Friday at last, and it is just one week until we will be discussing the goings on in Free Practice. I know many of you out there are about to pop with excitement (me too) but there's still plenty going on to keep as amused as we count down the hours.

  • The testing times dropped rapidly yesterday, and although Nakajima edged out Heikki by the end of the day, the McLaren had at last managed to catch up with some of the faster times of the week. Does this mean they have fixed the problem? Or were they just running some last ditch efforts to try and improve their image before the season begins?
  • Webber has added another voice to the points change, saying that it was an unneccessary decision but will probably lead more drivers to take risks for wins. Like most others, he understands the thinking behind the change but wouldn't have implemented it if he'd been in charge.
  • We're watching Sebring closely, as neither Audi or Peugeot claimed pole position in qualifying, but Franck did post the fastest time in night practice. What do you mean this is an F1 website? Shh.

As per usual on a Friday, feel free to share your weekend plans, if you're up to anything exciting. We'll be, erm, watching Sebring, so expect some live commenting coming soon. It'll be good practice for next weekend. Until then, I'll see you in the comments.

598 responses

  • Rob20/03/2009 at 09:26

    will probably lead more drivers to take risks for wins

    Sounds like he's talking about Hamilton to me...

    The lad doesn't need a reason to drive crazy, should be great to watch tho :D

  • Alex20/03/2009 at 09:27

    I'm hoping the McLaren has truly been fixed. Hamilton '09!!!

  • Maverick20/03/2009 at 09:38

    will probably lead more drivers to take risks for wins

    I can't wait until until the best drivers who fight for wins take each other off the track and the win goes to someone who was just coasting around staying out of trouble.

  • Alex20/03/2009 at 09:40

    I can’t wait until until the best drivers who fight for wins take each other off the track and the win goes to someone who was just coasting around staying out of trouble.

    You mean a bit like Kovy's win last year? Or Massa's belgium win?

  • me20/03/2009 at 10:03

    I can’t wait until until the best drivers who fight for wins take each other off the track and the win goes to someone who was just coasting around staying out of trouble.

    :D

  • Jeremy20/03/2009 at 10:07

    I can’t wait until until the best drivers who fight for wins take each other off the track and the win goes to someone who was just coasting around staying out of trouble.

    In Australia, we call that doing a Steven Bradbury. It's a winter olympics reference.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Bradbury

  • Maverick20/03/2009 at 10:09

    You mean a bit like Kovy’s win last year? Or Massa’s belgium win?

    Something like that. Something like that, perhaps everyone will have KERS failure in Oz (they're only pretending they don't want to use it) and Sutil will trundle home in first.

    Talking of KERS - was a very interesting talk last night. Particularly in terms of braking effects.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 10:11

    I can’t wait until until the best drivers who fight for wins take each other off the track and the win goes to someone who was just coasting around staying out of trouble.

    In Australia, we call that doing a Steven Bradbury. It’s a winter olympics reference.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Bradbury

    That guy sounds like an absolute Legend!

    Thanks Jeremy!

  • Maverick20/03/2009 at 10:12

    In Australia, we call that doing a Steven Bradbury. It’s a winter olympics reference.

    Ah, I remember Bradbury. Should have thought of him the first time Bernie mentioned medals really.

  • Jeremy20/03/2009 at 10:15

    That guy sounds like an absolute Legend!

    Isn't it one of the best stories ever? I didn't know about his current motor racing efforts when I posted the link. What a nice tie in.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 10:41

    Morning everyone.

    Hope it hasn't been as much of a waste of time for you as it was for me.

  • me20/03/2009 at 10:44

    Hope it hasn’t been as much of a waste of time for you as it was for me.

    i've been up 10 minutes. i'm good but not that good :)

    what happened?

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 10:50

    what happened?

    Got up at 5am.

    Got in the hire car at 5:30am *new Vauxhall Insignia - it's not bad actually*

    Drove almost all the way up the M1...

    Got a phone call from the office - meeting cancelled.

    Drove home again.

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 10:53

    I'm liking the Google picture today:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/google-png

    Hungry Caterpillar!

  • me20/03/2009 at 10:56

    Hungry Caterpillar!

    very hungry caterpillar!

    :)

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 11:03

    Hungry Caterpillar!

    A Rock Opera was made of that book. :D

    Youtubeylink

  • Dank20/03/2009 at 11:11

    Autosport.com will be down from 23:30 this evening for four hours as they shift servers. Just in case anybody queries it later!

  • Maverick20/03/2009 at 11:26

    Hungry Caterpillar!

    My daughter hates the Hungry Caterpillar - it bit her!

    Those holes in the book are quite nasty if you've got little fingers.

  • Rob20/03/2009 at 11:28

    My daughter hates the Hungry Caterpillar - it bit her!

    Oh no! I loved that book!

    Hamilton's view on the rule changes:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7954755.stm

  • Rob20/03/2009 at 11:32

    This is my highlight:

    "For the first time in recent years we have the teams, drivers, sponsors and fans all working together for the good of our sport - now we just need the governing bodies to listen to us and help us."

  • Amy20/03/2009 at 11:34

    I thought he "had no opinion"

  • Journeyer20/03/2009 at 11:42

    I thought he “had no opinion”

    Not until his PR team had managed to make one for him.

    Or it could be that he really does hate them, but he was waiting for what others had to say first. That way, it doesn't look like he was hitting out at something that wouldn't favor him, and so that there's less chance of any... "repercussions"... from Paris.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 11:44

    I thought he “had no opinion”

    Not until his PR team had managed to make one for him.

    Or it could be that he really does hate them, but he was waiting for what others had to say first. That way, it doesn’t look like he was hitting out at something that wouldn’t favor him, and so that there’s less chance of any… “repercussions”… from Paris.

    This man has the worst PR Manager on the entire planet! Even when he says something valid and with merit, he still gets criticized!

  • Amy20/03/2009 at 11:46

    I think it's the first. Because he has been part of the McLaren family for so long, his media skills have been overly polished to the point where he comes across as a PR puppet. I almost fell off my seat when he said 's***' in that video from Radio 1.

  • Dank20/03/2009 at 11:47

    This man has the worst PR Manager on the entire planet! Even when he says something valid and with merit, he still gets criticized!

    Matt Bishop doing his job well then!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 11:48

    This man has the worst PR Manager on the entire planet! Even when he says something valid and with merit, he still gets criticized!

    Matt Bishop doing his job well then!

    Oh, don't get me started on that guy!

  • me20/03/2009 at 11:49

    Oh, don’t get me started on that guy!

    ahh, go on. am guessing renault-gate and ralf-gate?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 11:50

    Oh, don’t get me started on that guy!

    ahh, go on. am guessing renault-gate and ralf-gate?

    I'm not sure what you are referring to here?

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 11:51

    ahh, go on. am guessing renault-gate and ralf-gate?

    i know about ralf-gate, but whats renault-gate?

  • Dank20/03/2009 at 11:52

    I’m not sure what you are referring to here?

    Well Ralf and 'The Bish' (rubbish nickname ahoy) got on like a house-on-fire a few years ago in an interview I seem to recall.

  • me20/03/2009 at 11:54

    I’m not sure what you are referring to here?

    renault-gate: it is alleged that matt bishop was the man who sent out the mclaren press release suggesting renault had many megabytes of mclaren data on a handfull floppy disks. despite the fact any fool knows you'd struggle to get more than one image on those things.

    mclaren later redacted the statement. gimmie a sec, i'll dig out some references. the keyword is "alleged" mind you!

  • me20/03/2009 at 11:56

    Well Ralf and ‘The Bish’ (rubbish nickname ahoy) got on like a house-on-fire a few years ago in an interview I seem to recall.

    correct. f1 racing (which he then edited?) publish a two page essay describing how matt told ralf where to shove it.

    crude.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 11:56

    I’m not sure what you are referring to here?

    renault-gate: it is alleged that matt bishop was the man who sent out the mclaren press release suggesting renault had many megabytes of mclaren data on a handfull floppy disks. despite the fact any fool knows you’d struggle to get more than one image on those things.

    mclaren later redacted the statement. gimmie a sec, i’ll dig out some references. the keyword is “alleged” mind you!

    Ah. I did have that in mind. What about 'ralf-gate'?

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 12:00

    Ah. I did have that in mind. What about ‘ralf-gate’?

    if you werent refering to ralf/renault-gate then what were you refering too?

  • me20/03/2009 at 12:02

    okay, this is where i think the story broke:

    "A leaked briefing memo from McLaren on the so-called 'Renault-gate' affair seen by The Times claims that Renault had more than 780 individual drawings..."

    "Phil Mackereth, the former McLaren engineer who joined Renault in March 2006, had taken with him several old-style floppy disks containing McLaren technical drawings."

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2926221.ece

    you can get maybe one or two drawings on a floppy disks (if there really small)! it's rumoured matt b. was the man who hit "send" on that release.

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 12:03

    you can get maybe one or two drawings on a floppy disks (if there really small)! it’s rumoured matt b. was the man who hit “send” on that release.

    A floppy what now?

  • me20/03/2009 at 12:04

    A floppy what now?

    heheheh :)

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 12:05

    Completely unrelated....

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7953777.stm

    ....i'm saying nothing....

  • me20/03/2009 at 12:05

    Ah. I did have that in mind. What about ‘ralf-gate’?

    the article was called: "A Grotesque Rictus of Disgruntlement". more details here:

    http://www.formula1blog.com/2007/08/25/ralf-vs-bishop-paddock-world/

  • me20/03/2009 at 12:06

    if you werent refering to ralf/renault-gate then what were you refering too?

    good question?

    i have nothing against the guy, mind you. two mistakes in all those years is hardly worth hanging the guy over. gavin?

  • me20/03/2009 at 12:06

    ….i’m saying nothing….

    you offering?

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 12:08

    you offering?

    she says shes been honest with all the people shes met, saying that she's told them she wants to get married in 3 months....that would scare the life out of most guys and make them run for the hills :P

  • Journeyer20/03/2009 at 12:08

    A floppy what now?

    Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. You've just made Matt B look like an utter fool. :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 12:17

    Ah. I did have that in mind. What about ‘ralf-gate’?

    if you werent refering to ralf/renault-gate then what were you refering too?

    I wasn't keen on him as the editor of 'F1 Racing' and his mega-overuse of the word 'mega'.

    Everything was mega. Even being mega was mega. Mega mega mega mega!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 12:19

    if you werent refering to ralf/renault-gate then what were you refering too?

    good question?

    i have nothing against the guy, mind you. two mistakes in all those years is hardly worth hanging the guy over. gavin?

    I'm not hanging the guy - I just think that F1 Racing was better when Hans Seeberg became editior.

  • me20/03/2009 at 12:23

    I’m not hanging the guy - I just think that F1 Racing was better when Hans Seeberg became editior.

    agreed :)

  • Journeyer20/03/2009 at 12:32

    I’m not hanging the guy - I just think that F1 Racing was better when Hans Seeberg became editor.

    Many were skeptical of Hans at first - didn't he come from... was it Nuts or one of the other tabloids? He's proven himself ever since. Methinks he was already a big F1 fan before he even came over. Perhaps Stuart would wish to shed more light on this? ;)

  • me20/03/2009 at 12:35

    new names for singapore corners:

    - sheares

    - memorial

    - singapore sling

    no corners named after musicians that are named after food??

    :(

    linkage - http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/73798

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 12:37

    new names for singapore corners:

    - sheares

    - memorial

    - singapore sling

    no corners named after musicians that are named after food??

    :(

    linkage - http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/73798

    Where's the '5 Pints of Awesome' Corner?

  • me20/03/2009 at 12:37

    Where’s the ‘5 Pints of Awesome’ Corner?

    in turkey.

  • Journeyer20/03/2009 at 12:41

    in turkey.

    Ha! Will that be Turn 8's new name? One pint per apex! Mind you, if they take that seriously, the drivers won't make it past 1 lap, never mind the whole race! :P

    A shame I didn't win, though. I thought I had a pretty cool name for Turn 10 - Merdeka, considering all the historical aura of the area around that turn. Singapore Sling is more appropriate for the Turn 6 kink - that's the best place on the track to get a slingshot! :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 12:43

    in turkey.

    Ha! Will that be Turn 8’s new name? One pint per apex! Mind you, if they take that seriously, the drivers won’t make it past 1 lap, never mind the whole race! :P

    A shame I didn’t win, though. I thought I had a pretty cool name for Turn 10 - Merdeka, considering all the historical aura of the area around that turn. Singapore Sling is more appropriate for the Turn 6 kink - that’s the best place on the track to get a slingshot! :)

    Is turn 10 where Kimi crashed? If so, highly appropriate to name the corner after an alcoholic drink! :-)

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 13:53

    Not sure I've ever said this on here before but: omg!

    The Preview Quotes are starting to appear :)

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 13:54

    The Preview Quotes are starting to appear :)

    did they not before :/

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 13:56

    did they not before :/

    You've seen some already?

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 13:58

    You’ve seen some already?

    I cant remember really, if its the same thing we're talking about i vaugely remembering seeing them, but dont use the preview button very often, so i may be wrong....but i thinks i've seen them....

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 13:59

    I cant remember really, if its the same thing we’re talking about i vaugely remembering seeing them, but dont use the preview button very often, so i may be wrong….but i thinks i’ve seen them….

    Ah, no, I'm talking about Australia preview quotes.

    Eg: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73803

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 14:01

    Ah, no, I’m talking about Australia preview quotes.

    haha, thats funnny, totally barking up the wrong tree!!! thats funny

  • me20/03/2009 at 14:15

    The Preview Quotes are starting to appear :)

    w00t!

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 14:31

    May I have this baby animal instead?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7951331.stm

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 14:33

    May I have this baby animal instead?

    Nellie the elephant pack her trunk and said goodbye to the circus, off she went with a trumpety trump trump trump trump....

  • me20/03/2009 at 14:33

    May I have this baby animal instead?

    you're not having one.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 14:35

    May I have this baby animal instead?

    Well, it won't suffer with sunburn if it lives in the UK...

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 14:36

    Well, it won’t suffer with sunburn if it lives in the UK…

    Yes, exactly, see, it's a completely selfless act.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 14:37

    Yes, exactly, see, it’s a completely selfless act.

    No-one allergic to peanuts?

    However - think of the size of poop-scoop you'd need!

  • me20/03/2009 at 14:37

    Well, it won’t suffer with sunburn if it lives in the UK…

    oh for goodness sake, who's side are you on!

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 14:39

    oh for goodness sake, who’s side are you on!

    I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I may incriminate myself. :D

  • lou20/03/2009 at 14:40

    May I have this baby animal instead?

    awww!! :D where would you keep it though?

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 14:41

    awww!! :D where would you keep it though?

    Well, the bath will have an otter in it, so maybe the elephant could stay in the bathroom and they could keep each other company.

  • lou20/03/2009 at 14:42

    Well, the bath will have an otter in it, so maybe the elephant could stay in the bathroom and they could keep each other company.

    oh cool, that's sorted then ;) how big is your bathroom though? what happens when the baby elephant grows up?

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 14:42

    oh cool, that’s sorted then ;) how big is your bathroom though? what happens when the baby elephant grows up?

    I do not keep adult animals. It will have to go back.

  • lou20/03/2009 at 14:43

    actually aren't elephants loud? wouldn't that make podcasting difficult?

  • lou20/03/2009 at 14:43

    do not keep adult animals. It will have to go back.

    :D

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 14:45

    actually aren’t elephants loud? wouldn’t that make podcasting difficult?

    Ah, I hadn't thought of that. Rats.

  • lou20/03/2009 at 14:47

    Ah, I hadn’t thought of that. Rats.

    i think baby pandas are quiet, as are otters. So you can still have them ;)

  • Kris20/03/2009 at 14:48

    actually aren’t elephants loud? wouldn’t that make podcasting difficult?

    Are we talking about pink baby elephants by any chance?

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 14:49

    Are we talking about pink baby elephants by any chance?

    Apparently I am not allowed one.

  • Kris20/03/2009 at 14:51

    Apparently I am not allowed one.

    Its certainly cute... but the whole living in the middle of africa might make it a tad difficult for you to persuade it to come back with you...

    Having said that, when reading the article about it being at risk of dying from the sunshine, my initial response was "bring it over here then." too

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 15:00

    Its certainly cute… but the whole living in the middle of africa might make it a tad difficult for you to persuade it to come back with you…

    Leave a trail of small buns?

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 15:03

    Leave a trail of small buns?

    :)

  • Scott Woodwiss20/03/2009 at 15:54

    Afternoon all

    For those who have been wondering where I've been, I've not had a chance to get to a computer until now (in the library), so don't worry, I haven't gone away and you haven't scared me away! :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 15:55

    Afternoon all

    For those who have been wondering where I’ve been, I’ve not had a chance to get to a computer until now (in the library), so don’t worry, I haven’t gone away and you haven’t scared me away! :P

    W00t!!! He's baaaack!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 15:56

    Afternoon all

    For those who have been wondering where I’ve been, I’ve not had a chance to get to a computer until now (in the library), so don’t worry, I haven’t gone away and you haven’t scared me away! :P

    Dude, you've been away almost as long as Gonda!

  • RG20/03/2009 at 15:56

    For those who have been wondering where I’ve been, I’ve not had a chance to get to a computer until now (in the library), so don’t worry, I haven’t gone away and you haven’t scared me away!

    We must have gone wrong somewhere ;) Nice to see you still love sidepodcast, I was getting scared when you weren't on the Panel ;)

    Hi all. Guess who's only gone and pulled a muscle.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/03/2009 at 15:57

    Hi all. Guess who’s only gone and pulled a muscle.

    Which muscle?

  • RG20/03/2009 at 16:01

    Which muscle?

    One of them in the thigh, I don't really know the muscles if I'm honest.

  • Chris (Vampire)20/03/2009 at 16:14

    Haven't seen anyone else mention this yet, but apparently FOTA claim that the new points system is invalid:

    http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45299&PO=45299

    Maybe we won't see the wins system implemented after all!

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 16:16

    Maybe we won’t see the wins system implemented after all!

    Oooh, they are fighting back.

  • Dirty Scarab20/03/2009 at 16:17

    Norbert Haug:

    "After our test results, we must get used to the fact that in Melbourne we will be in the last third of the starting order,"

    "Clearly we have to improve our technical package. This process needs time and it could be the start of the European season (before McLaren is competitive), perhaps even longer."

    So much for the sandbagging theory then...

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 16:19

    Chris (Vampire): 20/03/2009 at 16:14:30

    Haven’t seen anyone else mention this yet, but apparently FOTA claim that the new points system is invalid: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45299&PO=45299

    Maybe we won’t see the wins system implemented after all!

    Hmmm. Seems clear cut.

    How will the FIA wiggle out of it and get the rule applied?

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 16:21

    Maybe we won’t see the wins system implemented after all!

    haha, brilliant. Good stuff FOTA, hope this goes somewhere.

  • Joe in Florida20/03/2009 at 16:21

    Maybe we won’t see the wins system implemented after all!

    The winner take all is not bad, but I don't like the teams having this shoved down their throats. I favored a points systems of 12,8,6,5,4,3,2,1. But I can't recall being asked. Maybe too many beers on baord when the FIA called me.

  • me20/03/2009 at 16:23

    The winner take all is not bad, but I don’t like the teams having this shoved down their throats. I favored a points systems of 12,8,6,5,4,3,2,1. But I can’t recall being asked. Maybe too many beers on baord when the FIA called me.

    anyone think the FIA were aware of this and will have to fall in line, but will be happy too now that the headlines have been generated?

  • Dirty Scarab20/03/2009 at 16:26

    anyone think the FIA were aware of this and will have to fall in line, but will be happy too now that the headlines have been generated?

    That's disgraceful! Surely the FIA wouldn't stoop so low!

    (Yes, I am being sarcastic) ;)

  • Rob20/03/2009 at 16:28

    anyone think the FIA were aware of this and will have to fall in line, but will be happy too now that the headlines have been generated?

    Thats exactly what I was thinking. Just enough time for the FIA to make a plea in the press before Melbourne...

  • Joe in Florida20/03/2009 at 16:28

    Hey, Got a question for you all. Since there is no F1 in North America, should I go to the St. Pete GP, Indycar event. What I mean is....would you? ALMS will be there, but no Audi's nor Peugots.

  • Dirty Scarab20/03/2009 at 16:34

    Surely though the FIA can't implement yet another points system this late in the day (eg 12, 9, 7 etc). That's why the wins system is under scrutiny now.

    If this 'appeal' by FOTA holds up, then the only thing that can happen is that we revert back to the original scoring system, right?

  • Chris (Vampire)20/03/2009 at 16:36

    Yep. I'm starting to think this is just so that the FIA can get some headlines. Introduce a controvertial points system too late for the season, get loads of headlines, then change it back.

  • Rob20/03/2009 at 16:40

    Unless the FIA were being sincere and will accept the 12 9 7... as a compromise? FOTA sound like they are still trying to sell the idea and may accept it.

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 16:41

    anyone think the FIA were aware of this and will have to fall in line, but will be happy too now that the headlines have been generated?

    They aren't coming out of it looking good though. If they accept it, then they're admitting they were wrong, and if they force it through, then they're stepping all over FOTA who seem to be being perfectly reasonable.

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 16:44

    Haven’t seen anyone else mention this yet, but apparently FOTA claim that the new points system is invalid:

    hehe, nice one FOTA. :)

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 16:47

    Autosport says that Brawn are taking up last place in the pitlane because they are a new entrant and not taking over Honda.

    Darn it, this means my Teams Preview was in the wrong order.

  • Dirty Scarab20/03/2009 at 16:47

    They aren’t coming out of it looking good though

    When was the last time they came out of anything lookin' good?

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 16:51

    When was the last time they came out of anything lookin’ good?

    No, exactly, so why would they go ahead if they knew this in advance?

  • Chris Harland20/03/2009 at 16:51

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7955790.stm

    BBC are running the FOTA challenge to the new points system too.

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 16:52

    Autosport have picked it up too now.

  • Dirty Scarab20/03/2009 at 16:54

    This off season just keeps on throwing us curveballs.

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 16:55

    This off season just keeps on throwing us curveballs.

    I think we learnt last season it's never too late for drama in F1 :D

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 17:53

    BBC BREAKING NEWS

    Formula 1 looks set to scrap plans to introduce a new scoring system in 2009..

    Just appears on BBC News 24!

  • Joe20/03/2009 at 17:54

    lol FIA. Flipping morons.

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 17:54

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7955790.stm

    Now there's a webpage

    *waits for more news*

  • me20/03/2009 at 17:58

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7955790.stm

    Now there’s a webpage

    *waits for more news*

    the fia must've all gone home this time on a friday? if there's more news now, it's been pre-planned for a while, surely?

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 17:59

    Autosport are saying the new system will be postponed till 2010 and confirmed by FIA! Oh my gosh, this is excellent.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73810

    So... is it definitely off then?

  • me20/03/2009 at 17:59

    renault pre-season podcast with holly samos:

    http://www.ing-renaultf1.com/en/_2009/team/index.php#/team/mediadesk/podcasts/4178/

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:00

    Still be getting the pointless system in 2010, so nothing really massive to brag on about.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 18:00

    "The ‘winner takes all’ proposal made by the commercial rights holder (who had been told that the teams were in favour) was then approved."

    From the FIA statement....

    Seriously...whoever told him that must have good convincing skills!

  • Jackie20/03/2009 at 18:02

    Haha this would be Formula One without the annual mis-interpretation of the rules

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 18:02

    Still be getting the pointless system in 2010, so nothing really massive to brag on about.

    Whats to say they won't look at things after the season to compromise?

  • Jackie20/03/2009 at 18:02

    Haha this would be Formula One without the annual mis-interpretation of the rules

    I meant wouldn't :P

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 18:03

    Sorry, I should say TRY to compromise.

  • Joe20/03/2009 at 18:03

    It's still coming 2010 though, so it's not a big cause for celebration.

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:03

    Whats to say they won’t look at things after the season to compromise?

    Most likely its the FIA.

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:03

    from the beeb:

    "following Friday's protest from F1's teams, the FIA says it is prepared to defer the new system until 2010."

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:04

    fia statement in full:

    On 17 March, the FIA World Motor Sport Council unanimously rejected FOTA’s proposed amendment to the points system for the Formula One Drivers’ Championship. The ‘winner takes all’ proposal made by the commercial rights holder (who had been told that the teams were in favour) was then approved.

    If, for any reason, the Formula One teams do not now agree with the new system, its implementation will be deferred until 2010.

    http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/f1releases/2009/Pages/f1_points.aspx

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:06

    It’s still coming 2010 though, so it’s not a big cause for celebration.

    naah, it's just one big marketing ruse. it'll give people something (else) to talk about next weekend, but there's nothing to say the FIA won't change their minds before 2010.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 18:07

    Great.

    So we still get it as they have passed it - but they only can't implement it this year as the teams don't like it.

    Woo.... hoo....

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 18:07

    The FIA once again making itself look like a joke.

    Good news that we'll have a champion decided properly this year though. :)

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:08

    Good news that we’ll have a champion decided properly this year though. :)

    They'll find someway to mess it up

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:08

    The FIA once again making itself look like a joke.

    they really haven't. they've pushed the blame right onto bernie.

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 18:08

    Cmon guys don't be so negative. :(

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:09

    Cmon guys don’t be so negative. :(

    It's my way ;)

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:12

    Cmon guys don’t be so negative. :(

    i'm not. but then i wasn't when the "wins" system was announced. i said it was a marketing exercise then and i still say it is now.

    the fia are happy, bernie's happy, fans are happy. even the teams look like they've achieved something (although they really haven't).

    it's all good.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 18:12

    Cmon guys don’t be so negative. :(

    Still getting the stupid system

    WMSC only passed as they though the teams were behind it - strangely ignoring the fact that the FOTA has their own preposal.

    It's only been brought in as the FIA *and FOM it seems* believe that the wrong person won the championship last year.

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:13

    Still getting the stupid system

    not we aren't and not we never will.

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 18:14

    they really haven’t. they’ve pushed the blame right onto bernie.

    But the FIA put the rule in place, despite the fact their own rules said they couldn't?

    How could they have not known the teams weren't in favour?

    Even if it was done on purpose, it still makes them look like they don't know what they're doing...

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:14

    It’s only been brought in as the FIA *and FOM it seems* believe that the wrong person won the championship last year.

    disagree. it was brought in to create headlines. job done.

    now it's being reversed to create more headlines.

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:14

    not we aren’t and not we never will.

    I've seen some bad grammar ;)

    I don't know, we're probably as likely to get it as the FOTA proposal

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:15

    But the FIA put the rule in place, despite the fact their own rules said they couldn’t?

    and they knew that all along.

    How could they have not known the teams weren’t in favour?

    of course they knew.

    Even if it was done on purpose, it still makes them look like they don’t know what they’re doing…

    naah, not really. they've passed the buck onto the teams already.

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:15

    I’ve seen some bad grammar ;)

    oops!

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:16

    I don’t know, we’re probably as likely to get it as the FOTA proposal

    depends how the politics pans out during the season. if bernie divides and conquers as he plans too, there will likely be no change at all.

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 18:19

    naah, not really. they’ve passed the buck onto the teams already.

    Eh? Are you saying the FIA were trying to make FOTA look good? Or am I missing something...

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:21

    This man has the worst PR Manager on the entire planet! Even when he says something valid and with merit, he still gets criticized!

    People for some reason choose to take anything he says or does as a basis to criticise him. Had any other driver made those comments people would be saying that it was good to see another driver speak out. Instead because it is Hamilton he can't be praised without being kicked as well.

    Give the guy a break.

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:22

    Eh? Are you saying the FIA were trying to make FOTA look good? Or am I missing something…

    no.

    fia have said it was bernie's idea and then blamed the teams for giving him false info. we know that's likely not true, but what will be reported is what's in the press release.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:29

    actually aren’t elephants loud? wouldn’t that make podcasting difficult?

    It could hold the score board in its trunk. It can't make a noise and do that at the same time

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:31

    Haven’t seen anyone else mention this yet, but apparently FOTA claim that the new points system is invalid: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45299&PO=45299

    I hope Max has over-stepped his authority and loses this.

  • cian20/03/2009 at 18:31

    What a mess :(

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:33

    Surely though the FIA can’t implement yet another points system this late in the day (eg 12, 9, 7 etc). That’s why the wins system is under scrutiny now.

    They can if they get unanimity.

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:33

    What a mess :(

    nah. think of it as a system restore for formula 1. they're just gonna turn the clock back a couple of days and we'll carry on like nothing happened.

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 18:33

    If this was all done to generate headlines, then is has just made the sport look like it is run by indecisive idiots.

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:34

    If this was all done to generate headlines, then is has just made the sport look like it is run by indecisive idiots.

    but do they even care? and will anyone remember by monday?

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 18:34

    fia have said it was bernie’s idea and then blamed the teams for giving him false info. we know that’s likely not true, but what will be reported is what’s in the press release.

    But the FIA can't come out of this looking good?

    From a casual fans pov:

    -FIA introduce new championship winning rule thought up by Bernie that few people like.

    -FOTA say FIA made a mistake and bring back the old system that most people like.

    -FIA then blame everyone but themselves for getting their own rules wrong.

    I agree with you that the FIA probably set this up to get people talking about F1, but it still makes them look like fools?

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:35

    Autosport are saying the new system will be postponed till 2010 and confirmed by FIA! Oh my gosh, this is excellent.

    Great news. I wonder what Max's next stupid move will be.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 18:36

    It strikes me as strange that most rules don't have to be passed by teams too, atleast by a majority?!

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 18:36

    but do they even care? and will anyone remember by monday?

    It doesn't look like they do care, but they probably should. It's just another piece of evidence in the 'FIA are incompetent' file.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:37

    Whats to say they won’t look at things after the season to compromise?

    Hopefully one driver will rack up a lot of wins this season and that will convince Bernie and Max of the folly of their thinking.

  • cian20/03/2009 at 18:38

    nah. think of it as a system restore for formula 1. they’re just gonna turn the clock back a couple of days and we’ll carry on like nothing happened.

    True. All this messing about is just a bit....frustrating, lol. It'll be interesting to see how things play out.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 18:38

    Hopefully one driver will rack up a lot of wins this season and that will convince Bernie and Max of the folly of their thinking.

    its almost like they want that to happen...in the last 2 years, its been teh final race thats decided the title. 2007 1 point seperated 3 drivers and in 2008 it seperated 2. i dont tihnk its ever been that close!

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 18:38

    Hopefully one driver will rack up a lot of wins this season and that will convince Bernie and Max of the folly of their thinking.

    Especially if it's Lewis.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:42

    Of course it is possible that the wins system was only put out to take attention away from the 30 million budget cap. When it comes time to do something with that they can claim that there was nowhere near as much criticism of that as the winner takes all system therfore it must not be unpopular.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:43

    Especially if it’s Lewis.

    I hope

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 18:44

    I hope

    I just hope he gets the most points and the most wins, just to see the look on Bernies face.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 18:45

    I just hope he gets the most points and the most wins, just to see the look on Bernies face.

    actually, i would quite like a ferrari to get the most wins, but lewis to get hte most points :P

  • Dirty Scarab20/03/2009 at 18:46

    In the last hour, this article appeared on the official F1 website:

    http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2009/3/9035.html

    Quote: "For the first time in Formula One history, the drivers’ title will be decided on wins alone, with points used only to settle the lesser placings".

    It's odd that they should publish that now given the uncertainty over the scoring system.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 18:46

    It’s odd that they should publish that now given the uncertainty over the scoring system.

    how annoyed would you be if you'd just finished that article and then had to take it down

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 18:47

    It’s odd that they should publish that now given the uncertainty over the scoring system.

    The official F1 site is usually way behind everyone else anyway.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 18:48

    actually, i would quite like a ferrari to get the most wins, but lewis to get hte most points

    If that happens you can guarantee we will have a wins sstem in 2010

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 18:48

    At least all this shows (unless they planned to pull the idea all along) that the teams, media and fans have some kind of influence over the FIA.

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:49

    The official F1 site is usually way behind everyone else anyway.

    I'm scared to see GMM, they might still be covering the points change from 10-6-4-3-2-1 to 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 18:49

    If that happens you can guarantee we will have a wins sstem in 2010

    id like the ferrari to get the most wins but have rubbish reliability. that would be good

  • Dirty Scarab20/03/2009 at 18:50

    The official F1 site is usually way behind everyone else anyway.

    That's because they hand pick the news items and spin them in a way that makes the FIA sound good...

    Anyway, it looks like the wins idea will be scrapped. Just as I was getting used to the idea as well...

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 18:51

    Of course it is possible that the wins system was only put out to take attention away from the 30 million budget cap. When it comes time to do something with that they can claim that there was nowhere near as much criticism of that as the winner takes all system therfore it must not be unpopular.

    Ah, that could very well be true.

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:52

    Good news!

    David Croft is going to be on Fighting Talk tomorrow. Wonder why?

  • Dirty Scarab20/03/2009 at 18:54

    There have been more conspiracy theories posted today than when the fake moon landing people and the Area 51 people accidentally double booked the same convention hall. ;)

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:54

    True. All this messing about is just a bit….frustrating, lol. It’ll be interesting to see how things play out.

    it is, agreed. it's also a colossal waste of time.

    it does create good debate mind you.

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 18:54

    David Croft is going to be on Fighting Talk tomorrow. Wonder why?

    Cool, that should be worth a listen.

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:55

    Good news!

    David Croft is going to be on Fighting Talk tomorrow. Wonder why?

    ace!

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:55

    I knew I'd end up in the modqueue for meontining Fighting Talk

  • me20/03/2009 at 18:56

    There have been more conspiracy theories posted today than when the fake moon landing people and the Area 51 people accidentally double booked the same convention hall. ;)

    :D

    :D

  • cian20/03/2009 at 18:58

    it is, agreed. it’s also a colossal waste of time.

    it does create good debate mind you.

    lol, also true. Wise words Mr. C :P

  • RG20/03/2009 at 18:59

    Why is everything I say ending up in the mod queue?

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:00

    Why is everything I say ending up in the mod queue?

    no idea, i fix. have you been introduced to doohickey btw?

    less moderation, more chat. a better conversation mix :)

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 19:01

    Why is everything I say ending up in the mod queue?

    Because you can't be trusted

  • RG20/03/2009 at 19:01

    less moderation, more chat. a better conversation mix :)

    Intrestingly, thats what I was using.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:01

    Intrestingly, thats what I was using.

    bugger :(

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:02

    Because you can’t be trusted

    rg can't be trusted to charge a mobile phone. but we do trust him to comment :)

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 19:02
  • Jackie20/03/2009 at 19:03

    rg can’t be trusted to charge a mobile phone. but we do trust him to comment :)

    Haha oops, sorry for laughing RG

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:03

    FOM not the only ones sprucing up their graphics.

    i literally just dropiod:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/melbourne-circuit-map-png

  • RG20/03/2009 at 19:03

    Haha oops, sorry for laughing RG

    Don't worry, I laughed :)

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:03

    i literally just dropiod:

    by the way. why is there a giant french fancy in the drop??

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/1237574700402

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 19:04

    me: 20/03/2009 at 19:03:06

    FOM not the only ones sprucing up their graphics.

    i literally just dropiod:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/melbourne-circuit-map-png

    I was link through as an 'interactive' map.

    It's not interactive at all... other than looking and reading...

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:04

    Don’t worry, I laughed :)

    :)

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:05

    It’s not interactive at all… other than looking and reading…

    it is. try the on/off buttons.

  • Jackie20/03/2009 at 19:05

    by the way. why is there a giant french fancy in the drop??

    Someone was hungry? .. gosh I'll giggle at anything tonight doh!

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 19:06

    it is. try the on/off buttons.

    Does nothing for me. Although it could be that flash is broken on this machine.

  • Jackie20/03/2009 at 19:07

    btw the webcast of the KERS talk is available now http://tv.theiet.org/technology/transport/1304.cfm

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:07

    Does nothing for me. Although it could be that flash is broken on this machine.

    the buttons turn off various bits of data, although it's a master of understatement.

    i'll dropio an "off" piccy.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:08

    btw the webcast of the KERS talk is available now http://tv.theiet.org/technology/transport/1304.cfm

    yeah, we're waiting for flibster to make it mac friendly.

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 19:08

    it is. try the on/off buttons.

    That's stretching the concept of 'interactive' a little far

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 19:08

    by the way. why is there a giant french fancy in the drop??

    I thought you were talking about Franck before I saw the picture...

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 19:08

    btw the webcast of the KERS talk is available now http://tv.theiet.org/technology/transport/1304.cfm

    It was put up last week I think - I'm having great problems ripping the stream

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 19:09

    I thought you were talking about Franck before I saw the picture…

    hahaha

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:09

    That’s stretching the concept of ‘interactive’ a little far

    :D

  • Jackie20/03/2009 at 19:09

    I thought you were talking about Franck before I saw the picture…

    Excellent :D

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:10

    interactive map (off):

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/interactive-melbourne-map-off-png

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 19:11

    Turning on and off the racing line? Really?

    Loaded it on a different machine and can't really see the racing line unless I zoom in on the page so the circuit takes up all of my 24" monitor!

    Turning on and off the fencing?

    Pushing the boundaries of flash there chaps.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:12

    Pushing the boundaries of flash there chaps.

    :D

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 19:12

    A FIA spokesman told BBC Sport: "The new scoring system has been deferred until 2010, but I'm sure this will be reviewed throughout the course of the season as any new rule changes have to have teams approval before we proceed.

    "We're slightly surprised that the teams have taken this long to come forward as we were under the impression that they were happy with the rule changes."

    Who are they trying to kid?

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:13

    Who are they trying to kid?

    all about passing the blame.

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 19:16

    all about passing the blame.

    The buck has to stop somewhere, and I'm pretty sure FOTA won't be too happy with taking the blame. They have to see this as their first real victory over the FIA.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:20

    The buck has to stop somewhere, and I’m pretty sure FOTA won’t be too happy with taking the blame. They have to see this as their first real victory over the FIA.

    how is it a victory though? okay, i guess they stopped a dumb ruling, but their proposal wasn't accepted either.

    thus far the only thing that fota have achieved thus far, is allowing renault a freebie engine upgrade, and letting us hear more radio traffic during the race.

    they have no idea what they're up against, no clue at all.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:20

    thus far the only thing that fota have achieved thus far, is allowing renault a freebie engine upgrade, and letting us hear more radio traffic during the race.

    the keywords there were "thus" and "far" btw. not sure i made that clear enough ;)

  • chris evans20/03/2009 at 19:22

    how is it a victory though? okay, i guess they stopped a dumb ruling, but their proposal wasn’t accepted either.

    Maybe less a victory, more a..... stalemate in their favour? Their influence has changed an FIA decision so it's something.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:23

    Maybe less a victory, more a….. stalemate in their favour? Their influence has changed an FIA decision so it’s something.

    true. we'll have to see what happens at the next meeting and the one after that.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:27

    5livef1 just mentioned force india have a podcast coming out on monday:

    http://twitter.com/5LiveF1/statuses/1362106839

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 19:28

    5livef1 just mentioned force india have a podcast coming out on monday:

    No more... I don't have enough time in the day!

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:38

    No more… I don’t have enough time in the day!

    pat symonds just said on the podcast, that the OWG put the equivalent of about a weeks worth of research into this years aero regulations.

    yikes. i'd assumed it was much more.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:41

    pat symonds just said on the podcast, that the OWG put the equivalent of about a weeks worth of research into this years aero regulations.

    ten minutes further into the podcast, that "week" dropped to just 4 days of research.

    there's 15mins left to run on the show, am expecting to learn that the OWG didn't actually exist before the end!

  • cian20/03/2009 at 19:46

    4 days?! Quick research! Though they probably had a pretty good idea how to approach the issues before the OWG was even created.

  • Dank20/03/2009 at 19:46

    Possibly the silliest idea I've come up with in a while, but in for a penny in for a pound!

    http://betstobelgium.wordpress.com/

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 19:49

    pat symonds just said on the podcast, that the OWG put the equivalent of about a weeks worth of research into this years aero regulations.

    No wonder the cars look ugly.

    On week is just so amateurish. In this week's Autosport they are now claiming an overall drop of 15% in total downforce. A bit away from the targetted 50%. Someone at the FIA has to start taking sorting out the technical regs seriously.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:49

    4 days?! Quick research! Though they probably had a pretty good idea how to approach the issues before the OWG was even created.

    yeah, that's basically what he's saying. mostly they appeared to debunk myths prove some assumptions.

    also, presumably it didn't all happen during the same week? just guessing though.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 19:49

    ten minutes further into the podcast, that “week” dropped to just 4 days of research.

    They went for a coffee and drew the regs on a napkin.

  • me20/03/2009 at 19:50

    Possibly the silliest idea I’ve come up with in a while, but in for a penny in for a pound!

    http://betstobelgium.wordpress.com/

    possibly the best idea i ever did hear!

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 19:53

    Possibly the silliest idea I’ve come up with in a while, but in for a penny in for a pound!

    http://betstobelgium.wordpress.com/

    Are you seriously going to bet real money on the outcome of Melbourne. I still haven't Skyped a prediction because I haven't a clue. I certainly wouldn't bet until the second race when I had at least some idea what was going on.

    Best of luck with the plan though.

  • cian20/03/2009 at 19:53

    On week is just so amateurish. In this week’s Autosport they are now claiming an overall drop of 15% in total downforce. A bit away from the targetted 50%. Someone at the FIA has to start taking sorting out the technical regs seriously.

    Yeah I agree. It seems every time theres a reg change with regards to aero the FIA come out with a big headline figure like 50% dforce reduction. Then at the first race the new regs are implemented at they've recovered most of the downforce.

  • Dank20/03/2009 at 19:56

    possibly the best idea i ever did hear!

    I skimped on buying a proper domain name as it will probably be all over by next weekend!

  • Dank20/03/2009 at 19:57

    I certainly wouldn’t bet until the second race when I had at least some idea what was going on.

    The risk to reward ratio will be all the more higher though? Nobody really knows going into Melbourne what will happen so the odds are all over the shop at the moment.

  • cian20/03/2009 at 19:59

    Its a great idea :) I certainly look forward to following your blog!

  • Jackie20/03/2009 at 20:00

    I was told today that if you put 20 pounds on Trulli to win, you could come out with about 700 or 800 pounds, if you win all you need on the first race, is that the end of the blog?

  • me20/03/2009 at 20:01

    I was told today that if you put 20 pounds on Trulli to win, you could come out with about 700 or 800 pounds, if you win all you need on the first race, is that the end of the blog?

    he could upgrade to the paddock club :)

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 20:02

    Hmmm. I normally make money from the 1st race of the year.

    Last year I got the top 3 and won, well...

    This year though, I haven't got a ******* clue!

    Oh well, will come up with something.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 20:06

    Hmmm. I normally make money from the 1st race of the year.

    Last year I got the top 3 and won, well…

    You picked the top 3 of Hamilton, Heidfeld and Rosberg!?!! I need to buy you a drink, thats amazing!!!

  • Dank20/03/2009 at 20:08

    You picked the top 3 of Hamilton, Heidfeld and Rosberg!?!! I need to buy you a drink, thats amazing!!!

    Indeed! Flibster puts Mystic Meg to shame!

  • Jackie20/03/2009 at 20:09

    You picked the top 3 of Hamilton, Heidfeld and Rosberg!?!! I need to buy you a drink, thats amazing!!!

    More to the point have you done your predictions for the show?

  • RG20/03/2009 at 20:10

    Indeed! Flibster puts Mystic Meg to shame!

    In the prediction league I do, I had Raikkonen, Hamilton and Rosberg. No one got the top 3 at all right.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 20:23

    We need to get to grips with the ALMS. I thought last night's session was the last but according to Autosport they have sneaked in another session.

    Audi finished 1-2 with McNish's car in front followed by Franck's car in 3rd and deFerran's Acura(Honda) in 4th. Klien's car doesn't even get a mention in the article but I assume it was 5th.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73808

  • me20/03/2009 at 20:38

    We need to get to grips with the ALMS. I thought last night’s session was the last but according to Autosport they have sneaked in another session.

    how much practice do they need??

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 20:39

    how much practice do they need??

    Klien needs a lot.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 20:39

    how much practice do they need??

    lots....apparently...

  • RG20/03/2009 at 20:39

    Klien needs a lot.

    :(

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 20:41

    http://www.speedtv.com/programs/american-le-mans-series-on-board-pass/

    Details of Speed's coverage. Live streaming link on next comment to avoid moderation queue.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 20:42

    Speed live stream

    http://almsacura.globalmediaservices.tv/

  • cian20/03/2009 at 20:43

    Its on Motors Tv on sky aswell. theyre going to have a season preview at 1, race at 2.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 20:49

    Its on Motors Tv on sky aswell.

    aaah, i am jealous of people who have Motors TV, i would like it quite alot. its my type of channel. 24-7 racing :D

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 20:50

    You picked the top 3 of Hamilton, Heidfeld and Rosberg!?!! I need to buy you a drink, thats amazing!!!

    I went with gut feeling last year - year before I actually did some research and made an educated guess. Got the race winner quite hapilly

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 20:51

    Just checked the wiki and discovered that no-one has signed up to be a panellist for Sunday's sidepodpanel. I know we will get enough people. If you want to be on the panel sign up at http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Next+Week's+Panellists

  • cian20/03/2009 at 20:51

    aaah, i am jealous of people who have Motors TV, i would like it quite alot. its my type of channel. 24-7 racing

    It's good alright. But they've lost a lot of stuff like Le Mans, BTCC and Aussie V8's I think. Theres an awful lot of filler unfortunately.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 20:51

    aaah, i am jealous of people who have Motors TV, i would like it quite alot. its my type of channel. 24-7 racing :D

    It's alright. A lot of the programs are french and then badly dubbed. :D

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 20:55

    It’s good alright. But they’ve lost a lot of stuff like Le Mans, BTCC and Aussie V8’s I think. Theres an awful lot of filler unfortunately.

    yer, im happy with the club motorsport stuff to be honest. le mans i would like though, caught the first half hour on some sort of channel on freeview last year, and then it cut out. was so annoyed. had to settle for Radio Le Mans to tell me everything!

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 21:06

    The drunken fighting has started early tonight. Not even 10pm yet.

    However, it's currently a screaming catfight. They look to be all of 15 or 16 years old...

    I'm sure I didn't so anything like this when I was their age. *many years ago*

  • me20/03/2009 at 21:09

    yer, im happy with the club motorsport stuff to be honest. le mans i would like though, caught the first half hour on some sort of channel on freeview last year, and then it cut out. was so annoyed. had to settle for Radio Le Mans to tell me everything!

    you shoulda joined in the live commenting, we had streaming video through most of the race, i think.

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 21:16

    What is wrong with the F1 media?

    Every news site covering Max's latest farce are running headlines like "FIA willing to postpone new rule" or "FIA happy to defer new rule".

    The FIA is not remotely happy. They are being forced into this because they broke their own rules. Is the price of a press pass that everything gets a spin that avoids offending Max?

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 21:32

    Every news site covering Max’s latest farce are running headlines like “FIA willing to postpone new rule” or “FIA happy to defer new rule”.

    Have just posted F1 Minute with "FIA Back Down Over Championship Changes"

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 21:40

    The FIA is not remotely happy. They are being forced into this because they broke their own rules. Is the price of a press pass that everything gets a spin that avoids offending Max?

    I wouldn't want to be anywhere near Bernie right now either.

    By the way - this weeks Private Eye has their take on Max's appearance at the Parliamentary Committee last week. I won't repeat it here as the Eye has better lawyers than Christine and me ;)

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 22:05

    There is nothing better than an ice cold lemonade, a large blue fillet steak, triple cooked chips, onion rings and steamed veg.

    I know it's late, bit it's beautifiul. :D

  • RG20/03/2009 at 22:08

    I know it’s late, bit it’s beautifiul. :D

    Oh my god do I hate you right now ;)

  • Lukeh20/03/2009 at 22:09

    There is nothing better than an ice cold lemonade, a large blue fillet steak, triple cooked chips, onion rings and steamed veg.

    Just gonna try and get my jaw off my laptop after it dropped reading how gorgeous that sounds.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 22:13

    Oh my god do I hate you right now

    :D

    Just gonna try and get my jaw off my laptop after it dropped reading how gorgeous that sounds.

    Triple cooked chips - the one thing that Heston Blumenthal does that I can do easily in the kitchen. Absolutely perfect.

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 22:14

    There is nothing better than an ice cold lemonade, a large blue fillet steak, triple cooked chips, onion rings and steamed veg.

    Why is it blue?

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 22:14

    Triple cooked chips - the one thing that Heston Blumenthal does that I can do easily in the kitchen. Absolutely perfect.

    Triple cooked chips!? What are they?!

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:16

    Triple cooked chips!? What are they?!

    chips cooked three times, the clue is in the name ;)

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:17

    Why is it blue?

    It's almost raw, it may have been near a source of heat for maybe 30 seconds

  • Bassano+Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:20

    Why is it blue?

    "Cooked very quickly; the outside is seared, but the inside is usually cool and barely cooked"

    I prefer mine a bit rosy on the inside... and warm :D

  • Bassano+Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:22

    Or, my favourite

    "steak so rare, a good vet could bring it back to life!"

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 22:23

    Triple cooked chips!? What are they?!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/heston_blumenthal/article631377.ece

    Why is it blue?

    Almost mooing. ;)

    Otherwise knows as Aussie style

    Cut it's horns off, shave it, wipe it's nose and bum and stick it on my plate.

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:26

    “steak so rare, a good vet could bring it back to life!”

    :D

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:29

    I completely forgot to mention my personal Sidepodspace update: Saw the ISS and Shuttle twice this evening :D

  • Bassano+Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:31

    While we're on updates I have some SidepodSpeedtape for Mr C

    Though Lord only knows what he'll use it for :D

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 22:32

    While we’re on updates I have some SidepodSpeedtape for Mr C

    Though Lord only knows what he’ll use it for :D

    Spacesuit for panda?

  • Bassano+Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:33

    Spacesuit for panda?

    Could be :)

  • Bassano+Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:34

    Now I've got a + in my name

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 22:34

    I completely forgot to mention my personal Sidepodspace update: Saw the ISS and Shuttle twice this evening :D

    The best sighting for a while is 7:20 pm tomorrow night. Even in my part of the far north it is visible for 5 minutes.

    Details here http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/index.html

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:34

    Spacesuit for panda?

    Did we cover the teddies in space project?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/cambridgeshire/content/image_galleries/teddy_space_gallery.shtml

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 22:34

    Did we cover the teddies in space project?

    Yes

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:36

    Yes

    Bah. Getting old

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:40

    I've just been doing some window shopping for a new lens (Lou will like this one as it's only £198) and was tickled to see this:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/picture-2-png

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 22:41

    Have another flying bear story

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1pIO4_lUY

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:41

    I’ve just been doing some window shopping for a new lens (Lou will like this one as it’s only £198) and was tickled to see this:

    I love Friday internet delivery promises

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:43

    Have another flying bear story

    Christine, don't click!

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 22:44

    Christine, don’t click!

    Ok.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:45

    Now I’ve got a + in my name

    Gone now, I had DD & old skool doohickey open simultaneously before so wonder if that's why

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 22:45

    Christine, don’t click!

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The bear was fine and it is not even a panda.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 22:46

    Have another flying bear story

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1pIO4_lUY

    LOL!

    I'm in pain - can't breathe..

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 22:46

    Ok.

    Are you not just slightly curious?

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:46

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The bear was fine and it is not even a panda.

    It looks a lot worse though, plus we only have their word for it. The bear obviously unavailable for comment.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:48

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The bear was fine and it is not even a panda.

    After that face plant?

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 22:49

    Are you not just slightly curious?

    A little. Sometimes I do as I'm told though :)

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:51

    After that face plant?

    Exactly my point. This is much funnier (although LPG disagrees):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHXj3qgFs_k

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:51

    While we're doing trampolines, this is quite well done

    Elephant Jumping On Trampoline

    And it's safe for Christine

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:52

    A little. Sometimes I do as I’m told though :)

    Wow, so much power. What can I do with it I wonder? (evil grin) - me please let me know if you have any suggestions.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:52

    Exactly my point. This is much funnier (although LPG disagrees):

    ROFL, LMFAO and other such abbreviations

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 22:53

    After that face plant?

    Exactly my point. This is much funnier (although LPG disagrees):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHXj3qgFs_k

    That's going on my phone, NOW!

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 22:53

    Exactly my point. This is much funnier (although LPG disagrees):

    Are you guys trying to kill me?

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:55

    Was the elephant trying to get a job on Blue Peter?

    LPG has just named all the trampolining moves...

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:55

    Are you guys trying to kill me?

    Is that a challenge?

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 22:57

    Are you guys trying to kill me?

    More here: http://www.youtube.com/user/failblog

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 22:59

    Here's a cure one for christine

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqNXADl3kU

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 22:59

    OK. How bout this. A flying animal that doesn't fall and stays concious

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REl64B2oB1U

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:01

    Here’s a cure one for christine

    Cute even....

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 23:01

    OK. How bout this. A flying animal that doesn’t fall and stays concious

    Ah, that one never gets boring. :)

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:01

    Cute even….

    And funny

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:02

    OK. How bout this. A flying animal that doesn’t fall and stays concious

    Good old parabolic flights. :D

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:05

    Right, I think it's time to get some practice in for tomorrow's rugby watching in O'Neils - Guinness time!

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:05

    Good old parabolic flights. :D

    The Diet Coke and Mentos experiment on a parabolic flight is quite interesting too

  • lou20/03/2009 at 23:05

    Hey everyone :D am back from yet another performance of the wonderful musical les mis, sadly tomorrow is the last night. However tonight was amazing, we got a standing ovation and everything :)

    oh and i gather i missed a bit of unimportant news ;) - all i can say is, thank god ;)

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:06

    Hi Lou. :)

  • lou20/03/2009 at 23:10

    Hi Lou. :)

    hey Andy, how are you this evening?

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:11

    hey Andy, how are you this evening?

    Fine thank you. Been window shopping for lenses - new Nikon 35mm DX. A bit more reasonable than those tilt/shift lenses we were looking at.

  • Bootneck20/03/2009 at 23:12

    Hi guys, just got in from the pub,and the news I've missed seems to be good. Gimme the details someone, please.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:13

    And to follow up my steak:

    Vanilla Haagen Dazs straight from the tub and a double espresso macchiato. :D

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:13

    Vanilla Haagen Dazs straight from the tub and a double espresso macchiato. :D

    Girlfriend is still away then...

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:14

    Evening Lou and Bootneck.

    FIA have moved the changes to the poitns back to 2010 as they voted on it too late and didn't have all the teams support to bring it in early.

  • lou20/03/2009 at 23:14

    Fine thank you. Been window shopping for lenses - new Nikon 35mm DX. A bit more reasonable than those tilt/shift lenses we were looking at.

    ooooooo, i love lens shopping :)

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 23:14

    Hi guys, just got in from the pub,and the news I’ve missed seems to be good. Gimme the details someone, please.

    Champion will be decided by points, not wins.

    U-turn! U-turn!

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:14

    Girlfriend is still away then…

    Yup. Another week of peace, quite and decent eating. :D

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:14

    Girlfriend is still away then…

    There'll be a lot of washing up soon or a bin full of convenience food packaging :D

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:15

    Yup. Another week of peace, quite and decent eating. :D

    QUIET even... My typing is atrocious. :D

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:15

    Hi guys, just got in from the pub,and the news I’ve missed seems to be good. Gimme the details someone, please.

    FOTA said "Oi! FIA! No!".

    They argued that the scoring change was too late to be implemented for 2009 and the FIA realised they had broken their own rules. So points stay as they were until 2010.

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 23:15

    Yup. Another week of peace, quite and decent eating. :D

    Any engines in the bath this week?

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:15

    There’ll be a lot of washing up soon or a bin full of convenience food packaging :D

    haha... Paper plates - no convenience food though - cook it all myself.

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:16

    Any engines in the bath this week?

    Nope. All back together and awaiting a new gearbox before it goes in the car. I have nothign to do with that bit. I'm just waiting to pick up my new car tomorrow now.

  • lou20/03/2009 at 23:16

    Champion will be decided by points, not wins.

    :D that makes me happy. stupid FIA.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:17

    They argued that the scoring change was too late to be implemented for 2009 and the FIA realised they had broken their own rules. So points stay as they were until 2010.

    The '2nd drivers' might have a thing or two to say about that one

    It'll be like a Schuey in every team

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 23:18

    How come Christine doesn't own this url. It even has pandas half way down the page.

    http://www.cuteoverload.com/page/2/

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:18

    I’m just waiting to pick up my new car tomorrow now.

    I'm trying to decide if I should wait to replace mine now if the government are possibly offering cash incentives to remove old bangers from the roads

    When I started driving, my 1st car was 23 years old!

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 23:18

    It’ll be like a Schuey in every team

    I think two were enough... ;)

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:19

    I think two were enough… ;)

    One, was enough!

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:21

    How come Christine doesn’t own this url. It even has pandas half way down the page.

    Poor dog... Look at Customize your puppeh...

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:21

    Poor dog… Look at Customize your puppeh…

    Pandas are cute though. :)

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:23

    When I started driving, my 1st car was 23 years old!

    Mine was a 1973 VW Beetle...

    I started driving in 1995

    First car I owned was a 1971 Lotus Elan. That was when was 16, but it was a wreck and I spent 7 years rebuilding it.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:23

    Am lovin' the hamster in "Secrets of Pocket Pet Photo Shoots"

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 23:24

    One, was enough!

    Ah, but then what would Sniff Petrol do?

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:24

    Mine was a 1973 VW Beetle…

    My car is a 1972 Beetle :)

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:25

    1990: bought an automatic '77 mini (brown) for £400

    Had several oddities stolen from it including, wipers, battery (twice), wing mirrors and front number plate

    'Tis also why I no longer live in Brixton

  • Bootneck20/03/2009 at 23:26

    Brilliant,Brilliant,Brilliant. There is a god. and he sides with the people that make this sport what it is, the teams, the drivers, and all the back room staff that make it happen. Not the monkeys with fissog's on the TV and in the media all

    the time.

    All we need now is for FOTA to stay together and maybe just maybe..............

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:26

    My car is a 1972 Beetle :)

    I had a '71 camper that I bought for Glastonburys

    What a bus!

  • Jordan F1 - 2008 Sidepodcastland Champions!20/03/2009 at 23:32

    #60 - Christine said:

    May I have this baby animal instead?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7951331.stm

    Hopefully this issue has not been settled, but anyone care to guess how many glasses of wine it will take before Christine starts seeing "Pink Elephants" before her eyes?

  • Bootneck20/03/2009 at 23:32

    My 1st was a '63' Morris minor and like a sad puppy I painted it starskey and hutch colours. then I saw the light after 9 months and talked my dad into helping me buy a '61' Sunbeam Alpine, whatta car. Red n Black with a hard top

  • Flibster20/03/2009 at 23:33

    My car is a 1972 Beetle

    Lovely cars. My beetle was great - until my mum reversed it at quite a high speed into a concrete post. Complete write off. :(

    1990: bought an automatic ‘77 mini (brown) for £400

    Love the mini - hate the Auto bit.

    I had a ‘71 camper that I bought for Glastonburys

    *drool* Really can't afford one. Last time I did Glasto a group of 4 of us clubbed together and bought a really crappy Transit. Was a great idea. Just crashed in the back of it then drove it home and scrapped it. £300 well spent.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:35

    I almost had a mk3 Cortina (orange) as my first. My brother in law never got it working so that plan was abandoned

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:37

    *drool* Really can’t afford one. Last time I did Glasto a group of 4 of us clubbed together and bought a really crappy Transit. Was a great idea. Just crashed in the back of it then drove it home and scrapped it. £300 well spent.

    The secret is to bring a one-man tent also and secretly place a chemical toilet inside for your group's use. A lifesaver!

  • Selidor20/03/2009 at 23:40

    Right 3 things:

    1. Skype aint workin for me at the mo, so Ive sent my GP predicitons via email.

    2. Steven Roy (if you're out there) - finished my runs. Perfect setup and converted to dry.

    3. Just passed my Theory test. Phew!

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:41

    3. Just passed my Theory test. Phew!

    Congrats

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 23:41

    3. Just passed my Theory test. Phew!

    What did ya get?

  • lou20/03/2009 at 23:41

    3. Just passed my Theory test. Phew!

    well done :D

  • Jordan F1 - 2008 Sidepodcastland Champions!20/03/2009 at 23:42

    #73 - lou said:

    do not keep adult animals. It will have to go back.

    Do not smile, Lou! WE are going to be the poor sucker pilots who have to fly the damn elephant back to Africa....

    Or have not not studied the max. weight payload of the Osprey for the range needed to get to Africa and compared it to the weight of an adult elephant?

    If you agree to fly the elephant to Africa, Lou, I sure hope you can swim...

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 23:43

    I HAVE A PLAN!!

    Bernie has some spare room on his FOM plane, just divert it a bit!

  • Selidor20/03/2009 at 23:43

    Multiple choice questions: 49

    Hazard Perception: 64

    Though I think the latter section is a joke, the trick is just to click everything Repeatedly, and hope you dont max out your clicks :P

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 23:44

    2. Steven Roy (if you’re out there) - finished my runs. Perfect setup and converted to dry.

    Thanks & well done on the theory test.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 23:44

    Hazard Perception: 64

    Though I think the latter section is a joke, the trick is just to click everything Repeatedly, and hope you dont max out your clicks :P

    Yep, sounds about right

    Well done :)

  • me20/03/2009 at 23:45

    Right 3 things:

    1. Skype aint workin for me at the mo, so Ive sent my GP predicitons via email.

    we have them, thanks yoooou ;)

    3. Just passed my Theory test. Phew!

    go

    w00t!

  • Bootneck20/03/2009 at 23:45

    Right time for bed said Zeb. I'm guessing and only guessing, there's not many kids between you guys on here this time of night, I've gotta go, visiting my mum tomorrow her mum tomorrow afternoon then it 's the wife's day with her/our offspring on sunday. At least Bernie got something right and made the 1st race the same day as the boat race..... whatever that is. see ya all on monday for the daily.

  • me20/03/2009 at 23:45

    go

    w00t!

    go w00t??

    i meant "go you!"

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 23:46

    go

    Don't tell our visitors to go w00t! How rude.

  • me20/03/2009 at 23:46

    Right time for bed said Zeb.

    night buddy.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:47

    Don’t tell our visitors to go w00t! How rude.

    It that an Owl speak profanity?

  • Selidor20/03/2009 at 23:47

    Thanks y'all :)

    cya bootneck

  • me20/03/2009 at 23:49

    It that an Owl speak profanity?

    :D

    i'm never gonna live this down :(

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:50

    i’m never gonna live this down :(

    Nope

    I got you a small amount of speed tape btw

    Prob a metre or 2

  • me20/03/2009 at 23:51

    I got you a small amount of speed tape btw

    Prob a metre or 2

    you are a legend!

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 23:52

    Three blind mice walk into a pub. But they are all unaware of their surroundings, so to derive humour from it would be exploitative.

    :D

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:52

    i’m never gonna live this down :(

    Quick, dress up as a panda again. There, crisis over.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:53

    you are a legend!

    So I'm guessing I'm coming to the science musem then, unless you're parking at Heathrow again :)

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 23:53

    Three blind mice walk into a pub. But they are all unaware of their surroundings, so to derive humour from it would be exploitative.

    Thank you Bill Bailey

  • me20/03/2009 at 23:53

    Quick, dress up as a panda again. There, crisis over.

    once yes, twice no.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:54

    once yes, twice no.

    Never say never again

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 23:54

    Thank you Bill Bailey

    :D

    I was watching my Part Troll DVD earlier, and by coincidence, its on tv now!!

    The BBC News bit is my fav! :D

  • me20/03/2009 at 23:54

    So I’m guessing I’m coming to the science musem then, unless you’re parking at Heathrow again :)

    we likely are. and tubing to the museum. however, you are obliged to come.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:54

    The BBC News bit is my fav! :D

    Absolutely priceless

  • Christine20/03/2009 at 23:56

    I was watching my Part Troll DVD earlier, and by coincidence, its on tv now!!

    Wow. This may be a first. You're talking about a comedy moment I am aware of.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:56

    we likely are. and tubing to the museum. however, you are obliged to come.

    I most likely will.

    It'd be far better for you to continue on the A4 to Osterley, park round the corner from the station, literally - for free - and tube the rest of the way

  • Andy Taylor20/03/2009 at 23:56

    Absolutely priceless

    The man is a genius.

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 23:57

    Wow. This may be a first. You’re talking about a comedy moment I am aware of.

    *faints*

    :P

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:57

    The man is a genius.

    2nd only to Bill Hicks in my book

  • me20/03/2009 at 23:57

    It’d be far better for you to continue on the A4 to Osterley, park round the corner from the station, literally - for free - and tube the rest of the way

    ahhh. okay. can do.

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:57

    Wow. This may be a first. You’re talking about a comedy moment I am aware of.

    *faints*

    :P

    Jon's fallen in the water

  • lou20/03/2009 at 23:58

    Wow. This may be a first. You’re talking about a comedy moment I am aware of.

    ah.. care to explain then? ;)

  • Steven Roy20/03/2009 at 23:58

    Wow. This may be a first. You’re talking about a comedy moment I am aware of.

    How did that happen?

  • Dom20/03/2009 at 23:58

    The BBC News bit is my fav! :D

    Live commenting Part Troll? :)

  • Jon Waldock20/03/2009 at 23:58

    Live commenting Part Troll? :)

    hahaha

  • Bassano Clapper20/03/2009 at 23:59

    Wow. This may be a first. You’re talking about a comedy moment I am aware of.

    How did that happen?

    I think it's the SPC equivalent of a quantum singularity

  • Christine21/03/2009 at 00:00

    ah.. care to explain then? ;)

    Words can't explain!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3XUnEvh-pA

  • Dom21/03/2009 at 00:01

    ah.. care to explain then? ;)

    Bill Bailey!!

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:03

    Words can’t explain!

    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:05

    ah.. care to explain then? ;)

    Words can’t explain!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3XUnEvh-pA

    Or, with a little background story

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk9Ny7Tme2Y&feature=related

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:05

    once yes, twice no.

    An Otter?

    Pink Elephant?

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:05

    Or, with a little background story

    This one is a bit better, plus dosent cut the good bit off at the end

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:06

    2nd only to Bill Hicks in my book

    Bill Hicks was a comedy visionary. Love his stuff.

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 00:07

    Have I said how much I love 1986?

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:07

    Have I said how much I love 1986?

    .........

    no.

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:07

    200 peeps on the listener map:

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Listener+Map

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:07

    Bill Hicks was a comedy visionary. Love his stuff.

    He'd have had a field day with the Bush Jr years

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:08

    200 peeps on the listener map:

    Most effin' excellent

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 00:08

    He’d have had a field day with the Bush Jr years

    I missed the first hour. I am now watching it on youtube.

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:10

    He’d have had a field day with the Bush Jr years

    Most of the stuff he did could have just been recycled. ;)

    Also find Richard Pryor really funny.

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:10

    Most effin’ excellent

    as it was your idea, i'm thinking we should send you on a gorman-esque adventure to meet everyone on the map. what you think?

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:10

    He’d have had a field day with the Bush Jr years

    I missed the first hour. I am now watching it on youtube.

    The Bush Jr years?

    That'll take a while

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:11

    as it was your idea, i’m thinking we should send you on a gorman-esque adventure to meet everyone on the map. what you think?

    talking of gorman, did anyone watch Genius tonight?

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:11

    as it was your idea, i’m thinking we should send you on a gorman-esque adventure to meet everyone on the map. what you think?

    I'm trying, I've done 3/200

    No.4 got lost in the post :D

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:11

    talking of gorman, did anyone watch Genius tonight?

    Sky+'ed

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:11

    talking of gorman, did anyone watch Genius tonight?

    buuuugger :(

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:11

    talking of gorman, did anyone watch Genius tonight?

    Bugger, I thought that was next week

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:12

    No.4 got lost in the post :D

    hehehe.

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:12

    buuuugger :(

    iplayeriplayeriplayeriplayeriplayeriplayer

    it was good.

    i got tickets to go to the Christmas radio special, but was ill at the time. so annoyed now

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 00:12

    talking of gorman, did anyone watch Genius tonight?

    Unfortunately yes

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:12

    Sky+’ed

    Rapidshare it is then

    Or BBCi Player I s'pose

  • lou21/03/2009 at 00:12

    Words can’t explain!

    ehehehehheheheh :D that's brilliant!

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:13

    Or BBCi Player I s’pose

    It's already on iPlayer

    I wouldn't know about rapidshare. ;)

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:14

    ehehehehheheheh :D that’s brilliant!

    Recommend Black Books, from the writer of Father Ted with Bill Bailey & Dylan Moran

  • lou21/03/2009 at 00:14

    Or BBCi Player I s’pose

    Is this what your talking about?

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:14

    Is this what your talking about?

    yes

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:17

    Now watching it.

    Dave Gorman has gone mainstream.

    Shame, I saw him when he was searching for Dave Gormans *Dave Gormen?*

  • Alenyaa21/03/2009 at 00:17

    Have I said how much I love 1986?

    Maybe Dank should have a wager on our chances of colliding again?

  • Jordan F1 - 2008 Sidepodcastland Champions!21/03/2009 at 00:17

    #156 - Steven Roy said:

    Whats to say they won’t look at things after the season to compromise?

    Hopefully one driver will rack up a lot of wins this season and that will convince Bernie and Max of the folly of their thinking.

    Steven: That's just silly. It vaildates Bernie's thinking completly as the driver who got teh most wins also got the most points by virture of the wins so no harm no foul.

    I would love to see 17 differnet winners for 17 different races and both Ferrari's and Hamilton DNF at every single race under Bernie's proposed medal/most wins system. Do we then split the championship into 17 equals parts?

    Impossbile - Yes. But Bernie has not thought what happens in his system under a possible tie, and if 2nd place does count under Bernie's system then why not get points for it?

  • Andy Taylor21/03/2009 at 00:17

    Recommend Black Books, from the writer of Father Ted with Bill Bailey & Dylan Moran

    and Tamsin Grieg - she was in The Archers and Green Wing

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:18

    Shame, I saw him when he was searching for Dave Gormans *Dave Gormen?*

    As previously mentioned, my neighbour is one the few who changed his name to Dave Gorman just for comedy effect

    He made it into the book

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:19

    and Tamsin Grieg - she was in The Archers and Green Wing

    Also love Green Wing

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 00:19

    Maybe Dank should have a wager on our chances of colliding again?

    Stay away from me. You have a nice solid Ligier. I only have a Lotus with paper bulkheads.

  • Andy Taylor21/03/2009 at 00:19

    Dave Gorman has gone mainstream.

    Genius was great on the radio. Why do they have to spoil perfectly good radio shows by putting them on TV?

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:20

    As previously mentioned, my neighbour is one the few who changed his name to Dave Gorman just for comedy effect

    His name? So not one of the girls then ;)

    I have the "I am not Dave Gorman Are you?" badge somewhere

  • Andy Taylor21/03/2009 at 00:21

    Also love Green Wing

    Yes, me too.

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 00:21

    Steven: That’s just silly. It vaildates Bernie’s thinking completly as the driver who got teh most wins also got the most points by virture of the wins so no harm no foul.

    I was hoping that it would make Bernie realise that his TV audience will disappear if one driver dominates. I know it is only 5 years since that happened but Bernie and Max can't remember that far back.

  • Bootneck21/03/2009 at 00:22

    Just a quick 1 before I do crash, if any of you are coming up to london on 15th april for science museum tour. I work in central london and have access to free secure parking. please advise.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:22

    Genius was great on the radio. Why do they have to spoil perfectly good radio shows by putting them on TV?

    I really liked his independant travel across america show too

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 00:22

    Also love Green Wing

    I went back and watched both series of that on 4OD

  • Alenyaa21/03/2009 at 00:22

    Stay away from me. You have a nice solid Ligier. I only have a Lotus with paper bulkheads.

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:23

    I know it is only 5 years since that happened but Bernie and Max can’t remember that far back.

    Alzheimer's is a terrible...

    What was I saying?

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 00:23

    I really liked his independant travel across america show too

    That was a good show.

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:25

    I really liked his independant travel across america show too

    It's funny, he seems to be losing his mind with regularity. When his Director hurt her back he lost it, when he did Googlewhack, he lost it again....

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:26

    Why, oh why, can I never buy an online ticket for the national lottery after sundown when I've had an account for about 2 years?

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:31

    Why, oh why, can I never buy an online ticket for the national lottery after sundown when I’ve had an account for about 2 years?

    In Australia [going back 7 years or so] they tried to outlaw 24hr gambling. There's a big issue there with 'poker machines' [like one-armed bandits] in rooms attached to pubs that are open 24hrs a day. It was deemed unfair to shift workers to close down at 6am as they wouldn't get the chance to flutter on the way home from work.

    The compromise was to close between 4 and 6am, which was used to get the cleaners in to sweep up

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:33

    if dank hadn't warned us:

    http://www.autosport.com/

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:34

    if dank hadn’t warned us:

    http://www.autosport.com/

    "We aim to have service restored by 05.00 GMT"

    Is that SidePodTime?

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:39

    Nothings changed on mine?! Except all teh pictures arent showing

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 00:39

    This man has the worst PR Manager on the entire planet! {Comment #23}

    To be fair, Anthony Hamilton has no experience prior to Lewis. He's also contending with the problem that the better-known you are, the more imposing you are to the powers that be and therefore the quieter you must be to avoid official opprobrium. Still, he could get the balance better.

    Mind you, it does fit in very well with the tradition Dennis-era McLaren PR strategy, so maybe it is in Lewis' best interest after all...

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:39

    Ok, the drunkenness outside has got weirder.

    There is now a group of people all dressed as Elvis staggering down the middle of the road, singing Blue Suede Shoes...

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:40

    Nothings changed on mine?! Except all teh pictures arent showing

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/picture-2-png-2

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:40

    There is now a group of people all dressed as Elvis staggering down the middle of the road, singing Blue Suede Shoes…

    PICS!

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:42
  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:42

    Don't have a camera that has batteries in reach - it's funny as hell though

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:42

    PICS!

    DRINK!

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 00:43

    Nothings changed on mine?! Except all teh pictures arent showing

    That was wierd. I clicked on the link on the desktop doohickey and a new window popped uo with the SPC logo on it saying click here. I clicked here and then I got the link in a different window.

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 00:43

    They've changed song - Little less Conversation now.

    At least one of them isn't a bad singer.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:43

    Is this 2011 aero rules for those within the budget cap?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/l-dg0-5644-3-jpeg

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:44

    That was wierd. I clicked on the link on the desktop doohickey and a new window popped uo with the SPC logo on it saying click here. I clicked here and then I got the link in a different window.

    Me too

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:44

    Don’t have a camera that has batteries in reach - it’s funny as hell though

    Not having fresh batteries?

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:46

    At least one of them isn’t a bad singer.

    Can you get them to sing this please?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco&feature=related

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 00:46

    Can you get them to sing this please?

    or this preferably...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf9d7rSf_Ks&feature=related

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:47

    That was wierd. I clicked on the link on the desktop doohickey and a new window popped uo with the SPC logo on it saying click here. I clicked here and then I got the link in a different window.

    it does that when dropio can't process the pics fast enough. tends to sort itself out soon enough. odd though.

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:48

    Not having fresh batteries?

    :D

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:48

    Can you get them to sing this please?

    or this preferably…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf9d7rSf_Ks&feature=related

    its not easy being green - just ask the honda mechanics

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:50

    Mr C: at the risk of bringing it up too soon, what about the SidePodTour to the Lotus factory? Possible dates, should we put it out there?

  • me21/03/2009 at 00:51

    Mr C: at the risk of bringing it up too soon, what about the SidePodTour to the Lotus factory? Possible dates, should we put it out there?

    between spain and monaco is looking good. weekend of the 16th may maybe?

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:51

    between spain and monaco is looking good. weekend of the 16th may maybe?

    Sounds good

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 00:52

    Can you get them to sing this please?

    or this preferably…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf9d7rSf_Ks&feature=related

    LOL at the comment: I remember my dad getting mad at me when I asked if Bert and Ernie was married

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 01:05

    Random tangent....As of September this year i hope to be starting a Motorsport degree.

    Practical modules include; marshalling, scrutineering, time keeping and other industry qualifications.

    And many driving things too, as well as events management, crowd control etc etc. And they say universitys hard work?! :P

    Link below if you want a look...

    http://bucks.ac.uk/default.aspx?page=6643

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 01:06

    Link below if you want a look…

    Its a new course in development by the way...but i'm getting more info through the post in hte next couple of days so will keep you all posted...

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:07

    Ok, who put this, as their location on the SPC listener's map. Do we have migratory birds or scientists with good internet connections.

    I'm not going there for drinks!

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:07

    Its a new course in development by the way…but i’m getting more info through the post in hte next couple of days so will keep you all posted…

    Looks like fun! For a college degree that is. I was looking into a masters in motorsport in cranfield. Looks v. interesting.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:08

    Its a new course in development by the way…but i’m getting more info through the post in hte next couple of days so will keep you all posted…

    cool, so what avenue are you hoping for on completion?

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 01:08

    Random tangent….As of September this year i hope to be starting a Motorsport degree.

    I think it is time I went to Uni.

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 01:09

    Looks like fun! For a college degree that is. I was looking into a masters in motorsport in cranfield. Looks v. interesting.

    I've always wanted to do either Motorsport engineering or business. but engineering courses are all computer based and business is the biggest subject ever. this is exactly what ive been searching for...

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:09

    Its a new course in development by the way…but i’m getting more info through the post in hte next couple of days so will keep you all posted…

    ace, thanks jon. v.interesting stuff.

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 01:10

    cool, so what avenue are you hoping for on completion?

    that sir is a good question. i havent a clue really. so i figure, do what you enjoy

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:10

    renault-gate: it is alleged that matt bishop was the man who sent out the mclaren press release suggesting renault had many megabytes of mclaren data on a handfull floppy disks. despite the fact any fool knows you’d struggle to get more than one image on those things. {Comment #31}

    You can get 780 images on an old-style floppy - as long as the average file was below 1.846 KB. Considering that 11 disks were confirmed to be involved, that increases the maximum average file size to 20.46KB. That's plenty large enough for an average of 10 cm x 10 cm JPEG files at high compression rates.

    The theory remained plausible even after Matt Bishop's exaggerations were removed from the equation.

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:11

    Looks like fun! For a college degree that is. I was looking into a masters in motorsport in cranfield. Looks v. interesting.

    blimey, you lot are keen. dank's trying something similar i believe.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:12

    that sir is a good question. i havent a clue really. so i figure, do what you enjoy

    Wise words

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:12

    I’ve always wanted to do either Motorsport engineering or business. but engineering courses are all computer based and business is the biggest subject ever. this is exactly what ive been searching for…

    Thats cool. It seems to have a nice balance. And the scrutineering and marshalling aspect is something the course in Cranfield doesnt have.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:13

    you can get maybe one or two drawings on a floppy disks (if there really small)! it’s rumoured matt b. was the man who hit “send” on that release. {Comment #35}

    If he didn't hit "send", then he still would have had management responsibility over whoever did. Being a head of department has that effect...

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 01:13

    Thats cool. It seems to have a nice balance. And the scrutineering and marshalling aspect is something the course in Cranfield doesnt have.

    It seems a bit more practical based than other courses ive seen

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:14

    If he didn’t hit “send”, then he still would have had management responsibility over whoever did. Being a head of department has that effect…

    So, he had the ability to hit send but was still using floppys?

    Welcome to 1989

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:15

    The theory remained plausible even after Matt Bishop’s exaggerations were removed from the equation.

    rubbish!

    by way of example i took a screenshot of your comment, compressed it into jpeg format and the smallest i could make it, whilst remaining legible was 14KB.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/14k-comment-jpg-2

    that's a single comment, and doesn't contain any details of something as intricate as car parts.

    the only thing in question was "did the bish send that email". because the maths are very, very wrong.

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:15

    So, he had the ability to hit send but was still using floppys?

    :D

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 01:16

    So, he had the ability to hit send but was still using floppys?

    *EMAIL ATTACHMENT SIZE 1MB - ESTIMATE DOWNLOAD TIME - 30 MINUTES*

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:16

    It seems a bit more practical based than other courses ive seen

    Yeah. I reckon thats a very important part. It was one of the main reasons I picked the college I go to, strikes a good balance between practical and classroom stuff. You leave college more rounded, or some blarney like that :p Best of luck with it!

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:16

    If he didn’t hit “send”, then he still would have had management responsibility over whoever did. Being a head of department has that effect…

    not necessarily true. rumour has it he still worked for haymarket at the time and didn't officially take up the mclaren role until january.

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:17

    I’m not going there for drinks!

    think of it as a challenge.

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 01:18

    Best of luck with it!

    Thanks

    and on that bombshell, im going to bed. Night all

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:18

    night jon.

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:18

    Night

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:18

    G'night Jon

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 01:19

    Night Jon

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:19

    think of it as a challenge.

    I'd probably need a donate button, even with staff travel

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:20

    new names for singapore corners:

    - sheares

    - memorial

    - singapore sling {Comment #48}

    Take it I didn't win, then :(

    I would check who did, but Autosport won't load :( :(

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:20

    I’m not going there for drinks!

    think of it as a challenge.

    Saying that, I'm trying to find a way into Tibet without joining an organised tour group. I should bring some SPC flyrers if I make it

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 01:20

    I’d probably need a donate button, even with staff travel

    'Pub closed due to economic circumstances'

    WHAT?!

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:21

    Saying that, I’m trying to find a way into Tibet without joining an organised tour group. I should bring some SPC flyrers if I make it

    wha?

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:21

    I would check who did, but Autosport won’t load :( :(

    Swapping servers or something

    (though prob just a pre-season party)

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:21

    Is turn 10 where Kimi crashed? If so, highly appropriate to name the corner after an alcoholic drink! {Comment #52}

    Yes indeed it is! The only corner on the F1 circuit named after an alcoholic beverage.

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 01:21

    I’d probably need a donate button, even with staff travel

    You could try what this guy is doing. He set out to go round the world without spending any money and relying on people on twitter to help him.

    http://www.twitchhiker.com/

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:22

    Saying that, I’m trying to find a way into Tibet without joining an organised tour group. I should bring some SPC flyrers if I make it

    wha?

    Apparently, ypu can't travel in Tibet unless you're with an organised tour group. I don't do those

    The other word should have read 'flyers'

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:22

    Did anyone get the season preview issue of Autosport? Not exactly riveting

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:23

    Apparently, ypu can’t travel in Tibet unless you’re with an organised tour group. I don’t do those

    i see. they have ipod's in tibet?

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:23

    Did anyone get the season preview issue of Autosport? Not exactly riveting

    was going to purchase tomorrow. you suggest i save me cash?

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:24

    Haven’t seen anyone else mention this yet, but apparently FOTA claim that the new points system is invalid: {Comment #87}

    Technically all the modifications made this week are invalid, since they were done in breach of Appendix 5 of the Sporting Regulations. But who is the FIA to feel compelled to follow FIA regulations?

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:24

    i see. they have ipod’s in tibet?

    Fake chinese ones probably

    I once saw a reproduction moped on my travels with a Hongda badge

    I think it came out of the back door :D

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:25

    Technically all the modifications made this week are invalid, since they were done in breach of Appendix 5 of the Sporting Regulations. But who is the FIA to feel compelled to follow FIA regulations?

    :D

    good point.

  • Joe21/03/2009 at 01:25

    I was thinking of getting Autosport again, especially to fill the F1 Racing gap, maybe not now.

    Cian, do you think RTE will try for the F1 again in the future?

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:27

    was going to purchase tomorrow. you suggest i save me cash?

    mmm, maybe. they have like a paragraph for each team. Was expecting something more, maybe some techy bits or something. The DC column was quite good though.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:27

    Autosport says that Brawn are taking up last place in the pitlane because they are a new entrant and not taking over Honda. {Comment #102}

    That was unexpected. In that case, what will Honda's executives look like when they discover that Brawn GP being a new entry means that they are still (at least in theory) liable for the penalty for letting a race entry lapse?

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:30

    That was unexpected. In that case, what will Honda’s executives look like when they discover that Brawn GP being a new entry means that they are still (at least in theory) liable for the penalty for letting a race entry lapse?

    :D

    Well now that it's been published here, the letter will be in the post Monday :(

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:31

    Cian, do you think RTE will try for the F1 again in the future?

    Hey Joe ^^ I wouldnt think so. The main attraction for RTE was Jordan of course. Eddie always guaranteed them interviews and stuff. Any idea how much Setanta paid for the rights? Their coverage lacks a bit of polish, though Gary Anderson is fantastic. The guy knows what he's on about. Oh, and bring back Peter Collins!

    What do you reckon?

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:33

    I must apologise in advance.

    In the remotest of possibilties that i even have the capacity to post here after sundown tomorrow. Ignore ALL that I say.

    Am going to Covent Garden around 2pm to watch the rugby - England & then Ireland (g'wan lads) and then onto a friend's birthday drinks

    Am thinking it could get quite messy

  • Joe21/03/2009 at 01:34

    I don't thin so mate. F1 just isn't anywhere near big in Ireland. Jordan were of course a big part of it, and since their departure, coverage has declined. The coverage in the papers is shockingly bad. I wouldn't have clue how much Setanta paid, but seeing as they show practice (I think) they should certainly keep the coverage. F1 Digital from a few years ago was a good idea but it kinda flopped. Plus the BBCi stuff is the same anyway.

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:34

    Am thinking it could get quite messy

    doohickey needs google goggles.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:36

    doohickey needs google goggles.

    Or that iPhone Drunk Dial App

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:37

    doohickey needs google goggles.

    That should be the password :D

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:38

    That should be the password :D

    :D

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:39

    I don’t thin so mate. F1 just isn’t anywhere near big in Ireland. Jordan were of course a big part of it, and since their departure, coverage has declined. The coverage in the papers is shockingly bad. I wouldn’t have clue how much Setanta paid, but seeing as they show practice (I think) they should certainly keep the coverage. F1 Digital from a few years ago was a good idea but it kinda flopped. Plus the BBCi stuff is the same anyway.

    Yeah thats true, just not a big enough audience. They'd be better off getting the WRC back. That'd please all the Cavan boys. I managed to convince the old man to get Setanta in when RTE lost the rights, expecting something like the ITV presentation, not even close though. But now that James Allen is gone, I'll be quite happy to watch it on BBC and get rid of Setanta!

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:39

    They can if they get unanimity. {Comment #148}

    If they're doing it within their own regulations, the Sporting Working Group has to approve the Sporting Regulations changes and the Technical Working Group has to approve the Technical Regulations. After that, the Formula One Commission (involving six teams, five race promoters, Bernie and Max) vote on the matter and it requires a majority to pass the measure.

    The refusal of the FIA to do this shows its contempt for its own regulations, which is ultimately self-defeating for it.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:40

    I’ll be quite happy to watch it on BBC and get rid of Setanta!

    Watch it online with an web proxy

  • Joe21/03/2009 at 01:41

    You from Cavan eh? I'm in Mayo myself, though I don't consider myself to be from the wretched place. Peter Collins is from Mayo IIRC. Wonder where that David Kennedy muppet is from.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:42

    The refusal of the FIA to do this shows its contempt for its own regulations, which is ultimately self-defeating for it.

    Didn't we always know that the FIA was only setting up these groups as lip service once they'd brainstormed the overtaking issue?

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:42

    how annoyed would you be if you’d just finished that article and then had to take it down {Comment #165}

    It could be worse. Someone at Yahoo! will be miffed when its portal does its usual trick of having an item with the "Championship decided on points" entry next Wednesday...

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 01:43

    Alianora has written another great post on the FIA rule changes. Well worth a read. Although I strongly suggest you don't try and figure out how the FIA arrived at some of the decisions.

    Hands up everyon who evey worried about holes in wing mirrors. Wierd

    http://formula1home.com/forum/weblog_entry.php?e=691

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:44

    Hands up everyon who evey worried about holes in wing mirrors. Wierd

    haven't read the entry yet. but we mentioned this last year. is it something to do with situating pitot tubes in them?

    *goes of to read now*

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:45

    You from Cavan eh? I’m in Mayo myself, though I don’t consider myself to be from the wretched place. Peter Collins is from Mayo IIRC. Wonder where that David Kennedy muppet is from.

    Im actually from Wicklow, but I know a few Cavan lads who are mad into rallying and their mark 2's. Steer from the rear and all that. Mayo's not all that bad is it?!

    I think Kennedy's from Dublin. Remember going to see him driving the Jordan at Mondello in '99. My dad managed to sneak us into the pits and I'm ashamed to say I got his autograph. Was it Ensign or Shadow he drove for? Think it was Shadow.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:45

    haven’t read the entry yet. but we mentioned this last year. is it something to do with situating pitot tubes in them?

    Pitot tubes need to be located towards the front to avoid 'dirty air'

    Doubt wing mirrors would work

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:46

    You from Cavan eh? I’m in Mayo myself

    joe, how comes you're not on the sidepodmap?

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Listener+Map

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:47

    Pitot tubes need to be located towards the front to avoid ‘dirty air’

    Doubt wing mirrors would work

    any idea what other data recording equipment could be put in them? something in the back of my mind says a team was experimenting with this in early 2008.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:48

    Who are they trying to kid? {Comment #209}

    Possibly because the FIA missed the point of the FOTA proposal, which was that FOTA wanted a better points system, not a replacement thereof...

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 01:49

    any idea what other data recording equipment could be put in them? something in the back of my mind says a team was experimenting with this in early 2008.

    I didn't even think of aero as an option. I don't remember ever seeing anything on this subject before.

  • Joe21/03/2009 at 01:49

    I think Kennedy did indeed drive for Shadow. He also failed to qualify an embarrassing amount of times. I look foward to the day when there's an Irish F1 driver who's from the Republic but isn't from Dublin. Although an Irish F1 driver from any county now would be surprising, Adam Carroll won't be making it.

    Mr. C, I found that too confusing, so I've not added yet.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:49

    P2T2 probe, pressure/temperature at engine intake

    Static (atmospheric) pressure - in conjunction with pitot usually

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:50

    Mr. C, I found that too confusing, so I’ve not added yet.

    understood. i can add?

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:52

    how is it a victory though? {Comment #212}

    They've laid down a marker. Henceforth, the FIA must follow the regulations it has written down or face an embarassing comedown. The item they had to stand down on is almost irrelevant compared to the imposition of FIA rules upon the FIA.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:52

    P2T2 probe, pressure/temperature at engine intake

    Probably already have some kind of lateral slip sensing (aside from driver's own ;) )

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:52

    P2T2 probe, pressure/temperature at engine intake

    Static (atmospheric) pressure - in conjunction with pitot usually

    interesting. where the hell were you last year! :)

    if memory serves. where the tv camera isn't sitting inside the mirror mount there's a spare space for equipment. i think maybe some teams stuck an infra-red camera pointing at the tyres in there, but i may be making that up.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:53

    5livef1 just mentioned force india have a podcast coming out on monday: {Comment #216}

    Force India are trying very hard to take the title of "most internet-friendly team" from Renault :)

    I will certainly keep an ear out for it.

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:54

    Force India are trying very hard to take the title of “most internet-friendly team” from Renault :)

    i'm guessing it's maurice hamilton / ian phillips. what say you?

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:55

    I think Kennedy did indeed drive for Shadow. He also failed to qualify an embarrassing amount of times. I look foward to the day when there’s an Irish F1 driver who’s from the Republic but isn’t from Dublin. Although an Irish F1 driver from any county now would be surprising, Adam Carroll won’t be making it.

    I think he holds the record for number of times failing to qualify. F1 Rejects have a thing on him. He went on to manage Mazda's Le Mans team with the mental sounding 787. Such a pity Carroll never had the budget. He's a bloody great driver. Apart from him, there doesnt seem to be anyone really promising around at the mo. Niall Breen was in Euro F3 last year. He didnt exactly set the world alight. Niall Quinn didnt seem to do much better in Brit F3. Derek Daly's young fella's supposed to be a bit handy.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:55

    if memory serves. where the tv camera isn’t sitting inside the mirror mount there’s a spare space for equipment. i think maybe some teams stuck an infra-red camera pointing at the tyres in there, but i may be making that up.

    Could also be a sensor for measuring road speed kinda like a radio altimeter

    What they need is TCAS, but I suppose DC has retired now :D

  • Steven Roy21/03/2009 at 01:55

    i’m guessing it’s maurice hamilton / ian phillips. what say you?

    Philips seems a certainty

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:56

    What they need is TCAS, but I suppose DC has retired now :D

    :D

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:56

    Philips seems a certainty

    Certainly hope so

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 01:56

    ten minutes further into the podcast, that “week” dropped to just 4 days of research. {Comment #219}

    I suppose they needed the other day to convince the FIA to read the research...

    (Yes, I'm in a cynical mood tonight)

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:56

    Force India are trying very hard to take the title of “most internet-friendly team” from Renault :)

    i’m guessing it’s maurice hamilton / ian phillips. what say you?

    Cos Renault Podcast often fails to download 1st time on iTunes. Maybe they're suffering from buffering issues too

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:56

    Philips seems a certainty

    hope so. despite his wife/ex/stalker trying to convince us he's not doing his job correctly, i still like him.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:57

    hope so. despite his wife/ex/stalker trying to convince us he’s not doing his job correctly, i still like him.

    Me too

  • cian21/03/2009 at 01:57

    hope so. despite his wife/ex/stalker trying to convince us he’s not doing his job correctly, i still like him.

    lol, what was that all about?

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:57

    Cos Renault Podcast often fails to download 1st time on iTunes. Maybe they’re suffering from buffering issues too

    i think i'm gonna have to drop.io it. how hard is it to fix an rss feed?

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:58

    lol, what was that all about?

    no idea. keeps coming back though :)

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 01:58

    how hard is it to fix an rss feed?

    Is that a coding joke?

  • me21/03/2009 at 01:59

    Is that a coding joke?

    not really. their rss feed (the thing itunes uses) is broken. not a great start to the season.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:00

    I may not be html compliant but I know what RSS is :D

    btw: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/will-code-html-jpg

  • me21/03/2009 at 02:01
  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:02

    I may not be html compliant but I know what RSS is :D

    btw: http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/will-code-html-jpg

    I thought it might be a "how many Renault IT engineers does it take to fix an RSS feed" line ;)

  • me21/03/2009 at 02:02

    I thought it might be a “how many Renault IT engineers does it take to fix an RSS feed” line ;)

    ;)

    more than they have available.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:03

    more than they have available.

    Maybe they were 'doing a Piquet' and waiting to crash

  • me21/03/2009 at 02:04

    Maybe they were ‘doing a Piquet’ and waiting to crash

    fp1 friday.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:07

    fp1 friday.

    Incidentally, do we think Brawn will have some super-quali set-up to stoke the fire some more on Fri?

    I'm saying yes and P10/12 for quali

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 02:07

    My 1st was a ‘63? Morris minor {Comment #340}

    My first car is unlikely to be bought for at least two years because even if I got a job, it's unlikely I'd be able to afford the insurance and driving lesson expenses until then.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 02:08

    3. Just passed my Theory test. Phew! {Comment #344}

    Congratulations, Selidor!

  • me21/03/2009 at 02:08

    Incidentally, do we think Brawn will have some super-quali set-up to stoke the fire some more on Fri?

    i'm expecting new aero parts from bmw and ferrari.

    i think brawn will race with what they have.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:09

    I think Friday's times will be all over the place this year with testing regs

  • me21/03/2009 at 02:11

    I think Friday’s times will be all over the place this year with testing regs

    true, but engines are limited to 8 per year. if i was lacking in confidence, i'd sit out friday. if i was really confident, i'd sit out friday.

    do we have an early weather check yet?

  • cian21/03/2009 at 02:11

    Incidentally, do we think Brawn will have some super-quali set-up to stoke the fire some more on Fri?

    Possibly. Fishing for sponsors perhaps. If they do, I dont think they'll be as low as 10/12 though. I'm a bit shocked how far behind Brawn Force India are. Seeing as how both cars were designed around different engines than the Merc they have now.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:14

    do we have an early weather check yet?

    7 days+ is too unreliable

    Melbourne isn't the dryest of place but it is the tail end of summer and we don't see too many wet Aussie races. Currently in the high 20s

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:16

    true, but engines are limited to 8 per year. if i was lacking in confidence, i’d sit out friday. if i was really confident, i’d sit out friday.

    If was thinking more about aero and/or other

    Do practice set-ups have to be FIA compliant, am guessing they do

  • Joe21/03/2009 at 02:16

    I checked the weather earlier today and it's sun sun sun for all 3 days. Not a drop of rain in sight. That's great I reckon.

    We might be seeing Brawn being more competitive than McLaren for the first few races, there's a shocker.

    Cian, got msn for a chat?

  • me21/03/2009 at 02:17

    i'm gonna sleep now. but before i go, i'll leave you with a quick plug.

    today and sunday are christine's last two days off from f1 minute until the end of the season. that means from monday, f1m is 7 days a week, and i think the big pic will also be 7 days per week until november.

    please check out friday's audio @ http://www.f1minute.com/

    as well as the photos @ http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

    it's the calm before the storm. catch y'all in the morning.

  • me21/03/2009 at 02:17

    I checked the weather earlier today and it’s sun sun sun for all 3 days. Not a drop of rain in sight. That’s great I reckon.

    last thing we need is the weather confusing matters.

  • me21/03/2009 at 02:18

    Do practice set-ups have to be FIA compliant, am guessing they do

    yup. all cars have to be strictly legal.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 02:18

    So, he had the ability to hit send but was still using floppys?

    Welcome to 1989 {Comment #473}

    Matt wasn't the one using floppies - that was a bloke called Phil Mackareth. Though what McLaren had floppy drives in its computers circa 2007 for is another question entirely. Perhaps McLaren's IT staff wondered the same thing after the problem occurred...

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:19

    G'night Mr C

    as well as the photos @ http://www.f1bigpicture.com/

    I love f1bigpicture

  • cian21/03/2009 at 02:21

    Sure Joe, is it koshir to put my email on here so you can add me?

  • cian21/03/2009 at 02:22

    And night Mr. C.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:22

    I bought a new LCD telly last week with freeview to take advantage of the reported BBC red button stufff this year.

    The question is, do I move the telly in sight of the live commenting 'puter or vice versa?

  • Joe21/03/2009 at 02:22

    Yep, go right on. I might be gone in a sec but if I am then I'll add you tomorrow.

  • cian21/03/2009 at 02:23

    Matt wasn’t the one using floppies - that was a bloke called Phil Mackareth. Though what McLaren had floppy drives in its computers circa 2007 for is another question entirely. Perhaps McLaren’s IT staff wondered the same thing after the problem occurred…

    Hey Alianora. A lot of manufacturing places would still have floppy drives on theyre CAM machinery like CMM machines for inputing CAD drawings.

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:23

    Sure Joe, is it koshir to put my email on here so you can add me?

    You can add your addy in the normal (browser) doohickey then edit it out afterwards if you like

  • Joe21/03/2009 at 02:24

    Alright guys, I'm out.

    Night.

  • cian21/03/2009 at 02:24

    cool, its cian******co.uk. I'm going to head off to bed soon, so no worries!

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:25

    G'night Joe

  • cian21/03/2009 at 02:27

    Night Joe. Good thinkin Bassano, Ill do that tomorrow.Anyway, Im off too, night :)

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 02:36

    rubbish!

    by way of example i took a screenshot of your comment, compressed it into jpeg format and the smallest i could make it, whilst remaining legible was 14KB.

    {Comment #474}

    The screenshot is 15cm x 2.2 cm. I also don't know what compression level you used If I squint, I can read it without zooming in.

    I've just put a test image into drop.io. It's not very detailed because detailed drawing isn't my greatest strength at 2:30am, but it is a 10cm x 10cm JPEG, it is 1.18KB and some writing and writing and an image should be visible (though you may have to zoom in to get the best benefit). The tricks are to get the resolution down and use greyscale (colour takes much more space).

    The PNG version is even better, at 296 bytes for the same image (and a lot clearer!), but I'm not sure whether Phil Mackareth would have known how to convert graphic file formats...

  • Bassano Clapper21/03/2009 at 02:39

    but I’m not sure whether Phil Mackareth would have known how to convert graphic file formats…

    Well if there were floppy disks involved, I'm guessing not ;)

  • Flibster21/03/2009 at 03:03

    Time for bed for me.

    Collecting car tomorrow *yay!* Also planning on going to the range to relax.

    TTFN

  • 2008 Sidepodcastland Champions Jordan F121/03/2009 at 04:05

    Nite, Flibster...

  • Fiox21/03/2009 at 07:33

    Apparently these new rules don't come into play till 2010, because the F1 teams have no unanimously agreed and it would be after the Melbourne GP that they would agree, if they favoured the new rule set.

    source:

    bbc.co.uk/sport/formula_one

  • Dank21/03/2009 at 08:16

    Random tangent….As of September this year i hope to be starting a Motorsport degree.

    Practical modules include; marshalling, scrutineering, time keeping and other industry qualifications.

    That looks particularly interesting Jon. I've sent off for a prospectus for more information as Bucks Univesity in High Wycombe is only a few miles away from me and I'm looking to go back to Uni as a mature student.

    I've applied to Oxford Brookes for either their Motorsport Engineering or Technology course. I had a look round their new facilities a couple of days ago. It is seriously impressive what they had on offer and has close links to Williams and Renault who are a stones throw away.

  • Dank21/03/2009 at 08:25

    Did anyone get the season preview issue of Autosport? Not exactly riveting

    Completely agreed. It's rubbish. Zero depth on any of the teams bar a sentence or two.

    Previous years it used to be a handy booklet, guessing Haymarket are cutting down on production costs at the moment.

    The Guardian have an F1 preview today in their paper (should be online so I'll search for it in a minute). Last year's was good and Red Bulletin-esque (F1 paddock Red Bulletin and not the GQ wannabe version).

  • RG21/03/2009 at 08:51

    Erm. Came onto lclt to see last nights posts and I can only see the last 3. Everything else is fine. Quite odd

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 10:00

    I’ve applied to Oxford Brookes for either their Motorsport Engineering or Technology course. I had a look round their new facilities a couple of days ago. It is seriously impressive what they had on offer and has close links to Williams and Renault who are a stones throw away.

    Yeah, one of my other offers is from Brookes, its a lovely place. The courses are all a bit too design-y for me, the guy told us you go 2 days in the workshop and thats about it, the real 'doing' time comes from doing formula student.

  • Dank21/03/2009 at 10:01

    Yeah, one of my other offers is from Brookes, its a lovely place. The courses are all a bit too design-y for me, the guy told us you go 2 days in the workshop and thats about it, the real ‘doing’ time comes from doing formula student.

    You been to an open day to the one in Wycombe? Initial impressions?

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 10:04

    You been to an open day to the one in Wycombe? Initial impressions?

    Literally only discovered the course this week, some 360 shots ive seen look good, inside is totally revamped, outside looks a bit old but its all getting revamped at the moment so it'll probably change before september. I'm going to an open day at the end of next month.

  • Dank21/03/2009 at 10:08

    Literally only discovered the course this week, some 360 shots ive seen look good, inside is totally revamped, outside looks a bit old but its all getting revamped at the moment so it’ll probably change before september. I’m going to an open day at the end of next month.

    It looks an absolute dump from the outside. But that says more about Wycombe than anything! :-D

    Wycombe is going through a massive revamp at the moment and they're improving it all for the better. The Uni inside has been vastly improved from what I've heard as well. I know someone who works in their IT department and he's full of praise for it.

    I might be joining you on the open day if it's next month! I'm open to suggestions for any motorsport related courses, the one at Brookes fills me with the fear. Though that's more to do with the fact I've been out of education for 10 years nearly!

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 10:09

    I might be joining you on the open day if it’s next month! I’m open to suggestions for any motorsport related courses, the one at Brookes fills me with the fear. Though that’s more to do with the fact I’ve been out of education for 10 years nearly!

    Sounds like a plan. What are you looking for from a course?

  • Dank21/03/2009 at 10:18

    Sounds like a plan. What are you looking for from a course?

    Still in the decision making process at the moment. Completely and utterly fed up with the way my 'career' has panned out thus far and thought now is the time to 'risk it for the biscuit'.

    Been speaking to someone I know who works at RBR in the composites department and his advice about getting into the industry was "It's not what you know, but who you know," which is all well and good, but I need something to get my foot in the door to begin with.

    Ultimate aim is to have something that says I know my beans and fingers-crossed find employment within the motor sport industry, don't really mind where or how. Though it's highly competitive so taking time to find the right course for me.

  • Jon Waldock21/03/2009 at 10:33

    The way i see the courses; if you want to be a Designer go to Brookes, if you want to be a race engineer do one of the many HND-types and if you want to be more of a business/doing non-techy stuff then Bucks is the place. But they all have elements of each, so alot of research has to go into Modules and that kind of thing.

  • Dank21/03/2009 at 10:43

    The one thing that puts me off Brookes is the course duration. Probably looking at 4/5 years in total, though on the flip side, one of those would be a years placement within the industry which could prove invaluable - that's if there are places by then (depending on the economy).

    Motorsport Engineering is very specific, but in theory brings better rewards. Motorsport Technology (the one I'm looking at) deals more with the CAD/CAM side of things and CFD. That sort of stuff would be right up my street.

    I'll give Bucks University a tinkle on Monday to discuss their course further. Sent off for a prospectus so will mull it over.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 15:54

    not necessarily true. rumour has it he still worked for haymarket at the time and didn’t officially take up the mclaren role until january. {Comment #478}

    The version I heard was that he'd used a Haymarket e-mail address which hadn't been de-registered to send a McLaren missive (in this rumour, he was working in a sort of transition zone in terms of where he was working). Either way, the employment situation compounded the error.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 15:58

    Well now that it’s been published here, the letter will be in the post Monday {Comment #503}

    I wouldn't worry that much. The bill will be paid by Honda, not Brawn, and Honda could always try using the FIA's behaviour to cite breach of contract and get them to pay the fine instead...

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 16:03

    Didn’t we always know that the FIA was only setting up these groups as lip service once they’d brainstormed the overtaking issue? {Comment #515}

    Using them as lip service is one thing. Blatantly breaking their own regulations is something else - a politically foolish something else, in all probability.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 16:07

    i’m guessing it’s maurice hamilton / ian phillips. what say you? {Comment #532}

    I say YAY! :D

    Better still, the combination sounds plausible.

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 22:22

    i think i’m gonna have to drop.io it. how hard is it to fix an rss feed? {Comment #543}

    That's a bit of a sore subject at the moment. I've been trying to fix my RSS feed since Tuesday and it has so far resisted every single attempt :(

  • Alianora La Canta21/03/2009 at 22:26

    Hey Alianora. A lot of manufacturing places would still have floppy drives on theyre CAM machinery like CMM machines for inputing CAD drawings. {Comment #572}

    In that case, I suppose it is plausible for McLaren to have had floppy drives still in their computers. It just seems strange that they haven't switched to CD burners or something of that kind for file transfer. Easier to secure and not as unreliable.

    (USBs would have been out of the question because security on those is a nightmare).