We have reached Friday once again, and according to my super duper calendar, Massa is getting behind the wheel of the F2008 with GP2 tyres on, so look out for some pictures of him getting some Barcelona track time. Meanwhile, here are some of the things we're talking about:

  • James Allen has written about the Schumacher number business, which is pretty much old news by now, but I thought it was worth linking to. Lukeh's first comment on that item sums up the whole thing!
  • Whilst Williams team principal Sam Michael has been half complimenting his new driver lineup, Rubens himself is fired up for the year ahead. He's been visiting the factory, learning everyone's name, and says he is still massively hungry for success. This is good news for the team, now they just have to provide a decent car.
  • Pedro de la Rosa has been speaking out about any criticism's against him. Whilst he won't come out and say he's going to be brilliant this year (he's modest like that), he has said that he expects to surprise people and he's hoping that testing will get him up to speed. He's glad there's plenty of it.

That should do it for now, let us know what you've got planned for the weekend. Gavin's going skiing! I'll see you in the comments.

469 responses

  • Jeremy22/01/2010 at 00:09

    It is the public holiday Australia Day on Tuesday the 26th of January, and because I have Sunday and Monday off, I have a long weekend!

  • paul22/01/2010 at 00:10

    It is the public holiday Australia Day on Tuesday the 26th of January, and because I have Sunday and Monday off, I have a long weekend!

    Why on earth they made it Tuesday is beyond me. Is anyone going to work on Monday?!

  • Jordan+F122/01/2010 at 00:26

    I am currently not sure what I am doing on the weekend but I just hope I do it well.... Anyway, it is still Thursday in the "Land of Soggy Tundra....".

  • Jordan+F122/01/2010 at 00:36

    We could however, all gang up on Christine to ask that we watch the movie Grand Prix at some point before the 2010 season starts to fix our collective Grand Prix withdrawl..... It is after all, a movie most approved by Lou.... !

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 00:38

    We could however, all gang up on Christine to ask that we watch the movie Grand Prix at some point before the 2010 season starts to fix our collective Grand Prix withdrawl..... It is after all, a movie most approved by Lou.... !

    Good plan. It is quite long. At least the DVD version I have is quite long..

  • Jordan+F122/01/2010 at 00:43

    My DVD version is 176 minutes, or 4 minutes short of 3 hours. I wonder if that includes the intermission and the other silly musical breaks.....

    How on earth do you manage to copy and paste my text into a shaded grey box, Pat? The best I can do is cut and paste, and it looks awful.....

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 00:46

    My DVD version is 176 minutes, or 4 minutes short of 3 hours. I wonder if that includes the intermission and the other silly musical breaks.....

    Mine has the intermission and a long intro! May have to do some fast-forwarding..

    How on earth do you manage to copy and paste my text into a shaded grey box, Pat? The best I can do is cut and paste, and it looks awful.....

    Go here: http://sidepodcast.com/realtime/

    Then when you reply, just click the bit of text you want to quote.

  • Tom G22/01/2010 at 00:47

    Interesting evening. I was planning on an early night. Now someone's playing Cupid.

  • guille230622/01/2010 at 00:48

    Interesting evening. I was planning on an early night. Now someone's playing Cupid.

    are you involved in it?

  • Tom G22/01/2010 at 00:48

    are you involved in it?

    Unfortunately yes.

  • paul22/01/2010 at 00:48

    We could however, all gang up on Christine to ask that we watch the movie Grand Prix at some point before the 2010 season starts to fix our collective Grand Prix withdrawl..... It is after all, a movie most approved by Lou.... !

    I watched that late lat year. Love the old Monaco and (somewhere in France) footage. Oh! and Monza banking!!!

  • guille230622/01/2010 at 00:49

    Unfortunately yes.

    as part of the couple-that-should-be or as cupid?

  • Tom G22/01/2010 at 00:49

    as part of the couple-that-should-be or as cupid?

    The couple that should be.

  • guille230622/01/2010 at 00:50

    The couple that should be.

    I guess from your answers that you don't agree very much with it...

  • Tom G22/01/2010 at 00:51

    I guess from your answers that you don't agree very much with it...

    I'm too tired to know what to think.

  • Tom G22/01/2010 at 01:04

    Right, sleep time, before I go insane. Also have to present my coursework tomorrow afternoon, so best I did go to sleep.

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 01:11

    We could however, all gang up on Christine to ask that we watch the movie Grand Prix at some point before the 2010 season starts to fix our collective Grand Prix withdrawl..... It is after all, a movie most approved by Lou.... !

    I watched that late lat year. Love the old Monaco and (somewhere in France) footage. Oh! and Monza banking!!!

    Old Monaco? How can you tell, With the exception of the removal of the Marshall's box and the addition of La Rasacce, I do not think the track has changed a bit since it had the 1950's state of the art safety feature know as hay bales...

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 01:34

    Old Monaco? How can you tell, With the exception of the removal of the Marshall's box and the addition of La Rasacce, I do not think the track has changed a bit since it had the 1950's state of the art safety feature know as hay bales...

    The hotel hadn't been built yet so there was a different tunnel, chicane was different (surprisingly fast), La Rascasse as you say.. and the place isn't as built up as now.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 01:34

    Bedtime, good night

  • guille230622/01/2010 at 01:35

    Old Monaco? How can you tell, With the exception of the removal of the Marshall's box and the addition of La Rasacce, I do not think the track has changed a bit since it had the 1950's state of the art safety feature know as hay bales...

    the chicane after the tunnel was different (more a change from one side to the other of the street at full speed than chicane), and the piscine complex is also different.

  • guille230622/01/2010 at 01:35

    Bedtime, good night

    night pat

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 02:35

    Any news about a Sidepodcast League in Fantasy Racers, Mr. C ?

  • me22/01/2010 at 03:05

    Any news about a Sidepodcast League in Fantasy Racers, Mr. C ?

    well, we created one, and it looks like you're signed up to it.

    i think the plan is that we'll compete again, but it'll continue this year as a blog thing, rather than a podcast thing. i haven't confirmed that with christine though.

    if anyone would like to join, the league name is "sidepodcast" and you don't appear to need to enter a password this year.

    http://www.fantasyracers.com/

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 03:14

    Cool.

    I just wanted a typical F1 Team name, principal sponour, team owner's name, engine, and tyres and before someone else came up with the idea. It did occur to me that perhaps you might have forgotten about it.....

  • me22/01/2010 at 03:17

    I just wanted a typical F1 Team name, principal sponour, team owner's name, engine, and tyres and before someone else came up with the idea. It did occur to me that perhaps you might have forgotten about it.....

    us? never!

    well... okay a remind never hurts. it's me age i tell ya.

  • me (just testing)22/01/2010 at 03:32

    hopefully the annoying "+" sign appearing in comment names has gone away again now.

  • me22/01/2010 at 03:32

    (not that i'm the best person to test these things of course)

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 03:36

    22/01/2010 at 03:17:30#25 - me said: I just wanted a typical F1 Team name, principal sponour, team owner's name, engine, and tyres and before someone else came up with the idea. It did occur to me that perhaps you might have forgotten about it.....

    us? never!

    well... okay a remind never hurts. it's me age i tell ya.

    Well, I heard that the EMF of having a camera strapped to a person chest can cause memory loss, but why would a person have a camera taped on his/her chest?

  • me22/01/2010 at 03:40

    Well, I heard that the EMF of having a camera strapped to a person chest can cause memory loss, but why would a person have a camera taped on his/her chest?

    now that is a question :)

    i must sleep, see ya tomorrow.

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 03:41

    Actually it has. Problems decoding the space key into its proper value between codexs? Think it is 40 hex in ASCII, not to sure what codexs Mac uses....

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 03:41

    Nite, me.

  • = rez =22/01/2010 at 03:56

    Grand Prix? ...Did Jordan+F1 surmise to petition Christine early on to a 'John Frankenhiemer Oscar winning 1966 romantic authenticF1 racing movie Grand Prix' night?

    Pour some sugar on me Sistahh!!

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 07:06

    the chicane after the tunnel was different (more a change from one side to the other of the street at full speed than chicane), and the piscine complex is also different.

    Basically, there was no dedicated pitlane yet, so the back straight was still right beside the main straight. When they converted the back straight into the dedicated pitlane, they had to move the back straight onto the reclaimed land, and it had to go around the Swimming Pool that was there before it.

    And you're right, the Grand Hairpin was in that awkward stage - no more train station, but no hotel yet...

    Oh, and Grand Prix is EPIC. It's a must-watch for any F1 fan.

    Their French footage was in Clermont-Ferrand - which is odd, as the French GP wasn't there that year.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 07:10

    That should do it for now, let us know what you've got planned for the weekend. Gavin's going skiing! I'll see you in the comments.

    But I'll be here all day - we are going as a day trip tomorrow ;)

  • Jon Waldock22/01/2010 at 07:25

    1am sleep + 4am fire alarm.

    Though is not amused

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 07:39

    Not amusing at all, Jon. Who caused the alarm?

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 08:45

    For those who like the Get a Mac ads, here they all are: http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/get-a-mac-the-complete-campaign.html

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 08:50

    Good morning everyone.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 08:53

    Just saw the Nyck de Vries article. I'm shocked that he'll be managed by Anthony Hamilton. :O He's an actual driver manager now?? :O

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 08:54

    Hello, Christine.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 09:34

    I am working through my lunch today so I can leave early, but it does make the day seem to stretch ahead rather ominously.

  • neo22/01/2010 at 09:34

    Just saw the Nyck de Vries article. I'm shocked that he'll be managed by Anthony Hamilton. :O He's an actual driver manager now?? :O

    Could he treat the little boys managed by him as like his son before?

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 09:37

    Morning all

    Just saw the Nyck de Vries article. I'm shocked that he'll be managed by Anthony Hamilton. :O He's an actual driver manager now?? :O

    He has been Paul di Resta's manager for a year or so as well. Clearly he is building up a nice little business for himself.

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 09:44

    Just saw the Nyck de Vries article. I'm shocked that he'll be managed by Anthony Hamilton. :O He's an actual driver manager now?? :O

    He has a decent record, he's not ordered anyone to crash into a wall, Nyck could do worse...

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 09:47

    Is SPC doing fantasy racers this year, by the way?

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 09:48

    Is SPC doing fantasy racers this year, by the way?

    Must be topic of the day. The same question was asked at 3am

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 09:48

    Any news about a Sidepodcast League in Fantasy Racers, Mr. C ?

    well, we created one, and it looks like you're signed up to it.

    i think the plan is that we'll compete again, but it'll continue this year as a blog thing, rather than a podcast thing. i haven't confirmed that with christine though.

    if anyone would like to join, the league name is "sidepodcast" and you don't appear to need to enter a password this year.

    http://www.fantasyracers.com/

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 09:49

    Must be topic of the day. The same question was asked at 3am

    hmmm... search engine fail?

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 09:50

    i think the plan is that we'll compete again, but it'll continue this year as a blog thing, rather than a podcast thing. i haven't confirmed that with christine though.

    We definitely won't be talking about it on the podcast. As Mr C has said before, I think, it would take more than five minutes to explain it, and our shows are long enough as they are!

    If there's demand, we can have a blog thread for each race to share selections and progress.

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 09:52

    We definitely won't be talking about it on the podcast. As Mr C has said before, I think, it would take more than five minutes to explain it, and our shows are long enough as they are!

    If there's demand, we can have a blog thread for each race to share selections and progress.

    Seems fair enough

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 09:54

    i think the plan is that we'll compete again, but it'll continue this year as a blog thing, rather than a podcast thing. i haven't confirmed that with christine though.

    We definitely won't be talking about it on the podcast. As Mr C has said before, I think, it would take more than five minutes to explain it, and our shows are long enough as they are!

    If there's demand, we can have a blog thread for each race to share selections and progress.

    Can I take over the blogging part of that, if you're really not that bothered about it? I could incorporate it into my FR roundup post?

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 09:56

    Can I take over the blogging part of that, if you're really not that bothered about it? I could incorporate it into my FR roundup post?

    Sounds good to me. I was thinking more of the reminder threads I used to post, so that people have somewhere to put what they have chosen, and then can return to it after the event.

    Most likely we won't decide until about five minutes before we have to :)

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 09:58

    Can I take over the blogging part of that, if you're really not that bothered about it? I could incorporate it into my FR roundup post?

    Sounds good to me. I was thinking more of the reminder threads I used to post, so that people have somewhere to put what they have chosen, and then can return to it after the event.

    Most likely we won't decide until about five minutes before we have to :)

    Hehe no probs there - have a think about it though because I could definitely see it being incorporated into my FR stuff with very little extra effort ;)

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 10:05

    Morning all, I don't know what to do with myself today which is odd.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:06

    Morning all, I don't know what to do with myself today which is odd.

    What are your options?

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 10:09

    What are your options?

    I have nothing on my cards! The only thing I have to be doing is the dissertation but I have every day next week all set out to get through my dissertation regarding research, meetings, doing the work etc so I'd rather leave that til next week. Apart from that I'm free as a bird, I can't remember the last time I had nothing to do!

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:12

    Apart from that I'm free as a bird, I can't remember the last time I had nothing to do!

    Sounds excellent. What would you like to do? You have to start at the beginning and narrow down your options.

    Go outside/Stay inside?

    Do something creative/just watch TV and stuff?

    Make a flowchart or something. That'll kill some time :)

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 10:12

    I have nothing on my cards! The only thing I have to be doing is the dissertation but I have every day next week all set out to get through my dissertation regarding research, meetings, doing the work etc so I'd rather leave that til next week. Apart from that I'm free as a bird, I can't remember the last time I had nothing to do!

    Watch it, Mrs C will have you doing a guest blog before you know it...

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 10:13

    Go outside/Stay inside?

    Do something creative/just watch TV and stuff?

    Oh goodness, that's too much thinking for a Friday :P

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 10:13

    I have nothing on my cards! The only thing I have to be doing is the dissertation but I have every day next week all set out to get through my dissertation regarding research, meetings, doing the work etc so I'd rather leave that til next week.

    If you're REALLY bored, you Gant chart all of that

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:14

    Watch it, Mrs C will have you doing a guest blog before you know it...

    Shhh, I was building up to that.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 10:14

    Watch it, Mrs C will have you doing a guest blog before you know it...

    I don't know what I could write about. :(

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 10:21

    I don't know what I could write about. :(

    Use your photoshop skills and show how team liveries could be improved

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:22

    I don't know what I could write about. :(

    Okay, ideas, ideas, ideas.

    Rubens has been in the news recently. Apparently he's quite demanding. I know you'd have words to say about Rubens.

    Or, write about how you're feeling for the upcoming year. Whether this off season has been better or worse than the last one. If you're looking forward to the launches, or want the racing to get here already.

    You could write about what a mess testing is and how very confusing it all appears to be.

    Or expand on the stoopid Schumachers number thing and do a bit of research about numbers and patterns and who wins what in which cars.

    Or maybe some stuff about Mr C's new best friend Boullier and how team principals appear to be getting younger and younger just like the drivers. Soon there will be a chance for us!

    There's just a few anyway. Mr C is much better at the motivation thing than I am.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 10:24

    There's just a few anyway. Mr C is much better at the motivation thing than I am.

    That's awesome! I am tempted... I wouldn't mind doing steven's idea but if there's one thing I struggle with on photoshop it's anything involving cars. Which is just horribly unfortunate considering my love for them, boo.

    *puts thinking cap on*

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 10:24

    Bilge are suggesting that Vitaly Petrov is hoping to land a race seat backed by sponsorship of €800,000... per race!

    That's hard to resist if you're Renault never mind USF1 or Campos

    Not sure if there is a clash between Gazprom and Total though

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:25

    That's awesome! I am tempted... I wouldn't mind doing steven's idea but if there's one thing I struggle with on photoshop it's anything involving cars. Which is just horribly unfortunate considering my love for them, boo.

    Sounds like you might need the practice then :)

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:26

    Bilge are suggesting that Vitaly Petrov is hoping to land a race seat backed by sponsorship of €800,000... per race!

    Is that RG again?

  • dank22/01/2010 at 10:26

    Bilge are suggesting that Vitaly Petrov is hoping to land a race seat backed by sponsorship of €800,000... per race!

    That's approx. £12m for the entire season. Blimey.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 10:27

    Not sure if there is a clash between Gazprom and Total though

    I think there is bound to be. If he has that kind of money I am surprised he has not been snapped up already. He could probably get a 50% share of Campos for that never mind a race seat

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 10:27

    Is that RG again?

    I assume Bukd

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 10:27

    Bilge are suggesting that Vitaly Petrov is hoping to land a race seat backed by sponsorship of €800,000... per race!

    Clearly Dr Evil is looking to get into F1

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 10:28

    I assume Bukd

    Bild

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 10:29

    I think there is bound to be.

    I don't know really, they might not be stepping on each others toes, and oil and gas companies work together all the time. They're working together in the Russian arctic as it happens. So maybe, maybe not...

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 10:29

    Bild

    yep

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:30

    I assume Bukd

    Ah. I see the name Petrov, I assume it's come from RG's tweet :)

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 10:32

    Morning..

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:33

    Morning..

    Morning! How's it going?

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 10:43

    Am just looking at methods with photoshop and cars and somehow I've decided I like a reverse livery Brawn that I just quickly made...

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/brawnrevese-jpg

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 10:44

    Am just looking at methods with photoshop and cars and somehow I've decided I like a reverse livery Brawn that I just quickly made...

    My eyes!!

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 10:45

    Am just looking at methods with photoshop and cars and somehow I've decided I like a reverse livery Brawn that I just quickly made...

    Virgin is supposed to be all black

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 10:45

    My eyes!!

    I dunno why I like it. It kinda looks like a Banana on wheels.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 10:49

    Am just looking at methods with photoshop and cars and somehow I've decided I like a reverse livery Brawn that I just quickly made...

    OMG!

    Imagine a driver being hauled up in front of the stewards claiming he had not seen that in his mirrors.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 10:51

    I have nothing on my cards! The only thing I have to be doing is the dissertation but I have every day next week all set out to get through my dissertation regarding research, meetings, doing the work etc so I'd rather leave that til next week. Apart from that I'm free as a bird, I can't remember the last time I had nothing to do!

    Why do you have to do anything?

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 10:52

    I don't know what I could write about. :(

    Did you do Thursday Thoughts? could do it delayed..

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 10:55

    Imagine a driver being hauled up in front of the stewards claiming he had not seen that in his mirrors.

    He could claim he was momentarily blinded by it instead

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 10:57

    Morning! How's it going?

    Good thanks, have caught up on most of my work and cleared old rubbish from my desk. yourself?

  • Stuart C22/01/2010 at 10:58

    Morning all.

    I assume Bukd

    Are you typing in a darkened room?

    I'd heard he doesn't have anything like that much money. Still, may be wrong.

    Currently being pestered by wet cats.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 10:59
  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 10:59

    I think there is bound to be. If he has that kind of money I am surprised he has not been snapped up already. He could probably get a 50% share of Campos for that never mind a race seat

    Someone said the other day Petrov doesn't have the money everyone thinks... was it Stuart?

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 11:04

    ah speak of the man himself.. :-)

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:04

    Currently being pestered by wet cats.

    wet as an otters pocket?

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:06

    Currently being pestered by wet cats.

    must. resist. obvious. pun.

  • Stuart C22/01/2010 at 11:07

    wet as an otters pocket?

    Very nearly - and with dirty paws, too! They both scarpered when the postman rang the doorbell.

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:12

    If there's demand, we can have a blog thread for each race to share selections and progress.

    i have noticed a potential issue, and that's a certain blogger has also signed up. which isn't the end of the world, except we're doing everything we can to avoid comparisons with him, and this would put us right back in the firing line (number of teams, number of points etc).

    maybe we also need a random team name too?

    check your damn facts racing, or something.

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:14

    maybe we also need a random team name too?

    i meant a random league name. doh.

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:15

    i meant a random league name. doh.

    That's a good random name

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 11:18

    check your damn facts racing, or something.

    Ha!

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:20

    check your damn facts racing, or something.

    Ha!

    apparently i'm only allowed to create x1 league, so you may have to do it, but we'll hatch a plan later.

    i like the idea of it not being spc related and just a generic league.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 11:20

    apparently i'm only allowed to create x1 league, so you may have to do it, but we'll hatch a plan later.

    Perhaps Gavin should do it? He is keen :)

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 11:21

    apparently i'm only allowed to create x1 league, so you may have to do it, but we'll hatch a plan later.

    The League of Extraordinary Duplication of Site Features?

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 11:22

    i like the idea of it not being spc related and just a generic league.

    Unnamed Energy Drink League?

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:23

    apparently i'm only allowed to create x1 league, so you may have to do it, but we'll hatch a plan later.

    Perhaps Gavin should do it? He is keen :)

    Sure... I don't mind. I get the idea that the "other blogger's" league was started more by fans of the site rather than the blogger himself...

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:23

    apparently i'm only allowed to create x1 league, so you may have to do it, but we'll hatch a plan later.

    You can only join 2 leagues and you can't leave leagues so if you're thinking of making a new league, you might want to bear that in mind

    Perhaps you can request a name change of the existing league?

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:24

    The League of Extraordinary Duplication of Site Features?

    say what?

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 11:24

    You can only join 2 leagues and you can't leave leagues so if you're thinking of making a new league, you might want to bear that in mind

    You can't leave leagues? That's stupid.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:24

    apparently i'm only allowed to create x1 league, so you may have to do it, but we'll hatch a plan later.

    You can only join 2 leagues and you can't leave leagues so if you're thinking of making a new league, you might want to bear that in mind

    Perhaps you can request a name change of the existing league?

    I'm stuffed then as I joined SPC and VivaF! :(

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:24

    You can't leave leagues? That's stupid.

    Concorde agreement and all that ;-)

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:24

    I'm stuffed then as I joined SPC and VivaF! :(

    Ah, I only joined SPC so I can partake in another one...

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:25

    You can only join 2 leagues and you can't leave leagues so if you're thinking of making a new league, you might want to bear that in mind

    what if we closed the spc league?

    DAAAAAAAAAAAANNY!!

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 11:25

    say what?

    Well the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is like a film an a cartoon and it was the only league I could think of... And then I just made a reference to the Other Blog that we don't mention instead of Gentlemen.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:26

    You can only join 2 leagues and you can't leave leagues so if you're thinking of making a new league, you might want to bear that in mind

    what if we closed the spc league?

    DAAAAAAAAAAAANNY!!

    I think you're right. If you don't want comparisons then close the SPC league and call the new one 'Panda Something'?

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 11:26

    The first rule of Fantasy Racers is you can't ever leave Fantasy Racers

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 11:26

    You can't leave leagues? That's stupid.

    I guess it is to stop leagues recruiting players to improve their score. AUTOSPORT could have offered Kathi a bribe to switch leagues so they could win. I don't see why you should not be allowed to seitch leagues before the season starts

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:26

    Well the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is like a film an a cartoon and it was the only league I could think of... And then I just made a reference to the Other Blog that we don't mention instead of Gentlemen.

    as yes. the duplication of site features has been noted.

    magpie strikes again (..and again) :)

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 11:26

    I guess it is to stop leagues recruiting players to improve their score. AUTOSPORT could have offered Kathi a bribe to switch leagues so they could win. I don't see why you should not be allowed to seitch leagues before the season starts

    It's all so complicated!!

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:27

    Perhaps you can request a name change of the existing league?

    I think we did that last year, so that's probably a better option

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:29

    I guess it is to stop leagues recruiting players to improve their score. AUTOSPORT could have offered Kathi a bribe to switch leagues so they could win. I don't see why you should not be allowed to seitch leagues before the season starts

    Or everyone else could change leagues to one that Kathi wasn't winning :-)

  • dank22/01/2010 at 11:29

    Only just looking at this year's Fantasy Racers. Unlimited changes but £40m budget, or stuck with the same mob with £45m to spend?

    Surely, surely, everyone will go with the former rather than the latter option?

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:31

    Surely, surely, everyone will go with the former rather than the latter option?

    The latter is the lazy option, I can see the attraction for some

  • dank22/01/2010 at 11:32

    The latter is the lazy option, I can see the attraction for some

    Problem I see is, that I have to make my selection before I actually know how much each driver is?

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:32

    Only just looking at this year's Fantasy Racers. Unlimited changes but £40m budget, or stuck with the same mob with £45m to spend?

    Surely, surely, everyone will go with the former rather than the latter option?

    You would have been screwed last year had you picked a sacked or injured driver!

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:32

    The latter is the lazy option, I can see the attraction for some

    Problem I see is, that I have to make my selection before I actually know how much each driver is?

    Wait till Melbourne Friday. That's your best bet!

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:32

    magpie strikes again (..and again) :)

    how long can a team name be?

    i like the idea of the league of extraordinary duplication of site features beating the other blog. but then that might defeat the purpose!

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 11:33

    You would have been screwed last year had you picked a sacked or injured driver!

    Or you spent the bulk of your budget on McLaren and Ferrari drivers

  • dank22/01/2010 at 11:33

    Wait till Melbourne Friday. That's your best bet!

    And that is what I'll do. Or Bahrain Friday at least.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:33

    magpie strikes again (..and again) :)

    how long can a team name be?

    i like the idea of the league of extraordinary duplication of site features beating the other blog. but then that might defeat the purpose!

    Are they swiping code again?

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:34

    Problem I see is, that I have to make my selection before I actually know how much each driver is?

    You can do it after testing and Bahrain free practice

    The way the driver values are spread out you could pick 3 drivers from the 2 best teams (lets say Ferrari and McLaren look dominant) and a decent fourth driver - with 40 million you can't really do that

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 11:34

    as yes. the duplication of site features has been noted.

    I hadn't noticed. Will investigate when I get home.

    I'd softened my opinion recently too.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 11:34

    i like the idea of the league of extraordinary duplication of site features beating the other blog. but then that might defeat the purpose!

    Doesn't that make it sound like those in the league do that kind of thing?

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:35

    And that is what I'll do. Or Bahrain Friday at least.

    Bahrain Saturday morning apparently after FP3, before Quali

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:35

    Are they swiping code again?

    a) there is no "they", it's just a person, a laptop and much self delusion

    b) only ideas, not code (although i haven't checked now you mention it)

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:35

    Doesn't that make it sound like those in the league do that kind of thing?

    ahhh.

    ALEX!

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:36

    Doesn't that make it sound like those in the league do that kind of thing?

    I agree

  • me22/01/2010 at 11:36

    sidepodcast league now closed.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:38

    sidepodcast league now closed.

    Panda-something-or-other league FTW?

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:38

    Panda-something-or-other league FTW?

    Panda Racing League

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:40

    Panda-something-or-other league FTW?

    Secret Panda Confederation (see what I did with the initials there ;-) )

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:45

    Dammit!

    Was drinking my coffee, got that horrible feeling I had to cough, tried to suppress it and blew coffee all over my keyboard! :(

    All cleaned up now though!

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:47

    It's January and I'm sat in the office with all the windows open as the heating has been cranked up to Scorchio for some unknown reason.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 11:48

    It's January and I'm sat in the office with all the windows open as the heating has been cranked up to Scorchio for some unknown reason.

    That's my office.

    Every.Single.Day :(

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 11:50

    It's January and I'm sat in the office with all the windows open as the heating has been cranked up to Scorchio for some unknown reason.

    I am having the exact opposite problem. Ever since it stopped snowing, people seem to have decided that it must be warm.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 11:53

    http://drop.io...asset/brawnrevese-jpg

    It's like someone spilled a truck of highlighter ink on the car!

    You would have been screwed last year had you picked a sacked or injured driver!

    Rules say that this is an exception and that you can swap out the sacked/injured driver in this case.

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:54

    It's January and I'm sat in the office with all the windows open as the heating has been cranked up to Scorchio for some unknown reason.

    Right, out of curiosity, I went to find a thermometer and, with all the windows open, it is 33 deg C!

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 11:55

    Once you've decided on the name, BTW, lemme know. ;)

    Oh, no AUTOSPORT league this year, it seems?

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 11:58

    The way the driver values are spread out you could pick 3 drivers from the 2 best teams (lets say Ferrari and McLaren look dominant) and a decent fourth driver - with 40 million you can't really do that

    But I'm guessing there will be a lot of bargain deals in the midfield which you can pick up on if you go for unlimited changes.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 11:59

    Right, out of curiosity, I went to find a thermometer and, with all the windows open, it is 33 deg C!

    Right now, we're at a very cold 18 deg C. I'm wearing a jacket, but I'm shivering!

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 11:59

    But I'm guessing there will be a lot of bargain deals in the midfield which you can pick up on if you go for unlimited changes.

    The top 4 teams have all drivers at 12 or 12.5 million, everyone else is 7 to 8 million at the moment, not the same sort of spread as last year

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 12:04

    The top 4 teams have all drivers at 12 or 12.5 million, everyone else is 7 to 8 million at the moment, not the same sort of spread as last year

    True, but then you have drivers like Kubica and Rubens available at a cheaper price, so I think it's worth the trade-off. I would agree that it can work either way, though.

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 12:05

    But I'm guessing there will be a lot of bargain deals in the midfield which you can pick up on if you go for unlimited changes.

    Ah, reading the fine print now - a maximum of only 6 drivers

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 12:06

    Ah, reading the fine print now - a maximum of only 6 drivers

    The Kathi Rule. But given the price range, it'll probably be difficult to get more than 6 drivers.

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:15

    The Kathi Rule. But given the price range, it'll probably be difficult to get more than 6 drivers.

    :)

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 12:17

    The Kathi Rule. But given the price range, it'll probably be difficult to get more than 6 drivers.

    :)

    I reckon Danny has been tearing his hair out trying to figure out how to stop Kathi ;)

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 12:22

    I reckon Danny has been tearing his hair out trying to figure out how to stop Kathi ;)

    The Kathi Rule makes it difficult for Kathi to do her stock broker-like strategy of play, buying and selling drivers in real-time, because the driver lineup is frozen on Saturday and Sunday.

  • dank22/01/2010 at 12:23

    Oooh. McLaren set to unveil their brum brum on the Interweb next week.

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:23

    The Kathi Rule makes it difficult for Kathi to do her stock broker-like strategy of play, buying and selling drivers in real-time, because the driver lineup is frozen on Saturday and Sunday.

    that was how it used to be though.

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:24

    Oooh. McLaren set to unveil their brum brum on the Interweb next week.

    online streaming! yippee.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 12:24

    online streaming! yippee.

    *fingers crossed for dodgy film trailer video*

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 12:25

    that was how it used to be though.

    Not sure what you mean?

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:26

    that was how it used to be though.

    Not sure what you mean?

    two years ago you couldn't change drivers on a whim. or a least if you did, it made no odds to their price.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 12:27

    online streaming! yippee.

    I assume Vodafone servers will be hosting the streaming? Let's hope they can keep up.

    Just a thought, though. In 2007, they launched in Valencia to herald the arrival of Alonso. Three years on, and they're now Team GBR personified, and the UK launch says as much.

  • Amy22/01/2010 at 12:28

    kimmy noooooooo!

  • dank22/01/2010 at 12:28

    Just a thought, though. In 2007, they launched in Valencia to herald the arrival of Alonso. Three years on, and they're now Team GBR personified, and the UK launch says as much.

    Or it says: we want to save some money.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 12:28

    two years ago you couldn't change drivers on a whim. or a least if you did, it made no odds to their price.

    true. but i guess danny wants to keep the price increase/decrease aspect without people taking advantage of speculation on the value.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 12:30

    Or it says: we want to save some money.

    Probably both. But if it were 2007 now rather than 2010, they'd probably have done a glitzy launch in the UK anyway,

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 12:30

    kimmy noooooooo!

    wassup?

  • Amy22/01/2010 at 12:33

    she lost in less than an hour! I was counting on her to be at the final. Them rafa scared me a bit too.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 12:34

    she lost in less than an hour! I was counting on her to be at the final. Them rafa scared me a bit too.

    Oh, Clijsters! Yeah, I was shocked! Petrova had no trouble with her at all.

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:35

    now that pedro has left mclaren, and we have @thefifthdriver, who's the fourth?

  • dank22/01/2010 at 12:35

    now that pedro has left mclaren, and we have @thefifthdriver, who's the fourth?

    I was thinking this the other day. Shall I ask him?

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:36

    I was thinking this the other day. Shall I ask him?

    please do :)

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 12:36

    she lost in less than an hour! I was counting on her to be at the final. Them rafa scared me a bit too.

    I thought you were talking about Raikkonen

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 12:37

    I was thinking this the other day. Shall I ask him?

    that 14 year old kid, no?

    Nyck de Vries!

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:38

    that 14 year old kid, no?

    Nyck de Vries!

    they already have oliver rowland in the young driver program. if you follow that logic, he should be @thesixthdriver

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:39

    http://twitter.com/dank_ross/status/8067700499

    heeh!

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 12:40

    Alan Donnelly is not being allowed anywhere near the stewards office...

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81026

    ...and he's always done such a good job too.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 12:40

    now that pedro has left mclaren, and we have @thefifthdriver, who's the fourth?

    It's me ;)

  • dank22/01/2010 at 12:40

    please do :)

    I have complied.

    Still, he'll/they'll never respond. And that irritates the me to a degree it probably shouldn't do.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 12:41

    they already have oliver rowland in the young driver program. if you follow that logic, he should be @thesixthdriver

    They also have some kind of contract with Giedo can der Garde

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:41

    Still, he'll/they'll never respond. And that irritates the me to a degree it probably shouldn't do.

    could be worse, @clairevwilliams is yet to respond to a single person.

  • dank22/01/2010 at 12:42

    they already have oliver rowland in the young driver program. if you follow that logic, he should be @thesixthdriver

    Oh, well in that case I should have factored in their chauffeur drivers as well?

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 12:42

    Still, he'll/they'll never respond. And that irritates the me to a degree it probably shouldn't do.

    I've had quite a few replies from @thefifthdriver (although this fact may only irritate you more)

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 12:44

    please do :)

    I have complied.

    Still, he'll/they'll never respond. And that irritates the me to a degree it probably shouldn't do.

    That irritates me about a lot of these twitter accounts. They only ever respond to have a go at someone!

  • dank22/01/2010 at 12:44

    I've had quite a few replies from @thefifthdriver (although this fact may only irritate you more)

    Ok well, there are a few well known people who are either too dim to actually know how to reply, feel it's too beneath them to reply to us plebs, or just can't be bothered.

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 12:49

    Doesn't that make it sound like those in the league do that kind of thing?

    ahhh.

    ALEX!

    hello?

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 12:50

    i like the idea of the league of extraordinary duplication of site features beating the other blog. but then that might defeat the purpose!

    Doesn't that make it sound like those in the league do that kind of thing?

    ah yes.. sorry/

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:50

    hello?

    hi.

    i forgot what i wanted now...

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:50

    Doesn't that make it sound like those in the league do that kind of thing?

    ah yes.. sorry/

    that was it.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 12:50

    i forgot what i wanted now...

    :)

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 12:52

    I've had quite a few replies from @thefifthdriver (although this fact may only irritate you more)

    Ok well, there are a few well known people who are either too dim to actually know how to reply, feel it's too beneath them to reply to us plebs, or just can't be bothered.

    Exactly. I heard one (a tech journalist) say that they reply to when people send them emails, but then gets annoyed when they reply again as 'it's like they want to have a conversation or something and [they] cannot be bothered with that'.

    Does that sound snooty or did this person just say it wrong?

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 12:52

    i forgot what i wanted now...

    :)

    What does he want?

  • me22/01/2010 at 12:57

    What does he want?

    i don't know!

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 13:04

    http://twitpic.com/z5f8y

    Rubens karting with his kids, from the looks of it.

    Hang on a minute... he's using his Brawn-coloured helmet?

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 13:05

    http://twitpic.com/z5f8y

    Rubens karting with his kids, from the looks of it.

    Hang on a minute... he's using his Brawn-coloured helmet?

    Perhaps he's waiting for the Williams to launch before he debuts his new helmet?

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 13:06

    Alan Donnelly is not being allowed anywhere near the stewards office...

    three cheers!

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 13:06

    I've just been to lunch. Have I missed anything?

    #ducksforcover

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 13:07

    What does he want?

    i don't know!

    :)

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 13:07

    Perhaps he's waiting for the Williams to launch before he debuts his new helmet?

    I guess, but he was already using his traditional helmet colours (albeit with a grey top rather than blue) in the 2nd half of 2009.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 13:07

    Alan Donnelly is not being allowed anywhere near the stewards office...

    http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/81026

    ...and he's always done such a good job too.

    oh they got rid of Purnell too..

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:08

    I've just been to lunch. Have I missed anything?

    we got together and decided that what we want is everything, and when we want it is now. we also concluded you're the right man for the job.

    so, erm, not much.

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 13:10

    we got together and decided that what we want is everything, and when we want it is now. we also concluded you're the right man for the job.

    Sounds very much like a lot of work meetings I don't attend.

    Did I see that you wanted the SPC league renamed? Or deleted?

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 13:11

    I feel I should also point out the realtime doohickey doesn't work for me in IE8 - my employers browser of choice. :(

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:12

    I feel I should also point out the realtime doohickey doesn't work for me in IE8 - my employers browser of choice. :(

    noted. hopefully being addressed this weekend. maybe even this evening, will keep you posted.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 13:12

    I feel I should also point out the realtime doohickey doesn't work for me in IE8 - my employers browser of choice. :(

    We still use IE6!

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:13

    Did I see that you wanted the SPC league renamed? Or deleted?

    whichever is easier. i'm not sure we found a definitive alternate name though?

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:13

    We still use IE6!

    don't even think about it...

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 13:14

    We still use IE6!

    don't even think about it...

    I'm using FF 2.0.0.20 right now...

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 13:14

    whichever is easier. i'm not sure we found a definitive alternate name though?

    Much easier to rename.

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:14

    We still use IE6!

    don't even think about it...

    although i did notice the funky calendar popup works in ie6. the rest of the site however. not so much.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 13:15

    Alan Donnelly is not being allowed anywhere near the stewards office...

    http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/81026

    ...and he's always done such a good job too.

    oh they got rid of Purnell too..

    It's a good day all round then

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:16

    Much easier to rename.

    cool. i may have closed the league, but i'm guessing i can open it again?

    we'll email you later if that's ok? sorry to be high maintenance pain-in-the-bums. much plugging will commence next week to make up for it!

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 13:16

    We still use IE6!

    So do we! :O

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:17

    We still use IE6!

    So do we! :O

    it could be worse, you could be using opera.

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 13:18

    cool. i may have closed the league, but i'm guessing i can open it again?

    we'll email you later if that's ok? sorry to be high maintenance pain-in-the-bums. much plugging will commence next week to make up for it!

    SPC represented 10% of the Fantasy Racers entries last year - it's my JOB to keep you happy.

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 13:19

    cool. i may have closed the league, but i'm guessing i can open it again?

    Same link to open as it was to close.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 13:20

    SPC represented 10% of the Fantasy Racers entries last year - it's my JOB to keep you happy.

    Awww. :D

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:20

    SPC represented 10% of the Fantasy Racers entries last year - it's my JOB to keep you happy.

    fantastic. we'll aim to beat that this year.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 13:20

    it could be worse, you could be using opera.

    What's so bad about Opera?

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:21

    What's so bad about Opera?

    it doesn't appear to be able to count to 300.

    the spc sidebar is messed up on opera windows. fine on opera mac and fine on every other browser including ie6.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 13:23

    What's so bad about Opera?

    it doesn't appear to be able to count to 300.

    the spc sidebar is messed up on opera windows. fine on opera mac and fine on every other browser including ie6.

    Fair enough. Haven't used it for 5 years!

  • Maverick22/01/2010 at 13:23

    the spc sidebar is messed up on opera windows. fine on opera mac and fine on every other browser including ie6.

    IE6 does so hate blockquotes, or maybe it is vice versa, either way IE6 is dumb

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 13:24

    IE6 does so hate blockquotes, or maybe it is vice versa, either way IE6 is dumb

    Blockquotes work fine for me on IE6. Am on Ye Olde Comments, though.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 13:40

    Latest Rencken article is up and he's reviewing the current state of the teams:

    http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2600

    (paywall)

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 13:42

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2010/01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 13:43

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    WOW! :D

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 13:43

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    Hehe, nice!

  • Stuart C22/01/2010 at 13:45

    Right now, I'm Hyperventilating

    Someone fetch that man a brown paper bag!

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 13:46

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating

    Hyperventilating with a capital H.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 13:46

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    Would that be your data?

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 13:46

    Hyperventilating with a capital H.

    I would have thought it would be more like HYPERVENTILATING! :p

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 13:46

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    Would that be your data?

    YES :D

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 13:46

    Would that be your data?

    Check the source :P

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 13:47

    Someone fetch that man a brown paper bag!

    Heavens to Mergatroid! That's friggin' awesome! Five Pints of Awesome, even! :D

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 13:50

    So where is this on the website itself, Gavin?

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 13:51

    So where is this on the website itself, Gavin?

    It's in today's newspaper apparently...

    Could somebody do me a HUGE favour and buy me a copy? I'll pay to get it sent over...

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 13:53

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    Fantastic, well done!

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 13:54

    Could somebody do me a HUGE favour and buy me a copy? I'll pay to get it sent over...

    Will have a look for one on the way home

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 13:54

    Could somebody do me a HUGE favour and buy me a copy? I'll pay to get it sent over...

    I can feel another Page 22 phenomenon happening.

  • me22/01/2010 at 13:54

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    brilliant, and that's a quality presentation too.

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 13:57

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    !!!!!!! Congratulations!

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 13:59

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    That is very exciting. Did they let you know they would be using it?

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 14:01

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    That is very exciting. Did they let you know they would be using it?

    Yeah he requested it last night - I thought I had missed the deadline as I replied too late, but as it turns out I made it!

  • Stuart C22/01/2010 at 14:02

    Did they let you know they would be using it?

    That's a thought. I know these things are up on the internet, but a courtesy call/mail woudn't go amiss...

  • Stuart C22/01/2010 at 14:03

    Yeah he requested it last night

    Faith in the Grauniad restored...

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 14:05

    Did they let you know they would be using it?

    That's a thought. I know these things are up on the internet, but a courtesy call/mail woudn't go amiss...

    I did send a thank you reply via email (as he emailed me to tell me it had made the deadline). Is that sufficient?

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 14:07

    Did they let you know they would be using it?

    That's a thought. I know these things are up on the internet, but a courtesy call/mail woudn't go amiss...

    Oh... He left a comment on my blog asking me to email him and set up a Twitter account to try and reach me, if that's what you are asking.

    He left me a lovely compliment in his email:

    It is a genuinely fascinating blog by the way - I'm no technical buff when it comes to cars, but unlike a few others I was looking at yesterday you have a way of putting things so that I can understand them.

    :D

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 14:12

    Gav... I have been to the shop and bought 2 Guardians. DM me your address and I'll post you one today.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 14:12

    Gav... I have been to the shop and bought 2 Guardians. DM me your address and I'll post you one today.

    Thanks man. Let me know the cost and I'll reimburse you :D

  • me22/01/2010 at 14:13

    Gav... I have been to the shop and bought 2 Guardians. DM me your address and I'll post you one today.

    you need to take a pic of yourself in the shower with the second one.

  • me22/01/2010 at 14:13

    you need to take a pic of yourself in the shower with the second one.

    wait... that doesn't read right.

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 14:13

    Gav... I have been to the shop and bought 2 Guardians. DM me your address and I'll post you one today.

    you need to take a pic of yourself in the shower with the second one.

    Eh?

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 14:13

    It is a genuinely fascinating blog by the way - I'm no technical buff when it comes to cars, but unlike a few others I was looking at yesterday you have a way of putting things so that I can understand them.

    I think the interesting thing is that a national newspaper that people would expect to print accurate information used your data without knowing whether you were a genius or a muppet. They have no idea how accurate your data and calculations are but have printed them as fact. Is it any wonder GMM are wrong so often if other newspapers act in the same manner and then get mangled through online translation.

    I thought Maurice Hamilton wrote for the Grauniad. You would think he would have access to good figures.

    Fortunately for them you actually know what you are doing.

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 14:14

    you need to take a pic of yourself in the shower with the second one.

    wait... that doesn't read right.

    :) :)

  • me22/01/2010 at 14:14

    Eh?

    he did for page22. oh dear.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 14:14

    you need to take a pic of yourself in the shower with the second one.

    wait... that doesn't read right.

    Really?

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 14:14

    Eh?

    he did for page22. oh dear.

    I like ya Mr. C, but that might be taking it too far ;)

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 14:15

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-398

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-400

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-399

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 14:17
  • me22/01/2010 at 14:20

    Thanks Alex... DM'd you via SPC Wiki :D

    this requires a blog post methinks.

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 14:31

    The Guardian is larger than A4... Who knew!

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 14:32

    The Guardian is larger than A4... Who knew!

    They must be crazy

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 14:32

    Yet another IE panic patch

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/7052032/Microsoft-releases-emergency-Internet-Explorer-patch.html

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 14:37

    My company has decided to pay for your postage Gavin. I offered to pay but they said they would like to give you a gift!

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 14:38

    Here's page22 in the shower... They were very tasteful photos: http://drop.io/meandpage22/asset/photo-3

  • James22/01/2010 at 14:39

    Afternoon everyone, I never realised how tiring teaching can be :)

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 14:39

    Thank god!

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81026

  • Alex Andronov22/01/2010 at 14:41

    Here's page22 in the shower... They were very tasteful photos: http://drop.io/meandpage22/asset/photo-3

    For those interested in the page numbering Gavin is on page 10

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 14:42

    Here's page22 in the shower... They were very tasteful photos: http://drop.io/meandpage22/asset/photo-3

    Has anyone told Mr C that F1 Racing is a bit more waterproof the the Grauniad?

  • me22/01/2010 at 14:43

    Has anyone told Mr C that F1 Racing is a bit more waterproof the the Grauniad?

    i really wish i never said anything :cry:

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 15:11

    My company has decided to pay for your postage Gavin. I offered to pay but they said they would like to give you a gift!

    Aww thanks dude ;)

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 15:12

    Thank god!

    http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/81026

    You know what's interesting? I unfollowed the Autosport feed and a few others, yet I feel like I have missed nothing because I am getting all the good links here!

  • RubberGoat22/01/2010 at 15:16

    I think the interesting thing is that a national newspaper that people would expect to print accurate information used your data without knowing whether you were a genius or a muppet. They have no idea how accurate your data and calculations are but have printed them as fact. Is it any wonder GMM are wrong so often if other newspapers act in the same manner and then get mangled through online translation.

    I see what you are saying but I think you might be a little harsh there. If you read my article it does make sense and you wouldn't take it on face value. I realise that you are not singling me out or anything here.

    Anyway, I am off now. Might pop in later before I go skiing ;)

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 15:17

    Ahoy! Spam in the Episode 78 thread!

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 15:23

    Have decided I am a bit of a fan of Nico Rosberg having found this quote...

    „Ich war ein großer Fan von Mika Häkkinen.

    Ich habe mich jedes Mal gefreut, wenn er Michael geschlagen hat, denn Mika ist ein guter Freund unserer Familie“

    AUTO BILD MOTORSPORT

    Translated it says

    "I was a big fan of Mika Häkkinen. I was glad every time he beat Michael, because Mika is a good friend of our family"

  • me22/01/2010 at 15:24

    Ahoy! Spam in the Episode 78 thread!

    ta.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 15:25

    "I was a big fan of Mika Häkkinen. I was glad every time he beat Michael, because Mika is a good friend of our family"

    I'm not sure how that'll help him defeat Michael, unless Mika gives him expert advice. ;)

    It's easy for someone to say they like seeing Michael get defeated, quite another to have the goods to do it yourself. :)

  • me22/01/2010 at 15:26

    It's easy for someone to say they like seeing Michael get defeated, quite another to have the goods to do it yourself. :)

    it's unusual for michael's teammate to be saying though.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 15:26

    "I was a big fan of Mika Häkkinen. I was glad every time he beat Michael, because Mika is a good friend of our family"

    I hope he carries on with statements like that

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 15:27

    it's unusual for michael's teammate to be saying though.

    well, rubens did say something along the lines of him wanting to beat michael when they first became teammates. johnny herbert too, i think. others have been more... accommodating, like Jos the Boss, Irvine and Massa.

  • Journeyer22/01/2010 at 15:27

    I hope he carries on with statements like that

    I'd rather see him beat Michael than talk about it.

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 15:29

    I'd rather see him beat Michael than talk about it.

    I read it that he is not a Schumacher fan. Good no am I so get on and kick his a__e this season.

  • Jon Waldock22/01/2010 at 15:53

    Just thought I'd come and say hello and congratulations to Gavin! We're all very proud of ya!

    On a differnet note. KARTING tonight :D woop

  • Janna22/01/2010 at 16:05

    Mobile commenting from work but wanted to say WOW amazing to Gavin. Always knew your work was fantastic & now the Grauniad readers can see it too. :lol:

  • Janna22/01/2010 at 16:07

    Now off to drink lots & eat lovely Indian food.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 16:07

    Anyway, I am off now. Might pop in later before I go skiing ;)

    Have fun. When you come back you HAVE to tell us if your page views jumped :-)

  • Alison in Dubai22/01/2010 at 16:29

    Hello all :D

    We're both feeling slightly the worse for wear today.....

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 16:29

    We're both feeling slightly the worse for wear today.....

    hi :-)

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 16:29

    Last hour of the working week for me, and it's draaggginggg

  • Alison in Dubai22/01/2010 at 16:30

    hi :-)

    It's 8.30pm here and I'm still to hungover to stand up :P

  • startledbunny22/01/2010 at 16:31

    It's 8.30pm here and I'm still to hungover to stand up :P

    standing is overrated

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 16:32

    It's 8.30pm here and I'm still to hungover to stand up :P

    ooh dear :-)

  • Amy22/01/2010 at 16:33

    Gosh, McLaren are really trying with their membership program this year. A few days after getting an email saying they have places available for members to attend testing with them, I just get this one:

    "We are very pleased to confirm that we have spaces for our members to be part of this year's Vodafone McLaren Mercedes car launch day, which will take place on Friday 29 January 2010 in Newbury, UK!"

    I totally live in the wrong part of the world.

  • lou22/01/2010 at 16:48

    Gosh, McLaren are really trying with their membership program this year. A few days after getting an email saying they have places available for members to attend testing with them, I just get this one:

    hey everyone!

    "We are very pleased to confirm that we have spaces for our members to be part of this year's Vodafone McLaren Mercedes car launch day, which will take place on Friday 29 January 2010 in Newbury, UK!"

    I totally live in the wrong part of the world.

    you really do.. you could have met Jenson and everything! dad asked how much membership was and upon learning the price had a huge rant about formula 1 costing so much money. :)

  • Amy22/01/2010 at 16:49

    you really do.. you could have met Jenson and everything! dad asked how much membership was and upon learning the price had a huge rant about formula 1 costing so much money. :)

    the value of the pack you get is about equal to the price of the membership, which suits me. I like me some merchandise haha.

  • lou22/01/2010 at 16:50

    the value of the pack you get is about equal to the price of the membership, which suits me. I like me some merchandise haha.

    ahh now that's a good way of looking at it :)

  • Amy22/01/2010 at 16:51

    ahh now that's a good way of looking at it :)

    apparently not so many people like not getting a choice of merchandise though so they might be changing the membership to just be a e-shop voucher. This is :( as the international shipping from their shop is ridiculous.

  • lou22/01/2010 at 16:57

    apparently not so many people like not getting a choice of merchandise though so they might be changing the membership to just be a e-shop voucher. This is :( as the international shipping from their shop is ridiculous.

    aww.. general -shop voucher seems to make more sense though.

  • Amy22/01/2010 at 16:58

    aww.. general -shop voucher seems to make more sense though.

    i have trouble making decisions. Vouchers are not good for me :D

  • lou22/01/2010 at 17:07

    i have trouble making decisions. Vouchers are not good for me :D

    :)

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 17:16

    = rez = said: Grand Prix? ...Did Jordan+F1 surmise to petition Christine early on to a 'John Frankenhiemer Oscar winning 1966 romantic authenticF1 racing movie Grand Prix' night?

    Yes, back on May 4th, 2009 I suggested that Christine watch John Frankenheimer's Grand Prix on the Introductionary Post of Film Watch on her smarterthanyouraverage website.

    Her lack of an emotional response combined with her poor rating for Blade Runner has made me wonder if she is the missing sixth repliant from the Director's Cut and previous versions of Blade Runner, although.

    Can Mr. C. run a Voight-Kampff test on Christine, just to be sure?

    Pour some sugar on me Sistahh!!

    Well, that's illogical enough for your humanity to pass unquestioned....= rez =.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 17:20

    Official Brawn GP has changed to OfficialMGP on twitter, and just posted a link to the website

    http://motorsport.mercedes-benz.com/comingsoon/index_en.html

    Goodbye, dear Brawn :(

  • lou22/01/2010 at 17:22

    Official Brawn GP has changed to OfficialMGP on twitter, and just posted a link to the website

    nico annoys me.. more than i remember.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 17:22

    nico annoys me.. more than i remember.

    He went for his number, I wonder if Schumacher will demand he has the number one hair in the team

  • Tom G22/01/2010 at 17:43

    Evening everyone. Presentation sort of went well, if you might wonder.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 17:44

    Evening everyone. Presentation sort of went well, if you might wonder.

    Evening, least it went well. Got through it all ok or had a hiccup here and there?

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 17:44

    Evening everyone. Presentation sort of went well, if you might wonder.

    Well done

  • Tom G22/01/2010 at 17:45

    Evening, least it went well. Got through it all ok or had a hiccup here and there?

    Well, as it turned out, I speak too fast, so 2 sides of A4 on dialogue wasn't enough, but I got through it alright.

  • James22/01/2010 at 17:46

    Well, as it turned out, I speak too fast, so 2 sides of A4 on dialogue wasn't enough, but I got through it alright.

    Hehe I've done that, I just can't talk slow I want the presentation over with!

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 17:48

    Well, as it turned out, I speak too fast, so 2 sides of A4 on dialogue wasn't enough, but I got through it alright.

    Everyone speaks too fast when they start doing presentations. You have to do a few before you learn how slowly you have to speak.

  • Tom G22/01/2010 at 17:55

    Everyone speaks too fast when they start doing presentations. You have to do a few before you learn how slowly you have to speak.

    I didn't really speak that fast, it was just I was beginning to repeat myself without realising and so sort of lost it a bit. Should have gone for the comedy element...

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 17:56

    Goodbye, dear Brawn :(

    The Brawn website is no more!

  • me22/01/2010 at 18:00

    Goodbye, dear Brawn :(

    The Brawn website is no more!

    that looks ooooh so much better.

  • me22/01/2010 at 18:00

    that looks ooooh so much better.

    lovely video player too.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 18:02

    Hello again. My Autosport mag turned up today. Interesting that Karun Chandok says Schumacher's GP2 test has raised the profile of that series outside Europe, particularly India... Maybe he'll get more sponsorship now.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 18:03

    The Brawn website is no more!

    It redirects to Nico

    am sad. :(

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 18:03

    that looks ooooh so much better.

    lovely video player too.

    And our first look at Rosberg in Merc colours?

  • me22/01/2010 at 18:03

    And our first look at Rosberg in Merc colours?

    in video form. there were pics around the announcement.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 18:04

    in video form. there were pics around the announcement.

    Ah. Short memory.

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 18:30

    Nick Heidfeld is apparently to be the Mercedes test driver and it is to be announced formally on Monday according to Auto Bild motorsport. The contract has supposedly been signed.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 18:32

    Nick Heidfeld is apparently to be the Mercedes test driver and it is to be announced formally on Monday according to Auto Bild motorsport. The contract has supposedly been signed.

    But... but... but... what about Ant? :(

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:32

    Nick Heidfeld is apparently to be the Mercedes test driver and it is to be announced formally on Monday according to Auto Bild motorsport. The contract has supposedly been signed.

    Bild is not a great source but I can see that happening. If he can't get a decent drive elsewhere then he may as well go to a team where one driver is unproven and the other has a dodgy neck. Could turn out to be a great move for him.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:33

    But... but... but... what about Ant? :(

    DTM with Audi is the rumour

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:33

    I think I will build a wall and name it after Sutil.

    Adrian's wall

  • Bert22/01/2010 at 18:34

    Being nominated test driver has become the equivalent to being given a white elephant, no?

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 18:34

    DTM with Audi is the rumour

    Well at least he'll be driving, and that suits him to still do 5 Live as well. Still needs to be in F1 though :(

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:35

    I think I will build a wall and name it after Sutil.

    Adrian's wall

    Wrong thread

  • lou22/01/2010 at 18:36

    Nick Heidfeld is apparently to be the Mercedes test driver and it is to be announced formally on Monday according to Auto Bild motorsport. The contract has supposedly been signed.

    team brackley is well and truly over isn't it :( I still hearts team shov and bono :)

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 18:36

    Blogging question: In Wordpress, what is the difference between a post tag and a post category?

    When I imported all my posts into WP, it decided to change all my Blogger tags into WP categories, rather than WP tags..

  • lou22/01/2010 at 18:36

    DTM with Audi is the rumour

    ive heard about this rumour, i may need to start following DTM :P

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:37

    team brackley is well and truly over isn't it :( I still hearts team shov and bono :)

    I told you Brawn was a bad man

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 18:37

    team brackley is well and truly over isn't it :( I still hearts team shov and bono :)

    I miss 2009 :(

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 18:37

    ive heard about this rumour, i may need to start following DTM :P

    They race at Brands Hatch..

  • RG22/01/2010 at 18:37

    DTM with Audi is the rumour

    Phew.

    Evnin all

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:38

    ive heard about this rumour, i may need to start following DTM :P

    There are no claendar clashes between DTM and F1 by design. Another rumour suggests DC will drive for Mercedes. Both can still commentate in F1 though

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 18:38

    Being nominated test driver has become the equivalent to being given a white elephant, no?

    Something of a step down, definitely. I can't see why he'd take that over the Renault unless he doesn't want to be alongside Kubica again, or he thinks MS will flounder

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 18:39

    team brackley is well and truly over isn't it :( I still hearts team shov and bono :)

    Seems like it - Nick does have a similar driving style to Jenson - not that I think it is significant. I am not sure I really understand this move. It was fairly clear that Renault are looking for money despite what they are say and Petrov can now offer 13 million pounds and he is probably a decent driver.

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 18:40

    Something of a step down, definitely. I can't see why he'd take that over the Renault unless he doesn't want to be alongside Kubica again, or he thinks MS will flounder

    Money - the team needs lots of it is my guess.

  • lou22/01/2010 at 18:40

    I told you Brawn was a bad man

    but...but.... i still like him.... he saved my team.... before destroying it...

  • lou22/01/2010 at 18:40

    They race at Brands Hatch..

    i may need an iheartant blog :P

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 18:41

    I told you Brawn was a bad man

    I have not actually forgiven him the way he treated Jenson - it was clear they initially did not want to pay him what as a World Champion you would expect.

  • Alison in Dubai22/01/2010 at 18:41

    i have trouble making decisions. Vouchers are not good for me :D

    #sameperson

  • Lady Snowcat22/01/2010 at 18:42

    If Nick Heidfeld ends up as the Macca test driver perhaps they have doubts about Jense (or Lewis) staying the course after the next round of handbags at dawn... or is that at pit stops.....

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:42

    Seems like it - Nick does have a similar driving style to Jenson - not that I think it is significant. I am not sure I really understand this move. It was fairly clear that Renault are looking for money despite what they are say and Petrov can now offer 13 million pounds and he is probably a decent driver.

    The Renault has been rubbish for two years and there is no reason with all the upheaval that this year's will be any better. Before they only had to deal with McLaren and Ferrari but now there are four top teams. It may be a long time before they are competitive again.

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 18:42

    but...but.... i still like him.... he saved my team.... before destroying it...

    and pushing out your driver!

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:43

    #sameperson

    Has the room stopped spinning yet?

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:44

    but...but.... i still like him.... he saved my team.... before destroying it...

    All he did was wait long enough to pocket a load of cash before he destroyed it

  • lou22/01/2010 at 18:45

    and pushing out your driver!

    i really dont think he was pushed... I think it was Jenson's choice. they wouldn't have signed nico if they were going to push Jenson out.

  • Alison in Dubai22/01/2010 at 18:46

    Has the room stopped spinning yet?

    I don't know. The epic wait for food has once again begun!

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 18:46

    The Renault has been rubbish for two years and there is no reason with all the upheaval that this year's will be any better. Before they only had to deal with McLaren and Ferrari but now there are four top teams. It may be a long time before they are competitive again.

    I like to think they could build a championship winning car - and honestly with Nick and Robert they would have had solid drivers. Not sure, unless they get Takuma or Christian they will do much - Robert is good but they probably need two inputs to develop the car.

  • me22/01/2010 at 18:46

    just for consistency, a jamie breakout: http://sidepodcast.com/2010/01/22/toro-rosso-confirm-alguersuari-for-2010/

  • Lady Snowcat22/01/2010 at 18:47

    Did they sign Nico?... I thought they did a swapsy as Frank and Patrick couldn't bear a team with two pretty Germans....

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 18:47

    #325 - Steven Roy said: I think I will build a wall and name it after Sutil.

    Adrian's wall

    Oooh a wall, and I just happen to have a battering ram named PKiho.....

  • me22/01/2010 at 18:47

    team brackley is well and truly over isn't it :( I still hearts team shov and bono :)

    I told you Brawn was a bad man

    you did. we should've listened.

  • me22/01/2010 at 18:48

    Blogging question: In Wordpress, what is the difference between a post tag and a post category?

    When I imported all my posts into WP, it decided to change all my Blogger tags into WP categories, rather than WP tags..

    it's a debate christine and i have regularly. still no consensus.

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 18:48

    i really dont think he was pushed... I think it was Jenson's choice. they wouldn't have signed nico if they were going to push Jenson out.

    He was pushed in the fact he felt unvalued by the team and Ross. That is so clear. Yes it was Jenson would made the decision to cut the umbilical cord.

  • Lady Snowcat22/01/2010 at 18:50

    Well we'll perhaps get to see if Jense was under or over valued in a few months...

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:51

    I like to think they could build a championship winning car - and honestly with Nick and Robert they would have had solid drivers. Not sure, unless they get Takuma or Christian they will do much - Robert is good but they probably need two inputs to develop the car.

    It took them ten years to build a championship winning car after Schumacher's two titles. I think their is more chance of Williams building a winning car than Renault

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 18:52

    Did they sign Nico?... I thought they did a swapsy as Frank and Patrick couldn't bear a team with two pretty Germans....

    No swaps. Two separate deals

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 19:00

    it's a debate christine and i have regularly. still no consensus.

    hmm. I'm used to clicking it and all my posts with that name appear. I click this and it tells me about other people's blogs with it in. not so useful.

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 19:00

    Oh ye, I agree Williams will be fifth best - good driver line-up and Rubens is a good developer (not that it seemed to have helped Honda). It is a clean-sheet design though!

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:01

    Oh ye, I agree Williams will be fifth best - good driver line-up and Rubens is a good developer (not that it seemed to have helped Honda). It is a clean-sheet design though!

    It's not Rubens' fault they had designed a rrrrrrrrubbish car!

  • me22/01/2010 at 19:02

    Being nominated test driver has become the equivalent to being given a white elephant, no?

    i don't understand that move at all. is nick hoping schumi won't see the season out too?

  • me22/01/2010 at 19:03

    But... but... but... what about Ant? :(

    ooh, hadn't thought about that.

    oh dear :(

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 19:03

    It's not Rubens' fault they had designed a rrrrrrrrubbish car!

    I was not blaming Rubens at all - actually it was that it was so Rubbish even with Rubens it was going nowhere.

  • RG22/01/2010 at 19:03

    i don't understand that move at all. is nick hoping schumi won't see the season out too?

    Might be taking like a sabbatical but remain in the sport, not had the best of years at BMW and just wants to regain confidence and the such?

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:04

    I was not blaming Rubens at all - actually it was that it was so Rubbish even with Rubens it was going nowhere.

    I suppose there's not much you can do to develop a car that is going nowhere. Both Jenson and himself tried to get the best out of it but those were 2 sour years :(

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 19:04

    Oh ye, I agree Williams will be fifth best - good driver line-up and Rubens is a good developer (not that it seemed to have helped Honda). It is a clean-sheet design though!

    Honda's problem was it's wind tunnel calibration was miles out. Nothing a driver can do about that.

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 19:05

    i don't understand that move at all. is nick hoping schumi won't see the season out too?

    that is what it seems to suggest, unfortunately I think that is such a long shot, unless there really are still some concerns. I noted they waited until after his GP2 test before deciding. It is very strange.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 19:05

    i don't understand that move at all. is nick hoping schumi won't see the season out too?

    That and the only open seat he could be interested in is Renault and I think they want someone with money.

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 19:06

    Honda's problem was it's wind tunnel calibration was miles out. Nothing a driver can do about that.

    I just do not get how several wind tunnel calibrations can be out. I know the Brawn ironically had quite a bit of the Super Aguri design in it.

  • me22/01/2010 at 19:08

    autosport says it's challenging the beeb: http://www.haymarket.com/newsarticle.aspx?news=816

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 19:08

    that is what it seems to suggest, unfortunately I think that is such a long shot, unless there really are still some concerns. I noted they waited until after his GP2 test before deciding. It is very strange.

    I don't think anyone can be absolutely sure about his necks until he has done a few races. A long flight followed by three days of hard driving and another long flight at the other end is going to do things to his neck that can't be simulated. Then of course there is the question of what happens if he has a crash.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 19:10

    I just do not get how several wind tunnel calibrations can be out. I know the Brawn ironically had quite a bit of the Super Aguri design in it.

    The Brawn was the result of two or three different options run in 5 or 6 wind tunnels. The double diffuser came from Super Aguri

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 19:16

    The Brawn was the result of two or three different options run in 5 or 6 wind tunnels. The double diffuser came from Super Aguri

    of course the double diffuser was only part of the success of the Brawn.

  • me22/01/2010 at 19:18

    vimeo has also gone all html5. better player than youtube, still doesn't support embed codes:

    http://www.vimeo.com/8642592

    (click "switch to HTML5 player")

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 19:18

    I don't think anyone can be absolutely sure about his necks until he has done a few races. A long flight followed by three days of hard driving and another long flight at the other end is going to do things to his neck that can't be simulated. Then of course there is the question of what happens if he has a crash.

    are you giving me a glimmer of hope - I better get on with my voodoo doll manufacture. I was just wondering if they have had any regrets about Nico.

  • Steven Roy22/01/2010 at 19:27

    are you giving me a glimmer of hope - I better get on with my voodoo doll manufacture. I was just wondering if they have had any regrets about Nico.

    I think there must be a market for voodoo dolls

  • Rich22/01/2010 at 19:28

    I think there must be a market for voodoo dolls

    ones with a pin in the neck!

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 19:29

    Webber's on Question of Sport on BBC1!

  • lou22/01/2010 at 19:32

    He was pushed in the fact he felt unvalued by the team and Ross. That is so clear. Yes it was Jenson would made the decision to cut the umbilical cord.

    really? I disagree...

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 19:34

    Webber's on Question of Sport on BBC1!

    not available on iplayer :-(

  • RG22/01/2010 at 19:34

    not available on iplayer :-(

    Darn those licences.

  • lou22/01/2010 at 19:35

    Webber's on Question of Sport on BBC1!

    cant believe he got kubica, kovalainen and not kobyashi :)

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:35

    not available on iplayer :-(

    not even on the live BBC1 stream?

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:35

    not even on the live BBC1 stream?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/watchlive/

  • me22/01/2010 at 19:35

    not even on the live BBC1 stream?

    sport rights. expensive business.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 19:35

    cant believe he got kubica, kovalainen and not kobyashi :)

    Same!

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:36

    sport rights. expensive business.

    Ahhh, I see what you mean now

  • RG22/01/2010 at 19:36

    cant believe he got kubica, kovalainen and not kobyashi :)

    Easily missed out.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 19:36

    not even on the live BBC1 stream?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/watchlive/

    Ah I couldn't find it. Unfortunately it shows "Sorry, we can't show this programme for legal reasons, but you can watch it on your TV."

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 19:37

    Already had clips of Hamilton winning at Silverstone in 08 and Kimi winning at Spa in 09.

  • RG22/01/2010 at 19:37

    Ah I couldn't find it. Unfortunately it shows "Sorry, we can't show this programme for legal reasons, but you can watch it on your TV."

    What about that tvcatchup place?

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 19:37

    Mark got the question of who was finishing 2nd to Kimi in that race, thank god :P

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:40

    What about that tvcatchup place?

    ooh it works.

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 19:40

    What about that tvcatchup place?

    Good point. It wants me to sign up and I can't be bothered now I've missed 10 mins. Will do so later. Thanks.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:42

    Timoooooooo!

  • RG22/01/2010 at 19:42

    Aww, Mark Webber's in my good books.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 19:42

    RG - Mark got a question about Timo, and got it right :P

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 19:43

    Aww, Mark Webber's in my good books.

    Oh you were watching. Carry on :P

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 19:46

    Timoooooooo!

    Shouldn't that be Ruuuuuuuuubens? :P

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:47

    *facepalm*

    Everytime I watch TV...

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:47

    Shouldn't that be Ruuuuuuuuubens? :P

    But it was about Timo! :)

  • RG22/01/2010 at 19:48

    Shouldn't that be Ruuuuuuuuubens? :P

    Are you calling Timo, Rubens?

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 19:48

    Are you calling Timo, Rubens?

    No, that was just something I was expecting you to say :P

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 19:56

    So Phil Tufnell thinks Jenson Button is 50, interesting.

  • RG22/01/2010 at 19:56

    So Phil Tufnell thinks Jenson Button is 50, interesting.

    He's aged well.

  • lou22/01/2010 at 19:56

    Phil thinks jenson was born in the 1960s in London! Ehehehe

  • lou22/01/2010 at 20:14

    If anyone's up at 1am youtube are streaming the Hope For Haiti 2 hour concert thing tonight.

  • lou22/01/2010 at 20:14

    If anyone's up at 1am youtube are streaming the Hope For Haiti 2 hour concert thing tonight.

    i forgot the link...ooops.

    www.youtube.com/hopeforhaitinow.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 20:21

    If anyone's up at 1am youtube are streaming the Hope For Haiti 2 hour concert thing tonight.

    Aww, I wanted to watch that as well. :(

  • Alianora La Canta22/01/2010 at 20:42

    I've entered my five teams into the Fantasy Racers game this year and will join them all into Sidepodcast when the league is re-opened.

    LCM Dragons will once again be my flagship team, where I will be defending my title against my self-devised automated and semi-automated methods of team selection. It has taken the "unlimited changes" option.

    LCM Barato and Caro will once again represent the cheapest and dearest drivers on the market at any given time respectively. They will both use the "unlimited changes" option and can thus be classed as semi-automated.

    LCM Fire Lizards currently contains all the drivers I support, though if Fisi returns to the grid I may have a selection issue, for despite the fact that it's using the "restricted changes" option*, there isn't enough change left over to select any of the current drivers. If Fisi ends up in such a bad team that he gets valued at only 5.5m, I'd get away with it, but I'm not banking on it.

    I considered doing LCM Aléman again, but quickly worked out that the sum value of Germans on the grid was too high. So 2010 marks the debut for LCM Alfa, where all the driver surnames end in "a". This team also uses the "restricted changes" option.

    * - Restricted changes allows free movement until the lock-down point for the first weekend and also allows sacked/injured/non-competing drivers to be replaced.

  • Alianora La Canta22/01/2010 at 20:50

    Only just looking at this year's Fantasy Racers. Unlimited changes but £40m budget, or stuck with the same mob with £45m to spend?

    Surely, surely, everyone will go with the former rather than the latter option? {Comment #119}

    The latter works well if you're putting drivers you support or drivers connected by a specific, non-comparitive theme. Otherwise, the former option is better.

    I've put in 3 teams in the "unlimited changes" ruleset and 2 teams in the "restricted changes" ruleset. Having preferential status carry over from last year has proved useful (if you've had preferential status before through donation, I suggest you check if it's still there because if so, you will still have multiple teams).

  • RG22/01/2010 at 20:52

    I've entered my five teams into the Fantasy Racers game this year and will join them all into Sidepodcast when the league is re-opened.

    I need to think of a new team name. Quite frankly last year's name backfired.

  • Alianora La Canta22/01/2010 at 20:53

    You would have been screwed last year had you picked a sacked or injured driver! {Comment #122}

    If you'd picked a sacked or injured driver, you'd have been able to change it after the sacking/injury and use both the driver value and your spare change to get a new driver(s). However, it could only be done after said sacking/injury, which depending on the situation may not fully compensate for the exemption from a tactical viewpoint.

  • Alianora La Canta22/01/2010 at 21:03

    SPC represented 10% of the Fantasy Racers entries last year - it's my JOB to keep you happy.

    {Comment #214}

    Wowee - I didn't realise the proportion was so high. Thanks for being so accommodating and making Fantasy Sports such a nice place to pretend we can see the future :)

  • Alianora La Canta22/01/2010 at 21:04

    OK Right now, I'm Hyperventilating - Check the upper right hand corner of this document: http://image.g...01/22/SportF1Car2.pdf

    Would that be your data?

    YES :D {Comment #231}

    Excellent!

  • RG22/01/2010 at 21:05

    I need to think of a new team name. Quite frankly last year's name backfired.

    'Back to Back Rock' is in. A tribute to Fighting Talk, (which David Croft happens to be on tomorrow)

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 21:07

    I think I need a Fantasy Racers team that has drivers based on their position in the Castrol Rankings, just to prove that they don't work.

    Castrol Failings?

  • Alianora La Canta22/01/2010 at 21:09

    On a differnet note. KARTING tonight :D woop {Comment #282}

    Have fun, Jon!

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 21:09

    On a differnet note. KARTING tonight :D woop {Comment #282}

    Ooh interesting, where you racing tonight?

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 21:16

    Castrol Failings?

    :D

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 21:19

    I think I need a Fantasy Racers team that has drivers based on their position in the Castrol Rankings, just to prove that they don't work.

    Castrol Failings?

    Brilliant :-)

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 21:22

    Brilliant :-)

    I thought either that or Castrol No-Thankings.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 21:22

    I thought either that or Castrol No-Thankings.

    Or how about Castrol Absolutely Rank-ings

  • Alianora La Canta22/01/2010 at 21:25

    So Phil Tufnell thinks Jenson Button is 50, interesting. {Comment #405}

    And there we all were wondering how a 41-year-old is supposed to compete well in F1...

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 21:25

    Or how about Castrol Absolutely Rank-ings

    You're doing well to keep it clean. I expect my suggestion would go straight to moderation.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 21:25

    You're doing well to keep it clean. I expect my suggestion would go straight to moderation.

    :D

  • RG22/01/2010 at 21:26

    You're doing well to keep it clean. I expect my suggestion would go straight to moderation.

    I'm guessing you have the same mind as me. Say if I say Nick Heidfeld's German, would we be on the right lines?

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 21:27

    Or, just change Rankings to Ranklings, since that's what those drivers would be.

  • Danny22/01/2010 at 21:34

    I'm guessing you have the same mind as me. Say if I say Nick Heidfeld's German, would we be on the right lines?

    uhm......

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 21:35

    Scott did you ever get your xbox 360 sorted by the way?

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 21:41

    Scott did you ever get your xbox 360 sorted by the way?

    I STILL have to print off the label.

    ...

    ...

    ...yyyyup.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 21:41

    ...yyyyup.

    Boo :(

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 21:54

    Running slightly behind, yesterday's Big Pic is ace: http://www.f1minute.com/2010/01/22/a-fresh-coat/

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 21:54

    Running slightly behind, yesterday's Big Pic is ace: http://www.f1m...0/01/22/a-fresh-coat/

    :o!!

    Hello new wallpaper

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 22:05

    Hello new wallpaper

    :)

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 22:06

    Hello new wallpaper

    Although I have annoyingly contended myself with a possible alternative wallpaper. Bah!

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 22:18

    Although I have annoyingly contended myself with a possible alternative wallpaper. Bah!

    The alternative is this extremely fun moment I just had on Forza 3 at the Nordeschleife: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lukehmuse/4295700833/

    Of course, if it were real life, I would now be looking for the nearest toilet.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 22:19

    The alternative is this extremely fun moment I just had on Forza 3 at the Nordeschleife: http://www.fli...lukehmuse/4295700833/

    Oooooh.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 22:25

    I need some help if possible. I need to know if there's anywhere in Norwich that has video editing facilities that I'd be able to use. I need to get the footage from the karting off my video camera but the cable which I got for it doesn't seem to recognise it. Any help, big or small, would be appreciated. :)

  • lou22/01/2010 at 22:29

    I need some help if possible. I need to know if there's anywhere in Norwich that has video editing facilities that I'd be able to use. I need to get the footage from the karting off my video camera but the cable which I got for it doesn't seem to recognise it. Any help, big or small, would be appreciated. :)

    what make is your video recorder? maybe it's worth seeing if they have a forum and seeing if anyone knows how to download the video off of the camera onto your pc?

  • lou22/01/2010 at 22:30

    what make is your video recorder? maybe it's worth seeing if they have a forum and seeing if anyone knows how to download the video off of the camera onto your pc?

    and by video recorder... i mean video camera..

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 22:31

    what make is your video recorder? maybe it's worth seeing if they have a forum and seeing if anyone knows how to download the video off of the camera onto your pc?

    It's a JVC and it records using DV tapes. The cable needed is a 4 pin firewire cable. My laptop doesn't have a firewire socket so I had to get a 4 pin to USB cable, but it won't recognise the camera. Grrr.

  • lou22/01/2010 at 22:32

    It's a JVC and it records using DV tapes. The cable needed is a 4 pin firewire cable. My laptop doesn't have a firewire socket so I had to get a 4 pin to USB cable, but it won't recognise the camera. Grrr.

    riiight, well most of that went over my head... i'm no good at the video stuff... sorry.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 22:34

    riiight, well most of that went over my head... i'm no good at the video stuff... sorry.

    Oops, sorry :P

    Ah, I think I've found a page where you can download drivers for camcorders, including mine. Wonder if this'll work.

  • Jon Waldock22/01/2010 at 22:38

    It's a JVC and it records using DV tapes. The cable needed is a 4 pin firewire cable. My laptop doesn't have a firewire socket so I had to get a 4 pin to USB cable, but it won't recognise the camera. Grrr.

    I have that with the uni dv cameras, theres a usb slot but the computer wont recognise it. i have to use uni computers to download it

  • Jon Waldock22/01/2010 at 22:38

    Evening all

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 22:47

    Evening all

    Evening

  • lou22/01/2010 at 22:49

    Evening all

    hello

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 22:54

    Official US F1 Team Thank you all for your patience. The team is working very hard these days and we will have some exciting news to share! (think early next week...)

    Ooooooooooooooooooh.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 22:54

    Ooooooooooooooooooh.

    I was just about to post that as well :P

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 22:55

    I was just about to post that as well :P

    It has to be drivers. Surely.

    Or at least a car announcement!

    Maybe they have employed another anderson.

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 22:56

    It has to be drivers. Surely.

    Yup, I reckon so.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 23:08

    Time for me to head off. Night all!

  • lou22/01/2010 at 23:10

    Time for me to head off. Night all!

    night!

  • Scott Woodwiss22/01/2010 at 23:12

    Woah, I just saw something really freaky. I just watched the bit on the video where Jackie filmed me put my helmet on and I paused it at one point and I swear looking at my eyes and nose through the helmet, I looked a bit like Senna did.

    That's not being big headed or anything, just something I observed. Weird.

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 23:23

    22/01/2010 at 22:18:37#438 - Lukeh said: Although I have annoyingly contended myself with a possible alternative wallpaper. Bah!

    The alternative is this extremely fun moment I just had on Forza 3 at the Nordeschleife: http://www.fli...lukehmuse/4295700833/

    Of course, if it were real life, I would now be looking for the nearest toilet.

    Lukeh, In the days before wings on the car, you were supposed to have all four wheels off the ground just after the three crests on the rolling hills of the Nordeschleife's super long backstraight.... It meant that you where going fast enough.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 23:24

    Wow, Franck gets his name mentioned in The Sun!!

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/motorsport/2820089/Caught-up-in-kart-carnage.html

    They're going a bit over the top with the carnage thing, of course.

  • Lukeh22/01/2010 at 23:26

    Wow, Franck gets his name mentioned in The Sun!!

    If you are a Formula One team you race in Formula One.

    They make a good point.

    #nothere

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 23:27

    Official US F1 Team Thank you all for your patience. The team is working very hard these days and we will have some exciting news to share! (think early next week...)

    Ooooooooooooooooooh.

    Gotta be at least one driver. Hopefully both and hopefully a sponsor or two..

  • Jordan F122/01/2010 at 23:27

    22/01/2010 at 22:54:28#450 - Lukeh said: Official US F1 Team Thank you all for your patience. The team is working very hard these days and we will have some exciting news to share! (think early next week...)

    Ooooooooooooooooooh.

    Maybe it is to confirm that the virtual USF1 on Tailenders' www.crash.net site is far ahead of the real USF1 in that the virtual USF1 at least has some toasters it can ship out to fans of the races..... I could use some toast while I am watching the Grand Prix, you know....

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 23:29

    If you are a Formula One team you race in Formula One.

    Hahaha! I didn't read that far :)

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 23:32

    Wow, Franck gets his name mentioned in The Sun!!

    http://www.the...-in-kart-carnage.html

    They're going a bit over the top with the carnage thing, of course.

    Interesting article to find in The Sun.. surely mentions of FRenault, GT2, etc, will go over most readers heads? It goes over a lot of racing fans heads..

  • lou22/01/2010 at 23:40

    eeeeekkk! i swear i get more spiders in my room than anyone i know... O.O horrible things!

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 23:40

    I just bought a domain name. Or two.

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 23:41

    I just bought a domain name. Or two.

    OOOH!

  • startledbunny22/01/2010 at 23:41

    I just bought a domain name. Or two.

    interesting

  • Pat W22/01/2010 at 23:42

    OOOH!

    It says it could take 48hrs to become active though

  • Christine22/01/2010 at 23:42

    It says it could take 48hrs to become active though

    Ah yes. They usually are quicker than that.