Here we are, Monday once again, and the Le Mans weekend is over. It wasn't the result I was hoping for, naturally, but it was still a good race, and a really fun thing to experience with all our Sidepodfriends (coined by Jeremy). Here are some of the things we're talking about:

  • Wurz won the race in Le Mans over the weekend, with my team of Franck and Bourdais coming in a close second. They led a lot of the way but couldn't make it stick through to the end. Still, even though Franck looked miserable afterwards, he must be happy to have help stop the Audi run of victories.
  • Despite the fact they haven't managed to get on the entry list for 2010 as yet, Lola still aren't quitting their F1 dreams just yet. The boss says the decision will be made on Tuesday, which seems odd to me. Either you're going to wait for the next Max deadline, or you're going to pull out now. What's so special about Tuesday?
  • Finally, anyone using the Safari web browser may spot an addition to the Live Commenting Live... Thing - a checkbox to activate an alert when new comments come in. At the moment, it defaults to on, which means you'll hear a maraca sound each time there are new comments. We will default it to off, but are just going through the motions of testing it out at the moment. Let us know what you think.

That'll do it for now. Monday means back to work which means we're already on the road to Silverstone, not literally of course. Let us know if you are making preparations for the big trip though, and we'll listen jealously. I'll see you in the comments.

706 responses

  • Bassano Clapper14/06/2009 at 23:23

    At the moment, it defaults to on, which means you’ll hear a maraca sound each time there are new comments. We will default it to off, but are just going through the motions of testing it out at the moment. Let us know what you think.

    Still think it sounds like scissors but I like it

  • Pat W14/06/2009 at 23:24

    Very quiet tonight... I've been popping in and out during revision and both here and Twitter are practically dead. Recuperating from Le Mans, I think!

  • Pat W14/06/2009 at 23:25

    Still think it sounds like scissors but I like it

    I can't even hear it.

  • Pat W14/06/2009 at 23:26

    Can't see the checkbox either, for that matter... although I have found the new Navigation section at the bottom, I like that.

  • Scott Woodwiss14/06/2009 at 23:27

    OK, all questions for Fernando and Nelson, please post them here:

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/06/question-time.html

    I look forward to seeing what you guys can come up with ;)

  • Aitch14/06/2009 at 23:28

    At the moment, it defaults to on, which means you’ll hear a maraca sound each time there are new comments. We will default it to off, but are just going through the motions of testing it out at the moment. Let us know what you think.

    When I first heard it I thought it sounded like a beer being opened, mmmm beer.

  • Scott Woodwiss14/06/2009 at 23:30

    Oh and it's also a possibility that I might get to meet Anthony Davidson and David Coulthard too, so any questions for them would be welcome also :)

  • Bassano Clapper14/06/2009 at 23:33

    Can't see the checkbox either, for that matter... although I have found the new Navigation section at the bottom, I like that.

    Top Right Hand corner, below refresh comments

  • Scott Woodwiss14/06/2009 at 23:35

    That'll do it for now. Monday means back to work which means we're already on the road to Silverstone, not literally of course. Let us know if you are making preparations for the big trip though, and we'll listen jealously. I'll see you in the comments.

    Well, you know how it is, Renault F1 and all that... ;)

  • Pat W14/06/2009 at 23:35

    Oh and it's also a possibility that I might get to meet Anthony Davidson and David Coulthard too, so any questions for them would be welcome also :)

    Excellent :-)

    I'm not really the 'askey questions' type, will have a think during the week

  • Pat W14/06/2009 at 23:35

    Top Right Hand corner, below refresh comments

    Not there..

  • Bassano Clapper14/06/2009 at 23:37

    Not there..

    Are you using IE by any chance?

  • Pat W14/06/2009 at 23:38

    Are you using IE by any chance?

    FF 3.0.11

  • Bassano Clapper14/06/2009 at 23:39

    FF 3.0.11

    Hmm

    [tests]

    Looks like it's a Safari thing at the moment

  • Steven Roy14/06/2009 at 23:42

    Either you're going to wait for the next Max deadline, or you're going to pull out now. What's so special about Tuesday

    If they announce on Tuesday that they are canning their F1 program it weakens Max's hand. I assume the statement is the first stage in negotiating the first available slot.

  • Pat W14/06/2009 at 23:45

    Looks like it's a Safari thing at the moment

    Righto. Perhaps when they see this the Daily post could be updated to reflect that because others may expect to see something that's not there (even though it is only in testing stage).

    Must say though, congrats on the Daily appearing at 12:01am, I think that's the earliest I've ever seen it :-)

  • Scott Woodwiss14/06/2009 at 23:46

    Good to see I've got my first question from Bassano. Thanks. :)

  • Pat W14/06/2009 at 23:58

    Heading off. Catch you tomorrow, for a short while.

  • Bassano Clapper14/06/2009 at 23:58

    Night Pat

  • Nick15/06/2009 at 00:01

    Night Pat

    Must say though, congrats on the Daily appearing at 12:01am, I think that's the earliest I've ever seen it :-)

    Automated post?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 00:02

    Automated post?

    Yeah I was gonna ask that. Always seems to be at 12:01am. Do you write it beforehand and then just set it to autopost at that time every day?

  • Nick15/06/2009 at 00:05

    Yeah I was gonna ask that. Always seems to be at 12:01am. Do you write it beforehand and then just set it to autopost at that time every day?

    They could have been replaced by robots and we would never know...

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 00:07

    They could have been replaced by robots and we would never know...

    Well, until Sunday anyway

    Or if Mr C started capitalising in his posts

  • Nick15/06/2009 at 00:10

    Well, until Sunday anyway

    the conspiracy grows: They could be using recycled soundbites from old shows rearranged to sound like new content, and do the same with the video

    dododododododododoo!

  • me15/06/2009 at 00:50

    Perhaps when they see this the Daily post could be updated to reflect that because others may expect to see something that’s not there (even though it is only in testing stage).

    fixed now. apologies.

    Must say though, congrats on the Daily appearing at 12:01am, I think that’s the earliest I’ve ever seen it

    i think christine schedules it for that time every day. but the wordpress in built timer is shonky, meaning it appears any time around that period.

    we did upgrade to the latest version of WP last week though, so maybe they fixed something?

  • me15/06/2009 at 00:52

    They could have been replaced by robots and we would never know…

    i wish we had been. have a really busy week ahead work wise, so may hardly be around before fp1 on friday.

    with any luck we'll miss the new fia deadline too.

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 00:59

    morning all. Feeling suprisingly awake today and work is going quickly. Only 5 hours til home time!

  • me15/06/2009 at 01:03

    morning all. Feeling suprisingly awake today and work is going quickly. Only 5 hours til home time!

    is that because you didn't stay up until daybreak watching a panel this week?

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 01:08

    Doesn't sound very appropriate here

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 01:08

    i went to bed at 4am so live shows would have made no difference :D

  • me15/06/2009 at 01:09

    Doesn't sound very appropriate here

    already gone ;)

  • me15/06/2009 at 01:09

    i went to bed at 4am so live shows would have made no difference :D

    you scare me :)

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 01:19

    i think i am decreasing my life span. Aiming for an early night tonight, i may leave the laptop out of my bedroom

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 01:51

    morning all. Feeling suprisingly awake today and work is going quickly. Only 5 hours til home time!

    Amy are you like me, get to Real-Time at work?

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:10

    Is anyone awake out there, jeez, you'd think that everyone spent 24hours watching a race or something

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:15

    Is anyone awake out there, jeez, you'd think that everyone spent 24hours watching a race or something

    hehe. hey joe. am still here, how are ya?

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:16

    Doing good, listening to Windtunnel, a racing talk show on Speed TV. It seems the NASCAR boys are p***** at each other again, blah, blah, blah.

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:17

    But I was proud to hear the Star Spangled Banner played at Le Mans. Hope to hear it at an F1 podium in the next few years.

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:18

    Doing good, listening to Windtunnel, a racing talk show on Speed TV. It seems the NASCAR boys are p***** at each other again, blah, blah, blah.

    what are they upset about?

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:20

    Kyle Busch said something about how Dale Jr.'s fans are crazy and he smashed a guitar that was a trophy for winning a race. Busch is very polarizing.

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:21

    Kyle Busch said something about how Dale Jr.'s fans are crazy and he smashed a guitar that was a trophy for winning a race. Busch is very polarizing.

    yikes!

    i've only caught a couple of windtunnels, but dave seems like a good chap.

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:23

    i've only caught a couple of windtunnels, but dave seems like a good chap.

    He is a good dude. He also does a 20 min segment on our local sports-talk radio show on fridays. I plan my day around those 20 minutes. The local radio guys actually ask him about F1, quite odd for around here.

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:25

    He is a good dude. He also does a 20 min segment on our local sports-talk radio show on fridays. I plan my day around those 20 minutes. The local radio guys actually ask him about F1, quite odd for around here.

    now that is something i would listen to as a podcast. there's nowhere to download it is there?

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:27

    now that is something i would listen to as a podcast. there's nowhere to download it is there?

    No, you'd have to wade through 4 hours of baseball, football (the real football), basketball to get to Dave, so it wouldn't be worth it. There is a Windtunnel podcast, but it's only a 5-10 min. segment

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:28

    No, you'd have to wade through 4 hours of baseball, football (the real football), basketball to get to Dave, so it wouldn't be worth it. There is a Windtunnel podcast, but it's only a 5-10 min. segment

    yeah, that's how i've caught his previous work.

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:29

    If you don't get SpeedTV, there's an additional 30 min on SpeedTV.com, which is what I'm listening to now, well, it's over now

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:31

    If you don't get SpeedTV, there's an additional 30 min on SpeedTV.com, which is what I'm listening to now, well, it's over now

    nice one. is there no replay?

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:33

    I'm not sure, I'll check back on the site tommorrow and tell you.

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:34

    I'm not sure, I'll check back on the site tommorrow and tell you.

    cheers. tis probs for the best, i should be working anyhow :)

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:36

    well, they won't have info up about a replay until later in the day and I've got about 26 minutes till I hit the rack.

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 02:36

    working? At 3.30am? Mr C, you scare me!

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:37

    working? At 3.30am? Mr C, you scare me!

    hehe. like i said, busy week.

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:37

    working? At 3.30am? Mr C, you scare me!

    Is this really work?

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:38

    Is this really work?

    am multitasking. sidepodcast is purely a hobby.

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:39

    You're Mr. C? I must say the last podcast where Lukeh came out with F11, "It goes to eleven", had me laughing outloud

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:43

    You're Mr. C? I must say the last podcast where Lukeh came out with F11, "It goes to eleven", had me laughing outloud

    i am. that were me giggling :)

    the thought of it is still making me laugh now!

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:44

    the thought of it is still making me laugh now!

    I had to go to youtube and watch that clip from Spinal Tap. Lukeh set that up perfectly and we all walked right into the trap

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:48

    Just found out, you can go to itunes and download full podcasts of Windtunnel with Dave Depain, plus the 30 minutes after the show.

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:49

    Just found out, you can go to itunes and download full podcasts of Windtunnel with Dave Depain, plus the 30 minutes after the show.

    that's gonna hurt my productivity!

    i'll look now, ta.

  • Joe in Fla15/06/2009 at 02:50

    that's gonna hurt my productivity!

    Call it research. Talk to you later. Out here

  • me15/06/2009 at 02:50

    Call it research. Talk to you later. Out here

    night sir.

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 05:58

    Nobody had used Sidepodfriends before? Wow. It reminds me of Super Friends which makes me think of Super Happy Sidepodtime. Which is tomorrow if a certain man has remembered a certain occasion. I don't mean (capital M) Me. Cryptic enough for you?

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 06:25

    Cryptic enough for you?

    Yes

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 07:40

    Hey everyone Good morning

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 07:41

    Someone has written Andy Murray a song. Not as good as the Heikki song though.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 08:50

    Nobody had used Sidepodfriends before? Wow. It reminds me of Super Friends which makes me think of Super Happy Sidepodtime. Which is tomorrow if a certain man has remembered a certain occasion. I don't mean (capital M) Me. Cryptic enough for you?

    im very confused

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 08:55

    im very confused

    It's fair to say that Mr C is likely to be in trouble tomorrow. Which won't make a change, really.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 08:55

    It's fair to say that Mr C is likely to be in trouble tomorrow. Which won't make a change, really.

    Nope :D

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 08:57

    It's fair to say that Mr C is likely to be in trouble tomorrow. Which won't make a change, really.

    ooh I know what the answer is!

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 08:57

    ooh I know what the answer is!

    booo, i have no idea. i thought i did, but i know that i'm wrong

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 09:02

    whats mr c done?

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 09:02

    whats mr c done?

    Nothing yet.

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 09:02

    right?

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:03

    What exactly is superhappy sidepodtime?

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:03

    Nothing yet.

    exactly

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:09

    What exactly is superhappy sidepodtime?

    That's just my crappy humour. It's a play on Japanese/English translation where the Japanese name things with Super or Happy on the front.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:11

    That's just my crappy humour. It's a play on Japanese/English translation where the Japanese name things with Super or Happy on the front.

    now i'm even more confused!! I shall just have to wait for tomorrow for Mr C to stitch himself up

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 09:22

    now i'm even more confused!! I shall just have to wait for tomorrow for Mr C to stitch himself up

    It may or may not have something to do with a Milky Bar.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:23

    It may or may not have something to do with a Milky Bar.

    does this have something to do with bribing Christine?

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 09:24

    Fota having ANOTHER meeting today in healthrow

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:25

    Sorry Jon, it's a very important day tomorrow but I'm under nda (non disclosure assumption). I predict multiple mentions of milky bar.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:26

    Sorry Jon, it's a very important day tomorrow but I'm under nda (non disclosure assumption). I predict multiple mentions of milky bar.

    gutted. ;)

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 09:26

    Why whats happening tomorrow

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:27

    Why whats happening tomorrow

    we have no idea!

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:27

    have just deleted the incorrect top gear start date comment. am thinking if we remove comments that 100% incorrect it may encourage peeps to check facts more.

    thoughts?

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 09:28

    true

    sorry about that It was sent to my on facebook, Mr C do you and Christine have facebook or is there a Sidepodcast user/group

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:28

    Fota having ANOTHER meeting today in healthrow

    I predict cake

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:28

    It's fair to say that Mr C is likely to be in trouble tomorrow. Which won't make a change, really.

    i haven't forgotten!!

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:28

    sorry about that It was sent to my on facebook, Mr C do you and Christine have facebook or is there a Sidepodcast user/group

    search Sidepodcast, theres a group

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 09:29

    i haven't forgotten!!

    Today you haven't ;)

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:31

    sorry about that It was sent to my on facebook

    not singling you out chris. happens a lot.

    am just thinking if we know something to be absolutely incorrect, it seems reasonable to remove it.

    however, there's also an argument for simply printing a correction.

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:31

    i haven't forgotten!!

    Today you haven't ;)

    in fairness, jeremy reminded me.

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 09:31

    in fairness, jeremy reminded me.

    set the wiki as your home page ;)

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:32

    thoughts?

    Agreed. You're in charge, run it your way. I wonder how many times the word 'transparency' will appear if this is discussed further. :P

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:32

    set the wiki as your home page ;)

    :P

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 09:32

    however, there's also an argument for simply printing a correction.

    I think it really depends on the conversation it sparks afterwards. If it is a simple - this is happening, no it's not. Fine.

    If it becomes a topic, maybe not.

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 09:33

    in fairness, jeremy reminded me.

    Jeremy, looks like you've got a job for tomorrow as well :)

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:34

    Jeremy, looks like you've got a job for tomorrow as well :)

    I'm helping! :D

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:34

    Jeremy, looks like you've got a job for tomorrow as well :)

    oooooh, i've got it now

    *Whistles like nothings happened(*

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:35

    Agreed. You're in charge, run it your way. I wonder how many times the word 'transparency' will appear if this is discussed further. :P

    there is that i guess.

    it also occurred to me that if someone googled "when does top gear start", this conversation might appear in the search results with the incorrect date. it would then be up to the person reading to check all subsequent comments for corrections.

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:35

    *Whistles like nothings happened(*

    milky bar?

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:36

    milky bar?

    don't screw it up ;)

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:36

    I think it really depends on the conversation it sparks afterwards. If it is a simple - this is happening, no it's not. Fine.

    hmm. good point. we give it some more thought.

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:47

    hmm. good point. we give it some more thought.

    No. I think just delete it once you're sure it's wrong and explain the reason why. Firm but fair.

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 09:51

    Woah, what's going on here?

    Are these stories you're interested in, Chris? Because we prefer people to discuss the stories and their take on them, give a bit of opinion, rather than just spam us with headlines.

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:51

    30-year-old reigning GP2 champion Giorgio Pantano said at the weekend that he is hoping for a Campos seat in F1. He drove for the team in GP2 in 2007.

    I hope someone does give Giorgio 'Pants' Pantano a go in F1

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 09:52

    No. I think just delete it once you're sure it's wrong and explain the reason why. Firm but fair.

    Agreed, if it was just missing, that might cause some confusion

    Hello folks

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 09:52

    I hope someone does give Giorgio 'Pants' Pantano a go in F1

    He was in it before, wasn't he? I remember a cake when he left.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:52

    I hope someone does give Giorgio 'Pants' Pantano a go in F1

    I want them too just so he'll stop moaning :D

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 09:53

    He was in it before, wasn't he? I remember a cake when he left.

    Actually, I think I'm thinking of someone else, but was he any good in F1 before?

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 09:53

    I hope someone does give Giorgio 'Pants' Pantano a go in F1

    But will they be able to pronounce his name properly yet? :)

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 09:55

    Actually, I think I'm thinking of someone else, but was he any good in F1 before?

    I heard he was complaining that nobody from an F1 team called after he won the GP2 championship.

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 09:55

    He was in it before, wasn't he? I remember a cake when he left.

    If theres not a cake in Silverstone I might panic. I didn't see one in Turkey.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 09:56

    Actually, I think I'm thinking of someone else, but was he any good in F1 before?

    Didn't fair too well in Jordan back in 2004. Wasn't their finest hour, to be fair

    Replaced by Timo Glock

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:57

    Because we prefer people to discuss the stories and their take on them, give a bit of opinion, rather than just spam us with headlines.

    yikes, we're having a good day today. the delete button is on fire this morning.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 09:58

    Oh man, Radio Le Mans have added their whole Le Mans coverage to iTunes! I haven't finished last years yet, i feel some sleepless nights coming on..

  • me15/06/2009 at 09:58

    Oh man, Radio Le Mans have added their whole Le Mans coverage to iTunes! I haven't finished last years yet, i feel some sleepless nights coming on..

    yippee. gotta find those shoutouts later.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:00

    yippee. gotta find those shoutouts later.

    I found my favourite bit from last year....

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sorrytointeruptmyself-mp3

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:01

    I found my favourite bit from last year....

    hehehe. i remember that too!

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:01

    hehehe. i remember that too!

    that bit made my whoooole weekend

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:11

    Oh man, Radio Le Mans have added their whole Le Mans coverage to iTunes! I haven't finished last years yet, i feel some sleepless nights coming on..

    Have you got URL for the subscription feed? Never have been able to access the iTunes store to do a search.

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:12

    Have you got URL for the subscription feed? Never have been able to access the iTunes store to do a search.

    how do you survive in a world without an itunes store?

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:13

    how do you survive in a world without an itunes store?

    Must be a quiet place

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:13

    how do you survive in a world without an itunes store?

    however much i dont like apple ;) itunes podcast store is just :D

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:14

    how do you survive in a world without an itunes store?

    Its a bit frustrating - we even have a store now in SA but whwn visiting it just crashes iTunes (the case in both Wiindows and Macs)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:14

    Have you got URL for the subscription feed? Never have been able to access the iTunes store to do a search.

    http://www.radiolemans.com/

    click on Le Mans 24 hours

    then on the right hand side they have all the podcasts

  • Nick15/06/2009 at 10:16

    Morning all!

    how do you survive in a world without an itunes store?

    I survive. Itunes almost destroyed my computer 6 years or so ago, and its not coming back!

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:17

    I survive. Itunes almost destroyed my computer 6 years or so ago, and its not coming back!

    but what about all those lovely tv programs and films and music and podcasts and... well... everything really?

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 10:17

    how do you survive in a world without an itunes store?

    Something called a 'record shop'

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 10:17

    how do you survive in a world without an itunes store?

    he lives in a happy place called 'i have more un-spent money than you'

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:18

    but what about all those lovely tv programs and films and music and podcasts and... well... everything really?

    its only useful for podcasts, i buy music off Amazon aswell

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:18

    Something called a 'record shop'

    OUTSIDE?

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 10:18

    Something called a 'record shop'

    What's a record?

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:18

    OUTSIDE?

    you went outside yesterday ;)

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 10:18

    OUTSIDE?

    and Online. :D

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 10:19

    What's a record?

    carbon fibre looking laser disc?

  • Nick15/06/2009 at 10:19

    but what about all those lovely tv programs and films and music and podcasts and... well... everything really?

    Well there is Hulu and iplayer for tv shows, and blockbuster for films. & i'm pretty 'meh' about music :D

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:19

    What's a record?

    Something Roy Castle and Norris McWhirter used to get involved in

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:20

    carbon fibre looking laser disc?

    a what now?

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:20

    a what now?

    A massive DVD that had to be flipped over :D

  • Nick15/06/2009 at 10:21

    carbon fibre looking laser disc?

    ooh i have a laser disk player somewhere! i miss them!

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 10:21

    carbon fibre looking laser disc?

    An actual thing? Ooh *shudders* think of the clutter.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 10:21

    carbon fibre looking laser disc?

    ooh i have a laser disk player somewhere! i miss them!

    Still have mine and use it.... Best version of Star Wars original trilogy is only on the LD. :D

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:21

    A massive DVD that had to be flipped over :D

    in the middle of star wars. common sense went walkabouts at philips r&d that day.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:21

    http://www.radiolemans.com/

    click on Le Mans 24 hours

    then on the right hand side they have all the podcasts

    Thanks Jon

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:22

    Something called a 'record shop'

    You guess it - I buy CDs!

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:22

    in the middle of star wars. common sense went walkabouts at philips r&d that day.

    "Laserdisc was the prevalent rental video medium in Hong Kong during the 1990s."

    Searches for 'gob, aghast' smiley

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:23

    Searches for 'gob, aghast' smiley

    hehe.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:24

    its only useful for podcasts, i buy music off Amazon aswell

    I use iTunes for subscriptions - but as I am now using Linux (even more than OS X) I have discovered gPodder as a very good alternative!

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 10:24

    "Laserdisc was the prevalent rental video medium in Hong Kong during the 1990s."

    Was used a lot in Karaoke too

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:24

    Was used a lot in Karaoke too

    Well, that's never to be encouraged

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:24

    f1wolf has pulled together a monday morning quiz for y'all.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:25

    he lives in a happy place called 'i have more un-spent money than you'

    Not sure - I have rather little unspent money!

  • F1Wolf15/06/2009 at 10:26

    "Laserdisc was the prevalent rental video medium in Hong Kong during the 1990s."

    Oh yea, those things were all over place when I moved to Hong Kong. Size of the old LP vinyl record but it played movies :-)

  • F1Wolf15/06/2009 at 10:26

    f1wolf has pulled together a monday morning quiz for y'all.

    thanks for the plug, I am away from my base, enroute for the F1 weekend :-)

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:27

    thanks for the plug, I am away from my base, enroute for the F1 weekend :-)

    have a good one sir!

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:27

    Size of the old LP vinyl record but it played movies :-)

    Didn't realise they used analogue video. No widescreen either

  • F1Wolf15/06/2009 at 10:28

    have a good one sir!

    should be good one, managed to get passes to paddock club for Fri and Sat :-)

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 10:29

    f1wolf has pulled together a monday morning quiz for y'all.

    Wow. I am really bad at quizzes.

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 10:31

    Wow. I am really bad at quizzes.

    1/10. I. Am. Awesome.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:32

    Surprised myself with 7

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 10:32

    1/10. I. Am. Awesome.

    Ooh, okay. I am better than Amy at quizzes :)

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 10:32

    Ooh, okay. I am better than Amy at quizzes :)

    theres a reason I sleep when the PF one is on ;)

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:34

    Have noticed that FIA has been getting into even more trouble with the teams.

    During the Turkish GP - Donnelly was going around from team to team telling them to abandon the FOTA stance and sign up for 2010. Very inappropriate if true.

    Source: http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/

    Also the way N Technology's submission was handled...

    Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76220

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:35

    The Donelly thing was mentioned yesterday

    I still don't know how Max gets away with it

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:37

    1/10. I. Am. Awesome.

    3/10 for moi. That beats Statistics revision, although i'll do better in that quiz than i will in my Stats exam. boo ya

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:38

    Have noticed that FIA has been getting into even more trouble with the teams.

    It's either all going to go well, and everyones going to be happy, or its all going to hit the fan.

    I know which one i'm voting for.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:38

    The Donelly thing was mentioned yesterday

    Sorry for repeating - It is just so unprofessional. I think FIA has under-estimated the resolve of the teams this time. But that megalomaniac Max has now lost his marbles- he needs to retire before more damage is done.

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:38
  • Nick15/06/2009 at 10:39

    1/10. I. Am. Awesome.

    7/10

    i didnt have a clue, im lucky

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 10:40

    love this post from fourstar.

    Me too... Have commented.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:40

    I know which one i'm voting for.

    I will vote for anything that sees Max retire!

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 10:41

    love this post from fourstar.

    I am not signing up to comment but clearly it is always best to be first to choose a chocolate from a box of Roses or Milk Tray :D

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:42

    I will vote for anything that sees Max retire!

    First person to say #maxout will get a swift kick from me ;)

  • me15/06/2009 at 10:42

    First person to say #maxout will get a swift kick from me ;)

    yay!

  • Nick15/06/2009 at 10:43

    First person to say #maxout will get a swift kick from me ;)

    Sending nuts and bolts sounded like waaay more fun than a twitter campaign

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 10:44

    Sending nuts and bolts sounded like waaay more fun than a twitter campaign

    Hear, hear!

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 10:45

    First person to say #maxout will get a swift kick from me ;)

    Hopefully FOTA will not get outmaxed!

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:51

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8097368.stm

    Yeeeeey :D

  • Nick15/06/2009 at 10:53

    RIght i'm off for a day or so, got some corporate hospitality to enjoy which is always nice, but i will miss the cricket tonight, which has put me in 2 minds about the whole thing... grrrr

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 10:53

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8097368.stm

    Yeeeeey :D

    I was at the recording. ;)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 10:54

    I was at the recording. ;)

    no way!!!

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 10:55

    no way!!!

    Theatre in London for both the Stephen Fry shows.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 10:56

    Just wanted to share something I heard on the radio this morning:

    "Today the Le Mans 24 hour race was won by Australia's David Brabham, son of the great Jack Brabham.

    .....and two french team members. Just like his brother Geoff."

    Gah, sometimes I am embarased to be Australian in Australia.

    Now, isn't there some cricket I can watch???

  • Amy15/06/2009 at 10:58

    Gah, sometimes I am embarased to be Australian in Australia.

    Sometimes being non-Australian in Australia makes me embarrassed for the Australiana ;)

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 10:59

    Sometimes being non-Australian in Australia makes me embarrassed for the Australiana ;)

    :D

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 11:01

    WooHoo! 2/10 in the quiz

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 11:04

    Uh oh...

    The FIA will publish shortly a detailed and documented account of the facts in it's dealings with FOTA

    Or... at least their take on the dealings...

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 11:05

    Sometimes being non-Australian in Australia makes me embarrassed for the Australiana ;)

    I could see the South African press making the same sort of nationalistic mistakes.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 11:06

    I could see the South African press making the same sort of nationalistic mistakes.

    Funny they seem to get the rugby scores right. and the teams

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 11:14

    Righhhhttt,

    I've got to go off and get ready to go out, yeeyyy exams :( boo

    Have a fun afternoon, shall speak to y'all later.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 11:16

    Have a fun afternoon, shall speak to y'all later.

    Enjoy. :D

    I'm planning what to do for a bit of fun tomorrow

  • Mattw15/06/2009 at 11:16

    am thinking if we remove comments that 100% incorrect it may encourage peeps to check facts more.

    thoughts?

    We may not have may commens left ;)

    I am a Lama

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 11:17

    I am a Lama

    Larry the Lama?

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 11:17

    I'm planning what to do for a bit of fun tomorrow

    Go to nearest nut and bolt shop...

    thats all im saying

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 11:18

    Go to nearest nut and bolt shop...

    Ooooh... Duxford.

  • Flabbergash15/06/2009 at 11:18

    Afternoon all

  • me15/06/2009 at 11:22

    We may not have may commens left ;)

    i haven't thought this through.

  • me15/06/2009 at 11:23

    Afternoon all

    howdy. how is flabbergash this afternoon?

  • Flabbergash15/06/2009 at 11:24

    Not bad pal - I just had a Rocky Road from Greggs, think I can feel my heart slowing down...

  • me15/06/2009 at 11:26

    Not bad pal - I just had a Rocky Road from Greggs, think I can feel my heart slowing down...

    aha. the montoya diet.

  • Flabbergash15/06/2009 at 11:27

    it's not the best thing when you're trying to work, a seizure might put me out for a while

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 11:27

    aha. the montoya diet.

    Maybe you should go and "play some tennis"?

  • Mattw15/06/2009 at 11:31

    i haven’t thought this through.

    Max is great

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 11:34

    Does google index these comments?

  • Dank15/06/2009 at 11:36

    Afternoon Sidepodfriends, I'm after your thoughts on taking pictures at Silverstone.

    I will be going on the less chaotic Friday this year with the other-half who likes to take pictures of fast things. Just wondering what was the general consensus for the ideal places for taking snaps were?

    Thinking around Club, Farm or Woodcote? Preferably no where that has a whacking great big fence directly in front, so up on embankments or in any of the grandstands should be good?

  • me15/06/2009 at 11:39

    Does google index these comments?

    yup.

  • me15/06/2009 at 11:39

    i haven’t thought this through.

    Max is great

    :P

  • me15/06/2009 at 11:40

    I will be going on the less chaotic Friday this year with the other-half who likes to take pictures of fast things. Just wondering what was the general consensus for the ideal places for taking snaps were?

    would this be with the free ticket from the chap you were hoping for? and if so, should we watch out for you running naked down the main straight??

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 11:41

    yup.

    Note to self #4!

  • Dank15/06/2009 at 11:50

    would this be with the free ticket from the chap you were hoping for? and if so, should we watch out for you running naked down the main straight??

    No. Someone within the team more-or-less suggested he'd get me a ticket... and I never heard from him again.

    And the Email I received from Red Bull last week asking for my 'direct emailing address' and asking if I was going to Silverstone was a master-class in not getting your hopes up.

    He wanted my email address and advised me about a promotion they're doing this weekend. Deflated? A bit!

    So we've had to fork out for our own tickets at £50 for Friday.

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 11:51

    Thinking around Club, Farm or Woodcote? Preferably no where that has a whacking great big fence directly in front, so up on embankments or in any of the grandstands should be good?

    Around Woodwiss?

  • me15/06/2009 at 11:56

    So we've had to fork out for our own tickets at £50 for Friday.

    ahh, bugger.

    vale and club (and maybe abbey) offer pretty good spots. but they're not covered. friday is a free-for-all though, so first come, best seat.

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 12:04

    so first come, best seat.

    It's surprising that "first come, best seat" hasn't caught on as a phrase ;)

  • me15/06/2009 at 12:05

    It's surprising that "first come, best seat" hasn't caught on as a phrase ;)

    new subtitle?

  • Journeyer15/06/2009 at 12:22

    Hello, everyone.

    Wolf's quiz! Woohoo! Got an 8 - no idea how many times Senna was on pole there, and made a booboo on which team won the British GP the most. :D

    Will just be dropping in and out - am keeping an eye on the Iran situation.

  • Journeyer15/06/2009 at 12:29

    BTW, Turkey race edit is up:

    http://www.formula1.com/video/race_edits.html

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 12:30

    i haven't thought this through.

    thinking is over-rated :-)

    Please run SPC in a way that you'll never get sick of doing it. Don't worry about who you upset, they'll get over it.

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 12:41

    Zoe hasn't seen Karate Kid. Supernatural just had a reference to Mr. Miyagi and she had no idea. :-(

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 12:42

    A local website has reported that Coca Cola may become a sponsor in F1 - I wonder which team it would like to associate itself with?

    http://www.wheels24.co.za/Content/FormulaOne/14/306e2f92c6fe4d7ea8a84634b05d89d0/15-06-2009 11-06/Coca-Cola_to_sponsor_F1

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 12:42

    Please run SPC in a way that you'll never get sick of doing it. Don't worry about who you upset, they'll get over it.

    Come on now, you know Sidepodpanda would be just as good.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 12:43

    Zoe hasn't seen Karate Kid. Supernatural just had a reference to Mr. Miyagi and she had no idea. :-(

    Grrrrr. Completly forgot supernatural and spooks tonight.

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 12:44

    Come on now, you know Sidepodpanda would be just as good.

    worst segway ever ahead:

    I registered iphonef1.com the other day. Interestingly, iphonef1.net was taken, or I wasn't allowed to have it.

  • Journeyer15/06/2009 at 12:47

    “Laserdisc was the prevalent rental video medium in Hong Kong during the 1990s.”

    I remember these! They were all the fad - until Betamax came along...

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 12:48

    I registered iphonef1.com the other day. Interestingly, iphonef1.net was taken, or I wasn't allowed to have it.

    That is one crazy domian!

  • Journeyer15/06/2009 at 12:49

    A local website has reported that Coca Cola may become a sponsor in F1 – I wonder which team it would like to associate itself with?

    Off the top of my head, I'd guess USF1 - the ultimate American brand (other than McDonalds, anyway) partnering with the ultimate F1 team.

    But I'm sure a lot of the teams would chase Coca-Cola down.

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 12:49

    That is one crazy domian!

    Look who's talking! :-)

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 12:51

    That is one crazy domian!

    And funnily enough, bought through www.crazydomains.com.au!

  • Journeyer15/06/2009 at 12:51

    ultimate F1 team.

    ultimate American F1 team, rather. :)

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 12:52

    A local website has reported that Coca Cola may become a sponsor in F1 - I wonder which team it would like to associate itself with?

    If only I could convince Apple to spend some it's $30+ Billion on Formula 1 related activities.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 12:54

    Off the top of my head, I'd guess USF1 - the ultimate American brand (other than McDonalds, anyway) partnering with the ultimate F1 team.

    Makes sense from a point of national support, but would a team that could win races not be better? One thought would be to pick up a Red Bull team which might end up being on the market later in the year.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 12:55

    If only I could convince Apple to spend some it's $30+ Billion on Formula 1 related activities.

    It will have the most stylish motorhome for sure.

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 12:55

    And funnily enough, bought through www.crazydomains.com.au!

    That was my very poor joke.

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 12:58

    That was my very poor joke.

    Aah. Past my bedtime! I will do something with it soon, I promise!

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 12:59

    It will have the most stylish motorhome for sure.

    Laser cut from a single block of aluminium? :P

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 13:01

    Hows things in the f1 world today

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 13:01

    Laser cut from a single block of aluminium? :P

    The Unibody motorhome

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 13:01

    Laser cut from a single block of aluminium? :P

    With trendy minimalistic white plastic interiors

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 13:18

    Until next time, I bid you all Adieu

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 13:43

    With trendy minimalistic white plastic interiors

    Ikea?

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 14:17

    With trendy minimalistic white plastic interiors

    Ikea?

    They could sponsor Kubes - being the flat-pack specialists and judging how he wanted to flatten the Toyota of Trulli earlier this year.

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 14:44

    Hello

  • RG15/06/2009 at 14:53

    Apparantly there is lightining coming north. Ooh.

    Least it wasn't yesterday. So hows stuff? Seems scarily quiet around here.

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 14:53

    Least it wasn't yesterday. So hows stuff? Seems scarily quiet around here.

    Stuff is good. How's stuff with you?

  • me15/06/2009 at 14:54

    Least it wasn't yesterday. So hows stuff? Seems scarily quiet around here.

    i am knackered. i think le mans tried to kill me. you?

  • RG15/06/2009 at 14:55

    Stuff is good. How's stuff with you?

    Stuff is going well apart from gifting everyone a catch in cricket.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 14:55

    i am knackered. i think le mans tried to kill me. you?

    Another one not being my fault ;)

  • me15/06/2009 at 14:56

    Another one not being my fault ;)

    annoyingly, you're free from blame.

    however, it were steven who suggest we follow sportscar racing...

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 14:57

    Another one not being my fault ;)

    annoyingly, you're free from blame.

    however, it were steven who suggest we follow sportscar racing...

    Ah ha!

    The Rotter

  • RG15/06/2009 at 14:58

    Uh oh. I've just seen some lightining

  • me15/06/2009 at 14:58

    Uh oh. I've just seen some lightining

    don't worry, it won't kill y.. actually... ruuuuun!

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 14:59

    Uh oh. I've just seen some lightining

    Stay indoors, watch the show

    Lightning is cool, get some pics if you can (away from the windows)

  • RG15/06/2009 at 15:00

    Lightning is cool, get some pics if you can (away from the windows)

    Annoyingly, its none of that spectacular fork stuff. Italy was good for that.

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:02

    autosport finally noticed there's an f1 iphone application available. apparently bernie says he's:

    "very excited by this application as it will allow fans to keep in touch with what is going on whilst on the move."

    yeah right.

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 15:03

    "very excited by this application as it will allow fans to keep in touch with what is going on whilst on the move."

    He has heard of the word 'fans'??

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:04

    He has heard of the word 'fans'??

    i think he probably has to spit on the ground each time the phrase comes up though.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 15:08

    He has heard of the word 'fans'??

    i think he probably has to spit on the ground each time the phrase comes up though.

    :D

    He obviously means iPhone fans ;)

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 15:10

    Christine can you accept me on skype

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 15:11

    Christine can you accept me on skype

    Will do next time I'm in there. I don't log in to the Sidepodcast account every single day.

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 15:11

    ok thanks

    Are you on it during a race weekend and live shows

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 15:15

    Are you on it during a race weekend and live shows

    Only if we're taking calls during a show, otherwise it is open for voicemails any time.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 15:23

    i am knackered. i think le mans tried to kill me. you?

    I camped at a wealthy friends house which has cable TV and watched most of it - must admit to having a snooze this afternoon though. Not quite as good as last year.

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:24

    I camped at a wealthy friends house which has cable TV and watched most of it - must admit to having a snooze this afternoon though. Not quite as good as last year.

    it would struggle to top last year's. although the first hour tried.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 15:26

    He has heard of the word 'fans'??

    At 5 quid a race for those owning iPhones - yes he has heard of Fans well their money at least!

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:27

    At 5 quid a race for those owning iPhones - yes he has heard of Fans well their money at least!

    has that price been confirmed though?

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 15:28

    At 5 quid a race for those owning iPhones - yes he has heard of Fans well their money at least!

    To Bernie, they are not fans but "wallet holders"

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 15:29

    it would struggle to top last year's. although the first hour tried.

    Last year was exciting - some of the best racing I have seen - have to admit this year I did swap channel to see the Moto GP dual between Rossi and Lorenzo - that was awesome!

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 15:31

    has that price been confirmed though?

    I think it is $8 and you buy for each race (that was what a local site seem to think!

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 15:32

    I think it is $8 and you buy for each race (that was what a local site seem to think!

    I guess we'll find out after Silverstone

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:32

    I guess we'll find out after Silverstone

    am still thinking it'll be with the release of 3.0 on wednesday.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 15:33

    am still thinking it'll be with the release of 3.0 on wednesday.

    Ah, "in-app purchasing"

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:36

    Ah, "in-app purchasing"

    yeah. no-one in "the know" appears to have any idea. therefore i'm assuming the issue is technical, rather than commercial.

    my guess is a £2 update per race. but that's based on nothing whatsoever.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 15:36

    Afternoon/evening.

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:36

    Afternoon/evening.

    eh-oh.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 15:38

    Ta for updating the Daily. I like how you included a link to get Safari :-)

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:38

    Ta for updating the Daily. I like how you included a link to get Safari :-)

    shhh. christine may not have noticed!

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 15:42

    Much going on today?

  • Journeyer15/06/2009 at 15:44

    eh-oh.

    Isn't that from the Teletubbies? ;)

  • Chris15/06/2009 at 15:44

    Ta for updating the Daily. I like how you included a link to get Safari :-)

    Personally, I'm waiting for Firefox 3.5. I've never got on with Safari

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 15:45

    Have you got URL for the subscription feed? Never have been able to access the iTunes store to do a search.

    It is on their RSS feed which I think I found somewhere on the website.

    how do you survive in a world without an itunes store?

    I seem to manage alright.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 15:46

    Well I did well on the quotes there didn't I

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 15:46

    Personally, I'm waiting for Firefox 3.5. I've never got on with Safari

    It's in beta isn't it, have you tried it?

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:47

    Personally, I'm waiting for Firefox 3.5. I've never got on with Safari

    without getting too geeky. i am surprised just how much i love safari. i haven't been this excited about a browser since netscape 2 introduced animated gifs.

    ff 3.5 will be an improvement, but will mozilla ever release it? it was promised at the end of may. they have more missed deadlines than the fia.

  • Journeyer15/06/2009 at 15:48

    ff 3.5 will be an improvement, but will mozilla ever release it? it was promised at the end of may. they have more missed deadlines than the fia.

    or nasa. ;) ff will come out in due course - maybe by end of june?

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:48

    Well I did well on the quotes there didn't I

    fixed.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 15:48

    Mr C, did you catch the comments over the weekend about using FBFB to display the date/time of next live show?

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:48

    or nasa. ;) ff will come out in due course - maybe by end of june?

    not the full public-ready release. they have even got to release candidate have they?

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 15:49

    Well I did well on the quotes there didn't I

    fixed.

    I didn't expect that, thanks :-)

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:49

    Mr C, did you catch the comments over the weekend about using FBFB to display the date/time of next live show?

    erm, no. tis a good idea though.

    christine was playing with FBFB behind the scenes during le mans, but it needs more work.

  • Journeyer15/06/2009 at 15:49

    not the full public-ready release. they have even got to release candidate have they?

    true - i think they're still in beta - beta 3 is it? or something like that.

  • Alex Andronov15/06/2009 at 15:52

    without getting too geeky. i am surprised just how much i love safari. i haven't been this excited about a browser since netscape 2 introduced animated gifs.

    When's Chrome for the mac due? They looked pretty close

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:54

    When's Chrome for the mac due? They looked pretty close

    ages away i'd imagine. youtube doesn't work.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 15:56

    ages away i'd imagine. youtube doesn't work.

    Updates here

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 15:56

    When's Chrome for the mac due? They looked pretty close

    ages away i'd imagine. youtube doesn't work.

    See the following link

    http://www.labnol.org/software/download-google-chrome-for-mac-linux/4555/

  • me15/06/2009 at 15:57

    See the following link

    am more interested in the native version from google though.

  • me15/06/2009 at 16:00

    Updates here

    "Updates delayed due to WWDC, come back next week. :-)"

    hehe!

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 16:03

    am more interested in the native version from google though.

    Of course not built on windows libraries.

  • me15/06/2009 at 16:10

    Of course not built on windows libraries.

    aside from not being available on linux, safari is ahead of the competition. it could be many months before the rest catch up.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 16:13

    aside from not being available on linux, safari is ahead of the competition. it could be many months before the rest catch up.

    Obviously I have to try it - I like Firefox then Opera. I never quite took to Google Chrome (I found it crashed rather a lot!)

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 16:15

    Bernie thinks all the conflit in f1 is about power not the rules or money

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 16:18

    I might be tempted to test out Safari in a less busy time.. say Friday..

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 16:30

    I might be tempted to test out Safari in a less busy time.. say Friday..

    Realised I need to update by OS - so have to wait.

  • me15/06/2009 at 16:57

    Realised I need to update by OS - so have to wait.

    how come?

  • James15/06/2009 at 17:00

    OK, all questions for Fernando and Nelson, please post them here:

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/06/question-time.html

    I look forward to seeing what you guys can come up with ;)

    Your getting to meet and question Fernando! *is jealous*

    I predict cake

    What kind? :D

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 17:18

    I predict cake

    I have a chocolate cake.

    Had to bake my own birthday cake!

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 17:19

    Realised I need to update by OS - so have to wait.

    how come?

    Bandwidth is expensive in SA so you need to make sure you download at times when there is not much traffic - (OSX update is about 750 MB). I tried the Windows version - coverflow seems to work really well.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 17:19

    Had to bake my own birthday cake!

    Today?

    Happy Burpday fella!

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 17:20

    Had to bake my own birthday cake!

    Today?

    Happy Burpday fella!

    Tomorrow.

    Share it with a very special person. ;)

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 17:31

    F1 news.

    The founder of the defunct Simtek F1 team, Nick Wirth is, with his company, designing and building the car for Manor Grand Prix. Linky

    Will Manor own the IP though? They need to in order to be a legal entry.

    Oh, and I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue has now started on Radio 4.

  • Chris15/06/2009 at 17:32

    Oh, and I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue has now started on Radio 4.

    Yay for Stephen Fry! Gonna miss Humph though...

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 17:33

    The founder of the defunct Simtek F1 team, Nick Wirth is, with his company, designing and building the car for Manor Grand Prix. Linky

    They build a tidy LMP car.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 17:33

    Happy birthday to everyone, in case I forget.

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 17:43

    Happy Birthday

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 17:46

    The founder of the defunct Simtek F1 team, Nick Wirth is, with his company, designing and building the car for Manor Grand Prix. Linky

    Nick is a friend and ex business partner of Max - so no surprise there!

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 17:47

    Nick is a friend and ex business partner of Max - so no surprise there!

    That's where Dave Richards has been going wrong then, schmoozing with the wrong overlords

  • lou15/06/2009 at 17:49

    Good Afternoon/ evening!

    How is everyone? had a good day?

    Oh and it's also a possibility that I might get to meet Anthony Davidson and David Coulthard too, so any questions for them would be welcome also :)

    you get to meet Fernando, Anthony Davidson, and DC! (oh and Nelson). I'm so jealous! sounds like you're going to have an amazing day :)

  • RG15/06/2009 at 17:50

    Good Afternoon/ evening!

    How is everyone? had a good day?

    I had lightning, survived the scare.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 17:51

    Hey Lou, I really liked your new pics and the pesky, moving Clown Fish :)

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 17:52

    I had lightning, survived the scare.

    Glad to hear it, were you counting the gaps between lightning & thunder?

  • RG15/06/2009 at 17:54

    Glad to hear it, were you counting the gaps between lightning & thunder?

    Erm, no.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 17:55

    Erm, no.

    Tis a way of establishing if storm is getting nearer or further away?

    Have you not seen Poltergeist?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 17:56

    Evening all

    Spoke to Tim from Puma again this afternoon on my lunch break. Still sorting out the travel arrangements, looks like a train down to Northampton and then pick up to Silverstone. I should meet Alonso and Piquet after free practice.

    Also told me they're going to send me some Puma gear for the weekend, through the post! :d

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 18:00

    Evening all

    Spoke to Tim from Puma again this afternoon on my lunch break. Still sorting out the travel arrangements, looks like a train down to Northampton and then pick up to Silverstone. I should meet Alonso and Piquet after free practice.

    Also told me they're going to send me some Puma gear for the weekend, through the post! :d

    We expect photos!

  • lou15/06/2009 at 18:01

    I had lightning, survived the scare.

    we have bright blue skies, yet i can hear thunder... it's kinda strange :)

    Hey Lou, I really liked your new pics and the pesky, moving Clown Fish :)

    thank you :) omg that damn clown fish!

    Glad to hear it, were you counting the gaps between lightning & thunder?

    hehe i used to do that :D

  • James15/06/2009 at 18:02

    We expect photos!

    Many photos :D

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 18:02

    We expect photos!

    Photos you shall get! :D

    They're giving me a video camera and digital camera to document my weekend for the report, and one thing they want me to do on Sunday before the race is interview fans!

    I'm gonna take my laptop for the weekend as well and hopefully be able to upload photos from my iPhone and such onto Facebook and drop.io if possible.

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 18:03

    kool

  • Chris_Humphreys15/06/2009 at 18:09

    who else is going to silverstone then

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 18:09

    They're giving me a video camera and digital camera to document my weekend for the report, and one thing they want me to do on Sunday before the race is interview fans!

    That sounds fantastic.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 18:15

    iPhone/iPod Touch App Map Quest looks like a decent (& free) alternative to Google Maps. Saves route directions too

    [Am amassing free apps before hardware!]

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 18:18

    iPhone/iPod Touch App Map Quest

    Bugger, is not available in UK

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 18:29

    FM3 related:

    On RaceDepartment, there's a post here about a guy who apparently works at Turn10 and has revealed what looks to be quite a bit of info!

    http://forum.racedepartment.com/forza-motorsport-3/19293-wip-forza-motorsport-3-car-track-list.html#post331640

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 18:32

    Here's an interesting quote from that large list of info:

    "Most of the cuts came about because there is immense pressure to hit the release date. There are careers on the line with this one, because FM1 and FM2 were so late. There WILL be a game called FM3 ready to go for October, the only question has been what kind of game it will be.

    "

    Crikey! You don't get this with Gran Turismo...

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 18:38

    Been offered a pit pass for this weekend as a birthday present from an ex-workmate.

    Call me mad, but I've turned it down.

    Going to try to get one for Spa instead. :D

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 18:39

    Evening guys, hope all are well.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 18:39

    sidepodspace update

    The next attempt to launch the space shuttle Endeavour will be June 17th at 5:40am EDT or 10:40 am UK.

    What happened to the 1 minute? Not 5:41?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 18:39

    Call me mad, but I've turned it down.

    You ARE mad!!!

    Spa does sound rather good though.

  • lou15/06/2009 at 18:39

    Evening guys, hope all are well.

    evening Lukeh, how was work?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 18:39

    Does anyone want me to get any pics in particular from Silverstone?

  • lou15/06/2009 at 18:40

    Call me mad, but I've turned it down.

    O.O wha?...

    Going to try to get one for Spa instead. :D

    oooh.. that kinda makes sense... :)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 18:40

    What happened to the 1 minute? Not 5:41?

    they know they wont be precise, they know they'll be late.

    howdy all.

    i just set fire to some Statistics work. oooh it felt good

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 18:40

    Been offered a pit pass for this weekend as a birthday present from an ex-workmate.

    Call me mad, but I've turned it down.

    Going to try to get one for Spa instead. :D

    I was going to call you mad but given the choice of Silverstone or Spa I would choose Spa.

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 18:41

    evening Lukeh, how was work?

    I spent my first 5 hours dealing with ignorant, impatient, ungrateful home delivery customers in an 11 hour shift. I think, for the sake of not liking saying nasty things, it's there I end this story ;)

    But it has been a looooooooooooong. day. My back has actually morphed into sandpaper. *lies down*

  • lou15/06/2009 at 18:41

    Does anyone want me to get any pics in particular from Silverstone?

    well...Jenson and anything Brawn GP will do me nicely :P :D

  • RG15/06/2009 at 18:41

    Going to try to get one for Spa instead. :D

    Do I blame ya, no.

    Evening guys, hope all are well.

    Hey Lukeh

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 18:42

    well...Jenson and anything Brawn GP will do me nicely :P :D

    I'll see if I can do the pitwalk at some point, hopefully whatever pass I have will get me some good pics and autographs ;)

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 18:42

    they know they wont be precise, they know they'll be late.

    But they always seem to schedul things with a single minute at the end to the point that Christine has developed a complex about it. She threatened to schedule live shows for 7:01 in future and this thread went up at 12:01

  • RG15/06/2009 at 18:43

    Does anyone want me to get any pics in particular from Silverstone?

    Timo, lots and lots of Timo. Preferably not in car, also with none of his girlfriend either.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 18:45

    sidepodspace other update

    For anyone interested in the LCROSS launch NASA put out the following statement. I guess no-one including me will be remotely interested in this mission until it returns someinteresting data.

    As a result, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, or LRO, and Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, are set to lift off together aboard an Atlas V rocket on Thursday, June 18. That launch was moved to June 18 to accommodate Endeavour's June 17 liftoff

  • Chris_Humphjreys15/06/2009 at 18:59

    Is there going to be a F1 minute today?

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 19:11

    What's a record?

    carbon fibre looking laser disc?

    That is a fabulous description Jeremy

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 19:18

    f1wolf has pulled together a monday morning quiz for y'all.

    I failed miserably. I am so ashamed

  • Christine15/06/2009 at 19:20

    Is there going to be a F1 minute today?

    Yep, I'm working on it.

  • Chris_Humphjreys15/06/2009 at 19:22

    ok thanks

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 19:27

    On RaceDepartment, there's a post here about a guy who apparently works at Turn10 and has revealed what looks to be quite a bit of info!

    Still no weather? :(

    Interesting to see so much nfo though, if true. Very disappointing to have no weather or day and night astuff though.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 19:27

    Sounds like Iran is about to have some kind of revolution

    Search #iranelection

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 19:46

    Sounds like Iran is about to have some kind of revolution

    It's going to be baaaadddd

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 19:51

    Does anyone want me to get any pics in particular from Silverstone?

    Timo and Toyota - there are at least two fans!

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 19:52

    Timo, lots and lots of Timo. Preferably not in car, also with none of his girlfriend either.

    I agree - BUT are just perhaps a little bit jealous!

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 19:52

    Another one not being my fault ;)

    annoyingly, you're free from blame.

    however, it were steven who suggest we follow sportscar racing...

    While it is my job to accept the blame for things round here I have a feeling that Christine may have been fairly keen that we watch some sportscar races.

  • Bassano Clapper15/06/2009 at 19:55

    Sounds like Iran is about to have some kind of revolution

    Well, it's long overdue but will it work?

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 19:58

    Well, it's long overdue but will it work?

    Don't know if it will work but it will be bloody. Seems it is already

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 20:10

    Boston Big picture on the Iran situation

    http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/irans_disputed_election.html

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 20:14

    Please FIA and FOTA can we to have races like the MotoGP - team mates racing each other without team orders to the finish and a crowd that supports both riders, even if one is a native of the circuit.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/rossi-lorenzo-final-laps-2009-flv

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 20:17

    Boston Big picture on the Iran situation

    wow

    just wow

  • me15/06/2009 at 20:21

    Boston Big picture on the Iran situation

    was just going to post that.

    that really is a fantastic piece.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 20:23

    that really is a fantastic post.

    The first I heard of anything other than the election result was on the TWiT podcast

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 20:24

    I tweeted the Boston link to Stephen Fry so he can circulate it

  • me15/06/2009 at 20:26

    I tweeted the Boston link to Stephen Fry so he can circulate it

    good plan.

    amazingly the bbc have something similar, but it doesn't carry the gravity of the situation half as well.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 20:29

    amazingly the bbc have something similar, but it doesn't carry the gravity of the situation half as well.

    Makes it look like a few people rather than a major uprising

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 20:29

    Here is some more info from the New York Times.

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/mondays-updates-on-irans-disputed-election/

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 20:32

    Unbelievable pics Steven, thanks.

    I tweeted the Boston link to Stephen Fry so he can circulate it

    I don't know if it worked because you had a space between the @ and his name.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 20:34

    Just found a very interesting twitter app http://twitterfall.com/

    No iphones were involved in this app

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 20:34

    I don't know if it worked because you had a space between the @ and his name.

    Thanks Pat. I will resend

  • me15/06/2009 at 20:56

    ouch, just watched the turkey video. lewis sounds really fed up with his race pace.

    also interesting that jenson says "you have built me a monster of a car".

  • me15/06/2009 at 20:56

    ouch, just watched the turkey video.

    official f1.com turkey review video, that is.

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 20:58

    also interesting that jenson says "you have built me a monster of a car".

    have to admit... I noticed that as soon as he said it on the radio. Don't think it's worth reading much into though personally

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 20:58

    While it is my job to accept the blame for things round here I have a feeling that Christine may have been fairly keen that we watch some sportscar races.

    Now all we need is Franck signing up for Bathurst...

  • RG15/06/2009 at 20:58

    have to admit... I noticed that as soon as he said it on the radio. Don't think it's worth reading much into though personally

    I agree, spur of the moment stuff I reckon considering he's won those races.

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:00

    ouch, just watched the turkey video. lewis sounds really fed up with his race pace.

    Blimey!

    I can't keep up with a freakin' Reanult!

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:01

    I agree, spur of the moment stuff I reckon considering he's won those races.

    i wasn't thinking of jenson vs. rubens. am thinking it sounds very me vs. you. e.g. you build the car, but i'm the star in it.

    let's flip it 180 for a second. what would you say if lewis had come on the radio with the same quote?

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 21:01

    also interesting that jenson says "you have built me a monster of a car".

    So nobody hears that as they built it for SPC and Jenson is sending out a somewhat cryptic thank you? :P

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:01

    So nobody hears that as they built it for SPC and Jenson is sending out a somewhat cryptic thank you? :P

    :)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:02

    I was thinking earlier about the FIA nuts thing, then felt a need to right #maxsnuts in a twitter post...

    but quickly realised that would be a bad idea

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:04

    let's flip it 180 for a second. what would you say if lewis had come on the radio with the same quote?

    good point I suppose, there's be a bit more of a self centered response of him saying it. Although i still hear his radios in just sheer excitement of winning because he seems to genuinely take everyone one like a first win. I am biased though so.. ;)

    Also, about lewis' radio, i honestly thought for a moment he was going to say he can't even catch up to Piquet. heh.

  • lou15/06/2009 at 21:04

    i wasn't thinking of jenson vs. rubens. am thinking it sounds very me vs. you. e.g. you build the car, but i'm the star in it.

    er....

    let's flip it 180 for a second. what would you say if lewis had come on the radio with the same quote?

    tbh i wouldn't think anything of it... he was just happy that the car is so good. He is the one driving it, of course he would say 'me'.... the whole team isn't driving the car....

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:05

    Iran on BBC1 news now.

    Iran religious leader to investigate rigged election

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:05

    tbh i wouldn't think anything of it... he was just happy that the car is so good. He is the one driving it, of course he would say 'me'.... the whole team isn't driving the car....

    i kinda disagree. i think if lewis had said it, he'd have been ripped to shreds... twice for good measure.

    i also think jb is getting a touch big for his racing boots. but we'll see.

  • lou15/06/2009 at 21:07

    i also think jb is getting a touch big for his racing boots. but we'll see.

    maybe... also someone mentioned to me at school that Jenson was really rude in an interview recently and afterwards had to apologise... that was the first i've heard of it though. was it true?

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:08

    Also, about lewis' radio, i honestly thought for a moment he was going to say he can't even catch up to Piquet. heh.

    that was jenson last year, bet you werent laughing then ;)

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 21:09

    tbh i wouldn't think anything of it... he was just happy that the car is so good. He is the one driving it, of course he would say 'me'.... the whole team isn't driving the car....

    Perhaps the radio gremlins added the "me" just like they removed the "a" from "that's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind"?

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:11

    maybe... also someone mentioned to me at school that Jenson was really rude in an interview recently and afterwards had to apologise... that was the first i've heard of it though. was it true?

    News to me

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:11

    News to me

    same here.

  • lou15/06/2009 at 21:15

    News to me

    same here.

    okay. i was worried i missed something, i've done some digging and can't find anything, they just used it in a discussion about why Jenson is apparently rubbish and i was kinda shocked and wondered if anyone else knew. lol :)

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:16

    okay. i was worried i missed something, i've done some digging and can't find anything, they just used it in a discussion about why Jenson is apparently rubbish and i was kinda shocked and wondered if anyone else knew. lol :)

    his radio message caught me off guard. coulda been heat of the moment stuff, might be a precursor to contract negotiations. time will tell no doubt.

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 21:16

    i kinda disagree. i think if lewis had said it, he'd have been ripped to shreds... twice for good measure.

    but Lewis always uses the royal we!

  • Rich15/06/2009 at 21:17

    maybe... also someone mentioned to me at school that Jenson was really rude in an interview recently and afterwards had to apologise... that was the first i've heard of it though. was it true?

    It is still out of character - Jenson being rude!

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:18

    It is still out of character - Jenson being rude!

    adrenaline? or success going to his head?

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:18

    his radio message caught me off guard. coulda been heat of the moment stuff, might be a precursor to contract negotiations. time will tell no doubt.

    Hamilton to Renault? Alonso to Ferrari and Raikkonen to McLaren.

    I have 2010 sorted out.

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:18

    i've missed a trick here. what in the world is lebol up to?

    http://formulaonefansassociation.blogspot.com/

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:19

    adrenaline? or success going to his head?

    he said "you've built me one monster of a car" right??

    i think he meant "you (i.e my engineers who did put the car together) have built a good car" not "you (i.e the team as a whole) have designed and built a car especially for me"

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:20

    i've missed a trick here. what in the world is lebol up to?

    FOFA, you missed it, twas early morning last Saturday.

  • lou15/06/2009 at 21:20

    his radio message caught me off guard. coulda been heat of the moment stuff, might be a precursor to contract negotiations. time will tell no doubt.

    tbh i didn't think anything of it other than the fact he was really emotional and happy, and seeing him with tears in his eyes on the podium/ in interviews kinda confirmed to me that he was just overwhelmed. However i'm biased but you're right only time will tell.

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 21:20

    i think he meant "you (i.e my engineers who did put the car together) have built a good car" not "you (i.e the team as a whole) have designed and built a car especially for me"

    Agreed

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:21

    FOFA, you missed it, twas early morning last Saturday.

    i like it!

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:21

    i think he meant "you (i.e my engineers who did put the car together) have built a good car" not "you (i.e the team as a whole) have designed and built a car especially for me"

    Agreed

    fair enough. and in a heartbeat he's disowned any car development contributions, right there.

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:22

    Question, how does the lclt sleep exactly? Cos I was active recently and it still went to the sleep page?

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:23

    Question, how does the lclt sleep exactly? Cos I was active recently and it still went to the sleep page?

    the timer resets when you post a comment on that page.

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:24

    the timer resets when you post a comment on that page.

    Strange how it went to sleep after I commented though?

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:24

    Strange how it went to sleep after I commented though?

    did you comment on a different tab or something?

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:25

    i've missed a trick here. what in the world is lebol up to?

    I saw FOFA mentioned during Le Mans but I had no idea what it was or that lebol was involved

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:25

    did you comment on a different tab or something?

    No, have been in the same lclt since about 7-ish

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:26

    No, have been in the same lclt since about 7-ish

    odd. did some updates for the bleeping noise thing. might've broken something. yell if it keeps doing it pls.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:26

    Has anyone seen this new Real Racing game on the App Store? It looks amazing! Excellent graphics for an iPhone/iPod Touch.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:26

    No, have been in the same lclt since about 7-ish

    Maybe you commented so quitely it didn't hear you

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:27

    I saw FOFA mentioned during Le Mans but I had no idea what it was or that lebol was involved

    what exactly is lebol?

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:27

    odd. did some updates for the bleeping noise thing. might've broken something. yell if it keeps doing it pls.

    Will do sir.

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:27

    what exactly is lebol?

    I'm assuming the Blue and Orange Lion who is a commentor

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:27

    blue orange lion and associated family members and pets

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:28

    although my mind is sleepy so I may be wrong...

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:29

    Real Racing has just become my single biggest purchase at £5.99. 77 out of 102 reviews gave it 5 stars, so it must be good!

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:31

    Real Racing has just become my single biggest purchase at £5.99. 77 out of 102 reviews gave it 5 stars, so it must be good!

    On iTunes, you understand. Not actually in my life! :D

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:31

    On iTunes, you understand. Not actually in my life! :D

    Was about to say for a moment :D

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:32

    On iTunes, you understand. Not actually in my life! :D

    doctor who picked the wrong gadget when he chose the sonic screwdriver.

    the iphone does more and it plays games.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:33

    the iphone does more and it plays games.

    does it undo deadlocked sealed doors? thats the only thing his sonic screwdriver cant do, i always feel sorry for him when that happens

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:33

    the iphone does more and it plays games.

    Agreed. Single best gadget in my life right now :D

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:33

    doctor who picked the wrong gadget when he chose the sonic screwdriver.

    doctor who is the program, he is the doctor!

    *geek rage*

    :P

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:34

    *geek rage*

    :D

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:34

    doctor who is the program, he is the doctor!

    he's not called doctor who?

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:34

    he's not called doctor who?

    nope.

    just "the doctor"

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:34

    does it undo deadlocked sealed doors?

    there's bound to be an app for that.

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:34

    he's not called doctor who?

    It's like calling you 'Me Who'

  • lou15/06/2009 at 21:34

    *geek rage*

    hahaha :D

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:34

    just "the doctor"

    what's his surname then?

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:35

    he's not called doctor who?

    he's, to quote david tennant, the DOCTAH!!

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:35

    just "the doctor"

    Which is where people would ask "Doctor who?", hence the name of the show?

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:35

    It's like calling you 'Me Who'

    who me?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:35

    who me?

    Oh lord...

  • lou15/06/2009 at 21:35

    what's his surname then?

    his name is 'the doctor' he doesn't have a surname...that we know of

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:35

    what's his surname then?

    barric... he doesnt have one I mean.

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:36

    barric... he doesnt have one I mean.

    :D

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:36

    Oh lord...

    No, lord has nothing to do with doctor who or calling anyone who

  • lou15/06/2009 at 21:36

    barric... he doesnt have one I mean.

    :D :D

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:36

    I was gonna say the Doctor's surname is Thiessen, then realised photoshop was open, and thought better of it to stop myself.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:36

    No, lord has nothing to do with doctor who or calling anyone who

    No you don't understa....I meant....oh, forget it.

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:37

    I was gonna say the Doctor's surname is Thiessen, then realised photoshop was open, and thought better of it to stop myself.

    it sits on standby?

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:37

    his name is 'the doctor' he doesn't have a surname...that we know of

    All doctors have names. When people say they are going to see the doctor the doctor they are talking about has a name.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:37

    No, lord has nothing to do with doctor who or calling anyone who

    Gordon Brown has made the doctor a lord? Lord what?

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:37

    it sits on standby?

    what can I say, I waste far too much time on that dreaded program ;)

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:37

    No you don't understa....I meant....oh, forget it.

    I understand Lord is a pretty impressive guy, but he doesn't have a device which can save the world.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 21:38

    he's not called doctor who?

    So why did a couple of them have question marks on his clothes?

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:38

    there's bound to be an app for that.

    i loved over the le mans weekend when the commentators would randomly say "theres an app for that"

    :D

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:38

    So why did a couple of them have question marks on his clothes?

    he had a personal crisis

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:38

    So why did a couple of them have question marks on his clothes?

    It was a confusing few regenerations

    I mean, a leek? seriously?

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:38

    I understand Lord is a pretty impressive guy, but he doesn't have a device which can save the world.

    he doesn't have a iphone either?

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:38

    http://twitterfall.com/

    This is the twitter search app Mr C needs. It doesn't tell you about how many new results it has it just feeds them in constantly

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:39

    he doesn't have a iphone either?

    God knows.

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:39

    he doesn't have a iphone either?

    he has a big phone box, it's the wibbly wobbley timey wimey equivalent of a iphone

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:39

    Just starting Real Racing.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:39

    So why did a couple of them have question marks on his clothes?

    and the rest have question marks over their taste in clothes

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 21:39

    I understand Lord is a pretty impressive guy, but he doesn't have a device which can save the world.

    Lord Drayson? He's the only Lord I follow (on Twitter).

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:40

    This is the twitter search app Mr C needs. It doesn't tell you about how many new results it has it just feeds them in constantly

    mrs c. is after that one. shall pass it on.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:40

    and the rest have question marks over their taste in clothes

    :D

  • me15/06/2009 at 21:40

    he has a big phone box, it's the wibbly wobbley timey wimey equivalent of a iphone

    the lord has a time machine? oh christ.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:40

    he doesn't have a iphone either?

    Maybe there are no iphones in the future.

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 21:41

    this conversation will make me watch Dr Who in a whole new light. The Doctor Who Me Barrichello is now the lord with an iphone the power of a big phone box.

    Apprently.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 21:41

    Maybe there are no iphones in the future.

    thats my kind of future

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 21:42

    this conversation will make me watch Dr Who in a whole new light. The Doctor Who Me Barrichello is now the lord with an iphone the power of a big phone box.

    Does that make him the number two time lord. Only unofficially of course

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:42

    thats my kind of future

    Ooooh, I can love the future ahead, regardless of what Timo/BMW does.

  • RG15/06/2009 at 21:44

    Ooooh, I can love the future ahead, regardless of what Timo/BMW does.

    Actually scrap that, I want Timo/BMW to do well first.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 21:44

    the lord has a time machine? oh christ.

    Christ plays keyboard for Oasis.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:45

    Damn, this Real Racing is unbelieveable! :D

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:50

    The steering is really easy to be smooth with when tilting. It's brilliant :D

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 21:51

    I don't know if any of you follow both Nelson Piquet and @F1_updates on Twitter... Nelson said England is too cold, I can't repeat the response :-)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 21:53

    I urge anyone who has an iPhone/iPod Touch and loves racing games - buy. Real. Racing. It is simply amazing they can get a game that looks like something you'd play on a PC or something onto a device as small as this. :D

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:00

    thats my kind of future

    Not mine. iPhone is the best phone on the market. On Wednesday, all existing iPhones can be upgraded to a new version of the iPhone software, that's like having a whole new phone for nothing.

    To the naysayers that complain that the iPhone can't do something theirs can - does your phone have over 50,000 apps that you can install on it? Thought not.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:02

    To the naysayers that complain that the iPhone can't do something theirs can - does your phone have over 50,000 apps that you can install on it? Thought not.

    How many of them are utterly pointless?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 22:02

    Not mine. iPhone is the best phone on the market. On Wednesday, all existing iPhones can be upgraded to a new version of the iPhone software, that's like having a whole new phone for nothing.

    Means I don't need to get the 3GS when I can just get the software for free! :D

    To the naysayers that complain that the iPhone can't do something theirs can - does your phone have over 50,000 apps that you can install on it? Thought not.

    To the naysayers that complain that the iPhone can't do something theirs can - does your phone have over 50,000 apps that you can install on it? Thought not.

    Take that, Crackberry.

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:02

    Uh oh.

    I should really stay away from photoshop...

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:03

    To the naysayers that complain that the iPhone can't do something theirs can - does your phone have over 50,000 apps that you can install on it? Thought not.

    Nope. But then I am not spending money on stuff I will use once and forget about

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 22:03

    I should really stay away from photoshop...

    What have you been up to this time?

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:03

    What have you been up to this time?

    The next Doctor and his companion....

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/mariowho-jpg

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:04

    How many of them are utterly pointless?

    Well to be fair, quite a lot of them. The point is that the platform is there and there are some amazingly useful apps already available with many more to come.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 22:05

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/mariowho-jpg

    Mario I can live with, but WTF with Kubica?!

  • RG15/06/2009 at 22:05

    The next Doctor and his companion....

    must.not.laugh. retain.support.for.bmw

    I give in

    hahaha :D

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:05

    Mario I can live with, but WTF with Kubica?!

    I've scared even myself :(

  • RG15/06/2009 at 22:05

    Mario looks canny good for the Doctor. Lining up a job for when BMW leaves?

  • RG15/06/2009 at 22:06

    I've scared even myself :(

    There's been worse. *Shudders*

    Hey, why is it always BMW in these scary pics?

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:06

    Hey, why is it always BMW in these scary pics?

    I think mario looks freakin' awesome as the doctor!

    Just.... the other one....

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:10

    How many of them are utterly pointless?

    surely it depends on who you ask and what their interests are?

    or to put it another way... define pointless.

  • RG15/06/2009 at 22:11

    I think mario looks freakin' awesome as the doctor!

    I know, he does.

    Gonna go now, night all!

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:12

    Means I don't need to get the 3GS when I can just get the software for free! :D

    it won't give you video, but i agree, it's a whole new thing for free... except for people like me who have to pay for the upgrade, but i digress.

  • lou15/06/2009 at 22:12

    Gonna go now, night all!

    night R.G

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:12

    Gonna go now, night all!

    See ya RG

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:12

    Gonna go now, night all!

    night r.g.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 22:13

    it won't give you video, but i agree, it's a whole new thing for free... except for people like me who have to pay for the upgrade, but i digress.

    Meh, video isn't something I'm gonna miss. As long as I can use TomTom on it when it comes out, I'm all set.

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:15

    or to put it another way... define pointless.

    iFart? You have a point though, with all the choice there is bound to be some less than useful stuff, but when you hear stories of medical professionals who would rather go home and collect their forgotten iPhone and be late instead of spending the whole day without it.

    The app that allows doctors to monitor their patients via their phones (demonstrated at WWDC) is nothing short of brilliant.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:16

    Meh, video isn't something I'm gonna miss. As long as I can use TomTom on it when it comes out, I'm all set.

    i would probably argue (and please don't get defensive when you read this, because it's just an observation), that the camera installed in the last gen iphone was a bit of a shocker. and in 12 months time it'll look pretty awful compared to the competition.

    however, my ipodtouch doesn't even have a camera, so maybe i know nothing.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:16

    The app that allows doctors to monitor their patients via their phones (demonstrated at WWDC) is nothing short of brilliant.

    compared to the thing nintendo debuted a week earlier, i agree.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 22:17

    i would probably argue (and please don't get defensive when you read this, because it's just an observation), that the camera installed in the last gen iphone was a bit of a shocker. and in 12 months time it'll look pretty awful compared to the competition.

    I do see what you mean. End of the day, camera's a camera, isn't it? Probably could do with a flash or something, though.

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:17

    it won't give you video, but i agree, it's a whole new thing for free... except for people like me who have to pay for the upgrade, but i digress.

    That's an accounting thing. iPod Touches are a single transaction whereas the income from an iPhone is counted over a longer period (the phone companies subsidise the cost and pay back Apple over time). The upshot is iPhone upgrades are free, iPod Touch upgrades are chargeable. It was the same when Apple released the 802.11n upgrade software.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:17

    Riiiight everyone. I need your help...

    I need cheap things to do in the Reading and Windsor areas?

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:18

    How many of them are utterly pointless?

    surely it depends on who you ask and what their interests are?

    or to put it another way... define pointless.

    I'm sure there's a lot of great stuff out there, my point was that with anything listing xx,000 'great apps' there is bound to be a significant proportion of absolute nonsense in there, and duplicate apps of different versions.

    The Blogger plugin section is like it. It lists I don't know how many plugins but only a small proportion are of any use.

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:18

    compared to the thing nintendo debuted a week earlier, i agree.

    the viality sensor majig?

    I still can't see what on earth the point in that is. Have tried and read up on it.... still nothing.

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:18

    i would probably argue (and please don't get defensive when you read this, because it's just an observation), that the camera installed in the last gen iphone was a bit of a shocker. and in 12 months time it'll look pretty awful compared to the competition.

    According to some sites, the new software improves the clarity of photos taken with the original/3G camera.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:19

    I need cheap things to do in the Reading and Windsor areas?

    Look at the castle

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 22:19

    According to some sites, the new software improves the clarity of photos taken with the original/3G camera.

    Nice.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:19

    Look at the castle

    riiight...

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:20

    riiight...

    Castles are awesome!

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:20

    The upshot is iPhone upgrades are free, iPod Touch upgrades are chargeable. It was the same when Apple released the 802.11n upgrade software.

    hmm. that is kinda dubious, because apple frequently update my one time mbp purchase with new software and don't charge me for it.

    as do microsoft etc etc.

    i think apple are trying to create a new market and i think they'll succeed, but that's a discussion for another day.

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:20

    I need cheap things to do in the Reading and Windsor areas?

    Keep driving, don't stop.

    Reading Museum is worth a look, it has the only complete replica of the Bayeux tapestry.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:20

    Castles are awesome!

    to go in yes...not to look at....

  • lou15/06/2009 at 22:20

    Castles are awesome!

    sure are :) although living in the south east i was brought up going to castles :D

  • lou15/06/2009 at 22:21

    to go in yes...not to look at....

    depends if you are taking photos of it or not.... lol :D

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:21

    Keep driving, don't stop.

    hmm, and if i were to stop?

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:22

    sure are :) although living in the south east i was brought up going to castles :D

    ooh, sounds fun... :D nearest to us is probably Chepstow Castle which I love visiting.

    Newport has a castle though. I say castle, it's a wall. I say wall, it;s a fenced up collage of bricks.

    I say collage...

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:22

    Newport has a castle though. I say castle, it's a wall. I say wall, it;s a fenced up collage of bricks.

    I say collage...

    :D :P :)

  • lou15/06/2009 at 22:23

    I say collage...

    ahaha :D

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:24

    hmm. that is kinda dubious, because apple frequently update my one time mbp purchase with new software and don't charge me for it.

    No, they regularly update your current version for free. If you have 10.4 then all 10.4 updates are free, but you pay to go to 10.5.

    2.x updates were all free on both iPod Touch and iPhone.

    It's all down to the beancounters and things I don't pretend to understand (like annual budgets - I mean why can't you just keep the money for a bit longer and spend it when you need to instead of rushing to spend it before some arbitrary deadline?)

  • lou15/06/2009 at 22:25

    I need cheap things to do in the Reading and Windsor areas?

    what kinda things do you want to do? i've no idea about the reading and windsor area, maybe there are some pretty national trust places or something.... then again you may not like looking at old historical places...

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:25

    hmm, and if i were to stop?

    Keep the doors locked and the windows wound up. Hope for the best.

    I was born in Reading, I no longer live there. I escaped.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:26

    Evening.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:26

    No, they regularly update your current version for free. If you have 10.4 then all 10.4 updates are free, but you pay to go to 10.5.

    i hate to bring it up... but look at the zune. a gen 1 device has had all the updates for free, and MS accountants are just fine with that.

    my point is, i understand apple want to change me for new stuff, but they don't have to lie to me and pretend the men in suits make them charge me.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:27

    what kinda things do you want to do? i've no idea about the reading and windsor area, maybe there are some pretty national trust places or something.... then again you may not like looking at old historical places...

    maybe you should give is commenters a bunch of choices and we'll pick for you?

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:28

    I think Legoland is nearby if you're desperate.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:28

    my point is, i understand apple want to change me for new stuff, but they don't have to lie to me and pretend the men in suits make them charge me.

    Can you imagine the complaints if Microsoft charged for Service Packs?

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:28

    Evening.

    Evening

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:29

    Can you imagine the complaints if Microsoft charged for Service Packs?

    They should employ the blind Apple cheer squad

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:29

    Can you imagine the complaints if Microsoft charged for Service Packs?

    i can. but andy has a point that 3.0 isn't a service pack, it's a new version.

    what i can't abide is someone claiming it's the law to charge me.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:29

    maybe you should give is commenters a bunch of choices and we'll pick for you?

    i would if i had any ;)

    i was thinking Legoland, but its over £30

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:29

    2.x updates were all free on both iPod Touch and iPhone.

    Not on the touch.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:30

    i would if i had any ;)

    *googles things to do in reading*

    this'll be fun ;)

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:30

    *googles things to do in reading*

    read? ;-)

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:30

    my point is, i understand apple want to change me for new stuff, but they don't have to lie to me and pretend the men in suits make them charge me.

    As I said, I don't pretend to understand the reasoning. It's all to do with numbers...

    Also, supplying software to all^Wboth the Zune owners out there must cost very little.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:30

    Keep the doors locked and the windows wound up. Hope for the best.

    I was born in Reading, I no longer live there. I escaped.

    its not that bad, i've been there many times, its not the nicest of places, but its not that bad. some parts are nice.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:31

    read? ;-)

    :P

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:31

    Can you imagine the complaints if Microsoft charged for Service Packs?

    i can. but andy has a point that 3.0 isn't a service pack, it's a new version.

    what i can't abide is someone claiming it's the law to charge me.

    So unlike my MS Mobile 5 to 6 update being a free update. ;)

  • lou15/06/2009 at 22:31

    i would if i had any ;)

    well what kinda things appeal to you (so i know what kinda thing i'm looking for)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:31

    read? ;-)

    ;)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:31

    well what kinda things appeal to you (so i know what kinda thing i'm looking for)

    activity things, stuff thats active.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:31

    So unlike my MS Mobile 5 to 6 update being a free update. ;)

    that's exactly what i'm talking about :)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:32

    activity things, stuff thats active.

    by activity things i mean stuff you can do

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:32

    that's exactly what i'm talking about :)

    I'll even probably get 6.5 and 7 as freebies too.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:32

    by activity things i mean stuff you can do

    so, sitting in the car park at microsoft doesn't count?

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:33

    Not on the touch.

    If you had 1.x you paid for 2. All 1.x updates were free for 1.x ipods, likewise for 2.x. When version 2 came out, iPod touches were reduced in price by £10 which was more than the cost of the upgrade.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:33

    I'll even probably get 6.5 and 7 as freebies too.

    Yes, but would you *want* any of those upgrades?!

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:33

    by activity things i mean stuff you can do

    outsidey stuff? you're asking here??

  • Lukeh15/06/2009 at 22:33

    this'll be fun ;)

    You've reminded me now of the comedian Tony Hawks answering emails on his website to people thinking he is the skater Tony Hawk, and one email ended in 'thanks for reading' and he responded with...

    I like the way you finish your mail. 'Cheers for Reading'. At last someone else who appreciates this much maligned town. Reading is a wonderful place with an excellent one way system, efficient libraries, and a number of fine grass verges. On top of that, it is well-served by the M4 motorway, so it has easy access to places which are much, much nicer.

    Goodbye

    TH

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:33

    so, sitting in the car park at microsoft doesn't count?

    i see that on the train, and have got lost in that industrial estate too.

    aaaah, memories

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:33

    outsidey stuff? you're asking here??

    :D :D

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:33

    Yes, but would you *want* any of those upgrades?!

    Not sure about 6.5 yet. Haven't got the betas running yet.

    What I've seen about 7 looks superb though.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:34

    If you had 1.x you paid for 2. All 1.x updates were free for 1.x ipods, likewise for 2.x. When version 2 came out, iPod touches were reduced in price by £10 which was more than the cost of the upgrade.

    Ah. Thought you meant the 1 -> 2 upgrade.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:34

    outsidey stuff? you're asking here??

    you have a point..

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:35

    Is there any kind of racing near Reading?

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:35

    What I've seen about 7 looks superb though.

    Superb and Windows Mobile in the same sentence?! I must be dreaming.

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:35

    I like the way you finish your mail. 'Cheers for Reading'. At last someone else who appreciates this much maligned town. Reading is a wonderful place with an excellent one way system, efficient libraries, and a number of fine grass verges. On top of that, it is well-served by the M4 motorway, so it has easy access to places which are much, much nicer.

    He's completely right.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:36

    you have a point..

    this gets my vote:

    http://www.thamesrivercruise.co.uk/fleet_princess.htm

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:36

    Is there any kind of racing near Reading?

    There's a kart track, same company as the one we went to in January. Also speedway.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:37

    best i can find jon:

    http://readingroars.com/top-10-things-to-do-in-reading/

    may we pick something from there?

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:37

    may we pick something from there?

    haha, go for it

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:37

    this gets my vote:

    that looks goood

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:38

    Oh! Watch Reading FC!

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:38

    haha, go for it

    ggod. am going for the tenth top thing to do in reading:

    "And finally, leave town. Eh? Yes, that’s right - get outta town!"

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:38

    Is there any kind of racing near Reading?

    Drive to Woking, look for McLaren.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:38

    Oh! Watch Reading FC!

    haha, you are unaware of my loathing of football

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:38

    what i can't abide is someone claiming it's the law to charge me.

    According to this (from the Internet), it is:

    "Apple charges for system software because Apple's policy makers

    suspect they'll make more money by charging for it than by not

    charging for it. Apple is a publicly held corporation in a

    capitalist economy where the law requires corporations to make

    reasonable attempts to maximize profits. To give away something

    Apple could make more money by charging for would be a breach of

    the fiduciary responsibility of Apple's Board of Directors and

    actionable by Apple stockholders in a court of law."

    http://bit.ly/zUQzi

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:38

    "And finally, leave town. Eh? Yes, that’s right - get outta town!"

    :D

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:39

    its not that bad, i've been there many times, its not the nicest of places, but its not that bad. some parts are nice.

    No, it really is that bad. Except Caversham.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:39

    "And finally, leave town. Eh? Yes, that’s right - get outta town!"

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:39

    No, it really is that bad. Except Caversham.

    there are some nice parts :)

    i have a low expectation, i was bought up on a main road in southampton.

    everywhere looks nice to me

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:40

    According to this (from the Internet), it is:

    bunkem. how can you explain what pretty much every other software company in the world has done at least one their past?

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:40

    Drive to Woking, look for McLaren.

    That would get my vote. Are you allowed to just "drop in".?

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:40

    That would get my vote. Are you allowed to just "drop in".?

    you can stand by the entrance sign.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:41

    bunkem. how can you explain what pretty much every other software company in the world has done at least one their past?

    This is Apple. You aren't meant to question, just enjoy getting charged.

    Oh, and cheer about it a bit.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:41

    According to this (from the Internet), it is:

    They are covering their behinds because they are scared of being sued by their shareholders.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:41

    bunkem. how can you explain what pretty much every other software company in the world has done at least one their past?

    Oh, and cheer about it a bit.

    YAY!

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:41

    you can stand by the entrance sign.

    :D

    I'll add it to my list of things to do in the UK

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:41

    Drive to Woking, look for McLaren.

    That would get my vote. Are you allowed to just "drop in".?

    No idea. But Brooklands isn't a lot further away.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:42

    They are covering their behinds because they are scared of being sued by their shareholders.

    and microsoft aren't bothered?

    they're not covering anything, they're lying through their teeth. however, i shall still be paying come wednesday.

  • Kris15/06/2009 at 22:43

    I'm just tuning into panorama via iplayer, it looks like they're looking at newspapers and privacy laws for celebs... It looks like they have an interview with Max if anyones interested in rehashing zwei-gate

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:43

    they're not covering anything, they're lying through their teeth. however, i shall still be paying come wednesday.

    That's part of the reason I sold my touch, and got an iPhone. Which, I suspect, is all part of the plan.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:43

    No idea. But Brooklands isn't a lot further away.

    Mercedes centre and the Brooklands Museum.

    :D

    Some beautiful stuff at both. The Concorde at Brooklands is one of the best survivors. Simulator is good if you can get a shufti at it. ;)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:43

    No idea. But Brooklands isn't a lot further away.

    i forgot to add....

    things to do with my very-un-racing-fan-girlfriend. in reading...

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:44

    They are covering their behinds because they are scared of being sued by their shareholders.

    and microsoft aren't bothered?

    they're not covering anything, they're lying through their teeth. however, i shall still be paying come wednesday.

    It is senseless to me. Countless companies give stuff away. They are using the technicalities of accounting practice to get out of it.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:44

    Some beautiful stuff at both. The Concorde at Brooklands is one of the best survivors. Simulator is good if you can get a shufti at it. ;)

    There's a Concorde at Brooklands? I've been in the one at Yeovilton.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:44

    It is senseless to me. Countless companies give stuff away. They are using the technicalities of accounting practice to get out of it.

    110% agreement.

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:45

    and microsoft aren't bothered?

    So Vista is free for XP owners? I told you it was complicated.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:45

    Oh! Watch Reading FC!

    In June?

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:46

    things to do with my very-un-racing-fan-girlfriend. in reading...

    Shopping then.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:46

    There's a Concorde at Brooklands? I've been in the one at Yeovilton.

    Yup. One of the development airframes. She's a beauty. May have friends who worked on it and been on board while she was being reassembled though. ;)

    Some lovely old stuff there. Planes, cars, bikes... Plus the race track itself.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:46

    So Vista is free for XP owners? I told you it was complicated.

    eh?

    maybe i'm doing a bad job of explaining, but you're missing my point by a thousand miles.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:46

    In June?

    Crazy mixed up Australian

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:46

    Shopping then.

    the oracle must never be mensioned

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:46

    So Vista is free for XP owners? I told you it was complicated.

    No, but XP is for Vista owners...

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:47

    the oracle must never be mensioned

    from the matrix?

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:47

    No, but XP is for Vista owners...

    ooooh. good flippin' point sir!

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:47

    the oracle must never be mensioned

    Oracle was replaced by Telextext.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:47

    So Vista is free for XP owners? I told you it was complicated.

    No. But what Apple is doing is a bit like giving Vista away to Dell owners, but charging HP owners....

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:47

    Oracle was replaced by Telextext.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:47

    from the matrix?

    its a shopping centre *shudders*

  • Kris15/06/2009 at 22:47

    No, but XP is for Vista owners...

    Only vista business that has downgrade rights isnt it?

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:48

    Yup. One of the development airframes. She's a beauty. May have friends who worked on it and been on board while she was being reassembled though. ;)

    Nice :-)

    Some lovely old stuff there. Planes, cars, bikes... Plus the race track itself.

    I keep meaning to go, was never sure if it was worth it.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:48

    its a shopping centre *shudders*

    can you ask it questions?

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:48

    No. But what Apple is doing is a bit like giving Vista away to Dell owners, but charging HP owners....

    But you're not allowed to install Apple OS on anything but Apple...

    Hello - monopolies commission?

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:48

    No idea. But Brooklands isn't a lot further away.

    Brooklands is interesting. Go climb up the banking on the track and look how bumpy it is. The idea that they used to do the insane speeds they did there with no real barrier on the top is scary. It is obscene that they knocked down a lot of the track to build a shopping centre

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:49

    Only vista business that has downgrade rights isnt it?

    Not that I'm aware of - any version you get with a PC can be changed to XP.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 22:49

    can you ask it questions?

    nope, but it will ask your wallet "can i drain you?" and without you even answering it says "thanks"

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:49

    Mercedes centre and the Brooklands Museum.

    Some beautiful stuff at both. The Concorde at Brooklands is one of the best survivors. Simulator is good if you can get a shufti at it. ;)

    I haven't been there since Merc bought it

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:50

    But you're not allowed to install Apple OS on anything but Apple...

    Yeah, I knew that wasn't gonna sound right.

    It's just GRRRR annoying for Touch owners.

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:51

    It's just GRRRR annoying for Touch owners.

    to me, the upgrade is worth the asking price.

    i just hate the veil of bs that's spun around it.

  • Kris15/06/2009 at 22:52

    Crikey... Max is explaining exactly what he was up to... I really didnt need the different roll games explaining :S or did I need to hear him describing himself as an "oppressor"

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:52

    I keep meaning to go, was never sure if it was worth it.

    I went before Merc bought it and before they had a Concorde and it was facinating then. Go

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:53

    I went before Merc bought it and before they had a Concorde and it was facinating then. Go

    now i want to go.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:54

    now i want to go.

    You need to wait till morning

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:54

    I went before Merc bought it and before they had a Concorde and it was facinating then. Go

    I thought that Merc bought a bit of land and a section of the old track, but not the museum?

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:54

    You need to wait till morning

    heeeh!

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:54

    maybe i'm doing a bad job of explaining, but you're missing my point by a thousand miles.

    Am I? I'm not sure I follow - just look at Windows 32bit OS - NT 3.51 -> NT4.0 -> Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) -> Windows XP (NT 5.1) -> WIndows Vista (NT 6.0) -> Windows 7 - All paid-for upgrades. Updates and service packs for each version are all free.

    Look at the version numbers, the choice of charging is down to marketing.

    Other companies do the exact same thing.

    At least Apple has a clear policy.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:54

    now i want to go.

    Sidepodtrip

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:54

    or did I need to hear him describing himself as an "oppressor"

    We've known that for ages though - look at how he treats the teams. ;)

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:55

    I went before Merc bought it and before they had a Concorde and it was facinating then. Go

    Will investigate for a later time.. ta.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:55

    I thought that Merc bought a bit of land and a section of the old track, but not the museum?

    I can't remember what they bought

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:55

    now i want to go.

    So is the banking still there?

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:55

    At least Apple has a clear policy.

    If you want anything - you pay for it.

    At least I made money from Windows ME. ;)

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:56

    So is the banking still there?

    Large chunks of it. You can see it on google earth/maps

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:56

    So is the banking still there?

    Parts of it are. You can just about see it from the train between Dorchester and London if you are paying attention...

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:57

    Parts of it are. You can just about see it from the train between Dorchester and London if you are paying attention...

    specifically Surbiton and... argh can't remember

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 22:57

    Large chunks of it. You can see it on google earth/maps

    Cool !

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:57

    So is the banking still there?

    A section of it is. They knocked down some of it when it was an air base during the war then they knocked down the majority of the rest to make a shopping centre. You can still sit on the track - low down - and see it disappear round the corner

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 22:57

    the oracle must never be mensioned

    I think it's funny that the town that has the UK HQ of Oracle has a shopping centre called the Oracle. Confusing?

    When Oracle's HQ was being built, their address was something like: Oracle UK, c/o Microsoft Technology Park, Reading.

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 22:57

    specifically Surbiton and... argh can't remember

    I think the nearest town is Weybridge

  • me15/06/2009 at 22:58

    Am I?

    you've conveniently ignored all of the previous examples i've listed, and the one's flibster has listed.

    i say conveniently...

    look at the zune. itself ipod-esque. every version of the zune ever purchased can run the latest updates for FREE.

    apple are spreading FUD on this issue. with the likely intention to capitalise on consumers stupidity.

    i understand your position on this one, but pretending apple are being in any way transparent is utter poppycock.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 22:59

    Parts of it are. You can just about see it from the train between Dorchester and London if you are paying attention...

    From the train you can see the big Mercedes building, a (narrow-looking) track, several aircraft, and a wide bumpy road. If your eyes follow that bumpy road it starts to bank, and then the trees get in the way.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 22:59

    Large chunks of it. You can see it on google earth/maps

    Cool !

    Linky time.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 23:01

    Large chunks of it. You can see it on google earth/maps

    So here I am trying to work it out on Google Earth. I have NO IDEA where to look.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 23:02

    So here I am trying to work it out on Google Earth. I have NO IDEA where to look.

    and I should have read your post!

  • Steven Roy15/06/2009 at 23:03

    All relevant Brooklans info

    http://www.brooklandsmuseum.com/

    http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkingdom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/MBWorldBrooklands.flash.skipintro.html

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:06

    look at the zune. itself ipod-esque. every version of the zune ever purchased can run the latest updates for FREE.

    In a desperate attempt to get people to buy it? Seriously, I don't know the answer.

    apple are spreading FUD on this issue. with the likely intention to capitalise on consumers stupidity.

    I don't see the FUD.

    i understand your position on this one, but pretending apple are being in any way transparent is utter poppycock.

    My position is that I think it is a pity that iPod Touch owners have to pay for the new features in the new version, I was just trying to explain the reasoning behind it.

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:09

    In a desperate attempt to get people to buy it? Seriously, I don't know the answer.

    the answer to me seems obvious. it is not illegal to offer free software updates (minor fixes or major versions) to one-time-purchase items. the only company who claim that it is are apple.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 23:10

    the answer to me seems obvious. it is not illegal to offer free software updates (minor fixes or major versions) to one-time-purchase items. the only company who claim that it is are apple.

    personally, i'd say its curtious to do that for your customers. if theres a problem or something that could easily be improved, your customers shouldnt have to pay for it.

  • Pat W15/06/2009 at 23:11

    All relevant Brooklans info

    Thanks. £9 for the museum and £4 for the Concorde bit.

    Not too bothered about the Merc bit..

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:12

    personally, i'd say its curtious to do that for your customers. if theres a problem or something that could easily be improved, your customers shouldnt have to pay for it.

    i still would happily pay. i really don't mind paying.

    i only object to having to swallow whatever nonsense they're spouting to justify their actions. when quite simply:

    "it cost us a bloomin' fortune to develop, so pay up"

    is perfectly acceptable.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 23:13

    i still would happily pay. i really don't mind paying.

    More so, since they are charging so little for 10.6. It's quite strange....

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:22

    the answer to me seems obvious. it is not illegal to offer free software updates (minor fixes or major versions) to one-time-purchase items. the only company who claim that it is are apple.

    I've just found stuff relating to the 802.11n update which explains that, according to Apple, it is compelled to charge for new features in a product due to the Sarbanes-Oxley Act:

    "Because of the Act, the company believes that if it sells a product, then later adds a feature to that product, it can be held liable for improper accounting if it recognizes revenue from the product at the time of sale, given that it hasn’t finished delivering the product at that point."

    So fixes are free, features have to be paid for.

    The iPhone isn't affected by this because of the residual income from the phone companies.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 23:23

    I've just found stuff relating to the 802.11n update which explains that, according to Apple, it is compelled to charge for new features in a product due to the Sarbanes-Oxley Act:

    Ah! I *knew* they had done this before for something.

    I was really annoyed about that one.

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:24

    So fixes are free, features have to be paid for.

    you can keep saying it...

    the zune updates came with plenty of new features.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 23:25

    Just something random here:

    http://cheapsmells.com/

    Good place for aftershaves and stuff at low prices. Thinking about getting me some more of that Ferrari aftershave.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 23:26

    Good place for aftershaves and stuff at low prices. Thinking about getting me some more of that Ferrari aftershave.

    Isn't that just Agip oil?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 23:27

    Isn't that just Agip oil?

    :D

    I've bought it before for £10 once, 'tis rather nice.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 23:28

    :D

    I've bought it before for £10 once, 'tis rather nice.

    A fiver down the esso garage, got a gallon of the stuff.

    I win..

    Oh you mean the ferrari no thte oil

  • Scott Woodwiss15/06/2009 at 23:28

    Oh you mean the ferrari no thte oil

    :D

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:29

    the zune updates came with plenty of new features.

    So Microsoft have decided to interpret the act differently. As I said, I'm not trying to justify the policy, just to explain it.

    Also, Safari is free to download, so fixes and updates are equally free.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 23:31

    So fixes are free, features have to be paid for.

    What a excuse. :D

    IE 7 + 8

    Outlook Express updates

    Vista

    Microsoft movie maker.

    Microsoft Defender

    Cyberlink Powerdvd

    MS Live Apps

    All have updates that add functionality and are free.

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:31

    Also, Safari is free to download, so fixes and updates are equally free.

    true, but that was always free.

    am guessing the sox interpretation relates only to purchased items?

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 23:39

    Aah, Sarbane Oxley discussion. Fun fun fun. Cranky about having to pay for something that others get for free? Tough noogies - deal with it!

    While I mean this in the nicest possible way (of course :D), threre are more important, F1 related things, to worry about

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:41

    While I mean this in the nicest possible way (of course :D), threre are more important, F1 related things, to worry about

    you're misinterpreting my take on things though. one more time, and then i give up...

    1) i am happy to pay for ipodtouch updates.

    2) i just wish apple didn't spout bs to justify their pricing.

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:43

    threre are more important, F1 related things, to worry about

    thinking about it i actually disagree. f1 really isn't important right now and i don't care enough to worry about it. am much happier discussing technology.

    formula 1 can go flush itself down the loo so far as i'm concerned this week.

    a shiny new 13" mbp though, and i'm all ears.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 23:44

    a shiny new 13" mbp though, and i'm all ears.

    with the half speed SATA connector?

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:45

    with the half speed SATA connector?

    i have no sata devices, so it doesn't affect me at the moment.

    do we know if it's battery related, or what the reasoning is?

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:45

    with the half speed SATA connector?

    Which makes no practical difference for any of the hard drives currently supplied.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 23:45

    Which makes no practical difference for any of the hard drives currently supplied.

    Unless you're running SSD

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:46

    i have no sata devices, so it doesn't affect me at the moment.

    He means the internal drive. You won't notice the difference.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 23:46

    thinking about it i actually disagree. f1 really isn't important right now and i don't care enough to worry about it. am much happier discussing technology.

    i would have to agree.

    formula 1 can go flush itself down the loo so far as i'm concerned this week.

    that too.

    i'm most glad about not being around for the rest of this week, because it means F1 can screw itself up, and instead of me watching, i can just have a look at hte end of the week and see what the cards have dealt us

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 23:46

    do we know if it's battery related, or what the reasoning is?

    it's cheaper?

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:46

    am guessing the sox interpretation relates only to purchased items?

    So it seems. Further reading tells me it might not be SOx but another accounting law:

    "This is a SAB 104 (Revenue Recognition) and EITF 00-21 (multiple deliverables) issue. You cannot recognize revenue until delivery of the service/goods. They have already recognized the revenue from these ipod sales. If they were to give this update out for free, this would imply that they had not finished delivery and could not have recognized the revenue in previous period. This would require a restatement of prior periods' financial statements.."

    Looking at Flibster's list, the other thing that springs to mind is the hardware/software link. The iPod Touch is sold as a complete package, hardware and software, whereas Microsoft mainly sells software, crucially software that can run on any compatible hardware.

    Doesn't explain the Xbox though.

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:46

    i'm most glad about not being around for the rest of this week, because it means F1 can screw itself up, and instead of me watching, i can just have a look at hte end of the week and see what the cards have dealt us

    hear hear. am in exactly the same frame of mind.

    wake me up when june ends... or something to that effect.

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 23:47

    Doesn't explain the Xbox though.

    Or the PS3 or Wii. All have had extra features added.

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 23:47

    wake me up when june ends... or something to that effect.

    yup. wake me up when the season ends infact

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:47

    do we know if it's battery related, or what the reasoning is?

    it's cheaper?

    could be. i really have no idea. unlike the removal of firewire though, am not in the slightest bit concerned.

  • Jeremy15/06/2009 at 23:48

    1) i am happy to pay for ipodtouch updates.

    2) i just wish apple didn't spout bs to justify their pricing.

    Sorry. I'm shooting off at the mouth without having read much of the previous discussion. Surely if it was BS, it would have been debunked very publicly?

    I also want it known that I don't mean to sound like I'm discouraging discussion. I realize that the way I say things makes it hard to believe, but I want to make sure my position is clear

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:48

    yup. wake me up when the season ends infact

    i like that!

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 23:48

    could be. i really have no idea. unlike the removal of firewire though, am not in the slightest bit concerned.

    haven't they put it back in for the MBPro - but removed the audio in jack...

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:49

    haven't they put it back in for the MBPro - but removed the audio in jack...

    they've put it back (yay), but the audio in/out is a single cable which again is fine by me, because the reason i need firewire is for... an audio interface :)

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 23:50

    they've put it back (yay), but the audio in/out is a single cable which again is fine by me, because the reason i need firewire is for... an audio interface :)

    A single cable? Let me guess - that you have to pay for?

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:51

    Surely if it was BS, it would have been debunked very publicly?

    no idea. andy's looking now i think, so if there's any evidence i'm sure he'll find it.

    my take is that, no-one else has even hinted of such a requirement before apple, and so far as i know, nobody's tried to copy the approach since.

  • Paul15/06/2009 at 23:52

    Sorry. I'm shooting off at the mouth without having read much of the previous discussion. Surely if it was BS, it would have been debunked very publicly?

    This is Apple we're talking about. They sprout BS all the time and get away with it.

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:53

    A single cable? Let me guess - that you have to pay for?

    pass. but if you do, it's of no interest to me.

    the 13" mbp is perfect for me in every single way except for the glossy screen, which i'd prefer to be matt. and also the price, because it's not free i cannot have one now!

    :)

  • Jon Waldock15/06/2009 at 23:54

    i like that!

    i am loosing patience with the sport i once loved, very quickly infact, and its quite obvious that i'm not sticking with it for the racing. and some people may say "well its f1, if you want good racing go elsewhere" well i dont accept that, f1 is meant to be the best, but at the moment, its (for want of a better, slightly stronger word) weeing itself up the way. and i hate it, infact it makes me angry, really angry.

    as far as im concerned the only reason i havent left it all together is because of you guys, but soon im going to walk away if things dont get better, and franckly (see what i did there?!) F1 can take me or leave me, i honestly dont care which.

    rant over

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:54

    haven't they put it back in for the MBPro - but removed the audio in jack...

    Audio in now combined with headphone socket on 13" MBP only. 15 and 17" retain separate ports (digital optical too)

  • Flibster15/06/2009 at 23:55

    pass. but if you do, it's of no interest to me.

    But it is to people who say.... want to use a non-usb headset for skype calls

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:56

    But it is to people who say.... want to use a non-usb headset for skype calls

    umm, depends.

    bluetooth is built-in, but and if i ever use skype on the current mbp, i use the built-in mic and a pair of headphones. that setup will still work just fine in the new 13".

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:57

    A single cable? Let me guess - that you have to pay for?

    It's designed to take a combined headphone/microphone connector - as used on the iPhone and iPod Touch. You will have to buy suitable headphones or a cable, but the connector is standard.

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:57

    Audio in now combined with headphone socket on 13" MBP only. 15 and 17" retain separate ports (digital optical too)

    am guessing the 13" loses dig-opt? not that i ever used it.

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:58

    no idea. andy's looking now i think, so if there's any evidence i'm sure he'll find it.

    I can't see anything definite.

  • me15/06/2009 at 23:59

    no idea. andy's looking now i think, so if there's any evidence i'm sure he'll find it.

    I can't see anything definite.

    no worries. the CC is still primed for tomorrow evening ;)

  • Andy Taylor15/06/2009 at 23:59

    am guessing the 13" loses dig-opt? not that i ever used it.

    Digital in is gone, but digital out remains. It's there on the 15" or you can connect your own firewire/usb audio interface.

  • me16/06/2009 at 00:02

    as far as im concerned the only reason i havent left it all together is because of you guys, but soon im going to walk away if things dont get better, and franckly (see what i did there?!) F1 can take me or leave me, i honestly dont care which.

    :D

    totally understandable too.

    without spc i'd probably just keep watching the races until it sorts itself out, but i've really no interest right now in who-said-what-to-who-or-when-or-why.

  • Jon Waldock16/06/2009 at 00:04

    without spc i'd probably just keep watching the races until it sorts itself out, but i've really no interest right now in who-said-what-to-who-or-when-or-why.

    if they find a deal they'll still be bickering, and if they break away then they'll just argue about which is better. aaargh it makes me so angry

  • Paul16/06/2009 at 00:05

    as far as im concerned the only reason i havent left it all together is because of you guys, but soon im going to walk away if things dont get better, and franckly (see what i did there?!) F1 can take me or leave me, i honestly dont care which.

    Well, management comes and goes. We've seen the FISA/FOCA war, this latest one is more of the same. I was younger then and didn't really understand, so I just watched the racing. I'm more worried about the politics now, but I trust it will all work out in the wash up.

  • Jon Waldock16/06/2009 at 00:07

    I'm more worried about the politics now, but I trust it will all work out in the wash up.

    it feels a bit like my life at the moment....i know it will sort itself out eventually, but until then, you have to watch all the crap and uncertaintly happening

    i like my rants and mini speeches, maybe i should become a politician ;)

  • me16/06/2009 at 00:10

    I'm more worried about the politics now, but I trust it will all work out in the wash up.

    am with you on that.

  • me16/06/2009 at 00:10

    i like my rants and mini speeches, maybe i should become a politician ;)

    you can have my vote.

    ...what are you policies?

  • Steven Roy16/06/2009 at 00:10

    Well, management comes and goes. We've seen the FISA/FOCA war, this latest one is more of the same. I was younger then and didn't really understand, so I just watched the racing. I'm more worried about the politics now, but I trust it will all work out in the wash up.

    If the politics seriously has an eddect on anyone the best thing to do is ignore it because it won't affect the racing at all. I think it could still go a few months yet but it has no real effect on the on track stuff. We may end up with a more interesting off season as a result as driver contracts can;t be sorted until all this bull is cleared up.

  • me16/06/2009 at 00:11

    We may end up with a more interesting off season as a result as driver contracts can;t be sorted until all this bull is cleared up.

    you could be onto something there.

  • Jon Waldock16/06/2009 at 00:12

    ...what are you policies?

    1) important dates for peoples lives tattoo'd on their arm....so e.g you'd have 16th June tattoo'd on your arm ;)

    2) everyone would get a free milky bar

    3) bring back slush puppies

    4) bring in a seperation of sport and politics

    5) make SPC funded by tax's

  • Paul16/06/2009 at 00:14

    5) make SPC funded by tax's

    British tax payers I hope.

  • me16/06/2009 at 00:15

    5) make SPC funded by tax's

    British tax payers I hope.

    :D

  • me16/06/2009 at 00:15

    3) bring back slush puppies

    my favourite!

  • Jon Waldock16/06/2009 at 00:15

    British tax payers I hope.

    i was thinking australia tax payers actually ;)

  • Flibster16/06/2009 at 00:16

    3) bring back slush puppies

    They've not gone away.

  • Jon Waldock16/06/2009 at 00:16

    my favourite!

    me too, when safeways was safeways they used to have them near me, but then morisons took over and they got rid of them. boo

  • Jon Waldock16/06/2009 at 00:17

    They've not gone away.

    yeah i know, but they're harder to get hold of near me.

    what i mean by that sentance is....GIVE US BACK SLUSH PUPPIES MORRISONS MALDON!!!

  • Jon Waldock16/06/2009 at 00:18

    My parting comment has to go as such..

    I know Planet F1 isn't always the most reliable, but i give it its dues and try and read quotes and bits to see the actual story...

    But i think this editorial has gone a tad too far

    It's all Lewis's fault

  • Steven Roy16/06/2009 at 00:19

    5) make SPC funded by tax's

    I misread that. Thought it said taxis. I thought there was going ro be a levy on taxi drivers. It would be more popular. Except with taxi drivers

  • Andy Taylor16/06/2009 at 00:28

    But i think this editorial has gone a tad too far

    It does say at the end that the blame may also be placed on Trulli (for going off) or Vettel/Kubica (for bringing out the safety car).

    You could take this further - by blaming the race director for deploying the safety car - the FIA for setting the rules and so on back to the controversial creation of the universe.

  • me16/06/2009 at 00:36

    You could take this further - by blaming the race director for deploying the safety car - the FIA for setting the rules and so on back to the controversial creation of the universe.

    isn't it easier to just blame steven? pf1 no nothing :)

  • Andy Taylor16/06/2009 at 00:44

    isn't it easier to just blame steven? pf1 no nothing :)

    Damn, I completely forgot about that.

    Must be his fault you will be paying for the iPod Touch upgrade then. (runs)