Middle of the week time again, and already attention has turned to Hungary. The rumours are that Piquet won't keep his seat at Renault, but haven't we been saying that all year? Anyway, here are some of the other things we're talking about:

  • The arguments are still raging over how to pronounce Not Seb's name. I'm loving that for once it is not just me that doesn't know how to say something. What we really need is for Name That Driver to grab him and tell us once and for all.
  • An interview with Jarno Trulli reveals the Trulliometer is somewhere in the middle as he suffered a bad race but believes the team can bounce back. I guess by bounce back he means bounce off someone else? I totally missed it during the race but he and Nakajima came together on the first corner which caused all the trouble. Let's take bets on who he can collide with next.
  • With it being a Wednesday, you must not forget the Pitlane Fanatic quiz. This week, Kathi has very kindly put up a prize in the shape of the Fantasy Racers top-scorer t-shirt, so head on over to answer the questions and have a go.

That'll do it for now, let's hope for a good Wednesday so as to prepare for the evil Thursday. Let us know what you're up to, and I'll see you in the comments.

1352 responses

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:07

    What happens if Kathi wins the quiz?

  • me14/07/2009 at 23:08

    What happens if Kathi wins the quiz?

    .........

    bugger!

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:09

    What happens if Kathi wins the quiz?

    Can she compete with Journyer?

  • Pat W14/07/2009 at 23:11

    I'm looking forward to the quiz, even though I'll be multitasking.

  • Kathi14/07/2009 at 23:14

    What happens if Kathi wins the quiz?

    I have no chance, no worries there.

  • Amy14/07/2009 at 23:14

    so i cant read everything posted since i went to sleep because im on my mobile but can i just say that i am pleased to see lewis is less expert than heikki :D

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:14

    I have no chance, no worries there.

    You never know.....

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:15

    so i cant read everything posted since i went to sleep because im on my mobile but can i just say that i am pleased to see lewis is less expert than heikki :D

    Not sure where, but Brendon says he'd like to marry you. FACT

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:17

    Benny Benny Benny

    Benny and the Jets

    'nuff said

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:18

    'nuff said

    Ah. Now that took a moment to work out.

  • Amy14/07/2009 at 23:22

    lewis's questions were also way way easier he got no really random ones they were all about f1 and mclaren! Ha.

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:23

    Ok...heres a slightly morbid but potentially fun game...

    You've just saved someones life, but because you've saved theirs, you're now dieing. You're lying in front of the person you've saved....

    What do you say?

  • Nick14/07/2009 at 23:23

    lewis's questions were also way way easier he got no really random ones they were all about f1 and mclaren! Ha.

    Is this a quiz... i will investigate

  • Steven Roy14/07/2009 at 23:24

    What do you say?

    Brake !

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:25

    What do you say?

    Give that back!

  • Nick14/07/2009 at 23:27

    Is this a quiz... i will investigate

    The 5th driver hasnt said anything...

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:30

    1642 emails....

    Half of them marked as important

    *sort by importance - ctrl-a - delete*

  • Steven Roy14/07/2009 at 23:31

    1642 emails....

    You have assistants to deal with stuff like that now

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:31

    *sort by importance - ctrl-a - delete*

    Why did you sort them if you deleted them all?

    I'm off, G'night all. Thanks for another fun evening! Tomorrow night - the new Harry Potter starts at 9.30 till 12.00. Joy upon all joys...

    Night!!

  • Journeyer14/07/2009 at 23:32

    Morning, everyone.

    Is it just me, or does the sound work with FF3.5 now? :D

  • Journeyer14/07/2009 at 23:32

    And wow, lots of comments last night!

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:32

    Is it just me, or does the sound work with FF3.5 now? :D

    Yep, it does :D

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:33

    You have assistants to deal with stuff like that now

    As I quit... I don't have an assistant. My ex-work keeps hassling me though - so far they've offered me more time off, more money and more assistants - and a managerial position.

    Why did you sort them if you deleted them all?

    If I sort by importance, it groups them. ctrl-a just selects all in that grouping.

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:34

    As I quit... I don't have an assistant. My ex-work keeps hassling me though - so far they've offered me more time off, more money and more assistants - and a managerial position.

    Whats next for Flibster then?

  • Journeyer14/07/2009 at 23:35

    As I quit... I don't have an assistant. My ex-work keeps hassling me though - so far they've offered me more time off, more money and more assistants - and a managerial position.

    You quit?! But why?

  • Andy Taylor14/07/2009 at 23:35

    As I quit... I don't have an assistant. My ex-work keeps hassling me though - so far they've offered me more time off, more money and more assistants - and a managerial position.

    When did this happen? I must have missed the memo.

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:35

    Whats next for Flibster then?

    Dunno.

    Enjoying Paris though.

  • guille230614/07/2009 at 23:35

    hello there sidepodpeople

  • Steven Roy14/07/2009 at 23:36

    Enjoying Paris though.

    Which part of Paris are you in?

  • lou14/07/2009 at 23:36

    that was strange, had to refresh the doohickey 3 times before it realised there was a daily for the 15th.

  • Steven Roy14/07/2009 at 23:36

    Hi Journeyer and Guille

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:36

    Enjoying Paris though.

    How come I didn't move to Paris when I left my last job?

  • me14/07/2009 at 23:37

    that was strange, had to refresh the doohickey 3 times before it realised there was a daily for the 15th.

    it might know something we don't?

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:37

    Which part of Paris are you in?

    Artists quarter. About 10 minutes walk to Mont Matre *uhhhh...however it's spelt.*

    Leaving tomorrow though - Taking my car on a little trip to unknown race track for a blast. Called the Nordschliefe or something like that.

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:38

    Hehe. rm * - Unix is so trusting.

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:38

    When did this happen?

    Thurdsay afternoon - 16:46 to be precise.

  • Steven Roy14/07/2009 at 23:38

    Artists quarter. About 10 minutes walk to Mont Matre *uhhhh...however it's spelt.*

    Nice area.

    Leaving tomorrow though - Taking my car on a little trip to unknown race track for a blast. Called the Nordschliefe or something like that.

    Try not to bend it or yourself.

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:38

    Leaving tomorrow though - Taking my car on a little trip to unknown race track for a blast. Called the Nordschliefe or something like that.

    heehe whats bought all this on? (your life is more interesting than sleep)

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:39

    Hehe. rm * - Unix is so trusting.

    I seem to remember that doing rm -r * in the root directory is a bad thing...

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:39

    Leaving tomorrow though - Taking my car on a little trip to unknown race track for a blast. Called the Nordschliefe or something like that.

    Not the Lancia surely?

  • me14/07/2009 at 23:39

    Hehe. rm * - Unix is so trusting.

    one day you'll do that and the internets will just stop.

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:39

    I seem to remember that doing rm -r * in the root directory is a bad thing...

    Hmmm. I *think* I'm in the right place.......

  • Andy Taylor14/07/2009 at 23:40

    one day you'll do that and the internets will just stop.

    Nah. Typing "google" into Google will break the Internet though.

  • Andy Taylor14/07/2009 at 23:41

    I seem to remember that doing rm -r * in the root directory is a bad thing...

    sudo rm -Rf

    Then typing in the root password, that's worse.

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:41

    Try not to bend it or yourself.

    Meh - Car is more important than me. I'm already too badly broken.

    heehe whats bought all this on?

    General annoyances with life. My exact words to the MD was *during a budget meeting....* "Sod it - I quit. Enjoy!"

    Not the Lancia surely?

    I wish - still in many, MANY pieces. Some larger than others though.

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:43

    General annoyances with life. My exact words to the MD was *during a budget meeting....* "Sod it - I quit. Enjoy!"

    wow, go you for going against the flow! sounds like you've had an awesome few days

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:43

    Then typing in the root password, that's worse.

    Whenever I'm in a *nix system it's using the root account.

    At uni we discovered that someone at IBM had left one of their servers that was visible to the internet with the default Root user and password of root and root. 8O :D

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:43

    sudo rm -Rf

    Then typing in the root password, that's worse.

    But hang on, that's exactly what I did.

    I'll be right back....

  • lou14/07/2009 at 23:44

    Leaving tomorrow though - Taking my car on a little trip to unknown race track for a blast. Called the Nordschliefe or something like that.

    wow! have fun!

  • Andy Taylor14/07/2009 at 23:46

    Whenever I'm in a *nix system it's using the root account.

    Tsk. Very bad practice. Exactly what I do though :)

    When I was a student we discovered it was possible to print out files stored in other user accounts on our Unix box. Helped me through a couple of assignments that did.

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:50

    Tsk. Very bad practice. Exactly what I do though :)

    Phew, yes it's OK. I checked 6 times and I was deleting from the right directory.

  • Andy Taylor14/07/2009 at 23:50

    Here's an amazing picture of a bubble being burst.

    http://bit.ly/FeVEL

  • me14/07/2009 at 23:51

    Phew, yes it's OK. I checked 6 times and I was deleting from the right directory.

    hehe. i can still see google. you're okay.

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:52

    hehe. i can still see google. you're okay.

    Oh! I should put that in my test plan :D

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:52

    Here's an amazing picture of a bubble being burst.

    wow

  • Steven Roy14/07/2009 at 23:53

    Here's an amazing picture of a bubble being burst.

    Nice

  • Journeyer14/07/2009 at 23:53

    Here's an amazing picture of a bubble being burst.

    Amazing.

  • lou14/07/2009 at 23:54

    i'm off to sleep, night everyone! x

  • me14/07/2009 at 23:55

    night lou.

  • Journeyer14/07/2009 at 23:55

    i'm off to sleep, night everyone! x

    Night Lou.

  • Paul14/07/2009 at 23:55

    i'm off to sleep, night everyone! x

    Night lou. and I love your Goodwood photos

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:56

    night lou, im gonna make a second attempt at sleeping. unless anyone has any exciting storys for their day/week/month?

  • lou14/07/2009 at 23:56

    Night lou. and I love your Goodwood photos

    aw thank you :)

  • Steven Roy14/07/2009 at 23:57

    Night Lou

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:58

    wow! have fun!

    I have my crash helmet out of storage especially. :D

    Aiming of a bridge to gantry time of 8:30or below. Anything higher than that is frankly unacceptable.

    Considering Clarkson did it in a diseaseal Jag in 9:59 and he's a fat buffoon who didn't know the track and had entirely the wrong car and Sabine did it in 9:12 iirc - I will have my work cut out for me, but it should be fun.

  • me14/07/2009 at 23:59

    I have my crash helmet out of storage especially. :D

    we need pics!

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:59

    Aiming of a bridge to gantry time of 8:30or below. Anything higher than that is frankly unacceptable.

    what car?

  • Flibster14/07/2009 at 23:59

    Oooh. Is the GP worth watching?

    First one I haven't seen in many years and I didn't miss it at all.

  • Jon Waldock14/07/2009 at 23:59

    we need pics!

    out of car of course ;) taking pics in car is now banned :P

  • Journeyer14/07/2009 at 23:59

    Oooh. Is the GP worth watching?

    First one I haven't seen in many years and I didn't miss it at all.

    German? Yup, worth watching. :)

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:00

    Leaving tomorrow though - Taking my car on a little trip to unknown race track for a blast. Called the Nordschliefe or something like that.

    Nice one :-)

  • me15/07/2009 at 00:00

    out of car of course ;) taking pics in car is now banned :P

    of the ring?

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 00:00

    out of car of course ;) taking pics in car is now banned :P

    What about tweeting?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 00:00

    Aiming of a bridge to gantry time of 8:30or below. Anything higher than that is frankly unacceptable.

    Be sure to let us know how you get on. I assume you are driving your Mazda

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 00:00

    Oooh. Is the GP worth watching?

    First one I haven't seen in many years and I didn't miss it at all.

    It's worth is just for Ruben's post-race interview

  • me15/07/2009 at 00:00

    Oooh. Is the GP worth watching?

    won't it be in french?

  • me15/07/2009 at 00:01

    What about tweeting?

    :D

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:01

    General annoyances with life. My exact words to the MD was *during a budget meeting....* "Sod it - I quit. Enjoy!"

    Blimey. If it wasn't working though, best thing..

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:01

    of the ring?

    yup

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:01

    Aiming of a bridge to gantry time of 8:30or below. Anything higher than that is frankly unacceptable.

    Don't do the Seven Second Ring thing which someone posted the other day.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:02

    Oooh. Is the GP worth watching?

    First one I haven't seen in many years and I didn't miss it at all.

    Yes, one of the better ones this year. You can probably skip Hungary, but then you knew that.

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 00:02

    we need pics!

    I'll go find a camera shop.

    I know exactly where my camera is. It's on the bed back home, with the other stuff that I meant to pack and then emptied all the crud out of my bag on top of before repacking it...

    My phone is there, as is my MP3 charger and usb cables....

    I've done well :D

    what car?

    RX-8 with a couple of handling/braking tweaks, plus a lifted rev limit.

    Was 9500 rpm.

    Now 10500rpm. :D

  • me15/07/2009 at 00:02

    yup

    boo. why?

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 00:03

    It's worth is just for Ruben's post-race interview

    I did see that while trying to find the bly-ray channel on my mates AV setup.

    He did seem a touch unhappy.

    German? Yup, worth watching. :)

    Past the first lap?

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:04

    boo. why?

    Theres no solid reason given but...

    http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/videoban.html

    should give you more info

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 00:04

    boo. why?

    People with cameras try to go faster to impress and end up going beyond their ability.

  • me15/07/2009 at 00:05

    Theres no solid reason given but...

    how are they going to know?

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:06

    how are they going to know?

    ziss is a good question, but spot checks on cars im guessing

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:10

    Flibster, remember to have a look at this when you come back....

    http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/photos/photosites.html

    could be good

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:10

    We Were Promised Jetpacks - name of a band my sister has recommended to me

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:11

    We Were Promised Jetpacks - name of a band my sister has recommended to me

    haha good name, never heard of them

  • me15/07/2009 at 00:11

    We Were Promised Jetpacks - name of a band my sister has recommended to me

    great name!

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 00:11

    how are they going to know?

    I think they check. I'd bet a hidden camera would be harder to spot though.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 00:15

    Nice to see coments are still here, i fell asleep on the sofa have apparently been pressing buttons.

    My neck is cricked... brilliant

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 00:15

    Flibster, remember to have a look at this when you come back....

    http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/photos/photosites.html

    could be good

    Ooooh.

    So - shall I go for 2 wheels or on the roof?

  • me15/07/2009 at 00:16

    Nice to see coments are still here, i fell asleep on the sofa have apparently been pressing buttons.

    those 3 hours catching up on you?

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 00:16

    So - shall I go for 2 wheels or on the roof?

    2 wheels over a kerb is good

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:17

    So - shall I go for 2 wheels or on the roof?

    "

    Optional extras available at additional cost include armco repairs, safety car attendance, vehicle recovery, track closure, hospital stays and helicopter rides. I recommend avoiding these. If you can't, then the following price-list may help:

    * Base fee for attendance of armco truck: €150

    * Removing damaged armco: €10/metre (x2 or x3 or x4 for multiple-height sections)

    * Replacement armco: €31/metre (x2 or x3 for double/triple height)

    * Removing damaged armco posts: €5.10 each

    * Replacing armco post: €39 each

    * Safety car attendance: €82 per 30 mins (car + 2 people)

    * Circuit closure: €1,350 per hour

    * Recovery truck: €190 (inc VAT)

    * Hospital stay & air ambulance: Let's just say, do NOT go there without travel insurance! (Though a European Health Card - which replaced the E111 - may cover the hospital bit.)

    Everything except the recovery truck is then subject to 19% VAT.

    The record armco bill I'm aware of is €15,000. That was a car that managed to flatten a very impressive length of armco between the Quiddlebacher Hohe bridge and the crest on the approach to Flugplatz. But even a minor bump can turn into a surprisingly expensive day out."

    I'm going neither...just in case...

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 00:18

    I'm going neither...just in case...

    If you do it right you won't need to pay to remove the damaged armco. :D

    It'll be wrapped around the car. ;)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 00:18

    those 3 hours catching up on you?

    Yes... lots of rubbish to sift though this afternoon as well.

    Night all.. I dont think i have a song stuck in my head tonight!

    :D

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 00:20

    The record armco bill I'm aware of is €15,000. That was a car that managed to flatten a very impressive length of armco between the Quiddlebacher Hohe bridge and the crest on the approach to Flugplatz. But even a minor bump can turn into a surprisingly expensive day out."

    Hang on, are you making those names up? Aren't they from Harry Potter?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:20

    Night Nick.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:21

    How do you get insurance to go on the Nordschleife? My car insurance explicity forbids it on the front page - which I thought was kinda cool.

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:21

    Hang on, are you making those names up? Aren't they from Harry Potter?

    hahaha

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:21

    Night Nick

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:21

    How do you get insurance to go on the Nordschleife? My car insurance explicity forbids it on the front page - which I thought was kinda cool.

    I'm not sure you do

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:22

    How do you get insurance to go on the Nordschleife? My car insurance explicity forbids it on the front page - which I thought was kinda cool.

    I'm not sure you do

    Ah.

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:22

    Ah.

    http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/insurance.html

  • guille230615/07/2009 at 00:22

    night nick (and lou before...)

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 00:22

    I'm not sure you do

    You can get specific insurance as it says on Ben's site. It's expensive and has high excesses and low maximum payouts.

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 00:23

    Must go to bed. Night all.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 00:23

    How do you get insurance to go on the Nordschleife? My car insurance explicity forbids it on the front page - which I thought was kinda cool.

    You can always get insurance for driving on a track. It is not at all cheap though.

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 00:24

    'night night people

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:24

    Night Andy.

    I should probably go soon, just need to procrastinate for a bit, still too awake.

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 00:24

    You can always get insurance for driving on a track. It is not at all cheap though.

    It's better to drive your "other car" on the track

  • guille230615/07/2009 at 00:26

    night andy

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 00:31

    You can always get insurance for driving on a track. It is not at all cheap though.

    As a public toll road it's covered by my insurer as long as I inform them on how many days I'm going to be there and pay a small charge. :D

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:33

    You can always get insurance for driving on a track. It is not at all cheap though.

    As a public toll road it's covered by my insurer as long as I inform them on how many days I'm going to be there and pay a small charge. :D

    Heh :-)

    Not that I'm going there any time soon, just generally curious in case I found myself there..

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 00:37

    Right - it's gone half 2

    Have an early start tomorrow - plus need to give the car a wipe over to clean all the crap off it *smoother aero... better performance. ;)*

    It used to be red - now it's a mix of bird poop, mud and dust... I really don't like cleaning cars. I prefer driving them.

    TTFN

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 00:39

    TTFN

    Have fun

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 00:39

    Right - it's gone half 2

    Have an early start tomorrow - plus need to give the car a wipe over to clean all the crap off it *smoother aero... better performance. ;)*

    Have a good one :-)

  • guille230615/07/2009 at 00:39

    bye flibster, enjoy your ride tomorrow

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 00:40

    TTFN

    Enjoy.

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:50

    See ya flibster

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 00:51

    Hello all

  • guille230615/07/2009 at 00:53

    Hello all

    hi joe

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 00:55

    I have a hypothetical question, would you guys hunt me down like the dog I am, if I go to a NASCAR race, at the track that formerly (hopefully once again) held one the best F1 races on the calender?

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 00:57

    I have a hypothetical question, would you guys hunt me down like the dog I am, if I go to a NASCAR race, at the track that formerly (hopefully once again) held one the best F1 races on the calender?

    Its the oval version of the track? umm, consider the hunt started

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 00:58

    Its the oval version of the track? umm, consider the hunt started

    No, hold off on the hunt for a sec, it's Montreal. There will be a Daytona Prototype race there? Although the only reason I would go is I love Montreal and the Budweiser Beer Garden and the Casino

  • guille230615/07/2009 at 01:01

    No, hold off on the hunt for a sec, it's Montreal. There will be a Daytona Prototype race there? Although the only reason I would go is I love Montreal and the Budweiser Beer Garden and the Casino

    (puts down the sword and shield)

    given those circumstances...

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 01:02

    I have a hypothetical question, would you guys hunt me down like the dog I am, if I go to a NASCAR race, at the track that formerly (hopefully once again) held one the best F1 races on the calender?

    If you're going specifically for N-Word and GA, yeah I would..

    Whereas if you're going to Montreal and those things happen to be on and you decide to take a looksee, that's not so bad.

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 01:03

    (puts down the sword and shield)

    given those circumstances...

    hehe. I just found out a great band will be playing in the beergarden (bud girls there as well). I told the lead singer, I'll by a GA ticket and go from the casino to the beergarden and never see a car the entire weekend. The trip is a fraction of what the F1 weekend cost

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 01:04

    In actual fact, one of the things that impressed me most at Goodwood was Rusty Wallace in his NASCAR at speed, he really went for it.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 01:04

    hehe. I just found out a great band will be playing in the beergarden (bud girls there as well). I told the lead singer, I'll by a GA ticket and go from the casino to the beergarden and never see a car the entire weekend. The trip is a fraction of what the F1 weekend cost

    I'm sold.

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 01:05

    In actual fact, one of the things that impressed me most at Goodwood was Rusty Wallace in his NASCAR at speed, he really went for it.

    If Scott Speed is running, I might stick a crow bar into my wallet for a grand stand seat.... about 1/4 the price of an F1 ticket

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 01:05

    Should probably get to bed. Still don't feel properly tired. Ah well. More work-based tedium awaits, then the quiz! and the podcast with a crazyman at the same time..

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 01:06

    talk to you later

  • guille230615/07/2009 at 01:51

    night all (is there anybody out there...?)

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 01:51

    night all (is there anybody out there...?)

    Yeah, me...see ya

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 04:47

    night all (is there anybody out there...?)

    And to think we were only just talking about Area 51 yesterday :)

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 05:38

    (is there anybody out there...?)

    See, now that reminded me of a Pink Floyd song (on The Wall)

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 05:43

    Good morning

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 05:48

    Good morning

    Good morning Jackie

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 05:49

    Hi Paul .. Is it a lovely day where you are at?

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 05:51

    Hi Paul .. Is it a lovely day where you are at?

    Um. It might be called lovely. It's rather cold though, 5 degrees.

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 05:52

    Um. It might be called lovely. It's rather cold though, 5 degrees.

    Souns like a nice morning for a brisk walk then

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 05:53

    Souns like a nice morning for a brisk walk then

    Yes, except it's almost 4 in the afternoon ;-)

    Should be a brisk walk back to the car after work though.

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 05:55

    Yes, except it's almost 4 in the afternoon ;-)

    haha oh well, not long to go till home time so that's a bonus. I've not even started work yet. Just mulling over a cup of coffee and reading the news before I go have a shower

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 05:56

    haha oh well, not long to go till home time so that's a bonus. I've not even started work yet. Just mulling over a cup of coffee and reading the news before I go have a shower

    Well I hope it's a great day then

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 05:59

    Well I hope it's a great day then

    me too :D

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 05:59

    Tis very quiet this (morning) no Amy or Journeyer

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 06:00

    Tis very quiet this (morning) no Amy or Journeyer

    It's been a bit that way this time of day. I'm just trying to distract myself from what I really should be doing.

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 06:01

    It's been a bit that way this time of day. I'm just trying to distract myself from what I really should be doing.

    Ooh I'm good at that :)

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 06:03

    Ooh I'm good at that :)

    Me too, and I really shouldn't be

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 06:03

    Morning all,

    What's this I keep hearing about Sidepodcast radio shows?

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 06:04

    What's this I keep hearing about Sidepodcast radio shows?

    Morning Gavin. RG has a bit about it in the wiki .. he has very ambitious plans

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 06:04

    What's this I keep hearing about Sidepodcast radio shows?

    First I heard was on the Debrief. Awaiting further info....

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 06:06

    I don't have enough time to keep up with all that goes on in sidepodland as it is, without trying to fit in more shows LOL. I've only just finished listening to the safety series I'm so far behind.

  • Paul15/07/2009 at 06:07

    I don't have enough time to keep up with all that goes on in sidepodland as it is, without trying to fit in more shows LOL. I've only just finished listening to the safety series I'm so far behind.

    I don't try anymore. I don't even keep up with the comments. *Life* is intruding.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 06:07

    What's this I keep hearing about Sidepodcast radio shows?

    Morning Gavin. RG has a bit about it in the wiki .. he has very ambitious plans

    I'd love to be a part of that!

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 06:08

    I'd love to be a part of that!

    Gavin does desert island F1?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 06:10

    I'd love to be a part of that!

    Gavin does desert island F1?

    Maybe ... I could think of a few songs that would fit F1 drivers ;)

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 06:12

    Maybe ... I could think of a few songs that would fit F1 drivers ;)

    Quite a few of the ABBA songs could be appropriate

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 06:13

    Quite a few of the ABBA songs could be appropriate

    The winner takes it all. Gimme gimme gimme etc

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 06:21

    Quite a few of the ABBA songs could be appropriate

    The winner takes it all. Gimme gimme gimme etc

    You could probably make a musical out of those songs ... oh wait... ;)

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 06:21

    The winner takes it all. Gimme gimme gimme etc

    Fernando, obviously.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 06:45

    Obviously, and unfortunately, the songs will have to be podsafe ones :(

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 06:46

    Obviously, and unfortunately, the songs will have to be podsafe ones :(

    Create our own versions? :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 06:46

    Obviously, and unfortunately, the songs will have to be podsafe ones :(

    Oh bugger :(

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 06:48

    Create our own versions? :D

    Sidepodcast - The musical?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 06:49

    Create our own versions? :D

    Sidepodcast - The musical?

    Mr. C. would make an excellent Phantom!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 07:54

    Quiet in here, innit?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 07:58

    Morning.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 07:59

    Morning.

    Good Morning!

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 08:00

    Morning.

    it suuuuure is. well it isnt here. but i'm sure you wouldn't lie to us.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 08:06

    Amy, have you seen this? http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 08:07

    Amy, have you seen this? http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/

    ooh no but I'm excited already

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 08:21

    ooh no but I'm excited already

    now I really want some Georgie Pie. Damn nostalgia.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 08:40

    Why is it so hard to decline birthday cream cakes without offending the birthday celebrant?

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 08:41

    Why is it so hard to decline birthday cream cakes without offending the birthday celebrant?

    the last office birthday we had had two kinds of cake. I declined the first easily because I wanted the second. I don't think this helps you.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 08:45

    the last office birthday we had had two kinds of cake. I declined the first easily because I wanted the second. I don't think this helps you.

    Hehe, no. Appreciate it though :)

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 08:48

    Can anyone try to find out if this is legit? It looks like it is...

    http://twitter.com/Kimi_Raikkonen

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 08:50

    Can anyone try to find out if this is legit? It looks like it is...

    I remember hearing a few months back that its fake

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 08:50

    I remember hearing a few months back that its fake

    Oh, shame about that.

  • F1Wolf15/07/2009 at 08:51

    Oh, shame about that.

    not much shame, he doesn't say much anyway (whether real or fake :-) )

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 08:52

    not much shame, he doesn't say much anyway (whether real or fake :-) )

    good point there. for a fake account, he doesn't say a lot, does he?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 08:53

    For a big day in F1, it sure is quiet in the news...

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 08:55

    For a big day in F1, it sure is quiet in the news...

    Oh god, what massive thing is supposed to be happening today then?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 08:57

    Oh god, what massive thing is supposed to be happening today then?

    Revised Concorde Agreement should be up for signature today, if I'm not mistaken...

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 08:57

    Revised Concorde Agreement should be up for signature today, if I'm not mistaken...

    Which ties in nicely with the end of Bernie's 48-hour commitment to clean up the mess.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 08:58

    Revised Concorde Agreement should be up for signature today, if I'm not mistaken...

    And are all the teams invited to sign that or just the one's Max decides are allowed today?

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 08:59

    Why is it so hard to decline birthday cream cakes without offending the birthday celebrant?

    There was outrage in the office yesterday when this happened:

    Unfortunately I turned 27 on Friday.

    However I do have some dried fruits and nuts at my desk to celebrate.

    Cheers

    Olly

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 08:59

    And are all the teams invited to sign that or just the one's Max decides are allowed today?

    All 13 teams + FIA + FOM.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 08:59

    And are all the teams invited to sign that or just the one's Max decides are allowed today?

    15 people will sign.

    13 teams, Max and Bernie for CVC

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:03

    15 people will sign.

    I see.

    Presumably just because they sign this doesn't mean they're all best friends again, though?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:04

    There was outrage in the office yesterday when this happened:

    An actual outrage?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 09:12

    Presumably just because they sign this doesn't mean they're all best friends again, though?

    It might seem that way (with their press statements), but they don't need to be. What matters is that they're legally binded to the sport.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:14

    Presumably just because they sign this doesn't mean they're all best friends again, though?

    If this works Max will probably be out, F1 will stay as it is (except for the ban on refueling), we'll have 3 new teams, and Bernie will stay at the helm.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:15

    An actual outrage?

    Well no, but a lot of people complained to poor Ollie about a lack of cake related birthday material. Which I felt was quite unfair.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:16

    Morning all... i just woke up feeling pro active... put all my washing in the machine and turned it on without checking anything. My dry clothes have been drying for 15 mins....

  • F1Wolf15/07/2009 at 09:16

    Oh god, what massive thing is supposed to be happening today then?

    and then there is that expected public execution of Sebastien Bourdais as Mr Saward described it :-)

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 09:20

    Morning all... i just woke up feeling pro active... put all my washing in the machine and turned it on without checking anything. My dry clothes have been drying for 15 mins....

    No kitty in the washer, then? ;)

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 09:20

    and then there is that expected public execution of Sebastien Bourdais as Mr Saward described it :-)

    someone is about to die on Neighbours and Home and Away, I couldn't take another ;)

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:21

    Well no, but a lot of people complained to poor Ollie about a lack of cake related birthday material. Which I felt was quite unfair.

    I agree. I don't understand the social conventions surrounding birthdays. I would much rather someone brought cakes in because they were in an exceedingly good mood and wanted to share, or they felt like we'd done a good job.

    A birthday is such an arbitrary thing.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:21

    someone is about to die on Neighbours and Home and Away, I couldn't take another ;)

    Does New Zealand have a Neighbousr/ Home and away equivalent?

  • F1Wolf15/07/2009 at 09:23

    http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/07/concorde-agreement-close-but-not-today/

    something on that concorde

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 09:23

    A birthday is such an arbitrary thing.

    what I hate at my office is when the loud ITS MY BIRTHDAY people have birthdays they take a hat around and expect you to put money in for them and whisper about how cheap you are behind your back if you dont, yet there is people like me who dont make a big deal about our birthdays so people don't know they're happening, so no one does anything for it. I think its something they should do for everyone or no one.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:23

    I agree. I don't understand the social conventions surrounding birthdays. I would much rather someone brought cakes in because they were in an exceedingly good mood and wanted to share, or they felt like we'd done a good job.

    I took in a big bowl and 10 family bags of malteasers... and they went quick!

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 09:23

    Does New Zealand have a Neighbousr/ Home and away equivalent?

    oh yes

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 09:26

    Many people are expecting white smoke today with the signature of the new Concorde Agreement, which will being stability to Formula 1 after months of wrangling.

    White smoke... took me a while to get that metaphor.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:26

    oh yes

    Boo for being set in a hospital.

    Millions of Bonus points for having a Bar called 'The IV'

    ...Now that is brilliant! :D

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:26

    A birthday is such an arbitrary thing.

    We had cake the other day because fourstars wife made some and had some extra. Although I do not understand this concept of extra - I think she was justifiably very pleased with it and he might have wanted to show off a little bit - which is a perfectly lovely thing to do.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 09:27

    Boo for being set in a hospital.

    when I got my job in the hospital I was most disappointed to learn they're not like they are on TV ;)

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 09:27

    White smoke... took me a while to get that metaphor.

    That said, at least progress is being made. The teams are confident enough about it to concentrate on the silly season...

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:28

    White smoke... took me a while to get that metaphor.

    Dieter Rencken in Autosport is saying that the teams have put a $300m price on Max's head. They will reduce their claim of 60% of the revenue down to 50% if CVC can arrange for Max to quit.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:28

    We had cake the other day because fourstars wife made some and had some extra. Although I do not understand this concept of extra - I think she was justifiably very pleased with it and he might have wanted to show off a little bit - which is a perfectly lovely thing to do.

    You are missing out vital details of this story. What kind of cake?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:28

    when I got my job in the hospital I was most disappointed to learn they're not like they are on TV ;)

    All Jobs should be like they are on TV :D

    But i dont think i could work in a hospital, even if it was a tv job!

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:29

    when I got my job in the hospital I was most disappointed to learn they're not like they are on TV ;)

    I am still disappointed to know that nurses don't watch/like Casualty.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:29

    what I hate at my office is when the loud ITS MY BIRTHDAY people have birthdays they take a hat around and expect you to put money in for them and whisper about how cheap you are behind your back if you dont, yet there is people like me who dont make a big deal about our birthdays so people don't know they're happening, so no one does anything for it. I think its something they should do for everyone or no one.

    Take a hat round? Wow we don't have that convention at all. On your birthday here you are expected to buy the cakes or get the round in on your birthday.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:29

    Dieter Rencken in Autosport is saying that the teams have put a $300m price on Max's head. They will reduce their claim of 60% of the revenue down to 50% if CVC can arrange for Max to quit.

    Thats strange... i thought they had a plan to leave f1 and become GP1 if he didn't leave the FIA?

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:30

    You are missing out vital details of this story. What kind of cake?

    Bannana cake.

    I have just been told the magical words, "there's more to come - we just suddenly got a big bag of banannas" yum :)

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 09:30

    Take a hat round? Wow we don't have that convention at all. On your birthday here you are expected to buy the cakes or get the round in on your birthday.

    It's a very NZ/Aus thing I think. Everyone puts in a couple of dollars and then someone gets put in charge of the money and buying them a present. I hate to think of the money I have felt obliged to pay over the years for people I don't even like.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:31

    I am still disappointed to know that nurses don't watch/like Casualty.

    A doctor I know likes House but none of the others.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:31

    I have just been told the magical words, "there's more to come - we just suddenly got a big bag of banannas" yum :)

    Ooooh. How does one 'suddenly' acquire bananas? I am intrigued.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:31

    Take a hat round? Wow we don't have that convention at all. On your birthday here you are expected to buy the cakes or get the round in on your birthday.

    When it was my birthday on saturday... i bought everyone a round to say thank you for coming. I think it confused a lot of people.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:31

    A doctor I know likes House but none of the others.

    Does Dr Giggles like any of them?

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:32

    Thats strange... i thought they had a plan to leave f1 and become GP1 if he didn't leave the FIA?

    That is what they will do if CVC can't do it.

  • me15/07/2009 at 09:32

    A doctor I know likes House but none of the others.

    you know you're not really a doctor, right?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 09:32

    Dieter Rencken in Autosport is saying that the teams have put a $300m price on Max's head. They will reduce their claim of 60% of the revenue down to 50% if CVC can arrange for Max to quit.

    Wow. They're willing to give up that much money just to get rid of Max?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:33

    A doctor I know likes House but none of the others.

    One of My doctor friends loves scrubs.

    In fact i think he may be the most tv character like person i know.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:33

    Does Dr Giggles like any of them?

    I like House but none of the others maybe I am an actual doctor :)

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:33

    you know you're not really a doctor, right?

    oh :(

    ;)

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:33

    One of My doctor friends loves scrubs.

    I don't think that really counts!

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 09:35

    oh :(

    I kept advising people I'd worked at the hospital for 5 years so it couldn't be too much longer until I'd be allowed to operate. Then I was told it doesn't work that way. I used knifes, they use scalpels, I don't see too much of a difference.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:36

    I don't think that really counts!

    The tv show, not the clothing.

    Well the clothing too... but only because it make him look 'dramatic'

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:37

    The tv show, not the clothing.

    For some reason i keep forgetting to do simleys in my haste to post

    here is a compensatory one! :D

    :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 09:37

    Does New Zealand have a Neighbousr/ Home and away equivalent?

    Stop right there!

  • me15/07/2009 at 09:38

    Well the clothing too... but only because it make him look 'dramatic'

    does his jacket swoosh when he turns?

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:38

    Ooooh. How does one 'suddenly' acquire bananas? I am intrigued.

    Well fourstar's parents took fourstar's children to the zoo and on the way back fourstar's eldest needed to go to the loo and so they stopped off at Asda. And fourstar's parents while they were waiting couldn't turn down a bargain like 20 bananas for a pound so they bought 40 took 20 home and left 20 with fourstar.

    You did ask ;)

  • me15/07/2009 at 09:38

    Stop right there!

    before you go any further?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:39

    does his jacket swoosh when he turns?

    :D

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:39

    You did ask ;)

    When that story started, I felt sure it would have to do with monkeys or something.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:39

    Stop right there!

    It has a bar called 'the IV though! :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:40

    does his jacket swoosh when he turns?

    IIts lost on me...

    :d

    But i havent seen him wearing a jacket!

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 09:41

    When that story started, I felt sure it would have to do with monkeys or something.

    That would have been a better story :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 09:44

    Stop right there!

    before you go any further?

    It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!

    See, it's cursed!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 09:47

    OK, this video has naughty words in it but it's a Lego Star Wars re-enactment of the Eddie Izzard Death Star Canteen sketch, it's so funny I have tears in my eyes.

    BTW currently residing on my monitor are some of the Star Wars Lego figurines including Lord Sir Darth Vader man!

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:48

    Dear Mr C,

    I see that you directed Andy to tweet me about these: http://bit.ly/cuddlypanda

    Next time, it would be nicer for you to just buy me the cuddly panda. It would save you a couple of packs of Milkybar Buttons.

    Kind Regards

    Mrs C

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 09:48

    Thanks for the quiz link, it's broken though, should be http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/chat.php ;-)

    Quiz will be starting at the slightly earlier time of 8pm (British Summer Time)

    Any requests for rounds since I seem to have a lack of questions at the precise moment in time?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 09:48

    Any requests for rounds since I seem to have a lack of questions at the precise moment in time?

    Michael Schumacher questions! :D

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:48

    Thanks for the quiz link, it's broken though, should be http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/chat.php ;-)

    Oops will fix now.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 09:49

    Next time, it would be nicer for you to just buy me the cuddly panda. It would save you a couple of packs of Milkybar Buttons.

    :D

  • Rachel15/07/2009 at 09:49

    Morning. :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:50

    Any requests for rounds since I seem to have a lack of questions at the precise moment in time?

    The 'what' does Nick think about F1 round?

    :D

    the 'reasons why Schumacher is a cheat round?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:51

    Morning. :)

    Good morning... you having an exciting day?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 09:51

    Any requests for rounds since I seem to have a lack of questions at the precise moment in time?

    The "really quite so easy that even Mrs C can answer them" round?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 09:51

    The "really quite so easy that even Mrs C can answer them" round?

    I second that. ;)

  • me15/07/2009 at 09:52

    Dear Mr C,

    I see that you directed Andy to tweet me about these: http://bit.ly/cuddlypanda

    Next time, it would be nicer for you to just buy me the cuddly panda. It would save you a couple of packs of Milkybar Buttons.

    Kind Regards
    Mrs C

    noted.

  • Rachel15/07/2009 at 09:52

    Good morning... you having an exciting day?

    not particularly, yourself?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 09:54

    not particularly, yourself?

    So far i have put clothes on to dry instead of washing them... But there is hope for later :D

  • me15/07/2009 at 10:01

    So far i have put clothes on to dry instead of washing them... But there is hope for later :D

    have you not read the guide to laundry?

  • Rachel15/07/2009 at 10:03

    So far i have put clothes on to dry instead of washing them... But there is hope for later :D

    these modern laundry devices and their confusing settings ;)

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:06

    question: if I got someone who is a Black Books fan the Little Book of Calm for their birthday, would they get the reference?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 10:11

    question: if I got someone who is a Black Books fan the Little Book of Calm for their birthday, would they get the reference?

    Have never seen it. I guess it depends how big a fan they are and how obvious the reference is?

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:12

    Have never seen it. I guess it depends how big a fan they are and how obvious the reference is?

    I don't think they're a big fan, but they are a recent fan, as in they only watched their first episode two weeks ago but two days later they had watched all three seasons. I am hoping this recentness will work.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 10:13

    I don't think they're a big fan, but they are a recent fan, as in they only watched their first episode two weeks ago but two days later they had watched all three seasons. I am hoping this recentness will work.

    That sounds like a big fan to me! :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:14

    these modern laundry devices and their confusing settings ;)

    have you not read the guide to laundry?

    The problem is i just chucked it in and turned it on without thinking.

    Someone should build a washing machine for people who like to do this :D

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:14

    That sounds like a big fan to me! :)

    hooray. Next step, finding this stupid little book in a bookshop.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:17

    hooray. Next step, finding this stupid little book in a bookshop.

    You guys need amazon!

    Going to Aus gives me withdrawl!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:17

    From AUTOSPORT: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76980

    FIA president Max Mosley has confirmed that he will definitely not stand again in October's election, AUTOSPORT has learned, and has endorsed Jean Todt as his preferred candidate

    No surprise there, then. The ultimate good news-bad news scenario, I think.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:18

    No surprise there, then. The ultimate good news-bad news scenario, I think.

    Yeah... The one man who could be worse than max!

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:18

    Going to Aus gives me withdrawl!

    I still buy almost everything I own off UK + USA online shopping sites, Amazon is a favourite. But the shipping...oh it kills.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:19

    Yeah... The one man who could be worse than max!

    So it's Vatanen v. Todt for the Presidency. I know who I'm supporting.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:20

    So it's Vatanen v. Todt for the Presidency. I know who I'm supporting.

    Come on you cant support Todt! :P

  • F1Wolf15/07/2009 at 10:20

    So it's Vatanen v. Todt for the Presidency. I know who I'm supporting.

    so tell us, or is a secret ?

  • Rachel15/07/2009 at 10:20

    Someone should build a washing machine for people who like to do this :D

    someone should invent a washing machine that can analyse your clothes - fabric, colour, etc - and choose its own setting accordingly.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:22

    someone should invent a washing machine that can analyse your clothes - fabric, colour, etc - and choose its own setting accordingly.

    didn't Fisher & Paykel already do something like that?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:23

    someone should invent a washing machine that can analyse your clothes - fabric, colour, etc - and choose its own setting accordingly.

    didn't Fisher & Paykel already do something like that?

    Yes, probably very smugly and arrogantly no doubt!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:23

    didn't Fisher & Paykel already do something like that?

    You know a scary amount about washing machines!

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:24

    Yes, probably very smugly and arrogantly no doubt!

    my dad refuses to buy their products haha

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:24

    You know a scary amount about washing machines!

    all I know is I have never once separated my whites/colours/delicates and I've never had a washing disaster. I do wash my towels separately though, don't want to get fluff on everything :D

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:25

    Come on you cant support Todt! :P

    Not in a million years, I wouldn't. Vatanen all the way!

  • Rachel15/07/2009 at 10:25

    From AUTOSPORT:

    The letter (pdf) itself is on the FIA website

    Definite confirmation that he's leaving, some moaning about the re-drafting of the Concorde agreement - but with assurance it will be signed - and a glowing endorsement for Todt.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:26

    Any requests for rounds since I seem to have a lack of questions at the precise moment in time?

    Michael Schumacher questions! :D

    (1) How many times has Michael Schumacher collided with a rival to affect the outcome of the championship?

    (2) How many times has Michael Schumacher used his influence within the team to affect team orders to his benefit?

    (3) How many times has he brought the sport into disrepute and angered the fans?

    (4) How many seasons did he make F1 so boring, that for those on a time-delay asked their wives to check the result so as not to bother watching if he won?

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:26

    Not in a million years, I wouldn't. Vatanen all the way!

    How can you like Schumacher and not Todt? I thought they were a package deal :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:26

    Yes, probably very smugly and arrogantly no doubt!

    my dad refuses to buy their products haha

    Then your Dad is a sensible and well-reasoned man!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:27

    Come on you cant support Todt! :P

    Not in a million years, I wouldn't. Vatanen all the way!

    Schumacher and Todt were the axis of evil!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:29

    Schumacher and Todt were the axis of evil!

    Schumacher was never evil. Flawed, maybe. Evil, no.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:29

    Official letter from Max:

    http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/f1releases/2009/Documents/mm_letter_150709.pdf

    Even Michelle Yeoh gets a mention!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:30

    This is ridiculus... the letter goes straight into f1 as if its the FIA's main function.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:30

    How can you like Schumacher and not Todt? I thought they were a package deal :D

    I USED to like Todt. But remember, even Schumacher is siding with FOTA on this one... ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:31

    Schumacher and Todt were the axis of evil!

    Schumacher was never evil. Flawed, maybe. Evil, no.

    Have you read James Allen's excellent book? It's an eye-opener, that's for sure!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:31

    Have you read James Allen's excellent book? It's an eye-opener, that's for sure!

    I have it in my bookshelf. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:32

    Have you read James Allen's excellent book? It's an eye-opener, that's for sure!

    I have it in my bookshelf. :)

    But have you read it?

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:32

    I have it in my bookshelf. :)

    So do I, but I can't remember a word of it. Maybe its time for a re-read.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:33

    Schumacher was never evil. Flawed, maybe. Evil, no.

    Unworthy world champion

    Anyhow State of origin 3 is on at the moment, and its amazing! I highly recommend it! http://bigpondtv.com/nrlliveuk

  • me15/07/2009 at 10:33

    (4) How many seasons did he make F1 so boring, that for those on a time-delay asked their wives to check the result so as not to bother watching if he won?

    can i add to that. those not on a time delay waited for the results before deciding whether to watch the highlights?

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:34

    Anyhow State of origin 3 is on at the moment, and its amazing! I highly recommend it! http://bigpondtv.com/nrlliveuk

    I am watching Spicks and Specks :D

  • Rachel15/07/2009 at 10:35

    This is ridiculus... the letter goes straight into f1 as if its the FIA's main function.

    It isn't? ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:36

    (4) How many seasons did he make F1 so boring, that for those on a time-delay asked their wives to check the result so as not to bother watching if he won?

    can i add to that. those not on a time delay waited for the results before deciding whether to watch the highlights?

    You did the same? Unbelievable that I would do that, but that's how bad it got. I missed most of 2004 because of this :(

    Compare with MotoGP and Rossi, there is a good way to dominate the sport, be nice about it and entertain the fans at the same time.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:36

    I am watching Spicks and Specks :D

    You can have a 30 min exemption as that show is pretty good ;)

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 10:37

    You can have a 30 min exemption as that show is pretty good ;)

    I always forget its on. It does make me want to pull out my Bee Gees DVD though. Yes, I have a Bee Gees DVD. I'm awesome.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:38

    But have you read it?

    Yup.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:39

    can i add to that. those not on a time delay waited for the results before deciding whether to watch the highlights?

    being a schumacher fan, i guess i never experienced that. i LIKED watching when he won - i never found it boring. but i do understand why many people would find it boring.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:41

    being a schumacher fan, i guess i never experienced that. i LIKED watching when he won - i never found it boring. but i do understand why many people would find it boring.

    I didnt really wath f1 when he was dominating, but I did enjoy seeing him loose... he took it so personally!

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 10:42

    the ‘reasons why Schumacher is a cheat round?

    Haven't got time to cover ALL of that

    (2) How many times has Michael Schumacher used his influence within the team to affect team orders to his benefit?

    That might make a good tie breaker, any one have Schumi's twitter so I can get the answer?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:42

    But have you read it?

    Yup.

    And you weren't shocked at how cold and ruthless he is? How little he cared for the sport and it's history and heritage. He knew exactly what was going on and went along with it too...

    I cannot see how you can take enjoyment from his winning - he almost ruined the sport and it's even worse now he's become "Schumacher the comedian" and "Schumacher the apologist".

    Did you see the way he apologised to Coulthard? Yeurgh! Read the James Allen book again - what a two faced sonofa...

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 10:43

    howdy all. how are we all?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:44

    howdy all. how are we all?

    Very good sir. Sleep well?

  • Scott in Italy15/07/2009 at 10:45

    just came by to show this mark webber fountain picture. bye again :)

    http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200907/r398142_1866143.jpg

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 10:46

    Official letter from Max:

    "This absolutely unprecedented level of support is very rewarding..."

    You mean Max managed to become president with less than 100 members supporting him???

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 10:46

    Very good sir. Sleep well?

    i've been up for a while, just been to the primary school i went to, helping out with a concert tomorrow, today was the dress rehersal....however, sleep? not so much. After days of 10 hours sleep, my body rejects the idea of less, and so after 6 hours last night im a bit worse for wear, but still alive!

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 10:46

    just came by to show this mark webber fountain picture. bye again :)

    http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200907/r398142_1866143.jpg

    pour it in hte ear, comes out the mouth. amazing.

    see ya

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:47

    Very good sir. Sleep well?

    i've been up for a while, just been to the primary school i went to, helping out with a concert tomorrow, today was the dress rehersal....however, sleep? not so much. After days of 10 hours sleep, my body rejects the idea of less, and so after 6 hours last night im a bit worse for wear, but still alive!

    I have to sleep on the couch at the moment as I have a cold and it's the only way I can sleep with a raised head!

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 10:47

    I have to sleep on the couch at the moment as I have a cold and it's the only way I can sleep with a raised head!

    Aww man, i hate colds, they are grim, especially the never ending ones. Hope you get better soon

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:49

    I have to sleep on the couch at the moment as I have a cold and it's the only way I can sleep with a raised head!

    Aww man, i hate colds, they are grim, especially the never ending ones. Hope you get better soon

    Thanks man. I think it's the Viking Beserker strain - started as a sore throat, then became a head cold and is finishing off as a cough and a runny nose!

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 10:49

    Thanks man. I think it's the Viking Beserker strain - started as a sore throat, then became a head cold and is finishing off as a cough and a runny nose!

    Just buy uber amounts of loo roll and you'll be fine!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:51

    Most amazing try in the history of rugby was almost scored in state of origin.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:51

    And you weren't shocked at how cold and ruthless he is? How little he cared for the sport and it's history and heritage. He knew exactly what was going on and went along with it too...

    No - because he admitted as much - at least initially. Remember Monza 2000, the way he just broke down out of nowhere? It shows that he did care about the sport - at least to some degree.

    I cannot see how you can take enjoyment from his winning - he almost ruined the sport and it's even worse now he's become "Schumacher the comedian" and "Schumacher the apologist".

    You could argue that he damaged it, yes, with his antics at Jerez and Monaco. But did he really come that close to ruining it? I guess you could take their use of team orders as an example, but their only fault was that they used it too blatantly. Team orders in itself isn't wrong.

    Did you see the way he apologised to Coulthard? Yeurgh! Read the James Allen book again - what a two faced sonofa...

    If you're referring to Spa 1998, yup, it did show a flaw of his - finding it difficult to apologize. But then, is that Schumacher thinking it was his fault and refusing to admit it, or was it Schumacher genuinely mistakenly thinking that it wasn't his fault?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:52

    You mean Max managed to become president with less than 100 members supporting him???

    How many member clubs are there, anyway?

    Besides, it could be that he has lost some support now compared to before, and that he was voted through by more than that last time.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:54

    How many member clubs are there, anyway?

    221

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 10:54

    How many member clubs are there, anyway?

    222, I find 100 hard to believe personally

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 10:54

    221

    Has someone quit that I didn't count?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 10:55

    Has someone quit that I didn't count?

    I got it from here

    http://www.fia.com/en-GB/the-fia/about-fia/Pages/AboutFIA.aspx

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 10:55

    No - because he admitted as much - at least initially. Remember Monza 2000, the way he just broke down out of nowhere? It shows that he did care about the sport - at least to some degree.

    He broke down because he was under pressure from the team as the championship was slipping away until that point. The Senna thing was the straw that broke the Schummel's back.

    You could argue that he damaged it, yes, with his antics at Jerez and Monaco. But did he really come that close to ruining it? I guess you could take their use of team orders as an example, but their only fault was that they used it too blatantly. Team orders in itself isn't wrong.

    Team orders are OK, but Austria 2002 and the second driver being told to be a helper monkey isnt.

    If you're referring to Spa 1998, yup, it did show a flaw of his - finding it difficult to apologize. But then, is that Schumacher thinking it was his fault and refusing to admit it, or was it Schumacher genuinely mistakenly thinking that it wasn't his fault?

    No, according to the book it's his cold ruthless side refusing to give an inch ever, even when you are wrong. It's no use apologising 11 years later.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 10:59

    Team orders are OK, but Austria 2002 and the second driver being told to be a helper monkey isnt.

    Which I do agree with - they shouldn't have been that blatant with the use of team orders.

    No, according to the book it's his cold ruthless side refusing to give an inch ever, even when you are wrong. It's no use apologising 11 years later.

    Better late than never, they say. As I said, it is a flaw, but for some reason, the pros have outweighed the cons for me when it comes to Michael Schumacher. I guess that's why I'm a fan of his.

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 10:59

    Official letter from Max:

    I think he would be the ideal person to continue but also to extend the work of the past 16 years

    Well don't ruin Todt's campaign before it's started, Max

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 10:59

    question: if I got someone who is a Black Books fan the Little Book of Calm for their birthday, would they get the reference?

    I would :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:00

    I think the fact that he was allowed to win 1 championship, let alone seven shows how weak the fia have been.

    Although people have done things has bad as him in the past so maybe I am too harsh.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:01

    Better late than never, they say. As I said, it is a flaw, but for some reason, the pros have outweighed the cons for me when it comes to Michael Schumacher. I guess that's why I'm a fan of his.

    Fair enough. But however much I try, I can't get over the flaws and I can't forgive him for making the sport almost unwatchable when he dominated and how he always tested the rulemakers and fans with his antics.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 11:02

    I would :)

    "Remain on the lookout for things that make you laugh, and if you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it. Then laugh."

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:03

    question: if I got someone who is a Black Books fan the Little Book of Calm for their birthday, would they get the reference?

    I would :)

    Same here!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:04

    I think the fact that he was allowed to win 1 championship, let alone seven shows how weak the fia have been.

    What should the FIA have done, then?

    Also, even if one assumes that he didn't deserve his 1994 and 2003 titles (for various reasons), why wouldn't have he been a deserving champion in the other 5 years?

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 11:05

    "Remain on the lookout for things that make you laugh, and if you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it. Then laugh."

    :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:05

    I think the fact that he was allowed to win 1 championship, let alone seven shows how weak the fia have been.

    What should the FIA have done, then?

    Also, even if one assumes that he didn't deserve his 1994 and 2003 titles (for various reasons), why wouldn't have he been a deserving champion in the other 5 years?

    It just shows the depth of dislike for the man through all levels of the sport.

    Here's a fun question: why do you like him so much? What makes you want to defend him so passionately like you do?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:05

    "Remain on the lookout for things that make you laugh, and if you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it. Then laugh."

    :)

    Good advice!

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:07

    Here's a fun question: why do you like him so much? What makes you want to defend him so passionately like you do?

    You can ask that of any fan who supports a driver, I support Alonso and I defend him, Hamilton fans defend him etc. Its just natural I guess to defend the driver you support.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:08

    Here's a fun question: why do you like him so much? What makes you want to defend him so passionately like you do?

    You can ask that of any fan who supports a driver, I support Alonso and I defend him, Hamilton fans defend him etc. Its just natural I guess to defend the driver you support.

    Yes but with Alonso and Hamilton, I can see very good reasons for liking them. With Schumi I can't!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:11

    Here's a fun question: why do you like him so much? What makes you want to defend him so passionately like you do?

    Why? A bit hard to explain with logic, to be honest. More of an emotional thing - the first F1 races I ever saw were all Schumacher wins.

    Why do I defend him so passionately? Beyond the fact that I'm a fan, I guess it's because while he does have some glaring flaws, he also had this unbelievable determination. He made Ferrari champions again with a LOT of hard work. Yes, he brought over Brawn and Byrne, but it was Schumacher who got them to move to Maranello. Also, the way he fought back after breaking his leg was astounding.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:11

    Also, even if one assumes that he didn't deserve his 1994 and 2003 titles (for various reasons), why wouldn't have he been a deserving champion in the other 5 years?

    If he didnt win 1994, he conceivably wouldn't have won the others.

    The penalty he got in 97 was a joke, and made a mockery of what happened in 94

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:11

    You can ask that of any fan who supports a driver, I support Alonso and I defend him, Hamilton fans defend him etc. Its just natural I guess to defend the driver you support.

    Agreed. :)

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:12

    If he didnt win 1994, he conceivably wouldn't have won the others.

    I don't necessarily agree with that - he was determined to win the title, and he had the ability and team to do it. It was always a question of when rather than if.

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:13

    Yes but with Alonso and Hamilton, I can see very good reasons for liking them. With Schumi I can't!

    Alonso could purposely drive into Hamilton and I will still support and defend the guy. The point is no matter what they do you support them through it all.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:14

    Mark Webber forum is a very funny place!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:14

    The penalty he got in 97 was a joke, and made a mockery of what happened in 94

    But then Senna didn't get penalized for what he did in 90 - in fact, he became champion that year.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:15

    Alonso could purposely drive into Hamilton and I will still support and defend the guy. The point is no matter what they do you support them through it all.

    Alonso wouldn't do that though... he is more evil than that.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:16

    Alonso wouldn't do that though... he is more evil than that.

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:16

    Why do I defend him so passionately? Beyond the fact that I'm a fan, I guess it's because while he does have some glaring flaws, he also had this unbelievable determination. He made Ferrari champions again with a LOT of hard work. Yes, he brought over Brawn and Byrne, but it was Schumacher who got them to move to Maranello. Also, the way he fought back after breaking his leg was astounding.

    I will agree with you that he was largely responsible for bringing the personnel to Ferrari, but the guys he brought over are responsible for making the team what it is now - Ross Brawn in particular. TBH Schumi and Todt very nearly destroyed all of that and I still have a problem supporting Ferrari - which is troubling considering I have Italians in my family!

    From the book, he was reluctant to return after breaking the leg and was pressured into coming back so quickly. But it did make him stronger and more focused and I agree that it prolonged his career. Any comeback after a bad injury always deserves credit, though!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:16

    But then Senna didn't get penalized for what he did in 90 - in fact, he became champion that year.

    Thats not the point. 97 effectively said we are him penalising because he didnt get away with it, if he had then he would have been champion that year.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:18

    The penalty he got in 97 was a joke, and made a mockery of what happened in 94

    But then Senna didn't get penalized for what he did in 90 - in fact, he became champion that year.

    That was because Balestre tried to fix it for Prost to win so Senna did the right thing and took him out. I don't agree with the dangerous way he did it but if Prost had won it wouldn't have been proper. IIRC Senna got a suspended ban for that didn't he?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:18

    Thats not the point. 97 effectively said we are penalising him because he didnt get away with it, if he had then he would have been champion that year.

    they penalised him because everyone pressured the FIA to do so, not because he didn't get away with it.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:18

    Alonso could purposely drive into Hamilton and I will still support and defend the guy. The point is no matter what they do you support them through it all.

    I should add i dont understand this.

    It seems to me that its a bit like football. Whoever pays the multi-millionaire the most money, the most consistently is the biggest and bestest fan.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:19

    That was because Balestre tried to fix it for Prost to win so Senna did the right thing and took him out. I don't agree with the dangerous way he did it but if Prost had won it wouldn't have been proper. IIRC Senna got a suspended ban for that didn't he?

    Yup - but that's an even lighter penalty than what Schumi got in 97. A suspended ban means nothing if you're not a repeat offender.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:20

    they penalised him because everyone pressured the FIA to do so, not because he didn't get away with it.

    The penalty was also a joke.

    But we will have to agree to disagree as to its reasons

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:20

    Thats not the point. 97 effectively said we are penalising him because he didnt get away with it, if he had then he would have been champion that year.

    they penalised him because everyone pressured the FIA to do so, not because he didn't get away with it.

    And it's a good job they did pressurise the FIA because it was wrong. He got away clean with 94 and to do it again was just poor.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:22

    And it's a good job they did pressurise the FIA because it was wrong. He got away clean with 94 and to do it again was just poor.

    i would agree with david hobbs' assessment of 1994 - the adelaide incident is overrated in that schumi didn't do it on purpose - it was a driver error.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:23

    Look who has a Twitter account:

    http://twitter.com/AriVatanen

    A shame he doesn't update it, though.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:25

    i would agree with david hobbs' assessment of 1994 - the adelaide incident is overrated in that schumi didn't do it on purpose - it was a driver error.

    Maybe you could argue that if the rest of his career was clean, but he did it so many times it was clearly deliberate!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:25

    I'm having trouble loading the PF page. Noooo... :(

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:27

    Maybe you could argue that if the rest of his career was clean, but he did it so many times it was clearly deliberate!

    i suspect it was accidental, then he realized what he'd gotten away it, so it became deliberate later.

    but really, while he was an aggressive blocker, he only intentionally tried to take out a car once - and he failed to do it.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:27

    i suspect it was accidental, then he realized what he'd gotten away it, so it became deliberate later.

    *gotten away with

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 11:27

    I'm having trouble loading the PF page. Noooo... :(

    Which one?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:28

    i suspect it was accidental, then he realized what he'd gotten away it, so it became deliberate later.

    Ok... we will have to agree to disagree again! :P

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:28

    Which one?

    Blog is slow, chat is slower. :(

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:28

    but really, while he was an aggressive blocker, he only intentionally tried to take out a car once - and he failed to do it.

    we must be talking about a different man.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:28

    Ok... we will have to agree to disagree again! :P

    Don't worry, Mr C does that a lot with me on this topic. ;)

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:29

    Ok... we will have to agree to disagree again! :P

    Don't worry, Mr C does that a lot with me on this topic. ;)

    :D

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:29

    we must be talking about a different man.

    Ah, Mr C, I had just mentioned you.

    Other than Adelaide 1994 (which I am contending) and Jerez 1997 (which I agree with), were there other times he tried taking out other cars?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:30

    You MUST be joking. Cmon, F1, I want my HD!

    WRC in HD in America

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:31

    You MUST be joking. Cmon, F1, I want my HD!

    They have 1 camera!

    Its very pretty!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:32

    Its very pretty!

    :D

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:32

    If there is one thing I dislike more than Max it's screen protectors for the iTouch :D

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:32

    Other than Adelaide 1994 (which I am contending) and Jerez 1997 (which I agree with), were there other times he tried taking out other cars?

    - every time he started from pole and tried to run the second place guy off the road

    - when he drove alonso clean off the track and then some in hungary (forget the year)

    - when he drover montoya clean off the track at the other italian track (forget the name and the year)

    there are hundreds (yes hundreds), of examples where he risked killing another driver on track.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:33

    i suspect it was accidental, then he realized what he'd gotten away it, so it became deliberate later.

    Ok... we will have to agree to disagree again! :P

    I'm with you Nick - he left an open hole for Hill to go for and then jerked the wheel hard to the right. Now that wasn't accidental, you're not telling me he was this super quick super smart driver and he didn't know what would happen as a result?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:34

    there are hundreds (yes hundreds), of examples where he risked killing another driver on track.

    Didnt he even try to ram ralph at somepoint?

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:34

    Didnt he even try to ram ralph at somepoint?

    he did.

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:34

    Didnt he even try to ram ralph at somepoint?

    he did.

    although i might cut him some slack for that. if he was my brother...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:35

    Other than Adelaide 1994 (which I am contending) and Jerez 1997 (which I agree with), were there other times he tried taking out other cars?

    - every time he started from pole and tried to run the second place guy off the road

    - when he drove alonso clean off the track and then some in hungary (forget the year)

    - when he drover montoya clean off the track at the other italian track (forget the name and the year)

    there are hundreds (yes hundreds), of examples where he risked killing another driver on track.

    Great Britain 1995: Hill caught Schummel Schumi and was much faster, so Schumi left a gap into Luffield and then just went across him. You could never pass him because he would always take you out!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:36

    I'm with you Nick - he left an open hole for Hill to go for and then jerked the wheel hard to the right. Now that wasn't accidental, you're not telling me he was this super quick super smart driver and he didn't know what would happen as a result?

    In Schumi's defense, he was on the racing line. I think the error lies in that Schumi should've seen Hill, but he didn't. I could be wrong with how I saw the incident, but that's how I saw it.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:37

    Great Britain 1995: Hill caught Schummel Schumi and was much faster, so Schumi left a gap into Luffield and then just went across him. You could never pass him because he would always take you out!

    That I would disagree with - Hill came from way too far back in that incident.

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:37

    Great Britain 1995: Hill caught Schummel Schumi and was much faster, so Schumi left a gap into Luffield and then just went across him. You could never pass him because he would always take you out!

    he was a dirty, nasty, filthy person when the visor closed, and he wasn't much nicer off track.

    however, he seems more friendly now.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:37

    Perhaps there should be a tv mini series on 'the great crimes of schumacher'

    Because the collisions are just the start!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:38

    In Schumi's defense, he was on the racing line. I think the error lies in that Schumi should've seen Hill, but he didn't. I could be wrong with how I saw the incident, but that's how I saw it.

    The racing line!

    What racing line! He was off the track!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:38

    however, he seems more friendly now.

    retirement does it to everybody, I think. will it do that to max?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:39

    What racing line! He was off the track!

    The collision happened after Schumacher came back onto the track. Schumacher went off at Turn X; the collision happened at Turn X + 1.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:39

    retirement does it to everybody, I think. will it do that to max?

    '

    He isnt retiring though, he is regenerating!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:39

    Macau 1989 or 1990: Hakkinen goes to pass Schumi for the win, Schumi moves over and rams Hakkinen into the wall at speed. He denied doing it on purpose, then admitted it a few years later.

    France 2000 or 2001: Coulthard passes him at the hairpin only to be forced off at the exit so Schummel Schumi regained the position. Sure enough, Coulthard passes him properly later on and 'thanks' him ;)

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:39

    retirement does it to everybody, I think. will it do that to max?

    no. he's too old to change.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:39

    he was a dirty, nasty, filthy person when the visor closed, and he wasn't much nicer off track. however, he seems more friendly now.

    That makes it worse for me :(

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:39

    He isnt retiring though, he is regenerating!

    ...regenerating? Into what?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:40

    ...regenerating? Into what?

    He takes the power, renames the job

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:41

    He takes the power, renames the job

    Assuming Todt wins.

    That won't happen if Ari wins, I think. But we may see a power struggle.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:41

    Great Britain 1995: Hill caught Schummel Schumi and was much faster, so Schumi left a gap into Luffield and then just went across him. You could never pass him because he would always take you out!

    That I would disagree with - Hill came from way too far back in that incident.

    No, Hill could have passed him. The reason he came from so far back was because he had to try and surprise Schummel as he knew what would happen.

    In Schumi's defense, he was on the racing line. I think the error lies in that Schumi should've seen Hill, but he didn't. I could be wrong with how I saw the incident, but that's how I saw it.

    Poppycock!

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:43

    That makes it worse for me :(

    i dunno. am just glad he's gone really.

    it's only racing, in the end it makes no difference to very much. his records are there and some will consider them tainted and some won't.

    he drove f1wolf around a track and that's pretty cool. i have a short memory at the best of times and that's my most recent one ;)

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:43

    No, Hill could have passed him. The reason he came from so far back was because he had to try and surprise Schummel as he knew what would happen.

    Hmmm. Will have to agree to disagree on that one.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:43

    he drove f1wolf around a track and that's pretty cool. i have a short memory at the best of times and that's my most recent one ;)

    :D And he's the Stig! Well, he was for a week, anyway.

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:44

    :D And he's the Stig! Well, he was for a week, anyway.

    haven't seen it. but heard that, yeah.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:44

    That won't happen if Ari wins, I think. But we may see a power struggle.

    I think its the other way round, if it looks like Ari is going to win he will strip the role of its powers.

    If its todt, he will work though him.

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:44

    He isnt retiring though, he is regenerating!

    As long as he isn't the Master I'm not to bothered ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:44

    it's only racing, in the end it makes no difference to very much. his records are there and some will consider them tainted and some won't.

    I wouldn't say tainted, just, not as good as they look on paper.

    he drove f1wolf around a track and that's pretty cool. i have a short memory at the best of times and that's my most recent one ;)

    That was cool - and TBH I wouldn't say no to that either!

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 11:45

    :D And he's the Stig! Well, he was for a week, anyway.

    A week? Surely just long enough for an interview!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:45

    No, Hill could have passed him. The reason he came from so far back was because he had to try and surprise Schummel as he knew what would happen.

    Hmmm. Will have to agree to disagree on that one.

    Sounds fine by me ;)

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:45

    A week? Surely just long enough for an interview!

    He did drive the FXX round the Test Track. OK, maybe a day. ;)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:46

    I dont know why i don't like Schumacher and alonso.

    I normally like devious stuff.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:47

    A week? Surely just long enough for an interview!

    He did drive the FXX round the Test Track. OK, maybe a day. ;)

    Apparently everyone in Denmark believes he is the Stig...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 11:48

    Come on Journeyer. I know you are are Ferrari fan but I never considered you to be blindly biased. You cannot defend Schumacher in any incident he was involved in. No-one ever rammed him but he drove at everyone. Had Bernie not taken an interest after his first race and placed hi at Benetton he would never have been allowed to do what he did.

    He should have picked up a stack of bans for his antics but because h was box office Bernie would never let that happen. After he took Hill out in 1994 he should have been given a 3 race ban and that would have stopped him.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:49

    I normally like devious stuff.

    :D

    My relationship with Alonso is hot-and-cold. I liked him in 2005, less so in 2006 (obviously) and 2007 (because of his tantrums with the team). I've softened up to him in 2008, though (partly because of his entire Singapore weekend). And he seems to have matured a bit. That said, he hasn't been placed again in the same position as he was in 2007...

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:49

    I completely agree with Steven!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 11:49

    I wouldn't say tainted, just, not as good as they look on paper.

    He won races and titles by ramming people off thee road while driving blatantly illegal cars with the FIA favouring Ferrari. You don't think that is tainted??

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:50

    Come on Journeyer. I know you are are Ferrari fan but I never considered you to be blindly biased. You cannot defend Schumacher in any incident he was involved in. No-one ever rammed him but he drove at everyone. Had Bernie not taken an interest after his first race and placed hi at Benetton he would never have been allowed to do what he did.

    He should have picked up a stack of bans for his antics but because h was box office Bernie would never let that happen. After he took Hill out in 1994 he should have been given a 3 race ban and that would have stopped him.

    *claps* Thank you Mr. Roy!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:51

    I wouldn't say tainted, just, not as good as they look on paper.

    He won races and titles by ramming people off thee road while driving blatantly illegal cars with the FIA favouring Ferrari. You don't think that is tainted??

    Well maybe it is, I just don't have the guts to say it and accept that 7 out of the last 15 years were effectively a waste of time watching F1.

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:51

    My relationship with Alonso is hot-and-cold. I liked him in 2005, less so in 2006 (obviously) and 2007 (because of his tantrums with the team). I've softened up to him in 2008, though (partly because of his entire Singapore weekend). And he seems to have matured a bit. That said, he hasn't been placed again in the same position as he was in 2007...

    Hehe I disliked him in 2005 but liked him on 2006 ;) He's more comfortable at Renault and the team revolves round him so its easy to see why.

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:51

    Well maybe it is, I just don't have the guts to say it and accept that 7 out of the last 15 years were effectively a waste of time watching F1.

    plus the benetton years...

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:51

    He should have picked up a stack of bans for his antics but because he was box office Bernie would never let that happen. After he took Hill out in 1994 he should have been given a 3 race ban and that would have stopped him.

    I've said my piece on 1994; I do think it was an honest-to-goodness error. And I'm not the only person who said that. I'll just leave it at that.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:52

    My relationship with Alonso is hot-and-cold. I liked him in 2005, less so in 2006 (obviously) and 2007 (because of his tantrums with the team). I've softened up to him in 2008, though (partly because of his entire Singapore weekend). And he seems to have matured a bit. That said, he hasn't been placed again in the same position as he was in 2007...

    I liked him in 05-06 because he was young and anti-schumacher.

    In 07 i realised he was the heir apparent to schumacher and all the tantrums, tring to bribe people and cheating have made me unable to stand the guy.

    His opinion of himself, backed up by Flav doesn't help either.

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:52

    He won races and titles by ramming people off thee road while driving blatantly illegal cars with the FIA favouring Ferrari. You don't think that is tainted??

    Did the FIA favour Ferrari just because of Schumacher? It isn't his fault that Ferrari built cars which were illegal.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:53

    I normally like devious stuff.

    :D

    My relationship with Alonso is hot-and-cold. I liked him in 2005, less so in 2006 (obviously) and 2007 (because of his tantrums with the team). I've softened up to him in 2008, though (partly because of his entire Singapore weekend). And he seems to have matured a bit. That said, he hasn't been placed again in the same position as he was in 2007...

    I like Alonso because he slayed the dragon and saved the sport. The man is brilliant behind the wheel, he's hot-headed and he always gets into the mix. I am even prepared to accept his actions in 2007 because I think Ron messed with his head like he did with Montoya.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:54

    Did the FIA favour Ferrari just because of Schumacher? It isn't his fault that Ferrari built cars which were illegal.

    It might be a coincidence, but the cars at benneton were illegal as well.

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:54

    I like Alonso because he slayed the dragon and saved the sport. The man is brilliant behind the wheel, he's hot-headed and he always gets into the mix. I am even prepared to accept his actions in 2007 because I think Ron messed with his head like he did with Montoya.

    he's what montoya promised to be. ron almost managed to kill both careers in successive years.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:54

    Well maybe it is, I just don't have the guts to say it and accept that 7 out of the last 15 years were effectively a waste of time watching F1.

    plus the benetton years...

    Yeah I forgot those :( He really did do a lot of damage to the sport - I am sure there are lots of people who were proper f1 fans that stopped watching coz of him and still haven't come back...

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:55

    I like Alonso because he slayed the dragon and saved the sport. The man is brilliant behind the wheel, he's hot-headed and he always gets into the mix. I am even prepared to accept his actions in 2007 because I think Ron messed with his head like he did with Montoya.

    Two drivers who are fiery and they both butted heads with Ron, clearly not the type of driver Ron can manage well.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:55

    he's what montoya promised to be. ron almost managed to kill both careers in successive years.

    but why would ron hire alonso, then? surely he hired him to win races and titles?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 11:55

    I've said my piece on 1994; I do think it was an honest-to-goodness error. And I'm not the only person who said that. I'll just leave it at that.

    Name me one other time in history where someone crashed his own car then just happened to take out the only guy who could take the title from him. Do you have any idea what the odds are on that happening by accident? Given that Schumacher made a career out of using his car as weapon do you seriously believe that somehow he would not do it when his goal was in sight and the only way to achieve it was to ram another driver?

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:56

    It might be a coincidence, but the cars at benneton were illegal as well.

    But Schumacher didn't build the cars, he drove them. The blame for that isn't on him in my opinion.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:56

    I like Alonso because he slayed the dragon and saved the sport. The man is brilliant behind the wheel, he's hot-headed and he always gets into the mix. I am even prepared to accept his actions in 2007 because I think Ron messed with his head like he did with Montoya.

    he's what montoya promised to be. ron almost managed to kill both careers in successive years.

    And Ron did the same to Lauda, Prost and a few others. Shame really, I like Alonso's style and I am convinced that one day we will find out the proper story and he will come out of it better than he looks ATM.

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:56

    clearly not the type of driver Ron can manage well.

    we've had that discussion before though. what is the type of driver ron can manage well? i think we came up with one driver since the beginning of the 90's.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:56

    But Schumacher didn't build the cars, he drove them. The blame for that isn't on him in my opinion.

    Thats what they want you to believe!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:56

    Two drivers who are fiery and they both butted heads with Ron, clearly not the type of driver Ron can manage well.

    oddly enough, Senna came from the same mould, yet he got on very well with Ron.

    it's less of a personality thing than it is a sign of the times, i guess. many of the drivers ron had issues with came from this decade (or the end of the last one) - DC, Kimi, JPM, Alonso all had issues with Ron.

  • me15/07/2009 at 11:57

    but why would ron hire alonso, then? surely he hired him to win races and titles?

    ron has a very inflated opinion of his ability to manage people.

    also, he wanted to annoy flav.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:57

    It might be a coincidence, but the cars at benneton were illegal as well.

    But Schumacher didn't build the cars, he drove them. The blame for that isn't on him in my opinion.

    But he knew about it and was complicit in the cheating - how else would he have operated the illegal traction control for example?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:57

    also, he wanted to annoy flav.

    :D

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:58

    we've had that discussion before though. what is the type of driver ron can manage well? i think we came up with one driver since the beginning of the 90's.

    Any driver who did as they are told and fits into the McLaren mold were drivers Ron managed well because they didn't go against him and were better off for it.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 11:58

    And Ron did the same to Lauda, Prost and a few others. Shame really, I like Alonso's style and I am convinced that one day we will find out the proper story and he will come out of it better than he looks ATM.

    At least those two won titles with him - Prost even won 3 at McLaren.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 11:58

    I like ron.

    He has a strange idea about what a racing team's public culture should be, but building mclaren into what it is today is very impressive.

  • James15/07/2009 at 11:59

    it's less of a personality thing than it is a sign of the times, i guess. many of the drivers ron had issues with came from this decade (or the end of the last one) - DC, Kimi, JPM, Alonso all had issues with Ron.

    Clearly that means Ron's style of managment hadn't changed so drivers came to the team with different experiences and couldn't work under Ron.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 11:59

    And Ron did the same to Lauda, Prost and a few others. Shame really, I like Alonso's style and I am convinced that one day we will find out the proper story and he will come out of it better than he looks ATM.

    At least those two won titles with him - Prost even won 3 at McLaren.

    But both were compelled to leave because they felt the team didn't support them.

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:00

    But he knew about it and was complicit in the cheating - how else would he have operated the illegal traction control for example?

    He may of known about it but what can he do tell them to change it? he does that then he could very well have been looking for another drive.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:00

    And Ron did the same to Lauda, Prost and a few others. Shame really, I like Alonso's style and I am convinced that one day we will find out the proper story and he will come out of it better than he looks ATM.

    He tried to blackmail the team to slowdown his teammate and let him win all the races!

    Surely the more that comes out, the worse he will look.

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:01

    He tried to blackmail the team to slowdown his teammate and let him win all the races!

    say ron!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 12:01

    Did the FIA favour Ferrari just because of Schumacher? It isn't his fault that Ferrari built cars which were illegal.

    Bernie favoured Ferrari because that is where the money is. Bernie personally negotiated the deal to take Schumacher from Jordan to Benetton. When it wa getting down to the nitty gritty of the deal Schumacher started complaining and said he would stay at Jordan. Bernie told him to shut up and go to bed and in the morning he would be a Benetton driver. Don't be surprised if it comes out in the future that Bernie negotiated the deal to take him to Ferrari

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:01

    He has a strange idea about what a racing team's public culture should be, but building mclaren into what it is today is very impressive.

    Agreed, but in the last few years under Ron the team seemed cold in my opinion. With Montoya and Alonso being the fiery characters they are it was never going to work out.

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:02

    say ron!

    hehe :D

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:02

    Agreed, but in the last few years under Ron the team seemed cold in my opinion. With Montoya and Alonso being the fiery characters they are it was never going to work out.

    Would JPM and FA work out in the current Whitmarsh-led McLaren?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:02

    say ron!

    I dont see any reason for him to make that up that is rational.

    Alonso hasnt exactly convincingly set the record straight.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 12:02

    He tried to blackmail the team to slowdown his teammate and let him win all the races!

    Surely the more that comes out, the worse he will look.

    Who knows what the truth is - but Alonso is doing a great job keeping quiet considering how much his name got dragged through the mud because of it!

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:02

    Would JPM and FA work out in the current Whitmarsh-led McLaren?

    I think so, I've noticed a change in McLaren this year and Hamilton is starting to seem more human.

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:03

    Alonso hasnt exactly convincingly set the record straight.

    because he's not allowed too.

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:03

    Alonso hasnt exactly convincingly set the record straight.

    He can't McLaren made sure of that.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:03

    Who knows what the truth is - but Alonso is doing a great job keeping quiet considering how much his name got dragged through the mud because of it!

    That says to me that the worst is yet to come out.

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:04

    I think so, I've noticed a change in McLaren this year and Hamilton is starting to seem more human.

    would be interesting. martin was there the whole time, and it's not like he didn't have chance to intervene.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:04

    because he's not allowed too.

    Whats McLaren going to do? sue him?

    That will make the sponsors look really bad.

    If he wanted to speak out he could.

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:05

    would be interesting. martin was there the whole time, and it's not like he didn't have chance to intervene.

    Very true but Ron was in charge so Martin would have had to along with what Ron wanted.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 12:05

    Alonso hasnt exactly convincingly set the record straight.

    because he's not allowed too.

    Exactly. And that shows how strong his character is that he can carry on and not say or leak anything out. If it was me I would be aching to set the record straight and clear my name!

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:05

    Whats McLaren going to do? sue him?

    they let him out of a contract early an bought his silence.

    who knows what they can do?

    If he wanted to speak out he could.

    he's says he can't and ron says he can't.

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:06

    Exactly. And that shows how strong his character is that he can carry on and not say or leak anything out. If it was me I would be aching to set the record straight and clear my name!

    Hehe, he lets out little bits every so often.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 12:06

    But Schumacher didn't build the cars, he drove them. The blame for that isn't on him in my opinion.

    Sorry James but that is naive. Schumacher was famous for his attention to detail. Besides there is clear evidence that he used the illegal launch control that was hidden in the Benetton menu system.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 12:07

    we've had that discussion before though. what is the type of driver ron can manage well? i think we came up with one driver since the beginning of the 90's.

    Until Schumacher went to Ferrari Ron had the most successful team in history so he must be doing something right.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 12:07

    Whats McLaren going to do? sue him?

    They threatened him with some kind of exit clause that would have stopped him joining a top team. Who knows how long the NDA he signed will last?

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:07

    Sorry James but that is naive. Schumacher was famous for his attention to detail. Besides there is clear evidence that he used the illegal launch control that was hidden in the Benetton menu system.

    But at the end of the day he was just a driver, if he told the team to change he would have risked his drive.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:07

    who knows what they can do?

    The only thing they could do is take him to ourt, and he knows as well as they do they wouldn't do that unless he liabled/slandered.

    I think he has as much that he doesnt want to come out as the team do.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 12:08

    But Schumacher didn't build the cars, he drove them. The blame for that isn't on him in my opinion.

    Sorry James but that is naive. Schumacher was famous for his attention to detail. Besides there is clear evidence that he used the illegal launch control that was hidden in the Benetton menu system.

    Exactly. You can't say "Oh Schumi, he was so great he almost built the car by himself and had great attention to detail" and then say "but he didn't know the cars were illegal"...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 12:09

    who knows what they can do?

    The only thing they could do is take him to ourt, and he knows as well as they do they wouldn't do that unless he liabled/slandered.

    I think he has as much that he doesnt want to come out as the team do.

    If the NDA says so, they could take him to court and stop him driving for another team.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:09

    Until Schumacher went to Ferrari Ron had the most successful team in history so he must be doing something right.

    Well, he was doing something right. But why has he struggled to win titles since? He's only won 3 drivers titles and 1 constructors title since 1992.

    That said, he's still more successful than a lot of other teams right now.

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:09

    I think he has as much that he doesnt want to come out as the team do.

    you're clearly not listening to what the man says. it's almost exactly the opposite.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:10

    If the NDA says so, they could take him to court and stop him driving for another team.

    They wouldnt do that though.

    The sponsors would stop them, bernie would stop them.

    They would look ridiculous.

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:10

    The sponsors would stop them, bernie would stop them.

    you think bernie isn't involved?? madness. alonso is the only thing keeping spanish fans tuned in.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 12:10

    Any driver who did as they are told and fits into the McLaren mold were drivers Ron managed well because they didn't go against him and were better off for it.

    The guys who succeeded at McLaren were drivers who were interested in winning and faster than their team mate. Alonso wasn't faster than Hamilton. If he had been everyone would now be saying that McLaren is Team Alonso and Ron destroyed Lewiss's career

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:11

    you think bernie isn't involved?? madness. alonso is the only thing keeping spanish fans tuned in.

    No i just cant see any reason for alonso not to speak out unless Mclaren have more dirt on him.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:13

    Toro Rosso explains why it avoids Q3

    So, wait, they only figured this out AFTER Vettel left? ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 12:15

    Toro Rosso explains why it avoids Q3

    So, wait, they only figured this out AFTER Vettel left? ;)

    Oh that's very funny!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:16
  • James15/07/2009 at 12:16

    Toro Rosso explains why it avoids Q3

    So, wait, they only figured this out AFTER Vettel left? ;)

    9) It's a great excuse for not doing well in the race, as overtaking is impossible.

    loves it.

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 12:16

    Toro Rosso explains why it avoids Q3

    I love number 10

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:24

    Toro Rosso explains why it avoids Q3

    wow. they took sutil's qually performance really personally, didn't they?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:24

    Just got an email from TAG Heuer.

    They've just created a mobile phone.

    The MEREDIIST

    It's a beauty.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:24

    wow. they took sutil's qually performance really personally, didn't they?

    yup.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:26

    It's a beauty.

    That looks amazing...

    Bet the price is in Vertu land though

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:27

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1312703

    Any ideas as to why Rubens had his helmet on here?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:27

    Bet the price is in Vertu land though

    When the email says,

    Make a reservation. A TAG Heuer representative will call you and invite you for a private showing

    you KNOW it's expensive.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 12:28

    http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1312703

    Any ideas as to why Rubens had his helmet on here?

    Perhaps he didn't feel like any 'bla bla bla'

    Or he arrived by motorcycle?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:28

    Any ideas as to why Rubens had his helmet on here?

    maybe he rode a motorbike to the circuit?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:28

    Any ideas as to why Rubens had his helmet on here?

    Bats?

    :P

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:29

    Any ideas as to why Rubens had his helmet on here?

    the cap's lighter to carry.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:29

    Bats?

    :D

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:30

    Any ideas as to why Rubens had his helmet on here?

    Someone should tweet him about it

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 12:30

    Any ideas as to why Rubens had his helmet on here?

    worlds worst disguise?

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:31

    The answer to Piquet's twitter competition was:

    The right answer was: 3314 km!

    In case anyone was wondering :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:32

    I bet Max is annoyed Flintoff's retirement trumped his in the British media...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 12:32

    The answer to Piquet's twitter competition was:

    The right answer was: 3314 km!

    In case anyone was wondering :)

    that's not a lot of testing?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:33

    I bet Max is annoyed Flintoff's retirement trumped his in the British media...

    :D

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:34

    that's not a lot of testing?

    I know, I'd hate to compare it to the amount Alonso has done :D

  • James15/07/2009 at 12:34

    I bet Max is annoyed Flintoff's retirement trumped his in the British media...

    He's probably pulling this face

  • Rachel15/07/2009 at 12:34

    Ted News: Ted Blog :)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/2009/07/ted-kravitz-the-german-gp-from.html

    (sorry amy)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 12:35

    I bet Max is annoyed Flintoff's retirement trumped his in the British media...

    I didn't know Max had retired. I wonder how long he has retired for. I assume that so many people will ask him to unretire that he will have no choice but to comply.

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 12:36

    that's not a lot of testing?

    About half of that was in November/December in the R28!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:37

    I didn't know Max had retired. I wonder how long he has retired for. I assume that so many people will ask him to unretire that he will have no choice but to comply.

    But he already turned down those asking him to unretire...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 12:38

    "I began some months ago to rearrange my family life with effect from next October.

    What on earth does he mean by that? Surely he is not getting back together with his wife after all this time?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:39

    What on earth does he mean by that? Surely he is not getting back together with his wife after all this time?

    Maybe he is? I guess what happened to his son woke him up to what he needed to do with his family...

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:40

    PF Chat still not loading for me. :((

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:41
  • Mattw15/07/2009 at 12:42

    but why would ron hire alonso, then? surely he hired him to win races and titles?

    Because Ron didn't realise how good Lewis was going to be.

    I still maintain that if you look back to the first few races in 2007 - Alonso was getting the optimum fuel strategies, and the team were very happy for him to be the team leader.

    However when Lewis started beating him, he threw a strop, and I think that set alarm bells ringing in Ron's head - which then lead to the trouble in the second half of the year.

    Many people criticize Ron for letting Lewis and Alonso race each other. However the 2007 championship would have been really boring if it was gifted to Alonso from the start. This is supposed to be Motor Racing.

    The guys who succeeded at McLaren were drivers who were interested in winning and faster than their team mate. Alonso wasn’t faster than Hamilton. If he had been everyone would now be saying that McLaren is Team Alonso and Ron destroyed Lewiss’s career

    There is a lot of truth in that. Although perhaps that should be "Alonso wasn’t faster than Hamilton - Often enouph"

    But look at the way in which "team Prost" became "team Senna" back in the late 80's

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 12:42

    proper ted news :)

    Love the bit about Webber loving the drink... That's like the Good Old Ted News!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:42

    proper ted news :)

    Still amazed he doesn't have a proper blog. If anything, he's the most deserving man to be called the BBC F1 Mole.

  • me15/07/2009 at 12:43

    Love the bit about Webber loving the drink... That's like the Good Old Ted News!

    and the slot gap cleaners :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:43

    There is no news like ted news,

    There is no better news I know.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 12:44

    afternoon :)

    Or he arrived by motorcycle?

    yep both he and Jenson tend to use the helmet livery they aren't using for the race on their bikes. Jenson is using his black liveried helmet, and last time i saw Jessica was using his old union jack liveried one.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:45

    yep both he and Jenson tend to use the helmet livery they aren't using for the race on their bikes. Jenson is using his black liveried helmet, and last time i saw Jessica was using his old union jack liveried one.

    I think he is now using his push the button one as his spare as it has his sponsor on it

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 12:45

    But look at the way in which "team Prost" became "team Senna" back in the late 80's

    People just ignore the history. Ron always backed the best driver. Any new driver was given a fair chance to show what he could do and if like Senna he was good enough the previous favourite was dropped.

    To me Montoya's preoblems were his faut and Alonso's problems were his. Montoya for me was always over-rated by a lot of people. He was fast but being fast and being good are not the same thing.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 12:45

    and the slot gap cleaners :)

    Absolutely... It's the little details like this that make things really fun. I was telling some people earlier about the way that Jean Todt used to have the same piece of wood sewn into his race suit every week just so he could constantly touch wood throughout the weekend.

    That was a Ted News I'm pretty sure.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 12:47

    I think he is now using his push the button one as his spare as it has his sponsor on it

    i saw that too. he wont be using it for too long though i don't think. the idea of the competition was to auction off the helmet for charity like last year.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:47

    People just ignore the history. Ron always backed the best driver. Any new driver was given a fair chance to show what he could do and if like Senna he was good enough the previous favourite was dropped.

    Ron favored Kimi, but even Kimi had issues with Ron...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 12:49

    Ron favored Kimi, but even Kimi had issues with Ron...

    Kimi wanted Magnums but Ron would only allow Cornettos because they were mor aesthetically pleasing.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 12:49

    Kimi wanted Magnums but Ron would only allow Cornettos because they were more aesthetically pleasing.

    :D

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 12:50

    Ron favored Kimi, but even Kimi had issues with Ron...

    I think Kimi has issues with just about the whole of F1

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:07

    This is just plain funny.

    http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090715111857.shtml

    Its GMM from bild, but its worth a laugh

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 13:14

    This is just plain funny.

    http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090715111857.shtml

    What is it with that family and team orders?

    Oh, probably shouldn't be stirring that nest of hornets again..

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:15

    What is it with that family and team orders?

    I don't remember Ralf or Michael being so keen on team orders at Spa 1998

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:17

    #sidepodspace update

    We have go for tanking. They have started filling the fuel tank again. We have 60% chance of good weather for tonight's launch attempt.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:19

    We have go for tanking. They have started filling the fuel tank again. We have 60% chance of good weather for tonight's launch attempt.

    60% doesn't seem like a lot.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 13:19

    We have go for tanking. They have started filling the fuel tank again. We have 60% chance of good weather for tonight's launch attempt.

    If it's a no-go, they drain the tank?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:23

    60% doesn't seem like a lot.

    It's the best we have had recently. We have had one attempt at 40% but the last two attempts have been 60%. It shows what happens when the government is signing the cheques. If this was a commercial business they would never go on a 60% chance

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:23

    If it's a no-go, they drain the tank?

    Yes. They have filled it and drained it 5 times now.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 13:23

    It's the best we have had recently. We have had one attempt at 40% but the last two attempts have been 60%. It shows what happens when the government is signing the cheques. If this was a commercial business they would never go on a 60% chance

    But how often does it go higher than 60%?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:23

    Christine

    Have you e-mailed Franck yet?

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 13:23

    If it's a no-go, they drain the tank?

    Wouldn't fancy the job of siphoning that

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:24

    But how often does it go higher than 60%?

    Not sure. I think it depends on the time of year

  • lou15/07/2009 at 13:24

    Yes. They have filled it and drained it 5 times now.

    wow.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:25

    Wouldn't fancy the job of siphoning that

    I think they should just take the lid of and afte most of it has vented just burn it off

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:25

    wow.

    Half a million gallons every time.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:25

    Have you e-mailed Franck yet?

    Yes sir.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 13:26

    btw i've no idea how many people have seen this already, but if you have any shots of anything Brawn GP related, like drivers or cars or whatever you can send them to [email protected] if you would like them to appear on Brawn's new fan gallery feature that is to be launched over the Hungarian GP weekend.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 13:26

    Half a million gallons every time.

    blimey!

  • lou15/07/2009 at 13:27

    Yes sir.

    yay!! :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:27

    Yes sir.

    Did you ask him to do an interview?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:27

    btw i've no idea how many people have seen this already, but if you have any shots of anything Brawn GP related, like drivers or cars or whatever you can send them to [email protected] if you would like them to appear on Brawn's new fan gallery feature that is to be launched over the Hungarian GP weekend.

    Nice to see a team letting the fans outsoething on their site. Have you sent your stalker pictures in?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:29

    Did you ask him to do an interview?

    Not yet.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 13:29

    Nice to see a team letting the fans outsoething on their site. Have you sent your stalker pictures in?

    yes i've sent a few. i like that they've got their own title now, even if it was Jenson stalking us :P

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:32

    Not yet.

    The way I see it if he left his personal e-mail address he wants you to talk to him.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 13:33

    The way I see it if he left his personal e-mail address he wants you to talk to him.

    Ooooh - I like that way of thinking! :D

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:34

    The way I see it if he left his personal e-mail address he wants you to talk to him.

    Ah, I like this.

    I figured I'd see if I got a response first. Nothing yet, but he is out and about in Canada doing busy things, so perhaps he hasn't had time to Google himself again yet.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:35

    I figured I'd see if I got a response first. Nothing yet, but he is out and about in Canada doing busy things, so perhaps he hasn't had time to Google himself again yet.

    You need to ask about his leg and if he is doing the Petit LeMans

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:36

    You need to ask about his leg and if he is doing the Petit LeMans

    I did wish him well with the leg.

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 13:36

    This is a public service announcement.

    When using satnav - double check that that destination is the one you want.

    I've gone about 100 miles out of my way... Bum.

    I wasn't paying attention and selected Nuremberg rather than Nurberg - Just a teeny tiny difference.

    :D

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 13:37

    I wasn't paying attention and selected Nuremberg rather than Nurberg - Just a teeny tiny difference.

    Oh noes! :(

    Will you still push through with the Nurburgring.

  • James15/07/2009 at 13:37

    Transcribing update, I've been lazy today and have only done 5 minutes so far. Currently 25 minutes done and a word count of 5493 (thats more than I was doing to Uni assignments ;))

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 13:37

    Will you still push through with the Nurburgring.

    ?

  • lou15/07/2009 at 13:37

    :D

    at least you're still smiling :D

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:37

    Transcribing update, I've been lazy today and have only done 5 minutes so far. Currently 25 minutes done and a word count of 5493 (thats more than I was doing to Uni assignments ;))

    Amazing!! We heart you.

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 13:38

    I wasn't paying attention and selected Nuremberg rather than Nurberg - Just a teeny tiny difference.

    An easy mistake anyone can make, Bernie thought it was the Nuremberg Rally and not the Nurburgring GP last week

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:38

    This is a public service announcement.

    how are you commenting on the road flibster?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 13:38

    An easy mistake anyone can make, Bernie thought it was the Nuremberg Rally and not the Nurburgring GP last week

    :D

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:38

    Amazing!! We heart you.

    seconded.

  • James15/07/2009 at 13:39

    Amazing!! We heart you.

    seconded.

    Yay I'm hearted :D

    But in future I say you need to get some software to do this all for you :lol:

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:39

    I wasn't paying attention and selected Nuremberg rather than Nurberg - Just a teeny tiny difference.

    hehe, I remember asking for idrections when i was in Nurenberg.

    Lots of confused germans

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:40

    I wasn't paying attention and selected Nuremberg rather than Nurberg - Just a teeny tiny difference.

    You are lucky you only went 100 miles out of your way. Nuremberg is a long way away.

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:40

    But in future I say you need to get some software to do this all for you :lol:

    there is none. but thankyou for helping.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 13:41

    Amazing!! We heart you.

    I took a break from mine before and came back to see Ted News with a #sorryamy. That'll teach me to stop.

  • James15/07/2009 at 13:42

    there is none. but thankyou for helping.

    darn, oh well.

    I took a break from mine before and came back to see Ted News with a #sorryamy. That'll teach me to stop.

    Amy I wouldn't worry, you work a lot faster than I do :)

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:42

    I took a break from mine before and came back to see Ted News with a #sorryamy. That'll teach me to stop.

    We heart you too Amy. Did you see that your first transcript went up on the site yesterday?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:42

    I took a break from mine before and came back to see Ted News with a #sorryamy. That'll teach me to stop.

    I wasnt sure how do read that report.

    One way he is negotiating, another he is as good as gone.

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 13:43

    Will you still push through with the Nurburgring.

    Got to turn around and head back the way I came...

    D'OH!

    how are you commenting on the road flibster?

    I've pulled over for a drink. Using my phone, it's 3g and Remote Desktop. or some reason all the live commenting options have stopped working on it at the moment. Plus laptop is in the boot.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:43

    I dont want to diminsh everyones amazing work... (well done guys :D )

    But is there a reason for the transcripts?

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 13:44

    We heart you too Amy. Did you see that your first transcript went up on the site yesterday?

    I did and I felt bad for not putting full stops at the end of all my paragraphs. So this one has full stops.

  • James15/07/2009 at 13:44

    But is there a reason for the transcripts?

    It's a part of sidepodbrainwashing.

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:45

    But is there a reason for the transcripts?

    oh yes. accessibility. no-one gets excluded.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:45

    I did and I felt bad for not putting full stops at the end of all my paragraphs. So this one has full stops.

    Hehe.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 13:45

    One way he is negotiating, another he is as good as gone.

    I like this line "Indeed, while acknowledging Kovalainen's strengths as a fast driver and a thoroughly good bloke"

    If I had a team I would totally pick drivers based on whether they were "thoroughly good blokes."

    My team would probably be rubbish.

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:45

    I've pulled over for a drink. Using my phone, it's 3g and Remote Desktop. or some reason all the live commenting options have stopped working on it at the moment. Plus laptop is in the boot.

    i thought you said you left your phone on your bed with your camera back home?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:45

    If I had a team I would totally pick drivers based on whether they were "thoroughly good blokes."

    My team would probably be rubbish.

    It was for a few years

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:46

    oh yes. accessibility. no-one gets excluded.

    ah :D

    I actually know someone in Aus that writes TV subtitles for a living..

  • lou15/07/2009 at 13:46

    But is there a reason for the transcripts?

    it's so much easier to look back through a transcript when looking for something that was said at one point than it is to listen to the show again, take the rehearsal the other day for example. Mr C wanted to know what sections the digests were split up into and going to the transcript was the best way to find out. :)

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 13:47

    it's so much easier to look back through a transcript when looking for something that was said at one point than it is to listen to the show again, take the rehearsal the other day for example. Mr C wanted to know what sections the digests were split up into and going to the transcript was the best way to find out. :)

    They were a godsend for the best of shows in 2007. And for half of '08 ;)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:47

    Can you search audio yet?

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 13:48

    I actually know someone in Aus that writes TV subtitles for a living..

    I was just wondering where I could get a job that is just typing stuff all day. Then I remembered talking to one of the girls at my old job whose job it was to transcribe dictations from doctors and how it made her want to jump off the helipad.

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 13:48

    Hello everyone. I thought I caught a little about Heikki's negotiation. It was reported in the US that Nico is being considered for Mclaren? Does anyone think that is a step up. I think Heikki has been plagued by bad luck, but is every bit as good as Nico? Any comments>

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:48

    Can you search audio yet?

    there was a company a while back. they vanished though.

  • James15/07/2009 at 13:49

    I was just wondering where I could get a job that is just typing stuff all day. Then I remembered talking to one of the girls at my old job whose job it was to transcribe dictations from doctors and how it made her want to jump off the helipad.

    I type all day at the moment, my job now is esentially web development but I enjoy it so it's worth it :)

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 13:49

    i thought you said you left your phone on your bed with your camera back home?

    was in the bottom of my bag under everthing - Was positive I had left it at home though.

    Ex-work phoned me and it vibrated against my belt. They are not happy. :D

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:49

    I was just wondering where I could get a job that is just typing stuff all day. Then I remembered talking to one of the girls at my old job whose job it was to transcribe dictations from doctors and how it made her want to jump off the helipad.

    Yeah.. she does get paid to watch tv all day.

    She also gets it a lot earlier than people see it obviously.

    Apparently she finds it very tricky to talk to people who watch soap operas! :P

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 13:50

    there was a company a while back. they vanished though.

    There are two other companies... Autonomy and Google. But Google's isn't ready for showtime. And Autonomy's is on the expensive side.

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:50

    was in the bottom of my bag under everthing - Was positive I had left it at home though.

    ace. have a safe trip then :)

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:50

    there was a company a while back. they vanished though.

    actually:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/08/14/f1-podcast-search/

    still going.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:52

    That looks usefull,

    What was the player that you embedded in doohicky the other day about?

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 13:52

    I type all day at the moment, my job now is esentially web development but I enjoy it so it's worth it :)

    sometimes I feel like the only person who visits sidepodcast who doesn't know any sort of coding language :D

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:53

    What was the player that you embedded in doohicky the other day about?

    soundcloud. scoble recommended them. a service for the music industry, but has visual chapters which is interesting.

  • James15/07/2009 at 13:53

    sometimes I feel like the only person who visits sidepodcast who doesn't know any sort of coding language :D

    Hehe I'm sure there are others. We talk about it because Mr C is a good source of knowledge :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:53

    Hello everyone. I thought I caught a little about Heikki's negotiation. It was reported in the US that Nico is being considered for Mclaren? Does anyone think that is a step up. I think Heikki has been plagued by bad luck, but is every bit as good as Nico? Any comments>

    McLaren wanted Nico before they signed Heikki and offered a lot of money to him to sign but his father told him not to sign. Keke Rosberg used to own a kart team which ran Lewis and Nico as team mates and Nico didn't come out ahead. If he couldn't do it in a team owned by his father he is unlikely to do at McLaren. I doubt there is much between Heikki and Nico.

  • Flibster15/07/2009 at 13:54

    ace. have a safe trip then :)

    Will do.

    Ring opens in a couple of hours - 119.7 miles to go.

    Nice and dry too which should be good for my super sticky tyres.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 13:54

    sometimes I feel like the only person who visits sidepodcast who doesn't know any sort of coding language :D

    no i assure you, you aren't alone. i had a go at coding once, i got confused, angry and upset. So i know nothing about it, and am happy for it to stay that way :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:55

    sometimes I feel like the only person who visits sidepodcast who doesn't know any sort of coding language :D

    You are not alone. I am totally clueless

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:55

    Hello everyone. I thought I caught a little about Heikki's negotiation. It was reported in the US that Nico is being considered for Mclaren? Does anyone think that is a step up. I think Heikki has been plagued by bad luck, but is every bit as good as Nico? Any comments>

    Nico has the hair.. He is german as well as finnish and i think if there performance was level then Nico would be a better bet in terms of marketing.

    I think he might be a bit quicker. He also has more experience and has had to help develop the car with Williams.

    His friendship with lewis will help him too.

    {sorry amy} I like Heikki I promise :)

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 13:56

    There are two other companies... Autonomy and Google. But Google's isn't ready for showtime. And Autonomy's is on the expensive side.

    In case anyone is interested Virage (which is Autonomy's product) is the thing that does the live text detection for the subtitles on the news.

    They have a demo somewhere which proves that while they do clearly make mistakes on that live transcription (an incredible thing when you think about the processing going on) that if they slow down by even 5% then they can get almost 100% accuracy.

    http://www.virage.com/rich-media/index.htm

  • James15/07/2009 at 13:56

    soundcloud. scoble recommended them. a service for the music industry, but has visual chapters which is interesting.

    McLaren wanted Nico before they signed Heikki and offered a lot of money to him to sign but his father told him not to sign. Keke Rosberg used to own a kart team which ran Lewis and Nico as team mates and Nico didn't come out ahead. If he couldn't do it in a team owned by his father he is unlikely to do at McLaren. I doubt there is much between Heikki and Nico.

    I think Sutil would be a good choice for McLaren, he gets on well with Lewis, his performances in the Force India have been good and he knows how to get in the way of the Ferrari's.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:57

    sometimes I feel like the only person who visits sidepodcast who doesn't know any sort of coding language :D

    I struggle with the wiki :P

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 13:58

    Hehe I'm sure there are others. We talk about it because Mr C is a good source of knowledge :)

    I do regret not doing Comp Sci at Uni, when I was a kid I taught myself HTML and I was always fiddling around with the computer. I know I could go back...maybe I will one day.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 13:58

    They have a demo somewhere which proves that while they do clearly make mistakes on that live transcription (an incredible thing when you think about the processing going on) that if they slow down by even 5% then they can get almost 100% accuracy.

    Is this the sort of thing channel 5 would use on their football comentry.

    Becuase the subtitles for that are a comedy show in their own right!

  • me15/07/2009 at 13:58

    They have a demo somewhere which proves that while they do clearly make mistakes on that live transcription (an incredible thing when you think about the processing going on) that if they slow down by even 5% then they can get almost 100% accuracy.

    i can see how it would work on the bbc. but the heck could any system cope with conversations we have? especially skype calls.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 13:59

    I think Sutil would be a good choice for McLaren, he gets on well with Lewis, his performances in the Force India have been good and he knows how to get in the way of the Ferrari's.

    Sutil is just too big physically.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 13:59

    Nico has the hair.. He is german as well as finnish and i think if there performance was level then Nico would be a better bet in terms of marketing.

    Pfff, Finnish. Fake Finnish. Speaks every language in the world except Finnish.

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 14:00

    sometimes I feel like the only person who visits sidepodcast who doesn't know any sort of coding language :D

    Join the club,

    Howdy all, another hull vanished, somehow i dont think ronseals claim of "It does exactly what it says on the tin" is going to stand for my current project....

    There never be a stupider phrase to a bottle boat builder than "fully waterproof"

    hmm

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 14:00

    i can see how it would work on the bbc. but the heck could any system cope with conversations we have? especially skype calls.

    I don't know... It probably wouldn't. Google's one is being designed especially for pointing it at YouTube.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 14:02

    "Finn Nico Rosberg has closed to within six points of GP2 championship leader Heikki Kovalainen with two second places at Monza this weekend.

    Rosberg was second to countryman Kovalainen in the first race on Saturday and then chased Swiss Neel Jani home in the second on Sunday."

    Silly confused Nico ;)

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:02

    I don't know... It probably wouldn't. Google's one is being designed especially for pointing it at YouTube.

    could be interesting. may have to investigate.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 14:02

    Pfff, Finnish. Fake Finnish. Speaks every language in the world except Finnish.

    Grrr... Fake Finnish... Grrr. ;)

    That said, I'm surprised that for someone with a Finnish fad, he barely knows any Finnish.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 14:03

    That said, I'm surprised that for someone with a Finnish fad, he barely knows any Finnish.

    I mean dad. ;)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 14:03

    Pfff, Finnish. Fake Finnish. Speaks every language in the world except Finnish.

    If he is the only finn in f1 next year would you support him?

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 14:03

    Silly confused Nico ;)

    BBC label him as German, maybe he's just indecisive

  • James15/07/2009 at 14:05

    BBC label him as German, maybe he's just indecisive

    He was born in Germany.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 14:06

    If he is the only finn in f1 next year would you support him?

    No. I've never liked Nico, even before I realised I had this Finn-thing.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 14:06

    BBC label him as German, maybe he's just indecisive

    He raced as a Finn when he was in GP2, but had to change to Germany for F1 for some rule about passports or which country endorses your super license or something or rather that I read and promptly forgot.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 14:07

    No. I've never liked Nico, even before I realised I had this Finn-thing.

    How will you support Mclaren with Nico and Lewis there?

    Maybe you will warm to them?

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 14:07

    He was born in Germany.

    I was born in Southampton....dosen't mean i often like to forget tat i was....maybe he's not indecisive, maybe he just realises that Finland is a better country

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 14:07

    I mean dad. ;)

    I'd be annoyed to grow up and realise my parents hadn't taught me the language of their culture. I remember reading that he couldn't really communicate with his paternal grandparents. Although he learnt four languages, so he can't be too unhappy. I hate being monolingual.

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:08

    but had to change to Germany for F1 for some rule about passports or which country endorses your super license or something or rather that I read and promptly forgot.

    money.

    there's a bigger potential audience in germany.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 14:08

    How will you support Mclaren with Nico and Lewis there?

    I could support Lewis. I might warm to Nico but I'd never fully embrace him. I remember him being hyped as a future world champion pretty early in his career because he scored one point or something, but I can't think of any drive he has had where he actually impressed me.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 14:09

    could be interesting. may have to investigate.

    You may or may not know a company called SpinVox who do a really cool (and really works) thing which picks up your voicemail for your and e-mails you the voicemail message turned into text with an attachment with the sound file...

    ...turns out they've done a deal with Audio-Boo to add automatic transcription for Boos... Announced this week...

    http://www.podcastingnews.com/2009/07/10/iphone-podcasting-service-adds-automatic-voice-to-text-transcription/

  • James15/07/2009 at 14:09

    there's a bigger potential audience in germany.

    Well there was but that was before Glock, Vettel and Sutil turned up.

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:10

    Well there was but that was before Glock, Vettel and Sutil turned up.

    he only has to be the fastest. vettel probably stuffed his plans mind you.

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 14:10

    I could support Lewis. I might warm to Nico but I'd never fully embrace him. I remember him being hyped as a future world champion pretty early in his career because he scored one point or something, but I can't think of any drive he has had where he actually impressed me.

    Fastest lap in his first ever race i believe

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:10

    ...turns out they've done a deal with Audio-Boo to add automatic transcription for Boos... Announced this week...

    ooh. didn't know that. cheers.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 14:11

    money.

    and fancy TV intros with rows of Germans looking all intimidating.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 14:11

    ooh. didn't know that. cheers.

    I didn't either... Random timing.

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:13

    I didn't either... Random timing.

    i shall forward them lukeh's first voicemail from goodwood and see what comes out of it :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 14:14

    He raced as a Finn when he was in GP2, but had to change to Germany for F1 for some rule about passports or which country endorses your super license or something or rather that I read and promptly forgot.

    A driver's nationality depends on which country issues his racing license. As far as I know Nico has always been German but everyone assumed he was Finnish. For some reason at Le Mans McNish had a Monaco license and and a Monaco flag next to his name in the car.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 14:15

    i shall forward them lukeh's first voicemail from goodwood and see what comes out of it :)

    cool :) Maybe we'll find out what he said!

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 14:15

    A driver's nationality depends on which country issues his racing license. As far as I know Nico has always been German but everyone assumed he was Finnish. For some reason at Le Mans McNish had a Monaco license and and a Monaco flag next to his name in the car.

    The licence is many many many thousands of pounds cheaper

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 14:15

    I'd be annoyed to grow up and realise my parents hadn't taught me the language of their culture. I remember reading that he couldn't really communicate with his paternal grandparents. Although he learnt four languages, so he can't be too unhappy. I hate being monolingual.

    I thought you knew Spanish

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 14:16

    but had to change to Germany for F1 for some rule about passports or which country endorses your super license or something or rather that I read and promptly forgot.

    There is some austrian guy in GP2 pretending to be from the UAE

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 14:16

    i shall forward them lukeh's first voicemail from goodwood and see what comes out of it :)

    One for the list ;)

    http://create.spinvox.com/index.php?pageid=0

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 14:16

    I thought you knew Spanish

    learning. Slowly. I could handle general tourist Spanish but thats about it so far.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 14:17

    i shall forward them lukeh's first voicemail from goodwood and see what comes out of it :)

    Send the really really bad.wav

    It might break everything!

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:17

    One for the list ;)

    :)

    doesn't seem to do long passages of audio though? it wouldn't even get through a mini series episode would it?

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:17

    Send the really really bad.wav

    :)

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 14:18

    doesn't seem to do long passages of audio though? it wouldn't even get through a mini series episode would it?

    Well I'm not sure if once you sign up for the dev program you can get it to do other things. Maybe the audioboo guys are doing something funky

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:18

    doesn't seem to do long passages of audio though? it wouldn't even get through a mini series episode would it?

    in fact:

    Duration of The Message: Maximum acceptable length of the message will be 30 seconds.

    that's not even a comments worth?

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 14:18

    doesn't seem to do long passages of audio though? it wouldn't even get through a mini series episode would it?

    You mean it cant do what im currently trying for it to do, and get it to do a debrief?

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:19

    Well I'm not sure if once you sign up for the dev program you can get it to do other things. Maybe the audioboo guys are doing something funky

    shall do just that :)

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 14:19

    that's not even a comments worth?

    :(

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:19

    You mean it cant do what im currently trying for it to do, and get it to do a debrief?

    you are?

    i think you may struggle.

  • Alex Andronov15/07/2009 at 14:19

    shall do just that :)

    Yay!

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 14:19

    you are?

    yeah, its not working ;)

  • me15/07/2009 at 14:24

    Yay!

    yikes. $35.00 for 100 credits.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 14:48

    I thought The Hair couldn't speak Finnish? He certainly sounds like a natural when he speaks German...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 14:51

    I thought The Hair couldn't speak Finnish? He certainly sounds like a natural when he speaks German...

    His mother is German and he never learned Finnish

  • James15/07/2009 at 14:56

    For Christine and Me, on the last debrief "The Race" section had over 4300 words ;)

    Listening to you two slowed down makes it sound like you've been drinking :lol:

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 14:57

    Listening to you two slowed down makes it sound like you've been drinking :lol:

    Surely the wine spilling over his Max gave that away at normal speed

  • Kris15/07/2009 at 15:01

    I've just read the story about Todt being named as Max's preferred successor to the FIA throne. I'm not sure that they'll be able to get him through a vote given how close he's been to ferrari in the recent past.

    At risk of making a cheap joke thats already been done... The teams are fed up with the FIA being an autocracy run "by fiat", so the man from ferrari was the natural choice.

  • me15/07/2009 at 15:04

    Listening to you two slowed down makes it sound like you've been drinking :lol:

    i had.

  • James15/07/2009 at 15:04

    i had.

    Ok...

    drunk then :P

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 15:04

    i had.

    Not when we did the debrief you hadn't.

  • James15/07/2009 at 15:07

    Not when we did the debrief you hadn't.

    Clearly he has drunk so much he doesn't remember.

  • me15/07/2009 at 15:09

    Not when we did the debrief you hadn't.

    ahh no. unnamed, but original, cola drink.

  • me15/07/2009 at 15:10

    Clearly he has drunk so much he doesn't remember.

    if it happened before yesterday, i have no recollection.

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 15:12

    What happens if Kathi wins the quiz?

    LOL (I know I have only just caught up with comment #1, you don't need to tell me)

  • James15/07/2009 at 15:17

    The arguments are still raging over how to pronounce Not Seb's name. I'm loving that for once it is not just me that doesn't know how to say something. What we really need is for Name That Driver to grab him and tell us once and for all.

    I've been thinking about this, the way he said his name in that video make me think to say it like Amy with a H at the start so Hamy although that looks different when I type it out.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 15:20

    I've been thinking about this, the way he said his name in that video make me think to say it like Amy with a H at the start so Hamy although that looks different when I type it out.

    Mr Jimmy Superaguri

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:20

    Do you guys know Suzi Perry from The Gadget Show and the BBC MotoGP coverage is recovering from Meningitis? Send a tweet @suziperry coz she really likes the messages of support!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 15:21

    Do you guys know Suzi Perry from The Gadget Show and the BBC MotoGP coverage is recovering from Meningitis? Send a tweet @suziperry coz she really likes the messages of support!

    She had that before the Moto GP season started

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:23

    Lukeh, when you read this can you please make a photoshop picture of Jean Todt as a toad with a crown on his head? It would look really funny!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 15:25

    Why is no one calling for Fisichella to be sacked from force india?

    Surely he is more deserving of it than PK?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:25

    Do you guys know Suzi Perry from The Gadget Show and the BBC MotoGP coverage is recovering from Meningitis? Send a tweet @suziperry coz she really likes the messages of support!

    She had that before the Moto GP season started

    Seems like she's had another bout of it then...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:26

    Why is no one calling for Fisichella to be sacked from force india?

    Surely he is more deserving of it than PK?

    Apparently people still like him. IMO he's been overdue for a sacking since 2007!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:26

    Surely he is more deserving of it than PK?

    Fisi's actually been closer to the points more often than Sutil has.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:26

    Fisi's actually been closer to the points more often than Sutil has.

    This season, anyway. :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 15:28

    Fisi's actually been closer to the points more often than Sutil has.

    But hes old and not getting better suti is!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:29

    But hes old and not getting better sutil is!

    Well, the rumors are that he's retiring after this season anyway, and that Liuzzi is replacing him...

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 15:30

    Well, the rumors are that he's retiring after this season anyway, and that Liuzzi is replacing him...

    So why wait?

  • GMM15/07/2009 at 15:30

    I hate to cause a stir, but I fancy there's an awful lot of feedback to be gained from this rather intelligent and non-violent community. I am used to those who complain on the basis that my business model is a threat to those who began treading around F1 paddocks in the 80s and 90s, and indeed those who still do, but I must admit to being interested in knowing more about why people with no vested interests are similarly outspoken. Call me masochistic, but I invite a conversation in which I can reply directly to your criticisms, or (and I know your numbers may be drearily few in this realm), your support. Condemn you may, but never shall I be accused of cowardice in the jaws of denunciation! Christine, or those otherwise in charge, I invite you to email me to arrange a time: 'Great GMM debate?' You ain't seen nothing yet!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:31

    So why wait?

    I guess Fisi's doing well enough - well enough not to get sacked midseason, anyway.

    And they might give Fisi a chance to race at Monza one last time.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:31

    Well, the rumors are that he's retiring after this season anyway, and that Liuzzi is replacing him...

    So why wait?

    To thank him for his efforts and allow him to bow out gracefully?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:31

    To thank him for his efforts and allow him to bow out gracefully?

    And that too.

    Ooooh, look who's left a comment. Lemme read...

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:32

    I am scared. I am just at this very moment transcribing Joe's thoughts on GMM.

    Were you around the first time we really got talking about GMM? I don't think so, no?

    I wonder if Christine will say yes to this one...

  • lou15/07/2009 at 15:32

    She had that before the Moto GP season started

    really? i thought the reason she missed the start of the Moto GP season was because she was recovering from an ectopic pregnancy not meningitis?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:33

    Ooooh, look who's left a comment. Lemme read...

    Didn't he comment here before? That was just a load of tosh. Go away GMM man, we're not interested in your tabloid rubbish!

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 15:33

    Didn't he comment here before? That was just a load of tosh. Go away GMM man, we're not interested in your tabloid rubbish!

    Gavin, that's hardly the intelligent comments of which he speaks, is it?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:34

    Damn, no internet this evening... what a shame!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:35

    Damn, no internet this evening... what a shame!

    Are you talking about the quiz?

    I want that t-shirt! :D

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 15:36

    I hate to cause a stir, but I fancy there's an awful lot of feedback to be gained from this rather intelligent and non-violent community. I am used to those who complain on the basis that my business model is a threat to those who began treading around F1 paddocks in the 80s and 90s, and indeed those who still do, but I must admit to being interested in knowing more about why people with no vested interests are similarly outspoken. Call me masochistic, but I invite a conversation in which I can reply directly to your criticisms, or (and I know your numbers may be drearily few in this realm), your support. Condemn you may, but never shall I be accused of cowardice in the jaws of denunciation! Christine, or those otherwise in charge, I invite you to email me to arrange a time: 'Great GMM debate?' You ain't seen nothing yet!

    Hmm I perhaps am more moderate than most.

    My constructive criticism would be.

    1) Please avoid the more sensationalist and tabloidy stories.

    2) Please cite the sources from where the news originally came from so people can judge where it came from. I see you do do this some of the time.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:36

    Didn't he comment here before? That was just a load of tosh. Go away GMM man, we're not interested in your tabloid rubbish!

    Gavin, that's hardly the intelligent comments of which he speaks, is it?

    Why is it unintelligent? I am very sick of seeing the aggregated stories misquoted and used as fact. He's only here to cause a stir and he could have just contacted you privately.

    I should be allowed to react to Mr.GMM's post too shouldn't I?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:37

    1) Please avoid the more sensationalist and tabloidy stories.

    And headlines, too.

  • James15/07/2009 at 15:37

    Lukeh, when you read this can you please make a photoshop picture of Jean Todt as a toad with a crown on his head? It would look really funny!

    I know I'm not Lukeh ;) http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/todt-jpg

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 15:37

    Spooky!

    Joe says: what they do is they suck in all the people who have got money to feed the freelancers and basically it puts the pressure on the freelancers because the money that used to be out there isn’t there anymore.. You are actually destroying what you’re feeding off. Unless you have those good sources of information to steal, you won’t have the valuable information so it becomes harder and harder to actually tell the world that you’re an expert because you know less and less, so in the overall scheme of things the quality of Formula One news will go down if this is allowed to go on. It is just an inevitability.

  • James15/07/2009 at 15:38

    Lukeh, when you read this can you please make a photoshop picture of Jean Todt as a toad with a crown on his head? It would look really funny!

    I know I'm not Lukeh ;) http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/todt-jpg

    And I just noticed you said as a toad, oops :D

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 15:38

    I hate to cause a stir, but I fancy there's an awful lot of feedback to be gained from this rather intelligent and non-violent community. I am used to those who complain on the basis that my business model is a threat to those who began treading around F1 paddocks in the 80s and 90s, and indeed those who still do, but I must admit to being interested in knowing more about why people with no vested interests are similarly outspoken. Call me masochistic, but I invite a conversation in which I can reply directly to your criticisms, or (and I know your numbers may be drearily few in this realm), your support. Condemn you may, but never shall I be accused of cowardice in the jaws of denunciation! Christine, or those otherwise in charge, I invite you to email me to arrange a time: 'Great GMM debate?' You ain't seen nothing yet!

    Your business model is not a threat to people reporting news. You are just re-hashing anyything you can find without bothering to find out if there is any basis to it. What you do is no different to what any commenter on this site does apart from the fact that you call it news and charge for it.

  • me15/07/2009 at 15:38

    Christine, or those otherwise in charge, I invite you to email me to arrange a time: 'Great GMM debate?' You ain't seen nothing yet!

    utter rubbish. andrew we already this debate here:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/02/03/f1-websites-you-can-trust/#comment-185316

    and you came out of it looking very bad indeed. or have you forgotten that conversation already?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 15:38

    I should be allowed to react to Mr.GMM's post too shouldn't I?

    Of course. You can react to what he said however you choose.

    Am not sure I agree with you telling people to "go away", though. That's more our domain.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:39

    Lukeh, when you read this can you please make a photoshop picture of Jean Todt as a toad with a crown on his head? It would look really funny!

    I know I'm not Lukeh ;) http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/todt-jpg

    That's a good start - cheers!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 15:39

    really? i thought the reason she missed the start of the Moto GP season was because she was recovering from an ectopic pregnancy not meningitis?

    Was it? I knew she was very ill and I thought meningitis. I probably have my stories mixed up.

  • Scott in Italy15/07/2009 at 15:39

    unrelated - i assume Steven has mentioned the space shuttle take off in 6 hours (if it's on schedule!) - and now I'll disappear again ;)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 15:40

    utter rubbish. andrew we already this debate here:

    An Audio version of that might be interesting, and educational for some listeners.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:40

    I should be allowed to react to Mr.GMM's post too shouldn't I?

    Of course. You can react to what he said however you choose.

    Am not sure I agree with you telling people to "go away", though. That's more our domain.

    OK fair enough - I guess i could have said that bit better but I stand by the rest of my statement!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 15:40

    I know I'm not Lukeh ;) http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/todt-jpg

    I like that

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:40

    unrelated - i assume Steven has mentioned the space shuttle take off in 6 hours (if it's on schedule!) - and now I'll disappear again ;)

    Yes, he has. :D

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 15:41

    OK fair enough - I guess i could have said that bit better but I stand by the rest of my statement!

    I agree :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 15:42

    unrelated - i assume Steven has mentioned the space shuttle take off in 6 hours (if it's on schedule!) - and now I'll disappear again ;)

    I refuse to say it will take off. It is scheduled to launch then but whether it does or not is anyone's guess

  • Scott in Italy15/07/2009 at 15:42

    Yes, he has. :D

    of course he has, but i thought i'd double up, and was too apathetic to read all the comments (busy day).

  • me15/07/2009 at 15:42

    Your business model is not a threat to people reporting news. You are just re-hashing anyything you can find without bothering to find out if there is any basis to it. What you do is no different to what any commenter on this site does apart from the fact that you call it news and charge for it.

    agreed. there is no debate to be had, and we are not being dragged into anything that will likely serve to be a nothing more than a cheap-assed advertising stunt.

  • RG15/07/2009 at 15:43

    Good afternoon everyone, how is the sidepodworld today?

    Looking forward to the quiz tonight and the lclt is still a bit slow, i blame firefox.

  • Scott in Italy15/07/2009 at 15:44

    I refuse to say it will take off. It is scheduled to launch then but whether it does or not is anyone's guess

    beautiful use of the language there. I won't be online much today so I won't "invest" lots of hours watching them abort. But when I'm in the USA, I think I might have to take holidays in Florida for a week to watch one of these beasts go up. I'll live comment and make you all jealous ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:45

    OK then Mr GMM, Here's my response to your post:

    Please stop using other people's material to make a profit for yourself - you're biting the hand that feeds you. Also, please be more responsible with what you post - sometimes you have been very loose with the facts and all it does is anger people who have to check if the stories are true or not.

    This is especially important because it seems that a lot of sites are purchasing your news stories and not revealing that they are your stories - which means that it makes it harder for the real F1 fans to find out whether the stories are reliable or not.

    Finally, if you must operate at a distance from the F1 paddock, then please cultivate and pay for better sources who have proper inside knowledge - only then will I be able to start trusting your stories as factual.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 15:47

    beautiful use of the language there. I won't be online much today so I won't "invest" lots of hours watching them abort. But when I'm in the USA, I think I might have to take holidays in Florida for a week to watch one of these beasts go up. I'll live comment and make you all jealous ;)

    I am jealous already.

    They should by now have finished filling the fuel tank again. NASA still saying 60% chance of good weather. NASA TV coverage starts in 45 minutes

  • Scott in Italy15/07/2009 at 15:48

    I am jealous already.

    saves me a trip then ;) if these things went on schedule, i probably would have already gone by now.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 15:51

    But crt+c and crt+v have really helped me out with some work ;)

    Hehe. They get me into all sorts of trouble on this site!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:54

    I assume his visit and the launch of Giggles Made-up Media are not entirely co-incidental

    Indeed.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 15:55

    I assume his visit and the launch of Giggles Made-up Media are not entirely co-incidental

    Indeed.

    Can't take a joke then? Sounds quite mild compared to what some people are saying...

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 15:56

    the teams, the sponsors, they are ballistic about these people as well because they have to deal with the fallout of if you have a story that someone’s slamming somebody else and it appears in twenty places, they have to deal with that. The sponsors get into a panic about it and they ring up the team and say “why is this happening” and the teams say “this isn’t true.” And entire Formula One press conferences are wasted discussing things that are not true. People have to ask the question because there it is, “don’t forget to ask about this” and you say “it’s not true” and they say “it doesn’t matter it’s been in the newspapers, it must be true”

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:56

    Can't take a joke then? Sounds quite mild compared to what some people are saying...

    I think he didn't mind the joke, but he did wonder why it was happening, I think.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 15:56

    that was a Joe quote too. I need to sleep but I'm enjoying my typing.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 15:57

    that was a Joe quote too. I need to sleep but I'm enjoying my typing.

    :D

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 15:57

    There is also a big risk that people might take ralph's opinion seriously if it is so widely circulated

  • me15/07/2009 at 15:57

    that was a Joe quote too. I need to sleep but I'm enjoying my typing.

    just to clarify. joe didn't actually mention any names did he?

  • RG15/07/2009 at 15:58

    just to clarify. joe didn't actually mention any names did he?

    No, I don't think you did on that show either.

  • me15/07/2009 at 15:58

    There is also a big risk that people might take ralph's opinion seriously if it is so widely circulated

    the wider the circulation, the more chance people will believe it.

    "i read it here and here" etc. the fact the stories all came from the same misinformed source apparently make no odds.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 15:59

    just to clarify. joe didn't actually mention any names did he?

    no. Start of the train of thought is this:

    Me: We are aware of one of those such companies and we’ve mentioned them on the show in the past, we’ve mentioned them on the website. How many beyond the main one are there doing this then, are there other companies out there doing similar?

    Joe: Not many.

  • Kris15/07/2009 at 15:59

    "i read it here and here" etc. the fact the stories all came from the same misinformed source apparently make no odds.

    Theres no "apparently" about it if sites aren't telling us that they all came from the same place... We've no alternative but to see it as several places reporting it

  • me15/07/2009 at 16:00

    no. Start of the train of thought is this

    thought so. completely understand you're putting two and two together, but that bit is important.

    ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 16:05

    no. Start of the train of thought is this

    My 'Train of Thought' home seems to be taking aaaages today!

  • me15/07/2009 at 16:06

    Theres no "apparently" about it if sites aren't telling us that they all came from the same place... We've no alternative but to see it as several places reporting it

    sites that source content from said company are supposed to quote the initials. problem is that doesn't mean anything to anyone.

    there's only a small number of people who will double-check sources and we've had to batter people around the heads here, until they understand the implications of quoting stories from unconfirmed sources.

    before we understood, we used to do the same. but hopefully we're all getting wiser by the day. the best thing anyone can do is write to a site paying for the services of any non-credible syndicated news service and suggest they stop contributing to the echo chamber.

  • me15/07/2009 at 16:07

    My 'Train of Thought' home seems to be taking aaaages today!

    trulli train of thought?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 16:08

    My 'Train of Thought' home seems to be taking aaaages today!

    trulli train of thought?

    Seems like it today. I'm not fussed - more time to play with my new toy and blog before I head to the 'Outpost' later :)

  • Alison15/07/2009 at 16:08

    Afternoon all :)

  • me15/07/2009 at 16:09

    howdy alison.

  • James15/07/2009 at 16:09

    I assume his visit and the launch of Giggles Made-up Media are not entirely co-incidental

    What does GMM stand for anyway?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:09

    Good afternoon peeps, is it safe to come back yet? :)

  • me15/07/2009 at 16:09

    What does GMM stand for anyway?

    giggles made-up media?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 16:09

    Good afternoon peeps, is it safe to come back yet? :)

    Depends on what you were avoiding...

  • me15/07/2009 at 16:10

    Good afternoon peeps, is it safe to come back yet? :)

    hey sir!

  • James15/07/2009 at 16:10

    giggles made-up media?

    Hehe I know that, what about the other one? :P

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 16:10

    Good afternoon peeps, is it safe to come back yet? :)

    no mate, I'm still here ;)

    You haven't been on the picket line, perchance?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:11

    Depends on what you were avoiding...

    Where do I start, Max, politics...

    Nah, just kidding - those things will never leave :)

    How are we all?

  • RG15/07/2009 at 16:11

    Hehe I know that, what about the other one? :P

    global motorsport media

    could never find there website for ages cos i didn't know what it meant. When i find it, its uninformitave

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:12

    You haven't been on the picket line, perchance?

    Nope, Engineering are doing their bit like the Pilots

    It's expenses-happy cabin crew that have the issues

    [I didn't say that]

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 16:12

    How are we all?

    Hey, you back from your trip?

    Was it good.

    Mr C thought you might have fancied a stroll to nova scotia...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 16:14

    You haven't been on the picket line, perchance?

    Nope, Engineering are doing their bit like the Pilots

    It's expenses-happy cabin crew that have the issues

    [I didn't say that]

    Isn't it always. Hang in there bud, you'll be fine. Where did you go for your trip?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:14

    How are we all?

    Hey, you back from your trip?

    Was it good.

    Mr C thought you might have fancied a stroll to nova scotia...

    Montreal was fab, despite not meeting any Sidepodders we just got drunk with regular Canadians

    Felt like we did but we didn't walk it to Nova Scotia, though I was given loads of State Flag Badges by some dudes from there [no idea why!]

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 16:14

    Right, will get some sleep pre-quiz.

    I'm hoping the PF chat page works properly for me by then.

    Later!

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:15

    Isn't it always. Hang in there bud, you'll be fine. Where did you go for your trip?

    Montreal, walked the circuit too [was quite eerie]

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 16:16

    Isn't it always. Hang in there bud, you'll be fine. Where did you go for your trip?

    Montreal, walked the circuit too [was quite eerie]

    I walked the circuit after Le Mans. It's like you feel the spirit of the place...

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:17

    I walked the circuit after Le Mans. It's like you feel the spirit of the place...

    Sad to see it starting to decay though

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 16:17

    Oh Cog. Nice weather all day until 5 mins from home and it's raining Biblically.

    See you tonight all and good luck with the quiz!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 16:18

    I walked the circuit after Le Mans. It's like you feel the spirit of the place...

    Sad to see it starting to decay though

    But they still race there?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:18

    But they still race there?

    Do they?

    Didn't look like it

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 16:18

    ooh, i think i fell asleep there. whoops. how are we all?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:19

    Didn't look like it

    Maybe that's how old circuits look between races

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 16:19

    Do they?

    Joe in Fla said he was going to a NASCAR race there last night

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 16:19

    Didn't look like it

    I Think Florida Joe was thinking of heading up there for a nscar event

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:20

    Joe in Fla said he was going to a NASCAR race there last night

    Is that not a street race?

    Pitlane looked decidedly unused but I guess when the trucks roll in it transforms

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:22

    Is that not a street race?

    Apparently it IS used for NASCAR

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 16:23

    Apparently it IS used for NASCAR

    Im not sure if he said stock cars or sports cars

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:24

    Im not sure if he said stock cars or sports cars

    Either way, we saw plenty of Marmots :)

  • Kathi15/07/2009 at 16:24

    About the transcripts: When you read out e-mails, do you keep them and can they just be copy-pasted or do they have to been transcribed as well?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 16:25

    About the transcripts: When you read out e-mails, do you keep them and can they just be copy-pasted or do they have to been transcribed as well?

    I should have them all somewhere. Personally, I find it easier to just transcribe it, but if it's a particularly long one, I do have them all stored away.

  • James15/07/2009 at 16:26

    About the transcripts: When you read out e-mails, do you keep them and can they just be copy-pasted or do they have to been transcribed as well?

    Hehe I was going to ask that at some point. I will need help with the name of someone who emailed in though the DJ ;)

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 16:27

    Hehe I was going to ask that at some point. I will need help with the name of someone who emailed in though the DJ ;)

    DJ Hanninen.

  • James15/07/2009 at 16:28

    DJ Hanninen.

    Thank you :)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:32

    Rubens has a Mac

    Is that some sort of weird multi-finger, trackpad gesture he's attempting?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 16:34

    http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/poor-old-max-oh-god-not-todt/

    haha Joe named his dogs Max and Bernie

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 16:34

    haha Joe named his dogs Max and Bernie

    hahah, amazing

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:40

    haha Joe named his dogs Max and Bernie

    hahah, amazing

    "I also had a dog called Bernie, but he was way too much trouble and had to be given away after less than a year"

    :D

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 16:42

    I also love his post before about Renault, pretty much sums up how i feel about the Renault-Piquet situ

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 16:51

    Evening.

  • Jon Waldock15/07/2009 at 16:51

    Evening.

    Evening sire. how be thou?

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 16:52

    Evening sire. how be thou?

    Not too bad, standard frustrating day of work followed by a nice evening fingers crossed. Although lots of ncie stuff this evening to keep me amused :D

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 16:53

    Hey Lukeh, still Photoshopping?

    Liked the Ruben's pic

  • James15/07/2009 at 16:55

    Lukeh was it true about Muse? (RE: Tweet)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 16:57

    "I also had a dog called Bernie, but he was way too much trouble and had to be given away after less than a year"

    Not really relevant, but i feel a need to link to this song

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 16:57

    Not really relevant, but i feel a need to link to this song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy0OrBJ056k

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 16:57

    Lukeh was it true about Muse? (RE: Tweet)

    Yep. 30 second clip of the intro to one of the songs off the new album. Basically they've started a treasure hunt around Europe and Asia telling people to go certain places at certain times to find certain things (which actually did happen, it wasn't some conpiracist joke amazingly!) and it's resulting in, when found, the progressive uploading of parts of the song. :)

  • James15/07/2009 at 17:00

    Yep. 30 second clip of the intro to one of the songs off the new album. Basically they've started a treasure hunt around Europe and Asia telling people to go certain places at certain times to find certain things (which actually did happen, it wasn't some conpiracist joke amazingly!) and it's resulting in, when found, the progressive uploading of parts of the song. :)

    Cool :D

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 17:22

    Has anyone posted this yet?

    Ye Olde Sidepodspace: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/07/remembering_apollo_11.html

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:23

    am just watching the goodwood program on the itv player. i'd forgotten just how annoying Steve Ryder was :(

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 17:23

    Has anyone posted this yet?

    Ye Olde Sidepodspace: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/07/remembering_apollo_11.html

    Nice pics

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 17:24

    Liked the Ruben's pic

    Which rubens pic? don't remember making a recent one...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:24

    Has anyone posted this yet?

    No

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 17:25

    Which rubens pic? don't remember making a recent one...

    Surfing sidepodcast

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 17:25

    Rubens has a Mac

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 17:25

    Surfing sidepodcast

    Ooooooooh. :D

    Sorry, my mind will soon catch up.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:26

    Which rubens pic? don't remember making a recent one...

    Surfing sidepodcast

    Unless its real :P

  • RG15/07/2009 at 17:27

    Unless its real :P

    First Franck, then Rubens. Its going off here.

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 17:27

    First Franck, then Rubens. Its going off here.

    Kimi's browsed SPC too.

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:28

    jonny n. thinks kimi may be interested in a seat at brawn, or failing that ferrari may have to swap alonso for massa:

    http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2281

    rubens and nick have apparently approached williams. nico now favourite to partner kubica.

    a good read indeed.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:29

    These guys should lean about doohicky, they always seem to be using ye olde commenting!

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 17:29

    Kimi's browsed SPC too.

    Oops, I mean Heikki or lewis, not Kimi. I can't remember which one it was...

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:30

    a good read indeed.

    i'm going to have to get me an autosport subscription at one point..

  • RG15/07/2009 at 17:30

    a good read indeed.

    Damn subscription.

    nico now favourite to partner kubica.

    At BMW?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:30

    jonny n. thinks kimi may be interested in a seat at brawn, or failing that ferrari may have to swap alonso for massa:

    I heard that the other day, i am not sure what he could add to brawn, especially if they are chasing sponsors?

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:31

    I heard that the other day, i am not sure what he could add to brawn, especially if they are chasing sponsors?

    me neither. i can see nico at bmw though.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:31

    rubens and nick have apparently approached williams. nico now favourite to partner kubica.

    Who's going to Mclaren?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:31

    jonny n. thinks kimi may be interested in a seat at brawn, or failing that ferrari may have to swap alonso for massa:

    Sounds like AUTOSPORT are doing their own version of who's on first. Just shuffle the names round and as soon as one team announces a driver you have suggested is going elsewhere explain why that makes other moves likely.

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:32

    Damn subscription.

    sorry, yes.

    At BMW?

    it doesn't say, but i assumed so.

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:32

    Who's going to Mclaren?

    lineup to remain if kovi pulls up his allstars.

  • RG15/07/2009 at 17:32

    me neither. i can see nico at bmw though.

    So can I. He seems to fit.

  • Kathi15/07/2009 at 17:33

    jonny n. thinks kimi may be interested in a seat at brawn, or failing that ferrari may have to swap alonso for massa:

    That was mentioned in the Finnish tabloids before the race. Kimi's manager said: "that's rubbish"

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:34

    lineup to remain if kovi pulls up his allstars.

    He turned the car off!

    I really cant see him staying. I could see him at brawn though

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:34

    rubens and nick have apparently approached williams. nico now favourite to partner kubica.

    if Rubens goes to Williams who will take his seat at Brawn? Senna?

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:34

    That was mentioned in the Finnish tabloids before the race. Kimi's manager said: "that's rubbish"

    doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. jonny also says kimi may just sit on his contract and refuse to budge.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:34

    jonny n. thinks kimi may be interested in a seat at brawn, or failing that ferrari may have to swap alonso for massa:

    Why would Massa trade a Ferrari contract for a Renault one? This is the usual bull accompanying the Alonso to Ferrari rumours. They never think out other people's motives. Last year Kimi was going to walk away from Ferrari but because that did't happen Massa is. Massa is in a position where he is convinced with goof readon that he has the beating of his team mate and the likelihood that Ferrari will have a competitive car next season. Why would he want to sign for Renault?

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 17:34

    rubens and nick have apparently approached williams. nico now favourite to partner kubica.

    Rubens at williams?

    Huh.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:35

    Who's going to Mclaren?

    Hopefully Paul di Resta

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:35

    That was mentioned in the Finnish tabloids before the race. Kimi's manager said: "that's rubbish"

    Does kimi have a pre recorded message for a manager?

    'Thats rubbish' is all i ever hear he has said!

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:35

    I really cant see him staying. I could see him at brawn though

    you WHA? Kovi go to Brawn!?! i hope not! (a thousand sorrys amy)

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:35

    He turned the car off!

    :D

    I really cant see him staying. I could see him at brawn though

    possibly yup. there should be a spare seat at renault though, maybe flav will take him back?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:36

    doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. jonny also says kimi may just sit on his contract and refuse to budge.

    It's just people trying to make the Alonso to Ferrari story work. Kimi would be far more suited to the Brawn than the Ferrari.

  • RG15/07/2009 at 17:36

    possibly yup. there should be a spare seat at renault though, maybe flav will take him back?

    Hmm, I don't think so. I reckon Grosjean will be there next season.

    Unless your talking about Alonso leaving, in which case possibly, or a swoop for Davidson/Rubens?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 17:37

    you WHA? Kovi go to Brawn!?! i hope not! (a thousand sorrys amy)

    :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:37

    possibly yup. there should be a spare seat at renault though, maybe flav will take him back?

    Unless Flav makes him the lead driver i cant see Heikki going anywhere near him!

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:37

    Rubens at williams?

    Huh.

    "Rubens Barrichello and Nick Heidfeld are covering their future options, with both having made approaches to Williams about their situation"

    it's written as fact, rather than speculation.

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 17:37

    it's written as fact, rather than speculation.

    That's annoying. :(

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:38

    it's written as fact, rather than speculation.

    i'm not good with big changes, Rubens going to Williams would upset me... i hope he gets to stay at Brawn. :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:38

    #sidepodspace update

    We are currently under a number of weather violations for launch. About 5 different violations at present. About 4 and a half hours to go though

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:39

    Unless your talking about Alonso leaving, in which case possibly, or a swoop for Davidson/Rubens?

    davidson is a no, no. unless kers is for keeps. plus i'd rather he kept commentating.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:39

    Rubens at williams?

    I could see Ant go there.

    Guess who was spotted in the Williams motorhome having a discussion with frank on Sunday?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 17:39

    We are currently under a number of weather violations for launch. About 5 different violations at present. About 4 and a half hours to go though

    Do I need to write another letter?

  • RG15/07/2009 at 17:40

    davidson is a no, no. unless kers is for keeps. plus i'd rather he kept commentating.

    Glad you said that, don't like him, don't want him in a team, i like him commentating though.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:40

    it's written as fact, rather than speculation.

    I am sure all sorts of drivers reps are talking to all sorts of teams and by definition the vast majority of them can never happen.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:40

    Do I need to write another letter?

    Maybe the letter didn't get there last time..

    try a fax?

  • RG15/07/2009 at 17:40

    Guess who was spotted in the Williams motorhome having a discussion with frank on Sunday?

    David Coulthard to Williams?!

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 17:41

    Guess who was spotted in the Williams motorhome having a discussion with frank on Sunday?

    Can't wait to see Jakey beating Nakajima

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:41

    David Coulthard to Williams?!

    He tested one 10 days ago.. :P

    ...but no, not him

  • RG15/07/2009 at 17:42

    He tested one 10 days ago.. :P

    It's all fitting into place now. We've caught you Mr Williams

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:42

    Do I need to write another letter?

    Looking at the pictures now it is not at all good. They are going ahead with loading the crew soon but this is the worst weather I have seen so far.

    They just repreated the list of violations and it is 6 in total.

    This will need to be a good letter.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:43

    Can't wait to see Jakey beating Nakajima

    I think next year might be his last at Williams, i think frank might want control over his drivers again and switch back to cosworth in 2011

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 17:44

    This will need to be a good letter.

    A strongly worded letter?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:46

    A strongly worded letter?

    I think so.

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 17:50

    episode 95 done and dropioed. Thank you for not making the rest of them that long :D

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:50

    episode 95 done and dropioed. Thank you for not making the rest of them that long :D

    thaaaaank you amy!

  • Amy15/07/2009 at 17:50

    thaaaaank you amy!

    now i should sleep. when did it become almost 4am?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 17:50

    episode 95 done and dropioed. Thank you for not making the rest of them that long :D

    Unbelievable!!!

  • me15/07/2009 at 17:51

    now i should sleep. when did it become almost 4am?

    sleep well.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:51

    now i should sleep. when did it become almost 4am?

    You are crazy, i did that the other day.

    Dont get a song you dont know the name of stuck in your head!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:55

    Night though, i am sure you will be please i found heikki a seat at brawn... ;)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:55

    Good night Amy

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:55

    Night though, i am sure you will be please i found heikki a seat at brawn... ;)

    Heikki isn't going to Brawn.. i wont let him (sorry again)

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:55

    night Amy!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:56

    Night though, i am sure you will be please i found heikki a seat at brawn... ;)

    I am sure she would have been happier if you had found him a seat there this year when they have a good car.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:57

    I love the Apollo XI big picture.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 17:57

    I am sure she would have been happier if you had found him a seat there this year when they have a good car.

    Thats Bernie's fault, i have only just taken over the placing of drivers ;)

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:57

    I am sure she would have been happier if you had found him a seat there this year when they have a good car.

    do you mean they wont have a good car next year???

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 17:58

    do you mean they wont have a good car next year???

    We don't know who will have a good car next year

  • lou15/07/2009 at 17:59

    We don't know who will have a good car next year

    oh right. okay :) phew i thought you were going to suggest they would be rubbish next year. :D

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:02

    oh right. okay :) phew i thought you were going to suggest they would be rubbish next year. :D

    They might be. Who would have thought McLaren and Ferrari would have been as bad this year. It may be that the problem with all the Honda designs was that they had too much weight on the front and this year's tyre rules suit that. If Bridgestone bring in the narrower tyres next year they could be back in the same mess as the earthnightmare car.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 18:02

    oh right. okay :) phew i thought you were going to suggest they would be rubbish next year. :D

    They might want to get some some sponsors if they dont want to slide into Minardi territory.

    Although if people like manor can get them i cant see why brawn cant. unless nick fry is doing something completely wrong.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 18:04

    Sidepodspace - the Beeb have a new space blog.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/jonathanamos/

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 18:04

    A quick hi. I'm not here. Doing this podcast thing in a mo, and hoping to quiz at the same time..

    question: if I got someone who is a Black Books fan the Little Book of Calm for their birthday, would they get the reference?

    They absolutely will.

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 18:04

    Although if people like manor can get them i cant see why brawn cant. unless nick fry is doing something completely wrong.

    I have the utmost faith in Nick Fry.

    Yes I am sober.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:05

    They might want to get some some sponsors if they dont want to slide into Minardi territory.

    I think they are crazy if they don't sign some major multi-year deals in the next few weeks. They may have already missed the point where their value maximised. Three races ago they were invincible and guaranteed both championships but they did not cash in on it. Now they are not worth as much because Red Bull is seen as a real threat and McLaren seem to have sorted their car.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 18:06

    They might be. Who would have thought McLaren and Ferrari would have been as bad this year. It may be that the problem with all the Honda designs was that they had too much weight on the front and this year's tyre rules suit that. If Bridgestone bring in the narrower tyres next year they could be back in the same mess as the earthnightmare car.

    okay.. so i'll continue doing what i've been doing and savour every single second of this season for Jenson and Brawn :) so i'll forget about next year till it comes around :)

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 18:06

    Sidepodspace - the Beeb have a new space blog.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/jonathanamos/

    Have you read their Tech blog lately? Usually I find Rory gets things a bit confused but the last three entries are excellent.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:08

    Sidepodspace - the Beeb have a new space blog.

    They make such a big deal about how they new toy got all the way to the ISS and docked all on its own. The Russian Progress modules have been doing that for years.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:10

    okay.. so i'll continue doing what i've been doing and savour every single second of this season for Jenson and Brawn :) so i'll forget about next year till it comes around :)

    It's like any sport. Enjoy the good times when they happen because they may never happen again.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 18:11

    They make such a big deal about how they new toy got all the way to the ISS and docked all on its own. The Russian Progress modules have been doing that for years.

    Automaticly or did they have a controller?

    I heard the european one was the first to do it on its own.

    ...although maybe they pretend the Russians dont exist...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:22

    Automaticly or did they have a controller?

    I know the Progress is unmanned. I would have thought it would be easier to do it automatically than to fly it remotely.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:26

    #sidepodspace

    Weather greatly improved. Well done Christine. We are currently down to two red weather items rather than 6.

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 18:27

    Weather greatly improved. Well done Christine. We are currently down to two red weather items rather than 6.

    I like to do my bit for the greater good.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 18:28

    The teams seem to get some great stuff on the pitwall

    Hopefully one day so will we.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 18:30

    The teams seem to get some great stuff on the pitwall

    http://www.sutton-images.com/previews/d09ger769.jpg

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:38

    #sidepodspace

    They have started loading the astronauts. The commander is getting into his seat now.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 18:39

    They have started loading the astronauts. The commander is getting into his seat now.

    How do they stop them from having all the blood go to their head after sitting down on their backs for so long?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:40

    How do they stop them from having all the blood go to their head after sitting down on their backs for so long?

    I have no idea. It can't be at all comfortable. It also can't help that the guy who dangles in that position the logest is the driver

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 18:43

    The teams seem to get some great stuff on the pitwall

    http://www.sutton-images.com/previews/d09ger769.jpg

    Looks like they could live comment from there! ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 18:43

    How do they stop them from having all the blood go to their head after sitting down on their backs for so long?

    I have no idea. It can't be at all comfortable. It also can't help that the guy who dangles in that position the logest is the driver

    Do they have G-suits like fighter pilots?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:44

    Do they have G-suits like fighter pilots?

    That would push more blood to their heads.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 18:46

    Do they have G-suits like fighter pilots?

    That would push more blood to their heads.

    An on-yer-back version perhaps?

    Did I hear correctly that they're installing a porch on the ISS? I swear that's what Canadian TV said

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:48

    Did I hear correctly that they're installing a porch on the ISS? I swear that's what Canadian TV said

    Its called the Japanese exposed module. It is a module for experiments that need to be exposed to space. It is attached to the Japanese Kibo module but I don't think they plan to use it as a porch.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 18:50

    Its called the Japanese exposed module. It is a module for experiments that need to be exposed to space. It is attached to the Japanese Kibo module but I don't think they plan to use it as a porch.

    Should they not have brought the rocking chair & Labatt's then? ;)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:52

    Should they not have brought the rocking chair & Labatt's then? ;)

    Or the Japanese equivalent

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:53

    The phase 2 lightning warning has been downgraded to a phase 1 warning.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 18:54

    Or the Japanese equivalent

    The news were raving about some Canadian Astronaut so we just presumed they were either going hunting or chillin' with some beers somewhere up there

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 18:54

    Or the Japanese equivalent

    Saporro or Kirin perhaps?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:54

    The news were raving about some Canadian Astronaut so we just presumed they were either going hunting or chillin' with some beers somewhere up there

    There is a Canadian woman on this mission

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 18:56

    The phase 2 lightning warning has been downgraded to a phase 1 warning.

    Hopefully that's a good sign

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:57

    NASA is calling it a porch in space so I guess that is where the Canadians are getting it from

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts127/overview.html

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:58

    Canadian astronaut

    http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/payette.html

  • RG15/07/2009 at 18:58

    Jackie has reminded me that the PF quiz is starting at 8pm BST tonight, ie, 2 minutes. Hurry to win.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 18:59

    Jackie has reminded me that the PF quiz is starting at 8pm BST tonight, ie, 2 minutes. Hurry to win.

    Damn. I thought I had half an hour left.

  • RG15/07/2009 at 18:59

    Damn. I thought I had half an hour left.

    So did I.

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 19:00

    Jackie has reminded me that the PF quiz is starting at 8pm BST tonight, ie, 2 minutes. Hurry to win.

    Hehe I thought it was RG or Journeyer who asked for it to be early on account of the mega-ness of 50 questions

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 19:00

    Jackie has reminded me that the PF quiz is starting at 8pm BST tonight, ie, 2 minutes. Hurry to win.

    oops! *gets there*

  • lou15/07/2009 at 19:03

    Dad's just told me Virgin offered us the chance to take part in their super, amazingly fast broad band trial today, but he wants to stick with orange apparently, even though they have cut our bandwidth :(

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:04

    Dad's just told me Virgin offered us the chance to take part in their super, amazingly fast broad band trial today, but he wants to stick with orange apparently, even though they have cut our bandwidth :(

    Doh!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 19:05

    #sidepodspace

    We are back to a phase 2 lightning warning

  • lou15/07/2009 at 19:05

    Doh!

    i know! i'm not impressed.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:06

    NASA is calling it a porch in space so I guess that is where the Canadians are getting it from

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts127/overview.html

    Too close to Pigs (or Pork) in Space for my liking

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:06

    PIGS... IN... SPAAAAAAAACE :)

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 19:06

    PIGS... IN... SPAAAAAAAACE :)

    Hahah

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:07

    #sidepodspace

    Is hash-tagging for filtering purposes these days? ;)

  • Jackie / saltire15/07/2009 at 19:08

    Is hash-tagging for filtering purposes these days? ;)

    Affirmative

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:08

    Is hash-tagging for filtering purposes these days? ;)

    Affirmative

    Like #Max

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:10

    Like #Max

    Or #Pigs in space

  • Maverick15/07/2009 at 19:10

    Is hash-tagging for filtering purposes these days?

    You should put "Is #hash-tagging for #filtering purposes these days?"

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 19:10

    Too close to Pigs (or Pork) in Space for my liking

    I loved Pigs in Space

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:10

    You should put "Is #hash-tagging for #filtering purposes these days?"

    :D

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 19:11

    Jackie has reminded me that the PF quiz is starting at 8pm BST tonight, ie, 2 minutes. Hurry to win.

    I'm late. Am doing another thing. Will be there shortly

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:11

    Dad's just told me Virgin offered us the chance to take part in their super, amazingly fast broad band trial today, but he wants to stick with orange apparently, even though they have cut our bandwidth :(

    he just doesn't want us to come live with you.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:11

    I loved Pigs in Space

    Agreed

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:11

    Jackie has reminded me that the PF quiz is starting at 8pm BST tonight, ie, 2 minutes. Hurry to win.

    oops! *gets there*

    wha? no-one told me?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:11

    he just doesn't want us to come live with you.

    Maybe he's heard about the pesky owls that follow you

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:12

    Maybe he's heard about the pesky owls that follow you

    we blow them up now.

    how long have you been away?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:14

    how long have you been away?

    A day away from the comments is enough to miss gems like that

    But, since Thursday and have only just recovered from Jet Lag which isn't cured by 1st Class it seems ;)

  • lou15/07/2009 at 19:14

    he just doesn't want us to come live with you.

    haha i'm sure he wouldn't mind, as long as you bring rose or something :P

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:15

    haha i'm sure he wouldn't mind, as long as you bring rose or something :P

    Unnamed energy drinks and milky bars?

  • lou15/07/2009 at 19:16

    Unnamed energy drinks and milky bars?

    that will suit me. i tried some of the unnamed energy drink earlier on in the week and thought it was nice :) dad wouldn't like either though, silly him.

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:16

    But, since Thursday and have only just recovered from Jet Lag which isn't cured by 1st Class it seems ;)

    there are some fun live rehearsals to catchup on when you have the time. longwinded, but all good if you have something to occupy you at the same time.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:18

    Mr C: I tried Creme de Menth shots topped with Baileys also work quite well. You should try ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:18

    there are some fun live rehearsals to catchup on when you have the time. longwinded, but all good if you have something to occupy you at the same time.

    Cool

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 19:18

    so I just spoke to Declan Brennan, and it wasn't on MWM ;-)

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 19:18

    Mr C: I tried Creme de Menth shots topped with Baileys also work quite well. You should try ;)

    Noooooooooooo, don't listen to him. Bad Bassano.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 19:19

    Mr C: I tried Creme de Menth shots topped with Baileys also work quite well. You should try ;)

    Yeeeeeucchh!!!!!!!!

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:19

    so I just spoke to Declan Brennan, and it wasn't on MWM ;-)

    coool! was he on fastmachines?

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:19

    Mr C: I tried Creme de Menth shots topped with Baileys also work quite well. You should try ;)

    you'll have to show me ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:19

    so I just spoke to Declan Brennan, and it wasn't on MWM ;-)

    Who he?

    MWM podcaster?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 19:19

    so I just spoke to Declan Brennan, and it wasn't on MWM ;-)

    coool! was he on fastmachines?

    No on another one, the new one I mentioned the other day. I believe I was terrible.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 19:19

    so I just spoke to Declan Brennan, and it wasn't on MWM ;-)

    Am I the only person round here who doesn't deal with ceelbrities?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:20

    you'll have to show me ;)

    Shh, Christine will think I'm a bad influence

    Got my mate to listen to the podcasts and he was cracking up about your Montreal shout out

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:20

    Am I the only person round here who doesn't deal with ceelbrities?

    No, I never play cards with em either. They cheat

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:21

    No on another one, the new one I mentioned the other day. I believe I was terrible.

    ahh, am sure you were cool. link us when it's published.

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:21

    Got my mate to listen to the podcasts and he was cracking up about your Montreal shout out

    what did we say?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 19:21

    so I just spoke to Declan Brennan, and it wasn't on MWM ;-)

    Who he?

    MWM podcaster?

    Yeah he's the Irish one. He spared us just over 10mins then went straight into MWM :-)

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 19:22

    No on another one, the new one I mentioned the other day. I believe I was terrible.

    ahh, am sure you were cool. link us when it's published.

    I lost my memory and had more Ummms than Alex on an indecisive day.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:22

    what did we say?

    Meet him in Montreal. He's a nice chap but he will get you drunk, he's a bad influence

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 19:22

    No, I never play cards with em either. They cheat

    Jet lag is a terrible thing

  • me15/07/2009 at 19:23

    Meet him in Montreal. He's a nice chap but he will get you drunk, he's a bad influence

    all true.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:23

    I lost my memory and had more Ummms than Alex on an indecisive day.

    That's a lot of Ummms!

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:23

    Meet him in Montreal. He's a nice chap but he will get you drunk, he's a bad influence

    all true.

    Can't argue with it either

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 19:24

    #sidepodspace

    The last astronaut is getting loaded. Who would have bet that the one woman would be ready last?

    All of the astronauts seem very up today so hopefully that is a good sign.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:24

    No, I never play cards with em either. They cheat

    Jet lag is a terrible thing

    Dealing to celebrities is best avoided when jet-lagged. Cards keep landing face up

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 19:26

    The last astronaut is getting loaded. Who would have bet that the one woman would be ready last?

    Are they playing Primal Scream as they launch, that'd be cool flying music

  • RG15/07/2009 at 20:15

    Just a thought, with Jamie coming into a race seat. Will that mean Brendon Hartley will become reserve driver again?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 20:16

    Just a thought, with Jamie coming into a race seat. Will that mean Brendon Hartley will become reserve driver again?

    Good point. No, I don't think so. I think that relationship has been well and truly cut. I think Robert Wickens will get the nod for reserve driver.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:23

    Just a thought, with Jamie coming into a race seat. Will that mean Brendon Hartley will become reserve driver again?

    Isn't Brendon RBR not STR

  • RG15/07/2009 at 20:24

    Isn't Brendon RBR not STR

    I thought he was with both.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 20:24

    Isn't Brendon RBR not STR

    He's both - RBR and STR share the same reserve driver.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:25

    He's both - RBR and STR share the same reserve driver.

    What if a Red Bull bash gives a few drivers food poisoning?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:25

    What if a Red Bull bash gives a few drivers food poisoning?

    Maybe it's like airline pilots?

    One has Chicken, one has beef

  • RG15/07/2009 at 20:25

    What if a Red Bull bash gives a few drivers food poisoning?

    They have a young driver program, they can sort it out themselves ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:27

    Why did Hartley get ditched so quickly?

  • RG15/07/2009 at 20:29

    Why did Hartley get ditched so quickly?

    They knew they were getting rid of Bourdais, realise Hartley might be a tad inexperienced, so hooked someone else up and left him in the mud.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:30

    They knew they were getting rid of Bourdais, realise Hartley might be a tad inexperienced, so hooked someone else up and left him in the mud.

    Ah

    I could've told them Bordais was going ages ago ;)

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 20:31

    Ok…heres a slightly morbid but potentially fun game…

    You’ve just saved someones life, but because you’ve saved theirs, you’re now dieing. You’re lying in front of the person you’ve saved….

    What do you say? {Comment #12}

    "Get as many helpers as possible, then all of you help save me - quick!". This would probably reduce the risk of anyone dying.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:33

    What if a Red Bull bash gives a few drivers food poisoning?

    Maybe it's like airline pilots?

    One has Chicken, one has beef

    Chicken Chaser!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:34

    Ok…heres a slightly morbid but potentially fun game…

    You’ve just saved someones life, but because you’ve saved theirs, you’re now dieing. You’re lying in front of the person you’ve saved….

    What do you say? {Comment #12}

    Hope you enjoy it you lucky b'stard?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:35

    Hope you enjoy it you lucky b'stard?

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:35

    Ok…heres a slightly morbid but potentially fun game…

    You’ve just saved someones life, but because you’ve saved theirs, you’re now dieing. You’re lying in front of the person you’ve saved….

    What do you say? {Comment #12}

    Hope you enjoy it you lucky b'stard?

    Or... That was fun wasn't it?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:36

    Ok…heres a slightly morbid but potentially fun game…

    You’ve just saved someones life, but because you’ve saved theirs, you’re now dieing. You’re lying in front of the person you’ve saved….

    What do you say? {Comment #12}

    Hope you enjoy it you lucky b'stard?

    That's the last ime I'm doing that!

  • RG15/07/2009 at 20:36

    Ok…heres a slightly morbid but potentially fun game…

    You’ve just saved someones life, but because you’ve saved theirs, you’re now dieing. You’re lying in front of the person you’ve saved….

    What do you say? {Comment #12}

    'You better be Timo or I'm dying for nothing'

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 20:36

    'You better be Timo or I'm dying for nothing'

    :D

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 20:46

    Evening all :) How are we this fine evening?

  • lou15/07/2009 at 20:48

    Evening all :) How are we this fine evening?

    i'm alright thanks, just given up on the pf quiz,and am not thinking of blog names.. how are you this evening?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:49

    Evening all :) How are we this fine evening?

    s'alright. Just blogging a funny thing that happened to me the other day...

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:50

    i'm alright thanks, just given up on the pf quiz,and am not thinking of blog names..

    Getting a blog Lou? ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 20:50

    i'm alright thanks, just given up on the pf quiz,and am not thinking of blog names.. how are you this evening?

    Argh, the quiz! I totally forgot! :(

    Apart from that, I've very well. Mum's doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she's just found out she's anaemic as well.

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 20:50

    That was impossible. I'm glad I knew the jean alesi question though. 1 is a good target.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:51

    Apart from that, I've very well. Mum's doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she's just found out she's anaemic as well.

    Hope she recovers soon, my friend was laid up for about 5 days last week

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 20:51

    "Get as many helpers as possible, then all of you help save me - quick!". This would probably reduce the risk of anyone dying.

    Wouldnt you die alone while the person went to get the helpers?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 20:52

    Hope she recovers soon, my friend was laid up for about 5 days last week

    She's alright at the moment, according to her she just aches a lot and has a very dry and sore throat.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 20:52

    Getting a blog Lou? ;)

    it's possible. i need a name though, and i'm rubbish at names.

  • RG15/07/2009 at 20:52

    Apart from that, I've very well. Mum's doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she's just found out she's anaemic as well.

    I had anaemia a few years back, not eating enough iron. Hope she gets better.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:53

    it's possible. i need a name though, and i'm rubbish at names.

    What's it's subject matter?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:53

    Apart from that, I've very well. Mum's doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she's just found out she's anaemic as well.

    Hope she recovers soon, my friend was laid up for about 5 days last week

    Don't worry about the swine flu, most doctors say that you will be allright in about a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:53

    I had anaemia a few years back, not eating enough iron. Hope she gets better.

    Guinness is good for you

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 20:53

    it's possible. i need a name though, and i'm rubbish at names.

    How about Photo Finish? Covers photography AND racing all in one.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:53

    Apart from that, I've very well. Mum's doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she's just found out she's anaemic as well.

    I had anaemia a few years back, not eating enough iron. Hope she gets better.

    Eat more red meat?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 20:53

    Apart from that, I've very well. Mum's doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she's just found out she's anaemic as well.

    It'll pass I'm sure. MWM was talking about being anaemic because a bike rider is, recommends Guinness and liver.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 20:53

    What's it's subject matter?

    just a general one atm i should think. so anything and everything :D

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:53

    Don't worry about the swine flu, most doctors say that you will be allright in about a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek ;)

    The Wine Flu email going around made me laugh

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 20:54

    Eat more red meat?

    They're giving her iron tablets for 3 weeks and then after that they'll see how she is.

    It'll pass I'm sure. MWM was talking about being anaemic because a bike rider is, recommends Guinness and liver.

    Ah yes, Casey Stoner. I did read about that on AUTOSPORT.

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 20:54

    How about Photo Finish? Covers photography AND racing all in one.

    Thats excellent.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:55

    Eat more red meat?

    They're giving her iron tablets for 3 weeks and then after that they'll see how she is.

    It'll pass I'm sure. MWM was talking about being anaemic because a bike rider is, recommends Guinness and liver.

    Ah yes, Casey Stoner. I did read about that on AUTOSPORT.

    I wondered if he had an ulcer like Sir Jackie did...

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:55

    just a general one atm i should think. so anything and everything :D

    Lou's Blog?

    Blog Off

    What the Blog

    [This could go on for a while]

  • lou15/07/2009 at 20:55

    How about Photo Finish? Covers photography AND racing all in one.

    aha that's awesome!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:55

    It'll pass I'm sure. MWM was talking about being anaemic because a bike rider is, recommends Guinness and liver.

    Dex doing his bit for the Emerald Isle again, I see ;)

  • RG15/07/2009 at 20:55

    just a general one atm i should think. so anything and everything :D

    How about 'The Northern Waffler'

    no, thats mine, 'Thoughts of a Trying Athiest' (Awesome blog, I reccomend)

    no, thats lukeh. got it, 'Too Much Racing' (Also, awesome) ah man, thats taken

    Meh, I'm no good, I like Photo Finish

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 20:56

    It'll pass I'm sure. MWM was talking about being anaemic because a bike rider is, recommends Guinness and liver.

    Guinness & Liver don't go well together

    Guinness & Steak pie perhaps

  • RG15/07/2009 at 20:56

    They're giving her iron tablets for 3 weeks and then after that they'll see how she is.

    I got something similar

  • lou15/07/2009 at 20:57

    [This could go on for a while]

    haha :D

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 20:58

    Lous fantastic Yuletide blog

    (might get more traffic in December ;) )

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 20:58

    #sidepodspace update

    1 hour 5 minutes to launch and all weather constraints are green.

    Good job Christine

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 20:59

    Lou's bla bla bla bla blog?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 21:00

    Lou's bla bla bla bla blog?

    :D

  • lou15/07/2009 at 21:00

    Meh, I'm no good, I like Photo Finish

    yeah me too :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 21:01

    Lou's bla bla bla bla blog?

    Problem is, Rubens would never read it :(

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 21:02

    Problem is, Rubens would never read it :(

    coughTwittercough

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:02

    Meh, I'm no good, I like Photo Finish

    yeah me too :)

    Nab it NOW!

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:02

    Problem is, Rubens would never read it :(

    You never know. Apparently drivers do read blogs occasionally.

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:03

    coughTwittercough

    He still wouldn't, he doesn';t want to hear this blah bla blah remember

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 21:03

    You never know. Apparently drivers do read blogs occasionally.

    ;) :D

  • lou15/07/2009 at 21:03

    Nab it NOW!

    you know i'm not buying a domain right? maybe if i get into blogging, but to start with it will be a free wordpress blog :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 21:03

    Problem is, Rubens would never read it :(

    You never know. Apparently drivers do read blogs occasionally.

    No because all Lou would say would be bla bla bla and he dont wanna hear it, remember?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 21:04

    Nab it NOW!

    you know i'm not buying a domain right? maybe if i get into blogging, but to start with it will be a free wordpress blog :)

    Worked for James Allen...

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:04

    No because all Lou would say would be bla bla bla and he dont wanna hear it, remember?

    Yes. Sorry. I did get it, I just wanted an excuse to talk about Franck again.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 21:04

    No because all Lou would say would be bla bla bla and he dont wanna hear it, remember?

    i would never do anything to upset Rubens... :)

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:04

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS

    Bernie needs a new track for next years german gp

    Why not a layout like this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS

  • lou15/07/2009 at 21:04

    Yes. Sorry. I did get it, I just wanted an excuse to talk about Franck again.

    ehehe :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 21:05

    No because all Lou would say would be bla bla bla and he dont wanna hear it, remember?

    Yes. Sorry. I did get it, I just wanted an excuse to talk about Franck again.

    Has he replied yet?

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 21:06

    Why is it so hard to decline birthday cream cakes without offending the birthday celebrant? {Comment #179}

    Because they're gifts and people hate their gifts being declined, especially when it's "their" day.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 21:06

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS

    Bernie needs a new track for next years german gp

    Why not a layout like this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS

    The last race there had to be cancelled due to a fatal accident and the track doesn't exist anymore apparently...

  • lou15/07/2009 at 21:06

    booo!! photofinish.wordpress.com already exists :(

  • Kathi15/07/2009 at 21:06

    Worked for James Allen...

    grrr

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:07

    The last race there had to be cancelled due to a fatal accident and the track doesn't exist anymore apparently...

    I thought they had a DTM race at Avus a few years ago

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:07

    booo!! photofinish.wordpress.com already exists :(

    What about photofinishblog or thephotofinish?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:07

    The last race there had to be cancelled due to a fatal accident and the track doesn't exist anymore apparently...

    Got cut up when the Berlin Wall came up, if I'm not mistaken.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:07

    booo!! photofinish.wordpress.com already exists :(

    Pretend you are Amy and call it photofinnish

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 21:08

    What about photofinishblog or thephotofinish?

    lou'sphotofinish?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:08

    I thought they had a DTM race at Avus a few years ago

    Wikipedia says they raced on a shortened version. That also ended on safety grounds.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:08

    Got cut up when the Berlin Wall came up, if I'm not mistaken.

    Wikipedia says it wasn't. Oops. :D

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:09

    They could build a new one... would make an interesting contrast

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 21:09

    They could build a new one... would make an interesting contrast

    Hmm a Tilke-AVUS ring. Funny!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:10

    Wikipedia says they raced on a shortened version. That also ended on safety grounds.

    It was an insane circuit as mentioned on my guest post on Bernd Rosemeyer

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:10

    Are their any spiral racetracks?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:11

    #sidepodspace

    They have just announced that the primary trans-Atlantic abort site will be Moron in Spain with Zaragoza as the back up.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:11

    Hmm a Tilke-AVUS ring. Funny!

    AVUS & Ring don't belong in the same sentence

    Too many puns

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:12

    The last race there had to be cancelled due to a fatal accident and the track doesn't exist anymore apparently...

    I thought they had a DTM race at Avus a few years ago

    Yes but that didn't include the banked section, IIRC

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:12

    Are their any spiral racetracks?

    I,m still awaiting the first track with loop the loops, waterfalls, walls of fire and jumps through hoops of fire. tilke's got it in his mad mind of his Im sure of it

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:13

    I,m still awaiting the first track with loop the loops, waterfalls, walls of fire and jumps through hoops of fire. tilke's got it in his mad mind of his Im sure of it

    Only in the Red Bull air races

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 21:14

    FIA president Max Mosley has confirmed that he will definitely not stand again in October’s election, AUTOSPORT has learned, {Comment #270}

    How many hours before Max goes back on his decision again?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:15

    50 minutes to launch and all systems are go. The only negative is the third trans-Atlantic abort site at Istres in France is not useable due to weather but that is not a show stopper.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:15

    How many hours before Max goes back on his decision again?

    I don't think he's going back on this one - he's endorsed Todt.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:15

    FIA president Max Mosley has confirmed that he will definitely not stand again in October’s election, AUTOSPORT has learned, {Comment #270}

    How many hours before Max goes back on his decision again?

    Max is just a big fat liar and needs flame retardent under crackers

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:16

    I don't think he's going back on this one - he's endorsed Todt.

    Ari FTW!

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:16

    I don't think he's going back on this one - he's endorsed Todt.

    Ari FTW!

    Not necessarily. I was told today that Ari and Toad go back a long way.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:17

    Superspiral race track.

    Bridge in green, pits in yellow

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/superspiral-bmp

    Can be run in both directions :P

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:17

    Not necessarily. I was told today that Ari and Toad go back a long way.

    Anyone but Toad, I'm with Mr Saward on this one

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:17

    I don't think he's going back on this one - he's endorsed Todt.

    He's the puppet master, Todt is just the puppet.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:17

    Not necessarily. I was told today that Ari and Toad go back a long way.

    But they're competing AGAINST each other.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:18

    He's the puppet master, Todt is just the puppet.

    But, hey, Max isn't running.

    And that's assuming Todt even wins...

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:18

    Superspiral race track.

    That is genius

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:19

    But, hey, Max isn't running.

    And that's assuming Todt even wins...

    How solid is the democratic ethic at the FIA?

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:19

    How solid is the democratic ethic at the FIA?

    We're about to find out.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 21:20

    And that's assuming Todt even wins...

    Alright, seriously (nothing funny here), who here would vote for Todt?...

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:21

    We're about to find out.

    Max already won the vote of confidence this year, I think we know already

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:22

    Not necessarily. I was told today that Ari and Toad go back a long way.

    That isn't really true. Ari drove for him at Peugeot and before that competed against him. If they were close they would not be challenging each other.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:22

    That isn't really true. Ari drove for him at Peugeot and before that competed against him. If they were close they would not be challenging each other.

    Agreed.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:23

    How solid is the democratic ethic at the FIA?

    Solid as soup

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:23

    Max already won the vote of confidence this year, I think we know already

    I think this is different in that Max isn't competing, and that there is now a more credible candidate against his endorsee Todt.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:23

    Solid as soup

    Precisely

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 21:24

    How solid is the democratic ethic at the FIA?

    Solid as soup

    Pumpkin soup is quite solid you know ;)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 21:25
  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:25

    Pumpkin soup is quite solid you know ;)

    As is soup in a can

    If you keep it in the can

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:25

    I think this is different in that Max isn't competing, and that there is now a more credible candidate against his endorsee Todt.

    Max was Bernie's boy abd so is Todt. No difference

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:26

    Max was Bernie's boy abd so is Todt. No difference

    Different in the sense that the delegates might actually vote Ari through.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:28

    Tired. Need to zone out to something.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:31

    So apparently, it's ok to fly an empty plane to a far-away country that allows insect disinfestation because to do it in the home country is not good for the environment, according the EU

    [This is all theoretical, obviously]

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:31

    Designing circuits is awesome...

    I have done another... http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/track-2-jpg

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:31

    Designing circuits is awesome...

    I tend to doodle random tracks during my lectures... no idea why...

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:32

    Designing circuits is awesome...

    I have done another... http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/track-2-jpg

    Ooh, Snetterton crossed with Bahrain?

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:32

    Designing circuits is awesome...

    I have done another... http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/track-2-jpg

    I like it, other than the sharp right hander at the start.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:33

    I like it, other than the sharp right hander at the start.

    Its a saftey requirement i think

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:33

    I like it, other than the sharp right hander at the start.

    I think the sharp one is the pitlane and the curvy one is the track?

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:33

    Its a saftey requirement i think

    It is? I would have thought more accidents occur that way :P

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:34

    I think the sharp one is the pitlane and the curvy one is the track?

    Sharp one is the track, could be smothed out a bit, but i think it has to be a slow corner...

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:34

    I tend to doodle random tracks during my lectures... no idea why...

    Finaly a use for MS paint!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:34

    Ooh, Snetterton crossed with Bahrain?

    hehe, i dont know bahrain.

    I did sneak in a mini version of turkey turn 8

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:35

    Sharp one is the track, could be smothed out a bit, but i think it has to be a slow corner...

    Ah I see what your getting at, definatly needs smoothing out I think.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:37

    #sidepodspace

    25 minutes to go and it looks like we are flying tonight

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:37

    I want this to be a track

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/track-jpg

    It even has a key

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:38

    25 minutes to go and it looks like we are flying tonight

    You're welcome.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:38

    Quiz results about to be announced.

    I know I am not winning.

  • RG15/07/2009 at 21:38

    Designing circuits is awesome...

    ahem

    http://www.quikmaps.co.uk

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Quikmaps

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:39

    You're welcome.

    You have to get it off the ground first. Anything can happen in the next half hour

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:39

    Ok i tidied up turn 1 and added numbers.

    Anyone fancy naming the corners of the sidepodring?

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sidepodring-jpg

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:40

    ahem

    Wow...

    Shame i cant put that track anywhere...

  • RG15/07/2009 at 21:40

    Anyone fancy naming the corners of the sidepodring?

    1 - Timo Turn

    2 - The Super Duper Glock Turn

    3 - The one where Timo Goes For the Lead, Turn

    Actually, I might be biased

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:41

    So apparently, it's ok to fly an empty plane to a far-away country that allows insect disinfestation because to do it in the home country is not good for the environment, according the EU

    [This is all theoretical, obviously]

    And people think the EU should have more power!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:41

    I like 1.

    That can stay :P

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 21:41

    I didn’t know Max had retired. I wonder how long he has retired for. I assume that so many people will ask him to unretire that he will have no choice but to comply. {Comment #494}

    He's already said he has to be in the FIA after October as an automatic member of the FIA Senate, so I guess he won't retire even if he's speaking the truth about stepping down from his post.

  • RG15/07/2009 at 21:42

    That can stay :P

    I like it as well, its rolls off the tounge

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:42

    You have to get it off the ground first. Anything can happen in the next half hour

    Oh. *ahem* if it goes up, come back and read that comment. If it doesn't, let's pretend it never happened.

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:42

    Anyone fancy naming the corners of the sidepodring?

    Turn Panda ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:42

    Anyone fancy naming the corners of the sidepodring?

    Will one of them be Piquet's Nemesis?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:43

    Turn Panda ;)

    Maybe turn 4?

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:43

    Ooh, I just had an email saying the new omnibus transitions made listening much easier (yay) but I know for a fact it was Bassano who specifically asked for this first.

    So, BC - have you listened yet and is it better?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:43

    Will one of them be Piquet's Nemesis?

    Turn 8 :P

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:43

    Will one of them be Piquet's Nemesis?

    That can be said of any corner.

    Maybe turn 4?

    Up to you :)

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:44

    Turn 8 :P

    Turn 1 ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:45

    Ooh, I just had an email saying the new omnibus transitions made listening much easier (yay) but I know for a fact it was Bassano who specifically asked for this first.

    So, BC - have you listened yet and is it better?

    If it's what I think it is then it sounds great. I've downloaded but not listened, am WAY behind since iPhone is not hooked up in car yet. Will check now

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:45

    You have to get it off the ground first. Anything can happen in the next half hour

    Love the reference :-)

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:45

    Anyone fancy naming the corners of the sidepodring?

    1) Mr C-bring

    2) Debrief Debriefer

    3) Don't Panic Turn

    4) Mr Blobby

    5) Firefox's Awesome Bar Sucks

    6) Barely a Corner Corner

    7) Woodwiss Woot

    8) The Giggles

    9) This Looks Like The Most Fun Corner

    10) Not quite turn 11

    11) This is turn 11

    12) Franckly My Dear...

    13) I AM NOT HERE

    14) Turn Right into the Pits for a Magnum

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:45

    Love the reference :-)

    Stingray

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:46

    I was second to last in the quiz.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:46

    Stingray

    du du duhh du duhh du

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:46

    5) Firefox's Awesome Bar Sucks

    How could you Lukeh?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:46

    17 minutes to go and green lights all the way

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:47

    How could you Lukeh?

    It is simply underwhelming and is lacking the level of awesome the name explains. I assumed that was also a corner that should be awesome but is merly average.

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:48

    It is simply underwhelming and is lacking the level of awesome the name explains. I assumed that was also a corner that should be awesome but is merly average.

    I remember when you thought it was awesome :P

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:48

    I remember when you thought it was awesome :P

    At least it's not IE

  • RG15/07/2009 at 21:48

    I failed to get the wooden spoon in the quiz. Awful. Really disapointed.

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:48

    I remember when you thought it was awesome :P

    Good times were had and awesome bars were awesome.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 21:48

    Hehe thats awesome lukeh!

    Will add some of them... Do wee need a (sorry amy) corner?

    ...for heikki to go off at? ;)

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 21:48

    5) Firefox's Awesome Bar Sucks

    How about Five Pints of Awesome?

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:49

    I beat my target of 1 in the quiz by 43.5 marks. Impressive.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:49

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/track-jpg-2

    mine has an oval

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 21:49

    But he already turned down those asking him to unretire… {Comment #496}

    Unless he's milking requests - or awaiting some conveniently-timed crisis that "requires" his presence as President...

  • Scott Woodwiss15/07/2009 at 21:49

    I beat my target of 1 in the quiz by 43.5 marks. Impressive.

    Who's won?

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:49

    How about Five Pints of Awesome?

    even better! Just needed somewhere to get some advertising in I reckon. Albeit negative advertising!

  • RG15/07/2009 at 21:49

    ...for heikki to go off at? ;)

    Turns 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ,6 , 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14.

    Yet to forgive him for not letting Timo past at his home race, inconsiderate.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:50

    I beat my target of 1 in the quiz by 43.5 marks. Impressive.

    I did get 43.5 in total.

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:50

    Who's won?

    journeyer and mav tied... tiebreaker now...

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:50

    I did get 43.5 in total.

    I got 44.5. Jean alesi came in handy then

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 21:51

    journeyer and mav tied... tiebreaker now...

    journeyer and pitmonster, even. Looks like pitmonster won on the tiebreaker!

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:51

    So, BC - have you listened yet and is it better?

    Great transition between episodes so far. Thanks!

    Note: It's Glass Reinforced Plastic, I think [Chapter 2 - The Car]

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:52

    10 minutes to go. All flight controllers have just been polled and all o them said go for launch

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:53

    Note: It's Glass Reinforced Plastic, I think [Chapter 2 - The Car]

    This one?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fiber_reinforced_polymer

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:54

    This one?

    I sit corrected ;)

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:54

    I sit corrected ;)

    I imagine there is all kinds of reinforced nonsense out there though.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:55

    I imagine there is all kinds of reinforced nonsense out there though.

    That is quite true

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 21:55

    If I had a team I would totally pick drivers based on whether they were “thoroughly good blokes.”

    My team would probably be rubbish. {Comment #567}

    Depends. You'd probably have to include Vettel in the line-up if done on that basis, and anyone who thinks he's rubbish has been living under a rock and/or ignorant of Sebastian's progress for the last 18 months...

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 21:57

    I reckon NASA TV need that guy from the Red Arrows commentating on them. He at least makes complex stuff sound exciting.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:57

    Orbiter access arm being retracted. They are going to fly

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:58

    My circuit, complete with modifications made by Tilke that resulted in the circuit never being the same.

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/circuit-jpg

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:58

    I reckon NASA TV need that guy from the Red Arrows commentating on them. He at least makes complex stuff sound exciting.

    I think we should take over the channel. NASA TV are hopeless

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:58

    Orbiter access arm being retracted. They are going to fly

    Porch Launch imminent?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:58

    My circuit, complete with modifications made by Tilke that resulted in the circuit never being the same.

    I always preferred the old layout.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:58

    Porch Launch imminent?

    Yep

  • me15/07/2009 at 21:59

    you all watching this:

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/spacevidcast

    ?

  • James15/07/2009 at 21:59

    I always preferred the old layout.

    Hehe, for those who couldn't tell the red lines are the new circuit, the black is the old ;)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 21:59

    http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 21:59

    Porch Launch imminent?

    Yep

    If there's an emergency does it become Porch 911

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 21:59

    you all watching this:

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/spacevidcast

    ?

    spacevidcast is just a ripoff isn't it

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 22:00

    you all watching this:

    Why is it leaking smoke already?

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:00

    spacevidcast is just a ripoff isn't it

    it works on a mac though. unlike nasa.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:00

    My video is about a minute and a half behind the actual countdown which is at 2 min 30

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 22:01

    Why is it leaking smoke already?

    It's meant to do that, stops it blowing up or something.

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 22:01

    it works on a mac though. unlike nasa.

    Working fine for me.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 22:01

    journeyer and pitmonster, even. Looks like pitmonster won on the tiebreaker!

    Well done, PM! But here's the better news:

    We both get t-shirts from Kathi! Woohoo!

    Thank youuuuu, Kathi! :D Thanks for Salti and Mav too for setting this up. Twas amazing! :)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:01

    it works on a mac though. unlike nasa.

    opens in Quicktime for me

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:01

    Working fine for me.

    boo.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:01

    Why is it leaking smoke already?

    It always does that. It's not smoke. It will be oxygen or similar

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 22:01

    It's meant to do that, stops it blowing up or something.

    Ah. I spose that's alright then.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:02

    spacevidcast is just a ripoff isn't it

    it works on a mac though. unlike nasa.

    No I was meaning the name.

    Ta for the link, I'm on it too now, bigger than the official one

  • RG15/07/2009 at 22:02

    Thank youuuuu, Kathi! :D Thanks for Salti and Mav too for setting this up. Twas amazing! :)

    Only get 4 points from this quiz, i wanted the wooden spoon :(

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 22:02

    boo.

    It's a Quicktime feed I think.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:02

    1 minute to go

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:02

    It's a Quicktime feed I think.

    There are lots of options.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:02

    they really get excited about the pre-launch tea dont they?

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:02

    No I was meaning the name.

    aahhh :)

  • RG15/07/2009 at 22:02

    Anyways, see ya all beyond the blue Honda.

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 22:04

    Only get 4 points from this quiz, i wanted the wooden spoon :(

    Or the glass mug, in this case. ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:04

    they really get excited about the pre-launch tea dont they?

    Maybe they get biscuits too

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:04

    Porch is go

  • lou15/07/2009 at 22:05

    Anyways, see ya all beyond the blue Honda.

    beyond the blue honda?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:06

    Ive won a mug! this is awesome!

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 22:06

    He raced as a Finn when he was in GP2, but had to change to Germany for F1 for some rule about passports or which country endorses your super license or something or rather that I read and promptly forgot. {Comment #610}

    That rule applies to all FIA series, not just F1. However, as a dual national, Nico was entitled to use either. According to F1 Racing (June 2006 edition), Keke Rosberg thought that Germany would be the better one to use for F1 for marketing reasons. I have no idea about the GP2 bit.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:06

    Oh noes

    I'm getting intermittant Bluetooth Mouse failure

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:07

    Porch is go

    all happens a bit quick doesn't it?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:07

    Anyone who has trouble getting the NASA TV link I posted to work should go to the right of the picture and choose the Other Viewing Options tab and you can have a range of players

  • RG15/07/2009 at 22:07

    beyond the blue honda?

    See you on the other side of Honda. Clever thing I made up of saying goodnight. Honda goodnight, Brawn good morning? Clever, no, didn't think so.

    I'm losing it.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:07

    beyond the blue honda?

    Power of dreams reference from the ad?

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:08

    See you on the other side of Honda. Clever thing I made up of saying goodnight. Honda goodnight, Brawn good morning? Clever, no, didn't think so.

    i like it!

  • Journeyer15/07/2009 at 22:08

    all happens a bit quick doesn't it?

    they go up darn quick, too. :D

    oh well, back to bed for me. night!

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 22:08

    I like that we get to hear all the radio. This is such a new concept for me.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:09

    I have to say Christine did a great job in getting the shuttle launched. They have now been told that they cannot return to Florida after 4 minutes.

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:09

    I like that we get to hear all the radio. This is such a new concept for me.

    we need holly taking all over it.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 22:09

    See you on the other side of Honda. Clever thing I made up of saying goodnight. Honda goodnight, Brawn good morning? Clever, no, didn't think so.

    hahaha :D love it! :D

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:09

    I like that we get to hear all the radio. This is such a new concept for me.

    :D

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:09

    I like that we get to hear all the radio. This is such a new concept for me.

    We get this on every launch. You must have seen a launch before

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:09

    Here's mine: What Tilke would have done to Brands Hatch :D

  • lou15/07/2009 at 22:10

    oh well, back to bed for me. night!

    night Journeyer!

  • James15/07/2009 at 22:10

    Here's mine: What Tilke would have done to Brands Hatch :D

    I like it :D

    I'm going to keep doing more, its fun :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:10

    THey have switched the trans-Atlantic abort site to Zaragoza

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 22:11

    We get this on every launch. You must have seen a launch before

    I saw a bit of one, but I don't think I listened much past the whole "liftoff" thing.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:11

    Lou should call her blog beyond the Blue Honda since that is Brawn

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:11

    Here's mine: What Tilke would have done to Brands Hatch :D

    Ha ha

    Is the answer, ruined it?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:11

    I saw a bit of one, but I don't think I listened much past the whole "liftoff" thing.

    It would be a lot better if they had someone better explaining it.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:12

    Here's mine: What Tilke would have done to Brands Hatch :D

    Ha ha

    Is the answer, ruined it?

    Well do you like it? It's got all the Tilke elements in and about 10% of the original track ;)

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 22:12

    It would be a lot better if they had someone better explaining it.

    Things like "confirms main engine cutoff" do not sound good to me. But no one seems worried.

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 22:13

    I remember him being hyped as a future world champion pretty early in his career because he scored one point or something {Comment #615}

    Two points and fastest lap, Bahrain 2006.

    Still not the sort of thing which would suggest world championship candidature on its own, but I suppose the media takes what it can and builds stories on it.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:13

    Well do you like it? It's got all the Tilke elements in and about 10% of the original track ;)

    Sounds perfect then

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:13

    Things like "confirms main engine cutoff" do not sound good to me. But no one seems worried.

    The main engine only burn for a short while. They don't get much mileage out of premium fuel either

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:13

    Things like "confirms main engine cutoff" do not sound good to me. But no one seems worried.

    oh. they put the camera on the wrong bit.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 22:13

    Lou should call her blog beyond the Blue Honda since that is Brawn

    am going to stick with photo finish for a bit ;) just to get me into the swing of blogging. if i find myself talking too much about brawn or f1 then i may use that.... *makes not of it.*

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:13

    PF chat won't let me say goodbye to those there..

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:14

    oh. they put the camera on the wrong bit.

    Doh

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:14

    oh. they put the camera on the wrong bit.

    The camera is on the tank. I am sure we had this same conversation th last time

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:14

    am going to stick with photo finish for a bit

    Thought that was taken?

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:14

    The camera is on the tank. I am sure we had this same conversation th last time

    was it before yesterday?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:14

    I like that we get to hear all the radio. This is such a new concept for me.

    we need holly taking all over it.

    Everybody's dead Dave?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:15

    was it before yesterday?

    I am pretty certain there wasn't a launch yesterday.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:15

    Here's mine: What Tilke would have done to Brands Hatch :D

    Nice :-)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:15

    Everybody's dead Dave?

    Kochanski is dead?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:15

    Everybody's dead Dave?

    :D

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 22:16

    The camera is on the tank. I am sure we had this same conversation th last time

    Where does the tank go?

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 22:16

    Everybody's dead Dave?

    hehe

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:16

    was it before yesterday?

    Is this like having last wednesday again?

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 22:16

    Where does the tank go?

    It burns up in the atmosphere.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:17

    Where does the tank go?

    Into the sea where it is recovered. Before that the solid rocket boosters were jetisoned into the sea about 2 minutes into the flight

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:18

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sidepodring-jpg

    All corners named apart from turn 11

    Any ideas?

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 22:18

    Any ideas?

    This one goes up to 11

  • Christine15/07/2009 at 22:18

    Into the sea where it is recovered. Before that the solid rocket boosters were jetisoned into the sea about 2 minutes into the flight

    Ah yes, I spotted that. Bits flying about all over the place!

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 22:19

    There is some austrian guy in GP2 pretending to be from the UAE {Comment #628}

    Yes, I giggled at bit when I saw Andeas Zuber's licence situation during my primer research. I still don't understand how he ended up with the UAE license...

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:19

    i like that for all their billions, nasa have graphics that look like a spectrum simulator.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:19

    Ah yes, I spotted that. Bits flying about all over the place!

    As soon as it is dead weight ecplosive bolts get fired and it is dumped.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:20

    This one goes up to 11

    Im trying to avoid numbers

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:20

    Im trying to avoid numbers

    But i thought about F11 ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:20

    i like that for all their billions, nasa have graphics that look like a spectrum simulator.

    Probably is

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 22:21

    Im trying to avoid numbers

    Call turn 11 'Spinal Trap'... as it should have a gravel trap, as well as reference the 11 joke from spinal tap. Win win.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:21

    i like that for all their billions, nasa have graphics that look like a spectrum simulator.

    That has been my argument about NASA TV. If you need the taxpayer to fund you budget then NASA TV is your best sales tool. Imagine what our little community could do with the money they wasted on setting up a launch attempt with only 40% chance of success. Can you imagine the programs and graphics we could put together for that budget?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:22

    Call turn 11 'Spinal Trap'... as it should have a gravel trap, as well as reference the 11 joke from spinal tap. Win win.

    I like that

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:22

    Can you imagine the programs and graphics we could put together for that budget?

    24/7 365.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:22

    Call turn 11 'Spinal Trap'... as it should have a gravel trap, as well as reference the 11 joke from spinal tap. Win win.

    It is also a tight but fast-looking corner so it'll play havoc with your spine

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 22:23

    It is also a tight but fast-looking corner so it'll play havoc with your spine

    win win win

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:23

    That has been my argument about NASA TV. If you need the taxpayer to fund you budget then NASA TV is your best sales tool. Imagine what our little community could do with the money they wasted on setting up a launch attempt with only 40% chance of success. Can you imagine the programs and graphics we could put together for that budget?

    Can you imagine how many eeepcs we could have had?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:23

    24/7 365.

    That's a lot of energy drinks in a year

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:23

    Can you imagine how many eeepcs we could have had?

    :D

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:23

    Can you imagine how many eeepcs we could have had?

    :D

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:23

    24/7 365.

    Exactly and every hour of it better than they produce

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:24

    win win win

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sidepodring2-jpg

    :D

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:24

    Do I want to know what an eepc is or am I better off in blissful ignorance?

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:24
  • James15/07/2009 at 22:24
  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 22:25

    http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sidepodring2-jpg

    the best circuit.... in the world.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:25

    win win win

    Turn 9 doesn't seem to have a name

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:25

    You missed turn 9?

    Its an homage to tuen 8

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:25
  • me15/07/2009 at 22:25

    Do I want to know what an eepc is or am I better off in blissful ignorance?

    small laptop. usually passively cooled, and useful to us because it's near silent.

  • James15/07/2009 at 22:25

    Its an homage to tuen 8

    Ah I see, :lol:

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:26

    Do I want to know what an eepc is or am I better off in blissful ignorance?

    Small laptop

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:26

    Maybe MrsC's corner should be first. Jussayin'.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:26

    Its an homage to tuen 8

    or turn even ;)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:26

    Do I want to know what an eepc is or am I better off in blissful ignorance?

    All you need to know is Gavin didn't like them then he did and MrC wants 4 so he can copy Leo, I mean so he can have separate Skype channels but Christine said no.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:27

    Maybe MrsC's corner should be first. Jussayin'.

    oops... I thought she would like to be closer to the panda though

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:27

    Its an homage to tuen 8

    Obvious. I should have known that.

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:27

    Do I want to know what an eepc is or am I better off in blissful ignorance?

    small laptop. usually passively cooled, and useful to us because it's near silent.

    Ah ok. In that case I want one.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:27

    Ah ok. In that case I want one.

    Get a Linux one ;)

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:27

    Ah ok. In that case I want one.

    not much bigger than a mug though:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/05/travelling-light/

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:28

    Do I want to know what an eepc is or am I better off in blissful ignorance?

    All you need to know is Gavin didn't like them then he did and MrC wants 4 so he can copy Leo, I mean so he can have separate Skype channels but Christine said no.

    Makes perfect sense.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:28

    Do I want to know what an eepc is or am I better off in blissful ignorance?

    All you need to know is Gavin didn't like them then he did and MrC wants 4 so he can copy Leo, I mean so he can have separate Skype channels but Christine said no.

    And that the Acer Aspire One kicks it's A*** like Alonso vs. Piquet!

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:29

    Ah ok. In that case I want one.

    Get a Linux one ;)

    Um Bongo?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:30

    Am I the only person who thought the shuttle smoke looked phallic?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:31

    Ah ok. In that case I want one.

    not much bigger than a mug though:

    http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/05/travelling-light/

    I'm sure I'll find a use for it. Come to think of it my mate (the techie guy who gave/sold me those bits) goes on about them a lot. I ignore him a lot on the techie stuff.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:31

    Ah ok. In that case I want one.

    Get a Linux one ;)

    Um Bongo?

    They blog it in the Congo...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:31

    I guess that is the last we are going to see of the shuttle tonight. They really should be able to follow it up further or give us the driver' view.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:31

    Um Bongo?

    Isn't that a drink in the jungle?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:31

    Um Bongo?

    Isn't that a drink in the jungle?

    It is also what people I know call Ubuntu.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:32

    I guess that is the last we are going to see of the shuttle tonight. They really should be able to follow it up further or give us the driver' view.

    Black?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:32

    I guess that is the last we are going to see of the shuttle tonight. They really should be able to follow it up further or give us the driver' view.

    What about a super-slow-mo cam like in FP2?

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:33

    Black?

    It can't just be black

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:33

    It is also what people I know call Ubuntu.

    Ah ok

    Pass. There are Linux EeePC's or Winblows XP

    I know which I'd prefer

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:33

    What about a super-slow-mo cam like in FP2?

    Thermocam should be good

  • James15/07/2009 at 22:34

    What about a super-slow-mo cam like in FP2?

    Thermocam should be good

    thermo super slow-mo?

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:34

    Pass. There are Linux EeePC's or Winblows XP

    neither.

    usually the linux version installed by default is awful. whatever you buy you have to wipe it and install ubunutu (umbongo) anyhow.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:35

    The shuttle and the station can be tracked at http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/tracking/index.html

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:35

    I know which I'd prefer

    oops. meant to reply to that bit...

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:35

    Pass. There are Linux EeePC's or Winblows XP

    neither.

    usually the linux version installed by default is awful. whatever you buy you have to wipe it and install ubunutu (umbongo) anyhow.

    the EeeeeePC is very slow though...

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 22:35

    Why is no one calling for Fisichella to be sacked from force india?

    Surely he is more deserving of it than PK? {Comment #660}

    Some of the Portuguese-language Twitterers are calling for Fisichella to be removed from Force India (albeit at the end of the season, not at this precise moment).

    However, Giancarlo has been instrumental in giving the team a reference point and still tends to do better more consistently than Adrian. It's all very well getting headline-grabbing stints, but Adrian has been beaten in the championship by Giancarlo for the last two seasons and Giancarlo has missed out on several points finishes (as against Adrian missing out on three total since the start of 2008). Put simply, Force India still need Giancarlo there in 2010. I think they'd be better off with Adrian than Tonio as the other driver, but I'm not sure exactly what obligations the team may or may not have.

  • James15/07/2009 at 22:36

    The shuttle and the station can be tracked at http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/tracking/index.html

    Hehe, look there is the sun :D

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:36

    the EeeeeePC is very slow though...

    depends on your expectations?

    ours runs desktop doohickey nicely. we can upload photos from the nec and alex sounds great on skype (when he's not hungover).

    it's not much use for editing video, i'll grant you.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:37

    the EeeeeePC is very slow though...

    Am happy with iPhone until Apple's 10" laptop is launched

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:38

    the EeeeeePC is very slow though...

    depends on your expectations?

    ours runs desktop doohickey nicely. we can upload photos from the nec and alex sounds great on skype (when he's not hungover).

    it's not much use for editing video, i'll grant you.

    That's about all it can do. The Acer however, is like a small laptop - it seems to work a lot faster and has better battery life...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:39

    There are some really good UK siting opportunities for the shuttle and ISS over the next few days. Just click on your country and follow the instructions. Even as far north as me there are some 5 minute sitings.

    http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/index.html

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:39

    That's about all it can do. The Acer however, is like a small laptop - it seems to work a lot faster and has better battery life...

    but it has a proper fan right? which for our needs puts us back to square one.

  • Kathi15/07/2009 at 22:39

    usually the linux version installed by default is awful. whatever you buy you have to wipe it and install ubunutu (umbongo) anyhow.

    I might try out Moblin. It looks interesting.

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:39

    Am happy with iPhone until Apple's 10" laptop is launched

    can i put my name down for four?

  • cian15/07/2009 at 22:39

    Just saw the shuttle fly overhead. Pretty flippin cool :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:40

    That's about all it can do. The Acer however, is like a small laptop - it seems to work a lot faster and has better battery life...

    but it has a proper fan right? which for our needs puts us back to square one.

    Probably. My train is noisy though ;)

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:40

    can i put my name down for four?

    Sure, why not

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:40

    usually the linux version installed by default is awful. whatever you buy you have to wipe it and install ubunutu (umbongo) anyhow.

    I might try out Moblin. It looks interesting.

    It does actually - a flash drive OS sounds cool...

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:40

    Hehe, look there is the sun :D

    Rumour has that there are siting opportunities for it too but I don't buy that?

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:40

    Probably. My train is noisy though ;)

    there's a netbook out there for everyone. just have to pick the right one :)

  • lou15/07/2009 at 22:40

    can i put my name down for four?

    maybe christine may agree if you let her have a baby panda?

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:41

    I might try out Moblin. It looks interesting.

    hadn't heard of that one. looks awesome.

  • me15/07/2009 at 22:41

    maybe christine may agree if you let her have a baby panda?

    hmmmmm.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:41

    Just saw the shuttle fly overhead. Pretty flippin cool :D

    Where are you Cian?

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:41

    there's a netbook out there for everyone. just have to pick the right one :)

    http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/25/another-source-confirms-2010-apple-tablet/

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:42

    Where are you Cian?

    Ireland? I think

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:42

    Probably. My train is noisy though ;)

    there's a netbook out there for everyone. just have to pick the right one :)

    I like them both - the EeeePC is very small and light... the Acer is grunty and fast. If you just need lightweight stuff then go for the Eee.... if you wanna do most computer stuff (my mate says it even plays WoW) then go for the Acer...

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:43

    For those interested, Windows 7 has just gone on sale at a discount

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/microsoft/5832849/Windows-7-on-sale-at-slashed-prices.html

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:44

    Ireland? I think

    Damn. I never thought about watching outside after a launch. It would have been a lot lower than normal. Must find a ground track for its launch path

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:44

    Just saw the shuttle fly overhead. Pretty flippin cool :D

    awesome :-)

  • cian15/07/2009 at 22:44

    Ireland? I think

    Yeah, Ireland. Was a big bright light with a smaller orange one just underneath it moving pretty fast.

    Evening all by the way :D

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:45

    Ireland? I think

    Damn. I never thought about watching outside after a launch. It would have been a lot lower than normal. Must find a ground track for its launch path

    It didn't even occur to me that we could see it from UK/Ireland.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:45

    For those interested, Windows 7 has just gone on sale at a discount

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/microsoft/5832849/Windows-7-on-sale-at-slashed-prices.html

    Still don't get this bit though

    "All UK versions of Windows 7 will come without Microsoft’s Internet Explorer browser pre-installed due to the company’s ongoing battle with the European Union.

    This means that computer users will have to download and install a web browser of their choice when they upgrade their computer to Microsoft’s new operating system."

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:45

    Yeah, Ireland. Was a big bright light with a smaller orange one just underneath it moving pretty fast.

    It never occurrred to me to watch for it coming over from the launch. It is much lower and still has engines burning.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:48

    It didn't even occur to me that we could see it from UK/Ireland.

    It's trans_ Atlantic abort sites are in France and Spain so it must be visible all the time it launches to the station

  • cian15/07/2009 at 22:49

    It's trans_ Atlantic abort sites are in France and Spain so it must be visible all the time it launches to the station

    Shannon on the west coast here was a site aswell, not sure if its still used. Apparently its only the second time in the shuttle's history it's been visible over Ireland.

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 22:50

    Apparently its only the second time in the shuttle's history it's been visible over Ireland.

    Good find then

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 22:50

    I hate to cause a stir, but I fancy there’s an awful lot of feedback to be gained from this rather intelligent and non-violent community. {Comment #668}

    Firstly, GMM, thank you for the polite way you asked for feedback.

    Secondly, I don't know if Christine or "me" has e-mailed feedback, but I did do a blog entry a few months back about GMM which may interest you. (It also links back to the debate with Andrew Maitland at around that time).

    Hope you find it informative.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:51

    Shannon on the west coast here was a site aswell, not sure if its still used. Apparently its only the second time in the shuttle's history it's been visible over Ireland.

    I have never heard of Shannon as a TAL site. They use Istres in France and Moron and Zaragoza in Spain. Moron was the prime choice tonight but they switched to Zaragoza in flight.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:51

    Shannon on the west coast here was a site aswell, not sure if its still used. Apparently its only the second time in the shuttle's history it's been visible over Ireland.

    I have never heard of Shannon as a TAL site. They use Istres in France and Moron and Zaragoza in Spain. Moron was the prime choice tonight but they switched to Zaragoza in flight.

    Moron? Who you calling a Moron?

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 22:52

    G'day all.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:52

    Moron? Who you calling a Moron?

    That's what the place is called although you won't be surprised to know that NASA pronounces it in a strange way.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:52

    G'day all.

    Hi Joe. Ground stopped shaking?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:53

    Moron? Who you calling a Moron?

    That's what the place is called although you won't be surprised to know that NASA pronounces it in a strange way.

    What a funny name for a town ... I googled it - where's the runway where they ditch it if need be?

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 22:54

    Hi Joe. Ground stopped shaking?

    My neighbors were in my driveway trying to see a contrail, storms to the north prevented that. If it gets to land at KSC, I might get a sonic boom or two

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:55

    What a funny name for a town ... I googled it - where's the runway where they ditch it if need be?

    All I know is it's in Moron. I assume it is a military runway

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 22:55

    By the way, enjoying a very cool buzz from some budweiser after 27 holes of golf....and my second birdie ever!

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 22:56

    Moron? Who you calling a Moron?

    That's what the place is called although you won't be surprised to know that NASA pronounces it in a strange way.

    Often when Americans want to say 'moron' they say 'maroon' instead. I think that's a Bugs Bunny reference.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 22:56

    Often when Americans want to say 'moron' they say 'maroon' instead. I think that's a Bugs Bunny reference.

    NASA calls it Ma-rone

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:58

    Often when Americans want to say 'moron' they say 'maroon' instead. I think that's a Bugs Bunny reference.

    NASA calls it Ma-rone

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morón_Air_Base

    It's in Spain...

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 22:59

    http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Quikmaps

    How do i upload to this.

    The wiki thinks chrome is safari and doesn't support the tool buttons.

    And IE wont load the wiki?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 22:59

    Often when Americans want to say 'moron' they say 'maroon' instead. I think that's a Bugs Bunny reference.

    NASA calls it Ma-rone

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morón_Air_Base

    It's in Spain...

    And it's here

    Not a very long runway, mind...

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:00

    Often when Americans want to say 'moron' they say 'maroon' instead. I think that's a Bugs Bunny reference.

    Okay, I think I'm offended by that

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:01

    How do i upload to this.

    quick maps gives you an embed code. paste it as a widget.

    can't help with ie or chrome issues sadly.

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:01

    the real meaning of moron is me trying to figure out when the sidepodcast show is on sunday

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 23:02

    How do i upload to this.

    with Firefox?

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 23:03

    Okay, I think I'm offended by that

    Sorry but I hear it a lot

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:04

    Sorry but I hear it a lot

    It's okay, the buzz has softened by ire

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/07/2009 at 23:05

    has the shuttle ever aborted before?

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:05

    with Firefox?

    Ok i think ive dug that up now... will give it a go.

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:05

    has the shuttle ever aborted before?

    No

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 23:06

    has the shuttle ever aborted before?

    Don't think so. I am not aware of it ever happening.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 23:08

    I don;t think it has ever landed in Europe either even though the TAL sites are optional landing sites if KSC or Edwards are out because of weather

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 23:08

    am just watching the goodwood program on the itv player. i’d forgotten just how annoying Steve Ryder was {Comment #778}

    When was that on? I couldn't find it in the TV listings...

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:09

    quick maps gives you an embed code. paste it as a widget.

    I think it is working...Does it normaly take a minute or 2?

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 23:09

    When was that on? I couldn't find it in the TV listings...

    ITV4 yesterday at 8pm and 12:45 I think, as lou says it's on the itv player :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 23:09

    When was that on? I couldn't find it in the TV listings...

    It was on ITV4 at 8pm last night then on ITV1 just after midnight

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 23:10

    I think it is working...Does it normaly take a minute or 2?

    RG is the quikmaps expert

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:11

    I think it is working...Does it normaly take a minute or 2?

    i'll tell ya in a minute or two :)

    shouldn't do though.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:11

    RG is the quikmaps expert

    I think he went to bed, ill leave it for a bit longer and see what happens....

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:15

    I think he went to bed, ill leave it for a bit longer and see what happens....

    any luck? what's the url to your quikmap, we may be able to add it.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:17

    any luck? what's the url to your quikmap, we may be able to add it.

    It just seems to get stuck...

    http://www.quikmaps.com/show/109707

    Not the most impressive track ever... ;)

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 23:17

    Apart from that, I’ve very well. Mum’s doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she’s just found out she’s anaemic as well. {Comment #958}

    Hope your Mum gets well soon.

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:17

    Not the most impressive track ever... ;)

    Bernie would probably want to send it up the palm ;)

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 23:21

    Wouldnt you die alone while the person went to get the helpers? {Comment #961}

    Depends how quickly you were dying. With most causes of death, you get at least a couple of minutes, so in most situations I end up in, the helpers should be easy to come by. The danger is if the other person lets their mind wander and remembers halfway round that their boss will be horrible to them if their report isn't handed in on time, hence the "quickly!"...

  • Andy Taylor15/07/2009 at 23:21

    Don't think so. I am not aware of it ever happening.

    It's never happened. Landings have only ever happened in the USA.

    There is a fairly narrow window for a TAL in any case.

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:22

    It just seems to get stuck...

    same here :(

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:22

    same here :(

    Hehe,not to worry, i think the races at the sidepodring would be a lot better ;)

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:24

    Oh, Mr. C....and a Good day to you, Sir!

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:24

    Oh, Mr. C....and a Good day to you, Sir!

    howdy joe!

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:25

    howdy joe!

    I'll say it again, since no one cracked a cold one when mentioned the first time.....got my second birdie in golf today

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 23:26

    I'll say it again, since no one cracked a cold one when mentioned the first time.....got my second birdie in golf today

    Congrats!

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 23:27

    I'll say it again, since no one cracked a cold one when mentioned the first time.....got my second birdie in golf today

    Well done. I missed your earlier comment

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:27

    I'll say it again, since no one cracked a cold one when mentioned the first time.....got my second birdie in golf today

    i read your comment, but had absolutely no idea what it meant?

    any excuse though, lemmie get a beer.

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:28

    Congrats!

    Oh and get this, the guy at the pro shop, with a British accent, is an F1 fan. I got a chance to talk F1 with someone in the US, what a rarity

  • lou15/07/2009 at 23:28

    I'll say it again, since no one cracked a cold one when mentioned the first time.....got my second birdie in golf today

    awesome! well done! :)

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 23:29

    Watching the NASA post launch press conference. They seem very happy wih the launch apart from some foam hitting the shuttle. They don't think there will be any problems but will cary out all the normal checks and repair if necessary.

  • Steven Roy15/07/2009 at 23:30

    Oh and get this, the guy at the pro shop, with a British accent, is an F1 fan. I got a chance to talk F1 with someone in the US, what a rarity

    That's better than a birdie

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:30

    Oh and get this, the guy at the pro shop, with a British accent, is an F1 fan. I got a chance to talk F1 with someone in the US, what a rarity

    Was he talking sense?

    Well done on the birdie... Considering how many golf courses i used to live around i should be a lot better than i am. So i know that's a big achievement!

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 23:30

    Oh and get this, the guy at the pro shop, with a British accent, is an F1 fan. I got a chance to talk F1 with someone in the US, what a rarity

    That's better than a birdie

    Close run thing I'd have thought.

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:30

    any excuse though, lemmie get a beer.

    Roger that sir. I will be playing again tommorrow. Blackjack on Friday and then my Fire Dept golf tourney, I am cramming rounds so as not to embarass myself

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:32

    Roger that sir. I will be playing again tommorrow. Blackjack on Friday and then my Fire Dept golf tourney, I am cramming rounds so as not to embarass myself

    *cheers*

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:32

    Was he talking sense?

    Well, he sounded like anyone with a British accent, lamenting LW's poor race finishes....waiting to see what reaction that gets

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:33

    LW? I meant LH

  • Alianora La Canta15/07/2009 at 23:34

    It was on ITV4 at 8pm last night then on ITV1 just after midnight {Comment #1312}

    That would explain why, contrary to what I'd been told from elsewhere, it wasn't on ITV at lunchtime...

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:36

    Well, he sounded like anyone with a British accent, lamenting LW's poor race finishes....waiting to see what reaction that gets

    A lot of f1 fans i know dont like lewis... He is too Beckam for their liking.

    I like him though... more this season than last, but still.

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:38

    He really sounded like me, happy Max will be unemployed soon, loves the racing, happy to see Mark get a win and hoping F1 returns to North America

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 23:44

    what on earth? on Youtube I've found a cover of Ruby by Kaiser Cheifs singing about Barrichello's comemnts. The chorus goes...

    "rubens rubens ruebns rubens! Blah blah blah blah blah"

    I dunno whether I should be laughing at this or not...!!

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:45

    I dunno whether I should be laughing at this or not...!!

    i think we need a link!

  • Pat W15/07/2009 at 23:45

    Mega tired because I couldn't sleep last night. I'll catch you tomorrow.

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:45

    night pat

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:46

    Mega tired because I couldn't sleep last night. I'll catch you tomorrow.

    See ya, Pat

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 23:46

    i think we need a link!

    enjoy...

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:47

    enjoy...

    hahahahaha!

  • me15/07/2009 at 23:48

    enjoy...

    oh good lord, that has so much potential... except for the signing.

  • lou15/07/2009 at 23:48

    i think we need a link!

    enjoy...

    awwww :( poor Rubens!

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 23:48

    oh good lord, that has so much potential... except for the signing.

    rubens has a wonde... ohhhhhhh.

    I dunno whether I should like it or not! I fee so bad for him watching that!

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:50

    Reubens is a good dude, this is a bit of cheap shot

  • Lukeh15/07/2009 at 23:51

    Reubens is a good dude, this is a bit of cheap shot

    I do feel really guilty finding that :(

  • Bassano 'The Godfather' Clapper15/07/2009 at 23:51

    Reubens is a good dude, this is a bit of cheap shot

    But he does whinge a lot lately

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:51

    Reubens is a good dude, this is a bit of cheap shot

    yeah, but its all in fun!

    Some of it went too far...but a lot of it was funny!

  • Nick15/07/2009 at 23:52

    But he does whinge a lot lately

    He tweeted Lukeh and I last weekend!

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:53

    Some of it went too far...but a lot of it was funny!

    You have a valid point

  • Joe in Fla15/07/2009 at 23:56

    see you all later, storm moving and I want to watch it roll in