Middle of the week time again, and already attention has turned to Hungary. The rumours are that Piquet won't keep his seat at Renault, but haven't we been saying that all year? Anyway, here are some of the other things we're talking about:
- The arguments are still raging over how to pronounce Not Seb's name. I'm loving that for once it is not just me that doesn't know how to say something. What we really need is for Name That Driver to grab him and tell us once and for all.
- An interview with Jarno Trulli reveals the Trulliometer is somewhere in the middle as he suffered a bad race but believes the team can bounce back. I guess by bounce back he means bounce off someone else? I totally missed it during the race but he and Nakajima came together on the first corner which caused all the trouble. Let's take bets on who he can collide with next.
- With it being a Wednesday, you must not forget the Pitlane Fanatic quiz. This week, Kathi has very kindly put up a prize in the shape of the Fantasy Racers top-scorer t-shirt, so head on over to answer the questions and have a go.
That'll do it for now, let's hope for a good Wednesday so as to prepare for the evil Thursday. Let us know what you're up to, and I'll see you in the comments.
What happens if Kathi wins the quiz?
.........
bugger!
Can she compete with Journyer?
I'm looking forward to the quiz, even though I'll be multitasking.
I have no chance, no worries there.
so i cant read everything posted since i went to sleep because im on my mobile but can i just say that i am pleased to see lewis is less expert than heikki :D
You never know.....
Not sure where, but Brendon says he'd like to marry you. FACT
Benny Benny Benny
Benny and the Jets
'nuff said
Ah. Now that took a moment to work out.
lewis's questions were also way way easier he got no really random ones they were all about f1 and mclaren! Ha.
Ok...heres a slightly morbid but potentially fun game...
You've just saved someones life, but because you've saved theirs, you're now dieing. You're lying in front of the person you've saved....
What do you say?
Is this a quiz... i will investigate
Brake !
Give that back!
The 5th driver hasnt said anything...
1642 emails....
Half of them marked as important
*sort by importance - ctrl-a - delete*
You have assistants to deal with stuff like that now
Why did you sort them if you deleted them all?
I'm off, G'night all. Thanks for another fun evening! Tomorrow night - the new Harry Potter starts at 9.30 till 12.00. Joy upon all joys...
Night!!
Morning, everyone.
Is it just me, or does the sound work with FF3.5 now? :D
And wow, lots of comments last night!
Yep, it does :D
As I quit... I don't have an assistant. My ex-work keeps hassling me though - so far they've offered me more time off, more money and more assistants - and a managerial position.
If I sort by importance, it groups them. ctrl-a just selects all in that grouping.
Whats next for Flibster then?
You quit?! But why?
When did this happen? I must have missed the memo.
Dunno.
Enjoying Paris though.
hello there sidepodpeople
Which part of Paris are you in?
that was strange, had to refresh the doohickey 3 times before it realised there was a daily for the 15th.
Hi Journeyer and Guille
How come I didn't move to Paris when I left my last job?
it might know something we don't?
Artists quarter. About 10 minutes walk to Mont Matre *uhhhh...however it's spelt.*
Leaving tomorrow though - Taking my car on a little trip to unknown race track for a blast. Called the Nordschliefe or something like that.
Hehe. rm * - Unix is so trusting.
Thurdsay afternoon - 16:46 to be precise.
Nice area.
Try not to bend it or yourself.
heehe whats bought all this on? (your life is more interesting than sleep)
I seem to remember that doing rm -r * in the root directory is a bad thing...
Not the Lancia surely?
one day you'll do that and the internets will just stop.
Hmmm. I *think* I'm in the right place.......
Nah. Typing "google" into Google will break the Internet though.
sudo rm -Rf
Then typing in the root password, that's worse.
Meh - Car is more important than me. I'm already too badly broken.
General annoyances with life. My exact words to the MD was *during a budget meeting....* "Sod it - I quit. Enjoy!"
I wish - still in many, MANY pieces. Some larger than others though.
wow, go you for going against the flow! sounds like you've had an awesome few days
Whenever I'm in a *nix system it's using the root account.
At uni we discovered that someone at IBM had left one of their servers that was visible to the internet with the default Root user and password of root and root. 8O :D
But hang on, that's exactly what I did.
I'll be right back....
wow! have fun!
Tsk. Very bad practice. Exactly what I do though :)
When I was a student we discovered it was possible to print out files stored in other user accounts on our Unix box. Helped me through a couple of assignments that did.
Phew, yes it's OK. I checked 6 times and I was deleting from the right directory.
Here's an amazing picture of a bubble being burst.
http://bit.ly/FeVEL
hehe. i can still see google. you're okay.
Oh! I should put that in my test plan :D
wow
Nice
Amazing.
i'm off to sleep, night everyone! x
night lou.
Night Lou.
Night lou. and I love your Goodwood photos
night lou, im gonna make a second attempt at sleeping. unless anyone has any exciting storys for their day/week/month?
aw thank you :)
Night Lou
I have my crash helmet out of storage especially. :D
Aiming of a bridge to gantry time of 8:30or below. Anything higher than that is frankly unacceptable.
Considering Clarkson did it in a diseaseal Jag in 9:59 and he's a fat buffoon who didn't know the track and had entirely the wrong car and Sabine did it in 9:12 iirc - I will have my work cut out for me, but it should be fun.
we need pics!
what car?
Oooh. Is the GP worth watching?
First one I haven't seen in many years and I didn't miss it at all.
out of car of course ;) taking pics in car is now banned :P
German? Yup, worth watching. :)
Nice one :-)
of the ring?
What about tweeting?
Be sure to let us know how you get on. I assume you are driving your Mazda
It's worth is just for Ruben's post-race interview
won't it be in french?
:D
Blimey. If it wasn't working though, best thing..
yup
Don't do the Seven Second Ring thing which someone posted the other day.
Yes, one of the better ones this year. You can probably skip Hungary, but then you knew that.
I'll go find a camera shop.
I know exactly where my camera is. It's on the bed back home, with the other stuff that I meant to pack and then emptied all the crud out of my bag on top of before repacking it...
My phone is there, as is my MP3 charger and usb cables....
I've done well :D
RX-8 with a couple of handling/braking tweaks, plus a lifted rev limit.
Was 9500 rpm.
Now 10500rpm. :D
boo. why?
I did see that while trying to find the bly-ray channel on my mates AV setup.
He did seem a touch unhappy.
Past the first lap?
Theres no solid reason given but...
http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/videoban.html
should give you more info
People with cameras try to go faster to impress and end up going beyond their ability.
how are they going to know?
ziss is a good question, but spot checks on cars im guessing
Flibster, remember to have a look at this when you come back....
http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/photos/photosites.html
could be good
We Were Promised Jetpacks - name of a band my sister has recommended to me
haha good name, never heard of them
great name!
I think they check. I'd bet a hidden camera would be harder to spot though.
Nice to see coments are still here, i fell asleep on the sofa have apparently been pressing buttons.
My neck is cricked... brilliant
Ooooh.
So - shall I go for 2 wheels or on the roof?
those 3 hours catching up on you?
2 wheels over a kerb is good
"
Optional extras available at additional cost include armco repairs, safety car attendance, vehicle recovery, track closure, hospital stays and helicopter rides. I recommend avoiding these. If you can't, then the following price-list may help:
* Base fee for attendance of armco truck: €150
* Removing damaged armco: €10/metre (x2 or x3 or x4 for multiple-height sections)
* Replacement armco: €31/metre (x2 or x3 for double/triple height)
* Removing damaged armco posts: €5.10 each
* Replacing armco post: €39 each
* Safety car attendance: €82 per 30 mins (car + 2 people)
* Circuit closure: €1,350 per hour
* Recovery truck: €190 (inc VAT)
* Hospital stay & air ambulance: Let's just say, do NOT go there without travel insurance! (Though a European Health Card - which replaced the E111 - may cover the hospital bit.)
Everything except the recovery truck is then subject to 19% VAT.
The record armco bill I'm aware of is €15,000. That was a car that managed to flatten a very impressive length of armco between the Quiddlebacher Hohe bridge and the crest on the approach to Flugplatz. But even a minor bump can turn into a surprisingly expensive day out."
I'm going neither...just in case...
If you do it right you won't need to pay to remove the damaged armco. :D
It'll be wrapped around the car. ;)
Yes... lots of rubbish to sift though this afternoon as well.
Night all.. I dont think i have a song stuck in my head tonight!
:D
Hang on, are you making those names up? Aren't they from Harry Potter?
Night Nick.
How do you get insurance to go on the Nordschleife? My car insurance explicity forbids it on the front page - which I thought was kinda cool.
hahaha
Night Nick
I'm not sure you do
Ah.
http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/insurance.html
night nick (and lou before...)
You can get specific insurance as it says on Ben's site. It's expensive and has high excesses and low maximum payouts.
Must go to bed. Night all.
You can always get insurance for driving on a track. It is not at all cheap though.
'night night people
Night Andy.
I should probably go soon, just need to procrastinate for a bit, still too awake.
It's better to drive your "other car" on the track
night andy
As a public toll road it's covered by my insurer as long as I inform them on how many days I'm going to be there and pay a small charge. :D
Heh :-)
Not that I'm going there any time soon, just generally curious in case I found myself there..
Right - it's gone half 2
Have an early start tomorrow - plus need to give the car a wipe over to clean all the crap off it *smoother aero... better performance. ;)*
It used to be red - now it's a mix of bird poop, mud and dust... I really don't like cleaning cars. I prefer driving them.
TTFN
Have fun
Have a good one :-)
bye flibster, enjoy your ride tomorrow
Enjoy.
See ya flibster
Hello all
hi joe
I have a hypothetical question, would you guys hunt me down like the dog I am, if I go to a NASCAR race, at the track that formerly (hopefully once again) held one the best F1 races on the calender?
Its the oval version of the track? umm, consider the hunt started
No, hold off on the hunt for a sec, it's Montreal. There will be a Daytona Prototype race there? Although the only reason I would go is I love Montreal and the Budweiser Beer Garden and the Casino
(puts down the sword and shield)
given those circumstances...
If you're going specifically for N-Word and GA, yeah I would..
Whereas if you're going to Montreal and those things happen to be on and you decide to take a looksee, that's not so bad.
hehe. I just found out a great band will be playing in the beergarden (bud girls there as well). I told the lead singer, I'll by a GA ticket and go from the casino to the beergarden and never see a car the entire weekend. The trip is a fraction of what the F1 weekend cost
In actual fact, one of the things that impressed me most at Goodwood was Rusty Wallace in his NASCAR at speed, he really went for it.
I'm sold.
If Scott Speed is running, I might stick a crow bar into my wallet for a grand stand seat.... about 1/4 the price of an F1 ticket
Should probably get to bed. Still don't feel properly tired. Ah well. More work-based tedium awaits, then the quiz! and the podcast with a crazyman at the same time..
talk to you later
night all (is there anybody out there...?)
Yeah, me...see ya
And to think we were only just talking about Area 51 yesterday :)
See, now that reminded me of a Pink Floyd song (on The Wall)
Good morning
Good morning Jackie
Hi Paul .. Is it a lovely day where you are at?
Um. It might be called lovely. It's rather cold though, 5 degrees.
Souns like a nice morning for a brisk walk then
Yes, except it's almost 4 in the afternoon ;-)
Should be a brisk walk back to the car after work though.
haha oh well, not long to go till home time so that's a bonus. I've not even started work yet. Just mulling over a cup of coffee and reading the news before I go have a shower
Well I hope it's a great day then
me too :D
Tis very quiet this (morning) no Amy or Journeyer
It's been a bit that way this time of day. I'm just trying to distract myself from what I really should be doing.
Ooh I'm good at that :)
Me too, and I really shouldn't be
Morning all,
What's this I keep hearing about Sidepodcast radio shows?
Morning Gavin. RG has a bit about it in the wiki .. he has very ambitious plans
First I heard was on the Debrief. Awaiting further info....
I don't have enough time to keep up with all that goes on in sidepodland as it is, without trying to fit in more shows LOL. I've only just finished listening to the safety series I'm so far behind.
I don't try anymore. I don't even keep up with the comments. *Life* is intruding.
I'd love to be a part of that!
Gavin does desert island F1?
Maybe ... I could think of a few songs that would fit F1 drivers ;)
Quite a few of the ABBA songs could be appropriate
The winner takes it all. Gimme gimme gimme etc
You could probably make a musical out of those songs ... oh wait... ;)
Fernando, obviously.
Obviously, and unfortunately, the songs will have to be podsafe ones :(
Create our own versions? :D
Oh bugger :(
Sidepodcast - The musical?
Mr. C. would make an excellent Phantom!
Quiet in here, innit?
Morning.
Good Morning!
it suuuuure is. well it isnt here. but i'm sure you wouldn't lie to us.
Amy, have you seen this? http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/
ooh no but I'm excited already
now I really want some Georgie Pie. Damn nostalgia.
Why is it so hard to decline birthday cream cakes without offending the birthday celebrant?
the last office birthday we had had two kinds of cake. I declined the first easily because I wanted the second. I don't think this helps you.
Hehe, no. Appreciate it though :)
Can anyone try to find out if this is legit? It looks like it is...
http://twitter.com/Kimi_Raikkonen
I remember hearing a few months back that its fake
Oh, shame about that.
not much shame, he doesn't say much anyway (whether real or fake :-) )
good point there. for a fake account, he doesn't say a lot, does he?
For a big day in F1, it sure is quiet in the news...
Oh god, what massive thing is supposed to be happening today then?
Revised Concorde Agreement should be up for signature today, if I'm not mistaken...
Which ties in nicely with the end of Bernie's 48-hour commitment to clean up the mess.
And are all the teams invited to sign that or just the one's Max decides are allowed today?
There was outrage in the office yesterday when this happened:
All 13 teams + FIA + FOM.
15 people will sign.
13 teams, Max and Bernie for CVC
I see.
Presumably just because they sign this doesn't mean they're all best friends again, though?
An actual outrage?
It might seem that way (with their press statements), but they don't need to be. What matters is that they're legally binded to the sport.
If this works Max will probably be out, F1 will stay as it is (except for the ban on refueling), we'll have 3 new teams, and Bernie will stay at the helm.
Well no, but a lot of people complained to poor Ollie about a lack of cake related birthday material. Which I felt was quite unfair.
Morning all... i just woke up feeling pro active... put all my washing in the machine and turned it on without checking anything. My dry clothes have been drying for 15 mins....
and then there is that expected public execution of Sebastien Bourdais as Mr Saward described it :-)
No kitty in the washer, then? ;)
someone is about to die on Neighbours and Home and Away, I couldn't take another ;)
I agree. I don't understand the social conventions surrounding birthdays. I would much rather someone brought cakes in because they were in an exceedingly good mood and wanted to share, or they felt like we'd done a good job.
A birthday is such an arbitrary thing.
Does New Zealand have a Neighbousr/ Home and away equivalent?
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/07/concorde-agreement-close-but-not-today/
something on that concorde
what I hate at my office is when the loud ITS MY BIRTHDAY people have birthdays they take a hat around and expect you to put money in for them and whisper about how cheap you are behind your back if you dont, yet there is people like me who dont make a big deal about our birthdays so people don't know they're happening, so no one does anything for it. I think its something they should do for everyone or no one.
I took in a big bowl and 10 family bags of malteasers... and they went quick!
oh yes
White smoke... took me a while to get that metaphor.
Boo for being set in a hospital.
Millions of Bonus points for having a Bar called 'The IV'
...Now that is brilliant! :D
We had cake the other day because fourstars wife made some and had some extra. Although I do not understand this concept of extra - I think she was justifiably very pleased with it and he might have wanted to show off a little bit - which is a perfectly lovely thing to do.
when I got my job in the hospital I was most disappointed to learn they're not like they are on TV ;)
That said, at least progress is being made. The teams are confident enough about it to concentrate on the silly season...
Dieter Rencken in Autosport is saying that the teams have put a $300m price on Max's head. They will reduce their claim of 60% of the revenue down to 50% if CVC can arrange for Max to quit.
You are missing out vital details of this story. What kind of cake?
All Jobs should be like they are on TV :D
But i dont think i could work in a hospital, even if it was a tv job!
I am still disappointed to know that nurses don't watch/like Casualty.
Take a hat round? Wow we don't have that convention at all. On your birthday here you are expected to buy the cakes or get the round in on your birthday.
Thats strange... i thought they had a plan to leave f1 and become GP1 if he didn't leave the FIA?
Bannana cake.
I have just been told the magical words, "there's more to come - we just suddenly got a big bag of banannas" yum :)
It's a very NZ/Aus thing I think. Everyone puts in a couple of dollars and then someone gets put in charge of the money and buying them a present. I hate to think of the money I have felt obliged to pay over the years for people I don't even like.
A doctor I know likes House but none of the others.
Ooooh. How does one 'suddenly' acquire bananas? I am intrigued.
When it was my birthday on saturday... i bought everyone a round to say thank you for coming. I think it confused a lot of people.
Does Dr Giggles like any of them?
That is what they will do if CVC can't do it.
you know you're not really a doctor, right?
Wow. They're willing to give up that much money just to get rid of Max?
One of My doctor friends loves scrubs.
In fact i think he may be the most tv character like person i know.
I like House but none of the others maybe I am an actual doctor :)
oh :(
;)
I don't think that really counts!
I kept advising people I'd worked at the hospital for 5 years so it couldn't be too much longer until I'd be allowed to operate. Then I was told it doesn't work that way. I used knifes, they use scalpels, I don't see too much of a difference.
The tv show, not the clothing.
Well the clothing too... but only because it make him look 'dramatic'
For some reason i keep forgetting to do simleys in my haste to post
here is a compensatory one! :D
:P
Stop right there!
does his jacket swoosh when he turns?
Well fourstar's parents took fourstar's children to the zoo and on the way back fourstar's eldest needed to go to the loo and so they stopped off at Asda. And fourstar's parents while they were waiting couldn't turn down a bargain like 20 bananas for a pound so they bought 40 took 20 home and left 20 with fourstar.
You did ask ;)
before you go any further?
:D
When that story started, I felt sure it would have to do with monkeys or something.
It has a bar called 'the IV though! :)
IIts lost on me...
:d
But i havent seen him wearing a jacket!
That would have been a better story :)
It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!
See, it's cursed!
OK, this video has naughty words in it but it's a Lego Star Wars re-enactment of the Eddie Izzard Death Star Canteen sketch, it's so funny I have tears in my eyes.
BTW currently residing on my monitor are some of the Star Wars Lego figurines including Lord Sir Darth Vader man!
Dear Mr C,
I see that you directed Andy to tweet me about these: http://bit.ly/cuddlypanda
Next time, it would be nicer for you to just buy me the cuddly panda. It would save you a couple of packs of Milkybar Buttons.
Kind Regards
Mrs C
Thanks for the quiz link, it's broken though, should be http://www.pitlanefanatic.com/chat.php ;-)
Quiz will be starting at the slightly earlier time of 8pm (British Summer Time)
Any requests for rounds since I seem to have a lack of questions at the precise moment in time?
Michael Schumacher questions! :D
Oops will fix now.
:D
Morning. :)
The 'what' does Nick think about F1 round?
:D
the 'reasons why Schumacher is a cheat round?
Good morning... you having an exciting day?
The "really quite so easy that even Mrs C can answer them" round?
I second that. ;)
noted.
not particularly, yourself?
So far i have put clothes on to dry instead of washing them... But there is hope for later :D
have you not read the guide to laundry?
these modern laundry devices and their confusing settings ;)
question: if I got someone who is a Black Books fan the Little Book of Calm for their birthday, would they get the reference?
Have never seen it. I guess it depends how big a fan they are and how obvious the reference is?
I don't think they're a big fan, but they are a recent fan, as in they only watched their first episode two weeks ago but two days later they had watched all three seasons. I am hoping this recentness will work.
That sounds like a big fan to me! :)
The problem is i just chucked it in and turned it on without thinking.
Someone should build a washing machine for people who like to do this :D
hooray. Next step, finding this stupid little book in a bookshop.
You guys need amazon!
Going to Aus gives me withdrawl!
From AUTOSPORT: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76980
No surprise there, then. The ultimate good news-bad news scenario, I think.
Yeah... The one man who could be worse than max!
I still buy almost everything I own off UK + USA online shopping sites, Amazon is a favourite. But the shipping...oh it kills.
So it's Vatanen v. Todt for the Presidency. I know who I'm supporting.
Come on you cant support Todt! :P
so tell us, or is a secret ?
someone should invent a washing machine that can analyse your clothes - fabric, colour, etc - and choose its own setting accordingly.
didn't Fisher & Paykel already do something like that?
Yes, probably very smugly and arrogantly no doubt!
You know a scary amount about washing machines!
my dad refuses to buy their products haha
all I know is I have never once separated my whites/colours/delicates and I've never had a washing disaster. I do wash my towels separately though, don't want to get fluff on everything :D
Not in a million years, I wouldn't. Vatanen all the way!
The letter (pdf) itself is on the FIA website
Definite confirmation that he's leaving, some moaning about the re-drafting of the Concorde agreement - but with assurance it will be signed - and a glowing endorsement for Todt.
(1) How many times has Michael Schumacher collided with a rival to affect the outcome of the championship?
(2) How many times has Michael Schumacher used his influence within the team to affect team orders to his benefit?
(3) How many times has he brought the sport into disrepute and angered the fans?
(4) How many seasons did he make F1 so boring, that for those on a time-delay asked their wives to check the result so as not to bother watching if he won?
How can you like Schumacher and not Todt? I thought they were a package deal :D
Then your Dad is a sensible and well-reasoned man!
Schumacher and Todt were the axis of evil!
Schumacher was never evil. Flawed, maybe. Evil, no.
Official letter from Max:
http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/f1releases/2009/Documents/mm_letter_150709.pdf
Even Michelle Yeoh gets a mention!
This is ridiculus... the letter goes straight into f1 as if its the FIA's main function.
I USED to like Todt. But remember, even Schumacher is siding with FOTA on this one... ;)
Have you read James Allen's excellent book? It's an eye-opener, that's for sure!
I have it in my bookshelf. :)
But have you read it?
So do I, but I can't remember a word of it. Maybe its time for a re-read.
Unworthy world champion
Anyhow State of origin 3 is on at the moment, and its amazing! I highly recommend it! http://bigpondtv.com/nrlliveuk
can i add to that. those not on a time delay waited for the results before deciding whether to watch the highlights?
I am watching Spicks and Specks :D
It isn't? ;)
You did the same? Unbelievable that I would do that, but that's how bad it got. I missed most of 2004 because of this :(
Compare with MotoGP and Rossi, there is a good way to dominate the sport, be nice about it and entertain the fans at the same time.
You can have a 30 min exemption as that show is pretty good ;)
I always forget its on. It does make me want to pull out my Bee Gees DVD though. Yes, I have a Bee Gees DVD. I'm awesome.
Yup.
being a schumacher fan, i guess i never experienced that. i LIKED watching when he won - i never found it boring. but i do understand why many people would find it boring.
I didnt really wath f1 when he was dominating, but I did enjoy seeing him loose... he took it so personally!
Haven't got time to cover ALL of that
That might make a good tie breaker, any one have Schumi's twitter so I can get the answer?
And you weren't shocked at how cold and ruthless he is? How little he cared for the sport and it's history and heritage. He knew exactly what was going on and went along with it too...
I cannot see how you can take enjoyment from his winning - he almost ruined the sport and it's even worse now he's become "Schumacher the comedian" and "Schumacher the apologist".
Did you see the way he apologised to Coulthard? Yeurgh! Read the James Allen book again - what a two faced sonofa...
howdy all. how are we all?
Very good sir. Sleep well?
just came by to show this mark webber fountain picture. bye again :)
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200907/r398142_1866143.jpg
"This absolutely unprecedented level of support is very rewarding..."
You mean Max managed to become president with less than 100 members supporting him???
i've been up for a while, just been to the primary school i went to, helping out with a concert tomorrow, today was the dress rehersal....however, sleep? not so much. After days of 10 hours sleep, my body rejects the idea of less, and so after 6 hours last night im a bit worse for wear, but still alive!
pour it in hte ear, comes out the mouth. amazing.
see ya
I have to sleep on the couch at the moment as I have a cold and it's the only way I can sleep with a raised head!
Aww man, i hate colds, they are grim, especially the never ending ones. Hope you get better soon
Thanks man. I think it's the Viking Beserker strain - started as a sore throat, then became a head cold and is finishing off as a cough and a runny nose!
Just buy uber amounts of loo roll and you'll be fine!
Most amazing try in the history of rugby was almost scored in state of origin.
No - because he admitted as much - at least initially. Remember Monza 2000, the way he just broke down out of nowhere? It shows that he did care about the sport - at least to some degree.
You could argue that he damaged it, yes, with his antics at Jerez and Monaco. But did he really come that close to ruining it? I guess you could take their use of team orders as an example, but their only fault was that they used it too blatantly. Team orders in itself isn't wrong.
If you're referring to Spa 1998, yup, it did show a flaw of his - finding it difficult to apologize. But then, is that Schumacher thinking it was his fault and refusing to admit it, or was it Schumacher genuinely mistakenly thinking that it wasn't his fault?
How many member clubs are there, anyway?
Besides, it could be that he has lost some support now compared to before, and that he was voted through by more than that last time.
221
222, I find 100 hard to believe personally
Has someone quit that I didn't count?
I got it from here
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/the-fia/about-fia/Pages/AboutFIA.aspx
He broke down because he was under pressure from the team as the championship was slipping away until that point. The Senna thing was the straw that broke the Schummel's back.
Team orders are OK, but Austria 2002 and the second driver being told to be a helper monkey isnt.
No, according to the book it's his cold ruthless side refusing to give an inch ever, even when you are wrong. It's no use apologising 11 years later.
Which I do agree with - they shouldn't have been that blatant with the use of team orders.
Better late than never, they say. As I said, it is a flaw, but for some reason, the pros have outweighed the cons for me when it comes to Michael Schumacher. I guess that's why I'm a fan of his.
Official letter from Max:
Well don't ruin Todt's campaign before it's started, Max
I would :)
I think the fact that he was allowed to win 1 championship, let alone seven shows how weak the fia have been.
Although people have done things has bad as him in the past so maybe I am too harsh.
Fair enough. But however much I try, I can't get over the flaws and I can't forgive him for making the sport almost unwatchable when he dominated and how he always tested the rulemakers and fans with his antics.
"Remain on the lookout for things that make you laugh, and if you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it. Then laugh."
Same here!
What should the FIA have done, then?
Also, even if one assumes that he didn't deserve his 1994 and 2003 titles (for various reasons), why wouldn't have he been a deserving champion in the other 5 years?
:)
It just shows the depth of dislike for the man through all levels of the sport.
Here's a fun question: why do you like him so much? What makes you want to defend him so passionately like you do?
Good advice!
You can ask that of any fan who supports a driver, I support Alonso and I defend him, Hamilton fans defend him etc. Its just natural I guess to defend the driver you support.
Yes but with Alonso and Hamilton, I can see very good reasons for liking them. With Schumi I can't!
Why? A bit hard to explain with logic, to be honest. More of an emotional thing - the first F1 races I ever saw were all Schumacher wins.
Why do I defend him so passionately? Beyond the fact that I'm a fan, I guess it's because while he does have some glaring flaws, he also had this unbelievable determination. He made Ferrari champions again with a LOT of hard work. Yes, he brought over Brawn and Byrne, but it was Schumacher who got them to move to Maranello. Also, the way he fought back after breaking his leg was astounding.
If he didnt win 1994, he conceivably wouldn't have won the others.
The penalty he got in 97 was a joke, and made a mockery of what happened in 94
Agreed. :)
I don't necessarily agree with that - he was determined to win the title, and he had the ability and team to do it. It was always a question of when rather than if.
Alonso could purposely drive into Hamilton and I will still support and defend the guy. The point is no matter what they do you support them through it all.
Mark Webber forum is a very funny place!
But then Senna didn't get penalized for what he did in 90 - in fact, he became champion that year.
Alonso wouldn't do that though... he is more evil than that.
:D
I will agree with you that he was largely responsible for bringing the personnel to Ferrari, but the guys he brought over are responsible for making the team what it is now - Ross Brawn in particular. TBH Schumi and Todt very nearly destroyed all of that and I still have a problem supporting Ferrari - which is troubling considering I have Italians in my family!
From the book, he was reluctant to return after breaking the leg and was pressured into coming back so quickly. But it did make him stronger and more focused and I agree that it prolonged his career. Any comeback after a bad injury always deserves credit, though!
Thats not the point. 97 effectively said we are him penalising because he didnt get away with it, if he had then he would have been champion that year.
That was because Balestre tried to fix it for Prost to win so Senna did the right thing and took him out. I don't agree with the dangerous way he did it but if Prost had won it wouldn't have been proper. IIRC Senna got a suspended ban for that didn't he?
they penalised him because everyone pressured the FIA to do so, not because he didn't get away with it.
I should add i dont understand this.
It seems to me that its a bit like football. Whoever pays the multi-millionaire the most money, the most consistently is the biggest and bestest fan.
Yup - but that's an even lighter penalty than what Schumi got in 97. A suspended ban means nothing if you're not a repeat offender.
The penalty was also a joke.
But we will have to agree to disagree as to its reasons
And it's a good job they did pressurise the FIA because it was wrong. He got away clean with 94 and to do it again was just poor.
i would agree with david hobbs' assessment of 1994 - the adelaide incident is overrated in that schumi didn't do it on purpose - it was a driver error.
Look who has a Twitter account:
http://twitter.com/AriVatanen
A shame he doesn't update it, though.
Maybe you could argue that if the rest of his career was clean, but he did it so many times it was clearly deliberate!
I'm having trouble loading the PF page. Noooo... :(
i suspect it was accidental, then he realized what he'd gotten away it, so it became deliberate later.
but really, while he was an aggressive blocker, he only intentionally tried to take out a car once - and he failed to do it.
*gotten away with
Which one?
Ok... we will have to agree to disagree again! :P
Blog is slow, chat is slower. :(
we must be talking about a different man.
Don't worry, Mr C does that a lot with me on this topic. ;)
:D
Ah, Mr C, I had just mentioned you.
Other than Adelaide 1994 (which I am contending) and Jerez 1997 (which I agree with), were there other times he tried taking out other cars?
You MUST be joking. Cmon, F1, I want my HD!
WRC in HD in America
They have 1 camera!
Its very pretty!
:D
If there is one thing I dislike more than Max it's screen protectors for the iTouch :D
- every time he started from pole and tried to run the second place guy off the road
- when he drove alonso clean off the track and then some in hungary (forget the year)
- when he drover montoya clean off the track at the other italian track (forget the name and the year)
there are hundreds (yes hundreds), of examples where he risked killing another driver on track.
I'm with you Nick - he left an open hole for Hill to go for and then jerked the wheel hard to the right. Now that wasn't accidental, you're not telling me he was this super quick super smart driver and he didn't know what would happen as a result?
Didnt he even try to ram ralph at somepoint?
he did.
although i might cut him some slack for that. if he was my brother...
Great Britain 1995: Hill caught Schummel Schumi and was much faster, so Schumi left a gap into Luffield and then just went across him. You could never pass him because he would always take you out!
In Schumi's defense, he was on the racing line. I think the error lies in that Schumi should've seen Hill, but he didn't. I could be wrong with how I saw the incident, but that's how I saw it.
That I would disagree with - Hill came from way too far back in that incident.
he was a dirty, nasty, filthy person when the visor closed, and he wasn't much nicer off track.
however, he seems more friendly now.
Perhaps there should be a tv mini series on 'the great crimes of schumacher'
Because the collisions are just the start!
The racing line!
What racing line! He was off the track!
retirement does it to everybody, I think. will it do that to max?
The collision happened after Schumacher came back onto the track. Schumacher went off at Turn X; the collision happened at Turn X + 1.
'
He isnt retiring though, he is regenerating!
Macau 1989 or 1990: Hakkinen goes to pass Schumi for the win, Schumi moves over and rams Hakkinen into the wall at speed. He denied doing it on purpose, then admitted it a few years later.
France 2000 or 2001: Coulthard passes him at the hairpin only to be forced off at the exit so Schummel Schumi regained the position. Sure enough, Coulthard passes him properly later on and 'thanks' him ;)
no. he's too old to change.
That makes it worse for me :(
...regenerating? Into what?
He takes the power, renames the job
Assuming Todt wins.
That won't happen if Ari wins, I think. But we may see a power struggle.
No, Hill could have passed him. The reason he came from so far back was because he had to try and surprise Schummel as he knew what would happen.
Poppycock!
i dunno. am just glad he's gone really.
it's only racing, in the end it makes no difference to very much. his records are there and some will consider them tainted and some won't.
he drove f1wolf around a track and that's pretty cool. i have a short memory at the best of times and that's my most recent one ;)
Hmmm. Will have to agree to disagree on that one.
:D And he's the Stig! Well, he was for a week, anyway.
haven't seen it. but heard that, yeah.
I think its the other way round, if it looks like Ari is going to win he will strip the role of its powers.
If its todt, he will work though him.
As long as he isn't the Master I'm not to bothered ;)
I wouldn't say tainted, just, not as good as they look on paper.
That was cool - and TBH I wouldn't say no to that either!
A week? Surely just long enough for an interview!
Sounds fine by me ;)
He did drive the FXX round the Test Track. OK, maybe a day. ;)
I dont know why i don't like Schumacher and alonso.
I normally like devious stuff.
Apparently everyone in Denmark believes he is the Stig...
Come on Journeyer. I know you are are Ferrari fan but I never considered you to be blindly biased. You cannot defend Schumacher in any incident he was involved in. No-one ever rammed him but he drove at everyone. Had Bernie not taken an interest after his first race and placed hi at Benetton he would never have been allowed to do what he did.
He should have picked up a stack of bans for his antics but because h was box office Bernie would never let that happen. After he took Hill out in 1994 he should have been given a 3 race ban and that would have stopped him.
:D
My relationship with Alonso is hot-and-cold. I liked him in 2005, less so in 2006 (obviously) and 2007 (because of his tantrums with the team). I've softened up to him in 2008, though (partly because of his entire Singapore weekend). And he seems to have matured a bit. That said, he hasn't been placed again in the same position as he was in 2007...
I completely agree with Steven!
He won races and titles by ramming people off thee road while driving blatantly illegal cars with the FIA favouring Ferrari. You don't think that is tainted??
*claps* Thank you Mr. Roy!
Well maybe it is, I just don't have the guts to say it and accept that 7 out of the last 15 years were effectively a waste of time watching F1.
Hehe I disliked him in 2005 but liked him on 2006 ;) He's more comfortable at Renault and the team revolves round him so its easy to see why.
plus the benetton years...
I've said my piece on 1994; I do think it was an honest-to-goodness error. And I'm not the only person who said that. I'll just leave it at that.
I liked him in 05-06 because he was young and anti-schumacher.
In 07 i realised he was the heir apparent to schumacher and all the tantrums, tring to bribe people and cheating have made me unable to stand the guy.
His opinion of himself, backed up by Flav doesn't help either.
Did the FIA favour Ferrari just because of Schumacher? It isn't his fault that Ferrari built cars which were illegal.
I like Alonso because he slayed the dragon and saved the sport. The man is brilliant behind the wheel, he's hot-headed and he always gets into the mix. I am even prepared to accept his actions in 2007 because I think Ron messed with his head like he did with Montoya.
It might be a coincidence, but the cars at benneton were illegal as well.
he's what montoya promised to be. ron almost managed to kill both careers in successive years.
Yeah I forgot those :( He really did do a lot of damage to the sport - I am sure there are lots of people who were proper f1 fans that stopped watching coz of him and still haven't come back...
Two drivers who are fiery and they both butted heads with Ron, clearly not the type of driver Ron can manage well.
but why would ron hire alonso, then? surely he hired him to win races and titles?
Name me one other time in history where someone crashed his own car then just happened to take out the only guy who could take the title from him. Do you have any idea what the odds are on that happening by accident? Given that Schumacher made a career out of using his car as weapon do you seriously believe that somehow he would not do it when his goal was in sight and the only way to achieve it was to ram another driver?
But Schumacher didn't build the cars, he drove them. The blame for that isn't on him in my opinion.
And Ron did the same to Lauda, Prost and a few others. Shame really, I like Alonso's style and I am convinced that one day we will find out the proper story and he will come out of it better than he looks ATM.
we've had that discussion before though. what is the type of driver ron can manage well? i think we came up with one driver since the beginning of the 90's.
Thats what they want you to believe!
oddly enough, Senna came from the same mould, yet he got on very well with Ron.
it's less of a personality thing than it is a sign of the times, i guess. many of the drivers ron had issues with came from this decade (or the end of the last one) - DC, Kimi, JPM, Alonso all had issues with Ron.
ron has a very inflated opinion of his ability to manage people.
also, he wanted to annoy flav.
But he knew about it and was complicit in the cheating - how else would he have operated the illegal traction control for example?
:D
Any driver who did as they are told and fits into the McLaren mold were drivers Ron managed well because they didn't go against him and were better off for it.
At least those two won titles with him - Prost even won 3 at McLaren.
I like ron.
He has a strange idea about what a racing team's public culture should be, but building mclaren into what it is today is very impressive.
Clearly that means Ron's style of managment hadn't changed so drivers came to the team with different experiences and couldn't work under Ron.
But both were compelled to leave because they felt the team didn't support them.
He may of known about it but what can he do tell them to change it? he does that then he could very well have been looking for another drive.
He tried to blackmail the team to slowdown his teammate and let him win all the races!
Surely the more that comes out, the worse he will look.
say ron!
Bernie favoured Ferrari because that is where the money is. Bernie personally negotiated the deal to take Schumacher from Jordan to Benetton. When it wa getting down to the nitty gritty of the deal Schumacher started complaining and said he would stay at Jordan. Bernie told him to shut up and go to bed and in the morning he would be a Benetton driver. Don't be surprised if it comes out in the future that Bernie negotiated the deal to take him to Ferrari
Agreed, but in the last few years under Ron the team seemed cold in my opinion. With Montoya and Alonso being the fiery characters they are it was never going to work out.
hehe :D
Would JPM and FA work out in the current Whitmarsh-led McLaren?
I dont see any reason for him to make that up that is rational.
Alonso hasnt exactly convincingly set the record straight.
Who knows what the truth is - but Alonso is doing a great job keeping quiet considering how much his name got dragged through the mud because of it!
I think so, I've noticed a change in McLaren this year and Hamilton is starting to seem more human.
because he's not allowed too.
He can't McLaren made sure of that.
That says to me that the worst is yet to come out.
would be interesting. martin was there the whole time, and it's not like he didn't have chance to intervene.
Whats McLaren going to do? sue him?
That will make the sponsors look really bad.
If he wanted to speak out he could.
Very true but Ron was in charge so Martin would have had to along with what Ron wanted.
Exactly. And that shows how strong his character is that he can carry on and not say or leak anything out. If it was me I would be aching to set the record straight and clear my name!
they let him out of a contract early an bought his silence.
who knows what they can do?
he's says he can't and ron says he can't.
Hehe, he lets out little bits every so often.
Sorry James but that is naive. Schumacher was famous for his attention to detail. Besides there is clear evidence that he used the illegal launch control that was hidden in the Benetton menu system.
Until Schumacher went to Ferrari Ron had the most successful team in history so he must be doing something right.
They threatened him with some kind of exit clause that would have stopped him joining a top team. Who knows how long the NDA he signed will last?
But at the end of the day he was just a driver, if he told the team to change he would have risked his drive.
The only thing they could do is take him to ourt, and he knows as well as they do they wouldn't do that unless he liabled/slandered.
I think he has as much that he doesnt want to come out as the team do.
Exactly. You can't say "Oh Schumi, he was so great he almost built the car by himself and had great attention to detail" and then say "but he didn't know the cars were illegal"...
If the NDA says so, they could take him to court and stop him driving for another team.
Well, he was doing something right. But why has he struggled to win titles since? He's only won 3 drivers titles and 1 constructors title since 1992.
That said, he's still more successful than a lot of other teams right now.
you're clearly not listening to what the man says. it's almost exactly the opposite.
They wouldnt do that though.
The sponsors would stop them, bernie would stop them.
They would look ridiculous.
you think bernie isn't involved?? madness. alonso is the only thing keeping spanish fans tuned in.
The guys who succeeded at McLaren were drivers who were interested in winning and faster than their team mate. Alonso wasn't faster than Hamilton. If he had been everyone would now be saying that McLaren is Team Alonso and Ron destroyed Lewiss's career
No i just cant see any reason for alonso not to speak out unless Mclaren have more dirt on him.
Toro Rosso explains why it avoids Q3
So, wait, they only figured this out AFTER Vettel left? ;)
Oh that's very funny!
that is brilliant!
loves it.
I love number 10
wow. they took sutil's qually performance really personally, didn't they?
Just got an email from TAG Heuer.
They've just created a mobile phone.
The MEREDIIST
It's a beauty.
yup.
That looks amazing...
Bet the price is in Vertu land though
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1312703
Any ideas as to why Rubens had his helmet on here?
When the email says,
you KNOW it's expensive.
Perhaps he didn't feel like any 'bla bla bla'
Or he arrived by motorcycle?
maybe he rode a motorbike to the circuit?
Bats?
:P
the cap's lighter to carry.
:D
Someone should tweet him about it
worlds worst disguise?
The answer to Piquet's twitter competition was:
In case anyone was wondering :)
I bet Max is annoyed Flintoff's retirement trumped his in the British media...
that's not a lot of testing?
:D
I know, I'd hate to compare it to the amount Alonso has done :D
He's probably pulling this face
Ted News: Ted Blog :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/2009/07/ted-kravitz-the-german-gp-from.html
(sorry amy)
I didn't know Max had retired. I wonder how long he has retired for. I assume that so many people will ask him to unretire that he will have no choice but to comply.
About half of that was in November/December in the R28!
But he already turned down those asking him to unretire...
What on earth does he mean by that? Surely he is not getting back together with his wife after all this time?
Maybe he is? I guess what happened to his son woke him up to what he needed to do with his family...
PF Chat still not loading for me. :((
proper ted news :)
Because Ron didn't realise how good Lewis was going to be.
I still maintain that if you look back to the first few races in 2007 - Alonso was getting the optimum fuel strategies, and the team were very happy for him to be the team leader.
However when Lewis started beating him, he threw a strop, and I think that set alarm bells ringing in Ron's head - which then lead to the trouble in the second half of the year.
Many people criticize Ron for letting Lewis and Alonso race each other. However the 2007 championship would have been really boring if it was gifted to Alonso from the start. This is supposed to be Motor Racing.
There is a lot of truth in that. Although perhaps that should be "Alonso wasn’t faster than Hamilton - Often enouph"
But look at the way in which "team Prost" became "team Senna" back in the late 80's
Love the bit about Webber loving the drink... That's like the Good Old Ted News!
Still amazed he doesn't have a proper blog. If anything, he's the most deserving man to be called the BBC F1 Mole.
and the slot gap cleaners :)
There is no news like ted news,
There is no better news I know.
afternoon :)
yep both he and Jenson tend to use the helmet livery they aren't using for the race on their bikes. Jenson is using his black liveried helmet, and last time i saw Jessica was using his old union jack liveried one.
I think he is now using his push the button one as his spare as it has his sponsor on it
People just ignore the history. Ron always backed the best driver. Any new driver was given a fair chance to show what he could do and if like Senna he was good enough the previous favourite was dropped.
To me Montoya's preoblems were his faut and Alonso's problems were his. Montoya for me was always over-rated by a lot of people. He was fast but being fast and being good are not the same thing.
Absolutely... It's the little details like this that make things really fun. I was telling some people earlier about the way that Jean Todt used to have the same piece of wood sewn into his race suit every week just so he could constantly touch wood throughout the weekend.
That was a Ted News I'm pretty sure.
i saw that too. he wont be using it for too long though i don't think. the idea of the competition was to auction off the helmet for charity like last year.
Ron favored Kimi, but even Kimi had issues with Ron...
Kimi wanted Magnums but Ron would only allow Cornettos because they were mor aesthetically pleasing.
:D
I think Kimi has issues with just about the whole of F1
This is just plain funny.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090715111857.shtml
Its GMM from bild, but its worth a laugh
What is it with that family and team orders?
Oh, probably shouldn't be stirring that nest of hornets again..
I don't remember Ralf or Michael being so keen on team orders at Spa 1998
#sidepodspace update
We have go for tanking. They have started filling the fuel tank again. We have 60% chance of good weather for tonight's launch attempt.
60% doesn't seem like a lot.
If it's a no-go, they drain the tank?
It's the best we have had recently. We have had one attempt at 40% but the last two attempts have been 60%. It shows what happens when the government is signing the cheques. If this was a commercial business they would never go on a 60% chance
Yes. They have filled it and drained it 5 times now.
But how often does it go higher than 60%?
Christine
Have you e-mailed Franck yet?
Wouldn't fancy the job of siphoning that
Not sure. I think it depends on the time of year
wow.
I think they should just take the lid of and afte most of it has vented just burn it off
Half a million gallons every time.
Yes sir.
btw i've no idea how many people have seen this already, but if you have any shots of anything Brawn GP related, like drivers or cars or whatever you can send them to [email protected] if you would like them to appear on Brawn's new fan gallery feature that is to be launched over the Hungarian GP weekend.
blimey!
yay!! :)
Did you ask him to do an interview?
Nice to see a team letting the fans outsoething on their site. Have you sent your stalker pictures in?
Not yet.
yes i've sent a few. i like that they've got their own title now, even if it was Jenson stalking us :P
The way I see it if he left his personal e-mail address he wants you to talk to him.
Ooooh - I like that way of thinking! :D
Ah, I like this.
I figured I'd see if I got a response first. Nothing yet, but he is out and about in Canada doing busy things, so perhaps he hasn't had time to Google himself again yet.
You need to ask about his leg and if he is doing the Petit LeMans
I did wish him well with the leg.
This is a public service announcement.
When using satnav - double check that that destination is the one you want.
I've gone about 100 miles out of my way... Bum.
I wasn't paying attention and selected Nuremberg rather than Nurberg - Just a teeny tiny difference.
:D
Oh noes! :(
Will you still push through with the Nurburgring.
Transcribing update, I've been lazy today and have only done 5 minutes so far. Currently 25 minutes done and a word count of 5493 (thats more than I was doing to Uni assignments ;))
?
at least you're still smiling :D
Amazing!! We heart you.
An easy mistake anyone can make, Bernie thought it was the Nuremberg Rally and not the Nurburgring GP last week
how are you commenting on the road flibster?
:D
seconded.
Yay I'm hearted :D
But in future I say you need to get some software to do this all for you :lol:
hehe, I remember asking for idrections when i was in Nurenberg.
Lots of confused germans
You are lucky you only went 100 miles out of your way. Nuremberg is a long way away.
there is none. but thankyou for helping.
I took a break from mine before and came back to see Ted News with a #sorryamy. That'll teach me to stop.
darn, oh well.
Amy I wouldn't worry, you work a lot faster than I do :)
We heart you too Amy. Did you see that your first transcript went up on the site yesterday?
I wasnt sure how do read that report.
One way he is negotiating, another he is as good as gone.
Got to turn around and head back the way I came...
D'OH!
I've pulled over for a drink. Using my phone, it's 3g and Remote Desktop. or some reason all the live commenting options have stopped working on it at the moment. Plus laptop is in the boot.
I dont want to diminsh everyones amazing work... (well done guys :D )
But is there a reason for the transcripts?
I did and I felt bad for not putting full stops at the end of all my paragraphs. So this one has full stops.
It's a part of sidepodbrainwashing.
oh yes. accessibility. no-one gets excluded.
Hehe.
I like this line "Indeed, while acknowledging Kovalainen's strengths as a fast driver and a thoroughly good bloke"
If I had a team I would totally pick drivers based on whether they were "thoroughly good blokes."
My team would probably be rubbish.
i thought you said you left your phone on your bed with your camera back home?
It was for a few years
ah :D
I actually know someone in Aus that writes TV subtitles for a living..
it's so much easier to look back through a transcript when looking for something that was said at one point than it is to listen to the show again, take the rehearsal the other day for example. Mr C wanted to know what sections the digests were split up into and going to the transcript was the best way to find out. :)
They were a godsend for the best of shows in 2007. And for half of '08 ;)
Can you search audio yet?
I was just wondering where I could get a job that is just typing stuff all day. Then I remembered talking to one of the girls at my old job whose job it was to transcribe dictations from doctors and how it made her want to jump off the helipad.
Hello everyone. I thought I caught a little about Heikki's negotiation. It was reported in the US that Nico is being considered for Mclaren? Does anyone think that is a step up. I think Heikki has been plagued by bad luck, but is every bit as good as Nico? Any comments>
there was a company a while back. they vanished though.
I type all day at the moment, my job now is esentially web development but I enjoy it so it's worth it :)
was in the bottom of my bag under everthing - Was positive I had left it at home though.
Ex-work phoned me and it vibrated against my belt. They are not happy. :D
Yeah.. she does get paid to watch tv all day.
She also gets it a lot earlier than people see it obviously.
Apparently she finds it very tricky to talk to people who watch soap operas! :P
There are two other companies... Autonomy and Google. But Google's isn't ready for showtime. And Autonomy's is on the expensive side.
ace. have a safe trip then :)
actually:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2007/08/14/f1-podcast-search/
still going.
That looks usefull,
What was the player that you embedded in doohicky the other day about?
sometimes I feel like the only person who visits sidepodcast who doesn't know any sort of coding language :D
soundcloud. scoble recommended them. a service for the music industry, but has visual chapters which is interesting.
Hehe I'm sure there are others. We talk about it because Mr C is a good source of knowledge :)
McLaren wanted Nico before they signed Heikki and offered a lot of money to him to sign but his father told him not to sign. Keke Rosberg used to own a kart team which ran Lewis and Nico as team mates and Nico didn't come out ahead. If he couldn't do it in a team owned by his father he is unlikely to do at McLaren. I doubt there is much between Heikki and Nico.
Will do.
Ring opens in a couple of hours - 119.7 miles to go.
Nice and dry too which should be good for my super sticky tyres.
no i assure you, you aren't alone. i had a go at coding once, i got confused, angry and upset. So i know nothing about it, and am happy for it to stay that way :)
You are not alone. I am totally clueless
Nico has the hair.. He is german as well as finnish and i think if there performance was level then Nico would be a better bet in terms of marketing.
I think he might be a bit quicker. He also has more experience and has had to help develop the car with Williams.
His friendship with lewis will help him too.
{sorry amy} I like Heikki I promise :)
In case anyone is interested Virage (which is Autonomy's product) is the thing that does the live text detection for the subtitles on the news.
They have a demo somewhere which proves that while they do clearly make mistakes on that live transcription (an incredible thing when you think about the processing going on) that if they slow down by even 5% then they can get almost 100% accuracy.
http://www.virage.com/rich-media/index.htm
I think Sutil would be a good choice for McLaren, he gets on well with Lewis, his performances in the Force India have been good and he knows how to get in the way of the Ferrari's.
I struggle with the wiki :P
I do regret not doing Comp Sci at Uni, when I was a kid I taught myself HTML and I was always fiddling around with the computer. I know I could go back...maybe I will one day.
Is this the sort of thing channel 5 would use on their football comentry.
Becuase the subtitles for that are a comedy show in their own right!
i can see how it would work on the bbc. but the heck could any system cope with conversations we have? especially skype calls.
Sutil is just too big physically.
Pfff, Finnish. Fake Finnish. Speaks every language in the world except Finnish.
Join the club,
Howdy all, another hull vanished, somehow i dont think ronseals claim of "It does exactly what it says on the tin" is going to stand for my current project....
There never be a stupider phrase to a bottle boat builder than "fully waterproof"
hmm
I don't know... It probably wouldn't. Google's one is being designed especially for pointing it at YouTube.
"Finn Nico Rosberg has closed to within six points of GP2 championship leader Heikki Kovalainen with two second places at Monza this weekend.
Rosberg was second to countryman Kovalainen in the first race on Saturday and then chased Swiss Neel Jani home in the second on Sunday."
Silly confused Nico ;)
could be interesting. may have to investigate.
Grrr... Fake Finnish... Grrr. ;)
That said, I'm surprised that for someone with a Finnish fad, he barely knows any Finnish.
I mean dad. ;)
If he is the only finn in f1 next year would you support him?
BBC label him as German, maybe he's just indecisive
He was born in Germany.
No. I've never liked Nico, even before I realised I had this Finn-thing.
He raced as a Finn when he was in GP2, but had to change to Germany for F1 for some rule about passports or which country endorses your super license or something or rather that I read and promptly forgot.
How will you support Mclaren with Nico and Lewis there?
Maybe you will warm to them?
I was born in Southampton....dosen't mean i often like to forget tat i was....maybe he's not indecisive, maybe he just realises that Finland is a better country
I'd be annoyed to grow up and realise my parents hadn't taught me the language of their culture. I remember reading that he couldn't really communicate with his paternal grandparents. Although he learnt four languages, so he can't be too unhappy. I hate being monolingual.
money.
there's a bigger potential audience in germany.
I could support Lewis. I might warm to Nico but I'd never fully embrace him. I remember him being hyped as a future world champion pretty early in his career because he scored one point or something, but I can't think of any drive he has had where he actually impressed me.
You may or may not know a company called SpinVox who do a really cool (and really works) thing which picks up your voicemail for your and e-mails you the voicemail message turned into text with an attachment with the sound file...
...turns out they've done a deal with Audio-Boo to add automatic transcription for Boos... Announced this week...
http://www.podcastingnews.com/2009/07/10/iphone-podcasting-service-adds-automatic-voice-to-text-transcription/
Well there was but that was before Glock, Vettel and Sutil turned up.
he only has to be the fastest. vettel probably stuffed his plans mind you.
Fastest lap in his first ever race i believe
ooh. didn't know that. cheers.
and fancy TV intros with rows of Germans looking all intimidating.
I didn't either... Random timing.
i shall forward them lukeh's first voicemail from goodwood and see what comes out of it :)
A driver's nationality depends on which country issues his racing license. As far as I know Nico has always been German but everyone assumed he was Finnish. For some reason at Le Mans McNish had a Monaco license and and a Monaco flag next to his name in the car.
cool :) Maybe we'll find out what he said!
The licence is many many many thousands of pounds cheaper
I thought you knew Spanish
There is some austrian guy in GP2 pretending to be from the UAE
One for the list ;)
http://create.spinvox.com/index.php?pageid=0
learning. Slowly. I could handle general tourist Spanish but thats about it so far.
Send the really really bad.wav
It might break everything!
:)
doesn't seem to do long passages of audio though? it wouldn't even get through a mini series episode would it?
:)
Well I'm not sure if once you sign up for the dev program you can get it to do other things. Maybe the audioboo guys are doing something funky
in fact:
Duration of The Message: Maximum acceptable length of the message will be 30 seconds.
that's not even a comments worth?
You mean it cant do what im currently trying for it to do, and get it to do a debrief?
shall do just that :)
:(
you are?
i think you may struggle.
Yay!
yeah, its not working ;)
yikes. $35.00 for 100 credits.
I thought The Hair couldn't speak Finnish? He certainly sounds like a natural when he speaks German...
His mother is German and he never learned Finnish
For Christine and Me, on the last debrief "The Race" section had over 4300 words ;)
Listening to you two slowed down makes it sound like you've been drinking :lol:
Surely the wine spilling over his Max gave that away at normal speed
I've just read the story about Todt being named as Max's preferred successor to the FIA throne. I'm not sure that they'll be able to get him through a vote given how close he's been to ferrari in the recent past.
At risk of making a cheap joke thats already been done... The teams are fed up with the FIA being an autocracy run "by fiat", so the man from ferrari was the natural choice.
i had.
Ok...
drunk then :P
Not when we did the debrief you hadn't.
Clearly he has drunk so much he doesn't remember.
ahh no. unnamed, but original, cola drink.
if it happened before yesterday, i have no recollection.
LOL (I know I have only just caught up with comment #1, you don't need to tell me)
I've been thinking about this, the way he said his name in that video make me think to say it like Amy with a H at the start so Hamy although that looks different when I type it out.
Mr Jimmy Superaguri
Do you guys know Suzi Perry from The Gadget Show and the BBC MotoGP coverage is recovering from Meningitis? Send a tweet @suziperry coz she really likes the messages of support!
She had that before the Moto GP season started
Lukeh, when you read this can you please make a photoshop picture of Jean Todt as a toad with a crown on his head? It would look really funny!
Why is no one calling for Fisichella to be sacked from force india?
Surely he is more deserving of it than PK?
Seems like she's had another bout of it then...
Apparently people still like him. IMO he's been overdue for a sacking since 2007!
Fisi's actually been closer to the points more often than Sutil has.
This season, anyway. :)
But hes old and not getting better suti is!
Well, the rumors are that he's retiring after this season anyway, and that Liuzzi is replacing him...
So why wait?
I hate to cause a stir, but I fancy there's an awful lot of feedback to be gained from this rather intelligent and non-violent community. I am used to those who complain on the basis that my business model is a threat to those who began treading around F1 paddocks in the 80s and 90s, and indeed those who still do, but I must admit to being interested in knowing more about why people with no vested interests are similarly outspoken. Call me masochistic, but I invite a conversation in which I can reply directly to your criticisms, or (and I know your numbers may be drearily few in this realm), your support. Condemn you may, but never shall I be accused of cowardice in the jaws of denunciation! Christine, or those otherwise in charge, I invite you to email me to arrange a time: 'Great GMM debate?' You ain't seen nothing yet!
I guess Fisi's doing well enough - well enough not to get sacked midseason, anyway.
And they might give Fisi a chance to race at Monza one last time.
To thank him for his efforts and allow him to bow out gracefully?
And that too.
Ooooh, look who's left a comment. Lemme read...
Were you around the first time we really got talking about GMM? I don't think so, no?
I wonder if Christine will say yes to this one...
really? i thought the reason she missed the start of the Moto GP season was because she was recovering from an ectopic pregnancy not meningitis?
Didn't he comment here before? That was just a load of tosh. Go away GMM man, we're not interested in your tabloid rubbish!
Gavin, that's hardly the intelligent comments of which he speaks, is it?
Damn, no internet this evening... what a shame!
Are you talking about the quiz?
I want that t-shirt! :D
Hmm I perhaps am more moderate than most.
My constructive criticism would be.
1) Please avoid the more sensationalist and tabloidy stories.
2) Please cite the sources from where the news originally came from so people can judge where it came from. I see you do do this some of the time.
Why is it unintelligent? I am very sick of seeing the aggregated stories misquoted and used as fact. He's only here to cause a stir and he could have just contacted you privately.
I should be allowed to react to Mr.GMM's post too shouldn't I?
And headlines, too.
I know I'm not Lukeh ;) http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/todt-jpg
Joe says: what they do is they suck in all the people who have got money to feed the freelancers and basically it puts the pressure on the freelancers because the money that used to be out there isn’t there anymore.. You are actually destroying what you’re feeding off. Unless you have those good sources of information to steal, you won’t have the valuable information so it becomes harder and harder to actually tell the world that you’re an expert because you know less and less, so in the overall scheme of things the quality of Formula One news will go down if this is allowed to go on. It is just an inevitability.
And I just noticed you said as a toad, oops :D
Your business model is not a threat to people reporting news. You are just re-hashing anyything you can find without bothering to find out if there is any basis to it. What you do is no different to what any commenter on this site does apart from the fact that you call it news and charge for it.
utter rubbish. andrew we already this debate here:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/02/03/f1-websites-you-can-trust/#comment-185316
and you came out of it looking very bad indeed. or have you forgotten that conversation already?
Of course. You can react to what he said however you choose.
Am not sure I agree with you telling people to "go away", though. That's more our domain.
That's a good start - cheers!
Was it? I knew she was very ill and I thought meningitis. I probably have my stories mixed up.
unrelated - i assume Steven has mentioned the space shuttle take off in 6 hours (if it's on schedule!) - and now I'll disappear again ;)
An Audio version of that might be interesting, and educational for some listeners.
OK fair enough - I guess i could have said that bit better but I stand by the rest of my statement!
I like that
Yes, he has. :D
I agree :)
I refuse to say it will take off. It is scheduled to launch then but whether it does or not is anyone's guess
of course he has, but i thought i'd double up, and was too apathetic to read all the comments (busy day).
agreed. there is no debate to be had, and we are not being dragged into anything that will likely serve to be a nothing more than a cheap-assed advertising stunt.
Good afternoon everyone, how is the sidepodworld today?
Looking forward to the quiz tonight and the lclt is still a bit slow, i blame firefox.
beautiful use of the language there. I won't be online much today so I won't "invest" lots of hours watching them abort. But when I'm in the USA, I think I might have to take holidays in Florida for a week to watch one of these beasts go up. I'll live comment and make you all jealous ;)
OK then Mr GMM, Here's my response to your post:
Please stop using other people's material to make a profit for yourself - you're biting the hand that feeds you. Also, please be more responsible with what you post - sometimes you have been very loose with the facts and all it does is anger people who have to check if the stories are true or not.
This is especially important because it seems that a lot of sites are purchasing your news stories and not revealing that they are your stories - which means that it makes it harder for the real F1 fans to find out whether the stories are reliable or not.
Finally, if you must operate at a distance from the F1 paddock, then please cultivate and pay for better sources who have proper inside knowledge - only then will I be able to start trusting your stories as factual.
I am jealous already.
They should by now have finished filling the fuel tank again. NASA still saying 60% chance of good weather. NASA TV coverage starts in 45 minutes
saves me a trip then ;) if these things went on schedule, i probably would have already gone by now.
Hehe. They get me into all sorts of trouble on this site!
Indeed.
Can't take a joke then? Sounds quite mild compared to what some people are saying...
the teams, the sponsors, they are ballistic about these people as well because they have to deal with the fallout of if you have a story that someone’s slamming somebody else and it appears in twenty places, they have to deal with that. The sponsors get into a panic about it and they ring up the team and say “why is this happening” and the teams say “this isn’t true.” And entire Formula One press conferences are wasted discussing things that are not true. People have to ask the question because there it is, “don’t forget to ask about this” and you say “it’s not true” and they say “it doesn’t matter it’s been in the newspapers, it must be true”
I think he didn't mind the joke, but he did wonder why it was happening, I think.
that was a Joe quote too. I need to sleep but I'm enjoying my typing.
:D
There is also a big risk that people might take ralph's opinion seriously if it is so widely circulated
just to clarify. joe didn't actually mention any names did he?
No, I don't think you did on that show either.
the wider the circulation, the more chance people will believe it.
"i read it here and here" etc. the fact the stories all came from the same misinformed source apparently make no odds.
no. Start of the train of thought is this:
Me: We are aware of one of those such companies and we’ve mentioned them on the show in the past, we’ve mentioned them on the website. How many beyond the main one are there doing this then, are there other companies out there doing similar?
Joe: Not many.
Theres no "apparently" about it if sites aren't telling us that they all came from the same place... We've no alternative but to see it as several places reporting it
thought so. completely understand you're putting two and two together, but that bit is important.
;)
My 'Train of Thought' home seems to be taking aaaages today!
sites that source content from said company are supposed to quote the initials. problem is that doesn't mean anything to anyone.
there's only a small number of people who will double-check sources and we've had to batter people around the heads here, until they understand the implications of quoting stories from unconfirmed sources.
before we understood, we used to do the same. but hopefully we're all getting wiser by the day. the best thing anyone can do is write to a site paying for the services of any non-credible syndicated news service and suggest they stop contributing to the echo chamber.
trulli train of thought?
Seems like it today. I'm not fussed - more time to play with my new toy and blog before I head to the 'Outpost' later :)
Afternoon all :)
howdy alison.
What does GMM stand for anyway?
Good afternoon peeps, is it safe to come back yet? :)
giggles made-up media?
Depends on what you were avoiding...
hey sir!
Hehe I know that, what about the other one? :P
no mate, I'm still here ;)
You haven't been on the picket line, perchance?
Where do I start, Max, politics...
Nah, just kidding - those things will never leave :)
How are we all?
global motorsport media
could never find there website for ages cos i didn't know what it meant. When i find it, its uninformitave
Nope, Engineering are doing their bit like the Pilots
It's expenses-happy cabin crew that have the issues
[I didn't say that]
Hey, you back from your trip?
Was it good.
Mr C thought you might have fancied a stroll to nova scotia...
Isn't it always. Hang in there bud, you'll be fine. Where did you go for your trip?
Montreal was fab, despite not meeting any Sidepodders we just got drunk with regular Canadians
Felt like we did but we didn't walk it to Nova Scotia, though I was given loads of State Flag Badges by some dudes from there [no idea why!]
Right, will get some sleep pre-quiz.
I'm hoping the PF chat page works properly for me by then.
Later!
Montreal, walked the circuit too [was quite eerie]
I walked the circuit after Le Mans. It's like you feel the spirit of the place...
Sad to see it starting to decay though
Oh Cog. Nice weather all day until 5 mins from home and it's raining Biblically.
See you tonight all and good luck with the quiz!
But they still race there?
Do they?
Didn't look like it
ooh, i think i fell asleep there. whoops. how are we all?
Maybe that's how old circuits look between races
Joe in Fla said he was going to a NASCAR race there last night
I Think Florida Joe was thinking of heading up there for a nscar event
Is that not a street race?
Pitlane looked decidedly unused but I guess when the trucks roll in it transforms
Apparently it IS used for NASCAR
Im not sure if he said stock cars or sports cars
Either way, we saw plenty of Marmots :)
About the transcripts: When you read out e-mails, do you keep them and can they just be copy-pasted or do they have to been transcribed as well?
I should have them all somewhere. Personally, I find it easier to just transcribe it, but if it's a particularly long one, I do have them all stored away.
Hehe I was going to ask that at some point. I will need help with the name of someone who emailed in though the DJ ;)
DJ Hanninen.
Thank you :)
Rubens has a Mac
Is that some sort of weird multi-finger, trackpad gesture he's attempting?
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/poor-old-max-oh-god-not-todt/
haha Joe named his dogs Max and Bernie
hahah, amazing
"I also had a dog called Bernie, but he was way too much trouble and had to be given away after less than a year"
:D
I also love his post before about Renault, pretty much sums up how i feel about the Renault-Piquet situ
Evening.
Evening sire. how be thou?
Not too bad, standard frustrating day of work followed by a nice evening fingers crossed. Although lots of ncie stuff this evening to keep me amused :D
Hey Lukeh, still Photoshopping?
Liked the Ruben's pic
Lukeh was it true about Muse? (RE: Tweet)
Not really relevant, but i feel a need to link to this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy0OrBJ056k
Yep. 30 second clip of the intro to one of the songs off the new album. Basically they've started a treasure hunt around Europe and Asia telling people to go certain places at certain times to find certain things (which actually did happen, it wasn't some conpiracist joke amazingly!) and it's resulting in, when found, the progressive uploading of parts of the song. :)
Cool :D
Has anyone posted this yet?
Ye Olde Sidepodspace: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/07/remembering_apollo_11.html
am just watching the goodwood program on the itv player. i'd forgotten just how annoying Steve Ryder was :(
Nice pics
Which rubens pic? don't remember making a recent one...
No
Surfing sidepodcast
Ooooooooh. :D
Sorry, my mind will soon catch up.
Unless its real :P
First Franck, then Rubens. Its going off here.
Kimi's browsed SPC too.
jonny n. thinks kimi may be interested in a seat at brawn, or failing that ferrari may have to swap alonso for massa:
http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2281
rubens and nick have apparently approached williams. nico now favourite to partner kubica.
a good read indeed.
These guys should lean about doohicky, they always seem to be using ye olde commenting!
Oops, I mean Heikki or lewis, not Kimi. I can't remember which one it was...
i'm going to have to get me an autosport subscription at one point..
Damn subscription.
At BMW?
I heard that the other day, i am not sure what he could add to brawn, especially if they are chasing sponsors?
me neither. i can see nico at bmw though.
Who's going to Mclaren?
Sounds like AUTOSPORT are doing their own version of who's on first. Just shuffle the names round and as soon as one team announces a driver you have suggested is going elsewhere explain why that makes other moves likely.
sorry, yes.
it doesn't say, but i assumed so.
lineup to remain if kovi pulls up his allstars.
So can I. He seems to fit.
That was mentioned in the Finnish tabloids before the race. Kimi's manager said: "that's rubbish"
He turned the car off!
I really cant see him staying. I could see him at brawn though
if Rubens goes to Williams who will take his seat at Brawn? Senna?
doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. jonny also says kimi may just sit on his contract and refuse to budge.
Why would Massa trade a Ferrari contract for a Renault one? This is the usual bull accompanying the Alonso to Ferrari rumours. They never think out other people's motives. Last year Kimi was going to walk away from Ferrari but because that did't happen Massa is. Massa is in a position where he is convinced with goof readon that he has the beating of his team mate and the likelihood that Ferrari will have a competitive car next season. Why would he want to sign for Renault?
Rubens at williams?
Huh.
Hopefully Paul di Resta
Does kimi have a pre recorded message for a manager?
'Thats rubbish' is all i ever hear he has said!
you WHA? Kovi go to Brawn!?! i hope not! (a thousand sorrys amy)
:D
possibly yup. there should be a spare seat at renault though, maybe flav will take him back?
It's just people trying to make the Alonso to Ferrari story work. Kimi would be far more suited to the Brawn than the Ferrari.
Hmm, I don't think so. I reckon Grosjean will be there next season.
Unless your talking about Alonso leaving, in which case possibly, or a swoop for Davidson/Rubens?
:)
Unless Flav makes him the lead driver i cant see Heikki going anywhere near him!
"Rubens Barrichello and Nick Heidfeld are covering their future options, with both having made approaches to Williams about their situation"
it's written as fact, rather than speculation.
That's annoying. :(
i'm not good with big changes, Rubens going to Williams would upset me... i hope he gets to stay at Brawn. :)
#sidepodspace update
We are currently under a number of weather violations for launch. About 5 different violations at present. About 4 and a half hours to go though
davidson is a no, no. unless kers is for keeps. plus i'd rather he kept commentating.
I could see Ant go there.
Guess who was spotted in the Williams motorhome having a discussion with frank on Sunday?
Do I need to write another letter?
Glad you said that, don't like him, don't want him in a team, i like him commentating though.
I am sure all sorts of drivers reps are talking to all sorts of teams and by definition the vast majority of them can never happen.
Maybe the letter didn't get there last time..
try a fax?
David Coulthard to Williams?!
Can't wait to see Jakey beating Nakajima
He tested one 10 days ago.. :P
...but no, not him
It's all fitting into place now. We've caught you Mr Williams
Looking at the pictures now it is not at all good. They are going ahead with loading the crew soon but this is the worst weather I have seen so far.
They just repreated the list of violations and it is 6 in total.
This will need to be a good letter.
I think next year might be his last at Williams, i think frank might want control over his drivers again and switch back to cosworth in 2011
A strongly worded letter?
I think so.
episode 95 done and dropioed. Thank you for not making the rest of them that long :D
thaaaaank you amy!
now i should sleep. when did it become almost 4am?
Unbelievable!!!
sleep well.
You are crazy, i did that the other day.
Dont get a song you dont know the name of stuck in your head!
Night though, i am sure you will be please i found heikki a seat at brawn... ;)
Good night Amy
Heikki isn't going to Brawn.. i wont let him (sorry again)
night Amy!
I am sure she would have been happier if you had found him a seat there this year when they have a good car.
I love the Apollo XI big picture.
Thats Bernie's fault, i have only just taken over the placing of drivers ;)
do you mean they wont have a good car next year???
We don't know who will have a good car next year
oh right. okay :) phew i thought you were going to suggest they would be rubbish next year. :D
They might be. Who would have thought McLaren and Ferrari would have been as bad this year. It may be that the problem with all the Honda designs was that they had too much weight on the front and this year's tyre rules suit that. If Bridgestone bring in the narrower tyres next year they could be back in the same mess as the earthnightmare car.
They might want to get some some sponsors if they dont want to slide into Minardi territory.
Although if people like manor can get them i cant see why brawn cant. unless nick fry is doing something completely wrong.
Sidepodspace - the Beeb have a new space blog.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/jonathanamos/
A quick hi. I'm not here. Doing this podcast thing in a mo, and hoping to quiz at the same time..
They absolutely will.
I have the utmost faith in Nick Fry.
Yes I am sober.
I think they are crazy if they don't sign some major multi-year deals in the next few weeks. They may have already missed the point where their value maximised. Three races ago they were invincible and guaranteed both championships but they did not cash in on it. Now they are not worth as much because Red Bull is seen as a real threat and McLaren seem to have sorted their car.
okay.. so i'll continue doing what i've been doing and savour every single second of this season for Jenson and Brawn :) so i'll forget about next year till it comes around :)
Have you read their Tech blog lately? Usually I find Rory gets things a bit confused but the last three entries are excellent.
They make such a big deal about how they new toy got all the way to the ISS and docked all on its own. The Russian Progress modules have been doing that for years.
It's like any sport. Enjoy the good times when they happen because they may never happen again.
Automaticly or did they have a controller?
I heard the european one was the first to do it on its own.
...although maybe they pretend the Russians dont exist...
I know the Progress is unmanned. I would have thought it would be easier to do it automatically than to fly it remotely.
#sidepodspace
Weather greatly improved. Well done Christine. We are currently down to two red weather items rather than 6.
I like to do my bit for the greater good.
The teams seem to get some great stuff on the pitwall
Hopefully one day so will we.
http://www.sutton-images.com/previews/d09ger769.jpg
#sidepodspace
They have started loading the astronauts. The commander is getting into his seat now.
How do they stop them from having all the blood go to their head after sitting down on their backs for so long?
I have no idea. It can't be at all comfortable. It also can't help that the guy who dangles in that position the logest is the driver
Looks like they could live comment from there! ;)
Do they have G-suits like fighter pilots?
That would push more blood to their heads.
An on-yer-back version perhaps?
Did I hear correctly that they're installing a porch on the ISS? I swear that's what Canadian TV said
Its called the Japanese exposed module. It is a module for experiments that need to be exposed to space. It is attached to the Japanese Kibo module but I don't think they plan to use it as a porch.
Should they not have brought the rocking chair & Labatt's then? ;)
Or the Japanese equivalent
The phase 2 lightning warning has been downgraded to a phase 1 warning.
The news were raving about some Canadian Astronaut so we just presumed they were either going hunting or chillin' with some beers somewhere up there
Saporro or Kirin perhaps?
There is a Canadian woman on this mission
Hopefully that's a good sign
NASA is calling it a porch in space so I guess that is where the Canadians are getting it from
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts127/overview.html
Canadian astronaut
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/payette.html
Jackie has reminded me that the PF quiz is starting at 8pm BST tonight, ie, 2 minutes. Hurry to win.
Damn. I thought I had half an hour left.
So did I.
Hehe I thought it was RG or Journeyer who asked for it to be early on account of the mega-ness of 50 questions
oops! *gets there*
Dad's just told me Virgin offered us the chance to take part in their super, amazingly fast broad band trial today, but he wants to stick with orange apparently, even though they have cut our bandwidth :(
Doh!
#sidepodspace
We are back to a phase 2 lightning warning
i know! i'm not impressed.
Too close to Pigs (or Pork) in Space for my liking
PIGS... IN... SPAAAAAAAACE :)
Hahah
Is hash-tagging for filtering purposes these days? ;)
Affirmative
Like #Max
Or #Pigs in space
You should put "Is #hash-tagging for #filtering purposes these days?"
I loved Pigs in Space
:D
I'm late. Am doing another thing. Will be there shortly
he just doesn't want us to come live with you.
Agreed
wha? no-one told me?
Maybe he's heard about the pesky owls that follow you
we blow them up now.
how long have you been away?
A day away from the comments is enough to miss gems like that
But, since Thursday and have only just recovered from Jet Lag which isn't cured by 1st Class it seems ;)
haha i'm sure he wouldn't mind, as long as you bring rose or something :P
Unnamed energy drinks and milky bars?
that will suit me. i tried some of the unnamed energy drink earlier on in the week and thought it was nice :) dad wouldn't like either though, silly him.
there are some fun live rehearsals to catchup on when you have the time. longwinded, but all good if you have something to occupy you at the same time.
Mr C: I tried Creme de Menth shots topped with Baileys also work quite well. You should try ;)
Cool
so I just spoke to Declan Brennan, and it wasn't on MWM ;-)
Noooooooooooo, don't listen to him. Bad Bassano.
Yeeeeeucchh!!!!!!!!
coool! was he on fastmachines?
you'll have to show me ;)
Who he?
MWM podcaster?
No on another one, the new one I mentioned the other day. I believe I was terrible.
Am I the only person round here who doesn't deal with ceelbrities?
Shh, Christine will think I'm a bad influence
Got my mate to listen to the podcasts and he was cracking up about your Montreal shout out
No, I never play cards with em either. They cheat
ahh, am sure you were cool. link us when it's published.
what did we say?
Yeah he's the Irish one. He spared us just over 10mins then went straight into MWM :-)
I lost my memory and had more Ummms than Alex on an indecisive day.
Meet him in Montreal. He's a nice chap but he will get you drunk, he's a bad influence
Jet lag is a terrible thing
all true.
That's a lot of Ummms!
Can't argue with it either
#sidepodspace
The last astronaut is getting loaded. Who would have bet that the one woman would be ready last?
All of the astronauts seem very up today so hopefully that is a good sign.
Dealing to celebrities is best avoided when jet-lagged. Cards keep landing face up
Are they playing Primal Scream as they launch, that'd be cool flying music
Just a thought, with Jamie coming into a race seat. Will that mean Brendon Hartley will become reserve driver again?
Good point. No, I don't think so. I think that relationship has been well and truly cut. I think Robert Wickens will get the nod for reserve driver.
Isn't Brendon RBR not STR
I thought he was with both.
He's both - RBR and STR share the same reserve driver.
What if a Red Bull bash gives a few drivers food poisoning?
Maybe it's like airline pilots?
One has Chicken, one has beef
They have a young driver program, they can sort it out themselves ;)
Why did Hartley get ditched so quickly?
They knew they were getting rid of Bourdais, realise Hartley might be a tad inexperienced, so hooked someone else up and left him in the mud.
Ah
I could've told them Bordais was going ages ago ;)
Ok…heres a slightly morbid but potentially fun game…
You’ve just saved someones life, but because you’ve saved theirs, you’re now dieing. You’re lying in front of the person you’ve saved….
What do you say? {Comment #12}
"Get as many helpers as possible, then all of you help save me - quick!". This would probably reduce the risk of anyone dying.
Chicken Chaser!
Hope you enjoy it you lucky b'stard?
:D
Or... That was fun wasn't it?
That's the last ime I'm doing that!
'You better be Timo or I'm dying for nothing'
:D
Evening all :) How are we this fine evening?
i'm alright thanks, just given up on the pf quiz,and am not thinking of blog names.. how are you this evening?
s'alright. Just blogging a funny thing that happened to me the other day...
Getting a blog Lou? ;)
Argh, the quiz! I totally forgot! :(
Apart from that, I've very well. Mum's doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she's just found out she's anaemic as well.
That was impossible. I'm glad I knew the jean alesi question though. 1 is a good target.
Hope she recovers soon, my friend was laid up for about 5 days last week
Wouldnt you die alone while the person went to get the helpers?
She's alright at the moment, according to her she just aches a lot and has a very dry and sore throat.
it's possible. i need a name though, and i'm rubbish at names.
I had anaemia a few years back, not eating enough iron. Hope she gets better.
What's it's subject matter?
Don't worry about the swine flu, most doctors say that you will be allright in about a weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek ;)
Guinness is good for you
How about Photo Finish? Covers photography AND racing all in one.
Eat more red meat?
It'll pass I'm sure. MWM was talking about being anaemic because a bike rider is, recommends Guinness and liver.
just a general one atm i should think. so anything and everything :D
The Wine Flu email going around made me laugh
They're giving her iron tablets for 3 weeks and then after that they'll see how she is.
Ah yes, Casey Stoner. I did read about that on AUTOSPORT.
Thats excellent.
I wondered if he had an ulcer like Sir Jackie did...
Lou's Blog?
Blog Off
What the Blog
[This could go on for a while]
aha that's awesome!
Dex doing his bit for the Emerald Isle again, I see ;)
How about 'The Northern Waffler'
no, thats mine, 'Thoughts of a Trying Athiest' (Awesome blog, I reccomend)
no, thats lukeh. got it, 'Too Much Racing' (Also, awesome) ah man, thats taken
Meh, I'm no good, I like Photo Finish
Guinness & Liver don't go well together
Guinness & Steak pie perhaps
I got something similar
haha :D
Lous fantastic Yuletide blog
(might get more traffic in December ;) )
#sidepodspace update
1 hour 5 minutes to launch and all weather constraints are green.
Good job Christine
Lou's bla bla bla bla blog?
:D
yeah me too :)
Problem is, Rubens would never read it :(
coughTwittercough
Nab it NOW!
You never know. Apparently drivers do read blogs occasionally.
He still wouldn't, he doesn';t want to hear this blah bla blah remember
;) :D
you know i'm not buying a domain right? maybe if i get into blogging, but to start with it will be a free wordpress blog :)
No because all Lou would say would be bla bla bla and he dont wanna hear it, remember?
Worked for James Allen...
Yes. Sorry. I did get it, I just wanted an excuse to talk about Franck again.
i would never do anything to upset Rubens... :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS
Bernie needs a new track for next years german gp
Why not a layout like this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS
ehehe :D
Has he replied yet?
Why is it so hard to decline birthday cream cakes without offending the birthday celebrant? {Comment #179}
Because they're gifts and people hate their gifts being declined, especially when it's "their" day.
The last race there had to be cancelled due to a fatal accident and the track doesn't exist anymore apparently...
booo!! photofinish.wordpress.com already exists :(
grrr
I thought they had a DTM race at Avus a few years ago
What about photofinishblog or thephotofinish?
Got cut up when the Berlin Wall came up, if I'm not mistaken.
Pretend you are Amy and call it photofinnish
lou'sphotofinish?
Wikipedia says they raced on a shortened version. That also ended on safety grounds.
Wikipedia says it wasn't. Oops. :D
They could build a new one... would make an interesting contrast
Hmm a Tilke-AVUS ring. Funny!
It was an insane circuit as mentioned on my guest post on Bernd Rosemeyer
Are their any spiral racetracks?
#sidepodspace
They have just announced that the primary trans-Atlantic abort site will be Moron in Spain with Zaragoza as the back up.
AVUS & Ring don't belong in the same sentence
Too many puns
Yes but that didn't include the banked section, IIRC
I,m still awaiting the first track with loop the loops, waterfalls, walls of fire and jumps through hoops of fire. tilke's got it in his mad mind of his Im sure of it
Only in the Red Bull air races
FIA president Max Mosley has confirmed that he will definitely not stand again in October’s election, AUTOSPORT has learned, {Comment #270}
How many hours before Max goes back on his decision again?
50 minutes to launch and all systems are go. The only negative is the third trans-Atlantic abort site at Istres in France is not useable due to weather but that is not a show stopper.
I don't think he's going back on this one - he's endorsed Todt.
Max is just a big fat liar and needs flame retardent under crackers
Ari FTW!
Not necessarily. I was told today that Ari and Toad go back a long way.
Superspiral race track.
Bridge in green, pits in yellow
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/superspiral-bmp
Can be run in both directions :P
Anyone but Toad, I'm with Mr Saward on this one
He's the puppet master, Todt is just the puppet.
But they're competing AGAINST each other.
But, hey, Max isn't running.
And that's assuming Todt even wins...
That is genius
How solid is the democratic ethic at the FIA?
We're about to find out.
Alright, seriously (nothing funny here), who here would vote for Todt?...
Max already won the vote of confidence this year, I think we know already
That isn't really true. Ari drove for him at Peugeot and before that competed against him. If they were close they would not be challenging each other.
Agreed.
Solid as soup
I think this is different in that Max isn't competing, and that there is now a more credible candidate against his endorsee Todt.
Precisely
Pumpkin soup is quite solid you know ;)
Here's a bit of light relief from my other blog. Enjoy!
As is soup in a can
If you keep it in the can
Max was Bernie's boy abd so is Todt. No difference
Different in the sense that the delegates might actually vote Ari through.
Tired. Need to zone out to something.
So apparently, it's ok to fly an empty plane to a far-away country that allows insect disinfestation because to do it in the home country is not good for the environment, according the EU
[This is all theoretical, obviously]
Designing circuits is awesome...
I have done another... http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/track-2-jpg
I tend to doodle random tracks during my lectures... no idea why...
Ooh, Snetterton crossed with Bahrain?
I like it, other than the sharp right hander at the start.
Its a saftey requirement i think
I think the sharp one is the pitlane and the curvy one is the track?
It is? I would have thought more accidents occur that way :P
Sharp one is the track, could be smothed out a bit, but i think it has to be a slow corner...
Finaly a use for MS paint!
hehe, i dont know bahrain.
I did sneak in a mini version of turkey turn 8
Ah I see what your getting at, definatly needs smoothing out I think.
#sidepodspace
25 minutes to go and it looks like we are flying tonight
I want this to be a track
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/track-jpg
It even has a key
You're welcome.
Quiz results about to be announced.
I know I am not winning.
ahem
http://www.quikmaps.co.uk
http://wiki.sidepodcast.com/page/Quikmaps
You have to get it off the ground first. Anything can happen in the next half hour
Ok i tidied up turn 1 and added numbers.
Anyone fancy naming the corners of the sidepodring?
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sidepodring-jpg
Wow...
Shame i cant put that track anywhere...
1 - Timo Turn
2 - The Super Duper Glock Turn
3 - The one where Timo Goes For the Lead, Turn
Actually, I might be biased
And people think the EU should have more power!
I like 1.
That can stay :P
I didn’t know Max had retired. I wonder how long he has retired for. I assume that so many people will ask him to unretire that he will have no choice but to comply. {Comment #494}
He's already said he has to be in the FIA after October as an automatic member of the FIA Senate, so I guess he won't retire even if he's speaking the truth about stepping down from his post.
I like it as well, its rolls off the tounge
Oh. *ahem* if it goes up, come back and read that comment. If it doesn't, let's pretend it never happened.
Turn Panda ;)
Will one of them be Piquet's Nemesis?
Maybe turn 4?
Ooh, I just had an email saying the new omnibus transitions made listening much easier (yay) but I know for a fact it was Bassano who specifically asked for this first.
So, BC - have you listened yet and is it better?
Turn 8 :P
That can be said of any corner.
Up to you :)
Turn 1 ;)
If it's what I think it is then it sounds great. I've downloaded but not listened, am WAY behind since iPhone is not hooked up in car yet. Will check now
Love the reference :-)
1) Mr C-bring
2) Debrief Debriefer
3) Don't Panic Turn
4) Mr Blobby
5) Firefox's Awesome Bar Sucks
6) Barely a Corner Corner
7) Woodwiss Woot
8) The Giggles
9) This Looks Like The Most Fun Corner
10) Not quite turn 11
11) This is turn 11
12) Franckly My Dear...
13) I AM NOT HERE
14) Turn Right into the Pits for a Magnum
Stingray
I was second to last in the quiz.
du du duhh du duhh du
How could you Lukeh?
17 minutes to go and green lights all the way
It is simply underwhelming and is lacking the level of awesome the name explains. I assumed that was also a corner that should be awesome but is merly average.
I remember when you thought it was awesome :P
At least it's not IE
I failed to get the wooden spoon in the quiz. Awful. Really disapointed.
Good times were had and awesome bars were awesome.
Hehe thats awesome lukeh!
Will add some of them... Do wee need a (sorry amy) corner?
...for heikki to go off at? ;)
How about Five Pints of Awesome?
I beat my target of 1 in the quiz by 43.5 marks. Impressive.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/track-jpg-2
mine has an oval
But he already turned down those asking him to unretire… {Comment #496}
Unless he's milking requests - or awaiting some conveniently-timed crisis that "requires" his presence as President...
Who's won?
even better! Just needed somewhere to get some advertising in I reckon. Albeit negative advertising!
Turns 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ,6 , 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14.
Yet to forgive him for not letting Timo past at his home race, inconsiderate.
I did get 43.5 in total.
journeyer and mav tied... tiebreaker now...
I got 44.5. Jean alesi came in handy then
journeyer and pitmonster, even. Looks like pitmonster won on the tiebreaker!
Great transition between episodes so far. Thanks!
Note: It's Glass Reinforced Plastic, I think [Chapter 2 - The Car]
10 minutes to go. All flight controllers have just been polled and all o them said go for launch
This one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fiber_reinforced_polymer
I sit corrected ;)
I imagine there is all kinds of reinforced nonsense out there though.
That is quite true
If I had a team I would totally pick drivers based on whether they were “thoroughly good blokes.”
My team would probably be rubbish. {Comment #567}
Depends. You'd probably have to include Vettel in the line-up if done on that basis, and anyone who thinks he's rubbish has been living under a rock and/or ignorant of Sebastian's progress for the last 18 months...
I reckon NASA TV need that guy from the Red Arrows commentating on them. He at least makes complex stuff sound exciting.
Orbiter access arm being retracted. They are going to fly
My circuit, complete with modifications made by Tilke that resulted in the circuit never being the same.
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/circuit-jpg
I think we should take over the channel. NASA TV are hopeless
Porch Launch imminent?
I always preferred the old layout.
Yep
you all watching this:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/spacevidcast
?
Hehe, for those who couldn't tell the red lines are the new circuit, the black is the old ;)
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
If there's an emergency does it become Porch 911
spacevidcast is just a ripoff isn't it
Why is it leaking smoke already?
it works on a mac though. unlike nasa.
My video is about a minute and a half behind the actual countdown which is at 2 min 30
It's meant to do that, stops it blowing up or something.
Working fine for me.
Well done, PM! But here's the better news:
We both get t-shirts from Kathi! Woohoo!
Thank youuuuu, Kathi! :D Thanks for Salti and Mav too for setting this up. Twas amazing! :)
opens in Quicktime for me
boo.
It always does that. It's not smoke. It will be oxygen or similar
Ah. I spose that's alright then.
No I was meaning the name.
Ta for the link, I'm on it too now, bigger than the official one
Only get 4 points from this quiz, i wanted the wooden spoon :(
It's a Quicktime feed I think.
1 minute to go
There are lots of options.
they really get excited about the pre-launch tea dont they?
aahhh :)
Anyways, see ya all beyond the blue Honda.
Or the glass mug, in this case. ;)
Maybe they get biscuits too
Porch is go
beyond the blue honda?
Ive won a mug! this is awesome!
He raced as a Finn when he was in GP2, but had to change to Germany for F1 for some rule about passports or which country endorses your super license or something or rather that I read and promptly forgot. {Comment #610}
That rule applies to all FIA series, not just F1. However, as a dual national, Nico was entitled to use either. According to F1 Racing (June 2006 edition), Keke Rosberg thought that Germany would be the better one to use for F1 for marketing reasons. I have no idea about the GP2 bit.
Oh noes
I'm getting intermittant Bluetooth Mouse failure
all happens a bit quick doesn't it?
Anyone who has trouble getting the NASA TV link I posted to work should go to the right of the picture and choose the Other Viewing Options tab and you can have a range of players
See you on the other side of Honda. Clever thing I made up of saying goodnight. Honda goodnight, Brawn good morning? Clever, no, didn't think so.
I'm losing it.
Power of dreams reference from the ad?
i like it!
they go up darn quick, too. :D
oh well, back to bed for me. night!
I like that we get to hear all the radio. This is such a new concept for me.
I have to say Christine did a great job in getting the shuttle launched. They have now been told that they cannot return to Florida after 4 minutes.
we need holly taking all over it.
hahaha :D love it! :D
:D
We get this on every launch. You must have seen a launch before
Here's mine: What Tilke would have done to Brands Hatch :D
night Journeyer!
I like it :D
I'm going to keep doing more, its fun :)
THey have switched the trans-Atlantic abort site to Zaragoza
I saw a bit of one, but I don't think I listened much past the whole "liftoff" thing.
Lou should call her blog beyond the Blue Honda since that is Brawn
Ha ha
Is the answer, ruined it?
It would be a lot better if they had someone better explaining it.
Well do you like it? It's got all the Tilke elements in and about 10% of the original track ;)
Things like "confirms main engine cutoff" do not sound good to me. But no one seems worried.
I remember him being hyped as a future world champion pretty early in his career because he scored one point or something {Comment #615}
Two points and fastest lap, Bahrain 2006.
Still not the sort of thing which would suggest world championship candidature on its own, but I suppose the media takes what it can and builds stories on it.
Sounds perfect then
The main engine only burn for a short while. They don't get much mileage out of premium fuel either
oh. they put the camera on the wrong bit.
am going to stick with photo finish for a bit ;) just to get me into the swing of blogging. if i find myself talking too much about brawn or f1 then i may use that.... *makes not of it.*
PF chat won't let me say goodbye to those there..
Doh
The camera is on the tank. I am sure we had this same conversation th last time
Thought that was taken?
was it before yesterday?
Everybody's dead Dave?
I am pretty certain there wasn't a launch yesterday.
Nice :-)
Kochanski is dead?
:D
Where does the tank go?
hehe
Is this like having last wednesday again?
It burns up in the atmosphere.
Into the sea where it is recovered. Before that the solid rocket boosters were jetisoned into the sea about 2 minutes into the flight
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sidepodring-jpg
All corners named apart from turn 11
Any ideas?
This one goes up to 11
Ah yes, I spotted that. Bits flying about all over the place!
There is some austrian guy in GP2 pretending to be from the UAE {Comment #628}
Yes, I giggled at bit when I saw Andeas Zuber's licence situation during my primer research. I still don't understand how he ended up with the UAE license...
i like that for all their billions, nasa have graphics that look like a spectrum simulator.
As soon as it is dead weight ecplosive bolts get fired and it is dumped.
Im trying to avoid numbers
But i thought about F11 ;)
Probably is
Call turn 11 'Spinal Trap'... as it should have a gravel trap, as well as reference the 11 joke from spinal tap. Win win.
That has been my argument about NASA TV. If you need the taxpayer to fund you budget then NASA TV is your best sales tool. Imagine what our little community could do with the money they wasted on setting up a launch attempt with only 40% chance of success. Can you imagine the programs and graphics we could put together for that budget?
I like that
24/7 365.
It is also a tight but fast-looking corner so it'll play havoc with your spine
win win win
Can you imagine how many eeepcs we could have had?
That's a lot of energy drinks in a year
:D
:D
Exactly and every hour of it better than they produce
http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/sidepodring2-jpg
:D
Do I want to know what an eepc is or am I better off in blissful ignorance?
:D
You missed turn 9?
the best circuit.... in the world.
Turn 9 doesn't seem to have a name
Its an homage to tuen 8
Very nice :-)
small laptop. usually passively cooled, and useful to us because it's near silent.
Ah I see, :lol:
Small laptop
Maybe MrsC's corner should be first. Jussayin'.
or turn even ;)
All you need to know is Gavin didn't like them then he did and MrC wants 4 so he can copy Leo, I mean so he can have separate Skype channels but Christine said no.
oops... I thought she would like to be closer to the panda though
Obvious. I should have known that.
Ah ok. In that case I want one.
Get a Linux one ;)
not much bigger than a mug though:
http://www.sidepodcast.com/2009/01/05/travelling-light/
Makes perfect sense.
And that the Acer Aspire One kicks it's A*** like Alonso vs. Piquet!
Um Bongo?
Am I the only person who thought the shuttle smoke looked phallic?
I'm sure I'll find a use for it. Come to think of it my mate (the techie guy who gave/sold me those bits) goes on about them a lot. I ignore him a lot on the techie stuff.
They blog it in the Congo...
I guess that is the last we are going to see of the shuttle tonight. They really should be able to follow it up further or give us the driver' view.
Isn't that a drink in the jungle?
It is also what people I know call Ubuntu.
Black?
What about a super-slow-mo cam like in FP2?
It can't just be black
Ah ok
Pass. There are Linux EeePC's or Winblows XP
I know which I'd prefer
Thermocam should be good
thermo super slow-mo?
neither.
usually the linux version installed by default is awful. whatever you buy you have to wipe it and install ubunutu (umbongo) anyhow.
The shuttle and the station can be tracked at http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/tracking/index.html
oops. meant to reply to that bit...
the EeeeeePC is very slow though...
Why is no one calling for Fisichella to be sacked from force india?
Surely he is more deserving of it than PK? {Comment #660}
Some of the Portuguese-language Twitterers are calling for Fisichella to be removed from Force India (albeit at the end of the season, not at this precise moment).
However, Giancarlo has been instrumental in giving the team a reference point and still tends to do better more consistently than Adrian. It's all very well getting headline-grabbing stints, but Adrian has been beaten in the championship by Giancarlo for the last two seasons and Giancarlo has missed out on several points finishes (as against Adrian missing out on three total since the start of 2008). Put simply, Force India still need Giancarlo there in 2010. I think they'd be better off with Adrian than Tonio as the other driver, but I'm not sure exactly what obligations the team may or may not have.
Hehe, look there is the sun :D
depends on your expectations?
ours runs desktop doohickey nicely. we can upload photos from the nec and alex sounds great on skype (when he's not hungover).
it's not much use for editing video, i'll grant you.
Am happy with iPhone until Apple's 10" laptop is launched
That's about all it can do. The Acer however, is like a small laptop - it seems to work a lot faster and has better battery life...
There are some really good UK siting opportunities for the shuttle and ISS over the next few days. Just click on your country and follow the instructions. Even as far north as me there are some 5 minute sitings.
http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/index.html
but it has a proper fan right? which for our needs puts us back to square one.
I might try out Moblin. It looks interesting.
can i put my name down for four?
Just saw the shuttle fly overhead. Pretty flippin cool :D
Probably. My train is noisy though ;)
Sure, why not
It does actually - a flash drive OS sounds cool...
Rumour has that there are siting opportunities for it too but I don't buy that?
there's a netbook out there for everyone. just have to pick the right one :)
maybe christine may agree if you let her have a baby panda?
hadn't heard of that one. looks awesome.
hmmmmm.
Where are you Cian?
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/25/another-source-confirms-2010-apple-tablet/
Ireland? I think
I like them both - the EeeePC is very small and light... the Acer is grunty and fast. If you just need lightweight stuff then go for the Eee.... if you wanna do most computer stuff (my mate says it even plays WoW) then go for the Acer...
For those interested, Windows 7 has just gone on sale at a discount
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/microsoft/5832849/Windows-7-on-sale-at-slashed-prices.html
Damn. I never thought about watching outside after a launch. It would have been a lot lower than normal. Must find a ground track for its launch path
awesome :-)
Yeah, Ireland. Was a big bright light with a smaller orange one just underneath it moving pretty fast.
Evening all by the way :D
It didn't even occur to me that we could see it from UK/Ireland.
Still don't get this bit though
"All UK versions of Windows 7 will come without Microsoft’s Internet Explorer browser pre-installed due to the company’s ongoing battle with the European Union.
This means that computer users will have to download and install a web browser of their choice when they upgrade their computer to Microsoft’s new operating system."
It never occurrred to me to watch for it coming over from the launch. It is much lower and still has engines burning.
It's trans_ Atlantic abort sites are in France and Spain so it must be visible all the time it launches to the station
Shannon on the west coast here was a site aswell, not sure if its still used. Apparently its only the second time in the shuttle's history it's been visible over Ireland.
Good find then
I hate to cause a stir, but I fancy there’s an awful lot of feedback to be gained from this rather intelligent and non-violent community. {Comment #668}
Firstly, GMM, thank you for the polite way you asked for feedback.
Secondly, I don't know if Christine or "me" has e-mailed feedback, but I did do a blog entry a few months back about GMM which may interest you. (It also links back to the debate with Andrew Maitland at around that time).
Hope you find it informative.
I have never heard of Shannon as a TAL site. They use Istres in France and Moron and Zaragoza in Spain. Moron was the prime choice tonight but they switched to Zaragoza in flight.
Moron? Who you calling a Moron?
G'day all.
That's what the place is called although you won't be surprised to know that NASA pronounces it in a strange way.
Hi Joe. Ground stopped shaking?
What a funny name for a town ... I googled it - where's the runway where they ditch it if need be?
My neighbors were in my driveway trying to see a contrail, storms to the north prevented that. If it gets to land at KSC, I might get a sonic boom or two
All I know is it's in Moron. I assume it is a military runway
By the way, enjoying a very cool buzz from some budweiser after 27 holes of golf....and my second birdie ever!
Often when Americans want to say 'moron' they say 'maroon' instead. I think that's a Bugs Bunny reference.
NASA calls it Ma-rone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morón_Air_Base
It's in Spain...
How do i upload to this.
The wiki thinks chrome is safari and doesn't support the tool buttons.
And IE wont load the wiki?
And it's here
Not a very long runway, mind...
Okay, I think I'm offended by that
quick maps gives you an embed code. paste it as a widget.
can't help with ie or chrome issues sadly.
the real meaning of moron is me trying to figure out when the sidepodcast show is on sunday
with Firefox?
Sorry but I hear it a lot
It's okay, the buzz has softened by ire
has the shuttle ever aborted before?
Ok i think ive dug that up now... will give it a go.
No
Don't think so. I am not aware of it ever happening.
I don;t think it has ever landed in Europe either even though the TAL sites are optional landing sites if KSC or Edwards are out because of weather
am just watching the goodwood program on the itv player. i’d forgotten just how annoying Steve Ryder was {Comment #778}
When was that on? I couldn't find it in the TV listings...
I think it is working...Does it normaly take a minute or 2?
ITV4 yesterday at 8pm and 12:45 I think, as lou says it's on the itv player :)
It was on ITV4 at 8pm last night then on ITV1 just after midnight
RG is the quikmaps expert
i'll tell ya in a minute or two :)
shouldn't do though.
I think he went to bed, ill leave it for a bit longer and see what happens....
any luck? what's the url to your quikmap, we may be able to add it.
It just seems to get stuck...
http://www.quikmaps.com/show/109707
Not the most impressive track ever... ;)
Apart from that, I’ve very well. Mum’s doing OK, although to go with her suspected swine flu, she’s just found out she’s anaemic as well. {Comment #958}
Hope your Mum gets well soon.
Bernie would probably want to send it up the palm ;)
Wouldnt you die alone while the person went to get the helpers? {Comment #961}
Depends how quickly you were dying. With most causes of death, you get at least a couple of minutes, so in most situations I end up in, the helpers should be easy to come by. The danger is if the other person lets their mind wander and remembers halfway round that their boss will be horrible to them if their report isn't handed in on time, hence the "quickly!"...
It's never happened. Landings have only ever happened in the USA.
There is a fairly narrow window for a TAL in any case.
same here :(
Hehe,not to worry, i think the races at the sidepodring would be a lot better ;)
Oh, Mr. C....and a Good day to you, Sir!
howdy joe!
I'll say it again, since no one cracked a cold one when mentioned the first time.....got my second birdie in golf today
Congrats!
Well done. I missed your earlier comment
i read your comment, but had absolutely no idea what it meant?
any excuse though, lemmie get a beer.
Oh and get this, the guy at the pro shop, with a British accent, is an F1 fan. I got a chance to talk F1 with someone in the US, what a rarity
awesome! well done! :)
Watching the NASA post launch press conference. They seem very happy wih the launch apart from some foam hitting the shuttle. They don't think there will be any problems but will cary out all the normal checks and repair if necessary.
That's better than a birdie
Was he talking sense?
Well done on the birdie... Considering how many golf courses i used to live around i should be a lot better than i am. So i know that's a big achievement!
Close run thing I'd have thought.
Roger that sir. I will be playing again tommorrow. Blackjack on Friday and then my Fire Dept golf tourney, I am cramming rounds so as not to embarass myself
*cheers*
Well, he sounded like anyone with a British accent, lamenting LW's poor race finishes....waiting to see what reaction that gets
LW? I meant LH
It was on ITV4 at 8pm last night then on ITV1 just after midnight {Comment #1312}
That would explain why, contrary to what I'd been told from elsewhere, it wasn't on ITV at lunchtime...
A lot of f1 fans i know dont like lewis... He is too Beckam for their liking.
I like him though... more this season than last, but still.
He really sounded like me, happy Max will be unemployed soon, loves the racing, happy to see Mark get a win and hoping F1 returns to North America
what on earth? on Youtube I've found a cover of Ruby by Kaiser Cheifs singing about Barrichello's comemnts. The chorus goes...
"rubens rubens ruebns rubens! Blah blah blah blah blah"
I dunno whether I should be laughing at this or not...!!
i think we need a link!
Mega tired because I couldn't sleep last night. I'll catch you tomorrow.
night pat
See ya, Pat
enjoy...
hahahahaha!
oh good lord, that has so much potential... except for the signing.
awwww :( poor Rubens!
rubens has a wonde... ohhhhhhh.
I dunno whether I should like it or not! I fee so bad for him watching that!
Reubens is a good dude, this is a bit of cheap shot
I do feel really guilty finding that :(
But he does whinge a lot lately
yeah, but its all in fun!
Some of it went too far...but a lot of it was funny!
He tweeted Lukeh and I last weekend!
You have a valid point
see you all later, storm moving and I want to watch it roll in