The daily thread is an entire year old now, and we would have missed it if it hadn't been for RG's eagle eyes. Check out the celebratory blog post here, and let us know what you think of the good ol' daily. Meanwhile, here are some other things we're talking about:

  • It was time for a bit of Friday Fun yesterday, and although the name does kind of tie the game to a specific day, there aren't really any rules on that. If you haven't had a go already, let us know your mix and match drivers - which bits of which drivers would you take to make the perfect guy?
  • We also pointed you in the direction of the latest goings on at Red Bull, namely a chance to have your say in some awards, plus a look at the latest Wings for Life charity auction. There's not much I would be willing to bid on in the auction, but it's definitely worth having a look, even if you haven't got a penny to part with.
  • Don't forget that it is the second Sidepodfilmclub evening tonight with the chosen film the Disney/Pixar great Cars. We hope to see you around in the comments ahead of the film starting at 8pm. It should be great!

That'll do it for now. Thank goodness for the weekend, as yesterday was Friday 13th. I wondered where all the bad luck was coming from and then I looked at a calendar. Anyway, today is a new day, and I will see you in the comments.

1300 responses

  • RG14/11/2009 at 00:04

    Ooooh, forgot about Cars tonight.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:05

    Am I glad to be rid of the 13th. I'm not in the slightest bit superstitious but that day had it in for me, I'm sure of it.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:07

    I have a sudden urge to play Rollercoaster Tycoon. Where the hell is the disc?

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:08

    I have a sudden urge to play Rollercoaster Tycoon. Where the hell is the disc?

    Which one?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:11

    Which one?

    I only have the first one. In actual fact, when I get my webcam tomorrow I may pick up a later one...

  • Jordan F114/11/2009 at 00:12

    For some strange reason (No fear of tridekaophobia, I guess), I have always found Friday the 13th a wonderful day for me. I am also a fan of slapstick comedy so I gess that is also why I see a piano land on top of someone, I cannot help but laugh....

    I just of course, but isn't some special word or phase about self-forfilling phopethiss? The Idea that something bad is going to happen to you, so you try your best to make something bad happen you?

    And It is November Friday 13th, 1900 hours, EST where I currently live. So I am challenging the fates to drop a player piano on me if this Friday the 13th stuff has anything in it.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:13

    good morning all. I am missing the Christmas parade. I love Christmas parades :(

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:14

    good morning all. I am missing the Christmas parade. I love Christmas parades :(

    It's the middle of November

  • RG14/11/2009 at 00:14

    It's the middle of November

    I don't see it being December 21st yet.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:15

    It's the middle of November

    that is true. I could ask them to have another one next month when I am feeling better?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:16

    Hello

    This place feels familiar

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:16

    I only have the first one. In actual fact, when I get my webcam tomorrow I may pick up a later one...

    RCT1 is the one I always re-install. Especially the desert scenario on loopy landscapes disk that disables money and just lets you build rides until the excitement dips below 700.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:17

    Mr Clapper I presume

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:17

    Mr Clapper I presume

    :D

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:17

    This place feels familiar

    i see the name, but is it a dream?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:17

    This place feels familiar

    howdy stranger

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:18

    howdy stranger

    Yeah, definitely ringing bells now ;)

  • RG14/11/2009 at 00:19

    This place feels familiar

    Aaah, Bassano. Um, hi.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:19

    Hi Amy and Bassano

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:19

    oh and Jordan and Andy

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:19

    Hi Amy and Bassano

    Sent you an email Pat

    Received funds with thanks

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:20

    I missed a SidepodPub event!

    :( :( :(

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:20

    Sent you an email Pat

    Yep I just replied, thanks.

  • Jordan F114/11/2009 at 00:21

    Radar painting a blip at 20 miles, safeties off .... IFF confirming BC... standing down.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:22

    I missed a SidepodPub event!

    Could have been worse. You could have missed Nick's flying lesson from the balcony

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:22

    I missed a SidepodPub event!

    your liver thanks you :)

  • Jordan F114/11/2009 at 00:22

    Greetings.... Pat.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:24

    your liver thanks you :)

    This is true, it's had a hard month

    Could have been worse. You could have missed Nick's flying lesson from the balcony

    ???

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:25

    For info:

    drop.io's 1st page is about 80% spamtastic at the moment, at least 5 entries

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:25

    ???

    Alison threatend to throw him off it

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:25

    I think I am going to miss sidepodfilmwatch :(

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:26

    Alison threatend to throw him off it

    Why am I not surprised? :)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:26

    I think I am going to miss sidepodfilmwatch :(

    Ooh, there's another coming up, what and when is it?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:26

    your liver thanks you :)

    No. My liver thanks you :P

    Sorry I missed out on meeting you Bassano!

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:26

    For info:

    drop.io's 1st page is about 80% spamtastic at the moment, at least 5 entries

    Dropio is history. All you have to do now if you see a twitpic, flickr or youtube link in the doohickey is left click it and magic happens

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:27

    Ooh, there's another coming up, what and when is it?

    Cars tomorrow night

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:27

    your liver thanks you :)

    No. My liver thanks you :P

    Sorry I missed out on meeting you Bassano!

    There'll be another time

    We can motivate your liver in advance ;)

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:27

    Ooh, there's another coming up, what and when is it?

    http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/10/get-ready-for-cars/ aka right when I will be at work doing my overtime to help pay for Spa :(

  • RG14/11/2009 at 00:27

    Dropio is history. All you have to do now if you see a twitpic, flickr or youtube link in the doohickey is left click it and magic happens

    When did I miss that?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:27

    RCT1 is the one I always re-install. Especially the desert scenario on loopy landscapes disk that disables money and just lets you build rides until the excitement dips below 700.

    I don't have any of the extras. Can't even find the CD for this one. #blamethemove

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:28

    Why am I not surprised? :)

    Oi!!! The lot of you. OI!!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:28

    Cars tomorrow night

    Cars? Really?

    Hmmmm, needs A LOT of consideration then

  • RG14/11/2009 at 00:28

    Oi!!! The lot of you. OI!!

    Not said a thing.... yet.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:28

    Cars? Really?

    it has Guido and thus it's awesome.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:28

    I think I am going to miss sidepodfilmwatch :(

    I will as well.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:29

    Oi!!! The lot of you. OI!!

    I just mean, you and Nick have a propensity to have differing opinions... quite often ;)

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:29

    Dropio is history. All you have to do now if you see a twitpic, flickr or youtube link in the doohickey is left click it and magic happens

    Try left clicking this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbjRFd205qo

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:29

    Alison threatend to throw him off it

    He must have done something quite bad to warrant that then

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:29

    When did I miss that?

    Wednesday, Thursday?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:30

    I just mean, you and Nick have a propensity to have differing opinions... quite often ;)

    Alex said it was like a live doohickey :-)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:30

    Try left clicking this link http://www.you...m/watch?v=MbjRFd205qo

    YouTube linkies in Desktop Doohickey - nice!

    Embedded-like pop-up goodness

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:30

    I just mean, you and Nick have a propensity to have differing opinions... quite often ;)

    To the extent Alex left the pub early

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:30

    Alex said it was like a live doohickey :-)

    Hahahaha he did? I haven't looked.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:30

    He must have done something quite bad to warrant that then

    I think it may have been breathing

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:31

    Alex said it was like a live doohickey :-)

    Sorry to have missed that, I don't think I would've won any Kofi Annan awards on the night

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:31

    I think it may have been breathing

    I resent that!!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:32

    I resent that!!

    Nick's breathing?

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:32

    Sorry to have missed that, I don't think I would've won any Kofi Annan awards on the night

    *chants*"Throw him, throw him, throw him"

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:32

    I resent that!!

    That's what I said. You resent Nick breathing

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:33

    To the extent Alex left the pub early

    Did he?? I thought he said he was in danger of leaving without them having arrived yet...

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:33

    To be fair, initially I was going to throw myself off....

  • RG14/11/2009 at 00:34

    laptop gone again, great.

    @steven right, i think i missed that, i blame revision

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:34

    Did he?? I thought he said he was in danger of leaving without them having arrived yet...

    Just work related. Although to be honest, I'm sure he'd be too polite to say otherwise :P

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:37

    @steven right, i think i missed that, i blame revision

    It was only mentioned in the comments. There has been no post on it yet because it only works with links to 4 different things and I can't remember the fourth

  • RG14/11/2009 at 00:37

    might as well sleep, night. lotsa love

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:38

    might as well sleep, night. lotsa love

    night

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:38

    night RG

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:38

    It was only mentioned in the comments. There has been no post on it yet because it only works with links to 4 different things and I can't remember the fourth

    But we'll still use the drop for some stuff though better media utilastion is a great improvement here

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:38

    Night RG

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:38

    might as well sleep, night. lotsa love

    G'night fella

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:39

    Nick's breathing?

    There is obviously no way of defending myself against this.... I give in.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:39

    There is obviously no way of defending myself against this.... I give in.

    :)

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:40

    But we'll still use the drop for some stuff though better media utilastion is a great improvement here

    It will still be used. I think Mr C is fed up pulling spam out of it

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:40

    But we'll still use the drop for some stuff though better media utilastion is a great improvement here

    The drop has gone downhill rapidly. Slower than it used to be, harder to navigate and lots more spam. So now we can reduce our reliance on it.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:40

    It will still be used. I think Mr C is fed up pulling spam out of it

    I bet

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:41

    There is obviously no way of defending myself against this.... I give in.

    That is one of them sneaky female tricks where we think we have one and ten minutes later discover we lost big time

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:41

    The drop has gone downhill rapidly. Slower than it used to be, harder to navigate and lots more spam. So now we can reduce our reliance on it.

    I'm guessing it is rather large now in it's entirety

    drop.io need better spamguard software

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:41

    I bet

    i never thought it would happen. mine hasn't, but its not something that is used like the spc drop.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:41

    That is one of them sneaky female tricks where we think we have one and ten minutes later discover we lost big time

    [keeping schtum]

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:43

    That is one of them sneaky female tricks where we think we have one and ten minutes later discover we lost big time

    Well yes. I am definitely female. It wasn't unprovoked assault. Alex also said he'd rather Nick went over than I did!

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:43

    I want to go and get a slurpee because the ice = good on my throat, but I can't be bothered getting dressed. Such a dilemma.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:43

    Well yes. I am definitely female. It wasn't unprovoked assault. Alex also said he'd rather Nick went over than I did!

    He's such a gentleman that Mr Andronov

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:43

    I want to go and get a slurpee because the ice = good on my throat, but I can't be bothered getting dressed. Such a dilemma.

    Wassup Amy, been shouting?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:44

    Wassup Amy, been shouting?

    swollen ear lobes

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:44

    I want to go and get a slurpee because the ice = good on my throat, but I can't be bothered getting dressed. Such a dilemma.

    Go undressed. You may even get a discount

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:44

    Wassup Amy, been shouting?

    Alison gave Nick a cold and then I caught it too.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:45

    He's such a gentleman that Mr Andronov

    True story.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:45

    Alison gave Nick a cold and then I caught it too.

    Woah! Excuse me?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:46

    Alison gave Nick a cold...

    [Still keeping quiet]

    ... and then I caught it too.

    That's QUITE contagious!

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:46

    Woah! Excuse me?

    Alex said you had tonsilitis or something.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:46

    Go undressed. You may even get a discount

    People don't bat an eyelid in London anymore when you go out in your PJ's

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:47

    Well yes. I am definitely female. It wasn't unprovoked assault. Alex also said he'd rather Nick went over than I did!

    it's decided then *grabs nicks leg to throw him over balcony*

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:48

    Alex said you had tonsilitis or something.

    Hah. I don't have it yet. It is more or less a guarantee before I go though. I'm allergic to London. It does always give me tonsillitis.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:49

    Where was the meet-up?

    Mulled cider on the menu makes me think 'The Coal Hole'

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:49

    Hah. I don't have it yet. It is more or less a guarantee before I go though. I'm allergic to London. It does always give me tonsillitis.

    I suppose it is possible to be allergic to a place

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 00:50

    People don't bat an eyelid in London anymore when you go out in your PJ's

    this is why I bought my slovenly trackpants. Comfy, but can be worn outside. The problem is it's 30 degrees outside so if I go out in trackpants I may die.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:50

    Hah. I don't have it yet. It is more or less a guarantee before I go though. I'm allergic to London. It does always give me tonsillitis.

    Northerners' immune systems can take a pounding in the grimy city we have down here

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:50

    this is why I bought my slovenly trackpants. Comfy, but can be worn outside. The problem is it's 30 degrees outside so if I go out in trackpants I may die.

    You need a 'shorts' version

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:51

    Mulled cider on the menu makes me think 'The Coal Hole'

    You obviously know far too much about these things. Yes. Don't ask me to find it again though. I got very lost. Very very lost.

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:51

    Northerners' immune systems can take a pounding in the grimy city we have down here

    how very dare you, i resemble that remark.

    I suppose it is possible to be allergic to a place

    I'm alllergic to coventry.

    London though, i enjoy driving down there (waves hand in front of face and sniffs drink)

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:52

    Northerners' immune systems can take a pounding in the grimy city we have down here

    I was born in London. I thought I was just a sickly child but then I moved away and now am hardly ill.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:52

    You obviously know far too much about these things. Yes. Don't ask me to find it again though. I got very lost. Very very lost.

    I took a pic of the mulled cider blackboard last time I was there, I thought it was quite odd

    How can you get lost on The Strand?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:53

    I'm alllergic to coventry

    Who isn't? ;)

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:54

    How can you get lost on The Strand?

    I couldn't find my way onto the Strand. Nick gave me awful directions then put me on hold when I phoned for help!!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:55

    I couldn't find my way onto the Strand. Nick gave me awful directions then put me on hold when I phoned for help!!

    Not a good start

    Always start at Trafalgar Square and then phone Giggles :)

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 00:55

    How can you get lost on The Strand?

    i needed google maps to cross the road to get to savile row, in a car

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 00:55

    I couldn't find my way onto the Strand. Nick gave me awful directions then put me on hold when I phoned for help!!

    I didn't know he put you on hold. He deserves to be thrown off a balcony for that

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:56

    I couldn't find my way onto the Strand. Nick gave me awful directions then put me on hold when I phoned for help!!

    That doesn't help...

    from which direction?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:57

    I didn't know he put you on hold. He deserves to be thrown off a balcony for that

    In all honesty, that might have been the reason.....

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:57

    Can identify all but the person on the left, any help?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/2009-11-08-10-02-29

    From the Mercedes McLaren day, I'm guessing

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 00:58

    Can identify all but the person on the left, any help?

    http://drop.io...t/2009-11-08-10-02-29

    From the Mercedes McLaren day, I'm guessing

    Kimster from PF

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 00:59

    Kimster from PF

    Ahh

    Thanks

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 00:59

    That doesn't help...

    from which direction?

    I have no idea. I managed to walk to Charing Cross. That's sort of near.... It was dark. I haven't been to London in years.

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:00

    Kimster from PF

    really?

    at least i know one of the faces who beats me on quiz night.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:01

    I have no idea. I managed to walk to Charing Cross. That's sort of near.... It was dark. I haven't been to London in years.

    The trouble with London is they put it all too close together. You're in the next bit before you realised you left the last bit.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:02

    The trouble with London is they put it all too close together. You're in the next bit before you realised you left the last bit.

    You can be in both bits if you ask too many people!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:02

    I managed to walk to Charing Cross. That's sort of near.... It was dark.

    Very

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:04

    So, the off season eh...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:08

    Button visits McLaren.

    KABOOM. I'm now officially confused.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:08

    So, the off season eh...

    Quiet isn't it?

    Has SPC lost it's chatty nightowls or are they off having a life tonight?

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:09

    The trouble with London is they put it all too close together. You're in the next bit before you realised you left the last bit.

    they could do with getting rid of some roads. they've got enough of them as it is.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:09

    Has SPC lost it's chatty nightowls or are they off having a life tonight?

    I'm sulking because you're all being mean to me!!

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:09

    KABOOM. I'm now officially confused.

    Kathi posted that story earlier. It's just negotiation. He will still sign for Brawn

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:09

    Has SPC lost it's chatty nightowls or are they off having a life tonight?

    It's a Friday night, you know. :P

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:09

    they could do with getting rid of some roads. they've got enough of them as it is.

    But where would we all park? ;)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:09

    So, the off season eh...

    Great innit. Or so people keep trying to tell me!

    I am enjoying the break because I'm able to catch up with a mega backlog of podcasts and blogs and it is nice to have a rest from it all. I can't see it lasting.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:09

    It's a Friday night, you know. :P

    Good point, never used to matter

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:10

    Has SPC lost it's chatty nightowls or are they off having a life tonight?

    Some of you disappeared for a while

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:10

    Oooooh I'm off to see Michel tomorrow though! That's exciting. I have SPC to thank :D

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:10

    Kathi posted that story earlier. It's just negotiation. He will still sign for Brawn

    And if he, against the odds, does sign for McLaren?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:10

    I'm sulking because you're all being mean to me!!

    Did you get Michel tickets yet?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:10

    I'm sulking because you're all being mean to me!!

    But's just our jovial way

    It means we consider you one of us!

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:10

    Did you get Michel tickets yet?

    YES!!!!!! :D :D :D

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:10

    But where would we all park? ;)

    just leave them at the end of the M1 and walk in :)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:11

    So, the off season eh...

    Quiet isn't it?

    Has SPC lost it's chatty nightowls or are they off having a life tonight?

    It has been that way for over a week, and Christine is trying to stop the "quiet isn't it" comments ;-)

    It seems most of the night shift have been absent lately. Nick was in Dubai, you were away, others were here and there...

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:11

    Oooooh I'm off to see Michel tomorrow though! That's exciting. I have SPC to thank :D

    That should be good.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:11

    It means we consider you one of us!

    You make it sound like Alison's a guy. :D

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:11

    And if he, against the odds, does sign for McLaren?

    Ain't gonna happen

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:11

    Some of you disappeared for a while

    I was stuffing my face with feta for a while

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:12

    Ain't gonna happen

    Stranger things have happened, I've got to admit.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:12

    YES!!!!!! :D :D :D

    I am surprised that is not the first thing you said when you arrived.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:12

    And if he, against the odds, does sign for McLaren?

    I still want Kimi to lay down some ink there but Jenson I could live with

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:12

    Oooooh I'm off to see Michel tomorrow though! That's exciting. I have SPC to thank :D

    You're welcome

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:12

    Has SPC lost it's chatty nightowls or are they off having a life tonight?

    when the clocks changed it seemed that no one sticks around after 1am anymore.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:12

    I was stuffing my face with feta for a while

    Two weeks?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:13

    I am surprised that is not the first thing you said when you arrived.

    Ooooh I've told everyone else I know. I sort of presumed I'd told you!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:13

    when the clocks changed it seemed that no one sticks around after 1am anymore.

    Lightweights!

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:13

    You're welcome

    :D :D :D

  • Jordan F114/11/2009 at 01:13

    Well, I am off to see "Canada's Worst Driver" on our version of the Discover Channel. Scary how these people got their permits.....

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:13

    when the clocks changed it seemed that no one sticks around after 1am anymore.

    Coincidence I think

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:14

    Ooooh I've told everyone else I know. I sort of presumed I'd told you!

    You may have mentioned it before I showed up today

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:14

    Lightweights!

    It is a very good thing that you weren't out with us. I was pretty drunk as it was. No-one let me eat first.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:14

    Two weeks?

    Well, no

    But I've eased off on the internet a little and trying to have a life [well, a little anyway]

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:14

    Lightweights!

    I know! Don't you all realise I need SPC comments throughout the UK night to entertain me when I'm at work?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:15

    Well, I am off to see "Canada's Worst Driver" on our version of the Discover Channel. Scary how these people got their permits.....

    Indeed

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:15

    It is a very good thing that you weren't out with us. I was pretty drunk as it was. No-one let me eat first.

    They didn't give you the "eating is cheating line" did they?

    I don't advocate drinking on an empty stomach for mere mortals ;)

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:15

    I know! Don't you all realise I need SPC comments throughout the UK night to entertain me when I'm at work?

    *does a little dance* :)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:16

    Well, I am off to see "Canada's Worst Driver" on our version of the Discover Channel. Scary how these people got their permits.....

    In fact if you see them walking around a supermarket with a trolley, it is incredible the lack of spacial awareness displayed by many..

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:16

    I know! Don't you all realise I need SPC comments throughout the UK night to entertain me when I'm at work?

    You need to start an argumet before people go to bed. If someone starts an argument here people end up staying half the night

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:16

    Lightweights!

    oh also, my flights have been booked. If you are working on the day I arrive at Heathrow I shall wave.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:16

    It is a very good thing that you weren't out with us. I was pretty drunk as it was. No-one let me eat first.

    ooh that's not good. eating before drinking is essential

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:16

    Button visits McLaren.

    I forgot about Reuters stupid, page 1 of 3 silliness

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:17

    ooh that's not good. eating before drinking is essential

    what about a pint of milk to "line the stomach"?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:17

    You need to start an argumet before people go to bed. If someone starts an argument here people end up staying half the night

    No they don't

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:17

    oh also, my flights have been booked. If you are working on the day I arrive at Heathrow I shall wave.

    When's that?

    I'll probably be on earlies, just getting into work

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:18

    I forgot about Reuters stupid, page 1 of 3 silliness

    That's why I always click on the single page link. :D

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:18

    what about a pint of milk to "line the stomach"?

    foooood

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:18

    ooh that's not good. eating before drinking is essential

    what about a pint of milk to "line the stomach"?

    Guinness does that better

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:18

    You need to start an argumet before people go to bed. If someone starts an argument here people end up staying half the night

    No they don't

    Yes they do!

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:18

    I don't advocate drinking on an empty stomach for mere mortals ;)

    Well they arranged to meet at a stupidly early time so I couldn't possibly eat first. Then when I mentioned food there was grumbling. I couldn't exactly go out by myself to find some. I'd be found weeks later walking round and round Leicester Square.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:19

    That's why I always click on the single page link. :D

    Oh yes, good call

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:19

    When's that?

    Arrive Monday August 23 on an A380 then leave again on Wednesday September 22 on a 777

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:21

    Arrive Monday August 23 on an A380 then leave again on Wednesday September 22 on a 777

    Earlies on both

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:21

    Arrive Monday August 23 on an A380 then leave again on Wednesday September 22 on a 777

    have you sorted the return travel back to London yet? you said you wanted to take the train and if we're doing the road trip out...

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:21

    You need to start an argumet before people go to bed. If someone starts an argument here people end up staying half the night

    No they don't

    Yes they do!

    what you wanna make of it yeah?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:21

    Earlies on both

    How do you even know that?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:22

    have you sorted the return travel back to London yet? you said you wanted to take the train and if we're doing the road trip out...

    nope, I've only sorted out how I'm getting to and from London, I haven't even started working out the rest of Europe. It's daunting.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:23

    Earlies on both

    How do you even know that?

    One week earlies, one week lates

    I put it in my calendar which syncs to my phone

    On repeat for about a year

    If I still work in the same hangar by then, of course

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:23

    nope, I've only sorted out how I'm getting to and from London, I haven't even started working out the rest of Europe. It's daunting.

    I was thinking you could do 1 x car in tunnel on the way to Spa, and 1 x train in tunnel in Sept with the food and stuff like Alex did.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:24

    I was thinking you could do 1 x car in tunnel on the way to Spa, and 1 x train in tunnel in Sept with the food and stuff like Alex did.

    Though to be fair I'm not really thinking about my own travel until much later..

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:24

    nope, I've only sorted out how I'm getting to and from London, I haven't even started working out the rest of Europe. It's daunting.

    You have a seat if you want it

    Also a spare room too, if required

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:24

    Arrive Monday August 23 on an A380 then leave again on Wednesday September 22 on a 777

    So you're coming to the UK for a couple of days? you mean stay in London and miss out the rest of it like Scotland, or Wales? ;)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:25

    So you're coming to the UK for a couple of days? you mean stay in London and miss out the rest of it like Scotland, or Wales? ;)

    I'm sure there'll be a floating NZ pub to visit

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:25

    So you're coming to the UK for a couple of days? you mean stay in London and miss out the rest of it like Scotland, or Wales? ;)

    If there's time it is worth a day doing somewhere else in the country. London has its own 'thing'.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:26

    If there's time it is worth a day doing somewhere else in the country. London has its own 'thing'.

    Bath, Oxford, Cambridge are all relatively close for a day trip

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:26

    Bath, Oxford, Cambridge are all relatively close for a day trip

    Brands Hatch ;-)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:27

    Oh yeah, I have news

    [considers if this should be SPC discussion fodder or not]

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:28

    Bath, Oxford, Cambridge are all relatively close for a day trip

    Bath is nice, Dewsbury is avoidable (really, it is), but Edinburgh, I've only been once, and I want to go back.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:28

    The next known sidepodmeetup is Alia's karting (though I think I saw talk of something in Dec):

    http://alianoralacanta.wik.is/La_Canta_Magnifico_Blog/2nd_F1_Bloggers_and_Friends_Karting_Competition

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Autosport+International?mail=1127

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:28

    Oh yeah, I have news

    [considers if this should be SPC discussion fodder or not]

    anything is up for discussion (except the P word)

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:28

    Oh yeah, I have news

    [considers if this should be SPC discussion fodder or not]

    Speak now. Anything to stop people picking on me :P

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:28

    Bath is nice, Dewsbury is avoidable (really, it is), but Edinburgh, I've only been once, and I want to go back.

    I love Glasgow, really should've visited Edinburgh by now

    Though I hear it's full of English

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:28

    Bath is nice, Dewsbury is avoidable (really, it is), but Edinburgh, I've only been once, and I want to go back.

    I went to Edinburgh for Hogmanay. Best NYE ever.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:29

    Oh yeah, I have news

    [considers if this should be SPC discussion fodder or not]

    Of course it should be discussed here.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:29

    I was thinking you could do 1 x car in tunnel on the way to Spa, and 1 x train in tunnel in Sept with the food and stuff like Alex did.

    thats what I'm thinking too.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:29

    Speak now. Anything to stop people picking on me :P

    Well, remember the first blind date I had?

    The one where Alex suggest bringing the Orange Drill story out, not the 'do I shave or not' one?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:30

    The one where Alex suggest bringing the Orange Drill story out, not the 'do I shave or not' one?

    Yes. There's a second date, isn't there?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:30

    The next known sidepodmeetup is Alia's karting (though I think I saw talk of something in Dec

    Don't think I'll be making that :(

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:30

    So you're coming to the UK for a couple of days? you mean stay in London and miss out the rest of it like Scotland, or Wales? ;)

    there will be very little time spent in the UK, you lot are boring and speak the same language as me, where's the fun in that? ;)

    no I kid, I would like to see more of the UK but that shall have to wait for next time. My mum really wants me to go to Wales and follow up her ancestry.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:31

    Well, remember the first blind date I had?

    Oooh I didn't know it was a blind date but yes! I was going to ask how it went then was concerned that it hadn't gone well.....

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:31

    Yes. There's a second date, isn't there?

    There's been a few to be exact, going rather well

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:31

    Yes. There's a second date, isn't there?

    She watched the Orange Drill incident didn't she?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:31

    There's been a few to be exact, going rather well

    hooray!

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:31

    There's been a few to be exact, going rather well

    Yaaaaay!! So this is where you have been? :P

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:32

    There's been a few to be exact, going rather well

    Excellent

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:32

    Yaaaaay!! So this is where you have been? :P

    Sometimes

    But have needed an internet break too

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:32

    She watched the Orange Drill incident didn't she?

    Of course, this is what swayed it

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:32

    There's been a few to be exact, going rather well

    Yaaaaay!! So this is where you have been? :P

    Excellent news! Looks like Bassano's well on his way then. Anyone else who needs our help? :D

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:33

    She watched the Orange Drill incident didn't she?

    Remembers not to mention that footage for a little while at least

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:34

    Excellent news! Looks like Bassano's well on his way then. Anyone else who needs our help? :D

    I believe somebody was promised a trip over some kind of balcony

    #sorryalison

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:35

    I believe somebody was promised a trip over some kind of balcony

    #sorryalison

    You read my mind, SB. Very well, in fact. :)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:35

    Oooh I didn't know it was a blind date but yes! I was going to ask how it went then was concerned that it hadn't gone well.....

    I did report back that the orange drill need not be mentioned and that no live commenting was required. This was understood to be a good sign at the time

    It just took us a while to get to the second date [circumstance was against us]

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:36

    Excellent news! Looks like Bassano's well on his way then. Anyone else who needs our help? :D

    I need someone to go pick up some Strepsils and a Slurpee for me?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:36

    It just took us a while to get to the second date [circumstance was against us]

    Didn't you go on a date with someone else? I lost hope at that point.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:37

    Arrive Monday August 23 on an A380 then leave again on Wednesday September 22 on a 777

    Qantas in

    Emirates/BA out?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:37

    I believe somebody was promised a trip over some kind of balcony

    #sorryalison

    Oh my goodness!! There really is no need for this! What has brought all this on.....

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:38

    It just took us a while to get to the second date [circumstance was against us]

    When do we need to buy our hats ?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:38

    Didn't you go on a date with someone else? I lost hope at that point.

    Yeah, nothing came of that

    Was ok but had zero in common

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:38

    Emirates/BA out?

    Singapore Airlines in both directions.

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:38

    Oh my goodness!! There really is no need for this! What has brought all this on.....

    #moresorryalison :(

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:38

    When do we need to buy our hats ?

    You can borrow Alex's tube map cap

    Oh, you mean...

    :D

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:39

    Oh my goodness!! There really is no need for this! What has brought all this on.....

    You and Nick's extended absence. :D

    Oh, and you can blame Amy too. ;)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:40

    Singapore Airlines in both directions.

    I don't know why they've told you what aircraft will be flying that route in 9 months time. Aircraft utilisation changes all the time

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:40

    Oh my goodness!! There really is no need for this! What has brought all this on.....

    The love of humour

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:40

    I don't know why they've told you what aircraft will be flying that route in 9 months time. Aircraft utilisation changes all the time

    Isn't London-Singapore fixed as an A380 route?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:41

    Oh, and you can blame Amy too. ;)

    ...Why? I'm not usually a comment trawler.... You're making me feel like I need to :( What have you all been saying about me?!?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:41

    I don't know why they've told you what aircraft will be flying that route in 9 months time. Aircraft utilisation changes all the time

    ahh. The things you learn. As long as I get to go on an A380 on at least one of the four legs of the journey, I will be happy. Big plane!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:41

    The love of humour

    And the lack of other items to talk about - we were digging into the Jenson-Kimi-McLaren love triangle for the thousandth time...

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:42

    Isn't London-Singapore fixed as an A380 route?

    In our industry, particularly now, there is no 'fixed' unless we are just talking about this week and next

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:42

    ...Why? I'm not usually a comment trawler.... You're making me feel like I need to :( What have you all been saying about me?!?

    Hahaha! Don't worry about it - we were just a bit of fun at your trip with Nick to the Science Museum. All harmless. :D

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:42

    ...Why? I'm not usually a comment trawler.... You're making me feel like I need to :( What have you all been saying about me?!?

    Passing on illnesses, I'm guessing

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:42

    Hahaha! Don't worry about it - we were just a bit of fun at your trip with Nick to the Science Museum. All harmless. :D

    *poking a bit of fun

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:43

    Hahaha! Don't worry about it - we were just a bit of fun at your trip with Nick to the Science Museum. All harmless. :D

    Didn't know that

    Oooooooohhhh ;)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:44

    Oooooooohhhh ;)

    Great, now Bassano's jumped on the train too. :P

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:45

    Oooooooohhhh ;)

    Hahahaha you're all lucky I have a thick skin!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:45

    On reflection, I think the 'Button visits McLaren' story is all about pushing Kimi to sign and maybe helping Button's saleability [to Brawn & sponsors]

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:45

    Great, now Bassano's jumped on the train too. :P

    Too hard to resist

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:46

    Hahahaha you're all lucky I have a thick skin!

    Just joshing, but you know that anyway

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:46

    On reflection, I think the 'Button visits McLaren' story is all about pushing Kimi to sign and maybe helping Button's saleability [to Brawn & sponsors]

    The thing is, Kimi's not the type of guy who can be pushed, I think. There's also this probability that he'll get paid more if he doesn't drive, rather than if he does...

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:47

    Hahaha! Don't worry about it - we were just a bit of fun at your trip with Nick to the Science Museum. All harmless. :D

    There was a visti to the science museum after the pub?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:47

    The thing is, Kimi's not the type of guy who can be pushed, I think. There's also this probability that he'll get paid more if he doesn't drive, rather than if he does...

    But he does want to drive and win another DWC

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:47

    There was a visti to the science museum after the pub?

    Errrm yes?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:47

    There was a visti to the science museum after the pub?

    Night At The Museum 3?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:47

    There was a visit to the science museum after the pub?

    I think so, yes. And something about spilling some beverage on a bench somewhere...

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:48

    There was a visti to the science museum after the pub?

    The question you want to ask is what happened in between time? Or maybe we'd rather not..

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:48

    I certainly haven't given anyone any diseases though!!

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:48

    There was a visti to the science museum after the pub?

    sidepodgossip

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:48

    There was a visti to the science museum after the pub?

    Errrm yes?

    See, those are the things you keep quiet here :)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:48

    But he does want to drive and win another DWC

    He doesn't need to be in F1 to win titles, though. He surely knows by now that if he wanted to do it in rallying, he can do it there too. If I'm not mistaken, Ford and Citroen have an open door for him if he so chooses.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:49

    I certainly haven't given anyone any diseases though!!

    Too late

    Assumptions made

    [this is all made up]

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:49

    See, those are the things you keep quiet here :)

    Lou and Lukeh discovered this when they met in London... Jackie was asking about needing a Sidepodhat...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:49

    The question you want to ask is what happened in between time? Or maybe we'd rather not..

    :D :D :D

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:49

    He doesn't need to be in F1 to win titles, though. He surely knows by now that if he wanted to do it in rallying, he can do it there too. If I'm not mistaken, Ford and Citroen have an open door for him if he so chooses.

    Does he have the patience (or skill) to beat Loeb?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:50

    Lou and Lukeh discovered this when they met in London... Jackie was asking about needing a Sidepodhat...

    I've kept quiet on that one

    Young love needs to flourish undisturbed :lol:

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:50

    He doesn't need to be in F1 to win titles, though. He surely knows by now that if he wanted to do it in rallying, he can do it there too. If I'm not mistaken, Ford and Citroen have an open door for him if he so chooses.

    what about the sabbatical option? if the mclaren deal fails?

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 01:50

    Hi everyone. How are we all?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:50

    The question you want to ask is what happened in between time? Or maybe we'd rather not..

    Excuse me!!!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:50

    what about the sabbatical option? if the mclaren deal fails?

    Does that EVER work?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:50

    Does he have the patience (or skill) to beat Loeb?

    Patience? I'd think so. Skill? Not yet, but maybe in 2-3 years time.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:51

    I've kept quiet on that one

    There might not be anything in it all but if things get mentioned.. :-)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:51

    Hi everyone. How are we all?

    Hi Scott

    We're gossiping

    #sorryAlison

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:51

    Does that EVER work?

    It worked for Prost and (to a lesser degree) Mansell.

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:51

    Lou and Lukeh discovered this when they met in London... Jackie was asking about needing a Sidepodhat...

    they met at Goodwood FOS too didn't they? (stirs things up for no apparent reason)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:51

    Hi everyone. How are we all?

    Evening

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:51

    Patience? I'd think so. Skill? Not yet, but maybe in 2-3 years time.

    Hence the patience Q

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:52

    Errrm yes?

    Oooooooohhhh ;)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:52

    Young love needs to flourish undisturbed :lol:

    :D Mmmm, yes. Just as well they're not here, then. But I don't think anything's coming out of that. Would LOVE to be proved wrong, though.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:52

    they met at Goodwood FOS too didn't they? (stirs things up for no apparent reason)

    For fun is very valid

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 01:52

    We're gossiping

    #sorryAlison

    i was just noticing that. Is this because the Internet world is colliding with the physical world?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:52

    Hence the patience Q

    Indeed so.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:52

    Oooooooohhhh ;)

    *runs away and cries*

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:53

    i was just noticing that. Is this because the Internet world is colliding with the physical world?

    To answer would be purely unfounded ;)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:53

    Oooooooohhhh ;)

    Now Steven gets down with it. Mmm yes, lotsa fun this discussion. :D

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:53

    Hi Scott

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:53

    *runs away and cries*

    Ahhh, no need

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:53

    It worked for Prost and (to a lesser degree) Mansell.

    Senna tried to but couldn't keep away in 93. He's been paid for next year, so he could do whatever he wants. I'd miss him and his witty banter though

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:54

    i was just noticing that. Is this because the Internet world is colliding with the physical world?

    That can be dangerous... I once went to work for a guy I'd conversed with for years online and had met socially before... it didn't end well.

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 01:54

    To answer would be purely unfounded ;)

    :) your getting your moneys worth out of the bold font I see!

    Hi pat - are you in on the gossip or keeping away with a 10 foot pole?

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:54

    i was just noticing that. Is this because the Internet world is colliding with the physical world?

    does.not.compute

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:54

    Hi Scott

    All these Scotts, we're gonna need nicknames soon

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:55

    *runs away and cries*

    OOPS

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:55

    Senna tried to but couldn't keep away in 93. He's been paid for next year, so he could do whatever he wants. I'd miss him and his witty banter though

    I would find it very odd if McLaren agreed to a race-by-race deal with Raikkonen ala Senna-93 (which may or may not have been an acting job to pressure Ford). But again, stranger things have happened...

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:55

    I can just see this never going away..... BOOOO!!!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:56

    :) your getting your moneys worth out of the bold font I see!

    Context and accentuation is a tricky domain on the interwebz

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 01:56

    That can be dangerous... I once went to work for a guy I'd conversed with for years online and had met socially before... it didn't end well.

    did he not look like what his profile page suggested? Or did he say he was a shipping tycon? And he *was*?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 01:56

    I am dressed! Time to go get wonderful soothing goodness. Back soon :D

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 01:56

    I can just see this never going away..... BOOOO!!!

    I am trying :)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:56

    Hi pat - are you in on the gossip or keeping away with a 10 foot pole?

    bit of both really!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:57

    I would find it very odd if McLaren agreed to a race-by-race deal with Raikkonen ala Senna-93

    In the modern era I can definitely agree

    Not sponsor friendly

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:57

    I can just see this never going away..... BOOOO!!!

    It went away for Lou and Lukeh (for the most part); it'll go away with you too. Well, at least it definitely would when we find someone else to tease. :D

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 01:57

    Ready for the shuttle launch on a couple of days Steven?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:57

    I can just see this never going away..... BOOOO!!!

    Relax, we're over it

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:57

    did he not look like what his profile page suggested? Or did he say he was a shipping tycon? And he *was*?

    Not sure what looks have to do with being my employer!

    He's an arrogant sod.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:57

    It went away for Lou and Lukeh (for the most part); it'll go away with you too. Well, at least it definitely would when we find someone else to tease. :D

    When did that happen? Years ago? You are still talking about it to an extent :P

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:57

    I am dressed! Time to go get wonderful soothing goodness. Back soon :D

    Congrats

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:58

    I am dressed! Time to go get wonderful soothing goodness. Back soon :D

    Congrats

    For 1pm local time dressed-ness

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 01:58

    When did that happen? Years ago? You are still talking about it to an extent :P

    Was it... 6 months ago or something like that? It rarely gets brought up now (if at all - or have I been missing this discussion?)

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 01:58

    I can just see this never going away..... BOOOO!!!

    After you two get married people will stop talking about the last week until your kids are old enough that they can be told

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 01:59

    I can just see this never going away..... BOOOO!!!

    I'll say no more on the matter if that helps.

    Just let we get it out of my system for one last time

    LONDONNICKBALCONYAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGHHHH

    that's better, consider me leaving it alone

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 01:59

    Not sure what looks have to do with being my employer!

    He's an arrogant sod.

    I was linking the theme from the other conversation ;)

    so how long did it take for you to realize he was not all he was online?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 01:59

    Was it... 6 months ago or something like that? It rarely gets brought up now (if at all - or have I been missing this discussion?)

    I don't know it was every really discussed, only hinted at, and then only in jest.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 01:59

    When did that happen? Years ago? You are still talking about it to an extent :P

    Months

    1st meet up at the SPC F1 Sci Museum meet-up pre-season?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 01:59

    Was it... 6 months ago or something like that? It rarely gets brought up now (if at all - or have I been missing this discussion?)

    You brought it up now! :P Plus they're gonna see this in the morning and there'll be all manner of awkwardness :)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 02:00

    You brought it up now! :P Plus they're gonna see this in the morning and there'll be all manner of awkwardness :)

    I didn't bring it up first! :P

    I blame Pat. :D

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:00

    Ready for the shuttle launch on a couple of days Steven?

    Yes. Plugged it here a couple of time. They are predicting 90% good weather which is ridiculously high for NASA

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:00

    After you two get married people will stop talking about the last week until your kids are old enough that they can be told

    You know what I have to say about marriage.... Something along the lines of "hahahahahahaha"

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:01

    I was linking the theme from the other conversation ;)

    Yeah I don't really travel that road :-)

    so how long did it take for you to realize he was not all he was online?

    Days. But my existing employment situation was dire so it helped me in the long run, but I had to put up with a lot of petty office politics.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:01

    You brought it up now! :P Plus they're gonna see this in the morning and there'll be all manner of awkwardness :)

    Such is life

    One needs to not let this stuff affect, it's character building

    They're friends, we'll live with it

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:01

    I blame Pat. :D

    Hey it was already out there.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:02

    Yes. Plugged it here a couple of time. They are predicting 90% good weather which is ridiculously high for NASA

    Too good to be true on past performance

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:02

    Yes. Plugged it here a couple of time. They are predicting 90% good weather which is ridiculously high for NASA

    me thinks mrs c won't be happy with that degree of certainty!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:02

    I blame Pat. :D

    It used to be Steven

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:02

    One needs to not let this stuff affect, it's character building

    They're friends, we'll live with it

    Awwww see now you think I'm genuinely concerned. It's cute. If I was concerned about mild teasing, I wouldn't have told anyone where we were going. That's when you're allowed to be worried about it ;)

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:03

    Days. But my existing employment situation was dire so it helped me in the long run, but I had to put up with a lot of petty office politics.

    I get that. Love office politics. So far I don't see any of that but it only a matter of time I guess...

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:03

    One needs to not let this stuff affect, it's character building

    They're friends, we'll live with it

    Nothing said has been malicious in any way. None of us really know what's going with any of us, only what it could look like...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 02:03

    Awwww see now you think I'm genuinely concerned. It's cute. If I was concerned about mild teasing, I wouldn't have told anyone where we were going. That's when you're allowed to be worried about it ;)

    Mmmm... So when we start hearing about you secretly going out with Nick, that's when we should be worried. I'll keep that in mind. :D

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:04

    Steven, you may be able to answer this [or not]

    Is the spelling of your name [with a V instead of a P H] a Celtic thing?

    I know of only one other 'V' person who might know

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:05

    Awwww see now you think I'm genuinely concerned. It's cute. If I was concerned about mild teasing, I wouldn't have told anyone where we were going. That's when you're allowed to be worried about it ;)

    The lady doth protest too much ;)

    [I'll stop now]

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:05

    Nothing said has been malicious in any way. None of us really know what's going on with any of us, only what it could look like...

    typing too fast again

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:05

    me thinks mrs c won't be happy with that degree of certainty!

    They are a week behind schedule already. All is well with the world

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:05

    The lady doth protest too much ;)

    [I'll stop now]

    All we've heard all week is balcony this and balcony that ;-)

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:05

    It used to be Steven

    So much blame now I have to sub-contract it

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:06

    All we've heard all week is balcony this and balcony that ;-)

    That wasn't me!!!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:06

    So much blame now I have to sub-contract it

    :lol:

    I hope you're on commision

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:06

    So much blame now I have to sub-contract it

    :)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:06

    That wasn't me!!!

    Hmm. Anyway, damn sight more interesting than whatever Kimi is doing.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:06

    All we've heard all week is balcony this and balcony that ;-)

    Shakespeare would have a field day!

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:06

    Is the spelling of your name [with a V instead of a P H] a Celtic thing?

    No idea. According to my mother mine is spelled that way because my dad couldn't spell.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:07

    Hmm. Anyway, damn sight more interesting than whatever Kimi is doing.

    I'm flattered I guess?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:07

    Hmm. Anyway, damn sight more interesting than whatever Kimi is doing.

    We don't know where Kimi is right this minute

    I doubt it!

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:07

    They are a week behind schedule already. All is well with the world

    some of my colleagues are down in Florida the next few days. I am not which is possibly a good thing because I'd just keep heading out to the Cape

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:07

    No idea. According to my mother mine is spelled that way because my dad couldn't spell.

    Sounds more feasible

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:08

    We don't know where Kimi is right this minute

    Threatening to throw Button of a balcony?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:08

    some of my colleagues are down in Florida the next few days. I am not which is possibly a good thing because I'd just keep heading out to the Cape

    It would be too tempting

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:08

    Shakespeare would have a field day!

    I saw that balcony 2 months ago! So many tourists, very little privacy.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:09

    I've met Stevens with a V before. I just presumed it was a Scottish thing?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:09

    I've met Stevens with a V before. I just presumed it was a Scottish thing?

    Opens Google

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:10

    I've met Stevens with a V before. I just presumed it was a Scottish thing?

    I never even realised it was localised. Plenty with a v around here.

  • startledbunny14/11/2009 at 02:10

    No idea. According to my mother mine is spelled that way because my dad couldn't spell.

    I know mine is spelt without an "H" but i'll be damned if i can find those pens with my name on them without the "H" in them. That was thanks to my Mum. (you probably know what my name is anyway)

    I believe I have to lose some hair at some kind of place called a "hairdressers" in a few hours time, to coincide with this, my bedtime is due.

    so i bid you all a fond farewell, and see you tomorrow/sunday/a day in the future,

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:10

    I've met Stevens with a V before. I just presumed it was a Scottish thing?

    The only thing I know about Stevens spelled either way is that the vast majority are Pisces. I have no idea why

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:11

    I know mine is spelt without an "H" but i'll be damned if i can find those pens with my name on them without the "H" in them. That was thanks to my Mum. (you probably know what my name is anyway)

    I believe I have to lose some hair at some kind of place called a "hairdressers" in a few hours time, to coincide with this, my bedtime is due.

    so i bid you all a fond farewell, and see you tomorrow/sunday/a day in the future,

    Night

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:11

    so i bid you all a fond farewell, and see you tomorrow/sunday/a day in the future,

    G'night Senor Bunny

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:11

    Night

    see you later bunny, if that is your real name...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 02:12

    so i bid you all a fond farewell, and see you tomorrow/sunday/a day in the future,

    Night Mr Bunny.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:12

    That wasn't me!!!

    #blamenick

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:14

    I am just going to update the sidepodcast listener map. Are all the newish people on it?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:15

    I am just going to update the sidepodcast listener map. Are all the newish people on it?

    Don't know but you should go right ahead

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:15

    I am just going to update the sidepodcast listener map. Are all the newish people on it?

    Someone suggested today to some newbie that they should explore the wiki and add their name to the listeners map

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:15

    Early results suggest 'Steven' is an Anglicised variety of 'Stephen'

    http://www.behindthename.com/name/stephen

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:17

    I am just going to update the sidepodcast listener map. Are all the newish people on it?

    If you don't mind, I might just call you 'Boston Red', unless you object

    I've never known so many Scotts in one place :)

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:17

    Someone suggested today to some newbie that they should explore the wiki and add their name to the listeners map

    there are a couple near me. Maybe a meetup is possible. Unless they are like pats former boss?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:17

    If you don't mind, I might just call you 'Boston Red', unless you object

    Or just Boston

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:17

    I've never known so many Scotts in one place :)

    Two?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:17

    If you spell it Stephen, it would be weird to write Steve on anything though wouldn't it?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:17

    there are a couple near me. Maybe a meetup is possible. Unless they are like pats former boss?

    I tried that, it's difficult

    Mind you, I was crossing the Atlantic

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:18

    Two?

    Woodwiss

    In Italy

    Boston Red

    Am sure there's another

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:18

    I am just going to update the sidepodcast listener map. Are all the newish people on it?

    Link it so any newbies reading now can add themselves

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:18

    I've never known so many Scotts in one place :)

    He has been called Scott on here for ages when he was in Italy

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:18

    Am sure there's another

    2 of those are the same

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 02:18

    Woodwiss

    In Italy

    Boston Red

    in Italy is Boston Red, right?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:19

    If you spell it Stephen, it would be weird to write Steve on anything though wouldn't it?

    Steph sounds like 'Steff' though

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:19

    I tried that, it's difficult

    he he Jeremy and I tried in Australia with Jeremy trying to drive 3 hours on a day when traffic wasn't great. It never happened:(

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 02:19

    Link it so any newbies reading now can add themselves

    Or lurkers...

    Hello, lurkers. :D

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:19

    in Italy is Boston Red, right?

    That's too confusing!!

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:19

    If you spell it Stephen, it would be weird to write Steve on anything though wouldn't it?

    I suppose

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:20

    in Italy is Boston Red, right?

    That's too confusing!!

    He moved.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:20

    there are a couple near me. Maybe a meetup is possible. Unless they are like pats former boss?

    Don't do it!!! Seems to lead to trouble :P

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:20

    he he Jeremy and I tried in Australia with Jeremy trying to drive 3 hours on a day when traffic wasn't great. It never happened:(

    Jeremy also tried to get me on a 'man date' with his pilot brother -in-law!

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:20

    Don't do it!!! Seems to lead to trouble :P

    If they meet up and do something dumb it gets you off the hook

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:20

    in Italy is Boston Red, right?

    yeah a new red. I guess some people missed the transition comments. To be fair, I have been very distant..

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:21

    in Italy is Boston Red, right?

    That's too confusing!!

    He moved.

    Scott in Italy, now in Boston

    For sure

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:21

    Hello, lurkers. :D

    [waves]

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:22

    If they meet up and do something dumb it gets you off the hook

    Ah I see. In that case, by all means.... Go for it!

    I'm thinking I get off the hook when Nick moves to Dubai.....

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:22

    in Italy is Boston Red, right?

    That's too confusing!!

    it's hard to be Scott in Italy in America...

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:22

    yeah a new red. I guess some people missed the transition comments. To be fair, I have been very distant..

    New Red?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:22

    it's hard to be Scott in Italy in America...

    That's an awesome name!!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:22

    it's hard to be Scott in Italy in America...

    This is SPC

    We make time up!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:23

    Boston Scott, do you rob banks for a living or just have itchy feet?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:23

    You could try Scott not in Italy?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:23

    You could try Scott not in Italy?

    Very good

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:24

    You could try Scott not in Italy?

    Cos it freaked me out when I found out he was an Aussies

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:24

    If they meet up and do something dumb it gets you off the hook

    Absolutely

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 02:24

    I'm thinking I get off the hook when Nick moves to Dubai.....

    Yes... at least until he comes back to visit. :D

    But we'll probably be teasing someone by then, so who knows? ;)

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:24

    New Red?

    not sure what I meant by that. It was going to be a s

    wine reference, but it never got workshopped.

    The listener map

    http://platial.com/map/sidepodcast-s-Listeners/594335

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:24

    *an Aussie

    [no plural intended :)]

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:25

    You could try Scott not in Italy?

    He was for a while

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:25

    I'm thinking I get off the hook when Nick moves to Dubai.....

    Until the next time you mention going on holiday ;)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:26

    I'm thinking I get off the hook when Nick moves to Dubai.....

    Oh yeah, he got a job and has something like two weeks to find somewhere to live..

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:26

    I'm thinking I get off the hook when Nick moves to Dubai.....

    Oh yeah, he got a job and has something like two weeks to find somewhere to live..

    In Dubai?

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:26

    This is SPC

    true but I think someone made a comment pre move about hoping it was not going to be a simple name change so I was trapped and had to be creative

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:26

    Oh yeah, he got a job and has something like two weeks to find somewhere to live..

    I wouldn't want to incriminate myself with insider information ;) but I think he's flying out by next weekend.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:27

    In Dubai?

    Yeah. He went out there for a week, oh you missed the whole Abu Dhabi thing?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:27

    In Dubai?

    The listners map needs to track pin movements

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:28

    true but I think someone made a comment pre move about hoping it was not going to be a simple name change so I was trapped and had to be creative

    I think we need at leat 3 months of bracketed [no longer in Italy]

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:28

    In Dubai?

    I am catching up on the news too!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:28

    Yeah. He went out there for a week, oh you missed the whole Abu Dhabi thing?

    I was lurking, I knew he was there and looking, that was it

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:28

    I wouldn't want to incriminate myself with insider information ;) but I think he's flying out by next weekend.

    Are you meeting up with him before he goes ;)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:29

    In Dubai?

    Yeah. He went out there for a week, oh you missed the whole Abu Dhabi thing?

    Good for him

    Farewell drinks in Surrey then!

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:30

    Are you meeting up with him before he goes ;)

    And miss out on precious Michel time??

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:30

    I was lurking, I knew he was there and looking, that was it

    He found a free ticket from Total for the Paddock Club on Friday but then had to watch the rest in a pub in Dubai.

    Fourstar was at the race.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:31

    He found a free ticket from Total for the Paddock Club on Friday but then had to watch the rest in a pub in Dubai.

    Fourstar was at the race.

    I got that much from Twitter

    The job is new info

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:31

    I think we need at leat 3 months of bracketed [no longer in Italy]

    I got this job 6 months ago. Figured I'd made enough comments but possibly not in the right time periods to get everyone.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:32

    The job is new info

    He hasn't given much away other than he's got one.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:32

    I got this job 6 months ago. Figured I'd made enough comments but possibly not in the right time periods to get everyone.

    I thought everyone knew.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:32

    He hasn't given much away other than he's got one.

    Have already sent text regarding leaving drinks ;)

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:32

    The job is new info

    He's just waiting for a visa to come through then he's off. No house has been sorted out. I think this is man organisation in action.....

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:33

    I thought everyone knew.

    About Boston, No

    The 'not Italy' comes to mind though

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:33

    And miss out on precious Michel time??

    You are not taking him to watch Michel?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:34

    He's just waiting for a visa to come through then he's off. No house has been sorted out. I think this is man organisation in action.....

    Turn up early, find somewhere, move in

    Is easy when you go 'ex-pat'

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:34

    He's just waiting for a visa to come through then he's off. No house has been sorted out. I think this is man organisation in action.....

    never organize too much before a visa. You can do preliminary stuff but never work too hard until

    the paperwork is sorted

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:34

    He's just waiting for a visa to come through then he's off. No house has been sorted out. I think this is man organisation in action.....

    I guess some people are just able to live 'on the fly' like that..

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:34

    Have already sent text regarding leaving drinks ;)

    Don't sit between him and Alison

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:34

    I guess some people are just able to live 'on the fly' like that..

    He kinda knows the lay of the land out there though

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:35

    never organize too much before a visa. You can do preliminary stuff but never work too hard until

    the paperwork is sorted

    He was born there though. I don't think they can really say no.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:35

    He kinda knows the lay of the land out there though

    really sandy

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:35

    Don't sit between him and Alison

    I won't be invited to 'that' one ;)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:36

    He was born there though. I don't think they can really say no.

    Yet he still needs a visa?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:37

    He was born there though. I don't think they can really say no.

    Or did he just grow up there?

    Can't remember, I've usually been drunk when that stuff comes up

    #blameSidepodPubbing

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:37

    Yet he still needs a visa?

    Apparently there's no way to become a citizen of the UAE. If your parents aren't then you can't be. I'm really not the person to ask about this though.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:38

    Apparently there's no way to become a citizen of the UAE. If your parents aren't then you can't be. I'm really not the person to ask about this though.

    Sounds familiar.. sure he mentioned similar recently..

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:38

    Apparently there's no way to become a citizen of the UAE. If your parents aren't then you can't be. I'm really not the person to ask about this though.

    Sounds feasible

    You're already more knowledgeable than Legard on F1 commentary

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:40
  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:40

    We're getting quite popular, aren't we?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/spc-on-the-n-e-jpg

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:40

    Yet he still needs a visa?

    but gettin' a visa card nowadays isn't hard

    Unfortunately

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:41

    Unfortunately

    Not the sort of link I was expecting

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:42

    Not the sort of link I was expecting

    Mr C has been a busy boy!

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 02:43

    well that was a mission and a half.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:43

    Mr C has been a busy boy!

    I got that [and approve]

    Thought it was credit card related, though Massive Attack is always nice to hear when proved wrong

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:43

    well that was a mission and a half.

    I've decided you deserve your cold!! #notmyfault

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 02:44

    We're getting quite popular, aren't we?

    http://drop.io...et/spc-on-the-n-e-jpg

    These are the US listeners? Impressive.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:44

    well that was a mission and a half.

    Any Crunchie milkshakes out there yet?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:44

    These are the US listeners? Impressive.

    Ex-Pats? :D

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:45

    well that was a mission and a half.

    What mission?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:45

    What mission?

    Throat soothing slurpee location

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:46

    We're getting quite popular, aren't we?

    http://drop.io...et/spc-on-the-n-e-jpg

    Good to see

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:46

    Ex-Pats? :D

    Nothing to do with me

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:47

    Nothing to do with me

    You're a 'now Pat' not an 'Ex' :D

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:47

    Eurgh I think I'm starting to get a hangover and I haven't even been to bed yet. This must be a bad sign....

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:47

    These are the US listeners? Impressive.

    expats from which countries though?!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:48

    Eurgh I think I'm starting to get a hangover and I haven't even been to bed yet. This must be a bad sign....

    That you stopped drinking, Yes?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:48

    expats from which countries though?!

    Non-Oval ones

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:48

    That you stopped drinking, Yes?

    I got drunk enough for it to seem like a good idea to do a jigsaw..... It was time to stop!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:49

    I got drunk enough for it to seem like a good idea to do a jigsaw..... It was time to stop!

    Does not compute [?]

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:50

    Non-Oval ones

    are you referring to the left left left left philosophy of motorsport?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 02:50

    Throat soothing slurpee location

    I went to the nearest pharmacy which is quite a hike and got there at 1.05 and they close at 1. So I had to come all the way back to the supermarket which is a lot closer, I should have gone there in the first place. But now I have strepsils with anaesthetic (the ones without are rrrrrrrrubbish) and a super-slurpee. Later I might go to the other close 7-11 and get a different flavour :D

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:51

    I got drunk enough for it to seem like a good idea to do a jigsaw..... It was time to stop!

    Stoned... maybe, but drunk? Jigsaws?

    Is it just me?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:51

    I got drunk enough for it to seem like a good idea to do a jigsaw..... It was time to stop!

    Clearly I've not drunk enough tonight. I will fix that tomorrow with red wine.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:51

    are you referring to the left left left left philosophy of motorsport?

    The 'M' word doesn't apply to the beginning of that sentance :)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:51

    Clearly I've not drunk enough tonight. I will fix that tomorrow with red wine.

    Sound the alarms because you know what my comments and tweets are like when I'm on red.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:52

    Is it just me?

    No

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:52

    Is it just me?

    No it was odd. It wasn't my idea.... Or my jigsaw. It was all over when my friend knocked the box off the table.....

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:52

    Plenty of Americans like non-oval racing. Ovals just happen to be quite popular now.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:53

    But now I have strepsils with anaesthetic (the ones without are rrrrrrrrubbish) and a super-slurpee. Later I might go to the other close 7-11 and get a different flavour :D

    You have medicated strepsils?

    Am jealous

    Is like the states, you can almost self medicate terminal diseases there

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:53

    You have medicated strepsils?

    You can buy them here :P

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:53

    No it was odd. It wasn't my idea.... Or my jigsaw. It was all over when my friend knocked the box off the table.....

    That happens

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 02:54

    You have medicated strepsils?

    they are called strepsils plus. brilliant things. now my mouth is numb!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:54

    You can buy them here :P

    Can't be strong enough then

    I want anti-biotic strpsils in boots :)

    [over-penicllinisation is bad, kids]

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 02:55

    they are called strepsils plus. brilliant things. now my mouth is numb!

    Strepsils Extra

    http://www.strepsils.co.uk/strepsils_products/product_range_strepsils_extra.php

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:55

    they are called strepsils plus. brilliant things. now my mouth is numb!

    Pah!

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:55

    Am jealous

    Is like the states, you can almost self medicate terminal diseases there

    i had to sign a nice form today to get pseudoephidrine today in the form of a sudafed thingy. It says I won't do nasty things with my

    medication

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 02:56

    i had to sign a nice form today to get pseudoephidrine today in the form of a sudafed thingy. It says I won't do nasty things with my

    medication

    ice, ice baby

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:57

    i had to sign a nice form today to get pseudoephidrine today in the form of a sudafed thingy. It says I won't do nasty things with my

    medication

    I love how the counter staff have to shout to the pharmacist when I buy Neurofen or Nytol, just to make sure I'm not manufacturing home-made pharmanaughtycals

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 02:57

    [over-penicllinisation is bad, kids]

    Over-penicllinisation should go in the dictionary

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 02:57

    Strepsils Extra

    http://www.str...e_strepsils_extra.php

    aw, I wish they came in blackcurrant here! Here they are blue and taste like menthol which is uuuugh.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:57

    i had to sign a nice form today to get pseudoephidrine today in the form of a sudafed thingy. It says I won't do nasty things with my

    medication

    Welcome to the U.S.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:58

    Over-penicllinisation should go in the dictionary

    The government should tase note at least

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 02:58

    aw, I wish they came in blackcurrant here! Here they are blue and taste like menthol which is uuuugh.

    Mmmmmenthol. :D

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 02:58

    aw, I wish they came in blackcurrant here! Here they are blue and taste like menthol which is uuuugh.

    EURGH! We also have cherry ones in the strong variety.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 02:58

    ice, ice baby

    :lol:

    Took me a little while

    [shh, as you were]

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 02:59

    ice, ice baby

    too cold too cold

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:00

    Speaking of Listener's Maps

    I really should sit down with Giggles and explain to him exactly WHY he is coming to The Philipines next year :)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 03:02

    I really should sit down with Giggles and explain to him exactly WHY he is coming to The Philipines next year :)

    To meet Journeyer and F1 Wolf?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:03

    To meet Journeyer and F1 Wolf?

    Aye

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:03

    To meet Journeyer and F1 Wolf?

    But it's more of 'you will' rather than 'you should'

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 03:03

    But it's more of 'you will' rather than 'you should'

    :)

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 03:04

    But it's more of 'you will' rather than 'you should'

    Hahaha poor Alex!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:04

    Hahaha poor Alex!

    I'll get him there cheaply and in style. Everyone wins

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 03:05

    3am suddenly happened. I should go to bed.

    Meeting Mum in the (late) morning for a coffee, then off to find a freezer and a webcam, feed some dogs some miles away, then wind my way back here for pizza and wine in the evening.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 03:05

    I'll get him there cheaply and in style. Everyone wins

    Am I allowed to start rumours about the two of you shacking up?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:05

    Am listening to Florence and her Machines

    Am surprised 'Kiss With A Fist' hasn't been ravaged by the Daily Mail yet

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:05

    Just realized NASA is reporting there is water on the moon! In the last few hours (or 8) they said there are quantities of the stuff on the south pole. Wow.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 03:06

    3am suddenly happened. I should go to bed.

    Meeting Mum in the (late) morning for a coffee, then off to find a freezer and a webcam, feed some dogs some miles away, then wind my way back here for pizza and wine in the evening.

    sounds like a lovely day! Goodnight.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:06

    Am I allowed to start rumours about the two of you shacking up?

    If you like, if it diverts from the 'real gossip' :D

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 03:06

    Am I allowed to start rumours about the two of you shacking up?

    No. :P

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 03:06

    To meet Journeyer and F1 Wolf?

    oh, that is still on ? :-) cool

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 03:06

    sounds like a lovely day! Goodnight.

    You haven't seen the weather!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:06

    3am suddenly happened. I should go to bed.

    Meeting Mum in the (late) morning for a coffee, then off to find a freezer and a webcam, feed some dogs some miles away, then wind my way back here for pizza and wine in the evening.

    Good luck dude

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:07

    oh, that is still on ? :-) cool

    Quite possible though unconfirmed. It's like Bernie's calendar

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:08

    Am I allowed to start rumours about the two of you shacking up?

    No. :P

    We're already (in SPC worldwide terms) almost neighbours

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:08

    Just realized NASA is reporting there is water on the moon! In the last few hours (or 8) they said there are quantities of the stuff on the south pole. Wow.

    That came out earlier today. They found it in a crater at the lunar south pole that never gets above some stupidly low temperature

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 03:08

    Quite possible though unconfirmed. It's like Bernie's calendar

    You can take my name off the list! Even bribing with Finns won't work, I have spent enough money for 2010 already!

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:08

    Have fun pat!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 03:08

    You can take my name off the list! Even bribing with Finns won't work, I have spent enough money for 2010 already!

    BOO.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 03:09

    If you like, if it diverts from the 'real gossip' :D

    Grand. That's that settled then.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:09

    You can take my name off the list! Even bribing with Finns won't work, I have spent enough money for 2010 already!

    I'm already holding your hair back in Belgium, so I'll let you off!

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:10

    That came out earlier today. They found it in a crater at the lunar south pole that never gets above some stupidly low temperature

    i figured you know but I catch up on today's news hours after it happened.

    Have you seen the ntsb 3d animation of the flight that landed in the Hudson river earlier in the year? Nothing to do with water or the moon

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:11

    Have you seen the ntsb 3d animation of the flight that landed in the Hudson river earlier in the year? Nothing to do with water or the moon

    Ooh, link please

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:13

    You can take my name off the list! Even bribing with Finns won't work, I have spent enough money for 2010 already!

    Ammended

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/SPC+International+Meet-Up+2010+[SE+Asia+Edition]

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:14

    Have you seen the ntsb 3d animation of the flight that landed in the Hudson river earlier in the year? Nothing to do with water or the moon

    Was that a double bird strike?

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:15

    Tv.repubblica.it/home

    then you'll see a few different boxes of choices-do a find on the page for Hudson

    and yeah I still look at Italian news but this story is just the tower conversations and animation and one very cool pilot

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:17

    Was that a double bird strike?

    yeah.

    No sound on the video for the first little bit. Don't panic:)

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:17

    Have you seen the ntsb 3d animation of the flight that landed in the Hudson river earlier in the year? Nothing to do with water or the moon

    No but I see Channel 4 are planning on crashing a 777 to see what happens

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:17

    Was that a double bird strike?

    Presumably bird strike to both engines

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:18

    and yeah I still look at Italian news but this story is just the tower conversations and animation and one very cool pilot

    Think I've heard the Tower thing on a YouTube vid

    Considered going into Air Crash Investigation in the past. A couple of colleagues went out to Paris to piece together the Air France Concorde debris, was jealous in a strange way. I like solving things

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:18

    Presumably bird strike to both engines

    Sorry, that's what I meant by 'double'

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 03:19

    Considered going into Air Crash Investigation in the past. A couple of colleagues went out to Paris to piece together the Air France Concorde debris, was jealous in a strange way. I like solving things

    Do you not just spend your whole career trying to do yourself out of a job?

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:19

    Considered going into Air Crash Investigation in the past. A couple of colleagues went out to Paris to piece together the Air France Concorde debris, was jealous in a strange way. I like solving things

    are you in the aircraft biz? Solving things is rewarding.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:20

    Do you not just spend your whole career trying to do yourself out of a job?

    No, nature finds new ways to eff things up

    Human error is still no.1 in terms of causes i think

    Technology just tries to pre-empt it

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:21

    are you in the aircraft biz? Solving things is rewarding.

    Am an Aircraft Engineer by trade, once once on Concordde Major Maintenance

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:21

    This is the Channel 4 story

    http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/blog/article/345091/

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:21

    *was once

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:21

    Better link is to google

    exosphere 3d Hudson

    which is the company that made the animation of the flight

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 03:22

    Finally I found something in the Czech news on that F1 in Prague story. It does look like the whole thing is based on what Mr Charouz said to autosport. (And that is not the first time he said something about F1 in Prague - first time was in 2006 and the track was to be ready in 2009 ... They haven't even started digging ...)

    So, this new story is ridiculed by Czech media ...

    Charouz is a guy with motorosport background though, former racer himself, he manages career of Tomas Enge and his son was in A1GP and recently tested GP2 (last week in Paul Ricard). But he is hardly a man able to secure F1 race ...

    here is the link to biggest czech news portal if you feel like translating in online:

    http://sport.idnes.cz/formule-1-v-praze-pokus-cislo-2-podnikatel-charouz-zase-prasil-pt6-/motorsport.asp?c=A091113_144020_motorsport_fil

    Already the title of the article in not exactly kind to Charouz but is a play of words that is not easy to translate to English :-)

    I am going to dig around some more info, if I get anything worthy I may make blog post about that.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:22

    exosphere 3d Hudson

    Ta

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:22

    Am an Aircraft Engineer by trade, once once on Concordde Major Maintenance

    interesting work?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 03:23

    Considered going into Air Crash Investigation in the past. A couple of colleagues went out to Paris to piece together the Air France Concorde debris, was jealous in a strange way. I like solving things

    ooh you should do that and then go on TV. Air Crash Investigation is one of my favourite shows. People tell me that's weird, but I love it

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:25

    interesting work?

    Used to be. At Heathrow we used to change undercarriage legs, engines & intakes as routine

    Now all the 'heavy stuff' is done outside London.

    These days I'm more of a project manager/planner, which has it's own challeneges

    Don't miss fuel tank work though, ALL supersonic aircraft leak... like sieves

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:25

    ooh you should do that and then go on TV. Air Crash Investigation is one of my favourite shows. People tell me that's weird, but I love it

    i think many of us here love that show because we think tech. That being said sitting at the airport watching die hard 2 (the airport one) was not the most relaxing evening.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:25

    ooh you should do that and then go on TV. Air Crash Investigation is one of my favourite shows. People tell me that's weird, but I love it

    I have never seen it but I love things like that where you have to figure out the story

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:25

    ooh you should do that and then go on TV. Air Crash Investigation is one of my favourite shows. People tell me that's weird, but I love it

    I'm getting to the point where I may start enquiring again. Think I'm under-qualified though

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 03:26

    ooh you should do that and then go on TV. Air Crash Investigation is one of my favourite shows. People tell me that's weird, but I love it

    me too , Tuesday nights 1 am Nat Geo :-)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:26

    i think many of us here love that show because we think tech. That being said sitting at the airport watching die hard 2 (the airport one) was not the most relaxing evening.

    Full of mis-truths

    My 'ex' hated watching that with me :)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:27

    I have never seen it but I love things like that where you have to figure out the story

    You should, I think you'd like

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 03:27

    I have never seen it but I love things like that where you have to figure out the story

    it's actually on tonight which excites me. Tonights episode is on this

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:28

    I'm getting to the point where I may start enquiring again. Think I'm under-qualified though

    But you have sidepodcast on your side. If you have a tricky crash just let us have the details and we will sort it out

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:28

    But you have sidepodcast on your side. If you have a tricky crash just let us have the details and we will sort it out

    This is true

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:29

    My 'ex' hated watching that with me :)

    I can only imagine. And it is why I don't watch CSI.

    Bed time for me folks. I need to take it easy before going shopping over the weekend to fill up my apartment.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:30

    it's actually on tonight which excites me. Tonights episode is on this

    Seen it, is an odd one

    Aircraft operations have apparently been modded to prevent recurrurence

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:30

    See ya Boston ;)

  • The Boston Red Scott14/11/2009 at 03:34

    See ya Boston ;)

    ciao ;)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:34

    See ya Boston ;)

    ciao ;)

    He answered, you all witnessed it

    That's how nicknames are born!

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 03:36

    ohhh too much slurpee. I need to go sleep it off. Bye all!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:37

    ohhh too much slurpee. I need to go sleep it off. Bye all!

    Ice cream headache!

    Happy napping

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:44

    ohhh too much slurpee. I need to go sleep it off. Bye all!

    Brain freeze?

    How can you be going to bed before me?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:45

    How can you be going to bed before me?

    It's just not right

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:47

    It's just not right

    Especially as Amy was the one complaining about people going to bed too early and she goes to bed at what? 5pm?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:48

    Especially as Amy was the one complaining about people going to bed too early and she goes to bed at what? 5pm?

    Less than 3pm

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 03:51

    Less than 3pm

    That's bad

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:51

    Silly Platial Map and it's U.S. centric sentiments

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 03:58

    Silly Platial Map and it's U.S. centric sentiments

    Sidepod Listener's Map issues

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 04:01

    Sidepod Listener's Map issues

    What's up?

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 04:03

    What's up?

    Tried to put a marker in by address and ended up in Philadelhia!

    Sorted now, is where it should be, in Sydney Australia!

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 04:04

    Tried to put a marker in by address and ended up in Philadelhia!

    That happens a lot. I am sure Alex had a flag in the USA for a while

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 04:05

    Now that we have entertained Amy I am off to bed. See you later.

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 04:05

    Sorted now, is where it should be, in Sydney Australia!

    Here, I think

    Don't know how you link to a map location, it's a little flawed

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 04:05

    Now that we have entertained Amy I am off to bed. See you later.

    G'night Steven

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 04:06

    That happens a lot. I am sure Alex had a flag in the USA for a while

    Deletion is easy!

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 04:07

    Asians, Australasions, lend me your ears :)

  • Bassano Clapper14/11/2009 at 04:17

    Asians, Australasions, lend me your ears :)

    Ah well, such elementary spelling mistakes mean I should retire too

    Good morning to the early risers, we just missed you

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 06:21

    How much do you trust The Guardian and Alan Henry (who has been around for more than a while)?

    A contract [between Button and McLaren] could be signed as early as next week if terms can be finalised...

    McLaren have made Kimi Raikkonen their second choice if the Button approach fails, with Nick Heidfeld third favourite.

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 07:07

    A contract [between Button and McLaren] could be signed as early as next week if terms can be finalised...

    taking a Rubens stance and refusing to believe it still I see it...

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 07:10

    taking a Rubens stance and refusing to believe it still I see it...

    me too.

  • lukeh14/11/2009 at 07:22

    boo. Another saturday another long day of work. Plus someone angered the wind and rain gods last night i think...!!!!

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 07:23

    boo. Another saturday another long day of work. Plus someone angered the wind and rain gods last night i think...!!!!

    :( must be criminal to be up so early!

  • lukeh14/11/2009 at 07:29

    :( must be criminal to be up so early!

    i have gotten to know 6am on a saturday too well :p

    Although it does help when the early races are on..

  • lukeh14/11/2009 at 07:36

    hmm.. That last sentence reminded me of JD on Scrubs. Anyways, see you all for Cars this evening :) have a good day!!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 07:37

    me too.

    if the unthinkable happens and kimi ends up at brawn, will you approve of it, amy?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 07:38

    hmm.. That last sentence reminded me of JD on Scrubs. Anyways, see you all for Cars this evening :) have a good day!!

    Later Lukeh.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 07:43

    if the unthinkable happens and kimi ends up at brawn, will you approve of it, amy?

    I'd approve of that more than I'd approve of Jenson at McLaren.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 07:44

    I'd approve of that more than I'd approve of Jenson at McLaren.

    Will we see you jump ship to Brawn then? :D You can watch Kimi annihilate Nico...

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 07:49

    Will we see you jump ship to Brawn then? :D You can watch Kimi annihilate Nico...

    pssh no, I've always been a team fan first and foremost. I've just been lucky in that McLaren have never had a driver I don't like before. I don't want that to happen in the year I go to four races!

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 07:51

    New Zealand up 1:0 after 1st half

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 07:52

    pssh no, I've always been a team fan first and foremost. I've just been lucky in that McLaren have never had a driver I don't like before. I don't want that to happen in the year I go to four races!

    So you'd root for Jenson in the McLaren to beat Kimi in the Brawn at Spa, for example? :)

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 07:53

    So you'd root for Jenson in the McLaren to beat Kimi in the Brawn at Spa, for example? :)

    I'd just root for Lewis.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 07:54

    I'd just root for Lewis.

    :D What if he was already out of the race, for example? ;)

    Haha! I'm pressuring you to choose one. :D

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 07:54

    So you'd root for Jenson in the McLaren to beat Kimi in the Brawn at Spa, for example?

    Kimi in Brawn does not sound very likely, he must be asking more than Button ...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 07:55

    Kimi in Brawn does not sound very likely, he must be asking more than Button ...

    It's very unlikely. But again, stranger things have happened... And you never know if Mercedes is more willing to pay for Kimi's salary than they're willing to pay for Jenson's...

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 07:56

    Haha! I'm pressuring you to choose one. :D

    well then it'd be Kimi :D

    Even as a McLaren fan, I'd be happy if Jenson went there and never won a race. #badmclarenfan #sorrylou

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 07:57

    well then it'd be Kimi :D

    Even as a McLaren fan, I'd be happy if Jenson went there and never won a race. #badmclarenfan #sorrylou

    Heheheh. :D Would be very interesting if that did happen at Spa, and you and Lou were sitting together. You'd both be so conflicted. ;)

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:01

    Heheheh. :D Would be very interesting if that did happen at Spa, and you and Lou were sitting together. You'd both be so conflicted. ;)

    good thing it won't happen then :D I can't see Brawn paying Kimi more than they'd pay Jenson.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:02

    "How much do you trust The Guardian and Alan Henry (who has been around for more than a while)?

    A contract [between Button and McLaren] could be signed as early as next week if terms can be finalised...

    McLaren have made Kimi Raikkonen their second choice if the Button approach fails, with Nick Heidfeld third favourite."

    This is on 5Live this morning and driving me wild....

    If this happens I will:-

    a. Go into a decline

    b. Completely change my holiday plans for next year

    c. Make sure I never buy another Merc or a Macca car (added to the Ferraris of course)

    c. Not vote for Jenson in SPOTY

    And that's only the start.....

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:03

    "I can't see Brawn paying Kimi more than they'd pay Jenson."

    Well I would.... and Norbert possibly would too....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:03

    good thing it won't happen then :D I can't see Brawn paying Kimi more than they'd pay Jenson.

    There is a good train of thought saying that the Kimi-McLaren dispute may not necessarily be about the money. If that's true, and Brawn can provide Kimi with whatever non-financial thing he's looking for, it can still happen.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:04

    This is on 5Live this morning and driving me wild....

    You're not alone. I hope Joe or JA comes out with something more concrete on this story.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:04

    There is a good train of thought saying that the Kimi-McLaren dispute may not necessarily be about the money. If that's true, and Brawn can provide Kimi with whatever non-financial thing he's looking for, it can still happen.

    I might track the Robertsons down and slap some sense into them. I blame them for the fact nothing is signed.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:08

    I might track the Robertsons down and slap some sense into them. I blame them for the fact nothing is signed.

    Because it's in their favor nothing is signed, to be honest.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:10

    Because it's in their favor nothing is signed, to be honest.

    exactly. Boo them.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:11

    There are several reasons Macca would choose Jenson.....

    1. They get a No. 1 on their cars, although it would be funny to see Lewis as No.2

    2. He's cheap

    3. Lewis much, much, prefers the idea of Jenson to Kimi

    From a supporters point of view it will make Macca universally hated outside the UK (and with some inside Britain too.....) as a soley British team.....

    The last time they bought the No.1 it only led to strife.... you'd have thought they would have learned their lesson....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:12

    exactly. Boo them.

    If Jenson does move to McLaren, it will be very interesting to see how he fares versus Lewis, and versus whoever becomes team leader at Brawn. If, for example, Lewis beats him, and they both get beaten by a Brawn driver to the title, Jenson's F1 career is more or less finished.

    If there's one thing Jenson should've learned by now, it's to not overcomplicate his contract negotiations... I sincerely hope he hasn't forgetten Buttongate I and II just 4-5 years ago...

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:13

    From a supporters point of view it will make Macca universally hated outside the UK (and with some inside Britain too.....) as a soley British team.....

    exactly, I know there is a lot of people who love the idea of a British team with two British drivers, but from a "not British" perspective, I think it's a terrible idea.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:15

    And as to Brawn...

    The idea of Nico leading the team next year is laughable...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:15

    The last time they bought the No.1 it only led to strife.... you'd have thought they would have learned their lesson....

    It won't cause strife this time round - Lewis would knock the stuffing out of Jenson. On the other hand, Brawn will also be affected, but probably not as badly - especially if they get a Nick or a Kimi.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:15

    The idea of Nico leading the team next year is laughable...

    I hope they really come to regret letting go of Rubens. I'm such a bad person.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:16

    The idea of Nico leading the team next year is laughable...

    Unless they get Ant in the other seat, Nico won't lead the team. It'll be Kimi or Nick leading it.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:17

    Unless they get Ant in the other seat, Nico won't lead the team. It'll be Kimi or Nick leading it.

    I wanna cause chaos here - how about, in a super-shocker, Michael Schumacher recruited to come back to F1 in a Brawn. Mercedes will also be willing to pay whatever is necessary for Michael to FINALLY win a title with Mercedes.

    Physically, it's near-impossible. But again, stranger things...

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:20

    I wanna cause chaos here - how about, in a super-shocker, Michael Schumacher recruited to come back to F1 in a Brawn. Mercedes will also be willing to pay whatever is necessary for Michael to FINALLY win a title with Mercedes.

    you are so full of crazy ideas ;)

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:20

    "If Jenson does move to McLaren, it will be very interesting to see how he fares versus Lewis, and versus whoever becomes team leader at Brawn. If, for example, Lewis beats him, and they both get beaten by a Brawn driver to the title, Jenson's F1 career is more or less finished."

    Surely he doesn't expect to go to Macca and be able to fit in and get the better of Lewis.... if he does he's dreaming....

    Only Kimi stands a chance....

    I think Brawn are playing hardball as Jense really, really doesn't want to go to Macca....

    I am praying that this is just a try on by Macca and Jense to help them get what they want...

    Macca want Kimi cheap and Jense wants more from Brawn.....

    Not sure I'd want to play poker with Kimi or Ross to be quite honest....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:21

    you are so full of crazy ideas ;)

    heheh. all I'm doing is looking back at F1 history, and looking at what's available to make some at-least-somewhat-credible rumors. ;)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:22

    Not sure I'd want to play poker with Kimi or Ross to be quite honest....

    But all we need to happen is for one person to have enough of the mess, terminate negotiations, and make Jenson-McLaren happen.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:22

    "I wanna cause chaos here - how about, in a super-shocker, Michael Schumacher recruited to come back to F1 in a Brawn. Mercedes will also be willing to pay whatever is necessary for Michael to FINALLY win a title with Mercedes."

    Michael is under contract to Ferrari and there is still no certainty Felipe will be 100%.... think about Ralf after Indy....

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:22

    But all we need to happen is for one person to have enough of the mess, terminate negotiations, and make Jenson-McLaren happen.

    and then that one person needs to watch their back. The mob of anger will get them!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:23

    Michael is under contract to Ferrari and there is still no certainty Felipe will be 100%.... think about Ralf after Indy....

    Mercedes can buy him out. Michael can buy himself out.

    And if Felipe isn't 100%, it'll be Fisi taking his place, as per contract.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:24

    and then that one person needs to watch their back. The mob of anger will get them!

    :D

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:25

    "But all we need to happen is for one person to have enough of the mess, terminate negotiations, and make Jenson-McLaren happen."

    Then bye bye Jenson....

    To another title and SPOTY....

    Given that Lewis mentioning how he'd like Jense as a team-mate drew any a pathetic little cheer at Brooklands I really don't think many Macca fans want it either....

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:26

    "And if Felipe isn't 100%, it'll be Fisi taking his place, as per contract."

    That's not going to happen after this year....

    The funniest thing would be if Ferrari went on bended knee to Kimi....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:26

    Given that Lewis mentioning how he'd like Jense as a team-mate drew any a pathetic little cheer at Brooklands I really don't think many Macca fans want it either....

    British McLaren fans would want it. Vodafone would LOVE it. Outside the UK, though, it might be a mass defection of fans to Brawn, Red Bull and Ferrari. ;)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:27

    The funniest thing would be if Ferrari went on bended knee to Kimi....

    They won't. Too much pride. Besides, it'll make their lives with Alonso a LOT easier.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:27

    "British McLaren fans would want it"

    So why no big cheer at Brooklands....

    I don't think so....

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:28

    British McLaren fans would want it. Vodafone would LOVE it. Outside the UK, though, it might be a mass defection of fans to Brawn, Red Bull and Ferrari. ;)

    Maybe Vodafone UK but they're a pretty large worldwide company.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:29

    So why no big cheer at Brooklands....

    You haven't been looking around the forums much - there's more than a few who'd love to see it happen.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:29

    "They won't. Too much pride. Besides, it'll make their lives with Alonso a LOT easier."

    And no chance of a WCC....

    Actually if Kimi was at Red Bull in 2011 that may be OK.....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:29

    And no chance of a WCC....

    ...in 2010. But it opens up the door for them to chase Kubica or Vettel for 2011. Then they'd be set for the next 3-4 years, maybe even more.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:31

    "You haven't been looking around the forums much - there's more than a few who'd love to see it happen."

    But no-one here and why no cheer from the guys at Brooklands... I found that telling .....

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:32

    You haven't been looking around the forums much - there's more than a few who'd love to see it happen.

    on the Team McLaren members forum most of the posts are like this:

    I dread the thought of Jenson coming to Mclaren. I remember only to well his disloyalty to BAR/Williams when he couldn't make his mind up. I've never liked him since then, so bloody big headed & full of himself, always excuses from him, never admits to his own mistakes.

    I've really tried to like him cos he's British, but just can't.

    Its Kimi we need!

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:32

    "But it opens up the door for them to chase Kubica or Vettel for 2011. Then they'd be set for the next 3-4 years, maybe even more."

    Sorry don't make me laugh...

    Whinging Kubes in the same team as Fernando... and Vettel is signed past 2010....

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 08:34

    Morning everyone... Seems to be a bit stormy out there!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:34

    But no-one here and why no cheer from the guys at Brooklands... I found that telling .....

    Look at Planet-F1, F1Fanatic, Autosport...

    Those who were at Brooklands were the serious F1 fans who would prefer to see the best 2 drivers in the car. The rest of the UK (i.e. the casual fans) don't necessarily think the same way - they'd want to see the best 2 British drivers in the best car available.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:36

    "Its Kimi we need!"

    It's amazing how much support the Kimster has....

    All round the world...

    More flags and banners except for Spain and Silverstone everywhere you go.... and in the few places where he isn't top he's second...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:36

    Whinging Kubes in the same team as Fernando... and Vettel is signed past 2010....

    Alonso and Kubica are best buds - similar interests, similar driving setup. If anything, Kubica would be the best teammate for Alonso.

    As for Vettel, I would assume that the contract has performance clauses. If the team fails to meet it, Vettel can very easily become a free agent. And every big team is waiting for the first opportunity to get him - Ferrari, McLaren, Brawn...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:38

    More flags and banners except for Spain and Silverstone everywhere you go.... and in the few places where he isn't top he's second...

    He's not Top 2 in Brazil, or in Australia, or even in Italy by next year. Kimi still has great support, make no mistake, but it's been on the wane the last few years.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:40

    "He's not Top 2 in Brazil, or in Australia, or even in Italy by next year. Kimi still has great support, make no mistake, but it's been on the wane the last few years."

    At the many races I have been to this year it's been very very clear....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:41

    At the many races I have been to this year it's been very very clear....

    At the two races I went to in the last 2 years (Singapore and Malaysia), Lewis was clearly #1, with Jenson #2, and Kimi #3, just ahead of Felipe.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 08:41

    "Alonso and Kubica are best buds - similar interests, similar driving setup. If anything, Kubica would be the best teammate for Alonso."

    Oh yes...

    Best friends makes best team mates...

    They are both inclined to moan... it would be a team disaster...

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:41

    He's not Top 2 in Brazil, or in Australia, or even in Italy by next year. Kimi still has great support, make no mistake, but it's been on the wane the last few years.

    I'd say he would be in Australia easily.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:42

    At the two races I went to in the last 2 years (Singapore and Malaysia), Lewis was clearly #1, with Jenson #2, and Kimi #3, just ahead of Felipe.

    I don't recall seeing any Jenson fans in Singapore ;)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:42

    Best friends makes best team mates...

    The Alonso-Trulli pairing in 2003 and 2004 went along fine - no problems between the two of them at all. Only Flavio started the controversy with Trulli.

    And the two of them are still great friends.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:43

    I don't recall seeing any Jenson fans in Singapore ;)

    You should've been at Malaysia this year. :P

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:43

    I'd say he would be in Australia easily.

    I was thinking #3 behind Lewis and Webbo.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 08:45

    I dread the thought of Jenson coming to Mclaren. I remember only to well his disloyalty to BAR/Williams when he couldn't make his mind up. I've never liked him since then, so bloody big headed & full of himself, always excuses from him, never admits to his own mistakes.

    I've really tried to like him cos he's British, but just can't.

    I think that is a bit harsh. I will admit that Jenson's contract dispute was not complementary, but look at how well Jenson worked with his team mate this year. He is a genuinely nice guy. In contrast I personally find Kimi very rude and disrespectful to the industry that actually provides the vast incomes these guys make. I think the idea of Lewis and Jenson together would be a fantastic prospect (obviously I would prefer Nick, but that is just bias on my part and based on the fact that he is good driver and a very professional one).

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:45

    I was thinking #3 behind Lewis and Webbo.

    nah, you must remember that Melbourne has a huuuuuge Italian population and it's Ferrari or bust. People wearing Kimi gear outnumber those wearing Massa gear by huge margins.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:46

    nah, you must remember that Melbourne has a huuuuuge Italian population and it's Ferrari or bust. People wearing Kimi gear outnumber those wearing Massa gear by huge margins.

    Only because Massa's shirts are actually those of Luca Badoer. :D

    And if that's the case, you can say those Ferrari or bust people switch to Alonso this year, right?

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 08:47

    And the two of them are still great friends.

    Indeed they still are - generally Trulli is popular among the drivers (though not with Sutil).

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:47

    And if that's the case, you can say those Ferrari or bust people switch to Alonso this year, right?

    I'll report back in March.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 08:48

    Indeed they still are - generally Trulli is popular among the drivers (though not with Sutil).

    :D :D

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 08:54

    Alonso and Kubica - I am sure Alonso would want it - because he knows he could beat him easily (and he is considered to be a very good racer) so his reputation will improve further still.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:57

    wooo NZ is going to the World Cup!

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 08:58

    wooo NZ is going to the World Cup!

    yep, just finished watching the game. missed penalty and disallowed goal by Bahrain , that's what it took :-)

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 08:59

    yep, just finished watching the game. missed penalty and disallowed goal by Bahrain , that's what it took :-)

    heh I don't even care about football so I wasn't watching, but it's pretty cool because they haven't been since 1982 :D

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:01

    yep, just finished watching the game. missed penalty and disallowed goal by Bahrain , that's what it took :-)

    that'll be controversial. :P but good on the Kiwis! :D

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:17

    JA: Button and McLaren opt for a piece of theatre

    Excellent point by JA - Brawn will look at this objectively. If he thinks Button isn't worth the trouble, then he WILL let him go.

    Of McLaren, Kimi, Brawn, and Jenson, it's the current World Champion who has the most to lose, oddly enough. He might end up with less than he started with. If Kimi decided to give way to McLaren's request (although I think it's unlikely), and he and McLaren end up making a deal, Jenson will have to beg Ross to give him a seat.

    Also FTA:

    As McLaren steers towards a new future without Mercedes from 2012 onwards, keeping self esteem high and the sponsors happy right now [partly by having two world champions in your team] is an important strategy.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:19
  • Amy14/11/2009 at 09:23

    As McLaren steers towards a new future without Mercedes from 2012 onwards, keeping self esteem high and the sponsors happy right now [partly by having two world champions in your team] is an important strategy.

    Lewis and Kimi are both world champions. Done. ;)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:24

    Lewis and Kimi are both world champions. Done. ;)

    I knew it you'd say that. Lemme quote the whole paragraph for context:

    A little of this could be McLaren looking to give Brawn some pain for the way the Mercedes talks have gone.

    Also having two world champions in your team underlines your status. McLaren are very keen at the moment to underline that they and Ferrari are the really big names in F1, they carry the weight. As McLaren steers towards a new future without Mercedes from 2012 onwards, keeping self esteem high and the sponsors happy right now is an important strategy.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 09:27

    Lewis and Kimi are both world champions. Done. ;)

    Yes but Jenson won the world championship much more convincingly and did not need a race gifted to him to get the crown.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 09:28

    Yes but Jenson won the world championship much more convincingly and did not need a race gifted to him to get the crown.

    I'm not getting into that again.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:29

    I'm not getting into that again.

    It's times like these I wish there were more important stuff to talk about.

    Like Nick and Alison, for example. ;)

    KIDDING! :D

    Seriously, though, I hope this gets settled one way or another already. Whatever the truth, it's given Bernie the perfect smokescreen for the future of the British GP.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 09:33

    I'm not getting into that again.

    Jenson lead the championship from the start, won more races than any other driver this year and more than either Kimi or Lewis won in their championship years and proved he could overtake. Actually it seems that Brawn stopped developing the car when Button and the team had a clear lead so I do not think you can say he faded either, simply from mid year onwards other teams were better.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:36

    Actually it seems that Brawn stopped developing the car when Button and the team had a clear lead so I do not think you can say he faded either, simply from mid year onwards other teams were better.

    But there is that small issue of Rubens beating him in points from GBR on, which is why I think the fading argument is valid.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:36

    On another note:

    Can you say "firestorm"?

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 09:40

    "Yes but Jenson won the world championship much more convincingly and did not need a race gifted to him to get the crown."

    In your dreams do people rate Jense more highly than Kimi...

    And that Nick is a match for either...

    Sorry Rich....

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 09:41

    Jenson lead the championship from the start, won more races than any other driver this year and more than either Kimi or Lewis won in their championship years and proved he could overtake.

    Kimi and Jenson both won 6 races in their championship years. I'm not even going to get into races being gifted because any team in that situation would do it. Kimi won his races throughout the year, and also was on the podium 6 other times, ie, twice what Jenson was this year. Kimi can clearly overtake, he's won from 17th.

    simply from mid year onwards other teams were better.

    and that's why his team mate won twice while he did nothing of note?

    It's totally a matter of opinion. You think Jenson won his more convincingly, and I think Kimi did. There's no point arguing the same points over and over because no ones going to change their opinion.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 09:46

    "It's totally a matter of opinion. You think Jenson won his more convincingly, and I think Kimi did. There's no point arguing the same points over and over because no ones going to change their opinion."

    True...

    Even though your arguments are the right ones Amy....

    And I never thought I'd be positive about JA but I do hope that his piece of theatre stuff is correct....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:47

    And I never thought I'd be positive about JA but I do hope that his piece of theatre stuff is correct....

    I sincerely hope Joe blogs about this very soon.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 09:47

    But there is that small issue of Rubens beating him in points from GBR on, which is why I think the fading argument is valid.

    I think there are multiple explanations here. Firstly Rubens is actually a very good and prized driver. If I were a team I would love to have his skills in my team. Secondly Brawn made changes to the brakes which suited Ruben's softer pedal (Jenson uses a harder touch). Jenson had a good lead, and in part he played it safe as a strategy. I think the team faded more than Button did. I do think Button's fading is greatly exaggerated.

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 09:48

    I sincerely hope Joe blogs about this very soon.

    he just did

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 09:49

    I sincerely hope Joe blogs about this very soon.

    From what I understand McLaren’s enthusiasm for Button is under control and Kimi is the man that they would really like to see but if he wants too much then they will “settle” with partnering the World Champion with his predecessor.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:49

    I think there are multiple explanations here. Firstly Rubens is actually a very good and prized driver. If I were a team I would love to have his skills in my team. Secondly Brawn made changes to the brakes which suited Ruben's softer pedal (Jenson uses a harder touch). Jenson had a good lead, and in part he played it safe as a strategy. I think the team faded more than Button did. I do think Button's fading is greatly exaggerated.

    But Jenson won no races at all since Turkey, while Rubens won 2 in the same car. I understand playing it safe, but when the car is good enough for a win, you go for it.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:49

    he just did

    I SWEAR that wasn't there 5 minutes ago...

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 09:50

    I SWEAR that wasn't there 5 minutes ago...

    nope it was not, it came up on twitter just when typed your message :-)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:50

    From what I understand McLaren’s enthusiasm for Button is under control and Kimi is the man that they would really like to see but if he wants too much then they will “settle” with partnering the World Champion with his predecessor.

    This is even bigger for me:

    I think it is now fair to say that Button and Raikkonen will get the Brawn and McLarens drives. It is simply a question of which driver goes which way.

    Raikkonen at Brawn... Mmm, not bad.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 09:52

    Like Nick and Alison, for example. ;)

    wha?

    I'm in deepest darkest dorset! There are animals and everything!

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 09:52

    Morning all.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:53

    Compare and contrast Joe's:

    It may all be a piece of theatre because ultimately Mercedes-Benz will probably decide as the word is that they will taking over Brawn in December. In which case the question of Jenson’s salary ought to be solved in about 12 seconds flat.

    With JA's:

    [Mercedes-Benz] have no say in the driver decisions, even if they have some influence.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:54

    Morning all.

    Morning, Christine. How's your Saturday morning?

    Much chatter this morning over Button's visit to Woking yesterday.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 09:54

    In your dreams do people rate Jense more highly than Kimi...

    maybe not rate, but they are close, and jenson brings far more to a team than kimi

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 09:54

    Morning all!

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 09:54

    It may all be a piece of theatre because ultimately Mercedes-Benz will probably decide as the word is that they will taking over Brawn in December. In which case the question of Jenson’s salary ought to be solved in about 12 seconds flat.

    [Mercedes-Benz] have no say in the driver decisions, even if they have some influence.

    may not be contradiction. one is talking about the current situation, the other about what the situation may be in a month time

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 09:55

    Morning all!

    this is frustrating to read here at 6pm :-)

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 09:55

    Morning all.

    morning!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:55

    maybe not rate, but they are close, and jenson brings far more to a team than kimi

    And again, it's about what you have already and what Kimi can add to that. From Joe:

    Raikkonen is good – particularly when Felipe Massa was no longer there as a yardstick – but he is not much use with sponsors and the media and when you have Lewis Hamilton onboard the need for an apparently charmless individual who dit-dit, dar-dars his way through PR events is probably not what you need.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 09:57

    jenson brings far more to a team than kimi

    again, a matter of opinion

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 09:57

    this is frustrating to read here at 6pm :-)

    Evening all!

    better? ;)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:57

    And again, it's about what you have already and what Kimi can add to that.

    *already have...

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 09:57

    But Jenson won no races at all since Turkey, while Rubens won 2 in the same car. I understand playing it safe, but when the car is good enough for a win, you go for it.

    You have a point about the two races. I am also sure if the braking systems had suited Rubens earlier in the season Jenson might not be World Champion. Still it is raced over a season and it is the best overall driver and this year Jenson did more convincingly than many previous drivers.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 09:57

    Much chatter this morning over Button's visit to Woking yesterday.

    Ah. Is there much to say? He went there which either means he is in talks with them or he was just being friendly.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 09:58

    Ah. Is there much to say? He went there which either means he is in talks with them or he was just being friendly.

    It tells me people are getting frustrated with the charades and want it decided one way or the other already. :D

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 09:58

    Ah. Is there much to say? He went there which either means he is in talks with them or he was just being friendly.

    My thoughts exactly

  • F1Wolf14/11/2009 at 09:58

    better?

    better :-)

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 09:59

    Raikkonen is good - particularly when Felipe Massa was no longer there as a yardstick - but he is not much use with sponsors and the media and when you have Lewis Hamilton onboard the need for an apparently charmless individual who dit-dit, dar-dars his way through PR events is probably not what you need.

    We still have no idea how good (or bad) that Ferrari was). Felipe was very consistently hauling in the points just prior to the accident when Kimi had little more than one third-place to show.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 10:00

    again, a matter of opinion

    I meant media/p.r./marketing

    I really like kimi, but if I.was running mclaren I would be very wary or hireing him at a time the team was changing so much...

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 10:01

    We still have no idea how good (or bad) that Ferrari was). Felipe was very consistently hauling in the points just prior to the accident when Kimi had little more than one third-place to show.

    He was only "hauling" in the points from Spain,

  • Lewis14/11/2009 at 10:02

    Morning!

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:03

    jenson brings far more to a team than kimi

    again, a matter of opinion

    Well its not a matter of opinion when it comes to amount of PR work. Kimi simply does not want to be bothered with it and Jenson (like Lewis) does usually give value in that area. There is rift between Button and Brawn which I think explains Jenson's recent non appearance at Brawn celebrations and I think it is sad. Jenson is also not asking the humongous amounts that Kimi is wanting so he is better value. Brawn's offer is 4 million pounds so there is no chance of Kimi joining that team.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:04

    Brawn's offer is 4 million pounds so there is no chance of Kimi joining that team.

    Unless of course Mercedes is willing to pay for Kimi, but not for Jenson.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:06

    Unless of course Mercedes is willing to pay for Kimi, but not for Jenson.

    Mercedes have already picked up the tags for Nico. The second driver is for Brawn's account.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 10:06

    There is rift between Button and Brawn which I think explains Jenson's recent non appearance at Brawn celebrations and I think it is sad.

    What are you talking about?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:07

    Mercedes have already picked up the tags for Nico. The second driver is for Brawn's account.

    Not if they take over the team, as is widely speculated. As Joe said, if salary is the only thing concerning Jenson, Mercedes can take care of it if they want to.

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 10:07

    I can't believe you're still talking about the same thing as when I went to bed last night. :) I vote for Kimi going on the unmentionables list until this is sorted.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:07

    What are you talking about?

    He wasn't at Brackley during the Brawn parade, if I'm not mistaken. He was in Japan with Jessica.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:08

    I can't believe you're still talking about the same thing as when I went to bed last night. :) I vote for Kimi going on the unmentionables list until this is sorted.

    We stopped... until everyone else (Joe, JA, AH, the whole lot) started talking about it.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 10:09

    There is rift between Button and Brawn which I think explains Jenson's recent non appearance at Brawn celebrations and I think it is sad.

    I did think it was odd he wasn't in brackley...

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:09

    He was only "hauling" in the points from Spain,

    Sure but Massa has some mechanical problems when in a strong points scoring situation earlier in the season. Up to his accident Massa scored 22 points versus Kimi's 10 points. In the last three seasons if calculated per race Felipe has scored more points than any other driver and Kimi is third.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:10

    I did think it was odd he wasn't in brackley...

    In and of itself, I didn't think too much of it (the guy was on a well-deserved vacation). But when he finds time to visit Woking less than a week later, something's up.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 10:12

    In and of itself, I didn't think too much of it (the guy was on a well-deserved vacation). But when he finds time to visit Woking less than a week later, something's up.

    or he was having a well deserved holiday? i can imagine that after all the events he'll have had to do following his win that he'd just want some time off with his mrs. and dont forget rubens didnt turn up either

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:13

    I did think it was odd he wasn't in brackley...

    Its sad, considering how much Jenson has brought to the team (as has Rubens).

    I am of the opinion that next year the best car will be the McLaren followed by Red Bull. I think Ferrari will do better than Brawn (especially if they are without either of their 2009 drivers). I would like Jenson to compete in the best car and to be respected by the team. Macca certainly could double the offer Brawn has made and they would have "number 1" on their cars.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:14

    or he was having a well deserved holiday? i can imagine that after all the events he'll have had to do following his win that he'd just want some time off with his mrs. and dont forget rubens didnt turn up either

    why find time to visit woking, but not brackley? again, if he didn't go to woking, i'd have thought nothing of it. but to go to woking soon after, i find that very odd.

    rubens didn't turn up because he's already en route to grove...

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 10:16

    rubens didn't turn up because he's already en route to grove...

    so? he deserves that constructors as much as jenson does. rubens was at grove not that long before, and they're a darn sight closer than japan

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:17

    so? he deserves that constructors as much as jenson does. rubens was at grove not that long before, and they're a darn sight closer than japan

    but for someone who's saying he might still stay with brawn, i was hoping he'd show a bit more respect. rubens doesn't have those ties anymore.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:19

    Not if they take over the team, as is widely speculated. As Joe said, if salary is the only thing concerning Jenson, Mercedes can take care of it if they want to.

    I really think the press has more of the rift between Mercedes and McLaren. Mercedes want to have more control than McLaren currently given them or is reflected in their current contract with the team. I do not see major changes next year. Norbert Haug has said as much. If Mercedes could really influence McLaren they would be getting Nick in. Nick is a very distant third or fourth or fifth choice as I am not sure Kovy is not completely out of the picture.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 10:21

    In and of itself, I didn't think too much of it (the guy was on a well-deserved vacation). But when he finds time to visit Woking less than a week later, something's up.

    well deserved? !!!

    In the last month he took weeks out to Hawaii and Dubai!

    He is not in need of a holiday, it would appear to have been on purpose

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:21

    or he was having a well deserved holiday? i can imagine that after all the events he'll have had to do following his win that he'd just want some time off with his mrs. and dont forget rubens didnt turn up either

    Yea but Rubens had been dropped as a driver and had to seek another team. Do you blame him for not attending! As the team delivered to him his World Championship - I think Jenson should have attended.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 10:22

    It's fair to say the following things...

    1) We have no idea.

    2) I know can understand why lou gets annoyed when people say Jensons going to McLaren

    3) We really have no idea.

    4) At all

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 10:23

    Oops quoted wrong text ;)

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 10:24

    Yea but Rubens had been dropped as a driver and had to seek another team. Do you blame him for not attending! As the team delivered to him his World Championship - I think Jenson should have attended.

    As the driver who gave them the constructors championship aswell, Rubens should have been there.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 10:26

    As the driver who gave them the constructors championship aswell, Rubens should have been there.

    After seeing Heikki at the Mercedes thing, I can understand why drivers don't want to stick around once they know they're leaving.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 10:27

    After seeing Heikki at the Mercedes thing, I can understand why drivers don't want to stick around once they know they're leaving.

    of course. my point is that the celebration was for the team, not for the drivers

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 10:27

    of course. my point is that the celebration was for the team, not for the drivers

    plus i dont care where jenson goes :D

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:28

    After seeing Heikki at the Mercedes thing, I can understand why drivers don't want to stick around once they know they're leaving.

    Do we no for sure that Heikki is leaving? What happens if Brawn patch their differences with Button and Kimi does not sell his lavish house in Finland and takes the money rather than the F1 drive?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:29

    Do we no for sure that Heikki is leaving? What happens if Brawn patch their differences with Button and Kimi does not sell his lavish house in Finland and takes the money rather than the F1 drive?

    They get Heidfeld.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 10:29

    Do we no for sure that Heikki is leaving? What happens if Brawn patch their differences with Button and Kimi does not sell his lavish house in Finland and takes the money rather than the F1 drive?

    We never know anything for sure.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:30

    They get Heidfeld.

    That is what I would like - but a lot of people still rate Heikki over Nick!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 10:34

    That is what I would like - but a lot of people still rate Heikki over Nick!

    I'm not one of them. ;)

    #sorryAmy

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:37

    We never know anything for sure.

    I actually would like to see what Heikki could do without being in the shadow of Lewis. For both Jenson and Kimi (and any other driver who might get the second seat) Lewis has a huge advantage. I do not see any driver displacing Lewis as the number 1 driver (and delivering the points), the second seat is a second-place position.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 10:38

    That is what I would like - but a lot of people still rate Heikki over Nick!

    I do...

  • RG14/11/2009 at 10:41

    That is what I would like - but a lot of people still rate Heikki over Nick!

    A driver who gets 19 points in a terribly awful car.

    A driver who gets 22 points in a very good car (towards the end of the season, alright, but shold be more)

    There is only one you can choose between those two, Nick Heidfeld.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 10:42

    Morning all btw.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 10:48

    There is only one you can choose between those two, Nick Heidfeld.

    I know you see it that way. A lot of people do not see it that way. You and I are probably the only two on this forum that would give Nick at least equal value to Robert. If you examine all aspects of their driving they produce incredible similar times and results (especially during 2009) despite being polar opposites in their driving style. Both Nick and Robert are hard working and committed, but Nick less vocal when the car is not to his suiting.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 11:02

    "We still have no idea how good (or bad) that Ferrari was). Felipe was very consistently hauling in the points just prior to the accident when Kimi had little more than one third-place to show."

    This drives me wild...

    Kimi was in front at Monaco and had got Ferrari their first points and podium of 2009... after that he outqualied Felipe in Turkey and Silverstone...

    Felipe's one stopper in Silverstone meant he wasn't affected by the Trulli train and in Germany Kimi had to retire....

    So Hungary was not a turning point at all...

    "You and I are probably the only two on this forum that would give Nick at least equal value to Robert"

    Nope. I would take the quiet Nick over moaning Robert any day... but as a second driver...

    Robert is only any good if the car is working well... whereas Nick does well in a bad car and even if he doesn't seal the deal with a good car he plays an excellent back-up role....

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 11:03

    " For both Jenson and Kimi (and any other driver who might get the second seat) Lewis has a huge advantage. I do not see any driver displacing Lewis as the number 1 driver (and delivering the points), the second seat is a second-place position."

    That's where I think you are wrong and where Kimi has the advantage.... Macca know all about Kimi and his style and requirements....

    Lewis doesn't want Kimi that's for sure....

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 11:05

    am I wrong in thinking 72 hours is too long to reply to an enquiry email? *shakes fist in general direction of Singapore*

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 11:07

    That's where I think you are wrong and where Kimi has the advantage.... Macca know all about Kimi and his style and requirements....

    So you really think Kimi will have an equal opportunity at Macca? Lewis' father (which amounts to Lewis say it) says that Kimi is the best option for the second seat but he will miss Kovy.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:07

    Kimi was in front at Monaco and had got Ferrari their first points and podium of 2009... after that he outqualied Felipe in Turkey and Silverstone...

    And had Felipe not botched up his initial pass on Vettel at Monaco, he would've beaten Kimi to the podium.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:07

    Lewis doesn't want Kimi that's for sure....

    You say this after Anthony goes out and say they have no issues with Kimi coming over, even if he didn't need to do that?

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 11:14

    "You say this after Anthony goes out and say they have no issues with Kimi coming over, even if he didn't need to do that?"

    If Daddy Hamilton isn't into PR I don't know who is....

    "And had Felipe not botched up his initial pass on Vettel at Monaco, he would've beaten Kimi to the podium."

    No way...

    If Ferrari had put Kimi on softs he'd have won...

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 11:14

    Notus say they're not bothered about having a Malaysian driver in the car. Are there any potential Malaysian drivers, though?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:16

    Notus say they're not bothered about having a Malaysian driver in the car. Are there any potential Malaysian drivers, though?

    On paper, yes (Yoong and Fauzy). In reality, no.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:17

    No way...

    yes way. He lost so much time behind Vettel, then fell back behind Rosberg after he had to let Vettel back through.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 11:19

    On paper, yes (Yoong and Fauzy). In reality, no.

    At least they didn't do the USF1 trick of saying they would be an all-national team then realise that wasn't actually possible.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 11:19

    "Notus say they're not bothered about having a Malaysian driver in the car. Are there any potential Malaysian drivers, though"

    Yoong and Fauzy....

    Nooooo....

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 11:20

    On paper, yes (Yoong and Fauzy). In reality, no.

    Morning all

    They have a deal with Fauzy to be third driver next season with the possiblity of racing him in 2011.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:20

    At least they didn't do the USF1 trick of saying they would be an all-national team then realise that wasn't actually possible.

    Heheh. Yeah, that's true. But then, USF1 went first, so Notus just had to learn from their mistakes.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 11:21

    I am heading out soon. When Lou turns up can someone tell her there was a program on Channel 4 when I went to bed this morning on the London triathlon with lots of Jenson on it.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 11:21

    I am heading out soon. When Lou turns up can someone tell her there was a program on Channel 4 when I went to bed this morning on the London triathlon with lots of Jenson on it.

    Should have said she should be able to see it on 4OD I assume

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 11:28

    "yes way. He lost so much time behind Vettel, then fell back behind Rosberg after he had to let Vettel back through."

    And if Kimi had been put on softs he would not have been stuck behind Rubens... he didn't get free running for the entire race and there was a problem changing his tyres the second time....

    Also

    "Massa raised the ire of the stewards after crossing the chicane at the Swimming Pool Complex twice, though no penalty was awarded as both occasions were due to driver error."

    If Seb hadn't made an error Massa would have been even further back....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:31

    And if Kimi had been put on softs he would not have been stuck behind Rubens... he didn't get free running for the entire race and there was a problem changing his tyres the second time....

    That was decided before the race even started. That didn't affect Felipe's race with Seb.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 11:31

    I think Ant is going to get the McLaren drive and Kimi is going to commentate with Crofty.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:32

    I think Ant is going to get the McLaren drive and Kimi is going to commentate with Crofty.

    That would be AWESOME! :D

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 11:32

    That was decided before the race even started. That didn't affect Felipe's race with Seb.

    theres no point in using 'if this happened....' arguments, because it didn't happen. end of story.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:33
  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 11:33

    theres no point in using 'if this happened....' arguments, because it didn't happen. end of story.

    If Amy could get slurpees delivered she would still be wearing her pjs

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:34

    theres no point in using 'if this happened....' arguments, because it didn't happen. end of story.

    So we could then go back to the bottom line - which was that from Australia to Germany, Massa had outscored Raikkonen.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 11:34

    If Amy could get slurpees delivered she would still be wearing her pjs

    :D As soon as I got home I put them back on again :D

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:35

    :D As soon as I got home I put them back on again :D

    :D :D

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 11:35

    I think Ant is going to get the McLaren drive and Kimi is going to commentate with Crofty.

    I love the idea of Kimi's commentary for BBC!

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 11:36

    So we could then go back to the bottom line - which was that from Australia to Germany, Massa had outscored Raikkonen.

    yes, but this whole debate was sparked by an 'if x happened' Massa would have beaten Raikkonen to Ferrari's first podium. But it didn't happen, so he didn't.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 11:36

    :D As soon as I got home I put them back on again :D

    I still can't believe you went to bed before me last night and you are half a day ahead.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:36

    When even US stores are selling a Region 2 DVD for the 2009 Season Review, it's probably time to give up hope on a Region 1 DVD...

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 11:37

    I am heading out now.

    Have a fun day and I hope everyone enjoys the sidepodfilm

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:37

    yes, but this whole debate was sparked by an 'if x happened' Massa would have beaten Raikkonen to Ferrari's first podium. But it didn't happen, so he didn't.

    but that point in itself was just answering my point, which was that up to Massa's injury, Massa had Raikkonen beat.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:37

    Have a fun day and I hope everyone enjoys the sidepodfilm

    See ya Steven.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 11:38

    I still can't believe you went to bed before me last night and you are half a day ahead.

    I only slept for an hour. It was a nap, rather than a proper going to bed :D

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 11:39

    So we could then go back to the bottom line - which was that from Australia to Germany, Massa had outscored Raikkonen.

    One has to look at the overall picture - Massa had at least one unfortunate retirement when in a strong position. In qualifying they are evenly matched but Massa still returned more points per race this season (and has done so against Kimi for most of their time as team mates).

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 11:40

    but that point in itself was just answering my point, which was that up to Massa's injury, Massa had Raikkonen beat.

    Thats what the points table says that is what decides who wins races and championships.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:41

    Thats what the points table says that is what decides who wins races and championships.

    Although that said, Raikkonen did win a title, and Massa was unable to do so.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 11:41

    "So we could then go back to the bottom line - which was that from Australia to Germany, Massa had outscored Raikkonen"

    No that's wrong...

    From Oz to Monaco Kimi outscored Felipe and from Turkey to Germany it was the other way round.... although Kimi out qualied Massa in that latter period and had a retirement....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:43

    From Oz to Monaco Kimi outscored Felipe and from Turkey to Germany it was the other way round.... although Kimi out qualied Massa in that latter period and had a retirement....

    But you have to take the entire period they were driving the same car into consideration - not one portion or the other.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 11:47

    "and has done so against Kimi for most of their time as team mates."

    Rot....

    Kimi one WDC and Felipe 0 WDC...

    Even though Kimi did substantial assists to Felipe in 2008....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:49

    Kimi one WDC and Felipe 0 WDC...

    That is true, yes, Kimi beat Felipe that year. What's he done since in comparison to Felipe?

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 11:49

    What drives me made in my news feeder I get the following heading articles right next to each other?

    "Will Nick ever race again?"

    "Kamua Kobayashi: An expensive loss?"

    I think bias is all too clear.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 11:52

    What drives me mad in my news feeder I get the following heading articles right next to each other?

    They better not be GMM.

    But let's take things into consideration - Nick's been around for 10 seasons now, while Kobayashi's been around for 2 races. If Nick was going to do something absolutely spectacular, like many great drivers do, he's had lots of time to do it by now. Kobayashi, on the other hand, wasted no time doing spectacular things. No wonder people feel that way.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 11:53

    Even though Kimi did substantial assists to Felipe in 2008....

    I guess Kimi's win at Brazil being handed to him by Felipe does not account but secure his title? I held back but Kimi first win of 2007 season was in an illegal car so his WDC is debatable.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 11:53

    I think bias is all too clear.

    I really like Nick, I think he's a nice guy and I'd love to see him win a race, but the way you speak about him reminds me of the way Nick speaks about Abu Dhabi ;)

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 11:58

    I really like Nick, I think he's a nice guy and I'd love to see him win a race, but the way you speak about him reminds me of the way Nick speaks about Abu Dhabi ;)

    I like Nick as much as you like Heikki. If Nick had be in Jenson's car this year I am sure he would be one of the stars of the season. Despite not having the best car these last three seasons he is the fifth highest scoring driving. With respect Kumua has only raced twice and when they both finished Nick was ahead.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 12:00

    He's dragged a rubbish Ferrari to it's first points podium and win in a car suited to Felipe's style and not his..... and despite zero development the minute Felipe went on sick leave plus knowing he was not driving for them next season he kept the team in the hunt for third place against all odds....

    He is a terrific driver in a great car and in a rubbish car... whilst some well respected drivers would be miles behind if the car didn't work with their style Kimi has put up and shut up...

    He's never moaned or whined.... he just does the business whether he's set on fire or the team botch his pit stop or his tyres etc etc...

    He never lies or plays things unfairly.... he never bitches about other drivers....

    None of his wins were as a result of bad stewards decisions ....

    He's lost out loads to mechanical failure not of his making....

    I could go on for hours and hours....

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 12:00

    I wonder if it is actually going to get light today. Nasty weather.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:00

    With respect Kamui has only raced twice and when they both finished Nick was ahead.

    Can't compare them - different cars. I'm comparing Kamui to Trulli, who he's beaten in both races they were teammates.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:01

    I wonder if it is actually going to get light today. Nasty weather.

    Here too... And for November, that is very unusual.

    Still, I guess it's better now that it's cooler today than it has been in recent days. The heat has seemingly been toxic at times.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:01

    I like Nick as much as you like Heikki. If Nick had be in Jenson's car this year I am sure he would be one of the stars of the season. Despite not having the best car these last three seasons he is the fifth highest scoring driving. With respect Kumua has only raced twice and when they both finished Nick was ahead.

    I like Heikki because he's Finnish, not because he's any good :D

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 12:02

    "I like Heikki because he's Finnish, not because he's any good"

    That is sooo sweet Amy....

    Well done you....

  • RG14/11/2009 at 12:02

    I wonder if it is actually going to get light today. Nasty weather.

    I can actually see blue sky.

    Everyone come up here.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:02

    He's dragged a rubbish Ferrari to it's first points podium and win in a car suited to Felipe's style and not his..... and despite zero development the minute Felipe went on sick leave plus knowing he was not driving for them next season he kept the team in the hunt for third place against all odds....

    I wish he did as well when Felipe was around too...

    He's lost out loads to mechanical failure not of his making....

    To be brutally honest, while he was blowing up his Merc engines in 2005, Montoya wasn't doing the same...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:03

    I like Heikki because he's Finnish, not because he's any good :D

    And that's that. :D

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:03

    I like Heikki because he's Finnish, not because he's any good :D

    Hey Heikki is not really that bad. Can you image a team with Nick and Heikki together - there would be a lot of niceness around.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:04

    Hey Heikki is not really that bad. Can you image a team with Nick and Heikki together - there would be a lot of niceness around.

    I'd swap Heikki for Rubens. ;)

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:04

    Hey Heikki is not really that bad.

    He got the same amount of points as Massa this season. Massa missed half the season. He's not really that good. But I like him anyway :D

  • RG14/11/2009 at 12:05

    He got the same amount of points as Massa this season. Massa missed half the season. He's not really that good. But I like him anyway :D

    He'll be good for one of the new teams I think. He has 3 years experience at least.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:05

    He got the same amount of points as Massa this season. Massa missed half the season. He's not really that good. But I like him anyway :D

    Now THAT is pure, unadulterated love. :D

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:06

    Now THAT is pure, unadulterated love. :D

    I'm biased, not blind :D

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:07

    I'm biased, not blind :D

    :D :D :D

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 12:08

    Just found a list of the top 100 Books of the decade in the Times...

    Must check which I haven't read...

    Funnily enough they have Da Vinci Code as top of the worst books list and in 10th place in the best....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:09

    Funnily enough they have Da Vinci Code as top of the worst books list and in 10th place in the best....

    They were compiled by different people, then? Or was it vote-based?

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:09

    I like Nick because he is so stylish as a racing driver (that does not mean he is the fastest) and because he is simply a nice guy who has no ego and is partnered to a nice but ordinary looking person and he is a great daddy. He thinks about things like global poverty and helps out financially with projects to provide clean water to disadvantaged communities. Oh and he grew a beard simply because he got tired of shaving in the mornings and left it.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:09

    Must check which I haven't read...

    Have you read The Time-Traveller's Wife?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:10

    I like Nick because he is so stylish as a racing driver (that does not mean he is the fastest) and because he is simply a nice guy who has no ego and is partnered to a nice but ordinary looking person and he is a great daddy. He thinks about things like global poverty and helps out financially with projects to provide clean water to disadvantaged communities. Oh and he grew a beard simply because he got tired of shaving in the mornings and left it.

    I like him because hes really short and I think thats cute :D

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:12

    I like him because hes really short and I think thats cute :D

    Heikki is not exactly big - I can say Nick is really tiny in real. I think Timo is not much bigger either.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:13

    Heikki is not exactly big - I can say Nick is really tiny in real. I think Timo is not much bigger either.

    90% of F1 drivers are little but Nick was definitely the one who looked smallest in person, closely followed by Massa.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:13

    Hey Heikki is not really that bad. Can you image a team with Nick and Heikki together - there would be a lot of niceness around.

    I'd swap Heikki for Rubens. ;)

    I sort of hoped Williams would have picked up Nick to join Rubens.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 12:14

    "Have you read The Time-Traveller's Wife?"

    Afraid not yet... just keep passing it by.... I know I really should... although it's not on the list...

    They do have The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time that I loved... and The life of Pi...

  • RG14/11/2009 at 12:14

    Heikki is not exactly big - I can say Nick is really tiny in real. I think Timo is not much bigger either.

    5ft6.

    Well, I googled that one.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:15

    Afraid not yet... just keep passing it by.... I know I really should... although it's not on the list...

    I've owned it for 5 years and haven't got around to reading it. I've even put it on my Kindle in an attempt to do it, as of yet it hasn't worked.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:15

    90% of F1 drivers are little but Nick was definitely the one who looked smallest in person, closely followed by Massa.

    Nick is the smallest, followed by Felipe, I am not sure who is third smallest - anyone know a source for driver masses?

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:15

    Afraid not yet... just keep passing it by.... I know I really should... although it's not on the list...

    You must - I thought it was a brilliant piece of work - and I'm a guy! It left my girl in tears.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:16

    5ft6.

    He is looks smaller than that - I know that is the claimed height and Alonso is 5ft8 !

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 12:17

    "You must -"

    OK...

    I have a very long flight coming up soonish so will ensure I take it with me.... you can only watch so many films....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:18

    I have a very long flight coming up soonish so will ensure I take it with me.... you can only watch so many films....

    :D Tis true. :)

    As for me, I should really get to reading Lost Symbol. Probably during the Christmas break.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 12:21

    " I should really get to reading Lost Symbol"

    It has a fairly gruesome start....

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 12:22

    It has a fairly gruesome start....

    When did a Dan Brown novel NOT have a gruesome start?

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 12:24

    When did a Dan Brown novel NOT have a gruesome start?

    Very true....

  • James14/11/2009 at 12:26

    afternoon everyone. anyone got any motivation i can borrow? :)

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 12:30

    From Forix:

    Mark Alan Webber 185cm

    Adrian Sutil 184

    Robert Kubica 183

    Jenson Alexander Lyons Button 182

    Romain Grosjean 180

    Vitantonio Liuzzi 178

    Nico Rosberg 178

    Nelson Ângelo Piquet 177

    Sebastian Vettel 176

    Kimi-Matias Räikkönen 175

    Lewis Carl Hamilton 175

    Kazuki Nakajima 175

    Jarno Trulli 173

    Sébastien Buemi 172

    Giancarlo Fisichella 172

    Heikki Johannes Kovalainen 172

    Rubens Gonçalves Barrichello 172

    Luca Badoer 171

    Jarno Trulli 171

    Kamui Kobayashi 170

    Timo Glock 169

    Felipe Massa 166

    Nicklaus Heidfeld 165

    Sébastien Bourdais no size

    Jaime Alguersuari Escudero no size

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:34

    From Forix:

    Nicklaus Heidfeld 165

    eheheh he's barely taller than I am!

  • RG14/11/2009 at 12:36

    How can Jarno be two sizes?

    Though I am the same size as Luca Badoer. Ah.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 12:37

    According to the Toro Rosso site, Alguesuari is 181cm

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 12:37

    How can Jarno be two sizes?

    sorry. Apparently I'm not very good at copy&paste after all. The taller Jarno is actually whichever driver from this season I'm missing

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 12:38

    According to the Toro Rosso site, Alguesuari is 181cm

    Why didn't he use Escudero? It's much easier to say.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 12:41

    Why didn't he use Escudero? It's much easier to say.

    I believe that he isn't uses it just to annoy commentators.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:43

    sorry. Apparently I'm not very good at copy&paste after all. The taller Jarno is actually whichever driver from this season I'm missing

    ahh, Mr Fernando Díaz ;)

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 12:43

    Or not

    Jarno Trulli 173

    Fernando Alonso Díaz 171

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:44

    Thanks Kathi, I happen to know that Nick's height seems to vary a lot. When in Germany I saw him for real and he is actually very tiny - I think 165 is the official height but in reality he is about 163 cm. I was right about Timo being rather small. Of course Anthony Davidson is the smallest current F1 driver (as he is/was the reserve Brawn driver) at 162 cm and 55 kg. Le Seb is 179 and 72 kg and Jaime 181 and 65 kg.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:47

    Robert Kubica 183

    Jenson Alexander Lyons Button 182

    I always thought Robert was much taller than Jenson - I am surprised.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:48

    eheheh he's barely taller than I am!

    Your are taller than Ant Davidson!

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:49

    Your are taller than Ant Davidson!

    nope, I'm only 160cm. Pretty close though!

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 12:56

    ahh, Mr Fernando Díaz ;)

    hehe wasn't on purpose #sorry..erm?

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 12:57

    hehe wasn't on purpose #sorry..erm?

    :D

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 12:58

    nope, I'm only 160cm. Pretty close though!

    Your ideal size for an F1 driver.

    I am hoping Ant gets a drive next year - possibly alongside Jarno at Lotus.

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 12:59

    Won't Lotus need at least one paying driver?....

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 13:01

    Am home for lunch but probably shouldn't be for long..

    I have never seen it but I love things like that where you have to figure out the story

    it's actually on tonight which excites me. Tonights episode is on this

    I like Air Crash Investigation as well and funnily enouigh I saw the same episode about two weeks ago. I'd never heard of the incident before, very interesting.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 13:03

    Your ideal size for an F1 driver.

    it's just a pity that I am not a fan of driving any faster than about 150km/h. I would like to win the ride in the 2 Seater that the Australian GP Corp are giving away though. I didn't win last year, I swear the competition must be rigged.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 13:05

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8358712.stm

    :D

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 13:06

    Robert Kubica 183

    Jenson Alexander Lyons Button 182

    Jonathan James Waldock 186

    I win!!

  • Scott Woodwiss14/11/2009 at 13:06

    http://news.bb...echnology/8358712.stm

    I knew it the moment i first saw it!

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 13:09

    wooo NZ is going to the World Cup!

    heh I don't even care about football so I wasn't watching, but it's pretty cool because they haven't been since 1982 :D

    Ah, congrats. I also don't care about football but there's something about the World Cup which gets my interest every time.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 13:09

    Won't Lotus need at least one paying driver?....

    They want two experienced drivers and the reserve will go to Fauzy. His dad is in some way connected to the team.

  • me14/11/2009 at 13:10

    http://news.bb...echnology/8358712.stm

    :D

    highest form of flattery. however, this is patently untrue:

    "...but it's built on that very stable core Vista technology"

  • RG14/11/2009 at 13:11

    wooo NZ is going to the World Cup!

    I wanted Bahrain. :(

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 13:12

    I wanted Bahrain. :(

    Why? Easier to beat?

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 13:13

    "They want two experienced drivers and the reserve will go to Fauzy. His dad is in some way connected to the team."

    I didn't say WANT Rich.. I said NEED....

    I understand that they are lacking sponsors at present and that they will need a paying driver or one that brings in serious sponsorship...

    Ant and Trulli don't tick that box....

  • RG14/11/2009 at 13:13

    Why? Easier to beat?

    Frankly, both teams will/would be beat 5-0 in each game. But Bahrain is the slightly more glamorous tale of getting there, and more deserved, all New Zealand had to do is fight off the Soloman Islands and beat Bahrain, just.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 13:14

    Frankly, both teams will/would be beat 5-0 in each game. But Bahrain is the slightly more glamorous tale of getting there, and more deserved, all New Zealand had to do is fight off the Soloman Islands and beat Bahrain, just.

    but 1982 was so long ago!

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 13:15

    but 1982 was so long ago!

    and I know Bahrain have never been. But I am not from there :D

  • RG14/11/2009 at 13:15

    but 1982 was so long ago!

    Bahrain have never qualified before!

  • Scott Woodwiss14/11/2009 at 13:16

    Robert Kubica 183

    Jenson Alexander Lyons Button 182

    Is that really Jenson's full name?

    Oh, hi btw :P

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 13:16

    highest form of flattery. however, this is patently untrue:

    No Windows 7 seems very similar to the KDE Linux desktop.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 13:18

    and I know Bahrain have never been. But I am not from there :D

    Well, enjoy it. If you can.

    Though I doubt Germany or and other big nation will do a Saudi Arabia on you and beat you 8-0

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 13:20

    Well, enjoy it. If you can.

    yes, I don't see us winning anything, but at least we are there :D

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 13:21

    I understand that they are lacking sponsors at present and that they will need a paying driver or one that brings in serious sponsorship...

    I have not actually picked this up - just dissapointment that they did not get Petronas (who still want to stick to Sauber - but could move to Williams if they do not make the grid).

    Does anyone know what is holding up Sauber Quadbike's position on the grid.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 13:29

    Robert Kubica 183

    Jenson Alexander Lyons Button 182

    Did not know the Lyons that's his mom's maiden name - I went to same school as Jenson went for a year or two (Selwood Middle School, Frome)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 13:29

    yes, I don't see us winning anything, but at least we are there :D

    For many countries that is an accomplishment in itself.

  • Amy14/11/2009 at 13:31

    well I'd best go to bed since I agreed to this silly overtime at work tomorrow. I start in 8 hours!

    Enjoy sidepodfilmwatch, I might pick up some popcorn after work and watch it when I get home :)

  • RG14/11/2009 at 13:32

    well I'd best go to bed since I agreed to this silly overtime at work tomorrow. I start in 8 hours!

    Enjoy sidepodfilmwatch, I might pick up some popcorn after work and watch it when I get home :)

    ciao amy.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 13:35

    well I'd best go to bed since I agreed to this silly overtime at work tomorrow. I start in 8 hours!

    Enjoy sidepodfilmwatch, I might pick up some popcorn after work and watch it when I get home :)

    Night.

    I had a thought. This is probably the first World Cup since SPC appeared. I know on other F1 places online it completely takes over all other discussion. We may need contingencies.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 13:40

    I had a thought. This is probably the first World Cup since SPC appeared. I know on other F1 places online it completely takes over all other discussion. We may need contingencies.

    There's a World Cup? Of what?

  • RG14/11/2009 at 13:52

    There's a World Cup? Of what?

    Well, I believe its football, speedway world cup doesn't get that much attention.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 13:52

    There's a World Cup? Of what?

    fitba, as they say in Scotland

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 13:52

    Well, I believe its football, speedway world cup doesn't get that much attention.

    When is it?

  • RG14/11/2009 at 13:53

    When is it?

    June 11th-June 11th.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 13:53

    June 11th-June 11th.

    No, July 11th. It lasts a month, not one day

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 14:00

    MICHEL!!!!! :D

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 14:02

    My life is now complete! SPC is thoroughly awesome!

  • RG14/11/2009 at 14:03

    My life is now complete! SPC is thoroughly awesome!

    This may need explanations?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 14:05

    Sidepodcast found michel for me! I have seen michel! This is th best day of my life :D

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 14:06

    No, July 11th. It lasts a month, not one day

    A while away yet. Just something to be aware of and work out how to handle nearer the time. I think it is too big to just say "no talking about it".

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 14:07

    Sidepodcast found michel for me! I have seen michel! This is th best day of my life :D

    I saw the ad on the Autosport International site and thought it was worth posting here. I think it was Steven who repeated it when you arrived. Teamwork, see.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 14:11

    I love it! Teamwork rocks my socks. Thank you Pat! I am also stuffed full of michelin standard food. Best day out EVER!!

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 14:13

    I love it! Teamwork rocks my socks. Thank you Pat! I am also stuffed full of michelin standard food. Best day out EVER!!

    :-) I may be jealous about the food.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 14:14

    I have to go outside again. Need to buy my sister a birthday present. She'll be 13 and I have nooo idea.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 14:20

    I may just yell 'michel roux i love you' across th hall and see where it gets me :P

  • me14/11/2009 at 14:21

    I love it! Teamwork rocks my socks. Thank you Pat! I am also stuffed full of michelin standard food. Best day out EVER!!

    :)

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 14:26

    Don't want to go, nice and warm in here (for once) and outside is dark and windy. Bah. See you later.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 14:27

    A while away yet. Just something to be aware of and work out how to handle nearer the time. I think it is too big to just say "no talking about it".

    Huh. Never really occurred to me. I'm not bothered if people talk about it but I'm not interested either.

  • me14/11/2009 at 14:27

    Don't want to go, nice and warm in here (for once) and outside is dark and windy. Bah. See you later.

    good luck pat!

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 14:28

    Huh. Never really occurred to me. I'm not bothered if people talk about it but I'm not interested either.

    I'm saying you might be bothered if it takes over everthing, just saying I've seen it before..

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 14:28

    I'm saying you might be bothered if it takes over everthing, just saying I've seen it before..

    Ah, well, we haz a filter and a moderate button. I'm sure we'll be fine. :)

  • me14/11/2009 at 14:29

    I'm saying you might be bothered if it takes over everthing, just saying I've seen it before..

    on an f1 site?

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 14:29

    on an f1 site?

    Oh yes.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 14:30

    Ah, well, we haz a filter and a moderate button. I'm sure we'll be fine. :)

    These things are true and also it is a different group of people.

  • me14/11/2009 at 14:30

    on an f1 site?

    Oh yes.

    odd.

    i have no interest in it either, so i wouldn't worry about it. plus that's a lifetime away yet...

  • Lady Snowcat14/11/2009 at 14:49

    And as it's in the middle of F1 it will be nothing more than an occasional sidebar.... if that....

    And probably only when we are comparing something vital like.... beards....

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 14:54

    Afternoon! I am home...

    Everyone seems to be taking theis Jenson to Mclaren thing quite seriously!

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 14:55

    Everyone seems to be taking theis Jenson to Mclaren thing quite seriously!

    it does make me chuckle

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 14:55

    Sidepodcast found michel for me! I have seen michel! This is th best day of my life :D

    Yeah... but did he run across a bridge? :P

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 14:56

    Well, I believe its football, speedway world cup doesn't get that much attention.

    Whose playing?

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 14:56

    Whose playing?

    Everyone

  • me14/11/2009 at 14:57

    Whose playing?

    men in shorts.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 14:58

    it does make me chuckle

    They were "in discussion" until quite late! But then Macca have been in discussion with more drivers that is widely reported. Publicity is probably strategy to either get Kimi to lower his expectations or Ross or to raise his.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:00

    men in shorts.

    There is nothing wrong with shots! :D

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:00

    There is nothing wrong with shots! :D

    ...and there is nothing wrong with shorts either! :P

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:04

    A little while ago there was discussion of what F1 drivers earn. A table was presented which seemed to be somewhat off the mark. here is another estimate to what they took home as a basic salary (without endoresements etc)

    1. Kimi Raikkonen £27.35m

    2. Lewis Hamilton £10.9m

    3. Fernando Alonso £9.1m

    4. Nico Rosberg £5.15m

    5. Felipe Massa £4.85m

    6. Jarno Trulli £3.95m

    7. Sebastian Vettel £3.65m

    8. Mark Webber £3.35m

    9. Jenson Button £3.05m

    10. Robert Kubica £2.75m

    11. Heikki Kovalainen £2.1m

    12. Nick Heidfeld £1.7m

    13. Timo Glock £1.2m

    14. Giancarlo Fisichella £0.9m

    15. Sébastien Buemi £0.9m

    16. Rubens Barrichello £600,000

    17. Jaime Alguersuari £300,000

    18. Vitantonio Liuzzi £0

    19. Adrian Sutil £0

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 15:05

    A little while ago there was discussion of what F1 drivers earn. A table was presented which seemed to be somewhat off the mark. here is another estimate to what they took home as a basic salary (without endoresements etc)

    Wheres this from?

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:05

    A little while ago there was discussion of what F1 drivers earn. A table was presented which seemed to be somewhat off the mark. here is another estimate to what they took home as a basic salary (without endoresements etc)

    based on what?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 15:06

    I have touched michel! I am in love! He said it was nice to meet me. Yaaaay! :D

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:07

    omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omga two hour driving lesson in this weather was terrifying!! O.O

    anyway... hi..

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:07

    I have touched michel! I am in love! He said it was nice to meet me. Yaaaay! :D

    go alison!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:07

    I have touched michel! I am in love! He said it was nice to meet me. Yaaaay! :D

    You sound like Amy with Mika or Lou with Jenson - i.e. head over heels. :P

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 15:07

    anyway... hi..

    howdy!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:07

    You sound like Amy with Mika or Lou with Jenson - i.e. head over heels. :P

    Or Christine with Jenson a few years back, for that matter. Ahihihihihi. :P

  • RG14/11/2009 at 15:08

    omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omga two hour driving lesson in this weather was terrifying!! O.O

    what weather. Its sunny outside.

    Hi.

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:09

    anyway... hi..

    ahh, but you survived.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:09

    Or Christine with Jenson a few years back, for that matter. Ahihihihihi. :P

    I never touched Jenson. I would remember something like that.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:09

    what weather. Its sunny outside.

    it was high winds, extremely heavy wind and dark! i had the headlights on at 2pm!! :(

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:09

    based on what?

    The original report comes from a list published by Arabian Business magazine and prepared by a Tom Rubython

    It was regurgitated at the following link

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30102009/58/revealed-f1-drivers-earn.html

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:10

    I have touched michel! I am in love! He said it was nice to meet me. Yaaaay! :D

    Whooo! Well done you!

    Did you say i thought he had a girly name? :P

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:10

    ahh, but you survived.

    just.. not what i needed for me last lesson tho :s

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:11

    I never touched Jenson. I would remember something like that.

    Have you touched any F1 drivers in the last few years? :D

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 15:11

    just.. not what i needed for me last lesson tho :s

    you taking your test?!

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 15:11

    I'm so so excited! Not sure if that's obvious or not... Jenson is very pretty. I love michel more.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:11

    omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omga two hour driving lesson in this weather was terrifying!! O.O

    I got blown seriously sideways doing about 20mph more than i should on the motorway.... I slowed down after that!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:11

    Did you say i thought he had a girly name? :P

    *cue balcony*

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:11

    The original report comes from a list published by Arabian Business magazine and prepared by a Tom Rubython

    It was regurgitated at the following link

    rich. you may have missed stuart's guest post on said subject:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/10/29/of-driver-salaries-and-other-guff/

    recommended.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:11

    you taking your test?!

    yep... next week.. scary stuff.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:11

    Have you touched any F1 drivers in the last few years? :D

    Not to my knowledge.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 15:12

    yep... next week.. scary stuff.

    woooooow

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:12

    Not to my knowledge.

    Awww shucks. Nothing to tease you with. ;)

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 15:12

    No nick. Oddly enough you were not mentioned...

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:13

    No nick. Oddly enough you were not mentioned...

    hehehehe :D

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:13

    Have you touched any F1 drivers in the last few years? :D

    Not to my knowledge.

    You missed out on the chance to touch the hero of us all...

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:15

    rich. you may have missed stuart's guest post on said subject:

    So this is the list that Stuart was referring to.

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:16

    So this is the list that Stuart was referring to.

    very same, i believe.

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:16

    you taking your test?!

    yep... next week.. scary stuff.

    good luck lou!

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:17

    Have you touched any F1 drivers in the last few years? :D

    Mr C literally RAN to Ant last weekend :D

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:18

    yep... next week.. scary stuff.

    If you can drive in that weather, you should be able to win next week :D

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:19

    good luck lou!

    thank you, am really going to need it based on todays lesson.

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:19

    If you can drive in that weather, you should be able to win next week :D

    Nick, Lou's not in a race. :P She just needs to pass, not to win. :D

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:20

    Nick, Lou's not in a race. :P She just needs to pass, not to win. :D

    Its a contest... You win... you get the license :D

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:21

    Its a contest... You win... you get the license :D

    Very well. :P Hehe. :D

    Hmmm... when should I sleep, I wonder? Boxing's on tomorrow. w00t! :D

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:21

    Nick, Lou's not in a race. :P She just needs to pass, not to win. :D

    :)

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:21

    very same, i believe.

    Of course I was looking for something else - At able to correct each grid position against fuel weight so as to make a comparison of which driver actually did the best with their equipment (performance corrected championship).

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:22

    Of course I was looking for something else - At able to correct each grid position against fuel weight so as to make a comparison of which driver actually did the best with their equipment (performance corrected championship).

    blimey!

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:22

    Nick, Lou's not in a race. :P She just needs to pass, not to win. :D

    Watch Brazil Lou... if you can pass like Jenson you will be fine :P

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:23

    Watch Brazil Lou... if you can pass like Jenson you will be fine :P

    ahaha

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:24

    Of course I was looking for something else - At able to correct each grid position against fuel weight so as to make a comparison of which driver actually did the best with their equipment (performance corrected championship).

    The problem with that is, each car uses a different amount of fuel... some drivers use less than others.... all of which effect performance

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:25

    blimey!

    It should be easy when you have made the rules. I just making the rules up. Essentially it is worked again what you could reasonably expect the car to deliver in terms of times and how grid places can be made up.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 15:27

    Nick is your whole life an epic competition...?

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:27

    The problem with that is, each car uses a different amount of fuel... some drivers use less than others.... all of which effect performance

    It is only to set targets - a bigger problem is the only real constant is one team mate against another and so when you have Alonso against Piquet he will also appear better than he may indeed be due to the other driver being rubbish. I think I have a solution that will reduce this bias.

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:30

    i don't know what is more embarrassing. that christine was dancing around the room to will smith, or that she was dancing kind like of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ogQ0uge06o

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:30

    i don't know what is more embarrassing. that christine was dancing around the room to will smith, or that she was dancing kind like of this:

    Shut it.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 15:31

    i don't know what is more embarrassing. that christine was dancing around the room to will smith, or that she was dancing kind like of this:

    which song?

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:31

    which song?

    Welcome to Miami, Bienvenido a Miami

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:32

    Does anyone know of a link to the fuel-corrected grid positions for each race in 2009 expressed as a time (not a fuel weight)? I know it exists as nice pictures on a site but cannot find that site.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 15:32

    Oooh good choice!

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:33

    Nick is your whole life an epic competition...?

    :( Nooooo!

    (Why, am i winning ?;) )

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:35

    Welcome to Miami, Bienvenido a Miami

    What on earth... :O AHAHAHA!

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:35

    Does anyone know of a link to the fuel-corrected grid positions for each race in 2009 expressed as a time (not a fuel weight)? I know it exists as nice pictures on a site but cannot find that site.

    Hmmm... Gavin doesn't have it?

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:36

    What on earth... :O AHAHAHA!

    Party in the city where the heat is on

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:38

    Hmmm... Gavin doesn't have it?

    I think RG identified the site - but I cleaned my cache so cannot find it now.

    They pictorially showed the corrected grid with the car as an icon along a horizontal axis

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:39

    They pictorially showed the corrected grid with the car as an icon along a horizontal axis

    oooh, pitlanefanatic.

    1 sec.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 15:39

    They pictorially showed the corrected grid with the car as an icon along a horizontal axis

    Errr, Pitlane Fanatic?

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:40

    Welcome to Miami, Bienvenido a Miami

    I really NEED one of the speedboats he drives in the video...

    *starts saving*

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 15:40

    No winning is going on here. For sure. Particularly not as you know about will smith videos??

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:40

    They pictorially showed the corrected grid with the car as an icon along a horizontal axis

    Errr, Pitlane Fanatic?

    http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/blog/index.php/1069/abu-dhabi-qualifying-analysis/

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:42

    No winning is going on here. For sure. Particularly not as you know about will smith videos??

    He was cool...

    #ifyoudontknowthatyouwerent :P

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:43

    I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but Piquet vs Schumi?

    Is this a competition for who is the biggest cheater? :)

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:44

    I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but Piquet vs Schumi?

    Viva las Vegas! Pales in comparison to Pacquiao vs Cotto tonight, though. :D

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:44

    I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but Piquet vs Schumi?

    Is this a competition for who is the biggest cheater? :)

    :D :P

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:47

    I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but Piquet vs Schumi?

    who will be piquet's teammate?

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 15:47

    Hey. There's nothing wrong with a bit of will. I think quoting from th video is too far though! Far too far...

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:49

    who will be piquet's teammate?

    Dunno, but it also says Tater Head is driving too. He better be careful.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:49

    Poor Nelson...

    I hope he wins... Gooooooo Piquet!

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:49

    I need more hours in the day...

  • Journeyer14/11/2009 at 15:51

    I guess it's time to go to bed. Night everyone. :)

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 15:51

    byeee j

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 15:52

    I guess it's time to go to bed. Night everyone. :)

    Night!

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 15:53

    They pictorially showed the corrected grid with the car as an icon along a horizontal axis

    Errr, Pitlane Fanatic?

    Perfect Mr C - exactly what I needed - I fear this will take some time to compile how I will translate this into positions.

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:55

    I need more hours in the day...

    w00t!

    nick, that was sidepodcast's 500,000th comment.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:56

    nick, that was sidepodcast's 500,000th comment.

    Pretty much sums up the Sidepodethos as well.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 15:56

    Perfect Mr C - exactly what I needed - I fear this will take some time to compile how I will translate this into positions.

    if you had the full timing from quali id show you an eeeeeven more accurate way, but would require alot of time and effort...and im not sure you can get your hands on that sort of thing from FOM like you can from TSL

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:57

    http://twitpic.com/phqsc

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 15:57

    http://twitpic.com/phqsc

    You missed it!!!

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 15:57

    Boooooo!! Don't inflate his ego anymore please! :P

  • me14/11/2009 at 15:58

    You missed it!!!

    i blinked. comments come in too fast.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:58
  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 15:59

    Hello everyone :)

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:59

    we keep having powercuts :( i don't like this weather..

  • lou14/11/2009 at 15:59

    Hello everyone :)

    Hey Mr Mcintyre Giggles :)

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 16:00

    Hello everyone :)

    Oh and by the way Mr C I just happen to need 13 of my former comments removed ;)

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 16:00

    Hey Mr Mcintyre Giggles :)

    He stole my entire act ;)

  • me14/11/2009 at 16:01

    Oh and by the way Mr C I just happen to need 13 of my former comments removed ;)

    :D :D :D

  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:01

    He stole my entire act ;)

    :D hehe

    are you having a nice day?

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 16:01

    So how are we all today? I have been making soup!

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 16:02
  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:03

    So how are we all today? I have been making soup!

    still recoving from my terrifying driving lesson, and am annoyed in general with the weather :) other than that i'm good, just about to read back through the comments :)

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 16:03

    nick, that was sidepodcast's 500,000th comment.

    :D :D :D

    Kinda Ironic!

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 16:03

    Pretty much sums up the Sidepodethos as well.

    hehe Congratulations guys!

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 16:04

    Boooooo!! Don't inflate his ego anymore please! :P

    :P

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 16:05

    Yaaay. Soup! You know how much i love soup making! I hav net michel! No soup tips were gained though unfortunately.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 16:06

    Yaaay. Soup! You know how much i love soup making! I hav net michel! No soup tips were gained though unfortunately.

    They let you take a net in there....That wasnt very smart...

    I really think you should let him go ;)

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 16:09

    Yaaay. Soup! You know how much i love soup making! I hav net michel! No soup tips were gained though unfortunately.

    My soup was goooood. But quite chili-ey. Twas Butternut squash, Sweet potato, chili, ginger, lemongrass, coriander (root not leaf), tumeric, and coconut milk.

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 16:11

    I would never do that to michel! That soup sounds immense. I want some. I am very full though.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:13

    power really are annoying when you are researching something on the internet.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:13

    power cuts really are annoying when you are researching something on the internet.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 16:22

    GRRR! Trying to reinstall Windows XP on a computer and I can't find an Ethernet driver that works - any ideas guys?

  • me14/11/2009 at 16:23

    power cuts really are annoying when you are researching something on the internet.

    you needs an iphone.

  • me14/11/2009 at 16:24

    GRRR! Trying to reinstall Windows XP on a computer and I can't find an Ethernet driver that works - any ideas guys?

    what model is it?

  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:24

    you needs an iphone.

    but i have an ipod touch ;)

  • me14/11/2009 at 16:24

    but i have an ipod touch ;)

    kinda requires there to be working wifi :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 16:25

    GRRR! Trying to reinstall Windows XP on a computer and I can't find an Ethernet driver that works - any ideas guys?

    what model is it?

    Very good question.

    The Computer is a Fujitsu Siemens ESPRIMO P5600. The Driver Manager thingy is telling me I need to install a driver for the Ethernet Contoller, the sound card and the video card...

  • me14/11/2009 at 16:26

    The Computer is a Fujitsu Siemens ESPRIMO P5600. The Driver Manager thingy is telling me I need to install a driver for the Ethernet Contoller, the sound card and the video card...

    is it built into the motherboard? if so does it have a part number written next to it?

  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:27

    kinda requires there to be working wifi :(

    yeah.. i know... but i like having separate gadgets. it's probably a good thing that sometimes i can't get on the internet. mum calls it controlling the addiction, i call it getting work done :)

  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:46

    reading back through the comments i feel sorry for Alison.. you were all picking on her last night..

    Lou and Lukeh discovered this when they met in London... Jackie was asking about needing a Sidepodhat...

    I've kept quiet on that one

    Young love needs to flourish undisturbed :lol:

    hmmmmm

    :D Mmmm, yes. Just as well they're not here, then. But I don't think anything's coming out of that. Would LOVE to be proved wrong, though.

    i read back through the comments you know!

    the comments are a mean place when i'm not around lol :D

    I am heading out soon. When Lou turns up can someone tell her there was a program on Channel 4 when I went to bed this morning on the London triathlon with lots of Jenson on it.

    yay! *makes note to check 4OD*

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 16:46

    We now have a clock in the LCLT for Sidepodfilmclub purposes.

    http://sidepodcast.com/livecommenting/

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 16:47

    Horaah!

  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:47

    We now have a clock in the LCLT for Sidepodfilmclub purposes.

    i'm not sure if i'll be around later to watch the film or not. Emily's coming round and we may go brave the weather to see a firework display. or not..

  • RG14/11/2009 at 16:48

    We now have a clock in the LCLT for Sidepodfilmclub purposes.

    Made a rash decision earlier, and commited my Saturday evening too....

    ..the rugby league, any chance to beat the aussies

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 16:48

    i'm not sure if i'll be around later to watch the film or not. Emily's coming round and we may go brave the weather to see a firework display. or not..

    Outside is crazy.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 16:49

    Outside is crazy.

    yeah i think so too, specially after driving in it... however Emily isn't here yet, and she gets the deciding vote :)

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 16:50

    We now have a clock in the LCLT for Sidepodfilmclub purposes.

    Booo for not enough hours in the day...

    I have to head out again...

    More wind, more motorways :(

    ...More beer :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 16:50

    The Computer is a Fujitsu Siemens ESPRIMO P5600. The Driver Manager thingy is telling me I need to install a driver for the Ethernet Contoller, the sound card and the video card...

    is it built into the motherboard? if so does it have a part number written next to it?

    It's a SiS 761GX but I can't seem to find a wroking driver for it...

  • me14/11/2009 at 16:51

    It's a SiS 761GX but I can't seem to find a wroking driver for it...

    doesn't seem to be supported by SIS either :(

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 16:51

    reading back through the comments i feel sorry for Alison.. you were all picking on her last night..

    Hey.... Thats my Job ;)

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 16:53

    Afternoon all.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 16:53

    It's a SiS 761GX but I can't seem to find a wroking driver for it...

    doesn't seem to be supported by SIS either :(

    What a bummer. I should have known better than try and get this computer working - it's from my parents in law. The computer was in German so I had to find a windows XP disk to reinstall into Danish (it's for my sister-in-law). Not much bloody use this computer is without the internet though!

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 16:54

    It's a SiS 761GX but I can't seem to find a wroking driver for it...

    Trying to fins SiS drivers is a bit of a nightmare - I ended up by buying separate graphics Nvidia card for an entire lab cos we could could not get drivers properly configured. It was worth it in the end though.

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 16:55

    Before i go... for MrC:

    Pressdog was on the podcast from about 21 mins to go ;) http://www.1070thefan.com/trackside/podcast.aspx

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 16:56

    It's a SiS 761GX but I can't seem to find a wroking driver for it...

    Trying to fins SiS drivers is a bit of a nightmare - I ended up by buying separate graphics Nvidia card for an entire lab cos we could could not get drivers properly configured. It was worth it in the end though.

    So I'm f... then?

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:00

    So I'm f... then?

    We had to run open GL compatibility so we had no choice. You are not needing 3-d so there should be a way around using simple Vesa standards configurations. Do you a local computer shop - sometime those guys can amaze you when it comes to setting up older PCs?

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:01

    So I'm f... then?

    The alternative is to find a cheap or second-hand video card that does have its drivers.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 17:02

    So I'm f... then?

    We had to run open GL compatibility so we had no choice. You are not needing 3-d so there should be a way around using simple Vesa standards configurations. Do you a local computer shop - sometime those guys can amaze you when it comes to setting up older PCs?

    Oh F.. It! There's a perfectly working (but old) computer sitting at their house anyway!!!

  • Scott Woodwiss14/11/2009 at 17:10

    Test

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:13

    Oh F.. It! There's a perfectly working (but old) computer sitting at their house anyway!!!

    um... Linux is not as fussy on its drivers and uses more generic. I am at working looking at a whole lot of old "donated computers" half which are e-waste and by swapping power supplies, hard drives etc can get the other half working. I agreed to do this if I could put Linux on and even then I had to try about 10 flavours till I found a Linux that would work on these old PCs but still look at bit Windows like for users. I hate working with old computers - it is such a waste of time cos you know they are going to pack up fairly soon.

  • me14/11/2009 at 17:14

    Test

    hey.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 17:17

    Oh F.. It! There's a perfectly working (but old) computer sitting at their house anyway!!!

    um... Linux is not as fussy on its drivers and uses more generic. I am at working looking at a whole lot of old "donated computers" half which are e-waste and by swapping power supplies, hard drives etc can get the other half working. I agreed to do this if I could put Linux on and even then I had to try about 10 flavours till I found a Linux that would work on these old PCs but still look at bit Windows like for users. I hate working with old computers - it is such a waste of time cos you know they are going to pack up fairly soon.

    Yeah I know.. but my niece needs to play pixeline games on it :(

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 17:21

    Level crossings are rrrrrubish! It was open for less than 1 min!

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 17:22

    Test

    hey.

    lucky that wasn't number 500k!

  • lou14/11/2009 at 17:22

    that's the 3rd phone call i've had today from some of dad's friends asking what's going on with Jenson moving to Mclaren.. apparently Jenson will confirm it all on Monday... 3 times i have argued my point that he isn't going anywhere, and i've now got a sore throat :)

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:23

    Yeah I know.. but my niece needs to play pixeline games on it :(

    Quite a few Windows games under Wine emulation. Shucks not sure what to do.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 17:24

    that's the 3rd phone call i've had today from some of dad's friends asking what's going on with Jenson moving to Mclaren.. apparently Jenson will confirm it all on Monday... 3 times i have argued my point that he isn't going anywhere, and i've now got a sore throat :)

    best that you werent around here today then!! :P

  • Nick14/11/2009 at 17:24

    Level crossings are rrrrrubish! It was open for less than 1 min!

    still no train!

  • lou14/11/2009 at 17:26

    best that you werent around here today then!! :P

    i saw the comments, read them, and decided not to comment on them. not without Steven around to tell me that he isn't moving etc. :)

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:27

    that's the 3rd phone call i've had today from some of dad's friends asking what's going on with Jenson moving to Mclaren.. apparently Jenson will confirm it all on Monday... 3 times i have argued my point that he isn't going anywhere, and i've now got a sore throat :)

    Like you I would prefer Jenson to stay at Brawn. There is a chance it will be a better car next for Jenson to defend his position. My insider at Macca says no one really knows but they do some people fancy the idea of an all-British team having the last two World Champions - something about getting back at Mercedes.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 17:27

    Like you I would prefer Jenson to stay at Brawn. There is a chance it will be a better car next for Jenson to defend his position. My insider at Macca says no one really knows but they do some people fancy the idea of an all-British team having the last two World Champions - something about getting back at Mercedes.

    There is no way that anyone in the team that isnt senior would know!!

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 17:28

    I still think it's Button negotiating with Brawn and Mclaren negotiating with Kimi

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:29

    There is no way that anyone in the team that isnt senior would know!!

    Look I am not even sure its been decided - it also ends up being the drivers decision to accept or not to accept.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:31

    I still think it's Button negotiating with Brawn and Mclaren negotiating with Kimi

    If indeed there is an announcement by Monday there may be more to it than this. I think that without someone else's money Ross is simply not in a situation to pay Jenson's demands. Ross would if he could. I also think that Mercedes bucks are still a little way off.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 17:37

    If I was looking for an Ethernet driver, what would I be looking for?

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 17:42

    Good evening everyone :)

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 17:43

    If I was looking for an Ethernet driver, what would I be looking for?

    #doesnotknowanythingaboutcomputer

    Does this help?

  • lou14/11/2009 at 17:43

    If indeed there is an announcement by Monday there may be more to it than this. I think that without someone else's money Ross is simply not in a situation to pay Jenson's demands. Ross would if he could. I also think that Mercedes bucks are still a little way off.

    Ross has said he can give 99% on Jenson staying at Brawn next year, i believe him.

  • me14/11/2009 at 17:43

    Good evening everyone :)

    hey lukeh.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 17:43

    Good evening everyone :)

    evening!!

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 17:44

    WOOOOOAH.

    I have a Muse flag.

    That is all.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 17:45

    Hello Lukeh!!

    Just facebook messaging you

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 17:46

    If I was looking for an Ethernet driver, what would I be looking for?

    #doesnotknowanythingaboutcomputer

    Does this help?

    Tried that. No MS .Net framework on the computer...

  • me14/11/2009 at 17:47

    Tried that. No MS .Net framework on the computer...

    install it then?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 17:48

    Tried that. No MS .Net framework on the computer...

    install it then?

    Well. Now I have managed to find an ethernet driver that works, but the installer for the internet connection can't connect to the router!

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:48

    Ross has said he can give 99% on Jenson staying at Brawn next year, i believe him.

    To be honest that was said a little while ago Ross has said more recently that he cannot given Jenson the 6-8 million pounds he wants but they will give him more freedom with personal sponsorships. Reading between the lines Brawn is still struggling to get key sponsors (I know one has had to pull out being liquor based after Brawns 99% message and Virgin is not renewing). If rumours have truth Brawn have offered 4 million and Jenson currently gets 3.1 million pounds.

  • me14/11/2009 at 17:49

    Well. Now I have managed to find an ethernet driver that works, but the installer for the internet connection can't connect to the router!

    hmm. i like macs.

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:50

    hmm. i like macs.

    That's why I like Linux - way easier to get stuff running.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 17:53

    Well. Now I have managed to find an ethernet driver that works, but the installer for the internet connection can't connect to the router!

    hmm. i like macs.

    IT WORKS!!!!!!!!111!!!11111!!!!11

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 17:54

    IT WORKS!!!!!!!!111!!!11111!!!!11

    Great see you do not need iMacs or Linux.

  • me14/11/2009 at 17:55

    Great see you do not need iMacs or Linux.

    you do if you want a stress free life :)

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 17:56

    you do if you want a stress free life :)

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/08/15/daily-15th-august-2009/#comment-438092

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)14/11/2009 at 17:56

    Great see you do not need iMacs or Linux.

    you do if you want a stress free life :)

    Point proven.

    I have spent all day trying to make simple things work on stupid PC's!

  • RG14/11/2009 at 17:57

    http://www.sid...-2009/#comment-438092

    As you said yesterday Mr C, we never forget.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 17:58

    you do if you want a stress free life :)

    *coughs*Logic*coughs*

  • me14/11/2009 at 17:58

    As you said yesterday Mr C, we never forget.

    hehe!

    however, that was all alex's fault for impulse buying.

  • me14/11/2009 at 17:59

    *coughs*Logic*coughs*

    ahh bugger.

    logic is rubbish. that i'll grant ya.

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 17:59

    *coughs*Logic*coughs*

    Hehe

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 18:00

    *coughs*Logic*coughs*

    Are you still not into Macs - they are nice and were money no object I would like a nice new 27in iMac with a quad processor.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 18:01

    Are you still not into Macs - they are nice and were money no object I would like a nice new 27in iMac with a quad processor.

    We couldn't do Sidepodcast without a Mac and I will never argue otherwise, but I do not enjoy using one, no.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 18:02

    looks like i'm going to the bonfire + fireworks display... i blame emily if i am ill after.

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:03

    looks like i'm going to the bonfire + fireworks display... i blame emily if i am ill after.

    Is it raining as if it is the apocalypse there?

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 18:03

    looks like i'm going to the bonfire + fireworks display... i blame emily if i am ill after.

    Boo.

    More popcorn for Mr C and myself then. :)

  • lou14/11/2009 at 18:06

    Is it raining as if it is the apocalypse there?

    we had rain like this... but not any more.. it's windy though..

  • lou14/11/2009 at 18:06

    More popcorn for Mr C and myself then. :)

    i still haven't seen cars :(.. ah well i shall take lots of pics

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 18:07

    We couldn't do Sidepodcast without a Mac and I will never argue otherwise, but I do not enjoy using one, no.

    My students have the same sentiments - they hate both the iMacs and Linux boxes.

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:08

    we had rain like this... but not any more.. it's windy though..

    See, when I came out of work I assumed I would be going from very cold to windy but a damn sight lot warmer from what I was working. What actually happened was going from very cold to somehow colder. Brrrr.

    Weather, you evil no-good... thing, you.

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 18:10

    Weather, you evil no-good... thing, you.

    Send it to me. It's supposed to get warmer here. Which means rain. Which means all my lovely snow will disappear again. :(

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 18:10

    Trust you to do films when i can't watch them... I tried to talk my friend into it. Sadly she thinks pub > cartoons with internet strangers. Enjoy! xx

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:11

    Send it to me. It's supposed to get warmer here. Which means rain. Which means all my lovely snow will disappear again. :(

    *blows at powerful wind*

    This may take a while

  • Alison14/11/2009 at 18:11

    Oops. Apparently using the phone to type causes my head to think everything needs kisses... Not that you don't deserve them :)

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 18:13

    Send it to me. It's supposed to get warmer here. Which means rain. Which means all my lovely snow will disappear again. :(

    Do you already have snow?

  • me14/11/2009 at 18:13

    Oops. Apparently using the phone to type causes my head to think everything needs kisses... Not that you don't deserve them :)

    i like it.

    more kisses please. x

  • lou14/11/2009 at 18:14

    okay i'm off to put all my layers and head out into the cold and wind.. wish us luck!! xx

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 18:15

    Do you already have snow?

    What do you mean already. Finally. But if it's the same as the last year it will disappear again until mid-January :(

  • Kathi14/11/2009 at 18:15

    *blows at powerful wind*

    Thank you

  • RG14/11/2009 at 18:15

    okay i'm off to put all my layers and head out into the cold and wind.. wish us luck!! xx

    I've survived in underarmour, a top and waterproof with shorts. So you'll be fine. Enjoy!

  • emily14/11/2009 at 18:20

    okay i'm off to put all my layers and head out into the cold and wind.. wish us luck!! xx

    lou you fusser ;)

  • Rich14/11/2009 at 18:22

    What do you mean already. Finally. But if it's the same as the last year it will disappear again until mid-January :(

    It just seems early. Last week it still seemed like Winter in the southern hemisphere and it is still a cool 19C here.

  • lou14/11/2009 at 18:22

    lou you fusser ;)

    oi! everyone's being mean to me today ;)

    see ya ;) xx

  • me14/11/2009 at 18:23

    lou you fusser ;)

    you missed the kiss. like this...

    lou you fusser xx

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:23

    oi! everyone's being mean to me today ;)

    see ya ;) xx

    Enjoy :)

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:25

    Contemplating whether to have a pizza now or during Cars...

  • me14/11/2009 at 18:26

    Contemplating whether to have a pizza now or during Cars...

    we're eating now, if that helps.

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:27

    we're eating now, if that helps.

    It definitely has.

    Probably.

    Unlikely.

    OK, maybe not.

  • emily14/11/2009 at 18:27

    Contemplating whether to have a pizza now or during Cars...

    pizza; always eat it sooner rather than later is my philosophy :)

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 18:27

    Have fun at the fireworks!!

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:28

    pizza; always eat it sooner rather than later is my philosophy :)

    She has a point... and my tummy is rumbling...

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:35

    Eating now wins. Good old pizza and being unable to wait any longer. :P

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 18:38

    Eating now wins. Good old pizza and being unable to wait any longer. :P

    What type of pizza?

  • emily14/11/2009 at 18:38

    Eating now wins. Good old pizza and being unable to wait any longer. :P

    come to the dark side....we have pizza :D

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:38

    What type of pizza?

    Meat Feast! Deep Pan! Yummy :)

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:38

    come to the dark side....we have pizza :D

    I want pizza!

    ...oh wait.

  • emily14/11/2009 at 18:39

    lou is badgering me to go catch the train :D bye everyone! xxx (kisses!)

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 18:40

    lou is badgering me to go catch the train :D bye everyone! xxx (kisses!)

    bye!

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 18:40

    lou is badgering me to go catch the train :D bye everyone! xxx (kisses!)

    bye!

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 18:45

    It was a dark and stormy night... And the captain said to his mate... Is it almost time to watch Cars with the good folk at Sidepodcast?

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 18:45

    we're eating now, if that helps.

    We're eating after.

  • me14/11/2009 at 18:47

    It was a dark and stormy night... And the captain said to his mate... Is it almost time to watch Cars with the good folk at Sidepodcast?

    almost. we have a clock and everything.

  • me14/11/2009 at 18:47

    We're eating after.

    are ya both watching?

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 18:57

    are ya both watching?

    No just me Katherine is using this time to redesign her blog I'm afraid.

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 18:59

    Oh hold on I thought something weird was going on... I thought we were starting at 7pm!

  • RG14/11/2009 at 18:59

    New codemasters f1 preview, looking at a race at monza

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvGc8Msn5YE

  • me14/11/2009 at 18:59

    Oh hold on I thought something weird was going on... I thought we were starting at 7pm!

    ah. think 8pm is the time. i'll check though.

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 19:00

    Oh hold on I thought something weird was going on... I thought we were starting at 7pm!

    Better 7 then 9!

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 19:02

    ah. think 8pm is the time. i'll check though.

    8 is the time on the clock!

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 19:05

    New codemasters f1 preview, looking at a race at monza

    *laugsh to self at last place qualifier*

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 19:06

    New codemasters f1 preview, looking at a race at monza

    That looks brilliant! Really can't wait now...

    *laugsh to self at last place qualifier*

    :D

  • RG14/11/2009 at 19:06

    *laugsh to self at last place qualifier*

    I was loving that :)

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 19:07

    Lewis has a very unique line at Monza :P

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 19:07

    Lewis has a very unique line at Monza :P

    Seems to be working for him though...

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 19:08

    Seems to be working for him though...

    Shame it won't have online so I can show everyone that Monza really does have 36 corners! ;)

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 19:09

    Shame it won't have online so I can show everyone that Monza really does have 36 corners! ;)

    It would have been great to have a sidepodrace on wii. It'll have to be Mario Kart for the time being.

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 19:10

    We are now going to have dinner before :)

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 19:10

    We are now going to have dinner before :)

    :D

  • me14/11/2009 at 19:14

    We are now going to have dinner before :)

    yay.

    (hearts) katherine xx

  • me14/11/2009 at 19:15

    pinger must be eating too:

    http://sidepodcast.com/2009/11/14/sidepodfilmclub-cars/

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 19:21

    (hearts) katherine xx

    Ahh... I'm still not sure if she's going to watch... But she didn't want to wait until afterwards to eat!

    Chicken and Ham pie and Croquet potatoes (and green beans)

  • me14/11/2009 at 19:21

    Shame it won't have online so I can show everyone that Monza really does have 36 corners! ;)

    hehe. am thinking of taking next friday off.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 19:22

    hehe. am thinking of taking next friday off.

    I wish I could do that.

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 19:22

    hehe. am thinking of taking next friday off.

    do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it. do it.

    *ahem*

    I mean... do it.

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 19:24

    hehe. am thinking of taking next friday off.

    That's reminded me. I've got some hours I need to take of work next week. Looks like I've got an afternoon off!

  • jackie / saltire14/11/2009 at 19:24

    Can I say hi and give a quick plug to a series of posts I plan to do on a Saturday. They are called "Something for the weekend" and are intended to highlight great off season writing from the F1 blogging community. Here's the first, I hope you enjoy it.

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 19:25

    Can I say hi and give a quick plug to a series of posts I plan to do on a Saturday. They are called "Something for the weekend" and are intended to highlight great off season writing from the F1 blogging community. Here's the first, I hope you enjoy it.

    Oooh love the idea Jackie :)

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 19:25

    Can I say hi and give a quick plug to a series of posts I plan to do on a Saturday. They are called "Something for the weekend" and are intended to highlight great off season writing from the F1 blogging community. Here's the first, I hope you enjoy it.

    Great idea Jackie, just been reading it now!

  • jackie / saltire14/11/2009 at 19:26

    Great idea Jackie, just been reading it now!

    Thanks .. twas the Thursday Thought that got me thinking.. I don't mean to offend if I have missed anyone off .. just add a link

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 19:33

    Up to Chapter 42 of The Grell Mystery read by Christine... It's getting really exciting now :)

    http://librivox.org/the-grell-mystery-by-frank-froest/

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 19:34

    Oooh lets see if I can write up this blog post before Cars!

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 19:34

    Up to Chapter 42 of The Grell Mystery read by Christine... It's getting really exciting now :)

    I am glad you're enjoying it :)

    Potential listeners - don't be put off by the number of chapters, they're quite short!

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 19:36

    Potential listeners - don't be put off by the number of chapters, they're quite short!

    Oh yes... That's a really good part of it. Just a short piece of action, and advancing the plot can bit fitted in almost anywhere. I got through a chapter earlier while unpacking my shopping at the supermarket and waiting for the person in front. Obviously I stopped listening when I got to the packing stage.

  • Alex Andronov14/11/2009 at 19:38

    Obviously I stopped listening when I got to the packing stage.

    I mean of course paused... I didn't just stop listening!!!

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 19:42

    Evening all

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 19:44

    I am unsure how to open my copy of Cars... this is odd

    I'll qik what I mean

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 21:18

    Evening. Hope everyone is enjoying the film. One I've yet to see.

  • me14/11/2009 at 22:19

    apparently steven roy is "full of it":

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/thieving-from-the-thieves/#comment-6309

    also, good insight from joe on pitpass.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 22:21

    apparently steven roy is "full of it":

    Needs to cut down on his salt?

    grr, I can only think of "Are you, full of it?" now.

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 22:23

    apparently steven roy is "full of it":

    Why do our motives have to be clearer? I thought they were very clear indeed.

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 22:24

    Andy, you might be interested in giving my latest blog post a read. Tis about The Office :)

    http://toata.blogspot.com/2009/11/46-why-office-is-better-away-from-uk.html

  • RG14/11/2009 at 22:25

    Why do our motives have to be clearer? I thought they were very clear indeed.

    I like Will Buxton's post.

  • me14/11/2009 at 22:26

    I like Will Buxton's post.

    he doesn't appear to be able to spell his own url though.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:26

    I like Will Buxton's post.

    me too

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:26

    he doesn't appear to be able to spell his own url though.

    You can talk, host of Sidpodcast.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:29

    he doesn't appear to be able to spell his own url though.

    am confused? where?

  • me14/11/2009 at 22:29

    You can talk, host of Sidpodcast.

    hehe :)

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 22:29

    You can talk, host of Sidpodcast.

    "Today we are talking about the long-suffering ex-partner of Eddie Large..."

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 22:30

    am confused? where?

    Mr C was suggesting searching on sidpodsearch last night.

    No indication yet to how Sid feels about this.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:31

    Mr C was suggesting searching on sidpodsearch last night.

    nonono, i know that. but he said will couldnt spell gpweek.com, and couldnt see it

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 22:31

    nonono, i know that. but he said will couldnt spell gpweek.com, and couldnt see it

    Ooh my bad.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:33

    Ooh my bad.

    no worries :D

    am adding content to my site, but none of the wordpress themes are what im looking for. i have a downloaded theme that would work but i have no idea how to upload it

  • me14/11/2009 at 22:33

    am confused? where?

    the link associated with his name willthef1journo, should link here:

    http://irrepressibleltd.com/

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:34

    am adding content to my site, but none of the wordpress themes are what im looking for. i have a downloaded theme that would work but i have no idea how to upload it

    Wordpress.com or self-hosted?

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:34

    the link associated with his name willthef1journo, should link here:

    oh ok, thought you meant where he linked at hte end. got confused

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:34

    Wordpress.com or self-hosted?

    self hosted. i have the hosting site, just no idea what to do

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 22:35

    Andy, you might be interested in giving my latest blog post a read. Tis about The Office :)

    Very good indeed, I agree that the US version is better in many ways.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:35

    self hosted. i have the hosting site, just no idea what to do

    To upload a theme you have on say, your desktop or whatever, you need ftp access.

    Otherwise, you can go to the theme section in the admin pages and do it there instead.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:43

    To upload a theme you have on say, your desktop or whatever, you need ftp access.

    the themes called small-magazine, so its in this bit in the ftp folder

    /wp-content/themes/small-magazine

    and now i dont know what to do?

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:44

    and now i dont know what to do?

    Now you need to go to themes in admin and you should see it there with the option to activate.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:45

    Now you need to go to themes in admin and you should see it there with the option to activate.

    in admin? wheres that? do you mean "appearance" then "themes" ?

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:46

    in admin? wheres that? do you mean "appearance" then "themes" ?

    Yup, then there should be little thumbnails and underneath the pic the option to preview and activate.

  • Dank14/11/2009 at 22:47

    (two days behind everybody else...)

    This talk on Joe Saward's blog about certain news syndicates makes for a fascinating read.

    (goes back to read some more...)

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:48

    Yup, then there should be little thumbnails and underneath the pic the option to preview and activate.

    but how do i tell wordpress that thats where im storing it? ive ftp'd it to the hosting, and i have to surely tell wp where the theme is? (am rubbish at all this, forgive me)

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:49

    but how do i tell wordpress that thats where im storing it? ive ftp'd it to the hosting, and i have to surely tell wp where the theme is? (am rubbish at all this, forgive me)

    Wordpress automatically looks in the /themes/ folder and works it all out.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:50

    Wordpress automatically looks in the /themes/ folder and works it all out.

    yeah, but the host is completely unrelated to wordpress, there is absolutely no way it will know thats where it is. my friend did it with our society website so ive used the same hosting company

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:51

    yeah, but the host is completely unrelated to wordpress, there is absolutely no way it will know thats where it is. my friend did it with our society website so ive used the same hosting company

    Erm, slightly confused. You need to upload the theme to wherever your Wordpress database etc is stored.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:55

    Erm, slightly confused. You need to upload the theme to wherever your Wordpress database etc is stored.

    right. ok. i am even more confused than before. i think i'll wait a week and get someone to show me.

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 22:56

    yeah, but the host is completely unrelated to wordpress, there is absolutely no way it will know thats where it is. my friend did it with our society website so ive used the same hosting company

    The only place wordpress will look is the wp-content/themes/ folder and so that's where you have to put your new theme - and the new theme should have it's own folder in there

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:57

    right. ok. i am even more confused than before. i think i'll wait a week and get someone to show me.

    Can you not go into the theme section in admin and search for the theme you want? It will do all the background stuff for you if you do it that way.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:58

    Can you not go into the theme section in admin and search for the theme you want? It will do all the background stuff for you if you do it that way.

    When i go to themes theres only 70 odd themes, the one i want is one ive downloaded from elsewhere

  • me14/11/2009 at 22:58

    When i go to themes theres only 70 odd themes, the one i want is one ive downloaded from elsewhere

    there's a phrase somewhere about walking and running :)

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 22:59

    When i go to themes theres only 70 odd themes, the one i want is one ive downloaded from elsewhere

    Under Appearance, do you have the option Add New Themes?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 22:59

    Hi all.

    Did you enjoy your film?

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 22:59

    Under Appearance, do you have the option Add New Themes?

    nope

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:00

    there's a phrase somewhere about walking and running :)

    indeeed there is, and am very aware of it. i just dont like any of the themes they give me.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 23:00

    nope

    Are you sure you're not using wordpress.com then?

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 23:00

    Did you enjoy your film?

    It was great!!

    There was this traffic ;ight...

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 23:00

    There was this traffic light...

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:00

    This talk on Joe Saward's blog about certain news syndicates makes for a fascinating read.

    I have just left a mini-rant their but it won't be moderated till tomorrow I guess. Andy's fan turned up under the name Kryonite questioning my motives for slagging him off.

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 23:01

    There was this traffic light...

    Please can the light be mentioned in the daily?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:01

    There was this traffic light...

    That sounds erm....facinating?

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:01

    I have just left a mini-rant their but it won't be moderated till tomorrow I guess. Andy's fan turned up under the name Kryonite questioning my motives for slagging him off.

    that's an odd name for a lawyer.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 23:02

    Please can the light be mentioned in the daily?

    That sounds like a challenge.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:02

    that's an odd name for a lawyer.

    He didn't claim to be a lawyer. Not sure if Joe will let my comment pass or not but we will see.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:02

    Are you sure you're not using wordpress.com then?

    is this what you're refering too?

    http://thefeederseries.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/help2.jpg

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:03

    that's an odd name for a lawyer.

    I'm thinking kryptonite there.

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 23:03

    that's an odd name for a lawyer.

    :) Speaking of lawyers (ugh) here's the latest on the Apple/Psystar case: http://bit.ly/3QOr0I

    If don't know what I'm on about, Psystar have been selling their own brand computers with OS X installed. Apple aren't happy about this and sued.

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:03

    is this what you're refering too?

    http://thefeed...com/2009/11/help2.jpg

    That's helpful - because we can now see the url

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 23:03

    is this what you're refering too?

    http://thefeed...com/2009/11/help2.jpg

    Ah-ha, so you're using Wordpress.com rather than Wordpress.org which is the self-hosted version.

    That means you're stuck with the themes they give you, I'm afraid.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:04

    I'm thinking kryptonite there.

    He actually has it as Krytonite so it probably is his dyslexic lawyer again

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:05

    That means you're stuck with the themes they give you, I'm afraid.

    What she says

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:05

    He actually has it as Krytonite so it probably is his dyslexic lawyer again

    A Red Dwarf fan?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:06

    Apparently I am full of it and my motives are not clear. I believe my new post clarifies them beautifully.

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/thieving-from-the-thieves/

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:06

    A Red Dwarf fan?

    :D

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 23:07

    Apparently I am full of it and my motives are not clear. I believe my new post clarifies them beautifully.

    Is it still in the moderation queue?

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:07

    Apparently I am full of it and my motives are not clear. I believe my new post clarifies them beautifully.

    It's under moderation isn't it? Therefore only you can see your beautiful prose?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:08

    Is it still in the moderation queue?

    Yes. Just posted it. If anyone is bored enough I can borrow the GMM process and ctrl+C then ctrl+v it here

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:08

    Yes. Just posted it. If anyone is bored enough I can borrow the GMM process and ctrl+C then ctrl+v it here

    I was going to suggest that anyway ;)

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:08

    It's under moderation isn't it? Therefore only you can see your beautiful prose?

    I will take that as overwhelming demand

    @Kryonite

    If you read my original comment I said ‘from memory’. I didn’t go back and check the precise comment or any of the exchanges I have had with Mr Maitland. Since he is often reporting stories in languages he doesn’t speak you have to question how he assesses their veracity or the degree of speculation involved. This man has no more idea of what is really going on than any serious enthusiast and indeed he has less than many people I know.

    My motives are very simple. I am not a journalist. I don’t run a website. Despite many people pushing me to do so I do not have a blog. I am a motor sport fan and that is all. I comment on F1 on a number sites although of late that number has decreased but I hope only temporarily.

    My objection to GMM is very simple. I am totally and utterly fed up reading things that turn out to be complete bull. Some people believe those stories and use them as the basis of an opinion that turns out to be completely false.

    To me sites run by fans should not be reporting news as fans have no ability to say what is true or false. Fan run sites should be about opinion, history and when discussing the news should link to proper authoritative sources. I have wasted hours discussing stories in the past that turned out to be baseless.

    At the start of this year I was involved in a discussion about a statement supposedly made by the Mercedes board which GMM had translated from the utterly unreliable Bild. Needless to say all the sites who finance GMM carried this story and it gained legs as a result. Eventually someone commented on James Allen’s site asking why he was so far behind on this when everyone knew it was true. He picked up his phone and called Mercedes who said it was complete bull and killed the story stone dead.

    All the people in any way involved in the discussion of that topic which spread round many sites just wasted their time because someone in the vicinity of Adelaide has convinced gullible people to donate money to him in return for a pile of magic beans.

    It’s funny when GMM is discussed there is always one person who turns up to defend them. Use your own name Andy. Don’t hide behind a pseudonym.

    Let’s imagine that the pieces that I would classify as ‘highly speculative’ turn out to be totally untrue 6 times out of 10,

    You have to wonder why someone running a news service doesn’t know how often his highly speculative stories prove to be accurate and is not trying to find ways to improve it. It’s called quality control and is a staple aspect of all -well nearly all- businesses.

    It is the easiest thing in the world to calculate the percentages but that needs effort and Andy is not keen on that beyond ctrl+c followed by ctrl+v with the possible inclusion of a bit of online translation.

    I wonder how Andy decides to classify a story as highly speculative. Is a story in a language he does not speak highly speculative or just complete bull. According to his website http://www.globalmotorsportmedia.com/services.htm Andy provides

    between 8 and 25 original, highly researched and professionally compiled Formula 1 news articles for publication every day.

    There is no mention surprisingly of highly speculative stories or complete bull.

    It makes no difference financially to me whether people give their hard earned money to this shyster. You have to ask what it is you are paying for when you can link for free to stories on reputable sites. If you are paying for GMM stories run your own statistics on him. Work out the accuracy of the stories he supplies and the stories that pass your own filtering process. Please do not support GMM as it will only encourage copycats and make it harder to find the truth from the bull.

    I ran my own stats when GMM was first pointed out to me. I started reading his stories and on first read saying whether I thought they were true or false. Guess what. I turned out to be more accurate than him and I have no inside information. Try it for yourself.

  • paul14/11/2009 at 23:08

    Apparently I am full of it and my motives are not clear. I believe my new post clarifies them beautifully.

    Can we now blame you for being full of it? ;-)

    (whatever "it" is)

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:10

    Can we now blame you for being full of it? ;-)

    Certainly

    (whatever "it" is)

    I believe it is the end of a four letter word the spam filter would remove

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:13

    between 8 and 25 original, highly researched and professionally compiled Formula 1 news articles for publication every day.

    8 and 25?? it's gone UP!

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 23:14

    8 and 25?? it's gone UP!

    and down? Wasn't it "at least 10....."?

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:14

    That means you're stuck with the themes they give you, I'm afraid.

    Is there absolutely nothing i can do?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:14

    There are two sections of my post that are actually quotes from elsewhere although the blockquote was lost in the copying and pasting. Just shows how easy it is to lose accuracy

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:14

    Steven: I (heart) that response and I really hope Joe publishes it.

  • paul14/11/2009 at 23:14

    8 and 25?? it's gone UP!

    Found more "sources"?

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 23:14

    Oh and bravo Steven, that was an excellent rant, I mean reply.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:14

    8 and 25?? it's gone UP!

    You need to do more for the money now. Of course you could argue 8 is less than 10

  • Dank14/11/2009 at 23:14

    Not wanting to break the illusion of who it might be, but, if it is anyone on here, could some please update the GMM related Twitter page?

    Had me guffawing lots during the only single day it lasted for :-D

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:14

    Steven: I (heart) that response and I really hope Joe publishes it.

    i very much second that. mr. roy, that is fabulous.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 23:14

    Is there absolutely nothing i can do?

    Not as far as I know.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 23:15

    Is there absolutely nothing i can do?

    Unless you move to the self-hosted version which obviously requires hosting and slightly more set-up but is otherwise more flexible.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:15

    Unless you move to the self-hosted version which obviously requires hosting and slightly more set-up but is otherwise more flexible.

    i think thats what i was trying to do. just not sure how

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:16

    and down? Wasn't it "at least 10....."?

    It's hard to find 10 when everyone takes a month break in august.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:16

    It's hard to find 10 when everyone takes a month break in august.

    imagine doing it in the off season.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:16

    I will take that as overwhelming demand

    I think it will pass moderation.

    I don't think I can say anymore, its all been said. Apart from the fact that as a blog owner on a certain driver, news is, dry, to say the least. Especially to one not in the news every day (ie Button, I feel sorry for the Buemi fans). So friends often link me news stories which are just bloody crap from that lot, I have to tell them, thats GMM, thats 9/10 going to be wrong. It annoys me to think I have something to post, to put an opinion on, and then find out its useless old junk. Or, made up junk. I want to read good, quality, researched stuff and what 7/10 on the internet isn't that. (as in 'news' stories')

    Nothing more to say, blimey, maybe not.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:17

    Steven: I (heart) that response and I really hope Joe publishes it.

    I think given his views on the subject it should squeeze through relatively intact. Maybe I should e-mail it to Andy.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:17

    It's hard to find 10 when everyone takes a month break in august.

    Does it also include Christmas Day?

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:17

    Not wanting to break the illusion of who it might be, but, if it is anyone on here, could some please update the GMM related Twitter page?

    ahh, that's brilliant. seconded.

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:17

    Does it also include Christmas Day?

    yup.

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 23:17

    i think thats what i was trying to do. just not sure how

    There are some great guides available: http://wordpress.org/download/

    Just yell if you need any more help.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:18

    Not wanting to break the illusion of who it might be, but, if it is anyone on here, could some please update the GMM related Twitter page?

    I know exactly who that is. I believe he has his own claim to the GMM accronym

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:18

    I think given his views on the subject it should squeeze through relatively intact. Maybe I should e-mail it to Andy.

    If he doesn't, you can put it in a guest post on my blog if you like

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:18

    yup.

    "Lewis Hamilton was seen hanging out at Jenson Buttons home for Christmas dinner. This sparks more rumours that the two will be together at McLaren"

    Ooops, best stop giving them ideas.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:19

    Not wanting to break the illusion of who it might be, but, if it is anyone on here, could some please update the GMM related Twitter page?

    ahh, that's brilliant. seconded.

    especially now Joe has pointed it out

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:20

    Does it also include Christmas Day?

    Check his website. You can read the whole site in 30 seconds but then it is his own original content so it was never going to be wordy.

    http://www.globalmotorsportmedia.com/services.htm

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:20

    especially now Joe has pointed it out

    he has?

  • Dank14/11/2009 at 23:20

    he has?

    Edited his original article to include it.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:20

    he has?

    He updated the original post with the link

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:20

    imagine doing it in the off season.

    This week:

    Wednesday - 7

    Thursday - 7

    Friday - 5

    Saturday - 2

    Sunday - screw you, I'm having a barbie instead

    Syndicators should sue for breach of contract

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:21

    Edited his original article to include it.

    (hearts) joe and steven :)

    have only been reading the comments.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:21

    Check his website. You can read the whole site in 30 seconds but then it is his own original content so it was never going to be wordy.

    People look at that site, and with first impressions think, oooh, nice professional look? The logo is awful.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:22

    There are some great guides available: http://wordpress.org/download/

    thankin ya.

    ive read through it, and am utterly clueless. so will wait until i get back to uni and use one of the techno peeps there to show me how to do it

  • Dank14/11/2009 at 23:22

    I know exactly who that is. I believe he has his own claim to the GMM accronym

    *strokes chin*

    Hmm... Vewyinterwesting...

  • Christine14/11/2009 at 23:23

    ive read through it, and am utterly clueless. so will wait until i get back to uni and use one of the techno peeps there to show me how to do it

    Goodo.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:23

    "PS: Since I wrote this article I have been sent a Twitter feed which is alleged to come from the people in question. I don’t think it does, but it is rather funny. Have a look here."

    How did you work that one out joe? ;)

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:24

    How did you work that one out joe? ;)

    added emphasis from moi

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:25

    How did you work that one out joe? ;)

    Well it hadn't been copied from anywhere for starters - a dead giveaway

  • paul14/11/2009 at 23:25

    Hmm... Vewyinterwesting...

    Nick Heidfeld?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:25

    *strokes chin*

    Co-incidently the ggm twitter appeared when a lawyer's misspelled letter appeared at sidepodcast towers and some of us were so upset we had to resort to twitter to discuss our views on gmm

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:25

    How did you work that one out joe? ;)

    It has the greatest Twitter avatar ever

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:25

    added emphasis from moi

    "Two F1 journalists go into a bar... I can't tell you what happened next because I wasn't invited. They all hate me :("

    :D :D

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:26

    "Two F1 journalists go into a bar... I can't tell you what happened next because I wasn't invited. They all hate me :("

    :D :D

    hehehhehe

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:26

    Okay, this page

    http://www.gmmf1.net/index.php?action=show&content=about

    Recent news. So the most recent 'news' it has got, it says more than 8 a day. So 1 news story today, which was known yesterday.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:27

    "Two F1 journalists go into a bar... I can't tell you what happened next because I wasn't invited. They all hate me :("

    :D :D

    haha

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:28

    People look at that site, and with first impressions think, oooh, nice professional look? The logo is awful.

    That's one scary logo. A one-eyed, flesh-eating chimpanzee springs to mind.

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 23:29

    Recent news. So the most recent 'news' it has got, it says more than 8 a day. So 1 news story today, which was known yesterday.

    I await 'Button manager mentions how 'he visited Mclaren' on a day rumoured to be after thursday but not quite Saturday'

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:29

    Does it also include Christmas Day?

    Check his website. You can read the whole site in 30 seconds but then it is his own original content so it was never going to be wordy.

    http://www.glo...edia.com/services.htm

    Interesting, because this other site says 10-20.

    http://www.gmmf1.net/index.php?action=show&content=services

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:30

    That's one scary logo. A one-eyed, flesh-eating chimpanzee springs to mind.

    I thought handcuffs and assumed he was a friend of Max

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:30

    Interesting, because this other site says 10-20.

    http://www.gmm...&content=services

    how confused is he?

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:30

    I thought handcuffs and assumed he was a friend of Max

    Especially with the 'MM' in the middle?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:31

    I know where the g in the GMM logo comes from. Can't believe it took me so long to find it

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:31

    http://www.google.com/

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:31

    Especially with the 'MM' in the middle?

    So true - we should design them a new logo *evil laugh*

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:32

    It's the second g in google with a minor mod

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 23:32

    I know where the g in the GMM logo comes from. Can't believe it took me so long to find it

    Oh my.

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 23:35

    how confused is he?

    It say they are highly researched and professionally compiled, so I'd say very confused.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:37

    So true - we should design them a new logo *evil laugh*

    I see a Forti car with the slogan 'Last in the race for F1 news, and usually crap anyways'

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:38

    It say they are highly researched and professionally compiled, so I'd say very confused.

    :)

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:38

    It's the second g in google with a minor mod

    It's a common style of g to complete the loop - Times New Roman, Book Antiqua, Garmond etc. It's much more stylised than Google though - they use a font called Catull

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:40

    It's much more stylised than Google though - they use a font called Catull

    That is about the geekiest thing I have read on here. How many people know what font google use?

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:41

    That is about the geekiest thing I have read on here. How many people know what font google use?

    not i.

    *doffs cap to mav*

  • paul14/11/2009 at 23:41

    That is about the geekiest thing I have read on here. How many people know what font google use?

    um........:D

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:41

    I feel it may be an error to tell you I bought a webcam today

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 23:41

    That is about the geekiest thing I have read on here. How many people know what font google use?

    I work with people that can do that. To wind them up, you just have to say how much you like the font Comic Sans.

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:41

    That is about the geekiest thing I have read on here. How many people know what font google use?

    You just google it :-) It's self advertising

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:42

    I feel it may be an error to tell you I bought a webcam today

    You know the line. Pictures or it didn't happen

  • Maverick14/11/2009 at 23:43

    I work with people that can do that. To wind them up, you just have to say how much you like the font Comic Sans.

    That works for me.

    Mmmmhhh, is my wife deliberately winding me up by always using it?

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:43

    You know the line. Pictures or it didn't happen

    Or even better, pictures from the webcam.

  • Andy Taylor14/11/2009 at 23:44

    Mmmmhhh, is my wife deliberately winding me up by always using it?

    You could ask her, but if she's been reading this site she'll have her noise-cancelling headphones on...

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:45

    You know the line. Pictures or it didn't happen

    Or even better, pictures from the webcam.

    That would involve unpacking it and plugging it in

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:45

    #sidepodspace update

    Things are going ridiculously well with less than two days till the launch. Everything is right on target and weather for the launch site is still 90%. Weather is also looking good for the trans-Atlantic abort sites. The only potential fly in the ointment is high seas in the area where the solid rocket boosters will land after they are jettisoned.

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:45

    Going to bed, ot a headache #blamegmm so packing it in. Game tomorrow and may have a full one so sleep required. lotsa love.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:45

    Or even better, pictures from the webcam.

    That's what I meant

  • Lukeh14/11/2009 at 23:46

    Going to bed, ot a headache #blamegmm so packing it in. Game tomorrow and may have a full one so sleep required. lotsa love.

    Night RG

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:46

    for anyone who was away earlier, this happened:

    http://twitpic.com/phqsc

    will post about it in the week, but seeing as christine is in bed - a quick thank you from me to all commenters, everywhere.

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:46

    Going to bed, ot a headache #blamegmm so packing it in. Game tomorrow and may have a full one so sleep required. lotsa love.

    Night

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:46

    That would involve unpacking it and plugging it in

    Are you planning on keeping it in the box and hoping one day you can sell it as an antique?

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:46

    Night RG. I'm going too. adios

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:46

    Going to bed, ot a headache #blamegmm so packing it in. Game tomorrow and may have a full one so sleep required. lotsa love.

    night rg xx

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:47

    Night RG. I'm going too. adios

    night jon xx

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:47

    Good night RG

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:47

    Night RG. I'm going too. adios

    See you in a minute ;-)

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:47

    See you in a minute ;-)

    shhhhhhhaddap :P

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:48

    for anyone who was away earlier, this happened:

    Fantastic. Just when you predicted it would happen as well

  • Pat W14/11/2009 at 23:48

    Are you planning on keeping it in the box and hoping one day you can sell it as an antique?

    :-)

    I'm planning on using it to speak to my sister in Spain tomorrow. Next you'll want me to make a ustream account.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:48

    Night Jon

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:49

    Fantastic. Just when you predicted it would happen as well

    i figured during filmwatch, but there must've been a lot of chatter overnight.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:49

    Fantastic. Just when you predicted it would happen as well

    The 500,000's comment was nick saying....

    I need more hours in the day...

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:49

    :-)Next you'll want me to make a ustream account.

    You haven't got a ustream account?

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:49

    By the way, did anyone remember to tell lou about the london triathalon thingy with Jenson in it that Steven mentioned earlier, since I forgot.

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:49

    i figured during filmwatch, but there must've been a lot of chatter overnight.

    yeah, about that brawn kid, you know, the one lou dosent like...the one thats going to mclaren ;) :P :D

  • Jon Waldock14/11/2009 at 23:50

    By the way, did anyone remember to tell lou about the london triathalon thingy with Jenson in it that Steven mentioned earlier, since I forgot.

    she saw it :)

  • RG14/11/2009 at 23:50

    she saw it :)

    good, now, bed.

    (You too Jon)

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:51

    By the way, did anyone remember to tell lou about the london triathalon thingy with Jenson in it that Steven mentioned earlier, since I forgot.

    Is she out somewhere tonight?

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:51

    she saw it :)

    That's good

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:51

    The 500,000's comment was nick saying....

    I need more hours in the day...

    says it all!

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:52

    Is she out somewhere tonight?

    fireworks with emily.

  • Steven Roy14/11/2009 at 23:52

    I need more hours in the day...

    That needs to go on the sidepodcast tagline list

  • lou14/11/2009 at 23:58

    fireworks with emily.

    we are back now :)

  • Chris14/11/2009 at 23:58

    we are back now :)

    how was it?

  • me14/11/2009 at 23:59

    we are back now :)

    wet as an otters pocket?

  • lou15/11/2009 at 00:00

    The fireworks were stunning! I've not seen fireworks like that before, the bonfire was also huge!!!!

  • Andy Taylor15/11/2009 at 00:02

    fireworks with emily.

    Fireworks was last weekend. Does anyone else think it's sad that fireworks are set off over an extended period around the 5th November and again at New Year. When I was young, we got fireworks on the 5th November or the 6th if the 5th was a Sunday (apparently you're not supposed to celebrate the execution of a Catholic on the sabbath).

    How are people supposed to know when to keep their pets inside?

  • Maverick15/11/2009 at 00:03

    So true - we should design them a new logo *evil laugh*

    The ultimate in cut and pasting from news sources: http://i38.tinypic.com/29e6p6o.jpg

  • lou15/11/2009 at 00:03

    wet as an otters pocket?

    actually no, itvwas kinda windy, but no rain, just lots of mud. It was even slightly mild. The worst part of the evening was the cramped journey home. There were many many drunk and angry people trying to kill each other.... We didn't enjoy that bit.

  • Pat W15/11/2009 at 00:04

    The ultimate in cut and pasting from news sources: http://i38.tinypic.com/29e6p6o.jpg

    :-)

  • Steven Roy15/11/2009 at 00:05

    The ultimate in cut and pasting from news sources: http://i38.tinypic.com/29e6p6o.jpg

    Like it

  • lou15/11/2009 at 00:06

    How are people supposed to know when to keep their pets inside?

    this was a town fireworks thing, which stems from medival town rivalry, there was a torch lit parade and everything. Not really anything to do with nov5th. But I understand and agree with your point.

  • Maverick15/11/2009 at 00:07

    this was a town fireworks thing, which stems from medival town rivalry, there was a torch lit parade and everything. Not really anything to do with nov5th. But I understand and agree with your point.

    Oh, a good old fashioned lynching mob?

  • littlepurplegoth15/11/2009 at 00:09

    this was a town fireworks thing, which stems from medival town rivalry, there was a torch lit parade and everything. Not really anything to do with nov5th. But I understand and agree with your point.

    But he does of course forget all the other uses for foreworks that are not guy fawkes related... like squibbing in Bridgwater, and the tar barrels (which are actually the same as squibbs) in Hastings and Lewes....

  • lou15/11/2009 at 00:09

    Oh, a good old fashioned lynching mob?

    yes, that came on the train, I hate being all cramped and scared on trains lol

  • Maverick15/11/2009 at 00:10

    yes, that came on the train, I hate being all cramped and scared on trains lol

    Pitchforks and everything?

  • lou15/11/2009 at 00:11

    But he does of course forget all the other uses for foreworks that are not guy fawkes related... like squibbing in Bridgwater, and the tar barrels (which are actually the same as squibbs) in Hastings and Lewes....

    :D hey lpg long time no see, how are you?

  • lou15/11/2009 at 00:12

    Pitchforks and everything?

    they had a fire extinguisher if that counts

  • littlepurplegoth15/11/2009 at 00:13

    :D hey lpg long time no see, how are you?

    Hellooooo - fine thank you, just found the firefox shortcut today rather than reading over andy's shoulder and saying 'you need to say...'

  • lou15/11/2009 at 00:15

    Hellooooo - fine thank you, just found the firefox shortcut today rather than reading over andy's shoulder and saying 'you need to say...'

    :D

  • Maverick15/11/2009 at 00:15

    they had a fire extinguisher if that counts

    #stupidhealthandsafety

  • lou15/11/2009 at 00:17

    #stupidhealthandsafety

    not to extinguish a fire tho... I got elbowed badly in the ribs.. It still hurts :(

  • Pat W15/11/2009 at 00:40

    I feel it may be an error to tell you I bought a webcam today

    You know the line. Pictures or it didn't happen

    I look terrible, but it is after midnight.. I'm going to regret this.

    http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad205/PWotton/Picture1.jpg

  • paul15/11/2009 at 00:41

    I look terrible, but it is after midnight.. I'm going to regret this.

    http://i936.ph.../PWotton/Picture1.jpg

    eeek! whats that growing on your nose?!

  • Pat W15/11/2009 at 00:43

    eeek! whats that growing on your nose?!

    a wine glass which is an ex-Grolsch bottle :-)