Hi guys. I'm enjoying a few days off work as I use up our bizarre holiday allocation which runs from October to September. You'd think that would mean getting some useful odd jobs done, but no it does seem easier to doss around reading the internet and catching up with rugby highlights (aren't South Africa looking good now!).

I've also been really getting into AC/DC's older stuff, after getting quite drunk at a tribute band's gig on Saturday. What music have you discovered lately, even if it isn't newly-released?

LookingSpiffy has been exploring an alternative option for watching F1 in 2012 without paying the monthly fees for Sky Sports - watch the free foreign channels! Sounds like a lot of hassle to me but if you have the space for the dish it seems worth giving it a try.

Leigh has written his thoughts on the situation at Williams at the moment.

He also found this great video pulling together into a decent narrative all those clips we saw Red Bull film in Austin the other week.

I've got around to writing up my day at the Goodwood Revival, I'd love it if you took a look even if you only gawp at the gorgeous cars. Martin Brundle was there in a Ferrari 250 GTO.

Since I was there I didn't really keep track of the rest of the news in racing, only really that Casey Stoner dominated the MotoGP in Aragon and has essentially got that title wrapped up now, surely.

If you are into IndyCar be sure to follow CEO Randy Bernard on Twitter. As an interesting comparison you can also follow ALMS Race Director Beaux Barfield and COO Scot Elkins.

The entry list for Petit Le Mans is out and has 58 cars on it, only 53 will be allowed to start in a controversial ruling which will affect a couple of domestic ALMS class championships, which might not be allowed to participate. It is good to see Marino Franchitti get a drive in Level 5's new HPD.

Before that though it is the LMS season-closer in Estoril, a fairly weak field since the ILMC competitors will be heading to the US for Petit. Sportscar racing does like to make life more complicated than it needs to be. The LMS in Europe and the ALMS in North America are dying as the money goes into the ILMC, but the latter needs the former to act as feeder series to be able to survive. There's talk IMSA might not renew the ALMS name and will go it alone with cars which are similar, but not quite the same, in 2012. Interesting times for racing falling under ACO rules. I hope it pulls through.

Races this week:

F1 - Singapore (SPC race info)

LMS - Estoril (TV deal largely fell through so could be tough to follow)

NASCAR Cup & Truck - New Hampshire

World Superbike - Imola

178 responses

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:21

    Gosh Pat you've been busy with all the writing. Nice daily :D

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:24

    Gosh Pat you've been busy with all the writing. Nice daily :D

    Several hours to get into the rythym but probably only a couple fo get Goodwood written properly, then 40mins for the Daily but I'd had the tabs loaded for ages which helped :)

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:25

    And to think, all I did this evening was dig out quiz questions for a post tomorrow

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:26

    And to think, all I did this evening was dig out quiz questions for a post tomorrow

    I think I felt bad for going to bed late last night (err early morning) then sleeping until lunchtime, and then doing nothing until evening. :)

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:27

    I've been having another of my insomnia weeks, I'm so tired, except tonight's twist is not getting to sleep at all instead of waking early

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:28

    I think I felt bad for going to bed late last night (err early morning) then sleeping until lunchtime, and then doing nothing until evening. :)

    Ah well if you are on holiday why not enjoy it. I also have the same Annual Leave year, hehe could I take next week off?

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:29

    Is it my imagination or is the font size smaller?

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:29

    I've been having another of my insomnia weeks, I'm so tired, except tonight's twist is not getting to sleep at all instead of waking early

    Ah not good. I felt really out of it so I made myself stay up and then just sleep. Easy to do when on holiday of course.

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:29

    Ah well if you are on holiday why not enjoy it. I also have the same Annual Leave year, hehe could I take next week off?

    If they are anything like mine they won't let you roll it into the next allocation..

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:30

    Ah not good. I felt really out of it so I made myself stay up and then just sleep. Easy to do when on holiday of course.

    I tried that, got up at 4am this morning, stayed up till past midnight and still can't sleep... betcha come 5am I could

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:31

    do you have anything planned for the rest of the week?

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:33

    Is it my imagination or is the font size smaller?

    Smaller in the post than in realtime or dashboard I think

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:35

    do you have anything planned for the rest of the week?

    Not really. I should clear out some old tat because I've got so much clutter in the flat and it doesn't need to be here. Haircut maybe. Was going to put some spray paint on the scratches on the car but apparently it might need filler first (no idea).

    Lots of odd jobs like that.

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:36

    Smaller in the post than in realtime or dashboard I think

    Cool at least it's not just an illusion

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:36

    Lots of odd jobs like that.

    No specific plan though.

    Oh and I was going to try and relearn a database thing for an idea I had for a website but its a ton of work so it might not happen. Might learn iRacing instead if I can find a steering wheel, it sounds less like work.

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:37

    Lots of odd jobs like that.

    That's what I tend to do on holiday too, swap one paid job for another job doing the chores

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:38

    That's what I tend to do on holiday too, swap one paid job for another job doing the chores

    Yeah that's why I want to motivate myself to do it Thursday so that I can spend the rest of the time off doing holiday things like playing games or watching films/TV.

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:38

    Oh and I was going to try and relearn a database thing for an idea I had for a website but its a ton of work so it might not happen. Might learn iRacing instead if I can find a steering wheel, it sounds less like work.

    I don't fancy that, I can cope with bits and pieces of html but that's it, it's like a foreign language to me and I'm getting too old to learn new tricks

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:40

    I don't fancy that, I can cope with bits and pieces of html but that's it, it's like a foreign language to me and I'm getting too old to learn new tricks

    I used to have a website with a bit of PHP and an SQL database, and I had an idea for a more simple one but which has a lot of data (but no imperative to rush it). Meant to spend a bit of time checking to see nobody else has done it.

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:41

    well I think I'm going to give this sleeping malarky another go so I'll say goodnight

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:42

    I used to have a website with a bit of PHP and an SQL database, and I had an idea for a more simple one but which has a lot of data (but no imperative to rush it). Meant to spend a bit of time checking to see nobody else has done it.

    Ooh that sounds fascinating.

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:42

    well I think I'm going to give this sleeping malarky another go so I'll say goodnight

    Me too soon, night.

  • jackie22/09/2011 at 00:42

    Me too soon, night.

    night, hope you sleep well

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 00:44

    Ooh that sounds fascinating.

    I'm quite excited by it. :)

    But I don't want to be trapped by it and have it turn into a chore or an unpaid job.

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 08:15

    Check out this Best Buy flyer from 1996! http://gregarious24.imgur.com/best_buy_flyer_september_1996

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 08:15

    Morning all

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 08:28

    I was a bit busy last night;

    http://theformulaoneandmotorsportsarchive.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/red-bull-powering-around-austin/

    ...and...

    http://theformulaoneandmotorsportsarchive.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/on-the-other-hand/

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 08:33

    I was a bit busy last night;

    You were indeed, sir!

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 08:39

    Check out this Best Buy flyer from 1996! gregarious24.imgu…er_september_1996

    133MHz !!

    :D

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 08:43

    Check out this Best Buy flyer from 1996! gregarious24.imgu…er_september_1996

    macarena :-)

    the only things that did not change much in 15 years are the cordless phones :-)

    what will we think 15 years from now about posters from 2011 ....

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 08:44

    what will we think 15 years from now about posters from 2011 ....

    2GB external hard drive - bah, that's nothing !!

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 08:45

    133MHz !!

    4MB RAM upgrade!

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 08:45

    2GB external hard drive - bah, that's nothing !!

    that is nothing today already :-) mine is 2TB ...

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 08:48

    that is nothing today already :-) mine is 2TB ...

    That is, of course, what I meant (D'oh!)

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 08:49

    that is nothing today already :-) mine is 2TB ...

    They still used disks in 2011?

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 08:50

    Webbo says the drivers can pick the track just by listening to an engine note: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/formula_one/15015576.stm

    Wow.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 08:50

    They still used disks in 2011?

    I wonder what will be retro in a post-ironic sense in 15 years?

  • That'll be the Day22/09/2011 at 09:00

    How well do you know your Formula 1 history?

    The book That'll be the Day: 365 F1 Stories takes a look at significant moments or quirky happenings on this day in Grand Prix history. Can you guess what event the following describes?

    - What was the name of the unusual six-wheeled car that Tyrrell unveiled on this day in 1975?

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 09:00

    - What was the name of the unusual six-wheeled car that Tyrrell unveiled on this day in 1975?

    The P34

    (Go me)

    :)

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 09:15

    - What was the name of the unusual six-wheeled car that Tyrrell unveiled on this day in 1975?

    Hotdog.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 09:16

    Hotdog.

    Could have swore that was Jacques Laffitte's breakfast?

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 09:25

    24 hours from now I will be settling down with beer in hand at Turns 1 - 2 and getting ready for FP1 ...

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 09:32

    24 hours from now I will be settling down with beer in hand at Turns 1 - 2 and getting ready for FP1 ...

    24 hours from now, I'll be in work swearing at my computer, wondering why my cup of tea has gone stale

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 09:39

    I wonder what will be retro in a post-ironic sense in 15 years?

    Thinking of things from a bygone age...

    http://www.tablesoccer.cc/images/subbuteo/sub_pset_box_back800x525.jpg

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 09:44

    24 hours from now, I'll be in work swearing at my computer, wondering why my cup of tea has gone stale

    :D It's funny and sad at the same time.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 09:44

    :D It's funny and sad at the same time.

    Moreso the latter to be honest.

    :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 09:48

    So, Lucozade are sponsoring McLaren. The sponsorship drivel I've heard so far this morning is unbelievable.

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 09:52

    So, Lucozade are sponsoring McLaren. The sponsorship drivel I've heard so far this morning is unbelievable.

    What else have you heard?

    Looks like Lucozade will take Aigo's spot in the overalls. I wonder if Aigo is still a sponsor/partner.

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 09:54

    Looks like Lucozade will take Aigo's spot in the overalls. I wonder if Aigo is still a sponsor/partner.

    Frankly I have no idea how a company like Aigo managed to afford McLaren sponsorship, seriously ...

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 09:56

    looks like Shakira or Linkin Park would require some race action sacrifice as they perform quite far from my seats, so Shaggy and Boy George then ...

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 09:57

    What else have you heard?

    Looks like Lucozade will take Aigo's spot in the overalls. I wonder if Aigo is still a sponsor/partner.

    Just imagine the most utterly dire corporate speak about how the team and the drink are great partners, followed by Lewis and Jenson warbling on about te great hydration effects of Lucozade.

    Dear Lord, I say you couldn't make this stuff up, but some idiot somewhere has !!

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 10:03

    Thinking of things from a bygone age...

    Used to love playing that!

  • Amy22/09/2011 at 10:18

    Oh my god view is amazing.

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 10:19

    Oh my god view is amazing.

    Is that where you are watching the race from?

  • Amy22/09/2011 at 10:20

    Is that where you are watching the race from?

    no, we've got seats at turn 3

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 10:21

    no, we've got seats at turn 3

    Sounds like a good spot.

  • Amy22/09/2011 at 10:26

    Sounds like a good spot.

    I'll watch the safety car practice tonight from the balcony though and hopefully spot some drivers doing their track walk

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 10:27

    I'll watch the safety car practice tonight from the balcony though and hopefully spot some drivers doing their track walk

    You might see Crofty running...

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 11:46

    Hmm:

    @emmabortnik Rubens said last night that driving at this race is like driving in HD. rather you than me @rubarrichello

    Will he have to pay £400 to do that in 2012?

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 11:58

    Indian circuit coming along very well. Nearly complete

    http://www.f1katewalker.com/1/post/2011/09/progress-photos-indian-grand-prix.html

  • Jeremy22/09/2011 at 12:03

    Fun time waster:

    http://www.drawastickman.com/

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 12:14

    Indian circuit coming along very well. Nearly complete

    www.f1katewalker.…n-grand-prix.html

    Looks okay but hard to tell from those

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 12:14

    Interesting post from Stuart on Kimi's future

    http://www.stuartcodling.com/2011/09/what-next-for-kimi-raikkonen/

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 12:57

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... now I get it...

    I was wondering why all these GP3 drivers were turning up in British F3 this weekend - I forgot they need to compete in at least one F3 race to be eligible for Macau

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 13:08

    I was wondering why all these GP3 drivers were turning up in British F3 this weekend - I forgot they need to compete in at least one F3 race to be eligible for Macau

    that reminds it is time to get the tickets sorted out, 2 months to go ...

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 13:15

    Interesting post from Stuart on Kimi's future

    Awesome. The one about Surtees is great too.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 13:17

    Just got my hands on the McLaren / Lucozade press release. This is priceless in its awfulness.

    In addition to branding on the car and drivers overalls, Lucozade will supply Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton and Vodafone McLaren Mercedes with their range of sports nutrition products that will play an integral role in preparation, performance and recovery in one of the most physically and mentally demanding sports in the world.

    Lewis Hamilton said:

    “I think this partnership with Lucozade will be fantastic for the team. Everyone within our team needs to be fresh and sharp in order to operate at their peak: when you’re working in busy, hot environments and you’re pushing yourself to the limit, it’s vital that you keep yourself healthy and hydrated. Hydration in sport is important – and that’s why an isotonic drink such as Lucozade is a natural fit for Vodafone McLaren Mercedes.”

    Jenson Button added:

    “As a grand prix driver and an athlete, I completely understand the need to keep my body refreshed and hydrated before, during and after exercise. If you’re pushing yourself to the limit, then your body needs to refuel – and Lucozade products are a great way to achieve that. Lucozade will really give the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes team the reassurance to tackle the stress and physical strain of races in some of the world’s hottest countries with renewed effort, confidence and dedication. I’m really looking forward to working with Lucozade to help them develop their range of fitness and isotonic drinks to cope with the extreme demands of Formula 1.”

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 13:18

    It continues:

    Lucozade’s drinks and products will be available to the whole team and Lucozade and Vodafone McLaren Mercedes are also working together to formulate a new bespoke product to meet the specific requirements of Formula 1. Vodafone McLaren Mercedes team doctor Aki Hintsa said:

    “People often think of the unique demands placed on the human body during a grand prix, but few consider the overall human performance that’s needed to maintain the strength and spirit of a team of almost 100 individuals as they travel across the world for nine months of the year. Whether it’s spending long days working outdoors in the cold temperatures of the European winter, or spending race weekends in hot and humid countries like Malaysia, Singapore and India, effective physical and mental co-ordination through hydration is vital. Accordingly, our performance partnership with Lucozade will see the team provided with its leading and research-led range of sport drinks for different environmental and physiological requirements, which contain both electrolytes and carbohydrates.”

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 13:20

    Brilliant considering a few months back Hamilton knocked Red Bull for "only being an energy drinks company".

    There might be a post in there somewhere.

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 13:25

    Pressdog has a thoughtful post as well, can't link it directly as he's taken to swearing a lot more recently, but look for the one about a sellers market.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 13:26

    Pressdog has a thoughtful post as well, can't link it directly as he's taken to swearing a lot more recently, but look for the one about a sellers market.

    Just looking now... no rant from Dylan yet, what a shock.

  • Littlepurplegoth22/09/2011 at 13:42

    Brilliant considering a few months back Hamilton knocked Red Bull for "only being an energy drinks company".

    There might be a post in there somewhere.

    Oooo this is a 'thing' of mine ATM.... Collab?

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 13:43

    Oooo this is a 'thing' of mine ATM.... Collab?

    Possible. Mine will be something of a rant though.

    :)

  • Amy22/09/2011 at 14:01

    woohoo i have a gig of data, time to twitpic all i see

  • Nick (@Twiger)22/09/2011 at 14:09

    Quite a surreal day, my boss took me to the mall in his ferrari and i spent a small fortune on macs for the conference room!

    I have spent the rest of the day playing around with them to get them set up

    I Love the magic trackpad!

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 14:10

    @Pat,

    I responded to PDog's post - could you tell me if I'm being an idiot (or more importantly, just plain wrong)?

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 14:42

    @Pat,

    I responded to PDog's post - could you tell me if I'm being an idiot (or more importantly, just plain wrong)?

    I think you're spot on

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 14:49

    Just looking now... no rant from Dylan yet, what a shock.

    Speaking of...

    http://www.grabbagsports.com/2011/09/fond-farewell-for-indycar.html

    Does it fit IndyCar’s best interests? To a xenophobe it sure doesn’t, but neither does Sao Paulo, Porto Alegre, undisclosed future China race, or street races, or road races, or whatever… but we need to ignore crazy internet people

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 14:49

    Quite a surreal day, my boss took me to the mall in his ferrari and i spent a small fortune on macs for the conference room!

    Sounds like fun :)

  • Amy22/09/2011 at 14:51

    I have moved the desk furniture to the balcony as sitting on a swively chair to be nosey is less painful than standing. Plus a table to hold beverages and cameras of course

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 15:26

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... now I get it...

    I was wondering why all these GP3 drivers were turning up in British F3 this weekend - I forgot they need to compete in at least one F3 race to be eligible for Macau

    Ahhh, now I get it!

    I wonder if GP3 can somehow nab Macau. It would be a huge boon for them.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 15:27

    I wonder if GP3 can somehow nab Macau. It would be a huge boon for them.

    Not a chance. Jean Todt just invented a series to go around Macau - it's part of the FIA International F3 Trophy Series. Macau isn't going anywhere.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 15:29

    I wonder if GP3 can somehow nab Macau. It would be a huge boon for them.

    Besides, GP3 cars would be diabolical at Macau. They are truly the worst sounding cars I've ever heard.

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 15:31

    I wonder if GP3 can somehow nab Macau. It would be a huge boon for them.

    Not a chance. Jean Todt just invented a series to go around Macau - it's part of the FIA International F3 Trophy Series. Macau isn't going anywhere.

    Is that brand-new? What else is in the series?

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 15:32

    Besides, GP3 cars would be diabolical at Macau. They are truly the worst sounding cars I've ever heard.

    AGreed!

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 15:32

    Is that brand-new? What else is in the series?

    Inaugural season. This year it was Pau, Hockenheim, Spa, Zandvoort, Macau -- with Korea itching to get onboard.

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 16:01

    I wonder if GP3 can somehow nab Macau. It would be a huge boon for them.

    there isn't much space in the time schedule for another race. they are barely managing to fit in all the events they have now. safety cars and neverending debris clean up do not make that time management any easier :-)

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 16:02

    there isn't much space in the time schedule for another race. they are barely managing to fit in all the events they have now. safety cars and neverending debris clean up do not make that time management any easier :-)

    i was actually thinking of GP3 replacing F3 - they are practically competing for the same driver bracket now. given what Leigh said, doesn't look likely though.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:02

    there isn't much space in the time schedule for another race. they are barely managing to fit in all the events they have now. safety cars and neverending debris clean up do not make that time management any easier :-)

    I think it might have been in reference to replacing F3. Not going to happen any time soon though.

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 16:03

    i was actually thinking of GP3 replacing F3 - they are practically competing for the same driver bracket now. given what Leigh said, doesn't look likely though.

    they would not do that, GP3 is nothing, F3 is a tradition. that would be a big step back for Macau ...

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:03

    hey are practically competing for the same driver bracket now. given what Leigh said, doesn't look likely though.

    I'm not convinced they are to be honest - GP3's biggest rival right now may be a combination of both F3 and Formula Renault 2.0 Eurocup

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:05

    I'm not convinced they are to be honest - GP3's biggest rival right now may be a combination of both F3 and Formula Renault 2.0 Eurocup

    I should add, from my chats to British F3 drivers recently, the big pull is World Series by Renault and not GP2...

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 16:06

    they would not do that, GP3 is nothing, F3 is a tradition. that would be a big step back for Macau ...

    Macau was there for decades before the F3 came to town. Bigger traditions have been broken.

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 16:07

    I'm not convinced they are to be honest - GP3's biggest rival right now may be a combination of both F3 and Formula Renault 2.0 Eurocup

    I should add, from my chats to British F3 drivers recently, the big pull is World Series by Renault and not GP2...

    To be fair, there is good reason behind that. F1's main feeder series have never really produced a lot of champions. Well, they've only produced one - Lewis.

    That said, most BF3 drivers aim for WSR since GP2 teams get their drivers from GP3 teams now. BF3 drivers rarely get a look in.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:09

    To be fair, there is good reason behind that. F1's main feeder series have never really produced a lot of champions. Well, they've only produced one - Lewis.

    World Series by Renault hasn't produced a single champion yet.

    That said, most BF3 drivers aim for WSR since GP2 teams get their drivers from GP3 teams now. BF3 drivers rarely get a look in.

    Most of the same teams operate across all of the lower formulae, so it hardly matters

  • F1Wolf22/09/2011 at 16:09

    Macau was there for decades before the F3 came to town. Bigger traditions have been broken.

    yep, but they surely do not want to replace their star event with GP3 ...

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 16:09

    World Series by Renault hasn't produced a single champion yet.

    Alonso (when it was WS Nissan)

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 16:10

    That said, most BF3 drivers aim for WSR since GP2 teams get their drivers from GP3 teams now. BF3 drivers rarely get a look in.

    also the WSR budget is smaller

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:11

    also the WSR budget is smaller

    Plus, as with GP2 & GP3, WSR also has several F1 teams with either direct or indirect involvement

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:13

    Alonso (when it was WS Nissan)

    True, but even that was long before the World Series. It was only a Spanish national series back then

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 16:17

    World Series by Renault hasn't produced a single champion yet.

    Alonso (when it was WS Nissan)

    Vettel?

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:17

    Vettel?

    F3 Euro Series

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:17

    F3 Euro Series

    ...which he lost to di Resta in 2006

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 16:18

    World Series by Renault hasn't produced a single champion yet.

    Vettel?

  • Journeyer22/09/2011 at 16:21

    World Series by Renault hasn't produced a single champion yet.

    Vettel?

    Funny - I said the same thing. Checking Wiki, he didn't win the title, but he did win on his debut weekend in the series.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 16:24

    Any way folks, I'm off - back later.

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 16:34

    Funny - I said the same thing. Checking Wiki, he didn't win the title, but he did win on his debut weekend in the series.

    Yeah sorry I didn't see that ;)

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 16:42

    Funny - I said the same thing. Checking Wiki, he didn't win the title, but he did win on his debut weekend in the series.

    He would've won it, if Red Bull didn't pluck him out to race in F1

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 16:57

    Evening all!

    It's heeeeeeeeeere! http://twitpic.com/6osz3h

  • James22/09/2011 at 16:59

    It's heeeeeeeeeere! http://twitpic.com/6osz3h

    I have mine too *says nothing more*

  • Sidepodcast Classics22/09/2011 at 17:00

    Enjoy a little something from the Sidepodcast back catalogue.

    - Every Now and Then I Fall Apart

    Originally published 18 June 2008.

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 17:21

    My first lap as Rubens at Montreal can only be described as more Maldonado.

    Actually, more Ide. Much, much, much more Yuji Ide.

  • James22/09/2011 at 17:23

    My first lap as Rubens at Montreal can only be described as more Maldonado.

    Actually, more Ide. Much, much, much more Yuji Ide.

    Hehe. how is it on the Xbox?

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 17:25

    Hehe. how is it on the Xbox?

    A lot more different to last year from what I was expecting in terms of the handling but reeeeeally enjoying it

    Who knew a lap of Montreal could last 4 minutes!

  • James22/09/2011 at 17:40

    Who knew a lap of Montreal could last 4 minutes!

    :D

    DRS is the hardest bit to get to grips with I found.

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 17:43

    DRS is the hardest bit to get to grips with I found.

    With no traction control on it is actually mental. Although I've already found out what happens if you activate it too early following a corner plenty of times

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 17:48

    Apparently a day after changing Facebook, Facebook is changing again?

  • James22/09/2011 at 17:50

    Apparently a day after changing Facebook, Facebook is changing again?

    Yep, more copying going on :D

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 18:06

    Rubens and Mr.C. have an affinity: http://twitter.com/#!/rubarrichello/status/116936047862087680

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 18:09

    Rubens and Mr.C. have an affinity: twitter.com/#!/ru…16936047862087680

    :D

  • Marti22/09/2011 at 18:37

    Hello everyone!

    Finally my iPod Touch has arrived

    Wohoo!

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 19:10

    Woah.... CERN are reporting they've found particles travelling faster than the speed of light. That could be huge!!

  • Bassano22/09/2011 at 19:14

    Woah.... CERN are reporting they've found particles travelling faster than the speed of light. That could be huge!!

    They're gonna have to call them Neweys

  • RubberGoat22/09/2011 at 19:14

    Woah.... CERN are reporting they've found particles travelling faster than the speed of light. That could be huge!!

    Amazing if it's true...

  • Bassano22/09/2011 at 19:18

    Evening. Any idea what this may be?

    @F1Kate: Random #FIA #F1 news... There's a meeting of the #WMSC in Singapore tomorrow morning. Not sure if it's scheduled or extraordinary, though.

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 19:20

    @F1Kate: Random #FIA #F1 news... There's a meeting of the #WMSC in Singapore tomorrow morning. Not sure if it's scheduled or extraordinary, though.

    Someone probably has a badge stitched on their racesuit in wool instead of cotton or something

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 19:21

    Woah.... CERN are reporting they've found particles travelling faster than the speed of light. That could be huge!!

    I bet it is them damned seagulls again. I have always refused to believe the light speed limit. Maybe I just don't like speed limits. I so hope this is true because it is going to make a lot of very clever people feel really stupid.

    Anything that makes people question their fundamental beliefs is a great thing. I just hope they don't try to rush out a quick explanation

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 19:22

    Evening. Any idea what this may be?

    News to me

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 19:22

    Someone probably has a badge stitched on their racesuit in wool instead of cotton or something

    :D

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 19:22

    They're gonna have to call them Neweys

    :)

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 19:23

    I bet it is them damned seagulls again. I have always refused to believe the light speed limit. Maybe I just don't like speed limits. I so hope this is true because it is going to make a lot of very clever people feel really stupid.

    EINSTEIN!!! *shakes fist*

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 19:24

    I bet it is them damned seagulls again. I have always refused to believe the light speed limit. Maybe I just don't like speed limits. I so hope this is true because it is going to make a lot of very clever people feel really stupid.

    Heheh, and it goes to show that it is dangerous to rely on something as fact in a field like this.

    Anything that makes people question their fundamental beliefs is a great thing. I just hope they don't try to rush out a quick explanation

    Same here which is why I liked the quotes from the Italian lab which was at the other end of the beam sent from CERN.

    "My dream would be that another, independent experiment finds the same thing - then I would be relieved. We are not claiming things, we want just to be helped by the community in understanding our crazy result - because it is crazy".

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 19:25

    EINSTEIN!!! *shakes fist*

    I am sure a lot of scientists even though they would deny it would not dare question Einstein even though his findings should be subject to the same scrutiny as anyone else's

  • Bassano22/09/2011 at 19:27

    I hope this isn't similar to wind tunnel calibration :)

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 19:28

    Heheh, and it goes to show that it is dangerous to rely on something as fact in a field like this.

    It could be the cold fusion thing all over again and someone has made some minor error and they can't repeat the result.

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 19:30

    I hope this isn't similar to wind tunnel calibration :)

    They are only dealing with particles that spontaneously change their nature so nowhere near as complicated as wind tunnels. It does mean that it should be possible to create a wind tunnel where the air moves faster than the speed of light though which will make the maths a lot more complicated

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 19:50

    I just realised the most important implication of CERN's findings. It means Star Trek was right all along and all those physicists who looked down their nose at it were wrong.

  • jpancoast22/09/2011 at 19:53

    I just realised the most important implication of CERN's findings. It means Star Trek was right all along and all those physicists who looked down their nose at it were wrong.

    IF CERN is correct. They're asking for others to verify.

  • jpancoast22/09/2011 at 19:57

    IF CERN is correct. They're asking for others to verify.

    I really hope they're right. The only thing more exciting than having important theories of science proven right is when they're proven wrong.

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 19:58

    IF CERN is correct. They're asking for others to verify.

    They would not go public unless they were certain. They have repeated this hundreds of times. They are only phrasing it the way they are so they have a get out of jail free if it turns out to be like cold fusion and can't be repeated.

    I think this is a bit like pilots who saw ufos but wouldn't report them because they thought they would be grounded. They definitely saw them but didn't want to say they saw them.

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:00

    I really hope they're right. The only thing more exciting than having important theories of science proven right is when they're proven wrong.

    The beauty of science is everything is hypothesis and people trying to disprove the currently accepted wisdom to gain a better picture. When things become accepted fact and go unchallenged science becomes too much like a religion with tenets that are above question.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:04

    Evening folks,

    Finally catching Sunday's IndyCar race - poor is the best word for it.

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:05

    Finally catching Sunday's IndyCar race - poor is the best word for it.

    I forgot all about it and didn't watch at all.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:06

    I forgot all about it and didn't watch at all.

    Really not missing anything at all.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:10

    Am reminded once again just how bloody awful the US commentary team are.

  • Alison22/09/2011 at 20:24

    I thought my course would be easier than a day at work. How wrong was I??? This is me just getting in now.

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:25

    I thought my course would be easier than a day at work. How wrong was I??? This is me just getting in now.

    You want an easy day at a course with a company you are leaving.

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:26

    I thought my course would be easier than a day at work. How wrong was I??? This is me just getting in now.

    Today's big news from sidepodscience correspondent Lukeh

    http://sidepodcast.com/post/daily-22nd-september-2011/comments#comment-1173029

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 20:28

    Today's big news from sidepodscience correspondent Lukeh

    thank you Steven. I'm standing here outside CERN, where I can confirm that the scientists have indeed ordered a Meat Feast Deep Pan and, despite the concerns of many, a Veggie Surprise Italian Base too. We can only assume these will lead to further scientific discoveries within the next few hours. Back to you Steven.

  • Alison22/09/2011 at 20:29

    You want an easy day at a course with a company you are leaving.

    Why not....!

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:31

    thank you Steven. I'm standing here outside CERN, where I can confirm that the scientists have indeed ordered a Meat Feast Deep Pan and, despite the concerns of many, a Veggie Surprise Italian Base too. We can only assume these will lead to further scientific discoveries within the next few hours. Back to you Steven.

    Thanks Lukeh

    And now the weather......

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:32

    Why not....!

    You could have left early

  • Alison22/09/2011 at 20:32

    And now the weather......

    It's September, what did you expect?

    #ilovejeremypaxman

  • Lukeh22/09/2011 at 20:32

    #ilovejeremypaxman

    :D

    Love that clip.

  • Alison22/09/2011 at 20:32

    You could have left early

    Erm no :( It was a group of 6 of us. They may have noticed.

  • jpancoast22/09/2011 at 20:34

    Finally catching Sunday's IndyCar race - poor is the best word for it.

    The one at Motegi?

    I honestly watched it for a few minutes live and was thoroughly confused. TV listings said it was Qualifying. But it obviously wasn't qualifying because of the graphics. But it certainly didn't look like a race, either.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:35

    Erm no :( It was a group of 6 of us. They may have noticed.

    Be a maverick and walk out with your jacket swinging over your shoulder

    :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:36

    I honestly watched it for a few minutes live and was thoroughly confused. TV listings said it was Qualifying. But it obviously wasn't qualifying because of the graphics. But it certainly didn't look like a race, either.

    There was no qualifying show, so they put it in the race show. The race (I'm now on lap 39) is awful, but it's made worse by the most unbelievably bad commentary team conceivable.

  • jpancoast22/09/2011 at 20:37

    There was no qualifying show, so they put it in the race show. The race (I'm now on lap 39) is awful, but it's made worse by the most unbelievably bad commentary team conceivable.

    are you watching the US VS (Versus) crew?

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:38

    are you watching the US VS (Versus) crew?

    Yep - they do the English language world feed I believe. Just dire....

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 20:38

    Yep - they do the English language world feed I believe. Just dire....

    They were commentating from a studio in Indianapolis, not live in Motegi.

  • jpancoast22/09/2011 at 20:38

    Yep - they do the English language world feed I believe. Just dire....

    I'm really, REALLY sorry you guys have to hear them.

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:40

    They were commentating from a studio in Indianapolis, not live in Motegi.

    That is ridiculous. That sort of amateurism belongs in the 70s

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:40

    They were commentating from a studio in Indianapolis, not live in Motegi.

    They're still garbage on a weekly basis. They actually manage to be worse than Marty Reid and his fellow toads on the NASCAR broadcast.

    Bob Jenkins, Wally Dallnbach Jr and Jon Beekhus (sp?) are genuinely the worst commentators I ave ever heard. J Legard is beyond elegant compared to these guys.

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 20:41

    They're still garbage on a weekly basis. They actually manage to be worse than Marty Reid and his fellow toads on the NASCAR broadcast.

    But Marty Reid was even worse when he did IndyCar.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:41

    I mean, seriously...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad4GVeE3MZc&feature=player_detailpage#t=211s

  • jpancoast22/09/2011 at 20:41

    They were commentating from a studio in Indianapolis, not live in Motegi.

    It doesn't make a lick of difference if they're at the race or in Indy. They're always terrible.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:41

    But Marty Reid was even worse when he did IndyCar.

    He was a far better pit reporter than commentator

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 20:42

    That is ridiculous. That sort of amateurism belongs in the 70s

    Just for the flyaway. They had Kevin Lee on the ground doing pit reports. Just him, not the usual 2 or 3 reporters. Same as when ESPN sent Jack Arute alone when they did this race.

    I haven't watched this race and I don't know if I will.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:42

    I mean, seriously...

    www.youtube.com/w…detailpage#t=211s

    They have as much panache as a bored tree

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:43

    They have as much panache as a bored tree

    :lol:

  • jpancoast22/09/2011 at 20:43

    Just for the flyaway. They had Kevin Lee on the ground doing pit reports. Just him, not the usual 2 or 3 reporters. Same as when ESPN sent Jack Arute alone when they did this race.

    Speed does this for the F1 coverage, and they're nowhere near as bad as the VS coverage is at all times.

  • Pat W22/09/2011 at 20:44

    I mean, seriously...

    www.youtube.com/w…detailpage#t=211s

    Oh wow that is much worse than usual.

    I read a blog post earlier from Allen Wedge and he had a clip of Versus a couple of years ago from Motegi and it was much better.

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:47

    I mean, seriously...

    That is awful. They are hunting for anything to talk about. You could get away with that in the 70s with someone like Murray Walker but now with people who had a personality bypass it just comes off as pathetic

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:47

    Oh wow that is much worse than usual.

    I cannot stand the buddy-buddy thing they have going on. They just rob everything of any essence and vibrancy.

    They would make a great race dull.

  • Leigh O'Gorman22/09/2011 at 20:48

    Now this is much, much better

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgYru3uLuoo

    :)

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 20:53

    Now this is much, much better

    Much better

  • Steven Roy22/09/2011 at 21:35

    Stuart has a very interesting post on Kimi

    http://www.stuartcodling.com/2011/09/what-next-for-kimi-raikkonen/