It's the 3rd of December as the countdown to Christmas continues. Another countdown to note: It's 100 days until the season starting Bahrain Grand Prix. On a sad note, I'd like to highlight the 25th anniversary of the Bhopal disaster if for no other reason than a lot of people seem to have never heard of it or forgotten about it despite having killed thousands and still effecting many lives 25 years on. A moving collection of pictures at Boston.com's Big Picture tells the story.

  • In F1, it's the final day of Formula 1 action for 2009 as the teams complete their Young Driver's test. However, one place the teams don't look like heading any time soon is France as yesterday plans for the proposed Flins-Mureaux circuit were officially confined to the scrap-heap. Throwing in the matter of Christian Horner bringing up the subject of engine parity and it'll be interesting to see exactly what Thursday Thoughts will be upfor discussion later today.
  • Talking of Thursday Thoughts, Joe Saward yesterday instigated something of a Wednesday Musings as he pondered the state of Formula 1 at a time that an air of doom and gloom lingers around the sport in the wake of economic and political crises. Half-full or half-empty he asks? I've always been of a mind that the glass was over-designed for the job in hand but Joe raises some good points as always and suggests F1 is doing fine with some room for improvement.
  • And finally, spare a thought for the Italian policemen who crashed the force's prized Lamborghini Gallardo.

That'll do for now. You can keep up with Jackie and myself over at PitlaneFanatic where our advent calendar review of the year might just find a buyer for Honda at some point today (I won't give away who buys them just yet). That just leaves one final thing, and I've always wanted to say this... see you in the comments.

656 responses

  • lou03/12/2009 at 00:05

    before i head off to sleep i just wanted to say great post Maverick :).

    oh and there are now 99 days of the off season left :) heheh

    night all! xx

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:05

    What happened to autoping?

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:06

    Night Lou

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:06

    Night Lou

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:06

    Giggles Advent calendar is on time

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 00:06

    "That just leaves one final thing, and I've always wanted to say this... see you in the comments."

    :-) Good post Mav.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:06

    oh and there are now 99 days of the off season left :) heheh

    well 97 if you take off free practice and quali

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 00:07

    night all! xx

    night!

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:09

    "That just leaves one final thing, and I've always wanted to say this... see you in the comments."

    :-) Good post Mav.

    Thanks

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 00:09

    I'd never heard of Bhopal, terrible.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:09

    I like the idea of Bhopal getting a mention in the daily.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:12

    I'd never heard of Bhopal, terrible.

    I'm always surprised by how few have, plenty of people have heard of Chernobyl

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:14

    I'm always surprised by how few have, plenty of people have heard of Chernobyl

    Nuclear is bigger news than chemical

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:16

    Nuclear is bigger news than chemical

    There was a report a while ago suggesting the number of deaths at Chernobyl was less than 50

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:17

    There was a report a while ago suggesting the number of deaths at Chernobyl was less than 50

    Difficult to assess the impact of either disaster in terms of casualties

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:20

    Difficult to assess the impact of either disaster in terms of casualties

    No. I think it was the general air of incompetence surrounding Bhopal that was more worrying.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:21

    There was a report a while ago suggesting the number of deaths at Chernobyl was less than 50

    Difficult to assess the impact of either disaster in terms of casualties

    Immediate victims maybe but long term victims may be many, many times more.

    I worked in the Ukraine in the early 90s and was told that because of the residual radiation no-one including the police could go into the area. THe only people who did were growing poppies with heads the size of dinner plates because they could afford absolutely the best nuclear suits.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:22

    No. I think it was the general air of incompetence surrounding Bhopal that was more worrying.

    It was more avoidable than Chernobyl

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 00:34

    Just read Christian Horners interview in autosport. Bit of a worry for RBR if Renault do pull out. If they have to Jam a Cosworth or a Fezza engine in the back of a car that Newey will obviously wrap tighter than a fat girls sock they will be all over the show, and you may as well chalk up less than 5 podiums for the year. I feel for the drivers. They have to be the most charismatic and down to earth pairing i can remember

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:37

    If Renault pull out or sell-up, I can see them still supplying engines

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:39

    Just read Christian Horners interview in autosport. Bit of a worry for RBR if Renault do pull out. If they have to Jam a Cosworth or a Fezza engine in the back of a car that Newey will obviously wrap tighter than a fat girls sock they will be all over the show, and you may as well chalk up less than 5 podiums for the year. I feel for the drivers. They have to be the most charismatic and down to earth pairing i can remember

    I don't really believe they'll leave it anywhere near that late to make a decision. The situation should be clear in one or two weeks time.

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 00:44

    I hope so. very much! But i agree with Clapper. Renault seem to be the type of company that would still supply engines at a minimum. They have a rich recent history in F1

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:45

    I hope so. very much! But i agree with Clapper. Renault seem to be the type of company that would still supply engines at a minimum. They have a rich recent history in F1

    The problem is that Carlos ghosn the top guy at Renault would only supply engines if he could make a profit from it.

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 00:47

    Yes. I heard the Joe Saward podcast, and what he had to say about Ghosn was interesting,and as a RBR fan, a real concern. "le cost cutter"

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:47

    I hope so. very much! But i agree with Clapper. Renault seem to be the type of company that would still supply engines at a minimum. They have a rich recent history in F1

    More to the point, they're already designed and built them - they've already made the major financial input into them

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 00:48

    Thats right, and pulling out when the overheads are low because of the freeze would be commercial suicide

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:48

    More to the point, they're already designed and built them - they've already made the major financial input into them

    The facility just has to break even to be worth it. Even in marketing terms it's still a huge asset, especially if RBR continue to shine

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 00:49

    long day, best get to bed... catch you tomorrow

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:49

    Goodnight Pat

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 00:50

    I've been using the LCLT tonight, thought you'd all run off!

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:50

    The problem is that Carlos ghosn the top guy at Renault would only supply engines if he could make a profit from it.

    As a simple monetary benefit, they might be able to.

    I think it would be low cost advertising if it was marginal.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:51

    I've been using the LCLT tonight, thought you'd all run off!

    :-D

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:51

    I've been using the LCLT tonight, thought you'd all run off!

    There was a ping, you must've missed it

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:51

    Thats right, and pulling out when the overheads are low because of the freeze would be commercial suicide

    Not necessarily. There is a fixed price they have to offer the engines for and that may not cover the cost of running an engine program for one customer.

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 00:51

    Just a question, how do i include the quote of teh person im replying to like the rest of yas do?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 00:52

    Just a question, how do i include the quote of teh person im replying to like the rest of yas do?

    sidepodcast.com/realtime

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:52

    Night Pat

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 00:52

    sidepodcast.com/realtime

    select the thread you want from the drop down box, then click reply and then click on whatever someones said to quote it

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:52

    Just a question, how do i include the quote of teh person im replying to like the rest of yas do?

    How are you commenting, Real Time or Live Commenting?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 00:52

    Night Pat

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 00:52

    How are you commenting, Real Time or Live Commenting?

    I should think ye olde

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 00:52

    I've been using the LCLT tonight, thought you'd all run off!

    Only as far as Thursday

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 00:53

    Only as far as Thursday

    OH NO

    thursdays a bad day

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 00:53

    Just a question, how do i include the quote of teh person im replying to like the rest of yas do?

    If you are using http://www.sidepodcast.com/realtime/ just click on the part you want to quote

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 00:58

    Thanks for the advice guys. My browser doesnt support that action. Im at work, and we have some antiquated government blocks etc. So will use it when im at home.

    thanks again tho

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 00:59

    thanks again tho

    Anytime

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 01:00

    Anytime

    Realtime

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 01:03

    Thanks for the advice guys. My browser doesnt support that action. Im at work, and we have some antiquated government blocks etc. So will use it when im at home.

    thanks again tho

    In the normal comments all you have to do is copy and paste the bit you want to quote and put

    at the start and

    at the end. You have to make sure there are no spaces between the or between the text you want to quote and the blockquote command.

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 01:03

    I'll start a fight here,then go to lunch LOL, WHO IS THE FASTEST DRIVER OUT THERE NOW?

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 01:04

    Thanks for the advice guys. My browser doesnt support that action. Im at work, and we have some antiquated government blocks etc. So will use it when im at home.

    thanks again tho

    In the normal comments all you have to do is copy and paste the bit you want to quote and put

    at the start and

    at the end. You have to make sure there are no spaces between the or between the text you want to quote and the blockquote command.

    Ignore that comment. Trouble with trying to explain it is that it quotes stuff.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 01:04

    I'll start a fight here,then go to lunch LOL, WHO IS THE FASTEST DRIVER OUT THERE NOW?

    Out there now?

    I am, i could run round Jerez and be faster than all the cars out there

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 01:04

    I'll start a fight here,then go to lunch LOL, WHO IS THE FASTEST DRIVER OUT THERE NOW?

    Lewis. Fight over

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 01:06

    Take 2

    In the normal comments all you have to do is copy and paste the bit you want to quote and put at the start and at the end. You have to make sure there are no spaces between the or between the text you want to quote and the block quote command.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 01:06

    In the normal comments all you have to do is copy and paste the bit you want to quote and put at the start and at the end. You have to make sure there are no spaces between the or between the text you want to quote and the block quote command.

    Preview button monsiour Roy?

  • Chris03/12/2009 at 01:08

    I'll start a fight here,then go to lunch LOL, WHO IS THE FASTEST DRIVER OUT THERE NOW?

    Fastest? Vettel. Needs to work on his mistakes sometimes though...

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 01:09

    Yay, my James Allen On F1 just came!

    Oh, and hello everybody.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 01:09

    In the normal comments all you have to do is copy and paste the bit you want to quote and put at the start and at the end. You have to make sure there are no spaces between the or between the text you want to quote and the block quote command.

    Failed again. Read the newbie manual. I can't find the link to it. Does anyone know?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 01:09

    Yay, my James Allen On F1 just came!

    Was trying to work out why the post arrived at 1am, but then realised...

    Oh, and hello everybody.

    howdy hey neighbourino

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 01:09

    Steven Roy. . . That was a quick fight, and i couldn't agree more. He really is incredible. I just finish reading his book "my story" i was surprised at how good it was actually.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 01:09

    Preview button monsiour Roy?

    I don't believe it exists. Publish and be damned

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 01:10

    Failed again. Read the newbie manual. I can't find the link to it. Does anyone know?

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/about/new-to-sidepodcast-quick-start-guide/

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 01:10

    Failed again. Read the newbie manual. I can't find the link to it. Does anyone know?

    Bottom of the home page

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/about/new-to-sidepodcast-quick-start-guide/

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 01:10

    Was trying to work out why the post arrived at 1am, but then realised...

    Heh. I actually think it may have been there for couple of hours though, the parcel was under my doormat and may have been there since before I woke up.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 01:11

    Hey Sean

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 01:11

    Failed again. Read the newbie manual. I can't find the link to it. Does anyone know?

    http://www.sid...st-quick-start-guide/

    Read that Bill. It will make your life here a lot easier and help you understand a lot of things we say. If you think there is anything that should be added to it post a comment and Christine will pick it up and add it.

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 01:15

    Hey Sean

    Hello.

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 01:20

    Thanks again steven. Will have a crack at home tonight. im sure i'll figure it out. After all im an F1 nutter so that autmatically makes me intelligent. :-)

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 01:22

    Thanks again steven. Will have a crack at home tonight. im sure i'll figure it out. After all im an F1 nutter so that autmatically makes me intelligent. :-)

    Anything you want to know just ask. There is always someone around who will help

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 01:30

    gee, tehre isnt much fight about the fastest. seems lewis is the popular choice judging by the lack of retorts

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 01:30

    gee, tehre isnt much fight about the fastest. seems lewis is the popular choice judging by the lack of retorts

    that and the fact that its 1.30am

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 01:32

    that and the fact that its 1.30am

    For most of you.

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 01:32

    12.30 pm here. need more vampires on the stream then

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 01:33

    12.30 pm here. need more vampires on the stream then

    Here also. You an Aussie?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 01:33

    For most of you.

    shhh

    Im off to sleep. Got a lovely presentation in 6.5 hours. If that goes well then bring on teh weekend! :D

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 01:34

    Im off to sleep. Got a lovely presentation in 6.5 hours. If that goes well then bring on teh weekend! :D

    Good luck. I have to go to Brisbane this weekend...

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 01:35

    Yeah mate. im in tassie. Where are you? wish i was in Brissy tho

  • Chris03/12/2009 at 01:35

    12.30 pm here. need more vampires on the stream then

    I'm off to bed. Work in the morning.

    Here's a vampire for you though :-[

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 01:35

    Yeah mate. im in tassie. Where are you? wish i was in Brissy tho

    Sydney.

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 01:42

    Dont get to meet many F1 fans down here. press covereage is poor. thanks god for sites like this

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 01:45

    Dont get to meet many F1 fans down here. press covereage is poor. thanks god for sites like this

    Checlk out the listener's map

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Listener+Map

    or

    http://platial.com/map/Sidepodcast-s-Listeners/594335/

    We've a few Aussies and Kiwi's here

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 01:52

    Good night guys

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 01:53

    Good night guys

    Night.

  • Joe in Fla03/12/2009 at 01:59

    Hello all!

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 02:01

    Hello all!

    Hello Joe.

  • Joe in Fla03/12/2009 at 02:02

    Hey, not much going on?

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 02:02

    Hey, not much going on?

    Not really. It's 2am in Sidepodland so most people are sleeping. As for me, nope. You?

  • Joe in Fla03/12/2009 at 02:04

    No, just at work, had dinner and bored

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 02:05

    No, just at work, had dinner and bored

    Bored sounds pretty right for me too.

  • Joe in Fla03/12/2009 at 02:05

    Not really. It's 2am in Sidepodland so most people are sleeping. As for me, nope. You?

    How do you satisfy your need for sports during the off-seasson?

  • Joe in Fla03/12/2009 at 02:06

    I have football (American) and baseball gets going around the same time as the teams start packing up and getting ready to race

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 02:07

    How do you satisfy your need for sports during the off-seasson?

    Luckily football (soccer for you and most people here is Aus as well) runs through the F1 off season and I am just as bigger fan of that as I am of F1, so I'm good.

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 02:08

    I have football (American)

    I've started to watch a little NFL and collage football on ESPN here. haven't picked a team yet though.

  • Joe in Fla03/12/2009 at 02:09

    Luckily football (soccer for you and most people here is Aus as well) runs through the F1 off season and I am just as bigger fan of that as I am of F1, so I'm good.

    My American football teams are doing terrible, so the playoffs will barely hold my interest. I just got a phone call from the St. Pete Grand Prix (indycar) trying to get me to buy tickets for the end of March, don't think I'll go though

  • Bill ritchie03/12/2009 at 02:37

    Go PATRIOTS!!!

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 02:48

    Go PATRIOTS!!!

    I watched the Saints take them apart on Monday night

  • me03/12/2009 at 03:21

    great post mav. am looking at the big pics now. have also plugged your calendar on christine's blog here:

    http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/12/02/advent-calendars-without-chocolate/

    (a plug within a plug there)

    and now i must be off.

  • me03/12/2009 at 03:22

    Dont get to meet many F1 fans down here. press covereage is poor. thanks god for sites like this

    hey bill, meant to be around this evening, will try and be around this time tomorrow. appreciate your comments.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 04:09

    so bill you heading up to the aus gp next year? Sounds like a few of the spc crew will be there so meetups may happen.

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 04:15

    so bill you heading up to the aus gp next year? Sounds like a few of the spc crew will be there so meetups may happen.

    I really hope to be heading down but I'm not sure if it will happen at this stage.

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 04:16

    Don't know if this was mentioned by Danny Green beat Roy Jones Jr in 1 round last night. Its pretty funny to watch but I'd have hated to paid to see it. ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfkXMFUuWm8

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 04:25

    our systems got overloaded last night with people who paid $49.95 to watch it. Cost 41c per second as my manager said this morning.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 06:25

    Giggles Advent calendar is on time

    Always scary that... releasing a feature you won't be awake to see go live, Good news that it worked :)

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 06:29

    and even though i am in the future i still havent watched it. You should make it nokia compatible so i can watch it before i leave work ;)

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 06:29

    Good daily Mav... just thought... it could have been Wednesday Wonderings. To go with Monday Musing, and Friday Finking

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 06:29

    and even though i am in the future i still havent watched it. You should make it nokia compatible so i can watch it before i leave work ;)

    #sorryamy :)

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 06:41

    that hashtag - is there any situation it isnt appropriate for?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 06:51

    Morning guys!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 06:51

    that hashtag - is there any situation it isnt appropriate for?

    Drug Dealers?

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 06:59

    that hashtag - is there any situation it isnt appropriate for?

    Don't think so.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 07:00

    So today is an interesting day as tonight I am going out to a party... And it's black tie. So full dinner jacket and the black bow tie for those unfamiliar. Always seems odd to be dressed up like that.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 07:00

    Morning guys!

    Morning :)

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 07:00

    Drug Dealers?

    ;)

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 07:14

    is Murray Walker going to be there?

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 07:20

    is Murray Walker going to be there?

    I don't think so. One always hopes that they will look like James Bond, but all you really need to do is avoid looking like the Penguin.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 07:23

    its good practice at dressing up for the wedding at williams.

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 07:28

    "so bill you heading up to the aus gp next year? Sounds like a few of the spc crew will be there so meetups may happen"

    AM aiming at itamy. Would be gold to meet the SPC crew. it'l be sweet to meet people of my own kind, and who dont get bored when i dribble all the crap i got floating around uphere. LOL

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 07:42

    why wont my live commenting thing doohickey work. i cant see threads, but i get the rest

  • Stuart C03/12/2009 at 08:07

    Morning all,

    Following a tip-off from @adrianatkinson yesterday I watched last night's episode of Spooks with interest...

    It's very nerdy, but of minor interest to F1 fans: the fellow who gets stabbed to death in an underpass about 20 minutes in is none other than Fuji TV cameraman Rupert Shelbourne...

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 08:08

    why wont my live commenting thing doohickey work. i cant see threads, but i get the rest

    Are you on the realtime doohickey, or the LCLT?

    Also, what browser are you using?

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 08:08

    It's very nerdy, but of minor interest to F1 fans: the fellow who gets stabbed to death in an underpass about 20 minutes in is none other than Fuji TV cameraman Rupert Shelbourne...

    Ooooh... cameo. :D

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 08:09

    its good practice at dressing up for the wedding at williams.

    :D :D

  • Stuart C03/12/2009 at 08:10

    Mav,

    As Dank has observed, someone is ripping off your content (albeit with the minor courtesy of sticking a link to your site at the bottom.

  • Stuart C03/12/2009 at 08:11

    Ooooh... cameo. :D

    He didn't sing Word Up, though!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 08:14

    Mav,

    As Dank has observed, someone is ripping off your content (albeit with the minor courtesy of sticking a link to your site at the bottom.

    Professionally speaking, is that as wrong as it sounds, even though a link is provided? I must say I hate the idea of it!

  • Stuart C03/12/2009 at 08:17

    Professionally speaking, is that as wrong as it sounds, even though a link is provided? I must say I hate the idea of it!

    To my mind, it's like me coming into your house and walking out with your DVD box set of the Sopranos, then putting it on my shelf for all to see - albeit with your address stuck on the back with a Post-It note.

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:17

    explorer. i cant tell teh difference between them. the one i was on had the video in the left and the thread seed drop down list below. and the text box was saying loading comments, but it built me up the let me down.

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 08:20

    explorer. i cant tell teh difference between them. the one i was on had the video in the left and the thread seed drop down list below. and the text box was saying loading comments, but it built me up the let me down.

    Video on the left means you're on LCLT. What browser are you using?

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:21

    internet explorer

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 08:24

    explorer. i cant tell teh difference between them. the one i was on had the video in the left and the thread seed drop down list below. and the text box was saying loading comments, but it built me up the let me down.

    Bill,

    Is your browser up to date? The live comments screen has trouble on older machines...

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 08:25

    Mooooorning all

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 08:25

    Professionally speaking, is that as wrong as it sounds, even though a link is provided? I must say I hate the idea of it!

    To my mind, it's like me coming into your house and walking out with your DVD box set of the Sopranos, then putting it on my shelf for all to see - albeit with your address stuck on the back with a Post-It note.

    Hmm... It sucks that someone would be so unoriginal to leech someone's content like that rather than make their own!

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:25

    how do i tell. im on vista and id get the pop up telling me it needed updating. i imagine.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 08:27

    how do i tell. im on vista and id get the pop up telling me it needed updating. i imagine.

    Does your Internet Explorer have tabs? Then it should be OK... try Firefox, Safari or Chrome too...

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 08:28

    how do i tell. im on vista and id get the pop up telling me it needed updating. i imagine.

    You should be on at least IE7. It should work for IE7, but I'm not 100% sure it does.

    Try this instead: http://www.sidepodcast.com/realtime

    Does that work for you?

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 08:29

    Morning all.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 08:31

    Morning all.

    Goood Morning Mrs Blachford, Good Morning Everybody.

    NB: Am stressed up like im going into a school, hense ^^

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 08:31

    Morning, Christine.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 08:31

    NB: Am stressed up like im going into a school, hense ^^

    *dressed

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 08:32

    NB: Am stressed up like im going into a school, hense ^^

    A school uniform?

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:32

    Hey the boss herself! nice to meet you :-)

    Yeah i have tabs. the link (journeyman) just had a tab at the bottom that said read more, then a message popped up saying message could no be parsed. I think the "p" in front is a typo tho. LOL

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 08:33

    Hey the boss herself! nice to meet you :-)

    Hello Bill.

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 08:33

    Yeah i have tabs. the link (journeyman) just had a tab at the bottom that said read more, then a message popped up saying message could no be parsed. I think the "p" in front is a typo tho. LOL

    :D Yeah, looks like Firefox or Chrome is the way to go for you. Do you have either of them?

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:35

    na, ad right now i cant be parsed!! got to put my twins to bed

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 08:36

    Ooooh. Your twins sleep rather early though. :)

    Let's hope Mr C can shed some more light on the situation once he comes in.

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:37

    saying i need to enter a valid web address. suggest one?

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 08:39

    saying i need to enter a valid web address. suggest one?

    You don't have an email address?

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 08:40

    saying i need to enter a valid web address. suggest one?

    If you click on Help and then press About what version does it say there Bill?

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:41

    yeah oi have email. thats entered already. can i just add f1.com or something. i wont, coz i dont wana breach bernie. ill lose my house!! :-)

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:42

    internet explorer 8. im with the jiggy

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 08:43

    im in australia. its 745pm over here

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 08:45

    Good daily Mav... just thought... it could have been Wednesday Wonderings. To go with Monday Musing, and Friday Finking

    Oooh, yeah, me like

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 08:46

    So today is an interesting day as tonight I am going out to a party... And it's black tie. So full dinner jacket and the black bow tie for those unfamiliar. Always seems odd to be dressed up like that.

    More pictures?

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 08:47

    Mav,

    As Dank has observed, someone is ripping off your content (albeit with the minor courtesy of sticking a link to your site at the bottom.

    I complained to GoogleAds - they don't like their ads been used on stolen material - hoping to hit them in their pockets.

    Maybe SPC should do the same

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 08:48

    Thursday Thoughts for this week

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 08:49

    Thursday Thoughts for this week

    Woooohoo!

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 08:52

    So today is an interesting day as tonight I am going out to a party... And it's black tie. So full dinner jacket and the black bow tie for those unfamiliar. Always seems odd to be dressed up like that.

    More pictures?

    Oh yeah... Absolutely.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 09:09

    how dare I come home from work early to ring my parents and they not answer. Boooooo.

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 09:13

    how dare I come home from work early to ring my parents and they not answer. Boooooo.

    How dare you, indeed. :P :D

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 09:14

    How dare you, indeed. :P :D

    I have to go to the supermarket because I have to take chocolate biscuits to work tomorrow and I don't have any! I need to leave the house! Come on mum! :D :D

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 09:16

    James Allen reckons Renault are on the brink of quitting...

    http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/12/renault-on-point-of-quitting-f1-deal-with-prodrive-under-study/?utm_campaign=UA-7628173-1&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

    Sure explains the bread man's switch to Sauber this week

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 09:18

    James Allen reckons Renault are on the brink of quitting...

    ...and selling out to Prodrive. Prodrive-Renault is a good idea. DR also knows his way around Enstone, and he's probably the best guy who can take over and hit the ground running.

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 09:19

    And with Renault still providing engines, RBR should be fine if they can't get their hands on the Mercs.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 09:20

    ...and selling out to Prodrive. Prodrive-Renault is a good idea. DR also knows his way around Enstone, and he's probably the best guy who can take over and hit the ground running.

    And then there were Ferrari and Mercedes...

    Some of FOTA's threats from earlier in the year look weaker by the day

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 09:21

    And then there were Ferrari and Mercedes...

    As least THOSE two look like they're gonna stay. And Renault will still be around as engine suppliers - that's what they were always best at.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 09:33

    Hulkenberg says that Ferrari contacted him about filling in for Massa as well.

    "It would have been bad for me not only to leave GP2 when I was in a position to win the title, but also for my reputation to be affected by bad results in F1.

    "Look what happened to [Romain] Grosjean. A couple of tough races and then someone like [Kamui] Kobayashi turns up for two races and looks really good. It must have been very tough for him."

    Ouch!

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80411

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 09:35

    "Look what happened to [Romain] Grosjean. A couple of tough races and then someone like [Kamui] Kobayashi turns up for two races and looks really good. It must have been very tough for him."

    Ouch!

    Painful, but true. Sometimes, it's not always the best idea to take the first seat offered to you. :)

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 09:35

    "Look what happened to [Romain] Grosjean. A couple of tough races and then someone like [Kamui] Kobayashi turns up for two races and looks really good. It must have been very tough for him."

    No Hulk, engage brain THEN talk

    It makes good soundbites for us though, so keep it up

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 09:39

    Painful, but true. Sometimes, it's not always the best idea to take the first seat offered to you. :)

    To be fair, Kobayshi had 4 days of testing behind the wheel of the TF109 before the season, hope the Hulk uses his time as wisely and that other teams learn from that

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 09:52

    Morning everyone.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 09:52

    Morning everyone.

    Morning

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 09:56

    Dave Richards back in F1. Bring it on! that guy is a genius.

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 10:01

    From James Allens column.

    "As for engines, as I wrote here last week, Renault will continue to supply engines for 2010 and it is not hard to imagine that this arrangement would continue until the end of 2012 when the engine formula is set to change . . ."

    So like they did between 97 and 02, come back when theyve had a few years off to concentrate solely on the new formula and be back in front within a cpl years if not straigt away.

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 10:06

    So like they did between 97 and 02, come back when theyve had a few years off to concentrate solely on the new formula and be back in front within a cpl years if not straigt away.

    Hmmm. They were engine suppliers from 1989-1997, then weren't in F1 at all from 1998-2000 (it was Mecachrome making the engines). They weren't doing any R&D work for the new technology in their absence.

    When they came back, they tried this 120-degree wide-v10 engine that delivered nothing like the power they needed it to. Their only saving grace at the time was their rocket-powered start (thanks in part to a launch control system, then when that was banned, decisions they made on car weight distribution).

    Only when they went back to the 90-degree V10 in 2004 did they become a regular podium/win/title contender again.

    All that said, since they're staying in as engine suppliers, I imagine they would indeed do R&D for whatever the engine formula is in 2013.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:10

    boo, phone call done but now its 9pm and I can't be bothered going to the supermarket. But I know I won't go before work in the morning. I guess I'd better go now :(

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:11

    boo, phone call done but now its 9pm and I can't be bothered going to the supermarket. But I know I won't go before work in the morning. I guess I'd better go now :(

    Do it, and live comment your way there. Make it a supermarket adventure.

  • Bill of Tasmania03/12/2009 at 10:13

    WHy would anyone need to take choccy biscuits to work. Do you work in a coffe factory?

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 10:13

    All that said, since they're staying in as engine suppliers, I imagine they would indeed do R&D for whatever the engine formula is in 2013.

    I don't know, they've cut back their workforce considerably - they'll have to do a lot of hiring to tackle a completely new F1 engine.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:13

    WHy would anyone need to take choccy biscuits to work. Do you work in a coffe factory?

    we're having a morning tea and everyone has to bring something so to stop everyone turning up with the same thing they put up a list of suggestions and I chose the chocolate biscuits :D

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:14

    Do it, and live comment your way there. Make it a supermarket adventure.

    I like this idea. I'm pondering stopping in somewhere to pick up some tea on the way home because I just realised I haven't eaten.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:14

    I like this idea. I'm pondering stopping in somewhere to pick up some tea on the way home because I just realised I haven't eaten.

    Oooh good. What are your options?

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:18

    im outside. Its cold.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:20

    im outside. Its cold.

    Walk a bit faster?

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 10:21

    Walk a bit faster?

    Go inside?

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:21

    supermarket is at the far end of the street so sussing what else is open as i walk past. So far just the 7 eleven.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:22

    supermarket is at the far end of the street so sussing what else is open as i walk past. So far just the 7 eleven.

    What time is it?

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 10:22

    supermarket is at the far end of the street so sussing what else is open as i walk past. So far just the 7 eleven.

    Surely it must be between 7 and eleven? Or are 7 elevens 24 hours now?

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 10:23

    ...and selling out to Prodrive. Prodrive-Renault is a good idea. DR also knows his way around Enstone, and he's probably the best guy who can take over and hit the ground running.

    Kia-Prodrive-Renault? :-P

    Liking the suggestion of Korean involvement

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:25

    the bar/patisserie is open. No take away food but might pick up desert. Japanese open too but doesnt appeal.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 10:25

    the bar/patisserie is open. No take away food but might pick up desert. Japanese open too but doesnt appeal.

    I am aware it's like 9pm and you're in australia but I'd recommend hunting down a Greggs

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:26

    the bar/patisserie is open. No take away food but might pick up desert. Japanese open too but doesnt appeal.

    Dessert is more important of course.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:26

    I am aware it's like 9pm and you're in australia but I'd recommend hunting down a Greggs

    Hehe.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:28

    i just got money out of the atm, took my card but didnt take the money. Went back a minute later and its gone. I hope someone enjoys my $50 :( i feel dumb :(

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:29

    i just got money out of the atm, took my card but didnt take the money. Went back a minute later and its gone. I hope someone enjoys my $50 :( i feel dumb :(

    Oh no!

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 10:29

    i just got money out of the atm, took my card but didnt take the money. Went back a minute later and its gone. I hope someone enjoys my $50 :( i feel dumb :(

    Oh no!

    Booo! :(

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 10:30

    i just got money out of the atm, took my card but didnt take the money. Went back a minute later and its gone. I hope someone enjoys my $50 :( i feel dumb :(

    I've done that before. Most annoying feeling ever :(

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:31

    the thought of desert distracted me :( now i need it to cheer me up. Stupid thursday :(

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 10:31

    i just got money out of the atm, took my card but didnt take the money. Went back a minute later and its gone. I hope someone enjoys my $50 :( i feel dumb :(

    Was there a queue, you might have got lucky and the machine took it back in?

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:32

    the thought of desert distracted me :( now i need it to cheer me up. Stupid thursday :(

    Thursdays are evil. This is not quite the adventure I anticipated!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:39

    no queue the street is pretty empty. I did a balance check and it was down $50 but i shall cross my fingers that does not update instantly if it takes money back. Got a double pack of timtams for $4.99 so the $5 limit from my work was not breached. Then i got custard square for dessert. Now i think ill buy a pie.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:40

    no queue the street is pretty empty. I did a balance check and it was down $50 but i shall cross my fingers that does not update instantly if it takes money back. Got a double pack of timtams for $4.99 so the $5 limit from my work was not breached. Then i got custard square for dessert. Now i think ill buy a pie.

    Mmm, Tim Tams.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:41

    lamb and rosemary pie purchased. Now i go home.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 10:42

    @andrewbensonf1 L'Equipe newspaper says Renault are actively looking for ways to quit F1 as a constructor and supply only engines. Should be taken seriously

    Strange, he never said Eddie should be taken seriously about Schumi!

    Still, this is what you get when you start publishing trash, you have to add "Should be taken seriously" to the end of the serious stuff

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:42

    i dont even like tim tams but i know everyone else at work will!

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:43

    i dont even like tim tams but i know everyone else at work will!

    It is impossible not to like Tim Tams.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:43

    lamb and rosemary pie purchased. Now i go home.

    Excellent job!

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 10:44

    Strange, he never said Eddie should be taken seriously about Schumi!

    Still, this is what you get when you start publishing trash, you have to add "Should be taken seriously" to the end of the serious stuff

    I read that as 'Uh oh, this isn't from a joke source'

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 10:44

    It is impossible not to like Tim Tams.

    Hmm... that's made me crave Timbits

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:46

    Still, this is what you get when you start publishing trash, you have to add "Should be taken seriously" to the end of the serious stuff

    Wow.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 10:47

    I read that as 'Uh oh, this isn't from a joke source'

    Resisting the urge to ask why we shouldn't take his usual tweets seriously

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:49

    Resisting the urge to ask why we shouldn't take his usual tweets seriously

    You should!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:54

    ahh now I am in bed. Nothing else bad can happen to me here! (I hope)

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:55

    ahh now I am in bed. Nothing else bad can happen to me here! (I hope)

    Phew!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:56

    Phew!

    and I just opened my dessert bag and the lady gave me two pieces! I cannot eat that much, but now I can have some tomorrow :D

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 10:57

    and I just opened my dessert bag and the lady gave me two pieces! I cannot eat that much, but now I can have some tomorrow :D

    the good day - bad day balance is partially restored

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 10:58

    Time to run off to uni to get on with this silly database/evil access assignment, boo :(

    Shall be back soon fingers crossed!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:58

    the good day - bad day balance is partially restored

    lost $50, got $5.50 worth of dessert for free. But it tastes so good, I'd pay $50 for it if I had to :D

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 10:58

    and I just opened my dessert bag and the lady gave me two pieces! I cannot eat that much, but now I can have some tomorrow :D

    She obviously knew you were having a bad day!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 10:59

    She obviously knew you were having a bad day!

    that and the case was still almost full and they were closing in an hour :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 11:14

    Afternoon all.

    The maggot is still racing around the hot chop today I am afraid (which means I am still busy).

    I'm grumpy today because I participated in a bachelor party which I was forced to stay until the end because I planned to crash at his house. Big mistake, I'm £100 poorer and I was forced to attend venues where I didn't want to go!

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 11:14

    Resisting the urge to ask why we shouldn't take his usual tweets seriously

    You should!

    Huh, he's ignoring me :-(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 11:16

    I'm grumpy today because I participated in a bachelor party which I was forced to stay until the end because I planned to crash at his house. Big mistake, I'm £100 poorer and I was forced to attend venues where I didn't want to go!

    His house being a mate who organised it, mind!

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 11:16

    Huh, he's ignoring me :-(

    Not a surprise!

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 11:22

    While it's raining in Jerez, a quick reminder about Thursday Thoughts

  • me03/12/2009 at 11:36

    did amy miss finn news?

    http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/93393039/Getty-Images-Entertainment

    or just me?

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 11:38

    did amy miss finn news?

    !

    http://www.get...-Images-Entertainment

    I signed his pact.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 11:39

    http://www.get...-Images-Entertainment

    Is that the Sign/Join/Do Something the Pact thing again? I am not talking about it in a podcast again. I always get it wrong.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 11:40

    Is that the Sign/Join/Do Something the Pact thing again? I am not talking about it in a podcast again. I always get it wrong.

    It's just subliminal advertising for the alcohol sponsors isn't it?

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 11:43

    Is that the Sign/Join/Do Something the Pact thing again? I am not talking about it in a podcast again. I always get it wrong.

    sí, unete el pacto ;)

  • me03/12/2009 at 11:45

    I signed his pact.

    just checking.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 11:46

    just checking.

    hes competing against Lewis, I had to.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 11:47

    just checking.

    hes competing against Lewis, I had to.

    Even I had trouble voting in that one. It's just too weird!

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 11:47

    The weather is evil. Raining like crazy and blowing me away when I go out. sunny and innocent when I get to uni. Boooo!!!!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 11:49

    Even I had trouble voting in that one. It's just too weird!

    I like to believe that all ads are real and they really are competing against each other. And one day, Heikki might pick me up if I call a taxi.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 11:49

    Even I had trouble voting in that one. It's just too weird!

    I like to believe that all ads are real and they really are competing against each other. And one day, Heikki might pick me up if I call a taxi.

    You do that Amy ;)

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 11:50

    Alex has brought an absolute disaster to my attention

    http://twitter.com/alexandronov/statuses/6300966227

    Noooooooooooooo

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 11:50

    You do that Amy ;)

    I should sue Ricky Gervais, my belief that ads always tell the truth surely influenced the plot of his latest movie.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 11:51

    Hello, good morning and potato to you all.

    Just had another driving lesson, and had my first taste of driving in the wet - on a dual carriageway.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 11:52

    Hello, good morning and potato to you all.

    and potato? :)

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 11:52

    Just had another driving lesson, and had my first taste of driving in the wet - on a dual carriageway.

    Ah yes, I remember that first lesson for me on a wet dual carriageway. I spent the majority of it crapping myself :D

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 11:53

    and potato? :)

    There's a guy on YouTube called Ashens who reviews rubbish pieces of tech, like crap games systems and things like that. I know in one of his videos he says at the beginning "Hello, good day and potato to you all" No idea why, he just does! :D

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 11:53

    There's a guy on YouTube called Ashens who reviews rubbish pieces of tech, like crap games systems and things like that. I know in one of his videos he says at the beginning "Hello, good day and potato to you all" No idea why, he just does! :D

    I knew I recognised it!! Ashens is brilliant, his Popstation review always gets me.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 11:54

    Ah yes, I remember that first lesson for me on a wet dual carriageway. I spent the majority of it crapping myself :D

    :D

    It wasn't heavy rain, and surprisingly I was just fine. Going 70 with the wipers on didn't faze me one bit.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 11:54

    Ah yes, I remember that first lesson for me on a wet dual carriageway. I spent the majority of it crapping myself :D

    I did almost every lesson in the dark and in the wet - the test was rather weird in dry, sunny conditions

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 11:54

    I knew I recognised it!! Ashens is brilliant, his Popstation review always gets me.

    He says it in his review of Renegade 3 :D

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 11:55

    I did almost every lesson in the dark and in the wet - the test was rather weird in dry, sunny conditions

    Well I can now say I've driven in the dark and in the wet. Although more so at night than in the rain.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 11:55

    Well I can now say I've driven in the dark and in the wet. Although more so at night than in the rain.

    I still really dislike how in the dark in the rain all the road markings seem to disappear.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 11:56

    He says it in his review of Renegade 3 :D

    Or maybe not, just started watching and it's not there :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 11:57

    He says it in his review of Renegade 3 :D

    Or maybe not, just started watching and it's not there :P

    Well Potato to you too Scott!

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 11:57

    Well Potato to you too Scott!

    Ah here it is :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zUkK14bHDk

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 12:20

    Boo I set my PVR to record Aircrash Investigations while I was out and it recorded the first four minutes of a show I don't normally watch, but it looked interesting, so now I am watching the episode online. This is why I don't sleep enough!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 12:20

    Boo I set my PVR to record Aircrash Investigations while I was out and it recorded the first four minutes of a show I don't normally watch, but it looked interesting, so now I am watching the episode online. This is why I don't sleep enough!

    That program makes destruction fun!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 12:22

    That program makes destruction fun!

    The episode was one where a wasp built a nest in a pitot tube and thus 189 people died. Wasps are so evil!

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 12:22

    can't microsoft come up with a spell checker that automatically changes the tense of an entire document - I'm correcting someone's report and the whole thing is in present tense. grrrr

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 12:23

    The episode was one where a wasp built a nest in a pitot tube and thus 189 people died. Wasps are so evil!

    I bet the wasps survived just fine didn't they?

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 12:24

    I bet the wasps survived just fine didn't they?

    probably! When I hop on my plane in 3 weeks time I might just have to ask if they have checked for insects ;)

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 12:24

    probably! When I hop on my plane in 3 weeks time I might just have to ask if they have checked for insects ;)

    "Can you not give me seats close to the wasps?"

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 12:26

    "Can you not give me seats close to the wasps?"

    I shared a plane with the wasps rugby team once

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 12:26

    The episode was one where a wasp built a nest in a pitot tube and thus 189 people died. Wasps are so evil!

    Bloody hell!

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 12:27

    Have revolutionised the Thursday Thoughts wiki page.

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Thursday+Thoughts

    Well, revolutionised might be overstating it a bit.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 12:29

    Have revolutionised the Thursday Thoughts wiki page.

    But you won't fool the Christine of the Revolution

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 12:36

    Toyota say they have no plans to sell the team which leaves the 13th place on the grid to Sauber

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80420

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 12:38

    I have my 2nd choccy digestive biscuit of the day. more tea vicar?

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 12:38

    I have my 2nd choccy digestive biscuit of the day. more tea vicar?

    ooh a cup of tea would be nice right now. I wonder if she who sleeps near the kitchen is asleep.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 12:39

    Toyota say they have no plans to sell the team which leaves the 13th place on the grid to Sauber

    http://www.aut...s/report.php/id/80420

    No reason to sell - especially if the new team does a Brawn and makes them look bad!

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 12:41

    No reason to sell - especially if the new team does a Brawn and makes them look bad!

    You can buy the plans though and, in a special clearance sale, they're throwing in Kobayashi! Strange.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 12:43

    No reason to sell - especially if the new team does a Brawn and makes them look bad!

    You can buy the plans though and, in a special clearance sale, they're throwing in Kobayashi! Strange.

    Great. Prove how bad Toyota were with a baseline to compare to? Toyota Fail at pulling out of the sport too!

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 12:44

    #MFC

    What's TWIT worth? http://leoville.com/whats-twit-worth-to-you

    Leo wants us to decide what he's worth!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 12:45

    #MFC

    What's TWIT worth? http://leovill...ats-twit-worth-to-you

    Leo wants us to decide what he's worth!

    A Database Error, apparently ;)

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 12:46

    No reason to sell - especially if the new team does a Brawn and makes them look bad!

    Perhaps selling it will show that Toyota still has good intentions for the sport and will help in negotiations with FOM?

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 12:49

    Perhaps selling it will show that Toyota still has good intentions for the sport and will help in negotiations with FOM?

    Must be tempting for someone like Williams or Force India to buy the plans to keep the new teams at the bottom

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 12:51

    Perhaps selling it will show that Toyota still has good intentions for the sport and will help in negotiations with FOM?

    Must be tempting for someone like Williams or Force India to buy the plans to keep the new teams at the bottom

    Oh, you just know Williams will, won't they?

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 12:52

    Oh, you just know Williams will, won't they?

    Should have demanded them as part of breaking their engine contract, but no, Williams moved too early

  • Kathi03/12/2009 at 12:53

    Kimi news: Turun Sanomat reporting that Kimi's transfer to rally with Citroen will be finally announced this afternoon. Please don't let me down Mr Kulta.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 12:55

    Kimi news: Turun Sanomat reporting that Kimi's transfer to rally with Citroen will be finally announced this afternoon. Please don't let me down Mr Kulta.

    Mr Kultra!! What an awesome name. Kinda like MK Ultra

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 12:56

    Mr Kulta!! What an awesome name. Kinda like MK Ultra

    And his first name is Heikki. :D

  • Kathi03/12/2009 at 12:56

    Mr Kultra!! What an awesome name. Kinda like MK Ultra

    Kulta is Finnish for gold and is also used like honey/darling/sweetheart/...

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 13:01

    And his first name is Heikki. :D

    Epic name.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 13:02

    *throws a brick at Visual Studio 2007*

    worst. program. ever. even worse than Crashccess 2007

  • me03/12/2009 at 13:04

    *throws a brick at Visual Studio 2007*

    lukeh... there isn't a visual studio 2007?

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 13:07

    lukeh... there isn't a visual studio 2007?

    Oops. 2008. Different year, same bleh.

  • me03/12/2009 at 13:12

    Oops. 2008. Different year, same bleh.

    hehe. best software microsoft ever made.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 13:15

    hehe. best software microsoft ever made.

    But I'm not writing a blog

    :P

    It's just being rubbish about my access database and there seems to be absolutely no reason why.

  • me03/12/2009 at 13:15

    It's just being rubbish about my access database and there seems to be absolutely no reason why.

    because you're using access.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 13:17

    because you're using access.

    Not my fault! We have to use it :(

  • me03/12/2009 at 13:18

    Not my fault! We have to use it :(

    fair enough. if i were pointing the finger, it would be in access' direction.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 13:18

    fair enough. if i were pointing the finger, it would be in access' direction.

    Access currently leads in the amount of times crashed unecessarily so I'm happy to agree there

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 13:24

    Mr Kultra!! What an awesome name. Kinda like MK Ultra

    Kulta is Finnish for gold and is also used like honey/darling/sweetheart/...

    So it's the the Danish word 'Skat' then?

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 13:25

    Not my fault! We have to use it :(

    Some causes are worth revolting over

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 13:26

    Some causes are worth revolting over

    :P

  • Kathi03/12/2009 at 13:30

    So it's the the Danish word 'Skat' then?

    >>insert your own reply here, because I can't think of one<<

  • James03/12/2009 at 13:33

    Some causes are worth revolting over

    I agree. I feel the same way about my Multi Tasking assignment.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 13:38

    >>insert your own reply here, because I can't think of one<<

    I've not got any that will pass moderation

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 13:40

    I am reading websites telling me how to pack for a holiday. It's like organisational heaven.

  • Kathi03/12/2009 at 13:40

    AUTOSPORT reporting Kimi won't take part in the New Zealand rally. Lady Snowcat won't be happy.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 13:41

    AUTOSPORT reporting Kimi won't take part in the New Zealand rally. Lady Snowcat won't be happy.

    booo me neither. Not that I was going to go, but it'd be nice to think he was in my country :D

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 13:48

    I enjoyed reading this archive article about a young driver test in September 1993. Paywall, though.

    http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2529

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 13:49

    Thursdays = Boo

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 13:50

    AUTOSPORT reporting Kimi won't take part in the New Zealand rally. Lady Snowcat won't be happy.

    This'll do wonders for WRC's audience figures

  • me03/12/2009 at 13:53

    I enjoyed reading this archive article about a young driver test in September 1993. Paywall, though.

    http://www.aut...s/article.php/id/2529

    great idea.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 13:58

    AUTOSPORT reporting Kimi won't take part in the New Zealand rally. Lady Snowcat won't be happy.

    Considering how many Kimi fans there are in NZ, that's a bad move :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 13:58

    AUTOSPORT reporting Kimi won't take part in the New Zealand rally. Lady Snowcat won't be happy.

    This'll do wonders for WRC's audience figures

    I'll start watching it again and I refused to this year!

  • Kathi03/12/2009 at 13:59

    I'll start watching it again

    Just because of Kimi?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:02

    I'll start watching it again

    Just because of Kimi?

    Yeah sure, why not? Makes rallying a heck of a lot more interesting...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:05

    My wife has just called me - she has just received a copy of my James Allen book.

    Now, it was supposed to be delivered by UPS to my door (I live in an apartment building). Because it was delivered during the day, nobody was home, so apparently they left a loose piece of paper on the street telling her that it was sent to the warehouse.

    A loose piece of paper that could have been soaked with rain or blown away. I mean, these guys are supposed to replace the postal service, but they are just as idiotic! Moral of the story: get stuff delivered to your work!

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 14:06

    A loose piece of paper that could have been soaked with rain or blown away. I mean, these guys are supposed to replace the postal service, but they are just as idiotic! Moral of the story: get stuff delivered to your work!

    I found a parcel just left by the back door at the weekend that had been there for 5 days!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:09

    I found a parcel just left by the back door at the weekend that had been there for 5 days!

    You would think that with the postal services of the world down for the count that couriers would come through and justify the higher prices with superior service!

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 14:11

    You would think that with the postal services of the world down for the count that couriers would come through and justify the higher prices with superior service!

    Funnily enough, a mistake meant the same item was sent twice and I got the second delivery before the first because I happened to be in when that came

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:22
  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:24

    Joe reckons by the end of the day that David Richards will buy Renault F1 and rebrand it as Aston Martin.

    Now there's a team worth supporting!

    will DR convince Kubica to stay and not jump to Merc?

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 14:25

    will DR convince Kubica to stay and not jump to Merc?

    I reckon he will.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:25

    Joe reckons by the end of the day that David Richards will buy Renault F1 and rebrand it as Aston Martin.

    Now there's a team worth supporting!

    will DR convince Kubica to stay and not jump to Merc?

    He'll complain about it but does he have a choice other than Brawn (who probably don't want him)?

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:27

    He'll complain about it but does he have a choice other than Brawn (who probably don't want him)?

    if I were Merc, I might want him over Heidfeld.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 14:27

    Just in the taxi on the way back from Classic Team Lotus and my god... what a place. It might not look much but what it contains is just stunning.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:27

    He'll complain about it but does he have a choice other than Brawn (who probably don't want him)?

    if I were Merc, I might want him over Heidfeld.

    Based on 2009 performance? ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:27

    Just in the taxi on the way back from Classic Team Lotus and my god... what a place. It might not look much but what it contains is just stunning.

    What's the job that they offered?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 14:28

    Just in the taxi on the way back from Classic Team Lotus and my god... what a place. It might not look much but what it contains is just stunning.

    What did they say?

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:28

    Based on 2009 performance? ;)

    that and long-term viability. I see Kubica with way more potential at this point in his career compared to Heidfeld.

  • Alianora La Canta03/12/2009 at 14:29

    To add to the statistics in the original entry... ...it's 1000 days until the London Paralympics!

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 14:30

    What's the job that they offered?

    Basically it would be unpaid but I'd be helping out on te marketing side of things with all the merchandise and such. I'd only be there 3 days a week though. Nevertheless, I really want to work there.

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:30

    Joe reckons by the end of the day that David Richards will buy Renault F1 and rebrand it as Aston Martin.

    Now there's a team worth supporting!

    just a thought - if DR plans to convert it into Aston Martin, might Renault decide to work closer with Newey, RBR, and Vettel instead in the long term?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 14:31

    Basically it would be unpaid but I'd be helping out on te marketing side of things with all the merchandise and such. I'd only be there 3 days a week though. Nevertheless, I really want to work there.

    thats awesome :)

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:31

    Basically it would be unpaid but I'd be helping out on te marketing side of things with all the merchandise and such. I'd only be there 3 days a week though. Nevertheless, I really want to work there.

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:32

    Basically it would be unpaid but I'd be helping out on te marketing side of things with all the merchandise and such. I'd only be there 3 days a week though. Nevertheless, I really want to work there.

    my comment vanished. Basically, I said if your heart says yes, what's your head saying?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:32

    Joe reckons by the end of the day that David Richards will buy Renault F1 and rebrand it as Aston Martin.

    Now there's a team worth supporting!

    just a thought - if DR plans to convert it into Aston Martin, might Renault decide to work closer with Newey, RBR, and Vettel instead in the long term?

    Depends if they stick around or not. Certainly Red Bull would welcome it!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:33

    Basically it would be unpaid but I'd be helping out on te marketing side of things with all the merchandise and such. I'd only be there 3 days a week though. Nevertheless, I really want to work there.

    Sounds good. Is that what you were aiming for?

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:34

    Depends if they stick around or not. Certainly Red Bull would welcome it!

    and it might convince RBR to stay once and for all. I wonder what Citroën think of all this though.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:35

    Depends if they stick around or not. Certainly Red Bull would welcome it!

    and it might convince RBR to stay once and for all. I wonder what Citroën think of all this though.

    Why Citroen?

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:36

    Why Citroen?

    WRC team being sponsored by Red Bull as well.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 14:36

    Afternoon everyone :)

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:37

    Afternoon everyone :)

    hello mr andronov. Looks like we're in for a busy afternoon.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:38

    Why Citroen?

    WRC team being sponsored by Red Bull as well.

    Ah gotcha. But Red Bull sponsor VW cars in the safari Rally and Audis in DTM amongst others though?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 14:39

    Afternoon everyone :)

    hello mr andronov. Looks like we're in for a busy afternoon.

    And it's my turn to write the Daily post tonight (and my Thursday Thoughts!)

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:39

    Ah gotcha. But Red Bull sponsor VW cars in the safari Rally and Audis in DTM amongst others though?

    I guess so. But the fact that they're both French companies may add a different dynamic to it.

  • Alianora La Canta03/12/2009 at 14:39

    Following a tip-off from @adrianatkinson yesterday I watched last night's episode of Spooks with interest...

    It's very nerdy, but of minor interest to F1 fans: the fellow who gets stabbed to death in an underpass about 20 minutes in is none other than Fuji TV cameraman Rupert Shelbourne... {Comment #118}

    Never thought I'd hear of a F1 cameraman trying out life on the other side of the lens.

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 14:39

    And it's my turn to write the Daily post tonight (and my Thursday Thoughts!)

    where is this decided, BTW? I wanna join in. Hehe.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 14:40

    http://www.ferrari.com/English/News/Pages/091203_F1_Massa_family.aspx

    Felipe and Felipe Jr

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 14:41

    Felipe and Felipe Jr

    4 days old and I've already seen more pictures of him than I have of DC's kid :D

  • me03/12/2009 at 14:41

    where is this decided, BTW? I wanna join in. Hehe.

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Daily+Post+Guest+Writers

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 14:41

    hello mr andronov. Looks like we're in for a busy afternoon.

    Renault to Prodrive? Is that the main thing?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 14:41

    Sounds good. Is that what you were aiming for?

    Yeah pretty much. I said to them that anything they can offer me would me uch appreciated as it helps me get a foot into the door of this kind of industry.

    Seriously, guys, you would love it there. If you ever get a chance to visit CTL, go. I met Clive Chapman and also the team manager, who was Senna race engineer when he was at Lotus. They also had in rhe workshop Fittipaldi's Type 72, Mansell's car from '84 I think and also the original car which Jim Clark won the Indy 500 with. It was simply mind-blowing.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 14:41

    4 days old and I've already seen more pictures of him than I have of DC's kid :D

    I haven't seen any pips of Mini DC, so thats true for me

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 14:42

    Felipe and Felipe Jr

    Does that kid have a collared shirt on? The cruelty!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 14:42

    I haven't seen any pips of Mini DC, so thats true for me

    yep. Baby Massa: 1. Baby DC: 0.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 14:42

    Does that kid have a collared shirt on? The cruelty!

    *cough* Mini Alex *cough*

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 14:43

    Seriously, guys, you would love it there. If you ever get a chance to visit CTL, go. I met Clive Chapman and also the team manager, who was Senna race engineer when he was at Lotus. They also had in rhe workshop Fittipaldi's Type 72, Mansell's car from '84 I think and also the original car which Jim Clark won the Indy 500 with. It was simply mind-blowing.

    The Indy car had come all the way from the Henry Ford Museum to be restored and then once it's done it will go back over and then make an appearance at Goodwood. Plus they also had one of Clark's cars from 1963. I did also ask if they had any of the '90s cars with the Lambo engines. They said they did, but they were locked away in a shed on site.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 14:43

    Does that kid have a collared shirt on? The cruelty!

    he already has more hair than Mr Clapper.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 14:47

    Does that kid have a collared shirt on? The cruelty!

    oi ;)

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 14:48

    *cough* Mini Alex *cough*

    :)

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 14:48

    he already has more hair than Mr Clapper.

    oh dear ;)

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 14:51

    http://grandprixdiary.com/2009-grand-prix-drivers/ferrari/exclusive-why-kimi-had-to-go

    Kimi hat?

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 14:51

    oi ;)

    You are not four days old.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 15:03

    Have to say, this looks a lot better than this year's Renault...

    http://originalgaijin.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/webupload2.jpg

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 15:04

    Have to say, this looks a lot better than this year's Renault...

    http://origina...009/07/webupload2.jpg

    :O!

    Gorgeous!

  • Stuart C03/12/2009 at 15:05

    They also had in rhe workshop Fittipaldi's Type 72

    Still? That was supposed to go in the booky-wook, but it was in bits so we had to borrow a later model from Donington.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 15:05

    ooh the AGPC wants my market research to help improve next years event. They should learn the best way to get people to fill in lame surveys is to offer a prize :D

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 15:05

    Have to say, this looks a lot better than this year's Renault...

    http://origina...009/07/webupload2.jpg

    am not a fan

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 15:06

    Still? That was supposed to go in the booky-wook, but it was in bits so we had to borrow a later model from Donington.

    It was a Type 72 in JPS colours and it was one of Emerson's cars. I don't know which one it was exactly.

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 15:06

    am not a fan

    there's a lot I don't like about it...

    ...but then I'm comparing to this year's renault

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 15:06

    Have to say, this looks a lot better than this year's Renault...

    http://origina...009/07/webupload2.jpg

    am not a fan

    Am a fan!!!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 15:08

    right, I told them their twilight start time sucks. I expect they will listen to me and change it at my request.

  • Stuart C03/12/2009 at 15:10

    Have to say, this looks a lot better than this year's Renault...

    http://origina...009/07/webupload2.jpg

    It's a grower...

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 15:49

    I've left Alex in suspense all day but I can finally reveal today's hilarious joke in my Advent Calendar door

    What food do snowmen eat?

    Icebergers!

    Hehe.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 15:57

    Hehe.

    I wish mine had jokes :( Instead all I can tell you is the four shapes the chocolate has been in so far: Christmas tree, Santa hat, Snowflake, Christmas Pudding.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 15:59

    What food do snowmen eat?

    Icebergers!

    :)

  • Alison03/12/2009 at 16:00

    Afternoon :)

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 16:00

    What food do snowmen eat?

    Icebergers!

    Not all of yours have been Christmas related... I worry about one of your advent jokes beating mine to the pun-ch...

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 16:02

    Afternoon :)

    your arrival has reminded me to close Skype before I go to bed tonight. #sorryalison

  • Alison03/12/2009 at 16:03

    your arrival has reminded me to close Skype before I go to bed tonight. #sorryalison

    Hehehe I'm not annoyed! I was just so curious.... I was sat there thinking "how does one person turn their computer on and off so so regularly....."

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 16:04

    Hehehe I'm not annoyed! I was just so curious.... I was sat there thinking "how does one person turn their computer on and off so so regularly....."

    the computer is on 24/7 but the internet disconnects every 2 minutes or so :( stupid neighbours wireless :(

  • Alison03/12/2009 at 16:05

    the computer is on 24/7 but the internet disconnects every 2 minutes or so :( stupid neighbours wireless :(

    It must drive you actually mental! How do you use the internet for anything?

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 16:07

    It must drive you actually mental! How do you use the internet for anything?

    with much cursing and moving around the room trying to find a place where the signal is constant. Then I give up and disconnect it and use my 3G usb dongle thing instead. But it is after 1am and after 1am is offpeak times so it is when I do all my downloading, so I need to try and stay on the proper wireless :(

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 16:10

    It must drive you actually mental! How do you use the internet for anything?

    with much cursing and moving around the room trying to find a place where the signal is constant. Then I give up and disconnect it and use my 3G usb dongle thing instead. But it is after 1am and after 1am is offpeak times so it is when I do all my downloading, so I need to try and stay on the proper wireless :(

    You have to remember at one point Amy was using a laptop whose screen wasn't connected to its keyboard by anything other than the wires.

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 16:11

    You have to remember at one point Amy was using a laptop whose screen wasn't connected to its keyboard by anything other than the wires.

    I dug that one out yesterday to see if it would read my memory stick :D I really need to dispose of it.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 16:27

    Yay!!! From Jonathon Noble

    Sauber has been handed the 13th slot on the 2010 Formula 1 grid, the FIA has just confirmed

  • RG03/12/2009 at 16:27

    Sky Sports saying Sauber are the 13th team?

    and from Mr Noble

    Sauber has been handed the 13th slot on the 2010 Formula 1 grid, the FIA has just confirmed

    well in that case

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. yes. yes. yes. wooooooooo.

  • RG03/12/2009 at 16:27

    Oh, hi everyone.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 16:27

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. yes. yes. yes. wooooooooo.

    :D

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 16:29

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. yes. yes. yes. wooooooooo.

    Christmas came early for RG!

  • Alison03/12/2009 at 16:30

    Christmas came early for RG!

    Awww how are your Finns getting on? :(

  • me03/12/2009 at 16:30

    Sauber has been handed the 13th slot on the 2010 Formula 1 grid, the FIA has just confirmed

    always with the news at going home time!

  • RG03/12/2009 at 16:30

    Christmas came early for RG!

    Its been a hard year. Oh, I need a drink

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 16:31

    always with the news at going home time!

    GAH!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 16:31

    Awww how are your Finns getting on? :(

    noooo idea *hollers for Heikki*

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 16:31

    Sauber has been handed the 13th slot on the 2010 Formula 1 grid, the FIA has just confirmed

    If Renault drop out in the same day... what a strange afternoon Kubica will be having

  • me03/12/2009 at 16:31

    always with the news at going home time!

    GAH!

    are you doing overtime today, or me?

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 16:31

    are you doing overtime today, or me?

    I will.

  • me03/12/2009 at 16:32

    I will.

    thanking ya. nothing on the fia site yet.

  • me03/12/2009 at 16:33

    and this: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80429

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 16:34

    PING: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/12/03/sauber-secure-13th-grid-slot-for-2010/

  • James03/12/2009 at 16:35

    always with the news at going home time!

    GAH!

    you need to hire an assistant.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 16:36

    I ain't moving no comments though.

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 16:36

    you need to hire an assistant.

    Hmm, we would struggle with a pay packet. We can offer only Milky Bars.

  • Alison03/12/2009 at 16:37

    Hmm, we would struggle with a pay packet. We can offer only Milky Bars.

    I'd work for Milky Bars :D

    Alas, I don't think I'm capable of keeping on top of news of any variety....

  • James03/12/2009 at 16:37

    Hmm, we would struggle with a pay packet. We can offer only Milky Bars.

    hehe. call it work experience you don't need to pay them for that.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 16:40

    Good afternoon SidepodPeople

    Sauber news brings cheer, for a change

  • Alison03/12/2009 at 16:42

    Good afternoon SidepodPeople

    Afternoon :) I'm off out now for an early tea with a friend then it's work time :(

  • me03/12/2009 at 16:47

    I ain't moving no comments though.

    i will do later.

    no renault news until 7pm, ya hear?

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 16:48

    no renault news until 7pm, ya hear?

    Renault holding a press conference now...

    (I jest)

  • RG03/12/2009 at 16:49

    that woulda saved a whole lotta hassle... and emotions

  • James03/12/2009 at 17:06

    I'd work for Milky Bars :D

    come to think of it. so would i. not sure what that says about me!

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 17:38

    Scott: Don't you have a full-time job at the moment?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 17:38

    Now I'm stuck - I really want to do the work at Classic Team Lotus, but I know it's going to be unpaid work. So I need to find a part time job which will support me financially while I do so. But if I can't find one, then I'm stuffed. This is tough.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 17:40

    Could the Lotus volunteer work lead to anything in the future?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 17:40

    Could the Lotus volunteer work lead to anything in the future?

    Well they did say it would be unpaid "to start off with". What they mean by that and how long I'd have to be there before I get a wage I don't know.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 17:42

    Well they did say it would be unpaid "to start off with". What they mean by that and how long I'd have to be there before I get a wage I don't know.

    I'd want something a little more defined if I was doing it for free. But that's me.

    Part-time work as well could be very tiring

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 17:43

    Part-time work as well could be very tiring

    If I did this for CTL, I wouldn't really have a choice. I need some way of sustaining myself and I can't live off JSA forever. I need some kind of income.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 17:43

    Scott,

    Have you tries the Mike Gascoyne version of Lotus?

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 17:44

    Have you tries the Mike Gascoyne version of Lotus?

    Yup, sent a covering letter and CV to them. No reply as of yet.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 17:45

    Yup, sent a covering letter and CV to them. No reply as of yet.

    They are bound to have had thousands of applicants

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 17:45

    They are bound to have had thousands of applicants

    I did read recently they'd had about 1,000 applications already.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 17:46

    Will the CTL work be there in the future?

    Maybe now is not the right time

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 17:49

    Will the CTL work be there in the future?

    Well I was looking for weekend work but because the racing season has finished, there wouldn't be anything for me on those days. So right now, part time work on weekdays is all they'd be able to offer.

    Maybe now is not the right time

    Perhaps. God, this is tough.

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 17:50

    Some exciting dressing up going on for me, fourstar and the mysterious Jeremy from the Pole Poll on Sofaf1.com all on the drop :)

  • me03/12/2009 at 17:51

    Some exciting dressing up going on for me, fourstar and the mysterious Jeremy from the Pole Poll on Sofaf1.com all on the drop :)

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/photo-2-306

    ahh, going casual.

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 17:52
  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 17:53

    Some exciting dressing up going on for me, fourstar and the mysterious Jeremy from the Pole Poll on Sofaf1.com all on the drop :)

    For a moment I thought it was Red Bull day at the office ;)

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/02-ricciardo-jpg

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 17:53

    Some exciting dressing up going on for me, fourstar and the mysterious Jeremy from the Pole Poll on Sofaf1.com all on the drop :)

    Work function then?

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 17:54

    Needs more blue shirt

    :)

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 17:54

    Work function then?

    The Christmas party! Ridiculous dressing up like this, but there you go!

  • Amy03/12/2009 at 17:55

    The Christmas party! Ridiculous dressing up like this, but there you go!

    I wish my Christmas party was black tie!

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 17:55

    The Christmas party! Ridiculous dressing up like this, but there you go!

    Not much productive goings on tomorrw then

  • Alex Andronov03/12/2009 at 17:58

    Not much productive goings on tomorrw then

    To the max!

  • me03/12/2009 at 18:04

    some sidepodstats for you.

    last months uptime/downtime for mediatemple hosted sidepodcast.com:

    uptime: 99.88%

    downtime: 49 minutes

    outages: 3

    last months uptime/downtime for slicehost hosted f1minute.com:

    uptime: 100%

    downtime: 0 minutes

    outages: 0

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 18:06

    Interesting story from Joe. Prodrive to by the Renault team probably and Carlos Ghosn to possibly move from Renault and become head of GM. Given Renault history Ghosn's replacement will be an F1 fan who will have a new team in a couple of years.

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/more-about-renault/

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 18:06

    uptime: 100%

    downtime: 0 minutes

    outages: 0

    That's quite good that

  • me03/12/2009 at 18:06

    That's quite good that

    not complaining :)

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 18:07

    some sidepodstats for you.

    MT seem to be improving. I haven't noticed much downtime for a while

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:07

    Evening guys and gals

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 18:08

    Hi Jackie

  • RG03/12/2009 at 18:08

    Evening guys and gals

    Helllllo :D

  • me03/12/2009 at 18:08

    MT seem to be improving. I haven't noticed much downtime for a while

    that is true. although customers appear to be leaving in droves, due to a ballsup on their part that saw 10% of customers sites hacked.

    very soon we may have the whole server farm to ourselves :)

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:08

    Hi Jackie

    Hi Steven

  • me03/12/2009 at 18:15

    hey jackie.

    for lou: http://www.f1wolf.com/2009/12/2010-season-countdown-100-days-to-go.html

    i have to shoot off again in a bit, will do thursday thoughts when i gets back:

    http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/blog/index.php/1311/thursday-thoughts/

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 18:16
  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:17

    i have to shoot off again in a bit, will do thursday thoughts when i gets back:

    You making new goodies for the site?

  • me03/12/2009 at 18:17

    Noooooooo.

    oops.

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:18

    Noooooooo.

    What's nooooooo about it? too long till it starts up or don't you care anymore?

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 18:23

    What's nooooooo about it? too long till it starts up or don't you care anymore?

    Not long enough! It can't be time to countdown to the season already.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 18:24

    Not long enough! It can't be time to countdown to the season already.

    I think the countdown started on the Monday after the Abu Dhabi fiasco

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:24

    Not long enough! It can't be time to countdown to the season already.

    I wish it was 10 days away

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 18:25

    I think the countdown started on the Monday after the Abu Dhabi fiasco

    Boo.

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:25

    I wish it was 10 days away

    Or at least if we had some good news to look forward to, seems F1 is set on self destruct

  • Journeyer03/12/2009 at 18:26

    Before I go:

    #mfc

    Welcome Google Public DNS: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/introducing-google-public-dns.html

    Good night.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 18:26

    Boo.

    Here's something to take your mind off it

    http://toddyenglish.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/teacup-bunnies.jpg

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:26

    Good night.

    Night Journeyer

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 18:26

    Or at least if we had some good news to look forward to, seems F1 is set on self destruct

    Is the Sauber news not good?

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 18:27

    Here's something to take your mind off it

    http://toddyen...04/teacup-bunnies.jpg

    I have plenty to take my mind off it - that's the problem!!

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:27

    Is the Sauber news not good?

    It's not officially been confirmed has it?

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 18:27

    It's not officially been confirmed has it?

    The FIA published a statement, see the break-out thread

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 18:27

    It's not officially been confirmed has it?

    It has, yup: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/12/03/sauber-secure-13th-grid-slot-for-2010/

  • RG03/12/2009 at 18:27

    It's not officially been confirmed has it?

    There is a breakout thread and I'm super duper happy smiley facey. So I think so, yes.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 18:29

    Or at least if we had some good news to look forward to, seems F1 is set on self destruct

    There is lots of good news. We are finally getting rid of the manufacturers and we have new teams and drivers coming into the sport. We have seen the back of Max. Bridgestone are going which means no more stupid green stripes on the tyres. We have Alosno back in a competitive car and the possibility of Ferrari getting interesting again.

    I can see lots of good news.

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:31

    It has, yup: http://sidepod...h-grid-slot-for-2010/

    Ah, missed that, so some good news then

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 18:32

    Evening all,

    Are Renault still in F1 ?

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 18:33

    Good evening

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 18:33

    Are Renault still in F1 ?

    for now but they'll probably be bought out if not

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 18:33

    Are Renault still in F1 ?

    Hi Gavin

    We're awaiting the outcome of today's meeting

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 18:33

    Good evening

    Hey Pat

  • RG03/12/2009 at 18:34

    Hey Gavin and Pat

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 18:34

    Are Renault still in F1 ?

    Just about. A lot of sources expecting Prodrive to buy the team but no decision from the Renault management meeting yet. Being French they are probably still at lunch

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 18:34

    Not long enough! It can't be time to countdown to the season already.

    It is traditional to mark every 10 days until February. I may have made that up.

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:34

    for now but they'll probably be bought out if not

    Prodrive are always saying yes we'll enter when the time is right .. but it never is

  • jackie / saltire03/12/2009 at 18:36

    It is traditional to mark every 10 days until February. I may have made that up.

    It should be a tradition :P

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 18:41

    Basically it would be unpaid but I'd be helping out on te marketing side of things with all the merchandise and such. I'd only be there 3 days a week though. Nevertheless, I really want to work there.

    Sounds like a really good way to get a foot in the door, congrats.

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 18:44

    The Indy car had come all the way from the Henry Ford Museum to be restored and then once it's done it will go back over and then make an appearance at Goodwood. Plus they also had one of Clark's cars from 1963. I did also ask if they had any of the '90s cars with the Lambo engines. They said they did, but they were locked away in a shed on site.

    The Indy car was on static display at Goodwood this year, I took pics and remember seeing something that said they were hoping to get it running in time for next year's event. Almost worth going just for that.

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 18:54

    It is traditional to mark every 10 days until February. I may have made that up.

    It should be a tradition :P

    Aha, the link Mr C posted was for F1Wolf. I remember his 'every 10 days' posts last year, maybe that's where I got that from

  • Alianora La Canta03/12/2009 at 18:56

    4 days old and I've already seen more pictures of him than I have of DC's kid :D {Comment #337}

    That would be quite simple in my case - if David's kid have five heads I wouldn't know because I've never seen a picture of him...

  • RG03/12/2009 at 19:02

    There is a debrief on this Sunday, yes?

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 19:03

    More Brian Kerramba USF1 magic

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAD9uD_fBhY

  • Alianora La Canta03/12/2009 at 19:07

    and from Mr Noble

    Sauber has been handed the 13th slot on the 2010 Formula 1 grid, the FIA has just confirmed {Comment #375}

    This is great news for F1 and the best possible news for Hinwil. We need more people like Peter Sauber in the world :)

  • Alianora La Canta03/12/2009 at 19:08

    Christmas came early for RG! {Comment #378}

    If my guesstimations are correct, I think Christmas is about to come early for me too (Sauber represents Fisi's best chance of a full-time 2010 race seat).

  • RG03/12/2009 at 19:10

    Quick plug, I bet you can't guess on what:

    http://thenorthernwaffler.blogspot.com/2009/12/sweet-dreams-are-made-of-these.html

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 19:19

    There is a debrief on this Sunday, yes?

    Hopefully yes.

  • RG03/12/2009 at 19:25

    Hopefully yes.

    Shall get the voice out for some voicemailling then.

  • Kathi03/12/2009 at 19:30

    I'm very disappointed in you Mr Kulta. Well anyway I'm going to bed. Good night everyone.

  • RG03/12/2009 at 19:31

    I'm very disappointed in you Mr Kulta. Well anyway I'm going to bed. Good night everyone.

    Byeeee

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 19:31

    See ya Kathi

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 19:31

    Good night Kathi

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 19:57

    Well, here are my Thursday Thoughts: http://f1numbers.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/thursday-thoughts-engine-parity/

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 20:12

    And here's a post from me on today's news:

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/12/drive-to-survive.html

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 20:16

    So what have we learned from testing?

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 20:18

    So what have we learned from testing?

    That we want footage to generate some interest

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 20:18

    So what have we learned from testing?

    That Disco Dan likes Disco Music.

    And that he actually might be quite fast.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 20:19

    That Disco Dan likes Disco Music.

    And that DD is a silly nickname

  • Maverick03/12/2009 at 20:19

    So what have we learned from testing?

    Hulkenberg needs to watch our for road cones in the pitlane

  • Lukeh03/12/2009 at 20:20

    And that DD is a silly nickname

    He added fuel to the fire with that pose!

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 20:24

    So what have we learned from testing?

    Paffett should have been in F1 ages ago and Paul di Resta looks to be finally getting a foot in the door

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 20:25

    Paffett should have been in F1 ages ago and Paul di Resta looks to be finally getting a foot in the door

    He's been in the top 3 on all 3 days. That's gotta count for something. He needs a 3rd and test driver role with Force India and they need to have a few of these test days through next season.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 20:35

    Just posted my Thursday Thoughts at http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/blog/index.php/1311/thursday-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-912

  • Kimster/Samy03/12/2009 at 20:47

    hi guys

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 20:54

    hi guys

    Hi.

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 20:54

    Toby Moody just tweeted this video of Group B rally cars. I'd never really understood the appeal... until now.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozntieZs8Bg

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 21:01

    *waves from geek zone*

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 21:01

    Toby Moody just tweeted this video of Group B rally cars. I'd never really understood the appeal... until now.

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=ozntieZs8Bg

    Those were the days. I am just old enough to remember seeing these monsters in person!

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:10

    My Thursday Thoughts:

    http://zerodownforce.blogspot.com/2009/12/thursday-thoughts-is-engine-parity.html

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:10

    Toby Moody just tweeted this video of Group B rally cars. I'd never really understood the appeal... until now.

    http://www.you...m/watch?v=ozntieZs8Bg

    They were awesome cars. Insane but awesome. I will never understand why there was never an accident with a hundred fans killed in some rally at that time. It took forever before they started treating safety seriously

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:12

    They were awesome cars. Insane but awesome. I will never understand why there was never an accident with a hundred fans killed in some rally at that time. It took forever before they started treating safety seriously

    Trouble was, the FIA were too busy fussing over F1 at the time that they never really paid proper attention to the WRC at that time and just let it run amock. Only Henri Toivonen's fatal accident in Corsica sparked their attention once again and got them sorting it out properly.

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 21:13

    They were awesome cars. Insane but awesome. I will never understand why there was never an accident with a hundred fans killed in some rally at that time. It took forever before they started treating safety seriously

    From watching the video, the cars were hairy and dangerous and the rest of it but the bigger concern for me was the spectators just standing in the middle of the road! Some of them were very lucky. That could have happened with any car.

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 21:13

    My Thursday Thoughts:

    http://zerodow...is-engine-parity.html

    I'm trying to come up with a response.

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 21:14

    I'm trying to come up with a response.

    to the question i mean

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:14

    From watching the video, the cars were hairy and dangerous and the rest of it but the bigger concern for me was the spectators just standing in the middle of the road! Some of them were very lucky. That could have happened with any car.

    It's said that at the end of a stage, a severed finger was found in the door mirror once!

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:14

    It's said that at the end of a stage, a severed finger was found in the door mirror of a car* once!

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:19

    I also happen to know that for 1987, Audi were in the process of developing a new engine for the Quattro which was reportedly going to produce 1000hp.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:20

    Trouble was, the FIA were too busy fussing over F1 at the time that they never really paid proper attention to the WRC at that time and just let it run amock. Only Henri Toivonen's fatal accident in Corsica sparked their attention once again and got them sorting it out properly.

    There was a batch of big accidents. Ari had ahuge on in Argentine and Bettega was killed as well.

  • jpancoast03/12/2009 at 21:20

    From watching the video, the cars were hairy and dangerous and the rest of it but the bigger concern for me was the spectators just standing in the middle of the road! Some of them were very lucky. That could have happened with any car.

    I still see spectators doing that. Rally drivers are a special kind of crazy, those spectators are even specialer!

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:20

    I also happen to know that for 1987, Audi were in the process of developing a new engine for the Quattro which was reportedly going to produce 1000hp.

    I suspect someone was about to fit rockets to their car, the way things were going. Would have worked well, with all those wings.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:22

    It's said that at the end of a stage, a severed finger was found in the door mirror once!

    Wouldn't be surprised. I remember driver interviews where the driver would say they just aimed at the fans because they would get out of the way. Totally iresponsible.

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:23

    Wouldn't be surprised. I remember driver interviews where the driver would say they just aimed at the fans because they would get out of the way. Totally iresponsible.

    'twas lucky McRae wasn't driving at the time!

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:24

    I also happen to know that for 1987, Audi were in the process of developing a new engine for the Quattro which was reportedly going to produce 1000hp.

    Audi's problem was not power but the location of the engine. It was a transverse wngine in front of the front axle line. That didn't matter to begin with because they had a huge advantage with 4 wheel drive but one Lancia, Peugeot etc got their cars sorted the Quattro had a big problem.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:24

    There was a batch of big accidents. Ari had ahuge on in Argentine and Bettega was killed as well.

    Indeed. Don't forget Sergio Cresto's accident on the Sintra stage of Rally Portugal that tragically killed 30 spectators. There's a clip of that accident and Tony Pond adamantly saying he would not continue at the risk of killing spectators.

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:26

    Indeed. Don't forget Sergio Cresto's accident on the Sintra stage of Rally Portugal that tragically killed 30 spectators. There's a clip of that accident and Tony Pond adamantly saying he would not continue at the risk of killing spectators.

    Hence, "Killer Bs".

    Man they looked great though.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:26

    I still see spectators doing that. Rally drivers are a special kind of crazy, those spectators are even specialer!

    In most rallies now there are marshals actually doing their job rather than using their tabard to get a good position to take photos. Once the course cars started offering marshals the choice of handing over their tabards or their cameras the marshals became a bit more interested in marshalling. Then the organisers started cancelling stages if the crowd was in dangerous positions.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:26

    Audi's problem was not power but the location of the engine. It was a transverse wngine in front of the front axle line. That didn't matter to begin with because they had a huge advantage with 4 wheel drive but one Lancia, Peugeot etc got their cars sorted the Quattro had a big problem.

    Yup, all that weight ahead of the front wheels meant handling was a problem. That, plus the car was on the clumsy side anyways.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:29

    Indeed. Don't forget Sergio Cresto's accident on the Sintra stage of Rally Portugal that tragically killed 30 spectators. There's a clip of that accident and Tony Pond adamantly saying he would not continue at the risk of killing spectators.

    Shame he needed to see so many people killed before he realised the problem. Cresto was Toivenen's co-driver

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:29

    In most rallies now there are marshals actually doing their job rather than using their tabard to get a good position to take photos. Once the course cars started offering marshals the choice of handing over their tabards or their cameras the marshals became a bit more interested in marshalling. Then the organisers started cancelling stages if the crowd was in dangerous positions.

    Unfortunately, here in Oz, they have gone crazy safe. You can't walk out into a stage any more, there are selected "spectator spots" where you are placed about 200m away from the cars and get to see them "over there somewhere". Lucky I actually got to see Ari Vatter(lots of letters) up close back in the day

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:30

    Shame he needed to see so many people killed before he realised the problem. Cresto was Toivenen's co-driver

    Oh yeah, that's right. I meant Joaquim Santos in a Ford RS200.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:30

    Unfortunately, here in Oz, they have gone crazy safe. You can't walk out into a stage any more, there are selected "spectator spots" where you are placed about 200m away from the cars and get to see them "over there somewhere". Lucky I actually got to see Ari Vatter(lots of letters) up close back in the day

    I haven't been out on a rally stage in years but I always liked to be next to a substantial tree just in case.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:31

    Oh yeah, that's right. I meant Joaquim Santos in a Ford RS200.

    I remember that. Louise Aitken had a huge accident on Sintra as well where her and Tina Thorner ended up sunk in a lake and had to swim out of the car.

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:31

    I haven't been out on a rally stage in years but I always liked to be next to a substantial tree just in case.

    Sure, but at least you could get out there. Now days, they call off teh stage if a spectator is seen outside the designated area. Ah, the good old days....

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 21:31

    I can't say I've ever wanted to attend a rally...

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:32

    Sure, but at least you could get out there. Now days, they call off teh stage if a spectator is seen outside the designated area. Ah, the good old days....

    In a British forest if you are more than a couple of metres from the side of the road you can only see trees.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 21:33

    I remember that. Louise Aitken had a huge accident on Sintra as well where her and Tina Thorner ended up sunk in a lake and had to swim out of the car.

    Wasn't that the one where her Astra tumbled down the side of the hill and there's shots of her swimming in the water?

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:33

    I can't say I've ever wanted to attend a rally...

    You've never seen a BDA Escort sliding at full speed? Awesome

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:33

    I can't say I've ever wanted to attend a rally...

    It is a great atmosphere and awesome experience.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:33

    Wasn't that the one where her Astra tumbled down the side of the hill and there's shots of her swimming in the water?

    Yes

  • Andy Taylor03/12/2009 at 21:35

    Evening all :)

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 21:35

    It is a great atmosphere and awesome experience.

    In Britain it means standing around in a cold, wet, muddy forest freezing your nads off to watch maybe 8 WRC cars and a host of 1600cc or less junior categories, that's if the stage isn't cancelled because of the conditions or some other thing.. Maybe I could do a summer one but they are miles away.

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:35

    Hi Andy

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 21:36

    Evening all :)

    Evening

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 21:36

    In Britain it means standing around in a cold, wet, muddy forest freezing your nads off to watch maybe 8 WRC cars and a host of 1600cc or less junior categories, that's if the stage isn't cancelled because of the conditions or some other thing.. Maybe I could do a summer one but they are miles away.

    That is one of the reasons I haven't been on a stage for a while. That and the fact the RAC is only in Wales now.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 21:37

    Why do people insist on shouting in librarys whilst on the phone?!?

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 21:37

    Why do people insist on shouting in librarys whilst on the phone?!?

    Because consideration is a dying trait?

  • Andy Taylor03/12/2009 at 21:37

    Why do people insist on shouting in librarys whilst on the phone?!?

    No side tone.

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:38

    Why do people insist on shouting in librarys whilst on the phone?!?

    Same reason they do it in the supermarket. Do what I do - answer all their questions.

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 21:38

    That is one of the reasons I haven't been on a stage for a while. That and the fact the RAC is only in Wales now.

    I nearly went to the Sunseeker which is near Poole I think, but I couldn't get motivated enough, not knowing any of the drivers.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 21:39

    I guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow for Renault news

    About 4:30 then?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 21:39

    Because consideration is a dying trait?

    It's almost empty anyway, so i think she's purposely searched for the most densely filled area and then her phone went

    HELLO

    IM IN A LIBRARY

    (and no she wasn't doing a Dom Jolly impression)

  • Andy Taylor03/12/2009 at 21:41

    (and no she wasn't doing a Dom Jolly impression)

    But did her phone play the "Nokia" theme?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 21:42

    But did her phone play the "Nokia" theme?

    Nope. Some song that was TOO loud, i know this because the water from my ears (just been swimming) has only just gone, so my hearing is still a bit rubbish.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)03/12/2009 at 21:49

    Night guys!

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 21:49

    G'night Gavin

  • Andy Taylor03/12/2009 at 21:50

    Nope. Some song that was TOO loud, i know this because the water from my ears (just been swimming) has only just gone, so my hearing is still a bit rubbish.

    Perhaps she'd been swimming too? ;)

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 21:50

    Perhaps she'd been swimming too? ;)

    hmmmm

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 21:52

    Night guys!

    night

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 21:52

    Night Gavin

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:52

    So, Daniel Ricciardo eh? Might be the next Aussi in F1. I wonder is Red Bull might put him in STR to replace Tim?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 21:53

    So, Daniel Ricciardo eh? Might be the next Aussi in F1. I wonder is Red Bull might put him in STR to replace Tim?

    that would be very very very naughty

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:54

    that would be very very very naughty

    Why?

    Oh and I suppose you will now tell me Ricciardo is already signed up for F Renault next year.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 21:55

    Why?

    Apparently Jaime has already signed a contract for next year

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 21:56

    Why?

    Apparently Jaime has already signed a contract for next year

    What he said

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:56

    Apparently Jaime has already signed a contract for next year

    He has? Ah well.

    Seems all my hopefuls have nowhere to go. I've given up on DiResta

  • paul03/12/2009 at 21:59

    What he said

    My excuse is it's not on the SPC "who goes where".

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 22:00

    My excuse is it's not on the SPC "who goes where".

    Because it hasn't been officially confirmed yet by Torro Rosso.

    Tims management have said a contract has been signed

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:00

    My excuse is it's not on the SPC "who goes where".

    Well, it hasn't been confirmed by STR but Jaime's people are saying he has already signed

    A bit 'up in the air' really

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:01

    Tims management have said a contract has been signed

    I wonder if they read it properly

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:02

    Tims management have said a contract has been signed

    Ah. One of "those" contracts. ;-)

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 22:02

    Ooh, I've just noticed this pop up:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/12/03/waving-from-behind-the-barriers/

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 22:04

    Ooh, I've just noticed this pop up:

    http://www.sid...-behind-the-barriers/

    It's been there for 2.5 hours ;)

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:04

    Ooh, I've just noticed this pop up:

    http://www.sid...-behind-the-barriers/

    Works best if read in a Steven Roy voice.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 22:05

    Works best if read in a Steven Roy voice.

    That's funny, because when I read it now, I do just that in my head.

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:05

    That's funny, because when I read it now, I do just that in my head.

    Me too :D

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 22:05

    Works best if read in a Steven Roy voice.

    Really?

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 22:05

    That's funny, because when I read it now, I do just that in my head.

    Odd

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:06

    Really?

    Really.

    Apologies to Scott, who I am sure does a great Scottish impersonation.

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:07

    Odd

    I blame Steven Roy (obviously). He's been in my ear on the way to work every morning this week.

  • RG03/12/2009 at 22:08

    I blame Steven Roy (obviously). He's been in my ear on the way to work every morning this week.

    I think on my podcasty catchy upy rota means I get to listen to Mr Roy tonight.

  • Scott Woodwiss03/12/2009 at 22:09

    I blame Steven Roy (obviously). He's been in my ear on the way to work every morning this week.

    Same, although not the listening to work every morning bit. :P

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 22:09

    I think on my podcasty catchy upy rota means I get to listen to Mr Roy tonight.

    I am down to 792 podcasts! Sub-800! This is a milestone.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:09

    I am down to 792 podcasts! Sub-800! This is a milestone.

    Do you ever think that you might be over-subscribing a little?

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 22:10

    Do you ever think that you might be over-subscribing a little?

    Yup. But they're all good.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:11

    Yup. But they're all good.

    Can't say fairer than that

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 22:11

    Hmm, 2 hours before I leave for the airport. I should probably start packing...

    And good morning!

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:11

    Yup. But they're all good.

    They are? You must put a listening list up somewhere.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:11

    Hi Sean

    Hope Brisbane treats you well

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 22:12

    my Thursday Thoughts entry... which became a bit of a rant..

    http://toomuchracing.blogspot.com/2009/12/thursday-thoughts-f1-engine-parity.html

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 22:12

    So, Daniel Ricciardo eh? Might be the next Aussi in F1. I wonder is Red Bull might put him in STR to replace Tim?

    He's one to keep hold of, for sure

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 22:12

    Hi Sean

    Hope Brisbane treats you well

    Cheers. And yeah, hopefully is probably a good word to use as well. ;)

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 22:12

    They are? You must put a listening list up somewhere.

    Wrote one last year: http://sidepodcast.com/2009/01/05/is-that-an-ipod-in-your-pocket/

    Perhaps it is time for an update.

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:14

    Wrote one last year: http://sidepod...-ipod-in-your-pocket/

    *kicks self*

    Look at the wiki boy.

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 22:14

    I am down to 792 podcasts! Sub-800! This is a milestone.

    That's roughly the same number of RSS articles currently unread in Google Reader...

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 22:16

    I am down to 792 podcasts! Sub-800! This is a milestone.

    Well done

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 22:17

    So, Daniel Ricciardo eh? Might be the next Aussi in F1. I wonder is Red Bull might put him in STR to replace Tim?

    I think he could be the third driver next season for either Red Bull or Toro Rosso

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 22:23

    I think he could be the third driver next season for either Red Bull or Toro Rosso

    I think he should do that and do GP2

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:24

    I think he should do that and do GP2

    Is it GP2 he's doing? I thought it was one of the Renault formulas?

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 22:25

    I think he should do that and do GP2

    and change his name to Sebastian

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 22:25

    Is it GP2 he's doing? I thought it was one of the Renault formulas?

    No idea. I have no idea whats happening with him

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:25

    No idea. I have no idea whats happening with him

    Aren't you Mr Feeder Series? ;-)

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 22:26

    Is it GP2 he's doing? I thought it was one of the Renault formulas?

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/11/29/who-are-they-anyway-red-bull-young-drivers/

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:27

    Is it GP2 he's doing? I thought it was one of the Renault formulas?

    From Wikipedia:

    World Series by Renault - On 30 October 2009, Ricciardo was signed by Tech 1 to compete in the 2010 season

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 22:27

    Aren't you Mr Feeder Series? ;-)

    WSR (Thanks Christine)

    I hadn't heard that. But my excuse is that i dont pay much attention to F3

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:29

    I hadn't heard that. But my excuse is that i dont pay much attention to F3

    Neither do I, until I heard someone called Ricciardo was an Australian ;-)

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 22:30

    Neither do I, until I heard someone called Ricciardo was an Australian ;-)

    I heard of him at the end of the season when he won, usually I watch F3 on Channel 4, but not this season

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:32

    Jon, what is WSR - 3.5 litre? How does it compare to GP2 and F2?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 22:34

    Jon, what is WSR - 3.5 litre? How does it compare to GP2 and F2?

    WSR is technically the name of the events, the WSR that we think of is actually called Renault 3.5

    In terms of performance/lap times, GP2 is fastest, followed by Renault and F2 is quite a bit off that, but alot cheaper, so each has it's own positives/negatives!

    I'm off home, see y'all in 10

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:35

    In terms of performance/lap times, GP2 is fastest, followed by Renault and F2 is quite a bit off that, but alot cheaper, so each has it's own positives/negatives!

    OK, thanks.

  • me03/12/2009 at 22:38

    3hrs later:

    http://sidepodcast.com/2009/12/03/thursday-thoughts-is-engine-parity-necessary-for-2010/

  • lou03/12/2009 at 22:39

    *kicks off ridiculously high heels*

    hi everyone? all had a good thursday?

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:39

    3hrs later:

    Hello Sir

    I sent you & Christine an MFC related link for digital publication content earlier

  • RG03/12/2009 at 22:39

    *kicks off ridiculously high heels*

    hi everyone? all had a good thursday?

    Hi lou.

    Yes, Thursday has been awesome.

  • paul03/12/2009 at 22:39

    *kicks off ridiculously high heels*

    hi everyone? all had a good thursday?

    Thursday was totally awful. Luckily, it is now Friday.

  • lou03/12/2009 at 22:39

    Yes, Thursday has been awesome.

    wow!

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:39

    Hi Lou

    I think the Sauber news has pleased all

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 22:40

    *kicks off ridiculously high heels*

    hi everyone? all had a good thursday?

    hi. it has been ok

  • me03/12/2009 at 22:40

    I sent you & Christine an MFC related link for digital publication content earlier

    sent it how?

  • RG03/12/2009 at 22:40

    wow!

    I'm not sure why though...

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:40

    sent it how?

    Emailed to you each

    Couldn't see an appropriate and recent MFC article

  • Christine03/12/2009 at 22:42

    Emailed to you each

    I got it. Will explain how email works to Mr C.

  • lou03/12/2009 at 22:42

    I think the Sauber news has pleased all

    ahhh yes that is good news :) my day has been sooo long.. and my feet hurt alot.. note to self never attempt to sing in/do front of house/back stage at a concert in really high heels...

    also.. playing tennis in the rain for 2 hours today wasn't great... but the sauber news makes my day worth it :D

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:42

    I got it. Will explain how email works to Mr C.

    :D

    Which is why I sent it to you too

  • me03/12/2009 at 22:43

    also.. playing tennis in the rain for 2 hours today wasn't great... but the sauber news makes my day worth it :D

    in heels?

  • RG03/12/2009 at 22:43

    also.. playing tennis in the rain for 2 hours today wasn't great... but the sauber news makes my day worth it :D

    It made my day, yesterday's day and tomorrow has already started very well.

  • me03/12/2009 at 22:43

    I got it. Will explain how email works to Mr C.

    :D
    Which is why I sent it to you too

    i don't have it??

    meanies :(

  • lou03/12/2009 at 22:43

    in heels?

    eheheh noooooo.... but i might as well have.. it was horrible. i got absolutely drenched :(

  • lou03/12/2009 at 22:43

    It made my day, yesterday's day and tomorrow has already started very well.

    :D :D :D

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:44

    i don't have it??

    me at sidepodcast dot com?

  • me03/12/2009 at 22:44

    me at sidepodcast dot com?

    yup.

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 22:44

    in heels?

    That would be quite amusing actually.

  • me03/12/2009 at 22:44

    me at sidepodcast dot com?

    yup.

    oh.wait.

    i do have it. bugger.

  • me03/12/2009 at 22:45

    oh.wait.

    i do have it. bugger.

    ...

    ...

    nope, there's no way of commenting my way out of this one.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:45

    i do have it. bugger.

    :lol:

    Another point to Christine ;)

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 22:45

    also.. playing tennis in the rain for 2 hours today wasn't great... but the sauber news makes my day worth it :D

    You definitely shouldn't play tennis in high heels]

  • lou03/12/2009 at 22:49

    oh actually something good did happen to me today..

    i found out i won x3 prizes in the annual inter school photography competition yesterday.. and what makes it even better was it was x2 1sts and x1 third.. the 2 1st prizes were for motorsport related shots so i'm told.

    1 for this one, and another for and i quote 'a photo of a car on a track' and i entered a few panning shots so i'm not sure which one...

    But yay for them liking my motorsport related photographs, tis encouraging for my future.. kinda...

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 22:50

    i found out i won x3 prizes in the annual inter school photography competition yesterday.. and what makes it even better was it was x2 1sts and x1 third.. the 2 1st prizes were for motorsport related shots so i'm told.

    YAY! :D

    Go Lou!

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:50

    i found out i won x3 prizes in the annual inter school photography competition yesterday..

    Cool. Well done

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 22:50

    i found out i won x3 prizes in the annual inter school photography competition yesterday.. and what makes it even better was it was x2 1sts and x1 third.. the 2 1st prizes were for motorsport related shots so i'm told.

    Congrats!

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 22:51

    oh actually something good did happen to me today..

    Well done Lou

  • RG03/12/2009 at 22:51

    i found out i won x3 prizes in the annual inter school photography competition yesterday.. and what makes it even better was it was x2 1sts and x1 third.. the 2 1st prizes were for motorsport related shots so i'm told.

    Yay for lou :D

  • lou03/12/2009 at 22:51

    Well done Lou

    since i've been freaking out the last few days about not being right for photography (stupid nerves etc) it's the piece of encouragement i needed i think...

  • RG03/12/2009 at 22:59

    Right, bed for me. Sweet Sauber dreams for me tonight :D.

    I'll try not to dream about Jaques in the car though. Anways, night all. lotsa love.

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 22:59

    Night RG

  • lou03/12/2009 at 22:59

    I'll try not to dream about Jaques in the car though. Anways, night all. lotsa love.

    night RG :)

  • me03/12/2009 at 23:00

    I'll try not to dream about Jaques in the car though. Anways, night all. lotsa love.

    ooh, did you see this:

    http://www.f1minute.com/2009/12/02/captain-america/

    is it me, or is that hildebrand a dead-ringer for jv?

  • me03/12/2009 at 23:00

    Yay for lou :D

    seconded :)

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 23:00

    Right, bed for me. Sweet Sauber dreams for me tonight :D.

    night

  • Bassano Clapper03/12/2009 at 23:00

    is it me, or is that hildebrand a dead-ringer for jv?

    Based on a shot of his eyes?

    I think it's just you

  • me03/12/2009 at 23:01

    Based on a shot of his eyes?

    oh.

  • RG03/12/2009 at 23:01

    is it me, or is that hildebrand a dead-ringer for jv?

    Ermmmm?

    You seeing things that I ain't here?

  • lou03/12/2009 at 23:02

    Yay for lou :D

    seconded :)

    thank you :)

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 23:18

    Finished packing.

    Lunch time!!

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 23:38

    Has lou gone?

  • lou03/12/2009 at 23:40

    Has lou gone?

    i'm here... just.. how can i help you?

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 23:43

    i'm here... just.. how can i help you?

    Did you get my twitter?

  • lou03/12/2009 at 23:43

    Did you get my twitter?

    i'll check..

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 23:44

    i'll check..

    dm

  • lou03/12/2009 at 23:45

    i'll check..

    dm

    oh you mean from earlier today? not just sent. i did, thank you so much :) will act on it tomorrow morning :)

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 23:45

    oh you mean from earlier today? not just sent. i did, thank you so much :) will act on it tomorrow morning :)

    cool, just wanted to check

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 23:45

    cool, just wanted to check

    if you need any more then just shout.

  • lou03/12/2009 at 23:48

    if you need any more then just shout.

    thank you! :)

    i must sleep now though. it's been a busy day.

    night all! xx

  • Sean Golding03/12/2009 at 23:48

    i must sleep now though. it's been a busy day.

    night all! xx

    Night.

  • Jon Waldock03/12/2009 at 23:49

    Nightlou

  • Steven Roy03/12/2009 at 23:49

    Good night Lou

  • Pat W03/12/2009 at 23:51

    i must sleep now though. it's been a busy day.

    night all! xx

    night

  • Sean Golding04/12/2009 at 00:07

    Alright then, I'm off to the airport. I'll catch y'all in a couple of days.

    Have fun!

  • Pat W04/12/2009 at 00:09

    Alright then, I'm off to the airport. I'll catch y'all in a couple of days.

    see ya

  • me04/12/2009 at 00:09

    Alright then, I'm off to the airport. I'll catch y'all in a couple of days.

    blimey. see ya sean.

  • Jon Waldock04/12/2009 at 00:10

    Alright then, I'm off to the airport. I'll catch y'all in a couple of days.

    byeeeeee, have fun!