The Monday following the race before, but there's no time to relax as it's time to start thinking ahead to Bahrain. What will we see in terms of performance? Will there be any more diffusers present? Will KERS ever return to those who have dumped it? Meanwhile, there are still things to analyse from the race we have just witnessed:
- There's a discussion in the comments over who is the better wet weather driver - Hamilton or Vettel. Journeyer has done a great race by race analysis, and it's time to weigh in your thoughts. Was Hamilton helped by the car? Did this race prove that a bad car plus rain don't mix? Is Vettel supreme or just lucky?
- Ferrari are having to put their foot down and state that their championship isn't over yet. The party line is that it's only been three races and anything could change. However, they might need to tell Kimi that because he's already written the championship off. Who's closer to the truth? Could Ferrari make a resurgance despite such poor results?
- As we mentioned in the live show yesterday (edited version coming soon), the Laureus Awards nominations have been announced and both Vettel and Hamilton are up for a prize. Thankfully not pitted against each other this time, the nominees can be viewed here, and it looks like Lewis has some stiff competition. The Olympics is still dominating sports awards again. Who do you think will win?
If there's anything following the race that you feel needs discussion, then please feel free to talk about that, or anything. The Daily post is open for your thoughts. I'll see you in the comments.
Morning all.
Hey Christine!
Was Vettel lucky? You can only be lucky once or twice - but he's won twice in the wet, and beaten Lewis multiple times. He even beat him when they went head-to-head in Brazil, and Lewis' championship was at stake!
This is real ability from DerSeb. Not yet at Senna or Schumacher's level, but the potential is there to be at that level.
They can have a resurgence ala Renault at the end of last year. They can be irritants to probable title contenders Button and Vettel.
But contend for the title themselves? I doubt it. Here's what each driver has gone through in the 1st 3 races
Raikkonen - driver error - strategy error - lack of pace
Massa - reliability issue - strategy error - reliability issue
They've lost the bulletproof quality they had in all their title-winning years, and they're now making strategy errors too. The strategy errors can be fixed. But with a testing ban in place, I'm not so sure they can fix their reliability issues. Even if they can, that would be at the cost of resources which could've been used to develop new components to catch up to the front.
Morning all!
I think Ant on 5 Live hit the nail on the head with Ferrari's problems. Over the last few years they have slowly been lsong their top personel (brawn, todt, schumi....) and the effect is now catching up to them.
That should be losing personel of course, stupid phone..
I see a trend. I came 17th in BATracer for at least the third time this season.
Schumi is still with them, but I think his consultant role is more of an 'outside looking in' role than one of 'inside looking out', which he had as a driver.
With Todt probably off to the Place de la Concorde (pro or anti Ferrari?) and Brawn now firmly based in Brackley (probably for the rest of his years), we may see Ferrari return to the wilderness for the first time since the 1980s. It's up to Stefano, Aldo, Luca, Chris, Rob, and Gabrielle to stop that from happening.
Morning all,
Just a quick update - the news from the this country is understandably very critical of the prancing stallion. Every headline runs with something similar to 3 races, 0 points. followed by words like disaster and fall (from grace) and delusion. not being a ferrari fan, i quite like it :) i grew into F1 as a Hill fan so anything red was not a good thing. Hard to change that sort of environment.
3 races, 0 points. I think Kubica may be reading a similar headline in Poland. ;)
Disaster? Yes. Fall from grace? Absolutely. But it's not the end of the world yet - they can still reestablish themselves as a solid midfield team (if not quite a championship contender). It really depends on what updates they get in Barcelona.
Worse than that, it's 3 races, 1 finish.
Bourdais had a rather amusing accident post-race yesterday: http://uk.redbulletin.com/articles/airhead_drivers/
silly boy
Perfect end to a perfect day, I guess!
Oops. :D
Who knows, the bump on the head might make him go faster. :P
*end sarcasm*
Is this how it is between you and LeSeb now? ;)
Applies to Kimi, Felipe, and Robert.
I absolutely agree with what Gavin said on the panel. Felipe needs Fernando to come in quickly. And so do Ferrari actually.
It seems like Kimi's attitude is "you build me a race winning car, and I'll win the race." He doesn't seem too interested in helping the team develop the car, because he doesn't think that's his responsibility. Maybe Fernando can save Ferrari?
Morning, btw. :)
:)
Ferrari need him, for sure. Felipe needs to prove to Ferrari they don't need him. Fernando will be holding Felipe's poisoned chalice - the Ferrari may go faster, but no way can Felipe beat Fernando.
He never thought it was his responsibility, just as it was in his McLaren days. If things stay as they are, Kimi may just decide to call it a day at the end of the season.
BATracer:
GET IN THERE! 2 in a row! My strategy worked! :D
And, um, you wouldn't happen to you know, want to share that strategy with a struggling team that hasn't got any points at all would you...?
Well it was only a Monaco strategy really, but if you want to know, I ran a short stint of 15 laps on the soft tyre, then switched to the hards and stacked 35 laps of fuel into my car for a long second stint. Thanks to a couple of safety cars, it paid off and I was 2nd on the last restart. Fortunately I was able to get past Lou somehow and won in Monaco! I won in the 2008 game by over a minute and even though the margin was much smaller, I am still the king of the modern day Monaco GP! :D
I don't think marketing themselves as a midfield team, like so many other teams do, is what they're after. Italians expect to win, and then kill their young when they don't.
priceless. At least he was trying to hang out with the team, more than Hamilton is able to at the moment, if the reports about the tension are correct.
Ferrari are not going to win this season. They can aim for a middle of the road placing this year, then look to re-establish themselves as contenders next year.
guess who bought a new skype headset today :D
:D
Exactly. They should punch at their weight, rather than trying too hard and tripping over themselves in the process. Then again, this is post-Schumi Ferrari, so cold logic isn't as valued as it used to be.
That should endear LeSeb a bit to his mechanics. Now if only he could go faster... :D
That said, do you guys think Lewis' tension with the mechanics is true? Makes 2007 and Alonso's allegations seem lightyears away, no? ;)
Woohoo!
all access F1 pass anybody ? http://www.pumamotorsport.com/fan-report/
Yes please! :D
almost time to update your level of sidepodaddiction. :D
the mclaren eshop are retweeting me for marketing purposes, i demand a slice of the profits!
I really wanna win this PUMA competition, so this is what I've got for why I should be a PUMA reporter:
My passion for Formula 1 is unbridled. The way I talk, view and think about F1 has changed radically in the past few years and now I am an avid follower. I never miss a session, whether it be practice, qualifying or indeed the race. I'm always making sure I am up to date with the latest news and goings-on in the paddock and pitlane. I have been a fan of F1 since I was just 2 years old. My first word wasn't Mum or Dad, but Mansell, after Nigel Mansell sent me a signed picture. I am a member of an online F1 community which lives and breathes the sport and is full of like minded fans who give me a place to truly express my opinions and thoughts on F1. Now I'm 18 and the sport is my world. I love the speed, the passion, the noise, the excitement, the tense feeling before the start, the rush down to the first corner. Wheel-to-wheel action, side by side at 200mph. This is F1 at it's best and to get a chance to view a race weekend like the drivers themselves do would just be incredible. I have been to races before, but to experience one up close and personal would be a dream come true. Plus, to say that I was one of those people who was there at the last ever British GP at Silverstone would be something to savour for the rest of my life. One of my career options is to get into motorsport journalism and to be able to get a taste of what those who work for the likes of Autosport or F1 Racing would see, hear, feel, touch and taste could really help me get a better insight into what it takes to make it as a journalist of the sport. I'm just an ordinary 18 year old from the East of England, but my love of F1 is extraordinary. So all I ask is to consider me as a PUMA reporter. It would mean more than you could ever imagine.
well written Scott :)
Thanks :)
I haven't sent it yet, but I just thought I'd get you guys to look at it and give your opinion and whether it could bettered in any way.
I agree with Journeyer and Sean that the team is unlikely to win this year but they are not allowed to say that here. At least not yet, we have many seasons, seen the first 2 or 3 races go in a very different direction to the season previously. most of the times, the new technology (wings/turning system/diffuser etc) will keep outperforming, but the others do catchup. will ferrari catch up enough? i doubt it, but I'd like to see more than 2 teams fighting it out for the championship, regardless of who they are...except ferrari ;)
Awesome - if I were to win this Puma competition, I could be hanging out at Ferrari, Toro Rosso, Red Bull, Renault or BMW! :D
I can visualise you now, tucking in to a Bavarian breakfast at BMW...
http://www.squidoo.com/bavarian-breakfast
replay of yesterday's live show is now up.
Mr C's back! :D
So do you guys think I stand a chance of winning this Puma thing? :)
I'm assuming this is so you can contribute to the growing participation of the sidepodcast world? we expect voicemails :) although, i don't think i ever have done one :)
0121 28 87225.
"So do you guys think I stand a chance of winning this Puma thing?"
anything is possible, I never expected to win the Schumi ride with Bacardi and it happened :-)
I think the chance is not too bad with that Puma Motorsport site as they are quite new and they do not have too many readers yet
Awesome. Well, here goes nothin'!
hopelessly late, but Journeyer, great guest post a few weeks back. took me two weeks to get around to reading it, but worth the wait ;)
are you having a go yourself?
and with skype it's free too. look for sidepodcast as a contact right?
I don't feel too bad about not leaving a voicemail. I contributed to a panel show once (apple cake vs chocolate cake. ep2?) but am rarely around on a sunday night.
"are you having a go yourself?"
no, I do not want to be greedy, I won one big prize already this year, have to give chance to others too :-)
Absolutely.
I've just realised most of the remaining races finish at midnight, plus the half hour journey home from the pub, 4am sidepodding will be awfully painful if I have early starts at work on Monday :D
true, but if the site is new, it might make them feel better if they get a ton of entries.
"true, but if the site is new, it might make them feel better if they get a ton of entries."
you got me thinking :-)
Oh no you don't! :D
Enjoy your Weißwürschte.
3 races, 0 points. I think Kubica may be reading a similar headline in Poland. {Comment #9}
As might Force India in India. Though given that the end-of-season headline last year read "18 races, 0 points" or something along those lines, they're probably used to it.
Christine loves voicemails, and you can leave them anytime after a race - there's usually a few days before a show. but the earlier the better. But as I said, I've never got motivated to do one, but more than happy to motivate others ;)
Voicemails are good. More voicemails please.
I am one of the many who hates the sound of my own voice :D
I think that's the issue, if teams, (even Brawn did this), suggest they'll be mid field contenders, then they're never criticised unless they have lots of DNFs. It's those top teams that struggle, and get the comments. But I'm happy about this, every team deserves a turn at the top - it's good for the long term future of the sport, and keeps sponsors on those cars. Let's face it, a lot of space was left on the Brawn car before race 1.
As long as we don't, where's the problem? :)
Flavio will create more headlines that he well and truly has lost his mind
"Fernando was second on Saturday and we saw we had the same level of fuel as Button."
Um, no, no he didn't.
Bourdais had a rather amusing accident post-race yesterday: http://uk.redbulletin.com/articles/airhead_drivers/ {Comment #11}
Whoops! Perhaps he should ask fellow Le Mans driver Franck Montagny for a hair dryer from that hairdresser he co-runs in Barcelona before trying to dry his helmet out again. It may take a bit longer, but it would be slightly less dangerous...
Ping.
is this a new record?
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/3000-comments-in-30-days-png
Don't know if this has been mentioned (not been here for a few days), but Red Bull have launched a talent-contest programme for would be journos to get opportunities to cover various events, such as the British GP.
http://www.redbullreporter.com/
Writers, photographers, film bods can all apply.
William Shakespeare I am not, but I'm now going to ask you to vote for my submission which is here, yes here, click this bit and whilst you're at it, you can look and vote for the missus' lovely piccies.
Thanking you :-D
My blatant attempt at spam failed - moderated!
Is that the white sausage?
Ahem.
yes. Have you ever tried it?
Morning Gavin :)
Oh yes, many times. It's one of the many things I smuggle over the border from Flensburg ;-)
I would give it a go. Last year I ran into (not literally) a fellow who had won the Bridgestone e-Reporter thing. He was working for KHP, so perhaps not quite what you would call an F1 journo, but these things take time.
Surely you should know?
Oh, that internet – strips irony dead, and rhetoric too...
I'm gonna spend the rest of this morning doing my spreadsheet for this season. I was doing it at my dad's but either he couldn't find it or I didn't actually save it. Never mind, gives me something to do.
Got it.
I walked in to the BMW motorhome once at about nine in the morning and found some people tucking in to beer and sausages. Although briefly tempted, I thought that spending the rest of the day exuding stale beer and garlic fumes might give the wrong impression...
Morning. Just come back from the hospital. After four months, no symptoms and many tests where they told me that nothing is wrong with me but they would like to do further tests - guess what? That's right, I'm completely healthy and not epileptic but they want to do an MRI scan just to make sure.
I've had two blood tests, many blood pressure tests, an EKG AND EEG test, and today I had a physical. But nobody has the guts to tell me I am perfectly healthy - they keep referring to their seniors who make them do more tests on me.
I should be happy but I am frustrated. Today I was supposed to draw a line under the whole thing but it goes on. I feel like Mclaren in front of the WMSC :-(
How do we vote? Do we have to sign up to the website?
<blockquote>Adesso che ogni alibi è caduto, adesso che si è capito che il kers, il diffusore, Ross Brawn, Bernie Ecclestone, la Fia non c'entrano niente, adesso che è chiaro che la Ferrari e solo la Ferrari è responsabile -repubblica.it(newspaper)</blockquote>
Now every excuse has fallen, now that we know it's not KERS, the diffuser, Ross, Bernie, the FIA - they have no involvement; now it is clear that it is Ferrari and only Ferrari, that is responsible
how quick they turn on their own!
Oh forgot that bit! Yup, register and then you can vote for submissions and add your own. Bare minimum details are requested to get a username and password.
That looks cool too. Reckon I could submit one of my existing pieces from my blog? Or does it have to be something original?
Bad news Gavin, but if you're feeling good, run with that diagnosis :) I hope you get the answers, or maybe, given you feel good, that's just perfect :)
:) I prefer Nürnberger
Well... I think they want you to either write about the 'Red Bull New Years No Limits' event (after watching the video) or talk about a sports athlete or event 'near you'.
http://www.redbullreporter.com/category/become-a-reporter/
Obviously Sebastien Loeb lives in France, I in the UK. That's kinda close isn't it? :-)
Looking at the other submissions, which have to be approved before going on, nobody seems to be sticking rigidly to their suggestions.
I second that. Sometimes we put too much faith in the ability of modern medicine to give us all the answers; advanced though it is, it can't tell us everything.
Good morning everyone :) what a beautiful day!
Does Vettel count as near me? ;)
Is that from Gazzetto Dello Sport?
Italians are the world champions of backstabbing, trust me on that one ;-)
Hey Lukeh. 'Tis a nice day indeed. :)
I prefer Flensburger or Bitburger ;-)
I just learnt that Bahrain qualifying isn't on TV here at all, at the time it would be live there is 9 hours of IPL cricket on instead, and they're not even showing it delayed :(
Move to a proper country. Denmark has no interest in F1 yet every single session is live (and they do try and make an effort with the coverage, I just disagree with the style of the commentary).
No. this was from http://www.repubblica.it/2009/03/sport/formulauno/3gp-cina/delusione-ferrari-cina/delusione-ferrari-cina.html
i haven't checked any of the other papers. the news last night was all the same pretty much. 3 races. 0 points.
I moved from a proper country! NZ has all sessions live, albeit on Sky so it was costing me $70 a month to have it. They also started showing practice after I moved
It just shocks me that they're keen to use Webber in all their ads for their 24 hour sports channel, but not willing to actually put his sport on it.
I should be happy but I am frustrated. Today I was supposed to draw a line under the whole thing but it goes on. I feel like Mclaren in front of the WMSC {Comment #78}
Good to know you're well, Gavin, and hope the medical world takes the hint soon and lets you get on with your life unimpeded. The medical profession may hate mysteries, but this is going too far.
You should be able to find a stream posted (or embedded) here, if you're internet is good enough, but Australia might change that given Mark's success :) what time is bahrain for an australian fan?
I second that :) Just make sure the job is good enough (I'm an aussie who moved for work but will be gone within 6 months)
Another case where NZ does things better. sigh...
Does this not look a little creepy?
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/126550
I've streamed all the practices so far and most of the qualy sessions as well, so I'm sure I'll cope, although my internet does appear to have been throttled because we've probably gone over our data allowance. I use my 3g connection as back up when the normal wireless gets slowed down. Qualy is at 9pm I think.
Massa is pleading for help from the fans to support him
http://english.gazzetta.it/Motor_sports/
NZ used to get a bum deal when TVone had the coverage - great buildup, no qualifying and all the asian races were delayed (primetime coverage). Sky NZ shows the world feed but only showed qualy and race when I was there - but always live and always with the pit reporters too. Unfortunately, they always seemed to interview Jenson when the post race press conference was on, so I started to get sick of him a bit ;-) Luckily, that has passed now, but I am shocked how bad the Aussies do the coverage - and yet all the taxi racers are live!
CH: WE ARE UNSTOPPA-BULL NOW. MWAHAHA!
Thanks, Scott! Glad to see you liked it. ;) To those who haven't read it yet, pleez do. :D
I'd love trying out the PUMA Competition, but work would get in the way. Oh well. :)
last week when qualy was on, the sports channel was showing bull fighting. Enough said.
I'm still laughing from last night. Alex's JA impression was brill. "A car....David Coulthard...he's passed....Michael Schumacher....a hand gesture" LMAO! :D
Thanks Ali. I know I am fine, I try to tell the doctors who agree with me, yet they are so scared of being sued they will not just say it. I feel stressed out that I have to have more tests - even if I am OK I just want it over and done with :-(
TBH, that is a rare occurrence :-(
CH: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!
That was brilliant eh !
since living here I have decided Australia is NZ in the 90s. They're all confused by EFTPOS, and the shops have weird opening hours.
Mine wasn't as funny though, but it was all I could think of really.
You could say they wrote the book on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince
I was worried I was going to have creepy James Allen commentated dreams for my remaining hour of sleep, the impressions were that good!
They all made for excellent listening :)
Yeeeouch! But that's the Italian media for you. Remember that these guys got spoiled by Schumi's success with them, so they too have forgotten that Ferrari used to be losers too.
Hmm. Interesting. The weather is nicer and the pay is better though, right?
But yours was the best ;-)
yep :D
"This isn't just a Magnum..."
My Uncle (Italian) says that there are too many Italians in the team and they promoted the wrong people. He knows that Ferrari are going down the toilet and he thinks they should have never got rid of Todt, Brawn, Schumacher etc. He's not a fan of Kimi or Massa, funnily enough ;-)
I'm just reading it and it makes me laugh! Haha!
Italy: The Home of Machiavellianism and Totalitarianism :D
And other posh long words...
Agnelli realized that and learned that - which was why he, not LDM, went after Schumacher in the first place, along with Todt. Of course, LDM answers to no one now, so he can unlearn it. ;)
:D Republicanism and Renaissance
Would it be within the rules of this Red Bull thing if I wrote about an F1 who lives in the UK?
OMG, I GOT IT! WEBBER! :D
TBH Amy, NZ is a beautiful country, but it's too isolated, there's too much rugby focus, you don't earn much money and the country has become too soft, PC and too green. It's great for a holiday but once you move away you realise the quality of life is not that great :-(
You could say they wrote the book on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince {Comment #115}
:D It's a good book as well :)
I'm going to sign up for this website just to vote for you. Not something Iwould normally do, BTW...)
I've been put in moderation for finding Stuart C's comment about Machiavellianism amusing :(
Got it.
Liking Joe's airport anecdote:
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/and-so-to-bahrain/
The drivers ride Economy now?! A far cry from the days where most drivers had planes of their own...
I think they were up at the front while he was waiting...
Mark Webber said on his BBC column that sometimes it's just easier to get on an economy flight than charter a private plane. I think it's a good thing - it saves money and looks good to the greenies if they all share a plane...
Joe got an upgrade.
Mind you, I sat next to Sergio Perez in steerage on the way back from China last year.
I wouldn't mind being on a plane and having a driver sit next to me :D
It would require a lot of discipline not to talk to him too much, though. ;)
Sergio Perez! Star of the future, you think?
I didn't talk to Jenson at all when I saw him in Singapore airport ;)
SP wasn't a laugh a minute. I had to nip down the back and help the snappers reduce the vin rouge payload.
He's quick, but needs to learn the virtue of the adage "Smile and the whole world smiles with you..."
But would you have that same kind of discipline if he was beside you on the plane? :P
Well done! :D Mind you, you just transferred the payload into your tummies, but what the hey. ;)
Tell Kimi that. And Robert too. :P
Hmm. Just goes to show how important it is for a driver to have a good image and be 100% good 100% of the time. Take note Mr. Hamilton!
For Kubica the adage is "Whinge and the whole world whinges about you!" :-D
Call me stereotypical, but the people in F1 aren't that unlike characters in wrestling. One minute they're cheered as good-guys/faces, next thing we know they've down something dastardly and turned into bad-guys/heels. And then they redeem themselves and turn back into good-guys/faces again. :P
Journeyer, You're Stereotypical :-D
You are absolutely right about F1 personalities - it does come across as a sporting soap opera sometimes, which is not too dissimilar to WWE ;-)
'Here comes Alonso! He's running down to the ring with a steel chair to help his tag team partner! Yes! And.. NO! ALONSO HITS HAMTILON!'
You know you'd love to see it. To be young again and enjoy wrestling... :P
:D :D :D
Ah yes, you can relate to what I'm saying! At least I'm not alone in thinking that. ;)
Old school WWF is far better. They had Wrestlemania III on the other week and it rocked.
In the tradition of Superleague Formula, perhaps we should start a Wrestlemania Formula - take 20 identical Touring Cars, get wrestlers to sponsor them and then fund a crash-fest around some British Club circuits :-D
Moderated for laughing too much (i.e. using too many smilies)
:P
OMG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I love that!!! :D
Royal Rumble, eh? I say 30 Touring Cars! Let's make it the Top Gear Royal Rumble - refereed by the Stig! :D
Whats the commentator, jim ross? He should swap with Legard. Now that man is a commentator!
They used to have a non-championship event called the 'TOCA Shootout' - I went in 1993 (The year Mansell got shunted off into a concrete wall by the unrepentant cog known as Tiff Needell). It's a fun idea - you stage a 20 lap race and every few laps, the cars at the back are forced to retire if none have dropped out already, leaving about 10 to duke it out at the end ...)
Agreed. Jim Ross is a LEGEND.
His style of commentating is such that he's unique, and yet, would work well in any sport. He's a storyteller, and a brilliant one at that.
This idea was actually swirling around my head. I was thinking, "what if we used knockout regs for the race?"
That said, I'm not sure it would hold much appeal, even as a non-championship all-star race.
Just had a funny thought - Legard doing WWE commentary:
"Look, there's a wrestler! Look, there's a chair! Girlfriend! Referee! Hits him!"
Brundle: "That's just a replay :-("
Haha! Is Legard that bad now? Surely he's better than that? They said he was good in his R5L stint. Also, he's got to be better than Allen... right?
I think JA might be better than Legard. Bear in mind, ITV forced the Lewis focus and you can't bite the hand that feeds you. Take Nick Daman from Midweek Motorsport - he regularly has a rant on that show about how bad sportscars is getting and how uninteresting the series is becoming, yet when he commentates the LMES on Eurosport (who he criticized for bad coverage) he makes out that all is fine and dandy. I suspect JA was put in a similar predicament with ITV...
Also JA knew stuff about F1 and it's clear that Legard doesn't. You feel that Legard is lost and needs Brundle and statman to give some insight. Come on BBC, admit you made a mistake and give us Crofty!
Can I also add that the way people respond to Legard is frighteningly similar to JA... same criticisms and alll... :-(
BTW:
Bad news: I may not see the F1 live and may end up missing the debrief and Panel
Good news: This is because I shall be visiting our newest and shiniest Drilling Rig :D
please explain? sounds intriguing.
58 comments while I'm off for lunch... don't think i'll try and catchup.
Oooh... Drilling Rig! Aren't those rigs in international waters?
JA always did his research - and it was obvious in the way he did his commentary. It wasn't always bearable, but it was usually informative.
This I don't understand. The Allen-Brundle problem was that we had 2 analysts and no commentators. That's a completely different scenario to what is starting to become the Legard-Brundle problem: we have 1 analyst and 1 clueless commentator.
I'd rather have the analyst over the clueless commentator. That said, his vocal delivery is still better than Allen's - easier on the ear.
But Mr C said it took 4 races for Crofty to settle into TV work. Let's give Legard until Barcelona, which would be Race 5. Watcha think?
are you, or have you ever been, a wrestling fan? if not, you haven't missed much. ;)
People are sick of the sound of Legard's voice - same as what they said about JA
It was easier until the end, a lot of people complained they were sick of hearing his voice. It did get a bit tiring. JA was a serial offender for this however, so I'm inclined to agree, but it's close to call.
Yep, but Leggy was previously an F1 commentator that moved to football and Crofty took over. Does anyone know why this happened? Suddenly I am interested...
i was a while ago, and I did see Hulk Hogan in Rocky III on friday night. I think it's apparent this year that I tend to drop in and out of the chat situation depending on my multitasking skills. I simply cannot keep up!
Worked for Heiki...
!:)
People are just saying that because they haven't heard JA's voice in a while. Make them work on back-to-back races and let's see what the people have to see.
Will we get Croft to move up to TV? Maybe, but probably not anytime soon. Legard would probably be on a 3-year contract.
*people have to say, rather.
Did it really? Methinks not. ;)
Moving from F1 to football was, and still is, seen as a promotion within the industry, as football will usually have better ratings than F1.
For some reason, I find 0121 28 TRACK so much cooler and easier to remember :-)
he didn't spin once in a race where lewis spun 5 times in the same car. what more can you ask of a guy?
The thing that bugged me about Legard the most was right at the end when he started going 'concentrate, keep it on the road, keep it on the road Vettel' etc. He needs to be reminded Vettel can't hear him.
Other than that, I am not hating him as much as I did James, so I'm willing to give him a few more races before I write him off totally
Yeah you're right there I guess. Maybe I'm just saying it because I have new respect for JA as a writer. He was a bad commentator though!
Contracts can be broken though. How long do we give him before everyone who can just switches to the 5Live feed?
Now, if memory serves, "Our Nige" got a tankslapper on the exit of the Old Hairpin, and in the process of saving it lurched into the very path of "Rafa" Needell...
Indeed. David Leslie won it in the end from Paul Radisich.
I think he need to learn that the job of a tv commentator is to say something other than what we can see/think ourselves.
I got annoyed last night - 60 minutes of highlights, and we got 10 minutes of build up, and no sutil crash near the end.
And he beat him - and you know what? Hardly any praise comes his way. If that were lewis, he would have been praised all the way back to Stevenage!
It was a good race for Heikki and I hope those that can influence him tell him so ... he did OK at Renault and I think he has a lot of pace left to unlock...
rocky 2, surely?
Does this make Bernie Ecclestone Vince McMahon? Who, then, is The Undertaker?
I managed to squeeze in an appearance on SidePodpanel before all the time zone changes happened.
I also managed to change my roster so that I have Mondays off.
Very true. Needell went the wrong way and hit him. What angered me was in the post race interview he made out that he wasn't bothered about putting Nige into hospital and that it was revenge for Nige hitting him in a TVR race earlier in the day.
for sidepodcast??
yeah probably. I get confused on all those complicated roman numbers, like II and III. how confusing can they be?
That's dedication... or he really has no friends that like F1 ;-)
and don't forget, he's ahead of Lewis in the championship ;) (how many times can I say that in the next week? your bets please!)
Tiff's own F1 career was a footnote to a footnote.
They've been showing F1 in Australia for over 25 years and they still can't get it right. They used to argue on channel 9 that we didn't miss any footage when they showed ads but it was pretty obvious to all that we did. I'll say it again, thank Jebus for the Internets!
If that's how you define a commentator, then Murray Walker would've failed badly. Their job, as I pointed out earlier with good ole JR, is to tell a story. Given what's going on, they should be able to tell us more about the cars and the drivers behind them - how their human qualities make them something to behold.
Yes!
The Undertaker HAS to be Max Mosley. I refer to the Ministry of Darkness-era Taker.
Heinz-Harald Frentzen would also have fit the Undertaker mould, given his family background. ;)
a dozen times, maybe? :D
F1 = Sidepodcast = Friends. You say 'like F1". I say obsessed with F1 :-)
Most of the races are on late Sunday night in Oz, so I can't see me getting up early enough on Monday mornings to participate in panels etc. :-(
I just found out my neighbour (who is moving out) is an F1 nut. Usual Sidepodcast promotion ensued.
Yay :)
My neighbour in NZ was an F1 fan. Too bad he was a cog :(
Did it work?
Why don't I know any F1 fans :( apart from my ex boyfriend who doesn't count ;)
Because you lived in Dunners - Rugby jock hell :(
The best you get in NZ is "Oh, I watch the V8's but F1's boring". These people then go on and on about Rugby, or worse, cricket!
Don't get me started on V8s....
Internet? Good in Aust? One day...
It's not the only reason I am a Mark Webber fan but I'll be well pleased if his success can wake up the numptys that run television in this country.
Bahrain is GMT +3, East coast of Aust is GMT +10 so 9pm race for us.
Oh please do. I'd like people here to understand how bad it is and how inferior it is to BTCC...
Not yet. But I now have his mobile number :-)
I CAN'T STAND THOSE CARS THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. I have no opinion at all on Ford vs Holden because I couldn't care less if I tried. When they were doing the V8 races at the Grand Prix I didn't even know which cars were which. Plus Greg Murphy is a tool.
I can't stand how the fans are worse than football hooligans. I can't stand how they have to like Holden or Ford and hate drivers that 'defect'. I can't stand how it wants to be like NASCAR and that they race on God-awful narrow tracks where shoving and shunting is required instead of overtaking.
Bathurst was AWESOME under Group A rules, but they got stroppy when the Aussie cars didn't win and banned everyone else. The Super Tourer Bathurst was also wicked, but the boorish idiots didn't like those cars one bit and a great idea was killed off. It's the lowest common denominator of Motorsport and I just can't see the appeal of it!
I seem to be able to find something to enjoy in all car racing. I can see what others are saying when they criticise certain series, but I just can't get enough motor sport in my life. I managed to watch some of the V8s from Hamilton in NZ before the F1 on Sunday (recorded Sat and Sun for later viewing). There was the usual procession that occurs in a spec series, but having Jamie Whincup (Triple 8 Racing - Roland Dane is a familiar name to the UK) pit early to put him in clean air was a good example of the strategy component that we can all relate to.
I went to Sydney for Top Gear Live and the amount of V8 stuff made me want to cry and ask for a refund. I was stuck beside a rather vocal Holden loving couple.
I had a colleague who was a Holden nutter. Boy could I rark him up easy when Ford won :-D
Strategy? V8's? Are you sure it wasn't accidental?
Good on you if you like the V8's - and I am sure you're not one of those fans that I referred to before. But watch BTCC and you'll see how primitive the V8's can be. TBH I only watch Bathurst as it has an endurance element. The Normal rounds have no interest for me though...
you need to pass that on to kathi ;)
Isn't that just Melbourne? Zing... :D
I don't get it? :-/
Hosting the Skype call I think. Bit obscure though!
She's good at calling up people on the off-chance.
LOL. It's all just preparation for Bathurst :-)
I get hold of what I can, when I can. I do remember the Nigel incident mentioned earlier. It used to go through my mind whenever I was going under Dunlop bridge at Oran Park.
I'm sure his Fiancé would appreciate that :-)
What would you say is the best way of working out the spread between the teams on a race weekend?:
a) Take the fastest lap time from that car over the entire weekend
or
b) Take an average of both drivers' fastest time over the entire weekend
What's your spreadsheet about BTW? I want to do some stats too, but I don't want to do anything you've already done ;-)
Mine is looking at both the fastest driver on average along with the drivers' field spread, and the same I did last year with the teams which was finding out which was fastest across the whole season and the overall field spread at the end of the season.
But I need to know what would be better for an accurate result.
You're asking the right man... are you on Skype? I'll call you...
Hard to say, given that there will always be one driver looking better (in some cases, much better) than the other.
But I would pick a). As it is, b) would be get seriously muddled by teamups like Alonso-Piquet and Hamilton-Kovalainen, where there is a significant (or even gaping) margin between the two.
Gavin has just suggested a 3rd way - taking the fastest 3 sector times set by a certain car and work out an ultimate laptime.
Pat sent me this link: http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/timing.aspx
Although I don't know if Aus and Mal are still available...
Hmm, doesn't look like it unfortunately.
someone out in sidepodland might have them saved?
the McLarens aren't ever that far apart when it comes to fastest laps, Heikki is often quicker, it's just Lewis is more consistent
I hope so - I tried to contact the FIA but the email bounced :-(
do you have a fax machine :)
what info are you after? am lost.
I'm afraid I don't - I hate the things :-(
This page: http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/on_event.aspx
But for Aus and Malaysia...
oh right. yeah they close that for non-accredited media a couple of days after each event.
what actual information contained therein are you after though?
Timing info like lap times and pitstop info. You probably have forgotten but in the pub on Wednesday I told you that I want to make some stats for you guys. I was thinking about trying to figure out how much faster a circuit gets over a weekend, how much effect the fuel loads actually have, how consistent a driver is, how long they stint for and how many overtaking moves they make during a race... How does that sound?
yup, i'd forgotten.
do you have a forix account?
No, but it looks like I might have to get one...
Possible, but I'm not so keen on this. That's because car setups will always be a compromise. A car may be set up to go fast through S1 but slow through S2 and S3. Or vice versa. Point is, the ultimate laptime may be unachievable with a single setup. And with the current slow-fast circuits we have (like Bahrain and Singapore), this problem is even more evident.
FLs, Lewis is comfortably ahead, I think.
How about Renault?
http://esporte.ig.com.br/grandepremio/inforace/
Hey, it was good enough for FOM to use during qualifying though...)
It's a fancy graphic, and a nice target to aim for, but in terms of looking back at it, it doesn't hold that much value. Not for me, anyway.
So somebody else already makes a program that does all of that stuff? :-(
Scott's looking at the overall car laptime. I actually suggested he try it and also try the other methods to compare, because one might sound good but may not look good on paper... Let him try it out and see where he goes with it...)
Ah... now that you put it that way, sure, go ahead! ;)
soz. was trying to be helpful. thought it contained the info you need?
You are being very helpful and it does contain the info I needed. Do you think I should still be making spreadsheets though?
It's up to you, really.
But the best question for me would be, what can you do with the data that would add value to the site Mr C gave out?
i see no trending or predictions on that site.
Bless you. OK, we're back on then. I'll use that and the FIA media centre to track the weekend progress and see what I can get out of it.
If you guys have any ideas on what you want, just let me know. Maybe if you guys are also doing stats we could collate them somehow?
iTunes randomiser has just landed on Wuthering Heights...
Why there?
Random, surely?
Haha! Silly me for asking. But what I meant was that I had no idea what Wuthering Heights should stand for. ;)
iTunes is suspiciously un-random when placed in shuffle mode. It's just not possible the way it keeps playing the same songs all the time!
Maybe it cheats and checks which songs you listen to more often a la Genius?
If I had a copy of the video I'd drop.io it for your amusement.
No, actually, I wouldn't. It's only slightly more embarrassing than the one of Mark Hughes pushing me at full tilt through a makeshift chicane in a wheelchair.
Hahahaha! That video with Mark Hughes (of Autosport, right?) is sooo worth seeing. ;)
I am going to need to know more about this story.
Hi everyone, how are we all. How it's as sunny where you are as it is here!
I don't think so. I managed to wipe all the play counts when transferring my library to the new Mac, so its penchant for alternating Bush with obscure Adam & The Ants b-sides (and Kasabian!) is inexplicable.
Ooooh! Quite the mix there. :D
it's dark here :D
you don't remember?
You haven't been.... outside, have you?
Nope. Was I drunk?
The hotel lobby was dark (they'd turned the lights off in the hope that we'd go away) so the video isn't great quality. All you need to know is that wheelchairs have a pronounced tendency towards understeer and hotel lobby furniture isn't a sympathetic structure to crash into. Still, we laughed...
I was forced to venture out this morning but that big shiny thing in the sky hurt my eyes so I'm back inside.
for journeyer and christine:
http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/71630
gimmie two mins and i'll find the relevant spc comments. shame on you for forgetting.
Beats the variety from the students next door. The fellow in the downstairs room has spent most of the afternoon playing the intro to a Fugees song (Ready or Not?) at different speeds, with some volume. I think he/she is not right in the head.
hold on a sec, you have a video of that too? why are they always bad quality?
Hehe.
Thanks Mr C. Karaoke. Hmmm...
next meetup you ought to be. tis only fair.
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/10/13/episode-80-his-nose-flew-over-his-head/#comment-126930
You know when you are playing computer games and your mind switches off and your thumbs run on auto pilot? Well I just looked up from the comments to find I'd paused GRID halfway through a lap that I don't remember starting. I finished it and got a new personal best!
Man, work is boring.
Afternnon all. Hows it goin?
Given that Honda is now Brawn, maybe Fernando should've heeded their call? ;)
Not too bad, just got in myself so *waves at everybody* :)
Driving elssons that go well but ahve 1 or 2 silly errors produce a strange feeling... im happy, but a little frustrated at the errors... but ewhh, it's a nice day and I've never had a lesson in such a busy time of the day, so it's all good :)
I lost track of the 'there was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Fernandoooo' puns I heard in the days after Singapore.
hehe. good thing i didn't hear that one too often.
Hey Lukeh, just thrashing my Lacetti round Long Beach, great choice of circuit! Getting turn 1 right is dead tricky though!
It's a horrible car and it's a horrible circuit!
But it's sooooo much fun to try :P I said last night to joe, the reason I chose both was because I really don't like either of the choices but it makes for a fantastic challenge. :)
I should say, this is relating to GRID. In real life I love watching racing at Long Beach but like you say Chris, that first corner on grid...
*shudders*
Nah, I like it. Difficult, but SO good when you get it right. It's pretty much won or lost on three corners though.
The times are noticeably closer this time, should be an interesting one.
Afternoon.
What a lovely day.
Spent most of it doing something that very few geeks do. I went outside with my MP3 player and a book and vegged out in the park.
Boo!
I wasn't even wearing jeans or combats.
I had a pair of cut-offs on! 8O
Christine drunk - now that would be something :D
That'll be the day. :P
*starts weeping*
my weather
Speaking of which, I still can't decide what is the best line to take through turn 3 (the one with the big chink of kerb in the middle of the road).
Looks a little nippy.
hate hate hate
yup. Half the time I end up trying to hit the breaks with more wheels off the ground than on it.
Now I've heard of Tilke doing some strange things, but that...
I fidn you can either creep around the kerb and play it safe or just march your way straight over and gain at least half a second, but at the same time, run a huge risk of losing the car in the corner :(
everything they say about Finland is true isn't it ;)
You get a pretty good look at it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kagxCM3Fcd0
I usually go for the latter but it's always a gamble. Trouble is, if you go over the kerb and do it too well, you end up going far too fast for the next turn.
Also, look at the difference on the HUD map on the bottom left to see the huge difference in speed you get from going straight over, like he did, or going around, like the AI did.
I've tried to follow the world record ghost to see what it does through there but I can never keep up to get a decent look!
I am so rubbish at driving games but youtube videos always make me want to play them
This is exactly what I was about to say, am loading up GRID now :D
tempted to buy it, I am :D
Get involved! GRID is great fun, you can really throw the cars around unlike simulation type games.
That's a tricky one...
I'll have to have a hunt around and see if I can find it cheap!
I've given up, I've seen enough of the tire wall at turn one for a while.
That, turn 1, and the 90 degree right hander under the bridge.
My best time is wide at turn one and slightly wide at the left hander with a bit of grass on the exit (it;s the only corner with grass so you should get where I mean) so im using them as my areas of improvement..
Also, racing whilst listening to Michael Jackson is...
...interesting.
I know exactly where you mean, I've ruined many a good lap there!
Bad?
Right, enough listening to you lot. Let's see what laptime I can produce. ;)
Have just gone faster - 1:18.41 to beat Scott. ;)
Tonight's insane ramblings are proudly brought to you by Ben and Jerry's Caramel Chew Chew :D
First lap is a 1'18.96. Straight on it already.
1'18.53
HAVE THAT! 1'18.34! :D
Mmmmm.
Prefer chocolate fudge brownie, but Chew Chew is good too.
Had the choccy one last time :-)
Take that, Sunshine. :P
Now hear this - 1'17.71! :D
... 3 red lights.
Bugger.
Now you're showing off. :P
how come there are no piccies in drop.io of these uber fast times? is there another way of seeing who's fastest?
1'17.66
Am on it.
We obviously all trust each other enough to know :P Although you can check the online leaderboards in the game if people upload their times to xbox live
Our times keep changing, so there's no point in taking a photo of each one...
that is a god time for a lacetti around ANY track :)
wouldn't it be a record of your improvements?
Taken a pic of my time, and will be uploading on drop.io momentarily.
*chokes*
what?!
Thankully my 360 has come back on since them, phew.
whassat mean?
It's known in XBOX terms as the "Red Ring of Death"
Well, there it is
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dsc00301-jpg
Xbox has 4 green lights on the front to indidicate how many controllers are connected in. If three of these appear red, then your 360 is dying or is dead. Usually it doesnt come back after they appear but I got lucky this time...
Oh I heard about that - some kind of fatal hardware fault... but what causes it?
Overheating mainly, I think.
That looks like a very different Long Beach to the one they raced on yesterday...
Design faults.
Sony :D
It's the 'Classic Circuit' apparently. All the other versions are on there as well though.
?
There's a trick with towels you can do that fixes it temporarily.
Sony make Playstation, microsoft make Xbox, and are the big main compeititors of video gaming alongside Nintendo, but they don't get ionvolved as they're jumping about in their money from the Wii :P
No overheating on PS3. ;)
Reinforced unit needed instead. It's larger than the old Xbox was. :D
I've got full PC's smaller than that!
Hmm... can't you just wait a day or is it due to dust accumulation?
Basically, Sony kinda tricked Microsoft into releasing the 360 too early. They said the PS3 was going to be out before Christmas 2005, so Microsoft rushed the 360 out in November to beat it. Sony then decided they were going to leave it a year instead, leaving the 360 on the market without Microsoft having tested it thoroughly enough. That is why roughly one in six 360's fail, meaning Microsoft had to extend the warranty to 3 years, costing them millions
Hmm. I'm not familiar with that layout!
If you are very lucky it is. At the other end of the scale, it can overheat so much that the motherboard melts and warps.
That's very effin clever!
You need a spare room for those bloody things!
Yes, for the record, I'm not a PlayStation fan :P
That said, Sony is still beating Microsoft in units sold - if I remember correctly. Which can't be good news for MS.
It's not that big. I'd rather that then have it shut down on me. And it still looks better. ;)
Only in Japan, Microsoft can't give the things away over there. World wide at the end of last year it was just over 20 million PS3s, just under 30 million 360s, and 45 million Wiis.
Sadly not.
Current rough sales figures:
Wii - 50 million consoles
Xbox 360 - 28 million consoles
PS3 - 21 million consoles
Oops. But wait - GT5 hasn't come out yet. Surely that will save Sony's bacon?
The wii is great for fun games that involve movement, but sucks at normal games!
It is larger than the Xbox - that all the PS2 users used to take the widdle out of for being huge...
Looks better? Only if you dust it frequently. ;)
The Wii is the only current gen console I still have connected to the TV.
Xbox360 and PS3 are both boxed up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7PhJp3ciRQ
If that were me, it would be the PS3 out there with GT5 Prologue loaded.
But then that's me... ;)
I didn't... My PS2 is massive...
I think it dusts itself! Still looks brand new!
That's what they said about Metal gear Solid 4, and LittleBigPlanet, and Uncharted, and Killzone 2, and Devil May Cry 4............
My cousin played Metal Gear Solid 4 and that is the worst acting I have seen. Ever!
The secret with Wii is to only buy games that were made specifically for it. Any multi-platform games are almost always better on 360 or PS3.
Oh, and never ever buy a mini-games collection.
GT5 is different. It just is. ;)
Same here. But I only have a Wii ;-)
I like Wii Sports, Wii Fit and I just got Skate 2. But the others are a little ... well... unsuited to the wii I reckon :-(
Hideo Kojima (producer and director) really needs to start making films. Nobody wants to sit through a 30 minute cut-scene in a game.
mariokart?
I can definitely recommend Boom-Blox. Especially good for families.
I watched a video on youtube of the first mission, got bored and looked for something else. There was so little gameplay and so much cutscene.
Always a good move :D
Though if you have a DS, Mario Kart on that is as good as it gets.
We still havent set up a mario kart wii tourney despite the original thing beign talked about agggges ago...
We should get on that.
Sure is!
GT5 is the only console racing game that gets close to rFactor.
Only without damage.
That's coz half the people still haven't bought it and a few interested people have been a bit busy...
rFactor's damage ain't exactly to write home about either
I've played Prologue.
No it isn't
*heads off to find his Grand Prix Legends disc again*
It IS Prologue for a reason - it's not quite the finished product yet.
A mile better than GT5 though. I saw a video of the Ferrari F1 on there crashing at a couple of hundred mph and it just bounced off a wall and carried on.
Which begs the question, why release it?
mmoooonneeyyyyy!
Because they got WAY TOO delayed with the real GT5, so they had to release something to appease the fans.
Money!
that too. :D
eeeeeeeexactly. Trust me Journeyer the full game will be more or less identical to Prologue.
And Money. :D
i doubt it will be - they will have made at least some changes to the engine.
even so, it won't be identical - lots more cars and circuits - TG test track too, right?
Ohh yes please! Now that would be worth a race or two!
That'd be silly?
Bug fixing?
Watch some crashes in GRID. That is the game engine they are using for the new F1 game.
Can't fricking wait.
With just more tracks and cars - It'll otherwise be almost exactly the same as GT, GT2, GT3 and GT4 but prettier.
For sure - maybe some enhancements too?
Apparently so, they have struck some deal with the BBC to download Top Gear videos in the game or something.
:D
I mean the way it looks and plays. It will have millions more cars and tracks.
Nothing drastic. The engine probably won't be changes much if at all.
there are some brilliantly bizarre crashed in GRID mind you, from experience for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWYHjyCO0Ts
:D not that I'm complaining, great fun.
Pile-ups on street circuits = amazing.
I do have a complete 1966 update for it saved somewhere. Looks great - not as polished as some recent games, but when you've got a Brabham BT11 on your left, and Eagle Westlake on your right, a Ferrari 312 in behind you, a Honda RA273 in front of you and you are in a Lotus 33 heading towards the first corner at Monza...
Who cares that it's not as pretty as modern racing games. It runs better and more importantly, is more realistic.
Speaking of realism, these quotes from the Codemasters developers are well worth a read. The level of detail they are going into is like nothing in an F1 game before.
That video you made is a bit surreal and weird...
I must say, I'm not sold on GRID and I hope the F1 game is better...
What about the 1969's and the Thundercars?
I've played many many games from many many developers over the years and there is nobody I would trust more with the F1 licence. If they can't do the sport proud, nobody can.
Only went as far as 1968 tbh.
Prefered the earliest preDFV and the non-corporate cars. :)
They also made micro machines.
So they're insta-awesome. ;)
In fact, a quote from an executive producer at Codemasters:
I'm hoping for a decent F1 Management Sim again.
Getting bored of waiting for Grand Pric Racing Manager to come out of alpha and get released. :(
Woah... that sounds amazing...
*looks at SI Games*
F1 Manager wuld be tremendous...
GPM2? Never can get bored of that. But I would really like a new, modern version as well.
Yup. This is the one that really caught my eye:
That would be ok, but they have spent years building their Player DB, and I don't think they could switch to the F1 style that easily.
Played it far too much.
Still playing RTL Team Manager - it's almost utterly rubbish, but at least it's modern.
This will annoy some of you:
So if you ain't fastest in our GRID challenge, don't worry too much about it ;-)
Good evening good people of sidepodland
Evening Jackie :)
Hi Christine, are you and Mr C both well?
I did sport that and I'm taking a lot of solace in it!
You'll like this then
*spot
I am very good. Mr C is still suffering, but doing okay.
Hey Jackie ;)
RG .. have you got a man crush on Timo?
You haven't noticed?
erm .. now that you mention it
I thought you'd been hiding it very well.
I am wondering what I am going to have for dinner, eating can sometimes be a real chore
What are your options?
Howdy all, anyone had a nice day??
Has Mr C been let out yet?? :P
I'll start to worry when it says RG - Can't do two minutes without Bernie :D
Hmmm. Almost 1/3rd of the way through the year and still in Alpha.
Not holding out much hope.
:D It be worse if I said Flav
Have some coffee and some chocolate, make a sandwich .. cook something, except I can't be bothered.
Sandwiches are always good.
He was around earlier, still not feeling well though.
Ooh err yikes .. do we know who did those pictures yet and is it safe to go to the dropio?
The worst one is on page two now.
What I want to know is why they are there in the first place, it's like "make my day suckers"
hehe ok, send him my well wishes/vibes :D
Sidepodhugs?
Everybody say aww .. does he like Panda's?
Yupp :D
Umm... I get the impression he does not, more's the pity.
Just finished all the data for Malaysia on my spreadsheet and looking at the teams, before yesterday's race, the nearest car to Brawn on average was Red Bull, but by nearly 4 tenths.
I take an average of the field gaps over the season by the way.
Oops, I tell a lie, it's Toyota. But it's still a fraction under 3 and a half tenths.
Your a bit behind things aren't you?
I've been doing other things today you know. ;)
Right, now for the China data.
Just watched the Toyota nose change from yesterday again on drop.io. So impressive.
Where can we find the sheet?
The Finnish guys sound just as excited as the Danes :D
I'm still working on it. I will post it up when I've finished China.
I'm very interested in seeing it, not the least of which because I don't want to double up on what you're doing when I do my stats ;)
By the way,
18 degrees today , and the sun's just setting (At 8:30)!
I've just been reading Journeyers post on whether Lewis or der Seb is the reinmeister. I have to agree that Vettel is certainly equal to or perhaps better than Lewis, especially considering the cars he's been driving. Mind you I can hear no wrong about Sebastian .. he's so cute, I want to adopt him as my good luck panda
Did you buy that website Gavin?
Buy a website? Which one?
I thought you mentioned buying one for your stats or is my memory wonky?
Ah. We mentioned me buying a FORIX Subscription, though it may not be needed. Check this out: http://esporte.ig.com.br/grandepremio/inforace/
Ooh that looks fun, much better than the FIA lap sheets
That's really dead cool :D
I'm going to use it to find trends and see how the track changes thru the weekend, how long stints are etc....
That will be so useful if you do
That's what I thought...
Just listening to MOTD2. According to the commentator, in the last 20 years Tottenham and Newcastle have had 28 Managers! Sheesh!
Meh, when you had Sir Alan as chairman, that was always going to happen.
Christian Gross, I've seen better managers in non-league football, your not worth it, and I'm not sad to say, Your Fired.
I was waiting for your reply ;)
Man, Paul Gascoigne looks ravaged! The guy is 42 and looks 62 :( Sad...
It's sad really, how someone his age can look so frail. You can barely understand him too but maybe that's just because of strong geordie dialect...
Still makes me sad to see him like that. :(
Yeah, awesome player, pure legend. Real shame to see him like that :( I'm glad though that he is getting better
Nah he can't speak properly anymore... it's not just the accent you know :(
Here's hoping so.
Did anyone see him on Soccer AM on Saturday? He was really entertaining but you could tell everyone was a little sad to see what he's like nowadays. He still seems surprised to hear people calling him a legend though, it was nice to see him looking genuinely happy for once.
I did. It was sad to see him like that, but calling him a legend is nothing but true. Gave me a nice excuse to watch that free kick against Arsenal
I still can't get enough of his goal against Scotland, they must have showed it 20 times on Saturday! I loved it when he said that even though Wembley has been rebuilt, that Scottish defender is still rooted to the spot.
Poo .. boring footy :(
Quiet here tonight. It's amazing how computer games and football can kill a conversation.
I'm writing my guest post ...)
Hehehe.
w00t!
Sorry, what is this place again?
I have no excuse. :(
I HATE football
I'm sulking slightly after Batracer. I've been off for 3 days, then my teammate wins two races in a row! I feel like Webber... (Ironic, as I'm in Red Bull!)
I'm kidding. Well done Scott!
What other sports do you like?
Can you dropio a pic of you pulling a sadface next to your red ring of death? ;)
Thanks Chris :)
Right I've finished the spreadsheet. Will pop it up on drop.io now :)
None .. only F1
I'm odd. I like F1 and football. I'm sick of rugby though!
How dare you mock my trauma! :D
I'm trying to give you something to do?
Whats the red ring of death?
See earlier ;)
Dude, my computer exploded on the parade lap of the Malaysian Grand Prix!
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/2009-f1-averages-and-field-spreads-post-china-xls
If you get confused about the lap times, I've done them in seconds as opposed to minutes and seconds. Makes it much much simpler to calculate.
OK, Two questions:
1) Can I combine that with the stats I plan to make?
2) You want some nice graphs for it?
1) Sure, as long as you put them in a different spreadsheet to mine.
2) Ooh yes please :)
Some excellent stuff by the way!
Cool, will graph.io them for you later.
Thanks :)
You know when Massa was leading in Hungary and his car broke with a few laps to go? If you have had the red ring of death, you know exactly how he felt.
Wonder if Luke will get near a 1:17. Wonder if I will......:P
I'd kill for anything sub 1.19 at the moment.
NO chance mate. No chance.
Anyone likely to be on GRID later?
I think we should do a Mario Kart laptime challenge. I remember at one point there was an attempt of a tournament, so I know there are quite a few Mario Kart owners.
Who still needs time to buy it or do we have enough to start a tourney?
tbh I think Mario Kart would be far better if we had races rather than lap times.
Dunno. I've got the game, but I haven't added myself to the wiki due to it being in the middle of my exams. If we do it over the summer, I should be ok.
According to the wiki there are 6 people with it, plus me makes 7.
Possibly. I'm a lot more likely to be on during weekends though.
I think I have a decent chance of beating Dom's current time as I did make mistakes on my current fastest. 1:17.6 may require precision to the millimetre.
I don't stand a chance then!
If I remember correctly, the maximum you can have in an online match is 8
No, it might be 12...
Are some people still struggling with turn 1? Any other corners?
*Goes to check*
I'll be honest, I have it, but just can't be bothered to go online yet :)
Turn 1 wasn't an issue for me. The key is to brake earlier and get as close to the inside kerb as possible. You can clip it but not too much.
Ok I made some pretty stupid photoshops concerning Formula 1 but I'm stunned at one I just found of the 3 band members of Muse photoshopped onto Beyonce's body that looks horribly real. Scarily real. :(
I'll be on later if you guys wanna race :)
That's what I've been doing, I've pretty much got it nailed now.
Might pop on, aye.
Has anyone made a video of their lap?
Hmmm, not sure I've got the means to do it.....
The corner I was having trouble with was Turn 5 under the bridge round the back of the circuit. The shadow means you just have to pick a line, stick to it and hope you don't clip the inside or hit the outside wall or both.
I love that corner. It's ridiculously tight but I've got my breaking point down now. I think I'm still losing time on the last turn actually.
Stick a video camera in front of your telly? I'm not fussy on quality here ;)
Man, my Super Season Grid has had quite a shake up after China. I've done the first 11 drivers and so far there's only 1 non-mover - Button.
If only I had one ;)
Though saying that, I guess I could use my MacBook.
Blimey, has anyone read GP+ yet .. its full of the stuff from the Science Museum
Is it any more interesting in print?
ahh, cool. will check it out. he did mention it during this weeks podcast, but how many pages does it stretch to?
about 10 .. and no its still as boring but the photos are nice
I'm actually a bit disappointed by the mag to be honest
I don't know, he works his backside off to publish it mere hours after the race and you still haven't bothered to read it. Shame on you. :D
anyone seen the gpweek headline? after the brawn again headlines....i didnt see this one coming...
have you no idea how close to death i am?
dying i tell you.
in comparison to other weeks, or just generally?
Just generally I guess. The pictures are brilliant but there's not that much content apart from that
are you similar to me in that you like F1 mags to have pics and shorter storys? lol :P
And that makes me sad that I'm having a moan when he's such a cool guy to listen to on the podcasts
I like analysis
you should tell joe. he seems pretty responsive to feedback.
i love it for reasons relating to self publishing, micro-payments and the way emagazines are likely going to be the final nail in "physical" magazine's coffin (see autosport online vs. autosport mag for another example).
but what sort of things do you think it's missing and how would you improve it?
To be fair, he does do it in the three hours after the race and then uploads it.
Also, he did say it is there as a record of what went on, rather than the in-depth stuff, I think perhaps in the first show we did with him.
absolutely, and that is impressive on so many levels it puts anything i have ever written, or will ever write to shame.
it doesn't mean it's beyond improvement though.
The problem is that it just doesn't grab my attention, It's not the kind of mag that I can't put down. In fact its a 10 minute read and I don't go back to it.
i can see myself using it as a searchable resource for years to come, in a way that f1racing can't be used (because OSX cannot index paper content).
Don't get me wrong I'm not having a major bitch or anything, it's incredible that they can achieve that after a few hours but it's just not serious enough for my taste
It is true what Joe says, most race reports are fine the day after you have see the race, but months or years down the line they make no sense.
you should still tell him though.
there's no chance he's going to find your comment amongst 1,000 attempts at a grid time. let him know in his comments.
it's the same with anything we do, if no-one says, how will we every improve?
You look at James Allen's youtube thing .. most of us didn't care for it but he had loads of compliments on his site. I feel that's probably true for GP+ as well, maybe I'm the exception to the rule
absolutely, and i'm even thinking we could do with buying last year's back issues too.
my mac still needs to index images better though. it will happen eventually, but what i want now is the ability to search for all pics of red cars embedded in pdfs in the same way i can search for any mention of ferrari.
the day that happens, i don't think i'll ever buy paper again.
You don't have to, they are all on the site for free
really? wow. brb.
doesn't change a thing. feedback is important, positive or negative.
I think Scott's won this week. I can just about get into the 1:19s at the moment. I was consistently in the 1:19s last night though, so I'm still mightily determined.
Early days, early days.....
I'm gonna give it another try tomorrow...
Alright, I'm betting on you then. :P
I'm back from work at 3.00 tomorrow with nothing to do all afternoon......
A foolish move :D
You do now :D
Sidepodspace:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/04/cassinis_continued_mission.html
it's only monday! :P
have whitmarsh's brawngp comments been discussed today?
"It would now be hypocritical, because it happens to be painful for us because [BrawnGP] are competitive to not want to give them a proportion of the distribution under Concorde."
"We need some calmness within FOTA - there's a FOTA meeting called for after Bahrain and we need to calm down."
thank the lord for common sense. link
WOW.
thats amazing
Here here.
Nope, but he didn't say anything other than the obvious... :)
A bloody 1:17! Just seems an incredibly high bar to pass at the moment.
Oh the powah... :D
The times will come down. :)
Especially as the lap record in an F3000 is only a 1.07!
Was saying about this to earlier with lou, it's nice to see that he actually has a bit of sense to say this. Plus he mentioned about supporting Brawn still with mercedes even though they're obviously the better car at the moment which is good, nice to see that FOTA will be comming together and actually sitting down to calm things down a bit.
It was always going to get heated though wasnt it? It's no surprise we've already had kerfuffles between teams
the important thing is that they're willing to go on record and say it though. before that it was just flav bashing brawn and brawn not responding.
it was and haug is spot on when he says:
"If they got a different interpretation of the rules we need to question ourselves – did we all influence the rules in the right way, were they written in the correct way"
and the answer clearly is "no". it does occur to me that flav is best mates with bernie, and bernie no like FOTA...
hehe. We're just a little competitive... ;)
it's not a complaint. just an observation :)
Evening all. I read an interview with Flav in Motorsport recently and he talked a lot of sense, was quite impressed. He seems to have lost the plot a bit with this.
Hope someone beats it, the look on his face would be good. :P
any idea why that might be? is it a money thing as he suggests, or because his chubby car isn't fast enough?
He basically said what was said in the comments (I forget who said it... ), Flav wouldn't care how much money they had if they didn't build a better car than his.
Chubby (lol) car isn't fat enough and he needs a sponsor to replace ING next year i reckon. A little desparation and attention seeking perhaps.
He often says things without thinking... and he likes the attention probably.
Fast enough, not fat enough lol :(
I don't see him complaining about Ferrari and they get more money from Bernie than anyone else.
:D
But his point is they shouldn't get the money because they are a new team (even though everyone agreed they should get the money so it's pointless argument.)
And that, my friend, is the wonderful world of F1,
http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/04/f1-2009-super-season-grid-post-china.html
Scott,
good stats and a great blog post - you've really analysed that data well. I reckon you should make that a staple for your blog :D
Thanks. I intend to do so ;)
Good stuff :)
I'm getting consistently into the 1:18s now with a current best lap of 1:18.19.
Oh dear. Another leading formula one person lying. I wonder if he will be charged
Franck has a hairdressers? I wonder when Christine is going to Spain to get her hair done.
it's a male hairdressers.
http://drop.io/meandpage22/asset/panda-and-page-22-jpg
brilliant! :D:D
Lovin the panda :D
We love you panda. We really do
You could get your hair done and Christine could go with?
bugger!
But he's ill, and when not ill, he's so good looking (presumably) he doesn't need a hair cut
:D
Mr C you went out like that?
that's not me.
Yeah right. Who else do we know that owns a Panda suit and is not afraid to use it? ;)
Christine? :S
Of course. Its a panda
nope.
it is our panda suit, yes.
Ollie?
:D
please please please tell me its Christine's mother in law :D
If he told me he was ill and then started parading around in a panda suit, I'd be a bit annoyed.
oh right.
he's too busy to host a panel, but we just can't get him out of that panda suit?
;)
I'd be worried.....
NO WAY! :D :D :D
:) so was it you? :P
:D
Gavin,
I have only been ill twice since I left school. Once was chickenpox and the other was one of these things which gave multiple symptoms including massive lethargy, sore everything etc etc etc. I went to the quack and did blood tests. All negative. He suggested more tests as he had no clue what was wrong. Another week another set of negatives. I went for 6 weeks ad had 6 lots of negatives for absolutely everything. The only thing he found out in 6 visits was I had a high white blood cell count which meant either whatever I had was making white blood cells or my body was making them to fight whatever it was.
The last time I saw him he said there was one test he could run but not to worry if it came back positive because his dog had had the disease and it was fine now. By that time I was fed up and feeling fine so I never went back. Many years later I have never had a problem.
There is a lot that medicine does not understand. If you feel fine don't worry.
No way. I can still taste the fluff from Christmas.
I dunno, when i'm ill I tend to chuck on a lion costume, sometimes giraffe if I'm feeling peaky.
He could always have used the excuse that he needed to warm up a bit ;)
:D :D
way.
:D
i wish i was in the room when you asked her :D
What odd lives you lead :D
:D :D
(it's comments like this that explain why i have such an embarressingly high comment count)
i should say something worth while.....
erm... hi.
Thanks for the encouragement Steven. I do feel fine, and as far as I am concerned all is well :)
i didn't!
am assuming it was taken over the weekend, but it's nothing to do with myself or christine, aside from taking it out of an email and uploading to drop.io.
we are as stunned as you.
hi lou :p
:D awesome!!
thats amazing, pure genius
I would never imagine my mother in law doing that!
Pee on command?
Wow, someone's been smoking the bamboo!
That's your job Tinkerbelle ;)
*blush*
Anyone watching Omid Djalili on BBC1? :D
I know I'm anonomoys as well. But, thats not me...
No, what's that?
He's a comedian ;)
He's a comedian, quite funny too
He's a man :P
A new series of his own show. It's great so far :D
Fake Alonso on Twitter:
"Party at Flavio's last night. Woke up today with only one eyebrow."
:D
:D :D
I thought they were looking particularly bushy in China.
Tiff was innocent.
I like Tato Head's reply too:
@FakeAlonso Don't worry, your remaining brow makes up for the lack of one missing. I once did that myself and no-one noticed at all.
Stating the obvious is all the rage today. From Webber's BBC blog:
You don't say.
If Scott and Gavin are still looking for data try http://www.visionf1.com/
Ah I'm gonna have to send my Xbox off. This is ridiculous. Sorry guys but regrettably I'm pulling out of the GRID stuff until further notice :(
Booooooo :(
Just make sure you get them to send you a coffin for it, apparently they have trying to get people to buy their own boxes to send it back in.
Yeah you do, I've had to send mine off twice before including once in January this year :/
No sector times?
If you pester them they'll send you a box for it.
I technically have a box for it, the one they sent in jan when sending it back to me ;)
Wow. Third time now? Shame the 360 can be so fragile. I leave mine on a lot when I'm not even on it, and mine's been fine so far, had it since December 07.
How tragically convenient!
I read online about a guy who needed to send his 360 back but they said he had to provide a box himself, so he was trying to get enough people with broken consoles to club together and hire a shipping container to send them all to Microsoft at once. Don't know if he ever succeeded though.
You're one of the lucky ones.
I've only had to send mine away twice and the first time, they sent me a replacement.
Only twice? The fragile nature of some 360s is incredible. Should not happen with a company like Microsoft.
have you met vista?
I'll admit, the 2nd time was because of the RROD.
Mine has only broken once but I have a feeling it's on its way out again....
:D
although vista has been good for me recently. When it was first released though, yeeeeeeeeeesh.
Windows to windows viisstasnxnjmxbgssbphhzzzzzzzzzzzzzz* computer turns self off, grows legs and runs away*
Somewhere in the comments earlier I explained how a lot of the blame can be placed with Sony.
Yeah, you said about how Sony forced Microsoft to rush the 360's release by tricking them into thinking the PS3 would be released at the same time. That way Sony could see the console's problems and work around them to make the PS3 a much more solid machine on it's release.
Have you heard that when Windows 7 is released, retailers will still have to offer Vista and XP with new PCs? Doesn't fill you with confidence does it?
7? Is that the new OS from Microsoft then? Haven't heard it announced to be honest.
Yup. Little to no issues with the PS3, tonnes of issues with 360. There is even a new kind of failure since the system update last year.
Yep its supposed to be Vista, but good.
Dont get your hopes up. ;)
it's meant to be released at the end of the year isn't it? some retailers still offer windows XP.. i say some because they are very hard to find... certainly none that i could find.
Saw it running today. It's worse.
People go for XP over Vista because 99.9% of all problems on XP can be fixed whereas Vista's...cant.
I'm pretty sure Dell said they would be due to 'popular demand'
Links at all?
Chris, done my practice laps. You done a fantastic job with the setup.
My eyes.
Vista decided to dismantle itself on my Dad's PC a while back. I spent hours trying to get everything working again and ended up having to re-install it.
Worst. Day. Ever.
Speaking of new things being released, I think all music and iPod lovers will be on the edge of their seats waiting for the one thing that could kill off iTunes - a Spotify app for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
Someone I know is the tech guy for a secondary school, he's got himself a copy.. he says the worst thing about it is the new WMP
I don't think I have seen a photo from the whole Cassini mission that hasn't been fabulous.
Vista can even fail when you do Windows Updates. Absolutely ridiculous.
WMP is bad enough on vista! They made another new one?!
Just loaded your setup, nicely done!
@ Joe :D
Yep, and Media Centre. Awful.
Although I'm running XP so I'm completely oblivious to everyday problems with Vista. :-)
yeah dell are the only people i know who offer XP... tis sad that i didn't get to choose my laptop... i would have has a lovely Dell with windows XP.
I have XP on my MacBook (via BootCamp) for a few Windows programs and I've never had a problem with it. Although that is probably because I have never taken it online.
I got Movie Maker Beta with the new Live Messenger. It's just bog standard and the only new thing I can see is - you can add text on top of videos and put it anywhere. I know it's only a beta but come on!
Maybe the panda is wearing the panda costume as a disguise.
If it was not one of the inhabitants of sidepodcast towers my bet would be Giggles
you know we have to get him to do that now...
again, Movie Maker is as unstable as jelly on a washing machine as it is; its almost as if they want to put less stuff in a newer version so it actually ruddy works! And even then it barely works!!
i want a macbook pro... i was shopping today and i ended up staring at a macbook for over half an hour. i really really want a mac....
i guess it depends on what you use itunes for. but does spotify do podcasts? does it do high def movies or even mobile apps?
i've never used spotify, but itunes is by far the most used app i have after safari.
Until you make the sidepodapp of course.
Meanwhile iMovie just gets better and better :D
Granted, it only does music. But in terms of music, why would you pay for it when you can create playlists and be safe in the knowledge that wherever you are, whatever computer or iPhone/iPod Touch you use, you can log in and have them there to play instantly?
:D
Now that HAS to go on the list. :D
You probably don't need a Macbook Pro. Did you look at Aperture?
but... the macbook pro looks so pretty..... aperture?
again, not having used it, i can't say for certain. however...
- the ipod touch only has a net connection when i'm at home or near a wifi network. how does spotify work when i'm unable to connect?
- i have the last.fm app on the ipod touch, i've been using it for about 6 months, i can create playlists of songs i like for free, yet still i buy tracks. how is spotify different from lastfm?
I've already got a link to the doohickey on my iPhone, the logo looks damn good on there ;)
yay :)
http://www.apple.com/aperture/
same with me and my ipod touch :)
Me said ipod Touch My work is done :)
in the interests of balance. i've used both aperture and lightroom, but i prefer lightroom:
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/
;)
Spotify is better at finding new stuff. Last.fm is better at being a community and is a lot more user-friendly IMO.
I stopped using playlists and deleted them, I really ought to make some again, try both out.
I know there's plenty of iTunes users here. I assume some of you at least buy stuff from the iTunes Store. Does anyone here but me torrent music? If I was going to buy music, I'd buy the physical copy, which I do get sometimes anyway. Really couldn't justify paying for a digital version.
after exams i need to get myself a job....
BTW I've recently been adding people as friends on Last.fm. I'm PWotton if anyone wants to add me back, you can find me in the Sidepodcast group.
Nothing beats buying the CD and ripping it in whatever format you like.
I agree with the buying the cd, because having the physical copy there, as well as the case and booklet, that's great. But I wouldn't do that for any album, I'd usually "acquire" it first and then think about buying it.
Noooo! Please say it was Aperture 1.x Version 2 is much much better than Lightroom.
Aperture + Photoshop Elements is cheaper than Lightroom alone and does everything I need and more.
For me, iTunes is for podcasts and other free stuff.
nope. aperture 2 versus lightroom 2.
adobe has better features, responds faster to new camera specs (aperture still doesn't support our lumix months after it's release), and is actually faster to use on my mbp.
lightroom has better presets, a better browser and integrates better with other adobe apps.
what does aperture do well?
why take two applications into the shower...?
You got me on the Lumix, I've no idea why it takes so long for the support to appear.
Things I like:
Quick Preview - makes it work a lot faster when browsing and rating.
Smart Albums
Integration - the ability to open jpeg versions of all my files in pretty much any other application.
Full screen mode with the Head-up Displays
Tethering.
Because you still need Photoshop for layer editing. The point is I no longer need Photoshop CS.
adobe bridge
as in, iphone tethering?
fair enough on the other points, either i didn't see them, or just didn't need them in aperture.
neither do i. but i already have fireworks for website stuff and that does layers just fine.
i guess it depends on your workflow, but i know lou has photoshop, therefore i'm just making her aware that other options are also available.
But that's another program, Aperture does it all in one place.
No, camera tethering. It only works for a limited number of dSLRs (Lou will be OK with her Nikon I think), but you plug a camera in via USB, take a picture and it appears in Aperture automagically.
How hard can it be to keep track of things in a space station when everything you do is videoed and discussed on the radio before, during and after?
How do you lose a flywheel on a space station?
Music recommendations were requested in the last.fm group, so I added some.
I just joined but I don't really know what I'm doing so far....
yes and no. it integrates well and retains an almost identical look and feel. it's not like you have to learn another application. also, if you have photoshop (or in my case fireworks), it provides a common link between the two.
like i said, depends on your workflow.
surely that's only useful if you own a photography studio??
Download the last.fm app. Open your music player, or go to an artist page. Play music. After a short time refresh your profile page and watch the stats roll in. Eventually it'll narrow down some recommendations for you.
ace. i must remember the last.fm group!
Eventually meaning a period of a week or two.
and you'll need to tell me the name of the track that opened the live stream yesterday :-)
Spotify supports Last.fm, you know. ;)
oooh. missed that comment. one second.
It does indeed. It's much more random than Last.fm. Last.fm's player adjusts itself according to your taste, and you can have all sorts of tags influencing it. Spotify isn't as advanced at that.
what does it do that last.fm doesn't though? am confused why it's of interest.
Yep. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one then :)
I guess that's the main use, but can also be useful on location e.g. event photography.
Morning chaps! How are we all?
you'd set up your mbp at, say, autosport? seems crazy to me, but fair enough.
I don't know really. I just use it so I can listen to music without having to paying for it.
I just did likewise
Nah, I mean parties or weddings
having tried both, i'd encourage everyone to try both. demos are free and available from both companies.
no question that apple created the market, but i think adobe have already trumped them and will improve faster. however, in the end, they'll both copy each others features.
How on earth did you get 3000 plays in 20 minutes?
Here's some differences between Spotify and Last.fm I found on a Wordpress blog:
last.fm limits the number of times you can listen to a song for free
Spotify inserts adverts between songs
last.fm generates a radio station based on an artist or a tag; so you won’t just get songs from the artist you named, you’ll also get songs from other artists. Spotify lets you play specific artists only, or just specific albums
last.fm automatically “scrobbles” your music and lets you re-find things you’ve played before
last.fm puts a lot of focus on the social elements, on sharing what you’ve scrobbled, on scrobbling in groups. It’s just as much social network as it is music service
Spotify does the reverse, it puts the focus on music. There are social aspects to it, but you have to hunt them down (they’re not obvious to start with)
hullo sean. did i mention i'm sick?
*shrug* It did something with iTunes, maybe it took the play count from there?
lol, you sound like Jeremy Clarkson "Ughh, I've got bird flu.." :p
"10 reasons why Spotify rocks"
http://www.here.org.uk/2009/01/10-reasons-why-spotify-rocks.html
Ah I think it syncs with ipods somehow.
Let's move!
i dooooo.
(hint - press the big play button)
Sorry Mr C :( Get well soon!
listening now. who are these?
fanx you.
Tellison. I LOVE them.
Sounds good
me likes. to answer your earlier question, the opening song is:
The Maine: We Change, We Wait.
Has anyone ever heard of putting two spaces between words when you're typing a report? Someone told me I should do it, but i think theyre waffling?
Ta. No freebie on Last.fm unfortch.
Tellison have their 2nd album out this year, I've only heard 1 track from it and it's very good.
Not between words, but some people like to put two spaces between sentences.
I've only heard of two spaces between sentences. But you might want to do 1.5 line spacing.
I always do that, thought everyone did tbh!
Yeah, Ive the 1.5 lines alright. I dunno what he was on about with the two spaces. Formatting's a right pain!
While we're all on last.fm, I'll plug my housemate.
http://www.last.fm/music/Charlie+Barnes
http://www.last.fm/music/Tellison/_/Wasp's+Nest
And with that, to bed! May be back later tomorrow again, will see if I do more work than I did today...
Nope. 1.5 or 2 line spaces between lines, otherwise it's one space between words, two after a full stop.
Imagine what it would look like if you used two spaces between every word?
This is what I do for my uni assignmentd and reports.
yup, it stems from typewriters and monospaced fonts. you shouldn't need to do it any more, but i still do as i'm a creature of habit :)
You should put two spaces after a sentence not a word.
Yeah, thats what I thought. Cheers guys :)
sorry, yes. between sentences, not words.
modern fonts mean that it's no longer necessary to even do that. html doesn't support double spacing anyway.
I know Word used to a single space between sentences as a grammatical error. I don't know if it still does cos i have used double spaces for years.
yikes!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_spacing
Whats this "typewriter" thing :P
True, but convention is that you do. Same as using capital letters to start sentences ;)
:D
i believe they are some kind of saving device as rthey allowed me to save my file on resident evil. apart from that, no idea. ;)
only us oldies. i don't think it's be taught that way in schools for sometime.
in fact doing it breaks most typographers designs and is frowned upon nowadays. i'll see if i can find a source.
two spaces after full stops.
two carriage returns between paragraphs.
two spaces at start of line to make a bullet point list if no 'bullet+indent' function, but only within a paragraph setting. Its common for bulleted lists to have 1 1/2 line spacing as well (so 2 line if already using 1 1/2 line).
Standard for 'reports' is to use 1 1/2 line spacing if point size is 14pt (possibly 12pt) and a sans serif font. 2 line spacing if point size used is 12pt or less and a serif font. If a combination of factors then usually convention demands 2 line spacing. Which is all great if you have a programme that will do it for you, or an old fashioned manual type writing with a line spacing setting (usually on the right hand side of the typewriter to avoid getting it bashed by accident).
ha!!
nope.
not any more.
can you use it for live commenting? if not i'm not interested :P
Think of a computer without driving games or sidepodcast. Can't see the attraction myself. :)
Good lord. Sounds horrific!
here's one post on the subject. but i've read better from others with more authority on modern typeface creation.
Who knew there was so much to formatting :o
Its still taught in schools - its in the national curriculum under 'ICT core skills'. It applies to *printed* materials, and to 'materials that may end up being printed for distribution or record'.
Probably about the only bit of the NC that I could, grudgingly, admit to being just about in agreement with then........
Mind you - most uni will now specify how you are to do things in the academic standards doc that you'll be given when you enroll..... so much for the 'old days' of finding out about 'academic presentation' the hard way (i.e. raiding the library and copying what the OU say to do and hoping that its acceptable to ones lecturers/tutors).
Apparently they need some kind of ribbon to work. Maybe they just like to look pretty?
everything i'm reading and have read on the subject of typography is suggesting it's a throwback to monospaced and typewriter fonts.
i think the world has moved on and left us behind on this one.
hehehehe!
You could, but the comments won't appear until you have placed the resulting paper into an envelope placed a stamp on the envelope, addressed it to Sidepodcast Towers (this could be tricky) and place into a post box
Then you'll have to wait for the envelope to be delivered and opened and the contents to be re typed or scanned into a computer for posting.
I estimate your comments will probably turn up for the next race.
A bit like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq8ZnQ95cKk
Daily posts could be difficult. And following conversations could be very awkward
You've just blown my mind.
What if we shout veeeeeery loud?
Lol
wonder if the post office would still manage to deliver with that address?
(stranger things have happened after all...)
someone even made a video on the subject. back in 2004.
wow
i know! about.com say double-spacing is bad. have yet to find anyone saying double-spacing is good. although they do concede you should do what makes you happy.
for me that's double-spacing, for christine i think it's single.
Whatever floats your boat suppose. Underlining is not a way of emphasising something....ooooops
Christine and 'me'
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Rockall
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Heading off now, night everyone :)
see ya lukeh.
night lukeh
I was thinking that they might need something a teeny bit more accurate than that though...
Hmmm - wonder if there would be a c/o one racing team or another option?
Or of course there is always the Royal Mails 'electronic delivery' service. Usually its supposed to go the other way (turn your electronic file into a hard copy that goes in the post local to its destination) but I'm sure that RM could work it backwards :-D
Sometimes I think NASA don't get the laws of physics. They are planning on sending an unmanned plane the size of a Cessna to Mars. Not flying there as an aeroplane. They have a slightly better grasp of physics than that. It flies there folded up in a rocket and is dropped in an aero shell(think of an Apollo capsule). While it is dropping at 17,000mph the aero shell opens and the plane comes out, unfolds itself and starts to fly like a plane.
Unfolding into the shape of a plane at 17,000 mph does not sound to me like the most mechanically sensible way to do this.
Am I being stupid, or can you only listen to the last.fm app if you leave it open? If so, that's rubbish.
how would it work if it were closed?
Well I was hoping it would be like iPod where it would carry on playing while I was doing other things like using safari or texting.
The only thing i can think of is that space is a vacuum, so no air or gravity, so no aero force or otherwise acting on the plane, so that shouldnt be an issue. And if they do it at that 17,000mph they can save the fuel they'd need to re-accelerate it back up to speed.
ahh, sorry, on the iphone/touch? that's a limitation apple have imposed on developers, rather than the fault of last.fm.
i think they're working on it for iphone 3.0 though.
It is going to do this in the atmosphere of Mars not in free space. The Martian atmosphere is thinner than Earth's so it would not be the same as doing it here but if I was going to design aa mission that took a year to get somewhere I would want something with a good deal less chance of failing.
Bah, that's pants. I wanted to be listening AND commenting!
july... i think :)
Sounds like a great way of making a new crater to me.
Summer, according to the Keynote.
How baffling. Whats the gravity like on Mars?
The no background processes is there to help preserve battery life.
Is that only on the new model or is it a firmware update for old ones as well?
hmmm.
38% of our gravity
Strong enough suppose. Whats the mission called so i can google it? :)
Erm. Don't know. Just saw it on NASA TV
am assuming it's old models too. i think the dev kit available now works on current models.
lol
Cool beans
Im sure they've thought long and hard about it anyway and theres more than just some unfolding going on.
iPhone/iPod Touch software 3 will run on all iPhone/iPod Touch models. There will be a charge for the iPod Touch upgrade, iPhones get it free.
Some features will not work on the Original iPhone because it has a different Bluetooth chip.
Found it http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/k-4/home/F_StopMars_student.html
Wow, it got late all of a sudden, I should get some sleep. Night everyone.
see ya chris.
Cant find much on how theyre going to unfold the wings on google. Twould be interesting to see.
Today at work I was painting doors and listening to my iPod when I heard a student start to yell to the teacher that his friend said the b word, my first thought was 'b word, what's he talking about I don't hear any buffering'. I guess that means I must be addicted to SPC:D
Loving this comment from Mr C last night:
So he remembers to add two spaces after every sentence, but capitals are a no-no!
And I loved this: http://drop.io/meandpage22/asset/panda-and-page-22-jpg
I really love that somebody did this. I really like the addition of the lead in the picture! Fantastic!
Is that a lead? I thought it was a stick of bamboo. Either way though, its still good.
Ugh - forgotten to post mine. :( Will do it by today or tomorrow, work permitting. :)
Good point... Not sure now.
That's not just somebody .. it's Christine's mother-in-law :D
Haha .. you should add that to the wiki :D
I do the two-space sentence starter too!
Any more info on this? Got a link or a release date?
Me three! :D
Have you been trained in British English or American English BTW?
The reason I ask is that you have an Indian accent but sometimes I hear amercanisms in it ;)
Most definitely American. :) We were an American colony for the better part of 40 years. We were only under the Brits for a year or less. :D
No surprise with the Americanisms... but Indian? You've gotta be kidding. :P Indian accent is soooooo far from our accent. :D
http://tinyurl.com/cns54t
Saw it on a friend's twit.
Checkmate. Brilliant. :)
That is a VERY good ad.
One wonders what Audi is thinking of their marketing people, though. They were just soooo asking for it. Hats off to BMW for seeing the opening to respond. ;)
Morning ladies and gentlemen :)
It's 9am and my work for the day is done other than having the monkey come and pick up the servers and take them to their new home.
Time to go see what films are on the SkyHD box.
Your accent is a little similar, don't you think? Having said that, you're the first person I know from your country, so what would I know? ;-) You do have a very clear and easy to listen to voice though!
I prefer these ones.
http://www.eatliver.com/bmw-audi-subaru-bentley/
They are also good.
A wee bit, perhaps? But I never wanted to get their accent! :P
Better than Allen and Legard, perhaps? I'd love to take their commentary mic. ;)
Hahahahahaha! Brilliant. Not sure if Bentley have anything to do with the other ads, though. :P
Morning all. New post:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/04/21/daily-21st-april-2009/