It's the quiet before the storm now, with Free Practice under our belts and a whole day of confusion before we get to see qualifying. Hands up who thought it was the weekend today? Meanwhile, here's what we're talking about:
- The Hamiltonometer has hit the highs, with Monaco giving him a boost so he now says: "I love this place – it reminds me how much I love this sport, why I love racing and why I love Formula 1." I dread to think what will happen when we get to Valencia.
- Following the announcement of all those new teams, now there's a lot of backtracking going on with a few saying they have no intention of making the big leap up to F1. It's hardly surprising that all these rumours aren't true, but I bet Max is cursing each one.
- Trulli has said it is much too early to write off Toyota's season as over, despite the lack of success they've seen recently. Today they were towards the wrong end of the timesheets, but apparently this isn't the end of the world as we know it. BMW are also still talking the talk, with Theissen encouraging his team not to give up. At what point will they switch to 2010 though? When they've decided whether they'll be in it or not?
That'll do for now. As it's Friday, let us know what you're up to for the weekend - it's a bank holiday weekend in the UK again, so plenty of time to recover from Monaco. As ever, I'll see you in the comments.
What happened to the Desktop doohickey? I can't find a download link to it anymore...
sorry, temporarily pulled it. the funny extended character is causing us too much work. will return upon release and successful test of fix.
would you rather us use the normal doohickey instead until further notice? If it's causing inconvienence I woudl happily move back to the land of browsers
what exactly is wrong with it? i'm using it as we speak
I haven't been able to look at much news about practice and I'll read it after (or during :-) ) work tomorrow, so for me it's a normal schedule..Other things this weekend: play golf on Sat, Indy 500 if I can get a feed, watch some golf on BBC during weekend, do lots of homework on the supposed 'holiday'..
Speaking of Doohickey, I refereshed to get the new thread and it wouldn't let me press the "Post Comment" button, it was greyed out. I could get the text box up and that was it.
sometimes a random character appears in a comment. no reason and no pattern.
NP, just thought I'd try it now I have Abode's hair installed on my computer...
oh this was on the normal one not the fancy one
Help Needed. There was a Kimi Raikkonen video on youtube about a couple years ago about him in his Mclaren days. The song was great and I'm looking for it. It was a hard rock/Alt song, part of it went: You f***ed up, you threw it all away. Don't recall if that's in the right order in the song. I am running a 5K on Mon and I want that in the shuffle. Please help
nah, your fine. totally underestimated the take up of it. expected everyone to say "meh" and carry on with browsers.
temporarily stopping anyone else from getting attached to it though :)
Are you sure you want a song like that when you're running? Go for some Techno!!!
nah it's great :)
Oh :-( I feel unattached
If you define it as an 'application' under Chrome, it's almost like the Desktop Doohickey... :-)
it's a bug. if you refresh, you have to do a hard-refresh to get the post button back. basically hold shift and refresh pr close your browser.
that'll be fixed the same time as desktop.
Oki doki. Best to make sure though. :)
If your running a 5K of your own accord... i doubt there is anything i can do to help
No, most of the songs I run to are ones from the GP videos and such, mostly hard rock. Anyone remember the video. Most of it seemed to deal with his bad luck in 2005, the year he should have been WDC
Exersize! I remember that
Formula Renault on ITV1
will yell when it's back.
that is a very good plan!
Got it, ta.
Oh now I have to learn how to use Chrome....:-(
Anyone think Amy would know?
From Brands Hatch!? I know they run it later on, but it's like 4 rounds behind lol
Ah, thanks. Interesting angle for the onboard camera.
It makes the internet a much nicer place!
I used to use it, but couldnt deal with having more than 1 home page.
Actually I had big problems (lots of garbled text) when I first installed it and went back to the browser. I forgot to 'submit a bug' back then :P . I might try once more when it's released again...
Doesn't have Adblock and NoScript though does it?
Did you use the grid thing?
I dont really have a home page any more... Its liberating!
I'm not totally convinced on it yet for everyday use. But for running stand-alone web applications as Gmail or the Doohickey it's pretty nice.
Yeah that grid thing. Thing is, i always have my homepage as BBC because it has news and F1, but i wouldn't visit it during normal browsing. So it's not like it would be on my grid.
Oh well, night all!!
oh and my version blocked hotmail, so i had to use firefox for that anyway
night jon.
good night
Probably
LOL. Surely not.
Night
I have a bookmark bar stuffed full of sites just using favicons at the top of that page for my less used sites, disappears for normal browsing though
Sounds good. I am off to Germany tomorrow to buy beer, sausages and electronics. I plan to try and finish my F1 stats this weekend, watch the quallies, keep tabs on the Nurburgring 24 hours, the Indy 500, attend a meeting to plan the Le Mans trip and somehow fit in the Monaco GP as I'll miss the Live broadcast :(
When is the Nurburgring 24? Is there a stream?
What are you doing in your spare time then?
If count following racing as a hobby, then I don't know what spare time is...
I imagine Gavin will run into the same problem I will have. Trying to do too much stuff in too little time. :-)
Drinking the beer and eating the sausage I assume
Sat - Sun. I'll be looking for a stream at some stage.
Radio Le Mans have commentary (audio only)
Amen to that!
I hate doing bios so I decided for twitter I would use the line Benji used earlier :D
https://twitter.com/stevenroy27
Story of my life mate!
that is brilliant :)
what's the pic btw?
Kind of difficult to get any sort of decent video feed / live timing of that race
OK why is my tweetdeck completely blank?
Ah they do? Excellent. Last I heard (some time ago) was it was all up in the air.
have you logged in?
Starts at 4pm German time.
Yup. Logged in - it says rate limit exceeded at the bottom - but my API is 36%???
The little helmet was one DC wore as a tribute to Colin McRae and the background pic is Gilles at Zandvoort completely ignoring the fact that he has no left rear wheel or suspension. He got it back to the pits and berated his crew because they wouldn't fit a new wheel. They tried to explain that there was nothing left to attach a wheel too.
i recognised the helmet, but the 3-wheeled wagon is new to me. that is rather fantastic.
give it half an hour, it'll come back to life. have yet to fully understand rate limits.
Didn't know how to give up ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNJ-1frbzZA
In the settings under Twitter API, what does it say there? Under 100%?
Send a tweet and see what happens.
Longer version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnpf_9bAUu8
murray's disbelief says it all.
This Google Chrome application thingy works great
It was 36% - now it's sprang back into life again!
Just showed what the guy was like. The whole lap was driven with one hand in the air to let everyone else know he was going slowly and he never got in the way of another driver despite only having two wheels in contact with the road most of the time. A whole lap and only 4 or 5 cars passed him.
He played to different rules to anyone else.
Ah thought you were referring to the bit at the top of the window.
The FRenault programme is now on Thruxton
Louise Goodman introduced it from Thruxton
But you have to wonder why he did it when (a) he'd lost so much time and (b) he could have seriously injured himself?
Remaining API 97/100 resets 2:32
Erm... yup?
Why did Schumacher do it at Spa?
Yeah that's good. You can tweet 97 more times in the next hour.
Thats simply awesome, i know i will spend the rest of the evening watching classic f1 on youtube.
thanks!
Tell you what, FRenaults on telly at Thruxton are more fun than watching them in person at Thruxton. All down to the onboard cameras in the quick stuff which is out of bounds.
As Nigel Roebuck once said he was the only one out there working without a safety net. With his attitude to risk that was nothing. He thought it was just a puncture which at the start it was so in his mind it was necessary to get to th pits as quickly as possible to get back into the race.
Cars were a lot less reliable then so losing 30 seconds was no big deal.
So he could punch DC
I'm going home.
Good night all
:-) :-)
night guille2306.
I am so glad I chose that picture now
Good night guille
Any other recommendations for awesome races?
i think we need a wiki page...
one second.
Donnington 1993
I was there :)
Everything that was on the BBC's classic races thing last night.
Ha! Thought I spied you in the crowd ;-)
Watched them all... twice!
Dijon 1979. The greatest piece of racing ever. Try youtube. There are hundreds of clips of the last 3 or 4 laps
Finns in F Renault. And with Mika Salo connections. Just as well Amy is sleeping.
Nurbergring 1973 is a good view of the old track
Cheers, just watching highlights of Aus 92' at the moment
Monaco 1981. Gilles defying the laws of physics by winning Monaco in a car that would not go round corners and had a light switch throttle
feel free to add any classic moments you come across here:
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/F1+Stuff+You+Need+to+See
A few good Aussi races from the 80s and 90s. Mansell's tyre explosion is a good one. Also Senna's last win in 93
Will get thinking of more races to add to the list, and hopefully tomorrow night I will have time to catch up with some more stuff.
Night all.
night pat.
Night,
Just watching spa 2000 with THE overtake.
Cant find a clean clip to add to the wiki though
im not sleeping im working! And by working i mean sitting at my desk reading feb 1999 racing line. Current article is a feature on the mp4/1 and how wonderful carbon fibre is. and yes i do recall the song from the kimi vid, no idea what it is though.
Wasn't that more like 1981 or 82 or thereabouts?
Was just watching Mika Salo's god son in British Formula Renault. I think it was Matias Laine but I am not sure.
MP4/1 was 81/82
Thought so. A great relief after the M28 and M29
I love google. Within 10 seconds I found the name of a song I heard in a club 2 weeks ago that I had no idea who the artist was or anything!
Have you got an iPhone? Shazam is great for that
No an iTouch only :(
It's annoying they didn't put a Mic on them. I was lucky to get an iPhone from work.
yep 1981 it debuted. Old racing line has heaps of historical features which is odd considering rons column at the start of the issue says "i am well known amongst my colleagues not to dwell too much on historical motor racing matters"
The Day of Politik has begun http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6337713.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=796995
Bernie could sue Ferrari if they walk away
seems fair enough. would it be enough for ferrari to give a damn though?
Probably not, if they really want to go they will. If they go for a breakaway i expect bernie would be involved to some degree as well.
But it is another tick in the 'stay' column, and it ads to the cost of trying to relaunch Ferrari in a sportscar series. It also gives the other teams who arent so wealthy something to think about. The times is so often bernie's mouthpiece
ahh yes, of course. good point.
of course, the big question is, what if a majority, if not all, of the current teams walk away to organize a breakaway? i don't think bernie will sue of all of them, when he can make more money by joining them instead?
I'm surprised Bernie hasn't told them this yet in private, considering Bernie has also told them to go challenge the FIA in EU courts.
he did?
from my understanding, yes. trying to remember where i saw it...
news to me, but you could be right. why would he want this dragged through the courts in public?
because he wants to keep all the current teams - and the only way he can do that is by getting rid of max. and the only way to get rid of max is if someone pushes him out. if france can't do it, maybe the eu can. something along the lines of steven's path of thinking...
Oh good. I am right again. :D
Oh good. I am right that he thought that way. :D
what is this, tag team commenting?
If the teams breakaway and he can do a deal he avoids getting rid of max altogether
.oO can I be the Bushwhackers then? ;)
a successful breakaway in itself would be getting rid of max without pushing him out of the FIA. But as Mr Benson has stated, this is a difficult proposition for the teams, since they can't even agree on doing it yet.
:D
no no no no no. I don't want a breakaway
don't take away my breakaway?
Oh now you're just confusing me
It wont be a breakaway, just a complete reboot, bernie owns the commercial rights to f1 so he would bring the f1 title with him, the championship would probably look the same as it does now, with the teams probably getting more cash
unless they play it to make cvc default and go bust, then buy the rights themselves from administrators
Amy, I have a question and I hope you have an answer
How do you break away without breaking away?
Mr C, did my skype message work?
ooooh. umm forgot to check, sorry.
christine has the login, we'll certainly do it tomorrow. huge apologies sir.
Bernie will buy the rights back from CVC at a reduced price. All the stuff that is happening now rather conveniently makes their investment look very shaky. Bernie will probably be talking to them now and telling them how bad he feels that he got them into this and how he can't give them what they gave him for it but he will give them a fair price in the current market. The current market being a global recession and the sport in uproar.
Never mind. I will have to do another one anyway, after my stupid prediction of Webber winning the GP
Amy,
A few years ago on youtube, there was a Kimi video centered on his Mclaren days. It was a hard rock/Alt. song. There was a part of the song that sang: "You f***ed, you threw it all away". I'm running a 5k on Monday and would like to add it to my shuffle. Any ideas?
start a new series, then settle bernies lawsuits by giving FOM the commercial rights and letting them organise it
I'll keep that in mind in case Webber really wins it. ;)
please do keep 'em coming. maybe you could do one every day and we'll make a montage as you rethink your predictions?
got a link?
You cut out the FIA. You keep the commercial contracts, the circuit contracts, the TV contracts etc. Same teams, same races. Bernie once he buys the rights back can then take a smaller percentage from the new series to get it going knowing that the economy is picking up and once it is establshed all the teams are committed as they own a share and in 3 or 4 years he can sell his assets at a massive profit again.
He would risk being up for antitrust. The best solution for him would for the teams to buy the rights and let him manage it for a large amount of money for 5 years
She said earlier on that she knew the song but had no idea where to find it.
Did you try Google? It could be: "Standing all Alone" by "Not by choice"
No I dont. I have not been able to find the video for a couple of years and it's making me crazy
No way. The FIA are being cut out of the deal not Bernie.
LOL. That might get boring as I keep predicting a McLaren winner.
stand by, I'll check i-tunes
Or just pick the one that is right and make him look psychic. :)
Do one for each driver and look smug on Monday ;)
Bernie wouldnt be cut out he would still run FOM
I did pick Sutil to score a point - Can't wait for that to be right.
Bernie won't let anyone else get their hands on the assets. The teams will effectively own the championship with him taking 20% instead of 50%
Me neither. He's in my FR team. On average, he still socres more points than his cash price would!
:D
I picked him too - I got Webber, so I could only afford a Force India. If Sutil and Webber both do well, I'll be ecstatic. :D
Anyhow, big day for the sport tomorrow, but fortune favours the bed. Night all
see ya nick.
See ya Nick. You have given me too much to think about
a quick google of the lyrics revealed to me the song mentioned earlier. It could be the one, that whole genre all sounds the same to me ;)
So you do not know the video?
Journeyer, did you have bring up Indy. My first F1 race was the USGP 2005
I was asking Doug in SF if he'd been to any of the USGPs in Indy or Long Beach. :)
How did we ever work without Google?
we used altavista ;)
Oh yeah.
altavista! that's so 90s. :P
I was thinking Gopher and Compuserve, and how hard it all was....
a post and preview re: 24hrs of nürburgring:
http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/2009/05/2009-nurburgring-24hr-race.html
and with that, i'll sleep.
Good night, Mr C.
Good morning, Europe! :D
morning
i am on a train. It smells like a toilet. I am so glad i dont live in the suburbs.
i cant say for sure, i have watched an awful lot of kimi videos over the years.
I am on a roofdeck. The tarp roof looks like it will give way at any moment. The heat is scorching.
I am in the office :-)
Morning folks, just thought I'd catch you guys before work. Dad was off at 5 this morning to go to Bedford Autodrome for his 2nd assessment for Palmer Sport, so fingers crossed it goes well :P
You can't be with Michael Schumacher everyday. :P
Good luck to your dad! ;)
He has to meet Jonathan Palmer himself as well. Is that a good thing or a bad thing. I find whenever he speaks it sounds like he's putting on a voice, like he's commentating or doing a piece to camera. He doesn't have a normal way of speaking, I find.
received another mail from a some "future US F1 track" . I am nt sure how serious these people are but anyway - look at the track diagram:
http://www.usgpjb.com/THE CIRCUIT.html
isn't that a bit mad ? :-)
track diagram
If Dr. Palmer asks to meet with him, chances are the job is his.
Did you hear that we are wrong to credit Brawn with the turnarounds in the team? No, no, it's all thanks to Jacques .
"What do you think of this year with your old team and your old team mate doing all the winning?
‘It’s good to see that the team I built up is now winning, because at the time I was highly criticised for building up the team and racing for it. And nobody thought it would ever succeed.’"
Erm, if anything, Honda deserve more credit than JV. I know he founded Brackley, but that iteration was awful.
I think I dislike everything about JV. Then I remember his album, I don't dislike how much it made me laugh ;)
I do wish I saw Gilles in his time, though...
"Q: Good to see you hear in Monaco, your first Grand Prix appearance of the year. How does it feel to be back in this paddock?"
so it is good to see him or good to hear him ? :-)
Hehe. :P
well its not the first
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/please-get-out-of-monaco-jpg
and it's definitely not the second.
me thinks they're lying to him.
I was at that fence two years ago :-) took a speedboat from hotel to the track and the speedboat dropped us off right in between all those motorhomes. funny thing was that we were not supposed to be there. and all the ways out of there lead through areas to which we had no access ... funny :-)
was it a disgusting tacky speedboat like the one thefifthdriver just twitpic'ed? Proof money can't buy taste.
not sure what was tweetet but that was just a normal speedboat for I think 4 people :-)
the talk of Jacques reminded me that his F1 career ended right in front of my eyes :-)
Campos Racing confirmed on Friday that at 00:05 it had lodged its entry for the championship under the budget cap rules.
this is what was tweeted http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/9541009-jpg
one of the greatest days of my life ;)
that is soooo sad :-)
someone replied to them with "It's about as tasteful as those diamond studded helmets" :D
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/end-of-jacques-jpg
fantastic! You've been to some great tracks. I wish I had a tiny smidgeon of the photography talent you do :)
Hello to one and all.
still some left that need to be visited :-)
You were at Hockenheim 2006?
I thought they just denied it last Tues? Or is this the original Campos who sold what's now Barwa Addax?
Hey Christine.
yes, and it was very very hot that weekend
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75501
Wow! You've been everywhere, haven't you? ;)
not everywhere, but that is the long term plan :-)
He sold his GP2 team to chase F1? That's a HUGE gamble.
what a quote from Mr. Saward :-)
"Monaco has seemed quiet this year. The gazillionaires are still in town with their gaudy gin palaces and trashy girlfriends, but the number of others in town is way, way down. A girl with a credit card can get a bed in Monte Carlo this year without having to take her clothes off…"
Cannot really 'switch' to 2010 untill we have a rule book for 2010 (or at least, a rulebook which has a passing chance of still being in use in 2010)
It's worrying and funny at the same time... ;)
Have posted the Fantasy Racers post, if anyone would like to share their strategies and thoughts.
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/05/22/fantasy-racers-reminder-monaco/
my strategy is to stick with my original line up and check how is it doing around Abu Dhabi time :-)
I have question for UK people. I am not sure the place I will be staying at during British GP (a bed and breakfast place) will have internet connection. Is there any way how can someone visiting UK for few days get some sort of internet access (mobile internet etc) ?
Is it too late to join fantasy racers?
Good morning!
It is never too late Benji! All the information you need is here: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/03/fantasy-racing-2009/
And good evening to Amy.
Thanks Christine.
G'morning all.
Hi Lukeh, how goes it?
Not too bad thanks, how is the land of sidepodcast on this strangely empty froday before a GP?
It is weird. Friday, that is, not Sidepodcast. Although...
hehe :D
are the multiple pics of whitmarsh eating an apple, in drop.io, part of the hardest spot-the-difference competition in the world. or have they been uploaded multiple times?
Maybe someone just really enjoyed that picture?
That is very bizarre!
that would be probably my fault. tried to upload 2-3 times but always got error message, no idea why
no worries. i thought it was a test... but they're all the same :)
well, all I wanted to say is that there McLaren does not have ice cream culture like Ferrari :-)
:)
looking at the pics, wouldn't it be really weird to eat with eat plugs in? wouldn't you hear every crunch inside your head?
*ear plugs.
have to try that
It's weird eating an apple anyway.
I bet he doesnt even realise Lewis is even there, he's too busy listening to the pussycat dolls in an ironic turn of events
because it doesn't contain chocolate?
No, even toffee apples are weird.
oh.
have you tried chopping them into small chunks and skewering them with cocktail sticks?
No but that sounds amazing!
Update from Flav's boat - everyone Flav doesn't like has been told to walk the plank. Everyone took the opportunity to get away.
OK, now I know. jpg is OK to upload here, jpeg is not, at least an error message comes up with jpeg
Hey, everyone. :)
Hullo!
Any word from the morning meeting on Flav's yacht?
Nope. Although I still think he's made people walk the plank.
Arg, matey! Arrrg! :P
hmm, jpeg should be fine too. will look into it.
Has anyone seen this on the BBC Mole's blog? A guest entry from Lee...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/2009/05/the-mole-gives-you-lee-mckenzi.html
It's more about what she's been doing but it's still pretty good :)
wtf?
the bbc are stupid, stupid, stupid people. why doesn't she just have a blog of her own? and ted too?
Or one big blog that everyone writes in.
I just watched an interview with jenson from ted, so thankfully he is actually there because so far, I haven't heard from him once since before the spanish gp!
dont see why they dont get their own blogs though.
Because she DOES: www.leemckenzie.tv
Ted really doesn't, I think...
why doesn't she have a bbc blog?
to be fair, brundle has an article in a newspaper, legard does too elsewhere I believe etc but they all still have bbc f1 blogs, just seems a bit wierd the two people getting the nitty gritty, or so we'd expect, in the paddock, with the drivers and with the more technical stuff seem to be ignored at times.
Good question. No idea why. ;)
Ted used to have a really good ITV blog, maybe having ITV DNA counts against him at the bbc ;)
Now this is weird. From JA:
Huh, surely someone from brawn mustve gone?
And this is why I should stick with Webber (as I'm sticking with Vettel anyway):
Either they've decided to skip it (which would be a VERY bad sign for FOTA), or JA just missed it (which is probably and hopefully the case).
maybe they were already there?... or are late? ross brawn wouldnt not send someone to a fota meeting, would he?
I'm gonan go with he missed it, i can't see why Brawn would'nt go
And a nice blog entry from JA to set the scene too.
Although not probable, it's possible that Brawn have agreed on a separate deal with Max and Bernie...
With a veto and an extra $80mil? ;)
Sure, why not? If Ferrari are leaving, someone needs to take over the veto power. ;)
and this point is a good one:
"If Ferrari leaves F1, along with other major manufacturers, then I can guarantee you that RAI, along with all the main TV companies, would take legal action to review our contract."
I have come to the decision that my Brawn isn't doing as well as Brawn are in real life... :P
Love BritsOnPole's tweet - back to the 80s!
you found a shortcut?
yep, the 'lets spin around on the first corner' one :D
Influenced by Monaco I am
Which is why Bernie won't let Ferrari go if there's no breakaway that will follow it.
How much does Max care for Bernie right now? That's a question that needs to be asked...
Oops. Made a boo-boo there. Actual post is below.
Not sure if RealBrawnGP just got this from JA, or if he has his own source:
Heads up!
ESPN Classic *Sky channel 442* is now showing the 1965 Monaco GP and follows that with the 1969 Monaco GP.
Morning everyone, If JA is to be believed they will all be diving off the boat right about now
8O
Completely off the F1 for the moment.
Ghostbusters 3 is go! With all the original cast! :D
Cool, although i haven't watched them for years
The next Harry potter?
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/harry-potter-jpg
You're a driver, Harry...
Cool! Let's go make an album!
Awesome!!
:D
Talking about Jacques and the open feeling he seems to have with F1, can anyone see him coming back into the sport with one of the new teams?
hell, USGP will want a bit of experience surely going into the sport, I'm wondering if he's been eyeing them down, perhaps talking with Windsor about a possible role. Surely no coincedence he's popped back up in Monaco as he talks about a possible return...
Who needs jacques for experience when you have scott speed?
I think hes a given for one of the seats and Andrettii is probably a shoe in for the other
Depends on how well he does in NASCAR really.
He seems to be doing alright.
Yeah, i think he still has unfinished business in f1
Has anyone played Racedriver: GRID? is it any good?
It's fantastic, it's a mix of arcade and simulation though more towards the arcade side of things gameplay wise but still very very good. What platform you thinking of buying it on? A few of us here have it on the 360 and PC.
On whether Brawn went to the meeting or not....
Have a look at the photo on the gazzetta's mainpage.
http://www.gazzetta.it/
Possibly the back of Fry's head by the pillar? I don't know, anybody want to name everyone at the table?!
Makes sense to me and they are both are American racing icons of a sort.
I don't know it anyone mentioned it but the world is back on its axis and Christine can relax. NASA have decided that the space shuttle cannot land any time today.
Nect landing opportunity is at 9:16am EDT2:16pm UK tomorrow at Edwards Air Force Base in California. Typical afte all that planning NASA want to land during qualifying so that I miss both.
Ahhh norrmality.
cool, i might go get it, im a ps3 user though..
Phew.
Sorry that you'll miss it, though.
There is still time for further problems
It wont be any different, obviously just a different controller :) definitrly worth a look!
The lack of news is frustrating, didnt anyone think to set up a webcam and mic on the yacht?
Bernie probably has it bugged but that doesn't really help. All we need is someen with a little radio controlled helicopter
if we were there, you know we would've ;)
could well be.
interesting that mercedes are present, along with mclaren. and toyota have x2 people.
Is this ominous for Sunday?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75511
I like the Scott Speed thing, but am hoping against Andretti.
I dont know when you guys are talking to joe saward, but is it too late for a question, i just had an epiphany in the shower for a question
why couldn't they just give them drive throughs at the time?
hold that thought. we have no means of finding any questions again atm. will shout y'all later.
that's a good question. was it a short race or something?
OK, ill put it here so i don't forget it myself
Should Ferrari have an asterisk next to the number of world championships they have won, as they clearly haven't been on an equal footing to the other teams for the past 4 years?
Kind of like all the records in MLB with the steriods?
It's the FIA. They have to find the stupidest answer to any situation.
Yeah, not saying they cheated, but all might have been not quite fairly achived
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I think there should be a zero after the 4 and possible the 4 should be a 6
Who are the two Toyota people? I see Tadashi but not John.
probably about 30 minutesish, depends whether it was the sprint or feature race
You may need to explain the asterisk to the non-Americans or at least those who don't follow American sports where this thing happens
:D
I think its used for players who are suspected of having used performance enhancing drugs at some point in their careers, although this cant be definitively proved, or certain which points of a career were under the influence of drugs.
Its put next to their career stats to reflect the fact that the record may not be valid in comparison to others
what about all the other comments for other joe, who left comments last night about the kimi song? and plugs for joe's blog etc?
we just don't have time :(
Here is just the thing for you Roy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT9dM5AF2Hc
Been thinking about get an RC Helicopter (boys and their toys as I have got too old and too injured I sold my Aprilia race bike)
Damn. Didn't think of that.
Gawd, we'll start twitter hashtagging on here soon.
Is their a wiki page for them, im not certain how to set one up, and im about to go out for an hour, but i could put them on one if it existed later
ha!
Doing a wiki page now. Ready in a couple of minutes
can't hurt to try it.
i personally like the simplest route, and that is to ask in the comments about half hour before the conversation. on the other hand the wiki might be the perfect solution, give it a shot and we'll see.
fanx you.
Wiki page created. it is a bit basic but it will do for now.
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Questions+for+Joe
Famous people like me shouldn't need to do stuff like this.
You will be hearing from my agent
Good, afternoon, all.
Anything happend today?
That looks incredible. Looks like an awful lot of work though for something that can only fly for a minute.
don't look at me, i'm just the numbers man.
Yo RG.
Nothing whatsoever. :(
I think it is the numbers he wants to discuss
Sorry, I was at school
sat behind him, isn't he?
The shuttle didn't land. Nothing happened in F1 and most of the GP2 race didn'y bother with the first corner at Monaco.
Nothing.
:D
Was that not Patrick Head?
has emc sponsorship on his sleeve. that's toyota isn't it?
yup
According to James Allen USF1 and Campos have put in entries for next season
is there any penalty for entering and then pulling out later? if not, them i'm hardly surprised.
From the commander of the next space shuttle mission during training
Performing our 2nd rendezvous to ISS. Our radar has failed, as well as our primary laser ranging system, but we're working through it.
Maybe you shouldn't be tweeting then. Sort the problem out first. I think the next mission could go a bit piquet
Not sure any more. They don't have to place the $48 million bond any more but there must be an entry fee.
Quite correct gentlemen - so that is John. So who is the guy next to Martin?
Actually, the F1 Mole blog article with LeeMcK in it is just a repost of her diary from her website...
First significant pic from the meeting - is this on Flav's yacht?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/welshracer/Captions/costcutting.jpg
Oh dear.
agreed. but when does that need to be paid?
bbc splog?
Wel thats disappointing.
yeah, we've just been discussing it ;)
I guess only Alianora would know that
And someone already showed the pic! Hehe.
I see (counterclockwise from Bernie) Flav, Howett, Yamashina, Dr. Mario?, who's the guy in the suit?, Martin, Christian, Stefano, and Norbert.
Oh, and afternoon all. Excursion across the border was succesful - bought a camera and a radio, 48 cans beer, 48 cans coke, 24 cans orange, spring water and Red Bull, loads of sausages and 12 bottles of wine. We passed 4x4's with cans filling up to the roof, so we felt like we could have done better ;)
nick fry may be wearing the suit.
i notice in the background there's a professional video camera tripod. wonder if there's a camera sat atop it, and if so why are they filming?
Booo
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/22/revealed-astro-mike-was-not-updating-twitter-from-space-nor-was-he-doing-it-in-real-time-heck-it-wasnt-even-him/
yep, looks like it from the autosport pic. he seems to have gained an awful lot of weight...
BTW, where's Williams and Force India? No surprise Toro Rosso is missing.
Wait, thats him?
at the back?! he looks... strange.
nah, that's not him is it?
the guy in the suit isn't nick fry.
hmmm... does that mean brawn, williams, and force india did indeed skip the meeting?
that doesn't sound too united, does it?
it can't be, surely.
arrived with stefano: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/who-s-the-olther-guy-jpg
still none the wiser.
perhaps it's adam parr of williams? but... nah, i doubt it too...
not unless he has had a face lift over night.
pic 1
pic 2
thought i saw adam parr, in the first pic posted?
I love ferrari's suits when stefano looks them, they remind me of 70s flares
when he wears them, even.
not him either, although i thought he was there too.
pic 1 link should be
http://www.autosport.com/images/upload/1243004402.jpg
It could be a buffet, and there is a space between Bernie and that chap. So he might be getting food?
That really is unlikely
confirmed. williams and force india were present:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/more-from-the-boat-jpg
perhaps the guy in the suit is a rep for brawn, then?
Is BMW defo there?
yeah, Ned Flanders is in the background of the pic mr c just posted
Yup - I think I saw Dr. Mario.
also here: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/bailing-out-jpg
yeah we can definitely see him there :D
Right, by my count there is 8 teams there ex. Toro Rosso? Unless there was a buffet.
So, 1 hour into the meeting. Goodness, I'm hoping they get this over and done with today.
STR's Franz Tost is leftmost.
franz tost visible in this pic too:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/more-from-the-boat-jpg
assuming the mysterious guy is a brawn rep. all teams accounted for.
I guess you could say that they're "showboating" in front of millions of exasperated F1 fans & ventilators across the globe.
:D
1hr into what, the meeting with max?
Paul Ricard considering a bid for the French GP? Owned by a Mr BC Ecclestone
http://tinyurl.com/ofcg3z
But I can guarantee you that my Dog is not on that boat. Are they busy drinking wine or wot? It doesn't look like a serious meeting to me.
yup. they started at 4:30 local time.
I think Max would say that they were walking the plank
the only question is - why did he only do this now? could've rid us of magny cours a long time ago... still, i suppose he still needs to set up stands and all.
no grandstands? the perfect gp for bernie then.
Wonder what they are eating, looks like stuffing
apparently, according to the article, grandstands were setup last year...
Testing ban
Franz Tost is also in this picture next to Bernnie - just do not know the guy in the pink shirt and the guy in the suit (either side of Martin).
http://images.gazzettaobjects.it/Hermes Foto/2009/05/22/0KK1RHBP--620x300.jpg
hmmm... who IS the guy in the pink shirt?
I was thinking how ridiculous he looked or was it Italian fashion and flare?
i'm trying to find out who he is, he isn't mentioned or anything on brawn's website and why Brawn or Nick Fry wouldn't be there themselves is beyond me. especially as Brawn said his plans for today and early next week depend on whether this all gets sorted... well i think that's what he said yesterday anyway...
All I know is that the yacht is called Force Blue or something like that. Maybe Flav could rename it "F1 Blues" after today?
I can't seem to find the Stig amongst all the beautiful people on board. I'm hearing he'll be entering F1 as well with Stig Super-Dupertec F1 Team in 2010.
So Brawn needed someone to go for them, perhaps?
Well they could've asked me, or lou, or dom! Or other brawn fans!
Although to be fair, if I went to a team principals meeting I'd spend the entire time looking at Dr Mario with a smile, replying 'Okily dokily do!' whenever he spoke to me so maybe not such a good idea...
It is Force Blue and during normal times you can charter it for not an inconsiderable sum think I prefer F1 Blues to describeRenault F1 at the moment.
Why not me - I have always supported then - even when they were Honda F1
You could've gone too then! :D
one for christine's celeb spotting page. apparently chris evans (not our chris though), has arrived.
A gift for Christine... a baby anteater from the Toyko zoo.
video LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-soIpE8HQs
Actually my dog is the really big fan of Jenson - there is a photo on his (Jenson's) website of her ! I am serious - it is under the fans picture.
She also loves boats so we could have nominated her and she is never lost for words!
Their time will come, don't worry, it's common to spit on Renault these days, nothing more than a trend among F1 fans. The moment Alonso produces a good race people will be saying something like: wow, I predicted Renault would come back and they did.
F1 Blues sums up BMW's season correctly. It's back to good old Sauber days. Maybe a repeat of 2000 or maybe classic 2005 with crazy JV driving.
So which meeting are we in now? Sorry been doing work all day ;) Has anything happened today?
f1 blues should be the name of his football team.
No, god no. Please, please not that, no.
Can we just call them Sauber and paint the car blue and it'll be happy RG who couldn't care anymore.
i've asked brawngp on twitter if there was anyone at the fota meeting for brawn. i don't expect a reply though, it's getting annoying that they don't seem to reply to tweets, force india manage it. humph.
ask force india then?
Alonso is awesome. Possibly the best driver on the grid. I even have to defend him to my Spanish colleagues sometimes!
Ask LeeMcK
I knopw but they could not afford Flab's boat. I agree Alonso will come back - he is so motivated (yea and the best driver on the track)
ask her if she's been hanging out with famous people too. gotta get on her wavelength ;)
honestly didn't think of that... it's been one of those busy hectic, brain not in gear days.
Not a bad idea...
I think classic Sauber colour scheme was much better. I caught JV testing 2005 Sauber car on one occasion in Jerez and it had much better track presence that this whiter-than-white laundry thing or washing machine current paintjob.
@Jamesallenonf1 @LeeMcK @joesaward Have you heard anything from the FOTA meeting on Flavio's boat yet? Please tweet us if you have!
I agree. Bring back Sauber, keep the current guys in charge though. Even though its still Sauber, but less BMW backing. I'm confusing myself now.
Just paint the damn car blue.
It is lucky for BMW Sauber they have Nick - but neither expect much at Monaco - waiting till Turkey - I think they should be thinking about next year - oops I forgot they started this years car earlier than almost anyone else except Honda/Brawn and gave up on the championship.
I like that colour too!
Can i just check - FOTA had their meeting, and now representatives are off to meet Bernie?
Yes.
To be honest this meeting reminds me of Pink Floyd Live at Pompeii (director's cut) moment when Waters, Gilmour & Wright discuss oysters: The oysters are very good! Seems to be the right time of year! Yeah, the oysters are very good! Are they French oysters? Dunno, I'd like to think that oysters transcend national barriers.
Thanks. I think I'm going to be offline and just kicking back on the balcony - might put the radio on. I'm sure the italians will interrupt whatever is on for F1 news!
They also had a dog with them - to be precise a Borzoi called Mademoiselle Nobs. My dog has agree to represent the team but she is not a Borzoi or even Afghan - just and African dog with some terrier and very long legs!
Am loving the name of the dogs :D
Mine is simply called RED - came with it from the animal pound!
You're a legend :)
heading offline. see you all tomorrow for qualy
"It is my lucky day. Well, it is if you believe the Chinese. According to their logic a person who is the victim of a bird ***t strike will get a lot of luck. I must say that I didn’t feel that lucky when the Monagasque seagull dumped his lunch on me from a very great height this afternoon. Hell, how can one be glamorous in Monte Carlo when you are spattered with guano?"
From Joe's Blog
Clubforce just posted an tweet so many they may get lou's message now asking about Brawn... fimgers crossed.
You bet, it's his best article in years. I take my hat off.
Makes a change from F1 being all bullsh*t.
Tweet from Will Buxton:
Still waiting for FOTA news. So while they're all farting about on a boat, I'm going to grab a beer at Red Bull. Salut.
Looks like i havent missed munch, aside from some photos and a strange man in a suit who may or may not be kgb, will upload the other Q's to the joe wiki page
"The sport's team bosses were spotted travelling in dinghies from the Monaco harbour to Flavio Briatore's moored triple-storey super-yacht Force Blue, before they sat down for a pre-meeting lunch."
Looks like folks from F1-Dead know a thing or two 'bout the meeting. Super-yacht? Come on! No wonder young F1 fans are so spoilt these days.
Here is a link to Pink Floyd and Mademoiselle nobs live at Pompei - I had a Borzoi once - the cleverest dog I have ever owned but are something of an acquired test as they can be aloof most of the time and really silly the rest of the time! I could see her participating like this too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB8famm0rLM
Nucular?
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090522181814.shtml
Not sure where the BBC said this, but apparently, if nothing can be agreed by today's end, ALL the teams will withdraw.
Game on.
Huh, surely someone from brawn mustve gone? {Comment #262}
I think the teams who basically agree with the budget cap (Force India, Williams, Brawn) aren't bothering with this meeting because it is meant to placate those team bosses who don't like the idea. It's not like any of the three are going to boycott F1 if the budget cap is removed or modified...
Woah woah woah.
And the Twitterers are panicking. Read the article first, guys. Sheesh.
8O
ALL teams?!
To be frank.. Bloody hell!
I'm surprised they all agreed to it, to be honest.
Oh, but wait, Bernie was at that lunch, right? ;)
Time to go gently, Max...
Since that was stated, we've determined that they all went to the meeting. You might want to jump to the latest entries - something's up.
And FYI - this is NOT GMM.
Is it time to run around in circles panicking?
She really is a super yacht - originally called Big Roi see article below and is easily one of 100 largest yachts around.
http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/article.jsp?ID=21014701
As long as they stay united, I wouldn't panic too much. Remember, this position was agreed upon in the presence of Mr. E himself, so this is part of the plan.
The BBC didn't say that at all... This is the latest from their feed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8064314.stm
Running is tiring anyway.
We haven't got a group of teams wanting one thing, and another group of teams wanting another thing, so as far as I'm concerned all 10 staying together is the best thing they can do at the moment, as daramatic as it sounds.
It might be on BBC News or something... *looks*
Right - any idea what CAPSIS' track record is when it comes to these things? It was run by F1-Live, which is owned by ESPN.
Agreed.
The BBC have been reporting on the radio that DiM said all the teams were united in walking if the cap remained
So this is NOT a drill? Right, then. Looks like no sleep for me until the end of this one.
Nothing on BBC News about it.
Well then surely it would have been repeated in that article?
They run a lot of GMM stuff
Ech. Why did ESPN buy them if they'll just resort to GMM?
How about CAPSIS?
Unless the Internet is behind the radio. But that would be odd. Still, if the BBC reported it, it must be legit.
It was definatly on 5 live news on both the 4pm and 5pm sports reports, i dont know if you can get them on iplayer
Hello folks, glad that day of work's over. Phew!
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090522181814.shtml
This morning I sent to Christine an email of the proposed letter that FOTA should be sending to Max - it went a bit further and not only said all teams would withdraw, but that Max needs to resign his position by 29 May for them to reconsider (with of course dropping the budget caps)
No idea, a google search suggests nothing. Other than Greek hotels, putting f1 next to it is no use at all.
It should be available on the red button.
Hmm, the situation is very unclear at best.
Just in time, Bassano. ;)
I think Bernnie is a worried man - am surprised he was at the meeting though!
well, I finshed nearly 3 hours ago but had stuff to do!
Nothing on the sports headlines on the red button.
BTW, Steven Roy's analysis of the situation has been right on the money thus far. :D
The lunch was held before the meeting, i dont think they invited Bernie to the actual discussions, just the pre meeting lunch for him to put his view across
I believe ya ... just seems weird considering they must share their stuff... perhaps the website is just being cautious?
BTW, for those thinking Max will resign, I doubt it. I don't think the teams will even ask for an immediate resignation. They'll give him a graceful exit - perhaps a simple announcement of retirement by reiterating that he won't run this election.
Sport news now on BBC News 24
news 24 sport on now
Who cares about the football. Get to the good stuff.
More possible trouble for F1 going around
If Ferrari withdraw from F1 - The Monaco Grand Prix promoter is unlikely to apply to extend their contract beyond 2010. :D
Blah blah Chelsea, rangers, get on with it
Isn't it amazing what LDM can do? Just his mere presence has been giving FOTA a huge edge. Look what happened when he missed last week's meeting...
Huh?
then he will be replaced
Yep, BBC News 24 is confirming that Luca has said it/.
Good publicity no? Big discussions taking place at their track.
"Nucular" scenario for Bernie.
Oh. My. Goodness.
And a clip of him saying FOTAwon't enter the championship is now being played
He's retired before...and then changed his mind.
He's a politician. And as we all know, politicians are like nappies. They should both be changed frequently, and for the same reason.
Journeyer, have I ever said how much I admire your ability to assess things?
heard it from the black horses mouth. also nice team fota photo
It's real. It's damn real.
It's 1982 all over again!
Coming from you, Steven, that's a HUGE compliment. :D
Only 10 times worse - because they're all on the same page this time.
I think what we're witnessing today is classic bands-fall-apart situation. It's like Lennon (FOTA) blaming McCartney (Mad Max or the FIA) for writing the wrong kind of songs. Only now we have internet & can follow it live with images & video. Maybe GP1 will be Lennon's new project and McCartney will soon put out a new version of F1 called "Formula 1 - Maybe I'm Amazed". Sort of.
You can't replace Michel Boeri
I think im alone, but im going to say it anyway.
I love f1 politics...
Oooh got a tweet from lisamccormick:
Haven't spoken to Rob but have spoken to Lucy (his wife) who tells me he's very optimistic abt this weekend! Looking at practice times, I can see why! Got my fingers crossed!
But all the teams are on th same side this time. Big difference.
No, this time we actually want the goss!
It has its appeal, for sure. The way these guys work is a marvel to watch. It can get sickening at times, though...
I don't. If I wanted to watch politics I'd tune into westminster - F1 is all about racing!
Your mad.
In all honesty FOTA had to get tough, Max has lost his marbles. It got to an intolerable situation which could only get worse.
This is more like Lennon, McCartney, Harrison, Starkey and George Martin ditching Brian Epstein
You are not alone
*raises hand* me too!
This has all just got a hell of a lot more entertaining. :D
[You're] ;)
I'm not a big fan of real politics, and somehow it lacks the personality and drama of the f1 world. F1 politics also have no rules :)
I don't get how. I'm just sick and tired of it all.
True. But still, we have a coup d'etat on our hands here!
It's the holidays, who cares about grammar
You don't get real politics in Westminster. They are all to busy fiddling their expenses to be involved in politics and they are all faceless.
F1 is a reality Soap Opera at the moment!
That's how wars start young man! :)
Agreed. Friday looked like being dull.
As I said, it can get sickening at times. But for the most part, these guys do know what's off-limits. That said, this skirmish (not calling it a full-blown war yet) has significantly redefined the political game.
Aussie Parliament is great, they're always getting chucked out for fowl language and abuse!
So your saying Max left a few 0's in the wrong place when announcing the budget cap?
You are supposed to visit her in the holidays
Nope - most exciting Friday we'll probably have all season. ;)
You think your politicians are on the fiddle - you should see ours!
No, that's not grammar. Like Bernie, it's just senility & dementia
Guys, what if all this is just one giant PR stunt?
How many of them have claimed for a duck island - whatever that is or to have their moat cleaned?
As long as they fix it, I really don't care
haha
Nah - no way the PR staff can think of something this complex!
At least joe has plenty to talk about now
I here the moat cleaning business is going down the drain these days
It'll be a bumper edition of Aside tomorrow. :D
*hear*
WWE has scripted storylines and politics. F1 produces its own. Its a battle of eccentric personalities and massive corporations. Pass the popcorn.
Now who's got the poor grammar/spelling?
Granted the items they define as tax deductible are different. Zuma essentially interfered with the judicial process to avoid fraud and a prison sentence- I would gladly swap him for Gordon Brown!
It is now not tax deductible!
Touche
I did at least have the decency to correct my foolish oversight ;)
Well, that's my business plan blown out of the water
Let's make it official, shall we?
BBC: F1 teams ALL threaten to withdraw
Don't forget Inside f1 at 6:30
News 24?
yeah, although its usually listed at 6:45 and i get the last 60 secconds
I had thoughts about be the strategic analyst for FOTA but they came to the same strategy I worked out.
I am pleased it will give Max something to think about and hopefully a lot more hair loss (he has already gone white)
from fakeFIApress
We are not at all concerned about the teams all leaving as there aren't any #fakef1 teams anyway!
Is this the small boat Flav uses to get to his big boat?
http://twitpic.com/5ohw1
Time to start some?
bagsy fakeSauber
Be quick
Does seem like a challenge
Doesn't it just
Wait, are you guys saying that Ferrari have actually gone and done it?!
*faints*
Not just Ferrari..
It's just like British Layland in the 70's.
One out - all out
Not just Ferrari - ALL the teams have threatened to pull out if the cap is not dropped. And if they walk, Monaco have said they will walk too.
Can you say "breakaway"?
Bingo.
With less rust
JESUS CHRIST!!!!
it'll all get sorted out. don't worry.
Yep. That about sums it up. ;)
True. :D
FOTA were very strategic in when to pick the fight with Max!
:D
It will, i'm extremely calm about this. Like I said earlier, this is a good thing if anything personally.
Getting Monaco on their side was a HUGE bonus.
So far, for 2010 we have Campos Racing and... no one else
agreed. it seems shocking at first, but it's FOTA's (and the fans') best shot at winning the battle against max.
Is it wrong that I have a vision of Bernie walking into Max's office and placing a pistol on his desk and telling him it is time to do the honourable thing.
Knowing Max he would probably shoot Bernie
USF1.
:D
He hasn't declared a position yet.
It will be a really good thing if they can also get Max removed from office - he is actually the person that caused this with authoritarian approach.
Have they actually submitted their entry yet?
The window opened today
the only thing leaving formula 1 will be Max, Bernie was at the meeting after all. bye bye max.
I think it is fabulous
I believe he'd rather not choose sides. :D
Too True!
hehehe :D
USF1
#maxout
yes, they have. PW confirmed it in the NYT.
I hear he's going with White
That would be understating it.
Today?
I'm not a fan of that Max dude. Send him out, I would, but Dad took away my powers again.
Campos and USF1 entered this morning
Yes.
OK - who's behind this? :P
I know who God is.
:D
Not the God of course, the God that comes on spc, knowing THE God would be immense.
OK, I'm officially starting the list, after I find the NYTimes report
As USF1 or USGPE?
It's like watching Little Nicky ;)
No need - AUTOSPORT already reported it. Finding that will do.
USGPE.
Mosley and Mugabe twins split at birth! Both will be really difficult to get out of office!
FOTA-Max meeting about to reach the 3-hour mark.
Oh Go on
No
Please
No
Go on, go on, go on
No
John Howett still there?
hahaha :D
Now's about the time they hog-tie him and throw him overboard isn't it?
:D
It's like rex Banner from The Simpsons!
Erm, Bassano, who's saying what? :P I'd think FOTA is the calmer party right now...
They all are.
Did he attend the meeting with Max as well? - That is one angry chappie when it comes to Max!
Probably Max by now :D
Have you ever seen Father Ted, Journeyer?
If not, you should rectify immediately
"You should have paid the expenses"
"In retrospect, yes!"
Arrrrg!
But seriously, as I said earlier, they won't ask for his head... yet. Like most dictators, he'll be offered a graceful exit. Stating his retirement along with reiterating that he won't run again should do nicely...
*opens photoshop*
This news calls for drastic action.
I would feel more confient with Bernie offering him the honourable option.
An intriguing option, for sure, but let's be realistic here. :D
You need to make it more of a public spectacle - blind-fold him make him walk the plank and ensure some hungry sharks are in attendance and make sure you get as much TV coverage as possible!
Actually this might back fire, the sharks might recognize him as one of them - well better make sure they are cannibalistic sharks.
I would feel more confident if he was kicked out of the door quite sharply
If max goes does Ron come back?
In Max's job? ;)
Nah - no point in taking back from Martin a job that was groomed to be his anyway.
Please do something creative!
Let's not get ahead of ourselves shall we
But that would be funny
he could be like Luca. Turn up, look serious and important...
Nothing on Autosport for USGPE and New York Times>Sport>Formula 1 link goes to Spanish Grand Prix results
No but I am sure he has nice drink in one hand to celebrate and a smile on his face.
Really? Odd. JA mentioned it on Twitter, so it should be around somewhere.
Where's Mr and Mrs C when they need to be here to see this?
SSN says Bernie's apparently in talks to bringing F1 back to Argentina.
San Luis, please! :D
Me too.
He mentions a lot of things, maybe he knows of their intention to sign
Not the same thing
At work I should imagine. Well, in the case of Mr C, sleeping? :P
Ok...so i've read alot of rubbish....
So...in factual statements. (Factual being the word)...whhats going on?
I'm sure they're quite happy not knowing it all, i wish i didnt ;)
Saw your tweet, John. Other than LDM's statement of FOTA withdrawing if this isn't settled, not much.
Campos Racing have officially submitted an entry to F1 in 2010
1st and only so far
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75501
Unless anyone has any hard news on USF1/USGPE
Talking to Joe?
I saw a tweet from James Allen saying two entries. Campos and USF1
Inside F1 is on the BBC News channel. I'll keep tuned in to see if any news comes up about this there.
Linky linky sil vous play ;)??
Forgot to say in 15 minutes.
That's what Journeyer said
As far as I know Twitter isn't doing official F1 press releases, neither is JA
Nah, not right now - Joe is on tenterhooks seeing this one out...
Inside F1 is literally just starting now actually!
I don't think so. We were discussing questions earlier and Mr C said he would ask in the comments half an hour before the show and he has not asked yet.
If anyone has questions for Joe they can be put on the wiki at http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Questions+for+Joe
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/global/index.html nyt f1 section has nothing on an official entry, and also has an article on usf1 that doesn't mention it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8064314.stm
Yup, it's being talked about it straight away.
What channel?
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/team-usf1-make-official-bid-for-2010-entry-list-6999.html
BBC news 24 channel 80 freeview
BBC News channel
or 503 on sky.
i watched that a few times and i learnt very little.
Fanks
ta
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Yay, got my first pay from Anovo today :D
EJ has strange glasses
Yay! :D
:D
that’s a good question. was it a short race or something? {Comment #307}
No, it was the GP2 feature race. There should have been time for a drive-through.
is there any penalty for entering and then pulling out later? if not, them i’m hardly surprised. {Comment #343}
Yes. The teams forfeit the €309,000 entry fee for the year.
Probably not a worry in itself to the established teams.
wow, inside f1 was rubbish
agreed. but when does that need to be paid? {Comment #350}
It has to be paid by November 1 2009, but the obligation to pay it exists from the moment of entry, so voluntary withdrawal doesn't get a team out of having to pay the fee.
Does that mean an entry fee costs less than a superlicence?
depends who you are ;)
BTW, where’s Williams and Force India? No surprise Toro Rosso is missing. {Comment #360}
I don't know where Williams was, but clubforce reckoned Force India was split between the garage (doing some work to the cars) and PR activities. I suppose those teams will be acting in accordance to the results of the meeting rather than feeling the need to listen to 100 minutes or so of hot air...
Alia, Vijay was there. Come on, run to the more recent comments. That's old hash by now! :P
arrived with stefano: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/who-s-the-olther-guy-jpg
still none the wiser. {Comment #366}
Not Mr Tozzi, by any chance? If it is, any hope of progress in the meeting was doomed from the start because he'd have needed most of the meeting for his opening remarks...
:D We suspect he many have been a rep for Brawn.
Alia, Vijay was there. Come on, run to the more recent comments. That’s old hash by now! {Comment #673}
Thanks for that. Keeping up with sidepodchat is pretty difficult...
We suspect he many have been a rep for Brawn. {Comment #675}
That would make sense. Has the Williams rep been accounted for?
he must have been surely, else how would all 10 teams have agreed to pull out if one team wasn't there?
Hahaha! Well, with everything that's going on, I can't blame ya. :P
Almost 3 and a half hours now since the meeting started...
Yep - we saw Adam Parr.
It was always going to be incredibly long, or astonishingly short. I guess FP1 gives a slight timelimit
Right - the girlies have finally decided what shoes to wear *only took 45 minutes... and 3 changes of clothes...* so now off to the comedy club.
TTFN
:D
With the girlies again, I see? Later. :P
The main concern here will be what to do with the new teams who want to enter (Campos, USF1, Lola). FOTA will have to provide some form of assistance to these teams (at least in Year 1) so that the lack of a cap won't make them decide not to join in 2010.
that should be FP3
Goodluck Flibster!
Yup. They invited me out as I'm all on my lonesome at the moment.
They said we'll be leaving at 6pm.
I didn't know they were using 6pm sidepodtime.
I got ready in 4 minutes.
They're now applying makeup.
They listen to SPC too? :D
I'm not really surprised. :P
I think USF1 should be ok, they were even considering going outside the budget.
It will be interesting to see if Lola and Campos are serious about joining without the cap
and iSport too, if they indeed are interested... if this is the main sticking point now, I think we'll be all right. and we'll get a 26-car grid next year. :D
There were intending entering before the budget caps were discussed so it does not affect them.
They might have to re-consider - but it was Max making promises without consultation of the participating teams. I do not see why the current teams should help them out in any way. Possibly Max should help them to finance a competitive car.
Three reasons:
1. Everyone (yes, even FOTA) want to see a full 26-car grid. And as the Brawn-Mercedes example has so clearly shown, having a 2nd team can be helpful so long as it's done properly.
2. Public image - I'm sure FOTA don't want to be seen as the reason why new teams couldn't join F1 because they didn't want the cap. So helping them start up should be a good way to counter that.
3. Concession to Max - yes, this isn't ideal, but if it'll make Max relent and agree to their demands, why not?
I dont think they do. clearly only paying the top ten makes 13 teams unsustainable, so unless the teams get a bigger share out of bernies money they wont want to risk diluting their tv incomes
i think the top-10 scheme has been trashed already. from what i understand, if and when 11-13 teams are around, all will get a share of the monies.
Damn Insurance company has me on the phone for half an hour. Anything new?
One of the biggest things the teams will want is to ensure 30% more teams doesnt mean 30% less money for the current competitiors
Nope, not this time. Might actually hit the sack already and just check again in the morning.
Night, guys. If something happens and I'm still up, I'll be back. ;)
This is a matter they need to settle with Bernie/CVC rather than Max. Let's see if it's put on the table.
Brilliant! Don't cross the streams!
Redbull have suggested 6 alternative things to do with £40M http://en.redbulletin.com/articles/to_cap_it_all/
They only get money the year after their participation and in the case of Brawn it was being argued they would not get it this year since they competed under the Honda name last year.
I am not sure FOTA would object to have another three teams but they will not necessarily give them extra concessions to compete (and why should they?)
Good work Lukeh, this monster must be stopped
Max will argue that the reason the cap was put in the first place is to help smaller teams compete. The goal in itself is a good one; only the execution left much to be desired. If FOTA can achieve Max's goal without using his method, then there's nothing else Max can say against the teams.
Dear, dear, dear. Your beer to coke ratio is all wrong.
Only two teams oppose budget caps - Head
If this is true, how the heck did LDM convince them ALL to withdraw if the cap isn't dropped??
GMM warning
But hey, he said it.
I'll REALLY sleep after seeing this on the BBC Sport ticker:
FOTA fight was more than just the budgets - it was more personal, more political and more bitter - it is the entire governance of the sport. Max took it upon himself to change rules with no consultation. FOTA had to make a stand otherwise it was a one-way ticket. If Max is relieved of position - which is clearly FOTA's ultimate objective they may well consider options to help smaller teams fill the grid places. The Budgets Caps are no more than a means to an end (preferably Max's).
There was a clip of him saying it on BBC...
I guess they agreed to all abide by the group decision, bit like a union voting to go on strike
Budget caps aren't the issue [But 40m is too low, straight off]
Creating a two tier championship is
But they agreed to trash that already last week. This is a governance issue more than a budget issue.
Nothing is agreed until it's in black and white
So now it's about haggling over a starting point for the cap
A decreasing sum, year by year will be announced in about 6 1/2 days time I reckon
But if you notice, no one's mentioning "two tiers" anymore. That's already a resolved issue. The main point of concern now is if a cap is to be implemented at all or not...
Plus Max's retirement plans being discussed, no doubt ;)
Where did you read it?
Sounds fair to me.
My assumption
I don't think there will be any budget cap
Bored now, I want some Fake F1 twitters. I might go and stir up the masses
Send fake Max one and ask him what his next move is
Not sure where the BBC said this, but apparently, if nothing can be agreed by today’s end, ALL the teams will withdraw. {Comment #445}
That would put the cat among the pigeons - though Max will probably not care a bit because he's dancing with the paper tigers.
They were always going to jump if the manufacturers actually went ahead with it - the big deal here is they are talking about it NOW..
I confirmed nothing.
All those people who are betting on F1 would be better off putting all their money on Nick Craw being elected unchallenged as FIA president.
You don’t get real politics in Westminster. They are all to busy fiddling their expenses to be involved in politics and they are all faceless. {Comment #522}
Well, almost all of them. One of my local MPs has been banned from the Houses of Parliament nine times, the most recent one for alleging one of his fellow MPs took drugs and citing the News of the World as "evidence"...
Worked against max...
You couldn't make up stuff like that. Even Rupert Murdoch wouldn't use the NOW as evidence
No agreement reached today... Meetings will continue tomorrow...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75521
I've often thought that anyone who wants to go into politics should be banned from standing for office
:D :D :D
There is an old saying that anyone who wants to be a politician or a policeman should automatically be banned from doing it
No agreement? What a shocker
Then they were wise people wot said that
I am not sure this is true - a united FOTA has the potential devalue the revenue of the entire sport. Leaving Max with only the new teams and no Monaco who is going to buy TV rights for this show? I keep saying the fight is not about budget cuts - it is governance and who gets waht back from the TV rights. If Max got away with this - he will use this saving to the teams to argue they get less revenue from TV coverage etc so FOM will get more. The teams quite rightly want more back from these. I can bet the way teams like Williams and Force India came on board (sorry about the pun) is that FOTA is attempting to extract more back from the commercial interests so they have a bigger budget to work with. This could also help any new team wanting to join F1. This is political and financial - the budget caps are the proxy for discussing bigger issues.
Guys, what if all this is just one giant PR stunt? {Comment #533}
If so, they must have even worse PR advice than Lewis did when he performed in that traditional Turkish play last year in his not-particularly-traditional race suit...
If GMM had a newspaper, it'd be a double pager
Campos' F1 team will be in conjunction with Meta Image, and will be called Campos Meta F1.
They gave up a bit early, i was hoping for an allnighter
When [and if] they score points, would that make them Happy Campos?
Worked against max… {Comment #726}
That was because the News of the World wasn't talking about stuff that happened 20 years earlier or attempting to relate it to a serious political point. When my local MP tried it, he was simply seen as being exceptionally rude.
No agreement reached today… Meetings will continue tomorrow… {Comment #728}
Oh, typical...
The unwritten rule in all boys clubs is, don't grass on your own kind
Slag them off, yes, but don't snitch
Dad just got back from his assessment and I'm pleased to announce he is now a fully fledged instructor for Palmer Sport! :D
Nice one! :D
Yay for Mr W
Send our congrats, SPC discounts all round, woo hoo! :D
With all this, you'd be amazed qualifying is tomorrow.
are you guys broed of the politics in f1?
Does max mosley annoy you?
Do you need light entertainment related to the sport?
do you just like pinning things to donkeys?
Then check out my new game... http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/donkeygame-jpg
I hear it'll be all the rage this summer!
Goo, your Dad! Congrats to him ;)
Good stuff.
I'm a donkey on the edge!
Lukeh, if you are not a legend by now, then nothing will ever be one again.
Brilliant :D
Entirely predictable - and it would be the way I would play it with Max as well. Max has no option but to concede something and I think in the end it will be a lot (he will be out of office by the year end in all likelihood). So if I was FOTA I would make him suffer, draw out the discussions and drum up public opinion (no Monaco none of the currents participating next year) - this is all strategy. FOTA chose the best place and time to fight Max - there will not be a speedy closure on this - I can assure you.
Careful RG, Timo is listening ;)
Best thing was out of 500 applicants, he was one of 4 to get called for an assessment and the only one out of the 4 to get called back :D
from fakeFIApress
We are not at all concerned about the teams all leaving as there aren’t any #fakef1 teams anyway! {Comment #553}
Do you reckon I should start one?
I think twitter fake f1 is getting silly. now fakeJenson has a fake stalker
https://twitter.com/FakeLouise
There is also a fake John Button but some of his comments are not family friendly shall we say
I shall explain all the stuff to Mr Glock, there is no need to fret :P
nahnahnah. play this,
its time forrrrrrrr, max's regulation juggling!!!
http://www.wangbar.co.uk/max
Yet the FIA chose the entrance window starting with the Monaco weekend
There's a list of three legends in my Legend book. Timo is included.
you have a better chance than litespeed
Man, my dad is an instructor for Palmer Sport. Feels awesome saying that :D
Dad just got back from his assessment and I’m pleased to announce he is now a fully fledged instructor for Palmer Sport! {Comment #743}
Excellent! Hope the instructing goes well for him and all his students behave themselves in the car.
Sorry for the delay, I was at an interfaith charity board meeting and couldn't be bothered.
I side with FOTA.
:D
Yes
It was tactical (and bad) mistake to push the teams into such a quick decision (Max hoping they would panic and sign up) - but all this having it on Flav's boat, it is posturing to focus that it is also Monaco GP that could be lost to F1 world
Wasn't there a jesus earlier?
or am I going mad again...
Which discipline/car?
He rose
I guess all of them!
This Jesus/God stuff has to end, I just read that as 'which disciple'.
Trouble is I like seeing bombs blow up in his hand
We forgive you :D
LOL :D
Cool
TV heads up #1: Red Bull Air Race has switched channel this year to ITV4. Review of 2008 at 4.30 tomorrow. Not sure when the first of this year will be on but if it follows the Channel 4 pattern it'll be weekly while they catch up with races held so far.
:D:D:D
Hey Lukeh you are a sadomasochist you have denied Max his favourite extramural activity of pain being brought to bear on his backside!
TV heads up #2: If you've never seen the movie Bullitt, it will be on Channel 4 at 10.50pm tomorrow. If you have seen it I assume you went straight out and bought the DVD.
you have a better chance than litespeed {Comment #761}
That is true. Even if I like Mike Gascoyne as a chief designer, I think this is an impossible task for him and the team.
Lots of big words in that sentence there, so I shall give you a big thumbs up and a smile :)
Oh dear, that's a bit like the board saying they have complete faith in their chairman
Man... you leave for two hours and the whole F1 world goes to poop.
I think what Max doesn't realize is that FOTA, FOM and the tracks like Monaco have an another option.
FOM, FOTA, and the tracks can headquarter the racing series in America. This way, FOM could be both the regulatory and finacial body. AAA and the rest of the associations that threatened to breakaway from the FIA could still do so and would love to stick it to Max for everything he has done over the years.
I personally would love to see that. Payback for Indy 2005.
Can't see the car makers racing solely in the states when no one is buying cars at the mo
[Though a US race is a must, along with Canada]
Dad just said which car he looks after will change every day he's there. So one day he might be on JP1s and the next on Porsches.
He did say his neck hurt a bit after all the G-forces from all the laps in the JP1s.
I am not talking about having all the racing in America. FOM could just be headquartered here with AAA's blessing. He would run and regulate the sport without the interference of a governing body.
The EU would see right through that so it would mean an end to f1 racing in Europe which i cant see happening
Yeah, maybe. Even if just to annoy the French it'd be a good idea :D
He also said he did indeed Palmer himself and that he's a very nice and kind guy.
Fake F1 update: Twitter won't let me have multiple accounts, so it's a no-go in my case. Seems a bit strange, since I'm sure other people have managed it.
For sure you would base it in North America to avoid FIA having any authority and anyway I think now is the time for the North American public to really start taking an interest. Max having manoeuvred the situation so there were no races has sort of made a drought. If I was advising FOTA this would be my line of thought - a very good point you made Dan!
Remember how Max survived spankgate getting the little countries (mostly African) on his side. He was going to use the same tactic with the little teams he propose introducing to F1 next year. I really hope this all blows up in his face.
It had reasonably good exposure on C4, much more than it will on ITV4, but it still seemed to get lost among all the T4 stuff..
He's gonna have to get one of those fitness benches with the weights attached to the helmet
I don't think FOM is a part of the breakaway?
You can but you need multiple email addresses one for each twitter account.
They sure got that demographic wrong
Not to change topics, but how on earth can the EU with all their lawyers sit at the sidelines with all the deals which have gone with the FIA, FOM, Ferrari, and the lot.
If I was a team like McLaren or Renault, I would be calling Brussels asking why they are not investigating the FIA.
Which is very easy [email protected], etc
The EU would see right through that so it would mean an end to f1 racing in Europe which i cant see happening {Comment #788}
Better still, the AAA and its allies could form the regulatory body and the FOM could do the financial function.
The races would need to be sanctioned by the host nations associations as well, so i think its a no go
They're not known to strike fast, just hard
So, should I start planning that SPC meet-up at Bedford already? ;)
No - you want to get away from EU -instead of Paris France you have your association registered in say Charlotte North Carolina - you can still have the races through out the world.
I'm confused, I thought this was the sole reason for him becoming an instructor?
I personally believe at the end of the day, Bernie has to stand by the teams. His deal with them is a lot looser now with no long term Concord Agreement in place.
Max might be a friend but this is business.
What can the EU do about it. They can't stop an American based organisation setting up a championship with races in Europe
:D
I think for him the sole reason was so that he had a job. :P
I don’t think FOM is a part of the breakaway? {Comment #795}
FOM is part of whatever makes the most money. If that means being with the breakaway, or even being with both the breakaway and the FIA series, then that's what they'll do.
Maybe need different e-mail or set it up on a different computer
Or IP address, but doubt it
He will otherwise he will lose lots of money and we know that there is nothing he likes more than money and lots of it! Money, money money makes a Bernnie happy!
SPC comes over putting food on the table, he's definitely NOT Borg then
Maybe need different e-mail or set it up on a different computer {Comment #811}
What I need is for Twitter to let me into the sign-up screen, which it refuses to do at the moment. It doesn't even know I have only one e-mail account yet...
New Twitter accounts are dependent on a new (unique) email address!
Bernie is driving the breakaway. Bernie was at the FOTA meeting
Tweetdeck?
I should probably catch up on today's tweets soon..
Have just discovered I'm embarrassingly behind on podcasts, much more so than my mental picture. Rectifying this evening.
Not to change topics, but how on earth can the EU with all their lawyers sit at the sidelines with all the deals which have gone with the FIA, FOM, Ferrari, and the lot. {Comment #798}
It takes the EU months to get anything done. Maybe they are already making preparations (I hope).
Max is and always was a pawn. Max thought he was Bernie's mate but i doubt Bernie ever saw him as more than someone he could use
No he is trying to ride on two camels at the same time (FIA-MAX and FOTA) - he does not want to lose out on any MONEY!
If that was true Max would have moved the FIA to Dubai 10 years ago and kept himself in power.
The races need to be sanctioned and the member federations of the FIA do that, and they wouldnt be too happy if the FIA had just been happy slapped
Base it in Mexico and call it Formula Juan
Oh please
:D
He's been on benefits for a long time. To actually have a job let alone something like this which to him is like a dream come true, is something which he's very very lucky to have especially in the current economic climate.
Besides, who wouldn't want a job teaching people how to drive racing cars? :D
(I'll make up for it by promoting like crazy in my Monaco preview :-) )
Bernie met with the teams before the FOTA meeting for lunch, he wasnt at the actual FOTA meeting
Tweetdeck? {Comment #818}
Adobe AIR refuses to install on my computer. Something to do with Windows Installer not playing ball. Personally, I'd rather not reinstall Windows just to get Twitter working.
Even if they don't, someone should
He's done good
I tried and it keeps taking me to my page when I put twitter.com in. However when I use another browser I have access
I am sure this is the case a marriage of convenience - but the Bernie is used to that with his real marriage
SPC Presents...
Which browser is the problem?
[There will be no bashing on a genuine tech support query]
The FIA has no authority over IRL and IRL can organise events in any country that wishes to host them. Same for any break-away group.
Other twitter clients are available
http://www.twitstat.com/twitterclientusers.html
Still think the best would be Charlotte North Carolina with all of the other racing activities. When the economy picks up they could be ripe sponsorships to get.
I think he has now jumped. Nick Craw and co have been very quiet since they announced they were thinking of setting up a breakaway from the FIA following the vote of confidence. Since then nothing. Logically they must be planning a campaign to get their guy elected in Oct/Nov. If they do the 100 year commercial rights deal will be investigated and Benie/CVC may lose the rights.
Bernie I believe decided to trigger the breakaway so that if the new championship is not the official FIA championship all previous agreements don't apply and new ones are not related to the FIA. So he can buy the rights from CVC and use the media and circuit rights as part of a new championship.
Since the FIA does not have any races it can put on regardless what Max says Bernie can surrender his 100 year deal in return for relieving the FIA of its obligations to put on F1 races over the next few years and no doubt throwing them a few quid to balance their budget.
No doubt he has a deal in place with Nick Craw covering all of this already.
At last!
FakeSenna (Bruno) says:
Going to 'borrow' @fakeKimi 's ice cream van for a spin round the track tonight. Will deliver to anyone who want a 99 with flake!
Isn't that down to CVC?
My normal browser is firefox so it takes me straight to my account. IE which I have never used on my twitter account takes me to the twitter home page.
They still need the races to be sanctioned by the relevant governing bodies otherwise the races would be illegal and shut-down.
In the uk its the MSA http://www.msauk.org
Imagine Nick Craw being elected FIA president and announcing that he has reached a deal for F1 to be governed from the USA. It all fits together sooooo neatly
Is Nick Fry getting ahead of himself?
Can't see that happening, nicky boy...
The FIA works with the US ASN which is ACCUS. The IRL, NASCAR, ALMS etc all work with ACCUS. There isn't the same line of 'control' as there is Europe but they do work together.
Firefox still has active cookies, IE won't let you sign into twitter?
He was talking about the next paddock cake
I still think the A1GP solution is more elegant, in the way described by Rencken the other week.
Sure - MSA is a national body - you still do not need to go through the FIA. I know Max has claimed this to be the case - it is not.
Nope, not enough accronyms there ;)
he is talking about the resolution to the situation of who will be walking away with the champagne and trophies after the race right?
Phew, thats ok then, was getting worried for Rubens
:D:D
Dammit, must try harder
I mentioned it earlier but the way I see it everything that has happened has driven down the value of CVC's rights. We have global recession, F1 in chaos and an FIA president who has to stand for election in less than 6 months. Bernie will buy the rights from CVC at a reduced price so that they can right off the whole disaster.
He can then do the deals necessary and take a lower percentage from the new championship. In a few years he can sell what he owns to another mug at a greatly inflated price because the economy will be better, the teams will effectively own the championship so are locked in and they can't really break away from a breakaway.
Intersting theory Steven, can't see him buying much till the divorce is done
A lot of those bodies wanted to breakaway frm the FIA and set up their own organisation. Besides they all like the sanctioning fee and the EU would come down on them like a ton of bricks if they refused to sanction.
Teams owning or running a series is a big no-no for me, purely because of CART. It was tremendous until they got too greedy.
Of course you know who brokered the deal between A1GP and Ferrari as the supplier of the cars for the series - right our friend Bernie - he will back the winner of the FOTA-FIA/Max fight.
Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/03/a1gp-boss-ecclestone-helped-broker-deal-with-ferrari/
I think Mrs C may start enjoying Fox's biscuits; their new advert has a panda telling you to buy them.
IE will let me set up a fake account though
Yes, but all the governing bodies are members of the FIA which does a lot of the work for them, they can sanction other things, and are probably obliged to do so, but they can tie any series they take a dislike to up in a ball of red tape
Panda, advertising Fox. Shouldn't it be Fox advertising Fox?
False advertising.
:D He will probably choose the winner and cut himself in on the deal aswell
This is essentially what I have been saying - you just expressed it very well and you went through to its logical conclusion and that Bernie will be the winner.
I am sure he will find a bank to put up the actual money
Bernie is always the winner
The (implied) promised engine situation entry has been posted, so you should be able to figure out who's on what number of engine and what (ab)use the engines have sustained thus far.
Hence the winner takes it all!
FakeMikaHakk:
@FakeHeikki If you don't pull your thermals up, I'm coming back for my seat
Thanks, what I do not quite understand is Kubica's fifth engine blew at Monaco during practice yesterday. This is apparently OK and does not get counted.
Can't go wrong with a panda telling you to buy biscuits.
Who did you pick?
Marketing genius!
For anyone that cares, I quit writing for BellaOnline last month, and have now posted all my articles to Sidepodcast for posterity. They are available in this category: http://www.sidepodcast.com/category/bellaonline/ and are notable only because they have no comments on them :)
Of course since we all read your blog, we'd know that. Thanks for it though.
Any reason you'd be willing to share or did it just feel like cheating on SPC?
Many reasons. Long version: http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/04/27/i-wont-even-talk-about-times-new-roman/
Short version - not getting any feedback, would prefer to write more here and on personal blog.
:)
At least you're writing somewhere for people who actually appreciate the work you do :)
There is a fake mika Hakkinen?
No-one yet
Never missed an article. Who wouldn't read everything you write?
Isn't BellaOnline like a y'know, woman's site?
No idea. I only ever read Christine's articles
Aww. I can think of someone.
No guess to who that someone is?
There is now! ;)
:D
Thanks, what I do not quite understand is Kubica’s fifth engine blew at Monaco during practice yesterday. This is apparently OK and does not get counted. {Comment #871}
I counted it (hence why the last engine reads "Monaco Sat"); I must have forgotten to count some previous change. The trouble is that he's changed so many I will struggle to figure out which.
Might try fake Peter Sauber.
Cos I can.
Must be those numbers...
And they don't share your love of Franck and Pandas
[That's individually, of course]
I think it is amazing what you have captured - I was also surprised that Toyota had gone through a good few. Thanks for this - it is really interesting.
Just about to watch the Red Dwarf Back to Earth trilogy on Dave :D
No fake Sidepodcast yet, I see.
To Paul, have just recovered your voicemail, it's ace.
We're just waiting for the word.
hypermendous?
:D
Evenin' Mr C :)
@fakeMikaHakkinen doesn't exist
was it amy asking about a fashion show in monaco?
apparently there was one. jenson, vettel and nico paraded up and down the catwalk. will try and dig out some pictures.
Here is a link to the state of play and photo showing that Nick was the Brawn representative on Flab's superyacht.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75522
there are some on www.jamd.com
Didn't want that. I mean, guess that wasn't wanted
I think even Mark Webber and DC did the catwalk thing.
we'll be copying questions for joe from the wiki shortly. pls do add any more you have asap.
Tonio Liuzzi and Adrian Sutil did as well
Coincidentally I just this minute wrote one.
Should we aim for 10+ q's per race? What's a good number?
nice one.
not sure actually. more the merrier i guess.
depends how long the conversation lasts and what comes up.
6 - 10 sounds good, start with the best/most pertinent working down to the fluff & funny
I love Have I got News for you
They should a notice in a sweet shop in Leicester
Only 2 MPs allowed in th shop at any time
ahh, fair enough. did we discuss this already. have just got in.
By the way Christine & Mr C:
We decided in your absence that the breakaway formula will be based in Mexico and will be -
SPC Presents: Formula Juan
Yes but for an Aussie man to do a girlie thing like modelling clothes is an achievement. In the case of DC he is quite old to do this.
Blimey it's that time!
No agreement - I wanted it in Charlotte, North Carolina!
i haven't seen it discussed, but i've been popping in and out all day.
I like watching the extended one.
Third party, I want it in Croft.
We need to sit down on a dinghy and thrash this out ;)
Just had to post this line I heard on Red Dwarf:
"I'm a cat, and there ain't nobody that's bossin' Mr C around"
:D
Saw a tweet from FIF1
With our budgets it will be life jackets only and treading water.
Rubens Barrichello will be 37 tomorrow :)
Would be so good if he got pole!
Now life jackets I can do, if you don't mind them being a little out of date
It was Nicky's birthday last time out and he didn't get pole so no.
Rubens has a chance though...
ooooooooh.
Remember me calling you a legend? Well, thats gone now.
I'm back - with two plastered girlies...
I only think they wanted me there so I could drive them home. :)
Any news on the Max/FOTA meeting?
You are talking to a South African - what is an expiry date between friends?
*walks away in the rain without an umbrella* :(
Nobody chucked him overboard sadly.
Suspended with no decision, resume tomorrow I think
*evil laugh while spinning a Toyota umbrella*
There's a storm brewing on where the SPC breakaway formula will be held and what it'll be called
Montreal for one!
Damn...
Great..
So it's a meeting like..
"Oh yes you will"
"Oh no we won't"
"Oh yes you will!"
"OH NO WE WON'T!"
I suggest a race at Croft, a street race round Newcastle using my design, a new track near Alnwick and a North Sea race near Holy Island.
Yup, nothing has changed
I'll call it, Formula Gran Prix like
Base it in Vegas and call it formula fun
Charlotte, North Carolina: Name undisclosed
Croft: Name undisclosed
Mexico: Formula Juan
How about Afghanistan and call it formula gun?
Host it in Birmingham, call it Formula Brum?
Racing updated models of Brum as well!
Sorta
If its not in the North East then RG will not be entering.
i thought you were a bmw fan? you're turning you back on you're team for Toyota?
Toyota power BMW anyway
Sauber fan/mild Toyota fan
Good old BBC!
I like your style
you have a point there :D
Big Timo Stalker, I mean, Fan ;)
A race at Croft would draw protests from the neighbours and theyd claim more money from the track! kill joys!
Don't stalk him anymore, just a wee little fan
Hey you are on my turf here the city I live in is the murder capital of the world and I live in its epi-center!
I know, I'm just annoying them even more.
Random but... does anyone else think nikolas sarkozy looks like jean alesi?
Maybe a bit.
Croft: Formula Smog
New SPC diary! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFJaKxtOHHY
Oooh, awesome. a Circuit cup :)
Five live formula 1 is on nowish
That would be a good reason to support your proposal!
Silverstone vs Spa is a real humdinger of a match up.
What do I love more - Eau Rouge or Maggots, Becketts and Chapel?
Damnit, I can't decide!
I think Formula Smog would need to be hosted in China!
Ouch, big televised tie coming up
Silverstone v Spa
The non-leaguers need some work
Interlagos v Valencia
Bahrain v Monaco
Other than that, average Premiership v Championship ties.
Violence towards Panda?!
Must stop watching football at the same time as F1.
yay! i'd forgotten all about it! more Ant - yay!
We in Teesside are the original smog coniseures (typo?) :)
Teesside? Someone else from the north east *hugs*
They were going extinct anyway - it just that humans are giving them a helping hand to fulfil their destiny!
Base it in Korea and call it Formula Won
:D
Support series of Formula won-ton
i thought that the first time I saw him
I forgot Britain invented many things like industrial pollution, building massive factories and child labour etc - it is just that China does those thing better these days.
Was on TV not so long ago and it just always kinda strikes me when I see him..
China: Formula Wok
Base it in Cape Town and call it Formula Zuma and get the government to foot the bill!
Interlagos against Valencia. That should be close
Def
No one tell R.G but Nick Heidfeld is starting a video podcast for monaco.
http://www.nickheidfeld.com/?1001A0A1A5571
Hey, cool.
Jumping on the Brawn bandwaggon.
the brawn bandwaggon? they don't have a video podcast.
Massa claims he is 'the motivator' no surprises there then considering the opposition
They don't?
Brawn 1, BMW 1
or a podcast at all for that matter.
they have an audio podcast with a photo on youtube
Oh yeah, the BMW podcast. I was gonna start that sometime.
Well, in the future maybe.
that's not a production for Brawn. Jenson has been doing them for over a year now, i think for five live... not sure. :D
No but Jenson has videos and voice recordings which is much the same.
I think they are for his site, but Rubens did one as well and brawn if i recall right
here is the actual podcast. i'll give it a listen after the five live show.
http://www.nickheidfeld.com/?6001A0A1A5589
His site has been recently re-designed - much improved as the original was dddduuuuuulllllll
they are put up on his site, but he advertises jensonbutton.com in them, so i think they are for five live or someone too (i think i've heard them use it anyways). Rubens did one because i think many people were asking for him to do one..
oooooo jenson and rubens on five live in a second! yay!
When will Timo get on the video podcasting bandwagon?
:o
*tunes in*
they are doing rugby updates atm...
When the restraining order starts :D
Back
I've stopped stalking him, for now at least. He's safe.
RB: "we live in a world in where freedom is the best thing to have"
I'm supporting Monaco to win the character cup!
err, circuit cup
So you are now stalking the Icelandic girl who sang in Eurovision and should have won it (IMHO)!
I'm just saying', but Sidepodcast HQ may have a new voicemail...
not that it's me, but sources have informed me there is a new voicemail is all...
i (heart) rubens.
Fantastic attitude from Rubens on Rado 5 live :)
Yes.
You like her? Stay back...
but i still want jenson to win monaco... :P
So, anyone know if there are two twitter clients that can run at the same time with different accounts?
If one were interested in such a thing
Yes I do and she should have won! We seem to stalk the same people at the same time!
So if Sidepodcast does start a breakaway series Formula (whatever.) How will it be different from Formula Juan.. Won... I mean One?
For me, I want racing like in the good old days of the 1910's where the driver had to drive along side a mechanic and only they were allowed to fix the car, fuel, and change the tires.
Now the geographic locations help me here. Plus I know here next concert, so mwahahaha.
another pre-requisite would be that the driver has to race in a standing position
No wings what so ever, skinny tyres
Hehe, Jenson is staying optimistic but not getting ahead of himself :)
Who?
Which is a step up from Formula Tom Yum.
That would be telling know wouldn't it :)
Well if Eurovision ever went Worldvision Song Contest we will win. We might go around killing people and hijacking cars but we also know how to compose and sing.
Jenson is always optimistic, well to the press anyways :)
But you have to get the people in the other countries to vote for you!
You stick with you South African singer, if you don't mind.
I would love to see the look on the engineers faces if a 1910's or 20's Grand Prix car like the Alfa P2.
Scott, congrats man, but unfortunately you picked the worst possible moment to announce it - everyone here is talking about the fact that nothing has happened in the FOTA meeting.
I went away for a couple of hours to watch a movie and there's 300 comments!
Second coming?
Yup.
Sounds good
Ummm.
Never seen it....
*hangs head and leaves...*
On the list, NOW! :D
Oooh. On bluray too.
Well now is your chance! Or put it on DVR to skip the ads.
Steven's good at doing that ;)
Added to my rental list.
I'm by-passing that unless I buy a PS3
Hi Def downloads is the future
We do care. Cheers Christine!
I notice I am getting compliments now that I am famous and have fans. My agent warned me about people like you.
:D
Sniff Petrol agrees...
Yes but we like some variety here as well.
Just give the following a listen - they are a Cape Town Group called Freshly Ground - yes me and my dog have met them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfjoa91Xlic&feature=related
If you like visit their website (currently performing in the Netherlands)
http://www.freshlyground.com/
Not at the moment - too many bandwidth restrictions an limits.
I have heard pop music in Afrikaans and it is DEFINITELY bad enough to be entered into Eurovision ;)
Ahem, 1930's
I got a lovely Facebook message from someone here called Ben telling me that he loved my inputs into the panels - that comment made my day :)
Very True so the best Afrikaans band is DNA Strings and they are purely instrumental
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9-WCjgAIn4&feature=related
At least my fans are prepared to go public
Virgin Media are offering me 50MB service with no limits, so they say
[not 'avin it though]
Still waiting here.
Other than Virgin's normal bandwidth restrictions they have in place for everyone.
Oi, Topper, NO!!!
Yeah, I'm "traffic managed" until 9pm
I go nuts after that :D
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sillyman-jpg
Hehehehe...
Vijays face is priceless!
He looks so concerned!
LMAO :D
Heheh, he looks concerned and Flav is scared..
On another note, who stole the breadcrumbs links on dropio? You used to be able to click 'sidepodcast' to go back to the main drop, and now you can't. That was useful that was.
hehehehe :D
Nice song.
Thanks ... they are one of my favourite local bands.
I very much approve, great pic
When do we vote on the circuit cup?
And i'm disappointed Abu Dhabi wont win..
minor issue. we've umm, lost joe.
careless, i know.
More more more...
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dcjenson-jpg
I don't have much else to do tonight as you can tell ;)
When the polls are up, which will be sometime soon I guess.
Got the wiki set up so, its all ready to go.
have you checked down the back of the fridge?
Did you have him first?
Lost him part way through, or can't find him at all?
You know the next question, how?
have you tried under the sink?
or in a carrier bag? I always fidn things in carrier bags!
How can it win? It hasn't been finished yet.
briefly, yes.
When you find him again, ask which circuit would win?
win what?
is he out partying? has Flavio kidnapped him?... erm....
:D next year... next year!
the circuit character cup thing ;)
Never mind..
Has he thrown flav's anchor in the water and run off?
Is there a fakejoe to take over?
oooh. the video went live? soz, was doing technical things.
wouldn't asking him count as vote rigging or something?
twwet him
:D
Is saying flav's anchor like saying piquet or felipe instead of something else?
They used to use a polar bear to advertise Fox's Glacier Mints, so why not. Also pandas were used to advertise Kit-Kat, so they have form.
it's a comms issue. nothing short of yelling will help now.
He forgot to charge his phone didn't he.
Bet he saw fakeSenna in fakeKimi's ice cream van and fancied a 99
ask him a question like which circuit dos he think has most character. can't be rigging the votes if he doesn't know which circuits are against each other can it?
Common mistake
Hmm, maybe you'll have to ask him after it's finished..
Maybe fake Skype is unstable
good plan. we could just ask if he wouldn't mind voting too?
Very cool!
ooo good idea! :)
So, today was supposed to be the day of reckoning and it has been put off until tomorrow?
Only in F1...
No problem, keep it up
Is he down the back of the sofa, where were you when you saw him last?
christine went to check a minute ago...
Do your own sound effects
He is at Monaco. Maybe he's fallen in the water
:P
:D
hehehe :D
If they knew that, then they wouldn't still be looking!
You don't look for something, find it and then keep on looking!
He said he was tempted to go to the casino, maybe he won big and he's packed it all in.
Good to see an aside with joe banner on grandprix.com
I have actually done that
wha?
wow!
Now that is cool.
Not down the back of the sofa. Hmm.
Top right
Oooh, I forgot about Quikmaps. Might make another track.
'Tis rather awesome. :D
I blame the panda. It is jealous because Joe has his own show
sidepodcast (hearts) joe.
Um... you know it says: "from each and every race."
Should we add... except Monaco?
Lots of pointing fron Flav tonight
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/nelson-jpg
:D
Thanks - there is good music, amazing places top visit and some good restaurants here in SA but the crime is ridiculous my work place has been broken into 15 times in three months.
Thunder City for me.
I want a flight in one of their Lightnings.
hahaha :D
That's what I said the other day. If someone says to you "oh, stuff's always in the last place you'd think to look for it" - Of course it is! Why would you keep looking for something you've already found? :D
Just thought I'd mention that once I get my driving licence, Dad might try and set something up so I can have a go in the Palmer Sport cars :D
maybe you like the chase?
Lee Evans explains it so well :D
Shame - my Bro in law and his family have also said the same. You lot are a good bunch of people to hang round with!
Watch NASCAR then!
i think that reminds me of a lee evans joke... or maybe it was a Michael McIntyre one... it was funny whoever said it.
I.E here :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yybQt10V6H0
Warning - some strong language.
It was Lee Evans :D
ahh it was Lee Evans! :D
Was it him that said that? I do remember a comedian making a joke about that - and I also remember agreeing 100% with it!
I just posted a video of him saying it. ;)
I can't keep up with the thread :(
I think my parents had that video ... if there is a bit about a castrated dog - oh man, that was so funny! :)
Bravo!
That is thought might treat myself to that instead of getting a RC Helicopter - I live and work next to the airport.
Ah you're thinking of the West End show from '95. The video I posted is a clip from his '02 show at Wembley.
Just gotta say, RG, you have done a great job on the wiki with the Circuit cup.
Ross Brawn was at the Fota's meeting today!...
...so was Nick Fry actually...
that flav... he has big boat.
RG is wikitastic, even Timo says so
Icelandic singers are yet to be convinced
Its what I do
Thanks
He is funny man. Silly too.
She likes it. I can tell...
Is it me or do they look like teachers on a school trip?
pitty he hasn't got lost in it for good really isn't it. :P
I was a bit shocked at the price. Last time I asked it wad around £7000
Wouldn't mind a go in the Bucc either. 10ft off the water at mach 0.9 with hands off the controls! :D
Wow... they hid themselevs well!
ahahaha :D
There is link to a description of that boat I have put up in this comment stream. There is 206 ft of it!
We all love Joe (and hopefully you've found him now?) but we should show some love to Mike Doodson too, his Hack Looks Back series is brilliant.
Nick Fry needs a visit from some sort of fashion guru, he really shouldn't be let out in public with those jeans... and why isn't he wearing a Brawn GP shirt like Ross? ... also, are they both wearing the same trainers? is there Brawn GP footwear now? lol
that flav... he must have small... feet.
I knew it would be - but what an experience! I have been in a Pitts Special and a Helicopter.
They were preparing themselves for when the budget caps came in!
He seems to have upgraded since 2003.
I think Mallya's boat is bigger. Indian Empress 312 ft (95m)...
http://yachts.monacoeye.com/files/category-oceanco.php
Uh oh, people, Mr C is trying to swat a fly. Sidepodinjury coming right up.
Vertical from takeoff to 50'000ft in about 1 minute.
Uh Oh, pt II
James Allen tweet (real)
check out my new audio diary feature using audioboo on www.jamesallenonf1.com. Today a reaction to the Ferrari news
Nooooooooooo
haha! is he standing up or sitting on the exercise ball? cause i think standing up would be safer...
Call 999 now. Order up a helicopter ambulance
it's actually good!
Take whatever he's trying to swat it with away! It can only end in disaster.
http://audioboo.fm/boos/22421-ferrari-lose-court-case
RUN!
And he's given the web his address... this will end well
Is there a bizzare injury list on the wiki?
Has he accidentally revealed his address though?
There is.
omg! he looks soo evil in the photo!! *shudders* that's worse than Anthony Hamilton!
i think so?
I think there is a sporting injury page
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Sporting+injuries
Ah yes, I remember searching for it the other week and couldn't find it. Looking in the wrong place.
You gonna add yours?
Aaaarrrrgggghhhh, did he have to put his face on there as well
It's doing a Uri Gellar on me, I swear
I am.
Yay.
i have silence?
Feel delighted to be on the same list as Nick Heidfeld, Felipe Massa and Mr C.
Maybe that's for the best.
I have to say that James Allen's audio diary is rather good so far.
it's also on the right hand side of his site too, maybe that might work?
I'm on that list too.
I know. I chose three random names excluding Montoya.
uh-oh... minus another 100 points for R.G for forgetting about Christine! :P
He's just talking, not narrating, not commentating
Maybe the feedback's gotten through the rhino skin
Hehe.
:D
I wonder if he will enter the support series to formula juan, formula juan-pablo
It can't get any worse.
-2,000,100 now
You need to think of something of absolute genius...
It will be the greatest comeback of all time. I have faith.
Panda's rule.
Franck is the greatest driver who has ever set foot on earth and should be in the Peugeot car instead of that Austrian Kline.
NASCAR is rubbish.
Got a few more captions and photoshops for you...
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/jean-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/james-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dudes-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/minham-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/gmtv-jpg
:D
....but nothing blatant :-)
awe.some.
I just added one of my own...
Ha! Great stuff
Bet it made you cry
I love them. Really like the GMTV one as well.
great captions, love Rubens one
Those are amazing. Can you do a mashup of JA and Jeremy Clarkson?
hehehe :D
MinHam is freakin hilarious! :D
Sure.
As terrifying as it sounds...
I know, it's just that picture is crying out for the addition of some curly hair and badly fitting jeans (although of course you can't see those)
Right, must love ya's and leave ya's. Have a nice night and see you all for quali.
Ciao
night rg.
night RG
See ya rg
you can all blame andy for this one :D
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/terrifying-jpg
How low does that rear wing seem now
http://www.f1minute.com/2009/05/19/ferrari-aiming-high/
Night RG
Random question... was there any reason they changed f1 starting lights from going green to just going out?
He he, looks Klingon now
Haven't you heard, F1 is environmentally considerate these days. Did you not see the stripes on the tyres?
Pretty good! I wonder what he's saying. "Jenson ...Wins could be the best F1 commentary..... In the world."
I wish I was on the panel when you guys did the Top Gear impersonations, would've loved to do that :P
Great pic, but had to read caption twice as I was sitting here thinking "why were Ferrari discussing the 2010 regulations back in 2005."
Also, the caption for yesterday's picture needs to be amended as Frre Practice isn't on a Friday.
The main reason is no-one ever bothered with the greens and all racing drivers at any level have always been told to ignore the green and watch the red and go when the red goes out.
There was sometimes a slight gap between the reds going out and the greens coming on, milliseconds. And sometimes the green light bulb failed.
Drivers were watching the reds anyway so they just used that.
Voicemail is availabe. You can call in an leave your impression any time you like and I am sure Christine will find a show to put it in.
They already have voicemail this week, that's all I'm saying.
ah, cheers
ta. fixed.
we do. we can never have to many ;)
I take it joe hasn't come out from under the sofa?
not as yet :)
BTW, have you had a look at Juice for Firefox yet, Mr C?
Perhaps he put his iPhone on Red and it came up Black.
nope, but it's on me list. yourself?
'Fake Sidepodcast' is now following you on Twitter...
uh oh.
ahaha fake sidepodcast is now following me on twitter! :D
oooooooooooh!
http://twitter.com/fakesidepodcast :D
Who did that?
Wasn't the green light abandoned because of some start light controversy?
well usually there is only one person to blame...
Wasn't me
Can't remember
And then he'll blame you.
should we be annoyed that fakespc isn't following us?
WHAT??? That's not possible Steven!!!
oh yeah, i forgot about that, wasn't me though..
I'm liking it so far - particularly the ability to drag videos into the sidebar and watch while reading the main part of the window. I think this could work quite well for the live shows.
atm they are only following me and lukeh.. is the person who did it a brawn fan?
Forgot the link - grabjuice.com
The only thing I can think is that the five red light system was brought in to let drivers know when the start was going to be after some incident.
Before that there were two reds and two greens with something like 4 - 7 seconds between them THe drivers at the front got no warning when the reds would come on. So there were incidents where drivers struggled to get a gear before the start because even if they were paying attention they may only get four seconds before the green
It is that much bigger it cost 58 million pounds and Flab's a mere 32 million. The Indian Empress is also much more beautiful.
What happens to the universe if Sidepodcast and Fake Sidepodcast start having a conversation together?
Don't try it
Much better. Normal service is resumed. Good night and see you all for qualifying...
try it and see :D
or maybe not... lol
The sidepodcasts cancel one another and you are left with nothing but fake.
The F1 calender should be decided like that :D
Wrong. In terms of logic, fake sidepodcast (anitmatter) and sidepodcast (matter) would destroy each other and suck the rest in the sidepodcast universe into a black and white checked hole to be (hopefully) spat out into a parallel but oppositte universe know as the GMM Universe.