Hello my dears, how are you? Long time no see, in terms of daily posts, anyway. I hope you had a nice weekend, nice enough that Monday is not such a drag. Do not worry. If you don't like Mondays, it will soon be Tuesday, and they're not so bad.
What are you going to be doing today? It's the first day of Wimbledon today, and just like last year, I'm hoping we'll have a post for every day of the Championships. I may or may not be Factbyte Factboxing some of the bigger matches too, it all depends on the weather. As do most things when it comes to Wimbledon. If you're interested in tennis, keep an eye out for the live post coming later today.
Martí has a new blog, which he just set up recently. It's in Spanish, which you should be proficient at after many weeks of Spanish Wednesdays, but if not, there's a handy translate button in the sidebar. Martí also set up a motorsport focused Life List - things he wants to achieve around the world of racing. I love the idea of a themed life list, it's something that never really occurred to me before. Go and check it out, and why not come up with your own list of things you'd like to do? It's really quite an inspiring and motivational thing to do.
If you've been wondering where the podcast is, Mr C and I finally managed to record the latest F1 Debrief show yesterday, and it should be out at some point during the day. It's another long one. The more we hope for shorter shows, the more there is to talk about.
Whilst I'm self-promoting, don't forget that it's Christine's Rankings tomorrow, and all suggestions are very welcome. The non-race weekends are always difficult to judge. Sometimes the drivers and teams go into hiding and there is very little to dish out points for, but other times they are busy doing all the things they can't do when there's a race on which makes it a bumper points week. Which will it be this time? If you spot something, do shout. Mark it with the hashtag #rankings in the comments, and I'll be sure to see it.
I may as well continue the theme and plug our app and book once more. I also want to say a massive thank you to everyone who bought the book, or purchased the app. These are things that Mr C and I have been working on for ages, they've been both hard and brilliant at the same time, and the support of the Sidepodcommunity means a lot. So, thank you.
It can only be left to say congratulations to Giggles and Kat, who welcomed Baby Giggles into the world yesterday. Nina already has her own domain and Twitter account, so we're expecting a comment any day now. I shall head to the comments to wait, and I might see you there.
Have you seen these recent posts on sidepodcast.com?
- Daily: 20th June 2011
- Live: 2011 Milwaukee 225
- Daily: 19th June 2011
- Daily: Saturday June 18th
- An Aside with Joe - It's been very Vettelacious
Love the daily Christine :) I think Paul Di Resta should get some points for joining/returning to Twitter...
.. and erm JB should get points for.. erm.. i'll have a think and get back to you!
Have you seen these recent posts on sidepodcast.com?
- Daily: 20th June 2011
- Live: 2011 Milwaukee 225
- Daily: 19th June 2011
- Daily: Saturday June 18th
- An Aside with Joe - It's been very Vettelacious
hm, interesting piece from behind the Autosport paywall - ex-Toyota F1 John Howett on possible breakaway series
http://plus.autosport.com/premium/feature/3605/why-f1-breakaway-could-happen-this-time/
Great daily, Christine! Thank you for covering for me! I'm struggling to typr on Turkey-machine's iphone...the keys om these thimgd are tiny.0
Morning all
Super extra bonus congrats to Alex and Katherine
:D
Just found this interview of Leo Sayer from last year.
Ron Dennis let him drive an F1 car, but he didnt know he had only had a driving licence for a week! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpHglB7ckA
Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/wimbledon-2011-day-1
hehe, love leo!
joe seems to think the "bbc to drop f1" rumour has merit: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/bbc-to-drop-f1/#comment-55770
"I believe that the BBC will cut F1."
comments later that he has new sources. also jake is none to confident either:
"Unsure of the future, I do know viewing is at a 10 year high and people love F1 on the BBC"
yikes.
Our team are in the midst of booking your accom for the Race weekend in Korea. It will be somewhere nearby the track for ease of getting there over the race weekend.
is the best paragraph I've read in an email in a while. Phew.
Possibly, but me thinks the BBC are also lining up for negotiations. Murdoch's corporation plays hard, but the BBC can play just as hard.
Bernie need to decide if potentially losing more than 50% of the audience is worth the risk for a big cheque. For those who haven't seen the viewing figures for big matches on Sky, they are often pathetic numbers.
Hope 5 Live keep covering it!
Kevin Eason seems to agree.
easonF1
Bernie Ecclestone tells The Times he wants F1 to stay with the BBC and will try to persuade execs
31 minutes ago
IIRC, that is a separate contract, so that may be safe.
5Live's coverage is done by UPC productions, so unless they decide to drop it it'll keep going. That would be a separate contract I believe.
USP Content.
To be fair to the BBC, they have tied their own hands again. They do a great job, but they cannot continue to spend that kind of money when they are dropping other services due to cutbacks...
Close
:)
they didn't get a choice about the cutbacks. and they had to keep 6music going when they didn't want to.
mind you that's a bargain compared to f1.
Not sure if at this moment Bernie would in favour of any move in Sky direction given those News Corp take over rumours and spins ...
BBC should bid for coverage in Asia and nick it from Murdoch's Star Sports. It is on pay channel here already so people so no groundbreaking shock and could generate even some income :-) Star does nothing other then cutting the world feed into 10 mins segments and filling the gaps with noisy 5 min ad breaks. That's it, no interactive stuff, no online additional coverage ... Lot's of revenue to be explored ...
In fairness, 6Music has the quality and the numbers to back it up. BBC 3 and BBC 4 TV stations are less tenuous though...
most of bbc radio is vastly overmanned. was reading this the other day:
"More people work on the Radio 1 breakfast show than at Xfm in its totality."
holy cow.
http://www.thecmuwebsite.com/article/bbc-radio-overstaffed-who-knew-myers-report-summary/
Slightly skewered - Radio 1 and 2 are overmanned. Most of the other stations are quite stretched for people.
Its just reptive though, Its not 1910, there is no need for the bbc to have 5 music channels. Its no wonder that the UK is one of the few places in the world commercial radio struggles.
Similarly there is no real need to have BBC 2,3 and 4 you could easily consolidate that lot into 3 channels.
radio numbers are the highest now than they've been since the late-90's
Indeed. When asked to cut back, it's the elephant in the room.
I'm not familiar with the new BBC channels or why they have so many these days.
BBC Radio has an appeal because there's no ads, too.
agreed. sounds like if bernie wants to keep f1 on the bbc, he may have to give it away.
The BBC should be able to make do with 2 Music stations and 2 talk stations.
Everyone can still get a bit of what they like, but just a little less in total.
Just because they cover niche content doesnt mean it should have a dedicated chanel 24/7
The appeal is that they cover so many cultural bases. They cover so much, it's just brilliant.
You need to listen around. The main channels (bar Radio 1 & 2) are vastly different and that's not taking into account the local stations that can also be checked out ion the iPlayer site.
I guess its all part of the negotiations for the concorde.
Great way to split the teams.
-Those with sponsors who want FTV vs those with minimal sponsorship who want a high TV
Wouldnt be suprised if Bernie was behind the whole thing come to think of it
There's never a need for 2 talk stations. Considering the vast breadth of cultures in this country, 2 radio channels would never cut it.
Oh great, they've already started a twition...
oh lord
One does news sport, the other does Drama and documentaries. especialy usefull for those who are visually impared,
They can still cover all they do on the music stations with 2 channels. Instead of 3 hours every day some genres will have to have 3 hours twice a week.
If there is demand for more someone will start a commercial station.
That'll show'em!
Is that bring back james allen one still around? :) Might be fun to promote that as a counter movement :P
or let BBC to produce the world feed and both could share the spoils, lower price for those who take just the feed, premium for those taking the entire production ...
I disagree - one of the merits of the BBC is that it gives an avenue for sections of the community that will always be ignored by commercial entities. As a public broadcaster, the BBC have that part of their remit nailed perfectly.
I also think you're underestimating how many listeners these marginalised stations get - they do tick all of their boxes
That would make sense, I am sure the like of Abu Dhabi sports here would take the whole thing as they have no english language production, just the race feed
I should also add, another station covering niche or culture-specific styles would only serve to decimate listenership numbers, which is good for no one
You can still do that, Just spend less time and money on each.
For example. People intrested in 21st century jazz music, can have a show twice a week. They are still being catered for, just not 7 days a week.
The economist in me says they will spend their money or attention elsehwere which is good for the enconomy :P
But fair enough, I guess we agree to disagree
Joe's written about it further: http://wp.me/ppB1o-1M8
No-one doubts the quality of the BBC coverage and the viewing figures have been doing very well, although they are not perhaps as large as the BBC hoped that they would be, there are some harsh realities that F1 must face
I question this line from Joe - when viewing figures are nearly twice what they had during the ITV years, then one wonders what they were expecting.
By the way, official viewing figures do not count the iPlayer, which @5LiveF1 tells me is around 1 million extra set of eyeballs
at the end it may not matter what they were expecting but there will be budget for ... at the end - how much more money BBC takes in for every extra set of eyeballs aimed at F1 coverage ?
cool, I found my 5 year old on the photo from the Red Bull run in Hong Kong on F1.com :-)
Benson thinks Jenson (hehe) will stay at mclaren next year http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/formula_one/13839176.stm
(he was the one who broke the news of his move there)
When people talk about saving money by cutting less used radio stations and the sprawling web content I don't think they realise how little difference that would make. It's really not where the money is spent... Here's a breakdown of your monthly tv licence bill:
Department Monthly cost (GBP)
BBC ONE £3.52
BBC TWO £1.52
Transmission and collection costs £1.08
Nations and English Regions television £1.04
BBC Radio 1, 2, 3, 4 and Five Live £1.02
Digital television channels £1.00
Nations' and local radio 68p
BBC Online 36p
BBC Jam 14p
Digital radio stations 10p
Interactive TV (BBC Red Button) 8p
Total £10.54
(based on 2006 numbers).
Just to be clear BBC Jam has already been canned... (it was tv for schools essentially).
Probably with 2006 is that it doesn't take into account BBC 3&4, plus their expanded digital content
There is that
:)
Clearly they just need to drop BBC1 and BBC Jam, should think they need to be in the breakfast spreads business anyway
Ah, glad the jam is in the can :)
BBC International doesn't do live sports though.
We may need to wait to see what BBC iPlayer International does. Contracts may be changed vastly in the next few years.
I'm not optimistic. BBC Asia barely show any non-news content now. They've even stopped showing Top Gear.
there are som many things so many companies did not do in the past and do now, like Apple and telephones ...
in Hong Kong we have 5-6 BBC channels on cable ... Top Gear is on one of them ...
Sorry, Wolf, but I just don't see the BBC splashing out on an international non-UK contract. Unless Bernie gives it for free.
There's no way that the international iPlayer will have any sports on it - 5Live certainly doesn't-
It's not on ours though.
You're missing the issue here - each show that is on the BBC iPlayer has any individual license agreement, whether it be on in the UK or not. Each show will be treated individual.
well, I do not see it either unless it made financial sense. all I want to say is that in Asia we are already used to pay for the F1 coverage + the coverage seriously infested with ads = room for revenue . in UK if BBC pay for F1 what extra revenue they get ? no advertising, no extra TV license income ...
So why did they take it back the last time ITV let it go?
the NBA and NFL have sold all of their TV rights directly to Apple TV, which is charging viewers for access to the games using different payment structures to allow for the casual viewers and the hard core fans.
is that worldwide then? i haven't seen nba or nfl on our apple tv, am i missing something?
I'm guessing it's not. May just be Stateside.
Could still be territorial - are they show in other territories on cable or anything like that?
I don't know, because F1 is cool and they had budget which now they may not have ?
they had plenty of money back then. the economy hit ITV much harder and faster than the BBC, due to their reliance on advertising revenue that had dried up.
I think they had a lot of issues of bad management as well for a while
Am just a bit surprised the BBC didn't see this coming. The financial shortfall, I mean. Still, I think Bernie will seriously reduce the price just to stick with the BBC. I don't think he and ITV parted on good terms. And he's probably not keen to lose a proxy war with Murdoch.
Have you seen these recent posts on sidepodcast.com?
- Wimbledon 2011: Day 1
- Daily: 20th June 2011
- Live: 2011 Milwaukee 225
- Daily: 19th June 2011
- Daily: Saturday June 18th
to put things into perspective - cable here pays about HK$1,000,000,000 (GBP80,000,000 more less these days) for 3 year deal for English Premier League. That covers area inhabited by 7 million people. Coverage has lots of ads (although not interrupting the play, not yet) + it cost about HK$150/month for subscription of the EPL channels... about the same we pay for channels that come in the package that incudes Star Sports... any other major sports event costs extra ... we are getting ripped off here from every angle for any sport yet nobody able to provide decent coverage seems to be interested in coming in :-)
exactly why ESS can afford to produce crappy coverage - because they know no one has the money or resources to challenge Murdoch + Disney in Asia.
he'll probably end up almost giving it away, then using it to reduce teams revenue during the next coincord agreement.
On another note, would an F1 return to ITV feature the return of... James Allen?
not in everything but Eurosport did Le Mans, Setanta came in with rubgy ... sport by sport it can happen ... F1, anyone ?
Oh dear Lord
sadly, yup. but i think sky will take it over itv. if only because itv's hd capabilities are dreadful.
wow nobody said f1 photogs couldn't have a favourite.. but a whole set of Lewis Hamilton images on your website?
http://danielkalisz.viewbook.com/lewis_hamilton
Eurosport, maybe. Setanta... bit of a long shot, IMO. But Eurosport will have to spend a lot on it, as they have to start an F1 team from scratch. They haven't broadcasted F1 since 1996.
Egads. Joe did say ITV will bid for it, though.
if they get it, they'll have to rent an awful lot of HD equipment from the beeb :)
I do remember ITV spending a lot when they got F1 for 1997. They even had their own studio at the track and everything.
Dont they own a chunk of channel 5?
They could put a FTA package on CH5 in SD with ads and minimal pre & post race coverage
Then have a premium offering on Sky Sports in HD with lots more coverage around the weekend + GP2, GP3
they used bbc camera's and crew though.
murdoch does, i think.
interesting.
I am not suggesting that any of these two should do it. But they came in with sports and events they are already covering somewehere else and got the deal here as well. No extra production cost but more revenue ...
Star TV used to have almost a monopoly over all Asia with their English football coverage, now that is over, very few places still have EPL on Star TV. May be, one day, that will happen to F1 too ( #onecandreamon)
actually, wikipedia says otherwise. *shrugs*
Still have it on Star where we are.
Like your hashtag, BTW. :D FWIW, if the Sky news is true, maybe we'll see a single team doing English F1 coverage globally? That may see the end of the Steve Slater saga. That's about the only silver lining I can see for us here.
out of interest. why isn't motogp coverage in danger?
or he will be the one, scary though but he is on Murdoch's payroll now !
hmmm. very good question. no news isn't necessarily good news, though, IMO. they could still be axed. especially considering two stations show it in the UK.
Surely he won't be good enough for the UK? Please, please let them see the truth.
may be much much cheaper ... the race fees are definitely (although even Brno with their large crowds may have to bow out after this year unless they get government to pay the hosting fees)
They could always get Karol Abraham's dad to pay for it. :D
how the logic that says "if he is good for billions he must be good for millions too" ? :-)
he is the owner of the track ...
they currently employ eddie jordan. good luck with that.
Well, I guess he can't pay for a race AND a MotoGP team, after all...
you never seen or heard Steve Slater ... EJ is genius !
if talent had anything to do with anything, james allen wouldn't have lasted 7 races, let alone 7 seasons.
He's better than Slater. Easily. At least EJ asks the tough questions. I'd take EJ any day.
An EJ + Gary Anderson pairing would be great, IMO. The two built Jordan from the ground up, and know each other very well.
and while all this BBC talk is going on, the BBC website kind of stopped functioning for me here ... did they pull some plug ? :-)
all relative. i'd take JA over Slater as well. (yes, it's THAT bad.)
which is why i too take such an interest over the BBC F1 contract (even if it shouldn't affect us directly). if you lower the ceiling on how good F1 coverage is, it'll also lower the floor on how bad F1 coverage can become.
weird, all my webtraffic crashed, no website works except this one :-) what on Earth have you done to the web ? :-)
all good for me, but did darren heath really submit this as big picture of the week?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13145834.stm
dreadful.
ooops!
he's really not trying is he
Anyone with good glass could've taken that ;)
is it darren or the bbc who decides what the big picture will be?
any one of us could've taken that with a mobile phone.
Has anyone here listened to the new Arctic Monkeys album yet?
Hello world.
I am in my high school, but I've found an open computer hehehe.
How are you?
ps. Thanks to Christine for those nice words about my blog :)
Yes
couple of competitions for f1 fans: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/a-chance-in-a-lifetime-to-join-an-f1-team/
i'll happily go out and take pics for the bbc if they need someone who is actually interested in submitting them work..
What did you think of it? I liked the first album - and I think I like this one, but they've changed a lot eh?
It's a good mark up on "Humbug" and far better than "Favourite...", but lacks the maturity of their debut.
A good listen and notice of a bad taking chances, albeit small ones.
Me says 7/10
:)
I think I've heard some of their songs, but I am not sure... What kind of music do they play?
I was reading some articles where they were saying living in the USA has made them write more 'english' then they realised.
I don't mind the artic monkeys....I did always suspect they were a bit of a 'trendy' band to follow and subsquent albums would be the true test of their musicianship.
Haven't heard the new album yet though...probably not likely to get it unless heavily recommended.
Well, at four albums in, it should be possible to start drawing on their - scale of musicianship, as it were
You can hear it on Spotify, I guess...
I think it's what I'll do, before deciding if I go to the music shop or not.
I really liked their debut album, not sure about nightmare, and the new album shows theyve changed a lot...
On an actual musical I thought they were actually very poor technically...a lot of 3 and 4 chord trick songs, yet to see a virtuoso peice of playing. But that's not the artic monkeys...as songwriters they are excellent, as muscians they're not technically that gifted at all. Infact I'd go so far as to say part of their big appeal (if not the main appeal) is the song lyrics and concepts..
I've searched in Google and I've found out that they are really young.
I guess they must be still searching their sound, their way to produce music.
It's what their fanbase want and they do it in quite a clever way. As long as they don't turn into U2 or Kings of Leon (shudder), I'll be happy - don't know about everyone else though.
;)
Pretty much agree with that
Mid-20's... they've been at it for a while and Turner does have his side-projects as well.
Canada race edit UP!
http://www.formula1.com/video/
Will you be at Valencia this weekend? If the answer is yes, you should participate in this contest.
You could win two tickets for David Guetta's concert, which will be celebrated near the Street Circuit.
It's not my style of music, but here it is the link. You may find it useful ;)
http://www.caranddriverthef1.com/formula1/noticias/2011/06/20/suscribete-caranddriverthef1com-y-gana-una-entrada-doble-para-el-f1-roc
Yeah what's happened to Kings of Leon? Sunk without a trace...they seemed like they'd stick around a little more. Took em years to break the mainstream and now they've gone....huh? :-)
And Mozart died an anonymous pauper. Widespread appeal does not necessarily mean quality, but that an argument for a different time.
Went 3 years ago, city is great, beach right behind the grandstand even better. Pity the races are boring ...
Yes, that's what I always earn money for Barcelona's race :) It may not be the most amazing race of F1's history, but the circuit is great and there's a better athmosphere, I think, although they all support Alonso :s
You don't need to tell me that....I'm not anti the charts but if it's in them there's a good chance i'll think it's dross and steer clear.
Personally, I think if it's good then it doesn't matter how well (or badly) it does
expect bernie to tie up the .f1 domain: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110619_new_top_level_domains_are_approved_by_icann/
www.loadsacash.f1
Hmmm... has a nice ring to it
That article is an absolutely breaking new!
He will tie up the .f1 domain, the .formula1 and the .formulaone, you can count on it.
In fact, actually there are three official F1's domains on the net, the ones I wrotte above.
If you've ever felt irritated at how you've been treated by a call center, you might like this.
Belgian comedians Basta play a phone prank on a telecom giant known for its abysmal customer service (Mobistar). Their elaborate scheme involves a shipping container, a telephone line and a lot of laughs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxXlDyTD7wo&feature=player_embedded
Time to leave. My classes will restart in a few minutes.
See you later :)
see you marti
For those who were playing the podcast guessing game yesterday, I think we're looking at 1hr 11. Close guesses all, no one spot on.
eek!
To be honest, I think this is a great idea. It's an expensive proposition to buy those complete domains, but it's worth it for name recognition.
ohh!
185k is nothing to bernie. he might struggle with .f1, he doesn't actually have the trademark, but .formulaone is guaranteed.
i think he'll get f1 and formula1 (he owns those dotcom domains), but he'll struggle with formulaone because he doesn't own that domain (try going to formulaone.com and tell me what you see).
only because they won't sell it to him. the whole point of this new initiative is to help companies who are the victim of cybersquatting. they only care who owns the trademark to a brand.
but if he owns the domain, surely that's the best possible way of saying you should have a right to a given trademark?
nope. owning a domain proves nothing. having a trademark registered with trademark offices around the world proves you have the trademark.
and he doesn't for f1.
How come he can go after everyone who uses F1 then?
so why has no one claimed (or even asked about) the f1.com domain yet? the way i see it, if no one else wants it, then i don't see any reason why he shouldn't have a right to .f1.
he can't legally. but he does because he has more money than the people he goes after. and who has enough money to fight bernie?
bernie has the f1.com domain.
If I had enough money to fight bernie, I wouldn't I'd just enjoy my money.
He actually forced the previous owners of f1.com from that domain...
exactly. if someone feels they have a right to it, surely they'd go after bernie? at the very least they'd announce their intention to go after it to show they have a claim to it.
He can only go after people who use F1 if it is in the category sports. For example, anyone can use F1 for different industries
you're vastly missing the point of GTLD's. they are designed to allow people to protect their brand. not to squat on brands so that no-one else can have it.
if bernie can prove he owns the trademark to f1, then he can have it. but right now, he cannot prove that.
that was formula1.com, actually. not f1.com. hmmm, might be best to check the web archives for this one...
f1 is considered a generic term now. e.g. it's used in too many different scenarios for one person to own it.
agreed.
ahhh. they also bought the f1.com domain, but let it redirect to formula1.com. so when Bernie/FOM took over, they left it as is.
probably. The point was, someone got there first, made a decent F1 website and was promptly told to give it back to Bernie because it was his trademark.
did they give it back? i thought they sold it after some negotiation?
i don't know the details, but if the domain was handed back because of a perceived existing trademark, they were fools.
Don't remember, don't care. The point was, they were compelled not to hold onto it for some reason or another.
One hopes they sold it. I wonder who would know more about this?
either way, if he can prove the trademark is his, he can have the .f1 domain name and if not, then it's open to someone else to prove it's theirs (or it'll be left unused).
i think it's good for the web though. http://itunes.apple makes much more sense to consumers as a web address.
http://f1ngers.com/about-us
Was it you or someone else, Gavin, who was part of f1ngers?
Anyway, it looks like it indeed end up in court, with Bernie saying FOM had the trademark. And he won.
*it DID indeed
"They argued that since they held the rights and the trademarks to F1, Purple I should not be operating a site under the F1.com name. This was taken to the courts, and Bernie won of course. "
crazy, because he doesn't. but he has the money to fight it out regardless.
indeed so.
Yeah it was me and Pat W. That was a long time ago though.
Who does own them and why doesn't Bernie?
i'm not sure ICANN are going to be so easily convinced. but i could easily be very wrong.
F1ingers??
no-one does. see here: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89518
Yeah, don't ask.
Fair enough
oh, it's locked. the important bit:
There is no likelihood of confusion between the mark applied for and Formula One Licensing's marks, given the low degree of similarity between the marks and the descriptive character that the public attributes to the abbreviation 'F1'," the ruling said.
So one court said they did, and this court said they didnt?
they lost in 2007 too: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/07/12/uk-motor-racing-trademark-idUKL1247005120070712
Interesting.
as far as i know, no court has ever recognised FOM as trademark owner of the term F1.
how or why they bamboozled anyone into handing over a domain name is beyond me. maybe the fact they were squatting on formula1.com mean they had to give all of them up?
could very well be the case. but if the judge was thoughtful enough, surely they could've split the verdict for both sides?
back 1999, how many judges understood the internet enough? curious that formulaone.com still evades capture though.
actually, they state they own the trademark to FormulaOne in the US. i guess bernie can't fight that.
incidentally the title page of formula1.com has a (tm) symbol next to F1. given how many times he's been told he can't trademark it, that's a bit cheeky :)
wonder if this works?
that's a pretty cool baguette™
cool baguette is a registered trademark of Eric, the baker, infringement will be punished to the fullest extent of the law
yes! :D
poor bertrande :(
Aye - not only does he not have a drive at the minute, he's now going to get sued because of his surname...
I really should do up a new baguette scored with his name again and get a better photo of it online. The last one was fun, but the photo was terrible.
:)
What's the legal difference in the UK between ® and ™ ?
In the US at least one is legally more protected than the other.
Reserved is awaiting trademark conformation and TM is when the trademark is solidified - or vice versa...
Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/f1-debrief-hes-been-the-voice-of-reason-this-season
Knackered after that! :)
not a clue, but i was reading this list from apple the other day and they seem to use both: http://www.apple.com/legal/trademark/appletmlist.html
*huuuuuuuugs*(
He can use that symbol, it doesnt really mean anything. But he cant use the R or C versions as they do
from wikipedia:
The trademark symbol, designated by ™ (the letters TM written in superscript style), is a symbol used to provide notice that the preceding mark is a trademark. Use of this symbol does not mean that the trademark has been registered as registered trademarks are indicated using the Registered trademark symbol (®). Anyone can use the ™ symbol
Aaahh... my vice-versa was right
:)
ah-ha. cheers.
Interesting. I wonder how that works on the World Wide web when you have a trademark registered in one country, but not others where a page might be viewed.
I dont even think you have to apply to register it, it just indicates that you consider it a brand
You don't have to, but from a legal standpoint, it's best if you do
this rings a bell from my business law days. Although I was sitting next to a girl on the tram yesterday who was apparently on her way to a business law exam as she was reading the 2007 exam paper and as I read over her shoulder I realised I remember 0% of what I learned at uni :)
You could probably get away with it unless you became an issiue for the rightfull holder from a legal point of view.
Getting away with it from google would be a lot harder
Also, there's no real time limit on a TM mark - you can just keep extending it over and over again.
There is something to cover this, but as it's so long since I did trademark's at uni, I can remember exactly what
I love and hate the conversations here. On one hand, I learn so much. On the other hand, I get started on paths of knowledge that I never thought I'd go on. The conversation about trademark marks, got me looking at other punctuation marks.
I discovered one I'll need to start using more often.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_mark
wonder if it'll work?
؟
Looks great؟
:)
Hehehe.
So I woke up today to more news on the apparent BBC lack of interest in F1... I don't suppose anyone would be interested in a good ol 'merican view of this mess? As someone who has sat through too many FOX/Speed F1 broadcasts I think I could shed some light on why this is a horrible, awful idea/development.
Not that SPC is lacking for american comments.
guest posts are always welcome, please do :0
oops. smileyfail. meant :)
lou, I was mostly incommunicado for the entire weekend, so I didn't see your reaction.
I'm curious how did your viewing of Back to the Future go? Did you enjoy the movie?
Do any of you know if there's a strong online racing presence amongst Sidepodders? I race a lot online and probably take it way too serious.....but it'd be nice to know if there's others out there.
Fundamentally, these machinations will be bad for fans of F1 around the world, since the beeb has, hands down, the best all around english speaking coverage.
I can promise you that if NEWSCORP gets it's hands in the F1 pie you will look back and say 'someone DID tell us so'
I think we have a general idea of how it might turn out - when I think Newscorp owning the rights to F1, my mind instantly goes to the state of NASCAR / IndyCar broadcasts on ABC or Fox
We know NEWSCORP very well from their dealings with the Premiership Football league...
Pure unadulterated greed...
I can understand the BBC may struggle to hold onto the sport due to the cost......but i'm being very blunt about this...I don't see the value in Wimbledon being retained over F1.......I shudder to think what the BBC spend on taking people to the Olympics....
K....understood....
What's the best way of linking in the BBC coverage with coalition spending?
If it directly relates to F1, then there's leeway. But I'm just about to go back and delete the comments about campaign donations and stuff. This is not the place.
Fair enough....for what's it worth, concern about cutting coverage is preaching to the masses on F1 websites. Kinda of a dead end debate really
personally i dislike a lot of what the bbc do for f1.
i'd love sky to do to f1 what it did to football. and if EJ gets fired in the process, well so be it :)
Much different situation. In terms of production, the football league was an amateur sport until 1992 - the coverage was routinely awful when Sky came in. The money that they brought helped the teams pimp up their stadiums and squads and whatnot.
I don't how F1 needs the same thing - in my opinion, not only is the BBC F1 coverage the best in the world, it's the best its ever been.
But Christine these two things are now factually related. When...gov't owns and operates the aired contents of F1, even indirectly, and says they'd like to axe this sport from their lineup due to 'austerity' or whatnot, it's not wholly beyond the reach of fans of the sport to look into the implications of business and politics.
As I mentioned, Bahrain is a perfect example of what's happening re:politics and F1. I'm not trying to poke the beehive, but maybe help a predominately 'foreign' audience understand why these deals are incredibly suspicious.
I am a liberal, true enough, but I'm also a huge fan of F1 and see things your audience may not know about. But I do respect your intent to keep those kinds of discussions out of your coverage. I'm not wanting to upset the applecart
not really. before sky came in, every football match happened on a saturday afternoon. they made it so matches were played at times convenient for fans, they introduced monday night football and turned it into an event worth watching.
the government does not own or operate the bbc.
...that not a whole lot of people watch. The big numbers are still with MotD.
i'm not sure i was talking numbers? in terms of presentation, the bbc could do a lot better for f1, and given the chance, sky could make those changes happen.
umm...so, why then are they talking about cutting F1 for budget reasons, etc? I don't fully know the scope of how the BBC operates but it's sounding as if there is political pressure being applied here in order to 'save money'. I'll look into it a bit deeper I guess...
I rely on Joes blog for more info than I should, I guess. Seems like he's always known more than he lets on.
Many fans would argue the huge wages brought in via money flooding the sport diluted our homegrown talent and created a whole class of undeserving sportsmen. To think that the country went mad when Andy Cole sold for the shock figure of £8.5 million in the mid 90's....
At any rate, this is business, increasingly less political and more about the money, and where it goes. I fear for F1 as my favorite sport, as it's one of the last 'untouched' big-money sports that hasn't been cut up to pieces in the pursuit of more profits for more people. So far, BE has been the primary beneficiary/actor, at least publicly
To further that many clubs are now in debt because of the money. Of course this isn't all directly related to Sky, but the presence of their money has made clubs overspend. Do we want F1 teams to get the severe amount of debt as well?
In some ways I think of F1 as controlling and being it's own broadcast supplier, simply partnering with media outlets around the world to publish a package that "F1 Multimedia" produces on it's own.
I'll write something up anyways, see if you feel it's a political rant or something other than that. Again, I respect what you guys have done for F1 coverage over the last few years. I've been lurking about for almost 3 years now and you've done a great job. There just aren't that many great F1 fansites in the US upon which our viewpoints can be expanded upon
...and then he went and did that R&B single....
I think it's a sensible decision to look at one single internet broadcaster but i'm yet to watch ANY event that is in high quality streaming, in sync with the actual event (ie GT beign 5 mins out) and doesn't crash/freeze...
Can you see Bernie putting in the money for decent bandwidth? He'd have us paying to watch in colour if he could
I think you should keep it straight factual, and avoid "conservative" and other divisive terms.
...and have us thank him for the privilege
;)
Yes, if it nets him $$$ (or pounds, if you must).
One thing that baffles me with Bernie....what 'drives' (hee hee) him to continue doing it year in year out....He's got enough money now surely
wikipedia has more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC
government set licence fees (which they've frozen), plus additional grants.
Assuming money is what drives him. Most wheeler dealers I've ever met are just pushed by "success".
Obviously Bernie's success is of a different scale, but the idea (kind of) applies.
Fair enough, however it is typically from that approach in which big money interests lie. Public infrastructure is one of the last competitors to a wholly capitalist-owned society. It is direct competition for some business interests, afterall, and the pursuit of profits trumps public need more often than not theses days. If there was just some balance I wouldn't mind so much.
I'm really not a conspiracy theorist, I swear it. I just paid attention to my economics prof.
Moving on...
How about them Red Sox?
I would seriously enjoy being able to stream races without feeling 'dirty' for the way I have to do it now.
I get he might be driven by success....I just would've thought he wants some time to retire....
All this travelling around can't be doing him any good health wise....
Who knows eh?
I can't watch the red sox, due to MLB blackout restrictions. Similar to national F1 blackout restrictions, i.e. I can't obtain BBC coverage here because FOX owns US rights
just seen this now, I'm still downloading it (i really hate my internet ) :( nearly done tho!
Still..?!
Cool! I hope you enjoy it. I'm pretty sure you will.
the problem with politics is that talk of it immediately excludes people.
we don't understand (or even care about) US politics, because we don't have a vote there.
you likely don't care about our who's elected in our town council because it has no bearing on your life.
in a global community local (or national) politics can only serve to divide people, and the only exception is something like bahrain, when their politics directly affect f1.
i don't care what obama is doing to fix your healthcare system because ours is just dandy. no doubt you think it's very important and so might a few others reading the comments. but mostly it's irrelevant to the majority of peoples lives.
f1 is political, there's no escaping that fact, but i don't care how f1 problems relate to whatever local party you support. that make any sense?
well he probably wouldn't have such a pretty young wife without the globetrotting lifestyle, would he? He's not exactly...prime handsome chiseled-jaw model guy...Of course my taste in men is limited to being heterosexual so I couldn't explain what ladies might find attractive about him.
Tell me you've seen it before?
My OH has never seen anything that's been vageuly successful in the past 20 years.....when in Florida doing the theme park rides (Universal Studios/Disney) I got blank faces to the following films
Back To The Future
ET
The Terminator
Jaws
Honey I Shrunk The Kids
Jurassic Park
Indiana Jones
Star Wars
Need I go on?..............
that was a slightly bigger rant than i'd planned. oops.
:D
That was erm quite....(ponders correct term)...'cutting' for you :-)
Considering a Doctor Who DVD tonight - I'm just in that mood
:)
sorry. communities are hard to run. i like twitter ;)
Ohh the opiate of the lefties.....
Only joking......we don't do politics here...:-)
Like I say, I understand this. I'm talking outside of political parties, outside of just national politics. NEWSCORP is successful, in part, because of their affiliation with one political party in the US. I'm not wishing to espouse US politics to your audience, other than how it relates to F1 developments, like who may come to own F1, and it's broadcasting.
There does exist an apolitical point of view in regards to the business side of things.
I must admit, I do enjoy watching the periodic videos that surface of one MP yelling at another in a session. I've seen it from a lot of different nations as well. But it's essentially a simple affirmation that people act the same all over the world.
fox news is a pile of pants, there's no escaping that, we're subject to it here too.
news corp also run sky news here though, and at the moment, and that's considerably better.
BTW, I do follow UK politics. We're more than just a little tied together on those big issues. Some of us over here try to keep abreast of international issues. Greece, for one, is frightening to those who understand the consequences. Can't keep your head in the dirt all the time. The sport that drew us all here is dependent on smoothly operating national governments, afterall.
Still, it all goes back to having a decent F1 feed to watch. They only just started streaming P1 and P3 in the US this year, and it's spotty coverage at best.
For the record, I did not intend to start any kind of political conversation here. Just wanted to chime in with some ideas.
no probs chappie. we don't like deleting comments either, but it's a world of hurt that isn't worth getting into :)
Never thought I'd say this, but here, talk about DRS instead: http://www.f1minute.com/news/double-drs-to-continue-in-valencia-with-single-activation-point
:)
*hugs*
Well now that I know what kind of tone to take it'll be easier to throw something together that won't be incredibly controversial. I'd like for more people to see what I see from a US perspective
ace :)
even if we don't all agree on the root causes, lol.
BTW, DRS is WIN all the way. Outside of eliminating the front/rear wings, it's one of the only ways to get the competition back on the track.
they're mental, unless they're trying to put people off DRS altogether, it needs two activation points.
Hmmmm.... having one of those afternoons, whereby I'm waiting urgently for something and at 4.45pm, it still isn't here yet
:/
nope. but i saw it on itunes the other day and i'm watching lots of films at the moment, so i thought it was about time i caught up with things and found out why they're so good :)
So where are the aqctivation point in valencia? I have thoroughly detested the races in valencia because the track is horribly designed. It got better with the different colored walls last year, so you could actually tell where they were at on track, but it was still incredibly boring, even with the safety-car incidents
Autosport has a groovy map: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92476
Maybe we'll see the green building! :)
I can't wait!
danke. I really wish there was more integrated info on the web. I've found hard to orgainze my bookmarks for all the apps, feeds, promotional stuff, etc etc.all over the place...
one of valencia's great attractions, i believe
seems like every race a hundred new, one-race-only promos pop up, and then it's all new for the next race. some web devs are incredibly busy out there
I've been migrating more and more to Firefox and saved sessions
red bull made an app just for the canadian gp. madness.
exactly. They must be spending small fortunes every race for hosting and bandwidth. Each team has it's own delivery methods, it's no wonder newbies are having a hard time following or even picking a favorite team/driver
right folks, i'm off - see you later
ugh got me thinking about speeds' cluttered, poorly linked F1 section. Nearly impossible to navigate from article to article. Another reason I'm bothered by the recent news.
They still have clips from like 2008 buried on the site, but can't be bothered to post updated stats or info more than once a month. You guys do a much, much better job (even if the last debrief was a week in the making, lol. I know u guys are super busy).
:) :)
if I ever get out to Valencia, race or not, I'm going to that building!
What does it say about coverage when a 'hobby' site like yours is more active than a corporate rights holders' site?
It'd be awesome to be standing there, not on a race weekend, taking pictures of a green building. People would think you were crazy. I love it :)
I'd much rather pay for your services, considering the quality. Not that I can right NOW, once I make it rich I'll donate. Lots.
it says, we're quite probably... nuts.
the monthly Paypal donation is quite reasonable. Only about $8 a month if you choose the 5 pound level
can you listen to "When I Get To The Green Building" when you get there? Everytime it comes up on my shuffle I think of Valencia.
I've been out of work for the better part of a year, thanks AT&T (grumble grumble). $8 a month would feed me well at this point...I don't even have a bank account/VISA or credit cards anymore.
Although I would collect pop cans (aluminum) to pay for an HD feed on raceday. When things aren't going great, you tend to cling to distractions for you sustenance. Some days F1 is all I got to stay sane.
..and I just realized I'm a huge geek for that.
I hear ya, and I honestly wasn't trying to guilt you into donating. I know how hard times are, I used to live in a studio (1 room) apt. I was posting for others to see as much as anything.
I wonder if they'd kick me out if I set up a tent at the Austin circuit location. They don't have any facilities built yet, or I'd go beg for a job there.
"I'll dig drainage ditches, by hand, if you let me stay"
:D it is rather impressive ;) forget the city of arts and sciences the green building is the best place to go :)
Nono, it isn't like that at all. Since I've been following SPC and Joe, I haven't had enough stability to donate, but I would love to. It's the new economy. find your niche, and hope others can support your 'business'. I fully endorse this approach, I just can't help.
Hi All,
Looked at Melbourne Gp tickets today.... :D
I just wish JS would start a travel site. He lives a life I've dreamed about for years, and he's got secrets I'd love to know (like where the best hotels are, etc)
chop chop!
We'll ask him on the next show.
complete rookie at it, any pro tips?
SUPER! I wait for your 'aside' shows eagerly. He's got the knowledge and contacts to really expose the inner workings, which, again, our horrible coverage only briefly gets into. love love LOVE his work.
get a 4 corners package :)
That's what i had my eye on :D
they're fabulous and every track should have them
Off to do some research and listen to the debrief. Thinking my conclusion will be that the BBC could keep F1 and be profitable, if only they drop EJ from the crew. No other man has ever made me want to drop my laptop in the toilet as much as he. Nice guy, terrible commentary, even worse interview skills. Funny how he always has to literally drag his victims in front of the camera.
appreciated sir :)
Afternoon :)
Minor point on the .f1 and .formula1 discussion earlier.
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110620-708013.html
So if I read that correctly, that means .f1 and .formula1 is not possible.
Well I've shared your links with all 3 american F1 fans, as well. Heh.
yay!
ooooooooh. good call. formulaone it is then.
Technically, they are possible, they just won't be allowed by the regulations they're trying to adopt. All internet sites are literally numeric, i.e. 192.168.1.254, etc etc. So sidepodcast.com goes to ---.---.-.--- or something similar, it's translated by DNS servers into the proper numeric address kept on file.
What has happened today?
They could literally allow any domain name you could think of, coherant or not, so something like 'http://gravit8.jibberjabber.nutcase is wholly possible, but not 'allowed'
BTW, just so you know, there are a few American fans. I'm one of them (Bloomington Indiana).
Dang, I really am a geek.
if you can prove you own the trademark or rights to "nutcase", it'll be allowed next year.
well...that makes 4, including myself. lol.
*rushes down to trademark office
Are you still talking about the domains? :D
I sometimes think theres more Americans on this site than there are Australians, don't worry, you're not as alone as you think you are :)
hehehehe. sorry :)
Talking about them again rather than still :)
I logged on four hours ago and that was the thing we were talking about.
It's like an infinite loop :P
deja vu all over again!
and tennis is still going on, on the other channel :)
Amy, I've had to fight tooth and nail to get sports bars to change just one TV to reasonably timed F1 races here, while NASCAR is on ten others. It's a hard-won perception that American F1 fans are few and far between.
Although I must say the seat swap last week at Watkins Glen had a HUGE turnout for a promotional event. Quite surprised by that
Heys...
Yay for the mention on the Podcast :-)
I know i have an akward name (blame the french) it's pronounced Elle-iss-ah.....say Melissa but loose the M
Now where do I go to register my thoughts on the podcast....or is wiser to keeps thoughts to oneself?
Just because its not on in sports bars doesn't mean the fans aren't out there, I live in a city that has a race and theres really only one bar in the whole place that you'll find F1 races on the TV as opposed to other sports.
MartiV8, it must be you. the topic came up only second before you came back. It preceeds your presence wherever you go
Oh! I think we've reached a conclusion :D
Amy, lets just say that...erm, how to not be offensive here...'country folk' here seem to outnumber the rest of us, so that you are far more likely to see motocross and 'jackass' (you know, the movie. Using actual title of the show) style television shows where people might otherwise congregate to watch more stimulating television.
I know there are more fans out there, it's just hard to connect with them. Again, I blame the horrible coverage in the US. You might find fans on various 'car' sites, but even with several hundred thousand visitors a day (jalopnik) the F1 contingent is poorly represented.
I thought I was leaving...cutting the daily thread cord. Thanks for the input, all.
BTW, the LeMans 24 thread was an excellent idea. made the race lots more fun. Keep it up guys!
Anybody likes this man? http://www.caranddriverthef1.com/formula1/noticias/2011/06/20/suscribete-caranddriverthef1com-y-gana-una-entrada-doble-para-el-f1-roc
We are giving away 10 tickets for the concert he'll celebrate in Valencia.
Afternoon
Seems my Mac's arrived a week early. Must. Get. To. Depot
Time to switch on my F1 2010 computer game.
I must race in Monaco and I just hope I don't crash my car in the first curve... Quite caotic start.
I was always terrible at 'Cote d'Azure' on GT4
Me too... Actually I am driving for McLaren, but the car is really slow!
I should have stayed at Toro Rosso :s
Later folks
Enjoy a little something from the sidepodcast.com back catalogue.
- F1 Digest 2010 Season Preview - The Calendar
Originally published 02/03/2010
Bye Bassano
Every single time you see me posting here is because I've had a crash *angry*
I haven't caught up fully yet but I wrote that page (http://f1ngers.com/about-us), albeit we were all quite emotionally-charged at the time so it may be opinion rather than hard facts.
The old owners of formula1.com couldn't afford to fly to California to go to court over it. Curious choice of filing location..
Conflicted memory. Not sure the original page was right in that it actually made it to court, maybe it was handed over before it got that far due to threats, or maybe the judge awarded it in absentia.
Can't remember now and it doesn't really matter, Bernie's lot got their way.
figures. surprised really that 'f1 live' stood up to them. glad they did though.
What has happened?
Ping: http://martif1.com/2011/06/20/no-nos-quejemos-de-que-hay-poco-publico/
Surely that's nonsense, how would people recognise things as domain names without www.(something).com or .co.uk or .org
Have you seen these recent posts on sidepodcast.com?
- F1 Debrief - He's been the voice of reason this season
- Wimbledon 2011: Day 1
- Daily: 20th June 2011
- Live: 2011 Milwaukee 225
- Daily: 19th June 2011
if you saw http://shop.at.tesco on a billboard, you'd figure it was a web address, no?
Yeah me too even if it was an awful site. :) Did like the game they used to have on there though.
An old site used to be at formula1.com years ago and now Bernie owns it. Right that he should own it but they went about it the wrong way.
The number of people I encounter who have no concept of http:// makes me thing this is a terrible idea.
by the time this comes into effect i'm assuming we'll be pointing phones at barcodes instead of typing web addresses anyhow.
At UPS, driver won't be back until 7:30.
[was told on the phone "after 6"]
*Sits patiently for new Mac*
woohoo!
Congratulations :)
yaay!
Nina's update: http://andronovjr.com/2011/06/MeandGrandmaDaley.html
awwwwww!! soo cute!!!
I love the second picture :)
me too!! awww baby's are sooo cute!!
ruuuunnn lukeh!
Yay for Nina and her yawniness! Very sweet :)
Is Lukeh waiting for a baby?
:D
haha i really don't want my own baby, but their is no denying how cute they are.
Evening all
Only a day or two old and dominating the comments already
Hi Steven
I wonder if Kat's parents knew that with grandparenthood came Internet fame?
Hey Steven!
Christine, i was looking up tea pots and tea cups and i found one for you - http://www.thisnext.com/tag/tea-for-two-tea-set/
The next logical step would be to create a Trending Topic...
They will soon
£5k to stay with virgin racing at silverstone, in a campervan: http://www.virginexperiencedays.co.uk/experiences/Festival_Passes_Winnebago_Trailer_and_VIP_Circuit_Transfers_for_Four_1447/
*includes free broadband
you can do that in spa for far less money :)
Think I'll take Burb and the minibus rally service he provided instead
Oh my god... And I think it doesn't include a VIP pass :(
I bet you didn't have dinner with Glock.
We had dinner and they had an F1 DVD on near us, that's close enough :)
Hehe.
i wouldn't pay 5k to have dinner with Glock tho. I'll take having dinner with my friends over spending that amount of money to have one dinner with Glock and the team :)
we can't afford to go, but with free broadband, plumbed in showers, an audience with joe and the senna film. that's a pretty awesome weekend.
Just saying that technically, you can't do that in Spa for far less money.
I'm afraid we must disagree here. There is no one (that comes to mind) that I'd rather have dinner with.
Anyway, I am sure someone will pay for this
I can have a pretty awesome time in Monaco for that.
Except I can't because that's way more than I can afford, but still :)
Red Bull are leaving NASCAR at the end of the year, no reason given..
I don't follow that competition. Aren't their results good enough?
No they are terrible for the amount they are spending.
Is it because they were useless?
Then that's a logical decision :|
I like the idea of the horse whisperer calling rumours 'twaddle'. :)
http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1/News/Headlines/Pages/110620_F1_Horse_Whisperer_The_silly_season.aspx
Plus I like to read those blog posts as if a mysterious figure was floating in the sky whispering the words out slowly. Just always has that very over the top feel :D
Probably. I thought they would work at it like they did in F1.
we had the free broadband and plumbed in showers :) but I completely take your point and if i could afford to, i'd be at the virgin racing weekend any day of the week! I just think 5K for what theyre offering is a bit steep, considering they don't include race tickets. wish i had that kinda money to spend tho!
hehehe true you can't. :)
:D hehe! i wouldn't mind having dinner with any racing driver.. but i'm not paying a ridiculous amount to do so.. i'd rather snap them in the paddock :D
5K is obscene for they are offering. They are clearly pitching it at a certain clientele.
Autosport say McLaren are going to give Jenson a pay rise
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92479
you can camp there for £170. it's just i don't want to camp.
Damn right. He's been their best driver this year, they'd be stupid not to tempt him to stay.
There's quite a difference between £170 and £5k!
Exactly. And to keep rifraf like us out
here's the affordable option: http://www.virginexperiencedays.co.uk/experiences/Festival_Pass_Shared_Camping_Space_and_Circuit_Transfers_for_One_1377/
(featuring alex superfan)
popup hotel for £2k then?
http://www.virginexperiencedays.co.uk/experiences/Festival_Passes_Popup_Hotel_and_VIP_Circuit_Transfers_for_Two_1364/
WOW! Yes please.
Then the campervan should cost £250-£500.
The thing is they have an option on his contract so they can make him stay without an increase but if they are offering more money they will want him to sign a longer contract
What is this, VH1?
Sounds like a honda cardboard tent
this is truly awesome: http://www.allaboutspace.co.uk/
that plus joe, and glock? win!
it looks like an extended portaloo
made of steel?
Hehe. They do look brilliant. Although at some point, you might as well just go stay in a hotel :)
this looks awesome! i'll get saving then.. god f1 is expensive!
Steel > cardboard
I mean, if those alternatives are too expensive then there'a always this new and luxurious option for a place to stay over the F1 weekend
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/2011-06-20-1728343145_x.htm was apparently the first story on it
Yay. Just about fit in the boot. Mahoosive box
Starving now, food on the way home without leaving the car unattended. Reduces the options
So erm basically some variety of drive through :P Or call takeaway delivered to your parking space :D
For 5k you could probably stay at Whittlebury Hall and get a helicopter in.
i went too big with the winnebago. should've gone with the popup hotel.
£2k is better, but it's still £600 extra for gp tickets.
Listening to music while whiting for dinner...
Mmm... macaroni...
:)
McD's I think
f1 sucks. stupid expense.
Hi all :-)
I've just discovered Christine donnates money to protect the pandas.
http://mrschristine.com/2011/06/16/baby-panda-thursday-90/
You know, I am new in this world and I am trying to learn hehe.
Hi Elissa.
Hey Bassano you any good on F1 2010?
Christine is ever so slightly obsessed with pandas. If you ever managed to kidnap one from a zoo and deliver it to her she would be your friend for ever
I've got that game, but I am a shame for virtual motorsport hehe
Started here: http://sidepodcast.com/post/they-call-us-early-adopters
I think in Barcelona we have some of them...
More Sata than Schumi eh?
I play F1 2010 abit but defo better at Forza 3
Congratulations for doing what you do for animals. :)
How can that be 3 years ago?
I have on on the iPhone/iPad, can't say I've played it much
Timey wimey.
It has a lot to answer for
Oh I thought you had on console....np's
I'll download the Debrief and then close the computer.
Meanwhile, I'll have a shower.
See you tomorrow :)
Bye Marti
I mentioned GT4 on the PS2 earlier but that's probably covered in dust
Ps2...ouch ;-)
I thought there'd be loads of online racers on here.....looking for more fresh meat for the grinder :-)
:)
I don't need a console anymore
Am more a casual gamer these days
#sidepodspace
An ATV (European unmannned delivery vehicle) has left the ISS filled with rubbish. It will burn up in re-entry to the atmosphere. It's departure makes way for a a Progress(Russian unmanned delivery vehicle) to dock after it launches tomorrow.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/living/index.html
Meanwhile preparations are going well for the final shuttle flight. Today a cargo module with a full year's worth of supplies will be loaded into Atlantis's payload bay. This is all contained in what used to be a multi-purpose logistics module. Think of it like a giant tine can. The shuttle used to take it up and dock it to the ISS. The contents were then transferred into the station and any rubbish was transferred into it for return to Earth at the end of the shuttle mission. Now it has been modified and strengthened and will become part of the structure of the ISS.
http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts135/110619payloads/index.html
I used to play racing games reasonably heavily but not a lot online. These days the willingness is there, the time and money isn't.. and also probably the talent isn't..
Seems a waste to burn it up. Stick a heat shield on it and send it back.
It would probably cost a fortune to recover it and make it re-useable. Then you have to dispose of its contents
It does have a habit of eating yr free time up....I spend ages tuning etc
Already costs a fortune to build a one-shot capsule
Anything that goes into space is expensive. Making something re-usable must cost many times the cost of making a one shot vehicle
This is a great interview between Tavo Hellmund of the Austin GP and Gordon Kirby.
http://gordonkirby.com/categories/columns/theway/2011/the_way_it_is_no291.html
Up and running. That was quick!
Ping: http://sidepodcast.com/post/tweets-of-the-week-making-the-best-f1-shows
oohh mtc on bbc now :)
Ron Dennis was just on the tv.
there he is again!
Which program and why?
Brooklands!! ooohhh JENSON!!
i have no idea what i'm watching.. cause i'm on skype and it's on mute.. but I keep seeing the mclaren tech centre, Ron Dennis and F1 cars! ohh and the mclaren supercar..
It's a documentary about manufacturing. I ended up watching it for much the same reason. Muted the tennis while on the phone then that was on....
Are they on about bicycles now?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0125v5k
Should be on the iplayer around midnight
Found someone who actually uses the C***** Rankings.
RT @Krummster23 @TomCoronel no worries Tommy..you are still 100 places ahead of me @CastrolRankings! Maybe we are getting old..
Blimey! It's only taken two years :)
I assume that is Michael Krumm. Ithought he retired from racing 10 years ago
:)
Yeah he's been in GTs for a while, in Japan I think, but does GT1 now.
I don't follow him I saw it in an RT
So Castrol Rankings are like Alphaville? :D
I don't know what that is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c98qdFQF7sw
Couple of film watches:
http://mrschristine.com/2011/06/20/film-watch-139-paul/
http://mrschristine.com/2011/06/20/film-watch-140-the-next-three-days/
Aha! Perfect :)
where?
Nope, not here either
Looks like a rolling 12 months only, Canada 2010 is below Monaco 2011
maybe they pulled it again. odd.
Again?
pass. i can't imagine journeyer would make it up, unless it's geo-locked so that only he can see it :)
Midnight onwards, depending on your territory?
The program with Ron Dennis and the MTC that was on earlier is now on the iplayer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0125v5h/Made_in_Britain_Episode_1/
Night folks
Good night
I know industry rips off the government all the time because people who work for the government and their contractors are clueless. However on the Ron Dennis program they are doing a section on the Eurofighter Typhoon which cost £75 million each - totally ludicrous. But even better the next generation pilot's helmet will cost £250,000 each. How can a crash hat cost quarter of a million?
Guest ping - http://f1predict.blogspot.com/2011/06/2011-predictions-round-8-europe.html
I was asked to predict every position in the European GP by @F1Predict. :)
Good trick if you can do it
They should get RG to do some of his mega-predictioning next
Absolutely
don't know if this will be in use friday at glastonbury, but i love this concept:
http://www.u2.com/gigapixelfancam/
keep zooming and zooming right to the back and see everybody.
Look straight up. Even god is tagged
hahah!!