Apparently today is the "International Day of Families" and this year's theme is "Challenges in a Changing World." Nice and fitting, as we heard this week about Felipe Baby actually having a baby. Anyway, here's some of the things we're talking about:

  • It's the big pow wow today, as the FIA and FOTA go head to head to discuss the 2010 regulations, and Bernie Ecclestone sticks his oar in as well. There's no knowing whether we'll hear anything tomorrow or not, but at least the debate isn't dragging on and they're getting on with trying to sort things out.
  • In two very different news items, I read that Lewis Hamilton hasn't given up on the title challenge yet, and that he tips Button for the win this year. I'm not sure how you can do both, and I'm not sure who to believe. Nevertheless, that Hamiltonometer is swinging well. I am going to keep using that until it catches on, by the way.
  • Button's signed up to do some running and stuff in London during the summer break in August. I don't know about you, but my idea of a summer holiday isn't participating in a triathlon around our nation's capital, even if it is for charity. Good on him, though.

That should keep you going for now. I imagine there'll be plenty to talk about today, but we'll see. I'll be popping in and out of the comments, so I might see you there.

1046 responses

  • Amy14/05/2009 at 23:56

    i am at work. I feel rubbish. Only 7 hours til i can leave! Why didnt anyone try harder to stop me last night? I won 13 magazines though so lack of sleep = worth it :)

  • Steven Roy14/05/2009 at 23:58

    i am at work. I feel rubbish. Only 7 hours til i can leave! Why didnt anyone try harder to stop me last night? I won 13 magazines though so lack of sleep = worth it :)

    You had 4 hours sleep. What more do you want.

    Glad you got the mags

  • me14/05/2009 at 23:58

    i am at work. I feel rubbish. Only 7 hours til i can leave! Why didnt anyone try harder to stop me last night? I won 13 magazines though so lack of sleep = worth it :)

    i'll start early then...

    amy, go to sleep.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 00:00

    i am at work. I feel rubbish. Only 7 hours til i can leave! Why didnt anyone try harder to stop me last night? I won 13 magazines though so lack of sleep = worth it :)

    Keep a running count of the number of cups of tea/coffee/energy drink you are consuming.

  • me15/05/2009 at 00:14

    night peeps.

  • Amy15/05/2009 at 00:15

    so far one cup of tea and half a bottle of mountain dew. Break in 30 min will be a coffee. I dont like energy drinks :(

  • Dave in NZL15/05/2009 at 00:25

    Mountain Dew; tastes like fizzy wees.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 00:49

    How you know what wees tastes like is the more important issue!

  • Selidor15/05/2009 at 00:58

    no mountain dew in the uk, right? btw Im jus back from a party and Ill be here for half an hour or so ;)

  • Amy15/05/2009 at 01:20

    i hated it as a kid so didnt drink it until i was 20 when someone told me to give it another try so i am making up for the lost years of drinking time

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 01:51

    no mountain dew in the uk, right? btw Im jus back from a party and Ill be here for half an hour or so ;)

    Someone the other day said they knew where to get it in the UK

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 03:31

    Evening all. I miss anything?

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:40

    Evening all. I miss anything?

    i'm not here.

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 03:41

    i'm not here.

    Any special reason?

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:42

    Any special reason?

    supposed to be working :)

  • Paul (oz)15/05/2009 at 03:44

    supposed to be working :)

    Me too, So I guess I'm not here either

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 03:44

    Me too, So I guess I'm not here either

    In that case, I'm not here as soon as my girlfriend figures out what I'm doing.

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:44

    Me too, So I guess I'm not here either

    yay :)

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:45

    In that case, I'm not here as soon as my girlfriend figures out what I'm doing.

    perfect. we absolutely should discuss f1 then.

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 03:46

    perfect. we absolutely should discuss f1 then.

    So when is the meeting today? And who all are going to it?

  • Paul (oz)15/05/2009 at 03:47

    So when is the meeting today? And who all are going to it?

    Both good questions.

    And will they listen to each other?

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:47

    So when is the meeting today? And who all are going to it?

    grandprix.com has some info on it.

    i think luca, max and bernie.

  • Paul (oz)15/05/2009 at 03:50

    grandprix.com has some info on it.

    Yeah, Joe does not paint a rosy picture on his blog does he?

  • Amy15/05/2009 at 03:50

    f1 eh. Apparently it is "failing on its green promises" i cant read the article due to my bbc only access but i for one am shocked. What do you mean a green ring on a tyre doesnt make the sport carbon neutral?

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:51

    Yeah, Joe does not paint a rosy picture on his blog does he?

    nope. the annoying thing is it'll overshadow the monaco gp, just when the whole world is watching.

  • Paul (oz)15/05/2009 at 03:52

    What do you mean a green ring on a tyre doesnt make the sport carbon neutral?

    I'm sure that Force India has some green on it somewhere too

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 03:52

    nope. the annoying thing is it'll overshadow the monaco gp, just when the whole world is watching.

    At least it's this week and not right before the race.

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 03:53

    f1 eh. Apparently it is "failing on its green promises" i cant read the article due to my bbc only access but i for one am shocked. What do you mean a green ring on a tyre doesnt make the sport carbon neutral?

    Didn't they plant some trees or something too?

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:54

    f1 eh. Apparently it is "failing on its green promises" i cant read the article due to my bbc only access but i for one am shocked. What do you mean a green ring on a tyre doesnt make the sport carbon neutral?

    in short... max is ace and the teams suck. even though the fia themselves back the green stripey tyre thing.

    am getting the impression max/fia are calling in some favours. this is looking like a coordinated PR assault prior to the meeting.

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:54

    I'm sure that Force India has some green on it somewhere too

    :)

  • Paul (oz)15/05/2009 at 03:54

    Didn't they plant some trees or something too?

    I'm sure one of those KERS thingys regenerated some energy at some point too. Can't quite remember when tho

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:56

    I'm sure one of those KERS thingys regenerated some energy at some point too. Can't quite remember when tho

    fred pearce who wrote the article is clueless.

    any failing on the part of kers can be attributed to max/fia, either for picking too conservative regeneration targets, or for failing to predict the issue with driver weights.

    the teams are trying.

  • Paul (oz)15/05/2009 at 03:56

    Just on this whole FIA/FOTA money thing. Surely the FIA don't want F1 destroyed so, is there something we don't know? Are FOTA being outrageous in their budget cap claims? Are the FIA simply bluffing, and going to give in to something?

  • Paul (oz)15/05/2009 at 03:58

    Woops! Meeting time......

  • me15/05/2009 at 03:58

    Just on this whole FIA/FOTA money thing. Surely the FIA don't want F1 destroyed so, is there something we don't know? Are FOTA being outrageous in their budget cap claims? Are the FIA simply bluffing, and going to give in to something?

    hard to say. most people seem to think it's win or bust for max.

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:00

    Just on this whole FIA/FOTA money thing. Surely the FIA don't want F1 destroyed so, is there something we don't know? Are FOTA being outrageous in their budget cap claims? Are the FIA simply bluffing, and going to give in to something?

    I found the best summary of the issues on the table to be Joe's analysis over at his blog.

    I feel like it's the FIA that's going to give on this one, and the teams will win out. Maybe they will make some concessions to help get the new teams on the grid...

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:04

    hard to say. most people seem to think it's win or bust for max.

    Is there anyone campaigning to run against Max in the upcoming election?

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:06

    Is there anyone campaigning to run against Max in the upcoming election?

    rumours. but no clear leader so far as we know.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:07

    Is $40M alot of money though?

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:08

    rumours. but no clear leader so far as we know.

    Ugh. That's disappointing to those of us hoping for bust.

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:10

    Is $40M alot of money though?

    for ferrari. no.

    for lola. yes.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:12

    I think $40M makes it 'afordable' for too many people

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:12

    Is $40M alot of money though?

    It's $60M, or 40M Pounds Sterling. For a big team like Ferrari or Toyota, they typically spend about 5 to 10 times that much money per year.

    Googling shows me these are the 2003 team budget numbers:

    $443,800,000 Ferrari

    $353,300,000 Williams

    $304,600,000 McLaren

    $290,400,000 Toyota

    $225,100,000 BAR

    $206,800,000 Renault

    $119,500,000 Sauber

    $ 79,200,000 Jordan

    $ 78,800,000 Jaguar

    $ 39,600,000 Minardi

    Here's the link:

    http://www.fastmachines.com/f1/the-price-of-formula-1/

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:14

    Is $40M alot of money though?

    having said that, i don't think the money is the issue.

    no way in the month of sundays, are ferrari, toyota, bmw etc going to let the fia poke their noses into their finances.

    and to be honest, neither would i. not because they or i have have anything to hide, but because it's none of max's business.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:15

    Are those number the total money spent for the season including the winter?

    Everything from Kimi's icecream to, um something else funny that I can't think of

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:15

    and to be honest, neither would i. not because they or i have have anything to hide, but because it's none of max's business.

    I agree 100%

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:17

    Are those number the total money spent for the season including the winter?

    Yes. They're not the total developmental budget, they are the total yearly budget so this would include work on the 2004 car.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:17

    The people who will suffer will be the mechanics and the poor buggers working away in the factors don't you think? They will have a lower salary.

    F1 will be a less lucrative carrer path.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 04:17

    and to be honest, neither would i. not because they or i have have anything to hide, but because it's none of max's business.

    but if other sports can do it, why not F1? baseball. basketball, us & euro football, they do it.

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:19

    F1 will be a less lucrative carrer path.

    agreed. and superstar designers will move on to other sports.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:19

    and to be honest, neither would i. not because they or i have have anything to hide, but because it's none of max's business.

    That is different though

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:19

    agreed. and superstar designers will move on to other sports.

    Or building Super Coliders with unlimited budgets!

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:20

    but if other sports can do it, why not F1? baseball. basketball, us & euro football, they do it.

    but do they do anything else?

    e.g. ferrari make road cars as a business. what do baseballs teams do other than play baseball?

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:21

    but do they do anything else?

    But surely Max isn't looking at the Ferrari budget, he's just looking at their F1 budget. Lists of parts and hours sheets for the boffins... that's it, right?

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:21

    e.g. ferrari make road cars as a business. what do baseballs teams do other than play baseball?

    Plus baseball you have a huge player/driver list. In F1 it only two who are on stupid money

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 04:21

    but do they do anything else?

    yup - they also sell merchandise, they get their own stadiums built, and the like. sure, that's not a completely different business per se, but these are non-sport activities.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 04:22

    But surely Max isn't looking at the Ferrari budget, he's just looking at their F1 budget. Lists of parts and hours sheets for the boffins... that's it, right?

    and yes, that too. :)

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:23

    Ferrari are successful though. Why punish that.

    Aren't they the only car company making money?

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:23

    But surely Max isn't looking at the Ferrari budget, he's just looking at their F1 budget. Lists of parts and hours sheets for the boffins... that's it, right?

    he has to look at everything. else how will he know what the windtunnel was used for? a new road car, or f1 parts...

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:25

    he has to look at everything. else how will he know what the windtunnel was used for? a new road car, or f1 parts...

    In that case, I'm with you. That's not Max's business. Other than that, I really feel like a budget cap is a good thing, just not the one that Max has set... something more reasonable.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:25

    Plus IF A1 GP continues could they not just be looking into new 'concepts' for the car in that series?

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:26

    Plus IF A1 GP continues could they not just be looking into new 'concepts' for the car in that series?

    absolutely. and that's just the start.

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:28

    Plus IF A1 GP continues could they not just be looking into new 'concepts' for the car in that series?

    But there needs to be a top racing series, there has to be some bleeding edge of technology, and I don't think a single make series like that could do it.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:28

    I have an idea

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:29

    But there needs to be a top racing series, there has to be some bleeding edge of technology, and I don’t think a single make series like that could do it.

    Nah I am saying they could just Pretend to be developing the A1 car and be giving the F1 team the findings free of charge.

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:29

    I have an idea

    do tell.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:31

    Honky Tonk Racing is going to start up business

    We will be a charaty organisation that is dedicated to pursuit of excelence. Will will accept donations from F1 teams. But behind closed dorrs we will be running our wind tunnel and the results will be left on the coffe table spygate style.

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:32

    We will be a charaty organisation that is dedicated to pursuit of excelence. Will will accept donations from F1 teams. But behind closed dorrs we will be running our wind tunnel and the results will be left on the coffe table spygate style.

    :P

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:33

    We are looking for employees!

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:33

    On another note.........

    How is it possible that Red Bull can support two teams? I can't work that company out. They have two F1 teams, A WRC team, An Americas Cup team, Football, every extreme sport under the sun etc etc etc etc.

    How is that?

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:33

    We will be a charaty organisation that is dedicated to pursuit of excelence. Will will accept donations from F1 teams. But behind closed dorrs we will be running our wind tunnel and the results will be left on the coffe table spygate style.

    I've got $6, can I invest?

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:34

    We are looking for employees!

    I'm also trained in wind tunnel testing!

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:34

    How is it possible that Red Bull can support two teams? I can't work that company out. They have two F1 teams, A WRC team, An Americas Cup team, Football, every extreme sport under the sun etc etc etc etc.

    financially? they sell a lot of cans.

  • me15/05/2009 at 04:34

    and on that note, i must sleep. not that i was here you understand...

    night all ;)

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:35

    night all ;)

    G'night me, I'm about to sleep myself.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:35

    You recon? You think it is that good? The bussiness?

    That is alot of cans!

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:36

    How is it possible that Red Bull can support two teams? I can't work that company out. They have two F1 teams, A WRC team, An Americas Cup team, Football, every extreme sport under the sun etc etc etc etc.

    In 2008 Red Bull reported $4.28 Billion in sales. I'd imagine with sponsorships and prize money and whatnot... it adds up.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 04:38

    In 2008 Red Bull reported $4.28 Billion in sales. I'd imagine with sponsorships and prize money and whatnot... it adds up.

    WOW!

  • Vinnie15/05/2009 at 04:41

    To quote Top Gear, "And on that bombshell, goodnight!"

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 04:49

    and on that note, i must sleep. not that i was here you understand...

    next thing i know, everyone's chatting during the Monaco GP, but no one's really here... :P

  • Amy15/05/2009 at 05:43

    i am always here. I cannot deny the truth. Borg

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 05:54

    Wait... you're talking about A1GP without me?

    Oh and good morning BTW!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 05:55

    In two very different news items, I read that Lewis Hamilton hasn’t given up on the title challenge yet, and that he tips Button for the win this year. I’m not sure how you can do both, and I’m not sure who to believe. Nevertheless, that Hamiltonometer is swinging well. I am going to keep using that until it catches on, by the way.

    What about the Hamiltron? Hamiltome? Hamilgauge? Hamiltoniscope?

  • Paul (oz)15/05/2009 at 06:04

    What about the Hamiltron? Hamiltome? Hamilgauge? Hamiltoniscope?

    I like Hamiltome

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 06:34

    i am always here. I cannot deny the truth. Borg

    My goodness - you HAVE turned into Borg. Apparently, if we repeat something often enough, it becomes the truth. :P

    That's good news for Christine's Hamiltonometer...

    I like Hamiltome

    I personally prefer Hamiltometer. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 07:12

    Plus IF A1 GP continues could they not just be looking into new 'concepts' for the car in that series?

    absolutely. and that's just the start.

    Ah. So Ferrari could spend $100 million on developing a new A1GP car and then build the F1 car for it? Smart idea. Mclaren could do that too with their technology or Road car department...

    I remember when there was a winter Testing ban, Toyota flouted it by testing their new F1 engine in their old GT-1 Le Mans car. This sort of stuff is probably why the teams are against the budget caps, they know they are all too smart to stick to them!

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 07:19

    Ah. So Ferrari could spend $100 million on developing a new A1GP car and then build the F1 car for it? Smart idea. Mclaren could do that too with their technology or Road car department…

    I keep mentioning this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought anything the F1 team receives from external sources (even from their A1GP effort) will still be credited as part of their expenses?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 07:37

    Ah. So Ferrari could spend $100 million on developing a new A1GP car and then build the F1 car for it? Smart idea. Mclaren could do that too with their technology or Road car department…

    I keep mentioning this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought anything the F1 team receives from external sources (even from their A1GP effort) will still be credited as part of their expenses?

    Yes but Accountants being accountants, they WILL find a way around that one!

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 07:46

    I like Hamiltome

    I like Lewisometer

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 07:54

    Yes but Accountants being accountants, they WILL find a way around that one!

    Funnily enough, the accounting firm hired by Max (I think it's Deloitte) said that even if accountants try to hide it, it can be traced...

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 08:14

    Morning.

    It's Hamiltonometer.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 08:25

    It's Hamiltonometer.

    hehe I call it something else that's not printable

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 08:28

    hehe I call it something else that's not printable

    :)

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 08:36

    Morning.

    It’s Hamiltonometer.

    If you insist. :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 08:39

    Morning.

    It's Hamiltonometer.

    Ah sorry, misread the post due to being overexcited (surprise visit from colleagues from NZ!) - thought you were looking for other names too...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 08:39

    hehe I call it something else that's not printable

    :)

    Aww :(

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 08:41

    Ah sorry, misread the post due to being overexcited (surprise visit from colleagues from NZ!) - thought you were looking for other names too...

    Hamilguage is good, but it's not the one :)

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 08:41

    Hamilguage is good, but it's not the one :)

    That's like catchphrase :)

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 08:44

    Hey - Bernie with no glasses on!

    http://schlegelmilch.smcc.de/archive/preview/6948dfe96607b2655e9e17e98c737f4c/94882/0905-0035.jpg

  • Amy15/05/2009 at 08:47

    Hey - Bernie with no glasses on!

    link no worky

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 08:48

    Rainer Schlegelmilch has some nice pics from Spain. Some candid poses from Bernie (as mentioned above) and Keke Rosberg.

    Just found out that link won't work directly. :( You need to create an account to view the pics, but it's for free.

    http://schlegelmilch.smcc.de/archive/index.php

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 09:04

    Ah sorry, misread the post due to being overexcited (surprise visit from colleagues from NZ!) - thought you were looking for other names too...

    So what happened was that my old colleagues have flown all the way from NZ to Denmark for a meeting with someone else in the company - and didn't tell me! Was great to see them and we are going for beers later... what a strange surprise though! :D

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 09:05

    So what happened was that my old colleagues have flown all the way from NZ to Denmark for a meeting with someone else in the company - and didn't tell me! Was great to see them and we are going for beers later... what a strange surprise though! :D

    Very cool.

  • Amy15/05/2009 at 09:09

    So what happened was that my old colleagues have flown all the way from NZ to Denmark for a meeting with someone else in the company - and didn't tell me! Was great to see them and we are going for beers later... what a strange surprise though! :D

    awesome!

  • Amy15/05/2009 at 09:40

    just started watching the first Australian TV broadcast of Eurovision this year. The Australian commentators are annoying me already, 3 minutes in.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 09:40

    awesome!

    That is fantastic. They missed ya! Hahaha! Enjoy your day with them! :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 09:41

    just started watching the first Australian TV broadcast of Eurovision this year. The Australian commentators are annoying me already, 3 minutes in.

    Who are the commentators?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 09:42

    awesome!

    That is fantastic. They missed ya! Hahaha! Enjoy your day with them! :D

    They do - they offered me a job on the spot!

  • Amy15/05/2009 at 09:44

    Who are the commentators?

    I don't even know who they are, I think they are Australian TV hosts. So far they've come up with gems such as 'oh how I love a host with a lisp' and 'oh wow. its starting.' They're overly sarcastic which I think they think is funny but it comes across as very 'lets laugh at Europe, we're better than them'

    For some reason the tv station is having voting on its website even though this is the first semi final which was a couple of days ago.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 09:51

    Gooood morning.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 09:59

    Gooood morning.

    Morning Lukeh!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 10:00

    Who are the commentators?

    I don't even know who they are, I think they are Australian TV hosts. So far they've come up with gems such as 'oh how I love a host with a lisp' and 'oh wow. its starting.' They're overly sarcastic which I think they think is funny but it comes across as very 'lets laugh at Europe, we're better than them'

    For some reason the tv station is having voting on its website even though this is the first semi final which was a couple of days ago.

    Are they the sort that would be on Rove or the oldies sort?

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 10:01

    So what happened was that my old colleagues have flown all the way from NZ to Denmark for a meeting with someone else in the company - and didn't tell me! Was great to see them and we are going for beers later... what a strange surprise though! :D

    Hehe, sounds like an awesome surprise. :)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 11:19

    *jumps about in sidepodsilence*

    Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me... is there anybody home? :P

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 11:25

    Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me... is there anybody home? :P

    I'm here.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 11:29

    I'm here.

    Hurrah!

    It's too quiet, and there's too little F1 news. :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 11:31

    I'm here.

    Hurrah!

    It's too quiet, and there's too little F1 news. :(

    I'm here too - but very busy. The preview quotes are trickling in and there was a story on Lola earlier. Not much else, though...

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 11:32

    It's too quiet, and there's too little F1 news. :(

    No news is good news, they say.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 11:33

    No news is good news, they say.

    True, true. Although I'm checking out Jenson's sponsor page for thre Triathlon and I see Martin Brundle has donated £500 :o

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 11:33

    It's too quiet, and there's too little F1 news. :(

    No news is good news, they say.

    I think no news means FOTA and Max are still talking...?

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 11:35

    True, true. Although I'm checking out Jenson's sponsor page for thre Triathlon and I see Martin Brundle has donated £500 :o

    Ooh, lovely.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 11:36

    Have just donated £10 myself :D

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 11:36

    Have just donated £10 myself :D

    Am doing the same :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 11:38

    I'll be a bit GMM and post the BBC article on the talks...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8049816.stm

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 11:38

    Am doing the same :)

    yay!

    Also noticed at the top Jules set up the stuff for jenson, that made me happier for some reason. Even though we knew last week Jules was still about :P

    Just noticed peter windsor just donated too!

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 11:41

    Just noticed peter windsor just donated too!

    Done.

    And Louise Goodman is on there too :)

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 11:41

    And David Tremayne gave loads.

    Grrr.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 11:42

    Am doing the same :)

    yay!

    Also noticed at the top Jules set up the stuff for jenson, that made me happier for some reason. Even though we knew last week Jules was still about :P

    Just noticed peter windsor just donated too!

    There's quite a few more names in there!

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 11:42

    There's quite a few more names in there!

    I know, I have no idea how I missed the people Christine just mentioned...

    I think it was Brundle's donation stunning me :P

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 11:43

    Grrr.

    That isn't a grr that he donated. That was just an impression. Oops.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 11:47

    That isn't a grr that he donated. That was just an impression. Oops.

    Hehe :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 11:57

    That isn't a grr that he donated. That was just an impression. Oops.

    Hehe :P

    Did he donate Grrr-ty pounds? :)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 11:59

    Hehehehe at Tweetstats..

    Your top five words: work, really, good, today, sidepodcast

    Try out your own! It's really freaked me out how much I say certain things at certain times, and my twitter seemed to go mad in April this year... you an try it at http://tweetstats.com/

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 12:01

    Looking at those who donated to Jenson. Here's an interesting name:

    Alex Hawkridge - former boss of Toleman, Senna's 1st F1 team.

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 12:03

    Your top five words: work, really, good, today, sidepodcast

    Mine: Your top five words: f1, time, awesome, good, sebring

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 12:04

    Mine: Your top five words: f1, time, awesome, good, sebring

    stop; f1 time! :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 12:19

    Any good f1 tweets today?

  • Alex Andronov15/05/2009 at 12:27

    Hi guys in Berlin. Was at Heathrow earlier but didn't see any of the F1 guys.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 12:28

    Hi guys in Berlin. Was at Heathrow earlier but didn't see any of the F1 guys.

    Why are you in Berlin?

  • Alex Andronov15/05/2009 at 12:30

    Why are you in Berlin?

    I like to keep you guessing :)

    Just on a long weekend away holiday with Katherine and some other friends.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 12:32

    Why are you in Berlin?

    I like to keep you guessing :)

    Just on a long weekend away holiday with Katherine and some other friends.

    Cool Stuff man!

  • me15/05/2009 at 12:33

    Hi guys in Berlin. Was at Heathrow earlier but didn't see any of the F1 guys.

    you're not supposed to be here.

  • Alex Andronov15/05/2009 at 12:34

    you're not supposed to be here.

    I'm really not. Katherine's having a quick nap so I've snuck on!

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 12:34

    Good afternoon all

    anyone seen this?

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75319

    Quite genius, it does make me laugh

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 12:35

    Quite genius, it does make me laugh

    Oh dear, they already messed it up, might as well keep going

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 12:35

    Good afternoon all

    anyone seen this?

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75319

    Quite genius, it does make me laugh

    Yeah I did.

    Is it just me, or are all the major motorsports series unravelling right now?

  • Alex Andronov15/05/2009 at 12:37

    I'm really not. Katherine's having a quick nap so I've snuck on!

    Oopps gotta go :)

  • me15/05/2009 at 12:37

    i haven't caught up with the comments, but has this been mentioned?

    "Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo, will miss Friday's crisis talks with Max Mosley after the death of his father."

    "The champions were represented instead by team boss Stefano Domenicali."

    presumably it won't make a massive difference to proceedings. but i'm also guessing steffi doesn't hold a lot of sway either.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 12:38

    i haven't caught up with the comments, but has this been mentioned?

    "Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo, will miss Friday's crisis talks with Max Mosley after the death of his father."

    "The champions were represented instead by team boss Stefano Domenicali."

    presumably i won't make a massive difference to proceedings. but i'm also guessing steffi doesn't hold a lot of sway either.

    What an awful week for those in power - max loses his son and Luca loses his dad :(

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 12:38

    presumably i won't make a massive difference to proceedings. but i'm also guessing steffi doesn't hold a lot of sway either.

    We like Dom better than Monty, don't we?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 12:40

    presumably i won't make a massive difference to proceedings. but i'm also guessing steffi doesn't hold a lot of sway either.

    We like Dom better than Monty, don't we?

    But Monty is the FOCA guy, isn't he?

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 12:40

    We like Dom better than Monty, don't we?

    Stefano smiles, so yes :P

    shame to hear what happened to Luca though, of course.

  • me15/05/2009 at 12:42

    Stefano smiles, so yes :P

    true, but he's also a bit whitmarshy, in that he appears to agree with everything in order to keep the peace.

    maybe not quite that bad.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 12:43

    true, but he's also a bit whitmarshy, in that he appears to agree with everything in order to keep the peace.

    I imagine Luca has given him specific instructions and you wouldn't want to go back and face him if you get it wrong, would you?

  • me15/05/2009 at 12:46

    I imagine Luca has given him specific instructions and you wouldn't want to go back and face him if you get it wrong, would you?

    true enough.

    i didn't realise so many teams were present. when did it change from a meeting between max and luca, that bernie crashed, into a full blown fota thing with the world's media camping outside heathrow?

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 12:49

    i didn't realise so many teams were present. when did it change from a meeting between max and luca, that bernie crashed, into a full blown fota thing with the world's media camping outside heathrow?

    Why is Heathrow suddenly the in vogue meeting place?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 12:50

    i didn't realise so many teams were present. when did it change from a meeting between max and luca, that bernie crashed, into a full blown fota thing with the world's media camping outside heathrow?

    Why is Heathrow suddenly the in vogue meeting place?

    Because it's big and being in an airport, it's easier to travel to?

  • me15/05/2009 at 12:51

    Why is Heathrow suddenly the in vogue meeting place?

    always was. although usually for the less "public" meetings.

    the reason is that all the team principles own private jets.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 12:53

    always was. although usually for the less "public" meetings.

    Ah, I figured I just wasn't paying attention previously.

    Meeting at the airport makes it seem much more impromptu and urgent.

  • me15/05/2009 at 12:53

    Because it's big and being in an airport, it's easier to travel to?

    not only that though, it's easier to sneak in and out of a busy airport.

    normally the meetings tend to be more undercover than this one, so people can sneak in and out via a multitude of routes.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 13:00

    presumably it won’t make a massive difference to proceedings. but i’m also guessing steffi doesn’t hold a lot of sway either.

    don't be surprised if LDM joined them by phone, anyway.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 13:02

    I've just been to the corner shop (Morrisons)....

    it's SidepodEcclesCake time :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 13:03

    I've just been to the corner shop (Morrisons)....

    it's SidepodEcclesCake time :D

    That's a rather large corner!

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 13:06

    That's a rather large corner!

    I swear there aren't that many older people where live, but they seem to all swarm out during the day and converge on morrisons coffee shop...

  • me15/05/2009 at 13:21

    That's a rather large corner!

    :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 13:28

    sidepodspace update

    The second spacewalk of the Hubble servicing mission is underway. Not sure when it started but it still has a few hours to run

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 13:46

    I keep mentioning this. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought anything the F1 team receives from external sources (even from their A1GP effort) will still be credited as part of their expenses?

    What they receive is completely irrelevant. What they spend on their F1 program is all that counts. So long as they stick to the budget they can raise $10 billion dollars.

  • LadySnowcat15/05/2009 at 13:46

    i haven’t caught up with the comments, but has this been mentioned?

    “Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo, will miss Friday’s crisis talks with Max Mosley after the death of his father.”

    “The champions were represented instead by team boss Stefano Domenicali.”

    presumably it won’t make a massive difference to proceedings. but i’m also guessing steffi doesn’t hold a lot of sway either.

    Sorry but I think this makes a huge difference...

    Sadly the meeting was due to happen in Spain but didn't due to Max's bereavement and now we have Luca having personal reasons to stay away from the revised date....

    Stephano will not be able to do much other than take notes...

    I can't see much happening today... but I hope I am wrong...

  • the Blue Orange Lion15/05/2009 at 13:47

    Hey, people, did you notice http://grandprixdiary.com (can't post links here - comment ends up in moderation but seems to have worked this time) is back and it features f1minute. I think team and driver description is worth reading. Also check out Australian and Malaysian GP news. I was rolling on the floor laughing.

    Maybe you noticed or talked about it before but I think this website deserves a place in the weblinks section here.

    "Melbourne, Saturday: David Coulthard is reported to be bitterly disappointed following Sir Richard Branson becoming the first man to swear on the BBC’s Formula One coverage.

    DC had been waiting for the right moment to drop in a naughty word but at 2:12 hours 34.098 seconds Branson popped in a ‘bastard’ leaving DC crestfallen.

    Coulthard feels he is ready to bounce back and it is hoped his bad language form will return in time for the European season."

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 13:47

    Hey - Bernie with no glasses on!

    The blimd leading the blind

  • LadySnowcat15/05/2009 at 13:52

    Stephano will not be able to do much other than take notes…

    Assuming he doesn't run out of paper or ink of course...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 13:53

    Stephano will not be able to do much other than take notes…

    That might be the point of sending him?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 14:01

    What they receive is completely irrelevant. What they spend on their F1 program is all that counts. So long as they stick to the budget they can raise $10 billion dollars.

    Really? I swear I read that somewhere in the rules... Hmmm.

    Sadly the meeting was due to happen in Spain but didn’t due to Max’s bereavement and now we have Luca having personal reasons to stay away from the revised date….

    The deadline is too close for LDM to skip it. I think he's attending it by phone.

    That might be the point of sending him?

    To take notes? I thought this was supposed to get settled today??

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 14:05

    Really? I swear I read that somewhere in the rules... Hmmm.

    They are allowed to make profits and any dividend they pay based on those profits are not part of the cap. So they could pay their staff $1each in salary then pay them a dividend of $1million each at the end of the year and it doesn't count as part of their budget

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 14:06

    To take notes? I thought this was supposed to get settled today??

    Nothing is going to get settled today unless Max capitulates. My guess is this will run for a while yet.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/05/2009 at 14:06

    Really? I swear I read that somewhere in the rules... Hmmm.

    They are allowed to make profits and any dividend they pay based on those profits are not part of the cap. So they could pay their staff $1each in salary then pay them a dividend of $1million each at the end of the year and it doesn't count as part of their budget

    There's going to be some super creative accounting if this budget cap happens!

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 14:09

    There's a new video up where Murray answeres questions here

  • me15/05/2009 at 14:10

    To take notes? I thought this was supposed to get settled today??

    no chance.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 14:13

    There's going to be some super creative accounting if this budget cap happens!

    The budget cap can never happen. If it did the real preice of things would be ignored and FIA estimated orices would be used. The FIA aims to have final accounts two to three months after the end off the season. These are the people who would penalise cars using cool fuel in Brazil because it was unfair to change the champion after the end of the event even when the evidence was black and white. Given the inevitable delays and complexities we could see someone be crowned world champion only to lose it in February or part way through the following season after appeals.

    Alianora has read up on this as usual and she says that some ofthe info the FIA requires the companies in certain countries cannot leagally give them.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 14:42

    no chance.

    does this mean we'll be talking about this all weekend in monaco? that can't be good...

  • me15/05/2009 at 14:49

    does this mean we'll be talking about this all weekend in monaco? that can't be good...

    yup.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 14:59

    It seems like the ridiculous Rome track is for real. Just what F1 needs another lunatic facist.

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21473.html

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 15:00

    sidepodecclescakes finished.

    they are AMAZING

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:01

    The pictures from today's spacewalk are about th best we have ever had from space apart from inside the ISS. Shame we keep losing them due to lack of coverage.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:02

    sidepodecclescakes finished.

    they are AMAZING

    Must be good. It has taken you 2 hours to eat it

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 15:03

    Must be good. It has taken you 2 hours to eat it

    nonono, i went to the shop to get the ingredients. i made them myself :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:04

    nonono, i went to the shop to get the ingredients. i made them myself :D

    We have a secnd sidepodbaker

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 15:05

    We have a secnd sidepodbaker

    im a little bit addicted to baking at the moment (did i just say that?!) i made scones last week, cookies the week before...

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 15:15

    im a little bit addicted to baking at the moment (did i just say that?!) i made scones last week, cookies the week before...

    Mmmmmmmm cookies. Now I want to do some baking!

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 15:21

    Mmmmmmmm cookies. Now I want to do some baking!

    they were yummmy

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:22

    How did we go from being a bunch of sleep deprived motor racing addicts to swapping recipes and live commenting the Eurovision song contest?

    The odd thing is that even though there are more women here than on the average F1 site it is all men who are doing these things. We need a big controversial story to break out of today's talks to get us back on track.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:22

    Afternoon all. The rain poured down today as we stood outside at Segedunum, making notes in the rain is hard.

  • toxicfusion15/05/2009 at 15:23

    Just watching "The Making of Brawn GP" video over on ITV-F1, the sponsor message before hand from Honda.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:23

    How did we go from being a bunch of sleep deprived motor racing addicts to swapping recipes and live commenting the Eurovision song contest?

    Eurovision. Now thats damn awesome

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:24

    The odd thing is that even though there are more women here than on the average F1 site it is all men who are doing these things. We need a big controversial story to break out of today's talks to get us back on track.

    Based on what you said earlier, I think we'll be talking about recipes and Eurovision for a while... ;)

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 15:24

    Just watching "The Making of Brawn GP" video over on ITV-F1, the sponsor message before hand from Honda.

    how irronic

  • toxicfusion15/05/2009 at 15:27

    Just watching "The Making of Brawn GP" video over on ITV-F1, the sponsor message before hand from Honda.

    how irronic

    Yep, the video essentially was promoting the relationship between BrawnGP and Mercedes.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:35

    HELLO!

    Ecclestone claims a deal has been reached with FOTA including the removal of two-tier regulations. Details to follow.

    http://twitter.com/f1scoop/status/1807033820

  • toxicfusion15/05/2009 at 15:36

    Ecclestone claims a deal has been reached with FOTA including the removal of two-tier regulations. Details to follow.

    Lets hope so :D

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:37

    http://twitter.com/f1scoop/status/1807033820

    On SkySportsNews as well now

    'Max Mosley says there has been no comprimise on the 40 million budget cap'

    Err

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:37

    And earlier...

    Max Mosely has invited all #F1 drivers to lunch in Monaco next Friday - an attempt to get them onside against FOTA?

    http://twitter.com/f1scoop/status/1804201503

    But if a deal has indeed been reached, it weakens Max's hand.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:37

    There's that oddball ASCII character again... How odd...

    It looks like a date from a calendar

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:38

    Ferrari also seeking court injunction in France to stop the thing happening

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:38

    Err

    They're not exclusive to each other. They may both be right. I still think we'll end up with a 40M budget cap - the question is - when does it start? And how will it be implemented?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:38

    Ferrari also seeking court injunction in France to stop the thing happening

    Erm... what??

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:40

    Ladies and gents, welcome to the Spin Zone.

    It's up to us to figure out who's telling what, and which of it is true...

  • toxicfusion15/05/2009 at 15:40

    I think we need to wait for offical reports rather than twitter updates, but lets hope they have come to some sort of compromise.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:40

    Erm... what??

    From SSN ticker bar

    'Ferrari seek court injunction to stop f1 2010 rule change'

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:41

    I think we need to wait for offical reports rather than twitter updates, but lets hope they have come to some sort of compromise.

    That's true, but some of these are coming from Sky Sports.

    Then again, they're not the most reliable of sources...

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:41

    'Ferrari seek court injunction to stop f1 2010 rule change'

    Did this happen BEFORE or AFTER the negotiations? That would be key here.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:42

    Then again, they're not the most reliable of sources...

    It's a news network, they'll only wanting to be telling the truth here

    Did this happen BEFORE or AFTER the negotiations? That would be key here.

    Pass, all that has been said

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 15:43

    It's a news network, they'll only wanting to be telling the truth here

    :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:43

    Nothing on Reuters yet

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:43

    It's a news network, they'll only wanting to be telling the truth here

    I think Sky Sports messed it up during the Ferrari announcement on Tuesday. Which is why the way they report news is a bit questionable.

  • toxicfusion15/05/2009 at 15:43

    Has the meeting even finished?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:44

    'Ferrari seek court injunction to stop f1 2010 rule change'

    Someone is saying Max was the one who announced this. Not sure if this is true, though.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:44

    Nothing on Joe's or James Akken's blogs

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:44

    Has the meeting even finished?

    Apparently, yes.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:44

    Allen

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:44

    Autosport - bad news, people:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75325

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:45

    Does anyone know where the meeting was. Webcams?

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:45

    Someone is saying Max was the one who announced this. Not sure if this is true, though.

    Max was the one about it not changing. I don't know about that one, plus why would he say that?

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 15:45

    Autosport - bad news, people:

    wow. the fia not wanting to change their position on something?! theres a change

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 15:45

    Autosport - bad news, people:

    ooh yay just what we wanted.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:46

    Autosport - bad news, people:

    Exactly as expected then. Max is playing hardball. Expect more new team announcements over the weekend. David Richards and Agag I guess

  • me15/05/2009 at 15:46

    Autosport - bad news, people:

    "Furthermore, it emerged during the meeting that Ferrari has lodged legal action in the French courts to block the 2010 rules - claiming their introduction was a breach of a technical veto they had"

    that's good news, isn't it?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:47

    Exactly as expected then. Max is playing hardball. Expect more new team announcements over the weekend. David Richards and Agag I guess

    They're not exactly Ferrari, are they?

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 15:47

    that's good news, isn't it?

    So good they couldn't find the full stop?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:47

    that's good news, isn't it?

    we don't want this to go to the civil courts. we've never gone that far before. ever.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 15:47

    Huh?

    From twitter

    RT @f1scoop: Ecclestone claims a deal has been reached with FOTA including the removal of two-tier regulations. Details to follow. #F1

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:47

    that's good news, isn't it?

    See, Sky Sports know what they are talking about here.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:48

    Hopefully FOTA will stick together and say no two tier and no budget cap.

    Shows how crooked the sport is when one team has a veto. But there is no bias to Ferrari

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:49

    They're not exactly Ferrari, are they?

    Asolutely not but Max will spin it that he can produce a full grid and every time one team quits a new one appears so no change.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:50

    Something's not right here.

    If Ferrari are claiming that no rules change means no Ferrari in F1 2010, why are they applying for an injunction on the 2010 rules? Surely, they'd be pulling out, so there's no need to stop the FIA from applying those rules?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:51

    Asolutely not but Max will spin it that he can produce a full grid and every time one team quits a new one appears so no change.

    I'd rather see a 20-car grid with Ferrari, BMW, Renault, McLaren on it than a 26-car grid of newbies...

  • me15/05/2009 at 15:52

    If Ferrari are claiming that no rules change means no Ferrari in F1 2010, why are they applying for an injunction on the 2010 rules? Surely, they'd be pulling out, so there's no need to stop the FIA from applying those rules?

    eh? they're not saying that.

    they're saying if the 2010 rules remain as currently written, then no dice, they're going home.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:52

    Something's not right here.

    If Ferrari are claiming that no rules change means no Ferrari in F1 2010, why are they applying for an injunction on the 2010 rules? Surely, they'd be pulling out, so there's no need to stop the FIA from applying those rules?

    No-one is pulling out. Ferrari will be there in 2010. What there position is is that they want to race in 2010 under agreed rules. Should the agreed rules be changed they will quit.

  • me15/05/2009 at 15:52

    I'd rather see a 20-car grid with Ferrari, BMW, Renault, McLaren on it than a 26-car grid of newbies...

    agreed.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:53

    they're saying if the 2010 rules remain as currently written, then no dice, they're going home.

    so why are they applying for an injunction?

  • me15/05/2009 at 15:53

    so why are they applying for an injunction?

    because max is insisting on forcing through his 2010 rules.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:53

    so why are they applying for an injunction?

    To stop the introduction of the two tier system and the budget cap so that they can race in 2010 under 2009 rules

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:54

    How come we can discuss this before most of the news sites even have the story up?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:55

    To stop the introduction of the two tier system and the budget cap so that they can race in 2010 under 2009 rules

    that makes sense to me. what doesn't make sense is that ferrari didn't threaten to sue, they threatened to quit. politically, it makes sense, but logically, it doesn't. if ferrari want to quit, they can quit without suing...

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:55

    How come we can discuss this before most of the news sites even have the story up?

    autosport has it, so it's as good as true.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 15:56

    How come we can discuss this before most of the news sites even have the story up?

    We have agents around the world.

    Plus an access to twitter and Sky

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:56

    I love this tweet from F1Scoop:

    Bernie clearly should have stayed until the end of the FOTA meeting

  • me15/05/2009 at 15:56

    How come we can discuss this before most of the news sites even have the story up?

    we're the best :)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:56

    that makes sense to me. what doesn't make sense is that ferrari didn't threaten to sue, they threatened to quit. politically, it makes sense, but logically, it doesn't. if ferrari want to quit, they can quit without suing...

    They want to race but only under certain rules. They are suing to force Max into giving them the rules they want. If they lose they quit. Just more hard ball.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:57

    They want to race but only under certain rules. They are suing to force Max into giving them the rules they want. If they lose they quit. Just more hard ball.

    That makes sense. But I would've thought they'd threaten to sue and quit, not just quit...

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:57

    autosport has it, so it's as good as true.

    It just seems off that I can bounce round half a dozen sites and find no comment whatever. Bunch of part timers. They need to be working sidepodcast hours

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 15:58

    The era of FIArrari seems so long ago, doesn't it?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 15:59

    That makes sense. But I would've thought they'd threaten to sue and quit, not just quit...

    I guess they thought that threatening to quit would have the desired effect. When that didn't work as it always has in the past they threaten court action.

  • me15/05/2009 at 15:59

    That makes sense. But I would've thought they'd threaten to sue and quit, not just quit...

    eh? they've threatened to quit and started legal proceedings.

  • me15/05/2009 at 15:59

    I guess they thought that threatening to quit would have the desired effect. When that didn't work as it always has in the past they threaten court action.

    agreed.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:00

    The era of FIArrari seems so long ago, doesn't it?

    I am sure the current discord between Ferrari and the giverning body of F1 is only temporary

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:00

    eh? they've threatened to quit and started legal proceedings.

    they didn't mention anything about suing last Tuesday. only quitting.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:00

    I am sure the current discord between Ferrari and the giverning body of F1 is only temporary

    i wonder if jean todt isn't waiting in the wings, for someone to get the big heave-ho.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:00

    I am sure the current discord between Ferrari and the giverning body of F1 is only temporary

    it'll be there as long as max is there. if todt does replace max, though...

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:01

    i wonder if jean todt isn't waiting in the wings, for someone to get the big heave-ho.

    heh. Mr C and I were thinking the same thing.

    But at this point, whose side would Todt be on?

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:01

    they didn't mention anything about suing last Tuesday. only quitting.

    yeah they did. luca i think said it in his letter to max.

    this isn't news.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:01

    But at this point, whose side would Todt be on?

    ferrari.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:01

    If indeed that technical veto exists in Ferrari's contract with Bernie/Max, they will get the injunction.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:02

    this isn't news.

    how come no one has mentioned it then...?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:02

    they didn't mention anything about suing last Tuesday. only quitting.

    Because they thought that threatening to quit would cause Max to roll over as he always has before. I don't think it had occurred to them that he would call their bluff

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:02

    ferrari.

    but i thought todt was max's anointed successor?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:02

    Because they thought that threatening to quit would cause Max to roll over as he always has before. I don't think it had occurred to them that he would call their bluff

    they're calling each other's bluffs, aren't they?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:03

    i wonder if jean todt isn't waiting in the wings, for someone to get the big heave-ho.

    He is Max's choice of successor. I think his time has gone.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:03

    If indeed that technical veto exists in Ferrari's contract with Bernie/Max, they will get the injunction.

    it does exist. however max is introducing a two-tier system to get around the veto.

    ferrari can still enter next years championship under the old rules... they'll just get beaten by the cheapo teams.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:04

    but i thought todt was max's anointed successor?

    He was but I think the time for the change was missed and now he has no chance. It had to happen before the vote of confidence.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:04

    it does exist. however max is introducing a two-tier system to get around the veto.

    this will be interesting. ferrari will be arguing that even the addition of a rule should be subject to their veto, even if it hasn't replaced any old ones.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:04

    they're calling each other's bluffs, aren't they?

    Standard hard ball. Nothing to worry about.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:05

    He was but I think the time for the change was missed and now he has no chance. It had to happen before the vote of confidence.

    now that todt is in the cold, will FOTA come back and take him in?

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:05

    He was but I think the time for the change was missed and now he has no chance. It had to happen before the vote of confidence.

    i'm not so sure.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:05

    Standard hard ball. Nothing to worry about.

    But if the case is already in court? There is no precedent to this.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:05

    this will be interesting. ferrari will be arguing that even the addition of a rule should be subject to their veto, even if it hasn't replaced any old ones.

    I can't wait to hear Ferrari arguing that the change is outwith the spirit of the rule

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:06

    now that todt is in the cold, will FOTA come back and take him in?

    No

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:06

    But if the case is already in court? There is no precedent to this.

    Only Alianora could answer that.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:07

    I can't wait to hear Ferrari arguing that the change is outwith the spirit of the rule

    Oh, not this again...

    It'll boil down to how that contract was worded. But I think Ferrari can argue that ADDING a rule is still subject to their veto, even if it isn't REPLACING any old ones.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:07

    I can't wait to hear Ferrari arguing that the change is outwith the spirit of the rule

    :D

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:07

    No

    So at this point, who can they get to lead a coup within the FIA against Max?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:07

    I think Bernie will have trouble putting another puppet in the Place de la Concorde so it make more sense for him to abandon the FIA and set up a new series with the teams

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:08

    So at this point, who can they get to lead a coup within the FIA against Max?

    i still think todt could do it. he doesn't have to be max's mate to get in. there just has to be enough people willing to vote against max.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:08

    I think Bernie will have trouble putting another puppet in the Place de la Concorde so it make more sense for him to abandon the FIA and set up a new series with the teams

    Even if Flavio already said that that isn't their intention?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:09

    So at this point, who can they get to lead a coup within the FIA against Max?

    My bet is Nick Craw. He seemed to be the leader of the group of clubs who threatened to set up their own organisation. Since they stayed and have stayed quiet you have to assume they have been planning a campaign since then.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:09

    i still think todt could do it. he doesn't have to be max's mate to get in. there just has to be enough people willing to vote against max.

    I can't see anyone from the sport side getting it

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:09

    there just has to be enough people willing to vote against max.

    and there lies the problem. they have to convince those people that max is causing too much trouble. but if max is always sending them "funds" for their projects, how the heck do you convince them?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:10

    Even if Flavio already said that that isn't their intention?

    Flavio just follows Bernie

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:10

    My bet is Nick Craw. He seemed to be the leader of the group of clubs who threatened to set up their own organisation. Since they stayed and have stayed quiet you have to assume they have been planning a campaign since then.

    That sounds interesting... isn't he from the AAA?

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:10

    and there lies the problem. they have to convince those people that max is causing too much trouble. but if max is always sending them "funds" for their projects, how the heck do you convince them?

    easy. he has to overstep the line. and maybe he just has.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:10

    Flavio just follows Bernie

    That's true. But then, you think it'll be Bernie telling the teams to breakaway, rather than the teams convincing Bernie to join them?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:10

    That sounds interesting... isn't he from the AAA?

    Something like that AAA or Accuss or similar

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:11

    easy. he has to overstep the line. and maybe he just has.

    the member federations don't care for F1 - they care for their pet projects. this works like a government - you scratch my back, i scratch yours.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:11

    That's true. But then, you think it'll be Bernie telling the teams to breakaway, rather than the teams convincing Bernie to join them?

    I would not be surprised if Bernie convinced Max to introduce the budget cap to trigger all of this

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:12

    That's true. But then, you think it'll be Bernie telling the teams to breakaway, rather than the teams convincing Bernie to join them?

    bernie is weakened by fota. he's not in a position to dictate. he'll follow the winners.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:12

    I would not be surprised if Bernie convinced Max to introduce the budget cap to trigger all of this

    nah. max has wanted this forever. the crunch has offered him the slimmest of opportunities.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:12

    I would not be surprised if Bernie convinced Max to introduce the budget cap to trigger all of this

    Very good point there... But that would be so naughty and brilliant all at the same time.

    The newest tag on Twitter: #maxout

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:14

    The newest tag on Twitter: #maxout

    that's an excellent tag.

    have you got a twitter account journeyer?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:15

    have you got a twitter account journeyer?

    nope - i just keep an eye on people who do. :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:16

    bernie is weakened by fota. he's not in a position to dictate. he'll follow the winners.

    I am only suggesting that rhe recognised the strength of FOTA and created a situation so that they would be forced to sign a longer FIA contract or set up their own championship too quickly for them to haave contracts in place. That way he can buy out CVC at a low price and take a smaller percentage than he had before but have a business he can sell to another mu when the economy picks up.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:16

    nope - i just keep an eye on people who do. :D

    maybe now is the time?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:17

    maybe now is the time?

    maybe it is. i'll have a think about it. :)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:19

    I have to leave for a couple of hours. Can someone clock me back in in half an hour so that the management don't notice how long I have been away for?

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:20

    I have to leave for a couple of hours. Can someone clock me back in in half an hour so that the management don't notice how long I have been away for?

    course. consider it done.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 16:20

    From #maxout it looks like Alianora has got her twitter working.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:21

    joe makes a fine point:

    "This will cause considerable trouble for the new teams as they need to know whether or not they will be granted entries in the next few weeks in order to decide whether or not to go ahead with their plans."

    which is exactly what killed dave richards prodrive entry two years ago.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:22

    From #maxout it looks like Alianora has got her twitter working.

    hehe :)

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:25

    btw, the hotel the hosted the meeting was the Sofitel Hotel.

    nice.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:38

    which is exactly what killed dave richards prodrive entry two years ago.

    does that mean that ferrari's move, whether they win or lose the case, would mean max would lose either way, anyway?

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:38

    autosport now updated. apparently the teams still don't agree with bernie on commercial matters. presumably that's why he left the meeting early.

    max isn't budging and the teams will hole themselves away for further discussion. wonder how long that meeting will be?

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 16:38

    For a distraction, someone's put a picture of the Force India in the TechEDin conference at Hyderabad on Flickr.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:39

    does that mean that ferrari's move, whether they win or lose the case, would mean max would lose either way, anyway?

    not sure. he says:

    "During the meeting it became apparent that Ferrari has made an application to the French courts, and I don't know the details, but it is to apply for an injunction to stop us doing what we want to do,""

    i would assume that a court case would create enough doubt to put new teams off of f1 for at least 12 months.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:40

    For a distraction, someone's put a picture of the Force India in the TechEDin conference at Hyderabad on Flickr.

    damn, their new livery is so much better.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:41

    i would assume that a court case would create enough doubt to put new teams off of f1 for at least 12 months.

    which would mean that even if they lose, a lack of new teams would mean all of FOTA can enter uncapped and leave Max's regs utterly useless.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:41

    but with FOTA and Bernie disagreeing on commercial matters, does that mean we have a 3-way fight going on here?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:44

    max isn't budging and the teams will hole themselves away for further discussion. wonder how long that meeting will be?

    without LDM, it'll be a while.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:44

    which would mean that even if they lose, a lack of new teams would mean all of FOTA can enter uncapped and leave Max's regs utterly useless.

    yup. fota / ferrari hold all of the cards.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:45

    but with FOTA and Bernie disagreeing on commercial matters, does that mean we have a 3-way fight going on here?

    we do. bernie is in the weakest position, followed by max.

    so long as fota remain united, they can do what they like.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:46

    so long as fota remain united, they can do what they like.

    easier said than done, though. i'm sure max tried to say whatever he can to divide them. and with no LDM, he knew he had a shot.

  • me15/05/2009 at 16:50

    easier said than done, though. i'm sure max tried to say whatever he can to divide them. and with no LDM, he knew he had a shot.

    all the teams know that two-tier is a road to nowhere. until he offers something more realistic, they're not going to budge.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:53

    all the teams know that two-tier is a road to nowhere. until he offers something more realistic, they're not going to budge.

    the danger here is that some agree with max on the cap. if push comes to shove, will they really stay loyal to FOTA? that's the 40-million pound question.

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 16:55

    So Max dug his heels in and is prepared to see a F1 season with No BMW, Ferrari, Red Bull, Toro Rosso and Renault.

    They have still got 2 weeks to apply for entry. Attempting to call their bluff?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:57

    They have still got 2 weeks to apply for entry. Attempting to call their bluff?

    Ferrari have filed an injunction in France. If the courts force Max to hold his horses, FOTA will have an automatic win.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 16:58

    Ferrari have filed an injunction in France. If the courts force Max to hold his horses, FOTA will have an automatic win.

    what exactly were ferrari promised?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 16:59

    what exactly were ferrari promised?

    that they'd have a veto power over new rules introduced by the FIA.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 17:00

    that they'd have a veto power over new rules introduced by the FIA.

    WOW that was error of judgement on fia's part

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:00

    Max is deluded.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75326

    "I don't think it will happen," said Mosley when asked by AUTOSPORT if he was worried about a number of big teams leaving F1. "There is this suggestion that there is some sort of crisis, but I don't think there is a crisis.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:01

    WOW that was error of judgement on fia's part

    but it'll all boil down to how that was worded in the contract.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:04

    From Joe:

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/now-things-are-getting-out-of-control/

  • me15/05/2009 at 17:06

    From Joe:

    was just reading that. interesting paragraph:

    "We hear that Mosley was relatively conciliatory in the course of the meeting, saying that he would raise the budget cap and introduce “a glide path” if it was deemed necessary, but he was then faced with Ferrari and Toyota both insisting that the 2010 technical regulations be cancelled in their entirety because the FIA had not followed the procedures necessary."

    fota 1, fia 0

  • me15/05/2009 at 17:07

    WOW that was error of judgement on fia's part

    they needed ferrari on board though. the gpma were serious about a breakaway series.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 17:07

    "We hear that Mosley was relatively conciliatory in the course of the meeting, saying that he would raise the budget cap and introduce “a glide path” if it was deemed necessary, but he was then faced with Ferrari and Toyota both insisting that the 2010 technical regulations be cancelled in their entirety because the FIA had not followed the procedures necessary."

    Interesting...

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:07

    fota 1, fia 0

    that was a shocking paragraph to read, to be honest. i'd agree with that score. and if joe is right, he thinks ferrari may win their case in paris. would make it 2-0 then.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:08

    they needed ferrari on board though. the gpma were serious about a breakaway series.

    how ironic, no? it saved them then, but it may kill them now.

  • me15/05/2009 at 17:10

    that was a shocking paragraph to read, to be honest. i'd agree with that score. and if joe is right, he thinks ferrari may win their case in paris. would make it 2-0 then.

    seconded.

    this looks like checkmate for max. what should be the teams next move?

  • me15/05/2009 at 17:11

    how ironic, no? it saved them then, but it may kill them now.

    it'll only kill them because max went too far. if he'd have kept quiet, none of this need have happened.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:11

    this looks like checkmate for max. what should be the teams next move?

    as things stand? stay together and hang on tight - it's gonna be a VERY bumpy ride.

    a good short-term move would be to get to the drivers before max does next week. get them to boycott the lunch, if need be.

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:12

    irony:

    april - sidepodcast side AGAINST tozzi and ferrari, wanting brawn diffusers banned.

    may - sidepodcast side WITH tozzi and ferrari, wanting 2010 rules stopped.

  • me15/05/2009 at 17:17

    april - sidepodcast side AGAINST tozzi and ferrari, wanting brawn diffusers banned.

    agreed. ferrari missed an opportunity.

    may - sidepodcast side WITH tozzi and ferrari, wanting 2010 rules stopped.

    agreed. the proposed rules suck.

    that isn't irony? not in the slightest. that just shows good sense, no?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:19

    that isn't irony? not in the slightest. that just shows good sense, no?

    but who'd have thought EVERYONE would side WITH Ferrari? that hasn't happened since... forever!

    a team like ferrari doesn't turn from bad-guy to good-guy in weeks. that's unprecedented!

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 17:20

    a team like ferrari doesn't turn from bad-guy to good-guy in weeks. that's unprecedented!

    This season is so surreal. People such as myself actually like toyota as well now, what's that all about!

    :P

  • Trpzip215/05/2009 at 17:21

    irony:

    april - sidepodcast side AGAINST tozzi and ferrari, wanting brawn diffusers banned.

    may - sidepodcast side WITH tozzi and ferrari, wanting 2010 rules stopped.

    How quickly things change :)

  • Rich15/05/2009 at 17:24

    this looks like checkmate for max. what should be the teams next move?

    I think Max and the FIA are going to have to step down from their position. The way I see it Ferrari particularly (with Toyota and the rest of the teams) will win out. By bringing procedures against the FIA there is little left to negotiate. Max has probably already struck deals with teams about the caps and they will probably not be entering in 2010. I think FIA have been incredibly un-democratic in trying to push these through.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 17:24

    FakeBernie - Yes, there has been some progress. It has been decided that we won’t all be required to stand in a circle, hold hands, and sing “Kumbaya.”

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 17:25

    parting shot: in 2005, we had indy-gate. we thought that was the darkest day in F1's history.

    in 2007, we had spy-gate. that was the worst scandal F1 ever went through.

    those days will seem like a Sunday drive in the countryside compared to 2009 and cap-gate.

    good night, everyone.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 17:26

    FakeBernie - Yes, there has been some progress. It has been decided that we won’t all be required to stand in a circle, hold hands, and sing “Kumbaya.”

    Hehe :)

  • me15/05/2009 at 17:29

    but who'd have thought EVERYONE would side WITH Ferrari? that hasn't happened since... forever!

    that's because their most often wrong ;)

  • me15/05/2009 at 17:30

    good night, everyone.

    night sir.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 17:31

    good night, everyone.

    night!

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 17:31

    good night, everyone.

    goodnight

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 17:34

    irony:

    april - sidepodcast side AGAINST tozzi and ferrari, wanting brawn diffusers banned.

    may - sidepodcast side WITH tozzi and ferrari, wanting 2010 rules stopped.

    I wanted the diffusers banned - and the 2010 rules changed

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 17:34

    d'oh... look what 2009 has done to me. there's a muse song where one of the lines is 'it fuels the lies, it feeds the curse', and i've just typed it out 'it fuels the lies, it speeds the KERS'...

  • Mattw15/05/2009 at 18:02

    but who’d have thought EVERYONE would side WITH Ferrari? that hasn’t happened since… forever!

    Does everyone side with Ferrari? We have not heard what Williams, Brawn and Force India think.

    If the Budget cap is defeated - I wonder how many teams this will forced out of F1 (out of business) by this? How many jobs will this cost?

    People tend to forget that sponsorship is not easy to find at the moment - and Williams, Brawn and Renault are all needing to find title sponsors for next year.

    Max has done many crazy things in the past, but trying to inject some financial sense into F1 is in essence a good thing. Clearly the current 2010 rules need alot of work. It would be better if the teams could work with the FIA to make it work, rather than this petty posturing.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 18:11

    Evening all. I've had a really good day today and I feel really good too :D

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 18:14

    These comments seem to be loading in segments every 40 seconds for me.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 18:16

    These comments seem to be loading in segments every 40 seconds for me.

    That's what the live comments do?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 18:18

    Yup, looks like the comments are loading up in batches of 20. I can't see you responses yet, so I'll sit tight and wait! :P

  • me15/05/2009 at 18:20

    These comments seem to be loading in segments every 40 seconds for me.

    That's what the live comments do?

    yes. by design.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 18:21

    Evening all. I've had a really good day today and I feel really good too :D

    evening scott, nice to hear you're good :)

  • me15/05/2009 at 18:24

    Max has done many crazy things in the past, but trying to inject some financial sense into F1 is in essence a good thing. Clearly the current 2010 rules need alot of work. It would be better if the teams could work with the FIA to make it work, rather than this petty posturing.

    market forces are driving down expenditure and fota are working to reduce costs. they're doing it methodically and without fuss. they're not garnering any headlines as a result.

    what max is suggesting is pure fallacy. his ideas are far more likely to force the exit of f1 teams and the loss of numerous jobs, than any amount of 'posturing' the teams might be doing right now.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 18:26

    That's what the live comments do?

    No, what I meant was - all the comments so far didn't load up all at once. They were all loading up in batches of 20. Doesn't matter now, I've caught up :P

  • me15/05/2009 at 18:27

    No, what I meant was - all the comments so far didn't load up all at once. They were all loading up in batches of 20. Doesn't matter now, I've caught up :P

    yes. that's by design. always has been the way.

    it stops mobile device being overloaded with data and locking up.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 18:29

    yes. that's by design. always has been the way.

    Strange. Every time I've loaded up the LCLT before, all the comments so far before I post anything have loaded up altogether, never like that before.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 18:30

    What confuses/annoys me is that we have one figure head in bernie saying the teams all agree on the tier, that a deal has been set, that the cap will remain and be sorted out, then we have another figurehead in max saying say noone had agreed, that they won't compromise, that it's not a crisis, etc...

    I think this is what frustrates me so much as a fan, we don't get consistent ruling, we don't get the god honest truth from a united standpoint, and we don't get the opportunity to express what we as fans want from the sport and what the teams themselves would like should the almighty rulres in the FIA not be so arrogant to simply dismiss the ideas for their own personal feelings about budget caps and tiers and allsorts. bah.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 18:31

    we do. bernie is in the weakest position, followed by max.

    I think Max's position is far weaker than Bernie's. Bernie is in a position to provide a new championship with media and cicuit contracts which instantly gives them a viable championship

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 18:33

    Strange. Every time I’ve loaded up the LCLT before, all the comments so far before I post anything have loaded up altogether, never like that before.

    That might not make sense, actually. Basically what happened is I loaded up the LCLT and there were no comments in today's daily thread. Then after a couple of minutes, the first 20 comments of the thread loaded up and then the next 20 and so on until I could see the latest comments. The comments I posted while I was waiting I couldn't see because I was waiting for the other ones to catch up and load.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 18:36

    those days will seem like a Sunday drive in the countryside compared to 2009 and cap-gate.

    Have I been spending too much time here when Iread cap-gate as cog-gate

  • me15/05/2009 at 18:44

    That might not make sense, actually. Basically what happened is I loaded up the LCLT and there were no comments in today's daily thread. Then after a couple of minutes, the first 20 comments of the thread loaded up and then the next 20 and so on until I could see the latest comments. The comments I posted while I was waiting I couldn't see because I was waiting for the other ones to catch up and load.

    this happened in lclt?

    that's not right at all. what you're describing is how doohickey has always worked. hmmm.

  • me15/05/2009 at 18:45

    I think Max's position is far weaker than Bernie's. Bernie is in a position to provide a new championship with media and cicuit contracts which instantly gives them a viable championship

    yeah, that's true. but it's going to cost him a lot more than it used too. and more than he wants to pay. but i agree, max is in up to his neck and beyond.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 18:48

    this happened in lclt?

    I tried to use the lclt to catch up on the comments I missed and couldn't get comments to load for today's daily thread. The comments for all other threads loaded instantly. I gave up after 3 or 4 attempts and used ye olde comments.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 18:49

    I tried to use the lclt to catch up on the comments I missed and couldn't get comments to load for today's daily thread. The comments for all other threads loaded instantly. I gave up after 3 or 4 attempts and used ye olde comments.

    There was a dodgy character posted today somewhere

  • me15/05/2009 at 18:49

    I tried to use the lclt to catch up on the comments I missed and couldn't get comments to load for today's daily thread. The comments for all other threads loaded instantly. I gave up after 3 or 4 attempts and used ye olde comments.

    must be a dodgy character. methinks we may have to disable desktop doohickey temporarily. no time to fix and it's causing more problems than it's solving.

  • me15/05/2009 at 18:49

    There was a dodgy character posted today somewhere

    i didn't see it. will go look now.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 18:52

    The dodgy character appears in comment 197 and is quoted in 198

    Search for Mercedes

  • me15/05/2009 at 18:53

    The dodgy character appears in comment 197 and is quoted in 198

    you are a star! thank you. fixed.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 18:55

    you are a star! thank you. fixed.

    lclt comments loaded instantly

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 18:56

    lclt comments loaded instantly

    Yup same here. Normal service is resumed :)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 18:59

    Cool. Litespeed's possible entry into F1 was the top story on the BBC 90 second update for Look East.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 19:15

    Try out your own! It’s really freaked me out how much I say certain things at certain times, and my twitter seemed to go mad in April this year… you an try it at http://tweetstats.com/

    Evenin' all. That's awesome. It proves I am a night owl.

    My top words: f1, update], [blog, race, time

    the square brackets are because whenever I do a new blog psot TwitterFeed tweets a link to it prefixed by [blog update]

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 19:18

    But if the case is already in court? There is no precedent to this.

    Only Alianora could answer that. {Comment #277}

    I can answer that, but not in the scope of a comment. So I've written a blog entry about Ferrari's injunction application and the likely consequences.

    Warning - mentions tea leaves.

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 19:24

    It’ll boil down to how that contract was worded. But I think Ferrari can argue that ADDING a rule is still subject to their veto, even if it isn’t REPLACING any old ones. {Comment #278}

    Technically speaking, the Sporting Working Group and Technical Working Group have to agree to a regulation change in the Sporting and Technical Regulations respectively before the WMSC can judge it. The budget cap involves changes to both documents, so both the SWG and TWG should have agreed before the WMSC was involved. Since the budget cap was never even presented to either in its current form, Appendix 5 of the Sporting Regulations has been breached.

    There are no sanctions listed for the FIA if it refuses to comply with the Sporting Regulations, so there is no form of obligatory redress except for the courts (either the Swiss Court of Arbitration in Lausanne, which has been known to take years to decide, or the French Civil Court). Part of the contract between teams and the FIA is surely that the Sporting Regulations will be adhered to.

    Therefore there is a breach of contract on the part of the FIA, subject to any mitigatory/vindicatory information the FIA may possess. Ferrari should have no trouble proving their case.

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 19:27

    So at this point, who can they get to lead a coup within the FIA against Max? {Comment #280}

    Probably anyone who isn't already in Max's pocket, as long as they converge on one person.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 19:30

    Steven Roy: 15/05/2009 at 15:22

    How did we go from being a bunch of sleep deprived motor racing addicts to swapping recipes and live commenting the Eurovision song contest?

    The odd thing is that even though there are more women here than on the average F1 site it is all men who are doing these things. We need a big controversial story to break out of today’s talks to get us back on track.

    You're right, we need to do more manly things.

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 19:34

    It's quite amusing - a search for F1 reveals almost wall-to-wall doom, gloom and budget stuff, then there's one in the middle extolling the virtues of the "Felipe Baby" song. Admittedly, I've had to send a twitter to the author of said Twitter to tell him/her the author, but it's nice to see that song is still cheering people up :)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 19:34

    Warning - mentions tea leaves.

    I have to read the post just to figure out why I need to be warned about tea.

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:36

    quick question - when Schumi broke both his legs...how fast was the crash. anyone remember of the top of their head to save me looking?

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:37

    You’re right, we need to do more manly things.

    Ummm. anyone got any ideas? We could make cakes for Eurovision tomorrow night? :)

  • Trpzip215/05/2009 at 19:38

    quick question - when Schumi broke both his legs...how fast was the crash. anyone remember of the top of their head to save me looking?

    I thought he only broke one leg (left leg).

    The entry to Stowe corner before braking is around 280-290 kmh. The car did not slow down much, he probably hit the barriers over 160kmh.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 19:38

    quick question - when Schumi broke both his legs...how fast was the crash. anyone remember of the top of their head to save me looking?

    It was about 150 mph. Stowe is the fastest part of the track around 210mph ish. So some braking and gravel puts it at 150 ish

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 19:39

    Ummm. anyone got any ideas? We could make cakes for Eurovision tomorrow night? :)

    I think we need to blow things up. If only sidepodcast could find Max's front door

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:42

    It was about 150 mph. Stowe is the fastest part of the track around 210mph ish. So some braking and gravel puts it at 150 ish

    grazie :)

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 19:42

    From #maxout it looks like Alianora has got her twitter working. {Comment #304}

    I have, though I'm still getting my head around #hashtags...

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:42

    anyways... evening :D

  • Trpzip215/05/2009 at 19:43

    I found the info

    The FIA Accident Data Recorder (black box) from Michael Schumacher's car has been downloaded. "Preliminary analysis indicates he first braked at 306 kmph and achieved an initial deceleration of 3.1g ("g" is the acceleration due to gravity: 35.3 kph per second). This then fell to 2.1g. At 204 kph the front wheels locked. By the time he left the tarmac, the deceleration had fallen to 1.3g. The average deceleration in the gravel trap was 1.1g. The speed of impact at the tyre barrier was 107 kph.

    http://www.f1rogues.com/content/investigator/1999silverstone/1999_schumacher_silverstone_detail_6.htm

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 19:43

    anyways... evening :D

    evening :) how are you feeling?

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 19:43

    anyways... evening :D

    How did it go then? ;)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 19:44

    anyways... evening :D

    There you are. How were the exams?

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:45

    I found the info

    Thanks everyone. Some great info :)

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:45

    anyways... evening :D

    Hope today was oka for you. Just realised this morning what you talked about last night :)

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:46

    How did it go then? ;)

    well, i'm shattered, my hand is still aching and i used a whole pen full of ink in just 4 hours :s ICT was really tough, and we had an awesome 20 mark essay question at the end :( My two psychology papers were alright, pretty hard going, but i'm just pleased it's all over tbh. 5 down 2 to go...

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:47

    evening :) how are you feeling?

    i'm feeling much better, plus my sore throat has finally gone. have an awful cough still...

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:48

    well, i'm shattered, my hand is still aching and i used a whole pen full of ink in just 4 hours :s ICT was really tough, and we had an awesome 20 mark essay question at the end :( My two psychology papers were alright, pretty hard going, but i'm just pleased it's all over tbh. 5 down 2 to go...

    and by awesome i mean very hard, and awful... did i mention i was tired.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 19:48

    well, i'm shattered, my hand is still aching and i used a whole pen full of ink in just 4 hours :s ICT was really tough, and we had an awesome 20 mark essay question at the end :( My two psychology papers were alright, pretty hard going, but i'm just pleased it's all over tbh. 5 down 2 to go...

    Oh well. At least you've got it done with and you are nearly finished it as well.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 19:49

    well, i'm shattered, my hand is still aching and i used a whole pen full of ink in just 4 hours :s ICT was really tough, and we had an awesome 20 mark essay question at the end :( My two psychology papers were alright, pretty hard going, but i'm just pleased it's all over tbh. 5 down 2 to go...

    at least now you can relax after all the stress of worrying about today, plus it's all over for the day now though and you gave it your best shot no doubt :) and no sore throat!

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 19:49

    well, i’m shattered, my hand is still aching and i used a whole pen full of ink in just 4 hours {Comment #399}

    Well done for getting through it, lou. Hope the results are an accurate reflection of the hard work you put into the subjects :)

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:49

    and by awesome i mean very hard, and awful... did i mention i was tired.

    :) Great effort Lou! hurrah! These are the a-level trails right? I skimmed last night's messages this morning.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:49

    Oh well. At least you've got it done with and you are nearly finished it as well.

    yep, just 2 more and they are in early june. Anyways thanks soooo much for the help and amazing words of wisdom everyone last night :)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 19:51

    From #maxout it looks like Alianora has got her twitter working. {Comment #304}

    I still think I understated my point in my tweet earlier today:

    #maxout #maxout #maxout #maxout #maxout #maxout cannot stress this enough #maxout #maxout

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 19:51

    well, i'm shattered, my hand is still aching and i used a whole pen full of ink in just 4 hours :s ICT was really tough, and we had an awesome 20 mark essay question at the end :( My two psychology papers were alright, pretty hard going, but i'm just pleased it's all over tbh. 5 down 2 to go...

    Big sigh of relief then. :-)

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:51

    :) Great effort Lou! hurrah! These are the a-level trails right? I skimmed last night's messages this morning.

    nope they are AS exams.

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 19:51

    i’m feeling much better, plus my sore throat has finally gone. have an awful cough still… {Comment #400}

    That's good. Now can the cough please go away as well, because I want a happy lou here? ;)

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:52

    i suppose it's time to start catching up on news and comments and stuff. :)

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:53

    nope they are AS exams.

    oops. not paying attention at all when i skimmed. sorry.

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 19:53

    I still think I understated my point in my tweet earlier today: {Comment #407}

    Well, I suppose a 140-character platform will have its limitations...

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:54

    That's good. Now can the cough please go away as well, because I want a happy lou here? ;)

    hehe :) i'm just sooo pleased it's over, but this cough is getting a little ridiculous, if it gets much worse i'll pop into the doctors on monday on the way in to school (am on study leave so can come and go in school as i please). but much pressure if off my shoulders now and i feel very relieved i made it through todays 5hrs 30mins of exams :)

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:54

    i suppose it's time to start catching up on news and comments and stuff. :)

    apparently this forum now is all about recipes and eurovision (I've only read the last 20 minutes worth)

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:55

    hehe :) i'm just sooo pleased it's over, but this cough is getting a little ridiculous, if it gets much worse i'll pop into the doctors on monday on the way in to school (am on study leave so can come and go in school as i please). but much pressure if off my shoulders now and i feel very relieved i made it through todays 5hrs 30mins of exams :)

    I don't envy you at all. As for the cough, have you been to Mexico recently?

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:55

    oops. not paying attention at all when i skimmed. sorry.

    not a problem :) i can't believe i've nearly finished my AS exams... it feels like i was only studying GCSEs yesterday :s

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 19:55

    apparently this forum now is all about recipes and eurovision (I've only read the last 20 minutes worth)

    Tomorrow night will be about eurovision fuelled by pizza and wine and the odd look at Day 3 of Indy 500 quals. For me anyway.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 19:56

    i suppose it's time to start catching up on news and comments and stuff. :)

    FIA and FOTA and Bernie had a meeting today. Nobody agreed anything except while the meeting was in progress Ferrari started a French court case against the FIA because Ferrari has the right to veto any rules it does not like and the budget cap was introduced without them having the option of vetoing it.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 19:56

    hehe :) i'm just sooo pleased it's over, but this cough is getting a little ridiculous, if it gets much worse i'll pop into the doctors on monday on the way in to school (am on study leave so can come and go in school as i please). but much pressure if off my shoulders now and i feel very relieved i made it through todays 5hrs 30mins of exams :)

    How much of the cough/illness was brought about by exam stress? I'm sure you'll feel a ton better this weekend. Also, buy those Vitamin C tablets from Boots and have one dropped in a pint of water.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:56

    I don't envy you at all. As for the cough, have you been to Mexico recently?

    hehe nope, although my school did have a scare for swine flu last thursday apparently. All is ok though, as long as it doesn't disturb my exams and stuff i don't mind.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 19:56

    I don't envy you at all. As for the cough, have you been to Mexico recently?

    :D

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 19:56

    I don't envy you at all. As for the cough, have you been to Mexico recently?

    Shhh, Christine will hear.

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:56

    not a problem :) i can't believe i've nearly finished my AS exams... it feels like i was only studying GCSEs yesterday :s

    Look at this as a badge of honour, a massive achievement :)

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:57

    hehe nope, although my school did have a scare for swine flu last thursday apparently. All is ok though, as long as it doesn't disturb my exams and stuff i don't mind.

    I wonder how many unprepared students thought about bringing in a pig to the exam hall to freak everyone out and get the exam cancelled. Just a thought...

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:57

    How much of the cough/illness was brought about by exam stress? I'm sure you'll feel a ton better this weekend. Also, buy those Vitamin C tablets from Boots and have one dropped in a pint of water.

    that sounds like a very good idea. well it came on around the start of my exams (last week) so it could be brought on my exam stress i suppose.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 19:58

    I wonder how many unprepared students thought about bringing in a pig to the exam hall to freak everyone out and get the exam cancelled. Just a thought...

    I have a hall exam on Wednesday I dont want to do, cheers!

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 19:58

    Tomorrow night will be about eurovision fuelled by pizza and wine and the odd look at Day 3 of Indy 500 quals. For me anyway.

    I'll be here. Not sure what food I'll have. I might manly it buy gnawing on some chicken and generally making a mess.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:59

    FIA and FOTA and Bernie had a meeting today. Nobody agreed anything except while the meeting was in progress Ferrari started a French court case against the FIA because Ferrari has the right to veto any rules it does not like and the budget cap was introduced without them having the option of vetoing it.

    wow. yeah i got a text from Luke saying nothing had been gained from the meeting. So what happens now do they just have another meeting?

  • lou15/05/2009 at 19:59

    Tomorrow night will be about eurovision fuelled by pizza and wine and the odd look at Day 3 of Indy 500 quals. For me anyway.

    eurovision is tomorrow?!

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:00

    eurovision is tomorrow?!

    yep :) just in time from your exams

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:00

    wow. yeah i got a text from Luke saying nothing had been gained from the meeting. So what happens now do they just have another meeting?

    Now FOTA are having their own meeting to decide their next move. More politics for the foreseeable future

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:00

    eurovision is tomorrow?!

    Seems to be

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:00

    eurovision is tomorrow?!

    Yeah, not worth it since the Polish entry is out though.

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:00

    Alianora - your last post was in the 14thMay daily - and i can't comment on it. that's a clever addition to the site that i haven't noticed before :)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 20:01

    hehe nope, although my school did have a scare for swine flu last thursday apparently. All is ok though, as long as it doesn’t disturb my exams and stuff i don’t mind.

    The whole swine flu thing is/was so overated and over-hyped. I mean, I don't think 75 odd confirmed cases are anything to get worried and screaming about. If it were hundreds or thousands being confirmed every day, then I started getting concerned about it. But with minimal cases, it's just not something to fret over. The whole pandemic thing is rubbish, utter rubbish.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 20:01

    eurovision is tomorrow?!

    Yep. I was channel flicking earlier and The One Show had a clip of our song. First time I'd heard it. It's dirge. Just your average idendikit female ballad song.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:01

    The whole swine flu thing is/was so overated and over-hyped. I mean, I don't think 75 odd confirmed cases are anything to get worried and screaming about. If it were hundreds or thousands being confirmed every day, then I started getting concerned about it. But with minimal cases, it's just not something to fret over. The whole pandemic thing is rubbish, utter rubbish.

    I dunno

    it did come with a lovely leaflet

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 20:02

    Alianora - your last post was in the 14thMay daily - and i can't comment on it. that's a clever addition to the site that i haven't noticed before :)

    You can change the tab at the top of the Doohickey. As long we don't stray there too much.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:02

    yep :) just in time from your exams

    wow, shows how disconnected i've been from things recently. i've not had time to ask any friends over now, watching eurovision on your own is never as fun.

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:02

    The whole pandemic thing is rubbish, utter rubbish.

    I have to disagree with you. It's the apocalypse. First "honda" start winning races and then we get a new plague, and then ferrari leave F1...it's all so obvious...

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 20:02

    Yeah, not worth it since the Polish entry is out though.

    They'd better do a recap of the ones that were knocked out.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:03

    wow, shows how disconnected i've been from things recently. i've not had time to ask any friends over now, watching eurovision on your own is never as fun.

    It looks like it is going to be live commented here

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:03

    You can change the tab at the top of the Doohickey. As long we don't stray there too much.

    Now that thing makes sense :)

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 20:03

    . The whole pandemic thing is rubbish, utter rubbish.

    ah but your definition for pandemic is different to theirs, pandemic is an illness on 6 countrys.

    everyone else's definition is loads of people dying

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 20:03

    I have to disagree with you. It's the apocalypse. First "honda" start winning races and then we get a new plague, and then ferrari leave F1...it's all so obvious...

    What next - us winning Eurovision? Pfft.

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:04

    It looks like it is going to be live commented here

    That's why I'm showing up tomorrow night :) Good thing there's not a race tomorrow to get in the way of the posts..

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:04

    They'd better do a recap of the ones that were knocked out.

    I hope they do. I miss it already

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 20:04

    It looks like it is going to be live commented here

    It is a big event live across a continent on a Saturday evening, of course it is - although I would like to table the motion that we don't talk too much about it tonight.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:05

    They'd better do a recap of the ones that were knocked out.

    They should just show all the worst songs as they're always the best songs

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:05

    I hope they do. I miss it already

    I had a great justin tv window last night - for f1 i normally ignore the chat window but last night some of the comments were hilarious. It's a pity Wogan's not around this year, but hopefully it'll still be a great laugh!

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:05

    It looks like it is going to be live commented here

    ah that's alright then, i wont be alone :)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:05

    Is it just me or is this spacewalk going way over schedule?

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:06

    It is a big event live across a continent on a Saturday evening, of course it is - although I would like to table the motion that we don't talk too much about it tonight.

    saving the best for tomorrow. Yeah fair point. So do we go back to talking about recipes? I've got some great cakes on my desk courtesy of the work cafe getting rid of their stock before the weekend....

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 20:06

    So what happens now do they just have another meeting? {Comment #429}

    Normally, yes they would. With the injuction application, everything hangs on whether the injunction is upheld. If it is, it will be impossible for the budget cap to be brought in for 2010 and Max Mosley will have smoke coming out of his ears. If it isn't, Ferrari will be in serious trouble and I can see every team being either disqualified or not in F1 at all come the time the dust from 2010 settles.

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:07

    ah that's alright then, i wont be alone :)

    i felt guilty last night posting amessage last night about it - find my post from yesterday night asking for a feed. i was so well... embarrased ;)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:07

    ah that's alright then, i wont be alone :)

    With sidepodcast you are never alone

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:07

    Is it just me or is this spacewalk going way over schedule?

    I heard Christine flew up there and moved everything around on them just to make her point.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:07

    saving the best for tomorrow. Yeah fair point. So do we go back to talking about recipes? I've got some great cakes on my desk courtesy of the work cafe getting rid of their stock before the weekend....

    I think the best outcome out of todays meeting would've been what cakes the teams had agreed to share from monaco onwards thanks to the seeming addition of cakes to the paddock so far this year. The FIA Aand FOTA should be more united in their cake related antics

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:08

    With sidepodcast you are never alone

    Unless everyone disappears off to London to have ice cream and picnics...

  • Alianora La Canta15/05/2009 at 20:08

    your last post was in the 14thMay daily - and i can’t comment on it. {Comment #435}

    It should be commentable. I don't remember falling over the commenting cable as I left that thread...

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:08

    I heard Christine flew up there and moved everything around on them just to make her point.

    What was her point?

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:09

    What was her point?

    NASA never run on time. sorry too vague...

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:10

    Unless everyone disappears off to London to have ice cream and picnics...

    I only meant we would never leave Lou alone. You we would drop in a second.

    :)

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:10

    It should be commentable. I don't remember falling over the commenting cable as I left that thread...

    the option is ghosted and at the time of posting I didn't understand I could change the Active Thread thing up top.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:10

    I only meant we would never leave Lou alone. You we would drop in a second.

    hahah :D aww poor RG.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 20:10

    The odd thing is that even though there are more women here than on the average F1 site it is all men who are doing these things. We need a big controversial story to break out of today’s talks to get us back on track

    anthropology hat on

    Its known as 'social oiling' and its an integral part of building a community :-)

    /anthropology hat

    Lou, really glad to hear that your day is over! Cough likely to be because the stress has lifted - pretty normal reaction. Take Zinc lozenges alongside the Vitamin C (or go and buy a bottle of Floravital from Holland and Barretts or any independent health/wholefood store), to maximise the anti viral, pro immune system properties :-)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:10

    NASA never run on time. sorry too vague...

    Oh that point

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:10

    I only meant we would never leave Lou alone. You we would drop in a second.

    Oi.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 20:10

    What was her point?

    Barrichello-proofing space to make sure he doesn't crash into anything in a rage when Branson and Lauda take him up there?

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 20:12

    Unless everyone disappears off to London to have ice cream and picnics...

    Should we all come to whereever you are (newcastle rings bells, or is that wrong?) next then?

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:13

    Barrichello-proofing space to make sure he doesn't crash into anything in a rage when Branson and Lauda take him up there?

    :)

    We like you RG, Stay cool baby :)

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:13

    Lou, really glad to hear that your day is over! Cough likely to be because the stress has lifted - pretty normal reaction. Take Zinc lozenges alongside the Vitamin C (or go and buy a bottle of Floravital from Holland and Barretts or any independent health/wholefood store), to maximise the anti viral, pro immune system properties :-)

    thanks LPG :) i'll tell mum that that might help me :D

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:15

    We like you RG, Stay cool baby :)

    haha

    And yes, lpg, i'm in newcastle, but if we find anything motorsport related up here other than Croft. Then I'll be amazed

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 20:17

    thanks LPG :) i'll tell mum that that might help me :D

    Lol - there was a time (about the age of 18/19) that I lived on chips, salad greens and floravital...

    Oh... except that I also took a *lot* of coffee and proplus... I don't rec. that even if you are burning both ends of the candle erk!

  • Anthony15/05/2009 at 20:19
  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:20

    Oh... except that I also took a *lot* of coffee and proplus... I don't rec. that even if you are burning both ends of the candle erk!

    Today's diet was coffee, pasta and cake. I'm sure there was traces of vegetables in my pasta, but not sure...

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:20

    NASA announced after the launch that all the spacewalks had been planned in detail and they would all be completed within the 6 hours 30 minutes schedule. They are now at 7 hours 29 minutes

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 20:21
  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 20:22

    Coffee still features loud and clear in my current life.. it isn't a day without at least, um, some coffee in there..... As does pasta... and hmmmmm cake....

    I eat a lot more veg than the average person though (even in cake!), lol... Not eating animal anything leaves lots of space for that :-D

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:24

    Coffee still features loud and clear in my current life.. it isn't a day without at least, um, some coffee in there..... As does pasta... and hmmmmm cake....

    My sentence about food demonstrates I need to go shopping and not exist on the food that is easiest to take...

  • Scott in Italy15/05/2009 at 20:25

    I just saw this and felt I had to share:

    http://newsarse.com/2009/05/everyone-else-in-f1-slows-down-or-we-are-off-say-ferrari/

    interesting website. i'll check it out more. i like the bbc look too.

    I'm headoffline now. night all and see you for eurovision live commenting tomorrow!

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:25

    I'm headoffline now. night all and see you for eurovision live commenting tomorrow!

    See ya Scott

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:26

    I'm headoffline now. night all and see you for eurovision live commenting tomorrow!

    night, see ya for a night of awesomely bad music :P

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 20:26

    I'm headoffline now. night all and see you for eurovision live commenting tomorrow!

    See ya!

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:26

    Night Scott

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 20:28

    I'm laughing so much at this at the moment :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX5xBJ9GmK4

    Warning: strong language at times. :P

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:28

    I'm headoffline now. night all and see you for eurovision live commenting tomorrow!

    see ya!

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 20:29

    Have a search on YT for a parody version of Ross Kemp on Gangs. It's so funny :D

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:29

    ooo Murray's playing tennis in the Madrid Masters in a sec :)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:30

    ooo Murray's playing tennis in the Madrid Masters in a sec :)

    Is it on tv at all?

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 20:31

    ooo Murray's playing tennis in the Madrid Masters in a sec :)

    He's a bit old for that isn't he? ;)

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:31

    Is it on tv at all?

    yep sky sports 3 :)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:31

    yep sky sports 3 :)

    ooh yay! free tv downstairs as well.. :D

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:32

    apologises if this has already been mentioned but did christine say there was meant to be a mini series this week?

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:35

    apologises if this has already been mentioned but did christine say there was meant to be a mini series this week?

    I did. I cut it from the edited show though.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:36

    I did. I cut it from the edited show though.

    Just a week off for you this weekend then?

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:36

    I did. I cut it from the edited show though.

    So does that mean there will be a live show on Sunday or not then?

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:37

    So does that mean there will be a live show on Sunday or not then?

    Undecided.

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:38

    Undecided.

    Fair enough :)

    Although you guys do deserve a bit of a rest personally!

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 20:38

    So does that mean there will be a live show on Sunday or not then?

    I thought the decision was there wouldn't be a live show this week but one next week instead.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:39

    I did. I cut it from the edited show though.

    oh right, sorry i haven't caught up with the last few podcasts of late due to exams, but am planning on catching up this weekend.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:39

    Although you guys do deserve a bit of a rest personally!

    It really depends on whether we can face talking about budget caps AGAIN, and I'm leaning towards not at the moment.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 20:40

    Undecided.

    not sure anyone would hold it against you if you decided you wanted a rest, you had a very busy sunday last week.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:40

    not sure anyone would hold it against you if you decided you wanted a rest, you had a very busy sunday last week.

    Not sure anyone can hold anything against us, can they? ;)

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:41

    It really depends on whether we can face talking about budget caps AGAIN, and I'm leaning towards not at the moment.

    Fair enough. Don't blame you for not wanting to cos I'm sick of it.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 20:41

    It really depends on whether we can face talking about budget caps AGAIN, and I'm leaning towards not at the moment.

    Agreed. While it's the main F1 story at the moment, I'm not really keen on discussing it to be honest.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 20:41

    Fair enough. Don’t blame you for not wanting to cos I’m sick of it.

    I think we all are, bud.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:42

    He's a bit old for that isn't he? ;)

    :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:43

    Undecided.

    Oh good. We have a live show on Sunday

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 20:44

    Not sure anyone can hold anything against us, can they? ;)

    If you are going to have a Sunday off though - go *out* and *leave the iphone/gphone at home* :-D

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:44

    Oh good. We have a live show on Sunday

    Only if you can come up with something else for us to talk about.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:44

    If you are going to have a Sunday off though - go *out* and *leave the iphone/gphone at home* :-D

    But who will keep an eye on the comments?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:45

    If you are going to have a Sunday off though - go *out* and *leave the iphone/gphone at home* :-D

    Leave the internet? They will get withdrawal symptoms

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:45

    If you are going to have a Sunday off though - go *out* and *leave the iphone/gphone at home* :-D

    Yea, we tried that. It didn't work.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 20:45

    Only if you can come up with something else for us to talk about.

    Eurovision?

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:46

    Eurovision?

    I doubt we'll be watching.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:47

    Only if you can come up with something else for us to talk about.

    There are all sorts to talk about.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 20:50

    Yea, we tried that. It didn't work.

    Um, food, alcohol... cinema? A decent gig somewhere? Local theatre?

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:51

    Um, food, alcohol... cinema? A decent gig somewhere? Local theatre?

    But we likes the internet.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:52

    There are all sorts to talk about.

    Anything in particular?

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 20:53

    But we likes the internet.

    Well, yes. Same here!

    Was just trying to think of how you could avoid the 'I'll just see what's in the comments' factor....

    LPG has just realised that save a couple of things on iPlayer and a couple of Tintin DVDs she has now not watched 'television' (other than the GP) for nearly a fortnight, and not noticed....)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 20:54

    Anything in particular?

    erm

    We wil think of something

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 20:58

    Anything in particular?

    Budg...ies.

    Budgie caps.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 20:58

    We wil think of something

    You could go somewhere that didn't involve talking?

    Or you could take a leaf from the oeuvre that is Python...

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 20:59

    Budgie caps.

    Hehehe.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:00

    Budgie caps.

    like little hats for budgies? are they Kimi-esque or do they fit? :D

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 21:00

    I've a feeling the budget caps will become an unmentionable soon. No-one wants to talk about them and everyone's getting tired of hearing all about them! :P

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:01

    like little hats for budgies? are they Kimi-esque or do they fit? :D

    I'm not sure why but that forced my to google whether they are or not...

    Like I've seen a budgie actually weraring a cap. :P

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:02

    I've a feeling the budget caps will become an unmentionable soon. No-one wants to talk about them and everyone's getting tired of hearing all about them! :P

    I've a feeling a certain song contest will be unmentionable after tomorrow.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:02

    I'm not sure why but that forced my to google whether they are or not...

    Photoshop time?

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 21:02

    like little hats for budgies? are they Kimi-esque or do they fit? :D

    :-D

    I've got a pattern somewhere for the 'hats for the top of smoothie bottles'. Those would probably fit a budgie?

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 21:03

    I've a feeling the budget caps will become an unmentionable soon. No-one wants to talk about them and everyone's getting tired of hearing all about them! :P

    in my head thats already happened. i dont care anymore, i just want someone to tell me when its all sorted

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 21:03

    I've a feeling the budget caps will become an unmentionable soon. No-one wants to talk about them and everyone's getting tired of hearing all about them! :P

    How do we explain next season when there is no one there?

    "There are all new teams for 2010 after the teams pulled out due to, er, well Ferrari had a fire, BMW went bankrupt, McLaren lied within themselves and lost all the money, Piquet crashed all of Renault cars and they went bankrupt, Toyota just got bored and left."

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:03

    Photoshop time?

    Me? photoshop such a ridiculous thing!

    Blasphemy!

    *hides taskbar at bottom of screen*

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:04

    There must be something else to talk about, this is silly.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:05

    Budgie caps.

    You are going to limit the number of budgies each team can have?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 21:05

    There must be something else to talk about, this is silly.

    There is - the fact that there's nothing to talk about! :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:05

    Or you could take a leaf from the oeuvre that is Python...

    A silent podcast? That is a bit artistic?

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:06

    You are going to limit the number of budgies each team can have?

    It's got to the point where the FIA just have to take action I'm afraid. Budgies are growing at an alarm pace within the paddock.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 21:07

    A silent podcast? That is a bit artistic?

    "So...............erm...............something.........happened.........and.........erm.........erm......"

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:07

    It's got to the point where the FIA just have to take action I'm afraid. Budgies are growing at an alarm pace within the paddock.

    F1 is overrun by giabt budgies?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:07

    F1 is overrun by giabt budgies?

    giant

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:09

    "So...............erm...............something.........happened.........and.........erm.........erm......"

    I could be unkind and mention Alex's name, but I won't.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 21:09

    A silent podcast? That is a bit artistic?

    I was thinking along the lines of 'now, you booked an argument....'

    Mind you - how long is the average podcast? You could just do a John Cage and have the 'ambience' be the podcast?

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:10

    There must be something else to talk about, this is silly.

    well as you know jenson is doing a triathlon thing in london i'll hopefully go and watch.., and that's about all i have to even mention f1 news wise..

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:12

    I was thinking along the lines of 'now, you booked an argument....'

    Mind you - how long is the average podcast? You could just do a John Cage and have the 'ambience' be the podcast?

    John Cage booking an ambient argument. That is an amazing prospect.

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 21:12

    A silent podcast? That is a bit artistic?

    You could play Marcel Marceu's album?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:15

    well as you know jenson is doing a triathlon thing in london i'll hopefully go and watch.., and that's about all i have to even mention f1 news wise..

    I am sure everyone could come up with one subject whether it is how ugly the BMW is or what does Nelson Piquet really know thatforces Flavio to keep his boy in the car.

    BTW for anyone interested Gary Anderson has a really good short piece in this week's Autosport explaining how the aero load changes during braking and cornering and the implications of making even the smallest change to the front wing. It is not remotely technical and is only a couple of hundred words.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:16

    You could play Marcel Marceu's album?

    and do hand gestures

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:16

    Hello evening, this is surreal.. just walked in on chat about giant budgies :D

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:17

    Hello evening, this is surreal.. just walked in on chat about giant budgies :D

    ohh wait till you see what I've got ready to post. :P

    evening!

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:17

    Hello evening, this is surreal.. just walked in on chat about giant budgies :D

    That is about the least surreal thing that has been said in the last 15 minutes

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:18

    That is about the least surreal thing that has been said in the last 15 minutes

    Should I venture back through the comments?

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:18

    I am sure everyone could come up with one subject whether it is how ugly the BMW is or what does Nelson Piquet really know thatforces Flavio to keep his boy in the car.

    oor.... we could give Mr and Mrs C a weekend off?

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:18

    Hi Lukeh

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:18

    I want to read the news about the meetings etc today but I don't have the energy.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:18

    Should I venture back through the comments?

    depends how brave you feel :)

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:18

    oor.... we could give Mr and Mrs C a weekend off?

    chatting about podcasts?

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:19

    Evening Jackie.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 21:19

    oor.... we could give Mr and Mrs C a weekend off?

    i like that idea :)

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:19

    I want to read the news about the meetings etc today but I don't have the energy.

    There's a viseo interview with Max on the BBC site .. has anyone given the link yet?

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:20

    Evening Jackie.

    Hi Lou .. feeling less stressed this evening?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:20

    oor.... we could give Mr and Mrs C a weekend off?

    They will just get bored or go out into the real world and get ill. We have to save them from themselves. Inside they are safe apart from the occasional temporary blindness whe the studio lights get turned up to 11.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:21

    I want to read the news about the meetings etc today but I don't have the energy.

    Total impasse. Nothing happened. While the meeting was in progress Ferrari sued the FIA in the French court.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:21

    There's a viseo interview with Max on the BBC site .. has anyone given the link yet?

    Not sure, don't think so. Don't know if I could take in the info...

    Think I'll write a blog post.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:22

    There's a viseo interview with Max on the BBC site .. has anyone given the link yet?

    Don't think so.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:22

    Not sure, don't think so. Don't know if I could take in the info...

    Think I'll write a blog post.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8049816.stm

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:22

    Hi Lou .. feeling less stressed this evening?

    i'm feeling much better, very relaxed atm :) i've had a lovely long bath and even dyed my hair this evening :D

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:22

    Not sure, don't think so. Don't know if I could take in the info...

    Think I'll write a blog post.

    I've given up on my blog already

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 21:22

    Not sure, don't think so. Don't know if I could take in the info...

    Think I'll write a blog post.

    I had a good idea for a blog post yesterday but today I have completely forgot what it was.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:23
  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:23

    I've given up on my blog already

    Really? Why?

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:23

    The latest news about the Budgie Cap can be found here

    Bad times for f1, I just hope the budgies gets sorted out safely

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 21:24

    I've given up on my blog already

    What?

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 21:24

    The latest news about the Budgie Cap can be found here

    Lukeh, you bloomin legend. :D

    The thought of Kimi as a budgie

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:25

    Really? Why?

    Politics?

    I already run PF with Mav so when he asked why I didn't write stuff like the two blog posts I did for our site instead it kinda made sense

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:25

    Bad times for f1, I just hope the budgies gets sorted out safely

    hahahahaha :D lol!!

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:25

    The latest news about the Budgie Cap can be found here

    Absolutely brilliant

  • me15/05/2009 at 21:26

    I already run PF with Mav so when he asked why I didn't write stuff like the two blog posts I did for our site instead it kinda made sense

    can mav not integrate the blog into PF?

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:27

    can mav not integrate the blog into PF?

    Yes I'm sure he could will have to have a proper chat about it so I have hidden it from view meantime and put my latest bloggy post on PF instead

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:28

    I already run PF with Mav so when he asked why I didn't write stuff like the two blog posts I did for our site instead it kinda made sense

    can mav not integrate the blog into PF?

    Good idea.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:28

    The latest news about the Budgie Cap can be found here

    Bad times for f1, I just hope the budgies gets sorted out safely

    Excellent!

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:28

    You have to feel sorry for budgies in F1 when no-one can see in the mirror. Budgies need to be able to see themselves in a mirror.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:31

    Here are my latest offerings if interested

    Link 1

    Link 2

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:36

    Max is deranged. He reckons that teams don't start designing their 2010 cars for another couple of months yet. He thinks it is still the 1970s

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 21:36

    The latest news about the Budgie Cap can be found here

    That's genius. We may have to blog it.

  • me15/05/2009 at 21:36

    Yes I'm sure he could will have to have a proper chat about it so I have hidden it from view meantime and put my latest bloggy post on PF instead

    understood. if it helps swing him, i'm 99% more likely to follow a blog over a forum. and although i do read PF posts (and many are excellent), the familiarity of a blog layout means i'm far more likely to comment, link and tweet posts.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:39

    understood. if it helps swing him, i'm 99% more likely to follow a blog over a forum. and although i do read PF posts (and many are excellent), the familiarity of a blog layout means i'm far more likely to comment, link and tweet posts.

    Thanks .. I guess I have to wait till Jolly gets back from his holiday to discuss things, he doesn't even know about the blog yet .. oops!

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:41

    That's genius. We may have to blog it.

    I think it deserves to be tweeted.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:41

    I think it deserves to be tweeted.

    Err, retweeted, 'cos Lukeh has already tweeted :-)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:42

    Ewan McGregor is on jonathon ross... I've just realised how much he kinda reminds me of Kimi...

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:42

    I think it deserves to be tweeted.

    Haha at the very least. It is pure genius, even the story has budgie caps all through it, that must have taken an age

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:43

    Ewan McGregor is on jonathon ross... I've just realised how much he kinda reminds me of Kimi...

    :o what?!

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:44

    I think it deserves to be tweeted.

    that must be an old budgie cap picture, Kimi's new hat would have covered his whole head

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:45

    :o what?!

    he's on bbc1 now, or at least will be in a sec to talk to jonathon :)

    look at this - does noone else see a bit of kimi in him?

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:45

    Err, retweeted, 'cos Lukeh has already tweeted :-)

    Dammit Ollie, you beat me to it :-)

  • me15/05/2009 at 21:45

    Thanks .. I guess I have to wait till Jolly gets back from his holiday to discuss things, he doesn't even know about the blog yet .. oops!

    you likes causing trouble ;)

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 21:46

    look at this - does noone else see a bit of kimi in him?

    In an odd way, I sort of do.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:46

    you likes causing trouble ;)

    I know, but they just need keeping on their toes :D

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:47

    Err, retweeted, 'cos Lukeh has already tweeted :-)

    Does noone else see the funny thing about something about budgies being re-tweeted?

    Just me? I'll get my coat. :P

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:47

    Here are my latest offerings if interested

    Link 1

    Link 2

    Can I just say link 2 makes a very good point that I haven't seen raised very often elsewhere - the redundancies.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:47

    he's on bbc1 now, or at least will be in a sec to talk to jonathon :)

    yeah i know :D

    look at this - does noone else see a bit of kimi in him?

    erm.. i'm not sure i really see it. but Ewan is rather awesome.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:48

    Does noone else see the funny thing about something about budgies being re-tweeted?

    Yep its tweet-tastic

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:48

    Does noone else see the funny thing about something about budgies being re-tweeted?

    It's not just you

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:49

    Does noone else see the funny thing about something about budgies being re-tweeted?

    It's hilarious, and the funniest part is the way you worded the original tweet, if someone is speedreading it or is half asleep they'll click expecting a long screed about budget caps to be confronted with a picture of a budgie wearing a Ferrari cap.

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 21:50

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    I'm having the greatest of difficulty to get excited about it...

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 21:50

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    Hmm, I think its just the political side. Once the racing comes back I'll have my enthusiasm back.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:51

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    I am, that's kinda why I've had the week off.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:51

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    I am not remotely bored with F1. Only with Max and Bernie

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:51

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    A little, yeah. As well as all the political rubbish I think we had too many races in a short timeframe straight after the long winter break, so we have had a lot to take in.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 21:51

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    I'm having the greatest of difficulty to get excited about it...

    I'm so glad you said that, i feel exactly the same

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:52

    I'm so glad you said that, i feel exactly the same

    Ditto

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:53

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    I'm not bored of the sport at all, but I am very tired of the way it's run

  • me15/05/2009 at 21:53

    christine's working on the breaking news story of the day. we need a quote from the man behind the discovery.

    lukeh, can tell us how you felt when first reading about about the budgie cap?

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 21:54

    Hmm, I think its just the political side. Once the racing comes back I'll have my enthusiasm back.

    Having difficulty getting excited about any racing as well.

  • me15/05/2009 at 21:54

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    no. the field is reversed, the big guns are struggling and the battle is just hotting up.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 21:54

    lukeh, can tell us how you felt when first reading about about the budgie cap?

    :D

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 21:54

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    I'm not bored of the sport at all, but I am very tired of the way it's run

    Same aussi, i have so much stuff going on in proper life atm and i'm just sick of waking up to find another stupid headline

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:55

    christine's working on the breaking news story of the day. we need a quote from the man behind the discovery.

    A bit chirpy?

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 21:55

    lukeh, can tell us how you felt when first reading about about the budgie cap?

    I'm a little upset to be honest, to stop these teams from going to their full potential because the FIA wants these budgies restricted is very unfair and I can't sing enough praises for what we have right now. The teams have seems so chirpy before this saga, and now with this budgie cap, they're just being stopped from spreading their wings of creativity.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:55

    Anhone else bored with F1 at the moment?

    bored? not sure i've ever been bored with F1. There is always something to get excited about even if something else is annoying. Atm i'm really excited about Monaco and the gp next week :D

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 21:56

    Same aussi, i have so much stuff going on in proper life atm and i'm just sick of waking up to find another stupid headline

    Sums it up brilliantly. I wait in wonder in the one week where F1 is not in the headlines for a bad reason, every bloomin week

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 21:56

    no. the field is reversed, the big guns are struggling and the battle is just hotting up.

    But you can't deny there's controversy and politics once again. That's whats making it a bit hard to bear with. Don't get me wrong, the racing's great but everything is else gets a resounding "meh".

  • me15/05/2009 at 21:56

    I'm a little upset to be honest, to stop these teams from going to their full potential because the FIA wants these budgies restricted is very unfair and I can't sing enough praises for what we have right now. The teams have seems so chirpy before this saga, and now with this budgie cap, they're just being stopped from spreading their wings of creativity.

    awe.some.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:56

    I'm a little upset to be honest, to stop these teams from going to their full potential because the FIA wants these budgies restricted is very unfair and I can't sing enough praises for what we have right now. The teams have seems so chirpy before this saga, and now with this budgie cap, they're just being stopped from spreading their wings of creativity.

    hahaha :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 21:57

    Having difficulty getting excited about any racing as well.

    This weekend we have

    Moto GP at Le Mans

    Indy 500 Bump day

    WTCC @ Pau

    DTM & Euro F3 @ Hockenheim

  • me15/05/2009 at 21:58

    But you can't deny there's controversy and politics once again. That's whats making it a bit hard to bear with. Don't get me wrong, the racing's great but everything is else gets a resounding "meh".

    a) quite like the politics

    b) it feels like we may be witnessing a turning point in f1. one of those things you hear steven roy talking about

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 21:58

    What you need is a video to accompany the story .. to the song "chirpy chirpy tweet tweet"

  • lou15/05/2009 at 21:58

    But you can't deny there's controversy and politics once again. That's whats making it a bit hard to bear with. Don't get me wrong, the racing's great but everything is else gets a resounding "meh".

    controversy and politics come hand in hand with f1, i've accepted that now, as long as they don't murder this season's racing i don't mind, i'm sure they'll sort it out. i maintain that Max will be leaving F1 long before any of the teams like Ferrari do.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 21:59

    This weekend we have Moto GP at Le Mans Indy 500 Bump day WTCC @ Pau DTM & Euro F3 @ Hockenheim

    Ah, some good ol' fashioned tin tops :D w00t for the start of the DTM season too.

  • me15/05/2009 at 21:59

    What you need is a video to accompany the story .. to the song "chirpy chirpy tweet tweet"

    :D

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 21:59

    This weekend we have

    Moto GP at Le Mans

    Indy 500 Bump day

    WTCC @ Pau

    DTM & Euro F3 @ Hockenheim

    I'm looking at that and thinking, mweh. I'd normally be up for MotoGP but I'm not there. The others just don't intrest me at all.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 21:59

    This weekend we have

    Moto GP at Le Mans

    Indy 500 Bump day

    WTCC @ Pau

    DTM & Euro F3 @ Hockenheim

    and ALMS at Salt Lake.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 21:59

    I'm a little upset to be honest, to stop these teams from going to their full potential because the FIA wants these budgies restricted is very unfair and I can't sing enough praises for what we have right now. The teams have seems so chirpy before this saga, and now with this budgie cap, they're just being stopped from spreading their wings of creativity.

    So Max just wants F1 done on the cheap.....

    LPG runs and hides...

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:00

    I think the FIA is over-estimating the cost of budgies. In general budgies are not expensive. The go pretty cheep.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:00

    a) quite like the politics

    b) it feels like we may be witnessing a turning point in f1. one of those things you hear steven roy talking about

    So are you saying that its *still* his fault....?

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 22:00

    So Max just wants F1 done on the cheap.....

    They're just trying to cage up the teams once more

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:00

    So Max just wants F1 done on the cheap.....

    excellent.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:00

    a) quite like the politics

    b) it feels like we may be witnessing a turning point in f1. one of those things you hear steven roy talking about

    Wasn't me. Didn't say nuthin

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:01

    What you need is a video to accompany the story .. to the song "chirpy chirpy tweet tweet"

    :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:02

    controversy and politics come hand in hand with f1, i've accepted that now, as long as they don't murder this season's racing i don't mind, i'm sure they'll sort it out. i maintain that Max will be leaving F1 long before any of the teams like Ferrari do.

    There is a letter in this week's Autosport which says that F1 can survive without Ferrari and it can also survive without Max Mosley and he should remember that.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:02

    oh and BTCC at Donington, 'cos apparently they fixed it

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:03

    oh and BTCC at Donington, 'cos apparently they fixed it

    The intrest has flooded back into me now

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 22:03

    oh and BTCC at Donington, 'cos apparently they fixed it

    i loved that headline lol

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:04

    I've said it before...

    Max is old.

    If ferrari et al can drag this out long enough, the problem will just go away....

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 22:04

    This weekend we have

    Moto GP at Le Mans

    Indy 500 Bump day

    WTCC @ Pau

    DTM & Euro F3 @ Hockenheim

    Not bothered by any of it. Especially the Indy 500

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:05

    i loved that headline lol

    They appearntly got the license at 6:30pm the other night

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:05

    Not bothered by any of it. Especially the Indy 500

    You've got a whole nother week of being not bothered yet, this is only qualifying.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 22:06

    Not bothered by any of it. Especially the Indy 500

    Moto GP should be good

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 22:08

    You've got a whole nother week of being not bothered yet, this is only qualifying.

    A week of qualifying? Good god.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:09

    A week of qualifying? Good god.

    Four days over two weekends.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:09

    Jackie - nice posts :-)

    F1 engineers not paid anything like as much as you may think though... the recent FiF1 job that was being talked about here paid a small enough salary that its previous occupant had a weekend job elsewhere.... and that was a chap with some serious qualifications.....

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:09

    A week of qualifying? Good god.

    Try 3 weeks

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:09

    Getting back to the budgie's .. do you think Max and Bernie are in a flap?

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:10

    Try 3 weeks

    3 weeks includes practice.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:11

    F1 engineers not paid anything like as much as you may think though... the recent FiF1 job that was being talked about here paid a small enough salary that its previous occupant had a weekend job elsewhere.... and that was a chap with some serious qualifications.....

    Ooh thanks, as I say it was just a ball park figure. I thought I'd underestimated as well.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:11

    Getting back to the budgie's .. do you think Max and Bernie are in a flap?

    I think Max has buried his head under his wing and is hoping that the problem goes away

  • Al15/05/2009 at 22:12

    Littlepurplegoth - If you still need a letter from an overseas scout I have someone willing to help out with it.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:13

    I think Max has buried his head under his wing and is hoping that the problem goes away

    I love all this pun stuff, but then I have a weird sense of humour :D

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:13

    Littlepurplegoth - If you still need a letter from an overseas scout I have someone willing to help out with it.

    Yes!!!!!!!!!! email is [email protected] :0

    You are owed some chocolate (or something, lol)

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 22:15

    Littlepurplegoth - If you still need a letter from an overseas scout I have someone willing to help out with it.

    I think you've just made a mother and a scout very happy ;)

  • Al15/05/2009 at 22:15

    Yes!!!!!!!!!! email is [email protected] :0

    Ok I will let her know.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:16

    You are owed some chocolate (or something, lol)

    Ooh chocolate .. wonder if I've got any

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:17

    Ooh chocolate .. wonder if I've got any

    Or maybe I need some Trill

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:19

    Or maybe I need some Trill

    I have chocolate with hempseeds in in the cupboard... its very yummy :-)

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:19

    Or maybe I need some Trill

    A Trill a minute.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:20

    A Trill a minute.

    Whats a trill?

  • Al15/05/2009 at 22:20

    Ok I will let her know.

    Actually, are there any more details I should include or just give the email address?

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:22

    A Trill a minute.

    Whats a trill?

    A race of people in Star Trek, or food for budgies.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:23

    Actually, are there any more details I should include or just give the email address?

    Um.. I don't know.

    If she emails me, I'll send her dd's name and our address etc that way (or if you email me, I'll send it to you for you to pass on if that's easier?) DD is supposed to write with some info about herself and the area we live in. And a letter back in a similar vein, I believe. Although the scout leader is muttering that an email may be OK, but I'm not personally entirely sure as given the issues thus far etc etc etc....

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:24

    A race of people in Star Trek, or food for budgies.

    Trill is the 'bird' name for hemp.....

    I thought the start trek race were the Tribbles?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:24

    A race of people in Star Trek, or food for budgies.

    I thought they were Tribbles

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:25

    I thought the start trek race were the Tribbles?

    That's what I thought, the tribbles were like furbies that ate and ate

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:26

    That's what I thought, the tribbles were like furbies that ate and ate

    I seem to remember that they bred and bred rather than ate and ate

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:26

    I thought they were Tribbles

    Jadzia Dax

  • Al15/05/2009 at 22:26

    I thought they were Tribbles

    Trill are a symbiotic race from the Deep Space 9 series ie Dax.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:26
  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:27

    Tribbles

    Tribbles were from the 60s show. Trill are on Deep Space 9.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 22:27

    Mr C has taken over my blog post. Lukeh, you have a lot to answer for.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:28

    I seem to remember that they bred and bred rather than ate and ate

    I think they ate and then bred or vice versa

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:28

    Jadzia Dax

    She was one of those symbiant things. Can't remember what they were called though

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:28

    Tribbles were from the 60s show. Trill are on Deep Space 9.

    Thanks :D .. now I feel old 60's ?!?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:28

    Mr C has taken over my blog post. Lukeh, you have a lot to answer for.

    How could you do anything so reckless?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 22:29

    Mr C has taken over my blog post. Lukeh, you have a lot to answer for.

    Wow, is that a first? :D

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:29

    Trill are a symbiotic race from the Deep Space 9 series ie Dax.

    Oh, yes.... I forgot about them....

    I tend to think 'star trek' = the original and of the others by their own names....opps

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:29

    I think they ate and then bred or vice versa

    That's gremlins

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 22:29

    Jadzia Dax

    Mmmmm... Dax.... :D

    The spots went all the way down... errr... apparently...;)

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 22:29

    Tribbles were from the 60s show. Trill are on Deep Space 9.

    Tribbles were also in DS9 - Trial and Tribble-ations.

  • Bassano Clapper15/05/2009 at 22:29

    Tribbles were from the 60s show. Trill are on Deep Space 9.

    To confuse matters more, DS9 did a show where they went back in time to the original series era and featured in the story line of the Tribbles episode

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:29

    That's gremlins

    What have I started?

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 22:30

    Mr C has taken over my blog post. Lukeh, you have a lot to answer for.

    *hides under duvet*

    This is why we need a budgie cap!

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:30

    I seem to remember that they bred and bred rather than ate and ate

    and are furry...

    oh, gord I've ust remembered something about someone from college... that I'd managed to forget up to now...

    Off to facebook to remind them :-S mwahahahhahaha

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:30

    To confuse matters more, DS9 did a show where they went back in time to the original series era and featured in the story line of the Tribbles episode

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trouble_with_Tribbles 1967 omg

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:31

    That's gremlins

    Gremlins don't breed - they sub divide.....

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:31

    To confuse matters more, DS9 did a show where they went back in time to the original series era and featured in the story line of the Tribbles episode

    Yes because the captain in DS9 wanted Kirk's autograph

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:32

    Yes because the captain in DS9 wanted Kirk's autograph

    Ah, so past the 'jumping the shark' point where I ceased to be able to stand it.....

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:32

    Gremlins don't breed - they sub divide.....

    Really? I am so ignorant

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 22:33

    That's gremlins

    I've seen that one!!

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:33

    Really? I am so ignorant

    As in 'never get them wet.'

    LPG feels very over exposed to 80's culture and is now wondering if she is old after all....

  • Bassano Clapper15/05/2009 at 22:33

    Ah, so past the 'jumping the shark' point where I ceased to be able to stand it.....

    But that is a funny episode

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:34

    I've seen that one!!

    Or maybe not so old then rofl

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:34

    For anyone who hasn't seen the trouble with tribbles

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3kHy4fqtpU

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:34

    I've seen that one!!

    Yay :D

  • Flibster15/05/2009 at 22:35

    I've seen that one!!

    Gremlins 2 is much better imo.

    Certainly much funnier :D

    Love the bit when they interrupt the film being shown and start laughing and going "nudie nudie" :D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:35

    As in 'never get them wet.'

    And don't feed them after midnight

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 22:35

    Gremlins 2 is much better imo.

    Certainly much funnier :D

    Oh :(

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:35

    Gremlins 2 is much better imo.

    Certainly much funnier :D

    ASCII character again

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 22:36

    ASCII character again

    Am on it.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:36

    I've just had an education .. I googled budgie + puns and I got a link to budgie smugglers .. ahem!

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:36

    Jadzia Dax

    Mmmmm... Dax.... :D

    The spots went all the way down... errr... apparently...;)

    So they say :-)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadzia_Dax

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:36

    Gremlins 2 was nowhere near as good as the original

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:37

    ASCII character again

    Wouldn't it be easier for Mr C if people didn't quote the character thing so he doesn't have to remove more?

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:37

    Ah, so past the 'jumping the shark' point where I ceased to be able to stand it.....

    Was that when they started doing the singing in the holodeck bar?

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 22:38

    Wouldn't it be easier for Mr C if people didn't quote the character thing so he doesn't have to remove more?

    Yes. My fault. At least this time I had to do the editing, so I only made more work for myself.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:38

    Wouldn't it be easier for Mr C if people didn't quote the character thing so he doesn't have to remove more?

    I am trying to distract him so that Christine gets her blog post back

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:39

    But that is a funny episode

    Yes - and it features Jadzia Dax in an original series miniskirt.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 22:39

    Just learnt something - apparently Sepang was started in 1988.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 22:40

    I am trying to distract him so that Christine gets her blog post back

    Too late.

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/05/15/f1-on-the-cheap/

    If anyone else can fit as many bird references into one post as this, I will eat my hat.*

    *edible hat once invented.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:40

    Two men were standing at the top of a cliff. One has two budgies, one on each shoulder. The other has a parrot and a shotgun. The first guy jumps off the cliff, and on the way down the birds fly away. He crashes on the rocks below and rolls over on his back. He looks up just in time to see his friend jump off too. As the second guy falls, the parrot flies off his shoulder. The guy raises his shotgun and fires at the bird just before he, too, crashes onto the rocks. The two lie there groaning in agony for a bit. Then the first man speaks. "I really don't see what is supposed to be so great about budgie jumping," he says. The second guy lets out a groan. "I'm not too impressed with free-fall parrot shooting either!"

  • me15/05/2009 at 22:41

    If anyone else can fit as many bird references into one post as this, I will eat my hat.*

    i have more...

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 22:42

    If anyone else can fit as many bird references into one post as this, I will eat my hat.*

    I'm all budgied out for one night!

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:42

    i have more...

    I may have got there before you could do more.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:44

    If anyone else can fit as many bird references into one post as this, I will eat my hat.*

    Excellent

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 22:46

    Two men were standing at the top of a cliff. One has two budgies, one on each shoulder. The other has a parrot and a shotgun. The first guy jumps off the cliff, and on the way down the birds fly away. He crashes on the rocks below and rolls over on his back. He looks up just in time to see his friend jump off too. As the second guy falls, the parrot flies off his shoulder. The guy raises his shotgun and fires at the bird just before he, too, crashes onto the rocks. The two lie there groaning in agony for a bit. Then the first man speaks. "I really don't see what is supposed to be so great about budgie jumping," he says. The second guy lets out a groan. "I'm not too impressed with free-fall parrot shooting either!"

    They're then joined by a third guy who put two hens on his arms. He says "Hey guys, let me tell you - this hen-gliding ain't what they say it is!"

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 22:47

    I have an off topic thought.

    Why not restrict teams on fuel. Give them 60l (or less) for a race. The engine has to be internal combustion and you can store and reuse energy. Those are all the rules.

    Sure one team would come up with something a lot faster than the others. But the other teams will copy them as is always in F1. Maybe at the end of the season an engine from each team is given to every other team so they can examine it. In 5 years time they would be creating so much power form so little fuel they could patent the idea and for ever fund the sport.

    Sorry for the randomness!

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 22:47

    Why not restrict teams on fuel. Give them 60l (or less) for a race. The engine has to be internal combustion and you can store and reuse energy. Those are all the rules.

    someone been watching MotoGp again ;)

  • me15/05/2009 at 22:49

    I'm all budgied out for one night!

    kudos to lpg for the title too ;)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:49

    I have an off topic thought.

    You think that is off topic? Compared to most of tonight's conversation this is the closest we have been to being on topic.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 22:49

    kudos to lpg for the title too ;)

    OH MY GOODNESS!!! I've only just got it 8-) whooops

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:50

    You think that is off topic? Compared to most of tonight's conversation this is the closest we have been to being on topic.

    Yes. It isn't the off-season. At other online places I've resided, anything relating to F1 is off-topic between November and February..

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 22:51

    You think that is off topic? Compared to most of tonight's conversation this is the closest we have been to being on topic.

    I mean off topic off topic.

    Hay Steven you are the Steven from the Podcasts with the scottish acent right?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:52

    The only problem is that Max and co would not introduce anything so revolutionary because one team may gain a huge advantage.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:52

    Hay Steven you are the Steven from the Podcasts with the scottish acent right?

    I like how Steven has his own fanclub now.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:53

    Hay Steven you are the Steven from the Podcasts with the scottish acent right?

    I have a feeling I should deny it but yes that am me

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:53

    I like how Steven has his own fanclub now.

    He may have a summons for me

  • me15/05/2009 at 22:53

    Hay Steven you are the Steven from the Podcasts with the scottish acent right?

    I like how Steven has his own fanclub now.

    :D

    apparently lou's famous after hosting too. me, i'm just do the numbers.

  • me15/05/2009 at 22:53

    He may have a summons for me

    :D

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:53

    I like how Steven has his own fanclub now.

    :D .. he needs a blog

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:54

    I like how Steven has his own fanclub now.

    I think that's another stage.

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 22:54

    apparently lou's famous after hosting too. me, i'm just do the numbers.

    Well clearly you can't be trusted to do the words.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:54

    apparently lou's famous after hosting too. me, i'm just do the numbers.

    Can I join the, 'Other lot' club then :)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 22:54

    apparently lou's famous after hosting too. me, i'm just do the numbers.

    awwwwwww poor mr c. numbers can be fun too!

    ...kinda....

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:55

    apparently lou's famous after hosting too. me, i'm just do the numbers.

    You just do the numbers badly according to Christine

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:55

    I think that's another stage.

    Get writing then :D

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 22:55

    Nah, when I hear your voice I can't stop thinking of Colin McRae. No offense at all.

    I just thought they guy was choice! My favorite driver of all time!

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:55

    awwwwwww poor mr c. numbers can be fun too!

    How long ago did you last have maths? ;)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:55

    :D .. he needs a blog

    You think I should start one and abandon it after a week

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 22:55

    Get writing then :D

    I'll update the wiki

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:56

    I think that's another stage.

    How can you go beyond stage 7 of 9

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 22:56

    You just do the numbers badly according to Christine

    He can't count to ten on his own fingers!!

  • me15/05/2009 at 22:56

    You think I should start one and abandon it after a week

    yeeouch.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:56

    Get writing then :D

    I'm halfway through a blog post! I've been writing it for ages and I've hardly done anything. Was watching last week's HIGNFY while commenting.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 22:56

    apparently lou's famous after hosting too. me, i'm just do the numbers.

    haha aww.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:56

    Nah, when I hear your voice I can't stop thinking of Colin McRae. No offense at all.

    I've got that when I read one of Steven's posts I can hear his voice :)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 22:56

    How long ago did you last have maths? ;)

    Well the kids program Playdays made numbers fun, and when Sesame street used to do them too. Big bird is a hero. :P

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 22:57

    How can you go beyond stage 7 of 9

    Might have to be an intermediary stage.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:57

    Nah, when I hear your voice I can't stop thinking of Colin McRae. No offense at all.

    I actually said after one show last year that I thought I sounded like him but normally I don't. I only noticed it on one show.

  • Kris15/05/2009 at 22:57

    I just managed to get Grand Prix 2 running in dosbox on a pendrive, Once I have all my worky type software on there too it'll be geeky lovefest :)

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:57

    How can you go beyond stage 7 of 9

    Doesn't that infer that there are 9 stages?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:58

    I've got that when I read one of Steven's posts I can hear his voice :)

    I am getting into your brain

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:58

    awwwwwww poor mr c. numbers can be fun too!

    How long ago did you last have maths? ;)

    :-(

    Although numbers does not ness. = maths.....

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 22:58

    Well the kids program Playdays made numbers fun, and when Sesame street used to do them too. Big bird is a hero. :P

    Poor budgie, ousted by big bird

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 22:59

    He can't count to ten on his own fingers!!

    Toes?

    The alphabet can be a useful 'numbers' tool :-D

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 22:59

    Doesn't that infer that there are 9 stages?

    But Amy is not stage 9 she is a few levels above that

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:00

    I've got that when I read one of Steven's posts I can hear his voice :)

    I do that with a few people, usually Steven, Gavin, Christine and MrC.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:00

    But Amy is not stage 9 she is a few levels above that

    stage 7 not 9

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 23:00

    Maybe get him some beens and he can use them. Then he could count to 20ish

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:00

    IndyCarCake

    @HVMracing http://twitpic.com/58xb0 - Happy birthday to HVM Team Manager Vince Kremer!

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:01

    I do that with a few people, usually Steven, Gavin, Christine and MrC.

    Not Giggles? His is the easiest to remember for me (Thats a compliment Alex)

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 23:02

    Not Giggles? His is the easiest to remember for me (Thats a compliment Alex)

    When are the "weeks" oast, I miss giggles

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:02

    Not Giggles? His is the easiest to remember for me (Thats a compliment Alex)

    Ah yeah Alex too. If it's any consolation he was the only one I recognised when I first saw everyone at the meetup - this may have been because Christine was surrounded by a large group and facing in a different direction.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 23:03

    Is there a live show this weekend?

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:04

    Is there a live show this weekend?

    we have nothing to talk about...

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:04

    Is there a live show this weekend?

    That question sparked off the Budgie Cap y'know.

    Undecided they say

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 23:04

    Poor budgie, ousted by big bird

    It could be worse... he could have been forced to become a helicopter.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:04

    we have nothing to talk about...

    Budgies

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:05

    It could be worse... he could have been forced to become a helicopter.

    :D

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 23:05

    we have nothing to talk about...

    sidepodchat show?

  • Bassano Clapper15/05/2009 at 23:06

    Cool pic of Space Shuttle Atlantis and Hubble in front of the sun

    http://www.astrosurf.com/legault/atlantis_hst_transit.html

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:06

    sidepodchat show?

    sidepodchat is on a break atm.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:06

    Budgies

    Badgers?

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:07

    sidepodchat is on a break atm.

    sounds like a good plan :)

  • Lukeh15/05/2009 at 23:07

    Heading off my laptop now so I'll see you guys tomorrow evening after work for an evening of eurovision bliss :P night!

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:07

    Badgers?

    blast from the past!

  • Bassano Clapper15/05/2009 at 23:07

    Budgies

    Badgers?

    Too freaky for words, had to quit that after 5 seconds

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 23:07

    hmm so I have to entertain myself on Sunday

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:08

    Heading off my laptop now so I'll see you guys tomorrow evening after work for an evening of eurovision bliss :P night!

    see ya squire.

  • Honky Tonk15/05/2009 at 23:08

    We could talk about why NASA is really sending up the LOR

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:08

    Heading off my laptop now so I'll see you guys tomorrow evening after work for an evening of eurovision bliss :P night!

    See ya Lukeh

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:08

    hmm so I have to entertain myself on Sunday

    don't hold us to it. something may yet happen.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:08

    blast from the past!

    I just remembered it. Budgie sounds a lot like badger. Think that was the trigger. Haven't seen it for a few years..

  • lou15/05/2009 at 23:09

    Heading off my laptop now so I'll see you guys tomorrow evening after work for an evening of eurovision bliss :P night!

    see ya!

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 23:09

    Heading off my laptop now so I'll see you guys tomorrow evening after work for an evening of eurovision bliss :P night!

    Night Lukeh, sleep well

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:09

    Heading off my laptop now so I'll see you guys tomorrow evening after work for an evening of eurovision bliss :P night!

    Night.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 23:10

    Can we not just stick to budgies...

    please?

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:11

    Can we not just stick to budgies...

    please?

    and there is the comment i least expected to see..ever

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:11

    Can we not just stick to budgies...

    Can't stay still. Always moving.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:11

    Can we not just stick to budgies...

    The badgers are just a poor imitation of hamster dance

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:12

    I'm so hopeless at deciding anything.

    Beer or wine?

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:13

    Beer.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:13

    I'm so hopeless at deciding anything.

    Beer or wine?

    What colour?

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:13

    Sorry, that was a bit pointless. I realised as soon as I posted that the act of asking decided for me.

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:14

    hmm so I have to entertain myself on Sunday

    we're thinking, as peeps are miffed at the fia, maybe sunday is a good day to bring back tremayning?

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:14

    What colour?

    Red. Tempranillo. Love Tempranillo. But if I drink red I'll sleep for a long time and I'd like to get my hair cut in the morning. So beer it is.

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:15

    we're thinking, as peeps are miffed at the fia, maybe sunday is a good day to bring back tremayning?

    Tremayne Time?

    Gimme that phone

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:15

    we're thinking, as peeps are miffed at the fia, maybe sunday is a good day to bring back tremayning?

    Good idea.

    I assume you would welcome voice mails while the peeps are in the mood

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 23:15

    we're thinking, as peeps are miffed at the fia, maybe sunday is a good day to bring back tremayning?

    I only saw the picture of David that he sent you and a bit about grrrrrrr .. may need a blog post to the background to tremayning first?

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:16

    I assume you would welcome voice mails while the peeps are in the mood

    brilliant plan.

    +44 121 28 87225

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:16

    I only saw the picture of David that he sent you and a bit about grrrrrrr .. may need a blog post to the background to tremayning first?

    Wait, there was one I think. Might be a link on the wiki somewhere

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:16

    I only saw the picture of David that he sent you and a bit about grrrrrrr .. may need a blog post to the background to tremayning first?

    Good point. There are a lot of people here who were not around when it was done before

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 23:16

    we're thinking, as peeps are miffed at the fia, maybe sunday is a good day to bring back tremayning?

    Um

    I may need someone to explain this?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:17

    +44 121 28 87225

    Or skype sidepodcast

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:17

    I only saw the picture of David that he sent you and a bit about grrrrrrr .. may need a blog post to the background to tremayning first?

    Please..

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:17

    I only saw the picture of David that he sent you and a bit about grrrrrrr .. may need a blog post to the background to tremayning first?

    read first: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/09/28/tremayning/

    listen second: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/10/05/its-tougher-than-you-think/

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:18

    Please..

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/09/28/tremayning/

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:18

    Damn you Mr C. One day I'll beat you to it

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:18

    Damn you Mr C. One day I'll beat you to it

    aww, apologies, sir.

    :(

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:25

    Just thought of the perfect headline

    Budgie caps are Max's latest bird-brained idea

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:25

    listen second: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/10/05/its-tougher-than-you-think/

    have just discovered that bridgestone running green tyres, is actually all scott's fault ;)

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:26

    read first: http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/09/28/tremayning/

    Ta. Have decided everyone here is crazy. I think I already knew this.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 23:26

    Budgie caps are Max's latest bird-brained idea

    or Budgie caps, what is Max twittering on about?

  • Nick15/05/2009 at 23:26

    What's the best way for a newbie to join in the fun? I've been reading/listening for a couple of weeks, tweeted Mr C, and I guess now's as good as time as any to take the plunge into comments?

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:27

    Ta. Have decided everyone here is crazy. I think I already knew this.

    Thanks, makes a change from evil, which is what my friends call me.

  • Jackie15/05/2009 at 23:27

    I'm off to bed. Goodnight all, thanks for the laugh. xx

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:27

    Ta. Have decided everyone here is crazy. I think I already knew this.

    Insanity is a slow process, don't rush it. ;)

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:28

    I'm off to bed. Goodnight all, thanks for the laugh. xx

    Goodnight

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:28

    Night Jackie.

    But hello Nick, best way to get a newbie in is commenting on some nonsense stuff like we are now. Budgies is popular at the mo.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:28

    have just discovered that bridgestone running green tyres, is actually all scott's fault ;)

    Scot, How could you?

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:28

    What's the best way for a newbie to join in the fun? I've been reading/listening for a couple of weeks, tweeted Mr C, and I guess now's as good as time as any to take the plunge into comments?

    Believe you just have sir, welcome aboard.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:28

    Night Jackie

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:29

    Double post, sorry. Doohickey had a slow moment.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 23:29

    What's the best way for a newbie to join in the fun? I've been reading/listening for a couple of weeks, tweeted Mr C, and I guess now's as good as time as any to take the plunge into comments?

    Heya Nick! and welcome to the mad world of the comments :D

    The wiki is always a great place to start to figure out what we've all be up to, but just jumping in and chatting is great too :D

    Wiki - http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/?t=anon

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 23:29

    What's the best way for a newbie to join in the fun?

    Beak first?

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:30

    What's the best way for a newbie to join in the fun? I've been reading/listening for a couple of weeks, tweeted Mr C, and I guess now's as good as time as any to take the plunge into comments?

    Hey Nick

    You can join in the conversation in the comments or you can phone in a voicemail to be read on a show or you can be on a show. Entirely up to you. Of course sooner or later if you don'e sign up for a show someone will volunteer you.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:30

    I'm off to bed. Goodnight all, thanks for the laugh. xx

    Good night Jackie

  • RG / Pedro Diniz15/05/2009 at 23:30

    Wiki - http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/?t=anon

    Contributions always welcome. Theres a twitter page on there somewhere where all of us are on twitter

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:32

    What's the best way for a newbie to join in the fun? I've been reading/listening for a couple of weeks, tweeted Mr C, and I guess now's as good as time as any to take the plunge into comments?

    Well first things first....

    Got a job?

    Family?

    Anything you do on a regular basic?

    Well forget about them now, SPC has officially just taken over your life ;)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:32

    So if there is a show with Tremayning on Sunday will it be recorded at the usual time?

  • lou15/05/2009 at 23:32

    Theres a twitter page on there somewhere where all of us are on twitter

    plus there are lots of useful pages explaining the live commenting solutions and such :)

  • Nick15/05/2009 at 23:32

    Cheers guys, Ironically i had a budgie called Nigel (after Mansell) when i was a kid, i guess that's as good a place to start as any, especially as he looks just like the one in the pic...

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 23:33

    Remember that link to the Disney Cars short film with Mater in Tokyo Gavin posted last night? I've been thinking - wouldn't it be great if they did a sequel with the story based around Le Mans? I don't know why but I have this vision of a scene with an Aston DBR9 and a Corvette C6.R having an argument on the Mulsanne straight.

    I daydream too much.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:33

    Cheers guys, Ironically i had a budgie called Nigel (after Mansell) when i was a kid, i guess that's as good a place to start as any, especially as he looks just like the one in the pic...

    I just know you are going to fit right in.

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:33

    So if there is a show with Tremayning on Sunday will it be recorded at the usual time?

    i think so. what you think?

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 23:34

    Remember that link to the Disney Cars short film with Mater in Tokyo Gavin posted last night? I've been thinking - wouldn't it be great if they did a sequel with the story based around Le Mans? I don't know why but I have this vision of a scene with an Aston DBR9 and a Corvette C6.R having an argument on the Mulsanne straight.

    There's an email address for John Lasseter somewhere on the pixar website.....

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:35

    I see David Richards has no sooner entered the LMP1 class at Le Mans than he wants the rules changed because petrol cars can't compete. Stoopid dcision to enter a petrol car then DR.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:36

    i think so. what you think?

    Can't think of a reason to change it but best to get the info out now when some people may believe that there was not going to be a show

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:36

    Cheers guys, Ironically i had a budgie called Nigel (after Mansell) when i was a kid, i guess that's as good a place to start as any, especially as he looks just like the one in the pic...

    hey nick. sidepodcast is official better for having you around ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 23:37

    I see David Richards has no sooner entered the LMP1 class at Le Mans than he wants the rules changed because petrol cars can't compete. Stoopid dcision to enter a petrol car then DR.

    'Tis a diesel class now essentially. :(

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:37

    Got a job?

    Family?

    Anything you do on a regular basic?

    Well forget about them now, SPC has officially just taken over your life ;)

    hehehehehe. sad but true.

    might have to wiki that as a fine comment in 2009.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:37

    Can you put a comment about the show and the voicemails in tomorrow's daily post to give people time to come up with ideas? I assume you had thought of that anyway.

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:38

    Can't think of a reason to change it but best to get the info out now when some people may believe that there was not going to be a show

    fair point. 7pm (ish) confirmed then.

    we will need tremaynisms though.

  • littlepurplegoth15/05/2009 at 23:38

    Cheers guys, Ironically i had a budgie called Nigel (after Mansell) when i was a kid, i guess that's as good a place to start as any, especially as he looks just like the one in the pic...

    Destiny at work....

  • Christine15/05/2009 at 23:38

    Can you put a comment about the show and the voicemails in tomorrow's daily post to give people time to come up with ideas? I assume you had thought of that anyway.

    Oooh daily post!!

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 23:38

    might have to wiki that as a fine comment in 2009.

    Maybe it should be our motto towards new people. ;)

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:38

    'Tis a diesel class now essentially. :(

    DR is arguing along with Oreca? t try and get the rules tweaked

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:38

    Maybe it should be our motto towards new people. ;)

    it may scare them off ;)

  • Nick15/05/2009 at 23:39

    No job at the moment

    Family live on the other side of the world

    Drinking?

    I guess its all compatible!

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:39

    Oooh daily post!!

    It's early for a daily post yet. Amy isn't even awake

  • RG15/05/2009 at 23:39

    Maybe it should be our motto towards new people. ;)

    'If ya want a wiki job done, contact RG'

    ooooh, you meant Jon's. Sorry, was an excellent post mate, soo horrifyingly true :)

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:40

    might have to wiki that as a fine comment in 2009.

    woot

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:40

    I see David Richards has no sooner entered the LMP1 class at Le Mans than he wants the rules changed because petrol cars can't compete. Stoopid dcision to enter a petrol car then DR.

    Agreed! He's playing politics, despite denying it.

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:41

    'If ya want a wiki job done, contact RG'

    If you are in charge of wiki updates how come the two I was supposed to do after Sundays show have not been done.

    So glad I am not to blame

  • RG15/05/2009 at 23:41

    If you are in charge of wiki updates how come the two I was supposed to do after Sundays show have not been done.

    Ah damn.

    *runs*

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:42

    No job at the moment

    Family live on the other side of the world

    Drinking?

    Were be you and where be they?

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 23:42

    I guess its all compatible!

    Perfect. :D

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:42

    So glad I am not to blame

    I blame Steven Roy.

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:42

    err, first one should be 'where' as well

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:42

    *runs*

    This is sidepodcast. You can't escape. Resistance is Finnish

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 23:42

    Ah damn.

    *runs*

    Good, now he's gone we can bad mouth Timo...

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:42

    I guess its all compatible!

    WELCOME ABOARD!

  • Steven Roy15/05/2009 at 23:43

    Good, now he's gone we can bad mouth Timo...

    I didn't want to say when RG was around but Autosport put a pick of Timo and his friend in the mag

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:43

    Were be you and where be they?

    sidepodmap?

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Listener+Map

  • RG15/05/2009 at 23:44

    Good, now he's gone we can bad mouth Timo...

    Don't think I'm letting you do that, that easily

  • Scott Woodwiss15/05/2009 at 23:44

    Don't think I'm letting you do that, that easily

    :D

  • RG15/05/2009 at 23:48

    Right heading off to bed, see you all in the morning. Ciao

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:48

    night r.g.

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:49

    Right heading off to bed, see you all in the morning. Ciao

    Niiiiight!!

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:49

    Night RG.

    How bizarre - ALMS this week is not live on USTV and apparently not aired here at all.

  • lou15/05/2009 at 23:49

    night RG

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:56

    How bizarre - ALMS this week is not live on USTV and apparently not aired here at all.

    Found the UK airing - delayed by one week supposedly because there isn't enough interest. So they've gone and scheduled it directly against the Indy 500 /shakes head/

  • me15/05/2009 at 23:58

    Found the UK airing - delayed by one week supposedly because there isn't enough interest. So they've gone and scheduled it directly against the Indy 500 shakes head

    it's cause franck's not driving.

  • Nick15/05/2009 at 23:58

    My only regret is not finding this site sooner.. I have been banned, yes BANNED from discussing F1 at the pub on penalty of £10!... had to sustain myself commenting on JA and JS's blogs.

    Thanks for the kind welcome¬!

  • Journeyer15/05/2009 at 23:59

    Thanks for the kind welcome¬!

    Glad to have you on board, Nick! :)

    How did you find the site, BTW?

  • Jon Waldock15/05/2009 at 23:59

    My only regret is not finding this site sooner.. I have been banned, yes BANNED from discussing F1 at the pub on penalty of £10!... had to sustain myself commenting on JA and JS's blogs.

    Welcome to your new pub ;)

  • Pat W15/05/2009 at 23:59

    it's cause franck's not driving.

    I just can't believe the apparent stupidity of some broadcasters. Motorsport outside F1 (and NASCAR in the US) is a niche market. Why split it even more?

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:00

    Why split it even more?

    Probably some snooker on or something

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:00

    My only regret is not finding this site sooner.. I have been banned, yes BANNED from discussing F1 at the pub on penalty of £10!... had to sustain myself commenting on JA and JS's blogs.

    You need to go on a podcast and tell us why. When's the panel back?

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:01

    My only regret is not finding this site sooner.. I have been banned, yes BANNED from discussing F1 at the pub on penalty of £10!... had to sustain myself commenting on JA and JS's blogs.

    they be quality sites. how did you find spc out of interest?

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:01

    Probably some snooker on or something

    Not on MotorsTV!

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:01

    Found the UK airing - delayed by one week supposedly because there isn't enough interest. So they've gone and scheduled it directly against the Indy 500 /shakes head/

    What kind of moron puts US racing against Indy?

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:01

    My only regret is not finding this site sooner.. I have been banned, yes BANNED from discussing F1 at the pub on penalty of £10!... had to sustain myself commenting on JA and JS's blogs.

    :o well we can't have that. never fear you'll be stuck in the gravitational pull that is the spc comments very soon :D

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:01

    Welcome to your new pub ;)

    You'll need to supply your own drinks though (unnamed energy drink is one favourite around here, apparently; although rose seems to come up a lot as well.... ;-) )

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:01

    You need to go on a podcast and tell us why. When's the panel back?

    hehehe. autumn!

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:01

    My only regret is not finding this site sooner.. I have been banned, yes BANNED from discussing F1 at the pub on penalty of £10!...

    Ha! Now you have to try to keep up here. Good luck !!!

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:02

    :o well we can't have that. never fear you'll be stuck in the gravitational pull that is the spc comments very soon :D

    We'll be back on Star trek, tribbles and trill before you know it

  • Journeyer16/05/2009 at 00:03

    What kind of moron puts US racing against Indy?

    A network TV moron, that's who. :P

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:03

    You'll need to supply your own drinks though (unnamed energy drink is one favourite around here, apparently; although rose seems to come up a lot as well.... ;-) )

    we have x2 different rose on the go today. i have dry, christine, sweet.

  • Journeyer16/05/2009 at 00:03

    We'll be back on Star trek, tribbles and trill before you know it

    :D Or maybe you mean swapping baking recipes. Haha! :P

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:03

    We'll be back on Star trek, tribbles and trill before you know it

    Are there Budgie caps on Star Trek?

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:04

    hehehe. autumn!

    Grrr

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:04

    just trill....

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:04

    we have x2 different rose on the go today. i have dry, christine, sweet.

    sweet rose is sooo nice.

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:04

    You'll need to supply your own drinks though (unnamed energy drink is one favourite around here, apparently; although rose seems to come up a lot as well.... ;-) )

    I'm on the Green King IPA. Wine tomorrow. Not sure what time I'll be back though.

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:04

    just trill....

    :D

  • Christine16/05/2009 at 00:05

    sweet rose is sooo nice.

    Yup. Dry is yeugh.

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:05

    sweet rose is sooo nice.

    Rose? Don't you get real wine in the UK?

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:05

    hehehe. autumn!

    that's a long time away... i mean like long time away. i'll be 18 in the autumn, i don't want to be 18, i'm happy being 17 :P

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:05

    Are there Budgie caps on Star Trek?

    They are not warped enough to limit budgies. Unless they did it on impulse

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:06

    that's a long time away... i mean like long time away. i'll be 18 in the autumn, i don't want to be 18, i'm happy being 17 :P

    You make me feel very old

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:06

    Rose? Don't you get real wine in the UK?

    rose is having a resurgence in the uk.

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:06

    Yup. Dry is yeugh.

    i agree. i had dry for the first time the other day at my friends house and wasn't too keen on it.

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:06

    They are not warped enough to limit budgies. Unless they did it on impulse

    :-) nice one :-)

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:06

    You make me feel very old

    9 years, i make it?

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 00:07

    I guess through twitter (if thats not a cliche...yet!) Following Joe Saward.. found his blog.. he mentioned you guys.. I followed the trail... And now I have arrived :)

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:07

    rose is having a resurgence in the uk.

    Bleah. Give me a Shiraz, Cabernet, Merlot..

  • Journeyer16/05/2009 at 00:07

    that's a long time away... i mean like long time away. i'll be 18 in the autumn, i don't want to be 18, i'm happy being 17 :P

    you remind me of that movie with zach efron and matthew perry. 17 again, is the name, i think?

  • Journeyer16/05/2009 at 00:07

    *zac efron. yeuch.

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:07

    that's a long time away... i mean like long time away. i'll be 18 in the autumn, i don't want to be 18, i'm happy being 17 :P

    you're b'day isn't on the wiki lou?

    we celebrated scott's 18th we have to live stream yours too...

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:07

    rose is having a resurgence in the uk.

    Mum and stepdad drink gallons, I'm sure of it.

  • Christine16/05/2009 at 00:07

    rose is having a resurgence in the uk.

    Also, I like it. Red is out of bounds for me as that drink that one overdoes things on for the first time.

    White I can deal with, but I prefer rose, so why not?

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:07

    You make me feel very old

    sorry :( i wasnt meaning 18 is old, i was meaning i don't want to be 18 because i means it will be my last year at school and the thought of uni scares me a little, lol

  • Journeyer16/05/2009 at 00:07

    I guess through twitter (if thats not a cliche...yet!) Following Joe Saward.. found his blog.. he mentioned you guys.. I followed the trail... And now I have arrived :)

    An Aside With Joe = Five Pints of Awesome

    :D

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:08

    I guess through twitter (if thats not a cliche...yet!) Following Joe Saward.. found his blog.. he mentioned you guys.. I followed the trail... And now I have arrived :)

    ahhh, we (hearts) joe.

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:08

    You make me feel very old

    Ha! You think you feel old.

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:08

    sorry :( i wasnt meaning 18 is old, i was meaning i don't want to be 18 because i means it will be my last year at school and the thought of uni scares me a little, lol

    I'm 18 and finish in 3 weeks......tell me about it!! ;)

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:08

    9 years, i make it?

    Exactly 50% more than Lou is prepared to admit to.

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:09

    we have x2 different rose on the go today. i have dry, christine, sweet.

    Currently the open bottle here is quite dry... Grolleau based

    Although its French so 'd'anjoi' is the terminology I should use... grape varieties being 'new world' (rolls eyes)

    I really can't get into sweet wine... apart from anything else its all horribly sulphur dioxided and I just end up with a stonking migraine two hours later so its not worth it except for the occasional exceptional Muscat...

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:09

    Yikes. I'm in with the kiddies. Better watch myself.

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:10

    Although its French so 'd'anjoi' is the terminology I should use... grape varieties being 'new world' (rolls eyes)

    Um. Huh?

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 00:10

    An Aside With Joe = Five Pints of Awesome

    Yeah, It is really good, i wish the TV companies would try to speak to journalists more, they have a far broader, and generally more interesting set of views on the sport than many of the team people they interview

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:10

    sorry :( i wasnt meaning 18 is old, i was meaning i don't want to be 18 because i means it will be my last year at school and the thought of uni scares me a little, lol

    Just think how you felt about today's exams yesterday and how much better you feel today. You have to remember those two feelings so that when you are nervous about something you think about the before and after.

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:10

    Yikes. I'm in with the kiddies. Better watch myself.

    At this time on a Friday night it's very difficult not to say f..

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:11

    you're b'day isn't on the wiki lou?

    it is.... i swear i put it there... you don't remember my birthday! it was last year in october! :(

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:11

    I'm 18 and finish in 3 weeks......tell me about it!! ;)

    the wiki says october??

  • Christine16/05/2009 at 00:12

    the wiki says october??

    Finish in three weeks not birthday in three.

  • Christine16/05/2009 at 00:12

    it is.... i swear i put it there... you don't remember my birthday! it was last year in october! :(

    Oh come on, he doesn't remember my birthday!

  • Journeyer16/05/2009 at 00:12

    Finish in three weeks not birthday in three.

    :D

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:13

    Finish in three weeks not birthday in three.

    yup, 19 in october.

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:13

    At this time on a Friday night it's very difficult not to say f..

    felipe?

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:13

    Oh come on, he doesn't remember my birthday!

    I don't have birthdays any more

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:13

    Oh come on, he doesn't remember my birthday!

    haha :D it makes me laugh that he remembers Scott's but doesn't remember mine even though it was on the Japanese GP.... and Alonso won... :P

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:13

    Bleah. Give me a Shiraz, Cabernet, Merlot..

    See my comment about 'new world' :-)

    We grow all those in Europe as well y'know :-) They just have estate names to go by :-D

    Mind you - there is a Fetzer Merlot that is dry to the point of puck and heavily oaked. And only *just* not a rose (as in its a very deep pink in sunlight). But it also runs at 14.5% so is not one that often makes it to this house ( and I'd only be drinking mouthfuls anyway atm, so it would be a waste of a bottle :-( )

    Rose port now sold in M&S btw the C's.....

  • Journeyer16/05/2009 at 00:14

    Yeah, It is really good, i wish the TV companies would try to speak to journalists more, they have a far broader, and generally more interesting set of views on the sport than many of the team people they interview

    But they're not perceived to be "movers and shakers" - you know how they like to speak to people who make the news. Only the hardcore fans (like you and me) know that a journalist knows waaaay more than what he actually writes.

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:15

    We grow all those in Europe as well y'know :-) They just have estate names to go by :-D

    Yes, I know us colonials are only pretending, but there are a few nice drops around.

  • Scott Woodwiss16/05/2009 at 00:16

    haha it makes me laugh that he remembers Scott's but doesn't remember mine even though it was on the Japanese GP.... and Alonso won...

    Ah that was a fun Sunday, last night as a "boy" hosting my own Podpanel. Only on SPC :D

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:16

    haha :D it makes me laugh that he remembers Scott's but doesn't remember mine even though it was on the Japanese GP.... and Alonso won... :P

    there's a live show where we celebrated his 18th. we need to do the same for everybody's 18th. it's the only we i remember... did we podcast it?

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:17

    Ah that was a fun Sunday, last night as a "boy" hosting my own Podpanel. Only on SPC :D

    ;)

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:18

    At this time on a Friday night it's very difficult not to say f..

    felipe?

    I'm trying to think of a complicated word beginning with 'f' which would make a good joke, so assume I wrote one here.

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:18

    there's a live show where we celebrated his 18th. we need to do the same for everybody's 18th. it's the only we i remember... did we podcast it?

    haha i've no idea if you mentioned it while recording, i was a little tired come whatever time that was. Just as long as you don't make me go on a panel on my birthday ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss16/05/2009 at 00:19

    I'm trying to think of a complicated word beginning with 'f' which would make a good joke, so assume I wrote one here.

    Fandango?

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:19

    I'm trying to think of a complicated word beginning with 'f' which would make a good joke, so assume I wrote one here.

    Actually that wouldn't make sense at all in the context of the other sentence so never mind.

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:20

    haha i've no idea if you mentioned it while recording, i was a little tired come whatever time that was. Just as long as you don't make me go on a panel on my birthday ;)

    i think you mensioned it whilst recording, because our birthdays were both in the same week

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:20

    Yes, I know us colonials are only pretending, but there are a few nice drops around.

    :-D

    I'm currently doing a) not too much alcohol so it has to count! and b) sticking to Europe for food/drink/etc (long story, nothing to do with motorsports) and pref. UK of that. So, re-discovering all sorts of European wines (new world wines tending to dominate when you sell the stuff and in restaurants, you end up knowing about them and not the things nearer to home... plus they cost less :-) ) and some interesting ones that didn't exist or were out of my price range the last time I seriously looked....

    Finding stuff without blood or bladders in it can be a pita with European stuff though :-(

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:21

    i was a little tired come whatever time that was.

    Tired? or 'Tired'?

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:21

    food miles?

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:21

    Finding stuff without blood or bladders in it can be a pita with European stuff though :-(

    Eewww

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:22

    haha i've no idea if you mentioned it while recording, i was a little tired come whatever time that was. Just as long as you don't make me go on a panel on my birthday ;)

    How can anyone make you go on a show?

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:22

    It's 1:21am on Saturday 16th May 2009 and i'm listening to Giggles "stand by LewHam"

    Today is going to be an wierd day

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 00:22

    But they're not perceived to be "movers and shakers" - you know how they like to speak to people who make the news. Only the hardcore fans (like you and me) know that a journalist knows waaaay more than what he actually writes.

    Yeah, its happening a bit more with football and cricket writers getting some airtime. I guess it may go that way with f1 too, until then the revolution will not be televised, it will be sidepodcast

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:22

    food miles?

    Among other things...

    Lets just say that there is a book in it, so I'm supposed to play it close to ones chest, sigh!

    Although as I currently have one thing that I'm about to give up on the publisher and DIY it I may say sod it about this one as well... but I'm not 'known' enough to do any toy/pram like stuff :-(

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:23

    Fandango?

    :D

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:23

    Tired? or 'Tired'?

    i'd had about 2 hours sleep and had been up since about 4 am or something silly to watch the gp. so yeah i was tired. lol

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:24

    How can anyone make you go on a show?

    haha some people are very good at getting others to agree to be on shows, and host them and such.

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:24

    Lets just say that there is a book in it, so I'm supposed to play it close to ones chest, sigh!

    Aha. Stick with it.

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:25

    Finding stuff without blood or bladders in it can be a pita with European stuff though :-(

    Eewww

    Well, they have to fine it with something..... they don't 'call' it blood or bladders :-D

    Rose is a sensible choice in that it doesn't generally need fining though :-)

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:26

    Fandango?

    Felicitations

    ooo - to go right back in the SPC way back machine...

    Fibonacci

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:26

    haha some people are very good at getting others to agree to be on shows, and host them and such.

    You tell me who forced you and I will sort him out

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:26

    How can anyone make you go on a show?

    kathi can...

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:27

    You tell me who forced you and I will sort him out

    this i' gotta see :D

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:27

    the revolution will not be televised, it will be sidepodcast

    sidepodcast (hearts) nick ;)

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:27

    sidepodcast (hearts) nick ;)

    in the good books already? ;)

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:28

    Well, off to renovate. See ya folks

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:29

    Well, off to renovate. See ya folks

    Seee ya!

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:29

    ooo - to go right back in the SPC way back machine...

    And Funicular

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:29

    You tell me who forced you and I will sort him out

    hahaaha well... as you know, there is only really one person who gets blamed for lots of things around here....

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:29

    kathi can...

    I can't do anything about Kathi psychic skyping anyone

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 00:30

    in the good books already? ;)

    Am I winning?

    What do you mean its not a contest¬?

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:30

    Right, sleepy time i do believe.

    Night all

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:30

    What do you mean its not a contest¬?

    :D

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:30

    What do you mean its not a contest¬?

    Oh dont start that again, you won't beat journier

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:31

    Bye Paul

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:31

    Defenestration

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:31

    in the good books already? ;)

    that's a pretty good quote for one's first day.

    i think he's been practising offline.

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:32

    Well, off to renovate. See ya folks

    don't tell me... you're not here?

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:32

    Right, sleepy time i do believe.

    see ya jon.

  • Jon Waldock16/05/2009 at 00:32

    i think he's been practising offline.

    it's a conspiracy :P

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:32

    don't tell me... you're not here?

    are you still keeping that list Mr C :P

  • paul (oz)16/05/2009 at 00:32

    don't tell me... you're not here?

    Exactly. Shhh!

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:32

    Defenestration

    Another Mac fanboy?

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:33

    are you still keeping that list Mr C :P

    erm... yes?

    ...

    ...

    no :(

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:34

    Bye Jon.

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:34

    are you still keeping that list Mr C :P

    erm... yes?

    ...

    ...

    no :(

    awww i'm sure we'll all muddle through without the list...... somehow....

    :P

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:34

    Defenestration

    Another Mac fanboy?

    Nicely done, but no :-)

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 00:34

    There is an offline?

  • lou16/05/2009 at 00:36

    ok sleep time for me now, it's been a very long day and i'm not sure how i'm still awake. night all! xx

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:37

    see ya lou. take care.

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:38

    ok sleep time for me now, it's been a very long day and i'm not sure how i'm still awake. night all! xx

    Neither are we. Night.

  • littlepurplegoth16/05/2009 at 00:40

    There is an offline?

    That depends on whether you have a 'mobile' device to go with your home broadband.... ;-)

    Bed now here as well... ttfn you lovely people, dream of the birds....

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 00:42

    Goodnight Sleepers :)

    hope to see you on here again soon

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:44

    There is an offline?

    It's a lie. Don't let anyone convince you that it exists

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 00:44

    ok sleep time for me now, it's been a very long day and i'm not sure how i'm still awake. night all! xx

    Good night Lou and everyone else who is leaving

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:45

    Goodnight Sleepers :)

    hope to see you on here again soon

    nick, you're a pro already.

    am guessing you're a night owl too?

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 00:45

    Goodnight Sleepers :)

    Night all who are leaving.

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 00:51

    am guessing you're a night owl too?

    Yes, although im trying to avoid the prospect of seing the early signs of sunrise... its really depressing!!!!

  • me16/05/2009 at 00:56

    Yes, although im trying to avoid the prospect of seing the early signs of sunrise... its really depressing!!!!

    yeah, we did that last week. i just checked though, and it's still dark. phew.

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 00:59

    I did take it too far at one point with a heavy workload Uni... bedtime was 2pm and waking up in time for the news at 10.

    Never again!

  • me16/05/2009 at 01:07

    I did take it too far at one point with a heavy workload Uni... bedtime was 2pm and waking up in time for the news at 10.

    i can't trump that. trying to think of any time i came close.

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 01:07

    sidepodcast is 24/7

  • me16/05/2009 at 01:08

    sidepodcast is 24/7

    it's 2am and... she's still awake!

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 01:09

    it's 2am and... she's still awake!

    how??? why???

  • Christine16/05/2009 at 01:10

    it's 2am and... she's still awake!

    ]

    Drunk!!

  • me16/05/2009 at 01:11

    how??? why???

    don't ask.

  • Christine16/05/2009 at 01:11

    I had better write a daily post. Good luck me.

  • Amy16/05/2009 at 01:12

    sidepodsleepdeprivation strikes again!

  • me16/05/2009 at 01:12

    sidepodsleepdeprivation strikes again!

    amy!

    morning.

  • Christine16/05/2009 at 01:13

    sidepodsleepdeprivation strikes again!

    Amy!!

  • Amy16/05/2009 at 01:13

    morning.

    its before noon on a saturday. this is a strange and new concept.

  • me16/05/2009 at 01:14

    its before noon on a saturday. this is a strange and new concept.

    wow. good sleeps?

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 01:15

    ]

    Drunk!!

    ha :-)

  • Amy16/05/2009 at 01:15

    wow. good sleeps?

    fell asleep around 8.30pm, woops. Now I'm catching up on hundreds of comments from yesterday since I slept through F1 vs F1 airport meeting.

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 01:17

    Hi Amy

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 01:19

    sidepodsleepdeprivation strikes again!

    The night shift is here

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 01:19

    its before noon on a saturday. this is a strange and new concept.

    You lie. Saturday morning doesn't exist

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 01:20

    fell asleep around 8.30pm, woops. Now I'm catching up on hundreds of comments from yesterday since I slept through F1 vs F1 airport meeting.

    Are you feeling OK? 8:30

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 01:21

    Isnt morning the thing that happens before its time to sleep?

  • Amy16/05/2009 at 01:21

    You lie. Saturday morning doesn't exist

    I don't recall ever seeing it before. I might be dreaming.

  • Amy16/05/2009 at 01:22

    Are you feeling OK? 8:30

    i think it was the all-night-ebay trawl the night before catching up with me.

  • me16/05/2009 at 01:25

    Isnt morning the thing that happens before its time to sleep?

    christine says "no".

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 01:26
  • Amy16/05/2009 at 01:28

    old comments are making me want to bake a cake. I didn't plan on leaving the house today, but I might have go to buy ingredients.

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 01:28

    christine says "no".

    i guess thats an alternate view...

    Good morning Amy, so far my arrival has only driven people to bed, so long live the upturn!

  • me16/05/2009 at 01:29

    a somewhat later than intended blog post

    christ. all of that is happening this weekend?

  • Amy16/05/2009 at 01:29

    Good morning Amy, so far my arrival has only driven people to bed, so long live the upturn!

    normally its me who shows up just as everyone goes to sleep, so well done!

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 01:30

    christ. all of that is happening this weekend?

    Surprising isn't it. This is one reason the post is later than intended..

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 01:32

    i think it was the all-night-ebay trawl the night before catching up with me.

    Did you get many lots?

  • Amy16/05/2009 at 01:34

    Did you get many lots?

    13 :D

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 01:48

    a somewhat later than intended blog post

    I'm not one to nitpick, and I rarely watch the IRL, but Indy Bump day is this sunday, and its probably my favourite part of the whole event.Its a bit like old F1 Qualifying

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 01:51

    I'm not one to nitpick, and I rarely watch the IRL, but Indy Bump day is this sunday, and its probably my favourite part of the whole event.Its a bit like old F1 Qualifying

    It's in the talkie bit at the bottom. I didn't include it as an event like I did with Pole Day. All the talk is that three cars will fail to qualify on Saturday. Only one or two of those will get fast enough to bump on Sunday. Not something I'm going to watch for six hours.

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 01:57

    I haven't really been following it, but i do remember it being really good a couple of years back... probably up at night with nothing else on and a few beers later it seemed like the best thing ever!

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 01:58

    Bedtime. May stick my nose in when I get up but will probably be rushing to get to the barbers before he shuts his door at 11.25am (yet he still stretches the four waiting people to 1pm). Then fingers crossed some golf if it isn't raining, so back here in the evening.

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 01:59

    I haven't really been following it, but i do remember it being really good a couple of years back... probably up at night with nothing else on and a few beers later it seemed like the best thing ever!

    It probably was good when there were more cars. And we thought the ChampCar merger would help car counts!

  • Pat W16/05/2009 at 02:00

    btw i expect to have a wine hangover sunday a.m. so i'm not judging at all :-)

  • Nick16/05/2009 at 02:01

    well their is a silm could be some red ones soon, along with the others...

    g'night¬

  • Steven Roy16/05/2009 at 02:26

    Indy qualifying is odd. Tomas Scheckter has signed up now to try to qualify

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75334

  • Alianora La Canta16/05/2009 at 12:25

    There must be something else to talk about, this is silly. {Comment #536}

    How about "How Sidepodcast would govern F1 if Mr and Mrs C were appointed joint FIA Presidents and could do whatever they liked"?