We have reached Sunday and it is Doctor Who day! Eh-hem. Please excuse any Doctor Who excitement in the daily thread today, but we have been waiting a long time for this! Of course, there are plenty of F1 things to talk about. Well, I say plenty, there are a couple of things.
- Notus have confirmed that running a Malaysian driver is not crucial to their plans to hit the grid, and that is lucky, as there are only a couple of viable options. They are hoping for that in the future though, and looking at it as more of a long-term project rather than something they need for their first year in the sport.
- In linkage news, Jackie came up with a great weekend idea to highlight some of the great posts and give you something to read over a weekend. Round up posts are always very interesting, especially when there is editorial in there as well.
- Yesterday, we watched Cars and live commented our way through the film - it was brilliant fun, and thanks to everyone who was around to enjoy it with us. If you missed out this time, stay tuned for the next movie - we're taking suggestions over on the wiki. Whichever one we pick will have to go some way to beat Cars, though, it had rarely working traffic lights and everything!
That'll do it for now. Don't forget there's no live show tonight, but we are working on the podcast about our experience at the Mercedes-Benz event, and that should be with you at some point soon. I will see you in the comments.
PING
you can beat the pinger in your sleep?
Oopsie!
sorry boss, issues down here at ping hq
Oh hello, it's Sunday
YES!! You got traffic lights in!!!!
They are called Notus here because they are not Lotus so Notus
special powers
grrrr, why is pat always right
Meh...
I rock
GRRRRRR
:)
woo!
overtime next week to make up for it.
i'd like to point out to you how you overworked me mid week when you were moving all those old posts! i was working flat out!
I have an urge to watch The Incredibles now after Cars you know.
But I don't trust the box...
How was sidepodfilmclub? Did it go well?
Watch it!! Box be darned!!
It was great! It initially started with a very worrying moment for myself, then we saw a traffic light break and unbreak, and some fun cameos, and cow tractors falling over, and everything.
Cars is awesome :)
Oh you must. It's excellent.
It was probably designed by Syndrome.
Well for a start, check Lukeh's qik page!
We have reached Sunday and it is Doctor Who day! {Original entry}
Indeed so! And almost as exciting for me is that it is also lasagne day (i.e. I will try to make some without blowing up the house - especially since said house belongs to the friend who has determined to teach me some basic life skills...)
agreed!
http://qik.com/video/3551385
Traumatic times were had.
cow tractors??
And the combine bull
yep and small bugs that were actual beatle cars!
It looks like a top/bottom slide having pinged the flap..
I'd offer to lend you a child but they are all asleep now.
Good night, need sleep in case Dr Who gives me nightmares ;-)
"The incredibles? it should be called the rubbish box"
classic
Bless ya and your happiness
ookayyy.... Something tells me I need to watch the film to understand...
you really really really do
Morning, folks.
Will rush off to watch the boxing soon, but before I do, does someone have access to Brundle's Sunday column? Did he say something like this?
and read the comments while you do it!
Tractors falling over? MOO. :D
The link I just posted explains my problem.
The rest... yeah you'll need to see the film :P
Every sentient being in the film is a car or vehicle of some description.
Bye
i can't watch it, am on my iPod lol
Hah :-)
Night!
Dr Who!!!! I forgot that is today :D
lol indeed
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6917184.ece
There is a major twist in this tale. This week it will be announced that Mercedes-Benz has sold its shareholding in McLaren and will be taking a majority stake in Brawn GP. McLaren will continue with Mercedes engines, but Brawn will become the works team, so Button has to get out his crystal ball to work out which team will give him the faster car next year. Will McLaren return to top form? Or has the tide turned, given that Brawn and Red Bull won 14 of the 17 races this year?
wha????
Interesting, that. And this too:
Looks like Goddard's been giving us the go-around... If those are indeed the numbers, I would think Button would stay. More so if Mercedes add a sweetener.
You're surprised? Only thing a BIT surprising here is that it'll happen this year rather than next.
Lou is not going to like Brundle's thoughts on where Button will drive next year
Why not? Brundle thinks he'll end up at Brawn anyhow - and it's the right thing to do, too.
I'm really struggling to believe any of this.
Do you think he's been reading some highly researched and professionally compiled stories? Neither do I.
actually, that's ok. i'm tired and misread that. i think we were expecting it sooner than this. interesting that martin knows it will happen this week.
i haven't drunk enough this evening for you to tell me... Please no bad news
He is duggesting that there the negotiations with McLaren were serious rather than just a ploy
Brundle is not exactly short of high level contacts down Woking way. I am sure that tomorrow or Monday I will have managed to find some highly researched and professionally compiled stories saying what he said.
i agree with everything martin says there. talking a lot of sense.
suggesting
:D
It's not bad or remotely definite. Read for yourself
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6917184.ece
Why wouldn't they be serious. That doesn't mean they are finalised. Button would be silly not to view a Mclare offer very carefully.
So is Merc stepping down their McLaren involvement, or is McLaren distancing themselves from Merc?
both. mclaren built a rival road car.
I found this part interesting
And (gasp) put their own engine in it.
badged engine. they don't have the ability to make their own yet.
but, that must've stung down stuttgart way.
Mercedes want out of McLaren because McLaren launched their latest car with their own rather than a Merc engine and Merc see it as a rival for their car which was launched 3 days later. McLaren vetoed Mercedes advertising on the Brawn car this season and vetoed the supply of engines to Red Bull. So if Merc get out of the McLaren deal they can have their name on Brawn and Newey's cars
Really? After making the new gullwing? I think Mercedes had pretty much cut those ties a while back.
mclaren didn't build that car overnight though. there must've been discussions about what would power it a long time ago.
seems to me that, after the SLR, Mercedes decided to go back to AMG, and not carry on with Mclaren
agreed. back then though mercedes didn't have a rival f1 team to jump too.
Why isn't this getting a massive OMG response all over the place? You'd think a partnership as close and long-lasting as that coming apart would be big news in the specialist press. I've seen it reported but it doesn't come across as a major thing...
I knew that, but the badge says McLaren, not Mercedes-Benz.
1994 race driver + 1998-2004 DC manager = LOTS of contacts.
I wonder if McLaren considered badged Honda engines for their road car?
Interesting - if the Merc-Brawn deal goes off, will the RBR-Merc deal be back on?
I guess the partnership has run its course for many. It makes for a refreshing change after seeing the rumor that Mercedes will buy out McLaren for the last... 4 or 5 offseasons now.
I was very surprised when I first saw it. One or two people mentioned it and I said it was bull because I thought the two companies were locked in to each other
I think there is a good chance if Merc can get out of the McLaren contract that Red Bull will be a Merc customer next season. There has to be a reason why RBR have not named their engine supplier for next season.
I'd heard for a while that they might be frustrated at the ownership arrangement... they own the majority share but the other owners still have majority voting rights.. is that right? But even with that I thought it was solid.
Very good point.
agreed.
and with that. goodnight all.
Night Mr C
also agreed.
This early night business is hard to get used to. Night!
They have a plurality share (the largest among all stakeholders - around 40%?), but they don't have the majority. All Ron did was make a deal with Mansour Ojjeh and Mumtalakat that they would all vote the same way, effectively creating a majority coalition, if you will.
if alison arrives while i'm sleeping, she needs lots of xx's.
she'll know why.
What have you done to her?
night mr c... No kisses? ;)
hehe. nothing. it's txt spk.
:)
xxxxxx
voicemail?
We love you too :)
Past time for bed here too, so goodnight all from LPG and myself.
Goodnight
Same here, night guys, night everyone :)
Night Lukeh
i am at work doing no work but being paid double to be here. Cant wait to get home and watch cars and pretend i was actually here for it :D
Night!
See ya!
Paid double to do nothing is ideal.. although giving up a Sunday..?
giving up a Sunday isnt nice but I have Friday off so its still a 5 day week. The sacrifices I have to make to afford my trip means I foresee more weekend work in my future :(
Did you get dressed for work or just stick wit hteh pjs?
i got dressed today!
Right, time for us to sleep, night all!xx
Night Lou
I bet you don't stay dressed for long once you get home
home is still 6 hours away so you are probably right.
Night
Night Pat
So I'm still here really...
Picked up some CDs on a market stall today. My town has a record fair every now and then. Lots of people apparently still collect vinyl albums, I don't have a record player but they also sell CDs which is useful to me. I like hoarding them. I find if you rely on downloads you forget things.
So I picked up Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon (how did I not own this before?), Metallica's black album (very good) and Super Furry Animals' Radiator (not listened to yet). I like physical media, I'm quite tactile like that.
Plans for Sunday: Study, Study, Study.
I have an accountancy exam coming up soon. Retake 'cos I failed the 2nd half of the paper (passed the 1st half but still have to retake both). Refresher course next week (a Saturday, ugh) then on the 2nd I have the retake.
Must refrain from commenting and blogging.
I bought some lovely fresh salmon today and was looking forward to having it for dinner because I haven't had salmon since I left NZ 17 months ago. But one of my colleagues went to the market after me and she gathered it up with her shopping and took it home :(
So now I have to wait until tomorrow to have lovely slightly-less-fresh salmon :(
Re giving Red Bull a Merc engine if Merc leave Macca for Brawn, as everyone has now been expecting for a while.....
That was why all the Daimler big-wigs and Ron were at Abu after all....
But as to engines ... if you were buying Brawn would you give their closest competitors this year, and most likely everyone's strongest opposition next year, the best engine?.... I think not....
There is no way Macca would buy out the Merc 40% if they couldn't keep the engines for at least a couple of seasons....
Isn't Mclaren getting ready to build their own engines for the 2011 or 2012 season?
Morning.
Has anyone heard of a site called "Formula One News"?
Seems that they are taking our blog articles, posting them onto their site, and just adding "All credit goes to the Source" with a link at the end. Hmm....
Cheeky. They're making money out of other peoples work.
@Lady Snowcat
I am working on my car-adjust championships - in my first variable Kimi becomes the top driver which should please you and Lewis only 13th.
There is actually options for Macca there are two very competent engines that will not be used next year which they could buy (either design or complete manufacture).
Happens quite regularly unfortunately. I had numerous sites leeching my feeds when I was running The Red Bullog and using my articles to make it look as if it was their doing.
In the end I had to the feed to just show excerpts instead of the full thing. Annoyed the hell out of me that did.
"I am working on my car-adjust championships - in my first variable Kimi becomes the top driver which should please you and Lewis only 13th."
Dear Rich....
Sounds like you've got it exactly right straight away!!....
You are a star....
"There is actually options for Macca there are two very competent engines that will not be used next year which they could buy (either design or complete manufacture)."
Just assuming they want the best they can have, and I think evryone believes that after lots of aggro in earlier years Mercedes have got that position firmly nailed....
Macca will probably design their own but I am not sure they'll be ready just yet....
It is only part of the story - but in a way I have convinced myself that Ferraris, Renaults and BMWs were really really bad. Kimi's strong showing has something to do with KERS.
Second in this category was Fernando and Robert was third! Won't spoil the post with more details.
I think the Mercedes is the best engine - but the 2009 best and the worst car on the grid share the same engine. So Engine is not the most important consideration.
Morning all...
Game this morning so don't know why I'm posting this. err, Go Timo!
...Bye all.
"I think the Mercedes is the best engine - but the 2009 best and the worst car on the grid share the same engine. So Engine is not the most important consideration"
I thought that Toro Rosso used the Ferrari engine...
And the worst car on the grid (per your estimation)... got a podium largely because of the engine....
"Kimi's strong showing has something to do with KERS."
As did Lewis's, as the Macca was agreed to be a better KERS system... and we all know how hard the KERS made the Ferrari to drive a la Fisi ... and how the Ferrari KERS failed due to heat etc, like in Abu....
Looking forward to the article... there are just so many things to take into account....
Morning., Has anyone taken my glasses??
wasn't me!
Kimi made better use of the KERS than Lewis or any other driver. It seems from this that the Ferrari really was a dog of a car and it is to both Felipe and Kimi that they did as well. Incidentally the Macca after about round 4 the should have been competitive.
There must be something wrong with my analysis but against targets set Lewis simply met them, drivers like Kimi, Felipe and Robert exceeded them. Other drivers measured miserably - but it is early days in the analysis.
Morning all! Hope you're all good.
Toro Rosso may not have been the worst car - just had the poorest drivers. I am finding good evidence for Fernando saying that Renault is the worst car and John Howett saying both Toyota drivers should have done better.
If only Kim had accepted the Toyota offer - it had potential for very serious speed and might just explain why Kobayashi made such a good début. Sadly this analysis is not reflecting so great on some of my favourite drivers.
Agreed. Renault also stopped development quite early I believe.
Also forgot to say the Force India was not bad either - it show more speed on more variety of circuits that I expected - I do take it though Silverston is a low downforce track?
"There must be something wrong with my analysis but against targets set Lewis simply met them, drivers like Kimi, Felipe and Robert exceeded them. Other drivers measured miserably - but it is early days in the analysis."
But you could be right on point....
Don't get bogged down by changing things to obtain the results to match your expectations... as that would skew it....
I am sure you could change parameters to always end up with exactly what you expect to see... but that wouldn't make it right....
I am not going to, it is just Lewis is simply coming exactly what you would expect the car to come out with, Kimi and Fernado (and possibly Felipe) and coming out way better. Robert is because he score so few points and the BMW was totally rubbish - especially the KERS one which Nick had in the beginning. It is a little known or promoted fact BMW when they ditched their KERS-NonKERS and replaced it with a Non-KERS only car it was virtually a new car ground up - it certainly improved their situation.
It was real rubbish I am afraid, be it KERS or non-KERS.
The Renault? Yeah, it was a very bad car - not sure it bodes too well for Kubica next year
If it was rubbish, then should Grosjean get another chance?
I am also understanding why Williams seemed not too concerned about losing Rosberg. Kaz was sadly hopeless as it was not so bad a car.
"I am not going to, it is just Lewis is simply coming exactly what you would expect the car to come out with, Kimi and Fernado (and possibly Felipe) and coming out way better"....
So you can't believe the Lewis position....
Because?....
The lack of testing certainly hurt him. It's a shame there is such limited testing over the off season or I'd put him in a programme against Lucas Di Grassi for the second seat early on.
Could argue the same for Piquet to be honest - he at least got into Q3 with that rubbish car.
Everybody tells me he is so good and he did a lot better than Kovy!
Hello everyone. How are we?
Oops, that was not 'me', that was me!
It was a very poor car so even with testing I doubt it would have made much difference. It is establishing that Alonso can do wonders with a poor car.
Morning. The world is blurry today :( I went to sleep with my glasses on ym desk and i wake up to find them gone
Oh no!
Morning MR C and Christine.
"Everybody tells me he is so good and he did a lot better than Kovy!"
Sooo....
Kovy was crushed in 2008 and couldn't get it together at all in 2009....
You are trying to match the results to everyone's expectations.... of Lewis...
I honestly believe that from Germany onwards the Macca was pretty amazing... certainly better than the Ferrari...
And perhaps you need to feature in that although it was easier to drive than the Ferrari and the KERS were better, it was still more difficult than the Red Bulls and Brawns.... for similar weight distribution issues to the Ferrari.... (although it was widely agreed that the Macca weight distribution was better than the Ferrari because of the KERS battery location)....
This difficult to drive feature could have been an additional Heikki problem....
Where can they have gone?
I hve looked from head to toe in ym room to no luck... and im having to put my head very close tothe laptop to type this. Grrr. stupid vision and lack of memory and strange unexplainable incident.
last time I lost mine I had knocked them behind my bed but rather than falling onto the floor they were sitting on a bit of the mattress base that stuck out about 1cm more than the mattress. Took me 3 weeks to find them. So I'd recommend looking there ;)
wasn't that Germany where the rain effected quali?
"It was a very poor car so even with testing I doubt it would have made much difference. It is establishing that Alonso can do wonders with a poor car"
There is little yardstick for this as the only driver with any talent at all was Fernie... the others Junior and Grosjean (especially the latter) were not that strong.... and Alonso did most of the true testing with his team-mate doing all the less exciting set-up stuff re tyre wear....
Although it was only at the very end after Pat 's influence disappeared that I think they stopped developing and actually they made a lot of comments that they were pretty good... just didn't translate it on the track especially when they tried and retried KERS...
They were probably hurt by dipping in and out of KERS.... rather than that the car was sooo rubbish....
Good Morning!
Cannot say much about the Toro Rosso - it shares similar potential but I think the Renault engine improved driveability over the ferrari engine.
I did not factor in ease of driving but what the analysis could suggest
Ferrari mid running but hugely difficult to drive
Toyota fast and easy to drive but got the set up seriously wrong at times
Macca fast with improved driveability as season progressed
Red Bull very very very fast with moderate driveability
Brawn Fast and easy to drive but lost speed during the season
Renault - very unpredictable get the impression they never understood the car
Williams Good turn of speed but moderately difficult to drive
Force India Fast but specialised to certain circuits - set up or design?
BMW Sauber - the KERS/Non-KERS car was a complete nightmare (high center of gravity). I think they returned to essentially a 2008 "inspired" car from midway
Problem solved!!
They were under the bed. Not down the sides, I mean proper under the bed. I hate it when I can't work out why!!!
random sleep walking?
#BlameSutil
Well there are books under my bed so random sleep reading? Perhaps I put the book on my face and the glasses with the books. God knows.
OK my hunch they were trying too many things (KERS, non-KERS and a variety of diffusers rather than in a stepwise logical fashion so they could separate out the variables - even Fernando had huge variation in times . I have not found quite the evidence of complete catastrophe that BMW had - Robert with his mass had no chance of running the KERS.
#Pixies
when my brother was younger his sleep trick was throwing his pillows out the window in the middle of the night.
:D wow... was the window open or did he have to unlatch it?
*hides laughter*
Amy (Not *You* Amy, my Amy...A.K.A Pineapple) often has random conversations with me in my sleep. I get worried as to what stupid things I'll say?!
he would open them, throw the pillows out, then close it and get back into bed. Mum would always get angry if he did it when it was raining, but it's not like he could stop!
hehehe... thats brilliant!
Did he try locking the windows... has he managed to stop doing it? It could be a problem if you lived on the 20th floor!
You cant still pretend she is called amy :P
we didn't have lockable windows in our house :D I don't think he does it anymore but according to his girlfriend he is still quite the sleep talker.
My older brother sleep yells... I can hear him from my own room some nights shouting random gibberish. once or twice he will come in to ask an inane question completely unrelated to anything, then have no idea what I'm on about in the morning. It's very odd.
Yeah, I know how he feels.
I sailed on a tall ship a few years ago, you get soooo tired as you never sleep for more that 3-4 hours at a time and I got my head down once, then woke the guy in the bunk opposite me up to ask:
"John, John, did you put the plugs back in? The captain said you need to sort it or the ship will sink"
Sadly about 4 people we up to see this display, and I was not allowed to forget it for the remainder of the trip.
:D :D
I wonder how many relationships have been ruined by the sleep-talking ramblings of one partner :D
Why do you call her Pineapple?
because shes not me.
It was a SPC assigned name, so not to confuse her with SPC Amy.
She doens't know it's her name....tried to call her it for a while to see if it would stick. Didn't work....she'd probably kill me if she found out where it came from.
The circuit layout for the Indian Grand Prix that is due for 2011 has been revealed. Though I say revealed, it appears to have been available for some time but nobody has picked up on it: http://www.jaypeegreens-sportscity.com/masterplan_of_sports_city.html
Yawntastic. Looks more Valencia and Abu Dhabi than Turkey to me.
Not sure who came up with it now.
#blamenick http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/10/24/daily-24th-october-2009/#comment-559680
It's like China mixed with South Korea mixed with Singapore
OH WAIT.
Like I said on Twitter, Tilke just remixes the same corners every time. He's the Fatboy Slim of Circuit Designers!
Another Tilkedrome. Argh, just argh. Why??! This man has had what...8 opportunities to design a good track and all of the races have been total gash at his 'venues' so far.
Cheers!
More details about the circuit and the planner's intentions on Wikipedia
I really can't wait.
There's too many corners!
1 more race with no fans watching, and millions around the world forced into a catatonic state by the sheer tedium of it all.
Meanwhile, Indy, Silverstone, Imola, Magny Cours, Montreal, the Nurburgring, and possible Albert Park are left begging for the scraps left behind by Bernie and his ever demanding wallet.
*possibly
And this doesn't?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_International_Circuit
" I have not found quite the evidence of complete catastrophe that BMW had - Robert with his mass had no chance of running the KERS."
Did they ever run it with Robert... once maybe?....
Assume a similar level of driving difficulty in the early season before they changed...
Also take into account difficulty without the benefit of KERS.... for Robert and occasionally for Nick as well... you'd need to find the exact races where they did/didn't use it and when they changed the car to the "easy drive version".... was it Germany/Hungary?.... or later?....
Think Ferrari in Singapore or Abu Dhabi....
What the!!!!
Well a lot of Indians I know like F1, but whether they can afford to attend is another matter.
Yay for the general decline of F1 to line someone's back pocket!
I went cross-eyed looking at that!
This is not a hashtag, despite what Alison might claim!
He puts in straights... people complain...
He puts in Corners... people complain...
Obviously then he should just stand aside ;)
i have never complained about a tilke straight.
it's his poxy 2nd gear corners that inevitably follow them that i object to.
Isnt there an FIA regulation which says straights of a certain length must be followed by a tight corner?
don't know, but there certainly isn't one that says they should be followed by six of them.
But i agree... that his circuits seem to be far to concentrated on slower corners.
Sepang was good, but i fear the criticizem there has led to his current mode.
Yeah I mean come on, it's got a long straight with a tight corner on each end, then a load of silly tight corners!
It's the combination of them all that is the problem.
Someone actually needs to look at tracks where cars can overtake and work out why it's possible. You can pass in Brazil, Spa, Silverstone, Indy, what makes those tracks work, and the Tilkedromes not work?!
This is the problem, his circuits have not induced good racing - but somehow he's allowed to carry on building architectually magnificent venues - but forgetting that they're there for cars to RACE on not play follow my leader.
Like Mr C says, the endless 2nd gear corners after straights aren't working.
Tilke doesn't innovate, he just recycles old ideas that didn't work first time round.
Let's be honest, he had pretty much an unlimited budget in Abu Dhabi and look what he did with it. That in itself should have closed the door to him. $1 Billion, on land reclamed from the sea? Couldn't you have built just a BIT of elevation change into the track?
You can pass at silverstone?
they can't even do that, given the amount of field spread he induces with the slow and middling sections.
hell yeah. we're talking silverstone, uk. right?
you must be thinking of somewhere else / watching a different series?
Perhaps... Because i didnt see that much more than Bahrain/Turkey
"Perhaps... Because i didnt see that much more than Bahrain/Turkey"
Neither did I.....
button passed loads in silverstone didn't he? he qualified badly, then dropped back at the start and had to fight his way through the field.
lewis was busy all day too.
hmmm. am gonna have to find some footage.
bahrain was a nightmare, when it came to passing this year.
i should also add i was sick during the bahrain weekend, and almost didn't watch it. come the end of the race i wish i hadn't.
i go so far as to say i enjoyed abu dhabi more than bahrain.
where does the Hungaroring fit in? :)
Nonsense.
between germany and the summer break i think.
it was a long shot :)
According to this http://www.cliptheapex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=822#wrap there were 16 overtakes in Bahrain to Silverstone's 9 this year.
on track??
hehe oh dear...
My memories might be clouded by Lewis move on Jenson
If Brian Lawrence was involved, then yes, they're on track and don't include the first lap or the pitstops...
I knew it!
"hmmm. am gonna have to find some footage.
bahrain was a nightmare, when it came to passing this year."
Hmmm....
Well I was at Bahrain in the University grandstand... and I saw some action...
More than I saw at Silverstone....
They did once, so poor Nick ended up doing the development work. His early season showed some of the harm this did (sure he fluked 2nd place at Sepang but it only got half points). Robert was stronger at the season start. At the end of the season Nick was a lot stronger than Robert (fuel-corrected qualifying and race pace) but three stuffed team work or equipment in four races (under-mass @ Singapore, wheel nut @ Japan and fuel rig @ Brazil) does dent a person's chances. Both Robert and Nick made costly mistakes.
someone I know is going to Bahrain instead of Albert Park this year because he didn't want to miss out on the season opener. Sounds like a waste of money to me.
madness. silverstone was so much more enjoyable than bahrain, how is that possible?
i wanted to shoot myself after watching 90 minutes in the desert.
Indeed:
The overtaking figures for each race do not include:
* Position changes on the first lap of the race
* Position changes due to drivers lapping backmarkers
* Positions gained in the pits
* Positions gained when a car has a serious technical problem; e.g. puncture, accident damage, etc.
and by this I mean next. Silly off season making me think it's suddenly next year.
it's not the real season opener, it doesn't count.
just like brazil is the real season closer.
:(
:(
"i go so far as to say i enjoyed abu dhabi more than bahrain."
And I enjoyed both.... although the atmosphere at Abu was probably more of a buzz....
And Bahrain was hotter.... but the day/night thing was in Abu's favour there....
so there will be no debrief for Bahrain then? :)
there almost wasn't this year :)
Its you antipodeans having your seasons backwards... Madness
Abu Dhabi was the most rubbish race all season - I actually gave up watching. I think they were trying to get too much of the scenery in so you actually missed the cars.
Morning everyone... Afternoon everyone...
Hosted wordpress is annoying isn't it ;)
I havent listened to the AD one yet! ...oops!
Hey! What did the hotel ever do to you!
:P
fair enough. but i watched both on tv. i bet all gp's that you visit in person are really enjoyable.
i'd have enjoyed abu dhabi if i'd have gone there.
"madness. silverstone was so much more enjoyable than bahrain, how is that possible?"
Errrr...
Were you there?....
Oh so that's why you haven't shouted at me yet. Phew!
no.
Uh oh. What's it done now?
can i recommend you don't.
trust me.
This is from a TV perspective - I am sure the event itself was way better! Camera work did not help!
I think people see silverstone though rose tinted glasses...
Donnington would have been a better venue, it just went about doing it in the wrong way
Nothing too bad, but Katherine is trying to get her blog into shape and we're plugging in this and wigiting that. And it's all kinda going a bit mad ;) But we're working on it :)
not me.
i just see it as a better race than bahrain.
"fair enough. but i watched both on tv. i bet all gp's that you visit in person are really enjoyable.
i'd have enjoyed abu dhabi if i'd have gone there."
And don't forget that you HAVE BEEN in the past to Silverstone...
I promise that you'd enjoy any race on the TV if you'd been there before as you have the taste and feel of the event and can add the colour that you miss when you only have the TV and can't fill in the gaps....
Self-hosted I mean...
Oh dear... i dont think i will mind so much when i am over there ;)
we may need a screenshot showing us your domain :)
to fly from here to Bahrain costs $300 less than I spent on my flights to London. I'd rather pay the extra, go to Europe and do (almost) any of the races there than bother with Bahrain.
Looked like a melted, over decorated Xmas tree - Singapore with it lights worked Abu Dhabi did not (on TV that is)
last year? when we froze to death and nearly died the subsequent week?
you are crazy if you think i enjoyed the race this year because of that.
Silverstone tried to kill me. I am not a fan.
I went to Singapore last year and didn't really enjoy it this year.
interesting. singapore looked more gorgeous, i agree.
i loved the heli-short over the river.
i fundamentally disagree.
the bahrain race was just a shocker. same as abu dhabi and valencia. all rubbish races in 2009.
I do think that it's got to be very hard to judge what a race was like objectively if you were in a mix of tv and being there.
It seems to me to be pretty clear that you are much more likely to be influenced by attending to vote in favour of the newer much better facilities. But the facilities are nothing to do with the racing.
I haven't been to any races or any tracks. And I have to say Abu Dhabi was less exciting than other races, not the objectively the worst necessarily, but given the championship was over it was the worst - in my opinion.
Clearly the best four races ever are the three I attended and the Japanese GP of 2005 ;)
"the bahrain race was just a shocker. same as abu dhabi and valencia. all rubbish races in 2009."
And I fundamentally disagree with you dear "me"....
We'll just have to agree to differ (except for Valencia) .....
And I do think it shows what a slave your view can be to the tv coverage....
Did not translate well to TV - I think the architecture overwhelms in terms of size but it has little actually structure - sort of building blobs. Honestly I can say I enjoyed Valencia more!
I think Valencia was truely rubbish.
Bahrain and silverstone were both average, although i think the racing at bahrain was marginaly better,
AD i liked, but i am biased.
But most of the rqaces this year apart from Brazil werent all that brilliant in terms of close racing.
Everyone laughed whrn the guy from the OWG blamed the tracks, the cars are mostly at fault.
They should try the slit rear wing sooner rather than later...
of course. but isn't everyone's (except rich people who can afford to go to several)?
you're judging me for being like millions of others?
hmmm.. i wonder why?
"I do think that it's got to be very hard to judge what a race was like objectively if you were in a mix of tv and being there.
It seems to me to be pretty clear that you are much more likely to be influenced by attending to vote in favour of the newer much better facilities. But the facilities are nothing to do with the racing."
Rubbish...
Probably my favourite tracks are Spa... and Interlagos....
The former does have a few new facilities on the Corporate side but not for the punters ... but Interlagos has neither....
I thought they got camera angles better at Valencia this year.
I have only ever watched races on TV coverage... I know i miss some stuff, but i dont feel like i am missing out any more than somone limited to a grandstand
ok. top 5 worst races of the year. worst to... least worst.
1) abu dhabi
2) valencia
3) bahrain
4) malaysia
5) hungary
didn't you say you have been to every circuit on this year's calendar at least once? 99.9% of fans would never get the chance to do that, even to go to one circuit is beyond some peoples wildest dreams. The TV coverage should be what they are judged on, it's all lots of people have.
doomed to failure and utterly pointless.
why would they, it's already been proven not to work?
I think that would be my order - Malaysia was pretty rubbish.
It's almost impossible to judge the race from TV as you can only see one thing... the guys the camera is following...
At the track you see every car, every lap... you have the TV feed via big screen or Kangaroo AND can go in car with your favourite driver if you wish... plus you have timing stats via Kanga as well....
Oh and as to facilities Monza have the worst loos by far....
you can blame bernie for a lot of that. but it was what it was.
Its been proven by people who were instructed to prove it wouldnt work.
I suspect it could if it was tried
Bump Hungary up to 4th and add Monaco at 5th.
then i'll just sit quietly shall i?
Do we want even more ugly cars! I just think we need more Nick Heidfeld clones on the track!
And afternoon all, can't feel hands again, I just spent 80 minutes on a football pitch doing nothing.
i had no idea you had such a depth of experience when it came to matters of aerodynamics.
i bow down to your vast knowledge and experience in these matters sir.
Without TV and its revenue there would be no F1!
Monaco has good scenery and the best marshalling!
My logic says if the status quo doesnt work, make changes.
"didn't you say you have been to every circuit on this year's calendar at least once? 99.9% of fans would never get the chance to do that, even to go to one circuit is beyond some peoples wildest dreams. The TV coverage should be what they are judged on, it's all lots of people have."
I know I am lucky Amy...
But if you just go on TV and not at least some of the stats and the other stuff you are then judging the TV coverage NOT the race...
We should get the TV to do a better job if they don't portray the "as there" feeling appropriately....
It seems you feel they did a good job at Silverstone which to my view was a very so, so affair.... they should do better elsewhere....
Team McLaren are going #MFC. The November issue of Racing Line is the last one they will be publishing. This makes me sad because I bet the price of membership won't go down and the replacement 'new website' probably won't be worth as much to me, considering they try and say RL is worth 6 pound per issue or something outrageous like that.
Are we talking about worst race in terms of quality, or worst race to attend?
on the plus side, you will get the information the same day as everyone else.
i'm talking about enjoyment factor this year. not sure about anyone else though.
Blimey. You may have just wiped out our entire archives with that then.
Good show!
If costs are a concern they could try it in GP2...
Im surprised they dont use the series for more rule experiments into overtaking...
"then i'll just sit quietly shall i?"
Oh me... is that possible?...
Only jesting...
I am just making the point about writing some of these races and locations off on the basis of the limited evidence...
Given that Bahrain DID have more overtaking than Silverstone and I certainly saw a lot of interesting action being there ... somehow the TV guys need to get that across to everyone....
Why did you rate Silverstone so highly?... the Trulli train was in great operation there this year....
I am interested in why you got the better impression of the race....
Thats what I'm basing it on.
I really, really loved Singapore. And then I got home and watched the TV coverage of it and thought 'wow, that was actually really boring, I can't believe my perspective being there was so different' and my seats weren't exactly brilliant, I saw no 'racing' from where I was sat. I didn't have a Kangaroo TV either. So the TV pictures at the circuit seemed better to me than they did at home. Atmosphere can do a lot to make it seem like the racing is better.
i knew we were wasting our time.
In terms of enjoyment, i enjoyed them all apart from valencia.
Brazil was the best by far, but the rest could defiantly be a lot better
It might be the most expensive to attend.
I think part of it is that there seemed to be something going on as well as the overtaking - Nothing seemed to happen in Abu Dhabi!
Their 'cutting room floor' section which says "in a new regular section, McLaren.com shares with you the images that didn't make the magazine." has been updated once since it launched in 2008. I do not hold out much hope of getting information from McLaren more than once a year :D
I enjoyed China, though that might have been down to the rain. Australia was very good, so was Italy.
gp2 isn't a play thing for f1?
the split wing idea was dumb from the second it was suggested, i see no merit in ever considering it again.
Thats one way to watch it, i still think i would prefer to watch on TV.
Practice was good to watch at the track, but i am more than happy to watch the races on TV... especialy in a pub
it's not limited evidence.
attending a race and then judging it that way is though, because only 50k people can judge it the same way.
I dont know what it is... Its supposed to be the direct feeder series, recent evidence suggests this isnt so, so i dont see too many problems in using it for experiments.
Ok... that was an example, it just seems strange they arent doing anything at all other than talking
there was plenty of action through the field. vettel was on another planet, but webber had a huge fight on his hands in the first part. jenson had his first big major wobble of the year and rubens kept things exciting. i don't remember everything that happened, but i do know in bahrain i spent 90 minutes wishing vettel would do something... anything... yet he didn't. everyone else seemed to sit where the started except for toyota who went backwards.
i agree. but you picked the worst possible example there.
It was the car, not the driver.
According to this http://www.cliptheapex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=822#wrap Valencia had 0 overtakes year.
The circuit is ugly, the city around the circuit is really really ugly and there was no one there.
Other than the joy of the winner, which was awesome seeing Rubens win again, i genuinly cant see how it was better than Abu Dhabi....
But fair enough, i know a lot of people like to
Perhaps, but it was radical. But I dont think making small changes is going to help
"it's not limited evidence.
attending a race and then judging it that way is though, because only 50k people can judge it the same way."
OK...
So if there was a fantastic race with loads of overtaking, but it all happened down the pack because the top cars were way out in front, as they had superiority and that was what they spent most of the TV time on.... would that be a rubbish race and a rubbish circuit?...
Don't forget this all kicked off because of criticism of the newer circuits....
And the idea that the live audience and experience isn't important and only TV matters hadn't ever occurred to me...
I have no faith in any changes any more. Last time they changed things, we ended up with fugly cars and this season. Boo.
6 still isn't all the ring home about.
there was a live audience in bahrain? i didn't see a crowd all weekend.
This is true... and perhaps raises another point... Perhaps too many of the drivers today arent brave enough to attempt risky moves?
The costs of getting to F1 are so high they are taught to avoid the moves which we may have seen in the past?
Perhaps because Kobyashi has come in a different route, he seems to be a revelation?
there was a brilliant battle between lewis and rubens, wasn't there? it was touch and go until the last quarter of the race.
i'm not defending the place or the race particularly. but it was better than abu dhabi.
No, but its 6 more than 0
There was a battle... that is true.
*imagines Valencia with no refueling*
*shudders*
"there was a live audience in bahrain? i didn't see a crowd all weekend."
No you are right...
I was just have delusions....
One of the really nice things about Bahrain was the delightful "Day out" feeling that everyone attending had... it was a great social occasion and after the race behind the main grandstand was packed with people chatting and laughing... there wasn't the usual mass exodus...
They also put on lots of entertainment for people who attended...
Of course not like the tons of folks at Silverstone I agree but there was still a crowd to push through.... and do crowds make for better TV?....
that's different argument. i still don't think banning refuelling is a good idea. but i look forward to being proved wrong.
Pleeeeeease let us be wrong.
I still think the close on the track stuff between button and webber was far better than who would come out of the pits first though. Then we didnt even get to see that
By the way, I did the Nurburgring endurance event on Forza 3 last night. 187kms = 9 laps of the old Nordscheleife in the Acura LMP1. Ended up winning by over just over 4 1/2 minutes with a best lap of 6'12. Was knackered after that.
"i'm not defending the place or the race particularly. but it was better than abu dhabi."
So the pitstop strategy between Brawn and Macca in Valencia was more interesting than the overtaking in Abu?....
Everyone is entitled to their opinion....
Yes there were zero overtakes there ;)
i'm sure they did. and the hotels in abu dhabi were lovely. and that's great for everyone who goes, but i didn't and i can't.
empty seats are embarrassing on tv. which is why bernie tries so hard to make sure they are not seen.
it doesn't look good for the sport.
in all due respect, debating abu dhabi with you is a pointless endeavour :)
i can't believe i got sucked into it again!
you really missed out. without on track entertainment, how can you live the joy that is eddie and the robbers? :D :D
:lolhehehe:
I did confess to being a little biased this time ;)
i wasn't even watching properly by the end of the race. i just wanted the boredom to be over. the whole weekend was dull as dishwater and two laps of action in the dying minutes cannot make up for that.
sorry, but abu dhabi was a disaster in terms of racing.
hehe :P
just found this: http://twitpic.com/pmjgs its the first computer i ever used. we still have the disks for it!
:P
retro!
It looks enormous!
I just went looking for my video of them to upload so you could live the joy. But it's on my other laptop with the non functional screen. You got lucky this time.
Indeed, it ran MS Dos. so that tells you how old it is ;)
I should have checked if they were playing in Dubai the other week...
"They also put on lots of entertainment for people who attended...
i'm sure they did. and the hotels in abu dhabi were lovely. and that's great for everyone who goes, but i didn't and i can't.
and do crowds make for better TV?....
empty seats are embarrassing on tv. which is why bernie tries so hard to make sure they are not seen.
it doesn't look good for the sport."
Me...
You said no-one was in Bahrain...
I explained that you were mistaken although I agreed there were a lot less than Silverstone....
You have said that Bahrain was rubbish as was Abu Dhabi... and that you preferred the nil passes of Valencia...
I can't agree and can only say that your view is coloured by the coverage....
You say that only TV really counts.....
And I say if that is so why do crowds matter...
But more particularly I said that TV should do a better job with some races...
I am sorry that you feel that there is no room for that idea....
I
Morning. Er. Afternoon. Wine makes me sleep.
indeed. Eddie Jordan is the Godfather of Corporate Punk.
You might be right on this.
Where does it say only TV matters?
I have been told his autobiography is really good... I shall have to test this theory at some point
Disagree. If we are comparing looks (not racing), Abu Dhabi wins by a big margin for me. I have no idea how to fix the racing though.
i know i saw empty seats, lots of empty seats on the television. maybe from the ground it looked busy to you. it wasn't.
if i recall, i said the worst races were:
1) abu dhabi
2) valencia
3) bahrain
i did not?
Is it 7pm yet?
i agree abu dhabi has the best architecture of any race track.
and i love the hotel i really do. i want a house that changes colour too.
Ah there is a debrief?
Neeeearly.
Well, actually, no.
I was wondering how anyone gets any sleep in it... It must have really good curtains!
Nope.
Noooo, Doctor Who! The TV highlight since... well, the last Dr Who!!
Ah yes Top Gear starts this week!
Nope.
I thought it looked cheap and gimmicky on TV
oh...
♥ Scott.
I dont think i have ever seen a cheaper looking building...
it looked nice in the photographs.
the chequered flag was just silly. how can they not have any white bulbs?
I know someone who reported the exact same thing about Barcelona a year or two ago.
"Where does it say only TV matters?"
Hi Christine
I took it from the following "me" comment when I said to judge a track and race from TV only effectively does it a dis-service....
"it's not limited evidence.
attending a race and then judging it that way is though, because only 50k people can judge it the same way."
I took that to imply that the only way to judge a race was from the televised perspective....
Ah... well if i am not around when the daily lands... i cant read it! :P
#sorry I do read it most days!
No, it implies that you can't judge it solely one way or the other. You're judging it from being there, we're judging it from TV. They are both valid opinions.
Well I really did not see the point of the hotel - the circuit it does not know whether it was a race track or a street track. I think it was the dullest race I have ever seen on TV.
Um. What?
I say a city evening skyline beats an LED hotel any time of the night (or day, for that matter).
Hi everyone. The weekend is ending too soon.
I feel like I get shunned when I tell people I just can't get into Dr Who, so I am glad I will be sleeping when you are all talking about it :D
It seems to produce useless drivers... the only decent graduate recently has been kobyashi and that series made him look rubbish.
It doesnt seem all that suprising that Red Bull have given up on it and started bringing its drivers through other series...
"I thought it looked cheap and gimmicky on TV"
I understand that because when I got back I did wonder how you could get such a different view when watching it on the screen to actually being there...
And probably the biggest disparity I have ever felt is watching Abu on TV....
It came across as bland and santised whilst being there was not like that at all....
If TV could get that fixed it would be fantastic!....
No different to Valencia without refuelling. A long drawn out string of cars.
Kubica crashed out of the rally. Don't know how good he was doing before. Sorry :(
I am with you on this...
You do have point with some photos - I just did not like - the buildings they were featureless blobs other than the lights - so what you have a hotel that has too much flashing lights.
I didn't know he was in a rally! How exciting!
I say an awesome sunset beats a city skline you cant see because they wrapped the circuit in ugly concrete barriers
I blame the fact that as a kid I was literally scared of the theme tune. I used to run out of the room if it started because it was scary music. I don't think I've gotten over that fear. And if you can't get past the theme, how can you get into a show?
Well, they got 1 hit - Vettel. And that's a heck of a lot better than many other academies that existed (except for the French Elf Academy of the 70s, of course - but they were just on another level)
i'd agree with that.
Your first computer had disks? Mine had tapes.
I am still annoyed i havent had a chance to watch the BBC coverage :(
I dont see why i shouldnt be able to download it
I'm amazed you kept it!
i insist you do, else you're not the same as christine and that's just not right.
Refueling gave us *drama* this year...
Singapore is pretty, has support and has potential to be decent, but needs major track revisions.
I just can't see Valencia or Abu Dhabi getting to that level somehow.
"No, it implies that you can't judge it solely one way or the other. You're judging it from being there, we're judging it from TV. They are both valid opinions."
Good...
However I still think TV can go a lot further to get the actual race activity across....
Maybe HD will be a start....
I think I'll also market "Eau de Paddock" to spray around liberally whilst watching...
It would, of course, be different for every race although the rubber and oil undertones wouldn't vary....
Not sure what you mean? I saw at least 3 camera views showing the evening skyline (usually down the back straight), a view from the ground of the track facing The Fullerton Hotel, another view facing the Sling and City Hall, plus more than a few views of the Flyer.
Yeah same here! Pfft!
i have faith. i thought they would flatten too many bumps, but they didn't.
To me Singapore had contrasts and flavours with backdrops and and fore-drops like going past the river made really nice shots. Abu Dhabi was over the top and cheesesy at the same time. Looks an absolutely ghastly place. I can see going to Singapore but never to Abu Dhabi.
She doesn't like Harry Potter either.
i would buy that :)
next you'll be telling me I have to read/watch Harry Potter. I refuse!
I think that's the major downside to Singapore - they can only do so much with the existing roads. I think they can revise the roads the circuit takes (ala Long Beach), but I'm not sure how willing they are to do that.
indeed so! :D
#sameperson
I think i annoyed people when i said this last time...
But i just dont get what he is doing/ what he is supposed to be doing/ what the story is
Oh. Put this before my last comment then: Kubica is taking part in Sicily's Rally Taormina-Messina this weekend. He will be driving a Renault Clio R3.
:D :D
How nice of him to start promoting Renault before his contract even begins! ;)
:D
#sameperson
I know that he sometimes looks different and when that happens he gets a new scarf. Dr Who scarves are very long. I have knitted one for a friend. It almost killed me.
Well he was dumped by BMW and Fernando has already visited the Ferrari home.
I couldn't really see a skyline though.
Abu Dhabi had a sunset.
i still insist you stay up and watch it.
I don't think you annoyed anyone, although your argument was a bit weird because you were fine with LOST but thought Doctor Who was confusing.
I remember they showed more than a few shots of it generously throughout the weekend.
Abu Dhabi's sunset was great, the architecture besides the hotel not so much...
I may be easily swayed with some things, but once I decide I don't like a TV show/film/book I will never NEVER go near it. Never. Ever.
Special dude goes in blue box, does timey wimey stuff, fights badeys, falls for woman, then fights big bad enemy.
Whats not to get! :P
That wasn't was was said though. You suggested it wasn't acting as a feeder series by getting drivers into F1, when clearly it is. Drivers are getting hired from GP2. Whether they are good or not is a different argument :-)
has he travelled to dubai yet?
err, "with"
Oh that was nice - pity about the boring track and tinsel like blob shaped buildings.
He has.
Poor you!
I don't get why the baddies (or what I assume are the baddies) are little robots that remind me of R2D2. He ain't scary! He just bleep-boop-bleeps!
Tere are some periods of history that even the doctor cannot change. abu Dhabi is one of them.
Brilliant comment. :D
you know they make dr. who in colour now, don't you?
Rose put her hands on a Dalek and IT AWOKE EVERY DALEK IN THE UNIVERSE.
Madness.
:D
:D
:D
:D
she's not Rose. She's Billie 'do you have a girlfriend? you're looking real cool, can I have your number?' Piper. Cannot take her seriously as an actress.
Just like Marky Mark. Everytime I see him in something, I'm like 'ooh where's the Funky Bunch?'
Its a piece of history. I want to boot it up but it apparently needs a disk (which I don't know) and I don't have a non-USB keyboard.
Like Bruce Willis in Friends or Barbara Windsor in Eastenders.
has he?
I think you can follow the rally here
I too am just a love machine.
Planet of the Dead was filmed in Dubai.
i like that you are prepared to believe waking one dalek will wake all of them in whole universe, but you aren't prepared to believe billie became an adult.
Ah of course. I was thinking there was an actual story in Dubai.
I can knit a Dalek. http://www.entropyhouse.com/penwiper/who/extermaknit.html I cannot knit a Billie. I just learned that her pop career was more successful in New Zealand than it was in England. God, the 90s were so good.
I get that... But Why!!!!
Why not!! if I had a blue box that could fly through space, fight robotic dudes and get into awkward situations, I'd film it for the BBC too!
Looks like The Wombles had a great party last night
:)
which reminds me, I wasn't here when it happened but I heartily approve of Christine's dancing to Miami. Fantastic song.
Wouldnt you be tempted to just go forward in time and watch yourdelf do it instead?
I wonder why as well sometimes. then I remember David Tennant and I suddenly don't care ;)
Bienvenido a Miami! :D
you know who is better than this Dr guy? Super Womble. He can fly, he can swim, he's a hero, he's got X-ray sight!
I think I would go back in time and warn the world of Michael Schumacher myself
my flatmate from 2006 texts me that almost every time she goes drinking.
Hah! Found it. Kubica was 9th (of 73) on ss1 and 17th on ss2. He crashed out of ss3 (of 8). Not bad, besides the crashing of course.
Lunchtime... soup I think.
:D :D
That doesnt bode well for the start of his renault career!
The only allowable Will Smith song is Summertime by Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. I'll accept Boom Shake the Room when very drunk.
Didn't he used to talk about a wiki? Wiki wiki.. He was ahead of his time.
"His muscles make you envy him, his speed is super quick, he's so good looking it really makes you sick"- Seems to me this could apply to both :)
gosh now you've got me listening to Wombles songs on youtube to erase the pain of my parents "losing" their Wombles LP. It was my favourite as a child. Then it disappeared. It's 1am, and I should be sleeping but this is way better. I still know all the words!
:D
now here's a pic of a man I never thought would go anywhere near NASCAR:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80161
a couple more hours and you can watch dr. who.
I'm trying to imagine a Trulli Train in NASCAR.
you should also accept Will 2K from the album Willennium. If that's not a pun and a half, I don't know what is.
you'll never win
Oh god I can see it now
'Trulli loses NASCAR drive, blames Sutil'
spookily he also talks of Miami..
"Absolutely not," said Trulli. "I have no business in Europe apart from the vineyard that my father runs. Racing is racing. We travel a lot around the world, I like living in the US, I have already an apartment in Miami, so that's never been a problem to think about my career.
we shall ;)
i think live commenting will be done in here so you may have no choice :P
It's not as if they do it every week already. ;) Mind you, if Trulli tried it, someone would probably end up wrecking him... :D
Yeah but think about it... he's already shown he can bad mouth people and start fights with the helmets on - and he is capable of leading a long line... so why not???
I will be asleep by then!
'Sutil is set to turn his back on F1 and join NASCAR'
A lot harder to acheive on an oval..
But he should be set up nicely for 2010 wherever he lands, he's already got lots of experience of driving with heavy tanks
I think he should just give in and admit his desire to become a train driver
#forChristine
Rob Alert: (well Rob, Felipe and Fernando) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fasterinside/4105980318/
"Just don't go in that car. It's been jinxed by Luca and Giancarlo"
I watched Cars after work, and I read through the comments. I appreciated the first mention of PEET STOP being tagged #forAmy :D
And now, I actually shall go to bed and have happy dreams that it's finally Pearl Jam week!
The three amigos.
Night!
Odd man out?
Byeee.
Three's a crowd? And all other similar cliches. ;)
it made me really happy seeing all three of them.
Felipe and Fernando http://www.flickr.com/photos/fasterinside/4105980540/
I don't think there will be any problems between them next year.
Rob is saying (whilst protecting his more vunerable areas)...
"You can have this nice little corner of the garage Fernando... where you can sit quietly and not get in Felipe's way".....
hehe night!
Night
Rob: I might be smiling now Fernando, but you see that front tyre? I am personally going to ensure it has a pin in front of it at every single race.... every single one.
Why is everyone so sure Rob and Felipe are out to get Fernando?
I blame Ron Dennis myself
Night Amy. :)
(see Nurburgring 2007)
"Why is everyone so sure Rob and Felipe are out to get Fernando?"
Do unto others as they are certainly going to do to you...
But do it first....
I saw it ;) racing incident. They will get on fine.
Why wouldnt they... he seems really easy to wind up...
I am having a productive afternoon... I'm half way through Rock Band Beatles edition on Medium. It suggested I should take a break, but I Feel Fine!
They seem to differ, as you would've seen at the post-race blue room...
The only shred of evidence that tells me they could get on well is Alonso picking Massa over Hamilton. Common hatred does not kinship make. ;)
It suggested you take a break?
I knew rock band/ guitar hero werent real games!
He's a passionate racing driver and will voice his opinion. I just think people are unfair on Fernando.
We know who will have the most poles. I still am trying to organize the info for my analysis - that Truli out-qualifies compares to his race pace is such an under-statement. No wonder the Trului train is another variable used in the team strategies.
Just don't keep playing until the early hours of the morning or you'll be thinking 'Here Comes the Sun!' I'm not surprised you're doing well, I Should Have Known Better
"I just think people are unfair on Fernando"
Or vice versa.....
Damn, now I want to play it.
It was Felipe that got worked up about the incident because of some damage to both cars as result of Fernando overtaking him.
I think hes arrogant, and crumbles at the prospect of partnering a strong teammate.
Not a great deal of evidence to support that, and i am sure he has had a sports psychologist help him to get him ready to take on felipe, but next year should be interesting...
A lot of racing drivers are arrogant, but I think that this time he knows what he is getting into Re: his teammate.
Now that the clock for Sidepodfilmclub is redundant, any thoughts on what we can fill the Factbyte Factbox with during the off season?
Does he? ...Rob is good, i think he will be working him over already.
I think Lewis is arrogant at times but then so are many racing drivers. Only two races should "crumbling" USA and Canada, being fed up stuck right behind his team mate when he was faster and Canada when he tried to get past Lewis but it backfired.
If Fernando hadn't have done that and sat in second he would have been champion in 2007.
Clock to Dr Who?
Clock to Bahrain?
Clock to Christmas?
Rockall weather?
A count of how many people ask 'Is it nearly Bahrain?'
Clock to the Christmas party, or to Christmas itself. ;)
I could do that when i get to Dubai... Its nearly Bahrain, but slightly different ;)
One think everyone said that Fernado was not prepared to have Kovy as a team mate. He must have a weaker driver to show his talent. He is now teaming up with Felipe. Now IF Felipe returns to his original form Fernando is going to have a torrid time. Over the last three seasons Felipe has scored more points per race than any other driver (if you standardise and compare only races he drove in). I wonder if there is no a tougher team mate to have.
Sorry I don't follow?
And who is Anando's engineer anyway?
Getting in his head?
Thats only a rumor though, I think Kovy went the other way as part of the deal.
You think so?
I would guess it's della Serra, Kimi's 2009 engineer.
2007 was a lesson for Fernando, he is more prepared for any "games".
hehe. that's akin to being scared of the dark isn't it.
I'm more worried about Massa starting a fight than Fernando
I bring F109 Game goodies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xLyYT8a2eY (Quali at Singapore)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxpPtZAJoZo&feature=channel (Button at Silverstone)
Singapore looks beautiful.
YAY at being able tow atch sessions!! :)
Hoping the steering isn't over sensitive with the wiimote though. Button video makes me wonder if it is...
Hehehehe at Sutil's exit from the pitlane on the Qualifying video...
Watching it all the way through, I was thinking, who is going to be the first person to do a Piquet at Singapore?
He was 9 seconds off the pace...
...and STILL faster than Piquet
I need a wii :(
Ah, cheers.
I'm not a fan of the engine sound.. and it looks very sensitive unless the driver is hopeless!
Watching Licence to Le Mans on Dave. All about Lord Drayson racing in the ALMS.
Just to put into perspective, the official all time lap record around the old 'Ring was set by Stefan Bellof in 1983 - 6'11.
*puts on pinger hat*
http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/15/things-i-learnt-from-watching-franck/
what happened to the pinger?
It's only half 4? Cmon time. Hurry up :(
It must be sulking.
I think I've found what Mr C's day job is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00n51fs/Gigglebiz_Episode_20/
Look out for the Rapids Johnson segment :)
Two and half hours!! :D
Just don't take any overtaking lessons from him, Scott...
#DoctorWho
I might've posted it last week, I'm not sure, but I've been watching Dr Who videos after reading Christine's blog post and it ended up in me going back to watching the Tom Baker/Jon Culshaw interview :D
Also, new look for STYA! Awesome!
Hehe, yup, still tweaking it, but it's getting there.
Am quite excited by the prospect of old Whos on YouTube.
Since Mrs C is abroad with work until Friday, I'd been considering devoting one evening this week to a viewing of my DVD of Dalek Invasion of Earth. Or is that a sad and unproductive use of time?
Everyone should be allowed one Doctor Who evening a week, I say.
of course it isn't. How else are you going to get ideas to prepare yourself for the next Dalek invasion?
Hey all btw
Is the first episode on there?
The iPlayer contibutes greatly towards this for me :P
Oh yes. I had to watch the desert one recently to make sure I was prepared for today.
*is not here*
hehe you guys sound as excited about Dr Who this evening as Emily is, she seems to be counting down until it's on. i on the other hand, whilst being excited am ploughing through work :(
emily stole my laptop last night! that was me.. not here
Emily exists in the 4th person?
Anyone got a fave 'old Who' yarn? Partial to the Caves of Androzani myself; Robots of Death would be better if you couldn't see the Marigold logos on the robots' gloves.
i'd forgotten she'd been using my laptop to comment last night.. silly me.
!!
:)
I am ashamed to say I've only seen the new series and the Dr who movie. I have seen clips of older episodes though. Blink was very good, as was Turn Left.
hehe, how was the film last night? did it go better than the previous attempt?
afternoon all.
I've never seen Dr. Who, so I'm not excited about today (not living in the UK is probably the reason ;-) ). I hope you enjoy it!
If the old series is in you tube, where should I start?
i didn't see cars, she just used my laptop to make a few comments while i was getting ready to go out..
anyway... i'm not here... i have work to do... Christine help me!!!
i'll be back maybe for Dr Who... lol xx
Shoo!
i only saw them when ukgold used to re-run black and white episodes on a sunday morning.
i find nothing is very scary on a sunday morning :(
Rugrats terrified me sometimes as a 6 year old
With some Tom Bakers...
any recomendations?
Who in Formula 1 would make a good 'Doctor'?
Remembers Jenson button picture...
Oh I'm gonna have to dig that out now
#sorryLou
Ones from his first three seasons are good. Then Mary Whitehouse started getting a bit heavy and a new producer came in who tried to inject some 'comedy' - only really succeeded when they hired Douglas Adams as script editor.
Special effects are generally cheap and cheerless. The giant rat in Talons of Weng-Chiang spoils an otherwise excellent yarn.
Got to be Ross Brawn. Same knowledge of everything that's about to happen. He only needs a scarf.
I've given up looking. All I can find are clips that people have edited the special effects on to make them more realistic.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lukehmuse/4105708709/
:D
Apparantly, according to sky sports news, mclaren have interviewed nick heidfeld.
interviewed? is he going for a factory position?
These people have too much free time.
In other news, we used to have a peculiar and obscure Dr Who in-joke on F1R; if the author of a piece didn't want it to run under their byline (for whatever reason), we would credit it to Robert Holmes, who was one of the more prolific scriptwriters (he died in 1985/86, so couldn't take issue).
They may soon have some vacancies for boring Germans...
I'm very much the same. although i didn't like Eccleston that much. going to be odd to see Tennant replaced by Smith.
He's too young.
#gettingold
very nice ;)
Agreed. But I was at an interview with Steven Moffat a few weeks ago and he was saying that Matt has been amazing in filming so far
I may have gone mad, but what is STYA?
From what i've seen pic wise. he is very expressive and very doctorish. i just have a dislike for his outfit. he does look good in Tennant's gear,
http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/
Ah, ok. Never seen people abbreviate it before.
You know, I've never known what GMTV means. I know the TV bit means Television, but I've never worked out the GM
It's one M short of a disaster though
Rolled up trousers. *sobs*
:)
now this i like (spoilers) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/SspthH300hI/AAAAAAAAIkA/F63DY-y8UsE/s1600-h/who_filming_0ct5_pic2.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/SspKNU03tgI/AAAAAAAAIjw/30HvQTF9FQ8/s1600-h/jerky-spasms.jpg
I may have introduced that recently as I am quite lazy and regretting choosing such a long domain name.
Well I think Ross Brawn would make an awesome Doctor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lukehmuse/4106519204/in/set-72157622808592874/
:)
looking a lot thinner mind ;)
He got in shape for the role, fair play to him
I like the fact it might just work.
Like Stuart said, he man knows everything that's about to happen!
I may have just bought the 3 doctors on itunes...
I have successfully done nothing all day. This was not the plan but I am a lot more relaxed than I was. I've been a dozy mood. This may or may not be related to the wine last night.
Oooh, very good!
I can't believe I just did this: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/284/mosley.jpg
Fabulous!
On the other hand, now I know you can get Who on iTunes... #theregoestheharddrive
Hahahahahaha :D
:-)
He could play The Master
Since I have a mild hangover and I seem to have experience of heavier ones, I left a comment on that..
I can't look at Matt Smith in the same way now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Doctor_Who_The_Three_Doctors.jpg
I used to have the edition with this cover!
Maybe if Mr Smith isn't popular they can voice him over with Tom Baker
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Doctor_Who_The_Three_Doctors.jpg
I think I broke the doohickey
yikes!
apparently, "return of the mack" also induces baloo-esque dance moves in our house!
here i'dis.
Shut it!
Actually, it's a bit slow. It's like being Baloo in slow motion.
*runs away*
Right, I'm off to make pre-Who dinner and open pre-Who wine.
Audi-os!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFcoC1FJOhA
Scat dat daddat bap bap dodbooby doop
Indeed he could ;) http://twitpic.com/pnerp
I think I should stop now :)
Scaro'd for life, I am.
Hmm who could play Davros....
:P
groan...
:D
hehehee, a picture of Luca Di Longname getting Felipe and Alonso stuck in gravel :)
good start for Alonso...
#sorryLukeh
http://twitpic.com/png1y
ARE WE EXCITED?!?! :D :D
That's far too comfortably in how well they go together :P
hehe indeed. i really have stopped this time.
Just did the 9 lap 'Ring enduro again, this time with a setup on the Acura which I found on the Storefront. Managed to lap the entire field including the diesel R10 and 908. Best lap this time was 5'55, with lap times always between 6'00 and 6'10.
what was Fernando wearing?
we were aaaaaaaaaall thinking that too
Looks like he came for a round of golf.
Still got stuck in the bunker, mind.
Probably it's the redest thing Renault would let him wear until the end of the year. Not much better than the orange-yellow ING things...
:D
This is under the 'promotional event' rule, I guess...
anything to get Badoer away from the back of the pack!!
I see two F60's and two F2008's :D
then two were promotional, the other two were old, maybe there were also young drivers so they could use the three exceptions to the test rules in a single day ;-)
what benift do Ferrai get our testing last years car and this years which was awful?
they're ferrari, they'll find some way
aaand what i meant by that is that a formula one team as good and experience as ferrari will be able to get something from running last years car if they wanted to
:)
good to see felipe driving his car again. i hope a picture of that ends up on the big picture ;)
i wonder if anyone can get the right year for all these? http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/11/15/alonso-gets-ferrari-stuck-in-gravel-trap-in-first-appearance-for-team-pictures/ferrari_world_finals_2009-50/
oh lordy, y'all must be bored ;)
passing the time until doctor who starts ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5YA0Uq2wXM
:D
hmm. must find something to occupy you all.
MUCH better :D
Evening all
hi steven
to occupy you all until dr. who:
http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/15/farcical-front-flap-adjustments/
enjoy!
Hmm I'm starting to think my parents are aiming for dinner whilst Doctor Who is on. I think they do it intentionally sometimes :(
With just ten minutes to go, I'm worried that this Dr Who is going to be rrrrubbish. It's been built up so much and it's not quite the end one yet. Is it going to be one of those ones there just to pass the time until the real good ones?
Am I the only person here who doesn't watch Dr Who? I gave up on it years ago
not from the photos I've seen etc. I recon it won't be the best Russel T Davis has ever done, but it'll be better than the Easter one.
I found this the other day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjJRZafALsk
Nooo, don't think that!
again, as I said last time, BRILLIANT
I am not biased btw
I don't watch it also (on the other hand, I don't have access to it... :P )
anyway, a late lunch is waiting for me. see you and enjoy the show!
You are not. Amy and Nick also don't like it.
Bye Guille
Phew
See ya mate.
Evening. I'm in two minds. Some of the new era stuff is good fun and is well written, some of it I don't like at all. I will have this one on but I'm not going to be sat down watching intently.
bye
Right, I'm going to be watching the show, so I'll basically be away for an hour. See you guys later!
am being productive and blogging a lot.
ooh, Five are showing The Towering Inferno...
Doctor Whoooooooo - Doctor Who - Doctor Whoooooooooooooooooooo - The daleks
etc
from the QI elves @qikipedia
Evening all! Been on a tournof Wembley Stadium for a relative's birthday. It was really great!
he looks like Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall.
Oh phew, not the only one thinking that.
Heh!
Big innit
Lots and lots of stairs!
Why does the Aussie guy remind me of Mark Webber?
go go gadget!
I think p'raps I won't ever drink water again.
This is spoooky
s'ok, they never made their way back to earth
although maybe they do.
will get back to you
I'm not going to eat a carrot again!
:)
Good point! It all started from the pesky orange thing.
"Certain moments are fixed"
See, what did I tell you earlier about Abu Dhabi
Clearly they never listened to their parents advice....
Always boil water before you drink it..
Piquet? Singapore? :D
Hahaha :)
brilliant!
He is clearly making these places up.
I am not very good at geography, so I believe him.
I worked that out when Christopher Eccleston came up with Raxacoricofallapatorius!
I may have googled that...
Hoorah! You can now drink water again
Mark Webber guy is in cruise control now
I was gonna say!!
Gotta have big tubs of ice cream for the journey home.
he's got a serious dribbling issue
I learnt to pronounce it a few years ago, but I still can't spell it! (I got quite bored a while back...)
Hehe, me too. I can't understand why it took Billie so long.
Don't just stand there!!!!!
wasss he goonnna do!!
It's Dr Who. EVERYONE except the doctor and his assistant are idiots!
Now is not the time for giant tubs of ice cream actually
20 minutes let! Whats gonnna happen?!?
Is that the spacesuit used in the Satan's Pit and all?
Looks like it.
yup. seems like he nicked it from that story!
why doesn't he turn the radio off?
was just thinking the same thing
Mars FM isn't broadcasting I guess
I am mightelly confused
Same reason he said he was leaving about six times before he actually did, I would think.
:( :(
Ah this is the RTD moment as I call it...
HAHAHA
Woot, 4 knocks :)
We all know what that means!
...he's gone mad...
Unhinged doctor is scary!
I know!
indeeeeeeed we do. and ive seen pictures. its aaaaall true :D
Shh
i meant none of it, nothing
I quite like it though.
:P
He even has wild professor hair.
Doctor should get a job in animatronics or whatever it's called, his control is fabulous
What happened?!!!!!
YAY!
Thats it, run away in a place you don't know. Clever
I don't like the Doctor anymore :(
He's gone mad with power!!!
yes, yes you have
that was just wierd
the cloister bell!
WILF!!!!!!!!!
yesssssssssssssssssss
i love that guy
oh my goooooooooooooood.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*switches to confidential*
Ah, that was good. My fears were unfounded.
That guy (I know who he is, just avoiding spoilers here) really has changed his look.
The hoodie doesn't work for him, I fear
It was very very good! And sad :(
WILF!!!!
or the hair
I am very sad that the lovely doctor is now completely mental. But it might be easier to say goodbye to him that way.
My who-vian friend sent me pics of him in filming a few months ago
Ooh good point...
Am I the only one who likes him this way? More exciting.
Confidential to 9pm, Top Gear 'til 10. Sorted
agreed
It's interesting. You have no idea what he's going to do next!
Unhinged doctor is definitely interesting. But lovely doctor is lovely. Either way is good :)
Now I need a bath but secretly I know it's because my mind needs to chill out after being unable to comprehend 1 hour of sheer awesome.
But... so much water... I don't trust the bath!!!
You will need to keep commenting from the bath so we know you are okay!
Just stay where you are, for like forever please.
#sidepodspace update
T-23 and a half hours ish and everything is still looking good. There are no technical issues and weather at the launch sites and the trans-Atlantic abort sites is looking very good. Still 90% at the launch site. Should the launch not go ahead there is a 70% chance of good weather if there is a 24 hour turnaround.
We may see a launch go first time unbelievably although it is already a week behind its original schedule so all is well with the world.
HAH! I've just realised where the ending street was filmed!! It's a street just around the corner from work in the city centre of Newport, my mum's just come up screaming it at me :P
Of course, this is just delaying me from the water...
Don't drink it.
Don't even touch it
I just realised I'm making pasta for dinner, which also requires water.
It's 'Blink' all over again!
phone for a pizza. You're still eating italian, but no water involved!
so did everyone enjoy doctor who? :)
mmmmm
The first 40 minutes and the last 7/8 minutes of it, yes.
loved it. Much better than the Easter episode
I have blogged it, if anyone wants to leave their thoughts on what we just witnessed:
http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/11/15/immediate-thoughts-on-the-water-of-mars/
+1
what did the middle 13/12 minutes to do you?
Will do ;)
Just seemed to be the typical, 'Heroics', people saved etc. Something new please, which was given in the last 7/8 mins of it.
emily and I both <3 David Tennant!!!!
Glug glug glogoggygg glgospst tsshhhhhhh
Right, everyone, as the good doctor says himself
Run.
as do i ;)
I just re-read my comment. clearly i'm not easily pleased
Nah, that bath proved that it was actually really filmed on Mars rather than South Wales. The water was fine. Phew.
#sidepodspace
Unlike previous missions there is no single major objective for this mission but they are doing a whole load of minor tasks. Assuming the launch goes ahead tomorrow the first spacewalk will be on Friday. This spacewalk will install an antenna, lubricate the payload orbital replacement system attachment(no idea what that is yet) and do install some parts that will be left on the Japanese robotic arm to be used by the next shuttle crew on one of their spacewalks.
The second spacewalk is on Monday and they will pick the ELC2 (cargo container) from the shuttle payload bay and dock it to the ISS to be unloaded. They also have a load of minor tasks including installing ham radio equipment.
The third and final spacewalk is schedulaed for Wednesday 25th when they will again tackle multiple taks including the installation of a high pressure oxygen gas tank.
you mean you were that close to David tennant and you didn't take a photo! Lol
Fastest bath ever?
Nooo, I didnt see them. I'd have one if I new! At least half of Dr Who is filmed in Newport, the rest in Cardiff and the odd bit in London and Bristol. I've seen the trailer thingies of Catherine tate about ages ago before but never got to see the man himself :(
anyone else thinks gadget looks like walle?
I thought that
Inspector Gadget on Confidential :)
Reminds me of the robot from that other robot film... the one Wal-e is absed on... Johnny 5 i think?
hehe confidential are playing the inspector gadget theme to introduce gadget!
Short Circuit is the film I'm thinking of. I'm sure the robot's name is Johnny 5...
INPUT
Yep. Loved that film!
I'll be disappointed if we don't get to Mars by 2058, but releived if nothing happens in 2059
am having a good day blogging:
http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/15/3d-formula-one-goes-virtual-insanity/
almost Joe-esque in output :P
I LOVE THIS SONG!
which one is that then Jon?
Just joined iRacing. It's really good, but as it's only one race per hour, you get bored waiting for the next one to come along!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOEfvMMcw_A&feature=related
TUNE
might try and squeeze one more in.
How much is it and what spec computer do you need?
I joined for a month to try it out (the price changes the longer you subscribe for) and my computer is 3 and a half years old, but at the time of purchase was a bespoke games machine.
Should hopefully work on mine then :-)
I just need to buy a new wheel..
Keep us updated on whether its worth it?
Will do - it's alright so far, not the least of which because there's decent grids in each race...
Phew! Got a Dr Who related blog post on before Top Gear... :)
Oh my goodness. If you are a doctor who fan. You NEED to watch Confidential, (thats confidential not #confidential)
ITS AMAAZING
Top Gear! Wooo! :D
Is it something that can wait a week. or should i stay up and watch it tonight?
ummm. i'd watch it asap
I was watching it and I didnt notice anything new?
just looked amazing for next episode. cant wait
Romania? Erm.
DACIA SANDERO! :D
great! now...
HAHAHA! Richard's Satnav woman is hilarious :D
1..1..1..1.. :P
calling Vernon Kay!
James is getting directions! :D
Pretty much a underground Monaco.
I love how his 'decibelometer' is an iPhone app
Romanian Top Gear?
This is basically an advert for the Dacia Sandero...
what is with their love of the sandero?
I think it is irony
that was quite predictable
Heeehehehe :D
I think it needs a little more work...
Brilliant :D
James on the track again?
Twin turbo 6.0L V12? Yikes!
Indeed. good song as well :D
That is the most obviously rehersed thing EVER. i know it all is, but it was soooo scripted what he was saying
TG scripted? Surely you jest good sir
;)
Still entertaining.
Who cares if it's scripted? It's still good TV :D
nah, usually you know it is, but it was SO bad. me not like
agreed.
So? It is an entertainment show. Most entertainment shows are scripted and rehearsed.
I love eric banna
Argh... for some reason my comment jumped from thread to thread... my previous comment was supposed to be on 3D formula 1...
Sorry :(
i fix.
that be predictable
The fact that Jeremy can't do maths by putting .5 under .6?
that being a racing driver, he was going to be darn good
James has a Dacia Sandero now! :D
Or was.
did have*
Look at that road!
Hermann, are you watching?
You know in some of the driving there, they got professional drivers in wigs to do it instead?
I can believe that...
Look on YouTube, there's videos of the driving there!
Tiff Needell getting a mention on Top Gear?
Well, he did use to present it. And he is in Clarkson's new DVD with VB-H.
wwwwwha?
see. DVD. if you wanna see it, you has to buy it in actual physical form ;)
S'true.
pah.
Or you could cheat and watch it on YT.
i am almost an hour late to work. I blame the wombles.
But he is the opposition now and after barely a mention in years he gets equal billing with the Stig as the greatest authority on car performance. Is he moving back to the BBC? #GMM
Who said VB-H? You have set him off again
But they live half the world away.
oohhh dear
Tell them you worked so hard on Sunday that you slept in
Facinating program on BBC4 about a project to use atom bombs to power rockets
*sheepishly raises hand* I'll just go do some more laps of the 'Ring on Forza 3 now... *runs and hides behind a rock* :P
i havent got an angry phone call from my boss yet which normally arrives within 10 minutes of the time im meant to be there. Its not helping that luca badoer is driving this tram. Faster luca!
http://www.olganon.org/
Public transport + Badoer-style driver = UGGGHHH. I feel your pain. :(
:D haha
I do go outside, you know...
hmm ;)
Very funny.
if you want to see it again, here's the Christmas Dr Who preview :)
ehehehe. just messing, i dont think your addiction is THAT bad. they seem to have some serious issues over there ehe
Who says he's addicted? Can't someone enjoy a (bloody brilliant) game?
I'm not someone who will stay on the 360 24 hours a day out of choice. If I've nothing better to do, then yes I'll play, but if I'm invited out anywhere or just want to go to the shop or the city or whatever, then that takes priority over a game. :P
The man, he speaks the truth. :P
im just messing :)
Lies! Lies and slander! Next you'll be accusing me of being obsessed with muse.
Ludicrous.
;)
Reet, bed. School in the morning. Shall be sleeping well me thinks. Bye. lotsa love.
See ya RG!
would have put you down as more of a girls aloud fan myself
adios mon amie
My forbidden secret.....
Evening all.
hey chap.
Evening sir.
How's things? Bit of a mental day here. I've got a list of blog posts I'd planned to write. Most of them are now out of date now....
Still, good to have Top Gear back.
am good. have been blogging, am still blogging. do ya need some encouragement?
:) A little wouldn't hurt. It's MCM tomorrow after all.
I could do with another weekend to catch up with everything really.
sounds like a good plan. how much time do you have?
To Mars by A-Bomb just finished on BBC 4. It should be on the iplayer tomorrow and is worth a watch for anyone interested in space. The plan was to launch rockets by dropping baby nuclear bombs several times a second and surfing on their shockwave. Brillian idea. Mental but brilliant.
They do discuss how this could be the one technology that could stop a space rock that popped up on a collision course unexpectedly. Of course they didn't know about Bruce then.
:)
Now, about 15 mins (or until the NASCAR finishes)
But I'll probably get up early tomorrow and do a couple. I want to blog about the ongoing Button-Brawn-Macca saga before it's too late.
You and Christine planning on going to any of the pre-season tests? I'm thinking about it as the flights to Seville for Jerez are silly cheap. Not sure I could swing a paddock pass though but it's got to be worth a shout.
Thinking of doing the first Jerez one if I can as with the limited testing I'd think there'd be a fair few car launches.
not looking that far ahead at the moment. will likely try and cover any uk straight-line test though.
Trying to be a bit more organised this year, been meaning to go for a couple of years, now F1TP's up and running I've got an excuse to go (Or that's what I'm telling myself)
I'm gonna head off for the night. See ya guys.
night lukeh.
Right, that race is done and it's my cue to hit the sack.
Goodnight all, sleep well the lot of 'ya!
I'll drop by tomorrow if I get chance.
Im thinking of trying to get to an F2 test in espania. that would be cool
adios!
I have just moved my computer desk to a different position. More space created in the living room. Although I ought to have started my revising.
Am brain storming here. So please work with me.
If you think about the motorsport industry and split it down into areas, as big or as small as you want?
So, PR coudl be one, media could be another.
also, what do those chucks really entail?
any help is appreciated. ta
not really sure i understand
Imagine doing a big old mind map, or thought shower, or whatever you call it...
with motorsport in the middle....the things coming off it are differnet areas in the industry...
so
Engineering - Motorsport - Pr
but more indepth.
Commercial (sponsorship etc)
Media etc. - Specialist press, mainstream reporters, TV
I liked this from Peter @Serafinowicz
"What comes after the Credit Crunch? (via @robcmorgan) The delicious Credit Caramel Centre."
The major ones:
1. Chassis production
2. Engine production
3. Electronics/telemetry
4. R&D (Windtunnel/CFD)
5. PR/Marketing
The minor (niche) ones:
5. Logistics (Catering/Offices)
6. Administration (HR/Finance/Legal)
Perhaps I'd move PR/Marketing here. :D
really?!
It's minor in that you don't really need motorsport-specific specialists to do this, I think; you can get anyone from the PR/Marketing industry (regardless of previous industry of work) and you'll be fine.
ah ok, fair point.
I need help: I'm trying to reply to this comment.
I have this so far:
@ michael E
The problem is that you have to pay that agency if you want those shiny news stories on your page but that agency keeps all the money to itself without reimbursing their sources.
And on a side-note: On quite a few articles they got the translation from the foreign source wrong at least the ones from German and Finnish sources. Another thing is if you read an article and you see the source is The Sun or another tabloid you won't take it to seriously (at least I hope you won't) but do you know if for example Iltasanomat is a reliable newspaper? So 'news' from this Finnish tabloid suddenly gets spread all over the world and taken as fact when in reality it was just something someone made up to see his name printed.
Is that factual correct? Especially the first part.
And does it make sense?
agreed.
very good point.
yes.
thanks. (and sorry I seem to live in the past :) )