We're in the middle of the week now, and I promise not to mention Wimbledon once. Oops, I just did. Never mind, today is supposed to be the next big thing in the journey to the end of Formula 1, so perhaps I should focus on F1 for a bit:
- The WMSC are meeting today in Paris with Max Mosley and Luca di Montezemolo going head to head over... well, everything, I guess. Max has already said he will restand for election in October which will come as no surprise to anyone. What other revelations are in store?
- Shaun was at Silverstone over the weekend in his usual guise, checking tickets at the gate. He's written about some of the famous people he spotted, and get this - Legard has a fan!
- Dank has found some more excellent Red Bull video, this time a tour of the factory in Milton Keynes. It's always good to get a look behind the scenes of how the cars get made, even if they are fugly.
That'll do it for now. If there is some news coming out of today, I'll have to designate this daily post as a happy place again, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I'll see you in the comments.
Its' a new day... however is it a new dawn for F1?
I might just put in -F1.
Ahhhh. That's better.
Calm down Its just a bunch of guys having an afternoon of water and biscuits
Shame they are not getting a few years of bread and water
I am feeling the need to move to a LHD country so i can get myself a nice muscle car with a V8
What about a muscle Ute down under?
RHD too
Where is Nick? Holdens certainly have the muscle
Now they just look silly...
Nick, you forgot to add no silly charging gimmicks just total pure 375 / 425 cubic inch horsepower....
Free iPhone App for video & photo uploading
[supports drop.io too]
Pixelpipe. More here
wha? cool!
Isn't it
Without an iPhone [yet] but I've got 5 apps already :D
i check it out in a bit. i can't multitask too well.
*annoyed now I am stuck with the "old" 3G*
Your contract with be prime for the next upgrade though
It's supplied by my employer, so it's actually harder to get it changed. My Blackberry is 3 years old now....
I need to focus on a lotus, Cars with 5.0, 7.3 litre engines just aren't practical in a country full of global warming people, and there crazy petrol taxes
Chat to Flibster, he's got an Evora on order
Yeah, he gave me places to look for a mark 1.
I think ill save it to be a reward if i get a job
I have never heard anyone suggest that a Lotus is practical before
Jobs & Classic cars need to go together to make the second one stick around
I just found out the the BBC has an archive section on the net where they stash collections of old programs. No motor racing unfortunately but loads of lovely space stuff
http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/collections.shtml
hehe, they only have tiny little engines
Aren't second hand Elises cheap in the UK?
Every Lotus ever made was cheap second hand. They are famous for being unreliable and depreciate at a rate that looks like a tax fiddle
under £10K
Im hoping a Mk1 elise will appreciate a lot in the future
You should see the prices here!
Some on Autotrader
According to autotrader you can get a 1998 or 1999 Elise for just over £6k
I prefer the look of the Mk 1
Cripes. It's almost worth me buying one there and getting it sent over. Would make a better race car than my MX5
There are even two listed at £100 but I assume that is a mistake
They do that on purpose to get you to enquire
Have put a pic and link on drop.io if you don't get the chance tonight
It is not a mistake. Its an additional 6900 for a working engine, tires, and transmission....
Lukeh's still doing good work I see
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/lewispc-jpg
Why are RX-8's so cheap?
I am tmepted to get one just so i can admire the engine
:D
You don't see many old ones
Rotary engine's not last long?
they only came out in 04'
but i imagine spares could be costly
True, I was thinking of old Mazda RX's
Can't think of the last RX-8 I saw though
Oh god early 90's RX7 ..you are my future car.
Its horribly boy racer, but. Its stopped me looking
Well, there's Sea Hunters on TV at the moment. so I should be back in an hours time....
My mate had one as a company car recently. It was brilliant fun and utterly reliable. Flibster has one now. You should ask him about them
How many cars does that man have?
Will do, i don't think they look as good as the American variants, and the rx7 turbo is drop dead gorgeous//terrible
Well, as he washed an engine in the bath whilst his gf was away, I'd say a few! :D
I think the Maza is for driving and not decorating his bathroom
:D
I don't think it was even his engine. I think it was his mate's. The man is just addicted to playing with car bits. Wouldn't be surprised if he takes his Lotus to bits and rebuilds it before he drives it.
He sounds like the sort of person you need to take along when buying a second hand car...
...or when heading to the race track. Wonder if he is busy at the end of July.
He might be interested if you wave some tickets or passes in front of him
Hehe. Bit expense to ship the pit crew half way around the world though.
I think you could have a hard job keeing him out of the driving seat though
Ah, yes
If only we knew somone who worked for an airline and could get cheap tickets............
Has everyone seen the Hitler f1 breakaway video.. watching it now, brilliant so far!
that is often the problem. We have a second car coming on line though.
Well...
[We are encouraged to help out friends and family, sadly they're not the super discounts the staff get]
Link?
I have seen a couple of those. Part of me thinks they are quite funny but not as funny as other people think and part of me thinks that it is incredibly bad taste and not funny enough to overcome that. Mel Brooks Nazis are really funny but this stuff I am not sure about
Is ok, best not
Google is your friend
It does tocuch on an unmentionable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO8TLBn7z1k
Its the best one of these ive seen. Well the only one which is even a little funny at least.
oops
Looks the same as the XBOX footage
Downfall isn't it?
there are loads of them, hadn't realised wurtz was in it until now
Morning, everyone. :D
Hi Journeyer
Hey Journeyer
[Chuckles at]
"Don't worry, Alonso already drives a tank"
I have, twas good fun if you ignore the Spankgate bit.
hehe, morning!
For anyone still awake in the uk ch5 is showing grand-am from laguna seca
right seems like everyone has dozed off.. i guess i should do the same!
Goodnight Sidepodcast!
Good night, Nick.
Good morning, Europe! :D
The doohickey time is 1:50 AM. Is this GMT?
If it's BST, shouldn't it be 2:50 AM?
That was picked up earlier. There is no known reason why it is wrong with it but HQ are dealing with it.
and good afternoon asia (just)
Must've missed that message then.
Still awake, eh? :P
Only in Australia -still morning in most of Asia. :D
Nope. Now commenting in my sleep
Sleepcommenting? :P
Isn't Japan in the same zone? I can never get that right.
Japan is GMT+7 - 1 hour behind Sydney, 1 hour ahead of Manila.
Ah yep. I'll save my comment for an hour then ;-)
just found this comment in moderation:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/07/25/a-question-of-mastermind/#comment-368685
love it :)
(although i had to re-read the post to make sense of it)
All well, maybe Max and Bernie can being back Auto Union to a position of sweeping all before it again...or is that another hare-brained scheme worthy of Austrian Corporals ?
So he is the guy who was actually on Mastermind. What are the odds on anyone finding a thread a year after the event. Hope he comes back and comments on other stuff
lord knows. amazing really.
Rumour has it that once the Porsche Vw deal gets tied up Auto Union could make a re-appearance.
I was supposed to be going to bed at a reasonable time but that was never going to happen. I am going now though. Good night all.
me too. see ya.
Did you need to post a show just as I was going to bed?
umm...
whoops.
Just a quick question for 'me' or Mrs. C, Have you guys picked a slogan?
I'll get one too. Seriously. I'm available for pit crew duties occasionally on Sundays or Mondays. I have experience and live in south Sydney.
I don't know if it is a temporary one, or if Mr C is trying to subliminally get us to like this one, but I have seen "All for F1, and F1 for All" is starting to creep into all the places where "Your weekly F1 podcast" used to be.
Morning all!
Morning Lukeh. How's it going?
Not bad thanks. Hoping 10am hurries up so I can go and get my results over and done with. Also, I know I've only just passed but it's starting to really bug me catching the bus now I have a license...
How are things in Sidepodland?
Joe's podcast is up! Tis a very good one too. :D
Aww. Do you have plans on the car front?
I have a confession to make, but I'm worried that it could see me banished from Sidepodcast forever.
I have 2 plans...
*Save up over the summer and get one before I go back to University (of course, thats if I pass everything) but then it's more saving up for the insurance moreso than the car...
*Wait until I turn 21 on New Years Eve as the insurance will drop a lot more than it is at the moment. Downside is waiting another few months!!
Uh oh.
Why? What is it?
It's OK, it's fine to think heikki will win a world championship one day
:P
Today at work, inspired by the earlier post, I listened to all 93 Backstreet Boy songs I have on my mp3 player.
I enjoyed every second of it.
And now I am home from work and considering watching one of the two Backstreet DVDs I own.
I am that cool.
Oh my.
Hahaha. If that means banishment from Sidepodcast, I'm in real trouble.
Ohhhh... :D
But why would Christine ban out? She'd love you for it! :P
Yes; yes, you are.
Only one of my friends knows of my problem. Only because we used to flat together and we used to play BSB music incredibly loud when our other flatmates weren't home. Those were the best days of my life *reminiscing*
Keep telling yourself that!
93 songs. It's quite epic. People who go through my mp3s can excuse me for having their 90s albums as nostalgia, but I have been judged and mocked for having the most recent two.
Interesing article from Des Lynam
The man has a point - is F1 too complicated for the average punter now?
Is this your ultimate guilty pleasure?
I know you were worried about this but they provided the answer in one of their songs...
Backstreet's back? Alright!
It really is. I just signed onto MSN and my friend pops up and the first thing she says is "omg omg bsb" :D
Is she a fan of British Superbikes? :D
:P
Is giggling in his sleep (sorry amy)
Gaaah hard night last night - was fun though. Knackereed today so cracked open a can of "Scarlet Bovine that encourages the growth of appendages to assist in the activity of self-powered flight"...
Oh god, I had to read that for 30 seconds before it made any sense!
Clearly I'm more than just a casual fan, I could answer all the questions he asked :D
So could I - but a heck of a lot of people can't!
I like how he said legard had a nice voice.
In the same way rubbing a file on your back alongside sandpaper and gravel is relaxing.
But all that can be said is that the rules say they have to (regarding tyres). I would have thought fuel loads was obvious you can go faster the lighter your car is. Sutill started from the pitlane because of a problem which was mentioned by Legard. And KERS is a magic button! :D
He does have a nice voice - just that his intonation is all wrong.
I just realised I can do a good Tiff Needell impression. I may not like the man, but I think I have an affinity with him ;)
I would go nuts if I had KERS explained to me every race. The questions they answer on 5Live during the practices are enough to make me want to never listen again.
Hehe :D
Perhaps they don't need to though? I quite like that F1 has so many levels. You can watch some fugly cars going round a track, or if you want to dig a little deeper, there is a LOT more to find out.
Why would you want to watch fugly cars go round a track? ;)
I ask myself this every.single.day.
Exactly, there is only so much the BBC can fit in particularly with all the politics going on. They take the time to explain terms like oversteer and understeer. I did notice though Lynam didn't mention there bit explaining pit stops.
Because it's better than nothing!
The thing is, it's true of all sports. There is always something you can learn.
I consider myself a casual fan of tennis. I don't know the difference between the surfaces, I still can't get my head round how the tie break scoring works, and I don't understand the world rankings.
But I still watch sometimes, and I still enjoy it. Same with F1 for the casual fans, I would imagine.
I think I experienced this with 20/20 Cricket last Friday too. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people I would affectionately call 'raving bores' that just think F1 is cars going round in circles because they don't understand it. I can't seem them being entertained by Sunday's race TBH.
Okay, but then they aren't going to be interested in it. The same way I'm not interested in rugby or cricket. You can't make people find something interesting.
Very true. I'm not much of a fan for cricket. But my mate who I watched it with (Who's mad keen) explained it a little bit and I think I enjoyed it more as a result. Surely a little understanding would have helped in the F1 race too?
Naturally. I don't think you can rely on the commentators for that though. They are there to talk about what they can see, not guiding new people through the process.
I'd say that watching with someone who does know is a much better way, and it seems more and more that visiting online communities is a great way to get help too.
To enjoy anything, you must be open minded to enjoying it. You have to give it a chance.
The great thing about tie breaks is they don't use them in the final set of a match at three of the Slams, but they do at the US Open. If they can't even use the same rules all season, what hope do we have :D
Ted News
Does he mention meeting Mr C?
Yay!
Thats 2 Ted blogs now on the Mole's section.... come on BBC, get the idea!
Sadly no. You guys aren't olympic enough to get a mention it seems :(
Boo, Mr C will be crushed. They've got an affinity and everything.
:D
Make the Mole blog a Ted blog? :D
Better go get these results then...
Will let you guys know later :) Bye for now!
Good luck!!
Fingers crossed for ya mate!
I think I need to stop making life decisions based on sidepodcast. I am tempted to order pizza for dinner because I can't be bothered cooking. And I never order pizza.
What does pizza have to do with Sidepodcast?
Ordered online?
oooh someone hasn't been reading Christine's blog ;)
of course. If I can't do things online I don't do them.
Oops. :D
Excellent.
Just read the entry. Online delivery is all the rage now - even here, surprisingly. ;)
I hate that in this day and age, restaurants don't all have websites, and they don't all have menus on them even if they have a site. I like to know what my choices are before I go out because I am bad at decisions regarding food. I like it all!
Agreed!
I actually like not knowing so much what food they serve. I kinda like surprising myself when I go out to eat - kind of like a food trip. :D It doesn't work out all the time, though...
I am now having a pizza crisis. I don't need two but I can't choose.
Pizza is also good for breakfast?
Tell us your choices! We'll choose for ya. Kinda like Alex's drink at the pub!
Oooh, that's a good idea.
It's good any time of the day. :D And isn't it dinner for Amy already?
Mm, so if you get two, you can have leftovers for breakfast.
Yes!! :D
One is the one I always get - the Chicken Monaco. Has got mozarella, seasoned chicken, fresh tomato, onion, mushroom on tomato sauce.
Second choice is the Chicken Capri which is just new on the menu and has chicken breast and seasoned chicken, baby spinach, grape tomatoes, smoked bacon, fresh garlic on alfredo sauce. Clearly this sounds amazing but I am a creature of habit.
and lunch at work! and dinner tomorrow night!
Mmmm... This just sounds delicious! :D C'mon, give it a try!
I'll take photos :D
You read my mind. :)
I'm hungry.
Me too.
Mmmm... pizza...
Milky bars? thats what the podcast says!!
also, morning all!
because no one won the $50 million it is jackpotting next week to $90 million. That is ridiculous.
maybe that's why they drew the wrong numbers this week? ;) more money for you. :D
Morning, Flabbergash.
sadly my ticket buying days are over. I have had my flutter, and the odds won :D
Ah yes! Well remembered :)
Cheers for the plug guys :) You never know : we might get your autographs next year, :)
S.
Well I only just listened to it this morning, i download them on my pod at work you see, so if i couldnt remember it from 10 minutes ago there's something very wrong... :
as long as the jackpot is big, you try. :D nothing to lose but a couple of bucks. ;)
stop buying when someone wins it - and the jackpot goes back down again. that's what I do. :)
Also, what's the obsession with Rob? he's a smog for god's sake!!
uh oh.
in NZ they are not allowed to jackpot above $30,000,000 by law so once it gets that high someone wins even if they don't have all the numbers. Makes the odds a little bit better.
that's an interesting rule - first time i've ever heard of it.
apparently it stops problem gambling
How often does that happen though?
I don't know what that means, but if it is derogatory then I will not be in a very good mood.
quite often. Normal Lotto doesn't get that high but the Big super-jackpotty-costs-way-more-to-play-and-is-harder-to-win seems to get that high quite regularly.
Just for the name, the choice should be easy really!
I have eaten one during a race before ;)
It's not far away now :D
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/pizza-progress-2-jpg
You mean the Big Wednesday thingy? That competition is ridiculous and is never won until all the prizes are included... silly really!
Oh my god!! You get a status update too? I heart Amy's pizza delivery place.
I forgot to get caps of 'accepting order' and 'making pizza'
i got this one though
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/pizza-progress-1-jpg
yeah and its stupidly expensive, its $21 per ticket or something
Now I'm annoyed that my stupid pizza delivery isn't as exciting as yours.
Oh that's just cool! Complete with a timer and everything! Daaaang.
Morning all.
ooh an aside to watch! :D
Telstra are useless.
tell Dominos UK that Dominos Australia is way better than them. They even have a twitter and a youtube
The Twitter even accepts customer complaints. Niiiice! They run a very good ship! :D
odd. it's not here yet.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/pizza-progress-3-jpg
Morning people of Sidepodcast!
If you have a bob or two, Great Ormond Street Hospital are listing signed displays from all the entire grid: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/starcards4gosh
I dont think that thing is real, it lied to me more than once
That's what I did last night :)
Maybe it will be like the Sims, and you'll get two?
Give it time...
Need time to find my keys because I just realised when I go down to get them I'll get locked out of my apartment.
Confused!! That java stuff i did, the really difficult assignment i had an A, but the really easy timed in class exam i failed! Bizarre.. Everything else i passed comfortably, and i can redo that assessment over the summer so all is good :) just confused at how i managed to do that! Oh and i passed that exam where we only got taught one q... O.o
Pretty good Bruno Mantovani vid for Silverstone.
Features Vettel in a crib, Webber hitting his car, and... Bruno Senna in a fridge?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j90qgptxtfE
Yay! Well done Lukeh!
Hmmm... Maybe you got careless with the easy exam?
Otherwise, good job! :D
Well done!
Concerning that exam, apparently i made it far too complex with a file system when all was wanted was a text file output. So ill happily admit its an error on my part, and i can redo it no problem. :)
Could someone in Australia do me a quick favour and see if a site works?
Telstra are supposed to be streaming the state of origin game for free in the uk, but they appear to have instead geolocked the uk out :(
URL me.
http://bigpondtv.com/SOO2UK
doesn't work for me - says its UK only
It does the same for me:(
And i am in the UK...
I think F1 drivers should make use of Facebook like Roger Federer does with his. His is my favourite ever.
it's a temporary thing. the redesign keeps getting pushed back, so that subtitle is there as a stop gap.
i'm assuming we'll never settle on one slogan, and it'll be every changing to reflect our moods?
I quite like it. It makes me want to put a feather in my hat and swoosh a sword about.
avast! although since you change the name of the podcast it puts it in a different catagory in my ipod, thanks for that.
That was weird?
ha!
... yessss :)
Have you read it?
wow! me too.
gooood man :)
in that case it's stayin'!
i read the pizza thing. yes.
Wow. Go you :)
Pizza 1
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dsc06895-jpg
Pizza 2
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/dsc06896-jpg
I am sure pizzas used to be bigger.
I also wonder if the arrival of credit card ordering means drivers get a lot less tips than they used to?
there is no sense of scale though? you need to put a mug in shot.
who tips a delivery boy?
on the subject of des lynam. permission to say, he's a....
There's no scale reference so how can we tell from the pics?
Well they could do with a tip seeing as they are treated like dirt :(
...Wait, be careful, it's Des we're talking about here!
ce ?
our standard farewell used to be 'keep the change'
my delivery boy today seemed angry i didn't have a pen to sign the credit card receipt, he had to go back to his car to get one.
I have settled into an eating position so you'll have to take my word for it ;)
"ably assisted by David Coulthard and Eddie Jordan, from whom Jake could take a tip."
????
hes lost his job. i think he wants the bbc gig back
I get very mad with Dominoes NZ policy on hiring of pizza staff - I have to be very careful what I say here, but let me put it this way: I had to give up on deliveries because no matter where I lived, they couldn't find my house. SO I started ordering in and I had to give my name as 'Bob' so they understood me!
he's lost hi mind too.
your delivery boys use cars? ours just use motorcycles...
we seem to have a bit of both
Bah humbug. ;)
Drink fuel, regular oil top ups, engine that is witchcraft. ;) It's unusual, and as such, not popular.
The Old RX-7 Turbo lumps required rebuilds at around 60k - current renesis model engines are good for over 200k
3 - 1 that drives, 2 that don't. Plus an additional one on order.
Shhhhh. ;)
Errr. The block was mine. Ferrari Dino 2.4 V6
The other was the cylinder heads from an Essex engined Capri that I was rebuilding for a mate. He has since ditched that engine and the entire drivetrain and stuck a Escort Cosworth drivetrain in it - shame - it was immaculate. :(
Cruelty - photo's of pizzas!
*goes to check what time his local pizza place opens...*
You would think that an engine that won Le Mans should be pretty reliable on the road right? Else, let me never say again that "Racing Improves The Breed"!
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/148851/1/horner_praises_brawns_commendable_fota_loyalty.html
I didn't know Christian Horner was just 35. He's done an awful lot pretty quickly, hasn't he? I mean, F1 team principal at 35? That's amazing!
No way - he looks too old!
Hey everyone, Good Morning!!
That's what the article says... I do remember a story about the other team principals not thinking too much of him when he came in 2005. After all, he was only 31 then! Then he earned their respect when he managed to nab Adrian Newey from McLaren.
Aaah the 787
That engine bared only a little resemblance to the road engine. Road engine has 2 rotors, race car has 4..
Also had variable inlets, an extra sparkbplug per chamber, - 700bhp from 2.6litres. Pretty close to the current F1 engines.
Looks like we won't be seeing Hockenheim back on the calendar anytime soon, ir's lost funding from the German government
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76494
Never ever been a fan of the small circuit anyways,.
Just as I suspected. Richard Porter from Sniff Petrol doesn't think that racing improves technology - he thinks that if a team didn't go racing they would spend the money on R&D instead and develop the same stuff...
What's the point of racing an engine to prove it works when it has nothing to do with the roadcar variant?
I miss the old Hockenheim. What an awesome track!
It produced pretty good racing - but yeah, it's not irreplaceable.
Nelsinho Piquet must be thinking - "I get a podium there, then the race gets dropped from the calendar?!"
this whole 'alternating' thing hasn't really worked out in any country recently has it.
Also, why is it Bernie is willing to accept a cheaper deal from the guys who run the Hockenheimring, but then be so damn ignorant financial wise with no compromise towards the guys at places like Montreal? :(
0/2 it is, too...
Schumacher effect?
Yup. A shame Hockenheim couldn't hang on - it's pretty obvious der Seb will be big in a couple of years...
You learn what doesn't work. Racing is marketing and R&D at the same time.
F1.com's latest Ask the Expert will be right up Amy's street AND Franck gets a mention as well. Heavenly.
http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2009/6/9550.html
top of the leaderboard.
The other guy like Nightwish! Awesome :o
VERY good! :D
Everyone in Aust watch Chaser right now - they are doing Stig jokes!
*falls over*
I saw an interview with him the day after he had been to a Nightwish show in London. He had lost his voice :D
can't find channel changer thingy. Will watch on ABC website later :D
On the other hand, don't! Horrible programme!
I wonder if its geolocked? Was very funny - they were seeing if people would let fake stig borrow their car. It was probably set up, but they got one guy let them take him and his car to France!
Am getting tweets that Max is out from October. Can everyone look at major sources to confirm this?
BBC confirms it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8116756.stm
At last!
They have Mr C's problem:
But it appears a resolution has not been found...
Meaning "now" surely?
It must mean now. Will go check Autosport too.
Does this deserve its own post?
Afternoon all
Yay!
booo fotaf1 sounded fun, max will just run it with a puppet
Woah!!
Erm, not sure. I have little to say about it but Mr C may do.
No more Thwax! :D
I think the fact that Amy still gets a good race in Melbourne deserves a post ;)
The teams are fools if they do this... FOOLS!
Heh. :P Nah, I don't think so - Max would only back out if he knew the numbers were against him. Otherwise, he would've run anyway, whatever FOTA said.
It has to be, thats very confusing otherwise :D
And stop calling me Shirley!
(sorry, too tempting :P)
Now the best part of the summer begins - silly season! 6 new seats, and some expiring contracts - this will be fun. :D
Bye Heikki, I'll miss you *sob*
So, I am definitely missing something. How does getting rid of Max mean the teams are now okay with the new regulations?
Even if he loses his McLaren seat, I like his chances of still getting a seat - maybe at Manor?
Because it was only ever about Max in the first place?
It said there was a deal of some sort. Max out was only part of it. It remains to be seen what the other parts of the deal are...
Unlikely.
I think it's probably going to be closer to what we have this year.
It wasn't ONLY about Max, but it was MOSTLY about Max.
I don't believe a word of it. Max will just keep all the power, and tell the teams what they like until November then it will be back to how it is now, an we will probably do this whole thing again in 18-24 months time.
The only thing I really wonder is if Bernie has been forced to cough up more cash. if he has cvc could be rocking...
It's just not the same :(
I think it's more than that. Max leaving must be ONE of the reasons
I'm sure he'll be at Le Mans next year...
Perhaps with new cost-cutting measures? And maybe they'll implement Sir Frank's idea of getting current teams to mentor the new ones?
Then how will the new teams manage?
Di Resta? YAY !
He has a bright future in recording ringtones...
See Force India and Toro Rosso
If that is true, and these past few months have only been about that, I am even more mad at the sport than I ever have been.
If that was the case, I think FOTA would've said no anyway. We shall see what Boeri and/or Craw came up with as a solution.
They wont, unless they get help
someone rang me today, i let it ring for a while. :D
Disobeying him?
I never thought of it like that :( (sorry Heikki)
Oh how the tables have turned!
:D But you did pick up the phone... after a while. :)
At least Di Resta might keep the car on the road a bit more
Lets see how long it takes for the AGPC to put tickets back on sale
I don't see Di Resta getting it. 2 Brit drivers wouldn't impress the sponsors.
Oh I never thought of that. Booo.
What is think blinking football game? Isn't tennis meant to be on?
Grrrr.. ill trade ya!
Oh dear, silly Tipsarevic..
I'm not sure you would....
Can you say - Nico Rosberg - McLaren Mercedes driver?
There's more now:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8116756.stm
more from the bbc:
"There will be no split. We have agreed to a reduction of costs"
i still want to hear it from fota though.
Oh please no. Keep Heiiki !
belive me, the channel which has state of origin went bust yesterday and stopped broadcasting.
they put some bigpond stream on for uk people, then geolocked the uk out of it.
Good old telstra.
Same here, lets see what they say!
"There will be one F1 championship (but) but the objective is to get back to the spending levels of the early '90s within two years."
Why the (but)? BBC are in such a rush to be FIRST! with this news.
It is a less than inspiring game.
Timo I would accept. Not-quite-Finn I would not.
Bless him, he really hasn't done well at Mclarenhas he?!
Bring in Glock :-)
One has dodgy sunglasses, one has a dodgy headband. This is the oddest game of tennis ever!
Its 18-14 and Queensland are on the verge of history!
Hehe :)
Tipsarevic has made some stupid mistakes. Plus smashing a tennis ball over the court in frustration isn't the smartest thing to do, surely....
I like Fish. Because his name is Fish. Heh.
But didn't Timo already say he was staying at Toyota for 2010? And given that Jarno isn't getting any younger, that might be the right thing to do.
The Beeb journalist says:
"It was him that had come up with the idea that next season all teams would have a budget cap of about £40m, but there has clearly been a trade-off as he has also agreed to do what he says was always the plan - stand down as president of the FIA this October."
not a clue, I have avoided any silly season talk this year. And last year too, since Heikki got announced for 09 so early :D
They've got it Nick, 22 14
Its making me giddy!
So now AUTOSPORT report it, with "more to follow"
Make that 24 14. Now where is the tennis?!
Its slightly ironic that
AmyAAMI Is sponsoring them and they are keeping the tennis off the tvlucky you're with AAMI.
Hehe!
After mentioning 'Amy from Sidepodcast' far too many times around Zoe lately, I'll have to be careful how much I sing this jingle. I am insured with AAMI so I tend to sing "lucky I'm with AAMI"
Didnt the ad with todd make you want to leave?
Amy? Who is Amy? I am Guy Incognito.
I was starting to look foward to a breakaway. Mind you it means I won't need to rename my blog :D
I now need to blast though wooded hils on a kayak with a windsurfer sail and an outboard engine...
Thank You Cambell's soup for telling me what my dreams should be...
It's more fun standing up on a board - trust me
From Autosport...
AUTOSPORT understands that as part of the agreement the teams must call off the breakaway series and sign up to a new Concorde Agreement until 2012.
"There will be no split," said Mosley. "We have agreed to a reduction of costs. There will be one F1 championship but the objective is to get back to the spending levels of the early 1990s within two years."
The FIA is expected to announce the official entry list for the 2010 Formula 1 World Championship later this afternoon.
i dont know, kayacking overground might be more manly?
You can watch your tennis now :D
also reporting that Di Montecarlo was in talks with Bernie and Max overnight before the WMSC meeting
You beat me to the punch, Lukeh. This will tell us once and for all if peace has indeed broken out.
Currious, wonder what the other teams think.
a bit like the old Solo adds ;-)
Will N.technology be on it?
I heard Ferrari were quite annoyed they weren't.
I'm sure this is no surprise
I like how with all the war with FOTA and FIA we've had constantly grumpy pictures of Max, and now it's seemingly settled, AUTOSPORT's main picture is a smiling Max :P
I dont think so, it will all blow up again once the teams realise Mosely hasn't really gone.
Homer: "Hello. My name is Mr. Burns. I believe you have letter for me."
Postal Worker: "OK, Mr Burns. What's your first name?"
Homer: "I don't know..."
Do you really think Mosley will still have power after October? I'd think LDM is too smart to fall for that again, if that were the case...
:D
on the autosport news page, its not even the main story!
Indeed - LDM is FOTA president.
http://www.autosport.com/news/
Sam Michael is simply more important than the sport no doubt. ;)
Itr is on their front page
:D
..and that is AUTOSPORT ;-)
The front page is rubbish though, it keeps telling me to give them money.
Oh! Russian tennis babe
I'm sorry Sam, whenever I see 'Michael', you're name is not the one that comes to mind.
michael who? :P
Andretti. :D
Parkinson?
angelo?
amy you totally know you need a new screensaver for your phone
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/heikki-jpg-3
resolution! any news on the actual budgt cap?
My real name is Michael. I don't use it. True story.
But why? It's a great name!
oh my god! HEY DUDE
That's a big watch
JA has published an entry confirming Max will step down as FIA President, but with a caveat about where he'll go next:
http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/
Hi guys, just on my lunch. The war is over at last!
At last, indeed. I really wanna talk about the silly season - that will be a fun discussion. :D
I wish Tag Heuer would use him in their advertising. I judge watch shops by which posters they display :D My favourite is one in St Kilda that has Kimi + Jenni in the window.
Breakaway talk will commence in 4.5 months and counthing
I think the admin required to juggle the order of things is not the work of a moment, to be fair...
I bought a Tag Heuer F1 years ago as one of my first F1 puchases
So, Glock to McLaren...
According @backstreetboys they are coming to Australia. Could my dreams finally come true? ;)
Ah, Cheers, but thats a little odd for a news site.
Even their womens watches are faaaaar too big for my tiny little wrists. Shame really, I quite like them.
They can't - they'd already be committed to 2010. I think the challenge will be to get a candidate FOTA will agree with.
Won't happen. It'll be Nico off to Woking...
The only question that matters is: Will there be room for Franck?
Also, Balestre was in the Senate even after Max beat him. It didn't mean he had much power, though...
My TAG Monaco is one of my most prized possessions
A resounding yes for me - He can get seats at Campos or Manor. Question is, does he want to come back? Or would he rather focus on Le Mans?
Unfortunatley Team Ex Super Aguri's entry was not accepted.
But if the FW31 continues improving, will he want to?
Boo.
He might, sure - the upside of staying at Williams in a cost-reduced era is bigger than it is now. But... will he tempted by offers from the bigger teams (probably McLaren, possibly BMW, possibly Toyota)?
If he came back and managed to beat Toyota AND Renault, how sweet would that be? :D
what would Nico bring besides being German and topping each FP2
He wants a car that had the potential to let him win races. So far, those 3 teams don't.
For 2011 i mean, im sure the fota lawyers will be keen to put in an exit clause at every turn this time round.
Nico is so incredibly underwhelming. Please McLaren, you haven't had a driver I have disliked that much in as long as I have supported you!
renault weren't mean to him were they? flav just decided he wanted... ummm.. hokey cokey.
That's true. We shall see what happens then.
There was some Super Aguri gear on sale at Le Mans you know...
Right now, only Brawn and Red Bull have won races this season. Ferrari might win one too. He won't get any offers from Ferrari or RBR. But Brawn may decide not to renew Rubens' contract...
More chance than Williams. I head a rumour from a fool of a friend of mine that dave Richards was thinking of buying the frank's stake in the team team at the weekend, i don't believe him for a second, but i wonder how much longer they really want to carry on. especially as they are loosing their tittle sponsor.
Mean!!
I posted about that, before i think he would be a great fit at brawn.
True but he still didn't get a race seat out of it. I think since Toyota let him go, he has really come on strong in terms of talent. He deserves a second shot at F1, regardless of whether I like him or not, which I do of course. :)
Admittedly not as mean as Toyota though, who are evil.
agreed.
Timo is a better candidate - this season he holds the record for the most amount of overtaking. Even more significant he has shown he can drive a car that is heavy with fuel and manage the tyres at the same time.
and fairly useless. He's better off not there
Wasn't he like topping FP sessions and stuff and then Toyota promised him a race drive which never came true?
And I heart Timo. He would be a good one to vocally support while I secretly actually support Heikki in a team thats not my team.
ok I would accept Timo I guess
So we all like Timo and want him to go to McLaren yet we don't think it's gonna happen? Riiiiiiight......
Frank will race to the end - on whatever budget. He's a racer through and through.
The problem with not renewing Rubens' contract is that Jenson often uses Rubens set up. In this area Rubens is very experienced. I also think he will get closer to matching Jenson for the rest of the season.
nope. i think timo should replace nick.
The rumour suggests Mercedes themselves WANT Timo.
Perhaps Mclaren will run Karthikien next year to prepare him for a chance in the force india team?
More or less, that's the case...
Why Nick is very good at set up - now you need experienced drivers - that is one problem Macca have.
He had his chance. Didn't do too well either.
I'm sure they do - but does Timo want them?
Why? Rosberg would help them sell their little sporty cars to their target demographic of 'Desperate Housewives' a lot better :D
I'm still for Di Resta, and it's really nothing to do with his name :-)
If I had a choice between Toyota and Mercedes, I know who I'd pick...
Would RG secretly support Heikki too? ;)
Nico's hair is far too outrageous for McLaren's clean cut policy. Remember Alonso's McLaren hair? Heheh.
He seems to have got quite a bit better since then. the money got him into f1 before, i think it was way to early.
Ol' One-armed bandit Narain didn't exactly get a fair shot in the Jordan did he?
#1 at Toyota, or #2 at McLaren behind Lewis. I think that's how Timo sees it.
You're not Steven Roy are you? ;)
Force India or Manor come to mind for him.
Nuvo Mclaren is different though, look what happened to lewis's helmet at the weekend.
And if he had done donuts before ron would probably have kicked the pit gantry onto the grid.
ah, great minds....
That is what I have heard - endorsement by Norbert no less!
That reminds me that I forgot to watch DTM the other day. Ah well, any days a good day when theres no Ralf in it.
But he can't beat Trulli unless it's wet.
I like his chances at Manor - Does Liuzzi still have that deal with FIF1 for a 2010 race seat?
True. I had forgotten about NEO McLaren :D
DTM is the worst parts of F1 and Touring Cars mixed together :(
Why do you think Toyota will dump Jarno? He is pretty fast and scoring!
Did Lewis get fined for that by the way?
I've never watched it, I thought I'd give it a chance :D Left over Mika love I think. Even though hes not there anymore :(
Nope :D
from Joe's blog:
Now that is news.
Just a slap on the wrist reprimand, right?
So the FIA aren't biased to Ferrari after all! :D
not last weekend!
Yes but this was Timo for McLaren where Mercedes want a German driver (not surprisingly). Trulli is a very under-estimated driver and yes he is doing better at the moment than Timo - but next year it could change with no refueling!
blimey.
Altogether now - WHO?
indeed.
Why do Mercedes suddenly want a German driver when they never seemed to have cared since the partnership began?
You think so? I seem to remember Mika doing donuts in the past with no pit gantry kicking from uncle ron.
Head of the Automobile Club de Monaco (ACM). Prince Albert's rep at the FIA. ;)
Does that mean Max isn't in charge anymore?
It is rumoured that Toyota won't be renewing Trulli's contract after this season ends.
But they did - they wanted Michael Schumacher to drive a McLaren in 1996. But Michael had other ideas after talking to Ron...
In a word - yes.
But then the gearbox didn't have to hold for 4 races
Two points - public pressure and there are five German F1 drivers so senior management will be asking such questions. True, in the past Macca have not cared to insist on a German driver but I think Mercedes will take more role in decision making.
he's still in charge, but presumably he won't be attending races any more?
Theres still 10+ years in between though
true. but that mclaren isn't likely to score a point for the rest of the season. he may as well lunch all the engines too.
If true he will be picked up by one of the new teams.
McLaren haven't had a German driver since Jochen Mass. Why would it suddenly matter now? And if it really did, have they forgotten Vettel?
I imagine that the 2009 season review will have a lot of Max in it compared to previous seasons which will be annoying.
By the sounds of it, they have agreed not to continue the breakaway if Max no longer talks to them and leaves the FIA
if they are continuing negotiations - they haven't agreed to the 2010 regs yet.
They tried getting him in 96 and 2000 - failed both times because of Ron.
Now that Ron isn't around, I don't think Martin has as much leverage over Mercedes.
Vettel is contracted to Red Bull next year ;)
There is no public pressure of having a German driver in a Mercedes car. At least not here in Germany. Mercedes see themselves as a international company. They want somebody like Mika, whom they can use for their marketing.
Would Vettel be interested? He is arguable in the best team at the moment!
with boeri handling f1 negotiations now, you may be right.
but if there's an entry list by this afternoon, surely some rules have to be in place?
and bmw may have options. not to mention ferrari might be interested.
*cuddles server*
NO! It's not leaving... It's staying here. I like this one. I want to keep it.
awwww!
And isnt any good at overtaking...
A lot of money for a driver who just follows other cars isnt necessarily a good idea.
I suspect he will want to go to a team where he is number 1 and wont have to face comparison with another quick driver.
Hey Dudes at Mercedes,
Heikki makes me want to buy products and services. What a lovely young man he is.
Love, Amy
good points all. mclaren will have to go to the back of the line.
What sort of restaurant are you at!
:P
:D
you were not here when we decided Alonso is also no good at overtaking. And Webber. And everyone else on the grid :D
And such a gentleman too.
I guess it depends if those products and services include Merc cars?
A bit harsh, the Red Bull doesn't seem like its a good car for overtaking. Once it gets in the dirty air it has problems Webber behind Barrichello.
Pity nobody knows who he is
(Anteeksi Amylle)
I heard an interview which said that with Vettel doing so well there is pressure to see more Germans doing well in F1. In my books Timo has way more personality that either Mika or Kimi!
Stops for people on crossings. And can name other people who have won stuff. Like Franck. A+.
You really are an SPC regular. :D
:D :D
I like that when I go to the Finnish links you post Heikki is on the sidebar about 12 times :D
:)
and Timo doesn't? I think both Timo and Nico are very marketable - but Timo has more promise - Nico has been a bit over hyped and likes modifying the nose of his car!
You wouldn't want to let it go either...
It's a beast of a machine. 4 x 2.7ghz Opeteron Quad Core CPU's
128gb ram
10x1.5tb hdd's
I want to keep it...
future Finns
*falls over*
Just got this via twitter - Peace deal has been agreed between FIA and teams to end breakaway threat. Details on www.jamesallenonf1.com Still reading for any details.
Hi mel! Indeed there are.
That said - why no FOTA statement yet? Are they waiting for the entry list to come out? Or are there other problems?
Atte is the only one I know anything about. He used to drive for Kimi's team.
All I know is I was supporting Karjalainen in F2 :D
I'd guess they still have a number of fine points to get sorted out, otherwise I'd expect to hear more than this. Hopefully we get more before the end of the day.
I will LOL if this is Max's idea of putting pressure on FOTA
It's on the BBC now: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8116756.stm
If Luca is sitting next to him i will believe it, if its Alan Donnelly i will remain skeptical!
Good news for Brawn and Red Bull - and Ferrari to a certain extent. I'm sure McLaren supported this, but will it help their 2010 chances?
hello :)
perhaps because LDM was the one to hash out the deal and the other FOTA members don't agree/are annoyed at him/have finally realised LDM was treating the whole thing as a power play and never really cared about the sport?
Also, how much were the teams spending in the early '90s? I find it odd that Max didn't give an actual figure.
Ah, Luca was involved. I wonder what will happen next...
Very strange FOTA are silent, i would expect them to be triumphantly celebrating that they got what they wanted.
I have an xServe and some Sun boxes in my rack in the garage. Come over anytime.
I think you win though... :D
They can basically view the rest of 2009 as one big long test sesion.
McLaren, if their next update doesn't work certain will.
it was mostly about Max - and I'm sure all the teams will say that. Flav also said something to the extent that they wanted 09 rules in place next year. so they really got what they wanted, it would seem.
AUTOSPORT still think Sam Michael is the big story, shouldn't we be discussing that?
did we mention this quote from max:
"As far as I'm concerned the teams were always going to get rid of me in October, well they still are. Whether the person who succeeds me will be more to their liking remains to be seen."
Here's a thought - they said Max leaving wasn't a condition to them rejoining for 2010. Perhaps why there is no statement for Max out - because it shouldn't matter to FOTA as a whole. They're more concerned about the rules and such. And perhaps they're waiting for details on that to be released before they make a statement.
If luca has done a deal they should really know the details already.
maybe we'll have to wait until tomorrows fota meeting for their confirmation?
Hmmm... Now I'm really thinking we haven't heard the last of Jean Todt.
Vote Dennis or Stoddy!
It's official:
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wmsc/2009/Pages/wmsc_240609.aspx
Haha, I think there is more chance that Max would become FOTA president!
cheers sir.
Interesting bit from this announcement:
RBR-TBA, STR-TBA, Brawn-TBA.
None of them have 2010 engine deals? That has to be addressed sooner or later. I'm sure Brawn will get Mercs, but will RBR gets Renaults or Ferraris?
Excellent! A fact emerges!
Still TBA on a lot of engines...
New Concorde agrement, not a continuation
And no calender, although thats to be expected i guess.
It says upgraded version of 1998 - sounds reasonable enough.
I just can't believe we have gone through all this rubbish for the past few months and nothing has changed.
this is nuts:
"...the rules for 2010 onwards will be the 2009 regulations as well as further regulations agreed prior to 29 April 2009."
well... those regulations included cost caps and a two tier championship?
also:
"As part of this agreement, the teams will, within two years, reduce the costs of competing in the championship to the level of the early 1990s"
does that account for inflation?
Yay. thanks!
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed too ... hoped for more sweeping "reforms" than this!
the same thing will happen all over again in three years.
All good films leave you wanting a sequel ;)
Three? why do I fear you're being optimistic?
i don't think FOTA agreed to that? key word here is agreed - must be agreed between FOTA and FIA, right?
Now that is vagueness defined. I guess the teams were insistent on not putting a specific figure?
What a waste of time and energy.
Not sure why you seem to think the same story ought to be given the most prominent positioning in two different elements of the same page?
Well, because FOTA wanted nothing to change - if anything was gonna change, they wanted to have a say in it first. And they got what they wanted.
wota
That's F1 politics for you - painful at the best of times.
painful and pointless.
Are we looking at the same page? Im on the free site...
http://www.autosport.com/news/
Hello everyone!
Was just wondering what the meta bit means in campos meta team.
Does anybody know?
The homepage has it blaring out at you.
how come rbr, str and brawn can enter the 2010 championship without naming an engine supplier then?
What a frittering of time and energy...
FOTA
Just had a phone call from my Dad about this. He summed it up in one sentence.
"Well that was a load of complete 'love spuds' then!"
:D
In tennis news:
Maria Sharapova fighting for her Wimbledon life. She's just fended off two match points.
The official response from the FIA was:
"Lalalalalalala we can't hear you, shut up shut up shut up"
I guess the new teams had to do so to prove they could actualy get one, older ones are given a bit more freedom
I wish my guts would join in this spirit of compromise and rapprochement, because it's going to be a long weekend at the Norisring if they don't...
I'm liking the sounds that herald a new comment being posted. Got to go back to work now, but will be online later.
you did recover from lemans, right?
rbr not interested in renault? brawn looking elsewhere?
odd.
Ah. It would appear not.
Yes, but it seems to have made a comeback...
Scratch that. She is out of Wimbledon - in Round 2.
I guess it feeds the mainpage, im not used to looking at it though, so it does make sense..
Silly nick
it already seems a quieter place
:D
The Brawn-Mercedes deal was only for one year, I would guess that in the current climate no one wanted to confirm a deal for next year?
Could be Renault not wanting to be embarrassed by a customer car. For Brawn to run Mercedes they need a similar concession to this year (for Merc to supply three teams with engines). I think Red Bull might also end up with Merc engines!
I like this Dulko woman.
Am trying to think up a good tennis podcast name. Wimblecast just doesn't do it for me.
Where's Amy? Roger is next on Centre Court.
Maybe they will run Ferrari's rebadged as Vatican City engines?
*there is a flag reference there if you missed it.
we're doing tennis now?
Indeed. :D
Are you thinking of creating one? Lemme think of one...
:D
Tennis or pandas. Your choice.
what about pandas who play tennis?
Game, Set & Podcast?
Oooh!
Or just no ink on the contract yet? The teams have been busy doing other stuff, so renewing engine deals may have been on the back burner.
Completely missed it. Cool flag though :)
No - it's a trap! :D
http://www.inmagine.com/sc522/sc522009-photo
Hehehe. Mr C, we got a logo!
:)
Could have been considering Cosworth if they were allowed to run unrestricted. I think that is history so unlikely to be any new Cosworth customers.
The Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) will officially call off its plans for a rival championship tomorrow after reaching a breakthrough deal with the FIA.
Following last-ditch talks between FIA president Max Mosley, FOTA chairman Luca di Montezemolo and F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone, an agreement was reached that commits the teams to the sport until 2012.
FOTA members had been set to press ahead with breakaway plans in the meeting in Bologna tomorrow, but following its victory in getting the FIA and Ecclestone to agree to terms that keeps its eight members in F1, it will now rubber stamp final cost-cutting regulations for 2010 and call off its breakaway instead.
The deal between the FIA and FOTA was confirmed on Wednesday afternoon, when the FIA announced that its planned budget cap for 2010 had been scrapped, and instead FOTA-proposed cost-cutting regulations will be introduced.
In a bid to help new teams, technical assistance will be offered to Campos Meta, Manor Grand Prix and Team US F1 by major outfits.
The FIA statement said: "As part of this agreement, the teams will, within two years, reduce the costs of competing in the championship to the level of the early 1990s.
"The manufacturer teams have agreed to assist the new entries for 2010 by providing technical assistance."
As part of the deal with FOTA, the teams' association has agreed to recognise the FIA's position as the sport's governing body, adding that a new Concorde Agreement has been agreed in principle to keep all of the teams in F1 to 2012 and, upon re-negotiation, it is hoped beyond.
"The manufacturer teams have further agreed to the permanent and continuing role of the FIA as the sport's governing body," added the statement. "They have also committed to the commercial arrangements for the FIA Formula 1 World Championship until 2012 and have agreed to renegotiate and extend this contract before the end of that period.
"All teams will adhere to an upgraded version of the governance provisions of the 1998 Concorde Agreement."
Furthermore, with it clear that FOTA is not trying to usurp the FIA's authority, FIA president Max Mosley has agreed to not stand for re-election in October.
what do we think the new teams will really run. not cosworths, surely?
But it's already on the entry list - I wonder how they'd take it back.
USF1 was rumored to be looking at running Toyotas. Not sure what Campos or Manor would have in mind, though.
Oooh, that wasn't me.
Furthermore, with it clear that FOTA's main disagremeent was not about the FIA's authority, FIA president Max Mosley has been forced not stand for re-election in October
FIxed!
I think they will be running them, unless a team like Manor simply buy the Lola designed car that is rumoured to exist.
Was that for a post?
It wasn't me.
:D
we have x2 christine's?
Lamborghini engines have been rumoured
Honest guv.
Two of them?!
Maybe one is from the future!
...I told you Steven Roy!
well last time that was a joke!
really? what have i missed?
A Lambo V8? its not 1981!
they dont do single digits anymore do they?
I am not saying this for existing teams but Brawn must have thought about using Cosworth if the rules allowed it to have no rev restrictions. Probably not an option and the Cosworth will be restricted like everyone else.
Do I get to do what the celebs do and sign on as The Real Christine now?
I may have started that rumour though...
It wont be as reliable, at least initially. Cosworth have missed this attrition era of f1 engines.
hehe. we need an "official badge" like on twitter.
:D
Oh god...
I remember their engines with Lotus. They sounded great... Yup, thats the best thing I can say about them..
Colour coded doohicky!
you are obsessed!
;)
and they broke down continuously!
hehe, i need some colour in my life!
I like to remember the positives about Lotus.
They sounded fabulous. Only V12 Lotus.
If only your name was Joseph, you could get the best coat EVER
Woops! Didn't mean to cause confusion. I'll be unofficial christine
Joe gets everything...
His own show on here, the best job ever, Now the best coat ever...
Not Fair!
Hello! :D
(unofficially)
Hehehe. No probs, welcome :)
Sorry - I do like the Lotus Exige S though! Second favourite car - best though is the IFR Aspid which is just a modern Lotus 7!
isn't that alex?
Christine welcomes Christine. :D
Hi! (semi officially)
:D
hehe, next you will be telling me he has a colour doohicky beta!
:D
just need to make Alex and the Amazing Technicolour Coat...
he has a nice hat...
So who do we think should be next FIA president?
I want Nick Craw to be the next President.
Someone from sidepodcast ;)
Steven Roy!
Alianora La Canta!
Mr C!
We have many suitable candidates. :D
Rubens
sorry. i don't do suits.
Flav or Jake Humphreys
if the team principals act like kids though you can chase them down the paddock unlike max. You have suitable experience in chasing people running away so the job should be a shoe in
Roger on Centre Court!
The Stig
It has to be Ron!
Now that would make be belive in change?
But probably Bin Sulleyahm or Ben as he now calls himself
Awesome idea - LOL!
:D
Jackie Stewart? Just to annoy Max!
noticed (by fact that the two posts are right next to each other) that "me" and "mel" sure do look almost the same - think I'll work out a "better" nickname!
Still yet to get around 'me' and 'mel'. That l is invisable to me...
Hey all, is everyone dancing in the streets getting drunk?
FOTA arent yet,,,
I'm lying on my bed feeling rough, so I'm a step ahead of that
Mel?
Was going to respond to that as if you were Mr C. Maybe have a capital M. Mr C doesn't do capitals.
ooh, good plan. you'll not catch me using title-case any time soon.
except in posts? ;)
Is the shift and caps lock button covered in a layers of dust?
First thing I noticed when I discovered sidepodcast!
I don't mean to spoil the good vibes after months of nonsense we went through, but what if Max is lining up Alan Donnelly to take his place as President of the "Ferrari International Assasin"?
And does anyone know if Cosworth is still going to run unlimited revs or 18,000rpm same as everyone?
It's possible, but will he win? I don't know...
Same as everyone, I think.
He'd have my vote.
Going on Radio Wales at 6.10-ish...
I'm sitting on the train with my mate from Trinidad who says hello - he's asking about what happened in F1 too :)
cheers. shall tune in.
hello friend from trinidad.
He says the Americas needs a Grand Prix - he can't believe that the whole of two continents has only one GP!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76499
LDM 'hails' Max's contribution - or maybe he's hailing his exit? :D
Maybe he wants it to hail on him
Hailing him a taxi?
Cannot believe the guy said this - only a day or two back he said he was more than ever determined to stay in power to sort out the issue. The guy just has no integrity what-so-ever!
source: http://www.crash.net/f1/news/148872/1/max_mosley_i_jumped_i_wasnt_pushed.html
Maybe Max is getting a little deaf, an luca had to use a loud hailer
How very Italian - smile in their face as you remove the knife that stabs them in the back.
Let him be - he wants a graceful exit. His words are no longer relevant.
:D
This might just beat getting Ferrari back to the top in 2000 as LDM's biggest ever achievement. Just maybe - it really depends on what happens now.
'Mate from Trinidad' asks why they didn't run Max off immediately - why do they have to wait until October? Surely that's not very constructive to leave him there...
More fun watching him ebb away into the history of time than ramming him straight in front of an oncoming train.
I know - hence LDM comments - it is called "saving face" and everyone can appear a winner. If Max is really out it will be great!
Elections don't take place until October. I don't think the FIA has a concept of snap elections. Even if Max resigned now, he isn't deemed resigned until someone replaces him... At least that's how I remember it works.
He needs a couple of weeks to sort out a way to run the FIA from behind the scenes.
Remove all the powers of the president to the new role of 'Power Tsar'
And find suitable strings with which to control his puppet
But would Boeri and co let him do that?
He liked this comment :D
You should get Mate from Trinidad to post here. ;)
Of course not...
Will he do it any way?
Of course he will
Depends if Boeri is under Max's thumb or not...
I guess the question is who he'd pick to do it. Donnelly is the most likely candidate, but is he popular enough to get elected? I'm not so sure...
He's not - he's aligned with FOTA.
He might try to use Bin Sulleyham, but I think he will prove to be too powerful for Max.
Would agree with that.
Right - need to rush to bed - there's a quiz tonight! :D
Later, everyone. :)
This weeks quiz is apparantly wiki-proof. I have a chance.
Oh, and night.
Hmmm... Interesting, that. Okay. :D
Just in time for Mosely to appear to be the hero of F1 while the actual hero was Luca, and his epicness.
I give Luca a fail.
Although i never relay expected all that much from him... Ron was the brains behind FOTA its a shame he couldn't have pushed through real change.
Thats provisional as i haven't seen if they have achieved anything. If they have i will be impressed.
At the moment it just looks like he blinked
The new HTC hero looks really good, Instead of taking on the iphone they have taken a different route and made it widget based, which is my favourite feature of my current phone.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8117382.stm
Ron Dennis
Paul Stoddart
Jackie Stewart
I can't believe the teams have fallen for this again. I guess in 3 or four years time we will have to go through the whole pantomime again. How can they be so stupid??
I would not not put it past Bernie to backstab Max to save his own hide....
"Greater love hath no man than this to lay down his friend's live to protect his own...." - Some British MP after a savage Cabinet schuffle.... MacDonlad comes to mind...
Jean Todt?
WHAT???
The reason Max wasn't kicked out 5 years ago was because he was able to buy Luca. Ferrari as they always have stabbed the other teams in the back and did a deal that got them a veto and a huge amount of money. Don't be surprised if that has happened again.
Not for me thanks. I could stand Toad when he was in F1 - but in charge of it... *shudders*
I am surprised so many of you believe Max is going. You surely can't believe he is going simply because he said he will? My guess is either he will be asked to stand by such a large number of people that he will feel he has to despite previous promises or there will be some manufactured crisis that only he can handle.
I know a lot of you have not been watching F1 for long but most of you have been watching long enough to understand how Max and Bernie operate.
They are lazy more than stupid...
Untill somone comes in and replaces bernie, it wont happen.
CVC could sack him for this mess, that might be interesting.
Just like when he announced his retirement
I think it was McMillan and the night of the long knives in the 50s
I'm optimistic. It may not happen but in my mind, it will. And until it is confirmed he is not going, then I believe he will be.
Why? Who is the only person who comes out of this untouched and has saved his employer's busiiness by his behind the scenes deals? Who is the only person who has not made a statement they later backed down from?
Untouched?
He's flip-flopped more than an entire troupe of olympic athletes.
FIA are right
FOTA are right
Close to an agreement
No agreement in sight
Max must go
FOTA must go
True, but i shall counter with
Who could have stopped this mess months ago before CVC nearly got pushed over the brink?
Exactly. He has now announced he is going. Just before that he announced he was definitely standing. Before that he said he wasn't sure whether he would stand again or not and before that he said if the vote of confidence went his way he definitely would not stand. And of course just around the time of his original election he said it was wrong for anyone to be in power for more than two terms.
Are you guys buying this because it is what you want to hear or because it was the last thing he said? The only way max will go is if Nick Craw's campaign pushes him out.
You missed out?
There is a problem?
:D He is good comedy value
He can spin that into a statement that he was trying to convince both side he was with them while he worked behind the scenes to sort things out. I would be surprised if he doesn't gain form this whole thing. Either CVC will give him another tranche of shares or he will buy the rights back
Mainly that. But at his age, at sometime he has got to retire, so he could be going this time.
There is a technique in business where you make a small problem into a big problem and solve the big problem to show your boss how good you are.
...With people like Gavin, who misses Ron Dennis?
I have only just started catching up on the news so what has actually been solved?
True but if you do it as a CEO the shareholders tend to see though it as it costs them money.
No FOTA statement.
Max said he will step down after the election
FIA statement here http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wmsc/2009/Pages/wmsc_240609.aspx
The future? http://www.mohammedbensulayem.com/
There appears to be no financial solution which was one of the main stumbling blocks
According to Joe the deal was done last night between Max, Bernie and Luca and no-one else in FOTA was consulted. That seems fishy to me. Max was only saying at the weekend that he could agree stuff with Luca then the loonies scuppered it. What have the loonies got to say about this deal?
Hopefully Nick Craw and co can scupper any succession plan.
I get the feeling Ben is just using max to get to the top quickly.
He's from a powerful family and seems to be able to get things done. Gathering up 40 votes at short notice is impressive.
*cough*
silverstone.
nothing.
He has been rewarded with a nice FIA position and been put in a position where he can build a constituency to run for President. I can't see him being Max's choice though as he is not going to be happy to be a figurehead with Max driving from the back seat.
That was always going to happen anyway.
James Allen Winsssssssss!
Well he gets to keep doing the post race interviews
Some new details? http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/more-details-of-the-deal-which-saved-f1/
That's what it looks like to me. i think it is time someone put Luca in a hostile media conference and asked if the unity between the teams means Ferrari no longer needs special payments and have they given up their technical veto?
I have only scanned the news but as far as I can see there is no financial change, there is no budget cap and related systems agreed, there is no Concorde Agreement signed. Absolutely nothing has been achieved .
Assuming Max does go I will see you all here for the same discussion in 2012 and if he doesn't go it will be a lot sooner.
yup.
one thing has been achieved. the sponsors now believe f1 has been saved, so will likely get their chequebooks out once more.
That last paragraph, my friends, sums up all the problems with the New Hockenheimring quite nicely!
Essentialy FOTA have separated their deals with FOM and the FIA
They also have guaranteed an independent F1 commission
In the mean time the president doesnt go near f1, its dealt with by the senate... where max will soon be.
allen says:
"The crucial points are that the rules for next year will be the same as 2009"
but that's not the case is it? refuelling will still be banned, right?
Effectively it has unbunged all the commercial stuff and driver contracts etc. So at least we can look forward to some silly season rumours.
journeyer may be ahead of you on that one!
There was an independent F1 commission until a couple of years ago. Max shut it down
Interesting. Max is saying that he will not not run for re-election to the President of the FIA in October. Too me, this can only mean one thing.
"All Hail FIA President-For-Life Max Mosley !!!!!"
Refuelling will be banned and narrower front tyres will be introduced
Hi all
Does anyone know how Mr Woodwiss got on this weekend?
Christine & Me I just realised we were stood near each other in Luffield during FP2, I thought I saw you both but thought you weren't going so didn't wanna walk over and say 'howdy' to random strangers!
Did you both see that lad with the ridiculously oversized camera? the lens must of been at least a foot across!
Which leads me on to the next topic, who's good at photography?
But will Max actually stand down when the time comes?
http://willthef1journo.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/peace-in-our-time/
have you not listened to this weeks show?
I guess I need to read back through the comments unless it is the usual bull about Alonso replacing Raikkonen
timo.
Now all we need is for the tyres to be much harder.
Flat floors
Simpler front and rear wings
He will call an election in September
cool. you should've. i spent all weekend doing just that.
Lou is a genius. She is thinking about being a professional and some of her stuff is incredible.
Mattw I think is a professional although I haven't seen as much of his work.
Based on the photos posted here from tim to time there are a lot of really good photographers on this site.
Ilikepotatoes - great name
Max will find some way to maintain a power base
To where
mclaren.
I may have made money from it form time to time.
I think flat floors are problematic. I think they should have a fixed curve on the floor likt the early Tyrrells. Far more elegant than a plank. But then Max and elegant don't go together. Shame no-one intrdueced him to the plank
Simpsons are doing who's on first
Flat floors allow to follow closer. Curvature start acting like diffusers
That is funny.
Not if there are no strakes or skirts or something to create a vacuum. If the wings are simple enough it shouldn't be a problem.
Nooo, why them? Why them?
Not Why, Who
:D
No, la la la la la la la
Can't believe Christine missed this again. She is not going to be happy
I dont know
Remember. Ye Old Pitlane Fanatic Quiz on tonight. Apparantly there is a big twist on for tonights quiz
http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/chat.php
Odds on a RG win shortend to 7-1.
stuart on radio wales.
3rd base
Why?
Listening!
Why's on seventh?
Yeah I was wondering how he got on during the Sat morning, where he went etc...
That's great to hear, yeah i'm looking to upgrade to a SLR camera and want some advice on where to start etc
7th?
stuart on bbc wales:
That was agreed to before April 2009 so it will stand.
he left a bunch of comments upon his return, but more will be posted:
http://www.pumamotorsport.com/fan-report/
Cheers Jordan ;)
comment test
Multicoloured doohicky test!!!??
hehehehehe. just trying to sort the timezone issue.
might be okay now. long story short, is that wordpress changed how timezones worked in WP2.8 which we upgraded to a while back. but for some reason media
templefail didn't support this new method, thus we didn't account for it.am assuming that they decided to sort whatever wasn't working, so yesterday all the caclulations that worked previously suddenly went a bit wobbly.
How about the Yama-grenade engines that sort of powered Michael Antretti's McLaren? :P
McLaren never ran Yamahas. When Andretti drove for them they had Ford HBs
What about the Peugeot engines made form chocolate?
The Peugeots were not Yamahas either
Judd? They were average at best!
All of those engines were bigger than allowed by the current regs. We can only go back a few years till the 2.4 litre V8s were brought in.
The McLaren Peugeot is responsible for one of the best blowups of all time.
94 British GP?
Yup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lQU3Ofs_Dk
woah.
On the train home I have tried a truely mobile video. Nothing very exciting but I am trying to learn how to judge the upper size limit on time correctly.
I remember that well. Hot day, saw my Aunty from Italy. Came home and watched the race and noticed the smoke coming out of the car before the lights turned green...
the upper size limit on time?
it seems that there is no recording limit. Or not one I've hit. But when you e-mail a video it tells you you can't if it's too long. Seems to be about 45 seconds.
ahh, ok.
Time Des lynam was banned from all media. The man is clearly barking.
"Why" and "Because" are the Left and Center Fielders. It is there jobs to catch flies and not get spotting injuries... One "me" learns, we can place him in Right Field to complete the baseball team...
:D .
Nowadays that seems extraordinary but until the manufacturers took hold it was pretty normal. It was not unknown for team princiapals to be th same age or younger than their drivers
Racing does nothing for road cars and hasn't in decades. There is at least as much technology that appears on road cars first and moves into racing than moves the other way. Traction control, ABS, 4 wheel steering, etc etc etc were all in road cars years before they were in racing cars.
What about crash structures, Drive by wire, and turbos?
It certainly helps with tyres, although it is more of in refinement that racing becomes usefull
But suppose the company (be it a car, tyre, fuel manufacturer etc) was not in motor racing and they put some of that money on R&D instead. Would they still have come up with these inventions?
Evening all
How ya feeling?
Evening all :)
Ahh, everything's back to normal in our little world of F1, and it's sheer bliss. Now we can finally get back to what it's all about - the racing :D
Can't say I'm having the best of evening but I'll spare you the moans
Thats what I thought until I came on here. Now its all doom and gloom again.
Ah right, hope you get better soon.
F1 has given us active suspension and paddle shift gearboxes. Be interesting to see if the J Damper has a road car application.
didn't pat symmonds suggest mass dampers came from the 2cv?
The publicity is always that racing improves road cars. Th truth is that there is at least as much going in the other direction. Turbos were in roadcars before they were in F1. Fy by wire I don't know. Crash structures could be argued. There are demo films from American car companies showing how they have built crash structures to survive roll overs in the 50s at a time when racing drivers thought the best thing was to be thrown out of the car in an accident.
Name me anything that has ever been invented by a racing organisation.
Or alternatively not
Have a moan. Sometimes it helps
True, but racing often proves the technology, or advances it to a stage where it is usefull rather than just a gimmick
team orders?
How comes? I've followed it all day when Ive been free and I want someone to explain the negatives of todays action..
Ron Speak?
Tremayne?
Nothing to necessarily moan at, I just feel like an elephant has stamped on my head and spun my round on a carousel then electrocuted me. Which isn't nice when you go out to celebrate your brother's birthday :(
I think you misunderstood. I meant that had the money just been spent on R&D rather than refined by racing, wouldn't it have happened anyway?
Aren't you supposed to feel like that the day after?
The J damper was invented for road cars. McLaren bought the rights from the guy who invented it. Lotus I am sure tried active on road cars first. Flibster?
Semi-automatic gearboxes are old hat. You could argue that they are really nothing more than a jazzed up version of the pre-selectors that were on buses decades earlier. Lotus had a clutch button on a conventional gear lever on the 76
Mass damers are used in sky scrapers and all sorts of things. Some of the mass dampers in buildings are fabulous to watch.
Exactly! Boo to you, backwards bug...thing.
Oh Snap I never made that connection!
Def. not an F1 invention then!
Give me an example. I keep hearing this but I don't think I have ever seen it
Bike racing
rats.
Nothing has changed. There is no new commercial deal. There is no signed Concorde Agreement. Nothing has happened. Max has promised he will not stand for re-election but he already promised that during the vote of confidence and reneged on it.
Interesting choice. Now we need to make that a road car application
Did you spend the evening with Max. Sounds like one of his parties
Sat nav?
If there is a need for something in a road car, real or perceived, it will get money spent on it.
Sat nac with Ronspeak. You would never move.
Evening folks! The world hasn't imploded then?
Hey guys. Considering heading to London tomorrow for the F1 exhibition @ the Science Museum. Would the SPC gang recommend it?
The washing up has inspired me:
1) Mirorrs :were first used on an a car by an american racer i believe
2) The spoiler
this one im not sure about but
the spedometer
It's still spinning away. Especially Lukeh's world
No no no no no no.
Yes for the security guard.
Nope, F1 is back to how it was in the first place :)
How would we know?
Nope. Go to the Ferrari Store instead.
Sidepodcast. The Gift that keeps on giving ;)
We'd all be dead, wouldn't we? Well, except Chuck Norris...
Is it that bad? I'm gonna be in London anyway...
read this:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/04/23/sidepodtour-to-the-london-science-museum/
OK - now here's the killer question: Would those items have been invented by an R&D department of a car company if they had not been first used in a racing car?
I think so...
It's massively underwhelming. Although like I say, the Security Guard watching is the highlight.
I actualy liked it.
I think the table is one of my favourite things I have ever discovered in a museum.
Not exactly the latest F1 technology but I will give you mirrors and spoilers as I don't know different.
Speedometers I doubt. Who wants a speedometer on a race car. No use whatever
Reading it now, Ferrari store is on Regent Street right?
Because we'd all be VERY close together right now?
and this:
http://toata.blogspot.com/2009/04/8-london-bridge-isnt-falling-down.html
If Max has agreed with immediate effect to deal no further with F1 then that's something and that's what I understood to have happened.
Would they bother doing R&D?
Yep, very cool little shop. Very red. :D
I think you're easily pleased ;)
Have you not been to IKEA?
Seriously though, somebody who invented the stairs contacted us and their website was far better than the way the museum displayed them...
I didn't think it was with immediate effect but the only stuff I've gathered is from the radio....
He's said that before and reneged on that though.
oops. we were going to have a chat with that chap...
What car company doesn't develop their product? (GM doesn't count - they're bankrupt ;) )
I haven't seen that but if he is re-elected then that goes out the window
I seem to remember it was first used by a guy on a dirt oval who wanted to lean how to pace his laps, i am not sure on that though.
well you lost joe a few weeks ago, have you checked under the stairs for this guy?
I am sure it is on the list
I went once. Dont think they can expect a repeat visit.
No because the stairs are so gorgeous they keep getting distracted!
we are quite useless. which post was the comment on?
Not quite full time professional yet, but working on it.
If you click on my name, It will take you to my website.
I'm happy to help with questions.
There are no 'bad' cameras in the market, so you cannot go far wrong. When you purchase and SLR, you are buying into the brand (because once you start collecting Canon lenses, switching to Nikon will be expensive...) - so do look at the wider picture of lenses available.
Then it boils down to how much money you have to invest, and what subjects you are interested in (Motor sport I assume - anything else?). Don't forget to budget for memory cards, spare battery, lenses etc.
as I understood it Max will continue to be president until Ocober but someone else will be dealing with the F1 negotiations.
Boo!
There have been speed limits since the 1920s or something. There must have been speedometers then
I have no idea :( I remember the comment but i've no idea if it was on the daily or the actual meetup thread
Boo to you too .. I flung some lasagne at you :)
I flung some bacon back :D
That is not exactly friendly is it? Lobbing lasagne is rarely considered a friendly greeting
:D ooh quick I must go fling something else
It was probably something else then, the guy did invent something though!
So, not going to the F1 exhibit @ the Science Museum now then...
Thanks for the heads up!
found. shall hassle geoff this evening.
Ah right, did I hear correctly that they've agreed to reduce spending to levels seen in the '90s over the next 2 years and that FOTA have cancelled their championship plans?
hehe :)
Seriously, go to the Ferrari Store instead. It's Five Pints Certified by RubberGoat ;)
It's not worth the price entry.
I realise it's free.
If you want your mind blown by a table you should consider it.
Jackie,
We are going to have an all female sidepodpanel in the next series and I notice you have not volunteered yet.
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/All+female+sidepodpanel
Who says I can't do subtle hints
I'll bear that in mind thanks!
I finally found the mass damper clip I was looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYSgd1XSZXc&feature=related
:D
Why would anyone want the same furnitue as everybody else, in a badly designed store.
I have been 3 times i think. I should have stopped after the first
They seem to have discussed and agreed lots and signed nothing
I liked the giant bear in the Ferrari store, and how red everything is. It takes red shops to a whole new level.
That's subtle .. rofl
Ah okay! I get you. Kinda like last time then.... Hopefully Max won't randomly change parts of their agreement this time when it comes to the signing part then!
Still no FOTA presser, i suspect some temas are unhappy and want to vote on it.
For me that is subtle. I think an all female show is going to be really interesting. I wonder if it will be different to the other shows or similar. I really don't know what to expect from it.
FOTA has a meeting in Bologna tomorrow. So it won't be a surprise if it all gets dropped on its head when the "loonies" get involved.
they said tomorrow.
Shall we start speculating on the eventual length?
Duly signed up :D
I think a 'certified half wit' is the only person suitable to be in charge of the 'loonies' - don't you?
Oii .. black flag for that!
yay!
I was hoping to stir something up.
Odd that other team principles havent said anything in response at all. Its just Luca and John i have heard from. Flav loves being in the papers.
White flag?
I have never held back an opinion on here but I am not setting myself up for that. Besides the tick tock is my personal theme tune so I can hardly have a go at anyone else. So long as Amy isn't asking the questions we should be OK
(sorry Amy)
okay, naughty step then
That's great. When we started discussing this it was because there were no female volunteers for the next show and we thought we may struggle to get enough to do this show.
Course if there were a Miss RG, it would reduce the length.
New Mantovani cartoon of the British GP :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWHWyZtSJSk
I think a certified half wit with his matched Purdies should deal with Max and Bernie
Disk breaks have always been one of the great inovations from Motor sport. Invented by Jaguar for Le Mans, and gave them a huge advantage.
Le Mans has also played a major role in the development of car headlights.
Not sure about that
The modern semi-automatic boxes are a far cry from the pre-selectors you mention.
Hehe, Amy's questions were great, i think i did an entire lap of a circuit on wipeout during one of them
Do you ave some other multiple personality thing we don't know about
I loved the opening line .. why does god hate Finish people .. how do you follow that?
I thought that was really weird...
Haha
That was pretty epic :D
No, there is not a Miss RG
I know what you mean in a way. Wasn't as funny as his other ones.
Wouldnt it be Mrs RG?
I have argued about disc brakes before with people who insist F1 always leads technology
I agree with that.
Since I am not old enough to be married, no.
Don't forget the PF Quiz tonight.
What's with Bruno Senna in the fridge. Is he trying to suggest something with that
Ooh I have just noticed a new filter box top right on the doohickey .. what's that do?
I dont think i will ever be
Left out in the cold?
it filters :)
And it's awsome
Magic!
I blame Mark Webber
type a word in and see ;)
It lets you search. Type your name in it and only comments with your name are left
Now type - and a word
Wasn't that Jaguar a Road Car though?
In cold storage to replace Barrichello? I don't know
Ah must try it out after the quiz .. but str8y will kill me if I don't take part so must dash meantime
Maybe he's just cool
Excellent .. unless your name is Chris LOL
The Jaguar was a road car but as far as I know they didn't run discs on the road although no doubt they tried them on the road as a lot of teams tested on public roads and drove their cars to and from the track.
I wonder when the last time a racing car was tried on a public road??
Mmmmm jacket potato!!
Didn't realise it was that late.
It is exceptionally clever .. a bit like its programmer really :D well done!
maybe they're waiting for their meeting tomorrow? i mean, don't the teams need to sign something to signify that they're dropping their conditions? so i guess that means they agree to what happened?
He's in cold storage while no one's getting him to drive for them...
If I were them, I wouldn't drop my conditions without something in writing from Max first ;)
Hmmm... Maybe there IS something in writing? We don't know all the details yet...
That is exactly my view. Make him resign first and get a new deal signed, sealed and delivered.
Most probably, nothing wrong with a bit of conspiracy ;)
:D
Listening to MWM now. :D
damn, i forgot.
is it f1 yet? am in the middle of something.
i don't... think so. just tuned in now. they're mentioning zanardi, so i guess it's wtcc.
but given today's events, maybe they went with f1 first and finished it already? not sure.
Tbh though if it's just a verbal agreement that's happened today then it's not worth the paper it's written on. Max has his own interests at heart and noone else's.
You learn something new every day. Apparently there's a mechanic at Force India called Andy McLaren...
can ya ping me if they get to f1, pls?
sure.
f1 now.
bbc f1, to be exact.
you're kidding!
:)
i'm not! they just dissed EJ!!
am just gonna have to listen.
Go MWM. I will listen later
MWM??
Cant they diss Des lino instead?
Midweek Motorsport at radiolemans.com.
Live podcast. Tons of fun. :D
www.radiolemans.com and click on listen live
I get silence?
I can't listen to it like that, I need to open it using Media Player
Someone from sidepodcast ;)
Alianora La Canta! {Comment #639}
Interesting idea, if I was wealthy enough to stay alive and commute to Paris while doing the job (I once calculated the annual commuter fee from my house to Place de la Concorde needed to do the job properly, alone, at just over £30000 per year).
I can't listen now though, I'm listening to something actually important for once!!
you can listen with vlc here:
http://tx.sharp-stream.com/tune.php?c=radioshowltd&.waxr
Awww. You can listen to MWM later.
The man has a point – is F1 too complicated for the average punter now? {Comment #117}
At a certain level, no. At another level, it always has been.
The trick is to get the compromise point right to allow as many people as possible to access as much of F1 as they want and are capable of understanding given the other pressures on their time and attention.
I am going to watch the BBC moon thing at 9pm followed by yet another James May space program. hammond must be sick that May is doing all the cool stuff.
Whoo it works!
I spent years complaining that all the coverage was aimed at people who know nothing. No other sport is covered on the basis that people don't understand it.
hats off to... jon, i think, for finding that one.
The last time i took it off i had to google it to find it :D
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76500
Howett is happy with result. Looks like FOTA are good with it, then.
Speed limits were introduced much earlier - the man with the red flag era.
LPG reports that they have moved the alarm sensors to more sensible places and that the jobsworth security guard wasn't there today. She says it wasn't nearly as much fun without all the lovely Sidepodcast people there.
Nooo not security man. I bet he exploded in anger.
The Gatso was definitely invented to measure the speed of a racing car (if rally cars count).
Seeing the thing about the Red Bull video reminds me, there is an application for Red Bull called "Red Bull GP" it's a free application which has videos, pictures, information about this years car and previous years cars and what seems to be a twitter like thing. Wasn't sure if it has been mentioned but I know we all like F1 realted applications ;)
Agreed. I suggest you take a trip to a camera shop and put the cameras into your hands to see which one you prefer. I ended up buying a Nikon because of the sound it made when you pressed the shutter (plus the Canon equivalent had a rubbish lens in comparison).
Yes but he didn't have a speedometer
Did Hindy just compare NASCAR to Le Mans?!
There's a Big Picture of the day showing the Renaults on a public road. OK it was closed. Also, Monaco is racing on a public road. Does that count?
They took them out in dubai a few months ago
vettel picked up his bandini award by driving his old str on public raods.
Spot the difference http://i39.tinypic.com/205cb49.jpg
we looking for 5, right?
I have 5.
apparently .. I only have 1 :(
but I'm not gonna cheat
me too
Vista rocks doesn't it. Great chance of winning tonight I reckon
Just writing up the Sunday part of my fan report. They asked for a summary of the weekend and I've now just moved onto page 7. Erm...
When I send it, I'm just gonna say that this is what I've written and they can chop and change it if need be. Overall, I'm happy with what I've done. :)
one was extra sneaky though.
As I'm not doing the quiz, does anyone want to buy my answers?
I am talking about team just running their car on to an open public road
Wrong quote again. That was in reply to Andy's comment
Any chance we can get the unabridged version in case they chop it up?
Of course!
YAY! :D
me, have I mentioned already how much I heart the new filter? :)
What are you using it for?
There's literally 3 large paragraphs all dedicated to the Renault garage tour.
we can't get enough compliments ;)
have you already found cool and innovative ways of using it, that we never would've thought up?
for example just now - finding out what is supposed to be chopped. I seem to have a reading problem, I constantly miss comments.
I miss comments all the time. I think at times they come in so fast and at others I skip comments to follow one story and miss some of the comments on other subjects.
If I were them, I wouldn’t drop my conditions without something in writing from Max first {Comment #944}
That wouldn't reassure me either. He's un-resigned after initiating a formal FIA re-election, including an in-writing assurance he would resign, back in 2004.
I also want to know whether the FOTA press release tomorrow will back up the FIA's story, be a long version of "That was total nonsense" or a balance between the two extremes.
If you find the right keyword it is absolutely perfect for following a 'conversation-string'.
*whispers* I gave up on following livecommenting of race sessions, the comments just come to fast and I'm too lazy for the new lclt
i said compliments!
;)
♥ movable boxes
better :)
:D
me too, I stopped looking in during races because of that
Kathi, have you volunteered for the all female sidepodpanel? We don't get to hear you often enough.
No chance
God loves a trier :)
I will take that as a maybe which I am sure can become a yes.
Grassing: Mr Garros said something...
Kathi != Max though.
Uh oh.
I'm playing the host, he is a Klien fan
I came 5th! there is a steady curve emerging...
Surprising for someone who didn't watch much racing until quite recently!
Oh Yippie i have a new tv channel! :D
...Showing nascar?
:D What a defense...
Its like a midweek magazine show. F1 needs something like this...
Congratulations RG
RG won the quiz :D
Oh dear its convincing me I like NASCAR road races....
I hate to tear you all away and talk about F1..
Max is leaving? FOTA-FIA deal has been agreed?
Didn't see that coming
TURN IT OFFTURN IT OFFTURN IT OFFTURN IT OFFTURN IT OFFTURN IT OFFTURN IT OFFTURN IT OFFTURN IT OFF
Well done RG. Fastest trigger finger around
So basically what the teams settled for is Max promising to stand down? Even if he does, what happened to all the other issues they stumbled over?
Also I'd like to remind you of our current batracer game, we're still quite low on entrants with only 5 having signed up so far.
If you're interested, yes YOU, YOU know you are, you can find all the necessary info for signing up here:
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Sidepodcast+F1+2007+Championship
Step away from the NASCAR
hehe, but its a new channel, i cant!
I will believe it when it happens
Well done RG. First quiz in ages and I came last.
What channel?
"GET IN. GET IN. I LOVE YOU ALL, GET IN. GET IN. GET IN.. Oh god get in, I love you god, i love you" .. says RG .. do you think he's happy :D
And that, ladies and gentlemen. Is why vista is supirior to any Apple product
RG probably earned that one :-)
ESPN America, its replaced Setanta
True story
Ah, ESPN America has been on Sky for a while. I think It was just called ESPN. I watched bits of the Montreal Nationwide Series race on it last year, the wet one.
Ab-so-lutely. Am very happy for RG - he's done it!!! :D
I know that is what the stories have said all day. Nothing has been signed and FOTA have a meeting tomorrow. A lot can go wrong yet.
i think the teams have caved way too early.
Well done RG
I only have it on terrestial, but my war with Virgin media is progressing :D
Gut tells me it will happen - maybe with a twist, but it will happen.
You better tell Mr C your story. ;)
ooh Freeview?
Are we sure Max didn't sign anything? Perhaps he did.
Have they? Had they waited any longer, they both would've had to commit to the path they were on. Was that the best thing to do for both parties? Am not so sure.
And to be fair, I think this is the first time we've seen a written statement from the FIA itself saying Max won't run. That said, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
What's supirior?
Superior, no idea on earth how you spell it.
Doesn't Vista have a spellchecker then? :)
wiinnnnner :)
ouch!
Yes but you have to have a cam and a card
The teams threatened to create their own series because :-
There was no Concorde Agreement in place - There still isn't
They were unhappy with the commercial deal - It hasn't changed
Bernie cancelling traditional races - He still can
Governance by the FIA - Max has promised to resign a day after saying he would definitely stand, after saying he was unsure after sayinf he would definitely not stand if he won the vote of confidence.
Nothing has changed. It is the usual smoke and mirrors
Couldn't give a dman, it was quick when it needed to be.
A cam?
Good night all that was fun but I'm so tired (again) .. can't seem to stay awake these days
I had to use Vista the other night. That's all I am going to say.
Thought I read in one of the stories earlier that they are under a revised Concorde now..
It goes in a slot on the side of your digital tv, and you put the card in it.
As Alianora pointed out earlier in 2004 Max resigned. He is still there
night jackie.
And that was just me typing to quickly.
Night Jackie
Night Jackie
I think the teams can bear the first three - remember, they were open to Bernie joining them. Nothing would've changed there, either.
Max was a way bigger issue here than Bernie. Which really makes me believe that LDM would've made Max some sort of document to make sure he doesn't go back on his word this time.
Clive (of F1Insight) also believes that Max is done.
Ahh ok, never heard of that.
I knew about the cards to go into the STBs but didn't even cross my mind what to do with built-in Freeview tellies..
They have agreed one but nothing is signed. Max has a habit of changing documets between agreement and signing
But not under pressure from FOTA - wasn't that an internal FIA-only tussle?
Will be off to bed soon-ish. If I don't comment again, good night. :)
I expect Luca will be trying to persuade the other teams to accept it in the FOTA meeting tomorrow. Unless he was in phone contact last night.
Howett has already voiced his approval. It's as good as approved.
Anyway, stuff needs doing, so I'm going to lurk and read for a bit while I'm doing 'em..
For now still think Max is transfering f1 responsibilities to the f1 senate, which he will then control
I haven't read Clive yet
Max has been against the wall so often. He has resigned before. He has promised to step down. Early in his presidency he made a statement that he would only run for two terms because it was wrong to be in power for longer and there was a rule that he could only have two terms.
I see nothing in the latest statements that is different to anything that has happened before. I expect him to be president at this time next year
Also, with Joe saying Boeri is taking over F1 negotiations, I think that's a big sign that Max has indeed lost power.
Night Journeyer
Please do. I'll read your debate in the morn. ;)
I will believe it when he does not have any FIA position.
Thats short term though... Max plays the long game..
all too welll ;)
If he wants to grab it back from Boeri, it will get very ugly very quickly.
Anyway, really off to bed now. Good night.
I get my favourite american sports show. for the first time in ages... pti.. and it starts off with n*sc*r !
With journeyer here, gnight one and all.
Night journeyer/morning i dont understand!
joe commented that the boeri rumour was incorrect.
link. sorry.
Night Journeyer and RG
I forgot about that.
I just plurged a comment onto joe's blog and submitted it without proof reading. I am an idiot.
he needs a preview button ;)
Just thought - does the FIA/FOTA agreement mean that there will be refuelling in 2010?
I dont think that would help... Is it idiot proof?
what did ya say?
hehe, i misread that and thought you meant they needed to start Australia with enough fuel for every race of the year :D
I dont think it has been clarified yet
Who's on first ;)
:D
i feel wide awake and like i have had enough sleep. It is a strange and unfamiliar sensation
Hehe
Did you stay up for roger?
Active Suspension - first conceptualised for use in F1 by Team Lotus, first ran in a F1 race in 1983 *Mustaschioed whinger at the wheel*. First win was in 1987 at the hands of Ayrton Senna - won a further twice with the system.
Team Lotus initially developed the system on it's own - then after the race in 1983 ran the development in conjunction with Lotus Engineering - this assisted the development as many more test miles could be put onto the software.
I believe the road car test mules were Lotus Excels
*goes to hang his head in nerd shame*
It's OK if you have ever worked in the industry though.
Also I’d like to remind you of our current batracer game, we’re still quite low on entrants with only 5 having signed up so far.
If you’re interested, yes YOU, YOU know you are, you can find all the necessary info for signing up here: {Comment #1035}
Is BATRacer working correctly again? Last time I played it refused to load anything after the log-in screen part-way into the game, and that irritates me.
You might want to get it out of your system now. Better to reduce the chances of CTL chucking you out on the Sidepodmeetup later on this year for interrupting and knowing too much ;)
never worked on active suspension.
Worked on a passive version of active suspension - I know that sounds odd, but it was the computer controlled suspension that was banned. We developed a version of active that worked without the computer.
It was very complicated, very heavy *around a 15kg system - F1 dampers at that time came in at around 5kg for the set of 5* but made our test car go in excess of a second a lap faster.
Did you guys do a wiki thing on that? I am interested, i cant remember if i was worried i was too new
Wow, was it banned?
It's still allowed
Yes we did :)
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/SPC+Meetup+-+Classic+Team+Lotus
We never developed it past that single test system.
A team bought the designs and as far as I know, never used any of it. We were paid a very significant amount of money.
Not bad for a project that we worked on in our spare time. A bit like the Dodge Viper.
I mean Flibster is allowed to post this stuff without feeling ashamed.
Also, with Joe saying Boeri is taking over F1 negotiations, I think that’s a big sign that Max has indeed lost power. {Comment #1081}
That was supposed to have happened in 2008 after Max's little scandal. Six weeks later, Max was acting like nothing had happened.
There have been some hopeful developments today, but this isn't over yet by a long chalk.
Thanks added myself:D
Joe says cosworths probably limited to 20,000 revs next year, sorry if i missed it earlier!
So, still a two tier championship then...
Arse.
Surely they won't allow that, unless they think Cosworth will be so useless.
I will believe it when he does not have any FIA position. {Comment #1084}
Um... ...that could be a long wait. Balestre was a member of the FIA Senate from the moment Max won his second election in 1992 (and thus passed his self-imposed probation) until he died. It's a tradition in the FIA to give all ex-Presidents such a position.
The good news is that the nature of the FIA Senate, which tends to cloak everyone except the President in anonymity, means that Max probably won't have anywhere near as much power from the position as we may fear.
It wont be, idoubt they will have the reliability or the power output of teams that have been running them much longer
It probably won't happen again so don't worry about it
That's a bit personal
Link to it http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21602.html
eek!
They'll probably also ditch the 3 race rule for them as well.
I'd rather take the extra 200bhp or so and run the risk of a blowup.
I am sure there were some active Esprits
As would most teams. It won't last. The existing teams will not allow one of these newbies to have a significant power advantage.
Early on there was a couple, it moved to the Excel and these did most of test mileage.
Joe says cosworths probably limited to 20,000 revs next year, sorry if i missed it earlier! {Comment #1118}
That would be against the regulations as currently written. I can only assume that if they are permitted by a subsequent regulation change, they'll be the straight 2006 units and no modifications at all will be made to them for any reason, except to plug in anything the standard ECU needs.
Advance footage of tomorrows fota meeting?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw9yEuwohkk
At least that way there is the chance of the occasional fluke result
Force India have a couple of avi files uploaded
BBC F1 Pitstop Feature - behind the scenes
BBC F1 Pitstop Feature
Well those links are broked...
Hmmm.
Well those links are broked…
Hmmm. {Comment #1135}
Try taking out the feedproxy bit and just starting with the http://www.forceindia.com bit of the address.
No reponse from the site.
They need a better server and connection. ;)
you killed them.
Nerd power!
*collapses in heap on the floor after doing techie stuff for a rock concert for over 12 hours straight*
*reaches for laptop*
hi.
reaches over and picks up pint.
hi.
Hey, welcome to your R&R
gr.. :P
how are you this evening mr c?
* Follows Mr C's example*
mmm. very, very good thank you.
a non dramatic day, and nothings happened in f1. what more could i ask?
Hi Lou
my ears are ringing slightly/ i have a horrible headache from standing behind two big speakers doing the smoke machine for the 2 hour concert. awful thing is i couldn't wear ear plugs (i have bought some specially) but we had to wear professional radio packs so we could communicate...
on the plus side the last two days have been incredible tech wise :D and i'm very happy.
i got a vague text from lukeh about fota calling off the break away?.. anyone care to summarise what happened today for me?
damn. do ya not have any foam ear phones?
of course.
nothing.
not that have mics attached and that were compatible with the radio system...
shoot. hope the tinnitus goes away soon.
haha so really nothing happened? *really really doesn't want to open feed reader now...*
As joe put it...
Max, Bernie and Luca went into a room, Bernie and Luca came out with jobs!
it's not too bad, just a slight ringing, the headache is much worse. i'm sure it will be okay after sleep though... i hope.
ahhh now that i like :D thanks.
good stuff.
Custom earphones and a throat mike.
Thats my solution.
Aside from that breakaway off, F1 commission back, FOTA separated deals with FOM and FIA, and they now deal with the senate instead of the president.
13 team list of f1 teams released for next season!
that's a good idea, however we were very lucky to get the radio packs we were using today (almost £300 each) and they worked perfectly. If it wasn't just the one evening, and if some of the kit wasn't on lone then we would have done something else about it. :)
My throat mikes came from FleaBay - cost £30 or something like that for an assorted box of them. Found 3 the same, found the one that worked best and use that with the other two for spares. Flogged the rest back on the bay.
I think in the end they only cost £5 or soemthing like that.
Sorry, missed your question there! It works absolutely fine for me :)
I am doing well today. I have a comment on Joe's blog that has been waiting for moderation for hours and one on James Allen's still in moderation despite 20 following comments being cleared.
I think official journalists don't like me
I had one in James Allens moderation for about 6 hours,
I then posted on joes and didn't read it... so he will now think i am an idiot.
i'm sure he won't think that?
The. article. is. finally. finished.
*collapses*
awww. no-one said winning competitions would be easy ;)
Well i am still assuming he is one of the devoted readers of my blog so maybe there is hope :D
did you link to your blog when you commented?
Just catching up on the debrief from sunday (I am slow, but once i have done that i can read GP+ ;) )
Are the photos up (of lee!)
And which show was Mrs C on radio tees?
I posted this on Joe's. To me it doesn't seem exactly controversial
I have to disagree with you Joe. The teams have promises but absolutely nothing concrete that I can see. There is no new commercial deal. There is no signed Concorde Agreement. There have been no limits placed on Bernie’s ability to manipulate the calendar to benefit CVC while penalising teams, sponsors and fans by cancelling traditional races and racing in front of empty grandstands in countries with no interest in the sport and no market for sponsors.
They have a promise from Max that he will stand down but he already made that same promise at the tim of the vote of confidence and reneged on that.
I have not caught up on all the news yet so there may be something I haven’t seen but as far as I can see the teams have gained nothing tangible.
My comment on James's blog is a bit more controversial.
I would happily place a bet now that Mosely will not step down. he will manufacture a crisis that needs his attention or so many people will ask him to stand that he will be compelled to. Usual bull.
I really can’t see why FOTA has agreed to this deal. There is no new financial agreement. There is no signed Concorde Agreement. There is nothing new. Max has agreed to step down within 24 hours of saying he will definitely stand. Before that he said he was unsure and before his vote of confidence he said if the vote went his way he definitley would not seek re-election. Givin that he rapidly changed his mind after that promise why should anyone believe him this time?
His argument at the vote of confidence was that he was the only person who could re-negotiate the commercial rights deal. Which was dis-ingenuous as he disqualified himself from the original negotiation on the grounds of conflict of interest. I notice that since the vote of confidence he has made no attempt whatever to re-negotiate the commercial rights deal and no-one is holding him to account for it.
I cannot believe the teams have bough this deal. No doubt we can re-live the same farce in 2012 or sooner if the dreadful Mosely decides he has to remain in power.
Got that right! It's taken 3 days and 8 whole pages, but it's all done. Have sent it to Tim so he's got it in time form tomorrow. Should be on the site very soon! As I said, they can chop and change it if need be. All I know is it's all true and real and what I wanted to write. :)
Right, erm, bed I think after all that.
Wordpress leaves me loged in, so yes!
James Allen removed the link though :(
saturday, before qually. but it's not on iplayer :(
we have some of lee, but the pesky jake keeps getting in shot. later this week methinks.
No reponse from the site.
They need a better server and connection {Comment #1137}
What they need is a site like they had last year!
mentioning james allen probably did it.
oh wait. they're two separate comments?
you have photos of Jake? yay! :D
eh? he doesn't normally?
night sir.
:D
brain fade. i can't see why they would be moderated either.
Perhaps he is being more careful now he works for the FIA?
Either that, or he wants to mine my blog for ideas :D
!
i find it a bit odd, when no-one else's appears to be removed :(
what? Jake is cool... i'd prefer photos of Jake to Lee :P or am has my tiredness led me to misread the comment?
Night... Writing to deadline is hard! at least you dont have a crowd of people criticising every word as it his the document!
i wanted pics of lee.
:cry:
I'll try again if he writes something i want to comment on, then we can see how deep the conspiracy goes!
good stuff.
Did you speak to her?
Provided he wasn't a gibbering, dribbling wreck when he saw her ;)
maybe she'll be at goodw...oh... :(
not especially interested in what she has to say :)
If not i can have a new tag line:
The blog James Allen doesn't want you to read...
hahah. you know, i haven't seen vb-h this year either. i bet she'll be driving.
hehehe
YES!
I'd delete that before...you know.... ;)
oops.
:D
You cant possibly compare them!
aha if i end up going to goodwood this year i'm planning on getting as many pics as i can of famous people, so i'll look out for her
i didn't. was just thinking of people who might be at goodwood.
you like the naughty step then? :P
Hehe, If James Allen is....
I saw him in the paddock on Saturday talking to a couple of people.
That was a comment on James's site. I didn't mention him on Joe's site
Yeah that
Eddie Irvine will be there.. I saw him in an airport bar once :D
So will Patrese.. does anyone remember which race it was he somersaulted a williams?
I don't think Lou cares who you wanted pics of. She prefers Jake regardless whether or not Des Lynam thinks he could learn from EJ
Portugal 1992. It was more of a half-somersault.
hahaha
i can't keep my eyes open any longer, night all x
Thanks
What I loved about it was that after he'd hit Berger, his skidded along the pit wall and when it stopped he just flicked his head and got out! :D
Night Lou
night lou.
any word on how the world champ wll be crowned? Back to points, or still the stupid "most wins" idea?
Night Lou
Points. Wins are dead as are medals
Amy i caught in an apology loop
No. We all want Paul di Resta to get the McLaren drive. He kicked Vettel's butt when they were team mates and deserves a break.
I've yet to witness PdR's skills but would like to
Timo won't cut it, MacLaren need someone to challenge Lewis for wins and push the pair (and team) forward
Who that is, I don't don't know. I'd like to see Kubica there
[Sorry Amy & RG]
No. He just talks a lot of sense
Kubica is not an option. His driving style is the polar opposite of Lewis's. Putting them in the same team would lead to one of them feeling very neglected
I wondered that but didn't know. Aside from di Resta, who is established and has an oversteer preference?
Kimi. They should be able to cope with comeone who prefers neutral or very slight oversteer but Kubica, Alonso and Massa are all extreme understeerers. I am amazed that McLaren managed to give Hamilton and Alonso a car they could both drive in 2007.
I think he was Apple baiting personally
Wish he would but cannot see Kimi returning
[or staying in F1 beyond his Scuderia contract]
Would love to be proved wrong though, have always rated him very highly since Sauber
:D
Netcast?
now that is genius!
amazing. I love it
I pretended I was Calacanis and stole it from Leo
Awesome! for sale too...
:D :P ;)
SHam Christine doesn't like buying urls
Shame
It is?! *gets out credit card*
I was going to ask if unofficial Christine was affiliated with sham Christine :p
That's outgeeked me, for which I'm not sure if I should be happy or just disappointed in myself
I'm surprised Mr C got that one, he "doesn't listen to podcasts"
Ouch
i watch twit live on re-runs. but christine blogged about calcanis.
http://smarterthanyouraverage.com/2009/05/02/lets-get-it-started/
I am prepared to believe the podcast stuf but not that you read Christine's blog posts
Live on re-runs? Now i'm totally confused.
:D
I may be in the minority here but I really need to say...
I really hate clicking non-drop.io links from Desktop Doohickey
It sensed the hatred for a second there and freaked out on me, I shall explain in a sec
?
Not sure if this was post-ironic or still hanging aound since that tour but spotted this in a Hanoi store and couldn't resist snapping... [wasn't that long ago]
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/backstreet-fashion-jpg
[Vietnamese maths may not hold up to scrutiny