Another late daily post, but this time we've got an excuse. The Sidepodparty was a raging success last night, or at least I hope it was. From our point of view, we got the show recorded, opened some presents and danced a conga dressed as a panda. What more could you ask for? Watch the replay here and the finished Sidepoddie Awards show will be out in the next few days. Elsewhere, in the world of Formula 1:

  • Vettel has admitted he's concerned about the safety of KERS. With another voice added to the weight of dissent in the paddock, plus the fact that no one is ready to take it racing - will we actually see KERS appear in 2009?
  • Dave Richards has stepped up his campaign to purchase Honda by flying out for meetings in the Middle East. Richards credentials for owning the team are still up for great debate in the comments, so add your thoughts if you've got an opinion.
  • That's about it for news, it is Christmas after all. If you were buying presents for any of the guys in the paddock, who would you buy for and what would you get them?

If you've finished work/school/other for the holidays and are wondering what you're going to do for the break, don't panic. Sidepodcast will still be here. We've got plenty of shows coming up, and the Daily posts will keep on appearing at midnight indeterminate times each day. We'll get you through the festive season.

522 responses

  • Dank22/12/2008 at 09:41

    First post!

    Toyota loses £1.1bn in 2008 and Hyundai Kia interested in buying Honda?

    What time did the Sidepodparty finish? Got a hangover by any chance?!

  • Jon Waldock22/12/2008 at 09:41

    I found this yesterday, it makes me laugh every time...

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oE5NKizHx60&feature=channel

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 10:13

    What time did the Sidepodparty finish? Got a hangover by any chance?!

    No hangover for me. Think Mr C is sleeping it off.

  • Alianora La Canta22/12/2008 at 10:25

    Useless information warning:

    Eddie Jordan is apparently holidaying in Antigua this Christmas. Had it not been for Richard Branson's daughter needing to use her medical skills to help another passenger on the way, I would never have found out...

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 11:01

    Eddie Jordan is apparently holidaying in Antigua this Christmas. Had it not been for Richard Branson’s daughter needing to use her medical skills to help another passenger on the way, I would never have found out…

    25°C in Antigua. Nice :)

  • Scott in Italy (now with added Australianisms)22/12/2008 at 11:20

    Eddie Jordan is apparently holidaying in Antigua this Christmas. Had it not been for Richard Branson’s daughter needing to use her medical skills to help another passenger on the way, I would never have found out…

    I'm pretty sure she was working at the hospital near my work a year or so ago in Australia - I think then (maybe incorrectly) she was a nurse. Regardless, great effort.

    This roundabout way of finding out about famous passengers reminds me of a time when a plane was (almost) hijacked in 2000 and someone had a photo of people holding down the hijacker and you could see musician Bryan Ferry looking quite shocked as one of the passengers. Read more here or here.

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 11:28

    Just to make you feel Christmassy:

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)22/12/2008 at 12:18

    Merry Christmas Everybody, and thanks for all the fun in Sidepodland ;-)

    Here's to a 'Five Pints of Awesome' 2009 :-D

  • me22/12/2008 at 12:44

    morning.

  • Flibster22/12/2008 at 12:45

    It lives!

  • me22/12/2008 at 12:46

    It lives!

    ugh.

  • Dom22/12/2008 at 12:46

    morning.

    You sure about that? :P

  • me22/12/2008 at 12:48

    You sure about that?

    afternoon.

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 12:50

    afternoon.

    Wow. Lou really is mystic. In the other thread, she guessed your first comment as 12:50. Six minutes out.

  • me22/12/2008 at 12:52

    Wow. Lou really is mystic. In the other thread, she guessed your first comment as 12:50. Six minutes out.

    if i go back to bed. will that ruin anything?

  • me22/12/2008 at 12:53

    the delightful ms. williams:

    again, having a shocking day with the camera. i think because the conference center is uber-dark, the iso-thingy settings couldn't cope so well. the place is very heavily mood lit.

    would have been fine in the summer, but it was already dark when we arrived :(

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 12:53

    if i go back to bed. will that ruin anything?

    Nope. The first comment has been made, you're free to sleep the rest of the day :)

  • me22/12/2008 at 12:54

    Nope. The first comment has been made, you’re free to sleep the rest of the day

    may just do that.

  • Journeyer22/12/2008 at 13:00

    Claire seems to have her dad's teeth... and maybe his eyes too? Can't quite tell from the pic.

    No work today, Mr and Mrs C?

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 13:05

    No work today, Mr and Mrs C?

    I do. Sounds like Mr C isn't capable of work right now!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)22/12/2008 at 13:09

    me said:

    the delightful ms. williams:

    again, having a shocking day with the camera. i think because the conference center is uber-dark, the iso-thingy settings couldn’t cope so well. the place is very heavily mood lit.

    would have been fine in the summer, but it was already dark when we arrived :(

    Cheers :-)

    Well, she's not as nice as Lee Mckenzie ;-)

  • me22/12/2008 at 13:14

    Well, she’s not as nice as Lee Mckenzie

    you haven't seen her wearing nothing but a flag though?

  • me22/12/2008 at 13:15

    I do. Sounds like Mr C isn’t capable of work right now!

    it'll keep.

  • me22/12/2008 at 13:16

    for breakfast. i appear to have a choice of:

    - iced mince pies

    - christmas cake

  • me22/12/2008 at 13:16

    you haven’t seen her wearing nothing but a flag though?

    that doesn't sound right. i'd like to take that comment back :(

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 13:21

    that doesn’t sound right. i’d like to take that comment back

    I think you better had.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)22/12/2008 at 13:28

    Christine said:

    that doesn’t sound right. i’d like to take that comment back

    I think you better had.

    I was just wondering the same. I hope the couch is comfortable, Mr. C! :-D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)22/12/2008 at 13:52

    By the way, during the Madness of last night's "12 Days of F1 Christmas" my wife had just gone to bed and because I had the headset on all she could hear was my bad singing :-D

    Cue classic quote from wifey this morning:

    "Last night, why were you singing about 5 Massive spins?"

    My sides still hurt from laughing about it ;-)

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 14:00

    My sides still hurt from laughing about it

    Will you be playing her the finished article when it's done?

  • Dirty Scarab22/12/2008 at 14:02

    Sorry I missed your cyber-party thingamabob. Sounds like a good time was had by all.

    In other news (and I don't know if this has already been mentioned) but apparently some crazy Mexican called Carlos Slim gave the game away and popped by Brackley last week. He's the second richest man in the world and his flashy helicopter was so big it couldn't fit on the Honda helipad, so they had to clear the car park so he could land there...

    Sounds like the ideal man to save Honda :)

  • me22/12/2008 at 14:03

    his flashy helicopter was so big it couldn’t fit on the Honda helipad, so they had to clear the car park so he could land there…

    what the heck was he flying?

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 14:04

    Have just discovered that the Williams conference centre does weddings:

    http://www.williamsf1conferences.com/weddings.html

    Now I'm annoyed we went on a stupid boat.

  • me22/12/2008 at 14:04

    Have just discovered that the Williams conference centre does weddings:

    no.freaking.way!

  • me22/12/2008 at 14:05

    Have just discovered that the Williams conference centre does weddings:

    Additional options can be booked and added to your wedding package:

    - Williams F1 Simulator

  • Dirty Scarab22/12/2008 at 14:06

    what the heck was he flying?

    I dunno, but he's got 60 Billion in the bank so it was probably something overly flash.

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 14:06

    - Williams F1 Simulator

    I KNOW!

  • me22/12/2008 at 14:07

    I dunno, but he’s got 60 Billion in the bank so it was probably something overly flash.

    chinook?

  • Dirty Scarab22/12/2008 at 14:07

    Additional options can be booked and added to your wedding package:

    - Williams F1 Simulator

    Hmm... I feel a renewal of vows coming on...

    On second thoughts, my wife probably wouldn't appreciate that.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)22/12/2008 at 14:08

    me said:

    [Carlos Slim's] flashy helicopter was so big it couldn’t fit on the Honda helipad, so they had to clear the car park so he could land there…

    what the heck was he flying?

    A Chinook or a Mil-26 probably ;-)

  • Dirty Scarab22/12/2008 at 14:09

    chinook?

    Yeah, I'd say that's too big for the average modest helipad.

  • Dirty Scarab22/12/2008 at 14:14

    So am I right in thinking that Slim, Richards and Mallya are the three main contenders?

    "Slim, Richards and Mallya" - Sounds like a dodgy ambulance chaser law firm.

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 14:22

    Hmm… I feel a renewal of vows coming on…On second thoughts, my wife probably wouldn’t appreciate that.

    Is it too early to renew one's vows after eight months?

  • me22/12/2008 at 14:22

    Is it too early to renew one’s vows after eight months?

    nooooo.

  • me22/12/2008 at 14:24

    joe's had a second stab at an article he wrote a couple of weeks back. no new information so far as i can tell, but i guess he's had a chance to digest everything he learned at the monaco seminar:

    http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft21058.html

    call me a cynic but it still seems like absolute rubbish to me.

  • Dirty Scarab22/12/2008 at 14:28

    Is it too early to renew one’s vows after eight months?

    Possibly. Although you could have a massive argument and spit up for a few months and then get back together again. That would warrant a renewal, I reckon...

    I've been married for 6yrs so I think I'm eligible. Yay! Now to think of a cunning plan to get my wife to agree on it...

    I suppose I could feign a fatal illness and make it my deathbed wish... (and then make a miraculous recovery afterward).

    Oh the deviousness...

  • Alex Andronov22/12/2008 at 15:10

    Possibly. Although you could have a massive argument and spit up for a few months and then get back together again. That would warrant a renewal, I reckon…

    I reckon that's why Me was mentioning the naked except for a flag Lee MacKenzie earlier!

  • Alex Andronov22/12/2008 at 15:13

    Katherine and I are just begining to plan our wedding at the moment...

    ...I wonder ;)

  • me22/12/2008 at 15:22

    Katherine and I are just begining to plan our wedding at the moment…

    thinking about it, we don't need to get married at the conference centre. we just need someone to get married there and invite us along...

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 15:32

    Just to make you feel Christmassy:

    Everyone at BMW loves christmas :D we're the funnest team on the grid.

    for breakfast. i appear to have a choice of:

    You lucky son of a gun, it was either toast or a sausage sandwich for me.

    Actually, the sausage snadwich was lovely

    And by the way, I have not just got up, as a matter of fact I got up at 7 in the bloomin morning. WHY IS HOLIDAYS LIKE THAT YOU EVIL AND SINISTER PEOPLE. Why can't I just have a nice little lie in.

    And some back update, feels a lot better after a night sleep, so you may have a sigh of relief.

    And (I really should think of another way to start a sentance) sorry for cutting the call early last night, the battery was about to go again, dodgy bloomin charger.

  • Dank22/12/2008 at 16:04

    Red Bull's Christian Horner discusses 2009 on Crash.net. Not really anything we didn't already know.

    But he er, does eerr, errrs a lot.

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:08

    Eddie Jordan is apparently holidaying in Antigua this Christmas. Had it not been for Richard Branson’s daughter needing to use her medical skills to help another passenger on the way, I would never have found out…

    You know you are an F1 fan when you first thought on hearing that EJ phoned Richard Branson to discuss his daughter daving a plane passenger's life is EJ is putting a deal together and finding an exuse to speak to Branson.

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:10

    for breakfast. i appear to have a choice of:

    - iced mince pies - christmas cake

    No melted furry biscuits?

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:11

    “Last night, why were you singing about 5 Massive spins?”

    :D

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:12

    In other news (and I don’t know if this has already been mentioned) but apparently some crazy Mexican called Carlos Slim gave the game away and popped by Brackley last week. He’s the second richest man in the world and his flashy helicopter was so big it couldn’t fit on the Honda helipad, so they had to clear the car park so he could land there…

    He is the reason Piquet has a drive at Renault. He put some money into the team and insisted on a South American driver.

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:13

    what the heck was he flying?

    Maybe it was one of those things you put on the RSPCR F1 wiki

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:13

    Now I’m annoyed we went on a stupid boat.

    You could do it all again

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:15

    Additional options can be booked and added to your wedding package:

    - Williams F1 Simulator

    I have never heard anyone have an F1 simulator at their wedding. I would have thought it would break things up a bit if everyone just stoof in the queue for a shot. That could kill the atmosphere a little especially once it got competitive,

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:17

    I found the RSPCR F1 helicopter

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-22_Osprey

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:18

    Is it too early to renew one’s vows after eight months?

    You could do it as an anniversary present to yourself

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:23

    call me a cynic but it still seems like absolute rubbish to me.

    I can't believe there qre 150 mea rich people who want to live next to Donington. I doubt there are 15 let alone 150.

    I stick by my original opinion. There will not be a GP at Donington.

  • me22/12/2008 at 16:28

    I found the RSPCR F1 helicopter

    :D

    that must be it.

  • me22/12/2008 at 16:28

    No melted furry biscuits?

    i ate them all.

  • me22/12/2008 at 16:29

    But he er, does eerr, errrs a lot.

    drink!

  • me22/12/2008 at 16:31

    I can’t believe there qre 150 mea rich people who want to live next to Donington. I doubt there are 15 let alone 150.

    i can understand it working in america, but here, it's such a short distance to the nurburgring. why chose donny?

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 16:36

    his flashy helicopter was so big it couldn’t fit on the Honda helipad, so they had to clear the car park so he could land there…

    what the heck was he flying?

    I think that he has a domestic version of one of the uber-sized US military models... I have a catalogue I edited/Layed out for the parts somewhere A501 I believe (the parts catalogue, not the helicopter. The parts are in one of the MoD spec huge helicopters as well....

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 16:50

    Every profile I can find for him says he does not own a plane or a helicopter. His company Telmex owns a 6 seater Cessna. A bit odd for someone worth $60+ billion

  • Flibster22/12/2008 at 17:07

    Steven Roy: 22/12/2008 at 16:23

    call me a cynic but it still seems like absolute rubbish to me.

    I can’t believe there qre 150 mea rich people who want to live next to Donington. I doubt there are 15 let alone 150.

    I stick by my original opinion. There will not be a GP at Donington.

    I'm with you on this one. If they haven't got the money together now they never will - they expect planning permission to be granted next month so building can start then.

    Not going to happen.

  • F1Wolf22/12/2008 at 17:10

    talking about flying machines - will Button still go ahead with that HondaJets purchase now that he no longer will race Honda cars ?

  • Jordan Allen ()22/12/2008 at 17:44

    Steven Roy said:

    In other news (and I don’t know if this has already been mentioned) but apparently some crazy Mexican called Carlos Slim gave the game away and popped by Brackley last week. He’s the second richest man in the world and his flashy helicopter was so big it couldn’t fit on the Honda helipad, so they had to clear the car park so he could land there…

    He is the reason Piquet has a drive at Renault. He put some money into the team and insisted on a South American driver.

    Excellent. He buys out Honda on the condiction that PK jr is the lead driver, or better than that, Barrichello is the lead driver and PK jr is the second driver....

  • Jordan Allen ()22/12/2008 at 17:56

    Steven Roy said:

    I found the RSPCR F1 helicopter

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-22_Osprey

    I know we had this discussion before and I have bids for the Captain's seat, but have we found a jock with an "eggbeater" rating that can bump me down to co-pilot status, yet?

    So is the idea to use these birds as the teams transoportors to the races?

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 18:10

    I know we had this discussion before and I have bids for the Captain’s seat, but have we found a jock with an “eggbeater” rating that can bump me down to co-pilot status, yet?

    I am sure Lou said she had flown something.

    So is the idea to use these birds as the teams transoportors to the races?

    I think they were for flying pandas

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 18:36

    Thing is, as Felix Dennis says, peeps like this *never* own things like helicopters/planes/boats...they hire them. If you are Dennis you extend this to your female company as well (rofl)...

    If you own with them, you are stuck with the bills, and there is no investment potential anyway. If you hire them you can give them back and get some more that are shiny and new...

  • me22/12/2008 at 19:51

    Thing is, as Felix Dennis says, peeps like this *never* own things like helicopters/planes/boats…they hire them. If you are Dennis you extend this to your female company as well (rofl)…

    makes sense. but bernie has his own jet?

  • Journeyer22/12/2008 at 20:27

    makes sense. but bernie has his own jet?

    And you're surprised because...?

    He usually doesn't ride commercial. And when he does, it's usually in style. Matter of fact, he was one of the passengers on the last-ever Concorde flight.

  • lou22/12/2008 at 21:00

    Wow. Lou really is mystic. In the other thread, she guessed your first comment as 12:50. Six minutes out.

    lol ah just 6 mins out. wow i was expecting 'me' to get up later than that. ;)

    I am sure Lou said she had flown something.

    yeah i did. about 5 years ago i went to a friend's 13th birthday party, and we had a flying lesson. We each had a chance (there were only 3 of us) to fly a small plane (a bit like the plane James flew for that top gear race once).

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 21:02

    yeah i did. about 5 years ago i went to a friend’s 13th birthday party, and we had a flying lesson. We each had a chance (there were only 3 of us) to fly a small plane (a bit like the plane James flew for that top gear race once).

    At the age of 13?

  • lou22/12/2008 at 21:07

    At the age of 13?

    yep. there was an instructor there ;)

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 21:10

    yep. there was an instructor there

    Well obviously, but 13 still seems young.

  • lou22/12/2008 at 21:12

    Well obviously, but 13 still seems young.

    lol yeah, it's a little tradition in her family though ;) every 13th birthday they go flying :)

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 21:13

    Bad news for me. The ITV repeat of the season is on ITV4 next sunday at 5:30 pm and on ITV1 tues 30th 11pm

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 21:13

    lol yeah, it’s a little tradition in her family though every 13th birthday they go flying

    Oh well, sounded like fun

  • Dom22/12/2008 at 21:18

    every 13th birthday they go flying

    How many 13th birthdays does she have?

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 21:22

    lol yeah, it’s a little tradition in her family though every 13th birthday they go flying

    13, 26, 39, 52 etc

  • lou22/12/2008 at 21:24

    How many 13th birthdays does she have?

    just the one... sorry, i meant like every time someone in their family turns 13.

  • me22/12/2008 at 21:28

    sidepodspace pics:

    http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/round_trip_with_endeavour.html

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 21:29

    Mr C just said Max, and we both shouted "Drink!"

    It's gonna be a long Christmas.

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 21:29

    It’s gonna be a long Christmas.

    long may not be the word for it...

  • lou22/12/2008 at 21:30

    Mr C just said Max, and we both shouted “Drink!”

    hehe XD

    blockquote>It’s gonna be a long Christmas.

    long, but funny :P

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 21:35

    sidepodspace pics:

    What a co-incidence.

    Sidepodspace Update

    Tonight at midnight UK time there is a spacewalk scheduled to start at the ISS. They are installing and retrieving scientific experiments and they will measure the the electromagnetic potential around the Russian part of the station as this is thought to contribute to the problems firing the separation bolts to release the Soyuz. As a result the last two crews which have returned to earth via Soyuz have had much steeper descents than planned.

    I had no idea until a couple of minutes ago that there was a spacewalk.

  • Journeyer22/12/2008 at 21:36

    Tonight at midnight UK time there is a spacewalk scheduled to start at the ISS. They are installing and retrieving scientific experiments and they will measure the the electromagnetic potential around the Russian part of the station as this is thought to contribute to the problems firing the separation bolts to release the Soyuz. As a result the last two crews which have returned to earth via Soyuz have had much steeper descents than planned.

    electromagnetic potential? wow. hmmm. sounds very intriguing indeed. i wonder how they measure that?

    anyhoo, something to live comment on! haha!

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 21:50

    sidepodspace pics:

    Every set of pics I have ever seen form that site have been outstanding. I really must check it regularly. I came across the overhead of the shuttle/747 a few days ago.

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 21:50

    electromagnetic potential? wow. hmmm. sounds very intriguing indeed. i wonder how they measure that?

    I assume they mean voltage

  • me22/12/2008 at 21:51

    Every set of pics I have ever seen form that site have been outstanding. I really must check it regularly. I came across the overhead of the shuttle/747 a few days ago.

    i think alex found it when they did a feature on the singapore gp this year. have followed it since.

  • Christine22/12/2008 at 21:52

    Every set of pics I have ever seen form that site have been outstanding. I really must check it regularly. I came across the overhead of the shuttle/747 a few days ago.

    Definitely check out the Year in 2008 set.

    http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/the_year_2008_in_photographs_p.html

    There are three parts to the set and they're outstanding.

  • me22/12/2008 at 21:54

    if you're bored and have 60 seconds, we're working on improving podcast audio quality. friday's and today's f1 minute should sound a little more sparkly and punchy:

    http://www.f1minute.com/2008/12/22/19-dec-08-toyota-forecast-record-loss-for-0809/

    hopefully the debrief will be similar. pls yell if you have any issues.

  • Dan Brunell22/12/2008 at 21:54

    I can't believe I missed the Sidepodparty. Did anyone dance around with a lapshade on their head? Did anyone drink themselves into asking out someone then throwing up into the trash can? Did anyone see a giant pink Pandas?

    Eddie Jordan is apparently holidaying in Antigua this Christmas. Had it not been for Richard Branson’s daughter needing to use her medical skills to help another passenger on the way, I would never have found out…

    Maybe Eddie and Branson should go in together to buy honda. Virgin F1 would be a massively fun and insane team. With Eddie/Brawn bring the car together and Branson bringing capital, sponsors, and business infrastructure. That would be a force of a team.

  • Flibster22/12/2008 at 21:55

    Christine: 22/12/2008 at 21:29

    Mr C just said Max, and we both shouted “Drink!”

    It’s gonna be a long Christmas.

    But on the plus side - if you continue to drink like that, at least you won't remember it. ;)

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 21:58

    Definitely check out the Year in 2008 set.

    Just did. 1, 27, 30 and 40 are incredible

    I am now looking at the Hubble telescope's advent calendar.

    http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/hubble_space_telescope_advent.html

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 21:59

    Maybe Eddie and Branson should go in together to buy honda. Virgin F1 would be a massively fun and insane team. With Eddie/Brawn bring the car together and Branson bringing capital, sponsors, and business infrastructure. That would be a force of a team.

    Years ago when Bernie threatened to take all the races out of Europe Branson called his bluff and said that if he did then he would set up a rival series using the European tracks.

  • Steven Roy22/12/2008 at 22:00

    I can’t believe I missed the Sidepodparty. Did anyone dance around with a lapshade on their head? Did anyone drink themselves into asking out someone then throwing up into the trash can? Did anyone see giant pink Pandas.

    Not pink. No. Definitely not giant pink pandas.

  • me22/12/2008 at 22:01

    Not pink. No. Definitely not giant pink pandas.

    i didn't see anything?

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 22:02

    Just did. 1, 27, 30 and 40 are incredible

    As a football fan, I find 7 impressive.

  • Journeyer22/12/2008 at 22:03

    R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase): 22/12/2008 at 22:02

    Just did. 1, 27, 30 and 40 are incredible

    As a football fan, I find 7 impressive.

    No F1 pics, BTW. And there was only 1 motorsport pic, from MotoGP: Casey Stoner during wet free practice at Philip Island.

  • me22/12/2008 at 22:05

    No F1 pics, BTW. And there was only 1 motorsport pic, from MotoGP: Casey Stoner during wet free practice at Philip Island.

    http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_singapore_grand_prix.html

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 22:12

    I find they do indeed do some absolutley fantastic photos..

    http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_singapore_grand_prix.html

    Its scary to think that was DCs last ever points in F1.

    Amazing, the one of fisi in the air was brilliant

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 22:29

    Amazing, the one of fisi in the air was brilliant

    I love the two tilt-shift pics, #s 11 & 23

  • Dan Brunell22/12/2008 at 22:31

    You know the more I think about it, the more I would love to see Branson in the sport. His parties alone would make it worth it.

    BTW: Giant Pink Pandas would be an awesome band name.

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 22:33

    I just looked at some of those pictures and thought 'how big was the lens that took that?!'

    I think I've been living with AndyT for too long.....

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 22:33

    BTW: Giant Pink Pandas would be an awesome band name.

    And now, coming onto the stage at the Royal Variety Performance, Giiiiiiiant Pink Pandas! Featuring Mr and Mrs C, Alianora, Gavin, the lovely lpg, Andy and Steeeeeven Roy!

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 22:34

    And now, coming onto the stage at the Royal Variety Performance, Giiiiiiiant Pink Pandas! Featuring Mr and Mrs C, Alianora, Gavin, the lovely lpg, Andy and Steeeeeven Roy!

    They'll be signing, the 12 days of f1 christmas

  • lou22/12/2008 at 22:40

    They’ll be signing, the 12 days of f1 christmas</blockquote

    lol i've signed the 12 days of christmas before :) it was fun. I would love to see Christine sign the 12 days of f1 christmas though :) even better, i would love to see Christine and a drunk 'me' dressed as a panda sign the 12 days of f1 christmas :P

    ;)

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 22:42

    Only if I can be on drums!

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 22:43

    Lou, am guessing that's sing not sign

    Unless you're a fan of impaired hearing communication

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 22:44

    Watching QI earlier, the '5 Gooold Rings' is actually trademarked and have to pay royalties if you were to use it.

    5 Massa spins is alright

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 22:45

    Lou, am guessing that’s sing not sign

    Sorry, that should've been R.G. and I've now realised Lou was doing a quote thing

  • lou22/12/2008 at 22:46

    Lou, am guessing that’s sing not sign

    nope it's sign. I was part of a sign language activity at school for a few years :) we also signed we will rock you once. it was very funny :P

  • lou22/12/2008 at 22:47

    Sorry, that should’ve been R.G. and I’ve now realised Lou was doing a quote thing

    yeah sorry, the doohickey does that to me sometimes.

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 22:48

    nope it’s sign. I was part of a sign language activity at school for a few years we also signed we will rock you once. it was very funny

    Sounds fun. The people who sign on late night BBC always make me smile. They seem to be signing quite sarcastically based on their facial expressions :)

  • me22/12/2008 at 22:49

    yeah sorry, the doohickey does that to me sometimes.

    been testing it all day on chrome (well all the day that i've been awake), no issues for me?

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 22:52

    yeah sorry, the doohickey does that to me sometimes.

    Thats why I use the 'Lauda, Coulthard, Liuzzi, Trulli'

  • me22/12/2008 at 22:53

    Thats why I use the ‘Lauda, Coulthard, Liuzzi, Trulli’

    heheh :D

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 22:54

    heheh

    And if you think thats the start of me losing the plot, I've got something I'm planning which will probably make me the madest person on here.

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 22:55

    makes sense. but bernie has his own jet?

    And you’re surprised because…?

    He usually doesn’t ride commercial. And when he does, it’s usually in style. Matter of fact, he was one of the passengers on the last-ever Concorde flight.

    I was on one of those flights too!

  • me22/12/2008 at 22:57

    And if you think thats the start of me losing the plot, I’ve got something I’m planning which will probably make me the madest person on here.

    how is that script going?

  • lou22/12/2008 at 22:57

    been testing it all day on chrome (well all the day that i’ve been awake), no issues for me?

    oh... maybe it's just me then. i make a point of making sure the quote code is correct but it still does it sometimes. never mind.

  • R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase)22/12/2008 at 22:58

    how is that script going?

    Decent, but my new plan has put that to the back of my mind temporarily.

  • lou22/12/2008 at 22:58

    Thats why I use the ‘Lauda, Coulthard, Liuzzi, Trulli’

    lol i might start doing that to reply to posts, but i like the doohickey, cause you can see comments from other threads too which is often useful when it gets to midnight ;)

  • lou22/12/2008 at 22:59

    And if you think thats the start of me losing the plot, I’ve got something I’m planning which will probably make me the madest person on here.

    lol :) i look forward to finding out what it is :D

  • lou22/12/2008 at 22:59

    Decent, but my new plan has put that to the back of my mind temporarily.

    you could release it to us scene by scene? ;)

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:00

    oh… maybe it’s just me then. i make a point of making sure the quote code is correct but it still does it sometimes. never mind.

    very odd. have you got the latest chrome?

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:00

    I was on one of those flights too!

    I wish I'd been able to fly Concorde, but the closest I got was piloting the simulator at Filton.

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:01

    I wish I’d been able to fly Concorde, but the closest I got was piloting the simulator at Filton.

    I was on G-BOAG's final flight, currently parked at the Museum of Flight, Seattle

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:01

    I wish I’d been able to fly Concorde, but the closest I got was piloting the simulator at Filton.

    you were on the krypton factor??

  • lou22/12/2008 at 23:02

    very odd. have you got the latest chrome?

    yep.

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:02

    you were on the krypton factor??

    No, I studied Real Time computing at Bristol Polytechnic - we got to visit :)

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:03

    you were on the krypton factor??

    :D

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:04

    yep.

    i'll keep trying then.

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:05

    No, I studied Real Time computing at Bristol Polytechnic - we got to visit

    did you crash?

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:05

    did you crash?

    ouch

  • lou22/12/2008 at 23:07

    i’ll keep trying then.

    it only seems to be me that is having problems with it so i wouldn't worry. i'll see if i can spot if it happens randomly or anything.

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:11

    did you crash?

    Almost, but the instructor stopped me in time. Apparently they have to fill out paperwork every time a simulator crashes. I'm not sure how they got around this for Krypton Factor, but I guess they were being paid for their services.

    The most amazing thing about the simulator is that it was controlled by a 1960s vintage computer, but all the video generating stuff was done by a brand new system (in 1991) that took up a fraction of the space of the main computer. Before that they had (no joke) a camera on a wire that moved around a real landscape.

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:12

    Before that they had (no joke) a camera on a wire that moved around a real landscape.

    :D

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:12

    The most amazing thing about the simulator is that it was controlled by a 1960s vintage computer, but all the video generating stuff was done by a brand new system (in 1991) that took up a fraction of the space of the main computer. Before that they had (no joke) a camera on a wire that moved around a real landscape.

    and now i have x-plane on the ipod.

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:13

    Almost, but the instructor stopped me in time. Apparently they have to fill out paperwork every time a simulator crashes. I’m not sure how they got around this for Krypton Factor, but I guess they were being paid for their services.

    Have only had a go on the fixed sims which aren't nearly as much fun

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:21

    and now i have x-plane on the ipod.

    Damn. I forgot to mention that I found out how to sync iPod Touch/iPhone calendars with Google Calendar. In beta, but then so is Google Mail ;)

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:27

    I guess a link would be an idea: https://www.nuevasync.com/

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:28

    I think I'll be up for an iPhone on renewal of my contract in a couple of months

    I hope my old iPod lasts until then, is showing early signs of tiredness

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:29

    I guess a link would be an idea: https://www.nuevasync.com/

    :D

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:30

    I think I’ll be up for an iPhone on renewal of my contract in a couple of months

    it's very tempting.

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:31

    it’s very tempting.

    Very. Must.Resist.

    I still have a Nokia 1100

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:32

    I still have a Nokia 1100

    Wow, had to look that one up

    "Over 200 million Nokia 1100 cellphones have been sold since its launch in late 2003, making it the world's best selling phone handset"

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:33

    "as well as the best selling consumer electronics device in the world"

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:33

    “Over 200 million Nokia 1100 cellphones have been sold since its launch in late 2003, making it the world’s best selling phone handset”

    And it has an LED torch :)

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 23:34

    Its the thought that moving from annual costs of around £35 to monthly costs of said same sum.

    eek!

    I don't think that the household budget would stand for it either....

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:34

    And it has an LED torch

    :D

    and don't i know it.

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:35

    Its the thought that moving from annual costs of around £35 to monthly costs of said same sum.

    what about the payg option?

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:35

    I don’t think that the household budget would stand for it either….

    That's told him :)

    'tis a tad expensive compared to £3 per month

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:37

    what about the payg option?

    8GB = £340

    16GB = £390

    Not much of an option :(

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:38

    Rumours of an iPhone Nano coming soon (non 3G)

    Lets see what Macworld brings in a couple of weeks

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 23:38

    what about the payg option?

    Um... well you have to buy the phone... then you have to put at least £10 on it per month to keep the wifi/'net active... in the end you are no better off than if you did it on contract and dropped it down after 12months...

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:40

    PAYG iPhone does include 12 months of Internet/Wi-Fi access.

  • lou22/12/2008 at 23:40

    I hope my old iPod lasts until then, is showing early signs of tiredness

    my ipod is dying, i now have very little sound that only comes out of one ear, but the casing is coming loose. It's really really old though. good job christmas is coming up soo ;)

  • Dank22/12/2008 at 23:41

    Anyone looking to take out a brand new contract should consider using Quidco. I know this sounds 'spammy' but I've earned over £1,400 since Nov '05 - but anyway, O2 are on there and they'll pay £45 for an iPhone related contract: http://www.quidco.com/o2/

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:41

    Um… well you have to buy the phone… then you have to put at least £10 on it per month to keep the wifi/’net active… in the end you are no better off than if you did it on contract and dropped it down after 12months…

    i heard you only have to top it up a tenner a month after the first 12 months. duff info?

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:41

    PAYG iPhone does include 12 months of Internet/Wi-Fi access.

    Yup, then it's £10 per month WiFi access thereafter

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:42

    PAYG iPhone does include 12 months of Internet/Wi-Fi access.

    that's all i'm interested in though. no need to call anyone.

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:42

    I know this sounds ’spammy’ but I’ve earned over £1,400 since Nov ‘05

    you've done what and how?

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:43

    that’s all i’m interested in though. no need to call anyone.

    Then all you need is the iPod Touch

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:43

    Then all you need is the iPod Touch

    i have one. but it doesn't have 3g.

    means google maps is as good as useless (if i have wifi, i know where i am).

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:44

    Yup, then it’s £10 per month WiFi access thereafter

    current iphone will be obsolete in 12mnths though, right?

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:44

    i have one. but it doesn’t have 3g.

    means google maps is as good as useless (if i have wifi, i know where i am).

    Sell it on ebay and buy the new one

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:45

    Sell it on ebay and buy the new one

    but the new touch doesn't have 3g either??

  • Dank22/12/2008 at 23:47

    you’ve done what and how?

    Quidco explanation: Quidco works on a referral basis. At the moment, if you go on www.website.com and say they have an advert banner for a merchant and you then buy their product/service, then this merchant (or an affiliate) pays www.website.com a referral for the business.

    Quidco works on the basis that instead of them gaining this amount, they pass it on to you the customer, 100%. How do they keep afloat? Well, they take a fiver of your earnings per year. If you don't earn a fiver you don't pay them anything.

    As an example, I took out a contract with Orange recently and got £150 back. £21 from RAC. £40+ through Christmas shopping in December and not changed my shopping habits.

    Delicious :-D

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:48

    but the new touch doesn’t have 3g either??

    But if you're not calling anyone then just use the WiFi

    Depends on your coverage I guess

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 23:48

    i heard you only have to top it up a tenner a month after the first 12 months. duff info?

    That's what they say... but forums are already hearing tales of people not putting on the £10 the next month and finding their net/wifi access cut off... O2 is telling them that without active call time the wifi/'net doesn't work either... and after x months of you not topping up they can reassign your number etc... would you want to argue t&c out whilst that clock was ticking on your expensive bit of kit...

    Andy is currently off looking at o2 stuff to prove me wrong lol

  • Dank22/12/2008 at 23:48

    I've been modded innit!

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:50

    But if you’re not calling anyone then just use the WiFi

    Depends on your coverage I guess

    i think you're missing my point.

    google maps can use gps and 3g to determine location. thus help you out when you're lost.

    if i have wifi access, i'm either at home, in a train station, an airport or a coffee shop. either way i know where i am.

    christine has a g1, it's gets us to places (mostly) when we're lost. i can't fit christine in my pocket. an iphone (with 3g and gps) would make google maps useful... very useful.

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 23:51

    But if you’re not calling anyone then just use the WiFi

    Depends on your coverage I guess

    Free wifi in Pret now too....

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:51

    I’ve been modded innit!

    again? never before, then twice in a week? one second.

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:52

    current iphone will be obsolete in 12mnths though, right?

    Apple does not comment on unreleased products.

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:52

    Free wifi in Pret now too….

    if i'm in there, i can ask someone where i am :)

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:53

    me: 22/12/2008 at 23:50

    But if you’re not calling anyone then just use the WiFi Depends on your coverage I guess

    i think you’re missing my point.

    google maps can use gps and 3g to determine location. thus help you out when you’re lost.

    if i have wifi access, i’m either at home, in a train station, an airport or a coffee shop. either way i know where i am.

    christine has a g1, it’s gets us to places (mostly) when we’re lost. i can’t fit christine in my pocket. an iphone (with 3g and gps) would make google maps useful… very useful.

    You need a GPS chip installed so Christine can come and get you when you're lost :D

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:53

    if i’m in there, i can ask someone where i am

    Does that make it 'to go'?

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:53

    You need a GPS chip installed so Christine can come and get you when you’re lost

    hehe :)

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:54

    Apple does not comment on unreleased products.

    i'll take that as a "yes".

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 23:54

    when we’re lost. i can’t fit christine in my pocket. an iphone (with 3g and gps) would make google maps useful… very useful.

    How lost do you get? If urban someone will be able to provide a (nearby) postcode, or you can look for a street name...

    If you are that off-grid, then why do you not have a map with you?

    Please tell me you aren't one of those people who go up mountains drunk, in adequate clothing, and without all other necessary gear? (cos if you are, I'll warn the various peeps I e-know who do mountain rescue pmslumwfwp )

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:55

    As an example, I took out a contract with Orange recently and got £150 back. £21 from RAC. £40+ through Christmas shopping in December and not changed my shopping habits.

    Delicious

    woah!

  • littlepurplegoth22/12/2008 at 23:56

    You need a GPS chip installed so Christine can come and get you when you’re lost

    And off to see Professor Warwick with you...

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:56

    If you are that off-grid, then why do you not have a map with you?

    Like Paris? :)

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:56

    How lost do you get? If urban someone will be able to provide a (nearby) postcode, or you can look for a street name…

    in paris? very, very. very lost.

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:56

    SatNav

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:57

    If you are that off-grid, then why do you not have a map with you?

    radical idea. but with google you can have the whole world in your pocket, available at the touch of a (glass) button.

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:57

    Google schmoogle

  • Dank22/12/2008 at 23:57

    woah!

    More info on Wikipedia

    Explaining it first off is a little bit difficult as nobody believes in a 'free lunch' so to speak. Sign up and have a look around. There's over a 1,000 odd retailers on it.

    Particularly useful especially when thinking of taking out a new phone contract etc!

  • Bassano Clapper22/12/2008 at 23:57

    Still got lost though :)

  • Flibster22/12/2008 at 23:58

    2 of my 3 phones have built in GPS so I don't get lost.

    I get temporailly misplaced.

    Google maps and more often than not Tomtom help me out.

  • Dom22/12/2008 at 23:58

    in paris? very, very. very lost.

    You can't even use google translate when you ask for directions...

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:58

    Still got lost though

    it's not a flawless plan, i grant you.

  • Andy Taylor22/12/2008 at 23:59

    Andy is currently off looking at o2 stuff to prove me wrong lol

    My post got swallowed, but basically the O2 terms say so long as you have 17p credit on your phone you can make a data connection. When you top up with £10 at the point of purchase, the 12 months of free data is activated.

  • me22/12/2008 at 23:59

    My post got swallowed, but basically the O2 terms say so long as you have 17p credit on your phone you can make a data connection. When you top up with £10 at the point of purchase, the 12 months of free data is activated.

    that might suit me.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:00

    My post got swallowed, but basically the O2 terms say so long as you have 17p credit on your phone you can make a data connection. When you top up with £10 at the point of purchase, the 12 months of free data is activated.

    What kind of random number is that for phone credit?

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:00

    My post got swallowed

    i see nothing in spam queue?

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 00:01

    Bonjour. Je suis perdu. Pouvez-vous me dire le nom de cette rue ?

    Or

    Bonjour. Je suis perdu. Pouvez-vous me dire le code postal de ce magasin??/de cet endroit?/de cet rue?

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:01

    What kind of random number is that for phone credit?

    :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:02

    Particularly useful especially when thinking of taking out a new phone contract etc!

    i shall do just that. cheers.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:02

    me: 22/12/2008 at 23:59

    My post got swallowed, but basically the O2 terms say so long as you have 17p credit on your phone you can make a data connection. When you top up with £10 at the point of purchase, the 12 months of free data is activated.

    that might suit me.

    After you've spent almost £400 to buy the thing

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:04

    After you’ve spent almost £400 to buy the thing

    Take off £120 for the Internet access and it's merely £270+ :)

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 00:04

    I am sure Lou said she had flown something.

    yeah i did. about 5 years ago i went to a friend’s 13th birthday party, and we had a flying lesson. We each had a chance (there were only 3 of us) to fly a small plane (a bit like the plane James flew for that top gear race once).

    December 22nd, 2008 at 21:02

    R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase) said:

    At the age of 13?

    December 22nd, 2008 at 21:07

    lou said:

    yep. there was an instructor there

    December 22nd, 2008 at 21:10

    R.G (The Rob Smedley loving BMW nutcase) said:

    Well obviously, but 13 still seems young.

    December 22nd, 2008 at 21:12

    lou said:

    lol yeah, it’s a little tradition in her family though every 13th birthday they go flying

    okay, can anyone beat Lou's "Greenie Pigeon" status here for the co-polit's slot of the RSPCR Osprey. Think we are talking 1 hour air time. In the case of a tie, Lou will earn the co-pilots slot due to her mystic abilities the might work better than the on-board collision-avoidance radar....

    okay the Air Crew has almost ben sorted out but I need a Cabin Crew to look after the passengers in flight.....

    How much extra do we make again for handling the Osprey, Christine?

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:04

    After you’ve spent almost £400 to buy the thing

    hmmm, you raise a good point.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:05

    Take off £120 for the Internet access and it’s merely £270+

    Or you can

    a) ask for directions

    b) bring a map

    c) learn how to use the G1

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:05

    i’ll take that as a “yes”.

    I wouldn't. Seriously. If it's not on the Apple website it does not exist.

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:06

    Or you can

    a) ask for directions

    b) bring a map

    c) learn how to use the G1

    it seems so simple when you say it.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:06

    radical idea. but with google you can have the whole world in your pocket, available at the touch of a (glass) button.

    always have a plan 'b' :P

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:07

    I wouldn’t. Seriously. If it’s not on the Apple website it does not exist.

    yeah, but app developers are already bemoaning the lack of horsepower the phone has compared to the touch. they can't keep it in it's current incarnation for 12 months. i see speed bumps before next xmas.

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 00:07

    Lou!

    How was 'Wicked'?

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:08

    Still got lost though

    If you get lost phone someone with a computer and they can find a map and give you directions

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:09

    If you get lost phone someone with a computer and they can find a map and give you directions

    sounds a bit 1990's.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:10

    sounds a bit 1990’s.

    NO, I'M ON THE TRAIN. WHAT?

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:10

    If you do the maths (oh no, Maths!):

    iPhone 3G 8GB = £342.90

    12 Months data = £120.00

    Difference is: £222.90

    iPod Touch 2nd Generation 16GB = £214

    OK, so the Touch has more storage, but no camera, GPS or microphone (for the all important Ocarina app)

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:12

    NO, I’M ON THE TRAIN. WHAT?

    Now it's "I'M ON THE PLANE... NO, PLANE... NAH IT'S RUBBISH"

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:14

    Now it’s “I’M ON THE PLANE… NO, PLANE… NAH IT’S RUBBISH”

    And they want to set up mobile access for the London underground - yeah cos that's a quiet place!

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 00:14

    Andy Taylor said:

    did you crash?

    Almost, but the instructor stopped me in time. Apparently they have to fill out paperwork every time a simulator crashes. I’m not sure how they got around this for Krypton Factor, but I guess they were being paid for their services.

    The most amazing thing about the simulator is that it was controlled by a 1960s vintage computer, but all the video generating stuff was done by a brand new system (in 1991) that took up a fraction of the space of the main computer. Before that they had (no joke) a camera on a wire that moved around a real landscape.

    Okay, Andy Talyor is out of the running for the second seat of the Osprey....Sorry Andy, But Christine wants the Pandas safe at all costs you know....

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:15

    sounds a bit 1990’s.

    It's better than driving round Paris for hours with no idea where you are

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:16

    It’s better than driving round Paris for hours with no idea where you are

    :)

  • Dank23/12/2008 at 00:16

    Has there always been 'drop shadows' on the headings on Sidepodcast (eg. Page title, 'Pages', 'Recent Comments' and every heading in the left and right frames) or am I going nuts?

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:16

    littlepurplegoth: 23/12/2008 at 00:07

    Lou!

    How was ‘Wicked’?

    'Wicked' was amazing, thanks for asking LPG :) it's one of the best productions i've seen. We had perfect seats in the stalls, with no one in front of us (must have been the only empty seats in the theatre), a great way to spend the afternoon. I went with someone who had already seen it twice, and i would recomend it to anyone. Best £19 i ever spent :)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:17

    NO, I’M ON THE TRAIN. WHAT?

    Now it’s “I’M ON THE PLANE… NO, PLANE… NAH IT’S RUBBISH”

    If he is on a plane or a train he isn't lost yet.

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:17

    Okay, Andy Talyor is out of the running for the second seat of the Osprey….Sorry Andy, But Christine wants the Pandas safe at all costs you know….

    :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:17

    Has there always been ‘drop shadows’ on the headings on Sidepodcast (eg. Page title, ‘Pages’, ‘Recent Comments’ and every heading in the left and right frames) or am I going nuts?

    in safari, yes. since last xmas.

    you testing a new browser?

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:18

    Has there always been ‘drop shadows’ on the headings on Sidepodcast (eg. Page title, ‘Pages’, ‘Recent Comments’ and every heading in the left and right frames) or am I going nuts?

    I don't have drop shadows and have never seen them

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:19

    in safari, yes. since last xmas.

    Safari does look nice, just wish it's buttons were a little more customisable

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:19

    If he is on a plane or a train he isn’t lost yet.

    it's possible he could be really really really lost. :P

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:19

    christine is killing herself as she edits the show beside me!

  • Dank23/12/2008 at 00:20

    you testing a new browser?

    Downloaded the latest Firefox beta (3.1 beta 2) to try and fix a few issues I had and then noticed it.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:21

    christine is killing herself as she edits the show beside me!

    That doesn't work in the doohickey (switches to normal page in FF)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:21

    Sidepodspace Update

    The spacewalk is expected to start in 10 to 15 minutes and last for a little over 6 hours. One of the spacewalkers is Russian and there is an interpreter with an annoying voice translating his radio conversations. She does both parts of the conversation which is a bit confusing.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:22

    Downloaded the latest Firefox beta (3.1 beta 2) to try and fix a few issues I had and then noticed it.

    Do the adblock plugins work in FF3 now?

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:22

    Downloaded the latest Firefox beta (3.1 beta 2) to try and fix a few issues I had and then noticed it.

    ahh cool. must give it a try.

    safari were ahead of the css3 game, but others will catch up.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:22

    That doesn’t work in the doohickey (switches to normal page in FF)

    It works in my doohickey

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:22

    christine is killing herself as she edits the show beside me!

    hehehe XD

    That doesn’t work in the doohickey (switches to normal page in FF)

    it didn't work in lclt either (am now using both). works fine in drop.io though :D

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 00:23

    it’s possible he could be really really really lost.

    Isn't there a TV programme with this as the central theme?

    Not that I've ever seen it beyond the 20mins it took me to decide there was something preferable on the 'net somewhere

    rofl

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:23

    The spacewalk is expected to start in 10 to 15 minutes and last for a little over 6 hours. One of the spacewalkers is Russian and there is an interpreter with an annoying voice translating his radio conversations. She does both parts of the conversation which is a bit confusing.

    do you have a link?

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:23

    It works in my doohickey

    That's not something you hear everyday :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:23

    It works in my doohickey

    mine too?

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:24

    littlepurplegoth: 23/12/2008 at 00:23

    it’s possible he could be really really really lost.

    Isn’t there a TV programme with this as the central theme?

    Not that I’ve ever seen it beyond the 20mins it took me to decide there was something preferable on the ‘net somewhere

    rofl

    erm... i'm not sure.. i don't watch much tv anymore.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:24

    it didn’t work in lclt either (am now using both). works fine in drop.io though

    I have it working in both

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:24

    it didn’t work in lclt either (am now using both). works fine in drop.io though

    Meant to ask earlier, lclt?

  • Dank23/12/2008 at 00:24

    Do the adblock plugins work in FF3 now?

    Did in the latest release version, not this beta though.

    Tried Google Chrome this evening as well to try out and was promptly put off by the amount of info Google collect on my browsing habits (not that I have anything to hide!)

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 00:24

    me said:

    But if you’re not calling anyone then just use the WiFi

    Depends on your coverage I guess

    i think you’re missing my point.

    google maps can use gps and 3g to determine location. thus help you out when you’re lost.

    if i have wifi access, i’m either at home, in a train station, an airport or a coffee shop. either way i know where i am.

    christine has a g1, it’s gets us to places (mostly) when we’re lost. i can’t fit christine in my pocket. an iphone (with 3g and gps) would make google maps useful… very useful.

    Those of us in the know use something called a DMI. AS long as you have it set right to "TO/FROM" it will give you your relative heading (it is actually called bearing) based on the "TO/FROM indicator.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:25

    mine too?

    works in my doohickey, but for some reason not lclt... wont let me click the 'play' button....

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:25

    Not that I’ve ever seen it beyond the 20mins it took me to decide there was something preferable on the ‘net somewhere

    Lost is the TV equivalent of crack cocaine according to Marcus Brigstocke. You have to watch it in case something interesting happens and you miss it, apparently.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:25

    Meant to ask earlier, lclt?

    live commenting live thing :)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:25

    do you have a link?

    http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

    If you want a bigger pic choose the other viewing options menu on the right of the screen and click on Windows Media Player

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:26

    live commenting live thing

    aha. Doohickey

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:26

    Meant to ask earlier, lclt?

    the live commenting live ..... thing as named by Shaun

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/ria/ajax/

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:27

    aha. Doohickey

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/realtime/

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:27

    the live commenting live ….. thing as named by Shaun http://www.sidepodcast.com/ria/ajax/

    I thought that was the doohickey, tis what I'm using and cannot play the Drop.io link in it

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:27
  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:28

    I think the ISS has skype problems going by the sound quality

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:28

    Lost is the TV equivalent of crack cocaine according to Marcus Brigstocke. You have to watch it in case something interesting happens and you miss it, apparently.

    given that i've now stopped watching tg. lost is the only thing i actually watch on the television in the corner.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:28

    I thought that was the doohickey, tis what I’m using and cannot play the Drop.io link in it

    Doohickey is just for reading?

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:28

    I think the ISS has skype problems going by the sound quality

    Buffering? :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:28

    the live commenting live ….. thing as named by Shaun

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/ria/ajax/

    alex.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:29

    Doohickey is just for reading?

    on the bottom right of each post there is a reply button

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:29

    I thought that was the doohickey, tis what I’m using and cannot play the Drop.io link in it

    doohickey = http://www.sidepodcast.com/realtime/

    ;)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:29

    alex.

    I am sure Shaun phoned in and used the name first

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:29

    given that i’ve now stopped watching tg. lost is the only thing i actually watch on the television in the corner.

    Plus the Grand Prix?

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:30

    on the bottom right of each post there is a reply button

    Ooh, no. Don't like that at all

    ajax beta is betterer

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:30

    I am sure Shaun phoned in and used the name first

    yeah that's what i thought too..

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:31

    Ooh, no. Don’t like that at all

    ajax beta is betterer

    Not much text history either

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:32

    Plus the Grand Prix?

    not if the beeb do decent streaming, no.

    but, if they do HD coverage, then yes... and the tv in the corner needs replacing :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:32

    Ooh, no. Don’t like that at all

    wassup with the doohickey?

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:33

    Not much text history either

    The advantage is that it lets you follow multiple threads at the same time. I prefer the lclt but I check the doohickey from time to time to see if there is a conversation going on that I don't know about

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:33

    not if the beeb do decent streaming, no.

    Doubt it, look at the iPlayer

    but, if they do HD coverage, then yes… and the tv in the corner needs replacing

    That'd be Ten pints of awesome!

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:34

    I am sure Shaun phoned in and used the name first

    shaun was the thing-a-ma-gig:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/09/01/episode-75-just-listening-to-your-talky-thing-a-ma-gig/

    at least according to christine. alex phoned in here:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/08/06/episode-72-the-live-commenting-live-thing/

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:34

    The advantage is that it lets you follow multiple threads at the same time. I prefer the lclt but I check the doohickey from time to time to see if there is a conversation going on that I don’t know about

    It follows all the threads at one?

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:35

    It follows all the threads at one?

    yep

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:35

    Doubt it, look at the iPlayer

    iPlayer has its uses and you have to give the BBC credit for making it cross-platform, even if it was forced on them by the BBC trustees.

    I have other ways of getting TV shows though :)

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:36

    wassup with the doohickey?

    It follows all the threads at one?

    yep

    OK, I'll let it off then

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:37

    shaun was the thing-a-ma-gig:

    Now I remember. In my head I can still hear Shaun saying the live commenting ..........live ..................thing but maybe it was Alex. I remember Shaun saing the talky thing a ma jig so maybe I am getting things confused.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:38

    Doesn't it get a bit random if there are multi conversations going on?

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:39

    Doubt it, look at the iPlayer

    what's wrong with iPlayer? it works fine for me. the only slight reservation i have with it is that is never has 'A Question of Sport' on it, which is sad cause i hardly get to watch it anymore. although i did watch it the other week and got the 2 f1 questions right :) i correctly recognised Alonso and Massa in their pictures :P

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:39

    Doesn’t it get a bit random if there are multi conversations going on?

    that's what single click quoting's for.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:40

    what’s wrong with iPlayer?

    Poor quality in full screen mode - well, 20" screen at least

    Yes, I'm fussy :D

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:41

    me: 23/12/2008 at 00:39

    Doesn’t it get a bit random if there are multi conversations going on?

    that’s what single click quoting’s for.

    I mean trying to follow it :)

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:41

    i may need some help here. i have to explain to christine the dad's army reference and can't find a decent clip of corp. jones on youtube.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:42

    Bassano Clapper: 23/12/2008 at 00:40

    what’s wrong with iPlayer?

    Poor quality in full screen mode - well, 20″ screen at least

    Yes, I’m fussy

    it's still the best on demand service out of itv's and five's

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 00:43

    Multiple thread conversations are easy to follow though... or have I just spent too much of my life reading things online? (heck there are times when threads/topics spread accross multiple boards/newsgroups and you watch with glee the confusion of people who only follow/read/post on one of the many... bigevillaugh

    OK - so that probably makes me an e-sadist (redface)

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:43

    I mean trying to follow it

    yeah. it can get a bit mental.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:43

    it’s still the best on demand service out of itv’s and five’s

    I'm too used to Virgin Media's TV on demand which is very good

    Or downloading stuff from the states before it airs here (I didn't say that!)

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 00:43

    Well the short form of Coporal is Cpl. , Mr. C....

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:44

    me: 23/12/2008 at 00:41

    i may need some help here. i have to explain to christine the dad’s army reference and can’t find a decent clip of corp. jones on youtube.

    yay, i like dads army :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance-Corporal_Jack_Jones does this help?

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 00:45

    i may need some help here. i have to explain to christine the dad’s army reference and can’t find a decent clip of corp. jones on youtube.

    There has been a lot of dads army on bbc two the last few days.. any on iPlayer?

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:45

    yay, i like dads army http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance-Corporal_Jack_Jones does this help?

    was kinda looking for a clip.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:45

    Doohickey hasn't updated in 8 minutes, is that normal?

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:46

    Well the short form of Coporal is Cpl. , Mr. C….

    apologies.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:46

    was kinda looking for a clip.

    like this? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6wok7g7do&feature=related

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:47

    Doohickey hasn’t updated in 8 minutes, is that normal?

    nope. it has issues.

    there's a timer at the bottom of the screen that should refresh ever 20 seconds.

    working on fixes at the moment.

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:48

    like this? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6wok7g7do&feature=related

    technically that is jones, but he's not one step behind like lpg and andy.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:49

    there’s a timer at the bottom of the screen that should refresh ever 20 seconds.

    Last polled: Tue Dec 23 2008 00:38:28 GMT+0000 (GMT)

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:49

    working on fixes at the moment.

    It's complicated in the back room isn't it?

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:49

    Last polled: Tue Dec 23 2008 00:38:28 GMT+0000 (GMT)

    holy cow. it's gone past midnight??

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:50

    i may need some help here. i have to explain to christine the dad’s army reference and can’t find a decent clip of corp. jones on youtube.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n0OLK-WgqGo

    Start at 3 minutes 55

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:50

    It’s complicated in the back room isn’t it?

    totally.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 00:51

    Start at 3 minutes 55

    3 min 45 not 55

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:51

    me: 23/12/2008 at 00:50

    It’s complicated in the back room isn’t it?

    totally.

    I'll stick to aeroplanes, was never very good with avionics :)

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 00:52

    technically that is jones, but he’s not one step behind like lpg and andy.

    Oi! it wasn't at our end!!

    (oh, memories of primary school assembly football reports..'we got the ball up our end... they got it up their end...' etc etc doohickey... all very NFB though (at least I wasn't native to there, but then I was never the one doing the report.. still don't see the point of football rofl)

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:53

    .. still don’t see the point of football rofl)

    Me neither

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:54

    Me neither

    As my colleague said today - 22 millionaires kicking a ball around and you mugs pay to watch. :D

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:54

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n0OLK-WgqGo</blockquote

    ooh i see what you mean now 'me' :)

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:55

    Very true

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:55

    3 min 45 not 55

    puuuuuurfect. thanks you :)

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 00:55

    December 23rd, 2008 at 00:51

    Bassano Clapper said:

    me: 23/12/2008 at 00:50

    It’s complicated in the back room isn’t it?

    totally.

    I’ll stick to aeroplanes, was never very good with avionics

    I would like to have the record state that Bassano Clapper makes me very nervous.......Please remove him from the Ground Crew for the Osprey....

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:55

    Oi! it wasn’t at our end!!

    oops, sorry.

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:55

    I would like to have the record state that Bassano Clapper makes me very nervous…….Please remove him from the Ground Crew for the Osprey….

    noted.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:56

    I would like to have the record state that Bassano Clapper makes me very nervous…….Please remove him from the Ground Crew for the Osprey….

    :D

  • lou23/12/2008 at 00:57

    I would like to have the record state that Bassano Clapper makes me very nervous…….Please remove him from the Ground Crew for the Osprey….

    hehe

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:57

    I didn't think we were behind. I was having attention deficit problems due to not being able to hear properly, then when I called in after the song I forgot to turn down the video feed which was several seconds behind and confused me because using the Bluetooth headset I can't hear the audio stream for some unknown reason that I haven't bothered to figure out.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:57

    I would like to have the record state that Bassano Clapper makes me very nervous…….Please remove him from the Ground Crew for the Osprey….

    I only do civillian craft anyway :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:58

    I didn’t think we were behind.

    you haven't watched the show back yet, have you?

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 00:58

    you haven’t watched the show back yet, have you?

    Um, no.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 00:59

    It's definitely time for some tea and crumpets

  • me23/12/2008 at 00:59

    Um, no.

    i recommend you download and scrub to the song.

    it's worth it, i promise you.

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 00:59

    lou said:

    I would like to have the record state that Bassano Clapper makes me very nervous…….Please remove him from the Ground Crew for the Osprey….

    hehe

    Quite laughing Lou! As co-pilot, if Bassano makes a mistake and has the FBW controls crossed, WE die!

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:00

    Quite laughing Lou! As co-pilot, if Bassano makes a mistake and has the FBW controls crossed, WE die!

    what about the panda's?

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:01

    I didn’t think we were behind. I was having attention deficit problems due to not being able to hear properly, then when I called in after the song I forgot to turn down the video feed which was several seconds behind and confused me because using the Bluetooth headset I can’t hear the audio stream for some unknown reason that I haven’t bothered to figure out.

    Plus he lacks having put the time in at Evesham/other studios that would have prepared him for working with a delay, and having something different come in through the headphones to the thing you are talking about :-)

    (and yes, that was a favourite pastime at college - leaving the desks on delay so as to confuse the next lot of techs/students in :0 its great fun hearing yourself back 30seconds removed, but does enable you to silence the swearing before broadcast ;-) )

    Which he is now commenting on to rebuff of course...

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:01

    December 23rd, 2008 at 00:57Bassano Clapper said:

    I would like to have the record state that Bassano Clapper makes me very nervous…….Please remove him from the Ground Crew for the Osprey….

    I only do civillian craft anyway

    What? The Osprey is armed? How smart are you guys giving Lou and me an armed aircraft with the salary you are paying us?

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:01

    i recommend you download and scrub to the song.

    Link please?

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:02

    Um, no.

    it's a must ;) one of 'me's last comments from last night says it all :P

    me said: December 22nd, 2008 at 02:56

    fiiiiiiiiiiive maasssa spiiiiins…. spins.

    love it.

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:03

    Link please?

    to yesterday's show? damn you're high maintenance :)

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/12/21/live-there-aint-no-party-like-a-sidepodparty/

    video:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/episodes/media/live/live31.mp4

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:03

    Plus he lacks having put the time in at Evesham/other studios that would have prepared him for working with a delay, and having something different come in through the headphones to the thing you are talking about

    Huh. I used to present radio shows with the live output in one ear and the pre-fade in the other, so I can do it, I was just confused due to the lateness of the hour and the fact that I was doing something different to previous occasions.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:03

    Quite laughing Lou! As co-pilot, if Bassano makes a mistake and has the FBW controls crossed, WE die!

    ah well, has been a good life ;) i never asked to be co-pilot :P i've only flown a plane for like 1/2 hour. :P

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:04

    What? The Osprey is armed? How smart are you guys giving Lou and me an armed aircraft with the salary you are paying us?

    You wanted to bomb the opposition so it was either arm it or let you take a panda on a suicide mission. And we can't afford to risk a panda

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:04

    Quite laughing Lou! As co-pilot, if Bassano makes a mistake and has the FBW controls crossed, WE die!

    Oh I am *so* glad that I don't do planes...

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:04

    to yesterday’s show? damn you’re high maintenance

    I think the sidepodcast.tv thingy doesn't work properly for me. Dowloading the other link now. thanks :)

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:04

    me said:

    Quite laughing Lou! As co-pilot, if Bassano makes a mistake and has the FBW controls crossed, WE die!

    what about the panda’s?

    Ahhh, Pandaburgers, anyone?

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:04

    fiiiiiiiiiiive maasssa spiiiiins…. spins.

    At one point there were five spins one after the other on the same line

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:05

    Ahhh, Pandaburgers, anyone?

    Jeremy Clarkson has probably eaten one of those. I think I'll pass.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:05

    ah well, has been a good life i never asked to be co-pilot i’ve only flown a plane for like 1/2 hour.

    That makes you the second most qualified pilot we have

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:06

    Steven Roy: 23/12/2008 at 01:05

    ah well, has been a good life i never asked to be co-pilot i’ve only flown a plane for like 1/2 hour.

    That makes you the second most qualified pilot we have

    haha

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:09

    lou said:

    Quite laughing Lou! As co-pilot, if Bassano makes a mistake and has the FBW controls crossed, WE die!

    ah well, has been a good life i never asked to be co-pilot i’ve only flown a plane for like 1/2 hour.

    Yeah, well, it appears to be 30 minutes more than everyone else...combined.

    Well, with the wires crossed, taking off might be a bit of a bugger....one of us should clue in that the Opsrey is not rising into the air with the stick pulled back....

    Then we can use the armaments on the brillant avonics engineers that crossed the Flight control ssytems.... :P .

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:10

    I was just confused due to the lateness of the hour and the fact that I was doing something different to previous occasions.

    Yes yes dear, whatever you say...

    Great this, having gentle domestics on the sidepodcast comments whilst sitting but feet apart and talking about something else entirely...

    Welcome to my life... and somehow we have managed to have 3 children (rolls eyes)

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:10

    Yeah, well, it appears to be 30 minutes more than everyone else…combined.

    i have x-plane.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:10

    i have x-plane.

    what's x-plane?

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:11

    i have x-plane.

    That.Doesn't.Count.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:12

    I would like to point out that I wouldn't be crossing any wires as I only touch the oily bits

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:13

    Well, with the wires crossed, taking off might be a bit of a bugger….one of us should clue in that the Opsrey is not rising into the air with the stick pulled back….

    At least with the Osprey you can look out of the window and see if the rotors are tilted in the right direction. It's not like you are rlying on flaps that you can't see.

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:13

    i have x-plane.

    can you make sure that you don't use the airspace that goes over here when you go up please?

    (that's the birmingham to Luton corridor btw, unless you are following the M1, cos that's just about far enough away that I won't worry to much I'll just listen for every fire engine in the place firing up its sirens at the same time and hurtling up/down Watling Street.... The M1 is the road that is paralell to and not as straight as Watling street, and has more lanes to it btw ;-) )

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:14

    me said:

    Yeah, well, it appears to be 30 minutes more than everyone else…combined.

    i have x-plane.

    Sure thing, Chuck Yeager!

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:14

    I flew under the Eiffel Tower in a lear Jet in a flight sime game if that helps

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:16

    Listening to the 12 F1 Days now - I see what you mean, am creasing up with laughter.

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:16

    what’s x-plane?

    http://www.tuaw.com/2008/09/24/tuaw-review-x-plane-9-for-iphone-ipod-touch/

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:17

    Listening to the 12 F1 Days now - I see what you mean, am creasing up with laughter.

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:17

    me, have you had any issues since going to 10.5.6?

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:18

    I do not want to say what I did with the Extra in MS Flight Sim 2000.....

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:18

    me: 23/12/2008 at 01:16

    what’s x-plane?

    http://www.tuaw.com/2008/09/24/tuaw-review-x-plane-9-for-iphone-ipod-touch/

    oh right. that looks fun :)

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:18

    And when's the SPC app coming out? :D

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:18

    me, have you had any issues since going to 10.5.6?

    I'm OK here with 10.5.6. Safari seems snappier ;)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:19

    I do not want to say what I did with the Extra in MS Flight Sim 2000…..

    go on

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:19

    I’m OK here with 10.5.6. Safari seems snappier

    :D

    Never gets old that one

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:19

    Listening to the 12 F1 Days now - I see what you mean, am creasing up with laughter.

    The funny thing is that we heard other people after us, so how did we manage to end up last on the "massa spins"?

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:20

    me, have you had any issues since going to 10.5.6?

    literally just the initial problem with startup items crashing. removed and all is well now.

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:20

    And when’s the SPC app coming out?

    it's coming, but the website redesign / development needs to happen first.

    it'll be a live commenting app.

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:21

    That was fun... you can kind of tell who had 'proper' microphones though...

    And Alianora... wow, made me think of the 78s on shellac that were on the radio the other day :-)

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:21

    Was drooling over the unibody MacBooks today

    Guess I should really get my old laptop fixed though

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:21

    The funny thing is that we heard other people after us, so how did we manage to end up last on the “massa spins”?

    i have no idea? but i'm glad you did because it made the whole thing magical.

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:23

    Steven Roy said:

    I do not want to say what I did with the Extra in MS Flight Sim 2000…..

    go on

    Before Sept. 11, 2001, I did figure "8" with inside knifeedges (Bank 90 degrees with full opposite rudder) at the WTC's Towers 1 and 2.

    Not to proud about now....

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:25

    Not to proud about now….

    I don't see anything wrong with that and I am sure you are not the only one who did it. When I got hold of a sim the first thing I did was try to go under the Eiffel Tower and the Arc de Triomphe and various bridges. it is natural in any of thos games to interact with the buildings.

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:26

    Was drooling over the unibody MacBooks today

    They are nice aren't they? :) Have you seen the video showing the manufacturing process?

    http://www.apple.com/uk/macbook/the-new-macbook/

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:28

    They are nice aren’t they? Have you seen the video showing the manufacturing process?

    Yeah, I watched the launch and was drooling then when John Ives was showing it

    £900+ is silly though

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:29

    Steven Roy said:

    Not to proud about now….

    I don’t see anything wrong with that and I am sure you are not the only one who did it. When I got hold of a sim the first thing I did was try to go under the Eiffel Tower and the Arc de Triomphe and various bridges. it is natural in any of thos games to interact with the buildings.

    Wanna take over the second seat if Christine and "me" decide to head back to Paris on the Osprey? :P .

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:30

    £900+ is silly though

    It does look like a lot, but you get what you pay for :)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:31

    Wanna take over the second seat if Christine and “me” decide to head back to Paris on the Osprey? .

    It would sort out the pigeons who "annoy" people standing under the Eiffel Tower

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:31

    It does look like a lot, but you get what you pay for

    They are well spec'd but it's a lot of dosh for an entry level laptop

    (The white MacBook doesn't count)

    Still want one though

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:32

    £900+ is silly though

    you say that, but... well, lets just say i'm happy with my macbook investment, and i do it again in a heartbeat.

    in fact, if the unibody came with a matte screen option, my credit card would've already taken some punishment.

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:32

    balls. that was me commenting there!

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:33

    Steven Roy said:

    Wanna take over the second seat if Christine and “me” decide to head back to Paris on the Osprey? .

    It would sort out the pigeons who “annoy” people standing under the Eiffel Tower

    But the Arc is surely a "no joy" in the Osprey....

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:34

    But the Arc is surely a “no joy” in the Osprey….

    I would need to try just to be sure

  • Journeyer23/12/2008 at 01:34

    balls. that was me commenting there!

    Sure looked like it. The comment had a lack of capital letters. :P

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:34

    Sure looked like it. The comment had a lack of capital letters.

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:34

    in fact, if the unibody came with a matte screen option, my credit card would’ve already taken some punishment.

    I've got a glossy iMac and it's really not an issue for me

    I'm not a Graphics/Photo pro though I guess

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:34

    if the unibody came with a matte screen option

    You soon get used to the glossy screen apparently. I'm sticking with my matte Macbook Pro though.

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:35

    I’ve got a glossy iMac and it’s really not an issue for me

    i borrow one frequently, but i get sick of the sight of meself :D

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:35

    Steven Roy said:

    But the Arc is surely a “no joy” in the Osprey….

    I would need to try just to be sure

    Well take Lou with you on that trial. She needs to build up her hours...

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:36

    Well take Lou with you on that trial. She needs to build up her hours…

    what's the minimum for a ppl?

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:36

    I’m not a Graphics/Photo pro though I guess

    glossy makes the pictures look fantastic though, ideal for showing clients.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:36

    i borrow one frequently, but i get sick of the sight of meself

    You could wear the panda head

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:36

    You could wear the panda head

    :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:36

    You could wear the panda head

    bloody fur.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:37

    what’s the minimum for a ppl?

    A little more than half an hour I think

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:37

    Well take Lou with you on that trial. She needs to build up her hours…

    I think I would prefer someone who had seen an Osprey before just to be safe

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:37

    A little more than half an hour I think

    I'm so glad McDonalds doesn't run an airline :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:37

    glossy makes the pictures look fantastic though, ideal for showing clients.

    sure but it's no use trying to colour correct video when the colour of my t-shirt affects the choices.

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:38

    me said:

    Well take Lou with you on that trial. She needs to build up her hours…

    what’s the minimum for a ppl?

    In the land of Frozen Tundra, around 25 hours dual and 25 hours solo. 200 - 250 hours solo to apply for commerical.

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:38

    sure but it’s no use trying to colour correct video when the colour of my t-shirt affects the choices.

    Ooo, just had a great idea - 18% grey t-shirts :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:39

    Ooo, just had a great idea - 18% grey t-shirts

    :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:39

    In the land of Frozen Tundra, around 25 hours dual and 25 hours solo. 200 - 250 hours solo to apply for commerical.

    we're gonna need a smaller helicopeter.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:40

    glossy makes the pictures look fantastic though, ideal for showing clients.

    Even the new Cinema Display is glossy now, seems matte is going the way of Firewire

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:40

    Even the new Cinema Display is glossy now, seems matte is going the way of Firewire

    neither of which please me.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:41

    I think I would prefer someone who had seen an Osprey before just to be safe

    i've seen one, someone linked to one earlier. :P

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:41

    neither of which please me.

    Glossy is all about your ambient lighting, lack of Firewire is a big mistake I feel

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:42

    i’ve seen one, someone linked to one earlier.

    :D

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:42

    i’ve seen one, someone linked to one earlier.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-22_Osprey

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:42

    The Osprey's wingspan in 14 metres so it should fit OK. Can we get a swing wing version just in case or convert a standard one to seing wing?

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:42

    Andy Taylor said:

    A little more than half an hour I think

    I’m so glad McDonalds doesn’t run an airline

    Closest I heard of was Kamikaze Airways, apparently, they specialized in one-way, non-stop direct flights. They offered massive discounts on repeat customers, too!

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:42

    In the land of Frozen Tundra, around 25 hours dual and 25 hours solo. 200 - 250 hours solo to apply for commerical.

    wow i have a lot work to do ;)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:43

    i’ve seen one, someone linked to one earlier.

    Good enough for me

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:43

    Closest I heard of was Kamikaze Airways, apparently, they specialized in one-way, non-stop direct flights. They offered massive discounts on repeat customers, too!

    I think Hooters Airways went out of business too, who'd a thunk it!

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:44

    Bassano Clapper: 23/12/2008 at 01:42

    i’ve seen one, someone linked to one earlier.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-22_Osprey

    is anyone going to be jumping out of our Osprey?

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:44

    Good enough for me

    :)

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:45

    is anyone going to be jumping out of our Osprey?

    Only if Panda gets dropped :D

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:46

    Closest I heard of was Kamikaze Airways, apparently, they specialized in one-way, non-stop direct flights. They offered massive discounts on repeat customers, too!

    Interzone magazine. one of the issues in 2001 (I can't remember if it was before or after DD2 came along though, lol). Or shades of Robert Cormiers 'The Chocolate War'.

    Noooo. Note to self. Can of redbull cola at 6pm on a day when you are on the up from a bleurgh few days, is *not* a good idea... its nearly 2am ffs!

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:46

    Glossy is all about your ambient lighting, lack of Firewire is a big mistake I feel

    I'm a little sad about the loss of Firewire from the Macbook as there is no option to add it back in.

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:47

    Noooo. Note to self. Can of redbull cola at 6pm on a day when you are on the up from a bleurgh few days, is *not* a good idea… its nearly 2am ffs!

    but it's christmas?

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:47

    is anyone going to be jumping out of our Osprey?

    Depends how good your flying is.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:47

    I’m a little sad about the loss of Firewire from the Macbook as there is no option to add it back in.

    Feels too much like forcing you into a MBP (£400 away)

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:48

    Steven Roy: 23/12/2008 at 01:47

    is anyone going to be jumping out of our Osprey?

    Depends how good your flying is.

    hahahaha

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:49

    Feels too much like forcing you into a MBP (£400 away)

    It does, but for the majority of people, it's not an issue. Neither is the glossy screen.

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:49

    December 23rd, 2008 at 01:42Steven Roy said:

    The Osprey’s wingspan in 14 metres so it should fit OK. Can we get a swing wing version just in case or convert a standard one to seing wing?

    Great, now wingspan covers the wings, but what about the overlapping rotor blades? You need to add the length of two blades as the centre of the rotor is at the end of the wingtip.... One rotor blade clearence for each wing and that is your maximium width. If flying under the arc is possible you are going to be in hover mode and try it sideways.

    And me, its Christine's money, not yours to spend on Lou's training. Lou is saving Christine 30 minutes of expenses!

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:49

    Only if Panda gets dropped

    Just give the panda a parachute. And an alieo-tometer thingy-whatit (I can't remember how to spell... its nearly 2am) to set it off. Or just an attached cord-thingy like the AAC use.

    Now, would a Panda have a trad. round parachute, or a modern steerable one. Bearing in mind that bamboo is one of the fabrics used in parachutes these days :-)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:49

    is anyone going to be jumping out of our Osprey?

    We could give Bernie and Max a lift back for one of the races then when we are over the sea somewhere.... I am sure Jordan would be happy to b the pilot on that flight.

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:50

    And me, its Christine’s money, not yours to spend on Lou’s training. Lou is saving Christine 30 minutes of expenses!

    i thought the money came from relentless?

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:50

    Now, would a Panda have a trad. round parachute, or a modern steerable one. Bearing in mind that bamboo is one of the fabrics used in parachutes these days

    Just don't tell the panda or it will eat the parachute on the way down :(

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:50

    Now, would a Panda have a trad. round parachute, or a modern steerable one. Bearing in mind that bamboo is one of the fabrics used in parachutes these days

    you're offering a panda an edible parachute? e-vil.

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:51

    you’re offering a panda an edible parachute? e-vil.

    I'm being told that the panda wouldn't want to eat the bamboo once it's been turned into parachute material, so that's OK then.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:52

    Great, now wingspan covers the wings, but what about the overlapping rotor blades? You need to add the length of two blades as the centre of the rotor is at the end of the wingtip…. One rotor blade clearence for each wing and that is your maximium width. If flying under the arc is possible you are going to be in hover mode and try it sideways.

    Including rotors it is 25.8 metres which may be a bit too wide.

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:52

    you’re offering a panda an edible parachute? e-vil.

    Nooo - by the time its become a parachute fabric its as inedible as an inedible thing.... would you eat something dragged through ethanol to force the fibre into shape?

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:52

    Steven Roy said:

    is anyone going to be jumping out of our Osprey?

    Depends how good your flying is.

    I would like to point out that I have already "bailed out" when Steven Roy came up with the idea of flying the Osprey under the Arc in Paris... And the engines have not even been warmed up yet.....

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:53

    Great, now wingspan covers the wings, but what about the overlapping rotor blades? You need to add the length of two blades as the centre of the rotor is at the end of the wingtip…. One rotor blade clearence for each wing and that is your maximium width. If flying under the arc is possible you are going to be in hover mode and try it sideways.

    Including rotors it is 25.8 metres which may be a bit too wide.

    right, ok can i not be there when you try that? can i not take my training in a safer enviroment?

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:53

    Nooo - by the time its become a parachute fabric its as inedible as an inedible thing…. would you eat something dragged through ethanol to force the fibre into shape?

    am you saying i'm a panda?

    do you have any evidence to back that up?

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:53

    Nooo - by the time its become a parachute fabric its as inedible as an inedible thing…. would you eat something dragged through ethanol to force the fibre into shape?

    Depends if the ethanol was Guinness or not :D

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:53

    do you have any evidence to back that up?

    :D

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:53

    Depends if the ethanol was Guinness or not

    :)

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:54

    you’re offering a panda an edible parachute? e-vil.

    That would be a great survival aid. You have to jump from a plane and you know that when you land you at least have something to eat. I wonder if they could make a chocolate parachute.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:54

    do you have any evidence to back that up?

    :D

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:54

    Nooo - by the time its become a parachute fabric its as inedible as an inedible thing…. would you eat something dragged through ethanol to force the fibre into shape?

    Edible and alcoholic. It just gets better

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:55

    That would be a great survival aid. You have to jump from a plane and you know that when you land you at least have something to eat. I wonder if they could make a chocolate parachute.

    If you'll buy chocolate parachutes, would you be interested in some chocolate teapots or knitted woollen shower curtains?

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:55

    Edible and alcoholic. It just gets better

    is this the plan to make sure the pandas aren't too much trouble on the flight? give them food and alcohol?

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 01:56

    Depends if the ethanol was Guinness or not

    Um, no. Definately not. Its made from the bits of the bamboo that are useless for cloth and have no regrowth potential.

    Oh good grief. I have spent too much time on materials science 101 this year.

    And Me.... its doing that 'posting too fast' thing again when Andy and I are posting :-(

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:56

    is this the plan to make sure the pandas aren’t too much trouble on the flight? give them food and alcohol?

    Works for me

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:56

    is this the plan to make sure the pandas aren’t too much trouble on the flight? give them food and alcohol?

    Well, given your apparent lack of flight hours on the Osprey, the last thing you need is a couple of pandas trying to get onto the flight deck, so this is probably a good idea.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:57

    And Me…. its doing that ‘posting too fast’ thing again when Andy and I are posting

    Try using different browsers to each other

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 01:57

    December 23rd, 2008 at 01:49Steven Roy said:

    is anyone going to be jumping out of our Osprey?

    We could give Bernie and Max a lift back for one of the races then when we are over the sea somewhere…. I am sure Jordan would be happy to b the pilot on that flight.

    I would do the flight for free. I imagine there would be a big fight over who would co-pilot the flight....

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:57

    And Me…. its doing that ‘posting too fast’ thing again when Andy and I are posting

    sorry, we were being spammed off of the web earlier this week, so i locked the site down. gimmie two mins.

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 01:57

    sorry, we were being spammed off of the web earlier this week, so i locked the site down. gimmie two mins.

    We have static IP address if that helps :)

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 01:58

    Well, given your apparent lack of flight hours on the Osprey, the last thing you need is a couple of pandas trying to get onto the flight deck, so this is probably a good idea.

    Locking the flight deck door would be a good precaution, they come Kevlar lined these days with CCTV

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:58

    We have static IP address if that helps

    it's based on ip, then email i think. have lowered it to two seconds.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 01:59

    I would do the flight for free. I imagine there would be a big fight over who would co-pilot the flight….

    Can we get a couple of ejector seats fitted in the passenger compartment to help get rid of them.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 01:59

    Well, given your apparent lack of flight hours on the Osprey, the last thing you need is a couple of pandas trying to get onto the flight deck, so this is probably a good idea.

    haha

  • me23/12/2008 at 01:59

    Locking the flight deck door would be a good precaution, they come Kevlar lined these days with CCTV

    it's a panda, they'd struggle to get past a wooden door.

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 02:00

    You can make 'parachute' nylon from Hemp as well :-)

    (Hemp is very similar to bamboo, except that its a useful food source for humans rather than pandas. You can put it in chocolate and brownies (but not in the A.B. Toklas way, wrong sort of Salvita), and use the oil in salad dressings and to treat and prevent excema, and make fuel from it, and plastics, and clothes, and all sorts of other things useful or not, and paper, and bits of computers...

    And please *don't* get me started on hemp I could talk about that all evening...

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:00

    it’s a panda, they’d struggle to get past a wooden door.

    You'd be surprised, I saw one dancing the other day and talking into a microphone

  • me23/12/2008 at 02:01

    You’d be surprised, I saw one dancing the other day and talking into a microphone

    :D

    :D

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 02:01

    lou said:

    Great, now wingspan covers the wings, but what about the overlapping rotor blades? You need to add the length of two blades as the centre of the rotor is at the end of the wingtip…. One rotor blade clearence for each wing and that is your maximium width. If flying under the arc is possible you are going to be in hover mode and try it sideways.

    Including rotors it is 25.8 metres which may be a bit too wide.

    right, ok can i not be there when you try that? can i not take my training in a safer enviroment?

    Yes, the training takes a while so that you can develop a feel for the aircraft, like knowing when you have a very high chance of snapping off the rotors in flight while flying under the Arc in Paris....

    Come on Lou, let us scare some pigeons under the Effel Tower.... Relentless is paying...

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 02:01

    it’s a panda, they’d struggle to get past a wooden door.

    Or undo a zip?

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 02:02

    (Hemp is very similar to bamboo, except that its a useful food source for humans rather than pandas. You can put it in chocolate and brownies (but not in the A.B. Toklas way, wrong sort of Salvita), and use the oil in salad dressings and to treat and prevent excema, and make fuel from it, and plastics, and clothes, and all sorts of other things useful or not, and paper, and bits of computers…

    The only problem with hemp is if there is a fire on the Osprey people will be too stoned to get out.

  • me23/12/2008 at 02:02

    Or undo a zip?

    ouch ;)

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 02:03

    Right, 2am so I really must go to sleep. Working from 10 :s

  • me23/12/2008 at 02:04

    Right, 2am so I really must go to sleep. Working from 10 :s

    cheers sir.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:04

    Or undo a zip?

    Lack of opposable thumbs

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:04

    'night Andy

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:05

    Come on Lou, let us scare some pigeons under the Effel Tower…. Relentless is paying…

    erm... well i suppose i've always wanted to go to paris...

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:05

    Night Andy.

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 02:05

    The only problem with hemp is if there is a fire on the Osprey people will be too stoned to get out.

    You missed the bit about wrong sort of Salvita. You're unlikely to get high from hemp unless you smoke/consume about 10 hectares worth of crop in under 2 hours.

  • Andy Taylor23/12/2008 at 02:06

    Night all.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:06

    You missed the bit about wrong sort of Salvita. You’re unlikely to get high from hemp unless you smoke/consume about 10 hectares worth of crop in under 2 hours.

    You've never been to Brixton then :D

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 02:07

    lou said:

    Edible and alcoholic. It just gets better

    is this the plan to make sure the pandas aren’t too much trouble on the flight? give them food and alcohol?

    Well a lot depends on your input into the flight controls Lou. The more smooth you are, the less food and alcohol the Panda need. I was planning on letting you do most of the flying....I am just long in case i need to save the bird. By that time, the pandas will know they are in trouble.....

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 02:09

    You’ve never been to Brixton then

    Not in *that* way... Passed through on other business a few times :-)

    I'm being dragged off to bed, now, apparently I am supposed to sleep?

    (I like it here, its nice not to be the only person awake at stupid O'Clock :-) )

    Sorry about the zipper...

    nn all.

  • Steven Roy23/12/2008 at 02:09

    Night all.

    It's good night from him and good night from me as well. Night all.

  • me23/12/2008 at 02:10

    (I like it here, its nice not to be the only person awake at stupid O’Clock )

    see ya lpg ;)

  • me23/12/2008 at 02:10

    It’s good night from him and good night from me as well. Night all.

    see ya steven.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:10

    'night LPG

    'night Steven

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:11

    Well a lot depends on your input into the flight controls Lou. The more smooth you are, the less food and alcohol the Panda need. I was planning on letting you do most of the flying….I am just long in case i need to save the bird. By that time, the pandas will know they are in trouble…..

    i hope you are aware i have no idea how to take off or land... or do any of the complicated things, i can literally just steer the plane.... and it was a small plane at that :P

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:12

    Night littlepurplegoth :D

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:12

    i hope you are aware i have no idea how to take off or land… or do any of the complicated things, i can literally just steer the plane…. and it was a small plane at that

    Lots of throttle, pull back before end of runway

    Landing is a tad more involved

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:12

    It’s good night from him and good night from me as well. Night all.

    night Steven

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 02:12

    Steven Roy said:

    I would do the flight for free. I imagine there would be a big fight over who would co-pilot the flight….

    Can we get a couple of ejector seats fitted in the passenger compartment to help get rid of them.

    I hereby make an offical request that Alinora's R & D department come up with some system that only allows the passenger ejector seat to fire when the Osprey is in hover mode.....

    I assume that these are upward-firing ejector seats...

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:18

    Lots of throttle, pull back before end of runway Landing is a tad more involved

    i'm gonna need some practise... and maybe some lessons :P

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 02:21

    lou said:

    Well a lot depends on your input into the flight controls Lou. The more smooth you are, the less food and alcohol the Panda need. I was planning on letting you do most of the flying….I am just long in case i need to save the bird. By that time, the pandas will know they are in trouble…..

    i hope you are aware i have no idea how to take off or land… or do any of the complicated things, i can literally just steer the plane…. and it was a small plane at that

    Fortunately for us, Lou, most of the flight is the flying from point A to B part. The part that I have figured that the bird will be in danger is the same said part that you have mentioned: Namely a) Taking-off, and the transfer from Hover to flight modes; b) The Transfer from Flight to Hover modes, and the landing; c) The other complicated things are called "emergencies" and I expect your shreiking to awaken me from my sumbers under those circumstances....

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 02:22

    BRB, need to walk the dog.

  • me23/12/2008 at 02:23

    BRB, need to walk the dog.

    i'll still be here.

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:24

    The other complicated things are called “emergencies” and I expect your shreiking to awaken me from my sumbers under those circumstances….

    you mean my shreiking as i jump out of the plane right? cause if there are complications i'll be the first to run for the emergancy door and parachutes :P

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:25

    you mean my shreiking as i jump out of the plane right? cause if there are complications i’ll be the first to run for the emergancy door and parachutes

    Parachuting, now that's a scary thing. Fun though

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:27

    Parachuting, now that’s a scary thing. Fun though

    never had the urge to jump out of a plane but i will if it's the easy way out of a mid air complication :P

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:28

    never had the urge to jump out of a plane but i will if it’s the easy way out of a mid air complication

    'tis an experience worth doing once

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:31

    ’tis an experience worth doing once

    i will keep that in mind for the future ;)

  • lou23/12/2008 at 02:32

    anyway tis late and i really should be going to sleep, night all!! x

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 02:33

    'night Lou

  • me23/12/2008 at 02:36

    anyway tis late and i really should be going to sleep, night all!! x

    night lou

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 02:49

    Bassano Clapper said:

    you mean my shreiking as i jump out of the plane right? cause if there are complications i’ll be the first to run for the emergancy door and parachutes

    Parachuting, now that’s a scary thing. Fun though

    It is more scary for me as I am the one who has to explain to Christine and Mr. C why Lou stole my knapsnack and jumped out of an perfect airworthy airplane two miles up for no apparent reason, other than the red intercomm light was on.

  • me23/12/2008 at 02:50

    It is more scary for me as I am the one who has to explain to Christine and Mr. C why Lou stole my knapsnack and jumped out of an perfect airworthy airplane two miles up for no apparent reason, other than the red intercomm light was on.

    :D

  • Jordan Allen ()23/12/2008 at 02:56

    lou said:

    anyway tis late and i really should be going to sleep, night all!! x

    Run into a slight headwind and consequently run a little late and Lou bails out on me!

    Should I be more concerned for me or her that she took my knapsnack....

    ....But I am so hungry I had BBQ chips in there!

  • me23/12/2008 at 03:28

    meant to say earlier, photo collections now updated:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sidepodcast/sets/72157610807173397/

    and

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sidepodcast/sets/72157611435205909/

  • Journeyer23/12/2008 at 03:44

    meant to say earlier, photo collections now updated:

    coolness! I especially loved the Williams pics. :)

  • me23/12/2008 at 03:51

    coolness! I especially loved the Williams pics.

    i'm glad, because there's some slightly awkward lighting in that building. am amazed any photos came out at all.

    they have a succession of white spotlights, coupled with deep blue 'fill lighting', which means everything ends up with shadows cast left, right and centre.

    a great experience, but troublesome to capture.

  • Journeyer23/12/2008 at 03:53

    they have a succession of white spotlights, coupled with deep blue ‘fill lighting’, which means everything ends up with shadows cast left, right and centre.

    The shadows added a bit of mystique to it, so it's not as bad as you think it is.

    But what was really amazing for me was how you got some great angles and came up with something new for me as someone who sees those cars regularly.

  • Journeyer23/12/2008 at 03:56

    a great experience, but troublesome to capture.

    Now only if we had them F1 museums here... :(

  • me23/12/2008 at 03:59

    Now only if we had them F1 museums here…

    aww. you need to keep reminding us, because it's so easy to forget.

    after to reading all the donington news today, it occurred to me that there's been no mention of what will happen to the donington collection?

    we know it's in the way in its current location, but will it get moved, or removed, in the quest to host the bgp?

    we only visited the place last year, but i'm thinking we ought go again very soon, just in case.

  • Journeyer23/12/2008 at 04:26

    aww. you need to keep reminding us, because it’s so easy to forget.

    but hey, i got to go to singapore because it's cheaper from where i am compared to from where you are. all is fair.

    we know it’s in the way in it’s current location, but will it get moved, or removed, in the quest to host the bgp?

    it'll probably get moved somewhere nearby. don't worry, they'll take good care of it; those cars just have way too much value for them not to.

  • me23/12/2008 at 05:28

    must read interview from max today on f1.com:

    http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2008/12/8797.html

    "Q: The FIA recently announced measures to make stewards’ decisions more transparent from next season. What prompted this change?"

    "A: This change was prompted because people were criticising the stewards’ decisions without having the information which the stewards had. The obvious way to deal with this is to make that information generally available. Once people understand why a decision was made, they will be less likely to disagree with it and any criticism will be informed rather than uninformed."

    this has been obvious to anyone with half a brain for many a year, but i love how max has swung it, as if to suggest we're at fault for not having all the information available to us!

  • Scott in Italy (now with added Australianisms)23/12/2008 at 06:34

    Mark Webber says some F1 races were boring. The article has some quotes from Webber about the races, but nothing too much, and no update on how rehab is going.

  • Scott in Italy (now with added Australianisms)23/12/2008 at 06:36

    must read interview from max today on f1.com:...

    interesting that we have had max and bernie these last few days - time to push agendas i guess becuase people like us are desperate for anything f1 related.

    Max Mosley: The withdrawal of Honda was a surprise. They were good enough to inform us in confidence four days before announcing it...

    but yet the drivers had to wait until the media reported it? am i right in saying this? sounds a little harsh if you ask me.

  • me23/12/2008 at 10:14

    but yet the drivers had to wait until the media reported it? am i right in saying this? sounds a little harsh if you ask me.

    well, that what they say. but that may have been to keep the employees happy.

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:11

    “Last night, why were you singing about 5 Massive spins?”

    My sides still hurt from laughing about it {Gavin Brown - can't be bothered to count how many comments ago}

    Did you explain to her that Massa's Silverstone spins were Massive?

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:13

    Is it too early to renew one’s vows after eight months? {Christine}

    Not if you want to get into the Guinness Book of Records. There was one American couple that got married 50 times. Quite remarkable considering that they only married each other...

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:27

    Maybe Eddie and Branson should go in together to buy honda. Virgin F1 would be a massively fun and insane team. {Dan Brunell - some time after Christine's comment}

    EJ did say back in 2002 (when Virgin Mobile sponsored Jordan F1) that "We bearded entrupeneurs have to stick together"...

  • littlepurplegoth23/12/2008 at 12:30

    Max Mosley: The withdrawal of Honda was a surprise. They were good enough to inform us in confidence four days before announcing it…

    Um. They may have told them there was a possiblility. But I very much doubt that they told them for certain four days ahead of their own workforce. For all their issues, Hondas business ethics are immaculate, parent co and shareholders first (along with backers/bank), then workforce etc.

    Unless Mx et al have a substantial holding?

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:39

    What kind of random number is that [17p] for phone credit? {Bassano Clapper}

    My guess is that it's their minimum call charge and that it's probably what they charge for one minute of standard calls (at least that's how it's calculated at Virgin, though their calls are only 15p per minute).

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:42

    Okay, Andy Talyor is out of the running for the second seat of the Osprey….Sorry Andy, But Christine wants the Pandas safe at all costs you know…. {Jordan Allen}

    What's wrong with using the TARDIS to transport pandas and just use the plane for transporting people (when we need to make a statement/impression)? The pandas will only be in the TARDIS when they get put in the car anyway, they might as well get used to it...

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:43

    it’s possible he could be really really really lost. {lou}

    It's possible he could have boarded at Chesterfield station, as their train listings have been broken for the last week. The number of times I've been at risk of getting on the Derby train instead of the Nottingham one is scary.

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:44

    Do the adblock plugins work in FF3 now? {Bassano Clapper}

    There is a version of AdBlockerPlus that works with FF3 now, though it took them a while to get round to it. Reminded me of just how much I detest adverts. Wish Dad would install that plugin on his computer...

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 12:49

    There is a version of AdBlockerPlus that works with FF3 now, though it took them a while to get round to it. Reminded me of just how much I detest adverts. Wish Dad would install that plugin on his computer…

    Maybe it's time to switch then

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:49

    Doubt it, look at the iPlayer {Bassano Clapper}

    At least it plays streaming in sequence and only occasionally stalls. Which is a lot more than I can say for ITV's offering.

  • Bassano Clapper23/12/2008 at 12:52

    At least it plays streaming in sequence and only occasionally stalls. Which is a lot more than I can say for ITV’s offering.

    Now the F1's gone, I've no reason to watch ITV anymore :D

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:56

    And Alianora… wow, made me think of the 78s on shellac that were on the radio the other day {littlepurplegoth - 151 comments ago}

    *blushes*

    Maybe I should try singing more often...

  • Alianora La Canta23/12/2008 at 12:59

    we’re gonna need a smaller helicopeter. {me - 120 comments ago}

    There's a remote control helicopter in the model shop in Nottingham for £30. Will that do?

  • Jordan Allen (I knew the awards show was fixed!)23/12/2008 at 14:37

    Alianora La Canta said:

    Okay, Andy Talyor is out of the running for the second seat of the Osprey….Sorry Andy, But Christine wants the Pandas safe at all costs you know…. {Jordan Allen}

    What’s wrong with using the TARDIS to transport pandas and just use the plane for transporting people (when we need to make a statement/impression)? The pandas will only be in the TARDIS when they get put in the car anyway, they might as well get used to it…

    Someone keeps getting lost in the TARDIS and the only way we seem to be able to track them down is to wait until a memeber of the public calls us to inquire "Where did this Police Box come from?"

  • Jordan Allen (I knew the awards show was fixed!)23/12/2008 at 14:38

    Alianora La Canta said:

    we’re gonna need a smaller helicopeter. {me - 120 comments ago}

    There’s a remote control helicopter in the model shop in Nottingham for £30. Will that do?

    Go big or go home, folks......

  • me23/12/2008 at 14:40

    Go big or go home, folks……

    :)

  • Jordan Allen (I knew the awards show was fixed!)23/12/2008 at 14:44

    December 23rd, 2008 at 12:59

    Alianora La Canta said:

    we’re gonna need a smaller helicopeter. {me - 120 comments ago}

    There’s a remote control helicopter in the model shop in Nottingham for £30. Will that do?

    Speaking about Helicopeters, Did anyone find out where Lou landed with my knapsnack, yet? :P

  • lou23/12/2008 at 16:18

    What’s wrong with using the TARDIS to transport pandas and just use the plane for transporting people (when we need to make a statement/impression)? The pandas will only be in the TARDIS when they get put in the car anyway, they might as well get used to it…

    i'm not flying a TARDIS... unless it's easier than an Osprey :P

  • Jordan Allen (Everyone off the sidewalsk now! A Sidepodcast tour is about to start!)23/12/2008 at 16:26

    lou said:

    What’s wrong with using the TARDIS to transport pandas and just use the plane for transporting people (when we need to make a statement/impression)? The pandas will only be in the TARDIS when they get put in the car anyway, they might as well get used to it…

    i’m not flying a TARDIS… unless it’s easier than an Osprey

    Er, Lou, before you bail-out again, run to the parachute first, then run to the door. You had the order switched....

    Second. Kindly return my knapsnack that you may have thought was a parachute.....

    Third. Never again freak out about the red intercomm light going off. First you got me using very colourful language, and becasue the intercomm was on, the Panda got very upset.