Argh! One Debrief later and my whole schedule has gone wrong. Today we're looking at a couple of launches and some testing in Portugal - although Ferrari decided against it because of the weather. Plenty of pictures should be heading our way, then, so keep your eye on the comments for that and more.

  • Williams are semi-launching the new car today. A car is turning up that may or may not be the official '09 machinery, it's running a winter testing livery, and only Hulkenberg is available to chat about it. I wouldn't really call that a launch, but we'll take what we can get.
  • Renault are releasing their new car today, letting it loose on the tarmac at Portimao. They've also confirmed Grosjean as third driver, ousting di Grassi from the role. Boo.
  • I wonder whether we'll see any decent testing runs. Although the times are clearly meaningless at the moment, especially if you're trying to compare cars, it'll be good to see the new cars running in anger. Unfortunately, the weather looks set to ruin everything, with rain predicted for three of the four days. Oh well.

That's it for now. Please keep us up to date with any stories that crop up through the day, and we'll get searching the web for some pictures. I'll see you in the comments.

188 responses

  • Dank19/01/2009 at 09:21

    New Renault: http://i44.tinypic.com/35k0sn4.jpg

    New Williams (interim): http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos/2009/team-williams/diapo_110.jpg

  • Dank19/01/2009 at 09:22

    First comment and moderated! Woop!

  • Dank19/01/2009 at 09:27

    Romain Grosjean has become Renault's reserve driver.

    (which I see was already mentioned... doh!)

  • Lukeh19/01/2009 at 09:39

    Morning, I know we've already seen the few spy shots but I'm looking forward to the Creme Egg livery Renault getting unveiled today. :P

  • Lukeh19/01/2009 at 09:42

    Looking at the previous comments, seems I was right about the Renault, although more egg cracked over the body than a creme egg. A lot more orange and yellow than I was expecting... :|

  • Flibster19/01/2009 at 09:44

    Looks like a fat nose on the Williams

    However, on the low down front shots that are around, look at the windows in the garage door behind the car. ;)

  • Flibster19/01/2009 at 09:49

    3 largish FW31 images uploaded.

  • Flibster19/01/2009 at 09:56

    Good god... the Renault has a fat nose as well.

  • Dank19/01/2009 at 10:00

    Good god… the Renault has a fat nose as well.

    How the hell did that fail those safety tests recently?!!

  • Flibster19/01/2009 at 10:10

    How the hell did that fail those safety tests recently?!!

    Maybe part of the safety tests is a taste test?

    They took one look at it and threw up....

  • Craig19/01/2009 at 10:12

    They took one look at it and threw up….

    Which would explain the orange/yellow colourscheme...

  • Dank19/01/2009 at 10:13

    Looks like the new Renault colour scheme has been coined 'The McDonald's livery' :-D

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 10:42

    I wish Williams would race that dark blue livery. It would stand out from the crowd especially compared to the Renault. Good taste bad taste.

  • Craig19/01/2009 at 10:49

    I wish Williams would race that dark blue livery

    I thought the exact same thing!

  • Scott Woodwiss19/01/2009 at 10:57

    The BMW countdown continues...

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sFE86tcIkLQ

  • Dank19/01/2009 at 10:59

    The BMW countdown continues…

    'This video is private'

  • me19/01/2009 at 12:33

    honda news from the mole:

    "I am sure that Mercedes-Benz will want a multi-year deal and financial guarantees before agreeing to an engine deal. However, Honda could ask for the money invested in Brawn and Fry to be paid back over time, and they could even have an option to buy the F1 team back in, say, five years. That would be sensible. The car markets of the world should improve eventually and then Honda might want to get back to F1 again."

    more: http://www.grandprix.com/mole/mole21122.html

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 13:29

    One thing i meant to mention last night. Are Mercedes still trying to place Paul di Resta with FIF1? ART have announced their GP2 drivers so he is not going there. Haug was quoted in Autosport last week saying that he didn't know whether di Resta or Ralf would get the fourth new car in the DTM for 2009. If diResta was staying in the DTM he would be guaranteed a new car so there would not be a question. The only reason to be thinking of Ralf getting the new car is if di Resta is going elsewhere.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)19/01/2009 at 13:51

    One thing i meant to mention last night. Are Mercedes still trying to place Paul di Resta with FIF1? ART have announced their GP2 drivers so he is not going there. Haug was quoted in Autosport last week saying that he didn’t know whether di Resta or Ralf would get the fourth new car in the DTM for 2009. If diResta was staying in the DTM he would be guaranteed a new car so there would not be a question. The only reason to be thinking of Ralf getting the new car is if di Resta is going elsewhere.

    Wasn't Ralf guaranteed a 'new' DTM car this year as he had a 1-year old model in 2008?

  • Kathi19/01/2009 at 13:52

    didn't Ralf retire?

  • Kathi19/01/2009 at 14:07

    any news on Ferrari's exhausts?

    EDIT: there is: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090119145200.shtml

  • me19/01/2009 at 14:15

    any news on Ferrari’s exhausts?

    had no idea they were under scrutiny?

    can't believe they made a mistake, they helped write the regs.

    presumably they've got a reason for doing so, but i think the rain we saw in testing pics this morning is a good enough excuse to bail.

  • Journeyer19/01/2009 at 14:19

    The rain gave Ferrari a convenient excuse. If they weren't so lucky with Mother Nature, I wonder what excuse they would've used?

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 14:23

    can’t believe they made a mistake, they helped write the regs.

    Oh dear what a cock up.

    I am reminded of the Italian captain in Allo Allo. "What a mistake to make"

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 14:31

    I had a look at Alianora's Aleman team and it is full of German drivers so I guess that is why the name was chosen.

  • Lukeh19/01/2009 at 14:44

    Murray's autobiography arrived in the post today for £2.20, looking forward to that. Also have to read DC's, Eddie Jordan's autobiographys and a huge ayrton senna biography to read over the enxt few months...

    anyways... need to get on with these assignments I'm finding impossible to do.... :(

  • Rich19/01/2009 at 15:01

    The BMW countdown continues…

    I get

    This video has been removed by the user.

  • Journeyer19/01/2009 at 15:17

    I get

    This video has been removed by the user.

    Try this on for size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1s4zZUfn3M

  • RCC (aka Rocking Copse Corner)19/01/2009 at 15:30

    Any idea where the latest podcasts have gone? I do believ we're awaiting Episode 91? It's been a quiet week in the car this week :-(

  • me19/01/2009 at 15:33

    Any idea where the latest podcasts have gone? I do believ we’re awaiting Episode 91? It’s been a quiet week in the car this week

    recorded live last night rcc. you can watch again here:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/18/live-the-difficult-third-season/

    christine will probably edit this evening, but it was a feature length show, so no promises on that front.

  • Scott Woodwiss19/01/2009 at 15:52

    Attention! McLaren MP4-24 out on track!

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/121770

  • Christine19/01/2009 at 15:53

    Attention! McLaren MP4-24 out on track!

    The front looks a bit like the lego one I made.

  • Scott Woodwiss19/01/2009 at 16:02

    I really don't know why, but the more I look at that R29 at an angle, the more I don't seem to mind it that much.

  • RCC (aka Rocking Copse Corner)19/01/2009 at 16:11

    I really don’t know why, but the more I look at that R29 at an angle, the more I don’t seem to mind it that much.

    I knew someone would come round eventually!!

    It aint THAT bad, still looks better then the Fiat

  • RCC (aka Rocking Copse Corner)19/01/2009 at 16:15

    Any idea where the latest podcasts have gone? I do believ we’re awaiting Episode 91? It’s been a quiet week in the car this week

    recorded live last night rcc. you can watch again here:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/18/live-the-difficult-third-season/

    christine will probably edit this evening, but it was a feature length show, so no promises on that front.

    Cheers Mr C

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 16:35

    Alianora on pole in a FIF1???

    Unlucky Scott

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 16:36

    Thats what happens when you do your runs 15 minutes before the session and crash.

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 16:42

    Alianora on pole in a FIF1???

    I am so pleased Ron isn't around any more and I don't have to explain to him why I lost pole by 0.020s to a FIF1. I think either I will get fired or that nice Mr Whitmarsh will,

    Well done Alianora. Excellent lap indeed.

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 16:47

    I am so pleased Ron isn’t around any more and I don’t have to explain to him why I lost pole by 0.020s to a FIF1. I think either I will get fired or that nice Mr Whitmarsh will,

    Technically, there are about 21 other people who are quite embarrased as well.

    Well done Alianora still, perform like this in RLB and surely shes gonna be good.

  • Scott Woodwiss19/01/2009 at 16:50

    WTF is wrong with this goddamn McLaren! Twice i've had problems in qualifying! Absolute joke.

  • Dom19/01/2009 at 16:55

    Alianora on pole in a FIF1???

    Wow. Must be a race contender. :)

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 16:57

    WTF is wrong with this goddamn McLaren! Twice i’ve had problems in qualifying! Absolute joke.

    2 races ago I was last in it

  • Dom19/01/2009 at 16:58

    Yay! Just got a fastest lap in the first race of my public game! :)

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 17:01

    Oh, well done Alenyaa on winning his public race in France.

    Damn that collision, one more lap and I woulda been able to make an excuse to pit in for fuel as well.

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 17:29

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72863

    Lewis did know about Ron's plans. He just didn't know when the rest of us would be told.

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 17:30

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72869

    I need a Simpsons HA! HA! here. Ferrari's test at Mugello was rained on all day. Good plan going there then.

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 17:31

    Lewis did know about Ron’s plans. He just didn’t know when the rest of us would be told.

    I predicted this last night on the feedback/chat/call-in section I think in the first of my calls.

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 17:37

    I predicted this last night on the feedback/chat/call-in section I think in the first of my calls.

    I should stick to that rather than Batracing :(

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)19/01/2009 at 17:53

    I need a Simpsons HA! HA! here. Ferrari’s test at Mugello was rained on all day. Good plan going there then.

    Good job they tested there to fix the illegal exhaust covers and not for the weather then ;-)

  • me19/01/2009 at 17:54

    Good job they tested there to fix the illegal exhaust covers and not for the weather then

    :D

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 17:58

    Good job they tested there to fix the illegal exhaust covers and not for the weather then

    :)

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 17:58

    So Gavin have you switched to the realtime doohicky?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)19/01/2009 at 18:07

    So Gavin have you switched to the realtime doohicky?

    Yep. I'm converted. ;-)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)19/01/2009 at 18:16

    By the way, want to know what my "get well soon" present was?

    A giant Ferrari F1 calandar :-D

    (I did go back to work today and so far, all is well ;-) )

  • Rich19/01/2009 at 18:54

    Try this on for size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1s4zZUfn3M

    Thanks for the other link to part 2 of BMW Sauber launch

  • me19/01/2009 at 18:57

    gotta be worth embedding:

    we know it's white then.

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 18:58

    gotta be worth embedding:

    At least it is not as ugly as the Renault

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)19/01/2009 at 18:59

    gotta be worth embedding:

    Cue Super-annoying-flashy-video

    we know it’s white then.

    And seizure-inducing :-P

  • Christine19/01/2009 at 19:00

    gotta be worth embedding:

    How very creative all the teams have gotten.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)19/01/2009 at 19:04

    How very creative all the teams have gotten.

    Yes. Max must be thrilled at all the money they are saving ;-)

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 19:08

    At least it is not as ugly as the Renault

    Can anything be that bad?

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 19:14

    Times from the Algarve (lovely place)

    1) Buemi - Toro Rosso - 1:45.528 - 65 laps

    2) de la Rosa - McLaren - 1: 46.076 - 28 laps

    3) Hulkenberg - Williams - 1:46.335 - 28 laps

    4) Piquet - Renault - 1:48.907 - 33 laps

    5) Kobayashi - Toyota - 1:50.989 - 46 laps

  • me19/01/2009 at 19:15

    lauda says f1 drivers should double-stint and lewis should drive DTM too:

    "In these difficult times Mercedes could use Hamilton"

    has the man finally lost it?

    more here: http://www.focus.de/sport/formel1/formel-1-lauda-fordert-doppelstart-fuer-formel-1-piloten_aid_363103.html

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 19:20

    has the man finally lost it?

    I didn't know you spoke German.

    Translated version (mod queue may be intrested now)

    http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.focus.de/sport/formel1/formel-1-lauda-fordert-doppelstart-fuer-formel-1-piloten_aid_363103.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.focus.de/sport/formel1/formel-1-lauda-fordert-doppelstart-fuer-formel-1-piloten_aid_363103.html%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3DRDf

    On the original question, I'd see if a driver drove for F1 in the summer and another in the winter, but surely not two at the same time. Wouldn't that get chaotic? Too many different things happening, I'm sure if they want more glory, they'll keep Hamilton focused on the F1.

    For the answer, yes, yes he has

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 19:21

    I knew that would end in the Moderation Mayhem Queue

  • Scott Woodwiss19/01/2009 at 19:24

    1) Buemi - Toro Rosso - 1:45.528 - 65 laps 2) de la Rosa - McLaren - 1: 46.076 - 28 laps 3) Hulkenberg - Williams - 1:46.335 - 28 laps 4) Piquet - Renault - 1:48.907 - 33 laps 5) Kobayashi - Toyota - 1:50.989 - 46 laps

    LOL! Buemi owned all the 2009 cars! :D

  • me19/01/2009 at 19:24

    I didn’t know you spoke German.

    sorry, should've linked to the translation. you might have more luck with the mod queue if you throw extra long url's into:

    http://tinyurl.com/

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 19:25

    sorry, should’ve linked to the translation. you might have more luck with the mod queue if you throw extra long url’s into:

    Reet, cheers for the tip

  • me19/01/2009 at 19:25

    For the answer, yes, yes he has

    it seems drives are hard enough to come by as it is, without having the overpaid drivers nick the cheap seats too.

  • me19/01/2009 at 19:30

    just for kicks:

    http://craziestgadgets.com/2009/01/19/f1-grands-prix-limousine/

  • Jon Waldock19/01/2009 at 19:32

    It seats 6 plus a driver and can reach speeds of nearly 300 mph which is actually faster than the typical Formula One car goes.

    UTTER TOSH!!!

    I think its a typo lol

  • me19/01/2009 at 19:34

    I think its a typo lol

    i didn't even read it, just liked the piccy. here's a better link:

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/f1-grand-prix-limo-jpg

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 19:36

    i didn’t even read it, just liked the piccy. here’s a better link:

    And we thought the Renault wings were bad.

  • Flibster19/01/2009 at 19:45

    LOL! Buemi owned all the 2009 cars!

    Not surprised. Full aero package and more power....

  • Rich19/01/2009 at 19:47

    At least it is not as ugly as the Renault

    Can anything be that bad?

    Have a look at this video there are some shockers competing for honours and most are right off the factory production line!

  • lou19/01/2009 at 19:50

    gotta be worth embedding:

    the bit they reveal of the front wing... looks like a lego brick :|

  • Rich19/01/2009 at 19:52

    just for kicks:

    http://craziestgadgets.com/2009/01/19/f1-grands-prix-limousine/

    Still not as ugly as the 2009 Renault F1

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 20:24

    http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=44964

    First test times

  • LadySnowcat19/01/2009 at 20:25

    Re Lewis driving in DTM....

    Just how embarrassing would that be for say... Vodaphone... if Lewis were beaten by say ...Gary Paffett...

    Actually that would be more embarrassing for Ron....

    And if not by Gary Paffett... Lewis could be beaten by.....

    Aghhhhh..... Ralf....

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 20:29

    Aghhhhh….. Ralf….

    Now that would be a picture to laugh on.

    Obviously not for Hamilton, but I might take a mental thought about that.

  • Andy Taylor19/01/2009 at 20:33

    The front looks a bit like the lego one I made.

    Not lego, Megablocks

  • lou19/01/2009 at 20:35

    Alonso determined to win 2009 title - i like the sound of that :)

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 20:37

    Alonso determined to win 2009 title - i like the sound of that

    If that Renault is as good as it was at the end of last season, Alonso will walk it this year.

  • Lukeh19/01/2009 at 20:41

    Alonso determined to win 2009 title - i like the sound of that

    thats cheered me up

  • me19/01/2009 at 20:41

    If that Renault is as good as it was at the end of last season, Alonso will walk it this year.

    with THAT nose?

  • LadySnowcat19/01/2009 at 20:42

    If that Renault is as good as it was at the end of last season, Alonso will walk it this year.

    Oh no he won't....

    He has needed to be strong at the beginning of the season to be in with a chance...

    That's how he and Renault did it in 2005 and 2006 I recall...

    We all know that although the Renault did improve last season (although it was so awful at the start it could hardly fail to improve) the wins were more down to the big guys dropping the ball or serious luck....

    Despite Alfonso's words the new car looks odd due to some hasty stuff on the front wing...

    Failing the crash test perchance...

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 20:43

    with THAT nose?

    As somone ironically posted on another site on a different matter

    "I'd rather have a fast ugly car than a nice-looking slow one"

  • LadySnowcat19/01/2009 at 20:45

    As somone ironically posted on another site on a different matter

    “I’d rather have a fast ugly car than a nice-looking slow one”

    More a case of I'd rather have a car that doesn't do a...."Red Bull"... and disintegrate...

  • me19/01/2009 at 20:50

    Failing the crash test perchance…

    nah. they can run a car at a private test that's already failed an fia test can't they?

    that nose is deliberate, even if it's only to tie the competition up in knots. they may not race it, but they could easily make the same nose out of stronger and thicker material if needs be.

    it's ugly, but intentional.

  • Andy Taylor19/01/2009 at 20:50

    “I’d rather have a fast ugly car than a nice-looking slow one”

    Looks like a fish, moves like a fish, steers like a cow...

  • LadySnowcat19/01/2009 at 20:52

    nah. they can run a car at a private test that’s already failed an fia test can’t they?

    that nose is deliberate, even if it’s only to tie the competition up in knots. they may not race it, but they could easily make the same nose out of stronger and thicker material if needs be.

    it’s ugly, but intentional.

    That's the point....

    The pretty one FAILED the test...

    So they've had to make do and mend and start with this one....

    Not deliberate.... but sort of close....

    The word is ever so slightly..... desperate...

  • me19/01/2009 at 20:56

    The pretty one FAILED the test…

    so what though?

    they didn't just cook up that shaped nose in the time since the failure did they? why, when they could have just made the failure stronger. thrown more composite material at it.

    The word is ever so slightly….. desperate…

    nope, i think you're wrong. remember pat was one of the 'three' who cooked all of this nonsense up. he and paddy and the other guy, know all there is to know. now they have to out-fox each other.

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 20:56

    On the original question, I’d see if a driver drove for F1 in the summer and another in the winter, but surely not two at the same time. Wouldn’t that get chaotic? Too many different things happening, I’m sure if they want more glory, they’ll keep Hamilton focused on the F1.

    That is what the drivers used to do. Some would race in 5 or 6 different championships in a season. Not necessarily doing every race in every series but racing pretty much every weekend of the year. That is what gave Jackie Stewart a duodenal ulcer. Racing F1 and Can-Am on alternate weekends and flying the Atlantic twice a week.

  • Steven Roy19/01/2009 at 21:02

    nah. they can run a car at a private test that’s already failed an fia test can’t they?

    Insanely enough that is the case. They can even run a var that has failed a crash test at an official FIA test day. It's all part of Max's safety drive.

    Unfrtunately the nose was intended to be that ugly. They couldn't have turned round a new nose design in the time availabel.

  • me19/01/2009 at 21:05

    Insanely enough that is the case. They can even run a var that has failed a crash test at an official FIA test day. It’s all part of Max’s safety drive.

    that's what i figured. the gpda has no teeth, else they would've sorted that years ago.

    Unfrtunately the nose was intended to be that ugly. They couldn’t have turned round a new nose design in the time availabel.

    i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't fail that test on purpose too.

    nothing says "we're really trying", than a car that falls to pieces the moment you look at it.

    anyone who's already passed the required tests, are probably wondering if they've gone too safe now. maybe there's a queue for re-tests at the fia?

  • LadySnowcat19/01/2009 at 21:36

    As to Renault...

    And the nose....

    You may want a look at Keith's f1fanatic site....

  • LadySnowcat19/01/2009 at 21:39

    i wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t fail that test on purpose too.

    nothing says “we’re really trying”, than a car that falls to pieces the moment you look at it.

    anyone who’s already passed the required tests, are probably wondering if they’ve gone too safe now. maybe there’s a queue for re-tests at the fia?

    Oh sure guys...

    Like they did after Red Bull failed last year...

    Now how strong was that car?...

  • R.G (One of them was facebooked on youtube)19/01/2009 at 21:39

    You may want a look at Keith’s f1fanatic site….

    Okay, who said BMW's looked like a megablock piece?

    And the Williams, looks the best out of the lot.

  • me19/01/2009 at 21:41

    And the Williams, looks the best out of the lot.

    i just read that comment as:

    "Andy Williams, looks the best out of the lot."

    ;)

  • me19/01/2009 at 21:42

    Now how strong was that car?…

    faster than the renault if i recall? in the right hands (vettel) it won a race too.

  • Dom19/01/2009 at 21:45

    “Andy Williams, looks the best out of the lot.”

    Theo Ferrari doesn't come close!

  • Lukeh19/01/2009 at 21:49

    I'm still laughing at that Hamilton article. I mean... I know The Sun are awful... but wow.

  • LadySnowcat19/01/2009 at 21:55

    faster than the renault if i recall? in the right hands (vettel) it won a race too.

    Wrong car I am afraid...

    The TR never quite disintegrated and didn't fail a test either....

    And the win for TR and better results for RB came very very much later in the season.... after they got over the fragility issues...

    Surely you aren't wishing that on Renault....

  • me19/01/2009 at 21:57

    Surely you aren’t wishing that on Renault….

    i'm not the one wishing anything on renault here :)

  • LadySnowcat19/01/2009 at 22:01

    There will, of course, be much debate at least until 29 March....

  • jolly19/01/2009 at 22:24

    The b*st*rds have revealed his identity together with photo

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article5548705.ece

    Bang out of order ;-)

  • me19/01/2009 at 22:25

    Bang out of order

    who'd do a thing like that eh?

  • me19/01/2009 at 22:27

    The b*st*rds have revealed his identity together with photo

    does that mean it was the stig who did this:

    http://www.chattershmatter.com/2008/04/21/james-bond-movie-car-crashes-into-italian-river/

  • Andy Taylor19/01/2009 at 22:29

    Bang out of order

    It was fairly well known anyway, plus I have heard that there are multiple Stigs.

  • lou19/01/2009 at 22:30

    The b*st*rds have revealed his identity together with photo

    just remember there are actually a few stigs, one main one, and a few other drivers... and i know that is definitely true. but shhh you didn't hear that from me. ;)

  • me19/01/2009 at 22:32

    just remember there are actually a few stigs, one main one, and a few other drivers… and i know that is definitely true. but shhh you didn’t hear that from me.

    i know nothing.

  • Christine19/01/2009 at 22:32

    The b*st*rds have revealed his identity together with photo

    I don't understand it at all. The Stig isn't a person.

  • Andy Taylor19/01/2009 at 22:36

    I don’t understand it at all. The Stig isn’t a person.

    Some say....

    It seems that the Telegraph ran the original story at the weekend, the Times is merely picking up on it.

  • Flibster19/01/2009 at 22:37

    It must be a slow news day then... That was reasonably common knowledge.

    i know nothing.

    *covers mouth to avoid obvious joke.....*

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 22:57

    Please take this as a constructive comment rather than just a 'doohickey whinge'

    Is it possible to have some form of sign at the top of the page indicating that the doohickey has stopped updating. Yes I know there's refresh (which loses loads of text below) or scrolling to the bottom to see the refresh time.

    Maybe the refresh time could be at the top?

    As ever, I know it's pretty low on the list but just putting it out there

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 22:57

    My favourite some say is...

    "some say he introduced the Queen to a racist greek"

    I haven't clicked on the link. Just like I didn't click on the "photo of me" some people were touting around the internets. People who suggest these people are real and exist out in the real world are the deluded ones if you ask me!

  • Christine19/01/2009 at 22:58

    People who suggest these people are real and exist out in the real world are the deluded ones if you ask me!

    Absolutely!!

  • me19/01/2009 at 22:59

    As ever, I know it’s pretty low on the list but just putting it out there

    understood. it would be better if i just fixed the damn thing though :)

    it's actually quite high up me list, just one more launch to get out of the way tomorrow and we'll see where we're at.

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 23:00

    Absolutely!!

    Just don't ask "Me". He of course thinks he's real ;)

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 23:04

    understood. it would be better if i just fixed the damn thing though

    it’s actually quite high up me list, just one more launch to get out of the way tomorrow and we’ll see where we’re at.

    I actually had a problem with the LCLT yesterday right at the end. It stopped allowing me to add new comments. Buuuut... It was really updating because when I added other updates in a new tab it worked and updated back in the old tab. This was in Firefox 3 on Vista.

  • Christine19/01/2009 at 23:04

    Just don’t ask “Me”. He of course thinks he’s real

    I suppose actually, this conversation doesn't reflect well on me... because if he's not real, I'm the weirdo who married him!

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 23:07

    I suppose actually, this conversation doesn’t reflect well on me… because if he’s not real, I’m the weirdo who married him!

    :) :) :)

    Well I wouldn't like to say ;)

    But yes, everyone here wants to believe in Father Panda Christmas Mr Christine (or whatever his name is). They just need a little shove :)

  • Alianora La Canta19/01/2009 at 23:07

    I had a look at Alianora’s Aleman team and it is full of German drivers so I guess that is why the name was chosen. {Steven Roy - 96 comments ago}

    That is precisely correct. The team will have as many German drivers as I can shoehorn into there, and no other nationality, for the whole season. Unless they all get sacked, then I'll need a plan B.

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 23:08

    I got moderated and there was no link or bad language. Weird.

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 23:09

    I got moderated and there was no link or bad language. Weird.

    I did talk about Me's secret identity though ;)

  • me19/01/2009 at 23:09

    the flav, he say kers... it's all nonsense:

    "First of all we don’t know how much it will cost to develop. We don’t know if it’s dangerous or not; it looks like it’s not 100% under control, anyway. And it’s something which doesn’t bring any good to us – it brings only costs. This is sure."

    sounds like he's a fan!

    more: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=44967

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:10

    I got moderated and there was no link or bad language. Weird.

    I said some that rhymes with Keen Wolf

  • Alianora La Canta19/01/2009 at 23:10

    Alianora on pole in a FIF1??? {Steven Roy - 86 comments ago}

    What?!? This I have to see - I've not been on BATRacer yet today and the idea of me being on pole in anything is already fairly implausible...

  • me19/01/2009 at 23:10

    I did talk about Me’s secret identity though

    i unmoderated you all :)

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:10

    I said some that rhymes with Keen Wolf

    *something

    Though I have an idea what the offending word was. Or Wordpress doesn't like M.J. Fox 80's movies

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 23:11

    *something

    Though I have an idea what the offending word was. Or Wordpress doesn’t like M.J. Fox 80’s movies

    I'm really not sure what mine was. Perhaps it was the 4 smilies?

  • Alex Andronov19/01/2009 at 23:12

    i unmoderated you all

    Thank you Me :)

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:12

    i unmoderated you all

    Doohickey feedback pt 2

    Could unmoderated comments go in as new entries (i.e. at the top) on doohickey or does that become too complicated?

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:14

    I said something that rhymes with Keen Wolf

    In relation to this http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/ferroyle-jpg

  • Jon Waldock19/01/2009 at 23:14

    In relation to this http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/ferroyle-jpg

    you should be given an OBE or an MBE or something for that, thats genius!!

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:16

    you should be given an OBE or an MBE or something for that, thats genius!!

    It's Lukeh's work, he's been doing a few. Check out Dr Bernie and the real Trulli Train on Frop.io

    He's quite good with PS

  • me19/01/2009 at 23:18

    Doohickey feedback pt 2

    Could unmoderated comments go in as new entries (i.e. at the top) on doohickey or does that become too complicated?

    at present, yes. it's a wordpress problem actually.

    have plans to move away from WP though, because it's too slow and doesn't scale. not sure when yet mind you.

  • Lukeh19/01/2009 at 23:18

    I've got to do something to keep me (mildly) sane with spc alongside awful assignment work I suppose ;)

  • me19/01/2009 at 23:19

    He’s quite good with PS

    in the same way that seb loeb is "quite good" on four wheels!

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:19

    If any has any interesting Miro feeds can they post the links on Frop.io or something. We need a folder that doesn't move with the calendar, like a useful (non-F1) links

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:20

    I’ve got to do something to keep me (mildly) sane with spc alongside awful assignment work I suppose

    I don't understand the "keep me sane part" :D

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:21

    in the same way that seb loeb is “quite good” on four wheels!

    Lewis Hamilton is quite good with pizza :D

  • me19/01/2009 at 23:21

    We need a folder that doesn’t move with the calendar, like a useful (non-F1) links

    not sure what you mean by that?

  • Lukeh19/01/2009 at 23:21

    I don’t understand the “keep me sane part”

    touche good sir, touche :)

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:22

    not sure what you mean by that?

    Was a bit confusing wasn't it

    Too complicated, never mind! :D

  • Christine19/01/2009 at 23:24

    Was a bit confusing wasn’t it

    Too complicated, never mind!

    Feel free to use the Wiki for anything like that.

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:24

    not sure what you mean by that?

    Not like how drop.io posts move as they are collated by the day they are posted on.

    [Eureka!] I guess a Miro thread on the wiki would do it

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:25

    Feel free to use the Wiki for anything like that.

    And then I looked up from the keyboard to see Christine's post :D

  • Ollie19/01/2009 at 23:25

    have plans to move away from WP though, because it’s too slow and doesn’t scale. not sure when yet mind you.

    Oooh, what you been coding!?

    WP doesn't scale well, I agree - it has been hopelessly slow since I first launched 'The White Blog' way back when. But it does have a decent community behind which will, eventually, listen. If you shout loud enough and are successful enough to encourage the development and promotion of it. :D

  • Andy Taylor19/01/2009 at 23:27

    I suppose actually, this conversation doesn’t reflect well on me… because if he’s not real, I’m the weirdo who married him!

    But you didn't marry "Me", you married ******* *********.

    :)

    (Please note that the number of stars does not accurately reflect the number of letters in Me's real name, just in case you were wondering).

  • Ollie19/01/2009 at 23:27

    WP doesn’t scale well, I agree - it has been hopelessly slow since I first launched ‘The White Blog’ way back when.

    And to clarify that - WP's slowness wasn't my fault (it's just inherent in any of my web projects :lol: ). Just that TWB was my first intro to WP and I noticed it's issues back then, circa 2005, I think.

  • me19/01/2009 at 23:28

    But it does have a decent community behind which will, eventually, listen. If you shout loud enough and are successful enough to encourage the development and promotion of it.

    it's the spaghetti code that's the problem.

    it's old, requires too many resources and is built to appeal to too many people. we have simple requirements, and it's just overkill on so many levels.

    needs to be thinner, lighter and optimised to handle live commenting.

  • Bassano Clapper19/01/2009 at 23:30

    Feel free to use the Wiki for anything like that.

    Page started under "Other projects" twisty

  • Ollie19/01/2009 at 23:32

    it’s old, requires too many resources and is built to appeal to too many people. we have simple requirements, and it’s just overkill on so many levels.

    I completely agree. But it is open-source, which makes it good as a base to hack it to your needs. Until the following week when you need to upgrade and re-code your hacks! lol.

  • me19/01/2009 at 23:35

    I completely agree. But it is open-source, which makes it good as a base to hack it to your needs. Until the following week when you need to upgrade and re-code your hacks! lol.

    it's a great starting point no question. we've probably outgrown it now though. i can't see it being completed removed before this time next year, but we'll rely on it less and less and get faster as a result (in theory anyhow).

  • Alianora La Canta19/01/2009 at 23:48

    I am so pleased Ron isn’t around any more and I don’t have to explain to him why I lost pole by 0.020s to a FIF1. I think either I will get fired or that nice Mr Whitmarsh will {Steven Roy - 85 comments ago}

    Try the Hamilton technique of calming down such a dispute*. That should help ;)

    * - Lewis got stuck behind a FIF1 for nine laps at a high-overtaking circuit, but he got away with it because he earned a rather nice souvenir, also known as the World Driver's Championship trophy.

  • Alianora La Canta19/01/2009 at 23:51

    Technically, there are about 21 other people who are quite embarrased as well. {R.G. - 85 comments ago}

    Admittedly, the Super Aguris have a good excuse (their car is the slowest on the grid)...

  • Alianora La Canta20/01/2009 at 00:01

    perform like this in RLB and surely shes gonna be good. {R.G. - 86 comments ago}

    Thank you for the vote of confidence, R.G. :) I am hopeful of a Formula Trinity seat for next season.

  • Alianora La Canta20/01/2009 at 00:09

    Wow. Must be a race contender. {Dom - 85 comments ago}

    We'll see. Hopefully I won't fade in the race like I did before.

  • Alianora La Canta20/01/2009 at 00:10

    Yay! Just got a fastest lap in the first race of my public game! {Dom - 84 comments ago}

    That's great - keep up the good work :)

  • Alianora La Canta20/01/2009 at 00:11

    I need a Simpsons HA! HA! here. Ferrari’s test at Mugello was rained on all day. Good plan going there then. {Steven Roy - 81 comments ago}

    You can run from the weather, but you can't hide!

  • Journeyer20/01/2009 at 00:19

    I need a Simpsons HA! HA! here. Ferrari’s test at Mugello was rained on all day. Good plan going there then. {Steven Roy - 81 comments ago}

    You can run from the weather, but you can’t hide!

    Ah yes, good ol' Nelson Muntz. :D

    But hey, at least they saved on transport costs. If it was raining in both Mugello and Algarve, might as well have your test in Mugello anyway.

  • Bassano Clapper20/01/2009 at 00:21

    If it was raining in both Mugello and Algarve, might as well have your test in Mugello anyway.

    Especially if you might need your big hacksaws to fix your exhausts :D

  • Dom20/01/2009 at 01:21

    Flavio's out to confuse us!

  • me20/01/2009 at 01:23

    Flavio’s out to confuse us!

    what?

    "Flavio Briatore has dismissed suggestions that he will leave Formula One within the next two seasons."

    is that because ron's decided to leave now?

  • Dom20/01/2009 at 01:29

    is that because ron’s decided to leave now?

    You'd think he'd want to get out of there as soon as possible, with the car looking the way it does. ;)

  • Dom20/01/2009 at 01:34

    Just noticed a headline on the ITV site:

    "Alonso wants to silence Ferrari talk"

    Then, mysteriously just afterwards:

    "Briatore denies planning to quit"

  • me20/01/2009 at 01:36

    Just noticed a headline on the ITV site:

    “Alonso wants to silence Ferrari talk”

    Then, mysteriously just afterwards:

    “Briatore denies planning to quit”

    oh, you are soo drawing conclusions there. i cannot believe you just made that leap of faith.

    that renault must be fast!

  • Aitch20/01/2009 at 01:36

    We were talking about F1 personalities in tv or movies and if the cars can be classified as personalities here's how I would cast The Good, The Bad and the Ugly. The Good goes to Williams (in the words of Murray Walker 'Absolutely Incredible') The Bad goes to Toyota and the Ugly has to go to Renault. This list may change depending on what the other teams do especially BMW.

  • Dom20/01/2009 at 01:42

    oh, you are soo drawing conclusions there. i cannot believe you just made that leap of faith.

    I didn't say nuffink! ;)

  • Alianora La Canta20/01/2009 at 01:46

    Flavio’s out to confuse us! {Dom - 7 comments ago}

    Something he usually manages to do without even trying...

  • Aitch20/01/2009 at 01:48

    I must apologize for my remarks about the Ferrari, it's not that bad of a looking car other than that rear wing but everybody has that rear wing so I apologize for being to harsh. Renault has the ugliest car I've seen since the Pontiac Aztek. With my luck that last comment will come back to bite me in the ass.

  • me20/01/2009 at 01:50

    Renault has the ugliest car I’ve seen since the Pontiac Aztek. With my luck that last comment will come back to bite me in the ass.

    hehe! we'll dig it out in december :D

  • Lukeh20/01/2009 at 01:50

    Right I think it's time I finally headed off to bed, I've spent the last 12 hours on 1 assignment (and still not done!)so I need to give my frazzled brain a rest...

    night everyone :)

  • me20/01/2009 at 01:51

    night everyone

    night luke.

  • Alianora La Canta20/01/2009 at 01:52

    I'm off to bed too. Thankfully I've finished playing spot-the-difference with Parisian paperwork and can give myself something different to do.

    Pity it involves pricing up backup hard drives...

  • me20/01/2009 at 01:53

    Pity it involves pricing up backup hard drives…

    drobo!

    that was easy.

  • me20/01/2009 at 01:53

    night btw alia :)

  • me20/01/2009 at 02:11

    a classic from bernie today, on the subject of fota wanting a greater revenue share:

    "We don’t need to pay more. We’ve got to give them less. They could ask for more money but they won’t get it."

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/69fd82f4-e65b-11dd-8e4f-0000779fd2ac.html

  • me20/01/2009 at 02:17

    rent-a-quote goes one better in this article:

    "It’s bad for me to say this, but the only team we would really say we would miss is Ferrari. I wouldn’t want to lose McLaren for sure. I wouldn’t want to lose Williams, but the strength of the Ferrari brand, in particular, is central to the health of F1."

    at least he's honest i guess.

    more: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/996114fc-e665-11dd-8e4f-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

  • Scott Woodwiss20/01/2009 at 03:02

    Going onto drop.io now is a video which I made as a kind of mock up season tralier for RLB Season 9 Formula 1, but I never put it up because of the way the screen went all funny. I've never found out why that was :(

    Anyway, if you can make the clips out, hope you enjoy it. Kind of showcases my editing abilities. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/01/2009 at 07:11

    Wow, you were all burning the midnight oil I see ;-)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/01/2009 at 07:42

    New U2 song "Get on Your Boots" preview online: http://goyb.u2.com/

    The link automatically plays the song...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)20/01/2009 at 08:43

    BMW.Sauber.F1.09 launch

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72888

  • me20/01/2009 at 10:05

    New U2 song “Get on Your Boots” preview online:

    oh dear.

  • Scott Woodwiss20/01/2009 at 10:22

    I'm having problems uploading my video. It says it's complete but it still says uploading. Any ideas why?

  • me20/01/2009 at 11:25

    I’m having problems uploading my video. It says it’s complete but it still says uploading. Any ideas why?

    i see it :)

  • Scott Woodwiss20/01/2009 at 11:57

    i see it

    Yup, used the HTML loader instead. :)

    Let me know what you think in today's daily thread :)