In what may be a regular pattern, it's time again for another Apple event in quick succession after the annual iPhone refresh. The Yerba Buena venue makes it more likely we'll get a live streamed keynote but all will be revealed as we near the start time of 18:00 (GMT+1). Expected today are refreshed iPads and release dates for the pre-announced Mac Pro and OS X Mavericks. Join us to speculate, discuss and prepare to flex the plastic as we prepare for Tim Cook to take the stage.
Retirement of the big cats
Published by Bassano on
way hey! apple tv is showing a live stream channel for this one.
Yep, it would appear it's location dependant as the iPhone's Campus Town Hall doesn't have the infrastructure to allow streaming
This tongue in cheek piece made me chuckle on the meaning behind the event invite design
http://www.tuaw.com/2013/10/15/tuaw-overanalyzes-apples-october-22-ipad-event-invitation/
Just for mac's and apple tv?
There's a weblink sometimes, I think. Or maybe it's an iOS device only thing, can't remember
If anywhere, it's likely to be here nearer the time
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/
I should be good to watch it on my iPod hopefully if not
anyone brave enough to make any predictions?
i have a pretty big want list for this one:
- mavericks released today
- mac book pro with thunderbolt 2
- updated mac mini's with a sensible gpu
- new apple display (4k would be nice, but just thinner would do)
- mac pro configuration options, price and launch date
- ipad mini with retina display
- updated final cut x
- updated ibooks (no wooden bookshelf)
- updated ilife (no leather effect)
would also love it if apple finally killed off the cheap mbp's with the stupid legacy optical drives.
wouldn't mind if the 'cover' rumours are true and apple try something like the surface dj cover: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/23/4761420/microsoft-announces-surface-music-control-cover
browser keynote live stream: http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2013/
(may be only for mac desktops though)
apple store is down :)
Someone put the kettle on, I'm nearly home
I'm kinda looking forward to it... but at the same time I'm not. I feel all iPad'd out
but at the same time, new stuff is awesome.
Well, iWork apps are changing
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/22/apple-touts-iwork-for-icloud-upgrades-coming-in-just-a-few-short-hours/
But... but... it's been a whole year and I *need* a retina mini :)
I still need any ipad! ;)
I know of a lovely 16gb WiFi mini that comes from a good home ;)
Hmmm.
Might come back to you about that in Mid-November...
No probs, it'll likely go ASAP on arrival of it's replacement but I'll give you a heads up first
w00t!
I'm ok with this if the RMBP entry price was reduced to fill the gap, otherwise it's a steep ladder to join
Cheers dude. If I can't then no worries but when you let us know I'll see what's possible
the air fills that gap, surely?
It's no a 'do all' machine though. It's lightweight for light duties IMHO
Large iTunes library, sorry not for you. Same for Aperture or Lightroom work, not ideal
the only thing stopping me from getting one is the screen and the only thing stopping christine is the limited ports. it's a bloomin' fast mac.
Can I just want them to fix everything they broke last time?
you can't keep either of those on a retina mac book pro.
"we've already broken your mobile OS, now we'll do the same for your desktop"
ooooh, the risky microsoft approach to development!
For the record, I don't think there'll be new iPods this year. The Classic is still clinging on by it's fingernails, will it slip?
1TB drives or don't bother for me but the benefits of SSD are strong
Considering the prices involved for Apple's new products, do you ever wonder if there are new editions of things too often in a short space of time? Like, sometimes I feel like there have been too many new iPads. It still feels like yesterday that the iPad was announced!
I'm in dire need of 3TBs. Stoopid TV and movies.
can't fit itunes onto a 1tb anymore surely? you gots to buy more movies.
and the rest! stoopid podcasting.
wouldn't mind saying goodbye to ye olde connector once and for all.
There is the option of deleting large files and downloading again in the future if desired. Should be able to stream it without having to keep in the library
That option is very much in use.
read somewhere recently that apple won't guarantee a movie or song will remain in the cloud. you have to keep local copies sadly. unless they come up with a cast iron "your stuff is yours forever and we promise its availability"
Okay, I need that new drive sooner than I thought!
#truestory
the opposite, i think things take too long. mac book pro's could've been updated in august and a new display should've been released this time last year. i'm frustrated with the pace of change, it's holding me back.
A lot of manufacturers have upgrade cycles below 12 months. Look how many Samsung phones come out each year. It's a fast changing industry
It's true, I suppose the status of Apple makes it seem bigger. It amazed me last month that HTC have already brought out a HTC One Max that looks exactly the same as my phone but bigger. Just seems mad to me
I usually rent or don't. Plus, due to Virgin's traffic management, ripping LoveFilm BluRays is a better option for me. Watch when convenient
the bane of my life are users not upgrading. just look at how much IE8 held back (and still holds back) the web.
Mornin' all :D
You kind of get on a cycle though. Especially with phones. My contract is up now just in time for iPhone 5. Will. Be up again in time for 7, probably :)
Hey Matt, you working later today? Might be a lot of questions from customers :)
yo!
different use-case. to me there's no storage differences between the air and the old mbp that would make saving it worthwhile.
Sure am, Big day I expect :D
maybe apple will shock us all and announce the iKyvat
I'll also stick my neck out and say Touch ID is limited to either the iPhone only or will exclude the mini if coming to iPads
:)
Afternoon all. Just got home in time for the Keynote. Have music playing on Apple TV which just restarted itself :s
Hey Andy
live stream just playing music at the minute.
yay!
First keynote I've actually been able to watch for ages. I think this could be quite exciting.
And its Gooooooooooooo!
Wheeeeeee
the iOS 7 video again?
this is a repeat, right?
are we watching the right keynote?
Absolutly looooove this vid
hmm I've still got copyright notice.
The date says so
Same
The next best thing!
http://imgur.com/GbvgQjE
More a statement i think
ah, now I have the iOS 7 video, must be a delay...
Now Tim says things I do... :p
It is one of the best things I have ever seen to advertise the brand.
I really need to stop thinking he looks like paul o'grady
He really does :D
He does!
I bet he does a great Lily Savage at the Christmas party
Covent Garden!
Where do you work, Matt?
what's the song?
I'm gonna guess the song title is life in colour :)
One Republic: Life In Colour
ta.
"the reviews have been tremendous"
...except from christine.
Jeremy's store?
He's gonna point at the camera and just go "We know, Christine of the Internet, we know."
At a certain fruit company ;)
Oh, the heckling I could do if I was there.
Me too - Genius in Milton Keynes
Same role, different location
Takes some getting used to, but overall it's much better
Oh sweet! I'm Australia corporate :)
Excellent :)
hahaha. you do not wanna go down that road.
christine must've found 30+ bugs so far. actual broken code.
Hmm, my stream is skipping
take that microsoft!
Hehe!
Really? Very smooth for me. Might need a restore ;)
back from my meeting just in time i see. yay!
Yay Craigy!
Also hehe
Eyebrows is back
trust me. she lives on the device and i can confirm it's not an issue with her phone. have filed radars.
I'm waiting for today's hair themed pun
Me too, usual VM fair for anything streaming
How good is Hair Force One!
Fair enough. That's the only way to get them fixed
Hi all, I'm watching Leo & stream ok from there now having had issues earlier
Sweet, you can finally download RAM
Hi Janna
I have less problems streaming on my iPad that on the iMac, strangely
Erm, no. You can download software that will make better use of your existing hardware.
opencl baby!
It was a joke for the downloading ram nonsense over the years
This is the 3rd time we've heard some of this, get a move on When? :)
Yeah, I was just making sure - there were some people that believed their iPhones would become waterproof by installing iOS7
That was a great spoof
Working in IT leads me to some scary conclusions with people and computers
nnoooooo, not a mavericks demo.
Are those skinny cinema displays or iMacs?
Yes. Anyone who believed that deserves everything they got (i.e a bill for replacement)
sidepodspace
ooooooooh!
Steven's got competition
I can't see properly but I would guess Macs as skinny displays don't exist.
He's gonna have to get a whole cinema to top that
You headpinged?
iMacs, they have a chin :)
HAIR FORCE TWO!!
The wife: Hair Force Two :)
They're iMacs - 27"
Hah :)
I wish Craig ran the company.
And RAM door.
How sad are we?
I think paul o'grady has a new series soon
Craig Federighi is stealing your job
pffft, website notifications are great, unless you're the mug who has to implement them :(
is he buying a car during a flipping conference?
Now I am confused
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2013/
Ooooh, imagine sidepodcast in reader view.
Is that the same as the Chrome pop-up thing?
it's like windows live tiles. except worse.
No idea what that is cos W8 will come to BA around 2019
Haha! We're a 'special' breed
Ooh, I remember this from last time. Still working on doing more stuff to make best use of it.
RAM tray spotters! ;)
♥
Thanks :D
C'mon, say it: "And it's available to download.... today"
pleeeeeeease
It's always disappointed me Mac from Always Sunny has never turned up at a conference. He could be Mac in those adverts with Mac and Windows
$free
Wow
WOWOWWOWOWOW
take that microsoft!
x2
Take that Micro$oft
points ;)
windows = £200
os x = £0
Snap!
I thought they couldn't do it for free because of accountancy rules and blah blah.
O.O
Apple, i love you.
Free is my favourite word. <3
to be fair, I got windows 8 pro for £25
but still, free >>>>>> £25
They calculate differently between Macs and iPods/iPhones
free for EVERYONE.
holy cow!!
Hmm, iOS thinking, very cool
Today! Boom!
Fun fact: carrier bags in wales are now more expensive than apple's latest OS.
YEEEHAAWWW
:) :)
:) :) :)
Yes! Phil gets it.
I'm loving the way Apple are basically forcing everyone to have the latest version of their software by giving them no incentive to stay on their current version
SO making my way to the apple store tomorrow for the lovely internet connection... NEED Mavericks.
Phil Schiller is like an embarrassing dad, dancing at party :)
same with ios 7.
And now there's auto-updates, so point upgrades will be pretty quick too
Thinner and lighter.
DRINK.
Ha ha!
That's exactly what is needed. No more legacy support.
#fact
The Black Night is my favourite Bartman film
Best game (& shortest...)
oh go on Apple. make me sad my Mac Pro is old now and not as good as what you're about to bring out
*hugs beautiful mac pro*
mac pro?!
THUNDERBOLT 2
yeah baaaaabyyyy!
$200 price cut
You mean Macbook Pro ;)
macbook pro sorry. macbook is long to type with my left hand. :(
MBP
@sarahlane: Space Gray Knight
ahh phew :)
yes yes.. *wishful thinking* *in my dreams* *when i win the lottery ;) *
♥
cystalwell??
!!!! yes mbp. hadnt considered that. :) thanks
Goddamnit, now I want a macbook.
Why do they have to look so good :(
need one of these.
I think non-retina will go, Mr C
and optical drives with it.
NOOOOOO! sad times.
*dances*
No messing aout today
Ooo 15" machines look amazingly fast.
gonna have to watch this back. christ.
"So this is our line up"
Yup
best.keynote.ever.
Oooh, that thing.
Play Muse Play Muse!
I'm still waiting for someone to pull a rabbit out of one
ohh, forgot about this beauty.
I know Xeon is impressive because it has an X
I am a bit sad the non-retina is going though :(
good lord.
If we have teraflops now then it can't be too long before we have gigglyflops
12gb of gddr5 vram!!!!
price guess for this machine then? £5,000?
Viking funeral
ONE MILLION DOLLARS
:)
That's a lot of photoshopping of Jean Todt right there
Noooooo
channel bonding?!
I'm fairly sure Apple have built a time machine.
4k display HAs to be coming.
up to three displays!
If anyone could do it, I'd say Apple. Or the hyperloop guy.
"Built for expansion"
[on the desk next to it]
"To tell us about the Mac Pro, let me bring out Doc Brown"
It's so small
£2999?
bargain!
yes, it's great for video, music and photography, but will it run rollercoaster tycoon?!
$2999
£3500-4000?
even better. holy smokes.
Mmmm, Thermal core
£29.99?!
WOW!!
...wait. wait. aww.
i'm dreaming.
we need one christine.
Mmmmmmmhm.
That is recyclable!
so quiet. sold.
It recycles your money into pure RAM
"you can even use it as a toaster!"
Don't forget to let me know when you're ready to buy :)
I wonder if the cup holder spins..?
:)
cheers. we get developer discounts for christine's app.
bins, bins everywhere
These manufacturing vids are great
:)
@acedtect: The new Mac Pro is assembled in the USA by people across 20 states. That seems like a wastefully long assembly line.
I see, didn't know about that.
No Jony yet
no screens?
:D
This guy, this guy means business.
Ken Ray calls him Eddie 'The Stuff' Cue.
Not sure why but that always makes me chuckle
Those cuff-tastic Ferrari stylists have gotten to Eddy
He he
Show me the iPads!
icloud movie syncing.
whisper.... hello...
yo!
Hey LPG
*waves*
SHHHHH!!!
hehe
(been sat reading the thread for the last 20 minutes and then realised that I should probably de-cloak...)
sounds like Rocksmith
Killer drums versus giant octopus.
kyle the drummer.
if Spinal Tap tells us anything, don't get too attached to garageband's drummers
So is this the Kyle from Tenacious D?
all the cool stuff from logic pro x are now in garageband. eek.
see? replaceable drummers.
helloooo cleveland
The "real" drummers are amazingly good.
Nice moustache, Gavin.
apple may as well merge logic and garageband, there's nothing between them now.
Garageband is Freemium now.
A lot of musicians give it all up to become drummers :p
like that os x icons aren't trying to go flat.
and the drummers go into production....
Next year, for OS Ice Man :)
What I want is a new version of Aperture.
won't work unless they retina all the screens.
lightroom.
Even graphier than ever before
Excellent, my biggest gripe with iOS iWork is file format.
Normally when they say "we've made it easier" they mean we've messed about for no reason. This actually looks better.
I'd have to pay for Lightroom.
animated charts :)
Pah
looks aren't everything (still holding out against ios7 because of the ruddy zoom...)
Rate the spreadsheet
?
*hugs*
What an album cover!
Hang on tight
makes me feel sick even turned right down, and is disconcertingly button pushing on my synaesthesia...
Looks like it should be on a list of worst album covers ever ;)
Simultaneous editing, that can only end well
sidepodcamp newsletter :)
I miss google wave
Google what?
If Eddy invites you onstage to make him an album cover, you go onstage!
That was handy for the one project we used it for
that is one impressive demo.
Classy poster ;)
*dies*
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
They said this at the iPhone event, didn't they?
i need a mac in my life.
YEEEAAAAAAHHHHH! freeeeee!!
i died watching the demo. i have no use for the tech, i just loved that segment.
All I can hear from here is the sofa emitting squeaks and exclamations...
With new devices
*nods*
It makes me want to do another newsletter! More camps!
free is free. i know i can't use it. but it fills me with happiness it's free. :)
i also nee dmoney :(
No Aperture :(
"Who remembers netbooks?" :)
nor final cut x
i'm exhausted.
finally!
That's a fun trend line
20 Apps being updated? Maybe pro stuff just didn't make the demo?
"Anyone who believes this thing is a game changer is a tool." - Paul Thurrott
I'm surprised it didn't get a mention.
That's on the same level as Michael Dell's corker
Being re-written for Mac Pro architecture and capabilities?
Don't encourage people to use it as a camera!!!
They keep using it as a camera, Tim. No.
best camera ever.
fixed
Or the Famous Ken Olsen quote: There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home.
Sami, Sami listen to my calls please! You're breaking the car Sami
best camera ever, if you care about seeing the image you're shooting.
Actually Underwater it makes perfect sense to use as a camera.
Very awkward in the grandstands at a GP, I can tell you
it annoys me when they explain something, then someone comes on and says the exact same thing
iPad Air?
We demand a Jony vid!
yus.
iPad plus - 13" display?
is the 'shutter' speed high enough??
(I got some halfway decent shots from my phone this year, by (once pointing in the right direction) ignoring the screen and using my ears)
Drink!
WOAH!
I hope he sits in a white room, squinting as he calls everything beautiful and more well designed than ever before
Not really but more used for video, I think
actually. not that impressive. wanted a 13".
Thats his happy place
The obsession with no bezel is annoying. I must have big thumbs.
I need iPad Air.
(cough) surface (cough)
I'd be scared I'd snap it in half
No, mini is the sweet spot for me
No A7X?
i wanted a mini, but I want a larger screen than the mini... to show off my piccies :)
Still rather have a mini...
Must have the grunt to drive Retina without the X
Apple TV and iPad mini.
In the studio, I can see the benefit. At home, the mini is ace
Stuff is always better when it has an X in it
I can't take an apple TV and iPad mini to a portfolio viewing tho? or a meeting?..
Harder to bring to the client though
a few friends have the mini, it looks awesome.
Yes you can :)
Most clients will have a TV though?
was that 802.11ac?
Space Grey is stoopid, what's wrong with Dolphins? :)
Missed it to a buffer
we need to ask steven what space grey actually is
Fri 1st Nov
grey... its not nice. I don't like it. and I like grey.
DO IIIIIIIITTTTTT!!
I think it's the colour of Jony's T-shirt
why are they selling ipad 2?!
I prefer black. I assume the grey doesn't rub off like the black does.
with the crappy old connector.
Herrrrrrrres Jony!
ipad 2 made me laugh because I didn't get why it was there
Bezel, bezel, bezel!
but 30pin connector?
JONY IN A WHITE ROOM
j.o.n.y
I have some of those.
Maybe to give them a lower priced product?
who's coming jony spotting at goodwood next year?
Do they let him out of the room?
does the room have corners?
Did jony design the room?
What is jony sitting on?
Life's biggest questions.
Probably very cheap to manufacture now, higher margins
let's do it.
When is Goodwood again... (has diary open)
yay.
The iChair Air
next year.
Pure profit, plus it's "good enough" for a lot of people. Schools like them because they can get more units for their money.
July?
probably, but i want the ease of just getting it out of my bag and showing it off like my portfolio. I bring my mac along at the moment and it's fine.. but if i could just take an ipad.. that would be perfect! would there be a big price difference in buying an apple tv AND an ipad mini as oppose to an ipad air?
This is all hypothetical of course.
he'll be the one driving around in a nicely beveled golf cart
26 - 29 June at the moment
forget Jony spotting, i'll be Mr C spotting.. just in case ya do turn up ;)
No
No
Yes
Air (Obviously)
:p
maybe mr c is jony ive?
Not much, cheaper with the two but not as convenient
Apple TVs are £99 so not much difference, I'm guessing.
i've no interest in cars. but totes up for following jony.
Only if we chopper it in.
done.
Well I'd figured that!
I need to ... I hate having so much diary booked up already and so little of it... mutter.... shuffles feet...
wait. you won't fly?
Is there a paddock club, he'll be there
Retina mini. Sold!
they should get jony ive to replace hermann tilke.
I reckon flying must be better than going nowhere for four hours :)
finally.
Same pixel count as 9.7"
yeah, was thinking it may add up to the same amount. I'll just continue to save everything i earn and one day i'll look at my account and go 'hey i can actually afford this!'
:)
Better to be busy than bored.
Yay.... thank you!!
After Montreal :)
Hmph... Stupid antipodean distance from much motorspotiness...
Don't forget dates are provisional depending on GP calendar
802.11 AC not mentioned
dang.
yeah exactly! (that's why i'm not touching most of what i earn at the moment - must.go.to.canada..)
Price has gone up, expected that
299/399/499
Probably start at £319 here... maybe
I think I'll buy an iFruit
bono still gets a cover.
I reckon £329 as that's the current price of the iPad 2
The iPhone didn't get it, didn't expect the iPads to
Why are UK prices higher than US? Is it just the import costs?
UK tax is included, US not
Tax varies by state
@Pundamentalism: Tim Cook announces new iPad on the same night that people compete in the Great British Bake-Off. Both hope to improve Apple Turnover.
True, expecting £599 for 64GB with cellular
:D
It's based on exchange rate and the VAT is inclusive on UK prices, Sales tax is added in the US as it is different depending where you buy.
I like how they labelled that as an ad
Yeeooowwwwwww!
:D
that was fun.
now i must watch world war z!
Onto Leo now
Video, demo, Ad - all traditional items in a Keynote, all using the same font as always :D
stuff i hoped for but didn't see mentioned:
- updated mac mini's with a sensible gpu
- new apple display (4k would be nice, but just thinner would do)
- updated final cut x
- updated ibooks (no wooden bookshelf)
go! #nospoilers
Off to sleep for 2 hours now, thanks all :)
Something else always sneaks in once the store opens
Night, night
cheers for that y'all.
really enjoyed the event, appreciate the thread bassano.
No worries. See ya next June ;)
must read mavericks review:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/
Siracusa was quick!
yay happy for all the free things, and stuff i can't afford but want to buy. Thanks guys, see ya'll for some bakin' in a bit! x
months of work i'd imagine :)
http://store.apple.com/uk/buy-ipad/ipad-mini-retina
£319
Oh yeah, he's been updating the ATP podcast saying how frustrating it is without price or release date
128GB mini http://store.apple.com/uk/buy-ipad/ipad-mini-retina
And for the Air, obviously
Oh! 13" non-retina MBPro lives on.
Now to find out if the 32s are getting... um... sorted to ... (grin)
WHHAAAAAAAAAT
i hate my life.
£100 difference with entry retina, that's good
You don't have to buy one.
? Some people *like* them... like schools....
i just want dvd's to die.
Does it affect you? You have an aversion to physical media [as do I] but I can see the reason for maintaining it
:)
You don't have to put DVDs in one.
Oh, I could go with this - just let me replace and rip the things the children have killed first...
Rent, don't buy
No pre-orders either which means it'll take a while to get a new iPad :(
Queue at Covent Garden?
I'm not queueing for nuttin'
Online and spend the gained time in the pub :)
Keynote day is such a rollercoaster of fun.
Not available for rent... or digitally. or I'd have done that already! I'm haunting A... for very much reduced copies that get ripped asap
i loved the keynote. i just can't believe apple are so backwards.
When DVD drives finally die, Mr C will have a smile wider than Disco Dan
Nooooooooo.
Nooooo queuing. non. neh! niet!
mini is 0.3mm thicker and 23g heavier (WiFI only)
I'm surprised that the iPad 2 is still available, that leaves iPod Classic (2009) and iPad 2 (2011) with Dock connector.
Macbook Pro 13" will continue to use original MagSafe too.
Also, no new displays :(
Mac Pro http://store.apple.com/uk/buy-mac/mac-pro
£2499 for 3.7GHz quad core, £3299 for 6 core
cd's were a crap technology when they were invented. they're worse than useless 30 years later.
I still love the MiniDisc :)
lovely little things... but as tempting as 3 1/2" disks to the small people... so much stuff lost :-(
High shelves :)
ATRAC too
What's Mimo?
Multi in Multi Out - uses multiple channels simultaneously.
Ah, multiple antennae
"it offers significant increases in data throughput and link range without additional bandwidth or increased transmit power"
The delivery companies will breathe a sigh of relief, iPad deliveries won't be as big as the last 2 launches on day one
iOS 7.0.3 is out
Didn't work... they have all been very good at climbing over hanging verticals...
i'll tell christine.
Not seeing it over the air at the moment but is in iTunes
safari 6.1 installing on mountain lion right now too.
commenting from safari 6.1
iPad Air available to order from Nov 1st, iPad mini "later in November" :(
Snappier? ;)
totes
.
Might be helpful for older devices or those with seasickness like symptoms
"Enhances the Reduce Motion setting to minimize both motion and animation"