tormo circuit! The street circuit yes, but not the testing venue!

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 21:55

    You can’t knock the Ricardo Tormo circuit! The street circuit yes, but not the testing venue!

    doing it in a big truck is fun too, always get the braking point after the straight verrry wrong

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:56

    You can’t knock the Ricardo Tormo circuit! The street circuit yes, but not the testing venue!

    Have you ever watched a race held there?? It's crap.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 21:56

    There is nothing like playing a game on a track for getting to know it. Apart from racing on it for real of course,

    Definitely. Alonso certainly thinks so. Jenson doesn't.

    I do like *thinks through lap* the flik-flaky turns 4 and 5, then downhill to the right of turn 6. Turn 7 is a pretty unique one, you have to get turn-in and braking perfect or you can go straight off easily. There's no mrgin for error........well except for the run-off of course.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 21:58

    Have you ever watched a race held there?? It’s crap.

    I mean, I'm assuming you are talking from experience of driving it in games :-)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 21:59

    I mean, I’m assuming you are talking from experience of driving it in games

    Of course, I've had some good races there on Race Pro.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 22:00

    Is it really that off for a 22 year old to be drinking a glass of milk? My housemate gives me an odd look every time I do it.

    Does he play for Accrington Stanley?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 22:01

    Definitely. Alonso certainly thinks so.

    I think there was a quote from him on the box or in the manual of the first game to have the Istanbul circuit about how he had used the game to learn it.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 22:01

    Does he play for Accrington Stanley?

    I don't. Maybe if I drink some more though.....

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 22:02

    Does he play for Accrington Stanley?

    Who Are They?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 22:03

    I think there was a quote from him on the box or in the manual of the first game to have the Istanbul circuit about how he had used the game to learn it.

    Yup, he did.

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 22:03

    Who Are They?

    I thought you were a football fan

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:03

    Who Are They?

    r.g. how could you possibly know that line??

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 22:04

    I thought you were a football fan

    It's a joke from the 80s

    'Acrrington Stanley. Who Are They? Exactly'

    Over publicised by Soccer AM

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:06

    Over publicised by Soccer AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYP1d5nN2o

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 22:06

    It's also from an advert from the 80s ish

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 22:07
  • me23/04/2009 at 22:08

    I saw that y’know ;)

    but not originally, surely?

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 22:09

    but not originally, surely?

    Only if he lies about his age as much as I do

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 22:09

    but not originally, surely?

    i'm mightily confused if the answer is yes

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 22:09

    but not originally, surely?

    Of course not. 5-6 years off for that

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:10

    Interestingly another photo of my BrawnGP hat appeared on drop.io today despite my not sending it. I sent two the other day because the first didn't work. I think it must have got lost on the way.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:10

    er, "my not sending it today"

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 22:11

    Right, after getting Accrington Stanely way to much publicity here. I shall head off, see ya all tomorrow afternoon

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:11

    Right, after getting Accrington Stanely way to much publicity here. I shall head off, see ya all tomorrow afternoon

    night r.g.

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 22:11

    Good night RG

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:11

    Interestingly another photo of my BrawnGP hat appeared on drop.io today despite my not sending it. I sent two the other day because the first didn’t work. I think it must have got lost on the way.

    that is just... odd.

  • RG - Can't go two minutes without Timo23/04/2009 at 22:12

    PS, enjoy your practice sessions, its annoying when the times become reasonable that school starts again

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 22:13

    Right, after getting Accrington Stanely way to much publicity here. I shall head off, see ya all tomorrow afternoon

    You're not a fan either then? :D Night

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:15

    I imagine it will be like the same mode in F1WGP where the cars and drivers all stay current, but they use a scenario from the past. I’m glad it’s back though, that was one of my favourite parts of the N64 game.

    Mine too and it was VERY tricky :-)

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:16

    that is just… odd.

    It seems to happen when I send two pics from my phone in quick succession. The 2nd one vanishes for a while.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 22:17

    Bah. Internet is playing up again.

    Managed to watch Murray's Questions though. And some of the 1998 Canadian GP. That shows just how good Murray was as a commentator.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:17

    It seems to happen when I send two pics from my phone in quick succession. The 2nd one vanishes for a while.

    Not a major problem. I'm somewhat more annoyed at Twitpic for not picking up a single photo I sent from the SPC meet.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 22:25

    A1GP's Team Ireland boss could be aiming for a A1GP race in Ireland:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/7882319.stm

    "Can you imagine it, a Grand Prix-style street race in Belfast or Dublin?" he said.

    "When you consider the success of the North-West 200, a motorcycle road race, and how popular rallying is in Ireland.

    "I think a Monte Carlo-style motor race in the streets of a city here would be terrific."

    That would be beyond amazing. I could actually go to that. I think it's not possible though, even with our hosting of a WRC event.

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 22:27

    That would be beyond amazing. I could actually go to that. I think it’s not possible though, even with our hosting of a WRC event.

    There is a long history of closing roads for racing in Ireland. Stirling Moss and co used to race at Dundrod etc.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 22:31

    With half an hour of the day left, I have managed to write a blog post.

    http://snakesonlevelnine.wordpress.com/

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 22:32

    chris evans: 23/04/2009 at 23:31:09

    With half an hour of the day left, I have managed to write a blog post.

    http://snakesonlevelnine.wordpress.com/

    WEEEEEEEEEY! :D

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 22:34

    With half an hour of the day left, I have managed to write a blog post.

    nice job :)

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 22:35

    I don't understand this Internet thingy. I may have to rely on updates from you all as most of the sites I am trying to access won't let me connect to them. I can get to here and TUAW, that's about it right now.

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 22:35

    I don’t understand this Internet thingy. I may have to rely on updates from you all as most of the sites I am trying to access won’t let me connect to them. I can get to here and TUAW, that’s about it right now.

    What other sites do you need?

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 22:36

    What other sites do you need?

    Well I was enjoying the Canadian GP on JTV, trying to login to Twitter too

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 22:36

    nice job :)

    Cheers :D

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 22:38

    I'm looking forward to a new F1 sim. Might make me dig out the ol' logitech steering wheel, although I don't know how you will control the KERS.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 22:41

    I’m looking forward to a new F1 sim. Might make me dig out the ol’ logitech steering wheel, although I don’t know how you will control the KERS.

    As long as the wheel has a full quota of buttons it will be on there somewhere!

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 22:42

    I think it has 2 or 4 buttons. What's a full quota these days - 10 or 15?!

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 22:43

    There is a long history of closing roads for racing in Ireland. Stirling Moss and co used to race at Dundrod etc.

    It seems too much money to throw about at the moment, especially with our moronic government. Of course, if it did happen it might not be for 10 years, by which time it should be normal service again.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 22:45

    I think it has 2 or 4 buttons. What’s a full quota these days - 10 or 15?!

    Too many! 14 on the 360 pad if you include the D-pad.

  • cian23/04/2009 at 22:45

    It seems too much money to throw about at the moment, especially with our moronic government. Of course, if it did happen it might not be for 10 years, by which time it should be normal service again.

    Hey Giuseppe, just did a time in GRID....suppose someone has to come last.

    Cant imagine a race in Dublin, certainly not the city centre. Theres nowhere to have it.

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 22:48

    Hey Giuseppe, just did a time in GRID….suppose someone has to come last.

    Cant imagine a race in Dublin, certainly not the city centre. Theres nowhere to have it.

    :P

    Can't imagine it either myself. The rally was different because Sligo is all boggy and crap and it suits rally. For this though........nice thinking but that's what it will most likely remain as.

    Stick the time in when you can:

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/GRID+Laptime+challenge

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:49

    Here's a question... BTCC @ Thruxton on Sunday - or Goodwood?

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:49

    Here’s a question… BTCC @ Thruxton on Sunday - or Goodwood?

    if you go to btcc, won't you miss the gp?

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 22:50

    Cant imagine a race in Dublin, certainly not the city centre. Theres nowhere to have it.

    Try to make one?

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Quikmaps

  • cian23/04/2009 at 22:51

    Can’t imagine it either myself. The rally was different because Sligo is all boggy and crap and it suits rally. For this though……..nice thinking but that’s what it will most likely remain as.

    Indeed, do you remember when Peter Collins asked Max about holding a race in the Phoenix Park (now THAT would be good) on telly back in the day?

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:51

    if you go to btcc, won’t you miss the gp?

    Exactly.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:51

    Try to make one?

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Quikmaps

    Oh I'm so going to have to play with that some time...

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 22:52

    Watching Murray's Bahrain preview, his pronunciation of Kubica is still bizarre.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 22:52

    Cant imagine a race in Dublin, certainly not the city centre. Theres nowhere to have it.

    Oh dont you worry about the space, Bernie will find some :P

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 22:52

    using my phone so just a quick question

    what time is FP1 on?

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 22:53

    I just realised the reason i wasnt getting any comments coming through on my tab....the 2 spc things werent the doohickey...boo hehe

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:53

    using my phone so just a quick question

    what time is FP1 on?

    8am

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 22:53

    using my phone so just a quick question what time is FP1 on?

    8am.

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:53

    I just realised the reason i wasnt getting any comments coming through on my tab….the 2 spc things werent the doohickey…boo hehe

    :D

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:54

    if you go to btcc, won’t you miss the gp?

    Thruxton is by far the easiest circuit for me to get to and I haven't been trackside since September, and BTCC is always a bit of fun particularly now Thompson is back. And Goodwood isn't a race.

    BUT the BTCC clashes with the GP and today I collected another pile of homework to do, and Goodwood is very cool.

  • Flibster23/04/2009 at 22:55

    8am

    cheers

    on a rather long night out so should be home by then

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 22:55

    Watching Murray’s Bahrain preview, his pronunciation of Kubica is still bizarre.

    Try Derek Warwick's pronunciation of Villeneuve and Fisichella in the 1998 Canadian GP commentary

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 22:55

    Thruxton is by far the easiest circuit for me to get to and I haven’t been trackside since September, and BTCC is always a bit of fun particularly now Thompson is back. And Goodwood isn’t a race.

    BUT the BTCC clashes with the GP and today I collected another pile of homework to do, and Goodwood is very cool.

    I do love Thruxton, although it was my first BTCC race so that may be why

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:55

    Thruxton is by far the easiest circuit for me to get to and I haven’t been trackside since September, and BTCC is always a bit of fun particularly now Thompson is back. And Goodwood isn’t a race.

    BUT the BTCC clashes with the GP and today I collected another pile of homework to do, and Goodwood is very cool.

    that is a tough one. are btcc not coming to thruxton twice this year?

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 22:56

    that is a tough one. are btcc not coming to thruxton twice this year?

    for the first time in a very long time...the answer is no...

  • me23/04/2009 at 22:57

    for the first time in a very long time…the answer is no…

    how annoying is that?

    it'd still be goodwood for me.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 22:58

    that is a tough one. are btcc not coming to thruxton twice this year?

    No that was a one-off. This year they are back to the normal 2 x Brands Hatch, which is bloody miles away!

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 22:58

    how annoying is that?

    very, still at brands twice though aannndd, it should be on the GP circuit, although they're likely to change their mind last minute like last year

  • Joe23/04/2009 at 22:58

    Wow, James Allen says on Twitter that sandstorms are forecast throughout the weekend. That would surely be a first in the sport. He replied to my question in one of his blog posts too, yay!

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 22:59

    Wow, James Allen says on Twitter that sandstorms are forecast throughout the weekend. That would surely be a first in the sport. He replied to my question in one of his blog posts too, yay!

    Something about hand gestures?

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:00

    it’d still be goodwood for me.

    I'm tempted to agree if only because I do BTCC most years and I'm a bit bored of it. I treat it like a snack now. Something to keep me going. The next nearest to me is Silverstone and I'm not in a hurry to go back to that round after seeing it in Sept.

    I haven't been to Goodwood for ages but it costs double for one day..

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 23:00

    No that was a one-off. This year they are back to the normal 2 x Brands Hatch, which is bloody miles away!

    so it was, only in 2007, which was my first year at a race, how wierd, i thought they always went there twice

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 23:00

    it’d still be goodwood for me.

    my tickets came today :)

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:01

    I wanted to try out the FIA GTs at Silverstone but apparently that's next week (thought it was ages away!). Doubt I'll make it. Never been to a sportscar race.

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 23:01

    it’d still be goodwood for me.

    You guys just don't know how lucky you are!

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 23:02

    You guys just don’t know how lucky you are!

    it is true :) we have the best motorsport scene in the world in uk, lucky us :)

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:03

    You guys just don’t know how lucky you are!

    keep reminding us pauli. it's easy to forget.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:03

    Great, Internet came back. Went away again. DNS works fine, it's actual data transfer that doesn't. ISP forums also affected. Bah.

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 23:03

    it is true :) we have the best motorsport scene in the world in uk, lucky us :)

    For me, Goodwood will be one of those "once in a lifetime" things - if i ever get there.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:03

    Okay. You guys are a nice sounding board. :-)

    My thinking now is this: After returning to college today post-easter we seem to have nearly double the workload as we had before. Going to races is a really bad idea because I need the time. SO. The extra expense of Goodwood is worth it as a reward to myself, coming as it does 2 weeks after me exams...

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:06

    The extra expense of Goodwood is worth it as a reward to myself, coming as it does 2 weeks after me exams…

    ace. i'll see where christine is regards to tickets. i quite fancy a set like lukeh's!

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 23:07

    ace. i’ll see where christine is regards to tickets. i quite fancy a set like lukeh’s!

    whats special about his?

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 23:08

    ace. i’ll see where christine is regards to tickets. i quite fancy a set like lukeh’s!

    well it was £96 for just two days... or £108 for all 3... with each day at about £48 or soa ticket, I thought why not, might as well treat myself :)

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:08

    ace. i’ll see where christine is regards to tickets. i quite fancy a set like lukeh’s!

    Me too but I doubt I can do the full weekend. I've never done more than a single day there.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:09

    whats special about his?

    they are tantalisingly close.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:09

    well it was £96 for just two days… or £108 for all 3… with each day at about £48 or soa ticket, I thought why not, might as well treat myself :)

    it's a fine, fine plan. you also stand a better chance of hitting some decent weather.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:10

    they are tantalisingly close.

    Floating in the sea near Rockall?

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 23:10

    it’s a fine, fine plan. you also stand a better chance of hitting some decent weather.

    Man, I hope you guys get some good photos.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:11

    Floating in the sea near Rockall?

    floating in a sea of jealously.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:11

    floating in a sea of jealously.

    :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:14

    Morning everyone.

    Did I miss anything? :D

    I see I've made up ground on the battle for 2nd most talkative. ;)

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 23:16

    Did I miss anything? :D

    These annoying poms are just chatting about all the great events they get to go and see.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:17

    These annoying poms are just chatting about all the great events they get to go and see.

    Does it help if I mention that I'm not going? I didn't make the Science Museum either.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:17

    I hate to be a real, real pain and bring it up again (sort of) but where am I in terms of most talkative? Don't tell me how many I've got though, that'll only start me off again...

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:18

    These annoying poms are just chatting about all the great events they get to go and see.

    Ah well... I may not be able to go to Goodwood or Silverstone, but I least I've been to Singapore and Sepang. ;)

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:18

    I hate to be a real, real pain and bring it up again (sort of) but where am I in terms of most talkative? Don’t tell me how many I’ve got though, that’ll only start me off again…

    Not in the top five, obviously ;)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:19

    Not in the top five, obviously ;)

    I'm guessing Scott is 7th. Just a hunch. ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:19

    Not in the top five, obviously

    Really?! Had no idea!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:19

    I’m guessing Scott is 7th. Just a hunch.

    I was guessing somewhere around there funnily enough. :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:20

    I was guessing somewhere around there funnily enough. :D

    lou, gavin, lukeh, steven, journeyer, rg, scott.

    that's how i'm guessing things are right now.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:21

    Really?! Had no idea!

    Happy to be so informative. I've just thought that if every time you post Journeyer replies, he'll always remain ahead of you :D

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:21

    The talkative list covers 30 days and for most of the last 30 days you have not had a computer so I would have thought you were lower than that.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:21

    Happy to be so informative. I’ve just thought that if every time you post Journeyer replies, he’ll always remain ahead of you :D

    :D :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:21

    Happy to be so informative. I’ve just thought that if every time you post Journeyer replies, he’ll always remain ahead of you :D

    Hahahahaha! Winner! :D :D :D

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:22

    I have dropped to fourth as Gavin and Lukeh have passed me

    Most Talkative

    lou (2913)

    Gavin Brown (Rubb... (2592)

    Lukeh (2586)

    Steven Roy (2560)

    Journeyer (2426)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:22

    Happy to be so informative. I’ve just thought that if every time you post Journeyer replies, he’ll always remain ahead of you :D

    But I wasn't around for the past 6 hours, so surely Scott made up some ground there? ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:22

    But I wasn’t around for the past 6 hours, so surely Scott made up some ground there? ;)

    he has to sleep sometime.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:22

    lou, gavin, lukeh, steven, journeyer, rg, scott.

    Hmm Easter holidays making the difference there for those in the education system?

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 23:22

    I have dropped to fourth as Gavin and Lukeh have passed me

    Blimey. Would you look at that... :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:23

    he has to sleep sometime.

    Sleep? What is this sleep? I know not of this strange phenomenon you speak of.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:23

    I have dropped to fourth as Gavin and Lukeh have passed me

    And I'm closing in on ya! :P

    I might struggle today, though - stuck with ye olde comments for FP1, and I won't be around for FP2.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:24

    Blimey. Would you look at that… :)

    Stuck in all day waiting for the elusive UPS collection...

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:24
  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 23:24

    I don't know how you guys do it. I turn around for 5 minutes and there are 20 new posts!!

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 23:24

    Stuck in all day waiting for the elusive UPS collection…

    Thats my excuse and I'm sticking by it. ;)

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 23:25

    I don’t know how you guys do it. I turn around for 5 minutes and there are 20 new posts!!

    It's annoying isnt it :P

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:25

    I might struggle today, though - stuck with ye olde comments for FP1, and I won’t be around for FP2.

    I'll be around for both FP sessions for the first time this year, so that gives me a chance to make more ground. No counting though, that gets annoying as has already been pointed out ;)

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:25

    lou, gavin, lukeh, steven, journeyer, rg, scott.

    Amy must be high on the list. She hasn't sllept since the season started

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:25

    I don’t know how you guys do it. I turn around for 5 minutes and there are 20 new posts!!

    Tis the Sidepodcast Way... Think of it as a chat, and you wouldn't be so surprised with 20 comments in 5 minutes. :D

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:25

    I don’t know how you guys do it. I turn around for 5 minutes and there are 20 new posts!!

    Just shows that you should never turn away.... Don't blink.

  • mehttp://www.sidepodcast.com/realtime/23/04/2009 at 23:25

    Amy must be high on the list. She hasn’t sllept since the season started

    :)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:26

    Amy must be high on the list. She hasn’t sllept since the season started

    she might be 7th ahead of scott.

    Just realized - I have a really high number, considering I was in Malaysia for a week! I can really go for #1 here!

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:26

    oops. i broke me name.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:26

    mehttp://www.sidepodcast.com/realtime/: 24/04/2009 at 00:25:45

    What's happened there? LOL

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 23:26

    oops. i broke me name.

    :D

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 23:26

    Just shows that you should never turn away…. Don’t blink.

    Trying to do this at work is a bad idea then......

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:27

    What’s happened there? LOL

    mouse error.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:27

    oops. i broke me name.

    You and me both. Still can't get rid of that plus sign. Given up now.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 23:27

    oops. i broke me name.

    i just felt an earthquake. I swear!

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:27

    You and me both. Still can’t get rid of that plus sign. Given up now.

    tis on me list.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 23:27

    mouse error.

    drag the doohickey link into your name box?

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:27

    mouse error.

    "You have moved your mouse. WIndows must be restarted to reflect the change."

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:28

    drag the doohickey link into your name box?

    was commenting and eating pringles.

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 23:28

    was commenting and eating pringles.

    never a good combination :P

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:28

    was commenting and eating pringles.

    Mmm, Pringles :D

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:29

    Since we have had four races in five weeks with most sessions taking place at a time when a lot of us can see them I guess whoever is at the top of the list on Sunday is likely to set a record that may never be beaten.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 23:29

    Im watching Green Wing on dvd... everytime Alan statham appears I see Jumpy McGrumpy... what has that man done to get so deeply threaded into my mind? :(

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:29

    Since we have had four races in five weeks with most sessions taking place at a time when a lot of us can see them I guess whoever is at the top of the list on Sunday is likely to set a record that may never be beaten.

    you raise a very good point.

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:29

    never a good combination :P

    Commenting and Pringles is the perfect combination.

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:30

    Im watching Green Wing on dvd… everytime Alan statham appears I see Jumpy McGrumpy… what has that man done to get so deeply threaded into my mind? :(

    Both series are still available on 4OD

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:30

    Since we have had four races in five weeks with most sessions taking place at a time when a lot of us can see them I guess whoever is at the top of the list on Sunday is likely to set a record that may never be beaten.

    We thought that of the British GP last year. Where is that now?

    Never say never in SPC - things keep going up and up. :D

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:30

    Im watching Green Wing on dvd… everytime Alan statham appears I see Jumpy McGrumpy… what has that man done to get so deeply threaded into my mind? :(

    Struck some sort of nerve I guess. It seems he was behaving like a Consultant Radiologist ;)

  • Jon Waldock23/04/2009 at 23:30

    Commenting and Pringles is the perfect combination.

    ah but only if during the day time, if i ate food now i'd have even bigger sleeping problems...

    and talking of sleeping.....

    night all

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:30

    you raise a very good point.

    Two and a half thousand comments and I finally made a worthwhile point.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:31

    night all

    Night Jon.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:31

    Two and a half thousand comments and I finally made a worthwhile point.

    :D :D

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 23:31

    night all

    Goodnight :)

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:31

    Two and a half thousand comments and I finally made a worthwhile point.

    And whose fault is that?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:31

    Two and a half thousand comments and I finally made a worthwhile point.

    And a couple of guest posts, too. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:31

    Two and a half thousand comments and I finally made a worthwhile point.

    Hallelujah :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:31

    We thought that of the British GP last year. Where is that now?

    that was total comments per thread i think?

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:32

    Wow, 5 comments all the the same time.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:32

    see ya jon.

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:32

    We thought that of the British GP last year. Where is that now?

    Normally I would never say a record wouldn't be beaten but 4 races in 4 weeks in those time zones creates an opportunity that will rarely arise.

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:32

    that was total comments per thread i think?

    I remember that day - I got comment #1000 in the race thread :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:32

    that was total comments per thread i think?

    true, but it also would've marked a high-water point in terms of comments per person up to that point. we reached 1000 comments with less people than we have now.

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:33

    Good night Jon

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:33

    Wow, 5 comments all the the same time.

    5 in 10 seconds, to be more precise.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:34

    seeing as we're on numbers and comments. at some point this weekend, assuming the server stays alive long enough, spc may just break 200,000 comments. half of those will have been submitted since the start of the year.

    please, please don't start a countdown ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:35

    seeing as we’re on numbers and comments. at some point this weekend, assuming the server stays alive long enough, spc may just break 200,000 comments. half of those will have been submitted since the start of the year.

    please, please don’t start a countdown

    I don't even know what number we're at, and don't want to know for obvious reasons :P

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:35

    please, please don’t start a countdown ;)

    will there be a prize for the 200,000th poster?

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:35

    true, but it also would’ve marked a high-water point in terms of comments per person up to that point. we reached 1000 comments with less people than we have now.

    ahh yes. interesting thought.

    that was pre-live commenting though?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:35

    seeing as we’re on numbers and comments. at some point this weekend, assuming the server stays alive long enough, spc may just break 200,000 comments. half of those will have been submitted since the start of the year.

    roughly 100000 comments for 2 years and 3 months, then another 100000 comments in 5 months.

    That's absolutely unbelievable. :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:36

    will there be a prize for the 200,000th poster?

    nope. but it'll be equally as dissapointing.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:36

    that was pre-live commenting though?

    We did have live commenting!

    Not sure if we already had LCLT or Doohickey though.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:36

    that was pre-live commenting though?

    Live commenting is the reason for the numbers shooting up though.

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:36

    roughly 100000 comments for 2 years and 3 months, then another 100000 comments in 5 months.

    That is insane

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:36

    seeing as we’re on numbers and comments. at some point this weekend, assuming the server stays alive long enough, spc may just break 200,000 comments. half of those will have been submitted since the start of the year.

    Sorry - does that mean 100,000 in around 4 months?! HOW! :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:36

    That is insane

    Exactly. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:37

    Scott Woodwiss: 23/04/2009 at 23:36

    seeing as we’re on numbers and comments. at some point this weekend, assuming the server stays alive long enough, spc may just break 200,000 comments. half of those will have been submitted since the start of the year.

    Sorry - does that mean 100,000 in around 4 months?! HOW!

    If that doesn't show how much of a community we are, I don't know what will :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:37

    Sorry - does that mean 100,000 in around 4 months?! HOW! :D

    It's actually 5 months, but still, that's like 20000 comments - a month!

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:37

    We did have live commenting!

    sorry, yes.

    Not sure if we already had LCLT or Doohickey though.

    that was what i really meant.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:37

    That is insane

    RIght, let's all shut up for a bit then. Next person to comment buys the drinks at the next meet up. :)

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:38

    Sorry - does that mean 100,000 in around 4 months?! HOW! :D

    How? Because the commenting solutions and the conversations here are incredibly addictive.

  • Lukeh23/04/2009 at 23:38

    righteo... i'll see you guys in the morning for Fp1. :)

    night all!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:38

    RIght, let’s all shut up for a bit then. Next person to comment buys the drinks at the next meet up. :)

    I'll keep talking - it's not like you'll see me anytime soon, anyway. :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:38

    How? Because the commenting solutions and the conversations here are incredibly addictive.

    Hey Pat! Looks like you're buying the drinks next time. ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:38

    Pat's buying :D

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 23:38

    RIght, let’s all shut up for a bit then. Next person to comment buys the drinks at the next meet up. :)

    How? Because the commenting solutions and the conversations here are incredibly addictive.

    We have a winnner!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:38

    righteo… i’ll see you guys in the morning for Fp1. :)

    night lukeh.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:39

    I’ll keep talking - it’s not like you’ll see me anytime soon, anyway. :D

    I didn't say you had to be there, just buy the drinks.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 23:39

    night lukeh

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:39

    I didn’t say you had to be there, just buy the drinks.

    via Paypal :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:39

    That is insane

    this what the numbers say:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/nearly-200000-comments-png

    6,000 might be a tough ask though?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:39

    I didn’t say you had to be there, just buy the drinks.

    It's a moot point now, isn't it? :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:39

    night all!

    see ya lukeh.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:40

    Hey Pat! Looks like you’re buying the drinks next time. ;)

    I got a round last time! :-)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:40

    6,000 might be a tough ask though?

    not even we can do 6000 in a day!

    but it can be done by sunday. :)

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:40

    It’s a moot point now, isn’t it? :D

    Not heard of Paypal then? :)

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:41

    6,000 might be a tough ask though?

    Not based on last week.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:41

    not even we can do 6000 in a day!

    but it can be done by sunday. :)

    i said this weekend? if i didn't, that's what i meant :)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:41

    Not heard of Paypal then? :)

    Paypal doesn't approve all payments from the Philippines. Heck, there was a time Paypal refused to accept any of our payments!

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:42

    Paypal doesn’t approve all payments from the Philippines. Heck, there was a time Paypal refused to accept any of our payments!

    You have Manila envelopes though? One stuffed with cash would do at a pinch...

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:43

    You have Manila envelopes though? One stuffed with cash would do at a pinch…

    :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:43

    Right, I'm gonna get myself ready for sleep. See you all at 8 tomorrow morning for FP1 :)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:44

    Right, I’m gonna get myself ready for sleep. See you all at 8 tomorrow morning for FP1 :)

    Good night, Scott. :)

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:44

    Right, I’m gonna get myself ready for sleep. See you all at 8 tomorrow morning for FP1 :)

    right journeyer. michael schumacher, a worthy champion? let's discuss.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:44

    Good night, Scott. :)

    Quick Journeyer, now's your time to bang in a few quick comments while Scott has his pit stop!

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:45

    right journeyer. michael schumacher, a worthy champion? let’s discuss.

    let's go!

    michael, worthy? yes, absolutely. :D

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:45

    right journeyer. michael schumacher, a worthy champion? let’s discuss.

    Ooh, you ba.........

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:45

    Quick Journeyer, now’s your time to bang in a few quick comments while Scott has his pit stop!

    a few? ha! he won't have a chance by the time i have breakfast! :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:45

    Ooh, you ba………

    night scott ;)

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:46

    right journeyer. michael schumacher, a worthy champion? let’s discuss.

    I can see it now, 3,000 comments with "Oh yes he is", 3,000 with "Oh no he isn't"

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:46

    Ooh, you ba………

    =)) I can go on all morning. ;) Even better if Wolf shows up and keeps me company . :)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:46

    a few? ha! he won’t have a chance by the time i have breakfast!

    Yeah but at the rate I comment while you sleep, I'll soon regain that deficit ;)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:46

    I can see it now, 3,000 comments with “Oh yes he is”, 3,000 with “Oh no he isn’t”

    Nah, I can just reply to each of your comments and make it to 3000. :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:46

    Yeah but at the rate I comment while you sleep, I’ll soon regain that deficit ;)

    It's Friday night, Scott. I can stay up.

    Mwahahahaha!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:47

    I can see it now, 3,000 comments with “Oh yes he is”, 3,000 with “Oh no he isn’t”

    What a waste... ;)

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:47

    Right, I’m gonna get myself ready for sleep. See you all at 8 tomorrow morning for FP1 :)

    People will comment while you sleep and overtake you again.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:47

    What a waste… ;)

    I thought you were going to bed, Scott? ;)

    :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:47

    People will comment while you sleep and overtake you again.

    Exactly!

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:47

    It’s Friday night, Scott. I can stay up.

    Mwahahahaha!

    Ooh, you sir have just drawn 'dem battlelines!

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:48

    Mwahahahaha!

    I wonder if Steve Jobs is sitting at home right now saying "One Billion Applications" in a Dr Evil style.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:48

    People will comment while you sleep and overtake you again.

    we should make sure he's on the panel too. that'll be him tied up for at least an hour.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:48

    Ooh, you sir have just drawn ‘dem battlelines!

    In the words of Bugs Bunny, "Of course, you know, this means war."

    :D

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:48

    we should make sure he’s on the panel too. that’ll be him tied up for at least an hour.

    and maybe i should show up as a commenter this week... ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:49

    we should make sure he’s on the panel too. that’ll be him tied up for at least an hour.

    Is some kind of conspiracy now? I feel like McLaren... :(

    ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:49

    and maybe i should show up as a commenter this week… ;)

    we could make sure the show overruns, just to be sure.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:49

    What a waste… ;)

    I agree, when he obviously isn't.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:49

    Is some kind of conspiracy now? I feel like McLaren… :(

    Just think of it as us egging you on. You'll find it tough to get past RG for 6th, never mind me. ;)

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:50

    In the words of Bugs Bunny, “Of course, you know, this means war.”

    :-)

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:50

    we could make sure the show overruns, just to be sure.

    :D

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:50

    Is some kind of conspiracy now? I feel like McLaren… :(

    Will you have your comment count reduced to zero?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:50

    Will you have your comment count reduced to zero?

    Hahaha! Or maybe we should copy whatever the FIA do to McLaren on the 29th. ;)

    39 comments in an hour. Not bad!

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:50

    Will you have your comment count reduced to zero?

    it's only fair. journeyer supports the red team.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:51

    it’s only fair. journeyer supports the red team.

    nice one!

    lou and lukeh would be supporting the highlighter team, then? :D

  • Steven Roy23/04/2009 at 23:52

    we could make sure the show overruns, just to be sure.

    Two women co-hosting. I would have thought an overrun was a certainty

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:52

    it’s only fair. journeyer supports the red team.

    But you're not part of the FIA, are you?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:52

    Two women co-hosting. I would have thought an overrun was a certainty

    Who are hosting this weekend?

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:52

    Two women co-hosting. I would have thought an overrun was a certainty

    *ducks*

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:52

    But you’re not part of the FIA, are you?

    Nope... not YET. :D

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:52

    Two women co-hosting. I would have thought an overrun was a certainty

    LPG does not approve of this comment. Beware Steven, beware.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 23:53

    *ducks*

    wise move

  • Scott Woodwiss23/04/2009 at 23:53

    You better have a pistol, Journeyer because we are about to duel, brother!...

    ...after I sleep. Goodnight for real now. ;) :D

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:53

    But you’re not part of the FIA, are you?

    well, we're twisting the rules to the detriment of a mclaren supporter. we may as well be.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:53

    LPG does not approve of this comment. Beware Steven, beware.

    Is it LPG and Lou hosting?

    Steven's found a sparring partner of his own. ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:54

    LPG does not approve of this comment. Beware Steven, beware.

    can lpg join in the panel this week?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:54

    You better have a pistol, Journeyer because we are about to duel, brother!…

    I'm ready...

    …after I sleep. Goodnight for real now. ;) :D

    To shoot ya while you're down! :D Good night, Scott.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:54

    can lpg join in the panel this week?

    then let's put her and steven in opposite teams. ;)

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:55

    then let’s put her and steven in opposite teams. ;)

    yay! i think it's jackie and lou hosting.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:55

    You better have a pistol, Journeyer because we are about to duel, brother!…

    If Scott is the challenger, Journeyer gets to choose the weapon and, I think the location. Intercontinental missiles may be the only practical way of settling this dispute. Or GRID.

  • Pat W23/04/2009 at 23:55

    yay! i think it’s jackie and lou hosting.

    Do they know yet?

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:56

    can lpg join in the panel this week?

    I'm getting a no here.

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:56

    yay! i think it’s jackie and lou hosting.

    ooh, that sounds very cool. worth staying up for, perhaps... :D

    this means you, scott. :P

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:56

    Do they know yet?

    yeah. although i confused them by saying it was the last panel this weekend. it isn't, but they can still do it, and we'll twist ollie's arm for the following sunday.

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:57

    I’m getting a no here.

    i'll cry?

  • Journeyer23/04/2009 at 23:57

    i’ll cry?

    that works on men, not women. :P

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:58

    that works on men, not women. :P

    balls.

    what does work on women?

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:58

    i’ll cry?

    Still no. It doesn't work when DS cries. He won't be available either.

  • Andy+Taylor23/04/2009 at 23:58

    what does work on women?

    Flowers and chocolates according to one of my female colleagues.

  • chris evans23/04/2009 at 23:59

    Intercontinental missiles may be the only practical way of settling this dispute. Or GRID.

    hehehe

  • Pauli (oz)23/04/2009 at 23:59

    what does work on women?

    Nothing

  • me23/04/2009 at 23:59

    Flowers and chocolates according to one of my female colleagues.

    cupcake?

  • Sean Golding23/04/2009 at 23:59

    Morning everyone.

  • Pauli (oz)24/04/2009 at 00:00

    cupcake?

    Oh yeah - maybe diamonds.

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:00

    Nothing

    Bingo!

    Indifference does, sometimes. What works on Christine? :D

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:00

    Oh yeah - maybe diamonds.

    for a panel show?

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:00

    Morning everyone.

    morning sean!

    how are ya?

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:00

    Morning everyone.

    good morning sean.

  • Pauli (oz)24/04/2009 at 00:00

    for a panel show?

    Beer?

  • Pauli (oz)24/04/2009 at 00:01

    for a panel show?

    Pringles?

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:01

    cupcake?

    LPG can make her own. She's not that keen on Postman Pat either, especially since he went to work at the Special Delivery Service. I mean, how many postmen do you know who deliver single items by helicopter?

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:01

    Pringles?

    i ate them :(

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:01

    for a panel show?

    panda?

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:02

    LPG can make her own. She’s not that keen on Postman Pat either, especially since he went to work at the Special Delivery Service. I mean, how many postmen do you know who deliver single items by helicopter?

    jeremy clarkson.

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:02

    panda?

    christine's mother-in-law stole it for a photo shoot.

  • Pauli (oz)24/04/2009 at 00:02

    panda?

    Wasn't that Amy?

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:02

    christine’s mother-in-law stole it for a photo shoot.

    :D

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:03

    Wasn’t that Amy?

    Amy who admitted she has purchased a new headset. (muhahahahahaha)

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:04

    Wasn’t that Amy?

    Amy who admitted she has purchased a new headset. (muhahahahahaha)

    ahh yes.

    ...

    noted.

  • Pauli (oz)24/04/2009 at 00:05

    noted.

    Goodness! Never let any info out here !!

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:06

    Goodness! Never let any info out here !!

    Amy said so herself. She'll join a panel... eventually. ;)

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:06

    Amy said so herself. She’ll join a panel… eventually. ;)

    there's only two more until summer!

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:06

    Goodness! Never let any info out here !!

    Something that RG still hasn't worked out.

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:06

    Mr C, maybe we should have a special Aussie edition of the Panel one week soon, so that Amy, Sean, and our other Aussie friends can join.

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:07

    there’s only two more until summer!

    There needs to be a show to replace it. Like the News Quiz/Now Show on Radio 4

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:07

    Mr C, maybe we should have a special Aussie edition of the Panel one week soon, so that Amy, Sean, and our other Aussie friends can join.

    that sounds like a fine idea journeyer. would that be something like 8am our time?

  • Pauli (oz)24/04/2009 at 00:07

    Mr C, maybe we should have a special Aussie edition of the Panel one week soon, so that Amy, Sean, and our other Aussie friends can join.

    We could talk about V8s and Holdens and stuff !

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:07

    There needs to be a show to replace it. Like the News Quiz/Now Show on Radio 4

    doesn't another team come along and make those?

  • chris evans24/04/2009 at 00:07

    Right, bed time for me. I might see you all for FP1, though there is an equal chance of me rolling over and going back to sleep.

    Night all

  • Sean Golding24/04/2009 at 00:07

    We could talk about V8s and Holdens and stuff !

    ...

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:07

    see yay chris.

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:08

    that sounds like a fine idea journeyer. would that be something like 8am our time?

    yup, 8 or 9 am BST.

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:08

    that sounds like a fine idea journeyer. would that be something like 8am our time?

    That's a bit inconvenient for us European fans, though.

  • Pat W24/04/2009 at 00:08

    We could talk about V8s and Holdens and stuff !

    They could be the team names but maybe not spend the whole F1 podcast talking about them...

  • Sean Golding24/04/2009 at 00:08

    Mr C, maybe we should have a special Aussie edition of the Panel one week soon, so that Amy, Sean, and our other Aussie friends can join.

    I'd have to buy a new headset for that. One that actually worked...

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:08

    yup, 8 or 9 am BST.

    and I can join that special Aussie edition too. :D

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:08

    doesn’t another team come along and make those?

    Good point. Same channel though.

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:09

    They could be the team names but maybe not spend the whole F1 podcast talking about them…

    holden and ford? lowndes and winterbottom? :D

  • Pauli (oz)24/04/2009 at 00:09

    They could be the team names but maybe not spend the whole F1 podcast talking about them…

    LOL. Sorry. my internal Aussi coming out.

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:09

    yup, 8 or 9 am BST.

    it'd have to be a special, and it'd have to be when we both have monday off. but we can certainly try.

  • Pauli (oz)24/04/2009 at 00:09

    holden and ford? lowndes and winterbottom? :D

    We do have 888 here.

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:09

    That’s a bit inconvenient for us European fans, though.

    We can always compromise. 1 PM BST of a non-race weekend? ;)

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:10

    it’d have to be a special, and it’d have to be when we both have monday off. but we can certainly try.

    Don't you guys celebrate May 1?

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:10

    We can always compromise. 1 PM BST of a non-race weekend? ;)

    in that case it could be a sunday too.

  • Pat W24/04/2009 at 00:10

    it’d have to be a special, and it’d have to be when we both have monday off. but we can certainly try.

    Or a Sunday morning our time, if it works for them over there?

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:10

    Don’t you guys celebrate May 1?

    nope, and it's a friday?

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:10

    We can always compromise. 1 PM BST of a non-race weekend? ;)

    Wow. That was too easy. No wonder Bernie gets his way out your way.

    I was joking, 8am would be just fine for me really.

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:11

    in that case it could be a sunday too.

    yup. sunday would always have been the best day. :)

  • Pat W24/04/2009 at 00:11

    Don’t you guys celebrate May 1?

    yeah on the nearest Monday, but it isn't "celebrate" any more (the old traditions seem to have gone), it's just "yay a day off"

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:11

    yeah on the nearest Monday, but it isn’t “celebrate” any more (the old traditions seem to have gone), it’s just “yay a day off”

    interesting... it's still kinda celebrated here.

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:12

    nope, and it’s a friday?

    The May bank holiday is on the 4th this year.

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:12

    Wow. That was too easy. No wonder Bernie gets his way out your way.

    Bernie doesn't even TRY to compromise. It's his way or the highway.

  • Pat W24/04/2009 at 00:12

    interesting… it’s still kinda celebrated here.

    Lots of villages and small towns carry on the May Day fetes and things. Maypole dancing, Morris Men...

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:12

    The May bank holiday is on the 4th this year.

    I see. We'd normally do the same thing, but May 1 is a Friday, so we keep the holiday.

    Holiday economics. :D

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:12

    Lots of villages and small towns carry on the May Day fetes and things. Maypole dancing, Morris Men…

    in the uk?

  • Pat W24/04/2009 at 00:13

    Holy cow. 1:15am! I'm gone, see ya after work.

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:13

    in the uk?

    You really need to get out more.

  • Pat W24/04/2009 at 00:13

    in the uk?

    Yes.

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:14

    You really need to get out more.

    yes i do!

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:14

    Holy cow. 1:15am! I’m gone, see ya after work.

    night pat.

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:15

    yes i do!

    I don't think there's much danger of seeing any Morris men on Rockall - if they tried to dance they'd fall off. Interesting idea :D

  • Pat W24/04/2009 at 00:16

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6plrBzeQK0E

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:17

    Damn. Internet still won't load much. Frightened to switch off in case the doohickey breaks as well. :(

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:17

    Damn. Internet still won’t load much. Frightened to switch off in case the doohickey breaks as well. :(

    Heck - My Internet breaks on its own. I'm forced to reload the doohickey because of it sometimes.

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:18

    Damn. Internet still won’t load much. Frightened to switch off in case the doohickey breaks as well. :(

    you're having no luck this week :(

    am now going to sleep dreaming of morris dancers.

    (we really need a "comments you never thought you type" wiki page)

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:19

    Heck - My Internet breaks on its own. I’m forced to reload the doohickey because of it sometimes.

    My BOFH excuse of the day widget tells me it's because of terrorist activity in the server room - have to remove /bin/laden

  • me24/04/2009 at 00:19

    ooh, almost forgot... daily post:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/04/24/daily-24th-april-2009/#respond

  • Journeyer24/04/2009 at 00:19

    (we really need a “comments you never thought you type” wiki page)

    Hahaha! We could do that...

    Night Mr C.

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:20

    (we really need a “comments you never thought you type” wiki page)

    Yes. I think RG might feature on that quite a lot.

  • Andy+Taylor24/04/2009 at 00:21

    you’re having no luck this week :(

    At least this time Sidepodcast works and everything else is broken.

  • George24/04/2009 at 07:06

    My country isn't in the list :(

  • Flibster24/04/2009 at 07:07

    Commentary on speakers reasonably loud while I go get espresso...

    Coffee... need coffee

  • Flibster24/04/2009 at 07:08

    flow-vis testing again on the McLaren