Another week begins as we roll into Monday, and it looks like it's going to be a pretty quiet week. There are no scheduled tests or launches, as far as I know, although chances are the teams need time to recover from their windswept adventures during the week just gone. Nevertheless, things are still happening:

  • Bernie has brought his desire to keep manufacturer's in the sport to the forefront of the news again, by suggesting the rules could be slackened if they would sign up for long-term deals. This seems like a crazy way of doing business, but would it appeal to the teams?
  • Stuart mentioned in the comments that he would be writing an article for Autosport and that's now up on the site for perusal. It is a brief overview of the memorial of British champ Mike Hawthorn, and apparently there is more to come for subscribers.
  • We're all recovering from a mammoth talking session with the first ever Sidepodchat last night. The live show should be available to replay, and the (only slightly) edited version will be ready to go very soon.

That should keep us going for a bit, please feel free to post news, links, and any thoughts you have in the comments, and I will see you there.

228 responses

  • Dom26/01/2009 at 01:05

    Just found (via Keith's site), some rather worrying driving from the GP2 Asia guys.

    No penalty for that?!? Unbelievable...

  • Bassano Clapper26/01/2009 at 01:13

    Just found (via Keith’s site), some rather worrying driving from the GP2 Asia guys.

    :shock:

  • Jeremy26/01/2009 at 03:04

    Happy Australia Day everyone.

    I am at work :-(

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 04:34

    Another weblog awards, and it looks much more organized and prestigious than the last. Something to shoot for this year:

    http://2009.bloggies.com

    Copying this from yesterday's thread.

  • me26/01/2009 at 06:09

    Happy Australia Day everyone

    I am at work

    happy australia day jeremy. no longer a public holiday then?

  • me26/01/2009 at 06:19

    how thin is alonso?

    you can read more about f1 testing with tony on le bol's blog:

    http://thewombatofthebol.blogspot.com/2009/01/our-man-reports-from-algarve-f1-january.html

    while a full set of testing images are here: http://drop.io/tonyf1pics

    nice one tony.

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 06:25

    happy australia day jeremy. no longer a public holiday then?

    Still up? Or just up?

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 06:26

    how thin is alonso?

    Really thin!

  • me26/01/2009 at 06:26

    Still up? Or just up?

    just up. long day ahead :)

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 06:30

    just up. long day ahead

    Hope it's not too bad! But from what it seems this really is the middle of the night for you!

  • me26/01/2009 at 06:39

    Hope it’s not too bad! But from what it seems this really is the middle of the night for you!

    :)

    it really is.

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 06:41

    it really is.

    Right I better head off to work! See you later!

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 07:27

    There is an incredible feature article on Autosport this morning. It sadly is behind the pay wall. And I can't link it from here. It's called: Red Cars, red ink, revisited.

    It tells of how Ferrari and Bernie are at loggerheads at the moment. And that based on the current financial difficulties for Fiat they might be interested in selling Ferrari. And that if they did Bernie might be interested in buying it!

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 07:34

    how thin is alonso?

    Really thin!

    Not thin - he's fit! :P

    It tells of how Ferrari and Bernie are at loggerheads at the moment. And that based on the current financial difficulties for Fiat they might be interested in selling Ferrari. And that if they did Bernie might be interested in buying it!

    Um, that makes very little sense. LDM is more or less running the entire Fiat; why would he want to sell his baby? Also, we're not in the 90s anymore - Ferrari-Maserati is a VERY profitable company, and played a big role in Fiat's revival.

    There is an incredible feature article on Autosport this morning. It sadly is behind the pay wall. And I can’t link it from here. It’s called: Red Cars, red ink, revisited.

    You can drop-io the article if you REALLY wanna share it. :D But hey, up to you. :)

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 07:38

    me: 26/01/2009 at 06:09

    Happy Australia Day everyone

    I am at work

    happy australia day jeremy. no longer a public holiday then?

    I think it is, but he's at work anyway?

  • Stuart C26/01/2009 at 07:47

    You can drop-io the article if you REALLY wanna share it.

    Tsk!

    News story from yesterday's Hawthorn parade is here:-

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72995

    Feature to come during the week. In between the downpours I managed to take pictures, some even in focus – not all of publishable quality but I'll stick them up on Flickr (or, indeed, drop-your-wotsits) today.

  • Jeremy26/01/2009 at 08:01

    happy australia day jeremy. no longer a public holiday then?

    It is a public holiday and it turns out it wasn't worth going to work. I'll have a day off in lieu next week so I'll still have a long weekend. I can never get back missing the first Sidepodchat though!

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 08:02

    Tsk!

    Oops. Hehe. :D

    Feature to come during the week. In between the downpours I managed to take pictures, some even in focus – not all of publishable quality but I’ll stick them up on Flickr (or, indeed, drop-your-wotsits) today.

    drop-your-wotsits. Nice! Hehe. BTW, we were talking about Tom Rubython last night, specifically his revelations on Max and Bernie, which is relevant in the current economic situation. Were his articles on that accurate?

  • Dank26/01/2009 at 08:53

    ING to cut F1 sponsorship by 40% in 2009... and probably leave it altogether at the end of it.

  • Stuart C26/01/2009 at 09:15

    Were his articles on that accurate?

    He does have some very good sources but the problem with much of his work (apart from a general lack of discipline in terms of structure, clarity and length) is that the grains of truth are mixed up with torrents of outright nonsense. So the answer to your question is that some elements probably are accurate and other bits definitely aren't; but lots of people like to believe it anyway because it panders to their worldview.

  • me26/01/2009 at 09:19

    Tsk!

    busted journeyer, damnit.

    I can never get back missing the first Sidepodchat though!

    true, but you can replay it as many times as you like.

    ING to cut F1 sponsorship by 40% in 2009… and probably leave it altogether at the end of it.

    who's paying alonso then?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 09:22

    who’s paying alonso then?

    Weight watchers? It looks like he is earning money per kilo lost...

  • me26/01/2009 at 09:23

    Weight watchers? It looks like he is earning money per kilo lost…

    :D

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 09:28

    You can drop-io the article if you REALLY wanna share it.

    You can get the article here:

    http://tinyurl.com/c6yvcq

    ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 09:32

    Dom said:

    Just found (via Keith’s site), some rather worrying driving from the GP2 Asia guys.

    No penalty for that?!? Unbelievable…

    Wow... Just plain crazy!

  • Dank26/01/2009 at 09:33

    Wasn't that the point to begin with? Can't read it without having an Autosport subscription?

  • me26/01/2009 at 09:33

    You can get the article here:

    http://tinyurl.com/c6yvcq

    hehe. am reading it now.

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 09:38

    Wasn’t that the point to begin with? Can’t read it without having an Autosport subscription?

    Yes. Sorry I was making a particularly poor joke.

  • Dank26/01/2009 at 09:42

    Yes. Sorry I was making a particularly poor joke.

    Ah, I sees!

    I'm sure when I used to be a subscriber you could save the articles to .pdf...

  • Stuart C26/01/2009 at 09:45

    Sorry I was making a particularly poor joke.

    Well, it tickled me.

    First pics now up at www.flickr.com/photos/sc_pix/

    I'll put some more up later in the week, depending on which ones don't get used with the aforementioned feature.

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 09:47

    I’m sure when I used to be a subscriber you could save the articles to .pdf…

    I could and can, but we'd have to be sure Stuart C was going to look the other way!

  • me26/01/2009 at 09:47

    I’m sure when I used to be a subscriber you could save the articles to .pdf…

    yup, you still can.

    however an autosport.com subscription costs £3.75 a month. it isn't going to break the bank.

    we've given up with the weekly mag (pricey and not enough f1 content), we felt the trade fair tickets were over priced (before and after your discount), but the .com subscription is value for money.

    so we could drop the .pdf for everyone, but it seems kinda unnecessary.

  • me26/01/2009 at 09:48

    I could and can, but we’d have to be sure Stuart C was going to look the other way!

    and christine, who has the ability to remove from drops too.

  • Lukeh26/01/2009 at 09:52

    Morning everyone :) Do we have any unveils this week coming up?

    *carries on with Honda comic*

  • me26/01/2009 at 09:52

    Morning everyone Do we have any unveils this week coming up?

    calendar says no:

    http://www.f1minute.com/f1-calendar/

  • Lukeh26/01/2009 at 09:56

    calendar says no:

    Aww :(

    I guess the next few F1 days will be filled mostly with Honda's future thinking about it anyways. The dreaded 'deadline' is every looming with no news seemingly coming out...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 09:57

    calendar says no:

    *cough*

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 09:58

    Aww

    I guess the next few F1 days will be filled mostly with Honda’s future thinking about it anyways. The dreaded ‘deadline’ is every looming with no news seemingly coming out…

    I am hoping that's because it's all being done behind the scenes...

  • me26/01/2009 at 09:59

    First pics now up at http://www.flickr.com/photos/sc_pix/

    went into mod, apologies.

    looking now.

  • Stuart C26/01/2009 at 10:03

    it isn’t going to break the bank.

    Quite so, especially in the era of the £4 pint!

    we’ve given up with the weekly mag (pricey and not enough f1 content)

    And yet... If you follow the thread about the impending redesign of the magazine over at ten-tenths.com you'll see a welter of bile from people who think there's too much F1 in it. Just goes to prove the old maxim that you can't satisfy all of the people all of the time...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 10:10

    And yet… If you follow the thread about the impending redesign of the magazine over at ten-tenths.com you’ll see a welter of bile from people who think there’s too much F1 in it. Just goes to prove the old maxim that you can’t satisfy all of the people all of the time…

    Stuart, is the Magazine on sale in Denmark?

  • me26/01/2009 at 10:13

    And yet… If you follow the thread about the impending redesign of the magazine over at ten-tenths.com you’ll see a welter of bile from people who think there’s too much F1 in it. Just goes to prove the old maxim that you can’t satisfy all of the people all of the time…

    there's a redesign? i shall look at the thread now.

    it used to be worth the asking price, back before the articles started being fed onto autosport.com a week later. but as we said recently, you can't share paper stories via facebook and delicious :(

    we did once experiment with advertising in the magazine:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/05/24/paper-promo/

    but that seems like a lifetime ago now.

  • Dank26/01/2009 at 10:19

    If you follow the thread about the impending redesign of the magazine over at ten-tenths.com you’ll see a welter of bile from people who think there’s too much F1 in it

    Bit strange to ask on there and not Autosport's own forum?

    That aside, I've just struck gold via ten-tenths. A French forum going just a little bit bonkers upon the news that Bourdais has apparently retained his seat at Toro Rosso: http://www.sbourdais.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2883

    Nobody does celebratory pictures like the French do :-D

  • me26/01/2009 at 10:22

    Nobody does celebratory pictures like the French do

    chuck norris approves :D

  • Dank26/01/2009 at 10:23

    we did once experiment with advertising in the magazine:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/05/24/paper-promo/

    I, I never knew that!

    Spelt 'independent' wrong in the ad by the way. 18 months late, but what the hey.

  • me26/01/2009 at 10:24

    I, I never knew that!

    t'was early days.

    Spelt ‘independent’ wrong in the ad by the way. 18 months late, but what the hey.

    in true sidepodcast style ;)

  • Jeremy26/01/2009 at 10:58

    true, but you can replay it as many times as you like.

    it is downloaded and ready to go. I find myself talking aloud and even yelling sometimes when listening alone in the car.

    I always think of things I would have said while listening that I'm not sure I would have thought to say had I been part of the live broadcast.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 11:26

    I always think of things I would have said while listening that I’m not sure I would have thought to say had I been part of the live broadcast.

    Did my cough get edited out? Sorry about that, I've had the beserker-strain of the flu lately (still off work today...)

  • Lukeh26/01/2009 at 11:45

    It's done! I present to you guys, my Honda comic!

    You can get it on drop.oi here or you can see a full size link of it here if drop compresses it.

    Enjoy!

  • Flibster26/01/2009 at 11:46

    Aww I guess the next few F1 days will be filled mostly with Honda’s future thinking about it anyways. The dreaded ‘deadline’ is every looming with no news seemingly coming out…

    What future?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 11:48

    It’s done! I present to you guys, my Hondas comic.You can get it on drop.oi here or you can see a full size link of it here if drop compresses it.

    That's extremely twisted! Well done mate! :-D

  • me26/01/2009 at 11:53

    panda watch:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7850425.stm

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 12:03

    who’s paying alonso then?

    If ING won't, Philip Morris sure can. ;)

    busted journeyer, damnit.

    Heh. :P

    That’s extremely twisted! Well done mate!

    Great job on this, lukeh! While extreme, it might be closer to the truth then we could ever know. :P

    When will the next one come out?

  • Jeremy26/01/2009 at 12:24

    however an autosport.com subscription costs £3.75 a month. it isn’t going to break the bank.

    I was going to be a cheapskate and cancel my subscription during the off season but figured it wasn't worth the effort. I meant to fully explore what the site provides over the xmas break but didn't find the time.

    The Aussie dollar has improved against the pound but £4 for a beer is nearly $8.50 - ridiculous!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 12:30

    I was going to be a cheapskate and cancel my subscription during the off season but figured it wasn’t worth the effort. I meant to fully explore what the site provides over the xmas break but didn’t find the time.

    It averages at about £5.50 in Denmark :-)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 12:31

    It averages at about £5.50 in Denmark

    Correction - £3.94 http://www.pintprice.com/region.php?/Denmark/GBP.htm

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 12:31

    moderated (beer)

  • me26/01/2009 at 12:33

    moderated (beer)

    unmoderated (yes please)

  • me26/01/2009 at 12:36

    I was going to be a cheapskate and cancel my subscription during the off season but figured it wasn’t worth the effort. I meant to fully explore what the site provides over the xmas break but didn’t find the time.

    best time to look is after a race weekend. loads of useful (and some useless) race stats and facts. there's a virtual lap-by-lap review too.

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 12:42

    It averages at about £3.94 in Denmark

    I looked up my part of the world - and I got this:

    Philippines: £0.38

    That makes your pint VERY pricey from our perspective.

  • Jeremy26/01/2009 at 12:44

    best time to look is after a race weekend. loads of useful (and some useless) race stats and facts. there’s a virtual lap-by-lap review too.

    I was inspired to join by the positive comments on SPC and liked the look of the FORIX bit.

    What I really want is every sector of every lap for every driver (with tyre compound noted as well) in a spreadsheet so I can re-live the race on paper.

    You'll probably remember from my comments last year that I tend to 'watch' the race on the live timing and SPC comments and then watch the TV coverage the next day. Not a hard and fast rule since the linking of justin.tv sites but a very interesting way of doing it nonetheless

  • me26/01/2009 at 12:46

    Philippines: £0.38

    sheeeesh!

  • me26/01/2009 at 12:48

    I was inspired to join by the positive comments on SPC and liked the look of the FORIX bit.

    we should use forix more, but it contains many of those pesky 'fact' things. not really our style :)

    What I really want is every sector of every lap for every driver (with tyre compound noted as well) in a spreadsheet so I can re-live the race on paper.

    so do we!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 12:50

    I looked up my part of the world - and I got this:

    Philippines: £0.38 That makes your pint VERY pricey from our perspective.

    It's three times more expensive in Denmark than what it lists for the UK... And hence why a lot of Danes take holidays in South East Asia ;-)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 12:52

    Not a hard and fast rule since the linking of justin.tv sites but a very interesting way of doing it nonetheless

    Any news on whether Justin will be providing Live F1 coverage this year? Quite frankly, I have picture, I just need a way to get English Audio...

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 12:53

    It’s three times more expensive in Denmark than what it lists for the UK… And hence why a lot of Danes take holidays in South East Asia

    And Brits and Americans too. Even the occasional French and German, in fact. :D

    sheeeesh!

    haha!

  • me26/01/2009 at 12:58

    Any news on whether Justin will be providing Live F1 coverage this year? Quite frankly, I have picture, I just need a way to get English Audio…

    surprised bernie didn't figure out what was going and shut them down last year :)

    i doubt we'll know until it all kicks off friday in melbourne will we? if it's available we'll embed it tho.

  • Lukeh26/01/2009 at 13:05

    Great job on this, lukeh! While extreme, it might be closer to the truth then we could ever know. When will the next one come out?

    I'll do one soon after my exams are done maybe. And it's not meant to be totally serious anyways so there's nothing in it to say it;s an actual belief, just a bit of mindless fun :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 13:06

    It’s done! I present to you guys, my Honda comic!

    I was just wondering if Tom Rubython would get some story ideas from your cartoon - hence the fact that I think you may have crossed the 'Rubython' :-D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 13:08

    Nobody does celebratory pictures like the French do

    Surely Christine is doing all that right now?

  • me26/01/2009 at 13:09

    Surely Christine is doing all that right now?

    couldn't see any more info in that thread than we already have though, or did i miss something in translation?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 13:10

    couldn’t see any more info in that thread than we already have though, or did i miss something in translation?

    All the pictures of people Cheering and dancing?

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 13:10

    surprised bernie didn’t figure out what was going and shut them down last year

    i doubt we’ll know until it all kicks off friday in melbourne will we? if it’s available we’ll embed it tho.

    The thing is, it's not Justin per se that provides it; it's provided instead by Justin users. So even if you shut one user down (which hasn't even happened yet), another 2 or 3 will just pop up trying to do the same thing.

    And it's live, so that makes it harder to track down. The fact that there are different kinds of possible feeds (1 per country) makes it even more difficult.

  • me26/01/2009 at 13:12

    All the pictures of people Cheering and dancing?

    yeah, i know... but why? isn't it based on the same source we saw ages ago? the team have offered him a contract, but will he sign?

    this one:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/21/keep-or-not-keep-his-toro-rosso-in-2009/

    looked to me like a french forum read the same news and got a bit excited. funny, but no reason for christine to be cheering yet?

  • Dirty Scarab26/01/2009 at 13:14

    how thin is alonso?

    Well he is standing next to a rather portly gentleman :D

    The truth is apparently he lost 3 kg (from 70kg down to 67kg),

    because he was worried about the extra weight of KERS.

    Not exactly to Christian Bale's commitment standards in the movie "The Machinist", but he should be commended nonetheless...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 13:15

    looked to me like a french forum read the same news and got a bit excited. funny, by no reason for christine to be cheering yet?

    Well, I don't speak French, So I don't know :-(

    I have seen pictures of Sato with Red Bull logos on, but they're probably made by the same sort of people...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 13:15

    Not exactly to Christian Bale’s commitment standards in the movie “The Machinist”, but he should be commended nonetheless…

    Not if it affects his stamina and energy levels...

  • Dirty Scarab26/01/2009 at 13:19

    Oh, and what's all this rubbish about Bernie saying that there's a possibility of teams that supply engines to other teams being able to field 3 cars in a race?

    I know this is another one of Bernie's hair-brained schemes that'll never see the light of day, but to be honest, I think I'd prefer a leaner grid to a lop-sided constructor's fight.

    (Sorry if this was already mentioned in the live show, I haven't got around to watching it yet!).

  • me26/01/2009 at 13:29

    (Sorry if this was already mentioned in the live show, I haven’t got around to watching it yet!).

    you know what? i have no idea what we did and didn't discuss last night!

    bernie's sounding a bit desperate to be honest. these are not the considered musings of a calm man.

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 13:31

    bernie’s sounding a bit desperate to be honest. these are not the considered musings of a calm man.

    Unless he's using the tried and tested approach of 'discuss the extremes so that they'll settle for what we really want'?

  • me26/01/2009 at 13:37

    Unless he’s doing the tried and tested approach of ‘discuss the extremes so that they’ll settle for what we really want’?

    also possible.

    not sure we've ever had such a scatter-gun approach of random ideas in quick succession before have we? maybe he sees the economic climate as a chance to make a killing, so he's pushing everyone to breaking point, hoping some or all manufactures will snap?

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 13:40

    I just found out that none other than Luca di Montezemolo himself paid a visit to Kimi at the Arctic Rally.

    http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/01/25/kimi-raikkonen-13th-in-arctic-lapland-rally/

    Now, why would LDM visit a RALLY? He hasn't been to one in decades; why go now? I'm pretty sure it just wasn't to support Kimi.

    Now, there were some rumors a few months back of Fiat trying their hand at the WRC. And WRC would love a Fiat team of Kimi Raikkonen and Valentino Rossi challenging Citroen and Sebastien Loeb.

    Is it just a pipe dream, or can it really happen?

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 13:42

    not sure we’ve ever had such a scatter-gun approach of random ideas in quick succession before have we? maybe he sees the economic climate as a chance to make a killing, so he’s pushing everyone to breaking point, hoping some or all manufactures will snap?

    I think they last tried it in 2002, when they tweaked quali and the points system. At the same time, they floated the possibility of success ballast and drivers rotating around teams at every race. So I'd guess their extremes approach worked very well then.

  • me26/01/2009 at 13:46

    I just found out that none other than Luca di Montezemolo himself paid a visit to Kimi at the Arctic Rally.

    gmm again? they really are slipping... ladysnowcat was on the ball ages ago:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/24/daily-24th-january-2009/#comment-179942

    the biggest challenge sidepodcast faces in 2009 has be providing a fast and reliable way to search comments. too many good comments and too hard to find them once they've scrolled on by.

  • me26/01/2009 at 13:48

    I think they last tried it in 2002, when they tweaked quali and the points system. At the same time, they floated the possibility of success ballast and drivers rotating around teams at every race. So I’d guess their extremes approach worked very well then.

    so it did. if these are the ideas floating around now. what's the real end-game that bernie has in mind?

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 13:57

    gmm again? they really are slipping… ladysnowcat was on the ball ages ago

    so it's not true then? no one confirmed or denied it.

    the biggest challenge sidepodcast faces in 2009 has be providing a fast and reliable way to search comments. too many good comments and too hard to find them once they’ve scrolled on by.

    yup. i think we discussed some possible solutions for this too a few months back. might take some time to develop though, if i remember right.

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 14:06

    so it did. if these are the ideas floating around now. what’s the real end-game that bernie has in mind?

    THAT is the 1-billion dollar question. But the answers to this tend to be simple: they were already mentioned in the past. So out of everything Bernie has said, which is the most feasible?

    gmm again? they really are slipping… ladysnowcat was on the ball ages ago

    Fiat own the Abarth team in the WRC-competitor IRC. Rumor has it that Fiat is moving this team to the WRC as a rebranded Fiat team for 2010.

    When does Kimi's contract expire?

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:08

    so it’s not true then? no one confirmed or denied it.

    i'm sure he was there, just wanted to give ladysnowcat kudos for being on the ball.

    yup. i think we discussed some possible solutions for this too a few months back. might take some time to develop though, if i remember right.

    there's a couple of schools of thought. steven mentioned the other day that it's better to have people linking twice, than not at all.

    on the other hand, christine and i tend to read every comment, so we have a pretty good idea if something's already been mentioned and like to give those who get the story first, the credit.

    a good example might be dank's ING find from this morning. someone's bound to read a similar take later on today and post a new link again. but dank was there with the news before anyone else... so what should we do?

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 14:10

    a good example might be dank’s ING find from this morning. someone’s bound to read a similar take later on today and post a new link again. but dank was there with the news before anyone else… so what should we do?

    Part of the idea of the daily posts was that I would update the original post with news and things from the comments as the day wore on. I'm not sure it's possible to do though.

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:10

    Part of the idea of the daily posts was that I would update the original post with news and things from the comments as the day wore on. I’m not sure it’s possible to do though.

    i'm not sure everybody reads those either :(

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:14

    i’m not sure everybody reads those either

    plus if you read a post once. why would you read it again, unless updates were clearly marked, and what happens if you update multiple times?

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 14:15

    i’m sure he was there, just wanted to give ladysnowcat kudos for being on the ball.

    ah, i see. all credit to her, but at least we can discuss the speculation in more detail now. :)

    i’m not sure everybody reads those either

    I read it at the start of the day on the LCLT, but not very often after that. Also, that won't come up on the doohickey at all.

    plus if you read a post once. why would you read it again, unless updates were clearly marked, and what happens if you update multiple times?

    Exactly. Well, multiple updates are solved by putting timestamps on each update - I don't see any problem with that. But the issue here is probably the effort exerted in updating it, and whether or not people see the updates accordingly.

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:15

    When does Kimi’s contract expire?

    as soon as he finds something more interesting to do. tomorrow if the money was good and the racing exciting?

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:16

    I read it at the start of the day on the LCLT, but not very often after that. Also, that won’t come up on the doohickey at all.

    same here.

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 14:16

    same here.

    Yea, yea. ;)

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:18

    Yea, yea.

    i dooooo. honest guv.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 14:20

    I just found out that none other than Luca di Montezemolo himself paid a visit to Kimi at the Arctic Rally.

    I would love to see FIAT/Abarth back in Rallying - with the Super2000 rules starting in 2010 it would be a perfect opportunity as they already have a proven car.

    If Kimi goes rallying they should hire Robert Kubica as his team mate :-)

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 14:20

    as soon as he finds something more interesting to do. tomorrow if the money was good and the racing exciting?

    well, kimi has already said before that he honors his contracts, so it may not necessarily be tomorrow.

    but in rally,

    is the money good? sure, especially with LDM and Fiat footing the bill.

    is the racing exciting? yes, very much so. less overtaking, but more difficult racing through different terrains.

    which makes me think that a switch is VERY possible, indeed.

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 14:21

    If Kimi goes rallying they should hire Robert Kubica as his team mate

    No, not yet! Kubica still has to win a title or two - in a Beemer!

    Fiat will probably get Rossi as his teammate.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 14:22

    No, not yet! Kubica still has to win a title or two - in a Beemer!

    Fiat will probably get Rossi as his teammate.

    That could work. Who needs GMM to make up baseless stories? ;-)

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 14:23

    That could work. Who needs GMM to make up baseless stories?

    Hahaha! Ours our more plausible - who knows, it might even happen!

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:26

    No, not yet! Kubica still has to win a title or two - in a Beemer!

    by the way, how long should i leave it before being officially disappointed that heidfeld hasn't responded to any of his blog comments yet?

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 14:28

    by the way, how long should i leave it before being officially disappointed that heidfeld hasn’t responded to any of his blog comments yet?

    How long has it been anyway?

    At least James Allen replies to his blog comments - if not directly.

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:30

    How long has it been anyway?

    erm, only five days. and he has been testing. must a quiet monday for him though?

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 14:31

    erm, only five days. and he has been testing. must a quiet monday for him though?

    Has he heard of Must Comment Monday, d'you reckon?

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:32

    Has he heard of Must Comment Monday, d’you reckon?

    ooooh. well if he blogs today, i'll be obliged to mention it.

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:52

    question... are mclaren actually thinking of racing these things:

    "During testing in Portugal the McLaren featured an evolution of the rim fairings tested by the team last year, designed to take best advantage of the change."

    http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2009/0/615.html

    assumed they were only for testing?

  • me26/01/2009 at 14:55

    toyota going conservative? that's a first:

    "Marmorini no longer found his role sufficiently stimulating...the Italian was also at odds with Toyota over its 'conservative' approach to Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) development."

    http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45015&PO=45015

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 15:00

    the biggest challenge sidepodcast faces in 2009 has be providing a fast and reliable way to search comments. too many good comments and too hard to find them once they’ve scrolled on by.

    I did mention last season an idea that was the ability to star comments like identica (or twitter).

    I reckon that if added to that a page where you could see your starred comments that would be a great start. And then a second page which showed all comments that had been starred in order (descending) of the number of stars.

    Perhaps even better a search which returned results in order of starring.

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 15:02

    Perhaps even better a search which returned results in order of starring.

    Sort of like Digg.

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 15:03

    Sort of like Digg.

    Just what I was thinking.

    If you had that and the ability to drag all of the boxes around. I think we'd be in business ;)

  • me26/01/2009 at 15:03

    I did mention last season an idea that was the ability to star comments like identica (or twitter).

    you did. it's very possible too.

    I reckon that if added to that a page where you could see your starred comments that would be a great start. And then a second page which showed all comments that had been starred in order (descending) of the number of stars.

    pretty easy to add to lclt, not sure about the main site though.

    Perhaps even better a search which returned results in order of starring.

    decent search really is the key, both of the comments i've dug from the archives in the past 12hrs were found other posts.

  • me26/01/2009 at 15:04

    If you had that and the ability to drag all of the boxes around. I think we’d be in business

    the pair of you will be the death of me.

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 15:05

    decent search really is the key, both of the comments i’ve dug from the archives in the past 12hrs were found other posts.

    Sorry don't follow?

  • me26/01/2009 at 15:09

    Sorry don’t follow?

    two topics have come up since the show yesterday, both of which were covered in the past but the people discussing missed or had no knowledge the original threads.

    therefore i searched and linked to the previous comments, one from november and one from saturday. i guess ideally, it would be nice if everyone could make those same searches, whilst typing comments.

  • me26/01/2009 at 15:10

    Sorry don’t follow?

    also, i'll re-write the original quote, in english:

    "both of the comments i’ve dug from the archives in the past 12hrs were found in other posts."

    sorry.

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 15:24

    “both of the comments i’ve dug from the archives in the past 12hrs were found in other posts.”

    Ah that was the bit I didn't get.

    therefore i searched and linked to the previous comments, one from november and one from saturday. i guess ideally, it would be nice if everyone could make those same searches, whilst typing comments.

    This bit I got. I just thought, as I was thinking about this, about another digg type feature which is as you type in a question it suggests other comments that people have dugg based on the key words. Something like this in the search would be great of course, but sounds pretty complex.

  • me26/01/2009 at 15:26

    This bit I got. I just thought, as I was thinking about this, about another digg type feature which is as you type in a question it suggests other comments that people have dugg based on the key words. Something like this in the search would be great of course, but sounds pretty complex.

    it does? haven't seen that.

    sounds basically what we need and similar to what was discussed last time this came up. the comments database is a massive formula 1 resource, we gotta unlock it this year.

    :)

  • Jon Waldock26/01/2009 at 15:27

    Right all....im looking at getting a new laptop, couple of hundred £'s you know the drill. Thinking maybe a mac or something? Anyone got any ideas? thoughts?

    Thanks in advanced ;)

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 15:30

    it does? haven’t seen that.

    Actually... easy place to see this is start typing a question on stack overflow. Same deal.

    I kind of mangled the two ideas in my head. I think digg actually picks things up on if you have the same link, but maybe the same words too.

  • Flibster26/01/2009 at 15:30

    Jon Waldock: 26/01/2009 at 15:27

    Right all….im looking at getting a new laptop, couple of hundred £’s you know the drill. Thinking maybe a mac or something? Anyone got any ideas? thoughts?

    Thanks in advanced

    To do what with?

    Image editing? Video editing? Gaming? Media streaming? Bluray?

    Any particular requirements?

  • Jon Waldock26/01/2009 at 15:32

    To do what with?

    nothing special, only requirement is that it has to be able to be compatible with Microsoft Office programs, Excel, World, Access, Publisher, Powerpoint...

  • me26/01/2009 at 15:44

    nothing special, only requirement is that it has to be able to be compatible with Microsoft Office programs, Excel, World, Access, Publisher, Powerpoint…

    netbook or laptop?

  • Flibster26/01/2009 at 15:47

    http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/326324/dell-xps-m1530-notebook-2ghz-t6400-/

    Not exactly cheap, but high performance... Just the first decent offer I've seen today.

  • Jon Waldock26/01/2009 at 15:47

    netbook or laptop?

    umm...the difference being?? 8-)

  • me26/01/2009 at 15:50

    umm…the difference being??

    former has tiny keys and is about the size of a sidepodmug, latter has normal keys and is bigger than a sidepodmug :)

    10" and smaller usually = netbook.

  • Jon Waldock26/01/2009 at 15:51

    former has tiny keys and is about the size of a sidepodmug, latter has normal keys and is bigger than a sidepodmug

    10? and smaller usually = netbook.

    ah ok, thought as much. i dont care really lol, just has to do the job...

  • me26/01/2009 at 15:54

    ah ok, thought as much. i dont care really lol, just has to do the job…

    our netbook is good except for the trackpad and it's low priced. wouldn't fancy spending all day looking at the screen though.

  • Jon Waldock26/01/2009 at 15:59

    our netbook is good except for the trackpad and it’s low priced. wouldn’t fancy spending all day looking at the screen though.

    awesome, i'd just make sure i have a decent mouse!

    whats that called then?

  • me26/01/2009 at 16:01

    whats that called then?

    a 901, although after last night's show, it could easily be a 908!

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/notebooks/review/2008/06/14/Asus-Eee-PC-901-20G-Linux-Edition/p1

  • me26/01/2009 at 16:08

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/notebooks/review/2008/06/14/Asus-Eee-PC-901-20G-Linux-Edition/p1

    just occurred to me. it comes with winxp as an option, the review uses the linux edition. this may be more useful:

    http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-eee-pc-901/4505-3121_7-33108990.html

  • Jon Waldock26/01/2009 at 16:10

    a 901, although after last night’s show, it could easily be a 908!

    looks good, although do they do ones with more storage, 80GB+ or possibly a dvd drive? (if not ill just get a portable dvd drive)

  • R.G (Oh its R.G-esque here)26/01/2009 at 16:17

    Oh my, in my mid-season game on BATracer, I qualify 2nd with my team mate in 1st (we are Toro Rosso) and it says, 'Lap could be bettered' I'm thinking, bloomin heck, I'd have got pole then!

    Evnin all.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 16:30

    how thin is alonso?

    That looks to me like he has lost a lot more than 3kg.

  • R.G (Oh its R.G-esque here)26/01/2009 at 16:30

    Unbelievable, 3 races in a row I've crashed into someone. I am David Coulthard in disguise I think.

    Most inresting opening lap of Hungary I've ever seen

  • Scott Woodwiss26/01/2009 at 16:31

    Well that was a topsy-turvy race for me. Ali hit me on the first lap and I had to pit, but thankfully there was a safety car as well. Then began to move up, had to pit to fix damage again 4 laps before my scheduled stop but got fuelled up until my 3rd and ended 4th.

    But well done Steven on keeping the Macca's on the top step :D

  • Scott Woodwiss26/01/2009 at 16:32

    AND we take the lead in the constructors! :D

  • R.G (Oh its R.G-esque here)26/01/2009 at 16:32

    Well done Steven and well done Joe for getting our first point in about 5 races.

  • Scott Woodwiss26/01/2009 at 16:33

    On the downside....IT'S VALENCIA NEXT! EVERYONE RUN! ARGH!!!!

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 16:40

    Great recovery drive Scott after an incident filled first lap. I think the game decided to give me a good weekend after some of the misery it has iflicted on me recently. We finally overtook them red cars in the constructors race.

    I would love to know what the chassis upgrade we got for that race was. Going by the performance increase I think we got ground effects.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 16:42

    It tells of how Ferrari and Bernie are at loggerheads at the moment. And that based on the current financial difficulties for Fiat they might be interested in selling Ferrari. And that if they did Bernie might be interested in buying it!

    Last week FIAT were going to buy Chrysler now they are going to sell Ferrari. It's all bull.

  • Scott Woodwiss26/01/2009 at 16:46

    Great recovery drive Scott after an incident filled first lap. I think the game decided to give me a good weekend after some of the misery it has iflicted on me recently. We finally overtook them red cars in the constructors race.

    Thanks teammie. Things are on the up. That upgrade does mean we officially have the fastest car in the field, and better reliability than them red ones ;) We're slowly but surely getting to them. :P

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 16:48

    First pics now up at http://www.flickr.com/photos/sc_pix/

    A re-creation of the car he died in and Rob Walker's gullwing Mercedes?? Why didn't they go the whole hog and re-create th accident.

  • me26/01/2009 at 16:50

    A re-creation of the car he died in and Rob Walker’s gullwing Mercedes?? Why didn’t they go the whole hog and re-create th accident.

    yeah. that does seem like an odd way to celebrate someone's life.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 16:51

    however an autosport.com subscription costs £3.75 a month. it isn’t going to break the bank.

    I refuse to pay a subsrciption for the Autosport sit because I have bought the mag every week for many years. I tend to move around with work so at times I have no idea where I will be when it comes out. As a result a subscription would make no sense as the magazine would not be in the same place I was.

    Autosport used to be the first site I checked every day. As soon as they introduced charging I stopped reading it.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 17:00

    I was just wondering if Tom Rubython would get some story ideas from your cartoon - hence the fact that I think you may have crossed the ‘Rubython’

    That is Trulli terrible

  • Dom26/01/2009 at 17:01

    we did once experiment with advertising in the magazine

    Wow, I remember that post!

    Ageeeees ago...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 17:02

    A re-creation of the car he died in and Rob Walker’s gullwing Mercedes?? Why didn’t they go the whole hog and re-create th accident.

    That just reminds me of the ice dance the siblings did in 'Blaze of Glory' :-D

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 17:03

    bernie’s sounding a bit desperate to be honest. these are not the considered musings of a calm man.

    Unless he’s using the tried and tested approach of ‘discuss the extremes so that they’ll settle for what we really want’?

    I did think later last night that the reason Fred Goodwin's namehas been mooted as FIA president is so it will get the reaction it got on the show and Max will seem the lesser of 2 evils

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 17:06

    Last week FIAT were going to buy Chrysler now they are going to sell Ferrari. It’s all bull.

    The Fiat-Chrysler thing IS true - in fact, it has some people asking Obama and the US Congress to block the sale.

    Wow, I remember that post!

    Ageeeees ago…

    Were you already a poster then, or just a lurker?

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 17:06

    Now, there were some rumors a few months back of Fiat trying their hand at the WRC. And WRC would love a Fiat team of Kimi Raikkonen and Valentino Rossi challenging Citroen and Sebastien Loeb.

    FIAT and Lancia have a long successful history in rallying and it is perfectly possible that they will consider a comeback. I can't see those two driving in anything other than the occasional event until their current careers are over.

  • Lukeh26/01/2009 at 17:07

    That just reminds me of the ice dance the siblings did in ‘Blaze of Glory’

    Isn't that Blades of Glory? I only remember it because of Will Arnnett being one of the siblings and the fact he was also the best character in (the stupidly good yet massively unknown series) Arrested Development..

    ...actually quite a good film now I remember it. If its the same thing you're talking about, of course :P

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 17:08

    When does Kimi’s contract expire?

    End of 2010

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 17:09

    Isn’t that Blades of Glory? I only remember it because of Will Arnnett being one of the siblings and the fact he was also the best character in (the stupidly good yet massively unknown series) Arrested Development..

    …actually quite a good film now I remember it. If its the same thing you’re talking about, of course

    Yeah it is ... sorry I don't know why I wrote 'Blaze' instead of 'Blades' :-(

  • R.G (Oh its R.G-esque here)26/01/2009 at 17:11

    Yeah it is … sorry I don’t know why I wrote ‘Blaze’ instead of ‘Blades’

    Thinking of the Bon Jovi song?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 17:12

    Thinking of the Bon Jovi song?

    I am now... cheers :-D

  • R.G (Oh its R.G-esque here)26/01/2009 at 17:13

    I am now… cheers

    :D Your welcome

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 17:15

    question… are mclaren actually thinking of racing these things:

    McLaren have had that design of wheel fairing for at least a year and have never raced it.

    If you were Max and on a cost saving drive would you not have banned something as utterly unnecessary as wheel fairings? Especially as Ferrari were proved twice last year to be lying about them being for cooling brakes. If they do not cool the brakes they must be aerodynamic devices in which case they are illegal and breach 4 different rules.

  • Dom26/01/2009 at 17:15

    It’s done! I present to you guys, my Honda comic!

    Great stuff. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 17:16

    If you were Max and on a cost saving drive would you not have banned something as utterly unnecessary as wheel fairings? Especially as Ferrari were proved twice last year to be lying about them being for cooling brakes. If they do not cool the brakes they must be aerodynamic devices in which case they are illegal and breach 4 different rules.

    In my mind, the wheel covers on the front wheels are 'moveable aerodynamic devices'!

  • Dom26/01/2009 at 17:18

    Were you already a poster then, or just a lurker?

    Was a lurker for waaay too long.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 17:27

    In my mind, the wheel covers on the front wheels are ‘moveable aerodynamic devices’!

    Alianora and I went through this when they first appeared. Ferrari first introduced them on the rear wheels which tells you straight away that they are not for brake cooling. Le Mans sportscars used to run simplified versions in the 80s to get better straight line speed on the Mulsanne.

    The fairings are in an area that you are not allowed aero devices

    They are on the wheels so move in relation to the body so thay are moveable aero devices

    On the front wheel they move when the driver steers so they are drive controllable aero devices

    I can't remember the fourth rule they broke but I am certain there were four.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 17:31

    Le Mans sportscars used to run simplified versions in the 80s to get better straight line speed on the Mulsanne.

    Like these?

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 17:43

    Porsche 956. Exactly what I had in mind. At Le Mans everyone has a problem keeping the brakes warm enough on the Mulsanne straight at night so if they cooled the brakes they would not be on the car.

  • Lukeh26/01/2009 at 18:16

    Sorry, completely off topic here, but I saw this news article headline and thought others just had to see it:

    Police in Nigeria are holding a goat on suspicion of attempted armed robbery.

    Damn those goats!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 18:27

    Damn those goats!

    Wasn't me :-)

  • R.G (Oh its R.G-esque here)26/01/2009 at 18:36

    Bad news for me

    http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/4076123.Croft_Circuit_loses_noise_appeal/

    Sounds like its going to be costly, and I can't afford it to go for me, since if I want to go to the nearest race track to watch a BTCC race, might either be Knockhill or Oulton Park, which is over 100 miles away.

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 18:39

    Hmmm... the BBC-DEC mess is coming out a lot on the news today. The ad is coming out tonight, right?

    How can the Beeb get it so wrong? :O

  • Selidor26/01/2009 at 18:40

    We finally overtook them red cars in the constructors race.

    Yes unfortunatly I dont see us re-taking the lead at all, at least on current form.

    However I still head the important championship!

    Roy won by quite a margin. Well done ;)

    Damn those goats!

    Its always the quadrupeds isnt it.

  • Alex Andronov26/01/2009 at 18:42

    just a thought. That show last night was two and a half hours long. Imagine what would have happened if there had been a race this week!

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 18:45

    just a thought. That show last night was two and a half hours long. Imagine what would have happened if there had been a race this week!

    if there was a race, we'd have had a debrief, and therefore, a shorter chat. :D

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 19:02

    I like Shaun's recent addition to the "me" wiki page:

    http://sidepodcast.wetpaint.com/page/me

    'Some say he can look you in the eye at the Silverstone GP - even shake hands with you! and even speak to you whilst you are being interviewed by Mrs Christine...but afterwards you realize, he was just a figment of your imagination. All we really know, is : he's called "Me".'

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 19:02

    Sounds like its going to be costly, and I can’t afford it to go for me, since if I want to go to the nearest race track to watch a BTCC race, might either be Knockhill or Oulton Park, which is over 100 miles away.

    Oulton is a great circuit. Not sure how good the spectator access and viewing is. Knockhill is a great little track but you have to consider Knockhill weather. I have seen snow in July there. At any race meeting at any time of year it will be very cold, very wet and very windy.

  • R.G (Oh its R.G-esque here)26/01/2009 at 19:04

    Oulton is a great circuit. Not sure how good the spectator access and viewing is. Knockhill is a great little track but you have to consider Knockhill weather. I have seen snow in July there. At any race meeting at any time of year it will be very cold, very wet and very windy.

    I'd like to go, but in reality, I can't. With Croft, its a half an hour car journey, and I can do that and still be in time to go to school the next day. However if I go to any of them, I can't do that.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 19:23

    I’d like to go, but in reality, I can’t. With Croft, its a half an hour car journey, and I can do that and still be in time to go to school the next day. However if I go to any of them, I can’t do that.

    It should only take you two hours to get to Knockhill. If the racing finishes around 6pm you should be home in time for sidepodwhatever

  • R.G (Oh its R.G-esque here)26/01/2009 at 19:26

    It should only take you two hours to get to Knockhill. If the racing finishes around 6pm you should be home in time for sidepodwhatever

    Yeah, but it also relies on me getting up at 7am on a Sunday and if I have any homework. Actually, looking at when Knockhill is, 16th of August, I should be on holiday then. So it may take more than two hours to get their ;)

  • lou26/01/2009 at 20:08

    how thin is alonso?

    wow, he really has lost some weight. Makes him look much more attractive though :P

    It’s done! I present to you guys, my Honda comic!

    that's awesome. :D

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 20:44

    A clip of Sidepodcast as we make our rapping debut:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/is-there-an-echo-mp3

  • Journeyer26/01/2009 at 20:49

    Not to mention, we're back!

    MT can stand for Messy Trouble. :P

    Anyhoo, Speedcar is on! At least from where I am. :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)26/01/2009 at 20:50

    A clip of Sidepodcast as we make our acting debut:

    Where was that Emergency Yodel button!

  • LadySnowcat26/01/2009 at 20:52

    'Some say he can look you in the eye at the Silverstone GP - even shake hands with you! and even speak to you whilst you are being interviewed by Mrs Christine…but afterwards you realize, he was just a figment of your imagination. All we really know, is : he’s called “Me”.’

    As in that favourite saying...

    "Me first"....

  • R.G (Save Croft Circuit : Sort marital problems without ruining my life as well)26/01/2009 at 21:18

    First time in an hour me thingy has let me on. Though I did spend half of that shouting at my laptop.

    Anyway, to continue on with my Croft argument. The reason for it is marital problems. From another forum

    Ok, for those who are unaware, the reason why the claimants are in this particular property is because the former husband was a director of the circuit at the time they moved in. The marriage broke up and he moved on. She is left in the house practically on the ground on the racetrack, with her parents. Obviously not satisfied with the divorce settlement, she has gone after the company that paid for her sorry existence for the past few years.

    I'm fuming.

  • me26/01/2009 at 21:19

    First time in an hour me thingy has let me on. Though I did spend half of that shouting at my laptop.

    sorry. it's not your machine, it's our server.

    hosting company = very broken.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 21:22

    I have been moderated. Either that or my comment just disappeared

  • Dom26/01/2009 at 21:22

    I'm guessing that was MT again?

    Grrr...

  • R.G (Save Croft Circuit : Sort marital problems without ruining my life as well)26/01/2009 at 21:22

    Did I say shouting at my laptop, I meant printer.

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 21:22

    hosting company = very broken.

    As are our spirits!

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 21:22

    hosting company = very broken.

    As are our spirits.

  • R.G (Save Croft Circuit : Sort marital problems without ruining my life as well)26/01/2009 at 21:24

    As are our spirits.

    As are the commenting system as well I assume

  • me26/01/2009 at 21:25

    I have been moderated. Either that or my comment just disappeared

    sorry, we don't appear to have it steven :(

  • me26/01/2009 at 21:25

    I’m guessing that was MT again?

    mediatemple are something of a joke in the hosting world. we have options, just no time to execute them.

  • me26/01/2009 at 21:26

    Did I say shouting at my laptop, I meant printer.

    wassup with your printer?

  • R.G (Save Croft Circuit : Sort marital problems without ruining my life as well)26/01/2009 at 21:27

    wassup with your printer?

    Wouldn't print my essay. Forced to restart the computer, put in and out a few plugs etc.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 21:28

    The comment was about a site that may be useful during the season for finding live streams

    http://livemotorsportsvideostreaming.blogspot.com/

    Is Media Temple so called because you have to pray it works?

  • me26/01/2009 at 21:28

    Is Media Temple so called because you have to pray it works?

    :D

  • Scott Woodwiss26/01/2009 at 21:28

    Warning: GMM Alert...

    http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1232965918/formula_one/F1headlines/Third-cars-on-the-cards/view.html

  • Andy Taylor26/01/2009 at 21:39

    Third cars, hmm. Interesting idea, but not sure it is the best way to ensure the minimum number of cars on the grid.

    Would this be extended to more cars per team? How long before there's one team with 20 cars? :(

  • me26/01/2009 at 21:40

    Would this be extended to more cars per team? How long before there’s one team with 20 cars?

    called ferrari?

  • Andy Taylor26/01/2009 at 21:51

    called ferrari?

    Wow, we must have some sort of telepathic link :D

  • me26/01/2009 at 21:52

    Wow, we must have some sort of telepathic link

    cynics unite :)

  • Andy Taylor26/01/2009 at 21:54

    called ferrari?

    Perhaps there'd be some new teams instead:

    Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Maserati and Abarth.

  • me26/01/2009 at 21:54

    Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Maserati and Abarth.

    :D

  • LadySnowcat26/01/2009 at 21:54

    Naughty "me"...

    Given the recent Macca takeover of FIF1 and the rush to supply engines to Honda the name McLaren or even... Mercedes... comes to mind...

    The three car story is hardly news as this was gone over at the time Super A dropped out...

    It's always an option in the wings...

    It's just that the star players are a little thinner on the ground these days so they may just need to draft in a few extras....

    All of a sudden being a test driver may look an attractive option...

  • Alianora La Canta26/01/2009 at 22:01

    however an autosport.com subscription costs £3.75 a month. it isn’t going to break the bank. {me}

    But F1 Racing on subscription is cheaper. It depends on what you plan to do with the information once you've read it.

  • me26/01/2009 at 22:03

    But F1 Racing on subscription is cheaper. It depends on what you plan to do with the information once you’ve read it.

    true enough. the problem with f1r is i get it three weeks after everyone else, because somebody insists on reading every word :)

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 22:11

    true enough. the problem with f1r is i get it three weeks after everyone else, because somebody insists on reading every word

    Finished this month's if you want it.

  • me26/01/2009 at 22:11

    Finished this month’s if you want it.

    were it any good?

  • Christine26/01/2009 at 22:12

    were it any good?

    Aside from making Vettel look like the devil.

  • me26/01/2009 at 22:13

    Aside from making Vettel look like the devil.

    ooh, do they know something we don't? he is friends with schumi.

  • Alianora La Canta26/01/2009 at 22:15

    Well that was a topsy-turvy race for me. Ali hit me on the first lap and I had to pit {Scott Woodwiss}

    It was a rather messy first lap, wasn't it? In fact, my whole race was pretty rubbish...

  • LadySnowcat26/01/2009 at 22:22

    true enough. the problem with f1r is i get it three weeks after everyone else, because somebody insists on reading every word

    What about the pics...

    There aren't that many words... although I have to say that this month's was somewhat better than the recent Lewis lovefest.. my only criticism was in the Seb Vettel piece.... they had the audacity to say that "the outside world".... so that'll be me and you, guys... have doubts about whether Mr Vettel is future WDC material... (that after the obligatory peon of praise for Lewis of course.. in a Vettel interview... grrrr)...

    Don't these guys ever get out?... the one thing that the world agrees on is that young Seb is certainly WDC material in that he's done the one thing Lewis hasn't proved that he can do ... win in a less than brilliant car....

    Get with the programme F1 Racing....

  • lou26/01/2009 at 23:07

    Aside from making Vettel look like the devil.

    yeah, those pics of him are a little scary :)

  • Alianora La Canta26/01/2009 at 23:17

    Mind you, picking up a big mallet and smashing some glass with it would do that to anyone...

  • Alianora La Canta26/01/2009 at 23:18

    By the way, what are Christine and me's thoughts on Cafepress?

  • me26/01/2009 at 23:19

    By the way, what are Christine and me’s thoughts on Cafepress?

    best to ask lou and alex, as they've purchased from them.

    in terms of product creation they're fine, but things seem to take a very long time to get made once ordered :(

  • Alianora La Canta26/01/2009 at 23:40

    Thanks, me. It was the product creation side I was interested in.

    The background: I've been trying to set up an online shop for the past month with a company called The Printshop. I was wondering why I got no response from them until I visited their address in Nottingham. And found the entire street had been boarded up.

    Now it might be that they'd simply moved, but a company that can't even communicate the fact that it had relocated on its website was probably not the best pick of online shop.

    I've got it down to four possible alternatives, but Cafepress is the only one of those four where I know anyone who's actually used it (either to buy or to sell). Thank you for your honest answer.

  • Steven Roy26/01/2009 at 23:42

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/01/25/fia-revise-f1-stewards-process/

    I just read the this time last year post from the front page of the site because its title contains one of my favourite F1 quotes - If the FIA ran football we would have square balls and round pitches. It only got 12 comments and a lot of those are other sites refering to it.

  • lou26/01/2009 at 23:43

    best to ask lou and alex, as they’ve purchased from them.

    I didn't mind the 2-3 week wait tbh ;)

  • me26/01/2009 at 23:44

    I’ve got it down to four possible alternatives, but Cafepress is the only one of those four where I know anyone who’s actually used it (either to buy or to sell). Thank you for your honest answer.

    no worries. i think it's free to try, so best bet is to dive right in.

  • Alianora La Canta26/01/2009 at 23:46

    no worries. i think it’s free to try, so best bet is to dive right in. {me - previous comment}

    So are the other three options. But if you think it's worth trying, I'll set up shop there later this week :)

  • me26/01/2009 at 23:47

    So are the other three options. But if you think it’s worth trying, I’ll set up shop there later this week

    yell if you need a hand once you get going.

  • me26/01/2009 at 23:49

    I just read the this time last year post from the front page of the site because its title contains one of my favourite F1 quotes - If the FIA ran football we would have square balls and round pitches. It only got 12 comments and a lot of those are other sites refering to it.

    that was an enjoyable post to research, because you could see the fia trying to cover their arses, but they completely underestimated the ability of the internet to recall the past.

    bang to rights with irrefutable evidence and that archive page still exists to this very day. thanks for pointing it out, good memories :)

  • Alianora La Canta26/01/2009 at 23:51

    yell if you need a hand once you get going. {me - 2 comments ago}

    Thank you very much, me :)

  • Dank27/01/2009 at 08:57

    surprised bernie didn’t figure out what was going and shut them down last year :)

    i doubt we’ll know until it all kicks off friday in melbourne will we? if it’s available we’ll embed it tho.

    Woah woah woah! I've only just logged on since yesterday, so a bit late replying, but...

    How come it's naughty for me to request a .pdf document from the Autosport subscription section, but it's ok to perhaps show the BBC F1 feed which license payers have paid for?

    Touché? :-D

  • Christine27/01/2009 at 09:00

    How come it’s naughty for me to request a .pdf document from the Autosport subscription section, but it’s ok to perhaps show the BBC F1 feed which license payers have paid for?

    I'd say because the world feed should be available online, and is but with crazy restrictions, whereas it's not too much to ask to pay a little money for a writer's hard work.

  • Dank27/01/2009 at 09:04

    I’d say because the world feed should be available online, and is but with crazy restrictions, whereas it’s not too much to ask to pay a little money for a writer’s hard work.

    Which boils down to people outside the UK wanting something that unfortunately they probably can't have. I know I'm probably in a minority here, but I don't like the idea of a paid for service being rendered into a stuttering mess as people are leeching on to it. It was probably more acceptable last year as ITV's adverts were paying for it, now that my £120 license fee is going towards it I won't be entirely happy.

  • Christine27/01/2009 at 09:06

    It was probably more acceptable last year as ITV’s adverts were paying for it, now that my £120 license fee is going towards it I won’t be entirely happy.

    That brings up a whole licence fee debate, though. Much too early for that kind of thing :)

  • Alex Andronov27/01/2009 at 09:14

    I’d say because the world feed should be available online, and is but with crazy restrictions, whereas it’s not too much to ask to pay a little money for a writer’s hard work.

    In my opinion the major difference is that one thing is available and one isn't.

    Anyone around the world can subscribe to Autosport at a price. People can't watch all sessions of F1 around the world. We couldn't even watch Sunday practice.