With the Spanish Grand Prix over, there's a lull in the action before Monaco in two weeks time. It's good for us as we get a rest, but there'll still be news to discuss, such as:
- Bourdais has said that he was lucky not to have had a bigger accident yesterday, as he could have ended up rolling the car. Both Toro Rosso boys consider the accident a surprise, as the first thing Buemi knew of it was seeing Bourdais' tyre, while the latter couldn't do anything as all the cars in front of him just stopped. Will the team find someone to blame though?
- Vettel says his bad start cost him the victory, particularly the fact that Massa got past him so he spent the entire race staring at the wrong end of a Ferrari. Will he be another driver going back to the team and saying we need that KERS?
- Button says Brawn have regained the advantage of the field now, which I find a bit odd because I'm not sure they ever lost it? He's won four out of the five races there have been, so I can't see them having been behind at any point.
That'll do it for now. Please keep the excellent thoughts coming, and let us know what you're doing the day after the race before. As ever, I'll see you in the comments.
Brawn have seemingly been unchallenged, but Red Bull have been very close, or possibly even quicker than them, on raw pace over the last two races. Strategy, luck and track position have been the difference.
JA says on his blog that Brawn will dominate Monaco because they are the fastest in the tight and twisty stuff, using Sector 3 in Spain as evidence. I believe that Red Bull's strength is traction (due to their suspension design?) and that they will challenge Brawn for the win in the principality. They just need to fuel light enough to get pole, and then pray for a safety car free first section of the race so they can build up a significant lead.
I would really like to see my fellow countryman, Mark Webber, get a win. But I also want Lewis to have a good race. Maybe having KERS will help. I'm going to go against popular opinion and say that it will do what it is supposed to (help with overtaking) and that a long fuelled strategy will help McLaren to the top 5.
have awoken. feel a little piquet. today = coffee. sleep before 11pm shall be easy.
You are awake already? Sleep!
have to go to work :(
What time is it there?
its now 11am.
No point sleeping now then
:D Looks like Amy is NOT Borg then. ;)
Pah. I'm convinced she is. I passed out just after the race last night, only to wake up to hear the closing credits on her Panel. Anyone who can do all that must be a robot.
:D
is it home time yet?
Almost
You just finished lunch! :P
Want to go back home to SPC and sleep? :D
Did you enjoy the Panel?
It's 4am. So if 4am is home time yes it is
It's 1 PM her time. :P Long way yet to go. ;)
my alarm is ringing. I have to get up now.
at 5 AM??
6 AM
oh. all right. carry on. ;)
11:17 am here
And here too, Wolf. :D
Sooooo, somewhere it's going home time then?
Nope, not yet, way too early... :D
It's going to work time for most people. Including me, in an hour or so. ;)
I feel like I've been here for hours........
"And here too, Wolf."
no time to prepare the quiz today, it's the Spain trave time
You feel like you have been here for hours? I arrived here at 10am for th parade lap and it is now 4:45am. Time for bed. See you all later.
home time still 4.5 hours away. Just got asked if i want to go home but i feel wide awake now and cant justify the lost wages :) i only leave early if there is free practice to watch ;)
Good girl! :D
Weird day/night. I will sleep tomorrow - hopefully.
Morning everyone... Missed last night's fun. Just thought I'd point out / mention that the replay video isn't up yet :(
Have fun... I'm off to work.
Welcome to my world. 4½ hours sleep and back to work :(
At least we do our best to make it better. :)
And she woke up at 6 AM - I do that when I work Asia hours, so it's not uncommon for me.
BTW, Mr C, is caching still on? Am back at work, so I'm back to ye olde comments.
i wonder if more sleep would have stopped me putting my hand in a cup of boiling water.
Morning all
On a scale of 1 to dead how are you today? lol
Ouch. Are you awake now?
Neither STR driver is to blame - they were in the wrong place at the wrong time - I still feel sorry for the team though and especially SwisSeb who's new helmet design will have a Bourdais tyre trend across the top.
I like DeSeb, but he needs to realise it is racing, Felipe was in front, don't complain if you cannot pass him on track and use the pit stops to do it like Schumacher senior did.
Since Australia (where they were at an advantage) I really think Brawn has not really had any performance advantage over Red Bull. I think Red Bull with more mechanical grip will be better than Brawn at Monaco. Mark did brilliantly to get onto the podium, but the car was seriously quick at Spain and I am not sure they need that rear diffuser.
I was surprised at how poor the Toyotas went yesterday, first time that Timo did not score points. I wonder if we will see the team fade during the season? Hopefully not as Timo is my man (but I have to share him with RG).
Alonso did well with the whale shark, even if he did ultimately cause the race pile-up at the start. Renault, although doing better than last year, are still far from winning races. PK had an exciting race if you were one of the prospective drivers looking for a Renault F1 seat this year.
Hey Ferrari you starting to have a car that fits the name, now pay your dues to Lady Luck. Felipe yet again gets raised in my assessment. He could have been so much more negative about the team etc given that he was sniffing fumes and conceding positions at the end of the race. Obviously this year he is not going to be in contention for the WDC but hopefully the car will improve in performance (and reliability). Kimi was not able to get past Nick so he was going nowhere fast and then the Ferrari gremlins got the better of the mechanical bits. Was your KERS working - still not sure?
BMW Sauber - still slow - they must owe a debt of gratitude to Force India, because without them they would be the slowest on the grid (yes I think STR are better). Their car still resembles a stranded blobfish in a tankful of Great Whites, Bull, Tiger and Zambezi sharks (not forgetting the pair of whale sharks. Nick sort of got a birthday present with scoring two points and beating a Schumacher record (officially now Mr Finisher). Bobby-K when are you going to score me some points - you are now too cheap to exchange in my Fantasy Team. The BMW Sauber pit crew should get bonuses and cub-cakes as they won the points of the day with slick pit stops for Nick (possibly Nick shared his birthday cake).
Williams are still smoke and mirrors - look good in practice for the sponsors (what's left) but race pace is not there. Nico is a nice guy but I am expecting more on the track, somehow it is just not there. For Kaz another poor race and another reason for Williams to start negotiating with Toyota to swap to their reserve driver who will really push Nico. If STR/Red Bull can have three Sebs why can't Williams have two Nicos?
The consistent and progressive development for Macca came to a somewhat abrupt halt. Mr Integrity/Diplomacy slags off the team rather too publicly. What he fails to see is that he is part of the team. Macca have the best technology and usually produce the best cars on the F1 grid so it is his job to help develop the car. Possibly it was a good time for the team's Fairy Godfather to bid farewell. Kovy seems to have inherited some Webbo luck, possibly he needs to break a leg at the season end to restore his karma.
I admit it, I love Force India's podcasts - especially when interviewing Ian Phillips, their optimism is so refreshing and they are genuinely faster than they have ever been and they have closed the gap to everyone else. Sadly with all this hard work they are still the grid's rear-gunners but at least their car do not look like a blobfish out of water which both finished last in the previous race!
My final conclusion Britain does indeed have a superstar on the F1 track, but he is not from Stevenage but from Somerset. I know I will spark indignation, but Lewis has never put in five consecutive races of the class that Jenson has this season.
i peaked around 3pm. Now i am 45 minutes from home time and about ready to fall asleep again.
Red Bull gives you wiiiiings!
Un-named energy drink ;)
Other Energy Drinks are available (just not as good)!
Anyway Alex, shouldn't you be writing your booky-wook?
Ah yes... I'm not here :)
Regarding the Spam posted earlier, should we forward the guy Peter Windsor and Simon Gillett's contact details? I hear that they could do with a spot of cash... ;)
Did you get any burns? Hope you're OK.
Better not fall asleep on the way home. ;)
The moment I read this, some spam popped up in my work inbox. How odd... But I don't think PW or Mr. Gillett would appreciate us sending their details. :P
Well they did say that they'd do whatever it took to succeed... :P
"Regarding the Spam posted earlier, should we forward the guy Peter Windsor and Simon Gillett’s contact details? I hear that they could do with a spot of cash…"
funny that I was just working on paperwork for our dear bankers :-)
I'm disappointed with GPWeek's latest issue.
Their cover is Rubens saying: "I won't follow team orders anymore."
But if you took the full context of his statement, what he actually means is that he'd quit if he were forced to follow them, but he doesn't think Ross is doing it.
Goodness - even they do it now? :O
Other interesting news:
Bernie says there are TWO US entries. It looks like someone's leaving the IRL... but who?
GPWeek is thinking it's Penske. I'm thinking it's Andretti Green - and they'd have a lineup of Danica-Marco. Ganassi has also been floated as the possible mystery entry.
Interesting, interesting indeed.
I don't think Andretti Green - Michael still has bad memories of 1993.
Penske on the other hand have been in F1 before and I believe they won a race... and TBH, Penske have been compared to an F1 team before because they are so good at what they do. But why would they leave Indycars?
this caching thing makes it hard to follow comments. But 2 minutes til i get to go home to my sweet sweet doohickey
Is the caching thing referring to the daily posts? I have doohickey open at the mo...
Still have my comments on the race in moderation - but I thought this article on what John Surtees has to say about the merits of Lewis and Jenson makes an interesting read. Basically he said Jenson blew what little talent he had and that...
Ahhh you quoted the GMM of newspapers! :P
Everywhere is doing this, the BBC has the exact same thing. It's a bit annotying because it makes him out to be angry in the headline but the actual article shows there's nothing wrong, it's just sensationalist media creating attention grabbing headlines. Look at better sites like auto...sorry, AUTOSPORT!!! ;) ... and you'll see that they actually talk about the team rather than any serious quit threats.
Morning all!
Morning Lukeh!
Yeah it's a bit strange - I seemed to have missed the memo that it was GMM day today?
I have just listened to 5Live Chequered Flag and Anthony Davidson's opinion is that Rubens thinks it was the strategy that lost him the race because he felt that he gave his all, and that the team took decisions based on what they thought was best at the time...
The simple fact is that Jenson made it work better and Rubens was a bit unlucky. He'll get his chances, don't you worry about it! ;)
That line absolutely sums up the whole saga so much. :P
and Rubens win in Monaco will be heaps better because thats the win every driver wants ;)
But I think Mario will be pushing him to go for it anyway. Michael may have been a bad F1 driver, but he's been a great team boss. Marco is a solid, if unspectacular, F1 prospect. And, like Senna, the mere mention of the Andretti name makes potential sponsors everywhere drool. US + Andretti is an unbeatable marketing combo, even better than the Senna name.
Quite frankly, because IndyCar is a sinking ship. Penske needs to move somewhere else (or at least open a 2nd operation in another category) to keep its name up there.
And yep, they won a race in 1976. I think it was with John Watson - could be wrong, though.
Red Bull have said they won't be part of next year if nothing changes:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75248
"So possibly only two or maybe three of the existing teams will enter the championship. The conditions for 2010 at the moment make it impossible to sign in. But I hope there will be a meeting and a settlement before the entry deadline."
Come on Max, sort it out.
But it looks like Surtees really said it. I wonder what he thinks of Jenson now, and if he remembers he ever said this about Jenson... ;)
the Australian media are freaking out about Webber possibly losing his drive.
Aww man. This is getting veeeeeeery silly now. I suppose threats is the only way the message is going to get through to them though.
Max will probably backfoot his way out of the two-tier system. His tactics to divide and conquer FOTA have backfired. And with Bernie not explicitly supporting him, Max may no longer be the kingpin of F1 he once was.
FOTA holds the power now. And they will continue to do so as long as they stay united.
"Come on Max, sort it out."
I must say that I do not really get what the teams are making all the fuss about. They say that the budget capped cars will be 1 -1.5 faster than the cars of the unlimited spenders. So what is the point spending all that money anyway. and as someone somewhere calculated last weekend, the 40mil cap may in fact mean as much as 150mil in spending with the engines, driver salaries and marketing all outside the cap
all can sign up for the cap and 2 tiers are no more ...
Point is, even Rubens thinks it was a strategy error. And many others think Rubens just wasn't fast enough. Either way, both sides would agree that it wasn't something deliberate.
Of the third side of conspiracy, I have nothing to say.
"will be 1 -1.5 faster" - typo, 1 - 1.5sec faster
It's not that simple, Wolf. The development and production of the chassis in itself is very expensive, and 40M is way too unrealistic. I don't think anyone in the paddock outside of the FIA motorhome thinks it's a feasible amount at all.
Or perhaps it may be, but Max can't just snap his fingers and expect it to happen. To go from hundreds of millions down to just 40 with very little warning is not acceptable. Especially when they will have already been spending.
"It's not that simple, Wolf. The development and production of the chassis in itself is very expensive, and 40M is way too unrealistic. I don't think anyone in the paddock outside of the FIA motorhome thinks it's a feasible amount at all."
well, it is that expensive because they all are spending money freely. and , as I mentioned, the cap is not really 40 mil ...
is there anyway how make the nice quote blocks in doohickey ?
Yup, just click on the sentence you want to quote and it should come up in the comment box automatically.
oh yes ! bingo :-)
I think the teams are also worried about having to fire all those people and lose loads of talent...
Where is Steven Roy? We need a historical perspective here...
... and about them being then poached by competition ?
Both sides are at an impasse and will not budge. Whatever happens, I believe we WILL see all the teams in F1 next year...
I think I may quit Sidepodcast.
if I don't get my way.
well and if we do not see somebody then the reason probably will be something else, not the cap. but the cap may be a face saving excuse for quitting (in Toyota's case for example)
Hi everyone
Morning Scott - welcome to the middle of a panic!
Damn this 40 comment budget!
:P
Well if you'd caught me a couple of minutes ago, I was being sick in the toilet :(
even so, the capped items are easily worth beyond 40m, so even if there's a lot of items outside the cap, it's still a very difficult, if not impossible, amount.
Whats up? :(
"We already pulled out once because we did not have the resources to continue. Even if we had $60 million to spend we would have to start from scratch again.
"We don't know where these newspaper reports came from but Aguri has also said there's no chance (of a return)."
Super Aguri return rumours rubbished, as expected
Good thing you can't virtually vomit, then. :D At least you're better now.
He must have read about Red Bull and Toyota already ;)
One less prospect to keep an eye on, then. ;)
And Sato's chances of a return to F1 rubbished once and for all.
I woke up for work this morning with a real bad stomach ache. It came and went over the morning but about 5 minutes ago, I just couldn't hold it in any more. I feel much better now. That's the first time I've been sick like that in a long long time.
Ahh, least it sounds like it's gone through your system now though.
Sounds like you ate something bad... Start with water and if you can keep that down, eat some dry toast and slowly build yourself back up :)
:D Poor Jake
Hehehehe. His spanish gp blog is up here.
Thanks Gav. Not sure what it could have been.
At least BAT qualifying is giving me something to smile about - pole position for the championship decider :)
I think you and Al will be going for it, lou's qualifying didn't go as we planned even though we have a good setup. :(
*kicks silly "Lap could be bettered!" message*
I like JAs latest blog about Brawn being mobbed by fans who were shocked he was on their el cheapo plane :D
Chris is directly behind her on the grid too, so that doesn't make her situation any better ;)
Nice blog by Jake! Which reminds me...
Does anyone remember the blog of the F1 backpacker going to all the races? Can someone share where her blog is?
Mr C mentioned it yesterday, so the link will be in the comments somewhere...
*hunts down*
Here you go Journeyer
http://backpackersguidetof1.vox.com/
this is the oddest podium photo i have ever seen. They all look very concerned. Perhaps Nick Fry fell off the side.
rubens looks terrified!
those trophies were very pointy....
I enjoyed that posting too!
I am realising more and more that I prefer individual bloggers post more to the prepared articles, where the headings in particular, are misleading like the Rubens article discussed in this thread.
I think this is one reason I am really enjoying F1 in 2009. We have blogs like those from Joe, James and Jake, all of which give little behind the scenes snippets of paddock life and candid photos of things you'd never see elsewhere. Then theres all the 'inside the paddock' tweeters as well who share little moments as they happen, like Fisichella tripping up the stairs or which motorhome is playing which songs. I love this more human side of F1.
I must say that I do not really get what the teams are making all the fuss about. They say that the budget capped cars will be 1 -1.5 faster than the cars of the unlimited spenders. So what is the point spending all that money anyway. {Comment #64}
Because the detail of the regulations means that it is impossible for any team to comply with the budget cap. Only a team that doesn't realise it will need foreknowledge of its entire "key" staff and supplier arrangements 12 months in advance, total knowledge of its spending at least 2, if not 3 months in advance and requires a level of scrutiny that some of the teams may be legally prevented from agreeing to. It would also be very easy for the FIA to manipulate the championship to save/condemn teams if they get into trouble.
The FIA isn't advertising any of these downsides, so the teams that sign up to the cap will effectively have been duped. Many of the teams sense something is seriously wrong with the cap but they aren't quite sure what because they've not been concentrating on the flaws in what's already been provided. As a result, they're using the default argument of competitiveness even though it's not a particularly strong argument. The likelihood that £40m would just about get teams to the grid with a car that could get the basics of the fundamental regulations right (and thus unable to do anything of note with the additional freedoms) won't stop it because it is the vague sense of wrong that drives this, not the competitiveness argument per se.
What these teams need to do is look more closely at the obligations of the cost cap, point out the blatant problems to the FIA and get them fixed. Since there is no way they can be fixed in two weeks, the cap would have to be scrapped.
Granted, we'd probably lose a couple of new teams this way, but the main fault of that is the lack of any serious bridging formula for teams between the junior series and F1, not the presence or absence of a budget cap.
Exactly - TBH I am also looking at the trusted bloggers more than the news sites for just that little bit extra and in the case of JA and Joe, a little bit of insider info...
“We already pulled out once because we did not have the resources to continue. Even if we had $60 million to spend we would have to start from scratch again. {Comment #85}
This is interesting. Here we have a team that effectively can't join because of the budget cap because the set-up costs of becoming a F1-level constructor are more than $40m or even $60m. Granted, the probability of getting $60m in this climate is not especially high, but it does mean that any new team that hasn't spread its costs like USGPE/USF1 has will not be able to be a capped team in their first year unless they are prepared to cheat.
Never thought of it that way. Well they managed to scrap the medals system so why not a budget cap?
I think you've read that incorrectly. They ran out of money and they had to stop. Now they are saying that they have no money and would not be able to catch up because they have no resources or experience with these rules and regs...
In fact, only a few of them don’t have automatic sliding glass doors and I made a right twerp of myself when I expected Force India’s door to gracefully slide to the right… it didn’t {Comment #92}
Considering the Force India motorhome is one of the newest ones and Vijay is not exactly short of a few rupees, that surprises me! Good on Jake to share the moment and add a bit of reality to the paddock. He's done a good job all season and being occasionally self-deprecating helps that too.
Whoever made the decision to put Jake in as main presenter was absolutely inspired.
I think you’ve read that incorrectly. They ran out of money and they had to stop. Now they are saying that they have no money and would not be able to catch up because they have no resources or experience with these rules and regs… {Comment #109}
Your point that the experience level or lack thereof Super Aguri has with the 2009 regulations would increase the costs through trial and error (it would also flatten the performance improvement curve, which would impact on sponsor acquisition later). Unfortunately, it makes it even more likely that no new team will be able to get into F1 as a capped team unless it spreads the costs out over multiple years.
Never thought of it that way. Well they managed to scrap the medals system so why not a budget cap? {Comment #108}
Because the FIA is getting increasingly fed up of FOTA and CVC gently eroding its powers. It wants to be in sole charge of F1 (at least from a regulatory perspective), but to have that the FIA must have a certain level of control over the surrounding environment. While FOTA gets its own way, this level of control cannot happen.
In other words, there's no good reason why the budget cap can be scrapped, but the FIA won't see it that way.
Quick question: is the video from the panel show put up on the web site?
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/at-the-airport-again/#comment-990
Great post from Joe - loving the farmyard analogy!
It should be coming soon, yup.
Cool, where abouts are the links?
It'll appear here once up:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/05/10/live-were-low-on-fuel-too/
Afternoon, Christine :)
Afternoon.
How are we all?
Another wasted morning in the office for me.
Thanks Christine, I'm still learning the site.
Good thanks ;) Back to the servers for you then?
Hey, sounds like my day
No probs. It would usually be up by now, but we are running behind this weekend.
Howdy.
Just got home so I can actually do some work.
Although - one good thing at the office was Pizza for breakfast. Someone brought in a load of fresh pizzas - I have no idea where from but they were still hot.
They say breakfast is the most important meal of the day... :D
Are you feeling better today?
Better than when?
Umm didn't you have a bit of a cold still?
Oh yea, not much really. Been fine for a few days now. Thank you :)
"silly moos" Gavin?
Hey all, how is everyone?
I've just got home and i'm shattered, being ill when having exams isn't fun :(
what's everyone been up to this morning?
Ah. It's something my Mum used to say when I was a kid - it just means you did something silly ;)
I thought it fit with the cow analogy...
Hey Lou, hope it went well!
Gave me a laugh
being ill when having exams isn’t fun Comment #131}
Sorry to hear that, lou. Hope it gets better soon and you get good results in your exams anyway.
Just watching a replay from the gp. Much better onthe big tv and nor the Internet stream. Hamilton did well to recover from last at the start. Bourdais had a shocker at that second turn. And I still *hate* those small rear wings.
*waves* - afternoon guys :D
My driving instructor has suggested a date for me to book a driving test - eeeeek!! Gonna take a look now...
Oooh, how exciting! Better hide the blowtorch!
Aww. What subject was it today? How did it go?
Yay, another one who hasn't been brainwashed by the fugly cars yet :)
what’s everyone been up to this morning? {Comment #131}
Keeping up to date with what's happening in F1 and looking in vain for the pre-race build-up for the race on iPlayer (I could have sworn it was on there last night...)
Yeah. Couldn't they have got rid of the winglets and kept the wings? Sigh
My driving instructor has suggested a date for me to book a driving test - eeeeek!! {Comment #137}
I'm sure your instructor wouldn't have done that unless you are good enough to pass the test. Good luck for when it happens :)
I guess it doens't help that the fugly cars don't work like they were promised to...
I hate the iPhone predictive text, it keeps changing my words!
i think it went alright. it seemed slightly easier than any of the mocks we've done so that's encouraging. I had to go through all the steps of getting checked out by the school nurse afterwards and filling in forms because the examiner thought i looked too ill or something. so they are applying for special consideration.
Oh man... hope you're ok :/
At least it's out of the way now and you can try feel better at home though.
i'll be fine :D i'm just happy to be home and in comfy cloths rather than my suit. time to make some lunch and get on with some revision i think. speak to you all later! x
Well... it's all booked. 10:22 on Thursday 18th June is when I'll be taking my driving test. £62!!
Thats brave, telling everyone. You'll have to pass now! Good luck
I say bring it on! Might as well look at it with a positive attitude :D
It's both a blessing and a curse...
Don't go watching Webber and Alonso before your test now
day 1 of sidepodwithdrawal: its 10pm. I've had a cup of tea, a nice warm bath, and put fresh sheets on the bed. Now I am turning in for the night. Day 1 = success. Night all!
Well done sir! You never feel 100% ready, but trust me, you are!
Commenting about sidepodwithdrawal on sidepodcast seems rather odd, don't you think? :D
Since Amy's asleep already, can anyone tell me what her sidepodwithdrawal is about? :)
Lack of sleep? It's not easy being in a completly different time zone
Awww... :(
I'll say - I'm just 2 hours behind your timezone. :D
Don't worry, Gavin, Amy will be all right. Just give her time to recover. :)
Just a guess. I don't even try to keep up
You could say that Red Bull were faster in China and Bahrain. Even Ross and Jenson say that the only reason they beat RBR & DerSeb in Bahrain was some good strategy.
And apparently they were faster yesterday but spent too much time stuck behind Massa...
That doesn't bode well for them for Monaco. Whoever isn't on pole between Button and Vettel will probably be in trouble...
Webber is my pick for Monaco, he has form there....
I'm picking Vettel - I remember him doing well there last year; he scored his first points of 2008 there with a fine 6th in the STR.
Will be an interesting quali !
I should've sold Glock yesterday - lost a bit of money not doing so. Oh well.
Monaco is a place to roll the dice. And in the spirit of Monaco, I'm taking a big(-ish) gamble: drop Kubica (who's doing poorly) and Glock (who's not doing that poorly) for Webber (on form now, but bad luck is never far away) and Sutil (does well at Monaco, but has been a bad luck magnet of late).
This will either propel me into the Top 100, or drop me to the bottom of the Top 200. Here goes.
Now Red Bull are threatening to pull out.
FOTA seem to be sticking together... 8O
Franck's gonna be on TV!
http://iheartfranck.com/2009/05/11/tune-in-to-franck/
Just got back from a weekend away. Did I miss anything? :)
Um, I think the only answer to that can be yes!
I've seen 10 seconds of crashes, and 10 seconds of Button in front of everybody. Is that a good summary? And I was with passionate Ferrari fans and I hate missing opportunities to talk about Ferrari this year. On the bright side I was near a place called Monza...
Pretty much. Digest coming out later today ;)
Groovy :)
I'm getting network time issues when i update F1minute through itunes. my access to internet generally seems okay. maybe just temporary - i'll let you know.
slicehost are having server issues. they're looking into it. it's been down 3 times in the past 24h.
Yuck!!
Just tried a cola variety of an unnamed brand energy drink and it was vile! Very icky and disappointing :(
Thanks for the update and sorry for the issues :(
Told ya!
davidson agrees with lukeh, says steven roy is spouting rubbish:
http://www.pumamotorsport.com/2009/05/dont-believe-the-conspiracy-theories-jenson-won-fair-and-square/
...ok, he didn't really, but i like to think he was tuning in last night while waiting for a plane or something.
busy day today, no time to comment, do chat amongst yourselves. replay video from last night is up for all you impatient people who now judge us on amy's standards.
;)
bye.
Yes! I keep trying to tell Dank he is wrong but he doesn't believe me.
i tried some of the unnamed brand energy drink the other day for the first time, it didn't taste as bad as i thought it would. i was pleasantly surprised.
Yeah he said the same on CFF1 too...
I dont mind the normal one but when I left the shop (assignment's make me hungry and thirsty, dont ask :P) i realised it was cola but I hasn't tried before, so I thought 'eh. why not'
It now resides in the next bin I saw. :)
Their normal drink took me a while to get used to, and it's not something I would drink for pleasure, but it does the job.
The cola is yeugh and everyone knows it ('cept Dank).
yay that Ant doesn't think they were favouring Jenson either. i (heart) Davidson... *cough* i mean Davidsons awesome :)
Have always liked that ant fella'
;)
doesn't he know you're the f1 guru round these parts? ;)
I guess I don't hold the same guru status on carbonated beverages. Only a matter of time though.
Afternoon all. Today was my first day without haveing to get up early for exam revision, work, lectures or F1 races in quite a few months. Had a very nice lie in. Got up at 2:30!
So, how are we all?
All unbranded energy drink products are vile. This also applies to supermarket imitations.
f1 minute is back, slicehost.com rule, that is all.
Cool.
Sacrilege! Without a certain unnamed energy drink there would be no SPC! Think on, my friend ;)
I'll be honest, I feel sick after drinking it.
However true that may be, I still hate the drink. Maybe it's because of a friend of mine at school used to drink so much of it. Really did him no good what so ever.
Of course it didn't. It's full of sugar and chemicals and secret magical ingredients. Moderation is the key.
sidepodspace update
The astronauts are currently being loaded on to the space shutle Atlantis. Live video at http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
Time to launch is 3 hours 15 minutes
Really really no delay?
I have full confidence NASA will find a brand new problem to screw it up.
The thing I find reall interesting is they have another shuttle on th adjacent pad in case they have to rescue these astronauts. What are the chances of it going first time?
I am not here yet honest but a thought just struck me. If Amy is borg does that mean sidepodcast will be assimilated?
Too much Dr Who eh?
Yeah I find the back up system a little odd - they cannot get a shuttle to go sometimes for 2 weeks when there is no urgency. If there was a problem on the other one, or the ISS, how long would it take?
thanks for the headsup - i've lost track of the schedule.
@me: The server issues I reported 2 hours ago have resolved themselves. iTunes with F1minute.com working just fine now.
Borg is Star Trek not Dr Who
They confused us all by moving the launch up a day and then not delaying it.
not yet :)
that explains why didn't know what Borg was :) lol
Once Amy exercises her full powere you will know all about the Borg. :D
NASA forecasting 90% chance of no weather problems
Shuttle launch: 2 hours 17 minutes (give or take) if it all goes okay. at 2 minutes past the hour.
and 1% chance of an animal clinging on to the side like last time.
Schedule says 1 minute past
yeah but there'll be a hold ;)
This is 126th shuttle mission and two have had bats attached. One had a turkey vulture fly into it while it was on the pad.
Why would they do that? Why not on the hour?
They have to take off at the right time in relation to the orbit of hubble
Well Hubble should be on the hour too. It's not right otherwise.
Maybe Amy can adjust gravity so that the shuttle and the ISS are always in the right position on the hour.
Anyone seen Invasion with Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig? The space shuttle brings back a nasty virus...if that happens...aah. never mind...it probably won't.
You do realise that is French Eurosport?
Isn't Davidson the reserve driver though?
So yeah, miss anything big today?
sssshh!!! :P
Great post by Joe
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/at-the-airport-again/#comment-998
sidepodspace update
1 hour 40 minutes till launch
Bonjour! :D
It's being shown live on the Discovery channel at 6:30 tonight too - which is very unusual.
they must be confident that it's going ahead. ;)
I see on autosport that Mateschitz is now syaing that he won't enter F1 if their is a two tier system. Apologies if this has been mentioned before.
They sound very confident so far although the commentator has sais it WILL launch on time so hopefully he does not have the Murray Walker touch.
Yup - it's been mentioned. So that's Ferrari, Red Bull/Toro Rosso, Williams, BMW, Renault, Toyota, and Brawn who have all publicly said no to two-tier F1. That leaves Force India, and McLaren (who won't talk for obvious reasons).
FOTA is united - and Max knows it. What's his Plan B?
Cool. I'd love to see a live shuttle on TV in decent quality, and not online. CNN.com is showing it (under live video) too if you have issues taking the feed of either yahoo or NASA.
BBC News apparently always shows the launches too.
Countdown is T-20 minutes and holding. Hold is for 10 minutes. There is another planned hold which I think is at T-9 minutes ish
I wish they would stop having launches and landings on days when I have other stuff to do. I have to leave about 5 minutes after the launch. I should go before it but I guess I am going to be late.
I thought the launch wasn't for another hour-plus?
The numbers I gave are th official countdown which has holds at various times. The launch time has not changed. I was just explaining for the benefit of anyone wondering why the countdown clock said 20 minutes. Launch is in 1 hour 5 minutes
Ohhh... Why do they have holds? Why don't they just have a non-stop countdown to the actual launch time?
Ice crews have returned to the pad to examine some ice at the base of the SRB or external tank. Ice is normal due to the venting of fuel gases and visits by the ice crew are normal. No report yet as to their thoughts
Details here http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/clocks_explainer.html
The ice crew are checking ice formation at the liquid hydrogen umbilical. They look fairly relaxed but no comment yet.
For anyone watching the vid the ice crew you see ar standing next to one of the solid rocket boosters. They look a lot bigger when there are people next to them.
T- 20 minutes and counting
Countdown restarted :D
I've just realised why I'm been so grouchy today.
Not had any coffee yet!
Video link, folks?
Nasa website reporting good weather at the moron Trans-Atlantic abort site.
Who called a town? Moron?
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
Needs RealPlayer, Steven Roy?
Direct link to the streaming file:
http://www.nasa.gov/55644main_NASATV_Windows.asx
Yay! Thanks, Flibster.
On the right of the screen there is a tab 'Other viewing option' Point your mouse at that and don't click. It will give you other viewers. There is a M'soft one that is really good full screen
If you hear any radio calls
CDR - commander
PLT - pilot
MS1to MS5 - Mission specialist 1to 5
Isn't it just quicker to say pilot?
But that isn't a TLA
T- 9 minutes and holding
Launch in 48 minutes
Course not. Silly me.
you're spot on there! They were some great shots of them taking photos.
30th launch for Atlantis?
Impressive.
Of course in NASA language a TLA is a trans-atlantic abort site
3700mph? Must have KERS
but it's pronounced something like "Moroon"...
my favourite placenames are shown here (caution language may offend so am i allowed to post?)
NASA put the emphasis on the second syllable so moRON
here is the link i meant to post
They appear to be.. *clunk*
Dropping the microphones?
They are not exactly professional. During the first launch we watched on here I did say sidepodcast could do it better
29 minutes left in the T-9minute hold
Launch in 37 minutes
They must be really bad then.
At least they are not lipsynching :)
Any chance we can get the commentators for the space shuttle launch and F1 switched? "Go GO Go for shuttle launch Atlantis rapidly pooling away from the tower..." and each F1 race could start with "The cars moving gently past the tower and this the 5th race here in Barcelona...." maybe James Allen could do a guest spot?
Red button option?
Fishing for compliments on sidepodcast? You really are optimistic
Let's just say NASA's budget would probably go somewhere else.
DON'T PRESS THE RED BUTTON. NASA's red button is very different
Hi, I don't have access to the NASA TV feed, so you're my eyes out there!
I thinki their broadcast budget is a bit higher than sidepodcast's
:D
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
even so, it would go to the hundreds of cameras, not the voices behind them. :D
All non-essential personnel have cleared the pad
can you get any feeds? there are feeds on yahoo and CNN if you can.
there are also low bandwidth audio options if you want to listen to the audio? eg 56k i think? i can post links if you need
Thanks! But no, I should have explained myself better: I'm at work, most of the feed doesn't work (and I should be working... :-) )
this site has links to a few different camera and the weather stream even. and i think it's got the low bandwidth audio if you need it.
No worries. Here at sidepodcast as soon as someone says they have no feed we feel the need to help out :) The launch is at 1 minute and 56 seconds past the hour - so if you've got 2 minutes turn on then :)
This is history. The last day ever that you will be able to see two shuttles on adjacent pads at the same time
Pandas on BBC1
BBC1 Scotland
I just realised that I have totally tuned out what this guy is saying. If I can't be bothered to listen to him how is anyone new to this stuff going to
NASA genius boffin: "visible light - the light you can see with your eye"
NASA need to send all these people on the Jackie Stewart public speaking course
Kinda like Legard, then? :D
Um... right... then.
NASA TV launch commentators are like Legard and Allen.
It's visible....so you can see it. That is really going to enthuse the next generation
I know all about lights you can see with your eyes. Just ask Mr C.
I work in science and we have specifically trained "Science Communicators" but I think the program is a little different to the NASA program. To be fair I did take the isolated quote from the boffin probably out of context - he was setting up for a discussion about infrared light, but i'd stopped listening as well because he was taking an interesting topic and talking about it like you were discussing ear wax removal...
You mean you can still see?
What's this nasa malarky about then??
Actually, that's true. My specialist knowledge is more about lights you can see for a moment and then you will never see again.
20 minutes to go
Sounds like they have plugged the mic into the wrong hole
I am a trained science communicator! 25% of my degree!
was the audio really low volume on NASA and did they just turn it up?
Ice crew says go
plugged it into the wrong hole I think
you have your career lined up for you, although shuttle launches left is about 9 i think. what's your other 75%? if it's rocket science, you should be sweet :)
square peg, round hole....
WOOHOO!!
First test launch of the new Ares vehicle is scheduled for June so there is a future
Stop muttering woman
it's quite compelling, not seen a launch for years, thanks Steven and Flibster for the link
Yeah, I have that picture :-)
Maybe without sound, there is nobody else in the office...
Geology! Hmmm... But I did do a planetary module which was awesome, I take it there is a shuttle launch?! Woot for space exploration!
That's the attitude
:) They're talking about a cloud build up north of the launch pad. no dramas now, but they're keeping an eye on it.
It's like racing you start of with the launch then you want to see Hubble capture then 5 consecutive days of spacewalking then the landing. And before you know it you have lost two weeks
When we got new computers last year we lost the ability to play sound without headphones.
Did two MLAs just answer at the same time?
ALL SYSTEMS GO !
All systems go for launch
Coming out of the hold on schedule in 4 minutes unless something goes wrong
Are you free in 2015? we could get you to Mars that year? Not too sure after that though...you might be stuck there. But you'd be working :)
This is for the benefit of the people who sign off NASA's budget
gee Scooter sounds quite emphatic after all the delays "let's get Atlantis launched".
Have to go to the moon for a while first
This is like wathcing a stream for free practise. Live timing is ahead of the video
pity there are no scale bars on that picture
Seriously no delay yet?
stop it ;)
It is going to go a day ahead of schedule.
Bang on time at the moment.
Things can't happen ahead of schedule. They just can't. It shakes my whole faith in humanity.
It looks like Edinburgh Zoo are goingto get two pandas
people applaud! awesome :)
i just found myself counting down with them and clicked the pen like it was controlling the 9 minute clock...
:D
Retracting crew access arm
You've still got some ;) I lose some everytime Minardi DNA gets a mention...
My attitude collided with our network guys... No access to MMS streams trough the proxy :-(
On discovery - some pilock....
I'll stick with the NASA feed atm
Just fund out that I don't have to go out immediately after launch
auxiliary power unit start
so I guess that rules out CNN.com as well
you can look at pictures here
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/
checking out rudder and steering controls
There goes the flight control checks and the engine gimbling
thanks
Try http://live.twit.tv/ Leo covered the last launch live
so you can watch the 10 different replays from different angles :)
anyone know if it's a night time landing scheduled? i never look until after the thing takes off? night time is cool because they show the infrared head up display system from on board.
Main engines in start position
Gimbling?
I can watch more than 90 seconds of flight
Gimbals are like ball and socket joints so they can point the engines to steer them
Rotating the engines on theit gimble joints.
I wonder if the people on the lake shore will feel the heat of those boosters when it takes off
Last minute - no birds on flight path
I need food but still here.
1 minute to launch. no birds in the flight path :)
They will feel the ground shake
And liftoff!
hi all, just joined the feed in time, thanks :-)
Atlantis has control
Up up and away! *on discovery....*
going to full screen. back in a few minutes...
http://www.nasa.gov/55644main_NASATV_Windows.asx
So long as we get past 'go for throttle up' I am happy
cool
Online feed is about a minute behind.
The on board camera is on the external fuel tank
you're not the only one that gets nervous at +72:(
7 miles up!
Go Atlantis!
18 miles up alread 2500 mph
I panic every time since
18 miles up - 23 miles downrange
2300mph!
separation of mini fuel thingies
SRBs dumped
*waves bye to the SRB's*
I knew you were a scientist
i think it's because we've seen that footage so many times. it's a Pavlovian response...
They can make Spain even if they lose an engine now
:) still got the big whatsamagig doobywhacker to go.
One engine Moron will mean they can make Spain on one engine
They ain't going back to Florida now.
Spain or space only
Tough life.
65 miles up 6500mph. They have KERS
MECO main engine cut off
246 miles in 5 minutes!
6500mph
Banjul in the Gambia. Since when was Gambia an option?
Can't go to spain now.
Any long runway is an option if the manure hits the air moving device..
They can make orbit on one engine now
Normally there are two in Spain and one in France plus two in USA
Maybe it's the backup backup backup? I've never heard mention of it.
Lost video.
They are not on a normal ISS trajectory today
MECO confirmed
Their trajectory is spot on. No need to use orbital manouvring system
Wow - a NASA liftoff where nothing's gone wrong. Impressive.
I still don't understand how with all the thousands of satellites there are up there they can't bounce a video signal off one
main engine cut off.
It wasn't supposed to go till tomorrow. It is ahead of schedule
they're all busy relaying Oprah around the world.
"Orbit, adjust, manouver" is that the space version of Mirror, Signal, Manouver??
If they see someone in their mirror they are in trouble
Is that the coverage finished?
THe shuttle is die to land on May 22nd at 11:41am EDT so no night time landing. Unless there are problems
I assume they will go on board but there is not much to see until they reach Hubble on Wednesday I think.
On Freeview, yes. On NASA TV, no.
Will be sleeping now. Wow, didn't see Amy all night (or afternoon where you are). Impressive. She'll be fighting fit again in the morning.
Good night, everyone. :)
Sleep well :D
:D
Good night Journeyer.
I am sure when Amy sleeps itwill be for about 20 hours
Before I go: From JA's latest post:
I didn't know Borg sleeps for 20 hours. :P Night. :)
They plug into their alcove and re-generate. Just like sleep except they do it standing up
I am not happy about it.
i think this may be the end of the univers
That was great, haven't seen a live launch before. Thanks to Christine for the reminder on Twitter and to Steven for the vid link.
For anyone who is suitably obsessed there is more information on this mission than any of us could ever need by clicking on 'Press Kit' at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/news/index.html
Just on the energy drink thing earlier.... I tried Monster yesterday. It is a lot nicer to drink than the un-named one but it comes in a bigger can so there is potential for overload... and Lukeh, you were warned :-)
The plan now is to rendezvous with Hubble tomorow.
Dock and capture Wednesday.
Spacewalks every day from Thursday till Monday.
Release Hubble Tuesday
Crew day off Wednesday
Do boring stuff Thursday - Monaco FP is on Thursday
Land Friday when we have no free practise.
They went a day early to suit sidepodcast
I picked up the wrong one, it's a price I must pay for my stupidity. ;)
I'm back from doing other stuff. Space launch any good?
I've wondered, why do they do the Monaco FP on a Thursday and not Friday?
I (heart) Nasa
Oh my god, you're right - that works out so good!! As the friday before Monaco I have 4 hours of exams. Thank you, you lovely little place!
Today once they get to orbit th only things on the schedule are
Open the payload bay doors - These are radiators for cooling. They use an insane amount of water all the time they are closed
Deploy the Ku band antenna
Activate the shuttle robotic arm
Then downlink the video from the on-board cameras
So nothing remotely exciting
There is a dinner on the Friday that it is compulsory for the drivers to attend.
Ah right. Wasn't aware of that.
They are now going to have a short burn of th orbital manouvring thrusters to correct the orbit. Perfectly normal
I though it was to avoid 'closing' the city three days in a row
That can't be the reason surely? Dinners will be in the evening?
How it was in Singapur?
Well, here's a sick rep for me today :( :
Been sick 4 times
Had a splitting headache
Every muscle in my body has hurt, making it difficult to move
But I've taken some Anadin, just about to take some more, had a small nap and I'm feeling a bit better :) My muscles no longer ache as bad and the headache has died down substantially. Now just sipping some Volvic Touch of Fruit. :)
That was always the reason I heard
Ouch... sounds rough. Hope you feel better soon!
Nasty stuff there mate. You get some good rest and get well soon mate.
I reckon it's just one of those 48 hour bugs. I'll take tomorrow off as well to recover properly and I should be OK to go back in Wednesday. :)
Boooo! Hope you get better soon!
Don't misjudge it. Not great when you feel unwell at school or work
Thanks guys :)
Just reading some shuttle history. They aborted one launch at T-4 seconds. I thought by that stage they were committed
Others have stopped a T-3 seconds
Used to be to 'give the residents a break' or something like that. There was no track action at all on Friday. This changed about 3 or 4 years ago when GP2 and other things ran qualifying Friday morning.
Any reasons why?
Thats cutting it pretty fine
Anything before solid booster ignition can be aborted. Once the solid rockets are on, they're on...
i'm pretty sure i saw this one. 1999/2000? i felt so ripped off i cannot begin to think how they felt.
off home now (was at work - half working)
Hope you get better soon and remember the 5 Pints of Ribena
Just closed the thing I was reading. Engine valve faults and the like. Apparently Endeavour's first launch got to T-1.9 seconds
It tastes like cola soaked up into a moudly dishcloth and then drained into an old running shoe added with toilet cleaner!
Red Bull Cola I assume ;)
They capture Hubble early afternoon Wendesday. That was the info I was trying to find out.
Early afternoon EDT means some time after 5pm UK
Spot on my friend, spot on
OMS 2 burn good
Yay! Finally watching the Forum!
Wow. Now thats cutting it close
Ooh, I might just take a peek at it too.
I don't know if this has been posted but: Ohhhh dear....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8043243.stm
I'd been ignoring that...
Read the article, not the headline.
v.disappointed in the bbc :(
scott, did you get that tweet earlier, btw?
I suppose even the best of seervices has to have an off day, they have two headlines in that article that are totally wrong and just to grab attention (look under the Ross Brawn video, completely not what he says at all but headline to grab attention)
Nope, I've been ill all day. :( Will look now :)
there is no oh dear about it to me. in fact it just proves to me even more that it was not the team favouring Jenson yesterday as i thought, and just strategy. it's just a stupid title for a news post. Rubens is not leaving as the team is not favouring Jenson.
BBC did a GMM???
agreed.
they did.
*shakes fist at various places*
:D
STS 41 1984 T-4 seconds - sluggish valve in main engine 3
STS 51 1985 T-3 seconds - coolant valve main engine 2
STS 55 1993 T-3 seconds - oxidiser purge problem main engine 2
STS 61 1993 T-3 seconds - hydrogen flow sensor main engine 2
STS 68 1994 T-1.9 seconds - high oxidiser temp main engine 3
BBC are having an off few days, pretty much insulted my local rugby league team by saying that St Helens 'had a bye into the next round'
:D
r.g. have ya checked drop.io today?
Nooooo, they are at the smiling stage. I'm doooooooomed now :(
Maybe timo just wanted to try on some new shoes?
Which could be worrying...
Damn you, BBC!
Timo's not a girl. Oh no he's not.
I assume Jackie is responsible for the new level on sidepodaddiction.
I love it.
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Stages+of+a+Sidepodaddiction
The last sentence is brilliant :D
yeah. does it give you any ideas steven? ;)
Houston we have a problem. I decided to check what is on TV on Saturday.
Steven, how in all the world are you "stage 3ish" ??
Eurovision. You're going to make me live comment it aren't you.
Yep. It means I don't need a blog unless I am Borg
Oh my god, is it the Eurovision this weekend?!
But no Terry Wogan..... :(
Oh man, that was so funny last year!
Read 7.6 on the stages
Ah but by trying to decieve people in that way you are on 7.6
I love watching Newcastle matches, their defence is really amusing :)
I was about ready to celebrate that when I saw they'd replaced him with Graham Norton
I am not deceiving people. That is only the opinion of whoever wrote that.
I really get a kick out of it in the morning :D
you need a podcast?
:D
It's like replacing Rubens with Sato for me. You're still gonna watch but it's just gonna be car crash tele. But then again, it IS the eurovision so it'll be car crash tele whoever presents it...
You've gotta love the whole cheesiness from it, and how serious Britain seems to take it musically. I remember a few years back, lithuania's entry being 5 guys screaming 'WE ARE THE WINNERS OF EUROVISION' - best entry ever!
So they're finished then?
I am probably on enough podcasts as it is. I was on two on Sunday
For me it's like replacing De Cesaris with Piquet Jr.
Just kicked off, 5 mins in, and Boro are 1-0, Newcastle have hit the bar, and it's end to end stuff!
Yeah Denmark takes it too seriously too. France and Spain had some mega funny entries last year!
Boro scored? Blimey!
I did like that one, completely took the mickey :-)
And there was that guy in the tin foil suit.... just crazy.
Less extravagant car crashes? Surely the other way round
Don't remember if I watched it last year. I guess this means I need to invest in some wine.
OMG - France's entry was amazing. I thought they just got a random guy off the street and chucked him on a golf cart!
Possibly. Best I could do speed-commenting.
You expected Newcastle to win?
8 minutes in, 1-1...!
In other news, complaints and bemusement expressed here over Indy's qual system is being echoed by IndyCar fans who just want them to get on with it..
No, but Boro aren't exactly top class either? Their coach is completely hopeless!
I say that and they score
hahaha, gutting
Aren't we cheering for Boro because it's Rob Smedley's team?
I don't watch anything which ends up in
Latvia 222
UK 2
Time to disappear again because somehow 8pm happened while I wasn't looking. Must do some accounts homework... and yet, double-Heroes on BBC2 shortly..
You have to wonder how much drink was consumed while IMS persuaded people to spend a month driving round one track. And to think we complain about the time teams spend in Barcelona
To be fair, we do enter some really awful entries even for eurovision
RG upsetting Christine again?
Although I say that, the eastern bloc voting is atrociously unfair on anyone else.
oh dear, another one sucked in by Heroes :(
Better than a lot of other tripe on telly.
We really do. Its painful viewing at times like, "Do they have to represent the UK, why couldn't they be Norwegian?"
They're too scared to vote for anyone else otherwise they might get invaded!
Post-race erm post-launch press conference on NASA TV in a couple of minutes.
That's the Americans. Make the race a festival and spend a whole month there!
I want Boro to win as much as anyone here.
Can any of these people speak?
fair point. My TV watching habits echoi the name of your blog :(
It's fair to say I couldn't care less.
NASA man says everything went fabby doo
Presumably because races were longer in 1911 they didn't bat an eyelid. Then there were so many entries they needed enough track time.
These days it only helps fans consume beer in local establishments..
Unlike the Eurovision! :D
Any Brawn haters should download the Force India Podcast, it's really good insight
TBH neither can I. Can't feel for either team tonight, they're both a little bit Piquet...
Oooh look forward to that - they never pull their punches in the FIF1 podcast!!!
I want mine to, too.. not enough hours in a day..
Brawn's find it difficult to ger KERS fitted to the car:
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45852&PO=45852
I know they have to look at installing it and there may be some benefit later in the season but they would be insane to put it in in the near future unless they lose performance compared to the others.
If JB's managed to win 4 races out 5 without it, I agree. They would need a monumental drop in form to really consider it. But right now, it's not necessary.
Agreed. It's only good for starts and blocking IMO :(
Anyone remember the ditty by one of the Balkan nations from a few years ago? It was called 'Grandma Beats The Drum' or something like that, and the band did indeed have a little old lady in a bathchair on stage with them. Towards the end she jumped out of it and started banging a huge drum. Surreal...
And if it starts having prblems and eventually fails, you're screwed having to carry around that extra weight and not using the system because it's broke.
Last year's Spanish guy with the plastic guitar was pretty damn funny!
Our entry from a couple of years ago was a little disturbing. "Would you like something to suck on for landing, sir?" - I can't tell how wrong that line is on so many levels.
there are Brawn haters?!
Is it wrong to have enjoyed last years Irish entry?
I cannot believe so many people who I thout were intelligent and rational know so much about Eurovision. Why?
There are haters of every team, some have a larger following than others
Who could hate Brawn?! Oh wait, that's right - Flavio.
Never seen or heard anyone who hate the team. Some of us ar less than enthusiastic about the man himself given his history
Oh, I nearly fell off my chair. Mind you, I was half a bottle of wine and at least two pints in...
There's always someone who hates something. Aristotle said that, I'm sure.
Thats the great thing about the Eurovision though - you can sit there watching sometimes with no other expression except O_O at whats unveiling before your eyes!
My wife and one of her cronies once hosted a Eurovision party with food/drinks from each nation.
I love that guy in the NASA press conference. They know exactly what they are going to do and exactly how long it will take. Hubble has been flying around in space for a few years. Doing stuff in a big swimming pool is not the same as foing it in space to something that has been there for years.
So if you get drunk it is good?
i know, it just took me by surprise that after just 5 races a team can be hated. But then again i'm really biased :D
F1 fans be fickle? naaaaaaah!!! ;)
Anyone who wins will be hated by someone but I haven't seen anything yet that I would call hate.
Look at Lewis Hamilton though to see how hate builds quickly. Button's father will be being criticised for always being there before much longer even though he has been there for years
yeah i take you're point with the Lewis thing..hehe i look forward to it ;)
People hate teams for being good.
At least AntHam has better taste in shirts! But then again, John Button doesn't have a stare that feels like he's trying to take your soul.
NASA man
All tools are tethered to stop them floating away and becoming space debris.
Only if someone remembers to tether them inside the bag
JB senior wears a pink shirt every single race weekend, has done for ages i believe. He believes that it's good luck for Jenson. So it's not poor taste, it's superstition lol.
FakePiquetJr - "Good news, Renault have found a problem with the car thats affecting my concentration, looks like the DVD player will have to go."
:D
I wonder if because FOM didn't show AntHam staring into our souls this weekend, that's the reason LewHam was off this weekend. ;)
So DC starts wearing pink shirts when he retires, he must be biting his tongue off camera if he's having any luck now :D
I don't think that excuse would work with my missus!
forgot to say, mike doodson thinks piquet snr. keeps turning up at races cause he knows where all the bodies are buried and:
"Nelson Jr may be struggling a bit at Renault, but I happen to believe that he will last out a lot longer there than his critics might imagine."
Booo!
Well I'm now laying in bed, sipping on my Volvic watching ashes to ashes. I'll probably go about 10-half 10 latest :)
Don't forget Piquet senior spent a lot of years as number one at Brabham when Bernie owned it and it was a small team. He also spent time at Beneton when Flavio was running it. You bet he knows where the bodies are buried.
Aww, those were the days, in bed before 11 :D
Yeah, but I have a good reason to be ;)
I have to agree tbh, unless he does a Montoya and crashes like a gazzillion races in a row, thne i cant see it happenig quickly
hehe i knows
Penske have done F1 before and are big enough to run parallel programs. I don't see Michael Andretti wanting to go anywhere near F1
god that goes back to the days of pre live commenting for me. well i suppose i only have myself to blame...
Will Power in F1 would = 5 pints of awesome! :D
Ah yes. Didn't it all kick off when Moreno dared to overtake him one day? Breach of contract!
good lord.
i have no answer to that :(
Just thught I'd mention it, it's the final race of the season tonight on BATracer, with 3 drivers going for the championship - Al grogan with 91 points, Scott Woodwiss with 89 and Lou with 88 - Scott's got pole as well, with Al 2nd but lou down in 12th... should be a very interesting end to the season... :)
Plus my teammate is 13th, directly behind Lou ;)
*cough* needless to say i'm hoping for a crash at the front at the start :P
What do you want to know?
:D tis alright. work has also been to blame :P i'm used to it now. tbh i think there have probably been a few early nights, but i now just wake up, however tired i am, at around 11.
Yes. Didn't work out to well when the out of favour Moreno was replaced by a barely known German though
Oh this current crisis in the context of the FISA/FOCA war? You must have a decent opinion on what is happening here?
Quite right too.
It's a bit different because then the teams were split. Ferrari, Renault, Alfa-Romeo etc aligned themselves with Balestre and FISA and the Cosworth brigade aligned themselves with Bernie and FOCA. It was pretty poisonous with teams boycotting races etc. The imola race where Pironi stole the win from Villeneuve that resulted in Gilles being killed at the next race was FISA only. Had the FOCA teams been there Ferrari may not have been leading and .....
The current dispute is a bit more civilised but the problem the teams have is FOTA is a very new organisation that is leaderless so everything is up for debate and vote whereas before Bernie lead and the FOCA teams followed so decisions and tactics could be made quickly. Now you have Briatore and the like leaking to the press.
In the end to me it looks like they either accept a budget cap or set up an alternative championship. You would think with all the expensive lawyers that when the teams signed up to commit to F1 till 2012 they would have had the contracts agreed in a way that they could not be bullied like this but Ferrari stitched the rest of the teams up for 30 pieces of silver. The problem now is that Ferrari is the weakest link.
There was a T shirt advertise widely at the time of the FISA FOCA war. It had the slogan FISA + FOCA = FIASCO. When FOTA was announced I asked someone what FIA + FOTA = The answer I got back was O FIAT
Oh yes, I remember him. Now, what was his name? Michael Bartels?
Thanks Steven - been waiting all day for that ;)
Something like that. Wonder what happened to him?
Just as well I don't have a blog or I would have been too busy eith that
Don't tell RG but Newcastle just took the lead
Meh
Good night all!
Night Gavin
What? How?
I blame NASA
Night!
He thinks tyres are spherical and he is their test driver. Hardly an intelligent independent opinion
he's seen the telemetry and you haven't?
he may have a lot to gain if rubens does hang up his helmet... like a race seat.
i'm siding with ant.
i'm not sure, i don't think brawn 'favour' either driver, but i'd quite like to see Ant in a race seat, see what he can do with a proper car
you're confusing what i'm saying aren't you?
no i get what you mean, my point was independent.
cool ;)
He was commenting on the radio. He may have scanned the telemetry after the event but he did not watch it real time.
Exactly so he is following the company line
sadly, that is still a hell of a lot more than you have.
twisting the knife could see rubens walk.
Evening all. Still discussing Brawn's favoritism or lack of it then?
Anyone mentioned this new Prism thingy from Mozilla?
nope. go on...
i can't wait for rbr to favour vettel over webber. newey was at mclaren when they asked dc to pull over for mika and now he's at rbr, will anyone care if it looks like vettel gets all the best strategies?
It's a new program that turns any web page into an application that sits on the dock - it used to be called WebRunner, but has just gone beta under the Prism name. An alternative to the Desktop Doohickey for anyone who doesn't want to install Adobe Air.
ahh cool. but presumably you have to install prism instead?
is it better than air? i may have to goo look...
sounds good, time to take a look!
Am I the only one who thinks that people are reading waay to much into this and are picking a story out of nothing?
We're an emotional bunch us Brawnies ;)
Like's the idea but that not in the RBR hand book you realise
but vettel is alot better than webber (generally), button and rubens are (generally) quite evenly matched..ish
Stirring it could see Ant walking
i know but they basically dont want to play those games till late season and then only if they realy have to it part of there family thingy team
just looking at prism. isn't it the same thing that chrome introduced last year, or am i missing something?
I guess so. Is it better than Air? No idea, but I think Prism is Open Source.
if it were later in the season, there would likely be less fuss. assuming there was a clear leader of course.
It's so sloooooooow for me.
No idea as I don't do Chrome.
mozilla made it, that goes with the territory :)
apart from the occasional crash ive never really had any problems with firefox, but any other product they make for me goes wrong like thunderbird or now this.
To be fair if it was an Microsoft/IE-related program I think it'd just fall out of the screen onto your lap breathing for air.
el reg say it's the same, but prism allows firefox extensions too.
my ff is 3x slower than safari, but i need the extensions so live with the lack of speed.
I am going to get some sleep now. Need after how rubbish I felt today. See you guys sometime tomorrow :) Night all
Hope you feel better buddy, night!
according to trusted reviews, prism might allow doohickey to update the task bar when new comments arrive.
best put it on the list.
see ya scott.
:D
iTunes have a new feature called "iTunes DJ" it appears to have just put my songs on shuffle...
i've used that once or twice. i didn't really understand it though, so i just went back to using genius or plan shuffle.
maybe an apple guru will explain all about it?
genius. apple genius.
it just seems like a shuffle but with a new screen, although i swear it says "to make a continuous piece of music"....well.....i know this is wrong, because Biffy Clyro then The Script then Chris Tomlin, then Kanye West and then Coldplay. do not go together
brilliant tweet from f1scoop:
"is wondering just what engine Williams is proposing to put on their entry from if Toyota decide not to enter by the deadline"
Would they go back to Cosworth? If not, Ferrari?
4 ferrari engined teams, not sure the other teams would agree
frank said he thought the cosworth was rubbish when they had it, and now the little talent that was there have all moved on. basically he suggested it would make a nice door stop.
it's likely that if toyota don't sign, neither will ferrari. will mercedes? and if not where does that leave brawn / force india.
the manufacturers have the power. lots and lots of power, so long as they stick together.
There's only 2 atm, compared to Mercedes's 3
iTunes DJ is just the new name for Party Shuffle - it chooses random songs from your library. You can also provide guest access for people to choose songs for you via an iPod Touch or iPhone running the Apple Remote app.
the other teams would consist of (i assume):
- williams
- brawn
- f1fi
- lola
- usgpe
- renault (maybe)
Mclaren?
oooh, you don't wanna do that, imagine what crass eurovision entries might be found...
mclaren cannot enter the budget capped championship this year. it's too big a cut, too soon. they've probably already broken the 2010 budget cap on r&d for next years car already.
Oh, yeah. Forgotten about that. I was thinking that Mercedes would want to stay for FIF1 and Brawn, which would ensure Mclaren stay as well.
Or the Teletubbies :D
For a while, at work they had a cd of random songs playing through the shop. Most were 80's songs, but we also had Teletubbies, Ghostbusters and Bob the Builder!
eeek. sorry apple genius. i always think it's something else cause they have the genius feature.
cool! :D thanks Andy :)
I think me has decided he doesn't like the word Guru ;)
;)
oh. lol.
Time for bed - it's been a long day. Night all.
night andy
night andy
Actually, all of the current teams (except Force India and McLaren) have said (implicitly or explicitly) that they won't sign up for F1 2010 if it stays as a two-tiered system. Add McLaren's 2010 spending and they probably won't join either.
So that means that if things stay as they are, all the current teams will leave F1 (and set up their own thing). Bernie won't stand by that (for sure!) and will drag Max back to sanity. FOTA may be a democracy (which isn't a good form of government in this sport), but its unity is its greatest strength.
The teams are all committed to F1 until 2012 so they can't walk away without being in breach of contract.
They're committed to Bernie, not to F1. So as long as Bernie is on their side, they won't get sued for nothing.
i miss so much on here by actually getting sleep. A shuttle launch and eurovision discussion. They are really pushing that here this year encouraging people to have "big eurovision party" . If only i was borg.
Hey Amy! How was your sleep? :D
And... a Eurovision party... in Australia? :-/
And you ARE Borg. Look what's happened to everyone else. :P
Why on Earth would they push Eurovision in Australia??
The shuttle launch was great. Actually launched a day ahead of schedule. There is still a lot to see in this mission starting with the first spacewalk on Thursday.
i think this may be another yoda comment but who or what is Borg?...
i'm with you on this one, I've no idea.
Oh dear...
Oh dear....
It's a Star Trek thing.
LOL!
Flibster and Pat: Jinx! :P
Ah.
It a Star Trek reference.
Enhanced humans with robotic add-ons, very adaptive with a collective community. A deadly foe too
We sound like old men. :-)
They are the baddest baddies in Star Trek who are part machine. They don't kill their enemies they assimilate and make them Borg. Each Borg drone has no personality or individual thoughts the hear all Borg thoughts and only exist to assimiliate more species.
Hence the "...is futile" jokes lately
[Infamous for the line: Resistance is futile]
yoda is not Borg
Yoda is just bad @ss
ooh right... so why is Amy Borg?
i didn't say he was, i just thought i may get the same reaction.lol
Borg is also a term some use for the Tifosi
Because she doesn't seem to sleep, it was perceived that she only has "regenerative cycles"
She has gone from not commenting to to being every where all the time
i think they push it here for the lolz. Ive never watched it before. I am so un-borg that tonight i will be in bed by 11 again. And you all thought id fail my withdrawal!
oooooooh right!
The new level on the sidepodaddiction page of the wiki is a refernce to a Borg who was changed back into a human.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_of_Nine
You can't withdraw from sidepodcast. Resistance is futile
Maybe you sleep-comment ;)
it really is. even when i have lost internet connection i have leant out of the window to pick up my neighbours wi-fi so i can live comment the race.... :) you really can't leave :P
Welcome to the Hotel Sidepodcast. You can check in anytime you like, but you can never leave. :P
I was thinking just the same
hahaha :D
You get the song reference? :D
i wonder if mr and mrs c are still looking for the subtitle thing for the site. they started their search last year some time didn't they? this has to be a contender :)
The Eagles
[We shall call it at that to shame the ignorant ;) ]
Picard explains the Borg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPlTQvbCMK4
ok time for sleep. night all!!x
Fine by me. :D Hmmm... I might finally make my own page on the Wiki. :)
Night Lou. :)
G'night Lou
i thought we had established that resistance is finnish. Its not really withdrawal because the first thing i do when i wake up is read the hundreds of comments posted while i was zzzing :).
:D
Good night Lou
Night Lou
Oh yeahhhh! :D Riiight. :P But hey, you sleep normal hours now, so that's a start. :P
You don't have a page on th wiki. Is that allowed?
Hahaha! We'll never know - I'm making one now. :)
So withdrawal is not really 100% successful
withdrawal is the wrong word really, its more a mission to get more than 4 hours sleep per day
Hehehe. Good! Don't leave. :P
My wiki page is up by the way. No links yet, just text for now. :)
Oh, and Mr. C, would appreciate it if you can pull my first comment and put it up on my Wiki page? Thanks. :D
Sidepodcast Wiki: Beats Facebook any day of the year. ;)
What's Facebook?
Exactly. :D
That was quick
There is a sidepodcast facebook club thing but I have never used facebook so I don't know anything about it.
It was? That seemed just enough time to make a proper writeup. No links yet, though. :)
Same here. Last I heard, it wasn't getting as much attention as it used to...
I think that's Star Trek