We had quite a relaxing weekend at Sidepodcast HQ, and I hope yours was of a similar nature. We are into a brand new week now, with Monday dawning probably quite dark and maybe even a little bit stormy. Here are some of the things we're talking about:

  • Mr C went a bit mad blogging yesterday, talking about the coverage that FOM provide compared to other motorsport series', plus a glimpse at that excellent 3D stuff we saw during the Abu Dhabi GP. He also wrote about those oh-so-unsuccessful overtaking regulations again, with a special mention to a special someone in the title.
  • In Formula 1 news, Alonso was spotted with his new Ferrari chums again, with some photographic evidence of he and Alonso getting on together. How will they fare as teammates this year? Will they be rivals? Or will they be best friends? And more importantly, how much interaction with Rob will Alonso have, because I am jealous!
  • After we talked recently about Notus not worried about signing a Malaysian driver for their team, it now looks as though we might find out who they've got on board very soon. Tony Fernandes has said they have one driver signed already, so with just one more to come, it might be soon. Then again it might not! You never can tell.

That's all for now. Let's hope Monday runs pretty smoothly for everyone, especially as we need to forget about Friday 13th! As per usual, I will see you in the comments.

1358 responses

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 00:09

    Hello everyone! I survived the lasagne lesson, I'm pleased to say :)

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 00:13

    Ah, new Daily. Pinger has gone on holiday.

    Hello everyone! I survived the lasagne lesson, I'm pleased to say :)

    Good to hear :-)

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 00:20

    Hello everyone! I survived the lasagne lesson, I'm pleased to say :)

    Glad you didn't poison anyone.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 00:48

    It's Monday.

    www.feederseries.co.uk

    A lovely Guide to Formula Two for y'all.

  • Sean Golding16/11/2009 at 01:15

    Afternoon everyone.

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 01:18

    Glad you didn't poison anyone. {Comment #2}

    True. I also managed not to burn the house down (or anything else for that matter) and didn't get mad at anything. Took ages to sort out the onions though...

  • Joe in Fla16/11/2009 at 02:50

    Hello all!

  • Sean Golding16/11/2009 at 02:50

    Well, I've finally succumbed and joined the ranks of al you other bloggers out there. Check out my new blog at

    http://pardonthefrench.wordpress.com/

  • Sean Golding16/11/2009 at 02:51

    Hello all!

    Hello there

  • Alex Andronov16/11/2009 at 05:56

    Well, I've finally succumbed and joined the ranks of al you other bloggers out there. Check out my new blog at

    http://pardonthefrench.wordpress.com/

    Well done Sean! I've left a comment!

  • Amy16/11/2009 at 06:34

    i am in the lobby of crown towers and i really feel like i dont belong here!

  • Sean Golding16/11/2009 at 06:47

    i am in the lobby of crown towers and i really feel like i dont belong here!

    Why are you there?

  • Amy16/11/2009 at 07:05

    popped into louis vuitton to find out the price of a bag a friend wants to buy. They are renovating their normal crown store so have moved into the lobby of the hotel. Good place to go kimi spotting but not in november!

  • Sean Golding16/11/2009 at 07:06

    popped into louis vuitton to find out the price of a bag a friend wants to buy. They are renovating their normal crown store so have moved into the lobby of the hotel. Good place to go kimi spotting but not in november!

    And how overpriced was the bag?

  • Amy16/11/2009 at 07:24

    now i am at albert park. Also a good place for kimi spotting, but i feel i belong here.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:41

    Is there such a thing as a BS-ometer?

    "Brawn to confirm Merc, Rosberg, and Heidfeld"

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:41

    now i am at albert park. Also a good place for kimi spotting, but i feel i belong here.

    An affinity with Albert Park? ;)

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 07:45

    Is there such a thing as a BS-ometer?

    "Brawn to confirm Merc, Rosberg, and Heidfeld"

    With the Daily Mail as their source, the reading on that meter will be pretty high

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 07:49

    Is there such a thing as a BS-ometer?

    Funny, some other BS sources suggest Heidfeld to McLaren :-) obviously two top teams powered by Merc power is too much for some to keep up with :-)

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:51

    With the Daily Mail as their source, the reading on that meter will be pretty high

    Indeed so... That said, TWO World Champions on the market in the middle of November - who would've thought...?

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 07:51

    Is there such a thing as a BS-ometer?

    "Brawn to confirm Merc, Rosberg, and Heidfeld"

    hmmmmmmmm...

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:52

    Funny, some other BS sources suggest Heidfeld to McLaren :-) obviously two top teams powered by Merc power is too much for some to keep up with :-)

    Heidfeld to Brawn is more likely than Heidfeld to McLaren for me, if only because Heidfeld is more in Brawn's budget, and McLaren still has Kimi as a prime option.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:54

    Wolf! F1 Classics on tonight - and it's a cracker - Australia 1994. I cringe at the thought of Slater commentating on THE collision, though.

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 07:55

    Heidfeld to Brawn is more likely than Heidfeld to McLaren for me, if only because Heidfeld is more in Brawn's budget, and McLaren still has Kimi as a prime option.

    yes, but then there is that Jenson visits Woking story with message to both Kimi and Brawn :-) I suggest to wait. come Bahrain the things should clear up sufficiently enough for at least 20 cars on the grid with drivers in cockpits :-)

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 07:55

    Wolf! F1 Classics on tonight - and it's a cracker - Australia 1994. I cringe at the thought of Slater commentating on THE collision, though.

    yes yes, I know. I missed last week :-( hope I will not miss this one

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:56

    yes, but then there is that Jenson visits Woking story with message to both Kimi and Brawn :-)

    All the more reason to make Heidfeld to Brawn even more likely than Heidfeld to McLaren.

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 07:57

    Is there such a thing as a BS-ometer?

    "Brawn to confirm Merc, Rosberg, and Heidfeld"

    Morning all.

    Hmmmmm indeed. Peeling back the layers of this particular news onion, I think that the core of it is the Brundle story in the Times, which was then followed up by the Mail, then pecked at and regurgitated by GMM/Planet-F1 (what an unholy alliance). In much the same way as the quality of a page degrades every time you send it by fax, this story has accrued a layer of BS as it's gone through the machine

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:57

    yes yes, I know. I missed last week :-( hope I will not miss this one

    The selection of races are too Schumi-centric for me (although at least they cover both his high and low points). They could've added some brilliant non-Schumi races, like Italy and Europe 1999 (they don't even have a single 1999 race in the lineup!)

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:58

    I missed last week :-(

    I caught a replay on the weekend. Did you miss that too?

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 07:58

    Wolf! F1 Classics on tonight - and it's a cracker - Australia 1994. I cringe at the thought of Slater commentating on THE collision, though.

    I remember listening to the commentary on Radio 5, and S Taylor got so angry that he became incoherent.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 07:59

    GMM/Planet-F1 (what an unholy alliance)

    Not quite pure evil, but I get what you mean. :D

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 08:00

    The selection of races are too Schumi-centric for me (although at least they cover both his high and low points). They could've added some brilliant non-Schumi races, like Italy and Europe 1999 (they don't even have a single 1999 race in the lineup!)

    I caught the promo for the Classic races and they did somehow stress the "Schumi" thing as something all the races selected have in common

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 08:00

    I remember listening to the commentary on Radio 5, and S Taylor got so angry that he became incoherent.

    S Taylor incoherent? Never heard that before...

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 08:00

    I caught a replay on the weekend. Did you miss that too?

    I had F1 and racing free weekend. Getting mentally ready for Macau :-)

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 08:01

    MB's stuff is ghost-written for him by a well-connected writer, and the original Times story is interestingly sourced. It even has an on-the-record quote from a 'McLaren spokesman' (my former boss - another MB - no doubt), which indicates if nothing else that they are playing along with Jenson's management.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 08:01

    I caught the promo for the Classic races and they did somehow stress the "Schumi" thing as something all the races selected have in common

    How will Asian F1 fans learn more about F1 history if all they keep showing is Schumi, Schumi? Well, at least it's a start, I guess...

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 08:04

    How will Asian F1 fans learn more about F1 history if all they keep showing is Schumi, Schumi? Well, at least it's a start, I guess...

    for many still F1 is Schumi and nothing else ...

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 08:05

    for many still F1 is Schumi and nothing else ...

    Ghastly.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 08:15

    Ghastly.

    More like Mr C's ultimate nightmare. :D

    Did you watch the RoC? Beijing might as well have been in the middle of Germany. :D Japan is an exception, though - that is Senna country. Thanks to Honda, they saw F1 way before the rest of Asia did. :)

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 08:16

    ...which indicates if nothing else that they are playing along with Jenson's management.

    So McLaren know that they aren't Jenson's primary option right now? But they're just... using each other to achieve their objectives?

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 08:17

    So McLaren know that they aren't Jenson's primary option right now? But they're just... using each other to achieve their objectives?

    sounds silly, crazy... sounds so much like F1 :-)

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 08:52

    Mornings. lecturers should not be allowed to cancel lectures unexpectedly :(

  • Sean Golding16/11/2009 at 08:57

    Mornings. lecturers should not be allowed to cancel lectures unexpectedly :(

    That only matters if you actually go to your lectures though. ;)

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 08:58

    That only matters if you actually go to your lectures though. ;)

    True :P

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 09:21

    apparently Norbert haug has been saying there will be a Mercedes announcement at 12...

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 09:26

    apparently Norbert haug has been saying there will be a Mercedes announcement at 12...

    I'd better prep a breakout thread.

    Morning all.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 09:27

    apparently Norbert haug has been saying there will be a Mercedes announcement at 12...

    http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/11/mercedes-to-announce-f1-future-plans-this-morning/

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 09:27

    Morning all.

    Morning!

    Why do announcements seem to happen on a Monday!

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 09:28

    Why do announcements seem to happen on a Monday!

    because it is the first day after Sunday :-)

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 09:30

    Still no pinger?

    Oh well, here's the thread in advance of the announcement: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/16/mercedes-set-to-confirm-plans/

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 09:31

    apparently Norbert haug has been saying there will be a Mercedes announcement at 12...

    Bah! My Twittering madskillz beat him by a good 30 mins with that this morning.

    Except I'll concede he's perhaps a little bit more popular than me.

  • Alex Andronov16/11/2009 at 09:48

    Oh well, here's the thread in advance of the announcement: http://sidepod...set-to-confirm-plans/

    Like the short link... made me think you were confirming plans of some sort!

    Morning everyone!

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 09:48

    I had a dream last night that all my teeth were falling out.

    My teeth feel weird today.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 09:50

    My teeth feel weird today.

    I've had a dream like that before. It's rather horrible :(

  • Alex Andronov16/11/2009 at 09:50

    I had a dream last night that all my teeth were falling out.

    My teeth feel weird today.

    Oooh. Oddd... Possibly Dr Who related? you couldn't see their teeth after they went all watery.

    Even odder I looked up on google about teeth falling out dreams and the first link was Bella Online: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art10573.asp

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 09:52

    Even odder I looked up on google about teeth falling out dreams and the first link was Bella Online: http://www.bel...articles/art10573.asp

    "The next time you dream about losing teeth, before trying to figure out what it means, ask yourself how the dream made you feel."

    ... Like I needed a dentist.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 10:00

    We're discussing how odd and slightly brilliant it is buying stuff in the Apple Store

    They have no cash registers!!

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 10:04

    They have no cash registers!!

    Or a desk to go to when you want to buy something.

    You have to collar someone, who isn't busy.

    I was lucky that when I got the apple tv, we could find someone free. Another time I went for some audio cables, and i was told to wait by someone selling a macbook, and after a few mins, i put the cables back on the shelf and left.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 10:06

    Or a desk to go to when you want to buy something.

    You have to collar someone, who isn't busy.

    I was lucky that when I got the apple tv, we could find someone free. Another time I went for some audio cables, and i was told to wait by someone selling a macbook, and after a few mins, i put the cables back on the shelf and left.

    I am very easily impressed but it was odd when the dude last week just yanked out a card thingy from his pocket for me to pay. Mind = blown

  • Nick16/11/2009 at 10:21

    Booked my flights for tomorrow! :D :D :D

  • Amy16/11/2009 at 10:22

    Booked my flights for tomorrow! :D :D :D

    quite the polar opposite to how I book flights :D

  • Nick16/11/2009 at 10:24

    quite the polar opposite to how I book flights :D

    hehe, My planning style is slightly more mrc ;)

  • Nick16/11/2009 at 10:37

    Slight problem in that i still have nowhere to live

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 10:38

    Slight problem in that i still have nowhere to live

    Live at the airport like Tom Hanks

  • Nick16/11/2009 at 10:39

    Live at the airport like Tom Hanks

    That's the plan :P

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 10:40

    Franck news:

    http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/11/16/montagny-raising-hopes-for-renault-seat/

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 10:42
  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 10:42

    Franck news:

    http://f1.gpup...pes-for-renault-seat/

    Oooh I hope so

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 10:43

    Franck news:

    same news with different picture

    http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/f1/2009/11/997770

  • Nick16/11/2009 at 10:44

    Franck news:

    http://f1.gpup...pes-for-renault-seat/

    That's exciting!

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 10:44

    same news with different picture

    http://www.mtv...tot/f1/2009/11/997770

    Yay for Franck being in the news again :)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 10:49

    GP Week's Top 5 F1 Drivers:

    1. LewHam

    2. SebVet

    3. JenBut

    4. Webber

    = Barrichello

    6. Buemi

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 10:49

    Morning all

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 10:51

    I love how these F1 drivers keep thinking they can rally drive and then crash out of the event

    http://f1.gpup...ut-of-sicilian-rally/

    The reason they struggle is that they have never had to listen to anyone else before telling them what to do. You sit in a rally car and you have to put your life in your co-drivers hands. It takes time.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 10:52

    http://www.f1network.net/main/s169/st151631.htm

    Hahahahaha. :)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 10:53

    Hahahahaha. :)

    :)

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 10:55

    ahh, I have rediscovered the F1FM awesomeness that Australian Nick made with the Legard CD for Sidepodradio :D

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 10:55

    In Formula 1 news, Alonso was spotted with his new Ferrari chums again, with some photographic evidence of he and Alonso getting on together.

    Yeah, Ferrari look to be having a great time in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKQFsfYLEBY

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 11:01

    I.would.die.

    This would only happen if those wild Glock-to-Virgin stories are true. And if Glock picks Virgin over Renault, he'd be nuts.

    #sorryRG

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 11:02

    This would only happen if those wild Glock-to-Virgin stories are true. And if Glock picks Virgin over Renault, he'd be nuts.

    I want a silly driver move so it can give me an excuse to post the video to the song Frontier Psychiatrist by the Avalanches :(

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 11:03

    Hahahahaha. :)

    Poor Phil. He goes off for a week to raise funds by rallying, and the Brawn world goes nuts. By the time he gets back, there's so much speculation on the RBGP forums that has gone unchecked...

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 11:03

    This would only happen if those wild Glock-to-Virgin stories are true. And if Glock picks Virgin over Renault, he'd be nuts.

    There just could be no Renault drive next year - I think that is why Timo is considering Nick Wirths virtual team.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 11:03

    Poor Phil. He goes off for a week to raise funds by rallying, and the Brawn world goes nuts. By the time he gets back, there's so much speculation on the RBGP forums that has gone unchecked...

    #blameMercedes

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 11:04

    There just could be no Renault drive next year - I think that is why Timo is considering Nick Wirths virtual team.

    Manor will be there, as will META. USF1 is the doubtful ne

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 11:05

    Manor will be there, as will META. USF1 is the doubtful ne

    Now now.

    USF1 have a picture of Jim Clark on the wall.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 11:05

    USF1 have a picture of Jim Clark on the wall.

    True story

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 11:06

    True story

    and a sowing machine too. their future looks bright

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 11:06

    USF1 have a picture of Jim Clark on the wall.

    I had a picture of Ralf Schumacher on my wall, dosen't mean i'm going to race in F1

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 11:06

    and a sowing machine too. their future looks bright

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJTynvakZok

    and day 2, 3,4,5,

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 11:07

    I had a picture of Ralf Schumacher on my wall, dosen't mean i'm going to race in F1

    To be honest I'd believe you saying that you were starting a team more than USF1 in saying they had a future

  • F1Wolf16/11/2009 at 11:07

    and a sowing machine too. their future looks bright

    and 70,000 toasters or what was that thing :-)

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 11:08

    USF1 have a picture of Jim Clark on the wall.

    They've out-Lotused Notus

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 11:09

    I had a picture of Ralf Schumacher on my wall...

    Oh dear

    ;-)

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 11:09

    I had a picture of Ralf Schumacher on my wall...

    You;'re never going to live that down by the way :P

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 11:12

    You;'re never going to live that down by the way :P

    Jon Waldock, former Ralf Schumacher poster owner from http://feederseries.co.uk

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 11:12

    You're never going to live that down by the way :P

    "I had a picture of Ralf Schumacher on my wall..."

    I'm sorry, but saying that out loud just makes me laugh. a LOT. :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 11:12

    You;'re never going to live that down by the way :P

    I was the one who just bought it up :P I think its funny anyway.

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 11:14

    I was the one who just bought it up :P I think its funny anyway.

    Don't say it's from the Toyota era

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 11:15

    Don't say it's from the Toyota era

    It's the last piece of Toyota DNA ;)

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 11:15

    I was the one who just bought it up :P I think its funny anyway.

    Was he in a gravel trap?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 11:15

    Was he in a gravel trap?

    nope.

    going round a corner and everything

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 11:16

    Don't say it's from the Toyota era

    Say this out loud:

    "I started watching F1 because I saw Ralf Schumacher driving... a Toyota!"

    :D

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 11:16

    nope.

    going round a corner and everything

    A rare picture indeed :-p

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 11:18

    Say this out loud:

    "I started watching F1 because I saw Ralf Schumacher driving... a Toyota!"

    I daren't, I might slap myself.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 11:28

    Don't forget the breakout thread: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/16/mercedes-set-to-confirm-plans/

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 11:28

    That sounds most plausible rumour so far

    Suppose I should have posted in the other thread. Oopsie.

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 11:28

    Is there such a thing as a BS-ometer? {Comment #16}

    F1 Rejects has a machine (which they call something a bit ruder). I'm sure it will be going off very, very loudly at this point...

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 11:37

    I had a picture of Ralf Schumacher on my wall, dosen't mean i'm going to race in F1{Comment #88}

    I have a picture of Silverstone circuit on my wall, and I'm fairly sure it doesn't mean I'm going to be driven over by two-dozen cars next year or have to pay Bernie a nine-figure sum for the priviledge...

  • Sean Golding16/11/2009 at 11:38

    I have a picture of Silverstone circuit on my wall, and I'm fairly sure it doesn't mean I'm going to be driven over by two-dozen cars next year or have to pay Bernie a nine-figure sum for the priviledge...

    :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 11:39

    Dear Private Number;

    If you want me to pick the phone up, you need to let it wrong more than twice

  • Nick16/11/2009 at 12:02

    thats almost certainly a yes

    We're off shoe shopping.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 12:03

    We're off shoe shopping.

    wow, that sounds joyfully exciting

  • Nick16/11/2009 at 12:07

    wow, that sounds joyfully exciting

    doesn't it just.

    the Shoes are for me. I cant be trusted to buy them all by myself ;)

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 12:16

    Most of you will probably be too young to remember The Equalizer or the original Wicker Man, but Edward Woodward has died: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8362367.stm

    Absolute legend.

  • Nick16/11/2009 at 12:20

    Rightio shoe time. Byeeeeeeee

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 12:21

    Rightio shoe time. Byeeeeeeee

    *cough* underthethumb *cough*

    :D :P ;)

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 12:22

    *cough* underthethumb *cough*

    *cough*waituntilitisyourturn*cough* :)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 12:23

    *cough*waituntilitisyourturn*cough* :)

    hahaaha true story

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 12:26

    *cough* underthethumb *cough*

    It's nearly as bad as having a Ralf poster :-P ;-)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 12:29

    It's nearly as bad as having a Ralf poster :-P ;-)

    atleast i didnt pay for it ;)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 12:31

    I'm going to go for a nice bike ride (potentially)

    So i shall leave you all with this...

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/gmm-avi

  • Sean Golding16/11/2009 at 12:33

    So i shall leave you all with this...

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/gmm-avi

    :D

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 13:00

    Right back to work.

    Laters gang

  • Dap16/11/2009 at 13:15

    By the way, how do I embed previous comments without the button? *stupid dap*

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 13:16

    By the way, how do I embed previous comments without the button? *stupid dap*

    Use the [blockquote] and [/blockquote] tags - using the greater than and less than signs instead of brackets. ;)

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 13:30

    You might wanna look (and comment) here, Dap:

    http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/16/mercedes-set-to-confirm-plans/

    It says current livery will stay.

  • Dap16/11/2009 at 13:33

    Sorry Journeyer, hadn't managed to read through that one fast enough after getting home and logging on. I'll buzz off if you like, seems like I'm stepping on toes.

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 13:37

    Am listening to the podcast of the first Bloggers Karting event, can't wait for 2010's! :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 13:38

    Sorry Journeyer, hadn't managed to read through that one fast enough after getting home and logging on. I'll buzz off if you like, seems like I'm stepping on toes.

    Your fine, just watch your thread.

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 13:38

    Sorry Journeyer, hadn't managed to read through that one fast enough after getting home and logging on. I'll buzz off if you like, seems like I'm stepping on toes.

    You're not stepping on anybody's toes. Journeyer was just trying to nudge you towards the Mercedes thread where all the Mercedes discussion takes place.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 13:39

    Oh.my.goodness.

    Piquet to Force India ;)

    Q. Is Formula One still possible in 2010?

    NP: I'm close to Force India at the moment but obviously this is being very interesting for me, so I don't know. I'm still in the process of deciding what I'm going to do. Maybe spend one more year in Europe before coming here; it's still all up in the air.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80167

    I love how a Q&A with Piquet is now categorised as Nascar on autosport

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 13:40

    Piquet to Force India ;)

    Don't go all GMM on us! That just says he's close to them

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 13:42

    Don't go all GMM on us! That just says he's close to them

    hehehehe. I know, i can't imagine FIF1 wanting him

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 13:43

    hehehehe. I know, i can't imagine FIF1 wanting him

    #blameSutil

    :P

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 13:43

    Hmm, I leave you all while I head for lunch and come back to find Mercedes chatter in x2 threads.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 13:48

    #blameSutil

    #blametrulli

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 13:49

    I can phone a mobile in the USA on skype for 1.2p a minute, but it costs me 14.4p a minute for a uk mobile. pah

  • me16/11/2009 at 13:49

    Hmm, I leave you all while I head for lunch and come back to find Mercedes chatter in x2 threads.

    i shalt move them, for that is my purpose in life.

  • me16/11/2009 at 13:51

    I love how a Q&A with Piquet is now categorised as Nascar on autosport

    isn't that because he was interviewed at a nascar race? presumably by a nascar journalist.

  • MoJoker16/11/2009 at 13:51

    hello People

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 13:52

    isn't that because he was interviewed at a nascar race? presumably by a nascar journalist.

    it was, but there was also non-nascar questions too.

  • MoJoker16/11/2009 at 13:58
  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 14:02

    Mr C might like this from my lecturer... the scene in Monty Python & The Holy Grail with the logical of where they 'find a witch' explained in C++...

    http://twitpic.com/pr1bb

    ...yeah.

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 14:16

    Oh.my.goodness.

    Piquet to Force India ;) {Comment #131}

    There is more chance of me going to Force India than Nelson, given that Liuzzi's signed, Sutil is unless he decides to go somewhere else (Mercedes?) and Neel and Chandhok are fighting over the test seat. Not to mention that Nelson is not the only outsider looking at a Force India seat...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 14:35

    Afternoon.

    WHat's an 'invalid post id'?

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 14:38

    Aww no, look at this comment from Joeon the GMM post...

    I am sufficiently disenchanted with the feedback today that I may simply shut down the blog.

    Why should I bother to waste my time?

    !! :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 14:39

    Aww no, look at this comment from Joeon the GMM post...

    I am sufficiently disenchanted with the feedback today that I may simply shut down the blog.

    Why should I bother to waste my time?

    !! :(

    What did I say would happen the other day???

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 14:39

    Aww no, look at this comment from Joeon the GMM post...

    just saw it. :(

  • me16/11/2009 at 14:41

    gavin what's up?

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 14:41

    I am sufficiently disenchanted with the feedback today that I may simply shut down the blog.

    He apparently said something similar the other day that was later removed - it went out on the email updates though. However, I wasn't sure if it was someone impersonating him or not.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 14:43

    He apparently said something similar the other day that was later removed - it went out on the email updates though. However, I wasn't sure if it was someone impersonating him or not.

    Ah, Joe says it was him but removed it after reflection

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 14:43

    gavin what's up?

    Hmm I tried to reply to Christine's comment asking what Baabaa was and it tells me I have an Error: invalid post id...

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 14:45

    The great thing about the internet is that it’s a party to which everyone is invited. The problem with the internet is that it’s a party to which everyone is invited.

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/thieving-from-the-thieves/#comment-6422

    Amen to that

  • me16/11/2009 at 14:46

    Hmm I tried to reply to Christine's comment asking what Baabaa was and it tells me I have an Error: invalid post id...

    odd. don't think any post id's have changed.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 14:47

    Hmm I tried to reply to Christine's comment asking what Baabaa was and it tells me I have an Error: invalid post id...

    odd. don't think any post id's have changed.

    It's something to do with the link that was in it I think. No matter, the question was answered anyway!

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 14:48

    Hmm I tried to reply to Christine's comment asking what Baabaa was and it tells me I have an Error: invalid post id...

    I get that now and then, refreshing the page is usually necessary.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 14:48

    Hmm I tried to reply to Christine's comment asking what Baabaa was and it tells me I have an Error: invalid post id...

    I get that now and then, refreshing the page is usually necessary.

    I hard refreshed twice.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 14:49

    Right you lovely people (Gavin will like this ;) )

    I'm interviewing Pippa Mann on Thursday, any questions you have?

    http://www.pippamann.com/default.aspx

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Mann

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 14:51

    Right you lovely people (Gavin will like this ;) )

    I'm interviewing Pippa Mann on Thursday, any questions you have?

    http://www.pippamann.com/default.aspx

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Mann

    Ooh you lucky beggar!

    Um, I would suggest asking her about PitFit as she tweets about it all the time.

    Also ask her how her recent test went, and how she has adapted to racing in the states and what the differences are between there and Europe.

    Also, if you could say thanks from me for the signed photo that would be lovely ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 14:51

    I'm interviewing Pippa Mann on Thursday, any questions you have?

    Wow, awesome! :D

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 14:54

    I'm interviewing Pippa Mann on Thursday, any questions you have?

    Are her long-term plans to continue racing in the States and follow the likes of Katherine Legge into Indycar or is she planning to try going back to Europe at some point?

    If I think of any more I'll hashtag them. :P

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 14:55

    If I think of any more I'll hashtag them. :P

    ta

  • me16/11/2009 at 14:59

    ooh, joe suggests franck for the 2nd renault seat:

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/a-flight-of-blue-fancy/

    well, okay... he says he's french and worth considering at least.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 15:01

    well, okay... he says he's french and worth considering at least.

    Under a title "flight of fancy." :(

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:01

    ooh, joe suggests franck for the 2nd renault seat:

    ...among others (Baguette, Pic, Pagenaud, Duval, Treluyer)

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:02

    Under a title "flight of fancy." :(

    I thought that was referring to the Gordini renaming rather than the choice of 2nd driver?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:02

    ...among others (Baguette, Pic, Pagenaud, Duval, Treluyer)

    although i dont like to say it, baguette is the one most likely amongst those lot

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:03

    ...among others (Baguette, Pic, Pagenaud, Duval, Treluyer)

    and I missed Bianchi too.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:03

    For Gavin

    http://www.pitfit.com/motor-sports/

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 15:03

    I thought that was referring to the Gordini renaming rather than the choice of 2nd driver?

    I read it as the entire process of making it a French team again.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:05

    I read it as the entire process of making it a French team again.

    Ahh. But he does say that given Crashgate, "the idea of making the team more French and rebranding it is a good option."

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:05

    although i dont like to say it, baguette is the one most likely amongst those lot

    not french?

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:05

    not french?

    Belgian. But it SOUNDS French! :D

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 15:05

    although i dont like to say it, baguette is the one most likely amongst those lot

    It's never going to be Franck. I'm not sure why all those people have brought his name up again. It's just mean.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:06

    not french?

    true, but he was listed

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 15:06

    It's never going to be Franck. I'm not sure why all those people have brought his name up again. It's just mean.

    I'd have him in my team if he wants a drive!!

    Note - I may not have a team

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:06

    It's never going to be Franck. I'm not sure why all those people have brought his name up again. It's just mean.

    I wouldn't say Joe is mean. Hehe. ;)

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 15:07

    I wouldn't say Joe is mean. Hehe. ;)

    It is mean to get my hopes up.

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:07

    It's never going to be Franck. I'm not sure why all those people have brought his name up again. It's just mean.

    my take:

    - he has f1 experience

    - he fell out with flav not renault

    - testing is limited and he has shown himself to be a fine car developer

    - he knows people within the team and they know him

    it's not beyond the realms of possibility. gotta be better than employing a bread stick anyhow.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 15:08

    it's not beyond the realms of possibility. gotta be better than employing a bread stick anyhow.

    That makes you mean too.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:08

    my take:

    was just tihnking hte same. if the team want someone who's decent and consistant then francks their guy

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 15:08

    it's not beyond the realms of possibility. gotta be better than employing a bread stick anyhow.

    Maybe next time you speak to Joe, you should ask in his opinion how realistic Franck's chances actually are.

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:08

    That makes you mean too.

    #sorrychristine

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:09

    Maybe next time you speak to Joe, you should ask in his opinion how realistic Franck's chances actually are.

    #sorryrg

    (man the place is soo sensitive :) )

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 15:09

    - he has f1 experience

    always good, and he knows christine of the internet

    - he fell out with flav not renault

    who didn't!

    - testing is limited and he has shown himself to be a fine car developer

    true, and he also has a c in his name which means he is special (mr/mrs c)

    - he knows people within the team and they know him

    Everybody Loves Franck

    I feel he should get a drive

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:09

    That makes you mean too.

    Ooooh. :D

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 15:09

    Oops, quote fail :(

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:09

    (man the place is soo sensitive :) )

    aannd a quote fail.

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 15:09

    was just tihnking hte same. if the team want someone who's decent and consistant then francks their guy

    The guy came 2nd at Le Mans with a broken foot. Glock missed out on the last 3 races of the season with a wound to his leg. Go figure.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 15:09

    (man the place is soo sensitive :) )

    :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:10

    The guy came 2nd at Le Mans with a broken foot. Glock missed out on the last 3 races of the season with a wound to his leg. Go figure.

    true. not sure glocks decision was his though

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 15:11

    true. not sure glocks decision was his though

    True, but Peugeot let Franck race and look where it still got him even with an injury.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:12

    True, but Peugeot let Franck race and look where it still got him even with an injury.

    and Toyota didn't let Glock race. I'm not sure you can compare them as Franck was lucky to be able to drive.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 15:12

    For Gavin

    http://www.pitfit.com/motor-sports/

    Yeah I saw that. You should still ask her how it improves her racecraft I think.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:12

    Yeah I saw that. You should still ask her how it improves her racecraft I think.

    dont worry, its still on the list. am looking at lots of photos and stuff, looks really interesting

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 15:13

    and Toyota didn't let Glock race. I'm not sure you can compare them as Franck was lucky to be able to drive.

    Toyota's F1 team did know what they were doing anyway. And that's referring to them in general. Never was an F1 team run so farcically.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 15:13

    was just tihnking hte same. if the team want someone who's decent and consistant then francks their guy

    The guy came 2nd at Le Mans with a broken foot. Glock missed out on the last 3 races of the season with a wound to his leg. Go figure.

    That's unfair - I think Glock was forced out!

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 15:13

    Toyota's F1 team did know what they were doing anyway. And that's referring to them in general. Never was an F1 team run so farcically.

    didn't*

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 15:19

    Toyota's F1 team didn't know what they were doing anyway. And that's referring to them in general. Never was an F1 team run so farcically.

    True ,in their lifespan no-one told them they were allowed to change their bleedin' livery! ;)

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 15:26

    That's unfair - I think Glock was forced out!

    To be fair Toyota F1 were trying to save themselves - so they drafted in Kobayashi to pull on the heart-strings of Mothership Toyota about this is the new Japanese wunderkid. Toyota board cried with them but still sent them off to the executioner.

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:27

    having read joe's comments relating to considering no further blogging. i conclude the simple answer is micropayments.

    stupid people won't pay because they're are too dumb to understand the benefits and if you eradicate the stupid people, the problem is solved.

    i'm also betting that updatef1 end the agreement with gmm in the near future. time will tell though.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:27

    To be fair Toyota F1 were trying to save themselves - so they drafted in Kobayashi to pull on the heart-strings of Mothership Toyota about this is the new Japanese wunderkid. Toyota board cried with them but still sent them off to the executioner.

    One good Japanese driver was never going to change their mind. If they think he's that good then they'll do a Kaz with him

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:28

    One good Japanese driver was never going to change their mind. If they think he's that good then they'll do a Kaz with him

    without an engine? that'll be some achievement.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 15:28

    having read joe's comments relating to considering no further blogging. i conclude the simple answer is micropayments.

    stupid people won't pay because they're are too dumb to understand the benefits and if you eradicate the stupid people, the problem is solved.

    i'm also betting that updatef1 end the agreement with gmm in the near future. time will tell though.

    Can you elaborate further? Give an example or something? (Better yet, write a blog post on it!)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 15:29

    without an engine? that'll be some achievement.

    they could have done a deal with someone if they had wanted too. dosent have to be an engine deal, they could have sorted him a drive another way

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:30

    Can you elaborate further? Give an example or something? (Better yet, write a blog post on it!)

    maybe. the stupid people in the thread (probably daily mail readers), don't appear to be the kind of people to pay who'd pay for content. so they'd simply stop commenting.

    joe would get some additional income and sensible comments.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 15:30

    joe would get some additional income and sensible comments.

    I'd be happy to pay for his quality output.

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:32

    I'd be happy to pay for his quality output.

    me too. same as i'm happy to pay for gp+ and autosport.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 15:48

    Is James Allen's site down again?

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 15:48

    Is James Allen's site down again?

    I hear twitter are recruiting him to get advice on website hosting.

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 15:49

    So you mean like a couple of quid a month to view his posts? That sounds reasonable. I'd put it to him next time you speak to him as well.

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 15:49

    Is James Allen's site down again?

    Jamesallenonf1: @Lynn_duffy - I know, I'm really sorry. We add more capacity and the traffic spikes get bigger. "We need a bigger boat", as they say

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:49

    Is James Allen's site down again?

    I hear twitter are recruiting him to get advice on website hosting.

    :D For the record, JA's site has been down for some time now. I'll see his opinion tomorrow.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 15:50

    Jamesallenonf1: @Lynn_duffy - I know, I'm really sorry. We add more capacity and the traffic spikes get bigger. "We need a bigger boat", as they say

    I wonder how much more is "more capacity"?

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:50

    Jamesallenonf1: @Lynn_duffy - I know, I'm really sorry. We add more capacity and the traffic spikes get bigger. "We need a bigger boat", as they say

    ...or a better content management system.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 15:50

    Jamesallenonf1: @Lynn_duffy - I know, I'm really sorry. We add more capacity and the traffic spikes get bigger. "We need a bigger boat", as they say

    Tempted to tweet him about media temple, just for a giggle.

    But then I'd feel guilty and evil!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 15:50

    Jamesallenonf1: @Lynn_duffy - I know, I'm really sorry. We add more capacity and the traffic spikes get bigger. "We need a bigger boat", as they say

    Thanks Kathi. Guess I'll have to wait to irder his book then :(

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 15:51

    ...or a better content management system.

    he needs a MrC

  • James16/11/2009 at 15:51

    he needs a MrC

    don't we all? ;)

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 15:52

    Time to head home! Yay!

  • me16/11/2009 at 15:52

    he needs a MrC

    http://twitter.com/sidepodcast/status/5768062568

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 16:08

    I just sent an email to someone at F2, got an out of office reply to email a mr sam tremayne. any relation do we think?

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 16:08

    I just sent an email to someone at F2, got an out of office reply to email a mr sam tremayne. any relation do we think?

    certainly possible.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 16:32

    Does anyone know what Franck said to Canadian radio today?

    Today I saw Franck Montagny said some things to a Canadian radio

    From http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/thieving-from-the-thieves/

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 16:33

    Does anyone know what Franck said to Canadian radio today?

    Apparently, he said he has talked to Renault.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 16:44

    Apparently, he said he has talked to Renault.

    We knew that already though. Did he say whether or not he is still talking to them?

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 16:45

    We knew that already though. Did he say whether or not he is still talking to them?

    I think this is the story that was linked to earlier: http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/11/16/montagny-raising-hopes-for-renault-seat/

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 16:46

    Ahoy Christine! Guest post incoming!

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 16:46

    I think this is the story that was linked to earlier: http://f1.gpup...pes-for-renault-seat/

    Imagine if you had decided to kill off sidepodcast just as Frank got a drive

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 16:46

    Ahoy Christine! Guest post incoming!

    Oooh, marvellous!

  • me16/11/2009 at 16:47

    Ahoy Christine! Guest post incoming!

    yippee!

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 16:47

    Ahoy Christine! Guest post incoming!

    Another one! YAY! :D

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 16:47

    Imagine if you had decided to kill off sidepodcast just as Frank got a drive

    We would just have to set up Sidefranckcast instead.

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 16:47

    I just sent an email to someone at F2, got an out of office reply to email a mr sam tremayne. any relation do we think?

    Grrr! He's a chip off the old block! Grrr!

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 16:48

    We would just have to set up Sidefranckcast instead.

    :D

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 16:49

    Grrr! He's a chip off the old block! Grrr!

    His son? Nice!

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 16:50

    #sidepodspace

    Crew loading going perfectly. Should be faster than normal as there are only 6 crew members rather than the normal 7

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 16:51

    Grrr! He's a chip off the old block! Grrr!

    His son? Nice!

    ahaha.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 16:51

    Crew loading going perfectly. Should be faster than normal as there are only 6 crew members rather than the normal 7

    No panda? :(

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 16:52

    I am pinger, hear me roar: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/16/how-driver-negotiations-work-mercedes-gp/

    Or something.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 16:54

    Quick question...

    Will a PS2 copy of GT4 work on a PS3?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 16:55

    No panda? :(

    NASA are crazy. How can they miss an opportunity like this. Pandas would not be so lazy if they didn't have all that weight to haul around so zero G would be great for them

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 16:55

    I am pinger, hear me roar: http://sidepod...ons-work-mercedes-gp/

    We should have an official pinger sound.

    And it should be Brazil's pit lane warning buzzer thingy.

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 16:56

    Will a PS2 copy of GT4 work on a PS3?

    It MIGHT if you have the original PS3 that had backwards compatability.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 16:56

    Will a PS2 copy of GT4 work on a PS3?

    No. Only on 60GB model of PS3s which were stopped released a few months after the PS3 was launched so it's unlikely...

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 16:58

    My comment on Joe's GMM thread survived unscathed. I even have a couple of people including Jordan leaping to my defence following the unfounded allegations that I am full of 'it'. You would think GMM and their fan would recognise 'it' though wouldn't you?

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 17:01

    My comment on Joe's GMM thread survived unscathed. I even have a couple of people including Jordan leaping to my defence following the unfounded allegations that I am full of 'it'. You would think GMM and their fan would recognise 'it' though wouldn't you?

    I was highly amused. Maybe "it" got trapped in Google Translate.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:02

    I was highly amused. Maybe "it" got trapped in Google Translate.

    I'm surprised neither you nor Joe have received a letter from his lawyer... at least I think it's his lawyer. ;)

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 17:05

    I'm surprised neither you nor Joe have received a letter from his lawyer... at least I think it's his lawyer. ;)

    Maybe I should send his made-up lawyer a copy of a real lawyer's letter, so that he can cut-and-paste it into an improved made-up laywer's letter...

  • me16/11/2009 at 17:05

    I'm surprised neither you nor Joe have received a letter from his lawyer... at least I think it's his lawyer. ;)

    after we copied the contents of the last email into the comments, the follow up message was something along the lines of:

    "i will never contact you this way again".

    apparently the idea of someone copying and pasting his missive frightening the life out of him.

    although quite how else we are to be contacted is anyone's guess?

  • me16/11/2009 at 17:05

    Maybe I should send his made-up lawyer a copy of a real lawyer's letter, so that he can cut-and-paste it into an improved made-up laywer's letter...

    :D

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:06

    I was highly amused. Maybe "it" got trapped in Google Translate.

    Glad you liked it

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:06

    I'm surprised neither you nor Joe have received a letter from his lawyer... at least I think it's his lawyer. ;)

    It's his mother. ;)

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:06

    Maybe I should send his made-up lawyer a copy of a real lawyer's letter, so that he can cut-and-paste it into an improved made-up laywer's letter...

    :D

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:06

    Maybe I should send his made-up lawyer a copy of a real lawyer's letter, so that he can cut-and-paste it into an improved made-up laywer's letter...

    :D

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:07

    although quite how else we are to be contacted is anyone's guess?

    he'd send his made-up lawyer in person.

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 17:07

    Will a PS2 copy of GT4 work on a PS3?

    I wondered too at one point, this is what I found out

    http://uk.playstation.com/ps3/support/games/detail/item82567/Playable-Software-for-PlayStation-3/

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:08

    "i will never contact you this way again".

    I have never heard of anyone promising not to send a lawyer's letter. Clearly his lawyer is bogus.

  • me16/11/2009 at 17:08

    he'd send his made-up lawyer in person.

    to where?

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:08

    I putting this under general debate, if it so significant becoming a World Champion (even if won by one point) then clearly Keke Rosberg is a better driver than Stirling Moss even though he only got 44 points from 16 races and 1 victory on the road to the championship. In assessing a driving it should reflect more than one or two races and more than one or two seasons.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:09

    to where?

    Rockall.

  • me16/11/2009 at 17:09

    Rockall.

    ahh. tis invite only.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:12

    #sidepodspace update

    Crew fully loaded. Best commentary on NASA TV ever. They finally found two people who can speak for more than two minutes without a ten minute break and who can explain what is going on and not sound like Mr C reading it.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:12

    I putting this under general debate, if it so significant becoming a World Champion (even if won by one point) then clearly Keke Rosberg is a better driver than Stirling Moss even though he only got 44 points from 16 races and 1 victory on the road to the championship. In assessing a driving it should reflect more than one or two races and more than one or two seasons.

    But Moss won races - plenty of them. No wins from Nick. You might wanna read Stuart's article too.

    Nick Heidfeld is comparable to Chris Amon, much as in the same way that Button is comparable to Denny Hulme...

  • me16/11/2009 at 17:12

    Crew fully loaded. Best commentary on NASA TV ever. They finally found two people who can speak for more than two minutes without a ten minute break and who can explain what is going on and not sound like Mr C reading it.

    oi! actually, fair comment.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:16

    Nick Heidfeld is comparable to Chris Amon, much as in the same way that Button is comparable to Denny Hulme...

    Nick Heidfeld is not as good as Chris Amon. There are respected commentators from his time who believe that Amon was second only tow JYS in terms of ability.

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 17:17

    Rockall.

    ahh. tis invite only.

    Dogger then.

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 17:17

    ahh. tis invite only.

    So my lickle boat is not welcome then?

    I can bring Rose Wine, Frozen Pizzas (with the plastic wrapping removed) and ingredients for cupcakes.

    (But seeing as I have no boat, you're quite safe, for now) :)

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:18

    Nick Heidfeld is comparable to Chris Amon, much as in the same way that Button is comparable to Denny Hulme...

    I think you will find Chris actually had more time in competitive cars. Actually my analysis to look for equalisation so drivers can be compared suggest that Toyota was the car with the third best potential to score points this season. It is an elaborate analysis based on projecting qualifying with fastest laps throughout the season. Either that or Jarno's single lap performance is in a league above everyone else. I can understand why they wanted to ditch both drivers (sorry Timo and RG!).

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 17:19

    Nick Heidfeld is not as good as Chris Amon. There are respected commentators from his time who believe that Amon was second only tow JYS in terms of ability.

    Definitely. Amon was unlucky rather than mediocre.

  • Dan Brunell16/11/2009 at 17:21
  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:22

    But Moss won races - plenty of them. No wins from Nick. You might wanna read Stuart's article too.

    Stuart said the following...

    "Some drivers earn undisclosed amounts from sponsors, whether or not they draw a salary from the team. Some are on incentive schemes that give them bonuses for points (step forward Nick Heidfeld, among others - there’s a reason for that consistent semi-mediocrity)."

    I do not think this is the case, and any way what is wrong with scoring points anyway?

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:24

    I think you will find Chris actually had more time in competitive cars. Actually my analysis to look for equalisation so drivers can be compared suggest that Toyota was the car with the third best potential to score points this season. It is an elaborate analysis based on projecting qualifying with fastest laps throughout the season. Either that or Jarno's single lap performance is in a league above everyone else. I can understand why they wanted to ditch both drivers (sorry Timo and RG!).

    Interesting observation on Toyota. The truth may lie somewhere in between the car's potential and Trulli's qualifying. It certainly had 1 or 2 chances to win this year (which it duly blew). And we all know how good Trulli is on Saturdays.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:24

    I do not think this is the case, and any way what is wrong with scoring points anyway?

    No, not that. His latest article (just came out today).

  • Dan Brunell16/11/2009 at 17:24

    "Some drivers earn undisclosed amounts from sponsors, whether or not they draw a salary from the team. Some are on incentive schemes that give them bonuses for points (step forward Nick Heidfeld, among others - there’s a reason for that consistent semi-mediocrity)."

    I think his reaction to losing out Kubica in getting the first win at BMW in Canada 2008 indicates something different to me. He looked gutted.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 17:24

    Interesting observation on Toyota. The truth may lie somewhere in between the car's potential and Trulli's qualifying. It certainly had 1 or 2 chances to win this year (which it duly blew). And we all know how good Trulli is on Saturdays.

    A quick observation, we all go on about how good Trulli was in quali, but when Trulli was up there, so was Glock.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:25

    A quick observation, we all go on about how good Trulli was in quali, but when Trulli was up there, so was Glock.

    Would be interesting to see their quali performances this year.

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:26

    Interesting observation on Toyota. The truth may lie somewhere in between the car's potential and Trulli's qualifying. It certainly had 1 or 2 chances to win this year (which it duly blew). And we all know how good Trulli is on Saturdays.

    That car on a good few circuits was staggeringly fast both in qualifying and in the race. I am probably going to shoot myself but the drivers that got the most out of their steeds might just wear red suits or had a White Orange and Red livery.

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 17:28

    I do not think this is the case, and any way what is wrong with scoring points anyway?

    I remember watching Heidfeld tigering the Jordan through the Esses at Suzuka in '04 and being very impressed. But since then the fire has gone out.

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:29

    Would be interesting to see their quali performances this year.

    Truli was the overall fifth best qualifier if qualifying poistion equalled the same points as races.

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 17:31

    Truli was the overall fifth best qualifier if qualifying poistion equalled the same points as races.

    fuel-corrected?

  • Alex Andronov16/11/2009 at 17:32

    Woooohooo....

    I finished the Grell Mystery as read by Christine http://librivox.org/the-grell-mystery-by-frank-froest/

    It was really good. And I heartily recommend it!

    My favorite bit? Christine doing the bird impression ;)

  • startledbunny16/11/2009 at 17:34

    Woooohooo....

    I finished the Grell Mystery as read by Christine http://librivo...tery-by-frank-froest/

    It was really good. And I heartily recommend it!

    My favorite bit? Christine doing the bird impression ;)

    Is it just a coincidence his name is Frank, regardless of the spelling?

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:35

    fuel-corrected?

    Yes that is fuel corrected qualifying - a very good point but the only way to compare drivers and of course Q2.

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:37

    Truli was the overall fifth best qualifier if qualifying poistion equalled the same points as races.

    For reference, who's the best qualifier, and where was Glock?

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:41

    hey guys

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 17:41

    hey guys

    evening.

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:42

    an gals

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:42

    Hi Kimster

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:43

    I remember watching Heidfeld tigering the Jordan through the Esses at Suzuka in '04 and being very impressed. But since then the fire has gone out.

    Give him a Brawn or a Macca and a competitive team mate - you might be surprised. He rises to challenges - even in 2008 his qually was bad but at the end of the season he equalised this situation with Robert and this year out-qualified (fuel-corrected) Robert.

    Have a look at his first ride of Troy Corser racing motorbike.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBQcAmWWV-I&feature=related

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:43

    Oh I remember Heidfeld in 04, stunning drive in a sub-optimal vehicle (Pat Symonds words, but who cares about him now). Glock was also impressive that season. Jordan "discovered" those 2 drivers :D

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 17:44

    Oh I remember Heidfeld in 04, stunning drive in a sub-optimal vehicle (Pat Symonds words, but who cares about him now). Glock was also impressive that season. Jordan "discovered" those 2 drivers :D

    Don't let Eddie Jordan see that comment or the man will have a field day

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:45

    Don't let Eddie Jordan see that comment or the man will have a field day

    I dont need tell him, he already does that!!!

  • RG16/11/2009 at 17:45

    Don't let Eddie Jordan see that comment or the man will have a field day

    Ooooh, if any one asks. I discovered Timo. Yep. I accidently set Pantano's plane tickets to Indianpolis instead of Montreal.

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:46

    Ooooh, if any one asks. I discovered Timo. Yep. I accidently set Pantano's plane tickets to Indianpolis instead of Montreal.

    One way was it?

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:47

    For reference, who's the best qualifier, and where was Glock?

    Vettel by a margin of 14.5 points - in points terms Trulli was 62 compared to 18.5 for Timo. Jenson and Rubens are equal but Jenson had more absolute quickest times.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 17:48

    Vettel by a margin of 14.5 points - in points terms Trulli was 62 compared to 18.5 for Timo. Jenson and Rubens are equal but Jenson had more absolute quickest times.

    Whats with the .5s?

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:48

    Who discovered Eddie Jordan then?

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:48

    Oh I remember Heidfeld in 04, stunning drive in a sub-optimal vehicle (Pat Symonds words, but who cares about him now). Glock was also impressive that season. Jordan "discovered" those 2 drivers :D

    Timo on his first out beat Nick.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 17:48

    Hello

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:48

    Vettel by a margin of 14.5 points - in points terms Trulli was 62 compared to 18.5 for Timo. Jenson and Rubens are equal but Jenson had more absolute quickest times.

    Vettel - why didn't I think of him...! Trulli-Timo gap is HUGE, way bigger than I thought. Jenson would've won the duel with Rubens had he not struggled with quali in the 2nd half of the season.

    Oh, and HI, Kimster! Awesome to see you in these parts. :D

    Anyhoo, off to bed, VERY late here. Night all.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 17:48

    Timo on his first out beat Nick.

    And was amazingly consistant in his last three races of the season as well.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 17:49

    Anyhoo, off to bed, VERY late here. Night all.

    Bye Journeyer, hey Pat.

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:49

    Saving all the energy for my quiz eh Journeyer? I am writing it now, its EXTREMELY hard

  • Journeyer16/11/2009 at 17:50

    Saving all the energy for my quiz eh Journeyer? I am writing it now, its EXTREMELY hard

    It's the same for everyone, Kimster. ;) :D

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 17:50

    I know, GMM and all, and it's from late October but:

    http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/091021115504.shtml

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:51

    Oh and Muse were fantastic last friday Luke ;)

  • RG16/11/2009 at 17:51

    I know, GMM and all, and it's from late October but:

    http://en.f1-l...il/091021115504.shtml

    Knowing GMM, it was probably Force India, not Renault...

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 17:52

    Oh and Muse were fantastic last friday Luke ;)

    Oh? You must be confusing me with someone else I guess. I'm a fan of Mousse.

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:53

    What kind of moose? The animal or the food?

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:53

    Whats with the .5s?

    To make comparison could only award half points to Sepang - analysis was comparing qualifing to final result - anothe ranalysis is how many positions a driver can make from a grid position against a statistical background of what could be expected. I will entitled the post when finished Racers, Pacers and Faders. I

    I was not brave enough to ask Me or Christine to put up for each driver a poll with are they a Racer (Kimi or Lewis springs to mind), Pacers (I guess for most people Nick) and Faders (Jarno)? Perceptions are then compared to Results.

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 17:54

    or a mix? chocolate leg moose yum!!

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 17:54

    I know, GMM and all, and it's from late October but:

    http://en.f1-l...il/091021115504.shtml

    Hedged their bets by almost naming every driver they could think of didn't they?

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 17:54

    What kind of moose? The animal or the food?

    The type of Mousse that sings.

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:55

    And was amazingly consistant in his last three races of the season as well.

    Three of Nicks last four races were botched by the team or equipment if we are being honest

  • RG16/11/2009 at 17:55

    The type of Mousse that sings.

    A big hit in Canada aren't they?

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:57

    Vettel - why didn't I think of him...! Trulli-Timo gap is HUGE, way bigger than I thought. Jenson would've won the duel with Rubens had he not struggled with quali in the 2nd half of the season.

    Trulli was quite close to Mark - um and I thought Mark was more of a qualifier. The Red Bulls should have walked the championship.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 17:57

    Three of Nicks last four races were botched by the team or equipment if we are being honest

    Followed by 5 years at BMW/Sauber. Interesing.

    (Probably nothing in it)

  • me16/11/2009 at 17:58

    My favorite bit? Christine doing the bird impression ;)

    woop woop?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 17:59

    My favorite bit? Christine doing the bird impression ;)

    if you feel like it ;) we'd all love to hear that part :P

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 17:59

    Followed by 5 years at BMW/Sauber. Interesing.

    and you know I think he might still end up being at the team next year - he is hugely loved by everyone at the factory.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 17:59

    #sidepodspace update

    I wasn't paying attention but I think they just delayed the launch. By a minute. Weird

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:00

    I was not brave enough to ask Me or Christine to put up for each driver a poll with are they a Racer (Kimi or Lewis springs to mind), Pacers (I guess for most people Nick) and Faders (Jarno)? Perceptions are then compared to Results.

    not sure i understand what you're asking?

  • RG16/11/2009 at 18:01

    and you know I think he might still end up being at the team next year - he is hugely loved by everyone at the factory.

    Good chance, love it to happen as well. Not going to be a bad little car either.

    Question to all, will Sauber be announced next season or do we have to wait for Toyota to confirm they aren't selling up?

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:02

    I wasn't paying attention but I think they just delayed the launch. By a minute. Weird

    keeping christine happy?

  • Kimster/Samy16/11/2009 at 18:02

    Toyota wont sell up. FIA will make sure of that. QUADBIKE should be on the grid

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:03

    http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:03

    keeping christine happy?

    They may be worried that everything is going so well they felt they just had to have a delay as a tradition

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:03

    Steven, how long till launch?

  • RG16/11/2009 at 18:04

    Toyota wont sell up. FIA will make sure of that. QUADBIKE should be on the grid

    Sauber, not quadbike. I'm picky like that.

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:06

    I was not brave enough to ask Me or Christine to put up for each driver a poll with are they a Racer (Kimi or Lewis springs to mind), Pacers (I guess for most people Nick) and Faders (Jarno)? Perceptions are then compared to Results.

    not sure i understand what you're asking?

    actually... i sort of understand.

    that seems like a good idea. i have temporarily broken the poll widget, but if i can fix it this evening, we can give that a go. assuming you are happy to compile the results for us?

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:08

    that seems like a good idea. i have temporarily broken the poll widget, but if i can fix it this evening, we can give that a go. assuming you are happy to compile the results for us?

    although what defines a "racer"?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:09

    although what defines a "racer"?

    overtaker?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:09
  • Alex Andronov16/11/2009 at 18:09

    if you feel like it ;) we'd all love to hear that part :P

    I'll see what I can do! But seriously listen to the book, it's a rip roaring detective adventure.

    Imagine if you were Mr C and you had always said you'd listen to Audiobooks if only the sound quality was better. You'd think you'd almost have to listen to this one ;)

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:11

    overtaker?

    but if you got pole and won the race?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:11

    but if you got pole and won the race?

    in every race?

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 18:11

    not sure i understand what you're asking?

    For each driver a voting pole is set up so it could be Jenson is he a) Racer b) Pacer c) Fader. Obviously Lewis goes for it 10/10th for almost the entire race (Monza) is a racer, a pacer is a driver that is thinking of speed versus tyre wear, a Fader starts well but gets overtaken or becomes a mobile chicane (Jarno).

    At the end of day you can see how drivers are perceived. There are obvious choices for some driver it gets interesting in say Adrian or PK?

    I am having to go to meeting see you in the morning!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:12

    At the end of day you can see how drivers are perceived. There are obvious choices for some driver it gets interesting in say Adrian or PK?

    how do you show the real results though?!

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:13

    I am having to go to meeting see you in the morning!

    ok. remind me in the morning and we'll discuss it more.

    i like it in principle but am confused by the details.

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 18:13

    that seems like a good idea. i have temporarily broken the poll widget, but if i can fix it this evening, we can give that a go. assuming you are happy to compile the results for us?

    Sure see you in the morning - You can email me if unclear but will only pick up tomorrow.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:14

    Steven, how long till launch?

    Launch is 7:27pm or 7:28 if the delay is correct

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:14

    Ignore the official countdown and follow the clock here

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

  • Rich16/11/2009 at 18:15

    i like it in principle but am confused by the details.

    Will send an email to clarify - I think I could put it on my blog but no one reads it!

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:16

    Will send an email to clarify - I think I could put it on my blog but no one reads it!

    cheers sir. if you put it on your blog we can plug it, otherwise, happy to take a look.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:21

    Is it safe to come out yet? Too many driver options floating about earlier - I was getting dizzy ;)

    #GMMfail

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:22

    I have found Radio Canada's own version of Franck's interview. Unfortuantely it is in French. He says that he has spoken to the technical people at Renault and his agent Gilles Bellec has spoken to the commercial people. He expects a reply within two weeks.

    http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/sports_motorises/2009/11/13/002-montagnyrenault.shtml

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:22

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/wtd-sunday-jpg

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:23

    http://drop.io.../asset/wtd-sunday-jpg

    Oops, was just about to add "hello all" and some quip about yesterday's What The Duck

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 18:27

    Will send an email to clarify - I think I could put it on my blog but no one reads it!

    Then Blug!

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:29

    #sidepodspace

    1hour to launch. The crew are loaded and the close out crew have locked them in. Everything seems to be going according to plan. Even the forecast high seas in the area where the SRBs will land are nowhere near as bad as predicted.

    I think the only thing that could cause a delay now is if NASA get a piece of string caught on the nose.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 18:29

    I have found Radio Canada's own version of Franck's interview. Unfortuantely it is in French. He says that he has spoken to the technical people at Renault and his agent Gilles Bellec has spoken to the commercial people. He expects a reply within two weeks.

    Oooh, it has audio. Franck speaks!

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:30

    Imagine if you were Mr C and you had always said you'd listen to Audiobooks if only the sound quality was better. You'd think you'd almost have to listen to this one ;)

    haha. noted.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 18:30

    I have found Radio Canada's own version of Franck's interview. Unfortuantely it is in French. He says that he has spoken to the technical people at Renault and his agent Gilles Bellec has spoken to the commercial people. He expects a reply within two weeks.

    Just wondering, are Renault replacing Bob bobbell or are they keeping him now?

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 18:30

    My favorite bit? Christine doing the bird impression ;)

    I did an impression?? Was I drunk?

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 18:31

    Bob Bell, I mean. Too many b's.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:31

    Oooh, it has audio. Franck speaks!

    I couldn't get the audio to play

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:31

    I did an impression?? Was I drunk?

    Wasn't me ;)

  • RG16/11/2009 at 18:31

    I have found Radio Canada's own version of Franck's interview. Unfortuantely it is in French. He says that he has spoken to the technical people at Renault and his agent Gilles Bellec has spoken to the commercial people. He expects a reply within two weeks.

    Much as I like Franck, he better not get it.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:32

    Just wondering, are Renault replacing Bob bobbell or are they keeping him now?

    He will stay at the team but he may not be the team principal. I would expect someone new to get that job

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:32

    Thanks to Dank for that lovely tweet response ;)

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 18:32

    Hiiii. London is stupid busy. Nick is moaning about it being his last day.

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:32

    I have found Radio Canada's own version of Franck's interview. Unfortuantely it is in French. He says that he has spoken to the technical people at Renault and his agent Gilles Bellec has spoken to the commercial people. He expects a reply within two weeks.

    good research sir.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:33

    Hiiii. London is stupid busy. Nick is moaning about it being his last day.

    What a surprise. You and Nick together again

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:34

    Thanks to Dank for that lovely tweet response ;)

    huh?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:35

    huh?

    @feederseries Phwoar! I've got nothing else to say about the lady. I bid you good day.

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:36

    @feederseries Phwoar! I've got nothing else to say about the lady. I bid you good day.

    ahh, right. was looking here: http://sidepodcast.com/playground/microblogging.php

    i like his tweet to stuart.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:36

    I couldn't get the audio to play

    Pesky Silverlight [rolls eyes]

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:36

    What a surprise. You and Nick together again

    :-)

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:38

    ahh, right. was looking here: http://sidepod...und/microblogging.php

    RG, "I'm a Celeb", really?

    Timo's not on it is he?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:38

    Is it me or is the NASA TV commentary really quiet?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:38

    Hiiii. London is stupid busy. Nick is moaning about it being his last day.

    Is Dubai on your world wide trip-extravaganza-thingy?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:39

    Hiiii. London is stupid busy. Nick is moaning about it being his last day.

    His Visa came through then?

  • RG16/11/2009 at 18:39

    Timo's not on it is he?

    No, I just happen to like it...

    ...though if Timo was on it, added bonus.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:39

    Is it me or is the NASA TV commentary really quiet?

    It is now. The commentary when they were loading the crew was fine but since they switched to the launch and assent commentary i have had to turn it up full blast and it is still poor

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:40

    No, I just happen to like it...

    [shakes head in despair]

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:41

    Evening.

    Who made the millionth comment?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:42

    Who made the millionth comment?

    It's not a million yet just 500,000. Just seems unfair in that context though

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:42

    Who made the millionth comment?

    Has there been a million, I thought I read something about 500k on Twitter a few days ago?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:43

    Evening.

    Hey Jackie

    So, has the number been reached then?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:43

    I think it was Nick but I can't remember what he said

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 18:43

    Who made the millionth comment?

    Nick

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:43

    I think it was Nick but I can't remember what he said

    something about needing more hours in a day

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 18:43

    I think it was Nick but I can't remember what he said

    Something about there not being enough hours in the day.

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:43

    It's not a million yet just 500,000. Just seems unfair in that context though

    Oops I thout it was a million .. half a mill is still outstanding though

  • RG16/11/2009 at 18:44

    [shakes head in despair]

    Its good...

    I'm not going to win the argument, so won't bother.

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:44

    Something about there not being enough hours in the day.

    That's nice since he's heading off to warmer climes .. we'll have to stay up half the night to say hi now

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:44

    Oops I thout it was a million .. half a mill is still outstanding though

    It seems no time at all since 100,000. I would imagine the millionth will be around the end of next year

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:45

    Its good...

    I'm not going to win the argument, so won't bother.

    It's all relative but yes, you're right - that discussion is for another arena

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:45

    Something about there not being enough hours in the day.

    something like that :-)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 18:45

    I think it was Nick but I can't remember what he said

    Something about there not being enough hours in the day.

    That's kinda amusing when you think about it!

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:45

    It seems no time at all since 100,000. I would imagine the millionth will be around the end of next year

    I remember that :)

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:46

    Hi Bassano :)

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:48

    It seems no time at all since 100,000. I would imagine the millionth will be around the end of next year

    twas last year: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/12/31/1000-posts-100000-comments-and-counting/

    or if you prefer, longer ago than i can remember.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:48

    Hi Bassano :)

    I can reveal that I have been talking to people about driving for Brawn/Mercedes GP or McLaren. When there is more to reveal I hope to be able to talk about it some more ;)

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:48

    or if you prefer, longer ago than i can remember.

    That's no mean feat!

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 18:49

    What a surprise. You and Nick together again

    :( Meanie. I'm trying to leave the train is late.

  • Janna16/11/2009 at 18:49

    I finished the Grell Mystery as read by Christine http://librivo...tery-by-frank-froest/

    It was really good. And I heartily recommend it!

    Hello all. I have downloaded the book and am looking forward to listening. However, first I must listen to the Dr Who Commentary which is now on my iPod :) #sorrychristine

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:49

    That's no mean feat!

    400,000 in under 12 months. we really should get out more.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:50

    As much as I'd love to catch up with all the comments and tweets I don't think I'll have time today. After the launch and some food I need to be doing some studying for me exam retake. Who is on shooing duty?

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:50

    400,000 in under 12 months. we really should get out more.

    Come to Autosport

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 18:50

    400,000 in under 12 months. we really should get out more.

    Outside is dangerous! It has water....

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:50

    Come to Autosport

    been before. it bored me witless.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:51

    :( Meanie. I'm trying to leave the train is late.

    Did you get to see Michel?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:51

    400,000 in under 12 months. we really should get out more.

    Well, this is true but I was referrring to your "longer than I can remember" statement :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:51

    As much as I'd love to catch up with all the comments and tweets I don't think I'll have time today. After the launch and some food I need to be doing some studying for me exam retake. Who is on shooing duty?

    SHOOOOOO

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:51

    been before. it bored me witless.

    LOL so I have spent 37 quid on a ticket to be bored :(

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:51

    Well, this is true but I was referrring to your "longer than I can remember" statement :D

    oooh! ahah.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 18:51

    been before. it bored me witless.

    It'll be different this year! The same stalls will be arranged in a different fashion for a start...

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:51

    LOL so I have spent 37 quid on a ticket to be bored :(

    if you haven't been before it's fun.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:51

    It'll be different this year! The same stalls will be arranged in a different fashion for a start...

    hmmm ;)

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:52

    if you haven't been before it's fun.

    backpeddling?

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:52

    It'll be different this year! The same stalls will be arranged in a different fashion for a start...

    :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:52

    LOL so I have spent 37 quid on a ticket to be bored :(

    if you haven't been before it's fun.

    if you've not been before; go

    if you are interested in stuff other than f1; go

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:52

    backpeddling?

    yes.

    if i'm honest it is nowhere near the money you just paid. sorry.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 18:52

    backpeddling?

    No, that's true. The first Autosport is always fun.

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:53

    if i'm honest it is nowhere near the money you just paid. sorry.

    *it is not worth

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:53

    go on go on .. you know you want to! Mav's going too

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:53

    if i'm honest it is nowhere near the money you just paid. sorry.

    *it is not worth

    depends why you go

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:53

    No, that's true. The first Autosport is always fun.

    our first one wasn't 37 squid though.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:53

    SHOOOOOO

    Ta but later :-)

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:53

    depends why you go

    for the f1 stuff.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 18:53

    On a serious note: has anyone seem any promo codes for Autosport International? There were a few floating around last year, which softened the blow a bit.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:53

    No, that's true. The first Autosport is always fun.

    I want to go to a GMM event, pretty much anything could happen. Quite unpredictable :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:53

    our first one wasn't 37 squid though.

    she's got a paddock pass

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 18:54

    our first one wasn't 37 squid though.

    It costs £37????

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:54

    if you haven't been before it's fun.

    what if you haven't been for 6 yrs?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:54

    for the f1 stuff.

    jackie might not be just going for that.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:54

    what if you haven't been for 6 yrs?

    you will enjoy it because of all the non-f1 stuff.

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:54

    she's got a paddock pass

    We're having a PF meet-up and that's what the others bought

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:54

    I want to go to a GMM event, pretty much anything could happen. Quite unpredictable :D

    :D

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:55

    what if you haven't been for 6 yrs?

    good question.

    my objection is mostly with the cost. keep in mind parking could be another £15 on top of that. it's not worth the money in my opinion.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:55

    It costs £37????

    the extra bits make it cost that. the normal one is 26 i think?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 18:55

    I want to go to a GMM event, pretty much anything could happen. Quite unpredictable :D

    :D

    And guaranteed to be 10 new stands every hour!

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:55

    And guaranteed to be 10 new stands every hour!

    wow fast workers :-)

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:56

    the extra bits make it cost that. the normal one is 26 i think?

    was 35 + 2 quid booking fee

  • RG16/11/2009 at 18:56

    my objection is mostly with the cost. keep in mind parking could be another £15 on top of that. it's not worth the money in my opinion.

    I could go to a football match and be bored for cheaper than that.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:56

    my objection is mostly with the cost. keep in mind parking could be another £15 on top of that. it's not worth the money in my opinion.

    if you go for the f1 stuff, its not

    if you go for the whole show, it is

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:56

    my objection is mostly with the cost. keep in mind parking could be another £15 on top of that. it's not worth the money in my opinion.

    I forgot about parking. I thought it was a fiver when I went last time. I remember a lot of walking to/from the car.

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:56

    It costs £37????

    it's £30 per person without the paddock pass. plus parking. so for us:

    approx £75

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 18:57

    what if you haven't been for 6 yrs?

    You probably won't go for another six after attending this year's...

    But honestly, I say I don't like it, but I get to the end of December and have massive motorsport related withdrawal symptoms and always cave in and go.

    Highlight of 2009's ASI: the free goody bag given out at the end. The Brylcreem wax was tres good.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 18:57

    wow fast workers :-)

    I think they just copy it roughly from other places.

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:57

    if you go for the f1 stuff, its not

    if you go for the whole show, it is

    I'm not feeling I made the right decision now :(

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:57

    general admission is £29

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 18:57

    It costs £37????

    it's £30 per person without the paddock pass. plus parking. so for us:

    approx £75

    Plus petrol and food & drinks!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:57

    I'm not feeling I made the right decision now :(

    you totally did. just make sure you go round the whole show and you'll learn looooooads

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:57

    if you go for the f1 stuff, its not

    if you go for the whole show, it is

    can you judge fairly though? if you're going free with your uni?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:58

    #sidepodspace

    30 minutes till the launch and everything is going according to plan. So far the build up has been pretty boring as nothing has happened that wasn't schedu

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:58

    can you judge fairly though? if you're going free with your uni?

    i've paid for it for the last 3 years

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 18:58

    scheduled

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:58

    can you judge fairly though? if you're going free with your uni?

    i've paid for it for the last 3 years

    and even if i wasnt getting it for free this year, i'd still pay the money to go

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:58

    Plus petrol and food & drinks!

    oh yes. that too.

    let's call it a round £100 for one day.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 18:59

    You probably won't go for another six after attending this year's...

    I don't really intend to..

    But honestly, I say I don't like it, but I get to the end of December and have massive motorsport related withdrawal symptoms and always cave in and go.

    There's always the Dakar coverage. Or not.

    Highlight of 2009's ASI: the free goody bag given out at the end. The Brylcreem wax was tres good.

    Either they didn't do them when I went before or I never stayed until it closed..

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 18:59

    can you judge fairly though? if you're going free with your uni?

    Made me chuckle that the photo-editor chappy for Autosport said he wouldn't even attend if work hadn't made him on their forums.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 18:59

    let's call it a round £100 for one day.

    am not feeling a whole lot of ASI love ;)

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 18:59

    let's call it a round £100 for one day.

    :( :( parking is a rip off

  • me16/11/2009 at 18:59

    and even if i wasnt getting it for free this year, i'd still pay the money to go

    understood.

    i wouldn't mind so much if the lighting didn't suck lemons.

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:00

    am not feeling a whole lot of ASI love ;)

    i don't have any to give. sorry.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:00

    you totally did. just make sure you go round the whole show and you'll learn looooooads

    I'm not sure you will learn much. You can see lots of cars you've never heard of among industry products you've never heard about.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:00

    i wouldn't mind so much if the lighting didn't suck lemons.

    And if they invited someone other than DC.

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:00

    Anyone want a paddock pass going cheap?

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:00

    Made me chuckle that the photo-editor chappy for Autosport said he wouldn't even attend if work hadn't made him on their forums.

    :D

    :D

    oh dear.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 19:00

    let's call it a round £100 for one day.

    Aren't you classed as media or something? Surely they should get you in for free if you asked nicely?

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:00

    And if they invited someone other than DC.

    :(

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:01

    And if they invited someone other than DC.

    You got to speak to Franck last year

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:01

    I'm not sure you will learn much. You can see lots of cars you've never heard of among industry products you've never heard about.

    You talk to people then, pick up their leaflets etc etc.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:01

    :(

    Every year we went, another photo of DC. He's nice and all, but a bit of variety wouldn't go amiss.

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:01

    Anyone want a paddock pass going cheap?

    :D :D

    a PF meetup will make it all the better though.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:01

    I haven't yet decided whether to go. All I know is I'm doing karting anyway and since I'm there I may as well.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:01

    You got to speak to Franck last year

    No chance. I would stop breathing within three feet of Franck.

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:01

    a PF meetup will make it all the better though.

    I'm depressed now, that's worse than b***d

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:02

    i don't have any to give. sorry.

    hehehe from your point of view i completely agree. for f1, its rubbish

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:02

    You talk to people then, pick up their leaflets etc etc.

    I don't want a leaflet about a fuel injection system or brake pads.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:02

    No chance. I would stop breathing within three feet of Franck.

    Did you not go and get something autographed?

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 19:02

    No chance. I would stop breathing within three feet of Franck.

    Get Mr C to punch him in the back to get his attention

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:02

    Did you not go and get something autographed?

    I sent Mr C.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:02

    I don't want a leaflet about a fuel injection system or brake pads.

    #

    then dont talk to them. theres plenty of other people and stuff to look at

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:02

    I'm depressed now, that's worse than b***d

    Don't be. You will enjoy the show

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:02

    Aren't you classed as media or something? Surely they should get you in for free if you asked nicely?

    probably. last year they asked for every detail including your inside leg measurement. haven't looked what they need this year. either way i moaning about GA.

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:03

    Don't be. You will enjoy the show

    I have a petted lip

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:03

    I sent Mr C.

    That is terrible. I fhe is there this year he will probably want to meet Christine from the internet

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:04

    #sidepodspace

    25 minutes till launch and the commentary teal are spouting stats because they have nothing to talk about

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:04

    I have a petted lip

    we discussed last, but never got round to actually looking into, having a stand at the show.

    that would liven things up, if we could live stream from the event.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 19:04

    then dont talk to them. theres plenty of other people and stuff to look at

    The problem is with ASI is that it doesn't really know what it wants to be. It tries to pass itself off as being a good event for Joe Punter, but severely lacks anything to redeem the £30+ price tag for walking around what is effectively a trade show.

    I enjoy just about all forms of motor racing, from F1 down to Formula Ford, but even I had to concede I was bored rigid three hours into it. And don't get me started on the 'live show'...

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:05

    we discussed last, but never got round to actually looking into, having a stand at the show.

    Working on a trade show stand is great fun

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:05

    That is terrible. I fhe is there this year he will probably want to meet Christine from the internet

    Impossible.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:05

    that would liven things up, if we could live stream from the event.

    about what?

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 19:05

    That is terrible. I fhe is there this year he will probably want to meet Christine from the internet

    I'm not so sure this "Mr. C" even exists.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:05

    we discussed last, but never got round to actually looking into, having a stand at the show

    that would liven things up, if we could live stream from the event.

    Dr Giggles could have one next to you :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:06

    The problem is with ASI is that it doesn't really know what it wants to be. It tries to pass itself off as being a good event for Joe Punter, but severely lacks anything to redeem the £30+ price tag for walking around what is effectively a trade show.

    I think it was last year that they added piston heads, thats the joe public bit really. I don't spend more than 30 minutes in that section though, it does very little for me

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:06

    Impossible.

    I don't believe you

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:06

    Working on a trade show stand is great fun

    never done it, but it would put a new perspective on things i'm sure.

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:06

    Dr Giggles could have one next to you :D

    :P

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:06

    I don't believe you

    How could he meet Christine off the internet when she has passed out on the floor?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:06

    about what?

    How can you ask a question like that when we all watched Bassano put Alex's blind up?

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 19:06

    I think it was last year that they added piston heads, thats the joe public bit really. I don't spend more than 30 minutes in that section though, it does very little for me

    Christ on a bike. I completely forgot about the Pistonheads bit. If I really wanted to see some chav's Sabaru I'd pop along to Tesco's carpark after closing!

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:07

    I enjoy just about all forms of motor racing, from F1 down to Formula Ford, but even I had to concede I was bored rigid three hours into it. And don't get me started on the 'live show'...

    The live show used to be quite good, an okay way to pass 50 mins to an hour... is it not now?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:07

    Christ on a bike. I completely forgot about the Pistonheads bit. If I really wanted to see some chav's Sabaru I'd pop along to Tesco's carpark after closing!

    exatamundo

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:07

    I have a petted lip

    we discussed last, but never got round to actually looking into, having a stand at the show.

    that would liven things up, if we could live stream from the event.

    If you did that, even I would come over for that!

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:07

    Christ on a bike. I completely forgot about the Pistonheads bit. If I really wanted to see some chav's Sabaru I'd pop along to Tesco's carpark after closing!

    I'm not feeling the love for this

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:07

    that would liven things up, if we could live stream from the event.

    about what?

    if we had a stand, we could educate the passing unwashed to the perils of poor three-lettered f1 journalism.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:08

    never done it, but it would put a new perspective on things i'm sure.

    I have done it a couple of times. You end up meeting the weirdes people and discussing stuff that has no relation to why you are there

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:08

    I think it was last year that they added piston heads, thats the joe public bit really. I don't spend more than 30 minutes in that section though, it does very little for me

    Christ on a bike. I completely forgot about the Pistonheads bit. If I really wanted to see some chav's Sabaru I'd pop along to Tesco's carpark after closing!

    What exactly is Pistonheads? I saw a lot of cars with that logo on at Le Mans...

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:08

    I'm not feeling the love for this

    IGNORE EVERYONE! ;)

    Go for yourself. You'll either love it, hate it, or be non-plussed, but if you want to you'll learn alot and have fun

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:08

    if we had a stand, we could educate the passing unwashed to the perils of poor three-lettered f1 journalism.

    DO IT

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:08

    How could he meet Christine off the internet when she has passed out on the floor?

    He could revive you or fall over you and break his leg again

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 19:08

    The live show used to be quite good, an okay way to pass 50 mins to an hour... is it not now?

    I thought it was about as exciting as watching a scalextric set. Louise Goodman fluffing her lines last year was certainly entertaining though.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:08

    How can you ask a question like that when we all watched Bassano put Alex's blind up?

    I'm not going to ASI and I wouldn't be bringing an Orange Drill™ if I were ;)

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 19:08

    Christ on a bike. I completely forgot about the Pistonheads bit. If I really wanted to see some chav's Sabaru I'd pop along to Tesco's carpark after closing!

    I drive a Subaru. 06 STi to be exact. I'm offended! ;)

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:08

    DO IT

    Wasn't that hugely expensive?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:08

    Jackie, have you been before?

    If you haven't then go and make your own mind up.

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:08

    If you did that, even I would come over for that!

    you would? hmmm....

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:08

    What exactly is Pistonheads? I saw a lot of cars with that logo on at Le Mans...

    It's basically a show that catergorises the "Modified" Demon Tweeks catalogue

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 19:09

    What exactly is Pistonheads? I saw a lot of cars with that logo on at Le Mans...

    Chav-o-rama website, for, er, chavs: http://www.pistonheads.com/

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:09

    Jackie, have you been before?

    If you haven't then go and make your own mind up.

    Nope, never been Pat

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:09

    He could revive you or fall over you and break his leg again

    I would never forgive myself. I stay home.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:09

    it's rubbish. it really is. however, it's up to you to make it interesting and going as a group will certainly help.

    Mr C keeps leaving out *for f1

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:09

    Mr C keeps leaving out *for f1

    That's what this site is?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:09

    I thought it was about as exciting as watching a scalextric set. Louise Goodman fluffing her lines last year was certainly entertaining though.

    Hmm. I can see why it would. At that time I had yet to go to many races. I guess it could seem tame now.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:09

    if we had a stand, we could educate the passing unwashed to the perils of poor three-lettered f1 journalism.

    That would be fun. Someone should do a GMM stand and issue news stories every 15 minutes

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:10

    Wasn't that hugely expensive?

    i can't remember. lpg mentioned waiting until the last minute to get cheap deals, but we were busy over xmas.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:10

    What exactly is Pistonheads? I saw a lot of cars with that logo on at Le Mans...

    Chav-o-rama website, for, er, chavs: http://www.pistonheads.com/

    But the Pistonheads at Le Mans were DEFINITELY not chavs - in fact some of the best cars had the logo on them!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:10

    That's what this site is?

    thats not what AI is about

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 19:10

    See you at 10:30pm in the carpark then ;-)

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:10

    That would be fun. Someone should do a GMM stand and issue news stories every 15 minutes

    haha .. what about a donationsfest just for that if it's cheap enough

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 19:10

    See you at 10:30pm in the carpark then ;-)

    Wow my quoting madskillz where lacking then...

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:10

    Mr C keeps leaving out *for f1

    to my mind it's just rubbish. there is no "for f1".

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:11

    Nope, never been Pat

    Then go and make your own mind up. The first visit is great

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:11

    if we had a stand, we could educate the passing unwashed to the perils of poor three-lettered f1 journalism.

    That would be fun. Someone should do a GMM stand and issue news stories every 15 minutes

    :D :D

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:11

    thats not what AI is about

    says who?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:11

    I would never forgive myself. I stay home.

    My cinning plan failed

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:11

    My cinning plan failed

    cunning

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:11

    to my mind it's just rubbish. there is no "for f1".

    but would i be right in saying thats because you're not bothered about the rest of it?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:12

    Mr C keeps leaving out *for f1

    to my mind it's just rubbish. there is no "for f1".

    To be fair on this site, most people don't care for anything other than f1.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:12

    thats not what AI is about

    Are you sure?

    Because the public site has a main picture of two F1 cars, and I can also see Jenson. Everything else is beyond the jump.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:12

    says who?

    "Autosport International: The Racing Car Show"

    It's a motorsport show. Motorsport isn't just F1

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:13

    #sidepodspace

    15 minutes till launch. I think the crew could sleep through the launch window because nothing is happening

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:13

    To be fair on this site, most people don't care for anything other than f1.

    am very aware, but AI is about all kinds of motorsport

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:14

    To be fair on this site, most people don't care for anything other than f1.

    am very aware, but AI is about all kinds of motorsport

    I know, but to most people here they wouldn't care about that - they'd go for the F1.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:14

    but would i be right in saying thats because you're not bothered about the rest of it?

    this is the website:

    http://www.aut...rnational.com/public/

    you'll notice that the first part of the page is dedicated to f1 and all the other stuff is tucked underneath.

    out of the way.

    in the hope you don't see it.

    am aware, but thats because they're trying to get the public in for 2 days. you'd be stupid not to advertise it with f1 stuff, thats what the public like. but theres very little f1 in it and lots of other stuff

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 19:14

    Some reading material on ASI for you all:

    http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=106003

    and

    http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=105836

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:14

    I know, but to most people here they wouldn't care about that - they'd go for the F1.

    agreed.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:14

    am aware, but thats because they're trying to get the public in for 2 days. you'd be stupid not to advertise it with f1 stuff, thats what the public like. but theres very little f1 in it and lots of other stuff

    False advertising then? No wonder we didn't enjoy it.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:14

    I know, but to most people here they wouldn't care about that - they'd go for the F1.

    yup, which is why im saying "its rubbish" needs "for f1"

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:15

    am aware, but thats because they're trying to get the public in for 2 days. you'd be stupid not to advertise it with f1 stuff, thats what the public like. but theres very little f1 in it and lots of other stuff

    i know. but it's not very interesting.

    there's a whole section dedicated to santapod.

    case rests.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:15

    am aware, but thats because they're trying to get the public in for 2 days. you'd be stupid not to advertise it with f1 stuff, thats what the public like. but theres very little f1 in it and lots of other stuff

    False advertising then? No wonder we didn't enjoy it.

    I was about to make the same point

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:15

    All flight controllers polled and all say go for launch

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:16

    there's a whole section dedicated to santapod.

    this is my point. just because you dont like that, dosent mean someone else will. its a motorsport show. they have circuit and rally and autocross and autotests and oval and all sorts of stuff.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:16

    All flight controllers polled and all say go for launch

    They vote on whether they should launch now?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:16

    They vote on whether they should launch now?

    They always have.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:17

    They vote on whether they should launch now?

    They always have.

    Simon Cowell doesn't get a say there too, does he?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:17

    http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

    launch soooon

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:17

    They vote on whether they should launch now?

    They don't vote. If one of them says no go then they don't go.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:17

    Simon Cowell doesn't get a say there too, does he?

    we could put jedward in the shuttle? theres still time?

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:17

    yup, which is why im saying "its rubbish" needs "for f1"

    my experience tells me the event is rubbish. it tells me it isn't worth the money they charge and i don't recommend it.

    car geeks will probably love it. three years olds will also love it.

    however it is too expensive for what is basically some marketing stalls housed in a shed.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:18

    Simon Cowell doesn't get a say there too, does he?

    Not until the shuttle replacement

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:18

    #sidepodspace

    10 minutes till launch

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:18

    we could put jedward in the shuttle? theres still time?

    Only if this launch is aborted and they go tomorrow

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:18

    we could put jedward in the shuttle? theres still time?

    As much as I hate this 'two-names combined' convention, I have to agree with this idea

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:19

    They vote on whether they should launch now?

    They don't vote. If one of them says no go then they don't go.

    A bit like the Euro Constitution then ;)

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:19

    A bit like the Euro Constitution then ;)

    Except everyone gets asked

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:20

    however it is too expensive for what is some marketing stalls housed in a shed. end of.

    i agree with the expensive bit. but what im saying is that if you're going for f1 stuff. then yes, its rubbish.

    but if you are a fan of other things, then its more worth it

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:20

    How obserd....3...2....1.....9 minutes and counting. It gets me everytime

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:20

    but if you are a fan of other things, then its more worth it

    they had big chris and franck: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/10/from-autosport-international-2009/

    i got nothing left to add :)

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:21

    but if you are a fan of other things, then its more worth it

    If you are involved in motorsport in any way, it is more worth it. As an observer, it's not really helpful to look at nuts and bolts.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:21

    How obserd....3...2....1.....9 minutes and counting. It gets me everytime

    You would think a countdown would be pretty straightforward but not for NASA

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:21

    i go nothing left to add :)

    hehe i get your point, and you are kind of right, you're just also wrong :P

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:22

    however it is too expensive for what is some marketing stalls housed in a shed. end of.

    think I'll go to bed depressed .. I am a mean Scot you know!

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:22

    If you are involved in motorsport in any way, it is more worth it. As an observer, it's not really helpful to look at nuts and bolts.

    it should be a trade show for those in the trade.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:22

    If you are involved in motorsport in any way, it is more worth it. As an observer, it's not really helpful to look at nuts and bolts.

    I love all the historic cars. Every time I go I see things I have never seen before

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:22

    So, I wonder when there will be a BrawnGP merchandise sale?

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:22

    think I'll go to bed depressed .. I am a mean Scot you know!

    in fairness, you only asked our opinion afterwards :)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:22

    If you are involved in motorsport in any way, it is more worth it. As an observer, it's not really helpful to look at nuts and bolts.

    I love all the historic cars. Every time I go I see things I have never seen before

    i think it depends what you go for.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:22

    think I'll go to bed depressed .. I am a mean Scot you know!

    You will enjoy it. it's your first time so you get the first impression hit that others don't

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:23

    it should be a trade show for those in the trade.

    As much as I'm inclined to agree with this, it is a good way for those who cannot afford to go to a GP to get to look at F1 cars reasonably closely.

  • jackie / saltire16/11/2009 at 19:23

    in fairness, you only asked our opinion afterwards :)

    That's true .. thanks for putting in perspective

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:23

    T-5 minutes and counting

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:24

    That's true .. thanks for putting in perspective

    just go with an open mind and look for non-f1 things that you may/may not be interested in.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:24

    So, I wonder when there will be a BrawnGP merchandise sale?

    Surely the collector's will be snapping that stuff up now

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:24

    Surely the collector's will be snapping that stuff up now

    One season as a team and won everything. The collectors will be like locusts

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:25

    just go with an open mind and look for non-f1 things that you may/may not be interested in.

    *at

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:25

    So, I wonder when there will be a BrawnGP merchandise sale?

    Surely the collector's will be snapping that stuff up now

    Quite happy I managed to get one of the few hats remaining in the shop in London, the day after the museum meetup

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:25

    I have a 30 second delay on my NASA video feed

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:25

    I have a 30 second delay on my NASA video feed

    quick refresh?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:26

    think I'll go to bed depressed .. I am a mean Scot you know!

    in fairness, you only asked our opinion afterwards :)

    Funny story for you.

    You know how the previous owner is listed on the registration document of a used car, so you can contact them and ask them if it's legit?

    Well, someone called a friend of my dad's and asked him "Did you used to own a Vauxhall Cavalier SRI?". My dad's mate responded with "Yeah mate, and I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. It got broken into three times, then got stolen and was written off!". To which the guy inquiring responded "Oh... I just bought it!"

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:26

    quick refresh?

    That is after the refresh. Not prepared to risk another this late

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 19:26

    Surely the collector's will be snapping that stuff up now

    Noones having my Rubens hat

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:26

    lifting the cap

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:27

    lifting the cap

    No string involved

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:27

    That is after the refresh. Not prepared to risk another this late

    Another browser?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:27

    Surely the collector's will be snapping that stuff up now

    Noones having my Rubens hat

    How much was it, BTW?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:27

    1 minute to go

  • lou16/11/2009 at 19:27

    So, I wonder when there will be a BrawnGP merchandise sale?

    well the Jenson hoodie has increased in price from £40 - £60 :( so am guessing prices will go up before they go down.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 19:28

    How much was it, BTW?

    I can't remember, it was a LOT cheaper than the Jenson ones though at Goodwood when I got it

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:28

    So, I wonder when there will be a BrawnGP merchandise sale?

    well the Jenson hoodie has increased in price from £40 - £60 :( so am guessing prices will go up before they go down.

    Seriously? Unbelievable! At least McLaren dropped their prices!

  • lou16/11/2009 at 19:28

    Seriously? Unbelievable! At least McLaren dropped their prices!

    seriously.. and i really want one :(

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:29

    Engines lit

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 19:29

    5Live talking Mercedes with Johnnie Herbert...

    Still rabbiting on about Merc having 2 German drivers despite Merc plus Fry saying that wasn't happening....

    Grrrrrr.......

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:29

    Seriously? Unbelievable! At least McLaren dropped their prices!

    seriously.. and i really want one :(

    Can you not ask Santa?

  • lou16/11/2009 at 19:30

    Can you not ask Santa?

    i could... but who knows how long they'll be around for now.. *is in a really bad mood and needs cheering up*

    i didn't say hi.. sorry. so... hi.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:30

    5Live talking Mercedes with Johnnie Herbert...

    Still rabbiting on about Merc having 2 German drivers despite Merc plus Fry saying that wasn't happening....

    Grrrrrr.......

    Do we think part of Merc buying into Brawn is because McLaren never ran a German driver?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:30

    They got through throttle up without blowing up. Phew

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:31

    Solid rocket boosters jettisoned

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:31

    They got through throttle up without blowing up. Phew

    fantastic!

    SRB separation

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 19:31

    Can you not ask Santa?

    Other parents were upset with me last year because my 6 year old was going around telling other kids Santa wasn't real.

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 19:31

    "Can you not ask Santa?"

    I wonder if Ross or Norbs will play Santa at the Brawn/Merc Christmas party....

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:32

    We are not hearing much radio traffic

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:32

    Can you not ask Santa?

    Other parents were upset with me last year because my 6 year old was going around telling other kids Santa wasn't real.

    You told a 6 year old the secret? What a spoilsport!

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:32

    Hi Lou! :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:32

    We are not hearing much radio traffic

    Astronaut.... Box Box Box...

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:33

    Do we think part of Merc buying into Brawn is because McLaren never ran a German driver?

    No

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 19:33

    You told a 6 year old the secret? What a spoilsport!

    I told him no such thing.

    He figured it out on his own.

  • lou16/11/2009 at 19:33

    Hi Lou! :D

    hi

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:33

    Astronaut.... Box Box Box...

    :D

    They just got told they can't pit

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:33

    You told a 6 year old the secret? What a spoilsport!

    I told him no such thing.

    He figured it out on his own.

    How???

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:33

    Video froze

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:34

    Do we think part of Merc buying into Brawn is because McLaren never ran a German driver?

    No

    Jeez... don't waffle or anything ;)

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 19:34

    "Do we think part of Merc buying into Brawn is because McLaren never ran a German driver?"

    No... it's because Macca:-

    1. Are building their own car in competition and

    2. The did the dirty on Merc when they sold out some of Ron's shares to the Middle East crowd who do what Ron and Mansoor say.....

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 19:34

    Video froze

    ok here on the windows media feed

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:34

    ok here on the windows media feed

    Back again

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:35

    Jeez... don't waffle or anything ;)

    :D

    What Lady Snowcat said

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:35

    They can now make Zaragoza should they lose two engines

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:35

    1. Are building their own car in competition and

    2. The did the dirty on Merc when they sold out some of Ron's shares to the Middle East crowd who do what Ron and Mansoor say.....

    Can you elaborate on point two please?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:35

    :D

    What Lady Snowcat said

    And they want a Mercedes Factory team

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:36

    Can you elaborate on point two please?

    They'll always vote with Ron & his mates, not Mercedes

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:37

    Can you elaborate on point two please?

    Mercedes plan was to buy 40% of the shares and gradually take control. Ron and Ojjeh sold half their shares to Mumtalakat to stop Mecr getting control. From that day their relationship changed

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:37

    Can you elaborate on point two please?

    They'll always vote with Ron & his mates, not Mercedes

    Right, I get you now...

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:37

    Should be close to dumping the external fuel tank now

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:38

    That separation looked good

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 19:38

    How???

    He didn't really fall for that "magical fly around the world in 24 hours" stuff.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:39

    He didn't really fall for that "magical fly around the world in 24 hours" stuff.

    clearly you didnt show him the google earth gps on christmas eve!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:40

    How???

    He didn't really fall for that "magical fly around the world in 24 hours" stuff.

    Your son is a cynic!

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 19:40

    go on go on .. you know you want to! Mav's going too

    I think someone needs to rethink their strategy for persuading people to go to ASI :-)

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:41

    #sidepodspace

    Well as launches go that was about as good as it could be. Not the most interesting to watch because there were no problems for them to deal with but for once you have to say great job NASA.

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:41

    I think someone needs to rethink their strategy for persuading people to go to ASI :-)

    :D

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 19:41

    Your son is a cynic!

    Nah, he just figured it out before most other kids.

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 19:45

    "Can you elaborate on point two please?"

    Ahhhh....

    Yes of course....

    In 2006 Daimler looked like it was going to buy the 60% held by Ron and OJ (they already had 40%)....

    Then in 2007 the Mumtalakat Company owned by Bahrain, took 15% each from Ron and his chum.... which meant that Ron and OJ didn't need Merc dosh and furthermore they had not lost control (as Mumta looked to Ron and Ojjeh).... soMerc said bye bye to owning Macca... and felt totally stitched up and stuck with 40%....

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 19:45

    go on go on .. you know you want to! Mav's going too

    Yes, I will be signing autographs in the paddock before anyone asks ;-)

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 19:45

    Evening happy campers.

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 19:46

    Nah, he just figured it out before most other kids.

    Now, if, instead of Santa, it was Jedi Knights who came around and gave presents to the good kids, and Darth Maul visited the bad kids, he might have beleived that :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:47

    "Can you elaborate on point two please?"

    Ahhhh....

    Yes of course....

    In 2006 Daimler looked like it was going to buy the 60% held by Ron and OJ (they already had 40%)....

    Then in 2007 the Mumtalakat Company owned by Bahrain, took 15% each from Ron and his chum.... which meant that Ron and OJ didn't need Merc dosh and furthermore they had not lost control (as Mumta looked to Ron and Ojjeh).... soMerc said bye bye to owning Macca... and felt totally stitched up and stuck with 40%....

    I recall that now - I saw that as Ron protecting the team from being bought out by Mercedes...

    Makes sense, and I would like to see McLaren build their own engines... lord knows there's enough engineers to go round!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 19:47

    Now, if, instead of Santa, it was Jedi Knights who came around and gave presents to the good kids, and Darth Maul visited the bad kids, he might have beleived that :)

    i think you need to show him polar express ;)

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:47

    #sidepodspace

    Nothing more to see today. Tomorrow the crew will carry out the inspection of the underside of the shuttle to make sure the heat shield survived the launch.

    They dock with the ISS on Wednesday although I have no idea of the time yet and on Thursday they carry out the first spacewalk.

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:47

    Yes, I will be signing autographs in the paddock before anyone asks ;-)

    hehe. apparently a 6m² stand is approx 2k for four days!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 19:47

    Yes, I will be signing autographs in the paddock before anyone asks ;-)

    hehe. apparently a 6m² stand is approx 2k for four days!

    How many microphone stands is that?

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 19:48

    i think you need to show him polar express ;)

    He's seen it many times, although not recently.

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:48

    How many microphone stands is that?

    eleven and a bit.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:49

    hehe. apparently a 6m² stand is approx 2k for four days!

    You are going to have to do a monthly sidepodradio day next year to pay for that

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 19:49

    He didn't really fall for that "magical fly around the world in 24 hours" stuff.

    This reindeer stuff isn't very MFC is it?

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:49

    You are going to have to do a monthly sidepodradio day next year to pay for that

    i was hoping it would be more like £600 :(

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 19:51

    You are going to have to do a monthly sidepodradio day next year to pay for that

    i was hoping it would be more like £600 :(

    What have I missed :S

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:52

    i was hoping it would be more like £600 :(

    Trade show stands are always a rip off. The first time I organised one I was gobsmacked by the cost and the cost for all the extras. It cost us more to rent a fridge for a week than it would have done to buy it but rules said you couldn't supply your own. etc.

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:53

    What have I missed :S

    was hoping to make autosport international a bit more exciting, by getting a sidepodstand there, for people to hang out at.

    slightly more pricey than expected.

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 19:53

    Did you get to see Michel?

    YES!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my god it was pure awesome!!!! He shook my hand and said it was nice to meet me. I nearly exploded with joy. I'm not allowed to mention it anymore though. Apparently I've been going on about it..... :D :D :D

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 19:54

    was hoping to make autosport international a bit more exciting, by getting a sidepodstand there, for people to hang out at.

    Ah...

    Shame, that would have been a laugh. Which reminds me....I must buy tickets

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 19:54

    His Visa came through then?

    Not sure you're even still around but yes there has been much sortage.

    We failed on the shoebuying front though.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:55

    was hoping to make autosport international a bit more exciting, by getting a sidepodstand there, for people to hang out at.

    And Christine can do F1 minute live every hour in front of an audience

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:55

    And Christine can do F1 minute live every hour in front of an audience

    omg!

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:56

    YES!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my god it was pure awesome!!!! He shook my hand and said it was nice to meet me. I nearly exploded with joy. I'm not allowed to mention it anymore though. Apparently I've been going on about it..... :D :D :D

    I haven't seen a mention of it. Tell me more. Did you taste his cooking?

    Should Christine meet Franck?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:56

    omg!

    That is not a no so it is going to happen. ASI 2011 - The Christine show

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 19:57

    And Christine can do F1 minute live every hour in front of an audience

    Wait a minute...

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 19:57

    was hoping to make autosport international a bit more exciting, by getting a sidepodstand there, for people to hang out at.

    You mean you're not having a completely separate sidepodcast international?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:57

    Wait a minute...

    An F1 Minute? ;)

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:58

    Wait a minute...

    If you have a stand you need something to attract a crowd

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:58

    That is not a no so it is going to happen. ASI 2011 - The Christine show

    hold on... i may have found better prices. you get customise you space:

    £275 per m2 plus VAT

    how small can we get away with?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:58

    You mean you're not having a completely separate sidepodcast international?

    You have to build up to that

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:58

    You mean you're not having a completely separate sidepodcast international?

    gotta run before you walk :)

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:58

    gotta run before you walk :)

    ...

    ...

    that isn't right is it?

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 19:59

    Two M2? that's enough for a table and a sign surely??

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 19:59

    how small can we get away with?

    How vertical can you go in your m2?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 19:59

    that isn't right is it?

    Sure, if you like

  • me16/11/2009 at 19:59

    How vertical can you go in your m2?

    doesn't say.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 19:59

    how small can we get away with?

    You would need at least 4 and probably 6

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:00

    that isn't right is it?

    I like the philosophy

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:00

    doesn't say.

    1m2 x 20m high, think tall ;-)

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:00

    Two M2? that's enough for a table and a sign surely??

    also, that might be £275 per m2 plus VAT per day. not sure?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:00

    Two M2? that's enough for a table and a sign surely??

    You need more space than that.

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 20:00

    I haven't seen a mention of it. Tell me more. Did you taste his cooking?

    Well I saw him walking the other way and absolutely screamed to my friend "IT'S MICHEL ROUX" and he heard and came over chuckling to himself..... I had some food from his stall but nothing he had personally made boooooo! I should have said something intelligent but no I was more like "Michel...... I ooooh it's Michel"

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:01

    James Allen has posted about Brawn and Mercedes etc. He makes a comment at the end about server issues - which might be worth some of you here who know what you are talking about to feel free to comment on...

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:01

    1m2 x 20m high, think tall ;-)

    What, tennis umpire high chair tall?

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:01

    You would need at least 4 and probably 6

    that puts us back over £1,000 :(

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:01

    1m2 x 20m high, think tall ;-)

    You could park a cherrypicker in front of the stand and raise visitors to the level that interested them

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 20:01

    that puts us back over £1,000 :(

    And what is that telling you?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:01

    also, that might be£ 275 per m2 plus VAT per day.

    That is ridiculous

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:02

    What, tennis umpire high chair tall?

    Christine stood on top of all the electronics via step ladder

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:02

    That is ridiculous

    possibly not. there's very little info:

    http://www.autosport-international.com/trade/exhibiting

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:02

    You could park a cherrypicker in front of the stand and raise visitors to the level that interested them

    :D :D

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:02

    possibly not. there's very little info:

    Surely there's a number you can call to enquire?

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:02

    And what is that telling you?

    you're not liking this idea?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:03

    Well I saw him walking the other way and absolutely screamed to my friend "IT'S MICHEL ROUX" and he heard and came over chuckling to himself..... I had some food from his stall but nothing he had personally made boooooo! I should have said something intelligent but no I was more like "Michel...... I ooooh it's Michel"

    It was very nice of him to come and speak to you rather than get security to evict you as a nutter.

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 20:04

    You would need at least 4 and probably 6

    6??? my room is 9m2 and my old room was 5m2. What do you want to put in all that space?

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:04

    you're not liking this idea?

    I'm guessing so if it turns out to be that expensive.

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:04

    Surely there's a number you can call to enquire?

    course. but i needs to know now :)

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 20:04

    you're not liking this idea?

    I'm curious why you want to give money to a trade show you fundamentally dislike. I would have thought Goodwood would be better.

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:04

    I'm curious why you want to give money to a trade show you fundamentally dislike. I would have thought Goodwood would be better.

    There is the matter of a few cars driving up and down a hill. That might turn attention a way just a tad.

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:05

    I'm curious why you want to give money to a trade show you fundamentally dislike. I would have thought Goodwood would be better.

    well. at autosport you don't have to battle the weather. and i want to like, it's just not very good. so am trying to make it interesting for myself, mostly.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:05

    also, that might be£ 275 per m2 plus VAT per day.

    It is plus VAT but it's £250+VAT for the space only - i would bet there is a minimum square metreage though.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:05

    possibly not. there's very little info:

    It doesn't say per day and no-one wants to sell stands on a daily rate as it causes them way too much work. They sell them for the duration and it is up to you if you don't use it.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 20:05

    well. at autosport you don't have to battle the weather. and i want to like, it's just not very good. so am trying to make it interesting for myself, mostly.

    What am I thinking?? Goodwood is outside!

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:05

    There is the matter of a few cars driving up and down a hill. That might turn attention a way just a tad.

    With ASI, it's just trade stands and the only driving is done in a small makeshift arena. Thus, apart from that, there are no moving cars so static displays are all they can look at.

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:06

    It is plus VAT but it's £250+VAT for the space only - i would bet there is a minimum square metreage though.

    i quite liked the idea of a fascia nameboard?

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:06

    What am I thinking?? Goodwood is outside!

    :P

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:06

    With ASI, it's just trade stands and the only driving is done in a small makeshift arena. Thus, apart from that, there are no moving cars so static displays are all they can look at.

    i like your thinking.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:06

    i quite liked the idea of a fascia nameboard?

    You could portable

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:07

    It doesn't say per day and no-one wants to sell stands on a daily rate as it causes them way too much work. They sell them for the duration and it is up to you if you don't use it.

    oh good. so 3m squared is too small?

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:07

    You could portable

    You could GO portable

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:07

    You could portable

    You could GO portable

    Like Sidepodchat in Hyde Park?

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 20:08

    You could GO portable

    Send someone flyering around the arena...

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:09

    6??? my room is 9m2 and my old room was 5m2. What do you want to put in all that space?

    how much space do we need to get a table and maybe 8 chairs in? enough to record some podcasts.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 20:09

    how small can we get away with?

    just need a table for the laptop and somewhere to recharge things?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:09

    oh good. so 3m squared is too small?

    What are you going to have on the stand and what you plan to use it for. It also depends where it is. If you are on a corner you have twice as much open area for the same area

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:10

    just need a table for the laptop and somewhere to recharge things?

    You could also get a couple of the pictures you've taken blown up and put on display as well.

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 20:10

    how much space do we need to get a table and maybe 8 chairs in? enough to record some podcasts.

    oh. a double bed is 2m x 1.4-1.6 so about 3m2. try out if you can fit your kitchen table on there.

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 20:10

    "hold on... i may have found better prices. you get customise you space:

    £275 per m2 plus VAT

    how small can we get away with?"

    Well a sq metre could have a table with a laptop on it with webcam and instructions....

    You could then interact remotely with attendees....

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:10

    how much space do we need to get a table and maybe 8 chairs in? enough to record some podcasts.

    What you want to do is tie up with a company that wouldn't mind some live podcasting from their stand.

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:10

    What are you going to have on the stand and what you plan to use it for. It also depends where it is. If you are on a corner you have twice as much open area for the same area

    i have nothing planned. i like the idea of a corner though.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:11

    oh. a double bed is 2m x 1.4-1.6 so about 3m2. try out if you can fit your kitchen table on there.

    They need a double bed in their stand? ;-)

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:11

    Well a sq metre could have a table with a laptop on it with webcam and instructions....

    You could then interact remotely with attendees....

    :D

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:11

    oh. a double bed is 2m x 1.4-1.6 so about 3m2. try out if you can fit your kitchen table on there.

    Or put 8 people on a bed. That would attract a crowd

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:11

    You could then interact remotely with attendees....

    Live comment with them

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:12

    Or put 8 people on a bed. That would attract a crowd

    Woah, I don't like where that's going!

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:12

    What you want to do is tie up with a company that wouldn't mind some live podcasting from their stand.

    maybe. but what we want is somewhere for everyone to be able to meet up, no?

    "can we do a podcast from your stand, oh, and invite everyone we know" might be hard to swing?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:12

    What you want to do is tie up with a company that wouldn't mind some live podcasting from their stand.

    That is a good idea. I wonder who would be interested in that.

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 20:12

    Woah, I don't like where that's going!

    Well.... depends on who's on the bed....

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:13

    Or put 8 people on a bed. That would attract a crowd

    Is it some kind of tribute to James Hunt?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:13

    "can we do a podcast from your stand, oh, and invite everyone we know" might be hard to swing?

    you need one of those companys with a huuuuuuuuge stand

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 20:13

    Well.... depends on who's on the bed....

    and I should definitely stop there :) *smacks self*

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:13

    you need one of those companys with a huuuuuuuuge stand

    Hijack the Autosport Stage.

    "Excuse me Jenson, I know you're on now but we have a podcast to record..."

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:14

    you need one of those companys with a huuuuuuuuge stand

    You need a cafe area - they often have a dj or something - why not make it motorsport relevant

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:14

    "Excuse me Jenson, I know you're on now but we have a podcast to record..."

    "infact, how would you like to be on one?"

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:14

    "can we do a podcast from your stand, oh, and invite everyone we know" might be hard to swing?

    It might work for something like AUTOSPORT or F1 Racing where they have a huge area and another 8 people is going to make no difference whatever

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 20:14

    You need a cafe area - they often have a dj or something - why not make it motorsport relevant

    Quiz quiz quiz!!!

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:15

    It might work for something like AUTOSPORT or F1 Racing where they have a huge area and another 8 people is going to make no difference whatever

    F1 Racing? Stuart C! Maybe...

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 20:15

    You need a cafe area - they often have a dj or something - why not make it motorsport relevant

    Quiz quiz quiz!!!

    well, if Mav is going to be there anyway..

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:16

    well, if Mav is going to be there anyway..

    And Jackie.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:16

    It might work for something like AUTOSPORT or F1 Racing where they have a huge area and another 8 people is going to make no difference whatever

    GP+?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:17

    well, if Mav is going to be there anyway..

    and do the answers after each question to keep it flowing

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:17

    GP+?

    Is Joe even going to be at ASI this year?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:17

    Is Joe even going to be at ASI this year?

    doubt it

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:17

    Is Joe even going to be at ASI this year?

    Don't know, hence the question mark.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 20:17

    Right, I have to fill my head with numbers. Don't let me come back before 11.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:18

    Right, I have to fill my head with numbers. Don't let me come back before 11.

    I shooed you ages ago!

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 20:18

    Right, I have to fill my head with numbers. Don't let me come back before 11.

    Shoo!

  • Lewis16/11/2009 at 20:18

    Good evening!

    Crazy day...there was a bus crash on the way back from school, where a tractor hit the bus with it's grabby thing at the top, WITH the kids in it. Apparently, two people are in shock in A&E and another has bad spinal injuries...it really hit me that I know people on that bus...

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 20:19

    Crazy day...there was a bus crash on the way back from school, where a tractor hit the bus with it's grabby thing at the top, WITH the kids in it. Apparently, two people are in shock in A&E and another has bad spinal injuries...it really hit me that I know people on that bus...

    Damn, hope everyone gets well soon :(

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:19

    Crazy day...there was a bus crash on the way back from school, where a tractor hit the bus with it's grabby thing at the top, WITH the kids in it. Apparently, two people are in shock in A&E and another has bad spinal injuries...it really hit me that I know people on that bus...

    oh man! thats terrible :( hope they get better

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:19

    Good evening!

    Crazy day...there was a bus crash on the way back from school, where a tractor hit the bus with it's grabby thing at the top, WITH the kids in it. Apparently, two people are in shock in A&E and another has bad spinal injuries...it really hit me that I know people on that bus...

    Bloody hell! I hope you are ok?

    Have you got a link to a news article, just out of interest?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 20:20

    Crazy day...there was a bus crash on the way back from school, where a tractor hit the bus with it's grabby thing at the top, WITH the kids in it. Apparently, two people are in shock in A&E and another has bad spinal injuries...it really hit me that I know people on that bus...

    Hope they get better :-(

  • Lewis16/11/2009 at 20:20

    Damn, hope everyone gets well soon :(

    it's just so scary that I know people on the bus, and, if had hit in a different place, I might not have seen them again...I'm shaken...

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 20:21

    Crazy day...there was a bus crash on the way back from school, where a tractor hit the bus with it's grabby thing at the top, WITH the kids in it. Apparently, two people are in shock in A&E and another has bad spinal injuries...it really hit me that I know people on that bus...

    Yikes!

  • Lewis16/11/2009 at 20:21

    Bloody hell! I hope you are ok?

    it scared me! I went on facebook to discuss Xmas stuff, and suddenly I saw all these statuses about the bus...

  • Lewis16/11/2009 at 20:23

    In F1 news...I am very upset Mercedes GP...

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:24

    In F1 news...I am very upset Mercedes GP...

    I kinda wanted Brawn to stay independant too... but if it secures their future it must be a good thing

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:25

    In F1 news...I am very upset Mercedes GP...

    I kinda wanted Brawn to stay independant too... but if it secures their future it must be a good thing

    And TBH nothing changes ... just the person putting the big bucks in.

  • Lewis16/11/2009 at 20:25

    I kinda wanted Brawn to stay independant too... but if it secures their future it must be a good thing

    but it doesn't even have Brawn in it's name...

    And it's being cheeky enough to say that it wants an all German line up...

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 20:26

    Be right back...need to go buy beer..

  • Lewis16/11/2009 at 20:26

    Bloody hell! I hope you are ok?

    I didn't see, I just heard about it. I am, today, so thankful that I walk! :)

  • jpancoast16/11/2009 at 20:26

    Be right back...need to go buy beer..

    what kind?

  • Lewis16/11/2009 at 20:26

    Be right back...need to go buy beer..

    hehe...have fun!

  • RG16/11/2009 at 20:26

    In F1 news...I am very upset Mercedes GP...

    Might have been nice if they went Mercedes Brawn, like with BMW Sauber.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:27

    And it's being cheeky enough to say that it wants an all German line up...

    Depends on who you believe

  • Lewis16/11/2009 at 20:27

    Depends on who you believe

    eurosport

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:28

    And TBH nothing changes ... just the person putting the big bucks in.

    I disagree, this'll be Mercedes' team, not Brawns

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:28

    Might have been nice if they went Mercedes Brawn, like with BMW Sauber.

    That was the plan with McLaren. Mercedes were not going to make that mistake again. They were always going to use their own name as soon as possible.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:28

    Depends on who you believe

    eurosport

    Therein lies the problem ;)

  • lou16/11/2009 at 20:29

    I kinda wanted Brawn to stay independant too... but if it secures their future it must be a good thing

    it depends whether it's mercedes gp with Jenson driving or not..

    .....

    ....

    *continues to mumble and complain*

    ......

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 20:29

    eurosport

    How about believing the actual people?

    There has been a lot of speculation that the new Mercedes team may field two German drivers next season?

    I read some speculation and I understand this because we could not give this information earlier. But this will be an international team for Mercedes-Benz is a global player. If you look back in our history we have very often been criticised for not having a German driver, so we were always open and we took the driver decision always together with McLaren. This will be the same in the future. We want to have the best ones and we definitely do not want to have the pure German team - it's an international Silver Arrows team and we want to have the best drivers in the car.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80175

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 20:30

    "And it's being cheeky enough to say that it wants an all German line up..."

    In the Q&As with Mr Daimler and Norb they say it won't be all German... and Nick Fry said the same on the Beeb....

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:30

    Might have been nice if they went Mercedes Brawn, like with BMW Sauber.

    Brawn are world champions though and therefore too strong a brand - everyone would have called them Brawn for short whereas BMW Sauber were generally referred to as BMW.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:30

    And TBH nothing changes ... just the person putting the big bucks in.

    I disagree, this'll be Mercedes' team, not Brawns

    Brawn's with Honda's money, you mean?

  • RG16/11/2009 at 20:31

    Brawn are world champions though and therefore too strong a brand - everyone would have called them Brawn for short whereas BMW Sauber were generally referred to as BMW.

    Well cept for me, but that makes sense. I see whatcha mean.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:31

    it depends whether it's mercedes gp with Jenson driving or not..

    It will be. It is a certainty. There is no other possibility.

    *continues to mumble and complain*......

    Stop mumbling and complaining and go watch Jenson in the triathlon on 4OD.

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 20:31

    Don't forget that Ross never really wanted it to be Brawn GP... they just couldn't think of anything better....

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:31

    How about believing the actual people?

    Exactly

    The Eurosport F1 app has those words quoted too. It's the so-called pundits and GMM-a-likes that are talking about an all Deustche line up

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:32

    Don't forget that Ross never really wanted it to be Brawn GP... they just couldn't think of anything better....

    That's funny - there were loads of names floating around...

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:33

    Brawn's with Honda's money, you mean?

    Honda sold the team, it wasn't owned by them this year. They just put lots of money in the meter before the season started

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 20:33

    "That's funny - there were loads of names floating around..."

    But none of them were right... especially if they saw themselves selling out pretty quickly and I recall that was always the plan...

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 20:33

    Oh and re the Brawn name ... they had to be careful with Honda sensitivities....

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:34

    Brawn's with Honda's money, you mean?

    Honda sold the team, it wasn't owned by them this year. They just put lots of money in the meter before the season started

    So do you think Mercedes will take over the team? Or will they let 'Brawn' run it?

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:34

    The Eurosport F1 app has those words quoted too. It's the so-called pundits and GMM-a-likes that are talking about an all Deustche line up

    ...and andrew benson.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:34

    The Eurosport F1 app has those words quoted too. It's the so-called pundits and GMM-a-likes that are talking about an all Deustche line up

    ...and andrew benson.

    Andrew Benson would never use GMM sources though!

    ....oh wait...

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:34

    ...and andrew benson.

    He read it in the Daily Mail so figures it must be true

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:34

    Don't forget that Ross never really wanted it to be Brawn GP... they just couldn't think of anything better....

    It's a shame that Staedtler pulled out as title sponsor when the credit cruch went huge

  • lou16/11/2009 at 20:35

    It will be. It is a certainty. There is no other possibility.

    they wont have a german line up? (am really hanging on your words here because i so want Jenson to stay....)

    Stop mumbling and complaining and go watch Jenson in the triathlon on 4OD.

    i would but i'm watching merlin on iplayer atm.. a

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:35

    So do you think Mercedes will take over the team? Or will they let 'Brawn' run it?

    Brawn will be the team principal but Mercedes will be running the company

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 20:35

    "So do you think Mercedes will take over the team? Or will they let 'Brawn' run it?"

    They have said it'll be up to Ross.... and let's face it you could not have a better Technical Director... not sure if Ross'll be Team Principal.... that could be Norbs....

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:35

    ...and andrew benson.

    That well known GMM fan. He likes GMM so much he is providing bull to them

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 20:36

    they wont have a german line up? (am really hanging on your words here because i so want Jenson to stay....)

    I agree with James

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:36

    So do you think Mercedes will take over the team? Or will they let 'Brawn' run it?

    details are in this post sir: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/16/mercedes-set-to-confirm-plans/

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:37

    they wont have a german line up? (am really hanging on your words here because i so want Jenson to stay....)

    They couldn't cash in on his performances this year and they will want to launch their new team with the world champion on board.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:38

    So do you think Mercedes will take over the team? Or will they let 'Brawn' run it?

    details are in this post sir: http://sidepod...set-to-confirm-plans/

    Thanks. But press releases and actions are two very different things...

  • lou16/11/2009 at 20:39

    They couldn't cash in on his performances this year and they will want to launch their new team with the world champion on board.

    this makes me feel slightly better...

    oh and totally off topic.. i've finally seen the pic of Jessica wearing the panda hat at the ROC... lol!!

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:39

    Thanks. But press releases and actions are two very different things...

    I think Merc know that Ross is the Shizzle :)

    Leave him to it

  • Chris16/11/2009 at 20:39

    Evening all

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:40

    oh and totally off topic.. i've finally seen the pic of Jessica wearing the panda hat at the ROC... lol!!

    What panda hat? First I have heard of this

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:40

    oh and totally off topic.. i've finally seen the pic of Jessica wearing the panda hat at the ROC... lol!!

    Sounds ace :)

    Link?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:40

    Evening all

    Hey Chris

  • lou16/11/2009 at 20:41

    What panda hat? First I have heard of this

    link hehehe

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 20:41

    Evening. I have pizza. It is a good day.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:41

    What panda hat? First I have heard of this

    link hehehe

    That is kinda cute :)

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:42

    I think Merc know that Ross is the Shizzle :)

    Ross's commitment to staying seems to have been part of the deal - that doesn't sound like they don't want him

  • Chris16/11/2009 at 20:45

    johnny herbet at silverstone on the gadget show now!

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:46

    I agree with James

    Is James Allen no based in the UK?

    "Nov 16th, 2009 @ 09:29 pm › James Allen"

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:46

    Thanks. But press releases and actions are two very different things...

    maybe. seems cut and dried to me.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:46

    johnny herbet at silverstone on the gadget show now!

    oooh

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:47

    That is kinda cute :)

    Definitely

    Nice hat too

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:48

    Evening. I have pizza. It is a good day.

    Hi Alison, home now?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:49

    Hi Alison, home now?

    if she has then she borrowed rubens jet too

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:49

    Evening. I have pizza. It is a good day.

    Hi Alison, home now?

    I had sirloin in mashed potato with bacon and a tomato-based sauce baked in the oven... proper winter food!

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 20:50

    Hi Alison, home now?

    Not in Cumberland yet until next week. Enjoying my time off work a ridiculous amount.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:52

    Hi Alison, home now?

    Not in Cumberland yet until next week. Enjoying my time off work a ridiculous amount.

    Good stuff Alison.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:52

    Not in Cumberland yet until next week. Enjoying my time off work a ridiculous amount.

    Good for you!

    I thought your trip was work related.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:52

    Good for you!

    I thought your trip was work related.

    spending time with Nick IS hard work ;) :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:53

    By the way, I love wireless keyboards - not only is my desk tidier but I have my feet up and the KB on my lap while watching Motorsport and commenting!

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 20:53

    Evening all. Just had to administer medicine to one of the cats, who had got herself into a fight. Grrr!

    F1 Racing? Stuart C! Maybe...

    I'll be doing Saturday and Sunday on the F1R stand. Not sure about Friday; am booked in at the Red Bulletin for the whole of January so may have to look for a stand-in.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:54

    The Gadget show has postal votes?!?!

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:55

    spending time with Nick IS hard work ;) :P

    :lol:

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:55

    am booked in at the Red Bulletin for the whole of January so may have to look for a stand-in.

    fab news!

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:56

    fab news!

    about the booking... not the stand-in...

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 20:56

    :( Pizza got burned by the stoooopid oven :(

    on the the plus side we are about to watch NEMO

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:56

    The Gadget show has postal votes?!?!

    That's just wrong!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:56

    The Gadget show has postal votes?!?!

    #notMFC

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:56

    :( Pizza got burned by the stoooopid oven :(

    on the the plus side we are about to watch NEMO

    Crispy pizza ROCKS!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:56

    on the the plus side we are about to watch NEMO

    Did he have any choice in the matter?

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 20:57

    spending time with Nick IS hard work ;) :P

    Hahahaha you're telling me....

  • me16/11/2009 at 20:57

    The Gadget show has postal votes?!?!

    That's just wrong!

    that must illegal?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 20:57

    on the the plus side we are about to watch NEMO

    Captain or Finding?

    ...We?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 20:57

    :( Pizza got burned by the stoooopid oven :(

    It was the oven's fault? Do you think that is what Michel would say?

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:58

    The Gadget show has postal votes?!?!

    so people can use their gadget pens

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 20:58

    The Gadget show has postal votes?!?!

    Bizarre. Mind you, during the postal strike I got so nostalgic for normal service that I took to dropping rubber bands on my garden/path/driveway.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 20:58

    Bizarre. Mind you, during the postal strike I got so nostalgic for normal service that I took to dropping rubber bands on my garden/path/driveway.

    :D

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 20:59

    It was the oven's fault? Do you think that is what Michel would say?

    Michel would most certainly be understanding. Also he'd have cooked foir me. No opportunity for me to burn anything!!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 20:59

    Bizarre. Mind you, during the postal strike I got so nostalgic for normal service that I took to dropping rubber bands on my garden/path/driveway.

    Eh?

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 20:59

    Bizarre. Mind you, during the postal strike I got so nostalgic for normal service that I took to dropping rubber bands on my garden/path/driveway.

    I took to dropping mail on my garden/path/driveway

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 21:03

    Captain or Finding?

    Finding. I've never seen it before. I'm skeptical. Watching under protest.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:03

    Finding. I've never seen it before. I'm skeptical. Watching under protest.

    Tis fab, enjoy

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 21:03

    Finding. I've never seen it before. I'm skeptical. Watching under protest.

    Nick is making you watch Finding Nemo?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:03

    Captain or Finding?

    Finding. I've never seen it before. I'm skeptical. Watching under protest.

    It's surprisingly good!

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:04

    Eh?

    Posties wrap up groups of mail in 'em and they get scattered everywhere

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:04

    I took to dropping mail on my garden/path/driveway

    I had to write spam to myself!

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 21:05

    I've never seen it, but I'd like to. Most of these Disney/Pixar/You-Know-Who animated features are really good.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 21:05

    Finding. I've never seen it before. I'm skeptical. Watching under protest.

    I thought you meant the submarine thing not the fish. Is that not for 5 year olds?

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 21:05

    Nick is making you watch Finding Nemo?

    That is pure speculation #gmm

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:05

    I had to write spam to myself!

    :D :D :D

  • Stuart C16/11/2009 at 21:05

    Must dash - need to find out why my Wii's mouth is glowing.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:05

    Posties wrap up groups of mail in 'em and they get scattered everywhere

    we complain now but the huge piles of red rubber bands building up will save us from rising sea levels.

    mark. my. words.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:06

    I thought you meant the submarine thing not the fish. Is that not for 5 year olds?

    Works on both adult and child levels like most Hollywood animation these days

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 21:06

    That is pure speculation #gmm

    That is a non-denial denial

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:06

    Eh?

    Posties wrap up groups of mail in 'em and they get scattered everywhere

    Right, got ya.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:07

    I thought you meant the submarine thing not the fish. Is that not for 5 year olds?

    What? Like "Cars"?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:07

    Right, got ya.

    Danish posties don't or you live on a street with about 4 houses?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:08

    Right, got ya.

    Danish posties don't or you live on a street with about 4 houses?

    No, we live in an apartment building!

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:08

    What? Like "Cars"?

    Not my fave that one. Wall*E is a wonderful piece of film

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:09

    No, we live in an apartment building!

    Me too, your posties must be tidied then

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:09

    Danish posties don't or you live on a street with about 4 houses?

    Mmmmm... danish posties

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:09

    *tidier

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:10

    Mmmmm... danish posties

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:10

    What? Like "Cars"?

    Not my fave that one. Wall*E is a wonderful piece of film

    That and Ratatouille are the only ones I haven't seen.

    BTW - my dad knows someone who works at WETA Digital and they are working on Avatar. They're doing 16 hour days to finish it but they reckon it's going to look amazing!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:11

    No, we live in an apartment building!

    Me too, your posties must be tidied then

    Yeah I must admit I've never seen a rubber band lying around. But then it's Denmark - people don't litter and are generally quite tidy (until they start drinking!)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:11

    Mmmmm... danish posties

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:11

    BTW - my dad knows someone who works at WETA Digital and they are working on Avatar. They're doing 16 hour days to finish it but they reckon it's going to look amazing!

    I really want to see that but am so not keen on this 3D nonsense. I guess I should see one before judging it as a failed gimmick

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:12

    That and Ratatouille are the only ones I haven't seen.

    Also much better than anticipated

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:13

    BTW - my dad knows someone who works at WETA Digital and they are working on Avatar. They're doing 16 hour days to finish it but they reckon it's going to look amazing!

    I really want to see that but am so not keen on this 3D nonsense. I guess I should see one before judging it as a failed gimmick

    Will it be in 3D only? I've never seen a 3D movie before...

    How does someone like my wife see it when she wears glasses anyway?

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 21:14

    Posties wrap up groups of mail in 'em and they get scattered everywhere

    Why do they do that?

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:14

    Will it be in 3D only? I've never seen a 3D movie before...

    The Queen is in 3D on Channel 4 at the moment.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:14

    Will it be in 3D only? I've never seen a 3D movie before...

    The Queen is in 3D on Channel 4 at the moment.

    The Queen? Why? Does it make the action scenes better?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:15

    Will it be in 3D only? I've never seen a 3D movie before...

    At the IMAX, probably

    How does someone like my wife see it when she wears glasses anyway?

    With care not to scratch her own glasses apparently

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:15

    Why do they do that?

    The wrapping up or the scattering everywhere?

    a) Post for the same group of houses are grouped together to make everything easier for them to find.

    b) Laziness

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 21:15

    'Ello

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:16

    'Ello

    Weren't you already here?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:16

    Why do they do that?

    Group blocks of letters together, like in the same building and stuff

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:16

    The Queen? Why? Does it make the action scenes better?

    No idea, it's the coronation. I guess it looks like the crown is going to hit you in the face and she waves the sceptre over your head. I'm not watching it so this is all guesswork.

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 21:16

    Weren't you already here?

    I was, but I left for beer.

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 21:18

    a) Post for the same group of houses are grouped together to make everything easier for them to find.

    Weird.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:18

    a) Post for the same group of houses are grouped together to make everything easier for them to find.

    Weird.

    Why is that weird?

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:18

    No idea, it's the coronation. I guess it looks like the crown is going to hit you in the face and she waves the sceptre over your head. I'm not watching it so this is all guesswork.

    :)

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:18

    The Queen? Why? Does it make the action scenes better?

    Oooh, a London red double-decker bus nearly ran me over. Still no wiser as to why they filmed it in 3D though.

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 21:19

    I don't get this Queen in 3D thing...

    It's not in 3D??

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:19

    It's not in 3D??

    It is now

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:20

    Will it be in 3D only? I've never seen a 3D movie before...

    The last one I saw was Jaws 3D on telly in the 80's

    I'm told things are a little better now but I'm not really interested if it's more 'immersive'. Make a good film in the first place, I'll be immersed

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 21:21

    The last one I saw was Jaws 3D on telly in the 80's

    I'm told things are a little better now but I'm not really interested if it's more 'immersive'. Make a good film in the first place, I'll be immersed

    I seem to remember watching Eastenders in 3D for either Children in need or comic relief many moons ago

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:21

    Evening all. Did everyone miss my scoop last night? I have almost certainly tracked down what Mr C really does for a living. Evidence, look out for Rapids Johnson and all will become clear.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:21

    I seem to remember watching Eastenders in 3D for either Children in need or comic relief many moons ago

    Lord no, sounds horrendous

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:21

    The last one I saw was Jaws 3D on telly in the 80's

    I'm told things are a little better now but I'm not really interested if it's more 'immersive'. Make a good film in the first place, I'll be immersed

    Watched a panto in 3D, not really all that inthralling to be fair.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:22

    Evening all. Did everyone miss my scoop last night? I have almost certainly tracked down what Mr C really does for a living. Evidence, look out for Rapids Johnson and all will become clear.

    LOL

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:22

    The last one I saw was Jaws 3D on telly in the 80's

    I'm told things are a little better now but I'm not really interested if it's more 'immersive'. Make a good film in the first place, I'll be immersed

    so, just watching the trailer (in 2d), and i conclude the bits with real people in look great and the rest... not so great.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:23

    so, just watching the trailer (in 2d), and i conclude the bits with real people in look great and the rest... not so great.

    Are you talking about Avatar?

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:23

    Watched a panto in 3D, not really all that inthralling to be fair.

    Oh yes it was.

  • Kathi16/11/2009 at 21:23

    Why is that weird?

    Seems like a lot of extra work. In Finland and I think in Germany too (never looked inside a postman's bag to be honest) they just put a divider in between groups of mail. Also in Finland all postboxes are on the right side of the road independent of which side of the road you live on (at least in the sidestreets)

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:23

    so, just watching the trailer (in 2d), and i conclude the bits with real people in look great and the rest... not so great.

    Are you talking about Avatar?

    yes.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:23

    Oh yes it was.

    It might have been behind us.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 21:25

    Watched a panto in 3D, not really all that inthralling to be fair.

    Oh yes it was.

    Oh no it wasn't

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:25

    Watched a panto in 3D, not really all that inthralling to be fair.

    "It's behind you" not all it's cracked up to be?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:25

    Oh yes it was.

    It might have been behind us.

    I once saw Frank Bruno in a pantomime - God it was weird!

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:27

    I once saw Frank Bruno in a pantomime - God it was weird!

    It got a bit boring watching a father and son duo I've never heard of doing anything else but that panto.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:27

    so, just watching the trailer (in 2d), and i conclude the bits with real people in look great and the rest... not so great.

    Real people? Thought it was all animated-ish. Will have to check out again

    it's Cameron, therefore - obligatory viewing

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:27

    "It's behind you" not all it's cracked up to be?

    Unfortunately for Schumi, DC didn't believe us

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:28

    Unfortunately for Schumi, DC didn't believe us

    :D

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:28

    It got a bit boring watching a father and son duo I've never heard of doing anything else but that panto.

    Ooooh, looked at this years list. Remember Scooch from Eurovision...

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:29

    I notice Mr C is ignoring my research so I think I'm on to something :)

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:31

    Ooooh, looked at this years list. Remember Scooch from Eurovision...

    3D panto doesn't seem so bad now does it?

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:31

    I notice Mr C is ignoring my research so I think I'm on to something :)

    it required effort. what's the second i have to scrub to?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:31

    Ooooh, looked at this years list. Remember Scooch from Eurovision...

    You sir, need to raise your viewing standards ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:32

    I notice Mr C is ignoring my research so I think I'm on to something :)

    it required effort. what's the second i have to scrub to?

    Exactly... 16 minutes of kids tv!

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:32

    You sir, need to raise your viewing standards ;)

    :)

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:33

    You sir, need to raise your viewing standards ;)

    Junior Eurovision this week...

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:34

    Junior Eurovision this week...

    This country is going to he'll in a handbag and via a phone vote :(

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:35

    This country is going to he'll in a handbag and via a phone vote :(

    I'll let you rest that the most western country involved is Belgium.

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:35

    it required effort. what's the second i have to scrub to?

    2'20"

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:36

    I'll let you rest that the most western country involved is Belgium.

    But it's on TV here and folk will watch it

    Nuff said

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:36

    This country is going to he'll in a handbag and via a phone vote :(

    I'll let you rest that the most western country involved is Belgium.

    Is Denmark in it? They love that crap here and the music sucks!

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:37

    Is Denmark in it? They love that crap here and the music sucks!

    Nah, Sweden is though.

    Things ya shouldn't do, go on the website, now after looking at all the participants, I feel old.

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:37

    Exactly... 16 minutes of kids tv!

    It's the first sketch. Would I make you watch the whole programme?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:38

    2'20"

    :lol: :lol:

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:40

    Exactly... 16 minutes of kids tv!

    It's the first sketch. Would I make you watch the whole programme?

    Fair enough!

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:40

    It's the first sketch. Would I make you watch the whole programme?

    trust me, my panda was much bigger.

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:40

    i think i've caught up with the day's events. now for must comment monday.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:40

    so, just watching the trailer (in 2d), and i conclude the bits with real people in look great and the rest... not so great.

    Real people? Thought it was all animated-ish. Will have to check out again

    it's Cameron, therefore - obligatory viewing

    It looks like a PS3 game with some kind of conservation message underneath. I still need convincing.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 21:41

    2'20"

    PANDA!

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:41

    Real people? Thought it was all animated-ish. Will have to check out again

    it's Cameron, therefore - obligatory viewing


    some woman from lost, and a chat from friends.

    It looks like a PS3 game with some kind of conservation message underneath. I still need convincing.

    agreed.

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 21:42

    i think if caught up with the day's events. now for must comment monday.

    I've done the rounds where I can.

    Distinct lack of comments on F1TP though. I must be doing something wrong, not even had any spam today.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:42

    i think if caught up with the day's events. now for must comment monday.

    Thats what I was going to do tonight, blog.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:42

    It looks like a PS3 game with some kind of conservation message underneath. I still need convincing.

    If it wasn't James Cameron I wouldn't be excited. Now that he's finally over his Titanic obsession, he can carry on being fantastic again

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:43

    Distinct lack of comments on F1TP though. I must be doing something wrong, not even had any spam today.

    will get there shortly.

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 21:44

    will get there shortly.

    Oh no, that came out wrong. It wasn't a plea for comments!

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:44

    some woman from lost, and a chat from friends.

    Michelle Rodriguez & Giovanni Ribisi (who is stellar btw)

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:44

    Michelle Rodriguez & Giovanni Ribisi (who is stellar btw)

    yup. her and him.

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:45

    i think if caught up with the day's events. now for must comment monday.

    I haven't done any reading today as I was too sick earlier. But I don't just reserve Monday for commenting as I have been commenting all week ;)

    Later this week I shall start blogging again too.

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:46

    PANDA!

    See what I mean? He might as well admit it.

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 21:47

    i think if caught up with the day's events. now for must comment monday.

    I should have blogged about Mercedes and Brawn tonight really... I just haven't had the motivation today to do any writing which kinda sucks :(

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 21:48

    I should have blogged about Mercedes and Brawn tonight really... I just haven't had the motivation today to do any writing which kinda sucks :(

    You get days like that....

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:48

    I should have blogged about Mercedes and Brawn tonight really... I just haven't had the motivation today to do any writing which kinda sucks :(

    you still have time..

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:49

    Michelle Rodriguez & Giovanni Ribisi (who is stellar btw)

    yup. her and him.

    :)

    I'm totally gonna be there. In front of a screen the size of 4 F1 motorhomes!

  • Lukeh16/11/2009 at 21:49

    you still have time..

    I'm gonna leave it till tomorrow and head off I think. I'm just too tired and allsorts of annoyances today have worn me out.

    Anyways, night all.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 21:49

    oooh talking of blogging. i posted it reaaaally early this morning but no-one was around...

    www.feederseries.co.uk

    Formula two guide i've written

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 21:49

    Anyways, night all.

    night

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 21:50

    Oookay preliminary opinion, I'm liking the NEEMOO!

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:50

    I should have blogged about Mercedes and Brawn tonight really... I just haven't had the motivation today to do any writing which kinda sucks :(

    Yeah, that happens. You'll be fine in the morning

    (Well, I wasn't when BMW quit, but that was because I also had the flu)

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:50

    Night Lukeh

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:50

    Anyways, night all.

    Night Lukeh.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:50

    Anyways, night all.

    Night sir.

  • lou16/11/2009 at 21:51

    Night Lukeh

    night :)

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:51

    Oookay preliminary opinion, I'm liking the NEEMOO!

    See, it's the biz

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/11/2009 at 21:51

    I'm off too. It's been a weird day. See ya guys!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 21:52

    I'm off too. It's been a weird day. See ya guys!

    byeee

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 21:52

    Night Luke, Night Gavin.

    See you later.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 21:52

    oooh talking of blogging. i posted it reaaaally early this morning but no-one was around...

    I doff my cap with your efforts by the way. I thoroughly enjoy the categories leading up to F1, probably more so in fact.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 21:52

    I'm off too. It's been a weird day. See ya guys!

    See ya mate.

  • Alison16/11/2009 at 21:52

    See, it's the biz

    I wouldn't go that far :P

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 21:53

    I doff my cap with your efforts by the way. I thoroughly enjoy the categories leading up to F1, probably more so in fact.

    ditto. I have no idea why i stick with F1, but i do, club, national and feeder racing is where its at

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:53

    I wouldn't go that far :P

    It picks up

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:53

    I wouldn't go that far :P

    It gets better

    G'night Gavin

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:54

    Oookay preliminary opinion, I'm liking the NEEMOO!

    This film has the highest body count of any Disney animation.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:55

    Anybody mentioned the Indian GP today?

    http://www.jaypeegreens-sportscity.com/masterplan_of_sports_city.html

  • me16/11/2009 at 21:57

    I doff my cap with your efforts by the way. I thoroughly enjoy the categories leading up to F1, probably more so in fact.

    ditto. I have no idea why i stick with F1, but i do, club, national and feeder racing is where its at

    i wish i could understand the appeal you guys see. all i hear are people aiming/wanting/begging to be in f1. it's like no-one wants to be part of what they have, they're just passing through.

    at the mercedes-benz event, all the DTM drivers were "this is the best car... err... well it's not quite f1... we all want to do f1".

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 21:57

    Anybody mentioned the Indian GP today?

    Did yesterday yes.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:57

    This film has the highest body count of any Disney animation.

    I thought that was Mulan?

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:57

    Did yesterday yes.

    Ah, didn't search yesterdays

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 21:58

    Anybody mentioned the Indian GP today?

    http://www.jay...n_of_sports_city.html

    That looks like another overtaking free zone

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 21:58

    I thought that was Mulan?

    If you count all of Nemo's siblings then no.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 21:59

    That looks like another overtaking free zone

    anti clockwise I assume

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 21:59

    If you count all of Nemo's siblings then no.

    "Thousands of Mongols buried alive by the title character" apparently

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:00

    That looks like another overtaking free zone

    Perfect. Why bother with existing track, when you can make more rubbish ones.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:00

    i wish i could understand the appeal you guys see. all i hear are people aiming/wanting/begging to be in f1. it's like no-one wants to be part of what they have, they're just passing through.

    at the mercedes-benz event, all the DTM drivers were "this is the best car... err... well it's not quite f1... we all want to do f1".

    1. can you blame them? f1 is "the pinacle of motorsport" (although i may beg to disagree in hte future)

    2. the racing is SO much better than f1

    3. most of the people are really really nice, really approachable. heck i email one of them and he emailed me back on his blackberry within 10 minutes

    4. they arent dictated by sponsor politics and pr people.

    etc

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 22:00

    i wish i could understand the appeal you guys see. all i hear are people aiming/wanting/begging to be in f1. it's like no-one wants to be part of what they have, they're just passing through.

    Same really.

    I've seen some jnr races supporting other events. Every now and again you see someone who looks like they'd stand out.

    At the BTCC race at Thruxton a couple of years ago both Christodoulo cousins looked good, in that respect it appealing.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:00

    i wish i could understand the appeal you guys see. all i hear are people aiming/wanting/begging to be in f1. it's like no-one wants to be part of what they have, they're just passing through.

    The appeal apart rom the on track action itself is to try to identify who is going somewhere, who couldn't go anywhere if Bill Gates gave him all his money and who is really special

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:00

    i wish i could understand the appeal you guys see. all i hear are people aiming/wanting/begging to be in f1. it's like no-one wants to be part of what they have, they're just passing through.

    I wish I could understand the horse-blinkered approach to those who just watch F1 and nothing else.

    The racing is better as they're actually fighting for their reputations most of the time.

    It's more accessible to the fans and a darn sight cheaper.

    Watching someone's career blossom is often fascinating to watch (been watching Daniel Ricciardo for the past two years).

    Etc etc.

    Seriously, choose a single category for next year and just see how you get on following it.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:01

    1. can you blame them? f1 is "the pinacle of motorsport"

    i don't blame them. i just watch that pinnacle.

  • Lady Snowcat16/11/2009 at 22:01

    Did anyone spot this in the Q&As....

    "Norbert, when will you be able to name your drivers?

    NH: I would rather hope next week, but don't kill me if it [takes] a couple of weeks longer."

    Please form an orderly queue behind me to kill Norbert if it takes A COUPLE OF WEEKS to sort out the drivers.....

    Aghhhhhhh......

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:02

    anti clockwise I assume

    If the silver areas are run offs I would say clockwise

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:02

    i don't blame them. i just watch that pinnacle.

    the biggest problem with f1 is that there isnt enough spaces, and fair enough, you dont want overcrowding etc etc. but the higher you get, the more that money dictates where you go next. there are so many good drivers that dont ever get into f1.but its how it is, and life isnt fair

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:03

    Plus watching several racing categories makes Autosport even better value for money! ;-)

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:03

    Seriously, choose a single category for next year and just see how you get on following it.

    That is a really good idea

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:03

    If the silver areas are run offs I would say clockwise

    That's true. It's an even worse design then.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:04

    Plus watching several racing categories makes Autosport even better value for money! ;-)

    hehehehehehehehehe

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:04

    Seriously, choose a single category for next year and just see how you get on following it.

    i don't have time, nor the inclination really.

    i like le mans, but mostly because it only comes around once a year and doesn't take too much time.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:04

    That's true. It's an even worse design then.

    The layout is awful

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:04

    yeah its clockwise

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:05

    Plus watching several racing categories makes Autosport even better value for money! ;-)

    :)

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 22:05

    Seriously, choose a single category for next year and just see how you get on following it.

    I couldn't get organised enough to watch Franck when he was racing on a regular basis. Franck!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:05

    i like le mans, but mostly because it only comes around once a year and doesn't take too much time.

    and thats where your half right and half wrong. le mans is one event. there is a whole series of them, plus a whole series of american racing. plus this year they've added formula le mans to hte lms series. i am v.excited

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:06

    i like le mans, but mostly because it only comes around once a year and doesn't take too much time.

    Le Mans? One event? Tsk! Tsk! Mr Christine! :-D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:07

    i like le mans, but mostly because it only comes around once a year and doesn't take too much time.

    Le Mans? One event? Tsk! Tsk! Mr Christine! :-D

    *faints*

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:07

    the biggest problem with f1 is that there isnt enough spaces, and fair enough, you dont want overcrowding etc etc. but the higher you get, the more that money dictates where you go next. there are so many good drivers that dont ever get into f1.but its how it is, and life isnt fair

    i guess, comparatively a lot of the racing looks cheap. the formula bmw things just look like kids stuff. you can't look up to them, only laugh at them.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:08

    i guess, comparatively a lot of the racing looks cheap. the formula bmw things just look like kids stuff. you can't look up to them, only laugh at them.

    its because they ARE kids. literally. thats the first series many people get into. its their first car series, they have to learn somewhere

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:08

    The layout is awful

    That turn leading into the hairpin is just a complete waste of space, okay on the scale of hockenheim but at this scale nobody is going to be able to get close at that point as it's too tight - and yet Tilke will be expecting to use the following straight for overtaking.

    worse. layout. yet.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:09

    its because they ARE kids. literally. thats the first series many people get into. its their first car series, they have to learn somewhere

    i see that. but where's the appeal in watching them? the cars look lost on track.

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 22:09

    Seriously, choose a single category for next year and just see how you get on following it.

    I follow F1 religiously, IRL and NASCAR when I can (or if I happen to catch it on) and the BTCC if I get into it that year.

    It's a big ask to keep in touch with it all!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:09

    i see that. but where's the appeal in watching them? the cars look lost on track.

    i dont watch them unless im told to watch a specific race

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:09

    i guess, comparatively a lot of the racing looks cheap. the formula bmw things just look like kids stuff. you can't look up to them, only laugh at them.

    Ah, so you have to love Australians. Here, young drivers aspire to V8 supercars or maybe that F1 thing. *giggle* :D

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:09

    Just done a chunk of work (wow, I understood it!) and you're having my type of convo ;-)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:10

    Just done a chunk of work (wow, I understood it!) and you're having my type of convo ;-)

    i would tell you to shoo. but its totally the convo you'd enjoy

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:10

    i dont watch them unless im told to watch a specific race

    fair enough. but bigger cars aren't that much better. if WSR was any good, they wouldn't give the tickets away for free would they?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:11

    fair enough. but bigger cars aren't that much better. if WSR was any good, they wouldn't give the tickets away for free would they?

    WSR is the event, its a marketing exercise by renault. Renault 3.5 is the biggest renault series.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:12

    fair enough. but bigger cars aren't that much better. if WSR was any good, they wouldn't give the tickets away for free would they?

    Would people ever pay to see the 3rd or 4th tier of racing? I doubt it.

  • Adie16/11/2009 at 22:12

    Right, time for bed. I'm in Glasgow tomorrow, flying up from Southampton at half 8. I'll give you all a wave as I fly over you.

    Night!

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:12

    fair enough. but bigger cars aren't that much better. if WSR was any good, they wouldn't give the tickets away for free would they?

    What, like they do at the Bahrain gp? :-)

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:12

    i see that. but where's the appeal in watching them? the cars look lost on track.

    That depends which track you see them on. The appeal is that they are all giving it 100% all the time and battle for every position because there careers depend on it. There is no-one on cruise and collect and whatever category you choose will have more overtaking than F1

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:12

    i see that. but where's the appeal in watching them? the cars look lost on track.

    I tip my cap to any driver, of any age, who is able to take to the track and work hard at making a go of a career in racing. It's like talent scouting, watching the cream rise to the top, whilst watching some *proper* racing for a change with... with... overtaking [swoons]

  • RG16/11/2009 at 22:12

    Right, time for bed. I'm in Glasgow tomorrow, flying up from Southampton at half 8. I'll give you all a wave as I fly over you.

    Remember, I'm in Newcastle, not Wales. :)

    See ya

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:13

    fair enough. but bigger cars aren't that much better. if WSR was any good, they wouldn't give the tickets away for free would they?

    Marketing by Renault innit? Good at that.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:13

    Bye Adie

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:14

    That depends which track you see them on. The appeal is that they are all giving it 100% all the time and battle for every position because there careers depend on it. There is no-one on cruise and collect and whatever category you choose will have more overtaking than F1

    Bingo! House! Steven wins.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:14

    i wish i could understand the appeal you guys see. all i hear are people aiming/wanting/begging to be in f1. it's like no-one wants to be part of what they have, they're just passing through.

    You get to witness drivers move from being total rookies to accomplished F1-ready racers. I find that really satisfying. There is a notable improvement in form for most drivers which is much harder to see in F1.

    On the way there are some great drives from the likes of di Grassi, Hamilton, etc, etc which F1 fans just don't know about.

    There is also the element of knowing about someone before the specifically-F1 fan does..

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:14

    ...whilst watching some *proper* racing for a change with... with... overtaking [swoons]

    Are we absolutely certain that F1 fans want overtaking?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:14

    Would people ever pay to see the 3rd or 4th tier of racing? I doubt it.

    People pay to see club racing all the time

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:15

    That depends which track you see them on. The appeal is that they are all giving it 100% all the time and battle for every position because there careers depend on it. There is no-one on cruise and collect and whatever category you choose will have more overtaking than F1

    Seems to me, that's a problem with F1, not a good thing about the juniors.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:15

    There is also the element of knowing about someone before the specifically-F1 fan does..

    i caught lewis hamilton half way through his gp2 season, it felt good to see him come to f1, you develop more of a knowledge and a respect for them when they've come from lower

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:15

    Bingo! House! Steven wins.

    you all seem to agreeing on the same thing.

    i have no desire to be a talent scout though?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:16

    i guess, comparatively a lot of the racing looks cheap. the formula bmw things just look like kids stuff. you can't look up to them, only laugh at them.

    FBMW is too low even for me and I'm crazy for this stuff. The lowest I usually go is F3 and then only a few times a year. The exception is my annual BTCC visit (which didn't happen this year) where I try and pay attention to F.Renault 2.0.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:16

    That depends which track you see them on. The appeal is that they are all giving it 100% all the time and battle for every position because there careers depend on it. There is no-one on cruise and collect and whatever category you choose will have more overtaking than F1

    Some of htese guys are doing degrees whilst having a full time racing career, others have it has their full time career, will they make it? probably not, but they'll try as hard as they can and i respect them very much for that

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:17

    fair enough. but bigger cars aren't that much better. if WSR was any good, they wouldn't give the tickets away for free would they?

    I do think there should be a properly promoted effort at a Pan-European series as a destination in itself, the way IRL is, now that F1 is going global.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:17

    i have no desire to be a talent scout though?

    Would you not like to watch racing where you don't need live timing, an iphone app and live commenting to know what is going on?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:17

    That depends which track you see them on. The appeal is that they are all giving it 100% all the time and battle for every position because there careers depend on it. There is no-one on cruise and collect and whatever category you choose will have more overtaking than F1

    Apart from F3, the ultimate aero-dependency series :-)

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:18

    Right, time for bed. I'm in Glasgow tomorrow, flying up from Southampton at half 8. I'll give you all a wave as I fly over you.

    Have fun...

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:18

    Would you not like to watch racing where you don't need live timing, an iphone app and live commenting to know what is going on?

    i LOVE those things.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:18

    i have no desire to be a talent scout though?

    You're not cool enough then. We'll all be smug when Ricciardo/Baguette/Bianchi makes it to F1 :-)

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 22:18

    Would you not like to watch racing where you don't need live timing, an iphone app and live commenting to know what is going on?

    That's half the fun right there!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:18

    Apart from F3, the ultimate aero-dependency series :-)

    FFord, F3, and F1. the only 3 development single seater series in teh world. and F3 and FFord are the closest and have the smallest budgets

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:19

    best not mention this to lou:

    Jenson Button has agreed terms to join McLaren on a £6m-a-year deal and could sign his formal three-year contract to partner Lewis Hamilton in an all-British line-up within the next few days.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/nov/16/jenson-button-joins-mclaren-contract

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:19

    That's half the fun right there!

    thats not proper racing. proper racing is when your glued to hte screen, not the laptop or iphone

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:19

    You get to witness drivers move from being total rookies to accomplished F1-ready racers. I find that really satisfying.

    Just to add that for me it is more about the season-long journey than it is about individual races. There can be a lot of rubbish races but the story coming out of it is interesting in its own way, just like F1.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:19

    You're not cool enough then. We'll all be smug when Ricciardo/Baguette/Bianchi makes it to F1 :-)

    Watch for Wayne Boyd in F3 next season. This season was disappointing but I saw him in FFord last year and the boy is class

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:20

    i caught lewis hamilton half way through his gp2 season, it felt good to see him come to f1, you develop more of a knowledge and a respect for them when they've come from lower

    Agreed on that one, he pulled some great moves there

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:20

    thats not proper racing. proper racing is when your glued to hte screen, not the laptop or iphone

    i would have thought it would be attending the event, getting up close with the cars, not watching on the television?

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:20

    best not mention this to lou:

    Did lukeh photoshop that picture? :D

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:21

    thats not proper racing. proper racing is when your glued to hte screen, not the laptop or iphone

    Wowzers. I thought it was just me who finds commentating/twittering/live timing sometimes just too distracting. There's TOO much information in F1 going on. Sometimes, less really is more.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:21

    i would have thought it would be attending the event, getting up close with the cars, not watching on the television?

    nope, watching on tv is still awesome.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:21

    Would you not like to watch racing where you don't need live timing, an iphone app and live commenting to know what is going on?

    Can we keep the commenting?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:21

    Jenson Button has agreed terms to join McLaren on a £6m-a-year deal and could sign his formal three-year contract to partner Lewis Hamilton in an all-British line-up within the next few days.

    I would've loved to see Kimi on form at McLaren

    Say it ain't so

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:21

    There's TOO much information in F1 going on.

    strongly disagree: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/15/things-i-learnt-from-watching-franck/

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:21

    best not mention this to lou:

    Jenson Button has agreed terms to join McLaren on a £6m-a-year deal and could sign his formal three-year contract to partner Lewis Hamilton in an all-British line-up within the next few days.

    http://www.gua...oins-mclaren-contract

    OMG!!! Alan Henry is very credible but I still struggle to believe this.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:21

    nope, watching on tv is still awesome.

    why?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:22

    Wowzers. I thought it was just me who finds commentating/twittering/live timing sometimes just too distracting. There's TOO much information in F1 going on. Sometimes, less really is more.

    i much prefer to watch 2 cars and judge the distance at the end of hte lap rather than sectors. and if there are cars racing, they will overtake. not so much in f1

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:22

    Watch for Wayne Boyd in F3 next season. This season was disappointing but I saw him in FFord last year and the boy is class

    I have his autograph somewhere from Oulton Park this year!

  • Chris16/11/2009 at 22:22

    Jenson Button has agreed terms to join McLaren on a £6m-a-year deal and could sign his formal three-year contract to partner Lewis Hamilton in an all-British line-up within the next few days.

    Still not believing it until we get real proof. Newspapers like the guardian are wrong on a daily basis

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:22

    OMG!!! Alan Henry is very credible but I still struggle to believe this.

    i know. and might make benson correct, which is extra annoying.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:22

    strongly disagree: http://sidepod...from-watching-franck/

    Yeah but you hate print as well. Just admit it, your antithesis of me!

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:23

    why?

    same as f1, if your at the track you get the action but dont see all hte racing, if your watching on tv, you stay warm and can see it all!

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:23

    Wowzers. I thought it was just me who finds commentating/twittering/live timing sometimes just too distracting. There's TOO much information in F1 going on. Sometimes, less really is more.

    I'm going to have a complete rethink of how I watch F1 next year. This year I was tweeting, reading commnets, noting things for the blog, so much that I lost the thread of the race. Not doing that again.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:23

    same as f1, if your at the track you get the action but dont see all hte racing, if your watching on tv, you stay warm and can see it all!

    and live timing lets you understand even more. i don't get why you're drawing the line at TV?

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:23

    i know. and might make benson correct, which is extra annoying.

    If this is all true - I think Mclaren are coming out of all this well.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:23

    Can we keep the commenting?

    Absolutely. My point is that in the junior championships you can by and large see what is going on without someone calculating fuel loads for a driver who has not looked competitive for the race so far

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:24

    If this is all true - I think Mclaren are coming out of all this well.

    and jenson has royally flushed his career down the loo.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:24

    and live timing lets you understand even more. i don't get why you're drawing the line at TV?

    what? im not. i just prefer to keep my full attention on the racing not my phone/live timing. its just pure racing

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:25

    and jenson has royally flushed his career down the loo.

    he's never been very good at this team change malarkey

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:25

    OMG!!! Alan Henry is very credible but I still struggle to believe this.

    i know. and might make benson correct, which is extra annoying.

    Joe hasn't called it yet, neither has Autosport or James Allen

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:25

    Absolutely. My point is that in the junior championships you can by and large see what is going on without someone calculating fuel loads for a driver who has not looked competitive for the race so far

    bingo

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:25

    and jenson has royally flushed his career down the loo.

    also, that would mean lewis has the number #2 on his car again... right?

  • RG16/11/2009 at 22:25

    Quick plug, horrendously biased, but:

    http://onetimoglock.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/throwing-spanners-in-the-works/

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 22:25

    Still not believing it until we get real proof. Newspapers like the guardian are wrong on a daily basis

    Telegraph have the story too but are sitting on the fence.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:25

    what? im not. i just prefer to keep my full attention on the racing not my phone/live timing. its just pure racing

    To be fair, if they put the proper info on the screen you don't need to look away.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:25

    what? im not. i just prefer to keep my full attention on the racing not my phone/live timing. its just pure racing

    it's not pure racing. it's watching it on the telly.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:25

    also, that would mean lewis has the number #2 on his car again... right?

    haha. love it

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:26

    and jenson has royally flushed his career down the loo.

    Actually (and I will make enemies here) I think Jenson was just lucky to be where he was. I dont think he's in the top 4 drivers. He took his chance when he had it.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:26

    I'm going to have a complete rethink of how I watch F1 next year. This year I was tweeting, reading commnets, noting things for the blog, so much that I lost the thread of the race. Not doing that again.

    It was another reason why I gave up The Red Bullog. I spent the races looking at the live timings like I was in the Stock Exchange or something, and lost all enjoyment from it all. Spent the last two races just watching the racing.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:26

    it's not pure racing. it's watching it on the telly.

    pure racing dosent mean you have to be there

  • lou16/11/2009 at 22:26

    best not mention this to lou:

    Jenson Button has agreed terms to join McLaren on a £6m-a-year deal and could sign his formal three-year contract to partner Lewis Hamilton in an all-British line-up within the next few days.

    http://www.gua...oins-mclaren-contract

    i may burst into tears.... *struggles not to swear on a family friendly site*.

    ......

    *tries to remain calm and wait for official confirmation*

    ..... this reminds me of last year... i hate the off season :(

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:26

    i know. and might make benson correct, which is extra annoying.

    Don't give up, Mercedes might sign Glock or Sutil as their second German driver

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:27

    it's not pure racing. it's watching it on the telly.

    Apparently we have differing definitions of 'pure racing'.

    For me, it is when the on-track action is so good that you can't take your eyes off the screen to do any commenting or anything

  • RG16/11/2009 at 22:27

    Actually (and I will make enemies here) I think Jenson was just lucky to be where he was. I dont think he's in the top 4 drivers. He took his chance when he had it.

    Totally agree with you, Brawn built a hell of a car and he took the opportunity at the start of the season brilliantly.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:27

    pure racing dosent mean you have to be there

    i'm lost as to why tv is acceptable and iphone isn't, but i'll concede you have your reasons.

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 22:27

    ..... this reminds me of last year... i hate the off season :(

    Poor off-season. Gets the blame for everything.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:27

    he's never been very good at this team change malarkey

    He will probably end up paying McLaren to go back to Brawn.

    The big question if this is true is what happens to Kimi?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:27

    also, that would mean lewis has the number #2 on his car again... right?

    Yes

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:27

    i'm lost as to why tv is acceptable and iphone isn't, but i'll concede you have your reasons.

    Because the iphone is tiny, the TV is big?

  • lou16/11/2009 at 22:28

    Poor off-season. Gets the blame for everything.

    to be fair it's not exactly been kind to me these last few years!!

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:28

    The big question if this is true is what happens to Kimi?

    Hanging out with Ben & Jerry

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:28

    i'm lost as to why tv is acceptable and iphone isn't, but i'll concede you have your reasons.

    its not not acceptable. but for me, i hate having all that extra stuff, i just want the racing, a split time each lap, and 2 guys going at it like their lives depend on it.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:28

    The big question if this is true is what happens to Kimi?

    Fiat Punto?

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:28

    also, that would mean lewis has the number #2 on his car again... right?

    Yes

    he'll be the number #2 driver in the #2 car. i... might... cry... too!

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 22:28

    He will probably end up paying McLaren to go back to Brawn.

    :D

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:28

    i'm lost as to why tv is acceptable and iphone isn't, but i'll concede you have your reasons.

    its not not acceptable. but for me, i hate having all that extra stuff, i just want the racing, a split time each lap, and 2 guys going at it like their lives depend on it.

    also, you are all #mfc and i am really not

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:28

    Actually (and I will make enemies here) I think Jenson was just lucky to be where he was. I dont think he's in the top 4 drivers. He took his chance when he had it.

    I don't think he is a great driver. I think he will struggle with Lewis

  • Christine16/11/2009 at 22:28

    to be fair it's not exactly been kind to me these last few years!!

    I'd suggest it was more like Honda not being kind to you.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:29

    he'll be the number #2 driver in the #2 car. i... might... cry... too!

    I disagree

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:29

    also, you are all #mfc and i am really not

    even at the track i need kanagroo tv and live comments.

  • lou16/11/2009 at 22:29

    I'd suggest it was more like Honda not being kind to you.

    this is all honda's fault! stupid honda.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:29

    even at the track i need kanagroo tv and live comments.

    exactly!

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:29

    he'll be the number #2 driver in the #2 car. i... might... cry... too!

    I disagree

    i know what you mean... but i know he'll claim it none the less.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:30

    Don't give up, Mercedes might sign Glock or Sutil as their second German driver

    If they sign Glock that could open up the Renault seat for Franck

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 22:30

    even at the track i need kanagroo tv and live comments.

    Live timing is essential. I hate watching a recording.

  • RG16/11/2009 at 22:30

    Poor off-season. Gets the blame for everything.

    One thing BMW did right, announced it in the middle of August. Get a unknown buyer and wait.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:30

    Live timing is essential. I hate watching a recording.

    at the beginning of the season i used to have all the windows up, but now i just watch it on its own. its great

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:31

    i know what you mean... but i know he'll claim it none the less.

    Why would Lewis claim to be the #2 driver? Surely he'd proclaim to be the better (and try to prove it) if not equal to Jenson

  • RG16/11/2009 at 22:31

    If they sign Glock that could open up the Renault seat for Franck

    And that makes everyone happy.

    Oh lou, err Button can stay at Brawn, Glock to McLaren.

    No, that makes Amy not happy as Raikkonen can go there.

    Glock to Renault, and umm, Montagny to Manor. Sorted.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:31

    i'm lost as to why tv is acceptable and iphone isn't, but i'll concede you have your reasons.

    What I said is that in the junior categories you do not need an iphone app etc. I am not saying it is bad simply that F1 is so complicated that you often can't work out who is where until the final pit stop

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:31

    at the beginning of the season i used to have all the windows up, but now i just watch it on its own. its great

    that doesn't appeal in the slightest. but at least i have a better understanding of why you like the smaller race categories. cheers.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:32

    What I said is that in the junior categories you do not need an iphone app etc. I am not saying it is bad simply that F1 is so complicated that you often can't work out who is where until the final pit stop

    Well that should change next year.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:32

    Why would Lewis claim to be the #2 driver? Surely he'd proclaim to be the better (and try to prove it) if not equal to Jenson

    i just think he's addicted to the phrase. it's like his own personal "for sure".

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:32

    this is all honda's fault! stupid honda.

    Actually, it's the financiers' fault

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:32

    to be fair it's not exactly been kind to me these last few years!!

    Last season Jenson ended up in a championship winning car and if this is true then next season he is going to be in the car most people expect to be the best

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:33

    What I said is that in the junior categories you do not need an iphone app etc. I am not saying it is bad simply that F1 is so complicated that you often can't work out who is where until the final pit stop

    the iphone tells me where on the track everyone is. how does complexity make a difference? i just like information.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:33

    that doesn't appeal in the slightest. but at least i have a better understanding of why you like the smaller race categories. cheers.

    its not just 'smaller' race categories. its pretty much everything apart from f1

  • lou16/11/2009 at 22:33

    Last season Jenson ended up in a championship winning car and if this is true then next season he is going to be in the car most people expect to be the best

    i honestly don't think he'll even get the chance to challenge for the championship if he is at Mclaren next year, race winning car or not.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:33

    i just think he's addicted to the phrase. it's like his own personal "for sure".

    Are we still talking about Lewis? I really don't see that

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:33

    its not just 'smaller' race categories. its pretty much everything apart from f1

    you don't follow nascar do you? cause if you did, that would be v.cool.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:34

    Are we still talking about Lewis? I really don't see that

    he didn't have the #2 on his car in '09.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:34

    i honestly don't think he'll even get the chance to challenge for the championship if he is at Mclaren next year, race winning car or not.

    Oh that's a load of tosh. Mclaren always support both drivers. If he can beat Hamilton, he will.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:34

    i honestly don't think he'll even get the chance to challenge for the championship if he is at Mclaren next year, race winning car or not.

    seconded.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:35

    he didn't have the #2 on his car in '09.

    Yeah, look how that worked out for him ;-)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:35

    i honestly don't think he'll even get the chance to challenge for the championship if he is at Mclaren next year, race winning car or not.

    thats because you all hate lewis :P

    its a different team, if he's good, he'll get team respect. its not going to be a ham vs alonso situ again

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 22:35

    he didn't have the #2 on his car in '09.

    Of course not, he was world champion.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:35

    Oh that's a load of tosh. Mclaren always support both drivers. If he can beat Hamilton, he will.

    i disagree. the team is moulded around lewis.

    that's not a complaint, that's just the way it is.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:35

    he didn't have the #2 on his car in '09.

    Of course not, he was world champion.

    Yeah, I'm lost now :)

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:35

    Oh that's a load of tosh. Mclaren always support both drivers. If he can beat Hamilton, he will.

    Tell that to David and Heikki

  • RG16/11/2009 at 22:35

    Oh that's a load of tosh. Mclaren always support both drivers. If he can beat Hamilton, he will.

    Agreeing with paul again, there will be no bias in that team. If he's quick enough, McLaren will support him.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:35

    thats because you all hate lewis :P

    i don't hate him.

    its a different team, if he's good, he'll get team respect. its not going to be a ham vs alonso situ again

    it's not very different at all is it?

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 22:35

    Oh that's a load of tosh. Mclaren always support both drivers. If he can beat Hamilton, he will.

    Except the ones called Fernando...

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:35

    i disagree. the team is moulded around lewis.

    its the same whatever team he'd go too. just how alonso will find ferrari is massas team

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:36

    Oh that's a load of tosh. Mclaren always support both drivers. If he can beat Hamilton, he will.

    Tell that to David and Heikki

    :D :D

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:36

    the iphone tells me where on the track everyone is. how does complexity make a difference? i just like information.

    The difference is that in no pit stop racing if someone is in 9th place the only way he is going to appear at the front is if he passes the others. In F1 he can be 20 seconds behind and everyone else makes a pit stop so you need a lot more info to understand what is happening

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:36

    Tell that to David and Heikki

    Neither we faster than their team mates though

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:36

    i disagree. the team is moulded around lewis.

    I see no evidence that Mclaren favor one driver, or would harm the other driver. Why would they?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:36

    Neither we faster than their team mates though

    because they weren't supported by the team

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:37

    it's not very different at all is it?

    Alonso didn't get on in that team because he expected lewis to just get out of his way.

    If Jenson goes there then he knows wahts in store

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:37

    Except the ones called Fernando...

    Pah, if you believe his point of view.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:37

    its the same whatever team he'd go too. just how alonso will find ferrari is massas team

    Alonso will embarrass Massa if the car works for him

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:37

    I see no evidence that Mclaren favor one driver, or would harm the other driver. Why would they?

    Go ask Coulthard that.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:37

    I see no evidence that Mclaren favor one driver, or would harm the other driver. Why would they?

    mclaren have always had a number one and a number two driver. as far back as i remember. just the way they roll.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:37

    Tell that to David and Heikki

    Huh? Two drivers who were never on the pace of their team mates?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:37

    i disagree. the team is moulded around lewis.

    It was moulded round Prost till Senna unmoulded it.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:38

    because they weren't supported by the team

    And had less talent IMHO

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:38

    mclaren have always had a number one and a number two driver. as far back as i remember. just the way they roll.

    Any time they've tried otherwise has ended badly.

    See Senna/Prost and Hamilton/Alonso.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:38

    It was moulded round Prost till Senna unmoulded it.

    ...and they are fickle. either way. still a #1 and a #2. they just swapped positions.

  • lou16/11/2009 at 22:38

    Oh that's a load of tosh. Mclaren always support both drivers. If he can beat Hamilton, he will.

    I disagree.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:39

    ...and they are fickle. either way. still a #1 and a #2. they just swapped positions.

    thats the same with every team though, even if its only in a little way

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:39

    And had less talent IMHO

    A bit, yeah. I do think Heikki got stamped on before he could bed in at the team. I also think David was better than his results show.. maybe not a lot though.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:39

    I'm not saying they won't prefer Lewis to be faster, just DC & Heikki weren't as naturally quick as their colleagues

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 22:39

    Perhaps Jenson wants to be the next Rubens.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:39

    I disagree.

    i disagree with that

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:39

    mclaren have always had a number one and a number two driver. as far back as i remember. just the way they roll.

    That's not true. As soon as a number one establishes himself he gets the backing but he has to establish himself. Alonso couldn't so he lost out

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:40

    That's not true. As soon as a number one establishes himself he gets the backing but he has to establish himself. Alonso couldn't so he lost out

    exactly. he expected lewis bow down.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:40

    A bit, yeah. I do think Heikki got stamped on before he could bed in at the team. I also think David was better than his results show.. maybe not a lot though.

    DC wasn't aggressive enough for me

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:40

    Perhaps Jenson wants to be the next Rubens.

    in 2010:

    - rubens will be the number one driver

    - jenson will be the number two driver

    didn't see that one coming.

  • lou16/11/2009 at 22:40

    thats because you all hate lewis :P

    i don't hate him. i dislike his personality, he's a good driver. It's Mclaren's bias towards Lewis i don't like.

    If Jenson gets a choice he should stay put, in the team that is moulded around him.. that he helped develop..

    its a different team, if he's good, he'll get team respect. its not going to be a ham vs alonso situ again

    it wont be the Ham vs Alonso situ again because Jenson isn't Alonso, and wouldn't act out of line like that i shouldn't have thought.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:40

    That's not true. As soon as a number one establishes himself he gets the backing but he has to establish himself. Alonso couldn't so he lost out

    Yes, exactly. Show me a championship winning team where this has not happened. If Jenson is better, he'll get the support, just as he did at Brawn.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:41

    Perhaps Jenson wants to be the next Rubens.

    in 2010:

    - rubens will be the number one driver

    - jenson will be the number two driver

    didn't see that one coming.

    Jenson will be ahead though

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 22:41

    didn't see that one coming.

    :D :D Somehow that's karmic.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:41

    DC wasn't aggressive enough for me

    he wasn't fast enough

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:41

    DC wasn't aggressive enough for me

    He was a lover, not a fighter. Literally.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:41

    Jenson will be ahead though

    also true.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:42

    DC wasn't aggressive enough for me

    he wasn't fast enough

    Also true

  • James16/11/2009 at 22:42

    Jenson will be ahead though

    in the garage yes. his car will be before Lewis'

  • lou16/11/2009 at 22:42

    thats the same with every team though, even if its only in a little way

    Brawn managed to keep pretty balanced this year, no matter what people say the fuel loads are all there, each driver was given very similar strategies, and they worked well as a team, they just worked.. :(

  • RG16/11/2009 at 22:42

    Reet, bed, much love this discussion but I have to go, fun that there is about half the grid aiming for three seats. Great.

    And check the blog : http://onetimoglock.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/throwing-spanners-in-the-works/

    lotsa love.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 22:42

    The difference is that in no pit stop racing if someone is in 9th place the only way he is going to appear at the front is if he passes the others. In F1 he can be 20 seconds behind and everyone else makes a pit stop so you need a lot more info to understand what is happening

    I don't really mind that too much. I prefer the IRL strategies because they seem a bit more clear cut. I like the variety in racing though. Sometimes I want a strategy fight, sometimes I just want some straight out hard racing.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:43

    Jenson will be ahead though

    also true.

    He does seem to chase the money though, he won't shake that reputation if this deal is true

  • lou16/11/2009 at 22:43

    Perhaps Jenson wants to be the next Rubens.

    in 2010:

    - rubens will be the number one driver

    - jenson will be the number two driver

    didn't see that one coming.

    are you trying to make me cry? :'(

  • littlepurplegoth16/11/2009 at 22:43

    Then of course there is the Lewis-still-goes-a-bit-OTT factor, whereas Jenson doesn't seem to, um, push it unless he knows he can...

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:43

    Brawn managed to keep pretty balanced this year, no matter what people say the fuel loads are all there, each driver was given very similar strategies, and they worked well as a team, they just worked.. :(

    yep, but rubens was number 2, he didnt get treated differently, but he was

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:43

    Jenson will be ahead though

    in the garage yes. his car will be before Lewis'

    ahead of rubens, who's driving the williams/cossie.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:43

    He does seem to chase the money though, he won't shake that reputation if this deal is true

    very, very true.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:43

    Then of course there is the Lewis-still-goes-a-bit-OTT factor, whereas Jenson doesn't seem to, um, push it unless he knows he can...

    but i love that about lewis

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:43

    are you trying to make me cry? :'(

    course not. sorry.

  • James16/11/2009 at 22:44

    ahead of rubens, who's driving the williams/cossie.

    :)

    Either way Jenson is driving a silver mercedes powered car next year.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:44

    yep, but rubens was number 2, he didnt get treated differently, but he was

    The blah, blah blah in his head distracted him

    #sorrylukeh

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:44

    If Jenson gets a choice he should stay put, in the team that is moulded around him.. that he helped develop..

    Rosberg is Mercedes favoured child for next year, don't think for a moment that Jenson would be the team's #1. It might not show next year but a year down the line?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:44

    yep, but rubens was number 2, he didnt get treated differently, but he was

    The blah, blah blah in his head distracted him

    #sorrylukeh

    he just wasnt as good. simple

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:45

    Either way Jenson is driving a silver mercedes powered car next year.

    but not the works mercedes.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:45

    but i love that about lewis

    Agreed

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:45

    Rosberg is Mercedes favoured child for next year,

    and why is that? The hair?!

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:45

    but not the works mercedes.

    No, the fast one ;-)

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:45

    and why is that? The hair?!

    "because he's worth it" :D

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:46

    Rosberg is Mercedes favoured child for next year, don't think for a moment that Jenson would be the team's #1. It might not show next year but a year down the line?

    i don't think rosberg is good enough to beat jenson.

    not consistently.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:46

    but not the works mercedes.

    No, the fast one ;-)

    works renault vs red bull again

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:46

    but not the works mercedes.

    No, the fast one ;-)

    I hope so

  • James16/11/2009 at 22:46

    "because he's worth it" :D

    the tag line for Mercedes F1.

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:47

    and why is that? The hair?!

    PR friendly? Check.

    German? Check.

    Not Vettel? Check.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:47

    i don't think rosberg is good enough to beat jenson.

    Weird isn't it? Surely Mercedes want a top-line race winner?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:48

    PR friendly? Check.

    German? Check.

    Not Vettel? Check.

    James Allen thinks Mercedes are gunning for Vettel once his Red Bull term is up

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:48

    Weird isn't it? Surely Mercedes want a top-line race winner?

    That's what I don't get, Kimi could still sign though

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:48

    PR friendly? Check.

    German? Check.

    Not Vettel? Check.

    doesn't talk like Elmer Fudd? check.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:48

    i think jenson's best hope, if he signs for mclaren, is that lewis bails to mercedes gp in 2011. then he may have the team to himself.

  • James16/11/2009 at 22:48

    James Allen thinks Mercedes are gunning for Vettel once his Red Bull term is up

    Mercedes will want three cars at some point. that will please Ferrari.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:48

    i don't think rosberg is good enough to beat jenson.

    Would you have said that at the end of last year?

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:49

    James Allen thinks Mercedes are gunning for Vettel once his Red Bull term is up

    i reckon vettel and hamilton. you?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:49

    Mercedes will want three cars at some point. that will please Ferrari.

    Why should they?

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:49

    James Allen thinks Mercedes are gunning for Vettel once his Red Bull term is up

    And he's right. They were very eager to supply Red Bull with engines to have some link with him right now. McLaren veoted it, Red Bull went ahead and continued with Renault.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:49

    i reckon vettel and hamilton. you?

    That'd be great

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:49

    i reckon vettel and hamilton. you?

    and thats better than jenson hammy how?

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:49

    Would you have said that at the end of last year?

    he's made way to many daft mistakes this year. he's gotten worse as the car got better.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:49

    i reckon vettel and hamilton. you?

    Wouldn't anyone want that line up?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:49

    i reckon vettel and hamilton. you?

    That'd be great

    At McLaren :)

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:50

    and thats better than jenson hammy how?

    jenson will be at mclaren and will have a years experience with the team.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:50

    and thats better than jenson hammy how?

    Vettel is faster and will improve

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:50

    i reckon vettel and hamilton. you?

    McLaren had approached Vettel between the '07 and '08 seasons to try and poach him, but Mateschitz was having none of it.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:50

    And he's right. They were very eager to supply Red Bull with engines to have some link with him right now. McLaren veoted it, Red Bull went ahead and continued with Renault.

    is it too late to change?

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:50

    Wouldn't anyone want that line up?

    No, I'd want Alonso and Hamilton. Err...

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:51

    And he's right. They were very eager to supply Red Bull with engines to have some link with him right now. McLaren veoted it, Red Bull went ahead and continued with Renault.

    Did McLaren veto it? Assumed the FIA did.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:51

    No, I'd want Alonso and Hamilton. Err...

    :D

  • paul16/11/2009 at 22:52

    Did McLaren veto it? Assumed the FIA did.

    No, I think the FIA approved it. Mclaren had the veto.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:52

    Did McLaren veto it? Assumed the FIA did.

    I'd go with McLaren, the FIA probably didn't get an official query

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:52

    Did McLaren veto it? Assumed the FIA did.

    McLaren did, was part of the terms of their agreement with Mercedes-Benz.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:52

    is it too late to change?

    No. Red Bull said last week they would announce their engine soon. The only reason I can see for that is that they were waiting for Mercedes to get out of the McLaren deal

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:53

    No, I think the FIA approved it. Mclaren had the veto.

    McLaren dropped the ball cos they didn't think Brawn would be competitive this year

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:53

    Did McLaren veto it? Assumed the FIA did.

    McLaren vetoed it

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:54

    is it too late to change?

    Newey doesn't strike me as the sort of person who wants to compromise his chassis designs this late in the day - so I doubt doing 'a Brawn' would be on the cards.

    Plus whilst the Renault engine lacks a bit of peak power, is good on fuel consumption and comes with several financial benefits.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:54

    Plus whilst the Renault engine lacks a bit of peak power, is good on fuel consumption and comes with several financial benefits.

    Twingos all round?

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 22:55

    Plus whilst the Renault engine lacks a bit of peak power, is good on fuel consumption and comes with several financial benefits.

    Plus with no refuelling, consumption will become a more significant factor.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 22:55

    Plus whilst the Renault engine lacks a bit of peak power, is good on fuel consumption and comes with several financial benefits.

    I think he wants the Merc because it needs less cooling therefore he can pacage it more tightly

  • Dank16/11/2009 at 22:55

    No. Red Bull said last week they would announce their engine soon. The only reason I can see for that is that they were waiting for Mercedes to get out of the McLaren deal

    From what I can gather, a definite decision was made to run with Renault some 4-6 weeks ago. Might also indicate why all the team were name dropping them in just about every interview and press release in Brazil and Abu Dhabi.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:56

    I'd go with McLaren, the FIA probably didn't get an official query

    Since when does that stop them giving an unofficial veto? :-)

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:57

    Since when does that stop them giving an unofficial veto? :-)

    It doesn't, you're right

    FIA would've been happy is my guess, McLaren a lot less

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:57

    Plus with no refuelling, consumption will become a more significant factor.

    But they're talking about equalising power - the end result could well be that the Mercedes ends up the least thirsty.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:59

    But they're talking about equalising power - the end result could well be that the Mercedes ends up the least thirsty.

    maybe by taking renault, they've got a better chance of keeping seb?

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 22:59

    FIA would've been happy is my guess, McLaren a lot less

    I'm not sure they would - that's a lot of engines leaving if Mercedes pulled out. It's a different situation now of course and Mercedes have made a big commitment.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 22:59

    But they're talking about equalising power - the end result could well be that the Mercedes ends up the least thirsty.

    Power or power/torque bands?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 22:59

    Dear FIA

    Bring Back Tyre War

    Bring Back Engine Development

    Bring Back Refuelling

    That is all.

  • me16/11/2009 at 22:59

    maybe by taking renault, they've got a better chance of keeping seb?

    or rather, they're less likely to lose him.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:00

    Dear FIA

    Bring Back Tyre War

    Bring Back Engine Development

    Bring Back Refuelling

    That is all.

    No, find a way to overtake slower cars

    Job done

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 23:00

    Power or power/torque bands?

    Not sure even the FIA know the answer to that!

  • paul16/11/2009 at 23:01

    That is all.

    all? You are easily pleased ;-)

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:01

    Power or power/torque bands?

    Not sure even the FIA know the answer to that!

    Or the question :D

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:01

    No, find a way to overtake slower cars

    Job done

    oo oo oo I know the answer, Steven told me.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:01

    all? You are easily pleased ;-)

    :)

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 23:02

    oo oo oo I know the answer, Steven told me.

    Machine guns mounted on the front?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:02

    oo oo oo I know the answer, Steven told me.

    I was happiest in 05 and 06.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:02

    oo oo oo I know the answer, Steven told me.

    Paul di Resta?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:03

    oo oo oo I know the answer, Steven told me.

    I also told Lou 3 hours ago that Button was staying at Brawn so what do I know?

  • paul16/11/2009 at 23:03

    so what do I know?

    Space shuttle launch dates?

  • lou16/11/2009 at 23:03

    I also told Lou 3 hours ago that Button was staying at Brawn so what do I know?

    but nothing is confirmed 100% yet.... :( there is still hope.... please let there be hope...

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 23:04

    No. Red Bull said last week they would announce their engine soon.

    Doesn't that mean nobody has vetoed it?

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:04

    I also told Lou 3 hours ago that Button was staying at Brawn so what do I know?

    you could still be right.

    going to be an agonising couple of days if no announcements are made.

  • paul16/11/2009 at 23:04

    but nothing is confirmed 100% yet.... :( there is still hope.... please let there be hope...

    Are you a Jenson fan or a Honda/Brawn fan?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:04

    The doohickey looks very odd through 3D glasses

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 23:04

    having read joe's comments relating to considering no further blogging. i conclude the simple answer is micropayments.

    stupid people won't pay because they're are too dumb to understand the benefits and if you eradicate the stupid people, the problem is solved. {Comment #201}

    Unfortunately most intelligent people end up too baffled by the system to be able to get in, or are so demotivated by trying to get in for the sake of an item of information that they give up, if micropayment systems I've seen previously are anything to go by. I find Paypal a mess and that's the simplest micropayment system I've yet encountered.

    There has to be a reasonable way of doing it because in the last few years, some African countries have developed a mobile phone micropayment culture amongst their middle classes, but it doesn't seem to have translated into Western internet micropayment systems yet.

  • lou16/11/2009 at 23:05

    Are you a Jenson fan or a Honda/Brawn fan?

    both...

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:05

    The doohickey looks very odd through 3D glasses

    ?!?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:05

    Doesn't that mean nobody has vetoed it?

    No-one vetoed it for next season. McLaren vetoed it for this season

  • paul16/11/2009 at 23:06

    both...

    Oh, ok.

    I was going to say that you may be pleasantly surprised if Jenson does move.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:06

    but nothing is confirmed 100% yet.... :( there is still hope.... please let there be hope...

    There is hope but Alan Henry is not GMM. He is seriously credible like Joe or Stuart

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 23:07

    I also told Lou 3 hours ago that Button was staying at Brawn so what do I know?

    Have you read the actual article?

    "...sources close to McLaren hinted: I think Jenson liked what he saw and they liked him too." does not equal "Jenson Button agrees to join McLaren on three-year, £6m-a-year deal"

  • lou16/11/2009 at 23:07

    I was going to say that you may be pleasantly surprised if Jenson does move.

    I'll support Jenson whatever happens.. but i don't want him to leave Brawn/Mercedes/the brackley team.. i've supported them for ages now... will be odd not to support them...

  • paul16/11/2009 at 23:07

    I'll support Jenson whatever happens.. but i don't want him to leave Brawn/Mercedes/the brackley team.. i've supported them for ages now... will be odd not to support them...

    Yep, I know that feeling.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:07

    ?!?

    Channel 4 is doing 3D stuff hence 3D glasses. I switched from TV to doohickey and forgot I had them on

  • lou16/11/2009 at 23:07

    There is hope but Alan Henry is not GMM. He is seriously credible like Joe or Stuart

    you're meant to say 'yes lou there is still hope, keep you chin up and get through the week....'

    :(

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 23:08

    I'll support Jenson whatever happens.. but i don't want him to leave Brawn/Mercedes/the brackley team.. i've supported them for ages now... will be odd not to support them...

    All of the team personnel will still be there, it'll just have another name.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:08

    I'll support Jenson whatever happens.. but i don't want him to leave Brawn/Mercedes/the brackley team.. i've supported them for ages now... will be odd not to support them...

    Jenson for the WDC, Brackley F1 for the constructors?

  • lou16/11/2009 at 23:08

    All of the team personnel will still be there, it'll just have another name.

    yes, but Jenson wont be...

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:08

    Channel 4 is doing 3D stuff hence 3D glasses. I switched from TV to doohickey and forgot I had them on

    :D:D

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:08

    I also told Lou 3 hours ago that Button was staying at Brawn so what do I know?

    The overtaking answer = banning aero.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:09

    The overtaking answer = banning aero.

    Even the mint ones?

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:09

    The overtaking answer = banning aero.

    You want Formula 1 Ford don't you? ;)

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:09

    you're meant to say 'yes lou there is still hope, keep you chin up and get through the week....'

    :(

    There is hope

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:09

    Have you read the actual article?

    "...sources close to McLaren hinted: I think Jenson liked what he saw and they liked him too." does not equal "Jenson Button agrees to join McLaren on three-year, £6m-a-year deal"

    henry says "terms have been agreed".

    i guess terms could also have been agreed with mercedes too.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 23:09

    The overtaking answer = banning aero.

    Easier said than done. Even the brake ducts are now aero.

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:10

    The overtaking answer = banning aero.

    Even the mint ones?

    I mean, the orange one can go. Maybe even the original. But the mint one MUST stay

  • paul16/11/2009 at 23:10

    Easier said than done. Even the brake ducts are now aero.

    Steel brakes. That would throw a few cats amongst the pigeons.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:10

    LOU!

    Nothing is official until it's official.

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:10

    Easier said than done. Even the brake ducts are now aero.

    As Joe mentioned - the genie escaped.

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:11

    LOU!

    Nothing is official until it's official.

    ...and even then, this is jenson so there's always the CRB.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:11

    Even the brake ducts are now aero.

    Gary Anderson's AUTOSPORT rants on brake duct aero apendages are brilliant

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:11

    Steel brakes. That would throw a few cats amongst the pigeons.

    Steel drum brakes, no servos

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:11

    ...and even then, this is jenson so there's always the CRB.

    CRB? he going to be working with kids?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:11

    ...and even then, this is jenson so there's always the CRB.

    Oh no, you didn't!

    :D

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:12

    Oh no, you didn't!

    :D

    ooops.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 23:12

    ...and even then, this is jenson so there's always the CRB.

    Criminal Records Bureau?

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:12

    Steel brakes. That would throw a few cats amongst the pigeons.

    Steel drum brakes, no servos

    From an '83 Metro

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:12

    Criminal Records Bureau?

    yes. or the contracts recognition board.

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:12

    yes. or the contracts recognition board.

    ah!

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 23:13

    ...and even then, this is jenson so there's always the CRB.

    :-)

  • lou16/11/2009 at 23:13

    ...and even then, this is jenson so there's always the CRB.

    *sigh* :(

  • paul16/11/2009 at 23:13

    From an '83 Metro

    Didn't they have disks? I had a Morris 1500 with disks.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:14

    Easier said than done. Even the brake ducts are now aero.

    As Joe mentioned - the genie escaped.

    There are ways to do it. Standard brake discs and wheels and a ban on anything else being within 100 mm of the disc or standard caliper

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:14

    From an '83 Metro

    Mansell drove a Metro. For an advert

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:15

    There are ways to do it. Standard brake discs and wheels and a ban on anything else being within 100 mm of the disc or standard caliper

    Apart from the hydraulic pipes of course. And the wheel.

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 23:15

    There are ways to do it. Standard brake discs and wheels and a ban on anything else being within 100 mm of the disc or standard caliper

    Basically, you'd have to standardise the bodywork or at least put such tight restrictions that it is essentially standardised - I'd rather stick with aero

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:15

    Didn't they have disks? I had a Morris 1500 with disks.

    Drums at the back

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:15

    *sigh* :(

    Look on the bright side Lou. Whatever happens Jensone is going to be in a car with a number one on it next season and there must have been times when you never thought that would happen.

    Besides it looks like he is guaranteed a drive whereas Kimi looks like he has lost out.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:16

    Apart from the hydraulic pipes of course. And the wheel.

    That's why I want a standard wheel. There will be suspension arms in the area too.

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:19

    That's why I want a standard wheel. There will be suspension arms in the area too.

    Oh yes, how could I forget?

  • littlepurplegoth16/11/2009 at 23:20

    Lou - you are allowed to give yourself permission to support more than one driver/team....

    Or does that not help?

    Ice cream??

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:20

    SPC = OWG 2011

    :D

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:20

    Basically, you'd have to standardise the bodywork or at least put such tight restrictions that it is essentially standardised - I'd rather stick with aero

    You don't have to standardise it. You just have to write the rules in a way that stop insane amounts of downforce being generated and make a car following another faster rather than slower than the car in front.

    You need high drag cars. Ideally you need something that stops the noses being so low and the ideal way to do that is to put something large at the front. The obvious answer is to put the engine back in the front.

  • lou16/11/2009 at 23:21

    Besides it looks like he is guaranteed a drive whereas Kimi looks like he has lost out.

    Kimi belongs at Mclaren, Jenson belongs with his team.. it's all wrong. :s

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:21

    The obvious answer is to put the engine back in the front.

    This I cannot agree with. The engine belongs at the back, this is why I drive a VW.

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 23:22

    Kimi belongs at Mclaren, Jenson belongs with his team.. it's all wrong. :s

    I haven't know such a big driver shake up for a very long time....

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:23

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WZSTijeZM

    Day 6

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 23:24

    Basically, you'd have to standardise the bodywork or at least put such tight restrictions that it is essentially standardised - I'd rather stick with aero

    You don't have to standardise it. You just have to write the rules in a way that stop insane amounts of downforce being generated and make a car following another faster rather than slower than the car in front.

    You need high drag cars. Ideally you need something that stops the noses being so low and the ideal way to do that is to put something large at the front. The obvious answer is to put the engine back in the front.

    In 2000 I learned about the CART regulations. Standardised bottom with two small venturi tunnels creating a small amount of ground effect. It meant the wings could be reduced. It wasn't the entire reason why the racing was so good but it surely helped. I've wanted to see that brought into F1 ever since.

  • littlepurplegoth16/11/2009 at 23:24

    This I cannot agree with. The engine belongs at the back, this is why I drive a VW.

    This is why he drives a Beetle... the other VW in the household has the engine in the front..

    LPG sighs heavily......

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:24

    Kimi belongs at Mclaren, Jenson belongs with his team.. it's all wrong. :s

    I totally agree and if Jenson signs for McLaren we are right and reality is wrong.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:25

    This I cannot agree with. The engine belongs at the back, this is why I drive a VW.

    I hate the idea of a front engine but it is the one thing that instantly screws up all existing F1 aero and handling data.

  • littlepurplegoth16/11/2009 at 23:26

    reality is wrong.

    I can't be the only person wanting to quote Pratchett and Adams here? Can I?

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:26

    This is why he drives a Beetle... the other VW in the household has the engine in the

    wrong place :p

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:26

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=e0WZSTijeZM

    Day 6

    "Laptop with a pink case" :lol:

  • littlepurplegoth16/11/2009 at 23:26

    wrong place :p

    Elbow??

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 23:27

    I can't be the only person wanting to quote Pratchett and Adams here? Can I?

    I really ought to know.. although in fairness it has been years since I stopped trying to collect Pratchett books... often wish I hadn't stopped.

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:28

    Day 6

    We are having peoblems with the bagel attachment. Superb

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:30

    I can't be the only person wanting to quote Pratchett and Adams here? Can I?

    Douglas Adams should be quoted at every opportunity. I have never read Terry Pratchett

  • lou16/11/2009 at 23:30

    Ice cream??

    we don't have any ice cream :(

    to be honest this is probably the cumulation of the whole load of stress from school and personal life too.

    I'm going to go try get some sleep or something now i think, long day of forensic psychology lectures in london tomorrow..

    night all :( xx

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:32

    I have never read Terry Pratchett

    Don't be put off, he is really very good.

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:32

    great comment from alia on joe's blog:

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/thieving-from-the-thieves/#comment-6498

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:34

    great comment from alia on joe's blog:

    tis a point, can joe use the mod button?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:35

    Night Lou

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 23:35

    Your son is a cynic!

    Nah, he just figured it out before most other kids. {Comment #636}

    I remember not believing the original Santa Claus story because he was supposed to come down a chimney - and the fire in the solid fuel burner at the bottom of my house's chimney was always lit on Christmas Eve...

    Not that this stopped me from believing in Santa Claus, because I came up with an alternative/augmentary theory. I then decided that since there must be lots of people in that situation (or whose houses were simply lacking something in the chimney department), maybe Santa went round those houses at about 11:30pm and got the nearest available adults to help him carry stuff from the sleigh. Then he'd do everyone else's house at midnight, which would explain why he was particularly grateful when such houses provided mince pies and wine for his consumption (my parents never bothered with the wine, but then again the reindeer could fill themselves up with hay and horse food, which not every household can practicably do).

    Naturally the adults would not want the children to come outside to see what the fuss was about when this was happening, so they'd pretend they were going on a huge boring shopping trip* and then preparing their own presents to the children... ...or something. Not every child was given the same excuse, or someone would figure out that it was only an excuse, investigate and possibly see Santa at an awkward moment (e.g. when the dog was chasing him).

    Getting the children to bed at an early hour was particularly important, because I also believed that Santa and my parents planned where the presents were to go in co-ordination. Conversations downstairs could wake children up if parents weren't careful, which may explain why it was the one time of year my brother and I was given alcohol (heavily diluted but still effective to make us sleepy).

    I shared this theory with my class of fellow five-year-olds at the time and they quite liked it (apart from the ones that got completely confused because back then I could imagine a lot better than I could express myself).

    As a result of this complicated theory, it took me until I was 15 to figure out that there was no Santa and my parents not only carried my presents to the house and bought a special present, but bought all of them them as well. This was despite obvious clues like my parents asking me to price my own Christmas list when I was 7...

    * - This was partially true. It was relatively easy for my parents to get a friend to babysit on Christmas Eve because most of the people they trusted for it didn't work that day, so that was when the big Christmas shopping expedition happened. Things that needed a long time to cook like the Christmas turkey were bought earlier from elsewhere. They just happened to stay out for a while after the shops shut (I still don't know where, but suspect it might have been Grandma's house) to wrap presents and relax a bit before coming home!

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:35

    Don't be put off, he is really very good.

    I have not been put off. I just never got round to reading him

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 23:36

    Ali - did you get my e-mail? :)

  • Maverick16/11/2009 at 23:38

    Good night, have a good evening

  • Bassano Clapper16/11/2009 at 23:39

    Good night, have a good evening

    Me too

    Night all

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 23:39

    You mean you're not having a completely separate sidepodcast international? {Comment #662}

    I wonder if the karting venue could be persuaded to do one - they do have a conference room and bar as well as the facilities we used for the karting competition. Could be an idea for one day, if we could sell the tickets...

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:40

    joe's thoughts on henry's article:

    Button signing for McLaren would be a surprise for a number of reasons, but when it comes to McLaren Alan rarely gets it wrong.

    ohh, bugger. more here: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/well-maybe-jenson-is-going-to-mclaren/

  • littlepurplegoth16/11/2009 at 23:43

    ohh, bugger. more here: http://joesawa...-is-going-to-mclaren/

    In other words, it is just as well that Lou has gone to bed, and will be out all day tomorrow....

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 23:44

    In other words, it is just as well that Lou has gone to bed, and will be out all day tomorrow....

    I think for her sake, she must not see this article. :P

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:44

    In other words, it is just as well that Lou has gone to bed, and will be out all day tomorrow....

    agreed. joe right about a rosberg/heidfeld line-up being weak too.

    can they call rubens back?

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:44

    great comment from alia on joe's blog:

    She really knows how to say what is on her mind. Well done Alianora

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 23:45

    can they call rubens back?

    Doubt it.

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:47

    can they call rubens back?

    CRB says no.

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:47

    CRB says no.

    :)

  • littlepurplegoth16/11/2009 at 23:48

    Hmmm - further thought...

    There was a rumour that Hamilton would have to give at least a seasons notice should he plan to leave. Is it possible that he's given such and we just haven't heard yet?

    (LPG doubts this, but now sits back to see if a certain 'news' service runs with it...)

  • Jon Waldock16/11/2009 at 23:49

    (LPG doubts this, but now sits back to see if a certain 'news' service runs with it...)

    :D

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:49

    can they call rubens back?

    Rubens is gone. The only big name option they have is Raikkonen

  • me16/11/2009 at 23:51

    Rubens is gone. The only big name option they have is Raikkonen

    they need him. but he wouldn't accept what button wouldn't, surely?

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 23:52

    great comment from alia on joe's blog:

    She really knows how to say what is on her mind. Well done Alianora

    *applause*

  • Alianora La Canta16/11/2009 at 23:53

    Ali - did you get my e-mail? :) {Comment #1298}

    Yes I have, and I've just sent you the invoice via e-mail. Thanks for persuading your dad to come too :)

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 23:54

    Yes I have, and I've just sent you the invoice via e-mail. Thanks for persuading your dad to come too :)

    Heh, wasn't hard. All it took was one text and he was there :P

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 23:55

    Heh, wasn't hard. All it took was one text and he was there :P

    So yeah, both me and Dad will be racing. :P

  • Pat W16/11/2009 at 23:55

    So yeah, both me and Dad will be racing. :P

    excellent

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:56

    *applause*

    Here too.

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 23:56

    Is there anyone else apart from who's on the list in the Wiki that is coming too? :P

  • Steven Roy16/11/2009 at 23:56

    they need him. but he wouldn't accept what button wouldn't, surely?

    Depends whether he has another option. If I was Mercedes I would be tempted to open the cheque book rather than launch with Rosberg and Heidfeld.

  • Andy Taylor16/11/2009 at 23:56

    Is there anyone else apart from who's on the list in the Wiki that is coming too? :P

    I am.

  • Scott Woodwiss16/11/2009 at 23:58

    I am.

    Cool. I was really asking Ali if there's anyone who's coming apart from us lot at SPC?

  • Sean Golding17/11/2009 at 00:01

    Morning all.

  • Jon Waldock17/11/2009 at 00:02

    Morning Mr G

  • Sean Golding17/11/2009 at 00:03

    Morning Mr G

    Ooh, I've never had Mr G before.

  • Andy Taylor17/11/2009 at 00:03

    Ok bedtime. night all

  • Alianora La Canta17/11/2009 at 00:03

    great comment from alia on joe's blog:

    She really knows how to say what is on her mind. Well done Alianora

    *applause* {Comment #1314}}

    *blushes* Thank you me, Steven and Pat. It was one of those comments that snowballed - it started off with me getting slightly fed up of people not understanding the concept that it's possible to steal something you can't pick up and throw and ended an hour later without me quite knowing how I got there. Glad you like it, and Joe certainly deserves defenders.

  • Steven Roy17/11/2009 at 00:04

    Hi Sean

    Latest news

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/nov/16/jenson-button-joins-mclaren-contract

  • Alianora La Canta17/11/2009 at 00:05

    Heh, wasn't hard. All it took was one text and he was there :P {Comment #1316}

    Glad it was that easy. If everyone who says they're coming and has been invoiced pays, then we will exceed the theoretical minimum numbers to book the venue :)

  • Sean Golding17/11/2009 at 00:06

    Latest news

    So is this 100% a sure thing yet?

  • Steven Roy17/11/2009 at 00:06

    *blushes* Thank you me, Steven and Pat. It was one of those comments that snowballed - it started off with me getting slightly fed up of people not understanding the concept that it's possible to steal something you can't pick up and throw and ended an hour later without me quite knowing how I got there. Glad you like it, and Joe certainly deserves defenders.

    I found that with my earlier comment on that thread. It ended up quite a lot longer than intended

  • Steven Roy17/11/2009 at 00:07

    So is this 100% a sure thing yet?

    Not 100% but Alan Henry is very good and Joe has a post saying that Henry is rarley wrong about McLaren

  • Pat W17/11/2009 at 00:08

    *Tips metaphorical had at the leavers / newcomers*

  • Pat W17/11/2009 at 00:08

    *Tips metaphorical had at the leavers / newcomers*

    um, hat

  • Sean Golding17/11/2009 at 00:09

    Well, all I can say is that I hope this doesn't mean Kimi will no longer be in F1.

  • Alianora La Canta17/11/2009 at 00:10

    Is there anyone else apart from who's on the list in the Wiki that is coming too? {Comment #1320}

    Yes. I've had nine people confirm so far (by confirmed I mean both requested and paid) and I don't think there are nine names on the wiki. However, I've not added their names myself in case they want anonymity.

  • Alianora La Canta17/11/2009 at 00:15

    Thank you for your prompt payment, Scott! I can now confirm that I have exceeded the minimum needed to book the venue, which makes budgeting really easy now ;)

  • Sean Golding17/11/2009 at 00:17

    Where are you guys all off to?

  • Pat W17/11/2009 at 00:21

    Where are you guys all off to?

    Karting meet-up in January!

  • Sean Golding17/11/2009 at 00:22

    Karting meet-up in January!

    I always wanted to go karting.

  • me17/11/2009 at 00:30

    not much to do on must comment monday this week. have i missed anyone?

  • Jon Waldock17/11/2009 at 00:31

    not much to do on must comment monday this week. have i missed anyone?

    *ahem* ;)

    http://www.feederseries.co.uk/

  • me17/11/2009 at 00:32

    *ahem* ;)

    ahhh! ta.

  • Pat W17/11/2009 at 00:33

    http://www.feederseries.co.uk/

    The site seems quite slow for some reason.

  • me17/11/2009 at 00:34

    ahhh! ta.

    hmm. jon, the article isn't in my feedreader. have i got the wrong rss url? last entry was episode #4.

  • Sean Golding17/11/2009 at 00:34

    not much to do on must comment monday this week. have i missed anyone?

    If you want another one

    http://pardonthefrench.wordpress.com/

  • Pat W17/11/2009 at 00:35

    not much to do on must comment monday this week. have i missed anyone?

    I was too busy to write anything or read much either, and expect to be for a couple of weeks. I will try to do Thursday Thoughts. When this pesky retake is out of the way I'll be able to do it properly..

  • me17/11/2009 at 00:35

    If you want another one

    http://pardonthefrench.wordpress.com/

    ace!

  • Jon Waldock17/11/2009 at 00:35

    hmm. jon, the article isn't in my feedreader. have i got the wrong rss url? last entry was episode #4.

    ah i know the problem you have. your problem is taht you have the podcast feed...

    http://thefeederseries.wordpress.com/feed/

    thats the blog/podcast/everything feed. am gonna try and get that feed as the one on itunes, but wont hold out much hope

  • me17/11/2009 at 00:35

    thats the blog/podcast/everything feed. am gonna try and get that feed as the one on itunes, but wont hold out much hope

    ah, cheers. updated.

  • Jon Waldock17/11/2009 at 00:36

    Oh Pat, i think GP2 has winner getting superlicence, not top 3. but i may be worng

  • Steven Roy17/11/2009 at 00:37

    Oh Pat, i think GP2 has winner getting superlicence, not top 3. but i may be worng

    I think that is correct. Top 3 in F2 and the winner of GP2

  • Pat W17/11/2009 at 00:37

    Oh Pat, i think GP2 has winner getting superlicence, not top 3. but i may be worng

    I thought I saw it in the list posted here the other day but I can't remember.

  • Jon Waldock17/11/2009 at 00:38

    I think that is correct. Top 3 in F2 and the winner of GP2

    ah thought so. hense "The winner of the Formula Two championship will get a full test with Williams F1 and a superlicence, controversially the 2nd and 3rd placed competitors will also gain a superlicence."

    ;)

  • guille230617/11/2009 at 00:44

    not much to do on must comment monday this week. have i missed anyone?

    well, it's not precisely comment-friendly, and it wasn't published on Monday (almost), but

    http://guille2306-pictures.blogspot.com/2009/11/spider.html

    (ok, it's just a shameless plug... ;-) )

    BTW, don't follow that link if you're scared by spiders...

  • Jon Waldock17/11/2009 at 00:45

    I thought I saw it in the list posted here the other day but I can't remember.

    oooh.

    From 1.1.2010: been classifi ed in the fi rst 4 of the fi nal classifi cation of

    the Indycar IRL series within the previous 2 years

  • Steven Roy17/11/2009 at 00:46

    (ok, it's just a shameless plug... ;-) )

    Shameless plugs are always a good idea