So here we are for another day. The snow seems to be gradually disappearing, and is therefore not such a topic of discussion as it was previously. Ah well, the good ol' British weather saw us out for two days, can't ask for more than that. Naturally, there are other things on the table for discussion:
- Webber has been talking about his rapid recovery, which includes some pretty chilly temperatures. Dank had the story a couple of days ago, and F1 Minute featured a "big pic" of the Australian yesterday. It's clear Webber wants to go the extra mile to ensure he's fit and ready - is Vettel really that scary an opponent?
- Meanwhile, Toyota are busy defending their decision to run in Bahrain, and actively encouraging other teams to join them. Pascal Vasselon reckons that Bahrain is the best value for your testing dollar, due to the fact that it won't be a washout, as Portugal was. I suppose with testing so limited, the man has a point.
- Nick Heidfeld has been discussing his ambitions for 2009, saying that the idea of a maiden win is all very well and good, but what he's really after is the title. He reckons a car that's good enough to win will take him to the title. Is this possible? And if BMW did have the motor to boost them to the top, would it be Quick Nick that became number one?
That's it for now. Don't forget to vote in the latest Character Cup, though, if you haven't already. Another one will be along later on today. Until then, I'll see you in the comments.
it's snowing again ;)
presumably that'll conveniently spread the freight costs and the circuit rental too?
None in London just yet but let's see what the morning brings. I don't actually want to use any more leave days to stay at home :(
i hear ya. too much of a good thing now, isn't it?
Well I'm off to bed or I'll never get up in the morning. Night all :D
night jackie.
Still none here
None here either.
I always wondered... why don't they use Turkey. That way they can truck to the track instead of fly. Plus, it's a Bernie owned track, so he would cut... them... a...deal????
Nevermind.
As much as I love Nick, I get the feeling that Kubica would take the title if the BMW becomes THAT competitive.
I do hope he gets a wins, I don't want him to be the German version of Chris Amon.
He, he (wikipedia caution but..)
His reputation for bad luck was such that fellow driver Mario Andretti once joked that "if he became an undertaker, people would stop dying"
hahaha. classic.
although teams use ricard prior to monaco, so his rates can't be that bad.
On the most recent F1 Weekly.com podcast (one of our competitors in Fantasy Racing) they were talking about KERS and that F1 races in the rain and the combination of the two could prove shocking if teams ran into problems with KERS. Now I'm no electrician just a painter but I don't think water and electricity combined can be very good for the safety of the pit crew, driver or even the marshals or satety crews.
Hehehe. Brilliant! But just a note there - they don't truck to Turkey. They truck to Italy, then go by ship to Turkey.
Ahh... I wouldn't want to be a marshal this year.
You think that they would test for that sort of thing. Seeing how conductive water is, I would hate to be anywhere in the Pitlane with an F1 car around.
Also, I am taking this track thing too seriously. I am starting to build the Vancouver and Seattle track on Rfactor with a mod creator I found. Now I just need to figure out how to make the cars for the game so we can really have Sidepodcastracers.
Five Pints of Awesome!!!
If anyone else is interested, here is the program I am using. LINK: http://www.bobstrackbuilder.net/
The Gravel Trap
OK - is this scary or what? We were talking about this song the other day...
Whoever it is here that writes for F1 ITV, please own up!
mark.hughes.
actually, that's not fair, we only know he listens :)
if i knew what language this was written in, i'd take a shot at translating:
http://tinyurl.com/playboyjenson
however, i'm not gonna let a thing like that (or basic facts) slow me down, and therefore suggest - button's found a new, erm, soul...mate.
Google translate from romanian seems to work.
From just a quick browse at the site I'd say it was Romanian, but you try and find a web-translator that does Romanian to English that works and you might be in there!
Found one...
hehe
:D
I like the way it refers to the lady as "Button's Conquest." Maybe he fought Rubens for her??
The Gravel Trap is (or was) written by a fellow called Robert Sinfield. When news broke that ITV were relinquishing the F1 contract he started hawking it about to all and sundry, including F1R. At around the same time he appeared on a forum slagging the magazine off! How we laughed.
Sidepodcast ad break...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2T6YdEcp6w
Saw this on the telly last night and was so astounded that I had to search for it on Youtube to make sure I wasn't imagining it. Who is Paul and what's so fascinating about his toilet?!!
Now I know why I don't watch the adverts!
OMG who drop.io'd the LEGO snowman???
Guilty.
Yay! Inside the Mind of a Grand Prix Driver and GP3 just came in the post :D
You have post? We haven't had a peep out of our postie since last week.
Your creation?
There goes your day then ;-)
Not a chance.
http://www.usf1.com/
Wassat about then? Just found the link through another forum. Not much to go on at the moment.
I'm having a bug on the homepage in IE7. I have dropped it:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/homepagebugie7-gif
yeah. that's quikmaps. i'll fix it. soz.
Actually ignore it. Just realised that it's a blinkin' GMM related story about Peter Windsor and others putting together an all American F1 team.
The logo on the site dates back to Sep 08 so probably nothing new.
Looks like the site is registered by this chap:
http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cref-andken.html
ok. map hidden from homepage, the error will appear if you view the post though. sorry, it's a quikmap bug, nothing much we can do about it :(
I told you you needed to rewrite the internet! ;)
Oh and thanks!
am working on it. just figured out a 100%+ performance improvement when displaying doohickey-fropio-lightbox images using a combination of:
- jquery / json
- google app engine
- memcache
- drop.io
it's crazy complicated, but sooo fast. may release this evening.
Sounds like you need a mini series :)
i really do!
I had that Error too in Firefox... I just thought it was our IT...
Mitsubishi in Dakar withdrawal
Funny how all of Motorsport's losers are quitting because of the Economic crisis :-(
I sorely miss the Mitzi's in the WRC :-(
here is the USF1 "exclusive" from motorsport-total. I am not sure why I think we will hear Peter Windsor soon denying he has anything to do with that ...
Motorsport Total Article
Andretti did indeed say that
Maybe This guy?:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/7702121.stm
The previous Gravel Trap column had Ronald McDonald next to a Renault
Hmmm, wonder if it's a lurker or a contributor here?
Ok I admit it. It's not me.
Anyway, Google Latitude: http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html
Allows you to view your friends' locations and status messages on your mobile or PC. Good or bad idea?
Bad idea open to too much abuse
blimey. as a person who currently has no mobile phone (i lost the power thingy), it's not a heap of use to me.
i'm not sure i want to know where people are at any given time either. it could be useful for silverstone / goodwood meetups i guess. kind of invasive though isn't it?
No iPhone? EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!!
no, no. i have an itouch and it's fine.
i had temporarily a cheap monochrome nokia. actually i still have it, it's lacking in energy though.
Anyone here that has Grand Prix 3 and Vista - does it run on your system, and if so can you help?
Finally figured out how to get my Orange e-mail account to download e-mail.
I think I will start a campaign for simple e-mail address and standard server info.
Scott,
I have GP3 somewhere. I will dig it out later and try it on my Vista machine.
Don't forget your BAT racer runs.
use gmail :)
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45048&PO=45048
And I see the FIA are still insisting on dumbing-down F1 and treating fans like idiots!
Now that I have the damn thing working you come up with an alternative.
Every e-mail account I have ever had all you need to put in the server box is mail.whoever not Orange. They need pop.*** on incoming and smtp.**** on outgoing. How am I supposed to remember that?
If I remember I'll check out some simulator forums later and see...
"“When we see that things are picking up and there is more money in multi-nationals for discretionary spend, then we can start reintroducing a wider technical competition,” said Tony Purnell"
That may be the dumbest thing anyone has ever said. We need to cut costs to save F1 disappearing but as soon as things pick up again we will back off so we can be in exactly the same position the next time there is an unexpected dip.
I thought Purnell was supposed to be the brains of the outfit.
that's patently ridiculous.
what the chuff are these people on:
required to provide the technology they design at a capped price to teams that choose not to compete in that area
the last time that happened it resulted in a $100m fine. agreed the capped price was $0, but still.
That Latitude thing doesn't work on the iPhone :(
Only on Anderoid and Symbian :(
Boooo!
How am I going to live comment my current location now? ;)
That story about USF1 is on Autosport now:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73121
find a nearby sign, and take a picture of it?
No matter, I've got it working. But I need help on 2 other things. The calibration and button screens for the joypad option are all in gibberish and I can't understand what I need to do. Also, I went to drive out of the pits, got a few feet and then the game crashed. Any help?
cool, good spot from dank :)
"The team are already understood to have a logo"
They are practically race ready then.
:) hahaha
heeeh :D
surely the fact that the logo is displayed right there on the page is the dead givaway?
Yeah... that's why I'm going to check for you, because the first thing that happens when a new operating system is released is that people post sticky threads on how to run older games...
Good thinking... If I upload it to twitpic I think it actually can take the geotag locations from my iPhone. I'll have to check.
I was a bit surprised to see that Autosport said that they are UNDERSTOOD to have a logo. I know we complain when people don't check their facts before they go public but I think they could have been definite about the logo.
Well that might not be a logo... It could be a bit of colour for the website. They might not even have the rights to the name yet.
Not such a mystery... I remember driving past this on the back of a lorry at the back end of last year!
rewritten:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73121
respect.
Anyone from Autosport lurking about? ;)
I think they are watching us. Maybe that is Stuart's new job. :)
Hmmm. Very intriguing theory there.
But hey, at least our opinions are heard and responded to - quickly! That doesn't happen everyday in this sport. :)
'Tis not me. I've been beavering away on chapter six of my booky wook. Perhaps someone raised the issue in the relevant bit of their forum...
Me - spotted the dropio shots of Firefox with the picture view. Does this mean that my issue is related to my zoom settings? I do tend to zoom in on pages so i can read the text better.
Also, it's an iPod Touch
Alex - You can use location services on the iphone to find out where you are. The default application is Google Maps, but if you want Lat/Long there are several apps that you can install to provide additional information.
bassano figured it out. more info here:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/02/03/daily-3rd-february-2009/#comment-185190
worth reading down from there.
itouch.
either way. kudos.
I've checked the Autosport thread, and no one mentioned what we pointed out. So my theory is still alive and kicking. ;)
On the other hand, what that thread DID do is practically kill this rumor on the spot:
- Dank pointed out its GMM origins.
- Someone pointed out that the website was registered in 2000 and the image came up way back in September. So if anything was gonna happen, we would've known by now.
Departing from established GMM practice, I'll ask PW...
already too late though:
http://twitter.com/ThePicMan/statuses/1176334787
http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale/statuses/1176487505
http://twitter.com/cabkab/statuses/1176362937
http://twitter.com/ThePicMan/statuses/1176334864
http://twitter.com/aditya/statuses/1176283652
http://twitter.com/CircusF1/statuses/1176268557
;)
very much appreciated, Stuart! :) That should give us the answer once and for all.
I hope. :D
Well, news can be publicized quickly, and it can be forgotten quickly.
That's what news cycles are for! :D
Baugur in the soup:-
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/retailing/article5658392.ece
Interesting that so many of these retail businesses were lured into "sweating their assets" (i.e. selling their shops and then leasing them back) that they now have few concrete assets left...
Is that not considered to be unsporting? Just because you know the guy and the business and provide us with facts doesn't mean we should trust you anymore than someone who recycles anything he can find. :D
If anything, businesspeople got too adventurous and took too many risks, and now they're paying the price.
sidepodspace update
The flight readiness review was completed yesterday and the space shuttle Discovery's launch will now be not before Feb 19th.
The delay is due to additional analysis and impact testing on associated with the flow control valve in the shuttle's main engine.
Hmmm... Quite interesting, that. An issue was uncovered, I guess? I wonder how much funding NASA will get in the Obama era.
Ah, sorry I wasn't clear. I know where I am. It seemed this thing would transmit where I was to the wider world!
The man himself says this story sounds like the product of a very slow news day...
I hadn't thought about that. I wonder if that is why they ran the first test of their new vehicle last week.
It did seem an odd idea to base a team in the USA in this day and age.
thank you.
well, there's decent windtunnel in the area and the fia would be hard pressed to keep an eye on them from monaco.
how could you tell if a tunnel is being used for champcar, f1 or nascar from your office in paris / monaco.
if i were starting a team, that would be an ideal location. if only i had a logo...
Well that doesn't mean anything does it Stuart?
That's not an equivocal no is it?
If I was being really awkward I would say that is a non-denial denial.
:)
Hmmm... Interesting answers there, rather 'devil's advocate-type'.
But if I were to venture a guess, I'd still take that as a denial. If he were to do a non-denial, surely he would've phrased it a bit differently?
Evnin all
USF1, thats an even worse name than Force India
I should have mentioned yesterday that I started a sporting injury page on the wiki. If anyone remembers sporting injuries that I have forgotten or knows of any new ones please add them.
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Sporting+injuries
Nice! You missed someone, though - and I've duly updated it. ;)
Oooh, now I know what overhearing that guy saying "there's a Dutch lego man on the beach" meant! :)
Force India and USF1? Wouldn't that be getting a bit too A1GP?
Comment of the year? OK, maybe not... ;)
Catching up on the conversation while I was asleep.
Wow.
Do I believe that they can do it... maybe not. Will they have the funding? Ahhh... Will I start making contacts with them to see if they need a PR/web/marketing recuitment guy... YES I WILL! I would be willing to live in North Carolina for that.
They even have a website set up... if you call a jpeg image a website.
http://www.usf1.com/
I think we can be pretty sure they have a logo now. ;)
I can't remember who questioned the location of North Carolina eariler, but it makes some sense. Almost all the NASCAR teams, Penske racing and other IRL, ALMS, ect teams are based in the center of the state. Matter in fact, Mooresville, North Carolina has the nickname of Race City USA because there are so many NASCAR teams and NASCAR technical support in the area.
LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mooresville,_North_Carolina
True that they wouldn't have the F1 petigree or experience, but these ain't novices either.
Scott Woodwiss, you struggling with GP3 working on your vista computer, and having number of problems regarding the fact that you go only a few feet out the pits before the game crashes?
It's a bit expensive just to put up a logo isn't it, maybe they should spend the money, say, by getting some parts?
i am reliably informed that internet has in fact lied to us again, and USF1 does not in fact have a logo at all.
the site in question actually has a "logotype" which is a logo made up entirely of branded typeface.
logo: http://iindigo3d.com/giantapple.png
not a logo: http://www.usf1.com/usf1logo-sep08.jpg
am expecting updates to the autosport article any moment now :)
Damn, and I thought that was to be eaten.
Intresting it says september 08. And surely if they had the money, they would buy Honda and not start from scratch in 010.
allen thinks max is going nowhere:
"He has to make his decision by June and as he explained, they have a complicated system whereby prospective candidates have to draw up a list of people for the key jobs. This is a system he initiated in 2005 as it would give him early warning of anyone plotting to stand against him. Wily old fox."
"Anyway as he talked about it and was saying that he wasn’t sure whether he wanted to do it all again, he made it clear that all the key people want him to run for another term."
http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/lunch-with-max-mosleya-busy-year-ahead/
The Max Mosley loving mod queue has been buffering in the suggestion of me killing Montagny and the mention of Nicole Schwiniginizer, with the fact that it involves me's cog and bibendium is the protection for the pole-dancing panda Carlos.
I've been reading the wiki again..
true enough. is it another one of bernie's "the sport is healthy, look" planted stories.
Just read the USF1 story. That's great! Finally a chance for America to get back onto the F1 map and I'm sure a great opportunity to give young American talent a real chance to make it to the top level of the sport. I'm especially loving this part of the story:
"The Formula One Teams' Association's (FOTA) recent confirmation that each manufacturer is willing to supply customer engines for 5 million Euros per season and gearboxes for 1.5 million Euros now make it more feasible than it has been for years for an independent team to enter F1 in 2010."
That is exactly what we need! More independant teams just like it was back in the good ol' days. £6.5m to get engines and gearboxes is nothing compared to the massive budgets of McLaren, Ferrari, Toyota, etc. I've always said the reason why smaller teams don't move to F1 is because it's just too damn expensive to get started. Now though, this should hopefully help open the floodgates. Heck, I hope they bring back pre-qualifying! I want to see loads of these smaller teams make the move from GP2 or Formula 2 or Renault World Series and pack the grids so that there's plenty of racing to be had.
'Parantly they are intresting in getting none other than Mike Gascoyne, or probably a strange coincedence he is looking to move over to the US of A.
Assuming it's true, of course. But all the signs have pointing to it being otherwise.
And you saw this where?
Forum gossip so to speak.
Warm up runs complete
this really is quality post from JA. the man is rivalling TED! news here:
"[Max] on the fallout from last year’s sex scandal he said that he is now virtually certain who set him up, implied that it was someone in F1 and said that he is waiting for final conclusive proof before he acts. He did not rule out legal action."
that's gonna be fun to watch!
http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/lunch-with-max-mosleya-busy-year-ahead/2/
Max never needed proof of anything before. Besides he has been chucking the same rubbish around since his trial.
true enough.
Again?!? This is ridiculous!
You can't just listen to the same people over and over again, knowing they'll tell you want you want to hear, and ignore the thousands that are making blatant sense...
Not that it doesn't sound like something Max would do, though...
Mine too.
We want Steven Roy! We want Steven Roy!
"roy for president, roy for president"
as i said in an earlier post, he's REALLY done a lot in the last few months to restore his reputation with his F1 fan-critics.
fun? more like painful. if i didn't know better, he'd blame bernie. then all heck would break loose. if anything, that could trigger an FIA/FOTA coup.
People listen to what they want to hear; it's human nature. And remember, those 'same people' are the ones who vote for FIA president, not us.
Roy: Change F1 Can Believe In
"Max feels that slipstreaming is the answer and is getting his people to look further into moveable aerodynamics on the car which allow the car behind to be faster than the car in front by virtue of being ‘towed’."
Slipstreaming in the answer. NO SH1T! That is turns stating the bleedin' obvious into an art form.
Max should remember when he was racing there was lots of slipstreaming which gave lots of overtaking and there were no moveable aerodynamic devices.
Me for pres? Not until there is a salary attached. I can't sit back for years waiting for Bernie to write me a cheque with 8 zeroes on it.
Easier said than done, I guess. Engineers are MUCH more aggressive now in finding an advantage compared to before, especially through loopholes. It'll be very tricky to pull this off without F1 becoming a spec-sport.
It is not as easy as it once was but one thing is certain. You cannot have slipstreaming in cars that produce 4 G of downforce.
Now I’m no electrician just a painter but I don’t think water and electricity combined can be very good for the safety of the pit crew, driver or even the marshals or satety crews. {Aitch - 131 comments ago}
I would have thought not. Granted, the pit areas have grounding strips, but they only help when the car is positioned on those strips. Which is the case for a remarkably small proportion of the car's running.
There are a raft of measures designed to force the KERS system to switch off in two seconds, but if they don't work, we are looking at a serious safety hazard. Hopefully a solution will prevent itself (it's probably too late to ban KERS systems for 2009).
if i knew what language this was written in, i’d take a shot at translating:
http://tinyurl.com/playboyjenson {me - 123 comments ago}
All that and it turns out that I could have saved myself lots of time (and frustration in attempting to turn Google's useless translation software off long enough for qtl to do its job) by going to some British tabloid...
I know I might be missing something, but what is the value of this guy? I don't mean that it in negative way. I loved him on Maurice Hamilton's podcast but after the lawsuit with Force India... do the positive outweigh the negatives with bringing him on a F1 team?
Adding on, It surprises me how little attention the about face from the FIA regarding movable wings ("massively flexing") have received. Especially with how controversial that topic has been in the past.
The Gravel Trap is (or was) written by a fellow called Robert Sinfield. When news broke that ITV were relinquishing the F1 contract he started hawking it about to all and sundry, including F1R. At around the same time he appeared on a forum slagging the magazine off! How we laughed. {Stuart C - 113 comments ago}
I'll record that in my "How Not To Get A Job" notepad...
That was me on both accounts on the Autosport forums! I'm like Columbo me. Without the dodgy eye though.
USF1 = vapourware.
Gascoyne is a really good guy to have on board but only if the management is going to let him run his part of the show. Look at what Jordan and Renault achieved with him running the technical side of things. He set the foundations for Renault's championship seasons.
He didn't fit in at Toyota and clearly FIF1 is no longer Jordan.
He knows how to get a good car designed.
Some one posted this off another forum which he got from another forum
Mclaren - A wind-tunnel worker who 'Left' after one year to join...
...Tyrrell - Was taken with Postlethwaite after one year to...
...Sauber and 'left' after one year to return back to...
...Tyrrell - Stayed with the team as it decayed and died before being fired when BAR stepped. He was responsible for the mono nose wing and other diabolical innovations... that basically involved sticking mini wings on in various places.
Next he headed for...
...Jordan - After resting on Anderson's 99 Jordan, a masterpiece, he designed the 00 challenger that, along with EJ's mismanagement killed them before 'leaving' for...
...Renault - In their biggest slump in a long time Gascoyne didn't do much to help. He was placed on 'gardening leave' for 2003 after which their results started to pick up until that famous first victory in 2003. Renault won their first title in 2005, Mike went to...
...Toyota - A team to whom design and micromanage mean the same thing. He designed their unimpressive 04 and 05 cars taking a step backwards from their 03 form before being sacked and heading for...
...Spyker - Oh dear. So Spyker left before they could sack him and he did a great job of rehashing the old Jordan he'd mutilated so many years before. They then became...
...Force India - Who weren't slow in sacking him.
Bruno Senna won't be going back to GP2 this year: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73122
Er, doesn't sound like the best career move ever with the chance of an F1 driver virtually zero?
New Skype is easily confused. If it sees a phone number on a website it highlights it and lets you click to call. So far so good. Except it thinks the date at the bottom of the doohickey is a phone number. I wonder how many people have tried to all dates, serial numbers and who knows what else.
hehe. wonder if it's the +0000?
In the end, that all that matters really.
He could know something that we don't for all we know, the Honda scene has been very quiet as of late. Seems a bit of a rash decision if no proper announcement about the team's buying out future ahs been made though perhaps.
I don't think he would gain anything by doing another season of GP2. He has proved he is competitive at that level and anything less than a dominant championship win would be seen as "proof" that he is really not that good.
It is not picking that up just 04 2009 18.
It has just highlighted the same sequence of numbers as soon as I typed them.
Anyway, Google Latitude: http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html
Allows you to view your friends’ locations and status messages on your mobile or PC. Good or bad idea? {Dank - 84 comments ago}
Hmm... It encourages some bad habits concerning internet anonymity, but it could also have uses for events organisers and the like. It's like many tools in that it could be used for good or evil depending on who uses it how. But at the very least, I think the default should be set to "Friends Only" rather than the usual "Everyone".
Not that I'm ever likely to use it since it'll probably require a Google login and I refuse to use a product that requires a login I cannot access.
I'd sooner take the risk if I were him. What else is he going to do with his time? Next to no testing in F1 or sit at home and watch Loose Women all day?
Umm... where will he go.
LMS / ALMS: Their drives are already locked up.
F1 Test: Locked up.
IRL: Is that a step too far back?
NASCAR: Don't know if he would do it, but the international PR alone would make it worth a few drives for one of teams.
Anything else... eehhh.
New surprise Toro Rosso driver?
Anyone here that has Grand Prix 3 and Vista - does it run on your system, and if so can you help? {Scott Woodwiss - 82 comments ago}
You may have a serious problem there. It's not a DOS game, so Microsoft's official advice to use DOSBox to get round the new programming won't help.
Does Vista have compatibility modes like XP does*? If so, try the "Windows 95" or "Windows 98" setting. If not, my lack of Vista means I cannot really help you short of suggesting a dual-boot system (and I don't know how to set one up because my brother got my computer to dual-boot).
* - XP's compatibility modes can be found by right-clicking the shortcut of the program you want to load, clicking on the "Compatibility" tab, check the "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" option and select which version of Windows you want the operating system to emulate. XP has options for Windows 95, Windows 98/ME, Windows 2000 and Windows NT 4.0. I don't know if anything like that is in Vista though.
btw Scott, a couple of people have replied to your questions on grandprixgames
That makes sense, but would they really go with two rookie drivers? If Honda folds, would that take Bruno over Jenson and Bourdais?
Fair point. Risky strategy it would be to hire him, I'm sure Toro Rosso are waiting to see what Honda does in terms of folding or not, if they do, I'm sure they'll get Senna or Button. If not, they'll get Taku or Bourdais
Why are STR delaying announcing their other driver anyway? Either they are giving Sato a chance to find sponsors to make up for those he lost or they want one of the Honda drivers. If they really want to target Japan Senna may be a good bet because his uncle was very popular there and he will probably get some spin-off benefit of that.
And I see the FIA are still insisting on dumbing-down F1 and treating fans like idiots! {Alex Harrington - 79 comments ago}
As far as I am concerned, Tony Purnell gave half of the best counter-argument in the article where he tried to convince us that cost-cutting through increased restriction is a good idea:
“But we’ll keep to a central philosophy that engineers work on things that are relevant to society”
If you believe F1 is a sport (which I suspect some at the FIA do not), then every part of the car and every part of the team is relevant to society, since they improve our understanding of how these things work, enhance the competition between organisations, entertain and have a "best of breed" role within both motor sport and the automotive industry. Therefore no part of the car can be restricted the way the FIA wants to restrict them.
I would also add that every time the FIA has increased restrictions, the price to compete has increased accordingly because money gets thrown into ever-smaller iterations of the same few areas. Creativity becomes less rewarding. F1 has been lucky these last two years because there have been several different driving techniques employed by the drivers with the car to compete for the championship and the leading drivers have all made errors. When they don't make errors, the problems with the current regulatory philosophy become all too apparent.
Ah excellent work there from Bassano
iPod Touch
Never mind on the GP3 Vista front. All sorted out :)
if you say so.
You got me all worked up about Ted's real name.
Ooops.
the last time that happened it resulted in a $100m fine. agreed the capped price was $0, but still. {me - 74 comments ago}
Brilliant riposte, me! In fact, making an official capped price could encourage information piracy through legitimising a channel through which the illegal copying could occur. By introducing a charge for such behaviour, it effectively legitimises it.
Please could someone send Tony Purnell a copy of Freakonomics, which explains the principle beautifully in the first two chapters?
“The team are already understood to have a logo”
They are practically race ready then. {Steven Roy quoting GMM story - 67 comments ago}
If the team are understood to have a logo, why isn't the design of the logo described? It can't be that much of a trade secret, unless they made it up of course.
The grounding strips are there to discharge any static electricity that has built up before the refuelling rig goes anywhere near the car. They're not there to stop you getting fried by KERS
I’ve been beavering away on chapter six of my booky wook. {Stuart C - 54 comments ago}
Sounds good :) .
By the way I am posting this doohicky comment into a doohicky that had been running at least since 20:53 last night. And it's still working!
Go Me!
how are the stats looking?
Impressively, only two RGs I'd assume
I think that people is going too far in the concerns about the security of KERS. Granted, is dangerous, it has high enough DC voltage and amperage to kill you if you take the terminals of the system with your hands, but road cars have had lead batteries for decades and nobody is jumping off his car because it started to rain. People around the car should start to be more careful, but unless there is something really wrong with the electrical system of the KERS unit it won't be more dangerous than a Prius, or looking at the engine of any normal car (that's regarding normal race and pit work, race accidents is another matter). And regarding the water in the pit floor: it's, by definition, grounded. It would be a problem only if the source of electricity was powerful enough to sustain a huge current drain for a lot of time.
Departing from established GMM practice, I’ll ask PW… {Stuart C - 46 comments ago}
Sounds like a good plan. You'd think if Peter was seriously considering setting up a F1 team, he'd know something about, even if he would prefer not to go on the record on such a topic (last time he tried setting up a team way back when, Max Mosley dissuaded him, according to the interview he did in the November 2005 edition of F1 Racing).
You got the moderation queue trying to grab some attention?
wow. i did not know that...
Road car batteries are 12 volts not 100s of volts.
Interesting that so many of these retail businesses were lured into “sweating their assets” (i.e. selling their shops and then leasing them back) that they now have few concrete assets left… {Stuart C - 41 comments ago}
Also interesting that retired people have been encouraged to do the same for the last few years. I wonder how many of them will be in trouble now the economy's dropped flat on its face?
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Daily: 3rd February 2009 46
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Episode 92 - Fit to Race 3
F1 Websites You Can Trust 44
Why does it go from capitals to lower case, ie
S
g?
blimey!
ooh, good point. must be the sorting method.
Super congrats. 53 mins until 24 hrs!
The man himself says this story sounds like the product of a very slow news day… {Stuart C - 34 comments ago}
:D I'll take that as a "No" to him leading a USF1 team in 2010. Must be flattering that people consider him a possible candidate, since they're obviously not stating this on availability grounds but on what they think he could bring to the job.
What kills you is the total amount of energy that goes trough your body, 50Amps of 12V will also kill you (actually, high current is more dangerous than high voltage). KERS batteries can be more dangerous in the sense that they are designed to give a lot of energy in a sustained way for several seconds, but IMHO not more dangerous than a fully charged car battery handled improperly
Just had a look at the new RedBulletin which LPG helpfully found abandoned in town today. Bit disappointed by the lack of F1 stuff in it.
Force India and USF1? Wouldn’t that be getting a bit too A1GP? {Dom - 64 comments ago*}
I saw some A1GP yesterday morning and it was great fun. Though I think India and the USA need to improve their A1GP skills before turning F1 into a clone of it...
* - I updated my comment count when I noticed that I was under threat of having {Commenter A - -13 comments ago}...
huh?
allen thinks max is going nowhere: {me - 55 comments ago}
Typical but predictable.
‘Parantly they are intresting in getting none other than Mike Gascoyne, or probably a strange coincedence he is looking to move over to the US of A. {R.G. - 50 comments ago}
That's the classic "string everyone who might possibly be available and some people who are not in one big sticky conspiracy" tactic for creating "news". Or maybe it should be "boreds".
Absolutely, but we don't need too many teams representing countries in other racing series, least of all F1, do we?
:)
Don't worry, by the time if ever the USF1 team launches, it will be The Coca Cola USF1 team presented by Microsoft and Bank of America.
I know this is all heresay, but the rumors of this news actually has me excited. See, we haven't had an F1 team that had a chance since Penske left back in the 70's. You can call it grasping for staws, I call it looking for ray of sunshine.
“roy for president, roy for president” {me - 40 comments ago}
Yes! That would be a great plan.
If only it were possible...
That sounds like a Facebook group waiting to happen.
yeeeees!
I was planning the Jarno Trulli appreciation society, but currently thats a great idea
if anyone's interested, the guys and gals from pitlane fanatic are hosting a quiz here:
http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/chat.php
hopefully they won't mind a quick plug. anyone fancy joining / laughing at me?
Sure why not.
Some one posted this [Gascoyne career summary] off another forum which he got from another forum {R.G. - 35 comments ago}
To be fair, Gascoyne's best skill is in reorganising departments. It takes a year or two for the effects to come through due to the effects of group behavioural intertia. This is why the relatively short tenures he has are rarely enough for him to take the credit for his organisational work.
Also, the 1999 Jordan was partly Gascoyne's work. Gary Anderson had the initial idea but left before Spa 1998, too early to have finished the design work. So it's a composite Anderson/Gascoyne effort, with Anderson doing the high concept work and Gascoyne a lot of the details. Which may explain why Jordan never managed to design anything as good again (the next time Jordan attempted to get two lead designers to design the same car was the disastrous EJ13 and I believe the division of effort was different on that project).
The grounding strips are there to discharge any static electricity that has built up before the refuelling rig goes anywhere near the car. They’re not there to stop you getting fried by KERS {Andy Taylor - 11 comments ago}
The extra electricity in that case would exit the car through the same principle. Electricity, in general, takes the shortest route to the ground. Static electricity is just electricity that can't find a route to ground because it is in a material that acts as a strong insulator.
Road car batteries are 12 volts not 100s of volts. {Steven Roy - 25 comments ago*}
Also, road cars have Faraday cages, which give the electricity somewhere to go. I don't think F1 cars have such things (since to make a Faraday cage would necessitate some sort of roof).
* - Had to do a recount again. In this case it would have been {Steven Roy - -10 comments ago} otherwise. What's happening is that everyone else is commenting with such rapidity that my counting system isn't keeping up and needs correcting every so often.
oooh, ok. hehe.
try doohickeying.
Absolutely, but we don’t need too many teams representing countries in other racing series, least of all F1, do we? {Dom - 13 comments ago}
True. For the same reason as we don't need too many manufacturers in F1. Oops, sorry, that's already happened.
try doohickeying. {me - 2 comments ago}
Then I have no comment box...
right hand side. says "reply" in green beside each individual comment.
Yeah, but the Faraday cage only protects you when you are inside the car and the source is outside it (against a lighting or an accidental grounding of the battery while driving, for example). If you grab the terminals of the battery while you are outside the cage it will harm you really badly (also if you are inside the cage, but normally you don't carry the battery with you ;-) )
we really gotta sort that.
I know - it's just that the grounding strip does the job of discharging the electricity as the car comes to a halt, I don't think that the car stays grounded because it gets jacked up to change the tyres/wheels.
An idea I like is you have a comment box at the top, and some tabs which select where you can post in which thread
I think that the strips flex-up enough to touch the car at any moment, even if it's lifted.
Road cars don't have Faraday cages, they are Faraday cages. The metal of the car provides the shortest path to Earth this directing the current around the occupant. At the high voltages of a lightning strike, the tyres do not act as insulators and the current will flow through the rubber to Earth.
I would guess that a lightning strike on the bodywork of an F1 car would be directed through the car to Earth, but I wouldn't want to try it :)
might need a drawing for that?
Gimmie to the end of the quiz
R.G - Are you Gaulty on GrandPrixGames.org? If so, are there any tips you could give me on car setup on GP3. I tried everything I knew but the handling on the car doesn't seem to be getting that much better.
To have a Faraday cage you need to have a closed space (that's why it is a 'cage'). The idea of a Faraday cage is not only that it conducts electricity to ground, but also that the inside of the 'cage' is completely shielded (electrically speaking) from the outside: no electric field outside the cage have any affect inside it. An open car doesn't have that protection, although is still safer to be in the car in case of lighting for the conduction thing you mentioned...
Yes I am Gaulty on GrandPrixGames. I'll be fair, I don't have GP3.
Scott, care to share with us what the problem was with getting GP3 working and how you fixed it?
Sure. I just installed the patch and then installed the no-CD patch, but then run the game off the disc. Strange I know, but it's working now. It does still occasionally crash back to the desktop but apart from that it works great :D Brings back memories, and now I have a proper PC gamepad it's even better.
Where's the wheel? GP3 must be really difficult without one...
Money, or rather the lack of. It's not that difficult actually, just like I'm playing on the 360 since the Logitech pad I have is virtually the same as the XBOX one.
The doohicky has exceeded the 24 hours thing now... I wonder how long it can go?
Anyone like to make a prediction?
27 hrs and 32 minutes
who owns a browser that hasn't crashed in 24 hours?
He must be cheating ... or running linux?
ahhh.
In the meantime, this book on the mind of the Grand Prix driver is fascinating. I've just read a part about Karl Wendlinger and how he used concentration exercises to help him mentally drive a lap of a circuit. It talks about when he was testing for Sauber at Mugello and the night before he wanted to do a 1'30.4 lap time. So he "drove" a lap in his head timing himself on a stopwatch and it turned out he'd mentally done a 1'30.4. The next day he drove for real and actually did a 1'30.4. Amazing.
I had a thought today that you would need to be quite careful which driver's mind you tried to get inside.
Google Chrome Baby!
Ahem.
I do actually actively love Chrome in the way I love my mac. It's a very strong thing.
i miss chrome, i can't seem to run it on my laptop atm without the whole thing crashing (looong story).
It is far more likely that Vista will go down before Chrome or the doohicky do!
one thing that bugs me? rss feeds no display prop.
:D
Why are you reading raw rss feeds?
why aren't you?
I use a reader... I just went and looked and you're right. Odd. I'm not in the latest beta stream so they may have fixed this.
me neither. i do hope so.
I used it for one day until I found it was using twice the RAM memory FF3 did with the same tabs open. That plus speed at opening pages and poor customization options meant FF3 is still my browser. I'll give it a try again in some months...
A lot of drivers, bobsleigh drivers etc can do that
Speed seems to be faster in Chrome for me. But memory may suck. I'm not sure and it's hard to test for me.
customisation is killer, agreed.
Firefox still rules for me :)
I'm cream crackered after that quiz. I'll get an rg-diagram done soon
me too, no rush sir. thanks for joining :)
Speed may vary depending on the sites, big Java sites tend to favor Chrome, it seems. My FF3 stays around 120-150Mb independently of the number of tabs, Chrome used something like 20-30Mb per tab...
What needs customising really?
- adblock, flashbock, scriptblock
- the cool css hack that makes batracer bearable
- amazon ec2 is managed from a firefox plugin
Sorry that sounds overly confrontational. I'm curious really.
In other news, the Race Pro demo is apparently going onto the Marketplace this Friday. Can't wait! :D
There's a way to make batracer bareable? I'm in!
I like to use this site for sim racing news and mod developments.
http://www.virtualr.net/
Besides the 'cool things' and some really helpful extensions in the day to day work, ad-bloking and control over which images load or not (ImgLikeOpera) are a must when you have low bandwidth
rg-diagram to show idea
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/rgdiagram-jpg
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/03/daily-3rd-january-2009/#comment-170903
ahh okay. me has a think.
Drop.io integration works perfectly on iphone :)
w00t!
may need your help when it comes to testing uploading. not sure the itouch supports it.
I expect the iPod Touch will work just fine though.
:)
it doesn't take photos.
Andy and I may threaten with a commenters strike if you continue to blaspheme
oh.
Cool happy to help, although apart from a mic I didn't know there was any difference once you were into wifi connection.
Ps. I know about location services but coca layer will just return you the wifi location approx so the software should be okay.
No, but you can send photos from the photo album.
:D
Ah yes photos!
not got that far. i mean drop.io uploading from doohickey.
i have a photo album?
*sings* get out with an 'i.t.' yeah you know me!
Yes sorry I just was covering myself in case somebody rubbished my claim that they were the same except the mic.
Yes, standard app - sync photos from iPhoto (Mac) or a specified folder (Windows). iTunes resizes the photos so that they don't take up too much space. You can zoom in and out just like on Safari.
yet you missed the 3g connection?
ahh, me no use iphoto. might have to start.
I really want Andy to put on a black polo neck and record a video explaining this to Me. Who's in favour? ;)
GPS receiver and Bluetooth are also missing on the iPod Touch, but the second generation model does have built in Nike+ receiver and will work with the new headphones with microphone, so you can record audio.
me!
I think you can also specify a folder on the disk.
Ah no, that's why I said, "once you're on a wifi connection".
Hi, I'm John. I work in one our retail stores....
adobe bridge.
comes with fireworks cs3.
Wouldn't that be great? :)
i see. but doohickey... it be designed for 3g. from silverstone.
:) Me is welcome to come to my workshop on Saturday.
you do workshops? every saturday? we may have to visit.
I remember someone telling me they had a program for their Nokia N95 that shared the 3G connection out via wifi and they used it with their iPod Touch and laptop
Okay. Well then I'm happy to test. In fact this giggles tour has been doing a bit of that.
The last 10 comments from me or more have been from iPhone (on wifi) but that really works.
Every day in every Apple store. Check our website for details. You might find there's a different store nearer to you.
I feel left out :-(
iChat?
you're in every store?
r.g. and i tied on the pitlanefanatic quiz!
Sshhh Andy - the cloning machine hasn't been announced to the public yet!
:)
The workshops happen in every store, I don't present them all.
but we don't want to see any old workshop...
It was that damn spot the difference and I woulda beat you
that was all that saved me.
:D
f1 knowledge... nah?
looking at pretty pictures = easy :)
So Andy. You have a mac in front of you, it clearly has a camera in it. You must own a black turtleneck. I think I really need to see that video on drop.io
By all means :) taylor dot andy at mac dot com
video, video, video.
PMSL.
:( ,damn that round 15
just discovered christine was cheating on identica!
Uh oh they are the iPod people ;)
Hehe
oh.my.god
i didn't have it open. sneaky woman. she even nicked my assistant.
Hey, Steven Roy said it was helping!!
that's what they all say, then the next thing you know you're hooked on f1 quizzes.
It would be alright if it said 'mrs christine + steven roy' but it didn't. At least you technically didn't send your answers in then ;)
Check
Check
Nope
I conveniently don't have an iPod Touch to demonstrate with.
Steven Roy (if that is his real name) really is behind everything isn't he? Like some kind of Scottish Mafia boss!
:D
:D
Nope - no black polonecks in this house that would fit adults.
His one and only one was something that, um, left one day (whistles innocently) when he was in his 'skinnier than SJ is now' phase... (i.e. really really not well :-( )
He suits v necks much much more (in my humble opinion that is...lol)
The first hint was sent to someone else in sidepodcast towers but he ignored it
That is my name
i can't do two things at once!
I hope Christine won the quiz since I helped with two questions
He's a good man
Oh...
If she did win, a stewards enquiry is likely to demote her to second with a 5 place penalty for the start of the next quiz.
A video of the real Andy and his iPod Touch:
http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/guidedtour/
She didn't send her answers in.
Thanks Jeremy.
She works for McLaren now?
:D
speaking of the quiz who was the driver with the artificial leg? Was it Alan Stacey as i suggested?
Anytime Hann... Andy :-)
Yes, I said Zanardi
I demand a recount
Yes you were right
It gets funnier, someone (possibly me, was me) may have said Fiji instead of Fuji...
You should have a go next time. You'll find it easy :)
yay! :) so reading an f1 fact book during the summer holidays was not totally a waste of time then :) anyway, much still to do/decide/ think about tonight, should really be doing that, speak later. x
iClone is used widely to describe fake iPods
night lou and might as well go myself, ciao
I think I would have struggled with some of it. I missed the first lot of questions and was away from my PC a lot of the time which was why you got batches of info. Some of the questions I had no idea about.
night all.
I was surprised you had even heard of Alan Stacey since he died in 1968.
Goodnight. Wait. It's still Wednesday and you're going to bed? Early start?
no no, that for r.g and lou. am here.
:-D
(jolly shocked Christine been getting help)
Stacey was killed during the 1960 Belgian Grand Prix, at Spa-Francorchamps, when he crashed at 120 m.p.h. after being hit in the face by a bird on lap 25, while lying in sixth place with his Lotus.[3] Stacey was driving the same type of Lotus as Stirling Moss was nearly killed in the previous day.[4]
He went off the road on the inside of a fast curve. The inside of a turn is where great forces push a car out. Stacey's Lotus climbed an embankment that was waist-high. It penetrated ten feet of thick hedges and fell into a field.[5] He died within a few minutes of Chris Bristow who was driving a Cooper entry which belonged to the Yeoman Credit team. The two Englishmen were killed only a few hundred feet apart, on the same right hand bend where Moss crashed the previous day. Moss came away with broken legs, three broken ribs, and a broken nose.[3] In a mid-1980s edition of Road and Track Magazine, Stacey's friend and teammate Innes Ireland wrote a touching article about Stacey's death, in which he stated that some spectators claimed that a bird had flown into Stacey's face while he was approaching the curve, possibly knocking him unconscious, or even possibly killing him by breaking his neck, before the car crashed.[6]
Damn, thought you might be off to watch some more testing or other similar activites.
Stacey was described as quiet and gregarious. His driving was conservative according to one observer.[3] He had an artificial leg and conspired with his team mates to fool medical examinations for Le Mans. He would cross his legs with the real leg on top as the doctor checked his reflexes. His teammates would then cough violently. Stacey would uncross his legs and then recross them when the doctor turned back to him with the good leg still on top. He used a motorcycle twistgrip on the gear lever to adjust the engine speed during downshifts, because he could not "heel and toe".
hahahaha.
You could have just posted the link to the WIkipedia page ;)
Nah, that's too easy and I didn't want to post all of it...
in fairness.
a clever way of avoiding mod queue.
What's wrong with posting the clip from the article?
:)
Nothing I guess.
OK then. I guess you're right, it was a rather large chunk...
Good night all :-)
other than open source wiki-stuff it might get us into trouble.
night.
OOPS. 1960 not 68.
good night all (going home where I don't have internet, yet...)
aww. soon though?
goodnght.
'soon' was almost a month ago. still waiting for the company to come...
damn :(
the internet needs to be classed as a utility. it's as important to us as electricity.
ADSL takes 10 working days minimum. If you book it for an exhibition stand at venues that don't offer alternatives, you have to order a phone line in advance of the show, then pay extra for the master socket to be relocated to your stand.
axis just dug this nugget out of the archives from last july:
"Haas CNC racing is funded by machine tool magnate Gene Haas, who is currently in jail for tax evasion."
"It is speculated that Haas may move on from NASCAR and could be the man to help bankroll the rumoured American F1 Honda team. Haas is also the owner of the Wind Shear windtunnel in Charlotte and employs Ken Anderson, the man who is tipped to be heading the F1 team."
linky: http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/2008/07/formula-1-rumor-roundup.html
on his personal blog, joe's sceptical:
"In the cynical world of Formula 1 no-one is expecting any new teams to come marching into the sport."
more linky: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/an-american-formula-1-team/
the questions that remain though, is why did these rumours resurface today and who is gaining from them?
max clearly listens to sidepodchat. on the subject of fred goodwin taking his role at the fia, he had this to say:
"The interesting thing is where it could have come from. It has to be someone with some kind of connection to F1. He's got to have some connection with Scotland. He's got to have no understanding of how F1 or the FIA work, and he has to be unusually stupid. There's at least one person who ticks all those boxes."
he forgot to credit mr. roy though :(
full text: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/4516234/FIA-president-Max-Mosley-to-stand-for-re--election.html
Where did you read that then?
refresh. i edited the comment after posting.
Ah. Love the opening paragraph:
'After a year which he described as "painful, particularly for my wife" Mosley said that he had plenty of support from within the organisation, who govern world motorsport.'
I thought it was supposed to be most painful for Max.
Does he mean who I think he means? Initials JYS?
that's exactly what steven said, yes. he was the first person to suggest it as far as i know.
thinking about it, it might have even been the week before on the debrief show. might have to try and dig it out.
So it's his fault then. :)
:D
:D
Drum roll please...
FOTA AND MAX!!!
It shows that Max's (unrealistic) proposed cost cutting measures are bringing interest into the sport again from teams and investors.
It also shows FOTA in a positive light of wanting more teams in the sport. It is also a carrot to the US companies and advertisers that they care enough to that they would allow another team in.
You forgot Bernie.
i hear ya. it also helps bernie though, and i'm not sure that's max's agenda right now is it?
Nice to see that I am being talked about when I am not here. As usual Max's logic is flawed even if I believe he has finally arrived at the right answer. Why would it need to be someone from Scotland who is behind this. Sir Fred Goodwin operates all over the world and has bought companies in several countries.
:)
i would assume so that everybody was clear who he meant.
There's only one thing worse...
Just saying that the person needs to be an idiot would be leaving the field a bit too open :)
Being talked about when I am here ? :D
Not being talked about at all.....
Why cant the Telegraph say where and when Mosley was speaking?
I think it will be a lot more then speculation on a potential US F1 team to repair the damage of Indy 2002 and Indy 2005... but at least it is a start.
From everything I've read today, it was the teams who gave their blessings to this idea. Stepping on Bernie's toes perhaps?
Well no... ...the person would have to be a rich, gullible, smooth-talking, well-connected idiot...
*takes cynical hat off*
That would be revealing too much ;)
Ah guess this is where he was
"Asked at a lunch with journalists on Wednesday if he had the power to protect a British round, the FIA president said: “I can’t." http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45054&PO=45054
I've no idea, but clicking the link under the article took me to the F1 page. Second story was on ugly cars in F1 complete with a list:
2009 Ferrari F60
1972 Eiffelland
1972 March 721X
1976 Tyrrell P34
1979 Ferrari 312T4
Didn't we cover this recently? Or was that the prettiest cars?
I've decided I don't like the doohickey. Not only do I struggle to see the reply buttons, but it makes it harder for me to track the quoting. Hence why my two most recent comments make no sense.
true. i can't be a secret because james told us earlier.
Poissonerie de l’Avenue, in South Kensington, London :)
understood at least you tried it.
It will be the same lunch James Allen was discussing in his blog.
who owns a browser that hasn’t crashed in 24 hours? {me}
Opera has never crashed on my computer, but then again I don't think I've run it for 24 hours (continuously or otherwise).
The interesting thing is where it could have come from. It has to be someone with some kind of connection to F1. He’s got to have some connection with Scotland. He’s got to have no understanding of how F1 or the FIA work, and he has to be unusually stupid. There’s at least one person who ticks all those boxes. {Max Mosley}
There probably is. The trouble is that we haven't heard of him (unless it's Tom Walkinshaw, but I'm not convinced he's as stupid as Max makes out)!
I thought it was supposed to be most painful for Max. {Andy Taylor}
Well, it went wrong when it got reported, didn't it? That wasn't in Max's plan at all...
Phew! I completed my public BTCC game with one minute to spare...
Thanks guys
Just reading JA's blog from the meeting = half a dozen "news" stories doing the rounds
understood at least you tried it. {me}
It was worth a try. And you did say a few months back that it could come in handy during practise commentary...
It's Jackie Stewart that Max is having a go at. He is a long time associate of Goodwin's and in his book there is a chapter on people who have helped him and Goodwin gets a page or two.
if there's anything we can do to make quoting easier for you just yell.
It’s Jackie Stewart that Max is having a go at. {Steven Roy - 2 comments ago}
It might be, but Jackie has too much intelligence and too much understanding of how the FIA works to qualify under the criteria Max has laid out. So he's merely misdirecting people in that case. I wonder how long it will take before he realises his error?
if there’s anything we can do to make quoting easier for you just yell. {me - 2 comments ago}
Will do!
it is jackie... it just is.
Besides, there's no way Jackie would do anything so underhand as what Max attempted to suggest.
rofl :-D
:D
:-) which Jackie are we talking about - We know two from Scotland
ahhhhh, good question.
;)
I need to go to bed. Night all.
see ya andy :)
now, where'd i put me, ipod...
me too
Good night
Big thanks for taking part in quiz
much enjoyment. night jolly.
Max is just re-hashing his comments a about JYS being a certified idiot and no-one in F1 pays any attention to him.
Typical childish Max.
which Jackie are we talking about - We know two from Scotland {jolly - 7 comments ago}
I don't think either of the Jackies I know qualifies for being the actual culprit ;) It's probably still the one-woman-and-her-husband conspiracy that Max refuses to see.
Max is just re-hashing his comments a about JYS being a certified idiot and no-one in F1 pays any attention to him. {Steven Roy - 2 comments ago}
Maybe they don't pay attention because they secretly think that such comments are themselves idiotic ;)
Toyota and Williams diffusers legal
http://tinyurl.com/an34tv
"The two teams are understood to have taken advantage of a loophole in the regulations regarding extra bodywork not intended for diffusers."
this won't be the first or last bodywork regulation controversy of the year, will it?
Good for them, I hope Ferrari & MacLaren haven't been waiting in the wings and are ready to roll their's out too :)
Stir it up a bit
(Were there any technical partner discussions on this subject between them?)
just testing, please ignore:
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/quiz-spot-the-difference-png
I think other teams will struggle to rush out their versions of the diffuser because they would need to re-design their rear crash structure and that is more complex than re-designing the diffuser.
"The Gravel Trap is (or was) written by a fellow called Robert Sinfield. When news broke that ITV were relinquishing the F1 contract he started hawking it about to all and sundry, including F1R. At around the same time he appeared on a forum slagging the magazine off! How we laughed."
Guilty - or mostly. 'The Gravel Trap' was 'hawked about' as you put it - I have the school fees to pay old chap. Don't recall slagging F1R off in a forum though - big fan of the magazine despite the constantly dodgy front covers...
Rob Sinfield