After a day of being nice to each other, Mr C and myself are looking to get stuck in with Formula 1 news and gossip. Has there been anything of late to keep us entertained? Let's see.

  • The Honda rumours are gathering steam, and it appears that the only thing that still remains a question is whether they will be able to do the deal with Mercedes or not. The engine supplier wants funding for a full year, and from what we know, the sponsorship only stretches to four races. Supposedly they have ten days to sort it out, will they make it in time?
  • Bob Bell, Technical Director of Renault is convinced that the car will be on the pace when it comes to racing in Australia. He has to say optimistic things like that, of course, but he adds that the poor testing times were not surprising due to running interim bodywork. They were more interested on the components on the inside than nabbing a good headline. Do we believe him?
  • Finally, another Batracer game is waiting to kick off, and just needs a few more people to sign up. If you had fun in the last one, or if you wanted to join in but missed the boat, now is your chance to have a go and see if you can beat the opposition. This game takes the 1986 car set, so if you're interested, you can sign up here. The password is Bourdais, and if you have any questions, there's information on the wiki, or you can ask us in the comments.

The last thing I wanted to mention is a reminder to vote in the final of the Character Cup. It's your last opportunity to make your vote count and crown the Sidepodcast 2009 Character Cup winner. Things are looking very close between Alonso and Vettel, and it could be your vote that swings it. Once you've been and voted, I'll see you in the comments.

295 responses

  • Dank15/02/2009 at 00:16

    So Honda supposedly having the funds for the first four races? Talk about Super Agrui Redux.

    Maybe it's a risky game to show would-be sponsors what they're made of in the first couple of races before they invest? Though, given lack of testing I'd imagine Brackley F1 are hardly going to set the motorsport world alight. Poor ol' Senna eh?

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 00:32

    I think I need to go on a course to learn to write succinctly. I started a new piece and on the first draft I have 750 words by the time of the driver's first car race and there is stuff I have to add in to that bit.

    This will not turn into another four and a half thousand word epic.

  • Alianora La Canta15/02/2009 at 00:35

    It's not about Gilles Villenueve, is it? ;)

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 00:50

    It’s not about Gilles Villnueve, is it?

    Yes and no. My previous 4500 word record was supposed to be 500 words on Villeneuve which by slashing chunks out of it I managed to get it down to 9 times the original planned length. That epic should be appearing here this week some time. The latest tome is about a driver who had many similarities to Gilles but I would doubt if more than three people who frequent this site have ever heard of. I have another previously written piece which will come after the Villeneuve item and probably the current one will be after that.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 01:48

    It’s not about Gilles Villenueve, is it?

    Just out of curiosity how did you arrive at that conclusion?

  • Bassano Clapper15/02/2009 at 01:52

    Just out of curiosity how did you arrive at that conclusion?

    Alianora the Mystic :)

  • Alianora La Canta15/02/2009 at 01:56

    Just out of curiosity how did you arrive at that conclusion? {Comment #5

    Because the last time I heard of anyone having a four-figure word count on an F1-related topic and then stating they didn't intend for that to happen was someone writing on Gilles Villenueve (and I don't think it was Steven, but I've forgotten who it was).

  • Journeyer15/02/2009 at 01:57

    Because the last time I heard of anyone having a four-figure word count on an F1-related topic and then stating they didn’t intend for that to happen was someone writing on Gilles Villenueve (and I don’t think it was Steven, but I’ve forgotten who it was).

    Maybe Clive?

  • Alianora La Canta15/02/2009 at 01:58

    Possibly...

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 02:12

    Because the last time I heard of anyone having a four-figure word count on an F1-related topic and then stating they didn’t intend for that to happen was someone writing on Gilles Villenueve (and I don’t think it was Steven, but I’ve forgotten who it was).

    It may have been this same piece as it was first posted on the anniversary of his death on a site Clive edits. I don't want to name the site as I want to control the release of these items here.

  • Alianora La Canta15/02/2009 at 02:40

    Fair enough, Steven :)

  • Christine15/02/2009 at 10:20

    Am in the supermarket and have spotted an F1 belt. If Mr C deserved a present... oh well.

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 10:51

    Is there a live show planned today?

  • Christine15/02/2009 at 11:10

    Is there a live show planned today?

    Sadly not. The mini series should tide you over whilst Mr C works hard in the background on the site...

    Although he's sleeping now, so not working that hard ;)

  • Journeyer15/02/2009 at 11:10

    Am in the supermarket and have spotted an F1 belt. If Mr C deserved a present… oh well.

    Did ya buy it? ;)

  • Journeyer15/02/2009 at 11:10

    Although he’s sleeping now, so not working that hard

    In fairness to Mr. C, he DID sleep at... 530? Yeah, he and Steven Roy stayed up VERY late.

  • toxicfusion15/02/2009 at 11:31

    I've joined the Batracer game, I'm still new to Batracer but I'm getting there =)

  • Journeyer15/02/2009 at 11:59

    I’ve joined the Batracer game, I’m still new to Batracer but I’m getting there =)

    Cool! What team did you join?

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 12:04

    I’ve joined the Batracer game, I’m still new to Batracer but I’m getting there =)

    Hey James. :)

  • toxicfusion15/02/2009 at 12:05

    Cool! What team did you join?

    Ferrari.

    In truth I didn't know anything of the 1986 season it happend before I was born.

  • Journeyer15/02/2009 at 12:07

    In truth I didn’t know anything of the 1986 season it happend before I was born.

    Nice! Same here then. ;)

    Ferrari were an OK team that year, but they really didn't contend for the title. I think they won once that year.

  • toxicfusion15/02/2009 at 12:20

    Hey James. :)

    Hey!

    Nice! Same here then. ;)

    Ferrari were an OK team that year, but they really didn’t contend for the title. I think they won once that year.

    Time to change history then :)

  • RG15/02/2009 at 13:01

    In truth I didn’t know anything of the 1986 season it happend before I was born.

    Same here, I thought half the teams didn't even exist at that point...

  • Al15/02/2009 at 13:28

    Cool! What team did you join?

    Ferrari.

    Welcome to the team.

    In truth I didn’t know anything of the 1986 season it happend before I was born.

    Me too.

  • me15/02/2009 at 13:29

    In fairness to Mr. C, he DID sleep at… 530? Yeah, he and Steven Roy stayed up VERY late.

    awake again.

    today's task is to improve the default wordpress smilies. might be requesting feedback on various possibilities later in the day.

    sorry there's no show today. you may blame me.

  • Selidor15/02/2009 at 13:33

    Welcome onboard James!

    In truth I didn’t know anything of the 1986 season it happend before I was born.

    Ditto ;)

    Am in the supermarket and have spotted an F1 belt. If Mr C deserved a present… oh well.

    I saw official F1 aftershave in my local Tescos, called "Accelerate". I never knew accerleration had a particular scent :P

    Bob Bell, Technical Director of Renault is convinced that the car will be on the pace when it comes to racing in Australia. He has to say optimistic things like that, of course, but he adds that the poor testing times were not surprising due to running interim bodywork. They were more interested on the components on the inside than nabbing a good headline. Do we believe him?

    Even if they were fastest, they would still play it down and merely be "optimistic" about the progress made.

    Supposedly they have ten days to sort it out, will they make it in time?

    Im sure the parties involved will make it work, I think its in everyones best interest anyway. I mean, surely theres less risk of Brackley F1 being ending up in debt to Mercedes if they have a short term contract for a smaller amount?

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 13:35

    sorry there’s no show today. you may blame me.

    I'd love to, but we got a miniseries!

    Btw, what's wrong with the smilies? I know you've said before, but I can't remember...

  • Lukeh15/02/2009 at 13:38

    I saw official F1 aftershave in my local Tescos, called “Accelerate”. I never knew accerleration had a particular scent

    I wonder if any team bosses are Anchorman fans.

    "Scientists have tested this france, y'know. They say that 60% of the time, it works all of the time."

  • Lukeh15/02/2009 at 13:38

    *fragrance

    France? :|

  • RG15/02/2009 at 13:40

    France?

    A friend once wrote in his history book 'The main person responsible for the defeat was Custer, who decided that Science was next and I'll be doing an experiment'

    Great guy

  • me15/02/2009 at 13:41

    Btw, what’s wrong with the smilies? I know you’ve said before, but I can’t remember…

    they're a bit yellow, and some of them are animated.

  • RG15/02/2009 at 13:42

    they’re a bit yellow, and some of them are animated.

    Whats wrong with animated :evil:

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 13:43

    they’re a bit yellow, and some of them are animated.

    Yellow? :mrgreen:

  • me15/02/2009 at 13:51

    it's gonna be one of them days :)

  • toxicfusion15/02/2009 at 14:03

    Welcome to the team.

    Thanks, heres to changing the course of history :D

  • Selidor15/02/2009 at 14:16

    I wonder if any team bosses are Anchorman fans.

    “Scientists have tested this france, y’know. They say that 60% of the time, it works all of the time.”

    Meteo France - 60% of the time, it works all the time.

  • 2008 Sidepodcastland Champions Jordan F115/02/2009 at 14:22

    #26 - Selidor said:

    I saw official F1 aftershave in my local Tescos, called “Accelerate”. I never knew accerleration had a particular scent

    Of course acceleration has a scent. It is the smell of that is a combination of unburnt gasoline and burnt tire rubber. Not really sure how that is supposed to attract the attention of the gals but if my gal smelt of unburnt gasoline I would stay away from her just from the fire risk alone...

    And I do not smoke.

  • lou15/02/2009 at 14:30

    they’re a bit yellow, and some of them are animated.

    so you would rather them be blue and not animated? :P

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 16:04

    so you would rather them be blue and not animated?

    Probably not as that would add another job to his list.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 16:21

    The human mind is endlessly facinating. It is capable of constructing the most complex theories but at times miss he blindingly obvious.

    This thought occurred to me earlier while channel flicking when I cam across an old version of Cinderella on 5. We all know the story and that she has to bail by midnight or the dress changes back to rags, the coach to a pumpkin, the horses to white mice etc but in the end the prince finds the glass slipper and they all live happily ever after. We have all accepted that since we were children and none of us have spotted the fundamental flaw.

    Why didn't the glass slipper change back into whatever it was to start with?

  • Ollie15/02/2009 at 16:21

    today’s task is to improve the default wordpress smilies. might be requesting feedback on various possibilities later in the day.

    I've told you before, panda smilies. :)

  • Ollie15/02/2009 at 16:23

    The human mind is endlessly facinating. It is capable of constructing the most complex theories but at times miss he blindingly obvious.

    Next you'll be telling me Santa doesn't exist.

  • Journeyer15/02/2009 at 16:24

    Why didn’t the glass slipper change back into whatever it was to start with?

    I thought of that when I was in high school. There was no sufficient answer for it, but then our teacher taught us the phrase 'suspension of disbelief'.

    As it was advancing the story, it was better to leave it be. ;)

  • Journeyer15/02/2009 at 16:24

    Next you’ll be telling me Santa doesn’t exist.

    Erm... Well... ;)

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 16:26

    Next you’ll be telling me Santa doesn’t exist.

    You are safe on that one I have seen him in shops and he brings me presents every year.

    I am however less and less convinced that Max exists. I think Bernie does the whole thing with holograms.

  • Ollie15/02/2009 at 16:28

    I am however less and less convinced that Max exists. I think Bernie does the whole thing with holograms.

    Even the unmentionable things? That's one impressive hologram set-up that Bernie has!

  • me15/02/2009 at 16:34

    I’ve told you before, panda smilies.

    ahhh, i'd forgotten!

  • me15/02/2009 at 16:35

    You are safe on that one I have seen him in shops and he brings me presents every year.

    plus norad wouldn't lie to us.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 16:53

    In truth I didn’t know anything of the 1986 season it happend before I was born.

    I was just the same until I decided to read up about it in a couple of books and on websites. If I'm honest my knowledge of F1 only properly kicks in at around this period of racing.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 18:39

    I'm putting the finishing touches to what I'll rate as my best signature pic ever. It's for someone at RLB who's going to be driving for Toro Rosso, and I've used a pic of an STR in the wet and filled in the spray behind it with the Toro Rosso bull graphic. So it looks like it's coming out the back and chasing it. Personally I think it looks awesome. :D

  • RG15/02/2009 at 18:46

    I think we'll just have to see that then Scotty ;)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 18:51

    I think we’ll just have to see that then Scotty

    You will do when it's finished ;)

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 19:10

    If anyone is looking for a stream for Daytona try http://www.justin.tv/urtvcast The build up show is on now and is by far the most stable stream I have found.

  • me15/02/2009 at 19:10

    If anyone is looking for a stream for Daytona try http://www.justin.tv/urtvcast The build up show is on now and is by far the most stable stream I have found.

    nice one :)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 19:11

    http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6821/ferreirastrsigpc1.jpg The STR sig I just made :D

  • RG15/02/2009 at 19:11

    If anyone is looking for a stream for Daytona try http://www.justin.tv/urtvcast The build up show is on now and is by far the most stable stream I have found.

    Cheers, what time does it start cos I want to watch AC Milan v Inter first

  • RG15/02/2009 at 19:12

    http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6821/ferreirastrsigpc1.jpg The STR sig I just made

    Now I love the effect you've done in the spray, the only negative is probably the font you've wrote the name in. But its great, well done.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 19:13

    Cheers, what time does it start cos I want to watch AC Milan v Inter first

    I have no idea. The countdown on the NASCAR site zeroed 12 minutes ago when the build up show started.

  • Lukeh15/02/2009 at 19:19
  • Lukeh15/02/2009 at 19:21

    Cheers, what time does it start cos I want to watch AC Milan v Inter first

    Why is this on BBC3 anyways? Seems a bit random when BBC gets no italian football ever.

    Not that I'm complaining, cant wait for kick off. Even as a Man Utd fan, I miss Jose Mourinho.

  • RG15/02/2009 at 19:22

    Why is this on BBC3 anyways? Seems a bit random when BBC gets no italian football ever.

    I'm guessing BBC have managed to get the rights to Italian football recently, and have no time to put it on 1 or 2.

  • Lukeh15/02/2009 at 19:23

    I’m guessing BBC have managed to get the rights to Italian football recently, and have no time to put it on 1 or 2.

    If they have then that's awesome :D I just haven't heard anything about it.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 19:26

    FOX is showing a cartoon about a gopher called Digger that loves NASCAR. Ooooook then...

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 19:36

    I’m guessing BBC have managed to get the rights to Italian football recently, and have no time to put it on 1 or 2.

    As far as I know this is a one-off but they're thinking about buying the Italian rights.

    Mr. Jake Humphrey hosting. :)

  • Lukeh15/02/2009 at 19:37

    Mr. Jake Humphrey hosting.

    I was thinking this, F1-wise. I still don't think he does that bad of a job with sports presenting at all.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 19:38

    Watching a bit of the pre-race show from Daytona and there's spots of rain on the camera.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 19:51

    Scott Speed is taking part in the 500 driving the #82 Red Bull Toyota :P

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:23

    National anthem at Daytona so I guess the kick off is 20:30

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:23

    National anthem at Daytona so I guess the kick off is 20:30

    Poor one at that.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:28

    The drivers just got their order to "Start Your Engines!"

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:31

    The drivers just got their order to “Start Your Engines!”

    You're not seriously going to watch the whole thing are you? Wait for the one hour highlights package!

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:34

    You’re not seriously going to watch the whole thing are you? Wait for the one hour highlights package!

    Why not! I for one have a vast palette of motorsport tastes. Nothing wrong with indulging in a bit of NASCAR. In some ways I enjoy the close racing.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:35

    Wow, Montoya starts on row 4!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:35

    Why not! I for one have a vast palette of motorsport tastes. Nothing wrong with indulging in a bit of NASCAR. In some ways I enjoy the close racing.

    Yeah but these kind of races just drag on until the last ten laps. Trust me buddy, you're wasting your time here!

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:35

    Oh awesome, the pace car's one of the new Camaro's :D

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:35

    You’re not seriously going to watch the whole thing are you? Wait for the one hour highlights package!

    I've got nowt better to do, well I have, so I'll have it as just commentry or something.

  • me15/02/2009 at 20:35

    Yeah but these kind of races just drag on until the last ten laps. Trust me buddy, you’re wasting your time here!

    in fairness, the opening laps are impressive.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:36

    in fairness, the opening laps are impressive.

    Yep, then the next 150 are rubbish, then everyone wakes up for the last 10 or so.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:37

    Gavin Brown (RubberGoat): 15/02/2009 at 20:36

    in fairness, the opening laps are impressive.

    Yep, then the next 150 are rubbish, then everyone wakes up for the last 10 or so.

    Only because of the inevitable caution periods that drag it out.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:37

    Only because of the inevitable caution periods that drag it out.

    In restrictor plate racing, all the race leads up to a big crash at the end. It's a bit of a lottery!

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:38

    Scott Speed crashed in the warmup, I think, so he will have to start at the back with 6 other cars that did so. He would have been 38th on the grid.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:38

    In restrictor plate racing, all the race leads up to a big crash at the end. It’s a bit of a lottery!

    Isn't it always in NASCAR?

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:38

    Only because of the inevitable caution periods that drag it out.

    On average only 7 and on average first caution on lap 32.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:38

    Scott Speed crashed in the warmup, I think, so he will have to start at the back with 6 other cars that did so. He would have been 38th on the grid.

    He switched to a Backup Car.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:39

    Isn’t it always in NASCAR?

    Expect to see a few major players get wiped out randomly.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:42

    Boogity boogity boogity, let's go racin', boys! :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:42

    Boogity boogity boogity, let’s go racin’, boys!

    Can you imagine James Allen saying that?

  • lou15/02/2009 at 20:43

    Boogity boogity boogity, let’s go racin’, boys!

    whatcha all watching?

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:44

    http://www.justin.tv/urtvcast

    Daytone 500

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:44

    whatcha all watching?

    Daytona 500. Quick! Get out of here before it's too late!

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:44

    whatcha all watching?

    daytona 500, for no apparant reason

    http://www.justin.tv/urtvcast

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:44

    Daytona.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:45

    & Richard Hammond's new prog on BBC2

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:45

    They're throwing a caution on lap 25 because of the rain warnings.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:46

    Montoya running 3rd.

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:46

    They’re throwing a caution on lap 25 because of the rain warnings.

    Must be pretty confident of their weather system then

  • Christine15/02/2009 at 20:46

    They’re throwing a caution on lap 25 because of the rain warnings.

    They've done 25 laps already?

  • lou15/02/2009 at 20:46

    daytona 500, for no apparant reason

    oooh... that's nascar isn't it?.... they just go round in circles...

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:46

    They’ve done 25 laps already?

    Only 6 laps of pure boredom

  • lou15/02/2009 at 20:46

    & Richard Hammond’s new prog on BBC2

    haha i'm watching that :)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:47

    They’ve done 25 laps already?

    No, that's what they're going to do.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:47

    They’ve done 25 laps already?

    Only 6 laps so far

  • Christine15/02/2009 at 20:47

    No, that’s what they’re going to do.

    Oh.

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:47

    I'm giving this 9 laps and if it doesn't improve, I'm watching some classic F1 races

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 20:47

    I've just about lost interest now...

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:48

    So let me get this right, the spectators pay money for this?

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:48

    Spinner already, #8 or Almirola

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:48

    RG: 15/02/2009 at 20:47

    I’m giving this 9 laps and if it doesn’t improve, I’m watching some classic F1 races

    It's one of the problems with restrictor plate racing. They cruise round as fast as they can but it's very difficult for anyone to make a move.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:49

    of*

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:49

    Caution for that?

  • lou15/02/2009 at 20:49

    So let me get this right, the spectators pay money for this?

    i don't get it. i've just tuned in.... i was right. they just go round in circles....:/

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:49

    Caution for that?

    Indeed.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:49

    Caution for that?

    Welcome to NASCAR

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:50

    i don’t get it. i’ve just tuned in…. i was right. they just go round in circles….:/

    They've given a caution for someone spinning, what a useless sport.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:50

    The rush on pitlane on cautions is quite enjoyable sometimes.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:50

    Montoya leading a train of cars hitting pit road.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:51

    NASCAR tactics is to stay on the leading lap until the last 10-15 laps then race.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:52

    This is why it's entertainment and not racing. A 'competition caution' because the track isn't rubbered in, and a caution because a car spun out of the way of everybody else!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:52

    NASCAR tactics is to stay on the leading lap until the last 10-15 laps then race.

    The races are too long!

  • lou15/02/2009 at 20:53

    They’ve given a caution for someone spinning, what a useless sport.

    i don't get it... plus am i right in seeing they have only done 10 of 200 laps?

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 20:53

    Can you imagine James Allen saying that?

    It must happen. :P

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:53

    And they are cautioning it for a bit of rain? This is motorsport not bloomin cricket.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:53

    i don’t get it… plus am i right in seeing they have only done 10 of 200 laps?

    They have cautions for 'debris' on the track too!

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:54

    i don’t get it… plus am i right in seeing they have only done 10 of 200 laps?

    Aye, the only good thing is I do like the graphics.

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 20:54

    i don’t get it. i’ve just tuned in…. i was right. they just go round in circles….:/

    Yup. Not exactly thrilling is it...

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:54

    And they are cautioning it for a bit of rain? This is motorsport not bloomin cricket.

    If it rains they will stop. The caution will be so they are going slow when the rain starts

  • lou15/02/2009 at 20:54

    They have cautions for ‘debris’ on the track too!

    but.... but... hang on... so a caution means what?

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:54

    If it rains they will stop. The caution will be so they are going slow when the rain starts

    Wha? Have they not heard of wet weather tyres?

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:55

    but…. but… hang on… so a caution means what?

    Yellow flag, pace car and everyone makes a pit stop

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:55

    If it rains they will stop. The caution will be so they are going slow when the rain starts

    No, the caution is because they are unsure that the tyres will last 25 laps. Basically Goodyear can't make tyres that work properly!

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:55

    Wha? Have they not heard of wet weather tyres?

    In America on an oval no-one races in the rain

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 20:56

    Hehe, that Bud commercial with the satnav was great :D

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:56

    No, the caution is because they are unsure that the tyres will last 25 laps. Basically Goodyear can’t make tyres that work properly!

    You have to be joking. How long have they been racing at Daytona? Since the 30s??

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:56

    No, the caution is because they are unsure that the tyres will last 25 laps. Basically Goodyear can’t make tyres that work properly!

    That seems to be because a duck is pumping the tyres.

  • lou15/02/2009 at 20:56

    Yellow flag, pace car and everyone makes a pit stop

    right. okay.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:56

    You have to be joking. How long have they been racing at Daytona? Since the 30s??

    Maybe only since the 50s

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 20:57

    And they are cautioning it for a bit of rain? This is motorsport not bloomin cricket.

    If I'm being fair, although I'm not sure why I am, cricket players don't usually travel at 200mph.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:58

    Wha? Have they not heard of wet weather tyres?

    They had a division 2 race in Montreal last year. It was pouring down with rain. They decided to use some rain tyres they had in stock. The problem was that the tyres were 8 years old and it turns out the tyres were so old that the ones they use for tyre barriers have to be changed every 5 years!

    Also, the cars had no wipers. The drivers were using squeegees to wipe the windows !!!

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:58

    If I’m being fair, although I’m not sure why I am, cricket players don’t usually travel at 200mph.

    Yeah, but F1 travel at similar speeds and they don't stop for a drop of rain at a place like Monaco.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:59

    Yeah, but F1 travel at similar speeds and they don’t stop for a drop of rain at a place like Monaco.

    But an oval is different

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 20:59

    Yeah, but F1 travel at similar speeds and they don’t stop for a drop of rain at a place like Monaco.

    But they slow down sometimes.

  • RG15/02/2009 at 20:59

    Also, the cars had no wipers. The drivers were using squeegees to wipe the windows !!!

    That may be a fair point. Obvious solution for that though.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 20:59

    You have to be joking. How long have they been racing at Daytona? Since the 30s??

    I wish I was. I refer to the Brickyard 400 last year @ Indy. The tyres were only good for 8 laps and were randomly exploding. What a farce.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 20:59

    Also, the cars had no wipers. The drivers were using squeegees to wipe the windows !!!

    That would seem to be a minor flaw in the rain

  • Harry Seaward15/02/2009 at 20:59

    This is why it’s entertainment and not racing. A ‘competition caution’ because the track isn’t rubbered in, and a caution because a car spun out of the way of everybody else!

    I think the 'Competition Caution' is really because Goodyear can't make a tire that will last more than 20 on the heavy cars.

  • RG15/02/2009 at 21:00

    Haven't they just went to an ad break? This is worse than ITV.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:00

    You have to be joking. How long have they been racing at Daytona? Since the 30s??

    Hmm, can't think of where we've seen that happen before...

    *cough*F1 Indy 2005*cough

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 21:00

    I wish I was. I refer to the Brickyard 400 last year @ Indy. The tyres were only good for 8 laps and were randomly exploding. What a farce.

    That is crazy it's not like that cars are advancing so quickly the tyres can't keep up like when F1 had turbos

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:01

    That seems to be because a duck is pumping the tyres.

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 21:01

    That would seem to be a minor flaw in the rain

    That may be a fair point. Obvious solution for that though.

    I forgot that some cars did have 'wipers' but they didn't work at all (the buffeting from the wind made them useless)!

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 21:02

    They are letting Hammond fly an A380

  • RG15/02/2009 at 21:05

    Oooh, a goal in the Milan derby

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 21:05

    Oooh, a goal in the Milan derby

    For which team

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 21:06

    I like NASCAR, but since the COT got introduced the sport seems to be going downhill faster and faster.

  • RG15/02/2009 at 21:06

    For which team

    Pato for AC Milan

  • lou15/02/2009 at 21:06

    They are letting Hammond fly an A380

    i don't like the look of those evacuation slides, they look a bit steep.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:07

    Here comes one hell of a traffic jam

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:08

    Busch leads em out with Dale Jr 2nd.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 21:08

    i don’t like the look of those evacuation slides, they look a bit steep.

    I thought he was going to try one to show us how steep they really are.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 21:10

    I suppose in some ways it is better if they are steep because at the bottom people are more vertical and can get on their feet and out of the way quicker.

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 21:10

    I thought he was going to try one to show us how steep they really are.

    Yup.

  • lou15/02/2009 at 21:10

    I thought he was going to try one to show us how steep they really are.

    lol i wonder how many times he did that. it kinda looked fun seeing him do it.. not my cup of tea though. lol

  • lou15/02/2009 at 21:11

    I suppose in some ways it is better if they are steep because at the bottom people are more vertical and can get on their feet and out of the way quicker.

    yeah, that does make sense.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 21:11

    Busch leads em out with Dale Jr 2nd.

    American adverts are weird. But then I have been used to Danish ones for too long...

  • RG15/02/2009 at 21:12

    American adverts are weird. But then I have been used to Danish ones for too long…

    There is waaaaaaaaay to many of them.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:12

    Stewart's crew chief "Ole, ole ole ole!"

    Stewart: "Meh, guess we got nothin' else to do. Hehehe!"

    :D

  • lou15/02/2009 at 21:13

    There is waaaaaaaaay to many of them.

    would you actually want to watch more of the race though :P

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:14

    I Loooooove those wooshing sounds when they all rush by. Sounds like a machine gun :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 21:14

    would you actually want to watch more of the race though

    No, be sensible and wait for the highlights!

  • RG15/02/2009 at 21:14

    would you actually want to watch more of the race though

    You give a good point ;)

    Which leads me onto I've know given in on watching this load of rubbish

  • RG15/02/2009 at 21:15

    Oops, shoulda said I've now given in

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 21:16

    Oops, shoulda said I’ve now given in

    Me too. Highlights are on tuesday and maybe sooner on RU

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 21:16

    You can see why NASCAR fans get so obsessed with their favourite drivers and have so much animosity to their rivals. The racing is so boring you have to spend your time arguing that Dale is better than Jimmie.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:17

    Them Aflac ads are funny :D

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:23

    Another thing I like in NASCAR is when they're all nose to tail going down the backstraight, bobbing along as they run over the bumps :D

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 21:35

    Caution is out, #28 of Travis Kvapl hits the wall, keeps going but right front is messed up bad.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 21:37

    Looks like NASCAR's weather forecasting is as good as F1's.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 22:13

    Ollie has just put up a great post. Well worth a read.

    http://blogf1.co.uk/2009/02/15/youll-race-still-quicker-on-the-highways-of-heaven/comment-page-1/#comment-70129

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 22:21

    My Daytona stream just switched to football. Watching http://www.justin.tv/nomadxx224 now

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 22:23

    My Daytona stream just switched to football. Watching (another stream) now

    Oh goody.

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 22:26

    They have a NASCAR Day in America?!

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 22:30

    Oh goody.

    To be honest I have it on in a corner of my screen while I am doing other things. I have listened to the commentary rather than watching the race.

    I think it would be better if James Allen was commentating and constantly telling us the next corner is a left hander.

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 22:34

    I think it would be better if James Allen was commentating and constantly telling us the next corner is a left hander.

    :D

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 22:37

    I think it would be better if James Allen was commentating and constantly telling us the next corner is a left hander.

    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/nascar_coach_reveals_winning

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 22:45

    WOOOO BIG ONE! :D

  • me15/02/2009 at 22:47

    I think it would be better if James Allen was commentating and constantly telling us the next corner is a left hander.

    :D

    :D

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 22:47

    So James Allen would be saying "he is turning left, now going straight, now turning lef and now...)

  • lou15/02/2009 at 22:53

    I think it would be better if James Allen was commentating and constantly telling us the next corner is a left hander.

    :D hehehe

  • me15/02/2009 at 22:54

    - "the official tools of nascar"?

    - "the official search engine of nascar"?

    it is annoying, but man, look at the opportunities f1 is missing out on.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 22:55

    it is annoying, but man, look at the opportunities f1 is missing out on.

    Well they copied the best bits of the coverage...

  • lou15/02/2009 at 22:55

    it is annoying, but man, look at the opportunities f1 is missing out on.

    f1 isn't as big in England as Nascar is in the states though. applying that here may not be as profitable.

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 22:56
  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 22:58

    “Is this straight enough?”

    It's an oldie, but a goodie ;-)

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 22:58

    I have just noticed that on the justin.tv feed the legend DRIVE FAST TURN LEFT is at the top of the browser. The guy mustbe some kind of expert.

  • Alianora La Canta15/02/2009 at 23:07

    Why didn’t the glass slipper change back into whatever it was to start with? {Comment #40}

    Maybe it was outside the range of the enchantment when the fateful hour struck for the enchanted items to change back, so it missed the cue and was? Granted, that leaves the question of why the fairy godmother didn't tell Cinderella to go back in her own time (she couldn't have stayed all night because the stepmother and stepsisters would have expected to see Cinderella in her usual attire upon their own return).

    Alternatively, the prince could have seen the slipper on the hour and regarded it as a nameless woman rather than Cinderella's, making it no longer "hers"? It's fairly illogical, but so is magic that turns a pumpkin into a carriage when you think about it.

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:08

    It’s fairly illogical, but so is magic that turns a pumpkin into a carriage when you think about it.

    :D

  • Ollie15/02/2009 at 23:10

    Ollie has just put up a great post. Well worth a read.

    Thank you for the link, and comments.

    And to whoever said "Daddy or chips?" That's my line. I demand royalties! :) Cheques are written out to Mr Oliver White. :D (I have no idea who the comment was in relation to, but felt like adding that line after saying that phrase a few times on Twitter and confusing American's with it.) Ah, those were the days...

  • Alianora La Canta15/02/2009 at 23:10

    You are safe on that one I have seen him in shops and he brings me presents every year. {Comment #45}

    One day I will tell you the complex theories I had to invent in order to prevent myself from denying Santa's existence at age four...

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:10

    It’s fairly illogical, but so is magic that turns a pumpkin into a carriage when you think about it.

    Yes but that is normal in the world of the story. It would be like the laws of physics applying to the whole universe apart from one shoe which floats up to the ceiling when you take it off.

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:16

    they've sold advertising on a specific camera? wt?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:17

    they’ve sold advertising on a specific camera? wt?

    Oh my friend, EVERYTHING is sponsored!

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:17

    Oh my friend, EVERYTHING is sponsored!

    but, but... a camera angle?

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:18

    they’ve sold advertising on a specific camera? wt?

    In the US of A everything is sponsored. Scoreboards are sponsored. Some sports have 1 minute summaries that have sponsors. If it can be packaged separately it can be sold.

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:18

    but, but… a camera angle?

    they have sponsored a camera angle? how does that work?

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:18

    Glass Slippers were just mentioned in the commentary!

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:19

    Glass Slippers were just mentioned in the commentary!

    i'm going to have to tune in again aren't i? lol

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:19

    they have sponsored a camera angle? how does that work?

    everytime they show the wall camera, a caption flashes up saying something like "super-fast camera sponsored by someone". the commentators call it by the same name.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:19

    they have sponsored a camera angle? how does that work?

    Every time they go to it someone will mention that this is what you can see from the McWilliams Dangleplungers camera and there will be a little McWilliams Dangleplungers sticker on the bottom of the shot.

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:20

    the blimp is also sponsored by someone else!

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:20

    Glass Slippers were just mentioned in the commentary!

    How can a driver put his foot hard down if he is wearing a glass slipper?

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:21

    How can a driver put his foot hard down if he is wearing a glass slipper?

    maybe they're on his hands?

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:22

    I love American adverts for medecines

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:22

    maybe they’re on his hands?

    :D

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:23

    everytime they show the wall camera, a caption flashes up saying something like “super-fast camera sponsored by someone”. the commentators call it by the same name.

    :o i am very pleased we don't have that in f1. that would annoy me so much.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:23

    I love American adverts for medecines

    It's sick how they're allowed to do that.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:23

    Someone is going to luck in to a win here.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:24

    i am very pleased we don’t have that in f1. that would annoy me so much.

    Ofcom wouldn't allow it. There is a law that says there must be a clear separation of programs and ads which is why we can't get scrolling ads etc.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:24

    Someone is going to luck in to a win here.

    Ahh, the Restrictor Plate Lottery. It's usually because of a last lap incident.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:26

    Ahh, the Restrictor Plate Lottery. It’s usually because of a last lap incident.

    I am thinking that someone will get one more lap out of a tank of petrol just as the rain starts or someone will pit just at the wrong time because of a vibration when had he put up with it for one more lap...

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:26

    the branding suffocating.

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:27

    Ofcom wouldn’t allow it. There is a law that says there must be a clear separation of programs and ads which is why we can’t get scrolling ads etc.

    :) ah didn't know that. i like that law ;)

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:27

    the branding suffocating.

    I am sure that people who watch this all the time don't even notice the branding. A bit like google ads.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:28

    the branding suffocating.

    They need it. Word is that the Manufacturers may have to pull out of the sport because of political pressure...

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:29

    ah didn’t know that. i like that law

    That is why we have had ad breaks in F1 for the last decade. They tried to get an exception but couldn't.

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:30

    just watching an interesting conversation thread on justin. the guy streaming the nascar is likely to get banned from the network, if he keeps streaming NBA games.

    wonder bernie has the power to do the same for f1 streams?

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:31

    Lipitor Post race show? That is blood pressure medication I think.

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:31

    That is why we have had ad breaks in F1 for the last decade. They tried to get an exception but couldn’t.

    it the option is between sponsored camera angles with captions etc and ad breaks i'll take ad breaks any day.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:31

    Lipitor Post race show? That is blood pressure medication I think.

    Haha I like the humour in that one!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:32

    it the option is between sponsored camera angles with captions etc and ad breaks i’ll take ad breaks any day.

    So you guys complain about ad breaks but prefer them to scrollings ads? Huh?

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:32

    someone sponsors the "big crash of the race"?

    i am stunned.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:32

    it the option is between sponsored camera angles with captions etc and ad breaks i’ll take ad breaks any day.

    It wouldn't have gon that far but what they wanted was a split screen or picture in picture set up so that you could still see the race in a corner of the screen while the ads ran or to run the ads on a scroll bar.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:33

    So you guys complain about ad breaks but prefer them to scrollings ads? Huh?

    Not me.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:33

    someone sponsors the “big crash of the race”?

    i am stunned.

    I am stunned it's not sponsored by Medivac's or health insurance!

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:33

    someone sponsors the “big crash of the race”?

    NASCAR is not known for its sophisticated fanbase.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:33

    It wouldn’t have gon that far but what they wanted was a split screen or picture in picture set up so that you could still see the race in a corner of the screen while the ads ran or to run the ads on a scroll bar.

    That would rock!

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:34

    I am stunned it’s not sponsored by Medivac’s or health insurance!

    :D

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:34

    That would rock!

    Some countries have it. Can't remember who though.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:35

    Some countries have it. Can’t remember who though.

    Not NZ or Denmark.

    Actually, in Denmark it's in Widescreen with NO ads!

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:35

    that's not a truck, it's a tank :)

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:36

    Actually, in Denmark it’s in Widescreen with NO ads!

    hd?

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:37

    So you guys complain about ad breaks but prefer them to scrollings ads? Huh?

    i certainly do. :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:37

    hd?

    Probably not. It's just race footage - no presenters or anything (just commentators).

    I may be wrong, but I think Premiere in Germany show it in HD.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:37

    that’s not a truck, it’s a tank

    Wow... 21mpg. That's why the big three are in trouble!

  • Harry Seaward15/02/2009 at 23:37

    In the US of A everything is sponsored. Scoreboards are sponsored. Some sports have 1 minute summaries that have sponsors. If it can be packaged separately it can be sold.

    And at the end of the 'race' they will go to Gatorade Victory Lane. There aren't several victory lanes and they need to differentiate them. Nope, Gatorade is just subliminally drooped in there.

    The best is when they have the [Sponsor Name] 500 Presented by [Secondary Sponsor Name] at [Another Sponsor Name] Speedway.

    Waking up at 3:00AM for F1 is worth it!

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:37

    i certainly do.

    May I ask why?

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:38

    It wouldn’t have gon that far but what they wanted was a split screen or picture in picture set up so that you could still see the race in a corner of the screen while the ads ran or to run the ads on a scroll bar.

    hmmm... i prefer it the BBC way. no ads at all :)

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:38

    Waking up at 3:00AM for F1 is worth it!

    amen harry :)

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:39

    hmmm… i prefer it the BBC way. no ads at all

    True but that really was not an option for ITV.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:40

    The best is when they have the [Sponsor Name] 500 Presented by [Secondary Sponsor Name] at [Another Sponsor Name] Speedway.

    What about when they interview the winner and all he does is make a sentence out of his sponsors?

  • Andy Taylor15/02/2009 at 23:40

    hmmm… i prefer it the BBC way. no ads at all

    Apart from the fake news stories which are actually adverts for other programmes,

    Evening all, BTW

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:43

    Evening all, BTW

    hullo :)

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:44

    Evening all, BTW

    Hi Andy

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 23:44

    it the option is between sponsored camera angles with captions etc and ad breaks i’ll take ad breaks any day.

    Agreed.

  • Andy Taylor15/02/2009 at 23:47

    If you're wondering where I've been, I've just got my computer back after it had to visit the Genius Bar. It has a shiny new bottom case and a new optical drive. All is well with the world again.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:47

    I just love that drivers are sponsored by the National Guard and the Army.

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:48

    that's it? that's the race?

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:48

    Race declared over.

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:49

    i want my evening back :(

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:49

    May I ask why?

    it's just a little silly. i mean, if i want to watch F1, i want to watch F1 not with the added distraction of adverts on the same screen, or flashing captions. I just think, by all means put the sponsorship on the cars and track etc, but keep whats actually on the screen for the sport (eg race positions etc). i can cope with ad breaks cause at least you can listen to the radio or watch an online feed, or watch live timings. That contains the information that i am after, i don't wish to know anything else. Sorry if that isn't explained well or doesnt make any sense, i am currently fighting the urge to chuck my laptop out of the window ;)

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:49

    True but that really was not an option for ITV.</blockquote

    yeah true. thank god we don't have to worry about that any more :D

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:50

    Evening all, BTW

    heya :)

  • Scott Woodwiss15/02/2009 at 23:50

    Matt Kenseth wins the Daytona 500 despite starting 43 and last. Only in NASCAR...

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 23:50

    Agreed.

    I don't want to have an unrelated distraction running along the bottom of a screen while I'm trying to concentrate on watching a race. I'd much rather be able to ignore that information, instead of having forced at me.

    Same applies for all programmes.

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:51

    I don’t want to have an unrelated distraction running along the bottom of a screen while I’m trying to concentrate on watching a race. I’d much rather be able to ignore that information, instead of having forced at me.

    yeah, Dom said what i meant a lot better than i did :)

    Same applies for all programmes.

    agreed.

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:51

    i want my evening back

    You want to sit through that again?

  • me15/02/2009 at 23:51

    You want to sit through that again?

    :D

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:52

    Race declared over.

    i'm really pleased i didn't watch most of it now :)

  • Steven Roy15/02/2009 at 23:52

    If Franck switches to NASCAR I am not going to watch all his races.

  • Dom15/02/2009 at 23:53

    yeah, Dom said what i meant a lot better than i did

    Oops, I didn't see yours.

  • Andy Taylor15/02/2009 at 23:53

    i’m really pleased i didn’t watch most of it now

    I didn't see any of it, I was simply bored by proxy :)

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)15/02/2009 at 23:53

    it’s just a little silly. i mean, if i want to watch F1, i want to watch F1 not with the added distraction of adverts on the same screen, or flashing captions. I just think, by all means put the sponsorship on the cars and track etc, but keep whats actually on the screen for the sport (eg race positions etc). i can cope with ad breaks cause at least you can listen to the radio or watch an online feed, or watch live timings. That contains the information that i am after, i don’t wish to know anything else. Sorry if that isn’t explained well or doesnt make any sense, i am currently fighting the urge to chuck my laptop out of the window

    Actually, that makes sense. What's wrong with the laptop?

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:53

    Oops, I didn’t see yours.

    hehe no worries, like i said you explained it much better than i did :)

  • Alianora La Canta15/02/2009 at 23:54

    Yes but that is normal in the world of the story. It would be like the laws of physics applying to the whole universe apart from one shoe which floats up to the ceiling when you take it off. {Comment #199}

    :D Good analogy. Not entirely sure how it prevents my ideas, but somehow I get the sense that it does. Maybe I need to go to bed...

  • Andy Taylor15/02/2009 at 23:54

    Actually, that makes sense. What’s wrong with the laptop?

    It's not a Mac :)

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:56

    Actually, that makes sense. What’s wrong with the laptop?

    it's usual problems ;) plus it's being a bit slow, i've just rebooted and it now seems fine, but it had got to the stage where i was typing and it was taking a while to actually show it on the screen.

  • lou15/02/2009 at 23:57

    It’s not a Mac

    you guys have rubbed off on me... i now want a mac. there i said it. i really really want a mac. the more dad says i can't have one, the more i am convinced it's worth the money. bad times.

  • Andy Taylor15/02/2009 at 23:59

    you guys have rubbed off on me… i now want a mac. there i said it. i really really want a mac. the more dad says i can’t have one, the more i am convinced it’s worth the money. bad times.

    Why can't you have one?

  • Alianora La Canta15/02/2009 at 23:59

    just watching an interesting conversation thread on justin. the guy streaming the nascar is likely to get banned from the network, if he keeps streaming NBA games. {Comment #225}

    wonder bernie has the power to do the same for f1 streams?

    Yes, he does. All copyright owners have the power to prevent their intellectual property from being streamed without permission, and I doubt anyone from Justin.tv has filled in the necessary forms with FOM (read pay Bernie enough money) to legally broadcast. In fact, I think this may have had something to do with everyone's out-of-UK feed of F1 practise going down simultaneously one round last year (I think it was one of the Far Eastern races).

  • Ollie15/02/2009 at 23:59

    you guys have rubbed off on me… i now want a mac. there i said it. i really really want a mac. the more dad says i can’t have one, the more i am convinced it’s worth the money. bad times.

    It's true, you need a Mac. Perhaps bad times financially, but it'll pay off in the end. They last ages...

  • lou16/02/2009 at 00:00

    Why can’t you have one?

    they are expensive.

  • Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)16/02/2009 at 00:01

    they are expensive.

    I want the MacBook Wheel!

  • Steven Roy16/02/2009 at 00:01

    I got my info wrong. Lipitor is for reducing cholesterol not blood pressure.

  • lou16/02/2009 at 00:01

    It’s true, you need a Mac. Perhaps bad times financially, but it’ll pay off in the end. They last ages…

    i know., but with the very very high school fees dad pays, a mac is just not an option atm.

  • Andy Taylor16/02/2009 at 00:03

    they are expensive.

    No they're not. They seem expensive, but independent comparisons have put the cost at roughly £50 more than an equivalent machine. Add in Applecare and you've got a machine that will last you 3 years minimum with no further outlay.

  • Steven Roy16/02/2009 at 00:04

    No they’re not. They seem expensive, but independent comparisons have put the cost at roughly £50 more than an equivalent machine. Add in Applecare and you’ve got a machine that will last you 3 years minimum with no further outlay.

    That's fine if you can find the money in the first place.

  • me16/02/2009 at 00:04

    No they’re not. They seem expensive, but independent comparisons have put the cost at roughly £50 more than an equivalent machine. Add in Applecare and you’ve got a machine that will last you 3 years minimum with no further outlay.

    in that case, they're over-spec'ed :)

  • Andy Taylor16/02/2009 at 00:05

    in that case, they’re over-spec’ed

    :D

  • me16/02/2009 at 00:07

    No they’re not. They seem expensive, but independent comparisons have put the cost at roughly £50 more than an equivalent machine. Add in Applecare and you’ve got a machine that will last you 3 years minimum with no further outlay.

    in truth though, apple doesn't have products to cover every price range - no answer to a netbook for example.

    plus, i don't care what survey you've read, the mac mini is over-priced and underpowered. not to mention being desperately in need of a refresh.

    if they updated the damn thing i'd buy a new one... still patiently waiting.

  • Andy Taylor16/02/2009 at 00:09

    if they updated the damn thing i’d buy a new one… still patiently waiting.

    I agree on the market segment stuff and the Mac Mini is long overdue for a refresh. I'm waiting for a new model too.

  • lou16/02/2009 at 00:12

    No they’re not. They seem expensive, but independent comparisons have put the cost at roughly £50 more than an equivalent machine. Add in Applecare and you’ve got a machine that will last you 3 years minimum with no further outlay.

    i don't need convincing. Tell that to my dad ;) although, i see where he is coming from. atm it's much cheaper to just get my laptop fixed and hope it lasts until i go off to uni next year, than it is to try and save up the money to buy one now. I mean when i say expensive school fees, i mean expensive school fees.

  • me16/02/2009 at 00:14

    I agree on the market segment stuff and the Mac Mini is long overdue for a refresh. I’m waiting for a new model too.

    i'm first!

    :)

  • me16/02/2009 at 00:16

    i’m first!

    actually, you're the last person i should have that race with, damn.

  • Andy Taylor16/02/2009 at 00:16

    i’m first!

    Well, you'll probably hear about it before I do.

  • me16/02/2009 at 00:17

    Well, you’ll probably hear about it before I do.

    i've been hearing about it for 12 months :)

  • Andy Taylor16/02/2009 at 00:17

    i’ve been hearing about it for 12 months

    Don't believe anything until it appears on apple.com