Hello, welcome, it's another day. We are almost at the end of August. How has that happened?

  • We've just enjoyed the return of F1 after the summer break, with a mixed up race in Spa. Have you found time to Rate the Race yet? You can score it out of ten and pick your driver of the day. There's lots of discussion in there, including pondering how the DRS worked out. Also make sure you view Tony's race position chart - it is a great way of visualising the movement in the race.
  • RG has written up a "new" team championship update. Who would have thought Jarno Trulli would be leading?
  • As a Pastor fan, Lou (not JB über-fan Lou) has written her thoughts about the Pastor Maldonado and Lewis Hamilton incident. Good to see things from all points of view.

That'll do for now. Oh, don't forget it's Christine's Rankings day today so if you've seen anything pointsworthy over the last seven days, do highlight it in the comments or Twitter. Lou (JB über-fan) made a new hashtag which I definitely approve of.

@mrschristine major points for mclaren this week in #christinesrankings for letting fans HOLD the Spa trophy? - http://t.co/M9UbQph


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Share your finds and I will dispense judgement as I see fit!

239 responses

  • Amy30/08/2011 at 10:27

    Hello almost end of August. Most importantly, hello end of winter!

    #sorryotherhemisphere

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 10:28

    Good golly, it's Tuesday

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 11:16

    Good golly, it's Tuesday

    All day too!

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 11:16

    All day too!

    Hooray !!!!

    :D

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 11:51

    Hehehehee...

    Williams Press Release:

    Q: Pastor came together with Lewis Hamilton in qualifying. What was your reaction to his five-place grid penalty?

    "Sam Michael: I understand the penalty applied by the stewards of the meeting and respect it."

    Translation

    "Pastor was an idiot and got what he deserved"

    :D

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 12:01

    Hi again!

    What has happened to the world?

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 12:09

    "Pastor was an idiot and got what he deserved"

    I manage a spanish f1 twitter account which has 18000 followers, 19% of them from Venezuela.

    They wanted to kill Hamilton! They are very angry with him, same as some spanish fans.

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 12:12

    Hehehehee...

    Williams Press Release:

    Q: Pastor came together with Lewis Hamilton in qualifying. What was your reaction to his five-place grid penalty?

    "Sam Michael: I understand the penalty applied by the stewards of the meeting and respect it."

    Translation

    "Pastor was an idiot and got what he deserved"

    :D

    DING DING! :D

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 12:14

    They wanted to kill Hamilton! They are very angry with him, same as some spanish fans.

    Yeah. Too much "us vs. them" in F1 fandom these days.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 12:15

    They wanted to kill Hamilton! They are very angry with him, same as some spanish fans.

    Yikes

    Yeah. Too much "us vs. them" in F1 fandom these days.

    Absolutely

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 12:21

    They wanted to kill Hamilton! They are very angry with him, same as some spanish fans.

    Yikes

    Yeah. Too much "us vs. them" in F1 fandom these days.

    Absolutely

    It goes with the territory of being one of the best. Think about it: every title-winning driver since Alan Jones has been hated in some shape or form. The biggest examples are Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, and Hamilton. As for Vettel, people don't hate him so much as dislike him for the finger.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 12:22

    It goes with the territory of being one of the best. Think about it: every title-winning driver since Alan Jones has been hated in some shape or form. The biggest examples are Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, and Hamilton. As for Vettel, people don't hate him so much as dislike him for the finger.

    Aye - Hill and Villeneuve rarely polarised folks enough to be hated. Very rarely heard heard hate for Mika.

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 12:27

    Aye - Hill and Villeneuve rarely polarised folks enough to be hated. Very rarely heard heard hate for Mika.

    Agree with you on Damon and Mika. Especially Mika.

    Jacques... well, he got annoying after a while.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 12:28

    Jacques... well, he got annoying after a while.

    True, but only later on.

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 12:37

    True, but only later on.

    Post-1997. And Hill lost a bit of popularity around then too...

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 12:38

    Post-1997. And Hill lost a bit of popularity around then too...

    Absolutely

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 12:39

    Share your finds and I will dispense judgement as I see fit!

    Karun Chandhok for giving a lift to @virtualstatesman even though he didn't know who he was #points

    http://twitter.com/#!/virtualstatman/status/107880750707253248

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 12:41

    Adam C stirring the pot here:

    "An ex-McLaren driver told me the team 'can't afford to keep Jenson because they pay Lewis so much.' Make of that what you will..."

    Add to that the rumors that Jenson has talked to Ferrari, and you get a rather interesting mix.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 12:41

    So, Giedo van der Garde is currently 2nd in the GP2 Series. He has not won a race for 2 years. There's one round left in 2011...

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 12:42

    So, Giedo van der Garde is currently 2nd in the GP2 Series. He has not won a race for 2 years. There's one round left in 2011...

    No more race in Abu Dhabi?

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 12:43

    Afternoon :)

    I have enlisted my boss in the job hunt.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 12:43

    No more race in Abu Dhabi?

    That's a non-Championship race, for mainly GP3 graduates and newer GP2 drivers this year.

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 12:45

    Add to that the rumors that Jenson has talked to Ferrari, and you get a rather interesting mix.

    Also, what are the odds that said ex-McLaren driver is Martin Brundle? Or it could also be David Coulthard - those two are joined at the hip anyway. :D

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 12:55

    Add to that the rumors that Jenson has talked to Ferrari, and you get a rather interesting mix.

    I hadn't heard that he was.

    He says here that he's ready to sign with McLaren, they just have to ask him - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94139

    And he says he wants to do Le Mans and World Championship triathlon after F1!

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 12:59

    He says here that he's ready to sign with McLaren, they just have to ask him - www.autosport.com…port.php/id/94139

    Which is why Adam C brought this up. If they wanted to keep Button, why haven't they signed him yet? Red Bull already signed Webber - and those two have a difficult relationship. McLaren should well know that the longer they don't sign Button, the more likely someone else will poach him, no matter how unlikely it is. They should know - they got him from Brawn, who was unable to sign him.

    Adam also made a good point that his salary should go up in the option year, partly because of his good results.

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 13:03

    Adam also made a good point that his salary should go up in the option year, partly because of his good results.

    Where BTW?

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 13:07

    I'm really enjoying my day of sorting. Is it wrong to get a warm fuzzy feeling from organising things #sadperson :D

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 13:31

    Which is why Adam C brought this up. If they wanted to keep Button, why haven't they signed him yet? Red Bull already signed Webber - and those two have a difficult relationship. McLaren should well know that the longer they don't sign Button, the more likely someone else will poach him, no matter how unlikely it is. They should know - they got him from Brawn, who was unable to sign him.

    He's not going anywhere though, is he?

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 13:34

    Adam also made a good point that his salary should go up in the option year, partly because of his good results.

    Where BTW?

    http://twitter.com/#!/adamcooperf1/status/108478983418560512

    http://twitter.com/#!/adamcooperf1/status/108479256841043968

    http://twitter.com/#!/adamcooperf1/status/108481638849191936

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 13:34

    He's not going anywhere though, is he?

    He shouldn't. But then, that's what we said when he was talking to Brawn.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 13:35

    He's not going anywhere though, is he?

    I think he'd rather go to Butlin's than leave McLaren right now

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 13:35

    I think he'd rather go to Butlin's than leave McLaren right now

    True, but if the team can't pay for him...

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 13:36

    True, but if the team can't pay for him...

    Skegness beach..?

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 13:37

    "An ex-McLaren driver told me the team 'can't afford to keep Jenson because they pay Lewis so much.' Make of that what you will..."

    Just remembered now - remember when they asked Jenson about his McLaren deal at the end of 2009? He said it was actually lower than what Brawn/Mercedes were offering. I do find it odd that even with that lower figure, McLaren would struggle to pay for it.

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 13:54

    He shouldn't. But then, that's what we said when he was talking to Brawn.

    Different circumstances though. I think we all knew Brawn was a one year phenomenon, McLaren are there every year...

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 13:55

    Skegness beach..?

    I just visited there. My Grandad who lives there was very proud to tell me the news that Skeggy now has a blue flag beach...

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 13:56

    He shouldn't. But then, that's what we said when he was talking to Brawn.

    Different circumstances though. I think we all knew Brawn was a one year phenomenon, McLaren are there every year...

    Well, true, but I think the hesitance is now with the team, rather than the driver. If McLaren doesn't want to pay for him, he'll have to look elsewhere.

  • RG30/08/2011 at 13:56

    I just visited there. My Grandad who lives there was very proud to tell me the news that Skeggy now has a blue flag beach...

    So he's just as well of there than say, going to Virgin...

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 14:00

    There's a new post in my blog where I give my opinion about the Belgian GP drivers' performance.

    Would you like to take a look? :)

    http://martif1.com/2011/08/30/vencedores-y-vencidos-del-gp-de-belgica-el-kaiser-reina-de-nuevo/

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 14:08

    Would you like to take a look? :)

    Rubens Barrichello – Insuficiente!

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 14:11

    Rubens Barrichello – Insuficiente!

    I am a big fan of him, but his race was very bad :(

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 14:13

    I am a big fan of him, but his race was very bad :(

    I just love the word ;)

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 14:15

    #IndyCar

    Am hearing interesting names to replace Danica at Andretti Autosport - top of the list is apparently... Dan Wheldon

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 14:15

    Would you like to take a look? :)

    Where did that pic of Alonso come from? What a moustache!

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 14:16

    I just love the word ;)

    Believe me, when you take an exam in high school, or in the university, this is the last word you want to hear!

    Its meaning is Fail.

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 14:17

    Well, i don't know if 'fail' is the world.

    It's when you take an exam an you do less of the 50% right ;)

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 14:17

    Michael Schumacher – Excelente!

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 14:18

    Michael Schumacher – Excelente!

    Scorchio!

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 14:18

    Michael Schumacher – Excelente!

    Yeah, Kaiser is back :D

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 14:18

    Well, i don't know if 'fail' is the world.

    Yes that's fine. We might say unsatisfactory, insufficient. It's clear what you mean.

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 14:20

    Yes that's fine. We might say unsatisfactory, insufficient. It's clear what you mean.

    Massive success then :D

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 14:20

    Michael Schumacher – Excelente!

    Scorchio!

    :D

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 14:21

    Am hearing interesting names to replace Danica at Andretti Autosport - top of the list is apparently... Dan Wheldon

    Dannyca

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 14:22

    Dannyca

    DANICAR

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 14:22

    Dannyca

    Well he does have simply fabulous teeth

    :D

  • RubberGoat30/08/2011 at 14:22

    DANICAR

    Someone needs to make that logo!

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 14:23

    Someone needs to make that logo!

    Hehehe

    I know someone did a logo for "Danistar" at one point. Can't remember who though.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 14:54

    How low can you go? As low as AUTOSPORT using a dead man to sell magazines.

    http://twitter.com/#!/henryhopefrost/status/108547286417682432

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 14:56

    How low can you go? As low as AUTOSPORT using a dead man to sell magazines.

    twitter.com/#!/he…08547286417682432

    Ouch. I know he works for them, but is HHF an official spokesman for Autosport though?

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 14:56

    Some days I love twitter. Managed to get ripped into BT and Autosport in the same day.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 14:56

    Ouch. I know he works for them, but is HHF an official spokesman for Autosport though?

    And no I don't mean Heinz-Harald.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 14:57

    Ouch. I know he works for them, but is HHF an official spokesman for Autosport though?

    No idea. But it is up to them to deal with him now. Saying there is a tribute in the mag is fine but saying buy the mag to pay your respects is despicable

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 14:57

    No idea. But it is up to them to deal with him now. Saying there is a tribute in the mag is fine but saying buy the mag to pay your respects is despicable

    Absolutely.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 14:59

    Got to go now. Hopefully BT will have me reconnected soon now that they have decided I don't need to pay the zero pounds zero pence that was outsanding that caused them to cut off my phone

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 14:59

    I'm very confused. My university have emailed me. Would you say "Faculty of Social and Human Science" is where you'd look for "Maths"

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 15:00

    Got to go now. Hopefully BT will have me reconnected soon now that they have decided I don't need to pay the zero pounds zero pence that was outsanding that caused them to cut off my phone

    Ah fabulous. I've received bills threatening court action over an outstanding balance of £0 before. Computer says no.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 15:00

    I'm very confused. My university have emailed me. Would you say "Faculty of Social and Human Science" is where you'd look for "Maths"

    Checktheirwebsite

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 15:04
  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 15:10

    i wonder who else we can pay our respects to, by purchasing haymarket tat?

    it's the anniversary of diana's death tomorrow... copy of f1 racing anyone?

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 15:11

    it's the anniversary of diana's death tomorrow... copy of f1 racing anyone?

    SOLD !! No wait. Sorry, I seem to have left my conscience in the pub - back in a minute.

  • RG30/08/2011 at 15:12

    i wonder who else we can pay our respects to, by purchasing haymarket tat?

    Nick Heidfelds career.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 15:13

    SOLD !! No wait. Sorry, I seem to have left my conscience in the pub - back in a minute.

    Nick Heidfelds career.

    :)

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 15:13

    holy cow.

    I'm afraid purchasing AUTOSPORT is the only way to show any respect.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 15:19

    I'm afraid purchasing AUTOSPORT is the only way to show any respect.

    autosport - a whole new meaning to "paying your respects".

    i guess, £3.20 is cheap for a clear conscience.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 15:25

    Mr C,

    Out of interest, are there any "Aside with..." coming soon?

    :)

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 15:26

    Out of interest, are there any "Aside with..." coming soon?

    debrief recording tonight, not sure about aside.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 15:26

    debrief recording tonight, not sure about aside.

    Sweet. Actually, that reminds me...

  • RG30/08/2011 at 15:28

    debrief recording tonight, not sure about aside.

    Still time for voicemails?

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 15:29

    Still time for voicemails?

    if you're quick yup. recording in about an hour.

  • RG30/08/2011 at 15:30

    if you're quick yup. recording in about an hour.

    Sweet. Cheers.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 15:31

    if you're quick yup. recording in about an hour.

    I would if I weren't in work at the min. Maybe next time

    :)

  • Christine30/08/2011 at 16:01

    F1 Big Picture: http://www.f1bigpicture.com/news/mini-countryman

  • Journeyer30/08/2011 at 16:06

    i wonder who else we can pay our respects to, by purchasing haymarket tat?

    Nick Heidfelds career.

    :D

  • Lukeh30/08/2011 at 16:32

    evening all. I bring a late ping:

    http://gridwalktalk.wordpress.com/2011/08/30/belgian-grand-prix-2011-once-twice-seven-times-a-winner/

  • jpancoast30/08/2011 at 16:34

    Nick Heidfelds career.

    Bazinga!

  • jpancoast30/08/2011 at 16:37

    F1 Big Picture: www.f1bigpicture.…s/mini-countryman

    Or little picture, as the case may be :). Great pic!

  • Sidepodcast Classics30/08/2011 at 17:00

    Enjoy a little something from the Sidepodcast back catalogue.

    - Races to Remember - Belgium 1998

    Originally published 5 March 2009.

  • Christine30/08/2011 at 17:31

    F1M ping: http://www.f1minute.com/news/gordon-murray-joins-group-lotus-advisory-council

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 18:20

    steven got a response: https://twitter.com/#!/henryhopefrost/status/108595493164167168

  • Christine30/08/2011 at 18:22

    Christine's Rankings day today, all suggestions gratefully considered :)

  • lou30/08/2011 at 18:28

    one of my uni friends is in Baltimore for a few months studying over there.. and yep he's going to the Baltimore GP this weekend. I may be a tiny bit jealous.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 18:30

    one of my uni friends is in Baltimore for a few months studying over there.. and yep he's going to the Baltimore GP this weekend. I may be a tiny bit jealous.

    never heard of it. what sort of racing?

  • lou30/08/2011 at 18:31

    never heard of it. what sort of racing?

    http://baltimoregrandprix.com/

  • lou30/08/2011 at 18:32

    never heard of it. what sort of racing?

    http://baltimoregrandprix.com/

    Kai's bff Dario is gonna be there and everything!!

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:32

    one of my uni friends is in Baltimore for a few months studying over there.. and yep he's going to the Baltimore GP this weekend. I may be a tiny bit jealous.

    Am jealous!

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 18:32
  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:32

    never heard of it. what sort of racing?

    IndyCar and ALMS

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:33

    Game results ping - http://toomuchracing.com/2011/08/30/tmr-game-2011-week-32/

  • lou30/08/2011 at 18:33

    Am jealous!

    he says it's literally taken over. He said i'd love it. Am not a huge fan of indy car but it must have be such an amazing atmosphere! He's from manchester too, so his family got to enjoy the awesome JB display yesterday. lucky people.

  • lou30/08/2011 at 18:34

    oh lord, indycar :)

    if any type of racing series wants to come take over our town i'd happily let them :D

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 18:35

    if any type of racing series wants to come take over our town i'd happily let them :D

    hehe. we were discussing yesterday. for the past 3 or 4 races, there's been nothing but complaints. my twitter stream is a river of indycar misery recently.

  • lou30/08/2011 at 18:36

    hehe. we were discussing yesterday. for the past 3 or 4 races, there's been nothing but complaints. my twitter stream is a river of indycar misery recently.

    oh i don't think i've ever watched a full indy car race or anything. but a street race in my back yard is just about a dream come true. :D

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:37

    he says it's literally taken over. He said i'd love it. Am not a huge fan of indy car but it must have be such an amazing atmosphere! He's from manchester too, so his family got to enjoy the awesome JB display yesterday. lucky people.

    Good to know the event is making waves locally, often they don't.

  • jackie30/08/2011 at 18:38

    Game results ping - toomuchracing.com…ame-2011-week-32/

    Oh poo, can you pretend that Mav forgot to post next week's pics before he went on holiday

  • lou30/08/2011 at 18:39

    Good to know the event is making waves locally, often they don't.

    yeah apparently the students woke up and were like 'wooaaahhhhh!' i'm not sure they know what it is. but i've informed him so at least he knows.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:41

    Oh poo, can you pretend that Mav forgot to post next week's pics before he went on holiday

    :)

  • jackie30/08/2011 at 18:42

    :)

    I hate NASCAR I always suck on those weeks

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 18:42

    I hate NASCAR I always suck on those weeks

    nooo, montoya's in it.

    (just don't bet on him)

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:43

    yeah apparently the students woke up and were like 'wooaaahhhhh!' i'm not sure they know what it is. but i've informed him so at least he knows.

    I hope they go. ALMS might be the better event, particularly as the order at the flag has a better chance of being the official result :)

    But yeah, Ferraris vs Porsches vs BMWs on a street course, can't go wrong.

  • jackie30/08/2011 at 18:43

    (just don't bet on him)

    hehe

  • lou30/08/2011 at 18:46

    I hope they go. ALMS might be the better event, particularly as the order at the flag has a better chance of being the official result :)

    i've told him if he doesn't go and take pictures for me i wont cook for him when he's back in the country.. :D

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:46

    Both series are a bit weak at the moment though. ALMS for entry numbers, and IndyCar for officialdom.

    In other ALMS news, their big races are still popular: Petit Le Mans had to trim 70 applicants to 60 entrants, and 'only' 53 will be allowed to start! http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/alms-petit-le-mans-capped-to-53-starters/

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 18:47

    In other ALMS news, their big races are still popular: Petit Le Mans had to trim 70 applicants to 60 entrants, and 'only' 53 will be allowed to start! auto-racing.speed…d-to-53-starters/

    bring back pre-qualifying :)

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:49

    I hate NASCAR I always suck on those weeks

    People keep crashing..

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 18:51

    i've told him if he doesn't go and take pictures for me i wont cook for him when he's back in the country.. :D

    Seems fair.

  • Lukeh30/08/2011 at 18:52

    i've told him if he doesn't go and take pictures for me i wont cook for him when he's back in the country.. :D

    :)

  • Lukeh30/08/2011 at 18:58

    Points for Rubens and Heikki for their finish on Sunday?

    #christinesrankings

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lgwOobQKAc

  • Lukeh30/08/2011 at 18:59

    Points for Rubens and Heikki for their finish on Sunday?

    There was only 0.038 seconds between the two, I should add

  • RG30/08/2011 at 19:01

    Points for Rubens and Heikki for their finish on Sunday?

    If thats the case I want points for Kobi and Massa in Canada.....

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 19:02

    If thats the case I want points for Kobi and Massa in Canada.....

    wasn't that due to DRS?

  • Lukeh30/08/2011 at 19:02

    If thats the case I want points for Kobi and Massa in Canada.....

    It is a desperate plea!

  • RG30/08/2011 at 19:03

    wasn't that due to DRS?

    It's all the same these days. #anythingforpoints.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 19:05

    www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=6lgwOobQKAc

    Hehe, the commentary, it's that guy with the accent!

    Mork wwWebborrr

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 19:27

    Hello.

    Just arrived after a 20km run with my bike, through roads and mountains.

    Quite exhausted, to be honest, but I can't wait to go out again!

  • Christine30/08/2011 at 19:30

    Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/big-hugs-and-awkward-poses-on-christines-rankings-this-week

  • Marti30/08/2011 at 19:36

    Well, it's time to leave.

    Short and quite visit.

    Good Sidepodnight, sidepodworld ;)

  • jpancoast30/08/2011 at 19:40

    Just arrived after a 20km run with my bike, through roads and mountains.

    you ran with your bike? You know you're supposed to RIDE them ;)

  • Christine30/08/2011 at 19:44

    Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/grumpiness-and-gorillas-on-this-weeks-team-rankings

  • Lukeh30/08/2011 at 19:50

    Ooooh I just had a spooky Sidepodcast moment. As if this was wierd enough, the legendary moment of Ringo Starr's demise came up in a related videos list after watching f1 stuff...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QrvxX-2Cg

    ...and it turns out it was uploaded two years ago today! *spooky music*

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 19:50

    ...and it turns out it was uploaded two years ago today! *spooky music*

    blimey!

  • Lukeh30/08/2011 at 19:52

    blimey!

    He's a controller and he's fat; what's the problem?!

    never gets old :D

  • Christine30/08/2011 at 19:57

    He's a controller and he's fat; what's the problem?!

    Well, I mean, honestly.

  • Lukeh30/08/2011 at 19:58

    Well, I mean, honestly.

    It is a controversy that will never go away!

    Like Postman Pat has a helicopter now. He shouldn't have a helicopter!

    Postmen don't have helicopters!

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 20:00

    Like Postman Pat has a helicopter now. He shouldn't have a helicopter!

    Pardon?

    Van. Always a post van.

    End of!

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 20:18

    I'm going through old Sidepodcast diaries. Can I say retro? *runs*

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 20:21

    steven got a response: https://twitter.c…08595493164167168

    Eve the MD of RLM got stuck in as well on @radiolemans, RT'd Steven too.

    @henryhopefrost 'Buy it on Thursday' I presume that the cover price is being donated to Martin Hines Young Driver fund is it?

    @henryhopefrost Yes Henry. It was in bad taste and you know it. I expect more of you.

    @henryhopefrost @lindsaymorle @rwestbrook1 It's not bitter and it's not sarcastic. Your comment was in very poor taste.however good the obit

    @henryhopefrost You have plugged the mag on the back of an obit Henry...do you really not get it???

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 20:23

    Don't know if it has been discussed but this is huge news. Gordon Murray is up there with Adrian Newey. He has a different approach but is of similar status. He has come up with many revolutionary designs. For example the MP4/4 that won 15/16 races in 1988 was a development of his Brabham BT55. This news makes a Renault drive a lot more appealing to a top driver.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/94138

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 20:25

    Eve the MD of RLM got stuck in as well on @radiolemans, RT'd Steven too.

    He replied to me saying

    @stevenroy27 Despicable? Some of Martin's family members don't think so... You make it sound like I work for the former NOTW.

    So I have made it cleat that I think exactly that

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 20:27

    Declan Brennan just retweeted the original

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 20:33

    Declan Brennan just retweeted the original

    Seems that Henry's just given Autosport free publicity with this monumental non-thinking parade.

  • Steven Roy30/08/2011 at 20:37

    Seems that Henry's just given Autosport free publicity with this monumental non-thinking parade.

    The thing is he would have got more publicity if he had said it was a Hines tribute issue because everyone would have retweeted it and people would have bought it. As it is there are tweets from other journalists attacking him personally for using an obit to plug a magazine

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 20:40

    The thing is he would have got more publicity if he had said it was a Hines tribute issue because everyone would have retweeted it and people would have bought it. As it is there are tweets from other journalists attacking him personally for using an obit to plug a magazine

    It's pretty disgusting behaviour.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 20:41

    The thing is he would have got more publicity if he had said it was a Hines tribute issue because everyone would have retweeted it and people would have bought it. As it is there are tweets from other journalists attacking him personally for using an obit to plug a magazine

    He's always struck me as a bit of an idiot.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 20:43

    Evening all

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 20:48

    Evening all

    Evening. How's things?

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 20:49

    Evening. How's things?

    None too bad young sir - just finished watching last week's Doctor Who. Going to start my Belgium GP write soon

    And you?

    :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 20:49

    By the way, has tomorrow's daily been done yet? If not, may I add a link?

    :)

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 20:50

    Evening. How's things?

    None too bad young sir - just finished watching last week's Doctor Who. Going to start my Belgium GP write soon

    And you?

    :)

    DW was a good'un for those who haven't seen it.

    Been back about 12 hours from my holiday in the US with Emily. Didn't wanna go but a part of me is glad to be home.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 20:51

    Been back about 12 hours from my holiday in the US with Emily. Didn't wanna go but a part of me is glad to be home.

    Nice-I assume fun was had?

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 20:51

    Nice-I assume fun was had?

    Oh yes, most definitely. I'm amazed how welcoming I was made to feel. They're all so friendly!

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 20:56

    Oh dear, it gets worse... #IndyCar

    Dennis Reinbold (Giorgio Pantano's team boss on Sunday) only found about the post-race penalty when it was announced on TV.

    Seriously, what is going on over there?

    http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-reinbold-still-fuming-over-pantanos-penalty

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 20:59

    DW was a good'un for those who haven't seen it.

    I didn't like it at all. Glad you had a good holiday though.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:00

    I didn't like it at all. Glad you had a good holiday though.

    I thought the lady that played Mel was just awful, but the rest was good.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:01

    I thought the lady that played Mel was just awful, but the rest was good.

    She reminded me of Martha, or that woman from Sugar Rush who's name escapes me.

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 21:01

    I thought the lady that played Mel was just awful, but the rest was good.

    That was all ridiculous. As if you can just shoehorn something in. Oh yes we just forgot to mention this person that's been here all along.... Honest guv.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:02

    Me thinks Giorgio has the right idea...

    Pantano was incredulous at the ruling. “He said,‘You are telling me I cannot go to the inside of the track on a right hand corner?” relayed Reinbold. “I’d never give somebody the inside, this is road racing.”

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:03

    Me thinks Giorgio has the right idea...

    Pantano was incredulous at the ruling. “He said,‘You are telling me I cannot go to the inside of the track on a right hand corner?” relayed Reinbold. “I’d never give somebody the inside, this is road racing.”

    Correct. I think Indycar has this completely backwards - no blocking works on ovals but you absolutely CANNOT do that on road courses. It's part of the show - watch someone have to work to overtake, just don't hand it to them on a plate.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:04

    It's part of the show - watch someone have to work to overtake, just don't hand it to them on a plate.

    Sadly this has become part of the whole "if there's no passing, it must be boring" syndrome.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:05

    He's always struck me as a bit of an idiot.

    i'm sad. i liked him when we met him :(

    the "culture of autosport" is the problem i guess. we know they'd all sell their own grandmothers if it made a profit. same thing that makes them run the headlines they do, or create a definitive motorsport rankings. anything for a sale.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:05

    Sadly this has become part of the whole "if there's no passing, it must be boring" syndrome.

    If you want passing watch NASCAR. If you want action watch F1. If you wanna be clueless to the result watch Indycar.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:05

    anything for a sale.

    For a second, I thought that said "anything for a cake"

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:06

    For a second, I thought that said "anything for a cake"

    Cake! Who wants? :)

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:07

    For a second, I thought that said "anything for a cake"

    no, that's sidepodcast.

    ;)

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:07

    the "culture of autosport" is the problem i guess. we know they'd all sell their own grandmothers if it made a profit. same thing that makes them run the headlines they do, or create a definitive motorsport rankings. anything for a sale.

    Yep. Greed. Sales patter.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:07

    If you want passing watch NASCAR. If you want action watch F1. If you wanna be clueless to the result watch Indycar.

    I'm always adamant that there is a fundamental difference between "passing" and "overtaking". Apparently cars drifting mindlessly past with no possible recall counts for "action".

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:07

    Oh dear, it gets worse... #IndyCar

    how can i get any worse?

    Dennis Reinbold (Giorgio Pantano's team boss on Sunday) only found about the post-race penalty when it was announced on TV.

    oh!

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 21:08

    For a second, I thought that said "anything for a cake"

    Could hardly be more shameless.

    Some companies do that to people though... A good friend of mine got himself a sales job and after a while he'd turned into a right **** trying to flog us all stuff we didn't want at every half opportunity.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:08

    the "culture of autosport" is the problem i guess. we know they'd all sell their own grandmothers if it made a profit. same thing that makes them run the headlines they do, or create a definitive motorsport rankings. anything for a sale.

    That's kind of what I mean when I say 'idiot' in this case, not stupid, but.. shorthand for words I can't use :)

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:08

    oh!

    Could you ever imagine any other series where a team boss finds out about a penalty 20 minutes after the race from television?

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:09

    Could you ever imagine any other series where a team boss finds out about a penalty 20 minutes after the race from television?

    I think F1 nearly had that problem a couple years ago, at least now they're communicative.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:10

    i don't really get the pantano thing, did he fall foul of the same rule that screwed over the race winner about 18 months ago? like, you can't defend your line.

    it was a stupid rule back then, but if i know about it, pantano must do?

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:10

    I think F1 nearly had that problem a couple years ago, at least now they're communicative.

    I said that the other day that IndyCar is reminding me of F1 toward the end of Mosley years.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:11

    Could you ever imagine any other series where a team boss finds out about a penalty 20 minutes after the race from television?

    I'm sure I've seen it before somewhere, not often though

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:11

    i don't really get the pantano thing, did he fall foul of the same rule that screwed over the race winner about 18 months ago? like, you can't defend your line.

    Yep

    it was a stupid rule back then, but if i know about it, pantano must do?

    Apparently, Pantano was never informed of it. He found out during the interview with Kevin Lee.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:11

    i don't really get the pantano thing, did he fall foul of the same rule that screwed over the race winner about 18 months ago? like, you can't defend your line.

    it was a stupid rule back then, but if i know about it, pantano must do?

    Yup, same rule. I cannot understand why they've kept that one in.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:12

    Apparently, Pantano was never informed of it. He found out during the interview with Kevin Lee.

    it is a rule though. how mad can he be that he didn't read the rule book?

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:13

    it is a rule though. how mad can he be that he didn't read the rule book?

    Because according to him and TV he didn't break the rule.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:13

    i don't really get the pantano thing, did he fall foul of the same rule that screwed over the race winner about 18 months ago? like, you can't defend your line.

    Helio at Edmonton. Yes, same rule.

    it was a stupid rule back then, but if i know about it, pantano must do?

    An Autosport.com Plus piece went up in the last hour or two and it makes out his whole career is riding on these two races he's doing, so you'd think he'd do some homework, or the team would tell him in the test he did the other week. Although now in that piece he's claiming he did it for braking stability.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:13

    Helio at Edmonton. Yes, same rule.

    that's the one.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:13

    Yup, same rule. I cannot understand why they've kept that one in.

    Because the people who wrote the rules have never raced a single event in their entire careers.

    it is a rule though. how mad can he be that he didn't read the rule book?

    He was drafted in fairly last minute to replace Wilson. In all fairness, I wouldn't expect that rule in any racing series, but this was drawn up for "safety reasons"

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:13

    This kinda reminds me of Imola 2005 - Schumacher trying every which way to pass Alonso but not being able to. Clever positioning, yet with Indycar rules he woulda been through and winning.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:14

    He was drafted in fairly last minute to replace Wilson. In all fairness, I wouldn't expect that rule in any racing series, but this was drawn up for "safety reasons"

    Safety reasons, or "we don't want people to crash".

    OK, so you don't want people to crash. Educate them on using their brakes properly for a start.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:14

    Because according to him and TV he didn't break the rule.

    ah-ha. by tv, you mean the commentators? or you watched it and agree?

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:15

    ah-ha. by tv, you mean the commentators? or you watched it and agree?

    Commentators. I confess I've not seen the footage yet.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:16

    Safety reasons, or "we don't want people to crash".

    "Safety reasons" - emphasis on the inverted comma's.

    Commentators. I confess I've not seen the footage yet.

    It was news to me - I certainly never saw it on screen.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:16

    Commentators. I confess I've not seen the footage yet.

    How do you know what the commentators said if you haven't seen it?

    Reinbold (team boss) says Pantano never moved all the way across the 'imaginary line' on the track denoting blocking, it was a half-move.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:16

    It was news to me - I certainly never saw it on screen.

    FYI I never saw the Webber-Alonso move live. Speed sucks.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:17

    FYI I never saw the Webber-Alonso move live. Speed sucks.

    It was magic.

    :D

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:17

    FYI I never saw the Webber-Alonso move live. Speed sucks.

    best over take of the year.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:18

    best over take of the year.

    Best one I've seen in a few years I think. Certainly beats Webber's slightly enthusiastic overtake on Kovalainen at Valencia last year.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:19

    ah-ha. by tv, you mean the commentators? or you watched it and agree?

    Commentators. I confess I've not seen the footage yet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SBATOPNSf4

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:19

    Best one I've seen in a few years I think. Certainly beats Webber's slightly enthusiastic overtake on Kovalainen at Valencia last year.

    i need to find some footage, but i think alo/ham did the same thing on lap 2 in 2007.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:22

    www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=3SBATOPNSf4

    sounds like bourdais nails it - "we're not in europe".

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:22

    i need to find some footage, but i think alo/ham did the same thing on lap 2 in 2007.

    Alonso-Schumacher, Suzuka 2005, 130R.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLZLxT1ZEPA

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:22

    ah-ha. by tv, you mean the commentators? or you watched it and agree?

    Commentators. I confess I've not seen the footage yet.

    www.youtube.com/w…tch?v=3SBATOPNSf4

    Thanks, I couldn't find that. Were they under green for that last lap?

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:23

    sounds like bourdais nails it - "we're not in europe".

    Said with a very smug smile

    #Grrrrrr...

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:23

    Thanks, I couldn't find that. Were they under green for that last lap?

    Yep

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:23

    i need to find some footage, but i think alo/ham did the same thing on lap 2 in 2007.

    Alonso-Schumacher, Suzuka 2005, 130R. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLZLxT1ZEPA

    Fixed.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:23

    Fixed.

    heh. yeah, but that's not eau rouge.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:24

    Of course this wasn't the only call which was weird. Under the Safety Car, Race Control started moving cars around in the snake to put the lapped James Jakes behind the top five. Pantano was 6th and not lapped, so why wasn't Jakes put behind all of the lead lap cars, or just left where he was?

    Pantano was moved too but I'm not sure where.

    Also somehow the two leaders find themselves ahead of the SC for a short while, which is just bizarre.

    In this clip the commentators don't mention ANY of this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aniPQs2bjE&feature=player_embedded

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:24

    Yep

    *facepalm* He's made his line though. He didn't change.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:24

    sounds like bourdais nails it - "we're not in europe".

    NASCAR doesn't have the rule, neither do the ALMS, or Grand-Am.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:24

    *facepalm* He's made his line though. He didn't change.

    Doesn't matter. It's illegal to defend your position in IndyCar

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:24

    heh. yeah, but that's not eau rouge.

    Point. Most of the time overtakes at Eau Rouge end in crashes or tragedy. RIP Stefan Bellof.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:25

    NASCAR doesn't have the rule, neither do the ALMS, or Grand-Am.

    ...or anyone else. Good golly, go-karting doesn't even have this rule.

  • Pat W30/08/2011 at 21:29

    Anyway the team Twitter account @DRRIndyCar has been having a good old rant for the last couple of days, and good on 'em for not lying down.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:33

    Anyway the team Twitter account @DRRIndyCar has been having a good old rant for the last couple of days, and good on 'em for not lying down.

    Good. I like emotional teams. I did not like Ferrari's tweet about an "awful day for Ferrari" when they were 4th on the grid. Minus points in the teams ranking for that.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:33

    Good. I like emotional teams. I did not like Ferrari's tweet about an "awful day for Ferrari" when they were 4th on the grid. Minus points in the teams ranking for that.

    -2

    http://sidepodcast.com/post/grumpiness-and-gorillas-on-this-weeks-team-rankings

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:34

    -2

    Can I be honest and say that's not enough of a drop for them?

  • RG30/08/2011 at 21:35

    Good. I like emotional teams. I did not like Ferrari's tweet about an "awful day for Ferrari" when they were 4th on the grid. Minus points in the teams ranking for that.

    I mean, if they aren't happy with 4th, I'll be more than happy to see Sauber take that place.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:35

    Can I be honest and say that's not enough of a drop for them?

    I know what's done is done, that's just my personal feeling. I've liked Ferrari for a long time but that was just beautifully stupid.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:35

    I mean, if they aren't happy with 4th, I'll be more than happy to see Sauber take that place.

    Or Lotus?

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:35

    Anyway the team Twitter account @DRRIndyCar has been having a good old rant for the last couple of days, and good on 'em for not lying down.

    When drivers, teams, fans and media are constantly blasting the series and IndyCar still don't listen, then things really are lost.

  • Mr C30/08/2011 at 21:35

    I mean, if they aren't happy with 4th, I'll be more than happy to see Sauber take that place.

    it didn't occur to them that they were fourth. they say alo - 8th and that was it.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:36

    it didn't occur to them that they were fourth. they say alo - 8th and that was it.

    I think Massa should be looking elsewhere already.

  • RG30/08/2011 at 21:36

    Or Lotus?

    Oh never....

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:36

    Oh never....

    :D

  • RG30/08/2011 at 21:36

    it didn't occur to them that they were fourth. they say alo - 8th and that was it.

    I'll take 8th as well.

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:37

    I'll take 8th as well.

    Hasn't Kobayashi had 5th on the grid this season?

  • RG30/08/2011 at 21:39

    Hasn't Kobayashi had 5th on the grid this season?

    He's finished 5th. Highest grid is 9th in Aus I think.

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:44

    Hell, I'd take 8th on the grid and I'm not even a driver

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 21:46

    He's finished 5th. Highest grid is 9th in Aus I think.

    Found this quote from Brundle about Koby's overtaking:

    "He gets to the normal braking point and then goes, ‘Now, which one is the brake again? That’s right, it’s on the left,’ and he just sails past people!" http://www.brundlequotes.com/page2.htm

  • Leigh O'Gorman30/08/2011 at 21:54

    @stefanocoletti: At the hospital till sunday... Thursday getting the operation for My vertebras...

    Sadly not everyone escaped from Spa in one piece. Poor guy always gets the wrong end of the stick there.

  • jpancoast30/08/2011 at 22:00

    it didn't occur to them that they were fourth. they say alo - 8th and that was it.

    I'm sure Ferrari has a second driver, it's just that noone can remember his name!

  • Turkey Machine30/08/2011 at 22:06

    I'm sure Ferrari has a second driver, it's just that noone can remember his name!

    Felipe-Baby?

  • Kai30/08/2011 at 22:25

    Sorry no voicemail from me this week. Still no power or water.

  • jpancoast30/08/2011 at 22:33

    Sorry no voicemail from me this week. Still no power or water.

    if you can comment, you can make an MP3!! ;)

  • Kai30/08/2011 at 22:34

    if you can comment, you can make an MP3!! ;)

    hehe! There is a very loud generator and it can only support this modem and laptop. I can't add the mic to it. Sorry. :)

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 22:45

    Hai Kai :)

  • Amy30/08/2011 at 22:49

    turns out Korea will be Jeremys first international trip. I feel honoured to be the one to introduce him to the joy that is the 9 hour stop over in a boring airport

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 23:04

    turns out Korea will be Jeremys first international trip. I feel honoured to be the one to introduce him to the joy that is the 9 hour stop over in a boring airport

    9 hours?? Snore!

  • Amy30/08/2011 at 23:13

    9 hours?? Snore!

    in the LCCT in KL no less! I love you Tony, but your airport can't entertain me for that long. Perhaps 4.5 hours in Starbucks and 4.5 hours in McDonalds :D

  • Alison30/08/2011 at 23:30

    in the LCCT in KL no less! I love you Tony, but your airport can't entertain me for that long. Perhaps 4.5 hours in Starbucks and 4.5 hours in McDonalds :D

    I have NO idea why Pamela didn't want to come :P

  • Amy31/08/2011 at 00:07

    I have NO idea why Pamela didn't want to come

    she did! Her boss just wouldn't let her :(

  • Kai31/08/2011 at 00:16

    Hai Kai :)

    Haiya. :)

    I did in and out because the King of Generator Land over there just turns it off randomly, so sorry I didn't respond earlier.

  • Kai31/08/2011 at 00:16

    I did in and out because the King of Generator Land over there just turns it off randomly, so sorry I didn't respond earlier.

    *dip in and out of the conversation

  • Kai31/08/2011 at 00:20

    do we have a daily for Wed?

  • Kai31/08/2011 at 00:21

    do we have a daily for Wed?

    #lookingfurtherthanmynose fail :)

  • Mr C31/08/2011 at 00:23

    heh.