The teams are threatening to pull out of the sport and we're hearing complaints about the budget caps all over the place. However, it's time to look to the positives, and see what else is happening following the Spanish GP:
- Jake Humphrey discusses all things motorhome, and ignoring the fact that he walked into a door (it happens to everyone), he describes the Beeb's offering: "Ours has a little kitchen... some metal steps that have stripped the skin from everyone's shins and carpet on the walls... but it's a cosy home for our team and I think I'll grow to love it by the time we've lived here for a few races." Sounds... lovely.
- Autosport have their Paddock Life edition out and it describes karting with Anthony Davidson, the motorhomes (of course), and an anonymous anecdote about a driver being lent a car over the break.
- Ollie has a great caption contest up on BlogF1, which features a certain driver and is pretty topical considering the ongoing speculation about his commitment. If you're feeling particularly witty, head on over and leave a caption. Let us know if you do.
That'll do it for now. Apparently Ferrari are having a super-hasty and important meeting today, but who knows if we'll hear anything from them. Hope to hear from you though, as I'll see you in the comments.
Wow. Another early night for everyone? :D
Sure is quiet isn't it?
Yep - people have been sleeping earlier than usual lately. I used to catch up with you before you sleep. Now, all I see is an empty room...
Still about - but catching up on the work I should have been doing this morning, but was stuck in the office. :(
You can't work in the office? Am confused...
Hmm, not sure why.
Maybe it's driven by Mr C's late night activity around here
Cant build the servers that are sat in my home office.
I think trying to keep up with Amy has broken everyone
I've been working on my college project. Due in Thursday. Feel better for having actually done something to it now.. it has been sat here for days with nothing new added to it.
I tried to do it over the weekend but only managed to write notes for it. Couldn't get the right words into the actual thing.
Sure looks like it, yes. Good thing my timezone isn't very far from hers. :D
Any progress is good progress. Don't let us distract you. :)
Closing doohickey and tweetdeck was the key :-)
LOL
Not sure what's funny, Paul. Or did you just move pages? :)
Woops, yes I did. I gotta watch the doohickey
No worries. Just don't go moving back now. You know how Mr C is with that. :D Gets everyone to start commenting on this thread too. :)
I think Facebook is one of those "young person things", speaking as what my niece calls "an oldy".
Funnily enough, it's getting invaded by the not-so-young people now. Most of my older relatives (including my parents) use it. Me and my younger sis stay as far away from it as we can...
Don't ya hate that? Like meeting your parents in a bar or something.
Oh yeah. That's why we're staying away from it. :D
Some links are up. It's a work in progress. ;)
Hey guy, good early morning from overpriced Paris airport :-)
Bonjour, Wolf! En route to Spain?
yep, 4 hours nothing to do before the next flight :-)
Oooh... Ready for the trip of a lifetime? Surely this has to be bigger than attending a GP?
probably :-) it kind of hit me when I bought the latest F1Racing at the airport in Hong Kong last night and so the Bacardi add with Schumi on the back of the cover. then I realized that tmr I will be in the car with that guy :-)
Pictures are required. :D Page 22 with Schumi is the goal - unlikely, but hey, you never know... :P Do you have an iPod loaded with Felipe Baby? Hahaha! :)
Nikon ready, video camera ready :-) and 2006 Chinese GP program ready too, that was the last time he won the race
Ooooh... very good. :D No Page 22 or Felipe Baby, though? :( I'm sure his mentor would be amused by it... :D
I forgot the Page 22 mag at home :-( but Felipe baby ... hm, will see :-) iPod with me ...
Good, good. :D I think the issue with Page 22 is still on some stands in Europe, in case you want to give it a try. :)
BTW, Wolf, how many winners are there?
What a prize. You are living the dream of every F1 fan.
Now if only you could keep the car :-)
i dont even like schumi but im jealous! Being driven broue by him is an experience that you will share with very few people on this earth and that is just incredible. Plus hey, free trip to spain?
as far as I know 27 globally
Side trip to Monaco?
that was an epic misspelling of "driven around"
not this time. went to Monaco in 2007, will take few years break before going back :-)
Wow. I wish I could afford even the local race.
this is exactly the kind of message that Mr Ecclestone should be bombarded with every single day...
the trick is to move to melbourne, living here makes the race cheaper ;) what do you mean thats obsessive? I think moving my entire life for one weekend a year was a good thing!
Yeah not a bad idea, that's where I was born. Got a good job here unfortunately. It's actually all the "other costs" that make the race hard to get to. Still, next year is a must for me, already saving.
He is, but he's not listening. :P
:D Yes, you are a perfect fit for Sidepodcast, all right.
Like plane & accommodation? Good luck in saving up! :)
Simply doesn't care I think. He's pressing on with more of these new Asian GPs, with little hope of any local interest. It's becoming a purely made for TV sport.
Exactly. It's not that for away, but everything adds up. Especially with my own little race car siphoning off all my spare cash.
Me. A few weeks ago I told you about a blog I read, written by the Beeb's host of F1GP on race day (whose name now escapes me) but I was unable to locate it for you. It turns out it was a different guy (I think) and have now found it. I notice you have a link in the daily to the current blog (by Jake Humphrey) so you have probably read it already anyway. So after that confusing explanation here's the link. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jakehumphrey/2009/04/hello_blog_12_1130_monday.html
Me. It seems I just got Jake's name wrong in the first place. Which is the reason I couldn't find it. I feel as though have dug a very big hole and am now burying myself so i should just stop......
Yeah. I was invited to the Italian Grand Prix but because I'm going to Le Mans already and want another holiday I'm going to have to pass on the chance this year...
http://mantovani.zip.net/arch2009-05-01_2009-05-31.html#2009_05-11_17_59_59-100063171-0
Anybody link to Bruno yet? ;)
Nope. :)
:-)
Nice pic! He didn't go for the obvious Rubens-Jenson theme. Massa looks pitiful there. :D
It's darn quiet in here this morning, no? :)
The usual. Just started listening to the FIF1 podcast...
Oooh. Anything of interest? Any partisan defense of Sutil? I didn't listen to their Bahrain podcast because of that.
Sutil didn't seem too bothered about the crash - he saw it as a racing incident and as he's unhurt, it's all OK...
Fisi seemed to think he was one of the fastest at the end, probably because of the tyres...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/brawngp/5309522/Brawn-GP-did-not-give-team-orders.html
David Coulthard's column. He said:
It's a good read and I'm inclined to believe him. The team saw a better opportunity for Jenson and Rubens couldn't make his last set of tyres work. That is all :)
Well, because he WAS one of the fastest. But he already lost too much time by then.
Yep, sure looks like it. :) See? Nothing to be suspicious of. Nice to see DC have an article not mentioning Red Bull and looking at other leading lights. :D
Hey, nothing wrong with DC mentioning Red Bull though - he is still a team member...
SO it's kinda pointless - a consolation goal, in effect ;)
I'm not saying it's wrong - but I wouldn't want him to be talking about Red Bull all the time. :)
Yep, you can say that. :) But there's no points for fastest lap - which he didn't even get. ;)
Still, am hopeful that this pace will help Sutil score in Monaco. :D
Well, Al Grogan wins the Drivers Championship on BatRacer, in a BMW! :D
BMW also took the constructors, with the car that was supposed to be one of the slowest on the grid.
Well done, Al!
And we thought Scott would pull it off from pole... ;) Did he finish 2nd ahead of Lou?
Abu Dhabi Race (Point Scoring Positions)
1st Grogan
2nd McCarthy
3rd Woodwiss
4th Van Spaandonck
5th Matthews
6th Johnson
7th Brunell
8th Fibster
Only in BATracer could that happen! Well done guys ;)
:( Damn brake problem forcing me to pit
Well done Al anyways :)
Oh and morning all :)
Journeyer, I added your first comment to your wiki page.
Those guys know what they are doing, simlple as ;)
Morning to those who have just arrived!
Right, quick check - who's up for F1 1999?
And good job to Lou for fighting her way back to 6th - a great drive. :)
BMW winning will make RG very happy. Maybe Dr Mario should hire Al. ;)
Yes we do :P
Thanks! What a bland first comment, though - I'm not sure the video is even up anymore. :D And true enough, it's not. ;)
Sure thing, perhaps I should team with someone other than Al this time or keep us together seeing as we work so well?
sign me up scotty :P
aha! may I ask which of the winning duo you are? bear in mind that if you say James Matthews I will moan at you for edging me out for 4th ;)
hooray just got home from work to find f1 racing in the mailbox. My night is planned out now :D
I am Matthews :P
It IS James :D
[Insert generic moan followed by grudgingly given congratulations]
Good on ya, Amy! What's on the cover?
cover is identical to the UK one except it says 'brawn gp exclusive' instead of 'inside brawn gp' and its issue 146 instead of 159 :D
OK, here it is:
http://batracer.com/-cj?&D&40677
Password is tatohead ;)
Buemi?? Hehe. :D
Should be interesting to see who will join Jordan, Stewart, and... gasp! BAR. ;)
oooh... will definitely buy that, then! ;)
I've already bagged a Stewart ;)
sidepodspace update:
just turned on my tv, homer simpson is going into space.
"3, 2, 1 make rocket go now"
perhaps not quite the same as the launch i slept through.
In my opinion, F1 1999 is the closest carset/season out of all of them. Seeing as there were many teams who managed to get to or were near the front.
Plus, I'm credited as one of the main contributors :D
And I've taken a Jordan, I've password protected the other seat. Want to see if Al is intrested first.
Flibster's also taken a McLaren too.
I'll sit this one out, I got a little bored with the repetition of BATracer towards the end
Coolness! McLaren, Ferrari, Jordan, Stewart, and Williams are all solid teams to join. Even Sauber and Prost bagged a podium that year. BAR will be an interesting prospect... ;)
Yup.
Wonder who'll be my teammate.
Don't forget Benetton too. Fisi was on course to win at the Nurburgring had his headrest not come loose and caused him to spin off.
Mind you, Wurz did describe it as his least favourite car...
So you are!
Iv gone for Ferrari again, cant disappoint the tifosi can I?
Oh yeah! So 8 out of the 11 teams are going to be competitive. ;)
All this talk of the Sidepodcast BatRacer games, I've forgotten to check my other games :D
why dont you have a go? ;)
Doing too many other stuff to give BATracer proper attention. You guys knock yourselves out. :D
Dont say that!
For anyone who has missed it, F1 Big Picture is up to date now: http://www.f1bigpicture.com
Not out of the race! Out in enjoyment. :P
Love it. It's my new wallpaper so Cheers!
Really enjoying the big picture so thanks again!
BAR weren't too bad on occasions. In a way it's actually 9 teams, but it's the reliability that's the issue with the BAR.
But they're not wallpaper size, right?
Besides, you know the 97 carset has Lola :D
in good news, THAT woman won't be in Monaco as their Australian tour kicks off this weekend
Wow - has someone actually tried using it for a whole season??
Well, well. I guess that's why she went to Spain instead. When will the Aussie tour end? I think they're heading here to Manila once that's done.
Yup, and won a race in a storm at Monaco! :D
having driven the most unreliable car in the 2009 carset, you can get minimise the gremlins fairly well with the right settings
Well it's a public carset as well as a private one, so the game can't start until someone picks them ;)
Thats epic on a scale with Greek myths!
:D
which team was that?
I definitely agree - what was your reaction when you saw it?
last show is on the 30th I think.
To be honest, I think some people just go for Lola because they like the paint scheme! I do!
Well I made it fit - it will do just fine, thanks!
Erm, probably one that's unpostable here. ;)
Makes sense - they'll be here 1st or 2nd week of June.
They're coming to Odense too :(
Ferrari.
The orange and blue really work, makes me wish Mastercard had more involvement in F1
They're the most unreliable?? Dang... Is this the Ferrari of old again?
ING uses orange and blue. :D
We finished 5th in the constructors with 4 podiums, so yes ;)
If you mean comedy Ferrari of the late 80s and early 90s, then yes, yes it is :D
dont they use orange and red now, and yellow and blue previous?
I never thought I'd say I miss last years livery ;) bring back the navy!
Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later. 10 seasons to great success - this was bound to happen.
"Yes, yes it is." - FWIW, is anyone familiar with the show "Phineas and Ferb"? :)
They used orange, yellow, and blue last year. Now, they have orange, yellow, and red. But the text of ING is still in blue.
Good example: me and my team mate actually crashed into each other at one race!
I hope no one minds, but I have updated the wiki page for the 2009 BatRacer game :)
Oh... Dang. :O
By all means, please do. :)
Im sure they chose their livery by looking at swatches and being unable to come to a decision ;)
Speaking of my team mate, he's just joined McLaren - must have had enough of me! :P
No, I think this was their inspiration :D
No words can do that justice.... :)
I'm not sure how it all works, but I don't seem to have broken anything :D
Looks good, with pic and everything :)
Is someone going to set up a page for the new game?
Thanks :) I don't know how to add pages yet, so I just edited what was there.
seeing as how its Rubens birthday on the day of Monaco qualifying, I predict the 7th cake of the season will be spotted in the paddock.
Did anyone see the cake BMW made Heidfeld? looked kinda odd to me :P
anyone got a pic?
i shall drop.io all my cake pics :D
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/5/9345.html
3rd pic
Morning all :) congrats to Al for winnning the world championship on BATracer! Was a really good, tight season.
That's a cake? It looks like a model of the next Tilke-Drome!
2009 cakes so far. both of heidfelds are pretty rubbish.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/cake-bahrain-ferrari-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/cake-sepang-str-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/cake-shanghai-bmw-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/cake-shanghai-renault-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/cake-spain-bmw-jpg
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/cake-spain-mclaren-jpg
mmmmm cake
Well they aren't wasting the budget on cakes are they?
Pastries are not covered under the budget cap... so expect bits of F1 car made of cake in future!
You can clearly see the upgrades BMW bought to the cake between shanghai and barcelona worked on the track ;)
Well we've already got F3 cars made of carrots and potatos so.... :P
maybe thats why Renault are keeping Piquet, his birthday is so close to Alonsos that sharing one cake between two drivers saves the team $$
Running on chocolate too!
http://www.justin.tv/tf1s_mansell
Biggest accident in modern F1 history - tune in now!
Morning all
Canada wasn't it? ;)
And it's done. Still amazes me every time.
cake economising
Nope - Spa 1998.
The announcement that Honda pulled out of the sport?
Could be nice cake, just doesn't look so good :P
I've updated the wiki page for the 1986 game as well, I'm getting into this now :D
Spa my friend ;)
I tune in and see Rubens looking hurt, boo! :P
Yay. I heart the wiki :)
It's a joke after my own stupidity lost me a point on the twitter round of the panel
Hehehe, Trulli and panis almost agruing there over the safety car. :D
How come Nick gets two cakes?
*the spare car, even
Wait til you see Schumi arguing with DC... :D
Oh, I didn't get that. ;)
first one was for 150 gps, second was for his geburstag. Check out my awesome German skills.
I remember the race very well, I mean who doesn't? ;)
und mad skillz! :D geburstag = birthday?
Those who didn't get to watch it? ;) In which case, they should.
Alesi vs. Senna in Phoenix 1990 on the mc_kik_live channel.
I thought it was beer. All german words sounds like beer to me
Don't we all? :D
And a Minardi on the front row! :O
seriously, all i remember from doing german at school when i was 13 is the song 'zum geburstag viel glueck' aka happy birthday to you
Wow, German and Finnish. You is multilingual.
You did German in a Dunedin School?
You just wait - Kathi will clip you round the ear for that one ;)
in a 10 week term we had to do 3 weeks of German, 3 weeks of French then 4 weeks of Maori, then choose one to do the rest of the year. I chose German :D
I just plead ignorant Aussi
Just learned now:
Before Sebastian Buemi, Gregor Foitek was the last Swiss F1 driver - last drove in 1990. :)
What a hurried way to learn a language :(
hence why I remember no French, and only the Maori you pick up in every day life.
Wrong - was Jean Denis Delatraz in 1995. ;)
Not hurried really, they had the rest of the year to learn the language properly.
Daaaang - I thought he was French! ;)
Like at the start of the rugby?
I got 99.7% in my end of year German exam. I wish I'd studied it beyond that year, I quite enjoyed it :D
Bernie is now saying on Autosport that he's willing to allow the British Grand prix to be skipped a year if Donington isn't ready
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75265
precisely. and the song about colours. Ma is white, whero is red, kakariki green. Ask any NZer, they'll sing you a verse ;)
If Newey is the best designer/engineer right now who is second best in the paddock?
I can't even name most teams designers. I do have a shocking memory though.
He hates Silverstone THAT much?! What sweet nothings will he tell Tom Wheatcroft to convince him to give Gillett a 2nd chance?
In the past, I would've said Rory Byrne. But now? It's hard to tell. I'd pick Nicolas Tombazis of Ferrari over Paddy Lowe of McLaren.
It's intresting watching the opinions of Patrick Head and Frank Williams back in 1998. If only they knew what was coming...
*clips paul round the ear*
Hehehe.
Oops. *ignorant aussi*
Nice cars tho, those german ones
Courtesy of DoningtonF1's RT:
Donington construction pics
I am rewatching the live show, god I can talk. Oops.
:D
I meant 3 weeks to decide whether to continue or not... seems quick to me!
Ohhh... well, it depends on the person, I guess. :)
Told ya ;)
I promise to be better behaved
Your punishment for offences against the German language is suspended due to the fact that there has been a change of culture within you and that the course of conduct - or similar - will not be repeated.
Spoken like a true WMSC member. :D
Phew!
I do like the sound of that Mercedes safety car....
MWM are reporting that Cosworth have updated their 2006 engine ready for next year.
Apparently it is producing more power than the other quoted F1 engines at 18,000rpm and can go to 20,000rpm... Hmm, how has that been possible without a major backer and no track time?
It's easy to create more power. But will it be reliable?
It wasn't too great in 2006, and I have my doubts about how an engine that hasn't had track time could do well next year. But then again, BrawnGP proved me wrong so maybe Cosworth can do it too?
There's some key differences: BrawnGP developed their car when they were still Honda, so the funding was there, as was the track time. By the time Honda pulled out, the car was mostly done.
Also, Brawn never lost their key people. Ross Brawn made sure that he hung on to all the people he'd need to be doing this well. Cosworth doesn't have that luxury; Mr C did say that most of them are at Mercedes now.
Very true. But clearly they have been developing the engine somehow...
Ok I'm starting to get obssessed with the wiki....
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/BATRacer+:+1999
They'd probably be developing it with the bare minimum of people. The engine will work, but will it be reliable? Will it also be driver-friendly in the way it delivers the power? Power and revs alone do not make a good engine.
Exactly. Something that only track time can tell you. This is the danger of banning in-season testing - sometimes the best analyst and modeller is the guy behind the wheel relying on the 'seat of the pants' feel :)
Ooh the winning teammates from the last game are back together ;)
Simulators, rig testing and cfd and wind tunnel work can only do so much. It's not until you actually physically start using something that you get a true result.
Yep, can't break up the team that has won the constructors title in the last two games :P
Hopefully I can find me a good teammate ;)
Careful.
I'm arranging a meet-up at Silverstone. However, I'm having two fairly fundamental difficulties - where to have the meet-up and when to hold it. I'm there from Thursday evening to Sunday afternoon, though I'd prefer the meeting not to be on Saturday evening because my campsite is having a hog roast then and I'm not sure they allow people who aren't having a tent there to attend.
Watching th live replay: Christine makes me laugh. "Stupid Christian Klien and his driving"
Funnily enough, it’s getting invaded by the not-so-young people now. Most of my older relatives (including my parents) use it {Comment #19}
I can't even get Facebook to load, which really annoys my brother because he's on there. I haven't succeeded in persuaded him to use Ning yet...
Hey guy, good early morning from overpriced Paris airport {Comment #23}
Good morning! Hope you have a really great time :)
SO it’s kinda pointless - a consolation goal, in effect {Comment #64}
It was the difference between a 14th demonstrating why Force India need Fisi on the team and a 14th demonstrating the opposite. It wasn't as if it was his fault the fuel rig failed, after all. The fact that the only points he got were brownie points is almost irrelevant, for brownie points are better than no points at all.
cover is identical to the UK one except it says ‘brawn gp exclusive’ instead of ‘inside brawn gp’ and its issue 146 instead of 159 {Comment #87}
I take it your edition started in June 1997, then (F1 Racing started in March 1996)?
Good to hear your issue has arrived - enjoy it :)
Thanks Journeyer
Thanks Scott
Thanks Lukeh
Good point. I'm just not a Fisi fan and I think someone else should be in that seat. Sorry :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/2009/05/f1-gossip-column-1.html
I can see why Mr. C. isn't keen on BBC's F1 mole - it's more like the F1 Roundup. Where was the inside scoop on any of those stories? Are they playing it too safe because it's the BBC?
seriously, Jakes blog is more 'this is what I saw in the paddock' than the mole.
Agreed. Him, Joe Saward and James Allen provide a good enough insight...
AUTOSPORT's "Paddock Life" is also pretty good...
Thing is, on the quali weights post that Mr C complained on, all the comments are full of confusion about what is going on.
So, if the "mole" is trying to clear things up for the fans, he's not doing a great job. If he's trying to provide some gossip, he's not doing a good job. It's hard to see what the actual aim is?
Well, they had the opportunity to employ someone decent and they passed it up...
Who did you gave in mind? :D
This is one of the guys I'll see at the WSR event at Silverstone. His name's Jean Ragnotti and well...I'll let you judge just how mad he is :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okj8aHcn_Yw
Remember - that Clio is FRONT wheel drive :D
'gave' - i mean 'have'. :D
Are you typing on my Blackberry? Knew it would end up somewhere...
Got a comment in moderation.
Hahaha! :D No, it was my iPod's fault. Hahaha! Nah, just kidding. ;)
That's coz you're supposed to be writing your booky-wook! ;)
Ah yes – well, it's T minus two hours until the Gordon Murray interview, and then it's just about done...
WHat's it about? The Ground effect era?
The fan car?
It's a bit more general than that. More details nearer publication – we don't want any peasants rushing out a spoiler, do we?
Quick someone get me away from the Wiki.... :D
*tsk* What have you been up to now? :P
We'd never do that ... but I'm looking forward to it now!
I'm adding to the 1999 game's page. I can't stop now I know what I'm doing :D
No, no, I love it. Keep it up :)
G'Day everyone! What's been happening?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorsport/formulaonediary/5312314/Spanish-GP-its-a-lock-out.html
Here is another good 'mole' :)
Would have loved to have that one in, but the concept was to do bespoke shoots of all the featured cars. Bernie's garage was out of bounds...
Heh. 'Twas ever thus with Tony D...
Booo! Stupid Bernie. :(
Oh good :) Well off to Uni now, so Wiki editting will have to wait. in the mean time I give you the page for the 1999 game: http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/BATRacer+:+1999
Very good! Told you it was a close carset ;)
:D
:D
dawn raid?
:D
he sounded like the most miserable man on earth. presumably because croftie was interviewing and not holly?
*groans*
:(
Can I just say in my defence, it wasn't originally my idea?
ah-ha. so the spanish visit was to ensure there were no "lewis left lonely in monaco this year" stories?
pat from renault, at least in the engineering stakes.
mind you he's well and truly buggered up the '09 regs, so maybe not.
"12 months ago she was all over the grid in Monaco, this year, with a rubbish car, Lewis's lady is nowhere to be seen"
I think so - and apparently, then went to the Mediterranean the day after Spain...
And I'd give her credit for that - a public show of support for Lewis even in the tough times. Not every WAG does that...
:)
in which case, i hate to admit it, but the hamilton's have finally made a good PR move. it took them 2 and a half years to learn, but they got there in the end.
Is this not you then?
she probably doesn't realise he's not doing well. Does she even know what an F1 car looks like?
she is starting a new tour next week though...
:D :P :D
awesome!
Yes, but the idea originally came up in the 2009 game driver chat!
ummmmm
that's out of her hands, really. if anything, i'd give her even more credit. she could've just said that she needed time to prepare for what will be a very long tour, but she chose to spend some of that time with lewis.
Ah, where it should be.
The McLaren staffer is thinking, "Oh, dear. Oh, dear, dear, dear." :D
Proof it was Selidor's idea:
"Well looks like a certain RBR driver followed my advice, even if said advice was simply "do well" as for the next SPC BATracer, could go retro again and do 1999 - the car comparisions are up at (left link out to prevent moderation)
as you can see the playing field is rather even "
See?
The expression of the guy in the background is priceless :)
he's thinking. if she breaks anything i'm gonna be here all night... again!
Exactly. :)
I think he's thinking "Oh Lewis, Why, Why, Why???" :)
Yup. But I'm not bothered what discussions take place over there.
:D
I can't understand why I'm struggling so much on this assignmrnt, it should be so easy!
It's comparing, contrasting and analysing open and closed sourced operating systems within a small or medium enterprise business.. he's expecting us to talk about the nitty gritty of computing though a thing, something i don't like writing about :(
What we don't get to see is the bit where, once inside, she lifts her knees up but finds she can't get out again, and flounders around looking like an idiot.
Or is that just me?
OK, just proving I wasn't the one who suggested a new game. :)
ollie needs to use that in a caption comp. love it.
i would've lifted you out, but i was taking the pictures.
that is easy, what have you got so far?
Start with a bullet list of pros and cons for either option. Then it's just a matter of expounding and connecting the dots.
:D !
a lot of nonsense, grr. It's annoying because it should be mega easy but my mind doesn't want to go going, im going through various aspects of the OS (reliability, efficiency, security, etc) but our lecturer put at the bottom 'DO NOT COMPARE WINDOWS AND LINUX' so i'm just trying to subtle get around referencing them...
awwww
see this is a girlfriend who is allowed in the car
It looks like she was having enough trouble holding up an umbrella tbh on Sunday
I would look at
- reliability
- efficiency
- security
- support (for end-users)
- cost
That should get you going.
to sum it up in tweet form:
open source os's have a lower cost entry point and require less expensive equipment. however, nobody likes using them.
i bet she climbed in herself.
Erm... No disrespect intended, but I think her built allows her to fit in the car easier.
you're saying nicole is a man?
although this face says 'don't touch anything'
bingo. but this is a paper, so he'd need to be a bit more... verbose.
erm... she's a proud american woman, is what i'm saying. :)
:D
oh dear.
heheh, can imagine her going to touch various buttons with Heikki slapping her hand away from them everytime :D
maybe if i repeat it 200 times... i can argue i was trying to get the point across? :D
cheers though guys, has helped.
"oooh, what does THIS button do?" ;)
right.
in my experience, introducing open source on the desktop is a world of hurt. no-one has any confidence in it. nothing looks like it does at home, and people can't relate to it.
it's different in the server room of course, almost the opposite in fact. depends which approach you take when tackling the paper.
Almost forgot: look at user-friendliness as well.
*wheels predominantly fall off*
good points, mr c. it's an informative paper rather than a persuasive one, so i think he can mention all that and be all right. :)
although, isn't her family involved in motorsport? I'm sure I read this somewhere but have never come across the info since. Maybe I dreamt it.
it was mentioned in the comments a few days back - i think she's the daughter of a team owner heikki drove for in one of the lower formulae.
tweet from force india:
"Adrian is at the factory now. Any questions for him?"
"why do you run like a girl?"
"Why do you run like a girl?"
HAHAHAHA! :D
clearly the question on everyones lips!
Why didn't you slap Trulli in the face?
:)
"what exactly was on your laptop?"
For those who don't know what we mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VkRgUcP_rM
:D
Kimi too.
Ive never seen that before, bwahahahahaha. Poor Adrian :D
did anyone talk about this red bull air race bird strike yet?
Wow. That was lucky! Could have been very messy :(
awwwwwww :(
Yeah, ouch indeed!
that said, he still did well, and i don't think he should've gotten penalized. oh well.
I've been watching the Air Race this year because they've actually been putting it on TV here. Those guys are amazing.
I watch it too when it's on TV. Mateschitz's marketing plan is absolutely brilliant. He focused on a key market that caters to a key demographic and bet the farm on it. It was crazy, but it's worked to perfection.
When I say key market, I mean motorsport - F1, WRC, MotoGP, Air Race - name it, he's probably in it.
I don't think I've seen one form of motorsport that hasn't had a Red Bull sponsored car taking part at least once.
Kemblewatch - 1400
Williams have just turned up, just one truck and two guys setting up so I doubt there will be any running today. Hopefully the weather tomorrow will be as good as today though its a bit gusty!
Cheers,
Rob
Am I allowed to say please visit my new website? Probably not so therefore I won't.
Oooh nice.
Of course you are! We're all friendly here. Go ahead :)
ace. pls do keep us posted.
of course. we plugged it last week for you, but in case anyone missed it:
http://www.grandprixdiary.com/
You certainly can. I believe we have mentioned it in the comments before but all good plugs are welcome.
All this talk of the 1999 season has reminded me of the utter abomination of the red Winfield Williams. What an awful looking car, and it neatly coincided with the terminal decline of the team's performance.
What were they thinking of?
It all started going downhill when Renault pulled out at the end of 1997. They've never been the same since. Sure in the BMW days, they reached a peak and won races again, but never managed a championship.
I think it started going downhill for a different reason - Adrian Newey's departure. They couldn't find anyone who could replace him and design a great car. BMW had the horses, but Williams didn't have a great chassis to go along with it, which is why Mario decided to do his own thing.
Yup, that too. 1997 was AN's last car for Williams before he departed for McLaren.
Thanks for the permission - there is a link to Sidepodcast there and the great F1 minute - which has had great feedback from our professional focus group (my mates in the pub)who are now avid listeners. Listening to anything on an iPod is not my idea of fun but the guys tell me 'its the future' (like garlic bread?)
As it says on the site - it is very much a work in progress, loads more goodies to go on and it currently has more glitches than a Russian airliner so it is driving me slightly nuts.
All comments - and especially critical ones are welcome, just don't make me cry ok?
Rob
www.GrandPrixDiary.com
Am liking this Sutil on Twitter stuff:
Q for him: "Sutil, if you're interviewed by the BBC at Monaco, please can you get as many "for sure" lines in as possible? I'll keep score."
His answer: "We don't all say that! For sure, only a couple."
Bazil83 might be from RealBrawnGP - they have a brilliant "For Sure" championship going on. :D
I'm curious what this one is in reply to: "No, but I might not speak to him again..."
I shall try and twittle him when I go home on the train in a mo :)
The Trulli one?
I've sent a tweet - "How do you rate the team's chances of scoring points for the rest of the season?"
Mark Webber, maybe? Doesn't it say who it's in reply to?
Twitter has increased my enjoyment of F1 2009 10000%
Unfortunately not.
Agreed. :)
Who do you watch? I added the fake F1 drivers, but now there's so much clutter on my feed it's like trying to catch up on the sidepodcast comments.
might be this one: "do you think Martin Brundle jinxed you on the grid in spain after his comments and your first lap exit?"
http://twitter.com/danielfelice/status/1773197644
But how would the original tweeter know it's the reply to his tweet?
ohhh... poor martin. gets blamed for every jinx on the grid. :P
lots of them are just repeats of news I already know, off the top of my head, the ones I like for 'from the paddock' updates are @clubforce @thefifthdriver @redbullf1spy @leemck and @bulletinf1 plus @glendix who doesn't update anymore but hes the one who got me into the vodafone cricket event in Melbourne.
Too many and the activity is sporadic...
That sounds very likely. Well done Amy :)
For the BATracer game, do you guys mind if I bring a friend in? He listens to the podcast and was VERY jealous that we actually get to talk to people in the BATracer games.
Oooh it does, now I remember. The gridwalk was so disorganised this time because I don't think the teams at the back were expecting him!
if anyone asks, I'm sleeping ;) withdrawal day 2 is a fail.
Yup, by all means :)
day 2 wasn't all that bad, amy. ;) are you really going to sleep? :D
Introduce him to the community too. :)
the plan was to be in bed every night by 11 and its now 12.09. Problem was I did so well yesterday and got so much sleep last night I'm wide awake today.
He actually lurks here some times, but he doesn't have the time to comment usually.
Yay I got answered by adrian sutil!
@clubforce who is the better dresser in the team - yourself, giancarlo, or vijay?
@lukehmuse We've all got our own styles...I have to say this though, VIjay is my boss!
Ah THAT problem. Go to bed and read, or just try and relax - you will become tired...
Hahaha! Do we lull you to sleep now, then? :)
loving these tweets. following here.
Excellent!!
Me too! :D
Alrighty guys, do I take Benetton or Williams?
His answer to my question: "The field is so close you don't know. I wouldn't want to make too many predictions but points are always the aim"
Oooh Scott got answered too!
@TheWiss The field is so close you don't know. I wouldn't want to make too many predictions but points are always the aim
Up to you. :)
Did anyone listen to the AT&T Williams Podcast by the way? Nico seems to have a really genius method of taking a siesta!
I think McLaren need to do a twitter Q&A with Heikki. I might die.
:D
Would anyone else be able to get a word in?
it only works if you're single though.
Thats actually what I'm doing whilst I can't sleep, trying to catch up on far too many podcasts. Williams is next on my list.
Would you tweet would be something like...
@mclarentwitter OHHHHHHHH MYYYY GGOOOOOOODDDD
I wonder what their reaction would be...
no, although I probably couldn't think of anything to ask him anyway short of "why are you so much cooler than Lewis" :D
How about any advice you can give Rubens on being #2? ;)
Hi all! I just joined the BATracer game as Vinnie's teammate. I've been lurking around the site for a while, but sadly don't comment much. Hopefully that will change soon.
It's nice to be aboard!
this guy has more mood swings than trulli.
Welcome! :)
What does it say about me that my two favourites are the both #2s.
Hamiltonometer?
doesn't have much of a ring does it? it also swings so frequently that if we made one it'd likely have someone's eye out.
That you are a borg of substance and class...
From James allen:
#f1 - Ferrari are going to make quite a significant statement very shortly. Their involvement in F1 is at stake.
Ohayou Gozaimasu! :D
WHAAAT?!
Uh oh...
I better reboot now, before all hell breaks loose. Hang on.
Hahaha, thanks! Give it 10 more minutes and it really will be ohayou over here ;)
Not so ohayou for Ferrari, apparently.
and how can I be expected to sleep now. I might miss something!
Wow. Looks like I arrived just in time. Who else thinks "shortly" means "on the hour"
:D
F1 would not be the same without Ferrari.
It would certainly not be so interesting
I do. They were given a minimum heads-up.
I just hope it won't be sayounara :(
I'm actually a little worried about this...
amy's bound to have read this already, but mclaren are fighting back on twitter
"Monaco! The biggest race on the F1 calendar. We're busy getting ready so let me know what you want to know about our preparations!"
agreed. it wouldn't be f1.
however i think they know bernie is in a weakened position...
I'm more than a little worried about this.
my claim to fame is I was their first ever follower because I knew about their twitter before it was announced :D
ferrari may be organizing the breakaway series we never had. and they're forcing bernie to defect.
If they do withdraw, I think it'll be to get what they want. The FIA will come running.
wow it's all go for the f1 teams on twitter.
OfficialBrawnGP is happy to see our guys back at the factory. Trucks are parked, cars in the race bays, trophies in the cabinet!
and hey everyone :)
unconfirmed, but...
"On Sky Sports News NOW!!!! Ferrari have announced they are quitting"
I want to see that cabinet! :D
Gonna look now
...
Autosport have this: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75277
"Ferrari has confirmed that it will not enter next year's world championship unless plans for a voluntary £40 million budget cap are changed."
cheers sir.
cooool!
I knew it! Bloody knew it!
Yep. SSN is reporting it.
that is so much less scandalous than "Breaking -Ferrari just pulled out of Formula 1 starting next season"
Umm, I'm shocked. On one hand I'm happy, on another I'm sad...
FOTA wins. Checkmate.
much better. yay autosport.
So the budget cap's gonna get scrapped then?
all they've said is exactly the same as what toyota said.
just so you all know i actually ran into the side of the door in a rush to get to the tv in the lounge... ouch.
So will it be NO cap, or just a higher cap? It kinda sucks that Ferrari didn't give an option showing what would be a good compromise...
I guees it is just a matter of time before Toyota, BMW and possibly Renault announce the same.
Autosport have also reported this:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75267
"The FIA is optimistic that a deal can be agreed with teams to move forward with plans for a budget cap in Formula 1 next year, but has warned that it will not compromise simply because of the 'hysteria' caused by threats to quit the sport."
agreed. this person's tweet is a little bit gmm. apologies for copying.
i think teams wanted a higher cap with a sliding scale of introduction.
I love the BBC headline.
"Ferrari 'to quit' over budget row "
But, of course, once you read the story...
And no two-tier nonsense?
from the bbc:
They're saying that to save face. But the mere fact that they decided to reply to Ferrari's statement should tell you something.
The BBC have been absolutely shocking this week.
But it has SO MUCH MORE WEIGHT when Ferrari says it...
We will see a Ferrari on the Grid next year. All this means is that the budget cap will get scrapped. Max should never have let the spending get out of control in the first place.
Remember what I said on the panel last week? He's shutting the door after the prancing horse has bolted...
yes.
see that i expected. silly sky sports saying ferrari are actually leaving.
But then - Ferrari are hardly having a good season atm anyway... plus Fiat have had EU monopolies and mergers muttering at them, and their recent bids to a couple of car companies look likely to open them up to a competition commission enquiry in the USA and in Italy....
oh so very dear :(
their news reporting is terrible really. Because its the only site I can look at at work I go to it for my tennis news and its always 'here is 40 storys about what Andy Murray is up to, and no stories about the actual tennis games that have been played by other people'
that wasn't a very good answer. nobody wants a two-tier f1 aside from max. not even bernie.
And how much longer can max actually last anyway (I mean, last last, not just 'avoid forced retirement')
they are? so the tweet wasn't misinterpreted?
i was wrong, gmm were actually forerunners to a screwed up media future.
The counter-argument for it would be to make the budget cap compulsary. But obviously no-one really wants that either from what I've gathered.
I thought that violated the Ferrari/Bernie contract that goes till 2012?
:D hahaa
True, but the point is, Ferrari can move to Le Mans and do just fine. I honestly think a Ferrari-F1 split will harm F1 more than it will harm Ferrari. And Ferrari is technically a separate entity from the Fiat parent.
the little scrolling bar thing said 'breaking news: Ferrari pull out of next year's formula 1 championship'
:s
I'm sure Ferrari don't mind the media exaggerating, for once. it will direct all the vitriol at the Place de Concorde.
you'd force three teams OUT of the championship by doing that, not encourage more teams in.
FakeKazNakajima: There goes my Ferrari drive. Boo.
:)
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5317968,00.html
From Skysports website.
Technically, Ferrari can't pull out of next years F1 championship because they haven't entered in the first place
hahaha I love Fakejenson's tweet
"I wake up from my Tuesday afternoon nap to hear about how Ferrari wants more attention? Sorry, it's mine now."
F1 needs independant competition, otherwise there is no competition and hence no sport.
The end is nigh
:D
So the problem we have here is: Teams don't want a two-tier F1, but at the same time don't want the budget cap to be compulsary. The only compromise is to increase the budget cap to contemplate the wealthier teams. Other than that I've no idea how we sort this out.
also a damn good point!
Push comes to shove, Bernie wants Ferrari, McLaren, and BMW over USF1 and Lola.
Well there's always Indycars..
the problem with the increase is new teams such as usgpe and lola won't be able to come in. or at least won't be able to compete.
agreed.
I agree, I can't believe that we wont be seeing them next year - despite whatever the political stunt du jour would have us think
Exactly. Increasing it only hurts the new teams looking to come in. As far as I can tell, they've nowhere near over £40million pounds. Unless they have very good sponsorship contacts. But even then, it doesn't guarentee a decent budget to run a team.
What's wrong with the 'you must provide super cheap engines and stuff' route? They never gave that a chance really, did they?
nope, they didn't. max says times are hard and they have to act fast. he's using the economic climate to push forward ideals he's held for 20 years... and still he's failing.
ferrari, mclaren, toyota, and renault already do it. any more of that and they'd be stretched too thin.
LDM is playing this political game of chess to perfection.
Somehow, the words F1 and cheap don't really go together these days when really they should looking at the state of the world's economy.
it's a sight to behold. shall await the response from paris with interest.
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport. How can that be if teams are capped on budget.
Also, how can you entertain a two tier formula.
IT WOULD NOT BE CALLED 'FORMULA 1', because IT WOULD NOT BE ONE FORMULA.
Agreed, but no-one can really continue spending the levels of money they are right now because of the current economic situation.
Is it a problem that if they react now it is bound to be because of Ferrari?
I mean, everyone KNOWS that Ferrari = F1 but can the powers that be really be so obvious about it and not end up looking stupid?
i have to admit, i hate to see politics tarnish F1, but as a political junkie, i can't help but admire how FOTA has moved to defeat the FIA. they've known when to be subtle, and when to be brutal. and so far, it looks like it's working. having bernie (and therefore CVC) on their side won't do them any harm, either.
I think a budget cap is okay. A reasonable and realistic budget seems like a good idea. It's just what the FIA has implemented is so blatantly bad, it's a waste of time.
Semantics here (hey, I used to teach, give me a break, lol) - but formula 1 does indeed suggest the top tier, but not that it is uniform ... "one formula" it is not... there are several others.
Its down to how you translate from the French basically...
Hello all.
Missed owt big today :D
Just kidding, bloomin good plan by Ferrari though, though it is like rallying next to a cliff face.
I could cope with the idea of a large-ish budget cap that gets progressively adjusted downward each year, but to bring it in so low meant this debate was inevitable
please remember to see tongue firmly planted.... ;-P
I think Steven Roy mentioned it, or someone else, but let the teams decide how they want to be regulated! They're in the best position to know what will be the best for them. They know they need to cut costs, they have ideas, why not use them?
I suppose the ticket prices will remain the same, so a certain person will not lose out
good point. but people will be asking for a response from him. i don't see that he has a choice.
it's a FOTA plan, not just by ferrari alone. and they're playing the right cards at the right time.
Since when has the FIA really cared about what the teams really want?
It's "Formula 1", not "FormulaS 1". It's singular, so it must mean it's one formula. :)
Plus there are teams that are obviously functioning and competing well on less money than they could be already (as they basically don't have anything 'spare' being small, or new, or both).
Like Amy mentioned earlier, if I was Toyota, I'd be a bit miffed right now.
his primary income is derived from tv monies. no ferrari would equal less viewers. he won't let this happen.
Um
Nope - its 1 as in Premiere... top. That implies a status, not a lack of a multiplicity :-)
yeah they were pretty much ignored. poor timo ;)
FOTA gave them a chance to change direction of their own accord. They didn't take advantage of it. After today, they'll be left with no choice, really.
they're the biggest car manufacturer in the world. they aren't the most enigmatic. they know their place :)
Yeah, I know. :) But I mean that the use of the word "Formula", rather than "Formulas", means that it should just be a singular formula.
In other words, you're both right.
a LOT less viewers. CVC won't be able to pay their debt properly without it. as i said, checkmate.
Well then it's their own fault. If they had a chance to really get their wants across but didn't take it, that's their problem, not the FIA's.
Lol////
depending on the language of origin(and its background language again) - in a name like this you wouldn't nec. see a plural participle....
LPG has been reviewing a lot of latin stuff today....
Exactly. Doesn't matter how much money you spend, it's all about how much prestige you have...
I know. The only ones the FIA would listen to were Ferrari
but they DID tell the FIA what they wanted. did the FIA listen before? of course not. that's why it got to this point.
FOTA did what it could to avoid this, but the FIA insisted. Now it's become the FIA's problem.
My last question.
How long has Ferrari been the ERRaR in F 1 (error)
Nice play on words eh.
If you newspapers use it, remember where you saw it first
I've been stuck on this comment for a while. Isn't Brawn GP where they are now due large in part to Honda's massive funding for the car?
It seems like it, yes. ;)
yes, that's true, but obviously honda would only pay them a certain percentage of the 2008 budget - probably less than 50% of it.
they are indeed. but the teams will all cut back naturally when they run low on money, there's no need to force it on anyone. honda pulled out to save what little face remained. they appear to have saved no money by quitting.
What has RBR's budget been like? They're doing well, but they're not one of the big spenders... right?
What they need to do is get all 10 team bosses, Max and Bernie, put them in a room together and they're not allowed to come out until a compromise that everyone's happy with is reached. But that could never happen of course. Ah well, we can dream...
I think yes and no on that. I've been told (reliably) that Honda (parent co) had cut the purse strings some months before Honda (race team) were forced to pull. I've also been told (again reliably, but by a different reliable person) that Brawn have got some serious savings into the way the cars are made and maintained and that these design and engineering things are the 'holy grail' of F1, both cheaper than the norm, and more effective....
You mean like when they chose a new pope?
Nope, they'll just argue and we'll end up losing F1 altogether. Not a good idea.
I like the idea of a cage match.
Their budget is in between the independents (Williams, Brawn) and the manufacturers (Ferrari, McLaren, Toyota).
How about Last Man Standing? :D
I don't, I have a feeling Briatore would win.
I suspect that RBR (and TR to a certain respect ditto) benefit hugely from there being a whole lot of different sports to draw on for R&D. They can spread the financial load right accross, and have the op. to try out this and that from one sport in another, and another and another... and like any good set of engineers/scientists/researchers they are not being system or sport specific, they carry their thinking around and see all the possible applications not just tying something to the one place or sport or thing that it was first mooted for.
You never know. Brawn could whip out a double decker chair on him. ;)
As I said.. neither is exactly in the first flush of youth.....
:D Oooh... That's a chilling prospect. But they'd all probably gang up on Max first and beat him senseless.
Neither are wrestlers. ;)
lolol
But these are from the next generation up again!
Did you see how matey Bernie, Flav and the bloke from Ferrari seemed to be on the grid on sunday? I couldn't help but feel that they were all carefully standing 'just' far enough away from each other, and that they'd all stalk in completely different directions the moment the cameras were off them
So we get the independents on one side using max as a weapon, the manufacturers on the other side using bernie. Last team standing wins.
But would he mind... oh... hang on that's probably over the line....
(but I'm posting it anyway :-P )
F1's song at the moment:
Sooner or Later, by N.E.R.D
Listen to the lyrics, it's perfect. :D
That's a Survivor Series type of matchup... I like it! :D
One interesting option,
Provide all teams with the best, fastest ever formula 1 car.
No pit stops.
Then lets sort the men from the boys - Drivers.
We could call the series One Formula
That would be a spec-series then. I think that's too far away from what F1's about.
Where's everyone? Listening to my link, maybe? :D
They tried that, except they called it the "Car of Tomorrow"... and named the series NASCAR.
And far too close to INdy.....
Not much else to say is there? We'll have to see what the response is from the FIA.
I'm watching the Spain Forum because my download just finished :D
agreed. i was almost motivated to write a post when the headline came out, but what is there to say really? we know what's going on, we know why it' going on. we all expect the same conclusion will be reached.
any space news?
People usually jump to other topics, not vanish altogether. FWIW, the FIA already did give a response. It should be a very interesting round of negotiations between Max and Luca.
Nothing on the Beeb thus far :-(
Homer was saved by an inanimate carbon rod.
Oh, you mean the other launch
Mr C? Write a post? That doesn't happen everyday. ;)
nope, not til wednesday.
:D
Vee's tweet is brilliant.
This place is evil! It's already 1 AM over here. I'm going beddy bye. Nice to meet you all and see you tomorrow. ;)
oyasumi
ooops! night john.
:D
night!
Takuma Sato! ;)
Night John. :)
1 press statement, 362 news articles in less than an hour. Wow.
that is impressive.
not to mention the 2nd top sports story on google news.
1 hour in, 385 articles. music to FOTA's ears...
That alone is proof that F1 needs Ferrari, whether we like it or not. There will be no budget cap next year, I am almost certain now!
I'm having a nose in my student cook book....
"Quick Cheese Cake.
Prep Time 15-20 minutes
Refrigeration Time 4 hours"
Now correct me if i'm wrong, but 4 hours isn't particularly short...
i found out where amy went... she must've fainted:
"Hi Guys it's Heikki here! Wishing you all the best, thanks for following us and see you again in Monaco!"
Don't some cakes take longer than 4 hours? All relative, I guess. :)
hahaha, wow. Today really is f1 twitter day!
Where are those smelling salts?...
F1 has finally made it to the 21st century. Hahaha!
But why would Amy faint? It's not like the tweet was only for her. ;)
Do you have an oven? (and eggs if you eat those)
Cheese cake can be had in under an hour that way :-)
and one more from will buxton. i'm not copying though, cause it contains rude words.
pretty much sums up the fia's position though.
he's on twitter, that's one degree of separation.
that i would class as quick, 4 hours seems quite long
one degree, all right - miles worth of cable wiring. :P
doo doo or bye bye? i say eat the doo doo.
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/3636/baked-vanilla-cheesecake would do you for starters .....
James allen will be on talksport tonight if anyone wants to hear his sultry voice.
What time? What channel? This may be worth listening to...
here he is. can't believe amy went to sleep.
Sultry?
In the unlikely event that anyone wants to hear mine, I'll be on Radio Wales in about 45 mins...
oops, wrong link. this is better:
http://twitpic.com/51fvx
coool. i may drop.io :)
#f1 - I will be on TalkSport radio (1089am) this evening at 8-30pm discussing the Ferrari news with Danny Kelly
Oooh I'll be listening. Good old bbc radio wales.
oooh... worth listening to, as well. rushed interview appointment?
I think amy *might* explode when she comes back on later
no realplayer for me, so... can someone drop.io? :D
iPlayer? I could do with something to bake to :-D
look at all those sanitised cubicles around him. how... mclaren.
I shall try my best if mr c cant get it
good man.
fakeflav is talking to himself LOL
fakeflav - @fakeflav can we talk about it after Monaco? I already printed the invitations & ordered the chrystal for the party
:D
great post from ollie. love the title:
http://blogf1.co.uk/2009/05/12/will-max-mosleys-legacy-be-the-death-of-formula-one/
They rang up while I was hanging out some laundry and contemplating some transcription... I'm nowhere near an ISDN line so will have to do it from home. This raises some interesting logistical scenarios; the best phone is in the bedroom, but that also happens to be where Jasmine is sleeping at the moment. Do the sturdy folk of Wales need to hear a cat meeping about being roused from her slumbers?
Looking at the #f1 tweets, many (but not all) people are saying Ferrari are just acting like sore losers because they're faring poorly this year.
I think they fail to see the point here...
what about this one?
http://twitpic.com/51g5l
his smile scares me a little tbh.
Awww... maybe you can carry Jasmine to another bed? :)
All I can hear at the mo is an ice cream so it'd be a change :P
why do i get the impression he just got busted scribbling out lewis' signature?
lmao!
What.... I cant explain that picture. I honest cant. Who enlarged his head?!
:D :D
Press officers stuck his head in a photocopier and pressed 'x1.5'?
Its a bit Calista Flockhart et al isn't it?
grandprix.com on today's announcement:
"A civil war will help no-one. In the end, however, it may clear away some of those who are causing the problems. The big question is which of the characters involved become victims..."
As long as FOTA stay united, it's pretty obvious who'll end up being the victim here. But if this does not get resolved quickly, we'll all become victims.
So who do SPC think are the Stuarts, and who the Cromwellians?
(or Confederates and Unionists if you prefer...)
I DIDNT GO TO SLEEP MY INTERNET BROKE AAAAAAH
oh dear.
awwwwwwwww
sidepodhugs for Amy.
He's still there Amy! There's still time to declare undying love!
that tweet was so for me and you know it. don't pretend otherwise ;)
Is it working now?
You've got lots to catch up on, dear.
awww :(
it was for everyone, not just you. :P
...and joe's personal thoughts.
what's with all the swearing today?
switched to the 3g, stupid wireless. I might have to consider getting my own connection the neighbours are just toooo unreliable. And missing Heikki tweets is the last straw!
The FIA are totally the British, and FOTA are the Bostonians dressed as native americans throwing their tea into the ocean.
I prefer this one. This is confusing - in this scenario, it's the Confederates who are the good guys, and the Unionists who are the bad guys. What will happen? Hopefully, Washington (Mosley) will have to compromise with the Confederacy (FOTA) to keep the Union intact.
But of course, the American Civil War didn't go down like that in reality...
Lol
Well that was the 3rd option, I was trying to avoid pitting nations against each other ....( With my background you just don't go there!)
Oh yeah I was writing an assignment wasnt I... damn you ferrari
But back then, the US was merely a British colony...
Plus there were a fair few assassinations, on both sides... 'here' one side just chopped the head off a king (erk!)
That doesn't bode too well for Max, then, does it?
Then again, he can take comfort in the fact that Balestre survived the First F1 Civil War... until Mosley himself ousted him.
I now have the image of ferrari dumping a load of manure on the steps of the FIA... just a 'normal' protest in France then....
LPG creeps away...
if heikki is the fifth driver. who's mclaren's number 2?
nicole?
I'm mostly away from the comments for the best part of a week and when I come back the first thing I read is about the American Civil War. And that is why I love Sidepodcast :D
Stuart, do you know if you're going to be talking to roy noble on bbc radio wales? he's presenting at the moment anyways, and he's a big cuddly legend :D
that's Ferrari and LPG's fault. :D
Hypothetically speaking, we'd have 10 teams next year and not the much hyped 13.
Possible Entrants
USGPE
Lola
Prodrive/Aston Martin
iSport International
Leaving
Ferrari
Red Bull
Toro Rosso
Toyota
:D
Wait, scrap that, he's not anymore.Shame :(
Isn't that Renault?
you've missed mclaren and renault from that list.
:D :D
I thought BMW were going as well?
and them.
I was trying to work out a relevance for all... it occurred to me that unless you are UK based and 'educated' before 85 then you might not know much about the civil war here or those in Europe....
One must assume BMW and Renault will also leave if things stay as they are. Even McLaren and Brawn will probably leave at this rate.
I know about it, but Cromwell's thing lasted way too long for it to make a good example. :)
There is nothing guaranteed wrt any of them being around next year....
I did a Massa on the way home from work, and found two of my nearest petrol stations closed.
Made it cross the finish line in the end though.
That was hideous. Almost as bad as the ****ING Renault this year
Good! Hehe. Now that you're back, see what's broken loose.
if only you had Rob on the other end of the line telling you to slow down a bit :P
you should've rang me up and bitched about losing position...
Unknown. I've sneaked in and brought the handset downstairs. The Jasminator stirred but didn't get up.
My guess... Entry into 2010 dependent on the budget cap being sccrapped
Renault would probably go with the capped rule, simply because the board has always questionsed the expenditure on F1.
Have McLaren come out and said they would? must have missed that :D
ROFL
Oh, if you want UK and short and sweet then you're back to 1685 (Sedgemoor) or maybe Hastings then...
Ooooooo there is definately an analogy between 1066 and onwards and the whole FIA/FOTA thing - even down to the Angles/Saxony v. the Normans...
Fuel map 2, baby!
Mr C, language?
Ok - it hadn't caught up with all the comment after waking it up... :D
He's off now anyways, i got my times all mixed up :P
I#m sorry.... I've definately been in the books too much this afternoon (vrf)
Even Flav has said he opposes it, if I remember correctly. Renault's concern isn't cost, it's about winning to justify that cost.
It's all about the context.
It's all right - will we see William the Conqueror and boiling cauldrons of tar then? :D
ok now i really must sleep, and have happy twitter dreams
night all :)
Fair enough. :) Hehehe. Will you have enough fuel to make it back to a petrol station tomorrow?
If only :)
Night, Amy. :)
So you read Heikki's tweet then? :D
Thankfully I found one in the end. Quite out of my way though.
rofl.... lets see. One promises something to the other, renages on it, and the others successor comes over and twocks the successor of the first. But is only 'lucky' to do so because a 3rd force had had to be repelled first and a long route march tired everyone out and they had no chance to refuel......
Very true, but they might look at F1 better if they were not paying out so much even without the wins. Mind you that will happen if the get rid of Flavio, mind you there will be a few team bosses out of jobs soon.
yes it was so nice of him to tweet solely for me and me alone and not anyone else ;)
At least you found one - that's what counts. :)
Oh - and I'm rather intrigued by whom it is knows this stuff... the 'classical' english education is obviously alive and well, just not in England :-)
How many did he do? I only saw one.
sure, go ahead, you can think what you want... :P
nah, i'm just really a history junkie. i read about it on my own, not taught in school. :D and we weren't really a british colony for very long - weeks, at most. ;)
i'm the exception, not the rule. :P
I have one problem with that, the caption.
"Here's Heikki at MTC today - busy in the simulator but wanted to drop you guys a smile!"
Doesn't look like he's in the simulator or even there to do that.
Who's the 3rd force now, then?
Here we go, ferrari on bbc radio wales and stuart!
I've been reading mainstream reaction to the Ferrari announcement, and I'm surprised how many people seem to think that Ferrari is acting on its own here. Had they dug a little deeper, they'd see that Ferrari isn't the only team threatening to pull out...
drop.io when done - you're the best! :)
hehehe, I like his comparison of Ferrari leaving to Man Utd leaving the Premier League to play in a pub league.
blast, missed the first question, did you get it lukeh?
Am recording now :D
I do have it all, I should say, introduction too.
Its a good comparison imo!
good man.
Listening on Sky :D
I can stick up a mp3 on sendspace of the radio wales chat if anyone wants it
Woo, found Radio Wales. My Welsh housemate is chuffed :D
Ok, all done. Uploading onto drop.io now.
Just in time to hear him say goodbye :(
hey, michael! no worries, lukeh is already recording it. :)
Woo!
hands up who isn't recording bbc wales right now?
Did I just say 'mountebank' on the radio? Got carried away there.
i'm not. :P
lukeh! w00t!
So you find it and it finishes, tough luck
we'll find out when lukeh's uploaded it. :P
*puts hand up* i have no idea how to :(
I think I'm still sulking that Radio Newcastle doesn't care. Anyone want an interview with Alan Shearer?
Who?
twas good listening, well done Stuart :D
that was brilliant. they could've given you a chance to say goodbye though? there might have been some extended friends and family you wished to give a shout out to or something.
yep you did a good job :)
Exactly, who cares. I want a good F1 following up here
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/stuart-c-radio-mp3
woo!
David Croft interview:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8046604.stm
I thought that!
cheers lukeh!
ah bum, there's a tweetdeck jingle 50 seconds in... oops..
just to not make you tweetdeckers paranoid if you hear it and wonder what the hell's going on :P
hehehe
Eddie Jordan interview:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8046739.stm
Extended friends and family or website you visit sometimes? :)
If Ferrari do pull out for a year and then come back in in 2011 - would they be allowed to spend the year testing their 2011 car designs?
It'll be interesting to see how the Max-Bernie relationship develops and who has the real power. I've always assumed that Bernie was the the real boss and Max was the puppet, but since spank-gate Max has seemingly shown a lot more independence.
Surely ferrari are trying to force Bernie into neutering Max(not literally).
yup, that sounds about right.
haha
i don't think anyone's thought that through. ;)
:D
bloomin' good question.
I remember thinking a similar thing when this years regulations were announced.
Stuart, you DID say Mountebank! :P
Great interview, Stuart! Cheers for recording, Lukeh. :)
Would also put to pay the Alonso for Ferrari in 2010 links we've had for about 2 quintillion years
Got to love the definition in the Shorter Oxford: "An itinerant quack who from a platform appealed to his audience by means of stories, tricks, juggling, and the like, often with the assistance of a professional clown."
Ditto, cheers Lukeh, you are awesome
Did you have anyone in mind, Stuart? ;)
no problemo :)
Afternoon everyone:
What bugs me about this cost cap is all the stuff that is not covered by the cost cap that can help a F1 down the road.
Like, how much money does Ferrari or McLaren spent on the bloody stupid unvailing of the cars? Yet how much does all that silly glamour stuff attract sponours that just might be able to blow their R&R budgets to test their new products before sending it out to the general public?
Like say Shell adds more octane to standard grade gasoline, it gets a performance advantage, and it will be offered at the same price as the its other retail gasoline competitors. Shell then offers it to the Ferrari team, And Kimi starts lapping the field eating ice cream cone in one hand at the same time.....
The point is, here is a advantage gained by Ferrari from their old partner Shell, without Ferrari having to spend a penny of its budget to do so. However, to get my (say Williams') Marketing department to steal Shell from Ferrari, I am sure I am going to blow way more than 40 million pounds to do so. Which is completly legel under the proposed cap.
Silly you say? I remember reading an article in F1 Racing in either 96, 97, or 98 When Sir Jackie Stewart was complaining about the nature of some expenses, and finding out that the transport truck had windshield wipers installed on their headlights for 50 000 each! I can not remember if the price was in pounds or dollars, he did not not really enhance the reputation of the fraugal Scot by wondering why does a truck need 50 000 whatever windshield wipers isntalled on headlights....
Oooh. Top Gear Australia is back. :D
No Charlie Cox. :(
What's a tweetdeck jingle? Is that like the bit in that recent Madonna song where it makes a pinging noise like she's opened her car door with the key still in the ignition?
In such a case, the cost of developing that new gasoline will also be added to Ferrari's expenses (even if Ferrari didn't spend it themselves). At least that's how I understood it.
:D
it's the little noise Tweetdeck makes when you get a new twitter message. I'm just pleased it was that milisecond minute noise and not the notification sound I had on twitterfox for a day, which was a foghorn...
Right. I really must:
1 Feed the cats
2 Eat
3 Transcribe Gordon
So ta ta for now...
i didn't hear it in the recording?
Later, Stuart. :)
Indeed. People might have thought I'd had curry for lunch.
TTFN!
bye Stuart!
about 50 seconds in, but it's not really noticable, just noticed it myself frist time listening back
looks like formula 1 is in a whole host of trouble right now:
"Formula One chief executive Bernie Ecclestone today admitted that F1 was teetering so near the brink of financial disaster he would not personally invest in it."
I noticed it too, but it's not anything that you'd pay that much attention too - it's non-intrusive. :)
Just goes from bad to worse, doesn't it? They'll probably sort this out, but in case they don't...
GP1, anyone?
oooh that fills me up with confidence! >.
I was playing a double decker bus racing mod on rFactor today, I reckon there's a series to made out of that.
i assume this is a call to the teams to say "you're getting less money next year, not more". not good though.
:D
bottom line - f1 will hold up as long as the banks hold up. given that most of the troubled banks have closed by now, i think f1 will be safe from this threat.
not sure about the ferrari threat, though...
Did he follow that by saying "My bad."?
not necessarily. if their stake in f1's earnings increases, they may get more money out of it. regardless, this will be very bad news for cvc.
Amongst all this doom and gloom, I've just noticed how much I like the numbers on the Ferraris. It's kinda similar to the font Puma use for their international football shirts.
Wonder if I can download it anywhere......
This looks like an interesting idea from kevpuk - not sure where he read it though:
hmmm.
formula one is a very odd business. Everyone is rich but nobody has any money. Teams are financial blackholes propped up by manufacturers and billionaires. Tracks are propped up by governments and are destined never to break even.
At the same time, everyone drives an expensive car, wears a tailor made suit and skips around with a trophy girlfriend on their arm.
Strange
The teams are poor, but the people are not. Said people are not willing to re-invest their money in these teams.
That explains the discrepancy.
Wouldn't the problem also be Bernie and co. taking 50% of the money?
But that wouldn't explain why said people are rich...
But it would explain why the teams have no money...
That is true. :)
The money in F1 is just like the money in the world as a whole, there is plenty of it, but it's nowhere near being shared out equally. And yes, I do realise that I sound like a communist when I say that!
Apparently, it came from behind the Great (Fire)Wall of AUTOSPORT Subscription: http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2162
No you don't.
Good, I try not to whenever possible :D
I believe it was Karl Marx who said:
"A spectre is haunting F1 - the spectre of a two-tier championship"
How right he was!
Parting shot: Joe with a more level-headed look at the current situation here.
Good night, everyone.
night sir.
night!
g'night!
Bernie, like all other men, loves to reap where he never sowed.
Car manufacturers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your wallets
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No says the FIA, he spent too much money! No says Bernie, it belongs to CVC! No says the man in the boardroom, it belongs to the shareholders!
I'm probably going to be one of the few to get that reference, but that's awesome :D
God I'm so sad for loving this comment. Would you kindly slap me?
You're not sad, you're awesome :D
Anyone else really not looking forward to Bioshock 2?
Nope! Its all too true... (although the boardroom guy is saying that, I would think that he was thinking 'directors bonus' in reality...)
ooo ooh ooh *raises arm* me mee!!
I thought the original was one of the most compelling games this generation. The twist messed about with my mind so much.
Oh wait, you said NOT... boo. :(
I'm afraid so.
And that is why. I think it is one of those things that should be left be, no sequel necessary.
Good point to be fair. Plus the guy what wrote the original isn't on board for 2... which is never good. :(
Very few people form the original are involved, it's been shipped to another team sadly. From what I've seen so far they seem to have missed the point of what made the first so good. I hope I'm proven wrong though.
"....preparations for the 93rd Indianapolis 500, May 5-12, 2009."
What does this make you think? Circuit? Anyone?
Take a look
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/128638
Ok lads and ladys, you have to read this, words don't do it justice;
http://jonwaldock.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/dead-in-the-water/
Smoothly done :P
thankinya ;)
I haven't visited Christine's personal blog for a while so I thought I would have a quick look. I found an item on decision making web gadgets so i asked 3 of them if I should read all the comments I have missed today on sidepodcast and they all said no. What am I supposed to do for the next half hour now?
http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/05/06/i-used-to-be-indecisive/
I wish I'd never wrote that post. I missed out on lunch cos of it and you're missing out on comments :)
really? Got a link for that?
Drink?
I decided to ignore it.
Good plan :)
Sounds identical
everybody gone quiet?
I'm editing a panel :)
I'm distracting myself too much from assignment work and revision with photoshop, although I've done a lot of assignment work today :D
Good luck ;)
I'm pretending I'm doing something.
Comp Sci WILL make you mental :(
Too late. I'm drawing Muse albums on paint.
:(
I've just been eating, followed by reading other websites....
I do that all the time....
Except for now when I'm having fun with the wiki :D
YAY
The thing that annoys me is that how can people assume that there is an alternative for the teams to running in F1? There is no other series remotely like it, ironically all the other single-seater Formulae are more like spec series (which the manufacturers are completely against).
Do we really think the manufacturers can be bothered to go to all the effort to set up a rival series? The FIA will never mandate it so it's pointless trying. All we will see is a lot of b****ing, moaning and fighting and then somebody will back down and a compromise will be reached (where both sides will claim victory).
What we are seeing today has happened many times before in F1 and will happen many times again... F1 will survive and we will see all the teams take part next year...
Wooo.
Now a few ground rules :)
It will probably be the only way I contribute to Sidepodcast other than commenting :P
Oh? :D
Just kidding. Just contributed so much nice to see someone else give some solid effort in.
I honestly can't wait to finish this month of assignments and exams. One of the best things about not worrying about university in the summer is having so much more freedom to do other things with your creativty, there's so many videos and various other little things with art and photoshop I want to create and accomplish much like the Brawn video I made a month or two ago, or even little photoshop comic strips like I did at the start of the year, so it should be great :D
End of the month?? Lucky, lucky you.
You've done so much I think we are just leaving it to you sometimes... ;)
I have until the 5th June and then I'm free from Uni!! :)
Until next year...
:D
I finish this Thursday ;)
And I have to wait till June 24th
How come? It scared the Piquet out of me?
i should point out that uni is more than just long holidays
June 18th! (I'm not here)
Where are you then?
i may have tuned out the tweetdeck pinger. christine leaves hers running night and day, thus i've learned to sleep through it.
Lies! I leave it running in the day. When you sleep is your lookout.
Theoretically I'm offline writing the last part of my project.
I turned my noise off because it distracted me. Then I learned to turn tweetdeck off.
:D
:D
Anyway, I really am not here, so I'll pop my head in again in a few hours..
rofl...... well sometimes the best way to complete is to 'compete' :-D
Siestas are definately underrated though :-)
According to this programme about sleep I'm watching, the best time to take a nap is between 2 and 5 in the afternoon and for no longer than half an hour :P
Yes, like they'll allow me to sleep during English.
So this is another thing to add to my 'what is the point of twitter' mindset...
(mind you - I just keep the speakers turned off for everything. Its when you get 5 mins into something playing oniPlayer and realise that you can't actually hear it that one remembers about the sound.... )
hehe.
you can talk to heikki and sutil?
Withdrawal is futile
Doesn't need to be a 'nap' either - reading a book for 30 mins will have the same stress reducing effect :-) As will 30mins TM (not that those of us with children ever get to do that these days!!)
Hmm.... well.... nope that just isn't floating my boat at all....
:-D
Nico Rosberg takes a siesta by holding his arm out of the bed with a bottle of water in it ... so he drops it when he falls into deep sleep therefore only sleeping light. He swears by it apparently...
Hmm, interesting :P
One day he will swing his arm round and knock himself unconcious
he also said he loves porridge with only water, and his ideal holiday is swimming in a freezing cold lake.
personally i'm sticking with an alarm clock ;)
hehehehehehehe.
i use 2, i used to use 4 :D
Depends on how far off ground said bed is, what the bottle is made of...
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and whether you have a helpful child or spouse or collegue who is likely to come along and gently remove said bottle from your hand to a slightly safer place and tuck your arm in
And porridge made with water is yummy, as long as you have decent oats to start with :-)
:D
You can tell I tried this once can't you... was twarted by a 3 year old.
I see toxicfusion just can't stop editing the Wiki :D
Don't be surprised if Bernie is pulling the strings
You forgot the bit about mountain biking in the alps while doing this...?
he's plainly mental :)
Aww, San Antonio Spurs think I support them on twitter. Must have got the Spurs confused. Bless
top 500 this week?
Is that regarding the bike or the alps part? Probably a lot less mental that driving around a track inches off the ground at 200mph though....
Ooh this sleep programme has David Brabham on it.
Section about jetlag with the ALMS.
not franck?
Well, David was driving for Acura, like Franck...
They should have Piquet on giving advice on how to sleep on a noisy Sunday afternoon
What sleep programme is this? The 404 did a great podcast about it too...
Just looking on the BBC site now. Might be Horizon, not sure.
Reading back through the comments from today I can't believe anyone actually believed/believes that Ferrari is going to pull out. Enzo Ferrari made statements like this from the 1950s and the comany has constantly threatened to withdraw from the championship or not attend races. Ferrari will be in F1 next year as will all the other teams with the possible exception of Renaul and Toyota.
They will be racing on the same tracks F1 is scheduled to be on and all the broadcast contracts will be the same. From an audience point of view nothing will change.
They're trying a way of beating jetlag with Brabham and Oliver Gavin. Brabham was to starve himself until he got back to the UK, while Oliver could eat what he wanted. The theory was that if you eat breakfast at say 7:30am while your body clock is still essentially in another timezone. So not eating until the first regular timezone in the country you've just landed in helps your body clock reset quicker and helps you get a better night's sleep, making you feel more alert and with better reactions and such. And it worked!
I can vouch for that - when I fly to NZ (12 hour time difference), I try and wake up on the "morning" of my arrival and eat around the breakfast lunch and dinner (the airlines often help with this). Then try and stay awake until evening and you'll sleep well the first night and not feel too bad the next day. It still takes 3 days to completely get used to the change but I never feel jetlagged when I do this...
i guess it depends on how crazy you think max is. i can't see luca backing down if he's gone to the trouble of involving the board. someone has to give in a little.
right now i'm not confident in saying that anyone will, or that anyone won't. fota have all the power, the fia appear to be screwed, and bernie must be rubbing his hands figuring out what he can cream off of whom.
in the end it's the fans with the most to lose, but it'll be fun watching from the sidelines regardless.
I used to set my watch to the destination time zone as soon as I got on the plane, then attempt to follow the meal time patterns of that time zone. Unfortunately they would then start dishing out the booze, which ultimately made a mockery of the whole project. Jet aviation makes tramps of us all.
I didn't say Max or the FIA would be involved.
Either everything will essentially stay the same or the teams and Bernie will set up on their own. From our point of view nothing will change.
OK.
Completely OT this... but does anyone here happen to be not in the UK and a Scout (or have a scout to 'hand')? I have a slightly miserable scout at this end who is only a letter from an overseas scout away from her gold chief scouts award....
They've changed a bit since woggles or what have ya.
Funnily enough, I was about to comment on the "10 Things You Need To Know About Sleep" (which UK readers will be able to find in the iPlayer, BBC One, 9pm once the program has finished) but evidently I wasn't the only one who spotted the Brabham/Gavin piece.
Since my furtherest journey so far has crossed a mere one time zone, I am not in a position to add any personal experiences to the "how to combat/not combat jetlag" canon.
Considering I get confused when I go to Cyprus, scared to imagine how going to New Zealand would fare
can i just say, this might be my favourite comment ever :)
should we put a shout-out in the daily post?
There is a scout hut about 100 metres from our house, but I fear that in the present climate of paedo-mania the powers-that-be would take a poor view if I attempted to 'borrow' one...
LOL
agreed, i think Stuarts one is possibly my second favourite, but its close lol
I don't know... She seems to have been left to sort it, after the 2 peeps the troop supplied details of have completely failed to response, and the person I located who was willing to supply a scout then got posted to Afganistan on 48 hours notice and couldn't carry through...
I'm just at that :banghead: stage about this now...
I thought you were in the UK anyway
blockquote>There is a scout hut about 100 metres from our house, but I fear that in the present climate of paedo-mania the powers-that-be would take a poor view if I attempted to 'borrow' one...
the fans will loose out because it won't be a quiet war. this is likely to get more nasty and more public before it's resolved.
i don't think they're will be a lack of racing either, in fact my biggest concern still relates to the banning of refuelling and nobody is blooming well talking about that :(
Just wondering, when are the FIA presidency elections?
Is there not a scout website with international contacts?
jon, i left a comment on your site, but it appears to have gone awol. should i try again?
Hmmm funny that... do you think this could be an attempt to 'distract' us from this happening with other matters?
Too far away.
True. But if I spirited one abroad in order to obey the letter of the request, it would be well Glitter, man.
There must be scouts on twitter
Yes. But you need login details to access it, and DD1 doesn't have any (and there appears to be an inability to provide her with some)
but does anyone here happen to be not in the UK and a Scout (or have a scout to ‘hand’)? {Comment #863}
Bad news - the only Scout I know is very definitely English.
Good news - there's a penpal program at Scouts International. I don't know if there are any special rules for the letter, but if any international scout under any circumstances will do, then contact the National Pen-Pal Co-Ordinator, David McEvoy and he should be able to help (the e-mail address is provided in a link from the Pen-Pal Co-Ordinator link).
Come to think of it, the site appears to have an Australian address, so I suspect that David is himself an Australian scout. A letter from him responding to the request may in itself fulfil the criteria. Unfortuantely, I don't know for sure because I'm not going to be able to see my local scout again until Monday...
He has a point
could well be. but thinking they got the ferrari board to convene just to distract us from the banning of refuelling is probably a step to far even for me.
i thought it was sometimes around November? but i think i'm just picking a random month in my head.
Get Kathi to skype a scout.
sounds right to me
:D
:D
You'd never be able to publish this nowadays...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouting_for_Boys
Do I smell a new blog?
http://pitlanefanatic.wordpress.com/
unless tweetdeck lies, lies, better not lie.
w00000t!
YAY!!
that is a rather unfortunate title, in hindsight.
although S4G
oops, i sneezed!
was gonna say... although S4G seem to have made it work for them.
Stick scouts association into a search engine and you get all sorts of international scout groups from all over the world
:D
Pic on drop.io...
It wasn't me. I don't agree with that at all
They did republish this last year for the anniversary, as an official scouting publication though :-)
ahh, that's much better. can't help but think the chap deserved a bigger memorial though.
Apple news - OS X 10.5.7 is out. Adds support for some new digital cameras, but not the one that me owns.
sidepodnews. doesn't download, doesn't install.
am trying the full version instead, but software update = fail.
NASA are looking at pictures of some damage to tiles on the shuttle. Normal stuff that they can repair in orbit if necessary. They think they can see the cause from the launch video. Every mission they have a camera on the robotic arm scan the surfae of the shuttle for any damage.
Closing on Hubble and will spenf the night in a parking orbit below it so that they can close the gap and dock tomorrow.
Off to sleep now. Night all :)
I think we may have our next Amy
night scott.
Same here - is that any surprise when everyone is trying to get it at once?
I know some Irish sea scouts I could ask, would that work?
ahhh. possibly, yes. although the error was installation failure, but why did it try, when the file had only downloaded 22%?
I've no idea. Software Update usually works fine for me. Don't forget to back up before applying the update :)
what can possi...
You know you've been here too long when you start wanting to use the word 'piquet' instead of other words lol
This is one of the guys I’ll see at the WSR event at Silverstone. His name’s Jean Ragnotti and well…I’ll let you judge just how mad he is {Comment #251}
He is also a sometime driver of the Safety Car, back when Monaco was allowed to choose its own Safety Car driver. In that capacity, he was notorious for an unfortunate collision with Taki Inoue's Footwork... ...while Taki still occupied the car.
Ah yes – well, it’s T minus two hours until the Gordon Murray interview, and then it’s just about done… {Comment #257}
That's great :) Hope the path to publication is smooth.
:D
NASA just said that if necessary they could launch Endeacour on Monday for a rescue mission. First they launch ahead of schedule. Now they reckon they can organise a launch in 5 days. Something is wrong with the space time continuum.
Docking with Hubble is scheduled for 11 am ish EDT / 4pm is UK tomorrow
Now they are just showing off. A rescue misson would be the end of the shuttle.
Fisi seemed to think he was one of the fastest at the end, probably because of the tyres…
he sounded like the most miserable man on earth. presumably because croftie was interviewing and not holly? {Comment #276}
To be honest, he's sounded pretty unhappy every time I've heard him over the Spanish weekend (though when Martin was interviewing him on the grid, I suppose he did have cause...) I wonder if the disconnect between where he thought Force India were going to be by this point in the season and where they actually are is starting to eat away at him. He's saying the right things, but the tone reminds me of early 2001 and that is not a good sign.
could very well be the case. be interested to know what is bugging him, because with a rear-half of a slow mclaren and no kers, how well is he expecting them to do?
They have to have the option of a rescue because they are going to Hubble and if they hit problems they can't just camp out like they could in the ISS.
I don't know what the plan is if the second shuttle fails as I think they only hav one more operational shuttle and it is not ready to fly.
:-)
Thanks Al and Alinora (email has been despatched :-) )
Anymore? At this point DD1 would rather have a lot of letters to write than be left without any....
The final podpanel of the series is up for anyone interested:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/05/12/sidepodpanel-why-does-god-hate-finnish-people/
I listened to the recording yesterday and it was really funny. I am sure the edit is really good too
For those who don’t know what we mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VkRgUcP_rM {Comment #338}
I've seen it and still don't know what you mean. Though it resembled a leisurely jog rather than actual running, which maybe has something to do with me not understanding the joke (well, it wasn't exactly as if returning to the pits at full pelt was going to get him back into the race...)
All shuttle missons require a backup rescue misson. This one is only different because Endeavour has to be ready to launch within five days rather than the 28 days needed for ISS missons.
Looks like Pitpass has started the silly season already :)
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=37893
But how would the original tweeter know it’s the reply to his tweet? {Comment #370}
Maybe because the tweeter would look at their comments and realise that was the one and only reply that made sense in the context. There were probably questions that didn't get asked, though, which might confuse things a bit.
I've messaged the scout I know and should hear back from her tomorrow.
Looks like Pitpass has started the silly season already :) {Comment #926}
It's even less certain than Pitpass are claiming because Sutil's contract ends at the end of 2009.
ohhh… poor martin. gets blamed for every jinx on the grid. {Comment #371}
I suppose that's the price of inheriting the "best British TV commentator" mantle from Murray Walker. The Walkerisms and commentator's curses come with the territory as surely as the plaudits.
I didn't realise the live shows were so mush fun until I watched the replay last night. You sound so professional in the edited versions!
“Ferrari has confirmed that it will not enter next year’s world championship unless plans for a voluntary £40 million budget cap are changed.” {Comment #435}
The questions are:
1) How much change does Ferrari need to see exercised by the FIA before it acts?
2) Why was the rest of FOTA not in on this (otherwise there'd have been a joint declaration of some sort, even if only some other teams were in on it)?
3) On a similar note, how will this affect di Montezemelo's leadership of FOTA?
4) How will the relationship between Ferrari/FOTA and FIA/Bernie be affected by this behaviour?
Thank you, everyones been raving about it, i've been saving myself :D wooo excitement
The live shows are even better when you are in the comments live or on the show.
hehe, everyone says that their first time :D
i think they are. but ferrari are happy to lead and the others are happy to let them.
strengthens his position.
The counter-argument for it would be to make the budget cap compulsary. But obviously no-one really wants that either from what I’ve gathered. {Comment #466}
Reason #1 being that the EU would fine the FIA to pieces if it tried, and anyone else who helped make it happen (which would include any team voting for it in FOTA proceedings, plus CVC if any link between it and the FIA could be proven in this matter).
christine has some stunning editing skills. stunning.
That's very true, from what I heard
"so, andy...why does God hate finnish people"
:D :D :D
On what grounds? I don't understand.
Teams don’t want a two-tier F1, but at the same time don’t want the budget cap to be compulsary. The only compromise is to increase the budget cap to contemplate the wealthier teams. Other than that I’ve no idea how we sort this out. {Comment #478}
I think the only thing the teams would accept is no budget cap at all. The teams feeling the pinch are quite capable of cutting back or leaving on their own initiative and resent some paternalistic governing body treating them like three-year-olds. It's now got to the point where the paternalism itself is deemed a reason to leave on top of everything else.
The FIA isn't needed to save the teams from themselves; if they are salvageable, the teams will save themselves. In this scenario, the FIA's job is to help the teams who are struggling to keep their heads above water (or indeed to swim in the first place) - for example by loosening the technical regulations to allow multiple paths to a fast car - not to alter the complexion of the championship for absolutely everyone and risk backfiring.
Remove the budget cap
They probably pushed Ferrari into going early so that it is harder for them to stab the others in the back. It would be a lot easier for Ferrari to renege against joint statement than an independent decalration.
I think this is precisely the reason he was made leader. Rumour has it Ron Dennis was the man behind him being elected. He has a much harder job of wriggling out of the deal if he is leading FOTA.
Ferrari/FOTA will be strengthened. Bernie will follow the money. So far that has meant the FIA but he would drop them in a second and side with the teams if there was a financial benefit.
The FIA is not a national governmental organisation, and as such the EU has no juristiction to fine it.
The *french* govt. could look at its practises wrt competition and mon&merg under its national laws (as the FIA has a headquarters in the country) but this too would be sticky.
In the UK it would be fineable under the C&E laws if it was deemed to be using payments as a way to avoid duty, excise or taxation (for example the non-payment of VAT)... but as an org it isn't based here so that's a moot suggestion.
mac stuck in endless reboot cycle!
i thought macs never went wrong?
this one has
How many times?
I told you to back up. ;)
:( aww noo :(
i hope it gets sorted soon.
40 maybe?
That's not strictly true. It's just that when they are working they work a lot better than Windows machines do. Plus Apple technical support is the best available - a fact recently verified by Consumer Reports.
They don't. It probably has a very good reason to keep rebooting.
DPs just froze here as well.
Although apparently this is not the mac equiv. of the BSOD... oh no no no no nooooo
:-)
Mind you - first time in ages that its gone tits up, compared to this laptop which has gone tits up 3 times today, and yesterday had to be rebooted 3 times in under an hour.....
That's not good. Damn.
You obviously never had to administer a network full of them
Not related to the OS update though. I've not applied that yet, stil running TIme Machine.
:(
i didn't say i haven't. i don't have time to reinstall though.
I think as usual Max has seen a problem and come up with the wrong solution. I tend find that most problems and solutions in F1 come down to the technical regs. It is perfectly possible to design a set of technical regs that allow teams to build a reasonably competitive car at a low cost.
We have discussed before banning carbon bodywork, wings etc and mandate aluminium or aluminium alloy. That not only limits the cost of materials but limits the complexity of shapes that can be made and therefore limits the number of iterations of design that can be made and tested and saves further cost.
There are numerous other simple regulations that would slash costs and limit the amount of performance that can be gained by throwing money at it.
try powering off completely and then reatart.
Also, have you tried a safe boot? Hold shift key down as soon as you hear the chime, then release when the apple logo appears
I like the idea of a cage match.
I don’t, I have a feeling Briatore would win. {Comment #533}
I'm not so sure - I don't think he's got as heavy a right hook as, say, Stefano Domenicalli or Christian Horner, have.
Or else Frank Williams would win because he could argue that everyone has to fight in a wheelchair to make it fair and while the others argued, he'd quietly sign the victory documentation and win by default ;)
I don't see a problem, unless you were trying to make them play with Windows ;)
aaaand we're back! reboot didn't help, but removing the battery did.
0/10 for apple upgrade experience. vista-esque.
Nope, it was just Macs. The local Apple rep basically said they are not very interested in their server products. Desktops are great home machines though.
Was this 10.5.7 update related, if so:
Combo or through Software Update?
There's a famous story about someone (can't remember who) who was challenged to a duel. As the challengee, he got to choose the weapon and location, so he chose woodcutting axes in a darkened cellar knowing that neither he nor his opponent could lift the axes.
That's a pity because OS X server does a lot for not much money.
software update failed twice. went for the combo (400mb-ish download).
got stuck in some kind of white screen/blue screen flashing loop.
going for a safari update now. wish me luck.
I wish they never tried. I probably could have got a good system running with a Linux backend. Oh well, old news......
Hmm, my combo is 729MB from Apple download site
Haven't installed yet, usually wait a day or two for the feedback to roll into the forums
I’m having a nose in my student cook book….{Comment #567}
I did some cooking of my own this evening. I'm really proud of myself because I managed to make a salad nearly all by myself :D
Just reading some NASA stuff on the Hubble mission while listening to the edit of the podpanel. I think I can see why they are having problems with Hubble. Each NASA mission has a patch that has the names of the astronauts and some logo/drawing relating to the mission. The current STS125 patch makes Hubble look like a projector rather than a telescope.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/hst_sm4/overview.html
it was bought to my attention that a pop up comes up when i plug any headphones in...
"Information
You just plugged a device into the audio jack"
Really? I hadn't noticed! LOL
That's not the Combo, sounds like the regular update of 442MB
I always go with Combo via Apple site
I almost fell off my chair the first time I saw that. Nice to know the computer can tell you what you are doing
Is that what you get when you run the telescope in reverse? Or is it one of the new instruments they will be fitting?
Vista? :|
i love vista now, i love how it asks me what to do, it's like the kid at work experience who dosent want to screw things up for himself so asks what he has to do for everything....oh no wait, that was me ;)
Naturally
I get that with Vista. Or I did before the damn thing died again
Projecting images on to the Moon is the future of advertising.
In the unlikely event that anyone wants to hear mine, I’ll be on Radio Wales in about 45 mins… {Comment #584}
Of course we do! I'll be sure to look for the inevitable drop.io, since I missed being able to hear you live.
I have a good excuse though. At the time you were talking to BBC Radio Wales, there was a foal born at my farm. It's a brown filly with a big white blaze on the front and it's already showing an unusually high amount of determination/stubbornness for a horse.
I think it is just poor artwork. There is nothing being fitted that can create a universe.
ahh, may have picked the wrong one then.
do me a favour. when snow leopard is released... do.not.tell.me. at least not for a couple of months.
also, i want a quad-core macbook!
Vista - the only OS that interrupts network traffic just so that you can be sure of hearing system sounds without stuttering.
Someone will do it
You get an ebony bath, a conical one...
Batman
Me too, or even just an iMac
branson?
Isaac Asimov wrote a short story called "Buy Jupiter" in a similar vein.
Sony? Love to see the Terminator up there
Noone is forcing you to upgrade, you do know that. I am merely informing.
:D
That may be a very good call
Some of us have this compulsive behavior whenever we see the word "upgrade"
And as a rule, u[dating on the 1st day isn't always a great idea
i can't help myself.
Me neither. Wretched isn't it?
cackle...
we've all been there.
Once I did a weeks work experience where I actually learnt something useful (Cdos6 to be precise)... other than that I just spent time dossing/working in studios where I would have been anyway (not that I ever told school that :-D )
I don't love vista though... I'm treating it like the DCSF... not something I ever plan to come into even the vaguest of contact with
you say it like there's some kind of choice in the matter? like the "update" button isn't literally glowing in anticipation.
:D
i blame steven of course.
He knows best
i'm now worried that i'm not running vista or anything. i don't get told when i plug headphones in or anything.
naturally ;)
I bought Vista. I know nothing
now that's an interesting spin on it.
I'm of the opinion that I'm safer on XP.
We were discussing OCD today at work. One of my colleagues said "I'm CDO." What's that I asked. "It's OCD but in alphabetical order" :D
:D :D
I ran up Win 7 yesterday. It's very pertty.
You're exactly the sort of customer that Microsoft loves best.
I'm listening to the Panel, has Scott undertaken the "EJ school of Kimi lacks motivation"?? ;)
yeah you are. i prefer XP.
:-D
Although I'd still prefer a mac... hint hint
does seem better than vista. anyone have a release date for it yet?
I'm sure it looks nice if and when it works.
Another Microsoft dream customer. To be fair though, they have come up with some cracking features in Windows 7, it's just a shame these features are mainly things that OS X has had for a while.
:D
Probably sometime in your summer. Much better than Vista, but then that's not saying much is it?
i would LOVE to have a mac. but i have no money. Dad says he may get me one before i go off to uni next summer.... so i suppose i'll have to wait.
Oh please don't start that one!
I think if I had a laptop it would probably be an Apple of some type. If I got another desktop it would be a PC.
Make sure that you wait until you have something to show that you are a University student - Student ID = discount on the Mac.
i saw something tabout upgrading for free, but it only lasted a certain amount of time
november or erm december i think.
Leo Laporte discusses Windows 7 in this weeks TWiT and no-one has a bad word to say about it. They had a lot of people on a phone call and those who had tried it raved about it.
I wonder if Kathi hosts Leo's calls too.
well, no. but that's the best microsoft are going to get out me.
the desktop backgrounds are nice too.
= very very useful sized discount, of parent pleasing proportions...
Actually yes! Some beautiful photos. Thats what is so pretty :-)
Have you started driving the car he bought you yet?
Why not? It's true. I watched the Windows 7 demo video the other day, the only really innovative feature was the ability to "snap" windows to the screen size.
does he randomly call strangers too?
No but he had about 20 people on one call
os x can snap windows?
oooooh. in that case she must be.
I suggest either emailing me for details or getting yourself to the nearest Apple store and asking there.
No, but Windows 7 can.
ahh sorry. misread your comment. hoping they'll sneak that into snow leopard then.
Wasn't that weird? Not as bad as I thought it might be though
oooooo i'll keep that in mind. thanks! :D
How to Instantly fail a drunk driving test
:D
it's a long story :(
what’s with all the swearing today? {Comment #620}
I can only assume a lot of people are in a bad mood.
we're listening...
i will.... when dad says he will buy me one..... or when i have enough money to buy one :D
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos.aspx
Basically you drag a window to one side of the screen and it snaps to fill half of it. You then drag another window to the other side to fill the rest. Useful for comparing pages.
Oh dear.
FWIW I'm fairly sure there's a student discount on MS licences too.
you really want to know about the disaster that was me getting in the car the other day for the first time?
Eveni... Morning.
Have I missed anything in the many hours I've been working today?
You don't have to be in a bad mood to swear.
Yup
Can you give us a quick version?
Oh yes please. :D
But you pay for it when a piece of your soul dies ;)
Yes please. I've had car trouble lately and it'll make me feel not alone.
i need to install silverlight? i'll trust your explanation.
As opposed to selling it to satan?
Ferrari say they're leaving F1 unless the budget cap is removed. Nothing important.
Only if you are an Apple fanboy or a Linux geek.
You do? Oh I forgot I installed it for some reason.
Nothing to do with silverlight
:D
Of course we do.
And I mean that with the greatest of respect to those who are ;-)
I've found it's on a par with Flash... Although thats not really saying much. It's like saying it's on a par with leperacy.
What does Bernie want with souls? Unless he has convinced Simon Gillett to buy them
There are student discounts on many software products, e.g. Adobe CS4 and Microsoft Office. The catch is you can't upgrade them.
I think me means that he has to install Silverlight to view the videos I linked to.
And they wonder why there is so much piracy.
Its not any better than you can get for being in education or the parent of someone in education... and its only on 'home' versions, when the stuff you'd actually find most useful as a student isn't in those....
anything vaguely creative doing at uni = mac is possibly more likely to suit. Certainly helps when you can go home from the editing suite and carry on with your edit without having to book extra time 'in college' (like, being able to drink energy drinks/coffee around your machine, ditto eating, ditto getting it done at 3am) especially when not every uni has a 24 hour 'creative' lab set up....
erm... ok. i'll try....
So on saturday i was as you know feeling really ill, and was just curled up on the sofa after quali. Mum decided it was the perfect time to go out into the drive and try and start up the car. I reluctantly went with her and what happened next was basically a disaster. She was aiming for me to just drive the length of the drive (not far at all). So that i had somewhere to start come my first lesson. Sadly that wasn't the case. i ended up stalling the car about 15 times, not moving anywhere and she got really frustrated and disappointed. in my defence i was feeling awful. but yeah, Dad is now putting lots of pressure on me to drive and drive well and it seems to be a bit disastrous. I have my driving lesson soon and am now not looking forward to it.
I know many many people who download programs off the school system...
Oh - and I’m rather intrigued by whom it is knows this stuff… the ‘classical’ english education is obviously alive and well, just not in England {Comment #674}
I remember doing that subject as the first history class in secondary school - "We Three Kings of England Are" and all that.
why the sudden urgency?
When Photoshop CS4 costs £650+ you don't have to wonder. I use Photoshop Elements (£65) and Aperture (£126) instead. I also have Pixelmator (£42) which makes me wish I'd not bothered with Elements.
Did you run into the back of an unknown persons parked vehicle because your parent got spooked and you missed the pedal with your foot on a steep hill?
Or did you only just miss a local cow?
Or how about getting something very very muddy and having to explain why? (and that it, technically speaking, wasn't actually 'mud')
ok...so just a few pointers spring to mind...
1) dont drive with your parents
2) dont drive with your parents
3) dont learn to drive for the first time with your parent
4) dont drive with your parents
5) dont driver with your parents
6) proper driving instructors are soooo much better
i'm not sure if i'm making myself clear ;)
7) DONT DRIVE WITH YOUR PARENTS
all parents do it at our age, its a "get it out the way before uni" thing
If you feel they are putting too much pressure on it may be worth telling them so. Suggest holding off until the exams. Though you may already have done this.
Parents are a problem. You can't learn to drive in a driveway. It i like learning to ride a bike in the bathroom.
Think of your first driving lesson as being your first sidepodpanel. You will be nervous but once you get into it you will really enjoy it and it will be over way faster than you can believe.
In other words, just in time for you to have no money to run a car, or need to drive one..... or to cost them a *stupid* sum in insurance (as in, far more than it costs to go to Uni these days)
i have no idea :s it seems so stupid because it's the last thing i want to do, i just want to pass my exams :s
Lou - sometimes your parents aren't the best people to show you how to do something. My dad taught me, but that was many years ago and he'd worked part time as a driving instructor too. The biggest problem was that he didn't stop teaching me once I'd passed :S.
Clutch control can be a tricky thing and it takes a lot of practice to get right. Remember you have no anti-stall :)
I agree with Jon. Instructors are expensive and worth it. Only do the parent thing for practicing between lessons..
i've been 17 for 7 months now, i think it's cause a lot of my friends are now learning he feels i should be too :(
I'm sure if you've managed to navigate for 17.5 years you can manage another month or so. Plus you have friends to give you lifts in the meantime.
But remember, even AntHam still picks LewHam up on his driving!
haha i know that, and i'm not going to be (thank god) mum just wanted me to feel a bit better within the car for my first lesson. As it is it turns out i can't travel a centimetre atm.... i can tell it's going to take me a loooong time to learn.
I've also just remembered that on my first ever lesson, my dad taught me how to stop the car. A few minutes later I needed that information when someone pulled out on me without looking.
He also took me to a derestricted road and made me accelerate up to around 40mph.
"you don't like that do you?" he asked.
"no" was my nervous reply
"see, no one needs to drive over 40 do they?"
He was right, for a while.
“Formula One chief executive Bernie Ecclestone today admitted that F1 was teetering so near the brink of financial disaster he would not personally invest in it.” {Comment #742}
That is a really dumb thing to say. Honesty may be a good thing, but that sort of honesty tends to lead to loans being called in and investment mysteriously vanishing.
Does Bernie have some reason why he needs to kill F1, other than to make a Bernie-run GP1 series fly?
i am really against them teaching me and luckily i am having lessons with an instructor soon. so i'm just trying to get them to leave it alone until my exams are done.
After my first experiences (detailed below) I didn't actually bother trying again 'officially' until I was 21/22. In the meantime I drove quite a lot in Andy's car (thank you dear) and on chunks of the quantocks that belonged to the parents of friends of mine (between 17 and 19 basically, and then in uni holidays occasionally for the purposes of getting home from pubs on 'the estate' to their house...). And rather a lot of example #3 (the one where it wasn't mud).
it wont, the hardest bit of driving is the first lesson, getting your clutch right.
and also remember, most non-instructor cars aren't built for beginners in the clutch area, your instructors car will be alot better setup for you (aslong as you can reach the pedals ;) i have the opposite problem being 6'3" and having size 14 feet. the pedals look far apart, but when you hit the gas and brake at the same time when doing an emergency stop....they're really not....stupid feet)
See now, I had been riding motorbikes sice I was 10. I LOVED the accelereation! 40mph? Pah!
Also true if your feet are only just size 4's if its something silly like a Ka!
anywho....
night all. sleep beckons
hehehe, i cant even fit in a KA. i bought some racing boots at Autosport Int' because i was struggling so much
Lou - are you feeling any better now for this catalogue of disaster?
just found that comment in spam, apologies rob:
cheers for featuring f1 minute. it's been a while since we made someone cry...
Lol - and the worst part is that I still struggle to see properly in a Ka at five foot (ish)... its just a crap vehicle basically (and no I don't own one!!)
Size 12 or 13 feets here...
Difficult at the best of times to get good shoes - good race boots was even harder. :(
I had a piquet-esq moment earier that you would have all been proud of....going down my new favourite bike trail a little fast, braked a little hard, rear tyre locked up, i held the slide....right into a bush....
bad times
Bye Jon
Learning to use a clutch and accelerator together is very difficult. You have to remember that a professional instructor will have a brake and clutch pedal and can therefore help you with the clutch initially.
When you're in control of a moving vehicle for the first time, it's more than fast enough. I gained confidence really quickly, but it's a valuable lesson.
Ouch!
yeah i kinda am. i am still so scared about my first lesson though. it's strange cause driving is always something i've wanted to do, and i now seem so nervous about even thinking about learning :(
But thanks everyone, i love the support and advice you guys give :D
However it's getting late and i am in school for revision sessions and stuff tomorrow so i need to get some sleep. Night!! x
Alternatively say sod the crutch and drive an automatic (although I don't actually rec. that as a learning in thing cos otherwise you're license is restricted and getting a hire car is a pita!)
Does that make it a Waldock magnet?
I'm left handed, so when I am holding something while riding my bike, it automatically goes into the left hand. You can see what's coming can't you?
The number of times I've gone over the handlebars as a result...
I guess you didn't have a big brother with V8s then?
No. My dad wasn't really into fast cars. I learnt to drive in a 1978 Skoda.
Which is why he has a bag.....
Lol.
Tractors are fun :-)
The instructor should be reassuring if they are good. You shouldn't feel nervous again until the day of the test but everyone gets that. Night.
Well I learnt in a Morris 1500, but the V8 was always in the yard :-)
formula one is a very odd business. Everyone is rich but nobody has any money. Teams are financial blackholes propped up by manufacturers and billionaires. Tracks are propped up by governments and are destined never to break even.
At the same time, everyone drives an expensive car, wears a tailor made suit and skips around with a trophy girlfriend on their arm. {Comment #755}
It costs about 100 times less to have the car, suit and girlfriend as it does to make an impact on the monolith that is F1 - as a team, a circuit or a power-that-be. The trappings of wealth, in part, shield their egos from the seemingly unattainable level of wealth that would allow them to be a victorious team/profitable circuit/effective power-that-be in the context of everything else currently in F1.
Sleeeeeeeppppp is calling.
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I found the hardest part was adapting from a SNES controller. The numbers of hours playing Mario Kart did not translate. You have to remember to steer to the centre again instead of just letting go...
Good night Lou and others who are leaving
I've not done it recently. Not since I was in school. I've learned to let go with my right hand.
:D
My dad used to tell some amazing stories about his pupils. They included a drummer who tried to use the accelerator as the kick drum pedal and a gentleman who would acknowledge every instruction by taking his hands off the wheel and turning to face my dad!
Right - OS X installed, must restart. If I'm not back in a bit you know why.
There are some crazy people around..
Mac discovery [sorry]
Ooh, just discovered you can have different desktop images when using Spaces by installing Spacesuit
I shall disappear also. Will attempt to blag my way into finishing my project at work and 'borrowing' the printer instead of using my own ink :-)
According to this programme about sleep I’m watching, the best time to take a nap is between 2 and 5 in the afternoon and for no longer than half an hour :P
Yes, like they’ll allow me to sleep during English. {Comment #826}
I suppose such a nap would be for less than half an hour... ...though less than half a second might not have been what the advisors had in mind!
Hmmm... Right... Then who was it then? Oh well.
Oh, and morning everyone! :)
They should have Piquet on giving advice on how to sleep on a noisy Sunday afternoon {Comment #854}
This would be a good idea except that I do not think science has a good theory as to why Nelsinho has developed this remarkable capability.
Link?
I'm back by the way, update went fine, just installing Safari
SpaceSuit 1.1
Just wondering, when are the FIA presidency elections? {Comment #875}
November. Campaigning will secretly have begun a month or two ago, but there's no formal start date. As long as all campaigns are completed when the FIA General Assembly meets in Paris, you can technically join in when you like (as long as a national sporting authority is willing to nominate you).
Is Desktop Doohickey ok? :D
probably december 2009? at least that's what the news said today. if that's true, time to save up for a new laptop... :D
That's a mangled link, Bassano found it though
Sorry there was no punctuation in that last post
You're right
If anyone's interested it's
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/icons_screensavers/spacesuit.html
my fault. sorry, will improve doohickey linking in the next version. in the meantime you have to manually remove the [] brackets.
glad you're back andy. and bye to everyone who left.
Thanks for the tip
How's 10.5.7 & DD?
dd should be fine because adobe package webkit separately... although i could check.
from desktop doohickey.
[feels warmer inside aleady]
could very well be the case. be interested to know what is bugging him, because with a rear-half of a slow mclaren and no kers, how well is he expecting them to do? {Comment #920}
It's not so much what he is expecting them to do (because the Force India is only just missing his revised stated expectations) as what he was expecting them to do. Remember nearly everyone thought the McLaren would be a reasonably worthy successor to the driver's title-winning car they produced last year.
bless ya ;)
I just finished Christine's traffic game. Interesting facts at the end of the game. My mouse apparently travelled 115ft during the game. How do they know?
On what grounds? I don’t understand. {Comment #942}
In 2001 the EU dropped their anti-trust case against the FIA and FOM on four conditions. One of them was that the FIA would not get involved in commercial matters. Technically speaking, any form of budget cap breaks this condition, but making a budget cap compulsory more or less forces the EU to act to prevent its instructions from being ignored. If the FIA can do it, so can anyone else caught up in such a dispute.
Besides, neither the FIA nor CVC (who now have the FOM) can afford the millions of dollars of fines the EU is bound to levy on them for an adverse judgement.
Anyone who helped the FIA to introduce budget caps could be considered an accomplice. This would include teams and the FOM, if it could be proved that either had approved of the budget cap.
Even if ALL of the teams agreed to it? That's just like signing a waiver, isn't it?
I got stuck on level 19
There are some evil levels. There are only 20 levels so you were close to finishing it. I finished a few levels with only 2 or 3 seconds to spare.
spam on dropio again
The FIA is not a national governmental organisation, and as such the EU has no juristiction to fine it.
The *french* govt. could look at its practises wrt competition and mon&merg under its national laws (as the FIA has a headquarters in the country) but this too would be sticky.
In the UK it would be fineable under the C&E laws if it was deemed to be using payments as a way to avoid duty, excise or taxation (for example the non-payment of VAT)… but as an org it isn’t based here so that’s a moot suggestion. {Comment #945}
The EU has every juristiction to fine it for the same reason as it's fined Microsoft €1bn and counting - because the EU has common anti-trust laws and it can prosecute under those laws. The FIA and FOM had a narrow squeak after Karel van Miret, an EU Commisioner at the time, initiated an anti-trust case against it in 1999. It is the conditions under which the FIA and FOM were able to go unpunished that result in the budget caps being technically illegal.
The French and Swiss governments would both be able to investigate, but I'm not sure the FIA's actions have broken any laws in either place - yet.
tar.
I still don't see that the EU can do anything about a budget cap. The FIA manage the sport, if one of the rules is how much teams can spend I fail to see how that is relevant to an anti-trust investigation between the FIA and FOM.
You just plugged a device into the audio jack”
Really? I hadn’t noticed! LOL {Comment #977}
At least your computer notices when there's something in the audio jack. This computer doesn't seem to understand the concept of a microphone...
BTW, did anyone record JA's interview earlier tonight?
you think we want to hear him??
It's not like he was commentating - he was giving his expert viewpoint. There could be some gems of thought in there. ;)
but.his.voice...
As I said, not commentating. :P I can live with his regular voice, thank you. ;)
You don’t have to be in a bad mood to swear. {Comment #1057}
True. People swear for a lot of reasons, some of which make absolutely no sense to me (I haven't said a swearword since I was 11). I was just going by all the miserable news stories that it was likely to put people in a sufficiently bad mood that they hit the "Submit" button before doing whatever linguistic clean-ups they normally do.
even in that youtube video??
that counts as commentating images. :P
you sir, have an answer for everything ;)
i'll take that as a compliment, thank you very much. :D
absolutely.
just a thought - did christine only learn how to edit when Sidepodcast started, or did she already have mad skillz before then? :)
Even if ALL of the teams agreed to it? That’s just like signing a waiver, isn’t it? {Comment #1155}
Even then. The teams together cannot countermand the EU, especially when the EU's object in making those conditions was to prevent the governance of motorsport from being a monopoly. Ironically, if some of the teams made a breakaway series, it would make it easier for the FIA to convince the EU that it no longer needed to be banned from financial interference in F1...
blimey good question.
she was editing her libravox recordings pre-sidepodcast, and enjoying it. but i think spc was the first time she tried multi-mic editing (much harder).
the first show she watched over my shoulder, the second i watched over hers and the third she never looked back.
although in the morning, she'll no doubt tell me i've remembered it all wrong ;)
But then they'd lose their cash cow, so they'd still end up with a net loss. :)
She learned very quick, didn't she? I'd think she's a natural. :)
agreed :)
Brilliant. You only have to watch the live replay, then listen to the edited version.
the challenge is to make the live version better. that might the poor girls life a little easier.
Well, I havent seen many, but it looked like that was part of the fun. She did seem a bit stressed Sunday evening though.
it was a very long day. 4+ hours of live shows is a lot, especially with techie problems to deal with.
in part you're right, the disasters are ultimately the memorable bits, but we'd likely die if we had to go through every sunday like that one ;)
if you have time, take a look through some of the archive live shows and let us know what you think though.
night all
night andy.
Will do. Last night my time, I spent the evening laughing to my laptop instead of the TV.
:)
don't tell christine though, archives are evil.
:-)
no, they're not! they're documentation. :D
they are the unavoidable truth!
they're something you can laugh at when you're reminiscing... ;)
also true. although that's what the best of shows are for!
true, true. :)
Hi all, first ever post on here.
I have a few points to make;
1. There is a lot of talk regarding budgets and the huge spending in the F1 world. I personally think that F1 is the cutting edge in this world just below NASA. Well I like to think it is. I don't want it to be just a 'good show'. I want it to be the best people in the world working with the best technology in the world to make a car go around a track as fast as possible. If they do that then it will be a 'good show' naturally.
2. Last year the teams traveled around the world testing. They also had wind tunnels running 24hrs a day. Two tunnels in some instances. I don't know what that cost but I assume it is significant! This year we they have banned that. Why then is that alone not enough as a cost cutting measure? I like how it has played out because in New Zealand they now play the Practice sessions which we never got to see. As a spectator I am more aware of the teams developments which is great.
3. Did no one here about the refueling for next year? They think it will save costs because they don't have to cart big rigs around the world? Are you serious? Strategy is half the fun and working out who is on what etc. If they are serious why not flag the tire changes? Then you don't need any pit crew. Or maybe they could delete the pit wall 'computer screen orgy' That will save money. Hold on I have an idea. Just make it a one car design. That would be perfect. Um nah they have that already. It is called A1 and it SUCKS!
SAVE OUR SPORT
hey honky tonk. welcome.
agreed.
although possibly not with that bit. the more f1 relies on technology the less input the drivers have, the less close the racing is. i want f1 to push boundaries though.
true enough. i miss the ability to go to an f1 test though. last it was was pretty interesting to see. but i do accept the change has made friday's more interesting.
Hello, Honky Tonk! Nice name. :)
That in itself presents an entry barrier. It's all good and well that F1 is pushing the limits of development, but we'd want a full grid of 24 or 26 cars rather than 20.
Because the costs were never really saved. The teams just used the money originally allocated for that somewhere else. Which is why this budget cap malarkey started in the first place. Oh, from New Zealand, eh? Gavin and Amy (our Kiwi expats) will love ya! :D
Mr C will love ya to death! :P My beef with strategy is that it's already overshadowing the racing and giving drivers an easy out to just hold station behind a driver if he can't pull off a pass. No refuelling means they're forced to do something about drivers in front of them. Whatever other people say, if a pitstop is near, a driver probably won't pass. No refuelling means they lose that comfort.
hell yeah!
110% agreement from me on this one. somehow the teams have forgotten about this change though :(
See? Mr C loves ya to death already. :D
to be fair, there won't be any refuelling if there isn't a sport to start with...
bahrain and spain proved it cannot be done. it just can't.
vettel didn't sit behind massa twiddling his thumbs after the last stops in barcelona, he was powerless to do anything. there was no more refuelling to be had, so what do you suppose the reason for sitting on the guys tail until the end was?
if massa hadn't have had issues, vettel would've finished behind massa. look at glock behind hamilton after the last round of stops. no strategy to help him, did he make a move... no.
Hi Honky Tonk
1. Unfortunately the more technology you put on a car the worse the racing gets. We have seen all sorts of technologies banned over the years from early wings mounted on the suspension to turbo-charged engines to active suspension and adjustable aerodynamics. Generally there have been three reasons for banning them. Expense, to slow the cars down or to improve the racing.
2. The cost savings this year are minimal. The teams still have the wind tunnels and the wind tunnels still run 24 hours a day. They may not have people working on them but thy use so much power that the teams need permission from the local power companies to switch them on and off and none of those companies will allow that to be done every week let alone twice a day. People talk about th environmental impact of the cars but each wind tunnel produces far more carbon dioxide than all the cars do all season including shipping them to and from races and tests.
3. I am glad refuelling is banned and I wish all planned stops were banned too. I want to see racing take place on th track. I am fed up hearing drivers saying that they decided to sit behind someone until the pit stops before they put in a few fast laps to overtake. To me if a driver wants the position of the guy in front he shouls take it from him by overtaking him not by doing three fast laps while the guy pits.
One year at Imola for example Schumacher went from 12th to 2nd and only made one overtake in the whole race. That is not motor racing in my book.
I hope you eny the site and the debate.
overtaking won't happen all the time, that's for sure. to be honest, i don't think glock was that much faster than hamilton for him to make a move. he was a little faster, but not by much. and lewis' KERS more or less doomed timo.
Yay! Steven Roy is here! Agreed. :D
I hope so too. :)
To be fair, that may have had a lot to do with KERS. Webber in the same car did manage a great move on Alonso.
Still, the more I think about it, the more I agree.The only thing no refueling will mean is some cars running out at teh end of a race.
even i have to admit it was bloody impressive though.
Just checked in before I go to bed. So much for a quiet exit.
Stay a few minutes. We've been through this before, so I don't think it will take too much of your time. :)
there is that. soon the kers discrepancy will be normalised and everyone will either have it or not. time will tell, but i believe webber made his race happen because of good strategy and clever refuelling.
once was funny. every week would be embarrassing.
hehehe.
Impressive but soooooo boring. Ross Brawn put him on a bit of track no-one else was on and he put in so many fastest laps. It was an impressive feat of driving but I would far rather have seen him gain 3 places by taking them from someone than making 10 places on strategy.
There is a reason why there are so many Dijon 79 clips on youtube and none on brilliant race strategy. Strategy is boring.
i've nothing else to add. every race i'm collecting more and more evidence, and the arguments supporting the banning of refuelling are looking weaker and weaker.
i suspect monaco will seal it for me, be you never know...
The only reason he run it was because refuelling went wrong. Had he been fuelled to go the full distance in the calm of the pits pre-race there would have been know problem.
Hi guys.
Me.... (is that me or you?)
Technology - I don't mean driver aids like traction control. I mean technology like aerodynamics, that fluid software stuff etc.
I see your point about going to a test. I have never been so didn't know that. I live VERY far away from any test track!
Journeyer
I would rather see 20 'cutting edge' cars that 26 'slower' cars. Just my thoughts.
Annoying even. I really hated the "no tyre change" rule. Kimi struggling around on a trashed tyre was ridiculous. Slowing down so you don't run out of fuel would be just as bad.
Good point - but by how much would they be slower? Would we even notice? The commentators would probably be saying - "look at how close the field is! separated by just 1 second!" that's sure what they're saying now...
i can be whoever you want me to be :)
i love that too. i (heart) catia and other such software that the teams use.
it's better to please a couple of million viewers than a few thousand obsessives who take a day off, but i'm gutted we'll miss out this year.
ewwwww... don't even go there! :P
or even being "efficient" from the green light.
and it will happen, f1 will become a race between people with a light right foot.
What do you mean by cutting edge and 'slower' ? It may sound a stupid question but if the cars were 10% slower and we had fabulous wheel to wheel racing through the field do you really believe that would be worse to watch?
I have heard people say when turbos were banned that it would not be so interesting. Same when active suspension, ground effect aerodynamics, any number of engine spec changes etc etc. In the end the you are either a fan or not and a variation in the regs doesnt make a huge difference.
oh dear. that is not what i meant!!
Christine will be so embarrassed when she reads that in the morning
i know, but... it just... ewwww. hehehe. :P
:-)
:D doghouse for you. :P
all i meant was... ahh shucks. at least she'll forget the archive thing.
Much as I love these discussions I have to go. I need sleep. I am not Borg.
night steven.
too true. :D hahahaha!
:D
Good night, Steven. :)
I like to think of it this way.
A1 has engine revs at 8,000ish. F1 is 18,000. I know the difference, I can hear it. I don't want to see the field all bunched up with quite engines. They need to be loud and fast. As fast as possible.
That brings me to another point. Davidson said 'the cars are to loud' IDIOT! Get him off the TV!
noooooo. we love davidson. although i didn't hear him say that.
Fair enough. :)
Erm... isn't he on the radio? That said, I would disagree with AD too. But he seems like a good pundit as a whole.
BTW Honky Tonk you do know that you can appear on some of the podcasts sidepodcast produce to discuss you views. Everyone who has been on one has really enjoyed themselves. I am sure the others will explain the details. You should consider it. People with opinions are always good.
He thinks tyres are spherical. The boy is an idiot.
Have you heard Leggard? I don't think he has said *anything* sensible!
haha. you're right there,
I am not here. Honest
Yup, I agree. Have you listened to the podcasts this week, Honky Tonk? :)
the guy got confused. give him a break, he didn't mean it.
you sleep like amy.
sleeping awake? :D
I am not Borg. Just don't tell her. Maybe I should try her sidepodcast withdrawal plan
what does christine's gadget say?
The race is only half the sport for me. I like the development too. I like pushing the boundaries. That is what F1 is to me.
That is my whole point about the 'show'. I don't want a show, I want the very best cars these guys can build.
I understand about keeping the cars close so that there is lots of overtaking but I think slowing down development to achieve that is the wrong way to do it.
Erm... It hasn't exactly worked for Amy, has it? ;)
i challenge steven roy not to answer that one!
Which gadget?
Her decision making gadget told me not to read comments on sidepodcast
And I think the manufacturers agree with you on that. That said, they have to balance that with providing a good show, or else the act just dries up and withers.
He's still awake, ya know. :P
I agree up to a point, but there is always going to be artificial regulation. We don't have ABS, active suspension, turbos, etc, etc....
yeah, that one. if you'd listened, you might be asleep now. just sayin'
Oops. :D
Just to add - if they really built the best cars they could, they'd be wearing g-suits by now. Literally.
In NZ we get the radio commentary over laid with the TV. So we get his stupid comments. I prefer to watch it on mute!
Leggard? Don't get me started on him.
Cool, i would like to see that!
The only way cars can run closely together is by restricting aerodynamics. The teams deliberately design their aero packages to create turbulence to make it difficult/impossible for a following car to run close behind them. They have to be stopped doing that.
F1 history for decades has seen limits on what teams are allowed to do being tightened and it will always happen.
Lucky you! I get Leggard on replay a couple of hours after the race has finished.
true. but we'd get loop-the-loops and a jump or two ;)
I was going to ignore it till I saw the challenge
Hot Wheels !!!!
Challenge answered, Mr C. :P
:D I knew it!
he can sleep now.
I think you're confusing this with the Unnamed Energy Drink Air Race. :P
Hahahahaha! :P
If there were no limits there would be no racing. You would not be able to design a race track they could run on and no human could drive the cars to their limit.
I listen to the Podcasts like a religion.
Is it just me or is Christine hotter because she loves F1?
Sorry if that is not PC. Us Kiwis are like Aussies. We say things like F&@K at the very worse times. Ay Mark!
I will leave it to her husband to deal with that one
Well, I think we'd still see them - albeit being driven by robots. Which would probably mean this sport is finished.
Listen to last week's panel with the "women of F1" hosting :-)
:D I presume Honky Tonk has Felipe Baby on his iPod, then? :P
If you listen a lot it is time you signed up to be on one. We like new people with different opinions.
so long as you keep it clean on here, we have no problem. tis a family website and children read.
there must be more people commenting from the aus/nz than the uk these days?
:P
sidepodpanel series 3 really needs an ANZ special. :D
There would be no way anyone could be within a mile of the circuit. Imagine totally unlimited cars crashing or one going over the wheel of another.
i think you're right :)
i was thinking Monaco parade lap if there will be calls on that show.
Agreed 110%. :)
erm... i'm thinking Star Wars EP1 - and Anakin podracing against Sebulba. :)
won't that be almost midnight though?
that can actually work. but that's not a full-blown discussion. :)
podracing, now there's a mashup.
It would be 8 PM Amy time, 10 PM Honky Tonk time.
i did use the right word, right? Podracing?
My plan was to be in bed by 2am and it is nearly 4am. I must get some advice from Amy on how to get out of here at a sensible time.
I guess that qualifies as a sentence I thought I would never type.
I am definitely going this time.
Night all
ahh, groovy.
Nup, parade lap is perfect. I've been thinking about it.
don't know. but i like the word.
You point is?
night steven.
:D
Good man`
righto. remind me nearer sunday though.
Hahahaha! It's... the 3rd time you've bid him a good night tonight? ;)
If the parade lap is too early there is the Debrief
:D Let's hope I can actually join this time. :)
I am not here
any minute now i'll have to say good morning.
I would have made teh past parade lap, but was working up to the race coverage start.
It IS almost 4 AM over there... why are you still awake?! :P
working, not on spc stuff, actual work.
wow - that doesn't happen too often. get to it. :)
i have no advice as i tried to get out at 11pm and managed to leave at 3am. Withdrawal fail. I think day 1 was only a success as i got 0 hours sleep the night before due to 6am panelling.
Hehe. I'm sure you'll fare better today. :)
That brings me to another point. Davidson said ‘the cars are to loud’ IDIOT! Get him off the TV! {Comment #1231}
Well... ...they're too loud for me when I see them live as well. That's why I have earplugs and may well have ear defenders as well at Silverstone.
Perhaps Little Ant simply needs some appropriate ear protection.
i did use the right word, right? Podracing? {Comment #1286}
Yes. Star Wars Episode 1 features a 15-minute scene of podracing.
You can tell they invented it before Sidepodcast was invented, otherwise they'd have included a giant speaker on each pod blaring out the thoughts, words and music of each podracer as they went round. Maybe even a panel on lap 2 where everyone complained about Sebulba's driving standards...