We all stayed up late last night recording the fourth edition of Sidepodpanel. We managed to welcome in the new day and say Happy Birthday to Scott as the clock struck midnight. However, it's now Monday, and things are kicking off in the F1 world once again.
Things up for discussion today:
- Canada is officially off the calendar. The Montreal mayor says they tried everything but Bernie's demands are unreasonable.
- Testing in Barcelona gets underway today, keep your eyes on the news for any info and/or pictures. We'd especially like updates in drop.io if you find anything.
- Brundle confirms BBC role in 2009
In non-F1 news:
- The space shuttle is... still going.
- The possibility of a live Sidepodpanel at Autosport.
- Was Genesis better before or after Peter Gabriel?
The lists will expand throughout the day, so don't feel constrained by what I have mentioned here. Feel free to discuss anything that's on your mind, and we'll catch up with you in the comments.
175 million for a 5 year contract does seem absolutly bonkers. I can not see 150 000 people spending the amount of money need for the government to get it money back in the form of sales taxes and want not.
And there is so little overhead for this Grand Prix compared to others that you would think that Canada would be the last GP not to turn a profit.
Makes you wonder. Give Bernie 35 million and you can have a race anywhere you want. Then you can have a race to completely empty grandstands because no one in your contry can afford the ticket prices.
France, Canada, and China's on the ropes, who is next?
well said.
britain, belgium, germany, australia, malaysia
Now, if I can only say that in Chinese for added irony....
Barca testing - I am very excited with the prospect of seeing the way teams have tackled the new regs.
Toyota's Pascal Vasselon response to a formula1.com question:
I agree that the new cars will look 'cleaner', but I don't think we are ever going to see gorgeous racecars like the Lotus 49 again. Then again, we are never going to be going that slow again, either. I wonder how history will remember these new cars?
Perhaps someone would give their thoughts on how history will remember the grooved tyres/mad flickups era racecars.
I'm a bit late on this one, but hey, it'll be the first one in this thread:
Happy Birthday, Scott!
Now, on to business:
Some deserve to be on this list more than others. In particular, France, China, and Malaysia have had poor ticket sales.
But on the other hand, why aren't other not-so-worthy nations on this list? Keep Britain, Belgium, Germany, and Australia. Drop Bahrain (since we'll get Abu Dhabi anyway; at least that looks better), Barcelona (yes, Valencia's horrid, but at least there's some scenery, not to mention it's not a test track), and most of all, that old school version of a horrible track that is Hungary.
The definition of a gorgeous racecar is always relative, Dave. I think you'd have the same definition with Clive of F1Insight of a beautiful racecar. Other fans like the 1980s McLarens. Even other fans (like me) love the Williams and Benetton designs of the early 1990s, as well as the F2002.
It all depends on one's perspective. I'm sure others love the more recent 2006-2008 cars, and others still will praise the cars based on the new rules coming out in the next years to come.
OK, sorry I haven't been on here in a while but has anybody seem this?
http://facelesspeople.com/
It's not what you may think it is just by looking at the url, it's the new Lotus car, it looks a lot like a baby Ferrari, just a lot cuter.
Lotus have been running an odd ad campaign for this car over the last couple of weeks, or at least that's that I've heard, not seem much of it myself though.
First off, that looks fantastic. It is probably a tenth of the price of a Ferrari.
That ad campiagn, why be cute. Just show he car, give it to the Top Gear guys to gush over, and let it sell itself.
first testing pics courtesy of gpupdate.net.
look at that rear wing:
look at that front wing:
i don't care what anyone says, that's the stupidest looking f1 car i've ever seen.
it would be more stupid if it was badged as a Honda :) aaah sorry. just couldn't resist. late night for everyone huh?
not sure if you guys saw this a week or two back, but the italian police have a new car to chase down speeding motorists (or try to follow Olivier Panis if he's in the country). the car is a Lamborhini Gallardo and I wouldn't mind getting pulled over by this just so I could check it out.
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/27/lambocop-stalks-italian-speeders/
I do see the odd supercar here, but not many. a nice Ferrari this morning but I didn't recognise the model. or have a camera :(
What is that on the front?!?! How big did they want the nose. Looking at that, it's worse than Williams' walrus nose. I prefer the slim nose.
It looks. Wrong. Like somebody put the wrong parts in an Airfix kit.
i feel the need to whip out the radio controlled handset to help park it.
pretty big.
live(ish) updates from the test:
http://tinyurl.com/f1testingbarcelona
Yeah, yeah, pure monstrosity - that BMW.
Guys, practical question: good places for blogging, can you help me out? I got sick of myspace and facebook, any suggestions where I could start a cool blog for my wombat? I know you're all cutting edge and cutting Bono, so I need your advice, please?
bmw testing kers:
and a formula bmw chassis?:
you know from that angle on that last pic, it doesn't look too bad! It's just when you see it from the front...*shudders*
christine uses wordpress.com, but it's limited in terms of cool features:
http://iheartfranck.com/
it's free and anonymous though.
OK, thanks, I'll check it out.
can't wait to take 1st look at other monsters. F1 grid circa 2009 will be known as "the sea of monsters", Renault may as well adopt "yellow submarine" name for their yet-to-be-seen 2009 creation.
Some more images are starting to appear at http://www.sutton-images.com/
My comment sank, never mind, I know it's dangerous to post links, just wanted to point out that sutton images website has more pics / angles to offer.
Exactly my thoughts! It looks like one of those junior single-seaters, except that they have an airbox and has enough voltage to get you electrocuted. Those wings look... rather brutal.
But then again, that's how things tend to end up in the 1st year of new rules. Expect the aero profile to get more refined and defined as we go along and see the aero folks push those rules to the limit all over again.
I see the BMW pit-crew have got their marigolds on today!
not as bad as I thought it would be, but the rear wings will need some time to get used too :-)
I think that what we see here is far from what BMW will actually run next year. This may be some rough version good enough for them collect data. But no team will be showing their cards now, in November, in the first winter test ...
the credit suisse part of the front wing seems to be the movable one
see that electric shock warning :-) ? shocking :-) that is the new one on F1 car
circuit website
http://www.circuitcat.com/ingles/index.asp
links for the two web cams in the top right corner. you cannot see a lot, but you might spot the odd car cruising around. the weather looks nice.
BMW 2009 test car - hideous! But thats kind of what I expected from the 09 rules.
Genesis? Better with Peter Gabriel *but Peter rocks on his own too*
Plans revealed for new Donington GP in 2010:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/11/16/f1-cars-will-hit-298kph-in-craner-curves-at-the-new-donington-park-in-2010/
I'm sad to see the circuit altered, but I will reserve a Tilke-Groan because it was necessary and they haven't altered the best parts of the circuit...
The Evora.
Somewhere in drop.io is a few pictures I took at the Lotus 60th birthday party at Hethal. Includes more than a couple of the Evora.
Plus, I got to have a sit in it after most people had gone... It's a true 4 seater. I fit in the back of it! I'm not exactly a narrow person either.
As I'm not allowed an Elise or Exige by the other half - I've stuck my deposit down on one of these.
FYI Christine and me, my last comment with a link to a story about the plans for Donington is in the moderation queue because it contained a link to a story about the plans for the Donington GP 2010...
Found it. :)
Errrrrrrrrgh!!!
Thats vile, i'm willing to bet that there will be an increased amount of pitstop - car vs mechanic accidents!!
Oh and anyone noticed the gaffa tape holding the wing together
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/photolarge.php?photoID=115671&catID=3662
Cheers :-)
Agree 100%! Absolutely hideous (and nothing like the mockups we have been seeing over the last few weeks!)
Keep in mind however that we are seeing 2009 aero regs on the 2008 cars. Therefore I hope that when we see the 'proper' 2009 cars, they will look a little nicer and have better proportions (but somehow, I doubt it).
Bernie and Max are ordering their Teflon Tuxedoes as we speak...
Actually, the 2009 F1 cars remind me of these:
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Armaroli%20WorldCup
Hideously ugly! You know, these new F1 cars are very dangerous because they are so ugly that every time one overtakes another, they will see it, get startled and distracted by the ugliness of it and crash!
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/120010
That view I can live with....
But this:
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/120013
Argh! My eyes! They burn!
Even the Rear Wing Endplates are horrible. Did Tony Purnell just get lazy and ask his four year old son to design the new regs?
Hello everyone!
I was looking at the BMW pictures and somehow I think 2009 will be a year to forget, maybe a repeat of 2005.
As for Canada, it's so sad to see it go. Me and some friends are planning a GP trip for 2009 and since we live in the Dominican Republic, the obvious choice was to go to Montreal. Brazil is not an option, don't really like the country; so the other 2 options are Great Britain or Germany seeing as France dropped out of the calendar.
Why are McLaren wasting time putting Gary Paffett in the car? They are surely not going to foist him on to FIF1.
What about Australia, seeing as you plan to travel so far anyway?
Looks like the tape is holding a camera or sensor in place lookign at the end of the front wing or front tyre.
Possibly a heat sensor to monitor tyre temperatures?
maybe brundle's twisted ron's arm?
maybe it's a threat to fif1 - do as we say or this man is coming your way.
That would be a lot more money :D. A flight for that date, if bought today, would be little over 4K, and that's the flight alone, you'd have to add car rental, hotel, race tickets and general expenses. I don't think a one week trip to a race is worth all that money.
I looked around and the Germany of Britain trip would be little under 3K for a full 2 weeks. Not to me mention the fact that the travel time is a lot less, for those 2 places we'd get conecting flights in Madrid. Well, I also forgot to add Barcelona, but we haven't really looked into that one.
cheers sir.
honda are going down the same route as bmw:
http://67.15.62.73/previews/deh0817no96.jpg
On a side note, Christine and 'me', where do you get all of those music clips from?
I'm not talking about the songs you play during the parade lap or anything like that, I'm really referring to stuff like the intro clips to the podcasts and stuff...
All over the place, but mostly from Apple loops. If there's a particular one you're curious about, we can be more specific.
Well the main one used at the start of Sidepodcast episodes and the one at the start of Sidepodpanel.
Do you guys make your own soundbites too (For example, the intro's to each section in Sidepodcast)?
attention ME - were you interested with the live timing script stuff I was talking about in another post over the weekend? (you can say no, I'm just seeking "closure")
offtopic - check out the space station and space shuttle broadcast if you're interested.
I think I may have started something with the sidepodpace coverage.
To get the best from this on the right of the screen is a tab marked other viewing options. If you pick Windows Media (best for full screen) you can get a better large format video
Final testing times for today
1. Sato (Toro Rosso)-1:20.763 Sato (Toro Rosso) -1:20.763 2. Buemi (Toro Rosso)- 1:21.071 Buemi (Toro Rosso) - 1:21.071 3. Wurz (Honda)-1:21.198 Wurz (Honda) -1:21.198 4. De la Rosa (McLaren)-1:21.417 De la Rosa (McLaren) -1:21.417 5. Paffet (McLaren)-1:21.957 Paffet (McLaren) -1:21.957 6. Badoer (Ferrari)-1:22.038 Badoer (Ferrari) -1:22.038 7. Kubica (BMW-Sauber)-1:22.341 Kubica (BMW-Sauber) -1:22.341 8. Loeb (Red Bull)-1:22.503 Loeb (Red Bull) -1:22.503 9. Piquet (Renault)-1.22.560 Piquet (Renault) -1.22.560 10. Klien (BMW-Sauber)-1:22.883 Klien (BMW-Sauber) -1:22.883 11. Hulkenberg (Williams)-1:23.467 Hulkenberg (Williams) -1:23.467 12. Liuzzi (Force India)-1:23.794 Liuzzi (Force India) -1:23.794 13. Sutil (Force India)-1:23.832 Sutil (Force India) -1:23.832 14. Gene (Ferrari)-1:24.177 Gene (Ferrari) -1:24.177 15. Senna (Honda)-1:24.343 Senna (Honda) -1:24.343 16. Van der Garde (Renault)-1:24.908 Van der Garde (Renault) -1:24.908 17. Di Grassi (Renault)-1:25.512 Di Grassi (Renault) -1:25.512
Sack the board! Sack the board! Sack the board!
Is Bernie thick or something, if he kicks all these tracks off or something, we'll end up with about 15. Considering this year we had 18. We need to bring back some good tracks for 09. Really, if France, Canada and China go. We reality need to bring back tracks from:
Indianapolis
Algarve (Is done, F1 testing, why the hell not?)
Have two Japanese GP's (Fuji and Suzuka)
Hence a new calendar of this(Changes in bold)
Australia - Melbourne
Malaysia - Sepang
Japan - Suzuka
Bahrain - Sakhir
Spain - Barcelona
Portugal - Algarve
Monaco - Monte Carlo
Turkey - Istanbul
Britain - Silverstone
Germany - Nurburgring
Hungary - Budapest
European - Valencia
Belgian - Spa
Italian - Monza
Singapore
Japanese - Fuji
UAE - Abu Dhabi
USA - Indianapolis
Brazil - Interlagos
All tracks added are looking for F1 seats, and I think this will work well until 2010.
Option two is that everyone does a runner and create a rival series, that I will support.
Of course that plank Ecclestone will not listen to me and we'll have the fewest F1 races in a season since 1983.
Suggestion/Rant Over
I have no idea how I ended up with duplicates in the previous post as there were no duplicates on the list I copied.
this is so offtopic :)
I've been a nut for a while. But now I have fellow people to chat about it with :)
They were just talking about the printer being full of paper. technology is so great, we can put toilets and printers in space. there is no limit to the ability of mankind. well...there is...I'm thinking Renault by the look of those testing times. AND HELLO SATO IS at the top! woohoo! bring him back!
Looking good for Sato and Buemi
I watched an hour of Nasa TV one day where they were trying to get a printer to work.
I don't think we can take anything from the times because we don't know how many laps people run, when they were out or what configuration their car was in. Apart from BMW which was in ugly configuration.
I think tomorrow's 3-way shootout will be more indicative, with Bourdais joining in the fun. :D
But how about Loeb, eh? He did pretty well today. Bruno Senna? Not as much.
Oooh, harsh! :P
Grrrrrrrrrr
Have a look at the pics that have been dropiod
Awwww, thats cute
Even as someone who's been a big fan of the new aerodynamic regulations, I have to say that BMW's front wing endplates look awful.
If you're looking for another service linked to a social network, then you could try My Opera.
The two most popular blogging platforms are Blogger and Wordpress.
In terms of premium provides, Squarespace is getting loads of good press at the moment, and a lot of media companies use Typepad. I've never tried either service, though.
There are also a number of services that are a cross between a traditional blogging platform and a microblogging solution. Posterous is generating a lot of hype at the moment. Soup.io is another option.
Alternative traditional platforms include Blogsome, Blog.com, Blogr and Terapad.
I wouldn't dare attempt to link to all of those, so I've used Shrink2One.
http://shrink2one.com/a96
I can't believe Nasa TV are going to cut from live coverage of the transfer of the MPLM to show us hi def replays of stuff they didn't show live yesterday. Tomorrow we will probably get hi def coverage of the stuff we are not seeing today.
Today's testing times:
http://www.f1technical.net/news/11091
Of note, Loeb was much quicker than Senna, van der Garde or Di Grassi. Whilst there are some mitigating circumstances such as Loeb having completed more laps, I believe this is only the third ever time he's driven a single-seater. An astonishing performance really, given Rossi's (lack of) pace following a very intensive testing programme.
Apparently van der Garde stuffed his Renault into the tyres, which probably didn't help his pace. The team were able to repair the car though, and get him back out.
we made the main sidepodtheme ourselves (with inspiration from itv). the panel intro is an apple loop, but all we tell you right now is that it's called:
Intro > C6
we'll dig through and find the name for ya later.
yup, they're all home grown using garageband. if you're interested in creating loops (or in fact being creative in any way), simply buy a mac... after that the rest is easy :)
Is Steve Jobs paying you commission yet?
we couldn't take money from steve. we like to take money from other people, then give it to steve.
yes, sorry my brain is broken today.
the issues i have are:
- the project needs to be hosted elsewhere (in case bernie objects)
- i know next to nothing about coding in C
at the moment, i haven't thought beyond that, it never even occurred to me the feed was unencrypted to be honest.
A bit more Dennis Moore than Robin Hood
Well you created sidepodcast's video hosting.
Which reminds me, how bad did the buffering get last night?
that is some kind of awesome. you've totally beaten akismet with that one :)
i did.
don't ask.
Oh dear, sounds like a good job my volume did break.
Realised it was a fixable issue, as in I had mute on ;)
must've been catching :)
Haha.
We had buffering?
Hmmm. The hosting issue I was hoping I could pass off to you :) but I understand completely. I might try biting in to the code over the break and see if I can adapt it as much as I want. Maybe I'll release a standalone exe file next year. we'll see...
remember - everything encrypted can be beaten :)
by smarter people than me, yes.
Haha
Yeah, thanks for the wordpress tip, by the way, exactly what I wanted.
It looks like Giedo or as he calls himself "GIGAfast" is no Kubica or Kovalainen, probably winning WSR title is not everything.
oh good god that is hideous! and people thought dumbo-flugel were bad. yuck! oh i hope it's gonna make a significant improvement in their performance if they stick with it. Seriously, it looks a bit like a snow plow or something. How can anyone think based on the BMW and Honda today that those cars look better than the '08 ones.
Also from testing i notice that in pics of the slick tyres the softer compound have the pink stripe...are they really sticking with pink? i thought it was originally just an experiment.
So nice to have some kinda f1 news though, even if it's just about testing the new ugly parts for the new cars ;)
It was ok... it got much better when the number of callers dropped (sorry Dom), and the test they did after the show with others hosting the call seemed to be even better. :)
good spot.
personally i can't see past the nose, so honestly pink is fine.
Am I the only one who likes these new cars?
:)
the timing encryption is beaten easily - just with the user name and password like you'd do on windows. so it's not beaten so much, just used properly under a c environment. I didn't figure it out - someone else did that. I'm just thinking of taking to a next level.
I hate testing, for the sole reason i have no idea if this is good or bad, gets my hopes up a little :/
As Brazilian drivers go, i reckon Rubens would have done much much better :)
lol it really is awful...and to think, i thought the 04 (?) BMW nose was bad.
it looks like some sort of bulldozer shoveler thing. and that's not a good thing :)
That's a Williams not a BMW but it looks better than the current BMW
It is indeed - a cool little service.
By the way, has comment editing been disabled recently?
nope?
edit: nope.
That was bad, this new car is nice.
Oh right. I'll try Opera.
And now Firefox.
Edit: Well that worked. Although Chrome and Opera don't. I'm running the latest versions of both.
I think I've used Chrome and Opera to edit comments in the past, although I can't be sure which versions worked.
You can edit in Firefox?
Edit : Actually you can, my mistake.
as far as i know we've not touched a thing? i know that's hard to believe, but no fiddling from us whatsoever.
could ya try the same on f1 minute if you get a second?
Yeah, although the 'Sidepodcast' text in the header looks dodgy in Firefox.
Hmm... appears that Safari doesn't work either. I'm sure it used too as well, although I'm not running the latest version.
Hmm, aye.
Sure, I'll head over there.
ah sorry, i think it was the BMW badge on the nose that threw me. i didn't watch f1 in 2004 so i didn't really know, i just remembered seeing it somewhere.
chrome comment editing works for me.
Are you also using 0.3.154.9?
I've just been to F1 Minute, and found exactly the same thing over there.
cheers. i shall look into it some more.
Just a question about sidepodpanel at autosport, whats the concept?
Happy 18th Scott, and congratulations on the panel yesterday :)
erm... i don't actually know... i got chrome just over a month ago...
I don't think there is a concept. The idea was floated last night and a few people decided that it was an interesting idea and that is it.
Why would anyone want to use Chrome anyway? Firefox is better, Safari too (another Apple product).
If you click on the spanner (top right-hand corner) and select 'About Google Chrome' it'll give you a version number.
ah right :) thanks, yeah it's 0.3.154.9 :)
Interesting. You're running Vista, right? My desktop has XP, so it could be an OS specific issue, although I've no idea what.
ummmm, righto, think aloud... dunno.
ideas?
in what way?
I'll give ye a ol' dropio
I have just checked the web awards thingy and we are still elading the nominations for the best online community. However we are now only one point ahead of a bunch of inuit environmentalists. Sidepodcast cannot lose to inuit environmentalists. If you have not voted yet click on the link below and about one third down the page you will find sidepodcast. All you have to do is click on the little green + sign.
Do you really want to lose to a bunch of environmentalists? What would Jeremy Clarkson say?
http://2008.weblogawards.org/nominations/best-online-community/index.php#comment-13003
lou just mentioned this on identi.ca:
anyone fancy explaining those sidepods?
Well since their lives are revolved around them.
Doesn't look like they are trying out for the 09 regs like everyone else
We may have some problems
Jennifer puts the other side of most environmental issues with some solid facts.
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jennifier produces a blog against the prevailing tide of opinion. She bases her conclusions on facts and destroys argumnents that are not based on facts
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I enjoy Jennifer's critical analysis of so-called scientific experts and she finds flaws in thier "so-called" facts or assumptions.
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All from the Inuit thingy majigy environmentally awful site.
Why can't we negative blogs?
I suggested it could be KERS... i can't think of any other reason fo having more vents/sidepod extentions...
That lump must be KERS. I can't think what else it could be.
Come on Sato-san! I wonder what specific KPIs STR will use to pick the new drivers. We know that Sato can drive, we know Buemi can give strong feed back, we know that Bore-day is good, but was outclassed - it'd be interesting to hear the chatter around the dinner table with Dietrich, Franz and Gerhard.
yeah i'm running Vista :)
Can't stop thinking about that BMW, it will come to me in my dreams tonight, I'm sure of that, it will devour me alive!
I think if 1998 Jordan married 1999 or 2000 Ferrari that would be the product of their marriage, the son of nothing!
There in my dreams everynight
That with Spurs
but it says that one nomination is sufficient - but i guess the more the merrier - let's intimidate the opposition :)
if it is, i wonder which teams are showing their true hands and who are trying to throw the opposition?
It would be odd to give a community award to a community that can't generate the most nominations. Can anyone having a look round understand the fun we have? In case they can't we should have the weight of numbers. We had over 150 teams in the Fantasy Racers so we should be able to rack up that number of nominations.
Now I'm thinking 1997 Ferrari marries 1998 Jordan...
Also, I've been thinking all day about 3rd place mystery for retiring drivers... Check it out: 2002 Irvine 3rd place Monza, retired the same year; 2003 Frentzen USA, 3rd place, moved to DTM; Wurz 2007, Canada, 3rd place, retired from racing; 2008 Canada, DC, 3rd place, the same; Rubens, UK, 3rd place, probably will retire... Spooky!
here are some details that may or may not relate to ferrari's kers implementation:
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/people/281799/exclusive-magneti-marelli-reveal-f1-kers.html
"Regenerative braking systems for 2009 are rapidly appearing, Magneti Marelli has revealed it is to join Flybrid, Williams, Zytek and Bosch in offering an off the shelf solution for Formula 1."
that's true to a point. there weren't 150 entrants in a week and a bit though. it took the best part of a season to meet that target.
this is like the scene from Hunt for Red October with Agent Ryan intensely looking at the photo of the submarine and those vents.
also, some info on an unexpected kers producer:
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/allarticles/281974/f1-kers-bosch-goes-modular.html
"Bosch has yet to run the system on a car, but it has already performed well on the test bench and is already being offered to partners, time will tell on how many will take it up but knowing Bosch, it will be rather a lot."
Hahahaha, what if, in the final vote, it came down to Sidepodcast-F1-Petrolhead fans and "a bunch of inuit environmentalists". Now that's funny. :D
Haha, the irony of the irony
woot! Rubens beat Massa in a race, in fact he did one better than that, he beat everyone :D he won! ok it's a karting race, but a win is a win :P
http://www.tsn.ca/auto_racing/story/?id=256160&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_auto_racing
he really is out to prove something isn't he?
have you put a link to the nominations page on facebook? I'm sure more people would vote if they knew it was happening.
he sooo deserves to be in f1 next year, if he had had a season like DC or piquet then i would understand, but he hasn't he has done so well.. :( the story didn't even make it onto the Honda website though :( which is a bad sign, news on Jenson's triathlons normally does.
ahh, interesting. that is bad news then.
well it might turn up during the week... I will keep a look out, but i don't think it will... :/
D'you know when SPP will be out?
Shame for such a quality driver.
wednesday evening. it's gonna be a tough edit.
ok
Well done Rubens. Interesting that Piquet got disqualified
Given how much of a Skype bill sideodcast towers runs up on Skype I wondered if you were aware that for £6.95 a month you can have unlimited international calls. I don't know if this works for conference calls though.
http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/allfeatures/subscriptions/#europeanSubscriptionTab
Was it him, or were Luciano Burti and Tony Kanaan putting in the fast laps? :P
In all seriousness though, I agree that he deserves to be in Formula One next year. Sadly, I fear that he's been dropped. I remember hearing an interview with him towards the end of the season (China, maybe) where he was sounding unbelievably dejected. I thought at that point he'd received word that his contract wouldn't be renewed.
I just got put in spam for trying to keep sidepodcast's phone bill down.
you just can't catch a break can ya?
didn't know that, very good info, thank you.
Brundle has confirmed his job, apparently:
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20982.html
so if i'm reading that right, assuming we don't go call crazy, £6.95 per month is all we'll ever pay?
hmmm.
Woot! :D
ahem
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!
that's fabulous news.
That's what I thought
Definitely WOOT :D
It looks like the recent appointment to the ICA may not be what we hoped for. Skip the comments by Ali and me on the link and go straight to johnbull's. He makes the case very clearly with no need for an introduction.
http://www.gpwizard.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7042.0
That is great to hear about Martin.
Looking forward to it - and no advertising :)
Awesome to hear about Martin - only him and Ted are worth keeping for the BBC (c'mon BBC, give Ted a job too!)
On the subject of KERS - is anyone else a little worried about a flywheel system being so close to a driver's head? What happens to these systems in an accident anyway?
Another Article on Bosch and Magneti Marelli's KERS Systems:
http://www.f1technical.net/news/11101
Fair point actually, they may move it around or something.
In an accident, good question, they might shut off automatically or the driver has some sort of button on the steering wheel. that, or break into tens of thousands of pieces.
There is no way you can stop a flywheel turning at 60k rpm by pressing a button without turning it into a lot of high speed shrapnel.