Apparently it is Apple Day today, and that is not to do with the iPod people, but more to do with apples and orchards. Once again, I don't know how you are supposed to celebrate these things, but I think a good apple crumble is on the cards. Meanwhile, F1 related stuff:

  • Yesterday's F1 Minute from a year ago (did you follow that?) is really quite intriguing. On the right hand side of the F1 Minute homepage is a link to the show a year ago, and yesterday's featured the news that BMW should be proud of what they've achieved, and Bernie was arguing with Canada. Things change, huh? Oh maybe not.
  • Williams are once again being particularly vocal about their desire not to see 14 teams on the grid. More than anything, they say they are worried about the space, particularly in the Monaco pitlane. On that point, I agree, but is that really what they are protesting about?
  • Bruno Senna has been talking about his future again, and says he's in contact with all the new teams bar US F1. It's also rumoured that he will have a test drive with Renault as soon as testing is allowed again.

That's all for now, I reckon. We're halfway through the week - how's it going for you? As ever, I will see you in the comments.

1018 responses

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:07

    I love this from Grandprix.com

    Did you realise that an English driver, in a Mercedes-engined car bearing the number 22, beat a Brazilian to the World Championship by finishing in fifth place in Interlagos - for the second year running?

    Hell of a coincidence...

  • Jeremy20/10/2009 at 23:08

    It is Apple day! Tomorrow is Windows day. I hear Windows crumbles a lot. Will you be making Windows crumble? I'll have it with both custard and ice cream please. Lame, I know... :P

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:09

    Hell of a coincidence...

    He pinched that off Nobert!

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:12

    Can I just get this out of the way and then I'll shut up on the subject:

    27" Quad Core iMacs

    Multi Touch Magic Mouse

    Mac Mini's now with actual grunt

    And fresh MacBooks too

    After humoungous profits

    Right before Vista's Service Pack release

    GREAT! :lol:

    [Done now, thanks]

    #Apple

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:13

    Can I just get this out of the way and then I'll shut up on the subject:

    hehe. i had to stop myself too.

    i want the mini server and a imac.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:14

    i want the mini server and a imac.

    Am getting that mouse as soon as I return, if not at duty free

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:17

    It is Apple day! Tomorrow is Windows day. I hear Windows crumbles a lot. Will you be making Windows crumble? I'll have it with both custard and ice cream please. Lame, I know... :P

    There's nothing like an Apple product announcement to rain on Microsoft's parade. :D

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:18

    Just realised i can Download itunes and quicktime now :D

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:19

    Just realised i can Download itunes and quicktime now :D

    on linux??

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:19

    on linux??

    or not :(

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:20

    or not :(

    news to me if you can. would love to though.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:20

    Just realised i can Download itunes and quicktime now :D

    on linux??

    Out of interest Nick, why are you running Linux?

  • Alison20/10/2009 at 23:20

    Just realised i can Download itunes and quicktime now :D

    You can?

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:22

    Out of interest Nick, why are you running Linux?

    Windows update made my fonts go funny in chrome, then i tried it and made a mistake.

    I didnt listen to kathi so the only way out of it i could see was to delete windows.

    It isnt amazing, but i as I am getting better at it, it is getting better

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:23

    27" Quad Core iMacs

    Multi Touch Magic Mouse

    Mac Mini's now with actual grunt

    oooo man! Is this true?

  • lou20/10/2009 at 23:23

    Am off to get some sleep, the B&B we are staying at in Cambridge is meant to have wifi, but I wont hold my breath, so i suppose if you don't hear from me for a few days I'll be back in the comments by Saturday ;)

    night!! xx

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:23

    oooo man! Is this true?

    It must be, it's on apple.com :)

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:23

    Am off to get some sleep, the B&B we are staying at in Cambridge is meant to have wifi, but I wont hold my breath, so i suppose if you don't hear from me for a few days I'll be back in the comments by Saturday ;)

    night!! xx

    See ya Lou

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:23

    news to me if you can. would love to though.

    I think the only real way would be though wine

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:24

    Am off to get some sleep, the B&B we are staying at in Cambridge is meant to have wifi, but I wont hold my breath, so i suppose if you don't hear from me for a few days I'll be back in the comments by Saturday ;)

    night!! xx

    Have fun! Night!

  • Jon Waldock20/10/2009 at 23:24

    Bye lou

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:25

    It isnt amazing, but i as I am getting better at it, it is getting better

    You could always use a different strand couldn't you

    What did you go for, Ubuntu?

  • Steven Roy20/10/2009 at 23:26

    Night Lou

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:27

    You could always use a different strand couldn't you

    What did you go for, Ubuntu?

    I have Ubuntu 9.10 which isnt technicaly out properly yet i dont think.

    So far so good, i have firefox looking like chrome which was my first main concern, and tweetdeck works brilliantly.

    I had spotify working under wine for 10 mins or so, and the media player works great so its all i need so far really

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:31

    I had spotify working under wine for 10 mins or so, and the media player works great so its all i need so far really

    Welcome to the world of safer computing

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:32

    I love these new iMacs. Now I have to convince myself I need a core i5

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:32

    I love these new iMacs. Now I have to convince myself I need a core i5

    not i7?

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:33

    Welcome to the world of safer computing

    I havent dared drag the printer to try it whcih i should as i might have an eticket to print by this time next week!

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:33

    not i7?

    Yeah strange. It says core i5 on the website. I think that's the lower-end 4 core CPU?

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:34

    not i7?

    Well, it is nigh on £1800

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:34

    Yeah strange. It says core i5 on the website. I think that's the lower-end 4 core CPU?

    i7 is optional on the 27", i think.

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:34

    Booo still no blu-ray

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:34

    Yeah strange. It says core i5 on the website. I think that's the lower-end 4 core CPU?

    i7 is the 2.8GHz Quad option

  • Steven Roy20/10/2009 at 23:35

    Well, it is nigh on £1800

    Alwx specced out his ideal machine earlier. It cost a lot more than that

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:35

    Booo still no blu-ray

    Physical media is dead

    #M|F|C

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:35

    i7 is optional on the 27", i think.

    Oh it is too. Hmmm. That bumps the price way up. The one I want is $1000 more than the one I can afford. :-(

  • Steven Roy20/10/2009 at 23:35

    Alwx specced out his ideal machine earlier. It cost a lot more than that

    Alex

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:35

    Physical media is dead

    #M|F|C

    True enough

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:35

    Alwx specced out his ideal machine earlier. It cost a lot more than that

    Well if we're talking ideal, I'll have an 8 Core Mac Pro please

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:35

    Alwx specced out his ideal machine earlier. It cost a lot more than that

    Ooooo. Group buy!

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:36

    Well if we're talking ideal, I'll have an 8 Core Mac Pro please

    i think the imac is a better tbh.

  • Steven Roy20/10/2009 at 23:36

    Well if we're talking ideal, I'll have an 8 Core Mac Pro please

    His ended up well into 5 figures

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:37

    Well if we're talking ideal, I'll have an 8 Core Mac Pro please

    With 32GB of RAM

    Approaching 8 grand before we add a 30" monitor

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:37

    i think the imac is a better tbh.

    That 's the one I want. Love the screen. Has everything for skype right in the box.

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:37

    Oh it is too. Hmmm. That bumps the price way up. The one I want is $1000 more than the one I can afford. :-(

    OF course - you always pay a premium for the latest intel processor.

  • Alison20/10/2009 at 23:38

    His ended up well into 5 figures

    WHAAAAAT???

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:38

    OF course - you always pay a premium for the latest intel processor.

    But I want it noooowwwww!!!

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:39

    Physical media is dead

    #M|F|C

    Just because their are cars, it didnt stop people riding horses, and tv didnt kill the radio

    I think it will remain a soloution for at least another 10 years, maybe more

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:39

    I could just buy a new Macbook I guess.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:39

    His ended up well into 5 figures

    WHAAAAAT???

    But this a machine on which the Coen Brothers edited No Country For Old Men on!

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:40

    Just because their are cars, it didnt stop people riding horses, and tv didnt kill the radio

    blue ray is 3 years old. horses had been around for considerably more time.

  • Alison20/10/2009 at 23:40

    I could just buy a new Macbook I guess.

    If you don't need all the processing power and can make do with a lappy, why would the computer be so much?

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:41

    I could just buy a new Macbook I guess.

    Upgrade desktop in New Year or wait for rumours to [maybe] become fact re: Mac Tablet Netbook Thingy?

    Ohh, it'll be tough

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:41

    WHAAAAAT???

    That did include two 30" cinema displays at over £1k each and quite a bit of software.

  • Alison20/10/2009 at 23:42

    blue ray is 3 years old. horses had been around for considerably more time.

    Yeah. I've never bought anything in bluray. I'm just gonna skip it as a technology I've decided. I did DVDs and I'll do digital. Bluray does nothing for me particularly.....

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:42

    Booo still no blu-ray

    Blu-ray? It's a bag of hurt.

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:42

    Upgrade desktop in New Year or wait for rumours to [maybe] become fact re: Mac Tablet Netbook Thingy?

    Hmmm. Im not interested in a tablet - I want an ebook reader.

    Work already gives me a laptop (HP).

    I think I need CPU power for video encoding.

    Yes - I really need 27" core i7 iMac.

    Shame about that mortgage.

  • Steven Roy20/10/2009 at 23:42

    I tried to post the full spec of his machine but the doohickey refuses to accept the comment

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:43

    Yeah. I've never bought anything in bluray. I'm just gonna skip it as a technology I've decided. I did DVDs and I'll do digital. Bluray does nothing for me particularly.....

    When you can buy HD content on places like iTunes, why would you need a disk to lose or damage?

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:43

    I tried to post the full spec of his machine but the doohickey refuses to accept the comment

    Did it say "don't be ridiculous"?

  • Steven Roy20/10/2009 at 23:44

    WHAAAAAT???

    Look, if a things worth doing its worth doing right. Right?

    Two 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon

    32GB (8×4GB)

    Mac Pro RAID Card

    1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s

    1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s

    1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s

    1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s

    4x NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB

    Two 18x SuperDrives

    Apple Cinema HD Display (30? flat panel)

    Apple Cinema HD Display (30? flat panel)

    Apple Magic Mouse

    Apple Wireless Keyboard (British) and User’s Guide (English)

    AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi Card with 802.11n

    Quad-channel 4Gb Fibre Channel PCI Express card

    iWork ‘09 preinstalled

    Logic Express preinstalled

    Final Cut Express preinstalled

    Aperture preinstalled

    FileMaker Pro 10 preinstalled

    Xsan 2.2 – Single License

    Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter

    £14,147.98 incl. VAT

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:44

    Did it say "don't be ridiculous"?

    It probably did. Maxing out the spec isn't something anyone does with the intention of ordering.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:44

    Hmmm. Im not interested in a tablet - I want an ebook reader

    Maybe it'll be one too

    Shame about that mortgage.

    Yeah, they really get in the way

  • Steven Roy20/10/2009 at 23:44

    I tried to post the full spec of his machine but the doohickey refuses to accept the comment

    Ye olde comments beats the doohickey.. BOO

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:44

    THe hardware RAID card is also quite expensive.

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:44

    £14,147.98 incl. VAT

    you're spending that much money, why skimp on software and setting for the express versions of logic and fcp?

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:45

    Ye olde comments beats the doohickey.. BOO

    i oughta check that out.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:45

    Look, if a things worth doing its worth doing right. Right?

    If it were a car it'd have 24" gold rims and a stereo to make shop windows shake!

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:46

    THe hardware RAID card is also quite expensive.

    As are 8GB RAM chips

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:46

    blue ray is 3 years old. horses had been around for considerably more time.

    True, i am not saying Blu ray, but I cant see physical media in general becoming dead

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:46

    you're spending that much money, why skimp on software and settle for the express versions of logic and fcp?

    also, he's bought a "Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter". which plugs into nothing on his life.

    neither end. it'll just be a loose cable?

  • Alison20/10/2009 at 23:47

    Eurgh. I hate computers, they hate me! I just want them to do as they're told....

  • Steven Roy20/10/2009 at 23:47

    i oughta check that out.

    I tried cutting all sorts of bits out of the comment. I started with a quote of Alison's WHAAAAT comment. I removed the quote then all the residual info other than the spec but it kept saying could not post comment

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:47

    also, he's bought a "Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter". which plugs into nothing on his life.

    *list.

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:47

    also, he's bought a "Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter". which plugs into nothing on his life.

    neither end. it'll just be a loose cable?

    You need that for the second Cinema display I think.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:48

    also, he's bought a "Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter". which plugs into nothing on his life.

    *list.

    I liked the first version :lol:

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:48

    As are 8GB RAM chips

    Especially when purchased from Apple.

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:48

    also, he's bought a "Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter". which plugs into nothing on his life.

    Isn't that to drive the two 30" cinema displays?

  • Alison20/10/2009 at 23:48

    True, i am not saying Blu ray, but I cant see physical media in general becoming dead

    Not for a flipping long time though!! I still know people who use cassette tapes......

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:49

    Especially when purchased from Apple.

    Very True

    Which of his 4 x 1TB hard drives will store his Qik videos?

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:50

    Hold on. Did anybody mention the new "Nook"?

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:50

    You need that for the second Cinema display I think.

    into a mac pro? does it have display port yet?

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:50

    Not for a flipping long time though!! I still know people who use cassette tapes......

    I gave up trying to teach my mum that video's werre like operating cassettes, just with added pictures

    Then my neice bought her "one of those VDV players" which she can't use either

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:51

    into a mac pro? does it have display port yet?

    Who knows. Last one I had was a dual G5

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:51

    Not for a flipping long time though!! I still know people who use cassette tapes......

    i agree. to us though physical media is dead.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:52

    into a mac pro? does it have display port yet?

    Who knows. Last one I had was a dual G5

    Mini DisplayPort and dual-link DVI video output

  • Paul20/10/2009 at 23:53

    #MFC

    ebook reader running android: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ebooks/

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:53

    Who knows. Last one I had was a dual G5

    alex can't decode the meaning of life with only one screen.

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:53

    Then my neice bought her "one of those VDV players" which she can't use either

    And you want everyone to use something like itunes!

    I just cant see it happening untill broadband becomes universally available, and several generations are used to using it

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:53

    Mini DisplayPort and dual-link DVI video output

    when did that happen?

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:54

    i agree. to us though physical media is dead.

    I would stii rather buy games on blu ray though unless they were significantly cheaper digitally

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:54

    I just cant see it happening untill broadband becomes universally available, and several generations are used to using it

    also agree. but people who can't figure a vcr aren't really of interest to people who make podcasts everyday.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:54

    And you want everyone to use something like itunes!

    I can see her eyes glaze over when I show her the shop my niece works at on Google Earth from my phone

    I just cant see it happening untill broadband becomes universally available, and several generations are used to using it

    Oh Finland, we love you

  • Alison20/10/2009 at 23:54

    I just cant see it happening untill broadband becomes universally available, and several generations are used to using it

    We'll get there. I think reliability of technology needs to improve first though. Can you imagine getting a blue screen of death on your entire life.....

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:55

    I would stii rather buy games on blu ray though unless they were significantly cheaper digitally

    films though i agree.

    Music i dont have a problem with diditally as long as it is free :P

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:55

    when did that happen?

    Beginning of the year - Mac Pro Early 2009.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:55

    Mini DisplayPort and dual-link DVI video output

    when did that happen?

    Last Release March 03, 2009

    Days Since Update 232 (Avg = 236)

    http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac_Pro

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:56

    Last Release March 03, 2009

    Days Since Update 232 (Avg = 236)

    http://buyersg...acrumors.com/#Mac_Pro

    i'm out of touch :(

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:57

    i'm out of touch :(

    Best wait

    Recommendation: Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:57

    Best wait

    Recommendation: Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle

    like i can afford one of those!

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:57

    also agree. but people who can't figure a vcr aren't really of interest to people who make podcasts everyday.

    maybe now, but perhaps not in te future.

    I think the biggest obsticle at the moment is the prevalence of machines which are designed to do everything.

    people predicted games consoles would die out in the 90's as everyone got PC's, but they havent.

    I think the era of the machine which does it all will draw to a close, and most people will interact with the web and computors designed to tonly do specfic tasks

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:58

    like i can afford one of those!

    And 6 core models may only be a stop gap if released soon!

  • Alison20/10/2009 at 23:58

    maybe now, but perhaps not in te future.

    They'll be dead when the "future" comes. Presumably when we get old, we'll still be able to use the VCR........

  • Andy Taylor20/10/2009 at 23:58

    also agree. but people who can't figure a vcr aren't really of interest to people who make podcasts everyday.

    What about the "how to operate your VCR" podcast?

  • Nick20/10/2009 at 23:59

    Sorry i appear to be typing like a fool, i am blaming it on the fact i am not used to typing in either linux or firefox :P

  • me20/10/2009 at 23:59

    What about the "how to operate your VCR" podcast?

    if you can figure itunes, you don't need to know.

  • Bassano Clapper20/10/2009 at 23:59

    What about the "how to operate your VCR" podcast?

    I should buy the website: BillyBigButtons.com

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:00

    if you can figure itunes, you don't need to know.

    Can anyone figure itunes?

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:04

    Christine is going to have lots for the next MFC. B&N not only have the Nook, but ereader software for the iphone, and free books too.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:05

    Christine is going to have lots for the next MFC. B&N not only have the Nook, but ereader software for the iphone, and free books too.

    Screen's too small to be particularly practical. Alright for a quick reference but you won't be throwing your books out now will you ;)

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 00:05

    if you can figure itunes, you don't need to know.

    What if, like many people I speak to at work, your son/daughter "does all that for me"?

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:06

    Screen's too small to be particularly practical. Alright for a quick reference but you won't be throwing your books out now will you ;)

    No, I love my books. I did read one on a palm a few years ago though.

    I just like the idea of carrying lots of books around with me. Just like my music :-)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:07

    I posted this the other day bit i dont know if anyone picked up on it...

    Verizons android attack on the iphone http://www.androidguys.com/2009/10/17/verizon-takes-iphone-directly-on-with-droid-does-campaign-video/

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:08

    What if, like many people I speak to at work, your son/daughter "does all that for me"?

    they keep buying physical media. they aren't listening to podcasts surely?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:09

    they keep buying physical media. they aren't listening to podcasts surely?

    Awww Mr C! Not everything in life is podcast related :D

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:10

    What if, like many people I speak to at work, your son/daughter "does all that for me"?

    they keep buying physical media. they aren't listening to podcasts surely?

    generally yes, but my dad still cant use the vcr but does listen to podcasts

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 00:10

    they keep buying physical media. they aren't listening to podcasts surely?

    You'd be surprised.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:10

    they keep buying physical media. they aren't listening to podcasts surely?

    Awww Mr C! Not everything in life is podcast related :D

    they might be looking at the F1 big picture for example ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:10

    Awww Mr C! Not everything in life is podcast related :D

    i'm not for one second suggesting it is.

    for #mfc, it's a pretty good benchmark though, no?

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:11

    they keep buying physical media. they aren't listening to podcasts surely?

    You'd be surprised.

    Their Son/Daughter converts them to Video and Audio cassettes :lol:

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:11

    You'd be surprised.

    Tbh it's quite easy to listen to podcasts though, especially if someone else sets it up for you. They just appear all my themselves!

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:12

    You'd be surprised.

    my logic (and it may be flawed):

    - ooh itunes

    - ooh i can listen to and buy music

    - ooh i can buy and rent movies

    - ooh and download free podcasts (if they can ever find them hidden in itunes 9)

    if you get that far. why would you then go buy a dvd?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:13

    for #mfc, it's a pretty good benchmark though, no?

    maybe, but in my experience the people who listen to podcasts have an ipod.

    People who have ipods generaly listen to music.

    I consider my self to be fairly MFC but i dont have an ipod and this and 5live are the only podcasts i listen to

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:13

    if you get that far. why would you then go buy a dvd?

    because most people like to touch things

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:13

    People who have ipods generaly listen to music.

    and therefore itunes... which lets you buy and rent tv.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:13

    because most people like to touch things

    but not a podcast?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:14

    Using iTunes to find and listen to free things/ organise your stuffs is not the same as being prepared to use it to actually pay for stuff.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:14

    if you get that far. why would you then go buy a dvd?

    you can lend it to people, you can wrap it up and give it to someone as a present, and you can put it on a shelf to show it off if its your thing...

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 00:14

    I consider my self to be fairly MFC but i dont have an ipod and this and 5live are the only podcasts i listen to

    I don't have an ipod but I listen to stacks of podcast while I am on my computer

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:14

    but not a podcast?

    But that's free, it doesn't matter about touching :P

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:14

    Using iTunes to find and listen to free things/ organise your stuffs is not the same as being prepared to use it to actually pay for stuff.

    all the paid stuff is in your face. the free stuff is buried.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:14

    but not a podcast?

    i use itunes for the following reasons...

    1) it has all my music on, makes it alot easier to choose what i want to listen to (for ipod users you can add sync-ing to this)

    2) podcasts

    3) the occational song download.

    this is most people.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:15

    you can lend it to people, you can wrap it up and give it to someone as a present, and you can put it on a shelf to show it off if its your thing...

    i guess. none of that makes any sense to me, but fair enough.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:15

    and therefore itunes... which lets you buy and rent tv.

    true, but do people who dont have itunes know that? I didnt untill i came here, i have never seen it advertised either online or on tv

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:15

    because most people like to touch things

    I hit play on the remote or touchscreen

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:15

    I hit play on the remote or touchscreen

    :)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:15

    you can lend it to people, you can wrap it up and give it to someone as a present, and you can put it on a shelf to show it off if its your thing...

    i'd be quite disapointed if someone gave me a card with the code to download a movie that they'd picked, as apposed to an actual dvd

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:16

    all the paid stuff is in your face. the free stuff is buried.

    I just have my own usage to go on. I'm not technologically backward or particularly attached to touching stuff or whatever but the only film I ever rented on itunes was when we watched that nascar film.....

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:16

    ..and you can put it on a shelf to show it off if its your thing...

    Shelves already too full, more external HDD's for Xmas please

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:16

    true, but do people who dont have itunes know that? I didnt untill i came here, i have never seen it advertised either online or on tv

    don't know. i spoke to someone yesterday who claimed they'd just rented 5 films from blockbuster.

    i was staggered they were still in business.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:16

    i'd be quite disapointed if someone gave me a card with the code to download a movie that they'd picked, as apposed to an actual dvd

    I agree, it isnt very personal

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:16

    i'd be quite disapointed if someone gave me a card with the code to download a movie that they'd picked, as apposed to an actual dvd

    iTunes voucher?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:17

    i was staggered they were still in business.

    hehe i use them all the time, its easy and convenient!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:17

    I agree, it isnt very personal

    i dont mind vouchers, itunes vouchers are nice too, but i'd much prefer something tangible

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:17

    i was staggered they were still in business.

    Hehehe are Side pod towers made of ivory :P

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:17

    i'd be quite disapointed if someone gave me a card with the code to download a movie that they'd picked, as apposed to an actual dvd

    itunes vouchers let you pick a movie you actually want to see. rather than something someone else insists you watch.

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:17

    i was staggered they were still in business.

    Yes, but you are living 18 months ahead of most people

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:17

    iTunes voucher?

    i get them too, but my point is, given the choice between "here is the code to download a movie" and "here is a movie wrapped up all nice"

    most people are going to pick hte latter

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:17

    iTunes voucher?

    thats a bit like giving someone cash.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 00:18

    Yes, but you are living 18 months ahead of most people

    I knew sidepodtime was weird but..........

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:18

    i get them too, but my point is, given the choice between "here is the code to download a movie" and "here is a movie wrapped up all nice"

    I stoppped buying movies for most folk after someone said Fargo was crap

    Their loss ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:18

    itunes vouchers let you pick a movie you actually want to see. rather than something someone else insists you watch.

    But often people don't know what's good for them.... Plus that makes it even less personal. Isn't it nice if someone's picked something out for you specially?

    They'd probably choose something you wouldn't choose yourself but it could broaden your horizons.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:18

    Yes, but you are living 18 months ahead of most people

    completely agree. last time we went to blockbuster we bought coke and ben and jerrys.

    and that was months and months ago.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:19

    itunes vouchers let you pick a movie you actually want to see. rather than something someone else insists you watch.

    yup, but i'd much rather a dvd.

    you cant just pop round to your mates with a laptop and faff about hooking it up to their tv, its much easier to pick up a dvd from the shelf and shove it n teh dvd player

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:19

    I knew sidepodtime was weird but..........

    It's true. Sometimes he puts his hand pack through the portal and waves at us.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:19

    Isn't it nice if someone's picked something out for you specially?

    lord no. hate presents.

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:19

    completely agree. last time we went to blockbuster we bought coke and ben and jerrys.

    And you were overcharged, what do they think they are, a cinema?

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:20

    lord no. hate presents.

    I feel a special kinship. :D

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:20

    completely agree. last time we went to blockbuster we bought coke and ben and jerrys.

    And you were overcharged, what do they think they are, a cinema?

    yeah, why didnt you go to the supermarket?

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:20

    And you were overcharged, what do they think they are, a cinema?

    probably, but we were hungry and everything else was shut.

    had no interest in their films though.

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:20

    you cant just pop round to your mates with a laptop and faff about hooking it up to their tv, its much easier to pick up a dvd from the shelf and shove it n teh dvd player

    I bring my portable hard drive, it's smaller than a DVD case

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:20

    lord no. hate presents.

    Well erm I'm not sure how to respond to that.... What if it's something you'd really like?

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:20

    I feel a special kinship. :D

    ;)

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:21

    lord no. hate presents.

    My family = no taste

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:21

    completely agree. last time we went to blockbuster we bought coke and ben and jerrys.

    you cant do that on itunes (yet!)

    But often people don't know what's good for them.... Plus that makes it even less personal. Isn't it nice if someone's picked something out for you specially?

    I agree, i also supect 30-40 percent of the dvd market is people giving them as gifts

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:21

    lord no. hate presents.

    i love it, even though half the time they've picked them off a list they've asked me to make. would much rather someone buy me something than a voucher (depending on the voucher and price ;))

  • Daniel21/10/2009 at 00:21

    I love this from Grandprix.com

    Did you realise that an English driver, in a Mercedes-engined car bearing the number 22, beat a Brazilian to the World Championship by finishing in fifth place in Interlagos – for the second year running?

    Hell of a coincidence…

    That is very, very odd!

    On another note, have I stumbled into a pc chat room ? ;-)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:22

    Well erm I'm not sure how to respond to that.... What if it's something you'd really like?

    he'll download it ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:22

    Well erm I'm not sure how to respond to that.... What if it's something you'd really like?

    if i wanted something, wouldn't i just buy it? why would i sit around hoping someone would buy exactly what i always wanted?

    what are the chances?

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:22

    I bring my portable hard drive, it's smaller than a DVD case

    Yup. Actually, my brother has a small disk based media player that's easy to carry around with all your movies loaded up

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:22

    I bring my portable hard drive, it's smaller than a DVD case

    they plug into tv's?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:22

    lord no. hate presents.

    I love buying presents, there is a special art to matching the person with the gift. much better than shopping for myself which is more of a chore

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:22

    I agree, i also supect 30-40 percent of the dvd market is people giving them as gifts

    And how many of those are unwrapped and recycled as presents for someones else?

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:22

    he'll download it ;)

    totally.

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:22

    On another note, have I stumbled into a pc chat room ? ;-)

    Well, it was Apple a little while ago

    No swearing here please ;)

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:23

    they plug into tv's?

    Yep, they do.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:23

    And how many of those are unwrapped and recycled as presents for someones else?

    People actually do that? I'd only really do it with duplicates if I was too awkward to tell the person I didn't want it.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:23

    I love buying presents, there is a special art to matching the person with the gift. much better than shopping for myself which is more of a chore

    i guarantee you cannot match a gift to me (unless you happen to fancy donating a 27" imac).

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:23

    And how many of those are unwrapped and recycled as presents for someones else?

    possibly but a sale is a sale, it doesnt matter what happens to it once it leaves the shop.

    I would much rather recive a book i dont like than a book voucher, same applies to films

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:23

    totally.

    I have concerns for your soul

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:23

    I love buying presents, there is a special art to matching the person with the gift. much better than shopping for myself which is more of a chore

    agreed, have done amazingly for the last year with birthday and christmas presents for my other half.

    it dosent need to be at all expensive, just well thought out/mean something

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:24

    i guarantee you cannot match a gift to me (unless you happen to fancy donating a 27" imac).

    hehe if i met you i bet i could work something out :P

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:24

    they plug into tv's?

    My media player does or I plug it into my mates media player which isn't the same brand as mine either

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:24

    i guarantee you cannot match a gift to me (unless you happen to fancy donating a 27" imac).

    bet i can....

    umm....

    itunes voucher ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:24

    I have concerns for your soul

    and christine's?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:25

    itunes voucher ;)

    That isnt a present thats just formatted cash!

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:25

    itunes voucher ;)

    hmm. okay, i would appreciate that. so you win.

    however... that's just giving someone money :)

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:25

    My media player does or I plug it into my mates media player which isn't the same brand as mine either

    BluRay equivalent 1080P quality - £70

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-1080P-Media-Player/dp/B001ILFDCK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1256084670&sr=8-1

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:25

    I would much rather recive a book i dont like than a book voucher, same applies to films

    :D You know what, my opinion of you is improving. Only a little bit mind.....

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:25

    That isnt a present thats just formatted cash!

    he specified gift not present ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:25

    hehe if i met you i bet i could work something out :P

    fine. yeah, probably daft thing to say. i have never knowingly refused guinness for example.

    can i take that comment back?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:26

    however... that's just giving someone money :)

    mwaha, winner.

    i think you are part of a very very very small population

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:26

    :D You know what, my opinion of you is improving. Only a little bit mind.....

    :P

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:26

    i think you are part of a very very very small population

    possibly. but i met christine.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:26

    can i take that comment back?

    hehe yes, but pints arent presents either!

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:27

    fine. yeah, probably daft thing to say. i have never knowingly refused guinness for example.

    A Darn Lie! :D

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:27

    possibly. but i met christine.

    this is very true :)

  • Daniel21/10/2009 at 00:27

    I don’t have an ipod but I listen to stacks of podcast while I am on my computer

    I do the opposite and listen to them on the train to London. I get to look at the wonderful Kentish countryside whilst listening to Mrs C's dulcit tones, hehe. I even have the sesame street podcast.. rather embarrasingly.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:27

    A Darn Lie! :D

    wasn't i banned from having more?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:27

    and christine's?

    I guess so :P

    The two of you deserve each other.....

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:28

    hehe yes, but pints arent presents either!

    Anyone is welcome to buy me a pint of giuinness for christmas

    In fact, I get quite a few on my birthday every year

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:28

    wasn't i banned from having more?

    Its always bad when that happens!

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:28

    The two of you deserve each other.....

    you say that like it's a bad thing.

    we're happy, we don't judge you. what's the problem?

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:29

    wasn't i banned from having more?

    But you have free will, you chose to comply ;)

    You DID refuse

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:29

    I do the opposite and listen to them on the train to London. I get to look at the wonderful Kentish countryside whilst listening to Mrs C's dulcit tones, hehe. I even have the sesame street podcast.. rather embarrasingly.

    I'm erm not gonna be in the C's good books if I tell them sometimes I burn them to CD to listen to in the car........

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:29

    you say that like it's a bad thing.

    I don't. Not at all. I think it's really cute :P

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:29

    You DID refuse

    damnit. can i make it up to you?

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:29

    we're happy, we don't judge you. what's the problem?

    I'm with you brother, digital will be dead in 10 years, Quantum computing is not far

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:30

    I'm erm not gonna be in the C's good books if I tell them sometimes I burn them to CD to listen to in the car........

    hehe. i don't object.

    i don't understand it at all. and it seems remarkably wasteful, but if it works for you.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:30

    I don't. Not at all. I think it's really cute :P

    ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:30

    Quantum computing is not far

    i think it'll be in an imac first!

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:30

    damnit. can i make it up to you?

    Of course

    I also accept, Get Out of Naughty Step Free Cards

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:30

    I'm erm not gonna be in the C's good books if I tell them sometimes I burn them to CD to listen to in the car........

    i take it your car dosent have a aux input then? ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:30

    I'm erm not gonna be in the C's good books if I tell them sometimes I burn them to CD to listen to in the car........

    I will admit thinking that it would be convenient if i could record sidepodcast to cassette the other day so i could listen to an aside on a long car journey....

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:31

    I also accept, Get Out of Naughty Step Free Cards

    if only i had one to spare.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:31

    i don't understand it at all. and it seems remarkably wasteful, but if it works for you.

    Noooooo it's the one rewritable podcast CD. That would be excessively wasteful otherwise.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:31

    damnit. can i make it up to you?

    You need to come sidepodpubbing next time ;)

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:31

    if only i had one to spare.

    No, you definitely need to keep hold of yours ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:31

    Noooooo it's the one rewritable podcast CD. That would be excessively wasteful otherwise.

    ahh. doesn't it take aaaages?

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:32

    You need to come sidepodpubbing next time ;)

    before xmas.

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:32

    I am trying to catch up to the Cs.

    I still have a TV, but just because we don't have any decent TV show downloading here in Oz.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:33

    before xmas.

    awesome, i think we did mention something about next month, but no firm plans last time...

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:33

    I still have a TV, but just because we don't have any decent TV show downloading here in Oz.

    that is poor of apple. disappointing given how long we've had that option.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:34

    ahh. doesn't it take aaaages?

    About the same time it takes me to cook my tea so it's not a problem at all. I only do it every couple of weeks. I do listen to things on my computer too. I spend a lot of time driving though. I can't stand those FM radio ipod transmitter thingies.

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:34

    that is poor of apple. disappointing given how long we've had that option.

    Its mainly that the good shows take so long to get here. I suspect its mainly to do with what the TV stations allow on itunes

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:34

    I still have a TV, but just because we don't have any decent TV show downloading here in Oz.

    Neighbours, :P

    There are some though, The Hollowmen, The Gruen Factor, err... stand up australia?

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:34

    I spend a lot of time driving though. I can't stand those FM radio ipod transmitter thingies.

    i just use headphones, but that is soooo a different argument :P

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:34

    There are some though, The Hollowmen, The Gruen Factor, err... stand up australia?

    oops i thought you meant shows on tv, not neccecarily for download ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:35

    i just use headphones, but that is soooo a different argument :P

    :lol:

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:35

    i just use headphones, but that is soooo a different argument :P

    It's dangerous for a start!

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:35

    Neighbours, :P

    you can't beat dr. karl singing about gas safety.

    fact.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:35

    i just use headphones, but that is soooo a different argument :P

    It's dangerous for a start!

    and drive barefoot...

    *runs*

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:36

    Neighbours, :P

    I've never watched it. Ever.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:36

    and drive barefoot...

    I don't care about that :P

    I drive in ballet pumps usually. They're really floppy, I doubt there's more support than being barefoot.

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:37

    i just use headphones, but that is soooo a different argument :P

    It's dangerous for a start!

    I did this one with him before

    [wags finger again at Mr C ;)]

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:37

    I use one of thos car FM thingys. They are great if you get the right one, and you can find a free station. That may be more of a problem in the UK

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:37

    I drive in ballet pumps usually.

    i have no idea what they are?

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:37

    I use one of thos car FM thingys. They are great if you get the right one, and you can find a free station. That may be more of a problem in the UK

    Nigh on impossible in london

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 00:37

    It's dangerous for a start!

    That's the other argument we hav had before

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:37

    i have no idea what they are?

    like racing boots but pink and without the rubber sole

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:37

    i have no idea what they are?

    maybe she does ballet?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:38

    i have no idea what they are?

    Errrrm very thin floppy shoes. Resemble shoes a ballet dancer might wear. Sort of.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 00:38

    I drive in ballet pumps usually. They're really floppy, I doubt there's more support than being barefoot.

    I really wish I had a witty reply to that

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:38

    maybe she does ballet?

    Nooo, if I were a ballet dancer I'd have ballet slippers with the funny ribbon laces. These are just slip on.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:39

    like racing boots but pink and without the rubber sole

    ahh, like eddie's?

    i may need a pic.

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:39

    i may need a pic.

    I'd send one on the post if that worked these days

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:40

    Neighbours, :P

    I've never watched it. Ever.

    Ive probably asked you before, but id you watch the hollowmen and are there any plans for a new series? google deosnt seem to know...

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:40

    I'd send one on the post if that worked these days

    answers on a post card.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:40

    I'd send one on the post if that worked these days

    You just wanted an excuse to moan about that? :P

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:40

    changing the subject... what the heck?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/diapoa-640-jpg

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:41

    Nooo, if I were a ballet dancer I'd have ballet slippers with the funny ribbon laces. These are just slip on.

    so much ballet related footwear...

    glad i dont have to worry about such things!

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:41

    Ive probably asked you before, but id you watch the hollowmen and are there any plans for a new series? google deosnt seem to know...

    I did, and I don't know. I suspect not, as it has been a while.

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 00:42

    That's the other argument we hav had before

    I don't have a radio, so not much choice. I also cycle wearing headphones, but that's mainly on the Redways.

    The important thing is to be aware of your surroundings and to compensate for the lack of audio input.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:43

    The important thing is to be aware of your surroundings and to compensate for the lack of audio input.

    agreed.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:44

    I did, and I don't know. I suspect not, as it has been a while.

    ah, thats a shame, i have found a clip they did for the ABC's funding requests http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/03/the-hollowmen-explains-abc-funding.html ...which is better than nothing. I loved that show though!

  • Bassano Clapper21/10/2009 at 00:45

    Anyway, far past my bedtime

    G'night folks

    [switches on non-physical media player and sets tv timer]

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:45

    ah, thats a shame, i have found a clip they did for the ABC's funding requests http://www.tvt...ains-abc-funding.html ...which is better than nothing. I loved that show though!

    They are a funny crew

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 00:45

    Right, bed time for me. My homework for todays lecture is......find out what the different flag signals mean....and the lectures going to be about? Marshall communication and observers....

    I love my course :D

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:45

    night jon and bassano.

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 00:45

    agreed.

    It's the same for pedestrians - the mayor of New York was spouting about banning iPods some time ago because people were walking into traffic. In my opinion, that's just Darwin in action.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:45

    Anyway, far past my bedtime

    Night!

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:46

    night, sleepy people

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:46

    Right, bed time for me. My homework for todays lecture is......find out what the different flag signals mean....and the lectures going to be about? Marshall communication and observers....

    Dont forget a white flag means "we surrender to FOTA"

    Night!

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 00:46

    TIme for me to go too, although I may be too excited to sleep.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 00:46

    Heh, I think it's different being out in the open air on foot or on a bike. You are by default more aware of your surroundings.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 00:47

    Night all those who are leaving

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:47

    TIme for me to go too, although I may be too excited to sleep.

    playtime tomorrow?

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 00:47

    It's the same for pedestrians - the mayor of New York was spouting about banning iPods some time ago because people were walking into traffic. In my opinion, that's just Darwin in action.

    Anyone who walks in front of a bus shoulf get a Darwin award

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:48

    TIme for me to go too, although I may be too excited to sleep.

    Night!

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:52

    "It is just so hard to talk to you MediaTemple and even though you make all sorts of lofty plans and claims, hardly any of them ever work out the way you plan."

    http://jessicasideways.com/blog/1522-a-dear-john-letter-to-mediatemple/

    hehe!

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:52

    http://jessica...etter-to-mediatemple/

    ooh. bad language in that post. soz.

    hadn't finished reading.

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:52

    hehe!

    ;-)

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:55

    What do mediatemple provide? Are they just an ISP, or do they host serves etc for you?

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:56

    What do mediatemple provide? Are they just an ISP, or do they host serves etc for you?

    just web hosting. and only for spc.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 00:56

    "It is just so hard to talk to you MediaTemple and even though you make all sorts of lofty plans and claims, hardly any of them ever work out the way you plan."

    http://jessica...etter-to-mediatemple/

    hehe!

    So it's not just you then

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 00:57

    just web hosting. and only for spc.

    Cripes - can't be that hard. Do they give you a LAMP stack, or what?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 00:57

    just web hosting. and only for spc.

    will the be hosting the new homepage?

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:57

    So it's not just you then

    seems that way.

    we have to stay put for a short while longer, because they are the benchmark of poor performance, and if we can make the site fast here. we can make it fast anywhere.

    we'll move soon after the new one goes live.

  • me21/10/2009 at 00:59

    will the be hosting the new homepage?

    i would say until january.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:00

    i would say until january.

    hehe hows the new homepage coming along?

    will it be up by then?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:00

    will it be up by then?

    oops, i should read properly!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:01

    will it be up by then?

    Nick! Don't taunt Mr C with the mountain of work he still has to do....

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:02

    Nick! Don't taunt Mr C with the mountain of work he still has to do....

    hehe. i gotta stop commenting. i just lost 45mins of development time with interesting conversations about the future. gah.

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:02

    Nick! Don't taunt Mr C with the mountain of work he still has to do....

    It's OK. He's 18 months ahead. He already knows what's done.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:03

    hehe. i gotta stop commenting. i just lost 45mins of development time with interesting conversations about the future. gah.

    sorry mrc! i didnt mean it that way, plus a 45 miniute break will re invigorate the mind!

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:03

    It's OK. He's 18 months ahead. He already knows what's done.

    :D

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:06

    I am currently writing a to-do list for the rest of the year. So far I think I have about 3 years worth of work listed. Gulp!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:07

    sorry mrc! i didnt mean it that way, plus a 45 miniute break will re invigorate the mind!

    It's too late Nick. Mr C is deeply offended. I can tell.

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:08

    It's too late Nick. Mr C is deeply offended. I can tell.

    fact. only a carefully selected gift will make it up to me.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:10

    fact. only a carefully selected gift will make it up to me.

    Fact: you will have to come sidepodpubbing!

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:10

    fact. only a carefully selected gift will make it up to me.

    un-named energy drink (baked into a muffin)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:12

    I'm really scared :(

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:14

    I'm really scared :(

    of red bull muffins?

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:14

    I'm really scared :(

    Spider? Night time?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:14

    It's too late Nick. Mr C is deeply offended. I can tell.

    hehe are you sure your not bullying me now ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:15

    I'm really scared :(

    did you hear a bump in the night?

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 01:15

    I'm really scared :(

    again?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:16

    No :( I have emotional fear. You're all very practical!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:17

    No :( I have emotional fear. You're all very practical!

    Is it because I am not as terrible as you first thought?

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:17

    No :( I have emotional fear. You're all very practical!

    we're all male.

    we select things we're likely able to fix.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 01:17

    No :( I have emotional fear. You're all very practical!

    again? was practical?

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:18

    we select things we're likely able to fix.

    and we have no emotions

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:18

    Is it because I am not as terrible as you first thought?

    Ahhhh that must be it. You didn't fix my boiler though so you're not that nice.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:19

    Ahhhh that must be it. You didn't fix my boiler though so you're not that nice.

    I tried! You would have just stayed in bed, so i did make the effort! :D

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 01:19

    Would it help if Mr C called you on skype and sang to you?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:20

    I tried! You would have just stayed in bed, so i did make the effort! :D

    By the time you got here it would be getting light. Leave now!!!!

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:20

    Ahhhh that must be it. You didn't fix my boiler though so you're not that nice.

    He doesn't have an orange drill, so he was never going to fix it

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:20

    Would it help if Mr C called you on skype and sang to you?

    Errm no. I think that would give me nightmares.

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:22

    Speaking of nightmares - has anyone watched that movie "let the right one in", suggested on the sidpodradio show? Looks super creepy.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:24

    Errm no. I think that would give me nightmares.

    Would an F1 Joke help?

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 01:25

    Would an F1 Joke help?

    yes

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:26

    yes

    I dont know any, go right ahead!

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:27

    I dont know any, go right ahead!

    you must be able to make one up / google one?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:27

    Hmmm what would help would be if I could work out why I'm more scared than happy about the prospect of seeing my bf again.....

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:28

    I dont know any, go right ahead!

    Where's Alex when you need him :P

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:28

    Hmmm what would help would be if I could work out why I'm more scared than happy about the prospect of seeing my bf again.....

    Is he a vampire?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:28

    Hmmm what would help would be if I could work out why I'm more scared than happy about the prospect of seeing my bf again.....

    Alcohol ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:28

    Is he a vampire?

    :D

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:28

    Would an F1 Joke help?

    yes

    honda.

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:29

    honda.

    hehe. :D

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:29

    honda.

    :D

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 01:30

    Hmmm what would help would be if I could work out why I'm more scared than happy about the prospect of seeing my bf again.....

    Because you are going to see how he is getting on in India and he may really like it there and you may really hate it so if he decides he wants to stay there that would be a big probem. That would be my guess

  • me21/10/2009 at 01:31

    That would be my guess

    phil and fern holly, need you!

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 01:32

    phil and fern holly, need you!

    If they pay I am there

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:33

    you must be able to make one up / google one?

    I have been trying to think up a jock clear one but am failing badly!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:34

    Nah I know he really likes it. I'm accepting of that. I'm just a bit concerned that we won't get on properly, like we used to. Either that or he might propose again. I'm not sure which is worse which is probably a problem in itself.

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 01:36

    Goodness it's lunchtime already. I'm off.

    Go to bed people!

    Bye ;-)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:37

    Hmmm what would help would be if I could work out why I'm more scared than happy about the prospect of seeing my bf again.....

    When you have been having a long term relationship for a wehile then see each other again it is difficult, i have done it before... it will go one of two ways, you will either be the same as you were before, or you will have changed during your time apart. even if you speak to him every day there is no way to predict it, so yes it is scary.

    Probably doubly so for you if you are going away afterwards, and i am guessing the main reason you are going to india is to see him, so if their is aproblem you could be stuck there which would be difficult.

    It isnt easy, it might be scary, but you will be really happy when you see him, i guarentee it, so it is ok to be excited too!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:37

    Go to bed people!

    you!!!!

    night!

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 01:37

    Nah I know he really likes it. I'm accepting of that. I'm just a bit concerned that we won't get on properly, like we used to. Either that or he might propose again. I'm not sure which is worse which is probably a problem in itself.

    So what makes you think you aon't get on as well? It is ony weeks since you were with him.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:38

    Nah I know he really likes it. I'm accepting of that. I'm just a bit concerned that we won't get on properly, like we used to. Either that or he might propose again. I'm not sure which is worse which is probably a problem in itself.

    Hehe he didnt even propose the first time! But saying that it might be a possibility if he really misses you so come up with a good answer this time!!!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:40

    I have been trying to think up a jock clear one but am failing badly!

    I have (a non jock one) one...

    what was the difference between mark webber and the 3 championship contenders in Brazil?

    People cared where the other 3 finished... :P

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 01:41

    So what makes you think you aon't get on as well? It is ony weeks since you were with him.

    We've had a couple of weird phone conversations. I dunno. It's hard to talk properly.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 01:43

    We've had a couple of weird phone conversations. I dunno. It's hard to talk properly.

    Phone calls at time can be like e-mail. All sorts of meanings can be read into things that were not meant especially if you keep analysing it afterwards. The odds are you are going to meet and istantly be back where you were before. Although hopefully without you laughing at him if he proposes.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:43

    We've had a couple of weird phone conversations. I dunno. It's hard to talk properly.

    With you working so much and him traveling it must be quite difficult, it will be much easier when you are there.

    India isnt the easiest placce, but it is amazing¬!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:50

    I hope we havent scare you off... does this help?

    http://www.ramblestrip.com/oolong_pancake.jpg

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:55

    Odd interview with branson... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8317365.stm

    Will decide if we continue to sponsor them after abu dhabi... unless they want to do both manor and Brawn? but i cant see them spending that much!

    Arent they supposed to annonce their partnership at AD?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 01:55

    Odd interview with branson... http://news.bb...rmula_one/8317365.stm

    Also says he knew one of the test drivers of the car.

    Now who could that be, and what does that mean for next year ;)

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 02:03

    Will decide if we continue to sponsor them after abu dhabi... unless they want to do both manor and Brawn? but i cant see them spending that much!

    Sounds to me like they won't be carrying on with Brawn but he wants to milk as much good publicity from their win as he can rather than having the media in th build up to Abu Dhabi going on about them pulling out.

    It would make sense for them to pay a few million to sponsor Brawn next year in addition to their Manor deal. Apart from the positive association it would let them get closer to Mercedes so that when McLaren eventtually do their own engine Manor can pick up the customer Mercs. It would also help Virgin do deals on Merc road vehicles.

  • Spikey21/10/2009 at 03:24

    apple crumble. follow up cooking show perhaps? this could be a regular thing. "avoid food poisoning the Mr C way!" lol

    Finally caught up with the sidepodcast radio thingy. bloody fantastic. well done all :)

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 05:34

    It would make sense for them to pay a few million to sponsor Brawn next year in addition to their Manor deal. Apart from the positive association it would let them get closer to Mercedes so that when McLaren eventtually do their own engine Manor can pick up the customer Mercs. It would also help Virgin do deals on Merc road vehicles.

    Makes excellent sense.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 05:46

    Well, that was weird. Updating my Java for Windows, it was recommending me to install... a Bing toolbar. :-/

    I didn't know Java and .NET, IBM and Microsoft were friends again...?

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 06:18

    I dont know any, go right ahead!

    Where's Alex when you need him :P

    hmmm... An F1 Joke you're after. I don't know any... How about a made up one?

    Which F1 driver has announced he's switching to a semi-automatic gearbox next year?

    Timo Kalashnikov

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 06:19

    I hope we havent scare you off... does this help?

    Hehehehe no I erm fell asleep but that's a lovely guinea pig.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 06:21

    I dont know any, go right ahead!

    Where's Alex when you need him :P

    hmmm... An F1 Joke you're after. I don't know any... How about a made up one?

    Which F1 driver has announced he's switching to a semi-automatic gearbox next year?

    Timo Kalashnikov

    Which F1 driver is changing the way he fastens his clothes?

    Jenson Zipper :D

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 06:43

    Morning,

    Just in case you guys missed it last night - I posted my Fantasy Racers Analysis for you ;)

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 06:58

    Hello all. I hope my phone returns to me tomorrow, I am having mobile doohickey withdrawal pretty badly.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 07:00

    Hello all. I hope my phone returns to me tomorrow, I am having mobile doohickey withdrawal pretty badly.

    Did you lose it or break it?

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 07:01

    Did you lose it or break it?

    left it in NZ :D

  • Kathi21/10/2009 at 07:03

    Just in case you guys missed it last night - I posted my Fantasy Racers Analysis for you ;)

    I like the new diagram (obviously) Amazing that Fisi is 4th.

    (your team's scores are quite interesting ;) )

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 07:04

    Just in case you guys missed it last night - I posted my Fantasy Racers Analysis for you ;)

    I like the new diagram (obviously) Amazing that Fisi is 4th.

    (your team's scores are quite interesting ;) )

    Ahh Pants! Thanks for pointing that out - for some reason I only changed Fisichella!

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 07:08

    Just in case you guys missed it last night - I posted my Fantasy Racers Analysis for you ;)

    I like the new diagram (obviously) Amazing that Fisi is 4th.

    (your team's scores are quite interesting ;) )

    Ahh Pants! Thanks for pointing that out - for some reason I only changed Fisichella!

    Right, updated - thanks again Kathi!

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 07:12

    Did you lose it or break it?

    left it in NZ :D

    Any story behind it? Anything like this? :D

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 07:18

    Any story behind it? Anything like this? :D

    the alarm annoyed me so I shoved it under my pillow :D

    Mum posted it back on Monday so it shouldn't be far away.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 07:21

    Any story behind it? Anything like this? :D

    the alarm annoyed me so I shoved it under my pillow :D

    Mum posted it back on Monday so it shouldn't be far away.

    :D

    And she was allowed to post it with a battery in it? My wife's phone was borrowed to Denmark and they were told they could not post it back to NZ...

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 07:22

    And she was allowed to post it with a battery in it? My wife's phone was borrowed to Denmark and they were told they could not post it back to NZ...

    Who did you ask? I'd just have rammed it in the mail....

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 07:24

    And she was allowed to post it with a battery in it? My wife's phone was borrowed to Denmark and they were told they could not post it back to NZ...

    I don't think she told them. I do think it is against postal rules though, maybe thats why its not here yet :D

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 07:25

    And she was allowed to post it with a battery in it? My wife's phone was borrowed to Denmark and they were told they could not post it back to NZ...

    Who did you ask? I'd just have rammed it in the mail....

    The people that posted it posted the phone without battery as that's what the post office told them...

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 07:26

    The people that posted it posted the phone without battery as that's what the post office told them...

    Ah people you know are obviously a lot more honest. I'd just have wrapped it up, had it weighed and sent it. No need to talk about what's inside.... :P

  • James21/10/2009 at 07:29

    Ah people you know are obviously a lot more honest. I'd just have wrapped it up, had it weighed and sent it. No need to talk about what's inside.... :P

    Hehe I would do the same, but I would have tempted to leave it on and phone it whilst it is on route :D

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 07:30

    Ah people you know are obviously a lot more honest. I'd just have wrapped it up, had it weighed and sent it. No need to talk about what's inside.... :P

    on the customs form she put "gift" and she wanted to know what value to put on it, she was rather panicky about getting it wrong. I hate those customs forms, they told me what was in all my Christmas presents before I opened them :(

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 07:35

    on the customs form she put "gift" and she wanted to know what value to put on it, she was rather panicky about getting it wrong. I hate those customs forms, they told me what was in all my Christmas presents before I opened them :(

    Hahahaha I had never thought of that.... How nasty. They should put it under a flap.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 07:36

    Ah people you know are obviously a lot more honest. I'd just have wrapped it up, had it weighed and sent it. No need to talk about what's inside.... :P

    on the customs form she put "gift" and she wanted to know what value to put on it, she was rather panicky about getting it wrong. I hate those customs forms, they told me what was in all my Christmas presents before I opened them :(

    Same here - although I know already that my parents have sent me two books for my birthday and a book for Xmas.

    If they had asked, I could have given them some very #MFC presents that required no heavy package postage halfway across the world ;)

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 07:39

    Same here - although I know already that my parents have sent me two books for my birthday and a book for Xmas.

    my Christmas requests so far are a Finnish flag and a Roger Federer cap. Outrageous Fortune season 5 DVD was on there too but it came out on October 15 so I bought it while I was there :D

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 07:51

    Morning everyone. How is Wednesday working out?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 07:51

    Morning everyone. How is Wednesday working out?

    So far so good, actually. :) You?

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 07:53

    Morning everyone. How is Wednesday working out?

    I found out that Ben and Jerrys is finally launching in Australia so I can finally get all those amazing ice cream flavours that get mentioned here from time to time. So it's a good day for me. And yourself?

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 07:56

    So far so good, actually. :) You?

    Very good. The person who orders the stationery has saved up all the free chocolate boxes and biscuits they send, and is running a lucky dip for everyone to get something.

    Such a good idea!

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 07:57

    Such a good idea!

    so generous! I would have a hard time sharing if someone sent me chocolate and biscuits :D

  • paul21/10/2009 at 07:59

    Morning everyone. How is Wednesday working out?

    Wednesday? Full of #MFC catchup type stuff.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 07:59

    so generous! I would have a hard time sharing if someone sent me chocolate and biscuits :D

    I know! I didn't even know they sent free chocolate, so she could have been getting away with it as well.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:01

    I know! I didn't even know they sent free chocolate, so she could have been getting away with it as well.

    Perhaps she's had enough and can now share? ;)

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 08:03

    Perhaps she's had enough and can now share? ;)

    Could be. We switched supplier relatively recently. The old one used to send cuddly toys. Another department has quite the menagerie on their filing cabinets.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 08:03

    Morning everyone. How is Wednesday working out?

    Morning,

    Very well thank you!

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 08:04

    Perhaps she's had enough and can now share? ;)

    Could be. We switched supplier relatively recently. The old one used to send cuddly toys. Another department has quite the menagerie on their filing cabinets.

    I have an Easter Bunny that wears a mini-Rossi helmet at home ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:10

    I found out that Ben and Jerrys is finally launching in Australia so I can finally get all those amazing ice cream flavours that get mentioned here from time to time. So it's a good day for me. And yourself?

    Mmmmmm chunky monkey

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:16

    Mmmmmm chunky monkey

    Alison! Do you ever sleep?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:17

    Alison! Do you ever sleep?

    I had like 6 hours sleep....

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:17

    Alison! Do you ever sleep?

    That used to be a line we reserved for Amy...

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:17

    That used to be a line we reserved for Amy...

    Yes indeed.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 08:18

    Just catching up with the comments. I always miss interesting MFC conversations in the early hours.

    #notfair

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:19

    Cassette tapes for the win.

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:20

    Just catching up with the comments. I always miss interesting MFC conversations in the early hours.

    Nerd chat, mostly. I thought we were boring most people

    All Nooks and iMacs

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 08:22

    Nerd chat, mostly. I thought we were boring most people

    It is only until MFC gets it's own doohickey.

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:23

    Mmmmmm chunky monkey

    I am dubious about that one because I am not a fan of banana flavoured things

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:24

    I had like 6 hours sleep....

    NZ will fix you. It seems to have fixed me.

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:25

    It is only until MFC gets it's own doohickey.

    That's gonna get confusing......

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 08:27

    That's gonna get confusing......

    More confusing than talking about ebooks on an F1 site?

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:28

    NZ will fix you. It seems to have fixed me.

    ooh that reminds me, my mum said if you are ever anywhere near them during your trip to pop in for a cup of tea :D

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:30

    More confusing than talking about ebooks on an F1 site?

    no ;-)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:31

    ooh that reminds me, my mum said if you are ever anywhere near them during your trip to pop in for a cup of tea :D

    Awwww how kind :D

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:33

    Awwww how kind :D

    we were discussing who was going to Spa and I mentioned that I was trying to convince you to come to Melbourne because you'd be in NZ.

    "will she be in Dunedin?"

    "I don't know"

    "Whats her name?"

    "Alison"

    "How old is she?"

    "I don't know"

    "Where is she from?"

    "England"

    "Which part?"

    "I can't remember"

    "Oh. Well tell her to call in anytime"

    Stranger danger = non existant!

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:34

    Stranger danger = non existant!

    That's really sweet of your parents. ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:35

    Hahaha well I'm 21 and live about as close to the Scottish border as you can get without actually being in Scotland.

    That's so adorable.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:36

    Hahaha well I'm 21 and live about as close to the Scottish border as you can get without actually being in Scotland.

    Hmmm. We all seem to be in the same age group, you, me, and Amy. :D

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:37

    Hahaha well I'm 21 and live about as close to the Scottish border as you can get without actually being in Scotland.

    I always forget who comes from where, I remember Bassano and Alex are in London because that is easy to remember because its London, and Lukeh is in Wales which I know because thats another country.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:39

    I always forget who comes from where, I remember Bassano and Alex are in London because that is easy to remember because its London, and Lukeh is in Wales which I know because thats another country.

    Yeah, I have no idea where most people are. It's all very confusing. I was born in London if that's helpful :P

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:40

    Yeah, I have no idea where most people are. It's all very confusing. I was born in London if that's helpful :P

    Steven's from Scotland, right? And there were the obvious ones - Scott from Italy (at the time), Dan Brunell is from the US, Jordan F1 is from Canada if I remember correctly.

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:41

    Steven's from Scotland, right? And there were the obvious ones - Scott from Italy (at the time), Dan Brunell is from the US, Jordan F1 is from Canada if I remember correctly.

    ah yes, I remember the non-England ones mainly. It's England with all its wee towns and regions and things, woo confusing!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:41

    Steven's from Scotland, right? And there were the obvious ones - Scott from Italy (at the time), Dan Brunell is from the US, Jordan F1 is from Canada if I remember correctly.

    Does he live in Scotland now? For some reason I thought that he didn't anymore. I can't really think why though.

    I'd class myself as Scottish to add a new layer of confusion.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:41

    ah yes, I remember the non-England ones mainly. It's England with all its wee towns and regions and things, woo confusing!

    Hahaha! I don't even try remembering them anymore.

    Well, I do know the Cs are from Rockall. :D :D

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:42

    I'd class myself as Scottish to add a new layer of confusion.

    But I thought you grew up in England?

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:43

    Hmmm. We all seem to be in the same age group, you, me, and Amy. :D

    Oh yeah! um....

    no, not me too.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:44

    But I thought you grew up in England?

    Yeah I did. My whole family are Scottish though. If I moved abroad and had kids there, my children could still be British citizens.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:44

    Oh yeah! um....

    no, not me too.

    Heheheheh. :D

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:45

    Yeah I did. My whole family are Scottish though. If I moved abroad and had kids there, my children could still be British citizens.

    Interesting. From what I remember when we were on Sidepodradio, you didn't have so much of a Scottish accent. :)

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:45

    Heheheheh. :D

    How on earth do you know more F1 history than me? I must have seen heaps more of it live!

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 08:45

    Morning :)

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:46

    How on earth do you know more F1 history than me? I must have seen heaps more of it live!

    Journeyer is mystical, he "remembers" times from before he was born!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 08:46

    Morning :)

    Morning Lukeh.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:46

    How on earth do you know more F1 history than me? I must have seen heaps more of it live!

    That's what books and video are for. ;) They're pretty easy to find if you know where to look. :)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 08:46

    Interesting. From what I remember when we were on Sidepodradio, you didn't have so much of a Scottish accent. :)

    I can do. It comes and goes. More horrendous is the east end london accent that comes on as well.....

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:47

    Journeyer is mystical, he "remembers" times from before he was born!

    I'm no good at guessing podcast times, so I can't be that mystical. ;)

    Morning, Lukeh.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:47

    I can do. It comes and goes. More horrendous is the east end london accent that comes on as well.....

    Nice mix. :D I usually have this Filipino accent that I can use with English. I turn it on and off depending on who I talk to.

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:47

    Journeyer is mystical, he "remembers" times from before he was born!

    Mayeb he lives back in time, the way Mr C lives forward in time

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:47

    Morning :)

    its Lukeh! In Wales!

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 08:49

    its Lukeh! In Wales!

    I have had to check if these rumours that I'm in Wales are true despite the lovely weather outside.. But you are correct! :p

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:50

    Maybe he lives back in time, the way Mr C lives forward in time

    How is that even possible? :P

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 08:51

    How is that even possible? :P

    wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff

  • paul21/10/2009 at 08:51

    How is that even possible? :P

    I'm not sure it is. Steven Roy could probably tell us

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:52

    I have had to check if these rumours that I'm in Wales are true despite the lovely weather outside.. But you are correct! :p

    in that case, bore da ;)

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 08:52

    in that case, bore da ;)

    bore da!

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 08:54

    wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff

    I'm not sure it is. Steven Roy could probably tell us

    Sidepodspace, then? :P More like a kindred old soul, probably, I'd think. ;)

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 08:58

    ooh, Catherine is not a trusting girlfriend, what with the helmet and all ;)

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 08:59

    ooh, Catherine is not a trusting girlfriend, what with the helmet and all ;)

    She looks terrified.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 09:00

    She looks terrified.

    Reminds me of last year, when Patrese terrified his wife to pieces - in a Honda road car. :D

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:02

    Just looking at the drop, and this picture really confuses me. Is that Eddie Irvine? And what on earth is going on?!

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 09:02

    Yeah, I have no idea where most people are. It's all very confusing. I was born in London if that's helpful :P

    I know where Alison lives ish... because you've mentioned it a few times and my Aunt lives there (Carlisle)

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:02

    She looks terrified.

    here she is with Mikas girlfriend.

    I bet their conversation goes like this: "so, you like Finnish men? Me too!"

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:03

    Just looking at the drop, and this picture really confuses me. Is that Eddie Irvine? And what on earth is going on?!

    I really, really wish I had some context for that photo because it scares me!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 09:04

    I really, really wish I had some context for that photo because it scares me!

    I think that was more or less the comment when it was posted....

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 09:05

    here she is with Mikas girlfriend.

    I bet their conversation goes like this: "so, you like Finnish men? Me too!"

    Catherine's the one on the right?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 09:06

    Just looking at the drop, and this picture really confuses me. Is that Eddie Irvine? And what on earth is going on?!

    I think it IS Eddie Irvine!

    Maybe they're celebrating the 10th anniversary of his best ever season? ;)

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:06

    Catherine's the one on the right?

    correct

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:07

    Maybe they're celebrating the 10th anniversary of his best ever season? ;)

    I thought it was Bono at first. Maybe Bono and Eddie irvine have morphed into one super irishman

    Well... I say super...

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:07

    correct

    in my scouting I have learned that Kimi makes the front cover of Finnish tabloids with "scoops" such as "its his birthday in Brazil and Jenni isn't there!" and "his grandmother died and he didn't even go to the funeral!"

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 09:09

    in my scouting I have learned that Kimi makes the front cover of Finnish tabloids with "scoops" such as "its his birthday in Brazil and Jenni isn't there!" and "his grandmother died and he didn't even go to the funeral!"

    Boo to the tabloids. Has Heikki ever come up in the tabloids?

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:09

    Boo to the tabloids. Has Heikki ever come up in the tabloids?

    they sent papparazzi to the funeral to take pictures of Jenni, thats pretty low!

    I haven't seen Heikki on any covers, but I don't think he is the "scandal" type :D

  • Kathi21/10/2009 at 09:11

    Boo to the tabloids.

    they are vile and everywhere

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:14

    Well... I say super...

    I went photo hunting to see if it was in a series of photos that might explain what is happening but nope, its just one solitary photo

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:16

    I went photo hunting to see if it was in a series of photos that might explain what is happening but nope, its just one solitary photo

    Maybe Bernie arranged to have a chat with Eddie?

    ....on a helipad

    .......whilst looking very confused with strangers

    ...............with Eddie in ferrari overalls.

    That definitely makes sense.

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 09:22

    Christine, I responded to your excellent question on my site with a WHOLE post... http://www.gamboling.co.uk/2009/10/who-edits-editors.html

    ;)

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:22

    I do not like whoever it was who pointed out that John Lithgow looks like Legard because he is the baddy in the new season of Dexter and EVERY time he is on screen I think of the similarity. And there has been nude scenes.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:25

    I do not like whoever it was who pointed out that John Lithgow looks like Legard because he is the baddy in the new season of Dexter and EVERY time he is on screen I think of the similarity. And there has been nude scenes.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/10/06/daily-6th-october-2009/#comment-534224

    Uh oh

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:25

    Uh oh

    you're on the naughty step for a few more months then, he is in another 8 episodes according to IMDB :(

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 09:26

    Christine, I responded to your excellent question on my site with a WHOLE post... http://www.gam...ho-edits-editors.html

    Oooh, yay!

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 09:28

    Franck Montagny chez Renault en 2010: des discussions en cours

    Contacté par 20minutes.fr, le Français de 31 ans, a confirmé que des discussions sont en cours avec la marque française.

    My very basic French tells me this means that the website has talked to the 31-year-old Frenchman, who has confirmed that discussions are ongoing with the French team. The article also mentions the L'Equipe article from Tuesday.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 09:32

    My very basic French tells me this means that the website has talked to the 31-year-old Frenchman, who has confirmed that discussions are ongoing with the French team. The article also mentions the L'Equipe article from Tuesday.

    They seem to point to this interview though, which is about Singapore and not 2010. http://iheartfranck.com/2009/10/21/autumn-catchup/

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 09:33

    They seem to point to this interview though, which is about Singapore and not 2010. http://iheartf...10/21/autumn-catchup/

    Looks like a link fail to me, as the link spills over to the next sentence. Oh well. Time will tell. I suspect Franck is Renault's Plan B if Toyota manage to hang on to Glock.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 09:35

    Looks like a link fail to me, as the link spills over to the next sentence. Oh well. Time will tell. I suspect Franck is Renault's Plan B if Toyota manage to hang on to Glock.

    I really don't think it will happen.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 09:37

    I really don't think it will happen.

    Stranger things have happened in F1. Montagny's 2008 has been pretty good, and that may have made him attractive to Renault, who wouldn't mind the positive publicity of a French driver.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:42

    I really don't think it will happen.

    I shall start my own team in 2010, and it shall be called Franck's Team, and Franck shall drive for them and be world champion. We will also recruit Birmingham City defender Franck Queudrue, although he may be Badoer-esque.

    Ah I'm sure he wouldn't be that bad.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:43

    oops, I mean 2011

    *quickly hides secret Qadbak plans*

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 09:48

    *quickly hides secret Qadbak plans*

    Qadbak hiring Queudrue

    Is your thing to have only Qs you'll be like the new Red Bull with Sebs but with Qs

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:50

    Is your thing to have only Qs you'll be like the new Red Bull with Sebs but with Qs

    I think it is viable business plan :)

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 09:51

    I think it is viable business plan :)

    'Cept for my Franck, obviously.

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 09:52

    I think it is viable business plan :)

    can Frank Williams play too or is he missing too many Cs?

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:54

    can Frank Williams play too or is he missing too many Cs?

    More C's are necessary :P

    Perhaps he can swap his 'Sir' for a 'c'. I'm sure there will be a shop somewhere to trade

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 09:55

    'Cept for my Franck, obviously.

    He's the Mark Webber of the operation ;)

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 09:56

    I think it is viable business plan :)

    Your business plan needs more Qs ;)

    Try this:

    Quintessentially Qualitative Quadrupling Qudillions of Quash

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 09:58

    Quintessentially Qualitative Quadrupling Qudillions of Quash

    That's a lot of Q's

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 10:01

    One of the many stories now coming out about Brawn and Button after winning the title:

    Button has paid for his own airfare.

    It seems the days where almost every driver on the grid had his own private jet (which was true as recently as the start of the decade) are long gone.

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 10:09

    Button has paid for his own airfare.

    I'm finding it hard to have sympathy for him.

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 10:15

    my brother does not get F1 injokes. He was telling me about how he went on a motorbike ride tonight and managed to leave his backpack behind, but all it had in it was a visor.

    Bullitt says:

    given i only bought the visor today too

    Amy says:

    is it a white visor?

    Bullitt says:

    why would i get a white visor?

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 10:16

    my brother does not get F1 injokes.

    Boooo.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 10:16

    my brother does not get F1 injokes. He was telling me about how he went on a motorbike ride tonight and managed to leave his backpack behind, but all it had in it was a visor.

    Bullitt says:

    given i only bought the visor today too

    Amy says:

    is it a white visor?

    Bullitt says:

    why would i get a white visor?

    hehe :D

    It can be quite funny when you slip out an F1 injoke and not realise that noone else around you will get it, just for their sheer confusement

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 10:20

    It can be quite funny when you slip out an F1 injoke and not realise that noone else around you will get it, just for their sheer confusement

    I like that on spc there is a whole community of people who understand the relevance of a white visor :D

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 10:42

    my brother does not get F1 injokes. He was telling me about how he went on a motorbike ride tonight and managed to leave his backpack behind, but all it had in it was a visor.

    Bullitt says:

    Your brother is called Bulitt?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 10:54

    #mfc

    I wonder where they could be going with this one?

    Google Audio? New Google Music Service Launch Imminent

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 10:56

    Raikkonen too expensive for Toyota admits Howett

    Wow, I thought Toyota can afford anything and everything in F1? Someone worth spending on, and they might not spend enough...

    Anyhoo, it says Kimi's talking to two other options. One has to be McLaren, while I suspect the other is a WRC team...

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 10:57

    Your brother is called Bulitt?

    my parents were huge Steve McQueen fans. Or not. I am not sure why he still uses the nickname he used 10 years ago :D

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 10:57

    I like that on spc there is a whole community of people who understand the relevance of a white visor :D

    :D

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 10:59

    Your brother is called Bulitt?

    my parents were huge Steve McQueen fans. Or not. I am not sure why he still uses the nickname he used 10 years ago :D

    So his nickname is Bullitt or his name is Bullitt?

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:00

    So his nickname is Bullitt or his name is Bullitt?

    no one in person has ever called him Bullitt but its the username he uses on forums and things.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:01

    So his nickname is Bullitt or his name is Bullitt?

    no one in person has ever called him Bullitt but its the username he uses on forums and things.

    Phew! I was a bit worried there ;)

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:02

    And of course, Joe.

    Meanwhile, back in the real world

    He says there:

    It is not the sport that wears you down. The racing has been great this year and Interlagos provided a terrific story. Nor is it really the politics. This year there has relatively little off track drama beyond the obviously disastrous Singapore 2008 scandal and the dim and distant McLaren-Melbourne kerfuffle.

    How on earth could Joe have forgotten about the FOTA breakaway?

    Joe also has a rant about Bernie's misquoted remarks on Senna.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 11:02

    no one in person has ever called him Bullitt but its the username he uses on forums and things.

    I am slightly disappointed :)

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:03

    Phew! I was a bit worried there ;)

    Mind you, it's not that bad a name. ;)

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 11:03

    I am slightly disappointed :)

    Me too, Bullitt is an awesome name for a person.

    Also, I have been on my travels to a certain bakery....

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:03

    Also, I have been on my travels to a certain bakery....

    your first born is so going to be called Greg.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:03

    Phew! I was a bit worried there ;)

    Mind you, it's not that bad a name. ;)

    In certain situations it could be - but it's a cool online handle/avatar/nickname :)

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 11:04

    He says there:

    He says it is the travelling that gets you down. Hmm. No, no, I think it's the sport.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 11:04

    your first born is so going to be called Greg.

    If so, he has a lot to live up to ;)

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:04

    your first born is so going to be called Greg.

    Gregg, you mean? ;) Hehehe.

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:05

    He says it is the travelling that gets you down. Hmm. No, no, I think it's the sport.

    oh its the travelling, didn't you know that poor old Jenson had to pay for his own travel?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:06

    He says it is the travelling that gets you down. Hmm. No, no, I think it's the sport.

    Well, if I were in his shoes, I'd probably agree. When you've been in the sport this long, you probably get used to the politics very quickly. Travelling, on the other hand, gets tougher as one gets older.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:06

    oh its the travelling, didn't you know that poor old Jenson had to pay for his own travel?

    TBH, I don't think most of the drivers pay for their own travel. Definitely not those in the big teams.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:06

    He says it is the travelling that gets you down. Hmm. No, no, I think it's the sport.

    oh its the travelling, didn't you know that poor old Jenson had to pay for his own travel?

    That's a lot of air miles though!

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:07

    Joe also has a rant about Bernie's misquoted remarks on Senna.

    Typical journalism these days :(

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:07

    Pafft! I hate grapes with seeds in them!

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:08

    TBH, I don't think most of the drivers pay for their own travel. Definitely not those in the big teams.

    thats probably true but the way it came across to me, which admittedly was the spin of the reporting and not of Jenson himself, was its such a struggle to have to do something like that. Whereas all the journos and things do it too and he has far more $$ than they do.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 11:09

    Joe also has a rant about Bernie's misquoted remarks on Senna.

    Journalism is an area I'm interested in possibly for the future and stuff like this just makes me want to turn away from the idea...

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:10

    thats probably true but the way it came across to me, which admittedly was the spin of the reporting and not of Jenson himself, was its such a struggle to have to do something like that. Whereas all the journos and things do it too and he has far more $$ than they do.

    Point made, indeed.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:11

    TBH, I don't think most of the drivers pay for their own travel. Definitely not those in the big teams.

    thats probably true but the way it came across to me, which admittedly was the spin of the reporting and not of Jenson himself, was its such a struggle to have to do something like that. Whereas all the journos and things do it too and he has far more $$ than they do.

    With the big pay cut and paying for his own travel, it is still a big hit - regardless of how rich he is, it's still a sacrifice and it shows what kind of man he is. While other driver cruise and collect or wait to get paid out of contracts (which admittedly, Jenson has previous in the latter), he has learned his lesson and did whatever it took to keep the team going...

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:11

    With the big pay cut and paying for his own travel, it is still a big hit - regardless of how rich he is, it's still a sacrifice and it shows what kind of man he is. While other driver cruise and collect or wait to get paid out of contracts (which admittedly, Jenson has previous in the latter), he has learned his lesson and did whatever it took to keep the team going...

    because if he didn't he'd be unemployed. It was nice of him but it wasn't purely for the good of the team.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:19

    With the big pay cut and paying for his own travel, it is still a big hit - regardless of how rich he is, it's still a sacrifice and it shows what kind of man he is. While other driver cruise and collect or wait to get paid out of contracts (which admittedly, Jenson has previous in the latter), he has learned his lesson and did whatever it took to keep the team going...

    because if he didn't he'd be unemployed. It was nice of him but it wasn't purely for the good of the team.

    There were other offers on the table though...

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:25

    Journalism is an area I'm interested in possibly for the future and stuff like this just makes me want to turn away from the idea...

    In your case, Lukeh, you won't have to deal with it as much as other journalists, as you're a native English speaker, and you write for a predominantly English-reading audience. It's an occupational hazard, I guess.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:26

    There were other offers on the table though...

    Most notably Renault. And given how their car has performed this year, it could easily have been an oh-so-very different season, potentially with Vettel as champ and Button somewhere in the midfield.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:29

    There were other offers on the table though...

    Most notably Renault. And given how their car has performed this year, it could easily have been an oh-so-very different season, potentially with Vettel as champ and Button somewhere in the midfield.

    Exactly. The 'old' Jenson would have switched at the drop of the hat, but to his credit, he stuck with the team even when they faced impossible odds.

    Like Jackie Stewart says "Winning is Not Enough" - you have to conduct yourself like a champion too, and Jenson has learned that a lot better than Hamilton has (for example)...

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:29

    Most notably Renault. And given how their car has performed this year, it could easily have been an oh-so-very different season, potentially with Vettel as champ and Button somewhere in the midfield.

    Not to mention a potentially very messy situation with 3-car teams...

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:42

    boo at my "free" Windows 7 upgrade having to be shipped from the USA so not only do I have to pay shipping, I have to wait on the disc. Thats not very MFC.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:43

    boo at my "free" Windows 7 upgrade having to be shipped from the USA so not only do I have to pay shipping, I have to wait on the disc. Thats not very MFC.

    They had the same rules for the Vista upgrade. Nothing new.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:43

    boo at my "free" Windows 7 upgrade having to be shipped from the USA so not only do I have to pay shipping, I have to wait on the disc. Thats not very MFC.

    It's very much in the T&C though :(

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 11:45

    boo at my "free" Windows 7 upgrade having to be shipped from the USA so not only do I have to pay shipping, I have to wait on the disc. Thats not very MFC.

    How very silly :(

    Mine is downloadable from tomorrow...

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:45

    It's very much in the T&C though :(

    oh yes, its exactly what I was expecting, and a $20 upgrade for the shipping is much nicer than a full upgrade cost. But I am impatient!

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:47

    It's very much in the T&C though :(

    oh yes, its exactly what I was expecting, and a $20 upgrade for the shipping is much nicer than a full upgrade cost. But I am impatient!

    Yeah it's pretty crappy TBH!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 11:49

    oh yes, its exactly what I was expecting, and a $20 upgrade for the shipping is much nicer than a full upgrade cost. But I am impatient!

    Did you get your Kindle yet?

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:52

    Did you get your Kindle yet?

    it departed New York around this time last night so it should be processed in Melbourne in the morning and hopefully I shall have it by Friday at the latest :D

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:52

    oh yes, its exactly what I was expecting, and a $20 upgrade for the shipping is much nicer than a full upgrade cost. But I am impatient!

    Did you get your Kindle yet?

    Just saw this story about a guy who damaged his Kindle 2 after dropping it and managed to get Amazon to replace it and compensate him because he sent them a scary lawyer letter.

    I still can't decide whether he is awesome for getting the replacement when Amazon insisted the damage was not covered by the warranty, or a douchebag for threatening to sue after it was his fault the unit got damaged? I mean, so when I get tired of my next gadget, shall I just drop it, "lawyer up" and threaten to sue the manufacturer unless they give in to my demands? Sounds a bit hinky to me!

    Anyway, here's the link:

    http://gizmodo.com/5385918/dude-drops-his-kindle-2-convinces-amazon-to-replace-it-and-pay-him-200-for-his-troubles

  • me21/10/2009 at 11:53

    Just catching up with the comments. I always miss interesting MFC conversations in the early hours.

    i knew that would bug you.

    i almost brought up the fact we never buy each other xmas presents but figured it would tip alison over the edge.

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 11:53

    I still can't decide whether he is awesome for getting the replacement when Amazon insisted the damage was not covered by the warranty, or a douchebag for threatening to sue after it was his fault the unit got damaged? I mean, so when I get tired of my next gadget, shall I just drop it, "lawyer up" and threaten to sue the manufacturer unless they give in to my demands? Sounds a bit hinky to me!

    depends if your gadget has been advertised with a video showing how safe it is to drop it!

  • James21/10/2009 at 11:54

    boo at my "free" Windows 7 upgrade having to be shipped from the USA so not only do I have to pay shipping, I have to wait on the disc. Thats not very MFC.

    How very silly :(

    Mine is downloadable from tomorrow...

    and will you download tommorow? :)

    I love Windows 7, everyone needs it.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 11:55

    and will you download tommorow? :)

    of course! £30 for Home premium, I'm not complaining. I'm actually looking forward to it.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:56

    That sucks. I moved my team meeting to tomorrow make way for a mandatory training tonight. 10 minutes before training starts, trainer says she'll move the training to tomorrow night. That's just great... Grr.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 11:57

    I love Windows 7, everyone needs it.

    Will get it with my new laptop next year. :D

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:57

    and will you download tommorow? :)

    of course! £30 for Home premium, I'm not complaining. I'm actually looking forward to it.

    That's why I'm waiting until January for the new computer - hopefully will be cheaper and have Windows 7 too!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 11:58

    i almost brought up the fact we never buy each other xmas presents but figured it would tip alison over the edge.

    Nope. Nor Easter Eggs or Valentine's stuff or birthdays. We rock :)

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 11:59

    i almost brought up the fact we never buy each other xmas presents but figured it would tip alison over the edge.

    Nope. Nor Easter Eggs or Valentine's stuff or birthdays. We rock :)

    Don't you ever get each other presents?

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 11:59

    Nope. Nor Easter Eggs or Valentine's stuff or birthdays. We rock :)

    *remembers this years Valentines Day*

    Ahh deary me :D

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 12:00

    Don't you ever get each other presents?

    Erm, well, he paid for my iPod?

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:00

    of course! £30 for Home premium, I'm not complaining. I'm actually looking forward to it.

    I don't like Home Premium, Professional is where its at :P

  • me21/10/2009 at 12:00

    Erm, well, he paid for my iPod?

    we did the lego thing during the party last year.

    that may have been the last one (and the first for many years).

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 12:01

    *remembers this years Valentines Day*

    It lives on in the wiki: http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Worst+Valentine's+Ever

    :D

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:01

    Don't you ever get each other presents?

    Erm, well, he paid for my iPod?

    That counts.

    Also stuff you need counts too - my (early) birthday present this year was an office chair :P

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 12:01

    Did you get your Kindle yet?

    speaking of Kindle, there was a book I wanted to buy but it said Not Available in Australia. So the next day I was logged out of Amazon, and somehow managed to buy it while logged out. And when I logged in again it still tells me it's unavailable, but as shown it also tells me I have ordered it. The money has been taken off my credit card so I'll be really curious when it arrives as to whether my purchase was successful.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:02

    of course! £30 for Home premium, I'm not complaining. I'm actually looking forward to it.

    I don't like Home Premium, Professional is where its at :P

    Why should one get pro over home?

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 12:02

    Also stuff you need counts too - my (early) birthday present this year was an office chair :P

    and Milky Bar. That's a present. Generally its a 'I am buying your forgiveness' present, but it still counts.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 12:02

    That counts.

    It depends what you're talking about, then. We buy each other stuff when we need stuff.

    But if you're talking about a gift out of the blue or because it's some kind of arbitrary celebration, then no.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 12:03

    I don't like Home Premium, Professional is where its at :P

    Home Premium suits my needs. professional is too...

    ....well, professional. :P

  • me21/10/2009 at 12:03

    and Milky Bar. That's a present. Generally its a 'I am buying your forgiveness' present, but it still counts.

    in that case christine buys me food every week from the shop and then cooks it for me.

    i was thinking mostly in terms of something that's wrapped up.

  • Amy21/10/2009 at 12:04

    ....well, professional. :P

    I am getting Professional because I already have Vista Business so thats just what it told me I had to upgrade to :D

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 12:04

    i was thinking mostly in terms of something that's wrapped up.

    But if you're talking about a gift out of the blue or because it's some kind of arbitrary celebration, then no.

    You really are meant for each other. Kinda like soulmates, if you will. ;)

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 12:04

    You really are meant for each other. Kinda like soulmates, if you will. ;)

    That's much nicer than Alison's "You two deserve each other."

  • me21/10/2009 at 12:05

    That's much nicer than Alison's "You two deserve each other."

    :D :D

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 12:05

    That's much nicer than Alison's "You two deserve each other."

    That's almost Jamesian in its wrongness ;)

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 12:05

    That's much nicer than Alison's "You two deserve each other."

    I'm sure she meant the same thing. :)

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 12:05

    That's almost Jamesian in its wrongness ;)

    :D

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:06

    Why should one get pro over home?

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare-editions/default.aspx ;)

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:07

    I don't like Home Premium, Professional is where its at :P

    Home Premium suits my needs. professional is too...

    ....well, professional. :P

    Heh yeah I get that but mine came from Uni. It is essentially the Business version of Vista.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:07

    That's much nicer than Alison's "You two deserve each other."

    Hey!

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 12:08

    Hey!

    PING! :D

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:15

    Afternoon all

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:17

    Why should one get pro over home?

    http://www.mic...editions/default.aspx ;)

    So why are you picking professional?

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:25

    So why are you picking professional?

    I picked professional mainly because it was all I had access to through my Uni. ;) If I had been paying I'd still gone with it because you get that bit more than Home premium with XP mode and the ability to do a full-system backup and restore. Also Ultimate has two things I wouldn't ever use which are missing from Professional, so it is perfect for me.

    I also think there are different logon screens for each version, the videos of the Ultimate are different to Professional, no idea what Home Premium looks like.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:27

    I don't see what you get that isn't on your computer already. What's the point of a new OS?

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:27

    I also think there are different logon screens for each version, the videos of the Ultimate are different to Professional, no idea what Home Premium looks like.

    actually ignore that bit. They just changed the background themselves :)

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:28

    I don't see what you get that isn't on your computer already. What's the point of a new OS?

    What OS do you have now?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:35

    What OS do you have now?

    Vista.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:35

    What OS do you have now?

    Vista.

    I think you definitely need to upgrade!

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 12:39

    BIG rant from Joe on the FIA election, specifically, the criticism he received for saying he doesn't want to cover it:

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/the-fia-election-2/

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:40

    What OS do you have now?

    Vista.

    I think you definitely need to upgrade!

    Hehe I'm taking the line that if you have Vista, upgrade when you can. But Alison if you are happy with Vista then stick with it. :)

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 12:41

    BIG rant from Joe on the FIA election, specifically, the criticism he received for saying he doesn't want to cover it:

    Mind you, he's right on all counts.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:41

    Hehe I'm taking the line that if you have Vista, upgrade when you can. But Alison if you are happy with Vista then stick with it. :)

    For a normal user, whats wrong with it?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:44

    I think you definitely need to upgrade!

    I don't have any problems with it. I don't get the big deal.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:44

    Hehe I'm taking the line that if you have Vista, upgrade when you can. But Alison if you are happy with Vista then stick with it. :)

    For a normal user, whats wrong with it?

    If you believe Microsoft, then you should upgrade purely for the bug fixing and performance improvements?

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:45

    I think you definitely need to upgrade!

    I don't have any problems with it. I don't get the big deal.

    Then stick with it ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:46

    If you believe Microsoft, then you should upgrade purely for the bug fixing and performance improvements?

    Why should you pay for miscellaneous "performance improvements"

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:46

    Then stick with it ;)

    hmmmm, people always say "if you like what you have then stick with it" until you say you have vista and then they still say it, but add a ;) after

    :P ;) :D

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:47

    If you believe Microsoft, then you should upgrade purely for the bug fixing and performance improvements?

    Why should you pay for miscellaneous "performance improvements"

    Well the mac peeps paid for snow leopard, so what's the difference?

    But you are right, neither should pay for a big bug fix!

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:47

    For a normal user, whats wrong with it?

    I was a vista fanboy up until I actually got hold if it for myself, my laptop would costantly overheat and you knew the processor and hard drive was working too hard. This is a laptop I purchased September last year and should have been able to run it no problem. Vista is bloated and Microsoft tried to do too much and made it late, compared to 7 which has a smaller "footprint" than Vista. This will allow even older PCs run it quite happily :)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:48

    hmmmm, people always say "if you like what you have then stick with it" until you say you have vista and then they still say it, but add a ;) after

    There's nothing particularly wrong with it. It just looks a little bit different. You get used to it very quickly. I just don't get the issue. I use my computer to go onto the internet, organise media, send emails, and use word. That's about it. I don't need enhanced performance.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:48

    But you are right, neither should pay for a big bug fix!

    they shouldnt have been released with bugs in the first place surely? and if they do have bugs it should be an auto-upgrade not a new OS

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:49

    But you are right, neither should pay for a big bug fix!

    they shouldnt have been released with bugs in the first place surely? and if they do have bugs it should be an auto-upgrade not a new OS

    It is hard to release something without bugs ... but the user should not have to pay the penalty for it!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:49

    There's nothing particularly wrong with it. It just looks a little bit different. You get used to it very quickly. I just don't get the issue. I use my computer to go onto the internet, organise media, send emails, and use word. That's about it. I don't need enhanced performance.

    agreed, and i play games on mine too, there aint nout wrong with it

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:49

    It is hard to release something without bugs ... but the user should not have to pay the penalty for it!

    agreed

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:50

    There's nothing particularly wrong with it. It just looks a little bit different. You get used to it very quickly. I just don't get the issue. I use my computer to go onto the internet, organise media, send emails, and use word. That's about it. I don't need enhanced performance.

    agreed, and i play games on mine too, there aint nout wrong with it

    So what's the fuss then?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:50

    So what's the fuss then?

    theres no fuss from my side, its just the people saying that its totally aweful and a bit of a joke thats the fuss

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:50

    So what's the fuss then?

    I wasn't making a fuss!

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:50

    they shouldnt have been released with bugs in the first place surely? and if they do have bugs it should be an auto-upgrade not a new OS

    Beta tests can pick up most things, but it is only when millions of people use an Operating System that some things come to light. Don't wait for Service Packs, update as and when Microsoft release them.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 12:51

    theres no fuss from my side, its just the people saying that its totally aweful and a bit of a joke thats the fuss

    In my opinion it is very awful but that's just my opinion.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:51

    Beta tests can pick up most things, but it is only when millions of people use an Operating System that some things come to light. Don't wait for Service Packs, update as and when Microsoft release them.

    I know that in reality you can't release a bug free piece of software, but if the point of Windows 7 is to get rid of bugs, then i want it for free because an upgrade like that should be free.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:52

    In my opinion it is very awful but that's just my opinion.

    For your use maybe, but not for me. I've never had any problems with it

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:52

    they shouldnt have been released with bugs in the first place surely? and if they do have bugs it should be an auto-upgrade not a new OS

    essentially without admiting it Microsoft are saying we made mistakes with Vista by releasing 7.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 12:53

    For your use maybe, but not for me. I've never had any problems with it

    That's why I'm moving onto Windows 7 and you're not :P it's just how a person uses said operating system. Vista has conflicted with my studies and whatnot a ridiculous amount of times over the past 2 years as well as actually studying the OS itself. I can't wait to get rid of it to be honest!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:53

    essentially without admiting it Microsoft are saying we made mistakes with Vista by releasing 7.

    They obviously made mistakes because they upset people, it's nothing to do with whether the OS functions properly or not. It made people angry, it's in their interest to fix it.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:54

    Anyways, I'm not into having a computer related discussion. I don't understand how it works and I don't care. It came on my computer, it works, suits me.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:55

    That's why I'm moving onto Windows 7 and you're not :P it's just how a person uses said operating system. Vista has conflicted with my studies and whatnot a ridiculous amount of times over the past 2 years as well as actually studying the OS itself. I can't wait to get rid of it to be honest!

    im sure Windows 7 would add performance and get rid of things that i havent noticed before, but actually the reason im not upgrading is because its an unnecessary expense.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:55

    Anyways, I'm not into having a computer related discussion. I don't understand how it works and I don't care. It came on my computer, it works, suits me.

    :) ditto

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:55

    I know that in reality you can't release a bug free piece of software, but if the point of Windows 7 is to get rid of bugs, then i want it for free because an upgrade like that should be free.

    Microsoft are still updating Vista, and they have added things to Vista that are in 7.

    For your use maybe, but not for me. I've never had any problems with it

    Then keep using it by all means :)

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:55

    So what's the fuss then?

    theres no fuss from my side, its just the people saying that its totally aweful and a bit of a joke thats the fuss

    Sorry - that was badly worded on my part. I meant why do a lot of people say vista is awful?

    Again, sorry for the lazy wording!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:56

    Sorry - that was badly worded on my part. I meant why do a lot of people say vista is awful?

    i have no idea why

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 12:56

    :) ditto

    I'm curious why people keep commenting on conversations they're not interested in having?

    I've seen a couple of times people say: I don't want to talk about it, or similar.

    What's that about?

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 12:57

    Sorry - that was badly worded on my part. I meant why do a lot of people say vista is awful?

    Vista's not as bad now as it was when it released to be fair. When it first came out it was a shambles.

  • RubberGoat (Gavin Brown)21/10/2009 at 12:57

    :) ditto

    I'm curious why people keep commenting on conversations they're not interested in having?

    I've seen a couple of times people say: I don't want to talk about it, or similar.

    What's that about?

    The commenter's paradox?

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:57

    They obviously made mistakes because they upset people, it's nothing to do with whether the OS functions properly or not. It made people angry, it's in their interest to fix it.

    and they tried to do so, released updates by to really fix Vista they needed to do things that couldn't be fixed with patches and service packs.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 12:58

    I'm curious why people keep commenting on conversations they're not interested in having?

    I'm interested in having it, as long as there is actual proof of various things, and not just "its rubbish!! hahaha you've got vista" ;)

  • James21/10/2009 at 12:58

    Sorry - that was badly worded on my part. I meant why do a lot of people say vista is awful?

    the face that is has like an 18% share of the market and people have stayed with XP is why.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 12:59

    What's that about?

    Errrm initially I was interested in why I should upgrade. There might be a reason that was passing me by. I've decided there isn't and am about to go make my lunch.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:01

    Errrm initially I was interested in why I should upgrade. There might be a reason that was passing me by. I've decided there isn't and am about to go make my lunch.

    Fair enough. It came across as if you were dismissing the entire conversation as pointless, which doesn't seem fair.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:01

    I'm interested in having it, as long as there is actual proof of various things, and not just "its rubbish!! hahaha you've got vista" ;)

    Understood. For the record, I liked Vista, it just didn't work.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:01

    Understood. For the record, I liked Vista, it just didn't work.

    What bit?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 13:02

    Fair enough. It came across as if you were dismissing the entire conversation as pointless, which doesn't seem fair.

    Blimey. Discuss what you like.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:03

    What bit?

    Podcasting.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 13:03

    After I've watched this episode of The Office, I may blog a bit on why I'm happy to be moving on just to go into more depth and give a better view why it's beneficial for myself at least :)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:03

    Podcasting.

    Is that because all the best programs are mac programs?

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:05

    Is that because all the best programs are mac programs?

    Not in my view :)

    We spent a long time trying to find mysterious glitches in a setup, only to find Vista was putting them in. It didn't handle audio at all well. Mr C wouldn't do anymore podcasting until we got the Mac, and instantly the problem was solved. I can't argue with that, but I miss my PC.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:07

    We spent a long time trying to find mysterious glitches in a setup, only to find Vista was putting them in. It didn't handle audio at all well. Mr C wouldn't do anymore podcasting until we got the Mac, and instantly the problem was solved. I can't argue with that, but I miss my PC.

    Thats fair enough, and i agree that for certain things it's not great, and you're explaining why you don't like it, which i really like, most people just say its rubbish and move on.

    For me and audacity its fine, its not great, but it does what it needs to do for the moment.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:10

    Thats fair enough, and i agree that for certain things it's not great, and you're explaining why you don't like it, which i really like, most people just say its rubbish and move on.

    I have yet to find any decent personal finance software for a Mac, whereas I had a great program on Windows.

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:18

    BIG rant from Joe on the FIA election, specifically, the criticism he received for saying he doesn't want to cover it:

    Mind you, he's right on all counts.

    ooh, i read now.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:18

    This should only be news if it means we can all get the day off. :)

    MP Richard Burden has tabled a parlimentary motion calling on Westminster to celebrate the achievements of Jenson Button and the Brawn GP team in clinching the 2009 drivers' and constructors' world championships.

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:19

    Well the mac peeps paid for snow leopard, so what's the difference?

    snow leopard is a re-architected operating system. it doesn't appear to fix any bugs.

    But you are right, neither should pay for a big bug fix!

    neither apple nor microsoft charge for patches?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 13:19

    MP Richard Burden has tabled a parlimentary motion calling on Westminster to celebrate the achievements of Jenson Button and the Brawn GP team in clinching the 2009 drivers' and constructors' world championships.

    I saw this earlier, but seeing as the motion doesn't really do much of anything else, it's not news-worthy at all.

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:20

    I'm curious why people keep commenting on conversations they're not interested in having?

    :)

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:21

    I'm curious why people keep commenting on conversations they're not interested in having?

    I've seen a couple of times people say: I don't want to talk about it, or similar.

    What's that about?


    The commenter's paradox?

    step away from the comments, or maybe just read?

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:21

    What bit?

    Podcasting.

    specifically audio.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:21

    step away from the comments, or maybe just read?

    ah no, just reading the comments is even worse, because you want to say stuff but have to resist :D

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:22

    Good afternoon, i have a spare 15 mins so i thought I would have a quick janty though the comments...

    Firstly nobody rememebred where i am :P

    Hehehehe no I erm fell asleep but that's a lovely guinea pig.

    Thankyou, it was carefully selected ;)

    on the customs form she put "gift" and she wanted to know what value to put on it, she was rather panicky about getting it wrong. I hate those customs forms, they told me what was in all my Christmas presents before I opened them :(

    You need to write the descriptions creativly. Instaed of DVD put media, instead of book put document, instead of apron put traditional garment ;)

    Just catching up with the comments. I always miss interesting MFC conversations in the early hours.

    oops sorry!

    Yeah I did. My whole family are Scottish though. If I moved abroad and had kids there, my children could still be British citizens.

    If they are bon somewhere like i was they will have no other option!

    Franck Montagny chez Renault en 2010: des discussions en cours

    That makes a lot of sense, ia asume they planned for grosgean to stay on, getting franck to do a seson would be a good idea while the team rebuilds and restructures

    Joe also has a rant about Bernie's misquoted remarks on Senna.

    I knew there was something odd there

    He says it is the travelling that gets you down. Hmm. No, no, I think it's the sport.

    Im pretty sure i could manage both... Oh what a hard life they all have ;)

    i almost brought up the fact we never buy each other xmas presents but figured it would tip alison over the edge.

    You may be relived to know i might have thought of a present for you MrC ;)

    I love Windows 7, everyone needs it.

    Why? I really dont think they do!

    I'm curious why people keep commenting on conversations they're not interested in having?

    You would think it would easy to stop! Its all dohhickys fault!

    Sorry for the MEGA post!

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 13:26

    I have yet to find any decent personal finance software for a Mac, whereas I had a great program on Windows.

    I have very good things about Mint which you can use on the Mac I think.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:26

    Sorry for the MEGA post!

    Crikey.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:26

    Hope that didnt terrify everyone, it wasnt supposed to be that big!

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:27

    ah no, just reading the comments is even worse, because you want to say stuff but have to resist :D

    i have no interest in tennis. so i don't comment on tennis discussions.

    seems more reasonable than saying "i don't want to talk about it", or to take a line from the other day "can we move on?".

    unless conversation is preventing f1 discussion (which should always take priority), or is in breach of commenting rules (in which case christine should be able to pull rank), why can't we spend all day discussion vista/tennis etc?

    seems strange to me, but by all means tell me i'm wrong.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 13:27

    Hope that didnt terrify everyone, it wasnt supposed to be that big!

    I am very easily frightened.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:28

    You may be relived to know i might have thought of a present for you MrC ;)

    I'm not sure relieved is the right word ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 13:29

    seems strange to me, but by all means tell me i'm wrong.

    I continued a conversation people had been having previously, lost interest in it but didn't want to be rude and just stop replying. You're free to continue discussing,

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:29

    i have no interest in tennis. so i don't comment on tennis discussions.

    oh no, i mean if you've said you're not going to comment, or arent interested, then watching the comments, especially if its a subject you are interested in/have an opinion on, is not a good idea

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:29

    oh no, i mean if you've said you're not going to comment, or arent interested, then watching the comments, especially if its a subject you are interested in/have an opinion on, is not a good idea

    true. hence why i left the other night.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:30

    oh no, i mean if you've said you're not going to comment, or arent interested , then watching the comments, especially if its a subject you are interested in/have an opinion on, is not a good idea

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:30

    I'm not sure relieved is the right word ;)

    Hehe, it is for you as well ;)

    It was a bit of a challenge but only took me 7 hours ;)

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 13:30

    That makes a lot of sense, ia asume they planned for grosgean to stay on, getting franck to do a seson would be a good idea while the team rebuilds and restructures

    I missed Franck in L'Equipe yesterday. Looks like there could be something in this. L'Equipe is usually on the ball.

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule1/breves2009/20091020_083308_franck-montagny-chez-renault.html

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:31

    Hehe, it is for you as well ;)

    Uh oh! I don't want a present!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:31

    I am very easily frightened.

    *plays Aladdin sound track*

    See... all better ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:32

    Uh oh! I don't want a present!

    Dont worry! I havent quite worked out if it is possible yet..

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:32

    Uh oh! I don't want a present!

    me neither. at least nick won't expect anything in return.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:33

    me neither. at least nick won't expect anything in return.

    Yea, but you're the one who was all: you wouldn't be able to find me anything. You've brought this on yourself :)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:33

    me neither. at least nick won't expect anything in return.

    do you not get excited, not even a little bit when your unwrapping something?

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:34

    do you not get excited, not even a little bit when your unwrapping something?

    I find it to usually be a feeling of dread.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:35

    do you not get excited, not even a little bit when your unwrapping something?

    I find it to usually be a feeling of dread.

    :lol: This isnt a present you unwrap ;)

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:35

    :lol: This isnt a present you unwrap ;)

    Is it a baby panda?

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:35

    Yea, but you're the one who was all: you wouldn't be able to find me anything. You've brought this on yourself :)

    tis true. i like guinness, how hard can it be to find a pint of guinness?

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 13:35

    Sorry for going back to the discussion but if you're interested here's that blog post I mentioned on Vista and why it's annoyed me so much over time

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:36

    Is it a baby panda?

    Well it is for mr c too & i dont think he would be too happy with that ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:37

    tis true. i like guinness, how hard can it be to find a pint of guinness?

    Go into any pub or starbucks ;)

    But that isnt a propper present!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:37

    Well it is for mr c too & i dont think he would be too happy with that ;)

    Is it a baby panda holding an iMac?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:37

    Go into any pub or starbucks ;)

    since when do starbucks do guinness?!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:38

    Is it a baby panda holding an iMac?

    LUKEH!!

    ;)

    now that i have to see!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:38

    Is it a baby panda holding an iMac?

    Hehehe you will have to wait and see... but i fear you may be disapointed ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:40

    since when do starbucks do guinness?!

    For quite a while... they had to change the name though ;)

    http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=267163

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:40

    Hehehe you will have to wait and see... but i fear you may be disapointed ;)

    Which is kind of our entire argument against presents! You're worried we won't like it, we're worried we won't like it. Where is the joy of giving in this situation?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:41

    Which is kind of our entire argument against presents! You're worried we won't like it, we're worried we won't like it. Where is the joy of giving in this situation?

    If you don't like it then you just take it back?

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:41

    If you don't like it then you just take it back?

    And that doesn't seem like a waste of time?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:42

    Which is kind of our entire argument against presents! You're worried we won't like it, we're worried we won't like it. Where is the joy of giving in this situation?

    Generally, i'm 95% certain that the person will like what i've bought them

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:42

    And that doesn't seem like a waste of time?

    Generally i get bought things i want, but if i really dont like it then i take it back and get something that i do want.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:45

    Which is kind of our entire argument against presents! You're worried we won't like it, we're worried we won't like it. Where is the joy of giving in this situation?

    Oh i am not wooried about you not liking it, If your worried about that then you havent found the right present!

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:46

    Which is kind of our entire argument against presents! You're worried we won't like it, we're worried we won't like it. Where is the joy of giving in this situation?

    sounds awful.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:46

    Oh i am not wooried about you not liking it, If your worried about that then you havent found the right present!

    Bingo!

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:46

    If you don't like it then you just take it back?

    And that doesn't seem like a waste of time?

    yes. and why should we if we didn't want it in the first place?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:47

    yes. and why should we if we didn't want it in the first place?

    hehehe :D

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:47

    Oh i am not wooried about you not liking it, If your worried about that then you havent found the right present!

    I don't think I would ever be 100% confident someone would like a present I've given them. Even if they said they liked it, they might be lying. Like we have to do when people give us presents.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 13:48

    See... all better ;)

    No! It doesn't work like that! (I'm not singing, honest......)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:48

    I don't think I would ever be 100% confident someone would like a present I've given them. Even if they said they liked it, they might be lying. Like we have to do when people give us presents.

    Thats true... but I am 100% confident you will not dislike it?

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:49

    Thats true... but I am 100% confident you will not dislike it?

    if we don't like it, would you mind if we gave it back and said "you deal with it"?

    would just save the aggro of finding a charity shop etc ;)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:50

    if we don't like it, would you mind if we gave it back and said "you deal with it"?

    Did you have some sort of experience involving clowns and jack in the boxes' as a child?

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 13:51

    now that i have to see!

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/imac-jpg

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:51
  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:51
  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:52
  • Alison21/10/2009 at 13:52

    I have to say I actually understand the gift thing. I hate getting most presents, I know I won't like them and I get all awkward pretending I do.

  • me21/10/2009 at 13:53

    Did you have some sort of experience involving clowns and jack in the boxes' as a child?

    am just being practical. it seems like a massive faff to me. if you want to make christine and i very happy. please go here and donate generously:

    http://sidepodcast.com/playground/donations.php

    not only will you make us happy bunnies, you'll likely extend the life of sidepodcast and make lots of people happy too.

    it's the gift that keeps on giving, and you don't even have to leave you chair.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:56

    if we don't like it, would you mind if we gave it back and said "you deal with it"?

    would just save the aggro of finding a charity shop etc ;)

    dont worry Its not that sort of present ;)

    and no pressies untill Christmas so there is no point worrying abut it!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 13:56

    and no pressies untill Christmas so there is no point worrying abut it!

    Why Christmas?

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 13:57

    Hurrah! Forza 3 has arrived!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 13:58

    it's the gift that keeps on giving, and you don't even have to leave you chair.

    don't spend it all at once ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 13:59

    Why Christmas?

    Its traditional.

    And it gives me plenty of time :D

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 14:00

    Hurrah! Forza 3 has arrived!

    Forza Forza Forza!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 14:00

    And it gives me plenty of time :D

    Awwww

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:00

    don't spend it all at once ;)

    i believe christine has a post coming this week on that very subject.

    transparency is our middle name (sidepodtransparencycast doesn't roll off the tongue so we keep it quiet).

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 14:01

    transparency is our middle name (sidepodtransparencycast doesn't roll off the tongue so we keep it quiet).

    You kept your transparency quiet? Love it :D

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 14:02

    transparency is our middle name (sidepodtransparencycast doesn't roll off the tongue so we keep it quiet).

    :lol: hehe

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 14:06

    Just realized - Donington deadline is on Friday, same day as FIA elections. I hope they both bring good news...

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 14:09

    Just realized - Donington deadline is on Friday, same day as FIA elections. I hope they both bring good news...

    Will we find out the election results friday?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 14:10

    Will we find out the election results friday?

    I'd guess so, yes.

  • James21/10/2009 at 14:11

    About time! First air-conditioned tube train delivered: http://londonist.com/2009/10/first_air-conditioned_train_deliver.php

    :)

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 14:12

    About time! First air-conditioned tube train delivered: http://londoni...ned_train_deliver.php

    I'm shocked your trains normally don't have AC. That's insane! All the subways here and in neighboring countries have AC. I guess it's because we're in the tropics, but even so...

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:13

    You kept your transparency quiet? Love it :D

    #classified

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 14:19

    I'm shocked your trains normally don't have AC. That's insane! All the subways here and in neighboring countries have AC. I guess it's because we're in the tropics, but even so...

    trains do, tubes dont, the original underground lines were built before they even used electric trains!

    Most of the deeper "tube" lines are so narrow they are literaly a tube, there is no space to fit anything other than a very small perfectly shaped train down them!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 14:20

    Just realized - Donington deadline is on Friday, same day as FIA elections. I hope they both bring good news...

    Is donnington getting the race good news?

    I mean it has elevation changes whereas silverstone is flat?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 14:21

    Is donnington getting the race good news?

    No, I want it to go back to Silverstone. :)

    I mean it has elevation changes whereas silverstone is flat?

    Perhaps, but they're nowhere near ready to host a race.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 14:21

    Most of the deeper "tube" lines are so narrow they are literaly a tube, there is no space to fit anything other than a very small perfectly shaped train down them!

    Mmmmm near death experience

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 14:21

    Mmmmm near death experience

    hehe its not that bad!

    Unless you have gotten stuck down there... i guess that would be bad!

  • James21/10/2009 at 14:22

    Most of the deeper "tube" lines are so narrow they are literaly a tube, there is no space to fit anything other than a very small perfectly shaped train down them!

    I hate them, being packed in there with a lot of people isn't a nice experience.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 14:22

    I hate them, being packed in there with a lot of people isn't a nice experience.

    its like the city is giving you a big hug! :D

  • James21/10/2009 at 14:23

    its like the city is giving you a big hug! :D

    Not when you close enough you can smell what they have been eating ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 14:25

    hehe its not that bad!

    It doesn't bother me particularly. I was down there when there were heatwaves in 2006 though. They were literally throwing bottles of water onto the trains as they pulled into the stations.

    There really is no proper ventilation.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:30

    But you are right, neither should pay for a big bug fix!

    neither apple nor microsoft charge for patches?

    Not officially at least ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:32

    seems more reasonable than saying "i don't want to talk about it", or to take a line from the other day "can we move on?".

    In fairness, I think somebody said "Can we move on" the other day because you guys didn't appear to be here and a subject was being pursued in a manner that could have turned a bit Ide...

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 14:33

    Joe has 2 more posts on the FIA calendar. Hurry over and read them.

    Thing is, he has a bit of a rant about the FIA calendar, that it needs to be drawn up sensibly (i.e. less transcontinental flights). But given that there are so many races in Asia, how else can you schedule all of them without doing back-to-back-to-backs?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 14:33

    In fairness, I think somebody said "Can we move on" the other day because you guys didn't appear to be here and a subject was being pursued in a manner that could have turned a bit Ide...

    Not Piquet, then? ;)

  • Daniel21/10/2009 at 14:34

    Is there anyway on these pages that you can quickly locate any replies people have made to something you wrote without going through the whole list of hundreds of posts ? I find it so difficult to follow it :-(

  • James21/10/2009 at 14:34

    #mfc inside the a unibody white MacBook :) http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/new-white-unibody-macbook-torn-apart-aluminum-case-revealed/

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:34

    Sorry for going back to the discussion but if you're interested here's that blog post I mentioned on Vista and why it's annoyed me so much over time

    Thanks Lukeh - I will read it in a mo and see if I was right to be an XP refugee...

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 14:35

    Is there anyway on these pages that you can quickly locate any replies people have made to something you wrote without going through the whole list of hundreds of posts ? I find it so difficult to follow it :-(

    open it up in ye olde comments and use the search?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 14:35

    open it up in ye olde comments and use the search?

    or click read more down the bottom and use the filter box

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:36

    Oh i am not wooried about you not liking it, If your worried about that then you havent found the right present!

    I don't think I would ever be 100% confident someone would like a present I've given them. Even if they said they liked it, they might be lying. Like we have to do when people give us presents.

    That's no reason not to buy a present for somebody!

    If you made the effort to get somebody something, then they should appreciate it - it's not about liking it at all. For the record, when I buy stuff I ask people for a list, and I try and get something and don't worry if they like it or not ;)

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 14:37

    Hehe, just had a fun little battle in a Ford Fiesta on Forza 3. Uploading a movie of it from the game! :D

    When I get a better car I'll start work on Sidepodcar...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:38

    In fairness, I think somebody said "Can we move on" the other day because you guys didn't appear to be here and a subject was being pursued in a manner that could have turned a bit Ide...

    Not Piquet, then? ;)

    Dude, we decided on the podcast not to use Piquet to mean that now!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:39

    If you made the effort to get somebody something, then they should appreciate it - it's not about liking it at all.

    Why should they appreciate it? If they didn't ask for it and they don't want it?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 14:40

    Why should they appreciate it? If they didn't ask for it and they don't want it?

    you dont have to appreciate the gift itself, but do you not appreciate the thought?

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 14:41

    Dude, we decided on the podcast not to use Piquet to mean that now!

    Hahaha! Oh yeaaaaah.

    And on that brainfade bombshell, off to bed for now. Will be back for RG's Quiz tonight. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:41

    If you made the effort to get somebody something, then they should appreciate it - it's not about liking it at all.

    Why should they appreciate it? If they didn't ask for it and they don't want it?

    If you made the effort to get somebody something, then they should appreciate it - it's not about liking it at all.

    Why should they appreciate it? If they didn't ask for it and they don't want it?

    That's a good question. But why are you so against receiving something for free that somebody thought you would like and took the trouble to get you?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 14:41

    you dont have to appreciate the gift itself, but do you not appreciate the thought?

    Unless they felt they had to buy you something. Then they could just have bought any old junk.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:41

    Why should they appreciate it? If they didn't ask for it and they don't want it?

    you dont have to appreciate the gift itself, but do you not appreciate the thought?

    That's exactly what I meant!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:42

    you dont have to appreciate the gift itself, but do you not appreciate the thought?

    Why does the thought have to be a surprise though? Why can't the thought be: I want to get you something, what would you like?

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:42

    That's a good question. But why are you so against receiving something for free that somebody thought you would like and took the trouble to get you?

    Because I don't want it?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 14:43

    Because I don't want it?

    You might want it? If someone knows you well, they'd probably be able to get something you'd like.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:43

    you dont have to appreciate the gift itself, but do you not appreciate the thought?

    Why does the thought have to be a surprise though? Why can't the thought be: I want to get you something, what would you like?

    That's why I ask people for a list first!

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:44

    Joe has 2 more posts on the FIA calendar. Hurry over and read them.

    i.can't.keep.up!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:44

    That's why I ask people for a list first!

    I don't have a problem with that.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 14:45

    i.can't.keep.up!

    when he's on a roll, he's on a roll. :D

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:45

    You might want it? If someone knows you well, they'd probably be able to get something you'd like.

    I might, but why take the risk?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 14:45

    My boyfriend got his mum to send me books. I really liked them even though I hadn't asked for them or talked about it much. Some people just get to know what sorts of things would make you happy.

    Presumably people who know you would know not to just buy you something :P That's probably just as touching.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:46

    Presumably people who know you would know not to just buy you something :P That's probably just as touching.

    Yup. It makes me very happy.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:48

    That's why I ask people for a list first!

    I don't have a problem with that.

    For example, it's my birthday next week - and I have been asked what I want. I know certain people will only buy certain types of stuff - so I know what to tell them.

    Another example is my parents - they have taken a big risk sending me stuff from NZ without even asking. Should I be happy or sad that they didn't ask first? Happy of course, because I know they have put some thought into what I want and I know it's not easy to send it...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:49

    Presumably people who know you would know not to just buy you something :P That's probably just as touching.

    Yup. It makes me very happy.

    Do you not look forward to even a little gift on your birthday or christmas? I know it's not the point of the day, but I really enjoy it personally...

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:49

    Another example is my parents - they have taken a big risk sending me stuff from NZ without even asking. Should I be happy or sad that they didn't ask first? Happy of course, because I know they have put some thought into what I want and I know it's not easy to send it...

    But why do they need to take the risk? Surely you would be just as happy if they'd asked you ahead of time?

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:50

    Do you not look forward to even a little gift on your birthday or christmas? I know it's not the point of the day, but I really enjoy it personally...

    Really not on arbitrary days, no.

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:50

    Another example is my parents - they have taken a big risk sending me stuff from NZ without even asking. Should I be happy or sad that they didn't ask first? Happy of course, because I know they have put some thought into what I want and I know it's not easy to send it...

    random gifts are maybe slightly different. i think my objection, especially with xmas/bday etc, is the assumption that gifts have to be given and received.

    a random signed poster of franck is great for example.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 14:51

    But why do they need to take the risk? Surely you would be just as happy if they'd asked you ahead of time?

    Nope, they've made an effort, and even if they don't get it quite spot on, they'll be close enough to something i'd want and i know my parents so i know they'd have thought about what to get me

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:51

    Another example is my parents - they have taken a big risk sending me stuff from NZ without even asking. Should I be happy or sad that they didn't ask first? Happy of course, because I know they have put some thought into what I want and I know it's not easy to send it...

    But why do they need to take the risk? Surely you would be just as happy if they'd asked you ahead of time?

    I would - but they chose just to send stuff - which I didn't even expect them to considering the circumstances. They could have just asked Mrs. Goat to buy something on their behalf ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:52

    But why do they need to take the risk? Surely you would be just as happy if they'd asked you ahead of time?

    Nope, they've made an effort, and even if they don't get it quite spot on, they'll be close enough to something i'd want and i know my parents so i know they'd have thought about what to get me

    I think after 28 birthdays and Christmases, they would know what sort of stuff I am into ;)

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:52

    a random signed poster of franck is great for example.

    That is fantastic! But also, Steve asked if he could send it to me and I said yes. I had the choice.

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:53

    That is fantastic! But also, Steve asked if he could send it to me and I said yes. I had the choice.

    ooh. good point.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:53

    random gifts are maybe slightly different. i think my objection, especially with xmas/bday etc, is the assumption that gifts have to be given and received.

    I agree with that - I would never ask people to get me stuff - but I do love to receive it of course ;)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 14:53

    I think after 28 birthdays and Christmases, they would know what sort of stuff I am into ;)

    exactly!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:54

    a random signed poster of franck is great for example.

    That is fantastic! But also, Steve asked if he could send it to me and I said yes. I had the choice.

    But why did he have to ask?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 14:54

    Why does the thought have to be a surprise though? Why can't the thought be: I want to get you something, what would you like?

    Because thats the fun bit!

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 14:54

    I'm used to not getting gifts on my birthday - such are the joys of people forgetting because of new years/spending all their money at Christmas ;)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 14:54

    But why did he have to ask?

    address

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:54

    But why did he have to ask?

    Otherwise he wouldn't have known where to send it to?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 14:54

    Joe has 2 more posts on the FIA calendar. Hurry over and read them.

    Guess which option i suggested ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:54

    Do you not look forward to even a little gift on your birthday or christmas? I know it's not the point of the day, but I really enjoy it personally...

    Really not on arbitrary days, no.

    I'm struggling to understand why. Do you never see something you'd like to have, for example?

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:55

    I think after 28 birthdays and Christmases, they would know what sort of stuff I am into ;)

    exactly!

    not my case. not at all.

    how do you buy music for a person that has no shelves and you have no way of knowing what they own? same with films. i'd hate it if someone gave me an actua dvd. i might punch them.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:55

    I'm struggling to understand why. Do you never see something you'd like to have, for example?

    Yup.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 14:55

    You'd have liked the poster just as much if it had turned up on your doorstep (ignoring creepy stalker concerns....)

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:56

    I'm struggling to understand why. Do you never see something you'd like to have, for example?

    yup. and then we save up and buy it.

    why wait for a certain day on a certain month?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:56

    But why did he have to ask?

    Otherwise he wouldn't have known where to send it to?

    Hmm, I thought that there weren't many houses on Rockall ;)

    But assuming he did, would he still have to have asked? Could he not just have said "Here Christine, have a surprise pressie I think you'll like"?

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 14:57

    Hmm, I thought that there weren't many houses on Rockall ;)

    Ah remember, they live the other side of Rockall now :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:57

    I'm struggling to understand why. Do you never see something you'd like to have, for example?

    yup. and then we save up and buy it.

    why wait for a certain day on a certain month?

    Because it makes it special, and it's nice to receive gifts isn't it?

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:57

    But assuming he did, would he still have to have asked? Could he not just have said "Here Christine, have a surprise pressie I think you'll like"?

    wouldn't it be a hassle? you'd have to go to the post office to collect it, and you wouldn't know what it was, and you'd have to take time off work or skip lunch to do so.

    hassle.

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:57

    Because it makes it special, and it's nice to receive gifts isn't it?

    nope.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:58

    You'd have liked the poster just as much if it had turned up on your doorstep (ignoring creepy stalker concerns....)

    In this instance, yes. But what if it had been a signed poster of someone I didn't like anymore. I'm quite fickle. Last week I said I was mad at Franck, this week I'm not.

    Then I'm stuck with a poster I don't want, and have no use for, and I have to be grateful for it?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 14:58

    I'm struggling to understand why. Do you never see something you'd like to have, for example?

    Yup.

    But you're not explaining why, if someone said "Christine, what would you like for Christmas" you wouldn't say "A stuffed panda toy to go with Jia-Tou"?

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 14:59

    Because it makes it special, and it's nice to receive gifts isn't it?

    It's nice to have new stuff. Why does it have to be a surprise gift?

  • me21/10/2009 at 14:59

    But you're not explaining why, if someone said "Christine, what would you like for Christmas" you wouldn't say "A stuffed panda toy to go with Jia-Tou"?

    ooh. ask me, ask me.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 15:00

    But you're not explaining why, if someone said "Christine, what would you like for Christmas" you wouldn't say "A stuffed panda toy to go with Jia-Tou"?

    ooh. ask me, ask me.

    You are asked, my friend ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:01

    You are asked, my friend ;)

    i would say. i would like donations for sidepodcast, to make spc bigger and better for everybody in 2010:

    http://sidepodcast.com/playground/donations.php

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 15:04

    But you're not explaining why, if someone said "Christine, what would you like for Christmas" you wouldn't say "A stuffed panda toy to go with Jia-Tou"?

    I don't want anything "for Christmas". If someone wants to buy me something I have my eye on, that's lovely and thoughtful and shouldn't be constrained to a particular day.

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:04

    I don't want anything "for Christmas". If someone wants to buy me something I have my eye on, that's lovely and thoughtful and shouldn't be constrained to a particular day.

    marry me :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 15:05

    I don't want anything "for Christmas". If someone wants to buy me something I have my eye on, that's lovely and thoughtful and shouldn't be constrained to a particular day.

    Do you guys actually celebrate Christmas or do you just not like the expectation of presents there?

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:07

    Do you guys actually celebrate Christmas or do you just not like the expectation of presents there?

    last year we put out a video: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/12/25/

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 15:07

    Off on a tangent, here's an article about one of the Mercedes drivers who flipped their car at Le Mans - very interesting stuff.

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 15:07

    Do you guys actually celebrate Christmas or do you just not like the expectation of presents there?

    I used to run a website called Say No To Christmas.

    Same goes for any of those 'special' days though.

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:07

    last year we put out a video: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/12/25/

    year before: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/12/25/

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:08

    year before: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/12/25/

    we ought to do something more original.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 15:08

    I used to run a website called Say No To Christmas.

    What bit of christmas are you against?

    Are you against people celebrating it if they celebrate its actual meaning?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 15:08

    Do you guys actually celebrate Christmas or do you just not like the expectation of presents there?

    I used to run a website called Say No To Christmas.

    Same goes for any of those 'special' days though.

    So no Turkey, tree or figgy pudding? No family visits etc?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 15:09

    year before: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/12/25/

    we ought to do something more original.

    NOTHING tops the 12 days of F1 Christmas ;)

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 15:09

    we ought to do something more original.

    It was public demand!

  • Christine21/10/2009 at 15:10

    What bit of christmas are you against?

    Personally, I'm against having to do things because society expects it. I don't have a problem with Christmas itself.

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:10

    What bit of christmas are you against?

    i'm personally not "against" any of it. people should all do what makes them happy.

    Are you against people celebrating it if they celebrate its actual meaning?

    neither. last year we did party and drink and stuff. with sidepodpeeps and with family.

    we just didn't give or receive presents.

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:11

    we just didn't give or receive presents.

    *except for at the sidepodparty

  • rowley21/10/2009 at 15:11

    Hello all.

    Some German news:

    Herman Tilke is retiring. Really.

    Stop, stop. Don't reach for the champagne yet., He is retiring as a race-car driver. He usually races in a Ford GT around the Nordschleife. But this was his last season.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 15:12

    Herman Tilke is retiring. Really.

    YEEEAA-

    Stop, stop. Don't reach for the champagne yet., He is retiring as a race-car driver. He usually races in a Ford GT around the Nordschleife. But this was his last season.

    -ARGRGH.

  • RG21/10/2009 at 15:12

    Stop, stop. Don't reach for the champagne yet., He is retiring as a race-car driver. He usually races in a Ford GT around the Nordschleife. But this was his last season.

    You raised my hopes and dashed them brilliantly sir.

    Hey all.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 15:13

    Hmmmm would it work for you if someone selected what they'd like to get you, asked you if you'd like it then bought and gave it to you?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 15:13

    Herman Tilke is retiring. Really.

    Martin Haven told me off on Twitter for having a go at him the other day. He reckons it's more the FIA's fault than his...

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 15:14

    Martin Haven told me off on Twitter for having a go at him the other day. He reckons it's more the FIA's fault than his...

    You got told off by Martin Haven?

    Thats pretty cool

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 15:15

    Hm. The editing is exactly the same as Forza 2.

    I should be happy because I know how to use it but... hell if I wanted the same I'd have just stuck with it... well that's stupid.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 15:15

    Martin Haven told me off on Twitter for having a go at him the other day. He reckons it's more the FIA's fault than his...

    *cough cough counsulting cough fee cough*

    I dont know where thse coughs come from, i just see something suspicious, develop a conspiracy theory and it sets them right off!

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 15:16

    Stop, stop. Don't reach for the champagne yet., He is retiring as a race-car driver. He usually races in a Ford GT around the Nordschleife. But this was his last season.

    Every time I read that he races on the Nordschleife it blows my mind that he produces such pathetic circuits. You would think it would give him some idea of what was required to make a half decent track

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 15:16

    Hm. The editing is exactly the same as Forza 2.

    I should be happy because I know how to use it but... hell if I wanted the same I'd have just stuck with it... well that's stupid.

    Why change what works though?

  • rowley21/10/2009 at 15:16

    Martin Haven told me off on Twitter for having a go at him the other day. He reckons it's more the FIA's fault than his...

    I tend to agree with Haven on this.

    Tilke is an easy target for having a go at. FIA regulations are also to blame.

  • RG21/10/2009 at 15:17

    Every time I read that he races on the Nordschleife it blows my mind that he produces such pathetic circuits. You would think it would give him some idea of what was required to make a half decent track

    Theory, the day after he drove roundthe Nordschliefe, he designed Turn 8.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 15:17

    Why change what works though?

    Yeah but it was quite fiddly... it took me many hours to do a good livery on that.

    You'd think going from one game to another they've improve it and add new features. There's plenty of stuff they could do to change it!

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 15:18

    Martin Haven told me off on Twitter for having a go at him the other day. He reckons it's more the FIA's fault than his...

    Some of it is the FIA's fault and some of it is the fault of people who decide they want a race track on an entirely unsuitable piece of land like Valencia. We know there is great land close to the city where they could have made something special but they wanted a kart track.

  • rowley21/10/2009 at 15:18

    Every time I read that he races on the Nordschleife it blows my mind that he produces such pathetic circuits. You would think it would give him some idea of what was required to make a half decent track

    He should study the work of Dutch circuit desiger Hans Hugenholtz.

    All of his tracks are brilliant.

    Suzuka, Zandvoort, Jarama and Zolder.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)21/10/2009 at 15:18

    Why change what works though?

    Yeah but it was quite fiddly... it took me many hours to do a good livery on that.

    You'd think going from one game to another they've improve it and add new features. There's plenty of stuff they could do to change it!

    Fair call...

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:18

    Hmmmm would it work for you if someone selected what they'd like to get you, asked you if you'd like it then bought and gave it to you?

    i guess so (assuming you're asking me). presuming that nothing was expected in return, and it wasn't given specifically on dec 25th, birthday or whatever and it wasn't hassle to collect etc.

    really, it's better to say no presents though. surely?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 15:19

    really, it's better to say no presents though. surely?

    Yeah definitely if you don't want them. Sometimes people like to give though.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 15:20

    Fair call...

    It's the OS argument all over again :D

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 15:28

    He should study the work of Dutch circuit desiger Hans Hugenholtz.

    All of his tracks are brilliant.

    Suzuka, Zandvoort, Jarama and Zolder.

    Hugenholz did great tracks. I didn't know about Jarama and Zolder though.

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 15:33

    Thats true... but I am 100% confident you will not dislike it?

    I know what he's bought you... Unlimted bandwith baby ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 15:37

    I know what he's bought you... Unlimted bandwith baby ;)

    I havent bought them a baby regardless of its bandwidth!

  • James21/10/2009 at 15:37

    has this been mentioned at all?

    STR: Next year's drivers not confirmed yet

    The Scuderia Toro Rosso drivers are not yet confirmed for next season according to the team. Some reports on the internet said the team would continue with both Buemi and Alguersuari in 2010 but a team spokesperson confirmed to GPUpdate.net the team has yet to decide its drivers for next season.

    http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/10/01/str-next-year-s-drivers-not-confirmed-yet/

  • James21/10/2009 at 15:40

    I realise it was 20 days ago :), but it was news to me. I though STR said they weren't changing next year.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 15:51

    has this been mentioned at all?

    STR: Next year's drivers not confirmed yet

    The Scuderia Toro Rosso drivers are not yet confirmed for next season according to the team. Some reports on the internet said the team would continue with both Buemi and Alguersuari in 2010 but a team spokesperson confirmed to GPUpdate.net the team has yet to decide its drivers for next season.

    http://f1.gpup...rs-not-confirmed-yet/

    A senior member of the team Mr Berger said "I miss Bourdais"

    ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 15:51

    I havent bought them a baby regardless of its bandwidth!

    Good call.

  • startledbunny21/10/2009 at 15:54

    Hi guys.

    I have a quick question, where do I go to download the Desktop Doohickey app? I thought it was in the playground.

    I'm probably not looking hard enough. Is it because I haven't taken the wrapper off yet? ;)

  • James21/10/2009 at 15:57

    Hi guys.

    I have a quick question, where do I go to download the Desktop Doohickey app? I thought it was in the playground.

    I'm probably not looking hard enough. Is it because I haven't taken the wrapper off yet? ;)

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Desktop+Doohickey

    :)

  • me21/10/2009 at 15:59

    Hi guys.

    I have a quick question, where do I go to download the Desktop Doohickey app? I thought it was in the playground.

    I'm probably not looking hard enough. Is it because I haven't taken the wrapper off yet? ;)


    http://wiki.si...age/Desktop+Doohickey

    :)

    good point though. it should be there too.

  • startledbunny21/10/2009 at 15:59

    Thank you very much, I can't believe I didn't think of the wiki.

    *facepalm*

    :(

  • James21/10/2009 at 15:59

    Thank you very much, I can't believe I didn't think of the wiki.

    *facepalm*

    :(

    the wiki is awesome :D

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:00

    EA have released a video of the game which seems to be largely based on Joes Book

    http://kotaku.com/5386690/the-saboteur-just-getting-started

    Maybe it will help him get his book picked up by a major publisher?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:03

    James has pointed out some other news from the FIA.

    In the future engines will be restricted by efficency rather than capacity

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 16:09

    In the future engines will be restricted by efficency rather than capacity

    So what happened to the cost cutting then? The FIA clearly can't do joined up thinking. Teams are going to spend a fortune developing new engines and very high tech engines as well as energy recovery systems. This has just blown apart all the cost saving that has been hyped to death.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:12

    So what happened to the cost cutting then? The FIA clearly can't do joined up thinking. Teams are going to spend a fortune developing new engines and very high tech engines as well as energy recovery systems. This has just blown apart all the cost saving that has been hyped to death.

    It isnt for F1 untill 2013 though.

    I assume the cost of developing piston V8's must be stupidly high, i think the guy at the lecture we went to mentioned it.

    They have been so over developed, that it costs millions and millions just to improve them by 2% per year.

    If they are so intent on wasting huge amounts of cash wouldnt they be better off using it on something usefull?

    Besides this is engines, i dont think they come under the cost capping?

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 16:14

    I have to say that in the "doing things on a special day" thing I am closer to Mr and Mrs C than it seems some others. Katherine and I do exchange gifts but usually something very silly. Katherine last Christmas gave me a squeezable plastic mini snail, which when you squeeze it its tongue pops out. It may not say Christmas to you, but it said Christmas to me.

    We do however have a big meal on the day with family and/or friends, which I cook. Partially, I imagine, because there isn't much else to do. Then we settle down to watch the traditional Christmas day slightly disappointing Doctor Who episode. Birthdays can sometimes pass without much in the way of much, mainly because you can't really guarantee an episode of Doctor Who ;)

    Partially in my mind it seems odd to say, "I don't like you enough to get you this until I was forced to by tradition". Not that I want this to sound harsh, and I have absolutely no problem with people doing whatever they like :)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 16:17

    I'm not a big gift person. It'd depend on who it was though. Some people really like them. My mum would cry for months if I didn't get her a present.

    I told my bf I didn't want a birthday present so we went away together somewhere nice. That was better for me.

  • James21/10/2009 at 16:17

    We do however have a big meal on the day with family and/or friends, which I cook. Partially, I imagine, because there isn't much else to do. Then we settle down to watch the traditional Christmas day slightly disappointing Doctor Who episode. Birthdays can sometimes pass without much in the way of much, mainly because you can't really guarantee an episode of Doctor Who ;)

    This years christmas episode should be a good one ;)

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 16:18

    This years christmas episode should be a good one ;)

    It'll be sad :(

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 16:19

    I told my bf I didn't want a birthday present so we went away together somewhere nice. That was better for me.

    I also told him where I wanted to go. I'm beginning to sound alarmingly like Mr and Mrs C as well :P

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 16:19

    I assume the cost of developing piston V8's must be stupidly high, i think the guy at the lecture we went to mentioned it.

    They already exist though and with all the limits such as 18k rpm developing new engines is a controlled cost. This new rule just added a zero to the cost of developing a new engine

  • James21/10/2009 at 16:20

    It'll be sad :(

    Well the second part will, the christmas one will be a cliffhanger :)

    Also I've heard that The Waters of Mars could be airing on Halloween ;)

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:20

    I have to say that in the "doing things on a special day" thing I am closer to Mr and Mrs C than it seems some others. Katherine and I do exchange gifts but usually something very silly. Katherine last Christmas gave me a squeezable plastic mini snail, which when you squeeze it its tongue pops out. It may not say Christmas to you, but it said Christmas to me.

    My presents are always a little quirky, and quite often silly.. dont worry noone i know gets anything too practical... I decided to get this for my stepsister for christmas this year after being tipped onto it on twiiter last night http://www.petsathome.com/find/category-is-1+cat/category-is-1k+toys/category-is-1k03+interactive/product-is-1105801

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:22

    I'm not a big gift person. It'd depend on who it was though. Some people really like them. My mum would cry for months if I didn't get her a present.

    i will be hurt if I dont get one either, after all that help with your boiler ;)

  • startledbunny21/10/2009 at 16:22

    Wasn't that taken on this year in The Apprentice UK? They had trouble selling them in a task.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:22

    I told my bf I didn't want a birthday present so we went away together somewhere nice. That was better for me.

    I also told him where I wanted to go. I'm beginning to sound alarmingly like Mr and Mrs C as well :P

    That is kind of a present though, i generally prefer something to do rather than something to open. For example, my girlfriend bought me and her tickets to see High School Musical, the musical, for my birthday. Things that create memories are what i like.

    I sound like a right sadact ;)

  • startledbunny21/10/2009 at 16:23

    Just like to say, can't post blockquotes on doohickey as I thought it could

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:23

    Wasn't that taken on this year in The Apprentice UK? They had trouble selling them in a task.

    yup!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 16:23

    I prefer the gift of time and attention.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:23

    I sound like a right sadact ;)

    You have a better excuse than RG, other than his love for Miley!

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 16:23

    That is kind of a present though, i generally prefer something to do rather than something to open. For example, my girlfriend bought me and her tickets to see High School Musical, the musical, for my birthday. Things that create memories are what i like.

    They made a musical of High School Musical?

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 16:24

    I prefer the gift of time and attention.

    Hear hear

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:24

    They made a musical of High School Musical?

    yup :D

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:24

    You have a better excuse than RG, other than his love for Miley!

    *cough*

    I love High School Musical

    *cough*

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:24

    I may have to apologise to RG for missing his quiz... I have been co-opted into going to the depths of south london this evening...

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 16:25

    I may have to apologise to RG for missing his quiz... I have been co-opted into going to the depths of south london this evening...

    I live in the depths of south london, well the heights.

  • Alex Andronov21/10/2009 at 16:26

    I love High School Musical

    I have not seen it, and so I shall not comment ;)

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 16:26

    I may have to apologise to RG for missing his quiz... I have been co-opted into going to the depths of south london this evening...

    ah yes RG's quiz! I look forward to it!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:26

    I have not seen it, and so I shall not comment ;)

    :D

    #shhhhh

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:26

    I live in the depths of south london, well the heights.

    I am going to a mystical place called streatham common

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 16:27

    I've fallen in love with James Morrison. He's singing Michael Jackson songs. I think I might be in heaven.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:27

    ah yes RG's quiz! I look forward to it!

    Please everyone do it to make up for my absence!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:29

    I love High School Musical

    I havent seen it, but it wont be as good as this

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 16:29

    Please everyone do it to make up for my absence!

    Awww I'm very bad at quizzes. I do have an excuse though, I'm off out to meet my sister and no there will be no papier mache involved!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:29

    Awww I'm very bad at quizzes. I do have an excuse though, I'm off out to meet my sister and no there will be no papier mache involved!

    not even a little?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:30

    YEYY!!!

    Podcast edited, it's over 20 minutes long :D

    wiiiiiiiiiinner

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 16:30

    not even a little?

    We'd get kicked out. I think it might even go as far as barred....

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 16:31

    We’re halfway through the week – how’s it going for you? {Original entry}

    It's been fairly good, if rather busy. My placement has offered plenty to do, I nearly got a perfect practise test in my Medical Word Processing (we'll gloss over the missed paragraph at the end) and my bed-related injury is healing well.

    I'd still like to know when I'm getting my blog back, though.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 16:31

    Podcast edited, it's over 20 minutes long :D

    Well done Jon!

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 16:32

    Tomorrow is Windows day. I hear Windows crumbles a lot. Will you be making Windows crumble? {Comment #3}

    Wouldn't that taste a bit... ...sharp?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:32

    I'd still like to know when I'm getting my blog back, though.

    Where did you leave it?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:33

    Well done Jon!

    Thanks!! My favourite one to make so far

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:33

    We'd get kicked out. I think it might even go as far as barred....

    Hehe, maybe not then! But dont forget about it!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 16:33

    wiiiiiiiiiinner

    Jon FTW!!!!

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 16:34

    Wasn't that taken on this year in The Apprentice UK? They had trouble selling them in a task.

    yes

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 16:34

    Hehe, maybe not then! But dont forget about it!

    You certainly won't! I'm regretting ever mentioning it :P

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 16:35

    Awww I'm very bad at quizzes. I do have an excuse though, I'm off out to meet my sister and no there will be no papier mache involved!

    BOO

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 16:35

    but people who can’t figure a vcr aren’t really of interest to people who make podcasts everyday. {Comment #93}

    But I can't figure out a VCR and you appear to be interested in me...

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 16:35

    Wouldn't that taste a bit... ...sharp?

    :D

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 16:43

    my logic (and it may be flawed):

    - ooh itunes

    - ooh i can listen to and buy music

    - ooh i can buy and rent movies

    - ooh and download free podcasts (if they can ever find them hidden in itunes 9)

    if you get that far. why would you then go buy a dvd? {Comment #123}

    In my case:

    - Itunes is an awful website for me to use because it doesn't even load half the time and is fairly tricky for me to navigate when it does load (they could learn a lot about functionality and accessibility from you)

    - It's more complicated for me to purchase stuff using a card online than it is for me to walk into town and pay in cash (bearing in mind that getting money out of a convenient ATM is a seven-button process, including the passcode)

    - Rental of movies is almost invariably cheaper at the library (at least in the area I live in) than online unless you happen to watch a very large number of movies

    - I don't need to mess about with DRM on a DVD - I can put it into my DVD and know it will play (I've had problems with iPlayer downloads in the past where the licences haven't worked for no apparent reason and re-downloading hasn't helped).

    - When I'm bored of the DVD, I can either give it to someone else who'll enjoy it more or sell it on (in which case I spread enjoyment and get cash). That's not really feasible with a paid download.

  • RG21/10/2009 at 16:45

    Please everyone do it to make up for my absence!

    Well, more the merrier :)

  • RG21/10/2009 at 16:46

    Awww I'm very bad at quizzes. I do have an excuse though, I'm off out to meet my sister and no there will be no papier mache involved!

    If you didn't have an excuse, then there was no reason cos like all questions are 2000 onwards.

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 16:46

    don’t know. i spoke to someone yesterday who claimed they’d just rented 5 films from blockbuster.

    i was staggered they were still in business. {Comment #141}

    Considering that they charge at least three times as much as the local library does, so am I!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:46

    Levelator is AMAZING!!!!

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 16:48

    iTunes voucher? {Comment #143}

    Only someone who didn't know me very well would get me an iTunes voucher. Apart from the aforementioned difficulties with me using their site, I prefer books (and therefore book tokens)...

  • me21/10/2009 at 16:48

    Partially in my mind it seems odd to say, "I don't like you enough to get you this until I was forced to by tradition". Not that I want this to sound harsh, and I have absolutely no problem with people doing whatever they like :)

    i agree with this ^^

    :)

  • me21/10/2009 at 16:51

    Levelator is AMAZING!!!!

    true story.

  • me21/10/2009 at 16:51

    Just like to say, can't post blockquotes on doohickey as I thought it could

    wassup sir?

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 16:52

    Evening. Post Office staff are all mad.

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 16:52

    if i wanted something, wouldn’t i just buy it? why would i sit around hoping someone would buy exactly what i always wanted?

    what are the chances? {Comment #170}

    Depends how rich you are. In my case, the chances of a good friend buying what I really wanted (especially given appropriate clues) is considerably higher than the probability of me being able to afford it!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:53

    true story.

    it has minor issues with a few bits, sounds like its raining outside in bits ;) but i was alot quieter than he was, so i chuked it in and it came out pretty good!!

    thank you!

  • me21/10/2009 at 16:54

    it has minor issues with a few bits, sounds like its raining outside in bits ;) but i was alot quieter than he was, so i chuked it in and it came out pretty good!!

    have found it struggles with jingles and music too.

    thank you!

    das what we is here for :)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 16:56

    have found it struggles with jingles and music too.

    the intro music it was absolutely fine with, the outro music has words and music so am interested to see what happens there....

  • Chris21/10/2009 at 16:59

    Evening all. Sorry it's been a while, been very busy! How is everyone?

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 17:00

    Evening all. Sorry it's been a while, been very busy! How is everyone?

    CHRIS!!!

  • RG21/10/2009 at 17:00

    Evening all. Sorry it's been a while, been very busy! How is everyone?

    Yo Chris. I be good cheers.

  • Chris21/10/2009 at 17:01

    CHRIS!!!

    Ah!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 17:05

    Overall it's pretty good, a few niggles but am happy with it!

    Now to send it to Mr Hohenthal himself for approval

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 17:08

    I am currently writing a to-do list for the rest of the year. So far I think I have about 3 years worth of work listed. Gulp! {Comment #288}

    Mine basically reads:

    - Get to the end of the year

    - Get my blog working again

    - Complete my placement successfully

    - Get a job (at employer providing said placement would be good)

    - Complete NaNoWriMo

    - Complete NaBloPoMo

    - Sort out Christmas-related stuff

    - Get a working soundcard in my computer

  • me21/10/2009 at 17:09

    - Get my blog working again

    have you considered wordpress.com / other hosting? we may have discussed this before, i forget.

  • RG21/10/2009 at 17:10

    - Complete NaNoWriMo

    Saw that e-mail yesterday, contemplated it, found an awesome excuse to not do it, and breathed a sigh of relief.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 17:17

    - Complete NaNoWriMo

    - Complete NaBloPoMo

    Oh man!! I want to do both!

    That would be totally awesome, i may do it in the summer when i have some spare time. November is the worst time for me to be doing that kind of thing, i have 2 assignments to be in, 1 to be started, plus 30 blog posts and a 50,000 word novel..

    I don't even know what i'd write about!! But i totally want to do it :(

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 17:17

    BluRay equivalent 1080P quality - £70

    http://www.ama...1256084670&sr=8-1

    For when Bassano re-appears, how does this work? I looked at one a while back but ruled it out on grounds of confusion, cost, and not having a good telly. Looks like the cost has come down.

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 17:21

    It’s England with all its wee towns and regions and things, woo confusing! {Comment #400}

    I'm from Derbyshire if that helps.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 17:32

    Oh man!! I want to do both!

    Ok, am going to do it :D

  • Janna21/10/2009 at 17:33

    Hello all, for those in the UK, happy Trafalgar day. On the present/gift discussion I think the focus has been on the receiver. There is a lot of joy in giving and that said, there is obviously much joy to be had in giving the gift that gives back by donating to Sidepodcast ;)

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 17:34

    Very good. The person who orders the stationery has saved up all the free chocolate boxes and biscuits they send, and is running a lucky dip for everyone to get something.

    We do that at Christmas, although there don't seem to be as many things this year.

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 17:36

    It is only until MFC gets it's own doohickey.

    That's gonna get confusing......

    They could be slightly differently-coloured. Alt-tabbing or Ctrl-PgUp between the two, with many of the same commenters, would get confusing.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 17:41

    I am heading out into the deep dark night - other lyrics are available

    Back later unless Alison's groundless fears are real.

  • Chris21/10/2009 at 17:42

    They could be slightly differently-coloured. Alt-tabbing or Ctrl-PgUp between the two, with many of the same commenters, would get confusing.

    The sides of the spc doohickey are green. Maybe MFC's can be blue or something.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 17:46

    Simon aarons gp diary is up... telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorsport/formulaonediary/6395954/Brazilian-Grand-Prix-F1-diary.html I don't know if that link will work... sorry I am on the train!

  • me21/10/2009 at 17:47

    Hello all, for those in the UK, happy Trafalgar day. On the present/gift discussion I think the focus has been on the receiver. There is a lot of joy in giving and that said, there is obviously much joy to be had in giving the gift that gives back by donating to Sidepodcast ;)

    (hearts) janna ;)

  • me21/10/2009 at 17:59

    i certain lady i know has been working hard this evening, and now if you visit the archives playground page:

    http://sidepodcast.com/playground/archives.php

    you'll find an added "authors" section listing anyone who's written for spc.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 18:00

    you'll find an added "authors" section listing anyone who's written for spc.

    awesome!!! thats cool :) thankinya

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 18:03

    you'll find an added "authors" section listing anyone who's written for spc.

    Good stuff :D

    Impressive as ever!

  • James21/10/2009 at 18:03

    I have my own Stig :) http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/img-0613-jpg

  • me21/10/2009 at 18:04

    Good stuff :D

    Impressive as ever!

    had no idea there were so many!

  • me21/10/2009 at 18:05

    I have my own Stig :) http://drop.io...st/asset/img-0613-jpg

    hehe! how come?

  • James21/10/2009 at 18:05

    i certain lady i know has been working hard this evening, and now if you visit the archives playground page:

    http://sidepod...ayground/archives.php

    you'll find an added "authors" section listing anyone who's written for spc.

    I heart the playground :)

  • James21/10/2009 at 18:07

    hehe! how come?

    My mum came home with him from the shops, he's supposed to be a stress toy. I don't have the heart to squeeze him though :)

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 18:14

    My mum came home with him from the shops, he's supposed to be a stress toy. I don't have the heart to squeeze him though :)

    Some say that he uses small figurines of himself for mind control and some say that the figurines were created after a freak accident during the filming of "Honey i shrunk the kids"

  • me21/10/2009 at 18:15

    Some say that he uses small figurines of himself for mind control and some say that the figurines were created after a freak accident during the filming of "Honey i shrunk the kids"

    :D

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 18:15

    I don't want anything "for Christmas". If someone wants to buy me something I have my eye on, that's lovely and thoughtful and shouldn't be constrained to a particular day.

    I'm assuming this convo ending a while ago but I like this plan. Actually I don't mind a few presents if the people getting them know I want them, it is the cards I think are the waste.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 18:17

    It is the cards I think are the waste.

    I disagree and agree.

    Often if i get a card where i can tell that the person has really thought about what they've written, then it can mean more to me then any present, but cards for cards sake are a bit pointless

  • Janna21/10/2009 at 18:22

    Actually I don't mind a few presents if the people getting them know I want them, it is the cards I think are the waste.

    I agree when it's at Christmas. I don't send Christmas cards, I send the money to a charity who looks after the homeless as they need extra support at that time of year. If someone complains I tell them what I've done instead. It's amazing how many people you see every day at work & that you wish a Happy Christmas in person get annoyed that you did not reciprocate their (extremely cheap & the same as everyone else's) card.

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 18:24

    Often if i get a card where i can tell that the person has really thought about what they've written, then it can mean more to me then any present, but cards for cards sake are a bit pointless

    Unexpected cards are great - I had one from Mum when I got my accountancy results even though I didn't pass everything, it meant a lot.

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 18:26

    To bring it vaguely to racing... anyone want to be a journo?

    http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=162067589487&ref=mf

    I have no idea what this site is like.

  • me21/10/2009 at 18:27

    I don't send Christmas cards, I send the money to a charity who looks after the homeless as they need extra support at that time of year. If someone complains I tell them what I've done instead.

    i like that idea.

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 18:32

    I don't send Christmas cards, I send the money to a charity who looks after the homeless as they need extra support at that time of year. If someone complains I tell them what I've done instead.

    i like that idea.

    I do to, but I can't deal with the awkward situation so usually roll over and get a box of little cards, often the charity ones.

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 18:34

    Wow. I am trying to change my address via online banking because call centres annoy me. Can I log in to change my address? Yes, I can log in... but it takes me to a page where I can download a form to fill in and post back to them.

  • Janna21/10/2009 at 18:35

    I do to, but I can't deal with the awkward situation so usually roll over and get a box of little cards, often the charity ones.

    The most difficult year is the first one when you have to keep explaining. Once you get through that, people remember and even tell new people they won't get a card from you. I'm going to suggest this year at work that they get one large card everyone can sign rather than giving individual cards. Not sure I'll get very far but will try.

  • Janna21/10/2009 at 18:40

    Yes, I can log in... but it takes me to a page where I can download a form to fill in and post back to them.

    Modern technology meets old style bureaucracy, plus, how can you post it to them at the moment?

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 18:43

    Modern technology meets old style bureaucracy, plus, how can you post it to them at the moment?

    I called them anyway. "Because you also have a current account you need to visit your branch to change your address, for security reasons." That's tomorrow's lunch gone then!

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 19:24

    PF Quiztime

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 19:25

    PF Quiztime

    Link?

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 19:26

    PF Quiztime

    Ooh yes!

    Also, Sidepodcar is nearly completion.. :D

  • Pat W21/10/2009 at 19:26

    PF Quiztime

    Link?

    http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/chat.php

    Need to make an account, it is quick and free.

  • RG21/10/2009 at 20:13

    Spot the difference:

    http://i36.tinypic.com/wlpt3k.jpg

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 20:22

    I made it back so Alison's fears about going outside in the dark proved groundless

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 20:26

    I have 4 differences

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 20:28

    That is so annoying. I don't do the quiz and get all 5 differences. That is the second time I have done that and I have never had 5 when I have been doing it

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 20:40

    have you considered wordpress.com / other hosting? we may have discussed this before, i forget. {Comment #861}

    We have discussed this before - twice. The problem is finding a blog platform I can actually use. Blogger and Wordpress, for example, are inaccessible to me from an admin perspective (in fact with Blogger I struggle even to get comments posted...)

    This time I will probably have to put some serious effort into looking, though. It's been nearly a week with no response from my co-admin, which makes me worry that my current blog host might be down permanently :(

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 20:44

    Oh man!! I want to do both!

    That would be totally awesome, i may do it in the summer when i have some spare time. November is the worst time for me to be doing that kind of thing, i have 2 assignments to be in, 1 to be started, plus 30 blog posts and a 50,000 word novel..

    I don’t even know what i’d write about!! But i totally want to do it {Comment #863}

    NaNoWriMo only happens in November (though variations exist throughout the year, including Script Frenzy in April).

    Although NaBloPoMo also only happens in November, there are miniature versions of it every month, so that would be more feasible.

    I have an outline sketch of what I want to write for the NaNoWriMo model (which walked half-formed into my head during a quiet bit of placement last week) and the blog updated for NaBloPoMo will be La Canta Magnifico Blog... ...I hope.

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 20:45

    Ok, am going to do it :D {Comment #866}

    Goodie! It will be fun to do this with you, Jon :)

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 20:47

    Good evening everyone. I just want to say that the new iMacs and the new Macbooks are lovely. The Magic Mouse is, well, Magic!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 20:47

    Goodie! It will be fun to do this with you, Jon :)

    I decided that i'm just going to have to get really organised with my work, and spend the next week being really organised with planning the novel

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 20:50

    Had a fun day with some new toys Andy?

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 20:52

    Had a fun day with some new toys Andy?

    Yes :D Sadly they wouldn't let me take them home with me :(

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 20:59

    Actually I don’t mind a few presents if the people getting them know I want them, it is the cards I think are the waste. {Comment #884}

    Recently, one of my friends had a milestone birthday (the big something-0 ) and cards were so pricey that Dad ended up buying a cheap bottle of wine for less money (having first checked with another friend that the wine was of a type the recipient would like).

    My card policy varies.

    Occasionally, I just plain forget to send any cards until mid-December, with the result that I end up sending half-a-dozen cards to family using the remains of whatever card packs my parents used for their considerably more meticulous card-sending schemes. Mum and Dad insist I at least write those cards out, even though if it were down to me I'd probably settle for posting "Happy Christmas" on a number of fora and blogs...

    If my swimming club sells cards for Christmas (it's done so five times in the thirteen years I've been a member), then I buy a pack or two of those to help club funds and use those to send to my friends.

    On one occasion, I've hand-drawn everyone's cards. Frequently, I'll find myself hand-drawing some to cover the fact that my supply of cards has run out. These are generally reserved for good friends who aren't in my family because they seem to appreciate that sort of card the most.

    There have also been years when I've ended up writing lists of who I want to send cards to, my parents have got boxes of cards... ...and then, inevitably, half the people to whom I wish to send cards aren't in a position to collect them!

    The other rule of thumb is that if you're not family but still end up receiving something from me, you will get a card or a present - never both. My best friends haven't had a card from me since school and my college teachers and helpers invariably get nice bars of chocolate instead of cards.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 21:00

    Yes :D Sadly they wouldn't let me take them home with me :(

    But you need to learn all about them including what they are like to live with

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 21:02

    I’m going to suggest this year at work that they get one large card everyone can sign rather than giving individual cards. Not sure I’ll get very far but will try. {Comment #892}

    The library where I worked last year had a great policy. Nobody bought any individual a card or present, but everyone bought some crisps, chocolates, biscuits or similar snacks for the staffroom table.

    It took over a week for the "party food" to be consumed...

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 21:02

    But you need to learn all about them including what they are like to live with

    Hmm. I think I'm expected to buy them.

  • Journeyer21/10/2009 at 21:04

    That is so annoying. I don't do the quiz and get all 5 differences. That is the second time I have done that and I have never had 5 when I have been doing it

    Hehehe. :D Well, if it's any consolation, the rest of the quiz isn't really your decade.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 21:07

    Oooh oooh oooh I've had so much fun. I'm so excited!!!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 21:09

    Oooh oooh oooh I've had so much fun. I'm so excited!!!

    Had fun with your sister? Paper mache?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 21:11

    Had fun with your sister? Paper mache?

    :( :( :(

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 21:12

    :( :( :(

    ok, so no paper mache.

    How was your sister? Had fun?

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 21:15

    Hehehe. :D Well, if it's any consolation, the rest of the quiz isn't really your decade.

    Journeyer lives in ever decade

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 21:15

    How was your sister? Had fun?

    She's great! We had amazing amounts of fun!!!

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 21:15

    Hehehe. :D Well, if it's any consolation, the rest of the quiz isn't really your decade.

    That is the really annoying bit. Even if I had been around for the quiz the differences would not have helped me

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 21:15

    Oooh oooh oooh I've had so much fun. I'm so excited!!!

    We need details

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 21:16

    She's great! We had amazing amounts of fun!!!

    I love having evenings like that, i don't see my brother very often but we have fun when we do.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 21:16

    We need details

    and pictures :D

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 21:16

    We need details

    Welllll we went to the cinema and saw a film about a floating house. It was free. I spent most of the film clapping my hands in excitement. Now I'm home and I have Michel. I'm still very excited!!

  • me21/10/2009 at 21:18

    the pinger seems to be having a day off. so i'm barking myself:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/10/21/heartbroken-or-heartless/

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 21:18

    Gah. Even with daylight saving I am way off quiz time

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 21:54

    Goodie! It will be fun to do this with you, Jon :)

    It's dawned on me what a stupid idea it is for me to do it in November, i am so busy!! I think i'm going to have to do my own version in the summer, or over christmas. hmmm

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 22:02

    #MFC

    What's this all about regarding Twitter, Microsoft and google?

    So... Twitter will be in Chrome and IE? Or something?

  • Paul21/10/2009 at 22:07

    So... Twitter will be in Chrome and IE? Or something?

    Oh great. Do we really want twitter results making general search even worse? Sheesh, it's hard enough to find some things as it is.

  • me21/10/2009 at 22:10

    So... Twitter will be in Chrome and IE? Or something?

    Oh great. Do we really want twitter results making general search even worse? Sheesh, it's hard enough to find some things as it is.

    twitter are hopeless. anything that get's the likes of google / microsoft involved has to be a good thing.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 22:12

    twitter are hopeless. anything that get's the likes of google / microsoft involved has to be a good thing.

    Least they can get some money towards actually staying online without everything going wrong for more than 5 minutes a time ;)

    Reminds me of a distant memory about some web hosting service.... can't...quite... remember the name...

  • me21/10/2009 at 22:13

    Least they can get some money towards actually staying online without everything going wrong for more than 5 minutes a time ;)

    i'm no fan of microsoft, but when was the last time their website went down?

    Reminds me of a distant memory about some web hosting service.... can't...quite... remember the name...

    ;)

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 22:16

    i’m no fan of microsoft, but when was the last time their website went down? {Comment #933}

    I wouldn't know. It's only ever loaded up correctly once on my computer - usually it gives me a blank window except for a smug "Done" in the bottom left-hand corner.

    That said, there is the possibility that there really is nothing at all on the Microsoft site...

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 22:17

    Does anyone know where I can find a good blog host comparison site? The number of hosts out there is overwhelming and given that none of the obvious choices are any good for me, I think I'll need some electronic help figuring out where to put my new blog platform...

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 22:18

    i'm no fan of microsoft, but when was the last time their website went down?

    I'm not surprised actually Microsoft have announced this. They've been working with Twitter for months seeing as the service is coming to Xbox 360 in about 3 weeks time. I'm not sure what it benefits though through a browser asides from being able to use at work I suppose and not having a seperate application for Twitter if you don't want one...

    Possible bit of #MFC news for you there in the future too, the integration of last.fm, Facebook, Zune Marketplace and Twitter as well as various news sources into the Xbox 360 in November. Big update.

  • me21/10/2009 at 22:19

    I'm not sure what it benefits though

    search.

    try and find something you said on twitter 3 months ago. can't be done.

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 22:20

    try and find something you said on twitter 3 months ago. can't be done.

    ahhhhhh... that makes more sense.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 22:22

    try and find something you said on twitter 3 months ago. can't be done.

    try and remember something you said three months ago on twitter

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 22:24

    Good evening sidepodista's!

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 22:24

    Good evening sidepodista's!

    Good evening sir

  • me21/10/2009 at 22:25

    try and remember something you said three months ago on twitter

    hehe. good point.

    however, i can't remember what i said on spc comments, but i can find out in less than 30 seconds: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/07/21/daily-21st-july-2009/#comment-403427

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 22:26

    Good evening sidepodista's!

    Niiiiiiiick!

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 22:27

    however, i can't remember what i said on spc comments, but i can find out in less than 30 seconds: http://www.sid...-2009/#comment-403427

    ah thats because you has a fancy comment search-hickey

  • me21/10/2009 at 22:28

    ah thats because you has a fancy comment search-hickey

    why hasn't twitter? we're two people with a budget of £0.00.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 22:28

    why hasn't twitter? we're two people with a budget of £0.00.

    this is true, you makes a good poin

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 22:28

    this is true, you makes a good poin

    +t

  • Lukeh21/10/2009 at 22:29

    Therefore, Sidepodcast > twitter

    Although you didn't need a fancy Searchamatron to tell me that :D

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 22:29

    I have competed in a quiz. Currently enjoying the hospitality of south west trains!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 22:31

    I have competed in a quiz. Currently enjoying the hospitality of south west trains!

    You didn't need to get on a train for a quiz silly.

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 22:32

    why hasn't twitter? we're two people with a budget of £0.00.

    Isn't their lack of a decent search facility by design though? Twitter for me is the embodiment of the current throwaway culture. Will you really care in 3 months time what anyone tweeted?

  • me21/10/2009 at 22:51

    Isn't their lack of a decent search facility by design though

    nope. they can't make it scale so they truncate search results.

    Twitter for me is the embodiment of the current throwaway culture.

    why should anything be throwaway in a world of almost infinite storage?

    Will you really care in 3 months time what anyone tweeted?

    i care now. so, yes.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 22:52

    why should anything be throwaway in a world of almost infinite storage?

    Some things really shouldn't be remembered....

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 22:52

    Why is it that when I find a blog solution that looks good, the link to sign up doesn't work?

    (The software that gave rise to this specific moan is Wikidot, incidentally).

    Let's just say this blog hunt is frustrating...

  • me21/10/2009 at 22:53

    Some things really shouldn't be remembered....

    everything at spc gets remembered. how are you supposed to hold it against me next year when i've changed my mind.

  • me21/10/2009 at 22:54

    Why is it that when I find a blog solution that looks good, the link to sign up doesn't work?

    can we help you setup a wordpress blog alia? get you past whatever is the sticking point. when have experience and they have 50+ million blogs and counting. it can't be an insurmountable problem?

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 22:57

    everything at spc gets remembered. how are you supposed to hold it against me next year when i've changed my mind.

    Hehehehe

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 22:57

    everything at spc gets remembered. how are you supposed to hold it against me next year when i've changed my mind.

    That's Christine's job, she's your wife.

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 22:59

    That's Christine's job, she's your wife.

    :D

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:09

    You didn't need to get on a train for a quiz silly.

    well if you dont invite me out on your nights I have to make do! :P Not sure I am all that popular with my fellow passengers at the moment... I have a beer so I am drinking it!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:14

    You were all more than welcome to come to the cinema with me. However it's not very MFC. Also if you actually want to watch the film, I'm not the person to go with.....

  • RG21/10/2009 at 23:15

    You were all more than welcome to come to the cinema with me. However it's not very MFC. Also if you actually want to watch the film, I'm not the person to go with.....

    Neither am I. Though I'm the type of person who turns up 20 minutes late and acts as if they were on time.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:17

    You were all more than welcome to come to the cinema with me. However it's not very MFC. Also if you actually want to watch the film, I'm not the person to go with.....

    Do you make comments about whats happening? I do that sometimes, most people are not impressed!

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 23:18

    can we help you setup a wordpress blog alia? get you past whatever is the sticking point. when have experience and they have 50+ million blogs and counting. it can’t be an insurmountable problem? {Comment #956}

    The worry would be whether a site that doesn't even work well enough for me to find the sign-up page, let alone get through the sign-up procedure, will be accessible enough for me to be able to do things like post entries after the set-up. They may have 50+ million blogs, but I have a horrible feeling that they're nearly (or possibly entirely) all owned by non-disabled people. Or at least people with different disabilities to me :(

    Nonetheless, it's worth a try.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:20

    Do you make comments about whats happening? I do that sometimes, most people are not impressed!

    Yes I make many many comments. I also get over excited, scare easily, squeal, giggle and many other annoying things.

  • me21/10/2009 at 23:20

    Nonetheless, it's worth a try.

    cool. is it okay if i email you? signup page is here, if that helps?

    http://en.wordpress.com/signup/

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:21

    Yes I make many many comments. I also get over excited, scare easily, squeal, giggle and many other annoying things.

    Cut of circulation to peoples hands during scary bits? :P

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 23:22

    Yes I make many many comments. I also get over excited, scare easily, squeal, giggle and many other annoying things.

    So if Nick goes to the cinema with you he needs earplugs?

  • RG21/10/2009 at 23:22

    Cut of circulation to peoples hands during scary bits? :P

    Latest Harry Potter film there's one of those shock moments (even though I knew it was coming), the guy at the end of the row just jumped ten miles into space and it caused everyone else to jump.

  • me21/10/2009 at 23:22

    So if Nick goes to the cinema with you he needs earplugs?

    he can't wear earmuffs, he'll look like a twit.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:23

    So if Nick goes to the cinema with you he needs earplugs?

    That's not allowed!! I like to talk and have replies!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:23

    Latest Harry Potter film there's one of those shock moments (even though I knew it was coming), the guy at the end of the row just jumped ten miles into space and it caused everyone else to jump.

    hehe if only you had filmed it!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:23

    he can't wear earmuffs, he'll look like a twit.

    This is also very true although I did have to wear stupid glasses so everyone looked pretty daft already today. I think earmuffs would have been pushing it though....

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:24

    he can't wear earmuffs, he'll look like a twit.

    :D

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:24

    hehe if only you had filmed it!

    Then you'd be telling us this story from jail?

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 23:24

    he can't wear earmuffs, he'll look like a twit.

    I thought TWiT was a good thing.

    BTW did you know Leo has announced a deal where people will be able to play his video podcasts on a ruko box so that it will almost be like TV?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:24

    This is also very true although I did have to wear stupid glasses so everyone looked pretty daft already today. I think earmuffs would have been pushing it though....

    Its not what you wear...its how you wear it :P

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 23:24

    cool. is it okay if i email you? signup page is here, if that helps?

    http://en.wordpress.com/signup/ {Comment #966}

    It's OK to e-mail me, Mr C :)

  • me21/10/2009 at 23:25

    BTW did you know Leo has announced a deal where people will be able to play his video podcasts on a ruko box so that it will almost be like TV?

    news to me, and a what?

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:25

    Then you'd be telling us this story from jail?

    good point! I dont go to the cinema enough to realise these things!

  • RG21/10/2009 at 23:26

    Then you'd be telling us this story from jail?

    I deny any allegations of wrong doing even though i'm not here.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 23:26

    news to me, and a what?

    And nothing particulalry much. I just thought you would be interested. He reckons that soon there will be lots of video podcasts from lots of producers available that way.

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:26

    I deny any allegations of wrong doing even though i'm not here.

    It's okay. You know who I blame.....?

    Nick.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:26

    I deny any allegations of wrong doing even though i'm not here.

    How was it being quizmaster? slip in any questions about speedway?

  • me21/10/2009 at 23:27

    And nothing particulalry much. I just thought you would be interested. He reckons that soon there will be lots of video podcasts from lots of producers available that way.

    just googled it. i want one, but i think it's US only :(

  • RG21/10/2009 at 23:27

    How was it being quizmaster? slip in any questions about speedway?

    No, though what event did Mark Webber attend and show up as a pundit in 2007 failed to make the grade.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:28

    It's okay. You know who I blame.....?

    Lion King music? ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:28

    Oooh oooh oooh and I'm still super hyper because I have chocolate icecream. Does that count as Thursday survival food? :D

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:28

    Oooh oooh oooh and I'm still super hyper because I have chocolate icecream. Does that count as Thursday survival food? :D

    I was given 2 tubs of ben and jerrys the other day, they are both vanilla based though :(

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:31

    I was given 2 tubs of ben and jerrys the other day, they are both vanilla based though :(

    This is ben and jerrys! I had chunky monkey yesterday. Today I have chocolate fudge brownie.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 23:32

    but i think it's US only :(

    I had a look earlier and came to the same conclusion. It is about time that someo told the Americans that the net is international and if they are seeling something only in their own little part of the world they should say so.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 23:33

    Oooh oooh oooh and I'm still super hyper because I have chocolate icecream. Does that count as Thursday survival food? :D

    Did the man with the orange drill fix your boiler. I assume yes or you wouldn't be so excited about ice cream

  • me21/10/2009 at 23:34

    It's OK to e-mail me, Mr C :)

    done. yell if you don't receive it.

  • me21/10/2009 at 23:35

    I had a look earlier and came to the same conclusion. It is about time that someo told the Americans that the net is international and if they are seeling something only in their own little part of the world they should say so.

    i agree.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:37

    This is ben and jerrys! I had chunky monkey yesterday. Today I have chocolate fudge brownie.

    I have Baked alaska and Cookies and cream. Baskin robbins cookies and cream is amazing, this isnt quite as good, but still tasty!

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:37

    Did the man with the orange drill fix your boiler. I assume yes or you wouldn't be so excited about ice cream

    Erm sort of. He made it give out heat which is awesome! I'd forgotten the other side effect of a broken boiler is cold water.... It isn't working properly though. He's coming back with his orange drill at some point to make it work properly.

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 23:38

    Erm sort of. He made it give out heat which is awesome! I'd forgotten the other side effect of a broken boiler is cold water.... It isn't working properly though. He's coming back with his orange drill at some point to make it work properly.

    Giving out heat is the important part. That's the bit that makes the ice cream good

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:39

    I have Baked alaska and Cookies and cream. Baskin robbins cookies and cream is amazing, this isnt quite as good, but still tasty!

    Hmmm I'm less convinced by these flavours. I'm happier with mine :P

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:41

    Hmmm I'm less convinced by these flavours. I'm happier with mine :P

    no no they are amazing.... fancy a trade? ;)

  • Alison21/10/2009 at 23:46

    no no they are amazing.... fancy a trade? ;)

    Errrrm... No!

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:47

    Errrrm... No!

    Go on!

  • Alianora La Canta21/10/2009 at 23:48

    Mr C, thank you for setting up the Wordpress blog for me. I'm currently experimenting with the settings. Hopefully by late Friday it should be in a fit state to be seen by the outside world.

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:49

    Mr C, thank you for setting up the Wordpress blog for me. I'm currently experimenting with the settings. Hopefully by late Friday it should be in a fit state to be seen by the outside world.

    :D sounds good! ... cant wait to see it!

  • me21/10/2009 at 23:49

    Mr C, thank you for setting up the Wordpress blog for me. I'm currently experimenting with the settings. Hopefully by late Friday it should be in a fit state to be seen by the outside world.

    no worries alia. yell if you need more info.

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 23:52

    Jon - does your router allow you to change the MAC address on the WAN port? If so, you should be able to change it to match your computer. That should allow the router to work OK - it was a common problem with cable internet companies. Worth a try

  • Jon Waldock21/10/2009 at 23:53

    Jon - does your router allow you to change the MAC address on the WAN port? If so, you should be able to change it to match your computer. That should allow the router to work OK - it was a common problem with cable internet companies. Worth a try

    I have absolutely no idea what you just said

  • Nick21/10/2009 at 23:54

    I have absolutely no idea what you just said

    :lol:

  • Steven Roy21/10/2009 at 23:55

    I have absolutely no idea what you just said

    He has spent all day drooling over new macs. You can't expect him to talk sense

  • Andy Taylor21/10/2009 at 23:59

    I have absolutely no idea what you just said

    OK, sorry. It's late, I should be in bed asleep.

    I'll start again. Every computer/router/network device has a unique address assigned to it call the MAC or hardware address. This is usually set by the manufacturer and is one way the university can tell you are using a router.

    I'm assuming that when your computer is wired into the ethernet port it works just fine?

    Most routers allow you to change the MAC address for the ethernet port you connect to the Internet. Change it to the address of your computer and as far as the network is concerned, you still have your computer plugged in :)

    What's your router make and model?

  • Jon Waldock22/10/2009 at 00:01

    I'm assuming that when your computer is wired into the ethernet port it works just fine?

    it requiers a password but yeah..

    its a belkin g wireless router

  • Nick22/10/2009 at 00:03

    its a belkin g wireless router

    I have one of those in aus, the instruction manual will tell you the adress to access the menus

  • Jon Waldock22/10/2009 at 00:04

    I have one of those in aus, the instruction manual will tell you the adress to access the menus

    its on the bottom i think. what do i do with it?>

  • Nick22/10/2009 at 00:07

    its on the bottom i think. what do i do with it?>

    there should be a web adresss made up of numbers... enter it into your browser and it should get you into the setup menus

    beyond that you will need andys help i am afraid!

  • Jon Waldock22/10/2009 at 00:09

    there should be a web adresss made up of numbers... enter it into your browser and it should get you into the setup menus

    It says WAN MAC: 001..... etc, its a 12 character code of letters and numbers, is that it?

  • Jon Waldock22/10/2009 at 00:10

    It says WAN MAC: 001..... etc, its a 12 character code of letters and numbers, is that it?

    oooh and theres LAN/WLAN MAC with a character code which is slightly differnet to hte above one

  • Andy Taylor22/10/2009 at 00:11

    oooh and theres LAN/WLAN MAC with a character code which is slightly differnet to hte above one

    Yep. What you are looking at is the hardware addresses of the router. What you need to do is make the router's software pretend that the WAN MAC is the MAC belonging to the computer.

  • Jon Waldock22/10/2009 at 00:12

    Am going to try it, but i only have 1 ethernet port, so have to disconnect myself temporarily. Back in a bit...maybe

  • Alianora La Canta22/10/2009 at 00:18

    sounds good! … cant wait to see it! {Comment #1003}

    Thanks, Nick and me! I've even found a template with a colour selector like my old blog :D

  • Nick22/10/2009 at 00:20

    Thanks, Nick and me! I've even found a template with a colour selector like my old blog :D

    hehe glad its going well, its a pretty good interface, i if i can publish on it it must be!